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James Fulford writes: John Derbyshire made his now-annual visit to the American Renaissance conference in Burns, TN, held under the protection of the Tennessee Park Police and State Police, which left four antifa arrested.

The conference has been held annually since 1994, but recent years have shown that while never a hate group, the attendees are very much a hated group. It would be difficult to hold these conferences without police protection.

There will be a forthcoming conference report from, and video of John Derbyshire giving it. This is the presentation as written.

Greetings, fellow heretics! Permit me to introduce myself.

My name is John Derbyshire. I was born and raised in England, but have spent most of my life—at this point, actually 51 percent—in the U.S.A.

I am a freelance writer. When I tell someone that, a frequent response is: “That’s nice; but what do you do for a living?” Well, that’s my living, and has been for eighteen years. I haven’t gotten rich, but I haven’t gone hungry, either.

Not that the writing business has worked out as I intended. I started with the aim to be a novelist, using persons and situations from out of my own imagination and experience to make penetrating observations about human nature and the human condition.

As it turned out, far and away my best-selling book has been a nonfiction work about mathematics.

Sixteen years after its publication, I still get a nice royalty check from it twice a year. That’s not bad in the book business. Still, like the slapstick comedian who yearns to play Hamlet, I would rather have been a novelist.

These are the vicissitudes of fate.

— My 2007 Column “An Arctic Alliance” —

Across the years I have also produced a vast mass of fugitive journalism for various outlets—book reviews and opinion pieces. The great majority of that mass has sunk without trace, no doubt deservedly, although I have tried to be diligent about archiving it at my personal website

There have, however, been a handful of pieces that caught the attention of many readers in such a way that I still get asked about them years later. One of those was an column I wrote in October 2007 for New English Review, a web magazine that is the brainchild of a charming and energetic lady here in Tennessee. The title of the piece was “An Arctic Alliance?

This was a throw-away opinion piece that I wrote to meet a deadline. It is not closely argued and contains no very deep analysis. It does, however, offer an idea that I believe is worth airing, and which I have not seen discussed elsewhere. That idea is contained in the title, which I shall now unpack.

First, the word “Arctic.” I divide the human race into Arctics and non-Arctics on paleoanthropological grounds. So Arctics are those present-day races whose remote ancestors inhabited the forests and tundra of northern Eurasia—the whites and the yellows, to a first approximation. In my book We Are Doomed I used the synonym “Ice People.”

In the world today, the Arctics exhibit two characteristics that separate them quite clearly from non-Arctics, or “Sun People.”.

  • Among Arctics the average is much higher, probably over 100, with the mean for East Asians slightly higher than the one for whites.
  • Low fertility. For stable population size you need a mean TFR of 2.1 children per woman. Hardly any Arctic nations have TFR that high.
  • Some are sensationally low (Taiwan 1.13). Practically all nations with higher TFR are non-Arctic. Many are sensationally high (Niger 6.35).

It thus seems that Arctics face a demographic threat, and humanity at large a longer-term dysgenic threat.

My 2007 article suggested that we Arctics—whites and yellows—put our clever heads together and come up with a common strategy against those threats. Hence the word “Alliance” in my title.

— Common Objections —

Across the years I have met with many objections to the idea of an Arctic Alliance. In the rest of this talk I shall cover the commonest of those objections.

  • Objection #1: “Arctics” is absurd.Singapore is majority East Asian [i.e. what I call “Arctic”] but it’s only one degree north of the equator!

And what about Native Americans, whose deep ancestry is Siberian?

So weren’t the Aztecs, Mayans, and Incas all “Arctics”? And therefore likewise their present-day descendants, the Indios and mestizos of Latin America?

My reply: The underlying question here is: Why did some Arctic peoples of the remote past evolve into modern races with high mean IQ and low mean fertility, even while (much) later spreading into the Tropical zone, while others evolved differently?

Answer: I don’t know. I have, however, read enough about human origins, history, and population genetics to be unsurprised at this outcome. It is not absurd: genetic change of the required magnitude in isolated populations is certainly a possibility across ten thousand years. So is stasis.

But I concede that my usage of “Arctics” is short for “Arctics who have remained stubbornly ‘Arctic’.”

  • Objection #2: Alliance or union? Are you suggesting that we subsume our nationhood in some kind of EU-style union with Russians and East Asians?

My reply: I am a strong nationalist. The sovereign nation-state, with a settled, ethnically-stable population, minding its own affairs under its own historically-evolved folkways, is my preferred form of highest-level political organization.

I hope only for common awareness among Ice People nations of the impending threat, and some common strategy in dealing with it without compromising our national sovereignties in any supranational union.

  • Objection #3: Projection. Some unkind people have scoffed that I was merely projecting my own domestic circumstances onto the world at large. (I am married to a Chinese lady.)

My reply: Possibly I was, but the Arctic Alliance may none the less be worth considering.

Stopped clocks occasionally show the right time. George Orwell remarked that some things are true even though the Party says they are true. Similarly, some ideas are worth considering even though the person who offers them for consideration is working from personal motives.

Tell me why there are no such threats as I have described, and why the Arctic Alliance is not worth considering on its own merits.

  • Objection #4: The long 20th century. My column noted that all the great existential military conflicts of the industrial age, from Napoleon’s wars to the Cold War, were fought between Arctic nations.

I seemed to assume that that era is over; that a new age has dawned in which an Arctic Alliance is possible.

Yet in fact the national passions and rivalries that generated those wars are very much alive. Ask a Chinese person for an opinion of Japan. Ask a Russian for an opinion of America (or an American neocon about Russia). Ask a North Koreananything.

The age of intra-Arctic conflict has not ended. We are still, as it were, in the 20th century, just as people in the years 1900-1914 were still in the 19th century—as historians say, “the long 19th century.”

My reply: (See my reply to the next item.)

Closely related to that point are a group of criticisms I put under the heading:

  • Objection #5: The narcissism of minor differences.[15] Similarity on genetic or paleoanthropological grounds is no guarantee of harmony, nor even of the ability to work together for common goals.

If you had lived in Belfast in 1972 you would have noticed that the white Irish Protestants and white Irish Catholics of that city had much stronger group feelings directed against each other than either had towards blacks or Muslims.

Charles Darwin in On the Origin of Species, Chapter IV:

[I]t is the most closely-allied forms,—varieties of the same species, and species of the same genus or of related genera,—which, from having nearly the same structure, constitution, and habits, generally come into the severest competition with each other; consequently, each new variety or species, during the progress of its formation, will generally press hardest on its nearest kindred, and tend to exterminate them.

Sigmund Freud remarked on a similar phenomenon in Civilization and Its Discontents. He called it “the narcissism of minor differences.”

I have enlisted this principle in my own writings about America’s current ideological conflict, calling that conflict “the Cold Civil War”—two big groups of white people who can’t stand t he sight of each other, with other races sometimes pulled in as auxiliaries to feed the horses and dig field latrines.

If you engage in today’s ideological conflict you quickly notice that American whites care passionately what other whites think and say; but no white person cares what blacks, Indios, or Asians think. They are hors de combat.

So why should not intra-Arctic tensions and animosities prove stronger than common interests in defending against Sun People?

My reply: They might. History suggests that uniting against a common peril does not come easily to human beings. It is most likely to come when the peril is obvious, urgent, and existential.

OK; but if boatloads of black Africans in the Mediterranean and “caravans” of Indios swarming our southern border don’t rouse Arctics to thoughts of common defense, what might?

Well, even bigger numbers—much bigger numbers—might. Those numbers are coming.

Or disease might. Back in January 2018, after President Trump was revealed to have used a low scatological expression when referring privately to certain countries, I did some research on sanitary conditions worldwide, and reported on those researches in my weekly podcast.

At a listener’s suggestion, I then read Rose George’s recent book The Big Necessity: The Unmentionable World of Human Waste and Why It Matters.

Suffice it to say that I hope I never have to go to India for any reason.

Compounding the issue is the fact that in Sun People countries that are not desperately poor—India again leads the way here—over-use of strong antibiotics is rampant. This of course accelerates the evolution of antibiotic-resistant pathogens.

So a sudden, major, unifying threat from Sun People nations may be not demographic but epidemiological.

  • Objection #6: The Polar Alliance. I have had emails from, and two or three personal encounters with, persons from the Antipodes saying, “What about us?”

Should not Australia, New Zealand, and the white countries of the southern South American “cone”—Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay—be included in the Alliance? They face the same issues as ourselves, notably the threat of mass Sun People immigration.

My reply: Paleoanthropologically speaking, these southern hemisphere peoples are still Arctics, not Antarctics. However, for public relations purposes, I might consider soothing their feelings by renaming my concept to “the Polar Alliance.”

(My first thought was “the Bipolar Alliance.” Then I realized what unpleasantly clinical connotations that has …)

(And the list of our southern-hemisphere brethren should of course include white South Africans, at least for a while longer.)

  • Objection #7: The white race is too far gone in ethnomasochism. While East Asians (China, Japan, Korea, Mongolia) have remained demographically conservative, white Arctics have sold the demographic pass, recklessly importing great masses of Sun People into their homelands.

This process has gone too far now to be reversible.

Why should East Asians yoke themselves in an alliance with whites, who are clearly a loser race with a collective death wish?

My reply: Why indeed? But this is a counsel of despair. Movements like ours exist in the hope of reversing the ethnomasochistic trend. Dum spiramus, speramus.

(If you need a boost to your speramus, be sure to attend Jared’s talk this afternoon. Title: “Why We are Winning.”)

And while that point is a depressing one, it is not the most depressing response I have received. Here is the real wrist-slitter:

  • Objection #8: Ethnomasochism is an inevitable development in ANY post-industrial society.[26] There is nothing exclusively white about ethnomasochism. East Asians just aren’t there yet. We Arctics are all headed into multiculturalism.

My reply: Yes, there are periodic news stories [27, 28] about Japan loosening up on immigration. On the other hand, the rules remain strict and selective.

On the other other hand, there are now more than 200 mosques in Japan, up from just two in 1970.

[29] And there is a big colony of black Africans in Guangzhou, South China’s megacity. Their numbers have been declining the past five years, it’s true; but the decline has been driven more by economic and public-health issues than by Chinese ethnocentrism. Most of the Africans are merchants whose fortunes depend on movements in the commodities markets, and recent movements have been all against them. Further, the SARS epidemic of the early 2000s badly spooked the Chinese government, so that when Ebola hit the international headlines in 2014, they clamped down hard on African immigration.

So: Are these things—loosening of Japanese immigration, African settlement in China—minor circumstantial aberrations, or straws in the multicultural wind?

I don’t know. East Asian ethnocentrism looks pretty robust to me; but then, I am old enough to remember when British ethnocentrism looked robust.

Could East Asians succumb to multiculturalism? I wouldn’t say it’s impossible. Will they? I don’t know.

2010-12-24dl[1]John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him.) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT(also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

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  1. MEH 0910 says:

    • Replies: @denk
  2. anon[889] • Disclaimer says:

    No mention of amplified global warming in the Arctic, even though the Chinese are already prepped to invade, with the government deeming themselves a “near-Arctic” state and “an important stakeholder in Arctic affairs” (Radio Canada Int’l, 2019) and sending their submarines to patrol the “Polar Silk Road” (Xinhua, 2019) that is opening as Arctic Sea ice spirals to its demise.

    Temperatures have increased about twice as fast in the Arctic as in the mid-latitudes, a phenomenon known as “Arctic amplification.”

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Alfred
  3. Historian in 2525 CE: “They were a curious race: They dominated the globe and oppressed and enslaved all who were not like them, and then in a matter of less than a century they didn’t just decline and fall, they instead seemed to will themselves as a people to die.”

  4. Could East Asians succumb to multiculturalism? I wouldn’t say it’s impossible. Will they? I don’t know.

    If the white race would ever get its act together, we cannot rule out the idea that this might have an inspirational effect on the oriental races.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Corvinus
  5. Dr. X says:

    I would tend to think that Objection #7 is the most important at this time… given the fact that four white antifa were arrested protesting Derb.

    Hardly “Arctic allies” despite sharing much of his DNA….

  6. John

    The ANTIFA are effectively the DEATH SQUADS of the MEGA-CEO…….

    Heather Hyer came to Charlottesville to MURDER the Men of the Alt Right 0n behalf of MEGA-CEOS……..

    Like all ANTIFA…Heather Hyer was disgusting filthy fucking cockroach unworthy of any sympathy….a filthy fucking 300 pound cockroach………

    I’m gonna buy Goro Shimura’s autobiography “Map of my Life…….”….if you know a little bit about complex multiplication(almost an interger….)…go google the Hilbert quote about complex multiplication……

    The ANTIFA are almost filthy fucking cockroaches….actually that’s a false statement …..the is the actual scientific fact ANTIFA=FILTHY FUCKING COCKROACHES……

  7. Low East Asian birthrates tend to support the idea that East Asians are not actually any more committed to “preserving the race” than whites. East Asian are not vocally ethnomasochistic but despite a lot of government propaganda, you won’t find as much optimism among Japanese or even Chinese as you would have found in Victorian England or the Kaiserreich, not to mention Gilded Age USA. A common theme among successful Chinese in the PRC is their desire to emigrate at the earliest opportunity.

    Material abundance seems to make human beings more self-centered and narcissistic. High IQ people are possibly even more susceptible to this trap – they are able to take great pleasure in the intellectual challenges of a career, research, life-long learning, etc. and the mundanity of raising children seems undesirable.

  8. @War for Blair Mountain


    True story…..

    I took linear algebra two…advanced topics….undergrad….with one of Shimura’s friends…comrades… from Japan…..And this Guy was a crazy very old Jap bastard….but a really good guy…the black board went around the classroom…if a chair got in his way….he would just toss it out of the way….then he continued writing on the blackboard….”sero….sero….sero…sero….sero….sero…sero.”…translation into English:zero…zero….zero….zero…zero…zero(sparse matrices)….interspersed with stories of working in an aircraft engine factory during the WAR….ZERO….ZERO….ZERO…. with Shimura and Tanniyama……followed by:”I was really glad when the war ended…”….back to tossing chairs around that got in his way…..One day he exclaimed:”Complex Multiplication….the deepest and most profound idea in mathematics”….at the time I didn’t know he was quoting Hilbert….

  9. @Peter Akuleyev


    Everything you say is true but on a MICRO level the difference between an African country with 6 kids per couple and Japan with 0.1 are evident in the US…

    …A black or poor rural trailer park white or Mexican woman has 5 kids. One daughter becomes a slut and single mother. Another child becomes a hopeless junkie and if female a prostitute and if male a petty criminal or dealer and this child spends their life in jail. One son gets into gang violence and ends up in jail. Another son manages to stay off drugs and out of gangs but has little hope and simply becomes an alcoholic who is marginally employed who simply does nothing. One of the five joins the military, becomes a police officer and escapes his poor background.

    The Asian-American or WASP or Jew has two children. Both are raised in relative luxury, go to fine schools, graduate from university and become white-collar high earners.

    So that is the difference.

  10. @The Alarmist

    Yes, I’ve often wondered what future historians will think of these times. It all seems impossibly absurd. They will have a difficult time believing that it really happened in the way that it is. I do, and I’m going through it.

    Let’s also not forget that they will marvel that a miniscule tribe of people managed to control much of the commanding heights of power in the United States and Europe to point of dictating the foreign policy of the most powerful country in the Middle East. That’s impressive.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Sin City Milla
  11. John

    The over-arching fundamental framework:

    The Democratic Party….And this includes the Democratic Party Voting Bloc….is saying this openly in 2019:”

















    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
  12. Truth says:

    Why should East Asians yoke themselves in an alliance with whites, who are clearly a loser race with a collective death wish?

    Sending out the Tillie signal, Tillie…Gotham City needs you now…

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  13. anon[889] • Disclaimer says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Yes, a miniscule tribe of people managed to control much of the commanding heights of power, via the Holy Hook.

  14. Definition of fungible:

    Andrew Yang’s 1,000 a month stipend for NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN WORKING CLASS MALES consenting to a monumental increase in the scale of the H1B…L1B…VISA PROGRAM=OPIODS……….

    Andrew Yang……WHITE GENOCIDE….

    And Brad Griffith is onboard with this….what a fucking piece of shit down there in Alabama….

    • Replies: @anon
  15. anon[889] • Disclaimer says:

    • Trump Administration: 7°F global average temp increase by 2100 (double that for the Arctic people, likely 14°F, if Arctic Amplification rate remains)
    • Trump Administration: “Steady reductions in sea ice.”

    Q. So what happens when the Arctic environment becomes for favorable for the Sun people invasion?

    A. Trump Administration: “an arena for power and for competition.

    Ice people are whistling past the old-ice graveyard. As goes the Arctic ice, so goes the Arctic Alliance.

  16. anon[889] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist

    “They evaporated large percentages of earth’s oil fields and coal beds into the atmosphere, assuming there would be zero consequences for such action, just so they could sit long hours in traffic jams while old people in walkers zoomed by, and called it progress. Any who questioned such progress were dismissed as crazy.”

    Cars are slower than walking…

    The model American male devotes more than 1600 hours a year to his car. He sits in it while it goes and while it stands idling. He parks it and searches for it. He earns the money to put down on it and to meet the monthly installments. He works to pay for gasoline, tolls, insurance, taxes, and tickets. He spends four of his sixteen waking hours on the road or gathering his resources for it. And this figure does not take into account the time consumed by other activities dictated by transport: time spent in hospitals, traffic courts, and garages; time spent watching automobile commercials or attending consumer education meetings to improve the quality of the next buy. The model American puts in 1600 hours to get 7500 miles: less than five miles per hour.

    • Replies: @Western
  17. anon[889] • Disclaimer says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    You sound like you’re allied with Extinction Rebellion (XR,) a socio-political movement which protests against extinction. Or genocide, as you will. The walls are closing in, time is almost up. It feels like the end times are at hand. Think we’ll make it as either a race or species?

  18. Mark G. says:

    In the U.S. could an Arctic alliance lead to Asians and whites forming a political coalition and what changes in the Republican party would be needed for that to happen? Steve Sailer has suggested branding the Democrat party as the black people party and that might help drive Asians out of the Democrat coalition. As far as political issues, affirmative action seems an obvious choice for whites and Asians to unite on since it hurts both groups. Cracking down on crime would appeal to both groups since most crime is committed by blacks. Blacks also receive disproportionate amounts of welfare so cutting welfare would be something whites and Asians could agree on. On immigration, they could both agree that immigration needs to be reduced overall but also directed more to northern Asians and less towards other nonwhites. Northern Asians, with their low birthrates, probably won’t be moving in large numbers to the U.S. anyway. On foreign policy, the U.S. would want to have a less hostile policy towards Asia. What issues would the Republican party need to deemphasize to attract Asians? From the Asians I’ve talked to, the aggressively Christian fundamentalist types who try to convert them or make fun of their religious beliefs are a problem for them. Most people don’t like to be pressured to change their religious beliefs or have their current religious beliefs denigrated and Asians aren’t an exception. Most Asians also have problems with the racist type of white person who uses anti-Asian racial slurs. So, overall, the Republicans would need to move away from being the Christian fundamentalist racist white people party and be the pro-law and order and anti-welfare middle class party instead.

    • Agree: Endgame Napoleon
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Lars
  19. anon[889] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark G.

    Republican need to de-jew Jewsus and make him Buddha, since that’s so easy to do. The de-jewing itself would be helpful for foreign policy. Although White Republicans would then have to raise their own money. My sweet lord!

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  20. Potato queens love Arctic Alliances:

    Q: What is a potato queen?
    A: A potato queen is actually a gay Asian male who will only date white guys. So that’s me and I’m a big one actually.
    Q: What is it about white men in particular that you think is so incredible?
    A: I believe that the white race is a superior one and I love being with a white guy primarily because of that, and also because he’s got a powerful big cock that I love. Once you go white, nothing else seems right.

    Video (0:31) here.

    • Replies: @anon
  21. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:

    I really don’t like the calling of third world people “sun people”, this implies that there is something nice and desirable about them. A better name would be dark people, darkness is what they bring to every white country they immigrate to.

  22. POST-1965 RACE-REPLACEMENT IMMIGRATION POLICY is driven by the monumental vaulting GREED of the Chamber of Commerce……..


    And this is why Tom Donohue stated today that he wants to flood US Labor Markets with millions of nonwhite SCAB WORKERS every year…..just like CHINA HAN SUPREMACIST Andrew Yang…..


    • Replies: @Endgame Napoleon
  23. al anon says:
    @The Alarmist

    Ethnic collapse aside Derb, I was pleased to see from the mugshots that you got a couple in on the bogtrotters, a right and left to Obrian and a straight to Kelleys proboscis.

  24. Anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Yellows are too much like the Jews, dishonest, pushy, loud, rude, money hungry. Of course it could be worse, they could also be loquacious, narcissistic, vengeful, punitive and power hungry like the Jews.

    My point is, we don’t want no stinking alliance with these yellow people.

    All white nations have to do is expel the parasitic fifth columnists among us -the tribe, the neocons and the filthy globalists. Then and only then can whites once again thrive.

    • Replies: @SafeNow
    , @Corvinus
  25. al anon says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    remember the words of Josef Goebbels ” the best Nazis are ex-communists”

    • Replies: @Quartermaster
  26. @Truth

    Here I am Truth. I will now respond to loony tunes Derbyshire. Just when I think he’s hit rock bottom, he always manages to come up with something even more insane. Here’s the other sentence that is worth analyzing: “Could East Asians succumb to multiculturalism? I wouldn’t say it’s impossible. Will they? I don’t know.” His Chinese wife and daughter have succumbed to multiculturalism. They voted for Obummer!!!

    Derbyshire has a death wish. He yoked himself to a Chinese communist in an alliance that has produced anti-white Chinese offspring. He clearly hates loser whites, yet he remains in the West, surrounding himself as much as possible with loser whites. His Chinese family hates loser whites. As I have constantly told him, if he doesn’t like loser whites, he and his family can move to China, where they will be surrounded by “winner” Asians.

    This is his annual AmRen schtick. Notice how he doesn’t mention his Chinese family. A first time reader would be puzzled why he would write such an article. Always cherchez la femme/le homme/la famille of a person, then you will understand his beliefs.

    Then, the topic, an Artic Alliance, is pure nonsense. The Japanese are the only intelligent Asians. They hate the Chinese and consider them inferiors, along with all other Asians. The Japanese are correct in this belief. Also, the different Asian ethnicities hate one another, i.e., the Chinese and Vietnamese hate each other. The Koreans hate the Japanese. That a soon to be 74 year old man, supposedly well-read, would believe in such a ludicrous fantasy, is mind-boggling!!!

    They mentioned the arrest of four Antifa protesters. This attack was staged. AmRen is controlled opposition v. Antifa controlled opposition. For some real political action, check-out what happened to Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage in England.

    • Replies: @Liza
    , @bored identity
  27. “So a sudden, major, unifying threat from Sun People nations may be not demographic but epidemiological.”

    Bank on it.

    Sanitation, medical preparedness, and medical responses will make the difference when the plagues take hold.

    As far as attitudes are concerned, the world will go through a major “attitude adjustment” when the credit bubble bursts. Our modern order is is able to support a far greater population because of an expanding “prosperity” that depends on expanding credit. When economic “growth” suddenly flips to contraction people are going to start asking age-old questions about unproductive masses, and the answers will not be pleasant.

    An alliance between “ice people” is about as likely as an alliance between two bulls in a single pasture, but a common indifference to the deaths of the unfortunate is probable.

    To echo your own words, Derb, it will be “Sauve qui peut”.

  28. @jeff stryker

    Once again you are not an American or simply are out of date and out of touch with current America, which is understandable if you’ve been gone a long time and don’t return to visit.

    White Americans living in trailer parks, or low-income whites generally, certainly do not have an average of five children per woman/couple.

    • Replies: @Republic
  29. @another fred

    The Asians are comming to America to 1)enthusiastically vote THE HISTORIC NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN WORKING CLASS MAJORITY into a violently persecuted White Racial Minority within the borders of America……2)to STEAL NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN LIVING AND BREEDING SPACE!!!………This is the Arctic Alliance……

    There are no reasons why THE HISTORIC NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN WORKING CLASS MAJORITY should put up with this….tolerate this……for even a second………

  30. Using Leonard Jeffries’ terms “Ice People” and “Sun People” is a nice twist. Even a field as unpromising as Black Studies sometimes produces a useful idea.

    … “the Cold Civil War” — two big groups of white people who can’t stand the sight of each other, with other races sometimes pulled in as auxiliaries to feed the horses and dig field latrines.

    If you engage in today’s ideological conflict you quickly notice that American whites care passionately what other whites think and say; but no white person cares what blacks, Indios, or Asians think. They are hors de combat.

    In another thread, someone suggested that:

    Most of politics takes the form of white gentiles taking sides in arguments between Jewish intellectuals.

    The two viewpoints are not incompatible.

    Objection #7: The white race is too far gone in ethnomasochism.

    This is probably true in the English-speaking countries and most of the EU.

    In 1937 Winston Churchill said:

    I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place.

    To modern ears, this is shocking, and is the “dark side” of ethnocentrism.

    But make no mistake – there are still people today who think this way, and some of them are Salafists who favour the “Great Replacement” of morally inferior people in the developed world by the stronger, higher-grade, more worldly-wise races who follow Islam.

    It is strange that many white people think that colonialism was an absolute wrong … unless we are the ones being colonised, in which case it becomes not only right, but desirable! Our biggest argument is indeed with the large group of white people who cannot stand the sight of us.

  31. President Kushner’s latest immigration bill should be called the maximum Indian importation bill. Since this parasitic tribe is like the Jews who are greedy, dishonest, clannish, loquacious and power hungry, we can look forward to more totally brainwashed Indian idiots like Pramila Jayapal, Kamala Harris or Israel Firster Nikki Haley running for office.

    As for the Arctic alliance, the answer is no. Hell no. The yellows may have high IQ, but they are a completely immoral tribe. In all east asian societies like China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, HK, there is a huge black market run by the Triads, Yakuza or Jopok that basically legally operate all the prostitution, drugs, gambling, currency counterfeiting and all other illicit activities. Their governments are either in cahoots with the crime bosses or turn a blind eye to “save face”, make the country look peaceful and crime free in public. China is unbelievably corrupt. Every single mainland Chinese who emigrated is corrupt, either by taking massive bribes or giving them. The honest ones are ripped off 9 ways to Sunday and can’t afford to leave.

    Instead of an alliance, the west would do well to do a mass expulsion of all non-whites out of white countries, that includes the Jews.

  32. @Tired of Not Winning

    Hindu “Americans” are a highly RACIALIZED hostile Democratic Party Voting Bloc…..

    The Hindu “American” never should have been imported onto NATIVE BORN WHITE WORKING CLASS AMERICAN LIVING AND BREEDING SPACE!!!

    The Hindu “American” was imported into OUR AMERICA as a direct consequence of the passage of the 1964 CIVIL RIGHTS ACT for the Negro……

    After the Civil War…the Negro should have been deported back to fucking Africa……

    Donald Trump is a gd filthy fucking cockroach who is using Family Members of mine in the US Army as canon fodder for JEW-ONLY ISRAEL in the Middle East….

  33. @War for Blair Mountain

    Time for your family members to leave the military. The US military is now the front line for Israel. They fight only for the glory of Israel. Time to stop being suckers.

    Trump talked of treason in the FBI for investigating him, his own cabinet, Pence-Pompeo-Bolton-Kushner, is committing high treason against the United States for what they are doing on foreign policy and immigration.

    Hindus are the chest thumping bullshit artists of the East. Only dumb politicians in the US think they are “best and brightest” and can’t give them enough H1b’s and green cards, thanks to globalist rats like Bill Gates who can’t import enough of them. Just look at India for Pete’s sake, if Indians are so smart, why is their own country such a total shithole? 650m still defecate out in the open, garbage strewn everywhere, the whole country smells like cow dung. But now they’re here to tell us how to run our country, so they can turn us into another shithole like India.

  34. Travis says:
    @The Alarmist

    hard to believe we will have historians past the year 2200 if white birth rates keep falling.

    The US census estimates the number of white people in America will decline from the current 197 million to 181 Million by 2050 when the US population is expected to be 400 million. By 2100 the white population will be just 33% of the United States and falling. Whites may be 10% of the population in 2200

    CDC data `—- 1988 — 2018
    White births* – 3.1 M – 1.9 M
    Non-White —- 0.8 M — 1.9 M

    Decade__White Births*
    60’s ——– 35 Million
    70s ——– 25 Million
    80s ——— 24 Million
    90s ——— 23 Million
    00’s——— 22 Million
    10’s———-20 Million

    *Based on race of the mother, 5% will have a Black father.

  35. Imagine…..if…the 1965 Immigration Reform Act had not been passed…


    Today…..2019….America=90 percent NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN MAJORITY…….No Attorney General Preet Bharrara in 2021…..9/11 never happens….no Chinese giant snakehead fish in the riparian ecosystems of the bucolic Shenandoah Valley….OH SHENANDOAH… know this tune…



    • Replies: @homahr
  36. @Tired of Not Winning

    New exotic life forms evolving in India’s giant river of shit……..Alex Jones says it’s ok to import this giant river of shit into America….as long as it comes in LEGALLY AND PAYS ITS TAXES….

    • Replies: @Travis
  37. SafeNow says:

    “pushy, loud, rude….”

    An excellent string of character-describing words. However, for the sake of even greater completeness, I will submit the following, from Philip Roth: Contentiousness, dissension, alienation, hypertouchiness, hypercriticalness, mistrust, clowning, self-satire, cringing, nervousness, and inwardness.

  38. Mactoul says:

    Arctics have not remained Arctics. The low TFR of the modern Arctic nations is a modern anomaly itself, relating to the collective death wish of Arctics.
    Merely a hundred years ago, the TFR of the Arctics was at par with the non-Arctics, leaving aside France, the Arctic leader in death wish,

  39. @anonymous

    Perhaps we should use the term “jungle people” in stead of “sun people”. For “arctic people” we could use the term “steppe people”. After all it is not likely the Caucasian and Mongolic races developed in the far north arctic region. The steppes of Eurasia are more likely.

    • Replies: @Tired of Not Winning
  40. Before you can do something you always have to do something else. In this case you first need an alliance against the Anglo/Zionist Empire. The Russian, Persian, Chinese alliance is a good start. The EU the Commonwealth the US and Japan could join them instead of fighting them. The Ice People would be united at last. This would be best possible outcome for the Sun People.

    If humans were intelligent they would be enjoying peace and prosperity.

  41. anon[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @another fred

    When the plagues take hold? That sounds alarmist.

    Insect vectors tend to be more active at higher temperatures.

    Global Climate Change and Infectious Diseases
    New England Journal of Medicine

    Maybe the Trump Administration’s policy of “I fucking love global warming” is an optimistic interpretation of the consequences of Arctic Amplification on the Arctic-centric Ice Peoples of the Nord.

  42. I admire Mr. Derbyshire and often find many kernels of insight that merit closer examination. However, his many years living in the U. S. have not been salubrious to his sense of reason, for he has an unfortunate and typically American penchant for simplifying complex issues into catchy, but meaningless blurbs. “Ice peoples”, “Arctic coalition”—all this sounds like so much blather that could sound thoughtful only to another person with a similarly cartoonish grasp of history.

    Take his view of East Asia. Has he actually observed how life there truly is in person? Multiculturalism, feminism, sexual deviancy, national/ethnic self-hating, etc. are already already thriving there (perhaps less so in the P. R. C., at least for now). All thanks to the widespread acceptance of exogamy that has been inculcated into Japanese, Korean, and Chinese women since 1945. White men are perceived as being even more desirable than their ethnic male peers, becoming sought after trophies. Knowing the sexual capital that they enjoy there, white men venture into these countries in ever greater numbers, carrying with them as a parasite does a virus the various decadent ideologies that are the cause of their home countries’ declines, thereby infecting their host nations.

    Then there is his notion of a pan-Asian “alliance”, which given the profound enmity that exists between East and Sotutheast Asian nations, is so utterly laughable as to not merit any further explanation.

    Mr. Derbyshire, as is common among many of the dissident right’s belletrists, spends a fair amount of time trumpeting the high I. Q. of “Arctic peoples”, especially those of whites. But what would be the point of a pan-white alliance of “Arktisches völker” when it is precisely that demographic that is flushing Western civilization down the proverbial toilet? Say whatever you want about the “Sun peoples”—and goodness knows the last thing I want is to see a flood of Somalians upon my doorstep—but they are not the ones who devise and perpetuate the self-destructive ideologies that are imperiling civilization. If you are angry at the great masses of the swarthy unwashed crashing upon the shores of the West, then set your sights upon the high I. Q. white people who wave them in, refuse to enforce immigtation laws, and then indoctrinate the new arrivals to boot.

  43. anon[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny Rottenborough

    I heard a song on the radio about this by Billy Ocean, kind of an oldie, I used to think it said Caribou Queen, maybe about Sarah Palin, but listen real close, and you’ll hear, “Po-Tay-To queen, now we’re sharing the same dream, and our hearts they beat as one, no more love on the run.” Although I’m kind of nostalgic for Caribou Queen, she’s an Arctic Alliance hottie who keeps track of Siberia from her house. But she didn’t get elected, and now we’ve got President Potato and MIGA.

  44. anon[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    > Donald Trump…JEW-ONLY ISRAEL

    Donald is kind of like Jewsus, very Israel Only.

  45. swamped says:

    “My 2007 article suggested that we Arctics—whites and yellows—put our clever heads together and come up with a common strategy against those threats. Hence the word ‘Alliance’ in my title”…for what? To wage war against the “Sun people”? That hasn’t turned out too well lately. Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, etc., the Sun people aren’t so easily shocked & awed anymore by Alliances of the Willing. And the Arctics don’t know how to remake those societies for the natives anyway. See how it goes next up in Iran, that could be the final debacle in the Alliance war tragicomedy.
    The “Sun people” in this reckoning only consist of Africa, the Indian subcontinent & parts of Latin America & the Middle East so it’s mainly just to guard against these festering cesspools anyway. And if plunging in is no longer feasible then the other option is to wall them out. Building walls has become popular in many places but still not very practical. The Sun people may be squeezed into a much smaller territory but building a wall around it would still have about as much chance as packing them all onto space ships & sending them home to the Sun. So it’s full circle back to being “a novelist, using persons and situations from out of my own imagination and experience to make penetrating observations about human nature and the human condition.” But it has no tangible value.

  46. @War for Blair Mountain

    It is true that the COC or the Cheap Labor Lobby (CLL) is the force behind the welfare-aided Third World immigration tsunami that has driven wages down for blue-collar males for 40 years. The wage degradation and displacement of male citizens spans multiple, male-dominated industries that provided a household-supporting living in past eras.

    This situation has undermined independent household and family formation, with so-called family-values Republicans not doing one red thing about it even during the Trump Administration. Many white males are still held to high social standards. They receive harsh criticism for not having a job that supports a household on earned-only income.

    But the biggest forces keeping wages down for most American females—a group still primarily working in female-dominated fields—is the decent-job concentration made possible by assortative mating and the crony-parent job network at the top of the wage scale and, at the bottom, the wage-suppressing industry of welfare-assisted single montherhood.

    All single-breadwinner moms have to do is work part time, keeping their income under the welfare programs’ earned-income limits. Then they get free or reduced-cost rent, free groceries, monthly cash assistance, free electricity and up to $6,431 in refundable child tax credit cash. They can also work temp jobs, dropping the welfare during months when their income goes over the programs’ limits.

    Who needs a husband? Who needs a full-time job with wages sufficient to cover rent when .gov covers your major household bills for womb-productive sex in a single-breadwinner household, adding a huge, yearly, tax-time cash treat up to $6,431 to spend on Florida beachfront hotels with a boyfriend? Who needs higher wages? Who needs to jump through the hoops to get a bachelor’s degree or “legally required” licenses? Not single mommas. Lower wages are financially advantageous to them, and employers seek applicants who “have somethin’ comin in.”

    Although they aren’t welfare dependent, the same downward pressure on wages occurs when married moms add keeping-up-with-the-Jones’ income to an ample, household-supporting spousal income, accepting libertine absenteeism privileges (for moms) as a consolation for pay that won’t cover rent. These moms bound out the door of the office, leaving phones ringing off the hook with paying customers, but keep jobs due to crony-mom managers doing the same thing.

    This is what single, childless women and single moms with kids over 18 require: wages that cover rent. They are not welfare-eligible and must survive on earned-only income, but in the words of a mom manager in of one of the many, many, many, low-wage, family-friendly, absenteeism-friendly, “voted-best-for-moms” office jobs in my state: “It’s just not out there,” i.e. a job with wages sufficient to cover rent.

    It’s not out there because of moms who don’t need to make more.

    In the world of male-dominated blue-collar jobs, wage depression is because of Third World immigrants gaming the welfare system via a male breadwinner’s traceable income that falls under the earned-income limits for welfare programs, US-born kids’ SS cards and proof of household expenses. Since the welfare increases per kid produced, “sunny” immigrants often get the max of everything due to their prolific womb productivity.

    In the office job world, wage stagnation it is due to women with unearned income related to womb productivity (spousal income, rent-covering child support or welfare and refundable child tax credits) who can afford to work for a pittance in part-time or temp jobs.

    But it’s not just immigration and hypocritical, womb-privileged hiring & retention. The tolerance for frequent and lengthy periods of crony-parent absenteeism is tool-related, as is wage stagnation. If computers had not advanced as much, moms would be needed more at work, overriding the clubby womb privilege and making their jobs vulnerable. Degrees and certifications would have held their value more, too.

    For the majority of office positons, employers often hire moms who lack a degree or other certifications due to advanced software that does more and more of their work, whereas degree holders were often necessary for office jobs in past eras since the calculations were performed by hand.

    Advanced software also facilitates the crony-parent absenteeism culture in many higher paying industries, like the ones inhabited by above-firing, dual-high-earner parents, keeping two household-supporting jobs concentrated under one roof. Dual-high-earner households halve the size of the college-educated middle class. Low-wage daycare workers, elderly grandparents or NannyCam-surveilled babysitters at $9 per hour raise their kids for them. The highly paid parents take off days, mornings, afternoons and weeks, in addition to PTO and pregnancy leave, due to software that performs more of the high level work, too.

    The laxness is also due to “needs-the-job” crony-parent hiring and retention.

    With this two-pronged Crony Dual High Earner / Welfare Rigged Single-Breadwinner system intact, it is unlikely that the US middle class will expand any more than the birthrate among people raised in middle and upper-middle-class households. Because, there is still a strong social expectation to have an independent household before the womb-productive sex.

    When parents are above firing no matter how much work they miss, the few decent-paying, household-supporting jobs never open up, and wages at the bottom are frozen by welfare rigging.

    Both parties are dismissing the group of childless likely voters over 40 who are quite a long way from the time when a retirement check will supplement low, earned income. Childless citizens constitute 28% of America’s voters, albeit many are married or retirement-aged, with multiple household income streams reducing the brutality of the welfare-rigged labor market.

    But I bet the number of childless Americans who are single and under 65 at least equals (if not exceeds) the number of Black male voters, Asian voters and other under-10% groups that Republicans are trying to use as a way to win the needed 1% victory margin.

    Donald J. Trump gave one more non-refundable child tax credit hike to dual-earner parents who have two income streams to cover housing and other wildly inflating expenses. He gave the single citizens living on earned-only income a kick-in-the-teeth tax cut that won’t even cover one minor bill.

    The Republican Party used to be the pro-hard-work, anti-welfare party of individuals, not just wealthy individuals, and the party of traditional family values. Now, it has accepted the Neoliberal definition of an often welfare-aided “working family,” consisting of a single-breadwinner mom who can afford to work the low-wage churn jobs that Bill Clinton called “the jobs of the future” due to her unearned-income streams from Uncle Sam.

    Fearing to alienate the binders-full-of-women vote, Republicans have also embraced the Womb Focused Fake Feminism that demands tons of workplace privileges to accommodate parenthood. They demand it even at the tippy top of the labor-market ladder, where people are supposed to make sacrifices for higher pay and prestige.

    They demand it, and the Uniparty obeys with no resistance.

    Even when she doesn’t meet the quotas, a mom’s frequent absenteeism should not (and does not) lead to firing. It couldn’t be less merit-based…..Merit, please….The merit issue is being sculpted only to appeal to voters in certain racial contexts.

  47. Alfred says:

    Climate is cyclical. It does not move in straight lines. The glaciers are coming back in Greenland. Let’s not forget that the ice in Greenland is on land. In the Arctic it is floating and subject to melting from below. Floating ice is at the mercy of the currents of the oceans and the air temperature has almost no effect.

    Inconvenient: NASA says a Greenland glacier did an about-face – growing again

    The winter wheat of the midwest of the USA is doomed. Farmers cannot plant in large areas due to unseasonably cold weather and flooding. Lots of farmers are going bankrupt in consequence. Just wait and see what will happen to the price of food over the next few years!

    Failure to Plant Crops

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Biff
  48. anon[420] • Disclaimer says:

    Nice try, but your climate is cyclical is the #1 denialist myth that gets debunked at Just click on the #1 myth at the index on the left side panel. A single glacier pausing its rapid melt doesn’t mean what you’re trying twist it into meaning. Greenland’s ice is rapidly melting, and increasing the speed of its melt, for one reason: global warming is real. This year’s wet cold spring in the continental US (mind you, only 2% of the globe’s surface) is a perfect example of “warm Arctic, cold continents” weather trends caused by a weakened polar vortex, wonky jet-stream, and blocking high ridge. Look it up, if you want to learn, and if you don’t want to be the retard Left Behind when the Conservative “We fucking love global warming” train chugs away.

    • Agree: Lockean Proviso
  49. Biff says:

    What are you getting paid?

  50. @Travis

    There’s always the damned dirty apes to do the history in our brave new world. Calling Charleston Heston!

  51. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    I think you fail to understand the extent to which JD’s Ice People/Arctics are conceived of in genetic terms, that is as people shaped by evolution to have relatively high IQs on average and maybe some other genes favourable to civilisation and the orderly running of prosperous countries.

    Unfortunately educated white Protestants have been reversing their outbreeding of the poor and dim that Gregory Clark identified as prevailing from about the 1400s to the late 1800s for about 140 years and Catholics have been just two or three generations behind. It seems to be irreversible and unstoppable. I find it hard to believe that the societies suffering from such dysgenics are worth trying to prop up as white nations. At least Australia, although committed to trying to provide democracy for a deluded population supported in prosperity and government handouts only because 1 or 2 per cent of the population are doing good business with China or working competently in the businesses, may preserve an adequate cognitive base through the immigration of typically IQ 100+ ethnic Chinese and Indians. Presumably they like what they find in Australia enough to keep it going.

  52. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    “If you are angry at the great masses of the swarthy unwashed crashing upon the shores of the West, then set your sights upon the high I. Q. (((white))) people who wave them in, refuse to enforce immigration laws, and then indoctrinate the new arrivals to boot.”

    There, I fixed it for you.

    I agree, white nations first need to root out the fifth columnists among us if we are to survive.

    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
  53. Over 40% of colleges now have separate commencements for blacks, along with separate “fly-in” orientations, separate living quarters:

    Can we just make the Ivy League 100% black and get it over with?

    • Replies: @anon
  54. @Franklin Ryckaert

    How about just “blacks and browns”? Straight to the point.

    There are always exceptions, but in general, the darker the pigmentation, the higher the testosterone, which lowers IQ.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
  55. @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    Check out libertardian class theory, it’s practically impossible to make sense of modern world without it. Yeah, liberals were there before the marxtards and their nazi wall-street financed offspring.,%20A_4.pdf

    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
  56. Liza says:

    Re Nigel Farage. This Nigel Farage?

    I like your views on poor Derbyshire.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  57. Anonymous[393] • Disclaimer says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    Schadenfreude I see. This is why Asians should not trust white people. White people are doomed, and they will only seek to take down other people with them.

  58. Anonymous[393] • Disclaimer says:

    The Derb at least understands that Whites offer little to Asians. White people are not trust worthy, and will only use an alliance as a means to connive and backstab.

    White people would probably make taking in immigrants and gay marriage a precondition to such an alliance lol.

    Besides, the brunt if African and Latino immigration will be felt by White countries not Asian countries. Asian countries will rely more on robots and AI and will not need to import people in mass. And if they do they will import SE Asians who are more culturally compatible anyway.

    So take your Artic alliance and shove it!

  59. Gefreiter says:

    Earth to Derb:

    Slaves cannot form alliances. It is one of those pesky thinks about slavery.

    All the Arctic countries Derb loves are already colonies of ZOG. All of them are directly or indirectly under Noahide laws. All Nato countries are merely vassals in the Rothschild army. Even Iceland has been forced to allow circumcision and the state pays for a full time Rabbi.

    If we look at it from a perspective of debt, the entire west has mortgaged off its prosperity to jew created inflation. It really started accelerating after Roosevelt abolished the gold standard in the US in 1933, then when Nixon dropped the peg in 1973 the jew inflation started. Fast forward 45 years, and the entire “arctic league” is indebted to the same money lenders who crucified Jesus.

    The real issue here is Derb’s inability to name the jew. From Israel today, to 9/11, to Irgun and Hagganah, to war clouds over Iran, Derb is jew blind. He thinks that this makes him virtuous, but in reality it just shows what a fool he is.

  60. denk says:

    LOL !

    Anglos have been using their Indian cousins to attack Chinese since time immemorial.

    Opium war,

    Eight nations union,

    1959 Tibet,

    1962 INdo/sino war,

    2001 Nepal,

    2008 Tibet,

    Sri Lanka,



    The Quad,

    Tip of an iceberg…..

    Exhibit Nepal 2001
    CIA/RAW wiped out the entire family of pro China
    king Birendra of Nepal, one of the most gruesome
    regime chaNge of 20C

    Exhibit QUAD, 2019

    ‘ India’s naval forces joined those of the US, Japan and the Philippines to conclude their first-ever joint naval drill in the South China Sea on Thursday, prompting censure from China, which claims sovereignty over the resource-rich marine region.’

    • Troll: Wizard of Oz
    • Replies: @Republic
  61. anon[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @Tired of Not Winning

    Jivey League, sheeeeeeit

  62. Republic says:

    Once again you are not an American or simply are out of date and out of touch with current America, which is understandable if you’ve been gone a long time and don’t return to visit.

    That guy lives in Thailand with a Chinese-Thai wife. He has stated that he hasn’t returned to the US since 1998.

    He says essentially the same things in hundred of comments that he has posted on Unz.

    To see a sample of his style go to the articles by Linh Dinh,where he sometimes posts many,many comments.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
  63. @Republic


    My experience with lower class whites was that they had children young, though not in their teens like blacks. Most of the males were older than the females by a few years, who themselves were 18 or 20. At an age when middle-class whites are in college or trade school the poor white male is a father unexpectedly. A 20 year old uneducated male with no money is a lousy father.

    Now compare this to Jews or WASPS or Asians who have a kid in their thirties.

    Perhaps they do not have children as often as the Cholos but the kids have equal disadvantages.

  64. Budd Dwyer [AKA "Anon000"] says:
    @The Alarmist



    So (((they))) will have still have an iron-fisted control over the propaganda and language.


  65. Republic says:

    Britain, United States, Australian, British India, Germany, France, Austria-Hungary, Italy, Japan

    Troops of the Eight Nations Alliance during the Boxer Rebellion, from left to right in that photo

    • Replies: @denk
  66. denk says:

    The 8 natons alliance was led by the anglosphere.

  67. Derbyshire’s Arctic Alliance is an interesting proposal and a useful thought experiment — reminiscent of Moynihan’s Law of Proximity to the Canadian Border.

    It certainly seems reasonable to guess that high-latitude climates shaped human evolution in such a way as to cultivate forethought, resourcefulness, intelligence and inventiveness. A little bit of family-planning fits nicely into that scenario as well, even if it is as much instinctive as it is conscious.

    One could say that the current migration of Sun People into the cold homelands of Ice People is made possible, and driven by, the products of that very same inventiveness and talent.

    Migrants often get here on vehicles invented and made by our kind, and then they live here in our centrally-heated shelters, travel in our machines, eat our farm-fresh food and get cured with our medicine. If not for the comforts created by the Ice People, why would the Sun People come to the harsher climate at all?

    Negative reponses to Derb’s thought experiment and proposal are narrow-minded. Let the man think aloud.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    , @anon
    , @Mark G.
  68. Truth says:

    Can’t we all just…

  69. homahr says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Trump and his justice department are ignoring Antifa.

  70. @Buzz Mohawk

    Obsessive addendum to my unfinished comment above:

    It seems reasonable that such capable people could see the mutual benefit of forming an alliance against an invasion that is now world-wide and threatens them all. Whether or not they suffer massive immigration, do you think East Asians would prefer a world in which their counterparts, their trading partners, have disappeared into a muddy morass?

  71. homahr says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    9/11 would have still happened since support for Israel would not have ceased. If there was no Israel, then no 9/11.

  72. Look at that face on Derb. Only that SPLC dude that looks like a Yorkshire Terrier has a face that says, ‘cuck me’, ‘henpeck me’, more than poor Derb’s.

    Ice Peoples of the World Unite, all to justify not being able to score a white woman. Can you imagine being a Boomer, living during the high tide of white pu$$y (60s, 70s, 80s), and not being able to find a white woman? Just stfu, Boomer locust. We know you’d be telling us to make allies with the Indians or the Pakis if one of those had ended up in your bed. At least I think Fred Reed is just trolling us and his wife actually does probably fetch him a beer now and again. But Derb? Nah.

    (If you need a boost to your speramus, be sure to attend Jared’s talk this afternoon. Title: “Why We are Winning.”)

    Jared’s going to give a talk! We’re winning! Yay! Does he mention (((the real problem)))? No? Ok, my ‘speramus’ will have to just be cool with raw garlic, squats and cold showers then. Thanks anyway, Numba One Husband.

  73. anon[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Thanks for that Moynihan’s Law! Great stuff. 🙂

  74. Anon[681] • Disclaimer says:

    There’s a very special person we must thank for the invasion of the Sun people on white nations:

    Bill Gates.

    His philanthropy the last 20 years has led directly to the population boom in India and Africa. Indian and African women took his vaccines and vitamins but said no to the birth control, while continuing to produce 7 to 14 babies each even though half of them no longer die from disease and famine as they used to before BillG the saint came along. Now the babies are all grown and need education and jobs, and Bill has no answer, other than to talk up their “potential” and try to get as many H1b visas as he can for his Indian code coolies, and watch quietly as his pal George Soros help the African army that he helped spawn invade Europe.

    Bill Gates and George Soros. There’s a special place in hell for these two, along with all the neocons and nation-wrecking, virtue-signaling limousine liberals and globalist assholes.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Republic
  75. Anon[681] • Disclaimer says:

    I was wondering which “Jared” he was referring to, as in Kushner?

    Good to know he’s on first name basis with the biggest globalist pond scum in the WH.

  76. anon[420] • Disclaimer says:

    Don’t forget all the Globalist Jew-worshipers busy saving all the black babies for Jewsus.

    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
  77. Travis says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    True, but the Immigration Act of 1990 made it far worse. From 1966-1986 only 450,000 immigrants per year were granted residency and 40% were whites from Europe. From 1991-2011 1,200,000 immigrants per year were welcomed into our nation, 90% non-white.

    While the 1965 law was bad it did keep immigration below 500,000 per year. the 1990 Act doubled immigration and created the diversity lottery. The Diversity Lottery was created because even after the 1965 law was passed the majority of immigrants were Whites. Reverting back to the 1965 immigration laws would reduce legal immigration by 50% , eliminate the diversity visa, eliminate the h1b visa program and the temporary protected status (TPS visa), provides visa to immigrants who are temporarily unable to safely return to their home country because of armed conflict, an environmental disaster, or other extraordinary and temporary condition. George H. W. Bush is quoted saying “I am pleased to note that this Act facilitates immigration not just in numerical terms, but also in terms of basic entry rights of those beyond our borders.”

    It would be extraordinary and near politically impossible to get the GOP sent to reduce immigration back to 1980 levels. Eliminating the diversity lottery would be quite an achievement today, and reduce Muslim immigration more than the so-called muslim ban.

    • Replies: @Tired of Not Winning
  78. @anonymous

    Arctic Alliance and Sun People. Perhaps he should call his theory A Song of Ice and Fire.

  79. Republic says:

    Re: Gates

    I thought that Globalists like him were pro Eugenics? What changed?

  80. Mark G. says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    The Sun People of Africa often couldn’t get here to the U.S. and Europe without our assistance and often couldn’t survive in our colder climate once they are here without our assistance. So we mainly just need to stop assisting them in getting here and eliminate the welfare magnet that attracts them and then enables them to stay. People seem to think the current African population trends will continue but Africa may reach its ecological carrying capacity sometime soon. Once that is passed there may be a sudden population crash rather than a slow decline much as all the deer die off at once in a certain area after they have eaten all the vegetation. It may be hard to sit by and watch that happen but the alternative is to keep letting Africans in until there are enough in the U.S. and Europe so it will happen here.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  81. @Travis

    We need lower birth rates for all ethnic groups. Trying to outbreed the darkskins is a mug’s game.

  82. @Mark G.

    The Sun People of Africa often couldn’t get here to the U.S. and Europe without our assistance and often couldn’t survive in our colder climate once they are here without our assistance.

    I agree completely. I hope the following part of my comment is not misinterpreted as attributing the means and ability to the migrants:

    One could say that the current migration of Sun People into the cold homelands of Ice People is made possible, and driven by, the products of that very same inventiveness and talent.

    I am referring of course to the inventiveness and talent of Ice People who have created the means by which Sun People come to high latitudes, live, reproduce and then demand that we all accommodate them. Not only have our kind built the means, but they have also created the motive. Life is so much better here, even though the natural conditions are more challenging.

    Indeed this problem will soon force people in our homelands to do something about it. The numbers can no longer be ignored. We here write and comment a lot about this thing, as it grows in front of us, but those who actually can do something about it, our political and business leaders, allow it to continue — as if they want it to.

    What else can we here do? This is no longer a hypothetical question, if it ever was.

    Men like Derbyshire are doing their part by identifying the problem and sounding the alarm, while we read and comment and wonder what can be done. We vote as best we can for the rare politicians who at least say they want to stop the flow, but nothing is really changing.

    There is some hope; the political tide in several countries is rising in our favor, but here in my America the president is maneuvering himself away from the top issue that got him elected.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @JEG
  83. Corvinus says:
    @Digital Samizdat

    “If the white race would ever get its act together…”

    So, must all or most members of this glorious race adhere to the principles who espouse? Would they not be in effect mindless drones?

    Consider how the Alt Right intellectual elites sucker people into proving how race realism is superior to all other concepts. As that is the directive, the “thinkers” must never be challenged, for their truths are “obvious” and “factual”. And through the past decade, the Alt Right has written endlessly about this one theme; anything else is automatically false.

    It’s like kids and the Easter-egg hunt. If you tell a bunch of kids to go looking for Easter eggs in a park, their minds will shut off to all the other wonders and realities of the park. They won’t care about flowers, trees, ducks, squirrels, and butterflies. Their minds will be obsessively focused on the Easter eggs as the only goal, only purpose, only truth, only reward, only meaning. Like Easter Eggs, they’ve been pre-planted by the Controllers, in this case the intelligentsia of the Alt Right.

    After all, kids who find Easter Eggs are not unearthing anything new. They are just “finding” something that the Alt Right wanted them to find. The “conclusions” have already been decided for them. If they arrive at those “conclusions”, they are rewarded. If they settle for different conclusions that goes against the Narrative and Iconography, they are punished. They really have no choice. And most Alt-Right intellectuals and scholars insist that certain idols and icons must be worshipped. As a result, they will hysterically eviscerate any “bad thought”. I get why it is appealing to some people, because human psychology generally prefers simplicity over complexity.

  84. Corvinus says:
    @Tired of Not Winning

    “Instead of an alliance, the west would do well to do a mass expulsion of all non-whites out of white countries, that includes the Jews.”

    OK, so you are in charge now of this process. Rather than talk about it, the time for action is now. What are you waiting for?

  85. Corvinus says:

    “All white nations have to do is expel the parasitic fifth columnists among us -the tribe, the neocons and the filthy globalists. Then and only then can whites once again thrive.”

    Great! You are now in charge of this monumental task. Are you up to the challenge, or are you going to meekly submit?

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  86. @Liza

    Thanks Liza. Here’s what’s even stranger. Derbyshire is giving his insane speech about an Artic Alliance to a room of white men, who have white families, and he’s telling them they’re white losers. He is telling them that his Chinese family is superior. And, incredibly, not one of the white males listening to this madness stands up and tells him to shove his Artic Alliance up his arse!!! These cucked Western males will not defend the West. And, again, the West is not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim.

    I will now talk about another cuck Western male – Mitumba E. Michael Jones (Mitumba EMJ). This unbelievably insane anti-Semite has gone even crazier. Like Derbyshire, just when I think Mitumba EMJ has hit rock bottom, he recently babbled nonsense about Iran and Islam that is so deranged, I’m being to think this man needs psychiatric help. I hope he gets a Jewish psychiatrist.

    He made a podcast with a couple of guys. I will attach the link. For about the first 38 minutes, he goes through his usual schtick, but after 38 minutes, one of hosts tells him that the present day Islam was corrupted by a Jew. The host converted to Islam because he lived in Indonesia and married an Indonensian woman. Indonesians are Mongoloids with an average IQ of 87. Once, again we are dealing with the Asian poontang problem and wrong beliefs – Islam. The host goes on to say that the real Islam (founded by the rapacious, pedo Mohammed) ended 200 years after Mo’s birth and the present day evil Islam was created by a Persian Jewish convert named Bukhari. Big picture, as a Christian, I can state that whatever kind of Islam exists, it is a Christian heresy.

    Mitumba EMJ states he doesn’t know this story, but this gives him an opportunity to wax rhaspodic about Persia/Iran. He talks about how Persia goes back 2,500 years, and it had a sophisticated culture. But Persia/Iran has never really gone anywhere. About 2,500 years there was a little war called the Battle of Thermopylae (480 B.C). If King Leonidas had not defeated the Persians, Western history would be completely different. Socrates, Plato, Aristototle – they would not have been able to do what they did with philosophy. The West would have succumbed to Orientalism.
    The defeat of the Asian Persians sent them back to their continent. Over time the Persians were conquered by the Muslim Arabs and they converted to Islam. Although, as Mitumba EMJ states they created Shia Islam. Shia, Sunni, these belief systems are flip-sides of the same worthless coin.

    He then babbles about how the Koran’s roots are being scrutinized and that Islam will not be able to withstand the scrutiny. The tone of his voice when he says this reveals that he does want Islam to withstand the scrutiny. And this is because, in his deranged, anti-Semitic mind, somehow the Muslims are needed to deal with the Jewish problem. Mitumba EMJ is a “devout Catholic” who will never state that Islam is a Christian heresy. He babbles about Logos and thinks that if Iranians discover Logos, they will be able to develop.

    Once again, biology first, beliefs second. Persians/Iranians are a mostly Asiatic people (Mongoloids). Their average IQ is 84. The host stated he thinks Muslims lost their way about the year 1000 A.D. The conquered Muslim areas began to decline. This is because Muslims imported large numbers of black slaves to North Africa. Through polygamy and concubinage, they mixed with blacks and destroyed the previously high IQ Caucasian North Africans. In Persia, there was no black slavery, but Islam practices first cousin marriage. Consanguineous marriage reduces IQ about 10 points and causes many physical problems. Islam is a belief system that destroys good biology. This is why the Muslim world is such a mess. Mitumba EMJ refuses to deal with the IQ question. He gave an interview several months ago where he became hysterical when the host brought up IQ and its relation to race. Mitumba EMJ said he was not going to discuss. Madness!!!

    So, once again, as I constantly state it is the cucked Western male who is causing our problems. Here are the 4 types: the Catholic male who accepts black/Asian priests-popes, the Christian Zionist who believes present day Jews are the chosen, the gentile Freemason who believes in universal brotherhood, and the Western male involved with Asian females. Until we deal with these four types, we will have a difficult time trying to save the West.

    • Replies: @Republic
  87. @Travis

    Trump just appointed some no name conservative to be his new “immigration guy”, not sure if he’ll be the Immigration Tzar or new DHS chief. But he’s once again passed up the perfect candidate which is Kris Kobach.

    This new guy has made some vague comments in the past against illegal immigration, but other than that, is really not at all knowledgeable about legal immigration. Kris Kobach meanwhile, is the real deal and knows his immigration laws.

    With this choice, and with the Kushner immigration plan, Trump is basically giving his base the middle finger, telling them he has zero intention of curbing immigration. It’s a stick in the eye to his base.

    I don’t get all those idiots who continue to show up as his rallies. What has he done for them? No more wars? He’s talking up wars everywhere, from Iran to Venezuela, NK to Ukraine. No more illegal immigration? He’s letting 100,000 of them in per month. Lower legal immigration? He hasn’t changed or lowered a single category of work visa. Better healthcare? He cancelled ObamaCare without anything to replace it, which has caused our insurance to go up by over 50% in 2 years, nice job!

    This lying scumbag and his idiot SIL have got to go. I don’t even care anymore if they impeach him. No one can do any worse.

    • Agree: Liza
  88. The US and China are both heading for self-destruction, it’s just a matter of who’s going to go down first.

    The US is being run to the ground by Jews, neocons, the loony left, globalist scums and the onslaught of third world immigration engineered by these fifth columnists for their own gains. We are fast turning into a banana republic, an ungovernable hell like Brazil. It is a sinking ship and the greedy Jews and globalist scums are just grabbing whatever they can before the ship goes down.

    China meanwhile, is facing their own hell. You could blame decades of communism for eating away these people’s souls, but the truth is China has never had anything but corrupt rulers and the Chinese have had their souls eaten away long before communists even came along. The Chinese are every bit as soulless, dishonest and dog-eat-dog as the Jews, just not as punitive or vengeful, or power hungry. But the elites in China have as little regards for their countrymen as our elites for us. They too are just grabbing whatever they can before the ship goes down.

    Unfortunately we are the favorite destination of China(and the world)’s elite scums, just to add to the vast pool of filthy globalist scums already in this country, so we can sink even faster. The only question is, where will these filthy globalist scums go once China and the US are the bottom of the ocean?

  89. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Nicolás Palacios Navarro

    But what would be the point of a pan-white alliance of “Arktisches völker” when it is precisely that demographic that is flushing Western civilization down the proverbial toilet?


    Actually if East Asians wish to survive they need to distance themselves from the decadence of Europe and America. It’s the influence of the nihilistic degenerate Europeans and Americans that has turned East Asian societies into death cults.

    Say whatever you want about the “Sun peoples”—and goodness knows the last thing I want is to see a flood of Somalians upon my doorstep—but they are not the ones who devise and perpetuate the self-destructive ideologies that are imperiling civilization. If you are angry at the great masses of the swarthy unwashed crashing upon the shores of the West, then set your sights upon the high I. Q. white people who wave them in, refuse to enforce immigtation laws, and then indoctrinate the new arrivals to boot.

    Yes. The worst enemies of civilisation are not to be found among black or brown people but among white people.

    Derbyshire as usual is living in a fantasy world.

  90. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Buzz Mohawk

    The numbers can no longer be ignored. We here write and comment a lot about this thing, as it grows in front of us, but those who actually can do something about it, our political and business leaders, allow it to continue — as if they want it to.

    It’s almost as if they want to keep wages as low as possible and the population as divided as possible.

    It’s not the political leaders. They are owned by big business and do what they’re told. It’s the business sector driving this. And not just big business. Lots of small businesses love being able to pay starvation wages to immigrants.

    It’s almost as if capitalism puts profits before people.

    • Replies: @Mark G.
  91. Hail says: • Website

    the hope of reversing the ethnomasochistic trend

    A less brainy version of this ought to be a political slogan.

    Out with the stale and discredited “Make America Great Again.”

    In with slogans like “End Ethnomasochism” and “Die Demokraten bringen uns den Volkstod.”

  92. Is “post- industrial” actually the most critical phase? I’m thinking of the fall of pre-industrial Rome, which may be seen as inevitable once Rome turned the corner from assimilating exotic influences to being torn apart by them.

  93. @attilathehen

    Here’s the other sentence that is worth analyzing: “Could East Asians succumb to multiculturalism? I wouldn’t say it’s impossible. Will they? I don’t know.”

    His Chinese wife and daughter have succumbed to multiculturalism.

    They voted for Obummer!!!

    Savagely precise and devastating.

    Old Derb really needs to stop huaweiliating himself.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Truth
  94. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    There will be no future historians. History is a Greco-Roman / European invention and once they disappear no one will be interested in writing history or reading it. Colleges already teach it mostly as an indoctrination tool, using only very simple texts with made-up ‘facts’.

    History also depends on high literacy. Future residents of what is today Europe will be preoccupied with fixing legacy software to keep their robots from running amok. Writing a coherent sentence will be a beyond their ability.

    • Agree: sb
  95. Western says:

    Ivan Illich is one of my favorite authors.

    • Replies: @anon
  96. @bored identity

    Derbyshire is gone. He has completely degenerated. This is what happens when a Western male gets involved with Asian females. Most of the commentators on Unz are either insane anti-Semites, Catholics who accept black/Asian priests-popes, or Western males involved with Asian females.

    I’ve had run-ins with the three types. They “threaten” me with banishment, call me a Jewess, etc.

    I’m dealing with an “anon” commentator on another article who refuses to admit he is involved with Asian females.

    The bigger picture though is why does AmRen allow such a buffoon to speak at their conferences? It’s because AmRen is controlled opposition. I’ve read comments from many nationalists for several years and they have always criticized AmRen.

    Another problem is that when Derbyshire dies (he’s almost 74 and has serious health issues) he will leave behind an anti-white Chinese family, a fifth column. The Chinese mother is busy looking for a Chinese wife for the son. The daughter will most likely marry a black. His family has no interest in the West. They are parasites.

  97. @Peter Akuleyev

    A common theme among successful Chinese in the PRC is their desire to emigrate at the earliest opportunity.

    This makes it sound like rich Chinese just want to leave China. But ’emigrate’ is code for ‘move to the U.S. or Canada, become dual citizens while remaining loyal to China, n form a Chinese ruling class that owns everything including local city councils’.

    If the U.S. n Canada would establish genuine sovereignty n real borders, n stop allowing foreigners to buy up all the real estate thus driving prices up n forcing locals into homelessness, then rich Chinese would stay in China n they would do just fine in their own country. Our own middle-class might actually have affordable homes again.

  98. @jeff stryker

    One of my ‘red-pill’ episodes was seeing the neighbor’s (probably illegal) maid who could not speak a word of English have a baby–at the same time that her teenage daughter, who helped her clean houses instead of attending school, also had her own baby. Mother n daughter giving birth at the exact same time, then returning a few days later to clean houses together, with their two babies accompanying them.

    That was years ago. Doubtless they have each had more babies since, still without schooling, still not learning English, n still using emergency rooms as their primary medical care.

    This is part of the wave that is engulfing all border states. I can only watch in awe at the naivete n ignorance of the mostly-white Northeast n Mid-west, who still don’t understand that this wave of low-skilled, low-IQ, non-tax paying, fake-documented immigration with stolen IDs is about to crash over them also.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  99. @War for Blair Mountain

    Racist simply means white, meaning a person of predominantly European ancestry. Everyone with an IQ over 80 understands this. (Unfortunately that excludes most Republican leadership.)

    The Dem Party has become the Equatorial Immigration Party. The Repub Party has become the White Nationalist Party. But Repubs still don’t understand this, n they won’t until Dem activists storm the White House n demand that it be rechristened the Black House, n all pictures of white Presidents burned.

    You think I’m kidding? It’s on the calendar.

  100. @anonymous

    A better name would be dark people,

    I prefer that Europeans be called colored people, or people of color, since Europeans actually have the widest variety of color in their eyes, hair, n skin. Equatorial people, or people with deep melanin OTOH are simply dark. I don’t see how dark became ‘colored’ except by an historical accident of terminology. How does ‘black’ imply ‘colored’? That makes no sense.

  101. @Tired of Not Winning

    I know this is just anecdotal, but as a lawyer I have had personal experience with both Indian n Arab lawyers. There are many of both in my city. The Indians are completely clannish n greedy, grabbing money any way they can without the slightest regard for legalities.

    The Arabs are less clannish but dominate the insurance-scam ‘market’, giving cover to other Arabs who arrange fake traffic accidents, n sending the ‘victims’ to corrupt Arab medical doctors, which guarantees the insurance companies will cave. They also specialize in fake welfare applications, filing dozens of applications all by non-existent people named Muhammad.

    And don’t get me started on the Nigerian lawyers n their medical billing frauds. . . there have been multiple high-profile frauds of that in this area. You can set your clock by when the next one will be discovered.

    The high cost of car insurance, medicare, n housing are all directly related to our lax (unconscious) immigration policies.

    Immigration has destroyed what used to be a low-crime, peaceful, high-trust society. Now it’s a no-trust society.

    • Replies: @Feryl
  102. sb says:

    On present indications Australia is heading towards being Derb’s idea of the good country – some Anglo Chinese hybrid state

    I doubt that many Old Stock Australians are enthused about this prospect

  103. @Tired of Not Winning

    “If you are angry at the great masses of the swarthy unwashed crashing upon the shores of the West, then set your sights upon the high I. Q. (((white))) people who wave them in, refuse to enforce immigration laws, and then indoctrinate the new arrivals to boot.”

    There, I fixed it for you.

    I agree, white nations first need to root out the fifth columnists among us if we are to survive.

    Yes, no social organism can survive long-term infection by highly destructive parasites. That is where we are.

    One of the pathologies produced by the infection is the phenomenon of national rule by Cat Women. A Cat Woman is a middle-aged woman who compensates for her lack of children by filling her house with a hundred stray cats, her natural motherly instinct running off the rails into Pathological Altruism.

    The West is now governed by Cat Women like Teresa May n Angela Merkel. Childless n neurotic, they try to fill their void by overcompensating with immigration, filling their countries with ‘strays’ from all over the world, as if by merely inviting them into her home this will domesticate n save them. The West is becoming like the house of one of these Cat Women, filthy, diseased, crammed with useless unteachable alley cats. These Cat Women Presidents are People Hoarders.

  104. @libertardian

    Libertarianism is part of the pathology. As Pat Buchanan said, empires rise on tariff protection, but they decline on free trade.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  105. The inability of Ice People to collaborate has its corollary with Sun People:

    From “Malcolm Muggeridge: The Thirties”:

    An occasion for righteous indignation in which all Governments could participate since the interests of none were involved, was provided by the publication of a report by a Commission appointed by the League of Nations to inquire into conditions in Liberia. This Report…’exposed a maladministration so cruel and so corrupt, and an exploitation of native workers by their negro masters so shameless, that the civilised world will not be satisfied until effective measures have been taken to substitute a system of justice for a regime of brute force and to establish decent conditions of labour.’ … It was one of the few occasions on which the Press and the League Assembly were unanimous, though whether their unanimity appreciably affected conditions in Liberia, is doubtful.

    The rulers of Liberia were former American slaves n their descendants. Interesting how modern textbooks always describe King Leopold’s atrocities in the Congo, but never mention similar atrocities by black rulers in Liberia, or the incidence of cannibalism in Africa, which in fact still continues today. Facts like these speak volumes about the intellectual honesty of Black Nationalists in the US, n about the alleged moral evil of colonialism.

  106. @anon

    This is part of the pathology also. Why isn’t she in Appalachia befriending white children? Because in the PC Cult melanin is sacred. Whiteness not. This is pathological altruism.

  107. Republic says:

    I have recently listened to a lot of Dr E Michael Jones’ you tube interviews.

    * He is excellent in discussing the Jewish Question, He wrote a masterpiece called, The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and its impact on world history

    * His analysis of cultural Marxism and the sexualization of the culture is also excellent.

    He states that the Jews were behind feminism, abortion and gay marriage.

    * He wrote a book ,Libido dominandi on this subject.

    * He is not a racial realist and apparently believes that multiculturalism is ok if they are catholic. So he seems to be ok on the brown invasion from Mexico. He is thus not a white nationalist.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  108. Mark G. says:

    If high levels of immigration is due to business support because “capitalism puts profits before people” then the immigrants should be voting for the pro-capitalist politicians who supposedly want them. Instead, though, they vote for leftist candidates when they get the vote. So I think it is a little more complicated. The left wants immigrants too because they want more clients for the welfare state and they know that many immigrants are eager to get signed up for free stuff. They also know the immigrants are mostly leftwing and will vote for leftwing candidates. Most immigrants aren’t sneaking into the country with Friedman and Hayek books in their backpacks. Big business does like the idea of internalizing the profits and externalizing the costs of immigrants. If you were to require a business employing an immigrant to pay for any welfare costs related to the immigrant or his family then business support for high immigration would quickly dry up. This is not really an issue involving capitalism itself. This is more of an issue of businesses trying to shift the costs of their immigrant employees onto the taxpayer in general.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Feryl
  109. @Sin City Milla

    Yes….I think you nailed it……

    The ENDGAME for GREEDY CHEATING CLASS WHITE LIBERALS is what happened to Michael Rockerfeller…only it will happen within the borders of America….that’s what you get when you import an equatorial subspecies of homosapien VOTING BLOC…..Michael Rockerfeller…..homoshrunkinheadus…….

    I am of the opinion that the NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN WORKING CLASS HISTORIC MAJORITY…..should dip the WHITE LIBERAL GREEDY CHEATING CLASS into vats of sulfuric acid……but there must be a public debate about how…..HEAD FIRST?….LEGS FIRST?….or toss them in BELLY FLOP?

  110. Question:

    Why are Han Supremacist Andrew Yang’s people being imported LEGALLY INTO OUR AMERICA?

    Answer:1)To enthusiastically vote THE NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN WORKING CLASS MAJORITY into a violently persecuted White Racial Majority within the borders of America…..2)To eat and finish off the remaining California Red Legged Frog Population…… Calavaras County California…….


  111. With 100 percent certainty you can predict over-the-top RACE WAR in America’s very near future…

    The reason why Nations have borders:a higher level agreement among Nations not to annihilate each other because of irreconciliable differences between different RACIAL TRIBES-ETHNIC TRIBES….that are massively-nonlinearly amplified when they compete for the same exact LIVING AND BREEDING SPACE….


    The passage of THE 1965 IMMIGRATION REFORM ACT……55 years of pouring gasoline into America’s basement…….full to the brim….overflowing into the streets…….a match or two away….

  112. The Topology of long term viable Nations………


    It’s more than just a metaphor…..IT’S REAL WORLD-LIFE AND DEATH….


  113. denk says:
    @MEH 0910

    Ever heard of ‘ethnic specific bio weapon’ ?

    Exhibit A

    Brit bio weapon expert David Kelly was ‘suicided‘ cuz he knew too much of that diabolical program.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  114. Just a very gentle reminder:

    If you voted for Richard Nixon….Ronald Reagan…and George H Bush…….


    • Replies: @Anon
  115. Truth says:
    @bored identity

    Old Derb really needs to stop huaweiliating himself.

    Well played, I am a fan of the fine-pun artform, and a bit of a well-regarded commonsseur myself.

  116. anon[339] • Disclaimer says:

    Glad you liked it, buddy.

    I’d go further an blame cars and guns for women voting, which is the downfall of the nation. The LoLbertarian party brags how women first voted in Wyoming, because they were pistol packing mamas. Now soccer moms drive powerful multi-horsepower Iron Chariots like men too. Since they are able to wield the same power tools as men, it lends credence to the notion they’re the same.

    Ned Ludd was right! 🙂 And so were the Englishmen who complained new-fangled bicycles were turning women into wandering sluts.

  117. @Sin City Milla

    You don’t need tariffs.
    Tax all revenues generated in the US,
    Allow deductions only for those expenses incurred in the US.

    See how easy that was?

  118. @anon

    The problem is that de-jewing is an old Christian heresy that was settled a long time ago. Further de-jew-ification attempts would be recognized as such by theologians and preachers.

  119. @anonymous

    Agreed. As the sun god is Apollo, it’s actually the “Ice People” who ought to be the “Sun people”. Mongolians likewise have a sky god, and of course the Japanese have sun associations too.

  120. @Tired of Not Winning

    What about correlation of testosterone with math and spatial ability? There’s more to the story than just T.

  121. anon[323] • Disclaimer says:

    Whatever Alliance is made, the Chinamen will cheat on what is written. Bigly.

    Scientists Track a Banned Climate Pollutant’s Mysterious Rise to East China

  122. Anon[312] • Disclaimer says:
    @War for Blair Mountain

    Go back to Ireland you drunk bum.

  123. @Republic

    Are you a cradle Catholic? If yes, are you a pre- or post-Vatican II Catholic? I’m a cradle, post-Vatican II Catholic who left the RCC because I don’t accept black/Asian priests-popes.

    I listen to EMJ’s podcasts and have read sections of his books online. They are interesting, but he does not understand world history, biology and IQ. He is a devout Catholic, so he accepts all of the RCC’s teachings. He believes that it is a person’s soul and the person’s acceptance of God’s grace through RCC sacraments that can help a person to be moral. I do believe people have souls, but condition of their souls is dependent on their biology. Biology is first, beliefs are second.

    EMJ is not a race realist and accepts anyone who is Catholic, regardless of race. As to Mexico, which country is better, Catholic Mexico or Protestant America? Let’s compare 2 other countries to Utah Mormons. El Salvador is Roman Catholic. 90% of the people are Amerindian (Mongoloid) with an average IQ of 80. Haiti is Roman Catholic 99.9% of the people are black with an average IQ of 67. Utah Mormons are Caucasians, mostly of English descent, with an average IQ of 105. El Salvador and Haiti take the RCC communion wafer. Utah Mormons just use bread and water for their communion service. Which of these 3 groups is the best?

    He is correct about people who cannot control their passions, lusts. If you’re druggin’, boozin’, and floozin’, only bad things will happen to you: diseases, heartbreak, financial problems – the wages of sin. The culture has been sexualized, but the goyim are not fighting hard to stop this.

    Jews get involved in revolutionary movements after the gentiles have started the movements and the gentiles cede leadership positions.

    Here’s the big picture. EMJ cannot deal with the fact that diversity has destroyed the RCC. The Orthodox Church with its racial/ethnic churches will be the church of the West. Blacks/Asians must have their own churches. He must accept the state of Israel. He will not deal with the fact that present day Jews are not related to the Jews of the Old Testament or when Jesus lived. If there are people who believe they are Jewish, fine, let them have Israel. It is up to Christians to tell them they are not the chosen. We will have to deal with Christian Zionists about this. I do not want Jews in the West so they must go to Israel. The Muslim Palestinians have Jordan. He has this bizarre obsession with Iran. In his insane mind, he believes that Iran will deal with the Israel problem. They will not. I don’t want a war with Iran, it is unnecessary, but we should collapse the regime. This will take care of the Iranian probem. They are a terroist state and sponser terrorism.

    EMJ babbles against Americanism. He blames Americanism for the problems in the Catholic Church. He is Irish and German. His grandfather immigrated to the USA. If EMJ finds his grandfather’s birth certificate, he can get Irish citizenship. Ireland needs him. The Irish have degenerated. They voted for abortion and gay marriage. These two were imposed by Supreme Court judicial fiat on America. He can travel to Germany and deal with the problems the Catholic Church is having. American is a Protestant country. It doesn’t need Catholics.

    EMJ doesn’t want to deal with the fact that gentile homosexual priests have taken control of the RCC. Jews had nothing to do with this.

    There is no Jewish Question. Jews have a home and they must go there.

    • Replies: @Republic
    , @Feryl
    , @anon
  124. KenH says:

    …so that when Ebola hit the international headlines in 2014, they clamped down hard on African immigration.

    The Chinese just needs Jews to control their media and legal system so this can get struck down by Chinese courts and they can enjoy the blessings of die-versity. It’s not fair for the West to have all the fun and the Africans.

    ….calling that conflict “the Cold Civil War”—two big groups of white people who can’t stand the sight of each other,

    Derb is just too cowardly to acknowledge Jewish power and influence in creating the worsening acrimony between the white political right and left. The divide is now so wide that we may never be one people again and it’s entirely due to the Jewish brainwashing of (((Hollywood))) and school curriculum and a constant stream of fake news demonizing right of center Americans as provincial, racist, small minded and declasse and the source of everyone’s problems. Sadly, a solid 30% of non-Jewish whites have bought this propaganda.

    Of course, dividing the majority race and causing them to bitterly fight amongst each other over inconsequential things is a great survival strategy for diaspora Jewry.

  125. Republic says:

    No I am not a RC.

    EMJ is not a race realist and accepts anyone who is Catholic, regardless of race

    You are correct regarding this.

    The Irish have degenerated. They voted for abortion and gay marriage

    very true

    EMJ doesn’t want to deal with the fact that gentile homosexual priests have taken control of the RCC

    I think that he understands that point regarding Homosexual priests. He calls them the homosexual mafia

    There is no Jewish Question

    My friend, you are mistaken, without an understanding of the Jewish Question one cannot understand society.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  126. Feryl says:
    @Sin City Milla

    Affluent/well-educated whites, and the wommenz, are the primary apologists for third world immigrants. Lower class white guys across America have been fed up with this crap for 30 years at this point (and keep in mind that a lot of the Midwest had native born undesirables become a bigger and bigger headache after WW2 ended). On the GSS, 48% of self-described upper class white guys voted for Hilary, whereas middle-lower classes voted heavily for Trump. The Dems talking up reparations and such in 2020 (instead of being old-school Leftists) would be a major folly, as it would further inflame the nerves of proles whites tired of being dumped on by cultural Marxist globalists.

    who still don’t understand that this wave of low-skilled, low-IQ, non-tax paying, fake-documented immigration with stolen IDs is about to crash over them also.

    Puhleeze, many immigrants in the Midwest came here legally on worker and refugee visas, or via the lottery/chain migration. Most “illegals” in America are Hispanics concentrated in the Sun-belt; in Minnesota, there are tons of immigrants from Asia, The Middle East, Africa, and Russia*, almost all of whom are legal.

    Legal immigration is a greater problem, because Africans and Arabs cause more trouble in the long-run than Mexicans do.

    *Compared to pre-1990

  127. Feryl says:
    @Mark G.

    Mark, the “solution” is for economic Leftism to become such a dominant trend among the increasingly powerful newer generations (Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z) that the “business community” runs the risk of State power/control growing so immensely that free market capitalism is mortally wounded. When the private sector awakens to what’s going on, they’ll eventually figure out that they need to support cultural conservatism (including slashed immigration) to save their own heads. Since the 1980’s the private sector has supported cultural liberalism (including high immigration levels) precisely because economic conservatism/neo-liberalism has been unchallenged by all notable countries since the late 80’s (China, Russia, America, Germany, UK, France etc. have all moved to varying degrees away from the economic re-distribution trends that dominated the 1940’s-1960’s).

    Decadence, greed, high immigration levels etc. all correlate to arrogant and clueless elites promoting social Darwinism and a “hands-off” approach to civic issues. Restoring wholesome cultural stability must include the re-introduction of at least mild controls on The Market, to prevent monopolies and gratuitous booms and busts, and over-reliance on usury. And of course we need to limit the supply of “reserve” labor (which since the early 90’s essentially includes the entire world). If those who run The Market have any sense, they’ll accept and perhaps even promote mild controls on the market, lest they let things get so out of hand that younger generations try their hand at full-scale socialism/communism.

  128. Feryl says:

    The Irish have degenerated. They voted for abortion and gay marriage. These two were imposed by Supreme Court judicial fiat on America. He can travel to Germany and deal with the problems the Catholic Church is having. American is a Protestant country. It doesn’t need Catholics.

    The Irish were later to the neo-liberal party than other Westerners, but they sure caught up, huh? Let history record that individualist (me me me) “capitalism” quashed the wholesome mores that collectivist socialism/fascism (and socialism-lite, as it were) sustained in the 1930’s-1970’s.

    I know that Silents and Boomers find it a very bitter pill to swallow that they were led to believe that way too many human beings were to varying degrees “miserable” or “mistreated” during the Great Compression (1930-1980); but last I checked, Franco’s Spain did not allow gay clubs to screen hard-core porn non-stop. Of course there were excesses during the Great Compression, but at least we tried back then to improve society, instead of promoting a hedonistic and narcissistic free for all.

  129. Feryl says:
    @Sin City Milla

    Immigrants (and often their descendants) are notorious scam artists, because obviously they lack respect for their host nation since the host nation was founded and is run by a different ethnic group to whom they lack loyalty and/or genetic kinship. Both legacy American blacks and black immigrants are so culturally/genetically divergent from white Americans (and the “white” system) that they often think nothing of soaking the whites who founded America. The same applies to Jews and Asians, though it appears that higher functioning groups are capable of, over time, gaining more respect for the host nation and assimilating to some degree.

    There’s also the fact that immigrants usually feel as if they have an “out” if they get caught: just flee back to one’s home country. This is why communities historically are very wary of transplants; perhaps this new arrival is a dirt bag looking to steal some stuff, and then high tail it elsewhere, maybe even back home.

    • Replies: @Sin City Milla
  130. JEG says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I think the biggest part of the problem is that too many members of the elite in the US and Western Europe are sheltered from the reality of life in this world. They want to be nice and caring without having any idea as to the long run consequences of adding more and more migrants and their descendants to the overall population of their countries.

  131. @al anon

    As it turns out, the converse is also true.

  132. @WorkingClass

    Intelligence has nothing to do with it. Original sin, OTOH, is the proximate cause.

    • Replies: @anon
  133. @Republic

    Mon ami, no one has a better understanding of the JQ than moi.

    EMJ thinks a Jew is a theological creation. Present day Judaism is not related to the Judaism of the Old Testament. After the temple was destroyed, the few remaining Jews started what is present day rabbinical Judaism. It has little to do with the Old Testament and is a mix of the Talmud, Kabbalah, and Zohar. If present day Jews want to practice this odd belief system, they can do it in Israel.

    I look at Jews as a racially/ethnically non-Western people. Today’s Jews are not related to the Jews of the Old Testament or when Jesus lived. The average IQ of the first century Jew was about 90 – barely average. The Romans considered them an intellectually inferior people. As they were dispersed throughout the world, they intermarried and became a mixed-race group. Through persecution the less intelligent were winnowed and eventually by the 19th century the average Jewish IQ increased to about 100. They had nothing to do with the development of Western civilization and when they were emancipated by Napoleon, Europeans were surprised by the “intelligence” of the European Jews. The 19th and 20th centuries were revolutionary times and we know what happened.

    Modern day Jews have high intermarriage rates with blacks/Asians. While the Ashkenazi Jew would be racially Caucasian, their high intermarriage with blacks/Asians have destroyed the “European Jew.” The average Israeli Jewish IQ is only 93.

    To understand the present day JQ, you also have to be familiar with Freemasons and other occult groups. The Freemasons want to rebuild the temple so they can take over the world. Protestantism is partially controlled by Freemasons so this is why we have the Christian Zionists. The Scofield Bible was a Freemasonic creation. The Freemasons believe that they will control Israel and the Christian Zionists believe Jesus will come back when the temple is rebuilt.

    Christian Zionists and gentile Freemasons are the ones who give present day Jews their “power.” This is why we must deal with these groups first. Mike Pence is an insane Christian Zionist. Fortunately, American Protestant churches are closing. The Orthodox Church is filling the vacuum. Also, we have to tell Muslims that Israel is part of the Middle East. We have to tell Muslims that their religion is a Christian heresy and therefore false. We have to tell them that because of their low IQs, they need their talented 10% to help them develop their countries.

    However, I also want to point out that some Jews are beginning to become aware that the West does not want them. (((David Cole))), who writes for Takimag, has written some articles telling Jews to get over their holocaust nonsense. He is a Holocaust revisionist so he sees things differently from most Jews.

    The sophist Jew (((Molyneux))) just had a youtube about the IQ drop in Western nations. He, as usual, points out East Asians and Ashkenazi Jew are smarter than whites. They are not and had nothing to do with the West’s development. EMJ is correct in not wanting to be a white nationalist. This is why I’m a Western nationalist. The West is not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim. (((Molyneux))) has also been lying about his Jewishness. I rarely listen to his schtick, but on a recent youtube he gave some story about his having a Jewish step-grandmother. Here is the truth:

    On another recent youtube, (((Molyneux))) started babbling about how it’s not race that’s important, but values.

    I look at the West’s problems from several perspectives and do not blame everything on the Joooooz. This gives Western cucks an excuse to get out of doing what needs to be done.

    • LOL: Alden
  134. anon[420] • Disclaimer says:

    The original sin fable never happened. There was never a single breeding pair of humans, and genetics scientists have demonstrated the “minimum population size” has never dipped below 2,500. To learn more, smack that moar! button.


    The facts first. Sheehan et al., building on earlier work by Li and Durbin (references in margin), calculated that the minimum population size associated with the worldwide expansion of humans out of Africa roughly 100,000 years ago was 2,250 individuals, while the population that remained in Africa was no smaller than about 10,000 individuals. For population geneticists, this is the “effective population size,” invariably smaller than the census size, so these are minimum estimates, and ones derived from conservative assumptions. The population sizes are estimated by back-calculating (based on reasonable estimates of mutation rates and other genetic parameters) how small an ancestral population could be and still give rise to the observed level and structure of genetic variation in our species.

    Note: 2,500 is larger than two.

    This means, of course, that Adam and Eve couldn’t have been the literal ancestors of all humanity. Normally, such a scientific trashing of scripture could be absorbed, at least by liberal theologians. They’d just reinterpret Adam and Eve as metaphors. But that causes big trouble on two counts…

    Jerry Coyne (2013) Scientists Try to Reconcile Adam and Eve Story, Whiff. Again. New Republic.

  135. anon[420] • Disclaimer says:

    > I don’t accept black

    The Jew Testament tells of early recruitment of blacks in Acts 8:26-40 and elevating them to leadership positions by Acts 13:1.

    > It is up to Christians to tell them they are not the chosen.

    “The people of Israel, chosen.” Romans 9:4

    > Christian Zionists

    • Matthew 21:5 “Say to Daughter Zion, ‘See, your king comes to you.”
    • John 12:15 “Do not be afraid, Daughter Zion; see, your king is coming.”
    • Romans 9:33 “See, I lay in Zion a stone…”
    • Romans 11:26 “The deliverer will come from Zion…”
    • Hebrews 12:22 “Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem.”
    • 1 Peter 2:6 “See, I lay a stone in Zion.”
    • Revelation 14:1 “Standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000.”

    You keep asserting Christianity isn’t something, when it has been so from the beginning. Have you ever cracked open a Bible?

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @homahr
  136. @WorkingClass

    If humans were intelligent they would be enjoying peace and prosperity.

    Not with a barge pole.

  137. @anon

    I vaguely recall you. You are very anti-Christian. What do you care what the Bible says? What you are quoting is out of context.

    • Replies: @anon
  138. Anonymous [AKA "Tetraevangelium"] says:

    I honestly don’t know why you spend the time to transcribe your old podcasts because for one your takes are garbage in and of themselves and i have no idea what sort of loser nobodies would be interested in your shitty understanding of the world from 10 years ago. I honestly feel the same way about the Z-man who is another over promoted mediocre commentator on politics who will never live up to Samuel Francis who had flaws but nonetheless at least had something to say. Really you’re all pathetic losers pretending to be relevant and you should recognize it and move on.

  139. anon[420] • Disclaimer says:

    Desperately spewing “out of context” when you’re embarrassed by what’s inside the Bible has turned into an internet joke:

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @attilathehen
  140. @anon

    anon[420), you’re a functional illiterate. I never stated that I was embarassed by what is in the Bible.

    I stated that I believe in biology first, then beliefs. This, obviously, has caused a problem between my biological beliefs and my Christian upbringing – Christianity is a belief system.

    People do quote the Bible out of context, whether liberal or conservative. However, no one wants to deal with biological realities.

  141. A little off-topic, but still related to the Derbyshire article.

    Here’s Lance Welton making it official about “Jewish intelligence” and that the “science and any questions” are settled about this. Hmmmmm…like global warming??? I hope Unz Review posts this one. I’ve got lots to say about this:

    Now that the hip-hop Hamilton musical is beginning to end – where the WASPiest guy ever was transformed into a poor, black bastard boy – here’s a new interpretation of a well-known episode in European history.

    Apparently, several of King Hanky Panky the 8th’s wives were black/Asian women. The grrrrrls are now telling their side of the story.

  142. I sincerely hope that the Arctic Alliance will work well. 🙂

  143. homahr says:

    Bible and Christianity are basically dog-shit.

  144. Lars says:
    @Mark G.

    @ Mark G

    “Northern Asians, with their low birthrates, probably won’t be moving in large numbers to the U.S. anyway.”

    Well, the Chinese have already swamped Vancouver BC. In my immediate metro area they outnumber Whites and are wealthier per capita than all other demographic groups save jews.

  145. @Feryl

    Agreed. Jews have been in the US for well over a century, but I still hear from some that they support Israel (before the US, in fact) just in case they “need someplace to run to”. No loyalty to the US there.

    Since i live in a near-black-majority city, I have lots of black acquiantances. One of the most surprising (to most whites) facts is that virtually all of the blacks i know have zero interest in anything that sounds like libertarianism or private enterprise. Virtually all either work for some level of government, or aspire to work for some level of government, or support Dems because they expect to receive a welfare (“reparations”) check from the government which the Dems will provide. This is why blacks will never vote Republican under any circumstance. They believe that whites “owe” them so they should not be required to work for a living. Period.

    After 400 years, american blacks remain psychologically “internal immigrants”. This situation will remain until DC wises up n gives them the Deep South. I guess that’s better than giving them the Deep State, which is where things seem to be going instead.

    Jews seem to have pulled the greatest con job of all: persuading whites to submit to their looting of the entire country, n even saying “thank you” to the looters.

  146. Alden says:
    @jeff stryker

    You don’t know any WASPS do you? Those southern trailer park trash are WASPS too. You really despise old American Whites don’t you?

    What kind of economic educational background does an old American of English descent who was one of 5 siblings and has 4 children have according to your great knowledge of America and it’s people. Is that person trailer park redneck cracker poor White trash, middle class striver or multimillionaire?

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