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Yet more evidence, if more were needed, that we live in an increasingly lawless society showed up in New York City news outlets last week. Here’s the story.

December 24th last year … sorry: 2019, December 14th 2019, in the Bronx, sixty-year-old Juan Fresnada was out walking with a friend when a group of teenagers attacked them. Fresnada was knocked to the gound, kicked, stomped on, and pounded with a garbage can. He died from his injuries three days later.

One of the teenagers, name of Jordon Benjamin, was arrested and charged with manslaughter. He seems to have been 15 at the time. He was held in a juvenile center, but freed in March by a judge of the Bronx Supreme Court, Justice Denis Boyle, as part of a policy prompted by the coronavirus pandemic. The authorities didn’t want teenage muggers catching COVID-19—Heaven forfend!

So that was March this year … dammit, last year, 2020. Forward to December 14th. Apparently there had been no progress on the manslaughter charge. Jordon Benjamin had been roaming free since March. At this point in his roaming, December 14th, he encountered a young woman, Amya Hicks, and slashed her in the stomach.

Jordon Benjamin, now aged 16, was arrested three days later and charged with felony assault and attempted assault, and misdemeanor weapons possession. At his subsequent arraignment he was—wait for it: this is the punch-line — he was released without bail by that same judge. He’s now strolling around the streets of the Bronx in freedom again.

The race angle here isn’t hard to figure out. Justice Boyle is white; everyone else in the story is black. The pictures accompanying the news story don’t show Amya Hicks, the girl who got slashed; but there’s an interview with her mother, whose name is Tynisha Smith and whose age is given as 33. We don’t know Amya’s age, but presumably she’s at least a coeval of Jordon’s, so her Mom’s was a teen pregnancy.

We’re down among the black underclass here. That means the killing of Mr Fresnada and the slashing of Ms Hicks are your fault, Whitey. It’s only right and fair that little Jordon is out free.

That seems to be the approach taken by the authorities, anyway. I’ll leave you to play the head games about what would have followed if Jordon Benjamin had been white, with the same black victims.

This was just an inside-page story in a local newspaper. It goes with so many other things, though: the coddling of illegal aliens, the legalization of shoplifting in California, the free pass usually given to Antifa and BLM rioters, …

How did we become such a lawless nation? The same way the guy in Ernest Hemingway’s book said he’d gone bankrupt, I guess: “Gradually and then suddenly.”

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  1. Wyatt says:

    “How Did American Become A Lawless Nation? “Gradually, Then Suddenly”

    Derb, I would say the same about copy editing in modern op-eds as well 😛

    How Did American Become A Lawless Nation?

    • LOL: Realist
    • Replies: @Jake
    , @Richard B
  2. MBlanc46 says:

    No choice. Blacks can’t be convicted of crimes. We can’t—yet—have two sets of laws, one for whites, one for blacks. So we have to ignore the law when blacks break it.

    • Agree: unit472, Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  3. “the coddling of illegal aliens, the legalization of shoplifting in California, the free pass usually given to Antifa and BLM rioters, …”

    You left out the most important crimes of all: blatantly stealing a national election and installing a Chicom sympathizer in the country’s highest office.

    What do all of the above crimes have in common? What could it be?

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Neuday
    , @Bill Jones
  4. A people without a vision perish—

    • Agree: brandybranch
    • Replies: @Realist
  5. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Do-gooder whites ramming through their hare-brained utopian schemes. Previously they forced Prohibition upon the nation, ushering in massive corruption, gangsterism and a loss of respect for law. Now they’ve latched onto blacks as their cause, using them to upend the country. Now blacks can run amuck, crime is the new civil right. Whites have this unfortunate tendency to proselytize, to be missionaries for their current belief system which in this case is PC cult-think. It’s turned into a religion, impervious to rational discussion.

  6. Thomasina says:

    “How did we become such a lawless nation?”

    By calling a deer a horse.

    • LOL: brandybranch
    • Replies: @Bite Moi
  7. @anonymous

    Almost, you almost have it. The do-gooder whites have glommed onto the Jewish self-destructive (but I repeat myself) mind virus. This has been 2,000 years in the making..

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  8. I have written this everywhere and I will write it again-
    White people….get rid of your goddamn Christian values. All the greatest of men in Western history who created the pavement you walk on were individuals with their own honor and coda. All religion does is obsess over moral bullshit. Morality is a man-made concept- something you must get through your collective heads. The great Oswald Spengler says the same thing- this democracy will give way to a Caesarian man and he shall uphold the laws and rules to create the next society. But this man can never arise in a system built on useless concepts such as faith and spirituality. It just cannot.

    Implement rules, implement laws and work hard. Use rationality, encourage creativity, and implement the technology.

    On a more rational note- get a white ethnostate. I don’t understand why this is not happening. Some state in Canada, heck any island in the Pacific or Atlantic would do. Create a law, create borders and allow anglo saxons only. Wait and watch- I guarantee you in a matter of time you will be getting applications from Germany, Sweden and likes. Grow your nation and set an example. You will have proof to show the world and then you can say- “Look, this is what we build. And everyone wants to come here eventually. But this time its different”.

    There is no other way. I don’t see anything else happening except the same bickering and discussing and debating that has been going on since the inception of this site.

    I can write pages on this subject. Will wait for responses.

  9. TyRade says:

    I am certain the open-minded moneybags at Netflix will base any sequel to ‘The Kid from Coney Island’ – another celebration of a black underclass jock making good by being stereotypically obnoxious – on the heart-warming story of Mr Jordan Benjamin. Hilaria Baldwin might play the steamy Latino love interest (OK, that bit will have to be made up).

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  10. @TyRade

    I work in the film line here in India. This streaming is a bane on art, the entertainment industry and cinema itself.
    I have an existential angst on a daily basis. My problem has nothing to do with wokeness and sjw crap! My issue is that there is so much content. There is way too much content out there. That asshole that runs Netflix had an interview in the Guardian and he said we are making a 180 new shows that year(it was 2019). Thats a new pilot every 4 days!!! Why? Why do we need so much content? There will come a time when nobody would know of Citizen Kane, 2001ASO or Blade Runner. Why? Because, well there’s just so much stuff to binge watch. Attention spans are collectively shot. There’s enough content on youtube released in ONE DAY that will last you a whole year(this is not a made up stat), now you have tik tok and the likes which is basically distilled, 30-second content because- well, who wants to watch a 5-minute video?

    What has gone wrong I ponder and feel utter dejection. There is a deep existential dread. Creating junk, consuming junk.

    • Agree: Dieter Kief
    • Thanks: Polemos
  11. @anonymous

    but how did the whites become this way? I have a feeling most people give way too much emphasis on sociology, religion and culture and not enough to biology, location and perhaps even climate. Here in India everything is chaos. People are always at each other’s neck, they have no understanding of right and wrong. China is similar and I suppose most 3rd world nations are like this. Every day we have thousands of 3rd worlders getting into white nations- every day. This is probably due to the survivalist nature taking over.

    Whites probably never had to have these issues. There’s a famous saying that goes “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. The recent whites born after WW2 have lived life on easy mode than the men before. Probably in the 60s both parents started working, kids never got the nurturing done right. This is why today’s younger generation seems lost, confused and weak. They never had a mother and especially a stern father. Meanwhile the new immigrants all have clannish behaviour and build their own mini nations wherever they converge.

    • Agree: TTSSYF, Exile, Old Prude
  12. Tho a lot of criminals are set loose in recent oligarch-sponsored ‘diversity’ projects, the sad fact is that the USA legal system has been hugely corrupt for decades … its corruption in the past more targeted blacks and minorities, but now the goal has shifted, and old techniques used to railroad blacks and Mexicans, are now being used against whites … but the practices are not ‘new’

    Tho there is a lot of crime by blacks, the person arrested has habitually often been someone else, not the person who did the crime, which is part of why the street crime continues even tho the USA is the biggest jailer per capita in the whole world (1 out of 150 versus 1 out of 1000 in safer Western Europe)

    In reality, almost no one in the USA gets a ‘jury trial’, tho all accused get a fake ‘lawyer’, who is for the poor typically an overworked drone, under extortion threat to help jail the target, or else lose his job … USA federal courts have a higher conviction rate than the Third Reich … 99% of all appeals to the US Supreme Court, are simply denied without any hearing

    It is common that US judges prevent evidence of innocence from being shown in court (‘file an appeal if you don’t like it’) … and a poor guy is told by his lawyer, ‘Plead guilty you get 3 years, go to trial the judge will sentence you to 25 years, what do you want to do’ … the guy pleads guilty and gets 7-10 years … and then files a hopeless appeal from the prison cell, an appeal ignored or denied

    The techniques long used to jail blacks, have also been long used to steal assets from whites in business or divorce cases – the latter another tool of the social destruction agenda – and now those techniques are being expanded across the board against whites

    With so much corruption both in jailing, and US courts confiscating assets for politically-connected parties or agendas, the US system is habituated to corruption, and railroading people whenever there is political or economic motive, whites now the main target but the playbook is an old one

    Long suppressed by media and internet search giants, there have been people for decades exposing that the whole USA legal system is a fraud, see e.g., the FAQ on US Judicial and Legal Corruption, where “Legal injustice victims find truth on what is happening, and the comfort of knowing they are not alone.”

    • Agree: Dick French, RoatanBill
    • Thanks: Polemos
    • Replies: @David
    , @Dick French
  13. The first miscarriage of justice was that someone who murdered someone in cold blood was only charged with manslaughter. While our society seems to have lost the plot as to the proper functioning of a society, our criminal-justice system is actually waging war on us.

    • Agree: Ugetit
  14. unit472 says:

    We’ve got a major problem heading our way. The black underclass has become so feral they are uneducable, unemployable and ungovernable. They are utterly useless to society and they know it so they run around doing smash and grab robberies, car jackings and mindless vandalism of other’s property when they aren’t shooting one another.

    They feel free to ignore police commands and violently resist arrest. Now we have DA’s who won’t file charges against these proto humans no matter what they do.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  15. Jake says:
    @Wyatt

    How did America become lawless? Well, the Antebellum Yank WASP Elite decided that Negroes were sacred and under their special care, which was aping what the Brit WASP Elite were doing. Then the Yank WASP Elite literally made the Negro Numinous with first The Emancipation Proclamation and then Reconstruction.

    All the rest flows naturally and inevitably from those. If the nation did not utterly reject those, which means a rejection of Yank WASP culture itself, then eventually we would get here.

    WASP culture always has been a small number of whites who hate and fear the vast majority of whites and will always act to harm the best interests of the vast majority of whites.

    WASP Empire always has featured Jewish bankers.

    Those things are set in diamond.

    • Agree: KlossTummybag
    • Replies: @Exile
    , @kerdasi amaq
  16. Realist says:

    How Did America Become A Lawless Nation?

    Avarice
    Insouciance
    Stupidity

    Not necessarily in order of significance.

  17. Realist says:
    @GomezAdddams

    A people without a vision perish—

    Yes and>

    A people that allow idiots to vote perish*

    *Not that voting determines who is in control…but it assures the idiots they are in command of their national destiny.

  18. Ugetit says:

    No choice. Blacks can’t be convicted of crimes. We can’t—yet—have two sets of laws, one for whites, one for blacks. So we have to ignore the law when blacks break it.

    Neither can the moneyed “elite” or the non-goy gangsters be convicted of crimes.

    “We’ve” pretty much ignored “the law” since practically forever regarding those two groups as well. But hey, why not?

    You can bet all of these rascals went free, too.

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=18487320

  19. You know, I remember reading how some police in Brazil formed death squads to combat, what can only be described as, vicious, feral child gangs. Maybe some like minded folks in the U.S. can learn something from that.

    • Replies: @Guest194
  20. @RJ Macready

    Within a generation, the Anglo-Saxon women would be nagging for the borders to open up. There’s no proceeding with an ethnostate if you allow women to live there with unrestricted access to the Jewish mind virus that beams into every civilization with ‘free’ internet access, 24/7

    • Agree: Johnny Smoggins
    • Disagree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  21. I suspect it had something to do with National Review writers telling social conservatives to rely on the “The Tenth Amendment” to protect this country’s legal system from degenerate atheists.

  22. Another remarkable accomplishment of the indispensable nation: we have become so lawless that we now have the highest rate of incarceration of any country on earth. Hmm, reality, wot’s dat?

  23. This is all starting to get a bit like Groundhog Day.

    Will we ever wake up to a new day?

    • LOL: Polemos
  24. David says:
    @brabantian

    I agree with most of this.

    I live in an all white town. To the best of my knowledge, there’s not a single black living within 10 or 15 miles of me. As you might expect, there is almost zero crime. I have never locked my house.

    But the town is absolutely not lawful. Everyone with a little bit of government authority uses it to reward his friends and punish his enemies. If you move here (please do), understand that you will not be treated fairly.

    If a nephew of a local cop drives his truck through your lilac bushes and stone wall, leaving his front license plate behind, he will not be charged.

    If you, an out-of-stater, don’t have your registration sticker on (but have it in the glove compartment), you will be lucky not to have your car impounded. You will certainly get a summons.

    Sometimes it’s charming, like when an old blind guy is still allowed to drive, provided he goes really slow, and doesn’t get too far from those who know him. Or how everyone helps everyone avoid having to report income.

    My guess is it’s always been this way. The difference is the people. Dump 50 blacks on us, and our lawlessness would become a problem.

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  25. Exile says:
    @Jake

    Our White problems aren’t about Protestantism or the Anglo-Saxons.

    Catholicism has proven no less vulnerable to Jewish subversion since the conversos and every race exposed to liberalism and vulture capitalism has suffered in proportion to its exposure.

    Look at Ireland in just the last 10 years. Eastern Europe was somewhat insulated by its otherwise tragic capture by the USSR but now it’s joining the race to poz. See Poland.

    • Replies: @Dick French
  26. @brabantian

    The system only was possible due to the acquiescence of the masses. Look for people to laugh openly at “laws” and dispense their own justice in the very near future. The United States is a low trust society, but its comical “justice system” has been a lagging indicator. That’s about to end.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
  27. Neuday says:
    @Joseph Doaks

    You left out the most important crimes of all: blatantly stealing a national election and installing a Chicom sympathizer in the country’s highest office.

    Why is kowtowing to a Chicom absolutely terrible but having every single Congresscritter, every President and VP, and every member of SCOTUS for the past 60 years or more kowtow to Our Greatest Ally which provides massive funding to candidates through AIPAC can’t even be mentioned? I think I’d rather have Chinese spying for the benefit of their nation than every single institution in my country run by people who want me dead, my children raped and impoverished, and think it’s funny. Where was all this concern about Chinese Communism when Sick Willie was getting funded by China and just so happened to reverse himself and extended perpetual Most Favored Nation trade status to China, precipitating massive loss of manufacturing jobs. The Heritage Foundation and many Republicans supported MFN for China because we were going to sell the China was a huge market and we were going to sell them a whole bunch of stuff. Har-Dee-Har, suckers!

    The fact is the election was stolen because the people who run this country hate the American people. Biden will take money from China, Ukraine, Russia or anywhere else. Shlomo is simply trying to distract you from the crimes of the (((Federal Reserve))) and Globohomo and since many of us are tired of fighting Israel’s wars in the middle east, maybe we’ll get worked up over the South China Seas or Taiwan or something.

  28. @Exile

    A good argument can be made that Vatican II sanctified the poz and Jewish subversion of the West.

    • Replies: @SolontoCroesus
  29. America became a lawless nation for one and only one reason, to wit, Americans didn’t care enough to deal with the people and politicians who were driving it in a lawless direction. In fact, they still don’t.

  30. It’s the leftist judges in this country that have been destroying it. Even when the politicians are dealt with, the judges keep screwing over American society. It’s American citizens that need to deal with these judges by simply removing them from their office. The problem in the U.S. is currently one of people who are utterly unconcerned with what is happening in their country. Laws don’t matter if they are not backed up with the willpower of the people behind them. It’s obvious that the people now in charge, could not care less about American citizens and therefore need to be removed from power WHOLESALE. Thousands of these flakes need to go….

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  31. botazefa says:
    @RJ Macready

    On a more rational note- get a white ethnostate.

    Who is going to give that to you?

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  32. I’m fascinated by the picture in the article: the young black walking the sidewalk.

    Now, if you do the math on young black males, just picked at random, each has about a fifty percent chance of being a felon.

    Now, if he looks like that, any realistic person knows the odds jump. Like, there’s an eighty percent chance he’s guilty of something.

    We can’t treat these people as entitled to the same rights and presumption of innocence as the rest of us. The proposition is absurd. They will — and do — render any area they inhabit unlivable.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  33. @Dick French

    True, but that’s the optimistic view. One might argue that if the masses haven’t figured this out yet, then they never will. (Admittedly, the Election Theft, and the accompanying judicial hijinks, might do it).

  34. @RJ Macready

    I am a Christian. And a race realist. They are not mutually exclusive.

    I don’t know why our Creator made colored people like He did. But I am honest with myself and my children about it.

    As far as an Anglo Saxon state they are about the most cucked of the Euro Christian peoples. Know who actually gives a little resistance againts the SchlomoHomoNegroGlobo steamroller? Polocks, Hunkies, and Dagos. There’s your Euro ethnic state, right in Western and Central Pennsylvania.

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  35. KenH says:

    I’ll leave you to play the head games about what would have followed if Jordon Benjamin had been white, with the same black victims.

    It sounds like Jordon was undercharged in both cases, but if sweet Jordon was white then he’d be charged with 1st degree murder, he would be denied bail and there would be wall to wall coverage of this case on CNN and MSNBC.

    If Juan Fresnada was white and shot Jordon in self defense then Juan would be made into the criminal and CNN would treat to coverage of his weeping and wailing mother telling the camera that Jordon was a good boy who dindunuffins and was getting ready to attend college. The media would give us a picture of Jordon in formal clothes with a shy, friendly smile and Benjamin Crump would be on the scene.

  36. @Stan d Mute

    Judge Denis Boyle is Jewish? Coulda fooled me.

  37. Art Deco says:
    @anonymous

    Do-gooder whites ramming through their hare-brained utopian schemes. Previously they forced Prohibition upon the nation,

    Prohibition was passed by a constitutional amendment which required a supermajority. What this judge Boyle is up to is favored by no one but hoodlums and a small corps of lawyers and academics who use their institutional positions to force it on the rest of us.

  38. Guest194 says:
    @George Rockwell

    City of God (2002) is exactly on this topic. Great film. Nominated for 4 Oscars.
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317248/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

  39. @RJ Macready

    There already is a white ethnostate–Amish country. And they do quite well. They know the secret; avoid higher ed, teach a trade, don’t plug into the matrix.

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  40. Protogonus says: • Website

    We get the point here but from a higher perspective, Democracy itself (worship of the ballot box), beginning with the American (and later French) crimes against King and Country, is clearly lawless in origin, essence, and destiny. Both the Americans and the French annually celebrate crimes (“Boston Tea Party” and “Bastille Day”) and they and their epigones impose laws more or less pro forma, invariably undermined by scofflaws and later by professional lobbyists. Doesn’t this sound familiar?

    By strict measure, the laws under Democracy regimes are purely for show; the essence of the thing in action over historical time is lawlessness. In the end, judged sub specie aeternitatis, Democracy with its usury, deficits, national debts, and cynical killing of babies in the womb by the millions (actually billions) is a CULTURE OF DEATH. Finer analysis shows that the French Revolution led inexorably to the Communist Manifesto when the best monarchical heads were undermined and/or killed by democrats with godless sophists typically in the lead. The rest is history.

    For finer-grained sifting of what happened, and for a measure of consolation from the application of reason (as above), we cordially invite readers of earnest bent to consult our recent treatments:

    https://www.academia.edu/41745763/How_the_German_Spirit_Died_A_History_

    https://www.academia.edu/41985864/How_the_Human_Spirit_Died_Meta_Analysis_

    https://www.academia.edu/42052811/Three_Malefactors_of_the_Communist_Idea_Meta_Analytical_Note_

    https://www.academia.edu/44692464/The_Antichrist

    https://www.academia.edu/41144933/The_Last_Day_Illustrated_Essay_

  41. @Bragadocious

    You are kidding, right? They are freaks- anti-technology Luddites. Technology will evolve us Bragadocious, not philosophy, faith, or tradition.

    The path is through reason which leads to innovation and creativity which is finally incorporated into technology. Amish are worse off than 17th-century natives and would probably collapse under attack.

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    , @Polemos
  42. @Dick French

    Speaking of City of God —

    A strong argument can be made that Augustine of Hippo subverted Roman Catholicism by fully incorporating Yahweh and Talmudism in the foundation of the Jesus cult.

    • Replies: @Protogonus
  43. @Sir Launcelot Canning

    LMAO, I am brown!!!!
    The reason the anglo Saxon state is cucked is because of Christian morality. They’ve been brainwashed into submission. “Polocks, Hunkies, and Dagos”…….had to google these terms. I do agree in that Russians and poles do seem more self-assured and ballsy, and they also happen to be more religious so that’s a strange conundrum. But then they aren’t as developed as pure white nations now are they? As an Indian, I feel the most daring and creative whites were the Germans, English, and probably the nordic nations. Italians, Spanish aren’t white, are they? By that definition so are many Arabs.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  44. @Supply and Demand

    This is why I mention- strict rules. Strict regulations and laws and that include holding the strings of the female is a necessity- as backward as it sounds. I cannot stand the Arab nations but you got to admire some of their laws. Rape someone in Jeddah and get your dick chopped off. It’s a brilliant(albeit archaic) system that ensures the masses are controlled psychologically. You cannot blame the internet or even television. Technology is just a means to an end.

  45. @David

    I want to write something on this. English is not my first language and I have a hard time putting across my thoughts in a manner that will be understandable. But I’ll try.

    What I think is this: No system works. Corruption is bound to happen. Administrative failure and government incompetence will follow any and every organization. This is human nature-we are inherently suspicious and differences will arise.

    I once interviewed a business tycoon in Malaysia and he said something that stuck with me- he said capitalism is incompatible with patriotism!! A rich man will always choose his factory and profits over national interest. If he is inherently individualistic, wants to succeed he will secede from the masses and seek refuge in his work. He will lose faith in his system and seek refuge in his wealth and creations. This is why I think China is doing so well- their politics and capitalists are noninterfering.

    This is also why I never understood how every person online on forums seems to imply that their nation and ways are corrupt…… “us Americans”, “we brits”…..are the joke of the world, we are suffering, are corrupt etc etc….when what I feel is that people are similar everywhere and all systems are corrupt. Every nation’s judicial system is flawed, and justice is rarely served. An organization- any organization be it religious, or military or think tank will eventually decay doesn’t matter what nation or when. The larger it grows the more cumbersome its affairs become. For all their faults the Nazis started off incredibly efficiently and managed many great things with aplomb-political, national, technological, social. But after around 1940(or whenever) chinks started appearing. They didn’t trust one another and eventually, the whole system collapsed into chaos- and these are Germans, probably the most rational and stoic people. The point is this is bound to happen anywhere and everywhere- this decay of the state of affairs. Serious question: Can anyone reading this tell me if there ever was a happy, advanced, well run state anytime in history for a good number of years?

    In the end, I think democracy itself is a flawed concept. As I have stated elsewhere- two siblings of the same mother will have differences why can’t two groups of people of different races, skin colors, nationalities and faith? Wasn’t JFK’s elections in doubt due to his faith(protestant)? This system was bound to be found out in the era of globalization and fast broadband. We are feeling the strain but all this was put into practice by men of the past, probably unknowingly.

    A benevolent despot is the only answer. He will worship Napoleon and Churchill. He will be above moral obligations and the petty rules of exploitation. Perhaps he will implement a rule wherein all the work will be done by robots and automation governed by nationally controlled conglomerates, and every human will get a universal fixed payment each month.

    They will be free to create, to read, to analyze, and understand. Religion will be discarded or at least completely separated from the state(You can’t fuck in public you can’t pray in public). Every child will have an IQ test taken every 3 years and accordingly assigned an outlet. Emphasis on building great cities(ruin value stated by the great Albert Speer). Emphasis on space science and radio astronomy(first contact would redefine us and delegate all religious texts automatically obsolete). Emphasis on neurobiology and nanotechnology- understanding the human brain and above all psychoanalysis- the greatest tragedy of human life is that the majority of us are malnourished as children and early life events define us for life.

    This is what an anglo saxon run government would work like and I am a 100% certain of this. No other culture can attain this. Africans, Indians, Middle Easterns- these are the lowest of the low. Clannish, religious, selfish, passive-aggressive- these are the triats that define 90% of the world. And look at the state of their lands. But even the nords or Japanese cannot achieve this kind of government. They lack manpower and geographical might. It must happen in America or Canada.

    Nietzsche’s ubermensch must arise. If it means all others go extinct then so be it. This is the only path for mankind. It will only happen if the western man leaves Christian values(he can use them privately and of course for art and festivities), and this inherent need to help and do charity.
    Or else what will happen is in the next 200 years the world will be filled with backstabbing browns and blacks, streets will be littered with trash as one can see in today’s multicultural Mumbai and Sao Paolo and as I hear-Detroit. A few rich families will probably stay on space stations ala that Matt Damon/Jodie Foster film I am forgetting the name of. Earth will sink and mankind will be a failed experiment.

    Jeez, I ranted. Apologies for my English again!

  46. Protogonus says: • Website
    @SolontoCroesus

    Not just Augustine and subsequent theologians but also the founding Fathers of the Church exaggerated the Hebrew content and meaning of Jesus of Nazareth, whose message was absolutely universal, as described to the samaritan lady at the well. Paul especially was anxious about Hebrew genealogy. This is inevitable since Jesus started his spiritual life in a synagogue, though it is notorious that he attacked the talmudist-like arrogance of the money-changers with a whip and cursed them.

    The brilliant idealist J. Fichte (d. 1814) offered a way around or through this problem in his ‘Anweisung’ (“instruction”) lectures of 1806, arguing persuasively that christians are wise to accept John alone as the source of the true message from Nazareth. By this means they not only follow the universalist path but also the brilliant divine light for guidance by the Holy Spirit, which assuredly lies inward (“the Kingdom of God lies within us” and “My Kingdom is not of this World”).

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  47. @MBlanc46

    It looks pretty much as if there’d be two kinds of laws for different kinds of – people. Derb might not want to acknowledge it. Then that turns out to be a problem. Otherwise, it can be understood as pure logic. Seen from the perspective of those with black skin – why should they want to be imprisoned much more often than – Asians, for example – see, there seems to be something quite wrong with this system, as long as it has such crass outcomes. – Easy! – Logic shall reign!

  48. @Protogonus

    Your reference to German idealist philosopher Johann Gottlieb Fichte is the first ever I encountered outside the walls of a philosophy department. – 2021 starts with a kind of secular miracle.

    Novelist Martin Walser classified Fichte among the self-helpers. – Meaning those who grew out of their usual social background (in the case of Fichte by pure intellectual brilliance) – and thus lack the protection of their pack, so to speak, and have to get along on their own. Dramatist Friedrich Hebbel would be another example.

    Well – and that’s why Fichte found – or: Highlighted John. He – – saw his position and his intellectual experience mirrored in him. – He did really believe in his visions – and in his capabilities too and thus managed to live even through periods in which he almost starved. – He saw his inner light though – and just kept going, until he did find the light at the end of the tunnel so to speak, and did achieve a position as a respected philosopher then. – A moving man.

    For those interested: Heinrich Heine did sketch a really nice (if a bit unfair, but what the heck…) portrait of Fichte in his brilliant and so light-headed/hearted indeed History of Religion und Philosophy in Germany.

    • Thanks: Polemos
    • Replies: @Protogonus
  49. @RJ Macready

    Amish are worse off than 17th-century natives and would probably collapse under attack

    Yes, well, as pacifists, they probably would. And they’re very far from freaks. Can you build a timber frame house using old school joinery and hand tools?

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  50. Protogonus says: • Website
    @Dieter Kief

    The poetic H. Heine is reported as saying, “Sleep is good, death is better; but of course, the best thing would to have never been born at all,” which comports with the life of the speaker very well, if you can bear to read its ups and downs, mostly downs. Talent is not necessarily righteous or correct.

    Heine did not support idealism (and thus warned against “Fichteans”) or its intrinsic monarchism, which is the real reason why he exiled himself from his homeland and lived among revolutionaries, even fraternizing with Karl Marx, to whom he was distantly related.

    Because of his political bias, Heine didn’t understand, apparently, what the great Seer Homer meant when he said, IT IS NOT GOOD THAT MANY RULE. The history of Democracy and its worship of the ballot box, leading to a CULTURE OF DEATH, is proof, as we discussed above at #42.

  51. Heinrich Heine was skeptical about the rule of the masses and feared for his beloved literary culture and the fine arts and all – and not only for that. His radicalism was not least a form of – coquetterie (ironic/erotic mood); – he loved to spread the gossip amongst the literati, that the french bohème was taken by surprise by the revolution in – a negligée. Henry Heine always thought that the revolutionaries were too close to – Christianity and asceticism and too far away from the free and playful spirit of – Friedrich Schiller’s Letters Concerning the Aesthetical Education of Mankind – and especially from his beloved playful Greeks. Not least did he stay clear of too much praise of the revolutionaries because he loathed those consciousness-riddled/ too conscientious per se – see his heartfelt and rather gruesome attack on poor Ludwig Börne. He made fun of poor Fichte and attacked him for the same reasons he did severely attack Ludwig Börne,  but Börne he did loathe altogether and he did want to destroy him, whereas he not only criticized Fichte but adored him and respected him as well.

    The solipsist Heine detected in Fichte is Martin Walser’s self-helper. A – – bright but – sigh – spergy – – guy who was too much taken in by himself to even realize the social world out there. Heine’s most brilliant analysis of Fichte’s – conundrums/ miseries, therefore, is what he tells about Fichte’s fundamental misreading of Goethe’s and Herder’s attempts to – help him out…

  52. Wielgus says:
    @Protogonus

    Germany – A Winter’s Tale by Heine is one of my favourites. He had a great deal of wit, as shown by this:

    “The German Censors —— —— —— —— ——
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    —— —— —— —— —— idiots —— ——
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  53. The real story, which no one at Unz seems willing to analyze seriously, is why has Trump, the GOP Senate and GOP Supreme Court failed so spectacularly over the past four years? No wall, no serious immigration reform, and the country moving ever further left on sexual immorality and denigrating European civilization. The naive view would be that GOP cultural conservatism is simply a scam to distract the masses while passing tax breaks for the rich and selling off national assets to multinationals and billionaires. But I suppose I am missing the 5-d chess moves the great persuader is working out.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Polemos
  54. Richard B says:
    @Wyatt

    The country has become so pathologically soft and weak that it even takes the side of its worst enemies – criminals – and calls it “Progress.”

  55. @Bragadocious

    “Can you build a timber frame house using old school joinery and hand tools?”

    I cannot. And there are indeed many things we can learn from them. But as a fervent admirer of technology and its might(to me the most important factor in creating and maintaining civilizations) I don’t relate to their ethos and principles. Besides, you think pacifism works? It goes against social Darwinism. The “father” of my nation- Mahatma Gandhi was a pacifist, and look how we turned out.

  56. @botazefa

    You must fight for it. Nobody will give it- nothing was ever given on a platter to anyone. But with vision and agenda(which most humans lack) you can do it. Won’t frustrated white Americans of Alaska not agree to say a demand that their state be cordoned off, seceded from the mainland, with its own government and only needing white immigrants from around the world? I think a day might come when it could happen. There are articles on the main page of this site filled with secession prospects and what it would entail. F

  57. Polemos says:
    @Neuday

    Have you read this from Eric Striker?
    https://www.unz.com/estriker/chinese-official-we-subvert-america-through-wall-street-jews/

    Watching the video unedited by Fox is interesting if this is what the CCP wanted to say to inspire its own people to take pride in their cunning and hope for a change (back to the more compromising ways, that is). The Jewish connection {Swype suggested ‘infection’?} opens up an inside capacity to move America, but see Striker’s case made there that the effect is loosening, slackening, weakening and how he ends with the ambivalent “World Jewry may have just met its match.” Lots of ways we can make a match.

    What do you make of this?

    • Replies: @Neuday
  58. Polemos says:
    @RJ Macready

    You are kidding, right? They are freaks- anti-technology Luddites. Technology will evolve us Bragadocious, not philosophy, faith, or tradition.

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
    , @Wielgus
  59. @Polemos

    LMAO! I thought nobody would know my username! Haha, one of my favorite films.

    I want to go live away in a cold, barren world, away from the matrix! Let’s all build a base in Antarctica and settle there. A new society of enlightened rational men.

  60. Polemos says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    I think it’s a mistake to say this is a “move to the left”, but your framing is the start of the issue for me. You have a good premise to start from what you know and what you see: why has an entire party and its outsider/figurehead President collapsed and gone out of its way to fail despite having such energized and zealous crowds willing to travel to rally for the cause? You make your point: it’s at least about the money, influence and power, but maybe you could be convinced . . . to accept what the GOP does is to win more hyperstructural victories in the bigger gameboards.

    I’m saying, from the perspective of the those who are actually left, they have also had many years of lies and co-optation, seen incompetence promoted and destroy chances for the good changes they want happen, as actual leftists. They see the fake leftists and the bullshit and the wealth roll. You can see this in the #forcethevote criticism from Jimmy Dore. They have zealous crowds but they too have even more people who want to believe in the Good Fight but know corruption is systemic, have given up so much hope and tire of refusing the bullshit.

    From my way-outsider perspective, your argument here, even to the tone, is just what Jimmy argues from his perspective. Both of you critique people for being clearly inconsistent with the principles claimed and see that people who set themselves up to be your voice do not have even their own: they sold their gift to speak on behalf of others; they sold out and sell off.

    Jimmy sees the move AOC makes as a move “right”, a move towards a hypercapital world and its destructive, dissolving recombination of the planet and its humanity; you see the move GOP makes as a move “left”, a move towards a globalized playground for those rich and powerful enough to have stooges to command and masses to transmogrify.

    You are both right: we are all pushed towards one another because, being so successful at breeding, now we all occupy so much more space, not only physically alongside one another but also in the vast estates of one another’s tiny minds. As much as our sharing this wonderful experience of being alive means we long deeply to find our kindred, our kin, we inevitably crunch into someone doing the formally same thing but in the other direction. Brownian politics. Like other particles, systems of particles, complexes of them, colliding and exchanging energy, realizing new opportunities: social bodies phase transition much like physical ones, and so “left” or “right” lose their meaning when, from a fifth dimension, you see also there is turning people “inward” (social isolation) and denying them an “outward” (lockdowns) that coalesces formerly disparate spirits into condensates of solid, frozen mass more easily stored or more stable. Just confine and keep on the pressure. (Don’t they call it kettling, what the cops do to the violent protestors?)

    (Of course, energy releases, too. Bombs exist because of creative insights into how energy once properly stored gets purposefully released. What might a bomb of minds and souls made from air and conversation look like in its stable, deliverable form?)

    With our masses of antagonized folks locked away in their monads, if you give them a Window through which they can see the world through the curtains you provide it but deny them the Door through which they step from “inside” into an “outside”, you now possess all these people, who choose to believe they are embodied in fragile husks daily challenged by imperceptible but fatally numerous amounts of living genetic code that rewrites their operating systems yet who will protect others from their own unknown infection of this social contagian by wearing cloths on their faces, people also choosing to believe that they are more than their bodies because some of us are born something other than how their bodies appear to be to themselves, for monads have no gonads.

    All they know of what’s outside is what they see when they are looking out their Windows. You can even provide the Window to them that they can keep in their pocket. They’d never leave Home without it. Well, metaphorically speaking, since no one leaves the House during lockdown. Certainly they’d never leave by its Gates.

    Maybe this is a lot of nonsense. Maybe someone is making a Joke.

  61. Wielgus says:
    @Polemos

    I think this guy is the Thing at the end. Only some unholy barbarian from outer space would pour whisky into a chess computer.

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
    , @Polemos
  62. @RJ Macready

    Since mainland italians typically have limited “Middle Eastern”/Semitic (Arab or Sepphardic Jew) genetic ancestry, little to no North African genes, and zero subSaharan African genes, no, Italians being white Europeans would not make Arabs white europeans.

    Sicilians are another story, but they constitute something like only five percent of the italian population.

    More important, is Kamala a real Indian?

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  63. @Protogonus

    Yeah, let’s admire someone who taught that death was better than life. Typical nihilistic mentally ill german.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Disagree: Wielgus
    • Replies: @RJ Macready
    , @Wielgus
  64. @Protogonus

    Oh – reply in comment no. 53.

  65. Neuday says:
    @Polemos

    Seems to make sense from both sides; it’s obvious to everyone who pulls the strings in America, so it makes sense the Chinese would contact the Jewish elite in Finance, Media, etc., and the Jews likely sense that their host will be collapsing sooner rather than later so it would be prudent to nurture contacts in an ascendant civilization.

    • Replies: @Polemos
  66. AceDeuce says:
    @anonymous

    Many white idealists are indeed stupid–but don’t let groids off the hook. This stuff shows, for the trillionth time, that they, as a group, are seriously fooked up. No one is making them act like rabid chimps–it’s just their nature.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  67. @Wielgus

    except the dog hadn’t entered the fray when this scene takes place- It’s the first scene in the movie actually.
    By the end it’s an open debate whether Macready or Childs or both are the Thing! Great great movie. They sure don’t make them like they used to. Shitty remake is already in the works and WILL suck!

  68. Miro23 says:

    How did we become such a lawless nation? The same way the guy in Ernest Hemingway’s book said he’d gone bankrupt, I guess: “Gradually and then suddenly.”

    And all the other personal decisions really. I didn’t used to believe that government had much to do with it but I do now. The Chinese government builds positive frameworks for personal development and the Chinese public comply. Conversely the US government builds negative frameworks for personal development and the US public also comply.

    If the Chinese elite are working for the wellbeing of the Chinese people, then the US elite are only working to increase their own power and wealth – the irony being that China is acting like an advanced Western country (used to be) while the US is acting like a corrupt SE Asian dictatorship (of the third world type that they used to depreciate).

    However, the US does seem to have woken up to the “Gradually and then suddenly” increase in Chinese wealth and power, and hasn’t worked out how to handle it – other than issuing threats.

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  69. @RadicalCenter

    Who the hells Kamala? It is an Indian name for sure. It’s a hindu name

  70. @RadicalCenter

    Don’t tell me you’re one of those jesus freaks who thinks abortion is wrong and unethical? Calling a bunch of cells(nothing more) a conscious human being!! We are all nihilists deep down and we know it.

    Also, all things considered, German culture is the finest of Europe. It is a tragedy that Goethe isn’t as well known as he should be. Faust is each of us!

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  71. Wielgus says:
    @RadicalCenter

    He was bedridden for the last eight years of his life, collapsing suddenly after which he was paralysed. Probably such a statement emanates from his last years, but the inscription on his tomb is quite theistic. Heine was hardly a nihilist. If he had his negative and melancholy moments, he was a poet after all.
    His Germany – A Winter’s Tale is a fine piece of political satire and was on my reading list at university. I suspect he would have viewed Covid hysteria with wry amusement. Much of his writing was banned during his lifetime, and subsequently.

  72. @Jake

    Really? The idea that the War to Prevent Southern Independence was fought for the benefit of the negro is just post-war mythologising invented by the Lincolnites to justify their assumption of political power. In other words, it’s a myth which didn’t cost its inventors anything.

    Stop believing everything a no-good Yankee carpetbagger tells you.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  73. @RJ Macready

    People have to rediscover true Christianity if they want to save their Civilisation. Demented idiots like RJ Macready have to be told where to get off. True Christianity is not to be found in any church where the personnel of that church have been pozzed; whose highest aim in life is to seek the approbation of their enemies(liberals).

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  74. Scotist says:

    ‘In the long term, violent crime in the United States has been in decline since colonial times. The homicide rate has been estimated to be over 30 per 100,000 people in 1700, dropping to under 20 by 1800, and to under 10 by 1900.

    After World War II, crime rates increased in the United States, peaking from the 1970s to the early-1990s. Violent crime nearly quadrupled between 1960 and its peak in 1991. Property crime more than doubled over the same period. Since the 1990s, however, contrary to common misconception, crime in the United States has declined steadily.’

  75. @Joseph Doaks

    installing a Chicom sympathizer

    There is no evidence whatsoever to support this shameless allegation.

    Just because he took their money doesn’t mean he sympathizes

  76. Polemos says:
    @Wielgus

    I’m probably autistic, because it bothers me immensely that you offer this theory to me but have the order of events so out of whack that I am led to believe you are trolling. He pours the whiskey into Cheating Bitch before the ‘dog’ ever reaches them!

    • Replies: @Wielgus
  77. Polemos says:
    @Neuday

    Please if you have not already, consider:

    https://archive.org/details/isbn_9780971680722

    Unrestricted Warfare: China’s Master plan to ďestroy America

  78. @RJ Macready

    We had one but it was surrendered by foolish libertarians n free-marketers.

  79. @kerdasi amaq

    There is no such thing as true Christianity you fucking imbecile. There is no scientific evidence, nor any archeological evidence of this Jesus Christ. Get some proof or else gtfo. Founding fathers were atheists. All religions must go- they have no place in the 21st century.

    You know what- I take everything back. Secede the nation and send all these Jesus freaks to Wyoming or Montana. Then the nation might be saved.

    • Replies: @kerdasi amaq
  80. @Miro23

    Spot on. Spending some time in Beijing I was awestruck. Instead of immigrating here, I should have taken Chinese citizenship. China is the future. If this is what communism can achieve I say make America communist. I will say this again- a capitalist will never be a patriot. My first passion is money and creating wealth. Everything else is secondary- national interest, culture(whatever the fuck this means), allegiance. And most recent immigrants feel the same way-Chinese, Indians, other 3rd worlders. Profits over patriotism must be the motto. China will put a man on Mars- wait and watch. Start brushing up on mandarin folks.

    • Replies: @TTSSYF
  81. Wielgus says:
    @Polemos

    a) I am a keen chess player
    b) It was a joke.

  82. @RJ Macready

    Don’t tell me you’re one of those freaks who uses name-calling instead of argument 😉

    I think most religious doctrine, including those of the religion in which I was raised, are untenable, unhelpful, and unnecessary. The content-free slavish “King Jesus” babbling, among other things, has made me sick of church, despite the sound values taught there, the insightful observations about human nature sometimes made there, the practically workable and sensible guidance on our behavior that I’ve learned there, and the goodhearted often compassionate/generous people whom I’ve met there.

    What either of us thinks of Christianity or Hinduism or theism generally have nothing to do with the scientific fact that there is a genetically distinct, genetically human being created at conception, that will ordinarily develop as we did if you don’t kill him or her.

    Calling that new human being a “bunch of cells” is conclusory and does nothing to advance your argument that human beings should be allowed to kill other innocent human beings so long as they are tiny, helpless, and not yet fully developed. You were such a “bunch of cells”, and thank God that your parents had more compassion and sense than you and didn’t murder you before your birth.

    And you will note that I made no statements about when a human being becomes conscious.

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  83. Bite Moi says:
    @Thomasina

    Thomasina————Coming to a city near you———mandatory rap music in your schools.

  84. Corvinus says:
    @kerdasi amaq

    LOL. The Civil War was fought to preserve the Union because Southrons could not pick their own damn cotton.

    • Replies: @kerdasi amaq
  85. Corvinus says:
    @AceDeuce

    “No one is making them act like rabid chimps–it’s just their nature.”

    Just like these fine peeps.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1347167460613648393.html

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  86. @RadicalCenter

    I agree with everything you wrote. I am so accustomed to dealing with irrational Indians I am taken aback by a well thought out, rational response. As a pessimist to me there is no reason to fret over a fetus when life itself is such a misery. It’s like that routine by George Carlin- Conservative raise children to kill them for wars later or something similar. There are far more important issues going on in any state than to worry about abortions or gay marriages. Personally, I had a vasectomy and have no say in what others want to do in regards to family planning.

    On a philosophical perspective, this quote by Kubrick sums up my belief system:
    Man isn’t a noble savage, he’s an ignoble savage. He is irrational, brutal, weak, silly, unable to be objective about anything where his own interests are involved—that about sums it up. I’m interested in the brutal and violent nature of man because it’s a true picture of him. And any attempt to create social institutions on a false view of the nature of man is probably doomed to failure.

    Hence, savagery, pain and death is the cornerstone of mankind and killing unborn children is but one aspect of this.

    Anyway- agree with everything you wrote.

  87. @Corvinus

    >LOL. The Civil War was fought to preserve the Union because Southrons could not pick their own damn cotton.

    Learn some real American history so you don’t have to make lame and inept comments like these.

    The real reason for the war was this: the Southern States would not let Abe Lincoln collect Federal tariffs in their ports.

    BTW, How many northern states were not picking their own cotton, too?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  88. @RJ Macready

    Yes, there is. Anyway, if Jesus were to start preaching in St. Peter’s today; the Pope would run Him out of the place as a heretic.

    • Replies: @RJ Macready
  89. Corvinus says:
    @kerdasi amaq

    “The real reason for the war was this: the Southern States would not let Abe Lincoln collect Federal tariffs in their ports.”

    Not a “real” reason, but one of several factors. But the largest, of course, was to preserve the Union in light of the South’s insistence to fight for slavery.

  90. @kerdasi amaq

    “Yes, there is. Anyway, if Jesus were to start preaching in St. Peter’s today; the Pope would run Him out of the place as a heretic.”

    Which only furthers my belief that eventually all organizations or sects will go corrupt. They must and will. I have seen enough in Canada to realize they will pray and join hands and then backstab one another later. It’s HUMAN NATURE!!! The white man overcame this nature by rationality and implementing laws to some degree but faltered later.

    By the way please don’t think I am a hater of Christianity. Out of all the faiths it is perhaps the most rational. I think all religions are detrimental to society in the manner they are accustomed in society today.

    Keep it in your bedroom, have faith inside yourself, utilize it to assist your creativity. But for the love of God- keep it out of the state

  91. Jiminy says:

    A study that I read once said that it was great to see leaded petrol had been phased out. They were blaming the levels of youth delinquency on lead levels in the environment. Lead affects the brain causing mental retardation and behavioural disorders.
    Strangely though, even after more than two decades without super, the mental state of the negro today appears to be in a rapid decline. What is causing that is anyone’s guess. Maybe the young negroes are disturbing the absorbed lead in the soil as they are tilling it, while creating home vegetable gardens. Or maybe while involved in the home renovation industry, they are disturbing years worth of lead. Maybe baby negroes are chewing the window sills of their bedroom. Who knows.
    It is a quandary.

  92. TTSSYF says:
    @RJ Macready

    Can you please encourage them to be kind to animals?

  93. AceDeuce says:
    @Corvinus

    Who’d they kill? What did they burn and loot?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  94. Corvinus says:
    @AceDeuce

    They chimped out at the Capitol. I though you would have been there, as duty calls. Why did you chicken out?

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