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The inspiration for this article is a piece on the website, which I assume is the European version of our own center-left

The dehumanization of Europe is on the march.

Capitulating to populist anti-immigration politicians, European Union leaders are pulling up the drawbridge to migrants fleeing war, famine and poverty in Africa and the Middle East.

The cries of those drowning in the Mediterranean trying to reach Europe were drowned out at the EU summit last week by the sound of the Continent’s leaders washing their hands of the misfortune of asylum seekers to save their political skins.

[EU to migrants: Go home and stay home by Paul Taylor, July 3rd 2018.]

The subhead to the article is: “Fortress Europe hardens its heart.”

The body of the article is a breathless argument from the bleeding-heart Left that Europe’s leaders are abandoning their Open-Borders policy towards so-called “asylum seekers” and being led astray from the paths of righteousness by siren songs from populists of the “extreme right.”

But the comment thread to the article is almost uniformly hostile to author Taylor’s sentiments. [Email Paul Taylor.] The Europeans are waking up, and Open-Borders globalism has less and less of a market share. Globalist One-Worlders like this Politico writer are in retreat.

The parallel with the U.S.A. is obvious. It’s dawning on great numbers of people, here and in Europe, that unrestrained mass immigration into stable, developed societies like those of the U.S.A. and Europe, is a potential disaster for our civilizations.

Those of who have been saying this for twenty years and more are entitled to feel a sort of weary satisfaction, like the “premature antifascists” of eighty years ago. We were immigration patriots before immigration patriotism was cool.

A Reuters poll out this week shows immigration as the top issue now for fifteen percent of registered American voters, beating the economy at fourteen percent. Among registered Republicans, immigration is the top issue for 26 percent.

Some of those high percentages are of course people swept up in the anti-Trump hysteria over little toddlers supposedly ripped from their mothers’ arms and hurled into metal cages by heartless border guards. Most, though, I’m sure, are citizens waking up, as Europeans are waking up, to what suckers we have been for too long—the fools of the world—for giving free settlement in our countries to anyone from further south with a sob story.

This is a real big, accelerating swing in public attitudes—attitudes among ordinary, not very political, not very reflective people—in the West. The consequences of it will be historic in a major way.

I just said “the West,” but that isn’t really right. “The North” would actually be more accurate. All these population flows—blacks and Muslims into Europe, Central and South Americans into the U.S.A.—are from south to north. The barriers going up—or at least, that we are just now seriously thinking and talking about putting up—in Europe and the U.S.A. are barriers against south-north flows.

In my book We Are Doomed I used the phrase “Ice People” to refer to those populations whose deep history took place in northern Eurasia, as contrasted with Sun People, whose remote ancestors evolved closer to the equator. In terms of race, Ice People are the whites of Europe and European settler nations, together with the East Asians of China, Japan, Mongolia, Siberia, and Korea. Sun People are the rest.

The great population movements of our age, against which the barriers are beginning to go up, are of Sun People into Ice People territories.

Back in 2007 I wrote a column titled “The Arctic Alliance,” in which I argued that we Ice People, the whites and the yellows, with mean IQs higher than the world average but fertility rates lower, needed to join forces in the common interest of preserving our homelands against Camp of the Saints-style mass invasions by low-IQ, high-fertility Sun People.

(I’d better add here, for clarification, that I never intended my Arctic Alliance to be an Arctic Union. In my vision, the Ice People nations remain distinct nations, each with its own culture, proud of its own history, enforcing its own rules for crossing its own borders. I do not want the Ice People to merge into an EU-style bureaucratic superstate, with free movement across internal borders. I never liked that idea for Europe, and I don’t like it for Ice People at large. An alliance of independent sovereign nation-states, co-operating for common interests, not a union.)

Readers who emailed in with comments on that 2007 piece mostly scoffed at my idea for an Arctic Alliance. East Asians, they said, are robustly race realist, and have no intention of permitting settlement by floods of Sun People.

There is certainly something in that; but East Asians haven’t really been put to the test.

Perhaps they will be. In the strait that separates Japan from Korea is the island of Jeju, about the size of Maui. It belongs to South Korea, and its economy depends heavily on tourism. For reasons to do with that, it has a different visa policy from the rest of South Korea. Visitors from most countries—there is a short list of exceptions—can come to Jeju Island visa-free for thirty days.

That’s been causing problems recently. Here’s a story from the English-language version of Deutsche Welle, a German news outlet, June 26th this year, headline: South Koreans resist arrival of Yemeni asylum seekers. Some 950 foreign nationals, most of them from Yemen, took advantage of the no-visa policy to enter Jeju as tourists and then applied for refugee status.

A great many South Koreans are mad as hell about this. The Deutsche Welle story quotes a South Korean blog:

Politicians are reluctant to respond to the clear voices of the majority of people and the media also supports refugees. It is time to go out onto the streets and make our voices heard.

That reads like something from a European or U.S.A. blog. So perhaps I was on to something with my notion of an Arctic Alliance.


It may even be the case, if that South Korean blogger is right, that the local media over there, or some portion of it, is as suicidally ethnomasochistic as our own. Bad ideas are no respecters of national borders, nor even of major cultural boundaries—think of communism.

Could East Asia turn ethnomasochist? It seems inconceivable, but history is full of surprises.

For sure there is much more going on than is dreamed of in that Politico piece. “Fortress Europe”? The public sentiment that we see developing in Europe, the U.S.A., and perhaps South Korea is more like a desire for a Fortress North.

2010-12-24dl[1] John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includesNational Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by com:FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT(also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

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  1. drahthaar says:

    Watching illiterate, destitute (and creepily obsequious) Yemenis in NYC game a bleeding heart friend to help with a green card and handouts was repulsive. They are total liars and flatterers.

    I told her they were up to no good. She dropped me. Immigrants first, she believes, and every sob story makes her weep. Weeping for Yemenis makes her feel noble. It is the American and Christian thing to do. Women identical to her in thought and mission humorlessly and obediently staff the administrative state, especially its human resources and communications divisions.

    • Replies: @bartok
    , @Anonymous99
  2. For the historically illiterate, using the term “Fortress Europe” in the subheading of the article is, of course your daily not so subtle Nazi reference by the leftist press, since Hitler famously proclaimed his empire to be Festung Europa in 1943 because, obviously, any Europeans who want to limit, much less actually remove, the sweet, sweet benefits of vibrant diversity from European soil are just Nazis.

    • Replies: @Wally
  3. Alfa158 says:

    I hope this Taylor fellow isn’t just making up this “dehumanization of Europe” as a cruel tease before my hopes are dashed again. “So is it always with the dreams of men. The joys of all time flow away to the East” ( near as I can remember it).
    China should be OK at least for now. The people running the country don’t actively hate their own people and seem content to rule on the principle of; If Anyone is Going to Abuse Our People it’s Gonna be Us, Dadgummit.

  4. David JW says:

    This is just pro-Chinese cucking on a grand scale by Derbyshire, because he is married to a Chinese woman.

  5. Maybe it’s time to abandon the Stop Immigration gear and shift into the Start Expulsion gear. Is it unimaginable for the US or a European country to announce something like this: For many decades we handed out citizenship in a reckless, irresponsible way. We had a lot of good intentions, but the clear evidence now shows that we’re headed for big, big trouble unless we turn around. We hate to renege, but the alternative is civil war, in one form or another. Therefore, now that we’ve expelled all illegal immigrants, we are annulling all nationalizations made over the past five (or ten or twenty) years. We recognize that this will mean hardship for many individuals and families. But we flatter ourselves that when you return to your home country you will bring the benefits of your experience here. You will be the seed corn for better relations between our countries. America: Love It and Leave It.

  6. pyrrhus says:

    Immigration isn’t a “potential” disaster, it’s just a here and now disaster…Now a move to legalize illegals voting…
    Of course, illegals are already voting by the millions in some States, pushing all the Western States toward blue status…

  7. @David JW

    Exactly. Derbyshire also has Chinese offspring. Derbyshire stated that “In terms of race, Ice People are the whites of Europe and European settler nations, together with the East Asians of China, Japan, Mongolia, Siberia, and Korea. Sun People are the rest.” No.

    The Japanese are the only intelligent Asians. I could give the term Ice People to the Japanese, but not to any other Asians. The rest of the Asians are Sun People. His Chinese woman is brown.

    Derbyshire doomed himself when he married the Chinese woman and had Chinese offspring. He’s been trying to get back into the good graces of the West. It’s not going to happen.

  8. m___ says:

    The whole of the article. Two questions arize: What are we talking about when quantified.

    As a first. What is the percentage as to total population of immigrants(say three, two, a single generation) in the EU, in EU countries specifically. In the US.

    As a reference to a worst case scenario, let’s keep in mind what less then two percent of the population(Jews) managed in the US in corrupting and buying out Wasp elites over a hundred years.

    Secondly. What is the percentage of the “new” per year immigrants over every single year since the 1960’s. Again compare to total population. In the US, in the EU, in every single North Western European country.

    These should be data not too hard to come by and put things into perspective. Our hunch, it is not so much immigration, low or high grade, but ineptitudes of the ruling elites to come up with sustainable policies globally which causes displacements. Muslim breeding wars are top down consignments of low grade populations by their elites as an example. EU rule is short term indecision and bickering as to long term goals as another. US bombing campaigns, and exhausting resources policy to feed an unsustainable economy as yet another. Propaganda(we slyly call it advertizing), …and on.

    In the end, concerning populations, it is all about quality at the top, and low total numbers of global populations at the bottom that concerns migrations. If migrations need to be tuned, then the core is global population numbers, and systemic mismanagement that causes them. “Immigration” is a consequence not a cause.

    • Replies: @artichoke
  9. My dear Mr. Derbyshire: “Fortress Europe”? Really? You couldn’t come up with something different from the late Austrian paperhanger’s Festung Europa? It’s one thing to observe and acknowledge the frequency of valid examples of Godwin’s Law, but inviting its conclusion to instantaneity seems to me to make not much sense. You’re ordinarily a finer rhetorical sharpshooter, Mr. Derbyshire, in using backsight to gain a clear picture of foresight.

    Then there’s “[U]restrained mass immigration into stable, developed societies like those of the U.S.A. and Europe, is a potential disaster for our civilizations.” Oh, dear, there’s nothing “potential” about it – it’s been unmistakably a very real multidimensional disaster not just for the present, but for a foreseeable grim future all the more lamentable for its having been obviously and commonsensically avoidable.

    • Replies: @Fluesterwitz
    , @Paw
  10. @Auntie Analogue

    ”The subhead to the article is: ‘Fortress Europe hardens its heart.” I.e., it was Taylor’s editor who put in the reference.
    Btw, ‘Goodwin’s Law’ is a quip that takes the form of a predictive scientific law, not a “Thou shalt not take the Führer’s name in vain” kind of commandment.

  11. I know that this will shock everyone here, but Paul Taylor is Jewish.

    Every. Single. Time.

    Here he is a different article arguing nonsense about Brexit.

    But where Goodhart gets people like me wrong is when he suggests we are so globalized that we no longer believe in society.

    To the contrary, I have an enduring feeling of solidarity with the working-class communities in my home region that were gutted by the death of the coal, steel and shipbuilding industries mostly before Britain joined the EU, and whose children did not get the same educational and economic opportunities that I enjoyed.

    But I believe their prospects lie in education, skills training and targeted public investment, not in shutting borders, restricting trade or leaving the EU.

    Yes, what could be better for working-class whites in England than opening the border to third world immigrants who will lower wages, increase crime, change everything about the whites’ neighborhoods and rape their daughters.

    Then Taylor goes on – and on and on – about how much his fellows Jews contributed to England and how they were rewarded with, yes, anti-semitism. Remember, Jews goods, gentiles bad. He even proves Sailer correct yet again by complaining about his ancestors not getting into a country club. Golfocaust strikes again!

    They made a rapid contribution to Britain in business, medicine, the law and academe. Post-war British meritocracy gave them plenty of opportunity. My uncle, whose mother was born in Lithuania to a family of rabbis, became Lord Chief Justice of England. My father was a solicitor who also chaired the Newcastle Health Authority. His father and sister were doctors.

    They also encountered British anti-Semitism. My mother’s maiden name was Cohen. When she applied to join a tennis club in the early 1950s, she was told there was a long waiting list. When she married my father shortly afterward and reapplied as Mrs. Taylor, the waiting list had miraculously disappeared. Several local golf clubs didn’t admit Jews.

    Yep, that’s Jews. They want to be allowed to both completely separate and completely accepted at the some time.

    Taylor then mentioned that France, where he lives now and where he is applying to become a citizen – because, you know, he has such loyalty to Britain – is, of course, also bigoted and anti-semetic. Remember Jews, no matter where you go, the goy is out to get you.

    France, my prospective new motherland, also has its share of nationalism, anti-immigrant bigotry and anti-Semitism, some of it violent. More Jews are leaving France out of fear for their safety than are seeking citizenship to settle here.

    Hmmm. And just who is committing that those crimes against French Jews, Mr. Taylor? Naturally, he doesn’t answer that question; he just leaves you to think that it’s a bunch of blond Frenchmen.

    Why do gentile whites listen to guys like this?

  12. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s hard to tell the fancy Asians (Japanese, Korean, Chinese) apart. Even some jungle Asians, specifically Vietnamese, with a lot of Chinese genes can look like like a fancy Asian.

    Take this quiz to see how good you are at telling fancy Asians apart. They’re all beautiful, btw.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Medvedev
  13. Patricus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Most Gentile white guys don’t listen to people like Mr. Taylor. You might have noticed all the Jewish owned media are going out of business in the US. Don’t know about most people but I almost never watch the products of Hollywood. If I start on a movie I usually turn it off within 15 minutes. Whatever mastery of these industries Jews might have, they have no influence if these are ignored. I have nothing against Jews and appreciate those that think, more or less, as I do and a good number meet that criteria. Sometimes I mistakenly ignore some piece by a Jew just because he is a Jew, not out of antiSemitism but just because of laziness. I assume it will be the same globalist claptrap.

    Jews aren’t the only ideological idiots. There is plenty of that among Christians and others. Self loathing is an aspect of our Western civilization. I predict it won’t continue much longer.

    • Replies: @WHAT
    , @Medvedev
  14. @Anonymous

    You have Asian yellow fever. You’re a terminal case.

  15. bartok says:

    Report her to ICE for green card fraud.

    Don’t worry, women don’t get real prison time.

  16. Anon 2 says:

    With his dubious claim that the Chinese are Ice People Mr. Derbyshire reveals
    that geography was not his strong suit in school (compared to math).

    The most obvious fact about China’s geography as compared to that of
    Europe is that China is much much farther south. Examples:

    Hong Kong 22°N (just south of Tropic of Cancer!)
    Shanghai 31°N
    Beijing 39°N

    The greatest scientific discoveries in Europe were made much farther north

    Copernicus, N. Poland 56°N
    Galileo, N. Italy 44°N
    Newton, Cambridge 52°N

    Even the origins of science in Europe, which can be traced to Miletus (37°N) in ancient
    Ionia, are associated with a location much farther north than most of China. Thales
    and Leucippus, originator of the atomic theory, are said to have lived in Miletus.

    Hence the vast majority of the Chinese are definitely Sun people. This partly
    explains their few achievements, despite their long history and large population.
    The Chinese strike me more as analogous to the Middle Eastern people in their
    behavior – both groups are emotional and superstitious, i.e., displaying traits
    associated with the southern races.

  17. “This is a real big, accelerating swing in public attitudes — attitudes among ordinary, not very political, not very reflective people — in the West.”

    The sleepers awake. Speaking as an Ice Person with a middling IQ, I can only hope this is true.

  18. myself says:
    @Anon 2

    both groups are emotional and superstitious

    Superstitious? YES.

    Emotional? NO.

    No, the Chinese are almost NEVER emotional. In my direct experience, cold, formal, and reserved, actually. Very calm and self-controlled, unless you’re talking about a Cantonese funeral. Then, they may show emotion.

    Cantonese are the one group in China that I’ve seen express any emotion, and yet not all of them do.

    • Replies: @Anon 2
    , @anon
    , @prusmc
  19. @Tono Bungay

    Absolutely! It was nothing more than crude imperialism for the West to siphon off the best and the brightest from the Third World and use them to enrich our soulless, non-productive societies. The sooner these paragons of excellence return to their point of origin, the sooner they can make their glorious homelands bloom like a rose.

    Just like Liberia.

  20. Anon 2 says:

    I recommend the article, “A color-coded map of the world’s most and least emotional countries (Wash. Post, Nov. 28, 2012). Indeed, according to the article, the Americans, Canadians, and Scandinavians are more emotional than the Chinese. However, I myself , come from a northern stoic country – from my cultural viewpoint the Chinese don’t strike me as unemotional. My observations mostly concern Chinese Americans, incl. adolescents and working class people, e.g., in Chinese restaurants. Very unimpressive – a lot of angry yelling and rude behavior toward the customers. My impression is that the behavior of the Chinese-Americans has deteriorated in the last 20-30 years. Now that China is a superpower, the Chinese feel they no longer have to be nice toward whites. I haven’t observed a similar deterioration in the behavior of the Japanese-Americans. Compared to the Chinese, the Japanese are always a pleasure to interact with. A truly superior civilization.

  21. @Anon 2

    Chinese are nothing like Arabs, I knew both in Dubai.

  22. @Anon 2

    A Norwegian banker or engineer in Washington cannot be compared to a rough-as-hell Finn from the bad part of Minneapolis either.

    Presumably, the Asians who are now in the US recently are the more skilled business entrepreneurs and technicians as oppose to being descended from the founding pig-tail and prostitute Chinese stock from the railways.

  23. @Anon 2

    I would hardly call Asians unemotional. My observations suggest to me that while Asians often are not extroverts, they do have a tendency towards “excitability.” The will get extremely energetic and amped up about things, sometimes seemingly at random. It’s like watching a flock of geese on a lake. They all seem to be serenely paddling along, and then for no particular reason one of the geese will start honking hysterically and beating the water with his wings. If you hang around with Asians a lot you can’t help but notice these bursts of activity. I think this is partly the cause of their reputation for being smart. Once something catches their interest, they will discover everything about it in a flash and carry it to the extreme. Ergo, video games, ping-pong, gambling, and machinery really get them going.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  24. anon[115] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon 2

    The Japanese are like the Germans: reserved, orderly, honest.

    The Koreans are like the Russians: cold, rude, dishonest.

    The Chinese are like the Italians: loud, rude, disorderly, dishonest.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    , @utu
    , @WHAT
    , @Ragno
  25. anon[115] • Disclaimer says:

    We can all thank Bill Gates for the current African invasion of Europe. All those African babies he’s been saving for the last 20 years through his philanthropy are now all grown up and needing jobs, and Bill Gates has no answer for them.

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
    • Replies: @jilles dykstra
  26. anon[115] • Disclaimer says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I know that this will shock everyone here, but Paul Taylor is Jewish.

    Every. Single. Time.

    Yep. Never fails.

  27. anon[115] • Disclaimer says:

    Cantonese are the one group in China that I’ve seen express any emotion, and yet not all of them do.

    Like all those people in the Manhattan Chinatown, noisy, loud, rude, annoying as heck. Every single one of them needs to be shipped back to Canton, China. Cantonese is the most hideous sounding language on earth.

    Those mandarin speaking recent arrivals are just loud, rude and annoying, not to mention all are corrupt, either corrupt government officials who took bribes or corrupt businesmen who gave bribes, so they can get away with their polluting factories, poisoning their fellow countrymen while they and their family escape to greener pastures. Time to kill the EB5 and send them all packing.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
  28. Biff says:
    @Anon 2

    I live in East Asia, and the unwritten rule is don’t show your emotions in public. It’s on par with showing your genitalia in public – they just don’t do it.

  29. @David JW


    Why is Hong Kong safer than Los Angeles, Detroit or any other major US city?

    Why is Tokyo safer than Atlanta or Miami?

    If the East is a cesspool?

    • Replies: @David JW
  30. Rogue says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Golfocaust lol.

    Golfocaust is a very serious matter. But for Golfocaust we might have had a Tiger Woodstein decades ago!

    The old movie Caddyshack, and it’s appallingly bad sequel, seem clearly to have been motivated by the horrors of Golfocaust.

    I give the first one a pass as it was a pretty good movie – and Rodney Dangerfield was genuinely funny.

  31. @attilathehen

    Ice people and the Native Americans.

    I lived in Northern Ontario and yet the Native Americans are primitive and unintelligent as dirt. They look really Asian. But they are horribly base and I’d say that the Native Americans in Canada are actually worse than the ones in the United States.

    So why are the Native Americans like this if they evolved in the Ice?

    Also, why do Aztecs and Central American Native Americans not look Asian? They look more Polynesian or something.

  32. @anon

    North-South Analogy

    Just as in Europe, the further South you go in Asia you see more dishonesty, corruption, folly, idiocy, nepotism, poverty.

    The difference between Japan and Philippines is the difference between Finland and Malta on steroids.

    As for Koreans being like Russians, considering they are IN Russia or on the border of it, this does not surprise me.

    People forget the Soviet ancestry of Manchurian Chinese either. These are not REAL Chinese but some Russian tribe from the Taiga.

    As for Chinese being like Italians, I’d say that is only true of Cantonese.

    And Fuji Chinese are the Jews of Asia who are equally loathed and resented in Southeast Asia, with the same results in Indonesia as Russian pogroms.

    • Replies: @Respect
    , @Wally
  33. utu says:

    The Japanese are like the Germans: reserved, orderly, honest.

    The Koreans are like the Russians: cold, rude, dishonest.

    The Chinese are like the Italians: loud, rude, disorderly, dishonest.

  34. @Intelligent Dasein

    Asian “outbursts” are similar to the Asberger’s Syndrome that mass shooters often have. Asian intelligence veers towards the Left-Brained and their right brain is somewhat shrunken so they have difficulties with empathy, communication, verbal dexterity…unlike the Sasha Cohen whose going to put these qualities to some distasteful purpose by pretending to be a whigger during interviews in order to make others look stupid, Asian men are more likely to have some outburst of violence because they have difficulty controlling/understanding their emotions.

    This is why Asian violence tends to be some weird motiveless outburst like the bus attack in Canada or the odd shooting on campus like Virginia Tech or Elliot Rodgers.

    There is also the incel aspect of the conundrum. Asian males have a small penis and little charm so approaching women is difficult and marriages tend to be arranged or order through familial involvement-whereas the black or white man has massive masculine charisma and often a John Holmes-sized member to pull the girls.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  35. WHAT says:

    It`s not “white guys” in general, but specifically boomers shrinking in number. Generations that grew up with the internet have no attachement to some talking head on TV or newspaper jew.

  36. WHAT says:


    Spotted the eternally buttchafed anglo that knows no russian kek.

    And then there is some next level lol to be had with oh so honest japs. I guess anglo can`t into honne-tatemae as well.

  37. Wally says:
    @Shingas the Terrible

    Of course all of this ‘Nazi this, Nazi that’ nonsense is rapidly losing steam since:

    So many people are finding out that the ‘Nazis’ simply did not do, could not have done what is absurdly alleged . A case of science over an infantile, crude, yet heretofore very profitable religion, aka: the preposterous & easily refuted ‘holocaust’.

    It’s really no contest in a debate with informed Revisionists. Hence we see laws to prevent that debate, and we witness persecution & attacks on those who engage in free speech about it. It simply cannot withstand scrutiny at any level and the truth is rapidly emerging.

    Even for those who still try to believe in the ‘6M Jews & gas chambers’ religion, the use of the word ‘Nazi’ has been so degraded by over use that they just blow it off.

    Lot’s more here:

  38. David JW says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Clown! No one said the East is a cesspool. The Chinese are not Europeans and should not be inveigled into white identity via the Arctic cuck meme.

    • Replies: @myself
  39. Medvedev says:

    6 out of 10
    Problems with most photos:
    1. Too much make up
    2. Photoshop to a degree where it’s hard too tell how the original gal looked like
    3. Few Koreans look like Japanese. Usually Koreans have cheeks/jaws and are distinguishable from Japanese. But plastic surgeries are really popular in Korea .. often they make facial features nicer, softer and eyes wider. Only because it’s fancy.

    • Replies: @james wilson
  40. The word Gutmensch is German.
    Germany is full of them, they want an ‘open society’, human rights.
    In reaction to article again about human rights I asked if it is not a human right wanting to protect one’s society and culture.
    No reply.

  41. Medvedev says:

    Average American watches TV 5 hours a day 🙂

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Talleyrand
  42. @anon

    How ‘no answer’ ?
    The thought did not cross anybody’s mind that the mass immigration is the intention ?

  43. Medvedev says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    my prospective new motherland

    This is so disgusting it almost makes me sick. Could it be a reason for cold feelings towards Jews in the past? Englishman has no other Motherland, if he loses it there is no more Motherland. Same for Frenchman, for Russian or Polish. Granted, they may move to other White country while one still exist and their children will forget the language of their ancestors and integrate and assimilate into society. Like Russian emigrees fleeing bolsheviks in France.

    But Jews are different, they don’t care about goyim, they don’t care about ‘prospective motherland” be it England, France, USA or any other country (with exception of Israel). Jews will use it to their advantage as long as it benefits them, spreading venom and hatred towards the society that hosts them. Then they will move to greener pastures and new ‘prospective motherland’.

    * – by Jews I mean most Jews like Taylor, not all Jews.

  44. utu says:

    Festung Europa macht die Grenzen dicht

  45. Realist says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    So why are the Native Americans like this if they evolved in the Ice?

    It is not clear where ‘Native American’ evolved.

  46. Realist says:

    Han Chinese make up 92 % of the mainland population. Han Chinese ancestors arose in Northern China making them, for the most part, Ice people

    • Replies: @Realist
  47. Realist says:

    There is more to climate than latitude. The climate in England is much milder than that in northern and northwestern China, plus the Han Chinese of northern China were probably intermixed with Mongolian tribes.

    • Replies: @myself
  48. @Anon 2

    You have to take into account class & culture. A Confucian-Daoist-Buddhist gentleman or educated peasant are something very different from head-chopping & cannibalistic primitive who mentally belongs to the early Bronze Age (of course, there are exceptions, but…).

  49. TheOldOne says:

    Remember that, to Mr. Derbyshire, we’re all latrine flies here.

    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
  50. @Wally

    Full disclosure regarding my feelings about Nazis:

    I was the willing object of a Nazi medical experiment devised by one of their orthopedic surgeons in the 1940s. The enterprising Dr. Kunstler created a revolutionary method to stabilize femur fractures by inserting a metal rod down into the center of the femur. This lowered the attrition rate of soldiers who were out of action due to broken legs. After what became known as “the Kunstler nail” was inserted in their leg, they could be sent back to the front in a week.

    I had this operation done in 1980, a time when orthopedics across the US warned me it was too dangerous and experimental, even though it is a common procedure now. Due to the damage that had been incurred by a head-on collision with a drunk driver, I eventually ended up having both legs done.

    The naysayers were wrong. I not only walked again, but spent several decades as an avid jogger, and avoided the crippling scoliosis that is common with dramatically uneven femur length.

    Sorry Jews, but every time I hear the word Nazi I get a warm fuzzy feeling inside that I recognize as gratitude. I thank them every single day for the miracle of walking.

    • Replies: @Wally
  51. myself says:
    @David JW

    The Chinese are not Europeans and should not be inveigled into white identity via the Arctic cuck meme

    And indeed, the Chinese would heartily agree – the Chinese, do not want to be European, American, other varieties of Asian, African or anything else than what they already are.

    These other nationalities, in the Chinese mind, have their own homelands, their own ways and their own lives. To be lumped in with other races would strike them as, well . . . . just impossible to imagine. It just never really crosses their minds. (In my experience.)

    If you want to go about asking Chinese to give up that most cherished thing, their IDENTITY, which they’ve had for literally four millennia – good luck with that!

  52. @drahthaar

    I’m American, and I spent thirty years in Los Angeles. The first week I moved there I was asked numerous times by people I just met if I needed a green card, license, or social security card. I was told there was a guy on Alvarado street who sold these for $35 each, although I’m sure they cost much more these days.

    During my thirty years there, I amassed a total of two American friends. All the other friends/colleagues I knew were illegal foreigners who simply flew into LA and stayed. The city was composed of Kurdish Muslims, Belgians, French, Chinese, Africans, Iranians, etc.

    I know what Gore Vidal meant when he said California wasn’t part of America.

  53. @Anon 2

    What is current thinking about the evolution and fixing of the epicanthic fold in East Asian people? Was/is it not supposed to be an adaptation to cold dry climates? Maybe also deserts?

  54. @Tono Bungay

    My guess is that the American Constitution wouldn’t allow it even if it were politically possible. Does anyone know the case law (if there is any) on depriving people of citizenship? My (more confident) guess is that citizens by naturalization could be deprived of citizenship if and only if they had achieved citizenship by fraud at some stage of the process which would include those who lied about their membership of the SS in order to get a US Visa.

  55. @Medvedev

    True, but this is where I argue that Jews (yes, I realize that we’re talking mostly about Jewish elites but if Jewish rank-and-file don’t show much resistance to what their elites are doing) are pushing things to the point where it’s actually “bad for the Jews.”

    They’re killing their hosts, which isn’t a good strategy for a parasite. A Western Europe that’s 20% Muslim – and if you look at the demographics of children being born, we’re not that far off from that figure – is not “Good for the Jews.” If current trends don’t stop, Jews will not be welcome in a future Western Europe, nor will Israel.

    Eastern Europe, having seen what happened to Western Europe, also will not want Jews.

    The United States will rapidly turn into some form of Brazil. Hispanics, NE Asians, blacks, and South Asians don’t care about Jews and the Holocaust. Just another white thing. Jews will be seen as the other by those groups, either for being Jewish or being white. Also, you may have noticed that Brazil doesn’t exactly project a lot of military power around the world. A second-world Brazil of the North will not have the resources nor the desire to fight Israel’s wars. All of this is not “Good for the Jews.”

    Sure, you say, Jews will just move on to Asia. Maybe. But Asians, correctly, don’t like immigrants, so not sure how many Jews will be allowed to live there. In addition, Asians will never accept Jews, nor will they listen to them. The Japanese never let outsiders control anything important in their country. Never. Jews won’t control their media, academia and government. I don’t care how rich Jews in Asia (assuming that they’re allowed in) become, they will be merchants and nothing more.

    As usual, Jews are overplaying their hand. But this time, they are destroying their hosts. Jews are stupid to turn Europe against them, the United States into a second-rate power more fixated on keeping the lid on its various internal factions than protecting Israel and leaving Israel isolated and alone.

    Taylor may be able to flee to Israel, but he and his kind will have hurt Jews in the long run.

    Of course, I don’t care. I care about my people. We’re all Jews now. On every issue, my single, simple question becomes “Is it good for Whites?”

    • Replies: @Anonymous Jew
  56. utu says:
    @Anon 2

    I myself , come from a northern stoic country . – Do you really think that Poland comes across as stoic?

  57. myself says:

    plus the Han Chinese of northern China were probably intermixed with Mongolian tribes

    EXTREMELY INTERMIXED, almost ethnically indistinguishable, starting about the 8th century BC and the coming of the first wars with the Hsiung-Nu.

    Here’s an interesting statistic: something like 1 out of 8 Han Chinese can trace descent, however distant, to a male of the clan of Temujin. 1 in 8 across a vast population. And that is only ONE source out of the constant admixture going back to before the time of Lao-Zi, or that of Cyrus the Great.
    Not just in the northern part of China, also in the central part, since nomad hordes would reach all the way to the Yangtze river and a little beyond.

    Also, note that huge Imperial armies would launch vigorous counter-offensives deep into nomad lands, sometimes reaching the shores of Lake Baikal. Han soldiers would then garrison the frontier, often becoming assimilated into the steppes over time – closely analogous to Roman soldiers who settled in distant lands.

    • Replies: @Jim Delano
  58. @Wally

    I’m happy you got to beat your revisionist drum, but that’s not germane to the topic at hand.

    The Nazi meme is powering down simply because it is rapidly fading from living memory as the European catastrophe, and it has become less powerful from overuse, similarly to “racist”, “homophobia” and “intolerance”. That’s exactly the point I was making in my original comment.

    Using everything as a launching point into a diatribe about Holocaust revisionism isn’t a good look.

    • Replies: @Wally
  59. Ragno says:


    The Japanese are like the Germans: reserved, orderly, honest.

    The Koreans are like the Russians: cold, rude, dishonest.

    The Chinese are like the Italians: loud, rude, disorderly, dishonest.

    Okay, contestants: for $5000, the trip to Maui and the dinette set…. let’s try and guess the ethnic parentage of commenter Anon-115!

  60. Mr. Derbyshire is dreaming. The East Asians are smarter than whites, and know it, as well as very racially conscios and nationalisitc. Look at their academic performance in the US. Why would they want an alliance with an inferior race?

  61. Johnny Limey is cooking up some fantastic schemes in cahoots with his grand daughter age, China doll… what a treat! Is there any room for more people in the sardine-can Japan? How about let-me-steal Tibet because the Han don’t know when to put the little pecker in, yellow-ice, China? What the devil are you talking about perfidious Albion? And while we are at it, where do your masters, the Jews fit into your bizarre Ice Peoples and Sun Peoples scheme? Do you really think that the Polish-German Jew is going to cut loose the swarthy Yemeni one? And there in lies the difference between erudition and nonsense, plain and simple!

    • Replies: @denk
  62. TG says:

    Here’s a thought: this ‘invasion’ of the north by the south is only possible because of vitamin-D enriched foods.

    If civilization collapses (a big “if”: I hope not) and enriching food with vitamins goes by the wayside, then slowly over the generations this ‘invasion’ will be reversed: though it would take a long time and really nobody would enjoy it. Not advocating this. Just thinking out loud. Funny how seemingly small technical advances can ultimately have massive global consequences, although we have so taken this for granted that we have stopped to think about it.

    Going from a meat-rich diet to a more vegan one would also tend to have this effect, although less powerfully.

  63. @anon

    Like all those people in the Manhattan Chinatown, noisy, loud, rude, annoying as heck.

    You forgot FILTHY. In fact, that’s by far the strongest association in my memory. You want to throw away your clothes and shoes after walking through the damn place.

  64. The first thing to remember is that, whatever may the views of this or that European leader, the EU has never had an “open borders policy”, however Mr Derbyshire may define that concept. The Member States have never at any time delegated powers to the EU institutions in regard to migration/immigration, which thus remains under the full control of the sovereign Member States. Equally, I have no idea what “globalism” means but the EU has never liked globalised free trade, rammed down the world’s throats by the US and which Trump is continuing, in his own flat-footed and bullying way, to try to ram down the throats of a reluctant world via trade sanctions. The underlying concept of the EU has always been Fortress Europe, a large internal market protected by a high external tariff, and the more damage Trump does to US standing in the world, the more he helps the EU return to its preferred system. Thirdly, I have no idea what distinction Mr Derbyshire is drawing between what he calls “an alliance of independent sovereign nation-states, co-operating for common interests” and a “union”. “An alliance of independent sovereign nation-states, co-operating for common interests” sounds to me like a prefect description of the EU as I have known it for all of my life. The nation-state has been the fundamental building block of the European polity ever since the French Revolution, although I would concede that not all EU Member States have yet become nation-states. To take an example at random (!), the UK is not a nation-state, with at least five indigenous nations inhabiting its territory. Similarly, the desire of Catalans to break away from the multi-ethnic Spanish state and establish a sovereign nation-state for themselves is in the same tradition of European nationalism as Scottish, Irish, Corsican or Ukrainian nationalism. Moreover, I don’t really see what Asians have to do with any of this. They have their own civilisation, which functions in the way they want it to. Equally, European nationalism is utterly impossible on the American continent. People of European descent are colonists there whereas we in Europe are the indigenous peoples of our respective territories. We’re the Indians, not the cowboys! Thus, Mr Derbyshire’s article appears to my European eyes to be fairly incoherent.

    • Replies: @Beckow
  65. Wally says:
    @Shingas the Terrible

    Yet you originally said:

    “For the historically illiterate, using the term “Fortress Europe” in the subheading of the article is, of course your daily not so subtle Nazi reference by the leftist press, since Hitler famously proclaimed his empire to be Festung Europa in 1943 because, obviously, any Europeans who want to limit, much less actually remove, the sweet, sweet benefits of vibrant diversity from European soil are just Nazis.

    I was spot on to your post. It was you who mentioned the laughable obsession with things ‘Nazi’.

    And I see you essentially agree with my 2nd point, try reading it.

    I know, you know, everyone knows that referring to someone or something as ‘Nazi’ is direct reference to the fake ‘6M’. If you are labeled ‘a Nazi / neo-Nazi’ by Jews or the left you are then a ‘potential mass murderer’. Creating that Zionist / leftist tool was the purpose of manufacturing the phony 6M in the first place.

    I merely RESPOND to what is posted. And what is repeatedly, endlessly posted are references to the impossible ‘holocaust’. A review of all my posts back that up.

    Besides, you are fooling no one. What you are really doing is advocating for censorship of my responses. and ‘holocaust’ Revisionism in general at this site.

  66. Respect says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Well , in Europe the most corrupt people are the farisaic protestants of northwestern europe .

    We southern europeans do not feel superior – or inferior – to other peoples . While the blockhead farisaic antisocial puritans protestants of north europe have the cumpulsion to declare that they are superior to anyone on earth ( Poor people , they must have a horrible inferiority complex )

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  67. @Frederick V. Reed

    Regardless of the intellectual merits of whites, why would anyone want to ally with a group that doesn’t much seem to like itself?

    Regarding NE Asian and European IQ, the mystery has always been why have NE Asian scientific discoveries been so low relative to whites? Perhaps it was fluke of history, i.e. whites got lucky with the industrial revolution and were able to grab a lot of low hanging fruit. I don’t know, but it does seem odd.

    I know that Asia is spitting out patents at a remarkable rate, but not sure if that is quantity or quality. Maybe both.

    Either way, Asia is rapidly reaching the point where the West could fall into disarray, and the Asian nations would be just fine. They’d trade amongst themselves, economies would grow and their lives would be quite nice. It does feel as though the baton is being passed from European peoples to East Asian peoples.

    Maybe it’s 455 again, with the West being overrun while the East continues to flourish for a thousand years.

    • Agree: Anonymous Jew
  68. Bruno says:

    That’s completely false. Demographics trends are exactly the same . Bangladesh went from 6.7 to 2.1, Bahrain from 7.1 to 2, Brazil from 6.1 to 1.7, China from 5.7 to 1.6, Grenada from 6.7 to 2.1, Hong Kong from 5 to 1.2, Korea from 6.1 to 1.2, Libya from 7.2 to 2.3, Mexico from 6.8 to 2.3, Mongolia from 7 to 2.8 , St Lucia from 7 to 1.5.

    Rich countries have less kids. All countries getting richer get less kids independently of race . Religion influence is moderate Ireland is at 1.9 like Qatar . Arab word went from 6.9 to 3.3. The poorest countries are at 4.1.

    Your theory doesn’t work in terms of fertility .

  69. Tulips says:

    If Europeans and Americans do not like refugees, then they should stop making refugees. It is not a good idea to turn nearby nations into war zones, failed states and corrupted economies. And when you do, then you will get refugees. It should be obvious.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Anonymous Jew
  70. Beckow says:
    @Michael Kenny

    EU has never had an “open borders policy”

    Having an actual declared policy might be preferable. What EU has is a lack of enforcement of borders and permissive standards for allowing any migrant to stay. It varies country by country and over time, but the EU-Brussels has consistently pushed against any border or migration enforcement. Plus, you have events like the 2015 Merkel ‘come on all in‘ without coordinating with anyone else.

    They are intentionally hiding the policy. ‘You see what they want by what they do‘ applies. Of course, they will deny it – as you do – because it is extremely unpopular.

    I agree about trade policy, EU has been mostly dragged screaming into the global open trade. In that case, it is more a result EU’s weakness, not what they want.

  71. Wally says:
    @Jeff Stryker


    According Thor Heyerdahl’s theory, the Polynesians are essentially pre-Incan Peruvians who came across a prevailing current and settled Polynesian.

    The archaeological evidence looks compelling, IMO.

    Central Americans certainly do look Asian derived, with obvious changes over time.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @AnotherDad
  72. Wally says:
    @Jeff Stryker


    Having traveled extensively throughout Japan I can tell you that the Koreans are considered the Jews of Asia. In casual conversations, the Japanese have few qualms about openly stating it just like that.

    But true enough, the Chinese are generally resented by the S. Pacific islands people.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  73. cecil1 says:

    The only hardness of heart is the cruelty and indifference to the future of Whites and their nations.

    They don’t give a damn about that, in fact they want it destroyed.

    That’s evil.

    Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White countries for Everyone IS White Genocide.

    1. White people exist. 2. White people have the RIGHT to exist. 3. White people have the RIGHT to exist AS White people in White Communities and Nations.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  74. Wally says:

    Indeed. German medical advances (and treatment of Jews who would never be able to work* with those advances) were quite remarkable.

    * The narrative states that the ‘Germans killed all those to young, too old, or physically unable to work upon arrival in the “death camps”.

    see many examples here:
    High Frequency Delousing Facilities at Auschwitz / German ‘Microwave’ Technology to Combat Typhus / and much more :

  75. Wally says:

    Yet the vast majority of these fake “refugees’ are easily shown not to be victims of those claims.
    Hence one of the prime reasons why they typically ‘lose’ their national IDs, passports, etc.

    If they really were desperate victims they would simply go the nearest country for safe haven. They do not. They go great distances to where they think they can get a free ride.

    • Replies: @Joe Wong
  76. @Jeff Stryker

    Read “The 10,000 Year Explosion” by Cochran and Harpending. They make a good case that agriculture creates selective pressures for intelligence and cooperation. The book both counters and dovetails with Diamond’s infamous “Guns, Germs and Steel”.

    Worldwide, it appears that the most intelligent peoples/races are those with an evolutionary history of both cold AND agriculture. For example, the Eskimos/Inuit are the most intelligent hunter-gatherers, but not as intelligent as the Japanese and probably comparable to SE Asians. The least intelligent are those that were isolated from the Ice Age and never adopted agriculture: Black hunter-gatherers like the Pygmies and the Australoids of Australia/SE Asia.

    I just looked up indigenous Aztecs and they look like Jungle Asians to me. On a side note, apparently a small amount of Austronesian/PI DNA has been found in some tribes in S America. Didn’t save the source so correct me if I’m wrong.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @Jeff Stryker
  77. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Hey, you’ve got to give this publication credit for picking one with a gentile-sounding last name. That aside, couldn’t the Post and the Times find some more gentile journalists who will faithfully toe the party line, just to make it seem less obvious? It’s almost like they want us to know.

  78. annamaria says:

    “Derbyshire doomed himself when he married the Chinese woman and had Chinese offspring.”
    — Is this a “Christian” was to be envious of a higher IQ among Asians? Why so much hatred? Or this is a hatred-in-Jesus?
    Have you given a thought about Cheney’s and Bush’ offspring? Or about the pious Blair’s offspring? The daddies are big-time criminals guilty of the mass slaughter of civilian populations including a multitude of children and pregnant women.
    At least, some in the US Christian community have rebelled against Bush the lesser. But Blairs the Catholics (the acknowledged mega-war profiteers) have not been touched by Pope or their British co-religionists.

    • Replies: @annamaria
    , @attilathehen
  79. annamaria says:

    correcting a typo: “Christian” ways

  80. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    It’s bad for everybody. It’s even bad for Mexicans – after all they were trying to escape Mexico. The elites get economic advantages, but if they suddenly accepted the reality of innate racial differences they too would have to reconsider the cost-benefit analysis of the current migrant invasion of the West.

    Jewish left-leaning elites are just like other left-leaning elites, and Jewish leftists are just like other leftists. The obvious difference being that approximately 80% of Jews (including Jewish elites) are globalists/leftists, while among Whites it’s probably only 40% of the population. As an analogy, an 80-IQ Black thug isn’t too different from an 80-IQ White thug. Blacks just produce proportionally a lot more of them.

    As I noted in another comment, the globalists/leftists of all social strata sincerely believe in their utopia. Just the same as the previous wave of economic Marxism. Sociopaths aside, humans generally behave in a way they believe to be moral. But sometimes they’re just plain wrong.

    Globalism is a lot like socialism: “wonderful theory, wrong species.” Socialism ignored innate human motivations, while globalism ignores innate human tribalism. We all need our own countries and spaces (though I agree with Derbyshire’s “salt in the stew” analogy – a small sprinkling of diverse, high-IQ Browns/Asians can be beneficial).

  81. prusmc says: • Website

    I thought Yemen was filled with desperately poor and ignorant people. Where did they get the money to fly to South Korea, spend 30 days in some kind commmercial hospitality accommodations and then show up claiming refugee status?

    Moreover, Koreans are noted got hard work, Manuel skills, endurance and high East Asian intelligence, what do these Yemeni new comers have to offer Korea?

    IF Korea acts like a rational, soverign country where will these wonderful, liberty seeking Yemenis go? The USSA over certain.

    • Replies: @Wally
  82. @Tulips

    In Black Africa, there’s a strong correlation between how well a country is doing and the degree to which it was colonized. Yes, the West created a lot of problems, but we didn’t create all of them.

    I’m pretty sure many here, me included, would like to see the US completely disengage from the Middle East. No troops, no presence, no aid, no nothing. We stay here, they stay there. Problem solved.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @anon
  83. Alden says:

    What with 50 or more percent of the time used for ADs and trailers and coming attractions people don’t really watch TV. They just keep it on hoping something will come on they can watch.

    More and more White parents don’t even have TV. They have a screen for Netflix and DVDs.

    Kids would rather play a video game instead of passively watching 3 minutes of a TV program alternating with 3 minutes of ADs, trailers and coming attractions.

    The Hitler channel is the Hitler channel but Nat Geo Nova and others have great shows about astronomy, geography, earth science, ancient civilizations, how the pyramids the Roman colliseums and stadiums and Stonehenge cathedrals stained glass regular glass Great Wall of China were built.

    There’s the How It’s Made channel. Great for boys it’s about metallurgy and weapons and technology machinery.

    Most of those programs show up on Netflix as well. So kids can learn about a variety of subjects they’ll never learn about in school.

  84. @Frederick V. Reed

    Because your amigos will dominate or drive the Asians out if Asians and whites don’t band together?

  85. joe webb says:

    “The dehumanization of Europe is on the march.” per the deluded by “Humanity.”

    I think it was Gobineau who said something like, I have met a German, an Englishman, a Dutchman, etc. but I have never met a Humanity.

    Actually, the Rehumanization of Europe is beginning. Home Sapiens includes many races that are not fully human, if by human, one means the highest functioning, and not the lowest functioning or the middling types of functioning as in money, sex, and power.

    Higher means accomplishment in intellectual, scientific, and emotional functioning. Free Speech and its related components of intelligence and interpersonal communication, including regard for animals and Mother Earth. High functioning in interpersonal communication includes delight, as well as penetrating analysis of another’s character, which also includes the ability to kill an enemy.

    By this standard, only Whites make the cut, and many of us fail to be fully Human. Such is Evolution, bell curves, good breeding practices, and personal restraint.

    The only race worth a shit is the White race. Those who are as smart as us, like the East Asians, fail the other tests of what it is to be high functioning, Oriental Despotism being the common denominator of all of them. Witness China, etc. This kind of Oriental Despotism fits all of Asia, the Middle and Near East (Turks and Arabs), the current invaders of Europe… and Africa, except that Africans are not even Oriental Despots. They are Chaos, a combination of extreme stupidity and narcissism.

    No other race has the capacity for elections, free speech, rule of law. And by elections, I mean relatively so. Women and very low functioning fellow Whites do not necessarily make the cut.

    Aristocracy of sorts would seem to be the biologically correct way to run a state (not a society, which should be left largely alone to sort itself out).

    The Democratic Age, initiated by Whites only, has turned out to be associated with our high capacity for Altruism, which among other things, is rooted in part in Pride inasmuch as the average Liberal and Revolutionary thinks he/she Knows and also seeks recognition for that highly claimed virtue. Thus, Democracy Ideology is the fruit of advertisements for the self, and leads directly to “more equal than others.”

    Whites are starting to awaken from their crazy and childish Ideas. A certain kind of humility allows other people to be who they are. When it is realized that what and who they are has no chance of leading to “delightful” social interaction, then one avoids this type of person or persons.

    A genuine appreciation of Evolution and its extreme Diversity due to very diverse natural environments over tens of thousands of years, includes respect for Others, but does not include any requirement to associate with them.

    In fact, an attachment to higher functioning, especially in social life, demands that Others be excluded from White society.

    Further, this kind of appreciation of Natural Diversity/Evolution includes a certain kind of relativistic view of Others. However, this kind of Relativism does not include endorsement of Others. It just means that they are welcome to go their own way. It also includes defense of one’s own territory, borders, and genome. This runs from expulsion to killing if uninvited guests do not leave one’s house or territory.

    High emotional functioning also includes courage, and the ability to handle weapons.

    Joe Webb

  86. Z-man says:

    “Fortress Europe”—or Fortress North?

    The Germans, French and others can thank two Italians, a northerner (Salvini) and a southerner (DiMaio) for stemming the tide of illegal worthless African men from landing on the shores of ‘Fortress Europa’.

  87. Anonymous[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    People tend to overestimate how much time it takes for populations to differentiate. One thing I learned from studying animals that in sufficiently harsh environments, a few generations can be all it takes for a population to take on a new characteristic especially with highly differential reproduction by a segment of the population. The red kangaroo is an excellent example – it might have split from the grey only 100k(or less) years ago, and has become a wildly different being thanks to population bottlenecks that kill off 80% of the entire species.

  88. Wally says:
    @Anonymous Jew

    “In Black Africa, there’s a strong correlation between how well a country is doing and the degree to which it was colonized”

    I assume you mean that the more they were “colonized” the better they are doing. Yes?

    I agree with your ME thoughts.

    In fact, we should disengage from everywhere. The costs are horrific and unsustainable.


    • Agree: Anonymous Jew
  89. Wally says:

    That’s rather like Central & South Americans claiming ‘refugee from strife’ status as they march the length of very big Mexico to the US border rather than staying in Mexico and seeking refugee status there, or even going to the nearest US consulate of which there are many throughout Mexico.

  90. anon[303] • Disclaimer says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Right. The East is so great, which must be why they are all desperate to emigrate…to the dying West no less. Per the NYT there are at least 50,000 illegal mainland Chinese in the US, and per the WSJ there are at least 500,000 illegal Indian nationals in the US. From what I see around me in the west coast, I think both are gross underestimates.

  91. Alden says:

    Get a life instead of obsessing over other people’s spouses and friends.

  92. eyeslevel says:

    It’s the anti-whites who dehumanize people. They treat non-whites like pets incapable of taking care of themselves and like animals never responsible for their own actions. When Tamara Cincik was attacked in London, she didn’t blame the Asian attacker, she blamed whatever white males happened to be nearby. She treated the attack exactly as if she had been attacked by a bear or alligator. They’re just being themselves! What could be more dehumanizing to non-whites than to deny them free will, agency and moral choice? Anti-whites just assume white superiority.

    There’s nothing more dehumanizing to a group of adults than to say they can’t take care of themselves.

  93. anon[303] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous Jew

    I’m pretty sure many here, me included, would like to see the US completely disengage from the Middle East. No troops, no presence, no aid, no nothing. We stay here, they stay there. Problem solved.

    Does your “Middle East” include Israel? If so, I agree with you.

    The US needs to cut off any and all ties with Israel. As long as we have ties to Israel, our troubles in the Mideast will never end, because Israel can never stop making enemies.

    It’s high time we pass a law barring anyone with dual citizenship from holding office in Congress. An overwhelming number of our senators and house members past and present hold dual Israeli citizenship, including Richard Blumenthal, Chuck Schumer, Bernie Sanders, Diane Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Adam Schiff, Al Franken, Joe Lieberman, Eric Cantor, Barnie Frank, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Andrew Wiener, Gabriel Giffords — in fact 89% of the Democratic Senate and House. It’s no wonder the Democrat party is so eager to give away the country to all comers, it’s not their country to defend, the real country they are defending is Israel.

  94. Anonymous[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    whereas the black or white man has massive masculine charisma and often a John Holmes-sized member to pull the girls.

    And this post started with good observations. Then it became delusional.

  95. anon[303] • Disclaimer says:

    Interesting. I would think it goes the other way, Polynesians spread into Central America. Filipinos and other Austronesians look a lot like Amerindians from Central America for sure.

    Per the book Who We Are and How We Got Here, DNA evidence showed that “Northern Eurasians” consisted of many hunter gatherer tribes who intermixed with Near East agricultural tribes who traveled North from Persia and created the modern Europeans. These ancient, pre-modern Northern Eurasian hunter gatherers are the predecessors of both Western Europeans and East Asians, though the two groups split off before the Near Eastern agricultural tribes came up.

    Northern Native Americans such as the Eskimos are genetically linked to Northeast Asians that came out of Northern China. Amazonians are the only South American tribe with Austronesian DNA. The Austronesian aka Polynesians and Pacific Islanders meanwhile are thought to be originated from a people who first inhabited the island of Taiwan. Over time they intermixed with Papua New Guineans which is why at least 25% of their DNA now are Papua New Guinean. Meanwhile the Papua New Guineans and Australian Aborigines are mysteriously tied to the pre-modern human Denisovans in Siberia. Go figure.

    • Replies: @Jim Delano
    , @Wally
  96. @Medvedev

    “Average American”…no such animal.

  97. @anon

    Not saying that it’s great, just that it could survive the West declining. Also, I don’t lump India with China, Japan and Korea.

    My point is that they are both capable of maintaining (if not necessarily advancing) a modern civilization and ethnocentric enough to keep others out of their lands. That puts them above whites for the moment.

    (Btw, history proves that whites are the most accomplished people to ever walk the earth. I bow down to no other race. But that doesn’t mean that I can see how things are at the moment.)

  98. @Anonymous Jew

    True, many elite gentile whites are sadly on board. However, I do think that that a distinction needs to be made with the vast majority of Jewish elites. Gentile white elites are running this experiment on their own lands. If it fails, they (or, more likely, their children) will be in trouble. Jewish elites preach globalism and mass immigration EXCEPT for Israel. (Yes, I know that there are exceptions.)

    Jewish elites are like liberals who claim to love public schools in the city, but then send their own kids to private school.

    But, yes, globalism will fail just as socialism failed because they are both based on false assumptions. It may take awhile, but globalism will fail.

  99. @Hapalong Cassidy

    Yeah, that’s why I checked this guy out. I thought, “Hey, they finally found a gentile to spew this shit.”

    I suspect that high level Jews don’t even worry about the optics anymore. That’s how much they feel that the game has been won.

    • Replies: @KenH
  100. Every time somebody tries to prove the “Mongoloid ness” of Native Americans they use examples that are women or children, or worse, female children; yet children of all races share features with Mongoloids.

    Key word: Mongoloid. Mongoloids are not the only inhabitants of Asia.

    The adult Native Americans have numerous Caucasoid features and this is unsurprising as they share about 30% of their ancestry with West Eurasians.

  101. @anon

    Northern Native Americans such as the Eskimos are genetically linked to Northeast Asians that came out of Northern China.

    Not northern China. North Asia.

    Per the book Who We Are and How We Got Here, DNA evidence showed that “Northern Eurasians” consisted of many hunter gatherer tribes who intermixed with Near East agricultural tribes who traveled North from Persia and created the modern Europeans. These ancient, pre-modern Northern Eurasian hunter gatherers are the predecessors of both Western Europeans and East Asians, though the two groups split off before the Near Eastern agricultural tribes came up.

    Really inaccurate.

  102. KenH says:

    The worm is turning in the West but still not to the degree necessary to totally flip the script. When I used to bring up immigration issues in the 90’s people would look at me like I had Gorbachev’s birthmark on my forehead. Mexicans were “hardworking and so nice” but those people never lived anywhere near them. And H1B visas were just a wet dream of corporate oligarchs.

    Now serious discussions about deporting illegals and drastically lowering legal immigration have gone mainstream. Watching your city, town and neighborhood become colonized and turn into something unrecognizable or losing a lucrative job to an H1B Indian tends to change attitudes if one isn’t a zombie or totally brainwashed beyond hope like a sizable number white people still are.

    But the problem is that too many whites still think multiracial America can work as long as third world immigrants just assimilate or if illegals just leave and come back in “the right way” and that we’re all equal and interchangeable parts. But until whites disabuse themselves of these fairy tales then they’ll lose all political power like S. African whites and live as a small, detested minority if they’re allowed to live at all.

    Whites still can’t find it within themselves to take their own side and only their side like every other group and to become as confrontational towards non-whites willing to work against their interests as they are towards us.

  103. KenH says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I suspect that high level Jews don’t even worry about the optics anymore. That’s how much they feel that the game has been won.

    They do feel the game has been won. That’s why (((Brett Stephens))) recently wrote an opinion piece calling for the deportation of poor and working class whites. They’ve completely dropped all pretense and euphemism and are now telling us how they really feel about whites.

    Now even the most average Joe should see why they’ve suffered bloody pograms throughout history and been expelled from more than 100 nations.

  104. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    >Either way, Asia is rapidly reaching the point where the West could fall into disarray, and the Asian nations would be just fine. They’d trade amongst themselves, economies would grow and their lives would be quite nice. It does feel as though the baton is being passed from European peoples to East Asian peoples.

    Not so fast. East Asia has a major fertility issue that is taking its social safety net to uncharted territories and creating a large demand for African and middle eastern immigrants.

    Already Japan is taking in Turks, Nigerians, etc by the hundreds of thousands.

  105. @myself

    Here’s an interesting statistic: something like 1 out of 8 Han Chinese can trace descent, however distant, to a male of the clan of Temujin. 1 in 8 across a vast population. And that is only ONE source out of the constant admixture going back to before the time of Lao-Zi, or that of Cyrus the Great.

    This has been debunked many times over. Its from an old, sketchy paper in the early 2000s but old myths die hard.

    The Y-DNA haplogroup in Mongolia that was previously attributed to Genghis Khan in fact has nothing to do with Genghis Khan or his Borjigin clan.

    It was recently revealed that the Borjigin Mongols (and likely Genghis Khan himself) belonged to Y-DNA haplogroup R1b, the same clade that is dominant in England, Ireland, and Scotland:

    So, the Chinese in northern China have no admixture from Temujin’s Borjigin clan, although the Mongols themselves do have limited admixture from them. Even most Mongols today have little in common genetically with the Mongols who built the Mongol empire.

  106. @annamaria

    First, Asians are not smarter than Caucasians. You’re RCC and will OSCLUM INFAME black/Asian priests-popes. I left the RCC because I don’t accept black/Asian priests-popes. You are the problem.

    Next, Asians are a second tier race. They can only copy, not create. I state facts. This is not jealousy. Once again, you cannot deal with facts. IQ is the most important objective truth. Caucasians have the highest IQs and have created the world we have today. Also, I am only for the West. The West is not black/Asian/Muslim/Jewish.

    I was well aware of Bush/Cheney actions and now many white Christians know. The times are changing. The RCC and the Zioevangizer churches are collapsing. The West will be saved.

    You are not for the West.

    • Replies: @annamaria
  107. @Jeff Stryker

    You live in Asia with your Asian wife and offspring. What is your interest the West?

  108. @anon

    Derbyshire never writes about Chinese illegals or the technology they steal. Gee, I wonder why?

  109. Wally says:

    No question, Heyerdahl’s theory caught the establishment off guard, hence ridicule and a struggle in getting the necessary funding, materials, etc. until to he actually went to Peru where the Peruvian government, along with the US Navy docked there, assisted him and his crew of 5.

    Heyerdahl spent 10 years in Polynesia before he embarked upon his famous voyage in a balsa wood raft from Peru to Polynesia in the manner that the pre-Incan people would have used in sailing / drifting to Polynesia following the dominate current. The current from Polynesia towards Asia is quite strong thereby inhibiting Asian settlement, per Heyerdahl.

    BTW, during the his 10 years of research in Polynesia he and his wife found incredible archeological evidence including actual sculptures of Kon-Tiki, the sun god of that pre-Incan people as well as vegetation & fruits (think pineapple) which are clearly indigenous to Peru. There is also local Polynesian history which points to Kon-Tiki settlement.

    Whether these Kon-Tiki people also ventured to other areas is beyond my expertise here, but in spite of the naysayers, I go with Heyerdahl and his view that ‘Peruvians’ settled Polynesia.

    Not to wax ‘worldly’, but I have traveled all through Latin America and boy, some of those Indians really just look like Asian with deep tans. And true enough, some are a bit varied.

    FWIW, Cheers.

    • Replies: @Andrew E. Mathis
  110. Anonymous[484] • Disclaimer says:
    @David JW

    Are you serious? Derbyshire has yellow fever? Dave, I’m submitting your name for a Pulitzer. This is fucking incredible. You’re going places, big guy.

  111. dfordoom says: • Website

    White people have the RIGHT to exist AS White people in White Communities and Nations.

    The only problem with that is that white people don’t believe it.

    It’s not white genocide, it’s white suicide. It’s a sickness at the heart of white European civilisation. White European civilisation is thoroughly pozzed and it’s wallowing in self-indulgent guilt. Our civilisation cannot be saved unless we can purge the cultural degeneracy, crush liberalism and fine something to live for apart from mindless hedonism.

  112. Paw says:
    @Auntie Analogue

    And so EU is now under at least four hammers. One : She has to pay hefty money , the foreign help. For at least 50 years. Two: Billions ,to keep alive invaders in millions and occupations by those who received that help for long time. Plus to pay billions to Ukraine.Three: Increase budget for NATO. Four: EU non voted commission and govt. of the European states have very expensive policy rules. Fifth : Tourists and their billions yearly stay away from the EU Abatoir. Sixth : Very high unemployment in Greece, Spain etc.
    Future destroyed.

    • Replies: @myself
  113. @KenH

    But the problem is that too many whites still think multiracial America can work as long as third world immigrants just assimilate or if illegals just leave and come back in “the right way” and that we’re all equal and interchangeable parts.

    I think this foolishness is partly down to the dominance of lawyers and legal thinking in American life. Lawyers are to the United States what priests used to be to Ireland and Italy, magnetic fields that bend all thinking in their direction even without the thinker being aware of it.

    Under the law, everyone is supposed to be equal. Sure, almost everyone is skeptical about how the principle works in practice, but it colors attitudes. The law says everybody is equal, so how can we “discriminate” against someone who crosses the border in the Arizona desert or at 35,000 feet? They’re equal, aren’t they? So what’s good for indigenes should be good for drop-ins.

    But it’s worse. Every ethical and moral issue is reduced to finely tuned legalism (the first line of defense of someone caught behaving badly is, “I didn’t do anything illegal!”). And that spills over onto immigration issues. Today in my car I turned on the radio and the first thing I heard was a cuckservative talk show host saying, “They think because we’re against illegal immigration we don’t like immigrants” in a tone of voice that implied gotcha, you slimy liberals. (“What part of illegal don’t you understand?”)

    We don’t care if you can’t speak English and have an 80 IQ and five muchachos. If you would just go to a consulate and get the paperwork in order … hey, no problem. It’s the American way!

    • Replies: @artichoke
  114. Joe Wong says:

    North America belongs to the people of the First Nations of the North America, but nowadays they are the minority and the outcasts in their own homeland, because their generous ancestors were overwhelmed by the arrival of the massive uninvited fake “refugees” suddenly, in fact those “refugees” were armed pirates and bandits in reality, from the old continent of Europe.

    The new massive fake “refugees’, i.e. the Sun People, are just following the foot steps of the previous fake ‘refugees’ from the old continent of Europe into their dreamed promising land. It is puzzling why can your guy do it but not the current fake ‘refugees’? That is simply walking into somebody’s homeland uninvited, unannounced then taking over the place, it was legitimate to the fake ‘refugees’ from the old continent of Europe, then why it is illegitimate and illegal for the Sun people doing the same, why is the big fuss?

  115. artichoke says:

    It’s opportunism. USA and Europe have welfare states, programs that people can get onto without even having normal status in the country. And so if you let people from the third world sneak in, they will, and they will be the dregs (albeit able bodied dregs) because the middle class in a country will not uproot themselves to do it.

    Sometimes it’s even more systematic. Fr0m some places in Guatemala at least (this was written about recently regarding Huehuetenango) it’s a tradition to come to “el Norte”, earn money, send it back, and then return to build your house and raise your family. This doesn’t bother me as much because the quality of the people is good, and they’re not coming for our welfare, education and healthcare programs.

    More disturbingly, today I saw a story about Mexican illegals here who are HIV+. I think they get free treatment here, which of course is enormously expensive for the taxpayers here, but the cost is buried in a way we can’t get specifics. But they surely come here because gay HIV+ people won’t get any help in Mexico. Yeah OK, but to be honest I don’t want them here. They take more than contributing. As a minor consolation they won’t drop multiple generations here.

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @m___
  116. artichoke says:
    @Joe Wong

    It’s about who can win. We won before. We had metallurgy and could make rifles and other firearms.
    They couldn’t. Their descendants still can’t, unless they might get a job at a big white-owned company doing those things.

    Now we’ve become soft, left loopholes, have entitled classes who want to disrupt society, so in flood the “sun people”. The point of the article is that if we wake up, we can repel this invasion.

  117. artichoke says:
    @Tulip Bulb Millionaire

    We’re not that naive. Legalism is what works. That’s why we’re bent to legalism. And the lawyers are pervasive, so there’s no break from their rule of legalism. Common sense is tripped up if it crosses their statutes.

    The legal profession pushes left because it has been taken over by leftists. That may be the natural state of affairs for the legal profession, but that’s an analysis for another day. Ours is leftist. Try applying to law school as a right winger. You’ll be going to Podunk, not Yale.

    The argument about “getting your papers in order” must be a cover, at least it is when I use it. I know most of these people could never “adjust status” to permanent resident. We do have standards, and they’re not qualified. If our lawyers could have gotten them all green cards, they would have done so.

  118. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Yep, that’s Jews. They want to be allowed to both completely separate and completely accepted at the some time.

    That’s the gist of the Jewish–Ashkenazi–narrative. Keeping themselves–aggressively, ideologically–separate, to avoid being swept into the integrating European Christian society … but then whining out the wazoo when gentiles quite naturally react to that by treating them as, indeed, separate.

    This is so incredibly obvious, but Jews are so invested in their narrative of their own virtue and innocent victimization.

  119. @David JW

    This is just pro-Chinese cucking on a grand scale by Derbyshire, because he is married to a Chinese woman.


    I don’t doubt the Derb is more interested in things Chinese, because of his time there and, more so,the wife.

    And i mostly agree that there really isn’t much to this whole “Artic Alliance” thing, because the NE Asians seem very unlikely to go down the road the West has travelled. (I.e. they don’t need an alliance with the West to keep the riff-raff out, and we don’t need an alliance with them to do the same–just sanity.)

    But i don’t see any “cucking”.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  120. @Wally

    According Thor Heyerdahl’s theory, the Polynesians are essentially pre-Incan Peruvians who came across a prevailing current and settled Polynesian.

    I don’t think that was quite Heyerdahl’s theory. But we already knew Heyerdahl’s Polynesian theories were wrong just from the Austronesian language evidence. The DNA stuff just put a fork in it.

  121. myself says:

    Tourists and their billions yearly stay away from the EU Abatoir

    Yes, this is TRUE.

    The strange suicide of Europe has become news worldwide, and the well-to do non-Europeans, those who just want to VISIT (not emigrate to) Europe, and have money to spend, are now beginning to stay away.

    You know it’s gotten pretty bad when the well-to-do of the world, who want to have the experience of a “nice European vacation”, make it a point to stay away, while the dregs of the planet continue to come and SETTLE Europe by the millions per year.

    Next phase: the same’s going to happen to America as well, give it about 15 more years. The well-heeled visitors will turn away from America on their own, while bottom-rung populations will come in droves.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
  122. Wally says:
    @Joe Wong

    So what you’re really saying is that American Indians should not have been so xenophobic towards European migrants / refugees.

    While European dreamers came and produced, the more recent batch of fake ‘refugees’ / immigrants are simply incapable of producing anything other than more babies.

    You’re trying to compare the incomparable.

  123. @Wally

    Fuji Chinese are hated for the same reasons-minus the media-that the Jews are hated elsewhere and Indonesia’s 1997 massacre of Chinese was similar to the Russian pogroms. The difference is that the Chinese bush peddlers cum tycoons are not even as integrated a Jews, but it is the same rural/prole vs. urban/market-dominant minority things as hicks vs Jews in the US.

    Philippines is also beset by hatred towards Chinoys or Chinese-Filipinos, basically a bunch of Fuji Chinese. In addition to controlling the economy, the Chinese-Filipinos also manufacture the meth (Shabu) that the Filipinos are hooked on. Because Filipinos are rather dim and silly, the Chinese have run roughshod over them like a Jewish porn director over an Alabama runaway who came to Los Angeles to be a “big actor”.

  124. @Anonymous Jew

    Worldwide, it appears that the most intelligent peoples/races are those with an evolutionary history of both cold AND agriculture. For example, the Eskimos/Inuit are the most intelligent hunter-gatherers, but not as intelligent as the Japanese and probably comparable to SE Asians. The least intelligent are those that were isolated from the Ice Age and never adopted agriculture: Black hunter-gatherers like the Pygmies and the Australoids of Australia/SE Asia.

    Anon Jew–Excellent summary. That’s how i read it as well.

    I’d also throw in that both cold (seasons) and ag have selected for low time preference as well–a trait you don’t see in abundance in some “Sun People”.

    Then on top of these very general patterns, you have specific occupational/cultural selection like you see in Ashkenazi Jews or Hindu Brahmins. But your short paragraph above is at least 90% of why the world is the way it is.

  125. @Anonymous Jew

    Supposedly Jews developed a 7-10 IQ over Gentiles because THEY COULDN’T OWN LAND. That is one of the theories, anyhow.

    As for Inuit, they are relatively recent immigrants. The Norse were already IN Greenland when they arrived in the 10th century.

    I think Inuit migrated from Asia around Roman times and not from Siberia like Native Americans but somewhere in East Asia.

  126. Wally says:

    ” This doesn’t bother me as much because the quality of the people is good, and they’re not coming for our welfare, education and healthcare programs.”

    That’s exactly what they come for. And ‘good people’ don’t burden others.

    They work illegally, when they work, driving down wages and disemploying citizens.
    They pay no income taxes.
    They do get free education, regardless of their abilities to undertsand what they hear. What do hear & understand is that they are victims of whites, and should vote leftist, blah, blah
    They access heath care, they cannot be turned down at hospitals.
    They use roads, sanitation, police & countless other taxpayer funded services without paying for them.
    They can get drivers licenses.
    They rarely have auto insurance.
    They have high crime rates.
    They breed at the expense of citizens and their low IQ children are automatically ‘citizens’ who then qualify for endless amounts of unearned ‘welfare’.

    This list could go on & on.

    I wish you were right, but you’re not.

  127. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Regarding NE Asian and European IQ, the mystery has always been why have NE Asian scientific discoveries been so low relative to whites? Perhaps it was fluke of history, i.e. whites got lucky with the industrial revolution and were able to grab a lot of low hanging fruit. I don’t know, but it does seem odd.

    Some if it is no doubt just the geographical-historical drama. Europe developed into nation states which were competitve and so drove the Age of Exploration forward along with competition in technical advancement.

    But it’s pretty clear to me there’s also a difference in personality. Whites are less compliant, more independent of thought. This, as all things evolution kicks out, is also a product of history/culture, probably having to do with the whole “the tall peg gets hammered down” thing in China. Whites are probably–an almost certainly relative to IQ–more innovative. And i’m guessing were more likely to push their innovative idea into action.

  128. @Anonymous Jew

    Black Thug vs White Thug

    If America had as many Tony Sopranos or Jeffrey Dahmers-white gangsters and sexual psychopaths-as black thugs, society would be in real trouble.

    A Tony Soprano orders 50 murders in his mob boss career and a Dahmer serial killer murders in the double digits-these guys have IQ’s of 130 (Dahmer’s was high and Sopranos was mentioned on the show as 136) plus the muscle mass to be a physical match for any Crip or Blood in the ghetto.

    Whereas a black thug has an IQ of 80 which he augments with crack cocaine until he has the cognitive ability of Spot or Fido and is usually caught for his first or second homicide and in prison by his early 20’s (Sometimes teens).

    But a Tony Soprano runs a “family” for 10 or 20 years. A Jeffrey Dahmer usually acts out ritualistic masturbatory fantasies for a decade (Dahmer for 13 years) until he’s finally caught.

    Thankfully, whites produce less Tony Sopranos and Jeffrey Dahmers. A TINY proportion of Italian-Americans are in the mafia.

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  129. @Joe Wong

    As if Chinese prostitutes and laborers did not POUR into the United States in the pig-tail era and more lately, the heroin dealers that turned Vancouver into one big “shooting gallery”.

    Please don’t purport that Chinese were all desirable immigrants.

    Right now when some huge 1000 kg shipment of heroin is busted in Vancouver you know it will be Chinese and when a massage parlor is raided the girls will all have names like Me Suk You and not Colleen O’Brien.

    Chinese sell drugs (Meth to Philippines, heroin to North America) and pimp prostitutes from the Northeast of China.

  130. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Either way, Asia is rapidly reaching the point where the West could fall into disarray, and the Asian nations would be just fine. They’d trade amongst themselves, economies would grow and their lives would be quite nice. It does feel as though the baton is being passed from European peoples to East Asian peoples.

    Agree on this as well.

    The elite Jews (and their globalists gentile fellow travelers) think they are going to create one-world utopia where they will dictate everything (and no one will keep them out of any golf club).

    What will happen is hard to predict. But the one thing i’m 100% certain of is that won’t happen. They do seem to be on track to destroying the West. But there’s no way that they are going to get the whole world to comply with their demands. Rather the destruction of the West is serving as a warning of “what not to do!” Along with destroying the West, they are simply making China’s rise into one that leads to potential world dominance.

  131. @Wally

    I have to tell you that was a remarkably lucid post, nicely written, clearly informed, a pleasure to read. I didn’t know you had it in you.

  132. annamaria says:

    “…Asians are not smarter than Caucasians.” — try to be intellectually honest and do some minimal research:
    “You’re RCC” — I am not.
    “Asians are a second tier race. … Caucasians have the highest IQs and have created the world we have today” — look at the stat above.
    “You are not for the West.” — I am. By the way, do your genetic analysis.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  133. @Anon 2

    The guy known as “Realist” meant to reply to this, but I’ve got to chime in even this late in the thread on geography/climate. My first 2-word reply would be Gulf Stream, at least for England, where Newton lived. Italy is mostly surrounded by water.

    What I’m getting at in general is that climate can vary with lots more than lattitude, as Realist said. Besides the warm/muggy southeast*, much of China has a Continental climate (as also does your example of Poland). They don’t have an ocean to the west of them from which the prevailing winds come. In addition there are mountainous regions all over that land, and of course temps go down with elevation. There are places at < 30 deg. N. lattitude in China that are colder than Seattle (lat 48 deg ) due to elevations 1/2 to 1 mile up + smog that doesn't let the sun through (causing people to burn more coal for heat … causing more smog … etc.)

    The Renaissance places and England, where the great science was done have climates warmer than most of China. In Italy/Greece, it's called a "Mediteranean climate" (that's a definition, as the same can be applied to southern California), in England (don't quote me) it's a "Marine West Coast" climate like that of the Pacific Northwest.

    Sorry, I like real climatology, so that's probably more than you wanted to know. If Mr. Derbyshire's definitions are based on climate at all (not just personality) than the Chinese would be Ice people much more than the Italians. It sure seems like they are based on personality, doesn't it?

    * and it IS the worst I've felt – hotter and more humid than anywhere in the US South, I can tell you. Over in Hong Kong the lows would be in the low-mid 80's F during July and August with humidity that you could use for your wash.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Jew
  134. Truth says:
    @Frederick V. Reed


    Alfredo has lost his cotton-pickin’ mind!

  135. Rob McX says:

    You know it’s gotten pretty bad when the well-to-do of the world, who want to have the experience of a “nice European vacation”, make it a point to stay away, while the dregs of the planet continue to come and SETTLE Europe by the millions per year.

    In Barcelona, the city government is bragging about preferring the latter to the former.

  136. @annamaria

    If I recall correctly, I believe you’re Italian.

    Let’s look at this logically. I know it will be hard for you. But try.

    What did Asians/blacks/Jews invent? Nothing.

    Where did the Industrial Revolution start? In the West. What are Asian countries trying to do? Industrialize. Why? Because this is what created the modern West.

    What is the West not? It is not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim? Are some of your male relatives involved with Asian poontang?

    Are you a Christian? If not, what are your religious beliefs.

    Read Ricardo Duchesne’s book: The Uniqueness of Western Civilization. Your reading level is probably too low for it, but try.

    If you cannot say that the West is best, you are the problem. If you cannot say what the West is not, you are the problem.

    • Replies: @Wallfacer
  137. @Frederick V. Reed

    Why would they want an alliance with an inferior race?

    Yeah, and why even move here and try to live in all the cities with all those white people? It’s not like they don’t have a few dozen cities as big as NYC of their own, full of Chinese people.

  138. annamaria says:

    “I believe… Asians invent nothing.”
    — Thank god you are not in education.
    A very important hint: the Greeks (you know, Greece, the “cradle of western civilization” and so forth) did not start the Industrial Revolution. Oh, horror!
    Also, the Italians did not invent the math of linear perspective, Spaniards did not invent algebra, and Germans did not invent woodblock printing.
    Actually, it does not seem that you belong to the core of western civilization, the main tradition of which is the respect for knowledge.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  139. @Achmed E. Newman

    Good points. Continental v. Oceanic climate. The west coasts of N. America and Eurasia are mild compared to the east coasts. Seattle’s winter temperatures are nearly identical to London. People forget that the Indians in Virginia had to survive colder winters than London.

    I grew up in Seattle, which has the same climate classification as the British Isles and much of NW Europe. Mild, wet and dark winters with an average low of 35 and an average high of 45. Most people don’t realize Seattle and London don’t get much snow. Note that Seattle is the northern most major US city and is even further north than the northern tip of Maine.

  140. Wallfacer says:

    “What did Asians/blacks/Jews invent? Nothing.”

    The Chinese invented the basic technologies that the Europeans used to industrialize off of. Europeans naturally began to invent more things once the scientific revolution took off. But a fat lot of good this is doing the West, seeing that in exchange for rapid material progress, we also got political “progress” — atheism, communism, feminism, and all the lovely things that are destroying us.

    Meanwhile East Asia (China, really) keeps the same writing that it used for 3,000 years, maintains roughly the same social structures, and keeps up a modest pace of technological advancement that doesn’t completely destabilize its civilization.

    In 1,000 years, China is likely to still exist and show off its 6,000-year past while colonizing other planets. Germany, France, Britain? The US? They’ll be lucky if they end up in the official Chinese historical annals as anything other than “anarchic barbarians who let their nations be overrun by stronger barbarians.”

    • Replies: @Leon Haller
    , @j2
  141. @Anon 2

    The theory is that all NE Asians evolved in very cold climates before migrating to their current locations (many of which are still quite cold). Looking at typical Ice Age traits, NE Asians are more cold-evolved than Whites: shorter limbs, fat distribution, etc. I’m not sure about their vascular response to cold/frostbite, however. I believe Whites do have higher resting metabolisms, so the evidence is at least somewhat mixed. (Note Whites – and I assume most Asians – don’t have the same cold adaptations as Eskimos and other Arctic peoples).

    Per the discussion on Oceanic (West Coast) vs. Continental (East Coast) climates, Beijing has colder winters than London.

    December: 21/38
    January: 17/35

    December 40/48
    January 40/48

    It’s much like North America. West Coast Seattle (further north than the northern tip of Maine!) has relatively mild winters at 36/46, while East Coast Alexandria Virginia actually averages colder winters at 27/43.

    So no. Most Chinese (ie the Han), Koreans and Japanese are most definitely “Ice People.” IIRC SE Asians at some point had evolutionary exposure to cold, but that has since been relaxed, obviously. Much like Amerindians that had to cross the Land Bridge in the Ice Age but now live in humid jungles.

    *temperatures listed refer to: average daytime low/average daytime high

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  142. @annamaria

    Your cowardice and stupidity are staggering.

    The ancient Greeks were Caucasian, European – not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim. It took awhile to get to the industrial age, but it was the West (again not blacks/Asians/Jews/Muslims) who accomplished this. Everyone else copied us.

    The ancient Greeks laid the foundations for science and most math. The ancient Babylonians/Egyptians (Caucasian people – again, not black/Asian/Jewish/Muslim) contributed to the development of math. There is revisionism afoot today so one has to be careful. The ancient Indians of India (Aryan) also contributed to math. Again, the ancient Indians were Aryan. Mixing with Asians destroyed their IQ and that’s why today’s dark-skinned Indians have an average IQ of 82. The ancient Egyptians were Caucasians. They mixed with blacks and today we have dark-skinned, low IQ Egyptians. Modern day Egyptians will never create the civilization of the pyramids.

    The Germans did not invent wood block printing. Gutenberg developed something better – the printing press. Again, Western, Caucasian, European intellect at work.

    The Italian Fillipo Brunelleshi invented linear perspective. Again, a Western, Caucasian, European person.

    You did not state your religion. My hunch is correct. There is Asian poontang somewhere in your family.

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  143. @KenH

    True, many whites still believe in that every other race will magically turn into whites in brown face. However, I would argue that many whites are at least waking up to the fact that other races 1) see themselves as a race and 2) put the welfare of their own race above other races. They’re not sure what to do with that information, other than be disappointed in other races not acting like whites.

    But eventually, those whites will take the next step, which is to start identifying as whites and demanding that whites be allowed to fight for rights as a race. It will take time, and many whites will refuse to join the movement. That’s fine. Nature requires that those not adapted to an environment die out. That’s what will happen to non-racial whites. They’ll either not have children or mix with other races – races that are ethnocentric.

    Of course, by that point, the United States will be hopelessly multi-everything. Whites will need to carve out their society within that larger society. As I’ve often said, we’re all Jews now, so better start acting like it.

  144. @AnotherDad

    Agreed that East Asians seem to lack that special something that leads to innovation. Whites are the only race that seems to create the quirky genius whose brain feels free to fly where it wants. Some people have argued that it’s a cultural thing, but I noticed that same lack of imagination in American Asians. White guys just love to tinker. Asian guys just want a good grade.

  145. @AnotherDad

    I harp on this a lot, but I really do believe that Jews don’t get just big a deal it is that they look like Europeans. Hispanics, blacks and Asians are simply never going to see Jews as one of them, and thus will never trust them. If Jews think that they are considered the “other” by gentile whites, wait til they start dealing day in and day out with non-whites.

    I truly believe that we’ve seen Peak Jew. Don’t get me wrong, Jews will continue to wield tremendous power for decades to come. But they will begin to meet more and more resistance as time goes on. Europe will become less and less friendly to Jews and to Israel. The Democratic Party will become more and more black and brown. Sure, Jews will still control the purse strings and organization of the Dems, but their paid-for politicians will despise them and look for the first chance to get out from under their thumb, especially the NE and South Asians who will organization and fund themselves over time. The Internet destroyed Jewish control over the media, though they’re trying their best to keep a lid on things.

    Jews would be smart to put the brakes on destroying the West. They damaged white control enough to keep us from ever fully controlling our own lands, but pushing this any farther risks allowing other groups who actually are hostile to Jews (either because they’re Jews or just because Jews seen as whites) from gaining power.

    But I’m holding my breath. Jews are an extremely impressive people, but not pushing things too far isn’t one of their attributes.

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  146. annamaria says:

    “The Italian Fillipo Brunelleshi invented linear perspective”
    — Check again. And do not hesitate to check your genetic makeup.
    — Moreover, bad manners and bad-mouthing are not the attributes of civilized people. Also, are you sure that you are “attilathehen” and not “attilatherooster?” You have an elevated aggressiveness (abnormally high testosterone level?), the roots of which can be found with genetic testing.

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  147. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Many Jews do not look like Europeans. Today’s Jews have high intermarriage rates with blacks/Asians. The Ashkenazi Jew has pretty much disappeared. The only reason it seems Jews have power is because of the Zioevangizers and RCC. Fortunately, the RCC and Zioevangizer churches are collapsing. It is the RCC and Zioevangizes who are destroying the West.

    I support Israel because the Jews now have a homeland and they must go there. They cannot hold any political offices or citizenship in the West. This can be accomplished but not until we destroy the RCC and its belief it is the universal church and we forcefully state to the Zioevangiers that today’s Jews are not the chosen people and have no connection to the Jews in the Old Testament and when Jesus lived. The RCC and Zioevangizers will fall back on the stupid idea of universal brotherhood. This evil, oxymoronic idea must be destroyed.

    Right now, the cucks are all worried because the negress Oscasio-Cortez, a socialist, won the primary in New York. This parasite is calling for open borders, free college, the usual stupid stuff. The best way for cucks to deal with socialism/communism is to destroy its belief in universal brotherhood. Marx wanted the workers of the world to unite. That’s universal brotherhood. I am only interested in the workers of the West. This means that workers of the non-West do not count and can be ignored. The cucks will have the incredibly stupid idea that Christianity is also socialistic thrown at them. Many socialists/commies invoke Christianity. This is where the cucks have to be challenged and told that non-Western socialists/commies must have their own churches in their own countries and help their workers.

    And the IQ question is the best deterrent to the Jews and others. Blacks/Asians are second and third tier races with low IQs. Also, Jews are not the smartest tribe ever. This incredibly stupid idea is easily refuted.

    Again, the Caucasian RCC/Zioevangizer male will have to be dragged kicking and screaming away from the evil ideas of universal church/brotherhood so that we can start solving our problems.

  148. dfordoom says: • Website

    And i mostly agree that there really isn’t much to this whole “Artic Alliance” thing, because the NE Asians seem very unlikely to go down the road the West has travelled. (I.e. they don’t need an alliance with the West to keep the riff-raff out, and we don’t need an alliance with them to do the same–just sanity.)

    The last thing NE Asians need is any kind of contact with the West at all. The NE Asians need to distance themselves from us as much as they possibly can. The West is the source of the Poz and the Poz is the plague that threatens to destroy every civilisation on the planet. It would be in the interests of the NE Asian nations to voluntarily quarantine themselves from the West.

    • LOL: Anonymous Jew
    • Replies: @attilathehen
    , @Bliss
  149. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Frederick V. Reed

    The East Asians are smarter than whites, and know it, as well as very racially conscios and nationalisitc. Look at their academic performance in the US. Why would they want an alliance with an inferior race?

    I don’t think whites are inferior to East Asians intellectually but the history of the West in the past century does suggest that we’re culturally inferior. Our culture seems to have a built-in self-destruct device and so far we haven’t found any way to de-activate it.

    Unfortunately we’re spreading our diseased culture to every corner of the globe. The East Asians need to act quickly to erect cultural barriers against us to protect themselves.

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  150. Seraphim says:

    @they must have a horrible inferiority complex

    Indeed they have. That explain their compulsion to manically assert their imagined superiority. They need to convince themselves. Pride is the root of all evil.

  151. J J says:
    @Anonymous Jew

    Ditto. In fact, East Asians are both Ice people and Sun people. As you pointed out, winters in East Asia are much harsher and colder compared to other places of the same latitude (including West Europe), which is why East Asians have evolved to have slanted eyes with extra fat in eyelids to protect their eyes in a very cold environment.

    On the other hand, summers in East Asia are also hotter than most places on earth. But unlike Middle East or Northern Africa where summers are hot but dry, or Europe where summers are milder but dry, East Asian summers are hot and rainy at the same time, which prevents its land from turning into deserts like most places of the same latitude and is very advantageous for agriculture.

    India has rainy summers as well, and it’s no coincidence that India, along with China, has historically been one of two most populous civilizations. However, unlike India’s all year long warm climate, East Asia has cold winters which pressure people to farm hard and store up grain before the winter, but because of the superior climate for agriculture, anybody who works hard (under extreme heat) would be rewarded with great prizes, which explains East Asian cultural emphases on hard work and why they have evolved to have more physical endurance than other people.

  152. @dfordoom

    “The last thing NE Asians need is any kind of contact with the West at all.”

    The last thing Westerners need is any kind of contact with any kind of Asians.

    Asians are a second tier, lower IQ race. We do not need or want them in the West.

  153. Seraphim says:

    The choice of Attila as a moniker for a noisy ‘Caucasian’ is a ‘Freudian slip’. Unconsciously he signals that he is not!

  154. annamaria says:

    Thank you. That was an astute and funny comment.

  155. Sorry Derb. I, too, have long called for a “Northern Alliance”, though one of all the White nations, from North America across Europe, and including Russia (maybe Trump has something of the same idea? we can hope .. it’s not that farfetched …). I would also include Australia, New Zealand, and any remaining Whites in Southern Africa as well as Southern Latin America.

    See the point? The issue is support for a Pan-EUROPEAN Alliance for mutual RACIAL survival. This may be “Northern” in ultimate geographic origin, but today, that is merely accidental.

    In all this I was merely agreeing with the great Wilmot Robertson (author of The Dispossessed Majority).

    I would, however, extend the alliance to include Japan (Hitler’s “Asian Nordics”). It is the only Asian nation in a similar situation to ALL White nations: its people combine cognitive superiority with an advanced civilization, an industrial economy, and a low birthrate. Also, along with most White countries, a (postwar) tradition of parliamentary democracy.

    But as for other Asian nations, such an alliance is pure wishfulness. China is moving in an opposite direction from the West’s ethnomasochism. Even if it went ethnomasochistic (and it won’t; neither will Japan; ethnomasochism is an evolutionary defect unique to the White race), it’s populace is so numerous that the Chinese people and their ethnoculture are in absolutely no realistic danger whatsoever of racio-cultural extinction, even if they started foolishly admitting “Sun People” migrants. Why would they join an alliance with the West? Indeed, China is our chief geopolitical and strategic rival, and undoubtedly enjoys the West’s self-enervation and auto-annihilation via demographic invasions and the pagan cult of “Diversity”.

  156. @Wallfacer

    Most scientific and technological advances have been Western in origin. Given how numerous Asians from India to the Far East have always been compared to the West (though never more so than today, thanks to the White Moron’s sharing of his medical and agricultural discoveries with the whole of Planet Ingrate), one would have expected East Asia truly to have been the “Middle Kingdom”, the first and center of the world in all things.

    But it wasn’t.

    Of course the West is now “dysgenizing” itself to oblivion – and not only due to “Sun People” importation (and domestic over-fecundity), but also thanks to feminism’s channeling of a hugely disproportionate share of the White race’s smartest females into mostly useless “careers” (ones often involving harassing men for being, er, male) at the cost of much diminished upper-IQ reproduction.

    Third World immigration/invasion + White feminism-engendered High-IQ non-reproduction = Death of the West (Pat Buchanan, for whom I voted 3 x, only gets part of this).

    Absent a necessary “Right-fascist turn” across the West, we really ARE doomed. But let’s not forget, out of some ludicrous fetishizing of Asians (or Jews), who and what we were in the ages of our greatness.

  157. @Jeff Stryker

    Diversity is just plain bad – for superior peoples. Isn’t that the simple, unarguable conclusion?

    I knew this in high school in the 70s. How long it has taken masses of Whites to awaken! (And most are still asleep!)

  158. denk says:
    @Dagon Shield

    ‘white ice’ + ‘yellow ice’ aint gonna happen.

    WTS, are inherently anti ‘yellow ice’.

    In the 80’s, jp was the bogeyman.
    ‘jp as no 1’ was the meme.

    murkkan dumb fucks were told that ‘jp are your enemy, they rob your jobs’
    Ironically it was a Chinese , Vincent Chin who became the first victim of anti jap hate crimes.
    Chin was bludgeoned to death by two WTS in broad daylight, criminals still at large.

    I understand from WTS rants that they cant get away with killing blacks and others , but they sure can waste a couple of ‘yellow ice’ and get away with it, its sanctioned from above.

    Today the rage is on Chinese.
    ‘China will be no 1’ is the meme now.
    The dear leader tell the murkkan dumb fucks , ‘they rob your jobs’

    Ironically it’s a Korean murkkan who bore the blunt of anti Chinese hate crimes in a recent case.

    [I could swear that’s attilacunt !]

    [tip of an iceberg]

    See, TPTB always go for the no 1 peer competitor.
    in the 80 it was the jp, today its the Chinese.
    murkkan dumb fucks, aka WTS like Stan D Mute will beat up whoever their leader tell them is the current enemy.

    Thats why I always tell Indian sinophobes who gloated on current woes of China….
    ‘Be careful what you wish for, the day they clobber China, they will look for the ‘next super power’ to put down, presumably it’ll your country right ?

    The day they peddle ‘India as no 1’, its time you run for your life.
    In fact, the murmuring has become audible now….
    India the up and coming super power will eclipse China in the near future….
    watch out my friend.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  159. @KenH

    This is an evolutionary defect – resulting in the “culling of the West”. It is why we need what I have been calling for years “White Zion”, a teleological Racial State for Whites alone. Without that, racially strong Whites will not be able to band together and gain political control and institute survivalist legislation, as we are everywhere, but everywhere an ideo-political minority.

    We must ingather into a sovereign, territorially defensible nation which WE can numerically control.

  160. Seraphim says:

    In 1711 the Voevod of Moldova, Prince Dimitrie Cantemir concluded a Treaty of alliance with Tsar Peter the Great to fight the Ottomans. Unfortunately Russian defeat forced the Prince to take refuge in Russia. Being one of the most learned men of the time in matters of the Orient, the Tsar took him as a close advisor.
    In 1714 he wrote a pamphlet dedicated to Peter “Monarchiarum physica examinatio” (Examination of the nature of the monarchies – i.e Empires) in which, using an array of theological but also ‘naturalistic’ arguments, he announced the inevitable involution of the preceding Monarchies, the ‘Eastern’ -orientalem – Assyria, India, Persia, ‘Southern’ – meridionalem – Egypt, Africa, Macedonia, Greece and ‘Western’ – occidentalem – Rome and the inevitable rise of the last monarchy, the ‘Boreal Monarchy’ – Russia.

    Cantemir wrote the first history of the Ottoman Empire, which he considered a ‘runt’, a monster evolved contrary to the laws of nature (abortivus et exlex naturae foetus), an accumulation of evil energies which burn the earth. Cantemir wrote also a „Книга систима или состояние мухаммеданской религии” (The system of the Muhammadan religion) for the instruction of the future Russian officials in occupied Muslim lands.
    He was a member of the Berlin Academy, the creation of Leibniz, who was also the founder of the Imperial Academy of St. Petersburg. Leibniz designed (at the behest of the Emperor, no doubt) the plan of scientific investigation of Siberia with the ultimate goal to make it a bridge to China.

    But that was the policy of the Tsars since Ivan the Terrible. Before Peter, his father Alexey commissioned the Croat Jesuit Juraj Krizanic (in Russia on a mission to bring the Union of the Churches, for which he was sent to Siberia for a long period of time) to write a treatise on ‘Chinese Foreign Trade’ (1675) and a ‘History of Siberia’ (1680). He also sent the first diplomatic mission to China led by another Moldovan erudite Nicolae Milescu Spatarul, known as Nikolai Spathary – Spatar was an office) who was also a trusted advisor of the Tsar and developed the same ideas about the four empires and of Russia as the only legitimate successor of the Roman Empire.
    The “Great Game’ started with the realization, later expressed in the Mackinder alarmed warnings, that Russia was indeed ruling the ‘Heartland’ and terrestrial trade between this two giants would sink all the maritime commerce of the merchant-pirates. Hence all the attempts to sabotage any ‘Boreal Alliance’. Arctic alliance is an appropriate term too. These regions have always been described as being under the constellation of the Great Bear (Arktos)!

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  161. Bliss says:

    It would be in the interests of the NE Asian nations to voluntarily quarantine themselves from the West.

    Actually they tried that. But the West just wouldn’t leave them alone.

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  162. Bliss says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    I lived in Northern Ontario and yet the Native Americans are primitive and unintelligent as dirt.

    But they have the biggest brains being arctic mongoloids, like the Eskimos and Siberians. Therefore per HBD pseudoscience they should be the most intelligent of the Ice People, who are the master race of mankind.

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  163. j2 says:

    “What did Asians/blacks/Jews invent? Nothing.”

    Blacks invented bow and arrow. The earliest remains are 61,000 years ago from Africa. To Europe humans moved 50,000 years ago. Bow and arrow invention is pretty smart. Siberians or American Indians invented snowshoes. Australian Aborigines invented a boomerang. Sure they invented something, but to create the industrial revolution was needed first books by a book print, then a steam engine and then electricity. It requires a pretty advanced society to have those, not for wandering hunter-gatherer groups. Humans have enough brains to invent things, but the conditions must be favorable.

  164. Seraphim says:

    Chinese invented pretty everything!

  165. @attilathehen

    The Japanese are the only intelligent Asians. I could give the term Ice People to the Japanese, but not to any other Asians. The rest of the Asians are Sun People. His Chinese woman is brown.

    This is like saying “the English are the only intelligent Europeans”. It makes you sound terribly uninformed.

    • Replies: @attilathehen
  166. denk says:

    WTS want NEA students , property buyers OUT,
    what about NEA in their home land who want murkkan jackboots off their necks ?

    Best way is to build a wall all around USA, keep all NEA out, keep the murkkan locust army in, win-win for all.
    But god damned WTS say ‘no way’ !
    ‘We dont want any NEA , students, propert buyers, tourists, the lot ….including third gen NEA murkkans.
    But its nuthin wrong for us to take over the land of these inferior people, white colonisation is good for the native americans, the chinks/gooks/japs…’

    WTS wanna have their cake and eat it !

    Im not anti white, but WTS is a malignant abomination that menace the world, fact is, they pose an existential threat to the NEA, especially Chinese, WTS need to be culled.

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  167. @Medvedev

    6 of 10 here too. In a two horse race, that’s 60%. In a three horse race, that’s pretty good. Looks to me most of these chicks have had eye and nose surgery. They are crazy about Caucasian beauty standards. “Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon” cast Asian faces with bad guys, good guys with Caucasian features–exclusively. The good bandit boyfriend character passed for European. Even white people don’t look as good as the Asian version of white people.

  168. @dfordoom

    It’s not a built-in self-destruct device, merely self inflicted.
    Two million of them were imported from Eastern Europe between 1880 and 1920.

  169. @Seraphim

    Agree about Mackinder, the fucker’s caused a lot of trouble.

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  170. Seraphim says:
    @Bill Jones

    No less than two World Wars! So far. But they proved to be futile. Russia is still in command of the Heartland. The ‘Tellurocraties’ have always defeated the ‘Thalassocraties’. The aircraft carriers are floating coffins.

  171. Avery says:

    Very educational post.

    • Agree: European-American
  172. Bliss says:

    In terms of race, Ice People are the whites of Europe and European settler nations, together with the East Asians of China, Japan, Mongolia, Siberia, and Korea. Sun People are the rest…….we Ice People, the whites and the yellows, with mean IQs higher than the world average

    The delusions of a p-whipped fetishist suffering from yellow fever.

    Unfortunately for your fantasies, Derbyshire, history shows mostly hatred and war between the eastern and western branches of the “Ice People”. Remember the Huns, the Mongols, the Turks?

    Remember the Opium Wars, the Boxer Rebellion, Hiroshima & Nagasaki, the Korean War, the Vietnam War?

    And where is your love for the Ice People of North America who were turned into third class citizens in their own ancestral homelands?

    Besides, since you are an IQ-obsessive, the significantly lower IQ-ed European race would have to serve as junior partners at best in such an alliance. Way junior. For example, the difference in IQ between Ireland (92) and Hong Kong (108) is more than a standard deviation.

  173. denk says:

    murkkan jackboots off their necks

    But those were SK riot police roughing up the Jeju islanders ,whose ancestral homes had to give way to
    the massive Jeju naval base, see that bulldozer in the back ground ?

    Turns out this is yet another case of land grab leading from afar in Washington….

    ‘We have been following the daily brutal repression by as many as 1,500 Korean police and security forces of Jeju’s 1,500 residents whose voices of passionate and nonviolent opposition have been completely ignored. When we called the Korean Embassy in Washington, D.C. to ask why this deep-water port construction continues in Gangjeong over objections of more than 90 percent of its residents, the answer has been, “Don’t call us, call your own (U.S.) government.–not-for-the-first-time

    Im not anti white,
    Brian Wilson is a swell guy.
    The trouble are with the WTS, they’r rabid sinophobe and they’r calling the shots.
    For Chinese survival, WTS need to be culled.

  174. @European-American

    No. Look at Leon Haller comments nos. 155 and 156. He states exactly what I have stated. The Japanese are the only intelligent Asians who have created a first world nation. No other Asian nation has or will ever do this.

    There is one other interesting Asian country – India. Present day India (avg. IQ 82) is the product of miscegenation with Asians. However, the ancient Aryan Indians were the ones who created India and its great religious and philosophical texts. There is much to learn from the ancient Aryan Indians. India fascinated the Nazis. They traveled to India to look for the roots of the Aryans. Savitri Devi moved to India. I have recently started to read about ancient Hinduism. The depictions of their gods are always Aryan people. Of course, this does not mean we can allow Indians into the West. They are not related to any Caucasian people of the present.

    When we study the West we must keep in mind ancient India and Egypt. This is where the West started. These are the oldest countries in the world. When the Aryan Indians and Caucasian Egyptians “appeared” they began creating great civilizations. Now we know what destroyed them – mixing with Asians/blacks.

    For several years, idiots like Jeb Bush, Cindy Sheehan and others have stated that if they could go back in time they would kill baby Hitler, baby George W., or some other evil baby. Forget about Hitler and Bush. Think about how different the world would be if the ancient Aryan Indians and Caucasian Egyptians had not miscegenated and lost their intelligence.

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  175. @Bliss

    They seemed to have the same social pathology as real bottom-of-the-barrel white trash. Drugs, alcoholism, incest, small-time thuggery, prostitution

  176. @attilathehen

    Brahmin were never Caucasian. They were from Iran.

    Egyptians were never white.

    Greeks and Romans resembled Al Pacino, who plays Hispanics.

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  177. annamaria says:

    Thank you for the wonderfully detailed explanation.

  178. @Jeff Stryker

    You’re a yellow fever degenerate. Again, you live in Asia with an Asian woman and offspring. You are like Derbyshire, incapable of rational thought.

    DNA has shown that the ancient Egyptians were Caucasians. Look at present day Egyptians. 90% of them have black ancestry which is reflected in their low IQs (avg. Egyptian IQ is 84) and their present day civilizational development – there is none. Egypt is a shithole. What caused Egypt’s downfall? Mixing with blacks.

    Tha ancient Iranians were Aryans. Iran means Aryan. They started mixing with Asians and today Iranians are mostly an Asiatic people with an average IQ of 84. There is a small amount of Aryan presence in about 10% of northern Iranians. The late, great mathematician Maryam Mirzakhani is an example of this phenotype. Your Asian offspring will never be like this. Other than this small minority, Iran is a shithole.

    Al Pacino is Western, Caucasian, European. Western people have a gamut of coloration. You can look at Pacino and see he is a white man. No one will ever say that about your Asian offspring. “Hispanics” can be of any race, i.e., white, Amerindian, black. Again, your offspring are Asian.

    I know that you now see through world through slitted eyes. This is what happens when a round-eyed man gets swallowed by Asian poontang. I give you credit for moving to Asia. Deep down you regret what you have done. Too late. So now you trying to drag Westerners down to your degenerate level by making insane claims about race.

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  179. @attilathehen


    How would you know? You’re a townie who has lived in the same Podunk city or suburb your entire life. You’re a male townie who is probably a Gen Y who lives at home when he is far into his twenties.

    You’ve never been anywhere. And Asians don’t immigrate your region anyhow. They cluster along the West and East Coasts where there is a surplus economy.

    The Hispanics coming to America are poor Indians and some Mulatto. They are not Asian. A few of the ones in Florida are Cubans the color of Al Pacino descended from Spanish freebooters. But outside of these folks, the Hispanics you meet are Indians and Mestizos like Danny Trejo.

    At any rate, you’ve never been overseas so I am talking to a townie who knows nothing. You can never understand how free a man feels living in Dubai or Asia in a clean new block apartment or villa where there is no fear that blacks will move in down the street and start selling crack or somebody’s nephew will be a tweaker or one of the white trash next door will be a nutcase.

    As for interracial marriage, I do not have to foot the bill for the dead-eyed white wigger girls at the welfare office downtown in their cheap sweatpants with 10 dollar tramp stamp tattoos on their reamed-out asses showing through as they wait for the county to pay for their out-of-wedlock kids of a strange tinge with some feckless black thug they thought was streetwise and glamorous who fled the state years before on a warrant or some white wigger of the Eminem variety.

    I’ve been able to work and live abroad and through the years since I left in the last year of Bill Clinton’s presidency the US has swirled down the shitter. When I was in America people still lived in McMansions and Mexicans were confined to the Southwest barrios and 25 year old males did not have to live at home.

    The 90’s was not great but if you moved abroad then, you’d be amazed at how the US declined. The McMansions are empty and grown adults now live at home.

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  180. As a veteran witness and occasional participant in the migration debates on both sides of the Atlantic, though I agree that Fortress Europe (in a good, rational way) is absolutely taking hold as a practical concept among Europeans (and it’s equivalent already ingrained in NE Asians), I fear that “Fortress North” or “Fortress Arctic” will far, far too short for us in North America. For a pretty simple reason: White Europeans have a built-in moral high ground in that they can very easily point out that they are indigenous to that continent, plus on a practical level, despite the stupidity of politicians like Merkel or her fellow One-Worlders in Sweden, they’re still the heavy, heavy majority of the actual population in Europe, yes even amongst the young and student population. We in the US, Canada and the other “former colonies” aren’t so lucky, and then on top of that as a practical matter, we’re much farther gone in the actual demographics, the US K-12 student population is already majority non white and although Trump is doing his best administratively to sharply reduce immigration levels (legal immigration even more important than the illegal kind), even his policies aren’t limiting it quickly enough, so the demographic tide keeps going.

    I know this may sound like a trivial distinction for many readers here but it makes a huge difference in winning over the support of the masses of non red-pilled, politically apathetic “normies” (especially women) to the side of immigration restriction. And it’s why the populist parties are sweeping Europe while the US, even with Trump’s election, is unlikely to have a solid immigration restrictionist agenda over the long or even medium term (and possibly not even outlasting the 2018 mid-terms). The Open Borders activists in the NGO’s, media, academia and even some Chamber of commerce-style corporate outfits (read: the Cato Institute and basically anything funded by George Soros or Mark Zuckerberg) rely on a heaping dose of White Guilt to weaken arguments and policies that restrict the 3rd world invasion of the West. This unfortunately has a lot of power in North America, and among many Aussies and Kiwis, because these places had indigenous populations before being settled by Anglos, and then the slavery thing and war with Mexico… You get the picture. Add to that the dangerous fait accompli esp in the United States and Canada of their demographic transformation already well in progress, and the Soroses and Zuckerbergs are able to easily prevail over at least a sufficient proportion of the White Guilting, virtue-signaling normies that, in combination with the already vast non-white population here, immigration restriction is very hard to maintain.

    I’ve been shuttling for my job to the other side of the Atlantic periodically over the past 30 years, and I’ve seen something very different there which is why Festung Europa is fast becoming a reality there. The populist parties and supporters of immigration restriction in Europe make a simple, but accurate and resonating argument to back up their cause: white people in Europe are indigenous there. So by the basic human-rights arguments of the usual group of virtue-signalers in academia, the whites in Europe have an absolute right and duty to keep the mass immigration, which they rightly see as an invasion, out of their homes. Sure, the Soroses and Zuckerbergs will try a different sort of White Guilting with the “but, but… colonialism!” argument but they quickly show themselves up as hypocrites. The entire moral agenda of the anti-colonial movement was based on indigenous peoples expelling the invaders, and whatever knots the leftists (and cheap-labor corporatists) try to make against this, they fall flat when Europeans realize the populists are agitating for the same thing, especially given how ugly and oppressive Islam is towards women and girls. And on top of that most of Europe had nothing to do with all the colonial B.S. which is why it was ultimately central and esp Eastern European countries that ultimately forced Angela Merkel to capitulate to the will of the people (including the German people who by a large margin, want Merkel to step down). The colonialism guilting works only a little bit in Britain for some reason but even there, I don’t see it taking hold long-term, even in South Asia let alone in Africa, the British really weren’t there that long (in most cases less than a century) compared to the millennia of history in these countries.

    My sense of it is, that’s what John Derbyshire is seeing in those comments that are almost unanimously harsh on Paul Taylor and universally support the moves to expel all the migrants and finance detention centers on the southern borders of the north African countries and Middle East. The indigenous Europeans are waking up to the fact that, as the indigenous people of the continent, they not only have the moral and strategic right to establish Fortress Europe and keep outside immigration to a minimum– at least outside of European kin from the Americas and a very controlled number of skilled workers from Asia– they can even use the Left’s own shaming arguments against them and show them up as hypocrites. Not to mention that European women are more willing nowadays to team with men there in supporting the populist and identitarian movements due to the simple fact of indigeneity, and because the Muslims with their medieval attitudes towards women are hard to connect to progressive values and the Enlightenment with even a bit of forethought. So immigration restriction in Europe is able to forge coalitions and broad normie support in Europe fairly easily, helped along by Europe’s multi-party systems where proportionate representation makes a difference, and by the inability of corporations to buy politicians the way they do in the US.

    This is much tougher for us in America because the moral lines are more blurred. And then it’s made even worse because the cultural Marxist left in the US, Australia and Canada gets a lot of support from the libertarian, open-borders corporate “right” that wants cheap and cheaper slave labor from the 3rd world. Any conservative who cheered that Citizen United Supreme Court decision opening up US elections to mass corporate donations, was a total fool. If you’re a conservative who’s opposed to the mass demographic change of America into a non-Western country, then the corporations are not your friends, because they want to swamp our your community with immigrant cheap labor. Even Trump hasn’t managed to roll this back much and it’s so far, IMHO the biggest shortcoming of his presidency, although at least he’s moving in the right direction. Trump has been steeply reducing legal immigration, but not nearly enough yet. In fact I’m very surprised he hasn’t acted more forcefully to put a halt to the L-1 visa and the H1-b. These cheap and cheaper labor visas have got to be some of the worst depressants around for the white birth rate in the US because they lead to downward pressure on jobs and incomes in the very fields, like tech and STEM, that are best to provide a steady income and support a family in expensive US regions. They don’t even have much political support in either party or ethnic lobbies to back them, and Trump would score huge political points among all voters by basically shutting them totally down and telling US companies they instead need to invest in hiring and training American workers, who after all will spend more money in America instead of sending remittances overseas, and help these companies even more. While having more kids and spending even more money.

    Why Trump hasn’t just completely closed down the H1-b and L-1 especially, which really have no friends outside of a few corporate cronyist types, is for me one of the biggest mysteries of his presidency so far. It would be the right thing to do, massively boost up the job reliability and income, and thus the fertility rate of white Americans. And gain him a lot of political capital.

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    , @dfordoom
  181. Anonymous [AKA "Peter Call"] says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Funny how these open borders types like Paul Taylor (nee Cohen) come out so loudly for mass immigration from Africa and the Middle East into their, uh, “adopted” countries in Europe, North America and Australia. And yet never seem to call for the same for Israel. In fact Israel put up a big wall and aggressively tried to deport all those Eritreans, Sudanese, Syrians, Somalis and Egyptians refugees who were pouring. At least until some corners started calling bullsh!t on their hypocrisy and they began trying to do it more quietly.

    In fact every time one of these guys (always nee Cohen or something like it would seem) goes on his guilt tripping tirade against Euros or Americans or Aussies for not letting in the whole world’s worth of 5 billion people stuck in dreaded poverty due to corruption, we should comment, write letters and of course, e-mail them and ask why Israel won’t let in a few million more of these desperate migrants to add some “vibrancy” to Israel’s stale society. C’mon, Israel, what’s wrong with a few million colorful and diverse migrants from Muslim countries and Africa coming to set up shop? It’s what your people are always pushing on the rest of the world so why not the same for yourselves? Hypocrites much?

  182. @X-Atlanticus

    The United States has ALWAYS had a race problem with blacks and Mestizos back to colonial times before Texas was a state.

    The ructions in Latin American beanbag hellholes has worsened things and NAFTA enabled it but the problems of being on the border with a Third World country and importing a load of slaves was a problem from the beginning.

    A non-majority white US will simply look like more of Detroit or East Los Angeles while Australia and New Zealand import Chinese millionaires who subject the whites to the same market-dominant merchant exclusion that the Filipinos suffered from Chinese immigration-the Filipino lives in a squat and the New Zealand white will live in his car.

    The US has vast amounts of space and the suburbs of white refugees will simply spread into Alaska.

    However, in the past, white middle class Americans could make the money to get away from blacks and Hispanics. With Gen Y, they are still living in their basement when the neighborhood disintegrates.

  183. @Jeff Stryker

    Your degeneracy and stupidity are staggering.

    I studied at the University of Vienna. I have traveled to Europe, Mexico and many states in the USA.
    I am tri-lingual (European languages). What languages do you speak? Tagalog? Vietnamese? Thai? They must have some great literature.

    There are only 3 racial groups: Caucasoids, Mongoloid, Negroids. Latin American Indians are Mongoloids – Asiatics like your Asian family). There are many blacks in Brazil, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Venezuela.

    Again, you willingly chose to move to the great shithole that is Asia. I’ll bet you don’t live in Japan. Your outrageous criticism of Caucasians shows a hatred for having chosen to degenerate while most Caucasians have not degenerated like you. As bad as the USA has been (it is changing for the better under Trump), as you sit on the floor with your bowl of rice and your ugly, low IQ Asian family around you, you cry on the inside for having chosen such a horrible life. There is nothing you can do. You have damned yourself to hell. Again, I am grateful you did not import your degeneracy to the West.

  184. @attilathehen

    “Great shithole”

    Nowhere in Tokyo or Hong Kong looks as bad as Detroit or Appalachia or the average barrio. Nowhere. If you went to school in Vienna then tell me somewhere in Austria as poor and derelict as Pittsburgh, for example.

    “Rice bowl”

    Why do think so many US retirees move to Manila or other parts of Southeast Asia? Especially military vets? Because with a fixed-income in the US they’d be into the dog food. And there’d be a section Ape down the street so they have to bolt their doors like the peasants in Transylvania against vampires at night. You’re relatively safe in Manila or Singapore.

    “Having chosen such an ugly life”

    I’d have committed suicide if I had had to stay in Phoenix or Detroit around Cholos or blacks. I felt free as bird in Dubai working in my chosen profession and vacationing in India. Philippines had its tough moments but I can call someone any name I want and behave as sexist as I want. If I get into a scrape, I just pay the cops a bribe (I have). No worries. I get better medical than I would in the United States for the money. The beer is cheap and I can go down to the beach or hike the ancient mountains outside my house. I’m not complaining about Jews and then having another masturbation session on the internet to Jewish porn because I cannot get laid.

    Sure, I miss Detroit everyday.

    “Import your degeneracy to the West”

    The US GOT MORE degenerate after I left. In the 1990’s during the Clinton era things were rocky for the white middle class but it was after I left in 1999 and Bush came into the White House that the country really went downhill. In my day white girls had a tiny dolphin tattoo and less of them were having babies with black thugs out-of-wedlock and the Cholos were skateboarding instead of swinging machetes and the only homeless whites were crack heads.

    Of course you know none of this because you are a white prole who is not in fact some moneyed Jewish American Princess or middle-aged but just a Gen Y Return of Kings type who is trolling.

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    , @attilathehen
  185. dfordoom says: • Website

    and because the Muslims with their medieval attitudes towards women are hard to connect to progressive values and the Enlightenment with even a bit of forethought.

    Progressive values and the Enlightenment are what destroyed us. Mediaeval attitudes towards women were considerably more sensible than modern western attitudes.

    I fear you’ve been infected by the Poz.

  186. @Tono Bungay

    ‘Maybe it’s time to abandon the Stop Immigration gear and shift into the Start Expulsion gear.’

    Already happening in a lot of Europe, and in most unexpected of places. The EU and national leaders are sufficiently dry and bureaucratic about it to go try and minimize the headlines but it’s 100% in gear, in fact more by self-deportation than direct deportation as the gravy-train shuts down and the bureaucratic walls go up. Germany has completely changed it’s ways after Merkel’s electoral disaster last September, the AFD took a wrecking ball to Merkel’s delusions and cost them so many seats that, Germany didn’t have a government at all for almost 6 months. And both the SPD and CDU had their worst result in over 50 yrs, the SPD already circling the drain as the AFD now becomes the opposition and even gains on the tottering CDU. The deadlock broke only when Merkel surrendered in February to just nearly everything the immigration opponents demanded, including putting Horst Seehoffer of the CSU in as Interior minister, and he’s the anti-Merkel. The SPD was brought in as part of a grand coalition but only for the finance ministries, the hardliners now fully control the immigration side of things and they’ve gotten all they demanded. The Syrians all denied family reunification while the Iraqis and Afghans (except for a few Christian converts) have to leave, no welfare, expulsion for even minor violations, forbidden to practice Islam publicly, dress codes (no burkas and veils can lead to asylum disontinuance).

    And, a lot of other subtle but effective moves. Since most of the Syrian “refugees” were really just welfare-shopping econ migrants (otherwise why didn’t they stop in their first safe country, like Turkey before going to Europe), almost none have bothered to do things like actually work, learn the language or start a business, and many are still using stolen passports, and with Seehoffer, all of these are justifications for asylum denial or denial of benefits. As they realize the bureaucracy and officials have turned against them, and there’s no longer a free money gravy-train to abuse, large majority of the Syrians and other migrants are just leaving on their own to join family back home. It’s gotten so harsh for them that by some accounts, thousands of Syrians are leaving each day from Germany, Sweden and Holland (similar policies) and using smugglers to go the other way–back into Turkey, Sudan or Lebanon, where some stay and others go back to Syria, where after all, the war is basically over.

    Angela Merkel unsurprising is crying about this and the nasties like Seehoffer who won’t indulge her One World fantasies, but the up-shot is Seehoffer has her stuck in a vice-grip. If she ever opposes his demands which get always more tough and strident, then the CSU pulls out and collapses her government, with the AFD gaining more and more seats with every election. So she’s stuck and has no choice except just more surrender now.

    Same in France. Emmanuel Macron is nothing if not a chameleon, the stupid MSM types in the Anglo press at least thought he was going to be the leftist antidote to the populists when in reality Macron has enacted their agenda, just in a smarter and more effective way than the Front Nationale could. Not to mention Marine Le Pen kept babbling on that dumb idea of “Frexit” which would accomplish nothing other then making France more dependent on migrants from it’s ex-colonies- at least in the EU, France now gets most of it’s immigration from south and east Europe instead, which is the one ting the European Union is most good for. (Sadly this is what’s happened to UK due to Brexit, the Estonians and Bulgarians aren’t going their anymore, now British “labor needs” are being filled by Nigerians and Ugandans instead, prob not what Brexiteers had in mind for Britain..) And credit where due, Nicholas Sarkozy did turn France very hard immigration restrictionist in 2006 and -7 with laws that aren’t much far off from Japan’s. Laws that cut French immigration down to the lowest levels in Europe relative to country’s size, so the EU migration to France, plus a healthy dose of Russians, Ukraineans, Brasilians, Canadians and Americans is more than enough to fill French labor needs. And now Macron has made the move, like you wisely advocate, to active deportation. In addition to telling Africans straight-off to reduce their childbearing and stay in Africa, he’s been busy deporting and expelling more Muslims and the African population than anyone.

    Like in Germany the reasons for deportations from France are quietly bureaucratic, little visa violations or petty crimes, lack of status adjustment, or violation of security laws France can now deport even African and Muslim full citizens if they preach in a radical mosque, loosely interpreted and kicking out their families and associates too, and they do. This is a subtle reasons for all the mosque closures. But also like in Germany, it’s mostly self-deportation. The French ” lois de sécurité” and dress code laws are the harshest in Europe (except for maybe Belgium’s now) and it’s an open-secret they’re designed to make things miserable for the Muslim and African population there. If you can read French,

    Unlike England or Canada, where a white person there gets tossed in prison for even softly saying something critical of Islam, in France even the authorities are totally up with it. As is the public- one thing that amazes me about France, is how they don’t pull punches when criticizing Islam or the African population, they’re even more un-PC about it than Russians as far as I’ve seen. Even over the past month, while US media were bleating on about France’s “rainbow” soccer team, the French themselves were openly celebrating how finally, in Antoine Griezmann, they have a sports hero who (unlike Henry, Noah or Zidane) is a100% (read: white) Frenchman, “un vari francais”. They have an ambivalent attitude about Zidane since he not only passes for white French but constantly goes on about how he and other Berbers really are white– the “true Berbers” (Amizigh) in N. Africa hate the Arabs and constantly point out how they’re as white as Europeans are, but that’s a curiosity for another article..

    Point is in France, like in Germany even though there’s official deportation, it’s mostly self-deportation back to North Africa, sub-Saharan Africa and Turkey, where many economies are also doing at least OK, that’s leading to the result you’ve brought up. Italy, Sweden, Finland, Holland, Denmark- same thing. The Start Expulsion has already started, at least in Europe. It’s just that it’s not much on the radar of media.

  187. Seraphim says:

    No need of any importation. The West produced its own degeneracy.

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  188. @Bliss

    The Japanese successfully did that for nearly 300 years during the Tokugawa era. Those times are considered a period of great cultural flourishing in Japan. Of course the Americans and Commodore Perry couldn’t leave well enough alone. How did that turn out for everyone?

  189. Seraphim says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    The ‘bowl of rice’ (which accompany any Asian meal) is infinitely more delicious than the shit called ‘burgers’. And the Tsingtao or Singh beers are so much better than the horse-piss called Budweiser.

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  190. @attilathehen

    Jeff did not import degeneracy to the West, but you did, with your worship of a “dirty, rude, and dumb” Asian savior. Must be the Asiatic Hun in you, with which you publicly identify.

  191. dfordoom says: • Website

    The West produced its own degeneracy.

    And it’s degeneracy on a scale that no previous civilisation has been able to approach. It’s an awesome achievement.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  192. @Seraphim

    If this is true than why are McDonald’s and Burger Kings everywhere on the planet?

    At any rate I like Italian food the best.

    As for beer, Thai stuff is okay but I like British beers far better.

    And Budweiser is Czech, not American.

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    , @Seraphim
  193. @dfordoom

    “Degeneracy no other civilization on a scale”

    I’ve read that 1 in 4 Japanese young women will participate in pornography in their life. Some ridiculous number of young Japanese women are now porn stars. You might be marrying a girl who did a Bukkake video.

    We could also talk about Aztec sacrifice and cannibalism in Asia but never mind.

    The real issue is that the West does degeneracy WELL. Our mass media panders best to the common denominator. We INVENT things like “double anal” and crack cocaine (Well that was invented Jamaicans but anyhow). We came up with fast food. And so on.

  194. @Jeff Stryker

    So, basically, you live in the shithole Philippines with your Flip woman and low IQ Flip offspring.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  195. Seraphim says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    Real Budweiser-Budvar produced at Budweiser Budvar Brewery of České Budějovice, is naturally Czech and is one of the best in the world.
    Budweiser is an “American-style pale lager produced by Anheuser-Busch, currently part of the transnational corporation Anheuser-Busch InBev. Introduced in 1876 by Carl Conrad & Co. of St. Louis, Missouri… It is made with up to 30% rice in addition to hops and barley malt… Anheuser–Busch has been involved in a trademark dispute with European beer companies, in particular the Budweiser Budvar Brewery of České Budějovice…
    The Budweiser trademark dispute is an ongoing series of legal disputes between two beer companies (from the Czech Republic and the United States) who claim trademark and geographic origin rights to the name “Budweiser”. The dispute has been ongoing since 1907, and has involved more than 100 court cases around the world. As a result, Budweiser Budvar has the rights to the name Budweiser in much of Europe and Anheuser-Busch InBev has this right in North America. Consequently. ABI uses the name Bud in most of Europe and Budvar sells its beer in North America under the name “Czechvar”. In other territories, one or other or even both may use the name, depending on local trademark law”.
    A funny comment I found on the net:
    “(Budweiser is) the absolute symbol of the low quality of American macro beers. The next time you see a typical Hollywood cowboy ask for ‘a Bud’, just know that he is just another patriot who wants to show his manliness by drinking the piss of all national symbols at once: the American eagle, the mountain lion and the skunk, now in one handy little bottle. Bud Light is even worse. It’s the same piss mix, only more watery. At that’s not all. The beer group Anheuser-Busch InBev seemed to have made it their holy task to spoil the whole world with nasty beers, producing brands like Corona, Brahma, Stella Artois and Skol”[email protected]://
    Ditto for Coke and MacDonald and Burger King. A Wiener schnitzel and a Wiener Würstchen are certainly better.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  196. Seraphim says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    BTW Italians do ‘Slow food’. That’s why their food is, if not the best, so good. Anti-MacDonald.

  197. @attilathehen

    LOW IQ

    1) Asian women are not stacked up at every welfare office in the US interior with some Mulatto orphan whose black thug father in the pen or running from some Federal beef has not spared a single thought to her since he zipped his fly up. That would be poor rural white Protestant girls from the US exurbs and Podunk towns. Weirdly enough, though Jewish girls are mostly the ones doing porn, they don’t end up as a single mother with an out-of-wedlock kid from some black thug or worthless Eminem wigger. You have to go to Greater Detroit or Indiana or Missouri for that.

    2) Asian women are not the vast majority of females out peddling their ass at the truck stops for some black pimp who swept them out of a strip joint because they smoked crack cocaine or meth and got hooked. That would be white Protestant girls from the exurbs or the lower-income suburbs of the Podunk cities and regions. Its not even a Guidette or Jewish American Princess thing. White women who peddle ass in Detroit or Chicago tend to have come up the hillbilly highway at some point. Oh, there are some Asian women in massage parlors and strip joints but the real scabby sorry prostitutes doing the bottom-rung sex work are white, female and usually Protestant.

    Philippines is a bad place. I’d agree with anyone who stated that. I had to live there for business and eventually had a run-in with Chinese-Filipinos due to my actual workplace environment.

    However, the average white US retiree will tell you HE IS SAFER in Manila than he would be in his own backyard because there are not blacks or Hispanics. Even a hellhole like the Philippines is safer for the working middle class or lower class white male.

    I probably could have gotten sex from any number of white women in Detroit but most of my friends have either a) been divorce-raped b) struggled to raise their kids in a decent environment because when money is tight you are in proximity with blacks or Hispanics who are harmful and c) wanted to travel the world and get laid with more than one woman in my entire life. I enjoy being worldly as oppose to a besieged white prole who gets the phone call that his daughter was raped by black in the public school hallway or has to bolt his door at night like the peasants in Transylvania.

    Also, cops tend to hassle ordinary working Joe types like me all the time in the US trying to make a quota. Overseas, they ignore you.

    So I’m free because I don’t give a shit about anything the US has to offer and a white woman’s expectations are not worth meeting and on top of it all Cholos and Hood Rats cannot afford to travel.

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  198. @Seraphim

    I don’t know why non-Americans obsess over such things. No American cares a whit what some other nationality drinks or if what food they eat.

    As for “cowboys”, this is similar to meeting an English butler in real life when most of the Brits you meet overseas are Lager louts and Chavs.

    But of course in addition to US fast food the rest of the world is gorged on American shit media-films and television.

    So they imagine every American lives in Texas and has not healthcare and voted for George Bush.

    Its a load of garbage, of course.

    • Replies: @Seraphim
  199. @denk


    The US can do no more than levy some tariffs on you which you then cleverly respond to by going after the poor whites who voted for Trump by taxing their agricultural exports to China.

    America would no more invade China than it would have invaded Japan in the 1980’s.

    “Go after India”

    Sure, Americans will leap from planes into Mumbai to do…what? The Indian high-caste that runs the country is in Trump’s pocket anyhow because they have a mutual problem with Pakistan.

    The US is FULL of Chinese-Americans. Packed with them. And they do not seem worried.

    So why are you?

  200. Seraphim says:
    @Jeff Stryker

    I do not ‘obsess’. I was just comparing, offering my own experience of the ‘bowl of rice’.

  201. @Jeff Stryker

    And yet, Thailand, the Philippines, etc., are famous/infamous for their sex tours. Methinks you have “buyer’s remorse” about Asia. Fine, as long as you stay there.

    • Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  202. @attilathehen

    Chinese women are actually smarter about prostitution. It is usually a business decision and not the result of a runaway meth or crack cocaine habit.

    Jewish women, for that matter, are more likely to be doing pornography. But again, this is a sober business decision.

    If you were to hit “crack row” or the truck stops, the women being paid a pittance for sex acts will be white, rural, Protestant. They will often have a Mulatto baby at home or a black pimp.

  203. m___ says:

    Your comment is legit. Although going into more empirical detail, while our projection contributes more to the issue of theoretically and principally situating the phenomenon migration, regardless.

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