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What I call “Demographic conservatism”—the instinctive tendency to want to live among people who closely resemble yourself in appearance, manners, dress style, language, and religion, the package we call “culture,” except that race is a component too—is a major factor in what I’ve been calling the Cold Civil War between Goodwhites and Badwhites. The latest skirmish: the recent special election for Jeff Sessions’ Senate seat in Alabama. The Republican candidate, Roy Moore, lost by a whisker—one and a half percent.

My dismay is both rational and emotional.

  • I’m rationally dismayed because the U.S. Senate is now a tad less likely to pass patriotic immigration reform.

The Democrat, Doug Jones, is pretty much a nullity on the National Question. A site search on the “Doug Jones for Senate” website using the search string “immigr” got no hits.

Jones did respond to a questionnaire from NumbersUSA, but his responses were deeply uninformative.

I doubt there’s any deliberate cunning here. My guess is that Doug Jones has just never given ten seconds’ continuous thought to the National Question except as it concerns American blacks, who he believes are held back from full and equal participation in American society by irrational prejudice and discrimination.

Probably he thinks about other minorities—Hispanics, Muslims, homosexuals—through the same prism, to the degree he thinks about them at all.

My rational dismay is tempered somewhat by the reflection that the U.S. Senate is in any case not likely to pass true immigration reform.

Democratic Senators are lockstep for open borders. That’s not an exaggeration: The report grades for immigration reduction at the NumbersUSA website have every single Democrat in the U.S. Senate graded F-minus—every damn one.

The GOP presents more variety, but there are fourteen F-minuses there, too, along with one regular F, five Ds, and twenty-nine Cs. One of the Cs is Luther Strange, who’ll now be replaced by Doug Jones, a sure F-minus once he gets down to voting.

In case you lost track of the arithmetic there, that leaves just three Republican Senators unaccounted for. They break one A and two Bs. The A is Tom Cotton of Arkansas; the Bs are Ted Cruz of Texas and David Perdue of Georgia.

Chance of getting an immigration moratorium from this crowd, or legislation against Birthright Citizenship, or a proper entry-exit visa tracking system, or an end to co-operation with the United Nations bogus-refugee program, or a really secure southern border? Zero, zero, zero, zero, and zero—with or without Roy Moore.

  • My emotional dismay is that Roy Moore, with all his many flaws, is an instinctive and dogged counter-revolutionary.

I loathe and fear the cultural revolution that’s sweeping over our country. I’ll gladly vote, and encourage others to vote, for anyone who stands athwart this cultural revolution crying “Stop!”

And then there’s my lingering affection for the old, weird America—the America of honky-tonks and freak shows, of sleepy towns in the hollows and corn liquor stills in the woods, of Leadbelly and Junior Johnson, of carny barkers and hellfire preachers.

Yes, of course I know there were downsides. I already told you: This is emotion, not reason. Roy Moore, with all his downsides, reflects echoes of that old, weird America. I like that.

Enough about my preferences, though. Let’s do a little analysis here. What does Tuesday’s Alabama vote tell us?

Nothing new that I can see.

Blacks and ethnomasochist whites in college towns voted Democrat. Some other whites who couldn’t stomach either party’s candidate wrote in someone else. There weren’t many of those write-ins, but there were enough to swing the vote. If all 22,811 of them had voted for Moore, he would have won by more than two thousand votes.

So Roy Moore’s colorful personality was a factor in his defeat. So, as’s James Kirkpatrick pointed out, was GOP Establishment sabotage—and Moore’s lackadaisical approach to campaigning.

The exit polls show that black voters turned out in force and voted with exceptional solidarity. They went 96 percent for the Democrat. Black women went for him 98 percent.

Among whites the sex gap went the opposite way. White men went 72 percent for Roy Moore; white women only 63 percent.

Is this a Cat Lady phenomenon? Were white married women more likely to vote for Roy Moore? I can’t tell you. The only exit polling I’ve seen breaks out black from white and parents from non-parents, but not the cross-products: white parents, black childless, etc. Asking about married or not married is probably obsolete, since a majority of blacks with children in the home, along with a swelling minority of whites, are unmarried.

We do see, though, that blacks, and especially black women, vote their skin. They’ll vote for a black if one is available. If none is, they will vote for whichever candidate is perceived as more anti-white.

In my infamous column “The Talk” at Taki’s Magazine I opined that

A small cohort of blacks—in my experience, around five percent—is ferociously hostile to whites and will go to great lengths to inconvenience or harm us.

I still think I got that about right. There are, though, degrees of antipathy less intense than ferocious hostility. Way more than five percent of American blacks just don’t like whites, and will always vote for the blackest or most anti-white candidate, regardless of issues.

Put those blacks together with white gentry ethnomasochists and whites who were turned off by Roy Moore, and you get Tuesday’s result.

Following the Alabama race, I found myself thinking, as I sometimes have in regard to our current President, that I’d welcome a smaller gap in political skill and credibility between the singer and the song.

I am personally acquainted with many people who sing the song: the song, I mean, of patriotism, traditionalism, prudence, and—yes, here I get to deploy my neologism—demographic conservatism. Every one of them is sober, thoughtful, polite, well-read, and well-informed.

Yet the only singers of that song, or anything close to it, on the national political stage this past few months have been Donald Trump and Roy Moore.

Trump, with all due respect to the office of the President, and all thanks to Heaven that I am not living under the iron heel of Mrs. Clinton—Trump had never heard of the nuclear triad. Roy Moore had never heard of DACA.

I supported both men, and would support them again, given the alternatives. But can’t National Conservatism do better?

Meanwhile the question hangs in the air: “How much of a one-off is this? Is it representative of anything, predictive of any big thing? Or not?”

Without trying hard I can make the case that it’s very representative of Western-world politics in our time.


Here I get to deploy my neologism again. “Demographic conservatism”: just practice it, roll it around on your tongue a couple more times. Then consider the following features of the Alabama vote. I’ll allow they are implicit features of the vote: but implicit or explicit, the policy outcomes will be the same.

  • One: Very close to fifty percent of the electorate—well-nigh all of them legacy whites—voted for demographic conservatism.
  • Two: Very close to fifty percent of the electorate—a coalition of ethnomasochist whites, legacy non-whites, and recent immigrants—voted for demographic change.

Which looks remarkably like the Brexit vote in the U.K. a year and a half ago.

All over the Western world today— in the U.S.A. and Britain, in Europe and Australia—demographic conservatism is more and more a thing.

Sooner or later, I hope and believe, it will bring forth politicians more skillful and more credible than Roy Moore.

Then there will be real change, change that immigration patriots can cheer on whole-heartedly.2010-12-24dl[1]

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by com:FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

(Republished from VDare by permission of author or representative)
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  1. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Why is this author published here so relentlessly when he has only a handful of things to say? His recycled racebait is even more tiresome when force fit into Mr. Derbyshire’s address of another subject.

    The Piers Morgan of The Dissident Right, Inc.

  2. I’ll post this one more time, because I think it’s pretty good. I reckon Derb might consider me a representative of the old, weird America.

    Roy Moore Post-Election Sling-Blade Attack

    To all my late-seventies ladies
    Who were over the hill by the eighties—
    May you treacherous hoes
    Go where every ho goes:
    Some call it Hell, I call it Hades.

  3. SBaker says:

    Best article yet since the Rat party stole this election, outspending Roy by double and the slanderous conviction by a disgustingly corrupt old media empire.

  4. @anonymous

    Because what he has to say concerns the most important challenge to the West since the Holy Roman Empire and Poles defeated the Ottomans at Vienna.

    Please define “racebait.”

    Is pointing out that blacks consistently vote as a cohesive block – more than 90% – for the most anti-white party considered racebaiting?

    Is pointing out that immigrants consistently vote overwhelmingly for the most anti-white party considered racebaiting?

    Is pointing out that the Democrats (and many Republicans) favor importing a new people – many of whom are hostile to whites – to tip the scales in their favor (and to provide corporations with cheap labor)?

    It seems you have a problem with a writer that points out pertinent facts about our society and choose to call him a racist to get him to stop. Burn the Witch!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @anonymous
  5. nsa says:

    A bigger question is why the toxic jooies and their almost total control of the info / image stream (joonet, flat screen joobox, joovies) get a pass with the deep thinker, Derbyshire? Is everyone here to overlook the author’s overlooking of the obvious?

  6. Hail says: • Website
    @the one they call Desanex

    Good work; I would have went with ‘lying’ or a poetic variant, instead of ‘treacherous’ which may imply their stories were true.

  7. El Dato says:

    > relentlessly published

    The emotional labor of seeing a new article by Derbyshire appear every week or so is just immense.

    That burden we cannot bear!

  8. @Hail

    Thanks. I think the first two lines already imply that at least some of the accusations were true. Somebody (I don’t remember who—maybe Derb) said that the most serious allegations were not credible, and the most credible were not serious.

  9. Roy Moore’s loss was due to Roy Moore’s personal failings, it has nothing to do with how people feel about conservatism. He won the primary against Luther Strange by a landslide, and would’ve won by the same margin against Doug Jones if it weren’t for the damaging stories coming out of WaPo about him and underage girls. The GOP’s abandonment of him especially by Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan really damaged him.

    If Mo Brooks had won the primary, he would’ve won against Doug Jones by a landslide. AL is still AL. Nothing’s changed. It’s just people weren’t motivated to come out and vote for Roy Moore because they feel iffy about him after all the allegations.

  10. There are four kinds of people in the world.

    1. Those who say ‘they do it wrong, so we should do it wrong too.’

    2. Those who say ‘they do it wrong, so we should say it is wrong.’

    3. Those who say ‘they do it right, so we should do it wrong.’ (To take advantage of those who do it right.)

    4. Those who say ‘they do it right, so we should do it right.’

    2 and 4 are becoming rarer with Diversity where Rule of Law never applies fairly.

  11. @the one they call Desanex

    I wrote a total of four Roy Moore limericks. Here are the other three in one big lump:

    Cast your ballots for me, Judge Roy Moore.
    I serve only the God we adore.
    Uncle Sam is a fag,
    And that Liberty hag
    Is a filthy miscegenous whore!

    They’re saying that I, Judge Roy Moore,
    Once fondled the tits of some whore.
    Once-bodacious jugs
    Now droopy-ass dugs,
    I swear I won’t touch ’em no more.

    3. I entitled this one Alabama Accent (I give them titles when I think it helps to clarify the meaning of the poem)

    Roy Moore might’ve done thangs he shooten.
    He don’t claim he’s a saint—he cooten.
    While I don’t say he ditten,
    From whur I’m a-sittin’,
    If given the chance, boys—Who wooten?

  12. @anonymous

    “Why is this author published here so relentlessly when he has only a handful of things to say? “

    He is published here so relentlessly because it pleases me that he is relentlessly published here. And the second-biggest reason why I desire his relentless publishing is that it serves to advance my program for annoying and irritating Your Trollishness.

    My evil plan seems to be working quite well, so far. Just wait until I initiate Phase II!

  13. Corvinus says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    “Because what he has to say concerns the most important challenge to the West since the Holy Roman Empire and Poles defeated the Ottomans at Vienna.”

    Hate to break it to you, but few white people refer to themselves as “the West” and do not have your same perspective regarding this challenge. More power to you to convince white people of your ideological stances.

    “Is pointing out that blacks consistently vote as a cohesive block – more than 90% – for the most anti-white party considered racebaiting?”

    Or pointing out that southrons (NOT white southerners, there is a fundamental difference) and white nationalists and wealthy whites also vote as a cohesive block.

    “Is pointing out that immigrants consistently vote overwhelmingly for the most anti-white party considered racebaiting?”

    Except the United States does not observably have an “anti-white” political party.

    “Is pointing out that the Democrats (and many Republicans) favor importing a new people – many of whom are hostile to whites – to tip the scales in their favor (and to provide corporations with cheap labor)?”

    Not importation, immigration. And so what if corporations desire “cheap labor”? Do they not have the liberty to make those decisions when it comes to their own property? for the benefit of stockholders? Should not companies be able to exercise freedom of association?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    , @Discard
  14. Dr. Doom says:

    Behold Corvinus the jew. He sayeth he not liking you. To disagree is hating, the race is awaiting. He’s chosen to lie to all of you. The blackbird, the crow, and even the raven. Not White or polite, but always contrite. Saying you’re bad for not doing what’s told. It matters not how the sad song gets old. Do not see what he is, or what he and his kind do. Do not see or else, its not see be you.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  15. Issac says:

    “Or pointing out that southrons (NOT white southerners, there is a fundamental difference) and white nationalists and wealthy whites also vote as a cohesive block.”

    Demonstrably not the case, hence Moore’s loss.

    “Except the United States does not observably have an “anti-white” political party.”

    I somewhat agree with this, for the wrong reasons, as both of your major parties are anti-white in so far as neither value the continued political self-determination of the white American population. In so far as there are pro-white politicians, they are exceptions on the right. For that reason, it would be fair to say that the left is uniformly anti-white.

    “Should not companies be able to exercise freedom of association?”

    Individuals being denied freedom of association and corporations being the political equivalent of individuals, apparently not.

  16. John Derbyshire:

    The exit polls show that black voters turned out in force and voted with exceptional solidarity. They went 96 percent for the Democrat. Black women went for him 98 percent.

    Does J.D. read his commenters at UR? If so I would invite him to look up the comment I made on James Kirkpatrick’s post of December 13 2017 (MSM Triumphs as GOP Establishment Sabotages Winnable Alabama Senate Race), where I drew attention to what I see as a crucial factor in Doug Jones’s win. Black voters didn’t just “turn out”: the black vote was brought out by a well-financed , shrewdly-planned and well-targeted effort involving a ground force of Dem operatives.

    My comment quotes at length a description of how it was achieved from one of the organisers. Their success tells me that they will want to repeat and even refine the strategy to pick off other vulnerable GOP targets. No-one has so far responded to my comment. Maybe that means that, as a non-American outsider, I was getting unnecessarily alarmist about further electoral setbacks for J.D’s “demographic conservatism”. Nevertheless, I still think that:

    Even with a less complacent candidate than Roy Moore, the GOP in Alabama would have been threatened by what is beginning to look like a “resourced”, efficient, determined electoral machine. They shouldn’t assume that they will be opposed much longer by the incompetence of a Dem leader like Hillary “What happened?” Clinton.
    The GOP and President Trump badly need to get their act together, starting yesterday.

    Otherwise: Kamala Harris in 2010 for 8 years?

    • Replies: @englishmike
  17. Hibernian says:

    “Hate to break it to you, but few white people refer to themselves as ‘the West’”

    You don’t need the terminology to have a good idea of what the terminology stands for.

  18. maybe the red team needed a better candidate? one without baggage? how hard is that for 1 of the 2 major parties in the country?

    even derb doesn’t understand the lesson. don’t nominate pedophile candidates for election. even one issue states like alabama can surprise you when you do.

  19. Discard says:

    “…White nationalists and wealthy Whites also vote as a cohesive block”.

    Yeah, Bill Gates and his crowd supported Trump.

  20. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    It may surprise you (and “Corvinus”) to know that I am sympathetic to much of what Mr. Derbyshire has to say, so far as it goes. My problem with his writing is that it is shallow, predictable, and blinkered.

    Unlike some of the others published here, Mr. Derbyshire isn’t insightful or challenging — he tells people what they want to hear, over and again. His job is to show up every few days, do his whack-a-black thing including a reminder of his “Talk” that got him “fired,” and then decline to engage commenters when called out for things like endorsing Uncle Sam’s Empire that has prompted so much of the immigration that he decries.

    Just the other day, Mr. Derbyshire listed (again) his proposed criteria for immigration that include risking one’s life in the service of “U. S. Interests.” I asked whether this would include the people who sodomized Colonel Gaddafi to death — no response. He tells readers that he is proud that his son has been in the employ of “our” government’s imperial armed forces. Now we see in this latest piece what appears to be an endorsement of Senator Tom Cotton, the heir apparent to Senator John McCain who thinks we need an Iron Curtain for the Internet.

  21. Anonymous [AKA "Valek"] says:

    He’s spot on.

  22. David says:

    May I suggest the word cucquetterie for the opposite of demographic conservatism?

  23. Corvinus says:
    @Dr. Doom

    “Behold Corvinus the jew.”

    No, I am German, Dutch, and Polish. But I see what you are doing here. Calling me a Jew makes you feel better about yourself. You are no different than an SJW who calls people “racist” or “homophobic” without any evidence.

    • Replies: @Alden
  24. MBlanc46 says:

    I’m very glad that Mr Derbyshire can find a silver lining in this cloud. I do hope that his prediction turns out to be correct.

  25. KenH says:

    Alabama blacks were voting against Trump more than they were voting for Doug Jones even though Trump made several overt race based appeals to them during the campaign and a couple of times shortly after assuming office. The mac daddies of black America have told their flocks that Trump is no good for black folk and furthermore he be dissing the black community by his attacks on brother Kaepernick and by his salty opposition to the kneeling Negros in the NFL.

    Blacks like to congratulate themselves about how powerful their vote is but the real story, as always, is the fractured white vote and uppity Republican cucks who refuse to vote for a candidate that doesn’t meet their standards and essentially threw the election by either staying home or writing in a candidate. There’s also reports of voting irregularities in black precincts, so if true then Alabama blacks must be emulating their black brethren in Chicago and voting 3-4 times.

  26. John,

    They’re not ethnomasochist. The legitimacy of their claim to rule – and make no mistake, they do claim to rule – relies on their deracination.

  27. But can’t National Conservatism do better?

    No. People like Trump and Moore are successful because they haven’t studied and thought through the issues. If they had, they would fall into the inadvertent trap of saying something that would make them disliked, unpersoned, and/or unelectable.

  28. Alden says:

    Millions of Jews are of German, Dutch and Polish descent.

  29. @englishmike

    Kamala Harris in 2010 for 8 years?

    That was dumb! Of course, I meant 2020.

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