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[Excerpted from the latest Radio Derb, now available exclusively through]

Earlier, by Steve Sailer: Nope, No Riot in Chicago Last Night Over Mexican Kid Shot by a Cop

Here’s a phrase due for an airing: “asymmetry of indulgence.”

That phrase was coined by conservative British journalist Ferdinand Mount. He was writing about how Leftist politicians get a pass, an indulgence, when they speak in the globalist-universalist diction of Karl Marx and Mao Tse-tung; but when a conservative dares to murmur that perhaps rampant multiculturalism is not a great idea, he is denounced as Literally Hitler.

Plainly we have an asymmetry of indulgence in regard to police shooting of civilians. The asymmetry was in exceptionally plain sight this week, after the shooting of Daunte Wright in a Minneapolis suburb.

The tiny minority of us whose memories stretch all the way back to early January could not help contrasting this shooting and its consequences with the death of Ashli Babbitt:

  • Possibly armed black male with an arrest warrant already extant is accidentally shot dead by white female cop. Nationwide outrage. Cop is fired and charged with manslaughter. City manager who said the cop was entitled to due process is also fired. Mass rioting and looting.
  • Obviously unarmed white female is deliberately shot dead by black male cop without challenge or warning. [Crickets.]

As Steve Sailer noted, the “Who, whom?” principle doesn’t get any more in-your-face than that.

What happened to Ms. Babbitt was a shameful travesty of law enforcement, and the silence on it enforced by the Regime and its media lackeys is outrageous. It tells us all too plainly where we are.

We have, as the late Larry Auster told us, descended into an ersatz religion, with black people as the sacred objects. The emblematic image of our time: Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, a white man, kneeling in reverent supplication before the gilded casket of black street thug George Floyd.

White people are bad; black people are good. You didn’t know that? The rising generations know it: it’s taught to them in kindergarten. [Failure Factory, by Christopher Rufo, City Journal, February 23, 2021] In the world of the mid-21st century, if the U.S.A. is still around—which I increasingly doubt—most Americans will stand on it as the foundation of their social outlook.

Another, and perhaps more surprising, example of the “asymmetry of indulgence” has been in the news, belatedly. This one took place in the early hours of March 29th in Little Village, a heavily Mexican neighborhood of Chicago. A white cop shot a 13-year-old Mexican boy, Adam Toledo.

The cop was one of two responding to gunfire picked up by that ShotSpotter technology that I think all big-city forces use now. Eight shots had been fired, and the two cops headed for that location.

The teenager was plainly a delinquent. He’d just returned home the night before after going missing for several days. He was also one of two on his side of the shooting drama. The other was an adult male, 21 years old.

Well, the two cops saw the two shooters and went after them. One of the cops seems to have been faster than the other: He caught the 21-year-old, handed him off to his partner, then took off after the 13-year-old, Adam Toledo [What to Know About the Police Shooting of Adam Toledo, by Neil Vigdor , New York Times, April 16, 2021]

The kid dropped his gun behind a fence and raised his hands; the cop shot him. The dropping and the hand-raising all happened in less than a second, in poor light. Probably the cop just didn’t see the kid drop the gun.

This all happened, as I said, in the wee hours March 29th. The video footage was released to the public only on April 15, Thursday, around 2:30. So then, says this report in the Chicago Sun-Times, “Protestors took to the streets …”


Mass looting? Police stations set alight? Out-of-control mobs of angry Mexicans dancing on top of police cars?

Actually, no. Around fifty protestors marched through the city to a park, shouting slogans. One protestor, name of Jose Herrera, claiming to be a cousin of Adam Toledo, drove around blasting Banda music (whatever that is) and waving a Mexican flag. He later claimed that a cop snatched his flag away and broke the shaft. Oh, dear [Protesters decry fatal police shooting of Adam Toledo following video release, by Tom Schuba, Manny Ramos, and Sam Kelly, Chicago Sun-Times, April 15, 2021]

By comparison with the Minneapolis ructions, it all sounds a bit lame. Asymmetrical, in fact.

What came to my mind at this point was David Cole.

If you don’t know the name, David Cole is a Dissident Right columnist over at Taki’s Magazine, and a very good one. He is a Jewish white guy living in Los Angeles.

Cole attended majority-black Los Angeles public schools in the late 1970s and early 1980s, including Alexander Hamilton High School, which at that time, he tells us, was 85 percent black. What was a nice Jewish boy doing in an 85-percent-black high school? He explains that in his March 30th column The War Against Instinct, which I’ll leave you to read for yourself.

Main point: That 85 percent black school is today only 26 percent black. Hispanics are 52 percent.

That’s a running theme of Cole’s: the replacement of blacks by Hispanics. He’s not crazy about so many foreign Hispanics settling in his state, but he sees their replacing the blacks as an improvement:

Is there crime in Hispanic underclass neighborhoods? Absolutely. Southern California will never be Reykjavik (it never was). However, Hispanic crime lacks the predatory antiwhite hate-driven hostility of black crime. The best deal? No. But a better deal than 1980s black L.A., and I say that from experience. Plus, there’s the issue of offsets. To an extent, Mexican underclass criminality is offset by the value of Mexican labor. There was no such offset in black L.A. You got just the crime, but not the dishwashers and drywallers.

Spicy White and Urban Blight, March 16, 2021


I think Cole overstates his case. A lot of Los Angeles blacks in 1985 must have been doing some kind of useful work. I don’t know about L.A. or drywallers, but dishwashers? I was a dishwasher in New York City, 1973-4, and worked alongside many black guys.

The demographic truth Cole’s stating is there in the statistics, though. “The black population in East and West Oakland and South Central Los Angeles—places where they held the majority for decades—has greatly decreased,” says Wikipedia.

Where did they go? To Georgia, says Cole. “Blacks account for nearly half of the Georgia electorate’s growth since 2000.” Wikipedia just says “to the South,” which I guess encompasses Georgia. They also say, however, that “the black middle class has relocated to nearby suburbs.”

If you were to ask Steve Sailer, who’s done some deep diving in this pond, he would likely tell you that unscrupulous property developers, in cahoots with local politicians, have moved blacks out of cities like St. Louis and Milwaukee to Section Eight housing in small towns like Ferguson, Missouri and Kenosha, Wisconsin. Presumably that’s happened with L.A., too.

And a part of the answer seems to be—surprise!—Minnesota. In the 20 years from 1990 to 2010, the black population of the state went from 2.2 percent to 5.2 percent, from one in 45 to almost one in twenty. For the city of Minneapolis across the same 20 years, the percentage black went from 13 percent to almost 19 percent.

Some of that was refugee settlement from Somalia and Liberia, but not as much of it as you’d think. Wikipedia again:

Minnesota’s black population nearly tripled in less than two decades, a large fraction hailing from cities such as Chicago and Gary, Indiana. Black migrants were drawn to Minneapolis … by its abundance of jobs, good schools, and relatively safe neighborhoods. [Emphasis added].

Minneapolis – Demographics – Wikipedia, April 16, 2021

Yes, I’m smiling.

Final word from Steve Sailer

Sure, if a 13-year-old black kid had been shot there would have been riots and if a 13-year-old white kid had been shot there would not only have been no riots but the story might not even have made the national news.

A 13-year-old Mexican kid, however, falls into the beige zone from which it was worth raising the question to find out what the answer was.

The answer, like I said, is asymmetry…of expectations—and outcomes

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him.) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. He has had two books published by com: FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle) and FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT II: ESSAYS 2013.

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  2. unit472 says:

    There is also the issue of ‘guns’ when a white is the shooter. The media never shows much interest is how negro gunmen, usually with long rap sheets, happen to be armed with their handguns. Old White Joe Biden doesn’t mumble about the need for stricter gun laws when there is a hail of bullets outside a black nightclub, memorial service or on ghetto streets. The assumption is negroes just have guns and nothing can be done to keep them out of their two toned hands.

    However when a white is the shooter the call goes out for more ‘gun control’ even if the shooter, unlike Hunter Biden, bought his gun legally and passed a background check. I will be curious to see how the latest eruption of workplace violence plays out. Here we have an alleged 19 year old gunman whose own mother had police put her son under psychiatric evaluation in March of last year. His newly purchased shotgun was confiscated by police and even the FBI dropped by to investigate. I learned the FBI even has a acronym for whites with guns and, no doubt with great disappointment, the then 18 year old boy was cleared of having racially motivated violent reading material in his possession. Somehow though he came to be in possession of what appears to be an AR type rifle two days ago. Let’s see how Biden’s handlers play this one.

    • Replies: @Dani
  3. Phibbs says:

    I disagree with Derbyshire in that he claims Jews are whites. Jews originate in the Middle East, So if Jews are white then so are Libyans, Egyptians, Moroccans, Algerians, etc. Moreover, most Jews hate us Christian Caucasians and want us to go away. That is why Jews are at the vanguard of multicultural and multi-racial policies. It’s why the Jews of Israel so shamelessly use the U.S. to advance its policies — at the expense of Gentile America. It’s why Jews are six times underrepresented in the American military. It’s why 75% of Communists in Bolshevist Russia were Jews; they were all too happy to destroy white, Christian Russia in 1917. Jews are busy destroying America as I type.

  4. SMK says: • Website

    Generally, it’s true that Mestizos-Amerindians, citizens and legal and illegal aliens, are not as bad as Negros. But it’s not blacks, citizens and immigrants, legal and illegal, but an invasion of tens of millions of Mestizos and pure Amerindians from Mexico and Central America that has dramatically reduced the white population of the US from almost 90% in the 1960s to slightly over 60% today and that will soon transform the US into a nonwhite-majority country in which no Republican will ever be elected president again and Democrats will rule the House and Senate forever with ever-increasing and increasingly nonwhite-majorities. A massive and irreversible influx of Mestizos and Amerindians, not blacks, has turned California into a left-wing one-party dictatorship.

    Mestizos-Amerindians are not “replacing” blacks in the country as a whole but joining blacks in turning America into a nonwhite-majority dystopia in which European-Americans will be an increasingly dispossessed and persecuted minority.

    • Agree: 3g4me, Annony Mouse
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Wally
  5. KenH says:

    Mass looting? Police stations set alight? Out-of-control mobs of angry Mexicans dancing on top of police cars?

    Ron Unz can feel vindicated with his belief that Mexicans are essentially white Europeans trapped in a brown exterior. Hispanics are not white Europeans but I will concede that they are generally better behaved, have slightly better impulse control and don’t take every event as a personal slight against their race. This is all relative to blacks, of course.

  6. Currahee says:

    Mexicans are not enclosed within the Negro Delusion Bubble and are capable of seeing the blacks for exactly what they are.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  7. El Dato says:
    @Priss Factor

    All BLM riots should be forbidden by authority of the Squad Automatic Weapon (Mister Two Four Nine, or maybe Mademoiselle), an excellent product of Fabrique Nationale de Herstal (a relatively diverse town, btw).

  8. SMK says: • Website

    The myriads of blacks who are shot and killed or beaten or stabbed to death by other blacks are not depicted as sacred victims. Their lives don’t matter, nor do the lives of all the whites, graveyards and graveyards of them, who have been and will be murdered by violent recidivist black criminals, often after being abducted, tortured,, raped and gang-raped – since a focus on heir lives and how they were killed would expose the horrific realities of black male criminality, including black-on-white violence.

    Only blacks who are killed by whites -especially police, even if the cops acted in obvious self-defense, or unintentionally shot and killed an unarmed black criminal (e.g., the female cop in Minneapolis), or might have caused the death of a black criminal (e.g., Derek Chauvin)- are depicted as sacred victims since their deaths conform to and sustain the myth and “narrative” of “systemic racism” and “white supremacy.”

    • Agree: Katrinka, Bernie, 36 ulster
  9. They love a good visual and the one with Floyd next to Chauvin is repeated daily. I have to believe the typical motion-only, non-thinker will have that image seared into their subconscious with “good = dark” and “bad = light”, which represents the inversion we live through today – something completely contradictory to our instincts and logic.

    Plus, they couldn’t have found a better surname than “Chauvin” (chauvinist) to represent the destruction of white patriotism along with law and order.

    Am I right?

  10. I respectfully disagree with Ron regarding mexicans.

    I’m in CA and the mexicans here are very militant and anti-white…..and the young mexicans strive to imitate blacks in every way. The mexicans wear the same gang attire as black thugs. The mexicans listen to black rap music.

    In any case, no matter what Trump said, the mexicans still mostly vote left because they want free shit.

    As mentioned above, mexicans are part of the anti-white coalition that is stealing America away from white people.

    The reason for the race replacement/ethnic cleansing of whites is due to the actions of a tiny group of hostile “fellow whites” that rule over all of Christendom.

    • Agree: AceDeuce, TKK
    • Replies: @TKK
    , @36 ulster
  11. I’m glad you put the blame wear it truly belongs, to wit, the traitorous actions of “fellow whites”. One could go on and elaborate on this but if whites don’t get it yet, they never will.

  12. SafeNow says:

    Irony alert. While most Mexicans do not share the black predilection for impetuous, explosive violence, they suffer from the exact opposite: TOO cavalier, TOO relaxed. Proficient/conscientious/fastidious has been replaced by “getting it basically okay.” Part of this is a matter of DNA, but part of it is a relaxed culture. “Good enough” is contagious across institutions, government, occupations, and daily life. This “gets a pass” because violence to standards is nuanced, indirect, hard to prove, and politically incorrect to prove. When the vaccine rollout yields to an ethos of “good enough,” that is violence, and it kills. Yet, asymmetrically, it gets a pass.

  13. @Phibbs

    I know where you are coming from but i would put Liberals from Oregon, Brooklyn etc in the same box, whites by appearance only, how many Upper class kids from Connecticut or New Jersey are in the military? not that many, they go and slum it out in New York or the west coast.

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  14. anon[245] • Disclaimer says:

    Good tidings keep on coming:

    “Temitope Oriola, an expert in armed insurgency in sub-Saharan Africa, has issued a chilling warning that the US may soon witness its own armed insurgency if significant police and criminal justice reform is not enacted quickly.
    Oriola is the joint Editor-in-Chief of the African Security journal and associate professor at the University of Alberta. Based on his years of experience studying armed uprisings across the globe, he now believes that the US is potentially on the brink of disaster.

    In a recent article, he cites recent examples including the shooting death of Breonna Taylor, the asphyxiation death of George Floyd and the shooting death of Daunte Wright during a traffic stop as examples of deteriorating sociopolitical conditions for African Americans.”

    Call the Afriakners and move to Siberia.Neil Farrage will join soon .

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  15. AceDeuce says:

    Mexicans are better than blacks-slightly. But, so what?

    Venereal warts are “better” than AIDS, but I don’t want either disease.

    • Agree: WSG
    • LOL: Annony Mouse
  16. unwoke says:

    “That’s a running theme of Cole’s: the replacement of blacks by Hispanics. He’s not crazy about so many foreign Hispanics settling in his state, but he sees their replacing the blacks as an improvement”

    Is it really? or is it a running bone of contention that could be useful in other ways? A Harvard-Harris poll a couple of years ago revealed that 85% of Blacks wanted a reduction in immigration into the U.S., greater than the 79% of Whites of similar opinion in the poll. Blacks are probably even more opposed to mass immigration than Whites, not so surprising since many immigrants compete directly with Blacks for low-end jobs. Despite some of the obvious friction with Blacks, they could be natural allies for Whites who believe in “the VDare Foundation’s mission of the unsustainability of current US immigration policy”. So who would you rather have on your side, American Blacks (who often don’t get along so well with immigrant Blacks); or legal & illegal immigrants? The Great Replacement may not just concern Whites.

  17. KenH says:

    What happened to Ms. Babbitt was a shameful travesty of law enforcement, and the silence on it enforced by the Regime and its media lackeys is outrageous. It tells us all too plainly where we are.

    This article is informative what the location isn’t the only thing that makes DOJ’s judgement different. It’s also the race and political oriention of Babbitt and the cop.

    Where did they go? To Georgia, says Cole. “Blacks account for nearly half of the Georgia electorate’s growth since 2000.” Wikipedia just says “to the South,”

    Time magazine did a story about this in 1995 and how Atlanta and other states in the deep south were top destinations for Southern California blacks presumably fleeing “racism” and the mestizo invasion that was displacing blacks. I recall the tone of the article was that California didn’t deserve its blacks when in fact their presence and shocking levels of violent crime and the L.A. riots kick started the exodus of middle class whites to other states.

    Massive numbers of Latinos have not made America better but it has given blacky some comeuppance since they’ve been run out of cities and neighborhoods by them much like blacks did to whites starting in the mid 1960’s.

  18. Latinos are basically Whites without a welfare state. By White I mean Americans of European descent. Real Europeans are European and the “White” identity label does not stick to them because it is not accurate.

    The reason why Whites don’t work for Mexican wages is because they fake back pain and claim social security disability or live off scholarships and stipends as economically useless college students.

    Latinos are just honest Whites with less manners. To draw further parallels. Mexicans = White Americans. Salvadorans, Guatemalans, Hondurans = American blacks. It isn’t necessarily racial but a level of culture. Mexico is a decent second world country, while the rest of Central America is a terrible shithole.

    The border should be closed but not because of replacement theory or the boomer fairy tale of a permanent Democratic party majority being voted in by the browns.

    A quick solution is to end the welfare state, Latino and White labor would then have to compete and there would be no need for an imported slave class, because the locals could be used for slave labor.

  19. Ron Unz says:

    As I’d mentioned on a similar Steve Sailer thread, over the decades there have been a certain number of Latinos accidentally or unjustifiably killed by police officers, but I’m not sure there’s ever been a violent protest or riot as a consequence, or at least not a single example comes to mind.

    So since it’s almost never happened in the past, I wasn’t surprised at the Chicago developments, though I guess there was always a chance that black criminals or white antifa might have used it as an excuse for a new round of looting or burning.

    And from what the newspapers said, the case was potentially volatile. Nobody could think of the last time a questionable police killing had involved a thirteen-year-old, and the video clearly showed him unarmed and raising his hands just before he was shot dead. Obviously, the officer can’t really be blamed either, given that it all happened in a second or two at 2:30am, but the visual record does look bad.

    As I also mentioned, a similar but even more extreme case had happened a few years ago in Northern California. A thirteen-year-old Latino boy with no criminal associations was carrying an Airsoft pellet-gun on the street one afternoon when he was killed by a couple of officers in a patrol car. The required orange tip had broken off, so they believed he was holding an actual assault rifle, and they shot him eight times after they called out to him and he turned towards them. Obviously, it was a very unfortunate accident and the officer was eventually cleared and returned to duty, but the public protests by the local Latinos were also hardly unreasonable. Wikipedia is often unreliable, but in this case, the details closely match my own recollection:

    Anyway, it’s very nice to see that after twenty or thirty years, right-wingers are finally starting to get a little more sensible on some of these issues. I think this also relates to the article I’d published last year that caused quite a stir at the time:

  20. Jews and urban libs saw the dangers of black crime and clamped down on it hard beginning with Clinton. NYers voted for Republican Giuliani twice because black crime got so bad.

    To favor SWPL over black power, Jews and libs favored globo-homo over black issues. Also, Jews and urban libs favored immigrants over blacks.

    That was one reason for depressed black enthusiasm for Hillary. Also, if blacks were energized in 2008 and 2012, it was only because Obama the black guy. Had a white guy ran on Obama’s agenda, blacks would have been Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

    Lack of black enthusiasm for Hillary cost Dems the presidential race in 2016, esp against Trump. Had Jeb Bush won, Jews would have been okay. But Jews saw Trump as new hitler.

    So, in 2020, Jews were gonna promote Negrolatry to the max to make blacks vote for Biden and to have blacks collude in election fraud on an unprecedented scale.
    It was about IS IT GOOD FOR JEWS?

    Still, it begs the question, why were so many whites who benefitted so much from mass incarceration of blacks and law-and-order policies so eager to join BLM and the like?

    The increased law-and-order made these younger affluent hipster whites less aware of the dangers of black crime. Paradoxically, a society made safer by clamping down on black crime made whites more complacent of the dangers of crime.

    Also, the increasing PC-ization of media and academia raised generations of ‘woke’ morons.

    Furthermore, Jews and libs did a funny thing. To cover up their anti-black policies, they elevated Noble Negro symbolism. It’s like Bill Clinton locked up blacks but acted so pro-black. And even as blacks were driven out of cities, MLK was made even bigger than ever and movies like 12 YRS A NEGRO were made.
    So, the younger generation with no memory of black urban mayhem came to idealize blacks as noble victims.

    Finally, many whites know black thuggery mainly through pop culture of rap and the like, and they think it’s cool and badass than dangerous. And jungle fever and cuckery made whites emotionally servile to blacks.

    • Replies: @cohen
  21. @unwoke

    So who would you rather have on your side, American Blacks (who often don’t get along so well with immigrant Blacks); or legal & illegal immigrants?

    Regardless of what I’d rather, in prison it’s the Mexicans who side with Whites against Blacks when there’s an all-out brawl. (During relatively peaceful times, all three groups keep their distance from each other.)

    The above is what happens in Southern California county jails; I know this first-hand from my (white) stepson, who spent several months there. I can’t speak for other prison systems, but I’d assume it’s similar, at least in places where Blacks, Whites and Mexicans are all present in significant numbers.

  22. TKK says:
    @Robert Dolan

    In most of Miami, if you don’t speak Spanish in restaurants or other retail spaces, the insouciant staff will give you a look of disgust and either botch your order or tell you defiantly that they don’t speak English.

    Not sure if most people know this, but an immeasurable number of illegal immigrants who live in Florida never have to speak English or assimilate in any manner. Miami and some parts of Tampa are basically a Spanish speaking South American country with lots of freebies plus well paying cash jobs. Perhaps LA is the same but I have only visited there twice.

    Even more infuriating is positions for attorneys in Florida require speaking Spanish as a mandatory job requirement.

    Borders, language, culture. Once these are gone, there is no more country.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
  23. @oliver elkington

    People who serve in the military are serving Israel, the MIC, and the NWO. They are doing as much or more to destroy what is left of the west than the disgusting white liberals are…

    This year has been an eye opener to me. CONservatives really are as stupid and as libtards.

  24. @Anyone with a brain

    Mexico is a decent second world country, while the rest of Central America is a terrible shithole.

    Anyone with a brain, must not include you! Let me ask you honest questions. Have you ever been to any of these countries? or even done serious reading beyond wikipedia? used google street view to look around, or actually seen videos or pictures, or anything about the countries? If not, you are a ignorant. Ignorance is generally ok, but not when you are speaking authoritatively on a subject.

    Mexico has higher crime rate than Guatemala or Nicaragua. Racially, people are quite similar. I live in Guatemala, and we have a nice, middle class life. A house with a yard, A car, three kids, a nana. No, things aren’t perfect, but the US is becoming far more of a “shit hole” than here. I have never been robbed, and I’ve lived here nearly a decade. And no, we haven’t always lived in expensive areas. My wife is from a poor village, and we used to live in a no-go zone. If you are smart and don’t do stupid stuff, you can avoid crime pretty easily.

    Mexicans = White Americans. Salvadorans, Guatemalans, Hondurans = American blacks.

    This is just plain asinine. I work with a number of Guatemalans with German names, and white skin. If you are going to speak on a subject, please try to know SOMETHING about it.

  25. So many posters here wander off topic and bring out their own frustrations and prejudices. The ISSUE is not about blacks or Mexicans/Hispanics. They are being used by the powerful manipulators who control this ruptured republic’s government, media and most other major institutions. Those manipulators are the highest ranking servants of the Bank\$ter Cabal, the Globalist, New World Order Great Awakening pushers.

    Judging from what we have seen of George \$oro\$’ founded and financed Black Lives Matter (BLM) and the street-thug Antifa goons, who are definitely getting financing and directions form somewhere (possibly the Agency) ; have been selected as the shock troops to foment major national unrest and possibly combat between these mercenaries and pissed-off, frustrated people who simply will no longer stand for the constant rioting and uproar.

    What better a formula than for the Kamal’s Foote/Biden administration’ actual shotcallers than race-wars in the streets of major cities and even in places like Kenosha, Wisconsin? If martial law gets declared, then you will know that the race-favoring/race-baiting strategy has succeeded.

    • Thanks: Peripatetic Itch
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  26. Hey Dinesh, you wanna talk about double standards? What about Jews and Palestinians? Dinesh totally supports Zionists uber Palestinians. Indeed, that was the beginning of the the new order of double justice. When the West allowed Jews to get away with crimes against Palestinians, it was only a matter of time before Jews, as the new elites, would push double standards on white goyim.

    Any conzo who supports Jews > Palestinians but bitches about double standards has no credibility. Begin with the injustice that favors Jewish supremacism over Palestinian human rights.

    • Agree: acementhead
  27. @Ron Unz

    Hey Ron, There is a poster here named Robert Dolan. He has a fantasy where you are a python and he is a bunny rabbit. He said so on the the recent thread about Tucker Carlson. I just thought you might like to know : )

  28. Truth says:

    Derb, with all possible respect Old Sport, I suspect you fell off the stupid tree and made contact with every branch before you landed on imbecile lawn.

  29. Biff says:
    @Ron Unz

    the video clearly showed him unarmed and raising his hands just before he was shot dead. Obviously, the officer can’t really be blamed either,

    Next time I shoot an un-armed kid in the chest can you be on my jury?

    • Replies: @TKK
    , @Avery
  30. @unwoke

    ‘So who would you rather have on your side, American Blacks (who often don’t get along so well with immigrant Blacks); or legal & illegal immigrants? The Great Replacement may not just concern Whites.’

    I’ll take legal and illegal immigrants. In fact, if we can ship one black there for every Guatemalan who comes here, we have a deal.

  31. @Phibbs

    Since, according to Israeli geneticist Eran Elhaik, Israeli historian Shlomo Sand, and Jewish Hungarian author Arthur Koestler (and even Gilad Atzmon), Jews of Ashkenazim origin come from the old Khazar Empire and converted to Judaism in 740 AD and then spread of Russia and then Europe upon conquest by (likely) the Mongols…and since the Ashkenazim derive from Japheth (supposedly the white son of Noah; Shem was brown and Ham was black), the grandfather of Ashkenaz, then I would say Ashkenazi Jews really are white….and also they are gentile! Because whites are gentiles, no?

  32. Anonymous[161] • Disclaimer says:

    Latin American immigration didn’t reduce the white population of the USA. That was primarily the persistently low fertility of American white women, which has been below replacement since the early 1970s.

    If white women had maintained the 3.5 TFR they had in the 1960s, we would have hundreds of millions more white people today, and America would still be over 80% white.

    Low fertility is the liberal sin for which you are all collectively going to Hell for eternity. Low birthrates are an abomination before God and you will all be sodomized in the fires of Hell. Continuing to blame immigrants will only get you sent to a deeper layer of hell where you will be sodomized by an even bigger penis. God severely, severely hates dishonesty and ignobility.

  33. USA1943 says:

    Most of the Anti-White Hatred is coming from other Whites.
    I have yet to meet a Black Person who complains how racist Dr. Seuss and Dumbo the Elephant are, in fact many Blacks have told me The cops are actually doing the Black Neighborhoods a favor when they kill the career criminals that BLM protests for, but they also say BLM use the criminal element to intimidate law abiding Blacks and politicians don’t do anything about it.

  34. Wally says:

    The odd sort of pleasure in all of this is that there we be no one to pay their bills when Euro-whites become an ever decreasing minority.

    Fiscal Impact of Whites, Blacks and Hispanics / the Makers vs. the Takers:

    Federal Budget Contribution, 2014:
    Whites generate a +\$2,795 per capita surplus
    Hispanics generate a -\$7,700 per capita deficit
    Blacks generate: -\$10,016 per capita deficit

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  35. Dumbo says:

    I think it’s not just that.

    Latin Americans in general, especially poor brown Latin Americans, are used to a fair amount of arbitrary killings of innocent (or sort-of-innocent) people by the police. It happens all the time in Mexico. What are you gonna do about it? Wave a flag? Protesting is useless, so they might as well get on with their lives.

    Second, Latins in general are politically apathetic. They just don’t care much about politics one way or another, as long as they get their welfare ore their assistance. Latino protests are a sort of an oxymoron. Even whites protest more (but for other things, such as “climate change”, “gay rights” and stuff like that)

    Finally, they, like whites, usually assume that anyone who was shot by the police (save some exceptions) more or less had it coming. Now, that’s not always true, and I don’t like much the police, especially not the trigger-happy “treat everybody as a dangerous criminal” American police. But, if you are involved with crimes or gangs, it’s more likely that you’ll end up shot.

    I disagree with Unz about Latinos, and by that I really mean mestizos with a large amount of Amerindian (and in many cases also African) blood. For all their qualities and defects, they are not the same ethnicity and culture of the United States.

    Yeah, they tend to commit less crime than blacks. Great. Here’s a news brief: EVERYBODY commits less crimes than Blacks, Captain Obvious.

    So what? Crime in Indonesia is low. Should we bring a million Indonesians to the U.S.?

    Ron Unz is wrong. I’m sort of sympathetic to Latinos. But bringing millions of Mexicans and expecting the U.S. not to become more like Mexico, is stupid.

    I lived in California. It must be nice for rich Jews and rich whites with houses in Bel Air. For low middle-class white families, it’s certainly not a model to export. And many are leaving.

  36. gotmituns says:

    A couple of thing about the police. They’re the same as anyone else in this country. They live exactly the same as other people. The standards for the police have been lowered for police officer for 40+ years now like the standards for everything else. For example, anyone who’s got an ounse of sense knows that a woman shouldn’t be allowed to be on patrol by herself, that they can’t handle a physical confrontation. Same with many males. They live soft lives and can’t handle situations beyond giving a compliant citizen a ticket. So here we are, after all these years of lowering all standards for everything and we can’t even figure out that you get so many of these dumb situations just because these people are incompetent. Oh yeah, the blacks are not able to function in this society either which is sort’a bad for the overall situation as well, but it was for the blacks that all the standards were originally lowered to begin with – what a mess.

    • Thanks: Peripatetic Itch
  37. VICB3 says:

    I don’t know about L.A. or drywallers…

    FYI, the drywall trade in Southern California used to be dominated by Blacks. Latinos forced them out.

    “The black population in East and West Oakland and South Central Los Angeles—places where they held the majority for decades—has greatly decreased,” says Wikipedia.

    Where did they go?

    Answer: The High Desert areas/towns of Palmdale, Lancaster and Victorville. It’s now Section 8 and Gang dominated.

    Hope this helps!

    Just a thought.


    • Replies: @James Scott
  38. Sean says:
    @Ron Unz

    Obviously, the officer can’t really be blamed either, given that it all happened in a second or two at 2:30am, but the visual record does look bad.

    Adam was told “Show me your hands”, then “Drop it”. The cop began to repeat the order to drop the non existent gun as he shot Adam. If the cop truly thought Adam was probably holding a gun, why order him to move his hands? I think Stilman had taken the decision to be on the safe side and just kill Adam. That decision had been taken before Stilman issued the command to Adan to show his hands, and the subsequent two commands to drop a weapon by the cop were only made to cover himself.

    [T]hey really believed he was probably holding an actual assault rifle, and they shot him eight times after they called out to him and he turned towards them

    If they really thought he was probably holding such a powerful weapon (which they would not have stood a chance against) they would not have called out to him I suspect. They did not call out to him by accident.

    I am afraid that what we have in both cases is cops deciding it is best to err on the safe side and killing people without actually trying to find out if it is necessary. Police men and women are human, they are robots constructed by their DNA which in a great many cases pulls the strings to override the willingness to engage in derring-do and self sacrifice according to some oath.

    • Replies: @Marckus
    , @utu
  39. Jptasse says:
    @Anyone with a brain

    “To draw further parallels. Mexicans = White Americans. Salvadorans, Guatemalans, Hondurans = American blacks.”

    What kind of rubbish is this? Costa Rica has much lower crime rates than the narco state of mexico, even Guatemala is safer than mexico today (Having visited all those countries). You woud never hear about 30 young students dissapearing in Guatemala or Costa rica.

    I always wondered why mexicans (You must be one) have this hate for the rest of latin america, being yourself about 50 millions, mostly illegals in USA, your country would be as poor as Honduras if it was not for all those millions in Usa supporting their families back in mexico,

    Here I Canada, every summer the farmers must bring temporary workers from Mexico and Guatemala (Only those 2 countries), and having worked there I can tell you one thing, farmers prefer people from Guatemala because they are a bit humbler than the mexicans,

  40. @TKK

    They call that “reconquista”.

    • Replies: @Old and Grumpy
  41. TGGP says: • Website

    The two shootings you bring up at the top are in fact different and merit different treatment. The man who was shot was supposed to be tased, so the cop screwed up and it cannot be defended as a “good shooting”. Even if he had a warrant out, any sensible department would conduct an investigation to determine what should be done about that mistake. The second case was during a riot, in which the normal procedures of law enforcement for dealing with small numbers of offenders on a scene are insufficient. None of this is to say that people were right to be angry at “due process” (even if cops frequently do get away with indisputably “bad” shootings, like that black guy with a legal handgun shot in his car a few years ago) or that they should have been eager to throw away due process in the second case.

  42. Realist says:

    As long as Whites allow the buggery…it will continue.

  43. @Currahee

    What are they, exactly? All of them, without variation? Who made them like that, whatever it is? God? Four hundred years of slavery, Jim Crow, KKK, lynchings and mass incarceration and impoverishment? Who made you like you are?

    • LOL: GeneralRipper
  44. The negros are the AMERICAN CANCER ! Remember how peaceful america was under jimcrow laws.Im scared for my kids and family.

  45. @Anonymous

    Low birthrates avoid a population crash, amidst ecological ruin. They also, obviously, reflect female preferences. How do you know what ‘God’ likes, or are you He?

  46. It may be as simple as this:


    Mary Phagan’s corpse

    Somebody wants us DEAD…

  47. BorisMay says:

    The thing I love about white Americans is how blinkered they are.
    There is actually no such things as blacks per se, yet whites by and large think there is here on Unz.
    What you call blacks fall in to several categories: pure blood blacks mostly from west Africa with high IQs that often become doctors, dentists and similar middle class professions: West Indian blacks that generally become working class operatives and often include the next category: mulattos that are half black and half white/half Hispanic/half Asian (the mix type is endless) that are historically the most dangerous ranging from bone idle through to violently insane: Ethiopian blacks from north east Africa that are usually Muslim and have high morals: South African (often Zulus) usually working in medicine in the west are highly disciplined and of strong moral character: various East African blacks (Swahili speakers) often Muslim who make good retailers, wholesalers and seamen.
    Most of what white US citizens call ‘blacks’ are actually mulattos, half black and almost always half white. In the rest of the world mulattos that are half black and half Spanish, or half Italian or half Greek are considered the most untrustworthy.
    In the United Kingdom (a misnomer if there ever was one) African blacks consciously different themselves from blacks born in the West Indies, the US or the UK. By and large African blacks are more intelligent, more clever and have higher moral standards.
    You US whites should be more discerning about your black nationals. With the Jews being openly hostile to you (and blacks) you need all the allies you can muster.
    Every Muslim in the US is actually a white ally because Islam is also under attack by the Jews, thus you share a mutual enemy. If you were to openly support the Palestinians while they are being genocided by the Israeli Jews you’d garner total support from many Muslims. If you stopped persecuting the Iranians and supported the Syrians then you might find many Ismaili Muslims (you might call them Shia) would support you. This would bring support from Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, northern Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, most Chinese Muslims and even Sufis in Turkey.
    Somehow you’d have to distance yourself from your government, but you could start with the many Ismailis that reside in the US.
    And don’t forget your indigenous people the American Indians…maybe you need to start honouring this treaties your white ancestors signed with them, before they were broken.
    After all, many of the American Indians that you mistakenly misname Mexitos are relatives to those your ancestors disenfranchised.
    It was interesting how your border agencies boasted last year that staff could all speak Spanish, when none of the American Indians emigrating from Central America can speak it! There is a great disconnect between white Americans and the other people of the Americas based upon arrogance, ignorance and blind stupidity. Isn’t it about time you stopped being so arrogantly ignorant?

  48. @Priss Factor

    I’m increasingly in favor of this, at least as regards Tools of the State especially in the Justice System.

    Every Judge and DA pushing their outrageous bullshit should have their lives, and that of their families, made a living hell.

    • Replies: @DaveE
  49. TKK says:

    Have you ever been in a violent mob?

    I had a group of 11 people, some black, some obese females, clearly liquored up- show up at almost full dark screaming because I evicted one of the obese females from a house because she did not pay rent.

    It is very frightening. You can’t see what is happening , people are shouting, shapes run up on you and you can’t see their faces or discern intent. But if *anyone* runs up on you in the dark, I am going to assume harm.

    I can’t stand cops. I avoid them. I feel no pity for them. They disgust me.

    However, as a human being, know that if you are ever in a situation where it is dark and violence lurks about- you make decisions you might regret later. Staring at a video with a cup of coffee and a snack in your clean living is mighty different than tangling with feral jerks at full dark with guns.

    Watch these cops and tell me that don’t deserve to be beaten, thrashed and stomped…watch what they do in full daylight. Ironic that an immigrant by stander (accent) tries to help:

    • Thanks: Peripatetic Itch
    • Replies: @Marckus
  50. @KenH

    Mexicans are essentially white Europeans trapped in a brown exterior.

    Yet that brown exterior somehow turns White Europeans into violent murderous thugs . Look at the worlds most violent countries.

    A report from the think tank Igarape Institute analyzed the number of homicides in nations across the world to determine the most violent countries. In this study, it was found that 17 of the world’s 20 most violent countries were in Latin America. Mexico, Brazil, Colombia, and Venezuela topped the list, together accounting for one-quarter of all of the murders in the world.

  51. lysias says:

    That photo of the cop that shot Ashli Babbitt that Derbyshire links to is mighty clear. Should be very easy to identify the guy. I would bet that most people who work on the Capitol are well aware of who he is.

  52. @anon

    its own armed insurgency if significant police and criminal justice reform is not enacted quickly

    Is something devoutly to be wished.

    A bunch of armed blacks fighting the State, What’s the downside?

  53. Marckus says:

    Blacks are probably even more opposed to mass immigration than Whites,

    And so they are ! One of the reasons is that immigrants “compete” ( I dont know if that is the right word) for low end jobs. However if you hire a black USA man to do any job you are asking for problems. They always have a bone of contention to pick, that is:
    1. , if they show up at the time agreed
    2. and complete the work within the timetable
    3. and complete the job per specs.
    4. and you dont end up in a screaming match with them

    That is a tall order rarely realized. Even other blacks know this and wont hire their own.

    A Mexican crew will show up and you will realize all three metrics. They are anxious to complete the job and get paid as well as to move on to other work. They are also smart in that they come with a variety of skills and know that referrals and a customer base is important.

    Blacks dont give a shit about any of this hence my questioning the competition aspect. Beyond a certain point no matter how much work there is no one wants to hire a black man so the competition aspect becomes moot.

    The other side of the coin is that blacks know whites have the wherewithal and some strange desire to finance their leisurely lifestyle. A majority Hispanic population is not going to hand over their coin to a black man whose idea of a long hard day is hanging out at the street corner. The day this country becomes mostly Hispanic is the day the black man once again finds himself a “victim”. All freebies will come to a crashing halt. There is not one Latin American country that hands out the perks we do and if we continue on this road of unlimited Hispanic immigration the same will go down here. Work or starve ! It might be the best thing to happen to blacks…….perhaps !

    The old Spanish saying goes “Hasta un burro sabe quien le da pasto!”….even an Ass knows who gives him Grass.

    Blacks for all their bullshit know a Hispanic majority will not toss them a single straw !

    • Replies: @LeRoy
  54. AndrewR says:
    @Priss Factor

    Whites need to stop joining the military, and law enforcement in diverse areas

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  55. Marckus says:

    What you say is absolute rubbish !. On a dark night a man holding a hot dog looks like he is holding a weapon. Do you take the chance ??

    IF you ever find yourself in a dark alley, in the middle of the night, facing men known to be armed is the night you will do the same as these cops. Believe me, when it is you or them, your mind transitions to a whole new state, a different dimension ! Mouths get dry, hands get wet and even if it is cold you can feel the sweat running down your torso. Your asshole gets so tight not even a fart can escape.

    You can easily experience this state by heading down to the Ghetto at 2 am in the morning. Weekends are best.

    What is a 13 year old doing fucking around in a dangerous city, armed and in the early hours of the morning ??

    Your life is your own and you can gamble with it as you wish. Others feel otherwise and are not willing to take that chance !

    • Replies: @Sean
  56. Is it just my imagination, or do those two women look very similar?

  57. @Phibbs

    Ancient Middle Easterners were Aryans. At least their rulers were. Abraham and Sarah were white Aryans. Don’t play the Jew came of letting them stir up this anti white hate, and then crying “we’re not white”. Make them own the ultimate white supremacy of being chosen, the slave trades, and the usury based colonialism.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  58. @Anyone with a brain

    Since I can’t reply to stevennonemaker88 and Jptasse at once I will reply to myself and hope they find my message.


    I base my simple assertion that Mexico is better than Guatemala, not on racial hatred or racial differences. As I said it is not racial but cultural. The fact that you know Guatemalans with German last names changes nothing, and you might be surprised to know there are also Mexicans with German last names. Like I said it is cultural.

    Returning to my point, I base my pro-Mexico assertion on the fact that there are Guatemalans illegally immigrating to Mexico. The same is true for other Honduras and El Salvador. While the reverse is unheard of.


    I said Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador. I didn’t say Costa Rica, because as everyone knows Costa Rica is a pretty decent country that outperforms the region. I never would and have never made the assertion Costa Rica is a shithole.

    The Mexican portion of illegal immigrants in the U.S is actually decreasing

    and the people trying to get in are disproportionately Central American, here is the data

    Keep in mind that the population of Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador is ~35 million, while the population of Mexico is ~126 million, and also look at the “Family Units Encounter” stats from border patrol and note that Central American countries individually surpass Mexico.

    I don’t doubt there are nice places to live in Guatemala, but it is simply not developed as the nice parts of Mexico nor does it have as many nice parts as Mexico even taking into account its size.

    But there are also really shithole parts in Mexico too. In my travels I have learned that countries can vary a lot internally. If I say Mexico is a decent 2nd world country that is better than Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador it does not mean, that 100% of Mexican territory is better than 100% of the territory of those countries. There will be parts that are better or worse, but in general one country will be better than the other.

    Who cares if Canadian farmers prefer Guatemalan slaves to Mexican slaves. They ought to prefer Canadian slaves or robots than importing foreigners. The fact that Guatemalans are more preferred for slave labor does not speak well to their character or dignity. What kind of sad national identity is based on “but we are good slaves.”

    • Replies: @Jptasse
  59. @BorisMay

    You are making arbitrary distinctions, which are of no value. I don’t particularly care what type of black is in the US or UK; nor do I care if they are doctors, lawyers, or postal workers. White people deserve a homogenous homeland, as do other races and types of people. Whites do not need to “ally with Muslims against the Jews”, nor do they need allies in general. The reason we “persecute others” is because of ZOG. All wars in the US are fought for the Anglo-Zionist cause, no matter how small it may be. The bottom line is that the best way forward for whites, would be for all white countries to band together under an umbrella similar to the European Union. Speaking on this topic, I’d like to address one more point. The issue I have with the US, is the meritocratic immigration system. Essentially, smart and capable people (e.g., your black doctor friends) are brough in to displace natural born whites. On the flip side, the US is causing irreparable harm to those other countries; they are losing their top talent. This fosters resentment in other countries, as well as in the US (e.g., educated blacks losing opportunities). The entire system is a failure, and we cannot allow it to go on. Democrats prefer open borders, and Republicans prefer H-1B visa open borders. The Supreme Court is of no use. The only way to truly protect American (white) interests, is via white coalition. H-1B visas for whites. Open borders for whites. Ease of travel to other white countries. Meritocracy only works on equal playing fields.

    • Agree: Marckus
  60. Marckus says:

    You are quite correct. We are blinkered. Tell us where you live and we will send them all there. Better still if you have any unmarried female relatives we can hook them up with some Africans or Moslems or whatever takes your (or their ) fancy.

    If your ladies like BBC we can send you Mandingos. Otherwise how about some nice Asians with their micro peckers ?

    This way we can overcome our arrogance, ignorance and blind stupidity and you can find your inner child and broaden you life experience.

    • Thanks: TheMoon
  61. @Franklin Ryckaert

    Didn’t Spain own Florida? Didn’t they agree to “sell” to the US for some kind of debt transference? Where are the Spaniards then in this reonquista? Shouldn’t they be writing us a check for the buyback?

    We need to figure out how the descendants of the conquistador have manage to remain blameless despite their ancestors being ruthless. I guess they really snookered the mix bloods with the whole mythical Latino-Hispanic race idea.

  62. @Anonymous

    Low birthrates are an abomination before God

    Might be more to do with sperm counts and testosterone levels. Sperm counts of American men have been falling at a rate of one percent a year for fifty years or more. Testosterone levels seem to have been falling at the same rate for twenty or thirty years at least.

    Meanwhile testicular cancer rates are soaring.

    And that’s just the men.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  63. John

    The Humpback Whales were all over the place a few backs week…….Gurney’s Inn and Hither Hills State Park…you should have taken Mrs. Derbyshire.

  64. Agent76 says:

    JAN. 15, 2021 Staggering Injustice

    In a time where much of the American criminal justice system is justifiably under intense pressure to eliminate potential racial bias, there is at least one issue that could be resolved without wholesale changes, expense, or political disagreement.

    July 31, 2020 We train police to be warriors — and then send them out to be social workers The fatal mismatch at the heart of American policing.

    Richard Nixon called police forces “the real front-line soldiers in the war on crime.” Bill Clinton, in his signing ceremony for the 1994 crime bill, called them “the brave men and women who put their lives on the line for us every day.”

    MARCH 18, 2020 Cops Killed Nearly 13 Times More People Than Mass Shooters

    According to The Washington Post, 1,004 individuals were “shot and killed by police in 2019,” or 12 more than the previous year.

    • Replies: @Agent76
  65. The elite want South Africa part II to happen here in the good old USA. It is as simple as that. Mexicans are suppose to do the clean up work. If a kid gets himself shot for not obliging the elite’s intentions, well then it is simply a mere oops to be forgotten.

  66. Agent76 says:

    Jul 21, 2020 Cops Open Fire on Unarmed Dad in Front of 5 Kids

    • Replies: @gotmituns
    , @usNthem
  67. This is a communist takeover. They need chaos and violence to do distract from what they are doing.
    Once it is all in place they will come down on the useful idiots with a ton of bricks as
    they always do. These people once they see what they enabled will become enraged, but by then it is too late.

  68. “The emblematic image of our time: Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, a white man, kneeling in reverent supplication before the gilded casket of black street thug George Floyd.”

    This where the problem lies. Just as you would like to pass off your misus as a nouveau white woman, you are trying to give a pass to a Jew as a white man. When the term “White” comes into play it’s understood to be one of Christian heritage and not someone who has jewfro. You are more of a problem than those on the Jewish side!

  69. Jptasse says:
    @Anyone with a brain

    Have you been to those countries, specially guatemala? I did, along with central america mexico south america and the caribeans…

    The only thing that makes mexico better is the 50 million illegals in the US, which have been for decades a big chunk of mexico GD, and havig lot of oil. I would even say that mexico would be worst than honduras was it not for having the americans next door.

    That was my point…Costa ricans and guatemalans are much nicer and more educated than mexicans without having to milk the USA ( agree honduras salvador have some isssues) but mexico is not what you think it is….such a racist country against their own natives at the airport I noticed all the good jobs were all for european looking mexicans….the rest was all for native amerindians

  70. Stan says:

    Derbyshire, the yellow-belly, is a afraid to name the jew. Jacob Frey, kneeling in reverent supplication before the gilded casket of black street thug George Floyd, is a jew, hoping to persuade gullible goyim to follow his example.

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
  71. cohen says:
    @Priss Factor

    Puzzled by the statement
    “Jews Saw Trump as a new Hitler”
    Ivanka, Jared, Adelson, Dershowitz and many more are supporters of the great Buffoon.

  72. anon[399] • Disclaimer says:

    i dont care about mexicans or latrinos because probably 90% of them got here illegally

    if they dont need to respect the law i dont need to respect them

  73. gotmituns says:

    they do love to carry on…

  74. LeRoy says:

    Black dont give hoot about immigration. In fact blacks feel threatened by the immigrants who are taking away black’s monopoly of minority status. Therefore, a big slice of the pie.

    • Replies: @Marckus
  75. To be a policeman is not really profession to which people with brain are being attracted.
    Most police will be only latest emigrants.
    Policemen doing their jobs are in stress situation every day. Now when they make a mistake they are put in in prison. Now who would want in a right mind to be a policeman.
    All blacks speaking on television speak about police brutality. But I never have seen black on television to point out that people, should not resist arrest. Actually people, and particularly blacks are resisting arrest. If this will continue than quality and intelligence of police will rapidly decrease,
    And the situation will become so unsustainable that law and order will be thing of the past.

    • Replies: @Robert Dolan
    , @anarchyst
  76. Marckus says:

    Biff is a Chinaman who has never been in a street situation or perhaps even a school yard fight. We have several of these wishy washy TV warriors here on UR spouting off on events they have NEVER experienced and God sparing they will NEVER experience.

    As you pointed out everything looks so black and white when you are chilling in front of the TV with a bowl of noodles and a cup of tea. Like a game of tennis, the spectators always know what the players should have done, should not have done, could have done and would have done.

    Sadly, when these bleacher amateurs get on the Tennis square all their expertise go out the window and they get demolished.

    The marshmallows on UR can rock the woke comments but on the street, with blacks present, softness is best left at home…with the noodles ! Its them or you and better a 5 year stretch in an 8 x 4 cement box than a permanent stretch in a 6 x 2 pine box.

    Idiots like Biff generally wake up when they get thumped. He should look at his fellow Asians and take a lesson from what blacks are doing to them.

    • Thanks: GeneralRipper
  77. @AndrewR

    “Whites need to stop joining the military”

    If this notion became a movement it would be devastating for national security. Goodbye special forces, competent piloting in ships and aircraft, strategic and tactical intelligence. The only downside would be the lack of an escape hatch for young whites looking for a way up in an increasingly hostile society and economy. I enlisted in the USCG as young man after dropping out of deadly dull college and it turned out to be a better fit.

    • Agree: Marckus
  78. anon 21 says:

    The media does not talk about Hispanic crime. When a Hispanic tries to breach the White House armed, he’s called a “vet suffering from mental illness”. When a Latino rams his car in times square and a woman is killed he’s called a ptsd vet and that’s the end of that story. You got it wrong, Hispanics are protected by the media and the politicians. One Hispanic burned down a social club and like 50 people died inside that inferno and the media barely talked about it. Had he been a Muslim it would have been called a terrorist attack and we’d still be talking about it! Hispanics are the most protected group. The medias /lib hatred of Trump started when he said that when you allow masses of people to come in unvetted from the southern border, many criminals come in with the good. They called him the biggest racist going for that and tried getting him run out of office for saying the obvious, but because it acknowledges that Latinos can be criminals too, they media /Lib politicians hated him for years over that alone! This incident with the 13 year old is now making headlines b/c the video has just been released. Just wait. And in this incident there was a gun involved in the initial police encounter. Remember that Hispanic who got away with cold blooded murder when he shot a young woman in a park who was out touring the city with her dad? The media as well as the politicians all sided with him ; he just happened to find a gun on the bench where he was sitting ,and the gun just happened to go off! That was a hate crime 1st degree murder if ever there was! You’re part of a false narrative that Mexicans and other Latinos are part of some persecuted group when they are actually the most coddled and protected. Everyone is learning Spanish and pundits, and politicians pronounce Spanish names with Spanish accents unlike any other non English names! Every other non English speaking group was told “this is America, speak English” , now its the reverse; we need to speak Spanish too!

  79. @Majority of One

    They want to replace the police force with private security firms.

    They also will replace representative democracy with rule by Corporations which is the front of Technocracy by bankers. This is what we have now but the dog and pony show of elected politicians will be thrown out and the mask will be off.

  80. It’s been years since my mother was left bleeding to death on a sidewalk after being stabbed by a Black woman over twenty times while going to the local corner store for milk and bread. Her assailant was never found and no one burned, looted or murdered in her honor. She never even received a mention in the local newspapers. I spent most all my youth growing up among blacks and Hispanics, I take Hispanics any day over blacks, not just for what they did to my mother, but what they did to me, my brothers and sisters for years. Poor fatherless white kids growing up in Compton, Watts, Wilmington and Long Beach black areas paid a price for no other reason than being white. This black on white problem has been going on for sixty years or more, most whites just never had to experience it while living in majority white areas.
    If I had young kids today, I would have them memorize John Derbyshire ‘The Talk’. Academia will only teach them to hate themselves.

    • Replies: @Marty
  81. Sean says:

    Your life is your own and you can gamble with it as you wish.

    The pay and status of the police relative to the academic achievement required of entrants is commensurate with officers taking far greater risks than they actually do take, judging by the fact that being a cop is not dangerous compared to logging, fishing or construction industries ECT ECT.

    Others feel otherwise and are not willing to take that chance !

    But they still want the pubic regard, pay, benefits and early retirement with pension as if they are behaving like heroes. That is more to do with mass entertainment and politics that the selflessness with with most of them discharge their duties. For those who knowingly choose it: deal with it.

  82. @Zarathustra

    In every instance of supposed “police brutality,” in every single instance without exception, the dumb black is resisting, fighting, trying to get away, trying to take the cop’s gun.

    The Jmedia has taught blacks that they are exceptions to the law, so they feel offended when they get caught. They think that looting and stealing is just part of reparations.

    Blacks were better off under the white rule of law, and now blacks are lost under small hat rule that allows them to run wild.

    Blacks used to work in meat packing, slaughterhouses, construction, landscaping, retail, trucking, etc.,but now all of the unskilled work goes to illegals and other hispanics.

    By every standard you can measure, blacks were far better off before the nose interfered with “civil rights” legislation. Blacks used to have a much lower rate of illegitimacy, a strong business community, a much higher percentage of two parent families, lower crime, less drug use, and strong churches. The small hats pushed legislation that actually destroyed the black community
    (as well as the white community)

    The Pollards are champions at nation wrecking….but they have zero experience in running a successful society. They invented cultural pluralism and pretend that this stupid theory is a brilliant blueprint, when in fact it’s the socially engineered ethnic cleansing of white people.

    • Agree: GeneralRipper, anarchyst
    • Thanks: Zarathustra
  83. augusto says:

    Well, for sure whites have exerted violence in many many forms including institutional ones — ofr
    abut three centuries. (or Did it take Putin himself to make a fresh remember?)
    With social whitewashing and eye-closing all over the country.
    See the state of Georgia electoral constraints targeting the black voters. . It s violence, freshly voted in state bilss and and prevails to this date.
    Perhaps if the author and the offended whited keep shouting, claiming and knocking at the proper doors for a few decades more just to diminish and then make this crime unbalance die down- blacks will deem it a an acceptable deal – considering their past fate has lasted many times as much.
    (still with disavantage to black side, because they had MUCH LESS doors to knock at in the past)

    • Replies: @Based Lad
  84. usNthem says:

    Yeah, but it was bean bags not bullets.

  85. Icy Blast says:

    Derbyshire describes himself as a “semitophile.” Fascinating. But one sort of person he won’t tolerate, apparently, is a Catholic. I gathered this from a few pages of his ridiculous book entitled “We’re Doomed.” So if you’re Catholic, keep your distance from Derb. He might turn into Richard Topcliffe at any moment.

    Also, Cole’s description of Los Angeles is spot-on. And Derb is still clueless about his adopted country.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  86. Based Lad says:

    Good read but “ashli babbitt” didn’t die:


    Interesting aside: the babbitt deep state psyop followed an agitprop playbook that seems to have been deployed last year. I’m sure many unz readers don’t trawl the more seedy sides of cyberspace but those of us who do have witnessed deep state machinations galore. Last year, at the height of the summer of floyd, many sites were filled with posters calling for black protests to met with deadly violence in the streets. These threads had titles like “the blacks are burning down your country aren’t you gonna do something about it you fat nazi incels”

    Luckily(?), the paranoia over glowies has worked itself so thoroughly into the mentality of the edgy dissident that it no anon was retarded or gay enough to take the bait. I believe this lack of enthusiasm towards cutting down protestors, skull mask clad and blasting synthwave, was actually a major blow to the engineered narrative. There just weren’t any nasty violent white supremacists to blame for the coons wilin out and destroying all their own shit. Activate plan b.

    Woman, air force vet, brave patriot ashli babbitt brutally gunned down by a NI- black federal agent inside the capitol. The perfect catalyst to drive the magahats into a frothing rage targeting the poor capitol police and federal agents. Ideally(in the minds of you sick alphabet fucks, not me!) Ashlis “””death””” would have excited the deplorable a to the degree that they took up arms! This was not so. Must have been an expensive performance.

  87. Based Lad says:

    “whites have exerted violence in many many forms including institutional ones — ofr
    abut three centuries”
    Is this supposed to a white-exclusive phenomenon? You do have at least a slight grasp of historical magnitude I hope?

    “See the state of Georgia electoral constraints targeting the black voters. . It s violence, freshly voted in state bilss and and prevails to this date”
    Requiring black people to get an ID is violence? Are you mad? Or just hyperbolic about the supposed plight of your beloved pet negro?

    “Perhaps if the author and the offended whited keep shouting, claiming and knocking at the proper doors for a few decades more just to diminish and then make this crime unbalance die down- blacks will deem it a an acceptable deal – considering their past fate has lasted many times as much.
    (still with disavantage to black side, because they had MUCH LESS doors to knock at in the past)”

    This prose indicates mental decrepitude. Part and parcel with an anti-white screed. Oh, don’t hold your breath, btw. White people aren’t going anywhere. We will number in the millions for the foreseeable future. I personally welcome the crucible of pain that the next centuries hold. Whites excel under duress.

  88. @KenH

    The difference is that Mestizos can absorb education and become civilized,, while Blacks can’t.

    • Replies: @Zarathustra
  89. Was Duante trying to overturn election results, John? I think not. Ashli Babbitt, the dead terrorist, was. I had to hurl some saliva into the spittoon at this mahjong parlor in order to type her name on my phone. Disgusting.

  90. Wally says:

    This explains it:

    Jews are White when they do something bad.
    They are Jews when they do something good.

  91. @cohen

    True, Trump has been a Tribal Toy all his life. Still, he energized the white base that was angry with globalism and wars for Israel. He also spoke of bettering ties with Russia, a nation hated by Jews for having resisted globo-homo. Trump also ran on ‘America First’, which reminds Jews of Lindbergh. And Trump’s campaign excited the ‘anti-semites’ of the Alt Right.

    Jews could tolerate Trump the blowhard in NY as long as he sucked up to Jews. But even as he remained a sucker-upper, he said things in 2016 that was bound to trigger Jews who are now not in survivalist mode but supremacist mode.

  92. @Carroll Price

    You really hit the nail on the head.
    Besides that South Americans have some honor rules On which they could start to build up, while Black have none only eternal grievances.

  93. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peripatetic Itch

    It has nothing to do with this. Quit coping.

  94. anarchyst says:

    Your statement:

    /Policemen doing their jobs are in stress situation every day. Now when they make a mistake they are put in in prison./

    …is incorrect, for the most part, at least here in the USA.

    The easiest person for a cop to to harass is the honest person during a traffic stop. Very rarely do traffic stops result in difficulties for police officers, the behavior of certain ethnic groups (negroes) in urban areas being an exception. The infraction is noted and recorded and the traffic ticket is issued without incident. The municipality’s coffers get a boost.

    Traffic ticket “quota systems” exist in just about every police department. Failure to write a (statistical) proper number of traffic tickets usually results in a cop’s superiors wanting to know why…and to be “encouraged” to write more tickets.

    Police on a regular beat KNOW where the criminal activity is taking place and purposely turn a “blind eye” to the criminal activities as the chance of getting into an altercation with armed individuals and groups who are willing to fight back is a distinct possibility.

    The goal of every police officer is to make it to retirement and collect a lucrative pension while starting another career. The police mantra: “To Protect and Serve” rings hollow.

    Investigating and curtailing criminal activity is simply “not worth the effort” as the chance of injury or even death is a possibility.

    Are most cops lazy?

    Yes, they are.

    It is their own self-interest, being “captains of their own ships” (cars) while on duty and the discretion to “look the other way” when observing true criminal activity while harassing honest people for statute “crimes” such as speeding or improper lane changes.

    The “qualified immunity” that cops possess further affects their behavior as “they can do no wrong”. It is a “get out of jail free” card for cops.

    The treatment that cops receive after a questionable “incident” speaks VOLUMES. Unlike an ordinary citizen who will be jailed until things are sorted out, lied to and badgered by multiple cops to evoke a (false) confession, cops are given 72 hours in which to formulate their “story”, will have a union attorney representing them, and will be given a “paid vacation” for as long as it takes to get the corrupt prosecutor to drop the charges.

    Not only that, the U S supreme court has ruled that police officers have NO duty to protect individuals, only “society at-large”. Example: A number of years ago during Detroit’s “Freedom Festival” fireworks show, gangs of negroes were snatching jewelry from white women in full view of police officers who did nothing, and wouldn’t even take a complaint from the white women.

    Being trained in israeli military “command and control” tactics is also a problem as “we are all Palestinians now”…

    • Replies: @CrimeDawg
  95. @Wally

    Dindu-Dindu murder is the same.

    Show photo of victim, never perp.

    Only ugly, croaky voiced tranny chavs like Anne Marie think else.

    • Agree: oliver elkington
  96. CrimeDawg says:

    Traffic ticket “quota systems” exist in just about every police department. Failure to write a (statistical) proper number of traffic tickets usually results in a cop’s superiors wanting to know why…and to be “encouraged” to write more tickets.Police on a regular beat KNOW where the criminal activity is taking place and purposely turn a “blind eye” to the criminal activities as the chance of getting into an altercation with armed individuals and groups who are willing to fight back is a distinct possibility.

    Your comment is correct when it comes to small towns, suburbs and overpaid state troopers on the interstates. However, in the high crime cities- such as Chicago- traffic tickets are given out but not on a large scale. In most cases, DUI’s are not strictly enforced unless you are falling down drunk. In St. Louis city, drivers frequently ignore traffic signal devices because the police are generally do not stake out minor traffic offenders and are not interested in those types of things.

    Detroit’s “Freedom Festival” fireworks show, gangs of negroes were snatching jewelry from white women in full view of police officers who did nothing, and wouldn’t even take a complaint from the white women.

    What kind of idiotic white women go to Detroit to watch fireworks? On top of that to wear expensive jewelry to such an event. If you decide to go to these types of venues- a certain level of street crime should not come as a surprise. Its absolutely pointless to then go to the police and try to file a police report and waste everyone’s time. Do you think the Detroit PD has the resources to scour all the local pawn shops to find a broken necklace? You may file a police report for a vehicle break in only for insurance purposes, but do you really expect an investigation into the incident in these types of cities?

    • Replies: @anarchyst
  97. Here’s my take on this, if you care to read it…

    Cop who shot Ashli Babbitt will not be prosecuted

    Cop who shot Daunte Wright forced to flee her home

  98. Chattel Slavery is the ENDGAME for White Folks…and it’s coming at us with the breaks off….

    I hope ROLL TIDE!! SEC NEGRO BALL was worth it you gd faggots…

  99. FHTEX says:

    This article makes lots of valid points and some racially insensitive ones. But the starting point is way off–it has been shown conclusively that Ashli Babbit’s “death” was staged: impossible shot angles; fake blood; lots of crisis actors; no ambulance , hospital, or morgue records; no police reports or charges; no obituaries or SSI death indexing. See

  100. Don’t you think it’s odd that the two Presidents in the WH are both law and order people?
    94 Crime Bill Biden
    AG Harris who locked blacks up for smoking pot, put them in Diane Feinstein’s for profit prisons and kept them in beyond their sentences

    Because when the Marxist military boot comes down the useful idiots who helped them (liberals) are the first to turn against the system once they find out what it really is.
    Then the boot is on the neck, as always and they are to ignorant to look at history.
    No dissention is allowed whatsoever in that system.

  101. Rdm says:


    They both look the same.

  102. anarchyst says:

    The Detroit “Freedom Festival” held to celebrate Independence Day used to draw tens of thousands of people from all over the state. Whites came there to have a good time and were unaware of the criminal negro element.
    Police were actually WATCHING these criminal negroes snatch jewelry and chains off of white women and did NOTHING.
    I still maintain that police are useless and take the easy way out unless they are FORCED into a situation where they have to ACT.

  103. Chinaman says:

    The pride of white nationalists

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  104. Art Deco says:

    You got just the crime, but not the dishwashers and drywallers.

    This is absurd. The employment-to-population ratio of the black population is lower than is the case for each of the other three racial categories. It is about 10% lower. The lumpenproletariat is a much larger share of the black population than it is of the population in general. However, the vast majority of blacks are ordinary wage-earners or they’re elderly pensioners who used to be wage earners.

    • Agree: Paperback Writer
  105. @Dumbo

    That’s the # 1 comment on here so far, Dumbo, IMO, though there are plenty of good ones. Ron Unz’s view on the matter makes me wonder whether he has ever lived in real, mostly White America, as in that of the early 1980s and prior, and not in California or NY City. I doubt he’d have this same opinion as in “America will be just fine. Nothing to be alarmed about, as far as the Hispanics”.

    OTOH, I understand that his other point is “it’s too late to go back to the demographics of 1980 America, so you all are just dreaming”. (I’m not quoting Mr. Unz here – just paraphrasing what I think he means.) Yeah, then why get on the right-wing anti-immigration people for their 3 decades worth of efforts?* If they had been listened to in 1995 even, things could have been turned around. The first thing you do is stop digging, even now. Wouldn’t everyone here agree with that?

    In a previous post, he said they just didn’t do a good job with these efforts. Mr. Unz got the bilingual education ended in Cali, which is admirable, but not everyone has those resources and his enemies were who, the teachers’s unions maybe? The anti-immigration stalwarts like Mr. Brimelow had the entire Establishment against them by 2000 and have ever since.

  106. Art Deco says:

    unscrupulous property developers, in cahoots with local politicians, have moved blacks out of cities like St. Louis and Milwaukee to Section Eight housing in small towns like Ferguson, Missouri and Kenosha, Wisconsin.

    Ferguson is not a ‘small town’. It’s a down-market suburb northwest of St. Louis. Kenosha is not a ‘small town’ either. It’s a discrete small city. The the tract development in Kenosha and adjacent municipalities has a population of over 100,000. There is intervening countryside separating it from the suburban blob around Chicago to its south and also intervening countryside separating it from greater Racine to its north.

    Sailer is loath to give you numbers when he starts talking like this, because the numbers reveal the migratory streams are quite minor. About 2.8% of the population currently lives in federally subsidized housing. About 43% of these are black, accounting for ~9.3% of the black population. A subset of these are in project-based Section 8 or are issued housing vouchers. This subset amounts to about 7.8% of the black population. The share exported in the manner Sailer describes is smaller still. (Most blacks in Ferguson in 2010 lived in owner-occupied housing). Greater Kenosha is about 10% black; Wisconsin in toto – of which the majority of the population live in exurban, small town, and rural zones – is 6.3% black.

  107. DaveE says:
    @Bill Jones

    Why do you say ‘LIVING’ Hell ?

    Some folks just gotta GO, or at least given a preview of what awaits.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  108. Mike Tre says:

    The unspoken sub plot of both of these incidents is that we have females assuming roles meant for men in the first place.

    An army veteran and a police officer. We now send our women to fight wars and to arrest violent negroes. We have been taught that observing the most basic, as well as most important, natural role of females (to birth and raise our children) is misogynist and patriarchal. Any society that sends its women off to do men’s work is indeed doomed.

    • Agree: Rich, GeneralRipper
  109. Avery says:

    {“Next time I shoot an un-armed kid in the chest can you be on my jury?”}

    1. You as a private citizen do not have the same ‘presumption’ as a sworn police officer.

    2. The State (taxpayers) spend a ton of money training cops. They are trained to shoot and hit targets (…people). They also have very strict rules as to when they can pull a gun and fire. They undergo extensive background checks. They are evaluated psychologically, etc. etc. Yes, sometimes nuts pass thru the filters somehow*.

    3. The cops responding to the area were responding to “shots fired”. In fact, there were 8 shots fired by the adult accomplice of the 13-Y.O.

    4. What is a 13 year old doing with an adult gang member at 2AM in the morning?

    5. Would everyone be happy if the cop hesitated and was shot in the face?

    6. Again, what is a 13 year old doing with an adult gang member who a few minutes prior fired 8 shots at someone, and who gave the gun the kid: why is it that nobody is blaming the adult gang member or the absent parents of the 13 year old ?. The adult gang member basically set up the kid to get shot.

    7. ……And a routine traffic stop can result in this:

    [Watch: Georgia deputies responding to gunfire met by suspect shooting AK-47]

    There is no end to this: Americans are an armed society, but with a twist. It’s not like Switzerland. Cops can be patrolling in a nice neighborhood one minute and they are in a war zone the next.
    * [Austin police identify former sheriff’s detective accused of rape as suspect behind massacre].

  110. Behold, the holy communion of Dinduism
    What are the tenets of Dinduism
    Who are the enlightened ones? And what is the path to be lit up, er, enlightened?
    The rites of the Order of the Sacred Section Eight. In that case the correction would be “What Who are the tenants…”
    1. The Dindu is infallible in all interactions with unbelievers. At all times the Dindu dindu nuffin.

    2. The Dindu is always a saint, gentle giant, pillar of the community, sweet boy whom everyone loved. Saint Swisher, Saint Skittles, Saint Sammich , Saint Fentanyl Floyd the Breathless. , St. Ahmaud of Brunswick , St. Rayshard , St. Jacob of Kenosha County and St. Daunte Wright

    3. The Dindu is a martyr, persecuted unjustly by society, the police, and the white hispanic.

    4. Life is suffering. White men and the wealthy are the cause of all suffering. There is a path to end suffering. The path is violence and looting.

    5.If someone has material wealth that you desire, they automatically must have acquired it via evil and oppression. When you perpetrate violence to steal their wealth, it is an act of liberation and the casting off of an oppressor.

    6.Yo’ Momma will always save you.

    7. Is Fergadishu the new Mecca for Dinduism?

    8.”they all Trayvon”. “no justis , no peas”

    9.”That’s real retarded sir” – the prophet Rachel Jeantel

    10. In Dinduism you must always strive to turn your life around. But you may not do so until you reach the afterlife.

    Dinduist Philosopher … droppin’ syince yo.
    Facts have no place in Dinduism.
    You best check yo privilege.

  111. Panadechi says:

    The Coal Policeman, only obeyed his masters.

  112. If you were to ask Steve Sailer, who’s done some deep diving in this pond, he would likely tell you that unscrupulous property developers, in cahoots with local politicians, have moved blacks out of cities … .

    Sailer is 100% correct, except he failed to mention Los Angeles. There has been since the 1990’s a silent movement of blacks from neighborhoods like Watts, S. Central and Compton to out lying areas such as Riverside, San Bernardino etc. Same M.O. Single family mothers on section 8 housing.
    As a society, how do we square the trial of Derrick Chauvin with the exoneration of the black cop who killed Ashley Babbit? We don’t. Don’t worry! The division of society is all going as planned. Personally I think MLK was assassinated for this simple reason: He had the capacity to bring blacks and whites together. And, that is big brothers worst nightmare.
    It’s very hard to get around the psychological (brainwashing) power that Main Stream Media has over the average Joe. Chris Cuomo recently called for the shooting of White children. Just as the media created the rise in attacks on Asians, we can look forward to this:

    • Thanks: Majority of One
  113. Marty says:

    Good luck to you and your siblings.

  114. bayviking says:

    This author is drawing ridiculous conclusions from a couple of anecdotal events, although there is little doubt the mass media deserves the criticism he heaps on them. You are at least twice as likely to end up dead over a minor traffic stop or just walking to a 7-11, if you are black than if you are white. There is simply no reason for the police to be shooting anybody for an expired registration, especially a 13 year old who could not be responsible for paying the bill, even though they have no business driving either. Tow the car and either call the parents or drive the kid home.

    The problem is American policemen have inadequate training, many incorrectly believe every stop puts their lives at risk, a lesser group incorrectly believes every stop of a black man is especially dangerous. Being a fisherman, construction worker or garbage man is far more dangerous than being a policeman.

    The biggest problem is the police, CIA, FBI, NSA, State Department and military are disproportionately full of right wing nutcases that shoot accused drug users, thieves, bad drivers socialists, communists and even people that forgot to pay their registration, at the drop of a hat and are rarely held accountable for these disproportionate responses. No knock search warrants based on unreliable informants is a common practice in this country which is completely out of control for a long time. There are a few exceptions which this author is over-blowing, but left wing political organizations are most susceptible to this type of militarized police abuse. J Edgar Hoover’s obsession with destroying Martin Luther King is but one of thousands of examples.

    The biggest problem is not black on white violence, by the police or the public. White communities are protected far better by the police than black communities. And, yes, segregation is still alive and well in the USA, in spite of the fact that significant progress has been made since the fifties.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @Carroll Price
    , @utu
  115. lol at thinking you’re not going to get shot when you’re leading a mob through a broken window. It was Ashli’s stupidity and narcissism that led to her death.

    Of course cowards like Derb encourage other people to do the dangerous stuff.

  116. @cohen

    Jews historically work both sides of countries and politics, while being loyal to neither, allowing them to jump from one side to the other, and from one country to another.

  117. @bayviking

    With segregation of blacks and whites having proved itself correct, and integration daily proveing itself a disaster, I hope you’re correct in stating that segregation is alive and well.

  118. Had it not been for the tragedies in the killings of unarmed people, reading about Americans trapped in their binary straitjackets of black and white would be quite amusing. And we are unlikely to extricate ourselves from that straitjacket any time soon. It defines us. Always has.

  119. utu says:

    “…in both cases is cops deciding it is best to err on the safe side and killing people without actually trying to find out if it is necessary…” – This is how they are trained. The decisions are driven by training and explicit and implicit rules of engagement rather than the evaluation of specific situations. It is probably hard to even speak of decision or deliberate decision process in such case. They just shoot to kill and in 99.75% cases do not bear any consequences that only assures them that their actions were right so the rules of engagement that taught and trained them are never questioned and thus not modified. It is the impunity that drives the reality of way too many unnecessary shootings by police.
    There are 1000 killings by police per year.

    Seventy-seven officers have been charged with murder or manslaughter since 2005, according to data collected and analyzed by Stinson’s research group:
    • 26 were convicted;
    • 28 were not convicted;
    • 23 still have criminal cases pending
    Since 2005, 98 nonfederal law enforcement officers have been arrested in connection with fatal, on-duty shootings, according to the Police Integrity Research Group’s data. To date, only 35 of these officers have been convicted of a crime, often a lesser offense such as manslaughter or negligent homicide, rather than murder.

    35 conviction since 2005 translates to 2.5 convictions per year which translates to 99.75% impunity factor in 1000 per year killings by police.

  120. utu says:

    “…Blacks, they could be natural allies for Whites …” – Excellent point. For racist Jews like Ron Unz and David Cole Blacks are unredeemable who should be ethnically cleansed if only by dilution. They argue in favor of South American immigration explicitly as race replacement strategy. So there is another angle to the origin of the “Jews will not replace us” slogan of Charlottesville protesters. To dilute Black population from 14% to 7% and reduce the deleterious impact of Blacks by half by bringing 320 millions of South Americans immigrants will dilute White population by half as well while the ratio of Black to White populations will remain unchanged. Is the reduction of relative numbers of Blacks by half worth 320 million extra immigrants. I am pretty sure that for real estate developers and slumlords it is worth it.

  121. Loup-Bouc says:

    concerning Derek Chauvin’s murder of Floyd (and other involved policemen’s murderous participation).

    I shall not reply to comments addressing this comment or to comments addressing the above-linked articles. The above-linked articles speak for themselves.

  122. 36 ulster says:
    @Robert Dolan

    It’s a little different here in Chicago. The Hispanic gangs have some competition from the Catholic and Evangelical clergy. Demographically, the residents of Little Village and Pilsen may be a little older than the Hispanics of CA, so that may also be a reason for the Barrios’ relative forbearance. Then there is the presence of large numbers of Hispanic-owned businesses; presumably, many owners as well as workers live in or near these neighborhoods. We’re tempted to laugh at the protests of gang members who insist that they’re protecting the neighborhood, but last year gang members and other men of Little Village combined to repulse attempts by BLM to bring their Mostly Peaceful Protests from the West Side across the BNSF railway right-of-way–just as, over 50 years ago, their fathers and grandpas guarded the underpasses and the railway embankment during the post-MLK-assassination riots. Last year, in our peaceful “Kosciuszko Park” neighborhood, some of our businesses were boarded up–just in case BLM and Antifa launched a foray up here. That air of menace is absent–for now, anyway.

  123. bayviking says:

    Does anybody seriously believe that if the Black Panthers or Students for a Democratic Society attacked the Capital building that only two people would have been killed?

    The pattern of institutionalized violence against American citizens is heavily against left leaning activists, even more than the apparent racist problems.

    When I say segregation is alive and well, new laws and money overcome it every time. Thus Michael Jordan and even OJ Simpson can live wherever they want. But, for the average black man subtle obstacles exist. As a white man I was able to purchase a third home in Southern California with 5% down which has gone up \$100,000 in one year. That consideration is not available to everyone.

    • Replies: @Rich
  124. utu says:

    The problem is American policemen have inadequate training, many incorrectly believe every stop puts their lives at risk, a lesser group incorrectly believes every stop of a black man is especially dangerous. Being a fisherman, construction worker or garbage man is far more dangerous than being a policeman.

    American police kills too many people. The rate of killing is 20-50 time higher than in some European countries. But Americans are not perturbed by it. There will be no pressure on police to teach them appropriate rules of engagement and of deescalation procedures. Majority of commentariat here at Unz is quite happy with American police. The fact that the pathology of suicide by police developed in America clearly shows that American police has been acculturated to wrong rules of engagement.

    The only time when killing by police makes big news is when it is turned into a racial issue by BLM which is a part of the problem, not solution. Turning any social problem in America into the race issue guarantees that the problem will not be solved (*). The slavery is the gift that keeps on giving to the owners of America. One may suspect that BLM was created on purpose to entrench the problem of police brutality further.

    Does police kill disproportionately more Blacks than Whites? While more Whites are killed than Blacks, Blacks are killed at 2.8 times higher rate:

    Deaths Due to Use of Lethal Force by Law Enforcement (Nov. 2016)

    Victims were majority white (52%) but disproportionately black (32%) with a fatality rate 2.8 times higher among blacks than whites. Most victims were reported to be armed (83%); however, black victims were more likely to be unarmed (14.8%) than white (9.4%) or Hispanic (5.8%) victims. Fatality rates among military veterans/active duty service members were 1.4 times greater than among their civilian counterparts. Four case subtypes were examined based on themes that emerged in incident narratives: about 22% of cases were mental health related; 18% were suspected “suicide by cop” incidents, with white victims more likely than black or Hispanic victims to die in these circumstances;

    But when the data are normalized by the probability of interactions and contacts with police which is higher for Blacks the rates of killings by police among Whites, Blacks and Hispanics are similar:

    Perils of police action: a cautionary tale from US data sets (Jul 2016)

    US police killed or injured an estimated 55 400 people in 2012 (95% CI 47 050 to 63 740 for cases coded as police involved). Blacks, Native Americans and Hispanics had higher stop/arrest rates per 10 000 population than white non-Hispanics and Asians. On average, an estimated 1 in 291 stops/arrests resulted in hospital-treated injury or death of a suspect or bystander. Ratios of admitted and fatal injury due to legal police intervention per 10 000 stops/arrests did not differ significantly between racial/ethnic groups.

    If we use incarceration data by race as the surrogate of criminality and number of interactions with police which for Whites and Blacks are approximately equal we may conclude that Whites are disproportionately more often (1.6 times) killed by police than Blacks. Is it because (1) there are more suicides by police among Whites or (2) Blacks are more aware of police lethality and thus they are less belligerent than less aware Whites when stopped by police or (3) the police is more reluctant to shoot Blacks because the rigmarole they had to go through after the shooting is more severe and cumbersome than after the shooting of Whites – as I said Whites are pretty happy with police and rarely protest when one of their own is killed by police? Or that the incarceration rate is not a good surrogate as Blacks are relatively over-charged and serve longer sentences.

    (*) “Because turning any social problem in America into the race issue guarantees that the problem will not be solved” – I think this is true and thus I wonder what the HBDist and IQist like Sailer, Derbyshire and Unz are really up to. They are not stupid people, so why do they exacerbate problems by making people bark at the wrong tree?

    • Replies: @bayviking
  125. @DaveE

    I’m notorious for my generosity.

  126. Marckus says:

    I hear what you say but it seems to confirm my points.

    Blacks will always be a minority. Even in Africa when the leader of Tribe A becomes President and Dictator for Life, members of his tribe continue to be trampled and of course tribe B to Z get it in the neck.

    Even in Africa,in countries run by blacks, other races dominate the economy and sadly corrupt the politicians to the detriment of the common man. Blacks, fortunate enough to rise to the top have no use for other blacks.

    I see the same pattern of behaviour in the States.

    Your point :Therefore, a big slice of the pie is relevant and valid. Blacks, right now 13% of the population eat up a whole lot of freebies. My sense ( and I could be wildly wrong) from what I have seen is that while Hispanics may initially hang their their mouths at the trough, many do not, and those who do recognise there is no future or advancement in it for them. Many, many Hispanics dream of raising enough money to buy a house cash, back in the old country and raise a small business. The majority of blacks have no such aspirations.

    Many large cities have areas where Spanish, not Ebonics, English or Chinese is the dominant language. In 50 years or more if you dont speak the language you are screwed. Whether fair or not right or wrong this is going to be a reality. Hispanics, even black Hispanics have little or no use for Afro Americans. I doubt one can find an Afro Cuban, Afro Colombian or Afro Brazilian. They consider themselves Hispanic and the majority look at the whole Afro thing in the US as absolute bunk. Pablo, the blackest Hispanic you could find could give a shit about Leroy or Abdul.

    As these people become more dominant the Afro American will lose the sympathy he now enjoys under the white man. He will still remain at the bottom mostly because he chooses to remain there but will be worse off than ever.

    The proof is already in the pudding. We just need to observe any Latin American country to see this in practice.

    • Agree: Rich
  127. Rich says:

    The overwhelming majority of Jews in America are as Pale as Scotsmen. In the old Confederacy they were allowed to own land and vote. Many geneticists have concluded their origin is from an Italian woman in the medieval era. When blacks riot, they’ll attack a Jew, an Irishman or a Pole, shouting the same anti-White slogans. Liike ’em, love ’em or loathe ’em, they’re White. And if the black revolution ever succeeds, the Jews will be on the same reservation as all the other Palefaces.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @James Forrestal
  128. Chevrus says:

    Maybe a small piece of the of the picture, but it seems as though many shootings and other mass casualty events are not quite what they are portrayed to be.
    This video

    Video Link

  129. Rich says:

    Black panthers and sds? You just wake up there Rip van Winkle? It’s 2021, not 1968. When a mob of antifas, the modern equivalent of your old time sds terrorists, attacked a police station and a courthouse, the state retreated. When blm, your modern day black panthers, rampaged through the streets, no one did anything. Wake up, Rip, it’s a new age, very similar to your 1960s, but a little different.

    • Replies: @bayviking
  130. Truth says:

    the Jews will be on the same reservation as all the other Palefaces.

    Maybe, but they will own all the buffalo, flint, and bows-and-arrows, and they will have copywrights to the rain-dances so their pueblos will be irrigated first…

  131. bayviking says:

    You make a lot of good points there. Sticking to the facts is always a good idea.

    To which I would add, when you are rightly or wrongly pulled over by a policeman the best course of action is to be extremely polite. I always address the cop as “sir”. I have been spared a few tickets that way. If you question his authority, talk rude, etc, you are asking for trouble. How much trouble depends on the personality of the cop.

  132. bayviking says:

    You have no idea, nor do I, whether any Antifa were present during that well organized right wing attack on the Capital. We do know for certain that the FBI and CIA infiltrate left wing and right wing extremist groups all the time and when they want to discredit the group they use their unlimited resources to incite internal conflict and violence in the streets.

    Yes, there is an element of Rip Van Winkle to my examples, but the underlying point has not changed much over the years, except that J Edgar Hoover finally died and all his files were immediately destroyed by his lifelong boyfriend who also happened to run the human resources department of the FBI. No one has proved how much government infiltration there has been of Antifa or BLM. But, we know government agents infiltrated these other groups, including Timothy McVeigh’s right wing group. For all we know the FBI may have provided the know how to built that ferocious bomb in order to gain access. Unfortunately they lost track of where McVeigh was and what he was doing. McVeigh was plotting revenge for the FBI attack at Ruby Ridge.

    Left wing group leaders recognize that they cannot achieve their goals when they resort to violence. Government agents with right wing points of view, which pervade the military, police and intelligence community, have a history of deliberately infiltrating these groups and inciting violence. That has been proven for past events, but not current ones, yet. Best to use proven facts.

    • Replies: @Rich
    , @GeneralRipper
    , @anon
  133. Rich says:

    I was referring to antifa attacks in Portland. The mostly peaceful rally at the capital building where a small group of people took selfies and broke three windows wasn’t up to antifa standards.

    • Replies: @bayviking
  134. @bayviking

    Left wing group leaders recognize that they cannot achieve their goals when they resort to violence. Government agents with right wing points of view, which pervade the military, police and intelligence community, have a history of deliberately infiltrating these groups and inciting violence.

    LOL…You should donate your brain to “science”, my man.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
  135. utu,

    I have to admit, if accurate those are some very effective data sets

  136. @VICB3

    I hung tons of drywall in the mid 80’s and was displaced by the mestizo invasion. I never saw any blacks on construction sites and I worked the giant sub divisions. Everyone was white and within a few years everyone but the bosses were mestizos.

    Blacks do not do well in jobs where supervision is difficult. A big subdivision needs workers who can look after themselves. Where did you get the idea blacks were hanging drywall at all let alone dominating the trade. You are wrong.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  137. anon[105] • Disclaimer says:

    Government agents with right wing points of view, which pervade the military, police and intelligence community

    yeah thats why the FBI covered for Hillary Clinton and went after the Trump campaign

    thanks for the laugh

  138. TRM says:

    True that Zionists supported Trump as he was just a shill for everything they wanted. Jews on the other hand supported Clinton as almost 90% of Jews are registered Democrats.

    It should show the Jews that their leaders (owners) in the Zionist faction do not care one iota about what they want. All Zion all the time and to hell with everyone else including Jews who dare to disagree with them (see Max Blumenthal, Giliad Atzmon & Lee Camp for examples).

    Not all Jews are Zionists and not all Zionists are Jews.

  139. eckbach says:

    Jacob Frey was born of a “Russian” Jewish (Khazar) mother. They don’t claim to be “white.”

  140. Art Deco says:
    @James Scott

    About 55% of those in ‘construction and extraction occupations’ are white, 7% black, and 36% hispanic (< 2% other). Drywall hanging is unusual in that 1% are black and 73% are hispanic.

  141. Meanwhile in Oakland, California…

    Some Black Gangstas firebombed (yes like the Klan used to do back in the day) the home of a 37 year old immigrant and liquor store clerk killing him and his baby daughter.

    By the name I believe the immigrant was Arab or Persian. The firebombing of this man’s home murdering him and his baby daughter at the hand of some bloodthirsty wild animals in Oakland should be nationwide news. Not a peep from Stelter’s CNN or the other Jew run media outlets. It wasn’t even the leading story on our own local media outlets.

  142. bayviking says:

    and I was pointing out that government infiltrators instigate this violence, not legitimate left wing leaders. Sometimes these government agents even use right wing goons that hate Antifa and BLM to get the violence started. Sometimes they just need to fire up the many angry blacks that occupy this country. Meeting blacks in the Caribbean, who are poor as can be yet very happy, provides a stunning comparative contrast.

    In the never ending class war between the haves and have nots, the haves control the media, the government and have been very successful in breaking unions, lowering their taxes, creating the most massive prison system in the world, dumbing down education, offshoring jobs and lowering the standard of living for the average American so they can have more. In the fifties a janitor could buy a car, a home and raise a family. Today that is impossible. During the pandemic this problem has grown worse. Libertarianism is a fraud, a growing fraud.

    • Replies: @Majority of One
    , @utu
  143. @BorisMay

    Actually, the slave traders picked the “low hanging fruit” so to speak. African tribes
    dumped their losers on the slavers. A good friend of mine, who is of west Indian descent,
    said much the same thing, to wit, “American blacks are some of the dumbest n*****s
    he’s ever seen.”

    Best Regards,

    • Replies: @freedom-cat
  144. I don’t support the riots at all. The white cop should be given fair trial and at this point it does look accidental.

    But, Babbitt was breaching a purposely built blockade in the Capitol building. I still don’t think the cop should have shot her, especially when none of the security on her side of the barricade stopped her. The barricade was set up to protect the Capitol building and any official inside. The Babbit and Wright killings are not comparable. Two entirely different situations.

  145. Biden just announced, (4/20/2021) that he was praying that the verdict in the Chauvin trial, “IS THE RIGHT VERDICT”. Why does he interject himself in such a way as to only confirm his hatred and attacks on European Americans? He just doesn’t get it. Around eighty plus million American voters don’t really care what he thinks!!

  146. @mderpelding

    There are certainly some super stupid whites; I work with them on a daily basis.

  147. TheMoon says:

    A working stun weapon, and I mean Star Trek “phaser on stun” type of “working” where you shoot someone and they drop unconscious regardless of how big they are or what drugs they took, is the trillion dollar idea that solves much of this.

    Wouldn’t surprise me if the tech exists somewhere, hidden away.

  148. @bayviking

    Good points. Now you are beginning to sound like you might have some Scandihoovian roots.

  149. utu says:

    Sailers, Derbyshires and Unz by publishing them do what they can to stoke the fire under the racial tension pot. The lack of interest about the class issues among the rightoids like them comes form their IQist dogma that teaches them that the social hierarchy is predetermined by biology.

  150. Spartacus says:

    Today they kill white cops. Tomorrow, white people.

  151. Dani says:

    For some reason, this particular “shooting” didn’t seem to want to “stick ‘n stay”, as they say. I did see a headline somewhere online referring to Middle Eastern/Indian family – 4 of the 8 were of that ethnicity? Honestly, I didn’t have it in me to read about it at this point.
    I’m also still trying to unravel how in the hell it is that on Sunday night there appeared to be 6 or 7 different shootings circulating in the local news clips on YouTube. Glendale, AZ, Philadelphia, Austin, TX, and easily 3 or 4 others I can’t recall…they were all listed as “new” under local ABC/CBS and Fox satellite news stations…geez, I guess I have to assume none of them fit the “bill”…I did see one was a black man who had been in law enforcement, maybe the one out of Austin, not sure…the one out of Philly was a 7-year-old black girl…got the impression at least 6 people were dead out of all of them…if this is the case and none of these garner mainstream attention because WE KNOW WHY then this is so beyond unacceptable it simply can’t be tolerated.
    Having to hear that fake VP bitch gush out her “systemic racism” in her Floyd victory speech tapped me out of any and all tolerance I may have had left up until that moment. All whites need to be speaking up about the rampant, horrific, black on white crime issue, which is the REAL hate crime problem in the U.S. If for no other reason than for the safety of the millions of unsuspecting, innocent white children who are walking around clueless due to the ignorance (intentional or otherwise) of their own useless parents. This white lady has HAD IT.

  152. @Rich

    Jews in America are as Pale and blablabla

    lol — not the notorious “Just Skin Color, Goy!™” trope again. That’s just a minimal layer of mystification applied to the long-debunked semitic canard of “muh social construct”:

    Lazy pilpul is lazy.

    • Replies: @Rich
  153. @Phibbs

    I disagree with Derbyshire in that he claims Jews are whites.

    Yeah and he does it more than once — Frey and Cole; though at least he admits that Cole is a MOT. He just sneaks it in as an implicit assumption without even attempting to justify it. The first instance is the most egregious:

    We have, as the late Larry Auster told us, descended into an ersatz religion, with black people as the sacred objects. The emblematic image of our time: Minneapolis Mayor (((Jacob Frey))), a “white” man, kneeling in reverent supplication before the gilded casket of black street thug George Floyd.


    No. It’s quite clear that Frey does not see the European diaspora as his “in-group”/ the focus of his identity:

    “Frey, who moved to Minneapolis in 2009, after law school, is a strong cultural Jew

    So Frey’s actions are clearly not driven by his supposed “fellow feeling” for goyim of European ancestry. In fact, in this piece, Frey openly admits the exact opposite, telling the Jewish Telegraph Agency that his actions are largely driven by the semitic “moral imperative” of “tikkuning the goyim.”

    And Mr. Frey’s self-perceived identity makes a huge difference in interpreting his behavior here. Two possibilities:

    1. If you accept the false claim that Frey truly “identifies” largely with the European diaspora, then he is demonstrating “self-hatred”* here — he wants his “fellow Whites” to follow his example in extravagant displays of out-group preference/ sacralizing the Negro “Other” because “White Guilt” and some sort of universalist moral conviction and blablabla.

    2. But if you realize the truth — that Mr. Frey’s primary allegiance is to the Levantine part of his ancestry, and that his actions are driven by in-group preference toward fellow members of his semitic tribe, and that he views indigenous Europeans and their diaspora, not as his “brothers,” but as the most dangerous part of the hated and feared goy “Other”… then it’s clear that he is merely LARPing as a “White” man in order to model the “appropriate,” “expected” rituals that the White goyim are expected to engage in to demonstrate the “required” levels of obeisance/ self-hatred. Hatred directed at their people, not his.

    A similar pattern of semitic “tactical Whiteness” in order to promote anti-White hatred is quite common on social media, where it’s typically known as the “My Fellow White Person” trope.

    This is very much analogous to a behavior pattern that is commonly seen in non-human animals:

    Mr. Frey has utilized the notorious “MFWP” technique for subversive/ anto-White purposes in the past:

    “That was the lake’s name before people who look like me renamed it to honor a ‘slavery apologist’…”

    Derbyshire’s claim that it is truly Blacks that are the top focus of sacralization by the major semitic narrative promotion agencies is “problematic” as well. They’re clearly a lesser god. Just a means to an end, really — a tool to deconstruct White identity/ destroy America. Only one group can really be the most sacred Tribe of Supreme Victims… and it sure ain’t Negroes:

    *Oddly enough (or not) “self-hating jew” is officially a “thing,” while “self-hating White” has yet to achieve mainstream reification:

    According to The Narrative, the “worst” thing a jew can be is “self-hating” [i.e. exhibiting “too little” racial/ ethnic in-group preference], while the “worst” thing a White can be is a “r****t” [i.e. exhibiting “too much” racial/ ethnic in-group preference]. Odd.

  154. @GeneralRipper

    LOL…You should donate your brain to “science”, my man.

    Well… his ostensible “argument” is nonsensical on its own terms as dialectic, of course. But his intent appears to be more rhetorical/ tactical — he’s not really trying to make a coherent argument; just trying to reframe the underlying narrative away from issues of systemic semitism and the inevitable adverse effects of toxic levels of “diversity,” and toward a vague, pointless “right” vs. “left” debate. So in that sense it’s not quite as moronic as it at first might appear.

    Though his “theory” that J. Edgar Hoover and the KKK secretly infiltrated the BLM/ antifa riots and committed all of the arson/ looting/ assaults/ murders, while the Blacks and jews “dindu nuffin” and were “just peacefully protesting”… It sounds (and is) patently ridiculous. But if you leave out the obvious anachronisms, it’s not really that far off from the officially-endorsed narrative promoted by the major “news” agencies. He just forgot that, not only is Hoover dead, but the feebs are now officially the “good guys” to mainstream neoliberals, so you’re supposed to invoke imaginary “Evil White Supreemist Boogaloo Boyz” as the sneaky infiltrators who supposedly snuck in pretending to be Blacks in order to make the “community” look bad ‘n sheeut:

  155. @Chinaman

    Doesn’t look all that European. Possibly some kind of Baltic or Uralic finngolian, or Saami. Makes sense, given the sculptor.
    It’s White, Jim, but not as we know it.

    If pushed, I’d guess somewhere between the Komi/Kalmyk/Tatar people.
    Which reminds me, I’ve met quite a few Saami, most are short and dark haired, but they have a quotient of startlingly blond blond(e)s and more gingers than one might expect. And their skin is like yogurt. When do they start getting down on their knees to proffer reparations to their dusky First-World overlords?

  156. Rich says:
    @James Forrestal

    Yeah, albinism determines race. Face it, Jimmy, whether you like them or not, they’re Caucasians. Even in the Confederacy, and I think those boys knew a little about who was White and who wasn’t, they were allowed to own land and vote. But you can set up whatever categories you like.

  157. Yeah, albinism determines race and blablabla

    Yeah it was real… in your “mind.” Meanwhile, back in reality land, when you make this kind of pathetic, failed attempt to claim “B-b-but I can’t tell which one of those guys is of European ancestry, which one is Oriental, and which one is a kushi! Because race = Just Skin Color, Goy™! HONEST!” — every normal person understands that you’re simply lying.

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