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Jorge Ramos, “one of the most influential journalists of the day,” has a one-hour talk program on the Fusion TV channel Tuesday nights, with repeats through the week. Name of the program: “America.”

On this week’s program Ramos interviewed Ann Coulter, whose latest book,Adios, America! The Left’s Plan to Turn Our Country into a Third World Hellhole, is to be published on Monday, June 1st.

Wednesday afternoon my VDARE.com colleague Alan Wall alerted us to the interview, with a 1m49s video clip from YouTube. [“Ann Coulter: ‘If you don’t want to be killed by ISIS, don’t go to Syria.’”]

About the same time a reader sent me a 4m46s clip from the interview via Breitbart. [Coulter to Ramos: You are a Cultural Imperialist.]

Good stuff! Ann looked to be on great form in the interview, kicking the smarmy, sinister Ramos all over the studio.

In the first of those clips Ramos tries to fix an HBD sticker on Ann:

He: “Do you think that people are biologically predisposed to commit crimes?”

She: “No. I think there are cultures that are obviously deficient; and if they weren’t deficient, you wouldn’t be sitting in America interviewing me, I’d be sitting in Mexico. You fled that culture …”

Ah, culture! The phlogiston, the luminiferous æther of social-science explanation! Heaven forbid we should think that biology accounts for anything!

In fact people are biologically predisposed to commit crimes. Antisocial behavior, like all other dimensions of personality, has a large heritable component.

But bringing forward hatefacts like that will get you shut out from major media outlets, though. Ann was wise to duck as Ramos lunged forward with the HBD sticker.

In fact, my impression is that Ann, who is a creationist, is genuinely skeptical of biology and truly believes the blank-slate “culture” flimflam. That’s OK: if culturism works as a debating point against the demographic transformation of the U.S.A., let’s use it.

Ramos was out of his depth against Ann, lumbering around the ring ineffectually like Liston against Ali as Ann bobbed, weaved, ducked, and landed the occasional solid punch.

She missed one or two good counters, though, as one is bound to do when arguing on the fly.

Ramos, at 2m09s in the second clip:

“Let me just give you this number … The number of foreign-born population, the percentage foreign-born population, 1900s was 13.6 percent; in 1910, 14.7 percent; right now, 13 percent. In other words, the percentage of the foreign-born population in this country hasn’t changed, so you’re crying wolf when there’s no problem.”

Thus in Ramos’s mind, the great Immigration Pause from 1924 to 1965 never happened; the labor-led immigration-restrictionist movement of the early 20th century had no result. That would have been good for at least five minutes tossing and goring, if Ann had picked up on it.

Still, it seems to have been a fine spirited performance by the lady—one of the few strong immigration patriots now permitted on TV.

Eager to see more, I went downstairs and switched on my TV, hoping to catch one of the repeats. I called up the channel numbers for Fusion, but only got messages telling me I’d have to pay for a subscription.

That goes against the grain. We’re basic-subscription consumers of cable TV, aside from a brief foray last year into the streaming Netflix service. (Which turned out to have far fewer selections than the DVD-by-mail option.)

Googling around, I see that Fusion is a joint business venture by Univision and the Walt Disney Company. Given that Univision is a Reconquista-ethnocentric outlet, and that Jorge Ramos is indeed a Hispanic cultural imperialist, and that Disney is in the forefront of corporate America’s push to replace our nation’s native-born labor force with cheaper foreigners, I decided I don’t want to take the risk of adding anything to Fusion’s revenues—even for purposes of journalistic due diligence.

Put it another way: You couldn’t pay me enough to support these scum.

Googling some more, I turned up Fusion TV’s mission statement, or at least self-description. They are, they tell us:

Championing a young, diverse, and inclusive America with a unique mix of programming that includes original reporting, investigative journalism, coverage of pop culture, satire and comedy, as well as original series and documentaries.

Processing that through my Marghanita Laski de-euphemizer (Ms. Laski was the writer who translated the expression “economy designer couture for the mature fuller figure” as “cheap ugly dresses for fat old women”), I find that Fusion TV is vapid CultMarx fluff for Pajama Boy types who find MSNBC too cognitively challenging.

So no, I don’t want to subscribe to Fusion.

Still, I did want to see more of the Coulter-Ramos punch-up, so I went back to YouTube. Here I found a couple more short clips.

In Ann Coulter refuses to hug immigration activist, Ann takes an audience question. A morbidly obese Mexican woman waddles up to the mike and asks: “Can I give you a hug?”

Ann politely declines, telling the woman she is recovering from flu. Nothing deterred, the woman presses her suit. After identifying herself as an illegal alien—she of course says “undocumented immigrant”—she declares that she “wants to, as a sign of my humanity and yours, recognize you and say, ‘Can I give you a hug?’”

It’s a cute little attempt at a sentimentalizing power play; and goodness knows, sentimentalizing the immigration issue has worked wonders for open borders activists. Hard to blame the woman for trying it.

Ann is too smart for this stuff, though; or perhaps she feared permanent skeletal damage in an embrace from this particular embodiment—or enlardment—of the undocumented community.

“No, let’s get on with the question,” says Ann briskly. The clip ends without us hearing the question, though.

In a second clip, Ann Coulter: ‘You’re not black, so drop the racism crap’, a young man from Honduras identifies himself as a legal resident who will soon attain citizenship.

He then plays the white-guilt card:

He: “Dealing with immigration, don’t you think that this will be more as a discrimination or racism [sic], and basically the United States should be a country that shows the world that racist [sic] is a bad thing for everybody?”

Ann: “It’s not about race, it’s about culture.”

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He: “The United States, believe it or not, it’s one of the countries … besides … one of the biggest country. The United States is the country that has to deal more with racism, and that’s part of the crimination [sic], and me, as a Latin Hispanic, we feel bad because of that. We support a lot of the United States economy, and basically United States economy, it’s because of Latin people.”

Ann has been showing clear signs of restlessness through the young chap’s clumsy, incoherent attempt at guilt-tripping. Now she comes back with the not-race-but-culture line. There is a brief joust, then Ann delivers her punch line: “The answer is: You’re not black, so drop the racism crap.”

It’s marvelous to see this splendid patriot defending her positions with such vigor and skill, shoving the dishonest, guilt-tripping, sentimental pap of the invaders and cheap-labor shills right back in their faces.

Ann Coulter says as much as can be said in the present cramped, hypocritical state of our public discourse. She goes as far as anyone can to go without her TV hosts dragging out the fainting couches and summoning the Thought Police.

Damn good luck to her—and all success to this latest book.

John Derbyshire [email him] writes an incredible amount on all sorts of subjects for all kinds of outlets. (This no longer includes National Review, whose editors had some kind of tantrum and fired him. ) He is the author of We Are Doomed: Reclaiming Conservative Pessimism and several other books. His most recent book, published by VDARE.com com is FROM THE DISSIDENT RIGHT (also available in Kindle).His writings are archived at JohnDerbyshire.com.

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  1. Hepp says:

    In fact, my impression is that Ann, who is a creationist, is genuinely skeptical of biology and truly believes the blank-slate “culture” flimflam. That’s OK: if culturism works as a debating point against the demographic transformation of the U.S.A., let’s use it.

    No, she’s an HBDer. Here she is on CNN a few years ago:

    COULTER: Because massive socialism has never worked. I mean, Argentina tried it. Japan tried it. They have higher I.Q.s than we do. You can’t borrow a trillion dollars. We don’t have a trillion dollars. You know what that means, Joy?

    Who on earth but an HBDer would bring up IQ in a conversation like that? And here is a more direct quote from one of her books:

    Liberals were afraid of a book that told the truth about IQ because they are godless secularists who do not believe humans are in God’s image. Christians have no fear of hearing facts about genetic differences in IQ because we don’t think humans are special because they are smart.

    https://jewamongyou.wordpress.com/2012/09/25/ann-coulters-race-realism/

  2. Hepp says:

    At the beginning there, Ramos just come across as dumb. She keeps telling him why she believes there are more than 11 million illegals, and he just keeps saying no, that’s wrong and citing the census like it’s gospel. No engagement with the argument at all, just the worst appeal to authority ever. How embarrassing, what a dumb guy.

    • Replies: @Ronald Thomas West
  3. Dave Pinsen says: • Website

    Someone posted videos of the entire interview and Q&A, apparently recorded off their TV with their cell phone:

    Ann really was in her typical, fine form.

  4. Priss Factor [AKA "The Priss Factory"] says:

    “In fact, my impression is that Ann, who is a creationist.”

    She is an intelligent-design-ist.

    She believes in an evolution with ‘purpose’.

  5. @Hepp

    I’ve been remiss, not to have written a satire of Ann Coulter. But she is such a skank political caricature, it’d not be difficult to find a real life parody, in fact I just found one:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/man-died-after-having-sex-5451965

    ^

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    , @Dave
  6. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    So Ann is playing the cultural superiority card because Ramos is here and Ann is did not immigrate to Mexico. But at some point in her family line someone fled Europe to come to America just like Ramos did.

    So how does that make her culture superior? If she is talking about the white culture that can be found in America, good luck with that one as it barely exists anymore except for some generic collection of white traditions like a Christless Christmas and Starbucks.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @pyrrhus
  7. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    If the flood of immigrants were like Jorge Ramos I’d feel a lot better. He’s Anderson Cooper with an accent and without the giggles. I’ll take ten million Jorge Ramoses over a 100k Somalis or Sudanese.

  8. Avery says:
    @Anonymous

    {“So Ann is playing the cultural superiority card because Ramos is here and Ann is did not immigrate to Mexico. But at some point in her family line someone fled Europe to come to America just like Ramos did.”}

    You simply cannot deny there are cultural differences in ethnicity, which result in the given country reflecting it. There is a group dynamic.
    You can call it ‘superior’ or ‘inferior’ or any other adjective you wish.
    But you cannot deny reality.

    North America was invaded/settled by Anglo-Saxons.
    Mexico was invaded/settled by mostly Spaniards (but far fewer in number than North America.)
    Mexico has much natural wealth.
    Mexicans I encounter in California are hard working, good people.
    They should be enjoying a similar standard of living as US.
    But they are not: why ?

    There are 5 countries in this world established by what Churchill called “English speaking peoples” : England, US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.
    All are orderly, well run countries whose populations enjoy a high standard of living.
    It is no accident.
    And it is not just a European thing.

    Japanese and, say Vietnamese are both Asian peoples.
    Yet is there any doubt that Japan is a much better run country and its people enjoy a higher standard of living.
    Same with Germany and, say Italy.
    Both are Europeans.
    But clearly Germany stands head and shoulders above Italy.

    I don’t know how or why those differences between various peoples of the world took root, but they are there.
    Of course it does not mean that an individual from a give culture cannot excel, given the right environment and opportunity in another culture, and adopts the “ways & means” of that culture.

    But we cannot deny that certain cultures do better in this world than others.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  9. vinteuil says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    Mr. West: in polite company, it is generally thought to be in very poor taste to answer a woman’s arguments not with a reasoned rebuttal but with an attack on her appearance.

    • Replies: @Ronald Thomas West
  10. Realist says:
    @Hepp

    Yes, Ann is a thumper.

  11. @vinteuil

    Ann Coulter’s bigoted hate and polite company are a contradiction in terms.

    • Replies: @Basil
    , @vinteuil
  12. Basil says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    Except it’s not “bigoted hate”. Fine to disagree, but don’t tar others with your own intolerance of different opinions.

    • Replies: @Ronald Thomas West
  13. pyrrhus says:
    @Anonymous

    If you can’t figure out why American culture is superior to Mexican culture, which has created nothing but low IQ border crashers……in any event, the rest of the world has figured it out–which is the problem. As Ann points out, they’re coming here…

    • Replies: @anonymous
  14. EriK says:

    Derb putting a fine point on it:
    “Put it another way: You couldn’t pay me enough to support these scum.”

  15. I have to put Coulter in a category with Gavin Mcinnes: overall, I agree, but occassionally she puts foot in mouth or makes bad arguments. Plus, almost always, she fires up the opposition. So, it’s not clear whether she is a net gain or loss for our side.

  16. @Basil

    it’s not “bigoted hate”

    Let’s see. An evangelist tells you you’re ‘born dirty (in ‘sin’) and the only way out of an eternal bath in napalm or white phosphorous (the choice of our Christian elites for less ‘exceptional’ nations) is to be ‘saved’ followed on with a ritual communion that is quite clearly cannibalism (consuming the ‘body of Christ’) … now, if that isn’t grotesque enough to start, Coulter has in the past stated she is a ‘new Jew’ in a theological context condemning everyone that rejects this ‘god’s chosen’ ‘elite’ to Hell.

    Well, you’re absolutely correct I’m intolerant of anyone of similar opinions. Here’s my take on Coulter’s ‘sister in the lord’ Michele Bachmann:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2013/05/24/the-michelle-bachmann-archetype/

    The very idea we’re in discussions that take these sort of personalities seriously, indicates how entire societies can succumb to sickness or insanity (recalling the Nazis were a staunch ‘Christian’ society, also Mussolini’s Italy, Franco’s Spain, Pinochet’s Chile, Videlas’ Argentina)

    • Replies: @Basil
    , @map
    , @Asher
    , @Occhju
  17. She was great, overall, but it was embarrassing to hear her mention “2.1 trillion people” (in the first video).

  18. @Hepp

    Christians have no fear of hearing facts about genetic differences in IQ because we don’t think humans are special because they are smart.

    It’s nice to see someone taking a broader perspective. Comparing LeBron James against Paul Krugman, I’ll bet most people wouldn’t think of Krugman as the superior being.

  19. Dave says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    This “rebuttal” coming from a man who describes himself as a “white indian”, and who believes his apprenticeship with some native raconteurs gives him the ability to judge the rest of us unenlightened crackers. Your obvious self loathing and ridiculous attempt to pedestalize American Indians undermines whatever moral authority you’re trying to reflect by disparaging Ann.
    Disagreeing with her is fine, and I have my issues with some of her presentation, but you cannot counter any of the facts that were presented in the interview. 1 out of every 5 native Mexicans is currently living in the U.S.
    Mexico gets to offload a fifth of it’s entire population, and receive billions back in the form of remittances while we carry the load, and if anyone complains in the least they get lectured about racism and xenophobia and white privilege.
    You’re entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. When Mexico opens her border and allows a fifth of the population of any neighboring country to settle there then we can discuss the immigration issue in earnest.

    • Replies: @Ronald Thomas West
  20. @Dave

    “gives him the ability to judge the rest of us unenlightened crackers”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_Museum

    ‘unenlightened crackers’ being key … the Blackfoot story of ‘Mudman’ is far and away more intelligent –

    • Replies: @Dave
  21. Dave says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    I’m not a creationist, and neither are most of the commenters and columnists on this site, or any other alt-right site I’ve ever seen.
    And if you would prefer to live in Mexico, then do us all a favor and contact the consulate and get your papers in order. There are also plenty of Mayan and Aztec “shamans” who will be willing to take some of your cash in return for enlightenment.

  22. vinteuil says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    Mr West: if you want to become a clever & interesting troll, instead of a stupid & boring troll, you really need to come up with a new schtick.

    Believe me – nobody here who clicks through to your website ever makes it past the first paragraph or two before rolling their eyes and moving on.

    It’s just all so dull.

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
  23. Lara says:

    That hug request was so passive aggressive. Ann saw through it right away.

  24. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Avery

    Yes. There are cultural differences that can be found throughout different cultures. Mexico for one, has never tried to invade the world or to try to colonize it through derivitives.

    How many bases does the rest of the world have in foreign countries, vs how many does America, Canada, UK, New Zealand, and Australia?

    Before you go on about who’s culture is superior, how about thinking about how these Anglo countries got so wealthy in the first place. Canada, US, New Zealand, Australia stole land from native people. America had slavery and to this day America and Britain practice colonialism through forcing other countries to buy it’s worthless debt.

    The truth is the world would be a much better place with less ghetto Anglo culture. Maybe the Anglos here could learn from the Chinese, the Hindus, and the Persians. All people who have stood the test of time. Anglo culture? Already dead.

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @map
    , @KenH
    , @Kat Grey
  25. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @pyrrhus

    @peter connor

    You do realize that not every white person who immigrated to America is a high iq Ashkenazi Jew right? Irish people for instance actually have a lower iq than Mexicans as stated by unz himself. Let’s toss out the Irishmen and their inferior drunken culture!

  26. Avery says:
    @anonymous

    First, we need to agree what the definition of “better” is.
    My definition in this context is the Western view: technological advancement, material wealth, higher life expectancy, lower child mortality, more rational law, etc…..
    I accept that in many non-technological societies, people may value things other than those valued in Western societies.
    Such as: stress-free life, closeness of family, growing your own food, etc…..
    But given that residents of Mexico and many South American countries go trough Hell just to get into USA, we have to agree that at least a healthy percentage of inhabitants of South America do not share your view that things would be better if Anglo-Saxons had not invaded/settled in those countries.

    I already accepted that Europeans invaded the “new” world in my previous post.
    There is no question that the world of Native Americans in North America turned upside down with the arrival of Europeans.
    But would life have been better for Native Americans if Europeans had not settled here ?
    I do not know.

    What I know is that long before Europeans showed up, Azteks, for example, were practicing human sacrifice and cannibalism. Invasions and massacres were known by indigenous long before Europeans showed up.
    There are cannibal tribes in the world, today, where no European has set foot.
    The North American native peoples invaded the territories of other Native peoples and took slaves. Contrary to popular myth, it was no paradise.

    Asian nations invaded their neighbors.
    The Golden Horde of Mongols subjugated Russia for 300 years.
    Mongol warriors reached well into Western Europe.
    Japan invaded most of Asia and their conquests were anything but benign: to wit, the Rape of Nanking.

    As to England, US, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand:
    I know people from all over the world are waiting in line to get into any one of those countries.
    I don’t know of any Americans or Europeans who are waiting in line to get into India, for example.
    People are risking life in overcrowded boats to reach Europe and seek asylum there.
    Yes, Europeans have done a lot of bad things.
    But is that all you see ? Nothing good ?

    America has done a lot of bad things too: no doubt about it; I have written about that in other threads.
    But in my ledger, America and Americans have done far more good than bad in this world and for the people of this world.
    To wit, Japan attacked US first (…after having invaded China, Korea, etc and massacring locals with abandon).
    US could have turned Japan to a wasteland if it wanted to.
    But US (American taxpayers) helped Japan to stand on its feet.
    American consumers helped Japanese people attain their high standard of living.
    Same with South Korea: South Koreans are smart, hard working people.
    But if not for the open markets provided by US and American consumers, SK would be decades behind the curve.

    And a lot of the bad that was done by US in recent years I do not consider American at all: look up Leo Strauss. Sadly, Americans allowed an Old World virus to infect this country. And it is spreading unchecked.
    Just my humble opinion (….as an immigrant from the old world).

    “It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliance with any portion of the foreign world”: George Washington.
    “Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations-entangling alliances with none.”: Thomas Jefferson.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @Anonymous
  27. Pipjoint says: • Website

    Ann knows how to sell books, and how to say what needs to be said. Not being invited on the current networks, as she once was, she appears with Ramos. And makes Drudge for days. Her latest book will be another blockbuster, financially. Good for her!

    What is really on display is the coming great divide between a dwindling minority and a growing majority.If folks like Ann ever wake up to the useless and dangerous nature of our fully-corrupted government and political system, they would be great additions to the true causes of liberty. Alas, she still clings to the election booth, but at least does so with ample criticism.

    The only answer to this problem is balkanization. But I don’t think it is the hispanic wave that will be the real issue. Her points well made, we are inheriting the worst of Mexico. And it will empower the big government currently in place, politically. Culturally, Mexicans are not our greatest threat. They still possess positive traits long beaten out of the black population. The divide will be between blacks and whites/Mexicans.

    We will be a heavily hispanic nation. The demographics tell the picture. We better get used to it and adapt. Again, the greater threat is the black urban population, immediately. The longer-term threat is the welfare and warfare state, emboldened by an increase in their grip over the entire nation through entitlements.

  28. Dennis Dale says: • Website
    @vinteuil

    It really is lame material, isn’t it? Young people: master your craft, then go out and sell (or troll) your wares. And should you fail to master your chosen craft, well, accept it and move on; let it be a slogan: Don’t Be A Ronald.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
  29. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Avery

    Like I said, culture is subjective. That people there want to immigrate to the west doesn’t really prove anything. A thousand years ago China, India, Persia may have been better places to immigrate to, while the west was backwards. A lot of the problems these places have are due to colonialism from the west and forcing these countries to buy bad western debt.

    And I can guarantee you no one from S.America is glad the west invaded, raped, and slaughtered in mass the natives. Are you ridiculous? We wiped out their entire civilization. Of course they would be better if we never invaded there, they would still exist.

    The asian nations fought amongst themselves, as all peoples tend to do. But they did not try to conquer the world. The mongols are a nomadic tribe with middle eastern characteristics that terrorized Asia.

  30. Like hippy drugdealers, hugs are a measure of authenticity for open-borders advocates. http://www.newyorkace.net/ann-coulter-the-dreamy-dreamer-the-hug-that-never-was/

  31. map says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    “The very idea we’re in discussions that take these sort of personalities seriously, indicates how entire societies can succumb to sickness or insanity (recalling the Nazis were a staunch ‘Christian’ society, also Mussolini’s Italy, Franco’s Spain, Pinochet’s Chile, Videlas’ Argentina)”

    The greatest mistake the Christians ever made was starting to argue with Heretics instead of simply burning them at the stake.

    Heretic-burnings set the stage for high Christian culture. It protected the West from the internal enemy, making the West strong and defensible against outside empires.

    One day, we will have the good sense to start burning heretics at the stake again.

  32. map says:
    @anonymous

    “Before you go on about who’s culture is superior, how about thinking about how these Anglo countries got so wealthy in the first place.”

    What an idiot.

    They were already wealthy and technologically advanced, or do you think that the Anglosphere just had ship-building, ocean navigation, guns and steel dropped in their laps? It was a foregone conclusion that primitive savages would be conquered by a technologically superior people.

    No, the liberal somehow believes that Anglos and Europeans simply moved into the caves and TeePees of the primitives, instead of doing what they really did: transplant a European culture in a new land. They did it themselves. A new tribe moved in and, due to the superiority of their technology, displaced the weaker tribes.

    But the primitive tribes did have one advantage: there were no liberals among them, no fifth column demanding open borders. They lost, but not due to a lack of trying.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  33. vinteuil says:
    @Dennis Dale

    DD – yes, exactly. Lame is the word.

    The gold standard for trolls on this site is, of course, Whiskey. Totally out of his mind and beyond the reach of reason, but endlessly amusing.

    Truth runs a distant second, in both productivity and entertainment value, but he’s always brief, if not always witty.

    And then there’s Leftist Conservative, who’s just as prolix as Whiskey, and just as single-minded, but not quite as hilariously unhinged.

    I think Mr West could learn a lot by studying the collected works of these three exemplars of his fach.

    • Replies: @Sunbeam
  34. Asher says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    We can add “bigot” and “hate” to the list of the words that are now nothing more than meaningless gibberish.

  35. Y’all want trolls, have a looky here:

    http://ronaldthomaswest.com/2014/04/18/military-sock-puppets-nsa-trolls-cia-shills/

    Insofar as froot-loops like Coulter & creationists, it’s pretty clear where their inspirations derive from:

    ^ It’s less than 3 minutes of education and you the portrait of what appears to be a very straight Christian band at the end. And glad I could get under several of your reptile skins –

    • Replies: @Dave
  36. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @map

    White people have gone through cycles where they were technologically advanced and cycles where they were not. I am not convinced that being technologically advanced is something that is characteristically white. This is similar to China, Iran, India as these countries to had periods where their cultures waxed and waned. So no, white culture is not intrinsicly superior.

    And angry, the point being is that whites have always used colonialism and exploitation as a means to achieve economic success. Before they came to the Americas, whites enslaved blacks, middle easterners and other whites. White people practiced colonialism and extracted wealth from neighboring regions.

    So you cannot just loom at material things as a means to judge a culture. Dubai for instance is extremely rich, but the culture underlying it is not all that impressive. They just had a lot of oil money.

  37. Avery says:

    Your selective recall of history and assigning every evil in the world to ‘whites’ (I assume you mean Europeans ? Or as you wrote above “The truth is the world would be a much better place with less ghetto Anglo culture. “) is disproved by facts:

    – Heard of the Mongol (not white) empire ? The largest known empire in the history of the world. Lasted about 400 years. What do you think they did to the countries they invaded and subjugated ? Surely they did not practice massacres, colonialism and did not extract wealth from the local populations (e.g. Russians), right ?
    – During WW2 Japanese (not white) invaded and occupied several Asian countries: China, Korea, Philippines, etc. The conquered lands were looted, the natural wealth extracted and sent to Japan to support the Imperial Japanese expansion. Guess who defeated the Japanese and threw them out of those countries (yep, whites). btw: have you heard of so-called “comfort women’ ? A euphemism invented by vile Japanese (not white) invaders for enslaved young Korean, Chinese, and Filipina women, many underage girls: that’s right, Japanese (not white) enslaved and sexually exploited 100s of 1000s of (not white) females.
    – Many Native American tribes routinely practiced slavery. Long before whites showed up.

    There are many, many similar examples throughout history and world, but you have convinced yourself of the pure evil that whites apparently are in your worldview, so you have conveniently immunized yourself to facts.

    btw: since the modern technological world was largely created by whites, including the computer and related technology that gives you the ability to share your views with a wide audience, have you considered turning your back on the white evil and living a more rewarding life away from whites ?
    There was a story recently of a tribe in Amazon which has had no contact with whites or anybody else in the outside world: maybe they will accept you.
    Also many places in the world untouched by those evil whites.
    How about it ?

    • Replies: @Avery
    , @anonymous
  38. Dave says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    Glad you could get under several commenters skins, just like a deer tick. That you now spend so much energy and time here, on multiple threads, says more about your need for validation and self affirmation as some sort of pseudo warrior fighting the good fight than it does about any writer or commenter. Whether one agrees with Derbyshire or Fred Reed, they are certainly vastly more capable as writers and thinkers than you will ever be. You are incapable of countering their arguments factually, therefore you fall back on insinuation and snide contempt, while blatantly attempting to generate clicks for your juvenile site.
    Time to sell some more sweat lodge ceremonies to naive Central Europeans and leave the thinking and reasoning to the adults.

  39. Avery says:
    @Avery

    my above post was in reply to [anonymous says:
    May 31, 2015 at 1:28 am GMT • 100 Words]

  40. Glasses says:

    The funniest moment was when Ann told the Ecuadorean mulatto he’s not black. Ann and all her HBD sycophants need glasses, lol.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  41. MarkinLA says:
    @Glasses

    So, you believe in the one-drop rule? Mighty racist of you.

    • Replies: @Glasses
  42. Occhju says:
    @Ronald Thomas West

    Ann Coulter is a national treasure and you know it…

  43. Glasses says:
    @MarkinLA

    One drop? Haha, you HBD people are not very objective are you. When is half of someone’s ancestry a drop and why is it racist to recognize someone’s SSA ancestry racist? Btw, I did call him a mulatto. Tell you what, we can easily find this guy and have spit into a 23 and me kit. How about a little bet he’s more than a drop and at least a quarter? \$1k

    Put your money where your mouth is. People are who their ancestors are and nothing more or less. Sophists like you change the rules at your convenience. You’re just as bad as the liberal sophists who called mixed race George Zimmerman a white man but Obama a black man. People are either not black enough or too black depending on how it fits the story.

    Oh no! I was called a racist! I plead with you dearly that I am not a racist! (Sarcasm)
    Your empty words can’t hurt or shame any one. Can you even define racism or racist in your own words? I’d tell you to put your glasses on but they’d do you no good considering your cranial rectal inversion.

    Markinla=μ -2σ

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  44. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Avery

    Yeah. You’ve got two whole examples. Good for you.

    The Mongolians have significant middle eastern influence and Japan has always seen itself as a western country of Asia. So go figure they would adopt colonialism.

    I never said that whites are the only practitioners of slavery, just that slavery and colonialism is characteristically white. To give examples of other people doing this doesn’t really mean anything.

    People here love to say that blacks rape and kill at elevated rates compared to others. Arguing that white people, brown people, and yellow people also rape and kill doesn’t mean anything. Yes we know other countries had slaves and practiced colonialism. But the point is that whites have carried it out far more often and to a greater degree than other races.

    • Replies: @Dave
  45. KenH says:
    @anonymous

    True, but Mayheeco is trying to invade America and Canada with their poverty stricken and crime prone surplus population and economically exploit it through the 20+ billion it receives in remittances from both its legal immigrants and illegal alien invaders. This is just a form of unconventional warfare against the USA.

  46. Dave says:
    @anonymous

    You are so completely wrong on every point in your ridiculous rebuttal that responding is almost not worth the effort, and facts certainly won’t get in the way of your blinkered opinions.
    The Mongols had Middle Eastern influences ? Where the hell did you get that ? That observation has no basis in historical fact. You basically just pulled it out of your a** in a lame attempt to respond.
    How exactly is slavery “characteristically white”? That doesn’t even mean anything, it’s just you trying to sound smart and coming off sounding dumb.
    Slavery was universally practiced on all continents in various forms for the entirety of human history. Slavery was, and still is, practiced in Africa on a massive scale. If it wasn’t for whitey suppressing it, it would still be a booming business in sub saharan Africa, as it was during the European slave trade. Slavery is still practiced today in India, and according to various human rights organizations both modern India and Africa account for the vast bulk of slave trading going on today. Again, if it wasn’t for whitey, there would be far larger numbers of slaves. Saudi Arabia only officially outlawed slavery in 1963, at which time the U.N. estimated there were approximately several hundred thousand slaves of African origin living in the country. Of course, the slave trade didn’t end then, as wealthy Arabs are still capable of circumventing international law in order to procure black servants and slaves.
    Meso Americans practiced large scale slavery for centuries before Columbus, and native North Americans practiced it on a much smaller scale, but nonetheless it was universally regarded as a legitimate tactic to use against enemies.
    Whites carried out slavery far more often ? Based on what metric ? Whites ended slavery in all the lands under their control, a feat never before attempted or even rationalized in all of human history.
    Were the hated white race to just mind it’s own business, slavery would once again become the global standard it always was, particularly in Asia and Africa, and vast swathes of the muslim world. Muslims have never explicitly rejected slavery, and as I said, wealthy muslims still engage in it on a small scale, thus will have no problem ramping up the numbers when whitey’s reign of evil comes to an end.
    Progressives, living in the comfort and security of the evil West and using the technologies invented by wicked white men, and shared with everyone, love to disparage the societies they live in and imagine the glorious utopia a world without whites will be. Keep dreaming.
    The end of the West will mean the end of the standards that suppress slavery. human societies on every continent will once again be free to colonize and oppress to their hearts content, as they always did, once whitey is gone.

    • Replies: @Romanian
  47. MarkinLA says:
    @Glasses

    Hey moron it was you who asserted a mulatto had to be considered black.

    • Replies: @Glasses
  48. Glasses says:
    @MarkinLA

    I said it was funny he was told he was not black when he clearly appears to be significantly SSA. So it’s disingenuous to say he is not black. A mulatto by my estimation. Therefor also part caucasoid. You insinuated he had but one drop of SSA.

    Keep replying and revealing your intellect. I responded with valid reasoning and sound facts and finished with what I conclude you perceive as ad hominem but was merely an inference of your intellect based on your demonstrated reasoning. You on the other hand confirm my inference by replying with a juvinile personal attack.

    My wager still stands. I assume your European by ancestry. Display some courage, honor and accept the challenge or have Europeans really lost their glory. Time to change your handle to markButtHurtInLA. Wtf did Peleus and Charlemagne fight for if your the end result of western civ.

    • Replies: @Glasses
    , @MarkinLA
  49. Kat Grey says:
    @anonymous

    Mexico is a former colony of Spain. Avery, are you suggesting that Spain never had an empire, wasn’t a major player in the Trans-Atlantic slave trade and never robbed native people? Not even a tiny piece of silver or gold? I wonder Avery, if you’ve ever stopped to wonder why there are so few indigenous people in the West Indies? Under which flag did Columbus sail? Which kingdom financed him? Please won’t somebody help me get up from the floor! I was laughing so hard I fell off my chair.

  50. Sunbeam says:
    @vinteuil

    “The gold standard for trolls on this site is, of course, Whiskey. Totally out of his mind and beyond the reach of reason, but endlessly amusing.”

    It’s not trolling if you really believe it.

    Whiskey… is something that defies categorization. He is some kind of thing unique to himself.

    Not sure how amusing he is, but some of the rest of your statement seems to fit.

    I will say he has said some interesting things at times.

    But whenever he starts talking about Heartiste or sexual politics I zone out and quit reading.

    If in the end he turns out to have been the one who saw the world clearly all along…

    Well it wouldn’t bother me too much if a relatively close by star has a gamma ray burst and sterilizes this planet.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  51. Chrisalus says:

    You all know she reads this column, right?

    • Replies: @SecretaryNS
  52. @Chrisalus

    Do you think she reads the comments? {smooths down hair, pops in some mint gum}

    • Replies: @Chrisalus
  53. Chrisalus says:
    @SecretaryNS

    Tuck in those t-shirts, boys.

  54. Sean says:

    IMMIGRATION sceptics commonly point to another question mark that seems to hang over Hispanics. Previous immigrant groups typically saw progress with each passing generation, but Hispanic numbers have a habit of stalling or even heading backwards. American-born children of Hispanic immigrants tend to be less healthy than their parents, have higher divorce rates and go to jail more often. Jump from migrants’ children to their grandchildren, and studies have shown academic results slipping in the third generation. Conservatives fret about “downward assimilation”. Academic texts have asked, “Is Becoming an American a Developmental Risk?

    Mexican culture is the best one for Mexicans.

  55. MarkinLA says:
    @Glasses

    With each post it is obvious you have some sort of mental defect. You took time off at your college dorm studying for you women’s or gay and lesbian studies class to come and make some snide remark about how Coulter and other HBD types were stupid for not calling a mulatto a black.

    I made a comment on your latent racism that you presumed all mulattoes are black. You started crying like a baby because you likely attend all the “anti-racist” rallies on campus and consider yourself “progressive” yet believe in the one-drop rule like any member of the KKK (and like so many liberals).

    As for “clearly appears to be black”, the guy himself did not object when Coulter said he wasn’t black. So that would indicate the guy doesn’t consider himself black. Who would know more him or you?

    • Replies: @Glasses
  56. Glasses says:
    @MarkinLA

    I clearly said it was disingenuous to say a mulatto is not black, and not that mulattos are only black. All mulattos by definition part white and black.

    I really was not offended by your calling me a racist. I made that clear from my sarcastic response to you calling me a racist. You still have not defined racism or racist.

    People deny or are ignorant of all sorts of things. Guilty criminals deny their guilt all the time. This doesn’t mean they are in fact not guilty. Others can know us better than we know ourselves. There’s no need to debate. My wage still stands. A DNA test will put all debate to rest.

    Keep replying and revealing your intellect.

  57. When do you plan to release the results of this DNA test? Or is that just something you’re using to pass the buck?

    • Replies: @Glasses
  58. Glasses says:
    @Ozymandias

    I’m not avoiding anything and the wager was my proposition to settle the issue. Read the thread.

    Take the bet. I’ll call Fusion. They will contact the man in question. I think he’d probably agree to it. In fact, Fusion might pick up the idea and make a show of it. Every so often networks do shows on the African ancestry of Latin America. If the man agrees to the test then we settle the question.

    If the money is a hardship on either you or markinla then forget the money. I just want some honest sincere discussion of topics. Let’s settle this for the sake of veracity. I’m just tired of all the sophistry across all political spectrums and I am especially bothered when HBD people are hypocrites. Is race real or not? Mark is arguing at this point that the guy isn’t part black because the man does not identify as such. That sounds like social construct talk. Derb, back me up on this one.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  59. MarkinLA says:
    @Glasses

    The only thing I am arguing is that you made an idiotic statement. The guy in question was trying to create a gotcha moment for Coulter and she ducked it by saying the guy doesn’t get to play the race card because he isn’t black. The guy slinked away. You think that this somehow shows Coulter is stupid for not recognizing the guy as black like you do. Who really cares what you think? I was just bouncing a snide comment back at your stupidity and you got butt-hurt about it.

    Worse yet you continue to post idiotic nonsense about everything. There is no officially recognized HBD position of what percentage of what genes makes you a particular race that I am aware of but I am not that knowledgeable about the field.

    • Replies: @Glasses
  60. Glasses says:
    @MarkinLA

    Never said Ann was stupid. I clearly said disingenuous. Is English not your first language? There is no hbd position? A person’s race is the sum of his ancestry. What’s difficult to understand about that?

    It’s not what I or any one thinks. It’s about being objective. Arguing with reason and facts and leaving out emotions. A person has a specific ancestry regardless of what any one’s opinion about it is.

    Ann shouldn’t have ducked the question. She should directly have said that the U.S. is under no obligation to create a racial utopia.

    You’ve revealed yourself a complete fool. You’re the living embodiment of why Europeans lost this country. You’re excrement to be avoided. Flush, I’m done with you.

  61. @Glasses

    It looked to me like what you were doing was attempting to reframe the argument where all burden of proof was shifted to the other side, thus allowing you to claim victory without actually offering any support for your stance, followed by your usual proclamation of mental superiority.

  62. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Why always this ‘it’s not about race it’s about culture’ business? Sure, culture is important but race is the basic building block. Denying that is denying reality. Saying that publicly is prohibited so one supposes she had to step gingerly to avoid the land mines. Race is probably the single most important factor; always was, always will be and the sooner people get honest about it the better.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  63. Romanian says:
    @Dave

    +10, from a non-Westerner.

  64. MarkinLA says:
    @anonymous

    Do you want to win the battle and stop immigration – especially from the third world or do you demand ideological purity and never win. NOBODY is going to win the immigration debate saying we shouldn’t let these inferior XXXXXs in because YYYYYY.

    The way to win is on economics in general such as wages and the destruction of the middle class and overcrowding of schools. Any talk of deficiencies cannot be about race or the MSM will denounce you as a racist and NOBODY will allow you to speak on the subject ever again.

    Yes, you should, be able to point to statistics that show Mexicans bring Mexico with them but saying it is in their genes won’t gain you anything.

    Do you really not know this are you some SPLC troll looking to get some quote for your next propaganda campaign?

  65. Svigor says:

    Wait, WT Ronald, er, RTW, you’re not one of those kooks from Amren, are you? I don’t mean to say that all Amren posters are freaks, far from it; lots of good people there. But God, there are some freaks. There’s the one who’s always going on about his criminal record – when coherent – who kind of reminds me of RTW. And that Jewish guy with yellow fever and a mendacious/weird streak a mile wide.

  66. Svigor says:

    So Ann is playing the cultural superiority card because Ramos is here and Ann is did not immigrate to Mexico. But at some point in her family line someone fled Europe to come to America just like Ramos did.

    So how does that make her culture superior?

    Because it’s where Ramos wants to be. Because his culture did a poorer job with Mexico than ours did with America.

    If she is talking about the white culture that can be found in America, good luck with that one as it barely exists anymore except for some generic collection of white traditions like a Christless Christmas and Starbucks.

    I guess it doesn’t take much to whup Mexicans. Ramos agrees.

  67. Svigor says:

    Yes. There are cultural differences that can be found throughout different cultures. Mexico for one, has never tried to invade the world or to try to colonize it through derivitives.

    Is there a name for this logical fallacy? Congratulating a person or group for not doing that which they are unable to achieve?

    Except it’s not “bigoted hate”. Fine to disagree, but don’t tar others with your own intolerance of different opinions.

    You address him as if you think he’s playing with a full deck. Nobody with a full deck is both aggressive in his rhetorical style, and proud of a blog like that. I could maybe see some hausfrau with a blog that bad linking to it, with apologies, and coming out of it looking sane. Maybe.

    But, all of this is academic. Just read his comments.

  68. Svigor says:

    I never said that whites are the only practitioners of slavery, just that slavery and colonialism is characteristically white.

    Blacks don’t do much colonizing, relatively speaking, because they’re incapable. Slavery, though, don’t make me laugh; slavery is about as black as an institution can get. Blacks were inveterate slavers long before contact with the white man, they were enthusiastic slave-traders throughout recorded history, and they’re still inveterate slavers, relatively speaking (what with the institution having long since died out in the west, and most civilized countries).

    People here love to say that blacks rape and kill at elevated rates compared to others.

    You mean, point out the truth.

    As for the Mongol plague, calling it “one example” is daft. They killed 7% of the world’s population, and were a scourge on the world for centuries. And gave the world pretty much jack shit. Their evil was only exceeded (in kind, not scale) by the Aztecs.

  69. @Sunbeam

    ““The gold standard for trolls on this site is, of course, Whiskey. Totally out of his mind and beyond the reach of reason, but endlessly amusing.””

    Ah: Unz.com, The place to go for quality trollery.

  70. Yes. There are cultural differences that can be found throughout different cultures. Mexico for one, has never tried to invade the world or to try to colonize it through derivitives.

    As for the Mongol plague, calling it “one example” is daft. They killed 7% of the world’s population, and were a scourge on the world for centuries. And gave the world pretty much jack shit. Their evil was only exceeded (in kind, not scale) by the Aztecs.

    Not sure if Aztecs evil exceeded the Mongol plague…but…the first quote above is certifiably idiotic. Maybe Mexico has not tried to invade the world but, prior to the modern period, the Aztecs and all of the surrounding dozens of tribes fought each other and allied with each other against others for hundreds of years. This is what led to voluminous levels of blood cascading down the ceremonial primitive pyramids as thousands of captured heads were chopped off in euphoric spasms of celebration following successful military campaigns.

    Let’s be real here, folks.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
  71. MarkinLA says:
    @leper messiah

    Let’s be real here, folks.

    Lots of people who hate whites just like to make shit up – you’ll get used to it.

  72. Ken Smith says: • Website

    As to the intelligence of Mexicans, is it possible that the natives were dumbed-down by the arrival of Spaniards? The building of the pyramids would have required some bright folks with expert knowledge and experience in engineering, architecture, labor organization, and construction was done without power tools.

    Reading the above comments reminded me of an article in The London Review of Books in 1986, reviewing The Old Gringo by Carlos Fuentes. Review by John Sutherland.

    As Fuentes puts it in the prelude to The Old Gringo, the very dust of Mexico is ‘memorious’: the allusion to Borges’s Funes the Memorious, the man condemned to forget nothing, is surely deliberate. By contrast, the United States is ‘a land without memory’. Put genetically, contemporary Mexico has a blood connection with the 1913 Revolution, and with the Conquistadores. Contemporary America has no such vital connection with its Civil War, or with its Puritan foundation. Fuentes suggests that the Americans have lost their past by virtue of ancestral sexual timidity. The conquerors of America (unlike those of Mexico) killed, but they did not sufficiently rape. The result was genocide, not miscegenation. As the American hero of The Old Gringo puts it: ‘we killed our Redskins and never had the courage to fornicate with the squaws and at least create a half-breed nation. We are caught in the business of forever killing people whose skin is of a different colour. Mexico is the proof of what we could have been.’ If the Mexican is doomed for ever to remember his bloody past, the North American is doomed for ever unconsciously to repeat his, by insatiable imperialism.

  73. lol, Ann Coulter is a right wing propagandist, and knows how to play her base, but she is a funny one too. That “hug” seemed a patent setup- she avoided it adroitly.

  74. @Hepp

    Uh, because nation IQ is relevant

  75. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Avery

    Somehow I get the impression that the average person knows very little about Latin America which was also conquered and settled by Europeans who brought over many African salves as well. Did people think the Spanish language originated with the Aztec?

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