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There’s been a new public fracturing of the intellectual left, typified by an essay last week from Nathan J Robinson, editor of the small, independent, socialist magazine Current Affairs, accusing Glenn Greenwald and Matt Taibbi of bolstering the right’s arguments. He is the more reasonable face of what seems to be a new industry arguing that Greenwald is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, setting the right’s agenda for it.
Under the title “How to end up serving the right”, Robinson claims that Greenwald and Taibbi, once his intellectual heroes, are – inadvertently or otherwise – shoring up the right’s positions and weakening the left. He accuses them of reckless indifference to the consequences of criticising a “liberal” establishment and making common cause with the right’s similar agenda. Both writers, argues Robinson, have ignored the fact that the right wields the greatest power in our societies.
This appears to be a continuation of a fight Robinson picked last year with Krystal Ball, the leftwing, former co-host of a popular online politics show called The Rising. Robinson attacked her for sharing her platform with the conservative pundit Saagar Enjeti. Ball and Enjeti have since struck out on their own, recently launching a show called Breaking Points.
Notably, Greenwald invited Robinson on to his own YouTube channel to discuss these criticisms of Ball when Robinson first made them. In my opinion, Robinson emerged from that exchange looking more than a little bruised.
As with his clash with Ball, there are problems with Robinson’s fuzzy political definitions.
Somewhat ludicrously in his earlier tussle, he lumped together Enjeti, a thoughtful rightwing populist, with figures like Donald Trump and Brazil’s Jair Bolsonaro, both of them narcissists and authoritarians (of varying degrees of competence) that have donned the garb of populism, as authoritarians tend to do.
Similarly, Robinson’s current disagreements with Greenwald and Taibbi stem in part from a vague formulation – one he seems partially to concede – of what constitutes the “left”. Greenwald has always struck me more as a progressive libertarian than a clearcut socialist like Robinson. Differences of political emphasis and priorities are inevitable. They are also healthy.
And much of Robinson’s essay is dedicated to cherrypicking a handful tweets from Greenwald and Taibbi to make his case. Greenwald, in particular, is a prolific tweeter. And given the combative and polarising arena of Twitter, it would be quite astonishing had he not occasionally advanced his arguments without the nuance demanded by Robinson.
Overall, Robinson’s case against both Greenwald and Taibbi is far less persuasive than he appears to imagine.
Stifling coverage
But the reason I think it worth examining his essay is because it demonstrates a more fundamental split on what – for the sake of convenience – I shall treat as a broader intellectual left that includes Robinson, Greenwald and Taibbi.
Robinson tries to prop up his argument that Greenwald, in particular, is betraying the left and legitimising the right with an argument from authority, citing some of the left’s biggest icons.
Two, Naomi Klein and Jeremy Scahill, are former journalist colleagues of Greenwald’s at the Intercept, the billionaire-financed online news publication that he co-founded and eventually split from after it broke an editorial promise not to censor his articles.
Greenwald fell out with the editors in spectacularly public fashion late last year after they stifled his attempts to write about the way Silicon Valley and liberal corporate media outlets – not unlike the Intercept – were colluding to stifle negative coverage of Joe Biden in the run-up to the presidential election, in a desperate bid to ensure he beat Trump.
Greenwald’s public statements about his reasons for leaving the Intercept exposed what were effectively institutional failings there – and implicated those like Scahill and Klein who had actively or passively colluded in the editorial censorship of its co-founder. Klein and Scahill are hardly dispassionate commentators on Greenwald when they accuse him of “losing the plot” and “promoting smears”. They have skin in the game.
But Robinson may think his trump (sic) card is an even bigger left icon, Noam Chomsky, who is quoted saying of Greenwald: “He’s a friend, has done wonderful things, I don’t understand what is happening now… I hope it will pass.”
The problem with this way of presenting Greenwald is that the tables can be easily turned. Over the past few years, my feeds – and I am sure others’ – have been filled with followers asking versions of “What happened to Chomsky?” or “What happened to Amy Goodman and Democracy Now?”
The answer to these very reductive questions – what happened to Greenwald and what happened to Chomsky – is the same. Trump happened. And their different responses are illustrative of the way the left polarised during the Trump presidency and how it continues to divide in the post-Trump era.
Authoritarian thinking
Robinson treats the Trump factor – what we might term Post-Traumatic Trump Disorder – as though it is irrelevant to his analysis of Greenwald and Taibbi. And yet it lies at the heart of the current tensions on the left. In its simplest terms, the split boils down to the question of how dangerous Trump really was and is, and what that means for the left in terms of its political responses.
Unlike Robinson, I don’t think it is helpful to personalise this. Instead, we should try to understand what has happened to left politics more generally in the Trump and post-Trump era.
Parts of the left joined liberals in becoming fixated on Trump as a uniquely evil and dangerous presence in US politics. Robinson notes that Trump posed an especial and immediate threat to our species’ survival through his denial of climate change, and on these grounds alone every effort had to be made to remove him.
Others on the left recoil from this approach. They warn that, by fixating on Trump, elements of the left have drifted into worryingly authoritarian ways of thinking – sometimes openly, more often implicitly – as a bulwark against the return of Trump or anyone like him.
The apotheosis of such tendencies was the obsession, shared alike by liberals and some on the left, with Russiagate. This supposed scandal highlighted in stark fashion the extreme dangers of focusing on a single figure, in Trump, rather than addressing the wider, corrupt political structures that produced him.
It was not just the massive waste of time and energy that went into trying to prove the unprovable claims of Trump’s collusion with the Kremlin – resources that would have been far better invested in addressing Trump’s real crimes, which were being committed out in the open.
It was that the politically tribal Trump-Russia narrative engulfed and subverted a meaningful politics of resistance. It snared those like Wikileaks founder Julian Assange who had been trying to break open the black box of western politics. It fortified the US security services after they had been exposed by Edward Snowden’s revelations as secretly and illegally conducting mass spying on the public’s communications. It breathed a dangerous credibility into the corrupt Democratic party machine after its embarrassment over engineering Hillary Clinton’s presidential candidacy. And it revived the fortunes of an increasingly discredited liberal media that quickly won large ratings by promoting fabulists like Rachel Maddow.
Those on the left who tried to challenge Russiagate in order to focus on real political issues were stigmatised as Putin’s puppets, their arguments were labelled “fake news”, and they were gradually algorithmed into social media purdah.
Under the Russiagate banner, parts of the left were soon rallying, however reluctantly, behind corporate champions of the planet-destroying status quo.
But it was even worse than that. The fixation on the obviously hollow Russiagate narrative by the Democratic party, the corporate media, Silicon Valley, and the US intelligence agencies served to prove to wide swaths of conservative America that Trump was right when he berated a “liberal” establishment for being invested only in its own self-preservation and not caring about ordinary Americans.
Russiagate did not just divide the left, it dramatically strengthened the right.
Free speech dangers
Robinson knows all this, at least intellectually, but perhaps because Trump looms so large in his thinking he does not weigh the significance in the same terms as Greenwald and Taibbi.
The problem with characterising Trump as a supremely evil figure is that all sorts of authoritarian political conclusions flow from that characterisation – precisely the political conclusions we have seen parts of the left adopting. Robinson may not expressly share these conclusions but, unlike Greenwald and Taibbi, he has largely ignored or downplayed the threat they present.
If Trump poses a unique danger to democracy, then to avoid any recurrence:
- We are obligated to rally uncritically, or at least very much less critically, behind whoever was selected to be his opponent. Following Trump’s defeat, we are dutybound to restrain our criticisms of the winner, Joe Biden, however poor his performance, in case it opens the door to Trump, or someone like Trump, standing for the presidency in four years’ time.
- We must curb free speech and limit the free-for-all of social media in case it contributed to the original surge of support for Trump, or created the more febrile political environment in which Trump flourished.
- We must eradicate all signs of populism, whether on the right or the left, because we cannot be sure that in a battle of populisms the left will defeat the right, or that leftwing populism cannot be easily flipped into rightwing populism.
- And most importantly, we must learn to distrust “the masses” – those who elected Trump – because they have demonstrated that they are too easily swayed by emotion, prejudice and charisma. Instead, we must think in more traditional liberal terms, of rule by technocrats and “experts” who can be trusted to run our societies largely in secret but provide a stability that should keep any Trumps out of power.
Greenwald and Taibbi have been focusing precisely on this kind of political fallout from the Trump presidency. And it looks suspiciously like this, as much as anything else, is what is antagonising Robinson and others.
Greenwald’s own experiences at the Intercept underline his concerns. It was not just that Greenwald was forced out over his efforts late last year to talk about the documents found on Hunter Biden’s laptop and the questions they raised about his father, the man who was about to become US president. It was that the Intercept stopped Greenwald from talking about how the entire liberal corporate media and all of Silicon Valley were actively conspiring to crush any attempt to talk about those documents and their significance – and not on the basis of whether they were genuine or not.
Greenwald walked away from what amounted to a very well-paid sinecure at the Intercept to highlight this all-out assault on democratic discourse and the election process – an assault whose purpose was not the search for truth but to prevent any danger of Trump being re-elected. By contrast, in a tweet thread that has not aged well, Robinson along with many others quibbled about the specifics of Greenwald’s case and whether it amounted to censorship, very much ignoring the wood for the trees.
Now that @ggreenwald's Biden article has been published, the relevant question for evaluating whether the Intercept was justified in refusing to publish it is: are its claims false/insufficiently supported? How did it fall short of publication standards? https://t.co/5CwJT72XpC
— Nathan J Robinson (@NathanJRobinson) October 29, 2020
Greenwald and Taibbi talk so much about the role of the traditional media and Silicon Valley because they understand that the media’s professed liberalism – claims to be protecting the rights of women, ethnic minorities and the trans community – is a very effective way of prettifying corporate authoritarianism, an authoritarianism the left claims to be fighting but has readily endorsed once it has been given a liberal makeover.
It is not that the “liberal” establishment – the corporate media, Silicon Valley, the intelligence services – is actually liberal. It is that liberals have come increasingly to identify with that establishment as sharing their values.
For this reason, Robinson obscures the real nature of the divide on the left when he discusses the power of the Supreme Court. He criticises Greenwald and Taibbi for ignoring the fact that the right exercises absolute power through its packing of the court with rightwing judges. He accuses them of instead unfairly emphasising the power exercised by this “liberal” establishment.
But despite Robinson’s claims, the Supreme Court very obviously doesn’t wield “all the power”, even with its veto over legislation and actions of the administration. Because an even greater power is invested in those institutions that can control the public’s ability to access and interpret information; to find out what is being done in the shadows; and to make choices based on that information, including about who should represent them.
Information control and narrative management are the deepest forms of power because they shape our ability to think critically, to resist propaganda, to engage in dialogue and to forge alliances that might turn the tide against a profoundly corrupt establishment that includes both the Supreme Court and Silicon Valley. Robinson ignores this point in his essay, even though it is fundamental to assessing “What happened to Greenwald and Taibbi?”. A commitment to keeping channels of information open and ensuring dialogue continues, even in the post-Trump era, is what happened to them.
Hard drives smashed
The crux of Robinson’s argument is that Greenwald and Taibbi have made a pact with the devil, gradually chaining their more progressive credentials to a Trumpian rightwing populism to defeat the “liberal” establishment. That, Robinson suggests, will only strengthen and embolden the right, and ensure the return of a Trump.
The evidence Robinson and others adduce for Greenwald’s betrayal, in particular, are his now regular appearances on Tucker Carlson’s Fox News show, where Greenwald and Carlson often find common ground against the authoritarian excesses of that same “liberal” establishment.
That should not surprise us. Carlson and the right have an interest in the break-up of Silicon Valley’s tech monopolies that favour a Democratic Party authoritarianism over their own Republican Party authoritarianism. Greenwald has an interest in the break-up of Silicon Valley’s tech monopolies too but for a very different reason: because he is against monopolies designed to keep the public propagandised and manipulated.
Opposing them both is an authoritarian “liberal” establishment – the Democratic party, traditional corporate media, Silicon Valley, the intelligence services – that have every interest in perpetuating their control over the tech monopolies.
Robinson contrasts Greenwald’s behaviour to his own clean hands as the editor of the small socialist magazine, Current Affairs.
But we should note that Robinson has compromised himself far more than he cares to admit. For several years he used the liberal corporate outlet of the Guardian as a platform from which to present a watered-down version of his own socialist politics. To do so, he had to ignore the paper’s appalling record of warmongering abroad and of subverting socialists like Jeremy Corbyn at home.
Robinson finally came unstuck when a Guardian editor effectively fired him for writing a satirical tweet about the huge sums of aid given by the US to Israel each year to kill and maim Palestinians under occupation and destroy their infrastructure.
My latest: In sacking a columnist over a tweet criticising US military aid to Israel, the Guardian wasn't stopping 'antisemitism'. It was policing speech to stop the left drawing attention to the continuing colonial nature of western societies https://t.co/E2gORnn5x8
— Jonathan Cook (@Jonathan_K_Cook) February 11, 2021
One can debate whether it is wise for the left to use essentially hostile corporate platforms – liberal or conservative – to advance its arguments. But that is not the debate Robinson is trying to provoke. And for obvious reasons: because in piggybacking on the Guardian, Robinson did what Greenwald has done in piggybacking on Tucker Carlson. Both have used the reach of a larger corporate outlet to build their audience and expand the number of people exposed to their more progressive ideas.
There is an apparent difference, though. In Robinson’s case, he has admitted with impressive frankness that he would have been willing to self-censor on Israel had he been told by the Guardian beforehand that speaking out was likely to cost him his job. That sets his own position apart from Greenwald, who decided to walk from the Intercept rather than allow his work to be censored.
Nonetheless, it is far from clear, as Robinson assumes, that liberal corporate outlets are a safer bet for the left to ally with than rightwing corporate outlets.
Greenwald, remember, was eased out of the “liberal” Guardian many years before Robinson’s sacking after he brought the paper the glory associated with the Snowden revelations while also incurring the intelligence services’ wrath. Those revelations exposed the dark underbelly of the US national security state under the “liberal” presidency of Barack Obama, not Trump. And years later, Greenwald was again pushed out, this time from the supposedly even more “liberal” Intercept as part of its efforts to protect Biden, Obama’s Democratic party successor.
Greenwald wasn’t dispatched from these publications for being too rightwing. Tensions escalated at the Guardian over the security service backlash to Greenwald’s unwavering commitment to free speech and transparency – just as the Guardian earlier fell out with Assange faced with the security services’ retaliation for Wikileaks’ exposure of western war crimes.
The Guardian’s own commitment to transparency was surrendered with its agreement to carry out the UK security services’ demand that it smash hard drives packed with Snowden’s secrets. The destruction of those files may have been largely symbolic (there were copies in the possession of the New York Times) but the message it sent to the left and to the UK intelligence agencies was clear enough: from now on, the Guardian was resolutely going to be a team player.
What these experiences with the Guardian and the Intercept doubtless demonstrated to Greenwald was that his most fundamental political principles were essentially incompatible with those of the “liberal” media – and all the more so in the Trump era. The priority for liberal publications was not truth-telling or hosting all sides of the debate but frantically shoring up the authority of a “moderate” technocratic elite, one that would ensure a stable neoliberal environment in which it could continue its wealth extraction and accumulation.
Robinson implies that Greenwald has been embittered by these experiences, and is petulantly hitting back against the “liberal” establishment without regard to the consequences. But a fairer reading would be that Greenwald is fighting against kneejerk, authoritarian instincts wherever they are found in our societies – on the right, the centre and the left.
The irony is that he appears be getting a better hearing on Tucker Carlson than he does at the Guardian or the Intercept. Contrary to Robinson’s claim, that says more about the Guardian and the so-called liberal media than it does about Greenwald.
Captured by wokeness
Robinson also misrepresents what Greenwald and Taibbi are trying to do when they appear on rightwing media.
First, he gives every impression of arguing that, by appearing on the Tucker Carlson show, Greenwald naively hopes to persuade Carlson to switch allegiance from a rightwing to leftwing populism. But Greenwald doesn’t go on the Tucker Carlson show to turn its host into a leftist. He appears on the show to reach and influence Carlson’s millions of viewers, who do not have the same investment in neoliberalism’s continuing success as the multi-millionaire Carlson does.
Is Greenwald’s calculation any more unreasonable than Robinson’s belief while writing for the Guardian that he might succeed in turning the Guardian’s liberal readers into socialists? Is Robinson right to assume that liberals are any less committed to their selfish political worldview than the right? Or that – when their side is losing – liberal readers of the Guardian are any less susceptible to authoritarianism than rightwing viewers of Fox News?
Robinson also wrongly accuses Greenwald and Taibbi of suggesting that the CIA and major corporations have, in Robinson’s words, “become captured by culturally left ‘woke’ ideology”. But neither writer appears to believe that Black Lives Matter or #MeToo is dictating policy to the establishment. The pair are arguing instead that the CIA and the corporations are exploiting and manipulating “woke” ideology to advance their own authoritarian agendas.
Their point is not that the establishment is liberal but rather that it can more credibly market itself as liberal or progressive when a Trump is in power or when it is feared that a Trump might return to power. And that perception weakens truly progressive politics. By donning the garb of liberalism, elites are able to twist the values and objectives of social movements in ways designed to damage them and foster greater social divisions.
A feminism that celebrates women taking all the top jobs at the big arms manufacturers – the corporations whose business is the murder of men, women and children – is not really feminism. It is a perversion of feminism. Similarly, establishment claims to “wokeness” provide cover as western elites internally divide their own societies and dominate or destroy foreign ones.
So inspiring pic.twitter.com/VPuIV71sH9
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) January 3, 2019
“Woke authoritarianism”, as Robinson mockingly terms it, is not an attribute of wokeness. It is a description of one specific incarnation of authoritarianism that is currently favoured by an establishment that, in the post-Trump era, has managed more successfully to cast itself as liberal.
Mask torn off
The central issue here – the one Robinson raises but avoids discussing – is what political conditions are most likely to foster authoritarianism in the US and other western states, and what can be done to reverse those conditions.
For Robinson, the answer is reassuringly straightforward. Trump and his rightwing populism pose the biggest threat, and the Democratic party – however dismal its leaders – is the only available vehicle for countering that menace. Therefore, left journalists have a duty to steer clear of arguments or associations that might confer legitimacy on the right.
For Greenwald and Taibbi, the picture looks far more complicated, treacherous and potentially bleak.
Trump fundamentally divided the US. For a significant section of the public, he answered their deep-seated and intensifying disenchantment with a political system that appears to be rigged against their interests after its wholesale takeover by corporate elites decades ago. He offered hope, however false.
For others, Trump threatened to topple the liberal facade the corporate elites had erected to sanctify their rule. He dispensed with the liberal pieties that had so effectively served to conceal US imperialism abroad and to maintain the fiction of democracy at home. His election tore the mask off everything that was already deeply ugly about the US political system.
Did that glimpse into the abyss fuel the sense of urgency among liberals and parts of the left to be rid of Trump at all costs – and the current desperation to prevent him or someone like him from returning to the Oval Office, even if it means further trashing free speech and transparency?
In essence, the dilemma the left now faces is this:
- To work with the Democrats, with liberals, who are desperate to put the mask back on the system, to shore up its deceptions, so that political stability can be restored – a stability that is waging war around the globe, that is escalating the threat of super-power tensions and nuclear annihilation, and that is destroying the planet.
- Or to keep the mask off, and work with those elements of the populist left and right that share a commitment to free speech and transparency, in the hope that through open debate we can expose the current rule by an unaccountable, authoritarian technocratic class and its corporate patrons masquerading as “liberals”.
The truth is we may be caught between a rock and hard place. Even as the warning signs mount, liberals may stick with the comfort blanket of rule by self-professed experts to the bitter end, to the point of economic and ecological collapse. And conservatives may, at the end of the day, prove that their commitment to free speech and disdain for corporate elites is far weaker than their susceptibility to narcissist strongmen.
Robinson no more has a crystal ball to see the future than Greenwald. Both are making decisions in the dark. For that reason, Robinson and his allies on the left would be better advised to stop claiming they hold the moral high ground.
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Nathan J Robinson sounds like another navel gazing tool.
Not everything but much. When the pants are dropped to fully expose the syphilitic Israeli disease then it will get really ugly.
Great analysis. I guess what burns the butts of Establishment Liberals (fascists) is the rigid consistency, and integrity writers like Greenwald/Taibbi show over time, versus the hypocrisy of a Partisanship that opposes the other monopoly Party’s wars, while it it supports its own monopoly Party’s wars, which are in fact the same wars. When it comes to the Establishment of right and left they are closer than two stones is a Cuzco wall.
The threat to ‘democracy’ doesn’t come from any ideology of the ‘right’ or ‘left’ but from the glacial monopoly two party Establishment center that worships at the altar of the Divine Right of Kings.
Anyone who believes that the Right wields any power at all in our society is living in La-la Land.
I think the Left lost it over Trump in part because he made them uncomfortably aware that socialism and nationalism are a package deal. The ideological Right lost it over him because he blew up all their pretty little lies. Politics isn’t about ideological debate, it’s about getting the power to enact your policy preferences. Without the exercise of power, you’re just an effete academic. And that’s really all that conservatives are: effete academics in comfy sinecures.
Anyone who supports censorship is not on the left, they are authoritarian right wing.
As Ron Paul has said, we do not need a third party, we need a second party.
Good reporter, vanquished for his bizzarre love of Trump.
@gottlieb
You found just the right word: Integrity.
Vanquished? How was he (Greenwald?) vanquished?
Having said that I have no interest in anything else Robinson has to say.
“I think the Left lost it over Trump in part because he made them uncomfortably aware that **socialism and nationalism are a package deal**.”
That was Trump’s team who crafted that position. He was simply the message boy. Although, it would appear that Trump himself relishes socialist policies.
https://theweek.com/articles/936534/trump-bigger-socialist-than-biden
Of course, it really helps to define exactly what is socialism. In a 2018 Gallup Poll, respondents were asked what socialism means. The answers were all over the map. The most common responses (23 percent), fell into the category of “no opinion” or “equal standing for everybody, all equal in rights, equal in distribution”. The next most common answer (17 percent) was “government ownership or control”. Then there were the 6 percent who thought socialism meant “talking to people, being social, social media, talking to people”. So in this backdrop of confusion over meanings, Trump and Republicans seized on the opportunity to define that concept of the 2020 election, serving as both epithet and warning shot.
“The ideological Right lost it over him because he blew up all their pretty little lies.”
Is that your Tucker Carlson shtick?
“Politics isn’t about ideological debate, it’s about getting the power to enact your policy preferences.”
We’ve been over this before–politics is about getting power to enact your policy preferences, which are based on ideology. D’s and R’s seek to promote their ideology to gain normie support for their particular causes.
Seriously. Bizarre indeed! Why couldn’t Glenn just get on board and go along with the national security state agenda?? He’s a Kremlin agent! An Assad toady!! A hapless stooge of Drumpf!!!
Anyone who believes that the left wields any power at all in our society is living in La-la Land.
PS: identity politics and woke-ism are not left.
PSS: the Democratic Party is RIGHT WING.
Exactly what are these real crimes that you and all the other idiots who think they are writers keep yammering about?
Jonathan Cook is as addled and moronic as the guy he’s writing about, Nathan Levinson.
Cook gets everything wrong about Greenwald and Taibbi, and even Tucker. Hey Joni. Why can’t these men just be for the truth? Why do lefty loonys like you have to impute some kind of agenda to everything and everybody?
Your article was another tiring, depressing window into the thinking of so many–and a clear picture of why the US is so fucked as a country. With people like you and yours running around forget about any thing good happening.
Seems like the real reason for his problems with Greenwald.
“But Greenwald doesn’t go on the Tucker Carlson show to turn its host into a leftist. He appears on the show to reach and influence Carlson’s millions of viewers, who do not have the same investment in neoliberalism’s continuing success as the multi-millionaire Carlson does.”
This is always a problem. You can’t help but wonder at times how much Carlson believes in his own reporting. Like the muck-dripping Maddow & other supposed champions of the Left, these corporate talking heads are enormously enriched from stirring up controversy (or tapping into them) & then channeling it into reactions that don’t threaten their own personal status & wealth. They work to use the left populists to keep the right populists down & the right populists to keep the left populists down & profit handsomely from it. This is one of the best articles of the year. Kudos, Jonathan
Didn’t read it Coronavirus.
Are you claiming it’s not real communism?
Nathan Robinson’s piece is totally nonsensical. His thesis, as can be discerned, is that Trump and his ilk on the new right are racist and “endanger the planet because of climate change.”
Here’s Robinson complaining about Greenwald’s misplaced priorities:
I used to kid my leftist friends 15 years ago that the Democratic Party really is just about the chimerical issue of climate change. But it seems they’re really tripling down on it (and now the bogeyman of systemic racism).
I’m assuming your reasoning for this claim equates to something approximating “because Hitler”. Well done. Typing in caps proves your point well. I’m convinced. Despite the lack of any supporting argument.
Wokism is right wing. Despite wanting to destroy and subjugate the whites who make up 95% of the right wing. Because Hitler.
That’s exactly how I felt after I forced myself to read this drivel by Robinson.
One thing I learned from it is that the 92 year-old Noam Chomsky must be a shell of his former self. While his politics were never mine, like Marx, he often had interesting observations on elite control of institutions and propaganda. Now he seems to have turned into a scared little girl about climate change (scary!!) like Greta Thurnberg.
On the bright side, the first several pages of Robinson’s article has a nice collection of the best of Greenwald and Taibbi’s quotes.
Except Tucker had his house attacked by Antifa thugs. While his wife and children had to hide in a closet.
I think he speaks a bit more from the heart on these issues than you suspect.
For decades some on the fringe have talked about the Shadow Govt.
Trump brought these blood-soaked parasites out into the day light.
Trump followed the Constitution and is a decent human.
Maybe the most decent politician the USA has ever had.
2024, even before, the war for survival: now or never
5 dancing shlomos
Communists are big on censorship — often using a bullet — they are “right wing”?
lol. Good one, commie.
It’s all a matter of the paradigm.
If we rephrase it as a matter of truth versus lies, it all falls into place.
Glenn realized the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Left is all about censorship. They believe they are making the world a better place, and if you are against them, by definition you are evil and must be stopped at all costs.
Noam lost me at 9-11. What an imbecile. I lost all respect for him then.
You now, in real time,I’m watching Wednesday’s Tucker Carlson and he has the creator of the mRNA process on. How is that a right wing agenda???
In his recent shows on Fox Nation he hosts a variety of people talking frankly about the issues of the day. He has another show that details everything from gangs in El Salvador to corporations taking over Maine forests.
What about any of this is a right wing agenda???????
What is wrong with these insane imbeciles?
Oops got to go. Tucker is allowing that crazed leftie Rose McGowan on his show.
What other person on TV would do so?
Really good write-up Jonathan. Nailed it in so many ways.
What happened?
Trump happened!
Love him, like him, or hate him, but his presidency pulled the pants right off the faux-liberal establishment and exposed it’s true authoritarian nature. It’s the dumb liberals(shit-libs) like Robinson that can’t see the exposed genitalia right in front of their face – they just keep feeding the beast more with their calls for censorship(to keep Trump out), and propping up a security state that punishes trespassers as treasonous traitors, while letting arsonists who burn down government buildings go free.
What happened to Greenwald? You said it best here
The battle is fundamentally about the Racial Transformation of the US…I believe that Greenwald and Taibi support this because they believe it could be a soft landing for the White Minority-which it won’t. The Left wants to engage in flame throwing open hatred towards White F0lks.
Chomsky obviously hates the Native White Working Class and the Native Syrian People of Syria. Chomsky is onboard with the destruction of Syria to suite the needs of Jews. Chomsky is a creepy piece of shit.
The Left is in a rapturous state these over two things:1)the homosexual pederast norming of American Society and the Racial transformation of the US. They want the very young children and they want the White Working Class fucking dead. It’s full-spend ahead with 1) and )2…Greenwald and Taibi are seen as speedbumps to 1) and 2)
Noam was and still is right on 9/11..it has been debated to death…The 9/11 Truthers have lost the scientific and engineering debate many many times over…THE MUSLIMS DID 9/11 and the earlier attack on the Twin Towers back in Feb 1993….
Jonathan Cook as much. White noise, keeping each other alive.
No, Tom, Hitler has nothing to do with this. Fascism has something to do with it; the Democratic Party is a fascistic formation, second only to the Republican Party in that respect. But Hitler and Naziism (national socialism) are irrelevant.
As for lack of supporting argument: true enough, I did not provide any. But you can easily provide it yourself; just read the news. The Democratic Party supports continuous war (right-wing, fascistic), gross inequality (right-wing, fascistic), unfettered capitalism and corporate dominance of society (right-wing, fascistic), Israel and hugely-excessive Israeli influence in U.S. society and politics (right-wing, fascistic), and on and on. I have a hard time coming up with anything the DP does that is NOT right-wing and fascistic. Oh, maybe tranny bathrooms, or something trivial like that.
Thank you. Cheers!
“Are you claiming it’s not real communism?”
Sorry, friend, but I do not know what the “it” is, to which you refer.
Do you know what “communism” means? Sounds like maybe you don’t.
What all this rambling shite amounts to is this, a falling out amongst an ultra right,ultra left syncretic movement of kremlin useful idiots
Putin likes this syncretic formation because its part of Putin’s plan to destroy the west
Putin and his mad mullah friends in Tehran,plus his little Chinese friends are the REAL criminal authoritarian who want to destroy the west,and if you want then you can all live under their rules
if you want to see what kind of world that looks like,two examples,Belarus and Chechnya,two absolutely terrific countries to live in I’m sure!
Robinson et al are traitors to the tradition and standards they claim to respect. Taibbi and Greenwald stand out as writers of principle. The disintegration of the once somewhat liberalmedia is revolting. Let every force be gathered against the mutants. Let the fake-news media be denounced at every point. Full support to the T & Gs where they stand fast.
I have read only a few things by Mr. Cook and none by Mr. Robinson, but used “another” with that general principle in mind. The ideological purity intramurals, whether “Left” or “Right,” couldn’t be less consequential to the Establishment.
It’s you again, stupid hasbarat. Stop posting here, you’re wasting your time. This is not a site for partizan midwits, bozo. Go hide in huffpo or some such.
This overly-long exercise in snowflake pillow fighting reminds me of my days at Berkeley, when we debated meaningless drivel under the cold-blue skies of irresponsible youth.
Wow…. “great article “….yer, great.
May I just remind everyone here, that ANY MSM perspective on politics etc is toxic?
If you interpret events via the prism of anything vaguely MSM you will have a poisoned viewpoint?.
My God! All of this trivial “oh but that view may give Trump 43 atoms of O2 — you fucking fascist! ”
Fuck off, the lot of you. (oh, the Left? They’re the ones who want to destroy the 0.01 % & (somehow) give power to the 99%. It’s not nano- tech’. It’s called freedom & equality. )
But, yes I know, that’s communism…. or is it Nazism? Hang on – it’s liberalism? Nar, it’s just fantasy that no one gives a fuck about. Big Mac anyone?
What happened to the ‘left’ in the West? Orwell nailed it almost 85 years ago:
That’s what we live under now, folks: a “dictatorship of the prigs.”
Not strange at all to see Greenwald on Tucker’s show – Left and Right should coalesce against Authoritarianism. It hasn’t occurred to most Lefties that pushing liberal social values via Authoritarianism is still Authoritarianism. Occupy Wall Street went to the heart of the real problem – the 1% – which is why the movement was obliterated by the authorities. Meanwhile we fiddle with the divisive social issues, all well designed to create chaos and divide Left and Right so we avoid facing the real problem – the 1%.
All communism has ever done is to replace one set of elites (native monarchy/aristocracy) with another (Jewish or Jewish led internationalists).
The mass of people are really no better off under communism than under capitalism.
You are correct about one thing though – the Democrats are really no different than the Republicans. They both exist to support the interests of the global elite.
Scientifically and from an engineering point fools like you lost the “argument” before it began. Scientifically, buildings can not fall into their own footprint at free fall. Case closed.. There is no argument. Period.
Noam was and still is wrong on 9/11. He says something about motive (how could it be the government or another entity? or something like that), which only stupid people say. Just because you don’t know who did it or why they did it doesn’t mean that buildings fall at free fall straight down in violation of the laws of physics.
Chomsky is embedded in a university famous for its engineering,no? He should know better. He is either willfully blind or totally stupid.
As for your Feb 93 thing, there is ample evidence that that was just another of the numerous FBI sting operations that the venerable agency has done multiple times.
But you keep believing your nonsense. I can tell how much it means to you.
Who cares what’s “liberal” or “left” or “right”? A real journalist tells the truth, as close as they can, and lets the chips fall where they may.
Anyone against that, like this Nathan Robinson clown, is a propagandist, not a journalist.
Agreed.
The battles over transgender statues and Confederate bathrooms are silly enough, but people are now being divided & conquered with COVID.
Rule of Thumb: Anything that your TV or a politician tells you is important … isn’t.
Left and right have coalesced
Basically an alliance now exists between the Left and Right,its a syncretic alliance which is manipulated by the Kremlin,via propaganda outlets like RT International
The point is my friend it isn’t gonna get rid of authoritarianism because its working for Putin who is an autocratic authoritarian
If you doubt me just look at how easy it was to recruit Greenwald,Assange or Snowdon who’ve all done sterling work promoting the kremlins propaganda
Liberal-Imperial ZOG is declaring war on journalist heretics not on board the Globalist-Zionist program. They did the same to the deceased Robert Parry of Consortium News.
Jews consider Christianity a pathology. “Liberal” Jew-stooges do what their Zionist masters say. Jewish bankers have made anti-Christendom profitable. Soulless Jew-stooges follow the money. Judeo-“Christian” Zionists follow the Jewish neocons.
This is what ZOG America will look like everywhere.
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2021/06/18/the-merchants-of-venice-beach/
Rephrase for you. They may have previously on the left + non-authoritarian but no longer if support censorship.
Lol, “No Hitler has nothing to do with this”
-proceeds to call everything right wing fascist
So I was dead on the mark then. You don’t know the difference between left and right.
Authoritarianism cloaked in the language of advancing equity and equality would be defined by anyone possessing a brain as left wing, or communistic. Their actual policy is not communistic, at least insofar as economics are concerned it’s capitalistic. But capitalism isn’t right or left wing. Communists engaged in plenty of war, foreign aggression is NOT something relegated to the domain of right wing thought. And anyway that’s all secondary, and simply caused by corruption. Their Ideology is still left wing. Which was my whole point. There is such a thing as left wing fascism.
But we are arguing over semantics, it sounds like we probably agree on many things other than that. Everything you listed, aside from how you defined it, I am in agreement on. The american gov’t is corrupt. The distinction between the D’s and R’s is mostly meaningless. Both are shit.
Oh well at least Parry wasn’t Russian,because sure as hell if he’d been a Russian journalist digging the dirt on Putin he’d have had a bullet put through his skull,and his Consortium News would be closed down absolutely by now in Putin’s Russia
I must sgree Rachael’s sign is ridiculous beyond belief. But, Trump is a conartist, as evidenced by peddling everything from steaks to University degrees under one roof. His “charity” has proven to be just another way to spend personal income tax free. His Racist Real Estate Empire has been used to launder Russian criminal money. His pardoning of partners in crime is despicable. His determination and joy in executing the innocent is despicable. He is a despicable conartist.
He barely lost in 2020 because you can fool some of the people all the time but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
He won in 2016 because Republicans cheat.
I think who you’re allowed to memorialize and whether aggressive, delusional men can be allowed in bathrooms or athletic competition with women is kind of important.
“All communism has ever done is to replace one set of elites (native monarchy/aristocracy) with another (Jewish or Jewish led internationalists).”
Rubbish. The PRC is not run by Jewish elites. Nor is the DPRK. Or Cuba. Or Vietnam. Or Iran. Each of which is a socialist system, albeit varying a great deal.
“The mass of people are really no better off under communism than under capitalism.”
Rubbish, provided we are talking about socialism (communism being a distant ideal, not yet achieved anywhere, though the PRC is well on the way). After the Chinese and Russian revolutions, living standards and quality of life, as well as length of life (life expectancy), improved dramatically. The Chinese abolished (ABOLISHED) famine, after 2000 years of roughly annual famines, devastating in nature. Now 60 years with no famine, with no backsliding in sight. That’s in addition to dramatic improvements in virtually every other metric related to quality of life. It is acknowledged by everyone (even reactionaries, capitalism apologists) that China has been responsible for near-100% of the huge reduction in global poverty over the last 30 years. Hundreds of millions lifted out of poverty! This is the greatest human rights victory of all time.
So tell me again how “the mass of people are really no better off”. You really don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.
“Lol, “No Hitler has nothing to do with this”
-proceeds to call everything right wing fascist”
Hitler, Hitlerism and Naziism were historically specific, and though NS partook of aspects of fascism, that specific iteration was in no way generalizable to other times and places. Hence no, Hitler has nothing to do with it. Or not much anyway. No, you were not “dead on the mark”.
“Authoritarianism cloaked in the language of advancing equity and equality would be defined by anyone possessing a brain as left wing, or communistic.”
You would appear to be talking about the Democratic Party and those in its orbit. No, they are not left wing, and there are ANYTHING but communistic. Their “equity and equality” rhetoric is laughable; I don’t know why anyone would take them seriously. Luke-warm identity politics is not even slightly authentically left, and in the case of the DP it is nothing but a cynical patina.
No, there is no such thing as “left wing fascism”. That’s absurd, a true contradiction in terms.
Well this is why I tend to avoid terms used to describe decades old (and pretty much completely defunct) ideologies. Their meanings have become twisted and convoluted over the years and can mean very different things to different people. I’m from the US, perhaps you are not. Anyway like I said, I think arguing about semantics is pretty pointless.
We agree that the thing in question is bad, but not on what to call the thing. I’ll just call it the US ruling class, because that’s what it is and there’s less ideological baggage inherent to that term. The USs’ donor class is pretty shit. Democracy pretty much just means the people who control the flow of information rule over you. They are hypocritical, authoritarian, paranoid, greedy, misanthropic and have caused great harm to the wellbeing of my people and pretty much everyone else in the world too.
I think of myself as right wing because I’m from the US and we have intense racial and social divisions here. In the US the term “right wing” usually means you are a white person (usually) who doesn’t feel guilty for being born and refuses to bow to blacks and trannys. Maybe you are from somewhere where the meaning is different.
The left-right framework has long been useless. The best framework is Liberty versus Tyranny.
View every Politician, Journalist, and commentator through the lens “does he support more Tyranny or less ?”
One thing you can say about Enjeti is that he is a vicious Sinophobe. But that is mandatory throughout the Western brainwashing apparatus. It is morbidly fascinating watching the accelerating rush of Western psychopaths to mutually assured self-destruction.
I believe the real division in humanity is between those who hate and fear others, and those who are happy to co-exist with others. The first I call Right, and you are definitely one.
Little Johnny is a typical Western, brainwashed, pig ignorant, racist. They have no idea about China, want none, and desire only yo destroy the ‘ChiComms’. The genocidal fever is very strong with them.
What I want to know is what happened to Rachel MadCow… oh yeah, she got bought off. I’ll never forget how rational she seemed on Air America Radio during the Iraq War….
Censorship is nothing new for Jeremy. In 2013 he threatened to pull out of a conference in London if they allowed Mother Agnes Mariam de la Croix to speak.
How does Cook know that Snowden was not a limited hangout? How does Cook know that Greenwald left the Intercept for the stated reasons?
“More of the same” political conditions will likely foster more authoritarianism and there’s little in prospect to reverse the process. Effective opposition needs solid faith/identity and a high level of organization – with no signs at all of either.
Following this line, it’s a safe bet is that local Wokeness enforcement will be strengthened, CRT made obligatory in schools. with dissidents arrested under “hate speech” laws and Antifa physically intimidating opponents until everyone lives in fear.
I prefer “Totalitarianism” to “Authoritarianism”. Under Totalitarianism dissidents get cancelled/arrested (or worse) using the witchhunt concept.
He also sounds like another “billionaire lefty”, AKA “Wall Street lefty”, AKA “City of London lefty”. These “lefties” focus on the shallow divides that distract attention from the financial puppetmasters behind both curtains. Glenwald and Taibbi are simply too damn truthful, especially compared to sell-out tools like the Young Turks, Rachel Maddow, etc.
Here’s Jimmy Dore’s meticulous, classic evisceration of the Young Turks, plus more. “Roger Waters Tells Mark Zuckerberg “F*** You!””
Here’s background info on the trillionaire cabal behind the curtains. “War Profiteers and Israel’s Bank”
https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html
Having Russel Brand as a source of legitimacy to this piece is despicable. This POS was fired by the BBC a day after 9/11 for dressing up as Osama Bin Ladin. He went on to become a movie star and marry rock star Katy Perry, which soon failed.
As for Greenwald, anyone who advocates homosexuality for Global Homo has alternative motives.
We are being infiltrated by those who seek to ride on the backs of America first and capitalize on white victimization who are now declared white Supremacists and domestic terrorists.
They now seem sympathetic after attacking Trump and patriots for years, and now claim allegiance, yet still distance from any part of his presidency.
This is what turncoats and traitors do when they’ve lost all credibility.
I’ve always been flumoxed by the assertion on the political left that it’s the right wing that is “authoritarian.” The right wing, at least in American politics, is about smaller government, lower taxes, less regulation, less bureaucracy. It’s the left that’s always been about putting the all-powerful state in charge of everything from our health care to wages, prices, and interest rates to the education of our children.
Indeed, while I found this article interesting, the author repeats for the millionth time the charge that the main problem with Trump was that he was an “authoritarian,” without providing any evidence of same. Not to say that Trump was ideal, but compared to his predecessors and his putative successor, he looked practically Jeffersonian.
Money from the Big Foundations is what happened.
Greenwald is another untrustworthy Jew peddling the Wuhan lab leak theory. He’s doing his work to prep the American bull for its fight in the ring with China. You can basically determine Mossad membership by seeing who does and doesn’t peddle that to the alt-right. Thankfully the grace and agility of the Chinese command economy will defeat the Trumpkins in league with the CIA. Remember 1/6/21! Federal agents (the dee state) in league with Trump supporters committed a 9/11 style terrorizer attack. Nothing is below a Trump supporter’s philosmeitism. He would even topple his government for them.
Truth.
Frankly, anyone who still uses Twitter in 2021 is asking for it.
This is Q-tard level delusion.
It’s extremely dubious to call Fascism ‘right wing’. If you read through the the Fascist manifesto it reads like a typical list of leftist goals:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_Manifesto
I would classify Fascism as a ‘hybrid’ – neither really left nor right wing. I do agree that the unholy entwining of corporations and the state that we live under now is highly fascistic though.
What defines ‘right wing’ and ‘left wing’ has morphed over time, but the consistent features are belief in egalitarianism for leftists, and belief in natural inequality for rightists. By that definition the modern Democratic party is firmly in the leftist camp.
And a hypocrite who shielded his millions from taxation in a trust.
monopoly party war provides the energy.
Establishment center depends on binary narrative. The interface splits the atom; the product is monopoly; MSM distributes the binary into the mind of the masses.
Binary narratives (morality: good/bad, abortion:yes/no, guns: yes/no, war: yes/no) are the foundation of divide and conquer strategies.
Needed is: a narrative capable to merge the binaries, capable to deflate the monopoly, capable to make the interface transparent? Evidence based counter narrative offers little resistance as the public continues to adopt one or the other pole.
Polarization narrative.. depends on the binary.
Brilliant essay from Jonathan Cook.
I watched about a third of his embedded video.
He explains his views very clearly, and there is IMO absolutely no basis for Nathanial what’s-his-name to misunderstand him.
Lets not forget that Greenwald got famous during the Snowden revelations. Lets also not forget that he never published all the material Snowden entrusted him with. In effect, he helped cover up what Snowden was trying to expose.
Thereafter, he became wealthy and a celebrity for being a traitor. No matter what else he does, he is forever tainted by the method he used to gain prominence.
Israel is the crowning glory of The International Jew. The infestation in our societies is even worse. The secular, bottom line, turbo capitalist, vampire squid financial system is destroying the middle class. The anti Christ, globohomo elite dominated by the Jews, have the advantage. It must be defeated.
Taibbi is good but a bit too cerebral and hasn’t been on too many videos or TV, as far as I’ve noticed, lately. Glenn Greenwald, while being a globohomo elite himself is also a good ally of Americanists. I don’t know his stance on Izrael but figure he’s on the fence, him being a Jew and all.
Zion and The International Jew must be defeated.
This is a very good article.
Well reasoned and well written.
Look, since 2015, anyone who’s anybody has ever more plaintively tried to blame Trump for their own failings. It reminds me of this scene from Trading Places (@ 0:55 – 1:34):
I won’t belabor on Trump, you can read my previous comments on this website if you’re interested. For our purposes in the instant context, just accept that it hasn’t gone according to plan for the global “Trump Must Go!” alignment, foreign and domestic.
Just accept that they’ve had no relief. Like gamblers ever more in the hole, they keep ever more plaintively hoping to get back to even so they can slink away from the game.
That’s a Process of Discrediting. Self-induced and helped along by others to varying degrees depending on who we’re talking about. The principal other was and is Trump himself. If you doubt this just consider how small his three three immediate predecessors have become.
Greenwald and Taibbi are small refractions of this process. While no one mentions it, an overriding driver of the anti-Trump swells was resentment. Let’s just say if you’re part of the Ruling and Governing Classes he’s made you feel bad about yourself for five years and counting.
Greenwald and Taibbi are doing the same for those who still playfully call themselves journalists and opinion writers. That they’re making a rather decent living via sub stack adds insult to injury for those who are well and truly lost.
You’ll note that I haven’t offered a word of criticism of Robinson even though his attempted takedown of Greenwald. I would invoke “What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger,” which applies not the least to the free exchange of ideas, but Robinson’s attack is lame.
Both Greenwald and Taibbi are smart and doing their thing. If you’re even considering whether either or both is part of the problem (and thus something must be done) you’re part of the problem yourself.
Cook deserves points for weighing in. Though his Rodney King schtick, “Can’t we all [on the left] get along?” could have been a bit shorter.
Populism is related to Aristotle’s cycle:
So, the context is not a left-right divide, it is a class divide.
The left-right argument is a diversion that occludes thought on what are the real dynamics at play, namely the debt cycle.
Various mechanisms are used for the rise of Oligarchy, and the two main mechanisms are 1) land enclosure, or 2) debts making claims for sordid gain.
Democracy is impossible when overlaid with debt generating finance capitalism, where “finance” corporations operate to become a ruling Oligarchy. This includes owning the narrative to then gaslight the populace.
https://michael-hudson.com/2011/12/democracy-and-debt/
The populist Tryant is the good Oligarch who arises to kill off the other Oligarchs. Trump in this scenario was the “good oligarch” who would lead a populist rebellion to release debts and re-balance civilization. Sadly, Trump and his advisors were clueless about the historical dynamic of debt polarization.
Usufruct is the legal right of using and enjoying the fruits or profits of something belonging to another. If the country is an Oligarchy, then the usufruct vectors wealth to privateers rather than being redistributed back to laboring producers.
Oligarchy, Debt Mechanics, Class, Usufruct, Tyrants, Aristotle, Finance Capitalism – None of these concepts are used in jcooks article.
Why? Because the left-right divide is a symptom, and does not get at the underlying dynamics.
Neither Greenwald nor Tucker Carlson are political economists, and hence don’t have the mental language for understanding the larger dynamics.
Debt instruments are distributed into “free markets” and hence cannot be easily erased, ultimately leading to the downfall of America as its polarization continues apace. The owned press will continue to blind the public by hiding behind the left-right divide. Presstitutes will do the bidding of their paymasters.
Judeo-Christianity ignores Isaiah who decries (((usurers))) who have put house to house, because to do so is anti-semitic. Putting house to house is why our (((friends))) have been kicked out of 108 countries, usually by a populist king.
From a population base of around 2%, over half of American Oligarchs are Jews.
Is the next American good-tryant going to be a Jew to overthrow and kill the other Oligarch Jews?
Why should I care?
Cook is generally respectable.
What is he doing getting involved in a high-school spat?
Amen to that.
The Israeli parasitic infection has reached critical mass.
http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/how-the-ashkenazi-jews-conquered-the-west/
Check out Shanghai against DC Baltimore St Louis Chicago Minneapolis LA San Fran Oakland Portland Seattle St Paul —-and see the difference
I think they(the left) lost it because they found out people disliked them. “They” are the good people. The superior people. “They” have so many college degrees that they never need buy toilet paper again. The subjects of their ideas are mere rubes. To find out these mere rubes actually dislike the they, well that was too much to bear for massive minded folks. It had to be Russia, disinformation, and an orange man corrupting the simpletons’ minds. The they will make sure we never have an independent thinking review on anything. It is for the betterment of us rubes.
In other words the left is made up of criminally insane, self esteemed two legged anuses. Any principled classical liberal knows free speech is a must. Apparently there aren’t many classical liberals left. Also the capitalists of Wall Street financed every version of socialism and marxism that has ever existed. Capitalism is usuryism posing as free marketeers. The descendants of the robber barons have been doing slow dripped socialism to the US for the past century.
“The right wing, at least in American politics, is about smaller government, lower taxes, less regulation, less bureaucracy. ”
Yeah right! Hah! Good one!😂
Since when? You’re kidding, right? Or, you need to rid yourself of this delusion and “wake up and smell the coffee.”
Right and left are just 2 wings of the same bird of prey – and that bird feeds on _you_.
“When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.” ― Frédéric Bastiat,
“Regards” onebornfree
I would classify Fascism as a ‘hybrid’ – neither really left nor right wing.
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Here is Mussolini’s definition.
http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm
Nobody on this thread is using the word “Fascism” correctly.
It is something like “Hitler.” It is a blank slate for projection. It is an emotional word, when there is actually a real definition.
Corporatocracy is where the state has been usurped, usually by a privateering Oligarchy. Corporatocracy is not Fascism.
Fascism arose to counter finance Oligarchy (Corporatocracy) and the excesses of finance capital. Mussolini nationalized the banks in 1926. (Banksters were voting absentee stock and swinging the market to take usury for themselves.)
Yup.
A certain phrase comes to mind: “limited hangout”.
Regards , onebornfree
Pretty much nails it. Think about how Chris Hedges has a similar trajectory.
You had exactly the same stupidity in 1940s.
You had to support Stalin because he was not Hitler!
Anyone who did not support Stalin was helping Hitler.
Anyone who said they are both shite was a fence sitter and had to be denigrated.
I do not remember Greenwald ever praising or supporting Trump.
When he went after Biden he was pointing out that Biden was a corrupt mentally bereft fool.
Which is true.
“If you want to make someone angry, tell him a lie; if you want to make him furious, tell him the truth.”
When ever leftists wake up to reality it always causes a shock wave in that community of “thinkers”. Of course, they never honestly reevaluate the premises of their whole mode of thinking. Instead, they talk of “people who have left the cause” and gone over to the “other side”, or wolves in sheep’s clothing, etc.. There has never been an ideology more seductive than communism, an idea that sounds so beautiful and comes in so many colors and names, yet has always ended up the same–by bringing tens of millions of people to grief when put into action..
Glenn Greenwald Might Remember Trade Unionist Jew Sam Gompers And That Kind Of Memory Is Problematic For The Money-Grubbing Globalizers In The JEW/WASP Ruling Class Of The American Empire.
I wrote this in March of 2019:
I disagree with Michael Tracey and Glenn Greenwald and Matt Taibbi on just about everything. I am a right wing populist patriot and they are left wing populist progressives — maybe I’ll let those guys say what they are, they ain’t much for a lack of words, that’s for sure.
BUT,
Tracey and Greenwald and Taibbi didn’t bite at the jitterbug lure of the Russia — Russia — Russia fraud like stupid largemouth bass. Largemouth bass got a memory of an hour or so, you can catch the same fish with the same lure after an hours time has passed. These guys also weren’t going to play the game of propaganda whores who write and talk about crud that they know is a big damn fraud.
You evil sleazebags in the DEEP STATE and the Democrat Party and the corporate media who pushed this Russia fraud crud will pay for your horrible actions!
I don’t support Trump anymore because of his weakness on immigration and his slavish devotion to Shelly Adelson and Israel, but Trump was attacked by the ruling class with this Russia fraud crud and it was a disgusting scam from the get-go.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/who-is-the-mystery-parent-who-paid-6-5-million-to-get-his-or-her-kid-or-kids-into-which-college/#comment-3114536
Tweets from 2019:
tldr. Am I wrong in my understanding mkay that Greenwald did not “leave” or “walked away from” the Intercept but was in fact fired? I suspect he can be found on Counterpunch.org like Chomsky and Nader.
Sinecure my black behind.
Robinson argues that the right wields all the power in our societies. First. what does he mean by our “societies”. If he is talking about the U.S. he is flat out of his mind claiming the political right has the power. The people who have the power, control the media.. Any dumb head can see that it sure as hell isn’t the right that control the media, including the press. The left’s control of the media in the Western World, not only in the U.S. is so vast that it includes, ALL GLOSSY MAGAZINES, ALL MAJOR NEWSPAPERS, ALL COLLEGE PRESSES, ALL TV STATIONS, A LOT OF RADIO STATIONS ALL MAJOR BOOK PUBLISHING COMPANIES AND OF COURSE, THE GRAND PRIZE, HOLLYWOOD “ENTERTAINMENT” INDUSTRY.
I always get a kick when some witch like Hillary Clinton, speaks of how so and so conservative politician is part of the FOX News network. Sure, on the surface FOX news appears to be conservative, with quite a few conservative sounding hosts. Yet, on major issues like illegal immigration, even FOX NEWS has made it clear that they are not too excited about covering it. Then you have folks like Chris Wallace, a life long democrat, supposedly being one of FOX NEW”s big names. LOL I wonder when this farce will end.
No, Robinson is being an outright liar or disingenuous when he claims something as absurd as the political right having all the power, when Nancy Pelosi, Charles Schumer and the whole leftist establishment can get away with almost anything, even locking up Americans without a trial and without a whimper from the so-called powerful right like Mitch McConnell, Lindsay Graham, or any of the rest of the RINO’s.
The Antifa/BLM 2020 insurrection in DC that the MSM and D’s are trying to push down the memory hole.
The problem we have in the left is that, to be blunt, there is no longer such a thing as a coherent left or even right for that matter. At present it is best to dispense with these two terms because they have no meaning. Robinson’s views do not reflect in any way my own views as an old-line anti-war, anti-authoritarian from the sixties. The so-called left figures of Taibbi, Greenwald and many others, are more interested in truth than being part of a left movement that puts a higher value on power and, frankly, authoritarianism than truth. The forces emerging out of the wreckage of the old left like the figures I mention are interested primarily in presenting an accurate picture of reality as the primary method of achieving some influence over the corporate oligarchs. Robinson and most of the old left prefer to oppose populism rather than the corporate elite–they can live with those people, often classmates from elite universities who come from the upper-middle and upper classes. The new left has more in common with figures like Tucker Carlson who is also anti-authoritarian (rhetorically at least) and more anti-imperial than both political parties who enthusiastically support permanent war and the imperial project and the power-structure as currently constituted. Robinson and the rump-left want us to believe in whatever the authorities tell, i.e., the official Narrative as described by the mainstream media and enforced by most of the Silicon Valley oligarchs. The Greenwald/Taibbi/Aaron Matte (and his Gray Zone colleagues)/Jimmy Dore (and others) part of the left cannot ally itself with the official and rump left. The differences are irreconcilable. This doesn’t mean I believe everything these leftists assert (I’m solidly anti-vaxx, and anti-Covid narrative) but their numbers are growing and their aversion for the authoritarian pro-corporate, identity-politics, neo-Stalinist, and neo-Maoist (CRT) left will gradually be more widely shared by non-upper class leftists.
I think the Carlson/Greenwald as well as the Ball/Enjeti alliance will be the foundation of a new movement towards reviving rationality and truth as well as compassion as positive qualities the Biden-supporting “left” is consciously rejecting.
All of them are tools of the Judeo-WASP bunch and in the end it is all about gobbling up the resources of the world for the 1% and their lackeys, the 9%. Do Tucker, Glenn, Matt or Robinson not belong to the latter class?
What would Fascism as an economic construct be — without regard to the social question?
In other words, could a kind of Fascism be implemented on purely economic terms, without addressing the Shyster question, or are Shysterism and Fascism impossibly incompatible?
It seems to me Shysterism existed throughout Western Civilization, but was kept in the back alleys and vice dens. Shysterism writ large — where you can buy anything at a given price without regard to the social consequences, and the profit mandate rules the roost — is basically the “Corporatocracy” we live in today.
Legacy sects and new ones may spring up to temporarily shield their families and communities from the Shysters, but as we’ve seen with recent events, if they coalesce and get serious about challenging the Corporatocracy/Oligarchy, the Shyster-corrupted state quickly puts them in place, implementing a form of anti-democratic tyranny.
While this public-private Oligarchy is not technically Fascist nor Communist, it borrows aspects of both to impose its will. And eventually state tyranny will become a permanent feature, and kosher Fascism or Communism will prevail (until they inevitably crumble, eventually). In fact, I would argue that Corporatocracy/Oligarchy are already on the cusp of kosher Fascism (see https://therealistreport.com/biden-goes-all-in-on-adl-fbi-hype-over-white-supremacy/ )
If you’ve already caught the fish why would you need to catch it again an hour later?
You don’t know fishing son.
Yawn, squabbles of low level pawns.
Sorry. What abolished famines was the increase in CO2 levels over the past 60 years. It increased the leaf area of plant life and food crops by the equivalent of one whole continent. CO2 is the most important compound used by plants to grow outside of water. And extra CO2 helps plants to conserve water as well. They reduce the size of the stomata/pores that cause them to lose water.
The same has happened around the world. India has not seen a famine. Africa has not seen a famine. The Sahel is greening. The world population has doubled. Any connection to China is incidental, though you might consider their contribution to CO2 levels as a plus.
Greenwald is an apologist for the official 9/11 coverup. Nothing more need be said about him. He proves that faggots are as corrupt as anyone else.
Funny how Greenwald can be two persons at the same time: in the US, a brave and independent journalist of the left who dares to go against the Liberal Establishment in the pursuit of fairness and moderation, and in Brazil, where he actually lives, a vocal and active supporter of the most retrograde, corrupt and totalitarian leftwing faction in the country: the Labor party which had many of its members, including their main leader, Lula, indicted for stealing tens of billions from the government and public companies.
Greenwald was instrumental in destroying the entire anti-corruption operation in the justice system which lead at one time to the imprisonment of many of the criminals who looted Brazil during the Labor party’s years of power, including Lula himself. He did this by publishing in his website the hacked communications of the prosecutors and judges involved in the cases. Although no illegality whatsoever was found in the hacked communications (at most one judge was accused of being too cooperating with the prosecutors, still no crime commited), and that the hacking itself was a crime, the mere fact that the MSM and the Labor party pretended to be outraged at the findings was enough for the Supreme Court, completely dominated by leftists and eager to find any excuse to help their comrades, to throw away nearly all the cases.
Other interesting things about him include:
-His Brazilian husband very conveniently became a congressman without being elected at all (he was chosen to replace an elected congressman who very strangely gave up his position and fled the country before his term even began).
-Greenwald is directly involved with an organization that works essentially as the Brazilian ADL, putting effective pressure on companies to disinvest and cancel everyone they don’t like (all on the right, of course).
Maybe I am paranoid but considering we have so many Americans not causing much trouble or getting involved in our politics at all, and then this guys shows up and in a few years does more to damage the fight against corruption and to combat patriots than nearly any leftist who is not on the supreme court leads me to believe he could be a US Deep State agent.
The fact that he plays the nice moderate guy for American audiences just confirms my suspicions.
Meanwhile this vdo is an introduction to just one aspect (drugs) of the activities of the largest and best-organised Criminal Cartel on planet Earth.
Its identity is known.
It’s called the United States Government.
That is because Judeo-Christianity is a different religion from Christianity and it is different to the faith of the Hebrews, but not of the corrupted Hebrew faith which put Jesus to death and after AD70 became Judaism.
All we can know for sure is that he’s a deep-assed faggot.
These stupid as a box of rocks leftists are trying to convince people that Trump is dangerous and somehow has all of this power to do the things he has some burning desire to do. What they know but despicably are loathed to admit, is that Trump is the sounding board the reflection of the WILL of tens of millions of American voters who have been ignored by their own party and abused by the left. Trump hatred is simply hatred for conservatives is in general, the hatred towards millions of citizens who will not vote the way the left wants them to vote. It’s that simple. The media tried for years to limit the attacks to Trump himself. Now they have given up all pretense and have simply decided to attack tens of millions of people who support Trump as their candidate.
Exactly. When you give up truth in favor of ideology, as Robinson wants, you give yourself up to forebears who may have done exactly the same thing in another cause. Then everything you think you know is built on a house of cards. So for instance:
The trouble is, Robinson’s forebears had scammed us on climate change as well. They lied to us for a generation or two for exactly the same reasons and “good motives”. To maintain the lie they faked the data, and when they got caught faking data in the ClimateGate scandal, they bought the authorities who were brought in to judge them. They sued those who called them out. And they faked still more data to push the lie.
Everybody who voted against Trump for his stand on climate change is living a lie.
The sins of the father will be visited on the children to the third and fourth generation. . .
Economics is political economy. The are part of the same thing, and cannot be separated.
The Social Question is part of economics. For example, when NSDAP Germany decided to send women back to the home-life, that was an economic decision as the labor component of the economy then changed.
Shysterism and Fascism are incompatible. Fascism arose in high trust civilizations in order to squash shysterism. Germany especially, after being traumatized by WW1, and the hyperinflation, looked back to its roots has a high trust civilization that had evolved in the upper middle ages, especially with guilds. Later, under the Kaiser, Germany adopted the American System of Economy, (economy of the founders). Fascism resurrected Industrial Capitalism, which avoids speculative economics of finance capitalism.
Today’s economy closest to NSDAP Germany, or Fascist Italy – is China. China is mixed economy, where state credit channels into industry and sordid finance speculation is squashed e.g. Ant Group.
Mussolini relegated usurers and prostitution to a special district. In other words, he created a carve-out vice den in the political economy. You don’t get rid of it, because you can’t, and instead you regulate it.
Its a matter of hierarchy. Who or what are the controlling elements of your civilization. Are they psychopaths only interested in self-aggrandizement? Are they usurers who have corrupted the state with compromat, threats and buy offs?
Fascist Italy and NSDAP Germany (also Fascist) were recapitulating their civilizations along lines where the hierarchy was for the general welfare and lifting labor up, and various shyster elements were being rooted out. The Iron Rice Bowls of Oligarchs and special interests were being systematically broken.
Our (((friends))) react to real fascism as if they were electrocuted. There is no such thing as Kosher Fascism as the terms are antithetical.
Kosher Fascism is a term analogous to Dry Water.
Of course there is Kosher Communism, since Communism was invented by Jews, and financed into existence by Jewish Finance Capital.
Have you looked at the state of Israel lately? Or the genocidal God-wants-us-to-kill-them-all-and-take-their-land-cuz-we’re-His-chosen-people ideology of the Jewish Bible?
I would say that Jewish pathology can express itself as fascism in a Jewish state (or in pursuit of one) and as faux-internationalism of one sort or another–Menshevism, Trotskyism, Bundism, social democracy, neoconservatism, etc–in the diaspora.
Though I agree with much that Glen Greenwald writes, his dustup regarding Joe Biden’s prior skeletons was somewhat disingenuous.
Given that Donald Trump is the most dangerous and incompetent person to ever inhabit the presidency, attempting to bring up past wrongs by Biden is somewhat foolish from a tactical perspective. Even if one dislike’s Biden intensely, there is not supporting the construct that the United States needed another 4 years of Donald Trump.
The problem with the Left is that they seem to believe that they do not have to act tactically and strategically to accomplish what they want.
I have no qualms with anyone who does not like Joe Biden. I can understand the position.
However, to get out of the quagmire created by Trump we need someone who at least partially is willing to do something for the people.
Anyone who has studied the military analysis regarding Biden’s positions towards China and Russia already knows that his foreign policy people are living on another planet.
In any event, the Right has some legitimate grievances when it comes to restoring some of America’s traditional nationalism. But this will take some time.
Had Greenwald’s writings been published on Biden and actually contributed to a Biden loss does anyone really believe that another 4 years of Trump would not have brought complete Fascism to the United States with an even an additional erosion of our rights.
One must have somewhat of a path to follow if we are to work ourselves out of the mess that Trump symbolized as a culmination of bad domestic and foreign policies for many years. Another Trump term would never have provided that…
What are you talking about?
This article is about a minor bun fight amongst Putin’s western useful idiots, nothing more,why are you blathering on about your elaborate fascist theses when Putin is pulling all the strings from Moscow,via RT International and other kremlin controlled assets,and employing fascism across Europe to achieve his aims
This whole article is about the ignorance of Cook who also doesn’t know he’s being played by the kremlin, or doesn’t care,his association and support for a pair of British useful idiots over at Media Lens should inform any normal person that Cooks so called journalism is total fantasy BS,he’s top of my list for useful idiots,an ex MSM media journalist from the UK Guardian who went rogue,and now unwittingly works for the other side,brilliant what a [email protected]#king hero,not!
Liberalism is a religion and Taibbi and Greenwald are once faithful adherents but are now committing heresy.
They will prolly not be invited to the New High Holy Day of Junteenth
Mussolini defined Fascism.
Here it is:
http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm
The State has not got a theology but it has a moral code.
Jews are agents for Mammon and Liberalism. Mussolini was against the religion of Liberalism.
Please use the word “Fascism” correctly. It is already defined – you cannot make up new meanings.
The Jewish Pathology cannot express itself as Fascism, as they are antithetical. The Pathology includes “creditor” over “debtor” dynamics, which Fascism was correcting.
In other words, if Zionist Talmudists adopted Fascism, they would be canceling themselves.
Biff — you are clueless.:
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communismhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2017/11/20/nicolae-one-hundred-million/
Censorship? LOL — in all ways but their preferred way as shown above was a bullet. Really the fact people would “disagree” with what is open history even with all the lying bs going on today is evidence of some mighty brainwashing at work:
https://www.rbth.com/arts/history/2017/06/27/soviet-censorship-how-did-the-ussr-control-the-public_790892
The “left” lost me a long time ago. I quit watching Amy Goodman when she supported the destruction of Libya and the attempted destruction of Syria in 2011.
The elevation of the transgender agenda as some sort of ”human rights” issue, which has been used to stomp on women and mutilate children, is disgusting to me, but most ”leftists” embrace it. That also started before Trump.
Then came Trump and their irrational hatred of him was used to censor social media and stir up war fever against Russia, but I don’t blame that on Trump. It wasn’t Trump who railed 24/7 against himself, it was the media. It is bizarre to see people pointing fingers at Trump to explain the Trump Hatred when it was media-manufactured.
Who wants to be aligned with such hateful irrational people? Not me.
And now they are demanding vaccine passports and forced inoculations! They crazy.
Very nice observation. We see how the Republicans will circle the wagons to protect their organization and could care less about ideological consistency. The Democrats are like a bunch of undisciplined children constantly clamoring for moral purity when it doesn’t exist anywhere especially in politics. They seem unable to make a greater good calculation. (Look at the comments on this thread in denial of global warming. These are the kinds of ideological blockheads the Republicans thrive upon. Maybe the Democrats are too smart and too independent-minded to form a coherent tactical organization.)
In today’s newslinks section, one can read an article by Greenwald named What Is Behind Gen. Mark Milley’s Righteous Race Sermon? Look to the New Domestic War on Terror. Funnily enough, Greenwald’s focus of criticism in the U.S. is quite the opposite of that which he espouses in Brazil (in both senses of the word, since his ‘husband’ is a lefwing congressman by a party which has the exact same discourse about “systemic racism” and the like).
Why two opposite lines of criticism in the two countries? I have no idea, but bear in mind that the “racist” and “anti-racist” sides in the U.S. and Brazil have inverted respective orientations regarding Russia.
I get it Z-man. But we need to start naming names. This amorphous International Jew doesn’t pull the actual levers. And each side needs to start calling out their own and stop playing the fucking jew game. Politicians don’t count. They’re all puppets jockeying for the big payday. No, we prosecute the cabinet ministers who implement the coercive policies. The Administrative state has long eaten at our soul. The fact that Jonathon Pollard was released from prison, instead of being strung by his gonads and beaten with sticks for the rest of his natural life, and given a hero’s welcome in Izrael should alert us to want to find the perpetrators of this injustice. And how does a troll like Bill Barr able to run under the radar for his treasonous actions not only in allowing the FBI to get away with its treachery but also adding to the coercive unconstitutional powers given to the Agency?
Which part of “National Socialist German Workers Party” don’t you understand? You keep ruining in circles like a chicken with no head. Fascistic is socialistic and vice versa. Far left and far right converge at the same dictatorial point – a well known fact. By all means, keep running around, these dialectics exist for a simple reason… to make more chicken soup…
True, but what you might call “traditional constitutional America” is chronically incapable of organizing anything. They had this dopey idea that a onetime effort to elect Trump was all that was required to return the US to the golden days of the 1950’s. Their trust in Democracy was misplaced – and it probably collapsed altogether with the 2020 leftist/woke election fraud.
Basically, they’re just waiting to be Gulaged unless the US gets descends first into chaos (hyperinflation or a major military defeat?) with the risk that the country morphs into a Rwanda II horror show (with firearms rather than machetes).
Mefobills, what are your thoughts on Paul Gottfried’s book on fascism. He seems to be a very organized political writer. Does it mostly agree with Mussolini’s points?
Cook describing Trump as an authoritarian? That’s rich, it’s also bullshit, but Cook has his roots in the left wing so no surprise. The left loves to accuses others of its own crimes.
As for the rest of the article: left wing “intellectuals” (ha ha) arguing about how to clamp down on free speech. Classic left wing useful idiots supporting authoritarianism.
What the hell, the left wing is still throwing around accusations of “real crimes”. When will these retards work out that Biden, Pelossi and rest of the entire “swamp” is more dangerous than Trump. Talk about idiots, people like Cook need to reboot their brains.
Please answer the questions I’ve already put to you:
https://www.unz.com/pescobar/a-sovereign-iran-will-move-closer-to-russia-china/#comment-4742605
Please don’t interrupt. Chris Moore was directing his questions to me, not you.
I confess that I haven’t read it.
Thanks for the heads up. I’ll take a look.
Mises.org
is pretty interested in Gottfried, so that is a red flag for me. Libertarianism is a branch of liberalism.LOL, all the splendor of Nazi-Fasci in one glorious sentence, thanks for writing it. Yeah sure, we need some more moralizing morons as if we don’t have enough of them already. Every election is about morals… pick your poison. But you say, this time it’s going to be different ™? Nazi-Fasci never sleep, they never think about themselves and expanding their powers over you… well, sometimes, maybe… but only for your own good and in accordance with the glorious moral code. just give them all the power, the “moral code” is going to do the rest, really, believe you me, pigs do fly. /s
In reality, Mussolini is just a crude rewording of some mixture of Lenin and Trotsky, the moral force is the foundation of both:
“since the foundation of the Fascist of revolutionary action in January 1915, I had in mind no specific doctrinal program. The only doctrine of which I had practical experience was that of socialism, from until the winter of 1914 — nearly a decade”
Benito Mussolini: “The Doctrine of Fascism”, 1932
JASPer, I agree with your denunciations, but I have a very great problem with calling the likes of Goodman and the anti-Trumpistas ‘Left’. I know it’s the USA, but I prefer other descriptors.
Funny that seven or so ‘Climategate’ inquiries all proved that it was just another denialist furphy. ALL faked were they, scratchy? And still the temperatures rise, the glaciers and permafrost melt, the wildfires rage, the floods increase in extent and intensity, the droughts spread and deepen, the chaotic discontinuity and leap to a new climate regime looms, while all the while the denialist cultists, the most villainous enemies of Life of Earth, EVER, gibber and slobber their omnicidal inanities and lies.
Good one, scratchy. The Outer Limits, for now, of denialist lunacy!! Do you see ANY upper limit for CO2 in regard to plant growth and productivity? And what about droughts and floods? How do they fit in? The spread of pests (heard of pine beetles, have you)and diseases? And the efforts of people to improve agricultural practises, reforest, bring grazing animals under control or use them to restore grasslands? Everything down to just ONE parameter and there, the more the merrier.
Your contributions are classic Dunning-Krugerism. Too dumb to know that you are being gamed by the denialist industry, and so ideologically fanatic that you will believe ANYTHING that contradicts your enemies, the detested ‘Greenies’, ‘Greta Thunberg’, or whatever. Not much of an advertisement for H. sapiens. At least you are the perfect ‘self-eliminating’ factor.
I’ve wondered the same about “Current Affairs magazine”… Someone is surely paying Nathan Robinson’s salary and it ain’t “Viewers Like You”. The name of the rag could have been generated by a liberal algorithm.
They also would need a web designer, a graphic artist (maybe one person does both), an office lackey, and some “researchers”, I don’t know… staff maybe ten or less. Main guy’s salary probably high. Interns whenever possible. (?)
Current Affairs are the wiseguys who printed the “It’s so great to see a socialist [AOC] on the cover of Vanity Fair” meme, which got a lot of feel-good traction from knuckleheads on the left. The writing in this journal is technically not even Conde Naste level, there was an editorial where a guy compared Trump’s environmental policies or lack thereof to mercenaries murdering Indians in South America, without a shred of evidence. It was a badly-written conceptual leap at best, one which might not pass at the Atlantic or even Vanity Fair without a citation or source. Perhaps this explains the purpose and existence of “Current Affairs”: print outright lies to enrage morons on the left; what a politically useful raison d’etre.
Looking at the site, with its cartoons and graphic design, it does cost someone somewhere money to produce this kind of schtick — it doesn’t look like a labor of love.
You and G. Poulin are both mostly right.
We don’t have much of any true right wing or left wing in America, just a big squishy corporatocracy with two Janus-like faces.
This has been getting a bit more shaken up the past few years, but as Biden’s election shows, the legacy interests still run this show.
Woke is just a handy tool to get the smooth brained normie Democrats to learn to love corporate
power. Very similar to how Republicans could be convinced to destroy their communities through free trade policies because of a foisted belief in free market fundamentalism.
The de-platforming that has been trumpeted by the right has also been applied to the dissident left.
It’s not about right or left. It’s about preserving the interests of the entrenched corporate power class against all us serfs.
Heartening to see this article cross-posted at Unz because its sane.
I’ll beef that Cook keeps referring to the “Left” but there isn’t any meaningful left in USA any more, just varying degrees of conservatism. Which is fine, unless something fundamental needs to change.
The only true leftists remaining are the dregs of the neocons; they’re the only ones who still act in accordance with the belief in revolutionary violence. Everyone else is pragmatic they just ascribe to differing views of best ways to game each other.
The challenge ahead looks like finding something to fight towards that serves very broad interests, for which highly diffuse and individual interests can comprehend and measure some progress.
Money and things monetized cannot be that objective: that game is completely owned by a banking pyramid scheme that is doomed to crack and fall apart.
Freedom has to be re-valued and re-based on a simultaneous and non-paradoxical new right-wing which not only supports access to a decent minimum of material security for all (a new free domain) but also the elevation of human worth to accomplishments beyond material attainments.
Yes this can be in terms of family values, community and civic spirit, and merit.
No it cannot be rooted in Biblical dogma, bigotry, or financial pyramid schemes.
We’ll know we’re on track in USA when the bottom 50% is steadily gaining basic domestic security: stable housing, diet, medicine, and education combined with the free time that supports an explosion in civic life and the arts, while at the same time the top 1% shows broad signs that they know what enough feels like materially, and want to be recognized for traits beyond pure fashion.
From such a baseline we can begin to work through the adaptation to cultural accords, ecological stewardship.
Amazingly we are very close to this but we can’t quite get there because the rich are terrified of their looming death and massively hoard TP, at various levels of abstraction of toilet paper.
There is also an insidious subculture of mental predation by consolidated media ownership guided by hucksters and opportunists.
Just turn on any TV and see the noise that comes blasting from it.
Regrettably, the web is mostly made in the image of TV.
Drat those confounded omnipotent PutinNazis!
My toilet plugged today and who did I see but Vladimir Putin riding a bear, running out of my bathroom!
Putinist terrorism against the West strikes again!
They just frame it so “right” means the rich and powerful institutions and people. No matter that the banks, military, FBI, CIA, defense contractors, media, tech, extra are all Woke, the idiot left still think they are fighting the rich and powerful.
Missn’t Mulga: UR’s walking, living, breathing thesaurus of insults. The last known survivor of the genus Draco ignis, the fire dragon. Must say you got me on that furphy thing, but it did mostly confirm your story about being a Chinese transplant to Australia.
So do tell us how Mr. Michael “Penn State or State Pen” Mann lost his libel suit against Canadian Tim Ball for refusing to pony up discovery on his fake hockey-stick data. While your at it, tell us all about the legal principle of adverse inference.
Also tell us when this latest pause in global warming is going to end. It seems to be up over six years at the moment. With CO2 concentrations still going up at 2 ppm per year, lockdown or not, I’m getting really anxious about Miss Saint Greta’s mental stability if the world doesn’t end in (now) nine years, like she and you have promised.
Glen decided that he is a true humanist. He got red-pilled and we accept him with open arms. Child trafficking is a bridge too far with people who are good.
Actually produce greenhouses find it highly profitable to raise their CO2 concentrations to levels above 1000 ppm, while geologist have determined that atmospheric CO2 concentrations were up around 7000 ppm about 500 million years ago. All our fossil fuels came from that CO2, so we couldn’t get that high even if we burned every last bit of fossil coal we could mine.
Good to see you’re shying away from explaining the greenhouse effect any more. It was quite painful having to explain the difference between radiated and irradiated for you last time.
grow up and understand what has been happening, hyper speed, with child-trafficking. Learn and investigate. You all remember my telling y’all about my 2 close friends who were “purchased”/trafficked as toddlers/children, one of them, over and over again – the one who suicided herself. Wake the fuck up.
this is all connected to the Native American graves, thousands, of children in Canada and the USA just this week. – Fuck these monsters! They need to be executed.
Native American girls have disappeared off of Reservations for 10+ years (in Yellowstone, the TV show, they make a point about this fact).
Native American young women are used as breeders for all the experimental labs (underground) to hahhahahahaaaaa, wait for it: to make a RoboCop-like Trans-humans to serve the elite….so, laborers who are strong enough to harvest the food (the hardest part of the life of a farmer: harvest time). Fuck you all – I hate you…you are all monsters who hate us.
Various people have been spitting out the Koolaid and getting tired of lying in order to win a pointless victory.
A country with a benevolent authoritarian ruler of the same ethnic group as the ruled will prevail. I hail China, as you will too.
I believe there are two main types of Jews: messianic Jews programmed to believe Zionist fairy tales about how Jewish supremacists will rule the world from Jerusalem, and Globalist-ZOG Jews who have “overcome” their programming, or rather modified it (knowingly or unknowingly) to put it to work for Globalism, just as they partnered with Imperialism to use Bolshevism to knock off Czarist Russia.
These hybrids and their partners are possibly preparing to throw Israel under the bus because its too racist and provincial for their ambitions and an easy target for dissidents seeking to smear the real power, which is Imperialism + ZOG hybrids like Zuckerberg.
If Israel goes, Zionism can’t be used so easily to kick these soulless monsters in the teeth. But the Globalists also have the imperative to break up Islam, which is an argument for keeping Israel.
The agenda to rule the world is fraught with difficulties for the hybrids like Klaus Schwab or Bill Gates who undertake it. But they’re barely human anymore, anyway, so to them Israel, Islam, Christendom, populism, patriots, dissidents, difficult negroes, etc. are more of computer bug that they’re seeking to eradicate. Everything is abstract to them, which means they’re unhinged from reality.
I mean, just look at Biden. At this point, he’s like Max Headroom. And his hybrid partners in crime are barely any more coherent. They’re like drones on autopilot.
The West is in grave peril unless these freaks can be unplugged, mainly because it will be rendered naked and prone before its serious enemies unless a Moses arrives to kick ass and put it in shape.
Speaking from a British perspective, there was a political party – the Liberal Democrats -which, under the leadership of the late Charles Kennedy, bravely opposed the Iraq war in 2003.
Kennedy was defenestrated on the pretext of a drink problem and eventually the leadership was assumed by Nick Clegg. Clegg became deputy prime minister in a coalition with David Cameron and said nothing and did nothing when his government went to war against Libya in 2011. More surprisingly, none of the Party’s elected representatives said anything in opposition to this war.
Clegg eventually lost his seat in Parliament but went on to become a senior executive at Facebook, which ought to tell a person everything about any alleged progressivism. More shockingly, for a leader of a political party that included John Stuart Mill among its founders, Clegg played a key role in the censorship of Trump.
As for the sexual depravity thing, I have long wondered if the manner of Gadaffi’s death – a blade up the backside – was a symbolic gesture of the victory of Global Homo. It might explain HRC’s manic laugh about it.
Putin kremlin propaganda useful idiots,simple answer for simple folks
SRA is abhorrent
Democracy be damned, ideas be damned, the people be damned. These ideas are now swamped out by the passion and arrogance of our times. The purpose of ideas is to manipulate, trick, and cozen the gullible, democracy is a fig leaf over the struggle for authoritarian power, and the people since they have no power are not part of the equation at all.
The left will surely drive the US to ruin including the ambitious corporate left. There is no threat from climate change as the left conceives it through AGW, but there is a growing cooling threat which will eventually break through the media censorship to destroy Green credibility. There is no effective power generation from wind and solar. The monies so spent will eventually come back to haunt. The situation in Texas in February is a major example of the US future under liberal policy. Fossil fuels are the mainstay of the modern economy and eliminating their use will bring down the modern economies.
The left will be seen to have nothing to justify its claim on power. Once people really start hurting from these policies the left should swiftly crumble. Before that, however, there is the immense reservoir of ill will being filled by the left’s embrace of CRT and Woke ideology. A large part of the population will be itching to come to grips with the left and destroy it even before economic immiseration forces their hand.
The above considerations are really just an act of rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Actions with no future. The left in its insistence on economic folly and insistence on irrational concepts of equality and equity is rapidly creating a situation of desperation which will leave everyone grasping for strong men who can restore order now. Whether from the left or right, but most likely the right, the Trumps will rise again as the public will demand an end to the sanctimonious chaos of virtue.
Yes, individuals have to be.,. targeted.
Harvey Weinstein was a good start. The Epstein affair can be another. Soros can be a start for going after the Zionist Billionaire’s Boy’s Club- most of the hedge fund managers on Wall Street.
Legally would be the way to get them if the system can stay incorrupt enough. Otherwise the Izraeli model can be used…
You have just demonstrated that you are a non serious person, unable to answer simple questions.
Sure. But my point is that their politicization serves the Establishment as a distraction. How’s this revision of what I said strike you?
You can count on the fingers of one hand the politicians who make it to Washington that could care much less about these things. They pretend to take one side or the other to channel dissent into participatory assent to their system.
I can agree with that. The real issue is the disappearance of the American nation and its replacement by a mercantile empire which is rewriting the past.
I didn’t write it, I posted the link, and then a quote from said link. It is a quote from Mussolini’s description of fascism, which has a stated goal.
What is the stated goal of your precious Anarchy/Libertarianism?
Then you switch gears and falsely accuse me of being a moralizing moron based on what Mussolini said. That is both a strawman and an ad-hominem is one fell swoop. Good job.
The fascist form of socialism was in opposition to bolshevism and communism.. hence the war.
The minds of demoralized people is like entry into crazy town, hence clown-world.
“You can basically determine Mossad membership by seeing who does and doesn’t peddle that to the alt-right. ”
That’s called guesswork on your part.
At the very beginning of Zionism, there was a big argument within Jewry exactly in alignment with your theory.
One group did not want Zion (a country for Jews) as it would put pressure on the successful host/parasite relationship that Jews had evolved. They wanted to hide and be invisible while extracting wealth.
During the Levantine period (Greek), when there was shipping around the Mediterranean, Jews were the g0-to people if you wanted to do trade.
Jews were dispersed in various ports and countries ringing the Mediterranean, and they would take a cut of all transactions. On selling of pirated goods, and slavery were a normal part of business.
The international finance “merchant” evolutionary path was to be diverted by Zionism, where Jews were to become normal citizens within their own country.
The ones that wanted to hide, pointed out that Zion (Israel) would just be another redoubt from which to do international crime. And this redoubt would draw critical examination from other nation-states.
Personally, I am pro-Israel, as I believe there needs to be an escape valve for nations if they want to kick their Jews out. 109
You just dont like the sound of truth,Putin runs a fascist regime,he encourages other fascists across Europe,he even allows neo Nazi trash to do training in Russia,which has been reported,you can look that up if you want see it’ll help you emerge from your bubble,and your silly theses on fascism,why bother with your elaborate nonsense when Putin’s fascism is right under your nose,go study it
If you want to know what fascism and totalitarian indoctrination looks like I’ll present
Alexander Dugin,go look him up,if you support his position,which basically is the position of Putin then you’ll also be a fascist,at least in my book
Made me laugh – and almost cry. There are certainly one or two people we desperately need, to “kick ass” and put things right in the only way which will actually work. But a mythical Jew-Egyptian freak like “Moses” is certainly not one of them.
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/circa-1935-german-dictator-adolf-hitler-picture-id3319331?s=594×594
You appear rather to have missed something – which omission wholly invalidates your reasoning, as follows:
If Jews wanted to live in their “own country” – albeit stolen from someone else – they have now had since 1948 to illustrate this wish honestly and clearly, and to settle their national, religious and cultural lives accordingly. And yet, inexplicably… they live on, in every nation under the sun and especially their chief host, the United States – in fact, in every and any wealthy and feeble-minded country where rackets can be run and money, their only god, can be de-frauded from the lower animals they call goyim.
That being the case, Israel has become exactly no more and no less than you have correctly described – a shameless and undisguised redoubt, or central fortress, from which to organise and supervise the massive ongoing financial crimes which are crippling the western industrialised world – and also, of course, the further rackets of spying and political subversion against every one of them along the way, with Israel then serving also as a guaranteed safe refuge to which all foreign-based operators and conspirators can eventually run whenever their more extreme crimes come to light.
So much for a “homeland” to which they can be “sent” – regardless of the fact that the most rootless, wandering, cosmopolitan and aggressive, noisy, critical, trouble-stirring people on earth have never wanted, nor needed, any such thing – except as a very convenient excuse for an illegitimate haven from proper punishment for their heinous nation-wrecking crimes. Even if their “need” for a nation were genuine – which it most certainly is not – why, in any case, should any other nation or organisation on earth assist them to create a safe haven for themselves which will simply protect and prolong their wrong-doings ?
No one but a cretin makes a compromise with an infestation of vermin. You simply REMOVE it – ruthlessly and permanently.
The Nazis went along with Havarra. The final solution was removal, a divorce.
Who is going to remove the infestation? You?
Russia is much better off now as so many Jews self deported to Israel.
Bravo.
One of the most perfect comments I have ever read here. Every point perfectly made, every example valid, and a perfect comment length for reading and clarity – unlike so many here. Perfect grammatical English also, with not a mis-punctuation or typo in sight.
And two highlights:
Or, as George Orwell said, “if there is hope, it lies with the proles”.
And finally,
Dear God, I hope – and pray – you’re right ! Cometh the hour, cometh the man.
Thank you. And I say again, Bravo !
You’ll excuse me, I’m sure – but a claim such as that needs a solid and provable source, please.
Otherwise, as this is a high-IQ forum, I will simply assume you have been watching too many bad sci-fi movies on Netflix.
There’s DEFINITELY a Bathroom-vibe going down with those goddam cunning, tricksy Omnipotent Putin-Nazi Terrorists, as my bathroom window leaked last night in the thunderstorms – and that’s NOT the first time, so I know they’ve been targeting me all along !
You still haven’t bothered to directly answer my questions. I want you to read the links I provided and tell me where they get it wrong.
I’m interested in your brain functions not Dugin’s.
I’ve read them and i answered you yesterday ,you’ll have to look back and see what i said,i didn’t in my moment of excitement reply to you personally,but who cares,i basically said I’d rather spend time at the local zoo with chimps,I’d probably get more sense,anyway are you a Dugin fascist?
I suspect you probably are,even without understanding it ,since you’re obsessed by Putin
Paul Gottfried is not a libertarian. One of founding paleos. Has very good criticism on early liberalism, ie pre french revolution.
Does Dugin’s writings comport with Mussolini’s definition of fascist? If yes then he is a fascist, if no then he is some other definition.
My obsession with Putin is you making a strawman so you can knock it down.
Your replies are full of denigrating comments.
When “Jews” (Talmudists) express hatred, fear and loathing of Hitler, it’s really an expression of hatred, fear and loathing of the founder of Judaism, Moses. Typical of their pathological projection, they’ve transferred hatred of Jewish Moses to hatred of goyim Hitler. Only they’re to whipped, gutless, greedy and phony to admit they hate the true Jewish faith, which they need as a rationale for their entitled, “chosen” grifter way of life anyway. So they curse “authoritarian” Hitler and curse and spit at Jesus, who is a symbol of Moses’ authoritarian legacy of summarily executing Hebrew grifters.
If that makes them sound as crazy as shithouse rats… yes, they are. And so are the shitlib rats who worship them.
426, I must say that you are the most outrageously demented denialist I’ve seen for some time. I see from your attacks on ‘..irrational concepts of equality and equity..’, that you are the full Rightwing package. I do hope you live in the south-west USA.
Thanks scratchy. Nice to see that you extrapolate from commercial greenhouses to the entire global system. Such candour. I’d better give you another chance-time. Just how quickly do you think we should get to your Nirvana of hot-house Earth CO2 concentrations at 1000ppm? As fast as possible? That will give species a nice selective push to lift their games or go extinct-very ‘survival of the fittest’, that. And what about methane etc-what, no doubt elevated, level would you prefer for those gases? And how high should sea-levels become? Do you stand to make a ‘killing’ on newly ‘sea-front’ property hundreds of miles inland?
Mann’s ‘hockey-stick’ has been replicated hundreds of times by other researchers. That denialist retards seem to think that it is the only such chart neatly illustrates their pig ignorant imbecility and brainwashing. What it illustrates is, in the words of the US Academy of Sciences, ‘settled science’. A hockey-stick distribution just shows an exponential growth or collapse in a given group being described. Lots of that about, as ecological collapse accelerates. Your assertion that the warming has ‘paused’ for six years is typical denialist garbage, but you certainly have the audacity to peddle it.
And lying, that other denialist psychopathy. Thunberg et al never said that the world would end in nine years or whatever. They asserted, three years or so ago, that we had twelve years to start reversing the rush to ecocide, or it would be too late. The actual Near Term Human Extinction event that you denialist psychopaths are slavering for, would come a few decades later, or earlier if war broke out. As for me, I certainly never said that the world would end or reach the point of no return in twelve or nine years-that’s far too optimistic.
Outside of his utter disdain of Jair Bolsonaro Greenwald is the only lefty that seems to have a lick of sense, see the world & his loony leftist brethren for how it is.
Re Gottfried, I ran some searches for “Paul gottfried Jonah Goldberg fascism” because I recalled reading a few of his review essays and rebuttals on sites like lew Rockwell and maybe chronicles back when Goldberg’s book came out (2007? 08?). There was a lot of discussion kicked off by Goldberg’s book. Unfortunately i didn’t find many good hits for ‘mefobills’ or ‘schacht,’ —closest was Luke Ford’s excerpts of Gottfried’s book, which featured this:
https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=129495
On a different note, I also found this report of Gottfried’s guest lecturer appearance at a small college, which I thought was hilarious in an ‘oh man can you believe how crappy things have gotten?!?’ sense. Get this,
https://www.theahi.org/appearance-of-paul-gottfried-sparks-disruptions-at-hamilton-college/
Exactly. Though closer to a thousand miles inland. And 300 feet above current sea level. Barack and Michele have already approached my realtor, having realized that buying a 14 million dollar property on Martha’s Vineyard, just 3 meters above current sea level was not the wisest choice when you’ve just been pushing the rising-sea-level-is going-to-drown-us-all story for a full eight years.
Al Gore is in the same boat, I hear. All you climate crazies are going to enter into a bidding war for my little three-bedroom townhouse. I expect to charge you big bucks just to pitch your tents in my postage-size front yard.
I expect you’re asking because you’re up the same creek, without a paddle. Your little Chinese Consulate in Sydney can’t be that far from the ocean. But don’t worry. The oceans are more likely to freeze before they flood you out.
Here’s your “denialist” pause. Do show us when the world’s temperature was last this low:
https://i0.wp.com/wattsupwiththat.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/image-1.png?resize=1536%2C689&ssl=1
Number one on my most wanted list is Brennan. That demon needs a silver bullet in the worst way. Maybe we can convince Ron to dedicate a thread for the prosecution of the top Deep State criminals? Contributors could lay out the crimes of the Deep State antagonist that they believe most deserves the number one spot and then poll the jury after arguments?
You support Putin!
As they say,if the cap fits 😜
I support Putin because he stopped the West from destroying Russia. As if my support of Putin, or Hitler for that matter is an epithet.
It is not an epithet it is a badge of honor. It’s laughable that you think approval of Putin is somehow bad – an example of the messed up place that is the area between your ears.
Russia at the time of Putin’s installation was in a death spiral, and many Russians were walking around drunk and in despair.
Their country had been bought out and stolen from them by the (((Privatizers))) also known as the Harvard boyeeez.
That the Harvard boyees were also Jews, and most of the Russian privatizing oligarchs were also Jews should come as no surprise. Putin simply taxed them and took away their ill-gotten gains. This was a very civilized way to deal with the theft.
That Putin (and his team) has led Russia to a comeback, and prevented civilizational collapse, and avoided war with the West (who is intent on dismembering Russia) is almost miraculous.
You should turn your cap backwards, to indicate your ignorant and demoralized state.
Nobody who has any sort of empathy should wish the harm that the west visited on Russia in the 90’s.
You consistently do a my team, your team kind of approach and use ad-hominems, rather than addressing actual substance.
Demoralization.
One can admire some of what Putin has done, and be critical of other things. But, that cannot happen in your lowbrow my team your team dialectic.
Thanks for the analysis and links CMC.
Schacht was a “free marketer” and gold-man, but his position evolved over time, so we have to acknowledge that.
Even Schacht’s going along with and promoting BIS settlement mechanism was an attempt to pay off Versailles debts short of war. Ultimately Schacht was not self serving and did have empathy for the German people. Schacht especially came up with methods during the hyperinflation, where he slammed many bankster heads against the wall.
Schacht invented several creative methods for the German economy to flourish, especially in the years leading up to the time he was fired by Hitler in 38.
I allow people who are not economic historians to get things wrong such as Schacht’s evolution, so it looks like Gottfried is still a good read.
Anybody who circles too close to the bulls eye and uncovers the true source of Jewish power, is flamed with the epithet of “hate speaker” and white nationalist.
Today, you can be a hate speaker if you are white-adjacent, meaning you agree to white civilization and patriarchy, even if being non-white.
I’m ordering the book.
Hmmm…Interesting…
You may want to pass that hot lead on to alwayswrite for his dossier.
He seems to specialize in the damnedly devious dastardly depredations of the devious DemonPutin.
The Chinese Consulate is near some of my favourite Lebanese restaurants and cake shops. Not far from Belvoir Street where I saw some great plays, most memorably Geoffrey Rush in your favourite ‘ Diary of a Madman’, by Gogol. What I will miss is the Botanic Gardens where the sea laps through the sea-wall apertures already. Then the Opry House, the rich turds out at Vaucluse etc. All coming, and sooner than you think.
Poor old scratchy-quoting Watts, the Dunning-Krugerite Bible. Sad, not.
Russia doesn’t need the west to destroy itself,as its been destroying itself this last hundred years,Putin will continue,he’ll do so using his KGB methods and obviously you wearing your ‘ special’ cap will think he’s great,when he’s just another sad idiot who came to power of a coup,he supports fascism in the west,he support Dugin so called eurasianist philosophy,and Dugin is an absolute fascist,he doesn’t need Mussolini permission,as for your other delusional stuff,i laugh at it all,Russia has no unique civilisation,its a backwards savage country,any civilisation it got basically came from the west
Eddie has not aged. Have you seen Coming to America 2 yet?
I’m sure Chechnya is fine enough for Muslims as Belarus is for Christians. Except for any fakes in the pay of the CIA who cause disruptions and pro Western globo homo revolutions or ISIS type mercenaries in the pay of the same.
“Therefore, left journalists have a duty to steer clear of arguments or associations that might confer legitimacy on the right.«
That is not a new position, it is based on the word “objectively”, and here are two quotes from George Orwell from a long time ago (1945):
People who have eyes can see things.
Russia was flat on its ass in the 90’s, as it had been put into dollar debts, and there was no middle class.
Oligarchy had arisen. All of the major industries had been subordinated to dollar/euro debts.
Yukos was being transferred to finance capital holders in London, and Russians were being dispossessed of their birthright.
Yes, Putin kicked out the Oligarchs and installed his own Slavic team, who in some cases were allowed to get rich by criminal activity.
Tough shit. The criminality is slowly being dismantled. It is not done over-night.
Russia is not dismantling itself, there are big problems still, but it is on a path where the civilization is renewing itself. This can be plainly be seen in statistics, like military fitness, low external debts, and industrial and farming competence.
People don’t listen to you because you make claims that are belied by facts, and are unwilling to confront you own demoralization.
Mefoballs,you’re living in LaLa land,Russia is one of the most corrupt countries in the world, thats not really progress as Putin has been in power for over twenty years!
The only birthright Russians have is to live in a shit hole under the control of mad autocrats and murderous dictators,this whole system inculcate a sense of indifference and ultimately criminal behaviour because thats the only way you can live in such dismal places such as Russia
If Russia was ” flat on its ass” as you put it in 1990’s it only had itself to blame,nobody else,as it was the biggest and worst exercise in ding bat mad social engineering in human history,and one of the biggest failures,which they still can’t come to terms with hence all the stupid behaviour of Putin to try and make Russia look important,which it isn’t,take its big bang nuclear bombs away from Russia and you’d see it really for what it is,a criminal regime of oligarchs much worse than even Ukraine!
Anyway it doesn’t matter as once Putin has gone the place will fall apart into civil war,good riddance i say
Fully agreed. So is voting of insignificance. So is “news” bits just clutter.
I once described him as a spaghetti spilling, spastic, soyboy, Harry Potter looking motherfucker.
I have yet to be proven wrong.
Reminder that the Guardian is the rag of the TLAs.
This happened before “smashing harddisks”, during the War on Assange (as pursued by other publications such as “The Register”, who follow certain political lines with great assiduity and conformity)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks:_Inside_Julian_Assange%27s_War_on_Secrecy
Indeed Sir. You are spot on.
For years I’ve been waiting for an in-depth description of these ‘crimes’ (and by now they had better be doozies).
The problem is for years they turn out to be the left using the system to hound harmless old men for hair-splitting trivialities with humiliation rituals, uncalled-for imprisonment and the kind of petty vengefulness that get black murderers routinely retrialed or outright sprung should they come to light. Only there are no journalists left on the national-affairs beat worth investing any trust in – just partisan hacks who jam their fingers in their ears to play the I can’t hear you game when the geriatrics locked in cages to “send a message” to Orange Man begin moaning for pity or mercy.
There’s the real threat to American journalism – and justice – but, as addressing them honestly would fracture the Left even further, I’m not holding my breath to hear the topic raised in public.
A Jewish dummkopf called David Rothkopf in his hallucinatory ‘Traitors’ declares that Russia installed Trump in power as the ultimate ‘Manchurian Candidate’. Did end-stage Roman luminaries, even with the lead poisoning, come anywhere near such a level of hysterical insanity?
I think that more or less the same is true for Matt Taibbi. But he might not want to go on Tucker Carlson’s show.
The critical point now is voter fraud in the 2020 Presidential election.
I can’t see how you can ignore this subject altogether and claim to be principled (=morally serious) at the same time. This will be a tough one. Tucker Carlson is at it now. – what will the liberals and libertarians do? Dave Rubin and his pals from the IDW, who still think, that CO-19 would be the most important story out there? Joe Rogan?