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When did parts of the left get so contemptuous of the principle of “bodily autonomy”? Answer: Just about the time they started fetishising vaccines as the only route out of the current pandemic.

Only two years ago most people understood “bodily autonomy” to be a fundamental, unquestionable human right. Now it is being treated as some kind of perverse libertarian luxury, as proof that the “deplorables” have been watching too much Tucker Carlson or that they have come to idealise the worst excesses of neoliberalism’s emphasis on the rights of the individual over the social good.

This is dangerous nonsense, as should be obvious if we step back and imagine what our world might look like had the principle of “bodily autonomy” not been established through centuries of struggle, just as were the right to vote and the right to health care.

Because without the principle of bodily autonomy, we might still be dragging virgins up high staircases so that they could be sacrificed to placate the sun gods. Without the principle of bodily autonomy, we might still be treating black people like animals – chattel to be used and exploited so that a white landowning class could grow rich from their enforced labours. Without the principle of bodily autonomy, we might still have doctors experimenting on those who are “inferior” – Jews, Romanies, Communists, gays – so that “superior races” could benefit from the “research”. Without the principle of bodily autonomy, we might still have the right of men to rape their wives as one of the unwritten marital vows.

Many of these battles and others were won far more recently than most of us care to remember. I am old enough to recall listening in the car on the way to school to “serious” debates on BBC Radio 4 about whether it was justifiable for the courts to presume a husband’s right to rape his wife.

Arguments about whose bodily autonomy has primacy – a woman’s or the foetus she is carrying – are at the heart of ongoing and inflammatory abortion debates in the United States. And protection of bodily autonomy was the main reason why anyone with an ounce of moral fibre opposed the US torture regime that became normalised in the war on brown people known as the “war on terror”.

Bad faith

There is good reason why, in western societies, vaccination uptake is lowest among ethnic minorities. The clues are embedded in the three preceding paragraphs. Powerful nation-states, run by white elites for the benefit of white elites, have been trampling on the bodily autonomy of black and brown people for centuries – sometimes because those elites were indifferent to the harm they were causing, and sometimes because they professed to be helping these “inferior” peoples, such as in the “war on terror’s” promotion of neoliberal “democracy” as the grounds for invading countries whose oil we coveted.

The pretexts change but the bad faith is the same.

Based on their long histories of suffering at the hands of western, colonial states, black and brown communities have every reason to continue assuming bad faith. It is not solidarity, or protecting them, to ignore or trivialise their concerns and their alienation from state institutions. It is ugly arrogance. Contempt for their concerns will not make those concerns evaporate. It will reinforce them.

But of course, there is also something arrogant about treating the concerns of ethnic minorities as exceptional, patronising them by according them some kind of special dispensation, as though they need indulging on the principle of bodily autonomy when the rest of us are mature enough to discard it.

The fact is each generation comes to understand that the priorities of its ancestors were misplaced. Each generation has a powerful elite, or a majority whose consent has been manufactured, that luxuriate in the false certainty that bodily autonomy can be safely sacrificed for a higher principle. Half a century ago the proponents of marital rape argued for protecting tradition and patriarchal values because they were supposedly the glue holding society together. With 50 years’ hindsight, we may see the current debates about vaccine mandates – and the completely unscientific corollary that the unvaccinated are unclean and plague carriers – in much the same light.

The swelling political consensus on vaccine mandates intentionally ignores the enormous spread of the virus after two years of pandemic and the consequent natural immunity of large sections of the population, irrespective of vaccination status. This same consensus obfuscates the fact that natural immunity is most likely to prove longer-lasting and more effective against any variants of Covid that continue to emerge. And the consensus distracts from the inconvenient fact that the short-lived efficacy of the current vaccines means everyone is potentially “unclean” and a plague carrier, as the new variant Omicron is underscoring only too clearly.

No solidarity

The truth is that where each of us stands on the political divide over bodily autonomy says less about how much we prioritise human rights, or the social good, or solidarity with the weak and powerless, and much more about other, far less objectively rational matters, such as:

  • how fearful we are personally about the effects of Covid on ourselves or our loved ones;
  • whether we think the plutocrats that run our societies have prioritised the social good over the desire for quick, profit-making technological fixes, and the appearance of strong leadership and decisive action;
  • how sure we are that science is taking precedence over the interests of pharmaceutical corporations whose profits are booming as our societies grow older and sicker, and whether we think these corporations have captured our regulatory authorities, including the World Health Organisation;
  • whether we think it helpful or dangerous to scapegoat an unvaccinated minority, blaming it for straining health services or for the failure to eradicate a virus that is, in reality, never going away;
  • and, especially in the left’s case, how reassured we are that non-western, official “enemy” governments, such as Cuba, China, Russia and Iran, have thrown most of their eggs into the vaccine basket too – and usually as enthusiastically as western societies.

It is possible, however, that the way our technological, materialist world has evolved, ruled by competitive elites in nation states vying for power, means there was always likely to be a single, global conception of how to end the pandemic: through a quick-fix, magic bullet of either a vaccine or a drug. The fact that nation states – the “good” and “bad” alike – are unlikely to think outside this particular box does not mean it is the only box available, or that this box must be the one all citizens are coerced into.

ORDER IT NOW

Basic human rights do not apply only in the good times. They can’t just be set aside in difficult times like a pandemic because those rights are a nuisance, or because some people refuse to do what we think is best for them. Those rights are fundamental to what it means to live in a free and open society. If we get rid of bodily autonomy while we deal with this virus, that principle will have to be fought for all over again – and in the context of hi-tech, surveillance states that are undoubtedly more powerful than any we have known before.

Coerced vaccination

It is wrong, however, to focus exclusively on bodily autonomy. The undermining of the right to bodily autonomy is slipping into an equally alarming undermining of the right to cognitive autonomy. In fact, these two kinds of autonomy cannot be readily disentangled. For anyone who believes people must be required to take a vaccine will soon be arguing that no one should be allowed to hear information that might make them more resistant to vaccination.

There is an essential problem about maintaining an open and honest debate during a time of pandemic, which anyone who is thinking critically about Covid and our responses to it must grapple with every time they put finger to keyboard. The discourse playing-field is far from level.

Those who demand vaccine mandates, and wish to jettison the principle of bodily autonomy as a “medical” inconvenience, can give full-throated voice to their arguments in the secure knowledge that only a few, isolated contrarians may occasionally dare to challenge them.

But when those who value the principle of bodily autonomy or who blanch at the idea of coerced vaccination wish to make their case, they must hold back. They must argue with one arm tied behind their backs – and not just because they are likely to be mobbed, particularly by the left, for trying to widen the range of arguments under consideration in what are essentially political and ethical debates masquerading as scientific ones.

Those questioning the manufactured consensus – a consensus that intentionally scapegoats the unvaccinated as disease carriers, a consensus that has once again upended social solidarity among the 99 per cent, a consensus that has been weaponised to shield the elites from proper scrutiny for their profiteering from the pandemic – must measure every word they say against the effect it may have on those listening.

Personal calculations

I place a high value on autonomy, of both the cognitive and physical varieties. I am against the state deciding for me what I and you are allowed to think and say, and I am against the state deciding what goes into my and your body without our consent (though I also recognise that I have little choice but to breathe polluted air, drink polluted water, and eat chemically altered food, all of which have damaged my and your immune systems and made us more susceptible to viruses like Covid).

But at the same time, unlike the vaccine mandate mob, I never forget that I am responsible for my words and that they have consequences, and potentially dangerous ones. There are a significant proportion of people who almost certainly need to be vaccinated, and probably regularly, to avoid being seriously harmed by exposure to the virus. Any responsible writer needs to weigh the effect of their words. I do not wish to be responsible for making one person who would benefit from a vaccine more hesitant to take it. I am particularly wary of playing God during a pandemic.

However, my reluctance to pontificate on a subject on which I have no expertise – vaccine safety – does not confer a licence on others to command the debate on other subjects about which they appear to know very little, such as medical and political ethics.

The fact is, however much some people would be best advised to take the vaccine, there is a recognised risk involved, even if we are not supposed to mention it. The long-term safety of the vaccines is unknown and cannot be known for several more years – and possibly for much longer, given the refusal of the drug regulators to release vaccine data for many more decades.

The vaccine technology is novel and its effects on the complex physiology of the human body and the individual vagaries of each of our immune systems will not be fully apparent for a long time. The decision to take a new type of vaccine in these circumstances is a calculation that each individual must weigh carefully for themselves, based on a body they know better than anyone else.

Pretending that there is no calculation – that everyone is the same, that the vaccines will react in the same manner on every person – is belied by the fact that the vaccines have had to be given emergency approval, and that there have been harsh disagreements even among experts about whether the calculation in favour of vaccination makes sense for everyone, especially for children. That calculation is further complicated by the fact that a significant section of the population now have a natural immunity to the whole virus and not just vaccine-induced immunity to the spike protein.

But stuffing everyone into a one-size-fits-all solution is exactly what bureaucratic, technocratic states are there to do. It is what they know best. To the state, you are I and just a figure on a pandemic spread-sheet. To think otherwise is childish delusion. Those who refuse to think of themselves as simply a spread-sheet digit – those who insist on their right to bodily and cognitive autonomy – should not be treated as narcissists for doing so or as a threat to public health, especially when the immunity provided by the vaccines is so short-lived, the vaccines themselves are highly leaky, and there is little understanding yet of the differences, or even potential conflicts, between natural and vaccine-induced immunity.

Perpetual emergency

Nonetheless, parts of the left are acting as if none of this is true, or even debatable. Instead they are proudly joining the mob, leading the self-righteous clamour to assert control not only over the bodies of others but over their minds too. This left angrily rejects all debate as a threat to the official “medical” consensus. They insist on conformity of opinion and then claim it as science, in denial of the fact that science is by its nature disputatious and evolves constantly. They cheer on censorship – by profit-driven social media corporations – even when it is recognised experts who are being silenced.

ORDER IT NOW

Their subtext is that any contrary opinion is a threat to the social order, and will fuel vaccine hesitancy. The demand is that we all become worshippers at the altars of Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca, at the risk otherwise of being denounced as heretics, as “anti-vaxxers”. No middle ground can be allowed in this era of perpetual emergency.

This is not just disturbing ethically. It is disastrous politically. The state is already massively powerful against each of us as individuals. We have collective power only in so far as we show solidarity with each other. If the left conspires with the state against those who are weak, against black and brown communities whose main experiences of state institutions have been abusive, against the “deplorables”, we divide ourselves and make the weakest parts of our society even weaker.

Former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn understood this when he was one of the few on the left to publicly resist the recent move by the UK government to legislate vaccine mandates. He rightly argued that the correct path is persuasion, not coercion.

But this kind of mix of reason and compassion is being drowned out on parts of the left. They justify violations of bodily and cognitive autonomy on the grounds that we are living in exceptional times, during a pandemic. They complacently argue that such violations will be temporary, required only until the virus is eradicated – even though the virus is now endemic and with us for good. They silently assent to the corporate media being given even greater censorship powers as the price we must pay to deal with vaccine hesitancy, on the assumption that we can reclaim the right to dissent later.

But these losses, in circumstances in which our rights and freedoms are already under unprecedented assault, will not be easily restored. Once social media can erase you or me from the public square for stating real-world facts that are politically and commercially inconvenient – such as Twitter’s ban on anyone pointing out that the vaccinated can spread the virus too – there will be no going back.

Political instincts

There is a further reason, however, why the left is being deeply foolish in turning on the unvaccinated and treating the principles of bodily and cognitive autonomy with such contempt. Because this approach sends a message to black and brown communities, and to the “deplorables”, that the left is elitist, that its talk of solidarity is hollow, and that it is only the right, not the left, that is willing to fight to protect the most intimate freedoms we enjoy – over our bodies and minds.

Every time the left shouts down those who are hesitant about taking a Covid vaccine; every time it echoes the authoritarianism of those who demand mandates, chiefly for low-paid workers; every time it refuses to engage with – or even allow – counter-arguments, it abandons the political battlefield to the right.

Through its behaviour, the shrill left confirms the right’s claims that the political instincts of the left are Stalinist, that the left will always back the might of an all-powerful state against the concerns of ordinary people, that the left sees only the faceless masses, who need to be herded towards bureaucratically convenient solutions, rather than individuals who need to be listened to as they grapple with their own particular dilemmas and beliefs.

The fact is that you can favour vaccines, you can be vaccinated yourself, you can even desire that everyone regularly takes a Covid vaccine, and still think that bodily and cognitive autonomy are vitally important principles – principles to be valued even more than vaccines. You can be a cheerleader for vaccination and still march against vaccine mandates.

Some on the left behave as if these are entirely incompatible positions, or as if they are proof of hypocrisy and bad faith. But what this kind of left is really exposing is their own inability to think in politically complex ways, their own difficulty remembering that principles are more important than quick-fixes, however frightening the circumstances, and that the debates about how we organise our societies are inherently political, much more so than technocratic or “medical”.

The right understands that there is a political calculus in handling the pandemic that cannot be discarded except at a grave political cost. Part of the left has a much weaker grasp of this point. Its censoriousness, its arrogance, its hectoring tone – all given cover by claims to be following a “science” that keeps changing – are predictably alienating those the left claims to represent.

The left needs to start insisting again on the critical importance of bodily and cognitive autonomy – and to stop shooting itself in the foot.

(Republished from Jonathan Cook by permission of author or representative)
 
• Category: Ideology • Tags: Anti-Vaxx, Civil Liberties, Coronavirus, The Left 
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  1. Nothing new here: lefties have always been keen to subject people to coercion for their own good, as determined by the lefty.not by the target of the coercion. The latter is unfit to judge, you see. Being a lefty is a disorder of adolescence, as Orwell once pointed out: “Every intelligent boy of 16 is a socialist,” he wrote, “at that age, one does not see the hook sticking out of that rather stodgy bait.” A wise man, was George Orwell.

    • Agree: Kiza
    • Thanks: Emerging Majority
  2. gay troll says:

    The contempt for bodily autonomy, yes, also the contempt for independent thinking, the contempt for freedom of association, and above all, the contempt for children, who without all these things, with their faces hidden away in an expressionless world, will simply not mature, and will be rendered inhumane.

    • Replies: @TKK
    , @Emerging Majority
  3. Just started reading this, J, but I’m glad you say Romany, not Roma. Hope to say something worth saying before too long. Cheers.

  4. lloyd says: • Website

    One should be able to argue that until the Darwinian age, the white “elites” treated the white working class and peasantry worse than they generally treated black and brown people. The sub Saharan slave trade was an exception to that rule. Apart from the slave markets, that was no worse, maybe even marginally more civilised than the Slavic landlord treatment of their serfs. The whites even fought a civil war to end black slavery. A devotion to human rights that was never extended to white people. But the left, not overly interested in objective history, have become hooked on white oppression, brown and black oppressed. Captain Cook never flogged nor made a slave, a coloured person he abducted on his ships. He had no qualms to press ganging a white colonial American in Madeira, and then flogging him for insubordination. The American died on Cook’s ship in an undocumented death which hasn’t appear to have ever bothered anyone. I suppose he was just a deplorable.

    • Replies: @Paladin
    , @Tionico
  5. TKK says:
    @gay troll

    I have interacted with a few people in prison that appeared to operate outside of any moral stop signs.

    Other people were only orifices, nurses or purses to them. A few of these were women.

    But all of them have flat effect. They can turn on a brittle used car salesmen “charm ” ( and remember, charm is a verb. Someone is actively working you.)

    But I always discover some common denominators when I ask about their childhoods:

    1) no books in the home or any reading material
    2) both parents smoked cigarettes in the house and car with no ventilation
    3) no one talked at dinner or even ate together
    4) bizarre punishments, like holding up bags of sugar for one hour or taking baths at the outside hose pipe in January

    You think of those kids who are in these homes, and maybe the smile or warm face of a pretty teacher or classmate was the only thing they held onto when they got back home to the Freak Show.

    All lost.

    Early childhood development bangs incessantly on the criticalness of looking at your babies face and responding back to their facial expressions, cultivating empathy and awareness of others.

    What a horror show… babies who have had no human mirroring or reflection back of their emotions.

    • Agree: S, John Q Duped
    • Replies: @Void
    , @TTSSYF
  6. Baxter says:

    The “left” isn’t going to start insisting on the “critical importance of bodily and cognitive autonomy.” Oh no, my dear man. Much effort has already been invested in the grab for power. The left and its program of consolidated crazy powering it have no intention taking into consideration the welfare of Americans. This organized but chaotic movement to turn America into a one party state is going to continue, the people be damned. For goodness sake, the same people promoting mandatory vaccination are the same people steering America into a conflict with China and Russia.

    • Agree: Realist, John Q Duped
    • Replies: @Donald Duck
  7. Paladin says:
    @lloyd

    Your body, Biden’s choice.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  8. RobinG says:

    GREAT NEWS: the Lefties have signd their own death warrants! Oh, wait……

    Health officials in Harris County, Texas, reported on Monday that a man aged between 50 and 60 had died after testing positive for Omicron.

    The man, who was not named, had previously been infected with COVID-19, health officials said. They added that the patient was “at higher risk of severe complications from COVID-19 due to his unvaccinated status and underlying health conditions.”

    Huh…no herd immunity?

    First Omicron Death in U.S. Was Reinfection—A Warning to Those Who’ve Already Had COVID

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/first-omicron-death-in-u-s-was-reinfection-a-warning-to-those-who-ve-already-had-covid/ar-AAS1b5P?ocid=msedgntp

  9. Wokechoke says:

    Good for Jezza. One can only hope it’s not too late.

  10. I’m sorry. But they aren’t going to back down. They are diamantine adamant, absolutely sure they’re right, they outnumber us sixteen to one, they do not care what they have to do to make us submit, or if we die.

    They surround us everywhere. There is no place to get away, unless you are independently wealthy and have a bunker somewhere.

    They do not give a shit about “bodily autonomy” whatever that means. Concepts mean nothing when the boogie-man is coming.

    Nothing is getting better. None of them are changing their minds. They are getting more hysterical as the days go by, and the whipping-up never stops.

    And I am not talking about liberals here. I am talking about vaxxers.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
    • Thanks: Thor Walhovd
    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
  11. Marcion says:

    Off label drugs and nutricuticals work fantastic against these viruses.
    The experimental, untested innoculations turned out to be not needed. Shots worked somewhat, but other meds and supplements have proven superior in overall effectiveness and, unlike the jab, worked in consort with natural immunity.

    The author’s handwringing would not be necessary had he been paying better attention to results.

  12. By the word-count mechanism in my browser, Mr. Cook used the term “bodily autonomy” 19 times – if you count the title. This relatively new term is presented here as “a fundamental, unquestionable human right”, and it is hammered home with repetitive gusto.

    “Body Integrity” is sometimes used as a synonym, and it turns up in a pre-covid analysis I found from 2015.

    Protecting the Public: A Guide for Physicians, Healthcare Providers and Attorneys on Quarantining and Isolating Patients With Communicable Diseases
    https://higherlogicdownload.s3.amazonaws.com/MICHBAR/f8a8a213-d7d6-49c4-bdff-e6c7a728e471/UploadedImages/pdfs/Protecting%20the%20Public.%20A%20Guide%20for%20Physicians%20Healthcare%20(H0337859xA16D5).pdf

    Back in 1905 the Supreme Court addressed the issue of personal freedom vs public health, and came down squarely in the corner of public health. Recall that there were no fancy safety tests back then, and that fatal reactions to the Cowpox Faccine were not unknown. It’s my impression the reason this vaccination program was finally discontinued was the discovery that once Smallpox had been well controlled, the vaccine deaths were no longer acceptable. Hopefully this will also someday be the case with Covid vaccines. At the present time, that’s definitely not the case.

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/353655

  13. anonymous[312] • Disclaimer says:

    Ziona Greenwald in the Times of Israel, compares discrimination against unvaccinated people, even there in Jonathan Cook’s Jewish homeland, to the early stages of 1930s-40s Third Reich actions against Jews – saying that Nazi crimes against Jews took place in stages, earlier stages being social shaming and de-humanisation, just like is being done now against the unvaccinated … ‘This is how it happens’
    https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/this-is-how-it-happens/
    Meanwhile, samurai-heritage based Japan, has declared protection of full rights for the unvaccinated. Website of Japan’s Prime Minister:

    Vaccines will never be administered without the recipient’s consent. We urge the public never to coerce vaccinations at the workplace or upon others around them, and never to treat those who have not received the vaccine in a discriminatory manner.

    https://dailysceptic.org/2021/12/21/do-not-discriminate-against-the-unvaccinated-japanese-government-tells-citizens/

  14. I’ve said for decades that if you can’t say “No”, without fear of retribution or punishment, then you’re nothing more than a slave.

    • Agree: Emerging Majority
  15. Hitmarck says:

    And protection of bodily autonomy was the main reason why anyone with an ounce of moral fibre opposed the US torture regime that became normalised in the war on brown people known as the “war on terro

    Torture. Nürnberg.
    You are so civilized it is beyond believe.

  16. Poslan says:

    The example of marital rape used too much, just as if there are not too many other examples, like, for instance, without the principle of bodily autonomy courts could still make men pay alimony for someones kids or support ex-wives, like it was some kind of patriarchial custom.
    Oh, wait.

    • Agree: Vinnyvette
  17. Although I agree with many of your arguments, I still think it is no longer relevant to continue to use outdated political categories such as “Left” and “Right.”

    I would argue that since the Fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989, these categories have become increasingly meaningless, although they are still widely used. Perhaps it is also useful to bear in mind that, when they still had some significance before that event, the points of view of extremist proponents of both currents were strikingly similar, especially regarding the use of state coercion and violence and the rights of the individual.

    What is called “the Left” today, at least in England and Europe, is Social Democracy and its proponents: the leftovers of what once were big and powerful political parties with a numerous and active membership. Parties such as Labour, SPD, PSOE, PSI, PS, etc.

    I would agree with Stalin and call these parties “Social Fascists.” After all, in the early days of their existence, such as has been demonstrated concerning the SPD, these parties attracted ruthless careerists from the middle classes, who would be prepared to go to great lengths for personal advancement under the guise of commitment to broader social and political issues.

    After the US conquest and occupation of Western Europe in 1944-1945, the Social Democrats became the choice collaborators of the US government. That is why, after the Fall of the Berlin Wall, all those idealist Social Democrats have adopted the neoliberal gospel. Now they are ideologically indistinguishable from traditional liberals and conservatives. One might say that today all those Social Democrats are no longer “Red Fascists” but “Green Fascists.”

    The true divide in the political landscape, I would argue, is the role one sees for the state and the forces that manage the state in their interest: a very, very small group of powerful bankers, major CEOs and NGO bosses.

    Individuals, as well as political and social organisations that support all the neofascist states in the “West” (US, England, EU, Canada, Australia, NZ) are all just fascists. These states hold human rights no higher than Communist China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia and other such states.

    In conclusion, I would argue that the true divide in the political landscape is one’s position regarding individual rights. Hence it would seem there is a division between Fascists and “anarcholiberals.” The latter term is rather awkward and imprecise, but I could think of no better one for the moment.

    • Thanks: Emerging Majority
    • Replies: @Donald Duck
  18. Tucker says:

    I had a momentary surge of enthusiasm when I saw the headline of this article, but when I began to read it – I quickly lost interest, when I recognized it as just another virulently anti-White smear and demonization propaganda piece, cleverly woven into, and wrapped around, the scamdemic and the totalitarian impulses of left wing Communists who disguise themselves as ‘Democrats’.

    It’s more of the same viciously anti-White guilt-tripping crap we’ve been hearing from the lamestream media (((owners))) for the last 60 to 70 years. Whitey is Evil. Whitey is Bad. Whitey is the Enemy of everyone who isn’t White. And, especially the enemy of the Self Chosen. Ad nauseum.

    Meanwhile, let’s remember who are the primary peddlers of these dangerous vaccines:

    DIRECTOR: ROCHELLE WALENSKY (JEWISH)
    DEPUTY DIRECTOR: ANNE SCHUCHAT (JEWISH)
    CHIEF OF STAFF: SHERI BERGER (JEWISH)
    CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER (MITCHELL WOLFE (JEWISH)
    DIRECTOR WASHINGTON : JEFF RECZEK (JEWISH)
    ANDY SLAVITT- COVID SENIOR ADVISER (JEWISH)
    JEFF ZIENTS-COVID CZAR (JEWISH)
    PFIZER CEO: ALBERT BOURLA (JEWISH)
    MODERNA’S VACCINE CREATOR: TAL ZAKS (JEWISH)
    JOHNSON & JOHNSON CEO: ALEX GORSKY (JEWISH)
    ASTRAZENECA CEO: PASCAL SORIOT (JEWISH)
    ASS SEC HEALTH:RACHEL LEVINE (JEWISH)

    So, for all of these vax hesitant black and brown folks – you might want to adjust your thinking about who can’t be trusted to talk you into taking the jabs.

    • Agree: Vinnyvette
    • Replies: @Vinnyvette
  19. Dumbo says:

    There is no Left and Right anymore.

    There are only insane politicians serving Satan.

    • Thanks: Thor Walhovd
  20. Without the principle of bodily autonomy, we might still have doctors experimenting on those who are “inferior” so that “superior races” could benefit from the “research”.

    That’s precisely the character of the deployment of the gene-altering injections. Just like the longer-running experiments in how the wholesale poisoning of water, food and the air affects public and individual health.

    As has been the case throughout the corporate globalization era, the “superior” are the globalists, technocrats, “science/expert/professional” priesthood and of course the wealthy, the “inferior” are the people. The benefits of the research are maximal power and profit, and religious pseudo-edification for the true-believer cultists.

    The vast majority of the apostate “left”, who of course have neither power nor profit nor any rational expectation of attaining these, are among the diehard technocratic cultists who want the experiment done for its own sake even though they themselves will be consumed by it.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
  21. Dumbo says:
    @RobinG

    There is no “herd immunity” for the common cold either.
    The idea of “herd immunity” was a lie pushed to make people take the vaccine and think it would “end the pandemic”.
    Since no one believes that anymore, now they will push other lies.
    The “vaccine” also doesn’t do much for the supposed Omicron.
    Recently a double (or triple) vaccinated celebrity died from Covid.
    There are more cases of hospitalized vaxxed than unvaxxed.
    And the “vaxxed” can become “unvaxxed” again after mere six months…
    Of course, the next “variant” will be “worse”, and new monthly vaccines or boosters will be needed.
    Repeat ad infinitum.

    If by now you don’t understand that you’re being played, there is no hope for you.

    • Agree: Robjil, TTSSYF, Realist, Liza
    • Replies: @RobinG
    , @RobinG
  22. It’s shameful, alls can remembers that with Trump still in power, the pandemic killed Americans by the thousands and no one ever protested. You remember it?
    Then millions of dollars were given away to produce miraculous vaccines and no one ever protested. It was said that the gift of those billions of dollars was justified as the only hope against covid19. You remember it?
    So you must also remember that as soon as Trump left power it was that the anti-vaccine campaigns began.

    • Disagree: GazaPlanet
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    , @Dystopian
  23. Void says:
    @TKK

    You described me perfectly. But there’s more to those people. They’re in the feminine mode of everchanging moral. I am on the ethical side.

  24. Void says:

    If they just take their fucking jabs themselves and ,5g rolls in I am happy

  25. Void says:

    And no there’s not even a fucking virus except for those pushing their poison.

    • Troll: Realist
  26. Franz says:

    Once social media can erase you or me from the public square

    Social media needs to create a “public square” and, even though conservatives hate to hear it, this means the governments of the world are going to have to admit that digital is important enough to force the creation of a public media. One that cannot be stolen by tech TOS but actually belongs to, and is run as, a government service. Think of facebook google and wiki as the first models and let a government department set it up.

    It’ll hurt. But the Department of the Interior kept government land safe for a century. This is no different.

  27. Funny how Hepatitis-C and HIV were not reasons “to stigmatise people” or to “discriminate” and joining the military is no longer a problem……….but not having Pfizer/Moderna/Mengele Mix gets you discharged, ostracised, persecuted, expelled from job……….

    • Agree: Robjil
  28. roonaldo says:

    It’s heartening to hear a liberal argue for injections through persuasion rather than coercion, but the experimental gene therapies should never have received emergency use authorization.

    Mr. Cook admits admits to no expertise in virology, which allows him to ignore this reckless use of technical science, a dangerous crime against humanity for which Nuremburg trials should be convened. It allows him to say there is short-lived immunity conveyed by the “vaccines” rather than none at all, and to accept alike the multivaxxed and unvaxxed rather than admit that the experimental therapeutics should have been disallowed.

    Many are the viroligists and immunologists who warned and continue to warn gainst these mRNA and adenovirus-vectored therapies, but they have been steamrolled by big money, big power, big pharma, and big media.

    And there’s no lack of lackeys. Fauci the Fuhrer promised a swift and devastating take-down of the naysayers and Biden the Puppet calls them immoral. Meanwhile Dumb-Donald touts his booster, Moneybag Bill spreads the lucre, and Zuck the Schmuck censors the metaverse.

    It may look bleak, but as we say here in the hinterlands, “It ain’t over, Rover.” Keep the faith, friends–keep fightin’, and have a Merry Christmas.

    • Agree: Thor Walhovd
    • Thanks: Void
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    , @Abbybwood
  29. onebornfree says: • Website

    “This is dangerous nonsense, as should be obvious if we step back and imagine what our world might look like had the principle of “bodily autonomy” not been established through centuries of struggle, just as were the right to vote and the right to health care.”

    Oh my, this clueless Brit believes he has some kind of a natural”right” to health care. “At whose expense?” one might well ask.

    And so it goes….

    “Regards” onebornfree

    “Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure” Robert LeFebre

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  30. BlackC says:

    Anyone who believes that
     a) the Left will accept anything but their own double standards, and
     b) the Right will actually hold the Left to the Left’s rules,
    believes that they can still vote their country back to normalcy and health.

    That boat has sailed; only the fourth box remains.

    • Replies: @Realist
  31. @traducteur

    The left has never advocated for bodily integrity for the unborn. It’s been an extremely short slope to slip down.

    Murdering infants to obtain fetal tissue for vaccine research:
    https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/11/04/annamaria-cardinalli-interview-murdering-infants-to-obtain-fetal-tissue-for-vaccine-research/

    America’s Frontline Doctors agree: murdered infants at the heart of vaccine research:
    https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/tag/medical-infanticide/page/2/

    MORE: https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/tag/medical-infanticide/

    • Replies: @The Real World
  32. alphas says:

    “If they push for vaccine mandates and enforce a global dystopia, we win.”

    Yeah… i am feeling soooo glad now that the majority doesn’t approve with this but will happily participate in it anyway.

    Like the people who got the clot shot – because they believed the government that lied to them for more than one year – then it didn’t work and the government started to shill for booster – so they said they would not get the boosters – and now they line up to get the booster while they say at the same time that they actually don’t want to.

    Those people are worthless. The majority is worthless. Even if they would secretly vote for our case, it does not matter because elections don’t matter.
    I am done with those people.
    If your government locks you in and threatens you with draconian measures for two years and you still follow their orders, you are worthless.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
  33. This article was disgustingly anti-white.

    “Hey, did you know I’m right because all throughout history, white men have been scum and trodden on the poor widdle jew and blacks and wimmens”.

    Puke. As if we don’t get enough of that crap from all the mainstream media. Is this author trying to impress the left by sucking up to their morality in this way?

    • Agree: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @Rahan
  34. Jim Crint says:

    “and, especially in the left’s case, how reassured we are that non-western, official “enemy” governments, such as Cuba, China, Russia and Iran, have thrown most of their eggs into the vaccine basket too – and usually as enthusiastically as western societies.”

    I would just like to point out that in the case of China this is not true. China is using the full spectrum of deterrents which result in its now being the only country which prioritises its population with a zero Covid policy. Just three deaths have been recorded since the initial lockdowns were released about 18 months ago. Deaths per million population, 3: many western countries over 2,000 now. As well as vaccines:
    strict entry control with up to 21 days quarantine. Foreigners basically can get in only with a work permit
    local lockdowns to clear up spasmodic outbreaks which all originate outside the country
    a test and trace system which works
    green code on mobile phones bearing test and vaccination records
    massive testing when an occurrence theatens to spread. A few months ago here in Shenzhen all 17 million were tested three weeks running and the outbreak was controlled.
    So life has been virtually normal for a year and a half. It can be done.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  35. Jim Crint says:

    “and, especially in the left’s case, how reassured we are that non-western, official “enemy” governments, such as Cuba, China, Russia and Iran, have thrown most of their eggs into the vaccine basket too – and usually as enthusiastically as western societies.”

    I would just like to point out that in the case of China this is not true. China is using the full spectrum of deterrents which result in its now being the only country which prioritises its population with a zero Covid policy. Just three deaths have been recorded since the initial lockdowns were released about 18 months ago. Deaths per million population, 3: many western countries over 2,000 now. As well as vaccines:
    strict entry control with up to 21 days quarantine. Foreigners basically can get in only with a work permit
    local lockdowns to clear up spasmodic outbreaks which all originate outside the country
    a test and trace system which works
    green code on mobile phones bearing test and vaccination records
    massive testing when an occurrence theatens to spread. A few months ago here in Shenzhen all 17 million were tested three weeks running and the outbreak was controlled.
    So life has been virtually normal for a year and a half. It can be done.

  36. “The fact is, however much some people would be best advised to take the vaccine, there is a recognised risk involved…..”

    Note the ‘Cook technique’, he ASSUMES some would be best advised to take the vaccine, he doesn’t even BEGIN to defend this assumption.

    And how does Cook know that ‘some’ would be ‘best advised’ to take the vaccine? How does he know that?

    In fact he DOESN’T KNOW THAT.

    But nobody will call him out on that, because it’s supposed to be ‘received knowledge’, so he doesn’t even TRY to defend his assertion. He knows what he is doing, he’s a professional media critic.

  37. Wokechoke says:
    @Liborio Guaso

    The first anti vaccine rhetoric was Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi. Situational Nihilism.

    • Replies: @Grasshopper Kaplan
  38. ariadna says:

    “There are a significant proportion of people who almost certainly need to be vaccinated, and probably regularly, to avoid being seriously harmed by exposure to the virus.”

    There are [sic] a significant proportion of serious scientists who think these mRNA vaccines should not be given to anybody, much less “regularly.”

    As for “the left” loses,” the “right” gains, Cook is spewing nonsense that perpetuates the lie of a supposed significant dichotomy between the party of the Low Heels vs the HIGH Heels.
    His nonsense is stuffed with more nonsense prepackaged in limited hangout gift boxes, e.g.:
    — “one size fits all” — the idea that the vaccine mandates are wrong because they do not allow for exceptions, supposedly jabbing the vulnerable (co-morbidities, low immunity) with the spike protein poison that will disable their T-cell immunity will protect them.
    In his defense, Cook may not do this to deceive. He may have ingested too many lies for too long and become infected and not even know it.
    JP has a much better understanding of the whole game and excellent advice for those playing it and, unlike Cook, he is thoroughly entertaining.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpmSvlu4lDo

    • Replies: @Fart Blossom
    , @Numa
  39. TTSSYF says:
    @TKK

    A digression from the commentary: Your comment reminds me about what I read about the D.C. sniper, John Muhammed, and how he and his siblings were abused when they were growing up. “Our life was pure hell,” said Aurolyn Marie Williams, one of Muhammad’s sisters. “We just got beat. I wouldn’t wish the life I had … on my worst enemy.” She said all six Williams children were beaten with electrical cords, switches, hose pipe and by hands.

    “We didn’t know anything but beatings,” said Bessie Williams, Muhammad’s oldest sibling. “We were raised like animals.” Another relative once forced Muhammad “to place his hand on the spark plug of a lawnmower” and pulled the cord. “It would shock the sh– out of him, and they would just laugh in the yard,” Edward Williams said.

    Granted, he might have turned into a sociopathic serial killer even if he had been raised by Ward and June Cleaver, and he deserved execution, but the sick abuse he suffered from apparently all directions — family, relatives, neighbors — sure didn’t help.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  40. TTSSYF says:
    @Marcion

    I think the author is wringing his hands over the increasing likelihood that experimental, untested inoculations will be forced on everyone, regardless of the results showing that the jab is ineffective and not needed and that early treatment and supplements are superior in overall effectiveness.

  41. Nuclear war between Russia and America would create less problems than the war on covid.

    • Replies: @Che Guava
  42. Wokechoke says:
    @RobinG

    50-60…heart disease and diabetes? One foot in the grave.

  43. Wokechoke says:
    @roonaldo

    Corbyn is an antiSemitic left winger. Stop calling the vaccine pedlars Fuhrers or Fascists. Mengele did nothing wrong.

    • Replies: @roonaldo
  44. Herald says:

    It’s now way more than obvious that the ongoing attempts to vaccinate each and every one of us have little if anything to do with protection from a viral infection. The Covid vaccines are the first step along the road to a transhumanised future for what is left of humanity. This short subtitled testimony from a Spanish speaking doctor tells us exactly the direction in which we are heading.

    https://rumble.com/vppv0h-dr.-luis-de-benito-shares-part-of-his-report-on-the-mac-address-phenomenon-.html

    • Thanks: Rahan
  45. Rahan says:

    Well, blimey, another leftie belatedly realizing his “movement” has been hijacked by psychopaths, crooks, and zombies.

    Trump forced this hard and unpalatable realization upon the sane rightwing; Carlson is driving this home every day, and across the pond, the likes of Farage.

    God willing, now the great reset is forcing a similar realization upon the sane leftwing and they will generate their own Carlsons and Farages. They will also likely look “uncouth” and “grubby” and “madcap”, but that’s because the shiny mainstream has been completely hijacked.

  46. @Marcion

    I was going to make a similar comment. Jonathan seems to miss this one point. Also, a combination of public health messaging on what it takes to maintain a healthy immune system, and exploration of cheap prophylactics and therapeutics would have saved many lives. I suspect that Big Pharma and their MSM shills are aware of this, and are frankly guilty of mass murder.

  47. Wokechoke says:
    @TTSSYF

    Black families are sadistic. Imagine doing that with spark plugs…what kind of evil mind?

  48. Realist says:

    The Left’s Contempt for Bodily Autonomy During the Pandemic Is a Gift to the Right

    I disagree…because the Left, and the Right, use double standards. But if it were a gift, the dumb bastards on the Right would never take advantage of it.

  49. Che Guava says:

    The headline says it all.

    You can kick this man out of the ‘Guardian’, but you can’t kick the Guardianista out of him.

  50. Realist says:
    @BlackC

    Agreed. Democracy: The form of government where shit for brains are elected by shit for brains.

    • Agree: Liza
  51. “Because without the principle of bodily autonomy, we might still be dragging virgins up high staircases so that they could be sacrificed to placate the sun gods. Without the principle of bodily autonomy, we might still be treating black people like animals – chattel to be used and exploited so that a white landowning class could grow rich from their enforced labours.”

    Not seeing the problem here….

    “Without the principle of bodily autonomy, we might still have doctors experimenting on those who are “inferior” – Jews, Romanies, Communists, gays – so that “superior races” could benefit from the “research”.

    Would we be hooking them up to the lethal masturbation machines,chucking them in cages with a trained eagle and bear wrestling tag team duo, boiling them alive like lobsters in imaginary “steam chambers”,killing and incinerating them at the same time on physically impossible electrified conveyor belts, creating walls made of their eyeballs,subjecting them to homicidal Rube Goldberg machines, and gassing them to death with aerosolized human skin lampshades, burying them in a marsh next to our water supply and then digging them up again a couple of months later to burn them on open air barbecue pits,using nothing but putrefied female jews as kindling as well,Johnathan?

    You reckon without bodily autonomy we’re going to see that sort of thing? Or just “unethical medical experiments” performed by THE SAME MAN on all of the millions of jewish “survivors” over a period of about 4 years,who personally met and performed a 1 on 1 medical experiment on unwilling living jews lasting however many hours, for which the only documentation is the “survivor’s” word and the results of a STOOL SAMPLE written in German and waved around as proof of things like sewing a living person’s head on backwards,removing one person’s skin and sewing it onto another person and vice versa,or resurrecting the dead Frankenstein-style.

    “Without the principle of bodily autonomy, we might still have the right of men to rape their wives as one of the unwritten marital vows.”

    Oh damn,you mean when women enter into a legal contract to be able to manage a man’s estate in exchange for producing children for him and raising them,she might have to hold up her end of the bargain instead of just taking all of his money and absconding with it in exchange for nothing?

    That would be terrible.

    • Thanks: Vinnyvette
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Wokechoke
  52. roonaldo says:
    @Wokechoke

    Get a grip, man–“fuhrer” means leader, with a dash of authorianism. You took the leap into a mental stew of fascism and Mengele, along with a dreamy side dish of Corbyn the Barbarian.

    • Replies: @roonaldo
    , @Wokechoke
  53. Anon[159] • Disclaimer says:

    Jonathan attempts to display his woke bona fides by smearing Whites and mischaracterizing history in his lead in.

    Hey Jonathan, knock it off. Lies repeated don’t make them true, and your attempt to curry favor with the Evil ones doesn’t do anything but show your weakness and fear.

    “Hey Jews, look at me, I can talk your points!”

    It won’t get you anything from them.

    It is selling your soul to the Devil, JC. The other JC did not do it. I know… look what they did to Him. At least He kept His soul.

  54. roonaldo says:
    @roonaldo

    That’s “authoritarianism.”

  55. Rahan says:
    @Tartious Spengelton

    Is this author trying to impress the left by sucking up to their morality in this way?

    The man is an old-school leftie who wrote for the Guardian before they went completely insane. Or what he thought back then was completely insane; little did he know this was just the start.

    And in his quest to wake up some borderline sane leftists, he’s using “uniting code gibberish” just like some of today’s rightwingers are hoping to reach people with potential for waking up by using the approved code about “China hates our freedoms and masturbated to death six million Uighurs” and “Israel is our best friend” and similar uniting code gibberish.

    You want to reach sleeping rightwingers, you gotta sugarcoat your thing with evil China and saintly Israel.

    You want to reach sleeping leftwingers, you gotta sugarcoat with evil whites and saintly blacks and lurking Putin under the bed.

    At least this is the way some people do it on both sides.

  56. Hello, Jonathan Cook. What is this “principle of bodily autonomy” you speak of? I have not finished reading your essay, but I hope that before long you will stop to define this term.

  57. Che Guava says:
    @Mackie Messer

    That is an interesting overstatement, but I am sure that none of us have seen such a spiteful and baseless hoax before.

  58. Emslander says:

    (T)he left sees only the faceless masses, who need to be herded towards bureaucratically convenient solutions(.)

    To put it another way, the dominant group always wants the shortcut of treating all of the less powerful in exactly the same manner. It’s just easier. They want us to accept predictable damage, like the deaths or illnesses of a percentage of the subjects so treated, as merely collateral, not to be noted.

    This approach dismisses the efforts of many people to live naturally, building up their general health by eating and conducting themselves physically in such a way that they are immune from just such an eventuality as a novel virus. This approach to governing has the additional benefit of denying the spiritual component of the human person. If I believe that I have a spiritual immunity to sickness, I ought to have the right to act on that belief. In both cases, I may be mistaken, but it’s my right as a being created with free will to live on those assumptions. Those who fear me because they believe only in the government’s communal and secular solutions can take their own individual precautions. I don’t care if I’m shunned by my mindless former acquaintances.

    With this approach, we learn much about other people, our elites and our strengths. After all, those who have made the most prudent decisions over time are less burdensome on the general welfare and everyone will be rewarded by our remaining free from personal violations.

    We have to be able to live free or die, for the good of the nation.

  59. Beb says:

    Amen, brother Jonathan. Well written.

  60. @RobinG

    The article says the man “died after testing positive for Omicron”. It doesn’t say what he actually died of.

    We’ve seen this six million times already; a person, usually elderly, goes into the hospital for some serious, pre existing health issue. While there it’s “discovered” that they also have the Covid virus. If the person dies, they are listed as………..”died after testing positive for Covid”, which is technically true, but says nothing of what actually killed the person.

    Remember, the Italian ministry of health admitted a couple of months ago that only around 5% of “covid deaths” were people who had actually died of covid itself.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  61. RobinG says:
    @Dumbo

    The idea of “herd immunity” was a lie pushed to make people take the vaccine ….

    Was that your idea? Herd immunity was also the belief that catching the virus would let everyone develop antibodies, hence the “Covid parties” where people exposed themselves. And the resistance to mitigation measures by those who advocated ‘business as usual’ and let the weaker be killed off. To quote your coreligionist Wokechoke, “50-60…heart disease and diabetes? One foot in the grave.” I.E., tough luck, sucker!

    • Replies: @Dumbo
  62. Remember, Tuskegee is an HBCU. Just sayin’.

  63. @obwandiyag

    Let me offer you some white pills my friend.

    We’re not “outnumbered sixteen to one” , we unvaxxed are around 25 – 30% of the population. Quite possibly more than that because we can assume the media is lying.

    Parents, particularly black and brown ones, are not getting their kids vaxxed at nearly the rate that adults were. Where I live, only around 30% of 5 – 12 year olds are vaxxed, and that number is according to the media so it may be much less than that.

    Fewer people have taken the second dose than the first, and fewer still will take the third. Many people took the first thinking that would be it. They didn’t agree to a lifetime subscription to Pfizer boosters. With each booster roll out, more people will say no.

    Other than true believer NPC types and elderly hypochondriacs, people in general are becoming more, not less, skeptical of the whole thing. Even if you don’t believe that the vaccine program is designed to cull the population, you can see that the vaccines seem to be pretty much useless at stopping covid.

    All we have to do is hang in there and be strong. In the coming months, there will be more and more “anti vaxxers” out there joining us.

    We’re the OG anti vaxxers ; )

    • Replies: @Dr. Krieger
  64. Wokechoke says:
    @AbrahamSteinblattbaumstein

    Goes to show how feeble Cook is. I have to give Corbin a little credit here though.

  65. Wokechoke says:
    @roonaldo

    You are using Antifascist tropes. The left are implementing these coercive measures not the evil evil evil nazis. Conservatives will just go along with the submission like good little cuckolds.

    • Replies: @roonaldo
  66. Altai says:

    What’s even more surreal to me was watching what side was the ‘left wing’ and what side was the ‘right wing’ one changing in real time.

    At the beginning closing borders was right wing and covid being ‘just the flu’ was the left wing position.

    Then vaccines were the right wing way to end all the social sacrifice through lockdowns. And such rapid development being dangerous was the left wing position. Then Trump lost and suddenly the vaccines developed during his term were now left wing.

    Biden and Harris were literally tweeting out their concerns about the vaccines during the campaign.

  67. @Paladin

    You are right. Authoritarians are popping up all over the globe after this lab created pandemic was let loose.
    What I find offensive about this article by Jonathan is his selective reading of it and confining it to just a human rights issue.
    The fact that covid patients and doctors were and are still not advised about about treatment, vitamins etc. until they are admitted is a crime. This was used to make the body count go up.
    The collaboration of politicians, big pharma and media in actively withholding/falsifying real and tested therapeutics like Ivermectin, D3, zinc etc.
    Even in this article, Jonathan doesn’t say how harmless Omicron is compared to the Delta.
    I honestly feel it’s time for every journalist to push for persecuting Fauchi, Baric, Dazak and the WHO for misleading the world and pushing vaccines.
    If this is not done we will never come out of this nightmare.

    • Agree: Liza
    • Replies: @Boomeritis
  68. @traducteur

    Indeed, the issue is that the “left” hates nature, but this flaw is matched by the “right’s” own hatred of nature, as both want to control that which they are afraid, which includes each other.

    This analysis speaks to the breakthroughs that Wilhelm Reich observed from his clinical practice and where it should be noted that it Communist Party sympathizers, and through organs such as the New Republic that pushed the attacks against Reich which resulted in the FDA destroying 6 tons of Reich’s books back in the 1950’s and sending him to jail to die.

    Reich did see that natural conservative of the type he found amongst farmers in Maine, in contact with nature, were not as armored as other people, could understand his functional approach to science, as their perceptions were not shut down by ideas reflecting fear as that is the norm amongst the ‘woke” as well as the apologist for Zionism amongst the so called “Christian” right, manipulated by the elites.

  69. anon[381] • Disclaimer says:

    This is a helpful article. Medical experimentation is the most absolute prohibition in the most universal human rights instrument, the UDHR. Voluntary consent to medical experimentation, ICCPR Article 7, is not a derogable right.

    Human rights treats coercive medical experimentation as torture. Emergency public health derogations of other rights like travel or speech are subject to strict standards including HRC General Comment 34. Ask any shitlib vax nazi how their hate speech comports with GC 34, and their tongues will loll. Like all US party adherents, Democrats are pig-ignorant of human rights. They come out and tell you that their rights are bullshit. Because all these lemmings know how to do is pick sides and fight each other.

    As eminent humanitarian Jonathan Cook knows, a human rights perspective imposes consistency and coherence on your ethical reasoning. But for completeness, you have to look beyond human rights.

    A crucial factor in this episode of mass medical experimentation is the terminal corruption of the US public health apparat. Oligopoly racketeers have bribed and captured regulators to imposed medical experimentation based on false claims of unprecedented scope.

    https://anthraxvaccine.blogspot.com/2021/12/it-is-embarrassing-cdc-struggles-to.html

    CDC’s most active and lucrative criminal enterprise is banned biological weapons development, as our host Ron Unz has shown. SARS-COV-2 is more than the crime against humanity of mass medical experimentation. This also constitutes the crime of aggression: undeclared war using banned biological weapons and toxins, the most indiscriminate and disproportionate mass destruction weapons ever used.

    Your underlying problem is, the US government is a criminal enterprise. It has forfeited its sovereignty in grave, unjustifiable crime. To address the problem of SARS-COV-2 we have to dismantle this state and punish state criminals to the full extent of state responsibility and international criminal law. Incremental reforms will do nothing.

    Meanwhile, if you’re having trouble with recovering shitlibs, just put them on a twelve steps program with the minimal standards of the civilized world, here

    https://ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/UniversalHumanRightsInstruments.aspx

    Face it, you’re stuck in a pathetic backwater of indoctrinated ignoramuses, an undeveloped country, call it the Fifth World. That’s why you put up with all this shit.

  70. Wokechoke says:
    @Altai

    Precisely. It’s situational nihilism.

  71. @Marcion

    This is exactly what I wrote in this same thread——

    What I find offensive about this article by Jonathan is his selective reading of it and confining it to just a human rights issue.
    The fact that covid patients and doctors were and are still not advised about about treatment, vitamins etc. until they are admitted is a crime. This was used to make the body count go up.
    The collaboration of politicians, big pharma and media in actively withholding/falsifying real and tested therapeutics like Ivermectin, D3, zinc etc.
    Even in this article, Jonathan doesn’t say how harmless Omicron is compared to the Delta.
    I honestly feel it’s time for every journalist to push for persecuting Fauchi, Baric, Dazak and the WHO for misleading the world and pushing vaccines.
    If this is not done we will never come out of this nightmare.

    • Agree: Marcion
  72. Only two years ago most people understood “bodily autonomy” to be a fundamental, unquestionable human right? Then why the objections to abortion? What hypocrisy.

  73. @anonymous

    The Japanese are allowed to use Ivermectin, no lockdown, while S Korea is in lockdown.

  74. @Bard of Bumperstickers

    Over the years, I’ve read (we all have) so many articles and comments related to reproductive choices, abortion, when life begins and on and on. In doing so, you’d think people would become more educated about those matters but, I observe that they have not.

    Will we EVER talk like halfway intelligent and reasonable adults about these matters? Can anything be remotely solved regarding those issues until we do? Can people ever manage to get even the simple basics right?

    Twice you mention: “infants”. A fetus in the womb is not an infant. How do you not know that? And the fact that you claim abortion is “murder” is very revealing of your choice to devolve into over-emotionalism rather than utilizing intellect and reasoning.

    Here, read and digest:
    Pregnancy. The development of a zygote into an embryo and then into a fetus in preparation for childbirth.
    Infancy. The earliest part of childhood. It is the period from birth through age one.
    Toddler years. Occur during ages two and three and are the end of early childhood.
    Childhood. Takes place from ages four to eight.
    Puberty. The period from ages nine to thirteen, which is the beginning of adolescence.
    Older adolescence. The stage that takes place between ages fourteen and eighteen.
    Adulthood. The period from adolescence to the end of life and begins at age nineteen.
    Middle age. The period of adulthood that stretches from age thirty-one to fifty.
    Senior years, or old age. Extend from age fifty-one until the end of life.
    https://med.libretexts.org/Courses/American_Public_University/APUS%3A_An_Introduction_to_Nutrition_(Byerley)/Text/12%3A_Maternal_Infant_Childhood_and_Adolescent_Nutrition/12.02%3A_The_Human_Life_Cycle

  75. @Zachary Smith

    It’s my impression the reason this vaccination program was finally discontinued was the discovery that once Smallpox had been well controlled, the vaccine deaths were no longer acceptable.

    You nailed that.

    Another major point is that the vaccine for smallpox was not responsible for the decline in smallpox. The decline was due to better nutrition, less crowding, clean water, and a less stressful lifestyle among other things.

    For those who’re capable of understanding the truth, this book will fill in the details and I’m only a third of the way through it.

    Dissolving Illusions
    by Suzanne Humphries, Roman Bystrianyk
    Not too long ago, lethal infections were feared in the Western world. Since that time, many countries have undergone a transformation from disease cesspools to much safer, healthier habitats. Starting in the mid-1800s, there was a steady drop in deaths from all infectious diseases, decreasing to relatively minor levels by the early 1900s. The history of that transformation involves famine, poverty, filth, lost cures, eugenicist doctrine, individual freedoms versus state might, protests and arrests over vaccine refusal, and much more.
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18336700-dissolving-illusions

    • Replies: @Rumpelstiltskin
  76. The Left is under zionist control and it is zionism that is behind the destruction of America, zionists are destroyers of nations and humanity, they are wrecks of society, they did it in the Soviet Union and they are doing it here in America.

  77. roonaldo says:
    @Wokechoke

    Ah, my wily Trope-a-Dope got me a Wokechoke.

    Ever heard of the Nuremberg Treaty, the Nuremberg Code? It’s part of U.S. and international law and these suckers are breaking the hell out of it. Try not to let the word “Nuremberg” send you into dance of the sugarplum nazi hysteria–it’s simply part of what they’ll be prosecuted under, hopefully, along with the Declaration of Helsinki (ohmygod! he said helsinki! sneaky finns on skis shooting naughty german invaders! iiyeeee…).

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    , @Wokechoke
  78. @ariadna

    JP has a much better understanding of the whole game and excellent advice for those playing it and, unlike Cook, he is thoroughly entertaining.

    True and thanks for that. The guy is a genius.

    • Thanks: Agent76
  79. Dystopian says:
    @Liborio Guaso

    I voted for Trump twice. I was livid when he signed the covid stimulus bill and did nothing to stop government overreach in the name of a contrived emergency. Everything that I say today I said at the very beginning of the scamdemic. Unlike leftists, most on the right do not support a candidate unconditionally. When “our guys” mess we hold them responsible. I voted for Trump because I felt he was the lessor of two evils and it made people like you irrational. Also, it appealed to my sense of humor, something you obviously lack.

  80. Mark G. says:

    There is some philosophical inconsistency on both the left and the right when it comes to the issue of bodily autonomy. The right has been better than the left on allowing people the right to use drugs like Ivermectin or HCQ. The left has been for federal government involvement on this issue. If you take “Ivermectin and HCQ” and substitute “Marijuana” here, though, their positions switch. Many on the left defend the right to use this drug and become staunch advocates of states rights when it comes to legalizing it. On the other side, many Republicans who normally support states rights suddenly switch and become advocates of federalized drug law enforcement.

    It’s not only drugs where the right often doesn’t believe in the right of people to do what they want with their bodies. Texas just passed a law that makes any offer to pay for sexual services a felony punishable by 180 days to two years in prison. If someone has bodily autonomy, they should have a legal right to sell their body for sexual services and it would then be inconsistent to say another person doesn’t have a legal right to offer to buy those services. When you see these laws passed, you often see a coalition of strange bedfellows with both rightwing Christian fundamentalists and leftwing radical feminists supporting them.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  81. @Jim Crint

    China is using the full spectrum of deterrents which result in its now being the only country which prioritises its population with a zero Covid policy. Just three deaths have been recorded since the initial lockdowns were released about 18 months ago.

    Please tell us what deterrents China is using. Please don’t be a cuckoo, lay an egg and flee.

    • Replies: @Jim Crint
  82. @The Real World

    It’s clear that you didn’t read the links thoroughly, and are the one reacting emotionally, rather than thinking rationally. An aborted baby still alive outside the womb is an infant, for example, from the links. The facts are laid out in graphic detail – not hysteria. You clearly read nothing, before you went full DEFCON-Snowflake.

    • Replies: @The Real World
  83. Mefobills says:

    The vaccine technology is novel and its effects on the complex physiology of the human body and the individual vagaries of each of our immune systems will not be fully apparent for a long time.

    Sinovac isn’t novel. Interesting how the “Western” countries gave false choices to their populations, and a traditional full genome inactivated vaccine was not an option. The false choices included propaganda, such as changing the definition of what a vaccine is. Gene therapy became Emergency Vaccine became Vaccine

    https://aresmaria.wordpress.com/2021/07/08/covid-19-vaccine-ingredients/

    #SInoVac
    Vaccine Basic Information

    • CoronaVac manufactured by Sinovac Biotech Ltd. is an inactivated virus COVID-19 vaccine.
    • Active ingredient: Inactivated SARS-CoV-2 Virus (CZ02 strain).
    • Adjuvant: Aluminum hydroxide.
    • Excipients: Disodium hydrogen phosphate dodecahydrate, sodium dihydrogen phosphate,

    Basic process goes like this:

    1) Grow the virus in live culture (usually embryonic eggs)
    2) Cripple the virus by dipping it in formalin
    3) Add it some stabilizers and fats
    4) Add in an adjuvant – alum in this case.

    Administer the vaccine into a large muscle like the deltoid, and be sure to aspirate the shot.

    The West = Vaccines that aren’t vaccines. Propaganda via the owned press to brainwash the public. Bad choices forced on the public. Informed consent was not followed, rather it was uninformed public shaming (get the shot or you are killing others). And don’t bother aspirating.

    The vaccines that are not vaccines turn the body into a protein factory. They “temporarily” take over the cellular machinery to express spike proteins.

    Traditional vaccines grow the viral material outside the human body. These new vaccines are very different than what came before.

    If your ruling elites hate you, or thinks you are animals to be harvested for profit, then you are living in a doomed civilization.

    Finance capitalism dooms civilization as civilizational planning is done by sociopaths motivated by profit. Too often the profits are sordid gain; capital divorced from labor; price divorced from value.

    Example of this very Jewish worldview is below:

    https://investorplace.com/2021/10/take-your-nvax-stock-profits/

    While Novavax certainly offers other revenue-generating channels, the current narrative focuses on the Covid-19 pandemic.

    Take your profits now! Even though your profits are based on manufactured hysteria designed to milk and control the public.

    • Replies: @Fart Blossom
  84. Agent76 says:

    December 22, 2021 Bombshell: CDC No Longer Recognizes the PCR Test As a Valid Method for Detecting “Confirmed Covid-19 Cases”

    In the Course of the Next Ten Days the PCR test in the US will be Declared Invalid.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/bombshell-cdc-no-longer-recognizes-the-pcr-test-as-a-valid-method-for-detecting-confirmed-covid-19-cases/5765179

    • Thanks: Fart Blossom
  85. Wokechoke says:
    @roonaldo

    No one administering these drugs will be prosecuted for the jabs.

  86. Gandhi in India used civil disobedience. Masses of people joined him to overwhelm the state and it’s security and police. The sheer numbers made it difficult to jail people. It overwhelmed the courts and the government and it was nonviolent, many were killed by the British and many more had their heads bashed in.
    Today, we can organize flash protesters at any venue if we have the support of like minded.
    By targeting vulnerable governmental organs such as airports, large railway junctions peacefully, we can win popular support.
    Even the MSM will not be able to ignore such an event.
    Wear helmets.

  87. Wokechoke says:
    @Mark G.

    Much of the talk avoids race.

    Making drugs like Marijuana and Cocaine contraband allows for the police to search and arrest blacks at the street level. The ivermectin argument was more about the AMA, run by jewish doctors, controlling medical substances. Monopoly. There’s also political tribal gamesmanship over the HCQ stuff but even that is about trying to defame whitey.

  88. Wokechoke says:
    @roonaldo

    Finns shot Soviet invaders and were allies of the Third Reich.

    The vaccine mandates are pure leftwing/liberal/center right managerial state actions. Indeed they are the fruit of Allied attitudes and Liberal Democracy.

    • Replies: @roonaldo
  89. @gay troll

    G.T.: As a gay man you should have some insights into the long ongoing assault on bodily integrity in America. Since ca 1940, when hospital births began to significantly outnumber home birthing, an insidious program was instituted in which the innocent neonatal boys were victimized by a form of sexual assault. I write, once again, about neonatal violent removal of the most sensitive and nerve-ending rich part of the male anatomy: Circumcision.

    In this realm, the strictures of the Old Testicles and other religiosities calculated to impose fear-memes upon the “Great Overwashed” masses were responsible for treating children as the PROPERTY of their parents, particularly their fathers, as at that time women were also regarded as being owned by their spouses. Is this not other than a form of slavery? Does the individual not posses rights over his or her own body?

    Now, I will admit that the circumcised dick as against the intact cock is generally considered as a preferential ambulatory lollipop by majorities of both women and gay/bi men. There is much anecdotal evidence of that preference.
    When it comes to the virtually hard-wired primary animal act, however; I will once again on these threads, present an anecdote. While a couch guest of a waitress in Holyoke, Colorado in 1980, courtesy of my hitchhiking ride via a Minnesota over the road truck-driver, who happened to be her most favored boyfriend; in a conversation the next day was regaled with a bit of boasting from that driver:

    “With all the other men, I’ve had before, it was like being pounded with leather, but with you”, she told him, “it was like being stroked with satin”. The intact male organ is naturally suited for man-woman intercourse. With both natural lubrication and a retractable “sleeve” which enjoys maximum capability of smooth, sliding strokes; that intact organ, when discovered by female partners, is usually a serendipitous experience.

    Also, anecdotally: A primarily lesbian roommate, who had, already a mother, been incarcerated in Washington State’s female prison. There, she discovered that other women were far more felicitous in giving her oral gratification than any of the males she had previously experienced. So my question for you, gay troll, is whether those lollipopped dicks are more pleasurably worshipped by fellow males than by members of the opposite sex.

    My suspicion is that the majority of Unz posters and lurkers are comparatively ignorant of these usually very personal matters, which in the case of male bodily autonomy happens to be nothing less than America’s Dirty Little Secret. Nobody and I mean nobody, strait, gay, women, men, or wtf seems to want to talk about these matters. It’s a taboo.

    Don’t you think it’s high time that we as a culture took a long look at the matter of neonatal circumcision and its probably negative impact on the psyche by means of establishing a deeply-embedded fear meme? Dylan Thomas once enthused on his female partners: “Here’s to the wound that never heals”. When American men have undergone the unkindest cut, do they not also suffer from a wound that never heals? Does this psychic trauma result in a form of prolonged adolescent angst, a neurosis, an adulterated grown-up male?

    Take a quick look at our current governance. Are there any grown-up male adults in the room?
    Maybe good healing-head is part of a solution. Would there be any validity in that proposal?

    • Replies: @gay troll
    , @Liza
  90. @Mefobills

    CoronaVac manufactured by Sinovac Biotech Ltd. is an inactivated virus COVID-19 vaccine.

    How did they acquire the virus and how long did it take them to develop the vaccine and test it for safety?

    Since covid probably isn’t very deadly, why did they bother developing, manufacturing and injecting the stuff in the first place?

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  91. @anonymous

    The Japanese are the most homogenous of all major industrialized cultures. While their tendency is often towards “groupthink”; their underlying social compact appears to be along the lines of: “We’re all in this thing together”. Kudos to the Japanese who appear to have achieved a civilization based on unitary considerations.

    • Replies: @Void
  92. @Bastetsmom

    So the baby human developing in its mother’s uterus has no bodily autonomy? It’s not an individual? If the unborn have no bodily autonomy then neither does mom, nor anyone else for that matter.

    • Replies: @Liza
  93. Jon Chance says: • Website

    The Left-Right Dialectic is probably the biggest hoax since the invention of fractional-reserve banking.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTPopNG6LRM&list=PLDVQ932i7NF1jXUrdC589fMRAKx_LmAVp&index=1

    • Agree: Agent76
    • Replies: @Agent76
  94. @Franz

    Interesting concept, the “public square”. Problem there, as I see it, is that our current governing bodies are OWNED, lock, stock and poppycock.

    Perhaps one direction to consider would be a council of say, 27, elders. Such a council would NOT be dominated by Ivy League graduates. Those institutionalized individuals might be allowed to slip a single member into such a council. Curiously, it is probable that actual wise elders likely would include only a minority of members who even hold a “higher educational” degree.

    Many such individuals, however, would be found on Reservations, in Appalachia and among Deep South blacks, plus rural America in general, which still includes individuals possessing some measures of common-sense—a virtue virtually nonexistent in sub-urbia.

    • Replies: @Franz
  95. RobinG says:
    @Dumbo

    Here’s the validation of that definition – – – [“selling herd immunity”]

    I can’t be part of this with these people who believe in herd immunity and believe we are fine with only protecting the 1.5M Americans in LTCF and not the 80M + with co-morbidities in the populations included the unacceptable death toll among Native Americans, Hispanics and Blacks. With our current mitigation scenario we end up near 300K by Christmas and 500K by the time we have vaccine – close to the 600K live lost with 1918 Flu. We have worked to find a path that is the least disruptive to the economy but moves us under R1 and saves both the economy and American lives. Without masks and social distancing in public and homes we end up with twice as many deaths – we are a very unhealthy nation with a lot of obesity etc — we will never look as good as even Sweden due to our co-morbidities. These are people who believe that all the curves are predetermined and mitigation is irrelevant – they are a fringe group without grounding in epidemics, public health or on the ground common sense experience. I am happy to go out of town or whatever gives the WH cover for Weds. Perhaps do Annapolis and meet with Hogan. Fauci and I could probably do it together — I am open to options.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/private-emails-reveal-deborah-birx-refused-to-participate-in-trump-covid-pressers-selling-herd-immunity-i-just-can-t/ar-AAS3Nw7?ocid=msedgntp

  96. raga10 says:

    When did parts of the left get so contemptuous of the principle of “bodily autonomy”?

    When did parts of the right become so concerned about the principle of “bodily autonomy”? They certainly don’t display it in regards to abortion.

    But no matter. It’s an important principle; if it wasn’t for it, by now you’d probably have the officials escorted by police going door-to-door and vaccinating everyone in sight whether they liked it or not… oh wait. that actually happened already: around year 1900 in New York – at the time when America was presumably great, or at any rate not dominated by “the Left”.

    https://www.history.com/news/vaccine-passports-smallpox-scar

    • Disagree: Emslander
    • Troll: Vinnyvette
    • Replies: @Emslander
  97. Mefobills says:
    @Fart Blossom

    How did they acquire the virus and how long did it take them to develop the vaccine and test it for safety?

    I was listening to an interview with Dr. Malone, and he mentioned how they purchased the virus.

    I wasn’t aware enough at the time to consider how important Malone’s comment was. So, you hit the nail on the head. There is a bottleneck in the supply chain, probably one or two sources.

    Where did the original virus that the “vaccine makers” used come from?

    Dr. Montagnier got his hands on some early on (early 2020 I think), when he noticed that it had markers where it was bio-engineered.

    His full quote: “We were not the first since a group of Indian researchers tried to publish a study which showed that the complete genome of this coronavirus [has] sequences of another virus, which is HIV.”

    • Replies: @Fart Blossom
  98. RobinG says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Why do you need to lie?

    You wrote, “The article says the man “died after testing positive for Omicron”. It doesn’t say what he actually died of.”
    Actually, the article says, “The first confirmed death from the Omicron variant in the U.S. was a reinfection…”
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/first-omicron-death-in-u-s-was-reinfection-a-warning-to-those-who-ve-already-had-covid/ar-AAS1b5P?ocid=msedgntp

    If you disagree, or have other evidence, then say so and cite your source. You’re betting your pals here think you’re reliable and won’t bother to check. Very sad, this is the way you make your case.

  99. Mr. Cook really ought to have spent more thought on the issue of “bodily autonomy/bodily integrity” before writing this essay. The topic can easily be distorted to “prove” whatever point an author is trying to make.

    Since the terms were entirely new ones to me, a search was the first order of business. I learned at Google books there were arguments in the 1800s that attempts to restrict Prostitution infringed on the “right” of individuals to cash in on the sale of their own body’s sexual potential. People wanting restrictions didn’t believe the spreading of syphilis should not be considered a matter of individual “liberty”. Likewise for 2021 – unrestricted spreading of Covid is either a Human Right, or it isn’t.

    Books spoke of the ‘autonomy’ concept in terms of keeping children safe from predators – as in no groping or kiddy porn photographs. In some places this has been taken to an extreme that spanking and other forms of discipline are not permissible.

    Lots and lots of new references to “bodily autonomy” can be found in the field of women’s rights to control their own bodies. The opposite view is that females are second-class citizens (ref. Genesis) who are by nature casual murderers. Compulsory pregnancy is necessary because holier-than-you folks DEFINE the fertilized egg, embryo, and fetus as fully human beings. So pregnant women must be treated as brood mares.

    The new Human Right Mr. Cook writes about isn’t enforced with any uniformity. Private Corporate Persons intrude on human bodies with the contaminated foods they sell. Why do Europeans reject US toilet bowl chickens? For the same reason American cooks must treat their kitchens as a toxic waste site with chlorine-type cleanups after handling this wholesome food. Ditto for the hormones and antibiotics, the excessive cheap fats and sugars. As usual, Profit trumps body safety/integrity.

    The water which goes into our autonomous bodies is often contaminated with poisons neither Corporations nor their regulators see fit to remove. Flint Michigan water and Lead. Fracking wastes poisoning rural wells. Agriculture chemicals.

    The air we breath into our Holy Bodies gets 2000 tons of fresh mercury every year from coal plants. Diesel exhausts choke us, and many factories are only “pretend” regulated on their air emissions.

    Nobody thinks it strange when Private Corporations invade the “bodily autonomy” zone. Pre-employment physicals. Pee-in-the-cup urine tests for drugs. Many Private outfits demanded vaccinations long before Covid, and if a person wanted the job, they fell into line.

    Pre-Covid Government required invasive blood tests if a law official suspected drunken driving. Those lawmen would put on rubber gloves and do body cavity searches if they declared the need. Travel overseas to backward pestholes required extensive vaccinations. Ditto for the Armed Forces. An army which will collapse at the first touch of biowar isn’t of much use – that’s been known for a very long time.

    There is a long history of personal empowerment of the ‘my body security’ theme. Sight: black men have been lynched when white women declared they had been ‘eyed’ by that black man. Touch: hundreds of people in Tulsa were murdered when a black man in an elevator tripped and startled a white woman when he touched her. Proximity: a new ‘self defense’ zone has been defined by many state legislatures. If a person declares he feels threatened, he is entitled to fire bullets into the body of the person he was concerned about. This “right” is now being extended to driving a vehicle into a crowd of pedestrian bodies when the driver believes his Right To Drive is being impeded.

    Finally, the Right To Profit has permitted Corporations to put nearly unaffordable prices on medical drugs like insulin. Profit trumps the right of brown and black people to enjoy some degree of bodily safety from Epidemics/Pandemics.

    So Mr. Cook needs to revise that Universal Right. The bodily autonomy thing turns out to be highly restricted in the real world. Accidental Pregnancy is a very different thing if you’re a wealthy woman instead of a poor one. The consequences of Drunken Driving manslaughter for a rich person are not the same as they are for a minimum wage individual.

  100. Abbybwood says:
    @roonaldo

    The FDA ILLEGALLY approved the EUA jabs back in December 2020.

    The jabs could NOT be legally authorized until “all possible therapeutics” had been tested for safety and efficacy. There were hundreds of physicians, scientists, researchers world-wide who were already having positive results with early treatments like the same ones Donald Trump received at Walter Reed in October 2020: Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, Zinc, D3, Vitamin C 50,000 u IV twice a day, Regeneron, Quercitin etc.

    The FDA totally ignored any evidence of early treatment with these therapeutics and the jabs should never have been approved, especially without long-term testing for efficacy and safety.

    Plus all the treatments I mentioned are cheap, off-patent, safe and effective.

    Dr. Scott Atlas, Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Paul Marik, Dr. Harvey Risch and many others (including many lawyers) know all of this to be true.

    And to add insult to injury, the FDA and CDC and Fauci have fought from the beginning to suppress all these early therapeutics to the point of threatening doctors and pharmacists if they order/dispense them.

    Thousands, as a result, needlessly suffered and died because their doctors were corporate cowards and lackeys.

    • Agree: roonaldo
  101. Void says:

    It doesn’t matter much now. But viruses has never been isolated. Heard of Lanka ? He offered 100000 euro for anyone able to isolate a virus. Media lied someone won or rather left out that it got to a higher instance Lanka won. If you heard of vanderpalatz(spelling). He points out virus from latin viradious meaning poisonous, is really reactions to particulary EMF and the symptoms the detoxing. The horrible implications if vaccines arent for immunization then what? When they also include aluminium and some “black powder” found in moderna batches and there’s being a big rollout since the beginning of Kung Flu. So yes. This is depopulation. The hepatitis b vaccine caused the “symptoms” leading to AZT and Freddy Mercury is dead whereas magic Johnson aren’t. This is what big eye done for centuries, maybe decades. And now it has come to us.

  102. Void says:

    I am from Sweden btw and they just mandated vaccine for some municipality.

  103. Void says:
    @Emerging Majority

    Helps being big donors to WHO.

  104. @Mefobills

    Since I have a record of respecting your thoughts, please answer this as well.:

    Since covid probably isn’t very deadly, why did they bother developing, manufacturing and injecting the stuff in the first place?

    Assuming they actually did do any of that, of course, but note that’s not an assumption I’m making.

    • Replies: @Mefobills
  105. sally says:

    We no longer are ruled by a government responsive to those it governs; instead, we are ruled by global monopoly-endowed greedy-profit-seeking, privately-owned massive in size commercial interest. Each sector of the economy is owned by a different commercial interest.

    These interest are organizations bigger in size than any single government; they have more wealth and more power than any government. They answer to no one. They have no obligation to those the governments manage. In fact the governments are the middle men managers working for the commercial interest.

    What is needed is an independent of government, its agencies, its politicians, its commercial or its professional or its national interest, a constitutional convention on global health care. A convention that holds fact gathering hearings in public, and distributes those hearings to all persons in all languages in all forms for all persons to be governed to see and hear. No more government agencies needed, no more experts to dictate anything.

    A convention on health care that brings the issues, facts, and health care situation to the knowledge of every single person in the world and inputs into the constitution the articles the convention produces that receive a majority vote of the 8 billion people who live in the world. Constitutions ratified by the humanity of the world, forget the commercially owned nation states.

  106. @Abbybwood

    Thousands, as a result, needlessly suffered and died …

    And that would not be the first time for a lot of things, including vaccines. The history of the development and use of the things is not as clean as most folks have been taught. In fact, sceptic as I am, I had no clue until I started looking into these things. My own already low trust level for “authority” was not directed at physicians or even big pharma, but now I not only have no faith in them, but positively loathe them, and I feel it’s not only justified but long overdue.

    From henceforth I shall reject out of hand nearly everything that comes from them and I’ll scrutinize well the few things that happen to remain.

    • Agree: Flying Dutchman, Mehen
  107. @Altai

    Biden and Harris were literally tweeting out their concerns about the vaccines during the campaign.

    Yes, while the manufacturers deliberately withheld their lies about successful trials until after the election.

  108. @Bastetsmom

    Only two years ago most people understood “bodily autonomy” to be a fundamental, unquestionable human right? Then why the objections to abortion? What hypocrisy.

    Yes, almost everyone who pre-2020 insisted that a woman’s right to control of her own body was sacrosanct threw that principle out the window with the advent of the gene-altering injection experiment. Hypocrisy indeed.

    Well, it’s a big boost for the antiabortion cause, since who going forward will be able to argue for reproductive bodily freedom without having their own directly contradictory words on forcible injections thrown back at them?

    • Agree: Mark G.
  109. gay troll says:
    @Emerging Majority

    Sir, I wish I had not been circumcised as an infant. It is a violation of bodily autonomy and informed consent. The possible health advantages touted by those who have a violent religious imperative to lay claim to the world’s genitals are nothing but smoke and mirrors. Let the young adult male decide for himself whether he wants his cock cut for the volcano demon.

    As far as preference, don’t think that I am so shallow as to favor partners based on their foreskin. Cut or uncut is equally exciting to me. I am far more likely to discriminate based on fitness or physiognomy. I regard consensual sex as an expression of love, not a sport. Unlike YHWH I have no interest in categorizing and collecting dicks.

  110. Jimmy Dore explains how the struggling Green Party just destroyed itself by supporting mandates.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  111. Numa says:
    @ariadna

    The point that should be made is that while the artificial spike proteins are being made in cells and disseminated through the circulation, for a period of a few months they *appear* to simply outcompete the real virus for the receptor sites.

    This provides the illusion of protection from the virus for a few months, while doing subtle damage to circulatory and immune systems as well. And also explains why it cannot provide protection from the virus.

    The humoral immune system was never intended to protect against RNA virii.

    • Thanks: Rumpelstiltskin
  112. Void says:

    I know it’s not much but a little light.
    This guy is my reference for 5g and non germ theory.


    Video Link
    IT’S BEGINNING TO LOOK A LOT LIKE…

  113. @Bard of Bumperstickers

    You are welcome for receiving accurate info about the stages of human life.

    I glanced at one of your links. That info is not relevant related to average American citizens and her/their choice to have an abortion or not. The linked info is about organized human trafficking, pregnancy, abortion, etc……for intended nefarious means.

    You conflate things – whether unintentional or intentional, neither is good. A baby born near-to or at term and that survives is an infant.

  114. Void says:
    @Abbybwood

    I nagged WHO so much about Ivermectine regarding Indonesia I think around 20 Juny or so.-You can see the graph when cases declined sharply,Ban Ki Moon added me as friend. And I am not joking. Friendship lasted till I wrote hi thus he put me on block. Hope he wasn’t just snoping.

  115. You are simply lying about having read any links. They’re plainly and unambiguously about anesthesia-free vivisection of newborn babies and aborted fetuses for the purpose of medical experimentation and vaccine development.

  116. Dumbo says:
    @RobinG

    That’s a lot of misinformation and half-truths packed into one small paragraph.

    “Herd immunity” does not exist for the flu or the common cold. Honestly, I am not even sure if I believe in the concept at all.

    I have never heard of “Covid parties”, but it sounds like an idiotic concept.

    No one except perhaps hardline Darwinist argued for the “weaker to be killed off”.

    Look, there’s no mystery. It’s like the flu. A bad flu. It affects more the old, or people who have health issues and it can be pretty dangerous to them. It happens every winter mostly. Vaccines may help but they are not “100% safe and effective” and they should not be mandatory. Be careful and stay home or go to the hospital if you are sick. End of story.

    The “mitigation measures” were stupid because they never “protected the weak” (lots of people died in nursing homes, in many cases abandoned there by staff they flew in panic at the beginning) and they never really worked, or they wouldn’t be tried again, again, and again .

    I get tired of saying the same thing over and over. Lockdowns, masks, social distancing, etc, were never used for the flu or other respiratory diseases. The reason, we found out after two long years, is that they DO NOT WORK. They do not protect the weak, they do not protect anyone, they are really little more than a hassle to most people. There’s a doctor who says basically the same thing, but his video was deleted.

    I’ve read once a story about a guy who set fire to his own house to get rid of a snake. Sounds like our governments and “corona”. Only that the “snake” is still out there, and governments are still wreaking havoc on their own population, to no avail.

    Next year, I will be saying the same things, and who knows what governments will be trying then, all in the name of “our health” or whatever.

  117. Mefobills says:
    @Fart Blossom

    Psychopaths are born. Sociopaths are made. Then there are the money-sick types, where too much money is not enough. There is no loss of wants.

    Religion can also teach sociopathy; I consider Judaism an ideology that teaches sociopathy. In other words, there is a high percentage of Jews who are made into sociopaths, with in-group/out-group fear programmed in from birth.

    Since covid probably isn’t very deadly, why did they bother developing, manufacturing and injecting the stuff in the first place

    Thorstein Vleben took note of the human condition:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorstein_Veblen

    High-status individuals, as Veblen explains, could instead afford to live their lives leisurely (hence their title as the leisure class), engaging in symbolic economic participation, rather than practical economic participation. These individuals could engage in conspicuous leisure for extended periods of time, simply following pursuits that evoked a higher social status. Rather than participating in conspicuous consumption, the leisure class lived lives of conspicuous leisure as a marker of high status.[43] The leisure class protected and reproduced their social status and control within the tribe through, for example, their participation in war-time activities, which while they were rarely needed, still rendered their lower social class counterparts dependent upon them.

    All class based societies since the beginning of time, have a ruling class that operates as Thorstein states.

    With “international” finance capitalism, the world has been networked. A very tiny elite of sociopaths meet at places like WEF, to then control the world from behind the scenes with string pulling. Fear Uncertainty and Disease (FUD) is a method of control, which started in earnest with the printing press, and now with social media.

    A large percentage of the population are easy to maneuver, which is why it is so critical that the ruling class not be sociopaths.

    • Thanks: Emerging Majority
  118. The CoViD fiasco has beautifully illustrated just how Evil, vicious, banal and non-viable the sewer that is the West has become. Inevitably, after decades of Rightwing dominance and Left surrender. Abject, craven, groveling submission.
    To see Corbyn acting with some intelligence and integrity only makes me more contemptuous of how he gutlessly caved in to the Judaic hate campaign of lies and slander that destroyed his career, UK Labour and any hope of the UK escaping the Hell of neo-liberal neo-feudalism, ruled over by the buffoon thug, BoJo.
    Here in Austfailia, as you would expect in a country where bullying is a way of Life, the little Fuhrers in the States vie with each other to concoct the most ludicrous authoritarian measures.And not an efficient authoritarianism working to some decent end, but mad, impulsive, stupid policies designed to appeal to idiots driven mad with fear by an Evil and propagandistic MSM. Idiots who are demanding that their little children, at NO risk from the disease, be injected with experimental mRNA gene therapies, and to Hell with any consequences. Of course, as brainwashed, pig ignorant, morons, living in a totalitarian MSM brainwashing system, they have NO IDEA that the shots are experimental, differ from all other vaccines and that their children face no threat from the disease.
    The role of the MSM has been exemplary in its Evil, vicious, single-voiced indoctrination. That the Omnicon brand is plainly less dangerous is a truth that they are denying with every fibre of their rotten being. To have ‘the Pandemic’ disappear through a natural evolution of the disease is seemingly a threat to some agenda or other. Their efforts to keep pumping up The Fear, particularly to push MORE ‘boosters’ have been lurid and typically despicable, with the newsreaders’ voices quickly reaching pitches and timbres of fear and horror as they describe the latest terror.
    And, as expected, the ‘boosters’ will be pushed ever more frequently. Two weeks ago it was to be six monthly, then the hordes of ‘epidemiologists’ and other medical Mafiosi began wailing for five-monthly, then, within days, fourth monthly and so it is already in New Zealand. And the vicious, bullying, tactics used to coerce vaccination grow daily. Compulsory vaccination, against ALL previous tenets of medical bioethics, is ubiquitous, and now the thugs are proposing that unvaccinated lose their universal health insurance or be made to pay for their ITU treatment, ie hundreds of thousands of dollars aka Pacific Pesos. Every day a new coercive, bullying, brainwave by those in the throes of a psychic epidemic, a mass formation, or perhaps just good old, diabolical, Wetigo, aka Thanatos. Where will it all end?

    • Thanks: Kiza
  119. Culpepper says:
    @Bastetsmom

    Repeat that to yourself every time you buckle up your seat belt

  120. @Carlton Meyer

    Western Green Parties have a tendency to turn fascistic very quickly, and do nothing concrete about the ecological crises.

  121. Void says:

    Ivermectine is however conflicting with non germ theory assuming one prominent mechanism it being a protease inhibitor like ahem.. Pfizer new pill supposely work in complete. If one assuming it’s the antiworming doing it one need to go into rather “tinfoil hattish” territory.

  122. roonaldo says:
    @Wokechoke

    In 1944-45, Finns fought the Germans, after concluding a treaty with the Soviets. As they retreated, the Germans carried out a scorched earth policy, causing enormous infrastructure damage. It is known as the Lapland War.

    You are probably right that the pandemic criminals won’t be prosecuted, but it ain’t over til the fat lady with comorbidities sings.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  123. @Abbybwood

    This is a monstrous scandal, TYPICAL of the US medical business model, now made even more ludicrous as well as wicked by Pfizer more or less cloning IVM for its ‘new’ hideously expensive ‘medication’. One that works in exactly the same manner, pharmacodynamically, as IVM, a fact that the ‘fact-checker’ vermin deny with practised mendacity. Can it get any more despicable? You bet it can, and will.

  124. @RobinG

    Why do you need to lie?

    I didn’t. I read the article that you linked to and all it says is that this guy died “after having tested positive for covid”. And as I’ve explained to you, “dying of covid” doesn’t mean what you think it does.

    A person, like this guy, checks into the hospital. While there he is tested for covid and is found to be positive. He later dies. Because he technically “has covid”, it’s listed as a covid death. You see how easy that was? I’m not denying that he “died of covid”, I’m just helping you see how this information can be manipulated.

    If you’re certain that you’re right in this case, you’re going to have to do a lot better than just linking to a Microsoft article. I’m sure you’re aware that Gates himself is heavily invested in this.

    Learn to think for yourself friend. Question everything. Don’t assume that the media and the pharmaceutical industries aren’t corrupt.

    • Replies: @RobinG
  125. Emslander says:
    @raga10

    They certainly don’t display it in regards to abortion.

    Don’t be ridiculous. Pro-life people insist on bodily autonomy for the mother and the unborn child. Pro-aborts ignore the body of the child. Goes without saying.

    • Replies: @raga10
  126. Numa says:

    Bodily autonomy?
    A gibberish term for the simple concept of *free* as in sovereignity of the individual – what the First Amendment was designed to protect.

    Only children and slaves are not protected by this right. Nor are convicts, military, and dogs.

    The Bill of Rights was not designed to protect folks in good times. It was designed as a limit to government overreach in bad times.

    Abortion should be an absolute right. Homonculus theories are superstitous nonsense. Legal rights should not exist prior to personality development, approximately 12 months. Its what the UK had as law until fairly recently. Its not about eugenics so much as simply ensuring that children should not be forced to grow up in non-nurturing environments.

    That said, the government should also stay out of domestic disputes and squabbles, else keep everything as a civil matter.

    The entire concept that unvaccinated are a threat to vaccinated is scientifically preposterous beyond all reason. And hypocritical when not applied to minorities.

    • Replies: @IreneAthena
  127. Altai says:

    Part of the left has a much weaker grasp of this point. Its censoriousness, its arrogance, its hectoring tone

    This represents the increased prominence, turbo-charged by social media of social liberalism above economic issues.

    This arrangement seems perfectly fine to the upper middle classes (Whose instinct is towards individualism both economic and social) who are increasingly shifting towards the left as expressions of social collectivism by the working class in either opposition to immigration (Which also has a strong economic component that many of the upper middle classes don’t feel) and neoliberal globalisation seem to have left them seething with anger. (How many former assumed progressive economists etc have you seen throwing tantrums saying the left doesn’t need the working class? Quite a few) This is not seen as merely a difference in opinion. It is seen as intolerably selfish and fundamentally evil. (And how much of it is also disgust with those they deem their social inferiors not knowing their place) As such the last few years have been incomprehensible to these people. As this new religion has become increasingly dominant as a social status currency, it has been universally adopted by the elite and upper middle classes. Now I don’t see much evidence that the elite have become ‘left wing’ as we traditionally think about it but increasingly those of professional backgrounds see themselves as ‘left wing’ and define what that means since they only care about social liberalism (Social individualism) and tend to support neoliberal economics. (Economic individualism)

    Social media has also become dominated by Lisa Simpson types who actively enjoy virtue-signalling and purity spirals and complaining about everyone who isn’t them. They cause things to trend and then the media can launder this into a false social consensus whenever it suits them. (It’s noticeable that whenever BLM touched on Palestine the media was either silent and pretended it didn’t happen or demand heads roll)

    I think it’s a better way to look at things. Social liberalism is just social individualism and economic liberalism. (Neoliberalism previously the sole domain of the right is just economic individualism)

    You also ignore the dynamics of social media and the kind of people who are the core power users at your peril in understanding what happened to the left the last 8 or so years.

  128. @Franz

    There is a “public media” in Great Britain and Canada.

    They are howling authoritarians demanding everyone get vaxxed and double vaxxed and boostered until their arms fall off….

    The “public square” is a torture chamber.

    • Replies: @Franz
  129. Void says:

    I’m disgressing a little. I guess you heard of that alleged “hydra vulgaris” in some Moderna vial making some a little worried.. hehe the society never fails to brag in open about their successes which admittely never seems to fail. Remember the Barcelona 1992 festival?! with a spike protein floating and a “ship of fools” riding on top fighting against something. And then a big black hydralike creature in the midst? Classi
    c. Hydra likely symboling immortality.

  130. @Johnny Smoggins

    Many people took the first thinking that would be it.

    Guilty as charged, but you’re right. I’m done with this crap. No more jabs.

  131. raga10 says:
    @Emslander

    Pro-life people insist on bodily autonomy for the mother and the unborn child.

    Demanding that mother must continue feeding and sheltering the fetus with her body against her wish is most assuredly not respecting her body autonomy.

    As for how someone unborn and therefore not possessing a body could even have body autonomy remains a mystery to me.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  132. Wild Bill says:
    @traducteur

    This argument about bodily autonomy has nothing whatever to do with political right or left. Any argument about it has to do with the relationship difference between a free man and a slave. If you are a slave, you must accept the abuse of your master, but if you are a free man, and someone assaults your person you have every right to respond with lethal force and assert your position as being free and alive.

  133. saggy says: • Website

    The Right’s claiming that the in-your-face reality of covid is a conspiracy theory involving every country in the world is a wonderful gift for the ‘Left’.

    • Replies: @Sue Dunham
  134. Franz says:
    @Emerging Majority

    Problem there, as I see it, is that our current governing bodies are OWNED, lock, stock and poppycock.

    Seems like. As when Bill Gates talks to politicians, it’s awful clear he’s the chief and they are the worshipful followers.

    Piecemeal through the 20th century the job of government services was parceled out to private business. Who but dumb Americans could think that the Post Office could become a profit making industry?

    Our “public square” problem is we can’t show a model of what might work. Everything in our world is a grift and an income stream. Somebody makes a killing or nothing happens. I guess we deserve Bill Gates.

  135. Void says:

    As you can see in the video even the lockdown in it. I believe the number of clock is meaning something. Maybe so called gematria involved, maybe date. Ending looked surprisingly not too grim. There was more blood and disorder on the ship. So I guess they’ve having perpetral peace as a goal. Perhaps maingoal. I also noticed today there’s now a wiki article of New World order on top on the older (conspiracy) type. However HG Well was mentioned as someone honourable but he is otherwise described as a hardcore Darwinist. So culling ahead I guess.

  136. Franz says:
    @Justvisiting

    The “public square” is a torture chamber.

    I’ve seen some of it, yes. I keep thinking that if people on MY SIDE took over the public there or the Facebooks here, everything would get better. But people who think independently quickly realize there aren’t many people on their side.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  137. Void says:

    Got a first one. Reason mainly to reduce the risk of spreading “it” to other. Now I know a bit more. One thing that’s strange. Last days I’ve know NWO is real and there’s a secret society out there maybe having honourable goals. Just think the sacrificing got overboard. But obviously they decide. Look, both Nurembergcode and Helsinkiconvention have been violated more times I can count. Like those we’re nothing. Governments over the world has been taken over. Even Putin seemed a bit strange when promoting vaccines. Out of character in some way. Dunno maybe it whats been injected that made this insight became so natural and obvious. Maybe a successful experiment.

  138. Wokechoke says:
    @roonaldo

    Roonaldo ought to be rechristened L’Autiste.

    • Replies: @roonaldo
  139. Without the principle of bodily autonomy, we might still be treating black people like animals – chattel to be used and exploited so that a White Jewish landowning class could grow rich from their enforced labours.

  140. Liza says:
    @BigJimSportCamper

    Ages ago, I thought I was prochoice (for about a year or so.) Somehow, somewhere I read Bill Buckley saying, “But it’s not your body, it’s somebody else’s.” Then I got into the libertarian ideology, where they claimed that because the fetus/baby was 100% dependent on the “mother”, it was nothing but a parasite and you know what we do to parasites.

    Compliments of Rothbard: What the mother is doing in an abortion is causing an unwanted entity within her body to be ejected from it: If the fetus dies, this does not rebut the point that no being has a right to live, unbidden, as a parasite within or upon some person’s body. The common retort that the mother either originally wanted or at least was responsible for placing the fetus within her body is, again, beside the point. Even in the stronger case where the mother originally wanted the child, the mother, as the property owner in her own body, has the right to change her mind and to eject it.

    Could I make this up.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  141. Void says:

    InWell. The NONconspiratorical NWO article which is gone now basically stating theyr’e in it for securing perpetual peace. As you saw in the Barcelona 1992 video..humanity being bloadsoaked on the ship and the ending after lockdown seemingly “happy”.

  142. RobinG says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    You did NOT read the article I linked to, (which is from Newsweek, not Microsoft). Doubling down on the lie, again, sad.

  143. @Franz

    The Facebooks, Googles, Twitters etal of this world had a chance to be an amazing force for good.

    All they had to do was shut the f&^% up.

    No editorlals, no commenting, no warnings, no steering, no censoring, no banning–just get the f&^% out of the way and let people go at it.

    Homo sapiens totally failed–again.

  144. It seems the slogan “My Body, My Choice” only applies to drug addicts, black lives matter, illegals and government officials.
    A pint of Purple Drank for anyone who tells me what’s wrong with this picture.

  145. @saggy

    in-your-face reality of covid

    Lol. Didn’t your mother ever tell you not to sit so close to the teevee?

    • LOL: Flying Dutchman
  146. Iva says:

    Exposed: Klaus Schwab’s School For Covid Dictators, Plan for ‘Great Reset’ (Videos)
    https://rairfoundation.com/exposed-klaus-schwabs-school-for-covid-dictators-plan-for-great-reset-videos/

  147. JimDandy says:
    @Liza

    So, if a little girl snuck onto some property and got stuck in a well on the day the property owner was planning on flooding the property, no one would have any right to stop him.

    • Replies: @Liza
  148. Oh. So the conservatives and neocons, they are not coercive. These Trumpets and Biden Bombs, LLC, what a monstrosity.

    Here, those real right wingers, following the way of Zion —

    https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/12/investigative-reports/meet-ghislaine-daddys-girl/

    BOth sides of the syphilitic party line, sickening —

    Robert Maxell, using Mossad-derived money, paid Tower \$200,000 for his services, which included opening doors —not just to the Los Alamos complex but also to the Reagan White House. PROMIS was then sold to the laboratories through a US-based company that Maxwell had purchased in 1981 and transformed into a front for Mossad. That company, called Information on Demand, was headed by Maxwell’s daughter Christine Maxwell beginning in 1985 until Robert’s death in 1991, during which period she helped sell the bugged PROMIS software to several Fortune 500 companies. Isabel Maxwell, sister to Ghislaine and Christine, would also work at the company before its closure in 1991.

    After the attacks of September 11, 2001, Christine Maxwell teamed up with CIA official Alan Wade to market homeland-security software known as Chiliad to the US national security state, while Isabel would work closely at the intersection between Israeli intelligence and its private technology sector around that same period. Ghislaine, along with her two intelligence and technology-connected sisters, would hold a significant stake in a technology company that appears to be the actual origin of the Bill Gates-Jeffrey Epstein relationship, as explained in this Unlimited Hangout investigative report from May.

    A few years after its acquisition by the Maxwells, Information on Demand was investigated by the FBI for its intelligence links beginning in 1983. However, that investigation was repeatedly shut down by higher-ups in the Meese-led Department of Justice, which, as previously mentioned, had been complicit in the whole sordid PROMIS affair. The investigation was shut down for good in 1985. The cover-up, oddly enough, continues today, with the FBI still refusing to release documents pertaining to Robert Maxwell and his role in the PROMIS scandal.

    At the time, the halting of the FBI investigation green-lighted Information on Demand’s sale of PROMIS to Sandia National Laboratories, which provided Israeli intelligence with direct access to the core of the US nuclear weapons programs and nuclear weapons technology. This was a boon for Israel’s still-undeclared trove of nuclear missiles and warheads and helped ensure that Israel would remain the only nuclear power in the Middle East. Israel’s acquisition of nuclear weapons, seen in the light of the PROMIS scandal and the Pollard spy affair, shows that it was largely accomplished through trickery, deception and espionage rather than Israeli technical or scientific prowess.

    This same year, 1985, is also when the CIA finally caught up with their Israeli equivalent and created its own back door into PROMIS, which it sold mostly to allied intelligence services in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, and elsewhere. It wasn’t nearly as successful as Maxwell, who sold an estimated \$500 million in bugged PROMIS programs for Israel. The CIA, on the other hand, only sold around \$90 million.

  149. For all the jabidots who think that “scientific” journals are generally trustworthy…

    The chaos of postwar Europe allowed Maxwell to plant the seeds for what would become his future media empire. Thanks to his contacts with Allied Forces in postwar Berlin, he was able to acquire the publishing rights for prominent European scientific journals and, in 1948, those interests were folded into the British publishing company Butterworth, which had long-standing ties to British intelligence. In the early 1950s, the company was renamed Pergamon Press, and this company became the cornerstone of Maxwell’s media empire.

    Pergamon’s access to prominent academics, scientists, and government not only led to Maxwell acquiring great wealth but also attracted the interest of various intelligence agencies— British, Russian, and Israeli among them—all of which attempted to recruit Maxwell as an asset or as a spy. When MI6 attempted to recruit Maxwell for the service, it concluded, after conducting an extensive background check, that Maxwell was a “Zionist—loyal only to Israel.”

    Maxwell was not officially recruited to work for Israeli intelligence until 1961…
    Meet Ghislaine: Daddy’s Girl
    By Whitney Webb
    Unlimited Hangout
    December 22, 2021

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/12/no_author/meet-ghislaine-daddys-girl/

  150. @Rev. Spooner

    Thanks for pointing this out. It is something that the few who take on the mandates fail to understand or are just ignorant of the data with respect to early treatment. While I was only willing to watch the Sager clip for 3-4 minutes, it was obvious that he falls into this camp.

  151. Jidvei says:

    I don’t know Mr Cook, it’s been many years, if not decades, that the Western left has held some common-sense views. Your claim that two years ago almost everyone respected personal (“bodily”) autonomy is laughable.

    The Left severed the connection to the working class as early as the Frankfurt School, i.e. 70+ years ago. And though pre-Globalism lefties mostly (or verbally) still stood up for the little man, the Woke movement exposed that non-commitment ruthlessly – again, in line with the identity/minority politics pushed mostly by leftist Jews, capitalist/libertarian oligarchs, and their armies of liberal women, sexual deviants and other “oppressed” groups.

    Your thesis of catastrophic collapse of reason doesn’t wash. It’s been a long an arduous slope.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  152. roonaldo says:
    @Wokechoke

    Ce mec, wokechoke, est un vrai petit couillon.

  153. @Tucker

    I too was duped by the headline, I thought I was going to read an article about the human right to decide what one does and allows to be done with ones own body. Instead it turned into another leftist hit peice on “big bad whitey.” And those poor, poor brownies… You know, the ones who burn down cities, loot stores, rape “white” women more often then white men supposedly rape their own wives, and beat the shit out of elderly business owners, or just randomly punch white people for kicks.
    And those are just the lucky ones who don’t get murdered for loose pocket change!

  154. Jiminy says:

    Can you still find virgins these days to sacrifice? They must be as rare as hens teeth. I’m almost finished painting my placard to carry to declare that I’m a possible carrier of the plague. I still think that it’s a better option then being jabbed every six months, four months, two months. I think it won’t be long before you’ll have to wear a small battery powered pump that continuously injects mRNA , like what diabetics use.

  155. Void says:

    I hope none of you fear the “virus”. I live in Sweden and the reason we got a relatively high figure compared to neighbouring country is because of 90+ percentage false positives. If they’ve gotten another diagnose like pneumonia they’d been oxygen instead of killed. Pair this with diagnosing cases with C as because of C. But WHO got nice number for exclaiming pandemia and the government saved some money. Fucking circus. I also noticed the graph for Convid looks suspiciously much like good old Yamagata flu. For this, mandates and pharmapoisoning with witchbrews. But Pfizer though, they’re greedy swines and the more they earn the more they can corrupt and keep on poisoning. Of course one constantly should be on the edge and feel fear at least for the “virus” and not the vile creatures pushing it violating Nurembergcode informed, corcion and likely more. Those are the problem. Also I’ve adopted non germ theory regarding “viruses”.

    • Replies: @Fart Blossom
  156. The left cares about bodily autonomy? What does that mean? They support 9 month abortions?

    Jonathan Cook is intelligent but he is engaging in a debate that doesn’t exist. The left doesn’t operate on that level. They support indoctrination and really don’t care about the concept of autonomy as they have zero value for the individual.

    Liberal media in the US have masterfully turned the virus into their own favor. Conservatives have once again dropped the ball. I was on a liberal website not long ago where people commonly believed that Trump was anti-vaxx from day one. A few people pointed out that Trump oversaw Operation Warpspeed and those comments were removed.

    Intellectuals like Cook thinks the left is still showing up for a debate. That ended in the 1930s.

    The left really doesn’t care about what is true or false and would stick you in a cattle car if they could. Goal number one for them is getting rid of White people or at least diluting them to where they can no longer be a threat.

    I have spent time in left-wing circles. They don’t give a f–k about principles. White men are too much of a threat to the movement and need to be dealt with “for the world” or else another pissy Austrian watercolor painter might come along. That is how they think. Bodily autonomy….yes they support Whites injecting themselves with drugs and getting abortions. But don’t kid yourself, if they had the power they would put every Cook on a train to a re-education camp. They know they are lying and that is why they are so dangerous. The core issue for them is that the world is “not fair” and honesty works against them.

    Short and sweet is that US/UK conservatives are still “playing nice” and don’t understand their enemy. The liberals in the US are winning the political war with the virus as seen by Biden’s capture of independents in the election. Conservatives are showing up to a debate with one chair.

    • Agree: Justvisiting
    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  157. Void says:

    Sidenote. I entertain the possibility of those clips from China of people dying without any other symptoms convulsing may be real. Military already have rayguns for riots. Maybe it could be done for dissidents to after rolling in 5G towers changing freq/amplitude. Didn’t seem to work good in rainy conditions for riot type.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  158. Agent76 says:
    @Jon Chance

    You have that correct Chance!

    “It is easier to rob by setting up a bank than by holding up a bank clerk.” Bertolt Brecht

  159. Athena says:

    STERILIZATION AND EUGENICS PROGRAMS IN THE UNITED STATES. Pedophile experiments and practices (today) in Germany.

    PAINFUL AND OFTEN DEADLY FORCED EXPERIMENTS on THOUSANDS OF INNOCENTS WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT OR KNOWING by the nazis, and then forced sterilization of tens of thousands Americans or experiments by the CIA, US government and army.

    S. Edmonds: ”The CODID-19 is a massive drill operation”. And now, they are pushing hard to make their rushed and experimental COVID vaccine mandatory. Knowing your government, your congress, parliaments, federal courts, and even the supreme court atroceous track records on these evil mandatory experiments, on these force medical practices, do you trust, do you trust them to be on your side and represent your interests, your health on mandatory covid vaccine experiment? Are you willing to become their guinea pigs?

  160. @raga10

    As for how someone unborn and therefore not possessing a body could even have body autonomy remains a mystery to me.

    If someone has limited consciousness we still recognize their autonomy. At 6 months a fetus is actually interacting with its surroundings. They can actually move to the tempo of music.

    But perhaps we should take supporters of 6 month abortions and just dump them in a creek if they get in an accident and are unconscious. Would probably save medical bills down the road just as abortion supporters argue. No need to pay out SS or Medicare.

    • Replies: @raga10
  161. Athena says:

    And We Should Trust ‘The Science’ of the Pharma Industry?”
    http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO29July2021.php
    (excerpts)

    ”What is never mentioned in mainstream media in the West or almost anywhere in the world is the scientific record of the major global vaccine making pharmaceutical giants. In short, it is abysmal and alarming in the extreme. That alone should prohibit governments from pushing radical untested experimental injections on their populations without extensive long-term animal and other testing to assure their safety.”

    ”Never in history have such high death totals been associated with any vaccine, yet the media is deafeningly silent about this.”

    Pfizer ”has one of the most criminal records of fraud, corruption, falsification and proven damage. A 2010 Canadian study noted, “Pfizer has been a “habitual offender,” persistently engaging in illegal and corrupt marketing practices, bribing physicians and suppressing adverse trial results.” That’s serious. Note that Pfizer has yet to make fully public details of its covid vaccine studies for external examination.”

    ”Pfizer received the biggest drug-related fine in US history in 2009 as part of a \$2.3 Billion plea deal for mis-promoting medicines Bextra and Celebrex and paying kickbacks to compliant doctors. Pfizer pleaded guilty to the felony of marketing four drugs including Bextra “with the intent to defraud or mislead.” They were forced to withdraw their arthritis painkiller Bextra in the USA and EU for causing heart attacks, strokes, and serious skin disease.”

    ”In 2004 Pfizer subsidiary Warner-Lambert was forced to pay \$430 to settle criminal charges and civil liability arising from its fraudulent marketing practices with respect to Neurontin, its brand for the drug gabapentin.”

    ”A New York Times report disclosed in 2010 that Pfizer “…paid about \$20 million to 4,500 doctors and other medical professionals in the United States for consulting and speaking on its behalf in the last six months of 2009.” It paid another \$15.3 million to 250 academic medical centers and other research groups for clinical trials. ”

    ”In eight years of repeated malfeasance through 2009, Pfizer accumulated just under \$3 billion in fines and civil penalties, about a third of one year’s net revenues.”

    ”In 2020 as its covid vaccine was in development, Pfizer paid \$13,150,000 in lobbying Congress and officials in Washington among others. Also notable is the fact that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation own shares of both Pfizer and their partner in the leading mRNA vaccine, BioNTech of Germany.”

    • Thanks: Fart Blossom
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  162. Liza says:
    @JimDandy

    I guess not, Jim. The owner’s wishes would be the only consideration. I am beginning to think libertarians are kind of nuts. The way they twist and turn to defend any antisocial action that doesn’t affect them personally. But when their own interests are trampled on, their original arguments are flipped 180 degrees.

  163. raga10 says:
    @John Johnson

    At 6 months a fetus is actually interacting with its surroundings. They can actually move to the tempo of music.

    Amoeba also interacts with its surroundings – so what? Tomatoes grow better if you play music for them – so what? We play them music if we are so inclined and then we eat them, because they are TOMATOES.

    If you actually gave the fetus that bodily autonomy you care so much about it would literally die, because that’s sort of the defining characteristic of a fetus: it cannot survive independently.

    Fetus is at best a part of mothers’ body, like the appendix or the liver. At worst it is indeed a parasite (it uses resources of the host without contributing anything in return). It is not a person.

  164. Void says:

    Unz. Is it possible to send you something in private?

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  165. Void says:

    Well. Imagine how fucked we are. A whole bunch willing to trust their coming leaders who happens to eugenicists of high rung and meanwhile forcing the part having integrity to be grinded into the machinery.

  166. bogbeagle says:

    “The right to Vote.”

    Oh, you mean, “The right to take other men’s property for oneself.”

    Voting is the mechanism by which weak men steal from others.

    • Troll: Mulga Mumblebrain
  167. Tionico says:
    @lloyd

    quote: “The whites even fought a civil war to end black slavery. ”

    Not so at all. That war was a war based on economics. Tariffs imposed by the North were breaking the Suth, slavery not an issue. So the South removed itself from under that heel. A false flag “event” was staged to “trigger” the invasion of a sovereign foreign nation because WE WERE RIGHT and had to force them back under our heel.”. Remember, the Emancipation Proclamation did not fee one slave. And the way the North came in and turned everything upside down duirng “reconstruction” entrenched the racism so deeply it took another century to even begin to eradicate it. Maybe they were “free”under some semblance of law, but they certainly were anything BUT free throughout most of the South for generations.

    But thtis the same root as what we now see the same players doing with the Woo Flew. Submit!!! WE KNOW and you don’t. so sit down shut up, and roll your sleeve high up on your arm. To which “oadahs” I say NO. NO WAY. I am not ‘vaccine hesitant”. I am fully informd of the nature and etiology of that disease, the technology involve with that i jection and how it interacts (and does not) with the human body, the relative risk of the various side effects and adverse reactions likely or possible withintn MY body ( I know it well) and have had university level in depth traiing in viruses, how they spread, how they work insode the body immunity epidemiology, etc. So no, I am not “vaccine hesitant”. I am well informed, and see right through the lies foisted upon us by the bought and oaid for “medical community”. I understand the various mechainisms by which that virus operates inside the human body, and the “vaccine” cannot, and does not, roevent its entery, infection, spread, after effects, damage (shot and long term) alternate treatments that DO work (which are proscibed by the very ones raking in \$\$\$Bn via the promotion and adminsitration of the injections they are peddling. ). When a ten year old kid in Nicaragua or Columbia can walk down the stret in his villag,e walk into a “farmacia” or “quimico” plop down the rough equivelnt of thre US dollars, and walk out wiht a month’s suppy of HCQ, go home and give it to his Mama who is fighting off the WooFlew, and it will cure her 95% of the time in just a few days, IIF they caught it early enough.. something is WRONG with the “medical system” here in the USA.

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    , @lloyd
  168. @Zachary Smith

    In 1905 SCOTUS said the idea of mandatory vaccination was a STATE RIGHT. They said Massachusetts could force a man who did not take the Smallpox vaccine (note Smallpox is 30% deadly, 100 times deadlier than Covid-19) had to PAY \$5 (he was not forced into unemployment and forbidden from buying groceries). In the Fifth Circuit ruling against Biden’s vaccine mandate they quoted the 1905 decision and used it AGAINST the idea of mandatory vaccines. Last week the Senate voted 50-48 to end Biden’s vaccine mandate, showing this does NOT have legislative approval. The President (who many think stole the election) cannot bypass Congress and dictate “private companies” force medical treatments on employees (a crime against humanity). As you feign being a champion of “public health” (a Communist oxymoronic term) you are aiding and abetting coercion to avoid informed consent.

    • Thanks: Fart Blossom
  169. Void says:
    @Tionico

    Stefan Lankas offer to give anyone able to isolate a virus the hefty amount of 100 000 euro. Media as always lie about him losing the bet. Or leaving out it was taken Higher in court. But for some reason despite no isolation people for some reason gets the infection. What could possibly be at play here do you think?

  170. @Void

    But Pfizer though, they’re greedy swines and the more they earn the more they can corrupt and keep on poisoning.

    Exactly.

  171. @Athena

    Good comment. Given all that, one wonders why people choose to trust the pharm racketeers, especially since the foolishness is nothing new. Also notice how the FTC examiner must’ve been bought off:

    Following the January 1959 disclosure of the misleading Pfizer ad for Sigmamycin, the Federal Trade Commission issued the first unfair practice complaint in its history against an ethical drug house, with Pfizer as the defendant. An FTC trial examiner subsequently found Pfizer guilty of the practice complained of. But the examiner recommended dismissal of the complaint on the strength of a Pfizer pledge to avoid repetition of the offense, even though at the very moment of the dismissal recommendation a second misleading Pfizer ad—the one which substituted data about one drug to support another drug called Enarax— •was under FTC investigation. The FTC examiner’s recommendation to dismiss the Sigmamycin complaint has since been appealed. In the meanwhile, Pfizer admitted to the FTC that the Enarax drug that was being pushed in the second misleading ad had not been tested in as many cases as the ad claimed. But Pfizer insisted that this false claim did not constitute a misrepresentation of material fact and hence was not a violation of the law.

    Do We Need a Census of Worthless Drugs?
    by John Lear
    The Saturday Review, May 7, 1960, pp. 53-57
    https://www.unz.com/print/SaturdayRev-1960may07-00053/Contents/

    Many of the rest of Lear’s insights on the topic are definitely well worth reading and can be found in the Unz archives as well.

    • Replies: @Emerging Majority
  172. @raga10

    … a parasite (it uses resources of the host without contributing anything in return).

    That right there proves it’s a human, and an “elite” one at that. In fact your statement could be improved thusly, “it uses resources of the host without contributing anything beneficial in return.”

    One caveat would be that generally the “elite” are the parasites that contribute nothing of use to the rest of use (think Biden, Epstain, and Netanyahoo, for example) while I’m pretty sure that the fetus is involved in some sort of positive feedback loop if not more than one.

    Is it wrong, therefore, to abort the likes of them? Explain.

    BTW, since I like growing fresh tomatoes, can you tell me if they prefer classical to Mossad and CIA supported “rap” music aka disgusting degenerate noise or what?

    • Replies: @raga10
  173. Speaking of bodily autonomy, the first and worst violation of autonomy occurs on baby boys, and the men they will become, when they are circumcised a few days after leaving mother’s birth canal. Once routine male infant circumcision is normalized, and even (mistakenly) believed to be medically beneficial, it opens the door to the acceptance of other bodily modifications. Parental imposition of this experimental concoction on their children, which has been shown to cause harm to many, just being the most prominent at present. I doubt if many enlightened parents, who left their boys intact, turned around and had them “vaccinated” with this gene-altering formula, which doesn’t even work.

    • Replies: @Liza
    , @anarchyst
  174. @John Johnson

    But don’t kid yourself, if they had the power they would put every Cook on a train to a re-education camp. They know they are lying and that is why they are so dangerous.

    Most US conservatives live in their own heartland bubble and have no idea what they are dealing with…

    I grew up and went to school deep in lefty territory.

    I learned my first real life lesson the first day at my “elite” university.

    I walked up to my new neighbor (across the hall at the dorm), looked him in the eye, shook his hand and introduced myself to him.

    His response (with the coldest most evil stare I had even seen in my life) was these words:

    “I am a Marxist.”

    The guy couldn’t even say “hello” or give me his name.

    He was a vicious animal.

    That is what we are dealing with…

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  175. Wokechoke says:
    @raga10

    Flush all the darkies and mullato foetus’ and encourage white women to have their sprogs. I don’t mind certain people having abortions.

  176. Liza says:
    @follyofwar

    I doubt if many enlightened parents, who left their boys intact, turned around and had them “vaccinated” with this gene-altering formula, which doesn’t even work.

    I am sorry to advise that most people who would die before they have their boys denatured by way of foreskin ablation simply cannot make the leap into questioning inoculations of any variety.

    However, just about everyone I know (and have read about) who rejects jabbing their kids (they are few in number) also is opposed to circumcision. In other words, it is easy enough to reject the nasty cut once you are given information (including a closeup video of the operation c/w screaming boy) – but it takes a stronger character to reject vaccines. Such is the power of the vaccine propaganda or maybe I should say the attractiveness of the idea that illness is always caused by something else, i.e., “germs” of all sorts – never your own behavior.

    I am of course talking about nonjewish/nonmuslim circumcision here.

    • Thanks: follyofwar
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  177. @Kirk Patrick

    Worthy general insights. You lose me, though, with the words…”being a champion of ‘public health’ (a Communist oxymoron term). The wise course may be to re-consider that confusing combination of ingredients product and do a modest re-write for the purpose of clarity.

  178. @Fart Blossom

    In a liberated America, the word “Pfizer” would immediately transform into “Fizzler”.

  179. @Liza

    Alleged “authority” must always be questioned. “Normalcy” is quite as invidious as “progressive”. Consider, for a moment, how many people unquestioningly succumbed to the “suggestion” of taking flu-shots.

    Unthinkingly accepting those flu jabs, was a calculated warm-up for the Covidity boosters all brought to us by the wonderful folks at Pfizer and Moderna. Yes, it is quite conceivable that an agenda does exist and what better way to grease the skids than to develop public acceptance of prophylactic , pharmaceutical panaceas.

    Neonatal sexual assault on innocent boychilds has succeeded in imposing a fear-meme upon the unconscious or subconscious processes of a dwindling majority of American males. Fear is the implicit underlying component for acceptance of the jab.

  180. @H. Ph. Vogel

    Yes, left and right are become obsolete terms. I think the process of what I will call ‘the far centre’ was in large part predicated on the deep centrism of the Clinton/Blair settlement. Parties of both left and right – e.g. the British Labour party and the US democratic party – have fused into a centrist globalist blob. It is what I would characterised as being the far-centre. And it is the same the world over. The globalists, neoliberals and neo-cons have emerged resembling a total opposition which has now arisen ” … and a new generation dedicated more than the last to the fear of poverty worship of success and grown up to find all Gods dead, all wars fought, all faiths in man shaken.”

    (F. Scott Fitzgerald – This Side of Paradise.)

  181. lloyd says: • Website
    @Tionico

    You don’t seem to have given history the same objective in depth study you have to virology. The slavery issue had taken over American politics and society as if every issue was determined by slavery versus abolition. The southern plantation owners who dominated Southern politics had become somewhat dog in the manger, even pushing for slavery where it was in their interests not to do so. In the north, it had become the cause de celebre. John Brown did not stage his insurrection to enforce tariffs. Abe Lincoln was desperate to preserve the Union but he left no doubts his detestation of slavery and his desire for its ending without bloodshed. I suppose it would be like saying the abortion issue is really an economic issue over cosmetic and medicinal uses of aborted foetuses.

  182. raga10 says:
    @Fart Blossom

    I’m pretty sure that the fetus is involved in some sort of positive feedback loop if not more than one.

    I don’t think it is; at most it elicits production of some feel-good hormones in mother’s body. You can see that as parasite’s surival trick more than a positive feedback loop, though. That too is quite similar to what the elite parasites might do, to continue with your analogy!

    Is it wrong, therefore, to abort the likes of them? Explain.

    It is perfectly fine to abort the likes of them. I believe someone said about Eminem that he was the living proof that abortions should be not only legal but in some cases retroactive as well 🙂

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  183. @raga10

    Hardly original. The great Gough Whitlam said the same back in 73, when the world was wide and hopeful. He said ‘retrospective’, but was a stickler for words.

    • Replies: @raga10
  184. @Kirk Patrick

    If you want a pithy summation of the sub-fascistic mentality that has turned the richest country on Earth into a Hell-hole of inequality, poverty, misery, psychological distress, drug addiction and internecine hatred, the description of ‘public health’, an unambiguous good in all civilized, HUMAN, societies, as ‘a Communist oxymoronic term’, surely is it. And this shit-hole disguised as a society STILL insists that the rest of the world MUST follow its example-OR ELSE!

  185. @Void

    They were pictures, very few, in a city of eleven million, where everyone has a phone camera, and a nassty virus was about, in a population where many of the old had been heavy smokers all their life, and air pollution has been bad for decades. NOTHING to see, here, just Sinophobic hysteria, as ever.

    • Replies: @Void
  186. @RobinG

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/busted-cnn-reports-first-omicron-death-texas-hospital-says-not-true-video/

    To echo Johnny Smoggins, dying after having a positive Covid-19 test can NOT be taken to mean that he died OF Covid-19.

    This is not complicated, RobinG. For instance:

    – Most that die of C19 have multiple comorbidities that may also be the cause of death
    – The PCR tests give many false positives
    – Standard treatment in many hospitals (remdesivir, sedatives, ventilators) has killed many people.

    In this case, maybe he did die of C19, maybe he didn’t. We don’t know. For instance, maybe he was asymptomatic, but had a heart attack. Maybe he was a false positive that died of cancer.

    Pretty simple. Yet time after time those of us interested in making and promoting careful, accurate assesment of reality must correct sloppy thinking like yours. Why is that?

    As you say,

    Very sad, this is the way you make your case.

    I’d suggest you invest the time to watch the outstanding interview that Joe Rogan did with top MD Peter McCullough on Dec. 8 (assuming you care about understanding what is going on).
    https://rumble.com/vqx8ma-dr-peter-mccullough-with-joe-rogan-the-joe-rogan-experience-1747.html

  187. Jim Crint says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    I listed them.
    Can’t you read what I wrote?
    Or do you just insult?

    As well as vaccines:
    Strict entry control with up to 21 days quarantine. Foreigners basically can get in only with a work permit
    Local lockdowns to clear up spasmodic outbreaks which all originate outside the country
    a test and trace system which works
    Green code on mobile phones bearing test and vaccination records
    Massive testing when an occurrence theatens to spread. A few months ago here in Shenzhen all 17 million were tested three weeks running and the outbreak was controlled.

    • Replies: @Rev. Spooner
  188. raga10 says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    He said ‘retrospective’, but was a stickler for words.

    Then he was incorrect – ‘retroactive’ is exactly the word I needed here.

    “Retrospective” has to do with looking back, as is shown by the similarity of its middle syllable to words like “spectacles.” A retrospective exhibit looks back at the earlier work of an artist.

    “Retroactive,” on the other hand, refers to actions, and is about making a current change applicable to the past, especially in law.
    https://brians.wsu.edu/2016/05/25/retrospective-retroactive/

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  189. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @Numa

    Abortion should be an absolute right. Homonculus theories are superstitous nonsense. Legal rights should not exist prior to personality development, approximately 12 months.—#129 Numa

    Yummy! What do you figure, we taste more like veal… or chicken tenders?

    • Replies: @IreneAthena
  190. IreneAthena says: • Website
    @IreneAthena

    Welp, there I went and ruined Numa’s next trip to McD’s. Naughty, naughty IreneAthena.

  191. @Jim Crint

    Ok, so you are fine with lockdowns and covid passports as well as curtailing of freedoms due to a sickness that has 0.03 % mortality rate. You are fine to let a country slide into unemployment, let the middle class and the poor suffer.

    You didn’t read the “The Great Barrington declariton ” (google it) where three eminent viroligists suggested that locking people was a wrong strategy. They advised that only the vulnerable should be protected and isolated and the rest of us should brave it out.

    This obviously wasn’t in the interest of Big Pharma, which has captured all regulatury government agencies as well as the WHO and is all out to jab the whole world with unproven and potentially dangerous vaccines that cost a lot.

    Six months to six years before we will see mass dying of the vaccinated.

    Ivermectin ended it India and Japan and the Omicron virus will end it in the whole world as it’s just like a common cold.

  192. Liza says:
    @Emerging Majority

    The intact male organ is naturally suited for man-woman intercourse.

    Quite a few years ago a male acquaintance of mine, who was struggling with the aftereffects of a badly done infant circumcision (they are all bad in my eyes but you know what I mean), loaned me a book he had bought entitled Sex As Nature Intended It by Kristen O’Hara. I understand that there is now a second edition by Jeffrey & Krisen O’Hara but I have not read it.

    As to sex practices in cut vs uncut, somebody pointed me toward this medical report published in the Journal of the American Medical Association:

    http://www.cirp.org/library/general/laumann/

    I’d say that people function best in all areas of life with all their naturally occurring parts. Yes, you can live, you can still hear and see (imperfectly, mind you) without outer ears or eyelids – but should you have to?

  193. @Liza

    Thank you for the link, Liza. It looks to be most useful. Each time we posters share information on this infamous ritual it causes more readers, particularly lurkers, to reconsider preconceptions they may have held.

    It may be especially helpful for those individuals who may have some influence with young women who are soon about to give birth. It is a matter of personal choice and my personal advice to those women (and their partners) is that nobody owns another human being and that neonatal removal of a critical element of the male anatomy should be left to that individual when he attains an age when he can make his own decision.

    Bodily integrity of a newborn should never be the choice of those who insist that MY baby son needs to be like daddy.

    • Thanks: Liza
  194. Void says:
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Maybe. Still. I am not too fond of any leader mandating those jabs. Reason is what people been seeing around the globe is the consequences of the 5G entry. Everytime there’s change in electromagnetic fields the body ends up detoxying itself afterward. This happened for exactly all other countries doing the same 6 months afterward. Same happened when RADAR was introduced over the world. So there’s really not a virus. The body may excrete something considered a virus but it’s actually not infectious. The germtheory isn’t really true but it’s a persistant myth to justify vaccination. It hurts to say this but what’s really done over the world is depopulation ackording to Agenda 20 or 30.
    Notice all so called vaccines usually contain something increasing conductivity like aluminium and now maybe graphene oxide. Full length spike protein damage s DNA repair. What’s really is on the way is what’s referred to as the New World Order. It’s a horrible insight which got to me 2 weeks ago out of nothing. I can’t do anything about this 5G radiation or intervean but the standard germtheory has always been a front for eugenics and depopulation which people like Gates is into. I want you guys to come healthy out of this that’s why I recommend you abstaining from any offered jab. If you want to know my main source of information is spacebusters at bitchute. He’s a genius or me an idiot. Take care until next

  195. @Liza

    Sexual reproduction is c.200 million years old. We have few older attributes, like backbones, lungs and other organs. But a couple of thousand years ago some lunatic decided to improve on nature, with males, then an even worse mad-man decided that women had better not enjoy sex, too much, so decided that the clitoris was redundant. All, one imagines, on ‘God’s orders’.

    • Agree: Liza
  196. @raga10

    A contest in intellect between you and Gough would be like putting Mr. Puniverse up against Mike Tyson in his prime.

  197. anarchyst says:
    @follyofwar

    Start by redefining “circumcision” as “male genital mutilation” which removes the sterile clinical description from this barbaric “procedure” and rightly calls it for what it is.
    The only reason for its prevalence in the USA is to shield jews from identification as much of the gentile population has had this procedure performed on them.
    Removing a healthy body part (foreskin) without medical necessity is just wrong and should be prohibited.
    If jews want to have it done, they can go to israel…

    • Agree: follyofwar
    • Replies: @Emerging Majority
  198. @anarchyst

    It came close in Denmark which has long had a strong children’s rights movement. The move to ban the Unkindest Cut, was defeated in Parliament. One wonders how many blackmail and bribery chits were called on the parliamentarians.

    Had it passed—against the unified opposition of both organized Judaism and Muslims–there would have been little problem for those minorities to travel a few miles across the water from Kobenhavn to Malmo in Sweden to get the procedure done…or to have gone a short distance in the other direction to Germany–still occupied by the U\$ military—where there would have been no difficulty in getting the cut in the land of the whipped puppies.

  199. @WingsofADove

    Right
    I found the article so great , except for those few parts about eating your child sacrifice with gin and tonic

    It was the greatest sort of coercion to feel this gentle persuasion,just a small prick…
    Safe and Effective, just a little pinprick

    Persuasion is coercion
    Fetal tissue ain’t Vegan
    I mean. We can be nice about it if u are willing to cooperate with your own murder

    Such a great article, and thanks for your comment I was looking for that thing to respond to I hadn’t quite seen, you got it

    Now back to an after dinner snack

    I hear they gonna make them monthly, weekly and by the end of 02 daily dose of disease mandatory

    They got them mandated for 5-11year old kids in the Homeland here while they are not recommended for 5-11 in uk
    But Boris is just the worst sort of liar ass whore ever, and what is with that Crapitalism hairdo a his? A y f k? F f ‘ sake

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
  200. RobinG says:

    Arguments about whose bodily autonomy has primacy – a woman’s or the foetus she is carrying – are at the heart of ongoing and inflammatory abortion debates in the United States.

    Not really. At the heart is some religious invocation of a soul, even before there is a fetus. (If these people really believed their mystical mumbo-jumbo, they’d acknowledge that their precious souls go straight to heaven without the travails of mortal strife.)

  201. @Wokechoke

    ScKamala is of the similarly Persuay school as this author

    How great to be insulted by being persuaded instead of cajoled

    ScKamala works for a dude who says we gonna die this nice death soon if we ain’t hacksxxinated

    See I tried to put 3 exess for the booster
    Hacksxxxinated, 4 in Israel

    Where does it end?

    Ah, they gave London the mayor of SF emergency powers today at a Board of Supervisors meeting she didn’t go to, why bother

    They voted to let her do anything she wants, she gonna decide later. Blank check is an especially great gift to London, emergency ability to arrest those who don’t accept help…

    What constitution? The BoS voted it in 8-2, so that makes it legal , like . But you know I must have misunderstood …they wouldn’t just go destroy the city on a whim and a scare?

  202. @raga10

    Fetus is at best a part of mothers’ body, like the appendix or the liver. At worst it is indeed a parasite (it uses resources of the host without contributing anything in return). It is not a person.

    So at 9 months your mom considered you a parasite? When does it become a person?

  203. @Justvisiting

    Most US conservatives live in their own heartland bubble and have no idea what they are dealing with…

    I grew up and went to school deep in lefty territory.

    I also went to college in a left-wing area.

    I had to take math or hard science courses to get a break from leftism. Anything related to history or English contained Western/White bashing. In fact if you didn’t work some type of blame or guilt into your paper then you could expect to be graded down. The world was constantly depicted as having inequality because of White men controlling everyone and holding back progress. We were taught that a new age was around the corner because White men would no longer be in control. Africa would modernize and there would be equal outcomes in all areas (except maybe sports).

    Later I learned that the professors don’t actually believe in racial equality. They have seen too much counter evidence in their own students. But they support lying about genetics and doing whatever it takes to denigrate Whites and especially White men. Reality had made them bitter and they took out their frustrations on White male students even if they were left leaning.

    The left-wing students were even worse. Most would be annoyed if you asked them anything about politics. You’re supposed to “just know” (feel) what is correct. At some point I decided to steer clear of them entirely after dealing with a couple behind the scenes. People that haven’t been to college imagine these left-wing students discussing Marx over coffee. In reality some were extremely nihilistic and mentally unstable. Conservatives imagine them as being intellectually dishonest in their arguments but otherwise normal and keeping the discussions to class. In reality they would do stuff like start a rumor about a conservative student going on a rant about naggers in the cafeteria. Some “nice guy” conservative student that had no idea he was dealing with wolves.

    Conservatives project all kinds of gentlemanly attributes to the left. I remember meeting a Beria type that I could tell was annoyed by intellectual arguments and would prefer to just get to the killing. That is about when I decided to disconnect from campus politics.

  204. E. F. says:

    Pathetic:

    Getting Covid booster follows ‘teaching of Jesus Christ’, says Boris Johnson

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/dec/24/covid-booster-jab-boris-johnson-christmas-message

  205. @Grasshopper Kaplan

    Just as the gene therapy injection ghouls are targeting children, for profit or mass culling, or both, who knows, suddenly there appear various ‘paediatricians’ declaring that omicron, harmless everywhere else, is targeting children in the USA. If you believe THAT one, I have an Opera House you might like to peruse. Great Caesar’s Ghost-these bastards are EVIL.

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