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Senior BBC news reporter Orla Guerin has found herself in hot water of an increasingly familiar kind. During a report on preparations for the commemoration of the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz concentration camp, she made a brief reference to Israel and an even briefer reference to the Palestinians. Her reporting coincided with Israel hosting world leaders last week at Yad Vashem, its Holocaust remembrance centre in Jerusalem.

Here is what Guerin said over footage of Yad Vashem:

“In Yad Vashem’s Hall of Names, images of the dead. Young [Israeli] soldiers troop in to share in the binding tragedy of the Jewish people. The state of Israel is now a regional power. For decades, it has occupied Palestinian territories. But some here will always see their nation through the prism of persecution and survival.”

British Jewish community leaders and former BBC executives leapt on her “offensive” remarks, even accusing her of antisemitism. Guerin had dared, unlike any of her colleagues in the western media, to allude to the terrible price inflicted on the Palestinian people by the west’s decision to help the Zionist movement create a Jewish state shortly after the Holocaust. The Palestinians were dispossessed of their homeland as apparent compensation – at least for those Jews who became citizens of Israel – for Europe’s genocidal crimes.

Guerin’s was a very meek – bland even – reference to the predicament of the Palestinians after Europe’s sponsorship, from the 1917 Balfour Declaration onwards, of a Jewish state on their homeland. There was no mention of the Palestinians’ undoubted suffering over many decades or of Israel’s documented war crimes against the Palestinians. All that Guerin referred to was an indisputable occupation that followed, and one could argue was a legacy of, Israel’s creation.

Holocaust weaponised

In fact, as we shall see in a moment, Israel’s establishment is today invariably and necessarily justified by antisemitism and its ultimate, horrifying expression in the Holocaust. The two are now inextricably intertwined. So Guerin’s linking of these two events is not only legitimate, it is required in any proper analysis of the consequences of the Holocaust and of European racism.

In fact, the furore among Jewish groups in Britain seems all the more perverse given that the Israeli media have extensively reported on Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s explicit efforts to weaponise the current Holocaust commemorations to harm the Palestinians.

He hopes to leverage sympathy over the Holocaust to win assistance from western capitals in bullying the International Criminal Court in the Hague into denying that it has any jurisdiction over the Palestinian territories Israel is occupying. That would prevent the court from enforcing international law by investigating war crimes perpetrated by Israel against the Palestinians. (In fact, aware of the diplomatic stakes, the ICC’s prosecutors have so far shown zero appetite for pursuing those investigations.)

This extract from a commentary by noted Israeli human rights activist Hagai El-Ad, published in the liberal Israeli newspaper Haaretz (Israel’s version of the New York Times), gives a proper sense of how inadequate was Guerin’s solitary reference to the Palestinians – and how her colleagues are actually complicit through their silence in allowing Israel to weaponise antisemitism and the Holocaust to oppress Palestinians:

“How dehumanizing [of Netanyahu and the Israeli government], to insist on denying a people’s last recourse to even an uncertain, belated, modicum of justice [at the ICC]. How degrading to do so while standing on the shoulders of Holocaust survivors, insisting that this is somehow being carried out in their name. …

“It remains in our hands to decide if the past’s painful lessons will be allowed to be turned on their head in order to further oppression – or remain loyal to a vision of freedom and dignity, justice and rights, for all.”

History in the shadows

By not echoing the rest of the western media in entirely airbrushing the Palestinians out of Europe’s post-Holocaust history, Guerin stood isolated and exposed. None of her colleagues – supposedly fearless, muckraking journalists – appear willing to come to her aid. She has been made a scapegoat, a sacrificial victim – one that will serve as a future reminder to her colleagues of what they are permitted to mention, which parts of Europe’s history they may examine and which parts must remain forever in the shadows.

Guerin’s comment was denounced as “offensive” by her former boss, Danny Cohen, who was previously the director of BBC television. No one, of course, cares that the Palestinians’ experience of being wiped out of recent European history and its legacy in the Middle East is deeply offensive. The Palestinians are what historian Mark Curtis refers to as “Unpeople”.

What he and others meant by “offensive” was made explicit by the Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA), which argued that Guerin’s statement was antisemitic.

The CAA is one of the groups that, using similarly twisted logic, led the attacks on the British Labour party over claims of antisemitism in its ranks under leader Jeremy Corbyn. It helped to foist a highly problematic new definition of antisemitism on the party that downgrades concerns about racism directed at Jews to prioritise a supposedly bigger crime: criticism of Israel. The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance’s definition offers 11 examples of antisemitism, seven of which refer to Israel rather than Jews.

Preposterously, the CAA alleged that Guerin had violated one of these examples. It said her report had included “drawing comparisons between Israeli policy and the Nazis”. Very clearly, she had done no such thing.

Erasing the record

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The most that could be inferred from Guerin’s extremely vague, overly cautious remark was two things. First, that Israel justifies the need for a Jewish state on the threat to Jews posed by antisemitism (as evidenced by the Holocaust). And second, that the resulting state of Israel has inflicted a very high price on the Palestinians, who had to be displaced from their homeland to make that state achievable. At no point did Guerin make a comparison between the suffering of Jews in the Holocaust and the suffering of Palestinians.

She simply, and rightly, hinted at a chain of related events: European racism towards Jews culminated in the Holocaust; the Holocaust was used by the Zionist movement to justify European sponsorship of a Jewish state on the ruins of Palestine; Palestinians and their supporters feel aggrieved that the Holocaust has become a pretext for ignoring their plight and suppressing criticism of Israel. Each of those links is irrefutably true. And unless the truth is now antisemitic – and there is mounting evidence that it is being made so by Israel, its lobbyists and western governments – what Guerin said was not conceivably antisemitic.

It may seem obvious why Israel and its lobbyists would want to silence criticism, or even a basic historical understanding, of the context and consequences of Israel’s founding. But why are western officials evidently so keen to aid Israel in this project of erasing the historical record?

Israel could never have been established without the expulsion of 750,000 Palestinians from their homeland and the destruction of hundreds of their villages to prevent any return. That is why a growing number of historians have risked the wrath of the Israel lobby to declare these events ethnic cleansing – in other words, war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Western hypocrisy

Let us note that the circumstances in which Israel was created were not exceptional – at least, from the point of view of recent western history. In fact, Israel is an example of a typical settler colonial state. In other words, its creation depended on the replacement of the native population by a group of settlers, just as occurred when Europeans founded colonies in the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and elsewhere.

The difficulty for Israel and its western allies has been that Israel’s crimes are being committed in the modern era, at a time when the west has claimed to have learnt the lessons both of its colonial past and of the Second World War. In the post-war period the west promised to change its ways, with a new commitment to international law and the recognition of human rights.

The shameful irony about the west’s complicity in Israel’s creation is that Israel could only have been established through the dispossession and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people. Those outrages occurred in the very same year that, via the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, western states pledged to create a different, better world.

In other words, Israel was launched as an old-style western colonial project at the very moment when the western powers promised to decolonise, giving their colonies independence. Israel was embarrassing proof of the west’s hypocrisy in promising to break with its colonial past. It was evidence of bad faith from the outset. The west used Israel to outsource its colonialism, to bypass the new limitations it claimed to have imposed on itself.

A colonial spin-off

So committed were the western powers to Israel’s success that France and Britain helped it from the late 1950s to build a nuclear arsenal – the only one in the Middle East – in violation of the Non-Proliferation Treaty. Predictably, that further destabilised an already highly volatile region as other states, especially Iraq and Iran, considered trying to level the playing field by developing their own nuclear weapons.

In another sign of the west’s commitment to this colonial spin-off was its determination to turn a blind eye in 1967 to Israel’s greedy expansion of its borders in conquering the rest of historic Palestine. For more than half a century Israel has been given free rein to entrench its occupation and to build settlements in violation of international law. All these decades later the International Criminal Court is still dragging its heels – indefinitely, it seems – rather than prosecute Israel for settlements that are irrefuably a war crime. And more than 50 years on, Europe continues to subsidise the settlements through trade agreements and a refusal even to label settlement products.

Rather than account for these outrageous violations of an international order the west founded, Israel’s allies have helped to obscure or pervert this real history. Israel has developed a whole industry, hasbara, to try to prevent outsiders from grasping what has happened since 1948.

It is therefore important for Israel and its western allies to promote justifications for Israel’s creation that appeal to emotion, not reason, as a way to dissuade observers from delving too seriously into the past. In fact, there are only three possible justifications / explanations for the transformation of what was once Palestine into Israel, a state created by and for European Jews on the ruins of Palestine. Two of these rationales play extremely poorly in the modern west.

That leaves only the third justification, as Guerin intimated in her report, and one that resonates well in an age saturated with identity politics.

A Biblical promise

The first justification says that the Zionist movement was entitled to rid Palestine of the overwhelming majority of its Palestinian natives because God promised Jews the land of Palestine thousands of years ago. This argument tells Palestinians: Your family may have lived for centuries or even millennia in Nazareth, Nablus, Bethlehem, Beersaba, Jerusalem, Jaffa, Hebron, Haifa but that counts for nought because God told Abraham the land belonged to the Jews.

Let us not discount the continuing power of this argument. It was what inspired the 19th century, apocalyptic movement of Christian Zionism – a longing for the “restoration” of Jews to the Promised Land to bring about an end-times in which only true Christians would be saved.

Later, Christian Zionism was repurposed and adopted by small numbers of influential Jews like Theodor Herzl who realised they needed the support of Christian Zionist elites if they were ever to build a Jewish state. They finally found a sponsor in colonial Britain. In part, it was an appetite for Biblical prophecy that guided the British cabinet in approving the Balfour Declaration.

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Today, much teaching in Israel depends on unspoken, unexamined claims in the Bible that Jews have a superior right to the land than Palestinians. Nonetheless, Israeli officials know that nowadays Biblical arguments hold little sway in much of the west. Outside Israel such claims play well only with evangelicals, mostly in the US, and have therefore been deployed selectively, targeted chiefly at US President Donald Trump’s base. For the rest of us, the Biblical rationale is quietly set aside.

White man’s burden

The second justification, frequently resorted to in the early years of the Zionist project, was a fully fledged colonial one, and closely tied to ideas about a superior Judeo-Christian civilisation.

Colonialism assumed that white westerners were a biologically separate race that had to assume responsibility for taming and civilising the savage nature of inferior peoples around the planet. These inferior beings were treated like children – seen as impulsive, backward, even self-destructive. They needed a role model in the white man whose job was to discipline them, re-educate them and impose order. The white man was compensated for the heavy burden he had to shoulder by awarding himself the right to plunder the savage people’s resources. In any case, it was assumed, these barbarians were incapable of managing their affairs or putting their own resources to any good use.

If all this sounds improbably racist, remember that Trump right now is proposing a variation of the same idea: Mexicans must pay for the wall that keeps them out of a white America, even as US corporations continue to exploit cheap Mexican labour; and ungrateful Iraqis are threatened with being made to pay for the soldiers that invaded their country and the US military bases that oversee their occupation.

Liberals are no less averse to colonial ideas. The white man’s burden underpins the “humanitarian intervention” project and the related, endless “war on terror”. It has been easy to paint other states and their peoples negatively as they continue to reel from centuries of colonial interference – the theft of resources, the imposition of artificial borders that stoke internal, tribal conflict, and western support for local dictators and strongmen.

Developing states have also struggled to prosper in a world dominated by western colonial institutions, whether NATO, the World Bank, the IMF or the UN Security Council. Doomed to failure by the very rules rigged to ensure the western powers alone prosper, developing states find their dysfunctional or authoritarian politics turned against them, used to justify continuing invasion, plunder and control of their resources by the west.

‘Death to the Arabs’

Whatever Zionism claims, Israel was not an antidote to this “white man’s burden” ideology. It was an extension of it. Much of Europe may have been deeply racist towards Jews, but Europe’s Jews were usually viewed as higher in the racial hierarchy than black, brown or yellow people. Typically Jews were despised or feared by antisemites not because they were seen as backward or primitive but because they were presented as too clever, or as manipulative, secretive and untrustworthy.

The Zionist movement sought to exploit this racism. Its founders, white European Jews, impressed on potential sponsors their ability to help colonise the Middle East on behalf of the European powers. After the Balfour Declaration was issued, the British government put the Colonial Office in charge of shaping a Jewish “home” in Palestine.

An indication of the degree to which European ideas of racial categories polluted the thinking of the early Zionist movement can be gauged by the treatment of the Mizrahim – Jews from neighbouring Arab states who arrived in the wake of Israel’s creation.

The Ashkenazi (European) Jews who founded Israel had no interest in these Jews until the destruction of large parts of European Jewry in the Nazi death camps. Then the Mizrahim were needed to bolster Jewish demographic numbers against the Palestinians. Founding father David Ben Gurion was disparaging of the Mizrahim, terming them “human dust”. There were vigorous debates inside the Israeli army about whether the supposedly inferior, backward Arab Jews could ever have their savage natures tamed sufficiently to serve usefully as soldiers.

Israel launched an aggressive campaign to de-Arabise the children of these Jews – so successfully that today, even though Mizrahim constitute half of Israel’s Jewish population, less than 1% of Israeli Jews can read a book in Arabic. So complete has their re-education been that Mizrahi supporters of the Beitar Jerusalem football club lead chants of “Death to the Arabs” at the ground, apparently unaware that their grandparents were Arab in every sense of the word.

Virus of hatred?

Again, Israel and its western allies understand that few observers will accept overtly colonial-style justifications for Israel’s creation, except of the vague, war-on-terror kind. Such arguments run counter to the spirit of the times. Nowadays western elites prefer to pay lip service to identity politics, intersectionality, native rights – at least if they can be used to provide cover for white privilege and to disrupt class solidarity.

Israel has proven particularly adept at inverting and weaponising this form of identity politics. Now deprived of traditional Biblical and colonial rationales, Israel has been left with only one palatable argument to justify its crimes against Palestinians. A Jewish state is supposedly needed as inoculation against a global plague of antisemitism. Israel, it claims, is a vital sanctuary to protect Jews from inevitable future Holocausts.

Palestinians are not just collateral damage of the European project to create a Jewish “home”. They are also presented as a new breed of antisemite – their anger supposedly driven by irrational, inexplicable hatred – that Jews need protecting from. In Israel, roles of oppressor and victim have been reversed.

Israel is only too keen to extend the accusation of antisemitism to any western critic who champions the Palestinian cause. In fact, it has gone much further. It argues that, whether consciously or not, all non-Jews harbour the virus of antisemitism. Other Holocausts have been averted only because nuclear-armed Israel behaves like “a mad dog, too dangerous to bother”, as Israel’s most famous military chief of staff, Moshe Dayan, once declared. Israel is designed as a garrison state for its Jews, and an impregnable bolt-hole in time of trouble for any Jews who foolishly – Israeli leaders imply – have not understood that they face another Holocaust outside Israel.

White European racism

This is the self-rationalising appeal of antisemitism for Israel. But it has proved the perfect weapon too for western elites who wish to besmirch their opponents’ arguments, as Corbyn, Labour’s outgoing leader, found to his cost. Just as the Zionist movement and its Jewish state project were once the favoured vehicle for spreading British colonial influence in the Middle East, today Israel is the favoured vehicle for impugning the motives of those who criticise western imperialism or advocate for political alternatives to capitalism, such as socialism.

Few outside Israel understand the implications of the mischievous, self-serving antisemitism rationale crafted long ago by Israel and now embraced by western officials. It assumes that antisemitism is a virus present in all non-Jews, even if often lies dormant. Non-Jews must remain vigilant to prevent it reviving and infecting their thinking.

This was at the heart of the claims against the British Labour party. So-called “extreme leftists” like Corbyn and his supporters, so the argument goes, were so sure of their anti-racism credentials that they dropped their guard. Largely free of a fear of immigrants and non-white populations, they mixed with British Muslims and Arabs whose attitudes and ideas were easily passed on. Arab and Muslim resentment towards Israel – again, presented as inexplicable – supposedly provided fertile soil for the growth of antisemitism on the left and in Corbyn’s Labour party.

Guerin’s mistake was to hint, even if briefly and vaguely, in her report at a deeper, even more discomforting recent history of European white racism that not only fuelled the Holocaust but also sponsored the dispossession of the Palestinians of their homeland to make room for a Jewish state.

The connecting thread of that story is not antisemitism. It is white European racism. And the fact that Israel and its supporters have signed up as cheerleaders for that kind of racism makes it no less white and no less racist.

This essay first appeared on Jonathan Cook’s blog: https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/

Cook won the Martha Gellhorn Special Prize for Journalism. His books include “Israel and the Clash of Civilisations: Iraq, Iran and the Plan to Remake the Middle East” (Pluto Press) and “Disappearing Palestine: Israel’s Experiments in Human Despair” (Zed Books). His website is www.jonathan-cook.net.

(Republished from Jonathan Cook by permission of author or representative)
 
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  1. Willem says:

    ‘ Guerin had dared, unlike any of her colleagues in the western media, to allude to the terrible price inflicted on the Palestinian people by the west’s decision to help the Zionist movement create a Jewish state shortly after the Holocaust’

    Given the brevity of the comment, I find it just as likely that she just read what was presented at the telescreen. She and the BBC might get some flak, but on the other side, they can claim that they still are objective, showing viewpoints of all sides, which makes the BBC, of course, very ‘good’ in journalistic reporting and Guerin a ‘decent’ person, who for that reason we also have to believe on all other propaganda that they try to push through our throats.

    I wonder why Johnathan Cook cannot see through this charade or at least mentions this alternative viewpoint? He surely acts like a limited hangout.

    • Replies: @Moi
  2. Wally says:

    “She simply, and rightly, hinted at a chain of related events: European racism towards Jews culminated in the Holocaust”

    – That is a totally uneducated, illogical, & unsupportable conclusion when there is no proof of the impossible “holocaust” narrative …. as has been demonstrated repeatedly at this site and elsewhere. Links upon request.

    – What we do have is an irrational, yet highly profitable “holocaust” religion.

    – new videos:
    Holocaust Typhus and Zyklon B: https://codoh.com/library/document/7140/?lang=en

    Dachau Push Button Gas Chamber Fake News: https://codoh.com/library/document/7139/?lang=en

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  3. refl says:

    To see the extend to which I have been spoilt!

    Every time I read “Holocaust” in this text, and that was like every fifth word or so, at least in the upper section, the word transscribes as “Holohoax” in front of my very eyes.
    Now, I absolutely respect Jonathan Cook’s writing, which I would recommend as a primer to anyone with a Zionist infection, but take the holothing out of the equation and you see, just how hollow it all gets.

    And it goes on:
    To state that Britain and France helped Israel with its nuclear weapons without mentioning that a US-president was bumped off in plain daylight to get it done.
    To compare Colonisation in Australia and New Zealand with the foundation of Israel, when those examples arguably at least achieved some superior civilisation that over time at least tried to pay back to the indigenous people, while Israel in fact destroyed the craddle of western spirituality.

    And then this:

    The Ashkenazi (European) Jews who founded Israel had no interest in these Jews until the destruction of large parts of European Jewry in the Nazi death camps. Then the Mizrahim were needed to bolster Jewish demographic numbers against the Palestinians.

    If we consider that the death toll of Jews in Nazi camps was far lower then is officialy stated, the question is why the middle eastern Jews were needed.
    Maybe, the numbers never added up and maybe, european Jews were just to scaandalized by zionist depravity to follow their calling, even after the war?

    I am sure, in fact, that the author knows all this, but he has to stay away from the depth of the rabbit hole to guard his sanity.

    To repeat, I have read some great texts of his and recommend his site. I do not dare to imagine the comments that will follow on this thread.

    • Replies: @Just passing through
  4. Crazy Horse says: • Website

    Interesting article. Very true that the truth has become “antisemitic”. I recommend the following book Facing West: The Metaphysics of Indian-Hating and Empire-Building:

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/373317.Facing_West?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=9mvjIcwhyc&rank=1

    Also it is very interesting that America supports Israel and also hypocritically claims that the Constitution separates the church and state while still upholding the religiously based and racist Doctrine of Discovery which is basically what Israel is currently using to illegally steal Palestine:

    https://doctrineofdiscovery.org

    https://www.ivpress.com/unsettling-truths

    Israel is nothing but Europe and America’s colonial satrap in the Middle East. This is evident.

  5. Adrian says:

    Guerin was of course exactly right. Israel is an occupier who insists on seeing itself, and being seen, as a victim. If it is criticized by others it sees itself as the target of“selective indignation”. Why pick on Israel, they argue, when elsewhere, notably in Darfur and Congo, human rights violations have led to a far greater number of victims.

    One such critic is theutch-Jewish novelist and columnist Leon de Winter. He came up with this beauty for instance:

    By demonizing Israel’s six million Jews, even though they are merely defending themselves against an enemy motivated by blind religious hatred, Europe is expressing its burning desire to at last get rid of the six million dead. Europe will not forgive the Jews the burden of Auschwitz.

      That is why the hundreds killed in Gaza are so much more significant in Europe than the millions who have died in Darfur and Congo. Just like other human beings, Jews didn’t learn much from history, but they know one thing for sure: it repeats itself.

    So, from this point of view, Israel’s crimes are welcome to its European critics because it helps them to deal with their supposed guilt feelings about the holocaust. That is also why they have no interest in what is happening in Darfur but follow what is going on in Israel with Argus eyes.

    Mind you referring to the atrocities in Darfur is only welcome when Israel can hide behind these. It is most unwelcome as far as Jewish suffering, as far as the holocaust is concerned – because that is supposedly unique and incomparable,

    It seems to me that the real situation is exactly the reverse. Large scale genocide has happened in history before but Israel, as Michael Neumann has argued, is unique in its deliberate and calculated sadism, a “squeaky clean” sadism”. It is also unique in that, in spite of that. it insists on what it sees as its rightful place among civilised nations- and is in official relations and MSM publicity often granted that place.

    Neumann wrote a good article on this as far back as 2002. I have chosen a few fragments of
    it:

    “ by the mid-1970s, Israel’s crimes were no longer the normal atrocities of nation-building nor an excessive sort of self-defense. They represented a cold-blooded, calculated, indeed an embraced choice of war over peace, and an elaborate plan to seek out those who had fled the misery of previous confrontations, to make certain that their suffering would continue.

    Though we might wish otherwise, the political or historical ‘location’ of a crime can be a big contributor to its moral status. It is terrible that there are vestiges of slavery in Abidjan and Mauritania. We often reproach ourselves for not getting more upset about such goings-on, as if the lives of these far-off non-white people were unimportant. And maybe we should indeed be ashamed of ourselves, but this is not the whole story. There is a difference between the survival of evil in the world’s backwaters and its emergence in the world’s spotlight. If some smug new corporation, armed with political influence and snazzy lawyers, set up a slave market in Times Square, that would represent an even greater evil than the slave market in Abidjan. This is not because humans in New York are more important than humans in Abidjan, but because what happens in New York is more influential and more representative of the way the world is heading.

    What Israel does is at the very center of the world stage, not only as a focus of media attention, but also as representative of Western morality and culture. This could not be plainer from the constant patter about how Israel is a shining example of democracy, resourcefulness, discipline, courage, toughness, determination, and so on. And nothing could be more inappropriate than the complaints that Israel is being ‘held to a higher standard’. It is not being held to one; it aggressively and insolently appropriates it. It plants its flag on some cultural and moral summit. Israel is the ultimate victim-state of the ultimate people–the noblest, the most long-suffering, the most persecuted, the most intelligent, the Chosen Ones. The reason Israel is judged by a higher standard is its blithe certainty, accepted by generations of fawning Westerners, that it exists at a higher standard.

    Israel banks on this. Its tactics seem nicely tuned to inflict the most harm with the least damage to its image. They include deliberately messy surgical strikes, halting ambulances, uprooting orchards and olive groves, destroying urban sanitation, curfews, road closures, holding up food until it spoils, allocating five times the water to settlers as to the people whose land was confiscated, and attacks on educational or cultural facilities. Its most effective strategies are minimalist, as when Palestinians have to sit and wait at checkpoints for hours in sweltering cars, risking a bullet ifthey get out to stretch their legs, waiting to work, to get medical care, to do anything in life that requires movement from one place to another, as likely to be turned back as let through, and certain to suffer humiliation or worse. Israel has pioneered the science of making life unlivable with as little violence as possible. The Palestinians are not merely provoked into reacting; they have no rational choice but to react. If they didn’t, things would just get worse faster, with no hope of relief. Israel is an innovator in the search for a squeaky-clean sadism.”

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2002/07/06/what-s-so-bad-about-israel/

    But this too doesn’t seem to explain the whole story as far as anti-Israel actrivism is conerned but that is for another post.

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    , @Parfois1
  6. But has Orla Guerin learned her lesson?

  7. Ghali says:

    Surprising, Orla Guerin is a mouthpiece for the Israeli ragime. After all she works for the BBC, the propaganda organ that has been telling the British public that the Palestinian people and invading Israel.
    Recently, On 23 January 2020, Israel’s ardent supporters – kings, princes, presidents, and prime ministers –, including the U.S. the EU, Turkey and Russia (35 in total) gathered at Yard Vashem in Israeli-occupied Jerusalem to commemorate Jews (only) who died in World War II, the so-called “Nazi Holocaust”. It was an opportunity to grovel to Netanyahu and deflect attention away from a present Palestinian Holocaust and the much larger Auschwitz in Gaza. Despite the solemn occasion, the U.S. and Israeli regimes seemed bent on a war against the Islamic Republic of Iran. Indeed, Israeli and American Jews have spent much of the last 75 years using the “Holocaust” industry as a battering ram to bully Europeans and to justify the persecution of the Palestinian people. The Fascist Netanyahu used the occasion to again threaten to destroy Iran. Instead of comparing his Fascist regime with Nazi Germany, he had the audacity to compare Iran – which saved Jews many times in history – with Nazi Germany. It was Satan rebuking sin. Netanyahu reminded his “distinguished guests” that, Israel with its large arsenal of nuclear and chemical weapons will attack and destroy any country opposes to its criminal genocide. Israel current target is Iran. Israel has been pushing the U.S. to start a war in which American soldiers will die for Israel. As the world’s most hated regimes, the U.S. and Israel pose the greatest threat to humanity. Only their demise will allow humanity to live in peace and prosperity. The BBC was so colloborative it made the Israeli media look very left-wing.

    • Agree: Alfred
    • Replies: @Moi
    , @lloyd
  8. Prof Norman Finkelstein on fake Anti-Semitism accusations against Corbyn and the Labour Party.

  9. vot tak says:

    Even extremely timid criticism of the zionazi-gay massa is verboten. The freakshow is is run by psychopaths (look up what a psychopath is) who go aspie at the least dissection.

  10. dimples says:

    I thought this was a remarkably good article.

    Its amazing how much power the concept of the New Holocaust has. Read articles by Jews to see how any criticism of them creates the abject fear and panic of the Holocaust. But since in the modern world the Jews now control everything, how could any such New Holocaust occur? Its an impossible conundrum I would say.

    The old Holocaust required the maniacal Hitler and the Nazi state, a totalitarian regime based on racialist and nationalist imperatives, operating in the already centuries old European context of widespread antisemitism and periodic pogroms. Even then the Nazi state had to carry out its criminal extermination program in secrecy, writing nothing down and telling no-one.

    So who is going to start up the new gas chambers and get the Jews to traipse in thinking they are going to get a hot shower? Not whitey I would think. As Cook’s article shows, the Zionists have the antisemitism lid screwed down very tight. It would take an extreme upset of populism to reverse this trend, and the only populists going around in the anglosphere today, perhaps Trump and BoJo, are both Zionist puppets.

    This leads me to the conclusion that New Holocaust, if any, will be a nuke going off in Israel. This appears to be the meaning of Armageddon. We can but hope.

    • Replies: @GeeBee
  11. NPleeze says:

    The ZioNazis will always condemn those who oppose ZioNazism.

    Only a coward backs down from a ZioNazi.

  12. Please don’t damage your case with this inaccurate and exaggerated account:

    “Developing states have also struggled to prosper in a world dominated by western colonial institutions, whether NATO, the World Bank, the IMF or the UN Security Council. Doomed to failure by the very rules rigged to ensure the western powers alone prosper, developing states find their dysfunctional or authoritarian politics turned against them, used to justify continuing invasion, plunder and control of their resources by the west.” East Asia as the most obvious example contradicts that overstatement.

    Happily the BBC has rejected the criticism despite Ms Guerin being in the Israeli sights before.

    But now consider how she might better have protected herself without failing to make her point. If she were willing to weasel it she might have said “To those Palestinians and their supporters who point to the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land Yad Vashem will forever provide a lesson to young Israel Israelis that their nation can be seen through the prism of persecution and survival”. Sort of Trumpian logic which is hard to answer is it not?

  13. One of the last surviving original Zionists, the so called peace activist Uri Avnery – in between cheering for the NATO destruction of Libya and demanding an invasion of Syria – found time to admit frankly that the zionist project had always been white European racist in character; “a villa in the jungle” against “oriental barbarism”. It always amuses me that white westerners on sites like this claim to hate Jews as a separate people, because from where non white people are standing all but a minority of Jews are as indistinguishably white as those westerners themselves.

  14. sb says:

    Just as an aside , whenever there is talk of settler states ,the Anglosphere nations of North America and Oceania are always cited.
    Indeed they are invariably the only countries ever cited.
    There are quite a number of others you know

  15. The Holocaust and Anti-Semitism are weaponized against the truth not only in the United Kingdom but worldwide by the Zionist Israel Lobby.

    Orla Guerin introduced the reporting of the Holocaust commemoration at Yad Vashem saying:

    “In Yad Vashem’s Hall of Names, images of the dead. Young [Israeli] soldiers troop in to share in the binding tragedy of the Jewish people. The state of Israel is now a regional power. For decades, it has occupied Palestinian territories. But some here will always see their nation through the prism of persecution and survival.”

    The representatives of the Israel Lobby called it “offensive” and “anti-Semitic.” Not a single so-called colleague of the BBC came to her defense. Such cowardice should be a warning sign to everybody touching these touchy subjects. The “brave” journalists are all scared shitless.

    • Agree: eah
  16. GeeBee says:
    @dimples

    ‘The old Holocaust required the maniacal Hitler and the Nazi state, a totalitarian regime based on racialist and nationalist imperatives, operating in the already centuries old European context of widespread antisemitism and periodic pogroms. Even then the Nazi state had to carry out its criminal extermination program in secrecy, writing nothing down and telling no-one.’

    Oh for goodness’ sake. Where does one start with this kind of Kool-Aid addicted cuckedness?

    Perhaps recourse to a little ironic parody? Let us see:

    ‘The current Israeli holocaust of the Palestinians requires the maniacal Netanyahu and the National Socialist Israeli state, a totalitarian regime based on racialist and nationalist imperatives, operating in the already centuries old Jewish context of their widespread hatred of Europeans and their perpetual parasitism of the European-derived nations. Even then the Jewish state has had to carry out its criminal extermination program in secrecy, writing nothing down and telling no-one.’

    Exept of course that their crimes are manifestly obvious, in glaring contrast to the alleged ‘crimes’ of National Socialist Germany, for which there is no credible evidence (and certainly not because of ‘secrecy’ or the lack of documentation). These last are almost entirely fictitious, and only existed in the aftermath of WWII largely as warmed-over wartime anti-German propaganda. Gradually, however, the value of really heating up these left-overs became abundantly clear to both the illegitimate state of Israel and to Jews the world over. It’s been a combination of a get-out-of-jail-free card and a gravy train for them ever since. Comments such as yours merely serve to bolster this immoral and indeed criminal exploitation not just of Palestine but of the entire Western world.

    • Agree: Alfred, Mefobills
    • Replies: @Parfois1
  17. Anonymous[331] • Disclaimer says:

    British idiots love Jews, probably even more than Americans do. They cheered when Apartheid in South Africa fell, but they cheer when Israeli bombs kill and maim Palestinian civilians. Hardly surprising though, it was Britain who gave Palestine to the Jews.

    Their idea of “nationalism” is someone like Tommy Robinson cheering on Zionist slaughter of Muslims while saying Britain should have open borders for Indians and Bantus. I am native British but I just despair at my own people, they are the architects of their own downfall but too arrogant or maybe dumb to see it.

    • Replies: @Parfois1
  18. @refl

    The Holocaust revisionism debate is interesting but it is quite technical, when it comes to contemporary politics, it seems to be a better strategy to ridicule those who use the Holocaust to justify further aggression rather than questioning the Holocaust itself.

    Questioning the Holocaust is also verboten in the West, but questioning its relevance and how the memory of it is used for current political agendas is somewhat kosher.

    Say for example that we found documents 100% confirming the Holocaust happened like the way the Zionists say it did, would you really drop all your previous convictions? I for one think it did happen as the Jews were asking for by the way they behaved. I would also say the reality of today has been inverted, we are meant to believe Palestinians are the zenith of anti-Semitism, modern day Nazis if you will. But how come these people are facing down the US taxpayer subsidised Israeli war machine with nothing but rocks and the occasional homemade rocket that does no damage? Surely Palestinians are the ones in the position Jews were in 1930s?

    • Replies: @Saggy
    , @refl
    , @Wally
    , @Theodore
  19. Moi says:
    @Ghali

    Proud Americans and the oh-so-civilized European love polishing Israel’s knob. As the rabbi said, go figure…

  20. eah says:
    @Adrian

    Israel is an occupier …

    I see this all the time — here’s another way to look at it: to facilitate the mass emigration of displaced European Jews, Zionists politically exploited western sympathy in the immediate aftermath of WWII to bring about a de facto population fait accompli (ala ‘Manifest Destiny’), and then used ruthless, revolutionary violence to fill the nation state vacuum in the Levant existing since the end of WWI.

    In this sense, Israelis are no more ‘occupiers’ of Israel than Europeans are ‘occupiers’ of North America.

    • Replies: @Mike P
    , @Parfois1
  21. Anonymous[338] • Disclaimer says:

    Strange bunch the Irish, they never miss an opportunity to claim they were genocided by the English, yet generally support Israel and have very little sympathy for the Palestinians.

    Yes I know certain Irish republican elements in NI fly Palestinian flags, but that is not typical Irish people in the Irish Republic. Orla Guerin is a much more typical example of the Irish mentality, they are great friends of the Zionists and have turned their little country into a Eurozone tax haven for them.

    • Troll: renfro
  22. Guerin had dared, unlike any of her colleagues in the western media, to allude to the terrible price inflicted on the Palestinian people by the west’s decision to help the Zionist movement create a Jewish state shortly after the Holocaust. The Palestinians were dispossessed of their homeland as apparent compensation – at least for those Jews who became citizens of Israel – for Europe’s genocidal crimes.

    What a foolish and ignorant claim.
    It completely distorts the timeline and the sequence of cause and effect.

    Etan Bloom recorded in his 2009 dissertation at TelAviv University:

    Ruppin played a formative role in molding the identity of the poor, young and restless East European Jews who arrived sporadically in Palestine from the end of 1903 onwards. It was he who generated the energy that gave them, as a group, their socio-semiotic-cohesiveness and, within a very short time, their dominant position in pre-Israel culture so that, after the establishment of the state, it was they who, in fact, controlled the political and cultural system – without any serious opposition – until the end of the 1970s. Their leaders, David Ben- Gurion, Itzhak Ben-Zvi, Joseph Sprintzak, Berl Katznelson, Yitzhak Tabenkin, Zalman Shazar, Levi Eshkol – were all influenced by him and received his support – while their political heirs from the Third Aliyah (1918-1923), such as Eliezer Kaplan and Golda Meir, gave a determinate shape to the emerging Israeli society and simultaneously fashioned its labor movement into a political force that remained dominant until 1977. The importance of Ruppin in the formation of this group cannot be overestimated . . .

    1903 — 39 years before the first fraudulent claims of a holocaust in Europe

    1917, Balfour Declaration — 25 years before the first fraudulent claims of a holocaust in Europe

    1918 – 1923, the Third Aliyeh — 19 to 24 years before the first fraudulent claims of a holocaust in Europe

    Later, Bloom notes that

    More than twenty years after the period of the Second Aliyah, Ruppin [made special arrangements for]– the German and Austrian Jews who arrived in sunny Palestine soon after the rise of Hitler, in the Fifth Aliyah (1934-1940). . . .
    he established and directed a special department, known as the German Department (with the official title of The Central Office for the Settlement of the German Jews) in the framework of which he established RASSCO (Rural and Suburban Settlement Corporation), for the purpose of building agricultural settlements and suburbs especially for the German-Jewish newcomers

    Ruppin’s actions taken at least two years before the first fraudulent claims of a holocaust in Europe, synchronize nicely with zionist leader Louis Brandeis’s February, 1933 directive to Rabbi Stephen Wise that “all German Jews leave Germany” — nearly a decade before the first fraudulent claim of a holocaust in Europe.

    Europeans did not make these “decisions” nor take these actions; Jews did.
    Neither Europeans nor an alleged holocaust that was fraudulently claimed to have begun in Europe in 1942, were causal agents in the Jewish dispossession of Palestinians that began in 1903; and by 1919 accelerated and took roots that endured for over half a century: Jews and Jews alone were the causal agents of these actions that intentionally –“gave a determinate shape to” — and persistently dispossessed Palestinians from their land.

    • Agree: Mike P, druid55, mark green
    • Replies: @eah
  23. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:

    Don’t forget that Ebonite-Khazar-Italian mutts are Da Chosen People because of their race.

  24. Mike P says:
    @eah

    fill the nation state vacuum …

    You conveniently left out how that “vacuum” came about.

    • Replies: @eah
  25. Wild Man says:

    Look – colonialism is about ‘might makes right’. The west has prevailed because the west played ‘might makes right’ better than anyone else at the time. So, since the formation of Israel, this regime too plays ‘might makes right’. Except they are not mighty except by way of subversion of western (and other) powers. So how does Israel (and Jew Inc. in general) play this subversive game? In many many ways, but, as the article expounds, …. one of the primary ways is through continual and ongoing holocaust memorial celebration.

    Now here is the kicker to all this. What other group of human beings dishonors their own dead in this way? What other group of human beings seek to use their own dead to get something in the here and now, to the same degree? No other group comes even close to this Jewish sense that it is honorable (instead of dishonorable) to enter into quid pro quo negotiations over dead ancestors. There is this sense that Israel, and Jew Inc. in general, tend towards seeing their own dead ancestors as bargaining chips.

    Look – there is a ton of atrocity that has occurred in the world over the last 150 years. There have been ghastly images of what these atrocities look like, that have been made available from time to time. Over the longer term, mostly, these images have been downplayed, and relegated to the memory hole of ‘grievous things unspoken’, by other groups that have experienced genocidal atrocities. Other groups seek the catharsis necessary to get to this memory hole of ‘grievous things unspoken’, necessary to properly honor one’s dead, within the correct context (respect for the dead, instead of seeing these dead ancestors as a resource to be exploited). The group that is an exception to this normal pathway to said catharsis ….. ? Of course it’s the so-called chosen ones.

    Why, as a child, was I repeatedly traumatized in school, back in the early 1970’s, over this holocaust propaganda? What was the point? Back at that time, as a 12 year old school boy, it was already apparent there was something very different about this particular atrocity – and it’s not that it stands out as particularly atrocious, as far as genocidal atrocities go, ….. no, what’s different about this particular atrocity is the way it is constantly being promoted. This brand of promotion is sick (from a psychological perspective) vis-a-vis what the human norms otherwise are, outside of Jewdom, around customs for honoring one’s dead ancestors, over the longer term.

    To me, those within the Jewish community that promote the holocaust as a bargaining chip are very sick individuals. There is something psychologically wrong with them. They are not normal. No one else (other ethnicities) is like this.

    To blame that which is caused by Jewish non-normative psychology (i.e. – the pathological nature of holocaust promotion) on “white European racism” by way of western colonialism, as Jonathan Cook did in the last paragraph of the article, is laughable.

    • Replies: @GeeBee
  26. Moi says:
    @Willem

    You might find this interesting:

    Germany Must Perish, Theodore Kaufman wrote:

    This time Germany has forced a total war upon the world. As a result, she must be prepared to pay a total penalty. And there is one, and only one, such total penalty: Germany must perish forever! In fact—not in fancy! . . . The goal of world-dominion must be removed from the reach of the German and the only way to accomplish that is to remove the German from the world. . . . There remains then but one mode of ridding the world forever of Germanism—and that is to stem the source from which issue those war-lusted souls, by preventing the people of Germany from ever again reproducing their kind.2

  27. Christian-Zionism is an oxymoronic term and no wonder the Jews feel superior to White Christians thus wanting to manage Western societies and their resources, just as the colonial Whites felt towards the Black, Brown and Yellow … shall we term it “The Jew’s Burden?”

    As to wanting to redress the wrong done by the Whites to the Palestinians in helping creat the Zionist project of the State of Israel, they can always give the Jews Albania and put the Muslims there with the Palestinians that way the long desired Judeo-christian value will come to fruition.

    Lastly, to the donkeys that are Mizrahim, I wonder what a real White, blue-eyed, blonde Russian “Jew” feels about your brown asses and let alone the black asses that are the Falasha … my gut feeling is that he sees your women as harlots yet wouldn’t let you sully his daughter by your presence in his “God-given” homeland. What a pathetic lot!

    • Replies: @anarchyst
    , @Omegabooks
  28. eah says:
    @Mike P

    It’s not important to the main point: the Jews ultimately prevailed in the struggle to fill the nation state vacuum left/created in the Levant after WWI.

    As I said: it’s another way to look at it.

    • Troll: Mike P
  29. anarchyst says:
    @Really No Shit

    Tying Judaism to Christianity was a clever trick used by the jews to “cement” their claim to the “land of Israel” and of the covenant, to which I reply, “God is not a real estate agent”.

    Jews rejected the covenant when they murdered Jesus Christ. Their covenant with God was then “null and void”.

    [MORE]

    It is the flawed Schofield translation of the Bible that elevated jews to the status of Christianity’s “elder brothers”, which was then reinforced by the Catholic (flawed) “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” in the 1960s.

    I cringe when I hear well-meaning people talk about out judeo-Christian heritage.
    Nothing could be further from the truth.

    The only common thread between Christianity and judaism is the Ten Commandments, nothing more. Even the Torah is suspect as it advocates the total destruction of innocents, unlike the Christian “just war” philosophy.

    The god of judaism is a vengeful god, totally unlike the merciful and welcoming God of Christianity.

    Christianity welcomes ALL, regardless of nationality or social status, not true of judaism.

    Judaism is an insular belief system that shuns outsiders, prohibits proselytization, and promotes a form of supremacy, relegating all gentiles (non-jews) to the status of livestock-subhumans with souls, only to be used for the advancement and benefit of jews.

    In fact, slavery (of goyim) is still condoned and encouraged in the jewish Talmud.

    Jews DID murder Jesus Christ.

    Sad to say, even the present-day (post-Vatican II ecumenical council) Catholic church has bought into absolving the jews for Jesus Christ’s murder.

    As always is the case, the jews got others, the Romans to do their dirty work for them, the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

    How can Christians have the same values as the Jews; the very people who denounced and betrayed the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ, and call for his execution (by others, of course, that is the Jewish way).

    It makes absolutely no sense at all.

    Jews have no respect for Christianity, for Jesus Christ or Mary, his mother, who are both honored as Prophets in Islam, but instead, Jews spit on hearing their names and do the same while passing a Christian of any kind or a Christian Church in Israel. They have no respect for Christians or any other religion.

    It is time the Jewish lobbies and the American Government leaders as well as the evangelical Christian leaders who mislead the poor American young into joining the military and believing that they are doing something for God and Christianity by fighting Israel’s wars were named, shamed and arrested and tried for treason.

    • Agree: Omegabooks, Parfois1
  30. Saggy says: • Website
    @Wally

    Links upon request.

    Major point: No one wants to follow a bunch of links, and for sure no one wants a bunch of links to CODOH discussion threads. Thus, you, or CODOH, should make a web page that lays out the proof that the holocaust is a hoax, like, for example …

    http://www.holohoax101.org
    but better :).

    highly profitable “holocaust” relgion

    Quibble: the holohoax is not just a ‘profitable religion’, it is a dagger that the Jews have stabbed into the back of the west and they twist it at every opportunity, and it is the casus belli for the creation of Israel and the endless wars in the ME with have put civilization itself on the brink.

    • Replies: @Wally
  31. Saggy says: • Website
    @Just passing through

    The Holocaust revisionism debate is interesting but it is quite technical,

    It is not technical at all, the holohoax is preposterous on its face. For Christ’s sake, the first director of the USHMM, Elie Wiesel, was in Auschwitz for one year when the Nazis were supposedly killing 10,000 Jews per day in gas chambers disguised as shower rooms, and he wrote a book about his experience, ‘Night’, in which he does not mention gas chambers at all, and does mention taking a shower, without trepidation, on six separate occasions in the same book. Wiesel writes that the Nazis killed the Jews by tossing them alive into burning pits, one for adults, one for children. How freaking absurd can it get? It gets better – !!! – this is the book that the Jews try to make required reading in every school the country. For a long list of holohoax absurdities visit http://www.holohoax101.org

  32. GeeBee says:
    @Wild Man

    Very well said, on the whole. I would only add that this (as you rightly suggest) undoubtedly sick use of dead ancestors as bargaining chips is even more abhorrent – by several orders of magnitude in fact – when three factors are borne in mind. First, that the seventy or eighty million gentile deaths arising from the catastrophe called WWII are today more or less unlamented, except by the few surviving family members, while we gentiles are all expected to bow down before the endlessly repeated ‘six million’. Second, that it was the same people who comprise those ‘six million’ who were, more than anyone else, responsible for starting ‘the second Thirty Years War’ (as the period from 1914 to 1945 might be thought of). Third and last – and perhaps even more stomach-churning than the first two – there never even were ‘six million’ Jewish deaths. It’s a lie, and yet it perpetually occupies the centre stage of contemporary Western life, and we, the unwilling gentile audience who are compelled to look upon this grotesque and omnipresent piece of Théâtre Noir are not merely expected to applaud it, but are more or less compelled to do so.

    If this isn’t Orwell’s compulsory daily thirty minutes hate then I don’t know what it is.

  33. Altai says:

    Europe’s genocidal crimes.

    You’re doing the same thing here. ‘Europe’ didn’t commit the Holocaust. The very same organisations you condemn are trying to extend the tool of Holocaust guilt onto all European and Western nations, including the ones who ended it. For much the same onerous purposes you mention. Nazi Germany committed the Holocaust, not Poland or Ukraine and certainly not the likes of Britain, France or Russia who ended it. We’re all Germans now.

    I’d argue Orla Guerin’s Irishness is not irrelevant to how she felt comfort in taking this perspective, she doesn’t feel any guilt for anti-semitism or the Holocaust nor should she. Most people in Ireland look at Israel as a familiar story of the native population being oppressed by foreign occupiers. The scenes from Northern Ireland and Palestine in the late 80s/early 90s were uncanny in their similarities.

    • Agree: BDS Always
  34. It is past the hour, but not too late, to seriously investigate and debate the holocaust. And, if it is then proven to not have happened as is now being taught, we can then enter into the grand task of deciding how to respond. But, for the sake of truth a noble effort must be to sort this out.

  35. Wally says:
    @Saggy

    said in error:
    “Major point: No one wants to follow a bunch of links, and for sure no one wants a bunch of links to CODOH discussion threads. Thus, you, or CODOH, should make a web page that lays out the proof that the holocaust is a hoax, like, for example …

    – Yet you post …. a link.

    – In fact, links are how all references on the internet are made. BTW, Ron Unz, I’m sure, does not appreciate those who post page after page of text, hence some excerpts and links are the way, the only way to go.
    – The links I post to are seldom merely “discussions”, but are in depth Revisionist research. Please pay attention.
    – I note that you ignore the two new VIDEOS I posted in the comment you are responding to.
    You also have ignored the many other videos I have posted, some of which are overviews for novices such as yourself.
    I suggest you actually look at http://www.codoh.com, the search function works quite well. i.e.: Punch in ‘gas chambers, ‘ or ‘Treblinka’ ,’beginners’, etc., and there you go.
    – As for the CODOH Forum, https://forum.codoh.com/, the index page has numerous options to view examples of research. I suggest you actually try it. I also suggest you register and discuss, whereby you will see any question answered, discussed.
    – Then notice the various “holocaust” topic categories at: https://forum.codoh.com/viewforum.php?f=2.

    Regards.

    • Replies: @Saggy
  36. Skeptikal says:

    It seems to me that these “antisemitism” laws are similar to libel laws.
    I believe that if a “libelous” is true, then it isn’t actually libel.

    Seems to me that someone(s) have to start challenging these antisemitic laws in courts of law.
    Fast.
    Making two arguments:
    1. If the statement (such as the one Guerin made) is true, then it cannot be construed as “antisemitism.”
    2. Such a public accusation of antisemitism is in effect a libel, and should be treated as such.

    Guerin should hit back hard, legally, against those who have accused her of making an antisemitic statement.

  37. Skeptikal says:
    @Skeptikal

    I meant, “if a ‘libelous’ *statement* is true . . .”

  38. Saggy says: • Website
    @Wally

    – Yet you post …. a link.

    Yes, one link to a page that is a comprehensive debunking of the holohoax. I suggest that you and/or CODOH make a comprehensive page and that you link to that, rather than a collection of links.

    I suggest you actually look at http://www.codoh.com,

    LOL! I’ve been banned 3 times. Nothing serious, but some of the moderators are petty in the extreme. For example, I was banned for criticizing a vid by Rudolf in which he manages to trash Leuchter and Faruisson both, in the first 10 minutes !

    • Replies: @Wally
    , @Wally
  39. Herald says:
    @the grand wazoo

    It is very difficult to prove a negative, but if there had been hard undeniable evidence it would have been rammed down our throats, day in and day out. Instead of this we have been subject to an endless torrent of propaganda. On top of that, there are now in place many social and legal mechanisms, that discourage or criminalise questioning of ‘official holocaust narratives’.

  40. @Really No Shit

    Give the Jews Albania, eh? I guess you never heard of their Code of Lek (but you can read about it in Albanian author Ishmael Kadari’s novels, such as “The Wedding”)

    In the Code of Lek, if someone murders a neighbor, the family of that neighbor has an obligation to exact retribution. If not, those family members are mocked, insulted, shunned, etc. For example, in “The Wedding,” a man who had to exact retribution but didn’t was served coffee being passed under the knee of the server (that is implied coffee being pissed on), in public.

    So that, if Jews take over Albania, you can bet Albanians, Muslim or not, will take this Code of Lek to heart. And the Jews will be setting themselves up for another holocaust!

    • Replies: @JamesinNM
    , @Really No Shit
  41. lloyd says: • Website
    @Ghali

    I checked the Yad Vashem website. There is no record that Turkey attended. That appears to be an urban legend. If Turkey did, it would only be at the Ambassador level. Yad Vashem lists only the heads of States or the next in line and Governments. Same with media photographs. This boasting is clearly in fulfilling the Isaiah prophecy that all nations would bow to Jerusalem. There is no listing or photographs of countries other than Israel and post Christian nations. The exceptions among them are Poland and New Zealand. The Governor General and Prime Ministers of New Zealand did not attend and Israel refused to allow the next in protocal the House Speaker attend. The House Speaker of America Pelosi attended without Trump. The Pope did not attend. A Cardinal representative attended. New Zealand’s non attendance does not get a squeak out of New Zealand except by a few Zionists. Ireland dodged it except for a letter of support from its President. The Jews who actually survived the Holocaust took at best a back seat. The entire event is the biggest baloney.

    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  42. JamesinNM says:

    The state of Israel was planned years in advance and created to support the NWO desire to destroy every sovereign nation, take those nations’ resources, and enslave those nations’ peoples.

  43. Alfred says:
    @Anonymous

    The Irish have lost their senses. They are no longer Catholic. Their president is gay and half Indian. They have forgotten that the Israelis killed a good number of Irish soldiers who were in the UN forces (UNIFIL) that kept the peace between Israel and Lebanon. They were all killed by the Israelis. They are a bunch of losers.

    Forty-five Irish soldiers were killed while serving in the Lebanon

    Irish UN soldiers who died remembered

  44. JamesinNM says:
    @Omegabooks

    Or maybe setting themselves up for the first real holocaust.

  45. Agent76 says:

    Dec 23, 2018 I Survived the Holocaust as a baby – Now I fight to ensure this horror is NEVER forgotten

    She was born in Budapest in July 1944. She and her mother were sent to the ghetto there in November 1944 and were liberated in January 1945.

    Feb 4, 2017 The rise of Hitler 1919-1929: revision for IGCSE & GCSE History exams

    This revision podcast is relevant to both GCSE and IGCSE History students studying Nazi Germany.

    • Replies: @Adrian
  46. Z-man says:

    From watching the BBC the last few years I’ve seen that the BBC has become more of a mouthpiece of globohomo and less critical of Israeli crimes which shows that Britain is owned by the Zionist/Judaic beast. The 24/7 coverage of this 75 anniversary thing has further proved that they are even more under the Zionist thumb than America.

  47. eah says:
    @SolontoCroesus

    Note this part (which I can only assume you deliberately overlook for your own rhetorical purposes): “create a Jewish state” — the “Jewish state” was indeed ‘created’ “shortly after the Holocaust”, i.e. shortly after the end of WWII, with the acquiescence, if not outright “help”, of the West (Great Britain more than any other western nation, since they were directly responsible for the mandate) — everything that occurred before the Jews declared the existence of the state of Israel (in 1948) can and should be seen as part of the struggle by Zionists to create ‘facts on the ground’ in order to fill the nation state vacuum left/created in the Levant after WWI.

    Many people seem to resent the Jews for ultimately prevailing in that decades-long struggle, calling them ‘occupiers’ or otherwise portraying Israel as illegitimate — I guess some have this view because they don’t buy the ‘Holocaust’ narrative, which is seen as central to the West’s acquiescence — but even if you don’t believe there was an attempt to exterminate Jews, they were cruelly persecuted and uprooted (e.g. deported to camps) by the Nazis, and many of them did die.

    I don’t really care one way or the other; it’s none of my business — I do not see Israel as illegitimate any more than I see the US as illegitimate, the land once belonging to/having been ‘stolen’ from Native Americans — I don’t really see the creation of Israel as representing some kind of cosmic injustice vis-a-vis the Palestinians — there are winners and losers throughout history, and the Palestinians lost that one.

    As an American, what I do resent is the grotesque obeisance paid to Jews and Israel by US politicians, including/especially an aggressively Israel-centric Middle East policy, and active “help” in the creation of ‘Greater Israel’.

  48. refl says:
    @Just passing through

    Say for example that we found documents 100% confirming the Holocaust happened like the way the Zionists say it did, would you really drop all your previous convictions?

    You don’t understand the problem. It was my absolute conviction that the Holocaust happened, and I would have prefered, if things had stayed like that – a disaster in the past, thought about, reconsidered for all its wrongs, and now humanity could set out for a better future for all.
    And then I learned that ever more of what I had taken for granted was always just that important little bit different. Only quite late, I started to doubt that one thing. However, it is obvious.

    As a rule of thump: The more red tape around an issue, the more it stinks – that is understandable?

    But certainly, the Holocaust is a far step for everyone. You take your time. It is not a disaster of the past, that is somehow settled. It is something ongoing. And that is maybe just to much to take.

  49. @Omegabooks

    I am only suggesting a swap of peoples of that kind to avoid further bloodshed assuming it’s a total and complete exchange since Zionist-Christians would rather live with Jews than Muslims and Europeans would prefer the last vestiges of the Ottoman Rule in Europe to be done with the final departure of the Balkan Muslims back to West Asia, their natural home … it’s like fight between Armenia and Azerbaijan which doesn’t have to be because both the countries have claim to similar size territories in each other’s backyard and instead of exchanging it along with respected populations of Christians and Muslims, they choose to spill blood. It’s a bad way to continue existence!

  50. Anonymous[105] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah

    Do you think the reason behind the anti-Apartheid movement was because many people in Western countries resented the white South Africans for prevailing over the blacks who were out to attack and kill them, as has been proven post-Apartheid?

  51. @eah

    eah critiqued my rhetoric in “overlooking” the bold phrases, which emphasize the sequence of events in which the Jewish state was created:

    Note this part (which I can only assume you deliberately overlook for your own rhetorical purposes): “create a Jewish state” — the “Jewish state” was indeed ‘created’ “shortly after the Holocaust”

    A preliminary quibble: when was this holocaust you allude to? What evidence is there of its existence? When did that evidence first appear, before or after the “creation of the Jewish state”? Prominent Jewish scholars of the holocaust such at NY University’s David Engel state forthrightly that “holocaust became a central event only after the trial of Eichmann in 1967.”

    Moving on —-
    eah wrote:

    everything that occurred before the Jews declared the existence of the state of Israel (in 1948) can and should be seen as part of the struggle by Zionists to create create create CREATE ‘facts on the ground’ in order to fill the nation state vacuum left/created created created CREATED in the Levant after WWI.

    There’s that word again: create.

    Who “created” facts on the ground in Palestine between ~1903 and WWI?
    You answered your own question: “Jewish zionists created facts on the ground . . .”
    Not (non-Jewish) Europeans, not the British nor Americans nor Germans nor anybody else but JEWS created “facts on the ground” and those “facts” deliberately entailed the dispossession of Palestinians.

    As to the creation of that “vacuum in the Levant”, that is, the fragmentation of the Ottoman Empire: ever done a deep dive into how that came about? (Browse through Weizmann’s Trial and Error; it’s available online. Also read more carefully — it’s an easier read — Scott Anderson’s Lawrence in Arabia: War, Deceit, Imperial Folly and the Making of the Modern Middle East
    https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/201116/lawrence-in-arabia-by-scott-anderson/)

    Theodor Herzl and Chaim Weizmann played badminton with world leaders: first, Herzl haggled with the Ottoman sultan over a period of seven or eight years, vainly inveigling the sultan into surrendering Palestine to Jews in exchange for Jewish financial help in paying off Ottoman debt. The sultan out-foxed Herzl: he parlayed with the French and used Herzl’s offers as leverage to obtain more favorable terms from the French.
    So annoyed was Herzl that he vowed — and exacted– revenge on the Ottomans, and turned over to Weizmann the quest for nation-state support for Jewish domination over Palestine. For his part, Weizmann played off the Germans against the British as to who would gain the “favor” of Jews in helping Jews to create (there’s that word again) a “homeland for the Jews in Palestine.”

    At the risk of repeating myself, Jews and only Jews created the “facts on the ground” that deliberately brought about the dispossession of Palestinians.

    All western or European states did after the fact — in 1948, when the existence of a Jewish state of Israel was DECLARED (but not CREATED)– was to sprinkle holy water on an already consummated marriage from hell.

    • Agree: Mike P
  52. melpol says:

    Blaming Arab illiteracy on Colonialism is wrong. Jews were for centuries exploited and bad mouthed by Eurasian governments. But their literacy rate was 98%, it is because they are not dumb. Kicking in tin roofed Arab shacks by newly arrived Jews was necessary. The land was needed to accommodate millions of surviving high achievers. Arab goat herders and squatters were better fed when Jews made the desert blossom. Many Arabs have homes within Israel, none have tin roofs.

  53. Anonymous[115] • Disclaimer says:

    White nations deserve Muslim mass immigration for voting for pro-Zionist parties and cheering on Israel’s ethnic cleansing of Arabs.

    Whites almost never support the right thing, so why do they deserve peace and prosperity? They deny it to people like the Palestinians. Even Eastern Europeans like the Poles and Czechs are pro-Zionist these days. They all deserve what’s coming, they voted for it and the Zionists will provide in large numbers.

    • Replies: @anon
  54. Adrian says:
    @Skeptikal

    You wrote:

    Guerin should hit back hard, legally, against those who have accused her of making an antisemitic statement.

    So did Irving and look what happened to him.

  55. Dannyboy says:

    Arab goat herders and squatters were better fed when Jews made the desert blossom.

    You mean to say US and European taxpayer money “made the desert blossom”, right, shitbag?

  56. Saggy says: • Website
    @eah

    I don’t really see the creation of Israel as representing some kind of cosmic injustice vis-a-vis the Palestinians

    Well, it was a cosmic injustice for the Palestinians, but …. that’s not even close to the point, no one gives a damn about the Palestians. The creation of the state of Israel was a cosmic injustice for the fate of the west. Israel is bent on destroying the west, and they’re doing a damn good job of it as we watch it happen right before our eyes. And, everything hinges on the holohoax.

    If all goes well the US and Europe will be transformed into 3rd world counties, and Israel will prevail in a bloodless takeover. But that doesn’t seem likely, it seems much more likely that Israel will involve the world in a nuclear war. So, you see, that’s the problem, not the Palestinians.

    • Replies: @BDS Always
  57. Skeptikal says:
    @lloyd

    I think the ceremony was funded by some Zionist oligarch named Kantor.
    It was not an official government event, but was treated as such by the international press.

    • Replies: @lloyd
  58. BADmejr says:

    Wtf? There are some good points in this article, but Israel as a Western project to create a home for Jews? It wasn’t Christian Zionism that saw Britain endorse the Balfour declaration, or certainly not the main drive for it. It is curious that there is no mention of the fact this was a quid pro quo between Jews and Britain with Britain agreeing to support Jews building their “homeland” on top of Palestine in return for Jews using their massive influence to get the US, whose citizens did NOT want it, into WWI on the side of Britain. This wasn’t a “Western project.” It was the goyim being turned into golem once again to do the will of the Jews, who can quite arguably be labeled as collectively evil.

    • Agree: SolontoCroesus
  59. @Saggy

    People do give a damn about Palestiniansines or else you, Fran and the other Hasbara agents would not be on spreading your lies and deception to try to counter pro-Palestinian posting.
    Saggy, another Snake Oil Salesman.

  60. @melpol

    Arthur Ruppin and the Production of the Modern Hebrew Culture
    Thesis Submitted for the degree of “Doctor of Philosophy” by Etan Bloom,
    Tel Aviv University, 2008

    Since his early observations of the Eastern European Jews in 1903, Ruppin had paid special attention to the hygienic conditions of the different communities and had been disturbed by their low level (Bein 1968, I, 225).
    Ruppin related the dirt and filth to the religious sphere, especially to the Hasidic mentality of the Shtetel. In his first period in Palestine,
    he was amazed at the sub-standard hygienic practices of the Second Aliya immigrants,
    and was the first to initiate sanitary regulations;
    building the first toilets in Kinneret (until then the settlers had answered the call of nature out of doors)
    and introducing a municipal law making it obligatory for every house in Tel Aviv to have a toilet
    (Bein 1968, II, 56).

    Toilets!
    Imagine!
    Not for nothing are Jews called “Progressive.”

    PS your claim about literacy of Jewish migrants to Palestine is dubious.

  61. lloyd says: • Website
    @Skeptikal

    Every official event in Israel is a front for the machinations of Jewish oligarchs whether a Kantor or not. If it was sincere, the Holocaust surviviors would be in the front rows and the leaders of Israel would be guests. Also no Cardinal, no Presidents of European countries and Russia. No European Royals and Heir to the British throne. No Governor General of Australia. Last week, I would have omitted heir to the British Throne, no US Vice President and House Speaker. If Impeachment trial happened last week, Trump would be there too. I take heart however that the Third World did not attend. Maybe their populations would rise up, it their leaders came.

  62. melpol says:

    John was my wild and crazy roommate who drew a Swastika on his beds headboard. He claimed to dislike Israel because they abused Arabs. John also believed the Holocaust was a hoax. But one night after sharing a bottle of Scotch he blurted out that Israel’s existence annoyed him. In a drunken stupor he confessed that his Jewish boss fired him without notice. John screamed out he hates Israel because it is filled with bossy Jews. John shocked me again when he said he didn’t care if all the Arab sand dwellers died of thirst. It was then I confessed to my being a Jewish Atheist. John then threw the whiskey bottle at me, it narrowly missed my head. He then packed his belongings, on the way out he raised his arm and yelled HEIL HITLER.

    • Replies: @Mike P
    , @anon
    , @Wally
    , @Tusk
  63. @Skeptikal

    That argument goes against the leftoid Zeitgeist which now dominates the West. It is not about “truth”, it is about feelings. If a statement “hurts the feelings of a protected group”, no matter how true, then it is wrong.

    Thus saying that Blacks have a lower IQ than Whites is wrong, not because it is factually wrong, but because it hurts the self-esteem of Blacks and therefore is “racism”.

    Saying that Islam is a violent religion is wrong, not because it is historically wrong, but because it hurts the feelings of Muslims and therefore is “Islamophobia”.

    Saying that Jews control finance, media and politics, is wrong, not because it cannot be demonstrated, but because it hurts the feelings of Jews and therefore is an “anti-Semitic conspiracy theory”.

    Similarly with any criticism of Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians. Jews cannot oppress other people, not because it is factually wrong, but because it refutes the notion of Jews as “eternal victims” and therefore is “anti-Semitism”.

    As the saying goes : “truth is no defense”.

  64. Parfois1 says:
    @Adrian

    Good stuff Adrian. Thanks.

  65. MLK says:

    I long ago gave up any hope that Cook and those of his mindset would figure out they’re not helping the Palestinians. Cook bemoans that the Palestinians have ended up taking one for the Western leftist team, yet he writes (another) entire article reinforcing that narrative.

    Will those who purport to care about the Palestinians ever figure out applying the label ‘Nazi’ to Jews/Israel was the very definition of self-defeating?

    Not just for the Palestinian cause, but also for free speech in Europe. Speech restrictions relating to the Holocaust were wholly in the German national interest after WWII, for reasons I shouldn’t need to explain. Yet, in an increasingly unified Europe, the German exception Because WWII heads ever further toward the rule.

  66. Parfois1 says:
    @GeeBee

    I think you are being unfair to Dimples. What he states (regarding Nazi Germany) is the “received wisdom”, not his personal interpretation of those events. In my view, he alludes to the “received wisdom” as the foundational core to ground and legitimate Jewish “suffering”.

  67. Wally says:
    @Saggy

    Uh oh.
    – I’ve checked with CODOH, you’re lying, you have not been banned.
    In fact, you were not ever registered. Ah.

    – Oh yeah, that’s right. You’re the same silly kid who in a comment here claimed that the Muslims were in the Christian Holy Land before Christians. LOL

    recommended dates:

    – Christianity founded 1st AD
    – Islam founded ca. 622 AD

  68. Wally says:
    @Just passing through

    said:
    “Say for example that we found documents 100% confirming the Holocaust happened like the way the Zionists say it did, would you really drop all your previous convictions?”

    Yes, and those like you would have a more solid foundation to at least try to start with.

    – BUT … what documents?

    – Of course, you can’t have ‘6M murdered Jews & 5M others’ without human remains coming out of the woodwork.

    – And the fact is that it is Jews and their “Holocau$t Industry” who claim that such remain exist in known, marked locations.

    Problem: No such remains exist.

  69. Parfois1 says:
    @Anonymous

    I am native British but I just despair at my own people

    And who is your own people? There is a wide choice, starting with English, Scots, Welsh, plus the numerous ex-colonials…

    “Britain” and “British” – in that sense – is a political construct, not a nation. You should know that; you might even be familiar with the notion of “home-countries”.

    • Replies: @Anon
  70. Mike P says:
    @melpol

    And this proves exactly what, except that you like to shack up with drunkards?

  71. “The first justification says that the Zionist movement was entitled to rid Palestine of the overwhelming majority of its Palestinian natives because God promised Jews the land of Palestine thousands of years ago. This argument tells Palestinians: Your family may have lived for centuries or even millennia in Nazareth, Nablus, Bethlehem, Beersaba, Jerusalem, Jaffa, Hebron, Haifa but that counts for nought because God told Abraham the land belonged to the Jews.”

    In today’s world, when people learn of a mother or father who hear voices telling them to kill their children, or to violently take away the property of another, we rightfully lock such people up, brand them schizophrenics, and insure they are kept in a condition where they can do no harm to themselves or others. They are, for want of a better, more accurate term, “insane”. And hopefully, these people will get the help they need, will be able to overcome the condition(s) that caused their hallucinations, and will lead productive and happy lives for the remainder of their days.

    However, the one thing that should never happen is for these utterly delusional people to be placed in a position of religious leadership and power, for that will usually end very, very badly for many, if not all concerned, as for example the People’s Temple with infamous Jim Jones at the helm, or the Heaven’s Gate cult where their leader, Marshall Applewhite, had himself and a few of his most devoted followers first surgically castrate themselves months in advance, then successfully exhort the entire HG community to commit suicide en masse as comet Hale-Bopp made its closest approach. There have been many others just in the 20th century alone (see here for a small sampling: https://www.history.com/news/5-20th-century-cult-leaders)

    Obviously, schizophrenia or other mental psychopathy, mixed with charisma, charm and frighteningly strong belief in one’s own delusions can and will lead the weak-minded among us to follow such individuals, many times into literal oblivion of the most painful and bloody variety. Or to my mind much worse, lead to the widespread destruction of innocents at the hands of such zealots. Again, the historical record is replete with examples, and many if not most invoke divine selection, guidance and counseling in justifying their murderous, even genocidal, rampages.

    Such a basis for a religion can and will lead to serial psychopaths inflicting murderous horrors on helpless others, and the religion of Judaism is not only no exception, but seemingly a leader in such nefarious activities (e.g., Moses and the Midianites, to give but one particularly egregious example among many. See Numbers 31 1-18.)

    Thus, when I hear of the ‘biblical’ justification for the state of Israel, I cannot help but think that the insanity of their founders has sadly but clearly ‘trickled down’ to those who claim a divine right to murder, loot and displace the innocent Palestinians, Christians, Druze, etc. who are being systematically destroyed before our very eyes in the “Holy Land” so dear to so many………

  72. Parfois1 says:
    @eah

    … and then used ruthless, revolutionary violence to fill the nation state vacuum in the Levant existing since the end of WWI.

    Very dissimilar. International law has evolved significantly since the Papal bulls of 1453 and following. Bear in mind that the UN was founded in 1945 (no more conquests, end of colonies, etc.) while the state of Israel is not a state de jure. What passes off as the state of Israel was original a British set up but it was Truman who gave the official imprimatur. Even Resolution 181 was vague and required the effective partition into autonomous regions. In fact, Resolution 181 was contrary to the UN Charter itself.

  73. anon[508] • Disclaimer says:
    @melpol

    triggered

    you failed to provide a safe space for him, melpol.

    you need diversity training.

  74. Compfuzed says:

    Waiting for the grand opening of a Palestinian Holocaust Museum. What would make this museum interesting? How about live streaming acts of aggression and maintaining realtime statistics? The Honored Names of The Dead would be updated in real time with a map of who, where, cause, and perhaps even pictures of the perpetrators. Stories and accounts would be posted and updated in real time. Actual artifacts could be delivered daily, such as: a bullet ridden baby clothes, shattered window frames, shrapnel removed from the wounded, etc. All events captured, stored, cataloged, archived, and then honorably displayed in order to expose the Palestinian Holocaust happening RIGHT NOW.
    Not eighty years ago. Not two hundred years ago. RIGHT. NOW.

    • Agree: Nonny Mouse
  75. anon[139] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    exactly! white ordinary people too, helped readily, gladly, willingly to set the table for all the current crap in the world, and now they are whinning because it has come back hunt them out.

    ordinary white people bought into the white elitist racial superiority crap, never saw themselves victims too. they thought they were indeed superior and elite themslves… but not so at all. it was just a trick to separate ordinary whites from other victims like themselves, so it would be hard to impossible for ordinary white people to see through the game, and for all of the exploited to get together against the real exploiters

    but now the situation has matured and the time has come for ordinary white people to be made aware of reality..that they are ordinary victims too, no better than the negroes they used to spit on routinely. and as the wood is being delivered to ordinary whites, they have been given a palliative they can wallow in, for all their loss and sorrow..what do they call it again – white etnocentrism? they can go into their whiteness and wallow im there, wasting their lives away in abstract nonsense.

    but white people will go crazy in there, wallowing in their insane whiteness, and emerge in a racist emotional extremity that the elites can then turn into a genocide against people of color.

    but this time people of color can fight and will fight back so there would be a massive 3-sided, depopulating bloodbath…white people and people of color fighting and killing each other everwhere… with the police and military re-establishing ‘public order’ by shooting indescriminately.

    the answer for white pople is truth not ethnocentrism. ethnocentrism is death for ordinary white people. truth is to know and accept who they actually are..working class people now face to face with the global working class reality, at this current sgate of capitalist evolution..which means redundancy in the reality of technological advance that is producing general elimination of jobs by the millions.. general reduction to poverty and uselessness of masses and masses of people…

    unless ordinary white people work through their reality see such truth, join up the working class and rise-up in collective reform of society, in ways that ensure that they and all others have a place at the table of all humanity… setting a new table that brings peace, democray and human security..they have no chance at all

    thats the truth for ordinary white people. racial superiority is a divisive crock of crap, has no base in reality, no efficacy or functionality save to support, facilitate minority exploitative power. that is the truth that will save all ordinary people from depopulation and new slavery, which would be far, far worse than old slavery

  76. Adrian says:
    @Agent76

    In the week before Auschwitz day the Dutch commemorated the 102,000 Dutch Jews who were taken away during the war and never returned by having their names read out by 800 speakers. The reading went on night and day and took about 120 hours. It all took place in the transit camp on Dutch soil: Westerbork.

    What does a genuine Auschwitz survivor think about such continuous commemoration? The late Dr.Hajo Meyer survived Auschwitz as an adult. After the war he was a director of the physics laboratory of the Philips factories. This is a translated part of what he said during a very long interview with the journalist Stan van Houcke:

    There is “the strong Jewish tradition of commemorating all Jewish suffering over and over again. Jews have always wallowed in their suffering. The orthodox still remember that in 1648 between 16,000 and 100,000 Jews (estimates vary) were murdered by Cossacks under their leader Chmielnicky. The constant reminder of the horrors that have been sustained naturally has far-reaching psychological consequences.

    If you survive Auschwitz, then you know that it can be overcome and that takes away part of the horror. I have seen it, I could get away, while the second generation did not see it, it does not belong to their perception. Their position is much more complex.

    The inherited fears could become so abnormally large because they were not experienced by these children themselves.

    Due to all these factors, the paranoia among the Jews is huge, and there are few people who call themselves Jewish who are not afraid. The fact is that children cannot arm themselves against the suffering of their parents, they are defenseless.

    It is … understandable that the trauma of the second and third generation is often at least as strong as that of the first. After all, the victims of the first generation have had more or less normal parents during the years that are most important for character formation and psychological stability. Subsequent generations missed such parents throughout their lives. All these emotionally damaged individuals together have so much influence that the Jewish people seem to have become collectively paranoid.

    It goes without saying that someone who is controlled by feelings of fear and suspicion is not very happy. Those who feel threatened, hunted and discriminated against will experience little joy in life. That is bad enough for such a person personally and for his environment. But it is much worse if such an unfortunate person, let alone such an unhappy people, has military power. In that case an alarm must be raised. The case of Israel is particularly worrying. As I have just argued, many Israelis must be described as paranoid while living in a country with a formidable military force. To make matters worse, most Jews in the Diaspora, who suffer from the same obsession, support Israeli politics.

    The extreme consequence of a paranoid attitude to life combined with the dehumanizing of the other is inevitably the destruction of the other. History teaches us that.

    To be able to act ethically, you must see your fellow man as your fellow man. And that is impossible if someone is paranoid, if their actions are determined by extreme suspicion and extreme distrust. Someone who is paranoid cannot act on fellow human ethics, because he does not see fellow human beings, he sees only the enemy in another human being, A paranoid person is permanently at war with its environment, just like Israel, which is controlled by paranoid feelings. That fear, that distrust, that suspicion is also cultivated and cherished by the Zionists to maintain support for expansionism.
    …
As long as the paranoia is not put into perspective, and all Jewish suffering is referred to time and again, the suffocating and paralyzing fear will continue to grow. Perhaps we should abolish the commandment to commemorate, for our own good (emphasis added A.)

    A paranoid person can only live in a paranoid world surrounded by enemies, and if there are none, they must be created, otherwise one can simply not live. That is a horrible psychological law.

    And that goes on until it goes completely wrong. Either one commits suicide or one kills others. The ultimate “solution” for a paranoid society like Israel is the use of the atom bomb to radically eliminate the so-called threat once and for all. And when that happens, the Jews on thiis earth better hide.”

    • Replies: @Wally
  77. Parfois1 says:
    @Skeptikal

    1. If the statement (such as the one Guerin made) is true, then it cannot be construed as “antisemitism.”

    But Law doesn’t work like that. Our legal system is based on the principle of “positive law” – read, what the state declares as being the law. Nothing to do with concepts of justice, right and wrong, logic or truth. Some legal systems (civil law countries) still pay lip service (and sometimes use) the moral precepts of Natural Law to strike down laws enacted by the state. So, an English or US court would apply the definition of “anti-semitism” given by the statute while in a Natural Law jurisdiction the court could look behind the definition and consider whether the law was consistent with concepts of justice encompassed by natural law.

    2. Such a public accusation of antisemitism is in effect a libel, and should be treated as such.

    “Anti-semitism” or any other “ism” are dealt with in all modern civil codes as defamation laws, that is, a wrong (tort) committed against a legal person if it causes harm, and that is hard to prove. But that is not good enough for the Tribe, they want iron-fisted laws. The purpose of criminalizing anti-semitism is to make it a public offence (that is, against the commonwealth) and much easier to prove if the act comes within the purview of the definition.

    As a comparison, the Soviet criminal code contained a law under which a person could be accused of fomenting religious or ethnic hatred but only if the intention was to undermine social order or the state. One could say that the capitalist liberal governments are more “Judeo-Bolshevik” than the Bolsheviks ever were!

    It belongs to the imagination only to come to the idea that one day a country would enact a law to make it an offence if somebody accuses another of being an anti-semitic. This just shows the immense scope and reach of Jewish power .

  78. Wally says:
    @melpol

    LOL

    – No one believes that fantasized nonsense. I suggest that you put a cork in it & go to AA or something. Get help

    – After all, you believe in impossible things like the thoroughly debunked “holocaust” narrative.

  79. Wally says:
    @Adrian

    said:
    “If you survive Auschwitz, then you know that it can be overcome and that takes away part of the horror.”

    Simple request:
    – Name just three so called “Auschwitz survivors”.
    – Tell us in their own words what claims they made / make, and when & where they made those claims,
    – Tell us what courts of law they testified in.
    – Please give us their verbatim court testimony and the full text of the cross examination records.

    recommended:
    The Usual Enemies of Free Speech are desperate / see ‘Banned by Amazon and Purged by the Neocons’, by Ron Unz:: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12390

  80. Anon[744] • Disclaimer says:

    It is wholly Semitic of the author to blame Jewish crimes on European racists.

    Jews prefer this same strategy.

    The ritual of the scapegoat sacrifice is even the most important Jewish religious ritual on their most important religious holiday of Yom Kippur.

    The ritual is an instruction in strategy against non-Jews, the same as virtually all of their religious observances.

    Europeans are everyone’s convenient punching bag, because its encouraged to defer to us as such and its discouraged to attack anyone else for whatever they do: whether the the responsible parties are Jews or non-Whites.

    The tactic is both that of the coward and the liar (the Jew).

    It allows for 1,000 word blame essays without being held accountable by anyone with any power.

  81. Anon[171] • Disclaimer says:
    @melpol

    Jews were for centuries exploited and bad mouthed by Eurasian governments.

    Your lies are retard tier.

    Kicking in tin roofed Arab shacks by newly arrived Jews was necessary. The land was needed to accommodate millions of surviving high achievers.

    Your moral logic is also retard tier. If what you are stating is true, then the Jews were justly treated by the Germans.

    Which is it? Was abusing the Jews “necessary” or are the Jews victims who were not justified in victimizing the Palestinians?

    Or is it that the Jews tell themselves that they can be held to a differing moral standard than everyone else, and are not entitled to be dispossessed and imprisoned while other people are? (And therefore the rest of the world is morally justified in destroying the Jewish supremacists).

    • Replies: @melpol
  82. Tusk says:
    @melpol

    And then everyone clapped.

  83. Anon[132] • Disclaimer says:
    @the grand wazoo

    It is past the hour, but not too late, to seriously investigate and debate the holocaust.

    There is no “debate”. You don’t “debate” that you have four arms, do you? You don’t debate obvious falsehoods. You state the plain truth as fact and move on. You don’t debate its veracity.

    There is no debate here. The Holocaust is a very obvious lie, point simple. All of the so-called debate that is necessary has been documented many times over. There is literally zero reason for or benefit to rehashing it again. The second you start debating that fact, you leave it open to people assailing hard reality using every manner of lie. That’s the only thing that you gain in any debate.

    Jews would like nothing more than for you to keep wanting to “debate” the Holocaust: the fictional event that they have been caught lying about, on a grand scale, multiple times.

    As long as you keep debating them, they will keep debating you. Its an illusion, and a poor one at that, to believe that there would ever be an end to any so called debate.

    What the Jews fear is an unwillingness to debate anything that they want to assert or attack: the Holocaust, social policies, etc.

    They fear that you take the next step from debate: which is unwavering assertion of fact and then the third step of action.

    Give them what they fear, not what they want.

    That’s your best “debate” outcome.

  84. Anon[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Parfois1

    “Britain” and “British” – in that sense – is a political construct, not a nation. You should know that; you might even be familiar with the notion of “home-countries”

    .

    That’s demonstrably false. Though its not my perogative to educate you in ancient history.

    The British are most definitely an ancient people that can be traced well outside of Britain. The beginning, but not the end, of that trail can be found by a child through the simplest of Wikipedia searches.

    The other tribes are variously British or long associates of, and many have long bred in. Which is an easy enough task given their genetic and cultural similarity. The most important tribes were long associated with Britain outside of the UK. Even the Saxons are closely related (most of us are) while at the same time arguably being the most alien group (to the British) next to the Picts. Though, again, this all references relative degree of separation. White Britain, as a whole, is very much a functional, historical, and racial nation.

  85. Tony Hall says:

    The telling moment was the Six Day War in 1967. At the very height of the decolonization movement, when some Indigenous peoples were flexing their muscle to liberate themselves from imperialism, Israel was involved in an imperial war to crush Indigenous peoples, a process that continues yet. The vast majority of countries in the UN General Assembly emerged from former colonies that were ruled until fairly recently by European empires. Israel, however, is a new country that emerged from Zionist alliances with the imperial powers starting with Britain, then National Socialist Germany in the Transfer Agreement, and then the United States.

    Much of the literature of the colonial comparison has drawn parallels between Apartheid South Africa and Israel especially in the 1970s when the two stigmatized powers formed a very close alliance. Israel, though, took it much farther than Apartheid South Africa. Israel never had anything like a “separate but equal” principle, as negatively as many rightfully judge this approach. I don’t recall anything like the bombing of Gaza, the regular “cutting of the grass, being done by the White minority regime to the Bantustans.

    Increasingly the more powerful comparison is with the US history of removing the Aboriginal population to make way for the replacement population that presently dominates. In this way the Trail of Tears extends from the removal of the Cherokee and other First Nations in the 1830s by US President Andrew Jackson all the way to the treatment of the Indigenous peoples of Palestine as determined by the likes of Ze’ev Jabotinsky, Menachem Begin, Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu etc. In a seminal essay, Norman Finkelstein really makes a significant contribution to this subject. See

    https://www.islam-radio.net/historia/zionism/NatAmFTP.html

    The successful effort to turf Palestinian-American scholar, Dr. Steven Salaita, from his tenured appointment in the American Indian Studies Department of University of Illinois really demonstrates the desire of the Israel Lobby put a veil over the Palestinian-Native American comparisons. See my essay on the topic I recently delivered in Beirut

    https://ahtribune.com/world/americas/academic-freedom/3517-israel-lobby-university-governanc-steven-salaita.html

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  86. @the grand wazoo

    Nobility is not a characteristic of the Jewish people

  87. renfro says:
    @melpol

    Arab goat herders and squatters were better fed when Jews made the desert blossom. Many Arabs have homes within Israel, none have tin roofs.

    LOL…liar ….Palestine was blooming long before the Jews arrived. The US had to send people over to teach the Jews how to farm to feed themselves. But the Jews opted to steal the Palestines already established farms instead.


    ”Palestine was exceedingly fertile land , full of springs and well peopled except for Jerusalem which was bare. Terraced with fruit tress of oranges, lemons and olives and fields of wheat, with vineyards whose grapes were much in demand by Romans, No land could be less dependent on foreign imports for it bore within it everything necessary for the subsistence and comfort of an agricultural people”

    The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Volume 1
    By Edward Gibbon

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  88. Wally says:
    @Saggy

    Like I said, pay attention.
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  89. melpol says:
    @Anon

    Jews were dispossessed victims because they were weak. Arabs were dispossessed victims by stronger Jews. Might was right in both cases. The need for morality must be discussed in a college philosophy class. Today’s Jews are no longer weak. They are supported by Western governments because they are useful.

  90. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:

    Poop diamonds and masturbation machines are high comedy in the Bugs Bunny tradition.

  91. @melpol

    And I bet you Jews weren’t envious that Colonel Muamar Gaddafi was going to show you up by greening the Sahara desert, feeding all of Africa, and giving jobs to all those Africans instead of having them invade Europe.

  92. melpol says:
    @renfro

    Israel is no longer an agricultural nation. They have built industrial centers all over the landscape. Oranges and grapes can be grown elsewhere as Jews eat beef and pork products. Greater Israel is becoming the worlds #1 innovator of unique technology. Their spyware and medical tools are wanted and are the best.

  93. Che Guava says:

    So, the Guardian may purge Cook, but Cook can never purge his inner Guardianista.

    I did not bother reading to the end, but read most.

    Would guess that hIs strange and convoluted narrative lost many who may otherwIse sympathise.

    I won’t list the points. They are too obvious and i am tired.

  94. anon[291] • Disclaimer says:

    AntiSemite!! Anti-Semite!!

    btw…

    and ungrateful Iraqis are threatened with being made to pay for the soldiers that invaded their country

    what if Iraq sent the U.S. a bill for every Iraqi citizen killed? 100,000 dead?

    what is one human life worth, a million dollars?

    now the aggressors will have to think twice before invading and bombing anyone else

  95. Theodore says:
    @Just passing through

    Say for example that we found documents 100% confirming the Holocaust happened like the way the Zionists say it did, would you really drop all your previous convictions?

    Sounds very suspicious, given that we already have loads of documents on the “Final Solution” policy, which was real, showing the “Holocaust” narrative to be total nonsense.

    Indeed, I would be very skeptical of someone who claims to have “found” WWII-era documents in 2020, somehow refuting the contents of documents we have had the entire time.
    Now, the physical evidence? That’s an entirely different ball game. You can’t fake a mass grave full of hundreds of thousands. A document? Sure, just get a typewriter and some paper

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