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I have watched Oliver Stone’s documentary on the assassination of JFK, both the short version, JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass, and the long version in four episodes, JFK: Destiny Betrayed. I recommend the latter, which I will discuss here. Although the technical parts (the bullets, the autopsy, Oswald’s CIA handlers) are interesting and partly new, I will focus exclusively on the theory regarding the main culprits and their motive. And I will discuss the larger work of James DiEugenio, who wrote the film—and probably interviewed the different contributors, although Stone appears to be doing it.

James DiEugenio has been investigating the Kennedy presidency and the Kennedy assassination from the time of the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB), which was largely a consequence of Oliver Stone’s Hollywood film JFK (1991). His first book was Destiny Betrayed: JFK, Cuba, and the Garrison Case (1992, newly edited in 2012). In 1993, he founded Citizens for Truth about the Kennedy Assassination (CTKA), and co-edited Probe Magazine, now replaced by the website KennedysandKing.com.

In 1997, DiEugenio published a powerful two-part book-length article, “the Posthumous Assassination of JFK” (1997). It is still essential reading for anyone interested in the controversies surrounding Kennedy’s presidency and assassination, or puzzled by the unending stream of bizarre Kennedy lore. This is the text you want to send to anyone telling you about the Kennedys’ mafia dealings and unrestrained sex life, their murder of Marilyn Monroe, or Bobby’s irresponsible assassination plots against Castro that backfired on his brother. These stories are so widespread, repeated in well-published and well-reviewed books, that millions of people assume them to be documented. Writing on the occasion of the release of Seymour Hersh’s The Dark Side of Camelot, DiEugenio exposed their fraudulent nature and their true motivation: the obsession to “smother any legacy that might linger,” for “assassination is futile if a man’s ideas live on through others.” This flow of defamation had started in the 70s, as a counter-fire to the Church Committee and the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA), and intensified in the 1990s after the ARRB. It never dried up.

Character assassination is only one part of the propaganda unleashed against the Kennedy legacy. Another part has consisted in distorting the historical record of Kennedy’s presidency, and particularly the radical but short-lived innovations of his foreign policy. DiEugenio writes in “Dodd and Dulles vs. Kennedy in Africa” (1999, modified 2016):

a clear strategy of those who wish to smother any search for the truth about President Kennedy’s assassination is to distort and deny his achievements in office. Hersh and his ilk have toiled to distort who Kennedy really was, where he was going, what the world would have been like if he had lived, and who and what he represented.[1]DiEugenio, “Dodd and Dulles vs. Kennedy in Africa,” 15 February 1999, last modified 16 October 2016, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/dodd-and-dulles-vs-kennedy-in-africa

DiEugenio has provided insightful answers to these questions. A graduate in Contemporary American History, he is probably the best Kennedy historian among Warren Commission critics, and his work has opened the way for other revisionist historians like Monika Wiesak, author of the recent and excellent America’s Last President: What the World Lost When It Lost John F. Kennedy (read DiEugenio’s review here). According to DiEugenio, there has been, in addition to the cover-up about Kennedy’s death, a “cover-up about Kennedy’s foreign policy,”[2]“DiEugenio at the VMI seminar,” 16 September 2017, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/jim-dieugenio-at-the-vmi-seminar so that even critics of the Warren Commission fairytale have largely failed to grasp the full extent of Kennedy’s changes from the foreign policy of his predecessors—dominated by the Dulles brothers; “by only chasing Vietnam and Cuba, to the neglect of everything else, we have missed the bigger picture.”[3]DiEugenio, “Introduction to JFK’s Foreign Policy: A Motive for Murder,” 22 December 2014, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/introduction-to-jfk-s-foreign-policy-a-motive-for-murder The bigger picture drawn by DiEugenio includes the Congo, Indonesia, Laos and the Middle East. DiEugenio’s most essential articles on these topics are:

The three scholars who most contributed to DiEugenio’s understanding of the uniqueness of Kennedy’s foreign policy, and who are interviewed in the film JFK: Destiny Betrayed, are:

Kennedy’s Strategy of Peace

Although he praises James Douglass’s JFK and the Unspeakable (2008), DiEugenio rejects his mythical portrayal of JFK as a Cold Warrior converted to peacemaking during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.[4]“DiEugenio at the VMI seminar, 16 September 2017, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/jim-dieugenio-at-the-vmi-seminar Despite the contrary impression he made during his televised debates with Nixon in 1960, Kennedy was never a Cold Warrior. The collection of statements published under the title The Strategy of Peace for his presidential campaign proves it.

DiEugenio traces Kennedy’s general ideas on foreign policy back to 1951, when Kennedy toured the Middle East and Asia. His meeting in Saigon with Edmund Gullion, whom he later brought into his cabinet, had convinced him that sending American troops to Indochina was a grave mistake.[5]James Norwood, “Edmund Gullion, JFK, and the Shaping of a Foreign Policy in Vietnam,” 8 May 2018, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/edmund-gullion-jfk-and-the-shaping-of-a-foreign-policy-in-vietnam He would never change his mind on that issue.[6]James Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters, Touchstone, 2008, pp. 107, 102.

By 1957, Kennedy was formulating a radical—by U.S. standard—foreign policy for the Arab world, which he outlined in a speech on the Senate floor denouncing French colonial occupation of Algeria:

In these days, we can help fulfill a great and promising opportunity to show the world that a new nation, with an Arab heritage, can establish itself in the Western tradition and successfully withstand both the pull toward Arab feudalism and fanaticism and the pull toward communist authoritarianism.[7]Quoted in “DiEugenio at the VMI seminar,” 16 September 2017, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/jim-dieugenio-at-the-vmi-seminar

Unlike his predecessors Truman and Eisenhower, and in defiance of the doctrine that prevailed in the CIA, the Pentagon and the State Department, Kennedy accepted and welcomed a multipolar world, the only way, in his view, to overcome the dangerous bi-polarization of the Cold War. Had he succeeded, he would have transformed the U.S. into something totally different from what it was starting to become since WWII, and has fully become since he died: an imperial bully feared but hated throughout the world. In “Deconstructing JFK: A Coup d’État over Foreign Policy?” DiEugenio makes the point that:

[Kennedy’s] speeches, correspondence and high-level meetings with emerging Third World leaders reveal his growing antipathy for colonialism, rejection of imperialism, toleration for the non-aligned movement—contrasting markedly with his predecessor—and promotion of nationalistic leaders, albeit ones that were considered to be “responsible” in their moderation.[8]DiEugenio, “Deconstructing JFK: A Coup d’État over Foreign Policy?” January 14, 2021, covertactionmagazine.com/2021/01/14/deconstructing-jfk-a-coup-detat-over-foreign-policy/

The first foreign policy reversal that Kennedy made once in office was on the Congo. Patrice Lumumba, Congo’s first democratically elected leader, was killed three days before Kennedy’s inauguration, victim of a coup supported by the CIA. Jacques Lowe’s shot of JFK getting the news of Lumumba’s death on February 13th is, to DiEugenio, the picture that best symbolizes Kennedy’s personal commitment to support the national independence of Third world countries, and the ordeal of his struggle against the CIA’s machinery of assassination and regime change. After U.N. Secretary-General Dag Hammarksjold was killed (likely murdered) in a plane crash in September 1961, Kennedy carried on his campaign for a free and independent Congo. Lyndon Johnson destroyed this first attempt at a democracy in post-colonial Africa, and backed Josef Mobutu, who turned into a corrupted dictator and allowed his country to be utilized by outside imperial interests.

Kennedy rejected the “with us or against us” mentality of the foreign policy establishment, and this was also demonstrated by his support for Indonesia’s nationalist leader Sukarno, who co-founded the Non-Aligned Movement. In 1958, Eisenhower had authorized the CIA’s attempt at overthrowing Sukarno, but when Kennedy assumed office, he reversed that policy, and helped Sukarno stabilize his country. Less than a year after Kennedy’s death, the CIA was planning again covert action against Sukarno, which led to the killing of at least 500,000 people suspected of communist sympathy. Sukarno was placed under house arrest and CIA-backed Suharto ruled for three decades, turning his people into low-wage workers for foreign companies.[9]DiEugenio, “Deconstructing JFK: A Coup d’État over Foreign Policy?” January 14, 2021, covertactionmagazine.com/2021/01/14/deconstructing-jfk-a-coup-detat-over-foreign-policy/

And then, of course, there is Cuba and Vietnam. The story of Kennedy’s resistance to the Pentagon and the CIA’s push for military confrontation and escalation in these countries has been told many times—most eloquently by James Douglass—, so that I do not need to tell it again. Authors of the dominant school of JFK assassination research—and that includes those interviewed in Stone’s documentary—assume that Cuba and Vietnam are, in that order, the most important reasons why Kennedy was killed. DiEugenio agrees, but brings a larger spectrum of motives.

The Middle East

DiEugenio writes in “Nasser, Kennedy, the Middle East, and Israel”:

For decades, the critical community overlooked areas of Kennedy’s foreign policy outside of Vietnam and Cuba. KennedysandKing has attempted to correct that oversight in recent years. We have tried to educate our readers on issues like Kennedy’s policies in Congo, Indonesia, Dominican Republic, and Laos. We have also tried to show how, after his murder, those policies—as well as his policy toward Vietnam and his attempts at detente with Moscow and Havana—were also altered.

But there is still another area of the world about which Kennedy’s reformist foreign policy is overlooked. That area is the Middle East. This is odd since many commentators justifiably perceive that the Middle East is one of the most important areas on the globe.[10]DiEugenio, “Nasser, Kennedy, the Middle East, and Israel,” 22 October 2020, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/nasser-kennedy-the-middle-east-and-israel

He writes in his “Introduction to JFK’s Foreign Policy: A Motive for Murder”:

Why is the JFK case relevant today? Well, because the mess in the Middle East now dominates both our foreign policy and the headlines, much as the Cold War did several decades ago. And the roots of the current situation lie in Kennedy’s death, whereupon President Johnson began the long process which reversed his predecessor’s policy there.[11]DiEugenio, “Introduction to JFK’s Foreign Policy: A Motive for Murder,” 22 December 2014, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/introduction-to-jfk-s-foreign-policy-a-motive-for-murder

In other words, the Middle East is the region of the world where Kennedy’s foreign policy and Johnson’s reversal of that foreign policy have had the most dramatic and most lasting consequences. What was at stake was America’s involvement in the conflict between Israel and the Arab world, and that meant, essentially, between Ben-Gurion and Nasser.

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So DiEugenio acknowledges that: 1. LBJ completely reversed JFK’s foreign policy, and 2. the most consequential reversal was in the Middle East, for the longtime benefit of Israel and to the detriment of Egypt. Yet he points, not to Johnson or Ben-Gurion, but to Allen Dulles as the most likely culprit for the Dallas coup. Does he document any evidence that Allen Dulles was interested in switching alliance from Egypt to Israel? None whatsoever. It is true that the Eastern Establishment generally favored Saudi Arabia over Egypt, but it is not the case that they wanted a closer relationship with Israel. So what is unique about Johnson’s pro-Israel policy is that it was not a return to a pre-Kennedy policy, but something new altogether. It was a radical break from all previous administrations. Recall Eisenhower’s resolute reaction to Israel’s invasion of the Sinai in 1956, and contrast it with what happened ten years later, when Johnson greenlighted Israel’s attack on Egypt and expansion, and covered up Israel’s false-flag attack on the USS Liberty designed to draw the U.S. into the war.

Cuba and Vietnam

Allen Dulles’s major interest in foreign policy in the 1960s was over Cuba. Assassinating Castro and/or invading Cuba to restore an American colonial regime was his priority. Like the majority of JFK investigators, DiEugenio considers that Kennedy had so angered the CIA, and Dulles in particular, when he didn’t go along with their plan to invade Cuba—not once but twice, first with the Bay of Pigs landing in 1961, and secondly during the Cuban Missiles Crisis in 1962—that Dulles’s gang decided to assassinate him. But guess what: LBJ did not invade Cuba either. He didn’t give the CIA and Pentagon hawks the retaliatory invasion of Cuba that their plan was supposed to force upon him. He didn’t even try.

This is a major weakness of that semi-mainstream theory to which DiEugenio subscribes, and which he contributed to write. That weakness is partly compensated by the secondary focus on Vietnam. It is true that, in Vietnam, Johnson gave the National Security state what they wanted, and more. As author Peter Dale Scott wrote, Johnson “had been, since 1961, the ally of the Joint Chiefs (and in particular Air Force General Curtis LeMay) in their unrelenting efforts, against Kennedy’s repeated refusals, to introduce U.S. combat troops into Asia.”[12]Peter Dale Scott, Deep Politics and the Death of JFK, University of California Press, Berkeley, 1993, pp. 30-33. Yet, that presentation ignores one aspect of the full story.

The strongest push for sending ground troops to Vietnam came from Walt Rostow (“the biggest Cold Warrior I’ve got,” Kennedy said). As deputy to the National Security Advisor McGeorge Bundy under Kennedy, Rostow had already weighted heavily on Kennedy’s decision to send military “advisors” to Vietnam. But Kennedy had grown weary of his bellicose advise (“Walt had ten ideas, nine of which would lead to disaster”).[13]David Halberstam, The Best and the Brightest, Random House, 1972, pp. 156-162. Walt Rostow was promoted by Johnson as National Security Advisor, and found in the new president more enthusiasm for his war plans. Rostow was the main promoter of the lie that Johnson’s Vietnam policy was a continuation of Kennedy’s.[14]John K. Galbraith, “Exit Strategy – In 1963, JFK ordered a complete withdrawal from Vietnam,” Oct/Nov 2003, www.bostonreview.net/articles/galbraith-exit-strategy-vietnam/

Johnson named Walt’s brother Eugene Under-Secretary of State, “appointed precisely to support the coming Israeli war” according to Joan Mellen.[15]Joan Mellen, Blood in the Water: How the US and Israel Conspired to Ambush the USS Liberty, Prometheus, 2018, p. 32. Walt and Eugene Rostow, sons of Jewish immigrants, had a good deal of control on U.S. Israeli policy. On June 8, 1967, the very day of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty, Walt had recommended to Johnson that Israel be allowed to keep the captured territories.

Why did the Rostow brothers want a Vietnam War? In “Was Vietnam a Holocaust for Zion” I explained why the Vietnam War was good—even crucial—for Israel. But don’t take my word for it. Here is what French president Charles De Gaulle said during his November 27, 1967 press conference:

Without the tragedy of Vietnam, the conflict between Israel and the Arabs would not have become what it has become. And if South-East Asia could experience a renewal of peace, the Middle-East would also find its way to peace, in the climate of détente which would follow such an event.[16]Film of De Gaulle’s press conference on fresques.ina.fr/de-gaulle/fiche-media/Gaulle00139/conference-de-presse-du-27-novembre-1967 at 41 min.

I am not implying that the shift in policy on Vietnam between Kennedy and Johnson does not support the theory that CIA and Pentagon killed Kennedy. It does. I am merely pointing out that Johnson’s pro-Israel cabinet members were at least as influential as Dulles and LeMay in Johnson’s reversal of Kennedy’s decision to withdraw from Vietnam, a fact which is also consistent with the theory that Israel was the prime mover.

Dimona

In his JFK and the Unspeakable, James Douglass has documented JFK’s deep commitment to prevent nuclear proliferation and even abolish weapons of mass destruction “before they abolish us” (Kennedy’s speech at the UN General Assembly, September 25, 1961). But Douglass makes no mention of JFK’s bitter confrontation with Ben-Gurion and Eshkol on that very issue. In this way, Douglass has proven that the historical school of which he has become a standard bearer is involved in a cover-up. To be generous, I ascribe it to a case of “cognitive inhibition”. I imagine it works somewhat like this: “My work—that is, the truth—is too important to risk it being censored by saying something bad about Israel.” Personally, I prefer to stick to Peter Janney’s principle that “the truth takes no prisoners.”

To his credit, DiEugenio does not eschew the Dimona story. His website links to two articles by Avner Cohen, author of Israel and the Bomb (1998), and William Burr of the National Security Archive, accompanied by declassified documents (here and here).[17]Avner Cohen and William Burr, “ Concerned About Nuclear Weapons Potential, John F. Kennedy Pushed for Inspection of Israel Nuclear Facilities,” April 21, 2016, nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2016-04-21/concerned-about-nuclear-weapons-potential-john-f-kennedy and “ The Battle of the Letters, 1963: John F. Kennedy, David Ben-Gurion, Levi Eshkol, and the U.S. Inspections of Dimona,” May 2, 2019, nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2019-05-02/battle-letters-1963-john-f-kennedy-david-ben-gurion-levi-eshkol-us-inspections-dimona DiEugenio himself writes about Israel’s effort to acquire nuclear weapons in “Nasser, Kennedy, the Middle East, and Israel” (2020):

Ben Gurion and the other Israeli leaders were so devoted to this aim that they resorted to two illicit means in order to secure the goal. First—there is no other way to say this—they involved themselves in a government-wide conspiracy to deceive Kennedy about the true nature of the Dimona reactor.

Israel’s second means to go nuclear was the theft of enriched Uranium from the U.S.:

Through [Roger] Mattson [author of Stealing the Atom Bomb], and also author Grant Smith [author of Big Israel], we know today that Israel had stolen hundreds of pounds of highly enriched uranium out of what was essentially their shell plant in Apollo, Pennsylvania, called NUMEC.[18]DiEugenio, “Nasser, Kennedy, the Middle East, and Israel,” 22 October 2020, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/nasser-kennedy-the-middle-east-and-israel For more detail, read DiEugenio’s review of Roger Mattson’s book Stealing the Atom Bomb (2016), “How Israel Stole the Bomb”, September 11, 2016, on consortiumnews.com/2016/09/11/how-israel-stole-the-bomb/ Read also DiEugenio’s review of Monika Wiesak, America’s Last President.

Stone and DiEugenio mention the first of these Israeli deceptions in their film (the long version only, episode 3, 40:50). After a brief reminder of Kennedy’s decision to support the U.N. resolution for the return of Palestinian refugees, we are told:

The other problem Kennedy faced with Israel was the construction of the atomic reactor at Dimona. JFK was strongly against any proliferation of nuclear weaponry. He had been assured by Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion that Dimona was designed for peaceful uses of atomic energy. In the spring of 1963, Kennedy demanded full inspections by the US of the Dimona reactor, and threatened to place American aid for Israel in limbo if no agreement was reached. And at the time of his assassination, negotiations were in process for biannual inspections.

That is better than nothing. But since that story is only incidental to the thesis defended by Stone and DiEugenio, it seems to have been included only to immune the authors from the blame of covering it up, that Douglass deserves.

Interestingly, it is Stone who brings up this topic in this interview with Canadian journalist Éloïse Boies. At 34:20, DiEugenio states that “nobody was more anti-nuclear proliferation than John F. Kennedy. This was really a very important issue with him.” At this point, Stone interjects:

He took on Israel. He took on Ben-Gurion in Israel, because they were building a bomb that they’d stolen from us. And he really wanted to put a stop to that, but he, unfortunately died before, and Johnson carried through, knew about it and let it go, till Israel had the bomb by 1968. And even then, in 68, Johnson shut the Pentagon up. He said: “We are not going to announce this. The American people won’t know that Israel has the bomb.”

Notice Éloïse’s reaction: “Let’s talk about [something else].” The point is that, for Stone and DiEugenio, Dimona seems to be anecdotal and hardly relevant to solving the case. At the end (from 50:27), when asked “Who did it, and why?” they stick to the conclusion that Allen Dulles was the mastermind, with perhaps Curtis LeMay. But, they add as an afterthought, Dulles is only “the executioner” and “does get the OK from someone else. … You know who they are: the people with money” … like “David Rockefeller”. Éloïse gets it: “It’s all about money, at the end of the day.” It becomes absolutely ridiculous. When your theory implodes under its own hollowness, it’s time to change. But, as Stone says “once they’re locked in, it’s very hard for historians to go back” (19:10).

It might seem unfair for me to point to an interview rather than to the film itself. But the value of that interview is precisely to reveal the logical fallacies and confusions that are not apparent in the film.

Johnson

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In that same interview (from 40:30), Stone says: “I don’t think Johnson was involved in the murder.” DiEugenio adds: “Johnson fell for the CIA story coming out of Mexico City” (an Oswald impersonator visiting both the Soviet and the Cuban embassies in Mexico in October 1963). But then DiEugenio mentions that Edgar Hoover had told Johnson that the Mexico story was impossible, since neither the voice nor the photo provided by the Mexico CIA station fitted the real Oswald. So now “the question becomes: did Johnson really believe this?” This gets confusing. DiEugenio can’t seem to decide whether Johnson believed Oswald’s communist legend or not.

But DiEugenio’s dilemma has no reason to be. For not only Johnson knew the communist Oswald to be bogus; it was he who used this fake communist connection to block all investigations. DiEugenio is an admirer of the work of professor John M. Newman, whose books he reviewed (here, here, here, and here), and whom he interviewed for the film. One contribution of Newman, introduced in the 2008 edition of his book Oswald and the CIA and repeated in the first three volumes of his series The Assassination of President Kennedy, is, in his own words:

An essential element of the plot was a psychological operation to raise the specter of WWIII and the death of forty million Americans. This threat of a nuclear holocaust was then used by President Johnson to terrify Chief Justice Earl Warren and some of the other men who served on the Warren Commission to such an extent that they believed there was no alternative to writing a report stating Lee Oswald alone had assassinated the president.[19]John Newman, Where Angels Tread Lightly: The Assassination of President Kennedy, volume 1, self-published, 2017, p. xx; repeated in vol. 2, Countdown to Darkness, and in vol. 3, Into the Storm.

According to that theory, endorsed by DiEugenio in this review,[20]DiEugenio’s words: « In his new Epilogue for this 2008 edition, Newman explains why only someone who a.) Understood the inner workings of the national security state, and b.) Understood and controlled Oswald’s files, could have masterminded something as superhumanly complex as this scheme. One in which the conspiracy itself actually contained the seeds that would sprout the cover-up » (DiEugenio, “John Newman, Oswald and the CIA (re-issue),” 01 September 2008, on www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/newman-john-oswald-and-the-cia-re-issue Oswald’s profile as a communist pro-Castro activist was inbuilt in the plan (by none other than James Jesus Angleton), not for the purpose of starting WWIII, but as a national security pretext that Johnson could use to impose the lone-nut theory, lest the discovery of a conspiracy would “kick us into a war that can kill forty million Americans in an hour,” as Johnson kept repeating.[21]LBJ in a conversation to Senator Richard Russell on November 29, 1963, quoted in Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable, op. cit., p. 83. One important implication is that “many of the post-assassination lies and cover-ups were carried out by people who had nothing to do with the pre-existing plot to assassinate the president” and who “thought that what they were doing was in the best interests of the country.”[22]John Newman, Where Angels Tread Lightly, op. cit., p. xx. This applies to thousands of people from the Dallas Police to TV networks. But can it apply to Johnson himself? Given Johnson’s quick and efficient mastery of this device, it is much more likely that it was fabricated by Angleton specifically for Johnson and with his foreknowledge.

Yet DiEugenio and other authors on his site are dismissive of investigators who incriminate Johnson, and especially of Phillip Nelson, author of LBJ: The Mastermind of JFK’s Assassination. A big book like that (730 pages) is bound to contain some weak arguments, but the reviews in KennedysandKing.com (here and here) do not do justice to the strong evidence accumulated by Nelson that Johnson was actively involved, not just in the cover-up, but in the preparation of the Dallas ambush.[23]Phillip Nelson, LBJ: The Mastermind of JFK’s Assassination, XLibris, 2010, p. 377-378 (Read Nelson’s response to KennedysandKing.com here). DiEugenio concurs with Douglass that Johnson was unaware of the conspiracy against his president, but “chose to cover-up everything and surrender to Cold War prerogatives.”[24]Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable, op. cit., p. 81. He assumes that Johnson was a man who had no clear idea of his own in foreign policy and liked to be told what to do. That is at odds with everything we learn from Johnson’s biographers—especially Robert Caro.

From my viewpoint, which differs from Nelson’s, Johnson’s role in the assassination cannot be understood independently from Israel’s—nor can Angleton’s role. Johnson allowed, and probably planned, the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in 1967, and he excused Israel when the operation failed (“Johnson did not break relations with Israel, and there were no trials held over this atrocity,” notes DiEugenio).[25]DiEugenio, “Deconstructing JFK: A Coup d’État over Foreign Policy?” January 14, 2021, covertactionmagazine.com/2021/01/14/deconstructing-jfk-a-coup-detat-over-foreign-policy/ Not only that, but, as DiEugenio writes in “Nasser, Kennedy, the Middle East, and Israel”:

As Roger Mattson notes in his book on the subject, when the CIA alerted the new president that it appeared that Israel had now developed the atomic bomb, Johnson barely reacted. (Mattson, p. 97) There was no official investigation launched. In fact, Johnson told the CIA not to alert either State or Defense about the discovery.[26]DiEugenio, “Nasser, Kennedy, the Middle East, and Israel,” 22 October 2020, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/nasser-kennedy-the-middle-east-and-israel

For those two acts, Johnson qualifies as a traitor to the country he had been sworn to serve. If Johnson was working for someone, it was not for the “Eastern Establishment,” of which he had never been part; it was for Israel. Johnson was the initiator of a pro-Israel policy that Truman, Eisenhower, the Dulles brothers or the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Kennedy would never have imagined in their worst nightmare. It is today widely known that Johnson is the US president who “firmly pointed American policy in a pro-Israel direction.”

Conclusion

In conclusion, I find several logical flaws in DiEugenio’s general theory, the basis for Stone’s documentary:

  1. DiEugenio recognizes that the change of foreign policy from JFK to LBJ was most consequential in the Middle East, yet he blames the CIA and the Pentagon (Dulles and LeMay) for the assassination, although neither the CIA nor the Pentagon ever advocated the pro-Israel policy that Johnson set up. Johnson’s unprecedented support for Israel, to the point of treason, went against the approach advocated by the CIA, the Pentagon or the State Department. But it was the best foreign policy that Ben-Gurion could dream of.
  2. According to DiEugenio and the dominant school, the CIA’s prime motive for eliminating Kennedy would have been to resume their favored foreign policy toward Cuba, which Kennedy had stubbornly opposed. But that didn’t happen after the assassination. Johnson kept Kennedy’s pledge to Khrushchev not to invade Cuba, which Dulles and LeMay considered pure treason.
  3. DiEugenio agrees that Kennedy was intensely worried about nuclear proliferation, and that Israel posed him the most difficult problem. He also knows that Johnson did nothing to stop Israel from going nuclear, and showed neither surprise nor displeasure when told that Israel made its first nuclear bomb in 1968, with bomb-grade uranium stolen from the U.S. Johnson tried to keep it secret—which obviously was what Israel wanted. Yet DiEugenio does not see Dimona as having been a motive in the assassination, and finds no reason to suspect either Israel or Johnson.
  4. DiEugenio believes that JFK’s assassination was a “coup d’État over foreign policy,” and I agree that this is the only way to make sense of it. But the purpose of a coup d’État is to replace one head of state by another. Therefore, it is self-contradictory for DiEugenio to minimize Johnson’s role and motive in the assassination.

Actually, I think DiEugenio’s notion of a “cover-up about JFK’s foreign policy” needs to be qualified. Not all areas of Kennedy’s foreign policy are equally covered up. The three teachers of DiEugenio—Richard Mahoney, Philip Muehlenbeck and Robert Rakove—are published by Oxford University Press and Cambridge University Press: not exactly fringe publishers. Rakove and Muehlenbeck are even included in the bibliography of the Wikipedia article on Foreign policy of the John F. Kennedy administration” (so are James Douglass and John M. Newman). This Wikipedia article is quite accurate and detailed, with one exception for the section about “Israel and Arab States”—a fine hasbara job, probably by Bennett Naftali’s army of Zionist Wikipedia editors. See by yourself:

The real “cover-up about JFK’s foreign policy” is the cover-up about JFK’s Israeli policy. According to DiEugenio’s own logic, that points in the direction that DiEugenio is not looking.

Since DiEugenio sees a link between Kennedy’s assassination and his “posthumous assassination”, I also suggest that he gets a clue about Kennedy’s assassins by looking at the political profile of Kennedy’s “posthumous assassins”. The list includes, next to Seymour Hersh, authors who specialize in trashing the Kennedy family, like Ronald Kessler (The Sins of the Father, 1997), Edward Klein (The Kennedy Curse, 2004), or the incomparable C. David Heymann, the Mossad employee (by his own admission)[27]“C. David Heymann,” on spartacus-educational.com/JFKheymann.htm who wrote the salacious Bobby and Jackie: A Love Story (2009). Is there a pattern here?

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What about Howard Zinn, Gar Alperovitz, Martin Peretz, and Noam Chomsky, that DiEugenio blames in “The Left and the Death of Kennedy” (1997) for their defense of the Warren Commission report and their participation in the orgy of Kennedy-bashing. Chomsky, whom DiEugenio sees as the most nefarious liar when it comes to Kennedy’s presidency or his assassination (here and here), has nothing in common with Allen Dulles or Curtis LeMay. He is an anti-imperialist, and as such he should make Kennedy his hero, his icon. But Chomsky has another agenda: one of his specialties is blaming America for the crimes of Israel. As for Martin Peretz, DiEugenio writes that his New Republic buried Kennedy’s death in 1979, then “tried to bury his life.”

It actually made a feature article out of a review of the tawdry Horowitz-Collier family biography The Kennedys. Who did that publication find suitable to review this National Enquirer version of the Kennedy clan? None other than Midge Decter, wife of neo-conservative godfather Norman Podhoretz, mother-in-law of Elliot Abrams.

The Podhoretzs are not Eastern Establishment, but they hate the Kennedys. Their hatred is transgenerational and inextinguishable. If you doubt it, read the piece below, written by Norman’s son a week after the tragic death of John F. Kennedy Jr. The author imagines Satan—or is it Yahweh?—teasing Joe Kennedy in hell and bragging to have killed his grandson—a particularly heinous version of the “Kennedy curse”.

Perhaps DiEugenio should give more serious consideration to the “who” and the “why” of Kennedy’s “posthumous assassination”. But that would take him on the road less traveled, a dangerous path—some say suicidal.

Strangely, though, many other well-trodden roads seem to now converge on the Israeli trail:

And of course, we must add to the equation Israel’s criminal record for the last sixty years. Thanks to Ronen Bergman, author of Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations, we know that Israeli secret services has never had any inhibition against eliminating anyone perceived as a threat to Israel’s national security, especially when it comes to Israel’s nuclear hegemony in the Middle East. Bergman learned from the assassins themselves because, he writes, “acts that people in other countries might be ashamed to admit to are instead a source of pride for Israelis.”[33]Ronen Bergman, Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations, John Murray, 2019, p. xv.

We now know so much more than Stone and DiEugenio could know when they first got involved in Kennedy assassination research. But those who understood Israel’s power back then already had a clue. In March 1992, commenting critically on Stone’s motion picture JFK, American Congressman Paul Findley noted in the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs:

It is interesting — but not surprising — to note that in all the words written and uttered about the Kennedy assassination, Israel’s intelligence agency, the Mossad, has never been mentioned. … on this question, as on almost all others, American reporters and commentators cannot bring themselves to cast Israel in an unfavorable light — despite the obvious fact that Mossad complicity is as plausible as any of the other theories.

Three years later, Mike Piper filled the gap with Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy (expanded through five editions until 2005). His work has been ignored by most investigators, but in 2013, historian Martin Sandler (listen to him here) mentioned it in his precious edition of The Letters of John F. Kennedy, to introduce Kennedy’s letter to David Ben-Gurion dated May 18, 1963:

author Michael Collins Piper actually accused Israel of the crime. Of all the conspiracy theories, it remains one of the most intriguing. What is indisputable is that although it was kept out of the eye of both the press and the public, a bitter dispute had developed between Israeli prime minister David Ben-Gurion, who believed that his nation’s survival depended on its attaining nuclear capability, and Kennedy, who was vehemently opposed to it.[34]Martin Sandler, The Letters of John F. Kennedy, Bloomsbury Publishing, 2013, p. 333. Listen to Sandler here on this topic on www.c-span.org/video/?c4547313/user-clip-jfk-gurion-mossad-dimona

In his previous letter to Kennedy, dated May 12, Ben-Gurion had assured Kennedy that the Egyptians “want to follow the Nazi example,” and begged: “Mr. President, my people have the right to exist… and this existence is in danger.”[35]Avner Cohen, Israel and the Bomb, Columbia UP, 1998, pp. 109 and 14. He also made a bizarre digression about Jordanian King Hussein: “there is always a danger that one single bullet might put an end to his life and regime.”[36]Quoted in Monika Wiesak, America’s Last President: What the World Lost When It Lost John F. Kennedy, self-published, 2022, p. 214.

Notes

[1] DiEugenio, “Dodd and Dulles vs. Kennedy in Africa,” 15 February 1999, last modified 16 October 2016, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/dodd-and-dulles-vs-kennedy-in-africa

[2] “DiEugenio at the VMI seminar,” 16 September 2017, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/jim-dieugenio-at-the-vmi-seminar

[3] DiEugenio, “Introduction to JFK’s Foreign Policy: A Motive for Murder,” 22 December 2014, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/introduction-to-jfk-s-foreign-policy-a-motive-for-murder

[4] “DiEugenio at the VMI seminar, 16 September 2017, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/jim-dieugenio-at-the-vmi-seminar

[5] James Norwood, “Edmund Gullion, JFK, and the Shaping of a Foreign Policy in Vietnam,” 8 May 2018, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/edmund-gullion-jfk-and-the-shaping-of-a-foreign-policy-in-vietnam

[6] James Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters, Touchstone, 2008, pp. 107, 102.

[7] Quoted in “DiEugenio at the VMI seminar,” 16 September 2017, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/jim-dieugenio-at-the-vmi-seminar

[8] DiEugenio, “Deconstructing JFK: A Coup d’État over Foreign Policy?” January 14, 2021, covertactionmagazine.com/2021/01/14/deconstructing-jfk-a-coup-detat-over-foreign-policy/

[9] DiEugenio, “Deconstructing JFK: A Coup d’État over Foreign Policy?” January 14, 2021, covertactionmagazine.com/2021/01/14/deconstructing-jfk-a-coup-detat-over-foreign-policy/

[10] DiEugenio, “Nasser, Kennedy, the Middle East, and Israel,” 22 October 2020, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/nasser-kennedy-the-middle-east-and-israel

[11] DiEugenio, “Introduction to JFK’s Foreign Policy: A Motive for Murder,” 22 December 2014, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/introduction-to-jfk-s-foreign-policy-a-motive-for-murder

[12] Peter Dale Scott, Deep Politics and the Death of JFK, University of California Press, Berkeley, 1993, pp. 30-33.

[13] David Halberstam, The Best and the Brightest, Random House, 1972, pp. 156-162.

[14] John K. Galbraith, “Exit Strategy – In 1963, JFK ordered a complete withdrawal from Vietnam,” Oct/Nov 2003, www.bostonreview.net/articles/galbraith-exit-strategy-vietnam/

[15] Joan Mellen, Blood in the Water: How the US and Israel Conspired to Ambush the USS Liberty, Prometheus, 2018, p. 32.

[16] Film of De Gaulle’s press conference on fresques.ina.fr/de-gaulle/fiche-media/Gaulle00139/conference-de-presse-du-27-novembre-1967 at 41 min.

[17] Avner Cohen and William Burr, Concerned About Nuclear Weapons Potential, John F. Kennedy Pushed for Inspection of Israel Nuclear Facilities,” April 21, 2016, nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2016-04-21/concerned-about-nuclear-weapons-potential-john-f-kennedy and The Battle of the Letters, 1963: John F. Kennedy, David Ben-Gurion, Levi Eshkol, and the U.S. Inspections of Dimona,” May 2, 2019, nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2019-05-02/battle-letters-1963-john-f-kennedy-david-ben-gurion-levi-eshkol-us-inspections-dimona

[18] DiEugenio, “Nasser, Kennedy, the Middle East, and Israel,” 22 October 2020, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/nasser-kennedy-the-middle-east-and-israel For more detail, read DiEugenio’s review of Roger Mattson’s book Stealing the Atom Bomb (2016), “How Israel Stole the Bomb”, September 11, 2016, on consortiumnews.com/2016/09/11/how-israel-stole-the-bomb/ Read also DiEugenio’s review of Monika Wiesak, America’s Last President.

[19] John Newman, Where Angels Tread Lightly: The Assassination of President Kennedy, volume 1, self-published, 2017, p. xx; repeated in vol. 2, Countdown to Darkness, and in vol. 3, Into the Storm.

[20] DiEugenio’s words: « In his new Epilogue for this 2008 edition, Newman explains why only someone who a.) Understood the inner workings of the national security state, and b.) Understood and controlled Oswald’s files, could have masterminded something as superhumanly complex as this scheme. One in which the conspiracy itself actually contained the seeds that would sprout the cover-up » (DiEugenio, “John Newman, Oswald and the CIA (re-issue),” 01 September 2008, on www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/newman-john-oswald-and-the-cia-re-issue

[21] LBJ in a conversation to Senator Richard Russell on November 29, 1963, quoted in Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable, op. cit., p. 83.

[22] John Newman, Where Angels Tread Lightly, op. cit., p. xx.

[23] Phillip Nelson, LBJ: The Mastermind of JFK’s Assassination, XLibris, 2010, p. 377-378

[24] Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable, op. cit., p. 81.

[25] DiEugenio, “Deconstructing JFK: A Coup d’État over Foreign Policy?” January 14, 2021, covertactionmagazine.com/2021/01/14/deconstructing-jfk-a-coup-detat-over-foreign-policy/

[26] DiEugenio, “Nasser, Kennedy, the Middle East, and Israel,” 22 October 2020, www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/nasser-kennedy-the-middle-east-and-israel

[27] “C. David Heymann,” on spartacus-educational.com/JFKheymann.htm

[28] William Kunstler, My Life as a Radical Lawyer, Carol Publishing, 1994, p. 158.

[29] Michael Collins Piper, Final Judgment: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy, American Free Press, 6th ed., 2005, chapter 15, pp. 247-269.

[30] Natasha Mozgovaya, “Prominent Jewish-American politician Arlen Specter dies at 82,” Haaretz, October 14, 2012, www.haaretz.com/jewish/arlen-specter-dies-at-82-1.5192779.

[31] That shots came from the Dal Tex was suggested by Jim Garrison in his October 1967 Playboy interview, p. 165-166, ia801307.us.archive.org/20/items/JimGarrisonPlayboyInterview/Jim-Garrison-Playboy-Interview.pdf.

[32] Police report on fr.scribd.com/document/258263723/Police-report-on-sucide-of-de-Mohrenschildt; His wife confirmed to Jim Marrs that her husband thought that “the Jewish Mafia and the FBI” were out to get him: Jim Marrs, Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy, Carroll and Graf, 1989, p. 285.

[33] Ronen Bergman, Rise and Kill First: The Secret History of Israel’s Targeted Assassinations, John Murray, 2019, p. xv.

[34] Martin Sandler, The Letters of John F. Kennedy, Bloomsbury Publishing, 2013, p. 333. Listen to Sandler here on this topic on www.c-span.org/video/?c4547313/user-clip-jfk-gurion-mossad-dimona

[35] Avner Cohen, Israel and the Bomb, Columbia UP, 1998, pp. 109 and 14.

[36] Quoted in Monika Wiesak, America’s Last President: What the World Lost When It Lost John F. Kennedy, self-published, 2022, p. 214.

 
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  1. If you want to retain the idea of Kennedy as a ‘good’ president, it makes sense that he would have been a cold warrior prior to the Cuban/Turkish missile crisis who then, with new information, changed his mind. Because if he posed as a hawk while being a dove, he was a run-of -the-mill politician out to deceive his electorate, thus was part of the problem of American politics or, from a hawkish position, a ‘Massachusetts Candidate’.

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  2. “FORGET THE CIA, FORGET LYNDON JOHNSON, FORGET FIDEL CASTRO, THE MOSSAD KILLED JFK.”



    Video Link

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  3. SafeNow says:

    I am so old that I remember JFK. There are of course film clips one can watch, and books one can read, but as the old saying goes, you had to be there. As Carl Hubbell put it when discussing leading baseball players…”Gehrig was great of course, but somehow when he was at bat, it wasn’t the same as when DiMaggio came to the plate.”

    Another old saying might well he applicable. It goes something like this: “…men comb the horizon for a successor; but in this case, the search is futile, for his class was extinguished with him.”

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  4. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:

    Here we go again. Conclusive conclusions.

    1. So what if Israel had a motive? CIA had a lock on means and opportunity.

    2. A willfully obtuse fixation on policy here distorts JFK’s real problem with CIA: arbitrary conduct. That continued. CIA policy pivoted from Latin America to the Middle East because of mounting international pressure, e.g. the spanking Dan Mitrione got plus UN suasion culminating in the Convention Against Torture. “CIA didn’t invade Cuba therefore Izzies whacked JFK” is so stupid, it’s like answer A on the SATs, the one that weeds out the students who have to go to NYU.

    3. Oh bullshit, Ray Cline kept it secret, not Johnson. That sits there open source in the National Security Archive. CIA was fully onboard Nukes for Izzies.

    4. LBJ just saw his predecessor get his head blown off. He learned he is the puppet ruler, and the apex of the US command structure is DDO. The test of whether you’re actually in charge is whether you can shoot your boss, and just wing him, and nothing happens to you, like DCI emeritus Bush.

    This absolute last-ditch fallback limited hangout is reaching the point of diminishing returns. What good is it if you junior spy cadets only fool people with second-quintile IQs? You tricked them with the vax already, so they’re just gonna drop dead. Tell your COTR at Langley it’s hopeless, they’re busted.

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  5. @Anonymous

    1. So what if Israel had a motive? CIA had a lock on means and opportunity.

    What are you talking about fool ?

    The CIA/Mossad/Britain’s MI6 are all working in cahoots with one another and are all subordinate to the SAME master.
    ie: the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel.

    Yes, that cartel of bankers of which the Rothschild family dynasty is the core constituent – coupled to the fortunes and influence of the other old and new money Jewish family dynasties.
    These family fiefdoms, as a collective, controlled the entirety of the western financial system in 1963, as indeed they do today.

    And of course, the Apartheid Israeli state is a construct of this banking cartel, a bastard child of sorts.
    The creation of the Israeli colonial settler state is owed to this cartel of bankers.

    More importantly, the CONTINUED EXISTENCE of Israel is dependent on this cartel of bankers, because they OWN the U.S Congress and the executive, and thus control U.S/NATO foreign policy for which the Israeli state depends on for its survival.

    This cartel of bankers expended a lot of time/money/energy over many decades in orchestrating the conditions and preparing the elaborate psyops/hoaxes (eg: the Holohoax), for the creation of Israel.
    The creation of this myth of ‘6 million killed in gas chambers by the Nazis’ would enable their tribe to gain some sympathy from the gullible western citizenry in the event that they decided to steal the land of another people.

    Bottom Line : This cartel of bankers ordered the hit on JFK, because they couldn’t risk any impediments that might have existential consequences for the Apartheid Israel state.

    BTW Laurent Guyenot, I appreciate your treatment of James Douglass and his book ‘JFK and the Unspeakable … ‘.
    Douglass is a gutless coward for making no mention in his book of the Dimona/Ben Gurion angle in the JFK coup d’etat.

    I can’t believe that some people are so stupid as to say that Douglass’ crap is the best JFK book they’ve ever read.
    It is nothing other than a misdirection to appease the Zionists and thus make a few more shekels for the author in book royalties .
    After all, the Zionist owned major book publishing houses are only too willing to promote and disseminate any JFK book that deflects attention away from the actual Talmudic culprits.

  6. @Fluesterwitz

    Pre-’62 JFK did the normal politician thing: spouting obligatory rhetoric he only half-believed, at best, knowing it wasn’t the full story. Once in power he tried to do the right thing within the parameters of the possible. He was always a supporter of third world nationalism (Nasser etc.) as Laurent explains, though not a fan of communism. So yes, his main conflict was with the Israelis, not the Cold Warriors.

    After the missile crisis he started getting out in front of public opinion and way out in front of the Cold War bureaucratic consensus. So the Cold Warriors turned against him, and a coalition of Cold Warriors and Israelis killed him.

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  7. I was just a teenager when he died but I felt it deeply too. We all did here in Boston. Something very special was taken from us, maybe the one and only time in our lives that such a grand moment could happen. Here was a young vital man, so welcome after years out of memory of stodgy old grandpa Ike, who didn’t do much but play golf and quietly have respectable middle class Republican heart attacks. (We didn’t know about the CIA then either). And we’d become bored to tears with the gr’ups’ endless blather about doubleya-doubleya-two (no capital-H holocaust in our faces yet). Most of all, he was one of us (I was in Catholic school then, though I’d already realized it was a load of mean-spirited hooey) and was by damn going to show those thin-lipped tight-assed WASP mother-effers how to run a free country. Even Italian kids suspended our contempt for the Irish (and very mutual it was indeed) for this man. I suppose if John Kennedy really had the policy some falsely now claim he had, and asked me to go to Vietnam, I would have considered it, but when the cowboy did, I just said, up yours, Lyndon. Country survived 180 years of history, then it’s all undone by one magic bullet, it’s enough to break your heart. And soon enough (like those WW2 guys) there won’t be a one of us left to tell you how it was for us back there after all.

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  8. folkvangr says:

    I am sure lots of people are familiar with the following citation from Kennedy’s speeches. Looks like things went from bad -to-worse-to horrific-to-apocalyptic since his assassination:

    “The word ‘secrecy’ is anathema in a free and open society; we as a people are historically and inherently opposed to secret societies, to conspiracies, to secret negotiations. Our way of life is under attack. Those who make us enemies are spread across the globe. No war has ever posed a greater threat to our security than this one. If you are looking for a clear and present danger, I can only assure you that it has never been greater or more present than it is now. For we are under attack throughout the world by a vast and ruthless conspiracy which relies primarily on covert means to extend its influence. On infiltration rather than invasion, on subversion rather than elections, on intimidation rather than self-determination, on guerrillas by night rather than armies by day. It is a system that has devoted vast human and material resources to building a tightly woven, highly efficient machinery that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Preparations are covert, not public. Mistakes are covered up rather than made public. Critics are silenced rather than appreciated. No expenditure is questioned, no rumour is printed, no secret is revealed”.

    Who allowed all that to happen? We did.

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  9. Anonmyass says:

    Very interesting as always. Thanks.

  10. @Priss Factor

    That is one theory.

    The truth is irretrievable. You cannot un-shuffle a shuffled deck of cards by continuing to shuffle. That is the current status of the facts in this matter. There was a small chance of getting to the bottom of it with an all out attack, all available resources, if and only if it had been started before 1 June 1964.

    Why do you suppose all those witnesses got whacked?

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  11. Anonymous[377] • Disclaimer says:

    Truth Vig, re 5. It’s certainly evident that CIA, MI6, and Mossad are constituents of the same transnational criminal enterprise. The whole world would agree, since they drafted and joined UNTOC to deal with it. However, you need to think through your Zio-usury master notions. They are illogical and dumb.

    Say I am a hooknosed Zio usury banker. I go to CIA DO and say in my haughtiest Jew tones, “Do this thing!” DO sez, “No.” So I give my best smarmy manipulative Jewsmile and I say, “I’ll pay you!” And I rub my thumb and fingers together with an enticing leer of lascivious Jewy excitement.

    And CIA DO says, “No, here’s what we’ll do. You give me money and I don’t do the thing. Because I can kill you and get away with it. I can cut slits in your dick and get away with it. I can bury you alive a little and get away with it. I can put this big object up your asshole and get away with it, See? Oh! Thank you for that nice Jew money! Now give me more. What? Oh you want me to dig you up? No, not yet.”

    Pro tip: if a genii comes out of a bottle and offers you shitloads of Jew usury money, or impunity, take the impunity. It’s way better.

    Face it, savant, all you got is unsupported assertions of some half-baked tacit control mechanism. That’s why you’re so downtrodden and impotent in life.

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  12. Dutch Boy says:
    @SafeNow

    Whatever one thinks of JFK as a man or who killed him, his assassination was a turning point in American history. I have often thought of Nov. 22, 1963 as the end of the 1950s and the beginning of the long slide into forever war and social chaos that we are still in.

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  13. People may have heard the name of Walt Rostow as an economist, but I had no idea that he played such a role in the Vietnam war. After reading L.G.’s article I decided to read the long Wikipedia article about Rostow and was surprised. Rostow lyed to Johnson, manipulated him, sabotaged any attempt to end the war. The whole question of continuing and escalating the war depended on what Johnson decided and it seems that he was persuaded by Rostow to keep the war going. His role was decisive.

    After Rostow, according to a historian (Greg Grandin) who wrote a book about Kissinger, Kissinger was the person who was responsible for the adoption of a neoconservative foreign policy that led to military interventions, coups and wars. We know who pushed for the Gulf War. A newspaper published the name of 25 people who were behind this war (24 of them had a similar background). And now we have a war in the Ukraine and it seems that the State Department under Blinken plays a central role in this war. I asked myself if Bliken doesn’t play a similar role in relation to Biden as the role played by Rostow in relation to Johnson.

  14. fnn says:

    “the Dulles brothers”

    Moldbug likes to point out that John Foster Dulles was a Popular Front-style leftist in 1942. How much did he change? The Dulles brothers are typically treated as clones who were both arch-Cold Warriors. How much of the Cold War was fake? Why did Ike abandon Hungary in 1956 while Biden is all-in for Ukraine in 2022?

    https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2009/01/gentle-introduction-to-unqualified/

    Religion: American Malvern
    Monday, Mar. 16, 1942 ^[TIME magazine]

    These are the high spots of organized U.S. Protestantism’s super-protestant new program for a just and durable peace after World War II:

    Ultimately, “a world government of delegated powers.”
    Complete abandonment of U.S. isolationism.
    Strong immediate limitations on national sovereignty.
    International control of all armies & navies.
    “A universal system of money … so planned as to prevent inflation and deflation.”
    Worldwide freedom of immigration.
    Progressive elimination of all tariff and quota restrictions on world trade.
    “Autonomy for all subject and colonial peoples” (with much better treatment for Negroes in the U.S.).
    “No punitive reparations, no humiliating decrees of war guilt, no arbitrary dismemberment of nations.”
    A “democratically controlled” international bank “to make development capital available in all parts of the world without the predatory and imperialistic aftermath so characteristic of large-scale private and governmental loans.”
    This program was adopted last week by 375 appointed representatives of 30-odd denominations called together at Ohio Wesleyan University by the Federal Council of Churches. Every local Protestant church in the country will now be urged to get behind the program.

    The meeting showed its temper early by passing a set of 13 “requisite principles for peace” submitted by Chairman John Foster Dulles and his inter-church Commission to Study the Bases of a Just and Durable Peace.

  15. Franz says:

    A big point about JFK’s “liberalism” is that he was at odds with the Red Thirties Old New Deal people to an amazing degree.

    After JFK’s death those very people worked their way into Johnson’s government and it was treason all the way, for LBJ and ever since.

    JFK was closer to the citizen action liberalism that FDR eschewed. How else to explain his many statements on armed and prepared men, such as this on January 29, 1961:

    “Today we need a nation of minute men; citizens who are not only prepared to take up arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as a basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom…”

    https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/about-jfk/life-of-john-f-kennedy/john-f-kennedy-quotations/commemorative-message-on-roosevelt-day

    The fact that it was an FDR memorial he said this makes it interesting, FDR being the patron of Bolshevik Liberalism.

  16. onebornfree says: • Website

    THE LINCOLN-KENNEDY “COINCIDENCES”

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    Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
    John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

    Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860
    John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

    The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain 7 letters.

    Both Presidents were particularly concerned with Civil Rights.

    Both wives of both Presidents lost children while living in the White House.

    Both Presidents were shot on a Friday. Both the Presidents were shot in the head.

    President Lincoln’s secretary was named “Miss Kennedy”.
    President Kennedy’s secretary was named “Miss Lincoln”.

    Both were assassinated by Southerners. Both were succeeded by Southerners.
    Both successors to both Presidents were both named “Johnson”.

    Andrew Johnson who succeeded Lincoln was born in 1808.
    Lyndon Johnson who succeeded Kennedy was born in 1908.

    John Wilkes Booth (3 names) who allegedly assassinated Lincoln was born in 1839.
    Lee Harvey Oswald (3 names) who allegedly assassinated Kennedy was born in 1939.

    Both assassins were known by their 3 names. Both the names are comprised of 15 letters.

    Lincoln was shot at a theatre called “the Ford theatre”.
    Kennedy was shot in a car – made by Ford – called “Lincoln”.

    [ For even more strange coincidences see : https://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?p=2416570#p2416570 ]

    Regards, onebornfree
    https://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/

    • Replies: @Wade
  17. dearieme says:
    @folkvangr

    The word ‘secrecy’ is anathema in a free and open societysaid the man who secretly tape-recorded his advisors.

    Kennedy is puffed up with sentimental hogwash because he was assassinated. If he hadn’t been, he’d be seen as the tool who multiplied the number of US troops in Vietnam twenty-fold, not talked about as the potential saviour of mankind.

    • Agree: Hibernian, Che Guava
    • Troll: P. Cleburne
    • Replies: @JWalters
    , @RJ Macready
  18. Thomasina says:

    “‘Duping delight’ is when someone cannot contain their glee that they are deceiving someone, and the smirk of ‘duping delight’ is this glee leaking out despite their best intentions to keep it concealed.”

    Shortly after President Kennedy’s assassination, LBJ is sworn in aboard Air Force One. Mrs. Kennedy is standing next to LBJ; her husband has just been assassinated. She’s still wearing the blood-spattered outfit. But you could see the glee written all over the faces of LBJ and Lady Bird. Lady Bird can be seen openly smiling in several photos, and LBJ is caught smiling too.

    They were not fearful. You don’t smile when you’re afraid. You would think that after your boss has just been assassinated you’d be a little fearful that whoever did it might be coming after you. But, no, they weren’t afraid because they knew that wasn’t going to happen.

    And you also can’t smile when you’re angry. And you’d think they would be angry, but they’re not.

    No fear, no anger. That’s all I needed to see.

    Great article, Mr. Guyenot!

  19. Thomasina says:
    @Anonymous

    “Face it, savant, all you got is unsupported assertions of some half-baked tacit control mechanism. That’s why you’re so downtrodden and impotent in life.”

    Your anger tells me that Truth Vigilante is right over the target (the banking cartel). That’s what I thought too. Thanks.

    • Agree: Bro43rd
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  20. David B says:

    As an American patriot who also believes that the truth takes no prisoners, I want to thank you, Laurent, for this latest superb essay on Israel and the murder of President Kennedy.

    • Agree: Iris
  21. JR Foley says:
    @Observator

    Connelly winking at LB Johnson —in room following shooting—

  22. Durruti says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    The CIA/Mossad/Britain’s MI6 are all working in cahoots with one another and are all subordinate to the SAME master.
    ie: the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel.

    Yes, that cartel of bankers of which the Rothschild family dynasty is the core constituent – coupled to the fortunes and influence of the other old and new money Jewish family dynasties.
    These family fiefdoms, as a collective, controlled the entirety of the western financial system in 1963, as indeed they do today.

    This is the conclusive answer – WHO DID IT, who murdered President John F. Kennedy, and overthrew our Republic.

    Bottom Line : This cartel of bankers ordered the hit on JFK, because they couldn’t risk any impediments that might have existential consequences for the Apartheid Israel state.

    As usual:

    These endless articles, on who killed J F Kennedy, in the so-called ‘alternate media’ are attempting to (as we say), “Talk the topic to death.” Misdirection 101 – at the College of your choice.

    Guyénot nicely explains a key piece of the history of the first and last assassinations of John F Kennedy. Our last Constitutional President has been repeatedly assassinated, first by falsely, describing, or not explaining at all, his political aims. The other assassination is repeated slander against, as Guyénot explains, J F Kennedy‘s “legacy.”

    Character assassination is only one part of the propaganda unleashed against the Kennedy legacy. Another part has consisted in distorting the historical record of Kennedy’s presidency, and particularly the radical but short-lived innovations of his foreign policy.

    Individuals hesitate to identify the Assassins, and the Engineers of the Coup D’état of November 22, 1963, because the next question will come from future generations, “Why didn’t you do anything about it – Daddy? Why didn’t you fight back?

    Dr. Peter J. Antonsen – nom de guerre, Durruti

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  23. Great article, as usual. I do want to throw out something for consideration–Dulles, and most of the CIA big hitters from the 50s -70s, not even including Angleton, were entangled with Jews and the Middle East in a variety of ways predating Israel/Mossad and the CIA. Dulles, for example, going back to his days at State and the WW1 era was the man who proved the–Protocols of the Elders of Zion–a hoax. If true, that is no small feat even for a young man from the Atlantic seaboard upper crust serving in Istanbul. This would be right after his innovation of placing listening devices (short wave receivers) on an American ship in the Sea of Marmara so as to intercept Bolshevik transmissions from Moscow to South Russia. He also seems to be the first American, still at State, to recognize the importance of oil, the Middle East, especially Iraq in his case, and the need for espionage (and how to cover that espionage with more general economic and political cover).

    Still in Istanbul, Dulles, by birth tied into the Anglo-American aristocracy, which was indeed tied into the Anglo-Jewish aristocracy both in America and Britain, had become keenly aware of the importance of the race over the unexplored oil reserves of the Middle East. He soon realized, from his many conversations, that oil men travel far and wide, are not usually suspected of any dubious intention when out in various locales, and their occupation is their traveling credentials. In a historically significant July 1924 official State Department communication to his superiors, Dulles proposed, based on his newly formulated means of ground intelligence gathering, that the United States begin using the search for oil as a cover for spying. His first trial run at this new “weapon” in information gathering would be to open up diplomatic relations with the nation of Iraq, hitherto without official diplomats. With relations established, Dulles felt that the United States could keep an eye on oil-drilling activity, along with the more usual political and economic affairs. This memorandum is not to be found in the usual place, State Department archives, but instead in Dulles’s personal files.

    My point with the above is that the CIA was full of old-stock Anglo-American upper crust types who were connected by their station and birth to Anglo-Jewry. So though there may not be a direct overt support or concern for Israel in the 1960s, at least on paper, there is a deeper and longer based connection to high finance Jewry and the Middle East.

    • Thanks: Z-man
  24. IronForge says:

    Author:

    Great+Interesting Article and following Discourse.

    There isn’t a “Thumbs Up” or “Thanks” Option within the Article Body, so here is mine.

  25. JWalters says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Thanks for that good description of the Israel Empire that has colonized the US and Europe. For new UR readers who want more detailed evidence supporting this description, see
    War Profiteers and Israel’s Bank
    https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html

    Thus, today the US is merely a proxy for the Israel Empire’s attack on Russia.

  26. JWalters says:
    @folkvangr

    Thanks for quoting that speech.

    Given the era, one might think Kennedy was talking about Communism. But in the entire speech he never even mentions Communism. Why not? I think he knew about the Zionist plot to rule the world from Jerusalem, and was indirectly referring to them.

    As the evidence accumulates, it’s increasingly clear that Kennedy was standing up to the Talmudist Mafia’s threat to the world. His murder was another of their great crimes.

    • Replies: @folkvangr
  27. JWalters says:
    @dearieme

    he’d be seen as the tool who multiplied the number of US troops in Vietnam twenty-fold

    Such massive “ignorance” can only come from a troll. How’s the weather in Tel Aviv? Are you ready to be blown to smithereens in the WWIII Israel is engineering?

    • Agree: Truth Vigilante, Durruti
  28. @dearieme

    He got America to the moon. That’s more than enough creds. JFK juiced up NASA, otherwise it was Soviet success in space left and right until then.

    • Replies: @OrangeSmoke
  29. @Thomasina

    Thanks.
    “‘Duping delight’ is when someone cannot contain their glee that they are deceiving someone, and the smirk of ‘duping delight’ is this glee leaking out despite their best intentions to keep it concealed.”
    Here is another one: Zapruder two hours later:

    • Thanks: Thomasina
  30. @JR Foley

    Connally was in the hospital (and declared he never believed in the magic bullet and never will). Johnson was winking to US Rep Albert Thomas:

    • Replies: @Durruti
  31. @JR Foley

    Connelly winking?
    You’re confused.
    Albert Thomas

  32. @Anonymous

    How to respond to that ?

    I mean, so many asinine assertions yet so few hours in the day remaining with which to humiliate you in front of the UR readership.
    Not to worry, I’ll take on that burden.

    First of all, some history on how the CIA came about :

    President Franklin D. Roosevelt authorised the creation of an intelligence service modelled after the British Secret Intelligence Service (MI6), and Special Operations Executive.
    This led to the creation of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) established by a Presidential military order issued by President Roosevelt on June 13, 1942.

    Victor Rothschild (3rd Baron Rothschild), was himself working within MI5 during WWII.

    On the American side, the Jewish powerbrokers like Bernard Baruch and Henry Morgenthau Jr ran U.S foreign policy during WWII.
    THEY told FDR what to do and when to do it. And needless to say, they instructed FDR to create the OSS, which was modelled on the British (Rothschild controlled) equivalent.

    After WWII, he OSS morphed into becoming the CIA. But, at the end of the day, it was ALWAYS CONTROLLED BY THE ZIONIST USURY BANKING CARTEL.

    NO ONE in the CIA ever got to a position of power within the CIA UNLESS they were carefully vetted bu ZOG first, and prostrated themselves to their Talmudic overlords, demonstrating complete LOYALTY to them.

    That’s why James Jesus Angleton got to where he did and why Angleton was the pivotal figure within the CIA that coordinated the JFK coup d’etat.

    So, when you come up with asinine scenarios like :

    [MORE]

    Say I am a hooknosed Zio usury banker. I go to CIA and say ….. “Do this thing!” .

    And CIA says, “No, here’s what we’ll do. You give me money and I don’t do the thing.
    Because I can kill you and get away with it. I can cut slits in your dick and get away with it. I can bury you alive a little and get away with it.

    …. I can’t help myself but burst into uncontrolled laughter.
    How infantile would one be to entertain this thought for even one second ?

    First, some background on who the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel are and the extent of their financial and political clout.

    They possess, AT A MINIMUM, multiples of U.S GDP in financial wherewithal.

    Got that ?

    ie: the collective net worth of Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Bill Gates (and throw in Warren Buffet for good measure), is a ROUNDING ERROR in comparison to what the Zio cabal possesses.

    IN ADDITION to that, they OWN/Control the U.S Federal Reserve, the Bank of England, the ECB and every western central bank of note, with which they can print/digitally conjure into existence SCORES OF TRILLIONS of USD, GBP, Euros and the rest.

    Sold untold trillions can (and HAVE) been doled out to themselves and their Zio cronies over the years.

    Now, Mr Anonymous/Ignoronymous, WHAT do you think said bankers do with this OBSCENE WEALTH ?
    Do they sit around all day counting it and rolling around in that cash and boasting about how wealthy they are ?

    NO.

    They BUY political power with it.
    They BUY control of the U.S Congress/both parties in the One Party Tyranny of the U.S that poses as a duopoloy.
    They BUY control of EVERY western politician of note.
    They BUY control of the entirety of the western MSM and all the major book publishing houses.
    They BUY control of all the western Health Bureaucracies and western National Academies of Science (enabling them to pull off the Covid Psyop and the Anthropogenic Global Warming hoax).

    Mr Ignoronymus, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMPREHENSION OF THE MAGNITUDE OF THEIR POWER ?

    Do you know what the CIA is comprised of ? It is just a bunch of government bureaucrats that put in their 20 or 30 years of service then retire on a government pension.
    Yes, there are some wicked conscience-free bastards in the mix, but at the end of the day, they’re just government workers. ie: workers that have families and thus can be threatened/intimidated if they ever get out of line.
    If ANY one of them does not toe the line and follow EXACTLY the script dictated by their controllers, one or more of their family members might have an unfortunate accident.
    The personnel within said organisation come and go.
    Some get promoted. Some don’t.

    WHO DO YOU THINK DECIDES WHAT PERSON WITHIN THE CIA GETS PROMOTED AND WHO DOESN’T ?
    There is a entity that is ONE THOUSAND TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN THE CIA (and that’s factoring in all of the CIA’s black budgets/drug money/or whatever subversive enterprise that earns revenue for them).

    And that entity is of course ZOG (aka the Zio cabal/aka the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel)

    Bottom Line : Yes, the CIA can kill YOU and your family and get away with it.
    They can bury YOU and your family Mr Ignoronymous, and get away with.
    They can even kill a sitting U.S Senator (Paul Wellstone/his wife/his daughter/and some of Wellstone’s staff members – which indeed they (or some other entity subordinate to ZOG – acting on ZOG’s orders) did in fact accomplish in October 2002.

    But for ANYONE in the CIA to even talk back or express dissent to the ZOG establishment, let alone harm a hair on their head, would mean (at best) instant dismissal from the organisation.

    At worst, he could well end up like Mafia mobster John Roselli*.

    (* From Wikipedia: On August 7, 1976, ten days after his disappearance, Roselli’s decomposing body was found by a fisherman in a 55-gallon steel fuel drum floating in Dumfoundling Bay near Miami, Florida).

    In closing, I suggest you do some actual research around the topic of ‘What Entity Rules the [western] world’ – seeing as they certainly have no control over the ‘Axis of Virtue’ (otherwise known as Russia/China/Iran/Syria/Cube/Venezuela/Nth Korea).

    It doesn’t take a lot of research to determine that the CIA is a SUBORDINATE TOOL (one of numerous tools – and NOT even the most potent tool in their armoury), owned by ZOG, that helps them maintain their power.

    With a click of their fingers, ZOG could dissolve the CIA, and ALL ITS PERSONNEL WOULD BE DEAD WITHIN A WEEK (if not sooner), should they so ordain it.

    You and Chucky Schumer may be scared to death of them.
    But ZOG is no more in fear of them than a full grown African Bull Elephant fears a solitary termite.

    • Agree: A. Clifton, Durruti
    • Thanks: CelestiaQuesta
  33. @Truth Vigilante

    I made a typo in that last comment of mine.

    One of my sentences begins with ‘Sold untold trillions …. ‘ when it was meant to say ‘ SAID untold trillions’.

    BTW, seeing as Dr Kevin Barrett is participating in the commentary in this thread, I should make an acknowledgement, rather than being accused of plagiarism.

    In one of Dr Barrett’s newsletters I received many moons ago, he coined the phrase ‘Zionist Dominated Usury Banking Cartel’.
    Well, I stole that from him and abbreviated it to Zionist Usury Banking Cartel (ZUBCAR).

    After all, for all intents and purposes, to the extent that there is some non-Jewish participation in this cartel, it is infinitesimal in relation to the wealth/control exercised by the Zionist components.

    So Kevin Barrett, if you’re reading this, in relation to your comment # 6 where you mention the ‘coalition of Cold Warriors’ that turned against JFK, would you care to specify what (((tribe))) said Cold Warriors are disproportionately from ?

    Moreover, if you were to mention the likes of General Curtis LeMay, someone of English and distant French Huguenot heritage, and thus not a member of the ‘tribe’, do you honestly think he said and did what he did during his career without prompting/financial remuneration from some cartel of bankers out there in the ether ?
    You know, perhaps the same cartel of bankers that financed Lindsey Graham’s and John McCain’s careers.

  34. @Kevin Barrett

    DiEugenio rejects [Douglass’] mythical portrayal of JFK as a Cold Warrior converted to peacemaking during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.

    Apparently, reasonable people disagree on whether Kennedy was a man who learned better or one “spouting obligatory rhetoric”. If the latter was the case, he comes across as recklessly opportunistic, his removal maybe not quite as consequential as if the former applied.

  35. @UncommonGround

    Rostow lied to Johnson, manipulated him, sabotaged any attempt to end the war.

    What are you talking about ?
    You’re making it sound like LBJ, the first Jewish POTUS, the most corrupt/unscrupulous/murderous/conscience-free politician that America ever produced, was some naive and innocent bystander, and that, to the extent he made some bad decisions, it was because his advisers led him astray.

    Make no mistake, LBJ knew EXACTLY what was going on at ALL TIMES.

    He got his orders directly from the Vampire Squid (aka ZOG) himself and handed them out to his subordinates.

    Mr/Ms ‘Uncommon’ it is clear from your comment that you really have no comprehension of LBJ’s crimes and how much of a P.O.S he was.
    You really need to read the following article to get a handle on what despicable low-life this man was :

    https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=161630

    Because most LBJ fans have a limited attention span and are not likely to read that lengthy article, here are some choice bits from it :

    In two key areas of U.S. foreign policy Johnson completely reversed Kennedy’s position. In Oct 1963 Kennedy had ordered a complete withdrawal of US forces from Vietnam. It never happened. Instead under President Johnson US military participation in the conflict escalated dramatically.

    While regarding Israel’s nuclear activities, under President Johnson demands for inspections of Dimona were dropped and the US assumed a ‘don’t ask don’t tell’ policy that effectively gave Tel Aviv the green light for a nuclear weapons program

    .

    And …

    Most students of the Arab-Israeli conflict can identify Johnson as the president during the 1967 war. But few know about LBJ’s actions to rescue hundreds of endangered Jews during the Holohoax – actions that could have thrown him out of Congress and into jail.
    Appropriately enough, the annual Jerusalem Conference announced this week that it will honour Johnson.

    Historians have revealed that Johnson, while serving as a young congressman in 1938 and 1939, arranged for visas to be supplied to Jews in Warsaw, and oversaw the apparently illegal immigration of hundreds of Jews through the port of Galveston, Texas….

    Also ….

    Research into Johnson’s personal history indicates that he inherited his concern for the Jewish people from his family. His aunt Jessie Johnson Hatcher, a major influence on LBJ, was a member of the Zionist Organisation of America. According to [the researcher] Gomolak, Aunt Jessie had nurtured LBJ’s commitment to befriending Jews for 50 years. As a young boy, Lyndon watched his politically active grandfather “Big Sam” and father “Little Sam” seek clemency for Leo Frank, the Jewish victim of a blood libel in Atlanta

    Frank was lynched by a mob in 1915, and the Ku Klux Klan in Texas threatened to kill the Johnsons. The Johnsons later told friends that Lyndon’s family hid in their cellar while his father and uncles stood guard with shotguns on their porch in case of KKK attacks. Johnson’s speechwriter later stated, “Johnson often cited Leo Frank’s lynching as the source of his opposition to both anti-Semitism and isolationism.”

    This too …

    [MORE]

    FIVE DAYS after taking office in 1937, LBJ broke with the “Dixiecrats” and supported an immigration bill that would naturalize illegal aliens, mostly Jews from Lithuania and Poland.

    That same year, LBJ warned Jewish friend, Jim Novy, that European Jews faced annihilation. “Get as many Jewish people as possible out of Germany and Poland,” were Johnson’s instructions. Somehow, Johnson provided him with a pile of signed immigration papers that were used to get 42 Jews out of Warsaw.
    But that wasn’t enough. According to historian James M. Smallwood, Congressman Johnson used legal and sometimes illegal methods to smuggle “hundreds of Jews into Texas, using Galveston as the entry port.
    Enough money could buy false passports and fake visas in Cuba, Mexico and other Latin American countries. Johnson smuggled boatloads and planeloads of Jews into Texas. He hid them in the Texas National Youth Administration. Johnson saved at least four or five hundred Jews, possibly more.”

    And lastly …

    During World War II Johnson joined Novy at a small Austin gathering to sell $65,000 in war bonds. According to Gomolak, Novy and Johnson then raised a very “substantial sum for arms for Jewish underground fighters in Palestine.” One source cited by the historian reports that “Novy and Johnson had been secretly shipping heavy crates labeled ‘Texas Grapefruit’ – but containing arms – to Jewish underground ‘freedom fighters’ in Palestine.”

    A decade later while serving in the Senate, Johnson blocked the Eisenhower administration’s attempts to apply sanctions against Israel following the 1956 Sinai Campaign. “The indefatigable Johnson had never ceased pressure on the administration,” wrote I.L. “Si” Kenen, the head of AIPAC at the time.
    As Senate majority leader, Johnson consistently blocked the anti-Israel initiatives of his fellow Democrat, William Fulbright, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Among Johnson’s closest advisers during this period were several strong pro-Israel advocates, including Benjamin Cohen (who 30 years earlier was the liaison between Supreme Court justice Louis Brandeis and Chaim Weizmann) and Abe Fortas, the legendary Washington “insider.”

    And there is much more in the article that confirms LBJ was using every underhanded way possible to look out for his tribe.

    In addition to all of the above we have numerous people that LBJ ordered killed during his political career, culminating in his role in the JFK coup d’etat, his pivotal role in the cover up, the USS Liberty incident and more.

    I’ve seen other articles that show that LBJ, in his capacity as Senate majority leader, was able to get all manner of near new (and new – still in the crate), WWII surplus American military hardware and munitions to the Apartheid Israeli state and ‘sold’ to them at cents on the dollar of its actual worth.

    You know, I just don’t get it with you Americans. I’ve seen various surveys conducted over the years and Americans tend to score LBJ pretty highly in polls asking about ‘Best President’.

    I’m an Australian and I can see that LBJ was easily the worst POTUS of all – with second place to going to Woodrow Wilson (entry in WWI/presiding over establishment of Federal Reserve/condoning the Versailles Treaty that unfairly punished Germany for a war that the Anglo Zionist empire started and thus sowing the seeds for WWII).

    Third place, in the list of Worst U.S Presidents, would undoubtedly go to FDR.

    • Thanks: ThreeCranes
    • Replies: @TrueIrish
  36. @Thomasina

    I appreciate what you said Thomasina.

    The Zio trolls do indeed start frothing at the mouth and come out of the woodwork to smear me in an attempt to deflect the focus away from the actual Talmudic culprits of these crimes.

    This is not a fair fight. There are hundreds of them that have coalesced against a solitary me and the outcome is lopsided.
    In other words, with hundreds of them against just me, I have EASILY BEEN ABLE TO SWAT ALL OF THEM like the pesky mosquitoes that they are.

    So in future, to make the fight fairer and less lopsided, I suggest they recruit another THOUSAND sayanim to take me on.
    They’ll still get ground down into talcum powder, but at least the equation will be slightly more balanced and they won’t get their collective arses handed to me on a platter every time.

    Lastly Thomasina, in relation to the ‘right over the target’ comment of yours, I’ve been reading your comments in UR over many months, and noticed that you’re bang on target yourself more often than not.

    Keep up the good work and stay well my friend.

    • Replies: @Thomasina
  37. Anonymous[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Say I am a hooknosed Zio usury banker. I go to CIA DO and say in my haughtiest Jew tones, “Do this thing!” DO sez, “No.” So I give my best smarmy manipulative Jewsmile and I say, “I’ll pay you!” And I rub my thumb and fingers together with an enticing leer of lascivious Jewy excitement.

    And CIA DO says, “No, here’s what we’ll do. You give me money and I don’t do the thing. Because I can kill you and get away with it. I can cut slits in your dick and get away with it. I can bury you alive a little and get away with it. I can put this big object up your asshole and get away with it, See? Oh! Thank you for that nice Jew money! Now give me more. What? Oh you want me to dig you up? No, not yet.”

    You bring up an interesting and non-obvious point out of games theory that answers many questions about US Federal Government behavior.

    There is a game everybody knows, “paper, rock, scissors”. It has no stable strategy, and a game of paper, rock, scissors that involves players betting until they run out of money will end with the random choice (from a “Uniform distribution”) of contestant (unless somebody changes the game by, say, pulling a knife).

    I’ve been thinking (as many others do) that the US Government is governed in fact as it is in theory — 3 branches, etc, staffed by elected and appointed officials. The elected officials are determined by the political parties. These parties are run by machine politicians, who think of government as a way to increase their incomes, and whose only interest in government is staying in office to increase their net worth. The politicians, in such a scheme, say and do anything that will keep the majority of voters who elected them (which is why BLM favoring Representatives cannot be given enough money to support the KKK, but Republican Representatives can be given enough money to retain “inclusion” and “diversity”.).
    Because the politicians can be and are influenced by money (in the form of “clean graft” that violates no legal code), they are not as independent as they seem to be. They go where the money is, subject to constraints from the coalition that elected them (as in the “KKK” constraint above).
    The above abstract system at least could be stable, and lead to some predictable result.

    OK, so far so good, but it is starting to look like the above is wrong, and the quote above is part of the reason.

    Way back, during the Progressive Era when large corporations really did dominate the US [1] and Anglo-Saxons really did dominate the large corporations, Congress invented the “Federal Agency” as we now know it. The concept was simple: Congress doesn’t understand business, so set up a group of specialist civil servants to learn about business and pass “regulations” that “have the force of law”. The ICC was the first such Federal Agency [2].

    Well, everybody today is concerned about Artificial Intelligence (AI) taking over, and is familiar with the heuristic: “When your equipment becomes smarter than you are, you’re in serious trouble.” The Congress had delegated the power of law to a group just as smart (maybe smarter) than the machine politicians who ran Congress. Lowi [2] points out that the ICC model was very widely used, almost to the point of being considered a cure-all. It was extended far beyond corporate regulation (which was a dead issue after WW II) into agencies such as the IRS and the CIA and the Department of the Interior. The Agencies were given control over areas that could be used against the machine politicians that, in theory, ran the US Government. In effect, Congress had violated the above heuristic and had “made something they couldn’t un-make”, so there wasn’t even a plug for Congress to pull.

    [MORE]

    In addition to that, the machine politicians continued the “New Deal” strategy of relying on an urban voting base, even after (in the 1970s [3]) said base was bankrupt and economically obsolete thanks to containerization. The politicians regarded the bankruptcy as an opportunity to make urban voting blocks dependent on government income, which came from US ability to borrow from subjects of its suzerainty.

    So now we end up with a US that is, ultimately, dependent on income from its suzerainty. We also have Federal Government by what amounts to contending Agencies by occasional bribes from special interest groups in areas the Agencies don’t dominate and hostile foreign countries (the Hunter Biden scandals), and a “representative government” that is buying its support from impoverished (and violent and criminal) urban voters using borrowed money from a suzerainty that the US lacks the force to continue and under threat (as with the CIA example above) from its own Agencies [4].

    The above game is not stable, it doesn’t even have Nash stability.

    Now add to that the obvious incapacity of the machine politicians: they are either senile, thugs, racial fanatics, or borderline insane. President Biden is an obvious puppet, so obvious that he’s being removed after only about 2 years. Nobody seems to know exactly who pulls Biden’s strings (Yes, I know, his staff does, but who pulls their strings?), and maybe that’s because the string puller changes with time depending on the chaotic game described above.

    Looking back, one well documented analogy is the Harem Sultanates Ottoman Empire after Suleiman the Great [5]. Not mentioned in [5] is that Suleiman had ended the custom of killing all but one of the previous Sultan’s sons at the cost of raising all the Sultan’s sons in effective isolation, so that the Sultan had very little or no real world experience. As you might imagine, the inexperienced Sultan became strongly influenced by his harem.
    So ending a cruel custom gave the Turks a government by people literally isolated from the world and with strong internal politics. Which is what the US has now.

    Other analogies would be declining Chinese empires. The Empire would become mired in its own palace politics, then the barbarians would invade, or the Yellow River would change its course yet again, or there would be a drought, and the reserves needed to cope with these disasters would turn out to have been stolen and irreplaceable in time available. Again, government by people literally isolated from the world and with strong internal politics [6].

    The “contending powers” theory above would explain the “this marvel of an elephant” [7] nature of the comments here. Each poster sees one aspect of the very big reality.
    *******************************************************************

    1] https://www.britannica.com/summary/The-Progressive-Era-Key-Facts
    2] Lowi, The End of Liberalism: The Second Republic of the United States, 2009-09-03.
    3] https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/mac.asp
    4] Apparently not from DoD, however. DoD apparently still believes in control by the civil authority. How long that will continue, give the current emphasis on the strongly interventionist program of fighting “Whiteness”, is an open question.
    5] https://www.grunge.com/337783/what-life-was-like-as-a-member-of-the-sultans-harem-in-the-ottoman-empire/ See section “A SUCCESSION OF WOMEN ONCE WIELDED EXTRAORDINARY POWER FROM THE HAREM”
    6] I’ve read one account of an Emperor who realized how dreamlike his court had become, and in apparent protest simply refused to do anything at all. Turned out that the Imperial bureaucracy was deadlocked on some matters, and Imperial decisions (even random decisions) were needed to take any action at all, so the protesting Emperor was as destructive as any of the weak or insane Emperors.
    7] https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/nataliemerchant/theblindmenandtheelephant.html

  38. shahnameh says:

    Krulak Mendenhall Sept 1963, FARA for Israel, both Joe Jr and JFK Studied under Howard Lasky @ LSE(interesting about John Dulles and American Malvern)- perhaps DEAD Barry and Honey Sherman Understood:)

  39. Shamu says:
    @Kevin Barrett

    I agree.

    And it was perfect for the Deep State because JFK was Irish, the ultimate sub-human inferior Boogeyman of the Pope to terrify the Anglo-Protestant underlings (around the globe) into utter submission to the desires of the WASP Deep State.

    • Troll: Hibernian
    • Replies: @P. Cleburne
  40. anon[152] • Disclaimer says:

    They say history repeats. If the US is the new Rome, then we can say that Kennedys killing led to a century of decline, as when Aureilias failed to appoint a proper leader. Maybe by the 2060’s or so, a powerful leader will emerge that makes our dissolution permanent. Where will the new capitol be? Dallas? Denver? DC will be abandoned and left to tourists and beggars. Here once stood a federal republic, murdered by corruption. Who will be the new Odovacer, perhaps a Chinese general? In a thousand years or so, people will ask, “What happened to the United States?” Historians will ponder, they were wealthy and powerful, how did they disintegrate so easily? Perhaps, on a national level, endemic corruption, and on a social level, the people stopped giving a fuck. I wonder where the light of freedom will be born again in the future, only to be destroyed again by avarice and stupidity.

  41. P.T. says:

    For those interested in communist Lee Harvey Oswald’s motivation for assassinating President Kennedy, Google “Operation Mongoose”: Kennedy’s terrorist campaign against Cuba. Oswald had plenty of motivation to assassinate Kennedy. Kennedy himself had been involved in assassination attempts against foreign leaders. As Malcolm X said regarding the Kennedy assassination, “The chickens came home to roost.”
    lll

    • Replies: @Shitposter_in Chief
  42. P.T. says:

    The conspiracy theorists about the President Kennedy assassination should try to get together on a single theory. The theories are all over the lot.
    lll

  43. @Emil Nikola Richard

    Look at this filthy jew, thinking COINTELPRO tactics will work on us. “Oy vey goyim, it’s impossible to find the truth therefore don’t bother looking! Just move on!” Pathetic.

  44. @Shamu

    Yeah…the “WASP deep state”…right….

    No such thing.

    • Replies: @Shamu
  45. @Thomasina

    “‘Duping delight’ is when someone cannot contain their glee that they are deceiving someone, and the smirk of ‘duping delight’ is this glee leaking out despite their best intentions to keep it concealed.”

    Nobody ever smirks unless they think or know that they’re getting away with something that they know is wrong.

  46. @P.T.

    I always took LHO to be a glowie and when he went to live in the USSR it was on a mission. He was allegedly friends with Barry Seal in the civil air patrol (which is where Barry was recruited)

  47. Slav says:

    I don’t understand this worship of Kennedy’s. They were no saints. There is an evidence they murdered Marilyn Monroe and probably many others.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  48. Skeptic51 says:

    For added facts and fuel to this fire, watch the 2020 documentary episode 4: Sacrificing Liberty June 8, 1967 The Day the World Was Six Minutes from WW3

  49. Trinity says:

    Lest we forget that JFK FORCED Southern Whites to attend school with Blacks. Of course the anti-German, FAKE soldier, and Jew loving war criminal Eisenhower beat JFK to the punch. IMO had JFK lived little would have changed. The Kennedy’s probably had Marylin Monroe killed, then we have white traitor trash Teddy going along with the (((Immigration Reform Act))) and Chappaquiddick. No tears from the cheap seats from me on JFK or his 2 brothers or son for that matter. JFK was a skirt chaser, just like the hideous Jew lover LBJ. Haha, must be something about people identified by their initials and trash. FDR, JFK,RFK, JFK Jr., MLK.

    Sorry, but JFK was not a virile and handsome man that he is always portrayed to be. A sickly man of average looks, reminds me when they tried to convince America that Michelle Obama was beautiful. LBJ? Could be the ugliest man ever elected POTUS, even uglier inside.

    Cue: Abraham, Martin and John by Dion

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  50. Miro23 says:

    But guess what: LBJ did not invade Cuba either. He didn’t give the CIA and Pentagon hawks the retaliatory invasion of Cuba that their plan was supposed to force upon him. He didn’t even try.

    However he was quick to move on something else:

    In the spring of 1963, Kennedy demanded full inspections by the US of the Dimona reactor, and threatened to place American aid for Israel in limbo if no agreement was reached. And at the time of his assassination, negotiations were in process for biannual inspections.

    Oliver Stone on Kennedy/ Johnson:

    He (Kennedy) took on Israel. He took on Ben-Gurion in Israel, because they were building a bomb that they’d stolen from us. And he really wanted to put a stop to that, but he, unfortunately died before, and Johnson carried through, knew about it and let it go, till Israel had the bomb by 1968. And even then, in 68, Johnson shut the Pentagon up. He said: “We are not going to announce this. The American people won’t know that Israel has the bomb.”

    Also-

    As Roger Mattson notes in his book on the subject, when the CIA alerted the new president that it appeared that Israel had now developed the atomic bomb, Johnson barely reacted. (Mattson, p. 97) There was no official investigation launched. In fact, Johnson told the CIA not to alert either State or Defense about the discovery.

    For those two acts, Johnson qualifies as a traitor to the country he had been sworn to serve. If Johnson was working for someone, it was not for the “Eastern Establishment,” of which he had never been part; it was for Israel. Johnson was the initiator of a pro-Israel policy that Truman, Eisenhower, the Dulles brothers or the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Kennedy would never have imagined in their worst nightmare.

    Johnson didn’t pull the trigger but he was right there with the Israelis who set it up.

  51. Trinity says:

    Stolen Elections for sure
    1948 Dewey over Truman
    1960 Kennedy over Nixon
    2000 Bush Jr. over Gore
    2020 Biden over Trump

    Probably much more but these stand out.

    • Replies: @Thim
    , @Hibernian
  52. HT says:

    One can only imagine how great this country could have been if the freed slaves had been returned to Africa, we had opposed the UN’s creation of Israel, and we had maintained a predominantly White country. You have to be amazed what we accomplished after making so many major mistakes. What a wasted opportunity and its all down hill from here.

    • Agree: Trinity
    • Replies: @Trinity
  53. @Durruti

    “ Individuals hesitate to identify the Assassins, and the Engineers of the Coup D’état of November 22, 1963,“

    Notice the parallels with 9/11 where despite all the strong circumstantial evidence that the Israeli Mossad was involved, all the MSM chose to ignore the elephant in the room, while the lone nut theory that applied to Oswald was simply reinstated by pinning the whole drama on Usama Bin Laden.

    As long as no one is willing to stick his neck out and call a spade a spade, the truth will be an orphan subject to all kind of abuse with near total immunity.

    We were told at school and university history lessons that JFK’s assassination made for a minor change in the history of the U.S. The assassination or replacement of a U.S. President after JFK, Nixon excepted, does prove the theory that an American POTUS is hardly in charge of much more than acting as a cloak for the policies of the deep state. The reality is not even close to that theory, for an American president has enormous constitutional powers to shape events, internally and externally, should he chose to exercise these powers. JFK’s assassination sent an incontrovertible message from the finance cabal to any would be American president that his constitutional authority notwithstanding, the final word is not his.

    JFK said that “it is OK to dream”. And I will allow myself to speculate (dream) about what the world would have been had his vision prevailed by having acted as a two terms president:

    We would be living in a world of multipolarity where global decisions are decided by many leaders on a consensual basis.
    Worldwide defense spending would be a fraction of what it is today.
    Mega projects for the betterment of mankind in the fields of transportation, agriculture and science and technology would come true through international cooperation rather than the current system of misanthropic imperial policies that cater to the select few.
    Russia would be an ally rather than an enemy of the U.S.
    Peace and prosperity would be way beyond whatever the world has experienced in the past six decades.
    Israelis and Arabs could be living in peace.

    If anyone can add to the list, I would be much obliged.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  54. Trinity says:
    @HT

    And kicked out the Jews for 110.

  55. @Fluesterwitz

    JFK was killed on order of Zio-controlled Federal Reserve.

    He had the gall to have the US treasury print money without getting the Fed involved. Then, bang bang.

    http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/how-the-ashkenazi-jews-conquered-the-west/

  56. What is very clear is that the assassination of JFK and the subsequent assassination of his brother RK was the beginning of the decline of the nation.
    WHY ?

  57. Anonymous[184] • Disclaimer says:

    Truth Vigilante, your first argument boiled down to emphatic use of the word “master.” Your new argument, in 32, is other catchphrases, except in capitals for extra-convincingness. NO ONE. LOYALTY. Maybe if you bold them, that will prove it!

    As the master Aristotle taught us in his Rhetoric, saying it over and over doesn’t make it more convincing.

    You assert an unsupported premise of Jewy superpowers with an unspecified mechanism for direction and control. I rebut from the premise of institutional CIA impunity shown by the agency’s get-out-of-jail-free cards in law, judicial precedent, regulation, and sub rosa MOUs: inter alia The National Security Act, the Central Intelligence Agency Act, The Intelligence Identities Protection Act, the operational files exemption, the political questions doctrine, the state secrets privilege, the utmost deference doctrine, the deference upon deference doctrine, FASAB Standard 56, NSC 10/2, the National Security Directive of December 19, 1947, the Rogers-Huston memo et seq.

    So Truth Vigilante, you fail to comprehend the world you live in, so your criminal state keeps fucking your tender asshole. And you rage at the all-powerful Jews of Lehman Brothers, who in the Greatest Financial Crime in History, crushed and bankrupted puny CIA proprietary AIG… oh wait.

    If CIA needs Jew money they just take it.

    Anonymous in 37 has a less simpleminded response than yours. He actually grapples with the existing assemblage as a self-organizing system – and not with sinister cartoon sheenies. His approach shows that you live in a totalitarian state. The way to prey on helpless lumpenproles like yourself, if you’re a Jew, or a goy, is to serve the totalitarian state.

  58. folkvangr says:
    @JWalters

    You are welcome. Although there was large amounts of mud thrown in Kennedy’s direction, from what I learned while digging through that mud, he might have been one of those shrewd men who anticipated America’s national suicide way before Antony Sutton, who claimed that the conflicts of the Cold War were not fought to hold back communism but were designed in order to generate multibillion-dollar armaments contracts and monopoly acquisition of wealth and power. In this big picture Talmudic schemers could have been only an effective detractor from the true power players involved in the con game of dispossession of the american workers.

    • Replies: @JWalters
  59. Durruti says:
    @Slav

    I don’t understand this worship of Kennedy’s. They were no saints. There is an evidence they murdered Marilyn Monroe and probably many others.

    Why don’t you present us with some of that “an evidence.”

  60. Thim says:

    Kennedy was never a legitimate President. The election of 1960 was stolen.

    • Replies: @nokangaroos
    , @rabbit redux
  61. Thim says:
    @Trinity

    Trinity, comment 51, you forgot 1864, when it was stolen for Lincoln over McClellan, when the army in the field somehow voted near 100% for Lincoln, when most of them hated Lincoln, and McClellan was almost a God in the eyes of the troops (he cared for the lives of his men).

    1864 was the most important steal. That was the day democracy ended in America.

    • Thanks: Trinity
  62. Durruti says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Nice comment. But I have one correction.

    You offer:

    If anyone can add to the list, I would be much obliged.

    You end your list with:

    Israelis and Arabs could be living in peace.

    1. Palestinians must have their Land and Wealth returned to them.

    2. Most Jews must return to the lands they came from, Europe, and more recently, America.

    3. Zionists who are guilty of terrorism-and starting wars-9-11, the Liberty, assassinations, financial theft, political bribery, other murders, & individual thefts, must be arrested.

    4. Possibly, the Palestinians might agree to leasing The Gaza area to Jews who are leaving Palestine, but do not wish to return to their lands of origin. The Gaza could hold as many as 4 million.

    Gaza could be their (the Zionist’s) ‘Israel,’ their Aardvark, their Kitchen Table, or whatever else they wish to name it. This #4 is only a suggestion – The Palestinians must not be forced to agree to this idea.

    5. For “peace” to reign, the leading Zionist Oligarchs (along with their gauleiter-servants), must be arrested and put on trial, and forced to answer for their crimes.

    Globally, Peace with Justice, Liberty, Prosperity, and Republican forms of Government, is possible, but very difficult to obtain.

    • Thanks: Joe Levantine
    • Replies: @Joe Levantine
  63. Durruti says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    A picture is worth a thousand words.

  64. @Trinity

    No tears from the cheap seats from me on JFK or his 2 brothers or son for that matter.

    JFK was not a virile and handsome man that he is always portrayed to be. A sickly man of average looks

    Well then, since there were no tears from you when JFK and brother Bobby died, I’m guessing you’re the type that became emotionally distraught when you heard Sheldon Adelson had died, or David Ben Gurion years before that.

    Only someone who is not well read and was not aware of the greater good that JFK delivered on the foreign policy front during his 34 months in office (and what he surely would’ve delivered had he lived and served out two full terms), would make such remarks as yours.

    I suggest you watch this short colour film about JFK’s visit to Ireland in the summer of 1963 :

    JFK’s ‘beauty’ transcended the skin deep, superficial nature of attractiveness.

    He exuded genuine warmth for his fellow man, and the public reciprocated in spades.
    He was like no other President America ever had – he was beautiful on the inside.

    For those of you not inclined to watch the whole 8 mins of the video above, at least watch the speech of JFK in the last minute and a half – you won’t be disappointed.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @Hibernian
  65. IronForge says:

    Anyone hear/know more about JFK’s Plan to:

    A) Reign in FEDRSV by Issuing Silver Certificates – with the intent of preventing the FEDRSV of loaning U$D to the GOVT_USA with interest like they still do?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110

    https://foundationfortruthinlaw.org/jfk-vs-fed.html

    Looks to me that FEDRSV Bankers had vested interests in seeing JFK Murdered – similar to what Lincoln was doing nearly a Century Prior…

  66. Trinity says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Sheldon who? (((Benjamin?))) haha. I remember the demonic Jew, Adelson, dying. Hmmm, more sympathetic when seeing a dead possum in the road. Don’t give two shits about white trash like the Kennedys or demonic Jews. I had a friend about my age, I guess he was born around 1962-1964, he lived in Far Rockaway, Queens, New York, good people. Anyhow he was of Irish ancestry, and was named “John Fitzgerald” ……. Reminds me of all the goobers in Georgia who voted for Carter just because he was from Georgia. I am not going to like someone just because they are a certain ancestry or because they are from a certain state. White traitor trash comes in all shapes, states, sizes, ethnicities, and religious faiths. Kennedy went along with the Jew program of negro worship as did the Georgia peanut farmer.

  67. HT says:

    The JFK generation of Yankee politicians including JFK were determined to change the country, which they actually thought was for the better, by civil rights laws and the like. They thought blacks would seamlessly integrate and we would all live happily ever after. JFK was certainly going to pursue the same laws in that regard that LBJ eventually passed. They did not understand what southerners understood about blacks and nothing was going to change their more “educated and refined” mind. Well they got their way and look where we are.

    • Thanks: Trinity
    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  68. @RJ Macready

    After watching the documentary American Moon see if you still believe.



    Video Link

    • Thanks: Durruti
  69. Agent76 says:

    November 22, 2022 “JFK: Destiny Betrayed” Leaves No Doubt That JFK Was Assassinated as Part of CIA Coup

    New Four-Part Documentary: Oliver Stone film shows that JFK was trying to reorient U.S. foreign policy in more peaceful direction prior to his murder and that the Warren Commission was a fraud. It illuminates JFK’s opposition to the imperialist machinations of American oligarchs, who enlisted U.S. intelligence and the Mafia to orchestrate his assassination and then cover it up for decades.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/new-four-part-documentary-jfk-destiny-betrayed-leaves-no-doubt-jfk-was-assassinated-part-cia-coup/5787924

  70. Phoenix says:
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Why do you suppose all those witnesses got whacked?

    Are there any recommended books or thorough articles summarizing the JFK assassination witnesses and insiders who were murdered?

    Were the same networks involved with the silencing of Clinton witnesses and Obama gay lifestyle witnesses?

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Mark Gobell
  71. Recall that the wife of OSS founder “Wild Bill” Donovan, when asked what the letters “CIA” represented, replied “Catholics In Action.”

    The “World Jewish Congress” recently (and for the first time in 2000 years) met in the Vatican with Roman Church authorities to “strengthen bonds” between the “judaism” and the Roman Church.

    Some might argue the Roman Church was long ago been coopted at the leadership (including Jesuit “military order”) levels, so as to serve Zionist objectives from a postion as “controlled opposition” to “judaism.”

    Allen Dulles nephew, Avery Dulles, was a Jesuit priest and “cardinal” of the Roman Church.

    The author of a tweet linked below suggests CIA was/is controlled by “Vatican Jews,” not inconsistent with CIA complicity in accomplishing Ben Gurion/ Mossad’s killing JFK to aid Israel’s defense via obtaining nuclear weapons.

    Note also how that several of the “plumbers” caught in Watergate (blamed on Nixon), including E. Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis, were implicated in Mark Lane’s “Plausible Denial” text as in Dallas, assassins of JFK.

    In the Watergate operation, was CIA trying to simultaneously purge/ expose some of those to blame for JFK’s murder and, by linking them to Nixon, imply Nixon complicity in JFK’s murder (out of revenge/ hatred since 1960 election defeat)?

    Yet Nixon complained that all key parts of government were controlled by “jews,” and an essential task was to reclaim control – certainly lost under LBJ’s influence, if not long before, dating back to Woodrow Wilson’s era, if not that of Lincoln.

    “Rome’s Responsibility for the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln, With an Appendix Containing Conversations Between Abraham Lincoln and Charles Chiniquy” https://a.co/d/636Da2y

    • Replies: @CelestiaQuesta
  72. @Durruti

    When I wrote that Israelis and Arabs would be living in peace, I meant that peace would have been shoved down the throat of the Zionists. I have no illusions about the Zionist’s intransigence and bloodthirstiness, but world peace means less maneuverability for them.

    And about republican forms of governance, I find it relevant to caution against the current form of republican ‘representative‘ democracy which is nothing but another sham that empowers the oligarchic class who own the people’s representatives, lock stock and barrel. For peace and prosperity, nothing less than direct democracy should be the standard especially when it comes to taxation or what should be more properly called “ war against the people, for if it is the people’s money, then the same people should decide how much of their money they are willing to part with, or wars against fabricated enemies like what is happening currently with Russia.

    Thank you for this most conscientious description of the Zionist catastrophe.

    • Replies: @Durruti
  73. Either Johnson was a Closeted Zionist or they had the goods needed to keep him in line. Look no further than the blatant attack by Israel on the USS Liberty June 1967, during the Six-Day War, as Johnson turned a blind eye, not to mention allowing Zionists to develop nukes from stolen US secrets.

    That’s the sixth month of the sixties during the six day war. (((666))).

  74. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:

    To prove that Jews and not CIA killed JFK, our junior spy cadets and wannabes here shout, BANKS!!1! Lots of handwaving about the finance cabal, the Rothschilds, the Fed, &c., &c. – more or less Jewy and influential.

    Banks are certainly unduly powerful in the Western bloc, and fractional reserve banking is conducive to debt peonage, an effective form of social control. That of course is why WASP oligarchs like J.P. Morgan and Harriman founded banks, and why the Bush family ran the Brown Brothers Harriman bank, before taking charge of CIA and ruling the USA directly.

    When push comes to shove, having CIA’s impunity is way better than having a bank. When systematic fraud collapsed the financial system in the Greatest Financial Crime in History, banks survived by laundering shitloads of drug money. Drug money is of course CIA money, from CIA’s favored cartels, from Afganistan, or from banana republics.

    CIA has lots of other money, money they get hoarding and trading axis plunder from WWII (ask CIA agent Alan Quasha!); gun-running; child trafficking; theft from DoD; fraud and embezzlement from federal agencies such as HUD; even insider trading on foreknowledge of their own covert crime (CIA grandee A.B. Krongard’s big punt at Alex Brown.) When CIA wants more money, they can always set up a fake bank, like BCCI or Nugan Hand or FTX. Or they can set up fake charities like the Clinton Foundation. You can make money lots of ways when you have impunity!

    So if the Jews want to be big shots they got to suck CIA dick like everybody else. Cause CIA killed JFK for insubordination and the whole world knows it except for abject US dupes.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  75. The Kennedys were degenerate race traitor criminal scum who destroyed the USA. They were not anti-jew whatsoever. The 1965 Immigration Act was the semitic death blow to America, rammed through Congress by Ted and supported by Bobby. Read JFK’s own book, “Nation of Immigrants”, to find his opinion.

    He was the single goy most responsible for promoting the suicidal lie that America is destined by god to be a color-blind multicultural utopia. JFK increased military aid to Israel. His cabinet had the most jews in history at that time. The ADL gave him its highest award on national television. JFK gave many speeches whining about persecution of jews in the USSR and South America. In front of the United Nations in 1947 he vehemently argued for the creation of Israel.

    Claiming JFK was some staunch defender of his people is an evil disgusting lie. Guyenot is the only respectable writer on this site. This is the first I’ve seen him strike a false note.

    • Thanks: Trinity
  76. In 1997, DiEugenio published a powerful two-part book-length article, “the Posthumous Assassination of JFK” (1997). It is still essential reading for anyone interested in the controversies surrounding Kennedy’s presidency and assassination, or puzzled by the unending stream of bizarre Kennedy lore.

    I’ve decided to acquire one of DiEugenio’s books as the start of building a larger image of JFK.

    Given his trashing of The Dark Side of Camelot, I’m going to read it with a skeptical eye. Apparently Seymour Hersh had some amazing errors in his book, but I’m inclined to the view that they were “planted” on him by people he had reason to trust. This certainly happened when James Hatfield wrote his biography of George “codpiece commnder” Bush – Fortunate Son. Details of Bush’s cocaine conviction were handed to him on a platter so as to totally neutralize the issue when it was revealed Hatfield was an ex-con.

    JFK was a silly playboy put into the White House by his extremely wealthy daddy. His health was bad, his morality was Trump-Level, and his intellectual capacity was around the range of Bush and Trump.

    Despite the contrary impression he made during his televised debates with Nixon in 1960, Kennedy was never a Cold Warrior.

    My future reading is going to be done with an open mind, but from what I know now this is pure BS. Kennedy quickly learned that his 1960 claims of an enormous “Missile Gap” were not true, but he still engineered the creation of thousands of LGM-30 Minuteman missiles. Kennedy was OK with Eisenhower’s invasion of Cuba – until it faltered.

    I’ve given Kennedy credit for not starting WW3 with the Cuban Missile Crisis, but I’m no longer sure this is justified.

    Before “The Missiles of October”: Did Kennedy Plan a Military Strike against Cuba?
    Diplomatic History, Volume 14, Issue 2, April 1990, Pages 163–198, https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1467-7709.1990.tb00083.x

    Usually ignored in this rundown of events are the measures that were taken by the U.S. military to prepare for possible military action against Cuba and the personal interest taken by President Kennedy in those plans. The CINCLANT Report recounts that in the weeks preceding the discovery of the missiles the United States had prepared two principal military options: air strike or invasion, or the first followed by the second. Steps were also taken to ready a blockade. Although the documents refer to “contingency” measures or “proposed” actions, they also seem to make clear that the Kennedy administration wanted the option of hitting Castro with military force and wanted it ready by late October.27 The secret preparations then merged with and facilitated overt military pressure on Cuba once the crisis became public on 22 October.

    The military preparations that accelerated in September and early October 1962 did not materialize from a vacuum but instead represented the culmination of a year-long process. During that period the administration had paid increasing attention to developing military plans for dealing with Cuba that were coordinated with the highly secret (to Americans, at least) Mongoose program initiated by President Kennedy in late 1961. A review of Pentagon planning measures undertaken in conjunction with Mongoose makes it clear that for a small circle of high civilian and military officials, the idea that the United States might deliberately provoke events in Cuba that could serve as a pretext for U.S. intervention represented a possible course of action, frequently invoked, rather than an unthinkable libel that had emerged from the paranoid fantasies of Havana and Moscow.

    Remember, this was after the first failed invasion. The “blockade” option had already been under discussion – it wasn’t something the “peace-loving” Kennedy would have had to create. And from where I sit it sure looks as if the peacenik Kennedy provoked the Cuban Missile Crisis.

    Maybe the Playboy President had changed – I’m open to that possibility. It doesn’t seem to be entirely likely, but the fact remains the CIA and other plotters now wanted JFK gone. Were some of those ‘others’ agents of the Apartheid state? Kennedy was a Catholic, and in the absence of knowing any differently I’m open to the notion he wasn’t friendly to the Christ Killers. Perhaps somebody here knows if Kennedy had any important Jewish officials in his Administration – that would say something or other about his attitudes.

  77. @Karl Golovin

    It’s despicable how all those exposing Jewish power are either assassinated, imprisoned, impoverished or censored.
    Jews weren’t thrown out of over one hundred countries for being kind, reliable or honest. They are genetically subhuman parasites that must be dealt with sooner or later, or we risk extinction by default.

  78. Wrong, wrong, wrong : to state the matter quick, JFK was Dr. Henry Kissinger’s first dutiful pupil, and to choose him as a permanent resident in the White House. When JFK reassured his audience saying he would hire the best and brightest, he meant “goys need no longer apply”. Even though the NASA is renowned for the paper-clipped Nazis that officially founded and presided it, that agency, soon thereafter, hired nearly only Hollywood cinema Jews at its top decision jobs. You know what I am getting at : JFK knew perfectly well what was to be done and given when he promised the moon to his audience. With Kissinger being the chief counsellor as for external and multi-cultural affairs in general, and many other less known ones known for their love of false flags, it comes to no surprise that this administration that was not the best loved in Israel rather followed HK’s lack of enthusiasm for Israel proper as the future capital country of the global order to come : HK, like so many more traditional Zionists, like the Conservative rabbis had traditionally interpreted the Torah, dreamt of no other promised land to conquer and subdue than the whole planet, to which cause over-concentration on Biblical countries would be an impediment rather than a pedestal : that is how the destruction of Jerusalem by manifest super-human intervention rapidly came to be interpreted by Jews. JFK was the first big American president to come into power thanks to big entertainment media alone, namely the 3 big TV channels plus Hollywood, as a good actor first and foremost, not for any competence in resolving any other kind of problem that his own image, that was maybe in itself the most disastrous turning point in American political history. White Americans tend to be nostalgic about JFK for exactly the same reasons darker Americans tend to enthuse about MLK : both very sloppy characters, after having been sponsored and media-tailored by the very same people, were assassinated by the same people for the same reason, namely to have them reborn as the perfect heroes they never were. Both had the same kind of predatory sexual life. From 1960 on, it was too late : big media alone were running the show from then on, and one big urgent priority was to stage a good moon trip for the greater public to lose all grip on reality and exchange it for a virtual one that would from then on suffice to content him.

  79. @HT

    Give blacks a state built and designed by whites and within twenty years it will resemble a third world shithole. See Detroit, Camden NJ, and dozens of other cities across the US.

    • Replies: @Mark Gobell
  80. @Truth Vigilante

    You rock, TV. Your comments are among the best.

    To go slightly off-topic: I’ve not yet read the Unz’s latest screed about vax deaths, and I think I’ll only read the first and last paragraphs when I do get around to it.

    But, I look forward to reading your (and others’) comments there, becuase the Unz is despicable on that particular subject.

    You stay well, too.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  81. @Anonymous

    Fat hasbara troll. Remain in Tel Aviv (oh sorry: I meant Jerusafuckinglem) and keep eating refried mashed-up chickpeas, you idiot.

  82. Durruti says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Thankyou (and the other fine commentators), for your input on this important and fine article by Laurent Guyénot.

    JFK and America’s Destiny Betrayed

    Half a century ago I and friends helped Mark Lane move into his Fifth Avenue office. We received a Manuscript of his pioneer critique of the Warren Commission Report, “Rush to Judgement” as a reward.

    Lane, a veteran, attorney, and later NY State Assemblyman was the first to write a comprehensive challenge to the Government’s coverup, which was – The Warren Commission Report,” Lane’s analysis covered the Assassination of our President. Lane’s book was named “Rush to Judgement” This early challenge to the assassins, and their government, concentrated on a point by point exposé and challenge to the Government’s lies in their 1000 page Report.

    https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=c51809020d71c670JmltdHM9MTY3NDQzMjAwMCZpZ3VpZD0xODg1NjAyMi1jMzYwLTYxOGItMDM1ZS03MjgwYzJkZTYwMTMmaW5zaWQ9NTIzNg&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=18856022-c360-618b-035e-7280c2de6013&psq=rush+to+judgement+mark+lane&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9lbi53aWtpcGVkaWEub3JnL3dpa2kvUnVzaF90b19KdWRnbWVudA&ntb=1

    His paperback sold 2 million copies and was on the NY Times Best Seller List for 17 weeks.

    For years, we asked Lane to name the assassins. He was reluctant to hurry. In the following years, he interviewed Marina Oswald (who insisted her husband was a supporter of Kennedy and never would have harmed him), New Orleans District Attorney, Jim Garrison, and many other important witnesses.

    Imagine: John F. Kennedy was our Last Constitutional President.

    We must discuss my view of the Republican foundation of Government, featuring a political culture of Electoral Democracy, with yours, of Direct Democracy. I have a feeling that our views are not far apart.

    Dr. Peter J. Antonsen – nom de guerre, Durruti

  83. Rambling ignorant nonsense. Circumstantial evidence at best that would not pass the smell test from any qualified trial Judge. Read the mammoth exhaustive book by the late great Prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi. He ruins all of you nut case conspiracy freaks….Hey Laurent is it true that Jim Morrison is selling beads on the corner of Haight/ Ashbury St in SF and is not really buried in a Paris Cemetery?

    • Troll: Theophrastus
  84. dimples says:

    “Investigators interested in George DeMohrenschildt cannot fail to learn that, before being found dead with a bullet in his head, he had complained that “the Jewish mafia” was out to get him.”

    It’s a trivial point in Mr Guyenot’s sweeping epic but DeMohrenschildt was killed by a shotgun. Even Wikipedia knows this.

    • Thanks: Laurent Guyénot
    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  85. Iris says:
    @Phoenix

    Are there any recommended books or thorough articles summarizing the JFK assassination witnesses and insiders who were murdered?

    The violent death or disappearance of witnesses of the JFK assassination was early on highlighted and investigated by author Penn Jones Jr:

    Here is an article by Penn Jones:

    “Disappearing Witnesses”
    Over 100 murders, suicides, mysterious deaths–the strange fate of those who saw Kennedy shot.

    http://www.maebrussell.com/Disappearing%20Witnesses/Disappearing%20Witnesses.html

    In the 1973 film “Executive Action”, based on Mark Lanes’ “Rush to Judgement”, it was revealed that an actuary engaged by the London Sunday Times calculated the odds of 18 known material witnesses dying within three years of the JFK assassination as 1 in 100,000 TRILLION.

    (In fact, there were at least 33 unnatural deaths over this three years, and almost 100 from 1963-1977. Therefore, the odds of a conspiracy would be even greater).

    However, the Times editor later refused to provide this calculation to the 1977 House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA), arguing that the methodology was flawed.

    As a consequence, JFK researcher Richard Charmin has been maintaining a database of witnesses’ unnatural deaths and re-calculating their odds, which in 2013 was assumed to be infinitesimal, so ZERO.
    https://www.opednews.com/populum/page.php?f=Executive-Action-JFK-Witn-by-Richard-Charnin-130416-98.html

    Here is the witness database will all witnesses’ names and calculation spreadsheet:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FmXudDf6pqisxq_mepIC6iuG47RkDskPDWzQ9L7Lykw/edit#gid=1

    • Replies: @Iris
  86. @Durruti

    Thanks again & again, Dr. Antonsen!

  87. Anonymous[171] • Disclaimer says:

    Theophrastus 82. If the facts I adduce make me a Jew, then presumably your reflex aversion to them makes you a CIA Monarch prostitot routinely face-fucked by a slavering Dersh on Craig Spence’s rubber sheets.

    Your reflex resort to ad hominem tells me you don’t like to think about your totalitarian state and its apex CIA. Why might it be that you’d rather admit to being ruled by slimy crooked Jews than CIA?

    • Replies: @Theophrastus
  88. Iris says:
    @Iris

    This bar graph, showing the deaths of witnesses of the JFK assassination, clearly highlights their suspicious pattern.

    They clearly occurred just before or in close proximity to key stages in the Congress investigations or were timed with the Warren Commission hearings and Garrison trial. The synchronicity is quite blatant.

  89. anastasia says:

    I always wondered how Zaprauder was able to hold his hands still, and continue filming after he saw a man’s head get blown off. And I always wondered why when the authorities (or someone else) was confiscating everyone’s photographs at the site of the grassy knoll, (some never to be returned), why they never took Zaprauder’s film while he was still there on the grassy knoll.

    I agree that Johnson knew about the false flag being planned by Israel when they bombed the USS Liberty. That can be inferred from what happened after they were “caught”, when rescue planes were sent out only to be turned back by the Johnson Administration. This kind of outrageous protection of Israel who are trying to kill citizens of your own country, would lead me to believe that the Israelis had the goods on Johnson’s role in the assassination. It would also explain his very different foreign policy position from all other Presidents on the issue of Israel to the extent of covering up and doing nothing about the nuclear bombs they were making, although I am not willing to say that his foreign policy toward Israelwas so very, very different than the others. The others were more cautious, but not necessarily less friendly.
    I had also wondered about Ruby’s comment, “he did it for the Jews”. How can anyone explain that one. Doesn’t make a lick of sense from what should have been his knowledge at the time, i.e. that Oswald did it. I wondered if Ruby was one of those American Jews who ran guns to Israel in the late forties. I never found anything on that, but I thought it was curious that he was running guns to Cuba to help Fidel’s guerillas in the late fifties. Why would he do that as a mob-connected person, a mob that was friendly to Batista? Did he do it for money? Was it because he was an expert on gun running, having had the experience before?

    • Replies: @Iris
    , @Wade
    , @Issar
  90. Trinity says:

    A great deal of the public knows the JFK assassination and the 911 (((official narrative))) is fiction. The question is what are Americans going to do about it. The answer? Unless (((occupied America))) regains its INDEPENDENCE, nothing will change. The JFK assassination will be 60 years ago in November, the attack on the USS Liberty was nearly 56 years ago and 911 will soon be 22 years ago. A great deal of people who were around during the time of JFK and the USS Liberty are dead, or very old. Even some of those who question the (((official narrative))) like paid $hills such as Tucker Carlson blame everyone but the Jew. No wonder the average American is confused. Tucker Carlson is worse than the gay guys at (((CNN.))) It’s the Jesuits, no it’s the CIA, how about the Italian mob or the Boy Scouts. Tucker cannot even say the word, Jew.

  91. Iris says:
    @anastasia

    The Unz Review graciously provides access to many essential reads for free, and you can find this fact mentioned in Michael Piper’s “Final Judgment”. Piper received an “explosive” document, apparently from an anonymous professional journalist, describing how Israel controlled Dallas:

    https://www.unz.com/book/michael_collins_piper__final-judgment/#p_6_1

    The document buries the tired old myth that a clique of anti-Semitic White Anglo-Saxon Protestant oil plutocrats ruled Dallas. Instead, the truth is quite the opposite. Not only did Dallas have an immensely powerful Jewish community, but, more importantly, the city (and Texas) had been a major center of fundraising and arms smuggling on behalf of the Zionist cause, going back to the 1940s. Even Jonathan Pollard, the American spy for Israel, said he was inspired to pro-Israel activism by stories he heard (while living in Texas) of gunrunning for the Israeli underground by Jews in Texas. In fact, the official published history of a major Zionist arms smuggling operation, the Sonneborn Institute, reports its agents smuggled aircraft parts out of Texas to Israel.

    This was happening when a then recently discharged Army Air Corps aircraft mechanic, Jack Ruby, was re-settling in Dallas in 1947, the year prior to Israel’s birth, when Sonneborn’s activities were at a zenith. Ruby bragged of having run arms to Israel and, in 1963, is now known to have part of an arms smuggling operation overseen by an Israeli intelligence officer. So the Israeli connection to Texas was a lot more intimate than many today ever realized.

    • Thanks: JR Foley
    • Replies: @Skeptikal
  92. @Phoenix

    Phoenix asks : “Are there any recommended books or thorough articles summarizing the JFK assassination witnesses and insiders who were murdered?”

    See Richard Charnin’s blog and excellent work on the deaths of JFK witnesses :

    Executive Action: JFK Witness Deaths and the London Times Actuary
    https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/executive-action-jfk-witness-deaths-and-the-london-times-actuary/

    MG

    • Thanks: JR Foley
  93. I would appreciate Dr. Guyenot addressing the claims of Mike Rothmiller concerning the alleged muder of Marilyn Monroe by RFK.

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  94. @Thim

    Elections are phony to begin with. They are all stolen one way or another.

  95. eah says:

    >A Review of DiEugenio’s “Foreign Policy Coup” Theory

    I’m not sure whether DiEugenio or someone else, perhaps even a group, should be credited with this ‘theory’ — Douglas Horne does a comprehensive review of this subject in the video below:

    JFK’s War with the National Security Establishment

    A number of related videos can be found here:

    The National-Security State and the Kennedy Assassination

    The national-security establishment’s assassination of President John F. Kennedy was one of the pivotal events in our lifetime, and it continues to have an adverse impact on American life today. This conference will be oriented toward people who are not well-versed in the assassination and who wish to gain a deeper understanding of it. The conference will present an easy-to-understand introduction to what happened and why.

    • Thanks: Laurent Guyénot
  96. @Dutch Boy

    That infamous date: 11-22-63 has long struck me as the terminus of the Boomer generation(1945-1963). Generations are never precisely a particular number of years…rather they are marked by specific major turning points in human history. As a member of the WarBabies micro-generation which could be dated from 9-2-39 to Hiroshima on 8-6-45) I will stand for that pair of bookends as the distinguishing delineation for my rather exclusive grouping.

    Thus, Gen Xers would commence with that infamous date in Dallas. Perhaps someone from that generation could pick an event, date for the termination of their set and the beginning data for Gen. Y.
    Their terminal date is obviously 9-11-01, that equally infamous day where the CIA and the Mossad cooperated to do their INSIDE JOB. Thus, Gen Z. (ultimate prior to…take your choice: 2-22-14 OR 2-24-21.

    So that’s my thesis. Generations are determined by world-shaking events, usually to be reckoned by specific dates.

  97. @UncommonGround

    With the full name of Walt Whitman Rostow, I never even realized that the man happened to be of the Talmudist-Agenda persuasion prior to reading this excellent article by Laurent Guyanot.

    Merci, Monsieur.

  98. @UncommonGround

    Heinrich Ki$$inger has long been both THE minion for the Rottenfeller Crime Clan AND a mutual Gauleiter of the U$$A for the Rottenchild Crime Clan. He can be described as a genocidal mass-murderer for his masters.

    It was also Herr Heinrich who arranged for Red China to officially join the gang when together with Chou En Lai; he set up the meeting between Mao and Nixon. That little confab resulted in a member of the SECURITY COUNCIL of the United Nations, the Republic of China’s Taiwan redoubt, losing that seat and to be replaced by the People’s Republic of China.

    Over time more arrangements, based on that public, yet with secret codicils, ultimately has resulted in the PRC today having the world’s largest economy…while it took over America’s industrial base…all arranged by those nice folks in City of London and in New York, New York…that pair of ruling Crime Clans,.

    • Replies: @antibeast
  99. JWalters says:
    @folkvangr

    In Douglas Reed’s big picture the Cold War conflicts were indeed set up to establish a steady stream of war profits. In addition, he argues that the bankers behind the Cold War had a Talmudist agenda of Jews ruling the world, as per ancient Jewish prophecy.

    According to Reed’s research the same bankers financed both the Bolshevik and Zionist movements. Both created major military conflicts, one in Europe and one in the Middle East. Both movements involved a large ethnic cleansing component to put Jews in charge. And the initial kibbutzes in Israel were somewhat communistic with religion added. Both Bolshevism and Zionism were Jewish supremacist movements, one for atheistic Jews and one for religious Jews. Both were aimed at subduing non-Jews.

    The coordination today of the arms industry and the media implies a coordinating center. Given the financial structure of imperialism analyzed by John Hobson, the coordinating center is a few top financiers, including the Rothschild bank. Notably, the Rothschild bank got much of its fortune through war profiteering.

    On the 100th anniversary of the Balfour Declaration, Jacob Rothschild said in a speech that his family financed the founding of Israel “for that sacred goal, the return of Israel to its ancestral home.” This is a key element of the millenialist agenda of the Jewish supremacists.

    That is, the Rothschilds financed the Zionist army that slaughtered village after village of innocent Palestinians, terrorizing the population into fleeing for their lives. Rothschild made no mention of the thousands of human sacrifices carried out for this “sacred” project of Israel.

    Initially the Zionists wanted the US to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians, but that was a step too far for even the politically and financially indebted President Truman. Instead he merely recognized Israel immediately. Later American presidents, however, have sent American troops to the Middle East to serve as proxies in Israel’s wars. The takeover of the UK and US, turning them into proxies of the Zionist financiers, is laid out in
    War Profiteers and Israel’s Bank
    https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html

    The Jewish millenialist beliefs include Jews ruling the world from Jerusalem. In my view, this goal of Jewish global hegemony is the true source of America’s alleged global hegemony goal. The goal of US global hegemony was declared in the Wolfowitz Doctrine, which I see as a Zionist document, imposed on its US proxy.

    The current conflict in Ukraine, which so many analysts today see as irrational, makes much more sense if we see it as a Zionist Empire attack on Russia, in pursuit of Zionist global hegemony, with America merely the dumb proxy.

    • Agree: Skeptikal
    • Replies: @folkvangr
  100. Hibernian says:
    @Trinity

    Carter/Ford was also questionable.

  101. Hibernian says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    The small town German Catholics of the Midwest saw through the Kennedys.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  102. I have to admit, I am not a big fan of Pres Kennedy. I am willing to grant that maybe he might have had a different approach to our success in Vietnam — maybe. but even Pres Johnson expressed his doubts openly. So that doesn’t say much. Pres Kennedy was a cold war warrior. He and Attorney General Kennedy were intensely anti-communist. Though when it came to domestic policy, I think the Attorney General shifted the most toward a less intrusive policy.

    Their youth certainly could have charted a different course, but we won’t know. Their passing invited more radical minds and that is unfortunate, but in my view, given the hope that they embodied along with a small host of other leaders about a new future, the loss of so many via acts of violence were clearly a shock to the system.

    I would hazard a guess that had their lives not been taken we would not be experiencing the kinds of radicalism and force exercised today.

    But I am not convinced that their responses to the current issues Europe would be different. Remember, the choice to blockade Cuba came from the WH. I have no doubt that Pres Kennedy say,

    “I am a Ukrainian” or some similar sentiment. The question which the article does not address is whether the Kennedy Admin today would have been opened to the former Soviet Union members joining NATO

    ———————

    Note: Pres and Ag Kennedy were not choir boys, they were no less acute political animals than their contemporaries — even if outsiders to the old boys network.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  103. Shamu says:
    @P. Cleburne

    Yep – never once been a Skull and Bondsman descended from New England Puritans who wielded terrifying power without ever holding elected or appointed office.

    You people really amaze me. It is hard to know which of you are that stupid as to believe that that only Jews are doing this and have such power, or if you all lie to play y0ur roles in keeping people off the scent. The fact is that if you fail to see the whole picture, your bing right about the part you can see does you no good.

    It is Anglo-Zionist Empire, and it has been that for centuries because of the original 17th century WASP leaders taking loans from Jews. From then on, Jews have been indispensable to WASP empire. And they always will be.

    • Replies: @P. Cleburne
  104. Skeptikal says:
    @Iris

    Re economic profile of Dallas,

    “Dallas’ key to growth came in 1873 with the construction of multiple rail lines through the city. As Dallas grew and technology developed, cotton became its boon and by 1900, Dallas was the largest inland cotton market in the world, becoming a leader in cotton gin machinery manufacturing. . . . By 1925, Texas churned out more than 1⁄3 of the nation’s cotton crop, with 31% of Texas cotton produced within a 100-mile (160 km) radius of Dallas.”

    It wouldn’t be surprising if Jewish merchants, bankers, and traders in the Dallas hub of the gigantic international cotton industry were Jewish. Generally Jews were very active as merchants, financiers, traders, etc. in the international textile, especially cotton, industry, especially the exchanges, where deals were made. The Dallas Cotton Exchange Building was built in 1926.

    I don’t have specific documentation on this, but I would expect Jewish interests to be very strongly represented in any international industry that rests on complicated credit relationships, futures trading, etc.

    As for Ruby, I have read that he was part of the Meyer Lansky mob. Lansky was heavily involved with both gambling and other business activities in Cuba and in supporting the Zionist gangs such as the Stern Gang and the Irgun, whose leaders later became leaders of the State of Israel.

    • Replies: @Laurent Guyénot
  105. folkvangr says:
    @JWalters

    Thanks, I agree with most of what you wrote, except that The goal of US global hegemony was declared in the Wolfowitz Doctrine. Wasn’t it unofficially adopted a lot earlier, let’s say when general Funston reported the murder of 640,000 Filipinos in the US war with the Philippines (1899-1902)?

    • Replies: @JWalters
  106. @Hibernian

    As a Minnesotan, I recall this bit of lore from the most Catholic, specifically Barvarian Germans, county in the state: “When the Bishop in St. Cloud sneezes, half of Stearns County comes down with double-pneumonia”.

    • Thanks: Hibernian
  107. @EliteCommInc.

    As usual, more bullshit. You happen to be an addict to mainscream sources of information and propaganda.

    Kennedy may have used a bit of campaign rhetoric to win election. However, he was by no means a Cold War warrior. He vetoed the Joint Chiefs scheme (under Talmudist and bomber happy Lyman Lemnitzer) called “Operation Northwoods”. It was a false-flag scheme calculated to kill a planeload of American college students in an airliner (sounds familiar?) to be blamed on Cuba and serve as a casus belli.

    He was an anti-colonialist. He also vetoed (effectually) George H.W. Bush’s (as a longtime CIA operative) mission for the Florida-based Cuban “refugees” to pull off the Bay of Pigs operation by refusing to allow the Agency to commandeer the Naval air-wing to provide air-support for the invasion.

    The big thing which brought down our last American president was his refusal to allow the Talmudist entity in Occupied Palestine to get nuclear weaponry. The Crypto Jew LBJ, had no problem with that after his boys assassinated the president.

  108. Anonymous[420] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Sorry, that post was a bit elliptical. Reading the footnotes would clarify most of it, but who reads footnotes?

    Basic idea:
    a) The Progressive’s use of “Agencies” that can, in effect, make law, resulted in a government of independent Agencies that, over a century later, hardly even bother to be civil to Congressional committees.
    2) Use of independent Agencies to solve problems that Congress can’t was routine until recently. H. Clinton’s Health bill essentially would have created an Agency and gave it a vague mission statement and the power to make laws pursuant to that statement. That is why H. Clinton said that Congress would have to “pass the Bill and then see what was in it”; she meant that the new Agency would take charge and follow its own interests.
    3) Obviously, Agencies can act on individual politicians. So can the IRS, and for that matter HEW (distribution of funds to favored areas influences re-election rates). Or, perhaps, the more muscular Agencies, (FBI, CIA, DOJ, etc.) can use direct action, as apparently happened to Nixon. The formal Federal command structure is not effective anymore, and hasn’t been for some time.
    4) The above has not led to a government by Agency. It has led to endless contention between Agencies and political coalitions (e.g. the Black coalition and the Jewish coalition).
    5) The situation is much like that of Medieval Europe, AD 1200. Many organizations exist, they have geographically overlapping jurisdictions over different aspects of human life, and these overlaps lead to unresolvable conflict. Like “paper, rock, scissors”, there is no universally winning strategy and the games can to on forever. In the example I gave, the Jewish money power was countered by CIA physical and secrecy power. In theory, the Jewish money power could get a politician/media coalition to pull the CIA off the Jewish representative, but in practice, maybe not. “Maybe”, the uncertainty of outcome, being the important part.
    6) Commenters/journalists who see one Agency or political coalitions as using a universally winning strategy, and thus as universally dominant, like people watching a horse race, but paying attention to only one horse. You get commenters/journalists like the singers in “fuge for tinhorns”:

    7) As a final comment, I pointed out that the current US political system depends on deficit spending, which is made possible only by selling debt to nations under US influence (technically, “Suzerainty”). Further, that the US political system is becoming unstable, and its ability to borrow money is threatened by post 1990 US withdrawal from the world (by means of failed half-hearted military expeditions). US ejection from Europe will essentially end US influence in Eurasia, which will end US deficit spending, and thus end the current US dysfunctional political system. “Minerva’s Owl flies at dusk”, meaning that one only understands a system just before it ends.

    8) I also pointed out that similar dysfunctional governments are fairly common in human history, and gave some examples.

    • Thanks: Fluesterwitz
  109. TrueIrish says:

    Great article, horrible interviewer in Eloise, the content of that interview with Stone was good, but at the moment when she really needed to ask that follow up question, she moves onto forensics.

    Two guys who are very informed on the JFK assassination tell you: (1) Kennedy was very serious about nuclear proliferation, (2) that he took on Ben Gurion and Israel on the issue, (3) that Israel stole the technology from the U.S., and (4) that Johnson tried to keep their attainment of nuclear weapons from the citizens – AND you have NO follow up?! People are so stupid.

  110. @Anonymous

    So if the Jews want to be big shots they got to suck CIA dick like everybody else.
    Cause CIA killed JFK for insubordination and the whole world knows it except for abject US dupes.

    So let me get this straight.

    We have the ‘Jews’ (a euphemism you’re using for the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel), an entity that has perhaps ONE THOUSAND TIMES more financial wherewithal than the CIA.
    In addition to that, this cartel of Zionist bankers have :

    Control of the U.S Congress/the executive/every western politician of note in the western world, (and thus has the entire U.S military/NATO military resources at its disposal)

    … yet somehow this unimaginably powerful cartel of bankers has to get down on bended knee and is subordinate to a bunch of government workers/bureaucrats in Langley Virginia ??

    Mr Ignoronymous, you can slice and dice it any way you choose, but the UR readers can see you’re a Zio troll trying to deflect blame away from your Talmudic brethren for the JFK hit.

    It’s not working. You’e making a fool of yourself ….. again.

  111. @Theophrastus

    Thanks mate. I appreciate your thoughts.

    As for Unz’s latest article, I’ll have plenty to say there as well, where I’ll be exposing the fraud of the pro-vaxx cultists movement.

  112. I don’t understand including Zapruder in the Zionic conspiracy.

    Didn’t the film demonstrate that the shots may have come from elsewhere?

    The conspiracy, if such existed, would have done better without anyone filming it.

    • Replies: @Iris
  113. @Skeptikal

    It wouldn’t be surprising if Jewish merchants, bankers, and traders in the Dallas hub of the gigantic international cotton industry were Jewish.

    Dallas was heavily Jewish. The Dallas Citizens Council that sponsored Kennedy’s visit to Dallas was dominated by Jewish businessman, and headed by Julius Schepps, “a wholesale liquor distributor, member of every synagogue in town, and de facto leader of the Jewish community,” as described by Bryan Edward Stone in The Chosen Folks: Jews on the Frontiers of Texas. (a good source to find the information you are looking for)
    Another key figure was advertising executive Sam Bloom. According to former British intelligence officer Colonel John Hughes-Wilson (JFK: An American Coup d’Etat), it was Bloom who, after Oswald’s arrest, suggested to the Police “that they move the alleged assassin from the Dallas police station to the Dallas County Jail in order to give the newsmen a good story and pictures.”

    • Thanks: Chuck Orloski, Iris
    • Replies: @Hibernian
  114. @Anonymous

    Hoisted by your own petard, hasbara. But please do go on in recounting all of your deepest fantasies; perhaps these will serve as therapy for the corrupted ganglion that serves as your “brain”.

  115. @dimples

    https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKmohrenschiltJ.htm : “On 11th May, 1978, Jeanne de Mohrenschildt (wife) gave an interview to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, where she said that she did not accept that her husband had committed suicide.”

    • Thanks: Chuck Orloski
  116. @Shamu

    “You people….”? Winding up to throw an insult?

    Not particularly interested in your perceptions of who did what in the 1600’s. Try to focus.

    jews will use whichever people will advance their work of undermining and degrading White culture. WASP, catholic, lutheran, presbyterian…etc..etc…
    …and there are always traitors and sellouts to be used. Your “point” isn’t particularly valid.

    Don’t worry about the 17th century. It’s irrelevant…
    List all the jews in biden’s cabinet.
    List all the WASPs.
    Thank you. Dismissed.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  117. antibeast says:
    @emerging majority

    Over time more arrangements, based on that public, yet with secret codicils, ultimately has resulted in the PRC today having the world’s largest economy…while it took over America’s industrial base…all arranged by those nice folks in City of London and in New York, New York…that pair of ruling Crime Clans.

    That’s a common myth, as some 80% of the FDI into China during the 1980s and 1990s came from the Overseas Chinese, not the West. Besides China, developing countries in Southeast Asia and Mexico received much of the FDI from the West during this period as the USA had imposed sanctions against China after Tiananmen. Only after China joined the WTO in 2001 did the West invest massively into accessing the Chinese market. But those Western investments are fickle as they started moving out of China since the GFC in 2008. Today, Chinese exports to the USA account for around 2% of China’s GDP, which hardly qualifies as ‘taking over America’s industrial base’ as alleged by you. And that low figure is going down even further in the near future with Western investors like Apple (together with their contract manufacturers) moving their assembly lines out of China into developing countries like India.

    • Agree: Deep Thought
  118. Iris says:
    @Priss Factor

    Didn’t the film demonstrate that the shots may have come from elsewhere?

    It did, but only inadvertently and accidentally because the assassination plan did not work as expected.

    1) As per the early ballistics, the principal hitman was positioned in the Dal-Tex building, a sanctuary controlled by the Zionist business community (in which Zapruder had his offices, too.

    This main hitman was most likely Charles “Chuck” Nicoletti, a professional assassin who worked with the Chicago mob and Meyer Lansky. In mob fashion, he was tasked with delivering a head shot to ensure that JFK’s wounds would be fatal and untreatable.

    2) Nicoletti, for some reason, missed his early shots.

    3) The kill zone, in the sniper-friendly Elm Street dog leg chosen by Dallas Zionist notability Sam Bloom, was organised for triangulation of fire: so there were back up snipers positioned at the Grassy Knoll, probably behind the picket fence.

    4) Seeing that Nicoletti could not hit the head, they fired on JFK before his limousine got out of reach . But they used a different kind of bullet, an explosive expanding bullet that caused a very powerful and visible recoil of the head towards the back. It also sent a large quantity of brain matter and blood up to the air, in a terribly horrifying jet pattern, as per the testimony of Dino Brugioni.

    Zapruder, who was entirely complicit in the JFK assassination, had been tasked, like his fellow Dancing Israelis after him, of “documenting the event”

    The purpose was most likely to show a shot from the back and further incriminate the designated patsy Lee Oswald.

    But the plan failed because Nicoletti initially missed his head shot. So after JFK’s passing, the PTB’s had to hide and keep the Z film away from the public, which was achieved by IS-controlled Life Magazine buying all the rights and keeping it under lock and keys for many years.

    However, as the contestation of the WC findings grew in the following decade, an expunged version of the Z film was released and started circulating for clandestine viewings, from which the most incriminating details were entirely removed. But the rudimentary technology of the time could not remove the tell-all “Back and to the Left” recoil of JFK’s body.

    A TV show presenter finally decided to break the Life Magazine copyrights, and took the risk to broadcast the expunged Z film on TV in the early 70’s. This was the first time the public saw it, about 10 years after the tragedy.

    • Agree: Durruti
    • Thanks: Chuck Orloski
    • Replies: @Durruti
    , @Priss Factor
  119. Wade says:
    @onebornfree

    John Wilkes Booth was also Jewish:

    I just happened to come across a very interesting bit of information on Facebook. I was doing some research on the Booth’s living relatives, when I came across a page on Facebook under “Booth Family History”. I started reading all of the family’s posts and then I read something I couldn’t believe. I’m sorry I don’t know how to upload this info from Facebook, but this is what one of the ” Booth” family members said_

    “Many people ask if we are related to John Wilkes Booth. We are not. The reason we are not is that he is not actually a Booth. He comes from a long line of Spanish Jews in England that were Shakespearian actors. Their last name was BOTHA. Back in those days, Booth was a name of nobility so they changed their last name to boost their popularity.”

    https://rogerjnorton.com/LincolnDiscussionSymposium/thread-1869.html

    Also:

    Wilkes Booth,assassin of Lincoln, was half Jewish.
    In the book, John Wilkes Booth – A Sister’s Memoir by Asia Booth, it is revealed that John Wilkes Booth’s father, Junius Brutus Booth, was Jewish.
    The passage reads: “Born in 1796 to a highly educated clan of Jewish lawyers and silversmiths on his father’s side”

    I’ll note that just a few years ago this information was easy to find with Google. Now, instead of the his sister’s testimony coming up in the first few search results, all the results seem to be allegedly scholarly refutations of the claim of Booth’s Jewish ancestry.

    I’m sure it’s possible to reconcile the claim of his ancestors being either actors or lawyers as both things can be true at the same time.

    • Replies: @Iris
  120. Anonymous[173] • Disclaimer says:

    114, in which Truth Vigilante obsessively sniffs out all references to CIA impunity and yells at them harder and louder with extra capital letters.

    Not facts. Not anything that qualifies as argument. ONE THOUSAND TIMES more” [There, math! Numerical analysis!! Cuey-D!!!]

    Truth Vigilante is not able to explain, or acknowledge, or, for that matter, comprehend the municipal law basis of CIA impunity cited above, or the Nazi ideology of procedural justification grafted onto CIA in Operation Paperclip, or the effect of subjecting a nuclear-armed great power to the arbitrary conduct of a criminal enterprise. He doesn’t remember when Tongsun Park had AIPAC’s job of bribing pols. He’s CIA’s perfect empty vessel to be rendered full of shit.

    Truth Vigilante is like fat Mel Gibson in Bravehart – Dumbheart – yelling really loud while authorities with atavistic absolute sovereignty cut his nubby little dick off, yank his bowels out and set them on fire, and chop him up. He’s not yelling FREEDOM, he’s yelling USURY!!!

    Truth Vigilante, Jews are smart enough to suck up to mobsters with clout like Cohen and Marlowe. You, by contrast, are helplessly stupid, the perfect little American citizen. That’s why you’ll live and die a cringing serf and never know it.

    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  121. Iris says:
    @Wade

    John Wilkes Booth was also Jewish:

    Also, it was reported that John Wilkes Booth had deep ties with the banking cartel in the City of London:

    Lincoln was murdered in 1865, on April 4th, by an actor, John Wilkes Booth, in whose trunk was found coded messages the key to which was found in Judah F. Benjamin’s possession. Benjamin escaped to England where he later died.

    https://saxonmessenger.christogenea.org/article/lincoln-and-rothschilds

    Judah Benjamin, a slaveowner and senator from Louisiana and first adviser to Jefferson Davis, the President of the Southern Confederacy, had been called “the brains of the Confederacy.” He is widely considered to be a key Rothschild envoy to the US from Britain, where he went back after the Civil War.

    The nature of John Wilkes Booth acting as Rothschild agent is reported in Chinese best-seller book “Currency Wars”. The book demonstrates how several American presidents were overtly or covertly executed for opposing the creation of the Federal Reserve.

    Also, it is possible that Booth was never killed, but was instead provided a new identity allowing him to peacefully live for another four decades.

    There has been a long controversy about having his DNA tested.
    Photo identification software, which are not as precise as DNA, but good enough for police and identification records, concluded that a picture of a George St Helen, who died in 1902, proved to be a perfect match for Booth facial features.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6968307/John-Wilkes-Booth-got-away-killing-Abraham-Lincoln-evading-capture-living-aliases.html

    • Thanks: Wade
  122. Wade says:
    @anastasia

    I always wondered how Zaprauder was able to hold his hands still, and continue filming after he saw a man’s head get blown off. And I always wondered why when the authorities (or someone else) was confiscating everyone’s photographs at the site of the grassy knoll, (some never to be returned), why they never took Zaprauder’s film while he was still there on the grassy knoll.

    All great points. I’ve wondered these same things. I would add to that the shooter on the grassy knoll wouldn’t have been probably more than 30 feet away from Zapruder. I’m a hunter and used to to guns going off but even I startle when I hear one go off unexpectedly. Now, pretend that someone is a) innocently, but excitedly, filming the president of the US as his motorcade drives by your offices. This alone might excite your adrenaline production a bit. b) Then suddenly, and unexpectedly, you see the president get shot from behind. This alone would illicit a reaction in most people that would be visible in the footage he took. But no, Zapruder has nerves of steal. He keeps the camera on target. The suddenly and unexpectedly a rifle blast goes off just feet from you and the president’s brains spatter up into the wind and yet there’s not the slight evidence of a startle reflex from Zapruder. The sound of the blast alone should’ve caused him to flinch at least a little.

    I’d submit to you that this was impossible unless Zapruder had actually accompanied the shooter to film it, or at the very least had been told to position himself near the shooter and to be ready for it.

    Years ago on the Michael Collins Piper show he discussed all of this with a guest. They mentioned that Jack Ruby, when he shot Oswald, had been telling everyone that he was working as a translator for the Israeli journalists who were also present in number. These journalists must’ve been Mossad agents and the same agents were likely all over the ground in Dealy Plaza. I believe this is probably who the “Babushka Lady” was. She was positioned on the opposite side of the road from Zapruda filming the assassination. I believe they were both part of the same Israeli team filming so that the perpetrators had eyes on the ground from all angles. This is probably why she’s never been identified and why her footage has never been recovered.

    What do you want to bet that if she had been apprehended and interviewed, that she would’ve spoke with a thick accent and claimed simply that she was with the Israeli press.

  123. Durruti says:
    @Iris

    Zapruder, who was entirely complicit in the JFK assassination, had been tasked, like his fellow Dancing Israelis after him, of “documenting the event”

    The purpose was most likely to show a shot from the back and further incriminate the designated patsy Lee Oswald.

    Nicely explained:

    The Sad Truth:

    Even if we would have known the truth on November 23, 1963, – the day after, We The People would have done nothing. There were no Revolutionary, or even independent political organizations, who would/could have led any resistance to, or even properly analyse, or identify, the Coup D’état.

    The so-called American Marxist political groups (small in size, but claiming to be REVOLUTIONARY VANGUARDS), Stalinist, Trotskyist, Maoist, (take your pick), repeated Democrap & Republicant Media talking points about “too many guns in Texas,” &, or, “all those Cowboys in Texas.”

    It was as if they (so-called Marxists, had never read a single word of Karl Marx. I am not implying that Marx would have responded in any principled way to the events of November 22, 1963, just that his writings were full of referrals to The Bourgeoisie, Coups, and the Revolutionary Working Class. I do not recall Marx ever criticizing –too many guns– in Paris. The closest any popular American political figure came to attempting an intelligent analysis of the Assassination, was Malcolm X, who called the event a case of the “chickens coming home to roost.”

    All the American ‘Leftist’ groups were controlled so called ‘alternate’ political forces. History shows that they were programmed to -put out the fire. Just as are groups that pretend to be alternate political options currently. I know you know that.

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  124. Thomasina says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    Thanks for your kind words, Truth Vigilante. I am amazed at the wealth of information not only from the excellent authors on this site, but from the well-informed and knowledgeable commenters such as yourself. Thank you for that. You keep well too.

  125. JWalters says:
    @folkvangr

    An excellent question. I’ve wondered about that myself.

    Keeping in mind that the JP Morgan bank on Wall Street was functionally a subsidiary of the Rothschild bank, consider the following passage from Emperialism: A Study, by John Hobson, 1902.

    “The public financial arrangements for the Philippine war put several millions of dollars into the pockets of Mr. Pierpont Morgan and his friends; the China-Japan war, which saddled the Celestial Empire for the first time with a public debt, and the indemnity which she will pay to her European invaders in connection with the recent conflict, bring grist to the financial mills in Europe; every railway or mining concession wrung from some reluctant foreign potentate means profitable business in raising capital and floating companies. A policy which rouses fears of aggression in Asiatic states, and which fans the rivalry of commercial nations in Europe, evokes vast expenditure on armaments, and ever-accumulating public debts, while the doubts and risks accruing from this policy promote that constant oscillation of values of securities which is so profitable to the skilled financier. There is not a war, a revolution, an anarchist assassination, or any other public shock, which is not gainful to these men; they are harpies who suck their gains from every new forced expenditure and every sudden disturbance of public credit.”

    On America specifically Hobson writes the following.

    “Here is a country which suddenly breaks through a conservative policy, strongly held by both political parties, bound up with every popular instinct and tradition, and flings itself into a rapid imperial career for which it possesses neither the material nor the moral equipment, risking the principles and practices of liberty and equality by the establishment of militarism and the forcible subjugation of peoples which it cannot safely admit to the condition of American citizenship.

    “Is this a mere wild freak of spread-eaglism, a burst of political ambition on the part of a nation coming to a sudden realisation of its destiny? Not at all. The spirit of adventure, the American “mission of civilisation,” are, as forces making for Imperialism, clearly subordinate to the driving force of the economic factor.”

    Quoted in War Profiteers and Israel’s Bank
    https://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com/p/war-profiteers-and-israels-bank.html

    Beyond all that, I would agree that the issue and problem of Jewish supremacism must ultimately be understood in terms of a wider phenomenon of in-group supremacist beliefs.

    • Replies: @folkvangr
  126. Hibernian says:
    @Laurent Guyénot

    Dallas was heavily Jewish.

    A Long Island of the Southwest? Or do you mean the Jewish community was larger and more influential than us industrial Northerners realized?

  127. Hibernian says:
    @P. Cleburne

    Cabinets were very WASPish until fairly recently.

  128. @Iris

    Zapruder, who was entirely complicit in the JFK assassination, had been tasked, like his fellow Dancing Israelis after him, of “documenting the event”

    But the dancing Israelis were not there to document it. They were to observe it and celebrate. Why document something that was being filmed by others? The thing is they didn’t want to be noticed. They were there only for themselves and got caught ONLY BECAUSE someone noticed them and called the authorities.

    In contrast, Zapruder was really filming the event. Whatever happened with Nicoletti, why film the event at all IF the purpose was a cover-up?
    No film means an easier spin on the event.

    Now, it’s possible that someone involved in the conspiracy suggested to Zapruder to film the passing of JFK’s car, and the man had no idea a kill was going to happen.

    Just think. How does it serve a conspiracy to be spreading the word that the president is gonna be killed.

    “Hey Zapruder, we’re gonna kill the president today. You go stand there and film the thing.”

    • Replies: @Iris
  129. Iris says:
    @Priss Factor

    But the dancing Israelis were not there to document it.

    It is their phrase, not mine.

    They were to observe it and celebrate. Why document something that was being filmed by others?

    Why would they have taken the risk to do something so outrageous and cynical, therefore very risky, just to celebrate?
    No, they had a job to do, that even required them do a reconnaissance on the same spot on the day before (See Whitney Webb).

    We can make a guess.
    Never any plane crashed on the Twin Towers. Computer-generated images (CGI) of planes were added onto videos of the very real explosions. This was done on the main “amateur” footage conveniently filmed close by by the mini-Zapruders, the likes of Hazerkhani, Courchesne and Fairbanks.

    But as years passed by and public suspicion arose about 9/11, the media were also drip-fed with additional “amateur” footages, some appearing as late as 8 years after the event.

    So it is likely that teams of Mossad “volunteers” had been tasked with filming the controlled demolition of the Twin Towers from different angles. These numerous footages could later be used as a baseline, modified with ever improving video techniques to show planes where there wasn’t any, and to reinforce and maintain the narrative.

    Whatever happened with Nicoletti, why film the event at all IF the purpose was a cover-up?

    To sell the story of a head shot from the back, to visually illustrate this story, to sell to the public the idea that Oswald was the assassin firing from behind, to control the narrative once and for all by controlling the images.

    Controlling the images and the emotions they trigger is the principal method by which the public is fooled by its overlords. If that wasn’t the case, how could averagely intelligent people still believe that the WTC “planes” were real?

    Now, it’s possible that someone involved in the conspiracy suggested to Zapruder to film the passing of JFK’s car, and the man had no idea a kill was going to happen.

    Zapruder was a member of the Dallas Zionist business community.
    He was a 33 Degree Mason, the highest possible rank.
    He had his offices in the Dal-Tex building, a Sayanim-controlled sanctuary.
    The Dal-Tex building was the real Sniper Nest; it is a fact firmly established by the early ballistics.
    This historic fact is never mentioned by any media, not even the researchers, in line with their fearful avoidance of any mention of Israel, or Dimona, or JFK’s struggle to stop Israel from acquiring the A bomb.

    That an assassin quite probably fired on JFK from the Dal-Tex Building is most relevant in the context of an Israeli connection. Co-owned by David Weisblat, a major financial backer of the Israeli lobby’s Anti-Defamation League, Dal-Tex housed, on different floors, a number of firms that utilized the telephone number of Morty Freedman, an attorney, garment manufacturer, and activist in Jewish affairs. Since JFK was working to stop Israel’s nuclear arms program—which received smuggled uranium from U.S. sources—it is notable that one Dal-Tex firm linked to Freedman was the Dallas Uranium & Oil Company. It is also intriguing that one of Freedman’s Dal-Tex business partners was Abe Zapruder, the Jewish dress manufacturer who filmed the assassination and profited immensely. Today there are some who now believe Zapruder had advance knowledge of the assassination.

    https://www.unz.com/book/michael_collins_piper__final-judgment/#p_6_1

    Don’t you think that’s a hell of a lot of coincidences?

    • Agree: Durruti
  130. @Anonymous

    Looks like my remarks really cut to the bone – judging by your frothing at the mouth tantrum in response.

    The extent of the wealth of the Zionist Usury Banking Cartel’s wealth is well documented.
    You need only read Larry Romanoff’s articles posted right here in UR (eg: ‘The Richest Man in the World’ and ‘The City of London’ to ascertain their stratospheric wealth).

    All this B.S about ‘CIA impunity’ is Zio obfuscation.
    To the extent that the CIA can commit crimes and get away with it, which higher order entity GAVE them that impunity, you dickhead ?

    Of course it was the Zio cabal, that entity that controls the entirety of the western financial system.

    As for this stupid comment of yours :

    Jews are smart enough to suck up to mobsters with clout like Cohen and Marlowe.

    What sort of a dumb f*ck are you if you don’t know that Jews ARE the Mob.
    After rabid Zionist Jew Meyer Lansky arranged for his ‘partner’ Lucky Luciano to be incarcerated in the late 30’s, and then arrange for the deportation of the latter, the Mafia was a Jewish fiefdom completely controlled by Meyer Lansky.

    No need for the Jews to suck up to Mobsters since THEY were the mobsters themselves.
    To the extent that there were still Sicilians and Italians in the mob after that, they were no more than upper middle management and working for/accountable to Meyer Lansky.

    BTW, I’m not American. I’m Australian – so you’re wrong again, in keeping with your woeful track record of getting it wrong on every issue.

    • Thanks: Durruti
  131. Durruti says:
    @Iris

    Don’t you think that’s a hell of a lot of coincidences?

    I certainly do.

    • Thanks: Iris
  132. folkvangr says:
    @JWalters

    Thank you for the excellent choice of citations. As for “Jewish supremacism”, a more appropriate and “subtle” (lol) term would “ethnocentrism.”

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  133. PUTINFAN says:

    In 1963 my father worked for the CIA in D.C. He was pretty high up, a GS-16. He never believed the CIA killed Kennedy, he was a strong Kennedy supporter. He also believed that Kennedy didn’t press the Bay of Pigs because he didn’t think they could win. My father thought he was going to do a real invasion (U.S. Marines) in his second term. He was always 100% sure of this (agreement with Kruschev be damned). My father also believed that Kennedy supported war in Vietnam in 1963 but would have tried to end it circa 1968.

    As much as I like Stone for his support of Putin, I don’ t buy his Kennedy theories
    Kennedy was a warmonger, not like McCain, closer to Obama, but still a mass murderer.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  134. Issar says:
    @anastasia

    Lyndon Johnson was the greatest traitor that ever lived. Yet even a POS like him would not instantly recall planes on the way to rescue American sailors sinking in the Mediterranean unless he had thorough knowledge beforehand that the USS Liberty was being sunk by Israel as a false flag operation to enable I.S. entry into the war– or to depose Nassar. This outrageous, murderous collusion with Israel came only 4 years after JFK’s assassination. Oh what a friend to Israel we have in Lyndon Johnson! Get it?

    Zapruder was member of the Jewish/Zionist controlled Citizen’s Council of Dallas which had invited JFK to speak at the Trade Mart. He ‘was told’ to go film the motorcade by his secretary who helped him choose a standpoint 100 feet back from the street which enabled a full view of the entire 6 second event. In other words, members of the group who initiated the event were there to ‘document the event’.

    Jack Ruby spoke with Mickey Cohen associate Al Gruber by phone before he shot Oswald. This is the direct link to both Mafia overlord Meyer Lansky and terrorist leader Menachem Begin who initiated the American Jewish Mafia gun running into Israel after WWII… Which Jews did Ruby ‘do it for’?

    Good point on Zapruder’s film being
    the only one the FBI didn’t confiscate. Makes it almost seem like Zapruder’s was the authorized version.

    • Thanks: emerging majority
  135. Anonymous[223] • Disclaimer says:

    Truth Vigilante, an Aussie! That explains everything. CIA shitcans your pathetic puppet PMs at will, Whitlam, Rudd. In Australia, the most servile US satellite, the humiliation of your subjection is clearly too raw to face. CIA’s colonial administrators really beat the shit out of you Western-Oriented Gentlemen when you tried to go outside during the sniffles!

    So that’s why you have no idea what I’m talking about. It’s not stupidity, it’s just the parochial ignorance of a redneck descendant of convicts shipped off to the ass-end of the world.

    Yes, I read Romanoff’s article, it was marred by a common misapprehension of compound interest. I also read Lord Rothschild’s book on Nathan Meyer’s role in the Napoleonic Wars. Nat gave me a copy in Vienna. That’s a place in Europe.

  136. ChuckyL75 says:

    Laurent, do you think Michael Collins Piper was killed in Idaho in 2015 by the Mossad or did he die of his illness? He was reportedly sick and was drinking heavily.

    Incidentally, I am surprised that Christopher Bollyn is still alive after all the revelations he made around 911.

    • Replies: @Issar
  137. TrueIrish says:
    @Truth Vigilante

    How can an Aussie rank out worst presidents ever so close to perfectly! Well done.

    I would swap #1 and #2, with Wilson as first among the worst due to creation of the Fed, which led to the other two. Johnson as #2 for too many reasons.

    • Agree: emerging majority
    • Replies: @Truth Vigilante
  138. @folkvangr

    I disagree. Judaic ideology definitely asserts universal supremacy for the Jews. Whether ALL Jews believe such crap is open to dispute-I certainly believe most disbelieve or swallow the agit-prop that being ‘Chosen’is a duty and burden imposed by God. But the religious nutters and the secular Zionazis do definitely believe it, I would say.

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  139. @Iris

    Christ! Another coincidence theorist!

  140. folkvangr says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Although I try to avoid quoting wikipedia “as is”, the following shows “supremacy” and “ethnocentrism” might be applied interchangeably in some cases:

    “The term “ethnocentrism” was first applied in the social sciences by American sociologist William G. Sumner. In his 1906 book, Folkways, Sumner describes ethnocentrism as “the technical name for the view of things in which one’s own group is the center of everything, and all others are scaled and rated with reference to it.” He further characterized ethnocentrism as often leading to pride, vanity, the belief in one’s own group’s superiority, and contempt for outsiders.”

    Besides, “supremacy” has become a tainted term as in “white supremacy” that has been forced on us by the “eternally victimized minority” lol. We should be smarter than that and come up with better “weapons”.

  141. @TrueIrish

    How can an Aussie rank out worst presidents ever so close to perfectly! Well done.

    It’s easier for those of us outside the U.S to appraise the worth of your Sock Puppets of the United States (SPOTUS’s), because we’re not subject to the lifelong indoctrination of your failing public school educational system and corrupt MSM.

    That said, the Australian MSM is not much better and the likes of FDR and Wilson are treated pretty generously in the history taught to our kids, so we’re also at some disadvantage there.

  142. Issar says:
    @ChuckyL75

    Piper had unexplained blistering and burns on his back when he was found dead in the Idaho motel room. His last radio broadcast demonstrated his poor state of mind and health which would have provided the perfect opportunity to blame his death on natural causes. I don’t believe any cause of death was determined but the police did note the odd circumstance of the burn marks.



    Video Link

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  143. Regarding Walt Rostow, this book seems to do the job, but only half of it: I am convinced that there was more to Rostow than just “a true ideologue (who) believed that it is beholden upon the United States to democratize other nations and do “good,” no matter what the cost.”

    Amazon presentation:

    Walt Rostow’s meteoric rise to power—from Flatbush, Brooklyn, to the West Wing of the White House—seemed to capture the promise of the American dream. Hailing from humble origins, Rostow became an intellectual powerhouse: a professor of economic history at MIT and an influential foreign policy adviser to John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson.
    Too influential, according to some. While Rostow inspired respect and affection, he also made some powerful enemies. Averell Harriman, one of America’s most celebrated diplomats, described Rostow as “America’s Rasputin” for the unsavory influence he exerted on presidential decision-making. Rostow was the first to advise Kennedy to send U.S. combat troops to South Vietnam and the first to recommend the bombing of North Vietnam. He framed a policy of military escalation, championed recklessly optimistic reporting, and then advised LBJ against pursuing a compromise peace with North Vietnam.
    David Milne examines one man’s impact on the United States’ worst-ever military defeat. It is a portrait of good intentions and fatal misjudgments. A true ideologue, Rostow believed that it is beholden upon the United States to democratize other nations and do “good,” no matter what the cost. America’s Rasputin explores the consequences of this idealistic but unyielding dogma.

  144. ChuckyL75 says:
    @Issar

    Thank you Issac but unfortunately the video is restricted in the country where I am based. I will have to get a VPN to view it!

    I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they killed him.

  145. @Durruti

    “ We must discuss my view of the Republican foundation of Government, featuring a political culture of Electoral Democracy, with yours, of Direct Democracy”

    Thank you for your invitation to discuss such an important issue. However, I doubt that my professional background and working experience in business, allow me to delve on matters related to political science. Though I will add my two cents.

    Direct democracy is what the world first experienced in Athens. This kind of democracy was inspired from the Great Council that was prevalent on the Phoenician coast in city states that thrived on free trade, where the king had to attend to political gatherings that were made up of elderly scholars, business people and artists and where decisions had to be made by consensus. The Athenians advanced the system by making it possible for citizens to cast a vote even though the voting right was restricted to the free adult male population.

    The representative democracy system was the one that Rome adapted where senators would vote on all matters of state. What followed was one of the most corrupt form of republican governance and the proof of it was the coup d’etat that was initiated by the imperial war hero Julius Caesar who crossed the Rubicon and expected resistance along the way to Rome only to find that all cities and avenues were wide open to him and the people cheering along the way. The Romans were simply sick of the rule of the Roman oligarchy whose main concern was to increase their wealth and longed for someone to serve the people. Julius Caesar true to his word, cleaned the rot whereas almost all the senators fled the country. And here it is pertinent to note that the much ballyhooed Cicero was the biggest purveyor of fake news that inspired and influenced the American founding fathers about the virtues of the representative, republican form of government.

    When talking about direct democracy, the essential condition IMHO, is a system of wide decentralization where people could either meet at municipal level and vote directly on local issues, from transgender bathrooms to allowing Nativity Scenes on public domain to other pertinent matters related to public services or infrastructure, or vote electronically through a secure blockchain network on matters of national scope like taxation and defense spending and declarations of war.

    Another very important condition of direct democracy is to keep the presentation of issues in a simple and brief way that make it understandable to the common folks. Notice how congress votes on legislation presented in many thousand of pages, without adequate time for review by representatives, related to the budget, with the Patriot Act being the quintessential example of legislative grift, where almost all of congress voted without knowing what the legislation is all about. But still common unsophisticated folks can exert a strong influence on the governing process by deciding the maximal rate of taxation at the federal and local level and whether to allow the government to run on deficit spending or not, irrespective of the justification, including matters portrayed as relating to national security. If this were the case today, the Beltway in the District of Corruption would not be arming a losing battle in Ukraine, for I have a high degree of confidence that most Americans are not willing to have their tax dollars wasted in a senseless conflict thousands of miles away fro home when American infrastructure and medical services are in tatters.

    Then the most important element for the success of direct democracy is a truly free media unlike the system currently standing whereby six huge media companies have more than ninety percent of the market. Free and independent forms of journalism should be secured at both the local and the national level, by making any consolidation of the media outlets inter-state or local media intra- state strictly forbidden, and where any income to journalists from outside the organic operation of the media enterprises is considered illegal and subject to prosecution.

    Then in any democracy, that the fifty percent plus one vote can impose a new law should be restrained by requiring a comfortable majority beyond fifty five or sixty percent depending on the issue at hand. Just notice how Biden entered the White House on a contested slim majority and started to overturn all the legislation that Trump passed like pulling the U.S. out of the membership in the Paris Climate Accord or the energy independence of U.S. etc…

    Had the U.S. been a true democracy, I believe that all the imperial wars of the United States that started under Teddy Roosevelt and accelerated with WWI and WWII and the wars of choice that followed would have never happened. The U.S. economy minus the MIC would be more vibrant and far less in debt and peace would have meant more prosperity.

    I believe that these are the sine qua non of a true direct democracy where the elites are kept at bay and the people have a better say at how they want to live their lives.

    I look forward to your reply.

    • Thanks: emerging majority
    • Replies: @Durruti
  146. Anon[985] • Disclaimer says:

    Explaining Washington’s inability to hold Israel to account, he [ Tom Friedman] said that the US administration is where it is with regard to Israel because pro-Israel lobby groups “at every turn use their power and influence” to prevent America from adopting a “more serious and vigorous” policy. “Bibi [Benjamin] Netanyahu was able to speak to the US Congress because it was bought and paid for by AIPAC,” he said,

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20230126-thomas-friedman-shows-that-liberal-jews-have-no-reason-left-to-defend-israel/

  147. Durruti says:
    @Joe Levantine

    Another very important condition of direct democracy is to keep the presentation of issues in a simple and brief way that make it understandable to the common folks. Notice how congress votes on legislation presented in many thousand of pages, without adequate time for review by representatives, related to the budget, with the Patriot Act being the quintessential example of legislative grift, where almost all of congress voted without knowing what the legislation is all about.

    The Oligarch Rulers do keep things, issues, Bills, “brief” & “simple.” They insist. Don’t need to read; just vote how we tell you. You get paid well. No need to complain or think.

    Not just the “common folks” but even the so-called elected representatives are presented with bills that they have not (& do not wish to read). We, including our post 11/22/1963 government gauleiters, are all slaves. The gauleiters receive their 30 pieces of silver, and we receive much less, but the gauleiters are all slaves, House Slaves, but slaves.

    Then the most important element for the success of direct democracy is a truly free media unlike the system currently standing whereby six huge media companies have more than ninety percent of the market.

    It will cost blood to achieve that! “free media” is not free. It must be paid for.

    Direct Democracy, or a Republican form of government, as we enjoyed, with its separation of powers, and ALMOST honest electoral political culture for us plebes, are achievable. We lost our Republic on 11/22/1963, in a hail of bullets, and to restore the same, or some sort of Direct Democracy, we must return those bullets. After we restore our Sovereignty, Honor, and LIBERTY, we will be free to haggle-vote-decide on the nature of our Government’s structure.

    Julius Caesar true to his word

    Ceasar performed in Gaul, a Vietnam style of genocide, as he enslaved the indigenous & stole their gold mines & their LIBERTY. Caesar & his clique, or today’s Zio/Imperialists, were the same powers Orwell described in his Novel, 1984.

    A Roman Philosopher wrote, and I paraphrase, “they conquered and made a Desert.”

    From Jericho, to Gaul, to Vietnam, mix some Assassinations, with 9/11, Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Palestine, LIBERTY SHIP, Planneddemics with masks, and arrows in the stores, and brainwashing in the schools and media, and Lies, and cowardice, and Corruption: Do I need a verb?

    We are friends, attempting to understand the mess we are trapped in. The solutions are difficult to face, and more difficult to achieve. Unz will not accept my articles on his forum. I do not attempt the NY Times (I did once).

    We do our best, citizens with good hearts. If Freedom was easy, it wouldn’t be worth anything at all.

    Dr. Peter J. Antonsen – nom de guerre, Durruti.

    • Thanks: emerging majority, Iris
  148. @Durruti

    Dr. Antonsen, I truly thank you for responding with realism, even though it borders on despair, for only the truly cognizant of the sad reality of our world can feel the depth of the morass that mankind is struggling through.

    It is an uncontested fact that only those who delve deep with their thinking end up suffering the most while the laypeople go about their petty pursuits. I totally share your pessimism but I have not given up on seeing one day the light of salvation at the end of the tunnel which could come by the grace of a divine intervention, for all human promises of paradise on earth turned into a free fall to hell.

    I agree with you about the brutality of the Roman imperial legacy like when Julius Caesar cut off the hands of two thousand of the finest Gall warriors, or the senseless eradication of Carthage, to mention an infinitesimal sample of the wicked European imperial streak that has continued after the fall of the Roman Empire through many metamorphosis and still running strong today under the American Empire. Will mankind cast aside pride, wickedness and self worship and learn to live in a brotherly way with fellow human beings? History is not that promising.

    I regret that Mr. Unz did not give you permission to post your articles.

    • Thanks: Iris
    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  149. @Durruti

    Joe Levantine wrote this in his comment # 154 :

    I regret that Mr. Unz did not give you permission to post your articles.

    Peter, I too would like to read your articles in the UR. You’ve demonstrated in no uncertain terms that you’re very knowledgeable (through the countless comments of yours that I’ve read), and that you’re a true patriot that is not beholden to any nefarious entities.

    Ron Unz, if you’re reading this, why is Peter Antonsen (aka Durruti), not allowed to post his articles here ?
    This is all the more peculiar when one considers that you allow Marxists/Maoists like that voodoo economist Michael Hudson to post their divorced-from-reality drivel here.

    • Replies: @emerging majority
  150. Hibernian says:
    @PUTINFAN

    …he was a strong Kennedy supporter. He also believed that Kennedy didn’t press the Bay of Pigs because he didn’t think they could win. My father thought he was going to do a real invasion (U.S. Marines) in his second term. He was always 100% sure of this (agreement with Kruschev be damned). My father also believed that Kennedy supported war in Vietnam in 1963 but would have tried to end it circa 1968.

    Sounds like Irish catholic chauvinism to me. I know whereof I speak.

  151. @Truth Vigilante

    Unz also favors articles by the Knuckle-dragging Rockaboatus. Rancid levels of homophobia are that swine’s stock in trade. Ron probably runs his shit because he feeds the types of trolls who keep up the number of likeminded commentators on this site. It is like throwing raw meat to a pack of mangy mutts. It only succeeds in driving away reasonably objective and usually well-informed posters.

    Religious nuts of varying persuasions are also attracted like flies to shit. There are sincere individuals who hold religious beliefs, but are more nuanced in their participation. But all these kinds of essays effectuate them is like an undertow calculated to draw them back into the web of authoritarian religiosity…or to succeed in driving them away from these presentations of divisiveness and hostility.

    Unwarranted hatred has become the specialite’ de Maison of this ragbag of unreality.

    • Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    • Thanks: Truth Vigilante
  152. @Joe Levantine

    Caesar committed genocide in Gaul. Wrote a fine history of the operation, too. The Romans were extraordinarily cruel, determined and ruthless. But unlike the USA, their mimics, they were competent.

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