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From Heavy today:

Zhao Chunli: Video Shows Half Moon Bay Shooting Suspect

By Jessica McBride
Updated Jan 23, 2023 at 9:46pm

Zhao Chunli was named as the 67-year-old suspect accused in the shooting deaths of seven people in Half Moon Bay, California, according to NBC Bay Area.

ABC7 reported that the shootings occurred at two farms, and an eight person was critically injured. That site gave the suspect’s name as Chunli Zhao.

… Half Moon Bay is a California community near San Francisco. …

The Sheriff’s Department Confirmed a Suspect Was in Custody

… Half Moon Bay Councilmember Debbie Ruddock told NBC Bay Area that the victims “are Chinese farmworkers.” According to ABC7, the shootings occurred at Mountain Mushroom Farm and Concord Farms. The television station reported that Mountain Mushroom Farm grows marijuana.

ABC7 reported, through a source, that “the suspect worked at one of the mushroom farms, and all the victims were coworkers.”

Of course, there was a mass shooting by a 72 year old Asian in Monterey Park in Southern California on Saturday, and one by another older Asian at an Asian church lady meeting last May.

(Back in 2020, seven middle-aged Laotians working at a marijuana farm in California were murdered. I don’t believe that case has yet been solved. The son of one victim alleged that it wasn’t an organized crime hit but a feud amongst the Laotian workers, which makes it sound like it might have some similarities to today’s shooting.)

So is this a Thing now: elderly California Asians shooting other Asians?

A lot of people deny that social contagion could have anything to do with the vast surge in Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria among adolescent girls because whoever heard of teenage girls being fad-prone. Well, if elderly Asians can be subject to the power of bad examples, why not 13 year old girls too?

In other mass shooting news, one dead and 7 wounded at the filming of a music video at a gas station in Oakland. The perp is probably not an elderly Asian, however.

 
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  1. usNthem says:

    And unfortunately for the victims, these guys can shoot, unlike the dusky negrotariat.

    • Replies: @PaceLaw
    , @Hibernian
    , @SOL
  2. My best guess: coincidence

    • Replies: @Paul Rise
    , @Enemy of Earth
  3. J.Ross says:

    Stereotypical suggestion, open to a correction: East Asian cultures have this intense pressure which often but not always yields world-beating results, but also sometimes generates people who cannot take it, hence the Chinese maternity ward knifings and our shooters.
    But hey, rigor still pays off — they don’t spray and pray.

  4. If our racist founders (white) and current conservatives (white) didn’t demand easy access to guns, Asian people wouldn’t shoot each other.

  5. Zhao Chunli

    Many Chinese Anglicize the spelling of their names to fit in better– Lee, Young, Locke, and, for Koreans, Park. Sometimes Zhao is Chow.

    His given name could be spelt Cholnondeley.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
  6. Back room at the NY Times: “Dammit, another one? Where the hell are the red neck gunmen? In the name of god won’t someone think of the Narrative?”

  7. So is this a Thing now: elderly California Asians shooting other Asians?

    “China is here”? I don’t even know what the hell that means!

    • Replies: @Mr. Grey
  8. Anonymous[735] • Disclaimer says:

    What is this?

    We Wuz Wangz?

  9. All those black-on-elderly Asian attacks, and when elderly Asians snap they…shoot Asians.

  10. @Dave Pinsen

    They don’t want to be called racist.

  11. AceDeuce says:
    @CopCityAtl

    If our racist founders (white) and current conservatives (white) didn’t demand easy access to guns, Asian people wouldn’t shoot each other.

    If our ancestors’ cucked descendants didn’t allow non-Whites over here, we wouldn’t have these problems.

    • Agree: Old Prude, Clark Kent
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  12. Not elderly at 45, but one Chinese man killed four other Chinese at an illegal Oklahoma marijuana farm on November 20th. Have read something about how a lot of pot farming moved to Oklahoma when it was legalized there.

  13. Charles says:

    Where is Le Duc Tho when we need him?

    • Replies: @bomag
  14. Anon[377] • Disclaimer says:

    Oh man, this is awesome.

    Angry young Asian dudes like Andrew Yang and Simu Liu, have been crying for years that white males are going to holocaust Asians in America. But it’s really just their dads and their grandpas who are going to kill them. For shameful display.

    • Replies: @throtler
  15. epebble says:

    I am trying to understand the consequences of “illegal marijuana grow operations.” Besides providing cheap pot to consumers, what harm do they do? Marijuana has been legalized in many states now with no noticeable change in ‘business’. The only change I see are many small cannabis stores here in Oregon.

  16. Curle says:
    @CopCityAtl

    “If our racist founders (white) and current conservatives (white) didn’t demand easy access to guns . . .”

    Our Founders didn’t. The Founders simply barred the Union from prohibiting arms. The pre-14th Amendment constitution did not control state regulation of guns.

    And the 14th Amend would have never happened but for for the destruction of federalism which was the goal and purpose of the War of Northern Aggression.

    The Civil War enslaved us.

    • Troll: Guest007
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  17. You might think the state of California and the FBI would be concerned about multibillion dollar illegal marijuana grow operations in rural California run by Mexican cartels, Chinese triads and Laotion criminal networks. Nah! Just as legalizing shoplifting encourages organized retail theft, half assed marijuana legalization and lax law enforcement allows for organized crime to openly operate illegal farms across the state of California.

    Imagine what would have happened if after Prohibition, the government simply allowed for illegal alcohol to be sold without any requirement to comply with tax and safety regulations. If mob controlled speakeasies were allowed to continue operating with impunity. Anarchistic legalization of marijuana has not stopped organized crime, it has supercharged it. And no one in power seems to care very much.

    https://nypost.com/2023/01/18/1400-illegal-pot-shops-now-open-in-nyc-already-wreaking-havoc/

    New York City currently has at least 1,300 illegal marijuana stores, including at least 10 within a five blocks of where I live. There is only one legal store in the city run by the AIDs charity, Housing Works. Not making that up.

    Who do you think is supplying these illegal storefronts? 90% of these stores are completely empty. Do you think they may also be money laundering fronts? No law enforcement for selling illegal, untested narcotics, but opposite street parking rules are still strictly enforced.

    At what point do we realize that politicians are working with organized crime?

  18. Are elderly asian men replacing young black men as the most dangerous demographic in America? Is this what Biden promised?

    • LOL: stari_momak
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Dutch Boy
  19. @CopCityAtl

    With TD gone, I guess you’ll have to do.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    , @Bill Jones
  20. PaceLaw says:
    @usNthem

    With these recent mass shooting deaths that we’ve heard about recently, the typical black-on-black shootings, where there are a number of woundings but few fatalities – Steve has described this phenomenon previously – don’t really generate much media attention, even when over 10 people are shot.

    https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/crime_police/club-was-hosting-lsu-southern-party-before-mass-shooting/article_9122d246-9b35-11ed-b68b-1f5dbc73d375.amp.html

  21. @clifford brown

    Imagine what would have happened if after Prohibition, the government simply allowed for illegal alcohol to be sold without any requirement to comply with tax and safety regulations.

    We had one kind of country then; we now have another kind.

    Also, we don’t really even have this one any more. It’s someone else’s.

  22. @CalCooledge

    Sounds like it’s time for another Jan 6 update!

    Who can we send to prison for 10 to 20 today?

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  23. Twinkie says:

    I am curious what the actual, overall “gun violence” statistics is like (or even mass-shootings) by race, ethnicity, religion, etc. either in CA or the country as a whole.

    I think these are likely man-bites-dog type of stories, given much attention by the media to gin up outrage about guns rather than the demographic segment that is disproportionately and highly overrepresented in violent crimes.

  24. Thomm says:

    @Twinkie

    Mr. Twinkacetti said :

    I think these are likely man-bites-dog type of stories

    Not the best metaphor coming from you, given Korean culinary preferences.

    given much attention by the media to gin up outrage about guns rather than the demographic segment that is disproportionately and highly overrepresented in violent crimes.

    That sounds like a 2020s version of a “Twinkie Defense”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinkie_defense

    You may want to think this through a bit more.

    • Replies: @Truth
  25. RIP.

    Elderly Asians aren’t a demographic that you see much in the news. Perhaps they see all these other groups constantly making noise and feel like they need to also assert themselves?

    social contagion

    That might be an important piece in this puzzle.

  26. The end is near. It was good knowing you, gentlemen.

  27. • Replies: @Guest007
  28. Twinkie says:

    By the way, we talk a lot about criminals here, but how about a cheer for this brave young man: https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/us/brandon-tsay-alhambra-monterey-park-shooting/index.html

    Tsay is right – it’s something I teach my kids: courage is not the absence of fear; it’s daring to do what needs to be done despite the fear.

    • Agree: J.Ross, Hibernian
    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  29. @epebble

    They don’t pay taxes, and often engage in other crimes

    • Thanks: Hibernian
  30. @epebble

    I am trying to understand the consequences of “illegal marijuana grow operations.”

    Illegal drug operations run by criminals resolve disputes by killing people for one. Marijuana legalization has expedited Mexican cartel infiltration of the American economy.

    How has allowing Mexican drug cartels to operate openly worked out for Mexico? It is probably a good thing in your book because “cheap drugs are good for consumers.” The organized crime groups do not pay appropriate taxes, they do not pay for water and they resolve business disputes with bullets. As may have happened in Half Moon Bay, although the facts are unclear. If you cannot figure out why armed criminal gangs running businesses may have negative externalities, you are beyond help.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/16/us/goshen-california-massacre-six-dead/index.html

    The small cannabis stores in Oregon are likely supplied by organized criminal network and likely will be involved in money laundering if the laissez faire approach continues. Without push back from authorities, the men with guns will push out every law abiding grower and eventually extort your local mom and pop retailers into their control.

    • Agree: AceDeuce, kaganovitch, TWS
    • Thanks: bomag
    • Replies: @AceDeuce
  31. Mr. Anon says:
    @People's liberation army member

    Are elderly asian men replacing young black men as the most dangerous demographic in America? Is this what Biden promised?

    We want mass shooters that look like America.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  32. danand says:
    @Twinkie

    “… actual, overall “gun violence” statistics is like (or even mass-shootings) by race, ethnicity, religion, etc. either in CA…”

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oakland-shooting-eight-victims-one-dead-californias-third-mass-shooting-as-many-days/

    The “other” California mass shooting yesterday got roughly 15 seconds of coverage on the evening news. Hardly worth the mention, it being your more ordinary dog shoots dog…aspiring rapper… type event in JOakland. One dead, roughly half dozen wounded.

    Odd that the elderly Asian killer drove to the sheriffs office and turned himself in?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  33. @Dave Pinsen

    If an Asian did even one shooting targeting blacks, things could go downhill rather quickly in a large scale. This is not something one wants happening.

  34. I guess the Asians figure if they shoot enough of one another, the Ivies will lower the SAT scores necessary for Asian admission. In today’s climate, it’s probably a good bet.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  35. Long time no visit Half Moon Bay, must be 30 years, enjoyed red snapper at a seafront restaurant, looking over at the comms dishes on the headland. Was there a pumpkin festival on at the time?

    OT, a few odd bits of Ukraine news.

    Alexei Arestovych, long time adviser to Zelensky, resigned a day or two back after spilling the beans that the latest “deliberate Russian attack on civilians” was in fact an artefact of air defence, the missile was hit and crashed into the residential block.

    Various people are speculating on how long he’s got, I don’t think he’s gone on the death list yet.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksii_Arestovych

    The guy in charge of defence logistics, Vyacheslav Shapovalov, has resigned following accusations of corruption involving food contracts. Acting minister of regional development Vasyl Lozinsky was detained for accepting bribes, and Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov allegedly secured food at inflated prices – which he denies.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/23/ukraine-deputy-minister-sacked-for-alleged-theft-of-400000

    https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/886360.html

    Ukraine’s deputy prosecutor general, Oleksiy Symonenko, has been removed from his post and presidential aide Kyrylo Tymoshenko resigned. The heads of the Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Kherson and Sumy regions of Ukraine resigned. Are the US replacing obviously corrupt officials?

    Meanwhile US forces and proxies get ever closer to Ukraine. The SIGINT planes which used to fly from Sigonella or Fairford now fly from Romania, Swedish SIGINT planes patrol the Belorussian border, despite official Swedish neutrality.

    Talking of corruption…

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/18/bulgaria-secretly-supplied-ukraine-fuel-ammunition-first-months-war-russia

    Petkov had to act covertly because of the overtly pro-Kremlin sympathies among many in Bulgaria’s political class, including his Socialist coalition partners.

    Meanwhile, polls showed more than 70% of Bulgarians feared being drawn into the conflict and opposed supplying arms to Ukraine, despite their country having large stocks of Soviet-calibre arms and ammunition that Kyiv urgently needed.

    According to Kuleba, the arms shipments began in mid-April after he visited Sofia. Ukraine had repelled Russia’s initial drive on Kyiv but was running dangerously short of supplies, with many western deliveries not yet under way and Soviet-calibre ammunition being particularly needed.

    “We knew Bulgaria had large quantities of the ammunition needed, so [I was sent to] procure the necessary materials,” Kuleba told Die Welt. He said it was a matter of “life and death”, adding that Petkov had replied that while his domestic political situation was “not easy”, he would do “everything in his power”.

    Sofia did not supply Ukraine directly, but allowed Bulgarian intermediaries to sell to their counterparts in Ukraine or Nato member states, and kept open its air links with Poland and land routes via Romania and Hungary, Petkov told the paper. Many deliveries were ultimately paid for by the US and UK, Die Welt said, without citing sources.

    And talking of corruption, remember I said Iraqi born UK minister (and chancellor for a few weeks) Nadhim Zahawi had the misfortune of looking like a gigantic crook?


    He’s just had to stump up a penalty to the UK tax office, and it don’t think it’s because his tax return was a couple of weeks late.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/23/unanswered-questions-leave-nadhim-zahawi-political-fate-in-balance

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Anon
  36. @clifford brown

    New York City currently has at least 1,300 illegal marijuana stores, including at least 10 within a five blocks of where I live. There is only one legal store in the city run by the AIDs charity, Housing Works. Not making that up.

    When that one legal store opened, there were lines around the block. And the patrons were exactly what you’d expect.

    On CNBC this morning, they described the place where the shooting happened as a “farm related business”. Apparently the Narrative requires hiding the fact that the haphazard legalization of marijuana is not going that well.

    • Replies: @clifford brown
  37. @HammerJack

    “Who can we send to prison for 10 to 20 today?”

    That guy who put a foot up on Pelosi’s desk. Lese-majeste, plus theft – of one envelope!

    (OT – asked about Lynne Truss, Dom Cummings said she was the one conservative MP who wanted to be on TV even more than Boris did!)

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  38. ATBOTL says:

    This simply reflects the demographics of America’s population. As white Americans are replaced with asian immigrants, more shooters will be Asian. The only angle here worth talking about is the Great Replacement of white people. Keep the focus on what’s important and don’t go down boomer tangents in irrelevant directions.

  39. anon[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    Aren’t there any enthnonarcissist Asian HBD blogs where you can bore people to tears with your comments?

  40. Shamu says:
    @J.Ross

    Very often it generates people who break under the pressures. Just not all that many become mass shooters. But they break.

    And then there are the deep, often long-standing rivalries between ‘groups’ that easily get triggered.

    And then we have the simple fact of follow the leader, be part of the fad. Blacks are BELOVED by the white and Jew elites and are extremely violent. Sop what’s a poor Asian to think and do to get some love from the Yank elites?

    At some point, gangs of Asians are going to decide they have had enough go sacred cow blacks, and they will then make deals with Mexicans and whatever whites have enough gas left in the tank, and they are going to explode on scared cow blacks and the handlers and backers of the sacred cows. It never is the screw two that is the real problem. The real problems that must be corrected is always who made the cow sacred and keeps enforcing its sacredness.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  41. MEH 0910 says:
    @HammerJack

    With TD gone, I guess you’ll have to do.

    Tiny Duck/Ebony Obelisk is still occasionally commenting.

  42. J.Ross says:
    @Twinkie

    Oh absolutely: school shootings are still more rare than almost any other sort of death, but the white ones always receive wall-to-wall media coverage out of pure political bias. What would crime reporting look like if the reporters weren’t crooks?

  43. Mark G. says:

    Chinese people are often portrayed as some sort of super geniuses, but I question that. These are the people who adopted an unworkable economic system, Marxism, and then held on to it for decades before realizing it is unworkable. These are the people who created a giant real estate bubble in their country. These are the people who adopted a one child policy that led to not enough women for the men to marry because they were aborting girl babies. These are the people who a few years back released a deadly disease that killed millions when it escaped from a lab due to their ineptitude. These are the people who just recently gave up on harsh lockdowns to fight that disease after almost everyone else had abandoned them as a bad idea.

    I’ve only worked with one Chinese person. She got angry with our boss because they gave her a cubicle that was facing the wrong way and it was bad luck, according to Feng shui. She asked me one time if I knew about any local fortune tellers she could go visit. Another time she explained the principles of Chinese astrology to me. Another time she showed me a dollar bill and told me it was a lucky dollar because her Buddhist priest had blessed it. She also believed in various quack treatments for diseases, none of which I remember now. I think the U.S. has lots of problems but I don’t worry about the Chinese as a long-term major future threat to us.

  44. mmack says:
    @clifford brown

    “At what point do we realize that politicians are working with organized crime?”

    Dude! I’m from the Chicagoland area. It’s a proud heritage.

    And do you think all those sanitation companies and road construction contractors are squeaky clean?

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
    • Replies: @clifford brown
  45. @JohnnyWalker123

    Allah was showing support for the Women’s March.

  46. Mike Tre says:
    @J.Ross

    Immigrant population control: another job whites won’t do.

    • LOL: Guest007
  47. Dr. X says:
    @CalCooledge

    I’m sure Ray Epps and Co. are working on that…

  48. Anon[366] • Disclaimer says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Meanwhile US forces and proxies get ever closer to Ukraine. The SIGINT planes which used to fly from Sigonella or Fairford now fly from Romania, Swedish SIGINT planes patrol the Belorussian border, despite official Swedish neutrality.

    You will know when the Russian offensive commences as those SIGINT planes and satellites will go dark and transatlantic undersea cables in the North Atlantic and several other routes will be severed.

    The Biden Administration’s openly-stated reversal of first-use nuclear weapons use policy a few months back (what good timing!) no doubt has secretly altered the Russian nuclear weapons use policy.

    In domestic news…

    • Thanks: JimDandy
  49. AceDeuce says:
    @clifford brown

    Illegal drug operations run by criminals resolve disputes by killing people for one.

    True. That’s why I was so pissed off when Trump pardoned that old groid female that his stupid kid and Kim Mudsharkian were slobbering over. She wasn’t some low level civilian selling loose joints from her home.

  50. I’ve enjoyed the discussion and the great quips here as usual. However, of 48 comments as I write, so far only ATBOTL here backed off to see and mention the big picture of this story.

    I understand some very low levels of immigration for various reasons with accompanying assimilation. WTF good does it do America to have this Monterrey Park deal (I know there were lots of Chinese people there in the late 1980s even!) and Laotian mushroom pickers, and what I’ve seen lately, EVERYWHERE, thousands of employees hired from various African countries?

    It’s like the cheap-labor slavery era again, except the choices are so many there’s probably an app now. “Drop down the selections for type of work. Drop down your first 3 choices of country of origin.” (Well, hell, there are 190, so how about a graphical map link instead?) “Choose your pay rate. Choose your county for this replacement program. OK, you’re almost done. Now, mash [SUBMIT], and you’re on your way with PvD™!” (Profits via Dieversity.)

    • Agree: bomag
  51. @Mark G.

    Recent immigrants from China bring all of their superstitions to the US, but even American-born people of Chinese descent are into Feng Shui, numerology, fortune telling, astrology, etc.

    The average Han Chinese may score slightly higher on IQ tests than the average Northwestern European, but there’s probably a good reason why there aren’t any 100% Chinese designed-and-built cars, aircraft, major appliances being sold in the West (as opposed to Japan and Korea). Plenty of technology “transfer”, though…

  52. @JohnnyWalker123

    The end is near.

    It might be the end if you fly through that son of a bitch. (Assuming it’s not a photo-editing job – looks pretty strange.)

    Of course, CBS news can not even go look up somewhere a quick CORRECT blurb on lenticular clouds. They are stationary over or on the lee side of mountaintops, but the air within them is moving rapidly (condensation on the upswing and evaporation on the down.) Those and the somewhat similar “rotor clouds” are to be avoided.

    “Forms from wind fluctuations”?? “Turbulence moving downward in the sky”?? These phrases make no sense. How stupid do you have to be to be hired at CBS? (Or, lazy?)

  53. Hibernian says:
    @usNthem

    They’ve had practice shooting from rooftops.

  54. Hibernian says:
    @J.Ross

    …rigor still pays off…

    And leads to rigor mortis.

  55. PeterIke says:

    Maybe these old Asian dudes are angry that all their daughters are marrying white guys and spitting out 1.7 ugly little happa babies, forever breaking the genetic line, while their sons do nothing but play video games all day when they’re not running quant finance computing systems at Goldman Sachs. Meanwhile, the grand children who go to the Ivy League after years of test prep and perfection of cheating techniques come out totally woke, tranny-obsessed, pro-black and anti “patriarchy,” and an increasing number of their sons are coming out gay and their daughters moving on to black and Hispanic men, because hooking up with white guys is racist.

    Wouldn’t YOU go shoot up a room?

    • LOL: BB753
    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @PhysicistDave
  56. Hibernian says:
    @clifford brown

    At what point do we realize that politicians are working with organized crime?

    When we wake up in the morning.

  57. bomag says:
    @Charles

    LOL

    Also Nguyen Huu An, the officer in We Were Soldiers: “Kill all they send… and they will stop coming.”

    • Replies: @Charles
  58. @Mark G.

    Mark, I have experienced and observed much of this myself. I think as individuals, Chinese people have a lot going for them upstairs. Because they must memorize 3-4 thousand sets of 10-15 (average?) squiggles just to be literate, they, by nature*, have good memory skills. That’s not all, as they do a lot of calm logical thinking too. There’s a calmness or larger hesitation to anger, more than in White people and moreso you-know-whom.

    Yes, of course we’ve gotten the smarter of the bunch, at least up through about 20 years ago or so, with the million of Chinese illegal aliens having come now too.

    The superstition thing is, yeah, pretty stupid. I mean, Americans don’t do that no-floor-13 or no-row-13-on-the-airliner thing anymore. It was more of a fad and just fun. The Chinese take this seriously still, and that is astounding. Yeah, you need to have some water out front of your house, or some BS. 8 – good, 4 – bad.** Come on! Leave that shit in China.

    As a people in general though, yes, they have some stumbling blocks that they have never overcome in 3,500 years. Here’s the biggest, that explains a lot of it all, IMO: The Chinese population has never had a concept of real liberty or freedom. When they think their government sucks, and it so often does, it’s because “too much corruption” and “got the wrong guy in office”. Never, never, do you read about “Hey, there’s gonna be more corruption when you have more government.” from these people.

    As evil and stupid as the CCP has been lately, with the Covid~Zero and earlier stupidity regarding the Flu Manchu, were the CCP ever gone, the Chinese people would demand other “leadership”, you know, to run things … (People can’t just run things themselves, right?)

    They want to be led, I guess, and they don’t want to be loners either. Even in the smallest of villages there, they live in close-together buildings, not off by their small plots of land. (That’s what I’ve seen, anyway.)

    But of course, good old Peak Stupidity explained this problem before in Citizenship in the Nation.

    .

    * I had this theory that it has become genetic due to natural selection – see, their government workers, who must be literate, were the smarter of the population, while in Soviet America, stupid hires you, or something, and I’d think they’d have reproduced more. However, Ron Unz wrote an interesting paper, with calculations, on this, and I think he was right that it’s not the case that there could have been natural selection for good memory skills over the Han Chinese 3,500 year history.

    ** Back when China was still the Wild, Wild East, one could get SIM cards on the street for unlocked cell phones. One with a bunch of 4’s in the phone number would be much cheaper than one with a bunch of 8’s. Who’s gonna call you if your phone number has a bunch of sounds-like-“die”s in it? I mean, I never!

  59. Ben Kurtz says:
    @clifford brown

    “At what point do we realize that politicians are working with organized crime?”

    Fixed it for ya’!

  60. njguy73 says:
    @clifford brown

    Politicians don’t work with organized crime

    Politics is organized crime.

    • Thanks: Coemgen
  61. bomag says:
    @clifford brown

    Maybe not so much working with organized crime, but we’re in a stage of modern politics where the model is to let certain groups be above the law so those in power don’t have to face the icky job of being mean to bad people. Thus, such groups can riot and flout the law, while insurance and a compliant populace puts up with it.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  62. J.Ross says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    The woman who invented the Chinese equivalent of Tabasco sauce was granted a car license plate of all 8’s by a grateful bureaucracy.
    https://www.chinasmack.com/laoganma-chili-sauce-founder-awarded-a8888-license-plate-by-govt

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  63. J.Ross says:
    @Mark G.

    I have an oversimplification I’ve been looking to falsify: the mainland Chinese model for everything is tulipomania. This follows complaints from Hong Kong Chinese that mainlanders focus on one thing, ruin it, and then move on to the next one thing.

    • Replies: @Farenheit
  64. The Year of the Rabbit is off to a bang-up start

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @duncsbaby
  65. Coemgen says:
    @Mark G.

    Chinese people are often portrayed as some sort of super geniuses, but I question that.

    The sweet spot for IQ vs BS detection is owned by the European man.

    100 IQ plus innate contrariness beats a gullible 105 IQ nearly all the time (i.e., in a fair fight).

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  66. GeraldB says:
    @Mark G.

    Chinese people are often portrayed as some sort of super geniuses, but I question that.

    Yeah. I teach Math and Statistics at a medium-sized university in the deep south. I’ve had a lot of Chinese students in my classes, and the usually do very well. But they do it by cheating their asses off. Most of them are clever enough to do it without getting caught.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  67. throtler says:
    @Anon

    Yeah. everybody should remember that Andrew Yang is racist towards white people and never vote for him.

  68. @Achmed E. Newman

    Typical sinophobic tripe. Bureaucracy to the Chinese is civilization itself: autocracy seems quite remote and easily ignored when there are eight-ranks of local bureaucrats pursuing their own goals in your province alone. The end goal is to become the corrupt bureaucrat, which is a beautiful thing indeed.

    Much better than whitey aspirations, which is typically to have gay sex or become a drag queen.

  69. @YetAnotherAnon

    OT – asked about Lynne Truss, Dom Cummings said she was the one conservative MP who wanted to be on TV even more than Boris did!

    She doesn’t come off that way to me, and she even likes to watch golf:

    Perhaps you mean Liz?

  70. tyrone says:
    @clifford brown

    At what point do we realize that politicians are working with organized crime?

    ….Politicians (democrats and their republican lackeys) ARE organized crime .

  71. J.Ross says:

    There was also an Asian mass shooting in Iowa recently. It’s one of those living Coen brothers stories which gets funnier as you go along. First, everyone involved is not only Asian but actually a Chinese citizen. They came here to grow pot. The shooting happened because one of the Chinese people decided he no longer wanted to invest in a pot farm in a foreign country, and demanded his $300,000 investment back, instantly, in cash.
    https://apnews.com/article/business-shootings-marijuana-homicide-oklahoma-f6922f0e9b96cac4b25867bf698be6e9

    • Replies: @Barnard
  72. @danand

    On the same site: Gavin Newsom after Monterey Park shooting: “Second Amendment is becoming a suicide pact”

    And diversity isn’t?

    The Oakland shooting likely illustrates Sailer’s Law. Or does it?

    “The shooting was reported just after 6 p.m. on the 5900 block of MacArthur Boulevard at Seminary Avenue, adjacent to the grounds of Mills College.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/oakland-mass-shooting-macarthur-boulevard-seminary-avenue-mills-college/

    Mills, historically a white girls’ school, looks like this:

    Students enrolled at Mills College in full-time Undergraduate programs are most commonly Hispanic or Latino Female (35%), followed by White Female (33%) and Black or African American Female (11.3%). Students enrolled in full-time Graduate programs are most commonly White Female (32.3%), followed by Hispanic or Latino Female (16.7%) and Black or African American Female (10.9%).

    DataUSA Mills College

    Wouldn’t most “Latinas” at a once-tony school mostly be “white Hispanic”?

    According to this, the area around Seminary Gas is majority white, but not overwhelmingly so:

    https://bestneighborhood.org/race-in-oakland-ca/

    • Replies: @danand
  73. @J.Ross

    Thanks, I did take a look and tend to agree, but I learned not to make too many predictions about this war during the 3 months I spent monitoring the Bakhmut campaign. IIRC back in July or August Donbass forces were at the cement plant to the east of the town, and I believe as of now they are just outside it. The Ukrainian defence has been tremendous, even if tragically so for both sides, while the neocons applaud Slavs killing each other.

    I’m cautiously optimistic about the situation, but then I’ve considered Ukraine will inevitably be defeated since Day 1.

    Boris has a lot of blood on his hands, stopping an early negotiated settlement, but even then he’s only The Mouth Of Sauron. How many battle tanks have the UK got?

    I do share Serge’s concern that the public opinion tail may end up wagging the military dog.

    “given the intense war fever that has built up in the west, it’s possible that political momentum imposes the choice upon us. It is possible that we have reached the point where the tail wags the dog, that NATO is trapped in its own rhetoric of unequivocal support until Ukraine wins a total victory, and we may yet see Leopard 2A4s burning on the steppe”

    This could be interesting, in the Chinese curse sense. If all the Europeans send all their tanks and artillery to Ukraine (“multiple countries, including Denmark and Estonia, are sending Ukraine literally all of their howitzers“) and they all get smashed, what happens when Zelensky’s replacement does a deal and Russia faces an EU with no weapons left? That prospect would tempt a saint. Talinn is a lovely place for a dacha, as indeed are the islands off Helsinki.

    • Agree: BB753, mc23
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @J.Ross
  74. Charles says:
    @bomag

    I naively thought a whole bunch of people would give me LOLs for my comment!

  75. looks like Chun Li got tired of the Street Fighter jokes.

    if only he had just transitioned into a woman, this all could have been avoided.

    America 2023.

  76. @Technite78

    “probably a good reason why there aren’t any 100% Chinese designed-and-built cars”

    I recently hired a “Maxus” – a Chinese van about the size of a Ford Transit. But they did take over a British/Dutch firm and all its tech.

    Lots of electric bells and whistles, a 7 year warranty, and about £10k cheaper than a Ford. Easy to drive. They are going for the “White Van Man” market and perhaps the camper van market too.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxus

  77. @Meretricious

    My best guess: too much MSG in the food.

  78. Mr. Anon says:

    Here’s an LA Times article that seems rather sympathetic to the mass murderer:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/monterey-park-shooter-glimpses-into-a-life-so-miserable-and-desperate/ar-AA16GoNH#comments

    I don’t remember any media outlet writing anything so understanding about any white mass murderers.

  79. JimDandy says:

    I think the Asian streak has been snapped.

    Eight people were shot, one fatally, in Oakland on Monday evening, the third mass shooting event in gun-controlled California during the last three days.

  80. J.Ross says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Regarding the Donbas militias, I quote Moon of Alabama (longer excerpt under more tag):

    The attacking Russian force is the 58th army of the Russian Federation. These are not lightly armored, air deployable VDV forces like those who fought around the Hostomel Airport airport [sic] near Kiev. These are not militia of the Donbas republics seen on the eastern front. These are not Chechen forces storming Mariupol. These are not the Wagner mercenaries surrounding Bakhmut.

    This is the real Russian army, the Red one, with all its heavy resources and capabilities to wage combined arms warfare.

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/01/ukraine-russian-army-activates-southern-front.html#more

    Also it is being reported that several Ukrainian ministers have resigned, and, shortly after their resignations, a new law was announced forbidding civil servants from leaving the country.

    [MORE]

    The Military Land Deployment map, sympathetic to the Ukrainian side, shows just three [Umrainian] Territorial Defense brigades covering a 100 kilometer long southern defense line. These brigades are infantry rich but not mobile. They have only little heavy equipment. The Ukrainian 65th Mechanized Brigade is the only capable force in the area. It is screening Zaporizhzhia city but has been heavily bleeding it [in?] its position for quite a while.

    One Motorized Infantry brigade, the 56th, was added to the southern front some six days ago. Back in August this brigade had been severely mauled in its defense of Peski at the eastern front. It has since been reconstituted with new conscripts and a smorgasbord of ‘western’ delivered equipment. It can not be regarded as a fully capable unit.

    There is no Ukrainian artillery brigade in the sector. There are thereby no counter-artillery capabilities available.

    The attacking Russian force is the 58th army of the Russian Federation. These are not lightly armored, air deployable VDV forces like those who fought around the Hostomel Airport airport near Kiev. These are not militia of the Donbas republics seen on the eastern front. These are not Chechen forces storming Mariupol. These are not the Wagner mercenaries surrounding Bakhmut.

    This is the real Russian army, the Red one, with all its heavy resources and capabilities to wage combined arms warfare.

    The first probing Russian attacks in the area were launched two days ago. The Ukrainian lines immediately broke down and the Russian forces advanced some 5 kilometer on the very first day. Yesterday they advanced further.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    , @PhysicistDave
  81. J.Ross says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    They won’t all get smashed. Ukraine sells most of the military equipment they receive.

  82. Twinkie says:
    @PeterIke

    I think this says more about you than “these old Asian dudes.”

    • Replies: @puttheforkdown
    , @Thomm
  83. Anonymous[293] • Disclaimer says:
    @Technite78

    Right, because smart white people don’t have any crazy beliefs….

    Pretty much every story on this blog is evidence to the contrary.

    • Replies: @tyrone
  84. @bomag

    See also how anarcho-tyranny serves our ruling trash, their alliance with criminals who mostly prey on lower classes they hate can be tacit instead of formal.

  85. @Twinkie

    I agree, these guys should be happy their daughters are throwing their bloodline away. Imagine if genetic relatedness and other factors informed by our evolutionary history have primed human beings to be clannish and care about who our family members mate and affiliate with? It beggars belief. Thanks for the insight, Twinkie.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  86. Dutch Boy says:
    @People's liberation army member

    It wasn’t his fault. He was corrupted by white supremacist ideology by driving around in that white van!

  87. @Achmed E. Newman

    The Chinese population has never had a concept of real liberty or freedom.

    They were not totally devoid of it at one point, but most who were inclined to liberty fled to Taiwan, got slaughtered by Mao, or emigrated to the west.

  88. @Achmed E. Newman

    Ah, a little slice of Jupiter, right in Anatolia.

    btw, for reasons too long to explain, I’ve been reading a lot about Jupiter lately, and apparently it rains diamonds there. Diamonds after all are just highly-compressed carbon, and the atmosphere is so dense and hot that diamonds are, well, Jupiter’s version of snowflakes.

    Maybe we can start street rumors about this, and set off a Zionist stampede to Jupiter.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  89. @Supply and Demand

    This guy needs to have his own personal “A$$HOLE” button, reserved for him alone.

  90. Guest007 says:

    Steve,

    If one wants to know why the U.S. succeed in doing anything complex, one only has to see what the National Academy of Sciences is spending its money on.

    Advancing Anti-Racism, Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion in STEM Organizations: A Consensus Study

    An interdisciplinary committee of experts will develop a cohesive report with recommendations for actionable antiracist mechanisms to advance diversity, equity, and inclusion. The final consensus report will review research and evidence in which racism and bias conditions create systemic barriers and impede STEM careers for historically marginalized racial/ethnic groups; identify principles for sustainable organizational culture change to address racism and promote diversity, equity, and inclusion; synthesize existing research on methods to improve recruitment, retention, and advancement; identify examples of effective strategies to advance anti-racism in STEM organizations; define a research agenda to address gaps to advance anti-racism, diversity/equity, and inclusion.

    https://www.nationalacademies.org/our-work/advancing-anti-racism-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-in-stem-organizations-a-consensus-study

  91. John’s law of mass shootings in California:

    Assault weapons will be blamed before the weapon is determined and there will be no discussion of existing laws.

  92. @Coemgen

    Yea well I don’t think most European men have that sweet spot.

    I’d bet on a skeptical Mexican illegal fresh over the border vs a White government worker with a grad degree.

    I’ve been around grad students that fully gobbled up the idea that race is merely skin color. I honestly assumed at one point that such students must know it is a lie. No and in fact they were more likely to believe in egalitarian fantasy than the janitors that cleaned the building.

    I’ve also met too many intelligent conservatives that fully buy the idea that Leave it to Bantu would exist if not for big government Democrats.

    One in fact has a wall full of awards for his profession that requires critical thinking. It’s unreal.

    Whites produce skeptics but far more True Believers are born.

    • Replies: @Coemgen
    , @bomag
    , @Colin Wright
  93. @J.Ross

    Stereotypical suggestion, open to a correction: East Asian cultures have this intense pressure which often but not always yields world-beating results, but also sometimes generates people who cannot take it, hence the Chinese maternity ward knifings and our shooters.

    J. Ross, I think this is basically correct.

    White guys might get into arguments with co-workers. Maybe in the very odd case some actual fighting. But basically, we white guys aren’t so bolted down. If there are “issues” we tend to go ahead and get into it more or less–depending on the person–when it’s at hand.

    The East Asian guys tend to be more repressed … but then when they snap, they are more likely to really snap.

    The other aspect is immigration. Immigration takes people out of their normal cultural milieu and dumps them in another culture where they are likely to be an atomized individual and not fit in. For example, the Korean POS at Virginia Tech 15 years back. He’d have been a loon and a loser back in Korea. But being a “fish-out-water” surrounded by all these white girls who had zero interest in him probably didn’t help.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  94. tyrone says:
    @Anonymous

    Pretty much every story on this blog is evidence to the contrary.

    ……It’s just the facts ma’am.

  95. @Twinkie

    I think these are likely man-bites-dog type of stories, given much attention by the media to gin up outrage about guns rather than the demographic segment that is disproportionately and highly overrepresented in violent crimes.

    You are correct and it works.

    Polls show that a majority of Americans support an assault weapons ban even though most gun violence is among Blacks and involves handguns.

    I’ve seen comments from people that said they stopped going to events and movie theaters because of mass shootings.

    Most people aren’t very good with numbers and fully believe that race isn’t a factor. Even in conservative forums you can get banned for simply pointing out that most shootings involve Black males aged 18-24. Most conservatives are offended by such frank talk and prefer a general message about the 2A. Well that is ultimately a losing strategy as it allows the left to continue their fibs about what gun violence looks like.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  96. Truth says:
    @Twinkie

    I think these are likely man-bites-dog type of stories, given much attention by the media to gin up outrage about guns rather than the demographic segment that is disproportionately and highly overrepresented in violent crimes.

    I think you should tell the dead people’s families that.

  97. Truth says:
    @Thomm

    I think these are likely man-bites-dog type of stories

    Not the best metaphor coming from you, given Korean culinary preferences.

    LMAO!

    Dammmmm Twinx, he burned you! How the hell did I miss that one?!?!

    That was one of your best Thomm.

  98. Coemgen says:
    @John Johnson

    Yea well I don’t think most European men have that sweet spot.

    Success only requires there to be a “sweet spot” fraction of at least a minimum percentage (cf. the Pareto Principle 20%).

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  99. @mmack

    Chicago now has legalized marijuana and legalized video gambling machines. What sort of people benefit from this? How did the family of Governor Pritzker make their money? What outfit, so to speak, were they representing in the earlier part of the 20th Century?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  100. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    No, you’d crash the market – the whole selling point of diamonds is scarcity.

    That’s why there was a failed attempt to destroy Jupiter and keep diamonds scarce in 1994.

    It’s no coincidence that the comet was Shoemaker-Levy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Shoemaker%E2%80%93Levy_9

    Over the next six days, 21 distinct impacts were observed, with the largest coming on July 18 at 07:33 UTC when fragment G struck Jupiter. This impact created a giant dark spot over 12,000 km or 7,500 mi (almost one Earth diameter) across, and was estimated to have released an energy equivalent to 6,000,000 megatons of TNT (600 times the world’s nuclear arsenal).

  101. Muggles says:
    @J.Ross

    I quote Moon of Alabama

    This has been “Moon of Volga” for some time. (I thought the actual name was “Moon Over Alabama” anyway.)

    Just one of the pro Putin websites Lew Rockwell loves on his blog site.

    For some libertarians, oddly, hating the US govt. means loving the Russian one.

    Of course no one has yet met any actual Russian libertarians. Long extinct after a brief post Soviet blooming.

    Putin has yet to chime in about his libertarian fanboys. Of course, they are all Americans.

  102. @Technite78

    At 1,300 and counting illegal marijuana stores, there are now more illegal marijuana stores in New York City than there are pizzerias!!! Think about that. There are half as many illegal marijuana stores as there are pharmacies in the city. This exponential growth all happened in one year!

    I wonder if the illegal stores were permitted to prop up commercial real estate. The real power in New York is the real estate industry, adding 1,300 new retail leases has to help out the bottom line in a shaky street retail leasing market.

    • Replies: @Barnard
  103. @AnotherDad

    For example, the Korean POS at Virginia Tech 15 years back. He’d have been a loon and a loser back in Korea. But being a “fish-out-water” surrounded by all these white girls who had zero interest in him probably didn’t help.

    No need to speculate about the White girls.

    He wrote about the vanity of White men that did well with women and how charlatans had corrupted the university.

    He targeted an engineering heavy building instead of his fellow English majors. Ironically he was a terrible writer and never should have been accepted. Definitely an Affirmative Action case and he probably knew it. The Universities will lower the standards for ESL undergrads even if they are Asian and male. I once read a thesis from an ESL grad and it was a jumbled mess. The ESL students provide a steady paycheck and the Universities will look the other way on certain degrees.

    But I don’t think his case or the recent ones should be given much analysis. They are still rare and two elderly Asian shooters are most likely not part of a pattern.

    Most Asian shooters will fall into the incel category like the Virginia Tech shooter and the half-Asian supreme gentlemen.

    I honestly feel bad for a lot of Asian men. That doesn’t justify violent actions but they do have a hard time in the dating market unless they are very secure in a profession. They have to be an engineer or go home.

    • Replies: @Truth
    , @PhysicistDave
  104. Anon[206] • Disclaimer says:

    Now new stereotype: Quiet Asian man. Fuck around…and find out!😮

  105. Rob says:

    I have read that old Japanese men have a higher murder rate than young ones. I don’t know if this is cultural, the bonsai generation, or if there was a massive selective sweep, but I wonder at these old Asian shooters.

    Are the sort of white, black, and Hispanic men who’d go on a mass shooting in their seventies the sort of people who die young or spend their whole lives in prison, but Asians are more risk averse, so that kind of guy is not in prison?

    What about previous selection, though? Selection changes the phenotype of younger people faster. It’s a truism that natural selection on seventy-year-olds does not have a big phenotypic effect, just cuz they don’t have lots of kids. Maybe the selection for rice farming domestication changed the phenotype of younger Asians, but they age into a more independent and violent old age?

    Also, we need to do something to keep Asian immivaders from bringing their parents. Expecting people in their sixties or older to adjust to a new culture is just lunacy. Lots of immigrants in their twenties never assimilate. What attachments does a Vietnamese guy in his seventies have to any American community? Lots of older Americans are lonely and isolated. Why do we let in anyone over thirty? I’d maybe make exceptions for maybe Norwegians, but anyone in middle age or older who has so few attachments where he lives that he’d uproot himself for “the American dream” should set off alarm bells.

    I remember there was a fifty or so year-old Pakistani who was shot driving for Uber Eats. He moved here a couple of years ago. Why are we importing elderly third-worlders?

  106. @J.Ross

    the Chinese equivalent of Tabasco sauce

    Lao Gaan Ma is chili oil and chili crisp – and usually some other ingredient, like crisped black beans; crisped eschallots; or crsiped peanuts.

    It’s awesome stuff.

    Tabasco is OK on heuvos rancheros (a mi manera), but there’s no subtlety – I only use it if I’m out of Sriracha.

    • Agree: Coemgen
    • Replies: @J.Ross
  107. @John Johnson

    Polls show that a majority of Americans support an assault weapons ban even though most gun violence is among Blacks and involves handguns.

    That’s because the news media has been captured by the organized money (Bloomberg, Soros, foundations, Cosmopolitans) and shamelessly pushes Gun Control, continuously being rebranded for the nitwits (Today, they parrot “GUN REFORMS” or “GUN SAFETY.”).

    The Chicago television stations have continuously since July 4, 2022 milked the Highland Park, IL parade murders to destroy Gun Rights in Illinois. WGN-TV must have a Red Phone in the news room connected directly to Gun Control Central – that would be the Northern Suburbs of Chicago. The other TV stations following up. One TV station even had a report on Pritzker’s Assault Weapon ban legislation and at the end, the BLACK! male reporter said “HOPEFULLY” the ban would succeed.

    Unless you listen to talk radio, there are NO pro-gun media impressions that are generated through passive activities.

  108. @Muggles

    MoA has some interesting (and new to me, and I’m sure to most people here) details about todays arrests/resignations, which are being spun in media like the Guardian as anti-corruption measures.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/24/zelenskiy-anti-corruption-drive-15-ukrainian-officials-exit

    I urge people to be careful with corruption allegations in Ukraine. These often come from the extralegal National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU). The bureau was setup in 2014, after the Maidan coup. It was created and controlled by the U.S. embassy. NABU was used in various power plays to remove people who the embassy disliked.

    In 2020 the supreme court of Ukraine ruled that NABU was outside of the law and should not have the investigative powers it assumed. This came after NABU had investigated several supreme court judges in anti-corruption cases. That fight between two camps of power in Ukraine led to a constitutional crisis.

    A year later Zelensky fired the leading supreme court judge who had written the opinion on NABU. The judge appealed the decision and the court took his side. The conflict remains unresolved. The judge fled to Austria where he is now threatened with arrest under a Ukrainian warrant.

    There are many such little reported power plays in Kiev …

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/01/ukraine-sitrep-no-southern-push-yet-kiev-government-trouble-tanks-and-escalation.html#more

    People talk about “Putin’s Byzantine court” and the struggles therein. This seems pretty Byzantine to me.

    Now of course in the 150th (out of 180, 180 being the most corrupt) country in the corruption league, these people may well be corrupt. But they may not be being fired for being corrupt.

    (A little aside on crooks and patriotism. The most effective resistance to the Germans in occupied Cyprus, IIRC, came from the island’s criminal gangs.)

  109. anonymous[175] • Disclaimer says:
    @Muggles

    I don’t get people like you. Don’t you realize that 1980 style small-d democrats would be against the Nuland regime even if Russia were run by some faceless committee?

    • Replies: @Muggles
  110. @Muggles

    For some libertarians, oddly, hating the US govt. means loving the Russian one.

    It shows the corrupt nature of the ideology.

    If you think full auto machine guns for Black felons and legal heroin will improve America then cozying up with a Russian dictator isn’t much of a jump. You’re already working from crazyland.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    , @Muggles
  111. @HammerJack

    What happened to Tiny Dick?

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  112. Truth says:
    @John Johnson

    I honestly feel bad for a lot of Asian men. That doesn’t justify violent actions but they do have a hard time in the dating market unless they are very secure in a profession. They have to be an engineer or go home

    I’m going to tell Twinkie to come on and check you again with the 14 graphs he has saved in his folder titled; “No, Honkees don’t get more tang than us!”

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  113. Jay Fink says:

    We had a mass shooting today at a Circle K store here in Yakima Washington. This city is half Hispanic, more if you count illegals, but the shooter was a young white man. He killed 3 and is still at large.

    • Replies: @prosa123
  114. Yahya says:
    @J.Ross

    Stereotypical suggestion, open to a correction: East Asian cultures have this intense pressure which often but not always yields world-beating results, but also sometimes generates people who cannot take it, hence the Chinese maternity ward knifings and our shooters.

    That 3 random Asians committed mass shootings doesn’t tell you anything about East Asian people or culture.

    It’s just not a statistically significant sample to infer anything about millions/billions of people.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  115. @epebble

    ‘I am trying to understand the consequences of “illegal marijuana grow operations.” Besides providing cheap pot to consumers, what harm do they do? Marijuana has been legalized in many states now with no noticeable change in ‘business’. The only change I see are many small cannabis stores here in Oregon.’

    Heavy marijuana use seems to contribute to schizophrenia among young males — and I have seen some evidence that this is so.

    It’s all chic, and somehow it became ‘medicinal’ — ‘dispensaries’? — but is it actually good for people to smoke it all the time?

    Different question.

    • Replies: @epebble
  116. bomag says:
    @John Johnson

    Apt comment.

    There’s something useful about a head full of fantasies if it gets you to ride a sailing ship across an ocean.

    There’s something damaging about a head full of fantasies if one thinks Wakanda will emerge if just one more badthinker is cancelled.

  117. @John Johnson

    …Whites produce skeptics but far more True Believers are born.

    Being a true believer is easier. To get along, go along.

  118. @John Johnson

    Anyone inclined to take this Fed John Johnson seriously needs to look at this post in which he falsely and maliciously quoted me as having said something I simply did not say at all.

    What this lying bastard did was cut-and-pasted a statement posted by a White racist and falsely claimed that I had posted it.

    I pointed this out at the time.

    He did not retract it or admit what he did.

    John Johnson is a pathologically lying bastard.

    A typical Fed.

    Legally, the Fed committed libel. Open and shut.

    Does anyone think it is worth suing the bastard?

    I am going to start going back and attaching a version of this note to every post John Johnson has made.

  119. @John Johnson

    Anyone inclined to take this Fed John Johnson seriously needs to look at this post in which he falsely and maliciously quoted me as having said something I simply did not say at all.

    What this lying bastard did was cut-and-pasted a statement posted by a White racist and falsely claimed that I had posted it.

    I pointed this out at the time.

    He did not retract it or admit what he did.

    John Johnson is a pathologically lying bastard.

    A typical Fed.

    Legally, the Fed committed libel. Open and shut.

    Does anyone think it is worth suing the bastard?

    I am going to start going back and attaching a version of this note to every post John Johnson has made.

  120. Barnard says:
    @J.Ross

    According to your article, he was arrested after his license plate was flagged by a car tag reader in Miami Beach. I would have thought a Chinese national who murdered people after an illegal pot farm operation went sideways on him would have been smarter than to flee in his own car. You would think he would be more paranoid of the surveillance state than that.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  121. Barnard says:
    @clifford brown

    According to this article, the primary proponent of legal pot in the State Senate never considered the possibility people would brazenly sell pot in NYC after it was legalized without the proper licensing. Since no one has ever sold a product on the streets of Manhattan without the approval of the city and state before, this was a reasonable assumption by the genius Senator Liz Krueger. Her Twitter feed would have been believable as satire a few years ago. Ukraine flag, wants to ban gas stoves, and post urging people to wear masks in December 2022.

    https://www.fox5ny.com/news/nypd-1300-illegal-marijuana-stores-in-nyc

  122. Anonymous[141] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Even in the smallest of villages there, they live in close-together buildings, not off by their small plots of land. (That’s what I’ve seen, anyway.)

    Isn’t that because of the need to use all flat land for rice cultivation? I lived in Korea for a bit and that was the case. Big towns had high rises and every available flat area seemed to be rice paddy.

  123. Farenheit says:
    @J.Ross

    This follows complaints from Hong Kong Chinese that mainlanders focus on one thing, ruin it, and then move on to the next one thing.

    So the Americanization of their culture continues apace…

  124. Hodag says:

    Wasn’t Half Moon Bay part of the clambake?

  125. @Supply and Demand

    The end goal is to become the corrupt bureaucrat, which is a beautiful thing indeed.

    Sure, that attitude goes along with it. You seem to have assimilated pretty well to the idea of family first, and screw everybody else, I guess your rich in-laws make this easy for you.

    Thing is, that’s not the general innate White people mentality. Perhaps you still have some of those aspirations though – do any of your Chinese in-laws say anything when you dress up in that sleek red and gold silk dress, running like the watercolors in the rain… Don’t bother asking for explanations (no, I sure as hell won’t!), he’ll just tell you that he transitioned … in the Year of the Rabbit…

    • LOL: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  126. @Rusty Tailgate

    I’m not so sure how liberty-minded the followers of Chiang were either… they just didn’t want any part of the Communist stupidity. There was one big example out there already, of what not to do if you don’t like living in misery. Then you had a few hundred million other dumb fucks …

  127. @Muggles

    Muggles wrote to J.Ross:

    For some libertarians, oddly, hating the US govt. means loving the Russian one.

    America is sexually mutilating children who are confused about their “gender.”

    A country that does that should not be allowed to survive.

    • Agree: J.Ross
    • Replies: @Muggles
  128. @Rusty Tailgate

    From its founding, Taiwan operated under martial law until 1987. Political liberty was not a priority in Taiwan until the gay pride parades started up.

  129. @J.Ross

    J.Ross wrote to YetAnotherAnon:

    Regarding the Donbas militias, I quote Moon of Alabama…

    Bernhard at Moon of Alabama has posted a follow-up in which he stated:

    I was wrong. I, and other analysts following the war, had been deceived by the sudden rush of news from that frontline. It said that Russian forces made progress in a large number of towns. But nearly as soon as I had published my peace that news died down. In the following days nothing happened but the usual exchange of artillery fire and minor local clashes.

    I am not sure what happened. But the Ukrainian army also seemed to have believed that something big was coming as it had rushed an additional mechanized brigade to that line.

    This actually speaks well of Bernhard.

    One of the reasons I take him seriously is that he is willing to post a follow-up like this admitting to a misjudgment.

    And it makes a crucially important broader point: none of us knows in detail what is happening in Ukraine.

    The thuggish hasbara operatives who comment here — HAsbara, Jack D, John Johnson, etc. — never admit to being wrong, no matter how bizarrely and maliciously egregious the falsehoods they post.

    As I have said many times, I myself did indeed think Ukraine would fold faster: I underestimated Putin, thinking he would be far more ruthless than he proved to be, and I overestimated Zelensky, failing to understand how eager he would be to throw away his countrymen’s lives at the command of his neocon handlers in the US Deep State.

    What we do know, of course, is that the puppet regime in Kiev cannot defeat the Russian Federation on the battlefield. Their only hope is that Russia will get sick of the whole thing and choose to withdraw, which seems increasingly unlikely.

  130. @Achmed E. Newman

    he’ll just tell you that he transitioned … in the Year of the Rabbit…

    These days, he says, I feel my life
    Just like-a livah lunning thloo

  131. SafeNow says:

    O/T. If a worker doing a fast job at my house calls me “boss,” does this mean he has been to prison?
    This happened to me recently and it has happened several times before. Hispanic workers. California. What got me thinking about this is that I recently viewed the excellent BBC miniseries “Time” in which Sean Bean portrays a sensitive teacher who finds himself in prison because of a drunk-driving offense. The prisoners uniformly close any voicing to a guard with the word “boss.” Alternatively, is the worker at my house simply showing respect to someone who is paying the bill, is older, and is seen to be of higher rank…Hispanic parlance that is equivalent to “sir” in the military, giving a nod to higher rank.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  132. @CopCityAtl

    demand easy access to guns, Asian people wouldn’t shoot each other.

    California does not provide easy access to guns. Nor does Cuba; please emigrate to Cuba ASAP to relieve your fevered mind about guns.

  133. @Shamu

    Shamu wrote to J.Ross

    At some point, gangs of Asians are going to decide they have had enough go sacred cow blacks, and they will then make deals with Mexicans and whatever whites have enough gas left in the tank, and they are going to explode on scared cow blacks and the handlers and backers of the sacred cows. It never is the screw two that is the real problem. The real problems that must be corrected is always who made the cow sacred and keeps enforcing its sacredness.

    The move towards Black “reparations” could help trigger that.

    As I have mentioned before, we have an African-American lady who lives across the street, who happens to be a conservative Republican (though not a Trump supporter). She has the good sense to oppose the reparations idiocy. It can only inflame racial relations in this country, to the ultimate detriment of Black folks.

    It is going to be interesting to see how many Blacks have the sense to grasp this.

  134. J.Ross says:
    @clifford brown

    House Pritzker makes drones, which is an awfully convenient speciality to have in a dying empire that constantly deploys drones.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  135. @Curle

    The pre-14th Amendment constitution did not control state regulation of guns.

    The antebellum Supreme Court of Georgia would take issue with you on this point:

    Nunn v State 1 Ga. 243 (1846)

    This law banned white men from possessing pistols. It lasted nine years.

    the War of Northern Aggression

    Those who favor this expression should be forced to take their Negroes back. And banned from freeing the indigent ones, as was the law pre-1866. Support ’em for life.

  136. @AceDeuce

    If our ancestors’ cucked descendants didn’t allow non-Whites over here…

    What do you mean, descendants? It was those ancestors themselves who initiated non-white immigration.

    1619 was the proto-1964.

    • Agree: Post-Postmodernist
    • Replies: @Corn
  137. @puttheforkdown

    puttheforkdown wrote sarcastically to Twinkie:

    I agree, these guys should be happy their daughters are throwing their bloodline away.

    Human beings are not show dogs or racehorses who have “bloodlines.”

    puttheforkdown also wrote:

    Imagine if genetic relatedness and other factors informed by our evolutionary history have primed human beings to be clannish and care about who our family members mate and affiliate with?

    I assume that you are of West European descent, as am I. We may well not share a common ancestor going back ten generations.

    Do a standard calculation for “inclusive fitness,” and your and my degree of “genetic relatedness” is essentially zero.

    The famous biologist J. B. S. Haldane supposedly said:

    Would I lay down my life to save my brother? No, but I would to save two brothers or eight cousins.

    For you and me, that would have to be something like a million guys like you before I would lay down my life.

    You guys try to pretend that you are talking hard-nosed biology.

    You’re not.

    You’re just talking pseudo-science.

    In any biological sense, you simply do not matter to me or to most other Caucasians.

    At all.

    • Replies: @adreadline
    , @John Johnson
  138. @Rob

    I have read that old Japanese men have a higher murder rate than young ones.

    Do you have data for this assertion? The table shows from top to bottom the ratio (倍率) of juvenile (少年) to adult (成人) crime rate for Japan 日, US 美, Germany 德, France 法, Sweden 瑞典, Russia 俄

    Japan is the only country where juveniles commit more crimes than adults (1.45 times)

    * No data for China, the ratio may be closer to US’s than Japan’s

    ** The tweet account is a Japanese woman, she’s being very PC and attributes it to culture and education

    • Thanks: Rob
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @bomag
  139. SOL says:
    @usNthem

    Hits to shots fired ratio? Who needs to study batting averages any more…

    • Thanks: Rob
  140. @CopCityAtl

    I guess you feel the same way about when Blacks shoot each other.

  141. @Twinkie

    These kinds of rampages are sadly common in PRC, absence of firearms. This the other day by a 22-yr scion of a big shot CCP official, killed 5 and injured 13.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/11/china/china-guangzhou-car-crash-intl-hnk/index.html

    The Chinese internet meme for this is “Xianzhong” 献忠, attributing to an especially depraved peasant rebel at the end of the Ming dynasty, as the Manchus were approaching, decided to take down as many civilians as possible with him,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Xianzhong

    The actual veracity of Zhang’s story is debatable. But there’s no doubt that there were others like him in Chinese history.

  142. Corn says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    People always say if time travel existed they’d travel back in time and kill Hitler. I wouldn’t do that. Old Dolf deserves it, but plenty of time travelers would beat me to it.

    If time travel was real I’d go back and kill the first slave trader to set foot on US soil

    • Replies: @Coemgen
  143. prosa123 says:
    @Jay Fink

    We had a mass shooting today at a Circle K store here in Yakima Washington. This city is half Hispanic, more if you count illegals, but the shooter was a young white man. He killed 3 and is still at large.

    Shot himself.

  144. @Technite78

    but there’s probably a good reason why there aren’t any 100% Chinese designed-and-built cars, aircraft, major appliances being sold in the West (as opposed to Japan and Korea).

    This I’m afraid is only ephemeral,

    TOKYO/BEIJING — China is the undisputed champion in artificial intelligence research papers, a Nikkei study shows, far surpassing the U.S. in both quantity and quality.

    https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/China-tech/China-trounces-U.S.-in-AI-research-output-and-quality

    BYD will initially sell its e-cars at two German locations. However, the distribution network is expected to grow rapidly. We spoke to importer boss Lars Pauly about the Chinese plans for Germany.

    https://www.automobil-industrie.vogel.de/wie-byd-deutschland-erobern-will-a-aac6dd35b1f4a2d3e2577a8cba1ee7b7/

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  145. Thomm says:
    @Twinkie

    I think this says more about you than “these old Asian dudes.”

    Peterike is the resident anti-Asian specialist. You know that. You have been avoiding him on TUR for a decade, like two bishops of different colors on a chessboard. Proximate but never meeting.

    But at some point, the anti-Asian specialist (Peterike) is going to clash with the obsessively pro-Asian advocate who can’t go 72 hours without saying how much the US benefits from East Asian immigration.

    But these unusual Asian-on-Asian shooting incidents have thrown Mr. Twinkacetti’s frame off-kilter, so now he is on the precipice of an epic meltdown (perhaps not unlike what the shooters experienced before their rampage). A decade of Peterike and Twinkie avoiding each other studiously may come to an end momentarily.

    Mr. Twinkacetti (aka ‘Vladimir’ aka ‘Gary Gygax’s Oriental Adventures’ aka ‘Bastian Balthazar Bux’) is at a disadvantage at this stage because the epic humor in my Comment #26 already has him reeling. That is going to leave a mark.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  146. Jack D says:
    @Technite78

    there aren’t any 100% Chinese designed-and-built cars, aircraft, major appliances being sold in the West (as opposed to Japan and Korea)

    The Koreans and the Japanese have Western input also, especially when it comes to styling:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/nargessbanks/2021/08/27/exclusive-insight-genesis-chief-creative-officer-luc-donckerwolke-discusses-the-new-brand/?sh=4d3b370259b5

    Toyota has had a design studio in California since 1973:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calty_Design_Research

    Etc.

    As cars shift to electric, expect to see more Chinese cars.

    You are making distinctions that are not real. China basically started from nothing in 1972. They have made remarkable strides in 50 years. Their GDP per capita in 1970 was $113, as recently as 20 years ago it was under $1,200, today it is over $12,000 (and their total GDP is within spitting distance of the US – no other country comes close. Things are far from perfect and Xi has been a step backwards but no other country has achieved this type of extraordinary growth.

  147. J.Ross says:
    @Barnard

    Maybe. Considering (1) their reason for being here and (2) the reputation we have recently earned, he probably thought America is as lawless as Mexico.

  148. J.Ross says:
    @CopCityAtl

    Asian organized crime exists. The origin of Californian anti-Chinese sentiment was Tongs shooting into buildings without aiming properly.

  149. anon[181] • Disclaimer says:

    Maybe it’s his guilty conscience. He knows he and his coworkers are brought in to grow drugs that harm people, and so none deserve to live. Did he get the boss though? What a waste if he didn’t. The guy will just bring in more illegal workers to grow his marijuana, doesn’t even have to pay any insurance or workers’ comp.

  150. @PeterIke

    PeterIke wrote:

    Maybe these old Asian dudes are angry that all their daughters are marrying white guys and spitting out 1.7 ugly little happa babies, forever breaking the genetic line…

    What is this “genetic line”: must be some new scientific term in population genetics I never heard about, eh?

  151. J.Ross says:
    @SafeNow

    Tell me — does this person wear a baseball cap? Gang signals may be contained in the way he flips, bends, or leaves straight the bill (which on the street is called a “stick”). The color of his shoes is also meaningful.

  152. Mr. Anon says:
    @J.Ross

    House Pritzker makes drones, which is an awfully convenient speciality to have in a dying empire that constantly deploys drones.

    “House Pritzker”. A good way of describing them. Sort of like “House Harkonnen”.

  153. danand says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    “Wouldn’t most “Latinas” at a once-tony school mostly be “white Hispanic”?”

    You well could be right, the deceased (bless his soul) name, Mario Navarro, suggests that case.

    “Oakland police said officers were investigating a ShotSpotter activation…” Nobody called the police though there where 40 to 50 people at the music video shoot when gunfire broke out.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/update-one-killed-in-oakland-mass-shooting-at-video-shoot-3rd-mass-shooting-in-california-in-3-days/ar-AA16FQcI

  154. danand says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “The superstition thing is, yeah, pretty stupid. I mean, Americans don’t… …Come on! Leave that shit in China.”

    “Eye-Tal-E-Ann Americans” too I guess, at least one of them:

    “Nancy Pelosi held EXORCISM at her San Francisco mansion to try and banish ‘evil spirits’ after husband Paul was attached by a hammer-wielding intruder”

    nanc

    Nancy (center) during her recent Italy vacation (prior to husband Paul’s hamstering hammering).

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11661885/Nancy-Pelosi-held-EXORCISM-San-Francisco-mansion-try-banish-evil-spirits.html

    Had me laughing on my lapel.

  155. Coemgen says:
    @Corn

    If time travel was real I’d go back and kill the first slave trader to set foot on US soil

    Yeah, but then another one would popup.

    Then another, and another, etc.

    You would get more bang-for-your-buck by cutting off the head rather than the appendages.

  156. BB753 says:
    @danand

    I doubt she had a Catholic exorcism ritual ( performed either by a priest or by the head of the house, that is Paul – yes there’s an actual DIY Roman Catholic household ritual to exorcise demons). Most elites are into witchcraft, juju and occultism.
    BTW, are Nancy Pelosi’s boobs real?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  157. @PhysicistDave

    Human beings are not show dogs or racehorses who have “bloodlines.”

    Hmmm… things are getting confusing here, in the midst of all those sardonic comments. Just so that the truth doesn’t get all disoriented and lost, as well, it should be said: of course human beings have bloodlines.

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bloodline

    https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/bloodline

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bloodline

    https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/bloodline

    [MORE]

    (Someone has to go ackshually)

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  158. bomag says:
    @Rob

    Good point about the immigration of older people. Highlights the bait-and-switch feature of the immigration debate.

    It’s a truism that natural selection on seventy-year-olds does not have a big phenotypic effect, just cuz they don’t have lots of kids.

    Vector might be seventy year olds arranging marriages; selecting for those who carry ambition into their later years.

  159. bomag says:
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    A bit misleading, in that the general peak crime years are 18-25, with a large tapering off after age 40.

    Would want to see rates by age decile.

  160. Jack D says:
    @BB753

    According to the quoted article,

    ‘Over Thanksgiving, [Pelosi] had priests coming, trying to have an exorcism of the house and having prayer services.’

    Whether it was a bona fide official Catholic exorcism ritual or not, the point is that for a Westerner to accuse Chinese of being superstitious, believing in astrology, etc. is what we used to call “the pot calling the kettle black” except you’re not allowed to say that anymore. Apparently, Nancy Reagan wouldn’t let Ronnie cross the street without consulting with her astrologer first, after he was shot.

    Belief in soothsayers, spirits, bad omens, etc. is common to pretty much all human cultures. Even the Climate Cult is a form of religion – on a base level, believers think that we have displeased the gods with our excessively sumptuous lifestyle and the gods are going to take revenge on us. You can dress this up with “science” but that’s the root of the belief (before we had Global Warming we had Global Cooling – the gods were going to freeze us to death as their revenge instead of boil us).

    There are many things that happen to us that are inexplicable and humans are programmed to see patterns and not randomness so it is natural to infer that there is some conscious force that is causing stuff to happen to us and not just a whole bunch of randomness. The human mind can’t just buy into “shit happens” and leave it at that – we are always looking for explanations and if no good explanations are forthcoming, we invent them anyway.

    • Replies: @BB753
  161. @Thomm

    … two bishops of different colors on a chessboard.

    2 bishops on different color squares, you mean. Carry on.

  162. J.Ross says:
    @Yahya

    Wrong number. Mass shooters are often, rather often, East Asian. Within East Asian countries there are rage incidents like an angry Chinese guy — again, this didn’t just happen once — entering a maternity ward to stab babies. I am not talking about this month’s events but all of them.

  163. @danand

    Is Mr. Pelosi still attached to that hammer or the intruder thereholding? How about the gerbils? They are mostly what I’m concerned about in this story.

    Also, was there projectile vomiting? If there’s no projectile vomiting, it’s not a REAL exorcism. Plus, it could help Mrs. Pelosi lose a few lb to look better at the beach next time. Hubba, hubba!

    Never you mind the subtitles that don’t match the clip at all.

  164. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    China is the undisputed champion in artificial intelligence research papers

    This means less than nothing when the very stupid about this sort of thing Party decreed minimum quotas on publishing papers. There’s whole fields like x-ray crystallography of proteins where the rest of the world has learned to ignore all papers coming from the PRC.

  165. @J.Ross

    Mostly Japanese I assume. (That data looks mostly plausible, but the Sweden vs. Russia comparison looks off)

    The main source of vibrance in Japan these days is– Chinese, now the biggest minority group,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_of_Japan

  166. @Coemgen

    Yea well I don’t think most European men have that sweet spot.

    Success only requires there to be a “sweet spot” fraction of at least a minimum percentage (cf. the Pareto Principle 20%).

    Yes and we don’t have that sweet spot. We live in f-cking clown town. The skeptics are currently regulated to the backwoods of the internet while the frauds are given awards and tenure for their dishonesty.

    Is it more likely that clown town will be challenged in America instead of Brazil?

    Yes but it is still a frustrating situation where academia, government and the media all pretend to think when they are no different than the people of the emperor’s new clothes.

  167. @Truth

    I honestly feel bad for a lot of Asian men. That doesn’t justify violent actions but they do have a hard time in the dating market unless they are very secure in a profession. They have to be an engineer or go home

    I’m going to tell Twinkie to come on and check you again with the 14 graphs he has saved in his folder titled; “No, Honkees don’t get more tang than us!”

    They get tang once they show their engineering or doctor papers.

    Women are basically Nazis before any dates occur.

    PAPERS PLEASE

    VER IS YOUR ENGINEERING DEGREE FROM?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  168. J.Ross says:
    @Kratoklastes

    I am grateful for your correction and recognize that it was a bad comparison, I merely wanted to give the average reader something with which to quickly sort.

  169. J.Ross says:
    @John Johnson

    This isn’t even being a fed, this is — dude, what the hell?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  170. @PhysicistDave

    Human beings are not show dogs or racehorses who have “bloodlines.”

    It’s not a subjective definition that you can question as if it was made up here.

    : a sequence of direct ancestors especially in a pedigree
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bloodline

    Humans have a sequence of direct ancestors.

    So yes they have bloodlines.

    What are you even doing here? Shouldn’t you be writing the president about how Federal agents are after you on the internet?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  171. @J.Ross

    This isn’t even being a fed, this is — dude, what the hell?

    This thread is proof that egalitarian gene distribution is liberal fantasy.

    You and PhysicistDave clearly don’t have a bloodline with a sense of humor.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  172. Anon[148] • Disclaimer says:

    Elderly people going postal is rather crazy. You think they would have gotten rid of that urge when they were young. Asians are taught to revere elders, but in American culture that reverence is missing, and the elderly Asian ego becomes enraged at this lack of respect and lashes out.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @J.Ross
  173. @adreadline

    adreadline wrote to me:

    Hmmm… things are getting confusing here, in the midst of all those sardonic comments. Just so that the truth doesn’t get all disoriented and lost, as well, it should be said: of course human beings have bloodlines.

    Well… I take your point.

    But I assume that you will agree with me that the term is normally used to refer to racehorses, show dogs, etc. and not human beings –largely because we do not breed human beings as we breed dogs and horses.

    In any case, the jerk I was responding to talked about humans “throwing their bloodline away,” which is at best meaningless. To say he is merely an idiot would be overly kind.

  174. @John Johnson

    The evil lying thug “John Johnson” wrote to me:

    What are you even doing here? Shouldn’t you be writing the president about how Federal agents are after you on the internet?

    Well, you said you wanted me to sue you, so I am waiting for you to give your actual name and address so that I can move forward.

    Or don’t you really want me to sue you, Fed?

  175. @John Johnson

    The pathologically lying thug John Johnson wrote to J.Ross:

    You and PhysicistDave clearly don’t have a bloodline with a sense of humor.

    Six weeks ago, you claimed that I had written some viciously racist words that I did not write.

    I complained about it — quite loudly! — at the time, but you did not admit what you had done or retract the lie.

    Only after nearly six weeks of my exposing you for what you are did you finally admit it, sort of.

    And your admission was not an apology but consisted of further vitriol directed at me.

    No, I have no sense of humor about that sort of lying. None at all.

    The world would be a better place if you would go out and buy a bottle of sleeping pills and simply do the right thing.

    You are an evil, lying thug.

    And, as long as you choose to stick around here, I am going to continue exposing you for what you are. For decades, if you stay around that long.

    You are an evil, lying thug who has a bizarre appetite for mass murder.

  176. Anonymous[146] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    This is an important cultural difference which can lead to unpleasant misunderstandings. I remember reading about a western woman in Japan who thought it was cute to let her kid walk up to random strangers and wish them a good day in Japanese. Most ignored him, but one of the elderly ones whacked him, which greatly shocked her.

    Of course, it’s hugely disrespectful to impose yourself on strangers like this, especially a child on adults. ‘Children should be seen but not heard’ is still the expected behavior in Asian countries.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  177. Muggles says:
    @anonymous

    Don’t you realize that 1980 style small-d democrats would be against the Nuland regime even if Russia were run by some faceless committee?

    The “Nuland” regime as you call it was elected by a majority of Ukrainians. As Putin was by a majority of Russians.

    Neither was open, free or fair, but roughly so.

    You don’t have to “favor” Zelensky to oppose Putin’s crazy idea that he is “reunifying” Russia despite years of separation and signed acknowledged treaties.

    Libertarians as a group don’t support “revanchism” or “irredentism” .

    Per Google: What is the difference between irredentism and revanchism?

    Revanchism is the political policy of endeavouring to regain lost territory while irredentism is a doctrine advocating annexation of foreign lands by a country with historic or ethnic links.

    Aside from reflexively being opposed to US government policy, there is no good libertarian argument for supporting a military invasion of Ukraine by Russia.

    American libertarians don’t support “54-40 or fight” regarding Canada either. Even though the Trudeau government is authoritarian and only partly democratic.

  178. Muggles says:
    @PhysicistDave

    America is sexually mutilating children who are confused about their “gender.”

    A country that does that should not be allowed to survive.

    As a response to my post about why some foolish libertarians seem to support the Russian invasion of Ukraine, this is a particularly bad reply.

    It has zero to do with the topic of Russia being a more moral choice than Ukraine in the current war.

    Does PhysicistDave here think the sole criteria for a nation’s existence be the legality of “gender reassignment surgery” for minors? How odd? I suspect neither Russia nor Ukraine are as liberal as are a few (few!) American states on this subject. So in our topic at hand, this isn’t an argument.

    Nor do I think the existence of some bad laws or allowed practices should be the sole basis to judge an entire nation’s “survival.” That rhetoric is, if I might suggest, “Hitlerian” and not libertarian.

    Okay, it was a late night post and you were cranky. But still, you need to recant.

    If you have some pro Putin argument to make, make it.

  179. Muggles says:
    @John Johnson

    I agree with PhysicistDave here on “John Johnson’s” bona fides.

    Whoever you are and whatever purpose you have, you should go elsewhere.

    Your silly comments and ugly insults are not needed here.

  180. epebble says:
    @Colin Wright

    Negative effects of cannabis legalization have been somewhat muted. What seems to have definitely become a dumpster fire is the follow-on Measure 110. There is general agreement that it has created a mess.

    https://www.portlandmercury.com/news/2023/01/19/46307850/success-of-measure-110-remains-in-question-according-to-state-audit

    • Thanks: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @J.Ross
  181. @Muggles

    I find John Johnson entertaining.

  182. @Muggles

    Were you offended by my comment about libertarians?

    Libertarians support full auto machine guns for Black felons and legal heroin. They also support open borders. It’s in their platform at lp.org and is ratified annually by thousands of members.

    Take it up with them if you don’t like it.

    If verifiable facts bother you so much then you and PhysicistDave can find another blog.

    You guys both get emotional over dissenting viewpoints.

  183. @Bill Jones

    Nothing really. He’ll be back soon enough.

  184. @danand

    Gotta hand it to her. Not only is she reasonably well-preserved (reconstructed I mean) for an 80 year old, she’s still very savvy with photo ops. Sandwiches herself between two repulsive land whales to make herself look better.

  185. J.Ross says:
    @epebble

    Wow, they got everything wrong every step of the way. Democrats can be simplified as people who see government as a way of creating an income for themselves.

  186. J.Ross says:
    @Anon

    I disagree, the incidents are all in-community and not lashing out at the Americans who suckerpunch them.

  187. BB753 says:
    @Jack D

    You don’t understand, exorcism is a holy rite. It’s not juju. For a Roman Catholic or an Orthodox Christian, it’s almost on par with holy communion, confession, marriage, etc.
    When you are baptised, the sacrament includes exorcism.
    There are also prayers that the head of the household can recite to chase the demons away, although a priest is more qualified. It includes heavy use of Holy Water.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  188. Jack D says:
    @BB753

    “Your religion is a cult. My religion is the True Religion.”

    Anything that involves splashing a lot of water around and reciting incantations to chase away the demons is juju by definition. For all I know, voodoo worships rank their anti-demon ritual among the Top Ten of their religion also.

    • Replies: @BB753
    , @Colin Wright
  189. Truth says:
    @Muggles

    J.J, it’s time to put out your torch… and leave the island.

  190. BB753 says:
    @Jack D

    No, voodoo or any other kind of chamanic practice usually includes the chaman entering a trance. He wants to be posessed. Then do his stuff.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  191. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    The Japanese are very hesitant to speak to strangers. It’s “just not done” in their culture. Most wouldn’t react violently but they almost all will be nonplussed.

    Someone did a survey asking people whether they speak with the people who are sitting next to them on an airplane. 60% of Indians said they would. Latinos were also very gregarious. Only 15% of Japanese said that they would initiate a conversation with a seatmate:

    https://japantoday.com/category/features/lifestyle/japanese-people-least-likely-to-talk-to-strangers-or-offer-help-on-airplanes-survey-finds

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  192. Jack D says:
    @BB753

    I don’t purport to be an expert on voodoo, but this article claims that voodoo priests perform exorcisms:

    https://hwpi.harvard.edu/pluralismarchive/news/voodoo-priest-north-london-speaks-exorcisms

    Maybe there is some meaningful distinction between voodoo exorcisms and the Catholic kind, but it seems like the goals (the casting out of demons) seem to be pretty much the same.

    The Catholic Church used to be quite concerned with witchcraft. There are claims (probably exaggerated) that the Church burned millions of witches. (Of course, Protestant Churches did their own witch burning too). Naturally this is not something that they would prefer to talk about in a more enlightened age. Defenders of the Church say that “only” 50,000 witches were burned over a 400 year period but that’s still a significant number.

    • Replies: @BB753
    , @Colin Wright
  193. BB753 says:
    @Jack D

    Witchcraft and paganism were still pretty much alive in Northern Europe, because christianization of those lands was still recent even after the Reformation.

  194. @Jack D

    ‘Defenders of the Church say that “only” 50,000 witches were burned over a 400 year period but that’s still a significant number.’

    Meh. It’s a hundred a year. That compares favorably to the number of whites murdered every year by blacks, for example.

    They practiced their religion; we practice ours.

  195. @Jack D

    ‘Anything that involves splashing a lot of water around and reciting incantations to chase away the demons is juju by definition. For all I know, voodoo worships rank their anti-demon ritual among the Top Ten of their religion also.’

    How do you feel about passing all your sins into a chicken and then beating the chicken to death?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  196. @Jack D

    ‘The Japanese are very hesitant to speak to strangers. It’s “just not done” in their culture. Most wouldn’t react violently but they almost all will be nonplussed.’

    On the other hand, they will be extraordinarily helpful — almost absurdly so — if you ask them for directions.

    We once had some guy almost literally take us by the hand and lead us for twenty minutes across a city. Another time, one person after another got dragged into discussing where it was we wanted to go — I counted seven people at the height of it all. Then this old woman’s eyes lit up — and she led us off to the place we wanted.

    I actually started asking the police in kiosks for directions — not because I like cops, but simply because they physically couldn’t leave the kiosk. So all they could do was point me in the general direction — which was all I actually needed, as a rule.

  197. Jack D says:
    @Colin Wright

    How do you feel about passing all your sins into a chicken and then beating the chicken to death?

    That would be awful. However if the chicken was slaughtered in a kosher manner (by having its throat slit) and then the chicken was donated to poor people to eat, that seems pretty harmless. Unless you are opposed to kosher slaughter or slaughter of animals in general, which is a different discussion.

    What gave you the idea that kapores involved beating a chicken to death?

    Needless to say, most (non-Orthodox) American Jews don’t practice kapores and I have never engaged in the ritual. Although I have eaten many chickens in my lifetime (I’ll bet you have too), I have not once tried to pass my sins onto one.

  198. @Jack D

    How do you feel about Maine lobster tail?

    Not sure how you Jews can live without surf and turf.

    Also not sure how you can skip a cheeseburger with a milkshake.

  199. @Jack D

    ‘…Needless to say, most (non-Orthodox) American Jews don’t practice kapores and I have never engaged in the ritual. Although I have eaten many chickens in my lifetime (I’ll bet you have too), I have not once tried to pass my sins onto one…’

    Many Christians don’t sprinkle holy water around either — but you feel free to denigrate the entire faith as if they do.

    So you started in on Christianity — apparently felt quite free to do it, too. Let’s talk about about your faith instead. Aside from the religious significance of dead chickens, how about –say — the soul of a gentile. Is it closer to that of an animal or that of a human being?

    You wanted to go here. Here we are.

  200. @bomag

    Yeah that table is not clear, and 10x adult crime rate in Germany ドイツ than Japan 日本 looks off.

    This one looks about right, for firearm homicide per 100,000 in developed countries–

    US 米国, Chile チリ, Canada カナダ atop.

    The bottom six are Taiwan 台湾, Germany, Poland ポウランド, UK 英国, SK 韓国, and Japan.

    So Taiwan gun homicide rate is not that low.

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