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A problem facing the Chinese Communist Party is the question: What is Communism good for?

Increasingly, Xi Jinping’s answer appears to be that Communism is good for keeping the foreign devils from degenerating our culture.

From the Wall Street Journal:

At internal meetings, some of them say, Mr. Xi has talked about the need to differentiate China’s economic system. Western capitalism, in his view, focuses too heavily on the single-minded pursuit of profit and individual wealth, while letting big companies grow too powerful, leading to inequality, social injustice and other threats to social stability.

Early this year, when Facebook Inc. and Twitter Inc. took down former U.S. President Donald Trump’s accounts, Mr. Xi saw yet another sign America’s economic system was flawed—it let big business dictate what a political leader should do or say—officials familiar with his views said. …

Industries that Mr. Xi views as being led astray by a capitalist spirit, including not only tech but also after-school tutoring, digital gaming and entertainment, are bearing the immediate brunt.

 
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  1. Very interesting perspective that Mr. Xi has expressed in that quote. Of course there is a big component of institutional self-interest in Xi’s view, but also an important element of truth. Neither political-economic system is perfect, and the US/Western system is decaying quite rapidly IMHO. The Chinese system is much worse, but at least it is on an improving path.

    I wonder when the flow of Chinese ethnics will reverse direction. Probably the net difference in the directional flows has decreased?

  2. Anonymous[502] • Disclaimer says:

    He has a point!

  3. Thoughts says:

    So he’s a really good leader

  4. AndrewR says:

    “Western capitalism” is no longer about profit so much as it is about social control. If it were about profit then capitalists would never have allowed affirmative action to be enacted, to name one of many examples of capitalism no longer caring about profit.

  5. Anon[430] • Disclaimer says:

    What’s weird about this is that identifying “inequality” as a threat to social stability is itself an element of Western culture. It is an idea with no support from any historical period anywhere in the world; equality is much more likely to breed instability than inequality is.

    Of course, you can say much the same thing about communism.

  6. Western capitalism, in his view, focuses too heavily on the single-minded pursuit of profit and individual wealth, while letting big companies grow too powerful, leading to inequality, social injustice and other threats to social stability.

    Oh, c’mon man, Mr. Panda Bear. You speak of “inequality” and “social injustice.” ROTFLMFAO.

    Sure, your “social stability” phrase is believable. After all, we all know social stability is more important than individual thought or liberty. You and your people are masters of social stability.

    We congratulate you for seeing what is wrong with us, but we don’t condone your perspective. That is for you.

  7. Xi seems to be a better leader than any the West has had in the last 5 decades, Mrs Thatcher and Reagan included.

  8. Western Capitalism=Homosexual Pederasty

  9. Increasingly, Xi Jinping’s answer appears to be that Communism is good for keeping the foreign devils from degenerating our culture.

    In other words, North Korea wins again.

  10. Big companies can get away with what they do because of LACK of Capitalism, not Capitalism. We haven’t had anything close to free market Capitalism in most areas of endeavor since the 1970s. (Flea markets – that’s all I can think of right now!)

    The US has Crony Capitalism, Big Biz working in cahoots with The State. Big Biz pays The State to write the rules the way Big Biz wants it, that is, to squash all small business competition. Think of how corporatized most fields have gotten over the last 40 years.

    I’m not saying Winnie the Pooh over there operates the economy in a Communist way. They learned from the way that went over the 3-decade Mao era … till they forget, that is … He and the CCP are Totalitarians, though. In the same manner Communists have done throughout history, the way to get people on board with it all is to call out the ills in society and blame them on “Capitalism” rather than Big Gov Crony Capitalism, which is not very far from Fascism when you think about it.

  11. China has has a host of very serious problems, corruption and totalitarian sitting at the top of the list, but one hundred years from now China will still be Chinese. They will persevere.

    The same cannot be said for the once European lands and those lands once dominated by their diaspora. We are in a fight for our very existence as a people, an existence that many Europeans and European Americans – including perhaps Steve – seem unconcerned about.

    I wish Xi the best in his efforts to maintain his people and thus his culture.

  12. Our Commies are not like their Commies.

    We don’t really have Commies. We have bourgeois adventurist right deviationists.

    Whereas Chinese Commies are basically a much more authoritarian version of what Generalissimo Chiang Kai Shek was trying to do when they chased him out.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
  13. Cortes says:

    Haven’t The Chinese always been careful not to permit merchants to acquire political influence since their focus is usually on short-term gains which can produce instability? A few years ago I read a couple of brief histories (can’t recall the authors or titles) which suggested that experience (and if any polity has plenty of experience it’s the Chinese) had taught rulers to keep merchants on a short leash.

  14. tyrone says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “not very far from Fascism when you think about it.”……….how about spot on ,dead to rights fascism ,i.e. we live in a fascist country.

    • Agree: Spect3r
  15. peterike says:

    Good for them. Most of Xi’s new rules are eminently sensible, something any sane nation would do. It’s not as if the United States isn’t as oppressive as China. It’s probably more oppressive, only we use corporate power, mass shaming and cancel culture, and all in the service of extreme and ever worsening degeneracy. And of course under Biden, good old fashioned state oppression is growing by leaps and bounds.

    Xi is enforcing things that for the most part will make China stronger and a better place to live. The United States enforces things that do the exact opposite.

    • Agree: William Badwhite
    • Disagree: Corvinus
  16. @Achmed E. Newman

    I hate to say this but you are actually right, especially about flea markets and corporations.

    In the United States there is little real competition. For example if you want to buy a cell phone, you probably have to go to the store of the network provider, or maybe they will mail you one from online, or maybe you will even go indy and get one from Amazon and then hook up your service.

    In Guayaquil, Ecuador you could go to the central market area, where there are 100, or maybe even 200 cell phone vendors–there are so many that I had no possible way to count them–all competing for your attention–and you can get almost every kind of phone and accessory that you could think of except for Apple!

    One interesting sales technique is that they will first ask you how much you would like to spend on your phone, and then will offer you a phone at that price. Around \$130 seems to be the sweet spot for a phone with 64 GB of memory and fingerprint and facial recognition.

    And now you have got your cell phone, you can move on to the pharmacy area of the market where there are maybe 40 pharmacies all in the same place competing on drug prices. And you don’t need a doctor’s prescription for non narcotic drugs. (And you can buy ivermectin if you want it.)

    And now you go to the fish market where there are 100 numbered booths, about 90 of which are occupied, all selling the same seafood and pretty much competing on price and service.

    Xi for President!

    • Agree: Not Raul
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    , @Anon
  17. This post is just one post, and not an example of what I am going to talk about, but has there always been the type of person who is endlessly cynical about the politicians they know, yet unwaveringly credulous of those overseas? Are the number of people like this increasing? What drives them?

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Troll: John Gruskos
  18. Hodag says:

    China may be in the midst of real change with Evergrande. China may have made itself into 1990s Japan, without the wealth.

    I really know little about China but from afar the CCP looks like a Chinese domestic (non-foreign) dynasty. Dynasties fall when disorder is allowed, there are natural disasters and the elite get too rich and too corrupt (and when the Mongols show up, but they are sui generis).

  19. @Achmed E. Newman

    The US has Crony Capitalism, Big Biz working in cahoots with The State. Big Biz pays The State to write the rules the way Big Biz wants it, that is, to squash all small business competition. Think of how corporatized most fields have gotten over the last 40 years.

    Right now there is some controversy about a new plan to allow Medicare to negotiate with drug companies over drug prices. I cannot fathom why anyone would not want Medicare to negotiate with drug companies on behalf of taxpayers and both current and future Medicare recipients.

    Are there any other countries with large health care systems where this is the case and what do they see as the positive benefits of such a system?

    https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-kamala-harris-kyrsten-sinema-joe-manchin-3f796484455ad3f36aea0da36ac3363a

    Are Congressmen and Senators really coming under intense pressure from their home constituents to disallow Medicare to save billions of dollars by negotiating with drug companies, or could the influence of the major drug companies possibly be a factor?

    And why are we dealing with this problem at all? Didn’t Trump get it sorted at the very start of his administration, even before he built the Great Wall of Mexico when he said that the drug companies were getting away with murder (and he was not talking about Purdue!) Or were the drug companies given their License to Kill by his adminstration?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/01/11/trump-on-drug-prices-pharma-companies-are-getting-away-with-murder/

    And again at the end of the Reign of Terror?

    https://www.ajmc.com/view/trump-targets-drug-prices-with-2-orders

  20. @Achmed E. Newman

    Big Gov Crony Capitalism, which is not very far from Fascism when you think about it.

    Nothing could be further from the truth. America is increasingly a Corporatist State – that is, those who control the corporations tell the State what to do. Fascism involves the Corporate State – the State tells the corporations what to do.

    If America had been a Fascist State, the average American would be much better off. Industry would be protected by high tariff barriers. Offshoring would not be permitted. Non-white immigration would be miniscule ( the odd Japanese Christian or two). The average American worker would be better off and more secure financially as a result. Traditional family life would be strongly promoted and the tax system altered to support this, too. Promotion of sexual perversion would be crushed. There would be no desegregation.

    American “democracy” has been a disaster for the vast majority of White Americans. Its final phase is the Corporatist State and a hollowed out America – both economic and social. Collapse is imminent.

    • Agree: peterike
    • Troll: Corvinus
  21. @Jonathan Mason

    Trump waited until the end of his administration to do anything. As usual, it was blocked by the courts:

    https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/fierce-pharma-politics-judge-blocks-trump-s-most-favored-nations-drug-pricing-rule

    And as usual, Trump promptly forgot about the effort and is back to whining about how he supposedly won the election.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  22. Jack D says:

    when Facebook Inc. and Twitter Inc. took down former U.S. President Donald Trump’s accounts, Mr. Xi saw yet another sign America’s economic system was flawed—it let big business dictate what a political leader should do or say

    He’s not wrong. There are actually two problems: Monopoly power and the power of the Permanent Government. When the interests of monopoly capitalism align with those of the Permanent Government they outweigh the power of the elected government.

    First monopoly capitalism: Let’s say back in the day the New York Herald decided it would not longer print Calvin Coolidge’s speeches because in their view they were filled with lies. That was fine – the Tribune would print them, the World-Telegram would print them, the Times would print them and so on. Even in the days of TV networks, CBS won’t carry your speeches – no problem, everyone will flip over to NBC or ABC. Anyway, they wouldn’t dare try that because the next time their license was up for renewal the FCC would punish them for unfairness.

    But Twitter has a monopoly on what it does. There aren’t 3 different Twitter broadcasters that you choose from. Twitter needs to be split into at least 3 Twitters and you could choose which of the 3 you wanted to follow in your Twitter app, or all 3 so unless they ALL boycotted Trump (which they probably wouldn’t want to do for competitive reasons) you would still get your Trump feed. And if ever came to the point where all 3 decided to boycott Trump, that would be the sign that you needed 6 Twitters. The fear that the anti-trust people would go after them for colluding like this would keep them honest. But Twitter now operates without fear and (so long as it is aligned with the Permanent Government) feels free to spit in the face of POTUS. You can’t have a single business that is more powerful than the elected president. This is like something out of Star Wars where the Banking Clan was a rival force to the Republic.

    Bbbut you say, Twitter is a private business with free speech (suppression) rights and doesn’t use the airwaves. Like hell they don’t. The government has the power to regulate and antitrust the hell out of them if they want to. Let’s see Twitter ban Biden and we’ll find out if the government has the power to come down on them like a ton of bricks.

    The second is that the President of the United States is no longer the highest office. There is an unelected Permanent Government (without a head no less) that is more powerful than he is, just as in Iran the Revolutionary Guards and the Ayatollahs and not the elected government really control what the elected President can and can’t do. If the Generals of the US Permanent Government want to open their own diplomatic channels with China, they can. If they want to overrule Trump on the use of nuclear force, they can. The POTUS is no longer the Commander in Chief.

    In Communist countries the office of President of the State is usually the #2 office or a figurehead office. The real ruler of the country is the General or First Secretary of the Communist Party. The President reports to him. Sometimes (but not always) the President IS him. Generally speaking, when we have a Democrat POTUS, we have the later situation – the President is both the head of the Elected Government AND the head of the Permanent Government.

    But, when you have an elected President who is not backed by the Permanent Government (Trump) he is only elected to the President of the State job. Even worse, the job of General Secretary of the Permanent Government lies vacant. This creates a power vacuum and various forces (generals, monopoly businesses, etc.) rush in and try to grab pieces of power for themselves. Meanwhile the country is essentially rudderless – the rudder no longer responds to the man at the helm and there is no other single person who is steering either.

    That’s extremely dangerous. Imagine if China had chosen to invade Taiwan right on Jan. 6…

  23. anonymous[120] • Disclaimer says:

    Increasingly, Xi Jinping’s answer appears to be that Communism is good for keeping the foreign devils from degenerating our culture.

    The main theme of Xi’s tidal wave of reforms is creating a bigger middle class without raising taxes and improving the quality of life and quantity of middle class families.

    After school tutoring ban. Chinese parents are overzealous about tutoring lessons. It’s grown to be a big problem with parents feeling their kids will be left behind without tutoring. Classes in core subjects taught in school (including English) are now banned. Tutoring for subjects like music or sports remains. Tutoring is also quite expensive and raises the cost of raising a kid. English training centers in big cities in China charge about \$8,000 for one level of classes.

    Limits on online games. Chinese parents are good at getting their kids to do schoolwork but are otherwise bad parents who allow kids to waste the rest of their time on online games and don’t provide much guidance on being well-rounded. A new regulation limits minors to a few hours a week of online games. The measure was announced shortly after the after-school tutoring ban to make sure minors don’t misuse their newfound time.

    Antitrust. The tycoon closest to woke capital in China is Jack Ma who has seen his business empire cut down to size. One of the two main payment systems in China is held by Jack Ma’s conglomerate. It will be divided into two by antitrust regulators, creating three competitors in payments. It’s difficult to describe the extent to which mobile phone payments have taken over in China. At least 99% of transactions in the real world are by mobile phone so this move in particular uplifts every business.

    Plastic surgery could be scaled down. The stocks of plastic surgery companies in China have taken heavy losses so there is the anticipation of bad news for the industry.

    Overall, China in the last few months has moved in an intelligent direction in response to the pressure of strategic competition with the US. There is more emphasis on a happier mass middle class society even at the expense of investor confidence (the after school tutoring ban wiped out tens of billions of dollars of education companies listed in China and New York).

    • Agree: showmethereal, Ron Unz
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Jack D
    , @Rob
  24. @Hodag

    China may be in the midst of real change with Evergrande. China may have made itself into 1990s Japan, without the wealth.

    I think the key inflection point will be Xi’s ability to manage the Evergrande situation so that the anger is channeled in a direction that benefits him and his plans.

    If Xi is unable to do that, and significant internal opposition factions gain traction against him, China appears far less imposing going forward.

  25. I’m not a member of fB, tw, etc. It’s fine for private sector firms to censor content that they find objectionable. Old, big government, content-filtered media, e.g. WSJ, can print front-page attacks on fB every day, for all I care.

    I get upset when school board members, guarded by armed deputies, abruptly adjourn raucous meetings. (I like how commenters here post the entertaining tw videos.) Irate school (daycare) parents, who show up despite the inconvenient start times and public comments assigned as the last item on the agenda, who have to endure hours of dull, bureaucratic and legalistic presentations (i.e. official business) are allocated two minutes each to speak (if they even get the chance).

    • Agree: Stan d Mute
  26. @Jack D

    Jack, your comment is very worthy and perceptive. Thank you for it.

    Regarding what you say about Twitter (and, by implication, others) they should really be subject to the very same regulations that have applied to broadcasters for decades. It is funny that they are not.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @SaneClownPosse
  27. Matttt says:

    Pure propaganda. When Trump was president, China gave at least verbal support to BLM, Antifa, and liberal think tanks. Now that Biden is president, they will give at least verbal support right-wing causes and right-leaning think tanks. This is the game; they all play it. Or do you think our government really cares about some quasi-Turkish Muslims in western China with an unpronounceable name (wee-ger?)?

  28. Chinaman more pragmatic. He kill 80 million of own people.

    • LOL: Hangnail Hans
  29. J.Ross says:

    When an Australian cop realizes his target isn’t a grandma.

  30. @Hodag

    “China may have made itself into 1990s Japan, without the wealth.”

    As I’ve been pointing out forever (thanks to Eamonn Fingleton’s reporting), Japan’s “Lost Decade” or even “Lost Decades” was a myth. During those years the Japanese standard of living continued to rise, as did life expectancy, and Japan continued to increase her trade surplus in tandem with yen appreciation. The “lost decades” story did have the happy effect of removing US pressure on Japan to take more American goods and not sell quite so much to the US.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/eamonnfingleton/2013/08/11/now-for-the-truth-the-story-of-japans-lost-decades-is-the-worlds-most-absurd-media-myth

    “without the wealth” – well, what’s wealth? My UK house is worth four times what I paid for it twenty years ago, but I don’t feel wealthier – it’s a place to live. Indeed I’m poorer, because my children are having to pay so much for their properties that I’m subsidising their purchases with the savings and investments originally aimed at my comfortable old age.

    I’m sure the Chinese are much wealthier than they were 20 years ago and much much wealthier than they were 40 years ago. You can’t say that for the average US worker over 20 or 40 years.

    https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/the-typical-male-u-s-worker-earned-less-in-2014-than-in-1973/

    • Thanks: Ian Smith
  31. J.Ross says:
    @Hodag

    I hear conflicting reports. There are several reasons why our information is untrustworthy (everyone [not on Wall Street or in Washington, DC] wants to see China stumble, everyone knows Chinese lie [and especially with numbers], Evergrande is big but Chinese construction is huge [and their economy is galactic], etc), but not much good information. Anynhow it won’t be like Japan because the Chinese are very different from the Japanese, plus the recent instant industrialization is completely different from the 1980s Japanese situation. The Japanese were a stable, prosperous, industrialized society on par with Western nations when they allowed their militarists to destroy the country; then they simply built back better, then they got into a comfortable if unglamorous ditch. Highly educated people and generational knowledge could be relied upon to help, whichever direction the state chose, within a high trust society. China just caught up with (and partially beat) the rest of the world, just now, and they certainly didn’t bring all or most of their people to the leading edge.

  32. Anon[390] • Disclaimer says:

    You speak of “inequality” and “social injustice.”

    Social injustice against minority populations … I dunno, that’s starting to look like a good idea to me. It’s to late for us, but China still has time to enforce a generally homogeneous, internally peaceful population. I know it sucks to be Tibetan or Uyghuran, but eggs/omelette. You cannot have every possible positive virtue in a society. You’ve gotta prioritize. Social justice of the American type has dropped pretty low on my list.

  33. @Jack D

    The POTUS has not really been the commander-in-chief since George Washington retired to spend more time with his family.

    It has just been a kind of honorific, like the prisons in England are Her Majesty’s Prisons, but the queen is not involved when riots break out in her prisons.

    Do you think about Biden, in his role of Commander in Chief, is going to call a court-martial into session to indict those responsible for the drone killing of seven children in Afghanistan on charges of war crimes?

    It is one of the convenient fictions of modern industrialized democracies that the military is under civilian command, which reassures the electorate that we cannot expect coup d’etats led by military officers like Colonel Ghadaffi, but this all breaks down when the civilian leadership is insane.

    The first sign of this was when several senior positions in the White House were taken over by “retired” generals early in the Trump administration.

    What would happen if the Queen of England declared war on France? She would be quietly removed from any access to mass media and confined in a turret of the Tower of London, while the next in line was asked if he would like to join her, or alternatively play nice with the military.

    General Milley has been criticized for engaging in diplomacy above his pay grade, but the question we should really engage with is why would the top military officer in the US forces think that the president was insane. Had he met him in person, or was he just going by what he read on Twitter and Facebook?

  34. Anon[199] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    If Ecuador has that much free market capitalism, how come its people are still so poor? There is obviously a lot more to creating a middle-class country than just capitalism.

    You need the right people, not just the system.

    • Replies: @utu
    , @Jonathan Mason
  35. Only insane and/or senile boomers could believe we are better or doing better than China in 2021.

  36. res says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Seems like a variant of Conquest’s First Law to me: “Everyone is conservative about what he knows best.”
    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/conquests-laws-john-derbyshire/

    I would say the short answer to your questions is it is easy to pick and choose what you like from the views of overseas politicians (the effect actually works in both directions, contrast “Putin is evil”). Not so for your own.

    Regarding China, I would not want to live there instead (yet, anyway), but it is hard to argue with the idea that the Chinese get some things more right than we do. A big issue here is means vs. ends. Even if I think Xi’s goals here are worthwhile that does not necessarily make the means he uses to accomplish them desirable.

  37. Anon[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    “The POTUS has not really been the commander-in-chief since George Washington retired to spend more time with his family.”

    Sounds like a rationalization for Trump’s weakness.

  38. @Jack D

    We also have the problem that the Supreme Court has decided that corporations are individuals with the same rights as individuals.

    This constitutionally recognized individual freedom has led to a situation where wealthy individuals are more powerful than governments.

    We see this in cases like the Sackler judgment in which the courts are basically captive subsidiaries of vast corporations.

    We can also see that social media have unleashed the power of ignorance to an unprecedented extent, and completely undermined government authority to the extent that we are now headed towards anarchy at an accelerating pace.

    Nobody wants governments to be oppressive, but there must be a tipping point of individual freedom beyond which governments cannot govern.

    Even in the last few days we see that 10,000 Haitians from all over South America have managed to mobilize and gather to form a bridgehead into the United States, and now the southern border areas are is in a permanent state of emergency as the United States is losing control of parts of its territory.

    This is not that different from countries like Ecuador, where the United States state department has issued a travel warning for the province of Esmeraldas, which borders with Colombia, due to the activity of Colombian rebels.

    How long will it be before other countries are issuing travel warnings against visiting Texas or California?

  39. Agitprop says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    In the old days when words had meanings, this system — our system — was referred to as “mercantilism”. It’s the opposite of capitalism, the very thing that the original capitalist writers, including Adam Smith, were railing against; then as now, the dominant system of an authoritarian age. It didn’t become confused with “capitalism” until Marx conflated the two in his fatuous economic prophecy because they were both Not Nice Enough.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  40. Hey President Xi! Social Media took down Trump not because capitalism but because the ruling class wanted it.

    Meanwhile have your chappies read Bagehot’s Lombard Street so you know why you need to bail out Evergrande. “Lender of Last Resort,” old chap.

  41. Anonymous[173] • Disclaimer says:

    OT.

    1970s British prog rockers ‘Genesis’ have, apparently, launched what they call their ‘farewell tour’. Interesting enough in its own right, but the real shocker is the physical state of onetime Genesis singer/drummer Phil Collins who looks like a very aged, wizened, infirm old man, who is physically incapable of even holding a drumstick, and has to remain seated throughout the performance. His son, bless him, has taken over Genesis drumming.

    Perhaps it’s not too much of a stretch to say that Phil Collins *was* the Spirit of the Eighties, not only having the iconic ‘In the Air Tonight’ featured heavily in the defining TV show of the era, ‘Miami Vice’ but actually acting in it too.

    • Replies: @Aeronerauk
  42. LP5 says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    George Washington’s Farewell Address is useful to set a baseline for understanding the USA. Look at what he warned of, and then see how each of the items that he mentioned have been changed, manipulated, watered down, countermanded or otherwise undermined. Trace those over time and see who lobbied for, voted for, financed and participated in causing his warnings to come true while also being ignored by the public at large. There is plenty of blame to go around with new factions forming routinely.

  43. @Hodag

    they are sui generis

    The Mongols founded a short-lived Yuan dynasty, overthrown by a southern Han, Zhu Yuanzhang. They would return, in an alliance with Manchus, to found the much longer Qing.

    The progenitor of the current PRC dynasty is more or less another Mongol, Lenin.

    View post on imgur.com

    The extant of the Mongol Empire before its breakup essentially overlaps that of Cold War Communist Bloc. The Sino-Soviet Split represented another southern Han, Mao leading a “Renegade Chinese Independence Movement”.

    View post on imgur.com


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  44. @Jonathan Mason

    “… I cannot fathom why anyone would not want Medicare to negotiate with drug companies ..”

    Drug companies have employees and shareholders.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  45. Old Prude says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    “Had he met him in person, or was he just going by what he read on Twitter and Facebook?”

    From what we have come to know of Gen. Milley, the answer seems pretty clear. Apparently when one has spent one’s career sniffing the air for asses to kiss, one develops an acute sense of which way the wind is blowing.

    That no one will be court-martialed or removed for the lawless antics, insubordination and murderous mistakes of our woke-military speaks volumes about the state of “our Democracy”.

    I will note that Biden has seen fit to remove certain bad apples from the military academies’ advisory board though. That should help:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/09/08/biden-tells-trump-appointees-military-academy-boards-resign/5776909001/

  46. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Thank you. Y’know, every once in a while you have a scales falling from before your eyes moment and this was one of them. I always believed that (unlike the UK where a lot of the rules are unwritten), we had a strong and formal Constitutional system with clear lines of authority and where the head of state and the head of government was united in a single, elected office. Even things like phoneyed up groundless impeachments fell within the formal Constitutional framework even if they were abusive of that system.

    But for some reason, Xi’s outsider perspective really brought things into focus for me. Although figurehead heads of state like Queen Elizabeth are very common, in the West, the democratically selected head of government is usually the one with ultimate (which is not to say dictatorial) authority. Unlike Communist countries or Iran or Nazi Germany, there is no parallel structure which is the REAL center of power. But today it dawned on me that that is where we are now, but in some ways even worse because at least the Communist Party or the Revolutionary Guards HAVE a formal power structure. Our Party of the Permanent Government (which overlaps with but is NOT the Democrat Party – the head of the DNC is not an especially powerful figure that controls the rest of the Permanent Government) is, at times when it is not aligned with head of government, a powerful force but one that doesn’t really have a formal head or structure. The buck stops nowhere. THAT is the really scary part – anarchy is WORSE than (some) dictatorships.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  47. Dumbo says:

    Whatever. Xi Jinping seems like a serious and thoughtful leader, the polar opposite of any Western leader in the last 30 or 40 years.

    He’s right to limit American globohomo culture in China and he’s right in limiting exposure of children and teens to games and social media.

    I don’t like lots of things about China, and their general authoritarian mentality, but on this, and several other things, they are probably right.

    foreign devils from degenerating our culture.

    “Foreign devils” is exactly what most current Western leaders and rich businesspeople appear to be. Perhaps only Putin can be excepted, but I wouldn’t count Russia as “Western”.

  48. He has nothing to fear from tech firms. Even in the US, their power hangs by a thread; the government could reign them in, throttle them, turn them into castrated public utilities, or break them up into a thousand little pieces. They do what they can because one party likes what they’re doing and the other party is suicidally devoted to the sanctity of private property.

  49. @Achmed E. Newman

    Winnie the Pooh understands the concept of Social Symmetry. You can’t anchor the poor (or even the middle class, for that matter) on short chains while doing everything to make the tide rise for the rich, which is what our wonderful “capitalist” system is doing here

  50. @Achmed E. Newman

    Yep, and if we were really guided by small-l libertarian free-market principles, the Big Tech oligopoly’s social-media apps would NEVER simultaneously enjoy the protections of a platform and the censorious power of a publisher.

    The GOP is a tool of Big Business — and every one of its leaders is a tool, period — and so a truly free market isn’t a real option any time soon. For that reason I understand the attraction of a more honestly promoted mixed economy managed for the sake of the nation and its people.

    That may be, realistically, the least bad option for right now, but I still think it’s much worse than the ideal.

    [MORE]

    (We’re not a free market, and that complaint can be taken very far indeed. Arguably, LLC charters were only intended for those beneficial projects that would never be undertaken with the conventional acceptance of risk: hence, the British East India tea company for the Empire, a limited-liability arrangement that was never intended or needed for Starbucks or the Coca-Cola Company. But it’s like arguing about privitizing lighthouses: fighting against limited liability, punitive damages, and other deviations from the principle of lex talionis isn’t really an option right now.)

    I still strongly prefer a free market, both for prudential reasons and for moral reasons — a free market really is the most efficient, and the individual really does have property rights that the state should never violate — but the GOP has proven to be very deceitful, invoking the free market while working for big business.

    When is the last time the GOP actually succeeded in any free-market reforms beyond corporate tax cuts?

    There’s tons of obvious work to be done, but sugar tarriffs and corn subsidies and ethanol incentives remain, not because they benefit the average American but because they’re the expected returns on all the investments Archer Daniels Midland has made in effectively purchasing the federal government.

    And free trade with China is fundamentally a lie because the Chinese people aren’t themselves free: trade merely subsidizes their slavery and undercuts our own working class.

    Trump was attractive because people see through the charade, accept Big Government as a given, and would like that gov’t to take care of its own people once in a while. Prinicipled libertarian capitalism is betrayed and therefore discredited, and so people understandably turn to corporatism (binding the nation together into the metaphorical fasces) or a kind of socialism that is guided by nationalist priorities: the term for these approaches escapes me at the moment.

    Those sort of approaches probably are better than the totalitarian, deracinated (and even depraved) globalism that we have now, but we shouldn’t mistake them for the best possible approach.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
  51. @Jack D

    The one consolation (if you can call it that) is that Biden isn’t running things any more than Trump was. Pelosi has more say than he does. It’s leadership by committee. Obama and even the Clintons are still in the mix to some extent.

  52. What’s that saying? “The Lord protects drunks, sailors and the United States of America.”

    Just as we are hobbling ourselves with the race reckoning, global warming, government debt beyond belief and political correctness, the whole darn rest of the world does even more damage to themselves.

    As the PRC erodes private property rights (more) and contract rights (more), it will become poorer.
    First growth will disappear but they will lie about it. Then the absolute standard of living will decline, a lot, a whole lot.

    Of course Europe is going to be very cold this winter and short of hydrocarbons for product production because it bet on wind which is not blowing. Japan decided capitalism was great as long as the government prevented any large business from going bust (making its banks zombies with new companies constantly starved for capital).

    The good old USA is going to turn out to be the most attractive single girl in the bar at Aniak, Alaska

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  53. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Jonathan Mason

    Milley is a Cloud Person. First, he’s never seen combat ever. The most he did was run operations from a secure rear base and watch and listen. He’s all in on BLM, “White evilness and original genetic sin” and all the other blather that Cloud Idiots believe. He wants to turn the entire nation and world, woke. He rails that China is not the enemy, and wants endless losing wars like Afghanistan where his soldiers can get killed or grievously wounded so he can get another medal.

    In a sane society, Milley would be shot as a traitor. As would his subordinates who he made swear oaths of personal loyalty. This would encourage other senior officers to do their jobs and not play politics.

    You can say this about Milley, he is as incompetent as he is woke. He could not even manage the evacuation of Afghanistan without it turning into a shambles, and was defeated and put on the run by illiterate goat herders on scooters. Literally. But then, massive incompetence is a feature not a bug of the Woke Ruling elite.

    He thought Trump insane because Trump as the Tribune of Dirt People disagreed with Woke Dogma: Trump thought White people were NOT genetically evil, and did NOT bear blood guilt for everything, and that China WAS our enemy, and that BLM got a lot of people killed and was a disaster which it is.

    A system that privileges black thugs to be even more thuggish is not stable. Not the least of which is Latinos have now allied themselves with Dirt Whites in the anti-black alliance. That was as predictable as the calendar and something Woke Milley can’t even see.

    • Agree: bombthe3gorgesdam
    • Replies: @Alexander Turok
    , @Alfa158
  54. Escher says:

    Xi look like a man.

  55. Xi is smart enough to know that there ain’t no such thing as “capitalism” in the world today; there is only Central Banker Shysterism. Occasionally the nasty slobs who run the propaganda rags called the WSJ and NYT tell the truth about Central Banker Shysterism — but not too much truth or the whole damn globalized financial system implodes.

    There is no “capitalism,” you damn dirty ape fools, there is only globalized central banker shysterism. You can’t have any damn thing called “capitalism” when you have a debt-based fiat currency system. The greedy and immoral and evil ones will always use the electronics of an electronic debt-based fiat currency system to their advantage and they don’t give a frigging damn about what is in the best interests of the nation as a whole.

    A lot of sonofabitches are saying they want this thing that is so-called “capitalism” and I say give it to ’em with both barrels. Stop the monetary extremism from the Fed and you greedy stupid boneheads will get your damn “capitalism.”

    The asset bubbles in stocks and bonds and real estate — commercial and residential — must be allowed to undergo PRICE DISCOVERY unhindered by the anti-capitalist machinations of the globalized central banker shysters.

    This is the third frigging asset bubble, starting in the 1990s, that the plutocrat- and privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank has inflated using monetary extremism — low or zero or negative interest rates, asset purchases, quantitative easing, dollar swaps, direct central bank purchases of sovereign and corporate debt, balance sheet ballooning, bailouts…etc. — and enough is enough, DAMMIT!

  56. Xi seems to be trying to avoid America’s mistakes.

  57. @Jack D

    Jack: some good points here, but zero chance that China invades Taiwan.

    Taiwan leaks intellectual property into China.

    TSMC has no value without its key suppliers . They include Japanese photoresist chemicals, American- based supplies such as AMAT, Lam, and Dutch litho supplier ASML and Japan’s Nikon lithography equipment, and a CCP invasion would cut all that supply off. That supply chain cannot be duplicated by China for decades even with “leakage” into China.

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  58. Anon[175] • Disclaimer says:

    I honestly think that America would be better off if it were run by the Chinese Communist Party.

    A lot of Americans on the right make fun of the Chinese. They think they’ve given up their freedom for social stability, but the simple fact is that the CCP would never bother most Americans on the right. The people they’d be imprisoning en masse are the low IQ blacks butchering each other in America’s inner cities, the sexual deviants, the degenerates, BLM, antifa, etc.

    And with all those people gone, and Americans free to enjoy their own civilisation in peace, why would anyone on the right even bother complaining about the so-called commies running the show?

    • Troll: Corvinus
  59. Head Chink Xi of the Chinese Communist Party is very well aware of the JEW QUESTION and Xi knows that the cultural rot has gotten out of hand in the USA since the dope WASP boobs let the Jews Organized Globally(JOG) mob run amok in every power center of the USA.

    JEW QUESTION:

    Jews form a nation within a nation everywhere they reside. Can Jews ever be considered to be part of the larger nation in which they reside when they are genetically and culturally predisposed to put the interests of the Jew Nation over and above the interests of the larger nations in which they reside?

    The Federal Reserve Bank is infested with the minions of the JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire:

    • Replies: @Alexander Turok
  60. SafeNow says:

    As long as you are cracking-down, Mr. Xi, I have a small request. (Please pass this along in your Unz report, smart Chinese-intel gals who are assigned to monitoring Unz.) Please crack-down on poor-quality Chinese products that Amazon delivers to my porch. China is proficient at doing so many things; add product-quality to the list. I can’t prove it, but I think most Americans would say they would be happy to pay a fair price increase to get high-quality merchandise. Thank you, and have a great day, smart Chinese-intel gals.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  61. Anon[414] • Disclaimer says:

    Their partial ban on videogaming could inadvertently prove useful in the increasing of fertility rates.
    Any move that counteracts the deracinating effects of modern life could help boost healthy fertility

  62. jamie b. says:

    Once again, it’s “Xi,” not “XI.” It’s a name, not a Roman numeral.

  63. anon[128] • Disclaimer says:

    But notice that China isn’t cracking down on all of its technology companies. Huawei, for example, still seems to enjoy the government’s full backing. The government is going hell-bent-for-leather to try to create a world-class domestic semiconductor industry, throwing huge amounts of money at even the most speculative startups. And it’s still spending heavily on A.I. It’s not technology that China is smashing — it’s the consumer-facing internet software companies that Americans tend to label “tech”.

    Interesting thought. Social media isn’t really technical. Is any company in more technical than the chip makers or less technical than Facebook?

    Gooogle is only technical because they don’t want to become Gen X MadMen.

    Otherwise, it is just advertising and plagiarism and pornography.

  64. @Buzz Mohawk

    It’s not funny at all, it’s by design, social media and smartphones came out of the Intelligence agencies, who funded Silicon Valley.

    Voluntary 24 by 7 surveillance and thought monitoring of the general public filtered through a few channels. Using artificial intelligence to detect deviations from the desired norms. Skynet has landed.

    “Hate speech” is just another way of saying “thought crime”.

  65. @Whiskey

    I really doubt Milley is woke. He just saw the incentive structure. Side with Red and Blue will cut your funding, side with Blue and Red won’t cut your funding, they’ll just whine on Twitter. Until the GOP grows some balls, this will continue.

  66. @Anonymous

    I saw Phil solo several years ago and he apologized for his physical state (back troubles.) He still sounds like himself, which isn’t overly impressive considering his range but the show was very good.

    Given his wealth those back issues must be serious if he’s reduced to using a cane in his 60s.

  67. @Jonathan Mason

    I hate to say this but you are actually right…

    Likewise, Mr. Mason, but it’s been a while. ;-}

    However, as for your “Xi for President”, I would take Putin or the dude in Salvador over Winnie the Pooh any day of the week. I have been to China 11 times. I would have agreed with your take on the free markets (such as you describe for Ecuador) if you were writing me 10 years ago. That place was the Wild Wild East, and I was a little surprised but greatly impressed.

    Back 15 years ago, since you mentioned the phones, I remember one could get a SIM card out on the street – cash, of course, as cash was king there a decade ago.* That was great, but within a few years you had to show ID at the internet cafe (to be recorded, as it was still cash), and 5 years ago, a Chinaman/woman had to give ID information for getting a SIM card or phone with a number. Who knows how much the internet is kept track of? (I’m not even talking about direct blockage of sites**. youtube didn’t work. American pro-gun sites worked fine.)

    Anyone thinking Xi and the CCP are just peachy (or at least better for the world***, really need to read a 2020 written book called We Have Been Harmonized by one Kai Strittmatter. Peak Stupidity has a 4 part review of that book:

    Part 1
    Part 2
    Part 3
    Part 4

    The place is going fully Orwellian. Never go full Orwellian!

    .

    * Just as a funny aside, the prices varied, based on phone number. Of course one could see the easy-to-memorize ones being worth more, but this was about superstition too. 4’s are bad, see. 8’s are good. So, if you didn’t have a business to use the phone for, you got one with a lot of 4’s. I really think if you had 3 or 4 “4”s, I think many Chinese people would have been scared to call you!

    ** Ha, not like there’s nothing like that here, but it’s done by Big Biz as you all know. I could not get on unz this morning from a certain office to write you back, Jonathan for that reason. It was blocked.

    *** Yes, better for the Chinese people right now than the Feral Gov’t/Big Biz cooperative is for Americans. It may seem hopeless, but I’d say we have a better chance of changing things for the better still than they do.

    • LOL: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  68. utu says:
    @Anon

    “If Ecuador has that much free market capitalism, how come its people are still so poor? ”

    Who told you that free market capitalism generate wealth and why did you believe them?

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
  69. @Jack D

    anarchy is WORSE than (some) dictatorships.

    Congratulations, Jack. You have had a satori moment and followed Mencius Moldbug into political Buddha-hood. Part of Moldbug’s argument in Unqualified Reservations might be described as the “anarchy” you reference isn’t new, it’s just accelerating now, but goes back to the founding. You might also be interested in James Burnham’s The Machiavellians.

    The systems you describe in which power is wielded by a parallel organization like a political party are fundamentally ideological. The power elite is held together by what The Machiavellians calls a “political formula”–e.g., divine right of kings 1030s Germany, or National Socialism in 1930s Germany. Burnham says the political formula is allowing the elites to wield power over the masses, but it’s also true that the political formula holds the elites together. You could argue that in 1930s Germany the elites were not all ideologically National Socialist, but the rejoinder would be that what constituted elites in 1930s Germany was going through a shift–real power shifted from traditional German elites to “representatives of the people,” i. e. fascists. However, they were not natural elites but simply people who were willing to use force in that moment to grab power. The fact that the Nazis were not natural elites is why their regime ended so quickly. The fact that the previous regime of the natural elites had ended was due to the fact that their political formula contained within it the seeds of its own inability to maintain power, that is the degeneracy and managerial ineptitude of the Weimar Republic that led to essential anarchy.

    The US does not have an organization parallel to the government wielding real power, but it does have a political formula, which has included Constitutionalism (law, text) but has also included revolutionary elements. You learn this political formula in public school and really internalize it by attending Ivy League universities and such, the preconditions for entering the elite. The US elite dedication to the schizo political formula is what led to self-evidently conflicted ideas like “the living Constitution.”. (Some people might argue that this revolutionary element entered in mid-20th century, but MM’s Unqualified Reservations argues it can be traced back to the founding and before.). Hence, the US’s political formula contains the seeds of its own demise as the elites embody and perform the revolutionary elements, leading towards what you recognize as anarchy. Now, the revolutionary strand is ascendant (if not, the Zeitgeist would have the elites converging on “Milley committed treason”, because that is clearly true from a Constitutional and legal perspective–instead, we see uneasy acceptance of Milley because the Zeitgeist has turned away from process, precedent, and textualism).

    How long can the anarchy go on? Hard to say. The elite serves the formula. Things are in the saddle.

    What is next?

    The Cossack eats Poland,
    Like stolen fruit;
    Her last noble is ruined,
    Her last poet mute;
    Straight into double band
    The victors divide;
    Half for freedom strike and stand; —
    The astonished Muse finds thousands at her side.

    Moldbug is writing on Substack but I haven’t paid for that.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  70. CMV says:
    @Hodag

    Well, from what I have read from CCP propagandists online, who are usually grossly biased yet still worth reading for their insights on China, the CCP recently tightened up lending standards to the real estate industry, so as to prick their housing bubble before it grows out of control- they intend to let Evergrande eventually collapse and be liquidated. There will be some pain, but stitch in time saves nine as they see it.

    There’s a lot to criticize China about, but compare their system with Anglosphere Chamber of Commerce-style capitalism, where major policy decisions from everything from immigration to trade policy to free speech are essentially doled out to large, increasingly Woke corporations.

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  71. @Charles Pewitt

    Re Leon Black, the case is a woman who alleges she was “forced” into a “years-long sexual relationship.” To back up her claims, she’s found an anonymous woman who “went to Epstein’s “massage room” where Black gave the woman \$300 for a massage, but then raped her, the court filing alleges, adding that she was in “such agony that she could barely speak or breathe.”

    The long-term goal here is to allow any woman who’s upset with an ex to suddenly decide the whole relationship was “nonconsensual” all along. You don’t need to go to bat for Leon Black, he has the dream team of lawyers and doesn’t need your help. But they’re coming for you too. See this recent case:

    https://reason.com/2021/09/15/james-madison-university-alyssa-reid-title-ix-nonconsensual/

    Don’t feel safe in the private sector either. The wokers are working to export it there too.

  72. vinteuil says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    …the type of person who is endlessly cynical about the politicians they know, yet unwaveringly credulous of those overseas…

    Yup.

    Xi Jinping is not based. He is not red-pilled. He is, for now, the capo di tutti capi of one of the most successful criminal gangs in all of human history.

    Don Corleone with Chinese characteristics.

    • Agree: Corvinus
  73. Weaver says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Um, I like some of what he’s doing. He’s making China less communist while calling it communist. Some of his reforms are conservative.

    Get rid of the social credit system, add certain freedoms, and China might turn out well.

  74. Altai says:

    Wokeness is fundamentally antisocial and individualistic (Outside it’s use by groups to pursue their own interests at the expense of the core owners of a society) collectivist authoritarian regimes, particularly ones with strong ethnic legitimatizes are hostile to anything which lessens anyone’s social commitment.

    In communist and authoritarian societies (The modern PRC isn’t communist anymore but is authoritarian with a government that takes a keen interest in societies health) these things are to be controlled and denigrated.

    Wokeness is not ‘communism’, wokness is highly supported by the upper classes because they like the idea of people not having social responsibilities or controls on their actions. They have money, they can indulge themselves. The poor suffer from a lack of social responsibilities. Wokeness meshes well with the logic of the Chicago school of economics.

    It’s interesting to note that the PRC took a very deep interest in looking at what they perceived as the problems that caused the collapse of the Soviet Union.

    These latest actions seem to me to be a response to hat they perceive as the causes of the downfall of the USA. At least the causes applicable to themselves. (There is not a dominant minority in academia with an innate anti-national agenda) Whereas the US was built by a high trust guilt culture, China could very much OD on money and decadence spectacularly.

    They are clamping down on expressions of homosexuality in media, tattoos (A visible form of social defection and individualism which may lower others social commitment) video games (East Asians seem to be particularly susceptible for either genetic or cultural reasons to compulsive gaming and gambling) and ethnic separatism.

    This is also going along with the social credit system that seeks to punish furbo and anti-social behaviour.

    • Agree: AnotherDad
    • Thanks: Thea
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  75. @Triteleia Laxa

    “has there always been the type of person who is endlessly cynical about the politicians they know, yet unwaveringly credulous of those overseas?”

    Yes. They are UK liberals who voted to remain in the EU, and who worship Angela Merkel.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/21/brexit-angela-merkel-britain-remainers-german-chancellor-uk

  76. Thea says:

    Even Chinese communists are better rulers than our bottom dwelling politicians of both parties.

    It’s odd that the leaders of foreign countries where we have no ethnic or religious connection hate us less than our own government.

  77. Communist China has always been primarily Oriental nationalist despotic empire. They never cared about what Marx “really” thought or did (and were correct about it).

    It is the same now, only in a modified garb.

  78. Hmm, so Mr. Xi speaks truth to power, but his thoughts will produce no change here.

  79. Anonymous[198] • Disclaimer says:
    @Abolish_public_education

    It’s fine for private sector firms to censor content that they find objectionable.

    No, it isn’t actually. Corporations shouldn’t be able to dictate what a political leader can do or say, or what citizens can say to each other. Corporate control of discourse isn’t in the best interests of the American people.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  80. anon[626] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    “Big companies can get away with what they do because of LACK of Capitalism”

    True Capitalism hasn’t been tried yet! /s

    Or maybe this is the end result. You had your free market, and it was gamed by your enemies.

  81. @Achmed E. Newman

    Communists, Crony Capitalists, Fascists… “The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

    “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits.” Mt 7: 15-16

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  82. J.Ross says:

    Israeli anon says

    1 HOUR OF PEOPLE INFRONT OF A CAMERA, FACE REVEALED, TALKING ABOUT SEVERE VAX REACTIONS
    Heart attacks, neurological problems, blood clots, abortions and more
    This is not going to end well for those who pushed for this

    https://www.vaxtestimonies.org/en/

  83. Anon[419] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    “In the United States there is little real competition.”

    That’s the end result of unfettered Capitalism. Corporations don’t benefit from competition, so they limit it through mergers, hostile takeovers, and collusion — among many other tactics. The end result is that only a few suppliers control the market, their power so large they can effectively overrule the public, gouge the consumer and limit innovation through buyouts and lawfare. The only entity capable of stopping this is a powerful government, which libertarian dogmatists abandoned in favor of utopianism. Now that the end result is woke Capitalism, they make excuses like “this isn’t true Capitalism.” Yes. It. Is. This is the end result of your dogma. Unregulated markets always end this way. The fact that it didn’t turn out like you thought it would doesn’t mean this isn’t Capitalism.

  84. @Jonathan Mason

    The President of the US (at least prior to the current one) has always had much more power than the heads of state of other democracies, such as Britain’s Prime Minister.

    • Replies: @odin
    , @Reg Cæsar
  85. @Anon

    No, I think CCP would favor Chinese above all else. Why would they give 2 fuqs about white people, especially since whites don’t care about other whites?

  86. @utu

    fmc does just enough to create more consumers, products and markets. wider spread wealth is possible, but not necessarily the goal.

  87. anon[232] • Disclaimer says:
    @Joe Stalin

    Chinese economy skeptics have a bad track record like Kyle Bass.

    Starting in July 2015, Bass made a multiyear bet against the Chinese yuan based on a predicted banking collapse in China.[44] Bass closed out his position against the Chinese currency in early 2019 when the predicted devaluation of the currency did not occur.[44]

    Bass argued in 2015 that the Chinese banking system was undercapitalized and its foreign reserves would be insufficient in a crisis. Bass predicted a hard landing for the Chinese economy following a bank crisis and a severe devaluation of the Chinese currency, variously given as “somewhere between 15%-20%” and “30 to 40 percent”.[45][46]

    Hayman suffered its worst year in 2017 with a loss of 19% due to the strengthening of the Chinese yuan.[6]

    Bass used to have a \$2.3 billion fund. Now it’s \$300 million.

    • Agree: Showmethereal
  88. @Anon

    You should talk to people who have lived under an authoritarian regime when they are able to speak freely.

    In Estonia my guide told how every Thursday an official would read off the list of people who were to be sent to the Gulag. Tens of thousands of people were shipped off, almost none ever came back. There are name covered memorials of those who presumably lost their lives under horrible conditions in the camps.

    The people shipped off were those who became local leaders, intellectuals, anyone who spoke their mind, people who annoyed the authorities in some way or another, probably some just plain mistakes.
    There may be a murder and a rapist or two on those memorials, but the majority of the people were innocent of anything we would call a crime.

    • Replies: @SafeNow
  89. Biden and the Democrat Party are just slightly reducing the welfare money for the satellite millstone client state of Israel and the rancid Republican Party scumbag named Kevin McCarthy is screaming about some damn thing called “anti-semitism” and I say give that loot taken from the Israel people to the Australians in the form of a cruise missile system to fire out of some torpedo tube that the USA will build on the new nuclear-powered subs for Australia.

    Xi is giving the Foster’s Lager people, or as Biden calls them the “downunder” people, some crud and he(Xi) ain’t buying some dug up stuff from Australia and Xi knows the drunken “downunder” people won’t nuke China so let’s see the American Empire focus on the Pacific and sever all ties to the millstone client state of Israel because Israel is a STRATEGIC LIABILITY and Carter Doctrine can be put in motion by offshore over the horizon methods of hitting oil installations and destroying them if needed to control the oil and gas.

    Attention Mr. Wu Xi(Woozy): CHINA LAB FLU

  90. @Jonathan Mason

    The POTUS has not really been the commander-in-chief since George Washington retired to spend more time with his family.

    Nah. You can go back as recently as to Ronald Reagan. When 200-something American soldiers got killed by that bomb in Beirut, he said “enough is enough” with the Middle East meddling. He brought everyone out.

    Maybe a lot of people don’t remember that, but I just met a guy who’s Dad got seriously injured in that blast – enough to have to leave the military, in which he had plans to fly.

    BTW, your second comment here, early on, sounds like it could have been written by a Libertarian. What happened? Typos?

  91. @Alexander Turok

    I remember I haven’t agreed with you much, Mr. Turok (usually re: the Kung Flu), but I agree totally with your take on President Trump. The very thing that has been discussed herein, the Big “TECH” control, was an issue that Trump talked about fairly early in those 4 years. There was a big change he could have done using the FCC regarding Section 230 of the Communications Act.

    What’d the guy do? Not a dang thing till it became very personal 3 weeks before the ’20 election. He saw the censorship that was hurting his campaign and said he was going to do something now. Yeah, that’s way too late, but also he did nothing for his constituents on the matter earlier but only cared when it became personal – no long-term thinking there.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  92. Whiskey says: • Website

    What matters with Xi is his own direct experience at being purged during the Cultural Revolution, which saw his father imprisoned, his sister dead in questionable circumstances, and himself exiled to shoveling pig manure in XianXing for 8 years.

    The Cultural Revolution was not like ours. Theirs was bottom up, though given free reign at least to start by Mao. Ordinary Chinese found themselves back in the Kuomintang essentially, with high ranking Party officials hoovering up everything and their lives getting consistently worse, and no hope for their kids. OF COURSE they took it out big time on the Upper Classes. With a heaping dose of nationalism and utopianism. See the Taipeng Rebellion, Boxer Rebellion, etc.

    Xi is tamping down social inequality, banning the tutoring, cosmetic surgery. Banning most feminism, banning the effeminancy and other upper class affectations, banning or seizing control of Oligarchs empires. Xi certainly does not want to end up like Chang Kai-Shek. So he has to bring the Oligarchs, Upper Classes, and degnerates down to size to assuage middle class anger. There is not much he can do to make their lives better. But he can cut down their eternal rivals a bit. Which he has done.

    He does not want another Cultural Revolution. And a war with Taiwan with “glorious” victory would fit the bill. His forces could probably sink the woke US Navy in a day across the entire Pacific. He might even be able to take Hawaii. If he was bold enough.

  93. Corvinus says:
    @anonymous

    “There is more emphasis on a happier mass middle class society even at the expense of investor confidence…”

    That’s the goal but not the reality.

    https://min.news/en/economy/8171cf593ea2c6b1ca10bd0a500e6c09.html

    In practice, Chairman Xi has centralized policy-making power in party committees that he leads, suppressed dissent and projected a muscular nationalism and foreign policy. He has also strengthened party control over the economy, championing the role of state enterprises in strategic industries.

  94. @James B. Shearer

    “Monopsony” Mason is on the trail.

  95. @Altai

    Good comment Altai–covers a lot of the ground.

    While Xi’s main interest is obviously Xi–staying top dog–from this snippet, i’d say he’s more or less on the right track.

    Industries that Mr. Xi views as being led astray by a capitalist spirit, including not only tech but also after-school tutoring, digital gaming and entertainment, are bearing the immediate brunt.

    The Internet–specifically social media (for girls/women), gaming and porn (boys/men)–has been highly disruptive to normal human/community functioning. Definitely disruptive to normal social development of young men and women, being appealing to each other and bonding with each other.

    All the homo LGBQWERTY stuff … please! Just a big waving red rainbow flag advertising social decline. There’ve always been sexually abnormal people, but never did cultures promote, “celebrate”, their mental illness.

    The last few years, I’ve really started to wonder what sort of culture will survive. I wonder whether it will be just autonomous sub-groups with a strong communitarian line–banning much of the current “culture”–that will make it through.

    I think republicanism–self-government of productive self-reliant men–is the best system. And I had always hoped–back in the day “assumed”–that good old American style republicanism would be rolling on into the future. But my nation has been hi-jacking by the minoritarian mercantilists. Precious little republicanism is left.

    No idea anymore what the future holds–other than tremendous churn as technologies like AI and robotics make their mark, and then–perhaps–genetic technologies like CRISPR.

    I only know that the shit show from the US establishment–minoritarianism, worshipping blacks and queers and trannies and immigrants, denigrating the ordinary hard-working flyover country white gentiles who actually made America a great place to live–is going nowhere, a path of national destruction. Chinese–and everyone else–are certainly right to take careful notes and steer clear.

  96. @International Jew

    REIN.

     The government could rein them in, dammit!

  97. Jack D says:
    @anonymous

    The problem with a dictatorial system is that you might start out with intelligent reforms that benefit the middle class and blast right past the reasonable phase and go right on to the arbitrary and capricious phase where you are catering to the insane whims of some dictator who has lost all touch with reality and there’s no way to get rid of him other than kill him and then on to the mass murder phase.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  98. Rob says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    Probably because we get foreign pols 1000 ft campaign stances “I generally support…” and international relations, in international economics reasonable (for what they are) neoliberals have been running things since 1945. In conflict, those today are both rarer and mostly third world, chiefly involving (though not necessarily driven by) Islam. None of the people you’re talking about say things like, “sheik Mohamad Muhammad of Bahrain says…” do they? So first-world leaders and even lapdog third worlders are all against Islamic terrorism. If it’s a non-Islamic conflict, rebels and the government, say, there is some colonial nation backing the government and everyone else that the government’s atrocities are bad.

    Most importantly, they don’t expect anything. However much I like Marine Le Pen, I don’t expect her to do anything for me. If she wins, that’s great, it shows anti-immigration can win even (lol) in a nation with tons of terrible immigrants. People expect stuff of their nation’s pols. Doung anything usually involves a significant compromise with either the other side or by getting otherwise neutral parties to buy in for goodies. So I judge Le Pen by her rhetoric, but I judge Trump by his abject failure to do anything for his supporters, capitalists and Zionist Jews excepted, as always.

    Plus, little scandals don’t make international news. Foreign pols look cleaner because we don’t care to see the dirt.

    Then there is the team effect, you might like Putin (i think he’s the best Russia can get) because you follow Russian news, and admire his policies, but if you like Putin, it’s probably because MSM has demonized him. Enemy of my enemy…

    So foreigners = words, ideals
    domestics =deeds, scandals

    • Replies: @Weaver
  99. Weaver says:
    @Rob

    Some praise Assad, though he’s secular. Some praised the Taliban just out of fellowship in opposing the empire. So, those are two Muslims. I don’t think I want to live under the Taliban myself.

  100. Weaver says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    I like any politician who isn’t flooding his country with immigrants.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  101. frankie p says:
    @Peter Johnson

    That’s an excerpt from a Wall Street Journal article. I would hesitate to call ANY of the “Xi has talked about…” or “Mr. Xi saw…” as quotes, especially attributing them to President Xi.

    And he is President Xi. What’s with the Wall Street Journal, Steve? Why didn’t you call them out on this ENTIRE excerpt referring to PRESIDENT Xi as Mr. Xi?

    I feel that Xi is much more interested in smashing foreign institutional investors and domestic Chinese oligarchs against to wall than just going to war against woke culture. He is garnering populist support from the grass roots of Chinese society. This was very much a Mao move. Of course that means it is a warning to the big money faction in Shanghai and any other faction that might be trying to challenge Xi’s power in this time of challenges. I like the point about Xi’s supposed observation of Twitter and Facebook take-down of Trump and subsequent conclusion that big (internet) business had too much power in the US. If anyone has seen any official statements regarding this issue, please provide a link. I have grown cynical and hesitate to trust “officials familiar with his views said. …” from any western media source.

  102. @Abolish_public_education

    It is true that Facebook and Twitter and such like are businesses.

    It is not like the White House does not have its own channels for communicating with the public and the world, such as press conferences and the White House press corps.

    I believe the president of the United States actually has a full-time employee called a press secretary who is responsible for getting out information from the White House to the public.

    When I was working as a news journalist, I was always happy to get press releases from various governments that would explain what they were doing to make the world a better place. Often they were written in incomprehensible government language, but it was usually possible to more or less figure out what they were trying to say.

    Twitter is a useful medium for getting out short messages, pictures, and short videos, but not very good for nuanced discussion or detail.

  103. @Jack D

    Yes, dictators are difficult to get rid of once they go crazy. Even elected presidents sometimes.

    Imagine if a majority of members of the Supreme Court decided to stage a coup in the US. They would be legally unassailable, and the only way to remove them would be through death.

  104. odin says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    The President of the US (at least prior to the current one) has always had much more power than the heads of state of other democracies, such as Britain’s Prime Minister.

    Britain’s Prime Minister is the head of government, not head of state. The head of state is the Queen.

    But your point stands that the US President has had more power than the monarch, dating back to the two Georges.

  105. @AndrewR

    “… If it were about profit then capitalists would never have allowed affirmative action to be enacted, to name one of many examples of capitalism no longer caring about profit.”

    Capitalism copes with many taxes and regulations that reduce profits (although maybe not as you might think if they are expected and planned for). What is special about affirmative action that makes it worse than all the other stuff capitalists put up with?

    • Replies: @Rob
  106. @CMV

    “… so as to prick their housing bubble before it grows out of control ..”

    Reportedly it has been out of control for some time.

  107. @Hapalong Cassidy

    The President of the US (at least prior to the current one) has always had much more power than the heads of state of other democracies, such as Britain’s Prime Minister.

    Her Majesty is the head of state. The PM is head of government. Presidents in Finland, Ireland, and Iceland are heads of state. Those of France and the US fill both roles.

    Betcha didn’t know France has her own electoral college. One much weirder than ours.

    https://www.senat.fr/lng/en/senators/the_senatorial_elections.html

  108. @Weaver

    I like any politician who isn’t flooding his country with immigrants.

    It’s a pretty low bar today.

    Now we’re in this weird position where an oppressive thug running a police state is a considerably better leader for his nation’s citizens than the leaders of so called “democracies”.

    What is supposed to be the absolute minimum level of national leadership–“stop invasion”–leaders of the West can’t even meet.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Weaver
  109. Rob says:
    @Jack D

    I think this post was very insightful. A clever analogy that describes a lot.

    I take issue with this:

    But Twitter has a monopoly on what it does. There aren’t 3 different Twitter broadcasters that you choose from. Twitter needs to be split into at least 3 Twitters and you could choose which of the 3 you wanted to follow in your Twitter app, or all 3 so unless they ALL boycotted Trump (which they probably wouldn’t want to do for competitive reasons) you would still get your Trump feed.

    The humorously acronymed FAGS (Facebook Apple Google, and Spotify) all banned Alex Jones on the same day. At least one claimed it was a coincidence.

    Modern communication and infotech give huge power to the people who control that tech. At the very least, they need to be Ma Bell’ed. Google split up into several companies in each country it operates in. Ad revenue taxed in the location where the ad was seen and clicked. These would not nec. Be regional monopolies, you would be able to Cal-google in Ulan Bator. Maybe you sell a web portal that aggregates and ranks search results from any or all of those? Fine, too. But get too big, you get broken up, too.

    Perhaps we “blockchain” Google. All the local companies keep a ledger of Google’s database, and algorithm. Can’t drop a site from the search results for x without others at least knowing.
    I think that the ease of administering huge empires of very heterogeneous things leads to those huge empires.

    I think there’s a perhaps unrecognized villain in modern corporate behavior. This villain was a hero for decades. He has grown too big, though, and the adaptive economic system has adapted in a way that is quasi-monopolistic across the board

    Who is this two-faced giant? His name is Stock Portfolio. He was the genius who invented his own superpower, which he generously lets anyone use. That power is, of course, Portfolio Theory. You can google, or duck, or yahoo, or bing, or lookup in a solid paper textbook to learn more. The negative effect of portfolio ownership is that companies do not compete. If I own \$1 billion each in Apple and Google, why would I want them to compete? That’d be dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb. I want them to make money by screwing consumers. I want them to either co-opt or crush any start-up that might rise and dethrone them.

    The whole economy is like that. So much stock is held in portfolios that corporations’ strategy reflects that. Every member of Congress gets the same message from every lobbyist. Make a pleasant business climate, regulate away (it strangles new entrants), but no taxing us, please; it is so very taxing on the corporate body. Why can companies afford lobbyists, being woke, and AA? Because they don’t have to compete. Many regulations kick in at a certain number of employees: companies can find gem start-ups to buy, but the start-up has difficulty expanding to the next Google. Also, they like small businesses. Are there any restaurant chains where every location has a Michelin star? I’ve never heard of it. Fancy restaurants are usually sole-proprietorships or tiny empires, how many locations can one chef really oversee? They don’t mind you doing most anything that does not impinge on them or threaten their non-monopoly.

    This applies to Big Tech, but it also applies to Big Burger, Big Home Improvement Store…even if a start-up or regional company gets a lot bigger, those newly rich investors are going to buy lots of other stock through index funds, at minimum. What do you want to bet that people who own a lot of McDonald’s own or are looking to own In and Out Burger? There is probably some financial equivalent of thermal motion that quantifies how quickly ownership spreads until it is all investors own stock equivalent to index funds – the heat death of capitalism.

    I guess this could be empiricalized by noting how many of the same people serve on both boards of “competing” companies. Does anyone have access to knowing the major investors in Google and Apple? How many people own both? Is this your fault, Jack? A bit, I mean, if you own an index fund, you own shares of competing companies.

    Even foreign companies are probably heavily owned by some of the same people who own lots of “competing” American companies.

    There is one super team I can think of holding Stock Portfolio back that is usually cast as a villain, and he is if you have used portfolio theory to grow richer at lower risk. Stock Options are each in one company. They have to be worth something before being cashed out into a portfolio. But how much of a company’s traded price depends on how its sector is doing?

    People who know more than me, are stock options enough to keep companies competing in the manner Adam Smith says leads to everyone being better off? Is it good? Like, do monopolies innovate more? cooperate in a socially responsible way?

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
  110. Jack D says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    Thanks. The schizophrenic nature of the system has actually enabled it to survive – when placed under stress such as by the Great Depression it can bend without breaking – we can SAY that we have the same Constitution even though the post New Deal federal government was nothing like the pre-New Deal one. In Europe at the same time, guys like Hitler and Mussolini just tore up the old constitutions. The Constitution has been completely rewritten to include all sorts of “Constitutional rights” that were never contemplated by the Founding Fathers and indeed would have horrified them (gay marriage) but without changing a single word. A neat trick.

    But it is a sort of punctuated equilibrium where the pendulum swings back and forth between the revolutionary and reactionary elements. Once the New Deal revolution took place it became the status quo and no further revolutions were permitted to replace it. Mao believed in CONTINUOUS revolution. He understood that once the revolutionaries got comfortable wielding the power of the previous elites, they would just become new elites and equally self serving and corrupt. His solution was to keep shaking things up for everyone (everyone expect himself ). This REALLY resulted in chaos (as in millions of dead) and Maoism had to end.

    But in the US, what determines when we change gears from stasis to revolution? Generally speaking it is when the system is placed under stress somehow.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  111. @AndrewR

    You’re stupid. Double the workforce–halve the wages–double the profits.

    You don’t understand capitalism.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  112. @Achmed E. Newman

    What you don’t understand about capitalism is that it inevitably winds up as monopoly. And it can’t function without government handouts. You really don’t understand capitalism. Of course we have capitalism in the US right now. It’s all corporate monopolies. The apotheosis, zenith, and culmination of all, not some, but all, capitalisms everywhere throughout history.

  113. anon[267] • Disclaimer says:

    In the book Smoke and Mirrors: An Experience of China, Indian author Pallavi Aiyar who lived in China for a number of years working as a journalist noted many differences between “authoritarian” China and “democratic” India, among the most interesting was this observation:

    The Chinese government knows that as they are not elected by the people, their only way to retain legitimacy is by serving the people. Therefore, they are very responsive and sensitive to the citizens’ complaints. In comparison, the Indian government can claim their legitimacy by way of election(even if mostly through false, empty promises and corruption), they get away with doing nothing for the people once elected.

    The same can be said of “democratic” America.

    In China, the government controls big business. In America, big business controls the government. As Calvin Coolidge once told us, “The business of America, is business.” This is not a real country, it is a giant profit maximizing corporation pretending to be a country.

    Democracy is the greatest scam in the history of politics. There are no real democracies in the world. Since the time of Athens, all democracies are essentially plutocracies — government by the rich. All democracies are essentially the best government money can buy. It takes a strong, autocratic leader like Xi or Putin to put the rich in their place and serve the people. Democratic leaders need their \$ and influence to win elections, so they can’t afford to piss off the rich. We thought if we put a billionaire in office, he would be free of such coercion from the plutocrats, but alas, he too, has his billion dollar empire to protect.

  114. I hate to tell ya, but China is still fully communist.

    How can you tell?

    The government owns the banks.

    I rest my case.

  115. @Achmed E. Newman

    I had not wanted to go on any longer in that one, but I can see where the reader (Corvinus too!) may have thought “what’s the big deal?” I only mentioned freedom from control regarding cell phones and internet.

    That book has the whole story, but I’ll just give a quick example of one of the Orwellian things that Mr. Strittmatter wrote about:

    Skynet is alive and running in China. Guess what the name of it is? Yeah, “skynet”, so they aren’t hiding this stuff. Cameras are in classrooms. I’m guessing some here have them, too, but it’s more than that. AI runs behind that (of many) network of cameras. They determine whether a kid is dozing in class or goofing off, the latter including things like reading a fun book secretly under the desk. Well, there are no secrets now, for the common population of China.

    If you think privacy is dead here, it is far deader in China.

  116. Alfa158 says:
    @Whiskey

    Sorry, but what anti-Black alliance? Latinos keep Blacks from engaging in monkeyshines in their neighborhoods but outside their own neighborhoods still vote with Blacks, not Dirt Whites. Unless that changes Whites will continue to be more disenfranchised.

  117. SafeNow says:
    @scrivener3

    Sobering. Thank you. But I am disappointed to hear that the authoritarian procedure is to generate a predetermined list of who is to be definitely shipped-off. I was assuming that someone with decision-making authority would show up at my house, and I would have the opportunity to put on what I call “the stupid look” and convince him that I am harmless. That look, plus lots of ums and yuhKnows and likes. But I guess the authoritarian template is that there is a list, and if you’re on it, that’s that; there is no audition; no due process in the traditional manner. Just shut up and come with us.

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  118. @Jack D

    Mao believed in CONTINUOUS revolution.

    Mao believed in rule by Mao. He’s not unique in his solipsistic political philosophy, but he was unusually successful for a ruler who probably killed off 10% of the people he ruled – he died in bed instead of coming to a violent end. I think you need to take his political pronouncements, like those of all political figures, tyrants and otherwise, with a grain of salt. He said what he needed to say to stay ahead of his rivals and blood enemies. Saying what you mean, and meaning what you say is a dangerous flaw in a politician interested in what Disraeli referred to as staying on “top of the greasy pole”. In Oriental tyrannies, it’s a short cut to an early grave.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  119. Weaver says:
    @AnotherDad

    The impression I get is “open” societies, which democracies seem to always be currently, are just taken over by Soros or another hostile foreign power.

    The result is then mass immigration. South Korea has taken in some immigrants. Japan is under pressure. It’s our country doing it. We’re at war to destroy everyone, including ourselves.

    So, even if China’s communism didn’t start as an authoritarian means of resisting the West, it might be justified somewhat today as just that. I certainly do not like Mao, don’t like aspects of current China, might well dislike many aspects if I knew more.

    But I’d fear a “pro-US” China would destroy the Chinese. I don’t like seeing every nation destroyed like that. So, I just want the US out of things, to the extent possible.

  120. Rob says:
    @James B. Shearer

    One big negative is that it hurts whites’ perception that hiring and promotion is fair and merit-based. Sure, it makes blacks think the company is fairer, but theirs don’t matter. AA is insidious because to maintain the perception of fairness, performance reviews have to be corrupted. Dishonest whites who can lie smoothly about the importance of AA. The company cannot use any objective measure for hiring, promotion or performance pay. As someone on Twitter said, reality is a bunch of inter-related threads. If you deny a small part of it, then you have to deny large chunks of it. Any objective measure will show blacks far behind.

    Incompetent blacks used to be tossed where they could do no harm: HR. But court case after court case came, and companies had to use HR as a shield in court, which meant it became a sword internally. Much like so many blacks in the federal Department of Education has rendered it the enemy of educating anyone, lots of blacks in HR means companies cannot hire effectively, because incompetents can’t judge competence very well. Sure Griggs hurt businesses who wanted to US IQ tests, but they still could. In practice, the black ladies in HR knew what IQ tests would show (because everyone knows) so they are not willing to try to validate them against objective measures of performance, because the company does not have those any longer. IQ correlates less well with subjective measures, but the subjective measures have all been corrupted.

    Companies desperately need better HR policies, but they cannot fire all the black deadwood, so they stumble along. At the high end, like Goldman Sachs, rumor had it every black employee sued for racial discrimination, though I don’t know the time frame.

    O-ring theory in economics is an attempt to explain why countries like Japan is producing ultra-pure silicon for companies around the world to make into chips, but some African countries struggle to produce dirt, quite literally, in coltan “mining” in the Congo. According to Wikipedia,“[O-ring theory] proposes that tasks of production must be executed proficiently together in order for any of them to be of high value. The key feature of this model is positive assortative matching, whereby people with similar skill levels work together.”

    Affirmative action assures that in companies complying with federal law there is always be someone dumb in the room. https://www.unz.com/isteve/navy-charges-sailor-with-arson-for-destroying-uss-bonhomme-richard/#comment-4809827 said a flaw in American management is thinking that near-competence is a solid .x/1 success rate (x less than 1) so they fireexpensive (white) Americans to hire cheaper but less competent in-sourced or out-sourced people. Do that a few times, and your customers grumble, but you make more money. Do it too many times, and your success rate drops to near-zero, and the company dies.

    One adaptation companies make is to require much “better” degrees from blacks than whites. Unless a job is “I work here, my skin is black, and my hair is tightly kinked” companies have learned that colleges sort, they do not improve. Though sorting is important, as O-ring theory states. Dartmouth(black) = Virginia Tech(white)

    Maybe the coincidence of AA and US xompanies losing market share and profits to Japanese ones is just coincidental, but it’s mighty coincidental.

    American government decided to test test O-ring theory, first by forcing companies to hire dumbs. The Japanese companies, hiring only Japanese, started eating “our” companies’ lunch. Then they decided to test out O-ring nation. Could they substitute half the population with non-whites and still have a first world country? Boy howdy, would a wealthy brown America show those racists! What’s the worst thing that could happen? We move to Israel or Switzerland”, they said.

    With AA incompetence being law of the land, no one in a company could say, “boss, the reason we’re failing to compete with the Japanese is affirmative action.” That was mean, that risked getting sued, and no one who said things like that lasted very long. Everyone else learned, and when management does not want to hear bad news they stop hearing it. But the bad events don’t stop happening.

    Not to mention, blacks do not even seem happier integrated, though they like the money. I think they see the cognitive gap, and it makes them angry that white dweebs who can’t even put da rock in da hole so intellectually outclass them. Diversity jobs rose to spare black egos and corporate bottom lines. They will do what HR did. Create a block in the pathway for realistic whites. Everyone will have to write diversity statements to get hired or promoted. There will be a snitch in every meeting.

    In education the corrupting effects of AA do not even need to be mentioned.

  121. @International Jew

    the government could reign them in

    We know you have an abundance of g, but please don’t waste it in places it doesn’t belong.

  122. Rob says:
    @anonymous

    I wonder if the American (lol) progs will copy China’s tutoring ban. If your kid goes to a half NAM school, there is a good chance the volume and chaos prevents much learning. Cali banned advanced math classes k-12, right? The dumbs are not taking calc classes, so I’m guessing the system will top out with exponentials and logarithms in twelfth grade.

    I suppose smart principals will track without calling it that. Creating an “Algebra I” class for the less than -1σ crowd, and it’s Cali, so probably two, one for the -1 to +1σ, one for 1 to 2σ, and a top level one if the school has enough Asians. In the lowest class, they spend time on fractions… in the top class they learn algebra through the lens of linear algebra and the algebra of calculus. How many smart principals does Cali have? Someone will notice one algebra class is all black, another…Asians. And one class averages 400 on SAT-M and another 700. They’ll get caught.

    How does Cal expect anyone to major in a hard science coming out of that system, if no one tweaks it. At it’s cruelest, hard math teaches people why they don’t want to pursue a math-intensive field. I don’t mean math should be made intentionally difficult. My math education was hurt by moving around and the injuries. But I don’t think those are what hold most kids back in math. Or English. Or history…

    Maybe the math thing is intended to drive whites and fancy Asians out of public schools, so NAMs (meaning Mexicans) can fire all the good teachers to replace them with other Latinxos and Latinxas? Mexican education is a funnier joke than American Ed, so I could see that. Certainly poor school performance joins crime in a duet blacks use to keep whites out of their ‘hoods, now cities. There should be some sort of real estate tax adjustment to compensate whites for the fantastic real estate blacks occupy for fantastically low rents/prices. Something that encourages better use of the land.

    What? They’d move to rural, redder areas? I meant, there should be a tax on whites who try to displace blacks from their historic homelands in the cores of Northern cities. Defunda Puh-lease! Black Wives Natter!

    Does China allow private schools for nationals?

  123. Mr. Blank says:

    My wife was making a small fortune teaching English to Chinese kids online before that whole industry got shut down. All the Tiger Moms in China meant she had a never-ending supply of students.

  124. The effects of “woke capital” can be seen in this map. California’s K-12 education has sunk to Delta levels, yet the state is the 14th “most educated”. Whereas states with much better schools– and students– e.g., Utah, Iowa, North Dakota, rank much lower. Clearly California is sucking in talent trained elsewhere.

    The top five states are Massachusetts, Maryland, Connecticut, Virginia, and New York, i.e., Harvard, Yale, the federal government, and Wall Street, all working as a vacuum hose.

    A hat tip to the teenage Estonian YouTuber Zimbax for finding that map, and many others. If you have trouble sleeping, check out his channel. Did you know only Russians and Norwegians prefer the US, and everyone else wants to move to Canada? Including Mexicans and Haitians:

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  125. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    “A problem facing the Chinese Communist Party is the question: What is Communism good for?

    Increasingly, Xi Jinping’s answer appears to be that Communism is good for keeping the foreign devils from degenerating our culture.”

    So Xi doesn’t even grasp the history of communism.
    That doesn’t surprise me in the slightest.
    He has always struck me as a nonentity, perhaps akin to some corporate kingpin lauded in the 80’s for climbing to the top of the heap and “making the hard choices” to keep the company profitable (back when the press lauded such people).

    World communism actually has a history and Xi doesn’t know it.
    He is literally that dumb.
    Totalitarian systems select for STUPID men who can adhere to rules.

    The infiltration of American popular culture played a crucial role in bringing down the Soviet
    Union and its subject states.
    And the good aspects of American popular culture still exist and are still known and increasingly known worldwide due to the internet.

    By contrast, no normal person anywhere admires the Chicom culture.
    (Overintellectual morons at places like this are not normal.)
    They might be fascinated by certain traditional pieces of Chinese culture, but the Chicoms reject ALL of that.

    Instead of promoting any sort of Chicom innovations, they instead crapify America popular culture!
    Everyone knows this!
    Blockbuster movies used to be, like, pretty good. Now they all suck. Blame China.
    You cannot make a movie today where the protagonist is a MAN who bucks the system and kicks ass and gets the girl. BLAME CHINA.

    (And blame others too, by all means.
    But don’t just blame, remedy the damn thing.)

    Chicom China is the true shithole nation.
    A speculative bubble seducing malcontents.

  126. Rob says:

    Did you know only Russians and Norwegians prefer the US, and everyone else wants to move to Canada? Including Mexicans and Haitians

    If you’ve been too hot all your life, heck, if it’s a hot summer day, it is hard to imagine what being too cold feels like. I have read that people who’ve spent time in Ant/Arctic winters forget what being that cold felt like.

    Haitians have good reason to want to move to Canada. Only in Canada is a bastardized French spoken. Well, there are African countries, but they are (all?) poorer than Haiti per capita, which is hard to imagine. Haiti is poised to become much poorer, as they have almost finished burning through their hardwood forests for charcoal. I don’t know why they cannot plant trees. Probably some tried, and other Haitians came and harvested them without doing the work. The tree planters learned a lesson on the need for enforceable property rights. There has been nigh-unbelievable erosion. Why they cannot plant ground cover, and things with roots is beyond me, too. They keep making bebes. On a national scale, too poor to have children is impossible, but to rich to have children is the norm in the first world. It could well be genetic. They have intermittent economic booms. Those come after a disaster when foreign aid falls off the backs of trucks.

    Haiti is likely near the Malthusian limit. If I remember correctly, at the dawn of the age of coal, Europe was considerably deforested, and loggers had to go further afield every year for firewood. The lifecycle of tree planting and harvesting does not match the human lifecycle very closely. Probably something that could be managed by corporations holding, planting, and harvesting plots out of phase, but that sort of thing is beyond Haitians.

    It’s s shame colonialism and white supremacy are so frowned upon these days. Progressives have a ton of energy for remaking society and forcing people into behaviors that are unnatural for them. The third world could really use whites telling them what to do. That is pretty much the mandate of every international NGO, is it not? Do they hire nonwhite faces to deal with the locals? Like, “I Sebastien, speak to these strange white gods, and I will tell you the prayers to say when you are with the ones they call “doctors” to get magical foods they call “medicine.” Translators make the world work together or go to war!

    It’s a win for the progs, too. They get to be surrounded by the non-whites they crave, eat exotic food, “this clay dish, you say it is eaten raw, without spices? Yes, another!” and never see a white conservative. What’s that? Oh, the progs want your face rubbed in diversity, not theirs? Well, it was nice clearing that up.

  127. @Peter Johnson

    The Chinese Government governs for the Chinese people, and the rest of humanity, too. The West is interested only in power, dominance, looting and other ineffable ‘moral values’. Popular Western ‘culture’ is degenerate and exploitative, so, naturally, the Chinese see it as pernicious and dangerous. The Chineseare building an ecological, humane and internationalist state, and more power to them in their struggle with Western Evil. The Chinese fully recognise that much of that created in the West is not poisonous, and they are happy to learn from that.

  128. Like many nations that embraced communism, the secret ingredient that initially led to the embrace was nationalism—the people united around the commies because they were kicking out foreign invaders/occupiers (e.g. Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea).

    China was no exception; Mao got lots of support from people sick of the horrific Japanese occupiers and Western nationals who had long picked at China and at the ineffectual Western-sympathetic Chinese leaders who couldn’t dislodge either.

    Mao also rejected the traditional communist obsession with industrialized workers as his backbone, and instead rallied the farming peasants as his base. And such rural dirt farmers in every nation tend to be very nationalistic and tradition.

    Chinese leaders haven’t really forgotten this, which is why the smarter ones usually have big large returns to “traditional” values and nationalism, to the chagrin of other, city-obsessed commies. This move by China is keeping in line with that.

  129. @Buzz Mohawk

    Plus there is often times a yawning gulf between the words and actions of politicians. Just listen to any American politician during campaign season. I don’t have any particular reason to expect Xi is much different.

    The Chinese have also proven adept at throwing barbs at the West couched in the West’s own self-critical terms, (racism, etc.) when in reality the Chinese don’t give two figs about Woke ideology .

    What American commentators think Xi means and what he actually intends to do and for what reason may be vastly different.

  130. @Anon

    Ecuador uses the US dollar as its currency, but it does not have the ability to print new dollars.

    The path to prosperity for any Nation depends on having its currency as an international reserve currency and being able to print money at will, or at least be able to manufacture or mine products that can be sold profitably to other countries.

    Ecuador has a little bit of prosperity, because it sells most of its oil production to China.

    It has occurred to me that if Ecuador announced that tomorrow everything will be doubled in price and all wages will be doubled, then the country would be more prosperous, as everybody would have more dollars to buy stuff from Amazon and import it, but of course this is economically nonsensical.

    Very few people understand why some nations are rich and other nations are poor, although the basics are simple. For example why are the Saudi Arabians rich and the Haitians poor? What could the Haitians do to make themselves more like the Saudis? Import camels?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  131. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    If whiteness is associated with intelligence, why is W. Va. #48? I guess not all white people are created alike. Or maybe anyone who gets educated leaves W.Va. ? It sticks out like a sore thumb in the blue mid-Atlantic states. It should at least be in the 30s like its neighbors to the west and south, Kentucky, TN, etc.

    How could the situation in W. Va. be improved?

    • Replies: @epebble
    , @J.Ross
  132. Anonymous[111] • Disclaimer says:
    @SafeNow

    I can’t prove it, but I think most Americans would say they would be happy to pay a fair price increase to get high-quality merchandise.

    This is what I saw:

    In a small town I once lived in, there were two main big-box retailers: Wal-mart and another store. The other store was not as cheap as Wal-mart, but it wasn’t overpriced, either, and one look at their merchandise was enough to tell you that what this store was offering was worth the extra 50 cents or so they were charging for it.

    (And the price differences really were that trivial.)

    Guess which store went under? If you guessed Wal-mart, well…take another guess.

    Based on what I have seen in the shops, I do not believe that the majority of 21st century Americans understand concepts like opportunity cost (i.e. the time you spend returning shoddy merchandise cannot be spent doing other things). Rather, all they understand is that Product X is \$1.29 and Product Y is \$1.79, therefore Product X is the “better” product.

    That is why when you go to Wal-mart to buy, say, a pair of jeans, the jeans are so cheap: companies will, quite often, put out special, cut-rate versions of products designed specifically for Wal-mart because the companies (and Wal-mart) believe that consumers shop according to cost, not according to quality.

    Are they right? I cannot say for sure, but the amount of money they make selling crap, second-rate gear seems to indicate that they are. Consider: if American consumers were, for the most part, willing to pay more for higher quality merchandise, wouldn’t another retailer offering that kind of merchandise have eaten Wal-mart’s lunch long ago?

    (Of course, it is possible that Americans might say they are willing to meet higher prices for better quality stuff, but balk when it comes time to pay those higher prices.)

    • Thanks: Showmethereal
    • Replies: @Rob
  133. @Achmed E. Newman

    There was a big change he could have done using the FCC regarding Section 230 of the Communications Act.

    People keep talking about what Trump could have done. Everything he did or tried to do was either not supported by his own party, ignored by the permanent bureaucracy, or blocked by some judge.

    I’ll say this for Trump–he sure lifted the curtain on how things really work in this country.

    • Agree: scrivener3
    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
  134. @AndrewR

    Affirmative action, like a lot of other regulations, actually works to the benefit of large corporations, who can afford the overhead to manage these programs, and to the detriment of smaller companies and start-ups, which cannot afford these costs. A lot of supposedly “liberal” social programs and regulations really act as barriers to entry to anyone trying to disrupt the status quo. It is interesting that left libertarianism is not more of a thing, it does make philosophical sense (if you really believe blacks can compete on a more level playing field).

    • Agree: Gabe Ruth
  135. @Harry Baldwin

    You’re ignoring the part where the only thing Trump really tried to do was enrich his inner circle and get re-elected. It is still unclear whether a populist President who actually tried to rally more than a narrow base to the cause might be more successful. Trump was doomed to fail because he is inherently lazy, is a bad judge of personnel, and at the end of the day just doesn’t give a shit about actual results as long as his ego is not damaged, as his disastrous business career showed time and time again.

  136. epebble says:
    @Jack D

    How could the situation in W. Va. be improved?

    Well, the contrast with Virginia is stark. So, if we delete the border and call the whole place Virginia, the problem goes away in an instant!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  137. @Anon

    I honestly think that America would be better off if it were run by the Chinese Communist Party.

    If you want gun control, no school choice, and lower social security then go for it. I think you’re crazy. Since most Americans on the right live in exurban areas where sexual deviants and BLM aren’t much of an issue anyway, adopting the CCP program means trading away real freedoms you enjoy today in exchange for protection from abstract threats. Doesn’t seem like a good deal.

    • Agree: bombthe3gorgesdam
  138. @Jonathan Mason

    “Very few people understand why some nations are rich and other nations are poor, although the basics are simple. For example why are the Saudi Arabians rich and the Haitians poor? “

    A simple answer would be “natural resources”, but why then aren’t the Congolese rich?

    The basics aren’t that simple. A billion people with an IQ of 105 were pretty poor before 2000.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/when-the-world-opened-the-gates-of-china-1532701482

  139. @Rob

    Your posts are generally good, but you should consider two things: 1) learn to use the “more” tag and 2) use an editor. This post was almost 800 words. Surely you could make your point(s) in 200 words or so?

    I’m not trying to be a dick – like I said I generally find your comments worth reading, but this and your prior one are much too long.

    • Replies: @Rob
  140. Rob says:
    @Anonymous

    The Americans who are not so price-sensitive know not to shop at Wal-Mart. The market has segmented, just like the labor market. People who haven’t had a raise since the seventies, and have “maintained” their standard of living by having fewer kids and more working adults, all while rents go up, education, even training, became unaffordable, and I won’t mention healthcare, those people shop at Wall-Mart because they need pants now, else the cops will arrest them. They just cannot afford better. It is only because of Wal-Mart that they can afford any? Yes, it is somewhat ironic that they lost manufacturing jobs because they moved to China, so China could produce for Wal-Mart very cheaply that people who just lost their job in a factory could afford.

    Laugh if you will, but the Great Immiseration is coming for the wordy classes. You know how they have, I forget what they’re called, in your zoom call you can have a cat face or on Facetime you can be a piece of poo, well when will they develop those for accents? When any Indian can have a midwestern accent on the phone…

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  141. Rob says:
    @William Badwhite

    Yes. You are right about both. Thing, is i don’t know where my comments are going until i’ve written them.

    • LOL: William Badwhite
  142. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    … but there are dumb jews so i guess the nobels were never awarded …
    … by the way, for a backwater, wv has cranked out a few aces somehow … some have germanic names so maybe they’re … you know …

    • Replies: @Jack D
  143. @Rob

    OfI don’t think there is any significant difference in quality between the clothes sold in Walmart and in other stores.

    Both Walmart and the other stores are usually overpriced, but Walmart less so.

    I have a polo shirt that I was wearing yesterday that I bought in Walmart’s Sam’s Club 26 years ago, and it is just as good as it was.

    Mostly I buy clothes in thrift stores. You can often find clothing that has never been worn for about 1/10 of the price of retail. The key is to just look at the item and the quality of the material and manufacture and ignore the brand names.

    Even items that sell for expensive prices online are usually wildly overpriced.

    For example I have a pair of brand name sandals that sell for \$60 on Amazon and I had had them no time before the straps started to separate from the foot bed, because they were only glued in place, and of course in warm weather glue soon deteriorates, especially when shoes are subjected to harsh activity such as being on a foot that is walking.

    I had them repaired by a shoe repairer who sewed all the junctions between the upper straps and the footbed with strong thread, and the shoes lasted fine until the sole fell off one of them, but I was able to glue it back in place with contact cement and it has been okay since and the laceration to my knee from the fall soon healed up.

    It probably would have cost the manufacturers \$1 more to have the shoes made properly in the first place. I would happily pay \$10 more to have the shoes made properly, but manufacturers have no pride in their product these days.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Anonymous
  144. Tex says:
    @Triteleia Laxa

    It’s a tactic, a trope if you will. You contrast someone who is generally regarded as awful with someone else who is also awful, but for various reasons gets a pass.

    A reference to Xi and China’s political system is basically shorthand for “corrupt totalitarian state.” That’s not a fact one has to establish, it’s just a perception. A reasonably common one in my experience.

    What makes it striking is that the corrupt totalitarian is denouncing a major destructive force in America that is commonly celebrated by our elites. “Look, even a dictator like Xi knows that woke capital is bad news.” Call it the “Even Evil Has Standards” trope.

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvenEvilHasStandards

    It ain’t rocket science.

  145. @epebble

    So, if we delete the border and call the whole place Virginia, the problem goes away in an instant!

    Old burgesses in the Old Dominion insist there never was a true border, just a string of county lines across which there were tax evaders and unlicensed stills.

    West Virginia Weekend: Is the State Itself Unconstitutional?

    [MORE]

  146. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    Not everything is about the Joos. W. Va. seems like an outlier – a heavily white state but one that is very low in educational achievement. I was looking for a serious explanation, not trying to put down the dumb goyim of W. Va. Why is Switzerland Switzerland while W. Va. is W. Va.?

  147. Jack D says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    You can still buy proper shoes but they are going to cost you a lot more than \$10 extra.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  148. syonredux says:

    while letting big companies grow too powerful, leading to inequality, social injustice and other threats to social stability.

    ….A pretty decent description of WOKEism….

  149. @Johann Ricke

    Mao was kind of a rock star by the rather drab standards of the Chinese.

  150. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    “Mao was kind of a rock star by the rather drab standards of the Chinese.”
    Meow.

  151. JMcG says:
    @Jack D

    It’s getting harder and harder. Allen Edmonds has gone downhill fast the last few years. Redwing still makes some good boots and shoes, but most of their stuff is now crep as well.

  152. Anonymous[111] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    It probably would have cost the manufacturers \$1 more to have the shoes made properly in the first place. I would happily pay \$10 more to have the shoes made properly, but manufacturers have no pride in their product these days.

    To be fair to Western firms, my understanding is that at least some (it is difficult to quantify just how much) of what you are seeing there is the phenomenon of “quality fade.”

    (If that has been discussed here before, you can forego reading the below, as you’ll already be familiar with the idea.)

    A US shoe-making firm can set a specification for their China-made shoes, but that is no guarantee that the Chinese factory will continue to adhere to it as time goes on. Quite often, a Chinese factory will bid for business at a price below their own cost just to get the Westerners in the door and over to the bargaining table.

    It’s after the Westerners have signed on the dotted line that the fun begins.

    After a few months’ “honeymoon period,” the problems start. Unbeknownst to the client firm, the Chinese manufacturer begins e.g. using thinner material than specified, simplifying/skipping steps, foregoing QA inspections, etc. The idea being to shave pennies whenever possible, pocket the difference, and still continue to collect money for making goods that are not quite shoddy enough on the surface to incur the wrath of the Westerners.

    The only firms that do not seem to have quality problems in China are those that hire an army of QA inspectors to roam the factory floor and stop the nonsense before it starts. Otherwise, they can expect to start getting nickel-and-dimed to death in no time.

    Meanwhile, the Chinese factory owners are out hustling for new business for the factory that Western dollars helped build. If they get it, the Westerners they were initially so anxious to please suddenly aren’t so important as the whole game begins anew with a different set of clients.

    In essence, it is long-term thinking vs. short-term thinking, with the Westerners thinking largely in terms of next quarter whilst the Chinese are thinking decades ahead. The whole affair is both depressing and hilarious (or at least it would be hilarious were the future of the West not at stake).

  153. AndrewR says:
    @obwandiyag

    You’re much stupider. On average black employees aren’t even worth half of a white employee, except maybe for the simplest jobs. Affirmative action is a profit killer.

    • Agree: JMcG
    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  154. @Tex

    Thanks alot!

    Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton recently ended a suspension of the Open Meetings Act ..

    Sunshine laws apply, except when politicians say they don’t. Government transparency at its finest.

  155. @SafeNow

    Stasi Agent to citizen just hauled into the offices: you have to be detained.
    Citizen: I haven’t done anything, I am completely innocent, ask me anything, I have nothing to hide.
    Stasi Agent: Are you saying that you believe the government detains innocent people?

  156. @Buzz Mohawk

    Ummm – where did Xi mention anywhere at all that you should foloow the same model??? Nowhere. China is not a socialism evangelist. In spite of what Mike Pompeo and Ted Cruz say – China isnt trying to change the US system

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  157. @Showmethereal

    Did I say he was? No. When the leader (appointed FOR LIFE) of the world’s most populated nation makes a statement full of bullshit, the world listens, and I am free to call him on it. Why? Because I live HERE, where I still can. (Not there.) Capiche?

    • Replies: @Showmethereal
  158. Anonymous[313] • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR

    I’m not sure. The burdens of AA fall more heavily on smaller companies than larger ones. The big ones can absorb the costs. The small ones can’t.

    We also see this with environmental issues, with big companies supporting ‘green’ policies that seem altruistic, but which actually have the effect of crippling their smaller rivals.

    We can probably generalize this: any new government policy that handicaps business will tend to increase business consolidation, with larger corporations taking over smaller ones that can’t compete under the new burden.

  159. @scrivener3

    Have you ever been to China? Do you know what is hidden and not hidden? Or do you rely on that cult founded Epoch Times for your info?

  160. @houston 1992

    TSMC is not what is important to China about Taiwan… Where do you guys get this stuff?? If Taiwan aided by the west attempys2 to declare formal independence that will mean US troops at China’s front door again (they left the island in the 1970’s). Westerners do not understand the seriousness of the issue. It would be a replay of McCarthy thinking China wouldnt attack as the US approached the Yalu River in the Korean War. That was a bad miscalculation. TSMC is nothing in the grand scheme. China would absolutely sacrifice the semiconductor supply chain to prevent Taiwan being a foreign military base. It is that serious. Russia doesnt have the most advanced chips – but it has its own industry. And no it wouldnt take decades. Maybe a full decade to completely catch up. By then there will be completely new processes which actually makes incumbents lose some of their advantage.. In the past China didnt focus on the semiconductor industry and was happy to buy from foreigners. But the US attempt to destroy Huawei changed that calculus.
    In China the semiconductor industry is literally being compared to the atom bomb and space. I dont mean just by geeks – but in the state media. Once the Soviets cut China off the west thought it would take decades if ever for China to develop its own. It took a few years. Then in record time it developed a hydrogen bomb after. The cou try is calling for the same determination and linking it to national security. Most in the industry in the west believe it will take 5 years for full self sufficiency (It has almost caught up in photoresits already) and maybe 10 to fully catch up. Askm he ASML CEO even.
    Either way I can assure you TSMC is WAY down the line of consideration on whether to go to war over Taiwan.

  161. Smith says:

    All support to Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party.

    Down with all the capitalists, such as Tencent, NetEase, ByteDance, Evergrande, reform them or disband them. No more exploitations of asians!

  162. @Rob

    Ok but how will you recompense for the sins of the nation? Isnt the US supposed to have Christian values?? Well one of them is paying restitution for wrongs to avoid the destruction thay comes along with punishment. Unless you believe there was never any discrimination and slavery was ok. Then I would ask where you get your bible interpretations…

  163. @Buzz Mohawk

    Oh… So just bloviation. I got it.

  164. @AndrewR

    Another one of them who doesn’t understand a word I said. Sheesh.

    You be fatuous to a fault.

    A very common malady hereabouts.

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