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From the New York Times:

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But how can this affluent suburb in Finland be the world’s happiest town when it’s deplorably lacking in Diversity?

Granted, in a photo of the school, one student looks kind of East Asian, so they’ve got that going for them. But, still …

In a related conundrum, consider another happy town: Whoville. Is The Grinch a Who? Or are Grinches and Whos different species?

Update: iSteve commenter Jaakko Raipala explains:

Submitted on 2018/12/26 at 11:34 pm

Kauniainen is not an ordinary town, it is a private community for the super wealthy that pretends to be a small town (it still has some legacy ordinary residents like farmer families who have owned land for generations there). It is the richest town in Finland by a large margin. Here’s a list of all municipalities in Finland by per capita income (it’s in Finnish but you can just look at the list, note that they bolded and separated Kauniainen at the top for whatever reason):

https://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/a/2015121920856681

The NYT’s town has an average income about 60% higher than the second most affluent town in Finland. It’s kind of like living in the gated community of Beverly Park with Mark Wahlberg, Sly Stallone, and Barry Bonds, but with less steroids.

The difference would be *massively* bigger if you could compare accumulated wealth of the residents but it’s much harder to get this information.

Kaunianen is essentially a part of the Helsinki metropolitan area that has been sectioned to be its own mini-town so that the money class can live by different rules than the rest of us. The town is known for such things as the lowest tax rates, least funded government services and the best funded private clubs and of course low diversity combined with high votes for pro-diversity parties.

The New York Times tries to paint a marvelous picture of northern European Social Democracy by going to the one town in Finland that only exists to so that the elite can opt out of Social Democracy and minimize taxes, social services, diversity and everything else that the NYT praises about northern European Social Democracies. I wonder whether they know what they’re doing – are they trying to fool America or have they actually fooled themselves?

The NYT should profile lessons we can learn from Beverly Park.

Either way, I love to hear about Finnish happy egalitarianism from foreign journalists who travel to the most resented exclusive elite town where no working class Finn could afford to live and who visit exclusive clubs that you can’t join unless your family can afford massive donations. I also love it that tons of gullible Americans hear about this amazing number of well-funded clubs that are “subsidized by the government” and they imagine that this is some socialist utopia where such facilities are provided to the ordinary person free of charge.

Though a while ago there was a big political scandal when the government actually tried to put a “refugee reception center” in Kaunianen. It was lobbied by some rich guy who thought he would make big money out of renting his properties to the government. The outrage of the Kaunianen residents caused much joy in Finnish dissident right sites since everyone knows that Kaunianen is full of rich liberals with often purely inherited wealth who love diversity and who hate nationalism.

 
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  1. False consciousness. They just don’t realize how happy they’re not.

    • LOL: Rob McX
  2. In this single small town, there are over 100 sports and cultural clubs, all of them subsidized in some way by the local council: clubs for the Swedish-speaking minority, clubs for the Finnish majority,

    There you have it.
    The majority has its own club separate from the minority. Happiness ensues.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @Truth
    No. I'd say most wealthy neighborhoods tend to be happy.

    And they get more participation in the orgies.
  3. The Grinch is a TWMNBN of course.

  4. Granted, in a photo of the school, one student looks kind of East Asian, so they’ve got that going for them.

    Could be a Lapp. They often look kind of Oriental.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sámi_people

    • Replies: @Zoodles
    Nordics sometimes have epicanthic folds. Take a look at Bjork.
    , @Twinkie
    Finns are partly Siberian/East Asian and have the elevated suicide rate to go with those genes.
    , @Autochthon
    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/12/590x/Renee-Zellweger-new-face-526088.jpg

    "Say, Doc, I'm tired of being strikingly beautiful in my unique way; what kind of specials are running? I'm looking for something that says 'Skeletor is Mildly Surprised..'"

    It's not quite the same as what one finds in Orientals. It's gorgeous. Like red hair and alabaster skin, there is something Ur-European about it.
  5. Finnish humor is wierdly similar to that of Australians, it’s often a lot of point-blank pisstaking.

  6. Isn’t the message that the Grinch assimilated to Whoville by becoming a bleeding heart liberal? Probably better not to use Seuss to illustrate your ideas.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Wait, wait, wait--I get it. The Grinch is actually (((The Grinch))), right?
  7. It’s even worse than that. They’d probably not be happier to accept masses of low skilled workers from other white countries, Richard Spencer explained that this makes them insane as all white people are interchangeable.

  8. white males cannot satisfy their women

    This is evidenced by the rampant cheating of white women

    https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/07/dna-test-misattributed-paternity/562928/

  9. @Chrisnonymous
    Isn't the message that the Grinch assimilated to Whoville by becoming a bleeding heart liberal? Probably better not to use Seuss to illustrate your ideas.

    Wait, wait, wait–I get it. The Grinch is actually (((The Grinch))), right?

    • Replies: @CrunchybutRealistCon
    Madame Lerner-Spectre's memo didn't make to Finland clearly.
    There's no way that Finland can survive without converting to the multicultural mode.
    , @Rosie

    Wait, wait, wait–I get it. The Grinch is actually (((The Grinch))), right?
     
    Nah. The (((Grinch))) would pass as a regular Who. The Grinch is a Who suffering from some sort of physical deformity, as a result of which he feels rejected, not without some reason, and has become a misanthrope (a miswhope?)
  10. C’mon, Steve, where’s our article on ‘Wruble’s Revenge’?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Is she related to the famous painter?
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Vrubel_Demon.jpg
    ...
    Not seeing anything, and it appears to have been a somewhat common name. Does it mean something like "in the cut"?
  11. @Digital Samizdat

    Granted, in a photo of the school, one student looks kind of East Asian, so they’ve got that going for them.
     
    Could be a Lapp. They often look kind of Oriental.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sámi_people

    Nordics sometimes have epicanthic folds. Take a look at Bjork.

    • Replies: @Saxon
    We rarely have "hooded eyes." It's a different look. Bjork is probably part Eskimo or something.
  12. What’s the happiest town in the US?

    National City?

  13. Oh, come on. Kauniainen has nothing on Trashcan Trashigang. Just look at this happy building:

    The high happiness quotient of Bhutan may indeed be the result of cleansing her of Nepalese, but you can’t have an omelet without breaking some VeganEggs, can you?

    The ethnic cleansing hidden behind Bhutan’s happy face

  14. @Anonymous
    C'mon, Steve, where's our article on 'Wruble's Revenge'?

    Is she related to the famous painter?


    Not seeing anything, and it appears to have been a somewhat common name. Does it mean something like “in the cut”?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/womens-march-as-coalition-of-the-fringes-in-action/

    http://www.jewishpress.com/news/us-news/chicago-womens-march-cancelled-over-ties-to-illinois-nazi-farrakhan/2018/12/26/
  15. The scary, actually terrifying, thing is that the readers of the NYTimes believe that high taxes and subsidized yoga classes will work just as well anywhere on earth and that if you took 1000 people from Muslim North Africa and put them in this town, everything would turn out just fine – as long as you kept those subsidized yoga classes.

    • Agree: GermanReader2
    • Replies: @istevefan

    The scary, actually terrifying, thing is that the readers of the NYTimes believe that high taxes and subsidized yoga classes will work just as well anywhere on earth...
     
    Somewhat along those lines there are people who think that if you gave the American Constitution to any country on Earth you could recreate the USA. I used to be of the opinion that maybe we should give that a try. Then Steve pointed out Puerto Rico.
  16. @Digital Samizdat

    Granted, in a photo of the school, one student looks kind of East Asian, so they’ve got that going for them.
     
    Could be a Lapp. They often look kind of Oriental.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sámi_people

    Finns are partly Siberian/East Asian and have the elevated suicide rate to go with those genes.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    The Finnish suicide rate ranked number 32 in the world in 2015, with a host of far more diverse countries ahead of them.
  17. Trying to list all the good things this picture shows is like trying to figure out all the words you can spell using the letters in antidisestablishmentarianism.

  18. Considering the “economic cleansing” that certain liberal cities have been doing, it doesn’t suprise me the Finns are happy AND undiverse.

  19. @Chrisnonymous
    Wait, wait, wait--I get it. The Grinch is actually (((The Grinch))), right?

    Madame Lerner-Spectre’s memo didn’t make to Finland clearly.
    There’s no way that Finland can survive without converting to the multicultural mode.

  20. The East Asian is probably Karelian. Some Finns look like that.

    • Replies: @Tsingis Kaani
    No he isn't and no we don't. It's an asian kid.
    , @Jaakko Raipala
    Some random Karelians:

    https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload//w_1198,h_674,f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto/13-3-5375364.jpg

    Some Orthodox Karelians from Russia who've been separated from Finns and Karelians in Finland for centuries but who to me look like strikingly stereotypical Karelians (and not like west-Finns or Russians):

    http://www.sakkola.fi/tietokanta/uploads/SK%20220%20Tverin%20karjalaiset%20kulkueessa%2015.6.1997.jpg

    Karelian = karjalainen and you can google more with that.

    Karelians do not look any more Asian than western Finns do. They have the same 5-10 % Asian component that's typical for Finnic peoples.

    The reason there is so much confusion about this is that old European racial standards tended to classify Finns as Asian. Not part Asian but full Asian. Europeans were long confused about Asians racially since in European geographical classification Arabia, India and China are all "Asia". Before photography there were people working on racial classification who didn't actually realize that Indians and Chinese look rather different.

    Von Linné who started modern racial classification described black Africans, red native Americans and white Europeans in a form that's pretty good even today because he had good reports from colonies but he and other theorists were hopelessly confused about Asia since they tried to combine descriptions from India, China, Arabia etc all in one "Asian" race. Unfortunately, we live in a time where it was decided that thinking about this is evil so categorizing Asians and peoples like Finns who are in between European and Asian was halted at a confused state.

  21. Not OT just oblique.

    Brookings Institute: US Population Growth Hits an 80-Year Low, Capping Off a Year of Demographic Stagnation.

    Despite the fact that immigration to America is actually lower now than it was during the last decade, the ratio of immigration to natural increase was 50% lower then than now. Today, they are nearly equal. Both immigration and natural increase are falling fast, which confirms my oft-repeated assertion that mass immigration simply depopulates the world in a few generations. It does not result in more children being born in either the sending countries or the receiving countries; it only swells the increasingly infertile adult population of the cities.

    • Replies: @mr. wild
    "Their data show that the national rate of population growth is at its lowest since 1937, a result of declines in the number of births, gains in the number of deaths, and that the nation’s under age 18 population has declined since the 2010 census."

    Didn't enviros spend nearly half a century waiting for such statistics? Oh yeah, I forgot.


    "Geographical mobility hits a postwar low"

    Oh the humanity! Our bountiful churn! We'll miss all the globocrud when it's gone.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    Why do we need to add a million a year to our population at all? Isn't 330,000,000 enough already?


    https://i1.wp.com/www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/12.21.18_Metro_Frey_Figure-2.png?w=768&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C9999px&ssl=1


    And why can't Brookings give a link that shows up graphically, instead of forcing you to click?

    , @AnotherDad

    Despite the fact that immigration to America is actually lower now than it was during the last decade, the ratio of immigration to natural increase was 50% lower then than now. Today, they are nearly equal. Both immigration and natural increase are falling fast, which confirms my oft-repeated assertion that mass immigration simply depopulates the world in a few generations.
     
    It's hard to know about the immigrants. Some groups tend--1st generation--to have more children in the rich USA/West than they would at home, where birth rates are falling.


    What mass immigration clearly does is suppress fertility--and particularly the natural fertility recovery--in the recieving West.

    Affordable family formation is tougher. How can we afford a house in a neighborhood with "good schools". People feel less neighborly, less less hopeful, less connected to their neighbors, their nation, their future. It's a slow motion genocide.
    , @Trevor H.

    Both immigration and natural increase are falling fast, which confirms my oft-repeated assertion that mass immigration simply depopulates the world in a few generations.
     
    Right. Get back to us when either the U.S. or the World Population figures actually decrease, even a tiny bit.
    , @Endgame Napoleon
    If those obsessed with demographics were serious, they would campaign against womb-productivity-based monthly welfare and the colossal unfairness in the progressive tax code, which provides checks of up to $6,431 on top of the multi-layered monthly welfare benefits—checks that increase per child produced.

    They’re not serious. They put cheap, welfare-bouyed labor—i.e. workers able to work part time and temp jobs for low wages because of their unearned income from .gov—above.........everything.

    The demographic reversal was made possible by the reduction in monthly bills for single-breadwinner households—i.e. EBT X the number of persons per household, rental assistance that increases per kid birthed, electricity assistance and monthly cash assistance—for citizens and noncitizens who stay below the income limits for welfare.

    It was fueled by the cash-assistance checks, issued by the US Treasury Department, that many single moms call their “taxes.” Non-income tax payers often spend those checks on self-indulgent items, like tattoos and beach trips with boyfriends, not on their children.

    The whole ethos of being responsible for kids, and of growing up and living up to that responsibility, has been eviscerated by this system, along with the old demographic ratio.

    It has made marriage optional for womb producers, and it has made men expendable household members, albeit .gov is funding stay-at-home motherhood for many legal / illegal immigrants who have their own twist on working the welfare system.

    In the case of the legal / illegal immigrants, you almost always see male-breadwinner, single-earner households, with the moms showing up to apply for assistance at the Department of Human Services, carrying their US-born kids’ SS cards and evidence of income from a boyfriend or spouse.

    They bring the eight paycheck stubs required as proof of traceable income, falling below the income limits for the programs, whereas the US citizens who qualify are almost always single-breadwinner moms with their own paycheck stubs.

    They work part-time jobs for low wages that keep them continuously under the very / very low earned-income limit for welfare, or they apply only during months when they are not working in somewhat higher-paying temporary positions that put them over the income limits for those months, whereas the legal / illegal immigrants often have nothing but gig income. It is all in their work histories, which reflect the fact that they go in and out of churn jobs.

    This has created a job market where tons of citizens & noncitizens just need a little earned income to supplement womb-productivity-based unearned income from welfare programs and the US Treasury Department.

    To have middle-class household formation of any kind, including for single citizens without children, you need jobs that are not designed for the welfare-eligible.

    This rigged system has kept wages down for 40 years, and it has not resulted in 1) the family formation among the majority demographic that you seek or 2) the ability of many single, non-welfare-eligible, childless earners, with one earned-only income stream, to even cover the cost of rent.

    I am not saying that the single, childless citizens matter, but you womb producers pump out about 28% non-womb-producing offspring. And the impact of the rigged system can affect you in this way. Many retired US citizens have grown-** children living with them or, in some cases, living on their property in various types of dwellings. This includes college grads, even the ones with sheepskins from prestigious institutions.

    Rather than encouraging more white people to reproduce, Uniparty Democrats and Uniparty Republicans have set up a system that creates an incentive to reproduce in single-earner households.

    They have created a system, in which it is advantageous to keep two of the few household-supporting jobs in the USA under one roof, helping to halve the size of the college-educated middle class.

    They have created a wage-depressing situation where married couples, with a spouse working a low-wage part-time job to add keeping-up-with-the-Jones’ income to the household, are rewarded via the tax code, even though they have the same impact on wages as welfare-eligible single-breadwinner moms.

    So-called working parents who take a ton of time off in their family-friendly jobs would rather do anything than raise the children they produce. Those children are now raised by $9-per-hour daycare workers, NannyCams, low-wage babysitters and elderly retired-in-name-only grandparents.

    This setup has not been successful in other ways. A good indicator is the 300% increase in tbe frequency of mass shootings, including school shootings which are often carried out by children—children no longer raised by their parents.

    Uniparty Democrats and Republicans have created a welfare and tax system that is advantageous for legal and illegal, womb-producing immigrants, including non-English-speaking immigrants without the means to support even one child. Most reproduce immediately after entering a strange country, rather than waiting awhile to become acclimated. They do that because they are paid by the US government per child produced.

    White US citizens, and many Black citizens in the college-educated middle class, were raised, in most cases, with strong social pressure not to produce a bunch of kids they can’t afford to feed and house in middle-class style.

    They often wait to reproduce, feeling social pressure to acheive a type of middle-class security that is not available in this rigged system that was intentionally set up by the Democrats, with post-Reagan Republicans supporting it just as much as Democrats due to the cheap-labor streams for their campaign donors.

    Keep on rigging with more child tax credits and womb-productivity-based welfare. All who support it are not in the least serious about their demographic proselytizing.
  22. Us – Official Trailer [HD]

    After sending shockwaves across contemporary culture and setting a new standard for provocative, socially-conscious horror films with his directorial debut, Get Out, Academy Award®-winning visionary Jordan Peele returns with another original nightmare that he has written, directed and produced.

    Set in present day along the iconic Northern California coastline, Us, from Monkeypaw Productions, stars Oscar® winner Lupita Nyong’o as Adelaide Wilson, a woman returning to her beachside childhood home with her husband, Gabe (Black Panther’s Winston Duke), and their two children (Shahadi Wright Joseph, Evan Alex) for an idyllic summer getaway.

    Haunted by an unexplainable and unresolved trauma from her past and compounded by a string of eerie coincidences, Adelaide feels her paranoia elevate to high-alert as she grows increasingly certain that something bad is going to befall her family.

    After spending a tense beach day with their friends, the Tylers (Emmy winner Elisabeth Moss, Tim Heidecker, Cali Sheldon, Noelle Sheldon), Adelaide and her family return to their vacation home. When darkness falls, the Wilsons discover the silhouette of four figures holding hands as they stand in the driveway. Us pits an endearing American family against a terrifying and uncanny opponent: doppelgängers of themselves.

    Writer and director Peele produces for his Monkeypaw Productions alongside Sean McKittrick, Jason Blum, and Monkeypaw’s Ian Cooper. Us will be released by Universal Pictures on Friday, March 15, 2019.

  23. In a place like Finland, you’re gonna be happy as soon as you get inside, just knowing you’re not freezing your ass off. Of course, that doesn’t explain the Russians ….

    The Who’s may not be a different species, but they are a different generation, baby!

    Roger Daltrey introduces stuttering to rock and roll.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    Achmed E. Newman:

    And to realize that, wonders of wonders, Roger Daltrey has morphed into a modern-day paleoconservative!
  24. @J.Ross
    Is she related to the famous painter?
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Vrubel_Demon.jpg
    ...
    Not seeing anything, and it appears to have been a somewhat common name. Does it mean something like "in the cut"?
    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    Add another quite comprehensive report to the list. They have tax issues, corruption issues, Muslim, Jewish, WOC, anti-Semitism issues, racism, the entire thing splintered and splintered again. Local chapters breaking off, dissolving chapters, Jewish women resigning all over the place. Remarkable how our media has covered it all up, this cattiness and strife in the Sisterhood:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/276694/is-the-womens-march-melting-down
  25. @Zoodles
    Nordics sometimes have epicanthic folds. Take a look at Bjork.

    We rarely have “hooded eyes.” It’s a different look. Bjork is probably part Eskimo or something.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Eskimos in Iceland? What?
  26. Funny how that works.

    When leftists look for national role models they turn to Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland. But they can’t notice what they all have in common.

    Meanwhile, their actual policies are designed to turn us into Brazil.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Meanwhile, their actual policies are designed to turn us into Brazil.

     

    Brazil has always been far more culturally coherent than the US. You might be thinking of the Ottoman Empire, without the discipline.
  27. @Intelligent Dasein
    Not OT just oblique.

    Brookings Institute: US Population Growth Hits an 80-Year Low, Capping Off a Year of Demographic Stagnation.

    Despite the fact that immigration to America is actually lower now than it was during the last decade, the ratio of immigration to natural increase was 50% lower then than now. Today, they are nearly equal. Both immigration and natural increase are falling fast, which confirms my oft-repeated assertion that mass immigration simply depopulates the world in a few generations. It does not result in more children being born in either the sending countries or the receiving countries; it only swells the increasingly infertile adult population of the cities.

    “Their data show that the national rate of population growth is at its lowest since 1937, a result of declines in the number of births, gains in the number of deaths, and that the nation’s under age 18 population has declined since the 2010 census.”

    Didn’t enviros spend nearly half a century waiting for such statistics? Oh yeah, I forgot.

    “Geographical mobility hits a postwar low”

    Oh the humanity! Our bountiful churn! We’ll miss all the globocrud when it’s gone.

  28. Keys to happiness:

    – Tight sweaters
    – “A few extra pounds”
    – Whale riding? lol

  29. @Intelligent Dasein
    Not OT just oblique.

    Brookings Institute: US Population Growth Hits an 80-Year Low, Capping Off a Year of Demographic Stagnation.

    Despite the fact that immigration to America is actually lower now than it was during the last decade, the ratio of immigration to natural increase was 50% lower then than now. Today, they are nearly equal. Both immigration and natural increase are falling fast, which confirms my oft-repeated assertion that mass immigration simply depopulates the world in a few generations. It does not result in more children being born in either the sending countries or the receiving countries; it only swells the increasingly infertile adult population of the cities.

    Why do we need to add a million a year to our population at all? Isn’t 330,000,000 enough already?

    https://i1.wp.com/www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/12.21.18_Metro_Frey_Figure-2.png?w=768&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C9999px&ssl=1

    And why can’t Brookings give a link that shows up graphically, instead of forcing you to click?

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    https://i1.wp.com/www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/12.21.18_Metro_Frey_Figure-2.png
    , @istevefan

    Why do we need to add a million a year to our population at all? Isn’t 330,000,000 enough already?
     
    We don't. And yes, 330 million with no end in sight is enough already.

    At 330M we are in 3rd place globally. According to NumbersUSA if we had not had the 1965 immigration act and its successors giving us 60 million immigrants since 1965, our population would be around240M today. That number would only drop us to 4th place essentially swapping positions with Indonesia.

    In fact if we still had our WW2 population of 140M we would still be in the top 10 at number 9 in the world.

    CIA World Factbook population rankings.</a?
  30. @OilcanFloyd
    The East Asian is probably Karelian. Some Finns look like that.

    No he isn’t and no we don’t. It’s an asian kid.

    • Replies: @Simon in London
    Yes, you can tell by his hair.

    Ethnic Finns average 20% or so east-Asian genes, but not the thick black hair (or the teeth).
    , @OilcanFloyd
    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d757c0cb6c869271d8e8b2843514d32b

    Give her the black dye job that some Finnish women have, and she definitely looks Asian. I know that Finns are sensitive about it, but lots of Finns, especially in the eastern part of the country, have an NE Asian look.

    I guess we are looking at the same picture from the article.
  31. Grandma’s churn:

    Cohen’s:

  32. Whos and Grinches are definitely different species. You only have to look at them.

    No, Whos are not Liberals though they may be Minnesotan. The Grinch probably works for the New York Times.

  33. @Tsingis Kaani
    No he isn't and no we don't. It's an asian kid.

    Yes, you can tell by his hair.

    Ethnic Finns average 20% or so east-Asian genes, but not the thick black hair (or the teeth).

  34. @Digital Samizdat

    Granted, in a photo of the school, one student looks kind of East Asian, so they’ve got that going for them.
     
    Could be a Lapp. They often look kind of Oriental.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sámi_people

    “Say, Doc, I’m tired of being strikingly beautiful in my unique way; what kind of specials are running? I’m looking for something that says ‘Skeletor is Mildly Surprised..’”

    It’s not quite the same as what one finds in Orientals. It’s gorgeous. Like red hair and alabaster skin, there is something Ur-European about it.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/beauty/cosmetic-surgery/actress-renee-zellweger-responds-to-plastic-surgery-rumours/news-story/d080a1158cc7a01e1ac351b3794c464d

    “Not that it’s anyone’s business but I did not make a decision to alter my face and have surgery on my eyes,” the actress said. “This fact is of no true import to anyone at all but that the possibility alone was discussed among respected journalists and became a public conversation is a disconcerting illustration of news/entertainment confusion and society’s fixation on physicality.”
     
  35. @Chrisnonymous
    Wait, wait, wait--I get it. The Grinch is actually (((The Grinch))), right?

    Wait, wait, wait–I get it. The Grinch is actually (((The Grinch))), right?

    Nah. The (((Grinch))) would pass as a regular Who. The Grinch is a Who suffering from some sort of physical deformity, as a result of which he feels rejected, not without some reason, and has become a misanthrope (a miswhope?)

  36. @Tsingis Kaani
    No he isn't and no we don't. It's an asian kid.

    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d757c0cb6c869271d8e8b2843514d32b

    Give her the black dye job that some Finnish women have, and she definitely looks Asian. I know that Finns are sensitive about it, but lots of Finns, especially in the eastern part of the country, have an NE Asian look.

    I guess we are looking at the same picture from the article.

    • Replies: @Jaakko Raipala

    Give her the black dye job that some Finnish women have, and she definitely looks Asian. I know that Finns are sensitive about it, but lots of Finns,
     
    Finns have an East Asian genetic component, yes that is true....

    especially in the eastern part of the country,
     
    ...but this is complete bullshit. There is no visible difference between east and west. The only visible geographic difference is that the far north has a much higher frequency of Asian traits but even in the far north or among Saamis there are just no people who look like full Asians like the guy in the photo and no one here is going to mistake him for a Finn or a Saami.

    There are physical differences between eastern and western Finns which used to be intensely studied but they're not that eastern Finns look more Asian. For example, eastern Finns are much more likely to have red hair (which is pretty much the most typical Finno-Ugric trait).

    (For the record, I'm from the West, and I got a bunch of relatives who do have a bit of an Asian look in facial features that makes foreigners ask strange questions because my relatives also tend to be tall and blue eyed. I seem to have missed it except for some eye folds that no one seems to notice because I have blue eyes.)
    , @Rosamond Vincy
    No idea if this is her natural shade, but it looks more likely then the red dye she has in the "I Miss You" vid:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=htobTBlCvUU
  37. @Twinkie
    Finns are partly Siberian/East Asian and have the elevated suicide rate to go with those genes.

    The Finnish suicide rate ranked number 32 in the world in 2015, with a host of far more diverse countries ahead of them.

    • Replies: @Twinkie

    The Finnish suicide rate ranked number 32 in the world in 2015, with a host of far more diverse countries ahead of them.
     
    Elevated compared to other Northern European countries with much lower (read negligible) Siberian genes fraction.
  38. istevefan says:
    @Ibound1
    The scary, actually terrifying, thing is that the readers of the NYTimes believe that high taxes and subsidized yoga classes will work just as well anywhere on earth and that if you took 1000 people from Muslim North Africa and put them in this town, everything would turn out just fine - as long as you kept those subsidized yoga classes.

    The scary, actually terrifying, thing is that the readers of the NYTimes believe that high taxes and subsidized yoga classes will work just as well anywhere on earth…

    Somewhat along those lines there are people who think that if you gave the American Constitution to any country on Earth you could recreate the USA. I used to be of the opinion that maybe we should give that a try. Then Steve pointed out Puerto Rico.

  39. @Achmed E. Newman
    In a place like Finland, you're gonna be happy as soon as you get inside, just knowing you're not freezing your ass off. Of course, that doesn't explain the Russians ....

    The Who's may not be a different species, but they are a different generation, baby!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjN5uHRIcjM

    Roger Daltrey introduces stuttering to rock and roll.

    Achmed E. Newman:

    And to realize that, wonders of wonders, Roger Daltrey has morphed into a modern-day paleoconservative!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    I had no idea. Thanks, Dan.
  40. @Reg Cæsar
    Why do we need to add a million a year to our population at all? Isn't 330,000,000 enough already?


    https://i1.wp.com/www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/12.21.18_Metro_Frey_Figure-2.png?w=768&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C9999px&ssl=1


    And why can't Brookings give a link that shows up graphically, instead of forcing you to click?

  41. Dr. Seuss explained all of this in his Sneetches story.

    Maybe the folks in Kauniainen are happy because they don’t have any star-bellied sneetches to create the diversity problems they don’t have.

  42. istevefan says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    Why do we need to add a million a year to our population at all? Isn't 330,000,000 enough already?


    https://i1.wp.com/www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/12.21.18_Metro_Frey_Figure-2.png?w=768&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C9999px&ssl=1


    And why can't Brookings give a link that shows up graphically, instead of forcing you to click?

    Why do we need to add a million a year to our population at all? Isn’t 330,000,000 enough already?

    We don’t. And yes, 330 million with no end in sight is enough already.

    At 330M we are in 3rd place globally. According to NumbersUSA if we had not had the 1965 immigration act and its successors giving us 60 million immigrants since 1965, our population would be around240M today. That number would only drop us to 4th place essentially swapping positions with Indonesia.

    In fact if we still had our WW2 population of 140M we would still be in the top 10 at number 9 in the world.

    CIA World Factbook population rankings.</a?

    • Replies: @Trevor H.
    Imagine the USA with only 140 million people. Sounds almost like heaven. But we had already imported some people who said "Nice country you have here, it'd be a shame if something happened to it..."
  43. Finland is a nice place, but happy doesn’t seem to describe Finns. It seems that Finns are designated to take the torch from the Swedes as Europe’s Nice Guys, now that Swedes are tiring of the situation, but Finns don’t come off as a happy group of people. Just watch the drinking and fighting on May Day or Midsummer to get a feel for the happiness they all share.

  44. Kauniainen is not an ordinary town, it is a private community for the super wealthy that pretends to be a small town (it still has some legacy ordinary residents like farmer families who have owned land for generations there). It is the richest town in Finland by a large margin. Here’s a list of all municipalities in Finland by per capita income (it’s in Finnish but you can just look at the list, note that they bolded and separated Kauniainen at the top for whatever reason):

    https://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/a/2015121920856681

    The difference would be *massively* bigger if you could compare accumulated wealth of the residents but it’s much harder to get this information.

    Kaunianen is essentially a part of the Helsinki metropolitan area that has been sectioned to be its own mini-town so that the money class can live by different rules than the rest of us. The town is known for such things as the lowest tax rates, least funded government services and the best funded private clubs and of course low diversity combined with high votes for pro-diversity parties.

    The New York Times tries to paint a marvelous picture of northern European Social Democracy by going to the one town in Finland that only exists to so that the elite can opt out of Social Democracy and minimize taxes, social services, diversity and everything else that the NYT praises about northern European Social Democracies. I wonder whether they know what they’re doing – are they trying to fool America or have they actually fooled themselves?

    Either way, I love to hear about Finnish happy egalitarianism from foreign journalists who travel to the most resented exclusive elite town where no working class Finn could afford to live and who visit exclusive clubs that you can’t join unless your family can afford massive donations. I also love it that tons of gullible Americans hear about this amazing number of well-funded clubs that are “subsidized by the government” and they imagine that this is some socialist utopia where such facilities are provided to the ordinary person free of charge.

    Though a while ago there was a big political scandal when the government actually tried to put a “refugee reception center” in Kaunianen. It was lobbied by some rich guy who thought he would make big money out of renting his properties to the government. The outrage of the Kaunianen residents caused much joy in Finnish dissident right sites since everyone knows that Kaunianen is full of rich liberals with often purely inherited wealth who love diversity and who hate nationalism.

    • Replies: @jbwilson24
    "Kaunianen is essentially a part of the Helsinki metropolitan area that has been sectioned to be its own mini-town so that the money class can live by different rules than the rest of us."

    Sounds fantastic, if you live there (that is).

    "Though a while ago there was a big political scandal when the government actually tried to put a “refugee reception center” in Kaunianen."

    I was going to say that what it really lacks is some Somalis. Rape gangs, hand grenades, 7 kids per woman. You know, something to add some culture to such a dreary location.

    Read a story on how Pakis and other migrants were caught heading through the woods from Russia into Finland in order to claim asylum. Just a matter of time before Finland is as screwed as Sweden.
    , @J.Ross
    Thanks for this comment, this is crucial context.
    , @Clyde
    Score!!!! Kauniainen as a NY Times contrived Potemkin village of Nordic social democracy.
    , @Cagey Beast
    Thanks for this.
  45. @Intelligent Dasein
    Not OT just oblique.

    Brookings Institute: US Population Growth Hits an 80-Year Low, Capping Off a Year of Demographic Stagnation.

    Despite the fact that immigration to America is actually lower now than it was during the last decade, the ratio of immigration to natural increase was 50% lower then than now. Today, they are nearly equal. Both immigration and natural increase are falling fast, which confirms my oft-repeated assertion that mass immigration simply depopulates the world in a few generations. It does not result in more children being born in either the sending countries or the receiving countries; it only swells the increasingly infertile adult population of the cities.

    Despite the fact that immigration to America is actually lower now than it was during the last decade, the ratio of immigration to natural increase was 50% lower then than now. Today, they are nearly equal. Both immigration and natural increase are falling fast, which confirms my oft-repeated assertion that mass immigration simply depopulates the world in a few generations.

    It’s hard to know about the immigrants. Some groups tend–1st generation–to have more children in the rich USA/West than they would at home, where birth rates are falling.

    What mass immigration clearly does is suppress fertility–and particularly the natural fertility recovery–in the recieving West.

    Affordable family formation is tougher. How can we afford a house in a neighborhood with “good schools”. People feel less neighborly, less less hopeful, less connected to their neighbors, their nation, their future. It’s a slow motion genocide.

    • Agree: densa
  46. @OilcanFloyd
    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d757c0cb6c869271d8e8b2843514d32b

    Give her the black dye job that some Finnish women have, and she definitely looks Asian. I know that Finns are sensitive about it, but lots of Finns, especially in the eastern part of the country, have an NE Asian look.

    I guess we are looking at the same picture from the article.

    Give her the black dye job that some Finnish women have, and she definitely looks Asian. I know that Finns are sensitive about it, but lots of Finns,

    Finns have an East Asian genetic component, yes that is true….

    especially in the eastern part of the country,

    …but this is complete bullshit. There is no visible difference between east and west. The only visible geographic difference is that the far north has a much higher frequency of Asian traits but even in the far north or among Saamis there are just no people who look like full Asians like the guy in the photo and no one here is going to mistake him for a Finn or a Saami.

    There are physical differences between eastern and western Finns which used to be intensely studied but they’re not that eastern Finns look more Asian. For example, eastern Finns are much more likely to have red hair (which is pretty much the most typical Finno-Ugric trait).

    (For the record, I’m from the West, and I got a bunch of relatives who do have a bit of an Asian look in facial features that makes foreigners ask strange questions because my relatives also tend to be tall and blue eyed. I seem to have missed it except for some eye folds that no one seems to notice because I have blue eyes.)

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    My father-in-law is Karelian, and my mother-in-law is Ostrobothnian, and she always joked about how dark and foreign Karelians look. Karelians just have more of an Asian look to me. Swedish Finns also look more like Swedes to me. No non-Finn would ever take my father-in-law for a Scandinavian, and many probably wouldn't think he's European. He looks like Stalin with squinty eyes and higher cheek bones

    I don't think it's my imagination that there is often a different look (and it isn't Slavic, since Russians stand out) in eastern border areas like Lappeenranta that isn't as common in Helsinki, the north, or in the Swedish speaking areas. My wife agrees, if that means anything. My brother-in-law claims that Swedish women have nicer breasts, but that's nothing that I can comment on.
    , @Lagertha
    Agree. I am a 50% Karelian (Karjalainen); have strawberry blonde hair, have sons (6'+) with red (& strawberry blonde; with non-melanin skin) hair, and have DNA data (done in Finland; serious obsessive doctors in my family) that goes back to the early 1500's. I have one son who is dark haired, blue-eyed, and taller than the other sons - they all look alike, and have some of the same annoying quirks & habits that infuriate me, but, they all look different in degrees of hair and skin color - they can grow awesome, spectacular bears. However, Renee' Zellweger would look just like my cousins...I adore her, and will always adore her.
  47. @The Alarmist
    The Finnish suicide rate ranked number 32 in the world in 2015, with a host of far more diverse countries ahead of them.

    The Finnish suicide rate ranked number 32 in the world in 2015, with a host of far more diverse countries ahead of them.

    Elevated compared to other Northern European countries with much lower (read negligible) Siberian genes fraction.

  48. @Jaakko Raipala

    Give her the black dye job that some Finnish women have, and she definitely looks Asian. I know that Finns are sensitive about it, but lots of Finns,
     
    Finns have an East Asian genetic component, yes that is true....

    especially in the eastern part of the country,
     
    ...but this is complete bullshit. There is no visible difference between east and west. The only visible geographic difference is that the far north has a much higher frequency of Asian traits but even in the far north or among Saamis there are just no people who look like full Asians like the guy in the photo and no one here is going to mistake him for a Finn or a Saami.

    There are physical differences between eastern and western Finns which used to be intensely studied but they're not that eastern Finns look more Asian. For example, eastern Finns are much more likely to have red hair (which is pretty much the most typical Finno-Ugric trait).

    (For the record, I'm from the West, and I got a bunch of relatives who do have a bit of an Asian look in facial features that makes foreigners ask strange questions because my relatives also tend to be tall and blue eyed. I seem to have missed it except for some eye folds that no one seems to notice because I have blue eyes.)

    My father-in-law is Karelian, and my mother-in-law is Ostrobothnian, and she always joked about how dark and foreign Karelians look. Karelians just have more of an Asian look to me. Swedish Finns also look more like Swedes to me. No non-Finn would ever take my father-in-law for a Scandinavian, and many probably wouldn’t think he’s European. He looks like Stalin with squinty eyes and higher cheek bones

    I don’t think it’s my imagination that there is often a different look (and it isn’t Slavic, since Russians stand out) in eastern border areas like Lappeenranta that isn’t as common in Helsinki, the north, or in the Swedish speaking areas. My wife agrees, if that means anything. My brother-in-law claims that Swedish women have nicer breasts, but that’s nothing that I can comment on.

  49. @OilcanFloyd
    The East Asian is probably Karelian. Some Finns look like that.

    Some random Karelians:

    Some Orthodox Karelians from Russia who’ve been separated from Finns and Karelians in Finland for centuries but who to me look like strikingly stereotypical Karelians (and not like west-Finns or Russians):

    Karelian = karjalainen and you can google more with that.

    Karelians do not look any more Asian than western Finns do. They have the same 5-10 % Asian component that’s typical for Finnic peoples.

    The reason there is so much confusion about this is that old European racial standards tended to classify Finns as Asian. Not part Asian but full Asian. Europeans were long confused about Asians racially since in European geographical classification Arabia, India and China are all “Asia”. Before photography there were people working on racial classification who didn’t actually realize that Indians and Chinese look rather different.

    Von Linné who started modern racial classification described black Africans, red native Americans and white Europeans in a form that’s pretty good even today because he had good reports from colonies but he and other theorists were hopelessly confused about Asia since they tried to combine descriptions from India, China, Arabia etc all in one “Asian” race. Unfortunately, we live in a time where it was decided that thinking about this is evil so categorizing Asians and peoples like Finns who are in between European and Asian was halted at a confused state.

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    I know about Linne and the categorizing of Finns as Asians, and I don't claim that all Finns from the east, or Karelians (I know they are called Karjalainen) have an Eastern look. I just claim that it is more common in the east and among Karelians. At least that's my experience and impression.
  50. @Anonymous
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/womens-march-as-coalition-of-the-fringes-in-action/

    http://www.jewishpress.com/news/us-news/chicago-womens-march-cancelled-over-ties-to-illinois-nazi-farrakhan/2018/12/26/

    Add another quite comprehensive report to the list. They have tax issues, corruption issues, Muslim, Jewish, WOC, anti-Semitism issues, racism, the entire thing splintered and splintered again. Local chapters breaking off, dissolving chapters, Jewish women resigning all over the place. Remarkable how our media has covered it all up, this cattiness and strife in the Sisterhood:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/276694/is-the-womens-march-melting-down

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Remarkable how our media has covered it all up, this cattiness and strife in the Sisterhood:

     

    The Sisterhood is turning into Sister Location. Without the smiles.


    https://static.posters.cz/image/1300/posters/five-nights-at-freddy-s-sister-location-quad-i51420.jpg
    , @Reg Cæsar

    According to multiple sources, Pearson’s involvement eventually petered out. Efforts to reach her were unsuccessful.)
     
    "Petered out" is astonishingly microaggressive for an article on women marchers of color or Kabala. And the peter doesn't even reach her.

    Even worse, it could be taken for a gun thing. Peters out for Harambe!

    https://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8354653/dicks-out-for-harambe-internets-most-fascinating/

  51. @Jaakko Raipala
    Kauniainen is not an ordinary town, it is a private community for the super wealthy that pretends to be a small town (it still has some legacy ordinary residents like farmer families who have owned land for generations there). It is the richest town in Finland by a large margin. Here's a list of all municipalities in Finland by per capita income (it's in Finnish but you can just look at the list, note that they bolded and separated Kauniainen at the top for whatever reason):

    https://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/a/2015121920856681

    The difference would be *massively* bigger if you could compare accumulated wealth of the residents but it's much harder to get this information.

    Kaunianen is essentially a part of the Helsinki metropolitan area that has been sectioned to be its own mini-town so that the money class can live by different rules than the rest of us. The town is known for such things as the lowest tax rates, least funded government services and the best funded private clubs and of course low diversity combined with high votes for pro-diversity parties.

    The New York Times tries to paint a marvelous picture of northern European Social Democracy by going to the one town in Finland that only exists to so that the elite can opt out of Social Democracy and minimize taxes, social services, diversity and everything else that the NYT praises about northern European Social Democracies. I wonder whether they know what they're doing - are they trying to fool America or have they actually fooled themselves?

    Either way, I love to hear about Finnish happy egalitarianism from foreign journalists who travel to the most resented exclusive elite town where no working class Finn could afford to live and who visit exclusive clubs that you can't join unless your family can afford massive donations. I also love it that tons of gullible Americans hear about this amazing number of well-funded clubs that are "subsidized by the government" and they imagine that this is some socialist utopia where such facilities are provided to the ordinary person free of charge.

    Though a while ago there was a big political scandal when the government actually tried to put a "refugee reception center" in Kaunianen. It was lobbied by some rich guy who thought he would make big money out of renting his properties to the government. The outrage of the Kaunianen residents caused much joy in Finnish dissident right sites since everyone knows that Kaunianen is full of rich liberals with often purely inherited wealth who love diversity and who hate nationalism.

    “Kaunianen is essentially a part of the Helsinki metropolitan area that has been sectioned to be its own mini-town so that the money class can live by different rules than the rest of us.”

    Sounds fantastic, if you live there (that is).

    “Though a while ago there was a big political scandal when the government actually tried to put a “refugee reception center” in Kaunianen.”

    I was going to say that what it really lacks is some Somalis. Rape gangs, hand grenades, 7 kids per woman. You know, something to add some culture to such a dreary location.

    Read a story on how Pakis and other migrants were caught heading through the woods from Russia into Finland in order to claim asylum. Just a matter of time before Finland is as screwed as Sweden.

  52. @Intelligent Dasein
    Not OT just oblique.

    Brookings Institute: US Population Growth Hits an 80-Year Low, Capping Off a Year of Demographic Stagnation.

    Despite the fact that immigration to America is actually lower now than it was during the last decade, the ratio of immigration to natural increase was 50% lower then than now. Today, they are nearly equal. Both immigration and natural increase are falling fast, which confirms my oft-repeated assertion that mass immigration simply depopulates the world in a few generations. It does not result in more children being born in either the sending countries or the receiving countries; it only swells the increasingly infertile adult population of the cities.

    Both immigration and natural increase are falling fast, which confirms my oft-repeated assertion that mass immigration simply depopulates the world in a few generations.

    Right. Get back to us when either the U.S. or the World Population figures actually decrease, even a tiny bit.

  53. @Saxon
    We rarely have "hooded eyes." It's a different look. Bjork is probably part Eskimo or something.

    Eskimos in Iceland? What?

  54. @istevefan

    Why do we need to add a million a year to our population at all? Isn’t 330,000,000 enough already?
     
    We don't. And yes, 330 million with no end in sight is enough already.

    At 330M we are in 3rd place globally. According to NumbersUSA if we had not had the 1965 immigration act and its successors giving us 60 million immigrants since 1965, our population would be around240M today. That number would only drop us to 4th place essentially swapping positions with Indonesia.

    In fact if we still had our WW2 population of 140M we would still be in the top 10 at number 9 in the world.

    CIA World Factbook population rankings.</a?

    Imagine the USA with only 140 million people. Sounds almost like heaven. But we had already imported some people who said “Nice country you have here, it’d be a shame if something happened to it…”

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    The added people haven't really contributed much to the cultural life of the country. If you compare the Oscar nominations for best picture in the forties with now, with the possible exception of special effects, the movies aren't twice as good now with twice as many people to draw from as a talent pool. The same goes for comparing best seller book lists from then and now, hit songs from then and now and so on.
  55. The Grinch, of course, isn’t a Who. He’s a Whom.

  56. @Jaakko Raipala
    Kauniainen is not an ordinary town, it is a private community for the super wealthy that pretends to be a small town (it still has some legacy ordinary residents like farmer families who have owned land for generations there). It is the richest town in Finland by a large margin. Here's a list of all municipalities in Finland by per capita income (it's in Finnish but you can just look at the list, note that they bolded and separated Kauniainen at the top for whatever reason):

    https://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/a/2015121920856681

    The difference would be *massively* bigger if you could compare accumulated wealth of the residents but it's much harder to get this information.

    Kaunianen is essentially a part of the Helsinki metropolitan area that has been sectioned to be its own mini-town so that the money class can live by different rules than the rest of us. The town is known for such things as the lowest tax rates, least funded government services and the best funded private clubs and of course low diversity combined with high votes for pro-diversity parties.

    The New York Times tries to paint a marvelous picture of northern European Social Democracy by going to the one town in Finland that only exists to so that the elite can opt out of Social Democracy and minimize taxes, social services, diversity and everything else that the NYT praises about northern European Social Democracies. I wonder whether they know what they're doing - are they trying to fool America or have they actually fooled themselves?

    Either way, I love to hear about Finnish happy egalitarianism from foreign journalists who travel to the most resented exclusive elite town where no working class Finn could afford to live and who visit exclusive clubs that you can't join unless your family can afford massive donations. I also love it that tons of gullible Americans hear about this amazing number of well-funded clubs that are "subsidized by the government" and they imagine that this is some socialist utopia where such facilities are provided to the ordinary person free of charge.

    Though a while ago there was a big political scandal when the government actually tried to put a "refugee reception center" in Kaunianen. It was lobbied by some rich guy who thought he would make big money out of renting his properties to the government. The outrage of the Kaunianen residents caused much joy in Finnish dissident right sites since everyone knows that Kaunianen is full of rich liberals with often purely inherited wealth who love diversity and who hate nationalism.

    Thanks for this comment, this is crucial context.

  57. @Jaakko Raipala
    Some random Karelians:

    https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload//w_1198,h_674,f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto/13-3-5375364.jpg

    Some Orthodox Karelians from Russia who've been separated from Finns and Karelians in Finland for centuries but who to me look like strikingly stereotypical Karelians (and not like west-Finns or Russians):

    http://www.sakkola.fi/tietokanta/uploads/SK%20220%20Tverin%20karjalaiset%20kulkueessa%2015.6.1997.jpg

    Karelian = karjalainen and you can google more with that.

    Karelians do not look any more Asian than western Finns do. They have the same 5-10 % Asian component that's typical for Finnic peoples.

    The reason there is so much confusion about this is that old European racial standards tended to classify Finns as Asian. Not part Asian but full Asian. Europeans were long confused about Asians racially since in European geographical classification Arabia, India and China are all "Asia". Before photography there were people working on racial classification who didn't actually realize that Indians and Chinese look rather different.

    Von Linné who started modern racial classification described black Africans, red native Americans and white Europeans in a form that's pretty good even today because he had good reports from colonies but he and other theorists were hopelessly confused about Asia since they tried to combine descriptions from India, China, Arabia etc all in one "Asian" race. Unfortunately, we live in a time where it was decided that thinking about this is evil so categorizing Asians and peoples like Finns who are in between European and Asian was halted at a confused state.

    I know about Linne and the categorizing of Finns as Asians, and I don’t claim that all Finns from the east, or Karelians (I know they are called Karjalainen) have an Eastern look. I just claim that it is more common in the east and among Karelians. At least that’s my experience and impression.

  58. @Hypnotoad666
    Funny how that works.

    When leftists look for national role models they turn to Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland. But they can't notice what they all have in common.

    Meanwhile, their actual policies are designed to turn us into Brazil.

    Meanwhile, their actual policies are designed to turn us into Brazil.

    Brazil has always been far more culturally coherent than the US. You might be thinking of the Ottoman Empire, without the discipline.

  59. @Jim Christian
    Add another quite comprehensive report to the list. They have tax issues, corruption issues, Muslim, Jewish, WOC, anti-Semitism issues, racism, the entire thing splintered and splintered again. Local chapters breaking off, dissolving chapters, Jewish women resigning all over the place. Remarkable how our media has covered it all up, this cattiness and strife in the Sisterhood:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/276694/is-the-womens-march-melting-down

    Remarkable how our media has covered it all up, this cattiness and strife in the Sisterhood:

    The Sisterhood is turning into Sister Location. Without the smiles.

  60. @Jim Christian
    Add another quite comprehensive report to the list. They have tax issues, corruption issues, Muslim, Jewish, WOC, anti-Semitism issues, racism, the entire thing splintered and splintered again. Local chapters breaking off, dissolving chapters, Jewish women resigning all over the place. Remarkable how our media has covered it all up, this cattiness and strife in the Sisterhood:

    https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/276694/is-the-womens-march-melting-down

    According to multiple sources, Pearson’s involvement eventually petered out. Efforts to reach her were unsuccessful.)

    “Petered out” is astonishingly microaggressive for an article on women marchers of color or Kabala. And the peter doesn’t even reach her.

    Even worse, it could be taken for a gun thing. Peters out for Harambe!

    https://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8354653/dicks-out-for-harambe-internets-most-fascinating/

    • Replies: @Rob McX

    How 2 Average Guys Started the Year’s Most Controversial Meme
     
    If they're "average guys", America is well and truly screwed.
    , @Anonymous
    It's never been mentioned who actually shot the gorilla or who gave the order. This is prudent on the zoo's part: there are animal rights types who might well target the shooter or the shot caller.
  61. @Reg Cæsar

    According to multiple sources, Pearson’s involvement eventually petered out. Efforts to reach her were unsuccessful.)
     
    "Petered out" is astonishingly microaggressive for an article on women marchers of color or Kabala. And the peter doesn't even reach her.

    Even worse, it could be taken for a gun thing. Peters out for Harambe!

    https://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8354653/dicks-out-for-harambe-internets-most-fascinating/

    How 2 Average Guys Started the Year’s Most Controversial Meme

    If they’re “average guys”, America is well and truly screwed.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    If they’re “average guys”, America is well and truly screwed.
     
    Both are named Brandon. That suggests something about their parents.
  62. @Reg Cæsar

    According to multiple sources, Pearson’s involvement eventually petered out. Efforts to reach her were unsuccessful.)
     
    "Petered out" is astonishingly microaggressive for an article on women marchers of color or Kabala. And the peter doesn't even reach her.

    Even worse, it could be taken for a gun thing. Peters out for Harambe!

    https://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8354653/dicks-out-for-harambe-internets-most-fascinating/

    It’s never been mentioned who actually shot the gorilla or who gave the order. This is prudent on the zoo’s part: there are animal rights types who might well target the shooter or the shot caller.

  63. @Autochthon
    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/12/590x/Renee-Zellweger-new-face-526088.jpg

    "Say, Doc, I'm tired of being strikingly beautiful in my unique way; what kind of specials are running? I'm looking for something that says 'Skeletor is Mildly Surprised..'"

    It's not quite the same as what one finds in Orientals. It's gorgeous. Like red hair and alabaster skin, there is something Ur-European about it.

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/beauty/cosmetic-surgery/actress-renee-zellweger-responds-to-plastic-surgery-rumours/news-story/d080a1158cc7a01e1ac351b3794c464d

    “Not that it’s anyone’s business but I did not make a decision to alter my face and have surgery on my eyes,” the actress said. “This fact is of no true import to anyone at all but that the possibility alone was discussed among respected journalists and became a public conversation is a disconcerting illustration of news/entertainment confusion and society’s fixation on physicality.”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Judge Reinhold used to look like the Movie Star Version of me, until he got a lot of plastic surgery.
    , @Autochthon
    If you notice the careful wording ("...I did not make a decision to..."), its possible – only just possible – she had, say, a horrible accident skiing or in an automobile which made reconstructive surgery necessary and the results are the best the physicians could do to make her look presentable, but they were unable to preserve her original appearance. This possibility seems very unlikely. I cannot think of anyone at all so obsessed with privacy they would be compelled to hide such a guiltless event from
    the public but who also had the ganas for attention necessaary to be a successful actress (a superstar, really!).



    I've no reason to believe she is anything but a wonderful person, and I only make the sarcastic comment I did because of the vanishingly small probability she'll ever see it and have her feelings hurt coupled with my genuine disappointment such a gorgeous woman felt compelled to get cosmetic surgery (as I believ she did) to make herself uglier and more generic. I see this all the time, even just with what women do to themselves with makeup, going from "lovely girl with [charming feature X: a crooked smile, dimples, a beauty mark, freckles, etc.]" to cookie-cutter "that hoe over there" (with orange skin, drawn-on eyebrows, fake eyelashes, hair that's been chemically treated all to Hell, and so much make-up you'd need an hour with a hammer-drill to discover what she truly looks like under it). If you check early photos of many famous women you can see they were pretty and distinctive before gravitating toward a certain template for "overdone Kardashian-clone" that underpins current standards of beauty.

    Ironically, this phenomenon (of generic THOTs) is way more shameful than the fundamental and never changing proclivity we all have to appreciate physical beauty, and demand it in most movie-stars for the same reasons we demand professional athletes not be fat smokers with artificial knees: no one wants to watch ugly people portray dashing heroes and ravishing heroines.

    Melissa Joan Hart, a happily married mother with traditional, healthy values, has eyes which are ever so slightly asymmetrical. When I remark I think she's stunning, friends often say something like "she's got a wonky eye thing" – but that is part of wht makes her stunning; its not an unattractive deformity, just a little quirk that makes her unique. I know lots of women who found David Bowie especially handsome in part because of his anisocoria, and so on. People, even actors and actresses whose job is in part to be good-looking, can be good-looking while still being individuals. Melissa Joan Hart, a happily married mother with traditional, healthy values, has eyes which are ever so slightly asymmetrical. When I remark I think she's stunning, friends often say something like "she's got a wonky eye thing" – but that is part of wht makes her stunning; its not an unattractive deformity, just a little quirk that makes her unique. Leann Rimes was once a pleasantly curvy gal with a natural look, but now she's a gaunt, orange Generic Celebrity. Lindsay Lohan underwent a similar trajectory; we havent seen any of her freckles since the last tome she was sober, a decade ago, or whateber. I know lots of women who found David Bowie especially handsome in part because of his anisocoria, and so on.

    I just think the trends to conformityy are really sad, and they suppress true beauty.
  64. @Jaakko Raipala
    Kauniainen is not an ordinary town, it is a private community for the super wealthy that pretends to be a small town (it still has some legacy ordinary residents like farmer families who have owned land for generations there). It is the richest town in Finland by a large margin. Here's a list of all municipalities in Finland by per capita income (it's in Finnish but you can just look at the list, note that they bolded and separated Kauniainen at the top for whatever reason):

    https://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/a/2015121920856681

    The difference would be *massively* bigger if you could compare accumulated wealth of the residents but it's much harder to get this information.

    Kaunianen is essentially a part of the Helsinki metropolitan area that has been sectioned to be its own mini-town so that the money class can live by different rules than the rest of us. The town is known for such things as the lowest tax rates, least funded government services and the best funded private clubs and of course low diversity combined with high votes for pro-diversity parties.

    The New York Times tries to paint a marvelous picture of northern European Social Democracy by going to the one town in Finland that only exists to so that the elite can opt out of Social Democracy and minimize taxes, social services, diversity and everything else that the NYT praises about northern European Social Democracies. I wonder whether they know what they're doing - are they trying to fool America or have they actually fooled themselves?

    Either way, I love to hear about Finnish happy egalitarianism from foreign journalists who travel to the most resented exclusive elite town where no working class Finn could afford to live and who visit exclusive clubs that you can't join unless your family can afford massive donations. I also love it that tons of gullible Americans hear about this amazing number of well-funded clubs that are "subsidized by the government" and they imagine that this is some socialist utopia where such facilities are provided to the ordinary person free of charge.

    Though a while ago there was a big political scandal when the government actually tried to put a "refugee reception center" in Kaunianen. It was lobbied by some rich guy who thought he would make big money out of renting his properties to the government. The outrage of the Kaunianen residents caused much joy in Finnish dissident right sites since everyone knows that Kaunianen is full of rich liberals with often purely inherited wealth who love diversity and who hate nationalism.

    Score!!!! Kauniainen as a NY Times contrived Potemkin village of Nordic social democracy.

  65. @YetAnotherAnon
    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/beauty/cosmetic-surgery/actress-renee-zellweger-responds-to-plastic-surgery-rumours/news-story/d080a1158cc7a01e1ac351b3794c464d

    “Not that it’s anyone’s business but I did not make a decision to alter my face and have surgery on my eyes,” the actress said. “This fact is of no true import to anyone at all but that the possibility alone was discussed among respected journalists and became a public conversation is a disconcerting illustration of news/entertainment confusion and society’s fixation on physicality.”
     

    Judge Reinhold used to look like the Movie Star Version of me, until he got a lot of plastic surgery.

    • Replies: @JimB

    Judge Reinhold used to look like the Movie Star Version of me, until he got a lot of plastic surgery.
     
    “Mister, if you don’t shut up I’m gonna kick 100% of your ass!”
  66. The collapse of communism had some unintended consequences: among them, it made rich people more shameless in their consumption and acquisition of wealth.

  67. @Jaakko Raipala
    Kauniainen is not an ordinary town, it is a private community for the super wealthy that pretends to be a small town (it still has some legacy ordinary residents like farmer families who have owned land for generations there). It is the richest town in Finland by a large margin. Here's a list of all municipalities in Finland by per capita income (it's in Finnish but you can just look at the list, note that they bolded and separated Kauniainen at the top for whatever reason):

    https://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/a/2015121920856681

    The difference would be *massively* bigger if you could compare accumulated wealth of the residents but it's much harder to get this information.

    Kaunianen is essentially a part of the Helsinki metropolitan area that has been sectioned to be its own mini-town so that the money class can live by different rules than the rest of us. The town is known for such things as the lowest tax rates, least funded government services and the best funded private clubs and of course low diversity combined with high votes for pro-diversity parties.

    The New York Times tries to paint a marvelous picture of northern European Social Democracy by going to the one town in Finland that only exists to so that the elite can opt out of Social Democracy and minimize taxes, social services, diversity and everything else that the NYT praises about northern European Social Democracies. I wonder whether they know what they're doing - are they trying to fool America or have they actually fooled themselves?

    Either way, I love to hear about Finnish happy egalitarianism from foreign journalists who travel to the most resented exclusive elite town where no working class Finn could afford to live and who visit exclusive clubs that you can't join unless your family can afford massive donations. I also love it that tons of gullible Americans hear about this amazing number of well-funded clubs that are "subsidized by the government" and they imagine that this is some socialist utopia where such facilities are provided to the ordinary person free of charge.

    Though a while ago there was a big political scandal when the government actually tried to put a "refugee reception center" in Kaunianen. It was lobbied by some rich guy who thought he would make big money out of renting his properties to the government. The outrage of the Kaunianen residents caused much joy in Finnish dissident right sites since everyone knows that Kaunianen is full of rich liberals with often purely inherited wealth who love diversity and who hate nationalism.

    Thanks for this.

  68. This story is a pretty transparent pander to NYT’s wine-aunt core readership. Hey Boomers, the fulfilling communitarian life that you’re entitled to is yours for the taking – all you need is MOAR GOV!

  69. @Trevor H.
    Imagine the USA with only 140 million people. Sounds almost like heaven. But we had already imported some people who said "Nice country you have here, it'd be a shame if something happened to it..."

    The added people haven’t really contributed much to the cultural life of the country. If you compare the Oscar nominations for best picture in the forties with now, with the possible exception of special effects, the movies aren’t twice as good now with twice as many people to draw from as a talent pool. The same goes for comparing best seller book lists from then and now, hit songs from then and now and so on.

  70. @OilcanFloyd
    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d757c0cb6c869271d8e8b2843514d32b

    Give her the black dye job that some Finnish women have, and she definitely looks Asian. I know that Finns are sensitive about it, but lots of Finns, especially in the eastern part of the country, have an NE Asian look.

    I guess we are looking at the same picture from the article.

    No idea if this is her natural shade, but it looks more likely then the red dye she has in the “I Miss You” vid:

    • Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    I don't know. Her parents are supposed to be Icelanders.
  71. Buried at the end of the article was this:

    Wealth helps, too.

    Though the proportion of low-earners in Kauniainen is about the same as in the rest of Finland, the percentage of high-earners is roughly double the national average, said Mr. Masar, the mayor.

    Since the town’s municipal tax rates are fractionally lower than elsewhere in the country, Kauniainen has become an attractive destination for those with the means to move here.

    But this has advantages for all residents.

    Individually, the rich pay less tax. But collectively they create a larger tax yield, enabling the town council to spend about four times as much on cultural activities, per capita, than the average Finnish district, three times as much on sports, and 50 percent more on child care.

    Aha! So the secret to this finnish socialist paradise is………………trickle-down economics?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Individually, the rich pay less tax.
     
    Europe's truly rich don't pay any tax. They live in places like Monaco.
  72. @YetAnotherAnon
    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/beauty/cosmetic-surgery/actress-renee-zellweger-responds-to-plastic-surgery-rumours/news-story/d080a1158cc7a01e1ac351b3794c464d

    “Not that it’s anyone’s business but I did not make a decision to alter my face and have surgery on my eyes,” the actress said. “This fact is of no true import to anyone at all but that the possibility alone was discussed among respected journalists and became a public conversation is a disconcerting illustration of news/entertainment confusion and society’s fixation on physicality.”
     

    If you notice the careful wording (“…I did not make a decision to…”), its possible – only just possible – she had, say, a horrible accident skiing or in an automobile which made reconstructive surgery necessary and the results are the best the physicians could do to make her look presentable, but they were unable to preserve her original appearance. This possibility seems very unlikely. I cannot think of anyone at all so obsessed with privacy they would be compelled to hide such a guiltless event from
    the public but who also had the ganas for attention necessaary to be a successful actress (a superstar, really!).

    [MORE]

    I’ve no reason to believe she is anything but a wonderful person, and I only make the sarcastic comment I did because of the vanishingly small probability she’ll ever see it and have her feelings hurt coupled with my genuine disappointment such a gorgeous woman felt compelled to get cosmetic surgery (as I believ she did) to make herself uglier and more generic. I see this all the time, even just with what women do to themselves with makeup, going from “lovely girl with [charming feature X: a crooked smile, dimples, a beauty mark, freckles, etc.]” to cookie-cutter “that hoe over there” (with orange skin, drawn-on eyebrows, fake eyelashes, hair that’s been chemically treated all to Hell, and so much make-up you’d need an hour with a hammer-drill to discover what she truly looks like under it). If you check early photos of many famous women you can see they were pretty and distinctive before gravitating toward a certain template for “overdone Kardashian-clone” that underpins current standards of beauty.

    Ironically, this phenomenon (of generic THOTs) is way more shameful than the fundamental and never changing proclivity we all have to appreciate physical beauty, and demand it in most movie-stars for the same reasons we demand professional athletes not be fat smokers with artificial knees: no one wants to watch ugly people portray dashing heroes and ravishing heroines.

    Melissa Joan Hart, a happily married mother with traditional, healthy values, has eyes which are ever so slightly asymmetrical. When I remark I think she’s stunning, friends often say something like “she’s got a wonky eye thing” – but that is part of wht makes her stunning; its not an unattractive deformity, just a little quirk that makes her unique. I know lots of women who found David Bowie especially handsome in part because of his anisocoria, and so on. People, even actors and actresses whose job is in part to be good-looking, can be good-looking while still being individuals. Melissa Joan Hart, a happily married mother with traditional, healthy values, has eyes which are ever so slightly asymmetrical. When I remark I think she’s stunning, friends often say something like “she’s got a wonky eye thing” – but that is part of wht makes her stunning; its not an unattractive deformity, just a little quirk that makes her unique. Leann Rimes was once a pleasantly curvy gal with a natural look, but now she’s a gaunt, orange Generic Celebrity. Lindsay Lohan underwent a similar trajectory; we havent seen any of her freckles since the last tome she was sober, a decade ago, or whateber. I know lots of women who found David Bowie especially handsome in part because of his anisocoria, and so on.

    I just think the trends to conformityy are really sad, and they suppress true beauty.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    I just thought it was funny that she could complain about "society's fixation on physicality", as if her career and her looks were only tangentially connected (I know beauties are ten to the dime in media/film, but it's pretty much a must-have).

    I agree that her cute Lapp/Sami eyes (her mother's from the tippety-top of Norway, Finnmark) seem to have vanished and been replaced with standard social X-ray issue. Pity. I suppose it could be age.
    , @Rosamond Vincy

    she had, say, a horrible accident skiing or in an automobile which made reconstructive surgery necessary and the results are the best the physicians could do to make her look presentable, but they were unable to preserve her original appearance
     
    That is exactly what happened to Jennifer Grey, who combined the cuteness of a romantic lead with the quirkiness of a character actress. After promising turns in Ferris Beuller and Dirty Dancing, she was in a car accident that injured her nose, and the reconstruction replaced quirky-n-cute with generic. Her career faltered and never entirely recovered its initial momentum.
  73. @Steve Sailer
    Judge Reinhold used to look like the Movie Star Version of me, until he got a lot of plastic surgery.

    Judge Reinhold used to look like the Movie Star Version of me, until he got a lot of plastic surgery.

    “Mister, if you don’t shut up I’m gonna kick 100% of your ass!”

  74. @anon


    In this single small town, there are over 100 sports and cultural clubs, all of them subsidized in some way by the local council: clubs for the Swedish-speaking minority, clubs for the Finnish majority,
     
    There you have it.
    The majority has its own club separate from the minority. Happiness ensues.

    No. I’d say most wealthy neighborhoods tend to be happy.

    And they get more participation in the orgies.

  75. @Rob McX

    How 2 Average Guys Started the Year’s Most Controversial Meme
     
    If they're "average guys", America is well and truly screwed.

    If they’re “average guys”, America is well and truly screwed.

    Both are named Brandon. That suggests something about their parents.

  76. @Mr. Anon
    Buried at the end of the article was this:

    Wealth helps, too.

    Though the proportion of low-earners in Kauniainen is about the same as in the rest of Finland, the percentage of high-earners is roughly double the national average, said Mr. Masar, the mayor.

    Since the town’s municipal tax rates are fractionally lower than elsewhere in the country, Kauniainen has become an attractive destination for those with the means to move here.

    But this has advantages for all residents.

    Individually, the rich pay less tax. But collectively they create a larger tax yield, enabling the town council to spend about four times as much on cultural activities, per capita, than the average Finnish district, three times as much on sports, and 50 percent more on child care.
     
    Aha! So the secret to this finnish socialist paradise is..................trickle-down economics?

    Individually, the rich pay less tax.

    Europe’s truly rich don’t pay any tax. They live in places like Monaco.

  77. @Rosamond Vincy
    No idea if this is her natural shade, but it looks more likely then the red dye she has in the "I Miss You" vid:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=htobTBlCvUU

    I don’t know. Her parents are supposed to be Icelanders.

  78. @Autochthon
    If you notice the careful wording ("...I did not make a decision to..."), its possible – only just possible – she had, say, a horrible accident skiing or in an automobile which made reconstructive surgery necessary and the results are the best the physicians could do to make her look presentable, but they were unable to preserve her original appearance. This possibility seems very unlikely. I cannot think of anyone at all so obsessed with privacy they would be compelled to hide such a guiltless event from
    the public but who also had the ganas for attention necessaary to be a successful actress (a superstar, really!).



    I've no reason to believe she is anything but a wonderful person, and I only make the sarcastic comment I did because of the vanishingly small probability she'll ever see it and have her feelings hurt coupled with my genuine disappointment such a gorgeous woman felt compelled to get cosmetic surgery (as I believ she did) to make herself uglier and more generic. I see this all the time, even just with what women do to themselves with makeup, going from "lovely girl with [charming feature X: a crooked smile, dimples, a beauty mark, freckles, etc.]" to cookie-cutter "that hoe over there" (with orange skin, drawn-on eyebrows, fake eyelashes, hair that's been chemically treated all to Hell, and so much make-up you'd need an hour with a hammer-drill to discover what she truly looks like under it). If you check early photos of many famous women you can see they were pretty and distinctive before gravitating toward a certain template for "overdone Kardashian-clone" that underpins current standards of beauty.

    Ironically, this phenomenon (of generic THOTs) is way more shameful than the fundamental and never changing proclivity we all have to appreciate physical beauty, and demand it in most movie-stars for the same reasons we demand professional athletes not be fat smokers with artificial knees: no one wants to watch ugly people portray dashing heroes and ravishing heroines.

    Melissa Joan Hart, a happily married mother with traditional, healthy values, has eyes which are ever so slightly asymmetrical. When I remark I think she's stunning, friends often say something like "she's got a wonky eye thing" – but that is part of wht makes her stunning; its not an unattractive deformity, just a little quirk that makes her unique. I know lots of women who found David Bowie especially handsome in part because of his anisocoria, and so on. People, even actors and actresses whose job is in part to be good-looking, can be good-looking while still being individuals. Melissa Joan Hart, a happily married mother with traditional, healthy values, has eyes which are ever so slightly asymmetrical. When I remark I think she's stunning, friends often say something like "she's got a wonky eye thing" – but that is part of wht makes her stunning; its not an unattractive deformity, just a little quirk that makes her unique. Leann Rimes was once a pleasantly curvy gal with a natural look, but now she's a gaunt, orange Generic Celebrity. Lindsay Lohan underwent a similar trajectory; we havent seen any of her freckles since the last tome she was sober, a decade ago, or whateber. I know lots of women who found David Bowie especially handsome in part because of his anisocoria, and so on.

    I just think the trends to conformityy are really sad, and they suppress true beauty.

    I just thought it was funny that she could complain about “society’s fixation on physicality“, as if her career and her looks were only tangentially connected (I know beauties are ten to the dime in media/film, but it’s pretty much a must-have).

    I agree that her cute Lapp/Sami eyes (her mother’s from the tippety-top of Norway, Finnmark) seem to have vanished and been replaced with standard social X-ray issue. Pity. I suppose it could be age.

  79. @Autochthon
    If you notice the careful wording ("...I did not make a decision to..."), its possible – only just possible – she had, say, a horrible accident skiing or in an automobile which made reconstructive surgery necessary and the results are the best the physicians could do to make her look presentable, but they were unable to preserve her original appearance. This possibility seems very unlikely. I cannot think of anyone at all so obsessed with privacy they would be compelled to hide such a guiltless event from
    the public but who also had the ganas for attention necessaary to be a successful actress (a superstar, really!).



    I've no reason to believe she is anything but a wonderful person, and I only make the sarcastic comment I did because of the vanishingly small probability she'll ever see it and have her feelings hurt coupled with my genuine disappointment such a gorgeous woman felt compelled to get cosmetic surgery (as I believ she did) to make herself uglier and more generic. I see this all the time, even just with what women do to themselves with makeup, going from "lovely girl with [charming feature X: a crooked smile, dimples, a beauty mark, freckles, etc.]" to cookie-cutter "that hoe over there" (with orange skin, drawn-on eyebrows, fake eyelashes, hair that's been chemically treated all to Hell, and so much make-up you'd need an hour with a hammer-drill to discover what she truly looks like under it). If you check early photos of many famous women you can see they were pretty and distinctive before gravitating toward a certain template for "overdone Kardashian-clone" that underpins current standards of beauty.

    Ironically, this phenomenon (of generic THOTs) is way more shameful than the fundamental and never changing proclivity we all have to appreciate physical beauty, and demand it in most movie-stars for the same reasons we demand professional athletes not be fat smokers with artificial knees: no one wants to watch ugly people portray dashing heroes and ravishing heroines.

    Melissa Joan Hart, a happily married mother with traditional, healthy values, has eyes which are ever so slightly asymmetrical. When I remark I think she's stunning, friends often say something like "she's got a wonky eye thing" – but that is part of wht makes her stunning; its not an unattractive deformity, just a little quirk that makes her unique. I know lots of women who found David Bowie especially handsome in part because of his anisocoria, and so on. People, even actors and actresses whose job is in part to be good-looking, can be good-looking while still being individuals. Melissa Joan Hart, a happily married mother with traditional, healthy values, has eyes which are ever so slightly asymmetrical. When I remark I think she's stunning, friends often say something like "she's got a wonky eye thing" – but that is part of wht makes her stunning; its not an unattractive deformity, just a little quirk that makes her unique. Leann Rimes was once a pleasantly curvy gal with a natural look, but now she's a gaunt, orange Generic Celebrity. Lindsay Lohan underwent a similar trajectory; we havent seen any of her freckles since the last tome she was sober, a decade ago, or whateber. I know lots of women who found David Bowie especially handsome in part because of his anisocoria, and so on.

    I just think the trends to conformityy are really sad, and they suppress true beauty.

    she had, say, a horrible accident skiing or in an automobile which made reconstructive surgery necessary and the results are the best the physicians could do to make her look presentable, but they were unable to preserve her original appearance

    That is exactly what happened to Jennifer Grey, who combined the cuteness of a romantic lead with the quirkiness of a character actress. After promising turns in Ferris Beuller and Dirty Dancing, she was in a car accident that injured her nose, and the reconstruction replaced quirky-n-cute with generic. Her career faltered and never entirely recovered its initial momentum.

  80. @Intelligent Dasein
    Not OT just oblique.

    Brookings Institute: US Population Growth Hits an 80-Year Low, Capping Off a Year of Demographic Stagnation.

    Despite the fact that immigration to America is actually lower now than it was during the last decade, the ratio of immigration to natural increase was 50% lower then than now. Today, they are nearly equal. Both immigration and natural increase are falling fast, which confirms my oft-repeated assertion that mass immigration simply depopulates the world in a few generations. It does not result in more children being born in either the sending countries or the receiving countries; it only swells the increasingly infertile adult population of the cities.

    If those obsessed with demographics were serious, they would campaign against womb-productivity-based monthly welfare and the colossal unfairness in the progressive tax code, which provides checks of up to $6,431 on top of the multi-layered monthly welfare benefits—checks that increase per child produced.

    They’re not serious. They put cheap, welfare-bouyed labor—i.e. workers able to work part time and temp jobs for low wages because of their unearned income from .gov—above………everything.

    The demographic reversal was made possible by the reduction in monthly bills for single-breadwinner households—i.e. EBT X the number of persons per household, rental assistance that increases per kid birthed, electricity assistance and monthly cash assistance—for citizens and noncitizens who stay below the income limits for welfare.

    It was fueled by the cash-assistance checks, issued by the US Treasury Department, that many single moms call their “taxes.” Non-income tax payers often spend those checks on self-indulgent items, like tattoos and beach trips with boyfriends, not on their children.

    The whole ethos of being responsible for kids, and of growing up and living up to that responsibility, has been eviscerated by this system, along with the old demographic ratio.

    It has made marriage optional for womb producers, and it has made men expendable household members, albeit .gov is funding stay-at-home motherhood for many legal / illegal immigrants who have their own twist on working the welfare system.

    In the case of the legal / illegal immigrants, you almost always see male-breadwinner, single-earner households, with the moms showing up to apply for assistance at the Department of Human Services, carrying their US-born kids’ SS cards and evidence of income from a boyfriend or spouse.

    They bring the eight paycheck stubs required as proof of traceable income, falling below the income limits for the programs, whereas the US citizens who qualify are almost always single-breadwinner moms with their own paycheck stubs.

    They work part-time jobs for low wages that keep them continuously under the very / very low earned-income limit for welfare, or they apply only during months when they are not working in somewhat higher-paying temporary positions that put them over the income limits for those months, whereas the legal / illegal immigrants often have nothing but gig income. It is all in their work histories, which reflect the fact that they go in and out of churn jobs.

    This has created a job market where tons of citizens & noncitizens just need a little earned income to supplement womb-productivity-based unearned income from welfare programs and the US Treasury Department.

    To have middle-class household formation of any kind, including for single citizens without children, you need jobs that are not designed for the welfare-eligible.

    This rigged system has kept wages down for 40 years, and it has not resulted in 1) the family formation among the majority demographic that you seek or 2) the ability of many single, non-welfare-eligible, childless earners, with one earned-only income stream, to even cover the cost of rent.

    I am not saying that the single, childless citizens matter, but you womb producers pump out about 28% non-womb-producing offspring. And the impact of the rigged system can affect you in this way. Many retired US citizens have grown-** children living with them or, in some cases, living on their property in various types of dwellings. This includes college grads, even the ones with sheepskins from prestigious institutions.

    Rather than encouraging more white people to reproduce, Uniparty Democrats and Uniparty Republicans have set up a system that creates an incentive to reproduce in single-earner households.

    They have created a system, in which it is advantageous to keep two of the few household-supporting jobs in the USA under one roof, helping to halve the size of the college-educated middle class.

    They have created a wage-depressing situation where married couples, with a spouse working a low-wage part-time job to add keeping-up-with-the-Jones’ income to the household, are rewarded via the tax code, even though they have the same impact on wages as welfare-eligible single-breadwinner moms.

    So-called working parents who take a ton of time off in their family-friendly jobs would rather do anything than raise the children they produce. Those children are now raised by $9-per-hour daycare workers, NannyCams, low-wage babysitters and elderly retired-in-name-only grandparents.

    This setup has not been successful in other ways. A good indicator is the 300% increase in tbe frequency of mass shootings, including school shootings which are often carried out by children—children no longer raised by their parents.

    Uniparty Democrats and Republicans have created a welfare and tax system that is advantageous for legal and illegal, womb-producing immigrants, including non-English-speaking immigrants without the means to support even one child. Most reproduce immediately after entering a strange country, rather than waiting awhile to become acclimated. They do that because they are paid by the US government per child produced.

    White US citizens, and many Black citizens in the college-educated middle class, were raised, in most cases, with strong social pressure not to produce a bunch of kids they can’t afford to feed and house in middle-class style.

    They often wait to reproduce, feeling social pressure to acheive a type of middle-class security that is not available in this rigged system that was intentionally set up by the Democrats, with post-Reagan Republicans supporting it just as much as Democrats due to the cheap-labor streams for their campaign donors.

    Keep on rigging with more child tax credits and womb-productivity-based welfare. All who support it are not in the least serious about their demographic proselytizing.

    • Agree: Clyde
  81. I sympathise if that really is what happened to Renée Zellweger; she was gorgeous before and the change must be devastating; I mean, if I’d looked like Cary Grant my whole life then woke up one day looking like I do now, I’d probably spend a month crying. But I would’t, if I were also a famous actor like Grant, be evasive and weird about the change. I’d explain to my public I’d been in an accident, so of course I look different now. I assume that’s what Grey did. Mark Hamill had the same kind of experience (the scuttlebutt is the scene wherein the wampa slashes Luke Skywalker’s face was used to handily explain Mark’s facial scar within the films’ diegesis.) The part about losing one’s career could explains the bitterness at a Hollywoo that only wants beautiful people, but, hey, it’s a bit convenient that Renée wasn’t complaining about that when she looked like this:

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    It’s too much when these actresses, models, and singers build a career upon being gorgeous then squawk about people paying attention to how gorgeous they are or are not. Imagine Nolan Ryan bitching that he cannot get work anymore just because he’s older and doesn’t throw baseballs as fast as he used to. Or a gifted pianist stricken by palsy who demanded to continue to perform for packed houses with the local symphony orchestra because, “Hey, Why You So Obsessed with My Dexterity, Bigot!” I posted here awhile ago on that topic the vlogger Birdman’s commentary about Ariel Winter, who’d been protesting vehemently about attention paid to her body: the vlogger says something like “HOLY SHIT! Ariel, someone hacked your Instagram account: it is full of photos this person took of you half naked and from about a foot away and then has been posting to your Instagram account for months. Doubtless you’ve been working furiously to stop this violation but the villain keeps managing to follow you around on the beach and hack your accounts over and over.” He also says something like “Hey, you know how to not have people talk about your ass all the time?: Wear clothes that cover your ass. Those shorts you keep wearing go up the crack of your ass; THAT is why people keep talking about your shorts and your ass. See, I wear shorts almost every day, but they cover my ass, so literally no one has ever said a word to me about my ass hanging out of my shorts.” It’s worth listening to his points.

    And if you REALLY want to show them up and succeed without being gorgeous, it can be done, after a fashion: Kathy Bates, John C. Reilly, Danny DeVito, Roseanne Barr – these are not beautiful people. Sure, they’ll never be leading men and ladies after the fashion of Gregory Peck or Nicole Kidman, but I’d sure as Hell trade my career for theirs. Look at Hamill: he said “Okay, horrible B-movies like The Gyver are my future if I don’t figure something out,” and then he became one of the most successful voice-actors in the world: Psst, Renée: Call up Raphael Bob-Waksberg or Justin Roiland.

  82. @Dan Hayes
    Achmed E. Newman:

    And to realize that, wonders of wonders, Roger Daltrey has morphed into a modern-day paleoconservative!

    I had no idea. Thanks, Dan.

  83. @Jaakko Raipala

    Give her the black dye job that some Finnish women have, and she definitely looks Asian. I know that Finns are sensitive about it, but lots of Finns,
     
    Finns have an East Asian genetic component, yes that is true....

    especially in the eastern part of the country,
     
    ...but this is complete bullshit. There is no visible difference between east and west. The only visible geographic difference is that the far north has a much higher frequency of Asian traits but even in the far north or among Saamis there are just no people who look like full Asians like the guy in the photo and no one here is going to mistake him for a Finn or a Saami.

    There are physical differences between eastern and western Finns which used to be intensely studied but they're not that eastern Finns look more Asian. For example, eastern Finns are much more likely to have red hair (which is pretty much the most typical Finno-Ugric trait).

    (For the record, I'm from the West, and I got a bunch of relatives who do have a bit of an Asian look in facial features that makes foreigners ask strange questions because my relatives also tend to be tall and blue eyed. I seem to have missed it except for some eye folds that no one seems to notice because I have blue eyes.)

    Agree. I am a 50% Karelian (Karjalainen); have strawberry blonde hair, have sons (6’+) with red (& strawberry blonde; with non-melanin skin) hair, and have DNA data (done in Finland; serious obsessive doctors in my family) that goes back to the early 1500’s. I have one son who is dark haired, blue-eyed, and taller than the other sons – they all look alike, and have some of the same annoying quirks & habits that infuriate me, but, they all look different in degrees of hair and skin color – they can grow awesome, spectacular bears. However, Renee’ Zellweger would look just like my cousins…I adore her, and will always adore her.

  84. beards…spectacular beards 🙂

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