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World Series look-alikes:

Dodgers game 2 starter Rich Hill

and Biff Tannen (Thomas F. Wilson) of Back to the Future

Dodger reliever Josh Fields who gave up two homers and a double in the 10th inning but was bailed out by some bottom of the 10th heroics to tie the game

Delmar (Tim Blake Nelson) in O Brother Where Art Thou

With the game tied 5-5 going into the 11th, I don’t know who is going to win, but has there ever been a more lopsided extra-inning tie game? Houston has been consistently better, but the Dodgers have scored 5 while leaving only 1 man on base.

Okay, 7-6 in 11 innings. Houston had to work really hard to win because they didn’t have luck until the bottom of the 11th when Seager’s and Turner’s line drives happened to be hit right at defenders before Culberson’s homer, then the relief pitcher finally struck out Puig after a long battle.

Dodgers scored 6 runs while leaving only on 2 on base. That’s the second game in a row that they left only 2 on base, winning the first game 3-1. So they’ve scored 9 runs in two games, while leaving only 4 on base, which is awfully efficient. Six of the Dodgers 11 hits so far in the World Series have been home runs, which is part of the sabermetrics-driven trend toward “three true outcomes:” homer, walk, or strikeout.

The eight home runs in the game (four for each team) set a World Series record. The Dodgers have hit 16 homers in the last 7 postseason games.

Neither team had a 40 homer hitter this season, but they both have deep rosters of good hitters. The Dodgers have six players who hit at least 20 homers this year and the Astros have 11 players who hit at least 10.

The Astros were second in the majors in homers this year with 238 to the Dodgers 221, but the Astros also led the majors in doubles and were last in walks — they’re more of an old-fashioned line drive hitting team that hits a lot of homers because they hit the ball really hard in general. The Dodgers led the majors in walks, so they are more of a modern team focused on walks and homers.

Also, the pitchers have been really good in the World Series so the main offensive strategy for both teams has been not to try to string several base hits together but to try to get lucky with big swings. For example, Jason Verlander was close to overwhelming tonight, giving up only two hits in six innings, but he left losing 3-1 because the Dodgers got lucky with homers the two times they hit the ball hard off him.

The problem is that baseball is more exciting with men on base. The most exciting part of the game was in the bottom of the tenth with two outs losing 5-4 when Dodger reserve Logan Forsythe worked a walk, went to second on a wild pitch, and then scored with a headfirst slide on a single. Baseball is better when players run home rather than jog home.

This is not to say baseball has major trouble — it appears to be doing nicely. But the game is becoming a little unbalanced in terms of death or glory, strikeout or homer strategies.

 
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  1. What are you looking at, butthead?

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    @guest

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/25/media/mark-halperin-sexual-harassment-allegations/index.html

    The sexual harassment Inquisition continues. The SJWs are going all in, turning on their own leaders.

    I wonder how this stops? A CNN article also said "what about online harassment?"

    At some point society starts to break down and cease to function when it's females basically revolt en masse. We should curb social media.....

    Replies: @MBlanc46

  2. Yeah, not really, at least from those photos. Hill does bear a passing resemblance to someone I can’t put my finger on, but not Biff.

    BTW, in Back To The Future 1950s Biff had an awesomely cool 50’s car. Between that, the Delorean, and the car Marty gets at the end of Back to the Future I, it seems the director or producer was a car buff. I would guess for car buffs (which I am not) seeing Biff’s 1950s car get ruined with manure in Back to the Future I (launching a running gag in the series) must’ve been twice as painful as for non-car guys.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @whorefinder

    Another good reason not to get a convertible. The other is don't want to end up like JFK on the grassy knoll. Either way, riding around in a convertible makes one an easy target for bad stuff to happen.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Clyde

    , @Neoconned
    @whorefinder

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/25/entertainment/heather-lind-george-bush-harassment/index.html

    Even being a 90 yr old PRESIDENT n a wheelchair and senility can't protect you from this Inquisition.....

    THIS HAS to be stopped NOW.

    We are allowing this to degenerate to the point of lunacy.

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Pericles

    , @Sam Haysom
    @whorefinder

    Steve is awesome. But he definitely has face blindness. I wonder if that has something to do with his height. I'm six twoish and I definitely see facial congruites better than my 6-four brother. Maybe because I'm more used to looking at people from less of an angle.

    Then again this wouldn't apply to photographs so this is probally a dumb theory.

  3. By the way, how has Hollywood not raped, err, remade or “re-imagined” Back to the Future yet? That’s gotta be the last movie franchise of the previous generation unmined for precious nostalgia deposits. Where’s the Back to the Future Cinematic Universe no one actually wants?

    By the way, I recently heard a Back to the Future comic book promoted on some 80s radio station DJ’d by some has-been MTV VJ. He pitched it as something like, “Ever wondered what adventures Emmett “Doc” Brown and his family got into on the flying time-machine train seen at the end of Back to the Future III?”

    I was all, “No, because I already saw it on Back to the Future: the Animated Series on Saturday mornings.”

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    @guest

    Maybe BTTF is too cerebral for the idiot kids nowadays.....

    Anyway I agree let the Twitterati sisterhood bite off more than it can chew. They targeted a former president who's not Clinton and basically committed arson on one of the most successful production companies in Hollywood. At a certain point either social media gets clipped and or there's a massive backlash to the point 90+% of men go mgtow or Heartiste

  4. OT from VICE News today: Public universities can’t legally stop Richard Spencer from speaking

    Spencer successfully sued Auburn University in April, winning a $30,000 settlement and then speaking on campus shortly after. That had an immediate chilling effect on universities that were considering denying Spencer a forum.

    Interesting choice of words there: The ruling had a “chilling effect” on the suppression of free speech at these universities.

    • Replies: @guest
    @larry lurker

    They're perpetually playing the Game of Opposites inside their heads.

    As Vox Day says, SJWs always project. They want to suppress Spencer's speech, so they talk as if Spencer speaking is itself somehow the suppression of speech.

    It makes sense if you realize they are always correct, no matter what.

    , @Clyde
    @larry lurker


    OT from VICE News today: Public universities can’t legally stop Richard Spencer from speaking
     
    Good news if actually true because this will extend to Anne Coulter level dissidents too. Peter Brimelowe of VDare should give this a test drive. Fly in the ointment is that the terms of establishment vary from state to state on their public universities. Lord knows useless eater lefty profs have been feeding at this trough. For decades.
    , @27 year old
    @larry lurker

    They felt chills in their sad excuses for spines.

    Spencer is a tremendous asset for our side. Even though he has some wacky ideas and even though he's kind of faggy sometimes, having a dedicated public White advocate is a good thing. He has a trust fund, so he can afford to do this full time, which is what we need. He's not perfect but he is filling a role.

  5. Justin Turner definitely looks like a Viking

  6. I’m on the east coast, so forgive me for not knowing this.

    Why the heck do the Dodgers use the third base dugout at home? I’ve wondered this for decades, but I’ve never heard anyone mention it.

    • Replies: @Busby
    @I, Libertine

    According to the rules, the home team gets to choose which dugout is assigned to which team.

    I've never been there, but the mythology of Dodger Stadium is that the dugout on the third base side is nice and shady. Just a little home field advantage.

    , @Ian M.
    @I, Libertine

    There are lots of teams that use the third base dugout at home. The Detroit Tigers do, so do the Cubs. According to Wikipedia, twelve teams use the third base dugout at home.

    Or is there some reason that I'm missing for why it's odd specifically that the Dodgers do so?

    , @Marty
    @I, Libertine

    The Giants had always used a first base-side home dugout, but switched to third when they opened their new park in '00. I figured they did it hoping to emulate the financial success of Dodger stadium.

  7. Zach Hill really looks like a total drunkard/drug junkie wipeout

  8. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    A long list of pitchers in this game tightened up and choked under pressure!

    Good to see the Astros come alive and refuse to go down like zombie eunuchs two nights in a row. Things got very interesting!

    Last night against Kershaw they shoulda coulda used every trick in the book to delay the game and break the rhythm. They will need a real war plan to beat Kershaw in game 5.

    War plan:

    1. Have every batter delay the game with equipment adjustments, ball inspections, etc. Step out of the box ten times.

    2. Manager needs to come out like Earl Weaver and go nuclear on the strike zone. Repeatedly.

    3. Have the batters yell insults/obscenities at Kershaw. Start a fight if you have to.

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
    @Anonymous

    IIRC, it's an automatic ejection if a manager argues balls and strikes.

    , @bomag
    @Anonymous


    ... delay the game... go nuclear... yell insults
     
    IOW, go ghetto.

    Seems like those are the things fans complain about.

    You can win the war and lose the peace.
    , @Brutusale
    @Anonymous

    I had a routine when batting in high school and Legion baseball: the pitcher had 5 seconds, by my internal clock, to go into his motion. If he didn't, I'd step out.

    If a pitcher shook off the catcher more than once, I'd step out and look back at the ump. It would get the ump to make a "speed it up" motion out to the mound more times than you'd think.

    Rattling pitchers was as much fun as getting hits off of them!

    Replies: @Sam Haysom, @The Last Real Calvinist

  9. @larry lurker
    OT from VICE News today: Public universities can't legally stop Richard Spencer from speaking

    Spencer successfully sued Auburn University in April, winning a $30,000 settlement and then speaking on campus shortly after. That had an immediate chilling effect on universities that were considering denying Spencer a forum.
     
    Interesting choice of words there: The ruling had a "chilling effect" on the suppression of free speech at these universities.

    Replies: @guest, @Clyde, @27 year old

    They’re perpetually playing the Game of Opposites inside their heads.

    As Vox Day says, SJWs always project. They want to suppress Spencer’s speech, so they talk as if Spencer speaking is itself somehow the suppression of speech.

    It makes sense if you realize they are always correct, no matter what.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  10. @Anonymous
    A long list of pitchers in this game tightened up and choked under pressure!

    Good to see the Astros come alive and refuse to go down like zombie eunuchs two nights in a row. Things got very interesting!

    Last night against Kershaw they shoulda coulda used every trick in the book to delay the game and break the rhythm. They will need a real war plan to beat Kershaw in game 5.

    War plan:

    1. Have every batter delay the game with equipment adjustments, ball inspections, etc. Step out of the box ten times.

    2. Manager needs to come out like Earl Weaver and go nuclear on the strike zone. Repeatedly.

    3. Have the batters yell insults/obscenities at Kershaw. Start a fight if you have to.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @bomag, @Brutusale

    IIRC, it’s an automatic ejection if a manager argues balls and strikes.

  11. Ken Giles: John Malkovich.

  12. Never fully understood how a walk is considered to be a “true outcome”. Why isn’t a single double triple considered to be a true outcome? Or rather, why isn’t a clean hit considered to be a true outcome? The batter had to work just as hard to hit the ball as to take a pitch to reach base. Per Ted Williams, perhaps hitting the ball consistently for hits is one of the hardest things to do in MLB.

    Irony being, that in the era of sabermetrics, MLB’s TV attendance is among its lowest ever, especially when compared to the NFL and NCAA. Granted, with LA in the WS at last the ratings will be skewed toward the west coast accordingly. But due to a lack of a west coast team this year in the WS, don’t be surprised if total WS ratings are down significantly on the East Coast (especially when compared to last years excitement of seeing if CHI could actually win for the first time in 108 yrs).

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    What the 'three true outcomes' have in common is that they don't involve fielding. They're determined completely between the pitcher and the batter, so from the sabermetric point of view, they're more useful in judging how effective a pitcher really is because no one else is involved in the outcome.

    I can see the logic of this approach, but I don't like what it does to the game, which is to encourage pitchers to focus on getting strikeouts, and batters to try for long at-bats in which they seek either a walk or a pitch they can crush, and simultaneously to wear down the pitcher by making him throw lots of pitches and get tired.

    All of this combines for slow-moving, lengthy games with lots of interminable at-bats.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @Sam Haysom, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  13. Did Sabermetrics tell Roberts to pull Hill in the 5th?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mike P.

    The Dodgers manager Dave Roberts is a big believer in the idea that the more times hitters get to see a pitcher in a game, the more they get used to him and the better they hit him.

    Looking at splits for Hill's career, this isn't really apparent:

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=hillri01&year=Career&t=p

    In Hill's career, he's slightly better the third time through the batting order than the second time through (although he gets hit harder the 4th time through).

    On the other hand, it is likely that Hill's more likely to see the batting order a third time on the days when he has good stuff, so you'd need more sophisticated adjustments to figure out whether lineups actually "solve" Hill as the game goes on.

    I imagine big leaguers get told a lot about his pitching patterns before the game so it might not be as strong an effect as 30 years ago when, say, Tony Gwynn's secret was that he had a big satellite TV dish on his roof and his wife recorded all the pitchers in the league for him and kept his VHSs in a big video library for him to study before facing a starter.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @johnmark7

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Mike P.

    One write-up of the game on MLB.com (LINK) implied that Roberts decided to pull Hill because the next five batters coming up for Houston were all right-handed. Hill's a lefty whose most impressive pitch is a great big curveball, so this seems to be more of a 'traditional' baseball decision.

    It certainly doesn't look like Roberts was consulting any sabermetric info, because I just checked Hill's L/R splits for this year (LINK), and it tells the opposite story. Hill had an ERA of 5.54 against lefties, vs 2.79 vs righties. His WHIP was 1.69 vs lefties, vs 0.95 vs righties.

    The Dodgers sure could have used another inning or two from Hill, so that Jansen would only have been needed for his usual three-out save.

    , @DCThrowback
    @Mike P.

    I see you haven't gotten your copy of the (baseball) bible yet

    https://www.amazon.com/Book-Playing-Percentages-Baseball/dp/1494260174

    , @anonymous
    @Mike P.

    And, boy, was Hill ever pissed! Can't say that I blame him. Reminded me in a way of when then-Yankee manager Bob Lemon pulled Tommy John in the fourth inning of Game Six of the '81 Series vs. Lasorda's Dodgers. Though his response was more muted than that of Hill--John was and is a Born Again Christian--the look of disdain and anger recorded on John's face by the TV cameras was plain to see. John had only given up one run but Lemon replaced him in favor of a pinch hitter because there was no DH being used during that Series even though the game was in Yankee Stadium. The Dodgers went on to win the game and the Series. George Frazier, who relieved John, would become the only pitcher to be the losing pitcher in all four WS games won by the Dodgers.

    The Dodgers won four WS games in a row. Is that a record? Perhaps iSteve or someone else would know if that's the only time this was ever done.

    Replies: @JudgeSmails, @ScarletNumber

  14. @whorefinder
    Yeah, not really, at least from those photos. Hill does bear a passing resemblance to someone I can't put my finger on, but not Biff.

    BTW, in Back To The Future 1950s Biff had an awesomely cool 50's car. Between that, the Delorean, and the car Marty gets at the end of Back to the Future I, it seems the director or producer was a car buff. I would guess for car buffs (which I am not) seeing Biff's 1950s car get ruined with manure in Back to the Future I (launching a running gag in the series) must've been twice as painful as for non-car guys.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Neoconned, @Sam Haysom

    Another good reason not to get a convertible. The other is don’t want to end up like JFK on the grassy knoll. Either way, riding around in a convertible makes one an easy target for bad stuff to happen.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    There's nothing wrong with owning a really nice convertible, but it's not for the bashful. People gaze at you when you drive with the top down.

    , @Clyde
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    Another good reason not to get a convertible. The other is don’t want to end up like JFK on the grassy knoll. Either way, riding around in a convertible makes one an easy target for bad stuff to happen.
     
    Q- What did the guy sitting in front of Pee Wee Herman and JFK have in common?
    A- They both got a shot in the head.
  15. Outside of major league baseball, Rich Hill’s look-alike is James Comey.

    I sincerely hope that Hill is more successful in his chosen profession than gumshoe Comey has been in his.

    • Replies: @pyrrhus
    @Dan Hayes

    Comey's corruption has made him a multi-millionaire, thanks to the Clintons and their gang.

    Replies: @EdwardM

  16. @Mike P.
    Did Sabermetrics tell Roberts to pull Hill in the 5th?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @The Last Real Calvinist, @DCThrowback, @anonymous

    The Dodgers manager Dave Roberts is a big believer in the idea that the more times hitters get to see a pitcher in a game, the more they get used to him and the better they hit him.

    Looking at splits for Hill’s career, this isn’t really apparent:

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=hillri01&year=Career&t=p

    In Hill’s career, he’s slightly better the third time through the batting order than the second time through (although he gets hit harder the 4th time through).

    On the other hand, it is likely that Hill’s more likely to see the batting order a third time on the days when he has good stuff, so you’d need more sophisticated adjustments to figure out whether lineups actually “solve” Hill as the game goes on.

    I imagine big leaguers get told a lot about his pitching patterns before the game so it might not be as strong an effect as 30 years ago when, say, Tony Gwynn’s secret was that he had a big satellite TV dish on his roof and his wife recorded all the pitchers in the league for him and kept his VHSs in a big video library for him to study before facing a starter.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Steve Sailer

    A lot of the star MLB power pitchers were exactly the opposite in that if you didn't get to them in the first 2 innings you were in trouble. I seem to recall reading a stat that during Roger Clemens' career with the Red $ox opponents batted something like .350 against him in the 1st inning and .190 for the next 6 innings.

    , @johnmark7
    @Steve Sailer

    You have to get to Madison Bumgarner early, too.

  17. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @whorefinder

    Another good reason not to get a convertible. The other is don't want to end up like JFK on the grassy knoll. Either way, riding around in a convertible makes one an easy target for bad stuff to happen.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Clyde

    There’s nothing wrong with owning a really nice convertible, but it’s not for the bashful. People gaze at you when you drive with the top down.

  18. This reply is actually in response to comment 40 by the preferred nomenclature is… in yesterday’s World Series thread.
    I’m posting here because I want this to be widely viewed by the baseball geeks.
    the preferred nomenclature is… lamented that the strike zone in game one was generous, “huge” is the word he used, and described a particularly egregious example on a strikeout of Altuve.
    Ha!
    This game from 20 years ago was resurrected during gym talk yesterday.
    For those who are unfamiliar with this playoff game in 1997 between the Atlanta Braves and the Florida Marlins, prepare to be astounded.
    Those who know of this game, it is well worth another look.
    Eric Gregg should not have umpired another game after this debacle. But he did.
    The obvious question is “how did Livan Hernandez only fan 15 batters?”

    • Replies: @james wilson
    @JudgeSmails

    Wrong. Eric Gregg should not have umpired another game several years before this debacle. May shame stick eternally to the umpires union and the cowards who inhabit mlb offices. Bring on the Robots.

    , @Alec Leamas
    @JudgeSmails

    After the umpire's strike/resignation, Gregg wound up being a host at a popular Philadelphia Sports Bar/Crab Restaurant for a while. Nice guy.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

  19. @Mike P.
    Did Sabermetrics tell Roberts to pull Hill in the 5th?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @The Last Real Calvinist, @DCThrowback, @anonymous

    One write-up of the game on MLB.com (LINK) implied that Roberts decided to pull Hill because the next five batters coming up for Houston were all right-handed. Hill’s a lefty whose most impressive pitch is a great big curveball, so this seems to be more of a ‘traditional’ baseball decision.

    It certainly doesn’t look like Roberts was consulting any sabermetric info, because I just checked Hill’s L/R splits for this year (LINK), and it tells the opposite story. Hill had an ERA of 5.54 against lefties, vs 2.79 vs righties. His WHIP was 1.69 vs lefties, vs 0.95 vs righties.

    The Dodgers sure could have used another inning or two from Hill, so that Jansen would only have been needed for his usual three-out save.

  20. @Anonymous
    A long list of pitchers in this game tightened up and choked under pressure!

    Good to see the Astros come alive and refuse to go down like zombie eunuchs two nights in a row. Things got very interesting!

    Last night against Kershaw they shoulda coulda used every trick in the book to delay the game and break the rhythm. They will need a real war plan to beat Kershaw in game 5.

    War plan:

    1. Have every batter delay the game with equipment adjustments, ball inspections, etc. Step out of the box ten times.

    2. Manager needs to come out like Earl Weaver and go nuclear on the strike zone. Repeatedly.

    3. Have the batters yell insults/obscenities at Kershaw. Start a fight if you have to.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @bomag, @Brutusale

    … delay the game… go nuclear… yell insults

    IOW, go ghetto.

    Seems like those are the things fans complain about.

    You can win the war and lose the peace.

  21. @JudgeSmails
    This reply is actually in response to comment 40 by the preferred nomenclature is... in yesterday's World Series thread.
    I'm posting here because I want this to be widely viewed by the baseball geeks.
    the preferred nomenclature is... lamented that the strike zone in game one was generous, "huge" is the word he used, and described a particularly egregious example on a strikeout of Altuve.
    Ha!
    This game from 20 years ago was resurrected during gym talk yesterday.
    For those who are unfamiliar with this playoff game in 1997 between the Atlanta Braves and the Florida Marlins, prepare to be astounded.
    Those who know of this game, it is well worth another look.
    Eric Gregg should not have umpired another game after this debacle. But he did.
    The obvious question is "how did Livan Hernandez only fan 15 batters?"

    https://youtu.be/mR3eK5gCChM

    Replies: @james wilson, @Alec Leamas

    Wrong. Eric Gregg should not have umpired another game several years before this debacle. May shame stick eternally to the umpires union and the cowards who inhabit mlb offices. Bring on the Robots.

  22. Besides looking like Comey, Hill looks more like Mark Wahlberg than Tannen.

  23. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Never fully understood how a walk is considered to be a "true outcome". Why isn't a single double triple considered to be a true outcome? Or rather, why isn't a clean hit considered to be a true outcome? The batter had to work just as hard to hit the ball as to take a pitch to reach base. Per Ted Williams, perhaps hitting the ball consistently for hits is one of the hardest things to do in MLB.

    Irony being, that in the era of sabermetrics, MLB's TV attendance is among its lowest ever, especially when compared to the NFL and NCAA. Granted, with LA in the WS at last the ratings will be skewed toward the west coast accordingly. But due to a lack of a west coast team this year in the WS, don't be surprised if total WS ratings are down significantly on the East Coast (especially when compared to last years excitement of seeing if CHI could actually win for the first time in 108 yrs).

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    What the ‘three true outcomes’ have in common is that they don’t involve fielding. They’re determined completely between the pitcher and the batter, so from the sabermetric point of view, they’re more useful in judging how effective a pitcher really is because no one else is involved in the outcome.

    I can see the logic of this approach, but I don’t like what it does to the game, which is to encourage pitchers to focus on getting strikeouts, and batters to try for long at-bats in which they seek either a walk or a pitch they can crush, and simultaneously to wear down the pitcher by making him throw lots of pitches and get tired.

    All of this combines for slow-moving, lengthy games with lots of interminable at-bats.

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    I was about to write something like what you did until I noticed your reply.

    I would have added parenthetically: it should be at least four true outcomes, to account for the hit-by-pitch.

    Hey, it's these nerdy SABRmetricians (the ones who came up with "three true outcomes") who want to bring mathematically precision to baseball, not me!

    , @Sam Haysom
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    I've always wondered about this. Thanks for the explanation. Kind of makes me wonder if a ground rule double shouldn't be included in the true outcomes too.

    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    To restore a sense of balance toward pitching, institute a seven pitch per batter. In other words, each batter would see seven pitches and that's it. If he doesn't connect, strikeout, walk by the seventh pitch it's an automatic out. This might cause strikeouts to go down over the long haul, or it may actually increase them, since the batters wouldn't be able to wear down the pitcher and may start swinging at nearly every pitch up there. Over time, however, hitters would adjust accordingly (just as they've always done) and figure out a way to hit the ball while seeing fewer pitches.

  24. @larry lurker
    OT from VICE News today: Public universities can't legally stop Richard Spencer from speaking

    Spencer successfully sued Auburn University in April, winning a $30,000 settlement and then speaking on campus shortly after. That had an immediate chilling effect on universities that were considering denying Spencer a forum.
     
    Interesting choice of words there: The ruling had a "chilling effect" on the suppression of free speech at these universities.

    Replies: @guest, @Clyde, @27 year old

    OT from VICE News today: Public universities can’t legally stop Richard Spencer from speaking

    Good news if actually true because this will extend to Anne Coulter level dissidents too. Peter Brimelowe of VDare should give this a test drive. Fly in the ointment is that the terms of establishment vary from state to state on their public universities. Lord knows useless eater lefty profs have been feeding at this trough. For decades.

  25. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @whorefinder

    Another good reason not to get a convertible. The other is don't want to end up like JFK on the grassy knoll. Either way, riding around in a convertible makes one an easy target for bad stuff to happen.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Clyde

    Another good reason not to get a convertible. The other is don’t want to end up like JFK on the grassy knoll. Either way, riding around in a convertible makes one an easy target for bad stuff to happen.

    Q- What did the guy sitting in front of Pee Wee Herman and JFK have in common?
    A- They both got a shot in the head.

  26. Keep noticing: “Baseball is better when players run home rather than jog home.”

    MLB should moderately deaden the ball.

  27. Suggested changes to boost traditional offense, that is hitting for something other than HRs and strike outs:

    – Limit rosters to 9 pitchers. Stop procession of relievers
    – Go to electronic strikes and balls. Give hitters consistent strike zone
    – Allow only manager to visit mound. Once for consultation. Second to remove pitcher

    • Replies: @johnmark7
    @Shouting Thomas

    Agreed, but have the robot ump call the actual strike zone. Fast balls across the letters won't be golfed out of the park. They have to be driven into the field (unless you're Buster Posey who loves the high strike and drives it for homers).

  28. @JudgeSmails
    This reply is actually in response to comment 40 by the preferred nomenclature is... in yesterday's World Series thread.
    I'm posting here because I want this to be widely viewed by the baseball geeks.
    the preferred nomenclature is... lamented that the strike zone in game one was generous, "huge" is the word he used, and described a particularly egregious example on a strikeout of Altuve.
    Ha!
    This game from 20 years ago was resurrected during gym talk yesterday.
    For those who are unfamiliar with this playoff game in 1997 between the Atlanta Braves and the Florida Marlins, prepare to be astounded.
    Those who know of this game, it is well worth another look.
    Eric Gregg should not have umpired another game after this debacle. But he did.
    The obvious question is "how did Livan Hernandez only fan 15 batters?"

    https://youtu.be/mR3eK5gCChM

    Replies: @james wilson, @Alec Leamas

    After the umpire’s strike/resignation, Gregg wound up being a host at a popular Philadelphia Sports Bar/Crab Restaurant for a while. Nice guy.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Alec Leamas

    Well WAS a nice guy, as he has been dead for 11 years.

  29. @guest
    What are you looking at, butthead?

    Replies: @Neoconned

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/25/media/mark-halperin-sexual-harassment-allegations/index.html

    The sexual harassment Inquisition continues. The SJWs are going all in, turning on their own leaders.

    I wonder how this stops? A CNN article also said “what about online harassment?”

    At some point society starts to break down and cease to function when it’s females basically revolt en masse. We should curb social media…..

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @Neoconned

    I don’t think that the revolt can be stopped. It might be best to let things play out and see what, if anything, can be saved after things collapse.

  30. @Dan Hayes
    Outside of major league baseball, Rich Hill's look-alike is James Comey.

    I sincerely hope that Hill is more successful in his chosen profession than gumshoe Comey has been in his.

    Replies: @pyrrhus

    Comey’s corruption has made him a multi-millionaire, thanks to the Clintons and their gang.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
    • Replies: @EdwardM
    @pyrrhus

    Really? Are you suggesting that he was somehow paid off by them before he turned on them?

    I wouldn't be surprised, though it's also worth nothing that he milked the usual Beltway revolving door previously as a Republican to get rich. After serving in the G.W. Bush DOJ, he went to the defense industry then to an investment firm.

    It's interesting that he went from deputy attorney general to (after his break in the private sector) head of the FBI -- the latter position nominally reports to the former. I guess it's more fun to be where the action is, and the opportunities for post-"service" employment are probably equivalent.

    I suppose this isn't unheard-of in the government. Same with various trigger-pulling agencies in Treasury and DHS, where it's probably more gratifying to get treated by a rock star by your 10,000 tough guys than to have the thankless job as some undersecretary dealing with Congressional inquiries and nosy HQ bureaucrats, even if the latter position is nominally higher-ranking. If it were me, I'd probably hold out for a cabinet position after being deputy A.G. rather than take a step back.

    Does a typical army officer prefer to be in command of a company as a captain instead of a bureaucrat major? Not that anyone would decline a promotion, or would he? In the military, it's more up-or-out, plus you want to build your pension so it's not really the same as the world of political appointments.

    Back to your original point, at least Comey can thank the Clintons for his high-seven-figure book contract. Ironically the readership for his book will likely be about the same audience as for What Happened? Nobody will remember either in four years.

  31. @whorefinder
    Yeah, not really, at least from those photos. Hill does bear a passing resemblance to someone I can't put my finger on, but not Biff.

    BTW, in Back To The Future 1950s Biff had an awesomely cool 50's car. Between that, the Delorean, and the car Marty gets at the end of Back to the Future I, it seems the director or producer was a car buff. I would guess for car buffs (which I am not) seeing Biff's 1950s car get ruined with manure in Back to the Future I (launching a running gag in the series) must've been twice as painful as for non-car guys.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Neoconned, @Sam Haysom

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/25/entertainment/heather-lind-george-bush-harassment/index.html

    Even being a 90 yr old PRESIDENT n a wheelchair and senility can’t protect you from this Inquisition…..

    THIS HAS to be stopped NOW.

    We are allowing this to degenerate to the point of lunacy.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    @Neoconned

    http://www.artnews.com/2017/10/25/following-knight-landesman-sexual-harassment-suit-other-women-come-forward/

    One last post.....know what this reminds me of......a leaderless Cultural Revolution like a chicken running around with it's head cut off.

    Social media will be the death nail of the elitist left.

    , @Pericles
    @Neoconned

    They should send that poor, poor girl a photo with a signed apology. Motif: GHWB in wheel-chair doing a thumbs-up.

  32. @Mike P.
    Did Sabermetrics tell Roberts to pull Hill in the 5th?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @The Last Real Calvinist, @DCThrowback, @anonymous

    I see you haven’t gotten your copy of the (baseball) bible yet

  33. @Neoconned
    @whorefinder

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/25/entertainment/heather-lind-george-bush-harassment/index.html

    Even being a 90 yr old PRESIDENT n a wheelchair and senility can't protect you from this Inquisition.....

    THIS HAS to be stopped NOW.

    We are allowing this to degenerate to the point of lunacy.

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Pericles

    http://www.artnews.com/2017/10/25/following-knight-landesman-sexual-harassment-suit-other-women-come-forward/

    One last post…..know what this reminds me of……a leaderless Cultural Revolution like a chicken running around with it’s head cut off.

    Social media will be the death nail of the elitist left.

  34. @I, Libertine
    I'm on the east coast, so forgive me for not knowing this.

    Why the heck do the Dodgers use the third base dugout at home? I've wondered this for decades, but I've never heard anyone mention it.

    Replies: @Busby, @Ian M., @Marty

    According to the rules, the home team gets to choose which dugout is assigned to which team.

    I’ve never been there, but the mythology of Dodger Stadium is that the dugout on the third base side is nice and shady. Just a little home field advantage.

  35. Look, after an Andro American crashed the Guided Missle cruiser in his charge the Navy replaced him with a Gyno American.

    Navy Cruiser Involved in May Collision Receives New Commander
    http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/09/29/navy-cruiser-involved-may-collision-receives-new-commander.html

    This is why the US military wins wars, passing command posts from father to daughter.

    The Unique Military Background Of Coronado’s Ellinger Family
    http://www.coronadonewsca.com/news/coronado_island_news/the-unique-military-background-of-coronado-s-ellinger-family/article_b327be76-a2b6-11e5-8f3b-57607c83d1e2.html

  36. It appears to me that they in search of the single most dysfunctional person in the world, and when that person is discovered he/she will be installed as the sole arbiter of all social norms.

  37. larry lurker:

    Wrong; university facilities are private property, so they aren’t compelled to provide a place to speak to Mr. Spencer or anyone else.

    Just sayin.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @TheOldOne

    l


    arry lurker:

    Wrong; university facilities are private property, so they aren’t compelled to provide a place to speak to Mr. Spencer or anyone else.

    Just sayin.
     
    Public universities are private property?

    Some 'splainin' to do...
    , @ScarletNumber
    @TheOldOne

    Public universities are agents of the state.

  38. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike P.
    Did Sabermetrics tell Roberts to pull Hill in the 5th?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @The Last Real Calvinist, @DCThrowback, @anonymous

    And, boy, was Hill ever pissed! Can’t say that I blame him. Reminded me in a way of when then-Yankee manager Bob Lemon pulled Tommy John in the fourth inning of Game Six of the ’81 Series vs. Lasorda’s Dodgers. Though his response was more muted than that of Hill–John was and is a Born Again Christian–the look of disdain and anger recorded on John’s face by the TV cameras was plain to see. John had only given up one run but Lemon replaced him in favor of a pinch hitter because there was no DH being used during that Series even though the game was in Yankee Stadium. The Dodgers went on to win the game and the Series. George Frazier, who relieved John, would become the only pitcher to be the losing pitcher in all four WS games won by the Dodgers.

    The Dodgers won four WS games in a row. Is that a record? Perhaps iSteve or someone else would know if that’s the only time this was ever done.

    • Replies: @JudgeSmails
    @anonymous

    A team winning 4 World Series games in a row is not particularly unusual. There are instances of 4-0 sweeps and several situations where a team won one or two games followed by the opposing team then reeling off 4 straight wins.
    A personally painful example is the 1996 Series between the Atlanta Braves and the New York Yankees. The Braves crushed the Yanks in the first 2 games in New York. The Yankees won the next 4 games, with the Series turning on a yuuuuge homer by Yankee catcher Jim Leyritz. No team has ever recovered from losing the first 3 games of the Series, and then winning 4 straight.

    Personal note: Jimmy Leyritz played ball at the junior college in my hometown in Georgia. Cincy guy IIRC. One of my sisters dated him for a while.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @ScarletNumber
    @anonymous

    Ron Guidry lost game 5 2-1 to Jerry Reuss.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  39. @I, Libertine
    I'm on the east coast, so forgive me for not knowing this.

    Why the heck do the Dodgers use the third base dugout at home? I've wondered this for decades, but I've never heard anyone mention it.

    Replies: @Busby, @Ian M., @Marty

    There are lots of teams that use the third base dugout at home. The Detroit Tigers do, so do the Cubs. According to Wikipedia, twelve teams use the third base dugout at home.

    Or is there some reason that I’m missing for why it’s odd specifically that the Dodgers do so?

  40. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    What the 'three true outcomes' have in common is that they don't involve fielding. They're determined completely between the pitcher and the batter, so from the sabermetric point of view, they're more useful in judging how effective a pitcher really is because no one else is involved in the outcome.

    I can see the logic of this approach, but I don't like what it does to the game, which is to encourage pitchers to focus on getting strikeouts, and batters to try for long at-bats in which they seek either a walk or a pitch they can crush, and simultaneously to wear down the pitcher by making him throw lots of pitches and get tired.

    All of this combines for slow-moving, lengthy games with lots of interminable at-bats.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @Sam Haysom, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    I was about to write something like what you did until I noticed your reply.

    I would have added parenthetically: it should be at least four true outcomes, to account for the hit-by-pitch.

    Hey, it’s these nerdy SABRmetricians (the ones who came up with “three true outcomes”) who want to bring mathematically precision to baseball, not me!

  41. I have no idea what this post says. I csn’t bring mysrlf yo read sports blogging (or correct my typing when commenting on said blog pists…).

  42. @larry lurker
    OT from VICE News today: Public universities can't legally stop Richard Spencer from speaking

    Spencer successfully sued Auburn University in April, winning a $30,000 settlement and then speaking on campus shortly after. That had an immediate chilling effect on universities that were considering denying Spencer a forum.
     
    Interesting choice of words there: The ruling had a "chilling effect" on the suppression of free speech at these universities.

    Replies: @guest, @Clyde, @27 year old

    They felt chills in their sad excuses for spines.

    Spencer is a tremendous asset for our side. Even though he has some wacky ideas and even though he’s kind of faggy sometimes, having a dedicated public White advocate is a good thing. He has a trust fund, so he can afford to do this full time, which is what we need. He’s not perfect but he is filling a role.

  43. @Anonymous
    A long list of pitchers in this game tightened up and choked under pressure!

    Good to see the Astros come alive and refuse to go down like zombie eunuchs two nights in a row. Things got very interesting!

    Last night against Kershaw they shoulda coulda used every trick in the book to delay the game and break the rhythm. They will need a real war plan to beat Kershaw in game 5.

    War plan:

    1. Have every batter delay the game with equipment adjustments, ball inspections, etc. Step out of the box ten times.

    2. Manager needs to come out like Earl Weaver and go nuclear on the strike zone. Repeatedly.

    3. Have the batters yell insults/obscenities at Kershaw. Start a fight if you have to.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @bomag, @Brutusale

    I had a routine when batting in high school and Legion baseball: the pitcher had 5 seconds, by my internal clock, to go into his motion. If he didn’t, I’d step out.

    If a pitcher shook off the catcher more than once, I’d step out and look back at the ump. It would get the ump to make a “speed it up” motion out to the mound more times than you’d think.

    Rattling pitchers was as much fun as getting hits off of them!

    • Replies: @Sam Haysom
    @Brutusale

    And then I'd peg you in the ribs or knee and you you'd spend the rest of the game six inches off the plate and unable to reach corner strikes.

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Brutusale


    Rattling pitchers was as much fun as getting hits off of them!

     

    Yes, but we pitchers have countering tactics. I was a high school pitcher, and I liked to push the pace of the game as much as possible. I'd often rush into my windup if a batter was in the batter's box but was wasting time digging in or ritualizing. Most high school batters didn't have the poise and wherewithal to call time, so I'd often catch them off guard.

    And as Sam has mentioned, there's always the possibility of an utterly spontaneous, unexpected, out-of-the-blue spasm of pitch command failure, resulting in a fastball at least a foot inside.

    At the MLB level, the umpire has a significant role in game pacing, since it's within his power to grant or deny the batter time outs. Right now the balance seems heavily in batters' favor, i.e. when was the last time you saw an umpire tell a batter to just stay in the box and get on with it?
  44. @Steve Sailer
    @Mike P.

    The Dodgers manager Dave Roberts is a big believer in the idea that the more times hitters get to see a pitcher in a game, the more they get used to him and the better they hit him.

    Looking at splits for Hill's career, this isn't really apparent:

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=hillri01&year=Career&t=p

    In Hill's career, he's slightly better the third time through the batting order than the second time through (although he gets hit harder the 4th time through).

    On the other hand, it is likely that Hill's more likely to see the batting order a third time on the days when he has good stuff, so you'd need more sophisticated adjustments to figure out whether lineups actually "solve" Hill as the game goes on.

    I imagine big leaguers get told a lot about his pitching patterns before the game so it might not be as strong an effect as 30 years ago when, say, Tony Gwynn's secret was that he had a big satellite TV dish on his roof and his wife recorded all the pitchers in the league for him and kept his VHSs in a big video library for him to study before facing a starter.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @johnmark7

    A lot of the star MLB power pitchers were exactly the opposite in that if you didn’t get to them in the first 2 innings you were in trouble. I seem to recall reading a stat that during Roger Clemens’ career with the Red $ox opponents batted something like .350 against him in the 1st inning and .190 for the next 6 innings.

  45. Men on base also set up one of the most exciting plays in bb: the well-executed outfield to infield to catcher relay to throw out a runner at the plate.

  46. @I, Libertine
    I'm on the east coast, so forgive me for not knowing this.

    Why the heck do the Dodgers use the third base dugout at home? I've wondered this for decades, but I've never heard anyone mention it.

    Replies: @Busby, @Ian M., @Marty

    The Giants had always used a first base-side home dugout, but switched to third when they opened their new park in ’00. I figured they did it hoping to emulate the financial success of Dodger stadium.

  47. @pyrrhus
    @Dan Hayes

    Comey's corruption has made him a multi-millionaire, thanks to the Clintons and their gang.

    Replies: @EdwardM

    Really? Are you suggesting that he was somehow paid off by them before he turned on them?

    I wouldn’t be surprised, though it’s also worth nothing that he milked the usual Beltway revolving door previously as a Republican to get rich. After serving in the G.W. Bush DOJ, he went to the defense industry then to an investment firm.

    It’s interesting that he went from deputy attorney general to (after his break in the private sector) head of the FBI — the latter position nominally reports to the former. I guess it’s more fun to be where the action is, and the opportunities for post-“service” employment are probably equivalent.

    I suppose this isn’t unheard-of in the government. Same with various trigger-pulling agencies in Treasury and DHS, where it’s probably more gratifying to get treated by a rock star by your 10,000 tough guys than to have the thankless job as some undersecretary dealing with Congressional inquiries and nosy HQ bureaucrats, even if the latter position is nominally higher-ranking. If it were me, I’d probably hold out for a cabinet position after being deputy A.G. rather than take a step back.

    Does a typical army officer prefer to be in command of a company as a captain instead of a bureaucrat major? Not that anyone would decline a promotion, or would he? In the military, it’s more up-or-out, plus you want to build your pension so it’s not really the same as the world of political appointments.

    Back to your original point, at least Comey can thank the Clintons for his high-seven-figure book contract. Ironically the readership for his book will likely be about the same audience as for What Happened? Nobody will remember either in four years.

  48. @Neoconned
    @guest

    http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/25/media/mark-halperin-sexual-harassment-allegations/index.html

    The sexual harassment Inquisition continues. The SJWs are going all in, turning on their own leaders.

    I wonder how this stops? A CNN article also said "what about online harassment?"

    At some point society starts to break down and cease to function when it's females basically revolt en masse. We should curb social media.....

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    I don’t think that the revolt can be stopped. It might be best to let things play out and see what, if anything, can be saved after things collapse.

  49. Some company I never heard of ran a commercial during the World Series last night that showed the Apollo moon capsule, caption “Dark Side of the Moon, 1971”. Inside the capsule? A Zany Black guy and a clearly lesbian blonde chick with the shaved-head skrillix hairdo. Hmmm, 1971, Apollo-to-the-moon. That was men, they were Navy pilots and the enlistment contracts all demanded heterosexuals in the program back then, Lesbians and gay Black men not invited. I guess they got past the Hidden Figures on the way out to the launch pad.

  50. @whorefinder
    Yeah, not really, at least from those photos. Hill does bear a passing resemblance to someone I can't put my finger on, but not Biff.

    BTW, in Back To The Future 1950s Biff had an awesomely cool 50's car. Between that, the Delorean, and the car Marty gets at the end of Back to the Future I, it seems the director or producer was a car buff. I would guess for car buffs (which I am not) seeing Biff's 1950s car get ruined with manure in Back to the Future I (launching a running gag in the series) must've been twice as painful as for non-car guys.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @Neoconned, @Sam Haysom

    Steve is awesome. But he definitely has face blindness. I wonder if that has something to do with his height. I’m six twoish and I definitely see facial congruites better than my 6-four brother. Maybe because I’m more used to looking at people from less of an angle.

    Then again this wouldn’t apply to photographs so this is probally a dumb theory.

  51. @Brutusale
    @Anonymous

    I had a routine when batting in high school and Legion baseball: the pitcher had 5 seconds, by my internal clock, to go into his motion. If he didn't, I'd step out.

    If a pitcher shook off the catcher more than once, I'd step out and look back at the ump. It would get the ump to make a "speed it up" motion out to the mound more times than you'd think.

    Rattling pitchers was as much fun as getting hits off of them!

    Replies: @Sam Haysom, @The Last Real Calvinist

    And then I’d peg you in the ribs or knee and you you’d spend the rest of the game six inches off the plate and unable to reach corner strikes.

  52. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    What the 'three true outcomes' have in common is that they don't involve fielding. They're determined completely between the pitcher and the batter, so from the sabermetric point of view, they're more useful in judging how effective a pitcher really is because no one else is involved in the outcome.

    I can see the logic of this approach, but I don't like what it does to the game, which is to encourage pitchers to focus on getting strikeouts, and batters to try for long at-bats in which they seek either a walk or a pitch they can crush, and simultaneously to wear down the pitcher by making him throw lots of pitches and get tired.

    All of this combines for slow-moving, lengthy games with lots of interminable at-bats.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @Sam Haysom, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    I’ve always wondered about this. Thanks for the explanation. Kind of makes me wonder if a ground rule double shouldn’t be included in the true outcomes too.

  53. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    What the 'three true outcomes' have in common is that they don't involve fielding. They're determined completely between the pitcher and the batter, so from the sabermetric point of view, they're more useful in judging how effective a pitcher really is because no one else is involved in the outcome.

    I can see the logic of this approach, but I don't like what it does to the game, which is to encourage pitchers to focus on getting strikeouts, and batters to try for long at-bats in which they seek either a walk or a pitch they can crush, and simultaneously to wear down the pitcher by making him throw lots of pitches and get tired.

    All of this combines for slow-moving, lengthy games with lots of interminable at-bats.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @Sam Haysom, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    To restore a sense of balance toward pitching, institute a seven pitch per batter. In other words, each batter would see seven pitches and that’s it. If he doesn’t connect, strikeout, walk by the seventh pitch it’s an automatic out. This might cause strikeouts to go down over the long haul, or it may actually increase them, since the batters wouldn’t be able to wear down the pitcher and may start swinging at nearly every pitch up there. Over time, however, hitters would adjust accordingly (just as they’ve always done) and figure out a way to hit the ball while seeing fewer pitches.

  54. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    This is not to say baseball has major trouble — it appears to be doing nicely. But the game is becoming a little unbalanced in terms of death or glory, strikeout or homer strategies.This is not to say baseball has major trouble — it appears to be doing nicely. But the game is becoming a little unbalanced in terms of death or glory, strikeout or homer strategies.

    That’s why the 2015 Kansas City Royals were such a joy to watch.

  55. @anonymous
    @Mike P.

    And, boy, was Hill ever pissed! Can't say that I blame him. Reminded me in a way of when then-Yankee manager Bob Lemon pulled Tommy John in the fourth inning of Game Six of the '81 Series vs. Lasorda's Dodgers. Though his response was more muted than that of Hill--John was and is a Born Again Christian--the look of disdain and anger recorded on John's face by the TV cameras was plain to see. John had only given up one run but Lemon replaced him in favor of a pinch hitter because there was no DH being used during that Series even though the game was in Yankee Stadium. The Dodgers went on to win the game and the Series. George Frazier, who relieved John, would become the only pitcher to be the losing pitcher in all four WS games won by the Dodgers.

    The Dodgers won four WS games in a row. Is that a record? Perhaps iSteve or someone else would know if that's the only time this was ever done.

    Replies: @JudgeSmails, @ScarletNumber

    A team winning 4 World Series games in a row is not particularly unusual. There are instances of 4-0 sweeps and several situations where a team won one or two games followed by the opposing team then reeling off 4 straight wins.
    A personally painful example is the 1996 Series between the Atlanta Braves and the New York Yankees. The Braves crushed the Yanks in the first 2 games in New York. The Yankees won the next 4 games, with the Series turning on a yuuuuge homer by Yankee catcher Jim Leyritz. No team has ever recovered from losing the first 3 games of the Series, and then winning 4 straight.

    Personal note: Jimmy Leyritz played ball at the junior college in my hometown in Georgia. Cincy guy IIRC. One of my sisters dated him for a while.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @JudgeSmails


    Cincy guy IIRC.
     
    He graduated from Turpin high school, archrival of Anderson, where I graduated a couple years later. I remember watching him play, and dominate, little league.

    The turnaround in that series was shocking. Everyone assumed the Braves would sweep.

  56. @guest
    By the way, how has Hollywood not raped, err, remade or "re-imagined" Back to the Future yet? That's gotta be the last movie franchise of the previous generation unmined for precious nostalgia deposits. Where's the Back to the Future Cinematic Universe no one actually wants?

    By the way, I recently heard a Back to the Future comic book promoted on some 80s radio station DJ'd by some has-been MTV VJ. He pitched it as something like, "Ever wondered what adventures Emmett "Doc" Brown and his family got into on the flying time-machine train seen at the end of Back to the Future III?"

    I was all, "No, because I already saw it on Back to the Future: the Animated Series on Saturday mornings."

    Replies: @Neoconned

    Maybe BTTF is too cerebral for the idiot kids nowadays…..

    Anyway I agree let the Twitterati sisterhood bite off more than it can chew. They targeted a former president who’s not Clinton and basically committed arson on one of the most successful production companies in Hollywood. At a certain point either social media gets clipped and or there’s a massive backlash to the point 90+% of men go mgtow or Heartiste

  57. Rich Hill

    He resembles Scott Peterson, the guy convicted of murdering his pregnant wife.

  58. @TheOldOne
    larry lurker:

    Wrong; university facilities are private property, so they aren't compelled to provide a place to speak to Mr. Spencer or anyone else.

    Just sayin.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @ScarletNumber

    l

    arry lurker:

    Wrong; university facilities are private property, so they aren’t compelled to provide a place to speak to Mr. Spencer or anyone else.

    Just sayin.

    Public universities are private property?

    Some ‘splainin’ to do…

  59. @Neoconned
    @whorefinder

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/25/entertainment/heather-lind-george-bush-harassment/index.html

    Even being a 90 yr old PRESIDENT n a wheelchair and senility can't protect you from this Inquisition.....

    THIS HAS to be stopped NOW.

    We are allowing this to degenerate to the point of lunacy.

    Replies: @Neoconned, @Pericles

    They should send that poor, poor girl a photo with a signed apology. Motif: GHWB in wheel-chair doing a thumbs-up.

  60. Whew what a nail biter that was.

  61. Anonymous [AKA "Kaiser Wilhelm Scream"] says: • Website

    David Concepcion and Colin Kaepernick.

  62. @Brutusale
    @Anonymous

    I had a routine when batting in high school and Legion baseball: the pitcher had 5 seconds, by my internal clock, to go into his motion. If he didn't, I'd step out.

    If a pitcher shook off the catcher more than once, I'd step out and look back at the ump. It would get the ump to make a "speed it up" motion out to the mound more times than you'd think.

    Rattling pitchers was as much fun as getting hits off of them!

    Replies: @Sam Haysom, @The Last Real Calvinist

    Rattling pitchers was as much fun as getting hits off of them!

    Yes, but we pitchers have countering tactics. I was a high school pitcher, and I liked to push the pace of the game as much as possible. I’d often rush into my windup if a batter was in the batter’s box but was wasting time digging in or ritualizing. Most high school batters didn’t have the poise and wherewithal to call time, so I’d often catch them off guard.

    And as Sam has mentioned, there’s always the possibility of an utterly spontaneous, unexpected, out-of-the-blue spasm of pitch command failure, resulting in a fastball at least a foot inside.

    At the MLB level, the umpire has a significant role in game pacing, since it’s within his power to grant or deny the batter time outs. Right now the balance seems heavily in batters’ favor, i.e. when was the last time you saw an umpire tell a batter to just stay in the box and get on with it?

  63. @JudgeSmails
    @anonymous

    A team winning 4 World Series games in a row is not particularly unusual. There are instances of 4-0 sweeps and several situations where a team won one or two games followed by the opposing team then reeling off 4 straight wins.
    A personally painful example is the 1996 Series between the Atlanta Braves and the New York Yankees. The Braves crushed the Yanks in the first 2 games in New York. The Yankees won the next 4 games, with the Series turning on a yuuuuge homer by Yankee catcher Jim Leyritz. No team has ever recovered from losing the first 3 games of the Series, and then winning 4 straight.

    Personal note: Jimmy Leyritz played ball at the junior college in my hometown in Georgia. Cincy guy IIRC. One of my sisters dated him for a while.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Cincy guy IIRC.

    He graduated from Turpin high school, archrival of Anderson, where I graduated a couple years later. I remember watching him play, and dominate, little league.

    The turnaround in that series was shocking. Everyone assumed the Braves would sweep.

  64. @Alec Leamas
    @JudgeSmails

    After the umpire's strike/resignation, Gregg wound up being a host at a popular Philadelphia Sports Bar/Crab Restaurant for a while. Nice guy.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    Well WAS a nice guy, as he has been dead for 11 years.

  65. @TheOldOne
    larry lurker:

    Wrong; university facilities are private property, so they aren't compelled to provide a place to speak to Mr. Spencer or anyone else.

    Just sayin.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @ScarletNumber

    Public universities are agents of the state.

  66. @anonymous
    @Mike P.

    And, boy, was Hill ever pissed! Can't say that I blame him. Reminded me in a way of when then-Yankee manager Bob Lemon pulled Tommy John in the fourth inning of Game Six of the '81 Series vs. Lasorda's Dodgers. Though his response was more muted than that of Hill--John was and is a Born Again Christian--the look of disdain and anger recorded on John's face by the TV cameras was plain to see. John had only given up one run but Lemon replaced him in favor of a pinch hitter because there was no DH being used during that Series even though the game was in Yankee Stadium. The Dodgers went on to win the game and the Series. George Frazier, who relieved John, would become the only pitcher to be the losing pitcher in all four WS games won by the Dodgers.

    The Dodgers won four WS games in a row. Is that a record? Perhaps iSteve or someone else would know if that's the only time this was ever done.

    Replies: @JudgeSmails, @ScarletNumber

    Ron Guidry lost game 5 2-1 to Jerry Reuss.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @ScarletNumber

    The crucial 5th game of the 1981 World Series was one of the simplest games in my recollection.

    That season Yankee starter Ron Guidry was pretty much unhittable through 6 innings. Yankee closer Rich Gossage was unhittable in the 8th and 9th innings. That left the 7th inning the main chance for the outgunned Dodgers. Trailing 1-0 in the 7th, Guerrero and Yeager hit solo homers to win 2-1.

    It was an extremely elegant game, but not one you'd want an unending diet of.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

  67. @ScarletNumber
    @anonymous

    Ron Guidry lost game 5 2-1 to Jerry Reuss.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The crucial 5th game of the 1981 World Series was one of the simplest games in my recollection.

    That season Yankee starter Ron Guidry was pretty much unhittable through 6 innings. Yankee closer Rich Gossage was unhittable in the 8th and 9th innings. That left the 7th inning the main chance for the outgunned Dodgers. Trailing 1-0 in the 7th, Guerrero and Yeager hit solo homers to win 2-1.

    It was an extremely elegant game, but not one you’d want an unending diet of.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Steve Sailer

    It was also played in a brisk 2:19.

    The last out of the game was a strike out by the Yankee starting thirdbaseman with a runner on first. Graig Nettles? Believe it or not it was Aurelio Rodriguez. Bob Lemon started Rodriguez in LA and Nettles in NY for some reason. Two interesting facts about Rodriguez:

    1) His first name has all 5 vowels.

    2) He had the bat boy pose for his 1969 baseball card.

  68. @Steve Sailer
    @Mike P.

    The Dodgers manager Dave Roberts is a big believer in the idea that the more times hitters get to see a pitcher in a game, the more they get used to him and the better they hit him.

    Looking at splits for Hill's career, this isn't really apparent:

    https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=hillri01&year=Career&t=p

    In Hill's career, he's slightly better the third time through the batting order than the second time through (although he gets hit harder the 4th time through).

    On the other hand, it is likely that Hill's more likely to see the batting order a third time on the days when he has good stuff, so you'd need more sophisticated adjustments to figure out whether lineups actually "solve" Hill as the game goes on.

    I imagine big leaguers get told a lot about his pitching patterns before the game so it might not be as strong an effect as 30 years ago when, say, Tony Gwynn's secret was that he had a big satellite TV dish on his roof and his wife recorded all the pitchers in the league for him and kept his VHSs in a big video library for him to study before facing a starter.

    Replies: @Brutusale, @johnmark7

    You have to get to Madison Bumgarner early, too.

  69. @Shouting Thomas
    Suggested changes to boost traditional offense, that is hitting for something other than HRs and strike outs:

    - Limit rosters to 9 pitchers. Stop procession of relievers
    - Go to electronic strikes and balls. Give hitters consistent strike zone
    - Allow only manager to visit mound. Once for consultation. Second to remove pitcher

    Replies: @johnmark7

    Agreed, but have the robot ump call the actual strike zone. Fast balls across the letters won’t be golfed out of the park. They have to be driven into the field (unless you’re Buster Posey who loves the high strike and drives it for homers).

  70. @Steve Sailer
    @ScarletNumber

    The crucial 5th game of the 1981 World Series was one of the simplest games in my recollection.

    That season Yankee starter Ron Guidry was pretty much unhittable through 6 innings. Yankee closer Rich Gossage was unhittable in the 8th and 9th innings. That left the 7th inning the main chance for the outgunned Dodgers. Trailing 1-0 in the 7th, Guerrero and Yeager hit solo homers to win 2-1.

    It was an extremely elegant game, but not one you'd want an unending diet of.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    It was also played in a brisk 2:19.

    The last out of the game was a strike out by the Yankee starting thirdbaseman with a runner on first. Graig Nettles? Believe it or not it was Aurelio Rodriguez. Bob Lemon started Rodriguez in LA and Nettles in NY for some reason. Two interesting facts about Rodriguez:

    1) His first name has all 5 vowels.

    2) He had the bat boy pose for his 1969 baseball card.

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