I haven’t seen the Wonder Woman movie, but it’s doing well at the box office and appears to be well-liked. It stars a pretty Israeli actress named Gal Gadot. From the Washington Post:
How the Jewish identity of ‘Wonder Woman’s’ star is causing a stir
By Sarah Pulliam Bailey June 7 at 6:13 PM“Wonder Woman” has drawn all kinds of controversy over gender politics since its release last Friday, but it has also put the spotlight on Jewish debates over race and nationality. …
The debate “Are Jews white?” has seen a resurgence since the presidential election last year and was resurrected surrounding the release of “Wonder Woman.” …
The Obama Administration sponsored a Census Bureau initiative to carve away part of its white category by creating a separate nonwhite racial category entitled Middle Eastern and North African, which would seemingly include Israelis like Gadot. What the Trump Administration will do with this proposal is unknown.
My view is that the Federal Government usually wins arguments over racial categorization. If the Feds decide that South Asians and East Asians are the same race, eventually most people will
Gadot defies some of the stereotypes of women, especially as many Jewish women were portrayed on film as unattractive or the funny sidekick, said Emily Shire, politics editor at Bustle.
Sailer’s First Law of Female Journalism …
“It’s a landmark film for women for so many reasons, and this takes it to another level,” Shire said. “There is a history of Jews making movies and Jews loving movies, but who was on screen?” …
I dunno … Hedy Lamarr, Lauren Bacall?
Leading ladies are probably more often part Jewish, like Scarlett Johannson and Goldie Hawn, than full Jewish. Much the same seems to be true for leading men, like Paul Newman and Harrison Ford.
Here’s a strange assertion from the WaPo:
When European Jews began to immigrate to the United States, they were legally considered white while they were barred from activity in U.S. public life.
This would have come as a surprise to Senators David Levy Yulee and Judah P. Benjamin and Representative Lewis Charles Levin, all of whom served in Congress before the Civil War.
You don’t hear much about these guys because their politics are out of fashion. Levin was perhaps the most talented demagogue associated with the nativist Know Nothing party, and enjoyed a tumultuous life of riots and brawls before dying insane at an early age. Levy Yulee and Benjamin supported secession and slavery. Levy Yulee, the “Florida Fire Eater,” was locked up by the victorious Union for 9 months, while Benjamin escaped punishment by slipping away to Britain, where he became an important figure in the law.

Lynda Carter Is Beautiful:
But one of the conceits of her '70s Wonder Woman was that she was supposed to be plain-looking as an Army secretary.Replies: @Judah Benjamin Hur, @TWS, @bored identity
Her father is of English and Scots-Irish ancestry, and her mother, whose family hailed from Mexico, is of Mexican, Spanish and French descentOr for that matter what about Catherine Bach from The Dukes of Hazzard.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_BachBach was born in Warren, Ohio, the daughter of Norma Jean Kucera (née Verdugo), an acupuncturist, and Bernard Bachman, a rancher. Her mother was of Mexican descent and her father was of German ancestry.Or Raquel Welch? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raquel_WelchWelch was born as Jo-Raquel Tejada on September 5, 1940 in Chicago, Illinois.Her father, Armando Carlos Tejada Urquizo (1911–1976), was an aeronautical engineer from La Paz, Bolivia, born to Agustin Tejada and Raquel Urquizo; Welch was named after her paternal grandmother.Her mother, Josephine Sarah (née Hall; 1909–2000), was the daughter of architect Emery Stanford Hall and his wife Clara Louise Adams, and was of English origin, originally of Salford, Lancashire, that dated back to the Mayflower.Replies: @Anonymous, @englishmike, @Gunnar von Cowtown
If i were German id boycott it
The acting was contrived and like i figuref it was going to be terrible.
DCs problem is that unlike Marvel most of its characters age terribly.
W the exception of Batman, Supe and maybe Green Lantern & a few of their minor characters like Lobo they dont have good charactersReplies: @Jack D
As I was driving her to a friend's house she said "I bet you're wondering why I didn't just fly my invisible airplane".
She was classically beautiful. She'll be beautiful in her 80's.
“I haven’t seen the Wonder Woman movie, but it’s doing well at the box office and appears to be well-liked. It stars a pretty Israeli actress named Gal Gadot.” — Steve Sailer
Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.
*Square jaw, protruding forehead, bump in nose, high flat cheekbones, big mouth, noticeable lack of daintiness. And that's just the face.Replies: @Opinionator, @AnotherGuessModel, @Truth, @TWS, @Hippopotamusdrome
As almost everything human males consider "attractive" is some kind of signal of fertility or fecundity, one suspects that she radiates "attractiveness" in the form of "health" and "symmetric features" to such a high degree that she reduces most men she meets to fidgeting and babbling in her presence.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Marty, @San Fernando Curt, @SteveRogers42
Whatever.
Congratulations, you have passed the homosexuality test.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/02/nazi-aryan-baby-jewish_n_5551517.html
Who her? No, she's ugly.
Pretty -- Yes
Cute -- Yes
Womanly figure -- No
Boyish figure -- A bit. But no boys are built like that.
Feminine -- Definitely
MILF -- Absolutely
Makes Another Dad's eugenic propagation list -- Yes
Gives a flying rat's ass what any of us think -- No
Status -- Laughing all the way to the bank.Replies: @Jack D, @guest
“Florida Fire Easter” sounds a bit too bunny-centric.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Levy_Yulee says:
Yulee’s inflammatory pro-slavery rhetoric in the Senate earned him the nickname “Florida Fire Eater”.
I might as well post this here because it is certainly related.
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/
I really don’t know what more evidence one needs to show that jews are not white, if they don’t see themselves as white, then how can one not accept this ? In the case of Gal Gadot, she certainly has Arabic features.
Officially jumping ship would be a stupendously dumb idea.
1. With so many powerful whites becoming folk of color overnight, Americans still wearing the scarlet W would immediately seem - and feel - a hell of a lot less privileged, and the social justice con would become less potent really fast.
2. Jews would be alienating their greatest allies: white evangelicals and other pro-Israel Republicans.
3. Now being on the outside, Jewish progressives would probably lose a lot of influence over their gentile counterparts.
I'm sure this list could be embellished, but suffice it to say that such a move would be Bad For The Jews in many ways.
Is it possible they’re not aware one of the biggest female stars in Hollywood, Natalie Portman, is not only Jewish but was born in Jerusalem? She gets to star in plenty of action movies, too, though she’s not usually drop kicking 300-lb. men herself.
They don’t try very hard writing these articles. They take some little nugget, like Wonder Woman being Israeli and non-hideous, and immediately go off on a flight of fancy, never pausing to check actual movie history or logic.
My daddy always said, "Never sleep with anyone crazier than you are". I would still be a virgin had I followed Dad's advice.Replies: @Brutusale, @Moshe
https://twitter.com/WomenintheWorld/status/845266457525039104Replies: @Hyperborean
Yes Jews have got one big thing to be sore about--the Holocaust. But they'll find everything and anything--e.g. the golfocaust--to whine about.
Jews are obviously over-represented in front of the camera as well as behind. Just not at the crazy levels of writers or studio execs. Which of course makes sense because Hollywood's Jews are making movies and TV for America's gentiles so they don't go with--obvious (explicitly Jewish phenotype)--Jews 24x7x365. That's called "business". But if say a 98% gentile nation has say 90% gentile actors ... you'll have some Jews--especially Jewish women--readily available to whine about it. It's in the DNA.Replies: @Jack D
Now that it's frowned-on for non-minorities to play minorities, not sure how all of this is going to play out. Sad, because it used to be called, "Acting."Replies: @Robert Dunn
Has Gal Gadot had plastic surgery?
Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Johanus de Morgateroyde, @Lot, @Patrick Harris, @syonredux, @Art Deco, @biz, @Anonym, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @oddsbodkins, @Malcolm X-Lax, @MSP, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Danindc, @AnotherDad
She looks like a model, which is to say she’s masculine* and not pretty (though I wouldn’t say ugly), but she fits the currently accepted standards of beauty foisted upon us by high culture.
*Square jaw, protruding forehead, bump in nose, high flat cheekbones, big mouth, noticeable lack of daintiness. And that’s just the face.
http://www.hypable.com/gal-gadot-signs-three-picture-deal-to-play-wonder-woman/Replies: @guest
What oppressive patriarchy decided that movie stars should be blonde shiksas?
It speaks to the iSteve theory about the origin of feminism as a rechanneling of the target of Jewish women’s envy and resentment from Jewish men to men in general.
I am in favour of Jews no longer being white. Once that is clarified, the statistics of power and wealth distribution in the english speaking world suddenly become much clearer.
current breakdown at Harvard.
28% Jews, North Africans, Arabs, Middle Eastern and Persian.
22% Asian
21% White
13% Black
12% Hispanic
3% Native American (probably mostly whites like Sen. Warren)
probably many Jews will not self identify as being MENA. most Half Asians will identify as White when they apply to Harvard. I know a Korean adoptee who attended Penn, she identified as White to increase her chances of being accepted, and it workedReplies: @Art Deco
Or Carrie Fisher.
There is a subset of Jews who are really into playing the victim.
It was depressing to see how bad Fisher looked in the ripoff (the first new one). I haven't seen the newest new film - J.J. has made two so far, right?
Fisher had an amusing cameo in Scream 3 as someone who looked an awful lot like ... Carrie Fisher.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kdKjQgUVDaIReplies: @Stan Adams, @MEH 0910
*Square jaw, protruding forehead, bump in nose, high flat cheekbones, big mouth, noticeable lack of daintiness. And that's just the face.Replies: @Opinionator, @AnotherGuessModel, @Truth, @TWS, @Hippopotamusdrome
“bump in nose”??
Look at Gadot's face in profile. You'll see what I mean. If there's a better term for it than a bump, I'll gladly adopt it.
*Presumably because that's how men's faces work, and the fashion industry is run by homos. I can't think of any other explanation.
Two items.
To Steve’s point, back when Al Franken first ran against Norm Coleman for the Senate seat representing Minnesota, which had been made famous by the late lamented Paul Wellstone, a Jewish blog (which no longer exists) plaintively wondered whether those dumb flyover rednecks in Saskatcheconsin or whatever it’s called could bring themselves to Elect whom God had Chosen. Some impolite wag asked how the blogger could type such a thing given that all of the people involved, elected, defeated, or assassinated, were obviously Jewish. A few hours last that blog post was removed without explanation. But Jews reflexively take for granted that they are universally and irrationally hated, no matter how many times they are elected.
“Oh sure, I see how it is — all of you want me to move to DC!”
Second point, the creepy one: Is the anorexic mousy Arabish Gadot a refutation to my creepy Law that “phenotypically Jewish girls are gorgeous, but nobody hates them worse than Hollywood or Israeli public relations?” Gadot has something of a history in Israeli public relations, and her perfectly balanced pleasant-mousiness is definitely a plus in attracting, or not offending, female audiences: would these same “body positive” audiences embrace a modern day young Lynda Carter? Maybe this is a refutation of the Law, but it does not mean that we have the true total freedom of casting, which we will possibly see in our lifetimes once Hollywood finally dies.
That is a symptom of a guilty conscience.
From the Hebrew-wikipedia page about her: Her sabra parents had an original name of Greenshtein. Pops was an engineer and ima was a public-school teacher. Gal herself was allowed to defer her conscription-mobilization to age 20 because she had a job (a few paying gigs) as a model (such a deferment is not ridiculously difficult to get with some plausible story, especially if your pops knows somebody).
She was NOT an officer; she only did the (female) required basic 2 years, serving as a physical-training assistant. Gal probably spun tales of being Army Superwoman to these very gullible Hollywood Jews. But the ==actual== job of a "madasnikit" is to babysit low-medical-profile guys through the remedial physical-fitness course to be able to be shoved into a lower-tier infantry unit, ones that accept non-elite guys.
A madasnikit is not any kind of elite duty, my friends.
Expanding on my first item: I have an over-long and just-fatuous-enough book titled “Hollywood’s Image of the Jew.” It essentially argues that Hollywood is really controlled by WASP bigotry as opposed to say the folks who own the studios and make all the decisions.
https://emilyshire.com/. A solid 5, maybe 6 if I were drinking, but the crazy bs coming out of her mouth would probably put me off.
My daddy always said, “Never sleep with anyone crazier than you are”. I would still be a virgin had I followed Dad’s advice.
If Jews were a separate demographic category for affirmative action purposes, I suspect a lot of Jews would quickly stop supporting affirmative action – at least in such a form.
Many people on the left used to hate the old Hercules TV show with Kevin Sorbo because they considered it “whitewashed.” It always amused me greatly, like they were trying to peal off Greeks into some anti-Western coalition. Of course, they were silent about the Rock playing him.
Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Johanus de Morgateroyde, @Lot, @Patrick Harris, @syonredux, @Art Deco, @biz, @Anonym, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @oddsbodkins, @Malcolm X-Lax, @MSP, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Danindc, @AnotherDad
I understand all those words….just not arranged like that!
Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Johanus de Morgateroyde, @Lot, @Patrick Harris, @syonredux, @Art Deco, @biz, @Anonym, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @oddsbodkins, @Malcolm X-Lax, @MSP, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Danindc, @AnotherDad
Says you. She doesn’t look like Lynda Carter but what she does look like is extraordinarily healthy, especially considering that she’s in her early 30s – more than a dozen years past when she was Miss Israel.
As almost everything human males consider “attractive” is some kind of signal of fertility or fecundity, one suspects that she radiates “attractiveness” in the form of “health” and “symmetric features” to such a high degree that she reduces most men she meets to fidgeting and babbling in her presence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuAe1pZQnaQ
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/I really don't know what more evidence one needs to show that jews are not white, if they don't see themselves as white, then how can one not accept this ? In the case of Gal Gadot, she certainly has Arabic features.Replies: @syonredux, @Lot, @Stealth, @International Jew, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Anon7, @Chris Mallory, @Jay Fink, @Right wing Jew, @Marcus, @Robert Dunn
I gotta tell this to some of my Irish colleagues. Listen, guys, all you have to do is say that the Irish aren’t White…then watch the affirmative action gibs roll in…..
Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Johanus de Morgateroyde, @Lot, @Patrick Harris, @syonredux, @Art Deco, @biz, @Anonym, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @oddsbodkins, @Malcolm X-Lax, @MSP, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Danindc, @AnotherDad
Cool doodz on the Internet disdain any woman not qualified for a non-air-brushed SI Swimsuit cover.
Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Johanus de Morgateroyde, @Lot, @Patrick Harris, @syonredux, @Art Deco, @biz, @Anonym, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @oddsbodkins, @Malcolm X-Lax, @MSP, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Danindc, @AnotherDad
Oh c’mon. Gadot doesn’t fit my reactionary aesthetic ideal of womanly perfection either, but in the real world she would turn the head of any man with a pulse.
From the Forward
http://forward.com/culture/film-tv/373658/gal-gadots-wonder-woman-is-white-lets-not-pretend-otherwise/
I'm so pasty white, my skin tone is pink--does that make me a person of color? I look forward to affirmative action and the rest of the bag of gibmedats...
Had they actually been barred from public life, it would be just another real or imaginary sanction of tribal suffering they could share with other non-whites. It’s a lot more attractive a presentation than what’s believed by most non-whites, more-conscious whites, and even Jews willing to be honest about it: That Jews claim to be white when it’s advantageous for them to do so – and non-white for the same reason. Giving them their Middle Eastern ethnic option could at least send them packing from the tent. “A people apart” works for me. … And good riddance.
Which, when you bear in mind where Gadot’s family comes from, is kinda funny:
http://ethnicelebs.com/gal-gadot
Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Johanus de Morgateroyde, @Lot, @Patrick Harris, @syonredux, @Art Deco, @biz, @Anonym, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @oddsbodkins, @Malcolm X-Lax, @MSP, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Danindc, @AnotherDad
No, she’s pretty; she’s just not as beautiful as Lynda Carter was in her prime.
But Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman was much more feminine than feminist. She looked like she never touched a dumbbell. And how many times did some bad guy get the drop on her with chloroform?Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy, @SteveRogers42
The stupidities you point out are another piece of evidence demonstrating John Leo’s assessment that reporters write stories by pulling out a template and filling in the blanks. The templates have all manner of contentious (and often foolish) assumptions about the society in which the reporter lives.
It would have taken zero effort to troll around a bit to demonstrate both statements are nonsense. Here’s a point of departure:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_actors
One of the reporters you make reference to used to write for Get Religion. You’d think an evangelical reporter might be somewhat resistant to this sort of thing. (And maybe she was and a Democratic Party hack of an editor butchered her work).
Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Johanus de Morgateroyde, @Lot, @Patrick Harris, @syonredux, @Art Deco, @biz, @Anonym, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @oddsbodkins, @Malcolm X-Lax, @MSP, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Danindc, @AnotherDad
Whatever.
The good critical notices are largely motivated by the desire to be PC. The Great and the Good want to say nice things about a female led-and-directed superhero film. I saw it yesterday ( Didn’t pay; I theatre-hopped after watching Alien: Covenant ), and it’s just OK. It’s certainly nowhere near as enjoyable as The Dark Knight, Iron Man, or Captain America:The Winter Soldier.
That's what I thought, à la Ghostbusters, which was mostly embarrassingly dumb, though it had a lot of talent: onto the outrageous fantasy of the original, you tack on the improbability of misfit women scientists and engineers acting like tough first responders, assisted by a wimpy and stupid but cute Thor -- well, I gave it points for chutzpah anyway!
So I expected Wonder Woman to be bad, for PC reasons and due to superhero fatigue: Doctor Strange ok, but Deadpool and that other "bad superheroes" film terrible in my book. So I was surprised to find Wonder Woman very, very enjoyable. Gal Gadot is luminous and works well with Chris Pine. Dialogue is sometimes very funny, action scenes are pretty cool (despite implausibility of those amazons as tough warriors at the start). And the message is not as dumb and tedious and childish as other superhero films: war is terrible, humans suck, grand principles fail, but humans are also capable of love and heroism and worth saving. And yes you can be a hot woman and still stand up for yourself and be admired not just for your hotness. Gal Gadot's military and Israeli background may have helped make the movie more realistic: who you gonna believe about war: Gal Gadot or Scarlett Johansson?Replies: @syonredux, @Bob Smith of Suburbia
Many people on the left used to hate the old Hercules TV show with Kevin Sorbo because they considered it "whitewashed." It always amused me greatly, like they were trying to peal off Greeks into some anti-Western coalition. Of course, they were silent about the Rock playing him.Replies: @syonredux
Hey, everybody knows that Polynesians were thick on the ground in Ancient Greece…
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/I really don't know what more evidence one needs to show that jews are not white, if they don't see themselves as white, then how can one not accept this ? In the case of Gal Gadot, she certainly has Arabic features.Replies: @syonredux, @Lot, @Stealth, @International Jew, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Anon7, @Chris Mallory, @Jay Fink, @Right wing Jew, @Marcus, @Robert Dunn
I am pretty white looking, but happy to troll libtards by calling myself a “people of color.”
Excellent!
Boy the Times of Israel has some very low standards for its bloggers. There is absolutely no evidence that the proto-Ashkenazi migration to Italy and Gaul was as slaves. Perhaps the Romans did grab some slaves from the ranks of Jewish revolters, but more likely they just left because 100BC-300AD Israel was relatively poor and crowded compared to Europe and North Africa.
Some were obviously faking their conversion, so the “suspicion” was for good reason. Nonetheless, the converted Jews heavily intermarried with the Spanish gentry and lower nobility, so they were hardly “second class” citizens.
The only “notable” person on the list is Kant, who was not an ethnographer and never traveled more than a few miles from his birthplace. As Steve notes, both the laws of the USA and Europe, and the actual behavior of Europeans, showed Ashkenazi and Euro-Sephardic Jews were already considered white Europeans. Can we imagine the UK electing a black or Asian PM in 1868 and 1874? Or someone married to a black or asian in 1894?
Also the converso intermarriage with royalty wasn't as commonplace and ubiquitous as is commonly believed. There was, as well, a big difference between conversos in 1391 and convwrsos in 1492 and 1496.
To Steve's point, back when Al Franken first ran against Norm Coleman for the Senate seat representing Minnesota, which had been made famous by the late lamented Paul Wellstone, a Jewish blog (which no longer exists) plaintively wondered whether those dumb flyover rednecks in Saskatcheconsin or whatever it's called could bring themselves to Elect whom God had Chosen. Some impolite wag asked how the blogger could type such a thing given that all of the people involved, elected, defeated, or assassinated, were obviously Jewish. A few hours last that blog post was removed without explanation. But Jews reflexively take for granted that they are universally and irrationally hated, no matter how many times they are elected.
"Oh sure, I see how it is -- all of you want me to move to DC!"
Second point, the creepy one: Is the anorexic mousy Arabish Gadot a refutation to my creepy Law that "phenotypically Jewish girls are gorgeous, but nobody hates them worse than Hollywood or Israeli public relations?" Gadot has something of a history in Israeli public relations, and her perfectly balanced pleasant-mousiness is definitely a plus in attracting, or not offending, female audiences: would these same "body positive" audiences embrace a modern day young Lynda Carter? Maybe this is a refutation of the Law, but it does not mean that we have the true total freedom of casting, which we will possibly see in our lifetimes once Hollywood finally dies.Replies: @Anonymous, @Jack D, @Karl
But Jews reflexively take for granted that they are universally and irrationally hated, no matter how many times they are elected.
That is a symptom of a guilty conscience.
It would have taken zero effort to troll around a bit to demonstrate both statements are nonsense. Here's a point of departure:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_actors
One of the reporters you make reference to used to write for Get Religion. You'd think an evangelical reporter might be somewhat resistant to this sort of thing. (And maybe she was and a Democratic Party hack of an editor butchered her work).Replies: @Opinionator
You appear to assume that the motivation is to spread truth.
Some of the critical pieces on the film are a tad….revealing….
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/herocomplex/la-et-hc-wonder-woman-crying-20170605-htmlstory.html
This link is actually more interesting than the Jewish "we're not 'white' we're the oppressed" and Jewish women whining about "standards of beauty". Both well trod ground.
The interesting thing to me was this woman saying she was "in tears" during some of the Wonder Woman fight scenes. It was cathartic for her--apparently she'd been waiting all her life to see woman warriors, competently slaying on the battlefield. And that her reaction was common--the director had heard it many times before and was unsurprised.
This struck me as a bit weird because the "butt kicking babes" are seriously a trope. They seem to show up everywhere now days. And not just in zones of complete suspension of disbelief, but in places that are at least superficially are supposed to be normal TV/movie "reality". For me many times it's just so ridiculous it jerks me out of routine TV/movie suspension of disbelief
and wrecks the show. (Wonder Woman is better because she is at least a super-hero with super-powers, not some actual normal human 120 lb. woman dispatching 200 lb. tough guys.)
I think American (and European) life has become so feminized, and so devoid of not just violence, but actual hard heavy physical labor that a lot of women are just completely ignorant of brute physical reality. A lot of women seem truly ignorant of how utterly weak and fragile they are compared to even average men. I'm pretty much dead on average American guy--height, size (a bit more upper body per my size, a bit less leg)--and now even as a geezer I almost never see any woman I couldn't quickly subdue. (Ok, now I see some really fat ones that probably geezer me couldn't move after knocking them out.) Young guys who are actually tough and strong? There are no women who would even be in a "fight" with them, they'd just be on the floor unconscious. But apparently a lot of women don't realize the extreme extent of sexual dimorphism on strength. I guess their boyfriends/husbands have never handled them physically--even just to toss 'em over their shoulder and carry 'em off to bed?
And what's weird to me is this intense desire to see this female warrior--a complete fantasy of a competent ass-kicking female warrior. I get the interest in what the other sex can do. When AnotherMom was pregnant--belly bulging out incredibly--I had
a) a sense of pride in my manhood, that i'd knocked her up and my baby was growing inside her
but even more profoundly
b) a sense of wonder at life, at her feminine power, to receive my joy juice, combine with it, and bake it into a beautiful baby inside her.
But what I didn't feel was jealously. That I was cheated as a guy because I couldn't grow a baby myself. Or later, that she had a more intense bond with the kids through pregnancy and nursing. I was grateful--to God, to life, to her--to be a dad, did my dad thing, appreciated it, loved it.
These women of the West today are nuts. They downplay, dismiss and many forego the one thing they can do not just "much better" than men, but that men can't do at all. And pine for these bizarre fantasies where they are supreme at doing things that men are so thoroughly superior at that women aren't even in the same universe. It's insanity. And it's part of what's killing the West.Replies: @SteveRogers42, @PiltdownMan
Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Johanus de Morgateroyde, @Lot, @Patrick Harris, @syonredux, @Art Deco, @biz, @Anonym, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @oddsbodkins, @Malcolm X-Lax, @MSP, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Danindc, @AnotherDad
Israel derangement is now turning people gay, apparently.
Gal Gadot is freaking hot. Have you seen her body? And that’s after kids.
Kobach running for Kansas governor! YES!!!!
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article155063589.html
Brownback has been so bad, he’s is going to have an easy comparison. Next stop, 1600 Penn Ave, January 2021.
Seems to be a fair amount of commentary on the left where they are disappointed Wonder Woman is conventionally attractive and perhaps the actress selected should have been some kind of visibly ethnic/gay/transgender…SJWs are just such miserably people they can’t just sit back and enjoy a popcorn movie, they have to screech about how it doesn’t put outliers in leading roles just to show they are as good/strong/smart as everyone else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZNJgXcqSAgReplies: @guest
The UK elected one or two Parsis to Parliament in the 1890s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampson_Eardley,_1st_Baron_Eardley
Economist David Ricardo's son with his Quaker wife was another early half-Jew to serve in Parliament.
In 1802 this guy became the first full-blooded Jew to serve in Parliament
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manasseh_Masseh_Lopes
He had purchased land that included a rotten borough and thus two MPs, so he essentially elected himself, and later his nephew.
The first practicing Jew was elected in 1847, from the first-among-equals City of London district:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_de_RothschildReplies: @syonredux
Not quite the same thing as having one serve as PM…..
When she asks “who was on screen”, she really means “who was on screen who was Jewish AND looked like me”. Feminists are perpetually butt-hurt about the failure of men to go gaga over them regardless of how they look. Instead, guys are supposed to get the hots for them because of their highly evolved consciousness.
https://twitter.com/bustle/status/740340157665021952Replies: @Autochthon
Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Johanus de Morgateroyde, @Lot, @Patrick Harris, @syonredux, @Art Deco, @biz, @Anonym, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @oddsbodkins, @Malcolm X-Lax, @MSP, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Danindc, @AnotherDad
Facially she is pretty (there are prettier IMO – I would not put her in a top x list that anyone would have the patience to read) but her body is fairly straight up and down. It doesn’t do much for me.
And note the special treatment that the native Jews received in French Algeria:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Algeria#French_Algeria
*Square jaw, protruding forehead, bump in nose, high flat cheekbones, big mouth, noticeable lack of daintiness. And that's just the face.Replies: @Opinionator, @AnotherGuessModel, @Truth, @TWS, @Hippopotamusdrome
Bumps on noses are hardly foisted on us as a beauty ideal, since 99% of female entertainers and models (even ones that would surprise you) whittle down their nose bridges. Her features are definitely strong, but also refined, which is another classic feminine ideal alongside dainty prettiness.
http://www.hypable.com/gal-gadot-signs-three-picture-deal-to-play-wonder-woman/
Those of you who insist that mousegirl is downright pretty and not merely nonthreateningly na’im: do you think it would have killed her to eat a little chicken soup with rice, and maybe pick up a set of weights once or twice, before performing as an Amazon?
Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Johanus de Morgateroyde, @Lot, @Patrick Harris, @syonredux, @Art Deco, @biz, @Anonym, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @oddsbodkins, @Malcolm X-Lax, @MSP, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Danindc, @AnotherDad
Hmmm. She’s rather fine looking for an Amazon warrior. Don’t let the fact that she’s Israeli distort your perception of aesthetics. 🙂
(The favorite Jewfu of /pol/ for some time has been the b-list celebrity and ethnic, of all things, Uzbek, Milana Vayntrub. Take a look at her in any position or costume and then tell me about this Gadot person, and then blame it all on Uzbek nationalism.)Replies: @Difference Maker, @guest, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Autochthon
Emily Shire’s actually a bit better looking than I would have guessed. She’s no Lauren Bacall or Hedy Lamarr, though.
One thing that really stood out to me regarding Wonder Woman is just how derivative it is. It’s Captain America: The First Avenger mixed with the fish-out-of-water stuff from Thor. I suppose that they thought that setting the action in WWI (as opposed to WWII) would keep people from noticing….
None of these are good movies but Thor was more fun as it has a more charismatic lead who can approximate being an actor in a scene (Gadot couldn't even pull off the right mugging expressions) as well as a wonderfully hammy Asgardian pseudo-shakespeare cast&story. It is also half an hour shorter than Wonder Woman.
Captain American: The First Avenger can get away with a lot because, again, Chris Evans has great screen presence and it was well paced and snappy. It also helps that WWII is so well-trodden and mythologized that you can almost ignore how superficial they treat the period or the narrative itself.
In contrast, Wonder Woman is wounded by how cartoonishly it treats WWI and its story- especially as the plot revolves around the character struggling to sympathize with humans in a war-torn world. All I took away from it was Diana switched capriciously between pitying and being amused by humans and their miseries of war.
There are a multitude of problems with this film-- including the poor directing -- and it is perplexing what so many people see in this movie.Replies: @syonredux
Remember when Comic Book Man was a joke everyone sneered at? Now this childish folderol is being held up (by simpletons mostly, but still) as having deep sociological and historical import and defining the state of our world. Omega basement boys' power fantasies (and in the case of WW, her creator's BDSM fantasies) are being elevated to the level of great literature/art and trenchant political analysis.
No wonder that test showed college kids can't think critically. Look what they have to work with!
It saddens me that comics book adaptations are the preeminent products of our civilization, rather than space travel.
The Israeli girl is pretty nice looking tbh. Not a knockout but a healthy-looking broad. I think she did some kind of military service.
Do the Israelis fetishize their military women? U.S. servicewomen look like dogs generally. Maybe it is because the Israelis have mandatory service, I believe, so even the good looking girls put on the uniform. Whereas over here the US servicewomen pool is rather….. Sapphic. Or do the Israeli men just go in for the whole lady-in-uniform BDSM vibe, a lá Ilsa SheWolf of the SS? How does this square with some people’s claims that the Jews aren’t attracted to their own women?
Prior to this, Gadot was famously in a pin-up campaign organized by the Israeli government, that was exposed as favoring Israeli women who were already established as professional models and who had not served in the military. Following that and with the benefit of Instagram, there are regular astroturf propaganda campaigns with photos of actual serving IDF chicks, often in auhentic-looking uniforms or photographed "spontaneously." They consistently look much better than the professional models.
There's a "Norwegian" guy that posted the same set every night at /pol/ for about three months.
Israeli military amazons have been dramatically talked-up and exaggerated in more recent movies, notably a Predator sequel that featuring an "Israeli jungle warfare specialist" (let that sink in), and the foundational text here is an old eighties flick titled "This Is The Army, Girls," which has a wrestling-training scene and a CFMN scene.
And of course Israelis deny this in the US press but they have always been intensely aware that their main enemy is literally "afraid of girls." There are stories about female IDF soldiers publicly humiliating old Arab men without provocation, basically for the amusement of their male comrades (or their own).Replies: @Mikey Darmody
And that happened to be Gal Gadot's role during her military service (according to Wikipedia).Replies: @Mikey Darmody
Anyhow, I, and my foreign colleagues who actually were in uniform, found the Israeli soldier girls breathtaking. It almost looked like they were ALL literally stunning, which obviously could not have been the case.
I never quite analyzed it but I guess it has to do with the fact that they're all physically fit and that being in the army doesn't detract from their femininity because ALL girls are in the army, so their self confidence doesn't effect their natural submissveness to men.
Or something like that.
As for American women in the army. Yes, most look like dogs but not all.
I ----
Oh no, I was about to mention a girl I knew going into the marines when I worked near 29 palms but I looked her name up and---- either it's not her (it's been a decade) of maybe women don't improve with age.
Okay!
Next topic. I can guess at one element in play and can speak more personally to another.
My guess is that back in the immigrant days shiksas who could afford the lifestyle and makeup to look pretty looked better than Jewish washerwomen and also promised a better life, obviously enhancing their prettiness.
The same is true in the chassidic world today although their fantasy is for a modern orthodox or non orthodox jewish woman, for the same reason.
One I can speak to more personally is that, on average, Jewish women can be more of an emotional handful than non-jewish women. I don't know how much of this is cultural and how much is genetic, but American Jewish women, JAPs, can be difficult. At least for Jews.
As for general attractiveness, I can only speak for myself. I find good-looking Jewish girls far far cuter than good-looking non Jewish girls.
Obviously this only relates to the respective good looking ones in each category, but I have no interest in "hot" girls as conpared with "cute" ones.
The former look like manly sluts to me and the latter like smiley cuddly feminine beauties.
The whole blond and tall thing is probably for the sort of men who take pride in their penis size (a concept I first heard of about ten years ago and sincerely thought it was a female-created joke until really recently) and who enjoy waking up to creatures with a square jaw and cold eyes while the latter is for men who enjoy being funny and playing around and want to wake up to a light brown haired girl-looking-girl with curves and with less than 4 feet of washboard abs between their upper curves and lower ones.
The ideal of course is a Non-Jap with these physical attributes.
Thankfully in America they are fairly common, although the grotesque bleached blonde thing self-selects a number from circulation.Replies: @Mikey Darmody, @Autochthon
The debate “Are Jews white?”
Shouldn’t the debate be are Jews Hellenic? Gadot appears to be Semitic, why is she playing a Hellene on screen?
As almost everything human males consider "attractive" is some kind of signal of fertility or fecundity, one suspects that she radiates "attractiveness" in the form of "health" and "symmetric features" to such a high degree that she reduces most men she meets to fidgeting and babbling in her presence.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Marty, @San Fernando Curt, @SteveRogers42
“what she does look like is extraordinarily healthy”
Health is necessary but insufficient. Good-looking men are healthy, too, but they aren’t pretty. (Unless they’re pretty boys, but that just means they’re prettier than normal for a male.)
“As almost everything human males consider ‘attractive’ is some kind of sign of fertility or fecundity, one suspects that she radiates ‘attractiveness’ in the form of ‘health’ and ‘symmetric features’”
You pick unisex qualities, which could be present in both males and females. But humans, as you may have forgotten, are sexually dimorphic. Normal, heterosexual males aren’t attracted to Abstract Fertility. They’re attracted to secondary sexual characteristics developed by women during puberty. They like their women to be feminine.
Masculine-looking women and prepubescent females are not attractive to the them no matter how clear is their skin, nor how trim they are. We weren’t talking about attraction, anyway, but about prettiness. It’s even less true that unfeminine women can be pretty. Because prettiness implies femininity.
Nationality is not an issue. Trust me. Verify it in the archives if you do not trust me (look for the term “Jewfu”). There are people in this world who spend an inordinate amount of time looking at pictures of Jewish and Israeli women and they still do not call Gadot beautiful. Rachel Weisz (nominally not Israeli yet but she serves here for calibration) is gorgeous, Nata-sama Herschlag is beautiful, Moran Atias is beautiful, Shlomit Reger is very pretty. Gadot is never at the top of that ordering, least of all given exclusively Israeli competition.
(The favorite Jewfu of /pol/ for some time has been the b-list celebrity and ethnic, of all things, Uzbek, Milana Vayntrub. Take a look at her in any position or costume and then tell me about this Gadot person, and then blame it all on Uzbek nationalism.)
Gal Gadot looks a bit like Ms. Portman; no doubt that was also a consideration. To extend the fantasy of some nerd's crush
To repeat, Gadot is fine looking for a comic book Amazon warrior. Commenters (not you) complaining that she’s not suitably feminine perhaps don’t understand she was cast as the lead in a conventional superhero action movie. Casting a petite bombshell like Hayden Panettiere (for example) wouldn’t make any sense.
I don’t get any of this b*llsh*t.
Wasn’t Wonder Woman originally meant to be from ancient Greece, possibly from Lesbos.
That’s why she was called Diana as I remember.
I still don’t know why she dresses herself in a flag of the US in a peculiar cheerleader fashion.
And where do gender politics come in?
I think she was just in a straight relationship with Superman, none of them was trans or anything. It’s Superman and Wonder Woman, not Supertrans and Wonder Gayman.
Hercules’ great-grandmother Andromeda, and in some versions of his lore, at least one other great-grandparent were Ethiopian. So The Rock’s ethnically ambiguous looks fit what Hercules might have been imagined to look like, more than Kevin Sorbo, Kellan Lutz, or the blonde Disney version. Of course, the left would sieze on the casting of any distinctly European looks to make accusations of whitewashing, even unawares (and many are) of this tidbit about Hercules’ family tree.
As for Hercules' great-grandmother being the Ethiopian princess Andromeda, that doesn't seem to have influenced how the Greeks and the Romans depicted him:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heracles#/media/File:Hercules_Farnese_3637104088_9c95d7fe3c_b.jpg
Looks quite European to me.....Replies: @Romanian
Here’s an article on the “Jewish essence of Wonder Woman”:
Gal Gadot and the Jewish essence of Wonder Woman
http://jewishjournal.com/hollywood/film/219779/gal-gadot-jewish-essence-wonder-woman/
Now I know that a lot of Jews have a strong investment in the idea that comic book superheroes are a specifically Jewish thing. Michael Chabon, for example, devoted his considerable literary talents to the idea that the golem somehow gave rise to the genre*, but Wonder Woman is a bad place to go looking for the some kind of Jewish essence. Her creator, William Moulton Marston , was non-Jewish. He was also something of a weirdo:
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/10/wonder-womans-feminism/381579/
*A truly ludicrous notion. the roots of the superhero lie in things like Philip Wylie’s Gladiator (the true source for Superman; forget all that crap about Moses), Sherlock Holmes, Tarzan, John Carter, and The Shadow, not in Shtetl folktales.
Anti-semitism may be able to turn people gay, but high fashion definitely tricks people into accepting gay aesthetics. Gadot is not as bad as some, but she’s a definite model-type. Don’t be tricked.
The Israeli girl is pretty nice looking tbh. Not a knockout but a healthy-looking broad. I think she did some kind of military service.
Do the Israelis fetishize their military women? U.S. servicewomen look like dogs generally. Maybe it is because the Israelis have mandatory service, I believe, so even the good looking girls put on the uniform. Whereas over here the US servicewomen pool is rather..... Sapphic. Or do the Israeli men just go in for the whole lady-in-uniform BDSM vibe, a lá Ilsa SheWolf of the SS? How does this square with some people's claims that the Jews aren't attracted to their own women?Replies: @J.Ross, @J.Ross, @International Jew, @Moshe, @englishmike
>do Israelis fetishize their military women
Prior to this, Gadot was famously in a pin-up campaign organized by the Israeli government, that was exposed as favoring Israeli women who were already established as professional models and who had not served in the military. Following that and with the benefit of Instagram, there are regular astroturf propaganda campaigns with photos of actual serving IDF chicks, often in auhentic-looking uniforms or photographed “spontaneously.” They consistently look much better than the professional models.
There’s a “Norwegian” guy that posted the same set every night at /pol/ for about three months.
Israeli military amazons have been dramatically talked-up and exaggerated in more recent movies, notably a Predator sequel that featuring an “Israeli jungle warfare specialist” (let that sink in), and the foundational text here is an old eighties flick titled “This Is The Army, Girls,” which has a wrestling-training scene and a CFMN scene.
And of course Israelis deny this in the US press but they have always been intensely aware that their main enemy is literally “afraid of girls.” There are stories about female IDF soldiers publicly humiliating old Arab men without provocation, basically for the amusement of their male comrades (or their own).
This talk of lady soldiers hearkens back to the Nietzsche thread. He recognized how cruel women can be. Even crueler than men, at least in a moral sense. A great play that is proto-Nietzschean and aware of the feminine nature of cruelty and madness is the Bacchae by Euripides:
“They did attack our herds: you could have seen a woman pull a calf to pieces as it bellowed alive in her bare hands!”Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
The first half-Jewish MP was this guy, elected in 1770
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampson_Eardley,_1st_Baron_Eardley
Economist David Ricardo’s son with his Quaker wife was another early half-Jew to serve in Parliament.
In 1802 this guy became the first full-blooded Jew to serve in Parliament
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manasseh_Masseh_Lopes
He had purchased land that included a rotten borough and thus two MPs, so he essentially elected himself, and later his nephew.
The first practicing Jew was elected in 1847, from the first-among-equals City of London district:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_de_Rothschild
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampson_Eardley,_1st_Baron_Eardley
Economist David Ricardo's son with his Quaker wife was another early half-Jew to serve in Parliament.
In 1802 this guy became the first full-blooded Jew to serve in Parliament
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manasseh_Masseh_Lopes
He had purchased land that included a rotten borough and thus two MPs, so he essentially elected himself, and later his nephew.
The first practicing Jew was elected in 1847, from the first-among-equals City of London district:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_de_RothschildReplies: @syonredux
Francis Salvador was elected to public office in South Carolina in 1774:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Salvador
Dunno about the Rock looking “ethnically ambiguous.” To my eyes, he looks quite Polynesian…
As for Hercules’ great-grandmother being the Ethiopian princess Andromeda, that doesn’t seem to have influenced how the Greeks and the Romans depicted him:
Looks quite European to me…..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aethiopians
People generally forget that, before the outward expansion of the Europeans throughout the world, there was also a massive contraction, in a few phases. Think of the Arabs overrunning the Middle East and Christian North Africa and, later, the Turkic conquest of Anatolia.
Or the displacement of many tribes, including the classical Bulgarians, from Central Asia, under pressure from Asiatic migratory peoples. Or their destruction.
These are paradigm changes that ripple onwards in time. The final cleansing of the Christian (and the most European) elements of Turkey and the Middle East took place in the early 20th century and is now undergoing a mopping up operation. Consider Lebanon's demographic transformation based on the inflow of outsiders and, now, the fertility differentials.
So, there were once White (ish?) Africans in Ethiopia and now the have been subsumed by another race or simply lost their former countenance because of selection. What will Turkey look like in a few hundred years? Or Eastern Europe, given the gypsy element? Or Western Europe.Replies: @syonredux
The Israeli girl is pretty nice looking tbh. Not a knockout but a healthy-looking broad. I think she did some kind of military service.
Do the Israelis fetishize their military women? U.S. servicewomen look like dogs generally. Maybe it is because the Israelis have mandatory service, I believe, so even the good looking girls put on the uniform. Whereas over here the US servicewomen pool is rather..... Sapphic. Or do the Israeli men just go in for the whole lady-in-uniform BDSM vibe, a lá Ilsa SheWolf of the SS? How does this square with some people's claims that the Jews aren't attracted to their own women?Replies: @J.Ross, @J.Ross, @International Jew, @Moshe, @englishmike
re Ilsa, sex advice columnist Dan Savage responded to a morality issue question about “plantation play,” by quoting a famous Native American (possibly Sherman Alexie) on the popularity among red men of the idea of cowgirls tying up braves. Important note: this is fantasy, not law or public policy. It doesn’t really mean anything. And it is very consistent across the board (view my statement upthread about /pol/ setting everything else aside to trade pictures of Jewfus like they were baseball cards).
http://www.hypable.com/gal-gadot-signs-three-picture-deal-to-play-wonder-woman/Replies: @guest
“Bumps on noses are hardly foisted on us as a beauty ideal”
No, they don’t get that specific. What’s foisted on us is the general feel. The public isn’t going to stop associating full, perky breasts with feminine beauty, for instance. But they will foist upon us flat-chested women as beautiful. Which isn’t to say flat-chested women aren’t beautiful, but the trend is toward separating sexual attraction (or heterosexual attraction) from beauty standards. Eventually, large breasts will be automatically associated with low class, I predict.
The nose bump is not exactly the thing in high fashion, though lots of them have one. I’ve been trying to figure it out, and I think it’s a result of their preference for noses that stand out combined with the extreme indentation they want where the nose and forehead come together. That is productive of very unfeminine curvature in models’ noses.
We are bullied into thinking fashion models are beautiful, and Gadot was a fashion model. It works that way. Whether she has this specific feature or that, and whether they want to push acceptance of this feature or that among the general public wasn’t my point.
Meanwhile, they costume her up, pose her, and use special effects to make her look more feminine and therefore more acceptable to the masses. Why they can’t just cast a Lynda Carter is beyond me, except snarky critics would probably be calling her fat.
“99% of female entertainers and models whittle down their nose bridges”
I don’t know if that’s true of models, but even if it were, it’s akin to boob jobs. Lots of models get those, because they want to be lingerie models or because they know people just plain like big breasts. But at the same time it’s painfully obvious that feature is not promoted by the dominant culture. Not like it used to be, anyway.
(The favorite Jewfu of /pol/ for some time has been the b-list celebrity and ethnic, of all things, Uzbek, Milana Vayntrub. Take a look at her in any position or costume and then tell me about this Gadot person, and then blame it all on Uzbek nationalism.)Replies: @Difference Maker, @guest, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Autochthon
Aye, too much white knighting goes on here
Gal Gadot looks a bit like Ms. Portman; no doubt that was also a consideration. To extend the fantasy of some nerd’s crush
https://twitter.com/RealLyndaCarter/status/834780320708837377Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Rifleman, @Neoconned, @Father O'Hara, @William Badwhite, @Robert Dunn
She was spectacularly beautiful.
But one of the conceits of her ’70s Wonder Woman was that she was supposed to be plain-looking as an Army secretary.
Shouldn't the debate be are Jews Hellenic? Gadot appears to be Semitic, why is she playing a Hellene on screen?Replies: @guest
Amazons come from Greek mythology, but that doesn’t necessarily make them Greek. Herodotus made them out to be Turkish, as I recall, and others put them in North Africa.
These are non-Greek ancient Eastern Europeans whose ruling class women sometimes took up arms (this is thoroughly evidenced but doesn't get you a viable matriarchal society).
Or
This is a very primitive society, where social gender roles are not well defined: not women dominating men but women dominating overgrown boys. This would explain why these societies do not survive beyond meeting societies of "real men." This is somewhat borne out by very primitive societies observable today (none of which look anything like Amazons).
By the way, "Amazon" is the single worst term for warrior women. In Greek mythology they exist to be laughed at -- when Bellerophon defeats you, you're doing something wrong.Replies: @AnotherGuessModel, @Chrisnonymous
The purest descendants of the Scythians today are the Ossetians of the northern Caucasus (e.g. Beslan, where their children were massacred at school by Chechen terrorists). Nearly a third of Ossetians still follow their ancient pagan religion, Uatsdin. Their closest cousins are the Alans (Alani in the Roman chronicles, a form of the word "Aryan", also the origin of the name "Alan"), who settled mostly in Armorica (Brittany, France) and the Jasz, who have lived in Hungary since they arrived with the Mongol invasion.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/inside-skirt-club-hollywood-new-yorks-high-glamour-sex-party-women-1010607
It takes a major effort to make me NOT want to see a Gal Gadot movie, not even on Netflix, but the liberal feminoids with their relentless anti-male hype and women only exclusive theater showings have accomplished exactly that. Clearly I am not only not the target audience for this movie but its producers specifically don’t want me as part of the audience. So I’ll pass. Sorry, Gal.
There is also a solicitation-thread for Rachel Weisz which always re-uses the same photo: it only appears one at a time, but it is reposted three or four times a day. Contributing new content and giving others space to do so is both rule and culture, for 4chan and the internet. If our militancy fails, the internet is going to be nothing but a lot of artificially intelligent TV commercials screaming at each other.
If you think the “where are the Jews onscreen?” take is dumb, consider that this Wonder Woman movie already spawned a debate about whether Wonder Woman should shave her underarms.
"Don't shave your armpits", "Don't shame fat girls", " Etc.
Have *you* seen her body? Straight up and down, no T or A to speak of. Not as bad as it could be, because she has some curvature of the hips and her shoulders don’t make her look like a linebacker.
I don’t feel good criticizing like this, but so long as people are holding her up as hot, something must be said. Beauty standards are sacred.
By the way, I’d be happy if she were more masculine, given that she’s playing an Amazon. She’s too slight for the role. But I guess computers fix that.
Please explain.
Nor really hot unless you're into skinny, frail fashion models.
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As almost everything human males consider "attractive" is some kind of signal of fertility or fecundity, one suspects that she radiates "attractiveness" in the form of "health" and "symmetric features" to such a high degree that she reduces most men she meets to fidgeting and babbling in her presence.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Marty, @San Fernando Curt, @SteveRogers42
She reminds me a bit of Michelle Jenneke but prettier. Jenneke is cute too but maybe a bit too boyish for most tastes!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bx0bi1CjGBY
Who is? Circa 1975 Lynda Carter is about as a hot as it gets.
But Lynda Carter’s Wonder Woman was much more feminine than feminist. She looked like she never touched a dumbbell. And how many times did some bad guy get the drop on her with chloroform?
http://cityandshorebucket.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/amandasept2015a.jpgReplies: @Steve Sailer, @syonredux
(The favorite Jewfu of /pol/ for some time has been the b-list celebrity and ethnic, of all things, Uzbek, Milana Vayntrub. Take a look at her in any position or costume and then tell me about this Gadot person, and then blame it all on Uzbek nationalism.)Replies: @Difference Maker, @guest, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Autochthon
Weisz is pretty despite having some noticeably unfemimine features. (Her nose and brow, specifically.) She’s interesting-looking, no offense, which I guess has allowed her to play character roles instead of just leading ladies or sex pots.
“I dunno … Hedy Lamarr, Lauren Bacall?”
Elizabeth Taylor? Winona Rider, Natalie Portman? Or Jennifer Aniston, Jessica Parker, Mila Kunis and many others I have no idea of? A lot of TV series would be my guess, plus the characters’ names: Hannah, Zach, Zeke, Josh…
http://forward.com/culture/136447/a-jew-by-choice-elizabeth-taylor-1932-2011/Replies: @Opinionator
Liz and MM converted, although the latter's conversion was a sort of hoax foisted on her by Arthur Miller who found "a very humanistic rabbi" to instruct her. Somewhere between Lucy's being taught goofy golf and Sinatra's bogus investiture in the Knights of Malta.
Nothing in Jennifer Aniston's Wikipedia page indicates any connection to Judaism or Jewish descent:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Aniston
I would be very surprised if Emirates Airlines would hire a Jewish spokeswoman, besides.
For the past month at /tv/ (Television And Film), the 4chan board I fled to after /pol/ was completely taken over by David Brock’s paid spam disruption campaign (imagine every single iSteve commenter replying to every issue by merely calling Steve dumb), there have been twelve or more simultaneous “Wonder Woman” threads at any time. Twelve threads varying a rotating handful of familiar pictures and phrases. For reasons of space and fairness, there’s only supposed to be one thread per topic. I hear it was worse for “Get Out.”
There is also a solicitation-thread for Rachel Weisz which always re-uses the same photo: it only appears one at a time, but it is reposted three or four times a day. Contributing new content and giving others space to do so is both rule and culture, for 4chan and the internet. If our militancy fails, the internet is going to be nothing but a lot of artificially intelligent TV commercials screaming at each other.
Most Irish people like whites and like being white. Unlike the Jews, the Irish are not continuously scheming to bring about the downfall of white nations.
My daddy always said, "Never sleep with anyone crazier than you are". I would still be a virgin had I followed Dad's advice.Replies: @Brutusale, @Moshe
Google Images has a panoply of shots where Ms. Shire ranges from “It’s late and I’m drunk” to “Not enough scotch has been distilled”.
William Blake Tyrrell has an excellent short book that lays out convincingly that the Athenian ruling class used them as a politically convenient and nakedly xenophobic metaphor for Persians. Apparently new discoveries emerged as soon as I lost interest in the topic, but when I followed it, there were two explanations:
These are non-Greek ancient Eastern Europeans whose ruling class women sometimes took up arms (this is thoroughly evidenced but doesn’t get you a viable matriarchal society).
Or
This is a very primitive society, where social gender roles are not well defined: not women dominating men but women dominating overgrown boys. This would explain why these societies do not survive beyond meeting societies of “real men.” This is somewhat borne out by very primitive societies observable today (none of which look anything like Amazons).
By the way, “Amazon” is the single worst term for warrior women. In Greek mythology they exist to be laughed at — when Bellerophon defeats you, you’re doing something wrong.
In those days Scythian actually meant Scythian i.e. blond haired white skinned
Why do you find it difficult to believe that many heterosexual men are not attracted to Gal Gadot?
I think we can all agree that Gal Gadot is a much better looking woman than Caitlyn Jenner…
But now that his TV show has bombed and even the freakish Kardashian clan is washing its hands of him, I guess you can get away with kicking him like that.
*Square jaw, protruding forehead, bump in nose, high flat cheekbones, big mouth, noticeable lack of daintiness. And that's just the face.Replies: @Opinionator, @AnotherGuessModel, @Truth, @TWS, @Hippopotamusdrome
OK, you got %90 of the puzzle, now bring it home, Baby!
Gal Gadot and the Jewish essence of Wonder Woman
http://jewishjournal.com/hollywood/film/219779/gal-gadot-jewish-essence-wonder-woman/
Now I know that a lot of Jews have a strong investment in the idea that comic book superheroes are a specifically Jewish thing. Michael Chabon, for example, devoted his considerable literary talents to the idea that the golem somehow gave rise to the genre*, but Wonder Woman is a bad place to go looking for the some kind of Jewish essence. Her creator, William Moulton Marston , was non-Jewish. He was also something of a weirdo: https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/10/wonder-womans-feminism/381579/
*A truly ludicrous notion. the roots of the superhero lie in things like Philip Wylie's Gladiator (the true source for Superman; forget all that crap about Moses), Sherlock Holmes, Tarzan, John Carter, and The Shadow, not in Shtetl folktales.Replies: @advancedatheist
“the roots of the superhero lie in things like Philip Wylie’s Gladiator (the true source for Superman; forget all that crap about Moses), Sherlock Holmes, Tarzan, John Carter, and The Shadow, not in Shtetl folktales.”
Not to mention Doc Savage, who had a hideaway in the far North called the Fortress of Solitude, well before Superman’s.
BTW, I tried to read a Doc Savage story, “The Polar Treasure.” Really bad writing, and I can see why it has resisted efforts to revive the franchise. It violated principles of good story-telling by showing Savage the master of every situation, where he could pull arbitrary abilities out of thin air to solve every problem, including knowing how to speak obscure Eskimo dialects.
Why do you find it so difficult to believe that many men do not find her attractive?
As almost everything human males consider "attractive" is some kind of signal of fertility or fecundity, one suspects that she radiates "attractiveness" in the form of "health" and "symmetric features" to such a high degree that she reduces most men she meets to fidgeting and babbling in her presence.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Marty, @San Fernando Curt, @SteveRogers42
Gadot was born in 1985, the same year in which the sexiest Jewish woman in screen history took her star turn: Rosanna Arquette in Eight Million Ways to Die.
That would be Jennifer Connelly, if half-Jewish counts.Replies: @Njguy73, @fish
…%95…
%99!!!!!!
Since we’re talking about half-Jews and Lynda Carter:
https://www.google.com/#q=lynda+carter+daughter
Read it and weep.
Welcome to iSteve, if this basic truism of sociobiology excites you, you're in for Mr. Toad's Wild Ride if you stick around.
Maybe one of the leading ladies from the new “Ghostbusters” can take the role.
As almost everything human males consider "attractive" is some kind of signal of fertility or fecundity, one suspects that she radiates "attractiveness" in the form of "health" and "symmetric features" to such a high degree that she reduces most men she meets to fidgeting and babbling in her presence.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Marty, @San Fernando Curt, @SteveRogers42
She’s a beautiful woman.
Best description I heard for the film is that it is a mediocre Marvel film. That in itself means (excluding the recent Batman films) it’s a step up for DC.
Oh no, Wonder Woman is played by a white woman just like she has always been played by a white woman. The fanboys are fine with that because it fits the role. Meanwhile the SJW grrrlll power reaction is plain stupid. Madness has gripped a certain portion of the world.
I will overlook your tragic myopia to bring up Cote de Pablo, who I somehow forgot to mention in the upthread discussion of the fetishizing of Israeli military women (she’s South American but played the inevitable Israeli madchen-fur-alles on NCIS). She is a good example of the most common Jewish semi-masculinized trait: Tyrannosaur jaw.
Douglas Fairbanks and Fred Astaire were both part Jewish.
My biggest problem with this film is one of tension. Can Wonder Woman take a bullet or not? In BVSM she got knocked around in a way that would make it seem like she is effectively bullet-proof, but in this film she has to block every shot. Weirdly the German soldiers play along and never try to shoot her anywhere but her gauntlets or shield, or when she pauses in the open for dramatic effect. Granted this is a problem for all these movies, but with only one character to focus on, you’d think they’d get it straight what her limits are.
Others have pointed out that she does well enough in the comedic scenes and action scenes but doesn’t quite have the screen presence to draw you in and make you care about the character. She seems more like a plot device. I think a lot of people wanted Jamie Alexander to be Wonder Woman when this was announced and I think that would have been a good choice, she looks more like the character and is a better actress and is highly charismatic.
The overall quality and innovativeness of the film (The god of war is inducing the Great War, we have to stop him sabotaging the peace negotiations, but we still get to kill a bunch of German conscripts as if they were Nazis anyway.) kept it going along.
Perhaps my two favorite American Jews of all time: Judah P. Benjamin and David Levy Yulee. If America had a couple dozen like them today, we’d be much better off.
France, Britain and Germany also are in dire need of a couple dozen Jews like them.
can I get you to make it three? Commodore Levy was the guy who abolished corporal punishment in the US Navy
There's a US Navy synagogue named for him onboard Norfolk Navy Base. It's upstairs from the Christian chapel. Free wine and egg-bread every Friday night if you don't mind looking at some non-Flag-Officer-staff quality of Navy girls.
When I was there a very long time ago, the Muslims did not have their own room. Bet that has changed.
Winter Soldier was narcoleptically boring, so that’s not a good endorsement.
Superhero movies are boring in general though, because they can't die, and many times, neither can their enemies.Replies: @syonredux, @snorlax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqIBGEcKhGsReplies: @syonredux
These are non-Greek ancient Eastern Europeans whose ruling class women sometimes took up arms (this is thoroughly evidenced but doesn't get you a viable matriarchal society).
Or
This is a very primitive society, where social gender roles are not well defined: not women dominating men but women dominating overgrown boys. This would explain why these societies do not survive beyond meeting societies of "real men." This is somewhat borne out by very primitive societies observable today (none of which look anything like Amazons).
By the way, "Amazon" is the single worst term for warrior women. In Greek mythology they exist to be laughed at -- when Bellerophon defeats you, you're doing something wrong.Replies: @AnotherGuessModel, @Chrisnonymous
Yes, although there are a number of theories about the real-life inspiration for the Amazons, the mythology is quite explicit in portraying them as barbaric foils to heroic male warriors and Greek cultural values. Cue scolding revisionism from classicists like Donna Zuckerberg. I can see the title now. Woke Amazons Slayed Racist, Misogynist Ancient Greeks
http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article155063589.html
Brownback has been so bad, he's is going to have an easy comparison. Next stop, 1600 Penn Ave, January 2021.Replies: @Chrisnonymous
That would be nice.
It’s a little hard to tell from an old black and white picture, but perhaps, like Freddie Mercury decades later, Dadabhoy Nauroji, the Victorian era Parsi MP, passed for some type of swarthy Mediterranean white? Or perhaps it didn’t matter much back then, because the poc presence in Britain was near zero, and he was just a novelty?

Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Johanus de Morgateroyde, @Lot, @Patrick Harris, @syonredux, @Art Deco, @biz, @Anonym, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @oddsbodkins, @Malcolm X-Lax, @MSP, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Danindc, @AnotherDad
> Gal Gadot is not pretty.
Congratulations, you have passed the homosexuality test.
(The favorite Jewfu of /pol/ for some time has been the b-list celebrity and ethnic, of all things, Uzbek, Milana Vayntrub. Take a look at her in any position or costume and then tell me about this Gadot person, and then blame it all on Uzbek nationalism.)Replies: @Difference Maker, @guest, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Autochthon
I shall defer to your expertise.
To repeat, Gadot is fine looking for a comic book Amazon warrior. Commenters (not you) complaining that she’s not suitably feminine perhaps don’t understand she was cast as the lead in a conventional superhero action movie. Casting a petite bombshell like Hayden Panettiere (for example) wouldn’t make any sense.
True, and many leading Universities would become majority non-White School overnight.
current breakdown at Harvard.
28% Jews, North Africans, Arabs, Middle Eastern and Persian.
22% Asian
21% White
13% Black
12% Hispanic
3% Native American (probably mostly whites like Sen. Warren)
probably many Jews will not self identify as being MENA. most Half Asians will identify as White when they apply to Harvard. I know a Korean adoptee who attended Penn, she identified as White to increase her chances of being accepted, and it worked
Unless 20% of the student body is Arab or Iranian, no.Replies: @Travis
The same folks that tell us race is a social construct, now inform us of this new (well, 21st century) category: person of color.
I’m so pasty white, my skin tone is pink–does that make me a person of color? I look forward to affirmative action and the rest of the bag of gibmedats…
> … the sexiest Jewish woman in screen history …
That would be Jennifer Connelly, if half-Jewish counts.
Must be the Magic Dirt in Israel that transmuted her ethnic heritage into MENA, and a person of color.
Or a Magic Marker.
Portman was awful in the prequels. (Everyone was awful, though, so you can’t blame only her.)
It was depressing to see how bad Fisher looked in the ripoff (the first new one). I haven’t seen the newest new film – J.J. has made two so far, right?
Fisher had an amusing cameo in Scream 3 as someone who looked an awful lot like … Carrie Fisher.
Despite having spent much of my life obsessed with Star Trek, I don't even know how many Abrams movies there have been. I saw the first two when they came out. I have a vague impression that Beyond is the third one, and that a fourth one - Discovery, is it? - will be coming out in the next few years.
I saw Into Darkness in the theater and found it so disappointing - a fourth-rate rehash of The Wrath of Khan, only marginally better than the fifth-rate TWoK retread that was Nemesis - that I vowed to boycott all upcoming Abrams flicks. I haven't seen one of his movies since.
Of course, I could easily answer all of these questions by doing a Google search, or even by paying a bit more attention to the news, but I don't want to know. I don't want to think about the soulless Hollywood machine and its never-ending assembly line of remakes.
Is there a man alive who has never seen any of the Harry Potter movies, any of the Lord of the Rings movies, or any of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies? Is there anyone in this world who has never seen *any* of them? There's at least one man who hasn't - me.
(Before everyone starts freaking out, let me say that I'm not conflating J.R.R. Tolkien with J.K. Rowling; I'm merely pointing to two enormously-lucrative movie franchises that I know nothing about. I have no interest in fantasy movies.)
The other day, I was thinking of a movie to watch, and the title that popped into my head was King Vidor's The Fountainhead (1949). I really dig that movie - and I'm no Randite, believe me. It's one of the best bad movies ever made. You have a character who tosses a statue out of a window because she doesn't like humanity and a character who blows up a humanitarian housing project because he doesn't like the statuary. Vidor's Code-approved depictions of rape and suicide are simplistic, even laughable, but surprisingly effective. The over-the-top phallic imagery - icy heiress Patricia Neal fantasizes about stone-cold quarry worker (and architect) Gary Cooper's long, hard drill - is only icing on the cake.
There will never be another movie like Vidor's Fountainhead. Oh, there'll be another movie with the same name and the same basic plot someday, but it won't have Cooper's wooden line deliveries, or Neal's ridiculously-overwrought facial expressions, or that crazy set design, or that insistent score, or that luscious black-and-white German Expressionist cinematography. (If it's anything like the low-budget Atlas Shrugged adaptation that came out a few years ago, it'll be a total borefest.)
If you know how much I like The Fountainhead, then you might be surprised to learn that at times I like Commando (1985), starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, even more.
There'll never be another movie like Commando. Oh, there'll be another similarly-silly action movie full of cheesy one-liners, but the humor will be a little too self-conscious to give off the same vibe. They'll probably make all of the villains white. If they do cast a white guy as the heroic lead, he'll probably be a Brit, and he'll likely affect a technically-flawless but vaguely-unconvincing American accent. They might cast an Aussie on the villain, but he won't have a mustache, and he won't be wearing a ridiculous Freddie Mercury getup, complete with leather pants and a chain-mail vest. But even if they decide to match all of the elements, find an Austrian bodybuilder with a thick-enough accent to play John Matrix, and do a shot-by-shot, word-for-word, R-rated remake, it won't be as good (meaning bad). The zeitgeist will see to that.
There aren't that many shot-by-shot remakes that we can use as examples of the effect of the zeitgeist, but there are a few. Gus Van Sant's Psycho (1998) is so startlingly different from - and inferior to - the 1960 Hitchcock film that it seems a crime that the two should bear the same name. The many (mostly) identical elements shared by the two films serve only to highlight the deficiencies of the newer movie's cast and crew, to say nothing of its director.
One of the most glaring examples is that, in 1960, we don't hear the sounds of Anthony Perkins abusing himself as he watches Janet Leigh undress through a crack in the wall. In 1998, we hear Vince Vaughn fapping to Anne Heche, and an ostensibly-creepy scene becomes so silly that it fails even as inadvertent comedy.
Van Sant doesn't seem to grasp that Norman Bates is an honest-to-God prude who would rather murder the object of his desire than admit his arousal. He wouldn't dream of touching himself. He's a Freudian archetype. He and Mother have a warped semi-sexual relationship. When he finds himself aroused by a living, breathing woman, Mother gets jealous and eliminates the competition.
(Of course, in the 2017 TV series, Norman Bates is a closet case who ends up sleeping with another man. How surprising.)
In 1960, when the actress playing Mrs. Chambers tells us that Norman found his mother and her lover dead together "in bed," she whispers the last two words as if they're some deep, dark secret to which the audience is becoming privy. (At that time, sex was not something that was discussed in polite company, and even a discreet, roundabout mention of it was seen as somewhat scandalous.) This adds to the characterization of a very minor character - it shows us that she's a gossip. (A certain kind of woman - an older busybody type - has always enjoyed whispering about other people's dirty little secrets.) In 1998, the actress says the words flatly, and makes no impression at all.
When we first see the 1960-model Mrs. Bates in all her glory, her hair is combed in such a way that it conceals the fact that she's a skeleton until the last possible moment. In 1998, we see the bones several seconds before the skull face finishes its slow 360-degree turn toward the camera, spoiling the supposed surprise. And unlike Vera Miles, Julianne Moore can't scream to save her life.
Psycho '98 is so inept that it pales in comparison even next to drek like The Silence of the Hams (1994), a staggeringly-incompetent Naked Gun-type "comedy" that borrows most of its major plot points from Hitchcock's classic. (The rest are taken from a certain well-known thriller starring Jodie Foster. Incidentally, the main character in Hams is named Jo Dee Fostar. The movie is that bad, and that dumb.)
I wonder if, two or three decades from now, I'll find myself listening to a bad-movie lover lamenting the fact that he's too young to remember the good old days when stuff like [crappy boring remake] was being made.
"Twenty-seventeen must have been such an interesting time to be alive," he'll say. "Why couldn't I have been born in, say, 1998, so I could have been old enough to enjoy all of that stuff when it was fresh and exciting and new? Why did I have to be born in 2019?"
"Kid," I'll respond in my crusty-old-curmudgeon voice, "that crap was old and tired and laughable at the time it was made. Even then, we were complaining about everything."
We'll see.Replies: @guest, @Anonymous, @Bob Smith of Suburbia, @Kylie
Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Johanus de Morgateroyde, @Lot, @Patrick Harris, @syonredux, @Art Deco, @biz, @Anonym, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @oddsbodkins, @Malcolm X-Lax, @MSP, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Danindc, @AnotherDad
Do a Google image search of “Gal Godot,” as I just did. Wanted to see for myself. Conclusion: Smoking hot.
You don't believe me, do you?
Elizabeth Taylor? Winona Rider, Natalie Portman? Or Jennifer Aniston, Jessica Parker, Mila Kunis and many others I have no idea of? A lot of TV series would be my guess, plus the characters' names: Hannah, Zach, Zeke, Josh...Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Stan Adams, @guest, @Anonymous
Jennifer Aniston isn’t Jewish, though she played a Jewish character on Friends.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Aniston
These are non-Greek ancient Eastern Europeans whose ruling class women sometimes took up arms (this is thoroughly evidenced but doesn't get you a viable matriarchal society).
Or
This is a very primitive society, where social gender roles are not well defined: not women dominating men but women dominating overgrown boys. This would explain why these societies do not survive beyond meeting societies of "real men." This is somewhat borne out by very primitive societies observable today (none of which look anything like Amazons).
By the way, "Amazon" is the single worst term for warrior women. In Greek mythology they exist to be laughed at -- when Bellerophon defeats you, you're doing something wrong.Replies: @AnotherGuessModel, @Chrisnonymous
I think it’s pretty clear that the Amazon myth was inspired by a community of former Olympic decathlon champions.
But I guess computers fix that.
Please explain.
I’ve heard great things about the WW movie, but I’m so sick of the social justice warrior shtick that I’ll be unable to just relax and enjoy the movie.
I don’t understand why everything in the world had to be a cry for social justice; especially since “justice” seems to mean “privileges for non-whites”.
> The good critical notices are largely motivated by the desire to be PC.
That’s what I thought, à la Ghostbusters, which was mostly embarrassingly dumb, though it had a lot of talent: onto the outrageous fantasy of the original, you tack on the improbability of misfit women scientists and engineers acting like tough first responders, assisted by a wimpy and stupid but cute Thor — well, I gave it points for chutzpah anyway!
So I expected Wonder Woman to be bad, for PC reasons and due to superhero fatigue: Doctor Strange ok, but Deadpool and that other “bad superheroes” film terrible in my book. So I was surprised to find Wonder Woman very, very enjoyable. Gal Gadot is luminous and works well with Chris Pine. Dialogue is sometimes very funny, action scenes are pretty cool (despite implausibility of those amazons as tough warriors at the start). And the message is not as dumb and tedious and childish as other superhero films: war is terrible, humans suck, grand principles fail, but humans are also capable of love and heroism and worth saving. And yes you can be a hot woman and still stand up for yourself and be admired not just for your hotness. Gal Gadot’s military and Israeli background may have helped make the movie more realistic: who you gonna believe about war: Gal Gadot or Scarlett Johansson?
Eh… Rachel Weisz, Scarlett Johansson? If Jewish women are seen as the sidekick, it’s because they’re so overrepresented in comedy. Roseanne Barr isn’t going to get a leading role as a siren.
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/I really don't know what more evidence one needs to show that jews are not white, if they don't see themselves as white, then how can one not accept this ? In the case of Gal Gadot, she certainly has Arabic features.Replies: @syonredux, @Lot, @Stealth, @International Jew, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Anon7, @Chris Mallory, @Jay Fink, @Right wing Jew, @Marcus, @Robert Dunn
LOL.
Officially jumping ship would be a stupendously dumb idea.
1. With so many powerful whites becoming folk of color overnight, Americans still wearing the scarlet W would immediately seem – and feel – a hell of a lot less privileged, and the social justice con would become less potent really fast.
2. Jews would be alienating their greatest allies: white evangelicals and other pro-Israel Republicans.
3. Now being on the outside, Jewish progressives would probably lose a lot of influence over their gentile counterparts.
I’m sure this list could be embellished, but suffice it to say that such a move would be Bad For The Jews in many ways.
Lynda Carter makes my pulse rise. This one doesn’t. I haven’t seen Wonder Woman yet, but she seemed mannish (physically and with the character) in the Superman movie.
As guest remarks, this Gadot creature is built like a twelve-year-old Chinese boy wearing a padded bra. Wonder Woman was meant to personify feminine perfection, including feminine beauty, not to be a mannish bundle of bones and sinew. The casting from the time before the world list its damned mind to feminism and related mental illnesses is instructive, as are of course the original drawings in the comic books.
I thought it was Courteney Cox’s character Monica Geller who was Jewish.
You narrative-wrecking again, Steve?
It is quite astonishing how sites of the alledged “America First” right are so utterly silent on the 50’th anniversary of the murderous attack by Israel on the USS Liberty and the treasonous cover-up.
“Not as pretty as Lynda Carter,” yeah but who is? Carter was one of those rare knockout Amazons who was actually a knockout. Lucy Lawless was similar, though not in Carter’s class.
She has a vaguely SE European look that makes that plausible.
Beautiful body, but her mind….
Because her concept and origin was as a female Captain-America type, for WWII comics. The rest is details that followed on. TL;DR version: she was literally invented to be a US cheerleader.
I’ve noticed this particular tactic to move the goalposts by double-dipping: a passable (not especially unattractive, maybe even pleasant, but hardly gorgeous) woman such ad Gadot is targeted as being too perfect, glamourous, beautiful, and so on, and thus instead of the passable woman being realistic and average (as she is, whereas a truly stunning woman like Lynda Carter would have beauty and grace admittedly unattainable and not to be expected in the overwhelming majority of women…), now, in the perverted view espoused, a passable woman with an unremarkable figure becomes the Holy Grail of unattainable perfection, such that tubby or truly homely women are now meant to be what the average man should see as on his level.
I see what they’ve done there. Clever bastards.
Anecdotally, my wife is of course the most beautiful woman in the world to me (she is my wife!), but she is no Lynda Carter (I’m certainly no Ryan Gosling!). That said, because she is fit: she stands just under five feet tall and, not being obese, weighs just under ninety pounds. Yet all the wildebeests we casually encounter react as if she were an anorexic gymnast simply because she does not have a gut. This isn’t a humblebragging “my wife is hot, bro” point – she is no Marilyn Monroe. Rather, I’m emphasizing that I know from personal experience, day in and day out, that the average (i.e., obese, nowadays) person now thinks a woman with a healthy, normal weight is some kind of freakishly petite creature to behold. It’s astounding how quickly this deranged view has taken hold, if you only think about it and investigate the actual average heigjts and weights of people in, say, the 1950s (and probably even much later…).
I'm 62, 5'7" tall, very small-boned and weigh 125 pounds. I'm very comfortable at this weight and while no athlete, stay active doing house and yard work and can still lock my knees and touch my toes. The chubbies I know who consider themselves "active" are always on the go. This means they drive from place to place and then sit when they get to where they're going. None of them are "active" doing any house or yard work
https://twitter.com/bustle/status/740340157665021952Replies: @Autochthon
I think it’s more just that the professional cosmetologists at Fox News are more skilled than whoever made her up (herself?) for the photograph at her blog.
I think this ridicoulous Lynda Carter vs gal gadot debate (which honestly is just as stupid and insignificant as the should WW shave her armpits debate) can be pretty aptly summed as such- people who still have hair and hence aren’t prone to relentless nostalgia find Gadot better looking. Like everything these days it comes down to boomer nostalgia for the days when they weren’t bald
Hedy Lamarr is a borderline Jew. The others are safe picks.
http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=617
I think people get confused not because her (most famous) rôle was Jewish, but because her nose is….
I hate to further complicate matters, but Gadot’s children could qualify as Hispanic, on account of their father’s name, Varsano, which is Spanish-Jewish.
Unfortunately, I’ve already spent my one alloted LOL on this thread. So, LOL for your comment too.
Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Johanus de Morgateroyde, @Lot, @Patrick Harris, @syonredux, @Art Deco, @biz, @Anonym, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @oddsbodkins, @Malcolm X-Lax, @MSP, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Danindc, @AnotherDad
“Gal Gadot is not pretty” – You’re on crack. She’s beautiful.
Yes, sexy Jewish women have been “in public life” forever. Steve mentioned Lauren Bacall. Yes!
The brain is the largest sex organ. (And it’s Woody Allen’s second favorite.)
Just imagine how much fun the men in Dr. Ruth Westheimer’s life have had:
One of the “working girls” I’ve mentioned here before was a Jewish girl from Far Rockaway. That kind of public life crosses all lines.
That comment would have gotten you pilloried in the first few heady months after Bruce/Kaitlin’s world-shaking announcement (a couple years ago already).
But now that his TV show has bombed and even the freakish Kardashian clan is washing its hands of him, I guess you can get away with kicking him like that.
FWIW, her soap-opera-star father was born in Greece.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Aniston
I know not of this lass but when I saw the photo my first thought was “perhaps after a six pack if there were no other prospects.”. Your Google suggestion was spot on. It is a modern version of what we referred to in my 1992 fraternity as the “Bjork Dilemma.”
I don’t think anyone did not already ling since know Carter’s daughter was sired by Altman. I’m not sure why the fact should inspire weeping in any event. If every breeding of a gentile woman to a Jew were cause for unhinged wailing and gnashing of teeth, we’d all long since have lost our voices and be gumming mashed potatoes for every meal. Just like the Negroes, mestizos, and all the other hostile and parasitic peoples, taking the women of the targeted population is what Jews do. It’s what all such hostile peoples have done since time immemorial. The only difference is the targeted men used to react by fighting rather than cheering.
Welcome to iSteve, if this basic truism of sociobiology excites you, you’re in for Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride if you stick around.
The Israeli girl is pretty nice looking tbh. Not a knockout but a healthy-looking broad. I think she did some kind of military service.
Do the Israelis fetishize their military women? U.S. servicewomen look like dogs generally. Maybe it is because the Israelis have mandatory service, I believe, so even the good looking girls put on the uniform. Whereas over here the US servicewomen pool is rather..... Sapphic. Or do the Israeli men just go in for the whole lady-in-uniform BDSM vibe, a lá Ilsa SheWolf of the SS? How does this square with some people's claims that the Jews aren't attracted to their own women?Replies: @J.Ross, @J.Ross, @International Jew, @Moshe, @englishmike
In one limited, and amusing way, yes. The army has girls teach new recruits how to use weapons — rifles, tanks, etc. It’s done on purpose as it’s thought the boys pay closer attention that way (even in their usually sleep-deprived state).
And that happened to be Gal Gadot’s role during her military service (according to Wikipedia).
Present day Gal Gadot is a little better looking than Linda Carter in her prime, I would say. Gadot is exceptionally good looking in my opinion. I don’t know how anyone could deny it.
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/I really don't know what more evidence one needs to show that jews are not white, if they don't see themselves as white, then how can one not accept this ? In the case of Gal Gadot, she certainly has Arabic features.Replies: @syonredux, @Lot, @Stealth, @International Jew, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Anon7, @Chris Mallory, @Jay Fink, @Right wing Jew, @Marcus, @Robert Dunn
For the record, I’m white. And when the “are we white” topic has come up, I’ve helpfully (nah, maliciously) suggested we ask a black person his opinion.
International Honorary White Jew. Only 'cos you're a jolly nice fellow. :)Replies: @International Jew
But Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman was much more feminine than feminist. She looked like she never touched a dumbbell. And how many times did some bad guy get the drop on her with chloroform?Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy, @SteveRogers42
Both the comic book and Lynda Carter TV show balanced out the feminist nature of the character by including some damsel-in-distress / BDSM-type scenarios. In fact, WW’s creator, William Moulton Marsten, was a noted BDSM enthusiast. In her original incarnation, Wonder Woman could be rendered powerless by having her hands bound by a man (!). Needless to say, I’m sure all these aspects have been dropped for this latest film, probably replaced by mindless feminist you-go-grrrl!-ism.
But given the overall tone of this thread this seems worth including: http://comicsalliance.com/golden-age-wonder-woman-kink-gallery/
Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Johanus de Morgateroyde, @Lot, @Patrick Harris, @syonredux, @Art Deco, @biz, @Anonym, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @oddsbodkins, @Malcolm X-Lax, @MSP, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Danindc, @AnotherDad
Not everyone can be the perfect Aryan beauty.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/02/nazi-aryan-baby-jewish_n_5551517.html
And that happened to be Gal Gadot's role during her military service (according to Wikipedia).Replies: @Mikey Darmody
Very interesting. Does it work?
From the trailer it looks like a little Puerto Rican girl wins WW1.
Bet the one million plus (all male) casualties of the Battle of the Somme might have something to say about that. Oh yeah right, they’re dead; and we’re left with a little Puerto Rican girl. Yay.
Of course comic books were always vehicles of Jewish wish fulfillment.
They stuck RWB all over everything so America would be cool with that. Don’t need that schtick any more though – am I right?
But one of the conceits of her '70s Wonder Woman was that she was supposed to be plain-looking as an Army secretary.Replies: @Judah Benjamin Hur, @TWS, @bored identity
She was awesome, but the show was unbelievably bad. Amazon had a good deal on the DVDs about 12 years ago and I had the misfortune to watch the entire series again after so many years. It was a lot more fun when I was a kid. Ugh.
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/I really don't know what more evidence one needs to show that jews are not white, if they don't see themselves as white, then how can one not accept this ? In the case of Gal Gadot, she certainly has Arabic features.Replies: @syonredux, @Lot, @Stealth, @International Jew, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Anon7, @Chris Mallory, @Jay Fink, @Right wing Jew, @Marcus, @Robert Dunn
There are some ridiculous Jews and then there are people like you who convince them that they’re sane. Congratulations.
To Steve's point, back when Al Franken first ran against Norm Coleman for the Senate seat representing Minnesota, which had been made famous by the late lamented Paul Wellstone, a Jewish blog (which no longer exists) plaintively wondered whether those dumb flyover rednecks in Saskatcheconsin or whatever it's called could bring themselves to Elect whom God had Chosen. Some impolite wag asked how the blogger could type such a thing given that all of the people involved, elected, defeated, or assassinated, were obviously Jewish. A few hours last that blog post was removed without explanation. But Jews reflexively take for granted that they are universally and irrationally hated, no matter how many times they are elected.
"Oh sure, I see how it is -- all of you want me to move to DC!"
Second point, the creepy one: Is the anorexic mousy Arabish Gadot a refutation to my creepy Law that "phenotypically Jewish girls are gorgeous, but nobody hates them worse than Hollywood or Israeli public relations?" Gadot has something of a history in Israeli public relations, and her perfectly balanced pleasant-mousiness is definitely a plus in attracting, or not offending, female audiences: would these same "body positive" audiences embrace a modern day young Lynda Carter? Maybe this is a refutation of the Law, but it does not mean that we have the true total freedom of casting, which we will possibly see in our lifetimes once Hollywood finally dies.Replies: @Anonymous, @Jack D, @Karl
Gadot is 100% Ashkenazi and not the least bit “Arabish”. If she were French or Spanish or Italian (and she could pass for any of them) no one would accuse her of being “Arabish”.
Prior to this, Gadot was famously in a pin-up campaign organized by the Israeli government, that was exposed as favoring Israeli women who were already established as professional models and who had not served in the military. Following that and with the benefit of Instagram, there are regular astroturf propaganda campaigns with photos of actual serving IDF chicks, often in auhentic-looking uniforms or photographed "spontaneously." They consistently look much better than the professional models.
There's a "Norwegian" guy that posted the same set every night at /pol/ for about three months.
Israeli military amazons have been dramatically talked-up and exaggerated in more recent movies, notably a Predator sequel that featuring an "Israeli jungle warfare specialist" (let that sink in), and the foundational text here is an old eighties flick titled "This Is The Army, Girls," which has a wrestling-training scene and a CFMN scene.
And of course Israelis deny this in the US press but they have always been intensely aware that their main enemy is literally "afraid of girls." There are stories about female IDF soldiers publicly humiliating old Arab men without provocation, basically for the amusement of their male comrades (or their own).Replies: @Mikey Darmody
I suppose it is a good recruitment tactic, probably better than the Western style of touting the economic benefits of military service. It would be best to recruit young men by appealing to love of country and desire for glory. However, America may be too debased to hold up as an object of devotion.
This talk of lady soldiers hearkens back to the Nietzsche thread. He recognized how cruel women can be. Even crueler than men, at least in a moral sense. A great play that is proto-Nietzschean and aware of the feminine nature of cruelty and madness is the Bacchae by Euripides:
“They did attack our herds: you could have seen a woman pull a calf to pieces as it bellowed alive in her bare hands!”
It's a pity Kipling's poems aren't taught in schools any more. "The Female Of The Species", "The Vampyre", "Gods Of The Copybook Headings" and "The Stranger Within My Gate" are almost the complete guide - and warning - to the way we live now.Replies: @syonredux
I was repeating what another commenter said about her appearance and saying absolutely nothing about her ancestry.
Yeah…but Caitlyn would kick her ass.
This.
None of these are good movies but Thor was more fun as it has a more charismatic lead who can approximate being an actor in a scene (Gadot couldn’t even pull off the right mugging expressions) as well as a wonderfully hammy Asgardian pseudo-shakespeare cast&story. It is also half an hour shorter than Wonder Woman.
Captain American: The First Avenger can get away with a lot because, again, Chris Evans has great screen presence and it was well paced and snappy. It also helps that WWII is so well-trodden and mythologized that you can almost ignore how superficial they treat the period or the narrative itself.
In contrast, Wonder Woman is wounded by how cartoonishly it treats WWI and its story- especially as the plot revolves around the character struggling to sympathize with humans in a war-torn world. All I took away from it was Diana switched capriciously between pitying and being amused by humans and their miseries of war.
There are a multitude of problems with this film– including the poor directing — and it is perplexing what so many people see in this movie.
You have no idea. Gadot was very pregnant during much of filming. She would carry it well (she’s 5’10”), but she wore a triangle of green cloth over the bump; her figure was filled in (or subtracted) in post-production.
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/I really don't know what more evidence one needs to show that jews are not white, if they don't see themselves as white, then how can one not accept this ? In the case of Gal Gadot, she certainly has Arabic features.Replies: @syonredux, @Lot, @Stealth, @International Jew, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Anon7, @Chris Mallory, @Jay Fink, @Right wing Jew, @Marcus, @Robert Dunn
Her ancestry is Polish-Jewish, Austrian-Jewish, German-Jewish, and Czech-Jewish.
The Master List of Comely Jewesses really ought to include Melanie Laurent, Bar Rafaeli, Eva Green (despite being a little odd looking), Rachel Riley, Winona Ryder, and, in her prime, Phoebe Cates. That last one almost makes me want to welcome our new Judeo-Asian overlords.
There are also some doubts as to Winona Ryder's ancestry on her mother's side: http://ethnicelebs.com/winona-ryder
And she looks like someone who would write crap like this!
Although Israeli women are supposedly able to perform pretty much any job in the military, in practice they aren’t in combat. Wikipedia says 600 women have died in wars since 1947, but 20,000 men have been killed, so that doesn’t sound equal to me. There are several army units that are mostly female, but they guard the Egypt/Israel border, with whom they have a treaty (and I think a wall).
What is “white”? Arabs are in fact classified as Caucasian, and Semites. Are they Caucasian but not white? Jews from the Levant are Semites, and therefore Caucasian, while Jews from the diaspora are one-half European and one-half Semite. Semi-white Semite?
Linda Carter was very voluptuous and her body type would not be able to move like the current Wonder Woman. It also doesn’t help that Carter’s WW had high heels.
That aside, has anyone noticed that Wonder Woman is Diana, Princess of “The Mascara”?
Can we have more Nietzsche stuff?
I agree no T or A.
Nor really hot unless you’re into skinny, frail fashion models.
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Seinfeld in his Comedians in Cars getting Coffee series repeatedly refers to himself as White.
Elizabeth Taylor? Winona Rider, Natalie Portman? Or Jennifer Aniston, Jessica Parker, Mila Kunis and many others I have no idea of? A lot of TV series would be my guess, plus the characters' names: Hannah, Zach, Zeke, Josh...Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Stan Adams, @guest, @Anonymous
Elizabeth Taylor was a convert:
http://forward.com/culture/136447/a-jew-by-choice-elizabeth-taylor-1932-2011/
Yep:
http://ethnicelebs.com/jennifer-aniston
I rather enjoyed it.Good action scenes, plus a critique of Obama’s assassination-by-drone foreign policy. I also liked Robert Redford essentially playing a variation on Cliff Robertson’s part in Three Days of the Condor.
Elizabeth Taylor? Winona Rider, Natalie Portman? Or Jennifer Aniston, Jessica Parker, Mila Kunis and many others I have no idea of? A lot of TV series would be my guess, plus the characters' names: Hannah, Zach, Zeke, Josh...Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Stan Adams, @guest, @Anonymous
Elizabeth Taylor was a convert, for what it’s worth. Plus, all those names you mention are probably better looking than the author, so they don’t count.
Her father was (is?) a famous soap opera actor.
I remember when this country had a serious and worthy middle-brow culture, before it was all replaced by f**king comic-books.
“For the record, I’m white.”
International Honorary White Jew. Only ‘cos you’re a jolly nice fellow. 🙂
My thought as well.
(The favorite Jewfu of /pol/ for some time has been the b-list celebrity and ethnic, of all things, Uzbek, Milana Vayntrub. Take a look at her in any position or costume and then tell me about this Gadot person, and then blame it all on Uzbek nationalism.)Replies: @Difference Maker, @guest, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Autochthon
It’s Kat Dennings v. Milana “AT&T&A” Vayntru in a dead heat for the Most Beautiful Jewess in the World…or at least Hollywood (although Vayntrub’s values are apparently hideous…but what do you expect from one of the Parasite People…).
Speaking of goofy propaganda about Jews and beauty in stupid comic-book movies: The idea that Thor was utterly beguiled by Portman’s Jane whilst Kat Dennings’ character spends the whole movie running around bemoaning her inability to attract men defies all suspension of disbelief, even in a film about superheroes. Although both actresses are Jewesses, so in this case it was clearly a matter of Portman’s greater star-power or whatever (not that Portman is unattractive; she’s just no Kat Dennings…).
***sigh***
Regardless, that sitcom she's on now is terrible. I have a hard time looking away, but the writing is really, really bad.Replies: @Autochthon
“Must be the Magic Dirt in Israel that transmuted her ethnic heritage into MENA, and a person of color.”
Or a Magic Marker.
Others have pointed out that she does well enough in the comedic scenes and action scenes but doesn't quite have the screen presence to draw you in and make you care about the character. She seems more like a plot device. I think a lot of people wanted Jamie Alexander to be Wonder Woman when this was announced and I think that would have been a good choice, she looks more like the character and is a better actress and is highly charismatic.
The overall quality and innovativeness of the film (The god of war is inducing the Great War, we have to stop him sabotaging the peace negotiations, but we still get to kill a bunch of German conscripts as if they were Nazis anyway.) kept it going along.Replies: @Greasy William
Jaime Alexander: 5/10. Would not bang.
Oh no, Wonder Woman is played by a white woman just like she has always been played by a white woman. The fanboys are fine with that because it fits the role. Meanwhile the SJW grrrlll power reaction is plain stupid. Madness has gripped a certain portion of the world.Replies: @Dave Pinsen
To me, The Incredibles is the best superhero movie ever. I say it should have won Best Picture in 2004.
Half-Jewish:
Here’s Rosanna’s sister’s ancestry results:
http://ethnicelebs.com/rosanna-arquette
It bored me too.
Superhero movies are boring in general though, because they can’t die, and many times, neither can their enemies.
Lynda Carter’s husband is the CEO of videogame publisher Zenimax (the shell company that owns Bethesda Softworks) and a total sleazeball. But I repeat myself.
Fun fact: President Trump’s younger brother Robert is on his board of directors.
When I was 10, I went through a pulp hero phase, my interest having been jump-started by reading Philip Jose Farmer’s glorious spoof biographies, Tarzan Alive and Doc Savage: His Apocalyptic Life. Despite enjoying Farmer’s mock bio, I simply could not get into Doc. Even for a 10-year old boy, the writing was simply atrocious. The Shadow was by far my favorite pulp hero. I read all 23 of the Pyramid reprints of the Shadow novels. They also had great cover art by Jim Steranko.
Apparently, there’s some debate about the kashrut levels of the characters: http://www.vulture.com/2014/12/friends-countdown-is-rachel-green-jewish.html
Half Greek.
He placed them in Anatolia. No Turks in Anatolia back then.
Libya. Other myths placed them in Ukraine, the Caucasus, Albania, etc.
https://twitter.com/RealLyndaCarter/status/834780320708837377Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Rifleman, @Neoconned, @Father O'Hara, @William Badwhite, @Robert Dunn
Now the important question is – Is Linda Jean Córdova Carter White?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynda_Carter
Carter was born in Phoenix, Arizona, the daughter of Juanita (née Córdova) and Colby Carter.
Her father is of English and Scots-Irish ancestry, and her mother, whose family hailed from Mexico, is of Mexican, Spanish and French descent
Or for that matter what about Catherine Bach from The Dukes of Hazzard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Bach
Bach was born in Warren, Ohio, the daughter of Norma Jean Kucera (née Verdugo), an acupuncturist, and Bernard Bachman, a rancher.
Her mother was of Mexican descent and her father was of German ancestry.
Or Raquel Welch?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raquel_Welch
Welch was born as Jo-Raquel Tejada on September 5, 1940 in Chicago, Illinois.
Her father, Armando Carlos Tejada Urquizo (1911–1976), was an aeronautical engineer from La Paz, Bolivia, born to Agustin Tejada and Raquel Urquizo; Welch was named after her paternal grandmother.
Her mother, Josephine Sarah (née Hall; 1909–2000), was the daughter of architect Emery Stanford Hall and his wife Clara Louise Adams, and was of English origin, originally of Salford, Lancashire, that dated back to the Mayflower.
Bach to me seems entirely white whereas Welch looks a little, but very little mestiza. I'd categorize the (once) very fine singers Linda Ronstadt and Vikki Carr as "light mestizas". I'd be the first to say my eye for these things is not world class, though.Replies: @syonredux
Based on genotype? White enough.
All three are cordially invited to reside in any future Hyperborean ethno-state over which I may rule. Just sayin'.
Superhero movies are boring in general though, because they can't die, and many times, neither can their enemies.Replies: @syonredux, @snorlax
Neither can James Bond. Or Philip Marlowe. Or Travis McGee.
Winter Soldier was a bit of an exception . Redford’s character died. And stayed dead.
Why not just make superhero musicals? Spider-Man the musical wasn't bad.Replies: @syonredux
I’m not sure it’s fair to call a campy, fun, ’70s TV series bad. It’s going to look dated from today’s vantage, but that’s not the same thing as it being bad.
That aside, has anyone noticed that Wonder Woman is Diana, Princess of "The Mascara"?Replies: @syonredux
Themiscyra
Must have been terrible.
http://ethnicelebs.com/eva-green
http://ethnicelebs.com/phoebe-cates
There are also some doubts as to Winona Ryder’s ancestry on her mother’s side:
http://ethnicelebs.com/winona-ryder
None of these are good movies but Thor was more fun as it has a more charismatic lead who can approximate being an actor in a scene (Gadot couldn't even pull off the right mugging expressions) as well as a wonderfully hammy Asgardian pseudo-shakespeare cast&story. It is also half an hour shorter than Wonder Woman.
Captain American: The First Avenger can get away with a lot because, again, Chris Evans has great screen presence and it was well paced and snappy. It also helps that WWII is so well-trodden and mythologized that you can almost ignore how superficial they treat the period or the narrative itself.
In contrast, Wonder Woman is wounded by how cartoonishly it treats WWI and its story- especially as the plot revolves around the character struggling to sympathize with humans in a war-torn world. All I took away from it was Diana switched capriciously between pitying and being amused by humans and their miseries of war.
There are a multitude of problems with this film-- including the poor directing -- and it is perplexing what so many people see in this movie.Replies: @syonredux
God, yes. Her acting was really bad. She was outshone by Chris Pine in all their scenes together.
That's what I thought, à la Ghostbusters, which was mostly embarrassingly dumb, though it had a lot of talent: onto the outrageous fantasy of the original, you tack on the improbability of misfit women scientists and engineers acting like tough first responders, assisted by a wimpy and stupid but cute Thor -- well, I gave it points for chutzpah anyway!
So I expected Wonder Woman to be bad, for PC reasons and due to superhero fatigue: Doctor Strange ok, but Deadpool and that other "bad superheroes" film terrible in my book. So I was surprised to find Wonder Woman very, very enjoyable. Gal Gadot is luminous and works well with Chris Pine. Dialogue is sometimes very funny, action scenes are pretty cool (despite implausibility of those amazons as tough warriors at the start). And the message is not as dumb and tedious and childish as other superhero films: war is terrible, humans suck, grand principles fail, but humans are also capable of love and heroism and worth saving. And yes you can be a hot woman and still stand up for yourself and be admired not just for your hotness. Gal Gadot's military and Israeli background may have helped make the movie more realistic: who you gonna believe about war: Gal Gadot or Scarlett Johansson?Replies: @syonredux, @Bob Smith of Suburbia
Well, As I said upthread, I thought that it was OK. Not terrible (Catwoman , Suicide Squad). Not really good (Dark Knight, Iron Man). Just OK. And I can see how someone might like it more than I did.
Rosanna isn’t even the sexiest Arquette sister.
P.S. Maybe this is just me, but – Peggy Lipton.
That would be Jennifer Connelly, if half-Jewish counts.Replies: @Njguy73, @fish
Three words: The. Hot. Spot. ‘Nuff said.
*Square jaw, protruding forehead, bump in nose, high flat cheekbones, big mouth, noticeable lack of daintiness. And that's just the face.Replies: @Opinionator, @AnotherGuessModel, @Truth, @TWS, @Hippopotamusdrome
Sharp knees too. Hideous. No man could hit that.
“Jewish women were portrayed on film as unattractive”
Yer, like Eva Green, who has probably done more sex and nudity scenes than any other actress on film and TV. She basically a classically trained adult actress. And Rachel Weiss and Natalie Portman are hardly portrayed as nerdy Jewish wallflowers either.
James Bond movies suffer from the same problem, though the old ones dealt with it in campy fashion.
Why not just make superhero musicals? Spider-Man the musical wasn’t bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i574Em3IrIReplies: @Dave Pinsen
Interesting. Makes sense.
We assume Rachel is Jewish because her name is Rachel Green, she went to school and was friends with the definitely Jewish Gellars growing up, she acts like a Jewish Princess, her father is a doctor, and many other reasons. But I don’t think we ever get confirmation.
I didn’t mean modern ethnic Turks. I just meant in the region that is now Turkey, which means they weren’t Greek. (Unless they colonized it.)
The issue is the ancient Hellenic world not modern Greece. Hellene in English is usually used to mean an ancient Greek. But as far as I know, most of the areas Jews lived in were 'Hellenized' by Alexander or earlier and stayed that way until the Turkic and Arab expansions.
FWIW modern Greece does not use the word to describe themselves, they use the term Hellenic.
It is also not clear what ancient peoples actually looked like. Brunette is genetically dominant, but ancient peoples lived in such isolated clusters maybe they had very different looks.
Superhero movies are boring in general though, because they can't die, and many times, neither can their enemies.Replies: @syonredux, @snorlax
You can usually bet on the protagonist not dying even in non-franchise films. It’s the rare exception (*spoilers* obviously) — Game of Thrones, No Country for Old Men — where they do.
But one of the conceits of her '70s Wonder Woman was that she was supposed to be plain-looking as an Army secretary.Replies: @Judah Benjamin Hur, @TWS, @bored identity
She wore glasses. Glasses.
She’s on the new Twin Peaks. Looks great for her age.
Are Semites White?
Yeah. For a 70-year old woman, she looks fantastic.
Dreadful casting, just dreadful.Replies: @guest
Aren’t Ashkenazis semitic? Like Arabs are?
http://forward.com/culture/136447/a-jew-by-choice-elizabeth-taylor-1932-2011/Replies: @Opinionator
So what.
Why not just make superhero musicals? Spider-Man the musical wasn't bad.Replies: @syonredux
You can also add Indiana Jones, Simon Templar, Bulldog Drummond, Tarzan, ….
I liked the musical number in Captain America: The First Avenger:
It also seems cruel to make Chris Evans walk around at 6% body fat forever (even crueler to make the 48-year-old Hugh Jackman do it). For all the talk about female beauty standards in Hollywood, I bet no actress has a diet and exercise regime as harsh as Hugh Jackman's.Replies: @syonredux
And 1/2 the Ashkenazi is Roman, so really she’s just 24.25% jewish.
If you're going back 2000 years to the Romans, why don't you just go back another 3000 years or so, in which case Arquette would be 0% Jewish?
Are there any other ethnic groups you tend to go back 2000 years to determine the ancestry of?Replies: @Opinionator
http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=617Replies: @Trelane
Hedy Lamarr was not only beautiful, she was also highly intelligent. She invented a form of radio modulation called “frequency hopping” when she was only 28 years old. This is especially impressive since she had no training (formal or otherwise) in radio engineering and had left school as a teen to pursue an acting career in Berlin. Today, all of our advanced radio techiniques such as cell phones, wifi, satellites and blue tooth use this technology developed by Hedy. Frederick Emmons Terman must have been blown away by this chick. Howard Hughes offered her a job at his aircraft company and I don’t blame him. According to the Internet Hedy Lamarr may have been among the smartest women ever to have lived, right up there with Oprah Winfrey (largest head/brain on record) and Grace Hopper (inventer of computer programming).
Otherwise perfectly legitimate inventions have had their patents minimized or invalidated based on "prior art" that consisted of passages in science fiction pulp novels, or in at least one case, MAD magazine.Replies: @Autochthon
So this article is clearly about ethnic/racial Jews, not English-Americans who suddenly become Jews in their mid-20s.
It was depressing to see how bad Fisher looked in the ripoff (the first new one). I haven't seen the newest new film - J.J. has made two so far, right?
Fisher had an amusing cameo in Scream 3 as someone who looked an awful lot like ... Carrie Fisher.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kdKjQgUVDaIReplies: @Stan Adams, @MEH 0910
To answer my own question: I pay so little attention to Star Wars news that I wasn’t even sure if we were on Movie 8 or Movie 9. I looked it up. The next one (coming out on December 15 of this year) is 8. Movie 7, whatever it’s called, is a ripoff of A New Hope.
Despite having spent much of my life obsessed with Star Trek, I don’t even know how many Abrams movies there have been. I saw the first two when they came out. I have a vague impression that Beyond is the third one, and that a fourth one – Discovery, is it? – will be coming out in the next few years.
I saw Into Darkness in the theater and found it so disappointing – a fourth-rate rehash of The Wrath of Khan, only marginally better than the fifth-rate TWoK retread that was Nemesis – that I vowed to boycott all upcoming Abrams flicks. I haven’t seen one of his movies since.
Of course, I could easily answer all of these questions by doing a Google search, or even by paying a bit more attention to the news, but I don’t want to know. I don’t want to think about the soulless Hollywood machine and its never-ending assembly line of remakes.
Is there a man alive who has never seen any of the Harry Potter movies, any of the Lord of the Rings movies, or any of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies? Is there anyone in this world who has never seen *any* of them? There’s at least one man who hasn’t – me.
(Before everyone starts freaking out, let me say that I’m not conflating J.R.R. Tolkien with J.K. Rowling; I’m merely pointing to two enormously-lucrative movie franchises that I know nothing about. I have no interest in fantasy movies.)
The other day, I was thinking of a movie to watch, and the title that popped into my head was King Vidor’s The Fountainhead (1949). I really dig that movie – and I’m no Randite, believe me. It’s one of the best bad movies ever made. You have a character who tosses a statue out of a window because she doesn’t like humanity and a character who blows up a humanitarian housing project because he doesn’t like the statuary. Vidor’s Code-approved depictions of rape and suicide are simplistic, even laughable, but surprisingly effective. The over-the-top phallic imagery – icy heiress Patricia Neal fantasizes about stone-cold quarry worker (and architect) Gary Cooper’s long, hard drill – is only icing on the cake.
There will never be another movie like Vidor’s Fountainhead. Oh, there’ll be another movie with the same name and the same basic plot someday, but it won’t have Cooper’s wooden line deliveries, or Neal’s ridiculously-overwrought facial expressions, or that crazy set design, or that insistent score, or that luscious black-and-white German Expressionist cinematography. (If it’s anything like the low-budget Atlas Shrugged adaptation that came out a few years ago, it’ll be a total borefest.)
If you know how much I like The Fountainhead, then you might be surprised to learn that at times I like Commando (1985), starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, even more.
There’ll never be another movie like Commando. Oh, there’ll be another similarly-silly action movie full of cheesy one-liners, but the humor will be a little too self-conscious to give off the same vibe. They’ll probably make all of the villains white. If they do cast a white guy as the heroic lead, he’ll probably be a Brit, and he’ll likely affect a technically-flawless but vaguely-unconvincing American accent. They might cast an Aussie on the villain, but he won’t have a mustache, and he won’t be wearing a ridiculous Freddie Mercury getup, complete with leather pants and a chain-mail vest. But even if they decide to match all of the elements, find an Austrian bodybuilder with a thick-enough accent to play John Matrix, and do a shot-by-shot, word-for-word, R-rated remake, it won’t be as good (meaning bad). The zeitgeist will see to that.
There aren’t that many shot-by-shot remakes that we can use as examples of the effect of the zeitgeist, but there are a few. Gus Van Sant’s Psycho (1998) is so startlingly different from – and inferior to – the 1960 Hitchcock film that it seems a crime that the two should bear the same name. The many (mostly) identical elements shared by the two films serve only to highlight the deficiencies of the newer movie’s cast and crew, to say nothing of its director.
One of the most glaring examples is that, in 1960, we don’t hear the sounds of Anthony Perkins abusing himself as he watches Janet Leigh undress through a crack in the wall. In 1998, we hear Vince Vaughn fapping to Anne Heche, and an ostensibly-creepy scene becomes so silly that it fails even as inadvertent comedy.
Van Sant doesn’t seem to grasp that Norman Bates is an honest-to-God prude who would rather murder the object of his desire than admit his arousal. He wouldn’t dream of touching himself. He’s a Freudian archetype. He and Mother have a warped semi-sexual relationship. When he finds himself aroused by a living, breathing woman, Mother gets jealous and eliminates the competition.
(Of course, in the 2017 TV series, Norman Bates is a closet case who ends up sleeping with another man. How surprising.)
In 1960, when the actress playing Mrs. Chambers tells us that Norman found his mother and her lover dead together “in bed,” she whispers the last two words as if they’re some deep, dark secret to which the audience is becoming privy. (At that time, sex was not something that was discussed in polite company, and even a discreet, roundabout mention of it was seen as somewhat scandalous.) This adds to the characterization of a very minor character – it shows us that she’s a gossip. (A certain kind of woman – an older busybody type – has always enjoyed whispering about other people’s dirty little secrets.) In 1998, the actress says the words flatly, and makes no impression at all.
When we first see the 1960-model Mrs. Bates in all her glory, her hair is combed in such a way that it conceals the fact that she’s a skeleton until the last possible moment. In 1998, we see the bones several seconds before the skull face finishes its slow 360-degree turn toward the camera, spoiling the supposed surprise. And unlike Vera Miles, Julianne Moore can’t scream to save her life.
Psycho ’98 is so inept that it pales in comparison even next to drek like The Silence of the Hams (1994), a staggeringly-incompetent Naked Gun-type “comedy” that borrows most of its major plot points from Hitchcock’s classic. (The rest are taken from a certain well-known thriller starring Jodie Foster. Incidentally, the main character in Hams is named Jo Dee Fostar. The movie is that bad, and that dumb.)
I wonder if, two or three decades from now, I’ll find myself listening to a bad-movie lover lamenting the fact that he’s too young to remember the good old days when stuff like [crappy boring remake] was being made.
“Twenty-seventeen must have been such an interesting time to be alive,” he’ll say. “Why couldn’t I have been born in, say, 1998, so I could have been old enough to enjoy all of that stuff when it was fresh and exciting and new? Why did I have to be born in 2019?”
“Kid,” I’ll respond in my crusty-old-curmudgeon voice, “that crap was old and tired and laughable at the time it was made. Even then, we were complaining about everything.”
We’ll see.
Google "Ruthless Reviews Commando". Some funny shit.
And at least one woman--me.
What makes someone a Semite?
A: A mommy Semite and a daddy Semite. In fact, it's Semites all the way down.Replies: @syonredux
Are they?
https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2016/07/20/even-more-on-ashkenazi-ancestry/
Despite having spent much of my life obsessed with Star Trek, I don't even know how many Abrams movies there have been. I saw the first two when they came out. I have a vague impression that Beyond is the third one, and that a fourth one - Discovery, is it? - will be coming out in the next few years.
I saw Into Darkness in the theater and found it so disappointing - a fourth-rate rehash of The Wrath of Khan, only marginally better than the fifth-rate TWoK retread that was Nemesis - that I vowed to boycott all upcoming Abrams flicks. I haven't seen one of his movies since.
Of course, I could easily answer all of these questions by doing a Google search, or even by paying a bit more attention to the news, but I don't want to know. I don't want to think about the soulless Hollywood machine and its never-ending assembly line of remakes.
Is there a man alive who has never seen any of the Harry Potter movies, any of the Lord of the Rings movies, or any of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies? Is there anyone in this world who has never seen *any* of them? There's at least one man who hasn't - me.
(Before everyone starts freaking out, let me say that I'm not conflating J.R.R. Tolkien with J.K. Rowling; I'm merely pointing to two enormously-lucrative movie franchises that I know nothing about. I have no interest in fantasy movies.)
The other day, I was thinking of a movie to watch, and the title that popped into my head was King Vidor's The Fountainhead (1949). I really dig that movie - and I'm no Randite, believe me. It's one of the best bad movies ever made. You have a character who tosses a statue out of a window because she doesn't like humanity and a character who blows up a humanitarian housing project because he doesn't like the statuary. Vidor's Code-approved depictions of rape and suicide are simplistic, even laughable, but surprisingly effective. The over-the-top phallic imagery - icy heiress Patricia Neal fantasizes about stone-cold quarry worker (and architect) Gary Cooper's long, hard drill - is only icing on the cake.
There will never be another movie like Vidor's Fountainhead. Oh, there'll be another movie with the same name and the same basic plot someday, but it won't have Cooper's wooden line deliveries, or Neal's ridiculously-overwrought facial expressions, or that crazy set design, or that insistent score, or that luscious black-and-white German Expressionist cinematography. (If it's anything like the low-budget Atlas Shrugged adaptation that came out a few years ago, it'll be a total borefest.)
If you know how much I like The Fountainhead, then you might be surprised to learn that at times I like Commando (1985), starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, even more.
There'll never be another movie like Commando. Oh, there'll be another similarly-silly action movie full of cheesy one-liners, but the humor will be a little too self-conscious to give off the same vibe. They'll probably make all of the villains white. If they do cast a white guy as the heroic lead, he'll probably be a Brit, and he'll likely affect a technically-flawless but vaguely-unconvincing American accent. They might cast an Aussie on the villain, but he won't have a mustache, and he won't be wearing a ridiculous Freddie Mercury getup, complete with leather pants and a chain-mail vest. But even if they decide to match all of the elements, find an Austrian bodybuilder with a thick-enough accent to play John Matrix, and do a shot-by-shot, word-for-word, R-rated remake, it won't be as good (meaning bad). The zeitgeist will see to that.
There aren't that many shot-by-shot remakes that we can use as examples of the effect of the zeitgeist, but there are a few. Gus Van Sant's Psycho (1998) is so startlingly different from - and inferior to - the 1960 Hitchcock film that it seems a crime that the two should bear the same name. The many (mostly) identical elements shared by the two films serve only to highlight the deficiencies of the newer movie's cast and crew, to say nothing of its director.
One of the most glaring examples is that, in 1960, we don't hear the sounds of Anthony Perkins abusing himself as he watches Janet Leigh undress through a crack in the wall. In 1998, we hear Vince Vaughn fapping to Anne Heche, and an ostensibly-creepy scene becomes so silly that it fails even as inadvertent comedy.
Van Sant doesn't seem to grasp that Norman Bates is an honest-to-God prude who would rather murder the object of his desire than admit his arousal. He wouldn't dream of touching himself. He's a Freudian archetype. He and Mother have a warped semi-sexual relationship. When he finds himself aroused by a living, breathing woman, Mother gets jealous and eliminates the competition.
(Of course, in the 2017 TV series, Norman Bates is a closet case who ends up sleeping with another man. How surprising.)
In 1960, when the actress playing Mrs. Chambers tells us that Norman found his mother and her lover dead together "in bed," she whispers the last two words as if they're some deep, dark secret to which the audience is becoming privy. (At that time, sex was not something that was discussed in polite company, and even a discreet, roundabout mention of it was seen as somewhat scandalous.) This adds to the characterization of a very minor character - it shows us that she's a gossip. (A certain kind of woman - an older busybody type - has always enjoyed whispering about other people's dirty little secrets.) In 1998, the actress says the words flatly, and makes no impression at all.
When we first see the 1960-model Mrs. Bates in all her glory, her hair is combed in such a way that it conceals the fact that she's a skeleton until the last possible moment. In 1998, we see the bones several seconds before the skull face finishes its slow 360-degree turn toward the camera, spoiling the supposed surprise. And unlike Vera Miles, Julianne Moore can't scream to save her life.
Psycho '98 is so inept that it pales in comparison even next to drek like The Silence of the Hams (1994), a staggeringly-incompetent Naked Gun-type "comedy" that borrows most of its major plot points from Hitchcock's classic. (The rest are taken from a certain well-known thriller starring Jodie Foster. Incidentally, the main character in Hams is named Jo Dee Fostar. The movie is that bad, and that dumb.)
I wonder if, two or three decades from now, I'll find myself listening to a bad-movie lover lamenting the fact that he's too young to remember the good old days when stuff like [crappy boring remake] was being made.
"Twenty-seventeen must have been such an interesting time to be alive," he'll say. "Why couldn't I have been born in, say, 1998, so I could have been old enough to enjoy all of that stuff when it was fresh and exciting and new? Why did I have to be born in 2019?"
"Kid," I'll respond in my crusty-old-curmudgeon voice, "that crap was old and tired and laughable at the time it was made. Even then, we were complaining about everything."
We'll see.Replies: @guest, @Anonymous, @Bob Smith of Suburbia, @Kylie
That drilling scene is scorching! Very suggestive forearms.
She has a big nose but I don`t hold that against her:
Bar Refaeli rates a three on my finger scale* – Gal Gadot a mere one.
* See “The Last Boy Scout”.
To Steve's point, back when Al Franken first ran against Norm Coleman for the Senate seat representing Minnesota, which had been made famous by the late lamented Paul Wellstone, a Jewish blog (which no longer exists) plaintively wondered whether those dumb flyover rednecks in Saskatcheconsin or whatever it's called could bring themselves to Elect whom God had Chosen. Some impolite wag asked how the blogger could type such a thing given that all of the people involved, elected, defeated, or assassinated, were obviously Jewish. A few hours last that blog post was removed without explanation. But Jews reflexively take for granted that they are universally and irrationally hated, no matter how many times they are elected.
"Oh sure, I see how it is -- all of you want me to move to DC!"
Second point, the creepy one: Is the anorexic mousy Arabish Gadot a refutation to my creepy Law that "phenotypically Jewish girls are gorgeous, but nobody hates them worse than Hollywood or Israeli public relations?" Gadot has something of a history in Israeli public relations, and her perfectly balanced pleasant-mousiness is definitely a plus in attracting, or not offending, female audiences: would these same "body positive" audiences embrace a modern day young Lynda Carter? Maybe this is a refutation of the Law, but it does not mean that we have the true total freedom of casting, which we will possibly see in our lifetimes once Hollywood finally dies.Replies: @Anonymous, @Jack D, @Karl
11 J Ross > the anorexic mousy Arabish Gadot
From the Hebrew-wikipedia page about her: Her sabra parents had an original name of Greenshtein. Pops was an engineer and ima was a public-school teacher. Gal herself was allowed to defer her conscription-mobilization to age 20 because she had a job (a few paying gigs) as a model (such a deferment is not ridiculously difficult to get with some plausible story, especially if your pops knows somebody).
She was NOT an officer; she only did the (female) required basic 2 years, serving as a physical-training assistant. Gal probably spun tales of being Army Superwoman to these very gullible Hollywood Jews. But the ==actual== job of a “madasnikit” is to babysit low-medical-profile guys through the remedial physical-fitness course to be able to be shoved into a lower-tier infantry unit, ones that accept non-elite guys.
A madasnikit is not any kind of elite duty, my friends.
FWIW, Grace Hopper (1906-1992) did not invent computer programming. What she did do, was invent the first compiler while at Univac, which is a landmark achievement in computer science. Grace Hopper was also an early champion of the development of programming languages with English-like commands and syntax, an idea that was also brushed off initially, but proved to be deeply powerful.
The inventor of computer programming (at least conceptually) was Lady Ada Lovelace (1815-1852). She was Byron’s daughter.
Inconceivable thought it might seem, both women were in a different league, intellectually and in terms magnitude of actual accomplishment, than the genius black ladies who operated the puppet rocket scientists running the space program.
That would be Jennifer Connelly, if half-Jewish counts.Replies: @Njguy73, @fish
Back in “Mulholland Falls” days when she still had her baby fat! She got a little ropey when she thinned out!
Elizabeth Taylor? Winona Rider, Natalie Portman? Or Jennifer Aniston, Jessica Parker, Mila Kunis and many others I have no idea of? A lot of TV series would be my guess, plus the characters' names: Hannah, Zach, Zeke, Josh...Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Stan Adams, @guest, @Anonymous
A heaping helping of Jewesses are actresses, some of them quite pretty even to my jaundiced eye.
Liz and MM converted, although the latter’s conversion was a sort of hoax foisted on her by Arthur Miller who found “a very humanistic rabbi” to instruct her. Somewhere between Lucy’s being taught goofy golf and Sinatra’s bogus investiture in the Knights of Malta.
Nothing in Jennifer Aniston’s Wikipedia page indicates any connection to Judaism or Jewish descent:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Aniston
I would be very surprised if Emirates Airlines would hire a Jewish spokeswoman, besides.
Despite having spent much of my life obsessed with Star Trek, I don't even know how many Abrams movies there have been. I saw the first two when they came out. I have a vague impression that Beyond is the third one, and that a fourth one - Discovery, is it? - will be coming out in the next few years.
I saw Into Darkness in the theater and found it so disappointing - a fourth-rate rehash of The Wrath of Khan, only marginally better than the fifth-rate TWoK retread that was Nemesis - that I vowed to boycott all upcoming Abrams flicks. I haven't seen one of his movies since.
Of course, I could easily answer all of these questions by doing a Google search, or even by paying a bit more attention to the news, but I don't want to know. I don't want to think about the soulless Hollywood machine and its never-ending assembly line of remakes.
Is there a man alive who has never seen any of the Harry Potter movies, any of the Lord of the Rings movies, or any of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies? Is there anyone in this world who has never seen *any* of them? There's at least one man who hasn't - me.
(Before everyone starts freaking out, let me say that I'm not conflating J.R.R. Tolkien with J.K. Rowling; I'm merely pointing to two enormously-lucrative movie franchises that I know nothing about. I have no interest in fantasy movies.)
The other day, I was thinking of a movie to watch, and the title that popped into my head was King Vidor's The Fountainhead (1949). I really dig that movie - and I'm no Randite, believe me. It's one of the best bad movies ever made. You have a character who tosses a statue out of a window because she doesn't like humanity and a character who blows up a humanitarian housing project because he doesn't like the statuary. Vidor's Code-approved depictions of rape and suicide are simplistic, even laughable, but surprisingly effective. The over-the-top phallic imagery - icy heiress Patricia Neal fantasizes about stone-cold quarry worker (and architect) Gary Cooper's long, hard drill - is only icing on the cake.
There will never be another movie like Vidor's Fountainhead. Oh, there'll be another movie with the same name and the same basic plot someday, but it won't have Cooper's wooden line deliveries, or Neal's ridiculously-overwrought facial expressions, or that crazy set design, or that insistent score, or that luscious black-and-white German Expressionist cinematography. (If it's anything like the low-budget Atlas Shrugged adaptation that came out a few years ago, it'll be a total borefest.)
If you know how much I like The Fountainhead, then you might be surprised to learn that at times I like Commando (1985), starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, even more.
There'll never be another movie like Commando. Oh, there'll be another similarly-silly action movie full of cheesy one-liners, but the humor will be a little too self-conscious to give off the same vibe. They'll probably make all of the villains white. If they do cast a white guy as the heroic lead, he'll probably be a Brit, and he'll likely affect a technically-flawless but vaguely-unconvincing American accent. They might cast an Aussie on the villain, but he won't have a mustache, and he won't be wearing a ridiculous Freddie Mercury getup, complete with leather pants and a chain-mail vest. But even if they decide to match all of the elements, find an Austrian bodybuilder with a thick-enough accent to play John Matrix, and do a shot-by-shot, word-for-word, R-rated remake, it won't be as good (meaning bad). The zeitgeist will see to that.
There aren't that many shot-by-shot remakes that we can use as examples of the effect of the zeitgeist, but there are a few. Gus Van Sant's Psycho (1998) is so startlingly different from - and inferior to - the 1960 Hitchcock film that it seems a crime that the two should bear the same name. The many (mostly) identical elements shared by the two films serve only to highlight the deficiencies of the newer movie's cast and crew, to say nothing of its director.
One of the most glaring examples is that, in 1960, we don't hear the sounds of Anthony Perkins abusing himself as he watches Janet Leigh undress through a crack in the wall. In 1998, we hear Vince Vaughn fapping to Anne Heche, and an ostensibly-creepy scene becomes so silly that it fails even as inadvertent comedy.
Van Sant doesn't seem to grasp that Norman Bates is an honest-to-God prude who would rather murder the object of his desire than admit his arousal. He wouldn't dream of touching himself. He's a Freudian archetype. He and Mother have a warped semi-sexual relationship. When he finds himself aroused by a living, breathing woman, Mother gets jealous and eliminates the competition.
(Of course, in the 2017 TV series, Norman Bates is a closet case who ends up sleeping with another man. How surprising.)
In 1960, when the actress playing Mrs. Chambers tells us that Norman found his mother and her lover dead together "in bed," she whispers the last two words as if they're some deep, dark secret to which the audience is becoming privy. (At that time, sex was not something that was discussed in polite company, and even a discreet, roundabout mention of it was seen as somewhat scandalous.) This adds to the characterization of a very minor character - it shows us that she's a gossip. (A certain kind of woman - an older busybody type - has always enjoyed whispering about other people's dirty little secrets.) In 1998, the actress says the words flatly, and makes no impression at all.
When we first see the 1960-model Mrs. Bates in all her glory, her hair is combed in such a way that it conceals the fact that she's a skeleton until the last possible moment. In 1998, we see the bones several seconds before the skull face finishes its slow 360-degree turn toward the camera, spoiling the supposed surprise. And unlike Vera Miles, Julianne Moore can't scream to save her life.
Psycho '98 is so inept that it pales in comparison even next to drek like The Silence of the Hams (1994), a staggeringly-incompetent Naked Gun-type "comedy" that borrows most of its major plot points from Hitchcock's classic. (The rest are taken from a certain well-known thriller starring Jodie Foster. Incidentally, the main character in Hams is named Jo Dee Fostar. The movie is that bad, and that dumb.)
I wonder if, two or three decades from now, I'll find myself listening to a bad-movie lover lamenting the fact that he's too young to remember the good old days when stuff like [crappy boring remake] was being made.
"Twenty-seventeen must have been such an interesting time to be alive," he'll say. "Why couldn't I have been born in, say, 1998, so I could have been old enough to enjoy all of that stuff when it was fresh and exciting and new? Why did I have to be born in 2019?"
"Kid," I'll respond in my crusty-old-curmudgeon voice, "that crap was old and tired and laughable at the time it was made. Even then, we were complaining about everything."
We'll see.Replies: @guest, @Anonymous, @Bob Smith of Suburbia, @Kylie
Yes (with the asterisk that I watched about ten minutes of some Harry Potter movie or another while in an emergency room waiting room). Me.
France, Britain and Germany also are in dire need of a couple dozen Jews like them.Replies: @Karl
77 Jake > my two favorite American Jews of all time
can I get you to make it three? Commodore Levy was the guy who abolished corporal punishment in the US Navy
There’s a US Navy synagogue named for him onboard Norfolk Navy Base. It’s upstairs from the Christian chapel. Free wine and egg-bread every Friday night if you don’t mind looking at some non-Flag-Officer-staff quality of Navy girls.
When I was there a very long time ago, the Muslims did not have their own room. Bet that has changed.
Her father is of English and Scots-Irish ancestry, and her mother, whose family hailed from Mexico, is of Mexican, Spanish and French descentOr for that matter what about Catherine Bach from The Dukes of Hazzard.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_BachBach was born in Warren, Ohio, the daughter of Norma Jean Kucera (née Verdugo), an acupuncturist, and Bernard Bachman, a rancher. Her mother was of Mexican descent and her father was of German ancestry.Or Raquel Welch? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raquel_WelchWelch was born as Jo-Raquel Tejada on September 5, 1940 in Chicago, Illinois.Her father, Armando Carlos Tejada Urquizo (1911–1976), was an aeronautical engineer from La Paz, Bolivia, born to Agustin Tejada and Raquel Urquizo; Welch was named after her paternal grandmother.Her mother, Josephine Sarah (née Hall; 1909–2000), was the daughter of architect Emery Stanford Hall and his wife Clara Louise Adams, and was of English origin, originally of Salford, Lancashire, that dated back to the Mayflower.Replies: @Anonymous, @englishmike, @Gunnar von Cowtown
Since some Mexicans are entirely White-most Spaniards, but a few Poles, Czechs and Germans and a smattering of Mennonites-“Mexican” descent is absolute proof of nothing.
Bach to me seems entirely white whereas Welch looks a little, but very little mestiza. I’d categorize the (once) very fine singers Linda Ronstadt and Vikki Carr as “light mestizas”. I’d be the first to say my eye for these things is not world class, though.
That's what I thought, à la Ghostbusters, which was mostly embarrassingly dumb, though it had a lot of talent: onto the outrageous fantasy of the original, you tack on the improbability of misfit women scientists and engineers acting like tough first responders, assisted by a wimpy and stupid but cute Thor -- well, I gave it points for chutzpah anyway!
So I expected Wonder Woman to be bad, for PC reasons and due to superhero fatigue: Doctor Strange ok, but Deadpool and that other "bad superheroes" film terrible in my book. So I was surprised to find Wonder Woman very, very enjoyable. Gal Gadot is luminous and works well with Chris Pine. Dialogue is sometimes very funny, action scenes are pretty cool (despite implausibility of those amazons as tough warriors at the start). And the message is not as dumb and tedious and childish as other superhero films: war is terrible, humans suck, grand principles fail, but humans are also capable of love and heroism and worth saving. And yes you can be a hot woman and still stand up for yourself and be admired not just for your hotness. Gal Gadot's military and Israeli background may have helped make the movie more realistic: who you gonna believe about war: Gal Gadot or Scarlett Johansson?Replies: @syonredux, @Bob Smith of Suburbia
To heck with all that, all I want to know is, How many of them eee-vil Naht-zees did she kill?
Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Johanus de Morgateroyde, @Lot, @Patrick Harris, @syonredux, @Art Deco, @biz, @Anonym, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @oddsbodkins, @Malcolm X-Lax, @MSP, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Danindc, @AnotherDad
Who her? No, she’s ugly.
Despite having spent much of my life obsessed with Star Trek, I don't even know how many Abrams movies there have been. I saw the first two when they came out. I have a vague impression that Beyond is the third one, and that a fourth one - Discovery, is it? - will be coming out in the next few years.
I saw Into Darkness in the theater and found it so disappointing - a fourth-rate rehash of The Wrath of Khan, only marginally better than the fifth-rate TWoK retread that was Nemesis - that I vowed to boycott all upcoming Abrams flicks. I haven't seen one of his movies since.
Of course, I could easily answer all of these questions by doing a Google search, or even by paying a bit more attention to the news, but I don't want to know. I don't want to think about the soulless Hollywood machine and its never-ending assembly line of remakes.
Is there a man alive who has never seen any of the Harry Potter movies, any of the Lord of the Rings movies, or any of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies? Is there anyone in this world who has never seen *any* of them? There's at least one man who hasn't - me.
(Before everyone starts freaking out, let me say that I'm not conflating J.R.R. Tolkien with J.K. Rowling; I'm merely pointing to two enormously-lucrative movie franchises that I know nothing about. I have no interest in fantasy movies.)
The other day, I was thinking of a movie to watch, and the title that popped into my head was King Vidor's The Fountainhead (1949). I really dig that movie - and I'm no Randite, believe me. It's one of the best bad movies ever made. You have a character who tosses a statue out of a window because she doesn't like humanity and a character who blows up a humanitarian housing project because he doesn't like the statuary. Vidor's Code-approved depictions of rape and suicide are simplistic, even laughable, but surprisingly effective. The over-the-top phallic imagery - icy heiress Patricia Neal fantasizes about stone-cold quarry worker (and architect) Gary Cooper's long, hard drill - is only icing on the cake.
There will never be another movie like Vidor's Fountainhead. Oh, there'll be another movie with the same name and the same basic plot someday, but it won't have Cooper's wooden line deliveries, or Neal's ridiculously-overwrought facial expressions, or that crazy set design, or that insistent score, or that luscious black-and-white German Expressionist cinematography. (If it's anything like the low-budget Atlas Shrugged adaptation that came out a few years ago, it'll be a total borefest.)
If you know how much I like The Fountainhead, then you might be surprised to learn that at times I like Commando (1985), starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, even more.
There'll never be another movie like Commando. Oh, there'll be another similarly-silly action movie full of cheesy one-liners, but the humor will be a little too self-conscious to give off the same vibe. They'll probably make all of the villains white. If they do cast a white guy as the heroic lead, he'll probably be a Brit, and he'll likely affect a technically-flawless but vaguely-unconvincing American accent. They might cast an Aussie on the villain, but he won't have a mustache, and he won't be wearing a ridiculous Freddie Mercury getup, complete with leather pants and a chain-mail vest. But even if they decide to match all of the elements, find an Austrian bodybuilder with a thick-enough accent to play John Matrix, and do a shot-by-shot, word-for-word, R-rated remake, it won't be as good (meaning bad). The zeitgeist will see to that.
There aren't that many shot-by-shot remakes that we can use as examples of the effect of the zeitgeist, but there are a few. Gus Van Sant's Psycho (1998) is so startlingly different from - and inferior to - the 1960 Hitchcock film that it seems a crime that the two should bear the same name. The many (mostly) identical elements shared by the two films serve only to highlight the deficiencies of the newer movie's cast and crew, to say nothing of its director.
One of the most glaring examples is that, in 1960, we don't hear the sounds of Anthony Perkins abusing himself as he watches Janet Leigh undress through a crack in the wall. In 1998, we hear Vince Vaughn fapping to Anne Heche, and an ostensibly-creepy scene becomes so silly that it fails even as inadvertent comedy.
Van Sant doesn't seem to grasp that Norman Bates is an honest-to-God prude who would rather murder the object of his desire than admit his arousal. He wouldn't dream of touching himself. He's a Freudian archetype. He and Mother have a warped semi-sexual relationship. When he finds himself aroused by a living, breathing woman, Mother gets jealous and eliminates the competition.
(Of course, in the 2017 TV series, Norman Bates is a closet case who ends up sleeping with another man. How surprising.)
In 1960, when the actress playing Mrs. Chambers tells us that Norman found his mother and her lover dead together "in bed," she whispers the last two words as if they're some deep, dark secret to which the audience is becoming privy. (At that time, sex was not something that was discussed in polite company, and even a discreet, roundabout mention of it was seen as somewhat scandalous.) This adds to the characterization of a very minor character - it shows us that she's a gossip. (A certain kind of woman - an older busybody type - has always enjoyed whispering about other people's dirty little secrets.) In 1998, the actress says the words flatly, and makes no impression at all.
When we first see the 1960-model Mrs. Bates in all her glory, her hair is combed in such a way that it conceals the fact that she's a skeleton until the last possible moment. In 1998, we see the bones several seconds before the skull face finishes its slow 360-degree turn toward the camera, spoiling the supposed surprise. And unlike Vera Miles, Julianne Moore can't scream to save her life.
Psycho '98 is so inept that it pales in comparison even next to drek like The Silence of the Hams (1994), a staggeringly-incompetent Naked Gun-type "comedy" that borrows most of its major plot points from Hitchcock's classic. (The rest are taken from a certain well-known thriller starring Jodie Foster. Incidentally, the main character in Hams is named Jo Dee Fostar. The movie is that bad, and that dumb.)
I wonder if, two or three decades from now, I'll find myself listening to a bad-movie lover lamenting the fact that he's too young to remember the good old days when stuff like [crappy boring remake] was being made.
"Twenty-seventeen must have been such an interesting time to be alive," he'll say. "Why couldn't I have been born in, say, 1998, so I could have been old enough to enjoy all of that stuff when it was fresh and exciting and new? Why did I have to be born in 2019?"
"Kid," I'll respond in my crusty-old-curmudgeon voice, "that crap was old and tired and laughable at the time it was made. Even then, we were complaining about everything."
We'll see.Replies: @guest, @Anonymous, @Bob Smith of Suburbia, @Kylie
‘Commando’ is an unintentional comedy masterpiece. Literally one of the funniest movies ever made. Also, as it turns out, one of the gayest.
Google “Ruthless Reviews Commando”. Some funny shit.
https://twitter.com/WomenintheWorld/status/845266457525039104Replies: @Hyperborean
How much of this is merely retroactively justifying their own laziness/lack of beauty?
“Don’t shave your armpits”, “Don’t shame fat girls”, ” Etc.
Which one do you think is supposed to be the lesbian?
> probably replaced by mindless feminist you-go-grrrl!-ism
More like harmless, humorous, and old-fashioned pro-woman jabs like this one:
Anyone who has been or who knows a secretary will at least giggle at that one.
Why do the White female heroines of the “girls kick ass” movies typically have long hair, large breasts, wide hips, and a wide space between their legs? In other words, they are “hot” … very “hot”. They are a metaphor for all things feminine that can beat all things masculine at its own game.
We all know that the Wondrous Women of movie and comic book fame are counter-factual fantasies. Yet, young women today dig them. They are fantasies of being something physically and emotionally other than what they are in Nature’s binary universe. They are a form of self-hate. It would be like males reveling in fantasies of keeping house and nursing babies in the nursery.
White males are getting the message. Data from dating sites show that White males are increasingly interested in Hispanic and Asian women. The PEW Foundation reports that marriage rates among Whites are at historic lows. It attributes this to relatively low economic opportunities for Millennials, with a negative impact on family formation. False! That did not stop the Baby Boomers from marrying when they had little or nothing. Two married and living together can live more cheaply than maintaining two separate households.
Today’s young White males should copy Trump and engage in extreme vetting before marrying someone who might turn to be a rapid feminist fantasizing and/or calculating ways to “kiss ass” among the males in her life.
The “Wonder Woman” fantasies are yet more evidence of a sick, anti-natalist culture racing to the precipice like lemmings bent on self-destruction.
There’s no such thing as a “semite” so it is a pointless question. There are Semitic languages, which are spoken by people ranging from Ethiopia to Malta, but hopefully nobody is blind enough to consider all of those people some one ethnicity.
“What makes someone a Semite”, you ask?
A: A mommy Semite and a daddy Semite. In fact, it’s Semites all the way down.
As for Hercules' great-grandmother being the Ethiopian princess Andromeda, that doesn't seem to have influenced how the Greeks and the Romans depicted him:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heracles#/media/File:Hercules_Farnese_3637104088_9c95d7fe3c_b.jpg
Looks quite European to me.....Replies: @Romanian
Maybe the supposed ancestors could have been leuko-ethiopians, which was apparently a thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aethiopians
People generally forget that, before the outward expansion of the Europeans throughout the world, there was also a massive contraction, in a few phases. Think of the Arabs overrunning the Middle East and Christian North Africa and, later, the Turkic conquest of Anatolia.
Or the displacement of many tribes, including the classical Bulgarians, from Central Asia, under pressure from Asiatic migratory peoples. Or their destruction.
These are paradigm changes that ripple onwards in time. The final cleansing of the Christian (and the most European) elements of Turkey and the Middle East took place in the early 20th century and is now undergoing a mopping up operation. Consider Lebanon’s demographic transformation based on the inflow of outsiders and, now, the fertility differentials.
So, there were once White (ish?) Africans in Ethiopia and now the have been subsumed by another race or simply lost their former countenance because of selection. What will Turkey look like in a few hundred years? Or Eastern Europe, given the gypsy element? Or Western Europe.
It depends.
current breakdown at Harvard.
28% Jews, North Africans, Arabs, Middle Eastern and Persian.
22% Asian
21% White
13% Black
12% Hispanic
3% Native American (probably mostly whites like Sen. Warren)
probably many Jews will not self identify as being MENA. most Half Asians will identify as White when they apply to Harvard. I know a Korean adoptee who attended Penn, she identified as White to increase her chances of being accepted, and it workedReplies: @Art Deco
current breakdown at Harvard. 28% Jews, North Africans, Arabs, Middle Eastern and Persian.
Unless 20% of the student body is Arab or Iranian, no.
of the 42% who identified as atheists, 30% were ethnic Jews. Confirms the estimate that 25% of the Harvard graduating class is ethnically Jewish.A. Lawrence Lowell, Harvard's president from 1909-1933, attempted to limit the number of Jewish students admitted to the university. Lowell wanted to cap Harvard's Jewish population at 15% of the student body. The size of the Jewish student body had quickly risen from 7% of freshmen in 1900 to 15% in 1915, 22% in 1922, and 28% in 1925. thus they began restriction jews in the 1930s until the 1950s. But by 1986 Jews were 30% of the students at Yale and 28% of the students attending Harvard. http://www.nytimes.com/1986/03/04/nyregion/yale-s-limit-on-jewish-enrollment-lasted-until-early-1960-s-book-says.htmlReplies: @syonredux
So Ashkenazis are 40% non-European? I would call that a significant amount of foreign DNA.
Today's Arabs have considerable African admixture from all the slave women. The original population of the area probably looked more like Bashar Assad - in other words "white". The real mutants are people with blonde hair in adulthood. Light skin is a common adaptation for northern latitudes and people with light skin often have light hair as infants but it usually darkens in adulthood. Blonde hair was probably some kind of sexual selection evolutionary "trick" to make females look younger than they really were. Blonde hair is something that is confined to one corner of Northern Europe - even most Europeans don't have it. Even most Nazis didn't have it.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
Oh dear, that’s sad. Meredith Woerner yearns to beat up men and only a movie can give her that vicarious thrill. Women may wash out of Ranger school every time, a women’s Olympic soccer team may be beaten by high school boys, and women MMA fighters may be beaten up by men (who believe they are women), but at least with the magic of special effects and often stuntMEN, women can kick ass in the movies.
This discussion seems to have veered away from talking about the movie and toward discussions of who is and is not Jewish and whether or not Jews should be considered White (Caucasian) and which Jewish or part-Jewish actress is prettiest.
That being the case, maybe you folks can help me out with something.
Most of the articles I read on the internet, when they deal with matters of race, refer to people as being white or black or yellow or brown. Other than using a Pantene scale, though, nobody seems to know exactly who should be considered a member of which race.
Alec Wek https://tinyurl.com/ydeej2yw is a very black model.
Iman https://tinyurl.com/yarsycrm is another black model, also from Africa but of lighter skin tone and a very Caucasian-style nose.
Halle Berry claims to be black (the “one drop” theory?) but she’s got a very light tan complexion, a very straight nose and (unless she’s big on wigs) does not sport the tightly curled hair associated with the stereotypical black woman.
This picture https://tinyurl.com/ybhm32eq I found by Googling “scandinavian blonde women”.
Somewhere out there — sorry, I couldn’t find it — is a picture series/album that some photographer put together of women all over the world. The various skin tones blend into each other, some have thin lips while others have thick ones, thin noses and flat noses…
In a world where people talk about religions (Jewish, most obviously) as though they were races and where it’s often impossible to tell one “race” from another what is a polite fellow to do? Especially since, in today’s world, it’s so easy for people to “take offense” over being mis-identified?
Here are an Indian woman (dot, not feather) https://tinyurl.com/y99tr8hs , a Brazilian woman https://tinyurl.com/ycu8txks , and an Asian woman https://tinyurl.com/y7stoeqv .
Help a guy out?
Regardless, you should ask Potter Stewart.Replies: @RedHeadedStranger
One must be quite obtuse to label a woman who is evidently at least half White as "an Asian woman."Replies: @RedHeadedStranger
The good folks on this board can narrow it down a bit, and tell you if you're Nordid, Dalo-Faelid, Atlantid, Baltid, Borreby, Brunn, Mediterranid, or whatever:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?25-Taxonomy
Note that I'm not endorsing the site. I don't post there myself. But it is interesting to read through some of the threads.
Superhero comics have always been half-assed quasi-Marxist and Freudian propaganda put out by Jews.
In the “good old days” of 1941, Captain America was a white man who was developed into a “superhero” because Adolf Hitler – The Most Evil Man Who Ever Lived – was trying to take over the planet and enslave all of humanity with the help of Stygian figures representative of necrosis and human sadism like the Red Skull.
“Superman” was a hokey, buffoonish creation – presented as a misunderstood, but eminently superior, alien specimen who hailed from a planet where everybody coincidentally had a Hebraic name. A nice Jewish gentleman created the character, so as to convey to silly goy slobs that they should get beyond their natural jealousies and accept their basic moral and mental and physical inferiorities in the face of the Alien interlopers who are their natural betters.
Batman was portrayed as an adult man who dresses up in what can only be described as leather fetish outfits and hangs around a catamite “boy wonder” who never leaves his side.
We don’t even need to get into the retro torture-porn chic that was the output of EC Comics to recognize what this medium always represented at the popular cultural/mass distribution level.
Superhero comics are 1) Jewish 2) Gay 3) Basically steeped in Communist moral metaphors. Yeah, that’s interesting to note – it’s also been the case for about a century.
My daddy always said, "Never sleep with anyone crazier than you are". I would still be a virgin had I followed Dad's advice.Replies: @Brutusale, @Moshe
Did your dad want you to exclusively fuck straight men?
That being the case, maybe you folks can help me out with something.
Most of the articles I read on the internet, when they deal with matters of race, refer to people as being white or black or yellow or brown. Other than using a Pantene scale, though, nobody seems to know exactly who should be considered a member of which race.
Alec Wek https://tinyurl.com/ydeej2yw is a very black model.
Iman https://tinyurl.com/yarsycrm is another black model, also from Africa but of lighter skin tone and a very Caucasian-style nose.
Halle Berry claims to be black (the "one drop" theory?) but she's got a very light tan complexion, a very straight nose and (unless she's big on wigs) does not sport the tightly curled hair associated with the stereotypical black woman.
This picture https://tinyurl.com/ybhm32eq I found by Googling "scandinavian blonde women".
Somewhere out there -- sorry, I couldn't find it -- is a picture series/album that some photographer put together of women all over the world. The various skin tones blend into each other, some have thin lips while others have thick ones, thin noses and flat noses...
In a world where people talk about religions (Jewish, most obviously) as though they were races and where it's often impossible to tell one "race" from another what is a polite fellow to do? Especially since, in today's world, it's so easy for people to "take offense" over being mis-identified?
Here are an Indian woman (dot, not feather) https://tinyurl.com/y99tr8hs , a Brazilian woman https://tinyurl.com/ycu8txks , and an Asian woman https://tinyurl.com/y7stoeqv .
Help a guy out?Replies: @The Z Blog, @üeljang, @Stan Adams
I’m not sure which would be worse for you. Is it that you think this line of attack is original or that you think anyone will fall for it?
Regardless, you should ask Potter Stewart.
That being the case, maybe you folks can help me out with something.
Most of the articles I read on the internet, when they deal with matters of race, refer to people as being white or black or yellow or brown. Other than using a Pantene scale, though, nobody seems to know exactly who should be considered a member of which race.
Alec Wek https://tinyurl.com/ydeej2yw is a very black model.
Iman https://tinyurl.com/yarsycrm is another black model, also from Africa but of lighter skin tone and a very Caucasian-style nose.
Halle Berry claims to be black (the "one drop" theory?) but she's got a very light tan complexion, a very straight nose and (unless she's big on wigs) does not sport the tightly curled hair associated with the stereotypical black woman.
This picture https://tinyurl.com/ybhm32eq I found by Googling "scandinavian blonde women".
Somewhere out there -- sorry, I couldn't find it -- is a picture series/album that some photographer put together of women all over the world. The various skin tones blend into each other, some have thin lips while others have thick ones, thin noses and flat noses...
In a world where people talk about religions (Jewish, most obviously) as though they were races and where it's often impossible to tell one "race" from another what is a polite fellow to do? Especially since, in today's world, it's so easy for people to "take offense" over being mis-identified?
Here are an Indian woman (dot, not feather) https://tinyurl.com/y99tr8hs , a Brazilian woman https://tinyurl.com/ycu8txks , and an Asian woman https://tinyurl.com/y7stoeqv .
Help a guy out?Replies: @The Z Blog, @üeljang, @Stan Adams
“Here are an Indian woman (dot, not feather) https://tinyurl.com/y99tr8hs , a Brazilian woman https://tinyurl.com/ycu8txks , and an Asian woman https://tinyurl.com/y7stoeqv .”
One must be quite obtuse to label a woman who is evidently at least half White as “an Asian woman.”
I don’t care at all for any discussion from either side about who is “white” or not so I won’t comment to that but I believe that though the Romans DID take Jewish slaves from Israel (Jvdea) and elsewhere in the aftermath of the 3 revolts (including pulmos kitos – war of quietus) the Roman world was already full of Jews in good standing. Also, 66 wasn’t the first revolt either and there are some great Latin passages about (for another time).
Also the converso intermarriage with royalty wasn’t as commonplace and ubiquitous as is commonly believed. There was, as well, a big difference between conversos in 1391 and convwrsos in 1492 and 1496.
International Honorary White Jew. Only 'cos you're a jolly nice fellow. :)Replies: @International Jew
I don’t think I like that “compliment”. If your idea of “white” means northwest European then I’m not that and don’t particularly wish to be. But I don’t see that as a sensible definition. You surely don’t want to define yourself apart from the ancient Greeks and Romans.
It wouldn’t have worked on my 18-year-old self; the instructor could be teaching me how to strip my rifle but my mind would be undressing her.
“they weren’t Greek”
The issue is the ancient Hellenic world not modern Greece. Hellene in English is usually used to mean an ancient Greek. But as far as I know, most of the areas Jews lived in were ‘Hellenized’ by Alexander or earlier and stayed that way until the Turkic and Arab expansions.
FWIW modern Greece does not use the word to describe themselves, they use the term Hellenic.
It is also not clear what ancient peoples actually looked like. Brunette is genetically dominant, but ancient peoples lived in such isolated clusters maybe they had very different looks.
This was discussed on iSteve last month: https://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-butt-kicking-babe-movies-empower-young-girls/#comment-1866364
But given the overall tone of this thread this seems worth including: http://comicsalliance.com/golden-age-wonder-woman-kink-gallery/
Traditionally, yes, they are in fact.
Judah Benjamin was also Secy’y of War and, later, Sec’y of State under Jeff Davis. Vey!
The Israeli girl is pretty nice looking tbh. Not a knockout but a healthy-looking broad. I think she did some kind of military service.
Do the Israelis fetishize their military women? U.S. servicewomen look like dogs generally. Maybe it is because the Israelis have mandatory service, I believe, so even the good looking girls put on the uniform. Whereas over here the US servicewomen pool is rather..... Sapphic. Or do the Israeli men just go in for the whole lady-in-uniform BDSM vibe, a lá Ilsa SheWolf of the SS? How does this square with some people's claims that the Jews aren't attracted to their own women?Replies: @J.Ross, @J.Ross, @International Jew, @Moshe, @englishmike
When I lived in Israel it was as an American and I was not in the army. I could have been but I was terrified of losing some kind of celestial battle and ending up as a jobnik rather than working intelligence or infantry.
Anyhow, I, and my foreign colleagues who actually were in uniform, found the Israeli soldier girls breathtaking. It almost looked like they were ALL literally stunning, which obviously could not have been the case.
I never quite analyzed it but I guess it has to do with the fact that they’re all physically fit and that being in the army doesn’t detract from their femininity because ALL girls are in the army, so their self confidence doesn’t effect their natural submissveness to men.
Or something like that.
As for American women in the army. Yes, most look like dogs but not all.
I —-
Oh no, I was about to mention a girl I knew going into the marines when I worked near 29 palms but I looked her name up and—- either it’s not her (it’s been a decade) of maybe women don’t improve with age.
Okay!
Next topic.
I can guess at one element in play and can speak more personally to another.
My guess is that back in the immigrant days shiksas who could afford the lifestyle and makeup to look pretty looked better than Jewish washerwomen and also promised a better life, obviously enhancing their prettiness.
The same is true in the chassidic world today although their fantasy is for a modern orthodox or non orthodox jewish woman, for the same reason.
One I can speak to more personally is that, on average, Jewish women can be more of an emotional handful than non-jewish women. I don’t know how much of this is cultural and how much is genetic, but American Jewish women, JAPs, can be difficult. At least for Jews.
As for general attractiveness, I can only speak for myself. I find good-looking Jewish girls far far cuter than good-looking non Jewish girls.
Obviously this only relates to the respective good looking ones in each category, but I have no interest in “hot” girls as conpared with “cute” ones.
The former look like manly sluts to me and the latter like smiley cuddly feminine beauties.
The whole blond and tall thing is probably for the sort of men who take pride in their penis size (a concept I first heard of about ten years ago and sincerely thought it was a female-created joke until really recently) and who enjoy waking up to creatures with a square jaw and cold eyes while the latter is for men who enjoy being funny and playing around and want to wake up to a light brown haired girl-looking-girl with curves and with less than 4 feet of washboard abs between their upper curves and lower ones.
The ideal of course is a Non-Jap with these physical attributes.
Thankfully in America they are fairly common, although the grotesque bleached blonde thing self-selects a number from circulation.
I think in Bonfire of the Vanities there was a Jewish junior prosecutor who was ashamed of how his wife had morphed into a plump shtetl babushka once she had kids. The converse is McCoy's blonde shiksa wife who starved herself of all fats and became a social x-ray, I believe. It's funny how they are, presumably, morally much better than the most beautiful woman in the book, Sherman's despicable mistress. My idea is that once a woman has a passel of kids, she has some excuse for not being in the beat shape.
From archaeological evidence that 1/5th of those buried with weapons were women, the likely origin of the legend of the Amazons was the Scythian or Sarmatian peoples who were originally of the northern coast of the Black Sea and the steppes and river valleys north of that latitude, descended from the Kurgan (Yamna and Maykop peoples), proto- Indo-Europeans of the same area, particularly the Northern Caucasus, the most likely inventors of the wheel and domesticators of the horse, whose descendants later conquered everything from Mongolia to France (indeed, the Sicambrian Franks who founded France were Scythians by their own account, which is backed by the similarity of the gold work, for instance in the Merovingian and Bactrian hoards.)
The purest descendants of the Scythians today are the Ossetians of the northern Caucasus (e.g. Beslan, where their children were massacred at school by Chechen terrorists). Nearly a third of Ossetians still follow their ancient pagan religion, Uatsdin. Their closest cousins are the Alans (Alani in the Roman chronicles, a form of the word “Aryan”, also the origin of the name “Alan”), who settled mostly in Armorica (Brittany, France) and the Jasz, who have lived in Hungary since they arrived with the Mongol invasion.
Guessing that the “merchant quibbling” gene structure also expresses as the “whiny” phenotype.
Yes Jews have got one big thing to be sore about–the Holocaust. But they’ll find everything and anything–e.g. the golfocaust–to whine about.
Jews are obviously over-represented in front of the camera as well as behind. Just not at the crazy levels of writers or studio execs. Which of course makes sense because Hollywood’s Jews are making movies and TV for America’s gentiles so they don’t go with–obvious (explicitly Jewish phenotype)–Jews 24x7x365. That’s called “business”. But if say a 98% gentile nation has say 90% gentile actors … you’ll have some Jews–especially Jewish women–readily available to whine about it. It’s in the DNA.
Hedy Lamarr invented frequency hopping in the same way that those black lady mathematicians sent us to the moon. She had an idea for how to do it and worked with a guy who actually had some training and what they came up with was to use the mechanism from a player piano – actually 2 of them. Both the transmitter and the receiver would have to be perfectly synched at the beginning and stay in synch for this to work – any drift and they would be tuned to different frequencies and stop talking to each other. Their “invention” led to zero real world products. When real frequency hopping was perfected decades later it was electronic and had nothing to do with their crude mechanical approach.
So they implemented it themselves, and now their chips (or chips using the technology they developed) are in every cellular modem on the planet.
This business that so-and-such female or brown person invented thus-and-so because they once mentioned it as a cool idea is as valid as the contention that Edgar Rice Burroughs invented the means to travel to Mars or Jules Verne invented modern nuclear submarines. It's baloney. Mind you, great artists and authors, especially those who know what they are talking about, such as Heinlein and Asimov did, can indeed serve as catalysts and visionaries whose ideas advance the state of the art, but let's not confuse them with the guys who actually realise those visions.Replies: @Kylie
Gal Gadot is not pretty. Gadot might have got the Wonder Woman role because she is an Israeli.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Johanus de Morgateroyde, @Lot, @Patrick Harris, @syonredux, @Art Deco, @biz, @Anonym, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @oddsbodkins, @Malcolm X-Lax, @MSP, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Danindc, @AnotherDad
Gal Gadot:
Pretty — Yes
Cute — Yes
Womanly figure — No
Boyish figure — A bit. But no boys are built like that.
Feminine — Definitely
MILF — Absolutely
Makes Another Dad’s eugenic propagation list — Yes
Gives a flying rat’s ass what any of us think — No
Status — Laughing all the way to the bank.
This talk of lady soldiers hearkens back to the Nietzsche thread. He recognized how cruel women can be. Even crueler than men, at least in a moral sense. A great play that is proto-Nietzschean and aware of the feminine nature of cruelty and madness is the Bacchae by Euripides:
“They did attack our herds: you could have seen a woman pull a calf to pieces as it bellowed alive in her bare hands!”Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
“Even crueler than men, at least in a moral sense.”
It’s a pity Kipling’s poems aren’t taught in schools any more. “The Female Of The Species”, “The Vampyre”, “Gods Of The Copybook Headings” and “The Stranger Within My Gate” are almost the complete guide – and warning – to the way we live now.
The Stranger
The Stranger within my gate,
He may be true or kind,
But he does not talk my talk--
I cannot feel his mind.
I see the face and the eyes and the mouth,
But not the soul behind.
The men of my own stock,
They may do ill or well,
But they tell the lies I am wanted to,
They are used to the lies I tell;
And we do not need interpreters
When we go to buy or sell.
The Stranger within my gates,
He may be evil or good,
But I cannot tell what powers control--
What reasons sway his mood;
Nor when the Gods of his far-off land
Shall repossess his blood.
The men of my own stock,
Bitter bad they may be,
But, at least, they hear the things I hear,
And see the things I see;
And whatever I think of them and their likes
They think of the likes of me.
This was my father's belief
And this is also mine:
Let the corn be all one sheaf--
And the grapes be all one vine,
Ere our children's teeth are set on edge
By bitter bread and wine.
https://twitter.com/RealLyndaCarter/status/834780320708837377Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Rifleman, @Neoconned, @Father O'Hara, @William Badwhite, @Robert Dunn
The Germans were the bad guys even though it was about WW1….
If i were German id boycott it
The acting was contrived and like i figuref it was going to be terrible.
DCs problem is that unlike Marvel most of its characters age terribly.
W the exception of Batman, Supe and maybe Green Lantern & a few of their minor characters like Lobo they dont have good characters
But they are from Asia.
*Square jaw, protruding forehead, bump in nose, high flat cheekbones, big mouth, noticeable lack of daintiness. And that's just the face.Replies: @Opinionator, @AnotherGuessModel, @Truth, @TWS, @Hippopotamusdrome
… sharp knees. 2/10 would not bang.
And of course, Lynda Carter in her prime would hands down, completely outshines Katherine Hepburn in the looks department. Hands down, dear fellow, hands down. Hepburn couldn’t have played such a demanding role as Wonder Woman, while Eva Gardner could have played the role without any noticeable problems.
Lynda Carter was bona fide beautiful. She had it all. Looks, class, (was originally a high fashion model), simply amazing.
Carter’s contemporary, Jacklyn Smith, also could’ve played Wonder Woman. She was thinking man’s Angel from Charlie’s Angel. Although hailing from Texas, Miss. Smith was never said to have been part Mexican (or Hispanic for that matter).
The nose.
Ah, but the real question regarding Lovelace and Hopper is, were either of these ladies outwardly beautiful? One truism tends to hold that the smarter the woman, the uglier they tend to be (e.g. Jane Austen’s Pride and Prejudice, Mary, the frumpy semi-ugly duckling of the five Bennett sisters, knowing she can’t compete with her far fairer sisters, decides to concentrate on her smarts and thus possible land a husband).
Remember, keep the focus on the original point of the article, and that is, could these real life geniuses play Wonder Woman from a physical standpoint?
Christy Brinkley, looks fabulous for her age (early 60’s), simply fabulous. When Kate was 60, she played Eleanor of Aquataine, exactly why? For her time, the historical Eleanor was beautiful, so typecasting clearly, clearly, was in vogue. The real Eleanor of Aquataine wasn’t old enough to have been Henry II’s mother, per Hepburn and O’Toole.
Dreadful casting, just dreadful.
And as an old Jewish colleague of mine used to say, “Jews look like where they come from.”
Thanks Syonredux.
This link is actually more interesting than the Jewish “we’re not ‘white’ we’re the oppressed” and Jewish women whining about “standards of beauty”. Both well trod ground.
The interesting thing to me was this woman saying she was “in tears” during some of the Wonder Woman fight scenes. It was cathartic for her–apparently she’d been waiting all her life to see woman warriors, competently slaying on the battlefield. And that her reaction was common–the director had heard it many times before and was unsurprised.
This struck me as a bit weird because the “butt kicking babes” are seriously a trope. They seem to show up everywhere now days. And not just in zones of complete suspension of disbelief, but in places that are at least superficially are supposed to be normal TV/movie “reality”. For me many times it’s just so ridiculous it jerks me out of routine TV/movie suspension of disbelief
and wrecks the show. (Wonder Woman is better because she is at least a super-hero with super-powers, not some actual normal human 120 lb. woman dispatching 200 lb. tough guys.)
I think American (and European) life has become so feminized, and so devoid of not just violence, but actual hard heavy physical labor that a lot of women are just completely ignorant of brute physical reality. A lot of women seem truly ignorant of how utterly weak and fragile they are compared to even average men. I’m pretty much dead on average American guy–height, size (a bit more upper body per my size, a bit less leg)–and now even as a geezer I almost never see any woman I couldn’t quickly subdue. (Ok, now I see some really fat ones that probably geezer me couldn’t move after knocking them out.) Young guys who are actually tough and strong? There are no women who would even be in a “fight” with them, they’d just be on the floor unconscious. But apparently a lot of women don’t realize the extreme extent of sexual dimorphism on strength. I guess their boyfriends/husbands have never handled them physically–even just to toss ’em over their shoulder and carry ’em off to bed?
And what’s weird to me is this intense desire to see this female warrior–a complete fantasy of a competent ass-kicking female warrior. I get the interest in what the other sex can do. When AnotherMom was pregnant–belly bulging out incredibly–I had
a) a sense of pride in my manhood, that i’d knocked her up and my baby was growing inside her
but even more profoundly
b) a sense of wonder at life, at her feminine power, to receive my joy juice, combine with it, and bake it into a beautiful baby inside her.
But what I didn’t feel was jealously. That I was cheated as a guy because I couldn’t grow a baby myself. Or later, that she had a more intense bond with the kids through pregnancy and nursing. I was grateful–to God, to life, to her–to be a dad, did my dad thing, appreciated it, loved it.
These women of the West today are nuts. They downplay, dismiss and many forego the one thing they can do not just “much better” than men, but that men can’t do at all. And pine for these bizarre fantasies where they are supreme at doing things that men are so thoroughly superior at that women aren’t even in the same universe. It’s insanity. And it’s part of what’s killing the West.
It's a pity Kipling's poems aren't taught in schools any more. "The Female Of The Species", "The Vampyre", "Gods Of The Copybook Headings" and "The Stranger Within My Gate" are almost the complete guide - and warning - to the way we live now.Replies: @syonredux
Indeed. If schoolboys had to memorize “The Stranger,” immigration policy would be rather different:
The Stranger
The Stranger within my gate,
He may be true or kind,
But he does not talk my talk–
I cannot feel his mind.
I see the face and the eyes and the mouth,
But not the soul behind.
The men of my own stock,
They may do ill or well,
But they tell the lies I am wanted to,
They are used to the lies I tell;
And we do not need interpreters
When we go to buy or sell.
The Stranger within my gates,
He may be evil or good,
But I cannot tell what powers control–
What reasons sway his mood;
Nor when the Gods of his far-off land
Shall repossess his blood.
The men of my own stock,
Bitter bad they may be,
But, at least, they hear the things I hear,
And see the things I see;
And whatever I think of them and their likes
They think of the likes of me.
This was my father’s belief
And this is also mine:
Let the corn be all one sheaf–
And the grapes be all one vine,
Ere our children’s teeth are set on edge
By bitter bread and wine.
Pretty -- Yes
Cute -- Yes
Womanly figure -- No
Boyish figure -- A bit. But no boys are built like that.
Feminine -- Definitely
MILF -- Absolutely
Makes Another Dad's eugenic propagation list -- Yes
Gives a flying rat's ass what any of us think -- No
Status -- Laughing all the way to the bank.Replies: @Jack D, @guest
It seems to me that the beauty standard of some men around here is sort of fixated at the 13 year old boy or caveman level – they like women with really big chests. Anything less than 36D is some kind of Jewish conspiracy to make us all gay. Look at classical sculptures of Venus – the ideal of feminine beauty does not involve really big melons.
I would trust the 13 year-old perspective on this issue, by the way. Presuming they've reached puberty and aren't still in the coodies phase. Which isn't to say there's no refinement to be done on basic animal attraction when setting up standards of beauty. But let us not pretend we're talking about sunsets or what-have-you. Feminine and masculine beauty are founded in sex, and that is founded deep within the brain.
You're never going to convince regular people men who look like women and women who look like men are the best-looking men and women. But propaganda can get you a long way, and people can become mightily confused. Not so much 13 year-olds who haven't yet had their natural instincts sufficiently suppressed.
Every supermodel ever has told stories about how they were the ugly duckling in junior high and high school, and the way these stories are told to us, it's like we're not supposed to believe them. Either that, or we're supposed to think it was an injustice. But I've always found adolescence to be unusually just on this issue. And that's coming from someone who had an awkward puberty. I have no trouble believing the stories. Because they're often ugly and freakish now, or at least below the feminine ideal, so why not back then? And the 13 year-olds were more honest for pointing it out, as opposed to the general public who pretends people like Gisele Brady and Cindy Crawford are beautiful.
(There have been suggestions that these models might have been late bloomers, but that's not the case. Because they never bloom, first of all. Also, because they usually were quick growers, which is why they get picked to be models when they're 16 or whatever. Because scouts look out for beanpole 16 year-olds.)
That being said, I find classical Venuses to be more attractive than Gal Gadot.
If i were German id boycott it
The acting was contrived and like i figuref it was going to be terrible.
DCs problem is that unlike Marvel most of its characters age terribly.
W the exception of Batman, Supe and maybe Green Lantern & a few of their minor characters like Lobo they dont have good charactersReplies: @Jack D
I hate to break this to you, but the Germans WERE the bad guys in WWI too.
The Germans were the most aggressive in bringing on the war, but all these folks contributed with massive, arrogant, clueless misbehavior.
This isn't the place for a big "Great War" debate, but one idea I want to push out to my fellow Americans, is that they are steeped in the Anglo-Saxon perspective and a lot of "Great War" thinking is retconned the (real) World War. And because of this I think we miss an important piece of the puzzle:
A big part of what led to the 20th century wars was British and French imperialism. These nations had essentially "sewn up" a good portion of the world, locking out the commercial interests of other nations. And this system had no good way to accommodate a rising Germany.
I'd argue--a counter factual--that if the world system had been the open free trade system that America imposed after the War--which widened with decolonization--then a rising Germany's interests would have been accommodated without war. These wars were essentially the Germans--late to the nationalist party--attempt to get out of a "junior" role and push aside its bossy older brothers, who'd already grabbed up all the goodies.
Phoebe Cates is a close second.
Her father is of English and Scots-Irish ancestry, and her mother, whose family hailed from Mexico, is of Mexican, Spanish and French descentOr for that matter what about Catherine Bach from The Dukes of Hazzard.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_BachBach was born in Warren, Ohio, the daughter of Norma Jean Kucera (née Verdugo), an acupuncturist, and Bernard Bachman, a rancher. Her mother was of Mexican descent and her father was of German ancestry.Or Raquel Welch? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raquel_WelchWelch was born as Jo-Raquel Tejada on September 5, 1940 in Chicago, Illinois.Her father, Armando Carlos Tejada Urquizo (1911–1976), was an aeronautical engineer from La Paz, Bolivia, born to Agustin Tejada and Raquel Urquizo; Welch was named after her paternal grandmother.Her mother, Josephine Sarah (née Hall; 1909–2000), was the daughter of architect Emery Stanford Hall and his wife Clara Louise Adams, and was of English origin, originally of Salford, Lancashire, that dated back to the Mayflower.Replies: @Anonymous, @englishmike, @Gunnar von Cowtown
I’m afraid you rather lost me at the end. Who, or what, “dated back to the Mayflower”?
In the “good old days” of 1941, Captain America was a white man who was developed into a “superhero” because Adolf Hitler – The Most Evil Man Who Ever Lived – was trying to take over the planet and enslave all of humanity with the help of Stygian figures representative of necrosis and human sadism like the Red Skull.
“Superman” was a hokey, buffoonish creation – presented as a misunderstood, but eminently superior, alien specimen who hailed from a planet where everybody coincidentally had a Hebraic name. A nice Jewish gentleman created the character, so as to convey to silly goy slobs that they should get beyond their natural jealousies and accept their basic moral and mental and physical inferiorities in the face of the Alien interlopers who are their natural betters.
Batman was portrayed as an adult man who dresses up in what can only be described as leather fetish outfits and hangs around a catamite “boy wonder” who never leaves his side.
We don’t even need to get into the retro torture-porn chic that was the output of EC Comics to recognize what this medium always represented at the popular cultural/mass distribution level.
Superhero comics are 1) Jewish 2) Gay 3) Basically steeped in Communist moral metaphors. Yeah, that’s interesting to note – it’s also been the case for about a century.Replies: @syonredux
Superman is Philip Wylie’s Gladiator (the basic power-set: super stength, speed, bullet-proof skin, etc), plus elements from Edgar Rice Burroughs’ John Carter (travelling to another planet makes you more powerful) and Tarzan (alien raised by another species).
Despite having spent much of my life obsessed with Star Trek, I don't even know how many Abrams movies there have been. I saw the first two when they came out. I have a vague impression that Beyond is the third one, and that a fourth one - Discovery, is it? - will be coming out in the next few years.
I saw Into Darkness in the theater and found it so disappointing - a fourth-rate rehash of The Wrath of Khan, only marginally better than the fifth-rate TWoK retread that was Nemesis - that I vowed to boycott all upcoming Abrams flicks. I haven't seen one of his movies since.
Of course, I could easily answer all of these questions by doing a Google search, or even by paying a bit more attention to the news, but I don't want to know. I don't want to think about the soulless Hollywood machine and its never-ending assembly line of remakes.
Is there a man alive who has never seen any of the Harry Potter movies, any of the Lord of the Rings movies, or any of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies? Is there anyone in this world who has never seen *any* of them? There's at least one man who hasn't - me.
(Before everyone starts freaking out, let me say that I'm not conflating J.R.R. Tolkien with J.K. Rowling; I'm merely pointing to two enormously-lucrative movie franchises that I know nothing about. I have no interest in fantasy movies.)
The other day, I was thinking of a movie to watch, and the title that popped into my head was King Vidor's The Fountainhead (1949). I really dig that movie - and I'm no Randite, believe me. It's one of the best bad movies ever made. You have a character who tosses a statue out of a window because she doesn't like humanity and a character who blows up a humanitarian housing project because he doesn't like the statuary. Vidor's Code-approved depictions of rape and suicide are simplistic, even laughable, but surprisingly effective. The over-the-top phallic imagery - icy heiress Patricia Neal fantasizes about stone-cold quarry worker (and architect) Gary Cooper's long, hard drill - is only icing on the cake.
There will never be another movie like Vidor's Fountainhead. Oh, there'll be another movie with the same name and the same basic plot someday, but it won't have Cooper's wooden line deliveries, or Neal's ridiculously-overwrought facial expressions, or that crazy set design, or that insistent score, or that luscious black-and-white German Expressionist cinematography. (If it's anything like the low-budget Atlas Shrugged adaptation that came out a few years ago, it'll be a total borefest.)
If you know how much I like The Fountainhead, then you might be surprised to learn that at times I like Commando (1985), starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, even more.
There'll never be another movie like Commando. Oh, there'll be another similarly-silly action movie full of cheesy one-liners, but the humor will be a little too self-conscious to give off the same vibe. They'll probably make all of the villains white. If they do cast a white guy as the heroic lead, he'll probably be a Brit, and he'll likely affect a technically-flawless but vaguely-unconvincing American accent. They might cast an Aussie on the villain, but he won't have a mustache, and he won't be wearing a ridiculous Freddie Mercury getup, complete with leather pants and a chain-mail vest. But even if they decide to match all of the elements, find an Austrian bodybuilder with a thick-enough accent to play John Matrix, and do a shot-by-shot, word-for-word, R-rated remake, it won't be as good (meaning bad). The zeitgeist will see to that.
There aren't that many shot-by-shot remakes that we can use as examples of the effect of the zeitgeist, but there are a few. Gus Van Sant's Psycho (1998) is so startlingly different from - and inferior to - the 1960 Hitchcock film that it seems a crime that the two should bear the same name. The many (mostly) identical elements shared by the two films serve only to highlight the deficiencies of the newer movie's cast and crew, to say nothing of its director.
One of the most glaring examples is that, in 1960, we don't hear the sounds of Anthony Perkins abusing himself as he watches Janet Leigh undress through a crack in the wall. In 1998, we hear Vince Vaughn fapping to Anne Heche, and an ostensibly-creepy scene becomes so silly that it fails even as inadvertent comedy.
Van Sant doesn't seem to grasp that Norman Bates is an honest-to-God prude who would rather murder the object of his desire than admit his arousal. He wouldn't dream of touching himself. He's a Freudian archetype. He and Mother have a warped semi-sexual relationship. When he finds himself aroused by a living, breathing woman, Mother gets jealous and eliminates the competition.
(Of course, in the 2017 TV series, Norman Bates is a closet case who ends up sleeping with another man. How surprising.)
In 1960, when the actress playing Mrs. Chambers tells us that Norman found his mother and her lover dead together "in bed," she whispers the last two words as if they're some deep, dark secret to which the audience is becoming privy. (At that time, sex was not something that was discussed in polite company, and even a discreet, roundabout mention of it was seen as somewhat scandalous.) This adds to the characterization of a very minor character - it shows us that she's a gossip. (A certain kind of woman - an older busybody type - has always enjoyed whispering about other people's dirty little secrets.) In 1998, the actress says the words flatly, and makes no impression at all.
When we first see the 1960-model Mrs. Bates in all her glory, her hair is combed in such a way that it conceals the fact that she's a skeleton until the last possible moment. In 1998, we see the bones several seconds before the skull face finishes its slow 360-degree turn toward the camera, spoiling the supposed surprise. And unlike Vera Miles, Julianne Moore can't scream to save her life.
Psycho '98 is so inept that it pales in comparison even next to drek like The Silence of the Hams (1994), a staggeringly-incompetent Naked Gun-type "comedy" that borrows most of its major plot points from Hitchcock's classic. (The rest are taken from a certain well-known thriller starring Jodie Foster. Incidentally, the main character in Hams is named Jo Dee Fostar. The movie is that bad, and that dumb.)
I wonder if, two or three decades from now, I'll find myself listening to a bad-movie lover lamenting the fact that he's too young to remember the good old days when stuff like [crappy boring remake] was being made.
"Twenty-seventeen must have been such an interesting time to be alive," he'll say. "Why couldn't I have been born in, say, 1998, so I could have been old enough to enjoy all of that stuff when it was fresh and exciting and new? Why did I have to be born in 2019?"
"Kid," I'll respond in my crusty-old-curmudgeon voice, "that crap was old and tired and laughable at the time it was made. Even then, we were complaining about everything."
We'll see.Replies: @guest, @Anonymous, @Bob Smith of Suburbia, @Kylie
“Is there a man alive who has never seen any of the Harry Potter movies, any of the Lord of the Rings movies, or any of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies? Is there anyone in this world who has never seen *any* of them? There’s at least one man who hasn’t – me.”
And at least one woman–me.
Yes Jews have got one big thing to be sore about--the Holocaust. But they'll find everything and anything--e.g. the golfocaust--to whine about.
Jews are obviously over-represented in front of the camera as well as behind. Just not at the crazy levels of writers or studio execs. Which of course makes sense because Hollywood's Jews are making movies and TV for America's gentiles so they don't go with--obvious (explicitly Jewish phenotype)--Jews 24x7x365. That's called "business". But if say a 98% gentile nation has say 90% gentile actors ... you'll have some Jews--especially Jewish women--readily available to whine about it. It's in the DNA.Replies: @Jack D
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
Not that foreign. Europeans and Middle Easterners are very closely related.
Perhaps relevant: The ubiquitous Jewish women around here in the NYC metro area use a lot of blonde hair coloring. That is to say, their expensive, gay hairdressers use it on them.
Trying to look like somebody else?
Well, every girl does that, but an awful lot of this type here are trying their best to look like hot shiksas. Some succeed very well! One can’t complain.
Lots of plastic surgery too. Boob jobs and yoga pants abound…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Aethiopians
People generally forget that, before the outward expansion of the Europeans throughout the world, there was also a massive contraction, in a few phases. Think of the Arabs overrunning the Middle East and Christian North Africa and, later, the Turkic conquest of Anatolia.
Or the displacement of many tribes, including the classical Bulgarians, from Central Asia, under pressure from Asiatic migratory peoples. Or their destruction.
These are paradigm changes that ripple onwards in time. The final cleansing of the Christian (and the most European) elements of Turkey and the Middle East took place in the early 20th century and is now undergoing a mopping up operation. Consider Lebanon's demographic transformation based on the inflow of outsiders and, now, the fertility differentials.
So, there were once White (ish?) Africans in Ethiopia and now the have been subsumed by another race or simply lost their former countenance because of selection. What will Turkey look like in a few hundred years? Or Eastern Europe, given the gypsy element? Or Western Europe.Replies: @syonredux
Yeah. Here’s Snowden on the topic:
http://library.howard.edu/content.php?pid=554250
A: A mommy Semite and a daddy Semite. In fact, it's Semites all the way down.Replies: @syonredux
A linguist would say that a Semite is someone who speaks a Semitic language as his native tongue…
Bach to me seems entirely white whereas Welch looks a little, but very little mestiza. I'd categorize the (once) very fine singers Linda Ronstadt and Vikki Carr as "light mestizas". I'd be the first to say my eye for these things is not world class, though.Replies: @syonredux
Nah. To my eye, she looks like a mix of Northern and Southern European.
Her father is of English and Scots-Irish ancestry, and her mother, whose family hailed from Mexico, is of Mexican, Spanish and French descentOr for that matter what about Catherine Bach from The Dukes of Hazzard.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_BachBach was born in Warren, Ohio, the daughter of Norma Jean Kucera (née Verdugo), an acupuncturist, and Bernard Bachman, a rancher. Her mother was of Mexican descent and her father was of German ancestry.Or Raquel Welch? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raquel_WelchWelch was born as Jo-Raquel Tejada on September 5, 1940 in Chicago, Illinois.Her father, Armando Carlos Tejada Urquizo (1911–1976), was an aeronautical engineer from La Paz, Bolivia, born to Agustin Tejada and Raquel Urquizo; Welch was named after her paternal grandmother.Her mother, Josephine Sarah (née Hall; 1909–2000), was the daughter of architect Emery Stanford Hall and his wife Clara Louise Adams, and was of English origin, originally of Salford, Lancashire, that dated back to the Mayflower.Replies: @Anonymous, @englishmike, @Gunnar von Cowtown
Based on phenotype? Absolutely.
Based on genotype? White enough.
All three are cordially invited to reside in any future Hyperborean ethno-state over which I may rule. Just sayin’.
Jews have been in Europe longer than some of the local “European” populations that arrived from the east (Central Asia) after Roman times. White people are called “Caucasians” or “Aryans” – this refers to Asian lands that are further from Europe than Israel is.
Today’s Arabs have considerable African admixture from all the slave women. The original population of the area probably looked more like Bashar Assad – in other words “white”. The real mutants are people with blonde hair in adulthood. Light skin is a common adaptation for northern latitudes and people with light skin often have light hair as infants but it usually darkens in adulthood. Blonde hair was probably some kind of sexual selection evolutionary “trick” to make females look younger than they really were. Blonde hair is something that is confined to one corner of Northern Europe – even most Europeans don’t have it. Even most Nazis didn’t have it.
The Israeli girl is pretty nice looking tbh. Not a knockout but a healthy-looking broad. I think she did some kind of military service.
Do the Israelis fetishize their military women? U.S. servicewomen look like dogs generally. Maybe it is because the Israelis have mandatory service, I believe, so even the good looking girls put on the uniform. Whereas over here the US servicewomen pool is rather..... Sapphic. Or do the Israeli men just go in for the whole lady-in-uniform BDSM vibe, a lá Ilsa SheWolf of the SS? How does this square with some people's claims that the Jews aren't attracted to their own women?Replies: @J.Ross, @J.Ross, @International Jew, @Moshe, @englishmike
Sigmund Freud once told me that is because men are secretly attracted to something in a woman that reminds them of their mother. But in Jewish men this creates a cognitive dissonance that explains their susceptibility to neurosis. He wanted to call this the Portnoy Complex, but was anxious about being too far ahead of his time. You don’t believe me, do you?
Come to think of it, the first thing I did after seeing Thor (2011) was hit up IMDB.com to identify the sexy high-contrast brunette who played Natalie Portman’s quirky friend.
IIRC, during said bemoaning, she was practically knocking over set pieces with her cans.
***sigh***
Regardless, that sitcom she’s on now is terrible. I have a hard time looking away, but the writing is really, really bad.
I followed your advice. All I got was pics of Samuel Beckett and theatrical stuff.
You don’t believe me, do you?
Regardless, you should ask Potter Stewart.Replies: @RedHeadedStranger
It wasn’t a “line of attack” but an honest question. Sorry if you felt “triggered”. I’ll ask my question elsewhere, then. I just thought that since Steve has a reputation for being fact-based, I might get pointed in the right direction. Never mind, I’ll ask elsewhere. Enjoy your Intellectual Superiority.
You should try this out at Brietbart. There are people there more your speed.
One must be quite obtuse to label a woman who is evidently at least half White as "an Asian woman."Replies: @RedHeadedStranger
I got that picture by Googling “asian actresses”. It was one of six or seven and that’s the one I chose. Apparently I should have specified “racially pure”. My bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZNJgXcqSAgReplies: @guest
I would be surprised if she were a transsexual. What that guy’s noticing is not the Illuminati’s secret army of celebrity he-she’s. It’s higher culture preference for masculine-looking women.
Today's Arabs have considerable African admixture from all the slave women. The original population of the area probably looked more like Bashar Assad - in other words "white". The real mutants are people with blonde hair in adulthood. Light skin is a common adaptation for northern latitudes and people with light skin often have light hair as infants but it usually darkens in adulthood. Blonde hair was probably some kind of sexual selection evolutionary "trick" to make females look younger than they really were. Blonde hair is something that is confined to one corner of Northern Europe - even most Europeans don't have it. Even most Nazis didn't have it.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
If by “confined” you mean exclusive to, that’s a pretty big “corner.” If the maps below are at all accurate, there is significant blondness over a huge area from the British Isles and Scandinavia down through the Continental alpine regions and east to Russia.
In modern times, there are plenty of actual blond(e)s in continents that Northern Europeans colonized and settled.
http://imgur.com/gallery/5mnYzMf
http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/214-the-blonde-map-of-europe

Pretty -- Yes
Cute -- Yes
Womanly figure -- No
Boyish figure -- A bit. But no boys are built like that.
Feminine -- Definitely
MILF -- Absolutely
Makes Another Dad's eugenic propagation list -- Yes
Gives a flying rat's ass what any of us think -- No
Status -- Laughing all the way to the bank.Replies: @Jack D, @guest
“But no boys are built like that”
You miss the point. To say she’s boyish doesn’t mean she could actually pass for a boy. It means she looks like a boy compared to other full-grown women.
Gadot is more masculine than average for a female. That doesn’t mean she necessarily looks like a man, though individual features of hers may be mistaken for male in isolation. There are girls who deviate on the other side, as well. There’s such a thing as being too feminine; see the babyface phenomenon. The ideal is to have slightly above average femininity. Or masculinity, if you’re a man.
You and Jack are the ones who are confused--in your respective ways--about my response. And I don't think it's a failure in what I wrote. Gal's attractive, but has less feminine curvature--straighter mid-torso--than the norm: Frankly--being down here at the beach (well actually up this weekend visiting my boy in Savannah) AnotherMom's ideal not mine--any gal who is fit, not fat and without tats pretty much qualifies as "hot". It's a nightmare what modern young women have done to themselves.Replies: @guest, @guest, @guest
"Babyface" is not "feminine." This is a misunderstanding that I encounter too often these days to let pass without mention.
In an adult human (and any non-human ape as well), a large, broad, round, flattish face, such as is often called "babyface" in common parlance, is masculine (andromorphic).
Feminine features include:
*A relatively narrow lower face
*Low cheekbones (which contribute to the former)
*Large eyes, nose, and mouth relative to the total surface area of the face
*High color contrast
Low cheekbones, large eyes, and high color contrast might be features that are shared with a baby's face, but the overall shape and proportions of a baby's face are more similar to a masculine adult face than to a feminine adult face.Replies: @guest
She’s a bit lacking in the breasts department, which is a handicap when portraying Wonder Woman. And in other everyday situations.
You’ve set up a strawman. I, for one, did bring up breasts, but if you’ll look at my original beauty post I talked about nothing but her face. There hasn’t really been much boob talk on this thread, given the subject matter.
I would trust the 13 year-old perspective on this issue, by the way. Presuming they’ve reached puberty and aren’t still in the coodies phase. Which isn’t to say there’s no refinement to be done on basic animal attraction when setting up standards of beauty. But let us not pretend we’re talking about sunsets or what-have-you. Feminine and masculine beauty are founded in sex, and that is founded deep within the brain.
You’re never going to convince regular people men who look like women and women who look like men are the best-looking men and women. But propaganda can get you a long way, and people can become mightily confused. Not so much 13 year-olds who haven’t yet had their natural instincts sufficiently suppressed.
Every supermodel ever has told stories about how they were the ugly duckling in junior high and high school, and the way these stories are told to us, it’s like we’re not supposed to believe them. Either that, or we’re supposed to think it was an injustice. But I’ve always found adolescence to be unusually just on this issue. And that’s coming from someone who had an awkward puberty. I have no trouble believing the stories. Because they’re often ugly and freakish now, or at least below the feminine ideal, so why not back then? And the 13 year-olds were more honest for pointing it out, as opposed to the general public who pretends people like Gisele Brady and Cindy Crawford are beautiful.
(There have been suggestions that these models might have been late bloomers, but that’s not the case. Because they never bloom, first of all. Also, because they usually were quick growers, which is why they get picked to be models when they’re 16 or whatever. Because scouts look out for beanpole 16 year-olds.)
It appears that current-year Wonder Woman now officiates at same-sex weddings:
***sigh***
Regardless, that sitcom she's on now is terrible. I have a hard time looking away, but the writing is really, really bad.Replies: @Autochthon
Ain’t nobody watching that show for the writing…and the producers probably know it (“Why waste talented writers where they aren’t needed? Reassign those guys to shows with Lena Dunham; Kat Dennings has the ratings for her show locked in even for deaf people without closed captioning…”).
So being unattractive is now a stereotype? Figures. Worthless degrees lead to more ignorance than illiteracy apparently. There’s nothing more topical and current than a Wonder Woman movie where she’s fighting Germans, but in a strange twist its WWI. But even though she could go toe-to-toe with Superman in a fight, Wonder Woman can still use a man for a meaningless love affair that ends in tragedy. Fortunately, Wonder Woman was made in clay and brought to life by Zeus, so someday we may see a film that’s worth watching starring this character. Its making money though, cause this is Summer and the other films are dumber than this one.
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/I really don't know what more evidence one needs to show that jews are not white, if they don't see themselves as white, then how can one not accept this ? In the case of Gal Gadot, she certainly has Arabic features.Replies: @syonredux, @Lot, @Stealth, @International Jew, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Anon7, @Chris Mallory, @Jay Fink, @Right wing Jew, @Marcus, @Robert Dunn
I took my daughter to see it this morning. One thing I noticed, when before “Diana” took the mantle and when she was in her “secret identity”, her skin seemed to have much more of an olive tone. When she was in WW mode, her skin appeared, to me anyway, to be lighter.
Anyone cares to comment on General Erich von Ludendorff, the villain in this movie, who kicked allied ass on the real Eastern and Western Fronts for 4 years until his mental breakdown in Sep. 1918 and lost two stepsons in the war, unlike todays abhorrent presidential draft-dodgers and drone-kings. I’ d pay good money to watch a serious biopic about that guy!
Kat Dennings has an underwhelming to slightly off-putting face for my taste, but I too have been struck by the oddness of her status in Hollywood. Being in the “less attractive friend” role makes some sense, if she’s going to be a comedic actress, which I guess she is, and if she doesn’t look like a leading lady, which she doesn’t. (Notvthat what passes for a leading lady is up to traditional standards of beauty.) But they should at least acknowledge that she’s attractive, aside from joking about her oversized boobs.
Even when she played the romantic lead in one movie, she was stuck circling a definitely un-alpha loser and ended up with an at best middle of the roader. The whole time I’m thinking why aren’t more guys hitting on her? You can’t pass her off in the Kristen Stewart everygirl role.
The AT&T&A girl has been miscast, too. You can’t tell what kind of body she has in those commercials. I required a dozen viewings before I noticed her rack. Then I saw her in a primetime soap, and she was playing the geeky second-fiddle love interest. Why? At least on Silicon Valley she was a sexpot, though she was part of a weird Satanic church.
That being the case, maybe you folks can help me out with something.
Most of the articles I read on the internet, when they deal with matters of race, refer to people as being white or black or yellow or brown. Other than using a Pantene scale, though, nobody seems to know exactly who should be considered a member of which race.
Alec Wek https://tinyurl.com/ydeej2yw is a very black model.
Iman https://tinyurl.com/yarsycrm is another black model, also from Africa but of lighter skin tone and a very Caucasian-style nose.
Halle Berry claims to be black (the "one drop" theory?) but she's got a very light tan complexion, a very straight nose and (unless she's big on wigs) does not sport the tightly curled hair associated with the stereotypical black woman.
This picture https://tinyurl.com/ybhm32eq I found by Googling "scandinavian blonde women".
Somewhere out there -- sorry, I couldn't find it -- is a picture series/album that some photographer put together of women all over the world. The various skin tones blend into each other, some have thin lips while others have thick ones, thin noses and flat noses...
In a world where people talk about religions (Jewish, most obviously) as though they were races and where it's often impossible to tell one "race" from another what is a polite fellow to do? Especially since, in today's world, it's so easy for people to "take offense" over being mis-identified?
Here are an Indian woman (dot, not feather) https://tinyurl.com/y99tr8hs , a Brazilian woman https://tinyurl.com/ycu8txks , and an Asian woman https://tinyurl.com/y7stoeqv .
Help a guy out?Replies: @The Z Blog, @üeljang, @Stan Adams
“White” covers a lot of ground.
The good folks on this board can narrow it down a bit, and tell you if you’re Nordid, Dalo-Faelid, Atlantid, Baltid, Borreby, Brunn, Mediterranid, or whatever:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?25-Taxonomy
Note that I’m not endorsing the site. I don’t post there myself. But it is interesting to read through some of the threads.
While reasonably intelligent, more so than average really, Lamarr did not really “invent” frequency hopping-she along with many others imagined it, and she happened to be the one to file patent papers. Her actual scheme would never have really worked.
Otherwise perfectly legitimate inventions have had their patents minimized or invalidated based on “prior art” that consisted of passages in science fiction pulp novels, or in at least one case, MAD magazine.
This outfit can be – and something like it probably has been – patented. Those who think the patent is particularly significant are invited to test the invention for themselves. (When I taught, I used to keep a slew of preposterous patents on file to reinforce the point to my students, but I don't have any of them handy anymore.)Replies: @Karl
That’s how I put it, though maybe that’s not correct. I’m not an expert on nose shape. But as I said in another post, high fashion models are supposed to have both noses that stand out and deep indentations where the nose meets the brow.* This at least makes it appear as though they have bumps in the ridge of their noses.
Look at Gadot’s face in profile. You’ll see what I mean. If there’s a better term for it than a bump, I’ll gladly adopt it.
*Presumably because that’s how men’s faces work, and the fashion industry is run by homos. I can’t think of any other explanation.
Thank you for clarifying this point; Lamarr’s idea was brilliant and insightful, but I weary of those who conflate dreaming of an idea with implementing it (the latter is nearly always worlds of magnitude more difficult). Telecommunications is an area of my work, so these kinds of glosses in that context especially irk me; you want to cite geniuses of modern techniques, discuss code-division multiple access, Andrew Viterbi, Antonio Franklin, and Irwin Jacobs – nearly everyone laughed at these guys and their idea. The establishment assured all that CDMA was pysically and mathematically impossible.
So they implemented it themselves, and now their chips (or chips using the technology they developed) are in every cellular modem on the planet.
This business that so-and-such female or brown person invented thus-and-so because they once mentioned it as a cool idea is as valid as the contention that Edgar Rice Burroughs invented the means to travel to Mars or Jules Verne invented modern nuclear submarines. It’s baloney. Mind you, great artists and authors, especially those who know what they are talking about, such as Heinlein and Asimov did, can indeed serve as catalysts and visionaries whose ideas advance the state of the art, but let’s not confuse them with the guys who actually realise those visions.
If I were a more established commentor here, I would have LOL’d, because that’s what I did.
Anyhow, I, and my foreign colleagues who actually were in uniform, found the Israeli soldier girls breathtaking. It almost looked like they were ALL literally stunning, which obviously could not have been the case.
I never quite analyzed it but I guess it has to do with the fact that they're all physically fit and that being in the army doesn't detract from their femininity because ALL girls are in the army, so their self confidence doesn't effect their natural submissveness to men.
Or something like that.
As for American women in the army. Yes, most look like dogs but not all.
I ----
Oh no, I was about to mention a girl I knew going into the marines when I worked near 29 palms but I looked her name up and---- either it's not her (it's been a decade) of maybe women don't improve with age.
Okay!
Next topic. I can guess at one element in play and can speak more personally to another.
My guess is that back in the immigrant days shiksas who could afford the lifestyle and makeup to look pretty looked better than Jewish washerwomen and also promised a better life, obviously enhancing their prettiness.
The same is true in the chassidic world today although their fantasy is for a modern orthodox or non orthodox jewish woman, for the same reason.
One I can speak to more personally is that, on average, Jewish women can be more of an emotional handful than non-jewish women. I don't know how much of this is cultural and how much is genetic, but American Jewish women, JAPs, can be difficult. At least for Jews.
As for general attractiveness, I can only speak for myself. I find good-looking Jewish girls far far cuter than good-looking non Jewish girls.
Obviously this only relates to the respective good looking ones in each category, but I have no interest in "hot" girls as conpared with "cute" ones.
The former look like manly sluts to me and the latter like smiley cuddly feminine beauties.
The whole blond and tall thing is probably for the sort of men who take pride in their penis size (a concept I first heard of about ten years ago and sincerely thought it was a female-created joke until really recently) and who enjoy waking up to creatures with a square jaw and cold eyes while the latter is for men who enjoy being funny and playing around and want to wake up to a light brown haired girl-looking-girl with curves and with less than 4 feet of washboard abs between their upper curves and lower ones.
The ideal of course is a Non-Jap with these physical attributes.
Thankfully in America they are fairly common, although the grotesque bleached blonde thing self-selects a number from circulation.Replies: @Mikey Darmody, @Autochthon
That sounds like a fair assessment. To the degree it keeps them in shape, female military service is a positive.
I think in Bonfire of the Vanities there was a Jewish junior prosecutor who was ashamed of how his wife had morphed into a plump shtetl babushka once she had kids. The converse is McCoy’s blonde shiksa wife who starved herself of all fats and became a social x-ray, I believe. It’s funny how they are, presumably, morally much better than the most beautiful woman in the book, Sherman’s despicable mistress. My idea is that once a woman has a passel of kids, she has some excuse for not being in the beat shape.
Otherwise perfectly legitimate inventions have had their patents minimized or invalidated based on "prior art" that consisted of passages in science fiction pulp novels, or in at least one case, MAD magazine.Replies: @Autochthon
Thank you! I really wish we could get the public layman to understand that patenting an invention does not require that the invention actually function as it is speculated to in the patent, or that so much as even a prototype made with popsicle-sticks has ever been made.
This outfit can be – and something like it probably has been – patented. Those who think the patent is particularly significant are invited to test the invention for themselves. (When I taught, I used to keep a slew of preposterous patents on file to reinforce the point to my students, but I don’t have any of them handy anymore.)
Then enforcement of it as against an infringer will likely be denied, as his attorney will be able to show that the patent did not "teach" the invention, nor "show the best mode"Replies: @Autochthon
SJW complains about the dearth of Black people in Wonder Woman:
https://www.bustle.com/p/wonder-womans-feminism-is-strong-as-hell-but-its-not-intersectional-62798
Dunno about “filled.” From WIKIPEDIA:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_African_immigrants_in_London#World_War_I
So, by WW2, there were approx 20,000 Blacks living in Britain…..And Britain’s total population was 47,760,000…..20,000 out of 47,760,000 sounds pretty insignificant to me……
Haha words you will only hear in reference to novelists or nannies: “I prefer Englishwomen’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i574Em3IrIReplies: @Dave Pinsen
Making Captain America a song-and-dance man was a witty touch in that movie. I liked that part too. Actually, that movie wasn’t bad, but I lost interest after the first or second sequel. I was struck by the legions in the credits of that first Captain America movie — probably more people helped make that movie than planned the D-Day invasion.
It also seems cruel to make Chris Evans walk around at 6% body fat forever (even crueler to make the 48-year-old Hugh Jackman do it). For all the talk about female beauty standards in Hollywood, I bet no actress has a diet and exercise regime as harsh as Hugh Jackman’s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUfOcgr7OSIReplies: @Amasius
Unless 20% of the student body is Arab or Iranian, no.Replies: @Travis
25% of Harvard College students are Jewish. That number comes from the Hillel Foundation, the Jewish student organization.
Based on religious self identification of the 2016 class- 42% of surveyed seniors said they are agnostic or atheist, 18% Catholic, 15% Protestant, and 12% as Jewish.
of the 42% who identified as atheists, 30% were ethnic Jews. Confirms the estimate that 25% of the Harvard graduating class is ethnically Jewish.
A. Lawrence Lowell, Harvard’s president from 1909-1933, attempted to limit the number of Jewish students admitted to the university. Lowell wanted to cap Harvard’s Jewish population at 15% of the student body. The size of the Jewish student body had quickly risen from 7% of freshmen in 1900 to 15% in 1915, 22% in 1922, and 28% in 1925. thus they began restriction jews in the 1930s until the 1950s. But by 1986 Jews were 30% of the students at Yale and 28% of the students attending Harvard. http://www.nytimes.com/1986/03/04/nyregion/yale-s-limit-on-jewish-enrollment-lasted-until-early-1960-s-book-says.html
It also seems cruel to make Chris Evans walk around at 6% body fat forever (even crueler to make the 48-year-old Hugh Jackman do it). For all the talk about female beauty standards in Hollywood, I bet no actress has a diet and exercise regime as harsh as Hugh Jackman's.Replies: @syonredux
What Jackman does to his body is pretty horrifying. For example, the guy goes without water for nearly 48 hours prior to doing a shirtless scene:
Dunno about "filled." From WIKIPEDIA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_African_immigrants_in_London#World_War_I
So, by WW2, there were approx 20,000 Blacks living in Britain.....And Britain's total population was 47,760,000.....20,000 out of 47,760,000 sounds pretty insignificant to me......Replies: @Chris Mallory
Amazon land had several black females. I did notice at least one black male wearing an army uniform in one background scene. What I assume to be Sikhs or some other Sub-Continentals showed up in multiple crowd scenes, taking center screen for several seconds at the end of the movie, offering up prayers to what ever pagan demon they worship.
Anyhow, I, and my foreign colleagues who actually were in uniform, found the Israeli soldier girls breathtaking. It almost looked like they were ALL literally stunning, which obviously could not have been the case.
I never quite analyzed it but I guess it has to do with the fact that they're all physically fit and that being in the army doesn't detract from their femininity because ALL girls are in the army, so their self confidence doesn't effect their natural submissveness to men.
Or something like that.
As for American women in the army. Yes, most look like dogs but not all.
I ----
Oh no, I was about to mention a girl I knew going into the marines when I worked near 29 palms but I looked her name up and---- either it's not her (it's been a decade) of maybe women don't improve with age.
Okay!
Next topic. I can guess at one element in play and can speak more personally to another.
My guess is that back in the immigrant days shiksas who could afford the lifestyle and makeup to look pretty looked better than Jewish washerwomen and also promised a better life, obviously enhancing their prettiness.
The same is true in the chassidic world today although their fantasy is for a modern orthodox or non orthodox jewish woman, for the same reason.
One I can speak to more personally is that, on average, Jewish women can be more of an emotional handful than non-jewish women. I don't know how much of this is cultural and how much is genetic, but American Jewish women, JAPs, can be difficult. At least for Jews.
As for general attractiveness, I can only speak for myself. I find good-looking Jewish girls far far cuter than good-looking non Jewish girls.
Obviously this only relates to the respective good looking ones in each category, but I have no interest in "hot" girls as conpared with "cute" ones.
The former look like manly sluts to me and the latter like smiley cuddly feminine beauties.
The whole blond and tall thing is probably for the sort of men who take pride in their penis size (a concept I first heard of about ten years ago and sincerely thought it was a female-created joke until really recently) and who enjoy waking up to creatures with a square jaw and cold eyes while the latter is for men who enjoy being funny and playing around and want to wake up to a light brown haired girl-looking-girl with curves and with less than 4 feet of washboard abs between their upper curves and lower ones.
The ideal of course is a Non-Jap with these physical attributes.
Thankfully in America they are fairly common, although the grotesque bleached blonde thing self-selects a number from circulation.Replies: @Mikey Darmody, @Autochthon
There is much wisdom in this perspective. Sadly, the cute women are gravitating toward being mousy, tubby slobs with all kinds of irrational rage at men who aren’t interested in that kind of mate; their ultimate fate is too often now to become crazed cat-ladies or lesbians of opportunity. Meanwhile, the hot ones are doubling down as manly sluts and rather than being content to wed a dashing, handsome physician or captain of industry, they insist on bedding several such men on heavy rotation until they become haggish, then they repeat the whole affair with lesser, younger, less choosy men as so-called cougars before retiring to their own fates as bitter harridans.
OTEMPORAOMORES
Then nobody’s Wonder Woman.
To me, The Incredibles is the best superhero movie ever. I say it should have won Best Picture in 2004.
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/I really don't know what more evidence one needs to show that jews are not white, if they don't see themselves as white, then how can one not accept this ? In the case of Gal Gadot, she certainly has Arabic features.Replies: @syonredux, @Lot, @Stealth, @International Jew, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Anon7, @Chris Mallory, @Jay Fink, @Right wing Jew, @Marcus, @Robert Dunn
I am only one individual and perhaps I don’t speak for all Jews but I was very much raised to think of myself as white. The whole idea of not being white would seem crazy to any of my relatives.
(1) whether a person in general feels sympathetic toward Jews
(2) whether a person in general feels sympathetic toward whites.
The more the person's view of whites and of Jews is similar, the more he will think of Jews as a subset of whites.
White nationalists who see Jews as the prime enemy will see them as non-white, as will Jews who adopt SJW stands on privilege, but who see Jews as an oppressed group rather than a "privileged" group. White nationalists who lack antipathy toward Jews (e.g. Jared Taylor) are much more likely to see Jews as fellow whites, as do Jews who support white nationalism (e.g. Nicholas Stix). At the same time, SJWs who support BDS and who see Israel as an apartheid state (and who see that as a bad thing to be) tend to think of Jews as another privileged group of whites.Replies: @Jay Fink
They couldn’t get away with pushing the idea that average men should pair up with homely women if men didn’t go along with it….but do they ever.
Black Panther trailer reveals the futurist wonders of Wakanda
BTW, at 1:18 in the trailer, there's a scene of a small black boy walking up the stairs and his father seems to put his hand on his back and hurry him along. Tennessee Coates reference?Replies: @syonredux
It was depressing to see how bad Fisher looked in the ripoff (the first new one). I haven't seen the newest new film - J.J. has made two so far, right?
Fisher had an amusing cameo in Scream 3 as someone who looked an awful lot like ... Carrie Fisher.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kdKjQgUVDaIReplies: @Stan Adams, @MEH 0910
J.J. Abrams has only made one (thank the Maker!). Rian Johnson has directed the next one coming out.
of the 42% who identified as atheists, 30% were ethnic Jews. Confirms the estimate that 25% of the Harvard graduating class is ethnically Jewish.A. Lawrence Lowell, Harvard's president from 1909-1933, attempted to limit the number of Jewish students admitted to the university. Lowell wanted to cap Harvard's Jewish population at 15% of the student body. The size of the Jewish student body had quickly risen from 7% of freshmen in 1900 to 15% in 1915, 22% in 1922, and 28% in 1925. thus they began restriction jews in the 1930s until the 1950s. But by 1986 Jews were 30% of the students at Yale and 28% of the students attending Harvard. http://www.nytimes.com/1986/03/04/nyregion/yale-s-limit-on-jewish-enrollment-lasted-until-early-1960-s-book-says.htmlReplies: @syonredux
Should be borne in mind that Hillel pads out its numbers by counting people who are 25-50% Jewish in terms of ancestry. I had a friend who was affiliated with Hillel, and he told me that he was certain that Hillel counted me as Jewish (WASP father, Ashkenazi mother) when I was at Berkeley.
the more "jews" they "need to serve", the more money they can get from the Major League Professional Jew national entities.
to understand anything american jews do.... follow the money.
I ==tried== explaining to the Stormfronters that folks who major in Sociology or Progressive Journalism, are way too lazy to DeepStateOrganize any race-replacement campaigns.
I don't think they believed me.
Half-Jewish people who are the children or grandchildren of either a Jewish father or a Jewish mother, and who identify as Jews, may make aliyah to Israel under the Law of Return and become Israeli citizens. They will receive help from the Israeli government. Thus even Israel grants full status and citizenship to half jews as being treated as fully Jewish under judea religious law
if Harvard continues to count those who are Half black and 1/16 Black as being African America it would be logical to count half jews as Jewish just as half Cuban students are counted as Hispanic and even those who claim to be 1/32 Indian are counted as Native American. The majority of the Blacks at Harvard are actually mulattoes, as are their Black profs.Replies: @Anonymous
294 SyonRedux > Hillel pads out its numbers by counting people who are 25-50% Jewish in terms of ancestry
the more “jews” they “need to serve”, the more money they can get from the Major League Professional Jew national entities.
to understand anything american jews do…. follow the money.
I ==tried== explaining to the Stormfronters that folks who major in Sociology or Progressive Journalism, are way too lazy to DeepStateOrganize any race-replacement campaigns.
I don’t think they believed me.
This outfit can be – and something like it probably has been – patented. Those who think the patent is particularly significant are invited to test the invention for themselves. (When I taught, I used to keep a slew of preposterous patents on file to reinforce the point to my students, but I don't have any of them handy anymore.)Replies: @Karl
281 authochthon > does not require that the invention actually function as it is speculated to in the patent
Then enforcement of it as against an infringer will likely be denied, as his attorney will be able to show that the patent did not “teach” the invention, nor “show the best mode”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxWvtMOGAhwReplies: @syonredux, @Harry Baldwin, @Hippopotamusdrome
As you might expect, the Black reaction is calm and dignified:
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/06/09/the-explosive-first-trailer-for-black-panther-is-here
I thought Lauren Bacall was Jewish…
As almost everything human males consider "attractive" is some kind of signal of fertility or fecundity, one suspects that she radiates "attractiveness" in the form of "health" and "symmetric features" to such a high degree that she reduces most men she meets to fidgeting and babbling in her presence.Replies: @guest, @fish, @Marty, @San Fernando Curt, @SteveRogers42
And not just men.
But Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman was much more feminine than feminist. She looked like she never touched a dumbbell. And how many times did some bad guy get the drop on her with chloroform?Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy, @SteveRogers42
I think that if someone is playing the role of an action hero, to say nothing of an out-and-out superhuman, they should look like they could do something more athletic than tearing open a bag of Cheetos. Back in the day, Olympic swimmer Amanda Beard would have been physically convincing in the part. She had big blue eyes that put her waaayyy up on the Hot/Crazy matrix, and the physique of, well, an Olympic swimmer.
Did someone say “Paradise Island”?
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/inside-skirt-club-hollywood-new-yorks-high-glamour-sex-party-women-1010607
Hedy Lamarr did a lot more than those black lady mathematicians, and is not in the same class, even if the extent of her own contribution is vastly exaggerated. She not only showed intellectual creativity and originality in solving a difficult weapons systems technical problem well outside her field of expertise by coming up with an insightful idea that later proved to be very powerful, she showed initiative in partnering with George Antheil and building a workable mechanical prototype, and she actually registered patents.
Sure, the story is made out to be that Hedy Lamarr invented modern FHSS and practically invented cell phones. It’s understandably human to exaggerate the story that way—she was darn good looking.
But it is also quite unfair to her to compare her to non-entity computational clerks who were merely grinding though numerical methods of approximation to get solutions to differential equations for orbital mechanics that had been known since the time of Newton.
I bet Hedy Lamarr had at least 20 IQ points on any of those NASA clerks.
In fairness to them, many of those men have no choice, as the alternative is involuntary celibacy because of the serial harem (with the most physically attractive ten per cent or so of males monopolising the most physically attractive thirty or forty – maybe even fifty – per cent or so of females), an effect enabled by modern societal mores which do not restrain female hypergamy via enforced monogamy….
I was just thinking that this guy would make a good IRL Doc Savage, except he’s probably a little short for the role:
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/kim-j.pdf
SEAL (Silver Star), M.D., Astronaut. Probably speaks a couple languages, too.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/doc-savage-film-dwayne-johnson-898220Replies: @SteveRogers42
It had its moments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxWvtMOGAhwReplies: @syonredux, @Harry Baldwin, @Hippopotamusdrome
If only there was a place on earth like Wakanda, where blacks displayed what everyone tells us is their true potential, it would be such a relief for white people. It would give us hope that’s there’s light at the end of the racial tunnel. Too bad it exists only in Hollywood fantasies. We wish it were real. Blacks think it’s our greatest fear when it’s actually one of our fondest hopes
BTW, at 1:18 in the trailer, there’s a scene of a small black boy walking up the stairs and his father seems to put his hand on his back and hurry him along. Tennessee Coates reference?
My Jewish feminist past-her-prime spinster sister-in-law is desperate to have us go see Wonder Woman with her. We’re not really that keen. I suspect it’s a manifestation of her hysterical Trump hate. At this time, more than any other, she needs to revel in the screen heroics of an ass-kicking female. Wonder Woman wouldn’t let Donald Trump grab her pussy–she’d kick his ass! Wonder Woman wouldn’t let Donald Trump tell her she had to lose the 40 pounds she’d put on since becoming Miss Universe–she’d kick his ass! Wonder Woman wouldn’t let Donald Trump stand in the way of her becoming America’s first female president–she’d kick his ass! Wonder Woman wouldn’t let Donald Trump stay president after America’s women marched on Washington to protest his inauguration–she’d kick his ass!
The sisterhood has suffered many humiliating setbacks in the past year, and Wonder Woman has come out at just the right time for a cathartic wallow in ass-kicking grrl power!
C’mon–gotta be Jocko Willink!
By the way, how did Jocko ever swim? He looks like he's got the body density of concrete.
I would be in favor of carving another category if SJWs want it so badly. But in reality they will not allow it, cause overnight it will become too obvious that “white privilege” is a hoax. And non-jewish non-hispanic whites are underrepresented in prestigious universities, cinematography, positions of power etc, etc.
Gee, Whites, even including Jews, already underrepresented at major tech companies (at Google –
57%, Microsoft – 54.2%, Facebook – 48%, Apples – 56% and just 46% of new hires) compared to their share of the US population (62%, ~68% of working-age population). Where is the outcry? Where are the scholarships? Where are HRs giving bonuses for hiring underrepresented whites? Ooops, I forgot that it doesn’t fit the narrative.
Whites already underrepresented among prestigious Ivy League universities. Columbia University diversity statistics:
Whites 38%, Asian – 27%, African American – 14%, Latino – 15%, Native American – 4%.
Pick one category that is most underrepresented hence, according to SWJs dictionary, oppressed. Yep, that’s right. Whites are the most underrepresented group even when Jews are counted with Whites. And if you exclude Jews share of Whites will plunge even further, so it will become too obvious that “ominous white privilege” is an outright lie.
This link is actually more interesting than the Jewish "we're not 'white' we're the oppressed" and Jewish women whining about "standards of beauty". Both well trod ground.
The interesting thing to me was this woman saying she was "in tears" during some of the Wonder Woman fight scenes. It was cathartic for her--apparently she'd been waiting all her life to see woman warriors, competently slaying on the battlefield. And that her reaction was common--the director had heard it many times before and was unsurprised.
This struck me as a bit weird because the "butt kicking babes" are seriously a trope. They seem to show up everywhere now days. And not just in zones of complete suspension of disbelief, but in places that are at least superficially are supposed to be normal TV/movie "reality". For me many times it's just so ridiculous it jerks me out of routine TV/movie suspension of disbelief
and wrecks the show. (Wonder Woman is better because she is at least a super-hero with super-powers, not some actual normal human 120 lb. woman dispatching 200 lb. tough guys.)
I think American (and European) life has become so feminized, and so devoid of not just violence, but actual hard heavy physical labor that a lot of women are just completely ignorant of brute physical reality. A lot of women seem truly ignorant of how utterly weak and fragile they are compared to even average men. I'm pretty much dead on average American guy--height, size (a bit more upper body per my size, a bit less leg)--and now even as a geezer I almost never see any woman I couldn't quickly subdue. (Ok, now I see some really fat ones that probably geezer me couldn't move after knocking them out.) Young guys who are actually tough and strong? There are no women who would even be in a "fight" with them, they'd just be on the floor unconscious. But apparently a lot of women don't realize the extreme extent of sexual dimorphism on strength. I guess their boyfriends/husbands have never handled them physically--even just to toss 'em over their shoulder and carry 'em off to bed?
And what's weird to me is this intense desire to see this female warrior--a complete fantasy of a competent ass-kicking female warrior. I get the interest in what the other sex can do. When AnotherMom was pregnant--belly bulging out incredibly--I had
a) a sense of pride in my manhood, that i'd knocked her up and my baby was growing inside her
but even more profoundly
b) a sense of wonder at life, at her feminine power, to receive my joy juice, combine with it, and bake it into a beautiful baby inside her.
But what I didn't feel was jealously. That I was cheated as a guy because I couldn't grow a baby myself. Or later, that she had a more intense bond with the kids through pregnancy and nursing. I was grateful--to God, to life, to her--to be a dad, did my dad thing, appreciated it, loved it.
These women of the West today are nuts. They downplay, dismiss and many forego the one thing they can do not just "much better" than men, but that men can't do at all. And pine for these bizarre fantasies where they are supreme at doing things that men are so thoroughly superior at that women aren't even in the same universe. It's insanity. And it's part of what's killing the West.Replies: @SteveRogers42, @PiltdownMan
It’s hard to find the video now, but about 5 years ago, Douglas Kennedy got into a contretemps with a couple of female nurses when he was carrying his newborn child into an unauthorized part of the hospital. As I recall the video, a couple of these Avengin’ Amazons came barreling up to him in the doorway of an elevator, and began grabbing and slapping at him, trying to..pull the child out of his hands…or deconstruct the patriarchy…or… something. While holding the baby in one arm, Kennedy dropped one of these Fightin’ Furies with a knee strike to the gut, and took the other to the ground with a one-handed arm twist. You could almost see the thought balloons form over the nurses’ heads as they experienced a moderate amount of male force for the first time in their empowered lives. (Kennedy is a medium-sized fellow whose athletic background probably tends toward tennis and sailing, yet he tossed these delusional dames around in true comic-book fashion.)
BTW, at 1:18 in the trailer, there's a scene of a small black boy walking up the stairs and his father seems to put his hand on his back and hurry him along. Tennessee Coates reference?Replies: @syonredux
Traditionally, fantasy mirrored reality.For example, Tony (Iron Man) Stark was a comic book version of real world Anglo technologists, Edison in superhero guise. But SJWs believe in magical thinking. Reality reflects fantasy. Make a movie that features a highly advanced Black African country and Hey!Presto! it will appear in the real world.We just have to dream it, and it will come…..
Shane Black’s signed on to direct a Doc Savage movie with Dwayne Johnson as Doc:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/doc-savage-film-dwayne-johnson-898220
True, probably 20% of the Jews at Harvard are only half Jewish. My best friend was considered jewish by the Jews because his mother was Jewish even though he was never circumcised. He dated an orthodox Jew in high school, her mother would not allow her to date gentiles but she was allowed to date him because his mother was Jewish. Israel will also accept half jews as jews
Half-Jewish people who are the children or grandchildren of either a Jewish father or a Jewish mother, and who identify as Jews, may make aliyah to Israel under the Law of Return and become Israeli citizens. They will receive help from the Israeli government. Thus even Israel grants full status and citizenship to half jews as being treated as fully Jewish under judea religious law
if Harvard continues to count those who are Half black and 1/16 Black as being African America it would be logical to count half jews as Jewish just as half Cuban students are counted as Hispanic and even those who claim to be 1/32 Indian are counted as Native American. The majority of the Blacks at Harvard are actually mulattoes, as are their Black profs.
One is a Jew if one's mother is a Jewess in good standing, and one has not willfully converted to another religion. (Even at that they can be sort of tolerant as long as the other religion isn't Christianity, it seems.) OR if one has made a valid Orthodox conversion.
Any rabbis out there to correct or add to that??
Good catch! Maybe a composite: Jocko sure looks the part, but Jonny Kim’s got the big brain.
By the way, how did Jocko ever swim? He looks like he’s got the body density of concrete.
http://cityandshorebucket.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/amandasept2015a.jpgReplies: @Steve Sailer, @syonredux
MMA fighter Rhonda Rousey wanted the role of Wonder Woman. Unfortunately, she can’t act. But maybe they could have done some kind of Bill Bixby / Lou Ferrigno thing.
http://blogdesuperheroes.es/wp-content/plugins/BdSGallery/BdSGaleria/30100.jpg
This link is actually more interesting than the Jewish "we're not 'white' we're the oppressed" and Jewish women whining about "standards of beauty". Both well trod ground.
The interesting thing to me was this woman saying she was "in tears" during some of the Wonder Woman fight scenes. It was cathartic for her--apparently she'd been waiting all her life to see woman warriors, competently slaying on the battlefield. And that her reaction was common--the director had heard it many times before and was unsurprised.
This struck me as a bit weird because the "butt kicking babes" are seriously a trope. They seem to show up everywhere now days. And not just in zones of complete suspension of disbelief, but in places that are at least superficially are supposed to be normal TV/movie "reality". For me many times it's just so ridiculous it jerks me out of routine TV/movie suspension of disbelief
and wrecks the show. (Wonder Woman is better because she is at least a super-hero with super-powers, not some actual normal human 120 lb. woman dispatching 200 lb. tough guys.)
I think American (and European) life has become so feminized, and so devoid of not just violence, but actual hard heavy physical labor that a lot of women are just completely ignorant of brute physical reality. A lot of women seem truly ignorant of how utterly weak and fragile they are compared to even average men. I'm pretty much dead on average American guy--height, size (a bit more upper body per my size, a bit less leg)--and now even as a geezer I almost never see any woman I couldn't quickly subdue. (Ok, now I see some really fat ones that probably geezer me couldn't move after knocking them out.) Young guys who are actually tough and strong? There are no women who would even be in a "fight" with them, they'd just be on the floor unconscious. But apparently a lot of women don't realize the extreme extent of sexual dimorphism on strength. I guess their boyfriends/husbands have never handled them physically--even just to toss 'em over their shoulder and carry 'em off to bed?
And what's weird to me is this intense desire to see this female warrior--a complete fantasy of a competent ass-kicking female warrior. I get the interest in what the other sex can do. When AnotherMom was pregnant--belly bulging out incredibly--I had
a) a sense of pride in my manhood, that i'd knocked her up and my baby was growing inside her
but even more profoundly
b) a sense of wonder at life, at her feminine power, to receive my joy juice, combine with it, and bake it into a beautiful baby inside her.
But what I didn't feel was jealously. That I was cheated as a guy because I couldn't grow a baby myself. Or later, that she had a more intense bond with the kids through pregnancy and nursing. I was grateful--to God, to life, to her--to be a dad, did my dad thing, appreciated it, loved it.
These women of the West today are nuts. They downplay, dismiss and many forego the one thing they can do not just "much better" than men, but that men can't do at all. And pine for these bizarre fantasies where they are supreme at doing things that men are so thoroughly superior at that women aren't even in the same universe. It's insanity. And it's part of what's killing the West.Replies: @SteveRogers42, @PiltdownMan
Freud took a stab at why women feel that way. But I’m told his theory has been discredited.
http://tinyurl.com/oqmccnt
The usual suspects keep parroting the line, but where's the proof?Replies: @Pericles
Merciful Minerva…
Well that explanation certainly makes the idea of what they are doing; strike that, the VERY OBVIOUS idea of what they are doing, seem plausible.
You need to hang out with Leftist Irish academics……
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqIBGEcKhGsReplies: @syonredux
Good scene. Shows what happens when you dump the CGI and use stuntmen and solid fight choreography.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/doc-savage-film-dwayne-johnson-898220Replies: @SteveRogers42
Rock (“The Dwayne”) Johnson, still looking for that one big career-defining role. It’s funny…he’s extremely charismatic and at least as handsome as (and a far better natural athlete than) other “Expendables”-type Hollywood heroes, but he’s never landed an iconic action-hero role like Arnie, Sly, or Bruce Willis.
Do little white boys watch The Rock and fantasize about being him? I don't know.
One thing about Ahh-nold is that his most iconic movies were veritable gorefests. They stick in your mind. Has the Rock ever slaughtered an entire army all by himself, or carved his own eyeball out of his skull, or ripped off a guy's arms while tossing out a sarcastic remark? Some boys get off on stuff like this.
Can you think of one memorable scene in a Rock movie that you can rattle off the top of your head, like "the Terminator shoots up the police station"? I can't.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @SteveRogers42
Dreadful casting, just dreadful.Replies: @guest
They did have a scene where Hepburn stares in a mirror and laments her lost looks, so they acknowledged it. In think she was cast simply because people wanted to hear Hepburn and O’Toole yell at eachother.
A comic book movie that’s derivative? How can that be?
Remember when Comic Book Man was a joke everyone sneered at? Now this childish folderol is being held up (by simpletons mostly, but still) as having deep sociological and historical import and defining the state of our world. Omega basement boys’ power fantasies (and in the case of WW, her creator’s BDSM fantasies) are being elevated to the level of great literature/art and trenchant political analysis.
No wonder that test showed college kids can’t think critically. Look what they have to work with!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUfOcgr7OSIReplies: @Amasius
Why do people look better when they’re almost dead from dehydration? Seems to conflict with the evolutionary fitness = attractiveness thing. Any random slob could kick Hugh Jackman’s ass when he’s in that condition.
The point, I think, is like how fitness models use tanner and oil and lighting to show off every little nook and cranny of their musculature. It makes them stand out. That type of thing has almost nothing to do with what regular humans find attractive, though they generally do prefer their men to be strong.
That’s just nuts. By that standard, no one is even close to 100% Jewish, so why even ask the question?
If you’re going back 2000 years to the Romans, why don’t you just go back another 3000 years or so, in which case Arquette would be 0% Jewish?
Are there any other ethnic groups you tend to go back 2000 years to determine the ancestry of?
Then enforcement of it as against an infringer will likely be denied, as his attorney will be able to show that the patent did not "teach" the invention, nor "show the best mode"Replies: @Autochthon
Patents’ significance is determined in litigation, not prosecution; prosecution is largely a rumber-stamp.
Paul Newman was the exception, not the rule, in the 1950s. Most other Jewish leading men (Kirk Douglas, Tony Curtis, Walter Matthau, Cornel Wilde, Jean-Pierre Aumont, John Garfield) in the 1950s had two Jewish parents. There were some other “half Jews” like Fred Astaire and Melvyn Douglas, but they were not necessarily particularly handsome or anything.
Out of the big four Jewish actresses now (Portman, Johansson, Kunis, and Gadot), three of them have two Jewish parents.
Early Hollywood Jewish starlets like Bacall, Shelley Winters, and Judy Holliday also did. So did some of the later ones like Barbra Streisand and Debra Winger, who were two of the biggest female stars of the 1970s/80s.
As the population of “half Jews” increased, there were more in acting, of course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxWvtMOGAhwReplies: @syonredux, @Harry Baldwin, @Hippopotamusdrome
A black superhero just can’t be a normal superhero who just happens to be black. No, he has to be “The Panther”. Sorry, I mean “The Black Panther”. Panthers are, by definition, black, but the target audience may not know this.
Blacks have few accomplishments of their own so it is natural that they reach back to mythical pasts, even going as far as to appropriate other peoples’ past (the Egyptians’ being a common example). The sad part is that the writer has built his/her “We wuz kangz” narrative, not even on a culture that actually existed, but on a cartoon. It is almost as sad as those blacks who want to reject the chains of whites and Christianity by leaping into the chains of Islam and Arabs.
The big promoter of that thesis was Martin Bernal, who wasn't black. The people who hired him at Cornell were not black. The university presses who published his rubbish aren't minority firms either.Replies: @syonredux
So they implemented it themselves, and now their chips (or chips using the technology they developed) are in every cellular modem on the planet.
This business that so-and-such female or brown person invented thus-and-so because they once mentioned it as a cool idea is as valid as the contention that Edgar Rice Burroughs invented the means to travel to Mars or Jules Verne invented modern nuclear submarines. It's baloney. Mind you, great artists and authors, especially those who know what they are talking about, such as Heinlein and Asimov did, can indeed serve as catalysts and visionaries whose ideas advance the state of the art, but let's not confuse them with the guys who actually realise those visions.Replies: @Kylie
So Hedy Lamarr was closer to “I am Tondelayo” than she was to scientific genius.
No, it was not honest in the least. Your reply makes that quite clear. It’s the Prog tactic of keeping the ficus on their enemy at all costs. Here, you could have replied any number of ways, but instead you implied that I was acting irrationally (triggered) and that Sailer is not acting from a basis of fact. It’s standard passive-aggressive Prog rhetoric. There’s nothing honest about it.
You should try this out at Brietbart. There are people there more your speed.
Congratulation to your wife on staying fit. Since she is under 5 feet tall, she should weigh under 100 pounds. If people can’t compliment her, they should STFU instead of jumping to the erroneous conclusion that she suffers from an eating disorder.
I’m 62, 5’7″ tall, very small-boned and weigh 125 pounds. I’m very comfortable at this weight and while no athlete, stay active doing house and yard work and can still lock my knees and touch my toes. The chubbies I know who consider themselves “active” are always on the go. This means they drive from place to place and then sit when they get to where they’re going. None of them are “active” doing any house or yard work
Out of the big four Jewish actresses now (Portman, Johansson, Kunis, and Gadot), three of them have two Jewish parents.
Early Hollywood Jewish starlets like Bacall, Shelley Winters, and Judy Holliday also did. So did some of the later ones like Barbra Streisand and Debra Winger, who were two of the biggest female stars of the 1970s/80s.
As the population of "half Jews" increased, there were more in acting, of course.Replies: @syonredux
Astaire’s background is interesting:
http://ethnicelebs.com/fred-astaire
Gadot’s not a big star.
They don’t look better, frankly. If you saw them outside the context of professional photography, you’d say, “Ew.”
The point, I think, is like how fitness models use tanner and oil and lighting to show off every little nook and cranny of their musculature. It makes them stand out. That type of thing has almost nothing to do with what regular humans find attractive, though they generally do prefer their men to be strong.
By the way, Venus was the Goddess of Love and Beauty, not the Goddess of Perfect Breasts. There’s no reason to assume that in any particular work of art, even one where the artist represents feminine beauty, the artist is necessarily trying to depict what he finds personally most attractive. Nor what he thinks his audience should ideally be most attracted to. Such thinking has led to all sorts of nonsense about supposedly divergent beauty standards in olden times.
That being said, I find classical Venuses to be more attractive than Gal Gadot.
But one of the conceits of her '70s Wonder Woman was that she was supposed to be plain-looking as an Army secretary.Replies: @Judah Benjamin Hur, @TWS, @bored identity
bored identity would say that Mrs. Carter definitely have had and still has a plenty of plain-looking.
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/I really don't know what more evidence one needs to show that jews are not white, if they don't see themselves as white, then how can one not accept this ? In the case of Gal Gadot, she certainly has Arabic features.Replies: @syonredux, @Lot, @Stealth, @International Jew, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Anon7, @Chris Mallory, @Jay Fink, @Right wing Jew, @Marcus, @Robert Dunn
So because one half mick leftwinger says Ashkenazis arent white in a blog post, thats the be all end all? Ashkenazim are white in every way just like the Lebanese and Syrian Christians that blend right in and you wouldnt know without an autistic level facial analysis (Ralph Nader, Ray LaHood, John Sununu, etc). And any Jew who denies this should spend time in a black neighborhood or in a POC conference and see how long they last.
Half-Jewish people who are the children or grandchildren of either a Jewish father or a Jewish mother, and who identify as Jews, may make aliyah to Israel under the Law of Return and become Israeli citizens. They will receive help from the Israeli government. Thus even Israel grants full status and citizenship to half jews as being treated as fully Jewish under judea religious law
if Harvard continues to count those who are Half black and 1/16 Black as being African America it would be logical to count half jews as Jewish just as half Cuban students are counted as Hispanic and even those who claim to be 1/32 Indian are counted as Native American. The majority of the Blacks at Harvard are actually mulattoes, as are their Black profs.Replies: @Anonymous
Maybe I’m the last person who should speak as an authority on this, but, halachically speaking, there is no such thing as a half-Jew, any more than a woman can be half pregnant. One is or is not a Jew.
One is a Jew if one’s mother is a Jewess in good standing, and one has not willfully converted to another religion. (Even at that they can be sort of tolerant as long as the other religion isn’t Christianity, it seems.) OR if one has made a valid Orthodox conversion.
Any rabbis out there to correct or add to that??
http://cityandshorebucket.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/amandasept2015a.jpgReplies: @Steve Sailer, @syonredux
Evidence that men are designed for combat
(I'll have to get someone to read the big words to me, though!)
I think the issue comes down to
(1) whether a person in general feels sympathetic toward Jews
(2) whether a person in general feels sympathetic toward whites.
The more the person’s view of whites and of Jews is similar, the more he will think of Jews as a subset of whites.
White nationalists who see Jews as the prime enemy will see them as non-white, as will Jews who adopt SJW stands on privilege, but who see Jews as an oppressed group rather than a “privileged” group. White nationalists who lack antipathy toward Jews (e.g. Jared Taylor) are much more likely to see Jews as fellow whites, as do Jews who support white nationalism (e.g. Nicholas Stix). At the same time, SJWs who support BDS and who see Israel as an apartheid state (and who see that as a bad thing to be) tend to think of Jews as another privileged group of whites.
(1) whether a person in general feels sympathetic toward Jews
(2) whether a person in general feels sympathetic toward whites.
The more the person's view of whites and of Jews is similar, the more he will think of Jews as a subset of whites.
White nationalists who see Jews as the prime enemy will see them as non-white, as will Jews who adopt SJW stands on privilege, but who see Jews as an oppressed group rather than a "privileged" group. White nationalists who lack antipathy toward Jews (e.g. Jared Taylor) are much more likely to see Jews as fellow whites, as do Jews who support white nationalism (e.g. Nicholas Stix). At the same time, SJWs who support BDS and who see Israel as an apartheid state (and who see that as a bad thing to be) tend to think of Jews as another privileged group of whites.Replies: @Jay Fink
I enjoy the irony that the jew hating branch of white nationalists and the Jews who are SJWs, two groups who couldn’t be more different than each other, share this belief that Jews aren’t white.
This was some kind of promo/pilot deal that came out a couple years ago. Thought it was pretty cool — don’t know if it had any influence on the current film.
WW can’t throw a javelin, though…
Excellent resource — thank you!
(I’ll have to get someone to read the big words to me, though!)
Freud being ”discredited” is a bit like the ”Death of Communism”.
The usual suspects keep parroting the line, but where’s the proof?
When I was a kid, I watched all of Ahh-nold’s movies and fantasized about being a big buff dude who went around wreaking havoc.
Do little white boys watch The Rock and fantasize about being him? I don’t know.
One thing about Ahh-nold is that his most iconic movies were veritable gorefests. They stick in your mind. Has the Rock ever slaughtered an entire army all by himself, or carved his own eyeball out of his skull, or ripped off a guy’s arms while tossing out a sarcastic remark? Some boys get off on stuff like this.
Can you think of one memorable scene in a Rock movie that you can rattle off the top of your head, like “the Terminator shoots up the police station”? I can’t.
Lamarr was an impressive person in a lot of ways: she was obviously a creative thinker. She just wasn’t an engineer, and had she been the idea would have made no sense at the time. She was in the exact position of a science fiction writer who thinks up an idea, like a nuclear submarine in 1880 or the Starship Enterprise in 1965. Sometimes technology catches up with wild ideas and sometimes it doesn’t-yet.
(Katharine) Hepburn was a horsey woman to begin with.
https://twitter.com/RealLyndaCarter/status/834780320708837377Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Rifleman, @Neoconned, @Father O'Hara, @William Badwhite, @Robert Dunn
Indeed
An anti-Zionist dislikes the movie.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/06/watching-woman-gaza-170610082618366.html
There was a back migration of caucasians into the horn of africa so that current ethiopians and somalis are genetically 40% caucasian.
“It’s not the Jews, it’s the gay Jews!” (To rip off Garry Shandling.)
LOL. I think even at 13, I had a pretty solid idea of what made women “attractive” and a “really big chest”–while certainly piquing a boy’s interest–was definitely not required.
My post was an attempt to put the ridiculous Gal Gadot “not pretty” nonsense to rest. She’s obviously pretty, cute, attractive–and doesn’t care what we think while she enjoys her family and counts her Hollywood loot.
But since you’re insisting Jack, my tongue doesn’t hang out around girls with big chests that arrive minutes before they do, nor am I even a Linda Carter fan. Why I wrote:
is because her figure is indeed a bit straighter through the torso than the female norm.
Since i’d never heard of her, the first thing I did–typical guy that the gay Jews haven’t corrupted yet–was an image search. And her not super curvy torso shows up in several images:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=FKYHoc%2b2&id=37FEF7DBF780CCDC2A7C36B8964007B1DB7D1B6F&thid=OIP.FKYHoc-2NAdt3LSJjEWtRwDtEs&q=gal+gadot&simid=607989236868907960&selectedIndex=17&ajaxhist=0
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=CgQv3VV0&id=E57A9D10D2B8FD020805D92B56B86AC52D7DAECF&thid=OIP.CgQv3VV0HBK47rlQeqMESgEsEF&q=gal+gadot&simid=608024691825445562&selectedIndex=55&ajaxhist=0
The gist of it is that she doesn’t curve quickly from hips/ass to a trim waist, but rather her waist is higher, she stays “thicker” longer and hence there’s more “straightness” to her through the mid section. In contrast the woman i’m most familiar with–AnotherMom–while with three kids and a lot of years is way less fit than Gal, nonetheless curves in much more sharply from hips/ass to waist. (I.e. she has a more “womanly” figure. No one would say “boyish figure”.) My youngest–a runner–has a rockin’ bikini body, which i’d say is objectively superior to Gal’s and it’s not because her chest is any bigger. It’s because she curves incredibly from her hips to a tight trim waist.
Sorry Jack, Gal is fit, feminine and attractive. But “curvy” is just not her killer feature. And it doesn’t take a big boob man to feel this way. Even more of an “ass man” like myself picks up on it.
True. But so were the Austrians, Russians, French and British.
The Germans were the most aggressive in bringing on the war, but all these folks contributed with massive, arrogant, clueless misbehavior.
This isn’t the place for a big “Great War” debate, but one idea I want to push out to my fellow Americans, is that they are steeped in the Anglo-Saxon perspective and a lot of “Great War” thinking is retconned the (real) World War. And because of this I think we miss an important piece of the puzzle:
A big part of what led to the 20th century wars was British and French imperialism. These nations had essentially “sewn up” a good portion of the world, locking out the commercial interests of other nations. And this system had no good way to accommodate a rising Germany.
I’d argue–a counter factual–that if the world system had been the open free trade system that America imposed after the War–which widened with decolonization–then a rising Germany’s interests would have been accommodated without war. These wars were essentially the Germans–late to the nationalist party–attempt to get out of a “junior” role and push aside its bossy older brothers, who’d already grabbed up all the goodies.
Blacks have few accomplishments of their own so it is natural that they reach back to mythical pasts, even going as far as to appropriate other peoples’ past (the Egyptians’ being a common example).
The big promoter of that thesis was Martin Bernal, who wasn’t black. The people who hired him at Cornell were not black. The university presses who published his rubbish aren’t minority firms either.
A big part of what led to the 20th century wars was British and French imperialism. These nations had essentially “sewn up” a good portion of the world, locking out the commercial interests of other nations. And this system had no good way to accommodate a rising Germany.
1. All the European powers had concessions in China (for what that was worth).
2. Very little of tropical Africa in 1880 was incorporated into any European state’s portfolio of dependencies. Germany competed on equal terms with Britain and France in the project of carving the continent up over the period running from 1885 to 1906.
3. Germany was over-extended abroad during that era. All of its overseas dependencies bar the China concessions and German East Africa had been conquered by March 1916. Their military position was sufficiently weak that Britain and France could leave the task of ejecting them to local powers (Australia, South Africa, Japan, and China).
4. Recall Georges Clemenceau’s judgment in the pre-war period that seeking territory abroad was a waste of resources that should be applied to defending against Germany. An atypical view among French politicians, but a reasonable one.
5. The value of French trade with Belgium ca. 1910 exceeded the value of French trade with its African dependencies. (See Thomas Sowell’s critique of Leninist arguments re imperialism).
6. Outside of Tropical Africa, French dependencies in 1914 consisted of a portion of Southeast Asia, a portion of the Maghreb, and several sets of islands (none of which had more than about 400,000 people living in them). In our own time, these territories contain just north of 1% of the world’s purchasing power.
7. Outside of Tropical Africa, British dependencies consisted of India, Ceylon, Burma, the Malay states, Egypt, several coastal enclaves on the Arabian peninsula, and several sets of islands. Notionally, they included as well Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa. In our own time, each set of countries contains about 4-5%% of the world’s purchasing power.
8. Britain had dismantled mercantilist controls on its domestic economy by 1850. The use of tariffs as a component of industrial policy was much more a German and Hapsburg affectation. We can check, but I don’t think you’re going to discover that the British parliament proscribed trade between its dependencies and foreign powers or had a tariff regime that was contextually remarkable.
No point missing on my part. See my response to JackD.
You and Jack are the ones who are confused–in your respective ways–about my response. And I don’t think it’s a failure in what I wrote. Gal’s attractive, but has less feminine curvature–straighter mid-torso–than the norm:
Frankly–being down here at the beach (well actually up this weekend visiting my boy in Savannah) AnotherMom’s ideal not mine–any gal who is fit, not fat and without tats pretty much qualifies as “hot”. It’s a nightmare what modern young women have done to themselves.
I don't believe you believe that. Men, children, and the elderly can be fit and tat-free. You're taking for granted that these gals look like adult women who haven't reached their expiration date.
That being said, health and fitness are important. As are youth, style, and a great many other things. But to leave out the main part, actually looking like whatever sex you are, is simply to have low standards in my opinion. Though I don't doubt that a lot of guys give masculine women the benefit of the designation of hotness because "at least she's not fat."
Instead of the beach, go to the nearest college campus. I bet you find loads of girls hotter than the manly Gadot.
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/I really don't know what more evidence one needs to show that jews are not white, if they don't see themselves as white, then how can one not accept this ? In the case of Gal Gadot, she certainly has Arabic features.Replies: @syonredux, @Lot, @Stealth, @International Jew, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Anon7, @Chris Mallory, @Jay Fink, @Right wing Jew, @Marcus, @Robert Dunn
Arabic is a language you fool
“There are girls who deviate on the other side, as well. There’s such a thing as being too feminine; see the babyface phenomenon.”
“Babyface” is not “feminine.” This is a misunderstanding that I encounter too often these days to let pass without mention.
In an adult human (and any non-human ape as well), a large, broad, round, flattish face, such as is often called “babyface” in common parlance, is masculine (andromorphic).
Feminine features include:
*A relatively narrow lower face
*Low cheekbones (which contribute to the former)
*Large eyes, nose, and mouth relative to the total surface area of the face
*High color contrast
Low cheekbones, large eyes, and high color contrast might be features that are shared with a baby’s face, but the overall shape and proportions of a baby’s face are more similar to a masculine adult face than to a feminine adult face.
The big promoter of that thesis was Martin Bernal, who wasn't black. The people who hired him at Cornell were not black. The university presses who published his rubbish aren't minority firms either.Replies: @syonredux
He peddled a high-IQ version of Black Egypt to the gullible….
You and Jack are the ones who are confused--in your respective ways--about my response. And I don't think it's a failure in what I wrote. Gal's attractive, but has less feminine curvature--straighter mid-torso--than the norm: Frankly--being down here at the beach (well actually up this weekend visiting my boy in Savannah) AnotherMom's ideal not mine--any gal who is fit, not fat and without tats pretty much qualifies as "hot". It's a nightmare what modern young women have done to themselves.Replies: @guest, @guest, @guest
“any gal who is fit, not fat and without tats pretty much qualifies as ‘hot’”
I don’t believe you believe that. Men, children, and the elderly can be fit and tat-free. You’re taking for granted that these gals look like adult women who haven’t reached their expiration date.
That being said, health and fitness are important. As are youth, style, and a great many other things. But to leave out the main part, actually looking like whatever sex you are, is simply to have low standards in my opinion. Though I don’t doubt that a lot of guys give masculine women the benefit of the designation of hotness because “at least she’s not fat.”
Instead of the beach, go to the nearest college campus. I bet you find loads of girls hotter than the manly Gadot.
You and Jack are the ones who are confused--in your respective ways--about my response. And I don't think it's a failure in what I wrote. Gal's attractive, but has less feminine curvature--straighter mid-torso--than the norm: Frankly--being down here at the beach (well actually up this weekend visiting my boy in Savannah) AnotherMom's ideal not mine--any gal who is fit, not fat and without tats pretty much qualifies as "hot". It's a nightmare what modern young women have done to themselves.Replies: @guest, @guest, @guest
“Gal’s attractive, but has less feminine curvature–straighter mid-torso–than the norm”
That is boyish. So why qualify by saying no boy is built like that? No one’s saying her figure is identical to a boy’s. (Not even the one implying she’s a transsexual.) She’s boyISH. Which is to say for someone who’s a grown woman, she resembles a boy. Do you honestly think anyone thinks she actually could pass for a boy when they call her boyish? Then why bring it up?
That’s why I say you miss the point. It would be enough for you to leave it at “a bit,” or to say something like, “She’s not curvy, but she’s not very boyish, either.” But the way you write it, it’s like you don’t know what the suffix “-ish” means. And you come off like you’re saying she’s boyish, but she’s not boyish or anything.
You and Jack are the ones who are confused--in your respective ways--about my response. And I don't think it's a failure in what I wrote. Gal's attractive, but has less feminine curvature--straighter mid-torso--than the norm: Frankly--being down here at the beach (well actually up this weekend visiting my boy in Savannah) AnotherMom's ideal not mine--any gal who is fit, not fat and without tats pretty much qualifies as "hot". It's a nightmare what modern young women have done to themselves.Replies: @guest, @guest, @guest
By the way, I could see someone saying she’s attractive, despite the boyishness. Because she has other qualities. Hot is another matter. To me that would mean she inspires lustfulness, but she lacks distinguishing sexual characteristics for that. She does posses what pass for high-status looks in our culture, and men may be turned on by that alone.
But the topic originally was prettiness, and that I will not accept. Prettiness implies femininity, and whatever else she is Gadot is not feminine.
After seeing this article over at Vdare I just had to come over and see how the Jew Derangement Syndrome types who infest the threads at Unz would process Steve’s observation that Gal Gadot is “pretty”. Boy, they did not disappoint my expectation that they would make utter fools of themselves. There’s, of course, the simple derangement of the claim, “Gal Gadot is not pretty.” The lists of supposedly prettier girls who aren’t remotely. And the video that claims the often-gravid Gopdot is a tranny. LOL!
Contrary to the claim that grey-hairs like me prefer Lynda Carter, I think Gadot is prettier, though less strikingly individual. Carter had a better waist, hips and thighs and her broad if rather two-dimensional shoulders are… striking. But Godot’s features are less pointed and there is no comparison in the sensual appeal of the mouth. You’re not crazy to prefer the young Carter, but you’re not right, either.
bored identity will decline another DC Marvelwood’s invitation to participate in Waiting for Gadot :
I see the usual suspects are now coming out with their hands out and complaining that fat black women with an attitude don’t get these Greek Goddess Roles. Yeah its a mystery how that happened. I suppose you could waste the rest of your life and try to explain business to them, but go ahead and throw your life away. Revrum Shakedown don’t care none for facts. Simply being annoying and implying violence is how he eats and has a home with a roof.
I suppose it will be an interesting real life experiment to see how profitable it actually is to patronize black delusions when “Black Panther” AKA We Wuz Kangs: The Motion Picture manages to eak out enough cash to at least pay for the insurance to cover the damage of having black patrons at your place of business.
Has it occurred to anyone yet that offending blacks and having them boycott you could make you Billions and Billions of Dollars? They couldn’t even try to sue you, if the blacks were purposely avoiding your business, could they?
There is no ‘Low-IQ” version. Bernal’s version is the only version. The ‘gullible’ in question are the sort of people who purchase and read university press books. His work was favorably reviewed in The Village Voice. A collection of classical scholars did feel it necessary to publish a debunking volume.
Of the notion that the Egyptians were Black? That idea has been popular in the Black community for over a century. If you want to sample a low-IQ version of the idea, just do a search on google…
And those people are highly gullible when it comes to things that they want to believe. Cf the success of Gould’s The Mismeasure of Man…
There you go. PC groupthink. He was telling people a story that they wanted to believe.
Can’t say as I blame them. Just about every classicist that I know tells horror stories about having to deal with a “Woke” Black student who believes that Cleopatra was Black, Plato stole his ideas from Egypt, ….
Do little white boys watch The Rock and fantasize about being him? I don't know.
One thing about Ahh-nold is that his most iconic movies were veritable gorefests. They stick in your mind. Has the Rock ever slaughtered an entire army all by himself, or carved his own eyeball out of his skull, or ripped off a guy's arms while tossing out a sarcastic remark? Some boys get off on stuff like this.
Can you think of one memorable scene in a Rock movie that you can rattle off the top of your head, like "the Terminator shoots up the police station"? I can't.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @SteveRogers42
Another way to look at it is that The Rock has succeeded without having a great director the way Arnold had James Cameron.
But, yeah, The Rock needs to invest, before he’s too old, in a high quality action film that could become a classic so that he’ll be remembered when he’s 80.
Arnold's early career trajectory was Pumping Iron -> Conan the Barbarian -> The Terminator. (Hercules in New York doesn't count.)
Pumping Iron put him on the map, Conan proved that he could carry a movie on his broad shoulders, and Terminator solidified his status as a leading Hollywood star.
Terminator was a low-budget exploitation flick that exploded into one of the biggest moviemakers of the year. Ahh-nold was leery about playing a villain - he wanted to play Kyle Reese - but took the role at Cameron's insistence. It was a risk that paid off handsomely.
Dwayne Johnson never took any big risks like that, did he?
The Rock's first big role was ... the Scorpion King in Mummy 2? A sequel to a solid hit, featuring a neophyte actor who was nevertheless a proven star in pro wrestling. (One of his earliest acting credits was a cameo on one of the crappiest episodes of Star Trek: Voyager.) His first starring role was in the full-length Scorpion King movie - a spinoff of a sequel. He was already a known quantity, and neither he nor the movie broke any new ground.
The thing is that Arnold and Stallone were the archetypal musclebound ass-kickers. They invented a new category of actor and movie. Never before had moviegoers been presented with such sheer (steroid-fueled) physicality.
(I guess you could point to Steve Reeves as a 1950s actor with an Ahh-nold-ish physique. And The Terminator owes a lot to Yul Brenner's portrayal of a stone-cold robot in Michael Crichton's Westworld.)
The Rock is a good actor and a smart guy, but he cannot possibly have nearly the same impact on the pop-culture landscape that Ahh-nold had.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @syonredux
None of the Rock's output really reaches that level.....
True.
Arnold’s early career trajectory was Pumping Iron -> Conan the Barbarian -> The Terminator. (Hercules in New York doesn’t count.)
Pumping Iron put him on the map, Conan proved that he could carry a movie on his broad shoulders, and Terminator solidified his status as a leading Hollywood star.
Terminator was a low-budget exploitation flick that exploded into one of the biggest moviemakers of the year. Ahh-nold was leery about playing a villain – he wanted to play Kyle Reese – but took the role at Cameron’s insistence. It was a risk that paid off handsomely.
Dwayne Johnson never took any big risks like that, did he?
The Rock’s first big role was … the Scorpion King in Mummy 2? A sequel to a solid hit, featuring a neophyte actor who was nevertheless a proven star in pro wrestling. (One of his earliest acting credits was a cameo on one of the crappiest episodes of Star Trek: Voyager.) His first starring role was in the full-length Scorpion King movie – a spinoff of a sequel. He was already a known quantity, and neither he nor the movie broke any new ground.
The thing is that Arnold and Stallone were the archetypal musclebound ass-kickers. They invented a new category of actor and movie. Never before had moviegoers been presented with such sheer (steroid-fueled) physicality.
(I guess you could point to Steve Reeves as a 1950s actor with an Ahh-nold-ish physique. And The Terminator owes a lot to Yul Brenner’s portrayal of a stone-cold robot in Michael Crichton’s Westworld.)
The Rock is a good actor and a smart guy, but he cannot possibly have nearly the same impact on the pop-culture landscape that Ahh-nold had.
Yeah, Arnie had a great string of action classics in the ’80s and early ’90s: Conan The Barbarian , The Terminator, Predator, Total Recall, Terminator II, Last Action Hero,….
None of the Rock’s output really reaches that level…..
Arnold's early career trajectory was Pumping Iron -> Conan the Barbarian -> The Terminator. (Hercules in New York doesn't count.)
Pumping Iron put him on the map, Conan proved that he could carry a movie on his broad shoulders, and Terminator solidified his status as a leading Hollywood star.
Terminator was a low-budget exploitation flick that exploded into one of the biggest moviemakers of the year. Ahh-nold was leery about playing a villain - he wanted to play Kyle Reese - but took the role at Cameron's insistence. It was a risk that paid off handsomely.
Dwayne Johnson never took any big risks like that, did he?
The Rock's first big role was ... the Scorpion King in Mummy 2? A sequel to a solid hit, featuring a neophyte actor who was nevertheless a proven star in pro wrestling. (One of his earliest acting credits was a cameo on one of the crappiest episodes of Star Trek: Voyager.) His first starring role was in the full-length Scorpion King movie - a spinoff of a sequel. He was already a known quantity, and neither he nor the movie broke any new ground.
The thing is that Arnold and Stallone were the archetypal musclebound ass-kickers. They invented a new category of actor and movie. Never before had moviegoers been presented with such sheer (steroid-fueled) physicality.
(I guess you could point to Steve Reeves as a 1950s actor with an Ahh-nold-ish physique. And The Terminator owes a lot to Yul Brenner's portrayal of a stone-cold robot in Michael Crichton's Westworld.)
The Rock is a good actor and a smart guy, but he cannot possibly have nearly the same impact on the pop-culture landscape that Ahh-nold had.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @syonredux
I saw The Rock wrestle at the Staples Center in maybe 2001 with Arnold in the first row.
It then took The Rock a fairly long time to become a huge movie star. He made some decent movies in the 2000s but none of them quite caught on. One suggestion is that he modeled his career too much on Arnold in playing a variety of roles, whereas the newer model is to make it big playing just one character in a franchise, the way Vin Diesel doesn’t do all that much except appear in Fast and Furious Movies.
Then in this decade The Rock has been box office gold. But now it is time for him to focus on starring in a great movie.
* Fighting with My Family (post-production)
* Skyscraper (pre-production, 2018) - Will Ford
* Rampage (filming, 2018) - Davis Okoye
* Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle (post-production, 2017) - Dr. Smolder Bravestone
* Big Trouble in Little China (announced) - Jack Burton (rumored)
* Doc Savage (announced) - Doc Savage
* Journey 3: From the Earth to the Moon (announced) - Hank
* Jungle Cruise (pre-production)
* San Andreas 2 (announced) - Raymond Gaines
* The Janson Directive (announced)Maybe he'll star in a great movie in the next decade.Replies: @syonredux
Arnold's early career trajectory was Pumping Iron -> Conan the Barbarian -> The Terminator. (Hercules in New York doesn't count.)
Pumping Iron put him on the map, Conan proved that he could carry a movie on his broad shoulders, and Terminator solidified his status as a leading Hollywood star.
Terminator was a low-budget exploitation flick that exploded into one of the biggest moviemakers of the year. Ahh-nold was leery about playing a villain - he wanted to play Kyle Reese - but took the role at Cameron's insistence. It was a risk that paid off handsomely.
Dwayne Johnson never took any big risks like that, did he?
The Rock's first big role was ... the Scorpion King in Mummy 2? A sequel to a solid hit, featuring a neophyte actor who was nevertheless a proven star in pro wrestling. (One of his earliest acting credits was a cameo on one of the crappiest episodes of Star Trek: Voyager.) His first starring role was in the full-length Scorpion King movie - a spinoff of a sequel. He was already a known quantity, and neither he nor the movie broke any new ground.
The thing is that Arnold and Stallone were the archetypal musclebound ass-kickers. They invented a new category of actor and movie. Never before had moviegoers been presented with such sheer (steroid-fueled) physicality.
(I guess you could point to Steve Reeves as a 1950s actor with an Ahh-nold-ish physique. And The Terminator owes a lot to Yul Brenner's portrayal of a stone-cold robot in Michael Crichton's Westworld.)
The Rock is a good actor and a smart guy, but he cannot possibly have nearly the same impact on the pop-culture landscape that Ahh-nold had.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @syonredux
Stallone’s a different kettle of fish, though. He wasn’t a body-builder who transitioned to acting. He was a working actor from the beginning (e.g., he had good supporting roles in Farewell, My Lovely, The Lords of Flatbush, Death Race 200, etc)And there was nothing steroidal about his pre-Rocky III physique. In Rocky, Rocky II, and First Blood, he simply looked like a fit guy who took his training seriously. It was Rocky III (and Rambo: First Blood, Part Two) that introduced the new, chemically enhanced Sly.
In his blue movie, released long after he was already famous, his hair was bigger than his muscles.
Reddit has found a photo of Gal Gadot joining the IDF:
Also, Stallone wrote the “Rocky” screenplay.
Yes, but if you did didn’t dwell on her bone structure you could pretend for the sake of the movie she used to be beautiful.
"Babyface" is not "feminine." This is a misunderstanding that I encounter too often these days to let pass without mention.
In an adult human (and any non-human ape as well), a large, broad, round, flattish face, such as is often called "babyface" in common parlance, is masculine (andromorphic).
Feminine features include:
*A relatively narrow lower face
*Low cheekbones (which contribute to the former)
*Large eyes, nose, and mouth relative to the total surface area of the face
*High color contrast
Low cheekbones, large eyes, and high color contrast might be features that are shared with a baby's face, but the overall shape and proportions of a baby's face are more similar to a masculine adult face than to a feminine adult face.Replies: @guest
In common parlance, “babyface” means having a smooth, plump, round, and childish face, with small features. Of course, it also means “resembling a baby,” and possibly these connotations aren’t physiologically applicable to actually babies. I wouldn’t know. Maybe everyone’s wrong but you. But in that case, maybe you shouldn’t take the term so literally.
Usually it’s applied to women, though not exclusively. None of the above qualities is masculine, that’s for sure.
“a large, broad, round, flattish face…is masculine”
The ideal feminine face shape is oval, an oval of course being elongated roundness. Masculine faces have hard edges, a square shape, and aren’t stereotypically round or soft.
Also highly feminine is to have delicate features, and ones that don’t stand out. Robust, as they say, features are a masculine trait. Babyfacedness implies small features which don’t stand out. I also associate childishness with relatively delicate features, and that’s part of the connotation.
Plumpness, do we even have to talk about that? Women and babies share that trait, men not typically, though of course they can be overweight.
Flatness isn’t a feminine feature, on that we can agree. However, I don’t think that’s in people’s minds when they use the term. Like I said, it’s about softness, plumpness, roundness, childishness and smallness or delicateness. In other words, not masculine.
True, but he did help define the category.
In his blue movie, released long after he was already famous, his hair was bigger than his muscles.
From IMDb, a list of his upcoming roles:
* Shazam! (announced, 2019) – Black Adam
* Fighting with My Family (post-production)
* Skyscraper (pre-production, 2018) – Will Ford
* Rampage (filming, 2018) – Davis Okoye
* Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle (post-production, 2017) – Dr. Smolder Bravestone
* Big Trouble in Little China (announced) – Jack Burton (rumored)
* Doc Savage (announced) – Doc Savage
* Journey 3: From the Earth to the Moon (announced) – Hank
* Jungle Cruise (pre-production)
* San Andreas 2 (announced) – Raymond Gaines
* The Janson Directive (announced)
Maybe he’ll star in a great movie in the next decade.
Contrary to the claim that grey-hairs like me prefer Lynda Carter, I think Gadot is prettier, though less strikingly individual. Carter had a better waist, hips and thighs and her broad if rather two-dimensional shoulders are... striking. But Godot's features are less pointed and there is no comparison in the sensual appeal of the mouth. You're not crazy to prefer the young Carter, but you're not right, either.Replies: @guest, @Truth, @Pericles
I didn’t want to comment on any of your points, because frankly they’re just weird. But the point about the mouth I must address. The sensual appeal of her mouth can be denied, at least by heterosexual males. Her mouth is way too big. Big mouths are not feminine.
I admit cartoons like to depict giant lips as great for kissing, but in reality they’re off-putting. Plump lips on relatively small mouths are what you want.
But all your talk about strikingness and pointed features makes me think you haven’t looked at many untouched pictures of Gadot close-up. Try that.
If you're going back 2000 years to the Romans, why don't you just go back another 3000 years or so, in which case Arquette would be 0% Jewish?
Are there any other ethnic groups you tend to go back 2000 years to determine the ancestry of?Replies: @Opinionator
Hey, the Jews are who claim they are half Roman, half Jews. Don’t blame the messenger.
* Fighting with My Family (post-production)
* Skyscraper (pre-production, 2018) - Will Ford
* Rampage (filming, 2018) - Davis Okoye
* Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle (post-production, 2017) - Dr. Smolder Bravestone
* Big Trouble in Little China (announced) - Jack Burton (rumored)
* Doc Savage (announced) - Doc Savage
* Journey 3: From the Earth to the Moon (announced) - Hank
* Jungle Cruise (pre-production)
* San Andreas 2 (announced) - Raymond Gaines
* The Janson Directive (announced)Maybe he'll star in a great movie in the next decade.Replies: @syonredux
Well, Shane Black’s slated to write and direct Doc Savage, and his last three films were pretty good: Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Iron Man III, and The Nice Guys…..So, maybe Doc Savage will be the one that they remember The Rock for….
Do little white boys watch The Rock and fantasize about being him? I don't know.
One thing about Ahh-nold is that his most iconic movies were veritable gorefests. They stick in your mind. Has the Rock ever slaughtered an entire army all by himself, or carved his own eyeball out of his skull, or ripped off a guy's arms while tossing out a sarcastic remark? Some boys get off on stuff like this.
Can you think of one memorable scene in a Rock movie that you can rattle off the top of your head, like "the Terminator shoots up the police station"? I can't.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @SteveRogers42
Exactly.
https://i.redd.it/uty4t76nt13z.jpgReplies: @SteveRogers42
I hope the D.I.’s can clean up that salute.
He was in Fast Five, which was the best action movie in the Fast & Furious series so far, which has arguably been the best action movie franchise.
Most lucrative, maybe, but better than Craig’s Bond or Damon’s Bourne?
Both series have their clunkers and fantastical elements, but at least appear to be serious action movies. The F’n’F franchise is more adolescently cartoonish as befitting its younger target audience. I doubt Fast Five is going stand the test of time for prestige purposes.
The Bourne movies have a patina of sophistication, but I don't know how well they'll hold up.
Most Zionist extremists I’ve spoken with not only don’t regard themselves as white but regard white gentiles (‘goyim’ – a Hebrew putdown) as their supreme enemies (especially Christians). This is one reason films about Christ that are blasphemous (‘The Last Temptation Of Christ’) are celebrated while genuine Christian films about Christ like ‘The Passion Of The Christ’ by Mel Gibson result in a hatefest in the media and, in the case of Mel Gibson, banishment from Hollywood for the better part of 12 years. And if you consider the accusation that Jewesses are always portrayed as unattractive or funny to be a load of crap then consider this – how many Jewish characters are EVER portrayed as the ‘bad guy’ or ‘bad girl’ etc???? Then combine that with a reflection on how many Hollywood films have been released of the Christian Holocaust in the Soviet Union, the Armenian Holocaust after WWI, the Cambodian Holocaust, the 35 million Chinese murdered in communist China, the bloodletting in East Timor and THEN ask yourself how many films about the Jewish Holocaust of WWII have been released by Hollywood?? You might must get a handle on who really controls that cesspool!
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/yes-ashkenazi-jews-including-gal-gadot-are-people-of-color/I really don't know what more evidence one needs to show that jews are not white, if they don't see themselves as white, then how can one not accept this ? In the case of Gal Gadot, she certainly has Arabic features.Replies: @syonredux, @Lot, @Stealth, @International Jew, @Judah Benjamin Hur, @Anon7, @Chris Mallory, @Jay Fink, @Right wing Jew, @Marcus, @Robert Dunn
What about Jews from Ireland, England, Sweden, Germany, France etc??? Are they also ‘not white’?
Males tend to have absolutely large mouths (as they tend to have absolutely larger measurements for nearly any part of the human face or body) because of their overall larger average size. However, what is important when discussing masculinity vs. femininity or beauty in general is the relative sizes of various body parts on an individual. The visible part of the mouth (normally, the lips) will appear larger on a feminine face because a feminine face has less projecting cheekbones, chin, and jaws, so the lips take up a larger proportion of the lower facial space.
Hollywood has always been totally about physical type, not who anybody really is. Natalie Wood and Yul Brynner looked exotic, so they played many ethnic types, including Jewish, which neither was. Lauren Bacall was a blonde siren, so that’s what she played. Shelley Winters (born Shirley Schrift to Austrian Jewish parents) started out as a blonde 7th-Avenue model, so she played bombshells, and had to lobby for her part in “A Place in the Sun” because they thought she didn’t look mousy enough to play Alice Tripp. Eventually, she aged into frumpy matron roles. Winona Ryder (born Horowitz) is a natural blonde, but got most of her work with brunette hair.
Now that it’s frowned-on for non-minorities to play minorities, not sure how all of this is going to play out. Sad, because it used to be called, “Acting.”
The first Craig Bond movie was great, and had a terrific opening action sequence. Fast Five’s train heist was as good, and it was bookended by another tremendous action sequence at the end, with the safe heist/chase.
The Bourne movies have a patina of sophistication, but I don’t know how well they’ll hold up.
Contrary to the claim that grey-hairs like me prefer Lynda Carter, I think Gadot is prettier, though less strikingly individual. Carter had a better waist, hips and thighs and her broad if rather two-dimensional shoulders are... striking. But Godot's features are less pointed and there is no comparison in the sensual appeal of the mouth. You're not crazy to prefer the young Carter, but you're not right, either.Replies: @guest, @Truth, @Pericles
I have a very low opinion of the F & F franchise ( to my mind, it’s multi-racial prole feed), but The Rock is simply one component in the franchise. He’s not the star/driving force (pun not intended).
Contrary to the claim that grey-hairs like me prefer Lynda Carter, I think Gadot is prettier, though less strikingly individual. Carter had a better waist, hips and thighs and her broad if rather two-dimensional shoulders are... striking. But Godot's features are less pointed and there is no comparison in the sensual appeal of the mouth. You're not crazy to prefer the young Carter, but you're not right, either.Replies: @guest, @Truth, @Pericles
Gadot is getting a bit old though. 35 or so by now? I’m sure there are sound judeo-feminist reasons for this and we shouldn’t complain, but compare that to the pic elsewhere in these comments taken when she enlisted in the IDF.
The usual suspects keep parroting the line, but where's the proof?Replies: @Pericles
Talk therapy as a whole is on the skids isn’t it? CBT and drugs usually have more convincing effect, as I understand it. So I’d say Freud is deader than Communism.
“I didn’t want to comment on any of your points, because frankly they’re just weird. But the point about the mouth I must address. The sensual appeal of her mouth can be denied, at least by heterosexual males. Her mouth is way too big.”
Nothing I said could possibly be as weird as your claim that Gadot’s mouth is unappealing to heterosexual males.
https://twitter.com/RealLyndaCarter/status/834780320708837377Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Rifleman, @Neoconned, @Father O'Hara, @William Badwhite, @Robert Dunn
25 or so years ago I was driving in suburban DC (VA) with a friend and we saw a really attractive woman standing next to a broken-down Mercedes convertible. We pulled over to help and it was Lynda Carter. She was very nice, very polite, and had a good sense of humor (or at least rolled with our endless Wonder Woman jibes).
As I was driving her to a friend’s house she said “I bet you’re wondering why I didn’t just fly my invisible airplane”.
She was classically beautiful. She’ll be beautiful in her 80’s.
https://twitter.com/RealLyndaCarter/status/834780320708837377Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Rifleman, @Neoconned, @Father O'Hara, @William Badwhite, @Robert Dunn
This picture works like Viagra!
I think ‘San Andreas’ was a great movie.