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Women’s March Endorses Zeroth Amendment:
“Rooted in the promise of America’s call for huddled masses yearning to breathe free, we believe in immigrant and refugee rights regardless of status or country of origin. It is our moral duty to keep families together and empower all aspiring Americans to fully participate in, and contribute to, our economy and society. We reject mass deportation, family detention, violations of due process and violence against queer and trans migrants. Immigration reform must establish a roadmap to citizenship, and provide equal opportunities and workplace protections for all. We recognize that the call to action to love our neighbor is not limited to the United States, because there is a global migration crisis. We believe migration is a human right and that no human being is illegal.”
When will leftists realize that everything they’ve been fighting for is jeopardized by mass third world immigration: good wages for low income workers, economic and social equality, environmental protections, rising living standards for African Americans etc. People like Cesar Chavez, Barbara Jordan, and Samuel Gompers all understood this. Will today’s leftists wake up before it’s too late, or have we already passed the point of no return?
Never?
The problem with immigration is it turns into a political doomsday machine, a juggernaut of ever-expanding special interest groups that make it ever harder to say rationally, okay, we’ve reached severely diminishing returns with mass immigration, so time for a timeout.
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“It is our moral duty to keep families together and empower all aspiring Americans to fully participate in, and contribute to, our economy and society.”
Wait a minute. Femmies tell us that the nuclear or traditional family is dead, and we should be creative with family formations. So, it’s cool to be a single-mother. It’s cool for guys to hump different ho’s and not play role of father. It’s cool for homos to pretend they had a kid together. It’s cool for white folks to buy/adopt black babies in Africa and separate black kids from black parents and cultures.
BUT… we must do everything to keep those immigrant families together. All of a sudden, it’s Traditional Family Values?
Gimme a break.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/01/17/10-killed-29-wounded-in-mlk-day-weekend-shootings/
what's really interesting is the "aspiring Americans" part. How nice that these people want to be Americans! because before it was all about multiculturalism and bi, tri, quad lingual-ism. Do we get to make them into English speaking Americans now?
“Rooted in the promise of America’s call for huddled masses yearning to breathe free, we believe in immigrant and refugee rights regardless of status or country of origin.”
Rooted? The only people with ancient roots to American Soil are the native Americans, aka Indians. They lost their lands to the White Man, but as long as America is White Nation, the Indian Narrative stands strong and powerful: “White man, you took our land, so you owe us something.” Double-layered America is about Indian Land paved over by White Land.
But more immigration means White Land get paved over by more and more newcomers or mass invaders. And then Indian Narrative will get buried deeper below more and more layers of invasion. Indian Narrative will get more and more lost and neglected.
Roots of American history is that white folks took land from red folks. White folks owe something to red folks. White folks owe nothing to ANYONE else(except blacks brought as slaves). To be sure, there are regional variances. Whites owe something to Hawaiians but ONLY IN Hawaii. And same goes for Eskimos, but ONLY IN Alaska.
Immigrant Argument is like saying “Since John took from Bob, John owes Jerry.” No, John owes Bob something. To Jerry, nothing.
Bring back Plymouth Rock narrative. Hell with Ellis Island… and Tinsel Town and Silly Valley.
Whenever the progs talk about Native Americans/Indians, it's always in the past tense. They consider Indians to be, for all intents and purposes, extinct. That's why you rarely ever hear them talking about investing in reservations, where contemporary Indians live in poverty often much worse than what you would find in the ghetto.
For progs, Indians are like Neanderthals: white Americans might have some traces of their DNA, like Elizabeth Warren, but as a distinct race they're no more.
Rather, what happened to the Indians just means that white Americans have no right to complain about going extinct too. Black and brown peoples are entitled to come to America and outbreed whites.
So ultimately, that's why progs can be indignant about what happened to Indians, but never propose or do anything that would benefit their communities. For them, Indians are gone, so white people deserve the same fate. It would be like if barbarians conquered and massacred all of Greece: too bad, they deserved it for killing off then Trojans.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon, @Jefferson, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @Expletive Deleted
well, there are ZERO treaty obligations up there.
The Eskimos still largely pray with russian-language prayerbooks. Send them to Putin.
It would leave a LOT more alcohol for Elmendorf.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon
I think your equation is wrong; it should be restated as:
Since George took from Geronimo, Juan and Maria will take it from George. This will make everything right because Juan and Maria have a little bit of Geronimo in them.Replies: @Anon
Is there not a single politician in the country willing to point out that this stupid poem has nothing to do the Statue of Liberty or America’s “founding ideals?” How does the GOP establishment think their arguments are going to win, when they refuse to push back against the idea that nothing is more important than people’s emotions?
Where the hell did that part come from?
And who’s being violent toward “queer and trans migrants”?
How about other migrants?
Whenever leftists make talk like “it is our moral duty to keep families together,” I always hear “patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel” ringing in my ears. (I’m also reminded of a quote about somebody reaching for his revolver)
No-fault divorce, and laws encouraging divorce (generous bennies for single mothers, child support laws, welfare state, settlement laws), are an article of faith for leftists (to say nothing of their undermining of the institution with their homo/pervert “marriage” agenda). Leftism has been breaking up families for more than half a century. Now they want to wrap themselves in the flag of family unity?
Open borders are an article of faith for leftists. Open borders and tolerance of illegal immigration encourage breadwinners to leave their families and cross borders in search of higher wages.
Open borders drive down wages for the working class, making it harder for them to start families.
If criminal infiltrators were all that worried about family unity, they wouldn’t leave their families behind to jump our borders.
“Moral duty.” WTF are leftists to speak of moral duty?
P.S., criminal infiltrators aren’t illegal – they’re criminals.
Nassim Taleb recently accused the left of only being to “model” to the first order. So they they love unlimited immigration because feels, but fail to see beyond the immediate (aka unintended consequences, such as the destruction of the black family by “Great Society” policies). This concept really captures the essence of the difficulties of do much leftist policy. I’d also posit that the cognitive dissonance capacity of the average leftist is far greater than those on the right.
Of course, part of the charm is intentional proliferation of clients for their giant cradle-to-grave administrative/welfare state. They always had the solution, they're just in search of a big enough problem to match it with. (cf. the proposed solutions to deal with inclement weather, which were identical to those proposed for the "population bomb" and impending ice age - the solution stays the same, while the problems to justify it may change).
It seems contradictory but the cause doesn’t matter. It’s whatever can serve as a battering ram against the old order, to turn everything upside down. Muslims, illegal aliens, blacks, sexual minorities all serve as vehicles for this. It’s not that they love the people on whose behalf they are advocating, it’s that they hate the existing society and most people in it. It’s a cudgel against them.
These women marchers are women with empty lives who’ve turned the personal outward into public politics. Hillary Clinton’s actions as Secretary of State caused tens of thousands of people to die unnecessarily and plunged hundreds of thousands into misery. Did they march against her? That would have made more sense but all we heard was the sound of crickets. The organizers of these protests have their own motives different from that of the dummy feel-good picket sign bearers. They’d be better off sticking to animal rescue causes than getting in over their heads with things that they don’t really understand. It’s all just group therapy for these dopes to have a good cry and hugs all around as they take puffs from the SJW opium pipe.
The left’s decision to declare open war on Middle America was just a little bit too soon.
Here’s a great article from the Columbus Dispatch:
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2017/01/15/trumps-ohio-win-truly-was-historic.html#
In other words, a lot of white people who had never voted for a Republican before, especially poorer ones in rural and small town areas, voted for Trump.
I don't think so, I think they just failed to anticipate that Middle (White) America would find an ally like Trump.
If Trump hadn't come along and the GOP was putting up Yeb! there would have been no problem with open war against us.
Muslim immigrant Omar Mateen probably killed more queer immigrants in one day than all 200 million white Americans have killed in the past 50 years.
He did indeed, but the Left Wing megaphone spread their fake news narrative and blamed the Pulse nightclub massacre on Republican hate, even though Omar Mateen comes from a family of Crooked Cankles groupies. Remember when father Mateen was at one of her rallies in Florida.
Muslims are playing for keeps.
Judging by that “they”dude,I would steer clear of trans and queer illegals.
Excellent observation. Excellent advice.
Amoral duty appears to be the order of the day in the marcher world. The impact on millions of Americans does not register on their scale of morality, even as lowered wages, increased costs and attendant problems directly tied to uncontrolled immigration continue to afflict the land.
When did such groups become so shameless that public ridicule became ineffective? That represents the moral and other defects inherent in such groups.
“>And who’s being violent toward “queer and trans migrants”?
I’m guessing the queer and trans migrants on the incoming boat full of Syrians (or Moroccans, or Pakistanis, etc.) would be wise to stow away the rainbow flags.
Same goes for Christians and their crucifixes, come to think of it. Not that anyone cares about them.
When you get down to the nub of it, all Leftist politics is basically nothing more than Theater of the Absurd . . .
Okay I get it! We must have population growth.The consequences are, in the near term, Stagnation, at worse and in the far term , De-stagnation.
So bring them in at a controlled fashion.and we can have stability
or
bring them in an un-controlled fashion prepare for unrest.
The next 10 years is going to see a huge elimination of low skill jobs due to automation- perhaps a number equal to ten percent of the workforce.Replies: @Kyle McKenna, @Barnard
This is a good question to ask of leftist true believers like Freddie DeBoer, but they are a minority. Most professional leftists don’t really care about that stuff. It’s just a racket.
So too with Leftism -- there is no end goal or end game. It's just a bunch of individuals each trying to maximize his own social status, self-satisfaction, and material gains without any regard to the ultimate consequences for society as a whole.
In their considered view, whether wages, equality, environment, living standards, et al., will all be addressed by the correct and proper policies and legislation, e.g. minimum wage or living wage laws, mandates imposed from Washington, more spending and more spending.
There's a reason they're leftists--their imagination is a flight of fancy and an escape from reality.
These women marchers are women with empty lives who've turned the personal outward into public politics. Hillary Clinton's actions as Secretary of State caused tens of thousands of people to die unnecessarily and plunged hundreds of thousands into misery. Did they march against her? That would have made more sense but all we heard was the sound of crickets. The organizers of these protests have their own motives different from that of the dummy feel-good picket sign bearers. They'd be better off sticking to animal rescue causes than getting in over their heads with things that they don't really understand. It's all just group therapy for these dopes to have a good cry and hugs all around as they take puffs from the SJW opium pipe.Replies: @EdwardM
Good point. The left over the last 50 years has really been about nihilism. Starting in the ’60s by despising the nuclear family, promoting drug use, sympathy to communism, and antipathy to law and order. By the ’90s it became political correctness, blank-slatism and “multiculturalism,” emancipation of children, and promoting homosexuality, and recently the leading edge has been about transgenderism. We are already starting to see, as commentors here frequently cite, normalization of pedophilia (and, relatedly, extending the nullification of gender identity to children), zoophilia, and extreme animal “rights” as the next frontiers in destroying everything that defines modern Western civilization. Lord knows what will be next.
A funny phenomenon has been the rise of Trump as a kind of nihilism as the last way for normal Americans to fight back. I started supporting him early on in the hopes that, even if I didn’t know what would come next and I assumed I’d be disappointed if he won, I figured that it would be worth it if he destroyed the Republican establishment. As Lot mentions, plenty of non-conservatives supported him in the general election as a visceral backlash to BLM, transgender bathrooms, Lena Dunham, etc., without as much regard to his ideology or policy proposals.
Trump is really a symptom of a cold civil war in America. But I have been delighted in the substance that he has shown so far. It really is possible that he will move us at least a few steps back from the precipice.
But more immigration means White Land get paved over by more and more newcomers or mass invaders. And then Indian Narrative will get buried deeper below more and more layers of invasion. Indian Narrative will get more and more lost and neglected. Roots of American history is that white folks took land from red folks. White folks owe something to red folks. White folks owe nothing to ANYONE else(except blacks brought as slaves). To be sure, there are regional variances. Whites owe something to Hawaiians but ONLY IN Hawaii. And same goes for Eskimos, but ONLY IN Alaska. Immigrant Argument is like saying "Since John took from Bob, John owes Jerry." No, John owes Bob something. To Jerry, nothing. Bring back Plymouth Rock narrative. Hell with Ellis Island... and Tinsel Town and Silly Valley.Replies: @europeasant, @Sid, @Karl, @anon
Not being an original settler I “Feel No Guilt” to anyone here or abroad.
So bring them in at a controlled fashion.and we can have stability
or
bring them in an un-controlled fashion prepare for unrest.Replies: @Bill Jones
Why the need for population growth?
The next 10 years is going to see a huge elimination of low skill jobs due to automation- perhaps a number equal to ten percent of the workforce.
Emma Lazarus, author of that poem, according to wikipedia:
She exclusively helped Jewish refugees and advocated for a Jewish homeland that excludes non-Jews.
It baffles me that people reference Emma Lazarus (and Gandhi) as some icons of post-racial, zero pride in one group over another racial harmony.
The last thing the high-minded upper crust Jews (think Reform or Reconstructionist) wanted was for their ghetto numb-nutz cousins (think Cousin Pookie and Ray-Ray from Belz) to queer their deal in the USA.
Emma Lazarus was preaching as much to her fellow wealthy Jews in America as she was to the goyim.
You should read up on the Jewish Civil War (Haskala). It is still going on and explains a lot of Israeli and American conflict.Replies: @guest, @Karl
…When will leftists realize that everything they’ve been fighting for is jeopardized by mass third world immigration…?
Never?
Ah, this one is so easy! They will be satisfied when everyone in the world is an American Leftist. Nothing less will do, as it would constitute a severe moral failing.
We are instructed by God to be missionaries to the world and civilize them at gunpoint if necessary… strike*&*&^^%$#&&^that. We must save them! Think of the children!
Yeah, when’s the last time you’ve heard the potential descendants of present immigrants mentioned in any discussion of the merits of immigration? Jason Richwine had to go because he pointed out that Mexicans might not be the “new Italians”. Likewise, there’s always a furious Frontlash whenever there’s a Muslim terrorist attack and the jihadist was a 2nd or 3rd generation westerner. I honestly don’t think even people like Chuck Schumer or Dick Durbin have given much thought to the 4th or 5th generation Hispanic Americans currently alive and what their situation might imply about our current immigration policy.
Women are like that too. They can’t see further than what is in front of them.
My dear Mr. Sailer, the problem with immigration is that it kills the goose that laid “the golden door.”
But more immigration means White Land get paved over by more and more newcomers or mass invaders. And then Indian Narrative will get buried deeper below more and more layers of invasion. Indian Narrative will get more and more lost and neglected. Roots of American history is that white folks took land from red folks. White folks owe something to red folks. White folks owe nothing to ANYONE else(except blacks brought as slaves). To be sure, there are regional variances. Whites owe something to Hawaiians but ONLY IN Hawaii. And same goes for Eskimos, but ONLY IN Alaska. Immigrant Argument is like saying "Since John took from Bob, John owes Jerry." No, John owes Bob something. To Jerry, nothing. Bring back Plymouth Rock narrative. Hell with Ellis Island... and Tinsel Town and Silly Valley.Replies: @europeasant, @Sid, @Karl, @anon
“And then Indian Narrative will get buried deeper below more and more layers of invasion. Indian Narrative will get more and more lost and neglected.”
Whenever the progs talk about Native Americans/Indians, it’s always in the past tense. They consider Indians to be, for all intents and purposes, extinct. That’s why you rarely ever hear them talking about investing in reservations, where contemporary Indians live in poverty often much worse than what you would find in the ghetto.
For progs, Indians are like Neanderthals: white Americans might have some traces of their DNA, like Elizabeth Warren, but as a distinct race they’re no more.
Rather, what happened to the Indians just means that white Americans have no right to complain about going extinct too. Black and brown peoples are entitled to come to America and outbreed whites.
So ultimately, that’s why progs can be indignant about what happened to Indians, but never propose or do anything that would benefit their communities. For them, Indians are gone, so white people deserve the same fate. It would be like if barbarians conquered and massacred all of Greece: too bad, they deserved it for killing off then Trojans.
Okay, then whites should be seen as the New Indians since they are the Settler Race.
So, all newcomers are invaders displacing the original white communities.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/uashat-maliotenam-innu-suicides-coroner-report-1.3936156
5 natives commit suicide, Whitey to blame. Coroner's report uses word "apartheid." Government programs to the rescue!Replies: @Dr. X, @Sid, @Seth Largo
I've noticed as much too. Back in the 70s, Indian causes were popular among fashionable liberals (Marlon Brando refusing his Oscar, movies like Billy Jack, the Alcatraz occupation, etc.). Now they really don't give a s**t. As you say, it's as if they were extinct.Replies: @Sid, @ChrisZ
Or is it OK if you do it on horseback with bows&arrows, authentically, like Indians?
(I'm ignoring the Kurds and Armenians for geographical reasons. Not just because I don't want to touch that little tar-baby .. ).Replies: @Sid
Wait a minute. Femmies tell us that the nuclear or traditional family is dead, and we should be creative with family formations. So, it's cool to be a single-mother. It's cool for guys to hump different ho's and not play role of father. It's cool for homos to pretend they had a kid together. It's cool for white folks to buy/adopt black babies in Africa and separate black kids from black parents and cultures.
BUT... we must do everything to keep those immigrant families together. All of a sudden, it's Traditional Family Values?
Gimme a break.Replies: @SFG, @International Jew, @backup, @anonymous, @stillCARealist
The dirty little secret of political ideologies is that they have to be constructed to keep all the various groups together. The GOP had to only contend with keeping businessmen and the white working class together. The Dems have to keep feminists, environmentalists, blacks, Latinos, Muslims, LGBT, unions, rich urban liberals, and Jews (present company excepted) together, so their ideology tends to be a lot more…elastic.
So I wonder if they are against Obama’s decision to expel 35 Russian diplomats in retaliation for Russia “electing” Trump. Would this go against their ideals of allowing anyone into American regardless of status or country of origin?
Obama and Hillary told us that Trump’s plan to ban new Muslims from coming to America was dangerous because it would make Muslims mad and more likely to attack us. But for some reason this same logic doesn’t apply to nuclear-armed Russia. Wouldn’t Russia retaliate against us for kicking out their diplomats? They didn’t maybe because they knew that Trump was just around the corner.
Anyways, Obama’s immigration policy can be summed up as:
“Muslims kill Americans, bring in more Muslims. Russians don’t kill any Americans, expel Russians.”
Here's a great article from the Columbus Dispatch:
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2017/01/15/trumps-ohio-win-truly-was-historic.html#In other words, a lot of white people who had never voted for a Republican before, especially poorer ones in rural and small town areas, voted for Trump.Replies: @Kyle McKenna, @27 year old, @Buffalo Joe
Wow. That there’s good info! I wonder how many other states possess such counties. One thing for sure: the MSM isn’t going to spill those beans.
Whenever the progs talk about Native Americans/Indians, it's always in the past tense. They consider Indians to be, for all intents and purposes, extinct. That's why you rarely ever hear them talking about investing in reservations, where contemporary Indians live in poverty often much worse than what you would find in the ghetto.
For progs, Indians are like Neanderthals: white Americans might have some traces of their DNA, like Elizabeth Warren, but as a distinct race they're no more.
Rather, what happened to the Indians just means that white Americans have no right to complain about going extinct too. Black and brown peoples are entitled to come to America and outbreed whites.
So ultimately, that's why progs can be indignant about what happened to Indians, but never propose or do anything that would benefit their communities. For them, Indians are gone, so white people deserve the same fate. It would be like if barbarians conquered and massacred all of Greece: too bad, they deserved it for killing off then Trojans.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon, @Jefferson, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @Expletive Deleted
Trump should move the CIA headquarters to the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota to boost the local economy.
The next 10 years is going to see a huge elimination of low skill jobs due to automation- perhaps a number equal to ten percent of the workforce.Replies: @Kyle McKenna, @Barnard
Indeed. Even aside from the reduced need for labor, there is the destruction to the natural environment. Who here really thinks that America is healthier with 320 million than it was with 160 million? Who thinks it will be healthier with 500 million? Not least given that most will be third-world types by then. Might even be a third-world country.
That really is a big part of it. The debit side of the ledger--crowding, pollution, lowered social trust--is diffuse or borne by others. Nobody believes they'll end up like the Savopoulos family.
Households, business and government have all leveraged themselves far into the future, which means the economy either expands, or a lot of rich become poor. The fact that the debit side will eventually overwhelm even the short-term gains is ignored. Everybody assumes they'll be smart enough to cash in their chips and bug out when things get hairy. The middle-class schleps who support their own displacement can't or won't perceive this and their heads are filled with universalist goo.Replies: @Kyle McKenna
But who gets to lead this march? Black women, Muslim women, women from El Salvador and Guatemala, white Hillary supporters, Jewish Hillary supporters, transgendered women, or lesbians?
Since "leadership" is a white male thing (i.e., the evil Trump) and it is a structural attribute of sexist society and the oppression of the patriarchy, I'd guess there will be no "leadership," just the communal cooperation of women wearing knitted pussy hats.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/thousands-are-knitting-pussy-hats-for-the-womens-march-on-washington_us_586bb22ee4b0d9a5945c636aReplies: @Jefferson, @Karl
What really kills me about this “we so compassionate” argument is that none of these people is willing to open his or her nice suburban home to “the huddled masses”. I mean, please, if you want refugees, give some refuge! Property values? Your children? The smell? Put up or shut up!
Parallels between the nation and one’s home are not always valid. But it seems to me that in the case of immigration and open borders, the argument is valid. Open borders are like open doors. Families and close neighbors (e.g. the states of the United States and to some extent the nations of Europe) have an open door policy. But I have yet to see these bleeding heart liberals open their doors to bums, violent criminals, “undocumented workers” or pathetic refugees.
The hypocrisy is epic.
They don’t seem to realize this sort of thing is why Trump won. The left seems intent in wandering in the desert for a while.
What they need is another Bill Clinton centrist. They’ll have to learn this the hard way apparently.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/has-lindsay-lohan-converted-to-islam-111756425.html
Fortunately we have Lindsay Lohan to represent the Muslim demographic.
Fortunately we have Lindsay Lohan to represent the Muslim demographic.<<
I so much want this to be true.Replies: @Mr. Anon
What Lindsay Lohan has in common with the 9/11 Muslim terrorists is that they all love cocaine.Replies: @Kyle McKenna
The only thing that will save this country from injustice and disaster is making sure white people lose their primacy and privilege
Immigration does just that. It makes it harder for whites to transfer wealth to their children and perpetuate white privileged through low taxation and less government
Whenever the progs talk about Native Americans/Indians, it's always in the past tense. They consider Indians to be, for all intents and purposes, extinct. That's why you rarely ever hear them talking about investing in reservations, where contemporary Indians live in poverty often much worse than what you would find in the ghetto.
For progs, Indians are like Neanderthals: white Americans might have some traces of their DNA, like Elizabeth Warren, but as a distinct race they're no more.
Rather, what happened to the Indians just means that white Americans have no right to complain about going extinct too. Black and brown peoples are entitled to come to America and outbreed whites.
So ultimately, that's why progs can be indignant about what happened to Indians, but never propose or do anything that would benefit their communities. For them, Indians are gone, so white people deserve the same fate. It would be like if barbarians conquered and massacred all of Greece: too bad, they deserved it for killing off then Trojans.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon, @Jefferson, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @Expletive Deleted
“Whenever the progs talk about Native Americans/Indians, it’s always in the past tense. They consider Indians to be, for all intents and purposes, extinct. That’s why you rarely ever hear them talking about investing in reservations, where contemporary Indians live in poverty often much worse than what you would find in the ghetto.”
Okay, then whites should be seen as the New Indians since they are the Settler Race.
So, all newcomers are invaders displacing the original white communities.
Yeah… who would have thought they could turn communism into a bourgeois affectation???
Well, obviously we have some intersectionality going on here.
Since “leadership” is a white male thing (i.e., the evil Trump) and it is a structural attribute of sexist society and the oppression of the patriarchy, I’d guess there will be no “leadership,” just the communal cooperation of women wearing knitted pussy hats.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/thousands-are-knitting-pussy-hats-for-the-womens-march-on-washington_us_586bb22ee4b0d9a5945c636a
Since “leadership” is a white male thing (i.e., the evil Trump) and it is a structural attribute of sexist society and the oppression of the patriarchy, I’d guess there will be no “leadership,” just the communal cooperation of women wearing knitted pussy hats."
Can women with penises wear those knitted pussy hats as well?
Around here, a knitted kippah means you accept that the Knesset is more important than some rebbe.
By the way, I notice that there are NINE different sorts of "yarmulke" which have been assigned US National Stock Numbers in Haystack
Also helpful in the Modern Orthodox Mating Game:
https://www.datingcoachsos.com/kippah-single-orthodox-jewish-dating/
I don't recall any pictures of Jared Kushner wearing one of ANY variety. Of course, he still has a full head of hair. That's a mating signal, right there.
The next 10 years is going to see a huge elimination of low skill jobs due to automation- perhaps a number equal to ten percent of the workforce.Replies: @Kyle McKenna, @Barnard
The argument is we need population growth to pay for health care and pensions for the 25-30 years the average person wants to live after he stops working.
Whenever the progs talk about Native Americans/Indians, it's always in the past tense. They consider Indians to be, for all intents and purposes, extinct. That's why you rarely ever hear them talking about investing in reservations, where contemporary Indians live in poverty often much worse than what you would find in the ghetto.
For progs, Indians are like Neanderthals: white Americans might have some traces of their DNA, like Elizabeth Warren, but as a distinct race they're no more.
Rather, what happened to the Indians just means that white Americans have no right to complain about going extinct too. Black and brown peoples are entitled to come to America and outbreed whites.
So ultimately, that's why progs can be indignant about what happened to Indians, but never propose or do anything that would benefit their communities. For them, Indians are gone, so white people deserve the same fate. It would be like if barbarians conquered and massacred all of Greece: too bad, they deserved it for killing off then Trojans.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon, @Jefferson, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @Expletive Deleted
“For progs, Indians are like Neanderthals: white Americans might have some traces of their DNA, like Elizabeth Warren,”
Elizabeth Warren doesn’t have any Native American DNA. If she did she would post her 23AndMe or AncestryByDNA results for the whole world to see on Twitter, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, etc.
I am 100 percent confident she did take a DNA test and she didn’t like the unbearable Whiteness of her ancestry results. After all those things only cost $100 dollars to take and Elizabeth Warren pulls in a 6 figure yearly income, so she can easily afford it.
But there’s reason to be optimistic.
Hahaha, just kidding.
Professional Leftists are an even smaller minority. The vast majority of Leftists are virtue-signallers and it is in fact virtuous to care at least somewhat about those matters. Making the case that immigration harms them is not enough on its own, but it is hard work that still needs doing. The Left’s unwillingness to any longer do that work is what underlies their unraveling influence.
Whenever the progs talk about Native Americans/Indians, it's always in the past tense. They consider Indians to be, for all intents and purposes, extinct. That's why you rarely ever hear them talking about investing in reservations, where contemporary Indians live in poverty often much worse than what you would find in the ghetto.
For progs, Indians are like Neanderthals: white Americans might have some traces of their DNA, like Elizabeth Warren, but as a distinct race they're no more.
Rather, what happened to the Indians just means that white Americans have no right to complain about going extinct too. Black and brown peoples are entitled to come to America and outbreed whites.
So ultimately, that's why progs can be indignant about what happened to Indians, but never propose or do anything that would benefit their communities. For them, Indians are gone, so white people deserve the same fate. It would be like if barbarians conquered and massacred all of Greece: too bad, they deserved it for killing off then Trojans.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon, @Jefferson, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @Expletive Deleted
Up here in Canada the Injun issue gets big play. Progs in Canada love their “First Nations.” Here’s a recent development:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/uashat-maliotenam-innu-suicides-coroner-report-1.3936156
5 natives commit suicide, Whitey to blame. Coroner’s report uses word “apartheid.” Government programs to the rescue!
https://mises.org/blog/few-gun-laws-new-hampshire-safer-canadaReplies: @BenKenobi, @Hapalong Cassidy
I bet a lot of it is that Canada had such a rigorous immigration system until recently that there really weren't that many NAMs they could feel guilty about. Hence, First Peoples had to be their guilt trip.
With Trudeau taking in Syrian refugees, we'll have to see what happens. Maybe in 20 years, Canadians will have forgotten about First Peoples and their problems?Replies: @Anon
What they need is another Bill Clinton centrist. They'll have to learn this the hard way apparently.Replies: @Desiderius
That’s what Trump is. He’s stolen their thunder.
The funny thing is, it could have been Hillary delivering at least some of that desired message but she ignored the good advice of the actual real life Bill Clinton. After all, she had Robbie Mook, lol.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3935800/Days-losing-election-Hillary-Bill-Clinton-sceaming-match-blame-flagging-campaign-ex-president-angry-threw-phone-roof-Arkansas-penthouse.html
In terms of bad judgment, we really dodged a bullet with that one.Replies: @Expletive Deleted
“Muslim immigrant Omar Mateen probably killed more queer immigrants in one day than all 200 million white Americans have killed in the past 50 years.”
He did indeed, but the Left Wing megaphone spread their fake news narrative and blamed the Pulse nightclub massacre on Republican hate, even though Omar Mateen comes from a family of Crooked Cankles groupies. Remember when father Mateen was at one of her rallies in Florida.
I think they just don’t care. They’ll fix those theoretical problems when they have total political hegemony and they can spend even more enormous sums on social services including birth to eighteen head start. Hispanic and black underperformance and criminality is just evidence to justify more social engineering.
Of course, part of the charm is intentional proliferation of clients for their giant cradle-to-grave administrative/welfare state. They always had the solution, they’re just in search of a big enough problem to match it with. (cf. the proposed solutions to deal with inclement weather, which were identical to those proposed for the “population bomb” and impending ice age – the solution stays the same, while the problems to justify it may change).
Sometimes there is no solution.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/uashat-maliotenam-innu-suicides-coroner-report-1.3936156
5 natives commit suicide, Whitey to blame. Coroner's report uses word "apartheid." Government programs to the rescue!Replies: @Dr. X, @Sid, @Seth Largo
Looks like the “First Nations” up there can be rather homicidal. Seems that the Inuit have the highest homicide rate per 100,00 in North America — even higher than American Negro jurisdictions, if you can believe that!
https://mises.org/blog/few-gun-laws-new-hampshire-safer-canada
http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2011/as-sa/fogs-spg/Facts-pr-eng.cfm?Lang=eng&GC=62
Nunavut is known anecdotally for the misadventures given to the combination of alcoholism and boredom. Same for the extreme-north military outpost Canada maintains there - CFB Alert. Any service person who spends 6 months there is awarded a medal. And Canada is stingy with the medals/ribbons in deliberate contrast to the US military.
OT: Meanwhile, the last man on the Moon died today.
Gene Cernan was 82.
Someday soon, all of the twelve humans who visited another celestial body will have left us. That portion of what made America — and by extension humanity — great will be gone.
The garbage — human, political and other — that preoccupies us now is just that in comparison, garbage.
Another piece of what was America is gone.
Gone forever:
Gene Cernan just died. How many moonwalkers are left?
According to Wikipedia, only six of the twelve are still alive: Buzz Aldrin, Alan Bean, David Scott, John Young, Charlie Duke, and Harrison Schmidt. All in their 80s.
Futurist who said " I always thought I would live long enough to see a man land on the Moon, but I never dreamed I would live to see the last man land on the Moon."Replies: @Kyle McKenna
Women comprise the bulk numbers of diversity
Diversity is a organized, entitlement-seeking, super-majority victim cult popular in the US and Israel.
Women are over 50.5% of the US population, a simple majority.
Women are recognized by the US federal government as a disadvantaged group class, worthy of federal entitlements that grant them illicit privileges versus men.
Diversity leaders support immigration and naturalization as another federal entitlement exclusively for other diversity people.
Their strategy is to increase the number of diversity voters in the US, so that diversity ideology and politicians dominate all federal elections.
Federal entitlements are a form of reward to diversity people for them voting for diversity promoting politicians.
Women already retain multiple illicit federal entitlements:
1. Affirmative Action for women
2. Generous 8A government set-aside business contracts for female owned businesses
3. No required military service or selective service for women
4. Government anti-discrimination laws for women
5. Title VII and Title IX laws for women
6. Rape shield laws protect female liars in court
7 Generous government benefits for single mothers
9. Men get screwed in child custody cases
10.Taxpayer financed Abortion on demand
11. Government sponsored homeless and rehab shelters for women
12. Health insurance policies require universal coverage for female-specific problems
13. Ridiculous feminine political correctness studies and speech codes in public colleges and universities and government offices
14. National Women’s history month
15. Sexual harassment laws for women
16. Special Violence against Women Laws
17. Most cushy government jobs employ women
18. Equal Pay Act of 1963 for women
19. Lowered physical standards by law for female policemen and firemen and soldier
20. Female-only institutions allowed by law, no male-only institutions allowed
21. Battered woman defense allowed in first degree murder court cases
22. Hate speech criminalization laws protecting women and other protected classes
23. Women are a majority of voters in a totalitarian democracy
24. Men pay 96% of all alimony, women pay 4%
25. Women regularly vote themselves entitlements , take no responsibility for the consequences
26. Democrats and Republicans offer new undue legal entitlements to women if they vote for the 2-party system
“The argument is we need population growth to pay for health care and pensions for the 25-30 years the average person wants to live after he stops working.”
Ponzi scheme. Unsustainable. How do we grow the population enough to pay for pensions when the population is at 50 billion?
Fortunately we have Lindsay Lohan to represent the Muslim demographic.Replies: @Daniel H, @Jefferson
>>https://uk.news.yahoo.com/has-lindsay-lohan-converted-to-islam-111756425.html
Fortunately we have Lindsay Lohan to represent the Muslim demographic.<<
I so much want this to be true.
Fortunately we have Lindsay Lohan to represent the Muslim demographic.Replies: @Daniel H, @Jefferson
“Fortunately we have Lindsay Lohan to represent the Muslim demographic.”
What Lindsay Lohan has in common with the 9/11 Muslim terrorists is that they all love cocaine.
“But who gets to lead this march? Black women, Muslim women, women from El Salvador and Guatemala, white Hillary supporters, Jewish Hillary supporters, transgendered women, or lesbians?”
The Negro Tranny from Orange Is The New Black should lead the ‘women’s march”.
I like this ‘most mediocre white people’ list. You can be a Jewish SJW type like Dunham. A UN Womens’ Goodwill Ambassador like Emma Watson, or a winner like Trump. If you are white, you will not be alright.
http://www.latina.com/lifestyle/our-issues/most-mediocre-white-people-2016
A ‘non-mediocre latina’ list?
Since "leadership" is a white male thing (i.e., the evil Trump) and it is a structural attribute of sexist society and the oppression of the patriarchy, I'd guess there will be no "leadership," just the communal cooperation of women wearing knitted pussy hats.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/thousands-are-knitting-pussy-hats-for-the-womens-march-on-washington_us_586bb22ee4b0d9a5945c636aReplies: @Jefferson, @Karl
“Well, obviously we have some intersectionality going on here.
Since “leadership” is a white male thing (i.e., the evil Trump) and it is a structural attribute of sexist society and the oppression of the patriarchy, I’d guess there will be no “leadership,” just the communal cooperation of women wearing knitted pussy hats.”
Can women with penises wear those knitted pussy hats as well?
Tut tut. The only rights that immigrants and refugees have are those granted them by the nations into which they travel.
If I enter any country, be it Iceland, France, Turkey, Thailand, Argentina, or Egypt, on a 90 day tourist visa, I don’t believe I have any right to be there past 90 days. If I enter it illegally, with no visa, I don’t believe I have any right to be there, period. I would encourage whoever came up with this dreamy drivel about rights to row a boat to Japan without any papers and insist on their right to live there (supported by the state, no doubt) and get in a self-righteous huff if Japan begged to differ.
It reminds me of the headline on a recent anarchist magazine cover: “No Borders! No walls between people. No walls in our heads.” I recall twenty years ago when anarchists were rioting in Seattle over Globalization. I guess these days they decided to buy into the Soros philosophy.
Sad.
Ha. Couldn't put it better myself. Of course, without 'walls in their heads' the anarchists sloppy brains would, literally, fall out of their heads. Not that it would make much difference.
The women’s march in Washington DC, where you will have 55 year old childless White women with no kids marching alongside 25 year old Black women who are the mother of 3 kids.
What Lindsay Lohan has in common with the 9/11 Muslim terrorists is that they all love cocaine.Replies: @Kyle McKenna
Also they’re reasonably adept at that crash-and-burn thing.
Marx’s father was a middle-class lawyer, and he was supported Engels, whose father was a rich textile manufacturer. So communism started as a bourgeois affectation.
Ponzi scheme. Unsustainable. How do we grow the population enough to pay for pensions when the population is at 50 billion?Replies: @Kyle McKenna, @Perplexed
The sad thing is, it didn’t have to be that way. But Soc Sec is administered and legislated by politicians, naturally, so it’s hard to make it solvent or even legit. It paid out more than it took in right from the beginning because votes.
It’s sad because Soc Sec is one of the few government programs I’d approve of, otherwise. I’ve seen old people throw away their savings on scams, etc, and Soc Sec is the only thing protecting them from penury.
But yeah, the notion that we need a flood of third-world immigrants to pay for our old age is particularly pernicious.
The issue is now that modern medicine has increased life expectancy significantly just in time for the giant Baby Boomer generation to collect for 30+ years, while child-per-woman fell to below replacement.
In any event, Social Security is a bad deal for anyone who pays in - the opportunity cost foregone is an enormous destruction of wealth over one's working lifetime. It only survives because its popularity rests upon the same principle illustrated by the fact that if I lend you $20, I prefer that you repay me $10 rather than nothing - it's not popular in the sense that I would look forward to lending you another $20.Replies: @Kyle McKenna
So, how did everyone celebrate this year’s MLK day?
8 shot at Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial Park in Miami on MLK Day
Whenever the progs talk about Native Americans/Indians, it's always in the past tense. They consider Indians to be, for all intents and purposes, extinct. That's why you rarely ever hear them talking about investing in reservations, where contemporary Indians live in poverty often much worse than what you would find in the ghetto.
For progs, Indians are like Neanderthals: white Americans might have some traces of their DNA, like Elizabeth Warren, but as a distinct race they're no more.
Rather, what happened to the Indians just means that white Americans have no right to complain about going extinct too. Black and brown peoples are entitled to come to America and outbreed whites.
So ultimately, that's why progs can be indignant about what happened to Indians, but never propose or do anything that would benefit their communities. For them, Indians are gone, so white people deserve the same fate. It would be like if barbarians conquered and massacred all of Greece: too bad, they deserved it for killing off then Trojans.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon, @Jefferson, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @Expletive Deleted
“Whenever the progs talk about Native Americans/Indians, it’s always in the past tense. They consider Indians to be, for all intents and purposes, extinct. That’s why you rarely ever hear them talking about investing in reservations, where contemporary Indians live in poverty often much worse than what you would find in the ghetto.”
I’ve noticed as much too. Back in the 70s, Indian causes were popular among fashionable liberals (Marlon Brando refusing his Oscar, movies like Billy Jack, the Alcatraz occupation, etc.). Now they really don’t give a s**t. As you say, it’s as if they were extinct.
Black people are loud, extroverted and love to complain. Indians tend to be quiet, stoic and consider it unseemly to draw attention to their problems. Black people also actively contribute to US pop culture. Indians rarely do so.
To be fair, SJWs did make a big stink about the pipeline going through Indian lands in North Dakota. Thing is, that was a hopelessly obscure issue. The problem with Hillary was that she had no ideological core. For example, if a prog complained about the banks, that risked drawing attention to Hillary's taking money from them. After awhile, the North Dakota pipeline seemed like the one thing a true believing progressive could complain about without implicating Hillary.Replies: @Jefferson, @duncsbaby, @Whoever, @Mr. Anon
It should also be a lesson to the Left's darling victim groups of the present day: they will only be tolerated for as long as they can advance the careers of the Left's elites; when their utility has expired, they'll be jettisoned in favor of a more docile and attractive victim group.
Fortunately we have Lindsay Lohan to represent the Muslim demographic.<<
I so much want this to be true.Replies: @Mr. Anon
Maybe she became one of those “Instragram Models” and converted after being defiled by Kuwaiti playboys.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/nintchdbpict000276848463.jpg?w=806&strip=all
Probably not a single politician in the country even knows that the stupid poem doesn’t have anything to do with the reason the Statue of Liberty was made. Knowing that in and of itself would be a “hate fact.”
“Gene Cernan just died. How many moonwalkers are left?”
According to Wikipedia, only six of the twelve are still alive: Buzz Aldrin, Alan Bean, David Scott, John Young, Charlie Duke, and Harrison Schmidt. All in their 80s.
“Judging by that “they”dude, I would steer clear of trans and queer illegals.”
Excellent observation. Excellent advice.
I think it’s interesting that whenever one of these Leftist groups takes it upon themselves to propound a statement of principles, they begin by adverting to some hallowed text—either a misquoted Scriptural passage, a moralistic bromide, or in this case the plaque on the Statue of Liberty—to justify their cause. It does no good to point out to them their misuse of the text, to inform them of its original significance and meaning. It’s not as if they actually derived the impetus for their present action from suddenly being struck by the force of its words. They already had the idea in their minds, they know what they intend to do, and the text is simply summoned on stage to serve as a thin—a very thin, the thinnest, and increasingly unnecessary—pretext for their agitation.
To take up the role of a literary critic, there is a definite pattern to all this. Leftist cant is a genre all its own, with characteristic tropes and structural elements. To one who has learned how to deconstruct it, it becomes even more tedious than it had been before; but this painful step is nonetheless obligatory, for it is vitally important to avoid getting lost in the details of Leftist speechifying. Never react to the words of a Leftist, for their declarations of this sort amount to nothing but purely instrumental sloganeering, the content of which is, in the last analysis, irrelevant. Their actions alone matter, and in this as in every other case their acts are ones of piracy and destruction directed at their host society.
Suppose there was a film of the leaders of this women’s march making their impassioned plea (I don’t know whether there is in fact or not). Now suppose we were to watch this film, not tonight, but 30 or 40 years from now, long after events of 2017 have passed under the bridge. In that case we would be looking not at contemporary troubles to be dealt with, but at “history,” the cold dead echoes the past preserved on a magnetic disk. Then it would be easy to see how completely beside the point were any of the messages scrawled on protest signs or shouted into microphones. The entire significance of the event lies in the action, in the agitation itself, in the anger expressed on the faces, whether somnolently smug or awakened into a crazed and baleful fervence. The protest signs will soon be cast aside and trampled underfoot with all the ceremony of yesterday’s ticker tape, which in light of their merely instrumental vale is what they most in fact resemble.
I fear that Rightists have often in the past expended too much time and energy fighting a fruitless battle of words with Leftist troublemakers. At best this may have helped us to clarify our own positions and cement our own identity, but it advanced the front not one yard. Words and concepts matter only to us, not to them; and the truth of any matter has neither enlightened nor deterred them. Argumentation will become even less useful as time goes on, for, as I mentioned above, the slogans are becoming increasingly unnecessary pretexts. Leftism is approximating more and more to the untrammeled mob violence which is its true form. Under these conditions, the Right must steel itself to become what it truly is—literally the defender of civilization. The time for education and debate is over, for that presumes good will on the part of one’s opponent. The stark choice is now before us to either preserve our patrimony or let it sink into the fallow wastes engendered by Leftist savagery. To carry the torch, or heed the plaque.
The Left by nature does not value or even recognize the authority of texts -- whether the Bible, the Constitution, or the classics of literature and philosophy. All of these it puts down as tainted by the self-interest of the authors, who were blinkered and biased by their times.
It's the Right that values and even reveres texts; they are our way of conversing with, and learning from, the serious thinkers of the past. For the Right, the very persistence of those texts marks them as high points of human achievement, which in itself lends them authority and a right of deferential consideration when we try to think about matters in our own time.
The Left views this deference to textual authority as kind of weakness of the Right: a chink in the armor through which weapons can be thrust, or a double-edged instrument that can be turned against its user. So when the Left invokes the authority of a text, you can be sure it is not being invoked as a universal authority over mankind, but only over that fraction of mankind that recognizes authority to begin with, i.e. the Right.
So for example, when someone on our side makes a reference to the gospels, what he usually means is that this text should be considered a guide to human action generally. If someone on the Left cites the same text, he's usually using it to embarrass opponents on the Right, expose our alleged hypocrisy, or bully us into accepting new "authorized" marching orders. "You guys follow the gospel? Well, here's what the gospels REALLY say about [whatever topic]. Since you bow to their authority, it's time you get with the program!"
I find that the Left's use of texts almost always has this character of a backhanded slap in the face to the Right. Annoying as it is, it can occasionally have a comic effect, as when Barbra Streisand tried to invoke Shakespeare's authority as an anti-war advocate -- but did so by using some phony lines she had picked up on the internet.
A sordid god: down from his hoary chin
A length of beard descends, uncomb'd, unclean;
His eyes, like hollow furnaces on fire;
A girdle, foul with grease, binds his obscene attire."Lefties want the ferry franchise (From Virgil's Aeneid, as translated by Dryden)
CIA agents should move to Arizona and learn the Navajo language. Russian hackers would be befuddled by that!
I suspect they have people who do Navajo and other Athabascan languages as a hobby. Because Alaska. And because their winters are long and dark.
Wait a minute. Femmies tell us that the nuclear or traditional family is dead, and we should be creative with family formations. So, it's cool to be a single-mother. It's cool for guys to hump different ho's and not play role of father. It's cool for homos to pretend they had a kid together. It's cool for white folks to buy/adopt black babies in Africa and separate black kids from black parents and cultures.
BUT... we must do everything to keep those immigrant families together. All of a sudden, it's Traditional Family Values?
Gimme a break.Replies: @SFG, @International Jew, @backup, @anonymous, @stillCARealist
The same double standard applies to masculinity: it’s “toxic” in a white man, but men “of color” can act as macho as they like.
Thus Harvard suspends the soccer team’s season for mild online lewdness when elsewhere football teams can keep up their rapey ways.
If blacks reject White Civilization and revert to natural way to be more 'real' and 'authentic', they are praised. So, blacks are good to return to tribalism and organismic nature.
But if whites reject 'higher principles' of civilization and return to tribal and organismic nature of 'our survival', then they are eeeeeeeevil.
So, blacks must reconnect with their 'savage' nature but whites must repress their 'barbarian' nature.
Purely from a political viewpoint, it is somewhat understandable. White Civilization favored whites over blacks, not least because it was built by whites, and people usually build systems to favor their own kind. It's like Israel was built to favor Jews, not Palestinians.
So, civilization is seen as tool of oppression in the hands of whites but as iron heel of repression on the necks of blacks. So, blacks have a right to reject civilization and go 'natural' because it fills them with warrior rage and anger. But whites must not go 'natural' in emotions because they have no moral justification for warrior souls.
But then, even as blacks are encouraged to reject white civilization, they are also encouraged to make demands from it. After all, without the fruits of white civilization, what would blacks have?
Whites are not allowed to reconnect with their 'barbarian' nature, and they must stick to civilization... but only as producers than leaders. Whites must maintain civilization and uphold its 'highest ideals' of universalism. They must never think tribally or barbarically(except for the white women in the realm of sexuality of 'slut pride'). Whites must run and maintain civilization but not own it.
So, whites are in a bind. They cannot reconnect with their 'nature' and must stick to civilization, but they must not own civilization as their own proud creation. They must keep civilization going as atonement and produce lots of stuff to be 'shared' with non-whites.
The Company needs to bone up on its SMOSIGINT.
Oh, I totally agree. I included Pocahontas to be facetious. She’s a total fraud, but there are a lot of white people who have traces of Indian ancestry. (My family is white and we thought we had some Indian ancestry because my grandfather was so dark. DNA tests said we don’t.)
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/sopranos/images/1/13/Vito1.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20110531205022Replies: @Anonymous, @Frau Katze
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/uashat-maliotenam-innu-suicides-coroner-report-1.3936156
5 natives commit suicide, Whitey to blame. Coroner's report uses word "apartheid." Government programs to the rescue!Replies: @Dr. X, @Sid, @Seth Largo
Really interesting, thanks.
I bet a lot of it is that Canada had such a rigorous immigration system until recently that there really weren’t that many NAMs they could feel guilty about. Hence, First Peoples had to be their guilt trip.
With Trudeau taking in Syrian refugees, we’ll have to see what happens. Maybe in 20 years, Canadians will have forgotten about First Peoples and their problems?
Really well-made if a bit thin. A movie where the white man has become the Indian.
The main characters are dead-end white males robbing to provide for a future generation. They make the connection between them and injuns a little too explicit, with one of the two referring to himself as a Comanche.Replies: @Anon, @jill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSsGd7ilqws
http://stepfeed.com/dna-analysis-proves-arabs-aren-t-entirely-arab-4864;c=stepfeed
The right, real, comparison to make with the lefty fixation with massive, uncontrolled, third world immigration is with the fanaticism of the devotees of various religious cults.
How come none of these proglodytes ever quote the “wretched refuse of your teeming shores” part of the that insipid commie’s asinine poem they like so bad?
Human beings aren’t illegal, the acts they commit are.
“Immigration reform must establish a roadmap to citizenship, and provide equal opportunities and workplace protections for all.”
Objection, you honor! This self-contradictory sentence sets up an impossible task, even if the individual spewing it is too clueless and ignorant to see it. I request their case be dismissed, with prejudice.
She also had an unrequited crush on her first cousin, which sounds weird to us, but not to a community where avuncular marriage was once common, and still legal in their Newport playground.Replies: @Alec Leamas
https://mises.org/blog/few-gun-laws-new-hampshire-safer-canadaReplies: @BenKenobi, @Hapalong Cassidy
Canada split the North-West Territories pretty much in two on April 1, 1999 (great day to pick), creating the new territory Nunavut, an expression of Eskimo autonomy. This territory is known for its sky-high crime-per-capita rates. Probably because of it’s ridiculous denisty rate — roughly 31,000 people living in an area 1.87 million miles square.
http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2011/as-sa/fogs-spg/Facts-pr-eng.cfm?Lang=eng&GC=62
Nunavut is known anecdotally for the misadventures given to the combination of alcoholism and boredom. Same for the extreme-north military outpost Canada maintains there – CFB Alert. Any service person who spends 6 months there is awarded a medal. And Canada is stingy with the medals/ribbons in deliberate contrast to the US military.
Men are not all that interested in what women have to say.
Someone should explain that to these women.
If I enter any country, be it Iceland, France, Turkey, Thailand, Argentina, or Egypt, on a 90 day tourist visa, I don't believe I have any right to be there past 90 days. If I enter it illegally, with no visa, I don't believe I have any right to be there, period. I would encourage whoever came up with this dreamy drivel about rights to row a boat to Japan without any papers and insist on their right to live there (supported by the state, no doubt) and get in a self-righteous huff if Japan begged to differ.
It reminds me of the headline on a recent anarchist magazine cover: "No Borders! No walls between people. No walls in our heads." I recall twenty years ago when anarchists were rioting in Seattle over Globalization. I guess these days they decided to buy into the Soros philosophy.
Sad.Replies: @Anonymous, @Forbes
‘No walls in our heads’.
Ha. Couldn’t put it better myself. Of course, without ‘walls in their heads’ the anarchists sloppy brains would, literally, fall out of their heads. Not that it would make much difference.
The liberal left has been increasing lukewarm about economic communism since the early 60s. In part this is because their liberal right sponsors (such as the Ford Foundation) have been steering them away from economic issues onto social issues. Free trade and open borders started in the mid 1960s as a proto-neoliberal/neoconservative idea of fighting communism by letting in more non-whites and allowing non-white countries access to US markets (let third world people come to capitalist America and see how fantastic is, and sell there products to US consumers, so they don’t become communists).
Kennedy and Johnson were far more anti-communist than Nixon was. Nixon knew economic communism wasn’t a big threat and was much more concerned with Asian economic competition.
Wait a minute. Femmies tell us that the nuclear or traditional family is dead, and we should be creative with family formations. So, it's cool to be a single-mother. It's cool for guys to hump different ho's and not play role of father. It's cool for homos to pretend they had a kid together. It's cool for white folks to buy/adopt black babies in Africa and separate black kids from black parents and cultures.
BUT... we must do everything to keep those immigrant families together. All of a sudden, it's Traditional Family Values?
Gimme a break.Replies: @SFG, @International Jew, @backup, @anonymous, @stillCARealist
These are feminists that defend the burka and remained silent after the Cologne rapes. What did you expect?
OT: from the SSC subreddit
Radium-painted dials.
White phosphate in"lucifers".
Gas leaks, and slight carbon monoxide poisoning (on a recurrent nightly basis, from banking the range up, or not trimming the oil lamps assiduously).
Even the roundworm and tapeworm burden many of them carried. Makes you dumb and lethargic.I suppose that's why you just don't see many Victorians around anymore.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Expletive Deleted
Latoya Jackson:
“The liberal left has been increasing lukewarm about economic communism since the early 60s.”
Why does the Left see Fidel Castro and Che Guevara as rock stars if they are not crazy about communism?
Maybe the commenter was attempting to distinguish between the "liberal left" and the "Left" with the former being the ones who have turned away from communism. But either way it wasn't clear.
That’s what Trump is. He’s stolen their thunder.
The funny thing is, it could have been Hillary delivering at least some of that desired message but she ignored the good advice of the actual real life Bill Clinton. After all, she had Robbie Mook, lol.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3935800/Days-losing-election-Hillary-Bill-Clinton-sceaming-match-blame-flagging-campaign-ex-president-angry-threw-phone-roof-Arkansas-penthouse.html
In terms of bad judgment, we really dodged a bullet with that one.
Do these liberal arts clowns we keep on electing not have even the slightest interest in security?Replies: @Anonym
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQoqsKoJVDwReplies: @guest, @jill
I loved that one, though I love lots of heist movies. There’s a scene where the cop characters–one white, one Indian–discuss how the town they’re in used to be the Red Man’s. Then the whites took it. Now industry has moved, there are no jobs, and the banks are taking it. That’s our American decline.
The main characters are dead-end white males robbing to provide for a future generation. They make the connection between them and injuns a little too explicit, with one of the two referring to himself as a Comanche.
When the Joad family couldn't make it work on the farm anymore, they did something and stuck together. But families are now falling apart, and values are terrible. Yes, times have changed, and white folks are feeling the burden.
But it's not just about money and stuff. It's about the loss of cultural capital, morality, values. Solving the problem with an oil well is just a Hollywood fantasy. It's like the money belt at the end of MIDNIGHT RUN. Unnecessary. The valuable lesson the Deniro character learned was that there is something more meaningful than money.
It's like Kurosawa's HIGH AND LOW where the businessman realizes his humanity is more important than money. I can understand a movie dealing with the changing economic landscape and its impact on folks. But HELL OR HIGH WATER, like so many of its kind, focuses too much on money as both hell and heaven. So, blame the BANKS. But then, thank todd for the Oil(and companies that drill for it cuz oil from the ground is future-for-my-kids). These small-town or rural movies are really depressing nowadays.
Friedkin's KILLER JOE was about some of the vilest most repulsive characters.
AUGUST OSAGE COUNTY was filled with human gnats, but it was really good, with one of Streep's best performance and Julia Roberts going toe to toe. (Same author of KILLER JOE).
C.O.G, about a proggy dropout in rural America was a real downer, though really good at the end.
MUD was grubby.
JOE(with Nicolas Cage) comes closest to diagnosing what is wrong. Men have forgotten how to be men.
NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN is surely the most entertaining.
WINTER'S BONE was unforgiving. Oddly enough, the most normal small town folks are in TWILIGHT, a movie about vamps.
And the kid in INTO THE WORLD met some interesting people. But overall, it seems like something has been lost. Maybe it was the counter-culture that burned the bridges between the past and present with too much fun, music, partying, drugs, and etc. Maybe the 'tiller' was lost. Like Ken Kesey said. His book SOMETIMES A GREAT NOTION are about people with the tiller. But Kesey felt he lost it. https://books.google.com/books?id=kfgaBwAAQBAJ&pg=PT125&lpg=PT125&dq=ken+kesey+tiller+acid&source=bl&ots=lAQMJYQ19s&sig=LRqrWotzhX5iaD__ygH_kQ7RK6c&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj0s_48cjRAhVDzoMKHVq-A28Q6AEIMTAE#v=onepage&q=ken%20kesey%20tiller%20acid&f=falseReplies: @Expletive Deleted, @guest, @27 year old
https://twitter.com/jmanfreddi/status/821160244160135168Replies: @epebble, @Massimo Heitor
That was part of the white bread / vanilla ice cream trend in the early 20th Century that I wrote about — it’s harder to put poisons in white food.
Whenever the progs talk about Native Americans/Indians, it's always in the past tense. They consider Indians to be, for all intents and purposes, extinct. That's why you rarely ever hear them talking about investing in reservations, where contemporary Indians live in poverty often much worse than what you would find in the ghetto.
For progs, Indians are like Neanderthals: white Americans might have some traces of their DNA, like Elizabeth Warren, but as a distinct race they're no more.
Rather, what happened to the Indians just means that white Americans have no right to complain about going extinct too. Black and brown peoples are entitled to come to America and outbreed whites.
So ultimately, that's why progs can be indignant about what happened to Indians, but never propose or do anything that would benefit their communities. For them, Indians are gone, so white people deserve the same fate. It would be like if barbarians conquered and massacred all of Greece: too bad, they deserved it for killing off then Trojans.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon, @Jefferson, @BenKenobi, @Mr. Anon, @Expletive Deleted
So exactly what do the Turks owe the peoples of Anatolia? Trojans, Luwians, Achaeans, Hittites, Romans, Galatians and all?
Or is it OK if you do it on horseback with bows&arrows, authentically, like Indians?
(I’m ignoring the Kurds and Armenians for geographical reasons. Not just because I don’t want to touch that little tar-baby .. ).
So to answer your question - Anatolian history is not something SJWs ever think about. Was the Ottoman Empire imperialistic? Did it oppress and marginalize religious minorities? SJWs honestly don't ever think about that. You may as well ask a 9 year old girl about the races of Warhammer 40,000.
If the Feminazis in the women’s march are truly committed to vibrant DIEversity, they should all march in hijabs & burqas to show their solidarity to submit to Muslim men and The Prophet Mohammad.
I dunno, the Ivans are pretty damn’ good at codebreaking. It was basically a couple of Ruskis who hacked the Mayan script, and led to the military and political secrets of Yucatan being disgorged.
I suspect they have people who do Navajo and other Athabascan languages as a hobby. Because Alaska. And because their winters are long and dark.
Arsenic in the beer (as well as just about everything else) http://www.breweryhistory.com/journal/archive/132/Death_in_a_beerglass.pdf Antimony in kids’ sweets and flour. Although the very lethality of such compounds would, I suppose, preclude any influence on Flynn’s postulated Effect.
Radium-painted dials.
White phosphate in”lucifers”.
Gas leaks, and slight carbon monoxide poisoning (on a recurrent nightly basis, from banking the range up, or not trimming the oil lamps assiduously).
Even the roundworm and tapeworm burden many of them carried. Makes you dumb and lethargic.
I suppose that’s why you just don’t see many Victorians around anymore.
“Oh, I totally agree. I included Pocahontas to be facetious. She’s a total fraud, but there are a lot of white people who have traces of Indian ancestry. (My family is white and we thought we had some Indian ancestry because my grandfather was so dark. DNA tests said we don’t.)”
So what’s the ancestral explanation for your grandfather’s darkness? Is he just a very swarthy Caucasoid? And how dark are we talking here? Like Vito Spatafore from The Sopranos complexion?
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/sopranos/images/1/13/Vito1.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20110531205022
Who knows?
The main characters are dead-end white males robbing to provide for a future generation. They make the connection between them and injuns a little too explicit, with one of the two referring to himself as a Comanche.Replies: @Anon, @jill
What is most corrupt about the movie is its materialism. It has no vision of betterment except getting lucky and striking oil under one’s feet. So, there is no agency, no morality. Just waiting for something lucky to happen.
When the Joad family couldn’t make it work on the farm anymore, they did something and stuck together. But families are now falling apart, and values are terrible.
Yes, times have changed, and white folks are feeling the burden.
But it’s not just about money and stuff. It’s about the loss of cultural capital, morality, values.
Solving the problem with an oil well is just a Hollywood fantasy. It’s like the money belt at the end of MIDNIGHT RUN. Unnecessary. The valuable lesson the Deniro character learned was that there is something more meaningful than money.
It’s like Kurosawa’s HIGH AND LOW where the businessman realizes his humanity is more important than money.
I can understand a movie dealing with the changing economic landscape and its impact on folks. But HELL OR HIGH WATER, like so many of its kind, focuses too much on money as both hell and heaven. So, blame the BANKS. But then, thank todd for the Oil(and companies that drill for it cuz oil from the ground is future-for-my-kids).
These small-town or rural movies are really depressing nowadays.
Friedkin’s KILLER JOE was about some of the vilest most repulsive characters.
AUGUST OSAGE COUNTY was filled with human gnats, but it was really good, with one of Streep’s best performance and Julia Roberts going toe to toe. (Same author of KILLER JOE).
C.O.G, about a proggy dropout in rural America was a real downer, though really good at the end.
MUD was grubby.
JOE(with Nicolas Cage) comes closest to diagnosing what is wrong. Men have forgotten how to be men.
NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN is surely the most entertaining.
WINTER’S BONE was unforgiving.
Oddly enough, the most normal small town folks are in TWILIGHT, a movie about vamps.
And the kid in INTO THE WORLD met some interesting people.
But overall, it seems like something has been lost.
Maybe it was the counter-culture that burned the bridges between the past and present with too much fun, music, partying, drugs, and etc. Maybe the ’tiller’ was lost. Like Ken Kesey said. His book SOMETIMES A GREAT NOTION are about people with the tiller. But Kesey felt he lost it.
https://books.google.com/books?id=kfgaBwAAQBAJ&pg=PT125&lpg=PT125&dq=ken+kesey+tiller+acid&source=bl&ots=lAQMJYQ19s&sig=LRqrWotzhX5iaD__ygH_kQ7RK6c&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj0s_48cjRAhVDzoMKHVq-A28Q6AEIMTAE#v=onepage&q=ken%20kesey%20tiller%20acid&f=false
The funny thing is, it could have been Hillary delivering at least some of that desired message but she ignored the good advice of the actual real life Bill Clinton. After all, she had Robbie Mook, lol.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3935800/Days-losing-election-Hillary-Bill-Clinton-sceaming-match-blame-flagging-campaign-ex-president-angry-threw-phone-roof-Arkansas-penthouse.html
In terms of bad judgment, we really dodged a bullet with that one.Replies: @Expletive Deleted
OK so I’d probably get shot for trespass, but it’d be worth the risk just to get ahold of Bill’s SIM card. Or does he use burner ‘phones, like any good gangsta?
Do these liberal arts clowns we keep on electing not have even the slightest interest in security?
I don't think so, judging by members of Hillary's entourage such as John "password" Podesta. Maybe a little less time Spirit Cooking with Marina, a little more time focusing on how to win an election or even paying attention to security briefings would have gone a long way to success. Work ethic is boring but few win without it.
It baffles me that people reference Emma Lazarus (and Gandhi) as some icons of post-racial, zero pride in one group over another racial harmony.Replies: @mf, @Big Bill
er. israel is 20% arab muslim and 60% of the israeli jewish population is arab or of arab descent.
Or is it OK if you do it on horseback with bows&arrows, authentically, like Indians?
(I'm ignoring the Kurds and Armenians for geographical reasons. Not just because I don't want to touch that little tar-baby .. ).Replies: @Sid
SJWs have an extremely poor sense of history. I realized after awhile that they think US history is the slavery of blacks and genocide of Indians. They believe colonialism and imperialism came about around the time the European powers started taking off in the 15th century, having never before existed.
So to answer your question – Anatolian history is not something SJWs ever think about. Was the Ottoman Empire imperialistic? Did it oppress and marginalize religious minorities? SJWs honestly don’t ever think about that. You may as well ask a 9 year old girl about the races of Warhammer 40,000.
But more immigration means White Land get paved over by more and more newcomers or mass invaders. And then Indian Narrative will get buried deeper below more and more layers of invasion. Indian Narrative will get more and more lost and neglected. Roots of American history is that white folks took land from red folks. White folks owe something to red folks. White folks owe nothing to ANYONE else(except blacks brought as slaves). To be sure, there are regional variances. Whites owe something to Hawaiians but ONLY IN Hawaii. And same goes for Eskimos, but ONLY IN Alaska. Immigrant Argument is like saying "Since John took from Bob, John owes Jerry." No, John owes Bob something. To Jerry, nothing. Bring back Plymouth Rock narrative. Hell with Ellis Island... and Tinsel Town and Silly Valley.Replies: @europeasant, @Sid, @Karl, @anon
> And same goes for Eskimos, but ONLY IN Alaska
well, there are ZERO treaty obligations up there.
The Eskimos still largely pray with russian-language prayerbooks. Send them to Putin.
It would leave a LOT more alcohol for Elmendorf.
I've noticed as much too. Back in the 70s, Indian causes were popular among fashionable liberals (Marlon Brando refusing his Oscar, movies like Billy Jack, the Alcatraz occupation, etc.). Now they really don't give a s**t. As you say, it's as if they were extinct.Replies: @Sid, @ChrisZ
I think a lot of it is that Indians live far into the American interior. If you’re a good SWPL, you look out to the rest of the world. You definitely don’t want to look inward, into flyover country. That’s where Indians live in their reservations. If America First is icky, then First Americans living in red states like Arizona, Alaska and North Dakota are cutting a little too close. Even more important is that Indians just don’t live in major liberal cities, so they’re invisible to progs even when their eyes are focused on the US.
Black people are loud, extroverted and love to complain. Indians tend to be quiet, stoic and consider it unseemly to draw attention to their problems. Black people also actively contribute to US pop culture. Indians rarely do so.
To be fair, SJWs did make a big stink about the pipeline going through Indian lands in North Dakota. Thing is, that was a hopelessly obscure issue. The problem with Hillary was that she had no ideological core. For example, if a prog complained about the banks, that risked drawing attention to Hillary’s taking money from them. After awhile, the North Dakota pipeline seemed like the one thing a true believing progressive could complain about without implicating Hillary.
Fake Native Americans contribute to U.S pop culture, like this 1971 commercial with the crying Italian.
https://youtu.be/8Suu84khNGY
Indians were also easily integrated into American society and Indian symbolism was popular from early days. For example, the 45th Infantry Division, Oklahoma National Guard, that Montgomery enlisted in had as its symbol the Thunderbird and contained members from numerous Indian tribes but not one black, blacks being segregated in separate units.
Boyington and Bauer served as Marine Corps fighter pilots when no black, mixed race or otherwise, would have been even considered, and Evans commanded a destroyer at a time when blacks would have only served as cooks or the like.
Being part Indian was something to be proud of at a time when being part black would have been a secret shame. Being called "Chief" or "Indian Joe" was not at all derogatory. Willie of Bill Mauldin's "Willie and Joe" cartoon GI duo was a Choctaw Indian and soldiers loved and identified with his character and saw nothing odd in an Indian and a white being best friends.
Part of that attitude may be that American Indians were seen as fighters, unlike blacks, who were seen as mere menials. And while the native Mexican empires of the Aztecs and Incas had quickly fallen to a handful of Spaniards, American Indians refused to give in and fought century after century until the bitter end, giving as good as they got right up till it was all over. Not for nothing was William Sherman's middle name Tecumseh.Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Old fogey
I don't even think the prog protestors in that case care about Indians or their issues - they seem to view it entirely through the lens of Climate Change and the idea that the hydrocarbon industry is always evil. I agree with the reasons you mentioned for modern SJW's seeming indifference to Indian affairs.
well, there are ZERO treaty obligations up there.
The Eskimos still largely pray with russian-language prayerbooks. Send them to Putin.
It would leave a LOT more alcohol for Elmendorf.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon
The Aleutian Islanders said the Russian Orthodox priests were the only whites to treat them decently. The British sailors were the worst.
iSteve speaketh as if he's spoken to them. Not many have, since there there never were many. Did iSteve get stationed at Adak?
Until they changed the rules, Adak & Amchitka were the only place in PacFleet where female sailors could get a sea duty rotation
Kind of a must, if the girl wanted to make rank.
Radium-painted dials.
White phosphate in"lucifers".
Gas leaks, and slight carbon monoxide poisoning (on a recurrent nightly basis, from banking the range up, or not trimming the oil lamps assiduously).
Even the roundworm and tapeworm burden many of them carried. Makes you dumb and lethargic.I suppose that's why you just don't see many Victorians around anymore.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Expletive Deleted
Worms were a big problem in the American South until the Rockefeller Foundation went after them about a century ago.
1/. People defecating in 'the open', and not removing/burying on the spot the said faeces.
2/. People walking barefoot over the same patch of ground upon which the faeces lay, the faeces likely being 'washed away' by the weather or scavengers.
Says a lot about typical habits pertaining in the South early last century.Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Old fogey, @Autochthon
http://www.latina.com/lifestyle/our-issues/most-mediocre-white-people-2016
A 'non-mediocre latina' list?Replies: @Autochthon
Any list of accomplished or significant mestizoids is vanishingly short.
Black people are loud, extroverted and love to complain. Indians tend to be quiet, stoic and consider it unseemly to draw attention to their problems. Black people also actively contribute to US pop culture. Indians rarely do so.
To be fair, SJWs did make a big stink about the pipeline going through Indian lands in North Dakota. Thing is, that was a hopelessly obscure issue. The problem with Hillary was that she had no ideological core. For example, if a prog complained about the banks, that risked drawing attention to Hillary's taking money from them. After awhile, the North Dakota pipeline seemed like the one thing a true believing progressive could complain about without implicating Hillary.Replies: @Jefferson, @duncsbaby, @Whoever, @Mr. Anon
“Black people also actively contribute to US pop culture. Indians rarely do so.”
Fake Native Americans contribute to U.S pop culture, like this 1971 commercial with the crying Italian.
Since "leadership" is a white male thing (i.e., the evil Trump) and it is a structural attribute of sexist society and the oppression of the patriarchy, I'd guess there will be no "leadership," just the communal cooperation of women wearing knitted pussy hats.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/thousands-are-knitting-pussy-hats-for-the-womens-march-on-washington_us_586bb22ee4b0d9a5945c636aReplies: @Jefferson, @Karl
> women wearing knitted pussy hats
Around here, a knitted kippah means you accept that the Knesset is more important than some rebbe.
By the way, I notice that there are NINE different sorts of “yarmulke” which have been assigned US National Stock Numbers in Haystack
Also helpful in the Modern Orthodox Mating Game:
https://www.datingcoachsos.com/kippah-single-orthodox-jewish-dating/
I don’t recall any pictures of Jared Kushner wearing one of ANY variety. Of course, he still has a full head of hair. That’s a mating signal, right there.
Radium-painted dials.
White phosphate in"lucifers".
Gas leaks, and slight carbon monoxide poisoning (on a recurrent nightly basis, from banking the range up, or not trimming the oil lamps assiduously).
Even the roundworm and tapeworm burden many of them carried. Makes you dumb and lethargic.I suppose that's why you just don't see many Victorians around anymore.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Expletive Deleted
Meant “white phosphorus”. The stuff that so excites modern nation-builders and other bomb-throwing anarchists. White phosphates come in sacks and go on the potato fields, therefore a Jolly Good Thing, in general.
When the Joad family couldn't make it work on the farm anymore, they did something and stuck together. But families are now falling apart, and values are terrible. Yes, times have changed, and white folks are feeling the burden.
But it's not just about money and stuff. It's about the loss of cultural capital, morality, values. Solving the problem with an oil well is just a Hollywood fantasy. It's like the money belt at the end of MIDNIGHT RUN. Unnecessary. The valuable lesson the Deniro character learned was that there is something more meaningful than money.
It's like Kurosawa's HIGH AND LOW where the businessman realizes his humanity is more important than money. I can understand a movie dealing with the changing economic landscape and its impact on folks. But HELL OR HIGH WATER, like so many of its kind, focuses too much on money as both hell and heaven. So, blame the BANKS. But then, thank todd for the Oil(and companies that drill for it cuz oil from the ground is future-for-my-kids). These small-town or rural movies are really depressing nowadays.
Friedkin's KILLER JOE was about some of the vilest most repulsive characters.
AUGUST OSAGE COUNTY was filled with human gnats, but it was really good, with one of Streep's best performance and Julia Roberts going toe to toe. (Same author of KILLER JOE).
C.O.G, about a proggy dropout in rural America was a real downer, though really good at the end.
MUD was grubby.
JOE(with Nicolas Cage) comes closest to diagnosing what is wrong. Men have forgotten how to be men.
NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN is surely the most entertaining.
WINTER'S BONE was unforgiving. Oddly enough, the most normal small town folks are in TWILIGHT, a movie about vamps.
And the kid in INTO THE WORLD met some interesting people. But overall, it seems like something has been lost. Maybe it was the counter-culture that burned the bridges between the past and present with too much fun, music, partying, drugs, and etc. Maybe the 'tiller' was lost. Like Ken Kesey said. His book SOMETIMES A GREAT NOTION are about people with the tiller. But Kesey felt he lost it. https://books.google.com/books?id=kfgaBwAAQBAJ&pg=PT125&lpg=PT125&dq=ken+kesey+tiller+acid&source=bl&ots=lAQMJYQ19s&sig=LRqrWotzhX5iaD__ygH_kQ7RK6c&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj0s_48cjRAhVDzoMKHVq-A28Q6AEIMTAE#v=onepage&q=ken%20kesey%20tiller%20acid&f=falseReplies: @Expletive Deleted, @guest, @27 year old
“Manchester-by-the-Sea” was kind of OK. Apart from everybody being white and drunk all the time. Like Injuns, but unaccountably prosperous. How’d they do that?
Anyway, they're Irish.
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/sopranos/images/1/13/Vito1.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20110531205022Replies: @Anonymous, @Frau Katze
Maria Grazia Cucinotta from Il Postino and The Sopranos is a better example. In Il Postino she had kinky hair and almost looked mulatto. She was very dark. Other pictures where she had her natural straight hair she looks white with a darker complexion. I love this look, non-black/non-mulatto women with dark complexion/features. I’m as white as Tony Jr., and also as Irish as the character who played him.
This crap, like everything else the Left has done, is going to get bogged down with intersectionality horseshit, where the loudest group with the most Victim Pokemon Points gets to have the spotlight every time.
So people are going to see transgender illegal aliens screaming about how the pigs won’t let them use the ladies bathroom to avoid being deported. Cannot wait for America to see that and realise what a bullet we dodged with Hillary.
When the Joad family couldn't make it work on the farm anymore, they did something and stuck together. But families are now falling apart, and values are terrible. Yes, times have changed, and white folks are feeling the burden.
But it's not just about money and stuff. It's about the loss of cultural capital, morality, values. Solving the problem with an oil well is just a Hollywood fantasy. It's like the money belt at the end of MIDNIGHT RUN. Unnecessary. The valuable lesson the Deniro character learned was that there is something more meaningful than money.
It's like Kurosawa's HIGH AND LOW where the businessman realizes his humanity is more important than money. I can understand a movie dealing with the changing economic landscape and its impact on folks. But HELL OR HIGH WATER, like so many of its kind, focuses too much on money as both hell and heaven. So, blame the BANKS. But then, thank todd for the Oil(and companies that drill for it cuz oil from the ground is future-for-my-kids). These small-town or rural movies are really depressing nowadays.
Friedkin's KILLER JOE was about some of the vilest most repulsive characters.
AUGUST OSAGE COUNTY was filled with human gnats, but it was really good, with one of Streep's best performance and Julia Roberts going toe to toe. (Same author of KILLER JOE).
C.O.G, about a proggy dropout in rural America was a real downer, though really good at the end.
MUD was grubby.
JOE(with Nicolas Cage) comes closest to diagnosing what is wrong. Men have forgotten how to be men.
NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN is surely the most entertaining.
WINTER'S BONE was unforgiving. Oddly enough, the most normal small town folks are in TWILIGHT, a movie about vamps.
And the kid in INTO THE WORLD met some interesting people. But overall, it seems like something has been lost. Maybe it was the counter-culture that burned the bridges between the past and present with too much fun, music, partying, drugs, and etc. Maybe the 'tiller' was lost. Like Ken Kesey said. His book SOMETIMES A GREAT NOTION are about people with the tiller. But Kesey felt he lost it. https://books.google.com/books?id=kfgaBwAAQBAJ&pg=PT125&lpg=PT125&dq=ken+kesey+tiller+acid&source=bl&ots=lAQMJYQ19s&sig=LRqrWotzhX5iaD__ygH_kQ7RK6c&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj0s_48cjRAhVDzoMKHVq-A28Q6AEIMTAE#v=onepage&q=ken%20kesey%20tiller%20acid&f=falseReplies: @Expletive Deleted, @guest, @27 year old
It’s gotta be hard to make a heist movie that’s not at least partly materialistic. Focusing too much on money isn’t a problem for me, given the genre. I don’t know where you get “no agency, no morality” from. I was on the cops’ side, despite not liking banks in general. The robber side wins, but there’s Bridges at the end, haunting the survivor. There’s no moral victory for him; he just got lucky.
It wasn’t a depressing movie, though the condition of most of the characters was pitiable. The small town folk weren’t exactly normal or admirable, but they did intervene in the action more than once at personal risk and for no other apparent reason than they thought it was the right thing to do.
I did briefly think about oil companies, and why we’re supposed to scorn banks yet think oil money is a-okay. But I wouldn’t read much into the movie’s specific politico-economic message. There’s enough there to make us sympathetic to the robbers’ cause and to move the plot. But ultimately it’s an action, buddy cops-and-robbers movie.
So, while the rockers were only into the Now and Present, cinephiles were absorbing influences of past cinema that had traditional values and situations. (To be sure, Rock did have connection to past via reverence for older folkies, bluesmen, country artists, and etc. But Rock got progressively anti-past, as with punk, new wave 80s music, and rap.) The wiser older man in THE LAST PICTURE SHOWhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWSvo0eMK7E"It wasn’t a depressing movie, though the condition of most of the characters was pitiable."It was too well-paced and engaging to be depressing. A truly demented but one-of-a-kind movie about eccentric outsider-characters was COLD IN JULY. It's like some hipster Peckinpah film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkyuV69YZcM
Since the days of Thatcher and Reagan – (who remember were just as reviled in their day by the lefties as Trump is today) – and Gorbachev, the European left has quietly abandoned the only bit of Marxism that actually matters – redistribution – and have more or less concentrated on PC cultural Marxism.
I was wondering about that too.
Maybe the commenter was attempting to distinguish between the “liberal left” and the “Left” with the former being the ones who have turned away from communism. But either way it wasn’t clear.
Are you kidding? If the US imports a billion people, and I sell half of them my cheap crap from China, I’ll be rich, rich, RICH!
That really is a big part of it. The debit side of the ledger–crowding, pollution, lowered social trust–is diffuse or borne by others. Nobody believes they’ll end up like the Savopoulos family.
Households, business and government have all leveraged themselves far into the future, which means the economy either expands, or a lot of rich become poor. The fact that the debit side will eventually overwhelm even the short-term gains is ignored. Everybody assumes they’ll be smart enough to cash in their chips and bug out when things get hairy. The middle-class schleps who support their own displacement can’t or won’t perceive this and their heads are filled with universalist goo.
Wait a minute. Was there ever a story about a white male who tortured a black family to death? Well, there's always Dylann Roof.
Hookworms are ‘caught’ by one simple route.
1/. People defecating in ‘the open’, and not removing/burying on the spot the said faeces.
2/. People walking barefoot over the same patch of ground upon which the faeces lay, the faeces likely being ‘washed away’ by the weather or scavengers.
Says a lot about typical habits pertaining in the South early last century.
Out-houses were not uncommon in Texas at that time, and I assume they would have been even more common in the really deep South.
NASA unironically tweeted about the death of Gene Cernan, “the last man to walk on the Moon.”
Indeed.
I have a hunch it’s an “Early European Farmer” look (as the archaeogenetics boffins have it). Palaeo-Sardinian, Cardial Impressed Ware, all of that. Very common among Insular Celts, right up the Irish Sea, and proper “France profonde” types, as well as Iberia and Italy as one might expect.
Here's a great article from the Columbus Dispatch:
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2017/01/15/trumps-ohio-win-truly-was-historic.html#In other words, a lot of white people who had never voted for a Republican before, especially poorer ones in rural and small town areas, voted for Trump.Replies: @Kyle McKenna, @27 year old, @Buffalo Joe
>The left’s decision to declare open war on Middle America was just a little bit too soon.
I don’t think so, I think they just failed to anticipate that Middle (White) America would find an ally like Trump.
If Trump hadn’t come along and the GOP was putting up Yeb! there would have been no problem with open war against us.
Crazy thought here. What’s to prevent someone from getting their hands on some Fauxchohantos DNA and testing it? The Left doses people all the time and gets away with it.
The 1910s-1920s progressives did understand this.
This is why they pushed for women’s suffrage, labor laws, public education, reproductive rights and limited immigration.
Mosquitoes too. I wish we would do up here what they did in The Keys to reduce them.
And don’t get me started about the blackflies and deerflies.
I bet a lot of it is that Canada had such a rigorous immigration system until recently that there really weren't that many NAMs they could feel guilty about. Hence, First Peoples had to be their guilt trip.
With Trudeau taking in Syrian refugees, we'll have to see what happens. Maybe in 20 years, Canadians will have forgotten about First Peoples and their problems?Replies: @Anon
I think it’s because there is just more of them. Google says there are 5%+ in Canada and only 2% in the US.
Wait a minute. Femmies tell us that the nuclear or traditional family is dead, and we should be creative with family formations. So, it's cool to be a single-mother. It's cool for guys to hump different ho's and not play role of father. It's cool for homos to pretend they had a kid together. It's cool for white folks to buy/adopt black babies in Africa and separate black kids from black parents and cultures.
BUT... we must do everything to keep those immigrant families together. All of a sudden, it's Traditional Family Values?
Gimme a break.Replies: @SFG, @International Jew, @backup, @anonymous, @stillCARealist
Speaking of traditional values, here’s the update from Chicago this MLK weekend. Note that the latest shooting took place in West Austin, just a few blocks from I-Steve favorite Oak Park. Note also that the shooting was just a moment’s walk from the KIPP Create College Prep, another I-Steve favorite.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/01/17/10-killed-29-wounded-in-mlk-day-weekend-shootings/
1/. People defecating in 'the open', and not removing/burying on the spot the said faeces.
2/. People walking barefoot over the same patch of ground upon which the faeces lay, the faeces likely being 'washed away' by the weather or scavengers.
Says a lot about typical habits pertaining in the South early last century.Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Old fogey, @Autochthon
No. Walking barefoot in pig stys was the major route for infestation. Not stupid rednecks stomping in their own shit on the way to the lynching.
OT –
From a LA Times feature article on Stephen Miller:
Those days were a dress rehearsal for his time at Duke, where he backed lacrosse players in a racially charged rape case that was eventually dropped,
Could there be a more dishonest description of that hoax?
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-speechwriter-santamonica-20170117-story.html
Indeed, his line should be, "I grew up among a lot of white people who praised diversity but soon realized that few of them lived anywhere near the diversity they proclaimed to love. From there, I began to notice other inconsistencies between white leftist ideology and white leftist revealed preferences . . . "
OT
Obama votes with his feet — he seems to want to be nowhere near too many people who look like Trayvon Martin (the son he never had):
Moving van spotted outside Obama family’s new home
WUSA reporter Bruce Leshan tweeted a picture that he said shows a moving van outside the Obamas’ new home in the residential neighborhood of Kalorama.
The Kalorama area of DC is > 80% white, and < 5% black.
Obama votes with his feet — he seems to want to be nowhere near too many people who look like Trayvon Martin (the son he never had):"
PG County is not that far from The White House, yet Barack Hussein Obama has zero interest in living among his Negro tribe there.
When the Joad family couldn't make it work on the farm anymore, they did something and stuck together. But families are now falling apart, and values are terrible. Yes, times have changed, and white folks are feeling the burden.
But it's not just about money and stuff. It's about the loss of cultural capital, morality, values. Solving the problem with an oil well is just a Hollywood fantasy. It's like the money belt at the end of MIDNIGHT RUN. Unnecessary. The valuable lesson the Deniro character learned was that there is something more meaningful than money.
It's like Kurosawa's HIGH AND LOW where the businessman realizes his humanity is more important than money. I can understand a movie dealing with the changing economic landscape and its impact on folks. But HELL OR HIGH WATER, like so many of its kind, focuses too much on money as both hell and heaven. So, blame the BANKS. But then, thank todd for the Oil(and companies that drill for it cuz oil from the ground is future-for-my-kids). These small-town or rural movies are really depressing nowadays.
Friedkin's KILLER JOE was about some of the vilest most repulsive characters.
AUGUST OSAGE COUNTY was filled with human gnats, but it was really good, with one of Streep's best performance and Julia Roberts going toe to toe. (Same author of KILLER JOE).
C.O.G, about a proggy dropout in rural America was a real downer, though really good at the end.
MUD was grubby.
JOE(with Nicolas Cage) comes closest to diagnosing what is wrong. Men have forgotten how to be men.
NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN is surely the most entertaining.
WINTER'S BONE was unforgiving. Oddly enough, the most normal small town folks are in TWILIGHT, a movie about vamps.
And the kid in INTO THE WORLD met some interesting people. But overall, it seems like something has been lost. Maybe it was the counter-culture that burned the bridges between the past and present with too much fun, music, partying, drugs, and etc. Maybe the 'tiller' was lost. Like Ken Kesey said. His book SOMETIMES A GREAT NOTION are about people with the tiller. But Kesey felt he lost it. https://books.google.com/books?id=kfgaBwAAQBAJ&pg=PT125&lpg=PT125&dq=ken+kesey+tiller+acid&source=bl&ots=lAQMJYQ19s&sig=LRqrWotzhX5iaD__ygH_kQ7RK6c&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjj0s_48cjRAhVDzoMKHVq-A28Q6AEIMTAE#v=onepage&q=ken%20kesey%20tiller%20acid&f=falseReplies: @Expletive Deleted, @guest, @27 year old
Isn’t that part of the point, its very hard to care about all that high minded crap when you’re materially poor?
It depends on the circumstances and on the individual--and on what you mean by materially poor.
A woman told me that because her daughter had been asked to two proms but they could only afford to buy her one prom dress that now she knew how it felt to be "impoverished".
Then there's this man:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=601266873393880&id=190357161151522
Except it's not 'high-minded' crap. It is essential and down-to-earth crap. Trying to save the world is high-minded. Coming up with some utopian dream is high-minded. Trying to end malaria in Africa is high-minded. Trying to end world hunger is high-minded. Trying to make everyone love one another is high-minded.
What we are talking about is essential core values that are available to the simplest folks. The Joad family stuck together in GRAPES OF WRATH with core values, not high-minded values. They were uneducated folks, but they had an essential core sense of right and wrong. And same with the old black woman in RAISIN IN THE SUN. She aint no high-minded woman. But she knows her family is hers and she has to take care of them.
We don't expect poor uneducated folks to be high-minded, sophisticated, utopian, selfless, compassionate, universal, and etc. But even poor folks can be about family, core values of decency, and respect. And those values were dominant all throughout US history when people were a lot 'poorer'. And we see it in immigrant stories as well. Consider FORTUNATE PILGRIM by Puzo. Many came with nothing, but they still believed in family and stuff. What keeps the couple and family together in EMIGRANTS and NEW LAND? It aint high-minded stuff. It is a conviction of being part of a culture, and man and wife belonging to one another. This sense of togetherness, loyalty, and duty has been lost. There was also the culture of shame. So, if an individual made a total ass of oneself, it reflected on the family. It's like how THE GODFATHER begins. The father let his daughter go out with friends and be 'American' but to never dishonor the family. But today, we have privileged parents raising kids like Emma Sulk and Lena Dunham. We have fathers who see nothing wrong with their young girls aping Miley Cyrus.
And in a way, the core elemental values are the most important element of culture. But we are so into success, greatness, and celebrity that we don't value core culture anymore. Elitists just look to greats like Shakespeare and Beethoven and other giants. Now, such artists were indeed great, and we should now about them, and I'm all for more education and high culture. But that isn't core culture. After all, the black mama in RAISIN IN THE SUN prolly never read Shakespeare or heard classical music, but she has a powerful sense of core values of family and responsibility. She created life and took care of life. I mean one's feelings for one's parents shouldn't be based on how many books they read or records they heard. The main thing should be if they are GOOD People. Now, parents should introduce the kids to arts and stuff, but more important is the sense of duty, family, and lineage.
At least high culture has genuine cultural value. Much of culture today is whatever fetches the price, much of it hyped like the trash of Jeff Koons or Hirst. And then, there is celebrity culture that encourages young ones to identify mainly with vain trashy morons who worship themselves... like lady gaga.
It's like in the Bible. For a long stretch, Jews are hardly great. They are just struggling to survive, but they have meaning because they have a sense of who they are, a sense of obligations, and a sense of connection to truth. Most nations/cultures haven't created great figures like Kant, Shakespeare, Descartes, and Beethoven, but they have value because they are about communities, family, and ethnic memory.
While economics cannot be considered apart from culture, they are not the same thing. Those with core culture can survive an economic drought whereas those who lose that culture, that 'tiller' as Kesey calls it, are truly lost. And not only when times are bad but even when times are good.
While that bald-headed fool Kevin Williamson is a prick, he is half-right that some of the blame must go to the Deplorables. Too many wallow in garbage culture. And to Williamson's credit, he also attacked the Liberal Elites for feeding garbage to the hoi polloi.
Men have to be like young Vito Corleone. Even when he loses his job, he has simple dignity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeDV0rxBq9E
Trump…a modern day Bismarck?
“The scale of Bismarck’s triumph cannot be exaggerated. He alone had brought about a complete transformation of the European international order. He had told those who would listen what he intended to do, how he intended to do it, and he did it. He achieved this incredible feat without commanding an army, and without the ability to give an order to the humblest common soldier, without control of a large party, without public support, indeed, in the face of almost universal hostility, without a majority in parliament, without control of his cabinet, and without a loyal following in the bureaucracy.”
The resemblance is uncanny
ok, but israel is still a very tribal, exclusive membership, style nation. And I support them, I’m pro-Israel, but I don’t think it’s reasonable to cite Israel or Emma Lazarus as some open border, mass immigration model.
Well-raised progeny has always been, and will continue to be, the surest bet.
It is impossible to consume that which has not yet been produced. Therefore, all systems of "retirement" depend on some sort of illusion that something produced (and not consumed) in 1990 can be set aside and consumed in 2040.
Unless it's well-preserved canned goods, it just ain't so.
So a man can "save" his excess product in a form a different man, much younger, will accept in trade for his much later product. Honest monetary systems allow this. Political systems create such things by fiat, and by coercion (taxation.)
But when you stop and think about it, it's all just a weird illusion unless what the retiree made when he was making things was the factory by which much later he is "paid off" in the product he needs in order to live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQoqsKoJVDwReplies: @guest, @jill
The restaurant scene was hilarious!
I agree. Look, you can ask what the purpose of a heart or lung or liver is, but you wouldn’t ask the same question about a cancerous tumor. Why not? Because a cancerous tumor doesn’t have any purpose or goal, it’s just a bunch of individual cells each behaving selfishly even if it will result in the prompt death of the host and therefore the prompt death of all the cancerous cells.’
So too with Leftism — there is no end goal or end game. It’s just a bunch of individuals each trying to maximize his own social status, self-satisfaction, and material gains without any regard to the ultimate consequences for society as a whole.
The main characters are dead-end white males robbing to provide for a future generation. They make the connection between them and injuns a little too explicit, with one of the two referring to himself as a Comanche.Replies: @Anon, @jill
A reflection of America’s decline
https://twitter.com/jmanfreddi/status/821160244160135168
Bad hombres. Or is it bad mujeres. Let’s just go with bad gente.
Ponzi scheme. Unsustainable. How do we grow the population enough to pay for pensions when the population is at 50 billion?Replies: @Kyle McKenna, @Perplexed
Tax the robots.
Do you have a citation for the proposition that Social Security paid out more than it collected at its inception? My understanding is that it was a boon to the general Treasury in the early years, when all workers were taxed to support a relative few seniors – people just didn’t live that long at the time, so the outlays weren’t that great. In the meantime, Congress could use the present revenue collected to fund all sorts of spending without “raising taxes,” while most people were (and may still be) under the impression that their SS contributions are segregated somewhere and held in trust or something.
The issue is now that modern medicine has increased life expectancy significantly just in time for the giant Baby Boomer generation to collect for 30+ years, while child-per-woman fell to below replacement.
In any event, Social Security is a bad deal for anyone who pays in – the opportunity cost foregone is an enormous destruction of wealth over one’s working lifetime. It only survives because its popularity rests upon the same principle illustrated by the fact that if I lend you $20, I prefer that you repay me $10 rather than nothing – it’s not popular in the sense that I would look forward to lending you another $20.
We're told by some that there was once in place the functional equivalent of a 'lockbox' and by others that projected benefits were never more than a claim upon (other people's) future income. Which is accurate?
I'd like to see a chart depicting the system's financial health over the decades. But I wonder how manipulable the terms are.
The “liberal left” likes Castro and Che simply because of their anti-American stance. They are in favor of pretty much anybody who stands up to the U.S.A. It seems strange to me that more of them don’t just move somewhere else.
Not so. They (or their leaders) aren't in favour of Russia or Serbia.Replies: @Old fogey
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/uashat-maliotenam-innu-suicides-coroner-report-1.3936156
5 natives commit suicide, Whitey to blame. Coroner's report uses word "apartheid." Government programs to the rescue!Replies: @Dr. X, @Sid, @Seth Largo
Inuit are not the First Nations of Canada. The Dorset preceded them but were killed off by various factors, including the arrival of the Inuit, with whom they did not interbreed.
1/. People defecating in 'the open', and not removing/burying on the spot the said faeces.
2/. People walking barefoot over the same patch of ground upon which the faeces lay, the faeces likely being 'washed away' by the weather or scavengers.
Says a lot about typical habits pertaining in the South early last century.Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Old fogey, @Autochthon
I lived in Texarkana during WWII when my father was stationed there and had a friend who went around barefoot. My mother took her in, bathed, dressed her, and fitted her out with nice shoes and socks. The next day she came around barefoot again.
Out-houses were not uncommon in Texas at that time, and I assume they would have been even more common in the really deep South.
I've noticed as much too. Back in the 70s, Indian causes were popular among fashionable liberals (Marlon Brando refusing his Oscar, movies like Billy Jack, the Alcatraz occupation, etc.). Now they really don't give a s**t. As you say, it's as if they were extinct.Replies: @Sid, @ChrisZ
This is a perceptive observation, and shows how faddish and whimsical the hot passions of the Left can be.
It should also be a lesson to the Left’s darling victim groups of the present day: they will only be tolerated for as long as they can advance the careers of the Left’s elites; when their utility has expired, they’ll be jettisoned in favor of a more docile and attractive victim group.
Deworming the rural South may be the best thing the Rockefellers ever did. It’s not commonly known how bad it really was. And you can be sure it had some Flynn effect.
Is there anything in America that is run like a well oiled machine that does not have a disproportionate number of White males?
Usually when I go to my local DMV all I see are women & People Of Color behind the counters and it is extremely disorganized. Once in awhile they will have a token White male employee, but most of the time not even that.
Black people are loud, extroverted and love to complain. Indians tend to be quiet, stoic and consider it unseemly to draw attention to their problems. Black people also actively contribute to US pop culture. Indians rarely do so.
To be fair, SJWs did make a big stink about the pipeline going through Indian lands in North Dakota. Thing is, that was a hopelessly obscure issue. The problem with Hillary was that she had no ideological core. For example, if a prog complained about the banks, that risked drawing attention to Hillary's taking money from them. After awhile, the North Dakota pipeline seemed like the one thing a true believing progressive could complain about without implicating Hillary.Replies: @Jefferson, @duncsbaby, @Whoever, @Mr. Anon
Just would like to point out one thing. The Dakota Access Pipeline is NOT going through Indian lands. It’s being built outside the Standing Rock reservation. In fact it’s almost completed before the Obama admin through the underlings at the Army Corps of Engineers pulled the permission slip at the last minute. It’s being built right next to an existing pipeline that was built 30 yrs ago. It does not go through Indian land. They surveyed that land in the 80’s for historical artifacts & they weren’t there then when they built the first pipeline. Chief Archambault started the protests because he wasn’t getting a payoff from the DAPL builders. He owns a gas station on the res. There are numerous oil wells on the res. Unfortunately his little protest to get a payoff has been hijacked by the anti-oil SJW eco-warriors from out of state. If the Standing Rock Sioux Indian tribe has legitimacy to stop this shovel-ready project they pretty much have legitimacy to stop any building at all in the state. Which they don’t because they lost the Indian wars of the 19th century.
Wait a minute. Femmies tell us that the nuclear or traditional family is dead, and we should be creative with family formations. So, it's cool to be a single-mother. It's cool for guys to hump different ho's and not play role of father. It's cool for homos to pretend they had a kid together. It's cool for white folks to buy/adopt black babies in Africa and separate black kids from black parents and cultures.
BUT... we must do everything to keep those immigrant families together. All of a sudden, it's Traditional Family Values?
Gimme a break.Replies: @SFG, @International Jew, @backup, @anonymous, @stillCARealist
I’m pretty sure they’re referring to all forms of families. They’d be cool with the extra wives, the lovers, the sketchy cousins, the in-laws and out-laws.
what’s really interesting is the “aspiring Americans” part. How nice that these people want to be Americans! because before it was all about multiculturalism and bi, tri, quad lingual-ism. Do we get to make them into English speaking Americans now?
To take up the role of a literary critic, there is a definite pattern to all this. Leftist cant is a genre all its own, with characteristic tropes and structural elements. To one who has learned how to deconstruct it, it becomes even more tedious than it had been before; but this painful step is nonetheless obligatory, for it is vitally important to avoid getting lost in the details of Leftist speechifying. Never react to the words of a Leftist, for their declarations of this sort amount to nothing but purely instrumental sloganeering, the content of which is, in the last analysis, irrelevant. Their actions alone matter, and in this as in every other case their acts are ones of piracy and destruction directed at their host society.
Suppose there was a film of the leaders of this women's march making their impassioned plea (I don't know whether there is in fact or not). Now suppose we were to watch this film, not tonight, but 30 or 40 years from now, long after events of 2017 have passed under the bridge. In that case we would be looking not at contemporary troubles to be dealt with, but at "history," the cold dead echoes the past preserved on a magnetic disk. Then it would be easy to see how completely beside the point were any of the messages scrawled on protest signs or shouted into microphones. The entire significance of the event lies in the action, in the agitation itself, in the anger expressed on the faces, whether somnolently smug or awakened into a crazed and baleful fervence. The protest signs will soon be cast aside and trampled underfoot with all the ceremony of yesterday's ticker tape, which in light of their merely instrumental vale is what they most in fact resemble.
I fear that Rightists have often in the past expended too much time and energy fighting a fruitless battle of words with Leftist troublemakers. At best this may have helped us to clarify our own positions and cement our own identity, but it advanced the front not one yard. Words and concepts matter only to us, not to them; and the truth of any matter has neither enlightened nor deterred them. Argumentation will become even less useful as time goes on, for, as I mentioned above, the slogans are becoming increasingly unnecessary pretexts. Leftism is approximating more and more to the untrammeled mob violence which is its true form. Under these conditions, the Right must steel itself to become what it truly is---literally the defender of civilization. The time for education and debate is over, for that presumes good will on the part of one's opponent. The stark choice is now before us to either preserve our patrimony or let it sink into the fallow wastes engendered by Leftist savagery. To carry the torch, or heed the plaque.Replies: @ChrisZ, @Ivy, @Je Suis Charlie Martel, @Kylie
Excellent point, Dasein–to which I’d add the following. The Left resorts to using a hallowed text only when they want to throw it back in the faces of the Right.
The Left by nature does not value or even recognize the authority of texts — whether the Bible, the Constitution, or the classics of literature and philosophy. All of these it puts down as tainted by the self-interest of the authors, who were blinkered and biased by their times.
It’s the Right that values and even reveres texts; they are our way of conversing with, and learning from, the serious thinkers of the past. For the Right, the very persistence of those texts marks them as high points of human achievement, which in itself lends them authority and a right of deferential consideration when we try to think about matters in our own time.
The Left views this deference to textual authority as kind of weakness of the Right: a chink in the armor through which weapons can be thrust, or a double-edged instrument that can be turned against its user. So when the Left invokes the authority of a text, you can be sure it is not being invoked as a universal authority over mankind, but only over that fraction of mankind that recognizes authority to begin with, i.e. the Right.
So for example, when someone on our side makes a reference to the gospels, what he usually means is that this text should be considered a guide to human action generally. If someone on the Left cites the same text, he’s usually using it to embarrass opponents on the Right, expose our alleged hypocrisy, or bully us into accepting new “authorized” marching orders. “You guys follow the gospel? Well, here’s what the gospels REALLY say about [whatever topic]. Since you bow to their authority, it’s time you get with the program!”
I find that the Left’s use of texts almost always has this character of a backhanded slap in the face to the Right. Annoying as it is, it can occasionally have a comic effect, as when Barbra Streisand tried to invoke Shakespeare’s authority as an anti-war advocate — but did so by using some phony lines she had picked up on the internet.
https://mises.org/blog/few-gun-laws-new-hampshire-safer-canadaReplies: @BenKenobi, @Hapalong Cassidy
Very interesting, when you consider that the Inuit and other north dwellers are the Natives who are most closely related to East Asians. I’d wager that your average Inuit is a closer genetic cousin to the Koreans than to the Sioux. Yet it looks like Inuit have all the worst traits of other Native Americans, yet even more magnified.
1/. People defecating in 'the open', and not removing/burying on the spot the said faeces.
2/. People walking barefoot over the same patch of ground upon which the faeces lay, the faeces likely being 'washed away' by the weather or scavengers.
Says a lot about typical habits pertaining in the South early last century.Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Old fogey, @Autochthon
Classic examples of maladies due to the habits of those afflicted include the prevalence of HIV in Africa because of its inhabitants’ habits of promiscuity and artherosclerosis and cancer because of the habits of overeating and smoking.
Agricultural areas commonly have unburied faeces from both domestic and wild animals, and poor people in warm, rural, areas in the early twentieth century often were compelled to go barefoot. Do these phenomena qualify as habits? I suppose the latter might.
Many diseases all but unheard of in the rural South are common in densely populated areas like Manhattan and London because they rely upon human vectors in close contact. Does dense population qualify as a habit?
Am I genuinely missing your point, or is it a fallacious attempt at a droll insult wasted on people with brains in their heads?
Poor people in northern Europe had to do this out of necessity, lest their feet froze off.Replies: @Jack D
And Lesbians! Don’t forget the Lesbians!
8 shot at Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial Park in Miami on MLK DayReplies: @Jim Don Bob
Probably a KKK rally gone bad. You gotta stay away from those trigger-happy Aryans.
One of the things I find interesting about 70s counter-culture cinema. They often have a wise elder. THE GODFATHER had Don Corleone. Even the nutjob in HAROLD AND MAUDE was an old woman. Maybe cinephiles, unlike rock people, were more rooted in the past because their heroes were John Ford, Alfred Hitchcock, Howard Hawks, Orson Welles, Kurosawa, Renoir, etc.
So, while the rockers were only into the Now and Present, cinephiles were absorbing influences of past cinema that had traditional values and situations. (To be sure, Rock did have connection to past via reverence for older folkies, bluesmen, country artists, and etc. But Rock got progressively anti-past, as with punk, new wave 80s music, and rap.)
The wiser older man in THE LAST PICTURE SHOW
“It wasn’t a depressing movie, though the condition of most of the characters was pitiable.”
It was too well-paced and engaging to be depressing.
A truly demented but one-of-a-kind movie about eccentric outsider-characters was COLD IN JULY. It’s like some hipster Peckinpah film.
well, there are ZERO treaty obligations up there.
The Eskimos still largely pray with russian-language prayerbooks. Send them to Putin.
It would leave a LOT more alcohol for Elmendorf.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anon
Just give them the right to kill a few walruses every year. That’ll make em happy.
Cat watchers should clean up that day.
To take up the role of a literary critic, there is a definite pattern to all this. Leftist cant is a genre all its own, with characteristic tropes and structural elements. To one who has learned how to deconstruct it, it becomes even more tedious than it had been before; but this painful step is nonetheless obligatory, for it is vitally important to avoid getting lost in the details of Leftist speechifying. Never react to the words of a Leftist, for their declarations of this sort amount to nothing but purely instrumental sloganeering, the content of which is, in the last analysis, irrelevant. Their actions alone matter, and in this as in every other case their acts are ones of piracy and destruction directed at their host society.
Suppose there was a film of the leaders of this women's march making their impassioned plea (I don't know whether there is in fact or not). Now suppose we were to watch this film, not tonight, but 30 or 40 years from now, long after events of 2017 have passed under the bridge. In that case we would be looking not at contemporary troubles to be dealt with, but at "history," the cold dead echoes the past preserved on a magnetic disk. Then it would be easy to see how completely beside the point were any of the messages scrawled on protest signs or shouted into microphones. The entire significance of the event lies in the action, in the agitation itself, in the anger expressed on the faces, whether somnolently smug or awakened into a crazed and baleful fervence. The protest signs will soon be cast aside and trampled underfoot with all the ceremony of yesterday's ticker tape, which in light of their merely instrumental vale is what they most in fact resemble.
I fear that Rightists have often in the past expended too much time and energy fighting a fruitless battle of words with Leftist troublemakers. At best this may have helped us to clarify our own positions and cement our own identity, but it advanced the front not one yard. Words and concepts matter only to us, not to them; and the truth of any matter has neither enlightened nor deterred them. Argumentation will become even less useful as time goes on, for, as I mentioned above, the slogans are becoming increasingly unnecessary pretexts. Leftism is approximating more and more to the untrammeled mob violence which is its true form. Under these conditions, the Right must steel itself to become what it truly is---literally the defender of civilization. The time for education and debate is over, for that presumes good will on the part of one's opponent. The stark choice is now before us to either preserve our patrimony or let it sink into the fallow wastes engendered by Leftist savagery. To carry the torch, or heed the plaque.Replies: @ChrisZ, @Ivy, @Je Suis Charlie Martel, @Kylie
“There Charon stands, who rules the dreary coast –
A sordid god: down from his hoary chin
A length of beard descends, uncomb’d, unclean;
His eyes, like hollow furnaces on fire;
A girdle, foul with grease, binds his obscene attire.”
Lefties want the ferry franchise
(From Virgil’s Aeneid, as translated by Dryden)
I think it unlikely that leftists will agree (much less realize) that what they’ve been fighting for is jeopardized by immigration–cognitive dissonance is rampant on the left.
In their considered view, whether wages, equality, environment, living standards, et al., will all be addressed by the correct and proper policies and legislation, e.g. minimum wage or living wage laws, mandates imposed from Washington, more spending and more spending.
There’s a reason they’re leftists–their imagination is a flight of fancy and an escape from reality.
Immigration does just that. It makes it harder for whites to transfer wealth to their children and perpetuate white privileged through low taxation and less governmentReplies: @Forbes, @a Newsreader
But sure to warn us about the impending low taxation and less government so injustice and disaster can be avoided.
In their page 1 list of “revolutionary [women] leaders who paved the way for us to march” they forgot to mention Golda Meir and Margaret Thatcher.
I’m sure it’s an innocent oversight.
If I enter any country, be it Iceland, France, Turkey, Thailand, Argentina, or Egypt, on a 90 day tourist visa, I don't believe I have any right to be there past 90 days. If I enter it illegally, with no visa, I don't believe I have any right to be there, period. I would encourage whoever came up with this dreamy drivel about rights to row a boat to Japan without any papers and insist on their right to live there (supported by the state, no doubt) and get in a self-righteous huff if Japan begged to differ.
It reminds me of the headline on a recent anarchist magazine cover: "No Borders! No walls between people. No walls in our heads." I recall twenty years ago when anarchists were rioting in Seattle over Globalization. I guess these days they decided to buy into the Soros philosophy.
Sad.Replies: @Anonymous, @Forbes
So open minded their brains fell out…
Black people are loud, extroverted and love to complain. Indians tend to be quiet, stoic and consider it unseemly to draw attention to their problems. Black people also actively contribute to US pop culture. Indians rarely do so.
To be fair, SJWs did make a big stink about the pipeline going through Indian lands in North Dakota. Thing is, that was a hopelessly obscure issue. The problem with Hillary was that she had no ideological core. For example, if a prog complained about the banks, that risked drawing attention to Hillary's taking money from them. After awhile, the North Dakota pipeline seemed like the one thing a true believing progressive could complain about without implicating Hillary.Replies: @Jefferson, @duncsbaby, @Whoever, @Mr. Anon
In addition to the points you make is the fact that Indians tend to be patriotic and serve in the armed forces out of proportion to their numbers. Indians also tend to intermarry with other Americans and fade into the background. Thus you have men like Medal of Honor winners Pappy Boyington and Joe Bauer, Jack Montgomery and Ernest Evans, for example, all officers and all mixed white and Indian.
Indians were also easily integrated into American society and Indian symbolism was popular from early days. For example, the 45th Infantry Division, Oklahoma National Guard, that Montgomery enlisted in had as its symbol the Thunderbird and contained members from numerous Indian tribes but not one black, blacks being segregated in separate units.
Boyington and Bauer served as Marine Corps fighter pilots when no black, mixed race or otherwise, would have been even considered, and Evans commanded a destroyer at a time when blacks would have only served as cooks or the like.
Being part Indian was something to be proud of at a time when being part black would have been a secret shame. Being called “Chief” or “Indian Joe” was not at all derogatory. Willie of Bill Mauldin’s “Willie and Joe” cartoon GI duo was a Choctaw Indian and soldiers loved and identified with his character and saw nothing odd in an Indian and a white being best friends.
Part of that attitude may be that American Indians were seen as fighters, unlike blacks, who were seen as mere menials. And while the native Mexican empires of the Aztecs and Incas had quickly fallen to a handful of Spaniards, American Indians refused to give in and fought century after century until the bitter end, giving as good as they got right up till it was all over. Not for nothing was William Sherman’s middle name Tecumseh.
There are some old photographs from the early 19th century Chicago in the historical society museum that show Indian women walking the streets of the city in well-cut Victorian dresses and hats. They were not shy in adopting the customs and fashions of the newcomers in their midst. Since most whites found Indian features and coloring not especially unattractive, I would imagine that there are many Americans who bear Indian genes and are completely unaware of it. It certainly would have been the smarter Indians who left the reservations early on to join the wider society. They would have blended easily into the European gene pool.Replies: @Whoever
Um, the only thing leftists have ever been fighting for is to have their own bloody hands on the reins of power. Immigration advances, not retards, that process.
Hiding behind any “hypocrisy” in politics will be a very consistent standard.
The main character can afford to be drunk, since he’s a loner who lives in a dungeon and doesn’t care about his work. Back when he had a family to look after we only see him drunk twice: once after a fishing trip (he claims to have had less than two beers per hour, as I recall) and once at a house party. I don’t think we’re to assume he was drunk all the time. His brother seemed responsible, and the only character we know to have been a full-blown alcoholic is the sister-in-law.
Anyway, they’re Irish.
“Phosphates” were once to San Franciscans what “tonics” are to Bostonians– soda pop. Some claim that’s where the word “pop” came from, but I don’t see how. Unless everyone was missing their front teeth.
No one ever grasps that without Obama there would be no Trump.
The pendulum went waaaay too far left, until people had all but forgotten it’s not a corkscrew.
Same with relation to civilization.
If blacks reject White Civilization and revert to natural way to be more ‘real’ and ‘authentic’, they are praised. So, blacks are good to return to tribalism and organismic nature.
But if whites reject ‘higher principles’ of civilization and return to tribal and organismic nature of ‘our survival’, then they are eeeeeeeevil.
So, blacks must reconnect with their ‘savage’ nature but whites must repress their ‘barbarian’ nature.
Purely from a political viewpoint, it is somewhat understandable. White Civilization favored whites over blacks, not least because it was built by whites, and people usually build systems to favor their own kind. It’s like Israel was built to favor Jews, not Palestinians.
So, civilization is seen as tool of oppression in the hands of whites but as iron heel of repression on the necks of blacks. So, blacks have a right to reject civilization and go ‘natural’ because it fills them with warrior rage and anger. But whites must not go ‘natural’ in emotions because they have no moral justification for warrior souls.
But then, even as blacks are encouraged to reject white civilization, they are also encouraged to make demands from it. After all, without the fruits of white civilization, what would blacks have?
Whites are not allowed to reconnect with their ‘barbarian’ nature, and they must stick to civilization… but only as producers than leaders. Whites must maintain civilization and uphold its ‘highest ideals’ of universalism. They must never think tribally or barbarically(except for the white women in the realm of sexuality of ‘slut pride’). Whites must run and maintain civilization but not own it.
So, whites are in a bind. They cannot reconnect with their ‘nature’ and must stick to civilization, but they must not own civilization as their own proud creation. They must keep civilization going as atonement and produce lots of stuff to be ‘shared’ with non-whites.
Say’s Law remains as inviolable as the Law of Gravity.
It is impossible to consume that which has not yet been produced. Therefore, all systems of “retirement” depend on some sort of illusion that something produced (and not consumed) in 1990 can be set aside and consumed in 2040.
Unless it’s well-preserved canned goods, it just ain’t so.
So a man can “save” his excess product in a form a different man, much younger, will accept in trade for his much later product. Honest monetary systems allow this. Political systems create such things by fiat, and by coercion (taxation.)
But when you stop and think about it, it’s all just a weird illusion unless what the retiree made when he was making things was the factory by which much later he is “paid off” in the product he needs in order to live.
Human beings aren't illegal, the acts they commit are.
"Immigration reform must establish a roadmap to citizenship, and provide equal opportunities and workplace protections for all."
Objection, you honor! This self-contradictory sentence sets up an impossible task, even if the individual spewing it is too clueless and ignorant to see it. I request their case be dismissed, with prejudice.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
The “insipid commie” was a spoiled rich Sephardess of stock exchange royalty who didn’t want her distant Ashkenazi cousins coming here. She wanted someone cheap to make the bed.
She also had an unrequited crush on her first cousin, which sounds weird to us, but not to a community where avuncular marriage was once common, and still legal in their Newport playground.
“When will leftists realize that everything they’ve been fighting for is jeopardized by mass third world immigration: good wages for low income workers, economic and social equality, environmental protections, rising living standards for African Americans etc. People like Cesar Chavez, Barbara Jordan, and Samuel Gompers all understood this. Will today’s leftists wake up before it’s too late, or have we already passed the point of no return?”
Let me explain this to you. You are making the mistaken assumption that liberalism has something to do with nationalism. It doesen’t. Liberalism is *universalist*. Liberals do care about the poor, yes, but they care about the poor period, and not only the poor in America.
Therefore, restricting immigration to raise wages for the poor in America is not a solution that suits liberal ideology, as it benefits the poor in one country while making the poor elsewhere even poorer by keeping them in lands where wages are even lower than those of the poor in your country. Again, liberalism is not nationalistic but universalistic.
So, if faced with the option of benefitting some poor people(American poor people) by disenfranchizing and making a larger number of people even poorer, liberals prefer to favor mass immigration to increase the standard of living of a much larger number of poor people, as liberalism always favors the underdog. The poor in places like Nicaragua and Namibia are a *lot* poorer than the poor in America, so they are the underdogs that must be protected and not the American poor.
You conservatives think that you are being clever with these criticisms, when in reality liberals are not falling in contradiction at all by supporting mass immigration. You guys think you are having a “aha, got you!” moment, when in reality you are not pointing any logical contradiction at all in liberal ideology. You conservatives are just not smart.
So much ownage in one post.
Great points, Mr. Diaz.
Conservatives just don't get it.Replies: @AKAHorace
Europe is perhaps an excellent example of welfare policies implemented, even at the best of times; it serves beautifully to make their companies noncompetitive. That Finland is one of the most extensive social welfare countries as well as the "Sick Man of Europe" is not a chance coincidence.
First Liberals rarely come out and say that their policies are bad for the poor of their own country. Instead they sucker them with high sounding slogans about hope and anti racism.
Second, socialists used to be against immigration. They recognized that it lowered wages and with high birthrates in the source country it amounted to trying to mop up from an open tap.
Modern liberalism with its emphasis on issues that benefit the middle class and wealthy (e.g. are there enough female billionaires/engineers) is an example of traditional leftism being bought out by the rich. Social Democracy needs a stable Demos to work.
She also had an unrequited crush on her first cousin, which sounds weird to us, but not to a community where avuncular marriage was once common, and still legal in their Newport playground.Replies: @Alec Leamas
En fuego today, Reg.
Haha.
So much ownage in one post.
Great points, Mr. Diaz.
Conservatives just don’t get it.
OT: (Some) women may be happy at the news: Virgin Birth reported (no, it does not seem to be Second Coming of Jesus Christ):
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/17/health/zebra-shark-reproduction/
It baffles me that people reference Emma Lazarus (and Gandhi) as some icons of post-racial, zero pride in one group over another racial harmony.Replies: @mf, @Big Bill
Keep in mind that the Jewish Civil War was in full bloom back then. Sophisticated, educated German Jews (Maskilim) were at war with the ignorant, smelly, head-bobbin’ shtetl Jews. The Maskilim were trying to ram Western culture, languages, education and values down their shtetl throats, and the shtetl boys weren’t having none of it.
The last thing the high-minded upper crust Jews (think Reform or Reconstructionist) wanted was for their ghetto numb-nutz cousins (think Cousin Pookie and Ray-Ray from Belz) to queer their deal in the USA.
Emma Lazarus was preaching as much to her fellow wealthy Jews in America as she was to the goyim.
You should read up on the Jewish Civil War (Haskala). It is still going on and explains a lot of Israeli and American conflict.
I don't agree. The Haskala was White Nationalism for Jews. The beginnings of Haskala were when secular books were released in Hebrew. I claim that the racket was doomed for the "Palestinians" in the mid 1750's, when a math textbook was published in Hebrew.
I mean the environmentalist issue is universal. If first world countries continue to import large number of third worlders the planet is going to be cooked from all the greenhouse gases . Also, I’ve seen a lot of analyses that say that the cost of resettling a Syrian refugee in say Norway is like 20x more expensive than putting him in a refugee camp in say Jordan. I see what you’re saying with American poor people being very rich by international standards, but I think even you’ve got to admit that leftists haven’t really thought this one through. There is an enormous amount of blindness on this issue.
But more immigration means White Land get paved over by more and more newcomers or mass invaders. And then Indian Narrative will get buried deeper below more and more layers of invasion. Indian Narrative will get more and more lost and neglected. Roots of American history is that white folks took land from red folks. White folks owe something to red folks. White folks owe nothing to ANYONE else(except blacks brought as slaves). To be sure, there are regional variances. Whites owe something to Hawaiians but ONLY IN Hawaii. And same goes for Eskimos, but ONLY IN Alaska. Immigrant Argument is like saying "Since John took from Bob, John owes Jerry." No, John owes Bob something. To Jerry, nothing. Bring back Plymouth Rock narrative. Hell with Ellis Island... and Tinsel Town and Silly Valley.Replies: @europeasant, @Sid, @Karl, @anon
“Since John took from Bob, John owes Jerry.”
I think your equation is wrong; it should be restated as:
Since George took from Geronimo, Juan and Maria will take it from George. This will make everything right because Juan and Maria have a little bit of Geronimo in them.
As for Asian-Indians and the rest, what right do they have to demand entry into US?
Which is why I hear liberals raging every day to provide social security to the poor dispossessed citizens in Venezuela. And of course, if their policies were implemented in total, it would be just about as productive as Venezuelan policies have been.
Europe is perhaps an excellent example of welfare policies implemented, even at the best of times; it serves beautifully to make their companies noncompetitive. That Finland is one of the most extensive social welfare countries as well as the “Sick Man of Europe” is not a chance coincidence.
Props for being honest and up front about your moral commitments. Of course, if the Democratic Party expressly made this kind of humanitarian cosmopolitanism its primary message (and it has sometimes come close to doing so), it would never win an election ever again. Most people still think the US government has a special responsibility to Americans. One need not reject a moral universalist framework to reject the idea that our nation-state is tasked with saving the world.
Unrelated but interesting.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jan/16/natural-selection-making-education-genes-rarer-says-icelandic-study
I think your equation is wrong; it should be restated as:
Since George took from Geronimo, Juan and Maria will take it from George. This will make everything right because Juan and Maria have a little bit of Geronimo in them.Replies: @Anon
Juanito may have a bit of justification in SW territories that were once Mexico, but in no other part of US.
As for Asian-Indians and the rest, what right do they have to demand entry into US?
From a LA Times feature article on Stephen Miller:
Those days were a dress rehearsal for his time at Duke, where he backed lacrosse players in a racially charged rape case that was eventually dropped,
Could there be a more dishonest description of that hoax?
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-speechwriter-santamonica-20170117-story.htmlReplies: @Seth Largo
Santa Monica and the “westside” are as white as Iowa. The reporter is not from LA. I like Stephen Miller, but the notion that he grew up in a multi-cultural wasteland is absurd. He grew up in whitopia, albeit a very liberal one.
Indeed, his line should be, “I grew up among a lot of white people who praised diversity but soon realized that few of them lived anywhere near the diversity they proclaimed to love. From there, I began to notice other inconsistencies between white leftist ideology and white leftist revealed preferences . . . ”
“Isn’t that part of the point, its very hard to care about all that high minded crap when you’re materially poor?”
It depends on the circumstances and on the individual–and on what you mean by materially poor.
A woman told me that because her daughter had been asked to two proms but they could only afford to buy her one prom dress that now she knew how it felt to be “impoverished”.
Then there’s this man:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=601266873393880&id=190357161151522
“Isn’t that part of the point, its very hard to care about all that high minded crap when you’re materially poor?”
Except it’s not ‘high-minded’ crap. It is essential and down-to-earth crap. Trying to save the world is high-minded. Coming up with some utopian dream is high-minded. Trying to end malaria in Africa is high-minded. Trying to end world hunger is high-minded. Trying to make everyone love one another is high-minded.
What we are talking about is essential core values that are available to the simplest folks. The Joad family stuck together in GRAPES OF WRATH with core values, not high-minded values. They were uneducated folks, but they had an essential core sense of right and wrong. And same with the old black woman in RAISIN IN THE SUN. She aint no high-minded woman. But she knows her family is hers and she has to take care of them.
We don’t expect poor uneducated folks to be high-minded, sophisticated, utopian, selfless, compassionate, universal, and etc. But even poor folks can be about family, core values of decency, and respect. And those values were dominant all throughout US history when people were a lot ‘poorer’. And we see it in immigrant stories as well. Consider FORTUNATE PILGRIM by Puzo. Many came with nothing, but they still believed in family and stuff. What keeps the couple and family together in EMIGRANTS and NEW LAND? It aint high-minded stuff. It is a conviction of being part of a culture, and man and wife belonging to one another. This sense of togetherness, loyalty, and duty has been lost. There was also the culture of shame. So, if an individual made a total ass of oneself, it reflected on the family. It’s like how THE GODFATHER begins. The father let his daughter go out with friends and be ‘American’ but to never dishonor the family. But today, we have privileged parents raising kids like Emma Sulk and Lena Dunham. We have fathers who see nothing wrong with their young girls aping Miley Cyrus.
And in a way, the core elemental values are the most important element of culture. But we are so into success, greatness, and celebrity that we don’t value core culture anymore. Elitists just look to greats like Shakespeare and Beethoven and other giants. Now, such artists were indeed great, and we should now about them, and I’m all for more education and high culture. But that isn’t core culture. After all, the black mama in RAISIN IN THE SUN prolly never read Shakespeare or heard classical music, but she has a powerful sense of core values of family and responsibility. She created life and took care of life. I mean one’s feelings for one’s parents shouldn’t be based on how many books they read or records they heard. The main thing should be if they are GOOD People. Now, parents should introduce the kids to arts and stuff, but more important is the sense of duty, family, and lineage.
At least high culture has genuine cultural value. Much of culture today is whatever fetches the price, much of it hyped like the trash of Jeff Koons or Hirst. And then, there is celebrity culture that encourages young ones to identify mainly with vain trashy morons who worship themselves… like lady gaga.
It’s like in the Bible. For a long stretch, Jews are hardly great. They are just struggling to survive, but they have meaning because they have a sense of who they are, a sense of obligations, and a sense of connection to truth. Most nations/cultures haven’t created great figures like Kant, Shakespeare, Descartes, and Beethoven, but they have value because they are about communities, family, and ethnic memory.
While economics cannot be considered apart from culture, they are not the same thing. Those with core culture can survive an economic drought whereas those who lose that culture, that ’tiller’ as Kesey calls it, are truly lost. And not only when times are bad but even when times are good.
While that bald-headed fool Kevin Williamson is a prick, he is half-right that some of the blame must go to the Deplorables. Too many wallow in garbage culture. And to Williamson’s credit, he also attacked the Liberal Elites for feeding garbage to the hoi polloi.
Men have to be like young Vito Corleone. Even when he loses his job, he has simple dignity.
I can’t find the reference, but I think it was a famous science fiction writer or
Futurist who said ” I always thought I would live long enough to see a man land on the Moon, but I never dreamed I would live to see the last man land on the Moon.”
The people who contantly disparage the U.S.A. and other Europeans’ nations –both the native variety who promise to leave, like that Dunham creature, and the invading brown people – don’t ever actually leave (the former) and swarm in rather than avoid us (the latter) for the same reasons ill-mannered teens who constantly bemoan their parents’ tyranny and oppression don’t actually leave their parents’ homes: they may not like dad’s rules, but they sure do dig his house and his food, and they couldn’t possibly provide those things for themselves, and they know it.
Indians were also easily integrated into American society and Indian symbolism was popular from early days. For example, the 45th Infantry Division, Oklahoma National Guard, that Montgomery enlisted in had as its symbol the Thunderbird and contained members from numerous Indian tribes but not one black, blacks being segregated in separate units.
Boyington and Bauer served as Marine Corps fighter pilots when no black, mixed race or otherwise, would have been even considered, and Evans commanded a destroyer at a time when blacks would have only served as cooks or the like.
Being part Indian was something to be proud of at a time when being part black would have been a secret shame. Being called "Chief" or "Indian Joe" was not at all derogatory. Willie of Bill Mauldin's "Willie and Joe" cartoon GI duo was a Choctaw Indian and soldiers loved and identified with his character and saw nothing odd in an Indian and a white being best friends.
Part of that attitude may be that American Indians were seen as fighters, unlike blacks, who were seen as mere menials. And while the native Mexican empires of the Aztecs and Incas had quickly fallen to a handful of Spaniards, American Indians refused to give in and fought century after century until the bitter end, giving as good as they got right up till it was all over. Not for nothing was William Sherman's middle name Tecumseh.Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Old fogey
Tom Threepersons was a Native American Border Patrol Agent who took illegal entries pretty personal.
A lot wrong with this.
First Liberals rarely come out and say that their policies are bad for the poor of their own country. Instead they sucker them with high sounding slogans about hope and anti racism.
Second, socialists used to be against immigration. They recognized that it lowered wages and with high birthrates in the source country it amounted to trying to mop up from an open tap.
Modern liberalism with its emphasis on issues that benefit the middle class and wealthy (e.g. are there enough female billionaires/engineers) is an example of traditional leftism being bought out by the rich. Social Democracy needs a stable Demos to work.
https://twitter.com/jmanfreddi/status/821160244160135168Replies: @epebble, @Massimo Heitor
Back to the past! http://all-that-is-interesting.com/tenement-new-york-photos-facts#1
True. CAPS have calculated the difference at twelvefold:
Nick Diaz is due some kind of Fields Medal for his mathematical acuity.
If Islam gets a permanent hold on a nation because they were calmly invited in, the descendents of the enablers will curse them.
Muslims are playing for keeps.
The Long National Opera just started:
http://people.com/politics/former-apprentice-contestant-summer-zervos-suing-president-elect-trump-for-defamation/
https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=dYwlzFeeBv7mf3k4B/kysA==&system=prod
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/sopranos/images/1/13/Vito1.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20110531205022Replies: @Anonymous, @Frau Katze
There is a similar thing in my ex-husband’s family. His daughter inherited it (it causes a small birthmark, called a Mongolian blue spot. It disappears with age). No one knows where it came from. Known family lore traces back to a great-grandfather (of my daughter). Further tracing back more recently (using old records) finds all of his ancestors back to 1800 were born in England.
Who knows?
The last thing the high-minded upper crust Jews (think Reform or Reconstructionist) wanted was for their ghetto numb-nutz cousins (think Cousin Pookie and Ray-Ray from Belz) to queer their deal in the USA.
Emma Lazarus was preaching as much to her fellow wealthy Jews in America as she was to the goyim.
You should read up on the Jewish Civil War (Haskala). It is still going on and explains a lot of Israeli and American conflict.Replies: @guest, @Karl
I revisited a book recently on that subject (The Ordeal of Civility), occasioned by another conversation on iSteve. I came across our old pal Karl Marx, and I wondered why it is he’s allowed to have a reputation for anti-semitism. I’m constantly fascinated by the standards for identifying past thought-criminals, given him that pretty much everyone qualifies. Usually it’s a who/whom thing, but there are “intersectionalities.”
In Marx’s case it’s a “speaking out of school” thing. They did’t think it was his place to badmouth his own people in mixed company. They’re trying to get on in the world, gah!
No-fault divorce, and laws encouraging divorce (generous bennies for single mothers, child support laws, welfare state, settlement laws), are an article of faith for leftists (to say nothing of their undermining of the institution with their homo/pervert "marriage" agenda). Leftism has been breaking up families for more than half a century. Now they want to wrap themselves in the flag of family unity?
Open borders are an article of faith for leftists. Open borders and tolerance of illegal immigration encourage breadwinners to leave their families and cross borders in search of higher wages.
Open borders drive down wages for the working class, making it harder for them to start families.
If criminal infiltrators were all that worried about family unity, they wouldn't leave their families behind to jump our borders.
"Moral duty." WTF are leftists to speak of moral duty?
P.S., criminal infiltrators aren't illegal - they're criminals.Replies: @Frau Katze
And some Muslim migrants have a bonus: more than one wife.
So much ownage in one post.
Great points, Mr. Diaz.
Conservatives just don't get it.Replies: @AKAHorace
I do get it. You are Steve Sailer, who is tragically suffering from split personality syndrome.
https://twitter.com/jmanfreddi/status/821160244160135168Replies: @epebble, @Massimo Heitor
LA coliving, communal housing: This seems like great, creative innovation, not the decline of America.
Here's a great article from the Columbus Dispatch:
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2017/01/15/trumps-ohio-win-truly-was-historic.html#In other words, a lot of white people who had never voted for a Republican before, especially poorer ones in rural and small town areas, voted for Trump.Replies: @Kyle McKenna, @27 year old, @Buffalo Joe
Lot, Obama said he was going to shut down the coal industry in this country, so by extension, Hillary paid the price for his remarks. And that seems fair.
“Maria Grazia Cucinotta from Il Postino and The Sopranos is a better example. In Il Postino she had kinky hair and almost looked mulatto. She was very dark. Other pictures where she had her natural straight hair she looks white with a darker complexion. I love this look, non-black/non-mulatto women with dark complexion/features. I’m as white as Tony Jr., and also as Irish as the character who played him.”
I go crazy for White chicks with curly hair like Elizabeth Berkley from Saved By The Bell, Minnie Driver, Julia Louis Dreyfus in Seinfeld, Sofia Milos, Kira Soltanovich, and Sheryl Crow for example.
The issue is now that modern medicine has increased life expectancy significantly just in time for the giant Baby Boomer generation to collect for 30+ years, while child-per-woman fell to below replacement.
In any event, Social Security is a bad deal for anyone who pays in - the opportunity cost foregone is an enormous destruction of wealth over one's working lifetime. It only survives because its popularity rests upon the same principle illustrated by the fact that if I lend you $20, I prefer that you repay me $10 rather than nothing - it's not popular in the sense that I would look forward to lending you another $20.Replies: @Kyle McKenna
Yeah, I meant that people who hadn’t paid a penny into the system began collecting immediately: the original retirees. Definitely agree that over time, demographics haven’t helped solvency, but isn’t it also true that politicians have raided the system for other purposes?
We’re told by some that there was once in place the functional equivalent of a ‘lockbox’ and by others that projected benefits were never more than a claim upon (other people’s) future income. Which is accurate?
I’d like to see a chart depicting the system’s financial health over the decades. But I wonder how manipulable the terms are.
Indeed, but he spent several hundred words to make a simple point. I think we know that ‘liberals’ think they can fix world hunger (or even materially improve it) by importing tens of millions of third-world immigrants to the USA.
But their feel-good prescription remains steadfastly ignorant of the numbers involved. Africa alone is projected to exceed four billion before the end of the century. Wrecking a few relatively small industrial democracies won’t have much effect on Africa (or Asia for that matter).
I say that the wrecking itself is the principal objective.
“they are in favor of pretty much anybody who stands up to the U.S.A”
Not so. They (or their leaders) aren’t in favour of Russia or Serbia.
I was going to exempt Russia, but then I remembered the 1930s and how many American Leftists were pro-Soviet and therefore willing to accept all of Stalin's atrocities . . . And, unfortunately, I generally don't remember Serbia at all - since throughout most of my life that area was called Yugoslavia.
> The Aleutian Islanders said
iSteve speaketh as if he’s spoken to them. Not many have, since there there never were many. Did iSteve get stationed at Adak?
Until they changed the rules, Adak & Amchitka were the only place in PacFleet where female sailors could get a sea duty rotation
Kind of a must, if the girl wanted to make rank.
The last thing the high-minded upper crust Jews (think Reform or Reconstructionist) wanted was for their ghetto numb-nutz cousins (think Cousin Pookie and Ray-Ray from Belz) to queer their deal in the USA.
Emma Lazarus was preaching as much to her fellow wealthy Jews in America as she was to the goyim.
You should read up on the Jewish Civil War (Haskala). It is still going on and explains a lot of Israeli and American conflict.Replies: @guest, @Karl
> the Jewish Civil War (Haskala)
I don’t agree. The Haskala was White Nationalism for Jews. The beginnings of Haskala were when secular books were released in Hebrew. I claim that the racket was doomed for the “Palestinians” in the mid 1750’s, when a math textbook was published in Hebrew.
Leftists don’t think like us. They like Fidel Castro and Che Guevara for basically the same reason they like Hillary Clinton, or that freakin’ “Beyoncee” person. Whatever those reasons may be. Abstract intellectualism has precious little to do with it.
That really is a big part of it. The debit side of the ledger--crowding, pollution, lowered social trust--is diffuse or borne by others. Nobody believes they'll end up like the Savopoulos family.
Households, business and government have all leveraged themselves far into the future, which means the economy either expands, or a lot of rich become poor. The fact that the debit side will eventually overwhelm even the short-term gains is ignored. Everybody assumes they'll be smart enough to cash in their chips and bug out when things get hairy. The middle-class schleps who support their own displacement can't or won't perceive this and their heads are filled with universalist goo.Replies: @Kyle McKenna
You must be Capital Region (as I am). I say this because stories like that one (and every city has them, most or all of the time) remain resolutely local, but on the rare occasion when the races are reversed it becomes an international mass-media sensation.
Wait a minute. Was there ever a story about a white male who tortured a black family to death? Well, there’s always Dylann Roof.
Usually when I go to my local DMV all I see are women & People Of Color behind the counters and it is extremely disorganized. Once in awhile they will have a token White male employee, but most of the time not even that.Replies: @Kyle McKenna
In most places, the DMV is a good indicator of where the entire society is headed. I live in a 90+ percent white area, but the DMV is almost always about 80% POC, including a large immigrant (non-English-speaking) contingent. Staff and clientele alike.
Nor are they likely to. Never underestimate the value of preening. To be a SJW is to advertise your caring, sympathy, and sensitivity. The key word in that sentence is not caring, sympathy, or sensitivity but “advertise”.
It’s all about that warm feeling you get from impressing others. The actual consequences of the policies you promote? Someone else can deal with those.
Futurist who said " I always thought I would live long enough to see a man land on the Moon, but I never dreamed I would live to see the last man land on the Moon."Replies: @Kyle McKenna
Forgive me, but that reminds me of Sarah Silverman, speaking to an elementary-school classroom: “If we can put a man on the moon, we can put a man with AIDS on the moon. And if we can put a man with AIDS on the moon, we can put everyone with AIDS on the moon!”
Obama votes with his feet -- he seems to want to be nowhere near too many people who look like Trayvon Martin (the son he never had):
Moving van spotted outside Obama family's new home
WUSA reporter Bruce Leshan tweeted a picture that he said shows a moving van outside the Obamas’ new home in the residential neighborhood of Kalorama.
The Kalorama area of DC is > 80% white, and < 5% black.Replies: @Jefferson
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Obama votes with his feet — he seems to want to be nowhere near too many people who look like Trayvon Martin (the son he never had):”
PG County is not that far from The White House, yet Barack Hussein Obama has zero interest in living among his Negro tribe there.
The Rockefeller Foundation also was doing a great job in killing malaria-spreading mosquitoes in the tropics until “Silent Spring” destroyed that project. It boggles the mind to imagine how many people could have been saved if the project had been completed.
A movie can afford to be high-minded even if its characters can’t. I consider it a fatal artistic flaw to allow yourself to be constrained by your creations in that manner.
Indians were also easily integrated into American society and Indian symbolism was popular from early days. For example, the 45th Infantry Division, Oklahoma National Guard, that Montgomery enlisted in had as its symbol the Thunderbird and contained members from numerous Indian tribes but not one black, blacks being segregated in separate units.
Boyington and Bauer served as Marine Corps fighter pilots when no black, mixed race or otherwise, would have been even considered, and Evans commanded a destroyer at a time when blacks would have only served as cooks or the like.
Being part Indian was something to be proud of at a time when being part black would have been a secret shame. Being called "Chief" or "Indian Joe" was not at all derogatory. Willie of Bill Mauldin's "Willie and Joe" cartoon GI duo was a Choctaw Indian and soldiers loved and identified with his character and saw nothing odd in an Indian and a white being best friends.
Part of that attitude may be that American Indians were seen as fighters, unlike blacks, who were seen as mere menials. And while the native Mexican empires of the Aztecs and Incas had quickly fallen to a handful of Spaniards, American Indians refused to give in and fought century after century until the bitter end, giving as good as they got right up till it was all over. Not for nothing was William Sherman's middle name Tecumseh.Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Old fogey
I don’t recall ever hearing that 17th and 18th century colonists found the Indians to be stupid. They were most often characterized as uncommonly brave and cruel, but never stupid.
There are some old photographs from the early 19th century Chicago in the historical society museum that show Indian women walking the streets of the city in well-cut Victorian dresses and hats. They were not shy in adopting the customs and fashions of the newcomers in their midst. Since most whites found Indian features and coloring not especially unattractive, I would imagine that there are many Americans who bear Indian genes and are completely unaware of it. It certainly would have been the smarter Indians who left the reservations early on to join the wider society. They would have blended easily into the European gene pool.
In later years, newcomers to the western plains and mountains were warned that the Indian would out-ride, out-shoot, out-fight, out-last and out-smart them. John Neihardt's epic Cycle of the West, once called America's Iliad and now completely forgotten, describes Indians as dangerous and worthy foes, as well as containing the story of love between a white man and an Indian woman.Yes. Or joined the wider society before there were reservations or before they were forced on to them. If you can't beat them, join them.
A classic contemporary depiction of a fight between worthy foes, Lt. George Grummond, Co. C, 2nd Cavalry, and the Lakota Sioux American Horse, Dec. 21, 1866:
http://i.imgur.com/qZydJPY.jpgReplies: @Old fogey
Not so. They (or their leaders) aren't in favour of Russia or Serbia.Replies: @Old fogey
Thank you for reading my comment so carefully, Mr. Nephew.
I was going to exempt Russia, but then I remembered the 1930s and how many American Leftists were pro-Soviet and therefore willing to accept all of Stalin’s atrocities . . . And, unfortunately, I generally don’t remember Serbia at all – since throughout most of my life that area was called Yugoslavia.
Black people are loud, extroverted and love to complain. Indians tend to be quiet, stoic and consider it unseemly to draw attention to their problems. Black people also actively contribute to US pop culture. Indians rarely do so.
To be fair, SJWs did make a big stink about the pipeline going through Indian lands in North Dakota. Thing is, that was a hopelessly obscure issue. The problem with Hillary was that she had no ideological core. For example, if a prog complained about the banks, that risked drawing attention to Hillary's taking money from them. After awhile, the North Dakota pipeline seemed like the one thing a true believing progressive could complain about without implicating Hillary.Replies: @Jefferson, @duncsbaby, @Whoever, @Mr. Anon
“To be fair, SJWs did make a big stink about the pipeline going through Indian lands in North Dakota.”
I don’t even think the prog protestors in that case care about Indians or their issues – they seem to view it entirely through the lens of Climate Change and the idea that the hydrocarbon industry is always evil. I agree with the reasons you mentioned for modern SJW’s seeming indifference to Indian affairs.
How do you figure it was unintended? We generally presume that people intend the ordinary consequences of their acts.
There aren’t many townies in Manchester (a super-zip) — forgivable for title coolness reasons, and there’s no way you’re buying beer at 2:30 AM in Massa — forgivable for story reasons. Overall a fantastic movie, but one of the most depressing you’ll ever see.
Is it as depressing as Affliction or Nil by Mouth or A Time for Drunken Horses or It Rains in My Village?
The last two are such downers that I got depressed just typing their titles.Replies: @snorlax
Leftists haven’t been fighting for these things. We know that because, as the Left’s power has grown and the Left has effected such radical changes in many regards, these things haven’t happened. In fact, some of them have moved significantly in the other direction.
To take up the role of a literary critic, there is a definite pattern to all this. Leftist cant is a genre all its own, with characteristic tropes and structural elements. To one who has learned how to deconstruct it, it becomes even more tedious than it had been before; but this painful step is nonetheless obligatory, for it is vitally important to avoid getting lost in the details of Leftist speechifying. Never react to the words of a Leftist, for their declarations of this sort amount to nothing but purely instrumental sloganeering, the content of which is, in the last analysis, irrelevant. Their actions alone matter, and in this as in every other case their acts are ones of piracy and destruction directed at their host society.
Suppose there was a film of the leaders of this women's march making their impassioned plea (I don't know whether there is in fact or not). Now suppose we were to watch this film, not tonight, but 30 or 40 years from now, long after events of 2017 have passed under the bridge. In that case we would be looking not at contemporary troubles to be dealt with, but at "history," the cold dead echoes the past preserved on a magnetic disk. Then it would be easy to see how completely beside the point were any of the messages scrawled on protest signs or shouted into microphones. The entire significance of the event lies in the action, in the agitation itself, in the anger expressed on the faces, whether somnolently smug or awakened into a crazed and baleful fervence. The protest signs will soon be cast aside and trampled underfoot with all the ceremony of yesterday's ticker tape, which in light of their merely instrumental vale is what they most in fact resemble.
I fear that Rightists have often in the past expended too much time and energy fighting a fruitless battle of words with Leftist troublemakers. At best this may have helped us to clarify our own positions and cement our own identity, but it advanced the front not one yard. Words and concepts matter only to us, not to them; and the truth of any matter has neither enlightened nor deterred them. Argumentation will become even less useful as time goes on, for, as I mentioned above, the slogans are becoming increasingly unnecessary pretexts. Leftism is approximating more and more to the untrammeled mob violence which is its true form. Under these conditions, the Right must steel itself to become what it truly is---literally the defender of civilization. The time for education and debate is over, for that presumes good will on the part of one's opponent. The stark choice is now before us to either preserve our patrimony or let it sink into the fallow wastes engendered by Leftist savagery. To carry the torch, or heed the plaque.Replies: @ChrisZ, @Ivy, @Je Suis Charlie Martel, @Kylie
Excellent
No matter how poor they were, they could have covered their feet with some sort of basic shoe/clog.
Poor people in northern Europe had to do this out of necessity, lest their feet froze off.
Unless the said hogs were fed on human excrement – an oriental but never a European custom – then this route of infection would simply be impossible. Hookworms are not tapeworms and are dependent on human feet and human excrement for their life cycle – they have no intermediate host.
Millions of potenal refugees who will never be able to move to Europe/America. Tragic.
Do these liberal arts clowns we keep on electing not have even the slightest interest in security?Replies: @Anonym
Do these liberal arts clowns we keep on electing not have even the slightest interest in security?
I don’t think so, judging by members of Hillary’s entourage such as John “password” Podesta. Maybe a little less time Spirit Cooking with Marina, a little more time focusing on how to win an election or even paying attention to security briefings would have gone a long way to success. Work ethic is boring but few win without it.
Poor people in northern Europe had to do this out of necessity, lest their feet froze off.Replies: @Jack D
My father told me that Polish peasants would go barefoot all summer, saving their boots for the winter. I think some Amish kids still go barefoot in the summer.
“Overall a fantastic movie, but one of the most depressing you’ll ever see.”
Is it as depressing as Affliction or Nil by Mouth or A Time for Drunken Horses or It Rains in My Village?
The last two are such downers that I got depressed just typing their titles.
At least to an MA native like me, the characters feel like truly real people who might live down, and as events unfold you begin to feel uncomfortably voyeuristic to be watching them at their most defenseless. (Again, I mean that as high praise, but I wouldn't fault anyone for skipping it).Replies: @Kylie
To take up the role of a literary critic, there is a definite pattern to all this. Leftist cant is a genre all its own, with characteristic tropes and structural elements. To one who has learned how to deconstruct it, it becomes even more tedious than it had been before; but this painful step is nonetheless obligatory, for it is vitally important to avoid getting lost in the details of Leftist speechifying. Never react to the words of a Leftist, for their declarations of this sort amount to nothing but purely instrumental sloganeering, the content of which is, in the last analysis, irrelevant. Their actions alone matter, and in this as in every other case their acts are ones of piracy and destruction directed at their host society.
Suppose there was a film of the leaders of this women's march making their impassioned plea (I don't know whether there is in fact or not). Now suppose we were to watch this film, not tonight, but 30 or 40 years from now, long after events of 2017 have passed under the bridge. In that case we would be looking not at contemporary troubles to be dealt with, but at "history," the cold dead echoes the past preserved on a magnetic disk. Then it would be easy to see how completely beside the point were any of the messages scrawled on protest signs or shouted into microphones. The entire significance of the event lies in the action, in the agitation itself, in the anger expressed on the faces, whether somnolently smug or awakened into a crazed and baleful fervence. The protest signs will soon be cast aside and trampled underfoot with all the ceremony of yesterday's ticker tape, which in light of their merely instrumental vale is what they most in fact resemble.
I fear that Rightists have often in the past expended too much time and energy fighting a fruitless battle of words with Leftist troublemakers. At best this may have helped us to clarify our own positions and cement our own identity, but it advanced the front not one yard. Words and concepts matter only to us, not to them; and the truth of any matter has neither enlightened nor deterred them. Argumentation will become even less useful as time goes on, for, as I mentioned above, the slogans are becoming increasingly unnecessary pretexts. Leftism is approximating more and more to the untrammeled mob violence which is its true form. Under these conditions, the Right must steel itself to become what it truly is---literally the defender of civilization. The time for education and debate is over, for that presumes good will on the part of one's opponent. The stark choice is now before us to either preserve our patrimony or let it sink into the fallow wastes engendered by Leftist savagery. To carry the torch, or heed the plaque.Replies: @ChrisZ, @Ivy, @Je Suis Charlie Martel, @Kylie
So well said. Thank you.
There are some old photographs from the early 19th century Chicago in the historical society museum that show Indian women walking the streets of the city in well-cut Victorian dresses and hats. They were not shy in adopting the customs and fashions of the newcomers in their midst. Since most whites found Indian features and coloring not especially unattractive, I would imagine that there are many Americans who bear Indian genes and are completely unaware of it. It certainly would have been the smarter Indians who left the reservations early on to join the wider society. They would have blended easily into the European gene pool.Replies: @Whoever
I haven’t read that, either. Early histories (Parkman’s, for example), novels (Cooper’s, for example) and poems (Longfellow’s, for example), depict Indians much as you say, as well as ascribing to them positive, even noble, attributes.
In later years, newcomers to the western plains and mountains were warned that the Indian would out-ride, out-shoot, out-fight, out-last and out-smart them. John Neihardt’s epic Cycle of the West, once called America’s Iliad and now completely forgotten, describes Indians as dangerous and worthy foes, as well as containing the story of love between a white man and an Indian woman.
Yes. Or joined the wider society before there were reservations or before they were forced on to them. If you can’t beat them, join them.
A classic contemporary depiction of a fight between worthy foes, Lt. George Grummond, Co. C, 2nd Cavalry, and the Lakota Sioux American Horse, Dec. 21, 1866:
Is it as depressing as Affliction or Nil by Mouth or A Time for Drunken Horses or It Rains in My Village?
The last two are such downers that I got depressed just typing their titles.Replies: @snorlax
I haven’t seen any of those but, without spoiling things, it’s hard to imagine a movie that’s more of a downer. Much of the reason for that is it’s one of the most superbly acted and written films I’ve ever seen.
At least to an MA native like me, the characters feel like truly real people who might live down, and as events unfold you begin to feel uncomfortably voyeuristic to be watching them at their most defenseless. (Again, I mean that as high praise, but I wouldn’t fault anyone for skipping it).
Same for Nil by Mouth, written and directed by Gary Oldman about a dysfunctional family headed by a violent alcoholic, with brilliant acting by Ray Winstone and Kathy Burke. Oldman based the characters on his own family. https://youtu.be/7JywzKfmWawNSFWI think Casey Affleck is a terrific actor.Replies: @guest
Immigration does just that. It makes it harder for whites to transfer wealth to their children and perpetuate white privileged through low taxation and less governmentReplies: @Forbes, @a Newsreader
You’ve got it precisely backward! The only thing that will save the country from injustice and disaster is the promotion of white privilege. Why else are the preferred destinations of the world’s poor all societies whose historical policies were those of low taxes, small government, and white privilege?
The wealth you want to redistribute is the product of white privilege. No white privilege, no prosperity.
At least to an MA native like me, the characters feel like truly real people who might live down, and as events unfold you begin to feel uncomfortably voyeuristic to be watching them at their most defenseless. (Again, I mean that as high praise, but I wouldn't fault anyone for skipping it).Replies: @Kylie
I highly recommend Affliction, with brilliant acting by Nick Nolte and James Coburn about a toxic father-son relationship.
Same for Nil by Mouth, written and directed by Gary Oldman about a dysfunctional family headed by a violent alcoholic, with brilliant acting by Ray Winstone and Kathy Burke. Oldman based the characters on his own family.
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I think Casey Affleck is a terrific actor.
Same for Nil by Mouth, written and directed by Gary Oldman about a dysfunctional family headed by a violent alcoholic, with brilliant acting by Ray Winstone and Kathy Burke. Oldman based the characters on his own family. https://youtu.be/7JywzKfmWawNSFWI think Casey Affleck is a terrific actor.Replies: @guest
I don’t consider Affliction a downer. I look at it as a horror movie. Not sure if that was the intention, but that’s how it plays in my head.
As an old school, flat cap wearing trade unionist I consider myself a real leftist, as opposed to the bien pensant identity politics liberals who get called by media “The Left” these days, ie Amanda Marcotte and such.
We were warning you people about globalism and open borders back in the days of the Battle For Seattle, and got called unAmerican for it. But Uncle Pat knew.
Anyhow, as far as “today’s leftists” go, most of them have no concept of the dignity of labor and the solidarity forged when men work together in teams to accomplish production and tame nature. They’re bourgeois individualists and pencil pushing geeks to a (wo)man.
In later years, newcomers to the western plains and mountains were warned that the Indian would out-ride, out-shoot, out-fight, out-last and out-smart them. John Neihardt's epic Cycle of the West, once called America's Iliad and now completely forgotten, describes Indians as dangerous and worthy foes, as well as containing the story of love between a white man and an Indian woman.Yes. Or joined the wider society before there were reservations or before they were forced on to them. If you can't beat them, join them.
A classic contemporary depiction of a fight between worthy foes, Lt. George Grummond, Co. C, 2nd Cavalry, and the Lakota Sioux American Horse, Dec. 21, 1866:
http://i.imgur.com/qZydJPY.jpgReplies: @Old fogey
Thank you so much for all of the information “Whoever,” I really appreciate it!
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