The Unz Review • An Alternative Media Selection$
A Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media
 TeasersiSteve Blog
Wokeism as Applied Borderline Personality Disorder
Email This Page to Someone

 Remember My Information



=>

Bookmark Toggle AllToCAdd to LibraryRemove from Library • B
Show CommentNext New CommentNext New ReplyRead More
ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
AgreeDisagreeThanksLOLTroll
These buttons register your public Agreement, Disagreement, Thanks, LOL, or Troll with the selected comment. They are ONLY available to recent, frequent commenters who have saved their Name+Email using the 'Remember My Information' checkbox, and may also ONLY be used three times during any eight hour period.
Ignore Commenter Follow Commenter
Search Text Case Sensitive  Exact Words  Include Comments
List of Bookmarks

According to the Mayo Clinic:

Cluster B personality disorders are characterized by dramatic, overly emotional or unpredictable thinking or behavior. They include antisocial personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, histrionic personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder.

Three of the problems are pretty self-explanatory, but “borderline” is used to mean:

Impulsive and risky behavior, such as having unsafe sex, gambling or binge eating
Unstable or fragile self-image
Unstable and intense relationships
Up and down moods, often as a reaction to interpersonal stress
Suicidal behavior or threats of self-injury
Intense fear of being alone or abandoned
Ongoing feelings of emptiness
Frequent, intense displays of anger
Stress-related paranoia that comes and goes

I’m not sure if all those add up to one overall thing, but I guess they tend to go together. Kind of a crazy ex-girlfriend problem personality.

iSteve commenter Altai argues:

All the evidence I see is that this mass cohort of adolescent girls insisting they are male are just a subset of girls with BPD [Borderline Personality Disorder] and an internet connection.

One question I’d pose: Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated? Do they exist? …

Are older women suddenly announcing they’ve always been a boy on the inside? Or just girls at impressionable ages?

It is common for conservative commentators and ‘TERFs’ to claim these girls would just have become lesbians (‘The Dems are the real homophobes!”) but the evidence I see from their own communities shows that ones who are sexually attracted to males are the majority now. …

At first the line was “I am a man trapped inside a women’s body” (There was no line for F-t0-Ms because until a few years ago there were practically none of them, though, hilariously they’ve recently been starting drama online because existing trans ‘spaces’ were ‘erasing’ them because they were and had been so tiny in number until recently) because this was the line which would be most socially acceptable. You and the speaker weren’t really supposed to believe it and it didn’t matter since there were few trans people and they didn’t make much of an impact.

Now I’ve been seeing increasing numbers of them taking it literally. As in, they are biologically male or female. (Not, let’s expand the definition to fit us in too but “I have always been biologically male/female” in a 1984 way.) And that’s just delusional and the kind of thing you need to have your brain wired in a particular way to insist upon.

Just for fun I typed ‘trans personality disorder’ into Twitter. The bulk of the posts brought up by standard search (It won’t show every post) have trans people proudly proclaiming their borderline personality disorder. Seriously, these people are all over social media, they aren’t hiding.

https://twitter.com/search?q=trans%20personality%20disorder&src=typed_query

Like anorexia in the past, trans is attractive to borderlines. It is just the most insane maladaptive coping mechanism ever. Very few psychological disorders in 2021 have medical or surgical interventions. But this one, despite the condition not being very well understood is not only approved but there is huge pressure to expand these services as wide and early as possible. The APA has lost all credibility.

And there are copious studies of trans individuals and personality disorders, cluster B keeps coming up. Think about it. Even if you had the impulse for it, would you? Knowing the social consequences for everyone. Would you? Parents give up a lot of happiness for their children, not dressing up like a woman when you want, even if you had the impulse would not be hard. Yet time and time again we see these married men with children, who even have quite good jobs imploding all of that. That belies something about their character. How many profiles of Sailer-type trans ‘women’ mention that as men they used to be assholes? Quite a few.

Let me point out that the phrase “Sailer-type trans ‘women'” means ex-men like my old classmate, the heroic entrepreneur, not like me.

Here is a recent Western study.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32120872/

Eighty-seven participants (40 transgender women and 47 transgender men) completed the Personality Inventory for DSM-5 and the Structured Clinical Interview for DSM-IV Axis II personality disorders. … Nearly 50% of participants showed at least one PD diagnosis, with no gender differences in prevalence. Borderline PD was the most frequent diagnosis in the overall sample.

I also like how the abstract politely mentions that the trans more resemble their sex of origin psychologically.

And the concentrations of people with certain personality disorders shows itself again in their activism, it’s histrionic.

And wokeness more generally has become histrionic. (Frequent threats that if they don’t let their child transition they will surely commit suicide, doesn’t sound like BPD at all…)

Steve once wrote during the period where ‘there are no girls on the internet’ and Ron Paul was ‘the internet’s candidate’ that to some extent libertarianism was just applied autism.

That’s a coinage by Across Difficult Country.

I wonder if we mightn’t be served well to start seeing wokeness as applied BPD.

Today the power users of the internet are not guys with Asperger’s, they’ve teenage girls with cluster B disorders. We’re all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues and so far it’s nearly torn the Western world apart in just a few years.

 
Hide 132 CommentsLeave a Comment
Commenters to Ignore...to FollowEndorsed Only
Trim Comments?
  1. Thanks for the Christmas check, Altai!

    • LOL: Hangnail Hans
    • Replies: @Richard B
    @Polistra


    We’re all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues and so far it’s nearly torn the Western world apart in just a few years.
     
    If that's the case why not take child abuse seriously? Especially since most of it is multi-generational.

    One answer is that if there's two things Americans, and not just Americans, do not want to talk about it's Family Systems and Social Class. They both just hit too close to home. The first one literally. In short, most people don't want to know, they want to judge.

    That's why they'd prefer to moralize about the symptoms so as to ignore the causes. Then again, moralizing has always been the preferred strategy for avoiding real problems with serious social consequences. Why bother when you just judge?

  2. anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    1. personality disorders don’t exist. with the exception of psychopathy. but it’s not a disorder. it’s just a pseudoscientific word for “evil”.

    2. commenter altai and ateve appear to believe that professional wrestling is real.

    3. woke-ism is just something to distract the woke and the anti-woke from thinking about actual political questions. because if they did a lot of billionaires’ heads would be on sticks.

    4. steve’s sports entertainment journalism proves the addage: “the greatest prize in journalism isn’t the pulitzer. it’s a bullet in the head from the CIA or mossad.

    • Agree: Mario Partisan
    • Disagree: West reanimator
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @anon

    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.

    But that doesn't mean that the woke aren't a threat or that they can be ignored while we focus on billionaires.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @SunBakedSuburb, @Shetland

    , @El Dato
    @anon


    personality disorders don’t exist
     
    What you gonna believe, me or your screaming girlfriend?

    Immediately wrecking your post like that, man!

    It is actually amazing that everyone is not constantly mad as a hatter. Rational planning and decisions are far and few between and we don't even know how brains do it.

    https://i.postimg.cc/gkG44zjB/asuka-shoryu-langley-hates-herself-and-wants-to-die.gif

    > YouTube & social meedja
    > Video games
    > Anime, Mangu and Hollywood productions

    They are crack cocaine.

    Basically, kids produce disorders at the same pace as we produce conspiracy theories.

    Replies: @Ray P

    , @James N. Kennett
    @anon


    1. personality disorders don’t exist. with the exception of psychopathy. but it’s not a disorder. it’s just a pseudoscientific word for “evil”.
     
    That's what people think until they actually meet someone with a personality disorder - especially BPD. BPD includes a tendency to misconstrue every social interaction. It is a very sad condition for those who have it, and it occasionally becomes evil if for example the person tries to kill someone.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @Ray P

    , @Mario Partisan
    @anon


    4. steve’s sports entertainment journalism proves the addage: “the greatest prize in journalism isn’t the pulitzer. it’s a bullet in the head from the CIA or mossad.
     
    I've heard of that prize, I think it's called the Bullitzer. Gary Webb won it, twice!
  3. We’re all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues and so far it’s nearly torn the Western world apart in just a few years.

    Teenage boys can certainly experience emotional chaos and make dumb decisions, especially the black ones who do things like shooting at the parties and funerals in their communities. But on average their emotional problems tend not to cause chaos in the larger society as they mature.

    • Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @advancedatheist

    Excellent point. The entire legal system is designed to dissuade and punish the worst impulses of male behavior. It’s been quite effective.

    However, Western society in the current year has no system in place to curb the worst impulses of female behavior. Rather, systems like social media encourage women toward Cluster B disorders. One could argue that reality television actually rewarded women for displays of BPD and narcissism.

    Religion used to serve as a mechanism to pump the breaks on female sociopathy, but only Islam seems up to the task anymore. The results (We’re all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues) shouldn’t surprise anyone.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Anon, @AnotherDad, @njguy73

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @advancedatheist

    Living in the head of a fifteen year old female basketcase is only one tool. Look for practitioners of bestiality and sex with four year olds being the next categories of people demanding their rights and social acceptance.

    , @njguy73
    @advancedatheist

    Yes, the vast majority of teenage boys with emotional problems simply immerse themselves in video games, porn, or drugs. So long as they're not shooting up schools, no one gives a crap about them.

    Replies: @74v56ruthiyj

  4. Let me point out that the phrase “Sailer-type trans ‘women’” means ex-men like my old classmate, the heroic entrepreneur, not like me.

    After all, if you build a high-tech company, excel at male Olympic sports, produce successful science-fiction movies, train soldiers for combat or write scholarly books about how bourgeois culture transformed Western society, that must mean you have always felt like a girl on the inside.

    • LOL: Ian Smith
  5. Emily Yoffe was Dear Prudence when I started regularly reading Slate. It was then turned over to Mallory Ortberg, an adult woman previously of womens’/feminist websites The Toast and The Hairpin. Dear Prudence became parodically “woke” and uninterested in giving useful advice to real questions (hence inspiring those fake letters discussed in Gawker), and now Ortberg is Daniel Lavery, whose new advice column appears to focus on trans issues. So that’s one against your generalization. I’ve previously (and repeatedly) pointed to Todd/Emily Vanderwerff (married to Libby Hill, who previously wrote about their struggles to conceive a child) as an exception to Sailer’s generalization about late-onset ex-men being hard-charging masculine types rather than NPR folk.

    Perhaps my knowledge is distorted by hearing from Katie Herzog (who complains that lesbian spaces are disappearing), but in terms of ex-females I’ve mostly heard of lesbians who continued dating the same pool of women after transition. Ortberg called herself a bisexual and is currently married to an ex-man (hence the new last name).

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @TGGP


    is currently married to an ex-man
     
    So, like, that could change at any moment?

    Must be reassuring to xir spouse.
    , @Anonymous
    @TGGP

    There's also Sadie Doyle (now goes by"Jude"), another former popular Internet feminist now freshly turned FtM. Easy to confuse her with Ortberg, as both are insipid bores always lashing out at Herzog and Singal and whoever else has not quite gone totally insane yet. Simplest way to differentiate between them is to remember that Doyle's husband is not an ex-man. Yet.

    A couple of years ago she was just a boring, aging, "problematic" Elizabeth Warren fan. Derided as a Karen and the embodiment of "white feminism", rapidly fading in popularity and left in the dust by all the diverse new queer kids. Now he's stunning and brave and rebelliously living his truth in transphobic Amerikkka, all the while shaking down Substack.

    She gave birth just months before "transitioning" and now writes about her and her husband's "gay relationship" and the challenges of gay fatherhood. At least Lavery and Ortberg don't have kids to abuse.

    , @Art Deco
    @TGGP

    Mallory Ortberg is the daughter of California megachurch pastor John Ortberg. One of her projects has been humiliating and injuring her father.

    Another of his children is John Ortberg III. His son does not have it in for him, but is an embarrassment as his paedophilia is public knowledge (do not believe anyone has ever accused John Ortberg III of molesting anyone).

    His third child is Laura Ortberg Turner, who is a columnist for Christianity Today and Religion News Service (which is to say the Vichy wing of American evangelicalism). I think he got some grandchildren out of her, however.

  6. Matthew Yglesias on what’s good for the Jews….Or, at least what’s best for Jews like him:

    Beyond Trump being a total s[***]head, there are some real affinities between antisemitic nationalist thought and right-wing zionist thought and real tensions between right-wing zionist thought and those of us enjoying the cosmopolitan good life here in the diaspora.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @syonredux

    What can we do to completely stop them from enjoying life in the diaspora?

    , @Expletive Deleted
    @syonredux


    those of us enjoying the cosmopolitan good life here in the diaspora
     
    The diaspora. Now, would that usually be called "Other People's Countries", Matty?
  7. According to the Mayo Clinic:

    Tip: it’s Mayo Clinic. No article. Now you can sound like those in the know!

    Let me point out that the phrase “Sailer-type trans ‘women’” means ex-men like my old classmate, the heroic entrepreneur, not like me.

    Hey, if worse comes to wurst…

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Reg Cæsar

    That's a lot of baloney.

  8. @anon
    1. personality disorders don't exist. with the exception of psychopathy. but it's not a disorder. it's just a pseudoscientific word for "evil".

    2. commenter altai and ateve appear to believe that professional wrestling is real.

    3. woke-ism is just something to distract the woke and the anti-woke from thinking about actual political questions. because if they did a lot of billionaires' heads would be on sticks.

    4. steve's sports entertainment journalism proves the addage: "the greatest prize in journalism isn't the pulitzer. it's a bullet in the head from the CIA or mossad.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @El Dato, @James N. Kennett, @Mario Partisan

    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.

    But that doesn’t mean that the woke aren’t a threat or that they can be ignored while we focus on billionaires.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @AndrewR

    AndrewR wrote:


    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.
     
    We need to distinguish between SWPL types pretending to care about poor Blacks (if they really cared, they would try to deal with Black-on-Black crime), versus kids who are not happy with the sex they were born into.

    The latter is very sad and very serious: my daughter in college has run into this with a number of friends or former friends.

    When Sailer and I were kids, and even more when our parents were kids, girls were encouraged to think that that they would grow up to be wives and mothers and that this would be fun. Boys were taught that they would lead and provide for a family, and that this would be hard work, but that it would be rewarding. Sailer and I were both Scouts, and a lot of us took seriously that "A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful..."

    Girls were taught that it was their job to say "No" (until they got married), and boys were taught they had to expect that and accept it.

    Were sexual roles before 1970 too rigid and confining? Yeah, probably.

    But they provided a basic framework for kids' self-image and planning for their adult lives, especially for kids who were insecure and lacking in judgment.

    A lot of the kids nowadays who are confused about their sex are not just virtue signaling or being used by the oligarchs. From what I hear from my daughter, this is a real tragedy.

    We adults have failed, very dramatically, to pass on to the younger generation basic information about the nature of the human species.

    And a lot of young people are suffering now -- and will end up suffering for their entire lives -- as a result.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Rooster12, @mc23, @James N. Kennett, @nebulafox, @Thea, @JR Ewing, @AnotherDad, @Technite78, @Expletive Deleted

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @AndrewR

    "We all know that wokeness is largely [a] top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires."

    The oligarchs weaponize the material indigenous to all humans, emotional fragility and mental illness, and use it in their psychic war against us poor suckers.

    , @Shetland
    @AndrewR

    This sounds plausible. Would you care to explain a bit more about how this works to benefit this billionaire class? I ask this sincerely as someone who one might refer to as a “normie.”

    Replies: @AndrewR

  9. @syonredux
    Matthew Yglesias on what's good for the Jews....Or, at least what's best for Jews like him:

    Beyond Trump being a total s[***]head, there are some real affinities between antisemitic nationalist thought and right-wing zionist thought and real tensions between right-wing zionist thought and those of us enjoying the cosmopolitan good life here in the diaspora.

    https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1471923252691939329

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Expletive Deleted

    What can we do to completely stop them from enjoying life in the diaspora?

  10. anonymous[224] • Disclaimer says:

    French journalist Natacha Rey has published a 58-page dossier claiming, regarding Président of France Emmanuel Macron, that

    Macron’s older wife Brigitte is 100% confirmed to be a trans male, who was originally named Jean-Michel Trogneux …

    Ms Rey says in her 3 years of research she learned that:
    – Young Mr Trogneux ‘disappears’ after an early life
    – Brigitte Macron seems to have no youth record
    – Her children seem to have another mother

    Note how ‘male’ Brigitte Macron appears in many photos, such as here, with male characteristics such as broad shoulders, longer arms, skin more like an older male than an older female … Brigitte usually wearing a wig … in this public photo she looks a bit like Richard Branson

    After seducing Emmanuel Macron as a teen, ‘Jean-Michel or Brigitte’ is the one who introduced Macron to Rothschild, the bank where he started his career. She is the one who introduced him to Jacques Attali, the elite Jewish figure linked with all French presidents since the 1980s, who then introduced him to previous president François Hollande who, in turn, appointed Macron as Minister of Finances. It is suggested Brigitte herself is actually Emmanuel Macron’s ‘handler’ on behalf of elites.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @anonymous

    Interesting, but what about Frau Obama's "package"?

    One could ask Monsieur Macron. Surgical modifications were not all that good 30 years ago and still are not. It's not like you can clone a "gender"-modified body in a Tleilaxu tank as a drop-in replacement.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @anonymous

    Interesting for the backgrounder on French politics, but aren't those "broad shoulders" just the cut of that jacket? And those hips look feminine. Pelvic development is sexually dimorphic and hard to fake.

    As other's have been complaining ("they're trying to distract us with tranny stuff"), the political background seems more significant than Brigette's gender status.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @IHTG
    @anonymous

    Well, in that case she's a trans male who is against pronouns!

    , @Ray P
    @anonymous

    So, La Cage aux Folles (1978) came true and moved to the Elysee? Is this the queer version of The Manchurian Candidate?

  11. @TGGP
    Emily Yoffe was Dear Prudence when I started regularly reading Slate. It was then turned over to Mallory Ortberg, an adult woman previously of womens'/feminist websites The Toast and The Hairpin. Dear Prudence became parodically "woke" and uninterested in giving useful advice to real questions (hence inspiring those fake letters discussed in Gawker), and now Ortberg is Daniel Lavery, whose new advice column appears to focus on trans issues. So that's one against your generalization. I've previously (and repeatedly) pointed to Todd/Emily Vanderwerff (married to Libby Hill, who previously wrote about their struggles to conceive a child) as an exception to Sailer's generalization about late-onset ex-men being hard-charging masculine types rather than NPR folk.

    Perhaps my knowledge is distorted by hearing from Katie Herzog (who complains that lesbian spaces are disappearing), but in terms of ex-females I've mostly heard of lesbians who continued dating the same pool of women after transition. Ortberg called herself a bisexual and is currently married to an ex-man (hence the new last name).

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Art Deco

    is currently married to an ex-man

    So, like, that could change at any moment?

    Must be reassuring to xir spouse.

  12. Like anorexia in the past, trans is attractive to borderlines.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Almost Missouri

    Are there any decent statistics on prevalence of anorexia, bulimia, cutting, and trans- over time by the American Psychiatric Association or similar?

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @Almost Missouri

  13. The woke are crazy, who’d of thunk it?

    • Agree: Forbes
  14. @anon
    1. personality disorders don't exist. with the exception of psychopathy. but it's not a disorder. it's just a pseudoscientific word for "evil".

    2. commenter altai and ateve appear to believe that professional wrestling is real.

    3. woke-ism is just something to distract the woke and the anti-woke from thinking about actual political questions. because if they did a lot of billionaires' heads would be on sticks.

    4. steve's sports entertainment journalism proves the addage: "the greatest prize in journalism isn't the pulitzer. it's a bullet in the head from the CIA or mossad.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @El Dato, @James N. Kennett, @Mario Partisan

    personality disorders don’t exist

    What you gonna believe, me or your screaming girlfriend?

    Immediately wrecking your post like that, man!

    It is actually amazing that everyone is not constantly mad as a hatter. Rational planning and decisions are far and few between and we don’t even know how brains do it.

    > YouTube & social meedja
    > Video games
    > Anime, Mangu and Hollywood productions

    They are crack cocaine.

    Basically, kids produce disorders at the same pace as we produce conspiracy theories.

    • Replies: @Ray P
    @El Dato

    The Internet is a particle accelerator - every time one turns it on and twiddles the nobs hundreds of new kinds of sexual identities appear like sub-atomic particles. It will take a Murray Gell-Mann of sexual neurosis to sort it out into Quark, Strangeness and Charm.

  15. @anonymous
    French journalist Natacha Rey has published a 58-page dossier claiming, regarding Président of France Emmanuel Macron, that

    Macron's older wife Brigitte is 100% confirmed to be a trans male, who was originally named Jean-Michel Trogneux ...
     
    Ms Rey says in her 3 years of research she learned that:
    - Young Mr Trogneux 'disappears' after an early life
    - Brigitte Macron seems to have no youth record
    - Her children seem to have another mother
    https://i.ibb.co/CzsrnxQ/Brigitte-and-Jean-Michel.jpg

    Note how 'male' Brigitte Macron appears in many photos, such as here, with male characteristics such as broad shoulders, longer arms, skin more like an older male than an older female ... Brigitte usually wearing a wig ... in this public photo she looks a bit like Richard Branson
    https://i.ibb.co/2yykPPp/Brigitte-Macron-on-street.jpg

    After seducing Emmanuel Macron as a teen, 'Jean-Michel or Brigitte' is the one who introduced Macron to Rothschild, the bank where he started his career. She is the one who introduced him to Jacques Attali, the elite Jewish figure linked with all French presidents since the 1980s, who then introduced him to previous president François Hollande who, in turn, appointed Macron as Minister of Finances. It is suggested Brigitte herself is actually Emmanuel Macron's 'handler' on behalf of elites.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @IHTG, @Ray P

    Interesting, but what about Frau Obama’s “package”?

    One could ask Monsieur Macron. Surgical modifications were not all that good 30 years ago and still are not. It’s not like you can clone a “gender”-modified body in a Tleilaxu tank as a drop-in replacement.

  16. borderline personality disorder, histrionic personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder

    Kind of a crazy ex-girlfriend problem personality.

    Madonna’s (plodding) take on it:

    This “Borderline” is, of course, superior:

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    And "Frozen Warnings" superior to both, though I haven't a clue what she's on about. Not sure if I envy the people who do claim to know, or feel sorry for them.


    "Friar hermit stumbles over
    The cloudy borderline
    Frozen warnings close to mine
    Close to the frozen borderline
    Frozen warnings close to mine
    Close to the frozen borderline"
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJf8s3t0qCY


    "i think i can pretty much say that _the marble index_ changed my life. digging into the lyrical content was the beginning of a great adventure" says listener Harlan Mackey.

    Well I dug into the lyrical content too, and was left with sore arms and a pile of random words.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  17. @anonymous
    French journalist Natacha Rey has published a 58-page dossier claiming, regarding Président of France Emmanuel Macron, that

    Macron's older wife Brigitte is 100% confirmed to be a trans male, who was originally named Jean-Michel Trogneux ...
     
    Ms Rey says in her 3 years of research she learned that:
    - Young Mr Trogneux 'disappears' after an early life
    - Brigitte Macron seems to have no youth record
    - Her children seem to have another mother
    https://i.ibb.co/CzsrnxQ/Brigitte-and-Jean-Michel.jpg

    Note how 'male' Brigitte Macron appears in many photos, such as here, with male characteristics such as broad shoulders, longer arms, skin more like an older male than an older female ... Brigitte usually wearing a wig ... in this public photo she looks a bit like Richard Branson
    https://i.ibb.co/2yykPPp/Brigitte-Macron-on-street.jpg

    After seducing Emmanuel Macron as a teen, 'Jean-Michel or Brigitte' is the one who introduced Macron to Rothschild, the bank where he started his career. She is the one who introduced him to Jacques Attali, the elite Jewish figure linked with all French presidents since the 1980s, who then introduced him to previous president François Hollande who, in turn, appointed Macron as Minister of Finances. It is suggested Brigitte herself is actually Emmanuel Macron's 'handler' on behalf of elites.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @IHTG, @Ray P

    Interesting for the backgrounder on French politics, but aren’t those “broad shoulders” just the cut of that jacket? And those hips look feminine. Pelvic development is sexually dimorphic and hard to fake.

    As other’s have been complaining (“they’re trying to distract us with tranny stuff”), the political background seems more significant than Brigette’s gender status.

    • Agree: Pixo
    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Almost Missouri

    This is totally stupid. There's a subset of crazies on the Internet who are dedicated to outing supposed transgenders. They are one step over from Pizzagate and Qanon.

    Mr. and Mrs. Macron are bad enough as they really are: the skinny, ultra-fashionable wizened GILF and her puppy dog son husband without exaggerating.

    Her looks are common among a certain type of wealthy Frenchwoman.

    Replies: @mc23

  18. I wrote this one about author Jennifer Finney Boylan, a trans woman who is still married to the mother of his children. I made it O’Boylan because I needed the extra syllable. It sounds more musical, anyway.

    Jennifer Finney O’Boylan:
    A natural marriage you’re spoilin’.
    Your wife had your tykes;
    Now you’ve made her a dyke,
    And that’s why from your kiss she’s recoilin’.

    • Thanks: Gabe Ruth
  19. Anon[237] • Disclaimer says:

    Let me point out that the phrase “Sailer-type trans ‘women’” means ex-men like my old classmate, the heroic entrepreneur, not like me.

    April 1 is not that far off. You should start drafting your coming-out post now and get it really polished. It could mean a big traffic bump. Think about it. Borrow some clothes and makeup from your wife for a photo.

  20. Anonymous[286] • Disclaimer says:
    @TGGP
    Emily Yoffe was Dear Prudence when I started regularly reading Slate. It was then turned over to Mallory Ortberg, an adult woman previously of womens'/feminist websites The Toast and The Hairpin. Dear Prudence became parodically "woke" and uninterested in giving useful advice to real questions (hence inspiring those fake letters discussed in Gawker), and now Ortberg is Daniel Lavery, whose new advice column appears to focus on trans issues. So that's one against your generalization. I've previously (and repeatedly) pointed to Todd/Emily Vanderwerff (married to Libby Hill, who previously wrote about their struggles to conceive a child) as an exception to Sailer's generalization about late-onset ex-men being hard-charging masculine types rather than NPR folk.

    Perhaps my knowledge is distorted by hearing from Katie Herzog (who complains that lesbian spaces are disappearing), but in terms of ex-females I've mostly heard of lesbians who continued dating the same pool of women after transition. Ortberg called herself a bisexual and is currently married to an ex-man (hence the new last name).

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Art Deco

    There’s also Sadie Doyle (now goes by”Jude”), another former popular Internet feminist now freshly turned FtM. Easy to confuse her with Ortberg, as both are insipid bores always lashing out at Herzog and Singal and whoever else has not quite gone totally insane yet. Simplest way to differentiate between them is to remember that Doyle’s husband is not an ex-man. Yet.

    A couple of years ago she was just a boring, aging, “problematic” Elizabeth Warren fan. Derided as a Karen and the embodiment of “white feminism”, rapidly fading in popularity and left in the dust by all the diverse new queer kids. Now he’s stunning and brave and rebelliously living his truth in transphobic Amerikkka, all the while shaking down Substack.

    She gave birth just months before “transitioning” and now writes about her and her husband’s “gay relationship” and the challenges of gay fatherhood. At least Lavery and Ortberg don’t have kids to abuse.

  21. @anonymous
    French journalist Natacha Rey has published a 58-page dossier claiming, regarding Président of France Emmanuel Macron, that

    Macron's older wife Brigitte is 100% confirmed to be a trans male, who was originally named Jean-Michel Trogneux ...
     
    Ms Rey says in her 3 years of research she learned that:
    - Young Mr Trogneux 'disappears' after an early life
    - Brigitte Macron seems to have no youth record
    - Her children seem to have another mother
    https://i.ibb.co/CzsrnxQ/Brigitte-and-Jean-Michel.jpg

    Note how 'male' Brigitte Macron appears in many photos, such as here, with male characteristics such as broad shoulders, longer arms, skin more like an older male than an older female ... Brigitte usually wearing a wig ... in this public photo she looks a bit like Richard Branson
    https://i.ibb.co/2yykPPp/Brigitte-Macron-on-street.jpg

    After seducing Emmanuel Macron as a teen, 'Jean-Michel or Brigitte' is the one who introduced Macron to Rothschild, the bank where he started his career. She is the one who introduced him to Jacques Attali, the elite Jewish figure linked with all French presidents since the 1980s, who then introduced him to previous president François Hollande who, in turn, appointed Macron as Minister of Finances. It is suggested Brigitte herself is actually Emmanuel Macron's 'handler' on behalf of elites.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @IHTG, @Ray P

    Well, in that case she’s a trans male who is against pronouns!

  22. I wouldn’t rely too much on the Web diagnoses.

    A friend of mine has BPD, and doesn’t exhibit most of these “canonical” symptoms. Anyway, there are too many woke people, so it is statistically impossible they’re all mentally ill, and with the most serious & incurable PD.

    They’re just hypocritical & cowardly, add a few points for stupidity, that’s all….

    And one should admit to oneself that most people remain, until they kick the bucket, emotionally immature & psychologically unstable, not possessing largeness of mind & the capability for critical thinking.

    That’s how the world goes …

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @Bardon Kaldian

    If you're astute, you'll notice that psychosis is a universal human trait. Almost everyone falls into it on some topics or in some situations.

    What is different is that politics, more than ever before, now serves as a the main arena for its popular manifestation.

    And what's really terrible is that much of contemporary political ideology serves to encourage psychotic tendencies among the believers, either by proxy or directly.

    But you're right about BPD. Besides a lot of women with BPD are really more narcissistic and a lot of men are diagnosed wrongly in the opposite direction. Also, narcissists tend to see borderlines everywhere and vice versa, and a lot of so-called autism on the internet is actually narcissism too.

    Not necessarily as a full-blown personality disorder, which is rare, but as a strong set of traits.

    Finally, narcissism involves no less psychosis than BPD, it is just that narcissists are better at distorting their image to persuade themselves of its integrity.

  23. The phrase “crazy ex-girlfriend” should probably be updated to some sort of professional status or put in the DSM or something. (Does anybody else here share my opinion that the DSM should actually be called the DS/M?)

    I’ve had rather more than my share of crazy ex-girlfriends, and my experience mostly was that you could cure them of craziness just by putting your foot down and saying, “Stop being crazy!” and their response would be like, “Thank you, I’ve been waiting my entire life for a man to just say that to me in the right tone of voice!” I had a girlfriend once who began doing that awful “cutting-herself” thing, and I told her quite bluntly to just knock it off because it was bad for her, and then she stopped doing it at once, and then later admitted that the only reason she had done it in the first place was to provoke me to order her to stop. Then of course, obligatory make-up sex.

    Never skip that part!

    • Replies: @Sulu
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    One of the true ironies of female human nature is that the crazy ones are super hot in bed. And the ones that are nice and normal are plain vanilla in the sack. It's a shame it took me till my late twenties to figure that out. But after that it was smooth sailing, relatively speaking.

    Sulu

  24. Somewhat on topic, a carjacking in Minneapolis:

  25. @AndrewR
    @anon

    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.

    But that doesn't mean that the woke aren't a threat or that they can be ignored while we focus on billionaires.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @SunBakedSuburb, @Shetland

    AndrewR wrote:

    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.

    We need to distinguish between SWPL types pretending to care about poor Blacks (if they really cared, they would try to deal with Black-on-Black crime), versus kids who are not happy with the sex they were born into.

    The latter is very sad and very serious: my daughter in college has run into this with a number of friends or former friends.

    When Sailer and I were kids, and even more when our parents were kids, girls were encouraged to think that that they would grow up to be wives and mothers and that this would be fun. Boys were taught that they would lead and provide for a family, and that this would be hard work, but that it would be rewarding. Sailer and I were both Scouts, and a lot of us took seriously that “A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful…”

    Girls were taught that it was their job to say “No” (until they got married), and boys were taught they had to expect that and accept it.

    Were sexual roles before 1970 too rigid and confining? Yeah, probably.

    But they provided a basic framework for kids’ self-image and planning for their adult lives, especially for kids who were insecure and lacking in judgment.

    A lot of the kids nowadays who are confused about their sex are not just virtue signaling or being used by the oligarchs. From what I hear from my daughter, this is a real tragedy.

    We adults have failed, very dramatically, to pass on to the younger generation basic information about the nature of the human species.

    And a lot of young people are suffering now — and will end up suffering for their entire lives — as a result.

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon, AnotherDad
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @PhysicistDave

    I never said that every person who identifies as trans or non-binary is faking it. But ten or even five years ago, many of them would have just identified as "gender non-conforming" without thinking that they weren't actually the sex they were identified at birth as. Transmania is a social psychosis that is partly organic, but is also pushed hard by the same people pushing CRT and other sociopathologies. Part of it is rooted in transhumanism and another part is rooted in the increasing powerlessness that the average person has (or perceives themselves to have) over their own destiny.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    , @Rooster12
    @PhysicistDave

    When you mention these things it takes me back to Sociology 101 and “social norms”. Social norms are the behaviors/attitudes/roles that are deemed “normal” for that particular society. What we’ve seen over the years is a great change in these social norms, really from a society rooted in Christianity to one that’s lacking a definitive moral compass.

    I think we also need to look at the spectrum of how impressionable people are. Some people are very slow moving to any change while others jump on the newest bandwagon whatever it may be. What we see now is endless programming telling kids that it’s ok (even encouraged) to be lgbtq and that mental disorders are almost a badge of honor; especially among women. True victimhood is the single greatest status symbol we have today in America, and many of the societal problems we see stem from this mentality.

    , @mc23
    @PhysicistDave

    I agree that this is a real tragedy and that it is being exploited.

    The singer Billie Elish recently confessed about the effect watching porn at the age of 11 had on her.
    The pop star stated that watching violent and “abusive” pornography resulted in her having sleep paralysis and night terrors. “It got to a point where I couldn’t watch anything else unless it was violent.”

    Combine that with other some many other factors, social media and media coverage and you have a literally mind altering storm for younger people. Even for older people it's difficult. I had a neighbor thirty years old who left his wife whom he had been with since high school because of porn addiction.

    There’s more involved than just porn I just use that example to illustrate some of the problems young people face. Our society is now capable of brain washing and gas lighting masses of people on a scale not known before.

    As Enoch Powell said: “The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils.”
    Our institutions and leadership are rotten. Smoking, a minor vice is demonized. Self-mutilation is cheered. I ask how many people in power actually believe in multiple genders, that biology is superseded by mental illness? I suspect virtually none but it’s convenient for various reasons and self-deception becomes easier with all the echo chambers.

    https://www.christianpost.com/news/billie-eilish-says-porn-destroyed-my-brain-after-exposure-at-11.html

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    , @James N. Kennett
    @PhysicistDave


    We adults have failed, very dramatically, to pass on to the younger generation basic information about the nature of the human species.
     
    Agreed. And we have even failed to pass on rules to live by, like the old rules that you described.

    As Douglas Murray often asks, "Where are the adults in the room?"

    Part of the problem is that when we attempt to convey basic information about our species, we sound like our grandparents. And our information contradicts what children learn from school, TV, social media, and their friends; and it is most definitely not PC.

    Part of that information is that a substantial fraction of teenagers feel some degree of alienation and not fitting in; this will pass, it is nothing to be afraid of, and it is part of growing up. It does not mean that you are a boy trapped in a girl's body (or vice versa).

    It is very sad to meet a girl who believes the latter, and has been ensnared by the clinics who should be telling her to go away and come back when she is 21. On the contrary, a girl who goes to such a clinic will find that she is knocking at an open door.
    , @nebulafox
    @PhysicistDave

    >From what I hear from my daughter, this is a real tragedy.

    Yes.

    , @Thea
    @PhysicistDave

    Of course a lot of us still teach our kids this. Those who hose to discard the Bible are rudderless. Whether you think is a fantasy or not is irrelevant when it provides a pole star.

    Belief in a higher power takes pressure off the individual. You can say I’m not doing this because God says it’s wrong instead finding your own morality. It is liberating especially for the young.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @JR Ewing
    @PhysicistDave


    We adults have failed, very dramatically, to pass on to the younger generation basic information about the nature of the human species.
     
    100% this.

    It takes an insane amount of hubris to think that the traditions and customs that developed over thousands of years were just arbitrary. People were the same 10,000 years ago as they are now. We stayed doing things the way we did in response to the same problems we have now. Women were crazy then and men were irrationally horny. That hasn’t changed. Society evolved ways to deal with those issues.

    I am ambivalent about conspiracy theories that it is all in purpose, though. I think it’s more of a slippery slope where some (a lot of) people just wanted to get laid more easily and some women didn’t want to be housewives and it all snowballed from there. Not a conspiracy as much as just stupidity and ignorance about the human condition.

    , @AnotherDad
    @PhysicistDave

    Great comment Phys. Dave. Great.


    When Sailer and I were kids, and even more when our parents were kids, girls were encouraged to think that that they would grow up to be wives and mothers and that this would be fun. Boys were taught that they would lead and provide for a family, and that this would be hard work, but that it would be rewarding. Sailer and I were both Scouts, and a lot of us took seriously that “A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful…”

    Girls were taught that it was their job to say “No” (until they got married), and boys were taught they had to expect that and accept it.

    Were sexual roles before 1970 too rigid and confining? Yeah, probably.

    But they provided a basic framework for kids’ self-image and planning for their adult lives, especially for kids who were insecure and lacking in judgment.
     
    There has been a great attack on normality, on "the Great Silent Majority"--going about its business, living by its norms, passing on its culture--across all dimensions.

    But one of the most successful aspects has been their ability to screw up civilized sexual roles--marriage and family--which both connect/bind individuals via family to their nation, culture, race and civilization and what actually make people happy.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @Technite78
    @PhysicistDave

    Agreed, excellent comment. Thanks.

    , @Expletive Deleted
    @PhysicistDave

    Oh man you just flashbacked me. Now I have a knot in my stomach.
    Having to go and speak to The Dad before you got to take Pwincess out, even for a burger in broad daylight.
    Where, when, who else, and back by this time or ...
    God help you if you're not where you said you'd be, son.
    I'd have to speak to your dad. Or her crazy uncles.

  26. @PhysicistDave
    @AndrewR

    AndrewR wrote:


    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.
     
    We need to distinguish between SWPL types pretending to care about poor Blacks (if they really cared, they would try to deal with Black-on-Black crime), versus kids who are not happy with the sex they were born into.

    The latter is very sad and very serious: my daughter in college has run into this with a number of friends or former friends.

    When Sailer and I were kids, and even more when our parents were kids, girls were encouraged to think that that they would grow up to be wives and mothers and that this would be fun. Boys were taught that they would lead and provide for a family, and that this would be hard work, but that it would be rewarding. Sailer and I were both Scouts, and a lot of us took seriously that "A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful..."

    Girls were taught that it was their job to say "No" (until they got married), and boys were taught they had to expect that and accept it.

    Were sexual roles before 1970 too rigid and confining? Yeah, probably.

    But they provided a basic framework for kids' self-image and planning for their adult lives, especially for kids who were insecure and lacking in judgment.

    A lot of the kids nowadays who are confused about their sex are not just virtue signaling or being used by the oligarchs. From what I hear from my daughter, this is a real tragedy.

    We adults have failed, very dramatically, to pass on to the younger generation basic information about the nature of the human species.

    And a lot of young people are suffering now -- and will end up suffering for their entire lives -- as a result.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Rooster12, @mc23, @James N. Kennett, @nebulafox, @Thea, @JR Ewing, @AnotherDad, @Technite78, @Expletive Deleted

    I never said that every person who identifies as trans or non-binary is faking it. But ten or even five years ago, many of them would have just identified as “gender non-conforming” without thinking that they weren’t actually the sex they were identified at birth as. Transmania is a social psychosis that is partly organic, but is also pushed hard by the same people pushing CRT and other sociopathologies. Part of it is rooted in transhumanism and another part is rooted in the increasing powerlessness that the average person has (or perceives themselves to have) over their own destiny.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @AndrewR

    AndrewR wrote to me:


    I never said that every person who identifies as trans or non-binary is faking it.
     
    I wasn't challenging your earlier post, just expanding on it. Since you inspired me to go into some more details, I felt that in fairness I should link to your comment. Sorry if that was not clear.

    I just wanted to emphasize that, in pointing out the idiocy of the Left, we must not lose sight of the fact that they are really, truly destroying actual human lives.

    AR also wrote:

    Part of it is rooted in transhumanism and another part is rooted in the increasing powerlessness that the average person has (or perceives themselves to have) over their own destiny.
     
    Yeah, though I doubt that transhumanism, as goofy as it surely is, has an effect on very many people.

    Humans are not like butterflies: they do not mature naturally on their own. They need help from already mature adults. And we are failing to give that help. And, yes, as you say, in our supposedly liberated society, people feel less control over their own destiny than most people felt in the supposedly repressive past.

    We need to understand why this is so.

    In our society, lots of boys do not want to become men. Lots of girls do not want to become women. And many men and women to do not want to have children.

    This is a disaster for our species, not to mention our country.
  27. Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated? Do they exist?

    One recalls the occasional reasonably well-attested account (and fairly frequent traditional English ballad motif) of a woman who lived as a man to go to sea in the age of sail. That is, of course, hardly enough to explain the whole situation, but the strict answer to “Do they exist?” appears to be “Yes, at least a few.”

  28. I think sometimes the way it expresses itself can be redolent of the disorder but the bigger connection I was making is that like you saw with Asperger’s syndrome tending to produce men with weak social empathy (And people who likely grew up being good at school and resenting the uncouth who weren’t finding an ideology that implicitly for them meant a world that rewarded them for that) what has become woke-ism started on Tumblr which is a place that had huge early communities of teenage girls with BPD. It was hear that people like that could come together in their thousands and create a worldview insulated from normal people, a place to justify themselves and they created a ratcheting virtue-signalling ideology from which they could engage in endless social aggression and social policing.

    It isn’t the expression so much as the appeal where the applied part comes in for me. BPD women often hang around with or are related to, men with cluster B traits themselves and end up sexually abused. They then develop an insanely distorted perspective of what men are like because they also like insight. From this we see the appeal of ‘All men are trash’ part of the ideology and the extremely female environment of Tumblr meant ideologies that it’s ideologies and expression took that bent more broadly.

    The particular contours of current social-media mediated wokeism comes form Tumblr and Tumblr became what it became because it was the early social media environment largely devoid of non teenage girls and it was particularly popular with girls with BPD due to it’s art and Stan culture focus. Indeed the ability of ‘Stan culture’ stuff to trend or dominate on social media (As well as spill out of it as many targets of Stan culture find out) is a more politically neutral expression of this influence but a more revealing one since nobody outside Stan culture interacts with it.

    I keep going back to this clip from the Floyd protests in Stockholm. (Note the lack of boys and the total lack of boys who look like heterosexual ethnic Swedes. Also note the lack of anybody who looks over 21.) Note the sign saying ‘White silence is violence’ in English because, of course and note the policewoman’s totally hysterical breakdown. This is not normal psychology but she and those girls seem to resonate with each other. (Meanwhile her more normal partner looks on uncomprehending)

    Something is going on here.

    And again more adventures in Twitter searches, try ‘BPD Tumblr’ or ‘Worse than Tumblr’.

    https://twitter.com/search?q=bpd%20tumblr&src=typed_query

    https://twitter.com/search?q=worse%20than%20tumblr&src=typed_query&f=top

    It’s not people making this point, it’s former Tumblr users making observations.

  29. I can see this in my son’s friend Madison who refers to herself as Oliver. When they were in high school she decided she was a guy. She got about 100k followers online telling her how wonderful and brave she was. In 2019 I think she realized white guys don’t have it so good so now she’s a woman again. But online she keeps up the facade cause she likes the attention.

  30. @PhysicistDave
    @AndrewR

    AndrewR wrote:


    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.
     
    We need to distinguish between SWPL types pretending to care about poor Blacks (if they really cared, they would try to deal with Black-on-Black crime), versus kids who are not happy with the sex they were born into.

    The latter is very sad and very serious: my daughter in college has run into this with a number of friends or former friends.

    When Sailer and I were kids, and even more when our parents were kids, girls were encouraged to think that that they would grow up to be wives and mothers and that this would be fun. Boys were taught that they would lead and provide for a family, and that this would be hard work, but that it would be rewarding. Sailer and I were both Scouts, and a lot of us took seriously that "A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful..."

    Girls were taught that it was their job to say "No" (until they got married), and boys were taught they had to expect that and accept it.

    Were sexual roles before 1970 too rigid and confining? Yeah, probably.

    But they provided a basic framework for kids' self-image and planning for their adult lives, especially for kids who were insecure and lacking in judgment.

    A lot of the kids nowadays who are confused about their sex are not just virtue signaling or being used by the oligarchs. From what I hear from my daughter, this is a real tragedy.

    We adults have failed, very dramatically, to pass on to the younger generation basic information about the nature of the human species.

    And a lot of young people are suffering now -- and will end up suffering for their entire lives -- as a result.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Rooster12, @mc23, @James N. Kennett, @nebulafox, @Thea, @JR Ewing, @AnotherDad, @Technite78, @Expletive Deleted

    When you mention these things it takes me back to Sociology 101 and “social norms”. Social norms are the behaviors/attitudes/roles that are deemed “normal” for that particular society. What we’ve seen over the years is a great change in these social norms, really from a society rooted in Christianity to one that’s lacking a definitive moral compass.

    I think we also need to look at the spectrum of how impressionable people are. Some people are very slow moving to any change while others jump on the newest bandwagon whatever it may be. What we see now is endless programming telling kids that it’s ok (even encouraged) to be lgbtq and that mental disorders are almost a badge of honor; especially among women. True victimhood is the single greatest status symbol we have today in America, and many of the societal problems we see stem from this mentality.

  31. Women are more prone to borderline personality disorders. Shrinks have said so. Women are more into wokeism. Black women more so than white women. They get weaponized on Twitter with their smart phones to swarm after dissidents of all stripes. In their empty head lives, they love when their Twitter mob makes a big score. Getting an old white male professor fired, for example. Thus opening up a slot for a sistah to slide into. It’s all about gettin’ paid. Blacks have an expression during their lynch mob launch, “Twitter do your thang”. “Black Twitter” is real and is a common expression.

    Female borderline personality disorder has been given free rein in the great Covid panic of 2020 and successive Covid variant panics. Because, just by their psychological nature, women are more safety and security oriented. Like crazed Jacinda Arden who runs New Zealand ______There are equal numbers of of fem. men who join them and propel the next worldwide Covid_xyz panic fest.
    A feminized society will be more emotion drive. More prone to Covid_xyz hypochondria and hysteria. Hypochondria? You know who visits doctors the most for real and imagined whatevers. Men prefer to ride out what ails them. A few beers will solve every problem anyways, and sure beats seeing the Doc.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Clyde

    And who concocted Covid? That crazy old bitch bat lady in China, as the PLA supervised her dual-purpose (civilian and military) bioweapon research. The PLA and CCP call the shots for this kind of demented, morals free, gain of function research. The Chinese elites leave nothing up to chance. As best they can of course. They are not supermen. Looking at their real estate speculation sector crumbling. Much of the low trust Chinese economy is run "Chinese fire drill" fashion.

  32. @Clyde
    Women are more prone to borderline personality disorders. Shrinks have said so. Women are more into wokeism. Black women more so than white women. They get weaponized on Twitter with their smart phones to swarm after dissidents of all stripes. In their empty head lives, they love when their Twitter mob makes a big score. Getting an old white male professor fired, for example. Thus opening up a slot for a sistah to slide into. It's all about gettin' paid. Blacks have an expression during their lynch mob launch, "Twitter do your thang". "Black Twitter" is real and is a common expression.

    Female borderline personality disorder has been given free rein in the great Covid panic of 2020 and successive Covid variant panics. Because, just by their psychological nature, women are more safety and security oriented. Like crazed Jacinda Arden who runs New Zealand ______There are equal numbers of of fem. men who join them and propel the next worldwide Covid_xyz panic fest.
    A feminized society will be more emotion drive. More prone to Covid_xyz hypochondria and hysteria. Hypochondria? You know who visits doctors the most for real and imagined whatevers. Men prefer to ride out what ails them. A few beers will solve every problem anyways, and sure beats seeing the Doc.

    Replies: @Clyde

    And who concocted Covid? That crazy old bitch bat lady in China, as the PLA supervised her dual-purpose (civilian and military) bioweapon research. The PLA and CCP call the shots for this kind of demented, morals free, gain of function research. The Chinese elites leave nothing up to chance. As best they can of course. They are not supermen. Looking at their real estate speculation sector crumbling. Much of the low trust Chinese economy is run “Chinese fire drill” fashion.

  33. “Impulsive and risky behavior, such as having unsafe sex, ”

    I’m not sure this is a symptom observed in good faith of BPD. “Unsafe” sex is to mean natural sex free of contraceptives, or what exactly? Banging the person you just met in the bathroom bar? I’d support defining the latter as such but not the former.

    From Altai:

    “All the evidence I see is that this mass cohort of adolescent girls insisting they are male are just a subset of girls with BPD [Borderline Personality Disorder] and an internet connection.”

    I have two teenage daughters, and here is my observation based on their network of friends: Much of the sexuality related behavior (declaring oneself to be bisexual, pansexual, tranny, etc) is the product of a social-media-supercharged pathological competition/need for attention. The desire to be trendy, specifically among females, drives much of these sexual declarations, and it gets more unhealthy. In the 70’s women had bell bottoms, in the 80’s blue eye shadow, 90’s was goth, 00’s was tattoos, and here we are currently with young females seeking to ingest male hormones and get their breasts removed.

    So I find it curious that symptoms of BPD don’t mention this unhealthy addiction to attention, but I think it’s a significant part of the entire phenomenon.

  34. @advancedatheist

    We’re all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues and so far it’s nearly torn the Western world apart in just a few years.
     
    Teenage boys can certainly experience emotional chaos and make dumb decisions, especially the black ones who do things like shooting at the parties and funerals in their communities. But on average their emotional problems tend not to cause chaos in the larger society as they mature.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @njguy73

    Excellent point. The entire legal system is designed to dissuade and punish the worst impulses of male behavior. It’s been quite effective.

    However, Western society in the current year has no system in place to curb the worst impulses of female behavior. Rather, systems like social media encourage women toward Cluster B disorders. One could argue that reality television actually rewarded women for displays of BPD and narcissism.

    Religion used to serve as a mechanism to pump the breaks on female sociopathy, but only Islam seems up to the task anymore. The results (We’re all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues) shouldn’t surprise anyone.

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    "Excellent point. The entire legal system is designed to dissuade and punish the worst impulses of male behavior. It’s been quite effective."

    Tell that to the woke CEO of major retailers who penned that letter to the House and Senate leadership about retail loses.

    , @Anon
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    The old way of punishing histrionic women used to be to shut them up, but you can't do that to someone with an internet connection.

    What's more, internet media platforms feed off histrionic juvenile nonsense, instead of feeling they have to quell it. There are times when I think that if you removed all the people under 18 from the internet, usage of sites like Twitter would dwindle to almost nothing.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Gunnar von Cowtown



    However, Western society in the current year has no system in place to curb the worst impulses of female behavior. Rather, systems like social media encourage women toward Cluster B disorders. One could argue that reality television actually rewarded women for displays of BPD and narcissism.
     
    Another great comment, here--thanks Cowtown--and a paragraph getting right to the heart of it.

    ~~

    Civilization--i.e. any civilized society prior to 1960--used to be run by men and have a clear understanding that women were less logical, more emotional, their concerns and understanding very personal. (Of course, men screwed up plenty--see 1914--but at least there was an element of reason/responsibility involved.)

    Feminism changed--damaged--this understanding. Everyone had to pretend that women were equally rational and informed thinkers and their thoughts "must be taken seriously". Now with social media we have the ravings and virtue signaling of millions of young women--the least rational, least thoughtful, least informed people on the planet--which apparently can not be dismissed.

    We have these bogus lines like "twitter erupts" as if there's some sort of consensus against this or that. But the consensus--if it exists at all--is the consensus of a bunch of girls and young women. Absolutely worthless in terms of anything resembling "rational thought".

    We need leaders who simply state truths and dismiss the ensuing meltdown of the BPDariat. ("I'm interested in truth and what benefits normal families and maintaining civilization" would be a simple explanation.) I.e. grow a pair.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    , @njguy73
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Yes, we must all live in the heads of 15-year-olds with Daddy issues.

    Doesn't say much for the daddies, does it?

  35. @TGGP
    Emily Yoffe was Dear Prudence when I started regularly reading Slate. It was then turned over to Mallory Ortberg, an adult woman previously of womens'/feminist websites The Toast and The Hairpin. Dear Prudence became parodically "woke" and uninterested in giving useful advice to real questions (hence inspiring those fake letters discussed in Gawker), and now Ortberg is Daniel Lavery, whose new advice column appears to focus on trans issues. So that's one against your generalization. I've previously (and repeatedly) pointed to Todd/Emily Vanderwerff (married to Libby Hill, who previously wrote about their struggles to conceive a child) as an exception to Sailer's generalization about late-onset ex-men being hard-charging masculine types rather than NPR folk.

    Perhaps my knowledge is distorted by hearing from Katie Herzog (who complains that lesbian spaces are disappearing), but in terms of ex-females I've mostly heard of lesbians who continued dating the same pool of women after transition. Ortberg called herself a bisexual and is currently married to an ex-man (hence the new last name).

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Art Deco

    Mallory Ortberg is the daughter of California megachurch pastor John Ortberg. One of her projects has been humiliating and injuring her father.

    Another of his children is John Ortberg III. His son does not have it in for him, but is an embarrassment as his paedophilia is public knowledge (do not believe anyone has ever accused John Ortberg III of molesting anyone).

    His third child is Laura Ortberg Turner, who is a columnist for Christianity Today and Religion News Service (which is to say the Vichy wing of American evangelicalism). I think he got some grandchildren out of her, however.

    • Thanks: YetAnotherAnon
  36. Bryan Caplan said the same thing about libertarianism, although he used the phrase “moral overlearning” instead.

    https://www.econlib.org/archives/2013/08/libertarianism_3.html

  37. @advancedatheist

    We’re all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues and so far it’s nearly torn the Western world apart in just a few years.
     
    Teenage boys can certainly experience emotional chaos and make dumb decisions, especially the black ones who do things like shooting at the parties and funerals in their communities. But on average their emotional problems tend not to cause chaos in the larger society as they mature.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @njguy73

    Living in the head of a fifteen year old female basketcase is only one tool. Look for practitioners of bestiality and sex with four year olds being the next categories of people demanding their rights and social acceptance.

  38. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @advancedatheist

    Excellent point. The entire legal system is designed to dissuade and punish the worst impulses of male behavior. It’s been quite effective.

    However, Western society in the current year has no system in place to curb the worst impulses of female behavior. Rather, systems like social media encourage women toward Cluster B disorders. One could argue that reality television actually rewarded women for displays of BPD and narcissism.

    Religion used to serve as a mechanism to pump the breaks on female sociopathy, but only Islam seems up to the task anymore. The results (We’re all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues) shouldn’t surprise anyone.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Anon, @AnotherDad, @njguy73

    “Excellent point. The entire legal system is designed to dissuade and punish the worst impulses of male behavior. It’s been quite effective.”

    Tell that to the woke CEO of major retailers who penned that letter to the House and Senate leadership about retail loses.

  39. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    borderline personality disorder, histrionic personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder

     


    Kind of a crazy ex-girlfriend problem personality.
     
    Madonna’s (plodding) take on it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSaC-YbSDpo

    This “Borderline” is, of course, superior:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXkZ-eeGs6A

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    And “Frozen Warnings” superior to both, though I haven’t a clue what she’s on about. Not sure if I envy the people who do claim to know, or feel sorry for them.

    “Friar hermit stumbles over
    The cloudy borderline
    Frozen warnings close to mine
    Close to the frozen borderline
    Frozen warnings close to mine
    Close to the frozen borderline”

    “i think i can pretty much say that _the marble index_ changed my life. digging into the lyrical content was the beginning of a great adventure” says listener Harlan Mackey.

    Well I dug into the lyrical content too, and was left with sore arms and a pile of random words.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @YetAnotherAnon


    And “Frozen Warnings” superior to both
     
    ???

    That was terrible.
  40. @PhysicistDave
    @AndrewR

    AndrewR wrote:


    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.
     
    We need to distinguish between SWPL types pretending to care about poor Blacks (if they really cared, they would try to deal with Black-on-Black crime), versus kids who are not happy with the sex they were born into.

    The latter is very sad and very serious: my daughter in college has run into this with a number of friends or former friends.

    When Sailer and I were kids, and even more when our parents were kids, girls were encouraged to think that that they would grow up to be wives and mothers and that this would be fun. Boys were taught that they would lead and provide for a family, and that this would be hard work, but that it would be rewarding. Sailer and I were both Scouts, and a lot of us took seriously that "A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful..."

    Girls were taught that it was their job to say "No" (until they got married), and boys were taught they had to expect that and accept it.

    Were sexual roles before 1970 too rigid and confining? Yeah, probably.

    But they provided a basic framework for kids' self-image and planning for their adult lives, especially for kids who were insecure and lacking in judgment.

    A lot of the kids nowadays who are confused about their sex are not just virtue signaling or being used by the oligarchs. From what I hear from my daughter, this is a real tragedy.

    We adults have failed, very dramatically, to pass on to the younger generation basic information about the nature of the human species.

    And a lot of young people are suffering now -- and will end up suffering for their entire lives -- as a result.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Rooster12, @mc23, @James N. Kennett, @nebulafox, @Thea, @JR Ewing, @AnotherDad, @Technite78, @Expletive Deleted

    I agree that this is a real tragedy and that it is being exploited.

    The singer Billie Elish recently confessed about the effect watching porn at the age of 11 had on her.
    The pop star stated that watching violent and “abusive” pornography resulted in her having sleep paralysis and night terrors. “It got to a point where I couldn’t watch anything else unless it was violent.”

    Combine that with other some many other factors, social media and media coverage and you have a literally mind altering storm for younger people. Even for older people it’s difficult. I had a neighbor thirty years old who left his wife whom he had been with since high school because of porn addiction.

    There’s more involved than just porn I just use that example to illustrate some of the problems young people face. Our society is now capable of brain washing and gas lighting masses of people on a scale not known before.

    As Enoch Powell said: “The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils.”
    Our institutions and leadership are rotten. Smoking, a minor vice is demonized. Self-mutilation is cheered. I ask how many people in power actually believe in multiple genders, that biology is superseded by mental illness? I suspect virtually none but it’s convenient for various reasons and self-deception becomes easier with all the echo chambers.

    https://www.christianpost.com/news/billie-eilish-says-porn-destroyed-my-brain-after-exposure-at-11.html

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @mc23

    I ask how many people in power actually believe in multiple genders, that biology is superseded by mental illness?

    I don't know any more. Growing up, I always just assumed the leaders of America's public and private institutions really were intelligent people making judgment calls on matters of serious import. Like anybody exercising executive power, sometimes they got it right, sometimes they got it wrong. And when things got broken, they tried to fix them. Someone on here mentioned that the Eisenhower v. Stevenson presidential campaign was probably the last principled political contest in the US between two smart, sincere and patriotic men and I think that's probably correct.

    Now, I don't think the "smartest people in the room" are any longer the smartest people in the room. Most of them seem pretty mid-witted or just have ridiculously pedestrian tastes and endeavors. So when a corporate president or a US Cabinet secretary gets all teary-eyed over the completely garbled, pseudo-science of "transgenderism," I think they're sincere. They don't believe in God, they do believe in space aliens, and they think a man with an XY-chromosomal pair in each one of the trillions of cells in his body somehow ended up with a female mind/spirit/juju/kia/whatever. They also believe COVID is "deadly," the jabs are "vaccines" that are 95-point-one-bazillion-percent effective, and wearing a mask does ... something. Also, blacks are disproportionately shot by cops, humans are neurologically uniform, and one billion Americans would be Heaven on Earth.

    I don't know where the smart, clear-headed, and physically courageous men went, but it's not into leadership of our institutions. I think most of them get about halfway there after 15 years, see what it's really like at the upper echelons, and decide to hunker down and retire in peace. One of the smartest men I know in the commercial insurance business did that. A brilliant relative who's a medical doctor is doing the same thing; his attitude is the whole sector is so fucked up he wouldn't want to be the head of any part of it. The US military seems especially good at making sure all the actual warrior-poets and scholars get drummed out by O-5.

    This could be really, really bad news, like the Europeans watching their seemingly irrevocable descent into World War One. Surely just a few key people saying, "No!" or a few key assassinations or a coup or two would have stopped the madness, but nobody did anything.

    Maybe the human species has got itself into a feedback loop that it can't break, and all we can do is watch and wait until the Fermi Panic sets in.

  41. @anonymous
    French journalist Natacha Rey has published a 58-page dossier claiming, regarding Président of France Emmanuel Macron, that

    Macron's older wife Brigitte is 100% confirmed to be a trans male, who was originally named Jean-Michel Trogneux ...
     
    Ms Rey says in her 3 years of research she learned that:
    - Young Mr Trogneux 'disappears' after an early life
    - Brigitte Macron seems to have no youth record
    - Her children seem to have another mother
    https://i.ibb.co/CzsrnxQ/Brigitte-and-Jean-Michel.jpg

    Note how 'male' Brigitte Macron appears in many photos, such as here, with male characteristics such as broad shoulders, longer arms, skin more like an older male than an older female ... Brigitte usually wearing a wig ... in this public photo she looks a bit like Richard Branson
    https://i.ibb.co/2yykPPp/Brigitte-Macron-on-street.jpg

    After seducing Emmanuel Macron as a teen, 'Jean-Michel or Brigitte' is the one who introduced Macron to Rothschild, the bank where he started his career. She is the one who introduced him to Jacques Attali, the elite Jewish figure linked with all French presidents since the 1980s, who then introduced him to previous president François Hollande who, in turn, appointed Macron as Minister of Finances. It is suggested Brigitte herself is actually Emmanuel Macron's 'handler' on behalf of elites.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @IHTG, @Ray P

    So, La Cage aux Folles (1978) came true and moved to the Elysee? Is this the queer version of The Manchurian Candidate?

  42. I experienced gender dysphoria growing up. It wasn’t a BPD thing. I was scared of the attention I got from adult men from a very young age. My father was dead and my mom was the sort of person who’d tell you you looked like a hooker if you wore a short skirt, so that was not a great combination of issues for figuring out how to be happy as a young woman.

    I grew up and I’m not a lesbian, although I thought I might be for awhile. I have a very male job and hobbies. I have no problem wearing a dress and lipstick, although I never got really into makeup and I strongly prefer sensible shoes. I am glad that I was given the chance to grow up and into being comfortable with my body, which I very much am.

    • Thanks: Inquiring Mind, ic1000
  43. Who are the elites most dangerous enemy/: the ethnic majority working class, with their virility. So that gets attacked by integration, immigration, and transsexualisms. The elite doing all this is at least 50% white gentile, and every bit as intelligent as the rest of their class.

  44. @Reg Cæsar

    According to the Mayo Clinic:
     
    Tip: it's Mayo Clinic. No article. Now you can sound like those in the know!

    Let me point out that the phrase “Sailer-type trans ‘women'” means ex-men like my old classmate, the heroic entrepreneur, not like me.
     
    Hey, if worse comes to wurst...



    https://www.provisioneronline.com/ext/resources/Issues/IP/2018/August/IP0818-POY-02-Ring-Bologona.jpg?t=1534171056&width=900

    Replies: @tyrone

    That’s a lot of baloney.

  45. All the evidence I see is that this mass cohort of adolescent girls insisting they are male are just a subset of girls with BPD [Borderline Personality Disorder] and an internet connection.

    One question I’d pose: Where are all the adult women who are trans who never grew up in a time when it was accepted or celebrated? Do they exist? …

    Exactly. Trans adolescent girls began to appear in large numbers only in 2012. Before then, there were several decades in which child transsexualism was “not even wrong” and was seldom mentioned at all; while adult transsexualism was at least tolerated. If so many adolescent girls are transsexual, there should have been a huge pent-up demand for sex change that was expressed only when these girls reached adulthood. This is not the case, and it is much more likely that such girls did not think of their adolescent dysphoria as transsexuality, and/or they simply grew out of it.

    • Agree: ic1000
  46. Cluster B – borderline, sociopathy, narcissim, histrionic – once you see it, you can’t unsee it.

    Mental illness is very attractive for people who want attention but can’t get it by accomplishment or adding value. Young people especially. What is more special than a young girl who imagines she is a boy? AWFLs facilitate this, because they view young, attractive, fertile girls as their competition.

    A great podcast, “Disaffected” hosted by Joshua Slocum. Slocum is a gay man who has a compelling personal history, and noticed that the Cluster B disorders were being normalized by the woke left. Cluster Bs are people who normally wouldn’t be allowed into our lives, but because of the normalization, institutionalization, and politicization of wokeness, we all have to deal with their behavior and impositions.

    • Replies: @Athenian Gentleman
    @Tom F.


    A great podcast, “Disaffected” hosted by Joshua Slocum. Slocum is a gay man who has a compelling personal history, and noticed that the Cluster B disorders were being normalized by the woke left.
     
    Thank you (and to Anon[314]) for this recommendation.
    https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/disaffected-disaffected-NXG2eB8PklK/

    Listened to the Nov. 21st episode ("Shameless: Pornography in Public School") and most of the introductory "origin story" episode. Slocum sounds pretty based.

    His takedown of NPR, particularly of their insufferably smug, self-righteous, scolding, dishonest, white-hostile employees-of-color, was both spot-on as well as quite enjoyable.

    As for the pernicious, graphically obscene propaganda in schools, I had already been aware of the phenomenon for some time, from sources such as
    https://massresistance.org/

    @njguy73:


    Porn is free and video games are very cheap.
     
    While not disputing the obvious truth and relevance of your statement, it might be noted that nothing is truly free. There may be no charge but there is always a cost.

    Remember the ZZ Top lyric,
    "You get you're money next-to-nothing, and your chicks for-free"?

    Replies: @Gamecock

  47. @anon
    1. personality disorders don't exist. with the exception of psychopathy. but it's not a disorder. it's just a pseudoscientific word for "evil".

    2. commenter altai and ateve appear to believe that professional wrestling is real.

    3. woke-ism is just something to distract the woke and the anti-woke from thinking about actual political questions. because if they did a lot of billionaires' heads would be on sticks.

    4. steve's sports entertainment journalism proves the addage: "the greatest prize in journalism isn't the pulitzer. it's a bullet in the head from the CIA or mossad.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @El Dato, @James N. Kennett, @Mario Partisan

    1. personality disorders don’t exist. with the exception of psychopathy. but it’s not a disorder. it’s just a pseudoscientific word for “evil”.

    That’s what people think until they actually meet someone with a personality disorder – especially BPD. BPD includes a tendency to misconstrue every social interaction. It is a very sad condition for those who have it, and it occasionally becomes evil if for example the person tries to kill someone.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @James N. Kennett

    "BPD includes a tendency to misconstrue every social interaction. It is a very sad condition for those who have it, and it occasionally becomes evil if for example the person tries to kill someone. "

    black personality disorder? I hear ya, brother!

    , @Ray P
    @James N. Kennett

    As a Borderline, one believes that other people have it in for one, or are reacting badly to one, and they are because of one's Borderline behaviour. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Even therapists find it difficult to suppress their dislike of Borderline personalities.

  48. In my hey day, I fit, exactly, the definition of “Borderline Personality Disorder”. It only manifested when I was in relationships that were important. When I was head over heels, I would go bat shit crazy! It happened 3 times. I am, the epitome of the crazy ex girlfriend. After menopause, I became totally “Chill”. No more crazy! It was all about the hormones. One of the exes, who has kept in contact with me for over 30 years, often remarks upon my current level headedness and calm demeanor.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    @Michelle

    I'm your nosey neighbour, and would like your opinion on the possible effects of mass hormonal contraception on as-yet immature (physically) girls and women.

    Surely monkeying around with the almost chrysalis-like chaos of the teenage hormonal system, for years, might be expected to have unacceptable outcomes in some cases at least?

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    , @Dave from Oz
    @Michelle


    It was all about the hormones.
     
    Hormonal birth control is at the root of a lot of what is wrong today with women and society in general.
  49. @PhysicistDave
    @AndrewR

    AndrewR wrote:


    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.
     
    We need to distinguish between SWPL types pretending to care about poor Blacks (if they really cared, they would try to deal with Black-on-Black crime), versus kids who are not happy with the sex they were born into.

    The latter is very sad and very serious: my daughter in college has run into this with a number of friends or former friends.

    When Sailer and I were kids, and even more when our parents were kids, girls were encouraged to think that that they would grow up to be wives and mothers and that this would be fun. Boys were taught that they would lead and provide for a family, and that this would be hard work, but that it would be rewarding. Sailer and I were both Scouts, and a lot of us took seriously that "A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful..."

    Girls were taught that it was their job to say "No" (until they got married), and boys were taught they had to expect that and accept it.

    Were sexual roles before 1970 too rigid and confining? Yeah, probably.

    But they provided a basic framework for kids' self-image and planning for their adult lives, especially for kids who were insecure and lacking in judgment.

    A lot of the kids nowadays who are confused about their sex are not just virtue signaling or being used by the oligarchs. From what I hear from my daughter, this is a real tragedy.

    We adults have failed, very dramatically, to pass on to the younger generation basic information about the nature of the human species.

    And a lot of young people are suffering now -- and will end up suffering for their entire lives -- as a result.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Rooster12, @mc23, @James N. Kennett, @nebulafox, @Thea, @JR Ewing, @AnotherDad, @Technite78, @Expletive Deleted

    We adults have failed, very dramatically, to pass on to the younger generation basic information about the nature of the human species.

    Agreed. And we have even failed to pass on rules to live by, like the old rules that you described.

    As Douglas Murray often asks, “Where are the adults in the room?”

    Part of the problem is that when we attempt to convey basic information about our species, we sound like our grandparents. And our information contradicts what children learn from school, TV, social media, and their friends; and it is most definitely not PC.

    Part of that information is that a substantial fraction of teenagers feel some degree of alienation and not fitting in; this will pass, it is nothing to be afraid of, and it is part of growing up. It does not mean that you are a boy trapped in a girl’s body (or vice versa).

    It is very sad to meet a girl who believes the latter, and has been ensnared by the clinics who should be telling her to go away and come back when she is 21. On the contrary, a girl who goes to such a clinic will find that she is knocking at an open door.

  50. The idea that we’re living in the warped vision controlled by some psychotic teenager comes straight out of Philip K Dick stuff. Read Ubik, for example. As usual, Dick predicted a lot, and presents a vision of how we live now.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Anon

    Hadn't thought of that. Jory's behind it all.

    Replies: @El Dato

  51. Anon[369] • Disclaimer says:

    What about the larger woke population which supports this mental illness of transgenderism? Don’t they have a major malfunction themselves??

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/quidditch-leagues-to-rename-sport-to-distance-from-jk-rowlings-anti-trans-positions/ar-AARVEtP

    Quidditch Leagues to Rename Sport to Distance From J.K. Rowling’s ‘Anti-Trans Positions’

    Two quidditch leagues announced this week that they are working to rename the sport in an effort to distance themselves from J.K. Rowling, citing her “anti-trans positions in recent years.”

    U.S. Quidditch and Major League Quidditch made the announcement in a press release on Wednesday and said that the “leagues will conduct a series of surveys over the next few months to guide a decision regarding the new name.”

    The two leagues noted in the announcement that the sport of quidditch was adopted from Rowling’s Harry Potter series.

    “The leagues are hoping a name change can help them continue to distance themselves from the works of J.K. Rowling, the author of the Harry Potter book series, who has increasingly come under scrutiny for her anti-trans positions in recent years,” the two leagues said in their announcement.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Anon

    J.K. Rowling forgot to have Harry Potter transition in order realize his full magical potential. She had forgotten to include any PiPOCs in the first book, but responded to criticism on that score. Transmania didn't come along until the series was already wrapped.

  52. Mental illness, weaponized against traditional America by the cultural marxist .

  53. @PhysicistDave
    @AndrewR

    AndrewR wrote:


    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.
     
    We need to distinguish between SWPL types pretending to care about poor Blacks (if they really cared, they would try to deal with Black-on-Black crime), versus kids who are not happy with the sex they were born into.

    The latter is very sad and very serious: my daughter in college has run into this with a number of friends or former friends.

    When Sailer and I were kids, and even more when our parents were kids, girls were encouraged to think that that they would grow up to be wives and mothers and that this would be fun. Boys were taught that they would lead and provide for a family, and that this would be hard work, but that it would be rewarding. Sailer and I were both Scouts, and a lot of us took seriously that "A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful..."

    Girls were taught that it was their job to say "No" (until they got married), and boys were taught they had to expect that and accept it.

    Were sexual roles before 1970 too rigid and confining? Yeah, probably.

    But they provided a basic framework for kids' self-image and planning for their adult lives, especially for kids who were insecure and lacking in judgment.

    A lot of the kids nowadays who are confused about their sex are not just virtue signaling or being used by the oligarchs. From what I hear from my daughter, this is a real tragedy.

    We adults have failed, very dramatically, to pass on to the younger generation basic information about the nature of the human species.

    And a lot of young people are suffering now -- and will end up suffering for their entire lives -- as a result.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Rooster12, @mc23, @James N. Kennett, @nebulafox, @Thea, @JR Ewing, @AnotherDad, @Technite78, @Expletive Deleted

    >From what I hear from my daughter, this is a real tragedy.

    Yes.

  54. @PhysicistDave
    @AndrewR

    AndrewR wrote:


    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.
     
    We need to distinguish between SWPL types pretending to care about poor Blacks (if they really cared, they would try to deal with Black-on-Black crime), versus kids who are not happy with the sex they were born into.

    The latter is very sad and very serious: my daughter in college has run into this with a number of friends or former friends.

    When Sailer and I were kids, and even more when our parents were kids, girls were encouraged to think that that they would grow up to be wives and mothers and that this would be fun. Boys were taught that they would lead and provide for a family, and that this would be hard work, but that it would be rewarding. Sailer and I were both Scouts, and a lot of us took seriously that "A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful..."

    Girls were taught that it was their job to say "No" (until they got married), and boys were taught they had to expect that and accept it.

    Were sexual roles before 1970 too rigid and confining? Yeah, probably.

    But they provided a basic framework for kids' self-image and planning for their adult lives, especially for kids who were insecure and lacking in judgment.

    A lot of the kids nowadays who are confused about their sex are not just virtue signaling or being used by the oligarchs. From what I hear from my daughter, this is a real tragedy.

    We adults have failed, very dramatically, to pass on to the younger generation basic information about the nature of the human species.

    And a lot of young people are suffering now -- and will end up suffering for their entire lives -- as a result.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Rooster12, @mc23, @James N. Kennett, @nebulafox, @Thea, @JR Ewing, @AnotherDad, @Technite78, @Expletive Deleted

    Of course a lot of us still teach our kids this. Those who hose to discard the Bible are rudderless. Whether you think is a fantasy or not is irrelevant when it provides a pole star.

    Belief in a higher power takes pressure off the individual. You can say I’m not doing this because God says it’s wrong instead finding your own morality. It is liberating especially for the young.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Thea


    Those who hose to discard the Bible
     
    https://miro.medium.com/max/800/0*LqvxoVuNbQwSpw2f.jpg
  55. For a concrete example of the damage a young woman with a personality disorder can do, look no further than Princess Di. By many accounts, she suffered from BPD (read about her relationship with princes’ nanny) and almost brought down the British monarchy.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @milthoslayer

    Whatever she suffered from, it's a matter of public record that:

    1. Wm. invited two of his former nannies to his wedding in 2011. One was a woman his mother had dismissed, one a woman hired by Charles after the separation that his mother sliced up in the media.

    2. She had at least three affairs, one of them with someone wholly inappropriate.

    3. Over a 21 year span of time, she had periods of estrangement from her mother, her stepmother, one of her sisters, said sister's husband, and, in her last year, her brother. This is attested to by correspondence which has been made public.

    4. She was assigned around the time of her marriage one of the Queen's ladies-in-waiting to train her for public appearances; she wouldn't co-operate.

    5. She never sat for any A-level examinations and failed all of her O-levels. She's the only one among the four Spencer siblings who did anything like this. (IIRC, her sons passed their O-levels).

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @SunBakedSuburb, @J.Ross

  56. Anon[681] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @advancedatheist

    Excellent point. The entire legal system is designed to dissuade and punish the worst impulses of male behavior. It’s been quite effective.

    However, Western society in the current year has no system in place to curb the worst impulses of female behavior. Rather, systems like social media encourage women toward Cluster B disorders. One could argue that reality television actually rewarded women for displays of BPD and narcissism.

    Religion used to serve as a mechanism to pump the breaks on female sociopathy, but only Islam seems up to the task anymore. The results (We’re all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues) shouldn’t surprise anyone.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Anon, @AnotherDad, @njguy73

    The old way of punishing histrionic women used to be to shut them up, but you can’t do that to someone with an internet connection.

    What’s more, internet media platforms feed off histrionic juvenile nonsense, instead of feeling they have to quell it. There are times when I think that if you removed all the people under 18 from the internet, usage of sites like Twitter would dwindle to almost nothing.

  57. @PhysicistDave
    @AndrewR

    AndrewR wrote:


    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.
     
    We need to distinguish between SWPL types pretending to care about poor Blacks (if they really cared, they would try to deal with Black-on-Black crime), versus kids who are not happy with the sex they were born into.

    The latter is very sad and very serious: my daughter in college has run into this with a number of friends or former friends.

    When Sailer and I were kids, and even more when our parents were kids, girls were encouraged to think that that they would grow up to be wives and mothers and that this would be fun. Boys were taught that they would lead and provide for a family, and that this would be hard work, but that it would be rewarding. Sailer and I were both Scouts, and a lot of us took seriously that "A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful..."

    Girls were taught that it was their job to say "No" (until they got married), and boys were taught they had to expect that and accept it.

    Were sexual roles before 1970 too rigid and confining? Yeah, probably.

    But they provided a basic framework for kids' self-image and planning for their adult lives, especially for kids who were insecure and lacking in judgment.

    A lot of the kids nowadays who are confused about their sex are not just virtue signaling or being used by the oligarchs. From what I hear from my daughter, this is a real tragedy.

    We adults have failed, very dramatically, to pass on to the younger generation basic information about the nature of the human species.

    And a lot of young people are suffering now -- and will end up suffering for their entire lives -- as a result.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Rooster12, @mc23, @James N. Kennett, @nebulafox, @Thea, @JR Ewing, @AnotherDad, @Technite78, @Expletive Deleted

    We adults have failed, very dramatically, to pass on to the younger generation basic information about the nature of the human species.

    100% this.

    It takes an insane amount of hubris to think that the traditions and customs that developed over thousands of years were just arbitrary. People were the same 10,000 years ago as they are now. We stayed doing things the way we did in response to the same problems we have now. Women were crazy then and men were irrationally horny. That hasn’t changed. Society evolved ways to deal with those issues.

    I am ambivalent about conspiracy theories that it is all in purpose, though. I think it’s more of a slippery slope where some (a lot of) people just wanted to get laid more easily and some women didn’t want to be housewives and it all snowballed from there. Not a conspiracy as much as just stupidity and ignorance about the human condition.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
  58. @PhysicistDave
    @AndrewR

    AndrewR wrote:


    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.
     
    We need to distinguish between SWPL types pretending to care about poor Blacks (if they really cared, they would try to deal with Black-on-Black crime), versus kids who are not happy with the sex they were born into.

    The latter is very sad and very serious: my daughter in college has run into this with a number of friends or former friends.

    When Sailer and I were kids, and even more when our parents were kids, girls were encouraged to think that that they would grow up to be wives and mothers and that this would be fun. Boys were taught that they would lead and provide for a family, and that this would be hard work, but that it would be rewarding. Sailer and I were both Scouts, and a lot of us took seriously that "A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful..."

    Girls were taught that it was their job to say "No" (until they got married), and boys were taught they had to expect that and accept it.

    Were sexual roles before 1970 too rigid and confining? Yeah, probably.

    But they provided a basic framework for kids' self-image and planning for their adult lives, especially for kids who were insecure and lacking in judgment.

    A lot of the kids nowadays who are confused about their sex are not just virtue signaling or being used by the oligarchs. From what I hear from my daughter, this is a real tragedy.

    We adults have failed, very dramatically, to pass on to the younger generation basic information about the nature of the human species.

    And a lot of young people are suffering now -- and will end up suffering for their entire lives -- as a result.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Rooster12, @mc23, @James N. Kennett, @nebulafox, @Thea, @JR Ewing, @AnotherDad, @Technite78, @Expletive Deleted

    Great comment Phys. Dave. Great.

    When Sailer and I were kids, and even more when our parents were kids, girls were encouraged to think that that they would grow up to be wives and mothers and that this would be fun. Boys were taught that they would lead and provide for a family, and that this would be hard work, but that it would be rewarding. Sailer and I were both Scouts, and a lot of us took seriously that “A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful…”

    Girls were taught that it was their job to say “No” (until they got married), and boys were taught they had to expect that and accept it.

    Were sexual roles before 1970 too rigid and confining? Yeah, probably.

    But they provided a basic framework for kids’ self-image and planning for their adult lives, especially for kids who were insecure and lacking in judgment.

    There has been a great attack on normality, on “the Great Silent Majority”–going about its business, living by its norms, passing on its culture–across all dimensions.

    But one of the most successful aspects has been their ability to screw up civilized sexual roles–marriage and family–which both connect/bind individuals via family to their nation, culture, race and civilization and what actually make people happy.

    • Thanks: Etruscan Film Star
    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @AnotherDad

    One time years ago I had this kind of difficult demanding job which took up a lot of my time, but I also had this incredibly sexy live-in girlfriend who made all my male friends jealous because she was both very cute and she also liked to sort of constantly drape herself all over me in public in alluring fashions, I guess to kind of assert ownership or something. She used to say, "Because it brings you honor."

    I came home from work one day and asked her, "well, what did you do all day?" And she said in this deliberately flippant tone, "well, ya know, I just sat around yearning for you." I took a beat, and then said, "is that what you really did?" and then she said in her honest tone of voice, "actually, yes."

    Replies: @Ray P

  59. There is an entire podcast devoted to this very topic. “Disaffected” by Joshua Slocum. Look it up.

  60. @PhysicistDave
    @AndrewR

    AndrewR wrote:


    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.
     
    We need to distinguish between SWPL types pretending to care about poor Blacks (if they really cared, they would try to deal with Black-on-Black crime), versus kids who are not happy with the sex they were born into.

    The latter is very sad and very serious: my daughter in college has run into this with a number of friends or former friends.

    When Sailer and I were kids, and even more when our parents were kids, girls were encouraged to think that that they would grow up to be wives and mothers and that this would be fun. Boys were taught that they would lead and provide for a family, and that this would be hard work, but that it would be rewarding. Sailer and I were both Scouts, and a lot of us took seriously that "A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful..."

    Girls were taught that it was their job to say "No" (until they got married), and boys were taught they had to expect that and accept it.

    Were sexual roles before 1970 too rigid and confining? Yeah, probably.

    But they provided a basic framework for kids' self-image and planning for their adult lives, especially for kids who were insecure and lacking in judgment.

    A lot of the kids nowadays who are confused about their sex are not just virtue signaling or being used by the oligarchs. From what I hear from my daughter, this is a real tragedy.

    We adults have failed, very dramatically, to pass on to the younger generation basic information about the nature of the human species.

    And a lot of young people are suffering now -- and will end up suffering for their entire lives -- as a result.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Rooster12, @mc23, @James N. Kennett, @nebulafox, @Thea, @JR Ewing, @AnotherDad, @Technite78, @Expletive Deleted

    Agreed, excellent comment. Thanks.

  61. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @advancedatheist

    Excellent point. The entire legal system is designed to dissuade and punish the worst impulses of male behavior. It’s been quite effective.

    However, Western society in the current year has no system in place to curb the worst impulses of female behavior. Rather, systems like social media encourage women toward Cluster B disorders. One could argue that reality television actually rewarded women for displays of BPD and narcissism.

    Religion used to serve as a mechanism to pump the breaks on female sociopathy, but only Islam seems up to the task anymore. The results (We’re all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues) shouldn’t surprise anyone.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Anon, @AnotherDad, @njguy73

    However, Western society in the current year has no system in place to curb the worst impulses of female behavior. Rather, systems like social media encourage women toward Cluster B disorders. One could argue that reality television actually rewarded women for displays of BPD and narcissism.

    Another great comment, here–thanks Cowtown–and a paragraph getting right to the heart of it.

    ~~

    Civilization–i.e. any civilized society prior to 1960–used to be run by men and have a clear understanding that women were less logical, more emotional, their concerns and understanding very personal. (Of course, men screwed up plenty–see 1914–but at least there was an element of reason/responsibility involved.)

    Feminism changed–damaged–this understanding. Everyone had to pretend that women were equally rational and informed thinkers and their thoughts “must be taken seriously”. Now with social media we have the ravings and virtue signaling of millions of young women–the least rational, least thoughtful, least informed people on the planet–which apparently can not be dismissed.

    We have these bogus lines like “twitter erupts” as if there’s some sort of consensus against this or that. But the consensus–if it exists at all–is the consensus of a bunch of girls and young women. Absolutely worthless in terms of anything resembling “rational thought”.

    We need leaders who simply state truths and dismiss the ensuing meltdown of the BPDariat. (“I’m interested in truth and what benefits normal families and maintaining civilization” would be a simple explanation.) I.e. grow a pair.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @AnotherDad

    "getting right to the heart of it"

    Recently I was tasked by my employer, Ben Cooper Inc., to design a mask of the late middle age white male who fervently promoted market triumphalism which mutated into to the dominant corporatism that plagues our lives today. Can you send me a picture of your face?

  62. I think it is obvious that a lot of trans people have personality disorders. It goes without saying.

    However personality disorders don’t really exist, they are just labels in DSMxx that can be used for billing insurance companies for prescribing antidepressants and mood stabilizers and antianxiety pills to people who have a variety of interpersonal and behavioral problems, but don’t really fit into psychosis categories like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.

    They are borderline, because they are borderline between psychosis and neurosis, in fact so neurotic that they might as well be psychotic for all the difference it makes.

    A person with borderline personality disorder is basically someone who is stupid, immoral, blames everyone else for their woes, likes to self harm for attention, and is often depressed or angry.

    While this might sound like a description of anyone’s ex-wife, the thing that really defines someone with borderline personality disorder is that they are incapable of holding down any kind of responsible employment or fulfilling a role such as a wife and mother.

    I have also noticed that they almost never have any kind of hobbies or interests, other than making complaints.

    So it is not surprising that many will claim to be trans. What better way to aggravate and annoy your family and get all the attention for yourself?

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Jonathan Mason

    Baloney, Jonathan Mason.

    If you feel that you must post meandering, internally-inconsistent first drafts, at least use the MORE tag.

  63. @AndrewR
    @anon

    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.

    But that doesn't mean that the woke aren't a threat or that they can be ignored while we focus on billionaires.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @SunBakedSuburb, @Shetland

    “We all know that wokeness is largely [a] top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.”

    The oligarchs weaponize the material indigenous to all humans, emotional fragility and mental illness, and use it in their psychic war against us poor suckers.

  64. @AnotherDad
    @PhysicistDave

    Great comment Phys. Dave. Great.


    When Sailer and I were kids, and even more when our parents were kids, girls were encouraged to think that that they would grow up to be wives and mothers and that this would be fun. Boys were taught that they would lead and provide for a family, and that this would be hard work, but that it would be rewarding. Sailer and I were both Scouts, and a lot of us took seriously that “A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful…”

    Girls were taught that it was their job to say “No” (until they got married), and boys were taught they had to expect that and accept it.

    Were sexual roles before 1970 too rigid and confining? Yeah, probably.

    But they provided a basic framework for kids’ self-image and planning for their adult lives, especially for kids who were insecure and lacking in judgment.
     
    There has been a great attack on normality, on "the Great Silent Majority"--going about its business, living by its norms, passing on its culture--across all dimensions.

    But one of the most successful aspects has been their ability to screw up civilized sexual roles--marriage and family--which both connect/bind individuals via family to their nation, culture, race and civilization and what actually make people happy.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    One time years ago I had this kind of difficult demanding job which took up a lot of my time, but I also had this incredibly sexy live-in girlfriend who made all my male friends jealous because she was both very cute and she also liked to sort of constantly drape herself all over me in public in alluring fashions, I guess to kind of assert ownership or something. She used to say, “Because it brings you honor.”

    I came home from work one day and asked her, “well, what did you do all day?” And she said in this deliberately flippant tone, “well, ya know, I just sat around yearning for you.” I took a beat, and then said, “is that what you really did?” and then she said in her honest tone of voice, “actually, yes.”

    • Replies: @Ray P
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Are you Tony Montana?

  65. Wokeness is just taking Progressive ideology to its logical progression. The majority of Americans actually support most of the progressive agenda. The progressive/Woke ideology is anti-white and anti-Christian. Today Christian Whites are a minority in America. Straight White males are just 25% of the US population, thus ~60% of Americans benefit from cancel culture. It will help them get into the top colleges, advance their careers and blacklist Straight Whites.

    While it is true that many progressives have psychological problems and 30% of women are taking psychotropic medications the main reason for the great awakening was due to White Christians becoming a minority in America 10 years ago. More Americans benefit from this ideology than are directly harmed by it. Young Americans are taught that they can gain racial or sexual Pokémon status points which help them advance their careers and status. Among our University students today they learn how to take advantage of their Pokémon identity points and how to gain Pokémon status points. 50% of College students are White , yet only 20% are Straight White males and 25% of white females students identify as Non-Binary or bisexual or trannsexual….

    The flight from white is real and shows no sign of ending. The solution requires White males to lead us out of this. The reason so many White females are now on psych drugs is because they cannot find suitable boyfriends and husbands. This is the same reason so many white females no longer identify as heterosexual. Since they cannot find men to satisfy them. Females become hysterical when they lack a dominant male partner. This has been known for thousands of years. Most women require a dominant male in their lives to reduce moodiness and psychological problems. Unfortunately their are not enough High testosterone white guys in America today. Testosterone levels have dropped significantly since the 1970s and this has resulted in far too many females lacking a suitable husband or boyfriend. Thus we have seen a big rise in crazy white females.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Travis

    "The solution requires White males to lead us out of this."

    Agreed.

    "Unfortunately their [sic] are not enough High testosterone white guys in America.

    Agreed. There's just me and that other guy.

    , @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @Travis

    Yes, we have been raising girls incorrectly for years, telling them to focus on there careers and getting an education instead of finding a husband. The result is millions of unhappy women who need to take psych drugs to get thru their miserable lives. A good career is nice to have, but much less important for happiness than having a husband and children.

    , @74v56ruthiyj
    @Travis

    The traditional fix for this is polygamy.

  66. @AnotherDad
    @Gunnar von Cowtown



    However, Western society in the current year has no system in place to curb the worst impulses of female behavior. Rather, systems like social media encourage women toward Cluster B disorders. One could argue that reality television actually rewarded women for displays of BPD and narcissism.
     
    Another great comment, here--thanks Cowtown--and a paragraph getting right to the heart of it.

    ~~

    Civilization--i.e. any civilized society prior to 1960--used to be run by men and have a clear understanding that women were less logical, more emotional, their concerns and understanding very personal. (Of course, men screwed up plenty--see 1914--but at least there was an element of reason/responsibility involved.)

    Feminism changed--damaged--this understanding. Everyone had to pretend that women were equally rational and informed thinkers and their thoughts "must be taken seriously". Now with social media we have the ravings and virtue signaling of millions of young women--the least rational, least thoughtful, least informed people on the planet--which apparently can not be dismissed.

    We have these bogus lines like "twitter erupts" as if there's some sort of consensus against this or that. But the consensus--if it exists at all--is the consensus of a bunch of girls and young women. Absolutely worthless in terms of anything resembling "rational thought".

    We need leaders who simply state truths and dismiss the ensuing meltdown of the BPDariat. ("I'm interested in truth and what benefits normal families and maintaining civilization" would be a simple explanation.) I.e. grow a pair.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “getting right to the heart of it”

    Recently I was tasked by my employer, Ben Cooper Inc., to design a mask of the late middle age white male who fervently promoted market triumphalism which mutated into to the dominant corporatism that plagues our lives today. Can you send me a picture of your face?

  67. @milthoslayer
    For a concrete example of the damage a young woman with a personality disorder can do, look no further than Princess Di. By many accounts, she suffered from BPD (read about her relationship with princes' nanny) and almost brought down the British monarchy.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Whatever she suffered from, it’s a matter of public record that:

    1. Wm. invited two of his former nannies to his wedding in 2011. One was a woman his mother had dismissed, one a woman hired by Charles after the separation that his mother sliced up in the media.

    2. She had at least three affairs, one of them with someone wholly inappropriate.

    3. Over a 21 year span of time, she had periods of estrangement from her mother, her stepmother, one of her sisters, said sister’s husband, and, in her last year, her brother. This is attested to by correspondence which has been made public.

    4. She was assigned around the time of her marriage one of the Queen’s ladies-in-waiting to train her for public appearances; she wouldn’t co-operate.

    5. She never sat for any A-level examinations and failed all of her O-levels. She’s the only one among the four Spencer siblings who did anything like this. (IIRC, her sons passed their O-levels).

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Art Deco


    She never sat for any A-level examinations and failed all of her O-levels. She’s the only one among the four Spencer siblings who did anything like this. (IIRC, her sons passed their O-levels).
     
    'O' Levels (=Ordinary Level) are or were subject exams taken at the age of 15 or 16 in England and Wales, being pretty basic. They were graded from 1 to 8 with grade 8 being called an F (Fail). So if you got grades 1-7, you passed.

    'A' Levels (=Advanced Level) is normally taken at the age of 17 or 18 and is required for university entry.

    To take four or five subjects at 'O' Level and get a grade F on all of them is a remarkable achievement, because to take those subjects you would have had to be taught the subject for two years. I can only imagine that she was dyslexic and could barely read.
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Art Deco

    Wow. Princess Di and musical theater. The backstory I provided you -- Roddy McDowall's court photographer -- is really bearing fruit.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @J.Ross
    @Art Deco

    Well there ya go, she deserved death.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  68. @Travis
    Wokeness is just taking Progressive ideology to its logical progression. The majority of Americans actually support most of the progressive agenda. The progressive/Woke ideology is anti-white and anti-Christian. Today Christian Whites are a minority in America. Straight White males are just 25% of the US population, thus ~60% of Americans benefit from cancel culture. It will help them get into the top colleges, advance their careers and blacklist Straight Whites.

    While it is true that many progressives have psychological problems and 30% of women are taking psychotropic medications the main reason for the great awakening was due to White Christians becoming a minority in America 10 years ago. More Americans benefit from this ideology than are directly harmed by it. Young Americans are taught that they can gain racial or sexual Pokémon status points which help them advance their careers and status. Among our University students today they learn how to take advantage of their Pokémon identity points and how to gain Pokémon status points. 50% of College students are White , yet only 20% are Straight White males and 25% of white females students identify as Non-Binary or bisexual or trannsexual....

    The flight from white is real and shows no sign of ending. The solution requires White males to lead us out of this. The reason so many White females are now on psych drugs is because they cannot find suitable boyfriends and husbands. This is the same reason so many white females no longer identify as heterosexual. Since they cannot find men to satisfy them. Females become hysterical when they lack a dominant male partner. This has been known for thousands of years. Most women require a dominant male in their lives to reduce moodiness and psychological problems. Unfortunately their are not enough High testosterone white guys in America today. Testosterone levels have dropped significantly since the 1970s and this has resulted in far too many females lacking a suitable husband or boyfriend. Thus we have seen a big rise in crazy white females.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @74v56ruthiyj

    “The solution requires White males to lead us out of this.”

    Agreed.

    “Unfortunately their [sic] are not enough High testosterone white guys in America.

    Agreed. There’s just me and that other guy.

  69. @Anon
    The idea that we're living in the warped vision controlled by some psychotic teenager comes straight out of Philip K Dick stuff. Read Ubik, for example. As usual, Dick predicted a lot, and presents a vision of how we live now.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Hadn’t thought of that. Jory’s behind it all.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Art Deco

    Haven't got any quarters to check. It's all cashless. Coincidence?

    But! I have just learned there is a HAARP conspiracy theory lady in the neighborhood. I actually had to tell here that radio at human-reachable emission power is a bad way to perform any effective weather control whatsoever. Didn't seem convinced. Maybe a sign.

    Now I will pick up totall fresh UR conpiracy theories (totally not heard when H1N1 was a thing) about we will all be population-controlled with the vaxx against a virus that was created in the lab but where nobody got the idea to just use that virus for population-control directly as if someone had written a bad Hollywood sequel.

    Would have beem far simpler, known to work and you wouldn't have to wheel out Le Fauci for 2 years straight and counting.

  70. @Almost Missouri


    Like anorexia in the past, trans is attractive to borderlines.
     

     
    https://twitter.com/JRossotti/status/1468956583509954569

    Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard

    Are there any decent statistics on prevalence of anorexia, bulimia, cutting, and trans- over time by the American Psychiatric Association or similar?

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    "Are there any decent statistics on prevalence of anorexia, bulimia, cutting, and trans- over time by the American Psychiatric Association or similar?"

    There aren't any decent stats anymore on anything!

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    If the APA did anything useful there would be.

  71. Betrays something about their character”; “belies” means the exact opposite.

    “Belie” as a malapropism is “in” this year, among the kind of people who learn basic vocabulary in middle age.

    • Replies: @Athenian Gentleman
    @Wilbur Hassenfus



    “Betrays something about their character”; “belies” means the exact opposite.

     

    “Belie” as a malapropism is “in” this year, among the kind of people who learn basic vocabulary in middle age.
     
    Definition #5, in the first entry for betray found at Dictionary dot com, would indeed seem to fit perfectly:

    to reveal unconsciously (something one would preferably conceal): Her nervousness betrays her insecurity.
     
    Doesn't all this, though, beg the question[1]...

    I mean, if language was[2] my forte[3]....

    It would seem that most people, though, could care less[4]. At least, for all intensive purposes[5].

    [1] Gentlemen*, I'm afraid the present situation has become even more degenerate and inverted than I had realized.
    (*I use the term broadly.)

    It is with great regret and dismay that I call your attention to the following.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/beg-the-question

    Begging the question means "to elicit a specific question as a reaction or response," and can often be replaced with "a question that begs to be answered." However, a lesser used and more formal definition is "to ignore a question under the assumption it has already been answered." The phrase itself comes from a translation of an Aristotelian phrase rendered as "beg the question" but meaning "assume the conclusion."
     
    Appalling.

    Perhaps all is not lost, though. Dictionary dot com, at least as of this posting, offers an eminently gratifying antidote to Merriam-Webster's folly.
    beg the question:

    To assume what has still to be proved: “To say that we should help the region's democratic movement begs the question of whether it really is democratic.”
     
    A little further-down [6] on the page, one finds a slightly longer entry that provides some elucidating elaboration. Then note, just below the box containing the primary text, the latest copyright date listed: 2002. Compare to the date of the corresponding M-W entry, which would appear to be no earlier than 2015 (the most recent date given for any of the numerous quotations featured on the page). One might, perhaps, contend that the M-W entry merely reflects the de facto reality at the time it was written. Surely, however, in the quoted entry in-question, the wording chosen by M-W went beyond such mere description. They stated categorically in the first sentence that the word "means" something that it, properly, does not mean. And then went-on to dismissively characterize the proper meaning as merely, "a lesser used and more formal definition". Or is it I, perhaps, who has missed something here?

    [2] Properly were. Was, though, presumably could be correct, in a context where I had meant, for example, If, while still in school, I had applied myself with more dilligence to the study of proper language usage.

    [3] Properly pronounced fort; the e is silent. Good luck finding anyone today, however, who does not pronounce forte as for-tay.* And who, should you attempt to correct his error, will not stubbornly insist that he is correct and you are the one in error.
    (And not just within the community (kah-myun-ih-tay), if you know what I mean...)

    [4] Properly couldn't care less. Could care less has the opposite of the intended meaning.

    [5] The correct expression is for all intents and purposes.

    [6] Is it properly further? Or farther? This is one of the many areas, concerning which, I must confess to having a rather shameful ignorance.

    Replies: @HammerJack

  72. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    Homosexuality was considered a disorder until they decided it wasn’t. What’s next, a negative gut reaction to trannyism will be considered a disorder? Not being enthralled by gayness has already produced a psyche type slur in ‘homophobia’, thrown about constantly. Perhaps they’ll come up with some meds for these disorders. Trying to get into the mind of weird people is hard for the non-weird.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @anonymous

    Reminder that homosexual activists freely admit on NPR that they raided, gaslit, manipulated and successfully deceived the committee that writes the DSM to accept homosexuality, to include arranging a hilariously THEATRICAL mournful monologue from a uniformed Air Force kid stumbling in the bar where the psychs were.

  73. @Bardon Kaldian
    I wouldn't rely too much on the Web diagnoses.

    A friend of mine has BPD, and doesn't exhibit most of these "canonical" symptoms. Anyway, there are too many woke people, so it is statistically impossible they're all mentally ill, and with the most serious & incurable PD.

    They're just hypocritical & cowardly, add a few points for stupidity, that's all....

    And one should admit to oneself that most people remain, until they kick the bucket, emotionally immature & psychologically unstable, not possessing largeness of mind & the capability for critical thinking.

    That's how the world goes ...

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    If you’re astute, you’ll notice that psychosis is a universal human trait. Almost everyone falls into it on some topics or in some situations.

    What is different is that politics, more than ever before, now serves as a the main arena for its popular manifestation.

    And what’s really terrible is that much of contemporary political ideology serves to encourage psychotic tendencies among the believers, either by proxy or directly.

    But you’re right about BPD. Besides a lot of women with BPD are really more narcissistic and a lot of men are diagnosed wrongly in the opposite direction. Also, narcissists tend to see borderlines everywhere and vice versa, and a lot of so-called autism on the internet is actually narcissism too.

    Not necessarily as a full-blown personality disorder, which is rare, but as a strong set of traits.

    Finally, narcissism involves no less psychosis than BPD, it is just that narcissists are better at distorting their image to persuade themselves of its integrity.

    • Agree: Gamecock
  74. @Almost Missouri
    @anonymous

    Interesting for the backgrounder on French politics, but aren't those "broad shoulders" just the cut of that jacket? And those hips look feminine. Pelvic development is sexually dimorphic and hard to fake.

    As other's have been complaining ("they're trying to distract us with tranny stuff"), the political background seems more significant than Brigette's gender status.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    This is totally stupid. There’s a subset of crazies on the Internet who are dedicated to outing supposed transgenders. They are one step over from Pizzagate and Qanon.

    Mr. and Mrs. Macron are bad enough as they really are: the skinny, ultra-fashionable wizened GILF and her puppy dog son husband without exaggerating.

    Her looks are common among a certain type of wealthy Frenchwoman.

    • Replies: @mc23
    @Paperback Writer

    Things are going down hill. Twenty years ago she just would have been from Atlantis.

  75. @El Dato
    @anon


    personality disorders don’t exist
     
    What you gonna believe, me or your screaming girlfriend?

    Immediately wrecking your post like that, man!

    It is actually amazing that everyone is not constantly mad as a hatter. Rational planning and decisions are far and few between and we don't even know how brains do it.

    https://i.postimg.cc/gkG44zjB/asuka-shoryu-langley-hates-herself-and-wants-to-die.gif

    > YouTube & social meedja
    > Video games
    > Anime, Mangu and Hollywood productions

    They are crack cocaine.

    Basically, kids produce disorders at the same pace as we produce conspiracy theories.

    Replies: @Ray P

    The Internet is a particle accelerator – every time one turns it on and twiddles the nobs hundreds of new kinds of sexual identities appear like sub-atomic particles. It will take a Murray Gell-Mann of sexual neurosis to sort it out into Quark, Strangeness and Charm.

    • LOL: El Dato
  76. @AndrewR
    @anon

    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.

    But that doesn't mean that the woke aren't a threat or that they can be ignored while we focus on billionaires.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave, @SunBakedSuburb, @Shetland

    This sounds plausible. Would you care to explain a bit more about how this works to benefit this billionaire class? I ask this sincerely as someone who one might refer to as a “normie.”

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Shetland

    People fighting over race, sex, etc aren't fighting about healthcare, wages, etc

  77. @syonredux
    Matthew Yglesias on what's good for the Jews....Or, at least what's best for Jews like him:

    Beyond Trump being a total s[***]head, there are some real affinities between antisemitic nationalist thought and right-wing zionist thought and real tensions between right-wing zionist thought and those of us enjoying the cosmopolitan good life here in the diaspora.

    https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1471923252691939329

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Expletive Deleted

    those of us enjoying the cosmopolitan good life here in the diaspora

    The diaspora. Now, would that usually be called “Other People’s Countries”, Matty?

  78. @James N. Kennett
    @anon


    1. personality disorders don’t exist. with the exception of psychopathy. but it’s not a disorder. it’s just a pseudoscientific word for “evil”.
     
    That's what people think until they actually meet someone with a personality disorder - especially BPD. BPD includes a tendency to misconstrue every social interaction. It is a very sad condition for those who have it, and it occasionally becomes evil if for example the person tries to kill someone.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @Ray P

    “BPD includes a tendency to misconstrue every social interaction. It is a very sad condition for those who have it, and it occasionally becomes evil if for example the person tries to kill someone. ”

    black personality disorder? I hear ya, brother!

  79. @Art Deco
    @milthoslayer

    Whatever she suffered from, it's a matter of public record that:

    1. Wm. invited two of his former nannies to his wedding in 2011. One was a woman his mother had dismissed, one a woman hired by Charles after the separation that his mother sliced up in the media.

    2. She had at least three affairs, one of them with someone wholly inappropriate.

    3. Over a 21 year span of time, she had periods of estrangement from her mother, her stepmother, one of her sisters, said sister's husband, and, in her last year, her brother. This is attested to by correspondence which has been made public.

    4. She was assigned around the time of her marriage one of the Queen's ladies-in-waiting to train her for public appearances; she wouldn't co-operate.

    5. She never sat for any A-level examinations and failed all of her O-levels. She's the only one among the four Spencer siblings who did anything like this. (IIRC, her sons passed their O-levels).

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @SunBakedSuburb, @J.Ross

    She never sat for any A-level examinations and failed all of her O-levels. She’s the only one among the four Spencer siblings who did anything like this. (IIRC, her sons passed their O-levels).

    ‘O’ Levels (=Ordinary Level) are or were subject exams taken at the age of 15 or 16 in England and Wales, being pretty basic. They were graded from 1 to 8 with grade 8 being called an F (Fail). So if you got grades 1-7, you passed.

    ‘A’ Levels (=Advanced Level) is normally taken at the age of 17 or 18 and is required for university entry.

    To take four or five subjects at ‘O’ Level and get a grade F on all of them is a remarkable achievement, because to take those subjects you would have had to be taught the subject for two years. I can only imagine that she was dyslexic and could barely read.

  80. @Travis
    Wokeness is just taking Progressive ideology to its logical progression. The majority of Americans actually support most of the progressive agenda. The progressive/Woke ideology is anti-white and anti-Christian. Today Christian Whites are a minority in America. Straight White males are just 25% of the US population, thus ~60% of Americans benefit from cancel culture. It will help them get into the top colleges, advance their careers and blacklist Straight Whites.

    While it is true that many progressives have psychological problems and 30% of women are taking psychotropic medications the main reason for the great awakening was due to White Christians becoming a minority in America 10 years ago. More Americans benefit from this ideology than are directly harmed by it. Young Americans are taught that they can gain racial or sexual Pokémon status points which help them advance their careers and status. Among our University students today they learn how to take advantage of their Pokémon identity points and how to gain Pokémon status points. 50% of College students are White , yet only 20% are Straight White males and 25% of white females students identify as Non-Binary or bisexual or trannsexual....

    The flight from white is real and shows no sign of ending. The solution requires White males to lead us out of this. The reason so many White females are now on psych drugs is because they cannot find suitable boyfriends and husbands. This is the same reason so many white females no longer identify as heterosexual. Since they cannot find men to satisfy them. Females become hysterical when they lack a dominant male partner. This has been known for thousands of years. Most women require a dominant male in their lives to reduce moodiness and psychological problems. Unfortunately their are not enough High testosterone white guys in America today. Testosterone levels have dropped significantly since the 1970s and this has resulted in far too many females lacking a suitable husband or boyfriend. Thus we have seen a big rise in crazy white females.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @74v56ruthiyj

    Yes, we have been raising girls incorrectly for years, telling them to focus on there careers and getting an education instead of finding a husband. The result is millions of unhappy women who need to take psych drugs to get thru their miserable lives. A good career is nice to have, but much less important for happiness than having a husband and children.

    • Agree: Sulu, Athenian Gentleman
  81. @Michelle
    In my hey day, I fit, exactly, the definition of "Borderline Personality Disorder". It only manifested when I was in relationships that were important. When I was head over heels, I would go bat shit crazy! It happened 3 times. I am, the epitome of the crazy ex girlfriend. After menopause, I became totally "Chill". No more crazy! It was all about the hormones. One of the exes, who has kept in contact with me for over 30 years, often remarks upon my current level headedness and calm demeanor.

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted, @Dave from Oz

    I’m your nosey neighbour, and would like your opinion on the possible effects of mass hormonal contraception on as-yet immature (physically) girls and women.

    Surely monkeying around with the almost chrysalis-like chaos of the teenage hormonal system, for years, might be expected to have unacceptable outcomes in some cases at least?

    • Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @Expletive Deleted

    Good point. When women take birth control pills it alters the type of men they are sexually attracted to. synthetic hormones alters their their choice in mates and they are less likely to choose masculine men when on the pill. This could be one reason men born after 1970 have lower levels of testosterone.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/birth-control-pills-affect-womens-taste/

  82. The real problem is that of the “allies” who support and encourage these psychos. That and the emptying of the psycho wards beginning circa 1959, according to Pat Moynihan.

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2013/11/daniel-patrick-moynihan-defining.html

    • Agree: Gamecock
  83. @James N. Kennett
    @anon


    1. personality disorders don’t exist. with the exception of psychopathy. but it’s not a disorder. it’s just a pseudoscientific word for “evil”.
     
    That's what people think until they actually meet someone with a personality disorder - especially BPD. BPD includes a tendency to misconstrue every social interaction. It is a very sad condition for those who have it, and it occasionally becomes evil if for example the person tries to kill someone.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @Ray P

    As a Borderline, one believes that other people have it in for one, or are reacting badly to one, and they are because of one’s Borderline behaviour. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. Even therapists find it difficult to suppress their dislike of Borderline personalities.

  84. @PhysicistDave
    @AndrewR

    AndrewR wrote:


    We all know that wokeness is largely top-down distraction prompted by the billionaires.
     
    We need to distinguish between SWPL types pretending to care about poor Blacks (if they really cared, they would try to deal with Black-on-Black crime), versus kids who are not happy with the sex they were born into.

    The latter is very sad and very serious: my daughter in college has run into this with a number of friends or former friends.

    When Sailer and I were kids, and even more when our parents were kids, girls were encouraged to think that that they would grow up to be wives and mothers and that this would be fun. Boys were taught that they would lead and provide for a family, and that this would be hard work, but that it would be rewarding. Sailer and I were both Scouts, and a lot of us took seriously that "A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful..."

    Girls were taught that it was their job to say "No" (until they got married), and boys were taught they had to expect that and accept it.

    Were sexual roles before 1970 too rigid and confining? Yeah, probably.

    But they provided a basic framework for kids' self-image and planning for their adult lives, especially for kids who were insecure and lacking in judgment.

    A lot of the kids nowadays who are confused about their sex are not just virtue signaling or being used by the oligarchs. From what I hear from my daughter, this is a real tragedy.

    We adults have failed, very dramatically, to pass on to the younger generation basic information about the nature of the human species.

    And a lot of young people are suffering now -- and will end up suffering for their entire lives -- as a result.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Rooster12, @mc23, @James N. Kennett, @nebulafox, @Thea, @JR Ewing, @AnotherDad, @Technite78, @Expletive Deleted

    Oh man you just flashbacked me. Now I have a knot in my stomach.
    Having to go and speak to The Dad before you got to take Pwincess out, even for a burger in broad daylight.
    Where, when, who else, and back by this time or …
    God help you if you’re not where you said you’d be, son.
    I’d have to speak to your dad. Or her crazy uncles.

    • LOL: PhysicistDave
  85. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @AnotherDad

    One time years ago I had this kind of difficult demanding job which took up a lot of my time, but I also had this incredibly sexy live-in girlfriend who made all my male friends jealous because she was both very cute and she also liked to sort of constantly drape herself all over me in public in alluring fashions, I guess to kind of assert ownership or something. She used to say, "Because it brings you honor."

    I came home from work one day and asked her, "well, what did you do all day?" And she said in this deliberately flippant tone, "well, ya know, I just sat around yearning for you." I took a beat, and then said, "is that what you really did?" and then she said in her honest tone of voice, "actually, yes."

    Replies: @Ray P

    Are you Tony Montana?

  86. “Now I’ve been seeing increasing numbers of them taking it literally. As in, they are biologically male or female.”

    A woman I knew years ago was given to periodic fits of hysteria in which she would make untrue and irrational accusations. This is not so uncommon but there was an aspect of it which I found puzzling: when she was her rational self again she continued to believe her nonsense for ever after. For instance, on one occasion after getting involved with a new man, she claimed that her old boyfriend had invaded her home and ripped up photographs of the two of them together. In fact it was plainly her doing – the man had been in a different town at the time. But over a year later, she still insisted that her fabrication was true and, as it appeared to me, she was in a state of genuine delusion about it.

  87. @Paperback Writer
    @Almost Missouri

    This is totally stupid. There's a subset of crazies on the Internet who are dedicated to outing supposed transgenders. They are one step over from Pizzagate and Qanon.

    Mr. and Mrs. Macron are bad enough as they really are: the skinny, ultra-fashionable wizened GILF and her puppy dog son husband without exaggerating.

    Her looks are common among a certain type of wealthy Frenchwoman.

    Replies: @mc23

    Things are going down hill. Twenty years ago she just would have been from Atlantis.

  88. @Art Deco
    @milthoslayer

    Whatever she suffered from, it's a matter of public record that:

    1. Wm. invited two of his former nannies to his wedding in 2011. One was a woman his mother had dismissed, one a woman hired by Charles after the separation that his mother sliced up in the media.

    2. She had at least three affairs, one of them with someone wholly inappropriate.

    3. Over a 21 year span of time, she had periods of estrangement from her mother, her stepmother, one of her sisters, said sister's husband, and, in her last year, her brother. This is attested to by correspondence which has been made public.

    4. She was assigned around the time of her marriage one of the Queen's ladies-in-waiting to train her for public appearances; she wouldn't co-operate.

    5. She never sat for any A-level examinations and failed all of her O-levels. She's the only one among the four Spencer siblings who did anything like this. (IIRC, her sons passed their O-levels).

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @SunBakedSuburb, @J.Ross

    Wow. Princess Di and musical theater. The backstory I provided you — Roddy McDowall’s court photographer — is really bearing fruit.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Sorry, no. Never handled anything but a Brownie, an Instamatic, and one of those Polaroids James Garner used to hawk. And not those in 40 years.

  89. People that are gay are basically nut jobs. The least crazy are the ones that simply come out and declare themselves gay but don’t radically alter their appearance. The ones that are the real nuts are the trannies. That are as crazy as shit house rats. 50 or 60 years ago the medical field declared them all mentally ill. In the decades since the gays have gained enough political power to have themselves taken off the crazy list as a step towards legitimacy. But that didn’t change a thing. They are still all mental.

    Sulu

    • Agree: acementhead
    • Replies: @Ray P
    @Sulu

    George Takei, is that you? Thanks for the honesty.

    Replies: @Sulu

  90. @anon
    1. personality disorders don't exist. with the exception of psychopathy. but it's not a disorder. it's just a pseudoscientific word for "evil".

    2. commenter altai and ateve appear to believe that professional wrestling is real.

    3. woke-ism is just something to distract the woke and the anti-woke from thinking about actual political questions. because if they did a lot of billionaires' heads would be on sticks.

    4. steve's sports entertainment journalism proves the addage: "the greatest prize in journalism isn't the pulitzer. it's a bullet in the head from the CIA or mossad.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @El Dato, @James N. Kennett, @Mario Partisan

    4. steve’s sports entertainment journalism proves the addage: “the greatest prize in journalism isn’t the pulitzer. it’s a bullet in the head from the CIA or mossad.

    I’ve heard of that prize, I think it’s called the Bullitzer. Gary Webb won it, twice!

  91. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Almost Missouri

    Are there any decent statistics on prevalence of anorexia, bulimia, cutting, and trans- over time by the American Psychiatric Association or similar?

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @Almost Missouri

    “Are there any decent statistics on prevalence of anorexia, bulimia, cutting, and trans- over time by the American Psychiatric Association or similar?”

    There aren’t any decent stats anymore on anything!

  92. Teenaged boys have the highest rate of suicide of any demographic. At least girls, because of both feminism and the traditional empathy anc concern that people have for female wants and needs, are allowed to express themselves emotionally and vent their frustrations.

    But when it comes to young men, *nobody* cares about them. Traditionalists don’t care about them because the attitude of traditionalists when it comes to young men is that they should “man up” and just take whatever life throws at them. This comes from the traditionalist view that males are the “disposable” biological gender and that, since their lives are not very valuable, their concerns and needs don’t matter and they should fend for themselves because that is what a “real” man does. Something along the lines of:

    “You were born a male. The role of a male is to take whatever life throws at him and face it without whinning. Man up!”

    Likewise, the liberal “Woke” left *also* doesn’t care about young men, because the official ideology of the Left is that masculinity is toxic and that young men don’t get to complain because they are already privileged because they are members of the Patriarchy.

    Young men were always the bottom of the barrel of Humanity. Traditionally, the “use” of young men was to be cannon fodder at war. If you are born a male, you *better* achieve a high status fast, because that is the only way that your life will have any worth. A young woman has supreme unearned value just because of her womb, but a young man’s value is almost close to zero.

    But at least in traditionalist societies, young man were given a very vague sense of value for doing “manly” things. That didn’t add much value to their lives, but at least they were allowed to feel some pride if they got a promotion at work, or won a big ball game, or whatever. Likewise, young men were given more freedom than young women. They weren’t given this higher freedom because parents liked them more, but simply because parents valued their lives much less than that of their daughters. But at least there was a small premium for the young man, in that he was allowed to go out on a Friday night, while his sister couldn’t. But now the young women have all the traditional perks of femininity, and all the freedoms that were before reserved for young men. Now giving young men these traditional “consolation prizes” for having a lower biological value is “enforcing the Patriarchy” and “toxic masculinity” so it is not allowed and young women get to enjoy these few privileges that young men had while still keeping all the tradiotional perks of femininity.

    We are now faced with a situtation where young women have the few perks that used to be reserved for young men as a consolation prize for having a lower biological value and less valuable lives than young women, while young women keep all the traditional and immense privileges of femininity, like people(both male and female) giving far more importance to their wants and needs, getting always the benefit of the doubt, expecting males to protact you even at the cosr of their lives, etc.

    Because human beings are hard-wired to be nice and empathetic to the needs and wants of females, so women will never lose the traditional privileges they have. But young men have lost the few perks they used to have *and* people still put on them all the burden of masculinity that traditional society has. Women can now do all the things that used to be reserved for young men, but young men continue to have the low status that comes with their low biological value, and all the endless obligations and tough-treatment from people that come with it.

    Basically, young men continue to be told to “man up” and “don’t whine, be a man!” of 1960, but now instead of them being told their behavior is jnatural and being rewarded for being good at things males enjoy, like sports and games, they are told that they are “toxic” and “Patriarchal”.

    Young men now have the worst of both Worlds: they have all the burdens of “traditional” pre-1960 masculinity obligations and treatment from other people, and they are also at the bottom of the barrel of the new “woke” liberal-led Society, blamed for the oppression of women and their behavior regarded as toxic.

    In a nutshell: all the ogligations of traditional maculinity, and you don’t get to complain either to traditionalists or to the liberals, because both camps think you have no valid grievances(for every different reasons, with the traditionalists believing that young men shouldn’t complain because young men should be tough and not whine, and the liberals becausse young men are already privileged just for being male and are oppressors and not oppressed.).

    So young men can’t win. They are discarded and their suffering ignored by both traditionalists as well as liberals.

    This is why so many young men sublimate their rage in violent video games, and many completely shut themselves out of Society. The young men that go in gun rampages and then kill themselves are a tiny minority. But many young men face a Society that responds to their pain be telling them to “man up!”, while at the same time calling them Patriarchal oppressors of women and being “toxic” for enjoying what they enjoy

    How can anyone tolerate this? How can anyone tolerate living in a World that is intensely hostile to you 24/7 and where *no one* cares about your suffering, part of them because they believe that your role as a young male is to just take it, and the other part think you have no valid grievances because you are already privileged as a male member of the “Patriarchy”, and that all you deserve is scoulding rather than sympathy?

    You don’t know true bitterness until you meet men under age 30. I suggest the Boomer men of Unz to actually get to meet and talk to men under 30 for you to truly understand the darkness of their rage.

    If there is one thing that history shows incontrovertibly is that, when Society doesn’t care about young men, young men don’t care about Society. What are you going to do when young men start murdering police officers and then come for you? Who is going to protect you then? If you think that having an arsenal of guns at home will protect you, you are sadly mistaken. Young men are far, far more vicious and energetic than some fat 60 year-old Boomer. Just look at Afghanistan, where a bunch of young men with AK-47s kicked the ass of the World’s most powerful military. Look at the picture of those Afghanis warriors, and most of them are clearly in their twenties. In troops of chimpanzees, the young bucks will some times gang up on the old farts and trample and dismember them alive for hogging all the young females for themselves, and for using them as cannon fodder to take the territory and females of rival groups.

    There is also an element of hatred for females in yourng men, that comes from ther upbringing as well as from social attitudes. They remember how much nicer their traditionalist parents were to their sisters, compared to the harsh treatment they received just fdor being male. And, at the same time, they went to schools ruled by liberals that blamed them for being “toxic” and how their gend3er is cancer, etc.

    I have younger cousins, and i can tell you that young men are in a state of furor like never before or since. And their rage is directed at everybody, because everybody treats them like crap. They hate the harshness that traditionalists treat them, and they equally hate the “Woke” liberals that scould them for just being male. Things are about to blow up.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Zero Philosopher

    >You don’t know true bitterness until you meet men under age 30. I suggest the Boomer men of Unz to actually get to meet and talk to men under 30 for you to truly understand the darkness of their rage.

    *Raises hand*

    Yeah. I get that anger. A lot of "trad" types can come off as completely disconnected from reality. And of course, not a few of them actually are. But really, we are here to sacrifice ourselves. That's our purpose, our raison d'etre. Have you noticed how miserable men tend to be if they try-often not knowing any better-to go about their problems like women? No. We don't get unhappy because of that. We get unhappy because we aren't able to do that, whether because there's nothing worth doing that for, or because it is demanded under the most obnoxious terms possible, without that key factor-*respect*-that gets men to work, sacrifice, and die without complaint. Add in blatant contempt and an utter refusal to see you as anything other than something that exists for the maximal convenience-not protection, not provision, not actual need, but convenience, and believe me, we can detect the difference-of others, and... well, you get guys tuning out.

    I can't pretend to offer a solution on a society wide scale... but I can offer one on an individual scale, if anyone ever comes across this. Here is a little secret: women can grow quickly attracted to a guy who has a vision and wants to command. She'll follow your beliefs, not the other way around, if done properly. She'll follow you. You'd be surprised. That's the key to hammering out your own little oasis in a desert. Enough of us do it, who knows?

    Replies: @Zero Philosopher

    , @Stebbing Heuer
    @Zero Philosopher

    The positive response to Jordan Peterson and his message from young men may be a response to this. A feeling of, 'Finally, someone understands me.'

    The hostility of women and weak men to Peterson may also be part of this: it is a problem for them, that someone would receive an enthusiastic reaction from young men.

    , @Brutusale
    @Zero Philosopher


    Teenaged boys have the highest rate of suicide of any demographic. At least girls, because of both feminism and the traditional empathy anc concern that people have for female wants and needs, are allowed to express themselves emotionally and vent their frustrations.
     
    From the CDC:

    Youth and Young Adults

    Youth and young adults ages 10–24 account for 14% of all suicides. The suicide rate for this age group (10.2 per 100,000) was lower than other age groups.3 However, suicide is the second leading cause of death for young people, accounting for 6,488 deaths.3

    Some groups of young people (ages 10-24 years) most at-risk for suicide include non-Hispanic AI/AN, with a suicide rate of 28.2 per 100,000. 3 Sexual minority youth are also at increased risk (see below).

    Youth and young adults aged 10-24 have lower suicide rates, but they have higher rates of emergency department (ED) visits for self-harm (342.5 per 100,000) compared to people ages 25 years and older (121.9 per 100,000).3

    This was an estimated 217,447 ED visits for self-harm among this younger age group.3 Girls and young women aged 10-24 are at particularly high risk, with their ED visit rate (487.9 per 100,000) being twice the rate of ED visits among boys and young men (203.3 per 100,000).
    Further, the rate of ED visits among girls in 2019 was double compared to 2001 (244.3 per 100,000). 3
    In 2019, 9% of high school students reported attempting suicide during the previous 12 months.4 This increased from 6.3% in 2009. Suicide attempts were reported most frequently among girls compared to boys (11% vs. 6.6%) and among non-Hispanic black students (11.8%).4

    TL/DR version:
    Ages 10-24 have the lowest suicide rate but higher rates of self-harm.
    ED visits for self-harm by 10-24 girls almost twice that of boys.
  93. yeah but to put it Peep Show terms, don’t you want a girl you totally knew was, in a surprise to no one, going to choke you?

  94. @Art Deco
    @milthoslayer

    Whatever she suffered from, it's a matter of public record that:

    1. Wm. invited two of his former nannies to his wedding in 2011. One was a woman his mother had dismissed, one a woman hired by Charles after the separation that his mother sliced up in the media.

    2. She had at least three affairs, one of them with someone wholly inappropriate.

    3. Over a 21 year span of time, she had periods of estrangement from her mother, her stepmother, one of her sisters, said sister's husband, and, in her last year, her brother. This is attested to by correspondence which has been made public.

    4. She was assigned around the time of her marriage one of the Queen's ladies-in-waiting to train her for public appearances; she wouldn't co-operate.

    5. She never sat for any A-level examinations and failed all of her O-levels. She's the only one among the four Spencer siblings who did anything like this. (IIRC, her sons passed their O-levels).

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @SunBakedSuburb, @J.Ross

    Well there ya go, she deserved death.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @J.Ross

    No, she deserved to be isolated like a bacillus, because she was trouble. And that's what her brother eventually did.

  95. @anonymous
    Homosexuality was considered a disorder until they decided it wasn't. What's next, a negative gut reaction to trannyism will be considered a disorder? Not being enthralled by gayness has already produced a psyche type slur in 'homophobia', thrown about constantly. Perhaps they'll come up with some meds for these disorders. Trying to get into the mind of weird people is hard for the non-weird.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Reminder that homosexual activists freely admit on NPR that they raided, gaslit, manipulated and successfully deceived the committee that writes the DSM to accept homosexuality, to include arranging a hilariously THEATRICAL mournful monologue from a uniformed Air Force kid stumbling in the bar where the psychs were.

  96. @Expletive Deleted
    @Michelle

    I'm your nosey neighbour, and would like your opinion on the possible effects of mass hormonal contraception on as-yet immature (physically) girls and women.

    Surely monkeying around with the almost chrysalis-like chaos of the teenage hormonal system, for years, might be expected to have unacceptable outcomes in some cases at least?

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    Good point. When women take birth control pills it alters the type of men they are sexually attracted to. synthetic hormones alters their their choice in mates and they are less likely to choose masculine men when on the pill. This could be one reason men born after 1970 have lower levels of testosterone.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/birth-control-pills-affect-womens-taste/

  97. One marker for mental illness not yet mentioned in this thread is “Autogynephilia.”
    https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/autogynephilia

    This is where the gay man (ok, trans man) imagines himself as a beautiful woman and then 1) wants the rest of the world to play along and treat him as if he is a beautiful woman; and 2) gets horribly histrionic, narcissistic, antisocial, borderline and acting out if this doesn’t happen, so the rest of us in the world get to enjoy a Cluster B acting out.

    If anyone remembers that LA Times sports reporter, Mike Penner, that left his beautiful wife (also a sports reporter at LAT) to transition, he ‘snapped out of it’ after a few years. He looked in the mirror, and sobbed to a friend that “I’m not pretty!” and he still had a man’s voice. He wound up bribing an IT guy to remove all his previous work, and then blew his brains out in a parking garage. The suicide rate for transsexuals is crazy big, about 10 times the general population; not a mentally healthy subpop.

    • Replies: @Tom F.
    @Tom F.

    ...and let us not forget that Transgender pioneer, Ted Kaczynski. Transferred from Supermax, at age 79, to another prison medical facility in order to put the finishing touches on his transgender transition. Hopefully the Federal government will pay for a shave, facial that is.

    P.S. - while we are on the Unabomber subject, offering gratitude to the Unabomber's brother who turned him in after 15 years of FBI failure, thank you Unabrother for saving innocent lives.

  98. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    And "Frozen Warnings" superior to both, though I haven't a clue what she's on about. Not sure if I envy the people who do claim to know, or feel sorry for them.


    "Friar hermit stumbles over
    The cloudy borderline
    Frozen warnings close to mine
    Close to the frozen borderline
    Frozen warnings close to mine
    Close to the frozen borderline"
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJf8s3t0qCY


    "i think i can pretty much say that _the marble index_ changed my life. digging into the lyrical content was the beginning of a great adventure" says listener Harlan Mackey.

    Well I dug into the lyrical content too, and was left with sore arms and a pile of random words.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    And “Frozen Warnings” superior to both

    ???

    That was terrible.

  99. They are getting out the Gestapo to put us all in concentration camps and you’re whining about this?

    And borderline is when they fight with and manipulate people to get attention. Read Christopher Lasch on the issue.

  100. @advancedatheist

    We’re all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues and so far it’s nearly torn the Western world apart in just a few years.
     
    Teenage boys can certainly experience emotional chaos and make dumb decisions, especially the black ones who do things like shooting at the parties and funerals in their communities. But on average their emotional problems tend not to cause chaos in the larger society as they mature.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @njguy73

    Yes, the vast majority of teenage boys with emotional problems simply immerse themselves in video games, porn, or drugs. So long as they’re not shooting up schools, no one gives a crap about them.

    • Replies: @74v56ruthiyj
    @njguy73

    Why don't young men ride motorcycles anymore? Powerful, fast, loud, dangerous, sexy, what's not to like? Video, porn, and drugs are weak substitutes. Something is very wrong.

    Replies: @njguy73

  101. @Sulu
    People that are gay are basically nut jobs. The least crazy are the ones that simply come out and declare themselves gay but don't radically alter their appearance. The ones that are the real nuts are the trannies. That are as crazy as shit house rats. 50 or 60 years ago the medical field declared them all mentally ill. In the decades since the gays have gained enough political power to have themselves taken off the crazy list as a step towards legitimacy. But that didn't change a thing. They are still all mental.

    Sulu

    Replies: @Ray P

    George Takei, is that you? Thanks for the honesty.

    • Replies: @Sulu
    @Ray P

    George Takei is gay. Sulu isn't.

    Sulu

  102. @Thea
    @PhysicistDave

    Of course a lot of us still teach our kids this. Those who hose to discard the Bible are rudderless. Whether you think is a fantasy or not is irrelevant when it provides a pole star.

    Belief in a higher power takes pressure off the individual. You can say I’m not doing this because God says it’s wrong instead finding your own morality. It is liberating especially for the young.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Those who hose to discard the Bible

  103. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Art Deco

    Wow. Princess Di and musical theater. The backstory I provided you -- Roddy McDowall's court photographer -- is really bearing fruit.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Sorry, no. Never handled anything but a Brownie, an Instamatic, and one of those Polaroids James Garner used to hawk. And not those in 40 years.

  104. @J.Ross
    @Art Deco

    Well there ya go, she deserved death.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    No, she deserved to be isolated like a bacillus, because she was trouble. And that’s what her brother eventually did.

  105. @Zero Philosopher
    Teenaged boys have the highest rate of suicide of any demographic. At least girls, because of both feminism and the traditional empathy anc concern that people have for female wants and needs, are allowed to express themselves emotionally and vent their frustrations.

    But when it comes to young men, *nobody* cares about them. Traditionalists don't care about them because the attitude of traditionalists when it comes to young men is that they should "man up" and just take whatever life throws at them. This comes from the traditionalist view that males are the "disposable" biological gender and that, since their lives are not very valuable, their concerns and needs don't matter and they should fend for themselves because that is what a "real" man does. Something along the lines of:

    "You were born a male. The role of a male is to take whatever life throws at him and face it without whinning. Man up!"

    Likewise, the liberal "Woke" left *also* doesn't care about young men, because the official ideology of the Left is that masculinity is toxic and that young men don't get to complain because they are already privileged because they are members of the Patriarchy.

    Young men were always the bottom of the barrel of Humanity. Traditionally, the "use" of young men was to be cannon fodder at war. If you are born a male, you *better* achieve a high status fast, because that is the only way that your life will have any worth. A young woman has supreme unearned value just because of her womb, but a young man's value is almost close to zero.

    But at least in traditionalist societies, young man were given a very vague sense of value for doing "manly" things. That didn't add much value to their lives, but at least they were allowed to feel some pride if they got a promotion at work, or won a big ball game, or whatever. Likewise, young men were given more freedom than young women. They weren't given this higher freedom because parents liked them more, but simply because parents valued their lives much less than that of their daughters. But at least there was a small premium for the young man, in that he was allowed to go out on a Friday night, while his sister couldn't. But now the young women have all the traditional perks of femininity, and all the freedoms that were before reserved for young men. Now giving young men these traditional "consolation prizes" for having a lower biological value is "enforcing the Patriarchy" and "toxic masculinity" so it is not allowed and young women get to enjoy these few privileges that young men had while still keeping all the tradiotional perks of femininity.

    We are now faced with a situtation where young women have the few perks that used to be reserved for young men as a consolation prize for having a lower biological value and less valuable lives than young women, while young women keep all the traditional and immense privileges of femininity, like people(both male and female) giving far more importance to their wants and needs, getting always the benefit of the doubt, expecting males to protact you even at the cosr of their lives, etc.

    Because human beings are hard-wired to be nice and empathetic to the needs and wants of females, so women will never lose the traditional privileges they have. But young men have lost the few perks they used to have *and* people still put on them all the burden of masculinity that traditional society has. Women can now do all the things that used to be reserved for young men, but young men continue to have the low status that comes with their low biological value, and all the endless obligations and tough-treatment from people that come with it.

    Basically, young men continue to be told to "man up" and "don't whine, be a man!" of 1960, but now instead of them being told their behavior is jnatural and being rewarded for being good at things males enjoy, like sports and games, they are told that they are "toxic" and "Patriarchal".

    Young men now have the worst of both Worlds: they have all the burdens of "traditional" pre-1960 masculinity obligations and treatment from other people, and they are also at the bottom of the barrel of the new "woke" liberal-led Society, blamed for the oppression of women and their behavior regarded as toxic.

    In a nutshell: all the ogligations of traditional maculinity, and you don't get to complain either to traditionalists or to the liberals, because both camps think you have no valid grievances(for every different reasons, with the traditionalists believing that young men shouldn't complain because young men should be tough and not whine, and the liberals becausse young men are already privileged just for being male and are oppressors and not oppressed.).

    So young men can't win. They are discarded and their suffering ignored by both traditionalists as well as liberals.

    This is why so many young men sublimate their rage in violent video games, and many completely shut themselves out of Society. The young men that go in gun rampages and then kill themselves are a tiny minority. But many young men face a Society that responds to their pain be telling them to "man up!", while at the same time calling them Patriarchal oppressors of women and being "toxic" for enjoying what they enjoy

    How can anyone tolerate this? How can anyone tolerate living in a World that is intensely hostile to you 24/7 and where *no one* cares about your suffering, part of them because they believe that your role as a young male is to just take it, and the other part think you have no valid grievances because you are already privileged as a male member of the "Patriarchy", and that all you deserve is scoulding rather than sympathy?

    You don't know true bitterness until you meet men under age 30. I suggest the Boomer men of Unz to actually get to meet and talk to men under 30 for you to truly understand the darkness of their rage.

    If there is one thing that history shows incontrovertibly is that, when Society doesn't care about young men, young men don't care about Society. What are you going to do when young men start murdering police officers and then come for you? Who is going to protect you then? If you think that having an arsenal of guns at home will protect you, you are sadly mistaken. Young men are far, far more vicious and energetic than some fat 60 year-old Boomer. Just look at Afghanistan, where a bunch of young men with AK-47s kicked the ass of the World's most powerful military. Look at the picture of those Afghanis warriors, and most of them are clearly in their twenties. In troops of chimpanzees, the young bucks will some times gang up on the old farts and trample and dismember them alive for hogging all the young females for themselves, and for using them as cannon fodder to take the territory and females of rival groups.

    There is also an element of hatred for females in yourng men, that comes from ther upbringing as well as from social attitudes. They remember how much nicer their traditionalist parents were to their sisters, compared to the harsh treatment they received just fdor being male. And, at the same time, they went to schools ruled by liberals that blamed them for being "toxic" and how their gend3er is cancer, etc.

    I have younger cousins, and i can tell you that young men are in a state of furor like never before or since. And their rage is directed at everybody, because everybody treats them like crap. They hate the harshness that traditionalists treat them, and they equally hate the "Woke" liberals that scould them for just being male. Things are about to blow up.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Stebbing Heuer, @Brutusale

    >You don’t know true bitterness until you meet men under age 30. I suggest the Boomer men of Unz to actually get to meet and talk to men under 30 for you to truly understand the darkness of their rage.

    *Raises hand*

    Yeah. I get that anger. A lot of “trad” types can come off as completely disconnected from reality. And of course, not a few of them actually are. But really, we are here to sacrifice ourselves. That’s our purpose, our raison d’etre. Have you noticed how miserable men tend to be if they try-often not knowing any better-to go about their problems like women? No. We don’t get unhappy because of that. We get unhappy because we aren’t able to do that, whether because there’s nothing worth doing that for, or because it is demanded under the most obnoxious terms possible, without that key factor-*respect*-that gets men to work, sacrifice, and die without complaint. Add in blatant contempt and an utter refusal to see you as anything other than something that exists for the maximal convenience-not protection, not provision, not actual need, but convenience, and believe me, we can detect the difference-of others, and… well, you get guys tuning out.

    I can’t pretend to offer a solution on a society wide scale… but I can offer one on an individual scale, if anyone ever comes across this. Here is a little secret: women can grow quickly attracted to a guy who has a vision and wants to command. She’ll follow your beliefs, not the other way around, if done properly. She’ll follow you. You’d be surprised. That’s the key to hammering out your own little oasis in a desert. Enough of us do it, who knows?

    • Replies: @Zero Philosopher
    @nebulafox

    You are explaining exactly the traditionalist view, and I disagree very strongly with you. Young men *want* their grievances to be heard. They find the traditionalist view, as demonstrated by your post, that young men are born to toil and suffer for others(the nation, the people,etc) to be totally unfair and suffocating. They reject it with every fiber of their being. Most young men do resent that their fathers never hugged them and just told them to "man up", while being vastly nore attentive and considerate to their sisters. Young men resent that they are told to "man up" by traditonalists like you, but those same traditionalists never tell young women to "woman up!". You see, it's only young men that have to sacrifice and toil and prove their worth. A young woman, or better yet, a young lady(because traditonalists always treat women with deference, hence "young lady", while young men are just, well ":young men") has to do absolutely nothing to prove their worth. Traditionalists tell young men that they should lift the heaviest loads, both metaphorically and literally, to sacrifice, and to put the well-being of their spoiled sisters, who already received far more love and affection from dad than he did, above their own. And what do they get in exchange for all this pain and suffering? A very vague sense of "male pride". And then they go to college, or to work, and they are forced to watch seminars about how women are better than men and how scumy men are and how they are *privileged* by Patriarchy and how they oppress women.

    Yeah, this response from you proved that I am right, and that young men truly cannot expect any sympathy from anyone. They are screwed with *both* traditionalists and the current Woke establishment.

    Let their anger continue rising, and let the chips fall where they may. Things will get really nasty.

  106. @nebulafox
    @Zero Philosopher

    >You don’t know true bitterness until you meet men under age 30. I suggest the Boomer men of Unz to actually get to meet and talk to men under 30 for you to truly understand the darkness of their rage.

    *Raises hand*

    Yeah. I get that anger. A lot of "trad" types can come off as completely disconnected from reality. And of course, not a few of them actually are. But really, we are here to sacrifice ourselves. That's our purpose, our raison d'etre. Have you noticed how miserable men tend to be if they try-often not knowing any better-to go about their problems like women? No. We don't get unhappy because of that. We get unhappy because we aren't able to do that, whether because there's nothing worth doing that for, or because it is demanded under the most obnoxious terms possible, without that key factor-*respect*-that gets men to work, sacrifice, and die without complaint. Add in blatant contempt and an utter refusal to see you as anything other than something that exists for the maximal convenience-not protection, not provision, not actual need, but convenience, and believe me, we can detect the difference-of others, and... well, you get guys tuning out.

    I can't pretend to offer a solution on a society wide scale... but I can offer one on an individual scale, if anyone ever comes across this. Here is a little secret: women can grow quickly attracted to a guy who has a vision and wants to command. She'll follow your beliefs, not the other way around, if done properly. She'll follow you. You'd be surprised. That's the key to hammering out your own little oasis in a desert. Enough of us do it, who knows?

    Replies: @Zero Philosopher

    You are explaining exactly the traditionalist view, and I disagree very strongly with you. Young men *want* their grievances to be heard. They find the traditionalist view, as demonstrated by your post, that young men are born to toil and suffer for others(the nation, the people,etc) to be totally unfair and suffocating. They reject it with every fiber of their being. Most young men do resent that their fathers never hugged them and just told them to “man up”, while being vastly nore attentive and considerate to their sisters. Young men resent that they are told to “man up” by traditonalists like you, but those same traditionalists never tell young women to “woman up!”. You see, it’s only young men that have to sacrifice and toil and prove their worth. A young woman, or better yet, a young lady(because traditonalists always treat women with deference, hence “young lady”, while young men are just, well “:young men”) has to do absolutely nothing to prove their worth. Traditionalists tell young men that they should lift the heaviest loads, both metaphorically and literally, to sacrifice, and to put the well-being of their spoiled sisters, who already received far more love and affection from dad than he did, above their own. And what do they get in exchange for all this pain and suffering? A very vague sense of “male pride”. And then they go to college, or to work, and they are forced to watch seminars about how women are better than men and how scumy men are and how they are *privileged* by Patriarchy and how they oppress women.

    Yeah, this response from you proved that I am right, and that young men truly cannot expect any sympathy from anyone. They are screwed with *both* traditionalists and the current Woke establishment.

    Let their anger continue rising, and let the chips fall where they may. Things will get really nasty.

  107. @Emil Nikola Richard
    @Almost Missouri

    Are there any decent statistics on prevalence of anorexia, bulimia, cutting, and trans- over time by the American Psychiatric Association or similar?

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @Almost Missouri

    If the APA did anything useful there would be.

  108. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    The phrase "crazy ex-girlfriend" should probably be updated to some sort of professional status or put in the DSM or something. (Does anybody else here share my opinion that the DSM should actually be called the DS/M?)

    I've had rather more than my share of crazy ex-girlfriends, and my experience mostly was that you could cure them of craziness just by putting your foot down and saying, "Stop being crazy!" and their response would be like, "Thank you, I've been waiting my entire life for a man to just say that to me in the right tone of voice!" I had a girlfriend once who began doing that awful "cutting-herself" thing, and I told her quite bluntly to just knock it off because it was bad for her, and then she stopped doing it at once, and then later admitted that the only reason she had done it in the first place was to provoke me to order her to stop. Then of course, obligatory make-up sex.

    Never skip that part!

    Replies: @Sulu

    One of the true ironies of female human nature is that the crazy ones are super hot in bed. And the ones that are nice and normal are plain vanilla in the sack. It’s a shame it took me till my late twenties to figure that out. But after that it was smooth sailing, relatively speaking.

    Sulu

  109. @Jonathan Mason
    I think it is obvious that a lot of trans people have personality disorders. It goes without saying.

    However personality disorders don't really exist, they are just labels in DSMxx that can be used for billing insurance companies for prescribing antidepressants and mood stabilizers and antianxiety pills to people who have a variety of interpersonal and behavioral problems, but don't really fit into psychosis categories like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.

    They are borderline, because they are borderline between psychosis and neurosis, in fact so neurotic that they might as well be psychotic for all the difference it makes.

    A person with borderline personality disorder is basically someone who is stupid, immoral, blames everyone else for their woes, likes to self harm for attention, and is often depressed or angry.

    While this might sound like a description of anyone's ex-wife, the thing that really defines someone with borderline personality disorder is that they are incapable of holding down any kind of responsible employment or fulfilling a role such as a wife and mother.

    I have also noticed that they almost never have any kind of hobbies or interests, other than making complaints.

    So it is not surprising that many will claim to be trans. What better way to aggravate and annoy your family and get all the attention for yourself?

    Replies: @ic1000

    Baloney, Jonathan Mason.

    If you feel that you must post meandering, internally-inconsistent first drafts, at least use the MORE tag.

  110. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @advancedatheist

    Excellent point. The entire legal system is designed to dissuade and punish the worst impulses of male behavior. It’s been quite effective.

    However, Western society in the current year has no system in place to curb the worst impulses of female behavior. Rather, systems like social media encourage women toward Cluster B disorders. One could argue that reality television actually rewarded women for displays of BPD and narcissism.

    Religion used to serve as a mechanism to pump the breaks on female sociopathy, but only Islam seems up to the task anymore. The results (We’re all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues) shouldn’t surprise anyone.

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Anon, @AnotherDad, @njguy73

    Yes, we must all live in the heads of 15-year-olds with Daddy issues.

    Doesn’t say much for the daddies, does it?

  111. @Art Deco
    @Anon

    Hadn't thought of that. Jory's behind it all.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Haven’t got any quarters to check. It’s all cashless. Coincidence?

    But! I have just learned there is a HAARP conspiracy theory lady in the neighborhood. I actually had to tell here that radio at human-reachable emission power is a bad way to perform any effective weather control whatsoever. Didn’t seem convinced. Maybe a sign.

    Now I will pick up totall fresh UR conpiracy theories (totally not heard when H1N1 was a thing) about we will all be population-controlled with the vaxx against a virus that was created in the lab but where nobody got the idea to just use that virus for population-control directly as if someone had written a bad Hollywood sequel.

    Would have beem far simpler, known to work and you wouldn’t have to wheel out Le Fauci for 2 years straight and counting.

  112. @Ray P
    @Sulu

    George Takei, is that you? Thanks for the honesty.

    Replies: @Sulu

    George Takei is gay. Sulu isn’t.

    Sulu

  113. @mc23
    @PhysicistDave

    I agree that this is a real tragedy and that it is being exploited.

    The singer Billie Elish recently confessed about the effect watching porn at the age of 11 had on her.
    The pop star stated that watching violent and “abusive” pornography resulted in her having sleep paralysis and night terrors. “It got to a point where I couldn’t watch anything else unless it was violent.”

    Combine that with other some many other factors, social media and media coverage and you have a literally mind altering storm for younger people. Even for older people it's difficult. I had a neighbor thirty years old who left his wife whom he had been with since high school because of porn addiction.

    There’s more involved than just porn I just use that example to illustrate some of the problems young people face. Our society is now capable of brain washing and gas lighting masses of people on a scale not known before.

    As Enoch Powell said: “The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils.”
    Our institutions and leadership are rotten. Smoking, a minor vice is demonized. Self-mutilation is cheered. I ask how many people in power actually believe in multiple genders, that biology is superseded by mental illness? I suspect virtually none but it’s convenient for various reasons and self-deception becomes easier with all the echo chambers.

    https://www.christianpost.com/news/billie-eilish-says-porn-destroyed-my-brain-after-exposure-at-11.html

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    I ask how many people in power actually believe in multiple genders, that biology is superseded by mental illness?

    I don’t know any more. Growing up, I always just assumed the leaders of America’s public and private institutions really were intelligent people making judgment calls on matters of serious import. Like anybody exercising executive power, sometimes they got it right, sometimes they got it wrong. And when things got broken, they tried to fix them. Someone on here mentioned that the Eisenhower v. Stevenson presidential campaign was probably the last principled political contest in the US between two smart, sincere and patriotic men and I think that’s probably correct.

    Now, I don’t think the “smartest people in the room” are any longer the smartest people in the room. Most of them seem pretty mid-witted or just have ridiculously pedestrian tastes and endeavors. So when a corporate president or a US Cabinet secretary gets all teary-eyed over the completely garbled, pseudo-science of “transgenderism,” I think they’re sincere. They don’t believe in God, they do believe in space aliens, and they think a man with an XY-chromosomal pair in each one of the trillions of cells in his body somehow ended up with a female mind/spirit/juju/kia/whatever. They also believe COVID is “deadly,” the jabs are “vaccines” that are 95-point-one-bazillion-percent effective, and wearing a mask does … something. Also, blacks are disproportionately shot by cops, humans are neurologically uniform, and one billion Americans would be Heaven on Earth.

    I don’t know where the smart, clear-headed, and physically courageous men went, but it’s not into leadership of our institutions. I think most of them get about halfway there after 15 years, see what it’s really like at the upper echelons, and decide to hunker down and retire in peace. One of the smartest men I know in the commercial insurance business did that. A brilliant relative who’s a medical doctor is doing the same thing; his attitude is the whole sector is so fucked up he wouldn’t want to be the head of any part of it. The US military seems especially good at making sure all the actual warrior-poets and scholars get drummed out by O-5.

    This could be really, really bad news, like the Europeans watching their seemingly irrevocable descent into World War One. Surely just a few key people saying, “No!” or a few key assassinations or a coup or two would have stopped the madness, but nobody did anything.

    Maybe the human species has got itself into a feedback loop that it can’t break, and all we can do is watch and wait until the Fermi Panic sets in.

    • Agree: Art Deco
  114. @Wilbur Hassenfus
    Betrays something about their character”; “belies” means the exact opposite.

    “Belie” as a malapropism is “in” this year, among the kind of people who learn basic vocabulary in middle age.

    Replies: @Athenian Gentleman

    “Betrays something about their character”; “belies” means the exact opposite.

    “Belie” as a malapropism is “in” this year, among the kind of people who learn basic vocabulary in middle age.

    Definition #5, in the first entry for betray found at Dictionary dot com, would indeed seem to fit perfectly:

    to reveal unconsciously (something one would preferably conceal): Her nervousness betrays her insecurity.

    Doesn’t all this, though, beg the question[1]…

    [MORE]

    I mean, if language was[2] my forte[3]….

    It would seem that most people, though, could care less[4]. At least, for all intensive purposes[5].

    [1] Gentlemen*, I’m afraid the present situation has become even more degenerate and inverted than I had realized.
    (*I use the term broadly.)

    It is with great regret and dismay that I call your attention to the following.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/beg-the-question

    Begging the question means “to elicit a specific question as a reaction or response,” and can often be replaced with “a question that begs to be answered.” However, a lesser used and more formal definition is “to ignore a question under the assumption it has already been answered.” The phrase itself comes from a translation of an Aristotelian phrase rendered as “beg the question” but meaning “assume the conclusion.”

    Appalling.

    Perhaps all is not lost, though. Dictionary dot com, at least as of this posting, offers an eminently gratifying antidote to Merriam-Webster‘s folly.
    beg the question:

    To assume what has still to be proved: “To say that we should help the region’s democratic movement begs the question of whether it really is democratic.”

    A little further-down [6] on the page, one finds a slightly longer entry that provides some elucidating elaboration. Then note, just below the box containing the primary text, the latest copyright date listed: 2002. Compare to the date of the corresponding M-W entry, which would appear to be no earlier than 2015 (the most recent date given for any of the numerous quotations featured on the page). One might, perhaps, contend that the M-W entry merely reflects the de facto reality at the time it was written. Surely, however, in the quoted entry in-question, the wording chosen by M-W went beyond such mere description. They stated categorically in the first sentence that the word “means” something that it, properly, does not mean. And then went-on to dismissively characterize the proper meaning as merely, “a lesser used and more formal definition”. Or is it I, perhaps, who has missed something here?

    [2] Properly were. Was, though, presumably could be correct, in a context where I had meant, for example, If, while still in school, I had applied myself with more dilligence to the study of proper language usage.

    [3] Properly pronounced fort; the e is silent. Good luck finding anyone today, however, who does not pronounce forte as for-tay.* And who, should you attempt to correct his error, will not stubbornly insist that he is correct and you are the one in error.
    (And not just within the community (kah-myun-ih-tay), if you know what I mean…)

    [4] Properly couldn’t care less. Could care less has the opposite of the intended meaning.

    [5] The correct expression is for all intents and purposes.

    [6] Is it properly further? Or farther? This is one of the many areas, concerning which, I must confess to having a rather shameful ignorance.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Athenian Gentleman

    Regarding your last item, farther may only refer to physical distance. Further may refer to just about anything. You're quite correct about everything else.

  115. @Zero Philosopher
    Teenaged boys have the highest rate of suicide of any demographic. At least girls, because of both feminism and the traditional empathy anc concern that people have for female wants and needs, are allowed to express themselves emotionally and vent their frustrations.

    But when it comes to young men, *nobody* cares about them. Traditionalists don't care about them because the attitude of traditionalists when it comes to young men is that they should "man up" and just take whatever life throws at them. This comes from the traditionalist view that males are the "disposable" biological gender and that, since their lives are not very valuable, their concerns and needs don't matter and they should fend for themselves because that is what a "real" man does. Something along the lines of:

    "You were born a male. The role of a male is to take whatever life throws at him and face it without whinning. Man up!"

    Likewise, the liberal "Woke" left *also* doesn't care about young men, because the official ideology of the Left is that masculinity is toxic and that young men don't get to complain because they are already privileged because they are members of the Patriarchy.

    Young men were always the bottom of the barrel of Humanity. Traditionally, the "use" of young men was to be cannon fodder at war. If you are born a male, you *better* achieve a high status fast, because that is the only way that your life will have any worth. A young woman has supreme unearned value just because of her womb, but a young man's value is almost close to zero.

    But at least in traditionalist societies, young man were given a very vague sense of value for doing "manly" things. That didn't add much value to their lives, but at least they were allowed to feel some pride if they got a promotion at work, or won a big ball game, or whatever. Likewise, young men were given more freedom than young women. They weren't given this higher freedom because parents liked them more, but simply because parents valued their lives much less than that of their daughters. But at least there was a small premium for the young man, in that he was allowed to go out on a Friday night, while his sister couldn't. But now the young women have all the traditional perks of femininity, and all the freedoms that were before reserved for young men. Now giving young men these traditional "consolation prizes" for having a lower biological value is "enforcing the Patriarchy" and "toxic masculinity" so it is not allowed and young women get to enjoy these few privileges that young men had while still keeping all the tradiotional perks of femininity.

    We are now faced with a situtation where young women have the few perks that used to be reserved for young men as a consolation prize for having a lower biological value and less valuable lives than young women, while young women keep all the traditional and immense privileges of femininity, like people(both male and female) giving far more importance to their wants and needs, getting always the benefit of the doubt, expecting males to protact you even at the cosr of their lives, etc.

    Because human beings are hard-wired to be nice and empathetic to the needs and wants of females, so women will never lose the traditional privileges they have. But young men have lost the few perks they used to have *and* people still put on them all the burden of masculinity that traditional society has. Women can now do all the things that used to be reserved for young men, but young men continue to have the low status that comes with their low biological value, and all the endless obligations and tough-treatment from people that come with it.

    Basically, young men continue to be told to "man up" and "don't whine, be a man!" of 1960, but now instead of them being told their behavior is jnatural and being rewarded for being good at things males enjoy, like sports and games, they are told that they are "toxic" and "Patriarchal".

    Young men now have the worst of both Worlds: they have all the burdens of "traditional" pre-1960 masculinity obligations and treatment from other people, and they are also at the bottom of the barrel of the new "woke" liberal-led Society, blamed for the oppression of women and their behavior regarded as toxic.

    In a nutshell: all the ogligations of traditional maculinity, and you don't get to complain either to traditionalists or to the liberals, because both camps think you have no valid grievances(for every different reasons, with the traditionalists believing that young men shouldn't complain because young men should be tough and not whine, and the liberals becausse young men are already privileged just for being male and are oppressors and not oppressed.).

    So young men can't win. They are discarded and their suffering ignored by both traditionalists as well as liberals.

    This is why so many young men sublimate their rage in violent video games, and many completely shut themselves out of Society. The young men that go in gun rampages and then kill themselves are a tiny minority. But many young men face a Society that responds to their pain be telling them to "man up!", while at the same time calling them Patriarchal oppressors of women and being "toxic" for enjoying what they enjoy

    How can anyone tolerate this? How can anyone tolerate living in a World that is intensely hostile to you 24/7 and where *no one* cares about your suffering, part of them because they believe that your role as a young male is to just take it, and the other part think you have no valid grievances because you are already privileged as a male member of the "Patriarchy", and that all you deserve is scoulding rather than sympathy?

    You don't know true bitterness until you meet men under age 30. I suggest the Boomer men of Unz to actually get to meet and talk to men under 30 for you to truly understand the darkness of their rage.

    If there is one thing that history shows incontrovertibly is that, when Society doesn't care about young men, young men don't care about Society. What are you going to do when young men start murdering police officers and then come for you? Who is going to protect you then? If you think that having an arsenal of guns at home will protect you, you are sadly mistaken. Young men are far, far more vicious and energetic than some fat 60 year-old Boomer. Just look at Afghanistan, where a bunch of young men with AK-47s kicked the ass of the World's most powerful military. Look at the picture of those Afghanis warriors, and most of them are clearly in their twenties. In troops of chimpanzees, the young bucks will some times gang up on the old farts and trample and dismember them alive for hogging all the young females for themselves, and for using them as cannon fodder to take the territory and females of rival groups.

    There is also an element of hatred for females in yourng men, that comes from ther upbringing as well as from social attitudes. They remember how much nicer their traditionalist parents were to their sisters, compared to the harsh treatment they received just fdor being male. And, at the same time, they went to schools ruled by liberals that blamed them for being "toxic" and how their gend3er is cancer, etc.

    I have younger cousins, and i can tell you that young men are in a state of furor like never before or since. And their rage is directed at everybody, because everybody treats them like crap. They hate the harshness that traditionalists treat them, and they equally hate the "Woke" liberals that scould them for just being male. Things are about to blow up.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Stebbing Heuer, @Brutusale

    The positive response to Jordan Peterson and his message from young men may be a response to this. A feeling of, ‘Finally, someone understands me.’

    The hostility of women and weak men to Peterson may also be part of this: it is a problem for them, that someone would receive an enthusiastic reaction from young men.

  116. @Athenian Gentleman
    @Wilbur Hassenfus



    “Betrays something about their character”; “belies” means the exact opposite.

     

    “Belie” as a malapropism is “in” this year, among the kind of people who learn basic vocabulary in middle age.
     
    Definition #5, in the first entry for betray found at Dictionary dot com, would indeed seem to fit perfectly:

    to reveal unconsciously (something one would preferably conceal): Her nervousness betrays her insecurity.
     
    Doesn't all this, though, beg the question[1]...

    I mean, if language was[2] my forte[3]....

    It would seem that most people, though, could care less[4]. At least, for all intensive purposes[5].

    [1] Gentlemen*, I'm afraid the present situation has become even more degenerate and inverted than I had realized.
    (*I use the term broadly.)

    It is with great regret and dismay that I call your attention to the following.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/beg-the-question

    Begging the question means "to elicit a specific question as a reaction or response," and can often be replaced with "a question that begs to be answered." However, a lesser used and more formal definition is "to ignore a question under the assumption it has already been answered." The phrase itself comes from a translation of an Aristotelian phrase rendered as "beg the question" but meaning "assume the conclusion."
     
    Appalling.

    Perhaps all is not lost, though. Dictionary dot com, at least as of this posting, offers an eminently gratifying antidote to Merriam-Webster's folly.
    beg the question:

    To assume what has still to be proved: “To say that we should help the region's democratic movement begs the question of whether it really is democratic.”
     
    A little further-down [6] on the page, one finds a slightly longer entry that provides some elucidating elaboration. Then note, just below the box containing the primary text, the latest copyright date listed: 2002. Compare to the date of the corresponding M-W entry, which would appear to be no earlier than 2015 (the most recent date given for any of the numerous quotations featured on the page). One might, perhaps, contend that the M-W entry merely reflects the de facto reality at the time it was written. Surely, however, in the quoted entry in-question, the wording chosen by M-W went beyond such mere description. They stated categorically in the first sentence that the word "means" something that it, properly, does not mean. And then went-on to dismissively characterize the proper meaning as merely, "a lesser used and more formal definition". Or is it I, perhaps, who has missed something here?

    [2] Properly were. Was, though, presumably could be correct, in a context where I had meant, for example, If, while still in school, I had applied myself with more dilligence to the study of proper language usage.

    [3] Properly pronounced fort; the e is silent. Good luck finding anyone today, however, who does not pronounce forte as for-tay.* And who, should you attempt to correct his error, will not stubbornly insist that he is correct and you are the one in error.
    (And not just within the community (kah-myun-ih-tay), if you know what I mean...)

    [4] Properly couldn't care less. Could care less has the opposite of the intended meaning.

    [5] The correct expression is for all intents and purposes.

    [6] Is it properly further? Or farther? This is one of the many areas, concerning which, I must confess to having a rather shameful ignorance.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Regarding your last item, farther may only refer to physical distance. Further may refer to just about anything. You’re quite correct about everything else.

    • Thanks: Athenian Gentleman
  117. Fully agree. Cluster B. Fun fact: every cult is a cluster B phenomenon.

    I see it more as narcissism, though. They have a very stable self-image, which is made of a very false outer layer and a binary/disassociated exaggerated inner self-condemning layer which they prefer not to think about.

    The core symptom of every narcissist is bottomless self-hatred. They think if they were authentic you would hate them as much as they hate themselves. They thus cover themselves with a protective fake identity.

    BLM pretends to be pro-black and actually spikes the murder rate, the way the narcissist pretends to be grandiose and actually despises themselves.

    The narcissist demands you affirm their fake identity and gets super mad if you don’t, because they think you’ve noticed how hateful their core is. They don’t mind being abandoned but they intensely fear not being seen “properly,” by which they mean accepting their counterfeit persona.

    Narcissism demands that it’s possible to socially construct one’s identity, because the alternative, to them, feels exactly like being cast out into the woods to starve to death. So, death. They cling to this delusion because they literally think the alternative is death. It’s important so I said it three times.

    The self-hatred comes out as masochism sometimes. If enough narcissists get together they try to make self-punishment the law of the land.

    The borderline is obsessed with someone who is different from them. The narcissist can’t admit anyone differs from them. They think anyone who isn’t acting exactly like they are is either cheating or lying. Either not playing by the rules or a hypocrite.

  118. @AndrewR
    @PhysicistDave

    I never said that every person who identifies as trans or non-binary is faking it. But ten or even five years ago, many of them would have just identified as "gender non-conforming" without thinking that they weren't actually the sex they were identified at birth as. Transmania is a social psychosis that is partly organic, but is also pushed hard by the same people pushing CRT and other sociopathologies. Part of it is rooted in transhumanism and another part is rooted in the increasing powerlessness that the average person has (or perceives themselves to have) over their own destiny.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    AndrewR wrote to me:

    I never said that every person who identifies as trans or non-binary is faking it.

    I wasn’t challenging your earlier post, just expanding on it. Since you inspired me to go into some more details, I felt that in fairness I should link to your comment. Sorry if that was not clear.

    I just wanted to emphasize that, in pointing out the idiocy of the Left, we must not lose sight of the fact that they are really, truly destroying actual human lives.

    AR also wrote:

    Part of it is rooted in transhumanism and another part is rooted in the increasing powerlessness that the average person has (or perceives themselves to have) over their own destiny.

    Yeah, though I doubt that transhumanism, as goofy as it surely is, has an effect on very many people.

    Humans are not like butterflies: they do not mature naturally on their own. They need help from already mature adults. And we are failing to give that help. And, yes, as you say, in our supposedly liberated society, people feel less control over their own destiny than most people felt in the supposedly repressive past.

    We need to understand why this is so.

    In our society, lots of boys do not want to become men. Lots of girls do not want to become women. And many men and women to do not want to have children.

    This is a disaster for our species, not to mention our country.

    • Agree: Richard B
  119. Impulsive and risky behavior, such as having unsafe sex, gambling or binge eating
    Unstable or fragile self-image
    Unstable and intense relationships
    Up and down moods, often as a reaction to interpersonal stress
    Suicidal behavior or threats of self-injury
    Intense fear of being alone or abandoned
    Ongoing feelings of emptiness
    Frequent, intense displays of anger
    Stress-related paranoia that comes and goes

    I’m not sure if all those add up to one overall thing, but I guess they tend to go together.

    BPD is adults with the emptions and emotional regulation of infants. Even the suicidal behaviour is just a grown-up version of “I’ll hold my breath until I turn blue!”

    It’s adults who are not captains of their own souls. Adults with a completely external locus of control.

  120. @Travis
    Wokeness is just taking Progressive ideology to its logical progression. The majority of Americans actually support most of the progressive agenda. The progressive/Woke ideology is anti-white and anti-Christian. Today Christian Whites are a minority in America. Straight White males are just 25% of the US population, thus ~60% of Americans benefit from cancel culture. It will help them get into the top colleges, advance their careers and blacklist Straight Whites.

    While it is true that many progressives have psychological problems and 30% of women are taking psychotropic medications the main reason for the great awakening was due to White Christians becoming a minority in America 10 years ago. More Americans benefit from this ideology than are directly harmed by it. Young Americans are taught that they can gain racial or sexual Pokémon status points which help them advance their careers and status. Among our University students today they learn how to take advantage of their Pokémon identity points and how to gain Pokémon status points. 50% of College students are White , yet only 20% are Straight White males and 25% of white females students identify as Non-Binary or bisexual or trannsexual....

    The flight from white is real and shows no sign of ending. The solution requires White males to lead us out of this. The reason so many White females are now on psych drugs is because they cannot find suitable boyfriends and husbands. This is the same reason so many white females no longer identify as heterosexual. Since they cannot find men to satisfy them. Females become hysterical when they lack a dominant male partner. This has been known for thousands of years. Most women require a dominant male in their lives to reduce moodiness and psychological problems. Unfortunately their are not enough High testosterone white guys in America today. Testosterone levels have dropped significantly since the 1970s and this has resulted in far too many females lacking a suitable husband or boyfriend. Thus we have seen a big rise in crazy white females.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @74v56ruthiyj

    The traditional fix for this is polygamy.

  121. @Michelle
    In my hey day, I fit, exactly, the definition of "Borderline Personality Disorder". It only manifested when I was in relationships that were important. When I was head over heels, I would go bat shit crazy! It happened 3 times. I am, the epitome of the crazy ex girlfriend. After menopause, I became totally "Chill". No more crazy! It was all about the hormones. One of the exes, who has kept in contact with me for over 30 years, often remarks upon my current level headedness and calm demeanor.

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted, @Dave from Oz

    It was all about the hormones.

    Hormonal birth control is at the root of a lot of what is wrong today with women and society in general.

  122. @njguy73
    @advancedatheist

    Yes, the vast majority of teenage boys with emotional problems simply immerse themselves in video games, porn, or drugs. So long as they're not shooting up schools, no one gives a crap about them.

    Replies: @74v56ruthiyj

    Why don’t young men ride motorcycles anymore? Powerful, fast, loud, dangerous, sexy, what’s not to like? Video, porn, and drugs are weak substitutes. Something is very wrong.

    • Replies: @njguy73
    @74v56ruthiyj

    Motorcycles cost money, even to rent. Porn is free and video games are very cheap.

  123. @Shetland
    @AndrewR

    This sounds plausible. Would you care to explain a bit more about how this works to benefit this billionaire class? I ask this sincerely as someone who one might refer to as a “normie.”

    Replies: @AndrewR

    People fighting over race, sex, etc aren’t fighting about healthcare, wages, etc

  124. @Polistra
    Thanks for the Christmas check, Altai!

    Replies: @Richard B

    We’re all obligated to live in the head of a 15 year old girl with daddy issues and so far it’s nearly torn the Western world apart in just a few years.

    If that’s the case why not take child abuse seriously? Especially since most of it is multi-generational.

    One answer is that if there’s two things Americans, and not just Americans, do not want to talk about it’s Family Systems and Social Class. They both just hit too close to home. The first one literally. In short, most people don’t want to know, they want to judge.

    That’s why they’d prefer to moralize about the symptoms so as to ignore the causes. Then again, moralizing has always been the preferred strategy for avoiding real problems with serious social consequences. Why bother when you just judge?

  125. @Zero Philosopher
    Teenaged boys have the highest rate of suicide of any demographic. At least girls, because of both feminism and the traditional empathy anc concern that people have for female wants and needs, are allowed to express themselves emotionally and vent their frustrations.

    But when it comes to young men, *nobody* cares about them. Traditionalists don't care about them because the attitude of traditionalists when it comes to young men is that they should "man up" and just take whatever life throws at them. This comes from the traditionalist view that males are the "disposable" biological gender and that, since their lives are not very valuable, their concerns and needs don't matter and they should fend for themselves because that is what a "real" man does. Something along the lines of:

    "You were born a male. The role of a male is to take whatever life throws at him and face it without whinning. Man up!"

    Likewise, the liberal "Woke" left *also* doesn't care about young men, because the official ideology of the Left is that masculinity is toxic and that young men don't get to complain because they are already privileged because they are members of the Patriarchy.

    Young men were always the bottom of the barrel of Humanity. Traditionally, the "use" of young men was to be cannon fodder at war. If you are born a male, you *better* achieve a high status fast, because that is the only way that your life will have any worth. A young woman has supreme unearned value just because of her womb, but a young man's value is almost close to zero.

    But at least in traditionalist societies, young man were given a very vague sense of value for doing "manly" things. That didn't add much value to their lives, but at least they were allowed to feel some pride if they got a promotion at work, or won a big ball game, or whatever. Likewise, young men were given more freedom than young women. They weren't given this higher freedom because parents liked them more, but simply because parents valued their lives much less than that of their daughters. But at least there was a small premium for the young man, in that he was allowed to go out on a Friday night, while his sister couldn't. But now the young women have all the traditional perks of femininity, and all the freedoms that were before reserved for young men. Now giving young men these traditional "consolation prizes" for having a lower biological value is "enforcing the Patriarchy" and "toxic masculinity" so it is not allowed and young women get to enjoy these few privileges that young men had while still keeping all the tradiotional perks of femininity.

    We are now faced with a situtation where young women have the few perks that used to be reserved for young men as a consolation prize for having a lower biological value and less valuable lives than young women, while young women keep all the traditional and immense privileges of femininity, like people(both male and female) giving far more importance to their wants and needs, getting always the benefit of the doubt, expecting males to protact you even at the cosr of their lives, etc.

    Because human beings are hard-wired to be nice and empathetic to the needs and wants of females, so women will never lose the traditional privileges they have. But young men have lost the few perks they used to have *and* people still put on them all the burden of masculinity that traditional society has. Women can now do all the things that used to be reserved for young men, but young men continue to have the low status that comes with their low biological value, and all the endless obligations and tough-treatment from people that come with it.

    Basically, young men continue to be told to "man up" and "don't whine, be a man!" of 1960, but now instead of them being told their behavior is jnatural and being rewarded for being good at things males enjoy, like sports and games, they are told that they are "toxic" and "Patriarchal".

    Young men now have the worst of both Worlds: they have all the burdens of "traditional" pre-1960 masculinity obligations and treatment from other people, and they are also at the bottom of the barrel of the new "woke" liberal-led Society, blamed for the oppression of women and their behavior regarded as toxic.

    In a nutshell: all the ogligations of traditional maculinity, and you don't get to complain either to traditionalists or to the liberals, because both camps think you have no valid grievances(for every different reasons, with the traditionalists believing that young men shouldn't complain because young men should be tough and not whine, and the liberals becausse young men are already privileged just for being male and are oppressors and not oppressed.).

    So young men can't win. They are discarded and their suffering ignored by both traditionalists as well as liberals.

    This is why so many young men sublimate their rage in violent video games, and many completely shut themselves out of Society. The young men that go in gun rampages and then kill themselves are a tiny minority. But many young men face a Society that responds to their pain be telling them to "man up!", while at the same time calling them Patriarchal oppressors of women and being "toxic" for enjoying what they enjoy

    How can anyone tolerate this? How can anyone tolerate living in a World that is intensely hostile to you 24/7 and where *no one* cares about your suffering, part of them because they believe that your role as a young male is to just take it, and the other part think you have no valid grievances because you are already privileged as a male member of the "Patriarchy", and that all you deserve is scoulding rather than sympathy?

    You don't know true bitterness until you meet men under age 30. I suggest the Boomer men of Unz to actually get to meet and talk to men under 30 for you to truly understand the darkness of their rage.

    If there is one thing that history shows incontrovertibly is that, when Society doesn't care about young men, young men don't care about Society. What are you going to do when young men start murdering police officers and then come for you? Who is going to protect you then? If you think that having an arsenal of guns at home will protect you, you are sadly mistaken. Young men are far, far more vicious and energetic than some fat 60 year-old Boomer. Just look at Afghanistan, where a bunch of young men with AK-47s kicked the ass of the World's most powerful military. Look at the picture of those Afghanis warriors, and most of them are clearly in their twenties. In troops of chimpanzees, the young bucks will some times gang up on the old farts and trample and dismember them alive for hogging all the young females for themselves, and for using them as cannon fodder to take the territory and females of rival groups.

    There is also an element of hatred for females in yourng men, that comes from ther upbringing as well as from social attitudes. They remember how much nicer their traditionalist parents were to their sisters, compared to the harsh treatment they received just fdor being male. And, at the same time, they went to schools ruled by liberals that blamed them for being "toxic" and how their gend3er is cancer, etc.

    I have younger cousins, and i can tell you that young men are in a state of furor like never before or since. And their rage is directed at everybody, because everybody treats them like crap. They hate the harshness that traditionalists treat them, and they equally hate the "Woke" liberals that scould them for just being male. Things are about to blow up.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Stebbing Heuer, @Brutusale

    Teenaged boys have the highest rate of suicide of any demographic. At least girls, because of both feminism and the traditional empathy anc concern that people have for female wants and needs, are allowed to express themselves emotionally and vent their frustrations.

    From the CDC:

    Youth and Young Adults

    Youth and young adults ages 10–24 account for 14% of all suicides. The suicide rate for this age group (10.2 per 100,000) was lower than other age groups.3 However, suicide is the second leading cause of death for young people, accounting for 6,488 deaths.3

    Some groups of young people (ages 10-24 years) most at-risk for suicide include non-Hispanic AI/AN, with a suicide rate of 28.2 per 100,000. 3 Sexual minority youth are also at increased risk (see below).

    Youth and young adults aged 10-24 have lower suicide rates, but they have higher rates of emergency department (ED) visits for self-harm (342.5 per 100,000) compared to people ages 25 years and older (121.9 per 100,000).3

    This was an estimated 217,447 ED visits for self-harm among this younger age group.3 Girls and young women aged 10-24 are at particularly high risk, with their ED visit rate (487.9 per 100,000) being twice the rate of ED visits among boys and young men (203.3 per 100,000).
    Further, the rate of ED visits among girls in 2019 was double compared to 2001 (244.3 per 100,000). 3
    In 2019, 9% of high school students reported attempting suicide during the previous 12 months.4 This increased from 6.3% in 2009. Suicide attempts were reported most frequently among girls compared to boys (11% vs. 6.6%) and among non-Hispanic black students (11.8%).4

    TL/DR version:
    Ages 10-24 have the lowest suicide rate but higher rates of self-harm.
    ED visits for self-harm by 10-24 girls almost twice that of boys.

  126. @Anon
    What about the larger woke population which supports this mental illness of transgenderism? Don’t they have a major malfunction themselves??

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/quidditch-leagues-to-rename-sport-to-distance-from-jk-rowlings-anti-trans-positions/ar-AARVEtP

    Quidditch Leagues to Rename Sport to Distance From J.K. Rowling's 'Anti-Trans Positions'

    Two quidditch leagues announced this week that they are working to rename the sport in an effort to distance themselves from J.K. Rowling, citing her "anti-trans positions in recent years."

    U.S. Quidditch and Major League Quidditch made the announcement in a press release on Wednesday and said that the "leagues will conduct a series of surveys over the next few months to guide a decision regarding the new name."

    The two leagues noted in the announcement that the sport of quidditch was adopted from Rowling's Harry Potter series.

    "The leagues are hoping a name change can help them continue to distance themselves from the works of J.K. Rowling, the author of the Harry Potter book series, who has increasingly come under scrutiny for her anti-trans positions in recent years," the two leagues said in their announcement.
     

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    J.K. Rowling forgot to have Harry Potter transition in order realize his full magical potential. She had forgotten to include any PiPOCs in the first book, but responded to criticism on that score. Transmania didn’t come along until the series was already wrapped.

  127. Rococo Leftism. We saw it with homosexuality. We were implored to accept what queers did in their own bedrooms as none of our business, and certainly not the government’s business.

    Well, okay then.

    Rococo Leftism: Gay Pride Parades, perverted sex education in schools, etc.

    Wokism is broad brush Rococo Leftism. Its purpose is to get every warped individual to vote for Democrats.

    For over two generations, the Democrats nurtured personality disorder in Blacks. Many Blacks! believe what Dems have been teaching, that all their problems are somebody else’s fault (a key characteristic of personality disorder). Democrats are the White Saviors who will save the Blacks!, trannies, et al. Which, of course, leaves them dependent on Dems, and absent character to take care of themselves. It is not rooted in Dems caring – quite the opposite. Dems don’t care who they destroy in their quest for power over everyone else.

    My favorite Rococo Leftism? “Racist roads.”

    “When character-disordered individuals blame someone else-a spouse, a child, a friend, a parent, an employer or something else-bad influences, the schools, the government, racism, sexism, society, the “system”-for their problems, these problems persist. Nothing has been accomplished. By casting away their responsibility they may feel comfortable with themselves, but they have ceased to solve the problems of living, have ceased to grow spiritually, and have become dead weight for society. They have cast their pain onto society.” – Dr. Scott Peck, The Road Less Traveled, 1978

  128. @74v56ruthiyj
    @njguy73

    Why don't young men ride motorcycles anymore? Powerful, fast, loud, dangerous, sexy, what's not to like? Video, porn, and drugs are weak substitutes. Something is very wrong.

    Replies: @njguy73

    Motorcycles cost money, even to rent. Porn is free and video games are very cheap.

  129. @Tom F.
    Cluster B - borderline, sociopathy, narcissim, histrionic - once you see it, you can't unsee it.

    Mental illness is very attractive for people who want attention but can't get it by accomplishment or adding value. Young people especially. What is more special than a young girl who imagines she is a boy? AWFLs facilitate this, because they view young, attractive, fertile girls as their competition.

    A great podcast, "Disaffected" hosted by Joshua Slocum. Slocum is a gay man who has a compelling personal history, and noticed that the Cluster B disorders were being normalized by the woke left. Cluster Bs are people who normally wouldn't be allowed into our lives, but because of the normalization, institutionalization, and politicization of wokeness, we all have to deal with their behavior and impositions.

    Replies: @Athenian Gentleman

    A great podcast, “Disaffected” hosted by Joshua Slocum. Slocum is a gay man who has a compelling personal history, and noticed that the Cluster B disorders were being normalized by the woke left.

    Thank you (and to Anon[314]) for this recommendation.
    https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/disaffected-disaffected-NXG2eB8PklK/

    Listened to the Nov. 21st episode (“Shameless: Pornography in Public School”) and most of the introductory “origin story” episode. Slocum sounds pretty based.

    His takedown of NPR, particularly of their insufferably smug, self-righteous, scolding, dishonest, white-hostile employees-of-color, was both spot-on as well as quite enjoyable.

    As for the pernicious, graphically obscene propaganda in schools, I had already been aware of the phenomenon for some time, from sources such as
    https://massresistance.org/

    :

    Porn is free and video games are very cheap.

    While not disputing the obvious truth and relevance of your statement, it might be noted that nothing is truly free. There may be no charge but there is always a cost.

    Remember the ZZ Top lyric,
    “You get you’re money next-to-nothing, and your chicks for-free”?

    • Replies: @Gamecock
    @Athenian Gentleman

    No, because ZZ Top never said it.

    Replies: @Athenian Gentleman

  130. @Athenian Gentleman
    @Tom F.


    A great podcast, “Disaffected” hosted by Joshua Slocum. Slocum is a gay man who has a compelling personal history, and noticed that the Cluster B disorders were being normalized by the woke left.
     
    Thank you (and to Anon[314]) for this recommendation.
    https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/disaffected-disaffected-NXG2eB8PklK/

    Listened to the Nov. 21st episode ("Shameless: Pornography in Public School") and most of the introductory "origin story" episode. Slocum sounds pretty based.

    His takedown of NPR, particularly of their insufferably smug, self-righteous, scolding, dishonest, white-hostile employees-of-color, was both spot-on as well as quite enjoyable.

    As for the pernicious, graphically obscene propaganda in schools, I had already been aware of the phenomenon for some time, from sources such as
    https://massresistance.org/

    @njguy73:


    Porn is free and video games are very cheap.
     
    While not disputing the obvious truth and relevance of your statement, it might be noted that nothing is truly free. There may be no charge but there is always a cost.

    Remember the ZZ Top lyric,
    "You get you're money next-to-nothing, and your chicks for-free"?

    Replies: @Gamecock

    No, because ZZ Top never said it.

    • Replies: @Athenian Gentleman
    @Gamecock


    Remember the ZZ Top lyric,
    “You get you’re money next-to-nothing, and your chicks for-free”?

    No, because ZZ Top never said it.
     

     
    Touche`.
    From Wikipedia:

    "Money for Nothing" is a song by British rock band Dire Straits, the second track on their fifth studio album, Brothers in Arms (1985).
     
    But my error was not without basis. From the same Wikipedia entry linked above:

    Knopfler modeled his guitar sound on ZZ Top guitarist Billy Gibbons' trademark guitar tone, as ZZ Top's music videos were already a staple of early MTV.
     
    Their videos from early MTV are what I, at least primarily, know ZZ Top from. Assuming that Dire Straits put their song Money for Nothing to a music video near the time of its release that played on MTV, I most likely would have seen it as well.

    Also from ibid.:


    The lyrics for the song have been criticised as being homophobic.[22]
     
    Without presuming to judge or condemn anyone in particular, let me just take this opportunity to categorically and unequivocally disavow any homophobia that may have been involved. I make no claims to being any kind of moral exemplar but if there's one thing that...
  131. @Gamecock
    @Athenian Gentleman

    No, because ZZ Top never said it.

    Replies: @Athenian Gentleman

    Remember the ZZ Top lyric,
    “You get you’re money next-to-nothing, and your chicks for-free”?

    No, because ZZ Top never said it.

    Touche`.
    From Wikipedia:

    “Money for Nothing” is a song by British rock band Dire Straits, the second track on their fifth studio album, Brothers in Arms (1985).

    But my error was not without basis. From the same Wikipedia entry linked above:

    Knopfler modeled his guitar sound on ZZ Top guitarist Billy Gibbons’ trademark guitar tone, as ZZ Top’s music videos were already a staple of early MTV.

    Their videos from early MTV are what I, at least primarily, know ZZ Top from. Assuming that Dire Straits put their song Money for Nothing to a music video near the time of its release that played on MTV, I most likely would have seen it as well.

    Also from ibid.:

    The lyrics for the song have been criticised as being homophobic.[22]

    Without presuming to judge or condemn anyone in particular, let me just take this opportunity to categorically and unequivocally disavow any homophobia that may have been involved. I make no claims to being any kind of moral exemplar but if there’s one thing that…

  132. @Tom F.
    One marker for mental illness not yet mentioned in this thread is "Autogynephilia."
    https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/autogynephilia

    This is where the gay man (ok, trans man) imagines himself as a beautiful woman and then 1) wants the rest of the world to play along and treat him as if he is a beautiful woman; and 2) gets horribly histrionic, narcissistic, antisocial, borderline and acting out if this doesn't happen, so the rest of us in the world get to enjoy a Cluster B acting out.

    If anyone remembers that LA Times sports reporter, Mike Penner, that left his beautiful wife (also a sports reporter at LAT) to transition, he 'snapped out of it' after a few years. He looked in the mirror, and sobbed to a friend that "I'm not pretty!" and he still had a man's voice. He wound up bribing an IT guy to remove all his previous work, and then blew his brains out in a parking garage. The suicide rate for transsexuals is crazy big, about 10 times the general population; not a mentally healthy subpop.

    Replies: @Tom F.

    …and let us not forget that Transgender pioneer, Ted Kaczynski. Transferred from Supermax, at age 79, to another prison medical facility in order to put the finishing touches on his transgender transition. Hopefully the Federal government will pay for a shave, facial that is.

    P.S. – while we are on the Unabomber subject, offering gratitude to the Unabomber’s brother who turned him in after 15 years of FBI failure, thank you Unabrother for saving innocent lives.

Comments are closed.

Subscribe to All Steve Sailer Comments via RSS
PastClassics
Becker update V1.3.2
The Surprising Elements of Talmudic Judaism
Analyzing the History of a Controversial Movement
The Shaping Event of Our Modern World
How America was neoconned into World War IV