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Back in January 2017, I headlined about a stabby Chicanx studies major at Berkeley who randomly murdered schoolteacher Emilie Inman:

Fugitive Latinx / Chicanx Studies Major Who Is Wanted in Berkeley Stabbing Murder Answers Only to Pronoun “They”

This horrible case is, hopefully, finally over. From Berkeleyside:

Family, friends say insanity plea means no justice in Emilie Inman murder case

By Emilie Raguso Nov. 24, 2019, 8:40 p.m.

Governor Brown, Presidential candidate Steyer, and They

A devastating murder case concluded Friday in Alameda County Superior Court with a judge finding Pablo Gomez Jr. not guilty by reason of insanity and confining the convicted killer to a state mental hospital for 39 years to life.

In a recent phone conversation, Inman’s father, Scott, told Berkeleyside that the court process had taken a heavy toll on the family’s physical and mental health. Multiple trial dates had been scheduled and ultimately postponed. Loved ones put their lives on hold to drive hours up to Oakland for countless hearings. At most of those hearings, nothing much happened. The timing of the legal process, he said, is all about the perpetrator’s rights. …

Inman said he also wondered whether the case might actually have gone to trial had the murder happened somewhere other than Alameda County, with its particular jury pool. He’d spoken with a number of judges and legal experts who reviewed the case material and believed that it would have. …

Read the whole story there.

 
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  1. Berkeleyside is real? I get it confused with Babylon Bee.

    Jerry Brown, Tom Steyer, They

    “Tom and Jerry” just add another infusion to the cartoonish aroma wafting through this story.

    • Replies: @athEIst
    @Reg Cæsar

    Cartoonish is not the aroma I got. Wasn't Tom looking (paying) for some celebrity endorsements?

    , @BenKenobi
    @Reg Cæsar

    Governor of California and Billionaire pictured with fey Latinx rent-boy who later committed a savage murder: nothing to see here, move along.

  2. Reminder: third world migration drastically increases the population of violently mentally ill people.

    2007 study in Alameda County: children of black mothers 3 times more likely to be psychotic.

    https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/36/4/751/665657

    The statistical quality of this study is very high BTW.

    It notes in the “background” section that

    “ Immigrant groups in Western Europe have markedly increased rates of schizophrenia. The highest rates are found in ethnic groups that are predominantly black. ”

    Anong children receiving emergency psych treatment:

    “ a diagnosis of schizophrenia or psychosis was 3.3 times more likely for African Americans and 2.9 times more likely for Latinos than for their white counterparts.”

    “ A very high risk of schizophrenia has also been reported for Moroccan males in the Netherlands.”

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17278906/

    • Replies: @Altai
    @Lot

    It was first noted about the initial waves of 'Windrush' generation Jamaicans in London and other large cities had conspicuously higher levels of schizophrenia, particularly among the young single men. ('The Lonely Londoners') Social isolation and estrangement from the broader society are seemingly some of the primary environmental risk factors for schizophrenia.

    I wonder if the populations involved might hint at this being largely sociological with young men from these groups in the countries mentioned often filling a particular socio-economic niche and live in precarious social environments with much less hope for social advancement. A young single man with poor job prospects is the most alienated form of being.

    Replies: @GermanReader2, @athEIst

    , @Triumph104
    @Lot


    If you are a black man in Britain, you are 17 times more likely to be diagnosed with a serious mental health condition and six times more likely than a white man to be an inpatient in a mental health unit.
     
    https://www.thefader.com/2016/09/26/black-british-mental-health-keith-dube-bbc-three
    , @TelfoedJohn
    @Lot

    I’m sure some of this is due to not being in an environment and climate which matches the ancestral one. The Scots-Irish in the southern states are not known for being functional. Neither are northern state blacks. Probably vitamin d deficiency in the latter: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323919.php#1

    Replies: @Pheasant, @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Mr McKenna
    @Lot

    Good info, of a sort. Our Vibrant Future; increasingly Our Vibrant Present.

    And it's truly the gift that will keep on giving, over and over.


    UC Berkeley activist
     
    Yes. One among many.
    , @AnotherDad
    @Lot

    People don't belong where they don't belong.

    I will say some vitamin D supplements would probably help, but the fundamental answer is, as always: do not let them in!

    , @Corvinus
    @Lot

    "Reminder: third world migration drastically increases the population of violently mentally ill people."

    Nuance escapes you. For a more accurate discussion, read 209-221.

    https://www.iom.int/sites/default/files/country/docs/china/r5_world_migration_report_2018_en.pdf

    “A very high risk of schizophrenia has also been reported for Moroccan males in the Netherlands.”

    The study is from 2007. The authors acknowledge that "the explanation for these findings is uncertain. Social adversity, racial discrimination, family dysfunction, unemployment and poor housing conditions have been proposed as contributing factors".

    Replies: @jbwilson24, @Charles Erwin Wilson

  3. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    How does a state that says a man with a wig is a ‘woman’ determine what is or isn’t insane?

    Btw, if Gomez is a ‘they’, and if one of ‘them’ killed the girl, is it fair to lock up ALL of ‘them’ along with the one of ‘them’ that is the real murderer?

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Anonymous

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZowK0NAvig

  4. The pro criminal jury pool of Alameda county Ca consists of Oakland Pittsburgh Berkeley and other Alameda black ghetto towns. There were almost none of these useless sub species in Alameda county in 1939. By 1942 tens of thousands had been brought in to work in war industry.
    At least Eastern Europe is free of the Soviet communists who took over their countries as a result of WW2. American states cities and towns that had been almost free of blacks in 1939 are still being damaged and destroyed by the black migration of WW2.

    • Replies: @1661er
    @Alden

    Assuming you mean Pittsburg, it's in Contra Costa County, not Alameda county.

    They can always move the trial to east side of Alameda County, like Dublin/Livemore, or even the island city of Alameda to more sane juries.

    Replies: @Alden

    , @bomag
    @Alden


    ...still being damaged and destroyed by the black migration of WW2.
     
    Makes one reconsider, some more, the consequences of WWII, along with the ongoing efforts to "make the world safe for democracy" (Wilson's WWI phrase, invoked by FDR); our resulting world policeman status; and our efforts to accommodate the world's problems.

    In FDR's 1941 State of the Union, famous for laying out the four freedoms, he mused that No realistic American can expect from [an Axis victory] international generosity, or return of true independence, or world disarmament, or freedom of expression, or freedom of religion–or even good business.

    Considering that today "international generosity" means we have to take in other country's migrants; that we don't seem particularly independent with all our interlaced agreements; the world is hardly disarmed; freedom of expression and religion is tattered; and that business has gone the way of oligarchy, remind me again who won WWII?
    , @Rob McX
    @Alden


    At least Eastern Europe is free of the Soviet communists who took over their countries as a result of WW2.
     
    Funny how that worked out. We've ended up more cucked than the Eastern Europeans ever were. I don't recall any citizens of communist countries having to pretend they believed a man can have periods.

    Replies: @Alden

  5. Just this evening, I saw a political ad featuring Tom Steyer. He’s the man who can beat Trump, so he said. I hope that picture of Steyer palling around with with the murdering “They” features prominently in Mike Bloomberg’s ads.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Mr. Anon

    Don't think attacking Steyer is a priority for Bloomberg or any other Dem candidate; he's at about 1% in the polls.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

  6. “It feels like it’s all been about him.”

    Uh oh.

    “Hello. Berkeleycide Deadname Squad?”

  7. Altai [AKA "Altai_4"] says:
    @Lot
    Reminder: third world migration drastically increases the population of violently mentally ill people.

    2007 study in Alameda County: children of black mothers 3 times more likely to be psychotic.

    https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/36/4/751/665657

    The statistical quality of this study is very high BTW.

    It notes in the “background” section that

    “ Immigrant groups in Western Europe have markedly increased rates of schizophrenia. The highest rates are found in ethnic groups that are predominantly black. ”

    Anong children receiving emergency psych treatment:

    “ a diagnosis of schizophrenia or psychosis was 3.3 times more likely for African Americans and 2.9 times more likely for Latinos than for their white counterparts.”

    “ A very high risk of schizophrenia has also been reported for Moroccan males in the Netherlands.”

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17278906/

    Replies: @Altai, @Triumph104, @TelfoedJohn, @Mr McKenna, @AnotherDad, @Corvinus

    It was first noted about the initial waves of ‘Windrush’ generation Jamaicans in London and other large cities had conspicuously higher levels of schizophrenia, particularly among the young single men. (‘The Lonely Londoners’) Social isolation and estrangement from the broader society are seemingly some of the primary environmental risk factors for schizophrenia.

    I wonder if the populations involved might hint at this being largely sociological with young men from these groups in the countries mentioned often filling a particular socio-economic niche and live in precarious social environments with much less hope for social advancement. A young single man with poor job prospects is the most alienated form of being.

    • Replies: @GermanReader2
    @Altai

    I think a great part of it can be attributed to the greater consumption of specific drugs (Marihuana, khat etc.) in those communities.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    , @athEIst
    @Altai

    A young single man with poor job prospects is the most alienated form of being.

    There must be a sizable fraction of a billion of these. You can count them when they arrive. It won't be long now.

  8. @Alden
    The pro criminal jury pool of Alameda county Ca consists of Oakland Pittsburgh Berkeley and other Alameda black ghetto towns. There were almost none of these useless sub species in Alameda county in 1939. By 1942 tens of thousands had been brought in to work in war industry.
    At least Eastern Europe is free of the Soviet communists who took over their countries as a result of WW2. American states cities and towns that had been almost free of blacks in 1939 are still being damaged and destroyed by the black migration of WW2.

    Replies: @1661er, @bomag, @Rob McX

    Assuming you mean Pittsburg, it’s in Contra Costa County, not Alameda county.

    They can always move the trial to east side of Alameda County, like Dublin/Livemore, or even the island city of Alameda to more sane juries.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @1661er

    I didn’t know Pittsburg was in Contra Costa. Given the crime rate and demographic I just assumed it was in Alameda.

  9. Kendrex White, the 2017 University of Texas at Austin stabber, was found not guilty by reason of insanity and sentenced to a maximum security state hospital for an undetermined amount of time.

  10. @Lot
    Reminder: third world migration drastically increases the population of violently mentally ill people.

    2007 study in Alameda County: children of black mothers 3 times more likely to be psychotic.

    https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/36/4/751/665657

    The statistical quality of this study is very high BTW.

    It notes in the “background” section that

    “ Immigrant groups in Western Europe have markedly increased rates of schizophrenia. The highest rates are found in ethnic groups that are predominantly black. ”

    Anong children receiving emergency psych treatment:

    “ a diagnosis of schizophrenia or psychosis was 3.3 times more likely for African Americans and 2.9 times more likely for Latinos than for their white counterparts.”

    “ A very high risk of schizophrenia has also been reported for Moroccan males in the Netherlands.”

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17278906/

    Replies: @Altai, @Triumph104, @TelfoedJohn, @Mr McKenna, @AnotherDad, @Corvinus

    If you are a black man in Britain, you are 17 times more likely to be diagnosed with a serious mental health condition and six times more likely than a white man to be an inpatient in a mental health unit.

    https://www.thefader.com/2016/09/26/black-british-mental-health-keith-dube-bbc-three

  11. Pablo gets to live in a place where average per inmate healthcare expenditure is $26k/year, total cost is $80k/year…
    https://lao.ca.gov/policyareas/cj/6_cj_inmatecost

    What a country and a state!

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @eah
    @indocon

    In a first, California agrees to pay for transgender inmate’s sex reassignment


    California is first in the nation to agree to pay for a transgender inmate’s sex reassignment operation, but the state’s settlement of a recent court case sidesteps the question of whether such surgery is a constitutional right. ...

    The state concedes that Shiloh Quine, who entered the California prison system in 1980 as Rodney, suffers severe gender dysphoria that can be treated only by physically conforming her body to her psychological gender.

    The agreement to settle Quine’s federal lawsuit seeking the surgery was announced late Friday, with a brief statement from the corrections department that “every medical doctor and mental health clinician who has reviewed this case, including two independent mental health experts, determined that this surgery is medically necessary for Quine.”

    Quine’s victory was made possible by another inmate, Michelle Norsworthy, born as Jeffrey, who in April won a federal court order for surgery to reshape her genitals. Gov. Jerry Brown on Friday allowed a parole grant for Norsworthy instead, making that ruling moot days before an appellate panel was to hear California’s legal challenge.
     
    Parolee has sex-reassignment surgery after years of battling state

    Norsworthy was born male and served as a medical specialist in the Army National Guard as Jeffrey Norsworthy. In 1985 Norsworthy fatally shot a man after an argument at a bar in Buena Park (Orange County). A jury returned a conviction of second-degree murder, and Norsworthy was sentenced to 17 years to life in prison in 1987.

    “I went to prison because I had spent my whole life denying who I was — overly male ways, carrying guns, being a tough guy,” she said in an interview last year.
     

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @bomag

    , @HammerJack
    @indocon

    Within a generation, figures like "They" will not only be free, they will be fêted as heroes of La Raza. Pioneering freedom fighters against the nearly-extinct Anglos.

  12. Altai [AKA "Altai_4"] says:

    Inman said he also wondered whether the case might actually have gone to trial had the murder happened somewhere other than Alameda County, with its particular jury pool.

    What did he mean by this? Seriously, is he implying the highish (High by national US standards not necessary by Californian standards) Hispanic population or the Berkleyites, or the combination of the two? The article seems to imply we should know.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Altai

    He meant the Oakland Berkeley and other blacks who won’t convict anyone. Just one would would prevent a guilty verdict. Alameda is notorious in California for its pro criminal black juries.

    Oakland used to have riots marches demonstrations and bellowing black preachers and politicians when a black was charged with murder rape or battery with serious injury of a White victim.

    100 years ago Oakland was considered a better place to live than San Francisco, better weather, bigger lots and houses better views in some places, vegetable gardens and fruit trees.

    Then the Black Plague arrived.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  13. Undoubtedly, Gomez murdered Elizabeth Inman because of a deep seated primal Reptilian brain stem rage in the purely envious realisation that Inman represented everything Gomez wanted to be but could never be.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Anonymous

    He probably went to the friends house to get more drugs. He found the friend moved. the new resident didn’t have any drugs and killed her. Had he stayed at the party he might have killed one of his druggie buddies.

    How horrible, answer the door, explain the previous tenant moved and be stabbed to death by this satanic weirdo.

    , @Sean
    @Anonymous


    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jtes/a-murder-in-berkeley-gave-the-far-right-its-perfect-perp

    Gomez’s old tweets about white people began surfacing in Twitter circles where Coulter and Cernovich reigned. “Why the fuck do white people always think they’re the victims do you not understand you are the world’s #1 perpetrators,” Gomez tweeted in March 2014. Two years later: “i believe (white) ‘america’ is still a young twisted fantasy too evil for fruition.” Inconsequential Twitter exchanges with Black Lives Matter leader DeRay Mckesson became smoking guns. [...] The Unz Review’s Steve Sailer later raised similar questions about Gomez’s motive (with a dramatic emphasis on pronouns). “How much evidence is there that They’s stabby outburst consisted of hate crimes?” Sailer wrote. “Was They motivated by hatred of whites, the female sex, heterosexuals, or what?”
     
    He is no more mad than García Zárate.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  14. So, the court decided They was perfectly sane and of sound mind up until when They did the murder- and it was just the party drugs alone which led to They’s ‘violent psychotic break with reality’.

    Okaaay!

    But not bad for Woke-ifornia- when I was half-expecting him (oops!) to be let off and join Kate Steinle’s killer on the streets. (But I don’t rule out some future restorative-justice Dem pardoning him…).

    • Replies: @athEIst
    @Ano

    Cartoonish is not the aroma I got. Wasn't Tom looking (paying) for some celebrity endorsements?

  15. Wanting to be identified by a “they” pronoun is a clear sign of insanity. Poor girl. What a waste.

  16. @1661er
    @Alden

    Assuming you mean Pittsburg, it's in Contra Costa County, not Alameda county.

    They can always move the trial to east side of Alameda County, like Dublin/Livemore, or even the island city of Alameda to more sane juries.

    Replies: @Alden

    I didn’t know Pittsburg was in Contra Costa. Given the crime rate and demographic I just assumed it was in Alameda.

  17. GermanReader2 [AKA "GermanReader2_new"] says:
    @Altai
    @Lot

    It was first noted about the initial waves of 'Windrush' generation Jamaicans in London and other large cities had conspicuously higher levels of schizophrenia, particularly among the young single men. ('The Lonely Londoners') Social isolation and estrangement from the broader society are seemingly some of the primary environmental risk factors for schizophrenia.

    I wonder if the populations involved might hint at this being largely sociological with young men from these groups in the countries mentioned often filling a particular socio-economic niche and live in precarious social environments with much less hope for social advancement. A young single man with poor job prospects is the most alienated form of being.

    Replies: @GermanReader2, @athEIst

    I think a great part of it can be attributed to the greater consumption of specific drugs (Marihuana, khat etc.) in those communities.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @GermanReader2


    I think a great part of it can be attributed to the greater consumption of specific drugs (Marihuana, khat etc.) in those communities.
     
    Definitely. But the fact that cannabis usage is associated with much higher rates of schizophrenia is one of the many things we're not supposed to notice these days.

    Replies: @Jack D

  18. @Altai

    Inman said he also wondered whether the case might actually have gone to trial had the murder happened somewhere other than Alameda County, with its particular jury pool.
     
    What did he mean by this? Seriously, is he implying the highish (High by national US standards not necessary by Californian standards) Hispanic population or the Berkleyites, or the combination of the two? The article seems to imply we should know.

    Replies: @Alden

    He meant the Oakland Berkeley and other blacks who won’t convict anyone. Just one would would prevent a guilty verdict. Alameda is notorious in California for its pro criminal black juries.

    Oakland used to have riots marches demonstrations and bellowing black preachers and politicians when a black was charged with murder rape or battery with serious injury of a White victim.

    100 years ago Oakland was considered a better place to live than San Francisco, better weather, bigger lots and houses better views in some places, vegetable gardens and fruit trees.

    Then the Black Plague arrived.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Alden


    100 years ago Oakland was considered a better place to live than San Francisco, better weather, bigger lots and houses better views in some places, vegetable gardens and fruit trees.
     
    In Cheaper By the Dozen, the Gilbreths write of their mother's nostalgia for the Oakland she grew up in.

    And they lived in Upper Montclair, New Jersey, which is pretty tony itself. I printed off the 1930 census page for my stepdad's brother-in-law, who spent his childhood there-- with servant girls from Ireland and Germany.
  19. @Anonymous
    Undoubtedly, Gomez murdered Elizabeth Inman because of a deep seated primal Reptilian brain stem rage in the purely envious realisation that Inman represented everything Gomez wanted to be but could never be.

    Replies: @Alden, @Sean

    He probably went to the friends house to get more drugs. He found the friend moved. the new resident didn’t have any drugs and killed her. Had he stayed at the party he might have killed one of his druggie buddies.

    How horrible, answer the door, explain the previous tenant moved and be stabbed to death by this satanic weirdo.

  20. I notice that Berleyside carefully avoided referring to Gomez by a pronoun – not annoying the woke, and not appearing idiotic.

    The judge used “he”. I wonder whether Gomez can now appeal on the grounds of bias and “dead-naming?

  21. @Lot
    Reminder: third world migration drastically increases the population of violently mentally ill people.

    2007 study in Alameda County: children of black mothers 3 times more likely to be psychotic.

    https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/36/4/751/665657

    The statistical quality of this study is very high BTW.

    It notes in the “background” section that

    “ Immigrant groups in Western Europe have markedly increased rates of schizophrenia. The highest rates are found in ethnic groups that are predominantly black. ”

    Anong children receiving emergency psych treatment:

    “ a diagnosis of schizophrenia or psychosis was 3.3 times more likely for African Americans and 2.9 times more likely for Latinos than for their white counterparts.”

    “ A very high risk of schizophrenia has also been reported for Moroccan males in the Netherlands.”

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17278906/

    Replies: @Altai, @Triumph104, @TelfoedJohn, @Mr McKenna, @AnotherDad, @Corvinus

    I’m sure some of this is due to not being in an environment and climate which matches the ancestral one. The Scots-Irish in the southern states are not known for being functional. Neither are northern state blacks. Probably vitamin d deficiency in the latter: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323919.php#1

    • Replies: @Pheasant
    @TelfoedJohn

    The Scots Irish occupy the cooler hills and mountains. Many are perfectly functional. Not everyone is a hillbilly caricature.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @TelfoedJohn


    I’m sure some of this is due to not being in an environment and climate which matches the ancestral one. The Scots-Irish in the southern states are not known for being functional.
     
    First of all, a great many of them live/lived in the Appalachian mountains and foothills, a lot closer to their home climate than the deep South lowlands. Secondly, the Scot-Irish settled and built-up a whole lot of States, so "not known for being functional" is, in your parlance, rubbish.
  22. Not to worry, when Steyer wins he will pardon Gomez and appoint they as Secretary of Diversity.

  23. @Lot
    Reminder: third world migration drastically increases the population of violently mentally ill people.

    2007 study in Alameda County: children of black mothers 3 times more likely to be psychotic.

    https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/36/4/751/665657

    The statistical quality of this study is very high BTW.

    It notes in the “background” section that

    “ Immigrant groups in Western Europe have markedly increased rates of schizophrenia. The highest rates are found in ethnic groups that are predominantly black. ”

    Anong children receiving emergency psych treatment:

    “ a diagnosis of schizophrenia or psychosis was 3.3 times more likely for African Americans and 2.9 times more likely for Latinos than for their white counterparts.”

    “ A very high risk of schizophrenia has also been reported for Moroccan males in the Netherlands.”

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17278906/

    Replies: @Altai, @Triumph104, @TelfoedJohn, @Mr McKenna, @AnotherDad, @Corvinus

    Good info, of a sort. Our Vibrant Future; increasingly Our Vibrant Present.

    And it’s truly the gift that will keep on giving, over and over.

    UC Berkeley activist

    Yes. One among many.

    • Agree: ic1000
  24. These parts of the story deserver emphasis:

    A devastating murder case concluded Friday in Alameda County Superior Court with a judge finding Pablo Gomez Jr. not guilty by reason of insanity and confining the convicted killer to a state mental hospital for 39 years to life. …

    Clay expressed deep sympathy for those in attendance and said they had made it clear what a remarkable woman Emilie Inman was. He pushed back, however, on the idea that Gomez could be held legally responsible for the murder.

    Clay called Inman’s murder “a senseless death by a young man who was insane.” He promised Inman’s family and friends that Gomez would never walk free again. …

    Clay’s remarks seemed in possible contrast, however, to the law. Several people familiar with the ruling in the case have said a “not guilty by reason of insanity” finding means someone could one day be released from a mental institution if they are no longer considered a danger to society.

    Alameda County is the same jurisdiction that let off the bike lock head basher Eric Clanton despite the massive evidence against him — he seriously injured several people.

    After following the link and reading the story, I feel terribly sorry for this family — while perhaps inappropriate, I will now add: I hope at least they are now in some way ‘pilled’ after seeing how the Establishment feels about and treats people like them (“The timing of the legal process, he said, is all about the perpetrator’s rights.”).

    Did the court use the defendant’s preferred pronouns?

    • Replies: @eah
    @eah

    Friends remember Emilie Inman: ‘No one loved as hard’

    We constantly hear about rightwing 'hate speech' and its potential consequences which is why it must be censored blah blah -- but who helped coddle and sustain the psychotic delusions of this nutcase?

    https://i.postimg.cc/bNycCj2g/mitgeschubst.png

    Replies: @eah

    , @HammerJack
    @eah


    (“The timing of the legal process, he said, is all about the perpetrator’s rights.”)
     
    The timing, and much else. If you've ever been through or even near that particular buzz saw, you'll know the truth of this.

    Replies: @Jack Henson

    , @bomag
    @eah


    I hope at least they are now in some way ‘pilled’...
     
    And I hope it "pills" others who hear about the case.

    "They" seems primed for a release; either on appeal, or one of the usual institution-emptying spasms we get from our rulers.

    Replies: @BB753, @Jack D

  25. We need a Committee For Humane Euthanasia for ending the suffering of of They.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Redneck farmer

    It's known as a firing squad.

  26. “ Immigrant groups in Western Europe have markedly increased rates of schizophrenia. The highest rates are found in ethnic groups that are predominantly black. ”

    And to put it even more plain, a large number of people leaving the land of their birth (male, single, frustrated) are likely to be misfits wherever they go. (This includes Ellis Island Americans from various places a century ago.)

    “Taking in refugees” and buying a crappy used car are equivalent: A disaster waiting to happen.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Franz

    I agree. The ship company advertised in Jamaica newspapers that there was a massive labor shortage in Britain. So the unemployed left Jamaica. Plus, many were criminals in trouble with the law or other criminals. It’s interesting that within about 5 years the Windrush men became known as the worst kind of pimps.

    Successful conformist people stay. Immigrants tend to be losers or rebels. There was a song in early California about the American immigrants many of whom had criminal records back east.

    What did you do in the east you beast
    Did you kill your wife
    Did you use a gun or a knife

    That’s all I remember. It went on and on about embezzlement robbery and crime committed back east.

  27. @Anonymous
    Undoubtedly, Gomez murdered Elizabeth Inman because of a deep seated primal Reptilian brain stem rage in the purely envious realisation that Inman represented everything Gomez wanted to be but could never be.

    Replies: @Alden, @Sean

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jtes/a-murder-in-berkeley-gave-the-far-right-its-perfect-perp

    Gomez’s old tweets about white people began surfacing in Twitter circles where Coulter and Cernovich reigned. “Why the fuck do white people always think they’re the victims do you not understand you are the world’s #1 perpetrators,” Gomez tweeted in March 2014. Two years later: “i believe (white) ‘america’ is still a young twisted fantasy too evil for fruition.” Inconsequential Twitter exchanges with Black Lives Matter leader DeRay Mckesson became smoking guns. […] The Unz Review’s Steve Sailer later raised similar questions about Gomez’s motive (with a dramatic emphasis on pronouns). “How much evidence is there that They’s stabby outburst consisted of hate crimes?” Sailer wrote. “Was They motivated by hatred of whites, the female sex, heterosexuals, or what?”

    He is no more mad than García Zárate.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Sean

    "Gomez’s old tweets about white people began surfacing in Twitter circles where Coulter and Cernovich reigned."

    The Sin Of Noticing.

  28. OT

    As some may know, Saira Rao, who presents herself on Twitter as a professional white people hater, ran for Congress in CO — in doing so, she filed a financial disclosure statement — part of that is reproduced in the image below.

    At the following link there is an interesting Twitter thread about the finances of Rao and her husband; they apparently live in a multi-million dollar home in an exclusive Denver neighborhood that is 90% white –> link

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @eah

    Who knew being a hypocritical wokester could be so profitable!

    Replies: @eah

    , @J.Ross
    @eah

    Fantastic, worth a post, or a reference the next time Rao comes up. Reminder that Rao was the first Twit to blame a recent Californian shooting, committed by a hapa, on white supremacy. She must like living dangerously.

  29. @Mr. Anon
    Just this evening, I saw a political ad featuring Tom Steyer. He's the man who can beat Trump, so he said. I hope that picture of Steyer palling around with with the murdering "They" features prominently in Mike Bloomberg's ads.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Don’t think attacking Steyer is a priority for Bloomberg or any other Dem candidate; he’s at about 1% in the polls.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Hibernian


    Don’t think attacking Steyer is a priority for Bloomberg or any other Dem candidate; he’s at about 1% in the polls.
     
    That high?

    Replies: @anon

  30. Several people familiar with the ruling in the case have said a “not guilty by reason of insanity” finding means someone could one day be released from a mental institution if they are no longer considered a danger to society.

    Is this some kind of Bill of Attainder, written just for They Gomez, or is it just the usual improper English?

    In a recent phone conversation, Inman’s father, Scott, told Berkeleyside that the court process had taken a heavy toll on the family’s physical and mental health.

    Uh oh ….

    Jack D. could probably weigh in on this, but I think that bit about going straight to jail after being declared sane at any point is pretty bogus. I’ve never heard of that. Were that policy the case, then the sentence would have to include it, and also, one wouldn’t hear all the rightful complaining about these insanity defense pleas that have a lot of violent criminals back out onto the street in no time.

    BTW, what’s with this new spelling of Emily? Both the article writer and the victim have this same misspelling. Someone should fix spell-check before another generation of “Emilies” is mis-christened.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Unless this was actually in the judge's sentence (and not just something spoken from the bench) that's not what happens according to the law. Not guilty means you didn't commit a crime. The state is holding you not to punish you but to assure the safety of the public due to your insanity. If you are "cured" and are no longer a danger, they are supposed to let you go.

    I think what the judge was trying to say was that he had sentenced him to a minimum of 39 years of confinement. If within those 39 years he was found to be better, they would still keep him locked up somewhere. After 39 years, who cares? They are probably not going to let him go anyway, but American sentences are absurdly long by European standards and even by past American historical standards. I think this has to do with the lack of an enforceable death penalty. In the old days, either they would execute you or they would let you go after 10 or 15 years. Now you have all these people who should have been executed but whom we are never letting go and we keep at tremendous expense.

    , @1661er
    @Achmed E. Newman

    She was born in France, so it's just plain old French spelling that they didn't bother to change since they don't pass through Ellis Island anymore.

    , @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Upon reading further, Gomez was NOT found "not guilty by reason of insanity". Berkeleyside, as usual, is wrong.

    Rather, according to SFGate , a slightly more reputable source, Gomez pleaded "no contest" (which is effectively the same thing as a guilty plea) to murder and the judge sentenced they to 39 to life BUT with the added twist that their sentence be served at a mental institution rather than a prison.

    This is completely different than a finding of "not guilty by reason of insanity". If you are not guilty by reason of insanity then you are, as I said before, not guilty and therefore the state cannot hold you the minute that it is determined that you are no longer insane. How, they is convicted of murder and the state can continue to hold him in accordance with the judge's original sentence unless he is paroled or pardoned. Just as the judge said, if they no longer requires treatment then they will transfer they to prison. They is sentenced to a term of years and the only question is whether they will serve that sentence in a locked mental facility or a prison. Going free is not a choice. However it should be noted that California has time off for good behavior which can take up to 1/2 off your sentence so they could hypothetically be out in as early as 19 years. However, they has up to a life sentence so if the parole board decides that parole is not merited, they can keep him forever.


    https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/Man-Sentenced-To-Mental-Facility-For-Brutal-14857249.php

    Replies: @Yngvar

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Is this some kind of Bill of Attainder, written just for They Gomez, or is it just the usual improper English?
     
    That would be more just, but would never happen. It is proscribed by Article I, Section 9, Clause 3 of the Constitution. OTOH if I were Trump, I would issue two letters of marque and reprisal to the Inmans. One for 'They' and one for Clay. And no, I don't care if only Congress can issue them.
    , @Alden
    @Achmed E. Newman

    When I was in California law enforcement they were released as soon as some liberal psychologists declared them cured of their insanity. Don’t know how it is now. It’s true that every day they aren’t written up counts as good behavior so all prisoners generally serve half time.

    Plus there’s some federal judicial order that California prisoners SHALL be released when the number of prisoners exceeds a certain number in the prison. At least murder is considered a violent crime.

  31. @indocon
    Pablo gets to live in a place where average per inmate healthcare expenditure is $26k/year, total cost is $80k/year...
    https://lao.ca.gov/policyareas/cj/6_cj_inmatecost

    What a country and a state!

    Replies: @eah, @HammerJack

    In a first, California agrees to pay for transgender inmate’s sex reassignment

    California is first in the nation to agree to pay for a transgender inmate’s sex reassignment operation, but the state’s settlement of a recent court case sidesteps the question of whether such surgery is a constitutional right. …

    The state concedes that Shiloh Quine, who entered the California prison system in 1980 as Rodney, suffers severe gender dysphoria that can be treated only by physically conforming her body to her psychological gender.

    The agreement to settle Quine’s federal lawsuit seeking the surgery was announced late Friday, with a brief statement from the corrections department that “every medical doctor and mental health clinician who has reviewed this case, including two independent mental health experts, determined that this surgery is medically necessary for Quine.”

    Quine’s victory was made possible by another inmate, Michelle Norsworthy, born as Jeffrey, who in April won a federal court order for surgery to reshape her genitals. Gov. Jerry Brown on Friday allowed a parole grant for Norsworthy instead, making that ruling moot days before an appellate panel was to hear California’s legal challenge.

    Parolee has sex-reassignment surgery after years of battling state

    Norsworthy was born male and served as a medical specialist in the Army National Guard as Jeffrey Norsworthy. In 1985 Norsworthy fatally shot a man after an argument at a bar in Buena Park (Orange County). A jury returned a conviction of second-degree murder, and Norsworthy was sentenced to 17 years to life in prison in 1987.

    “I went to prison because I had spent my whole life denying who I was — overly male ways, carrying guns, being a tough guy,” she said in an interview last year.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @eah


    The state concedes that Shiloh Quine, who entered the California prison system in 1980 as Rodney, suffers severe gender dysphoria that can be treated only by physically conforming her body to her psychological gender.
     
    Can't we all just get a dong?
    , @bomag
    @eah


    The agreement to settle Quine’s federal lawsuit...
     
    So someone who entered the Cali prison system in 1980 now has the resources to sue the state via a federal lawsuit.

    ...precedent has been set, [gloated the victors; the state wallet has been opened; let the deluge begin.]
    “This is clearly where the law is going and where the entire health industry is going,” said Ilona Turner, legal director at the Transgender Law Center in Oakland, which handled the cases of Norsworthy and Quine.
     
    And Quine gets transferred to a women's prison.

    Replies: @Alden, @eah

  32. @Alden
    The pro criminal jury pool of Alameda county Ca consists of Oakland Pittsburgh Berkeley and other Alameda black ghetto towns. There were almost none of these useless sub species in Alameda county in 1939. By 1942 tens of thousands had been brought in to work in war industry.
    At least Eastern Europe is free of the Soviet communists who took over their countries as a result of WW2. American states cities and towns that had been almost free of blacks in 1939 are still being damaged and destroyed by the black migration of WW2.

    Replies: @1661er, @bomag, @Rob McX

    …still being damaged and destroyed by the black migration of WW2.

    Makes one reconsider, some more, the consequences of WWII, along with the ongoing efforts to “make the world safe for democracy” (Wilson’s WWI phrase, invoked by FDR); our resulting world policeman status; and our efforts to accommodate the world’s problems.

    In FDR’s 1941 State of the Union, famous for laying out the four freedoms, he mused that No realistic American can expect from [an Axis victory] international generosity, or return of true independence, or world disarmament, or freedom of expression, or freedom of religion–or even good business.

    Considering that today “international generosity” means we have to take in other country’s migrants; that we don’t seem particularly independent with all our interlaced agreements; the world is hardly disarmed; freedom of expression and religion is tattered; and that business has gone the way of oligarchy, remind me again who won WWII?

  33. Sounds like someone got mugged by reality.

    Hope this family finds peace, contra Paul Tibbets who thinks tacos in Iowa were an even trade for his daughter’s life.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack Henson

    Rob Tibbets. Paul died a dozen years back with no regrets about piloting Enola Gay.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/aug/06/nuclear.japan


    Truman walked in and everybody stood on their feet. He said, "Sit down, please," and he had a big smile on his face and he said, "General Spaatz, I want to congratulate you on being first chief of the air force," because it was no longer the air corps. Spaatz said, "Thank you, sir, it's a great honour and I appreciate it." And he said to Doolittle: "That was a magnificent thing you pulled flying off of that carrier," and Doolittle said, "All in a day's work, Mr President." And he looked at Dave Shillen and said, "Colonel Shillen, I want to congratulate you on having the foresight to recognise the potential in aerial refuelling. We're gonna need it bad some day." And he said thank you very much.

    Then he looked at me for 10 seconds and he didn't say anything. And when he finally did, he said, "What do you think?" I said, "Mr President, I think I did what I was told." He slapped his hand on the table and said: "You're damn right you did, and I'm the guy who sent you. If anybody gives you a hard time about it, refer them to me."
     

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  34. @indocon
    Pablo gets to live in a place where average per inmate healthcare expenditure is $26k/year, total cost is $80k/year...
    https://lao.ca.gov/policyareas/cj/6_cj_inmatecost

    What a country and a state!

    Replies: @eah, @HammerJack

    Within a generation, figures like “They” will not only be free, they will be fêted as heroes of La Raza. Pioneering freedom fighters against the nearly-extinct Anglos.

  35. Hey Ron – here’s another clue as to how Hispanic crime rates are artificially reduced. This queer mestizo is not guilty of murder, see? Statistically, he is one less mestizo murderer, and all that matters is “Hispanics” are almost as crime free as whites! Nothing to see here, gringo!

  36. @Anonymous
    How does a state that says a man with a wig is a 'woman' determine what is or isn't insane?

    Btw, if Gomez is a 'they', and if one of 'them' killed the girl, is it fair to lock up ALL of 'them' along with the one of 'them' that is the real murderer?

    Replies: @El Dato

  37. @Redneck farmer
    We need a Committee For Humane Euthanasia for ending the suffering of of They.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike

    It’s known as a firing squad.

  38. @eah
    OT

    As some may know, Saira Rao, who presents herself on Twitter as a professional white people hater, ran for Congress in CO -- in doing so, she filed a financial disclosure statement -- part of that is reproduced in the image below.

    At the following link there is an interesting Twitter thread about the finances of Rao and her husband; they apparently live in a multi-million dollar home in an exclusive Denver neighborhood that is 90% white --> link
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHVS_hWXkAQJ5gF.jpg

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @J.Ross

    Who knew being a hypocritical wokester could be so profitable!

    • Replies: @eah
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    The money seems to come mostly from her husband, who is in finance -- see the Twitter thread.

  39. @TelfoedJohn
    @Lot

    I’m sure some of this is due to not being in an environment and climate which matches the ancestral one. The Scots-Irish in the southern states are not known for being functional. Neither are northern state blacks. Probably vitamin d deficiency in the latter: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323919.php#1

    Replies: @Pheasant, @Achmed E. Newman

    The Scots Irish occupy the cooler hills and mountains. Many are perfectly functional. Not everyone is a hillbilly caricature.

    • Agree: Alden
  40. @eah
    These parts of the story deserver emphasis:

    A devastating murder case concluded Friday in Alameda County Superior Court with a judge finding Pablo Gomez Jr. not guilty by reason of insanity and confining the convicted killer to a state mental hospital for 39 years to life. ...

    Clay expressed deep sympathy for those in attendance and said they had made it clear what a remarkable woman Emilie Inman was. He pushed back, however, on the idea that Gomez could be held legally responsible for the murder. ...

    Clay called Inman’s murder “a senseless death by a young man who was insane.” He promised Inman’s family and friends that Gomez would never walk free again. ...

    Clay’s remarks seemed in possible contrast, however, to the law. Several people familiar with the ruling in the case have said a “not guilty by reason of insanity” finding means someone could one day be released from a mental institution if they are no longer considered a danger to society.
     
    Alameda County is the same jurisdiction that let off the bike lock head basher Eric Clanton despite the massive evidence against him -- he seriously injured several people.

    After following the link and reading the story, I feel terribly sorry for this family -- while perhaps inappropriate, I will now add: I hope at least they are now in some way 'pilled' after seeing how the Establishment feels about and treats people like them ("The timing of the legal process, he said, is all about the perpetrator’s rights.").

    Did the court use the defendant's preferred pronouns?

    Replies: @eah, @HammerJack, @bomag

    Friends remember Emilie Inman: ‘No one loved as hard’

    We constantly hear about rightwing ‘hate speech’ and its potential consequences which is why it must be censored blah blah — but who helped coddle and sustain the psychotic delusions of this nutcase?

    • Replies: @eah
    @eah

    A short video of Emilie Inman singing (on the road in France; she was born in France) --> link

  41. This reminds me of Dan Roodts writings on hybridity. He says that contrary to the multicultural ideal, that people of mixed race (in South Africa namely the coloureds) suffer from a lack of a concrete identity and end up hating those who have a lineage and connection they do not posses. They have higher rates of mental illness and drug abuse etc.

    Maybe this person (pronouns are stupid) resented Whites because he had a mixed up identity (I do not think it is a coincidence he asked to be called ‘they’,dissasociation is a sure sign of mental illness). I cannot tell what racial make up he was and maybe thats my point.

    Anyway I do not think he is insane in the classical sense. Resentment seemed to be more his problem by the look of his twitter comments.

  42. @eah
    These parts of the story deserver emphasis:

    A devastating murder case concluded Friday in Alameda County Superior Court with a judge finding Pablo Gomez Jr. not guilty by reason of insanity and confining the convicted killer to a state mental hospital for 39 years to life. ...

    Clay expressed deep sympathy for those in attendance and said they had made it clear what a remarkable woman Emilie Inman was. He pushed back, however, on the idea that Gomez could be held legally responsible for the murder. ...

    Clay called Inman’s murder “a senseless death by a young man who was insane.” He promised Inman’s family and friends that Gomez would never walk free again. ...

    Clay’s remarks seemed in possible contrast, however, to the law. Several people familiar with the ruling in the case have said a “not guilty by reason of insanity” finding means someone could one day be released from a mental institution if they are no longer considered a danger to society.
     
    Alameda County is the same jurisdiction that let off the bike lock head basher Eric Clanton despite the massive evidence against him -- he seriously injured several people.

    After following the link and reading the story, I feel terribly sorry for this family -- while perhaps inappropriate, I will now add: I hope at least they are now in some way 'pilled' after seeing how the Establishment feels about and treats people like them ("The timing of the legal process, he said, is all about the perpetrator’s rights.").

    Did the court use the defendant's preferred pronouns?

    Replies: @eah, @HammerJack, @bomag

    (“The timing of the legal process, he said, is all about the perpetrator’s rights.”)

    The timing, and much else. If you’ve ever been through or even near that particular buzz saw, you’ll know the truth of this.

    • Replies: @Jack Henson
    @HammerJack

    Very true. A close family member was murdered and the pre-trial dragged on for over two years as the defendant changed lawyers, asked for continuance, fired and rehired his friend, all to plead guilty to murder in the second and be given 30 years by the (((judge))). You'll be amazed at how a judge will bend over backwards for a criminal but then take a missed court date by a member of the family as a sign that the family has "moved on".

  43. @Achmed E. Newman

    Several people familiar with the ruling in the case have said a “not guilty by reason of insanity” finding means someone could one day be released from a mental institution if they are no longer considered a danger to society.
     
    Is this some kind of Bill of Attainder, written just for They Gomez, or is it just the usual improper English?

    In a recent phone conversation, Inman’s father, Scott, told Berkeleyside that the court process had taken a heavy toll on the family’s physical and mental health.
     
    Uh oh ....

    Jack D. could probably weigh in on this, but I think that bit about going straight to jail after being declared sane at any point is pretty bogus. I've never heard of that. Were that policy the case, then the sentence would have to include it, and also, one wouldn't hear all the rightful complaining about these insanity defense pleas that have a lot of violent criminals back out onto the street in no time.

    BTW, what's with this new spelling of Emily? Both the article writer and the victim have this same misspelling. Someone should fix spell-check before another generation of "Emilies" is mis-christened.

    Replies: @Jack D, @1661er, @Jack D, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Alden

    Unless this was actually in the judge’s sentence (and not just something spoken from the bench) that’s not what happens according to the law. Not guilty means you didn’t commit a crime. The state is holding you not to punish you but to assure the safety of the public due to your insanity. If you are “cured” and are no longer a danger, they are supposed to let you go.

    I think what the judge was trying to say was that he had sentenced him to a minimum of 39 years of confinement. If within those 39 years he was found to be better, they would still keep him locked up somewhere. After 39 years, who cares? They are probably not going to let him go anyway, but American sentences are absurdly long by European standards and even by past American historical standards. I think this has to do with the lack of an enforceable death penalty. In the old days, either they would execute you or they would let you go after 10 or 15 years. Now you have all these people who should have been executed but whom we are never letting go and we keep at tremendous expense.

  44. @Sean
    @Anonymous


    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jtes/a-murder-in-berkeley-gave-the-far-right-its-perfect-perp

    Gomez’s old tweets about white people began surfacing in Twitter circles where Coulter and Cernovich reigned. “Why the fuck do white people always think they’re the victims do you not understand you are the world’s #1 perpetrators,” Gomez tweeted in March 2014. Two years later: “i believe (white) ‘america’ is still a young twisted fantasy too evil for fruition.” Inconsequential Twitter exchanges with Black Lives Matter leader DeRay Mckesson became smoking guns. [...] The Unz Review’s Steve Sailer later raised similar questions about Gomez’s motive (with a dramatic emphasis on pronouns). “How much evidence is there that They’s stabby outburst consisted of hate crimes?” Sailer wrote. “Was They motivated by hatred of whites, the female sex, heterosexuals, or what?”
     
    He is no more mad than García Zárate.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “Gomez’s old tweets about white people began surfacing in Twitter circles where Coulter and Cernovich reigned.”

    The Sin Of Noticing.

  45. @Jack Henson
    Sounds like someone got mugged by reality.

    Hope this family finds peace, contra Paul Tibbets who thinks tacos in Iowa were an even trade for his daughter's life.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Rob Tibbets. Paul died a dozen years back with no regrets about piloting Enola Gay.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/aug/06/nuclear.japan

    Truman walked in and everybody stood on their feet. He said, “Sit down, please,” and he had a big smile on his face and he said, “General Spaatz, I want to congratulate you on being first chief of the air force,” because it was no longer the air corps. Spaatz said, “Thank you, sir, it’s a great honour and I appreciate it.” And he said to Doolittle: “That was a magnificent thing you pulled flying off of that carrier,” and Doolittle said, “All in a day’s work, Mr President.” And he looked at Dave Shillen and said, “Colonel Shillen, I want to congratulate you on having the foresight to recognise the potential in aerial refuelling. We’re gonna need it bad some day.” And he said thank you very much.

    Then he looked at me for 10 seconds and he didn’t say anything. And when he finally did, he said, “What do you think?” I said, “Mr President, I think I did what I was told.” He slapped his hand on the table and said: “You’re damn right you did, and I’m the guy who sent you. If anybody gives you a hard time about it, refer them to me.”

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @YetAnotherAnon

    "And he said to Doolittle: “That was a magnificent thing you pulled flying off of that carrier,” and Doolittle said, “All in a day’s work, Mr President.”"

    Doolittle was just not just a bomber pilot; he flew the GeeBee racing plane in air races, so “All in a day’s work, Mr President” is most certainly appropo.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V_VJblkupE

  46. @TelfoedJohn
    @Lot

    I’m sure some of this is due to not being in an environment and climate which matches the ancestral one. The Scots-Irish in the southern states are not known for being functional. Neither are northern state blacks. Probably vitamin d deficiency in the latter: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323919.php#1

    Replies: @Pheasant, @Achmed E. Newman

    I’m sure some of this is due to not being in an environment and climate which matches the ancestral one. The Scots-Irish in the southern states are not known for being functional.

    First of all, a great many of them live/lived in the Appalachian mountains and foothills, a lot closer to their home climate than the deep South lowlands. Secondly, the Scot-Irish settled and built-up a whole lot of States, so “not known for being functional” is, in your parlance, rubbish.

  47. Detention conditions for the criminally insane are really, really horrible, so he isn’t getting off easy. Pablo has been sentenced to the closest thing to hell on earth in all of California.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Bill P


    Pablo has been sentenced to the closest thing to hell on earth in all of California.
     
    And there is a lot of competition for the title!
    , @Alden
    @Bill P

    They’re not that horrible and according to convicts who’ve been in both prisons for the criminally insane and regular state prisons the prison / hospitals for the criminally insane are much better than the regular prisons in California.

    The best thing about the criminally insane prisons is that they are much much safer than regular prisons. The criminally insane hospitals have more guards, more tranquilizer meds and most important , more security cameras and fewer blank spots with no cameras. According to the ex cons, the danger in regular prisons is the blank spots with no cameras and where the guards can’t see what’s going on.

    The biggest problem for prisoners is not getting get killed or injured by fellow prisoners.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

  48. Tangentially related, the Hard Rock site which collapsed in New Orleans seems to have been, as expected, full of illegal workers.

    https://www.nola.com/news/courts/article_627af538-0d5b-11ea-9658-cbd2f0d63c2a.html

  49. @Alden
    @Altai

    He meant the Oakland Berkeley and other blacks who won’t convict anyone. Just one would would prevent a guilty verdict. Alameda is notorious in California for its pro criminal black juries.

    Oakland used to have riots marches demonstrations and bellowing black preachers and politicians when a black was charged with murder rape or battery with serious injury of a White victim.

    100 years ago Oakland was considered a better place to live than San Francisco, better weather, bigger lots and houses better views in some places, vegetable gardens and fruit trees.

    Then the Black Plague arrived.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    100 years ago Oakland was considered a better place to live than San Francisco, better weather, bigger lots and houses better views in some places, vegetable gardens and fruit trees.

    In Cheaper By the Dozen, the Gilbreths write of their mother’s nostalgia for the Oakland she grew up in.

    And they lived in Upper Montclair, New Jersey, which is pretty tony itself. I printed off the 1930 census page for my stepdad’s brother-in-law, who spent his childhood there– with servant girls from Ireland and Germany.

  50. Hey Mr. Sailer

    I am the executive editor of Berkeleyside, from where this article comes. You have copied too much of the article onto your website, far exceeding the generally accepted notions of aggregation. Please remove about 600 words of the article from this site, and link to Berkeleyside.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Frances Dinkelspiel

    I counted only ~ 150 words just now. How could he remove 600? Lighten up, Frances.

  51. @Achmed E. Newman

    Several people familiar with the ruling in the case have said a “not guilty by reason of insanity” finding means someone could one day be released from a mental institution if they are no longer considered a danger to society.
     
    Is this some kind of Bill of Attainder, written just for They Gomez, or is it just the usual improper English?

    In a recent phone conversation, Inman’s father, Scott, told Berkeleyside that the court process had taken a heavy toll on the family’s physical and mental health.
     
    Uh oh ....

    Jack D. could probably weigh in on this, but I think that bit about going straight to jail after being declared sane at any point is pretty bogus. I've never heard of that. Were that policy the case, then the sentence would have to include it, and also, one wouldn't hear all the rightful complaining about these insanity defense pleas that have a lot of violent criminals back out onto the street in no time.

    BTW, what's with this new spelling of Emily? Both the article writer and the victim have this same misspelling. Someone should fix spell-check before another generation of "Emilies" is mis-christened.

    Replies: @Jack D, @1661er, @Jack D, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Alden

    She was born in France, so it’s just plain old French spelling that they didn’t bother to change since they don’t pass through Ellis Island anymore.

  52. The moral of this sad story:

    Stay away from guyx who call themselves galx.

  53. @eah
    @indocon

    In a first, California agrees to pay for transgender inmate’s sex reassignment


    California is first in the nation to agree to pay for a transgender inmate’s sex reassignment operation, but the state’s settlement of a recent court case sidesteps the question of whether such surgery is a constitutional right. ...

    The state concedes that Shiloh Quine, who entered the California prison system in 1980 as Rodney, suffers severe gender dysphoria that can be treated only by physically conforming her body to her psychological gender.

    The agreement to settle Quine’s federal lawsuit seeking the surgery was announced late Friday, with a brief statement from the corrections department that “every medical doctor and mental health clinician who has reviewed this case, including two independent mental health experts, determined that this surgery is medically necessary for Quine.”

    Quine’s victory was made possible by another inmate, Michelle Norsworthy, born as Jeffrey, who in April won a federal court order for surgery to reshape her genitals. Gov. Jerry Brown on Friday allowed a parole grant for Norsworthy instead, making that ruling moot days before an appellate panel was to hear California’s legal challenge.
     
    Parolee has sex-reassignment surgery after years of battling state

    Norsworthy was born male and served as a medical specialist in the Army National Guard as Jeffrey Norsworthy. In 1985 Norsworthy fatally shot a man after an argument at a bar in Buena Park (Orange County). A jury returned a conviction of second-degree murder, and Norsworthy was sentenced to 17 years to life in prison in 1987.

    “I went to prison because I had spent my whole life denying who I was — overly male ways, carrying guns, being a tough guy,” she said in an interview last year.
     

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @bomag

    The state concedes that Shiloh Quine, who entered the California prison system in 1980 as Rodney, suffers severe gender dysphoria that can be treated only by physically conforming her body to her psychological gender.

    Can’t we all just get a dong?

  54. @Bill P
    Detention conditions for the criminally insane are really, really horrible, so he isn't getting off easy. Pablo has been sentenced to the closest thing to hell on earth in all of California.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    Pablo has been sentenced to the closest thing to hell on earth in all of California.

    And there is a lot of competition for the title!

  55. @Bill P
    Detention conditions for the criminally insane are really, really horrible, so he isn't getting off easy. Pablo has been sentenced to the closest thing to hell on earth in all of California.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Alden

    They’re not that horrible and according to convicts who’ve been in both prisons for the criminally insane and regular state prisons the prison / hospitals for the criminally insane are much better than the regular prisons in California.

    The best thing about the criminally insane prisons is that they are much much safer than regular prisons. The criminally insane hospitals have more guards, more tranquilizer meds and most important , more security cameras and fewer blank spots with no cameras. According to the ex cons, the danger in regular prisons is the blank spots with no cameras and where the guards can’t see what’s going on.

    The biggest problem for prisoners is not getting get killed or injured by fellow prisoners.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @Alden


    According to the ex cons, the danger in regular prisons is the blank spots with no cameras and where the guards can’t see what’s going on.

    The biggest problem for prisoners is not getting get killed or injured by fellow prisoners.
     
    Are regular prisons just underfunded, or is the risk to life and limb a deliberate part of incarceration as punishment?
  56. @Achmed E. Newman

    Several people familiar with the ruling in the case have said a “not guilty by reason of insanity” finding means someone could one day be released from a mental institution if they are no longer considered a danger to society.
     
    Is this some kind of Bill of Attainder, written just for They Gomez, or is it just the usual improper English?

    In a recent phone conversation, Inman’s father, Scott, told Berkeleyside that the court process had taken a heavy toll on the family’s physical and mental health.
     
    Uh oh ....

    Jack D. could probably weigh in on this, but I think that bit about going straight to jail after being declared sane at any point is pretty bogus. I've never heard of that. Were that policy the case, then the sentence would have to include it, and also, one wouldn't hear all the rightful complaining about these insanity defense pleas that have a lot of violent criminals back out onto the street in no time.

    BTW, what's with this new spelling of Emily? Both the article writer and the victim have this same misspelling. Someone should fix spell-check before another generation of "Emilies" is mis-christened.

    Replies: @Jack D, @1661er, @Jack D, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Alden

    Upon reading further, Gomez was NOT found “not guilty by reason of insanity”. Berkeleyside, as usual, is wrong.

    Rather, according to SFGate , a slightly more reputable source, Gomez pleaded “no contest” (which is effectively the same thing as a guilty plea) to murder and the judge sentenced they to 39 to life BUT with the added twist that their sentence be served at a mental institution rather than a prison.

    This is completely different than a finding of “not guilty by reason of insanity”. If you are not guilty by reason of insanity then you are, as I said before, not guilty and therefore the state cannot hold you the minute that it is determined that you are no longer insane. How, they is convicted of murder and the state can continue to hold him in accordance with the judge’s original sentence unless he is paroled or pardoned. Just as the judge said, if they no longer requires treatment then they will transfer they to prison. They is sentenced to a term of years and the only question is whether they will serve that sentence in a locked mental facility or a prison. Going free is not a choice. However it should be noted that California has time off for good behavior which can take up to 1/2 off your sentence so they could hypothetically be out in as early as 19 years. However, they has up to a life sentence so if the parole board decides that parole is not merited, they can keep him forever.

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/Man-Sentenced-To-Mental-Facility-For-Brutal-14857249.php

    • Replies: @Yngvar
    @Jack D

    I assume you write they instead of "They" or Gomez for effect.

    Here in Norway Anders Breivik was sentenced to the maximum allowed 12 years for killing 77 people, but under the psychiatric evaluation rule, so he's never going to be released (hopefully). Killing is a anti-social thing to do so our killers fight tooth and nails against getting a PER-judgement; they want a release date.

    I was astounded by the mention that California still have mental hospitals. Or maybe it is called San Fransisco .

    Replies: @Alden

  57. @Achmed E. Newman

    Several people familiar with the ruling in the case have said a “not guilty by reason of insanity” finding means someone could one day be released from a mental institution if they are no longer considered a danger to society.
     
    Is this some kind of Bill of Attainder, written just for They Gomez, or is it just the usual improper English?

    In a recent phone conversation, Inman’s father, Scott, told Berkeleyside that the court process had taken a heavy toll on the family’s physical and mental health.
     
    Uh oh ....

    Jack D. could probably weigh in on this, but I think that bit about going straight to jail after being declared sane at any point is pretty bogus. I've never heard of that. Were that policy the case, then the sentence would have to include it, and also, one wouldn't hear all the rightful complaining about these insanity defense pleas that have a lot of violent criminals back out onto the street in no time.

    BTW, what's with this new spelling of Emily? Both the article writer and the victim have this same misspelling. Someone should fix spell-check before another generation of "Emilies" is mis-christened.

    Replies: @Jack D, @1661er, @Jack D, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Alden

    Is this some kind of Bill of Attainder, written just for They Gomez, or is it just the usual improper English?

    That would be more just, but would never happen. It is proscribed by Article I, Section 9, Clause 3 of the Constitution. OTOH if I were Trump, I would issue two letters of marque and reprisal to the Inmans. One for ‘They’ and one for Clay. And no, I don’t care if only Congress can issue them.

  58. @Alden
    The pro criminal jury pool of Alameda county Ca consists of Oakland Pittsburgh Berkeley and other Alameda black ghetto towns. There were almost none of these useless sub species in Alameda county in 1939. By 1942 tens of thousands had been brought in to work in war industry.
    At least Eastern Europe is free of the Soviet communists who took over their countries as a result of WW2. American states cities and towns that had been almost free of blacks in 1939 are still being damaged and destroyed by the black migration of WW2.

    Replies: @1661er, @bomag, @Rob McX

    At least Eastern Europe is free of the Soviet communists who took over their countries as a result of WW2.

    Funny how that worked out. We’ve ended up more cucked than the Eastern Europeans ever were. I don’t recall any citizens of communist countries having to pretend they believed a man can have periods.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Rob McX

    Did you see the manifesto from Princeton? They’re distributing free napkins and tampons free to men but not women. It’s their right under the laws of equality or something.

    BUT, as long as the liberals are occupied with this nonsense, they won’t be lowering the age of consent to 3.

    That’s been their goal for a long time.

    Replies: @Jack Henson, @Achmed E. Newman

  59. anon[346] • Disclaimer says:

    Someday “They” will be released. We can count on this, because PoC, maybe because sanity is a social construct. It will be done quietly, with little coverage or fanfare. “They” will probably be placed in some halfway house for a while, then disappear into the homeless population.

    Eventually “They” will kill some other person, but it won’t be anyone rich or politically connected, so just a mere murder statistic. At some point someone will kill “They”, possibly on the street or possibly in some facility. Maybe it will be self defense, maybe it will be something else.

    Because we cannot execute violent, criminal actors like “They”, some other poor people will have to die. But at least the rich can preen themselves about their “compassion”, so I guess it’s all worth it.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @anon

    Pablo was pretty clearly nuts and would not have been executed in America at any time within the last 150 years. Juries are usually unsympathetic to insanity defenses but I think Gomez would have been able to put up a pretty good one. There is no real explanation for why Gomez killed Inman other than the fact that he was nuts - he wasn't trying to rob or rape her, there was no argument, nothing.

    There is certainly a chance that one of his fellow prisoners is going to kill him, in which case he will have gotten exactly what he deserved in your view.

    Replies: @anon, @AnotherDad

  60. @Reg Cæsar
    Berkeleyside is real? I get it confused with Babylon Bee.

    Jerry Brown, Tom Steyer, They
     
    "Tom and Jerry" just add another infusion to the cartoonish aroma wafting through this story.

    Replies: @athEIst, @BenKenobi

    Cartoonish is not the aroma I got. Wasn’t Tom looking (paying) for some celebrity endorsements?

  61. @eah
    @indocon

    In a first, California agrees to pay for transgender inmate’s sex reassignment


    California is first in the nation to agree to pay for a transgender inmate’s sex reassignment operation, but the state’s settlement of a recent court case sidesteps the question of whether such surgery is a constitutional right. ...

    The state concedes that Shiloh Quine, who entered the California prison system in 1980 as Rodney, suffers severe gender dysphoria that can be treated only by physically conforming her body to her psychological gender.

    The agreement to settle Quine’s federal lawsuit seeking the surgery was announced late Friday, with a brief statement from the corrections department that “every medical doctor and mental health clinician who has reviewed this case, including two independent mental health experts, determined that this surgery is medically necessary for Quine.”

    Quine’s victory was made possible by another inmate, Michelle Norsworthy, born as Jeffrey, who in April won a federal court order for surgery to reshape her genitals. Gov. Jerry Brown on Friday allowed a parole grant for Norsworthy instead, making that ruling moot days before an appellate panel was to hear California’s legal challenge.
     
    Parolee has sex-reassignment surgery after years of battling state

    Norsworthy was born male and served as a medical specialist in the Army National Guard as Jeffrey Norsworthy. In 1985 Norsworthy fatally shot a man after an argument at a bar in Buena Park (Orange County). A jury returned a conviction of second-degree murder, and Norsworthy was sentenced to 17 years to life in prison in 1987.

    “I went to prison because I had spent my whole life denying who I was — overly male ways, carrying guns, being a tough guy,” she said in an interview last year.
     

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @bomag

    The agreement to settle Quine’s federal lawsuit…

    So someone who entered the Cali prison system in 1980 now has the resources to sue the state via a federal lawsuit.

    …precedent has been set, [gloated the victors; the state wallet has been opened; let the deluge begin.]
    “This is clearly where the law is going and where the entire health industry is going,” said Ilona Turner, legal director at the Transgender Law Center in Oakland, which handled the cases of Norsworthy and Quine.

    And Quine gets transferred to a women’s prison.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @bomag

    I wonder who funds the transgender law center. Probably the great grand children of the people who funded Faye Stender Charles Garry Huey Newton Angela Davis et al.

    Looks like the entire trans movement is just a marketing device for trans physicians surgeons other medics pharmacists counselors coordinators consultants and attorneys to make a living.

    It’s perfect capitalism. Can’t find a job? Start your own business. Can’t even get a job as a pharmacist clerk? Create a non profit and become a coordinator of trans services.

    We need to start a movement for insurance paid free facelifts, hair trans plants, liposuction, implants, body sculpting and steroid muscles for baby boomers

    Replies: @Pontius

    , @eah
    @bomag

    said Ilona Turner, legal director at the Transgender Law Center in Oakland

    Here is the 2017 tax form filed by the Transgender Law Center (pdf) --> link -- scroll down to see where their funding comes from -- not to be missed is the text starting on pg 37, where they describe the accomplishments of the organization.

    They get money from the Soros Open Society fund, as well as the leftist 'dark money' Tides Foundation -- here is an interesting exposé on them:

    Tides’ Legal Laundering: Who is Drummond Pike?

    While 'dark money' organizations like Tides have to disclose where their money goes, they don't have to disclose where it comes from -- so wealthy donors who want to remain anonymous re the causes they support, can do that via these 'dark money' foundations -- despite the large sums they hand out, Tides largely flies under the radar, but got unwelcome publicity a few years ago when someone at ACORN (founded by Wade Rathke), which Tide funds, embezzled money, which was repaid personally by Drummond Pike, founder of Tides.

    Here is another article that is generally worth reading/taking note of:

    Jews Masquerading as “Rich, White Men” are Funding the Transgender Movement

    This passage describes how these 'dark pools' of money work:


    These funders often go through anonymous funding organizations such as Tides Foundation, founded and operated by Pike. Large corporations, philanthropists, and organizations can send enormous sums of money to the Tides Foundation, specify the direction the funds are to go, and have the funds get to their destination anonymously. Tides Foundation creates a legal firewall and tax shelter for foundations and funds political campaigns, often using legally dubious tactics.
     
    Wade Rathke is a Jew; I believe Drummond Pike is also a Jew; the Transgender Law Center is a very Jewy organization.

    Most people have no idea about this shit.

    Replies: @Jack Henson

  62. @eah
    These parts of the story deserver emphasis:

    A devastating murder case concluded Friday in Alameda County Superior Court with a judge finding Pablo Gomez Jr. not guilty by reason of insanity and confining the convicted killer to a state mental hospital for 39 years to life. ...

    Clay expressed deep sympathy for those in attendance and said they had made it clear what a remarkable woman Emilie Inman was. He pushed back, however, on the idea that Gomez could be held legally responsible for the murder. ...

    Clay called Inman’s murder “a senseless death by a young man who was insane.” He promised Inman’s family and friends that Gomez would never walk free again. ...

    Clay’s remarks seemed in possible contrast, however, to the law. Several people familiar with the ruling in the case have said a “not guilty by reason of insanity” finding means someone could one day be released from a mental institution if they are no longer considered a danger to society.
     
    Alameda County is the same jurisdiction that let off the bike lock head basher Eric Clanton despite the massive evidence against him -- he seriously injured several people.

    After following the link and reading the story, I feel terribly sorry for this family -- while perhaps inappropriate, I will now add: I hope at least they are now in some way 'pilled' after seeing how the Establishment feels about and treats people like them ("The timing of the legal process, he said, is all about the perpetrator’s rights.").

    Did the court use the defendant's preferred pronouns?

    Replies: @eah, @HammerJack, @bomag

    I hope at least they are now in some way ‘pilled’…

    And I hope it “pills” others who hear about the case.

    “They” seems primed for a release; either on appeal, or one of the usual institution-emptying spasms we get from our rulers.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @bomag

    Expect a documentary, like the one Peter Jackson (of Lord of the Rings' fame) shot to release the (very guilty) West Memphis Three, called Paradise Lost.
    There's something fishy about this case and not just the nutjob containing multitudes some choose to call "They".

    , @Jack D
    @bomag

    Since he pleaded "no contest" to the charges, there are very few grounds for an appeal. Also, Gomez is not black and is the kind of person that the Latino community would just as well forget. My prediction is that is exactly what is going to happen - he will disappear into Atascadero State Hospital and never be heard from again.

  63. @Altai
    @Lot

    It was first noted about the initial waves of 'Windrush' generation Jamaicans in London and other large cities had conspicuously higher levels of schizophrenia, particularly among the young single men. ('The Lonely Londoners') Social isolation and estrangement from the broader society are seemingly some of the primary environmental risk factors for schizophrenia.

    I wonder if the populations involved might hint at this being largely sociological with young men from these groups in the countries mentioned often filling a particular socio-economic niche and live in precarious social environments with much less hope for social advancement. A young single man with poor job prospects is the most alienated form of being.

    Replies: @GermanReader2, @athEIst

    A young single man with poor job prospects is the most alienated form of being.

    There must be a sizable fraction of a billion of these. You can count them when they arrive. It won’t be long now.

  64. @Reg Cæsar
    Berkeleyside is real? I get it confused with Babylon Bee.

    Jerry Brown, Tom Steyer, They
     
    "Tom and Jerry" just add another infusion to the cartoonish aroma wafting through this story.

    Replies: @athEIst, @BenKenobi

    Governor of California and Billionaire pictured with fey Latinx rent-boy who later committed a savage murder: nothing to see here, move along.

  65. @Rob McX
    @Alden


    At least Eastern Europe is free of the Soviet communists who took over their countries as a result of WW2.
     
    Funny how that worked out. We've ended up more cucked than the Eastern Europeans ever were. I don't recall any citizens of communist countries having to pretend they believed a man can have periods.

    Replies: @Alden

    Did you see the manifesto from Princeton? They’re distributing free napkins and tampons free to men but not women. It’s their right under the laws of equality or something.

    BUT, as long as the liberals are occupied with this nonsense, they won’t be lowering the age of consent to 3.

    That’s been their goal for a long time.

    • Replies: @Jack Henson
    @Alden

    Imagine believing that liberals can't walk and chew gum after living through the last 7 years.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Alden


    They’re distributing free napkins and tampons free to men but not women.
     
    Arbitrage, tampon arbritrage, bitchez! errr, boys!
  66. @Achmed E. Newman

    Several people familiar with the ruling in the case have said a “not guilty by reason of insanity” finding means someone could one day be released from a mental institution if they are no longer considered a danger to society.
     
    Is this some kind of Bill of Attainder, written just for They Gomez, or is it just the usual improper English?

    In a recent phone conversation, Inman’s father, Scott, told Berkeleyside that the court process had taken a heavy toll on the family’s physical and mental health.
     
    Uh oh ....

    Jack D. could probably weigh in on this, but I think that bit about going straight to jail after being declared sane at any point is pretty bogus. I've never heard of that. Were that policy the case, then the sentence would have to include it, and also, one wouldn't hear all the rightful complaining about these insanity defense pleas that have a lot of violent criminals back out onto the street in no time.

    BTW, what's with this new spelling of Emily? Both the article writer and the victim have this same misspelling. Someone should fix spell-check before another generation of "Emilies" is mis-christened.

    Replies: @Jack D, @1661er, @Jack D, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Alden

    When I was in California law enforcement they were released as soon as some liberal psychologists declared them cured of their insanity. Don’t know how it is now. It’s true that every day they aren’t written up counts as good behavior so all prisoners generally serve half time.

    Plus there’s some federal judicial order that California prisoners SHALL be released when the number of prisoners exceeds a certain number in the prison. At least murder is considered a violent crime.

  67. @bomag
    @eah


    I hope at least they are now in some way ‘pilled’...
     
    And I hope it "pills" others who hear about the case.

    "They" seems primed for a release; either on appeal, or one of the usual institution-emptying spasms we get from our rulers.

    Replies: @BB753, @Jack D

    Expect a documentary, like the one Peter Jackson (of Lord of the Rings’ fame) shot to release the (very guilty) West Memphis Three, called Paradise Lost.
    There’s something fishy about this case and not just the nutjob containing multitudes some choose to call “They”.

  68. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @eah

    Who knew being a hypocritical wokester could be so profitable!

    Replies: @eah

    The money seems to come mostly from her husband, who is in finance — see the Twitter thread.

  69. @bomag
    @eah


    I hope at least they are now in some way ‘pilled’...
     
    And I hope it "pills" others who hear about the case.

    "They" seems primed for a release; either on appeal, or one of the usual institution-emptying spasms we get from our rulers.

    Replies: @BB753, @Jack D

    Since he pleaded “no contest” to the charges, there are very few grounds for an appeal. Also, Gomez is not black and is the kind of person that the Latino community would just as well forget. My prediction is that is exactly what is going to happen – he will disappear into Atascadero State Hospital and never be heard from again.

  70. @anon
    Someday "They" will be released. We can count on this, because PoC, maybe because sanity is a social construct. It will be done quietly, with little coverage or fanfare. "They" will probably be placed in some halfway house for a while, then disappear into the homeless population.

    Eventually "They" will kill some other person, but it won't be anyone rich or politically connected, so just a mere murder statistic. At some point someone will kill "They", possibly on the street or possibly in some facility. Maybe it will be self defense, maybe it will be something else.

    Because we cannot execute violent, criminal actors like "They", some other poor people will have to die. But at least the rich can preen themselves about their "compassion", so I guess it's all worth it.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Pablo was pretty clearly nuts and would not have been executed in America at any time within the last 150 years. Juries are usually unsympathetic to insanity defenses but I think Gomez would have been able to put up a pretty good one. There is no real explanation for why Gomez killed Inman other than the fact that he was nuts – he wasn’t trying to rob or rape her, there was no argument, nothing.

    There is certainly a chance that one of his fellow prisoners is going to kill him, in which case he will have gotten exactly what he deserved in your view.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Jack D

    Pablo was pretty clearly nuts and would not have been executed in America at any time within the last 150 years.

    Perhaps. Perhaps not.

    In any event, it is only a matter of time before "They" is released. One way or another, whether some pressure group decides to get him out or a liberal politician makes a call from the back seat of his limo, "They" will be released. But not to your neighborhood, or the neighborhood of any of your family, so no worries, Jack. It will be someone else's problem, not yours.

    There is certainly a chance that one of his fellow prisoners is going to kill him, in which case he will have gotten exactly what he deserved in your view.

    My actual view is that justice should be served. Prison murder is not justice. It is murder.

    Replies: @schnellandine

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    Someone who say murders their husband or wife because they are really pissed off about X, Y, Z--i.e. a clear motive--maybe evil as all hell--but individually they do not actually pose a big danger to a random citizen. We could put a big ass tatoo on their forehead that says "wife/husband murderer--do not date" and "let the buyer beware". The reason we should not do that is both because we care about justice and because we need their example to properly incentivize--i.e. deter--others.

    People who randomly kill people for no particular reason, just cause they feel like it--the spirt moves them or something--are precisely the people who are a danger to the average citizen most need execution. We should be extra diligent about killing them off--getting them off the streets and out of the gene pool.

    To keep up civilization ... take out the trash.

    Replies: @Jack D

  71. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack Henson

    Rob Tibbets. Paul died a dozen years back with no regrets about piloting Enola Gay.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/aug/06/nuclear.japan


    Truman walked in and everybody stood on their feet. He said, "Sit down, please," and he had a big smile on his face and he said, "General Spaatz, I want to congratulate you on being first chief of the air force," because it was no longer the air corps. Spaatz said, "Thank you, sir, it's a great honour and I appreciate it." And he said to Doolittle: "That was a magnificent thing you pulled flying off of that carrier," and Doolittle said, "All in a day's work, Mr President." And he looked at Dave Shillen and said, "Colonel Shillen, I want to congratulate you on having the foresight to recognise the potential in aerial refuelling. We're gonna need it bad some day." And he said thank you very much.

    Then he looked at me for 10 seconds and he didn't say anything. And when he finally did, he said, "What do you think?" I said, "Mr President, I think I did what I was told." He slapped his hand on the table and said: "You're damn right you did, and I'm the guy who sent you. If anybody gives you a hard time about it, refer them to me."
     

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

    “And he said to Doolittle: “That was a magnificent thing you pulled flying off of that carrier,” and Doolittle said, “All in a day’s work, Mr President.””

    Doolittle was just not just a bomber pilot; he flew the GeeBee racing plane in air races, so “All in a day’s work, Mr President” is most certainly appropo.

  72. @Ano
    So, the court decided They was perfectly sane and of sound mind up until when They did the murder- and it was just the party drugs alone which led to They's 'violent psychotic break with reality'.

    Okaaay!

    But not bad for Woke-ifornia- when I was half-expecting him (oops!) to be let off and join Kate Steinle's killer on the streets. (But I don't rule out some future restorative-justice Dem pardoning him...).

    Replies: @athEIst

    Cartoonish is not the aroma I got. Wasn’t Tom looking (paying) for some celebrity endorsements?

  73. anon[895] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @anon

    Pablo was pretty clearly nuts and would not have been executed in America at any time within the last 150 years. Juries are usually unsympathetic to insanity defenses but I think Gomez would have been able to put up a pretty good one. There is no real explanation for why Gomez killed Inman other than the fact that he was nuts - he wasn't trying to rob or rape her, there was no argument, nothing.

    There is certainly a chance that one of his fellow prisoners is going to kill him, in which case he will have gotten exactly what he deserved in your view.

    Replies: @anon, @AnotherDad

    Pablo was pretty clearly nuts and would not have been executed in America at any time within the last 150 years.

    Perhaps. Perhaps not.

    In any event, it is only a matter of time before “They” is released. One way or another, whether some pressure group decides to get him out or a liberal politician makes a call from the back seat of his limo, “They” will be released. But not to your neighborhood, or the neighborhood of any of your family, so no worries, Jack. It will be someone else’s problem, not yours.

    There is certainly a chance that one of his fellow prisoners is going to kill him, in which case he will have gotten exactly what he deserved in your view.

    My actual view is that justice should be served. Prison murder is not justice. It is murder.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @schnellandine
    @anon


    Prison murder is not justice. It is murder.
     
    And that's logically tautologous.
  74. @bomag
    @eah


    The agreement to settle Quine’s federal lawsuit...
     
    So someone who entered the Cali prison system in 1980 now has the resources to sue the state via a federal lawsuit.

    ...precedent has been set, [gloated the victors; the state wallet has been opened; let the deluge begin.]
    “This is clearly where the law is going and where the entire health industry is going,” said Ilona Turner, legal director at the Transgender Law Center in Oakland, which handled the cases of Norsworthy and Quine.
     
    And Quine gets transferred to a women's prison.

    Replies: @Alden, @eah

    I wonder who funds the transgender law center. Probably the great grand children of the people who funded Faye Stender Charles Garry Huey Newton Angela Davis et al.

    Looks like the entire trans movement is just a marketing device for trans physicians surgeons other medics pharmacists counselors coordinators consultants and attorneys to make a living.

    It’s perfect capitalism. Can’t find a job? Start your own business. Can’t even get a job as a pharmacist clerk? Create a non profit and become a coordinator of trans services.

    We need to start a movement for insurance paid free facelifts, hair trans plants, liposuction, implants, body sculpting and steroid muscles for baby boomers

    • Replies: @Pontius
    @Alden

    FFS, I had to pay $500 out of pocket to get two cysts removed from my neck since it was "elective, cosmetic" surgery not covered by the Ontario health insurance plan. I guess if I had let them grow big enough to force my head into my chest I could have made a case for necessity.

    Sex changes are fully covered though.

    Replies: @JMcG

  75. @Franz

    “ Immigrant groups in Western Europe have markedly increased rates of schizophrenia. The highest rates are found in ethnic groups that are predominantly black. ”
     
    And to put it even more plain, a large number of people leaving the land of their birth (male, single, frustrated) are likely to be misfits wherever they go. (This includes Ellis Island Americans from various places a century ago.)

    "Taking in refugees" and buying a crappy used car are equivalent: A disaster waiting to happen.

    Replies: @Alden

    I agree. The ship company advertised in Jamaica newspapers that there was a massive labor shortage in Britain. So the unemployed left Jamaica. Plus, many were criminals in trouble with the law or other criminals. It’s interesting that within about 5 years the Windrush men became known as the worst kind of pimps.

    Successful conformist people stay. Immigrants tend to be losers or rebels. There was a song in early California about the American immigrants many of whom had criminal records back east.

    What did you do in the east you beast
    Did you kill your wife
    Did you use a gun or a knife

    That’s all I remember. It went on and on about embezzlement robbery and crime committed back east.

  76. @Hibernian
    @Mr. Anon

    Don't think attacking Steyer is a priority for Bloomberg or any other Dem candidate; he's at about 1% in the polls.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    Don’t think attacking Steyer is a priority for Bloomberg or any other Dem candidate; he’s at about 1% in the polls.

    That high?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Paleo Liberal

    I admit that I was wrong about Bloomberg. I truly thought that he would stick to buying gubernatorial elections and gun laws. Perhaps there are campaign finance issues that he can use to his advantage if he's a declared Prexy candidate?

  77. I could come around to using some of these pronouns like “they” or “zhe” to refer to individuals. There is something grammatical about highlighting their craziness.

  78. @eah
    OT

    As some may know, Saira Rao, who presents herself on Twitter as a professional white people hater, ran for Congress in CO -- in doing so, she filed a financial disclosure statement -- part of that is reproduced in the image below.

    At the following link there is an interesting Twitter thread about the finances of Rao and her husband; they apparently live in a multi-million dollar home in an exclusive Denver neighborhood that is 90% white --> link
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHVS_hWXkAQJ5gF.jpg

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @J.Ross

    Fantastic, worth a post, or a reference the next time Rao comes up. Reminder that Rao was the first Twit to blame a recent Californian shooting, committed by a hapa, on white supremacy. She must like living dangerously.

  79. @Paleo Liberal
    @Hibernian


    Don’t think attacking Steyer is a priority for Bloomberg or any other Dem candidate; he’s at about 1% in the polls.
     
    That high?

    Replies: @anon

    I admit that I was wrong about Bloomberg. I truly thought that he would stick to buying gubernatorial elections and gun laws. Perhaps there are campaign finance issues that he can use to his advantage if he’s a declared Prexy candidate?

  80. @Jack D
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Upon reading further, Gomez was NOT found "not guilty by reason of insanity". Berkeleyside, as usual, is wrong.

    Rather, according to SFGate , a slightly more reputable source, Gomez pleaded "no contest" (which is effectively the same thing as a guilty plea) to murder and the judge sentenced they to 39 to life BUT with the added twist that their sentence be served at a mental institution rather than a prison.

    This is completely different than a finding of "not guilty by reason of insanity". If you are not guilty by reason of insanity then you are, as I said before, not guilty and therefore the state cannot hold you the minute that it is determined that you are no longer insane. How, they is convicted of murder and the state can continue to hold him in accordance with the judge's original sentence unless he is paroled or pardoned. Just as the judge said, if they no longer requires treatment then they will transfer they to prison. They is sentenced to a term of years and the only question is whether they will serve that sentence in a locked mental facility or a prison. Going free is not a choice. However it should be noted that California has time off for good behavior which can take up to 1/2 off your sentence so they could hypothetically be out in as early as 19 years. However, they has up to a life sentence so if the parole board decides that parole is not merited, they can keep him forever.


    https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/Man-Sentenced-To-Mental-Facility-For-Brutal-14857249.php

    Replies: @Yngvar

    I assume you write they instead of “They” or Gomez for effect.

    Here in Norway Anders Breivik was sentenced to the maximum allowed 12 years for killing 77 people, but under the psychiatric evaluation rule, so he’s never going to be released (hopefully). Killing is a anti-social thing to do so our killers fight tooth and nails against getting a PER-judgement; they want a release date.

    I was astounded by the mention that California still have mental hospitals. Or maybe it is called San Fransisco .

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Yngvar

    They are prisons for the criminally insane and thanks be to God the liberals weren’t able to close them down.
    The natives call San Francisco The Outpatient Clinic

  81. @Lot
    Reminder: third world migration drastically increases the population of violently mentally ill people.

    2007 study in Alameda County: children of black mothers 3 times more likely to be psychotic.

    https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/36/4/751/665657

    The statistical quality of this study is very high BTW.

    It notes in the “background” section that

    “ Immigrant groups in Western Europe have markedly increased rates of schizophrenia. The highest rates are found in ethnic groups that are predominantly black. ”

    Anong children receiving emergency psych treatment:

    “ a diagnosis of schizophrenia or psychosis was 3.3 times more likely for African Americans and 2.9 times more likely for Latinos than for their white counterparts.”

    “ A very high risk of schizophrenia has also been reported for Moroccan males in the Netherlands.”

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17278906/

    Replies: @Altai, @Triumph104, @TelfoedJohn, @Mr McKenna, @AnotherDad, @Corvinus

    People don’t belong where they don’t belong.

    I will say some vitamin D supplements would probably help, but the fundamental answer is, as always: do not let them in!

  82. Court with a judge finding Pablo Gomez Jr. not guilty by reason of insanity and confining the convicted killer to a state mental hospital for 39 years to life.

    This insanity “defense” stuff is logical nonsense when it comes to murder.

    I’ll grant you there’s an issue when it comes to what exactly to do with some loon who say barks and occasionally punches people in a public park. (Getting them out of the park and locked up is the key point.)

    But murder? Whatever it’s confusions and malfunctions, it was the biological organinism Gomez–no one else–who murdered this girl. And it is that biological organism that we should hold responsible. Kill it and let God sort it out.

  83. So Pablo only answers to the subject pronoun “they” in English. I wonder how he works that out in Spanish.

    Ellos? Ellas? Or how about ellix?

    Maybe that’s what drove it to insanity.

  84. @Jack D
    @anon

    Pablo was pretty clearly nuts and would not have been executed in America at any time within the last 150 years. Juries are usually unsympathetic to insanity defenses but I think Gomez would have been able to put up a pretty good one. There is no real explanation for why Gomez killed Inman other than the fact that he was nuts - he wasn't trying to rob or rape her, there was no argument, nothing.

    There is certainly a chance that one of his fellow prisoners is going to kill him, in which case he will have gotten exactly what he deserved in your view.

    Replies: @anon, @AnotherDad

    Someone who say murders their husband or wife because they are really pissed off about X, Y, Z–i.e. a clear motive–maybe evil as all hell–but individually they do not actually pose a big danger to a random citizen. We could put a big ass tatoo on their forehead that says “wife/husband murderer–do not date” and “let the buyer beware”. The reason we should not do that is both because we care about justice and because we need their example to properly incentivize–i.e. deter–others.

    People who randomly kill people for no particular reason, just cause they feel like it–the spirt moves them or something–are precisely the people who are a danger to the average citizen most need execution. We should be extra diligent about killing them off–getting them off the streets and out of the gene pool.

    To keep up civilization … take out the trash.

    • Agree: Charon, athEIst
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    When people are insane and a danger to themselves or others, humane societies confine them in an insane asylum but do not execute them. This has been the rule since at least the 1840s. In order to commit a crime you have to have some sort of criminal intent and people who are truly insane (who think for example that they are defending themselves from space lizards) cannot form criminal intent.

    This doesn't apply to Pablo, who pleaded no contest to murder and is NOT legally found to be not guilty by reason of insanity. For Pablo, the only question is where he is to be held during his sentence of 39 to life and his initial assignment is a locked facility for the criminally insane - this is for all intents and purposes a prison. California has a nominal death penalty but no executions have been carried out since 2006 and even before then executions were rare.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

  85. @HammerJack
    @eah


    (“The timing of the legal process, he said, is all about the perpetrator’s rights.”)
     
    The timing, and much else. If you've ever been through or even near that particular buzz saw, you'll know the truth of this.

    Replies: @Jack Henson

    Very true. A close family member was murdered and the pre-trial dragged on for over two years as the defendant changed lawyers, asked for continuance, fired and rehired his friend, all to plead guilty to murder in the second and be given 30 years by the (((judge))). You’ll be amazed at how a judge will bend over backwards for a criminal but then take a missed court date by a member of the family as a sign that the family has “moved on”.

  86. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D

    Someone who say murders their husband or wife because they are really pissed off about X, Y, Z--i.e. a clear motive--maybe evil as all hell--but individually they do not actually pose a big danger to a random citizen. We could put a big ass tatoo on their forehead that says "wife/husband murderer--do not date" and "let the buyer beware". The reason we should not do that is both because we care about justice and because we need their example to properly incentivize--i.e. deter--others.

    People who randomly kill people for no particular reason, just cause they feel like it--the spirt moves them or something--are precisely the people who are a danger to the average citizen most need execution. We should be extra diligent about killing them off--getting them off the streets and out of the gene pool.

    To keep up civilization ... take out the trash.

    Replies: @Jack D

    When people are insane and a danger to themselves or others, humane societies confine them in an insane asylum but do not execute them. This has been the rule since at least the 1840s. In order to commit a crime you have to have some sort of criminal intent and people who are truly insane (who think for example that they are defending themselves from space lizards) cannot form criminal intent.

    This doesn’t apply to Pablo, who pleaded no contest to murder and is NOT legally found to be not guilty by reason of insanity. For Pablo, the only question is where he is to be held during his sentence of 39 to life and his initial assignment is a locked facility for the criminally insane – this is for all intents and purposes a prison. California has a nominal death penalty but no executions have been carried out since 2006 and even before then executions were rare.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Jack D

    Another Dad wrote:


    The reason we should not do that is both because we care about justice and because we need their example to properly incentivize–i.e. deter–others.
     
    And Jack D. wrote:

    When people are insane and a danger to themselves or others, humane societies confine them in an insane asylum but do not execute them.
     
    And here we have the modern conceit that 'we can incarcerate them so they won't harm others', which has proven to be false. The murderers are not confined long enough to keep the innocent safe. But even if the murderers were prevented from further crimes, your position ignores justice. And justice is not justice if it is not symmetric, reciprocal and binding. Justice demands capital punishment, and invoking stupidity as a mitigating circumstance ensures not only that innocents die needlessly, but that we institutionalize injustice.

    And even though your preferred public policy is the prevailing sentiment, it does not make it just.
  87. @Lot
    Reminder: third world migration drastically increases the population of violently mentally ill people.

    2007 study in Alameda County: children of black mothers 3 times more likely to be psychotic.

    https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/36/4/751/665657

    The statistical quality of this study is very high BTW.

    It notes in the “background” section that

    “ Immigrant groups in Western Europe have markedly increased rates of schizophrenia. The highest rates are found in ethnic groups that are predominantly black. ”

    Anong children receiving emergency psych treatment:

    “ a diagnosis of schizophrenia or psychosis was 3.3 times more likely for African Americans and 2.9 times more likely for Latinos than for their white counterparts.”

    “ A very high risk of schizophrenia has also been reported for Moroccan males in the Netherlands.”

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17278906/

    Replies: @Altai, @Triumph104, @TelfoedJohn, @Mr McKenna, @AnotherDad, @Corvinus

    “Reminder: third world migration drastically increases the population of violently mentally ill people.”

    Nuance escapes you. For a more accurate discussion, read 209-221.

    https://www.iom.int/sites/default/files/country/docs/china/r5_world_migration_report_2018_en.pdf

    “A very high risk of schizophrenia has also been reported for Moroccan males in the Netherlands.”

    The study is from 2007. The authors acknowledge that “the explanation for these findings is uncertain. Social adversity, racial discrimination, family dysfunction, unemployment and poor housing conditions have been proposed as contributing factors”.

    • Replies: @jbwilson24
    @Corvinus

    "The study is from 2007. The authors acknowledge that “the explanation for these findings is uncertain. Social adversity, racial discrimination, family dysfunction, unemployment and poor housing conditions have been proposed as contributing factors”."

    That sounds like PC bullcrap meant to exculpate the authors from claims of racism.

    How does family dysfunction exonerate migrants? If they tend to have dysfunctional families that induce mental illness, all the more reason to keep them out.

    Unemployment? They receive generous welfare payments that they would never be entitled to back home.

    Poor housing? Slums in Pakistan vs welfare-provided apartments in Europe? That's a reason for mental illness?

    Anyone dumb enough to buy these explanations can safely be ignored.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Corvinus


    Nuance escapes you.
     
    Reason escapes you.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  88. @Alden
    @Rob McX

    Did you see the manifesto from Princeton? They’re distributing free napkins and tampons free to men but not women. It’s their right under the laws of equality or something.

    BUT, as long as the liberals are occupied with this nonsense, they won’t be lowering the age of consent to 3.

    That’s been their goal for a long time.

    Replies: @Jack Henson, @Achmed E. Newman

    Imagine believing that liberals can’t walk and chew gum after living through the last 7 years.

  89. @GermanReader2
    @Altai

    I think a great part of it can be attributed to the greater consumption of specific drugs (Marihuana, khat etc.) in those communities.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    I think a great part of it can be attributed to the greater consumption of specific drugs (Marihuana, khat etc.) in those communities.

    Definitely. But the fact that cannabis usage is associated with much higher rates of schizophrenia is one of the many things we’re not supposed to notice these days.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @dfordoom

    Correlation is not causation. A little known fact is that a high % of schizophrenics are heavy tobacco smokers - 4x the rate of the general population, meaning that 80% smoke in the US vs. 20% of the general population. They also tend to have higher levels of nicotine in their blood, presumably because they select high nicotine cigarettes and smoke them all the way down. The reason is not known but it is presumed that it is a form of self medication because the nicotine offers them some relief from their psychotic symptoms. But no one thinks that tobacco causes schizophrenia.

    Replies: @Alden

  90. @bomag
    @eah


    The agreement to settle Quine’s federal lawsuit...
     
    So someone who entered the Cali prison system in 1980 now has the resources to sue the state via a federal lawsuit.

    ...precedent has been set, [gloated the victors; the state wallet has been opened; let the deluge begin.]
    “This is clearly where the law is going and where the entire health industry is going,” said Ilona Turner, legal director at the Transgender Law Center in Oakland, which handled the cases of Norsworthy and Quine.
     
    And Quine gets transferred to a women's prison.

    Replies: @Alden, @eah

    said Ilona Turner, legal director at the Transgender Law Center in Oakland

    Here is the 2017 tax form filed by the Transgender Law Center (pdf) –> link — scroll down to see where their funding comes from — not to be missed is the text starting on pg 37, where they describe the accomplishments of the organization.

    They get money from the Soros Open Society fund, as well as the leftist ‘dark money’ Tides Foundation — here is an interesting exposé on them:

    Tides’ Legal Laundering: Who is Drummond Pike?

    While ‘dark money’ organizations like Tides have to disclose where their money goes, they don’t have to disclose where it comes from — so wealthy donors who want to remain anonymous re the causes they support, can do that via these ‘dark money’ foundations — despite the large sums they hand out, Tides largely flies under the radar, but got unwelcome publicity a few years ago when someone at ACORN (founded by Wade Rathke), which Tide funds, embezzled money, which was repaid personally by Drummond Pike, founder of Tides.

    Here is another article that is generally worth reading/taking note of:

    Jews Masquerading as “Rich, White Men” are Funding the Transgender Movement

    This passage describes how these ‘dark pools’ of money work:

    These funders often go through anonymous funding organizations such as Tides Foundation, founded and operated by Pike. Large corporations, philanthropists, and organizations can send enormous sums of money to the Tides Foundation, specify the direction the funds are to go, and have the funds get to their destination anonymously. Tides Foundation creates a legal firewall and tax shelter for foundations and funds political campaigns, often using legally dubious tactics.

    Wade Rathke is a Jew; I believe Drummond Pike is also a Jew; the Transgender Law Center is a very Jewy organization.

    Most people have no idea about this shit.

    • Replies: @Jack Henson
    @eah

    Didn't someone shoot up a Tides Foundation branch at one point? I remember when Glenn Beck channeled that Alex Jones energy centuries ago in 2009 he was pretty good at laying out this stuff and Tides was one of his hobby horses.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  91. @eah
    @bomag

    said Ilona Turner, legal director at the Transgender Law Center in Oakland

    Here is the 2017 tax form filed by the Transgender Law Center (pdf) --> link -- scroll down to see where their funding comes from -- not to be missed is the text starting on pg 37, where they describe the accomplishments of the organization.

    They get money from the Soros Open Society fund, as well as the leftist 'dark money' Tides Foundation -- here is an interesting exposé on them:

    Tides’ Legal Laundering: Who is Drummond Pike?

    While 'dark money' organizations like Tides have to disclose where their money goes, they don't have to disclose where it comes from -- so wealthy donors who want to remain anonymous re the causes they support, can do that via these 'dark money' foundations -- despite the large sums they hand out, Tides largely flies under the radar, but got unwelcome publicity a few years ago when someone at ACORN (founded by Wade Rathke), which Tide funds, embezzled money, which was repaid personally by Drummond Pike, founder of Tides.

    Here is another article that is generally worth reading/taking note of:

    Jews Masquerading as “Rich, White Men” are Funding the Transgender Movement

    This passage describes how these 'dark pools' of money work:


    These funders often go through anonymous funding organizations such as Tides Foundation, founded and operated by Pike. Large corporations, philanthropists, and organizations can send enormous sums of money to the Tides Foundation, specify the direction the funds are to go, and have the funds get to their destination anonymously. Tides Foundation creates a legal firewall and tax shelter for foundations and funds political campaigns, often using legally dubious tactics.
     
    Wade Rathke is a Jew; I believe Drummond Pike is also a Jew; the Transgender Law Center is a very Jewy organization.

    Most people have no idea about this shit.

    Replies: @Jack Henson

    Didn’t someone shoot up a Tides Foundation branch at one point? I remember when Glenn Beck channeled that Alex Jones energy centuries ago in 2009 he was pretty good at laying out this stuff and Tides was one of his hobby horses.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack Henson

    I used to watch the guy, Jack, regularly at a clubhouse back then, maybe 5 in the afternoon? He filled up that flippable chalk board and learned himself some American history. I enjoyed it. Then I read that the stupid cuck was down at the border giving out teddy bears. That was about it. I still have a copy of Stick and Rudder that he signed. (Nope, I didn't feel like springing for his own book ;-} )

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jack Henson

  92. @eah
    @eah

    Friends remember Emilie Inman: ‘No one loved as hard’

    We constantly hear about rightwing 'hate speech' and its potential consequences which is why it must be censored blah blah -- but who helped coddle and sustain the psychotic delusions of this nutcase?

    https://i.postimg.cc/bNycCj2g/mitgeschubst.png

    Replies: @eah

    A short video of Emilie Inman singing (on the road in France; she was born in France) –> link

  93. Mr Sailer, I politely suggest you tell them to pound salt.

    Note this reply to the tweet below: “I made a huge mistake looking at that racist’s website”

    And after all of your effort to remain ‘wryly detached’ — “LOL”.

  94. @Yngvar
    @Jack D

    I assume you write they instead of "They" or Gomez for effect.

    Here in Norway Anders Breivik was sentenced to the maximum allowed 12 years for killing 77 people, but under the psychiatric evaluation rule, so he's never going to be released (hopefully). Killing is a anti-social thing to do so our killers fight tooth and nails against getting a PER-judgement; they want a release date.

    I was astounded by the mention that California still have mental hospitals. Or maybe it is called San Fransisco .

    Replies: @Alden

    They are prisons for the criminally insane and thanks be to God the liberals weren’t able to close them down.
    The natives call San Francisco The Outpatient Clinic

  95. @dfordoom
    @GermanReader2


    I think a great part of it can be attributed to the greater consumption of specific drugs (Marihuana, khat etc.) in those communities.
     
    Definitely. But the fact that cannabis usage is associated with much higher rates of schizophrenia is one of the many things we're not supposed to notice these days.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Correlation is not causation. A little known fact is that a high % of schizophrenics are heavy tobacco smokers – 4x the rate of the general population, meaning that 80% smoke in the US vs. 20% of the general population. They also tend to have higher levels of nicotine in their blood, presumably because they select high nicotine cigarettes and smoke them all the way down. The reason is not known but it is presumed that it is a form of self medication because the nicotine offers them some relief from their psychotic symptoms. But no one thinks that tobacco causes schizophrenia.

    • Agree: Ozymandias
    • Replies: @Alden
    @Jack D

    Agree. Smoking is soothing, and calming.

    Replies: @dfordoom

  96. @Jack D
    @dfordoom

    Correlation is not causation. A little known fact is that a high % of schizophrenics are heavy tobacco smokers - 4x the rate of the general population, meaning that 80% smoke in the US vs. 20% of the general population. They also tend to have higher levels of nicotine in their blood, presumably because they select high nicotine cigarettes and smoke them all the way down. The reason is not known but it is presumed that it is a form of self medication because the nicotine offers them some relief from their psychotic symptoms. But no one thinks that tobacco causes schizophrenia.

    Replies: @Alden

    Agree. Smoking is soothing, and calming.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Alden


    Agree. Smoking is soothing, and calming.
     
    Nicotine is arguably the one psychoactive drug that is truly effective in a positive way.
  97. @Alden
    @bomag

    I wonder who funds the transgender law center. Probably the great grand children of the people who funded Faye Stender Charles Garry Huey Newton Angela Davis et al.

    Looks like the entire trans movement is just a marketing device for trans physicians surgeons other medics pharmacists counselors coordinators consultants and attorneys to make a living.

    It’s perfect capitalism. Can’t find a job? Start your own business. Can’t even get a job as a pharmacist clerk? Create a non profit and become a coordinator of trans services.

    We need to start a movement for insurance paid free facelifts, hair trans plants, liposuction, implants, body sculpting and steroid muscles for baby boomers

    Replies: @Pontius

    FFS, I had to pay $500 out of pocket to get two cysts removed from my neck since it was “elective, cosmetic” surgery not covered by the Ontario health insurance plan. I guess if I had let them grow big enough to force my head into my chest I could have made a case for necessity.

    Sex changes are fully covered though.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Pontius

    The only medical procedure paid at 100% at the Fortune 500 company with which I am most familiar is “gender reassignment.”
    Have a testicle removed because it’s cancerous? 6 k out of pocket. Have both removed because you like the way you look in a dress? Zero dollars.

  98. The timing of the legal process, he said, is all about the perpetrator’s rights.

    Unfortunately, this is sometimes necessary so that the perp is seen to get a fair legal hearing. The worst possible outcome is that he is freed on appeal because the original judge failed to follow the correct procedures.

    … a judge finding Pablo Gomez Jr. not guilty by reason of insanity and confining the convicted killer to a state mental hospital for 39 years to life.

    At least American sentencing is appropriate. In England it occasionally happens that the doctors put the perp on meds, declare him cured, and release him. If he then stops taking his meds, he may kill again.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @James N. Kennett



    The timing of the legal process, he said, is all about the perpetrator’s rights.
     
    Unfortunately, this is sometimes necessary so that the perp is seen to get a fair legal hearing.
     
    I don't think I'd describe ensuring that the accused gets a a fair legal hearing as unfortunate.
  99. @Alden
    @Rob McX

    Did you see the manifesto from Princeton? They’re distributing free napkins and tampons free to men but not women. It’s their right under the laws of equality or something.

    BUT, as long as the liberals are occupied with this nonsense, they won’t be lowering the age of consent to 3.

    That’s been their goal for a long time.

    Replies: @Jack Henson, @Achmed E. Newman

    They’re distributing free napkins and tampons free to men but not women.

    Arbitrage, tampon arbritrage, bitchez! errr, boys!

  100. @Jack Henson
    @eah

    Didn't someone shoot up a Tides Foundation branch at one point? I remember when Glenn Beck channeled that Alex Jones energy centuries ago in 2009 he was pretty good at laying out this stuff and Tides was one of his hobby horses.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I used to watch the guy, Jack, regularly at a clubhouse back then, maybe 5 in the afternoon? He filled up that flippable chalk board and learned himself some American history. I enjoyed it. Then I read that the stupid cuck was down at the border giving out teddy bears. That was about it. I still have a copy of Stick and Rudder that he signed. (Nope, I didn’t feel like springing for his own book ;-} )

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Stick and Rudder is sufficiently well written I think it should be heavily used as a work of literature in high school English classes.

    , @Jack Henson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yeah Beck's trajectory was a weird one. After Tides got shot up I think was the delineation point where he went more and more normie conservative until that point where he's handing out teddy bears to 17 year old "kids".

  101. @Frances Dinkelspiel
    Hey Mr. Sailer

    I am the executive editor of Berkeleyside, from where this article comes. You have copied too much of the article onto your website, far exceeding the generally accepted notions of aggregation. Please remove about 600 words of the article from this site, and link to Berkeleyside.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I counted only ~ 150 words just now. How could he remove 600? Lighten up, Frances.

  102. @anon
    @Jack D

    Pablo was pretty clearly nuts and would not have been executed in America at any time within the last 150 years.

    Perhaps. Perhaps not.

    In any event, it is only a matter of time before "They" is released. One way or another, whether some pressure group decides to get him out or a liberal politician makes a call from the back seat of his limo, "They" will be released. But not to your neighborhood, or the neighborhood of any of your family, so no worries, Jack. It will be someone else's problem, not yours.

    There is certainly a chance that one of his fellow prisoners is going to kill him, in which case he will have gotten exactly what he deserved in your view.

    My actual view is that justice should be served. Prison murder is not justice. It is murder.

    Replies: @schnellandine

    Prison murder is not justice. It is murder.

    And that’s logically tautologous.

  103. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack Henson

    I used to watch the guy, Jack, regularly at a clubhouse back then, maybe 5 in the afternoon? He filled up that flippable chalk board and learned himself some American history. I enjoyed it. Then I read that the stupid cuck was down at the border giving out teddy bears. That was about it. I still have a copy of Stick and Rudder that he signed. (Nope, I didn't feel like springing for his own book ;-} )

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jack Henson

    Stick and Rudder is sufficiently well written I think it should be heavily used as a work of literature in high school English classes.

  104. @Alden
    @Jack D

    Agree. Smoking is soothing, and calming.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    Agree. Smoking is soothing, and calming.

    Nicotine is arguably the one psychoactive drug that is truly effective in a positive way.

  105. @James N. Kennett


    The timing of the legal process, he said, is all about the perpetrator’s rights.
     

     
    Unfortunately, this is sometimes necessary so that the perp is seen to get a fair legal hearing. The worst possible outcome is that he is freed on appeal because the original judge failed to follow the correct procedures.


    ... a judge finding Pablo Gomez Jr. not guilty by reason of insanity and confining the convicted killer to a state mental hospital for 39 years to life.
     

     
    At least American sentencing is appropriate. In England it occasionally happens that the doctors put the perp on meds, declare him cured, and release him. If he then stops taking his meds, he may kill again.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    The timing of the legal process, he said, is all about the perpetrator’s rights.

    Unfortunately, this is sometimes necessary so that the perp is seen to get a fair legal hearing.

    I don’t think I’d describe ensuring that the accused gets a a fair legal hearing as unfortunate.

  106. @Alden
    @Bill P

    They’re not that horrible and according to convicts who’ve been in both prisons for the criminally insane and regular state prisons the prison / hospitals for the criminally insane are much better than the regular prisons in California.

    The best thing about the criminally insane prisons is that they are much much safer than regular prisons. The criminally insane hospitals have more guards, more tranquilizer meds and most important , more security cameras and fewer blank spots with no cameras. According to the ex cons, the danger in regular prisons is the blank spots with no cameras and where the guards can’t see what’s going on.

    The biggest problem for prisoners is not getting get killed or injured by fellow prisoners.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    According to the ex cons, the danger in regular prisons is the blank spots with no cameras and where the guards can’t see what’s going on.

    The biggest problem for prisoners is not getting get killed or injured by fellow prisoners.

    Are regular prisons just underfunded, or is the risk to life and limb a deliberate part of incarceration as punishment?

  107. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack Henson

    I used to watch the guy, Jack, regularly at a clubhouse back then, maybe 5 in the afternoon? He filled up that flippable chalk board and learned himself some American history. I enjoyed it. Then I read that the stupid cuck was down at the border giving out teddy bears. That was about it. I still have a copy of Stick and Rudder that he signed. (Nope, I didn't feel like springing for his own book ;-} )

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jack Henson

    Yeah Beck’s trajectory was a weird one. After Tides got shot up I think was the delineation point where he went more and more normie conservative until that point where he’s handing out teddy bears to 17 year old “kids”.

  108. @Corvinus
    @Lot

    "Reminder: third world migration drastically increases the population of violently mentally ill people."

    Nuance escapes you. For a more accurate discussion, read 209-221.

    https://www.iom.int/sites/default/files/country/docs/china/r5_world_migration_report_2018_en.pdf

    “A very high risk of schizophrenia has also been reported for Moroccan males in the Netherlands.”

    The study is from 2007. The authors acknowledge that "the explanation for these findings is uncertain. Social adversity, racial discrimination, family dysfunction, unemployment and poor housing conditions have been proposed as contributing factors".

    Replies: @jbwilson24, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    “The study is from 2007. The authors acknowledge that “the explanation for these findings is uncertain. Social adversity, racial discrimination, family dysfunction, unemployment and poor housing conditions have been proposed as contributing factors”.”

    That sounds like PC bullcrap meant to exculpate the authors from claims of racism.

    How does family dysfunction exonerate migrants? If they tend to have dysfunctional families that induce mental illness, all the more reason to keep them out.

    Unemployment? They receive generous welfare payments that they would never be entitled to back home.

    Poor housing? Slums in Pakistan vs welfare-provided apartments in Europe? That’s a reason for mental illness?

    Anyone dumb enough to buy these explanations can safely be ignored.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @jbwilson24

    "That sounds like PC bullcrap meant to exculpate the authors from claims of racism."

    No, it's just demonstrating that there are environmental factors at play besides biological links to schizophrenia.

  109. @Pontius
    @Alden

    FFS, I had to pay $500 out of pocket to get two cysts removed from my neck since it was "elective, cosmetic" surgery not covered by the Ontario health insurance plan. I guess if I had let them grow big enough to force my head into my chest I could have made a case for necessity.

    Sex changes are fully covered though.

    Replies: @JMcG

    The only medical procedure paid at 100% at the Fortune 500 company with which I am most familiar is “gender reassignment.”
    Have a testicle removed because it’s cancerous? 6 k out of pocket. Have both removed because you like the way you look in a dress? Zero dollars.

  110. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    When people are insane and a danger to themselves or others, humane societies confine them in an insane asylum but do not execute them. This has been the rule since at least the 1840s. In order to commit a crime you have to have some sort of criminal intent and people who are truly insane (who think for example that they are defending themselves from space lizards) cannot form criminal intent.

    This doesn't apply to Pablo, who pleaded no contest to murder and is NOT legally found to be not guilty by reason of insanity. For Pablo, the only question is where he is to be held during his sentence of 39 to life and his initial assignment is a locked facility for the criminally insane - this is for all intents and purposes a prison. California has a nominal death penalty but no executions have been carried out since 2006 and even before then executions were rare.

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Another Dad wrote:

    The reason we should not do that is both because we care about justice and because we need their example to properly incentivize–i.e. deter–others.

    And Jack D. wrote:

    When people are insane and a danger to themselves or others, humane societies confine them in an insane asylum but do not execute them.

    And here we have the modern conceit that ‘we can incarcerate them so they won’t harm others’, which has proven to be false. The murderers are not confined long enough to keep the innocent safe. But even if the murderers were prevented from further crimes, your position ignores justice. And justice is not justice if it is not symmetric, reciprocal and binding. Justice demands capital punishment, and invoking stupidity as a mitigating circumstance ensures not only that innocents die needlessly, but that we institutionalize injustice.

    And even though your preferred public policy is the prevailing sentiment, it does not make it just.

    • Agree: JMcG
  111. @Corvinus
    @Lot

    "Reminder: third world migration drastically increases the population of violently mentally ill people."

    Nuance escapes you. For a more accurate discussion, read 209-221.

    https://www.iom.int/sites/default/files/country/docs/china/r5_world_migration_report_2018_en.pdf

    “A very high risk of schizophrenia has also been reported for Moroccan males in the Netherlands.”

    The study is from 2007. The authors acknowledge that "the explanation for these findings is uncertain. Social adversity, racial discrimination, family dysfunction, unemployment and poor housing conditions have been proposed as contributing factors".

    Replies: @jbwilson24, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Nuance escapes you.

    Reason escapes you.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    "Reason escapes you".

    I linked to a scientific study. Reasoning is a given.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  112. @jbwilson24
    @Corvinus

    "The study is from 2007. The authors acknowledge that “the explanation for these findings is uncertain. Social adversity, racial discrimination, family dysfunction, unemployment and poor housing conditions have been proposed as contributing factors”."

    That sounds like PC bullcrap meant to exculpate the authors from claims of racism.

    How does family dysfunction exonerate migrants? If they tend to have dysfunctional families that induce mental illness, all the more reason to keep them out.

    Unemployment? They receive generous welfare payments that they would never be entitled to back home.

    Poor housing? Slums in Pakistan vs welfare-provided apartments in Europe? That's a reason for mental illness?

    Anyone dumb enough to buy these explanations can safely be ignored.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “That sounds like PC bullcrap meant to exculpate the authors from claims of racism.”

    No, it’s just demonstrating that there are environmental factors at play besides biological links to schizophrenia.

  113. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Corvinus


    Nuance escapes you.
     
    Reason escapes you.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Reason escapes you”.

    I linked to a scientific study. Reasoning is a given.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Corvinus

    You did not interpret it correctly nor make a correct proscription based on its findings.

    How predictable.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  114. @Corvinus
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    "Reason escapes you".

    I linked to a scientific study. Reasoning is a given.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    You did not interpret it correctly nor make a correct proscription based on its findings.

    How predictable.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Anonymous

    "You did not interpret it correctly nor make a correct proscription based on its findings. How predictable."

    LOL. I simply linked to a study. The researchers made the interpretations from their data, not me. Their reasoning, as I correctly noted, is a given.

    Next time, if you are going to make a point, try to be accurate.

  115. @Anonymous
    @Corvinus

    You did not interpret it correctly nor make a correct proscription based on its findings.

    How predictable.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “You did not interpret it correctly nor make a correct proscription based on its findings. How predictable.”

    LOL. I simply linked to a study. The researchers made the interpretations from their data, not me. Their reasoning, as I correctly noted, is a given.

    Next time, if you are going to make a point, try to be accurate.

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