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With the Taliban back in the news, here’s an iSteve blog post from 2006:

With the Taliban back in the news, I have an excuse for posting more items about the tribe in Afghanistan and Pakistan that provides most of the Taliban’s support.

By the way, this was Ezra Klein’s original conception for how he would make his fortune from Vox: rather than going through all the tedious effort of writing new news everyday, Vox writers would just recycle and occasionally update their old stuff … but with attitude. Although skeptical, I also very much hoped that Ezra had hit upon an overlooked way to generate daily content.

Oh, well …

But on some topics where the fundamentals never much change, such as Afghanistan, you can just dust off old items like this letter I received from an anthropologist 15 years ago:

Here are some Pukhtun (=Pashtun = Pathan = Pushtun) proverbs (from “Generosity and Jealousy: The Swat Pukhtun of Northern Pakistan,” Charles Lindholm, Columbia University Press, 1982. Also by Lindholm, and strongly recommended is The Islamic Middle East: Tradition and Change, Blackwell, 2002)

On war and peace (p. 31)

The Pukhtun is never at peace, except when he is at war.

On women (p. 113)

Women belong in the house or in the grave.

Women have no noses. They will eat s***.

One’s own mother and sister are disgusting.

On family life (nepotism and neposchism) (p. 161)

Where there is the sound of a blow, there is respect.

When the floodwaters reach your chin, put your son beneath your feet.

While nuclear family life in Pakistan sounds hateful, and extended family life not much better, Pashtuns look forward to intimate friendships with strangers:

On friendship (p. 240)

God, grant me a true friend who, without urging, will show me his love.

Curiously, the Pukhtun have a strongly idealized notion of friendship. They say that it is honorable for a man to lie for a true friend, even with his hand on the Koran (which means that the liar goes to Hell!). While other Pukhtun are potential allies, and often must be avenged for the sake of honor, they cannot be true friends, because the element of rivalry is too strong. The ideal friend is a foreigner, providing he comes as a guest, rather than an enemy. Lindholm, although no sociobiologist, argues that a universal human nature is rearing its head here– the desire for human connection expressing itself in the cult of friendship, in what is otherwise a bitterly individualist and cutthroat culture.

There’s a certain Lawrence of Arabia feel to this … Afghanistan sometimes seems like a cultural outpost of Arabia way off in Central Asia, a little like how Serbia can seem like Russia’s little cousin.

 
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  1. All pretty much accurate and truthful, and probably very similar to the original values of Europeans. We would be wise to return to our roots.

    • Replies: @Nero
    @Anon

    Yes! 👍

  2. Biden played king log (Lear) if you prefer. He’s completely blown the neocons out of the water and exposed Trump as a fraud on his promise to get outta Afghanistan. Here’s your fuckin evacuation! Bloodless and swift. Masterful so far this week.

    • Agree: Mike_from_SGV, EdwardM
  3. Lovely people. Why don’t we just leave them alone to stand on their sons if they want to?

    • LOL: awry
  4. Women have no noses. They will eat s***.

    What does this even mean? Is the first sentence literal or metaphorical? Is the second sentence literal or metaphorical?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anonymous

    They're both metaphorical, dummy. Women have no noses, so they will eat something they cannot smell. The point is that they think women are incapable of making good judgments.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anon

    , @Nero
    @Anonymous

    It means that they are disgusting and have no redeemable qualities.

    , @C. Washington
    @Anonymous

    This is a euphemism. There is something called inability of analytical thinking, which is ascribed to a more than half of the mankind. Which is well known and supported by todays psychology.

    This proverb puts what todays psychology says into a proverb...one says, that A PICTURE IS WORTH OF A THOUSAND WORDS.

    This proverb is a picture.

  5. Sound more like a type of Mongol, Brotherhood of the saddle to me. Landlocked warrior people who don’t get many foreigners need to refresh the gene pool with equally dashing outsiders just ridden in from foreign lands. No wonder the Afghans did the occupation thing for so long. They just wanted to steal the rifle off the grunts who came to stay around for a while. I’d guess they liked having pilots and swaggering soldiers around to observe and get chummy with. Then eject and declare victory.

  6. “the desire for human connection expressing itself in the cult of friendship,”

    the desire for human connection expressing itself in the friendship of cult.

    There. Fixed it for ya.

    If their code of honor means gladly violating a basic tenet of Islam, to accept their ever-lasting place in hell, that means they’re a cult of personality first, adherents to the principals of Islam as an incidental.

    The only way to conquer a mass of devoted cult members is annihilation. The US hasn’t the belly for that, and the freaks of Afghanistan are well aware of this.

  7. Anon[209] • Disclaimer says:

    Looking at the faces of those Talibaners, could not help but think the we are soon going to hear from the D’Angelo’s and Rubin’s of the world about “White Afghans…”. Could go full Zimmerman..

    “White Afghans back to raping…

    “The problem in Afghanistan is essentially a ‘white power’ problem”

    “How the Taliban elite are the white ‘face’ of everything wrong about Afghanistan”

    swear this will come…there will also be the usual psyops–links in articles doing the usual juxtaposition and pairing of events, per usual…

    “As DHS continues to monitor white supremist, their brothers in Afghanistan raise eyebrows with…blah blah blah”

    “From Afghanistan to America, white supremist continue to cause alarm…”

    • Thanks: John Milton's Ghost
    • Replies: @Rob
    @Anon


    brothers in Afghanistan raise eyebrows
     
    When an Afghani lifts an eyebrow, he lifts quite a lot of eyebrow!
    , @Cato
    @Anon


    we are soon going to hear from the D’Angelo’s and Rubin’s of the world about “White Afghans…”
     
    Afghans vary in racial type. Some, like the Hazaras, have Mongol/Turkic blood. But the Pashto are very White-looking, tall and hairy, often with blue or green eyes. Oddly, they are whiter-looking than Iranians, Armenians, Arabs, and other peoples closer to Europe. In fact, one would have to go west as far as western Turkey before one hits a population that looks that White.

    Yet, despite their White appearance, they are very unlike the people who created our own civilization. In fact, among all of the refugees who have washed into Europe over the last decade, the Afghans stand out as the most difficult to integrate:

    https://nationalinterest.org/feature/ive-worked-refugees-decades-europes-afghan-crime-wave-mind-21506

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous

  8. Our Betters really proved their competence by getting us involved there. Afghanistan is like the hemorrhoids of Mother Earth.

  9. Who could have predicted this?

    https://twitter.com/BennyDRAMA7/status/1424834745079193600

    Allahu Akbar. GOD WILLS IT.

    But Lawrence of Arabia, a Deep Stater 1.0, felt differently focusing on the importance of Human Will. Remains to be seen how much the Taliban’s final victory was facilitated by the Deep State and the Gulf Monarchies. A wild turn of events, but the true geopolitical implications are still to be determined.

  10. It’s deja vu all over again.

  11. Steve was right. The clown the Protectorate selected President has been wrong all along.

    The electorate made our preferences plain in 2000. They have yet to be honored. By both our constitution and traditions that behavior is literally lèse-majesté.

    L’état, c’est nous

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Desiderius

    He’s owning the Libs. Ffs. Why do conservatives get it wrong at every turn? Getting out was the best move.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  12. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1427398315621105664?s=20

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1427377546824458245?s=20

    Steve was right. The clown the Protectorate selected President has been wrong all along.

    The electorate made our preferences plain in 2000. They have yet to be honored. By both our constitution and traditions that behavior is literally lèse-majesté.

    L’état, c’est nous

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    He’s owning the Libs. Ffs. Why do conservatives get it wrong at every turn? Getting out was the best move.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Wokechoke

    What do conservatives have to do with this?

    Biden is responsible for us being in in the first place and staying in. That's why the profiteers selected him. My guess is that Derp State is just changing horses now and will begin stirring up the Taliban to destabilize Xinjiang. That's why they gave them all the equipment and had their Paki client praise them.

  13. @Anonymous

    Women have no noses. They will eat s***.
     
    What does this even mean? Is the first sentence literal or metaphorical? Is the second sentence literal or metaphorical?

    Replies: @Anon, @Nero, @C. Washington

    They’re both metaphorical, dummy. Women have no noses, so they will eat something they cannot smell. The point is that they think women are incapable of making good judgments.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anon

    Tfw too unrefined to interpret caveman wisdom.

    , @Anon
    @Anon


    Women have no noses, so they will eat something they cannot smell.
     
    That is the first I’ve heard that women in general lack a sense of smell. Is it an evolutionary adaptation to make caring for children before they are potty trained less unpleasant?

    Replies: @Svevlad

  14. @Anon
    @Anonymous

    They're both metaphorical, dummy. Women have no noses, so they will eat something they cannot smell. The point is that they think women are incapable of making good judgments.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anon

    Tfw too unrefined to interpret caveman wisdom.

  15. ‘Afghanistan sometimes seems like a cultural outpost of Arabia way off in Central Asia, a little like how Serbia can seem like Russia’s little cousin.’

    Indeed. But that’s truer even than the Serbia comparison. Russians and Serbs both belong to the same pan-Slavic, Orthodox continuum. There is no genetic connections at all between Bedouins and the Taliban.

    But they are culturally connected through Wahhabism, which Ibn Wahhab started in his little oasis town in the Arabian desert in the 1700s. Ibn Wahhab’s teachings were so brutal that his own tribesmen exiled him. He went about preaching his faith throughout the Arabian desert. Eventually his followers grew so troublesome that they were exiled to India/Pakistan, where they founded the Deobandi order of mosques and religious schools.

    The Deobandis later evangelized the Pashtuns. Their movement educated the first leaders of the Taliban. Therefore, some of the ‘ancient Pashtun wisdom’ you are quoting might just be cultural appropriation from the original disgusting desert people, the Bedouin Arabs.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Nimrod

    Thanks.

    , @kaganovitch
    @Nimrod

    Eventually his followers grew so troublesome that they were exiled to India/Pakistan, where they founded the Deobandi order of mosques and religious schools.

    Nah, the Deobandi were home grown Indians. They were admirers of Abdl Wahab though.

    Replies: @Nimrod

    , @Svevlad
    @Nimrod

    I've heard somewhere that Wahhab was almost executed, because the Ottomans really really REALLY didn't like him. And the tribe, not exactly being keen into being hunted down and pestered constantly by everyone and their dog as a result, basically wanted him dead, but decided to send him off in the last second.

    Well, hindsight is 20/20...

  16. @Nimrod
    'Afghanistan sometimes seems like a cultural outpost of Arabia way off in Central Asia, a little like how Serbia can seem like Russia’s little cousin.'

    Indeed. But that's truer even than the Serbia comparison. Russians and Serbs both belong to the same pan-Slavic, Orthodox continuum. There is no genetic connections at all between Bedouins and the Taliban.

    But they are culturally connected through Wahhabism, which Ibn Wahhab started in his little oasis town in the Arabian desert in the 1700s. Ibn Wahhab's teachings were so brutal that his own tribesmen exiled him. He went about preaching his faith throughout the Arabian desert. Eventually his followers grew so troublesome that they were exiled to India/Pakistan, where they founded the Deobandi order of mosques and religious schools.

    The Deobandis later evangelized the Pashtuns. Their movement educated the first leaders of the Taliban. Therefore, some of the 'ancient Pashtun wisdom' you are quoting might just be cultural appropriation from the original disgusting desert people, the Bedouin Arabs.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @kaganovitch, @Svevlad

    Thanks.

  17. Women belong in the house or in the grave.
    Women have no noses. They will eat s***.
    One’s own mother and sister are disgusting.

    Much of “frog” Twitter seem to consider this “based” these days.

    • Thanks: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @Anatoly Karlin

    Mothers are a threat to some autistic men because - mothers are women...

  18. Is this the natural progression of an “incel/black pill” ideology?

  19. Pashtuns are snappy dressers.

  20. Afghanistan has a lot of extreme ethnic stories.

    The last two Jews in the country gave an extreme performance of their infamous “2 Jews, 3 Synagogues” attitude.

    Simintov had lived in the synagogue with the second-last remaining Jewish man in Afghanistan, Ishaq (Isaac) Levin, who died on 26 January 2005, aged around 80. The story of Simintov and Levin was the basis for a British play. Simintov deprecated Levin in an interview with British journalist Martin Fletcher. Levin had initially welcomed Simintov but the two fell out permanently when Simintov offered the caretaker help to emigrate to Israel to join the rest of the former Kabul Jewish community. Simintov was adamant he made the suggestion only as he thought Kabul was too cold for the old man, but the older man took umbrage, claiming Simintov was trying to take over the synagogue. A feud ensued, with the Taliban becoming involved after both men reported each other to the authorities for alleged wrongdoings ranging from running a brothel to misappropriating religious objects. After Levin’s death, Simintov said he was not sad and would not miss him.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zablon_Simintov

    Supposedly they were also previously imprisoned by the Taliban for being “argumentative”, but were later released when the Taliban got bored of their constant arguing from jail.

  21. @Anon
    Looking at the faces of those Talibaners, could not help but think the we are soon going to hear from the D'Angelo's and Rubin's of the world about "White Afghans...". Could go full Zimmerman..

    "White Afghans back to raping...

    "The problem in Afghanistan is essentially a 'white power' problem"

    "How the Taliban elite are the white 'face' of everything wrong about Afghanistan"

    swear this will come...there will also be the usual psyops--links in articles doing the usual juxtaposition and pairing of events, per usual...

    "As DHS continues to monitor white supremist, their brothers in Afghanistan raise eyebrows with...blah blah blah"

    "From Afghanistan to America, white supremist continue to cause alarm..."

    Replies: @Rob, @Cato

    brothers in Afghanistan raise eyebrows

    When an Afghani lifts an eyebrow, he lifts quite a lot of eyebrow!

  22. @Nimrod
    'Afghanistan sometimes seems like a cultural outpost of Arabia way off in Central Asia, a little like how Serbia can seem like Russia’s little cousin.'

    Indeed. But that's truer even than the Serbia comparison. Russians and Serbs both belong to the same pan-Slavic, Orthodox continuum. There is no genetic connections at all between Bedouins and the Taliban.

    But they are culturally connected through Wahhabism, which Ibn Wahhab started in his little oasis town in the Arabian desert in the 1700s. Ibn Wahhab's teachings were so brutal that his own tribesmen exiled him. He went about preaching his faith throughout the Arabian desert. Eventually his followers grew so troublesome that they were exiled to India/Pakistan, where they founded the Deobandi order of mosques and religious schools.

    The Deobandis later evangelized the Pashtuns. Their movement educated the first leaders of the Taliban. Therefore, some of the 'ancient Pashtun wisdom' you are quoting might just be cultural appropriation from the original disgusting desert people, the Bedouin Arabs.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @kaganovitch, @Svevlad

    Eventually his followers grew so troublesome that they were exiled to India/Pakistan, where they founded the Deobandi order of mosques and religious schools.

    Nah, the Deobandi were home grown Indians. They were admirers of Abdl Wahab though.

    • Replies: @Nimrod
    @kaganovitch

    On the contrary, there are actual physical links between Wahhabis in Arabia and India. I can't recall who exactly they were, but there were indeed transitional figures who directly seeded the Hindu Kush with Arab fundamentalism.

    Charles Allen's book God's Terrorists: the Wahhabi Cult and the Hidden Roots of Modern Jihad extensively discusses the people who played a key role in seeding Wahhabism into the Deobandi movement. Exiles from the first Saudi state brought Wahhabism into the Hindu Kush mountains. Their followers eventually wound up converting most of the inhabitants of Kafiristan, now Nuristan, to Islam, from whatever pre-Vedic version of Hinduism the tribesmen believed in.

    Only a small remnant of people in the Hindu Kush still believe in the old pre-Vedic cults. Interestingly, Razib Khan's blog discusses an interview with an Army intel officer from 2001 who talked to a Pashtun tribesman fighting for the Taliban who claimed to believe in some sort of sun god. I heard stories from grunts who visited Afghan villages where the locals thought we were Russians, but nowhere else have I encountered a throwback story quite like that.

  23. @Anon
    Looking at the faces of those Talibaners, could not help but think the we are soon going to hear from the D'Angelo's and Rubin's of the world about "White Afghans...". Could go full Zimmerman..

    "White Afghans back to raping...

    "The problem in Afghanistan is essentially a 'white power' problem"

    "How the Taliban elite are the white 'face' of everything wrong about Afghanistan"

    swear this will come...there will also be the usual psyops--links in articles doing the usual juxtaposition and pairing of events, per usual...

    "As DHS continues to monitor white supremist, their brothers in Afghanistan raise eyebrows with...blah blah blah"

    "From Afghanistan to America, white supremist continue to cause alarm..."

    Replies: @Rob, @Cato

    we are soon going to hear from the D’Angelo’s and Rubin’s of the world about “White Afghans…”

    Afghans vary in racial type. Some, like the Hazaras, have Mongol/Turkic blood. But the Pashto are very White-looking, tall and hairy, often with blue or green eyes. Oddly, they are whiter-looking than Iranians, Armenians, Arabs, and other peoples closer to Europe. In fact, one would have to go west as far as western Turkey before one hits a population that looks that White.

    Yet, despite their White appearance, they are very unlike the people who created our own civilization. In fact, among all of the refugees who have washed into Europe over the last decade, the Afghans stand out as the most difficult to integrate:

    https://nationalinterest.org/feature/ive-worked-refugees-decades-europes-afghan-crime-wave-mind-21506

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Cato

    That's a theme of Kipling's "Man Who Would Be King." Danny says the Kafiristanis are white and sit in chairs, so he can nation-build them. Peachy thinks they should take the jewels and run.

    Huston's movie was going to be shot in a white part of Turkey, but then it wound up in swarthy Morocco, so that theme got lost because the local extras for crowd scenes are pretty dark.

    , @Anonymous
    @Cato

    That article is hilarious.


    But there was one development that had not been expected, and was not tolerable: the large and growing incidence of sexual assaults committed by refugees against local women.
     
    *surprised Pikachu face*

    But for refugees to become perpetrators of this crime in the place that had given them asylum? That was something new.
     
    Sure.

    Well, first of all, these young men are “ours.” They grew up during the years in which we were the dominant influence and paymaster in Afghan society. Since 2001, we have spent billions on an Afghan school system that we like to cite as one of our greatest accomplishments.
     
    LMAO

    It will require rigorous vetting indeed to weed out such deeply disturbed, degenerate young males whose willingness to be deceptive is so pronounced and whose motives are so irrational.
     
    Oh yeah, that'll solve it.
  24. Pukhtun (=Pashtun = Pathan = Pushtun)

    = Pushmi-pullyu

    Where there is the sound of a blow, there is respect.

    [MORE]

  25. @Cato
    @Anon


    we are soon going to hear from the D’Angelo’s and Rubin’s of the world about “White Afghans…”
     
    Afghans vary in racial type. Some, like the Hazaras, have Mongol/Turkic blood. But the Pashto are very White-looking, tall and hairy, often with blue or green eyes. Oddly, they are whiter-looking than Iranians, Armenians, Arabs, and other peoples closer to Europe. In fact, one would have to go west as far as western Turkey before one hits a population that looks that White.

    Yet, despite their White appearance, they are very unlike the people who created our own civilization. In fact, among all of the refugees who have washed into Europe over the last decade, the Afghans stand out as the most difficult to integrate:

    https://nationalinterest.org/feature/ive-worked-refugees-decades-europes-afghan-crime-wave-mind-21506

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous

    That’s a theme of Kipling’s “Man Who Would Be King.” Danny says the Kafiristanis are white and sit in chairs, so he can nation-build them. Peachy thinks they should take the jewels and run.

    Huston’s movie was going to be shot in a white part of Turkey, but then it wound up in swarthy Morocco, so that theme got lost because the local extras for crowd scenes are pretty dark.

  26. Nick Diaz [AKA "Rockford Tyson"] says:

    Afghanistan is a country that I wouldn’t mind if it were wiped out with a carpet bombing of nukes. The Russians could very well have tested the Tsar Bomba over it. That would be nice. Wasted opportunity. I hate all religions, but in particular these barbaric Semitic religions that keep women locked up and in veils, genitally mutilate boys and try to murder you for even questioning their dogma.

    • Replies: @Gabe Ruth
    @Nick Diaz

    Atheist chauvinism is best chauvinism, zero self awareness.

  27. Anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    Afghanistan, if you look at a map, suffers from a peculiar problem. They’ve never had a country with a genuinely superior culture on their borders to learn from. Their neighbors are Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tadjikistan, Pakistan, and Iran. Iran had a bit of culture going about 2500 years ago, but for the rest of it, they’re all losers. Afghanistan does touch China at one tiny point, but the Chinese until this century were notorious stay-at-homes who didn’t like making the big trek west though desert wastes.

    Afghanistan is also landlocked, meaning they never had a city with a cosmopolitan ocean port to be an engine for cultural change. They’re a stagnant culture that has been stultifying for centuries.

    Afghanistan has mountains that cover most of the country, and this tends to discourage trade, cultural exchanges, and outbreeding with people with better genes. You can sit in your mountain village for thousands of years and breed with your close neighbors, and never be bothered by anything from the outside. Except for items like cell phones and rifles, Afghans aren’t likely very different from the original Indo-Europeans when they started their original spread a few thousand years ago.

    • Replies: @Kjr
    @Anon

    Glad you did that as an Anon because you made it all up. It genuinely sounds like you just looked at a map and started writing!

    Wrong about Uzbekistan not having had a worthy culture. Wrong about the Chinese not having come through. You made no mention of the Silk Route for that matter. And you neglected to mention all of the different peoples that indelibly marked one part of the country or another from the Greeks to the Buddhists to the Hindus to the Zoroastrians to the Sikhs to the British.

    I mean really man!

  28. There’s a certain Lawrence of Arabia feel to this

  29. Sage advice from those Pashtun tribesmen. If we in the land of gender “correction” surgery are to have any sort of functioning civilization, white women will henceforth need to have their mouths stapled shut.

    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @Rubiyat

    Yes, what American wouldn't swap their lifestyle for that of remote Helmand province? Truly, those tribal Pashtuns are the world experts on how to create a stable, advanced and lovely polity. Who else are you going to get such "sage advice" from? Perhaps a cannibal Hutu militiaman in Eastern Congo?

    Replies: @Anon, @Rubiyat

  30. @Anon
    @Anonymous

    They're both metaphorical, dummy. Women have no noses, so they will eat something they cannot smell. The point is that they think women are incapable of making good judgments.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anon

    Women have no noses, so they will eat something they cannot smell.

    That is the first I’ve heard that women in general lack a sense of smell. Is it an evolutionary adaptation to make caring for children before they are potty trained less unpleasant?

    • Replies: @Svevlad
    @Anon

    Nope, women actually have a keener sense of smell than men.

    The proverb itself means that women are foolhardy and shallow

  31. @Anatoly Karlin

    Women belong in the house or in the grave.
    Women have no noses. They will eat s***.
    One’s own mother and sister are disgusting.
     
    Much of "frog" Twitter seem to consider this "based" these days.

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    Mothers are a threat to some autistic men because – mothers are women…

  32. @Anon
    Afghanistan, if you look at a map, suffers from a peculiar problem. They've never had a country with a genuinely superior culture on their borders to learn from. Their neighbors are Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tadjikistan, Pakistan, and Iran. Iran had a bit of culture going about 2500 years ago, but for the rest of it, they're all losers. Afghanistan does touch China at one tiny point, but the Chinese until this century were notorious stay-at-homes who didn't like making the big trek west though desert wastes.

    Afghanistan is also landlocked, meaning they never had a city with a cosmopolitan ocean port to be an engine for cultural change. They're a stagnant culture that has been stultifying for centuries.

    Afghanistan has mountains that cover most of the country, and this tends to discourage trade, cultural exchanges, and outbreeding with people with better genes. You can sit in your mountain village for thousands of years and breed with your close neighbors, and never be bothered by anything from the outside. Except for items like cell phones and rifles, Afghans aren't likely very different from the original Indo-Europeans when they started their original spread a few thousand years ago.

    Replies: @Kjr

    Glad you did that as an Anon because you made it all up. It genuinely sounds like you just looked at a map and started writing!

    Wrong about Uzbekistan not having had a worthy culture. Wrong about the Chinese not having come through. You made no mention of the Silk Route for that matter. And you neglected to mention all of the different peoples that indelibly marked one part of the country or another from the Greeks to the Buddhists to the Hindus to the Zoroastrians to the Sikhs to the British.

    I mean really man!

  33. @Wokechoke
    @Desiderius

    He’s owning the Libs. Ffs. Why do conservatives get it wrong at every turn? Getting out was the best move.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    What do conservatives have to do with this?

    Biden is responsible for us being in in the first place and staying in. That’s why the profiteers selected him. My guess is that Derp State is just changing horses now and will begin stirring up the Taliban to destabilize Xinjiang. That’s why they gave them all the equipment and had their Paki client praise them.

  34. Biden’s speech reminded me of Steve’s “shareholder value” screed to an extent that was almost eerie to hear from a U.S. president. Even Trump liked to claim that the “bad guys” he was negotiating with had changed their ways (e.g. Kim Jong-un, the Taliban), but Biden didn’t bother in the slightest with the pretense.

    • Agree: Triteleia Laxa
  35. @Rubiyat
    Sage advice from those Pashtun tribesmen. If we in the land of gender "correction" surgery are to have any sort of functioning civilization, white women will henceforth need to have their mouths stapled shut.

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa

    Yes, what American wouldn’t swap their lifestyle for that of remote Helmand province? Truly, those tribal Pashtuns are the world experts on how to create a stable, advanced and lovely polity. Who else are you going to get such “sage advice” from? Perhaps a cannibal Hutu militiaman in Eastern Congo?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Triteleia Laxa


    Pashtuns are the world experts on how to create a stable, advanced and lovely polity
     
    I don't know about that, but they do make some pretty good cricketers.


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Iftikhar_Ali_Khan_Pataudi_1931cr.jpg

    https://p.imgci.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/222900/222975.jpg

    https://img1.hscicdn.com/image/upload/f_auto,t_gn_f_345/lsci/db/PICTURES/CMS/319900/319939.png

    Not to leave out:
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/-UNGA_%2848784380531%29_%28cropped%29.jpg

    And, if we are to believe the British, life is basically like a game of cricket.
    , @Rubiyat
    @Triteleia Laxa

    The west was great in spite of all the rights we gave you deadweight holes. It's going straight into the gutter because we generously let you useless yapping c*nts vote.

  36. Anonymous[865] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cato
    @Anon


    we are soon going to hear from the D’Angelo’s and Rubin’s of the world about “White Afghans…”
     
    Afghans vary in racial type. Some, like the Hazaras, have Mongol/Turkic blood. But the Pashto are very White-looking, tall and hairy, often with blue or green eyes. Oddly, they are whiter-looking than Iranians, Armenians, Arabs, and other peoples closer to Europe. In fact, one would have to go west as far as western Turkey before one hits a population that looks that White.

    Yet, despite their White appearance, they are very unlike the people who created our own civilization. In fact, among all of the refugees who have washed into Europe over the last decade, the Afghans stand out as the most difficult to integrate:

    https://nationalinterest.org/feature/ive-worked-refugees-decades-europes-afghan-crime-wave-mind-21506

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous

    That article is hilarious.

    But there was one development that had not been expected, and was not tolerable: the large and growing incidence of sexual assaults committed by refugees against local women.

    *surprised Pikachu face*

    But for refugees to become perpetrators of this crime in the place that had given them asylum? That was something new.

    Sure.

    Well, first of all, these young men are “ours.” They grew up during the years in which we were the dominant influence and paymaster in Afghan society. Since 2001, we have spent billions on an Afghan school system that we like to cite as one of our greatest accomplishments.

    LMAO

    It will require rigorous vetting indeed to weed out such deeply disturbed, degenerate young males whose willingness to be deceptive is so pronounced and whose motives are so irrational.

    Oh yeah, that’ll solve it.

  37. @Anonymous

    Women have no noses. They will eat s***.
     
    What does this even mean? Is the first sentence literal or metaphorical? Is the second sentence literal or metaphorical?

    Replies: @Anon, @Nero, @C. Washington

    It means that they are disgusting and have no redeemable qualities.

  38. @Anon
    All pretty much accurate and truthful, and probably very similar to the original values of Europeans. We would be wise to return to our roots.

    Replies: @Nero

    Yes! 👍

  39. All seems very patriarchal – and even white. But is it binary? I’m not sure.

  40. Anon[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Triteleia Laxa
    @Rubiyat

    Yes, what American wouldn't swap their lifestyle for that of remote Helmand province? Truly, those tribal Pashtuns are the world experts on how to create a stable, advanced and lovely polity. Who else are you going to get such "sage advice" from? Perhaps a cannibal Hutu militiaman in Eastern Congo?

    Replies: @Anon, @Rubiyat

    Pashtuns are the world experts on how to create a stable, advanced and lovely polity

    I don’t know about that, but they do make some pretty good cricketers.

    [MORE]

    Not to leave out:

    And, if we are to believe the British, life is basically like a game of cricket.

  41. @Triteleia Laxa
    @Rubiyat

    Yes, what American wouldn't swap their lifestyle for that of remote Helmand province? Truly, those tribal Pashtuns are the world experts on how to create a stable, advanced and lovely polity. Who else are you going to get such "sage advice" from? Perhaps a cannibal Hutu militiaman in Eastern Congo?

    Replies: @Anon, @Rubiyat

    The west was great in spite of all the rights we gave you deadweight holes. It’s going straight into the gutter because we generously let you useless yapping c*nts vote.

  42. @kaganovitch
    @Nimrod

    Eventually his followers grew so troublesome that they were exiled to India/Pakistan, where they founded the Deobandi order of mosques and religious schools.

    Nah, the Deobandi were home grown Indians. They were admirers of Abdl Wahab though.

    Replies: @Nimrod

    On the contrary, there are actual physical links between Wahhabis in Arabia and India. I can’t recall who exactly they were, but there were indeed transitional figures who directly seeded the Hindu Kush with Arab fundamentalism.

    Charles Allen’s book God’s Terrorists: the Wahhabi Cult and the Hidden Roots of Modern Jihad extensively discusses the people who played a key role in seeding Wahhabism into the Deobandi movement. Exiles from the first Saudi state brought Wahhabism into the Hindu Kush mountains. Their followers eventually wound up converting most of the inhabitants of Kafiristan, now Nuristan, to Islam, from whatever pre-Vedic version of Hinduism the tribesmen believed in.

    Only a small remnant of people in the Hindu Kush still believe in the old pre-Vedic cults. Interestingly, Razib Khan’s blog discusses an interview with an Army intel officer from 2001 who talked to a Pashtun tribesman fighting for the Taliban who claimed to believe in some sort of sun god. I heard stories from grunts who visited Afghan villages where the locals thought we were Russians, but nowhere else have I encountered a throwback story quite like that.

  43. @Nick Diaz
    Afghanistan is a country that I wouldn't mind if it were wiped out with a carpet bombing of nukes. The Russians could very well have tested the Tsar Bomba over it. That would be nice. Wasted opportunity. I hate all religions, but in particular these barbaric Semitic religions that keep women locked up and in veils, genitally mutilate boys and try to murder you for even questioning their dogma.

    Replies: @Gabe Ruth

    Atheist chauvinism is best chauvinism, zero self awareness.

  44. @Anon
    @Anon


    Women have no noses, so they will eat something they cannot smell.
     
    That is the first I’ve heard that women in general lack a sense of smell. Is it an evolutionary adaptation to make caring for children before they are potty trained less unpleasant?

    Replies: @Svevlad

    Nope, women actually have a keener sense of smell than men.

    The proverb itself means that women are foolhardy and shallow

  45. @Nimrod
    'Afghanistan sometimes seems like a cultural outpost of Arabia way off in Central Asia, a little like how Serbia can seem like Russia’s little cousin.'

    Indeed. But that's truer even than the Serbia comparison. Russians and Serbs both belong to the same pan-Slavic, Orthodox continuum. There is no genetic connections at all between Bedouins and the Taliban.

    But they are culturally connected through Wahhabism, which Ibn Wahhab started in his little oasis town in the Arabian desert in the 1700s. Ibn Wahhab's teachings were so brutal that his own tribesmen exiled him. He went about preaching his faith throughout the Arabian desert. Eventually his followers grew so troublesome that they were exiled to India/Pakistan, where they founded the Deobandi order of mosques and religious schools.

    The Deobandis later evangelized the Pashtuns. Their movement educated the first leaders of the Taliban. Therefore, some of the 'ancient Pashtun wisdom' you are quoting might just be cultural appropriation from the original disgusting desert people, the Bedouin Arabs.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @kaganovitch, @Svevlad

    I’ve heard somewhere that Wahhab was almost executed, because the Ottomans really really REALLY didn’t like him. And the tribe, not exactly being keen into being hunted down and pestered constantly by everyone and their dog as a result, basically wanted him dead, but decided to send him off in the last second.

    Well, hindsight is 20/20…

  46. @Anonymous

    Women have no noses. They will eat s***.
     
    What does this even mean? Is the first sentence literal or metaphorical? Is the second sentence literal or metaphorical?

    Replies: @Anon, @Nero, @C. Washington

    This is a euphemism. There is something called inability of analytical thinking, which is ascribed to a more than half of the mankind. Which is well known and supported by todays psychology.

    This proverb puts what todays psychology says into a proverb…one says, that A PICTURE IS WORTH OF A THOUSAND WORDS.

    This proverb is a picture.

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