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From Justice Sotomayor’s dissent in Utah v. Strieff:

For a dissenting view on the philosopher of “black bodies” and “people who believe they are white,” see my “The First Rule of White Club.”

 
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  1. Hildabeast’s popularity has actually gone up in the polls after the Orlando terrorist attack.

    It’s the fault of Donald Trump and White Christian Republicans that this terrorist attack occurred really does resonate with the majority of American voters.

    Islamic Terrorist attacks on U.S soil really does politically benefit the Left more than the Right. The more terrorist attacks occur, the more American voters flock to Hildabeast.

    • Replies: @27 year old
    @Jefferson

    I have to suspect that these polls are fraudulent, and that certain people are trying to meme the reality they want into existence. Jazzhands McFeels and Marcus Halberstram (hosts of weekly Fash The Nation) have described that the current polls are using D +10 and above samples. Meaning they are oversampling Democrats. Which, you see goy, makes sense, based on the primary turnout R vs D.

    Replies: @Ed, @Jacobsson, @415 reasons

    , @Anonymous
    @Jefferson

    "Hildabeast’s popularity has actually gone up in the polls after the Orlando terrorist attack."

    The narrative is very strong and has many true believers. It's a bit mind-boggling, but it appears to be hard to deny.

    , @Federalist
    @Jefferson

    I've pretty much given up hope for our society.

    , @boogerbently
    @Jefferson

    What makes you think that our (western European society) will respond any differently than the western Europeans of today ?
    Please excuse me for making you into violent, ignorant rapists by my white privilege. It's all my fault, really.

    , @EriK
    @Jefferson

    I haven't seen much of HRC lately, which is generally when she polls best.

    Replies: @rod1963

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Jefferson


    The more terrorist attacks occur, the more American voters flock to Hildabeast.
     
    Yes, because we know that the polls are never used to push a point of view; we know that the media is totally objective and fair and wants the best for everyone!

    Cease and desist, you are re-transmitting their propaganda.
    , @Glaivester
    @Jefferson

    I'd be cautious about this - it's true that Trump is being pilloried in the media, and that is having an effect, but it seems to me that if he keeps onto the "it's the Muslims, stupid!" and the "it's the immigration, stupid!" message, eventually the message will get through and the media's attacks will have diminishing returns.

    Also, note that the poll with the largest sample size only has Hillary up by 2 points - it also appears, judging by the numbers, to be the only poll that forces you to choose and not say "I don't know."

    Trump may do better with (currently) undecideds than we think.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20160619165331/http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

    , @rod1963
    @Jefferson

    This is the MSM we're talking about, that is totally in the tank for Hillary and all these folks do is gaslight us. So be careful of the narrative they are trying to sell you on, it's probably based on lies. Just like they sold us on Iraqi WMD's and the Kuwati babies being bayoneted by Iraqi soldiers.

    In short they're real scum bags and frauds.

    Don't buy into their c**p.

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Jefferson

    Don't you get it? In the minds of most liberals this was not a Muslim terrorist attack. The idea that Muslims are often violent homophobes is one that liberals just refuse to accept. Too much cognitive dissonance. Liberals will agree that Muslim terrorists methods are wrong, but usually still try to justify the rationale behind the attack - it's a response to colonialism, CharlieHebdo went too far, "blowback", etc. Here we just have pure Muslim hatred of Western decadence, i.e. liberalism. Hence, the Orlando attack has to blamed on something else, such as "toxic masculinity" or guns.

    At the same time, the fact that Mateen targeted mostly gay latinos probably does mean the typical working class straight white swing voter may not take the attack as personally and was more likely to see Trump's response as a little self-centered and tone deaf. If Mateen had killed 50 white Christians while praying you would have seen Trump's numbers rise.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Nico, @Jefferson, @Perplexed

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Jefferson

    That's not correct.

    Trump's support has risen slightly since the attack. He's behind by 5% nationally.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

  2. black and brown children : the world’s worst listeners.

  3. Any honest arbiter of justice would have also cited Mr. Derbyshire’s “The Talk: Non-Black Version” as a counterpoint.

    • Replies: @Jeff77450
    @Oscar

    Good point. If NAMs are disproportionately scrutinized by the police it's because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime. Proof is at the FBI website.

  4. @Jefferson
    Hildabeast's popularity has actually gone up in the polls after the Orlando terrorist attack.

    It's the fault of Donald Trump and White Christian Republicans that this terrorist attack occurred really does resonate with the majority of American voters.

    Islamic Terrorist attacks on U.S soil really does politically benefit the Left more than the Right. The more terrorist attacks occur, the more American voters flock to Hildabeast.

    Replies: @27 year old, @Anonymous, @Federalist, @boogerbently, @EriK, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Glaivester, @rod1963, @Peter Akuleyev, @JohnnyWalker123

    I have to suspect that these polls are fraudulent, and that certain people are trying to meme the reality they want into existence. Jazzhands McFeels and Marcus Halberstram (hosts of weekly Fash The Nation) have described that the current polls are using D +10 and above samples. Meaning they are oversampling Democrats. Which, you see goy, makes sense, based on the primary turnout R vs D.

    • Replies: @Ed
    @27 year old

    Naw they're legit. He's being massacred in the media. For example Morning Joe has started off his show in the last two weeks on some variation of an anti-Trump crusade. These assaults on Trump in the media hurt him with women, in particular white women, who want to be viewed on being on the good side.

    The polls show Trump doing well with white men but not well with white women. Thus he's behind. Ironically he's matching Romney with non-whites. If Trump loses it'll be because white women put their own narcissism over their children's futures. Well the ones that have kids' atleast.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @RadicalCenter, @AnotherDad

    , @Jacobsson
    @27 year old

    True. But until the election happens, we don't know what the right proportion is, do we?

    I'm no expert but I have vague memories of this sampling talk in 2012.

    +10 is likely wrong but +5 might be right and thats a tall task for any candidate.

    , @415 reasons
    @27 year old

    All throughout 2012 I convinced myself the polls must be biased. It was a cute theory that explained a lot and turned out to be 100% wrong. A simpler explanation of the polls and election results is that we are rapidly approaching (or whizzed past without realizing) the point where the Democrats efforts to elect a new people have made the Democrats the permanent ruling party. Kind of like Sovier Russia but at least there you could understand what their end game was. Here the PC crazy train has no brakes.

    Replies: @candid_observer

  5. I guess those colored folks don’t listen too well. I gave my kids the exact same talk about cops. She could have quoted me instead of Teh Genius.

  6. Is Coates really one of the brightest black minds of the Democrat coalition?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @AndrewR

    "Is Coates really one of the brightest black minds of the Democrat coalition?"

    Yes he is. Why is that hard to believe? The bar is not set very high for what qualifies as a bright Black mind of the Democratic coalition.

    Replies: @AndrewR

  7. Fantastic stuff:

    It says that your body is subject to invasion…We must not pretend that the countless people who are routinely targeted by police are “isolated.” They are the canaries in the coal mine whose deaths, civil and literal, warn us that no one can breathe in this atmosphere. See L. Guinier & G. Torres, The Miner’s Canary 274–283 (2002).

  8. ““people who believe they are white,”

    That is how the mainstream media feels about Islamic terrorists. “People Who Believe They Are Muslims”. The MSM always say these terrorists are not real Muslims. Only in their heads are they Muslims.

    Yet the “People Who Believe They Are Muslims” crowd are the first ones to say that Timothy McVeigh and Adolf Hitler are the real true faces of Christianity, even though it has been well documented that Adolf Hitler was an Atheist. There is no way that Adolf would have worshipped a Jew (Jesus Christ). Adolf would have sent Jesus to the gas chamber.

  9. These Sotomayor footnotes are so vague they are a joke. Why doesn’t she just say whatever she wants, and then footnote reference the 11th Edition of the Encyclopedia Brittanica, with copious Ibid.s thereafter? Alternatively, she could cite the Nancy Drew books or the complete Perry Mason series, now, on DVD.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @SPMoore8

    "These Sotomayor footnotes are so vague they are a joke."

    They are indeed. And I'd be laughing if she were sitting on the high court of some other country.

    "Why doesn’t she just say whatever she wants, and then footnote reference the 11th Edition of the Encyclopedia Brittanica, with copious Ibid.s thereafter?"

    Are you sure this wise Latina actually knows what "Ibid." means?

    "Alternatively, she could cite the Nancy Drew books or the complete Perry Mason series, now, on DVD."

    Too white.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @in the middle

    , @Clyde
    @SPMoore8

    This grandstanding idiot Sotomayor with her big dissent today. No black or minority is involved this case. Just a white man who was stopped by the police and found to have meth or other drugs in his automobile. She piggishly seized this as her opportunity to show solidarity with BLM, by going off on her own racial tangent. I hear the libs loved it immediately, commented immediately and this is whom she is playing to.

    Ironic given the firestorm that hit Trump when he complained about a biased Hispanic judge. Sotamayor is a fine example of one.

    , @syonredux
    @SPMoore8

    RE: Sotomayor's struggles with English,


    Judge Sonia Sotomayor said in a 1996 speech at Princeton University’s Third World Center (now called the Carl A. Fields Center) that when she arrived at Princeton in 1972 as her high school’s valedictorian, “I found out that my Latina background had created difficulties in my writing that I needed to overcome. For example, in Spanish we do not have adjectives. A noun is described with a preposition…. My writing was stilted and overly complicated, my grammar and vocabulary skills weak.”
     
    You know, I don't even speak Spanish, but....

    libro rojo

    red book

    pluma roja

    red pen

    libros rojos

    red books

    plumas rojas

    red pens

    Maybe Sonia is semi-literate in two languages?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Josh, @artichoke, @Hibernian

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @SPMoore8

    The only two reasons I voted for McCain (Shithead - AZ) are named Kagan and Sotomayer. I know some of you all are not on board with the Donald, but a Hillary win would mean three more of these AA morons on the Supremes.

    Replies: @Former Darfur

  10. Marty [AKA "Harvard Hates America"] says:

    Well, this has to be your strangest post ever, Steve. You start quotation of Sotomayor’s dissent right after she acknowledges that the respondent is white? In other words, the cops make an unlawful, no-individualized-suspicion Terry stop on a white guy, indicating maybe they don’t single out darkskins, and she immediately goes into her “woe is us” routine? Isn’t that psychopathy?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Marty

    It's standard-issue tribalism. No universal principles. Just who vs whom.

    Of course to be a Progressive in good standing these days, one may not complain about any double standards that favor any Victim Group.

    , @bomag
    @Marty


    Isn’t that psychopathy?
     
    Not that, but it shows you that Sotomayor et al come hard wired with a belief in the Narrative, and believe that quoting pop culture bolsters their case.
  11. This business about “the talk” is unintentionally revealing of the parenting attitudes of some minorities. My parents never explicitly told me to be deferential to the cops, not because of white privilege, but because it was literally unthinkable that I would act otherwise. If you have to sit your 16-year-old down and say, “Look, son, if the cops approach you, don’t run, yell, ball up your fists…” you’ve probably already bungled things beyond saving. I imagine there are many black families who would agree with this and who are put off by this idea that black kids have to have this spelled out to them.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    @Jean Cocteausten

    It's exactly because cops expect insolence and provocation at every citizen encounter that this talk is necessary with your kids.

    , @Jeremiahjohnbalaya
    @Jean Cocteausten

    Heck, my mom was once furious at me for not yessering a cop. If my dad had been present, I probably would have ended up in the next room ,with a brand new, body-sized hole in the wall.

    Replies: @OFWHAP

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Jean Cocteausten

    Jean, Properly given, by a caring black parent, the "Talk"would be: " When you see two or more brothers approaching you or one bro with a gun, run like your ass is on fire. And run serpentine with your head down. If you see a cop run toward him screaming for help. Otherwise kid, you're on your own. Now run and get me a pack of menthols."

    , @Jeff77450
    @Jean Cocteausten

    Very well said.

  12. @Jefferson
    Hildabeast's popularity has actually gone up in the polls after the Orlando terrorist attack.

    It's the fault of Donald Trump and White Christian Republicans that this terrorist attack occurred really does resonate with the majority of American voters.

    Islamic Terrorist attacks on U.S soil really does politically benefit the Left more than the Right. The more terrorist attacks occur, the more American voters flock to Hildabeast.

    Replies: @27 year old, @Anonymous, @Federalist, @boogerbently, @EriK, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Glaivester, @rod1963, @Peter Akuleyev, @JohnnyWalker123

    “Hildabeast’s popularity has actually gone up in the polls after the Orlando terrorist attack.”

    The narrative is very strong and has many true believers. It’s a bit mind-boggling, but it appears to be hard to deny.

  13. @SPMoore8
    These Sotomayor footnotes are so vague they are a joke. Why doesn't she just say whatever she wants, and then footnote reference the 11th Edition of the Encyclopedia Brittanica, with copious Ibid.s thereafter? Alternatively, she could cite the Nancy Drew books or the complete Perry Mason series, now, on DVD.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Clyde, @syonredux, @Jim Don Bob

    “These Sotomayor footnotes are so vague they are a joke.”

    They are indeed. And I’d be laughing if she were sitting on the high court of some other country.

    “Why doesn’t she just say whatever she wants, and then footnote reference the 11th Edition of the Encyclopedia Brittanica, with copious Ibid.s thereafter?”

    Are you sure this wise Latina actually knows what “Ibid.” means?

    “Alternatively, she could cite the Nancy Drew books or the complete Perry Mason series, now, on DVD.”

    Too white.

    • Agree: SPMoore8
    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Kylie

    Well, back when she was running for SCOTUS, Sotomayor talked up Nancy Drew and Perry Mason as her inspirations. So I guess if that's your intellectual base, Teh Genius Coates will seem Kantian in comparison.

    I have to agree with another poster, too, that bringing up this vague list of titles to deliver similarly vague pronunciamentos about the plight black youths, in a dissent that concerns a white guy, bespeaks a political/cultural agenda that is really inappropriate for a SCOTUS justice.

    As per the case in question, the issue was whether an illegal search that revealed a search warrant on the suspect as well as meth was legal. Who cares. I'm tired of criminals getting off on technicalities. Save the SCOTUS for serious cases.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Mr. Anon

    , @in the middle
    @Kylie

    The last word attracted my attention "too white". Then I went to see pictures of Sotomayor, and she looked 'whiter' than the rest of the court justices! Its is funny, when I was in Law Enforcement, I received radio calls such as "be in the look out for a dark white male" WTF! dark white male? hahaha, that was funny. or 'African american' why not 'black american' or really dark dark skin american, etc. This labeling is beyond pale.

    just a thought..

    Replies: @dr kill

  14. Teh-Genius Coates is good, too.

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @Steve Sailer

    "teh Genius" is genius.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, Shows what a lean source of black references Sotomayor has when she quotes Teh Genius Coates , James Baldwin and W.E.B. DuBois in a legal ruling. There were no pertinent quotes from James Brown, or Little Richard or more currently Lil Wayne? And seeing she is Latino, no Latino sources? Thurgood Marshall would cry with shame.

  15. @Jefferson
    Hildabeast's popularity has actually gone up in the polls after the Orlando terrorist attack.

    It's the fault of Donald Trump and White Christian Republicans that this terrorist attack occurred really does resonate with the majority of American voters.

    Islamic Terrorist attacks on U.S soil really does politically benefit the Left more than the Right. The more terrorist attacks occur, the more American voters flock to Hildabeast.

    Replies: @27 year old, @Anonymous, @Federalist, @boogerbently, @EriK, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Glaivester, @rod1963, @Peter Akuleyev, @JohnnyWalker123

    I’ve pretty much given up hope for our society.

    • Agree: Chrisnonymous
  16. @Kylie
    @SPMoore8

    "These Sotomayor footnotes are so vague they are a joke."

    They are indeed. And I'd be laughing if she were sitting on the high court of some other country.

    "Why doesn’t she just say whatever she wants, and then footnote reference the 11th Edition of the Encyclopedia Brittanica, with copious Ibid.s thereafter?"

    Are you sure this wise Latina actually knows what "Ibid." means?

    "Alternatively, she could cite the Nancy Drew books or the complete Perry Mason series, now, on DVD."

    Too white.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @in the middle

    Well, back when she was running for SCOTUS, Sotomayor talked up Nancy Drew and Perry Mason as her inspirations. So I guess if that’s your intellectual base, Teh Genius Coates will seem Kantian in comparison.

    I have to agree with another poster, too, that bringing up this vague list of titles to deliver similarly vague pronunciamentos about the plight black youths, in a dissent that concerns a white guy, bespeaks a political/cultural agenda that is really inappropriate for a SCOTUS justice.

    As per the case in question, the issue was whether an illegal search that revealed a search warrant on the suspect as well as meth was legal. Who cares. I’m tired of criminals getting off on technicalities. Save the SCOTUS for serious cases.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @SPMoore8

    Now that you mention it, I do recall Sotomayor citing Nancy Drew and Perry Mason as her inspirations. I wonder if she knows they're fictional characters?

    I'm not just being snarky. I read some of her writings and literally could not understand what she was trying to convey. By contrast, I could understand FLOTUS' S written grievances. They were obviously the product of an unintelligent mind. But they were intelligible.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @SPMoore8

    "Well, back when she was running for SCOTUS, Sotomayor talked up Nancy Drew and Perry Mason as her inspirations. So I guess if that’s your intellectual base, Teh Genius Coates will seem Kantian in comparison."

    You sure about that? I think it likely that a popular TV courtroom drama from the 50s is more sophisticated than most anything written by Teh Genius.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

  17. Michelle Alexander’s book, “The New Jim Crow,” is just as worthless as Coates’ work (Alexander didn’t even bother to cite most of her supposed findings). But with Coates, it’s even more apparent that you’re dealing with nonsense.

    • Replies: @John Derbyshire
    @JohnnyD

    There's a good takedown here.

    Replies: @JohnnyD

  18. I have little doubt That Teh-Nisisisisisi will crow about this for years to come, and will probably one day host a “symposium” where it will consist of him onstage with J. Sotomayor in front of a sympathetic TED-esque audience, where he makes comments about “black bodies” being “invaded” by whitey, and she grins like an idiot and nods her head and gives judicial approval.

    How far lefty jurisprudence has fallen—-now it doesn’t even rely 0n logic, just one guy’s feeling about something. She’s literally citing articles that have no statistical backup to them, just the rantings of a token-black, blame-whitey writer who apparently can read the minds of others.

    At least when Louis Brandeis gave the famous “Brandeis brief”, it was chock full of social statistics that could be, ya know, falsified, and were, ya know, pretty persuasive as an argument. But I guess arguments about legislative restrictions on working hours are a bit easier to prove with hard facts and figures than that the evil (white) police are shooting up thousands of “innocent” black men.

    (She’s also blatantly violating more advanced jurisprudence rules —by citing “legislative” facts in her opinion, as opposed to being concerned solely with “judicial” facts. But citing her for that error here would be like citing an NFL player for trespassing after he breaks into his ex’s place and beats her up.)

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @whorefinder

    Yes. Appalling error. Appellate courts are courts of review not legislatures.

  19. @Marty
    Well, this has to be your strangest post ever, Steve. You start quotation of Sotomayor's dissent right after she acknowledges that the respondent is white? In other words, the cops make an unlawful, no-individualized-suspicion Terry stop on a white guy, indicating maybe they don't single out darkskins, and she immediately goes into her "woe is us" routine? Isn't that psychopathy?

    Replies: @AndrewR, @bomag

    It’s standard-issue tribalism. No universal principles. Just who vs whom.

    Of course to be a Progressive in good standing these days, one may not complain about any double standards that favor any Victim Group.

  20. @AndrewR
    Is Coates really one of the brightest black minds of the Democrat coalition?

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Is Coates really one of the brightest black minds of the Democrat coalition?”

    Yes he is. Why is that hard to believe? The bar is not set very high for what qualifies as a bright Black mind of the Democratic coalition.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Jefferson

    It's not but there are many millions of black Democrats. My liberal side wants to believe that at least a few of them are brighter than I. Coates shows no such signs.

    Replies: @Nico

  21. It was very common back in the ’80 and ’90 (I don’t know about now) for adult black crack dealers to have children run (literally) product for them. Children wouldn’t be punished much for this. I am not surprised that Coates would have seen or heard about innocent black kids at play being harassed during that time when police swept the neighborhood on drug stings.

    But who called 911 on the dealers to begin with?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @jJay

    "But who called 911 on the dealers to begin with?"

    Donald Trump and other evil White Christian Republicans.

    , @V Vega
    @jJay


    But who called 911 on the dealers to begin with?
     
    If they're Section 8'ers, then it will often be the white home owners who live across the street from the Section 8 apartment house.

    At first.

    The calls will tend to drop off after the Section 8 negroes verbally threaten to kill the white people, who they will always assume called the police on them. The negros will follow up on it with direct physical confrontations. They will also vandalize the suspected white persons car during the night, and/or deface the white persons property.

    After the white folks sell their house, and move, it's likely the house will turn into a rental, and a minority will move in, if not more section 8'ers. If the new minorities happen to be A Latino family, it could be the beginning of the end for negro gang members, provided more Hispanics move into the area. Latinos will violently confront any blacks making trouble, and the usually win in the end. Latinos have superior social networks. Negros often do not.

    Sans Latinos stepping in, and no white people around, the police will then have to rely on undercover operations, or exploiting an ex-gang member whose life has been threatened by his former gang members for trying to leave.

    That's kind of how the script plays out in California.

  22. @SPMoore8
    @Kylie

    Well, back when she was running for SCOTUS, Sotomayor talked up Nancy Drew and Perry Mason as her inspirations. So I guess if that's your intellectual base, Teh Genius Coates will seem Kantian in comparison.

    I have to agree with another poster, too, that bringing up this vague list of titles to deliver similarly vague pronunciamentos about the plight black youths, in a dissent that concerns a white guy, bespeaks a political/cultural agenda that is really inappropriate for a SCOTUS justice.

    As per the case in question, the issue was whether an illegal search that revealed a search warrant on the suspect as well as meth was legal. Who cares. I'm tired of criminals getting off on technicalities. Save the SCOTUS for serious cases.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Mr. Anon

    Now that you mention it, I do recall Sotomayor citing Nancy Drew and Perry Mason as her inspirations. I wonder if she knows they’re fictional characters?

    I’m not just being snarky. I read some of her writings and literally could not understand what she was trying to convey. By contrast, I could understand FLOTUS’ S written grievances. They were obviously the product of an unintelligent mind. But they were intelligible.

  23. Ed says:

    Justices Sotomayor & Thomas are both beneficiaries of affirmative action at Yale Law. A school that we now know gave extreme preferences to black & presumably Puerto Rican students in the 60s & 70s.

    I guess Thomas is preferable as he had the good sense to shut up and follow Scalia’s lead. What an embarrassment & a window into our horrible future ahead.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @Ed

    Thomas was undoubtedly a product of affirmative action, but I have to hand it to the guy, he turned out to be a brilliant constitutional originalist.

    He (barely) slipped through the cracks, though. After that Anita Hill BS he was confirmed by a 52-48 vote. Ted Kennedy, who killed a girl while drunk, voted against him as "unfit."

    Affirmative action picks are supposed to do the bidding of their white liberal masters. That's why the Dems went after Thomas so hard -- they knew he wouldn't play the game on their terms, and they turned out to be right.

    Thomas is a white man in black skin. I wish we had a few more like him.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    , @AnotherDad
    @Ed


    I guess Thomas is preferable as he had the good sense to shut up and follow Scalia’s lead.
     
    My understanding--i'm a tech guy not a lawyer type--is Thomas in fact did *not* just follow Scalia's lead. That's a lefty "Uncle Clarence" stereotype. I don't believe he voted with Scalia any more than typical for a conservative justice. He was no Scalia's mini-me.

    My--non-lawyer, but interested layman--impression:
    -- Scalia was a "plain language, plain meaning" sort of guy, with traditionalist conservative instincts
    -- Thomas is more of a libertarian guy

    Thomas was the beneficiary of a very sleazy "Uncle Tom" campaign by the left. But his opinions that i read or heard described, my thought was "this guy is on my side; he wants to protect my rights as an American". I think he's a high quality justice.

    Replies: @Bill

  24. @jJay
    It was very common back in the '80 and '90 (I don't know about now) for adult black crack dealers to have children run (literally) product for them. Children wouldn't be punished much for this. I am not surprised that Coates would have seen or heard about innocent black kids at play being harassed during that time when police swept the neighborhood on drug stings.

    But who called 911 on the dealers to begin with?

    Replies: @Jefferson, @V Vega

    “But who called 911 on the dealers to begin with?”

    Donald Trump and other evil White Christian Republicans.

  25. This section of the dissent is absurdly unnecessary and it looks like Sotomayor, or more likely her law clerk, had written it out for some other reason and simply could not wait to put it in an opinion, despite the fact that there is no connection between the actual case and these words. I note that the other dissenters did not join in this section; Kagan wrote her own dissent which is far more nuanced, and Ginsburg excluded herself from this section of Sotomayor’s opinion. Even those two liberals were probably embarrassed by this outburst. I also note the petulant “I dissent” and not the normal “I respectfully dissent”. Sotomayor looks very foolish.

    Having said that, I agree with the dissent on policy grounds (I do not know the jurisprudence). I don’t think the police should be able to stop someone without cause and justify it by the presence of a warrant they knew nothing about when they made the stop.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @cwhatfuture

    I agree with you that cops shouldn't be able to stop someone without cause, but sometimes even cops make mistakes, and in this case, by putting it before the court the plaintiff we have an either/or, either we void the arrest on the warrant, or we enshrine the principle of casual searches. I say, bust him, and get a better team of lawyers and a more sympathetic plaintiff next time.

    Replies: @guest

    , @Olorin
    @cwhatfuture


    This section of the dissent is absurdly unnecessary and it looks like Sotomayor, or more likely her law clerk, had written it out for some other reason and simply could not wait to put it in an opinion, despite the fact that there is no connection between the actual case and these words.
     
    And I'd guess that the law clerk who wrote this opinion is, say, an AA BLM Yalie with an IQ of 102 thrilled to be clerking for the Latina as a rocket sled to stratospheric power.
    , @Psmith
    @cwhatfuture

    Strongly agree. "hur hur genius award" is entertaining and all, but this is a pretty damn bad decision.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @cwhatfuture

    Cwhat, Perfect catch, a law clerk ( maybe Sotomayor should still be clerking), awaiting a chance to slip this drivel into a dissent, and Sotomayor, the wise Latina, says sure why not. The other two liberal women, cringe and back away.

  26. Ed says:
    @27 year old
    @Jefferson

    I have to suspect that these polls are fraudulent, and that certain people are trying to meme the reality they want into existence. Jazzhands McFeels and Marcus Halberstram (hosts of weekly Fash The Nation) have described that the current polls are using D +10 and above samples. Meaning they are oversampling Democrats. Which, you see goy, makes sense, based on the primary turnout R vs D.

    Replies: @Ed, @Jacobsson, @415 reasons

    Naw they’re legit. He’s being massacred in the media. For example Morning Joe has started off his show in the last two weeks on some variation of an anti-Trump crusade. These assaults on Trump in the media hurt him with women, in particular white women, who want to be viewed on being on the good side.

    The polls show Trump doing well with white men but not well with white women. Thus he’s behind. Ironically he’s matching Romney with non-whites. If Trump loses it’ll be because white women put their own narcissism over their children’s futures. Well the ones that have kids’ atleast.

    • Agree: snorlax
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Ed

    Back in the beginning of the R primary, I wrote on iSteve that the media could defeat Trump by reporting about him instead of reporting his words and reporting that he was failing instead of that he was a surprise success. Looks like they figured it out.

    Hillary is getting a bump now with her "first woman candidate" news, and the negative attacks haven't started yet. So, it's not too late, but it is not looking good right now. Trump mainstreamed himself in the wrong way. He needed to show more depth of knowledge and thought and to lay off personal attacks. Instead, he's changed his haircut and asked the GOP for money.

    The current popularity slump started with his comments on Curiel. That was stupid. Trump U was a big problem because Trump was actually scamming people out of their savings. Distraction was a good idea but not the way he did it.

    Replies: @Difference maker, @WJ

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Ed

    Almost EVERY white woman of our acquaintance who has children, supports Trump or leans Trump. Old and young, in many different States around the country, family and friends.

    By contrast, women of our acquaintance who never had children are either steady Dems virulently opposed to Trump and voting for Shrillary (my two childless lawyer friends in NJ and NYC) or non-Dems who are nonetheless going to vote third-party because Trump is so "racist" and "meanspirited" (my sister, my wife's sister, and others).

    My reaction, at least the part that can be printed, to "women" like this is: If you don't give a damn about perpetuating your own family, fine, but we care about ours. And we care about our NATION, too, which has nothing to do with the government. At least stop supporting people who are intentionally making it impossible to raise our children in a civilized, safe, productive, high-trust, prosperous, intelligent, English-speaking culture.

    Nah, what I mean is: look, you weird selfish barren bitches, stop f---- up the country for normal people who have children and are actually working to raise the next generation right.

    Replies: @AP

    , @AnotherDad
    @Ed


    If Trump loses it’ll be because white women put their own narcissism over their children’s futures. Well the ones that have kids’ at least.
     
    Kudos Ed! You nailed it. I blather about for paragraphs and you nailed the heart of it in one sentence.

    Our ancestors made the mistake of giving women the vote. Something perhaps no republic can survive. Certainly something that no republic with the media controlled by folks hostile to the nation is likely to survive.

    If Trump is going to win, he has to cut through the noise and make this squarely about *the future*:

    "Do you want your children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren to grow up in and live as citizen owners of America--a republic, a nation? .... or merely exist as subjects of an imperial super-state that's sort of the north American version of Brazil?

    Replies: @JSM

  27. @Jean Cocteausten
    This business about "the talk" is unintentionally revealing of the parenting attitudes of some minorities. My parents never explicitly told me to be deferential to the cops, not because of white privilege, but because it was literally unthinkable that I would act otherwise. If you have to sit your 16-year-old down and say, "Look, son, if the cops approach you, don't run, yell, ball up your fists..." you've probably already bungled things beyond saving. I imagine there are many black families who would agree with this and who are put off by this idea that black kids have to have this spelled out to them.

    Replies: @dr kill, @Jeremiahjohnbalaya, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff77450

    It’s exactly because cops expect insolence and provocation at every citizen encounter that this talk is necessary with your kids.

  28. @SPMoore8
    These Sotomayor footnotes are so vague they are a joke. Why doesn't she just say whatever she wants, and then footnote reference the 11th Edition of the Encyclopedia Brittanica, with copious Ibid.s thereafter? Alternatively, she could cite the Nancy Drew books or the complete Perry Mason series, now, on DVD.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Clyde, @syonredux, @Jim Don Bob

    This grandstanding idiot Sotomayor with her big dissent today. No black or minority is involved this case. Just a white man who was stopped by the police and found to have meth or other drugs in his automobile. She piggishly seized this as her opportunity to show solidarity with BLM, by going off on her own racial tangent. I hear the libs loved it immediately, commented immediately and this is whom she is playing to.

    Ironic given the firestorm that hit Trump when he complained about a biased Hispanic judge. Sotamayor is a fine example of one.

  29. Justice Ginsberg co-signed all of Soto’s dissent except the last section about black bodies and TNC.

    The point seems to be if you are detained walking out of a drug dealer’s house, have an outstanding warrant for your arrest for a “minor traffic offense” and are found to have a pocket full of meth, the search should be tossed out.

    Interestingly, this is not just the liberals on the Supreme Court’s view, but also the Utah Supreme Court’s majority.

    It is nice to see Judge Breyer jointing the conservatives in the case.

    The liberals on the court make a basic math error. They say if California has 2.5 million warrants that is 9% of its adult population, so the fact of a warrant alone should not be enough to justify a search if there were no grounds of the initial stop.

    The problem is that of that 2.5 million, a lot will be for residents of other states, or duplicates, or the deceased.

  30. Most Americans would rather surrender to Islam than fight it. Particularly women. Thus, the polls.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Whiskey

    "Most Americans would rather surrender to Islam than fight it. Particularly women. Thus, the polls."

    The West appeasing Islam reminds me of this song.
    https://youtu.be/AQiUJlRa0N8

    Bow down Western civilization when Islam comes to your town, bow down to a religion that is greater than you.

  31. @cwhatfuture
    This section of the dissent is absurdly unnecessary and it looks like Sotomayor, or more likely her law clerk, had written it out for some other reason and simply could not wait to put it in an opinion, despite the fact that there is no connection between the actual case and these words. I note that the other dissenters did not join in this section; Kagan wrote her own dissent which is far more nuanced, and Ginsburg excluded herself from this section of Sotomayor's opinion. Even those two liberals were probably embarrassed by this outburst. I also note the petulant "I dissent" and not the normal "I respectfully dissent". Sotomayor looks very foolish.

    Having said that, I agree with the dissent on policy grounds (I do not know the jurisprudence). I don't think the police should be able to stop someone without cause and justify it by the presence of a warrant they knew nothing about when they made the stop.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Olorin, @Psmith, @Buffalo Joe

    I agree with you that cops shouldn’t be able to stop someone without cause, but sometimes even cops make mistakes, and in this case, by putting it before the court the plaintiff we have an either/or, either we void the arrest on the warrant, or we enshrine the principle of casual searches. I say, bust him, and get a better team of lawyers and a more sympathetic plaintiff next time.

    • Replies: @guest
    @SPMoore8

    Can't we both uphold the arrest/seizure and reprimand the cops for stopping and searching without cause? Win-win.

  32. Leftist conservative [AKA "corporate slave wandering down fluorescent hallway"] says: • Website

    states constitutional convention…the only hope we have left…

  33. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t have a strong opinion on this particular case, but it provides an interesting parallel to the increasingly loud and well-funded efforts to recall the judge of the Brock Turner case. Critics of the recall effort are careful to condemn the judge for insufficiently punishing Turner, but argue that a recall will indirectly lead to harsher sentences for minority youth. You could also argue that Turner’s punishment is plenty severe, and that fallout from a successful recall would disproportionately affect minority youth, but I assume that this position would be career suicide for any journalist or Californian politician/prison reform activist.

  34. @Ed
    Justices Sotomayor & Thomas are both beneficiaries of affirmative action at Yale Law. A school that we now know gave extreme preferences to black & presumably Puerto Rican students in the 60s & 70s.

    I guess Thomas is preferable as he had the good sense to shut up and follow Scalia's lead. What an embarrassment & a window into our horrible future ahead.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @AnotherDad

    Thomas was undoubtedly a product of affirmative action, but I have to hand it to the guy, he turned out to be a brilliant constitutional originalist.

    He (barely) slipped through the cracks, though. After that Anita Hill BS he was confirmed by a 52-48 vote. Ted Kennedy, who killed a girl while drunk, voted against him as “unfit.”

    Affirmative action picks are supposed to do the bidding of their white liberal masters. That’s why the Dems went after Thomas so hard — they knew he wouldn’t play the game on their terms, and they turned out to be right.

    Thomas is a white man in black skin. I wish we had a few more like him.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Dr. X

    Clarence Thomas appears to be simply a DECENT man in black skin. That is good enough for me.

  35. Lot says:

    The husband of one of my GF’s friends has an outstanding warrant from an east coast state from the early 2000’s.

    Every few years this results in him being detained by the police if they have any reason at all to run a warrant check, i.e. a speeding ticket or crossing the border after a visit to mexico. He just tells them “You guys have asked them before many times if they want me extradited and they always say no, they don’t want to pay for it.” Then they let him go.

    On one hand, it is kind of unfair to him. He lacks the right you and I have to not be searched by the police without probable cause. If he looks even a little suspicious, but not to a probable cause level, they can still do a full search as part of arresting him on the out-of-state warrant. And of course it is mostly highly criminal demographics who are likely to suffer from having warrants in cases that are too old or too small to pursue. So, in essence, maybe a third of black 30 year olds lack the protection of the 4th amendment. In the wrong neighborhood? Investigatory stop>warrant check>search.

    So I can see how black supremacists and egalitarians could have a problem with what happened in Utah. My view is, decent people don’t let old outstanding warrants against them just sit around unaddressed. Most of these outstanding warrants represent crimes that went unpunished, even if mostly “minor” crimes. If one such warrant results in you not being able to suppress a police search outside of a drug den that find meth in your pocket, boo frickin’ hoo.

  36. @Ed
    @27 year old

    Naw they're legit. He's being massacred in the media. For example Morning Joe has started off his show in the last two weeks on some variation of an anti-Trump crusade. These assaults on Trump in the media hurt him with women, in particular white women, who want to be viewed on being on the good side.

    The polls show Trump doing well with white men but not well with white women. Thus he's behind. Ironically he's matching Romney with non-whites. If Trump loses it'll be because white women put their own narcissism over their children's futures. Well the ones that have kids' atleast.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @RadicalCenter, @AnotherDad

    Back in the beginning of the R primary, I wrote on iSteve that the media could defeat Trump by reporting about him instead of reporting his words and reporting that he was failing instead of that he was a surprise success. Looks like they figured it out.

    Hillary is getting a bump now with her “first woman candidate” news, and the negative attacks haven’t started yet. So, it’s not too late, but it is not looking good right now. Trump mainstreamed himself in the wrong way. He needed to show more depth of knowledge and thought and to lay off personal attacks. Instead, he’s changed his haircut and asked the GOP for money.

    The current popularity slump started with his comments on Curiel. That was stupid. Trump U was a big problem because Trump was actually scamming people out of their savings. Distraction was a good idea but not the way he did it.

    • Agree: snorlax
    • Replies: @Difference maker
    @Chrisnonymous

    "reporting about him instead of reporting his words and reporting that he was failing instead of that he was a surprise success. "

    Already thought of that but wasnt so crass as to put it in public view

    , @WJ
    @Chrisnonymous

    Regarding Trump U, Trump forgot what he already knew - blow it off, ignore because nobody cares. Nobody cared when he insulted "war hero" McCain, nobody cared when he called (some) Mexicans racist, nobody really cared when he called the Mexican judge out for what he is. Nobody cares, they will evaluate based on other information or feeling. Keep being Trump and never, ever apologize.

    When people tell me he is finished because of this dirt I just remind them of HRC and security lapses that would have an ordinary person imprisoned or her speeches for 250 g each or her ugly ,ugly history in the 1990s. Nobody cares. She is the teflon candidate. Trump is like that also.

    Replies: @Connecticut Famer

  37. @SPMoore8
    These Sotomayor footnotes are so vague they are a joke. Why doesn't she just say whatever she wants, and then footnote reference the 11th Edition of the Encyclopedia Brittanica, with copious Ibid.s thereafter? Alternatively, she could cite the Nancy Drew books or the complete Perry Mason series, now, on DVD.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Clyde, @syonredux, @Jim Don Bob

    RE: Sotomayor’s struggles with English,

    Judge Sonia Sotomayor said in a 1996 speech at Princeton University’s Third World Center (now called the Carl A. Fields Center) that when she arrived at Princeton in 1972 as her high school’s valedictorian, “I found out that my Latina background had created difficulties in my writing that I needed to overcome. For example, in Spanish we do not have adjectives. A noun is described with a preposition…. My writing was stilted and overly complicated, my grammar and vocabulary skills weak.”

    You know, I don’t even speak Spanish, but….

    libro rojo

    red book

    pluma roja

    red pen

    libros rojos

    red books

    plumas rojas

    red pens

    Maybe Sonia is semi-literate in two languages?

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @syonredux

    The only explanation I can come up with is that she is confused about the meaning of "adjective" and "preposition", but, yeah, it does appear that she is confused. But at least she's on the Supreme Court so she can ventilate about police officers touching you in your private parts and feeling your testicles when they search you.

    , @Josh
    @syonredux

    No way. That can't be real.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @artichoke
    @syonredux

    She has the wisdom of her experiences. Those experiences include illiteracy and, arguably, stupidity. We need that represented on the Court!

    Replies: @ben tillman

    , @Hibernian
    @syonredux

    I think in Spanish a prepositional phrase may be used for the possessive where that's not the case in English, i.e. "El libro de Maria" vs. "Mary's book." I vaguely recall prepositional phrases standing in for adjectives in other instances, but I don't remember the particulars. That being said, her way of describing what I just mentioned, if in fact that's what she's describing, is more than a little disappointing for an Ivy League educated Associate Justice of SCOTUS. Functional illiteracy in 2 languages is only a slight exaggeration.

    Replies: @syonredux

  38. My own, rather elaborate (belated) take on the NYT take:

    Supreme Court Says Police May Use Evidence Found After Illegal Stops

    Not mentioned in the scary headline, the ruling only applies to detainees with outstanding warrants.

    Sotomayor, Ginsburg, Kagan, dissenting. Hark!— A mariachi band playing in a cave, echo-echo-echoing. And we are supposed to believe …. NO HAY BANDA. There is no band playing. It is an illusion.

    I bolded some of the following for emphasis:

    In a dissent that cited W. E. B. Du Bois, James Baldwin and Ta-Nehisi Coates, Justice Sotomayor said the court had vastly expanded police power.

    “This case tells everyone, white and black, guilty and innocent, that an officer can verify your legal status at any time,” she wrote. “It says that your body is subject to invasion while courts excuse the violation of your rights.

    Black babies’ bodies. An actual sitting Supreme Court Justice citing full-on melodramatic SJW “critical race theory.” Caracas, here we come.

    Fun stat FTA:

    And according to the Justice Department, about 16,000 of the 21,000 residents of Ferguson, Mo., are subject to arrest warrants.

    Let that sink in. 16 out of 21 residents (that 21 base includes children???). Almost every adult is officially a law breaker to some degree? Yeah, I know, I know:

    “Maaaan, them warrants is boo-shihh. Bet they dindu nuffin.”

    Wise Latina drops real knowledge:

    “For generations,” she wrote, “black and brown parents have given their children ‘the talk’ — instructing them never to run down the street; always keep your hands where they can be seen; do not even think of talking back to a stranger — all out of fear of how an officer with a gun will react to them.”

    Seems all that imaginary Huxtable advice ain’t getting through. Like: Don’t do stuff that incurs warrants, kids.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Seems all that imaginary Huxtable advice ain’t getting through. Like: Don’t do stuff that incurs warrants, kids.
     
    Yeah -- Dr. Huxtable says don't commit serial rape over four decades...
  39. @JohnnyD
    Michelle Alexander's book, "The New Jim Crow," is just as worthless as Coates' work (Alexander didn't even bother to cite most of her supposed findings). But with Coates, it's even more apparent that you're dealing with nonsense.

    Replies: @John Derbyshire

    There’s a good takedown here.

    • Replies: @JohnnyD
    @John Derbyshire

    Thanks Derb!

  40. @John Derbyshire
    @JohnnyD

    There's a good takedown here.

    Replies: @JohnnyD

    Thanks Derb!

  41. @Whiskey
    Most Americans would rather surrender to Islam than fight it. Particularly women. Thus, the polls.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Most Americans would rather surrender to Islam than fight it. Particularly women. Thus, the polls.”

    The West appeasing Islam reminds me of this song.

    Bow down Western civilization when Islam comes to your town, bow down to a religion that is greater than you.

  42. @syonredux
    @SPMoore8

    RE: Sotomayor's struggles with English,


    Judge Sonia Sotomayor said in a 1996 speech at Princeton University’s Third World Center (now called the Carl A. Fields Center) that when she arrived at Princeton in 1972 as her high school’s valedictorian, “I found out that my Latina background had created difficulties in my writing that I needed to overcome. For example, in Spanish we do not have adjectives. A noun is described with a preposition…. My writing was stilted and overly complicated, my grammar and vocabulary skills weak.”
     
    You know, I don't even speak Spanish, but....

    libro rojo

    red book

    pluma roja

    red pen

    libros rojos

    red books

    plumas rojas

    red pens

    Maybe Sonia is semi-literate in two languages?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Josh, @artichoke, @Hibernian

    The only explanation I can come up with is that she is confused about the meaning of “adjective” and “preposition”, but, yeah, it does appear that she is confused. But at least she’s on the Supreme Court so she can ventilate about police officers touching you in your private parts and feeling your testicles when they search you.

  43. @Jefferson
    @AndrewR

    "Is Coates really one of the brightest black minds of the Democrat coalition?"

    Yes he is. Why is that hard to believe? The bar is not set very high for what qualifies as a bright Black mind of the Democratic coalition.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    It’s not but there are many millions of black Democrats. My liberal side wants to believe that at least a few of them are brighter than I. Coates shows no such signs.

    • Replies: @Nico
    @AndrewR


    It’s not but there are many millions of black Democrats. My liberal side wants to believe that at least a few of them are brighter than I.
     
    See Ann Coulter's book title, "If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans." A caricature and an exaggeration, obviously, but if you spend any time around most black Democrats I guarantee you'll be shutting that "liberal side" up pretty fast.

    Replies: @Spotted Toad

  44. @27 year old
    @Jefferson

    I have to suspect that these polls are fraudulent, and that certain people are trying to meme the reality they want into existence. Jazzhands McFeels and Marcus Halberstram (hosts of weekly Fash The Nation) have described that the current polls are using D +10 and above samples. Meaning they are oversampling Democrats. Which, you see goy, makes sense, based on the primary turnout R vs D.

    Replies: @Ed, @Jacobsson, @415 reasons

    True. But until the election happens, we don’t know what the right proportion is, do we?

    I’m no expert but I have vague memories of this sampling talk in 2012.

    +10 is likely wrong but +5 might be right and thats a tall task for any candidate.

  45. @SPMoore8
    @cwhatfuture

    I agree with you that cops shouldn't be able to stop someone without cause, but sometimes even cops make mistakes, and in this case, by putting it before the court the plaintiff we have an either/or, either we void the arrest on the warrant, or we enshrine the principle of casual searches. I say, bust him, and get a better team of lawyers and a more sympathetic plaintiff next time.

    Replies: @guest

    Can’t we both uphold the arrest/seizure and reprimand the cops for stopping and searching without cause? Win-win.

    • Agree: SPMoore8
  46. Does anybody here on The Unz live in Phoenix or one of it’s suburbs? There has been quite a heatwave over there that has resulted in some deaths. It has gotten as hot as 120F.

    Some outsiders will say at least it’s a dry heat, but dry heat is only comfortable or tolerable up to a certain point. 120F dry heat is way past the comfortable or tolerable point.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Jefferson

    Phoenix gets to 115 every summer, so 120 isn't too big a deal.


    120F dry heat is way past the comfortable or tolerable point.
     
    It's not bad in the shade or in the pool.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  47. @Jefferson
    Hildabeast's popularity has actually gone up in the polls after the Orlando terrorist attack.

    It's the fault of Donald Trump and White Christian Republicans that this terrorist attack occurred really does resonate with the majority of American voters.

    Islamic Terrorist attacks on U.S soil really does politically benefit the Left more than the Right. The more terrorist attacks occur, the more American voters flock to Hildabeast.

    Replies: @27 year old, @Anonymous, @Federalist, @boogerbently, @EriK, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Glaivester, @rod1963, @Peter Akuleyev, @JohnnyWalker123

    What makes you think that our (western European society) will respond any differently than the western Europeans of today ?
    Please excuse me for making you into violent, ignorant rapists by my white privilege. It’s all my fault, really.

  48. @whorefinder
    I have little doubt That Teh-Nisisisisisi will crow about this for years to come, and will probably one day host a "symposium" where it will consist of him onstage with J. Sotomayor in front of a sympathetic TED-esque audience, where he makes comments about "black bodies" being "invaded" by whitey, and she grins like an idiot and nods her head and gives judicial approval.

    How far lefty jurisprudence has fallen----now it doesn't even rely 0n logic, just one guy's feeling about something. She's literally citing articles that have no statistical backup to them, just the rantings of a token-black, blame-whitey writer who apparently can read the minds of others.

    At least when Louis Brandeis gave the famous "Brandeis brief", it was chock full of social statistics that could be, ya know, falsified, and were, ya know, pretty persuasive as an argument. But I guess arguments about legislative restrictions on working hours are a bit easier to prove with hard facts and figures than that the evil (white) police are shooting up thousands of "innocent" black men.

    (She's also blatantly violating more advanced jurisprudence rules ---by citing "legislative" facts in her opinion, as opposed to being concerned solely with "judicial" facts. But citing her for that error here would be like citing an NFL player for trespassing after he breaks into his ex's place and beats her up.)

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    Yes. Appalling error. Appellate courts are courts of review not legislatures.

  49. @SPMoore8
    These Sotomayor footnotes are so vague they are a joke. Why doesn't she just say whatever she wants, and then footnote reference the 11th Edition of the Encyclopedia Brittanica, with copious Ibid.s thereafter? Alternatively, she could cite the Nancy Drew books or the complete Perry Mason series, now, on DVD.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Clyde, @syonredux, @Jim Don Bob

    The only two reasons I voted for McCain (Shithead – AZ) are named Kagan and Sotomayer. I know some of you all are not on board with the Donald, but a Hillary win would mean three more of these AA morons on the Supremes.

    • Agree: Kylie, TWS
    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @Jim Don Bob

    The seat would still have been safely Republican if the old crazy bastard were primaried out.

  50. @Jefferson
    Hildabeast's popularity has actually gone up in the polls after the Orlando terrorist attack.

    It's the fault of Donald Trump and White Christian Republicans that this terrorist attack occurred really does resonate with the majority of American voters.

    Islamic Terrorist attacks on U.S soil really does politically benefit the Left more than the Right. The more terrorist attacks occur, the more American voters flock to Hildabeast.

    Replies: @27 year old, @Anonymous, @Federalist, @boogerbently, @EriK, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Glaivester, @rod1963, @Peter Akuleyev, @JohnnyWalker123

    I haven’t seen much of HRC lately, which is generally when she polls best.

    • Replies: @rod1963
    @EriK

    I suspect she's quite ill and unstable if most reports are to be believed. The fact she hasn't had a press conference in over six months shows she can't deal with people in a free form format which is indicative of some sort of psychological issue.

  51. Why didn’t she just cite Chris Rock on “the talk”?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Can anyone here explain Mr. Rock's success? This is overlong, witless vulgarity.

  52. @Jean Cocteausten
    This business about "the talk" is unintentionally revealing of the parenting attitudes of some minorities. My parents never explicitly told me to be deferential to the cops, not because of white privilege, but because it was literally unthinkable that I would act otherwise. If you have to sit your 16-year-old down and say, "Look, son, if the cops approach you, don't run, yell, ball up your fists..." you've probably already bungled things beyond saving. I imagine there are many black families who would agree with this and who are put off by this idea that black kids have to have this spelled out to them.

    Replies: @dr kill, @Jeremiahjohnbalaya, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff77450

    Heck, my mom was once furious at me for not yessering a cop. If my dad had been present, I probably would have ended up in the next room ,with a brand new, body-sized hole in the wall.

    • Replies: @OFWHAP
    @Jeremiahjohnbalaya

    It's amazing how much you can defuse a tense situation with the police with a simple yes sir/no sir or a yes ma'am/no ma'am. Of course it is hard for those with low-impulse control to use this kind of behavior.

  53. You think Coates is more Glenn Beck than Steve Pinker (or James Baldwin, as you imply in your linked essay), but do you actually disagree with Sotomayor here? As her other citations indicate, Coates is hardly advancing a novel argument on the subject.

  54. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The white western world is a result of the white western mind.

    Soto is an alien and her mind will ever be so.

    The world that is brought to fruition by the thinking of Soto & Coates will not be white or western. It will be a mix of Puerto Rico and Jamaica with all of that dysfunction and great absence of rule of law.

    Cities like Miami city proper (some exclusions) and Los Angeles city proper (west side excluded) are already departed from western civ. These are part of the mestizo second wave following the African first wave which took so many American cities away from our civilization.

    • Replies: @Thea
    @Anonymous

    We've been ceding territory left and right. Not just land but institutions like schools.

    This was baked into the cake of early WASP New England progressives like the Oneida experiment.

    , @ben tillman
    @Anonymous


    The white western world is a result of the white western mind.

    Soto is an alien and her mind will ever be so.
     
    How is she an alien, or not white, or whatever you're getting at?
  55. Really more fitting for the recent crime ….but my brother brutasale you should check out michael Harveys latest called brighton. It nails the crazy boston neighborhood of my youth.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @L7's

    Hey, I LIVED in Brighton while I was at BU (1979-1983) on Washington Street a block from Comm Ave. The Fidelis Way Projects were basically 2 blocks away, and there were times I was the only white person at the laundromat on the corner. Large Irish community, early yuppies, Jews from over the Brookline border and literally thousands of students made for an interesting stew. Given all the coeds, it was always the sexual assault capital of Massachusetts.

    But law enforcement was different then. I remember back in '82 coming home from my club job on the last B Line train, just me and the driver. A BPD cruiser came flying up the inside lane of Comm Ave. as we were climbing the hill. We heard the brakes squeal and the driver turned off the interior lights and stopped. A hood rat was trying to break into the store on the corner, and he jumped down and reached into his pocket as the cop opened the passenger door. The cop driving hit the gas and the other knocked the kid flying with the passenger door! They just picked up the kid, all busted up, cuffed him (with the knee in his back, of course) and threw him in the back of the cruiser. No muss, no fuss, no repercussions.

    The flip side was that the weekly Saturday night brawls outside McMahon's involving groups of Irish knuckleheads all lubed up and ready for action rarely had the cops stirring out of the BPD Brighton substation, which was all of 100 feet away!

    As was usually the case in Boston, the large Irish community in Brighton was responsible for helping limit the depredations of the project dwellers.

    I judge all Allston-Brighton residents' ages by asking if they're old enough to remember the 2 tacos and a beer for $2 at the old El Phoenix Room!

    I'll definitely be checking out Harvey's book.

  56. @Jefferson
    Hildabeast's popularity has actually gone up in the polls after the Orlando terrorist attack.

    It's the fault of Donald Trump and White Christian Republicans that this terrorist attack occurred really does resonate with the majority of American voters.

    Islamic Terrorist attacks on U.S soil really does politically benefit the Left more than the Right. The more terrorist attacks occur, the more American voters flock to Hildabeast.

    Replies: @27 year old, @Anonymous, @Federalist, @boogerbently, @EriK, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Glaivester, @rod1963, @Peter Akuleyev, @JohnnyWalker123

    The more terrorist attacks occur, the more American voters flock to Hildabeast.

    Yes, because we know that the polls are never used to push a point of view; we know that the media is totally objective and fair and wants the best for everyone!

    Cease and desist, you are re-transmitting their propaganda.

  57. I’ve lived in black neighborhoods in Brooklyn and Jersey City.

    What young black men actually do is deliberately taunt the police and threaten them.

    Somebody must be forgetting to give them “the Talk.”

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Shouting Thomas

    "I’ve lived in black neighborhoods in Brooklyn and Jersey City."

    Why do you seek out Black neighborhoods to live in? You don't have a well paying job?

    , @Bill
    @Shouting Thomas

    Exactly. "The talk" narrative is so utterly delusional, so completely disconnected from reality, that it is hard to believe anyone buys it. But you have to remind yourself that the target audience is the significant minority (or is it a majority now) of white people who have no significant experience with real black people.

  58. @Jefferson
    Hildabeast's popularity has actually gone up in the polls after the Orlando terrorist attack.

    It's the fault of Donald Trump and White Christian Republicans that this terrorist attack occurred really does resonate with the majority of American voters.

    Islamic Terrorist attacks on U.S soil really does politically benefit the Left more than the Right. The more terrorist attacks occur, the more American voters flock to Hildabeast.

    Replies: @27 year old, @Anonymous, @Federalist, @boogerbently, @EriK, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Glaivester, @rod1963, @Peter Akuleyev, @JohnnyWalker123

    I’d be cautious about this – it’s true that Trump is being pilloried in the media, and that is having an effect, but it seems to me that if he keeps onto the “it’s the Muslims, stupid!” and the “it’s the immigration, stupid!” message, eventually the message will get through and the media’s attacks will have diminishing returns.

    Also, note that the poll with the largest sample size only has Hillary up by 2 points – it also appears, judging by the numbers, to be the only poll that forces you to choose and not say “I don’t know.”

    Trump may do better with (currently) undecideds than we think.

    http://web.archive.org/web/20160619165331/http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

  59. The most deplorable one [AKA "#Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    Meanwhile, some of the diverse basketball players manage to do well for themselves:

    http://www.yaofamilywines.com/

    The Cabernet is quite good. Much better than the stuff you can get in China.

  60. “Wise Latina”. I love that label. Will she ever live it down?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @SnakeEyes

    Will she ever live it down?

    Live it down? "Wise Latina" will be the title of Sotomayor's biopic starring Penelope Cruz.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Buffalo Joe

    , @Former Darfur
    @SnakeEyes

    She's a mestiza/mulatta. Unless the mothers of Augustus Caesar were Mesoamericanas.
    None of the old Roman statuary shows the hideous features of Aztecs as far as i have ever heard.

  61. @SnakeEyes
    "Wise Latina". I love that label. Will she ever live it down?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Former Darfur

    Will she ever live it down?

    Live it down? “Wise Latina” will be the title of Sotomayor’s biopic starring Penelope Cruz.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Steve Sailer


    Will she ever live it down?

    Live it down? “Wise Latina” will be the title of Sotomayor’s biopic starring Penelope Cruz.
     
    Why not? After all, Jaqueline Fleming played Harriet Tubman in Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter.....


    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2053163008/nm0281693
    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, Nailed it, who can't see the startling resemblance between Soto and Cruz, unless you can resurrect Ernest Borgnine.

  62. @SPMoore8
    @Kylie

    Well, back when she was running for SCOTUS, Sotomayor talked up Nancy Drew and Perry Mason as her inspirations. So I guess if that's your intellectual base, Teh Genius Coates will seem Kantian in comparison.

    I have to agree with another poster, too, that bringing up this vague list of titles to deliver similarly vague pronunciamentos about the plight black youths, in a dissent that concerns a white guy, bespeaks a political/cultural agenda that is really inappropriate for a SCOTUS justice.

    As per the case in question, the issue was whether an illegal search that revealed a search warrant on the suspect as well as meth was legal. Who cares. I'm tired of criminals getting off on technicalities. Save the SCOTUS for serious cases.

    Replies: @Kylie, @Mr. Anon

    “Well, back when she was running for SCOTUS, Sotomayor talked up Nancy Drew and Perry Mason as her inspirations. So I guess if that’s your intellectual base, Teh Genius Coates will seem Kantian in comparison.”

    You sure about that? I think it likely that a popular TV courtroom drama from the 50s is more sophisticated than most anything written by Teh Genius.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @Mr. Anon

    I'm a huge fan of "Perry Mason"; grew up with it in a family with a lot of legal people around. Amazingly complex and talky compared to modern TV. There was a lot of sophisticated TV back in the day, it's worth checking out. However most people are allergic to B&W and more's the pity, because there's a huge backlog of good cinema from the old days, too.

    Replies: @syonredux, @iSteveFan

  63. @Steve Sailer
    @SnakeEyes

    Will she ever live it down?

    Live it down? "Wise Latina" will be the title of Sotomayor's biopic starring Penelope Cruz.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Buffalo Joe

    Will she ever live it down?

    Live it down? “Wise Latina” will be the title of Sotomayor’s biopic starring Penelope Cruz.

    Why not? After all, Jaqueline Fleming played Harriet Tubman in Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter…..

    http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2053163008/nm0281693

  64. @Shouting Thomas
    I've lived in black neighborhoods in Brooklyn and Jersey City.

    What young black men actually do is deliberately taunt the police and threaten them.

    Somebody must be forgetting to give them "the Talk."

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Bill

    “I’ve lived in black neighborhoods in Brooklyn and Jersey City.”

    Why do you seek out Black neighborhoods to live in? You don’t have a well paying job?

  65. @Jefferson
    Does anybody here on The Unz live in Phoenix or one of it's suburbs? There has been quite a heatwave over there that has resulted in some deaths. It has gotten as hot as 120F.

    Some outsiders will say at least it's a dry heat, but dry heat is only comfortable or tolerable up to a certain point. 120F dry heat is way past the comfortable or tolerable point.

    Replies: @Lot

    Phoenix gets to 115 every summer, so 120 isn’t too big a deal.

    120F dry heat is way past the comfortable or tolerable point.

    It’s not bad in the shade or in the pool.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Lot

    "Phoenix gets to 115 every summer, so 120 isn’t too big a deal."

    It's a big enough deal that it has caused a couple of deaths.
    http://kron4.com/2016/06/20/death-toll-from-heat-hits-5-in-arizona/

    Also a flight to Phoenix had to be diverted because it was too hot.
    http://m.chron.com/about/article/Phoenix-heat-sends-diverts-flight-back-to-Houston-8312249.php

    "It’s not bad in the shade or in the pool."

    You live in San Diego where it rarely gets desert level hot like Phoenix.

    Replies: @Big Bill, @Jack Hanson

  66. @cwhatfuture
    This section of the dissent is absurdly unnecessary and it looks like Sotomayor, or more likely her law clerk, had written it out for some other reason and simply could not wait to put it in an opinion, despite the fact that there is no connection between the actual case and these words. I note that the other dissenters did not join in this section; Kagan wrote her own dissent which is far more nuanced, and Ginsburg excluded herself from this section of Sotomayor's opinion. Even those two liberals were probably embarrassed by this outburst. I also note the petulant "I dissent" and not the normal "I respectfully dissent". Sotomayor looks very foolish.

    Having said that, I agree with the dissent on policy grounds (I do not know the jurisprudence). I don't think the police should be able to stop someone without cause and justify it by the presence of a warrant they knew nothing about when they made the stop.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Olorin, @Psmith, @Buffalo Joe

    This section of the dissent is absurdly unnecessary and it looks like Sotomayor, or more likely her law clerk, had written it out for some other reason and simply could not wait to put it in an opinion, despite the fact that there is no connection between the actual case and these words.

    And I’d guess that the law clerk who wrote this opinion is, say, an AA BLM Yalie with an IQ of 102 thrilled to be clerking for the Latina as a rocket sled to stratospheric power.

  67. @Lot
    @Jefferson

    Phoenix gets to 115 every summer, so 120 isn't too big a deal.


    120F dry heat is way past the comfortable or tolerable point.
     
    It's not bad in the shade or in the pool.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Phoenix gets to 115 every summer, so 120 isn’t too big a deal.”

    It’s a big enough deal that it has caused a couple of deaths.
    http://kron4.com/2016/06/20/death-toll-from-heat-hits-5-in-arizona/

    Also a flight to Phoenix had to be diverted because it was too hot.
    http://m.chron.com/about/article/Phoenix-heat-sends-diverts-flight-back-to-Houston-8312249.php

    “It’s not bad in the shade or in the pool.”

    You live in San Diego where it rarely gets desert level hot like Phoenix.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    @Jefferson

    Driving a motorcycle in Phoenix this time of year is like driving into a blast furnace or a giant blow dryer.

    I had to wait until after midnight to leave Phoenix on the interstate headed east ... and it was STILL in the mid 90s.

    Everyone parking outside put a towel on their steering wheel so their hands don't get burned when they get back inside and drive away.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    , @Jack Hanson
    @Jefferson

    As a Phoenician, at least two of those people died because they were too stupid to heed the words of "120 degree heat" and went for a hike or bike ride.

    For some reason people get absolutely obsessive regarding hiking some of the mountains around here everyday. You run into 60 year olds who brag about running Camelback Mountain everyday for four years and then die of heat stroke. One of the fatalities was a 28 year old female fitness instructor.

    Arizona already has a stupid motorist law, but they're beginning to talk about a stupid hiker law for the people who go out and get in trouble during a heat wave cause they want to hike 4 miles with a liter bottle of water.

    Replies: @MC, @Anonymous

  68. @Jefferson
    Hildabeast's popularity has actually gone up in the polls after the Orlando terrorist attack.

    It's the fault of Donald Trump and White Christian Republicans that this terrorist attack occurred really does resonate with the majority of American voters.

    Islamic Terrorist attacks on U.S soil really does politically benefit the Left more than the Right. The more terrorist attacks occur, the more American voters flock to Hildabeast.

    Replies: @27 year old, @Anonymous, @Federalist, @boogerbently, @EriK, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Glaivester, @rod1963, @Peter Akuleyev, @JohnnyWalker123

    This is the MSM we’re talking about, that is totally in the tank for Hillary and all these folks do is gaslight us. So be careful of the narrative they are trying to sell you on, it’s probably based on lies. Just like they sold us on Iraqi WMD’s and the Kuwati babies being bayoneted by Iraqi soldiers.

    In short they’re real scum bags and frauds.

    Don’t buy into their c**p.

  69. @EriK
    @Jefferson

    I haven't seen much of HRC lately, which is generally when she polls best.

    Replies: @rod1963

    I suspect she’s quite ill and unstable if most reports are to be believed. The fact she hasn’t had a press conference in over six months shows she can’t deal with people in a free form format which is indicative of some sort of psychological issue.

  70. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The original “Wise Latina” quote is a perversion of quote from former Minnesota State Supreme Court Justice Mary Jeanne Coyne, where she states “a wise old man and a wise old woman reach the same conclusion”, not that a wise Latina reaches a better conclusion. But Sotomayor seems to have trouble understanding things.

  71. @Jim Don Bob
    @SPMoore8

    The only two reasons I voted for McCain (Shithead - AZ) are named Kagan and Sotomayer. I know some of you all are not on board with the Donald, but a Hillary win would mean three more of these AA morons on the Supremes.

    Replies: @Former Darfur

    The seat would still have been safely Republican if the old crazy bastard were primaried out.

  72. @SnakeEyes
    "Wise Latina". I love that label. Will she ever live it down?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Former Darfur

    She’s a mestiza/mulatta. Unless the mothers of Augustus Caesar were Mesoamericanas.
    None of the old Roman statuary shows the hideous features of Aztecs as far as i have ever heard.

  73. Hildabeast is projected to win Utah. Why are so many Utah Mormons offended by Donald Trump’s comments on Muslims? Do Mormons see themselves as an oppressed religious minority and see Donald Trump as the big bad racist Protestant?

    • Replies: @Ed
    @Jefferson

    She's not going to win Utah. It might be closer than expected though.

    Replies: @dr kill

    , @e
    @Jefferson

    The Donald has been calling Mitt "a loser" for a long time. Capisce?

    , @Jack Hanson
    @Jefferson

    It also shows her ahead in Arizona. Ahead. In. Arizona.

    If there was a poll stating that the sun goes down at noon, some people here would be looking at their window at 12 going "But that's unpossible!" at all the daylight.

    Basically the polls have been proven to be unreliable throughout this thing, the media is a bunch of whores, but some of you have to get your masochist kicks declaring how we're all doomed and the polls don't lie.

    , @Hibernian
    @Jefferson

    Gary Johnson has established his headquarters in Salt Lake City. Hilary may be in for a surprise.

    The Donald had real trouble in Mormon areas during the primaries and caucuses.

    , @Percy Gryce
    @Jefferson

    I don't know if this has anything to do with those poll results, but there are some affinities between Islam and Mormonism: the credibility of the entire enterprise hinges on the authority of a single prophet (Muhammad and Joseph Smith, respectively); the selective use of the Christian scriptures but the supremacy of a new revelation; polygamy was originally permitted; abstinence from alcohol is required; etc. I believe Mormonism was in the 19/c sometimes referred to as the American Islam or Joseph Smith, the American Muhammad.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @dr kill

    , @HA
    @Jefferson

    >"Why are so many Utah Mormons offended by Donald Trump’s comments on Muslims?"

    It was in the late 70's that Mormons reversed their long-standing policy excluding black men from the priesthood. As with Germans eager to compensate for Nazi persecution in WWII, some Mormons are now attempting to work through their collective guilt by eagerly shouting "Racist!" and wagging fingers at any opportunity.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_Revelation_on_Priesthood

    Not that these efforts are met with much appreciation. Note the reaction to Mitt Romney's adopted black grandchild:

    http://rare.us/story/mitt-romney-has-an-adopted-grandchild-left-erupts-with-venom/

  74. @Marty
    Well, this has to be your strangest post ever, Steve. You start quotation of Sotomayor's dissent right after she acknowledges that the respondent is white? In other words, the cops make an unlawful, no-individualized-suspicion Terry stop on a white guy, indicating maybe they don't single out darkskins, and she immediately goes into her "woe is us" routine? Isn't that psychopathy?

    Replies: @AndrewR, @bomag

    Isn’t that psychopathy?

    Not that, but it shows you that Sotomayor et al come hard wired with a belief in the Narrative, and believe that quoting pop culture bolsters their case.

  75. 73 comments and Jefferson has made 8 of them. God almighty just shut up and go away.

  76. @syonredux
    @SPMoore8

    RE: Sotomayor's struggles with English,


    Judge Sonia Sotomayor said in a 1996 speech at Princeton University’s Third World Center (now called the Carl A. Fields Center) that when she arrived at Princeton in 1972 as her high school’s valedictorian, “I found out that my Latina background had created difficulties in my writing that I needed to overcome. For example, in Spanish we do not have adjectives. A noun is described with a preposition…. My writing was stilted and overly complicated, my grammar and vocabulary skills weak.”
     
    You know, I don't even speak Spanish, but....

    libro rojo

    red book

    pluma roja

    red pen

    libros rojos

    red books

    plumas rojas

    red pens

    Maybe Sonia is semi-literate in two languages?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Josh, @artichoke, @Hibernian

    No way. That can’t be real.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Josh

    Sotomayor screwed up her anecdote about herself:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXYOUxkKxM4

    Replies: @syonredux

  77. @jJay
    It was very common back in the '80 and '90 (I don't know about now) for adult black crack dealers to have children run (literally) product for them. Children wouldn't be punished much for this. I am not surprised that Coates would have seen or heard about innocent black kids at play being harassed during that time when police swept the neighborhood on drug stings.

    But who called 911 on the dealers to begin with?

    Replies: @Jefferson, @V Vega

    But who called 911 on the dealers to begin with?

    If they’re Section 8’ers, then it will often be the white home owners who live across the street from the Section 8 apartment house.

    At first.

    The calls will tend to drop off after the Section 8 negroes verbally threaten to kill the white people, who they will always assume called the police on them. The negros will follow up on it with direct physical confrontations. They will also vandalize the suspected white persons car during the night, and/or deface the white persons property.

    After the white folks sell their house, and move, it’s likely the house will turn into a rental, and a minority will move in, if not more section 8’ers. If the new minorities happen to be A Latino family, it could be the beginning of the end for negro gang members, provided more Hispanics move into the area. Latinos will violently confront any blacks making trouble, and the usually win in the end. Latinos have superior social networks. Negros often do not.

    Sans Latinos stepping in, and no white people around, the police will then have to rely on undercover operations, or exploiting an ex-gang member whose life has been threatened by his former gang members for trying to leave.

    That’s kind of how the script plays out in California.

  78. @Josh
    @syonredux

    No way. That can't be real.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Sotomayor screwed up her anecdote about herself:

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Steve Sailer


    Sotomayor screwed up her anecdote about herself:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXYOUxkKxM4
     
    I'm starting to wonder if Sonia has ever seen Casablanca......Wait, excuse me, obviously that should be Casa de Blanca.....
  79. @Jefferson
    Hildabeast's popularity has actually gone up in the polls after the Orlando terrorist attack.

    It's the fault of Donald Trump and White Christian Republicans that this terrorist attack occurred really does resonate with the majority of American voters.

    Islamic Terrorist attacks on U.S soil really does politically benefit the Left more than the Right. The more terrorist attacks occur, the more American voters flock to Hildabeast.

    Replies: @27 year old, @Anonymous, @Federalist, @boogerbently, @EriK, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Glaivester, @rod1963, @Peter Akuleyev, @JohnnyWalker123

    Don’t you get it? In the minds of most liberals this was not a Muslim terrorist attack. The idea that Muslims are often violent homophobes is one that liberals just refuse to accept. Too much cognitive dissonance. Liberals will agree that Muslim terrorists methods are wrong, but usually still try to justify the rationale behind the attack – it’s a response to colonialism, CharlieHebdo went too far, “blowback”, etc. Here we just have pure Muslim hatred of Western decadence, i.e. liberalism. Hence, the Orlando attack has to blamed on something else, such as “toxic masculinity” or guns.

    At the same time, the fact that Mateen targeted mostly gay latinos probably does mean the typical working class straight white swing voter may not take the attack as personally and was more likely to see Trump’s response as a little self-centered and tone deaf. If Mateen had killed 50 white Christians while praying you would have seen Trump’s numbers rise.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Aren't "blowback" and "Muslim terrorist attack" consistent explanations?

    I'm anything but a "liberal" as the term has come to be understood. You and I likely agree on gun control and many other issues that are being raised and crusades that are being furthered in the wake of this event.

    But I doubt that this horror would have happened without Uncle Sam killing many innocent people, disproportionately Muslims, in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Serbia, etc., for the last 20+ years. That's what the shooter reportedly said, which may explain the slow drag concerning release of his several calls to 911.

    In the meantime, what qualifies you or anyone else to say, "Here we just have pure Muslim hatred of Western decadence, i.e. liberalism"? That's what you want to believe, but it seems that in that regard you're afflicted with "cognitive dissonance," too.

    Replies: @Bill

    , @Nico
    @Peter Akuleyev


    If Mateen had killed 50 white Christians while praying you would have seen Trump’s numbers rise.
     
    In the Middle East they do in fact do that regularly nowadays, but the occasional black baby mowed down by the cop he's roughing up just fits better with the narrative.
    , @Jefferson
    @Peter Akuleyev

    "At the same time, the fact that Mateen targeted mostly gay latinos probably does mean the typical working class straight white swing voter may not take the attack as personally and was more likely to see Trump’s response as a little self-centered and tone deaf."

    Why would White working class voters who hates Gays vote for Hildabeast? Do they believe Hildabeast will abolish Gay marriage and make Gay pride parades illegal if she becomes POTUS?

    Hildabeast is probably going to put at least one Homosexual in The Supreme Court. Her cabinet is going to have a disproportional number of Homosexuals as well.

    , @Perplexed
    @Peter Akuleyev

    The Mateens reconnoitered a Disney property but decided they couldn't pull it off.

  80. It’s funny that WEB DuBois’s The Souls of Black Folk (1903) gets a cite there, too: it’s a good book, but I’m not sure the relevance.

    I’ve been thinking that the last few years have been the final overwhelming victory of DuBois’s Talented Tenth (eg, Sotomayor and Obama) vision over the last vestiges of Booker T Washingtonism.

    https://spottedtoad.wordpress.com/2016/06/09/du-bois-and-washington-yesterday-and-today/

  81. @Steve Sailer
    Teh-Genius Coates is good, too.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Buffalo Joe

    “teh Genius” is genius.

  82. Here’s the thing about “the Talk”: I recall it being customary in my white working class milieu in the Seventies/Eighties, and, typical for So Cal, focused on successfully negotiating the traffic stop. Keep your hands on the wheel where the cop can see them as he approaches, don’t fish around for your wallet so all he sees is a guy reaching for something, etc.

    • Replies: @JsP
    @Dennis Dale

    As a white non-criminal I can say that my experience with cops is that they've been assholes to me. Big time. And I'm certainly aware (verging on paranoid) that I need to keep my hands on the wheel, treat them with "respect" (ie like a prisoner treats his sadistic captor), etc.

    So I have to give black guys a pass on part of this--thinking cops are treating them like shit.

    If society said that cops were biased against middle class white guys with nice cars and no criminal record that would comport with my personal experience perfectly.

    So what is a black guy supposed to believe when he's told black guys, innocent or not, get treated like criminals while white guys like me are supposedly treated like brothers in arms, greeted with a smile and an apology? It fits their experience precisely.

    That's one of the dangers of bs narratives--you tell someone it's an elephant and they see something that looks like an elephants tail, so what are they going to believe?

    Replies: @Psmith, @Gutenberg, @V Vega, @SPMoore8, @mts1

    , @Tex
    @Dennis Dale

    I got the same talk about reaching for stuff on a stop from the guy teaching my firearms training when I worked as an armed guard. Besides me the group included two girls (one white, one black) and an ex-cop (white). This was back in the '80s.

    , @dr kill
    @Dennis Dale

    I've been rolling down the window and sticking both hands far out so the cop can see them before he even gets out of his cruiser.. Then when they ask for something I tell them where it's located and that I'm now going to move one hand to retrieve it. '
    Laugh if you must at this old gray head, but I've had lots of stops and I'm still not dead.'

  83. @Chrisnonymous
    @Ed

    Back in the beginning of the R primary, I wrote on iSteve that the media could defeat Trump by reporting about him instead of reporting his words and reporting that he was failing instead of that he was a surprise success. Looks like they figured it out.

    Hillary is getting a bump now with her "first woman candidate" news, and the negative attacks haven't started yet. So, it's not too late, but it is not looking good right now. Trump mainstreamed himself in the wrong way. He needed to show more depth of knowledge and thought and to lay off personal attacks. Instead, he's changed his haircut and asked the GOP for money.

    The current popularity slump started with his comments on Curiel. That was stupid. Trump U was a big problem because Trump was actually scamming people out of their savings. Distraction was a good idea but not the way he did it.

    Replies: @Difference maker, @WJ

    “reporting about him instead of reporting his words and reporting that he was failing instead of that he was a surprise success. ”

    Already thought of that but wasnt so crass as to put it in public view

  84. @Dennis Dale
    Here's the thing about "the Talk": I recall it being customary in my white working class milieu in the Seventies/Eighties, and, typical for So Cal, focused on successfully negotiating the traffic stop. Keep your hands on the wheel where the cop can see them as he approaches, don't fish around for your wallet so all he sees is a guy reaching for something, etc.

    Replies: @JsP, @Tex, @dr kill

    As a white non-criminal I can say that my experience with cops is that they’ve been assholes to me. Big time. And I’m certainly aware (verging on paranoid) that I need to keep my hands on the wheel, treat them with “respect” (ie like a prisoner treats his sadistic captor), etc.

    So I have to give black guys a pass on part of this–thinking cops are treating them like shit.

    If society said that cops were biased against middle class white guys with nice cars and no criminal record that would comport with my personal experience perfectly.

    So what is a black guy supposed to believe when he’s told black guys, innocent or not, get treated like criminals while white guys like me are supposedly treated like brothers in arms, greeted with a smile and an apology? It fits their experience precisely.

    That’s one of the dangers of bs narratives–you tell someone it’s an elephant and they see something that looks like an elephants tail, so what are they going to believe?

    • Agree: Bill
    • Replies: @Psmith
    @JsP

    I've heard reliable accounts to this effect, though I've only ever really had personal experience with nasty cops in Morton Grove. I suspect it varies by location a good deal.

    , @Gutenberg
    @JsP

    That's a great point, I never thought of it like that.

    , @V Vega
    @JsP


    That’s one of the dangers of bs narratives–you tell someone it’s an elephant and they see something that looks like an elephants tail, so what are they going to believe?
     
    I guess that would significantly depend on your ethnic group's collective IQ. Since IQ tests are based on pattern recognition, society can't have a collective shorthand to function amongst themselves if a significant number can't even detect what the shorthand is based on.

    This is why blacks with Section 8 vouchers who are ushered in to middle-class white communities ultimately destroy those communities.

    See "Detroit."
    , @SPMoore8
    @JsP

    The reason most cops act like jerks is because basically they are vulnerable and they want to be in control of the situation and not have anyone question their authority. And they pretty much treat everyone the same way.

    As cops get older and more experienced they start to get better cues about the people they are dealing with and that's where you get the more laid back type cops, once they have you typed as OK. I would bet that 90% of the needless shootings by cops are by guys or gals who haven't been doing it long enough to feel secure in what they are doing.

    For this reason the best way to deal with a police officer is to let him know he is in charge. Call him officer or sir, keep your hands in plain sight, bow your head, comply with commands, no sudden movements, engage in non-hostile dialog. That can change the interaction right there. Even if you have a point however it's advisable not to talk too much during a stop. They can't process all of that when they are trying to process you and the environment, and if they get overloaded they will get a threat feeling and turn into a jerk again.

    I know most of the local cops where I live so I never have a problem with them. Out of state, if I see an officer doing something I will approach slowly, call him officer, and ask if he needs assistance. Never any problem there, either.

    You are right that if black kids are always "taught" that the cops are out to get them they are likely to go into any stop by a police officer with a big chip on their shoulder. And that can get bad really quick.

    , @mts1
    @JsP

    I never got "the talk" in one sitting, but had a father who more effectively dropped his pearls of wisdom along the way. Upon seeing a guy in an overcoat in July, "anyone wearing that much coat in summer is crazy, carrying a sawed-off, most likely both." Entering an eatery, "never sit up front, sit further back, along the wall if possible, to view the whole room. Know all your exits. Someone looks all antsy before walking in, be ready to book." "Never go to a bar where you know no one, good way to get your self beat or at the least robbed, at least overcharged by the bartender. Only go with someone known there." "Going to a ball game or concert with your buddies? What if they ditch you? Pin $100 in your shorts and you can hail a cab home or put up in a hotel for the night and phone for a ride in the morning."

    Cops? Assume bad and corrupt until they prove otherwise. They all have one name: Officer. Some are jerks out of the fun of it, others because they're as scared as you. The street is no place to dispute a ticket. Court is, and find a lawyer as crooked as the judge.

    He didn't push the stupid people in stupid places doing stupid things, or nothing good happens after 10 p.m. memes, just never get under the influence in strange places so you can keep your wits sharp and cut out when the going gets weird and the weird turn pro (again, the $100 Get out of Dodge money in your undies for the cab to the Holiday Inn). And when walking through ghettoes, stand tall and look everyone in the eye. They'll think you're a cop, nuts, or both, and not horse with you.

  85. @Jefferson
    Hildabeast's popularity has actually gone up in the polls after the Orlando terrorist attack.

    It's the fault of Donald Trump and White Christian Republicans that this terrorist attack occurred really does resonate with the majority of American voters.

    Islamic Terrorist attacks on U.S soil really does politically benefit the Left more than the Right. The more terrorist attacks occur, the more American voters flock to Hildabeast.

    Replies: @27 year old, @Anonymous, @Federalist, @boogerbently, @EriK, @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Glaivester, @rod1963, @Peter Akuleyev, @JohnnyWalker123

    That’s not correct.

    Trump’s support has risen slightly since the attack. He’s behind by 5% nationally.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @JohnnyWalker123

    You're not going to convince the crew of doom masturbators on here that the polling is being gamed and that only if we had gone with Ted Cruz all would be well.

    Same group of people who write tiresome screeds to "tiny duck" about how the media is lying can't type enough words about how polls are 1000% correct.

    Looking at the battleground polls tells a whole different story than TRUMP DOWN 80 POINTS but oh well.

  86. @AndrewR
    @Jefferson

    It's not but there are many millions of black Democrats. My liberal side wants to believe that at least a few of them are brighter than I. Coates shows no such signs.

    Replies: @Nico

    It’s not but there are many millions of black Democrats. My liberal side wants to believe that at least a few of them are brighter than I.

    See Ann Coulter’s book title, “If Democrats Had Any Brains, They’d Be Republicans.” A caricature and an exaggeration, obviously, but if you spend any time around most black Democrats I guarantee you’ll be shutting that “liberal side” up pretty fast.

    • Replies: @Spotted Toad
    @Nico

    I think while undergraduate affirmative action works mostly the way you'd expect it to (i.e., it puts black students in schools that are too competitive for them, but the colleges are still mostly grabbing the best black students they can get), affirmative action at other levels is actually more irrational still. I've seen quite weak students get into top grad schools because they knew how to talk the intersectionality lingo just right, while strong students, if they applied to fields like literature where there's a fair amount of black applicants, struck out because they made the mistake of acting like they wanted to study Dostoevsky and Kipling instead of comic books and Chimamanda Adichie.

    Coates was a quite good magazine journalist, within his narrow beat- his 2007 Cosby article and 2008 Michele Obama article were both fine, and I even liked Fear of a Black President. But there was an enormous pent-up desire for an authentically black public intellectual who said the things people wanted to hear- no wishy washy Glenn Loury or John McWhorter or Roland Fryer. (It was a lot like how Piketty became a #1 bestseller with a quite boring book saying the same thing as any number of magazine articles about inequality, simply because he was an Official Economist saying it.) All the better that Coates was a college dropout, and one from West Baltimore at that- the one ghetto neighborhood in America that, thanks to the Wire, every Goodthinking journalist in America knows well.

    (A lot of the Ta-Nehisi Coates phenomenon of 2009-2015 was about how he related to other journalists. I think if you hang out on Twitter you realize there are twelve quadrillion journalists and would-be journalists all sweating each other, terrified that they're going to get fired, jealous of every big "piece" that comes out but anxious to be seen as praising it, and so on. Ta-Nehisi Coates is, well, "like crack" to that precise demographic; he's black and authentic when they're white and all went to Vassar or Brown; he reads long books about distant history while they are all hysterical about the news of the last minute; he writes lyrically and is willing to make calls and interview sources while they all use the same jokey Vox/Buzzfeed/Slate lexicon, short sentences and do most of their interviewing by e-mail; he had a convivial (and then hagiographic) relationship with his blog readers and commenters while they are constantly shouted down by thousands of angry anonymous comments. Undoubtedly, he also offers something to the broader culture, but you have to see him as a choice of other journalists first (in a time when, due to the changing economics of media, journalists have more readers but less money and security than ever before.) The last piece is that he was unusual among journalists in talking with historians, and his blog had a lot of historians commenting for a while; it gave him a particular cheering section within academia that could expand rapidly.)

  87. @Jefferson
    @Lot

    "Phoenix gets to 115 every summer, so 120 isn’t too big a deal."

    It's a big enough deal that it has caused a couple of deaths.
    http://kron4.com/2016/06/20/death-toll-from-heat-hits-5-in-arizona/

    Also a flight to Phoenix had to be diverted because it was too hot.
    http://m.chron.com/about/article/Phoenix-heat-sends-diverts-flight-back-to-Houston-8312249.php

    "It’s not bad in the shade or in the pool."

    You live in San Diego where it rarely gets desert level hot like Phoenix.

    Replies: @Big Bill, @Jack Hanson

    Driving a motorcycle in Phoenix this time of year is like driving into a blast furnace or a giant blow dryer.

    I had to wait until after midnight to leave Phoenix on the interstate headed east … and it was STILL in the mid 90s.

    Everyone parking outside put a towel on their steering wheel so their hands don’t get burned when they get back inside and drive away.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Big Bill

    Big Bill, I drove a Mercedes 500 series out to Phoenix for a friend. I thought the outside temp gauge was broken as it registered 120 degrees. You can not catch your breath and black top is hotter than the air temp. I never left the hotel except to catch a cab to the airport and home. It may not be Hell, but you can see it from Phoenix.

  88. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    My own, rather elaborate (belated) take on the NYT take:

    Supreme Court Says Police May Use Evidence Found After Illegal Stops

    Not mentioned in the scary headline, the ruling only applies to detainees with outstanding warrants.

    Sotomayor, Ginsburg, Kagan, dissenting. Hark!— A mariachi band playing in a cave, echo-echo-echoing. And we are supposed to believe …. NO HAY BANDA. There is no band playing. It is an illusion.

    I bolded some of the following for emphasis:

    In a dissent that cited W. E. B. Du Bois, James Baldwin and Ta-Nehisi Coates, Justice Sotomayor said the court had vastly expanded police power.

    “This case tells everyone, white and black, guilty and innocent, that an officer can verify your legal status at any time,” she wrote. “It says that your body is subject to invasion while courts excuse the violation of your rights.
     
    Black babies’ bodies. An actual sitting Supreme Court Justice citing full-on melodramatic SJW “critical race theory.” Caracas, here we come.

    Fun stat FTA:

    And according to the Justice Department, about 16,000 of the 21,000 residents of Ferguson, Mo., are subject to arrest warrants.
     
    Let that sink in. 16 out of 21 residents (that 21 base includes children???). Almost every adult is officially a law breaker to some degree? Yeah, I know, I know:

    “Maaaan, them warrants is boo-shihh. Bet they dindu nuffin.”

    Wise Latina drops real knowledge:

    “For generations,” she wrote, “black and brown parents have given their children ‘the talk’ — instructing them never to run down the street; always keep your hands where they can be seen; do not even think of talking back to a stranger — all out of fear of how an officer with a gun will react to them.”
     
    Seems all that imaginary Huxtable advice ain’t getting through. Like: Don’t do stuff that incurs warrants, kids.

    Replies: @Dr. X

    Seems all that imaginary Huxtable advice ain’t getting through. Like: Don’t do stuff that incurs warrants, kids.

    Yeah — Dr. Huxtable says don’t commit serial rape over four decades…

  89. @27 year old
    @Jefferson

    I have to suspect that these polls are fraudulent, and that certain people are trying to meme the reality they want into existence. Jazzhands McFeels and Marcus Halberstram (hosts of weekly Fash The Nation) have described that the current polls are using D +10 and above samples. Meaning they are oversampling Democrats. Which, you see goy, makes sense, based on the primary turnout R vs D.

    Replies: @Ed, @Jacobsson, @415 reasons

    All throughout 2012 I convinced myself the polls must be biased. It was a cute theory that explained a lot and turned out to be 100% wrong. A simpler explanation of the polls and election results is that we are rapidly approaching (or whizzed past without realizing) the point where the Democrats efforts to elect a new people have made the Democrats the permanent ruling party. Kind of like Sovier Russia but at least there you could understand what their end game was. Here the PC crazy train has no brakes.

    • Replies: @candid_observer
    @415 reasons

    And how does one know that the polls are not biased? When does the ground truth ever rear its head?

    Answer: only at election time. And, how surprising, come election time, polls almost always "tighten". It's almost as if the class knows it can't cheat anymore because the proctor is looking down directly over their desks.

    The point is: if, before election time, one wants to manipulate one's poll -- say, because one thinks it's incredibly important to stop The Next Hitler -- then there's essentially nothing to stand in one's way, except, perhaps a need not to be too ridiculous an outlier among all the other polls. But even the outlier problem gets remedied when you know everyone else is also pulling against The Next Hitler.

    One of the more ridiculous aspects of modern polling is just how far their numbers stray from each other -- far, far beyond the supposed "margins of error", which are basically jokes. If two polls have a disparity of 10 points -- which they often do -- and the margin of error of each is 3 pts, how likely is it that that discrepancy is due to random selection? One in a trillion maybe? So all the real error is in methodological differences. And all kinds of manipulative stuff can be buried in those "methodological differences".

  90. @cwhatfuture
    This section of the dissent is absurdly unnecessary and it looks like Sotomayor, or more likely her law clerk, had written it out for some other reason and simply could not wait to put it in an opinion, despite the fact that there is no connection between the actual case and these words. I note that the other dissenters did not join in this section; Kagan wrote her own dissent which is far more nuanced, and Ginsburg excluded herself from this section of Sotomayor's opinion. Even those two liberals were probably embarrassed by this outburst. I also note the petulant "I dissent" and not the normal "I respectfully dissent". Sotomayor looks very foolish.

    Having said that, I agree with the dissent on policy grounds (I do not know the jurisprudence). I don't think the police should be able to stop someone without cause and justify it by the presence of a warrant they knew nothing about when they made the stop.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Olorin, @Psmith, @Buffalo Joe

    Strongly agree. “hur hur genius award” is entertaining and all, but this is a pretty damn bad decision.

  91. @JsP
    @Dennis Dale

    As a white non-criminal I can say that my experience with cops is that they've been assholes to me. Big time. And I'm certainly aware (verging on paranoid) that I need to keep my hands on the wheel, treat them with "respect" (ie like a prisoner treats his sadistic captor), etc.

    So I have to give black guys a pass on part of this--thinking cops are treating them like shit.

    If society said that cops were biased against middle class white guys with nice cars and no criminal record that would comport with my personal experience perfectly.

    So what is a black guy supposed to believe when he's told black guys, innocent or not, get treated like criminals while white guys like me are supposedly treated like brothers in arms, greeted with a smile and an apology? It fits their experience precisely.

    That's one of the dangers of bs narratives--you tell someone it's an elephant and they see something that looks like an elephants tail, so what are they going to believe?

    Replies: @Psmith, @Gutenberg, @V Vega, @SPMoore8, @mts1

    I’ve heard reliable accounts to this effect, though I’ve only ever really had personal experience with nasty cops in Morton Grove. I suspect it varies by location a good deal.

  92. OT: Today’s Word of the Day is ‘sniglet’: any word coined for something that has no specific name. The word was invented by actor-comedian Rich Hall in a funny little book of examples. Interestingly, sniglet is a sniglet.

    So, ‘thing’ already has a name.

  93. @Nico
    @AndrewR


    It’s not but there are many millions of black Democrats. My liberal side wants to believe that at least a few of them are brighter than I.
     
    See Ann Coulter's book title, "If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans." A caricature and an exaggeration, obviously, but if you spend any time around most black Democrats I guarantee you'll be shutting that "liberal side" up pretty fast.

    Replies: @Spotted Toad

    I think while undergraduate affirmative action works mostly the way you’d expect it to (i.e., it puts black students in schools that are too competitive for them, but the colleges are still mostly grabbing the best black students they can get), affirmative action at other levels is actually more irrational still. I’ve seen quite weak students get into top grad schools because they knew how to talk the intersectionality lingo just right, while strong students, if they applied to fields like literature where there’s a fair amount of black applicants, struck out because they made the mistake of acting like they wanted to study Dostoevsky and Kipling instead of comic books and Chimamanda Adichie.

    Coates was a quite good magazine journalist, within his narrow beat- his 2007 Cosby article and 2008 Michele Obama article were both fine, and I even liked Fear of a Black President. But there was an enormous pent-up desire for an authentically black public intellectual who said the things people wanted to hear- no wishy washy Glenn Loury or John McWhorter or Roland Fryer. (It was a lot like how Piketty became a #1 bestseller with a quite boring book saying the same thing as any number of magazine articles about inequality, simply because he was an Official Economist saying it.) All the better that Coates was a college dropout, and one from West Baltimore at that- the one ghetto neighborhood in America that, thanks to the Wire, every Goodthinking journalist in America knows well.

    (A lot of the Ta-Nehisi Coates phenomenon of 2009-2015 was about how he related to other journalists. I think if you hang out on Twitter you realize there are twelve quadrillion journalists and would-be journalists all sweating each other, terrified that they’re going to get fired, jealous of every big “piece” that comes out but anxious to be seen as praising it, and so on. Ta-Nehisi Coates is, well, “like crack” to that precise demographic; he’s black and authentic when they’re white and all went to Vassar or Brown; he reads long books about distant history while they are all hysterical about the news of the last minute; he writes lyrically and is willing to make calls and interview sources while they all use the same jokey Vox/Buzzfeed/Slate lexicon, short sentences and do most of their interviewing by e-mail; he had a convivial (and then hagiographic) relationship with his blog readers and commenters while they are constantly shouted down by thousands of angry anonymous comments. Undoubtedly, he also offers something to the broader culture, but you have to see him as a choice of other journalists first (in a time when, due to the changing economics of media, journalists have more readers but less money and security than ever before.) The last piece is that he was unusual among journalists in talking with historians, and his blog had a lot of historians commenting for a while; it gave him a particular cheering section within academia that could expand rapidly.)

  94. @Anonymous
    The white western world is a result of the white western mind.

    Soto is an alien and her mind will ever be so.

    The world that is brought to fruition by the thinking of Soto & Coates will not be white or western. It will be a mix of Puerto Rico and Jamaica with all of that dysfunction and great absence of rule of law.

    Cities like Miami city proper (some exclusions) and Los Angeles city proper (west side excluded) are already departed from western civ. These are part of the mestizo second wave following the African first wave which took so many American cities away from our civilization.

    Replies: @Thea, @ben tillman

    We’ve been ceding territory left and right. Not just land but institutions like schools.

    This was baked into the cake of early WASP New England progressives like the Oneida experiment.

  95. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    @Jefferson

    Don't you get it? In the minds of most liberals this was not a Muslim terrorist attack. The idea that Muslims are often violent homophobes is one that liberals just refuse to accept. Too much cognitive dissonance. Liberals will agree that Muslim terrorists methods are wrong, but usually still try to justify the rationale behind the attack - it's a response to colonialism, CharlieHebdo went too far, "blowback", etc. Here we just have pure Muslim hatred of Western decadence, i.e. liberalism. Hence, the Orlando attack has to blamed on something else, such as "toxic masculinity" or guns.

    At the same time, the fact that Mateen targeted mostly gay latinos probably does mean the typical working class straight white swing voter may not take the attack as personally and was more likely to see Trump's response as a little self-centered and tone deaf. If Mateen had killed 50 white Christians while praying you would have seen Trump's numbers rise.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Nico, @Jefferson, @Perplexed

    Aren’t “blowback” and “Muslim terrorist attack” consistent explanations?

    I’m anything but a “liberal” as the term has come to be understood. You and I likely agree on gun control and many other issues that are being raised and crusades that are being furthered in the wake of this event.

    But I doubt that this horror would have happened without Uncle Sam killing many innocent people, disproportionately Muslims, in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Serbia, etc., for the last 20+ years. That’s what the shooter reportedly said, which may explain the slow drag concerning release of his several calls to 911.

    In the meantime, what qualifies you or anyone else to say, “Here we just have pure Muslim hatred of Western decadence, i.e. liberalism”? That’s what you want to believe, but it seems that in that regard you’re afflicted with “cognitive dissonance,” too.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @anonymous

    Serbia? We killed Orthodox Christians in Serbia and then helped Muslims ethnically cleanse them. Is there some crazy Muslim sub-cultural fantasy that we weren't on their side in Serbia?

    Replies: @anonymous

  96. @L7's
    Really more fitting for the recent crime ....but my brother brutasale you should check out michael Harveys latest called brighton. It nails the crazy boston neighborhood of my youth.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Hey, I LIVED in Brighton while I was at BU (1979-1983) on Washington Street a block from Comm Ave. The Fidelis Way Projects were basically 2 blocks away, and there were times I was the only white person at the laundromat on the corner. Large Irish community, early yuppies, Jews from over the Brookline border and literally thousands of students made for an interesting stew. Given all the coeds, it was always the sexual assault capital of Massachusetts.

    But law enforcement was different then. I remember back in ’82 coming home from my club job on the last B Line train, just me and the driver. A BPD cruiser came flying up the inside lane of Comm Ave. as we were climbing the hill. We heard the brakes squeal and the driver turned off the interior lights and stopped. A hood rat was trying to break into the store on the corner, and he jumped down and reached into his pocket as the cop opened the passenger door. The cop driving hit the gas and the other knocked the kid flying with the passenger door! They just picked up the kid, all busted up, cuffed him (with the knee in his back, of course) and threw him in the back of the cruiser. No muss, no fuss, no repercussions.

    The flip side was that the weekly Saturday night brawls outside McMahon’s involving groups of Irish knuckleheads all lubed up and ready for action rarely had the cops stirring out of the BPD Brighton substation, which was all of 100 feet away!

    As was usually the case in Boston, the large Irish community in Brighton was responsible for helping limit the depredations of the project dwellers.

    I judge all Allston-Brighton residents’ ages by asking if they’re old enough to remember the 2 tacos and a beer for $2 at the old El Phoenix Room!

    I’ll definitely be checking out Harvey’s book.

  97. Some outsiders will say at least it’s a dry heat, but dry heat is only comfortable or tolerable up to a certain point. 120F dry heat is way past the comfortable or tolerable point.

    I lived in NorCal for a bit. I remember thinking “this is nothin’” when the temp went up over a hundred. I grew up near Charleston. When it’s up over a hundred around here, you KNOW it. Stepping into the shade isn’t gonna help. Never saw it go to 120 in NorCal, though. I do think the heat index is a better way to compare. Heat index is always a lot higher than the official temps in a super-humid environment like this; I bet the heat index routinely hits 120 here, during a hot summer (so far we have not had a hot summer this year, we’ve had a very mild year so far). I’ll take a dry heat any day.

    Trump may do better with (currently) undecideds than we think.

    Almost certainly. While the media made the valid point that a lot of Bernie voters are stubbornly remaining in the undecided camp, and will probably break heavily for cankles, they neglected to mention Trump’s reverse Bradley effect; a lot of the less brash whites will tell pollsters they’re undecided, when they’re planning on voting for Donald “OMG He’s HITLER!” Trump.

  98. Jack Hanson says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    @Jefferson

    That's not correct.

    Trump's support has risen slightly since the attack. He's behind by 5% nationally.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    You’re not going to convince the crew of doom masturbators on here that the polling is being gamed and that only if we had gone with Ted Cruz all would be well.

    Same group of people who write tiresome screeds to “tiny duck” about how the media is lying can’t type enough words about how polls are 1000% correct.

    Looking at the battleground polls tells a whole different story than TRUMP DOWN 80 POINTS but oh well.

  99. What I find fascinating about Sotomayor invoking “the talk” is the sheer cluelessness (alternatively, patronizing lecturing tone) of such recitation. If Sotomayor feels especially ‘put out’ by the existence of “the talk,” it might behoove her to know (white) parents have been raising their children to conduct themselves with propriety when in public and to show respect for police officers (authority figures, adults), so there is no need for “the talk” as it is built in to their upbringing and character.

    Perhaps the Latina is not so wise after all.

  100. Jack Hanson says:
    @Jefferson
    @Lot

    "Phoenix gets to 115 every summer, so 120 isn’t too big a deal."

    It's a big enough deal that it has caused a couple of deaths.
    http://kron4.com/2016/06/20/death-toll-from-heat-hits-5-in-arizona/

    Also a flight to Phoenix had to be diverted because it was too hot.
    http://m.chron.com/about/article/Phoenix-heat-sends-diverts-flight-back-to-Houston-8312249.php

    "It’s not bad in the shade or in the pool."

    You live in San Diego where it rarely gets desert level hot like Phoenix.

    Replies: @Big Bill, @Jack Hanson

    As a Phoenician, at least two of those people died because they were too stupid to heed the words of “120 degree heat” and went for a hike or bike ride.

    For some reason people get absolutely obsessive regarding hiking some of the mountains around here everyday. You run into 60 year olds who brag about running Camelback Mountain everyday for four years and then die of heat stroke. One of the fatalities was a 28 year old female fitness instructor.

    Arizona already has a stupid motorist law, but they’re beginning to talk about a stupid hiker law for the people who go out and get in trouble during a heat wave cause they want to hike 4 miles with a liter bottle of water.

    • Replies: @MC
    @Jack Hanson

    I've done Squaw Peak in 115 degrees or so. It's strangely therapeutic. But I would hike slowly and take a backpack full of at least one gallon of water and snacks.

    Replies: @syonredux

    , @Anonymous
    @Jack Hanson

    "28 year old female fitness instructor" seems to be a descriptor that comes up a lot in those articles you see everyday in places like The Daily Mail about unfortunate, preventable fatal accidents.

  101. @Steve Sailer
    @Josh

    Sotomayor screwed up her anecdote about herself:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXYOUxkKxM4

    Replies: @syonredux

    Sotomayor screwed up her anecdote about herself:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXYOUxkKxM4

    I’m starting to wonder if Sonia has ever seen Casablanca……Wait, excuse me, obviously that should be Casa de Blanca…..

  102. Coates is a fucking retard and so is the wise Latina. Only reason they are where they are is their race. They know it, everyone knows it. And this is what we have, retarded intellects all over the courts, schools and ruling class. Puppetheads of color doing the bad-guys’ bidding. Those bastards were brilliant using the morons against us.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Jim Christian


    Coates is a fucking retard and so is the wise Latina. Only reason they are where they are is their race.
     
    I agree with your first sentence, but what is her race? How is she not white?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  103. @Jefferson
    Hildabeast is projected to win Utah. Why are so many Utah Mormons offended by Donald Trump's comments on Muslims? Do Mormons see themselves as an oppressed religious minority and see Donald Trump as the big bad racist Protestant?

    Replies: @Ed, @e, @Jack Hanson, @Hibernian, @Percy Gryce, @HA

    She’s not going to win Utah. It might be closer than expected though.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    @Ed

    They say that black female incumbent rep is in trouble currently. Mia Love I think

  104. @Mr. Anon
    @SPMoore8

    "Well, back when she was running for SCOTUS, Sotomayor talked up Nancy Drew and Perry Mason as her inspirations. So I guess if that’s your intellectual base, Teh Genius Coates will seem Kantian in comparison."

    You sure about that? I think it likely that a popular TV courtroom drama from the 50s is more sophisticated than most anything written by Teh Genius.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    I’m a huge fan of “Perry Mason”; grew up with it in a family with a lot of legal people around. Amazingly complex and talky compared to modern TV. There was a lot of sophisticated TV back in the day, it’s worth checking out. However most people are allergic to B&W and more’s the pity, because there’s a huge backlog of good cinema from the old days, too.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @SPMoore8

    As for as I'm concerned, Have Gun-Will Travel is the greatest TV Western of all time

    , @iSteveFan
    @SPMoore8

    You need to watch MeTV

  105. It’s only a matter of time before she’s citing The Grio or Jezebel.

  106. OT – If you are supporting Trump please donate today. He is having a matching funds offer going on. So if you donate $50, one hundred will get contributed.

    • Replies: @Jeff Albertson
    @iSteveFan

    I think I found Trevor Lyman, the guy that did the money bombs for Ron Paul.
    https://www.upwork.com/mobile/freelancers/~01f7fb0a5aaa83b164

    I didn't contact him because I know I lack the follow-through to develop and promote anything, but his contract rate of $25 per hour sounds pretty reasonable, especially if he owns the original code. Money bombs are very effective because they credit and bring the donor right into the process, but they can't really be effective if done directly by the campaign, and if they are very successful they create their own publicity. Can you imagine collecting millions in small donations for a billionaire candidate, with no connection to the official campaign, especially if the GOP is seen to be dragging it's feet?

    I have a lot of ideas, but no moxie; I guess I'll just send a few digits to the official site, win or lose. I certainly don't regret the 99 electrobux I sent to the Unz campaign. Some windmills just need tilting!

  107. Way OT, but I just saw a video of a speech made by Stephen Miller introducing Trump that was pretty remarkable in its clarity and power. (I generally hate listening to speeches, but this one easily kept my full attention.)

    I of course wish Trump himself possessed the same level of focus and sharpness in his speeches, but you get what you get. Obviously nobody would be listening to Stephen Miller if there were no Donald Trump.

    • Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...
    @candid_observer

    You're absolutely right. This is a great speech.

  108. Shame on you Steven, for having the audacity to laugh at the antics of Genius T. Coates instead of genuflecting to him and his third-hand Foucault cant.

  109. @SPMoore8
    @Mr. Anon

    I'm a huge fan of "Perry Mason"; grew up with it in a family with a lot of legal people around. Amazingly complex and talky compared to modern TV. There was a lot of sophisticated TV back in the day, it's worth checking out. However most people are allergic to B&W and more's the pity, because there's a huge backlog of good cinema from the old days, too.

    Replies: @syonredux, @iSteveFan

    As for as I’m concerned, Have Gun-Will Travel is the greatest TV Western of all time

    • Agree: SPMoore8, PiltdownMan
  110. Ot but a bombing in Afghanistan at the Nepali embassy killed 22.

    Hindus and Sihks as well as Shia have been engaging in a mass exodus for a while now. Shortly it will be 100% Sunni.

  111. @Dennis Dale
    Here's the thing about "the Talk": I recall it being customary in my white working class milieu in the Seventies/Eighties, and, typical for So Cal, focused on successfully negotiating the traffic stop. Keep your hands on the wheel where the cop can see them as he approaches, don't fish around for your wallet so all he sees is a guy reaching for something, etc.

    Replies: @JsP, @Tex, @dr kill

    I got the same talk about reaching for stuff on a stop from the guy teaching my firearms training when I worked as an armed guard. Besides me the group included two girls (one white, one black) and an ex-cop (white). This was back in the ’80s.

  112. @SPMoore8
    @Mr. Anon

    I'm a huge fan of "Perry Mason"; grew up with it in a family with a lot of legal people around. Amazingly complex and talky compared to modern TV. There was a lot of sophisticated TV back in the day, it's worth checking out. However most people are allergic to B&W and more's the pity, because there's a huge backlog of good cinema from the old days, too.

    Replies: @syonredux, @iSteveFan

    You need to watch MeTV

  113. @JsP
    @Dennis Dale

    As a white non-criminal I can say that my experience with cops is that they've been assholes to me. Big time. And I'm certainly aware (verging on paranoid) that I need to keep my hands on the wheel, treat them with "respect" (ie like a prisoner treats his sadistic captor), etc.

    So I have to give black guys a pass on part of this--thinking cops are treating them like shit.

    If society said that cops were biased against middle class white guys with nice cars and no criminal record that would comport with my personal experience perfectly.

    So what is a black guy supposed to believe when he's told black guys, innocent or not, get treated like criminals while white guys like me are supposedly treated like brothers in arms, greeted with a smile and an apology? It fits their experience precisely.

    That's one of the dangers of bs narratives--you tell someone it's an elephant and they see something that looks like an elephants tail, so what are they going to believe?

    Replies: @Psmith, @Gutenberg, @V Vega, @SPMoore8, @mts1

    That’s a great point, I never thought of it like that.

  114. So the Supreme Court is apolitical, eh? I’m glad TWL (The Wise Latina) had an opportunity to expose her pop culture influenced legal opinions with the world. It should be illuminating to those who take the time to pay attention.

  115. @syonredux
    @SPMoore8

    RE: Sotomayor's struggles with English,


    Judge Sonia Sotomayor said in a 1996 speech at Princeton University’s Third World Center (now called the Carl A. Fields Center) that when she arrived at Princeton in 1972 as her high school’s valedictorian, “I found out that my Latina background had created difficulties in my writing that I needed to overcome. For example, in Spanish we do not have adjectives. A noun is described with a preposition…. My writing was stilted and overly complicated, my grammar and vocabulary skills weak.”
     
    You know, I don't even speak Spanish, but....

    libro rojo

    red book

    pluma roja

    red pen

    libros rojos

    red books

    plumas rojas

    red pens

    Maybe Sonia is semi-literate in two languages?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Josh, @artichoke, @Hibernian

    She has the wisdom of her experiences. Those experiences include illiteracy and, arguably, stupidity. We need that represented on the Court!

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @artichoke


    She has the wisdom of her experiences. Those experiences include illiteracy and, arguably, stupidity. We need that represented on the Court!
     
    In response to charges that Harrold Carswell (whom Nixon nominated for the Supreme Court) was "mediocre", U.S. Senator Roman Hruska, a Nebraska Republican, stated:

    "Even if he were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren't they, and a little chance? We can't have all Brandeises, Frankfurters, and Cardozos."

    Instead, we got Blackmun and his emanations from penumbras.

    Replies: @Forbes

  116. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Jefferson

    Don't you get it? In the minds of most liberals this was not a Muslim terrorist attack. The idea that Muslims are often violent homophobes is one that liberals just refuse to accept. Too much cognitive dissonance. Liberals will agree that Muslim terrorists methods are wrong, but usually still try to justify the rationale behind the attack - it's a response to colonialism, CharlieHebdo went too far, "blowback", etc. Here we just have pure Muslim hatred of Western decadence, i.e. liberalism. Hence, the Orlando attack has to blamed on something else, such as "toxic masculinity" or guns.

    At the same time, the fact that Mateen targeted mostly gay latinos probably does mean the typical working class straight white swing voter may not take the attack as personally and was more likely to see Trump's response as a little self-centered and tone deaf. If Mateen had killed 50 white Christians while praying you would have seen Trump's numbers rise.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Nico, @Jefferson, @Perplexed

    If Mateen had killed 50 white Christians while praying you would have seen Trump’s numbers rise.

    In the Middle East they do in fact do that regularly nowadays, but the occasional black baby mowed down by the cop he’s roughing up just fits better with the narrative.

  117. OT: Thanks to whoever recommended S, C Gywnne’s Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches. It was excellent. My local library had it; one of the advantages of paying $8k+ in property taxes each year.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Jim Don Bob

    Jim Don Bob, I accept your thanks. Our library has a used bookstore, my copy cost me fifty cents. I picked it up before my trip to Longboat Key and read it every where but in the pool. Some nasty ass people around in the old west, whites and Comanches, but a compelling read. Thank you my friend.

    , @2Mintzin1
    @Jim Don Bob

    A very fine book, although hard to read at times because of the subject matter (in part, the savagery of the Comanche culture)...I was surprised that the author was able to get it published, given the current PC climate.

    Do not hold your breath waiting for the movie.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    , @2Mintzin1
    @Jim Don Bob

    "The Son" is also worth reading, although distressing, for the same reasons as "Empire of the August Moon."

  118. @Jean Cocteausten
    This business about "the talk" is unintentionally revealing of the parenting attitudes of some minorities. My parents never explicitly told me to be deferential to the cops, not because of white privilege, but because it was literally unthinkable that I would act otherwise. If you have to sit your 16-year-old down and say, "Look, son, if the cops approach you, don't run, yell, ball up your fists..." you've probably already bungled things beyond saving. I imagine there are many black families who would agree with this and who are put off by this idea that black kids have to have this spelled out to them.

    Replies: @dr kill, @Jeremiahjohnbalaya, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff77450

    Jean, Properly given, by a caring black parent, the “Talk”would be: ” When you see two or more brothers approaching you or one bro with a gun, run like your ass is on fire. And run serpentine with your head down. If you see a cop run toward him screaming for help. Otherwise kid, you’re on your own. Now run and get me a pack of menthols.”

  119. @Jefferson
    Hildabeast is projected to win Utah. Why are so many Utah Mormons offended by Donald Trump's comments on Muslims? Do Mormons see themselves as an oppressed religious minority and see Donald Trump as the big bad racist Protestant?

    Replies: @Ed, @e, @Jack Hanson, @Hibernian, @Percy Gryce, @HA

    The Donald has been calling Mitt “a loser” for a long time. Capisce?

  120. @Steve Sailer
    Teh-Genius Coates is good, too.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Buffalo Joe

    Steve, Shows what a lean source of black references Sotomayor has when she quotes Teh Genius Coates , James Baldwin and W.E.B. DuBois in a legal ruling. There were no pertinent quotes from James Brown, or Little Richard or more currently Lil Wayne? And seeing she is Latino, no Latino sources? Thurgood Marshall would cry with shame.

  121. @Ed
    @27 year old

    Naw they're legit. He's being massacred in the media. For example Morning Joe has started off his show in the last two weeks on some variation of an anti-Trump crusade. These assaults on Trump in the media hurt him with women, in particular white women, who want to be viewed on being on the good side.

    The polls show Trump doing well with white men but not well with white women. Thus he's behind. Ironically he's matching Romney with non-whites. If Trump loses it'll be because white women put their own narcissism over their children's futures. Well the ones that have kids' atleast.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @RadicalCenter, @AnotherDad

    Almost EVERY white woman of our acquaintance who has children, supports Trump or leans Trump. Old and young, in many different States around the country, family and friends.

    By contrast, women of our acquaintance who never had children are either steady Dems virulently opposed to Trump and voting for Shrillary (my two childless lawyer friends in NJ and NYC) or non-Dems who are nonetheless going to vote third-party because Trump is so “racist” and “meanspirited” (my sister, my wife’s sister, and others).

    My reaction, at least the part that can be printed, to “women” like this is: If you don’t give a damn about perpetuating your own family, fine, but we care about ours. And we care about our NATION, too, which has nothing to do with the government. At least stop supporting people who are intentionally making it impossible to raise our children in a civilized, safe, productive, high-trust, prosperous, intelligent, English-speaking culture.

    Nah, what I mean is: look, you weird selfish barren bitches, stop f—- up the country for normal people who have children and are actually working to raise the next generation right.

    • Replies: @AP
    @RadicalCenter


    Almost EVERY white woman of our acquaintance who has children, supports Trump or leans Trump. Old and young, in many different States around the country, family and friends.
     
    I can swap anecdotes. Thinking about this, I realize that I know very few women who don't have kids (at least, well enough to know whom they are voting for). I have a female ethnic Russian friend, childless, who is voting Trump. I know a childless Jewish woman who is voting Hillary. Neither one is mean-spirited. That's about it. As for people with kids - I know many many Northeastern "Belmont" wives with kids who are voting Hillary. Our neighborhood school parking lot is full of Volvos, Lexuses and Mercedes Benzes with Hillary or Bernie stickers. Ethnic Russian friends in California (Russian "liberals", so kind of like neocons rather than like American liberals) with kids were set to vote for any Republican other than Trump, and are saying they'll vote libertarian. A few Russian Jewish friends with kids, who hated Trump during the primaries, nevertheless are leaning towards him in the general election. Several Midwesterners with kids are voting Trump, but one couple have been pro-Hillary from the start (the wife is one of those devout Catholic dissident/liberal-feminist types). A friend who is a conservative Catholic seems to be sitting this one out.

    So my useless anecdotal evidence doesn't support a trend of childlessness = voting for Hillary. Among the people I know, it's mostly about ethnicity (Russian or Russian-Jewish ethnics, childless or no, lean Trump with no particular enthusiasm, WASPs and American Jews support Hillary), career, and geography.
  122. @Dr. X
    @Ed

    Thomas was undoubtedly a product of affirmative action, but I have to hand it to the guy, he turned out to be a brilliant constitutional originalist.

    He (barely) slipped through the cracks, though. After that Anita Hill BS he was confirmed by a 52-48 vote. Ted Kennedy, who killed a girl while drunk, voted against him as "unfit."

    Affirmative action picks are supposed to do the bidding of their white liberal masters. That's why the Dems went after Thomas so hard -- they knew he wouldn't play the game on their terms, and they turned out to be right.

    Thomas is a white man in black skin. I wish we had a few more like him.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Clarence Thomas appears to be simply a DECENT man in black skin. That is good enough for me.

  123. @cwhatfuture
    This section of the dissent is absurdly unnecessary and it looks like Sotomayor, or more likely her law clerk, had written it out for some other reason and simply could not wait to put it in an opinion, despite the fact that there is no connection between the actual case and these words. I note that the other dissenters did not join in this section; Kagan wrote her own dissent which is far more nuanced, and Ginsburg excluded herself from this section of Sotomayor's opinion. Even those two liberals were probably embarrassed by this outburst. I also note the petulant "I dissent" and not the normal "I respectfully dissent". Sotomayor looks very foolish.

    Having said that, I agree with the dissent on policy grounds (I do not know the jurisprudence). I don't think the police should be able to stop someone without cause and justify it by the presence of a warrant they knew nothing about when they made the stop.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Olorin, @Psmith, @Buffalo Joe

    Cwhat, Perfect catch, a law clerk ( maybe Sotomayor should still be clerking), awaiting a chance to slip this drivel into a dissent, and Sotomayor, the wise Latina, says sure why not. The other two liberal women, cringe and back away.

  124. WJ says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    @Ed

    Back in the beginning of the R primary, I wrote on iSteve that the media could defeat Trump by reporting about him instead of reporting his words and reporting that he was failing instead of that he was a surprise success. Looks like they figured it out.

    Hillary is getting a bump now with her "first woman candidate" news, and the negative attacks haven't started yet. So, it's not too late, but it is not looking good right now. Trump mainstreamed himself in the wrong way. He needed to show more depth of knowledge and thought and to lay off personal attacks. Instead, he's changed his haircut and asked the GOP for money.

    The current popularity slump started with his comments on Curiel. That was stupid. Trump U was a big problem because Trump was actually scamming people out of their savings. Distraction was a good idea but not the way he did it.

    Replies: @Difference maker, @WJ

    Regarding Trump U, Trump forgot what he already knew – blow it off, ignore because nobody cares. Nobody cared when he insulted “war hero” McCain, nobody cared when he called (some) Mexicans racist, nobody really cared when he called the Mexican judge out for what he is. Nobody cares, they will evaluate based on other information or feeling. Keep being Trump and never, ever apologize.

    When people tell me he is finished because of this dirt I just remind them of HRC and security lapses that would have an ordinary person imprisoned or her speeches for 250 g each or her ugly ,ugly history in the 1990s. Nobody cares. She is the teflon candidate. Trump is like that also.

    • Replies: @Connecticut Famer
    @WJ

    Whatever happened with the $100K she made in cattle futures at a time when virtually every expert in the field concluded that to do so would've required insider information--which, if memory serves, is a felony. Then again, it's HRC we're talking about.

    Replies: @Forbes, @Jim Don Bob

  125. @Oscar
    Any honest arbiter of justice would have also cited Mr. Derbyshire's "The Talk: Non-Black Version" as a counterpoint.

    Replies: @Jeff77450

    Good point. If NAMs are disproportionately scrutinized by the police it’s because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime. Proof is at the FBI website.

  126. @JsP
    @Dennis Dale

    As a white non-criminal I can say that my experience with cops is that they've been assholes to me. Big time. And I'm certainly aware (verging on paranoid) that I need to keep my hands on the wheel, treat them with "respect" (ie like a prisoner treats his sadistic captor), etc.

    So I have to give black guys a pass on part of this--thinking cops are treating them like shit.

    If society said that cops were biased against middle class white guys with nice cars and no criminal record that would comport with my personal experience perfectly.

    So what is a black guy supposed to believe when he's told black guys, innocent or not, get treated like criminals while white guys like me are supposedly treated like brothers in arms, greeted with a smile and an apology? It fits their experience precisely.

    That's one of the dangers of bs narratives--you tell someone it's an elephant and they see something that looks like an elephants tail, so what are they going to believe?

    Replies: @Psmith, @Gutenberg, @V Vega, @SPMoore8, @mts1

    That’s one of the dangers of bs narratives–you tell someone it’s an elephant and they see something that looks like an elephants tail, so what are they going to believe?

    I guess that would significantly depend on your ethnic group’s collective IQ. Since IQ tests are based on pattern recognition, society can’t have a collective shorthand to function amongst themselves if a significant number can’t even detect what the shorthand is based on.

    This is why blacks with Section 8 vouchers who are ushered in to middle-class white communities ultimately destroy those communities.

    See “Detroit.”

  127. @Jean Cocteausten
    This business about "the talk" is unintentionally revealing of the parenting attitudes of some minorities. My parents never explicitly told me to be deferential to the cops, not because of white privilege, but because it was literally unthinkable that I would act otherwise. If you have to sit your 16-year-old down and say, "Look, son, if the cops approach you, don't run, yell, ball up your fists..." you've probably already bungled things beyond saving. I imagine there are many black families who would agree with this and who are put off by this idea that black kids have to have this spelled out to them.

    Replies: @dr kill, @Jeremiahjohnbalaya, @Buffalo Joe, @Jeff77450

    Very well said.

  128. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Jefferson

    Don't you get it? In the minds of most liberals this was not a Muslim terrorist attack. The idea that Muslims are often violent homophobes is one that liberals just refuse to accept. Too much cognitive dissonance. Liberals will agree that Muslim terrorists methods are wrong, but usually still try to justify the rationale behind the attack - it's a response to colonialism, CharlieHebdo went too far, "blowback", etc. Here we just have pure Muslim hatred of Western decadence, i.e. liberalism. Hence, the Orlando attack has to blamed on something else, such as "toxic masculinity" or guns.

    At the same time, the fact that Mateen targeted mostly gay latinos probably does mean the typical working class straight white swing voter may not take the attack as personally and was more likely to see Trump's response as a little self-centered and tone deaf. If Mateen had killed 50 white Christians while praying you would have seen Trump's numbers rise.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Nico, @Jefferson, @Perplexed

    “At the same time, the fact that Mateen targeted mostly gay latinos probably does mean the typical working class straight white swing voter may not take the attack as personally and was more likely to see Trump’s response as a little self-centered and tone deaf.”

    Why would White working class voters who hates Gays vote for Hildabeast? Do they believe Hildabeast will abolish Gay marriage and make Gay pride parades illegal if she becomes POTUS?

    Hildabeast is probably going to put at least one Homosexual in The Supreme Court. Her cabinet is going to have a disproportional number of Homosexuals as well.

  129. Always keep your hands where they can be seen. Do not even think about talking back to a stranger.

    This pisses me off to no end. My father, a christian and grocery store manager, always taught me and my siblings the same things (we’re as white as they come). Any time unaccompanied minors walk into department stores then run, talk back to strangers, or are acting strange with their hands in their pockets they are immediately suspected of shoplifting no matter what their color is.

  130. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/06/20/lgbt-gun-rights-group-sees-membership-skyrocket-after-orlando-shooting/86147114/

    Pink Pistols has 35 active chapters across the U.S., and nationally, its Facebook membership has increased from 1,500 before the shooting to about 6,500 as of Monday afternoon, spokeswoman Gwendolyn Patton said. That hike has encouraged some and worried others.

    Hussein said “shoot back” defies “common sense,” but I guess a few thousand homosexuals think differently.

  131. At what point does this little talk all black & brown parents have been giving their playful scamps for generations start to have any effect whatso-fuckin’-ever?

  132. @candid_observer
    Way OT, but I just saw a video of a speech made by Stephen Miller introducing Trump that was pretty remarkable in its clarity and power. (I generally hate listening to speeches, but this one easily kept my full attention.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05LujCtelSM

    I of course wish Trump himself possessed the same level of focus and sharpness in his speeches, but you get what you get. Obviously nobody would be listening to Stephen Miller if there were no Donald Trump.

    Replies: @Jus' Sayin'...

    You’re absolutely right. This is a great speech.

  133. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Jefferson

    Don't you get it? In the minds of most liberals this was not a Muslim terrorist attack. The idea that Muslims are often violent homophobes is one that liberals just refuse to accept. Too much cognitive dissonance. Liberals will agree that Muslim terrorists methods are wrong, but usually still try to justify the rationale behind the attack - it's a response to colonialism, CharlieHebdo went too far, "blowback", etc. Here we just have pure Muslim hatred of Western decadence, i.e. liberalism. Hence, the Orlando attack has to blamed on something else, such as "toxic masculinity" or guns.

    At the same time, the fact that Mateen targeted mostly gay latinos probably does mean the typical working class straight white swing voter may not take the attack as personally and was more likely to see Trump's response as a little self-centered and tone deaf. If Mateen had killed 50 white Christians while praying you would have seen Trump's numbers rise.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Nico, @Jefferson, @Perplexed

    The Mateens reconnoitered a Disney property but decided they couldn’t pull it off.

  134. @Jack Hanson
    @Jefferson

    As a Phoenician, at least two of those people died because they were too stupid to heed the words of "120 degree heat" and went for a hike or bike ride.

    For some reason people get absolutely obsessive regarding hiking some of the mountains around here everyday. You run into 60 year olds who brag about running Camelback Mountain everyday for four years and then die of heat stroke. One of the fatalities was a 28 year old female fitness instructor.

    Arizona already has a stupid motorist law, but they're beginning to talk about a stupid hiker law for the people who go out and get in trouble during a heat wave cause they want to hike 4 miles with a liter bottle of water.

    Replies: @MC, @Anonymous

    I’ve done Squaw Peak in 115 degrees or so. It’s strangely therapeutic. But I would hike slowly and take a backpack full of at least one gallon of water and snacks.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @MC


    In the book Medicine for Mountaineering:
    "Staggering quantities of water must be consumed to replace
    perspiration losses in desert conditions. In 1964, during U.S.
    Army maneuvers in the deserts of southern California, where
    daytime temperatures of 100 F to 110 F were expected,
    participants were required to drink eight quarts of water every
    day.
    Not a single case of heat illlness occurred, which was
    considered almost miraculous at the time. Each Israeli soldier
    operating in the Sinai Desert during the 1967 war with Egypt was
    allotted ten liters of water a day. No heat illness, which is
    punished by court martial in that army, occurred amoung the
    Israelis; but the Egyptians, who recieved only three liters of
    water each per day, suffered may fatalities due to heat illness.
    Thirst alone does not ensure an adequate fluid intake.
    Individuals must make a conscious effort to consume the
    quantities needed......"
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @PiltdownMan

  135. @JsP
    @Dennis Dale

    As a white non-criminal I can say that my experience with cops is that they've been assholes to me. Big time. And I'm certainly aware (verging on paranoid) that I need to keep my hands on the wheel, treat them with "respect" (ie like a prisoner treats his sadistic captor), etc.

    So I have to give black guys a pass on part of this--thinking cops are treating them like shit.

    If society said that cops were biased against middle class white guys with nice cars and no criminal record that would comport with my personal experience perfectly.

    So what is a black guy supposed to believe when he's told black guys, innocent or not, get treated like criminals while white guys like me are supposedly treated like brothers in arms, greeted with a smile and an apology? It fits their experience precisely.

    That's one of the dangers of bs narratives--you tell someone it's an elephant and they see something that looks like an elephants tail, so what are they going to believe?

    Replies: @Psmith, @Gutenberg, @V Vega, @SPMoore8, @mts1

    The reason most cops act like jerks is because basically they are vulnerable and they want to be in control of the situation and not have anyone question their authority. And they pretty much treat everyone the same way.

    As cops get older and more experienced they start to get better cues about the people they are dealing with and that’s where you get the more laid back type cops, once they have you typed as OK. I would bet that 90% of the needless shootings by cops are by guys or gals who haven’t been doing it long enough to feel secure in what they are doing.

    For this reason the best way to deal with a police officer is to let him know he is in charge. Call him officer or sir, keep your hands in plain sight, bow your head, comply with commands, no sudden movements, engage in non-hostile dialog. That can change the interaction right there. Even if you have a point however it’s advisable not to talk too much during a stop. They can’t process all of that when they are trying to process you and the environment, and if they get overloaded they will get a threat feeling and turn into a jerk again.

    I know most of the local cops where I live so I never have a problem with them. Out of state, if I see an officer doing something I will approach slowly, call him officer, and ask if he needs assistance. Never any problem there, either.

    You are right that if black kids are always “taught” that the cops are out to get them they are likely to go into any stop by a police officer with a big chip on their shoulder. And that can get bad really quick.

  136. @MC
    @Jack Hanson

    I've done Squaw Peak in 115 degrees or so. It's strangely therapeutic. But I would hike slowly and take a backpack full of at least one gallon of water and snacks.

    Replies: @syonredux

    In the book Medicine for Mountaineering:
    “Staggering quantities of water must be consumed to replace
    perspiration losses in desert conditions. In 1964, during U.S.
    Army maneuvers in the deserts of southern California, where
    daytime temperatures of 100 F to 110 F were expected,
    participants were required to drink eight quarts of water every
    day.
    Not a single case of heat illlness occurred, which was
    considered almost miraculous at the time. Each Israeli soldier
    operating in the Sinai Desert during the 1967 war with Egypt was
    allotted ten liters of water a day. No heat illness, which is
    punished by court martial in that army, occurred amoung the
    Israelis; but the Egyptians, who recieved only three liters of
    water each per day, suffered may fatalities due to heat illness.
    Thirst alone does not ensure an adequate fluid intake.
    Individuals must make a conscious effort to consume the
    quantities needed……”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @syonredux

    My guess is that the Gulf War of 1991 marked an inflection point upward in Americans on the homefront consuming massive numbers of disposable plastic water bottles. I hadn't really paid attention to disposable water bottles, but they were omnipresent on CNN during the desert war as the military took hydrating very seriously.

    Replies: @anonymous, @syonredux

    , @PiltdownMan
    @syonredux

    I've been outdoor in 115 degree dry heat, walking 3-5 miles outdoors without benefit of air-conditioning for several hours a day. I'd drink 5-6 quarts and not even notice it. The dehydration sneaks up on you when it is bone dry and blazing hot, since sweat evaporates quite rapidly and you don't feel as sticky as in less hot, but more humid, weather. The mistake newbie outdoorsy types often make, aside from poor choice of clothing, is to shy away from carrying that much weight of water if they are going to be away from sources of drinking water.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  137. @Big Bill
    @Jefferson

    Driving a motorcycle in Phoenix this time of year is like driving into a blast furnace or a giant blow dryer.

    I had to wait until after midnight to leave Phoenix on the interstate headed east ... and it was STILL in the mid 90s.

    Everyone parking outside put a towel on their steering wheel so their hands don't get burned when they get back inside and drive away.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Big Bill, I drove a Mercedes 500 series out to Phoenix for a friend. I thought the outside temp gauge was broken as it registered 120 degrees. You can not catch your breath and black top is hotter than the air temp. I never left the hotel except to catch a cab to the airport and home. It may not be Hell, but you can see it from Phoenix.

  138. @Kylie
    @SPMoore8

    "These Sotomayor footnotes are so vague they are a joke."

    They are indeed. And I'd be laughing if she were sitting on the high court of some other country.

    "Why doesn’t she just say whatever she wants, and then footnote reference the 11th Edition of the Encyclopedia Brittanica, with copious Ibid.s thereafter?"

    Are you sure this wise Latina actually knows what "Ibid." means?

    "Alternatively, she could cite the Nancy Drew books or the complete Perry Mason series, now, on DVD."

    Too white.

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @in the middle

    The last word attracted my attention “too white”. Then I went to see pictures of Sotomayor, and she looked ‘whiter’ than the rest of the court justices! Its is funny, when I was in Law Enforcement, I received radio calls such as “be in the look out for a dark white male” WTF! dark white male? hahaha, that was funny. or ‘African american’ why not ‘black american’ or really dark dark skin american, etc. This labeling is beyond pale.

    just a thought..

    • Replies: @dr kill
    @in the middle

    Yeah yeah yeah. I sent the summer of 2006 in Riyadh. Over 50C every day for 3 months. Top that, suckers!

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  139. @Jack Hanson
    @Jefferson

    As a Phoenician, at least two of those people died because they were too stupid to heed the words of "120 degree heat" and went for a hike or bike ride.

    For some reason people get absolutely obsessive regarding hiking some of the mountains around here everyday. You run into 60 year olds who brag about running Camelback Mountain everyday for four years and then die of heat stroke. One of the fatalities was a 28 year old female fitness instructor.

    Arizona already has a stupid motorist law, but they're beginning to talk about a stupid hiker law for the people who go out and get in trouble during a heat wave cause they want to hike 4 miles with a liter bottle of water.

    Replies: @MC, @Anonymous

    “28 year old female fitness instructor” seems to be a descriptor that comes up a lot in those articles you see everyday in places like The Daily Mail about unfortunate, preventable fatal accidents.

  140. @Jeremiahjohnbalaya
    @Jean Cocteausten

    Heck, my mom was once furious at me for not yessering a cop. If my dad had been present, I probably would have ended up in the next room ,with a brand new, body-sized hole in the wall.

    Replies: @OFWHAP

    It’s amazing how much you can defuse a tense situation with the police with a simple yes sir/no sir or a yes ma’am/no ma’am. Of course it is hard for those with low-impulse control to use this kind of behavior.

  141. @Steve Sailer
    @SnakeEyes

    Will she ever live it down?

    Live it down? "Wise Latina" will be the title of Sotomayor's biopic starring Penelope Cruz.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Buffalo Joe

    Steve, Nailed it, who can’t see the startling resemblance between Soto and Cruz, unless you can resurrect Ernest Borgnine.

  142. @415 reasons
    @27 year old

    All throughout 2012 I convinced myself the polls must be biased. It was a cute theory that explained a lot and turned out to be 100% wrong. A simpler explanation of the polls and election results is that we are rapidly approaching (or whizzed past without realizing) the point where the Democrats efforts to elect a new people have made the Democrats the permanent ruling party. Kind of like Sovier Russia but at least there you could understand what their end game was. Here the PC crazy train has no brakes.

    Replies: @candid_observer

    And how does one know that the polls are not biased? When does the ground truth ever rear its head?

    Answer: only at election time. And, how surprising, come election time, polls almost always “tighten”. It’s almost as if the class knows it can’t cheat anymore because the proctor is looking down directly over their desks.

    The point is: if, before election time, one wants to manipulate one’s poll — say, because one thinks it’s incredibly important to stop The Next Hitler — then there’s essentially nothing to stand in one’s way, except, perhaps a need not to be too ridiculous an outlier among all the other polls. But even the outlier problem gets remedied when you know everyone else is also pulling against The Next Hitler.

    One of the more ridiculous aspects of modern polling is just how far their numbers stray from each other — far, far beyond the supposed “margins of error”, which are basically jokes. If two polls have a disparity of 10 points — which they often do — and the margin of error of each is 3 pts, how likely is it that that discrepancy is due to random selection? One in a trillion maybe? So all the real error is in methodological differences. And all kinds of manipulative stuff can be buried in those “methodological differences”.

  143. @Jim Don Bob
    OT: Thanks to whoever recommended S, C Gywnne's Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches. It was excellent. My local library had it; one of the advantages of paying $8k+ in property taxes each year.

    https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Summer-Moon-Comanches-Powerful/dp/1416591060

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @2Mintzin1, @2Mintzin1

    Jim Don Bob, I accept your thanks. Our library has a used bookstore, my copy cost me fifty cents. I picked it up before my trip to Longboat Key and read it every where but in the pool. Some nasty ass people around in the old west, whites and Comanches, but a compelling read. Thank you my friend.

  144. Most justices cite cases, but Wise Latinas cite Genius Coates. No wonder Trump freaked over that judge. Can’t say as I blame him.

    If/when Nurse Ratched is elected, look for her team to scour the hinterlands for a transexual harlequin to fill Scalia’s seat.

  145. @WJ
    @Chrisnonymous

    Regarding Trump U, Trump forgot what he already knew - blow it off, ignore because nobody cares. Nobody cared when he insulted "war hero" McCain, nobody cared when he called (some) Mexicans racist, nobody really cared when he called the Mexican judge out for what he is. Nobody cares, they will evaluate based on other information or feeling. Keep being Trump and never, ever apologize.

    When people tell me he is finished because of this dirt I just remind them of HRC and security lapses that would have an ordinary person imprisoned or her speeches for 250 g each or her ugly ,ugly history in the 1990s. Nobody cares. She is the teflon candidate. Trump is like that also.

    Replies: @Connecticut Famer

    Whatever happened with the $100K she made in cattle futures at a time when virtually every expert in the field concluded that to do so would’ve required insider information–which, if memory serves, is a felony. Then again, it’s HRC we’re talking about.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Connecticut Famer

    $100 grand? Those pantsuits aren't cheap.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Connecticut Famer

    It wasn't insider trading; it was front running by her friendly broker back in the day before most orders were electronic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_running

  146. When and why did you switch from “Genius T. Coates” (which is hilarious) to “Teh Genius Coates” (which makes no sense)?

    Did I miss a memo? (I did get the one about the TPS reports. Seven copies, in fact.)

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Borachio

    The new nickname plays on an internet meme in which "the" is misspelled "teh" in the imagined cute, infantile speech of animals, especially cats.

    I admit its cleverness, but for old fogey types like us, Genius T. is definitely funnier...

    Replies: @JSM

  147. @Dennis Dale
    Here's the thing about "the Talk": I recall it being customary in my white working class milieu in the Seventies/Eighties, and, typical for So Cal, focused on successfully negotiating the traffic stop. Keep your hands on the wheel where the cop can see them as he approaches, don't fish around for your wallet so all he sees is a guy reaching for something, etc.

    Replies: @JsP, @Tex, @dr kill

    I’ve been rolling down the window and sticking both hands far out so the cop can see them before he even gets out of his cruiser.. Then when they ask for something I tell them where it’s located and that I’m now going to move one hand to retrieve it. ‘
    Laugh if you must at this old gray head, but I’ve had lots of stops and I’m still not dead.’

  148. @Ed
    @Jefferson

    She's not going to win Utah. It might be closer than expected though.

    Replies: @dr kill

    They say that black female incumbent rep is in trouble currently. Mia Love I think

  149. @Shouting Thomas
    I've lived in black neighborhoods in Brooklyn and Jersey City.

    What young black men actually do is deliberately taunt the police and threaten them.

    Somebody must be forgetting to give them "the Talk."

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Bill

    Exactly. “The talk” narrative is so utterly delusional, so completely disconnected from reality, that it is hard to believe anyone buys it. But you have to remind yourself that the target audience is the significant minority (or is it a majority now) of white people who have no significant experience with real black people.

  150. @in the middle
    @Kylie

    The last word attracted my attention "too white". Then I went to see pictures of Sotomayor, and she looked 'whiter' than the rest of the court justices! Its is funny, when I was in Law Enforcement, I received radio calls such as "be in the look out for a dark white male" WTF! dark white male? hahaha, that was funny. or 'African american' why not 'black american' or really dark dark skin american, etc. This labeling is beyond pale.

    just a thought..

    Replies: @dr kill

    Yeah yeah yeah. I sent the summer of 2006 in Riyadh. Over 50C every day for 3 months. Top that, suckers!

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @dr kill

    Thank you for your service to our country.

    Replies: @dr kill

  151. @JsP
    @Dennis Dale

    As a white non-criminal I can say that my experience with cops is that they've been assholes to me. Big time. And I'm certainly aware (verging on paranoid) that I need to keep my hands on the wheel, treat them with "respect" (ie like a prisoner treats his sadistic captor), etc.

    So I have to give black guys a pass on part of this--thinking cops are treating them like shit.

    If society said that cops were biased against middle class white guys with nice cars and no criminal record that would comport with my personal experience perfectly.

    So what is a black guy supposed to believe when he's told black guys, innocent or not, get treated like criminals while white guys like me are supposedly treated like brothers in arms, greeted with a smile and an apology? It fits their experience precisely.

    That's one of the dangers of bs narratives--you tell someone it's an elephant and they see something that looks like an elephants tail, so what are they going to believe?

    Replies: @Psmith, @Gutenberg, @V Vega, @SPMoore8, @mts1

    I never got “the talk” in one sitting, but had a father who more effectively dropped his pearls of wisdom along the way. Upon seeing a guy in an overcoat in July, “anyone wearing that much coat in summer is crazy, carrying a sawed-off, most likely both.” Entering an eatery, “never sit up front, sit further back, along the wall if possible, to view the whole room. Know all your exits. Someone looks all antsy before walking in, be ready to book.” “Never go to a bar where you know no one, good way to get your self beat or at the least robbed, at least overcharged by the bartender. Only go with someone known there.” “Going to a ball game or concert with your buddies? What if they ditch you? Pin $100 in your shorts and you can hail a cab home or put up in a hotel for the night and phone for a ride in the morning.”

    Cops? Assume bad and corrupt until they prove otherwise. They all have one name: Officer. Some are jerks out of the fun of it, others because they’re as scared as you. The street is no place to dispute a ticket. Court is, and find a lawyer as crooked as the judge.

    He didn’t push the stupid people in stupid places doing stupid things, or nothing good happens after 10 p.m. memes, just never get under the influence in strange places so you can keep your wits sharp and cut out when the going gets weird and the weird turn pro (again, the $100 Get out of Dodge money in your undies for the cab to the Holiday Inn). And when walking through ghettoes, stand tall and look everyone in the eye. They’ll think you’re a cop, nuts, or both, and not horse with you.

    • Agree: SPMoore8, Jim Don Bob
  152. @anonymous
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Aren't "blowback" and "Muslim terrorist attack" consistent explanations?

    I'm anything but a "liberal" as the term has come to be understood. You and I likely agree on gun control and many other issues that are being raised and crusades that are being furthered in the wake of this event.

    But I doubt that this horror would have happened without Uncle Sam killing many innocent people, disproportionately Muslims, in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Serbia, etc., for the last 20+ years. That's what the shooter reportedly said, which may explain the slow drag concerning release of his several calls to 911.

    In the meantime, what qualifies you or anyone else to say, "Here we just have pure Muslim hatred of Western decadence, i.e. liberalism"? That's what you want to believe, but it seems that in that regard you're afflicted with "cognitive dissonance," too.

    Replies: @Bill

    Serbia? We killed Orthodox Christians in Serbia and then helped Muslims ethnically cleanse them. Is there some crazy Muslim sub-cultural fantasy that we weren’t on their side in Serbia?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Bill

    Please review my comment: "... without Uncle Sam killing many innocent people, disproportionately Muslims, ..."

    Do you dispute what I actually said?

    Replies: @Bill

  153. Jack Hanson says:

    I see my comment about the doom masturbators didn’t pass Steve’s fainting test because it pointed out that weighted polls aren’t honest. I figured I shouldn’t have to point out the media lies to people constantly waiting to polish their wit against “tiny duck”, but the shekels won’t flow to Steve if we’re not all doomed.

  154. OT: From February, A Stranger gives $1,000,000 to put kids through college. http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/10/pf/college/free-college-kindergarten/index.html

    Has anyone seen any studies or follow up research on these pledges? It seems to me there have been enough over the past few decades to draw some conclusion.

  155. Jack Hanson says:
    @Jefferson
    Hildabeast is projected to win Utah. Why are so many Utah Mormons offended by Donald Trump's comments on Muslims? Do Mormons see themselves as an oppressed religious minority and see Donald Trump as the big bad racist Protestant?

    Replies: @Ed, @e, @Jack Hanson, @Hibernian, @Percy Gryce, @HA

    It also shows her ahead in Arizona. Ahead. In. Arizona.

    If there was a poll stating that the sun goes down at noon, some people here would be looking at their window at 12 going “But that’s unpossible!” at all the daylight.

    Basically the polls have been proven to be unreliable throughout this thing, the media is a bunch of whores, but some of you have to get your masochist kicks declaring how we’re all doomed and the polls don’t lie.

    • Agree: Forbes
  156. @syonredux
    @SPMoore8

    RE: Sotomayor's struggles with English,


    Judge Sonia Sotomayor said in a 1996 speech at Princeton University’s Third World Center (now called the Carl A. Fields Center) that when she arrived at Princeton in 1972 as her high school’s valedictorian, “I found out that my Latina background had created difficulties in my writing that I needed to overcome. For example, in Spanish we do not have adjectives. A noun is described with a preposition…. My writing was stilted and overly complicated, my grammar and vocabulary skills weak.”
     
    You know, I don't even speak Spanish, but....

    libro rojo

    red book

    pluma roja

    red pen

    libros rojos

    red books

    plumas rojas

    red pens

    Maybe Sonia is semi-literate in two languages?

    Replies: @SPMoore8, @Josh, @artichoke, @Hibernian

    I think in Spanish a prepositional phrase may be used for the possessive where that’s not the case in English, i.e. “El libro de Maria” vs. “Mary’s book.” I vaguely recall prepositional phrases standing in for adjectives in other instances, but I don’t remember the particulars. That being said, her way of describing what I just mentioned, if in fact that’s what she’s describing, is more than a little disappointing for an Ivy League educated Associate Justice of SCOTUS. Functional illiteracy in 2 languages is only a slight exaggeration.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Hibernian


    I think in Spanish a prepositional phrase may be used for the possessive where that’s not the case in English, i.e. “El libro de Maria” vs. “Mary’s book.” I vaguely recall prepositional phrases standing in for adjectives in other instances, but I don’t remember the particulars. That being said, her way of describing what I just mentioned, if in fact that’s what she’s describing, is more than a little disappointing for an Ivy League educated Associate Justice of SCOTUS. Functional illiteracy in 2 languages is only a slight exaggeration.
     
    Sure. The problem is that Sonia Sotomayor doesn't seem to understand how something as simple as "gato negro" works. That's a simple adjectival construction in Spanish, with no prepositions.
  157. @Borachio
    When and why did you switch from "Genius T. Coates" (which is hilarious) to "Teh Genius Coates" (which makes no sense)?

    Did I miss a memo? (I did get the one about the TPS reports. Seven copies, in fact.)

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    The new nickname plays on an internet meme in which “the” is misspelled “teh” in the imagined cute, infantile speech of animals, especially cats.

    I admit its cleverness, but for old fogey types like us, Genius T. is definitely funnier…

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @JSM
    @Chrisnonymous

    Right. Sorta reminds of Ernest T., the crazy old coot on the old Andy Griffith show. (Catchphrase: "You ain't heard the las' of ol' Ernest T. Bass!)

    Barney Fife: "He's a nut!"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_T._Bass

  158. @Bill
    @anonymous

    Serbia? We killed Orthodox Christians in Serbia and then helped Muslims ethnically cleanse them. Is there some crazy Muslim sub-cultural fantasy that we weren't on their side in Serbia?

    Replies: @anonymous

    Please review my comment: “… without Uncle Sam killing many innocent people, disproportionately Muslims, …”

    Do you dispute what I actually said?

    • Replies: @Bill
    @anonymous

    Yes, I dispute what you actually said, which was "Uncle Sam kill[ed] many innocent people, disproportionately Muslims, in . . . Serbia,"

    I suppose you are going to tell me that the ellipsis changes the meaning. You meant what? That the percentage of people we've murdered since, say, 1992 who are Muslim is higher than the percentage of Muslims in the overall world population? That's certainly true.

    Replies: @anonymous

  159. @Jefferson
    Hildabeast is projected to win Utah. Why are so many Utah Mormons offended by Donald Trump's comments on Muslims? Do Mormons see themselves as an oppressed religious minority and see Donald Trump as the big bad racist Protestant?

    Replies: @Ed, @e, @Jack Hanson, @Hibernian, @Percy Gryce, @HA

    Gary Johnson has established his headquarters in Salt Lake City. Hilary may be in for a surprise.

    The Donald had real trouble in Mormon areas during the primaries and caucuses.

  160. @Intelligent Dasein
    Why didn't she just cite Chris Rock on "the talk"?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igQDvYOt_iA

    Replies: @anonymous

    Can anyone here explain Mr. Rock’s success? This is overlong, witless vulgarity.

  161. @iSteveFan
    OT - If you are supporting Trump please donate today. He is having a matching funds offer going on. So if you donate $50, one hundred will get contributed.

    Replies: @Jeff Albertson

    I think I found Trevor Lyman, the guy that did the money bombs for Ron Paul.
    https://www.upwork.com/mobile/freelancers/~01f7fb0a5aaa83b164

    I didn’t contact him because I know I lack the follow-through to develop and promote anything, but his contract rate of $25 per hour sounds pretty reasonable, especially if he owns the original code. Money bombs are very effective because they credit and bring the donor right into the process, but they can’t really be effective if done directly by the campaign, and if they are very successful they create their own publicity. Can you imagine collecting millions in small donations for a billionaire candidate, with no connection to the official campaign, especially if the GOP is seen to be dragging it’s feet?

    I have a lot of ideas, but no moxie; I guess I’ll just send a few digits to the official site, win or lose. I certainly don’t regret the 99 electrobux I sent to the Unz campaign. Some windmills just need tilting!

  162. @dr kill
    @in the middle

    Yeah yeah yeah. I sent the summer of 2006 in Riyadh. Over 50C every day for 3 months. Top that, suckers!

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Thank you for your service to our country.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    @Jim Don Bob

    I have been insulted many times, but to be called a Federal employee is the cruelest jibe ever. Damn you, Sir. I was employed by the Royal Family but not in any gov position.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  163. @Hibernian
    @syonredux

    I think in Spanish a prepositional phrase may be used for the possessive where that's not the case in English, i.e. "El libro de Maria" vs. "Mary's book." I vaguely recall prepositional phrases standing in for adjectives in other instances, but I don't remember the particulars. That being said, her way of describing what I just mentioned, if in fact that's what she's describing, is more than a little disappointing for an Ivy League educated Associate Justice of SCOTUS. Functional illiteracy in 2 languages is only a slight exaggeration.

    Replies: @syonredux

    I think in Spanish a prepositional phrase may be used for the possessive where that’s not the case in English, i.e. “El libro de Maria” vs. “Mary’s book.” I vaguely recall prepositional phrases standing in for adjectives in other instances, but I don’t remember the particulars. That being said, her way of describing what I just mentioned, if in fact that’s what she’s describing, is more than a little disappointing for an Ivy League educated Associate Justice of SCOTUS. Functional illiteracy in 2 languages is only a slight exaggeration.

    Sure. The problem is that Sonia Sotomayor doesn’t seem to understand how something as simple as “gato negro” works. That’s a simple adjectival construction in Spanish, with no prepositions.

  164. @Jim Don Bob
    OT: Thanks to whoever recommended S, C Gywnne's Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches. It was excellent. My local library had it; one of the advantages of paying $8k+ in property taxes each year.

    https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Summer-Moon-Comanches-Powerful/dp/1416591060

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @2Mintzin1, @2Mintzin1

    A very fine book, although hard to read at times because of the subject matter (in part, the savagery of the Comanche culture)…I was surprised that the author was able to get it published, given the current PC climate.

    Do not hold your breath waiting for the movie.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @2Mintzin1

    2Mintinz1, The book actually was a finalist for a Pulitzer Prize. A large measure of its success is the general lack of PC that we usually are fed when reading about Native Americans. The book is also well researched, footnoted and has an easy narrative style.

  165. @Jim Don Bob
    OT: Thanks to whoever recommended S, C Gywnne's Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches. It was excellent. My local library had it; one of the advantages of paying $8k+ in property taxes each year.

    https://www.amazon.com/Empire-Summer-Moon-Comanches-Powerful/dp/1416591060

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @2Mintzin1, @2Mintzin1

    “The Son” is also worth reading, although distressing, for the same reasons as “Empire of the August Moon.”

  166. @Anonymous
    The white western world is a result of the white western mind.

    Soto is an alien and her mind will ever be so.

    The world that is brought to fruition by the thinking of Soto & Coates will not be white or western. It will be a mix of Puerto Rico and Jamaica with all of that dysfunction and great absence of rule of law.

    Cities like Miami city proper (some exclusions) and Los Angeles city proper (west side excluded) are already departed from western civ. These are part of the mestizo second wave following the African first wave which took so many American cities away from our civilization.

    Replies: @Thea, @ben tillman

    The white western world is a result of the white western mind.

    Soto is an alien and her mind will ever be so.

    How is she an alien, or not white, or whatever you’re getting at?

  167. @Jefferson
    Hildabeast is projected to win Utah. Why are so many Utah Mormons offended by Donald Trump's comments on Muslims? Do Mormons see themselves as an oppressed religious minority and see Donald Trump as the big bad racist Protestant?

    Replies: @Ed, @e, @Jack Hanson, @Hibernian, @Percy Gryce, @HA

    I don’t know if this has anything to do with those poll results, but there are some affinities between Islam and Mormonism: the credibility of the entire enterprise hinges on the authority of a single prophet (Muhammad and Joseph Smith, respectively); the selective use of the Christian scriptures but the supremacy of a new revelation; polygamy was originally permitted; abstinence from alcohol is required; etc. I believe Mormonism was in the 19/c sometimes referred to as the American Islam or Joseph Smith, the American Muhammad.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @Percy Gryce

    Fundamentalist theologians still occasionally make this argument today.

    But there is a reason Islam appeals to Arabs, Indonesians, Phillipine Moros, and not generally to white Europeans, whereas Mormonism did not particularly succeed in nonwhite populations until recently.

    , @dr kill
    @Percy Gryce

    The suspension of belief required to be Mormon is from 1842. They had photographs from then, for Christ's sake. I give all the air god religion props just for being 6000, 2100, and 1400 years old. You Mormons are straight up cultists. Don't come in here and tell me I'm wrong. I READ YOUR BOOK.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

  168. @Jim Christian
    Coates is a fucking retard and so is the wise Latina. Only reason they are where they are is their race. They know it, everyone knows it. And this is what we have, retarded intellects all over the courts, schools and ruling class. Puppetheads of color doing the bad-guys' bidding. Those bastards were brilliant using the morons against us.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Coates is a fucking retard and so is the wise Latina. Only reason they are where they are is their race.

    I agree with your first sentence, but what is her race? How is she not white?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @ben tillman

    Ben, Isn't Sotomayor a member of La Raza, and doesn't that translate to The Race. So apparently she does not consider herself to be white.

    Replies: @ben tillman

  169. @artichoke
    @syonredux

    She has the wisdom of her experiences. Those experiences include illiteracy and, arguably, stupidity. We need that represented on the Court!

    Replies: @ben tillman

    She has the wisdom of her experiences. Those experiences include illiteracy and, arguably, stupidity. We need that represented on the Court!

    In response to charges that Harrold Carswell (whom Nixon nominated for the Supreme Court) was “mediocre”, U.S. Senator Roman Hruska, a Nebraska Republican, stated:

    “Even if he were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren’t they, and a little chance? We can’t have all Brandeises, Frankfurters, and Cardozos.”

    Instead, we got Blackmun and his emanations from penumbras.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @ben tillman

    "Penumbras formed by emanations" originated with Justice William O. Douglas in his USSC opinion in Griswold v Connecticut (1965), finding a privacy right in the Bill of Rights when overturning a Connecticut law regarding restrictions on the sale of birth control.

  170. @Percy Gryce
    @Jefferson

    I don't know if this has anything to do with those poll results, but there are some affinities between Islam and Mormonism: the credibility of the entire enterprise hinges on the authority of a single prophet (Muhammad and Joseph Smith, respectively); the selective use of the Christian scriptures but the supremacy of a new revelation; polygamy was originally permitted; abstinence from alcohol is required; etc. I believe Mormonism was in the 19/c sometimes referred to as the American Islam or Joseph Smith, the American Muhammad.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @dr kill

    Fundamentalist theologians still occasionally make this argument today.

    But there is a reason Islam appeals to Arabs, Indonesians, Phillipine Moros, and not generally to white Europeans, whereas Mormonism did not particularly succeed in nonwhite populations until recently.

  171. @syonredux
    @MC


    In the book Medicine for Mountaineering:
    "Staggering quantities of water must be consumed to replace
    perspiration losses in desert conditions. In 1964, during U.S.
    Army maneuvers in the deserts of southern California, where
    daytime temperatures of 100 F to 110 F were expected,
    participants were required to drink eight quarts of water every
    day.
    Not a single case of heat illlness occurred, which was
    considered almost miraculous at the time. Each Israeli soldier
    operating in the Sinai Desert during the 1967 war with Egypt was
    allotted ten liters of water a day. No heat illness, which is
    punished by court martial in that army, occurred amoung the
    Israelis; but the Egyptians, who recieved only three liters of
    water each per day, suffered may fatalities due to heat illness.
    Thirst alone does not ensure an adequate fluid intake.
    Individuals must make a conscious effort to consume the
    quantities needed......"
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @PiltdownMan

    My guess is that the Gulf War of 1991 marked an inflection point upward in Americans on the homefront consuming massive numbers of disposable plastic water bottles. I hadn’t really paid attention to disposable water bottles, but they were omnipresent on CNN during the desert war as the military took hydrating very seriously.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    Like the astronauts and Tang?

    , @syonredux
    @Steve Sailer

    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-eesabt7nuhuYJ/jarhead_2005_training_in_the_desert/

  172. @syonredux
    @MC


    In the book Medicine for Mountaineering:
    "Staggering quantities of water must be consumed to replace
    perspiration losses in desert conditions. In 1964, during U.S.
    Army maneuvers in the deserts of southern California, where
    daytime temperatures of 100 F to 110 F were expected,
    participants were required to drink eight quarts of water every
    day.
    Not a single case of heat illlness occurred, which was
    considered almost miraculous at the time. Each Israeli soldier
    operating in the Sinai Desert during the 1967 war with Egypt was
    allotted ten liters of water a day. No heat illness, which is
    punished by court martial in that army, occurred amoung the
    Israelis; but the Egyptians, who recieved only three liters of
    water each per day, suffered may fatalities due to heat illness.
    Thirst alone does not ensure an adequate fluid intake.
    Individuals must make a conscious effort to consume the
    quantities needed......"
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @PiltdownMan

    I’ve been outdoor in 115 degree dry heat, walking 3-5 miles outdoors without benefit of air-conditioning for several hours a day. I’d drink 5-6 quarts and not even notice it. The dehydration sneaks up on you when it is bone dry and blazing hot, since sweat evaporates quite rapidly and you don’t feel as sticky as in less hot, but more humid, weather. The mistake newbie outdoorsy types often make, aside from poor choice of clothing, is to shy away from carrying that much weight of water if they are going to be away from sources of drinking water.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @PiltdownMan

    I've played golf in 112 degree heat. It wears you down.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

  173. The reason most cops act like jerks is because basically they are vulnerable and they want to be in control of the situation and not have anyone question their authority. And they pretty much treat everyone the same way.

    Every contact I’ve had with the police in the last 10 years has involved professional and courteous behavior from them. It probably helps that I am polite and friendly with them. It also probably helps that the local cops are the coolest, most laid-back cops of any place I’ve ever lived in.

    And yes, the younger ones tend to be more problematic.

  174. @Steve Sailer
    @syonredux

    My guess is that the Gulf War of 1991 marked an inflection point upward in Americans on the homefront consuming massive numbers of disposable plastic water bottles. I hadn't really paid attention to disposable water bottles, but they were omnipresent on CNN during the desert war as the military took hydrating very seriously.

    Replies: @anonymous, @syonredux

    Like the astronauts and Tang?

  175. What’s it take for folks to see this guy peddles hate? A black body shooting up a Whole Foods screaming Ta-Nehisi Akbar?

  176. @Connecticut Famer
    @WJ

    Whatever happened with the $100K she made in cattle futures at a time when virtually every expert in the field concluded that to do so would've required insider information--which, if memory serves, is a felony. Then again, it's HRC we're talking about.

    Replies: @Forbes, @Jim Don Bob

    $100 grand? Those pantsuits aren’t cheap.

  177. Call me a heretic, but I stopped listening to Ta-Nehisi Tuxedo long ago; these days, you get sharper analysis out of Chumley, or Breezley Bruin.

  178. @ben tillman
    @artichoke


    She has the wisdom of her experiences. Those experiences include illiteracy and, arguably, stupidity. We need that represented on the Court!
     
    In response to charges that Harrold Carswell (whom Nixon nominated for the Supreme Court) was "mediocre", U.S. Senator Roman Hruska, a Nebraska Republican, stated:

    "Even if he were mediocre, there are a lot of mediocre judges and people and lawyers. They are entitled to a little representation, aren't they, and a little chance? We can't have all Brandeises, Frankfurters, and Cardozos."

    Instead, we got Blackmun and his emanations from penumbras.

    Replies: @Forbes

    “Penumbras formed by emanations” originated with Justice William O. Douglas in his USSC opinion in Griswold v Connecticut (1965), finding a privacy right in the Bill of Rights when overturning a Connecticut law regarding restrictions on the sale of birth control.

  179. @Steve Sailer
    @syonredux

    My guess is that the Gulf War of 1991 marked an inflection point upward in Americans on the homefront consuming massive numbers of disposable plastic water bottles. I hadn't really paid attention to disposable water bottles, but they were omnipresent on CNN during the desert war as the military took hydrating very seriously.

    Replies: @anonymous, @syonredux

  180. @Ed
    @27 year old

    Naw they're legit. He's being massacred in the media. For example Morning Joe has started off his show in the last two weeks on some variation of an anti-Trump crusade. These assaults on Trump in the media hurt him with women, in particular white women, who want to be viewed on being on the good side.

    The polls show Trump doing well with white men but not well with white women. Thus he's behind. Ironically he's matching Romney with non-whites. If Trump loses it'll be because white women put their own narcissism over their children's futures. Well the ones that have kids' atleast.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @RadicalCenter, @AnotherDad

    If Trump loses it’ll be because white women put their own narcissism over their children’s futures. Well the ones that have kids’ at least.

    Kudos Ed! You nailed it. I blather about for paragraphs and you nailed the heart of it in one sentence.

    Our ancestors made the mistake of giving women the vote. Something perhaps no republic can survive. Certainly something that no republic with the media controlled by folks hostile to the nation is likely to survive.

    If Trump is going to win, he has to cut through the noise and make this squarely about *the future*:

    “Do you want your children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren to grow up in and live as citizen owners of America–a republic, a nation? …. or merely exist as subjects of an imperial super-state that’s sort of the north American version of Brazil?

    • Replies: @JSM
    @AnotherDad

    blah blah blah.

    It was *men* who had the vote allowing the wave of mass immigration starting in the 1880s which brought a certain ethnic group of folks hostile to the nation who today by and large control the media.

    Us women folk got the vote in 1920 -- and four years later the 1924 Immigration Moratorium passed.

  181. @Ed
    Justices Sotomayor & Thomas are both beneficiaries of affirmative action at Yale Law. A school that we now know gave extreme preferences to black & presumably Puerto Rican students in the 60s & 70s.

    I guess Thomas is preferable as he had the good sense to shut up and follow Scalia's lead. What an embarrassment & a window into our horrible future ahead.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @AnotherDad

    I guess Thomas is preferable as he had the good sense to shut up and follow Scalia’s lead.

    My understanding–i’m a tech guy not a lawyer type–is Thomas in fact did *not* just follow Scalia’s lead. That’s a lefty “Uncle Clarence” stereotype. I don’t believe he voted with Scalia any more than typical for a conservative justice. He was no Scalia’s mini-me.

    My–non-lawyer, but interested layman–impression:
    — Scalia was a “plain language, plain meaning” sort of guy, with traditionalist conservative instincts
    — Thomas is more of a libertarian guy

    Thomas was the beneficiary of a very sleazy “Uncle Tom” campaign by the left. But his opinions that i read or heard described, my thought was “this guy is on my side; he wants to protect my rights as an American”. I think he’s a high quality justice.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Bill
    @AnotherDad

    The best thing about Thomas is his refusal to participate in the absurd preening competition that is oral arguments before the court.

    He doesn't seem especially bright to me, but at least he votes the right way most of the time. I don't see anything humiliating about having him on the court, though.

  182. JSM says:
    @AnotherDad
    @Ed


    If Trump loses it’ll be because white women put their own narcissism over their children’s futures. Well the ones that have kids’ at least.
     
    Kudos Ed! You nailed it. I blather about for paragraphs and you nailed the heart of it in one sentence.

    Our ancestors made the mistake of giving women the vote. Something perhaps no republic can survive. Certainly something that no republic with the media controlled by folks hostile to the nation is likely to survive.

    If Trump is going to win, he has to cut through the noise and make this squarely about *the future*:

    "Do you want your children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren to grow up in and live as citizen owners of America--a republic, a nation? .... or merely exist as subjects of an imperial super-state that's sort of the north American version of Brazil?

    Replies: @JSM

    blah blah blah.

    It was *men* who had the vote allowing the wave of mass immigration starting in the 1880s which brought a certain ethnic group of folks hostile to the nation who today by and large control the media.

    Us women folk got the vote in 1920 — and four years later the 1924 Immigration Moratorium passed.

  183. @Chrisnonymous
    @Borachio

    The new nickname plays on an internet meme in which "the" is misspelled "teh" in the imagined cute, infantile speech of animals, especially cats.

    I admit its cleverness, but for old fogey types like us, Genius T. is definitely funnier...

    Replies: @JSM

    Right. Sorta reminds of Ernest T., the crazy old coot on the old Andy Griffith show. (Catchphrase: “You ain’t heard the las’ of ol’ Ernest T. Bass!)

    Barney Fife: “He’s a nut!”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_T._Bass

  184. @anonymous
    @Bill

    Please review my comment: "... without Uncle Sam killing many innocent people, disproportionately Muslims, ..."

    Do you dispute what I actually said?

    Replies: @Bill

    Yes, I dispute what you actually said, which was “Uncle Sam kill[ed] many innocent people, disproportionately Muslims, in . . . Serbia,”

    I suppose you are going to tell me that the ellipsis changes the meaning. You meant what? That the percentage of people we’ve murdered since, say, 1992 who are Muslim is higher than the percentage of Muslims in the overall world population? That’s certainly true.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Bill

    Yes, that's what I certainly meant.

    So, what's your motivation? You seem to have expended some real time and effort to try to disprove something that, as still seems apparent to me, I didn't assert to begin with.

    Replies: @Bill

  185. @PiltdownMan
    @syonredux

    I've been outdoor in 115 degree dry heat, walking 3-5 miles outdoors without benefit of air-conditioning for several hours a day. I'd drink 5-6 quarts and not even notice it. The dehydration sneaks up on you when it is bone dry and blazing hot, since sweat evaporates quite rapidly and you don't feel as sticky as in less hot, but more humid, weather. The mistake newbie outdoorsy types often make, aside from poor choice of clothing, is to shy away from carrying that much weight of water if they are going to be away from sources of drinking water.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I’ve played golf in 112 degree heat. It wears you down.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Steve Sailer

    True.

    I see I was ambiguous in the way I phrased my comment.

    I did not mean that "I'd not even notice" the heat—I meant that I'd "not even notice" that I was drinking that much water

    When I wandered in the heat like that, I'd shower and then be wiped out for the rest of the day.

  186. @Connecticut Famer
    @WJ

    Whatever happened with the $100K she made in cattle futures at a time when virtually every expert in the field concluded that to do so would've required insider information--which, if memory serves, is a felony. Then again, it's HRC we're talking about.

    Replies: @Forbes, @Jim Don Bob

    It wasn’t insider trading; it was front running by her friendly broker back in the day before most orders were electronic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_running

  187. @2Mintzin1
    @Jim Don Bob

    A very fine book, although hard to read at times because of the subject matter (in part, the savagery of the Comanche culture)...I was surprised that the author was able to get it published, given the current PC climate.

    Do not hold your breath waiting for the movie.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    2Mintinz1, The book actually was a finalist for a Pulitzer Prize. A large measure of its success is the general lack of PC that we usually are fed when reading about Native Americans. The book is also well researched, footnoted and has an easy narrative style.

  188. @ben tillman
    @Jim Christian


    Coates is a fucking retard and so is the wise Latina. Only reason they are where they are is their race.
     
    I agree with your first sentence, but what is her race? How is she not white?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Ben, Isn’t Sotomayor a member of La Raza, and doesn’t that translate to The Race. So apparently she does not consider herself to be white.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Buffalo Joe


    Ben, Isn’t Sotomayor a member of La Raza, and doesn’t that translate to The Race. So apparently she does not consider herself to be white.
     
    Right, but why? What is her background?
  189. @Percy Gryce
    @Jefferson

    I don't know if this has anything to do with those poll results, but there are some affinities between Islam and Mormonism: the credibility of the entire enterprise hinges on the authority of a single prophet (Muhammad and Joseph Smith, respectively); the selective use of the Christian scriptures but the supremacy of a new revelation; polygamy was originally permitted; abstinence from alcohol is required; etc. I believe Mormonism was in the 19/c sometimes referred to as the American Islam or Joseph Smith, the American Muhammad.

    Replies: @Former Darfur, @dr kill

    The suspension of belief required to be Mormon is from 1842. They had photographs from then, for Christ’s sake. I give all the air god religion props just for being 6000, 2100, and 1400 years old. You Mormons are straight up cultists. Don’t come in here and tell me I’m wrong. I READ YOUR BOOK.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    @dr kill

    Ideas that, if there are living beings on other planets, wouldn't Jesus have to go there to give them a chance to be saved (keyed to the Moon Hoax of 1835), Champollion's decipherment of the Rosetta Stone (up to his death in 1832), and the discussion about the recently discovered Mound civilizations in the Americas in the 1830's, along with a few other things, were the motifs that led to the Book of Mormon.

    But that's OK. Faith is faith. If it works, it works. That's all that really matters.

  190. @Jim Don Bob
    @dr kill

    Thank you for your service to our country.

    Replies: @dr kill

    I have been insulted many times, but to be called a Federal employee is the cruelest jibe ever. Damn you, Sir. I was employed by the Royal Family but not in any gov position.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @dr kill

    My apologies.

  191. @dr kill
    @Jim Don Bob

    I have been insulted many times, but to be called a Federal employee is the cruelest jibe ever. Damn you, Sir. I was employed by the Royal Family but not in any gov position.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    My apologies.

  192. @Bill
    @anonymous

    Yes, I dispute what you actually said, which was "Uncle Sam kill[ed] many innocent people, disproportionately Muslims, in . . . Serbia,"

    I suppose you are going to tell me that the ellipsis changes the meaning. You meant what? That the percentage of people we've murdered since, say, 1992 who are Muslim is higher than the percentage of Muslims in the overall world population? That's certainly true.

    Replies: @anonymous

    Yes, that’s what I certainly meant.

    So, what’s your motivation? You seem to have expended some real time and effort to try to disprove something that, as still seems apparent to me, I didn’t assert to begin with.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @anonymous

    My motivation is love of truth. It makes me all interested in correcting false factual claims about stuff. I'm weird that way <--- not even being sarcastic here. What's yours?

    Replies: @anonymous

  193. @dr kill
    @Percy Gryce

    The suspension of belief required to be Mormon is from 1842. They had photographs from then, for Christ's sake. I give all the air god religion props just for being 6000, 2100, and 1400 years old. You Mormons are straight up cultists. Don't come in here and tell me I'm wrong. I READ YOUR BOOK.

    Replies: @SPMoore8

    Ideas that, if there are living beings on other planets, wouldn’t Jesus have to go there to give them a chance to be saved (keyed to the Moon Hoax of 1835), Champollion’s decipherment of the Rosetta Stone (up to his death in 1832), and the discussion about the recently discovered Mound civilizations in the Americas in the 1830’s, along with a few other things, were the motifs that led to the Book of Mormon.

    But that’s OK. Faith is faith. If it works, it works. That’s all that really matters.

  194. HA says:
    @Jefferson
    Hildabeast is projected to win Utah. Why are so many Utah Mormons offended by Donald Trump's comments on Muslims? Do Mormons see themselves as an oppressed religious minority and see Donald Trump as the big bad racist Protestant?

    Replies: @Ed, @e, @Jack Hanson, @Hibernian, @Percy Gryce, @HA

    >”Why are so many Utah Mormons offended by Donald Trump’s comments on Muslims?”

    It was in the late 70’s that Mormons reversed their long-standing policy excluding black men from the priesthood. As with Germans eager to compensate for Nazi persecution in WWII, some Mormons are now attempting to work through their collective guilt by eagerly shouting “Racist!” and wagging fingers at any opportunity.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_Revelation_on_Priesthood

    Not that these efforts are met with much appreciation. Note the reaction to Mitt Romney’s adopted black grandchild:

    http://rare.us/story/mitt-romney-has-an-adopted-grandchild-left-erupts-with-venom/

  195. @Steve Sailer
    @PiltdownMan

    I've played golf in 112 degree heat. It wears you down.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    True.

    I see I was ambiguous in the way I phrased my comment.

    I did not mean that “I’d not even notice” the heat—I meant that I’d “not even notice” that I was drinking that much water

    When I wandered in the heat like that, I’d shower and then be wiped out for the rest of the day.

  196. AP says:
    @RadicalCenter
    @Ed

    Almost EVERY white woman of our acquaintance who has children, supports Trump or leans Trump. Old and young, in many different States around the country, family and friends.

    By contrast, women of our acquaintance who never had children are either steady Dems virulently opposed to Trump and voting for Shrillary (my two childless lawyer friends in NJ and NYC) or non-Dems who are nonetheless going to vote third-party because Trump is so "racist" and "meanspirited" (my sister, my wife's sister, and others).

    My reaction, at least the part that can be printed, to "women" like this is: If you don't give a damn about perpetuating your own family, fine, but we care about ours. And we care about our NATION, too, which has nothing to do with the government. At least stop supporting people who are intentionally making it impossible to raise our children in a civilized, safe, productive, high-trust, prosperous, intelligent, English-speaking culture.

    Nah, what I mean is: look, you weird selfish barren bitches, stop f---- up the country for normal people who have children and are actually working to raise the next generation right.

    Replies: @AP

    Almost EVERY white woman of our acquaintance who has children, supports Trump or leans Trump. Old and young, in many different States around the country, family and friends.

    I can swap anecdotes. Thinking about this, I realize that I know very few women who don’t have kids (at least, well enough to know whom they are voting for). I have a female ethnic Russian friend, childless, who is voting Trump. I know a childless Jewish woman who is voting Hillary. Neither one is mean-spirited. That’s about it. As for people with kids – I know many many Northeastern “Belmont” wives with kids who are voting Hillary. Our neighborhood school parking lot is full of Volvos, Lexuses and Mercedes Benzes with Hillary or Bernie stickers. Ethnic Russian friends in California (Russian “liberals”, so kind of like neocons rather than like American liberals) with kids were set to vote for any Republican other than Trump, and are saying they’ll vote libertarian. A few Russian Jewish friends with kids, who hated Trump during the primaries, nevertheless are leaning towards him in the general election. Several Midwesterners with kids are voting Trump, but one couple have been pro-Hillary from the start (the wife is one of those devout Catholic dissident/liberal-feminist types). A friend who is a conservative Catholic seems to be sitting this one out.

    So my useless anecdotal evidence doesn’t support a trend of childlessness = voting for Hillary. Among the people I know, it’s mostly about ethnicity (Russian or Russian-Jewish ethnics, childless or no, lean Trump with no particular enthusiasm, WASPs and American Jews support Hillary), career, and geography.

  197. @Buffalo Joe
    @ben tillman

    Ben, Isn't Sotomayor a member of La Raza, and doesn't that translate to The Race. So apparently she does not consider herself to be white.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Ben, Isn’t Sotomayor a member of La Raza, and doesn’t that translate to The Race. So apparently she does not consider herself to be white.

    Right, but why? What is her background?

  198. @anonymous
    @Bill

    Yes, that's what I certainly meant.

    So, what's your motivation? You seem to have expended some real time and effort to try to disprove something that, as still seems apparent to me, I didn't assert to begin with.

    Replies: @Bill

    My motivation is love of truth. It makes me all interested in correcting false factual claims about stuff. I’m weird that way <— not even being sarcastic here. What's yours?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Bill

    Ideally, to learn from and, occasionally, enlighten others willing to have our assumptions challenged.

    In my opinion, too many are here to insult those of differing views, to embolden their allies and themselves, or to simply rack up big comment totals.

  199. @AnotherDad
    @Ed


    I guess Thomas is preferable as he had the good sense to shut up and follow Scalia’s lead.
     
    My understanding--i'm a tech guy not a lawyer type--is Thomas in fact did *not* just follow Scalia's lead. That's a lefty "Uncle Clarence" stereotype. I don't believe he voted with Scalia any more than typical for a conservative justice. He was no Scalia's mini-me.

    My--non-lawyer, but interested layman--impression:
    -- Scalia was a "plain language, plain meaning" sort of guy, with traditionalist conservative instincts
    -- Thomas is more of a libertarian guy

    Thomas was the beneficiary of a very sleazy "Uncle Tom" campaign by the left. But his opinions that i read or heard described, my thought was "this guy is on my side; he wants to protect my rights as an American". I think he's a high quality justice.

    Replies: @Bill

    The best thing about Thomas is his refusal to participate in the absurd preening competition that is oral arguments before the court.

    He doesn’t seem especially bright to me, but at least he votes the right way most of the time. I don’t see anything humiliating about having him on the court, though.

  200. @Bill
    @anonymous

    My motivation is love of truth. It makes me all interested in correcting false factual claims about stuff. I'm weird that way <--- not even being sarcastic here. What's yours?

    Replies: @anonymous

    Ideally, to learn from and, occasionally, enlighten others willing to have our assumptions challenged.

    In my opinion, too many are here to insult those of differing views, to embolden their allies and themselves, or to simply rack up big comment totals.

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