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From Wired Science:
Like I may have mentioned once or twice before, extremely competitive ex-men who want to crush women’s sports into dust beneath their chariot wheels are, on average, not nice guys.
A commenter suggests that would be a good Current Year sequel for a P.G. Wodehouse novel:
Sir Roderick Spode, former leader of the fascist Black Shorts and “amateur dictator,” goes trans and enters his team of gender-affirming ex-Black Shorts, now renamed the Black Skirts, in the annual village rounders tournament for milkmaids.
Only Jeeves, with his 9 1/8th size hat, can come up with a solution to the madness.
Did Alex Bregman and Juan Soto get the idea that they are supposed to carry their bats around the bases from watching videos of cute girls play rounders?
A commenter suggests:
Put trans competitors in the Paralympics. Nobody pays any attention to that anyway.
That sounds pretty sensible. Except it would be a bad idea to put a bunch of M to Fs around innocent retarded children.
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I am old enough to remember when Wired was worth reading.
The Woke turn everything they touch into shit.
It's even worse than that but--Alas!--words fail.
“what would ernest borgnine say” a.ka. wwebd said …..
“like I may have mentioned once or twice before, extremely competitive ex-men who want to crust women’s sports into dust beneath their chariot wheels are, on average, not nice guys.”
Wodehouse and Plautus could not have said it better.
Wikipedia is rarely a good source but they do a good job on Roderick Spode, the legendary fictional forerunner of the current crop of transgender athletes.
Spode as trans, a cross-dresser, or some other fetish, doesn't seem particularly off the mark.
I can’t stop laughing. A true Oppression Olympics!
“Sports—and life—have never been fair.”
Okay, I’ll take that, as long as progressives are willing to apply this wisdom to other aspects of life.
Meanwhile, the Army has transitioned into gender neutral physical fitness tests and 86% of women now fail (not just “don’t do well” but “career ending fail”).
And I say good riddance. Here’s your Blank Slate Gender Equality good and hard
Notice not many people speaking up in defense of glorious womens’ sports that everyone is supposed to love.Replies: @Joe Schmoe
From 2 years ago:
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2017/08/11/at-boot-camp-3-out-of-4-women-fail-to-meet-combat-standards/
Life’s a bitch.
Woman lawyer I know is on a roller derby team. The league has a trans man to woman who plays. He has hurt many people, including knocking one unconscious.
I pointed out the man to woman has a different pelvis and hips in addition to the higher upper body strength.
Not only are the other players forbidden by the league to say any of those things, they are also forbidden to, and told they will be thrown out if they do, call him “him”. I now call him him every chance I get.
Most of the trans people don't get the complete surgery to turn them into actual females. Would it be discrimination if women formed new sports leagues that required the players to be physically women? We know that getting breasts and a vagina won't take away all the advantages to being born male but if having them were a requirement to play, it would keep the vast majority of male athletes out of women's sports.Replies: @Autochthon
OT: Speaking of propaganda.
Somebody hasn’t seen the UN population projections…
Garrett Hardin used to make this point all the time.
These guys are dead wrong that immigration is the answer, but how is denying the problem of a collapsing population any better.
I do like how these guys admit that Canada is guilty of strip-mining Third World talent, and that can be ethically objectionable.
I know a gorilla that wants to be human. Put him in wrestling. It aint fair but…
PS. What about those who identify as disabled? Should they take part in Paralympics?
Or what about heavyweight boxers who identify as flyweights? Weight is a social construct. After all, what is fat in one society is normal in another.
Btw, I’m loving this tranny in sports thing. It’s better than comedy.
I can’t want til some tranny ice skater takes the ice and pulls many more tricks. Hope he has a beards and balls big enough to bulge through the panties.
Oh look, no author in the byline…
On it only some rich troll would buy a WNBA team and fill it with TG players.
Otherwise, I'll just put my money into Orville Redenbacher stock and buy a few cases myself. This is very enjoyable.
(Trick question: don't watch basketball.)
Onward! Ever onward!
I’m just enjoying the show. As long as they don’t lower the age of consent and legalize pedophilia I don’t care what the liberals do about their sex problems.
People used to laugh at this shit when it was only in the “soft” sciences like sociology and psychology. But now it has corrupted the “hard” sciences like physiology, anatomy, and biology, too.
The Great American Proletarian Cultural Revolution continues unabated…
Wow. Who should win? Billions of women or the tiny number of transgender men who refuse to compete against other men. This is the mentality of them now, this person is on the IOC committee deciding these things.
But not against people that you’re categorically going to cream in physical competition.
How about, competitions of trans solely with one another.Replies: @notsaying
"like I may have mentioned once or twice before, extremely competitive ex-men who want to crust women's sports into dust beneath their chariot wheels are, on average, not nice guys."
Wodehouse and Plautus could not have said it better.
Wikipedia is rarely a good source but they do a good job on Roderick Spode, the legendary fictional forerunner of the current crop of transgender athletes.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Forbes
Yeah, that would be a good current year sequel to a Bertie and Jeeves book: Sir Roderick Spode Goes Trans.
“Protect girls sports”
Win an election with just 3 words
Maybe they’re just trying to be Weird.
https://youtu.be/-UJ9K8lMxPA
Okay, I'll take that, as long as progressives are willing to apply this wisdom to other aspects of life.Replies: @al gore rhythms, @res, @JohnnyD
They certainly apply it to politics, law and the media.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjZ0GBL9ArAReplies: @Dtbb
Remake the movie with a GI Joe and them wearing jocks on their head.
You bring up a point here, Skyler. Is there a way to make a buck out of this? Say you bring onto your soft-pitch roster some, uhhh, water boys, or coaches that are 2 weeks away from chrysalis, errr, transition. You give me enough time to place some bets with my bookie. Then these guys transition, they’re already on the team and familiar with the playbook, and Wallahh, your team wins the pennant, and everybody’s happy.
Otherwise, I’ll just put my money into Orville Redenbacher stock and buy a few cases myself. This is very enjoyable.
You know, my Dad used to tell us “life’s not fair” quite a bit. I don’t this business here is anything near WTF he was warning us about.
Now, sports… sports ARE supposed to be fair.
I recently watched “Renee,” a documentary about Richard Raskind/Renee Richards and, uh, she conforms exactly to that model. Just amazing levels of narcissism and self-absorption. It’s an interesting portrait of his early family life – parents both doctors, with his mother one of the first female psychiatrists in the US. The mother absolutely dominated the family life, browbeat her husband into submission on everything. “He never won a single argument with her,”said Richards. Is that sort of parental dynamic common in these cases?
Also interesting to note that the tournament director who let her enter her first professional tournament as Renee Richards was Eugene Scott, her old college teammate at Yale and member of Skull and Bones.
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/ESPN-Films-Collection-Vol-1-Blu-ray/100729/
If you read far enough into the article, it acknowledges that a lot of male advantages are permanent.
https://www.wired.com/story/the-glorious-victories-of-trans-athletes-are-shaking-up-sports/
(Note, the article title has been changed, but “glorious” lives on in the URL, like all of Steve’s title misspellings.)
But fear not. We can introduce a handicapping system.
The Paralympics already do this, she notes. Actually, I just had a thought: Put trans competitors in the Paralympics. Nobody pays any attention to that anyway.
Finally, is author Christie Aschwanden trans? Your call:
(Her voice, the acid test, on videos seems woman-born-woman to me. But her face …)
Very unlikely. She was on her girls high-school athletics team. No visible kids though, and she shoots elk. Is that a Colorado thing for girls?
https://www.lastwordonnothing.com/about-us/christie-aschwanden/
"I live on a small farm perched on a sunny slope of the Grand Mesa in western Colorado where my winemaker husband tends our vineyard, orchard and garden, and I raise a flock of heritage poultry. "Replies: @Alfa158
I wonder why they changed it. It had a delicious Maoist flavor.
Or just take Harrison Bergeron for a model and impose impediments according to ability.
We must stop this crisis of inequality in sports. The top 1% are appropriating a vastly disproportionate share of the success based on their privilege as good athletes. We need to take away their gold medals and use the proceeds to fund participation tropies for all.
https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/silverstone-winning-toyota-to-be-made-1-4s-slower-at-fuji/
Now granted, a lot of this "adjusting" is done to either keep the field closer and prevent the same teams or drivers winning every race, or to keep manufacturers who bring money and publicity to the series from saying "Oh what's the use?" and taking their ball, I mean car or engine and going home.
How you'd Harrison Bergeron a flesh and blood athletic event goodness only knows. At least in track and field you could do the human equivalent of bracket racing and give the XX chromosome girls a head start over the XX identifying "girls" I suppose: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket_racing
Is there anyone who enjoys watching women pretending to be men destroying actual women in sports? I suppose some aggressive M to F trans might, but that’s a pretty small universe.
I would think promising to support legislation to ensure women’s sports mean biological women would be a pretty easy way to pick up votes, but the Stupid Party is too busy with tax cuts and not doing anything about immigration to swing at a pitch right across the plate.
Okay, I'll take that, as long as progressives are willing to apply this wisdom to other aspects of life.Replies: @al gore rhythms, @res, @JohnnyD
That is a jarring observation given how much concern they give “fairness” (aka “justice”, or “equity”) in all other areas (e.g. economic, racial). Of course, as we all know, it is not about consistency or principles. It is about who, whom?
Retarded kids compete in the Special Olympics, not yet Para Olympics.
The Barcelona Olympics were held in August, which was retarded. I remember envying the Paralympians and their spectators for being scheduled a month later.
The free events weren't worth it-- the women's marathon at the zombie-like 25th mile, and the sailing-- but the worst was synchronized swimming, where the bleachers served as solar panels. The best ticket was fencing-- eight hours in air conditioning! Better yet, a friend went to the kayaking, way up in the mountains near Andorra. Much more comfortable.
The Spanish basketball team for the intellectually disability event at the 2000 Sydney Paralympics had only one token retard . They did naturally "win " the Gold Medal -well they did at least until the s**t hit the fan .It was quite the scandal at the time
After that the powers that be decided to not have any more events for "athletes with an intellectual disability "Replies: @Dave Pinsen
Women’s sports are toast unless they transition to Barr body positive sports.
Right. Imagine hearing “Education, like life, has never been fair.”
Okay, I'll take that, as long as progressives are willing to apply this wisdom to other aspects of life.Replies: @al gore rhythms, @res, @JohnnyD
Like when they bring up why whites make more money than blacks? Or why there are more male CEO’s?
Heaven forbid we have trans men in the WNBA and finally see someone dunk!
“Except it would be a bad idea to put a bunch of M to Fs around innocent retarded children.”
I’m actually shocked you used the word “retarded”.
By the time they separate all athletes by such an array of factors, each will be competing in a class by him/her/their self. Everyone gets first prize!
Was Tom Brady wearing a pork pie hat for this Devo “Are We Not Men” album cover?
The cover illustration was based on a photo of Chi Chi Rodriguez.Replies: @Bubba
How many months until our new Red Guards oblige the author to endure a Struggle Session for misgendering women as ‘trans-athletes’? Or just go the whole way and defenestrate ‘them’?
It’s hard to stay ahead of a revolution that moves at the speed of modern communication devices.
BTW, ‘ex-men’ is very good. You’ve given rise to another meme.
I think we all know they are not “shaking up” women’s sports, they are ruining them. I’m not a fan myself – except for ice skating, tennis, and gymnastics – but it does seem unfair to real female athletes.
That could kind of bring things to a head. The National League of Lesbians forced to accept pretend women who can kick their asses. The ramifications are mind boggling.
“transgender people who only want to enjoy the same things that everybody else does, including participation in sports”
But not against people that you’re categorically going to cream in physical competition.
How about, competitions of trans solely with one another.
It is interesting that Joanna Harper was willing to spell out the situation in truthful terms though.
I agree with you that the only way to be fair is for the trans athletes to compete against themselves. But there are too few of them for that to be practical. If they really just wanted to enjoy themselves and play the sports like they always did, they could continue to play against men. They would just have to content themselves with being slightly weaker due to taking hormones. They could claim if the men's teams didn't want to accept weaker players that the men's teams were discriminating against them. Of course they wouldn't ever win any competitions but if the point is to allow trans females to keep on playing sports, that shouldn't matter, should it?
I can't want til some tranny ice skater takes the ice and pulls many more tricks. Hope he has a beards and balls big enough to bulge through the panties.Replies: @International Jew, @TWS
Harambe lives??
I’m loving this!
Keep the same rules and players and reintroduce it as “chonkers”.
Bahahah!
Steve, that was one of your best punchlines/conclusions.
And I say good riddance. Here’s your Blank Slate Gender Equality good and hardReplies: @Desiderius, @TWS, @El Dato
Looking more and more like Trans is how they walk back Feminism without having to admit they were ever wrong, like they’ve done with Rape Culture and the Sexual Revolution.
Notice not many people speaking up in defense of glorious womens’ sports that everyone is supposed to love.
I tole ya that weight is just a social construct.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7624767/Viewers-blast-stupid-body-positive-coach-saying-words-like-obese-OFFENSIVE.html
Maybe the next thing will be transhuman sports.
Humans merged with machines will compete with humans. Women can retake the trophies!
Notice not many people speaking up in defense of glorious womens’ sports that everyone is supposed to love.Replies: @Joe Schmoe
People kind of assume female athletes are liberals or at least feminists and feel they should be free reap what liberals have sown.
The Woke turn everything they touch into shit.Replies: @obwandiyag, @FPD72, @Prester John
You’re not very old then.
WiRED was annoying even in the 90s when the Internet was on dialup and "the two Kevins" were a thing.
It was mostly full-page advertisements with some with extremely coloful graphics text in between. Felt like a monthly Burning Man technotopian festival on paper.
Sometimes there was something good. Sometimes.
I don’t think it’s about sports. I think these people want to destroy everything the people they hate enjoy.
I pointed out the man to woman has a different pelvis and hips in addition to the higher upper body strength.
Not only are the other players forbidden by the league to say any of those things, they are also forbidden to, and told they will be thrown out if they do, call him "him". I now call him him every chance I get.Replies: @obwandiyag, @Don't Look at Me, @notsaying
I’m sorry, but Roller Derby? You’re objecting to something in Roller Derby? Are you self-aware at all?
Steve is usually more careful than this.
The Barcelona Olympics were held in August, which was retarded. I remember envying the Paralympians and their spectators for being scheduled a month later.
The free events weren’t worth it– the women’s marathon at the zombie-like 25th mile, and the sailing– but the worst was synchronized swimming, where the bleachers served as solar panels. The best ticket was fencing– eight hours in air conditioning! Better yet, a friend went to the kayaking, way up in the mountains near Andorra. Much more comfortable.
Rounders is still popular in the USA but they call it “baseball”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYZPTaV-RcQ
Somebody hasn't seen the UN population projections...Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Yes, they have. It’s just that the West and the East have a different population problem, an opposite one, than does the South.
Garrett Hardin used to make this point all the time.
These guys are dead wrong that immigration is the answer, but how is denying the problem of a collapsing population any better.
I do like how these guys admit that Canada is guilty of strip-mining Third World talent, and that can be ethically objectionable.
There was famously a British fascist street-fighter in the 20s who was a woman pretending to be a man
https://zagria.blogspot.com/2017/02/victor-barker-part-ii-husband-actor.html
Yes, the Para Olympics are just Olympics for people with physical disabilities. They are run in the same city as the regular Olympics just after the normal event. The Para stands for “parallel”.
That ‘Blackshorts’ characterization of Wodehouse, the notion being of ‘amateur fascists’ running around in uniforms containing pairs of ‘black shorts’ rather than ‘black shirts’, still always makes me laugh whenever I read it.
What are you saying?
WiRED was annoying even in the 90s when the Internet was on dialup and “the two Kevins” were a thing.
It was mostly full-page advertisements with some with extremely coloful graphics text in between. Felt like a monthly Burning Man technotopian festival on paper.
Sometimes there was something good. Sometimes.
Exactly. That’s only “fair.”
We must stop this crisis of inequality in sports. The top 1% are appropriating a vastly disproportionate share of the success based on their privilege as good athletes. We need to take away their gold medals and use the proceeds to fund participation tropies for all.
Consider that they have had a certain appendage chopped off … face it, no F to M types are involved here … the Paralympics is not a bad idea. But they should be required substitute a spring-blade to make up for the lost appendage.
Also interesting to note that the tournament director who let her enter her first professional tournament as Renee Richards was Eugene Scott, her old college teammate at Yale and member of Skull and Bones.
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/ESPN-Films-Collection-Vol-1-Blu-ray/100729/Replies: @Rohirrimborn
I was a patient of Dr. Raskind before he transitioned.
He did have a thing for women’s underwear, if you recall. Even had his own shop selling the stuff. Who knows what he got up to in the stockroom after hours?
There is nothing wrong with her face. Middle European.
After all the adjustments have been done, it’s obviously only fair if everyone ends up in first place. Equality of outcome.
Maybe then the WNBA would be worth watching?
(Trick question: don’t watch basketball.)
She may just be on PEDs.
“The Glorious Victories of Trans Athletes Are Shaking Up Sports”
Sounds Mao-ey.
https://chineseposters.net/gallery/e13-706.php
Use and study Chairman Mao’s glorious philosophical thought in a big way
They used to have events for the ” intellectually disabled ” ( that’s the polite term for what folk here call “retarded ” ) at the Paralympics but they stopped because ( shock horror ) people cheated
The Spanish basketball team for the intellectually disability event at the 2000 Sydney Paralympics had only one token retard . They did naturally “win ” the Gold Medal -well they did at least until the s**t hit the fan .It was quite the scandal at the time
After that the powers that be decided to not have any more events for “athletes with an intellectual disability ”
The Woke turn everything they touch into shit.Replies: @obwandiyag, @FPD72, @Prester John
Political correctness is the belief that you can polish a turd.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/816KAfU5FhL._SX425_.jpgReplies: @FPD72, @Anonymous
I know you are kidding, but since Brady was one year old when the album was releases, probably not. But, the resemblance to the present Brady is remarkable.
The cover illustration was based on a photo of Chi Chi Rodriguez.
Or manly ‘guys’.
Laugh all you want but the Harrison Bergeron approach is already applied in mechanized sport, specifically auto racing. It’s common in professional sports car racing and other forms of racing (IndyCar, Formula One, NASCAR) to “adjust the playing field” if one team or a group of teams gain a noticeable advantage over others by adding extra weight to a chassis, reducing engine power (smaller engine displacement, lower turbocharger boost), reducing onboard fuel capacity or fuel allotment by race (less fuel available forces teams to slow their pace), etc, like so:
https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/silverstone-winning-toyota-to-be-made-1-4s-slower-at-fuji/
Now granted, a lot of this “adjusting” is done to either keep the field closer and prevent the same teams or drivers winning every race, or to keep manufacturers who bring money and publicity to the series from saying “Oh what’s the use?” and taking their ball, I mean car or engine and going home.
How you’d Harrison Bergeron a flesh and blood athletic event goodness only knows. At least in track and field you could do the human equivalent of bracket racing and give the XX chromosome girls a head start over the XX identifying “girls” I suppose: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket_racing
“is author Christie Aschwanden trans?”
Very unlikely. She was on her girls high-school athletics team. No visible kids though, and she shoots elk. Is that a Colorado thing for girls?
https://www.lastwordonnothing.com/about-us/christie-aschwanden/
“I live on a small farm perched on a sunny slope of the Grand Mesa in western Colorado where my winemaker husband tends our vineyard, orchard and garden, and I raise a flock of heritage poultry. “
And I say good riddance. Here’s your Blank Slate Gender Equality good and hardReplies: @Desiderius, @TWS, @El Dato
Couldn’t happen to a nicer group if people.
I can't want til some tranny ice skater takes the ice and pulls many more tricks. Hope he has a beards and balls big enough to bulge through the panties.Replies: @International Jew, @TWS
Balls out for Harambe..
I'm actually shocked you used the word "retarded".Replies: @TWS
Shocked.
Most people would not walk across the street to watch women’s sports anyway so the fact that mentally ill people are ruining it does not make much impact.
How about a paralell event for ordinary people who don’t train or dope themselves up?
What kind of bizarre idea is this?
I suppose it could be comedic: a bunch of fat and scrawny idiots puffing and huffing or making uncoordinated, wild throws and kicks.
Anyhow, we already have all this stuff, I suppose: it's called "amateur sports." It occurs in ballfields, soccer pitches, and basketball courts at parks all over the nation on any given afternoon – but, except for perhaps the participants' friends and relatives, no one much watches it – for good reason.
The Spanish basketball team for the intellectually disability event at the 2000 Sydney Paralympics had only one token retard . They did naturally "win " the Gold Medal -well they did at least until the s**t hit the fan .It was quite the scandal at the time
After that the powers that be decided to not have any more events for "athletes with an intellectual disability "Replies: @Dave Pinsen
Gavin McInnes wrote once the craziness of how Paralympic sports were scored.
Most sports do not matter at all.
What matters:
pro football
pro basketball (that is NBA basketball, by the way; that league Marbury is the superstar of doesn’t matter)
pro baseball
a very few others.
The only women’s sports which are even within shouting distance of mattering are gymnastics and figure skating, for two weeks every four years when they are the big draw on the olympics television show. Also it is generous to even call those sports since the score is determined by judges and not any objective goal measurement like a touchdown or a basket. But I digress.
If people want to get their panties twisted in a bunch about trans WNBA players let them. The weight lifting, the cycling, the cricket or whatever. None of it matters at all.
Game 7 of the world series is tonight. That matters. This other bullshit? Nope.
Sports competitions have a long way to go before they become truly non-discriminatory. Why do people (note I say people, not men) with big muscles win disproportionately more medals in sports like weight lifting and wrestling? How unfair to the muscle-challenged! The remedy: devise an algorithm to keep adding points to the muscle-challenged folks’ scores until we have equality of outcomes. The muscle-rippled and the muscle-challenged will then win equal number of weight lifting prizes. Liberal Eggheads, assorted noodleheads, and pinheads of all types will then win by lifting 20 pounds compared to a brawny player’s lift of 800 pounds. Now that would be true affirmative action at work in sports.
The Woke turn everything they touch into shit.Replies: @obwandiyag, @FPD72, @Prester John
“The Woke turn everything they touch into shit.”
It’s even worse than that but–Alas!–words fail.
What matters:
pro football
pro basketball (that is NBA basketball, by the way; that league Marbury is the superstar of doesn't matter)
pro baseball
a very few others.
The only women's sports which are even within shouting distance of mattering are gymnastics and figure skating, for two weeks every four years when they are the big draw on the olympics television show. Also it is generous to even call those sports since the score is determined by judges and not any objective goal measurement like a touchdown or a basket. But I digress.
If people want to get their panties twisted in a bunch about trans WNBA players let them. The weight lifting, the cycling, the cricket or whatever. None of it matters at all.
Game 7 of the world series is tonight. That matters. This other bullshit? Nope.Replies: @AnotherDad
That matters not one whit.
The sports you cite have an audience–as does soccer internationally, cricket in ex-Brit colonies, hockey, etc. But none of the sports you mention “matter”.
I’ve watched sports and not watched sports and … the world just rolls on, with the same inanities and insanities ever growing.
Demographics, politics matter. Sports decisively does not matter …
… except perhaps through political/social effects. Ex. weird negrophillia in the US, now “enriched soccer teams in Europe.” This trans thing might actually end up mattering by annoying people about freakism and hopefully minoritarianism. And perhaps by starkly making clear the huge male/female performance gap and in the process reminding people of and reinforcing traditional sex roles and complementarity.
Even if all that happens is permanent damage to Title IX that will be a good first step.
Interesting. I always assumed that the Para Olympics was for paraplegics.
(Note, the article title has been changed, but “glorious” lives on in the URL, like all of Steve’s title misspellings.)
I wonder why they changed it. It had a delicious Maoist flavor.
This trans thing might actually end up mattering by annoying people about freakism and hopefully minoritarianism. And perhaps by starkly making clear the huge male/female performance gap and in the process reminding people of and reinforcing traditional sex roles and complementarity.
Even if all that happens is permanent damage to Title IX that will be a good first step.
"like I may have mentioned once or twice before, extremely competitive ex-men who want to crust women's sports into dust beneath their chariot wheels are, on average, not nice guys."
Wodehouse and Plautus could not have said it better.
Wikipedia is rarely a good source but they do a good job on Roderick Spode, the legendary fictional forerunner of the current crop of transgender athletes.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Forbes
Spode did operate a women’s lingerie shop (described as a designer of women’s underclothing). A detail Jeeves uncovered, the name of which (“Eulalie”) was used by Bertie to tie Spode in knots in their never-ending confrontations.
Spode as trans, a cross-dresser, or some other fetish, doesn’t seem particularly off the mark.
And I say good riddance. Here’s your Blank Slate Gender Equality good and hardReplies: @Desiderius, @TWS, @El Dato
I completely missed that
From 2 years ago:
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2017/08/11/at-boot-camp-3-out-of-4-women-fail-to-meet-combat-standards/
How is this not worse/less ethical than former East Germany doping their athletes? Or currently Chinese doing genetic engineering? Using a male as a woman in female sports is a sure way to get medals in any sport.
I pointed out the man to woman has a different pelvis and hips in addition to the higher upper body strength.
Not only are the other players forbidden by the league to say any of those things, they are also forbidden to, and told they will be thrown out if they do, call him "him". I now call him him every chance I get.Replies: @obwandiyag, @Don't Look at Me, @notsaying
There’s a solution if someone is willing to play dirty.
An opposing team brings their own M to F tranny. A real bruiser. Doesn’t have to be an actual tranny, just someone who says they are. This guy’s one job is to take your lawyer friend’s tranny teammate out of the game permanently. He goes after that actual tranny like an assassin and brutalizes him like he did to so many of the ladies. Once that is done the fake tranny can switch to a team with a similar problem and keep doing so until the sport is cleaned up.
Heck, this would make for a decent Adam Sandler movie. I call it Skates of Fury.
Why let it get to that point? I accurately predicted to my friends that if we let gay marriage become a thing, it wouldn’t end there. They would move on to the next thing and eventually things would get ridiculous. So even though gay marriage might not have been that objectionable to you, the smart thing would be to fight on that hill to keep them from advancing to the hill we are unwilling to give up.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/816KAfU5FhL._SX425_.jpgReplies: @FPD72, @Anonymous
DEVO were right about everything. Every goddamn thing.
I pointed out the man to woman has a different pelvis and hips in addition to the higher upper body strength.
Not only are the other players forbidden by the league to say any of those things, they are also forbidden to, and told they will be thrown out if they do, call him "him". I now call him him every chance I get.Replies: @obwandiyag, @Don't Look at Me, @notsaying
It’s sad to hear that the women are still willing to play against this man when he unfairly uses his strength against them.
Most of the trans people don’t get the complete surgery to turn them into actual females. Would it be discrimination if women formed new sports leagues that required the players to be physically women? We know that getting breasts and a vagina won’t take away all the advantages to being born male but if having them were a requirement to play, it would keep the vast majority of male athletes out of women’s sports.
You had may as well write: "Most wizards don't complete the training to actually summon elementals and create undead."
It's nothing to do with any surgery or the completion thereof; it's a matter of physical limitations in time and space – also known as "reality."
But not against people that you’re categorically going to cream in physical competition.
How about, competitions of trans solely with one another.Replies: @notsaying
This is appalling. That a trans female athlete compares the billion of women in the world to the tiny number of trans females and says, it is OK to discriminate against the billions so that the few can play in unequal competitions against them and win is simply ridiculous.
It is interesting that Joanna Harper was willing to spell out the situation in truthful terms though.
I agree with you that the only way to be fair is for the trans athletes to compete against themselves. But there are too few of them for that to be practical. If they really just wanted to enjoy themselves and play the sports like they always did, they could continue to play against men. They would just have to content themselves with being slightly weaker due to taking hormones. They could claim if the men’s teams didn’t want to accept weaker players that the men’s teams were discriminating against them. Of course they wouldn’t ever win any competitions but if the point is to allow trans females to keep on playing sports, that shouldn’t matter, should it?
Very unlikely. She was on her girls high-school athletics team. No visible kids though, and she shoots elk. Is that a Colorado thing for girls?
https://www.lastwordonnothing.com/about-us/christie-aschwanden/
"I live on a small farm perched on a sunny slope of the Grand Mesa in western Colorado where my winemaker husband tends our vineyard, orchard and garden, and I raise a flock of heritage poultry. "Replies: @Alfa158
I know a wife and mother in Colorado who is into it big time. She applies for all three elk seasons; bow, black-powder, and standard rifle. Some season tags are by drawing lots, but at least one year she got tags for all three seasons and took an elk in each of the three. She must have given away a lot of elk meat that year.
Or outcome of equality. TomAto tomato…
They aren’t uniformly liberal, that’s just a misperception because lesbians used to get disproportionately into women’s sports (less of a thing now as increasingly most lesbians are too fat to participate in sports). There are probably more female athletes in the Southeast than in other regions and the parents get more into it here. Also it runs across all social classes here, whereas in other regions it’s more of a rich girl thing. Female athletes are usually just from more masculine families in general. Redneck families teach their daughters to play catch and fish and whatnot…soft mousy families (most liberals) don’t bother, because they aren’t into it themselves. I bet there is a direct correlation between women who own/use guns and women who played sports growing up.
Face it: aside from fringe religious groups, the most “demure” women are the spoiled upper middle class ladies who support SJW causes. Femininity = an excess of niceness.
A fair number of lesbians are jocks, coaches, military officers, cops, etc. They are less likely to vote for Trump than males in the same occupations, but some do.
Who cares about girls playing sports? Even girls don’t care about that. This is a non issue.
We did fight gay marriage in California. In 2008 we put an anti gay marriage referendum on the ballot and it won by a large margin.
2 days later a judge issued an injunction against it. The referendum was overturned by the courts. And gay marriage was legalized by that law suit as the judge FOUND that the anti gay marriage referendum was a violation of the 14th amendment and ORDERED that henceforth persons of the same sex could be married in the state.
What did your state do to stop gay marriage?
Trans men VS lesbian athletes is no concern of mine.
The cover illustration was based on a photo of Chi Chi Rodriguez.Replies: @Bubba
Yes, most definitely kidding! I’m 12 years older than the most awesome Quarterback Tom Brady and liked Devo when they first appeared on SNL in 1978. However, I didn’t know that was the amazing Chi Chi – wow! Thank you very for that info! That is cool to know!
His salsa and his restaurants are terrible.Replies: @Bubba
Equality of outcome is not a quality outcome.
“Ordinary people who don’t train” are not athletes. What the Hell?! Should there be concerts staged for “ordinary people who don’t practice their instruments” (i.e., are not musicians)? What about giving “ordinary people who don’t bother learning to cook” a shot at running restaurants?
What kind of bizarre idea is this?
I suppose it could be comedic: a bunch of fat and scrawny idiots puffing and huffing or making uncoordinated, wild throws and kicks.
Anyhow, we already have all this stuff, I suppose: it’s called “amateur sports.” It occurs in ballfields, soccer pitches, and basketball courts at parks all over the nation on any given afternoon – but, except for perhaps the participants’ friends and relatives, no one much watches it – for good reason.
His salsa and his restaurants are terrible.
Most of the trans people don't get the complete surgery to turn them into actual females. Would it be discrimination if women formed new sports leagues that required the players to be physically women? We know that getting breasts and a vagina won't take away all the advantages to being born male but if having them were a requirement to play, it would keep the vast majority of male athletes out of women's sports.Replies: @Autochthon
Friend, no such surgery exists.
You had may as well write: “Most wizards don’t complete the training to actually summon elementals and create undead.”
It’s nothing to do with any surgery or the completion thereof; it’s a matter of physical limitations in time and space – also known as “reality.”
His salsa and his restaurants are terrible.Replies: @Bubba
What?!? I can’t believe that the awesome American (OK, so he is a Puerto Rican) like Chi-Chi would denigrate himself by letting his name appear on Mexican dog food. The original Irish/Scots founders of “Chi-Chi’s” from Green Bay and Minneapolis should be on trial for crimes against humanity for cashing in on that fad. And thank God that Chi-Chi’s restaurants were run out of America 15 years ago! Let the Europeans and Middle East suffer now!
And I’ll always cherish that Chi-Chi Devo album cover regardless of what the naysayers tell me.
I always thought that they were like the pseudo-Olympics, like paramilitary or paraprofessional.