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A friend writes:
Bloomberg is running as a Trump-like version of Biden. (Biden is the “Jeb!” To Bloomberg’s Trump)
Bloomberg can run as a billionaire who gets things done and I think he will learn to be brash, rogueish and bold like Trump was in 2016.
He’ll eventually start saying things like “—- the 2nd amendment, lets stop school shootings!” And as you pointed out, he can implicitly be the law and order “no guns, stop and frisk” guy.
He represents the Judge Judy (who is his biggest fan) wing of the Jewish vote.
He’s the Freud to Bernie’s Marx.
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Judge Judy on Donald @ 1:35 seconds into this November ‘15 video “and I’m crazy about Donald”:
Jude Judy Sheindlin January 2020, “Mike Bloomberg will unite our country”:
Judys “endorsement” runs during the mid show commercial break of her daily boob tube court show.
Finally, a friend forwarded me this text from her ~12 year old child:
Judge Judy on Donald @ 1:35 seconds into this November ‘15 video “and I’m crazy about Donald”:
Jude Judy Sheindlin January 2020, “Mike Bloomberg will unite our country”:
Finally, a text forwarded to me by a friend from her ~12yr old child:
Your friend is a moron. Jeb was a classic country-club Republican running against a supposed nativist firebrand in Trump, who was also powered by the alt-right revolt against the PC brigade. Whereas the Democrats never nominate either type, it’s always younger politicians with lots of Pokemon points (first black, first woman, first left-handed tranny), communists like Bernie, or the occasional crusader for some favored progressive cause like environmentalism or getting out of wars.
Biden and Bloomie hit none of those, I’d wager your friend at 1000:1 odds that neither will be the Democratic nominee. Biden is clearly slipping over into senility and doesn’t have the Pokemon points to get the media protection Hillary got, while Bloomie is a clearly egotistical Jew billionaire. If you or your friend think either one has a shot at the nomination, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
https://i.ibb.co/1Kh8rSt/bloomberg-valentine.jpgReplies: @Gunner, @Steve in Greensboro
Bernie describes himself as a democratic socialist. Having lived in Denmark for a few years I would point out that Scandinavian democratic socialism has its pluses and minuses but is essentially egalitarian. So normally I would've disagreed with you on the grouchy old Jew. But the left of North America and Northern Europe has taken a degenerating dive into Globalism, which is really a variant of totalitarianism. If Bernie is given more political power he will become a tool of this authoritarian system. Following the EU's lead.
Thirdhand gossip: Bloomberg’s staffers in New York are supposedly talking about packing up their operation. He doesn’t want to win; he just wants to prevent Bernie from winning.
Those rascally Millennials will take Bloomberg’s money, bank Bloomberg’s money, and meme for Bernie online.
What does it all mean? If the Dems can’t swallow their pride and get behind Sanders, Trump will win.
I really hope they don't, then. The thought of a Sanders presidency turns my stomach.Replies: @Blecch, @Prof. Woland
Bernie is a trap for the Dems, because he could conceivably could win the nomination, but there is no way he could win the general. There is no way an elderly Jew with heart problems will get the non-Asian minorities to turn out in the general and without them Trump's reelection is a racing certainty.
The DNC knows this and so they will stage manage the nomination process to make Bernie go away. Mini-Mike is a non-starter for most of the the same reasons. Mayor Pete is a trap like Bernie. Biden is suffering from senile dementia. The more people see of Pocahontas the less they like her.
So who's left? I don't think Michelle O wants to step into the ring. Too much work. My guess is that they will draft Hillary. Which will of course be a disaster for the party.Replies: @Jack D, @Paul Mendez, @HammerJack
Bloomberg’s tack on violence seems to be he wants to reduce black on black violence. The problem seems to be actual blacks, Black Lives Matter, are more concerned with Police on Black violence.
The sad tale of a young Black man, with an uncontroversial name, being shot dead.
George | Mike Bloomberg for President
This appears to be the George Kemp Jr story, but I am not sure.
Witnesses told deputies they were riding with Kemp in Kemp’s vehicle. Kemp drove to… confront Brandon Lacour over a personal matter. Kemp parked down the street from Lacour’s residence and called him on his cell phone, challenging Lacour, 17, to a fight. …
… One of Lacour’s passengers was carrying a hand gun. Witnesses told deputies that Lacour told the subject with the gun to shoot George Kemp, which he did.
https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/fortbend/news/article/Suspect-sought-in-Richmond-murder-case-9535443.php
Mike Bloomberg’s very tall girlfriend Diane Taylor
Diana Taylor Addresses Her And Bloomberg’s Height Difference (PHOTOS)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/diana-taylor-bloomberg-do_n_807031
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Taylor_(superintendent)
Bloomberg has never had a pet: Mike Bloomberg’s Doesn’t… Get Dogs
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-50507433
It's really strange - in my neighborhood, knives mostly stay in the drawer (unless they are being used to cut up food) and guns stay in their safes, but in black neighborhoods they go out on their own like the brooms in the Sorcerer's Apprentice and commit crimes. Gun crimes. Knife crimes. You read about them all the time. Those guns are committing crimes left and right in Philly - it's an epidemic. Every day a gun kills someone in Philly. In London, it's a "knife epidemic" - says so right in the article.
They are really hard to catch. When the cops show up and ask if anyone saw a gun shoot the victim, who is lying right there dead in the street, nobody saw nothing. I myself have been to West Philly many times and never once did I see a gun walking down the street. I don't even know how they do it, since they don't have legs. The ghetto is where the real Magic Dirt must be.Replies: @fish, @Hypnotoad666
Steve, is this the same friend who reported how impressively hairy and sweaty Jeffrey Epstein was?
https://www.unz.com/isteve/jeffrey-epstein-extremely-hairy-and-sweaty
Hahaha. A little late for Bloomberg, personality-wise. One is mostly either born brash and roguish or not. Young Trump was sent to military school for being brash and roguish.
Wut? He’s going to advocate arming teachers and staff?—Unlikely, if that’s what the above actually means by mentioning the 2nd Amendment. Maybe Steve edited his friend writing “[fuck] the 2nd amendment…”.
So: Pro-gun people won’t vote for him, and blacks won’t vote for him. Win-win.
Judge Judy’s best talent is being good at giving public insults, something she shares with Trump. OTOH, Bloomberg, besides making bank, so far is only good at looking quietly sinister (see MORE below).
Nope. Michael Bloomberg is both the Eldon Tyrell and the Overlook Bartender of the 2020 campaign.
https://www.counter-currents.com/2019/10/six-degrees-of-joe-turkel/
Those rascally Millennials will take Bloomberg's money, bank Bloomberg's money, and meme for Bernie online.
What does it all mean? If the Dems can't swallow their pride and get behind Sanders, Trump will win.Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Steve in Greensboro
If the Dems can’t swallow their pride and get behind Sanders, Trump will win.
I really hope they don’t, then. The thought of a Sanders presidency turns my stomach.
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I really hope they don't, then. The thought of a Sanders presidency turns my stomach.Replies: @Blecch, @Prof. Woland
All the socialism but none of the nationalism. Perish the thought!
Yes, Bloomberg is part of ‘Operation Stop Bernie’.
No, the DNC is not going to swallow its pride re: Sanders. It’d sooner swallow cyanide.
Yes, the DNC is getting behind Sanders. There will be many hands on the knife blade*.
(*Metaphorically speaking Dear iSteve Moderator.)
Biden and Bloomie hit none of those, I'd wager your friend at 1000:1 odds that neither will be the Democratic nominee. Biden is clearly slipping over into senility and doesn't have the Pokemon points to get the media protection Hillary got, while Bloomie is a clearly egotistical Jew billionaire. If you or your friend think either one has a shot at the nomination, I've got a bridge to sell you.Replies: @Mr McKenna, @bigdicknick, @Kronos, @bomag, @SunBakedSuburb
Objected to on the grounds of multiple redundancy.
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Supposedly Bloomberg doesn’t really like Sanders or Warren, but to me that’s who he helps the most by being in the race since he siphons support off from white people who might otherwise vote for Biden.
Obviously he will never be the nominee because he successfully kept crime down and quality of life up in NYC by aggressively policing POCs, and that’s a red line for progressives. I suppose perhaps he thinks that by airing hundreds of millions in campaign ads he’s softening up Trump for the eventual Dem nominee, but I have doubts about how effective that will actually be.
He was first elected, and re-elected, as a Republican--riding Rudy Giuliani's coattails, so to speak. The third time (having gone to court to abrogate the City Charter two-term limit) he was elected as an Independent.
Not eventually. Immediately. This is a major plank of his campaign. From his website
BTW, why do Democrat politicians always have to be called by nicknames. He’s Michael. No one in NY every called him “Mike”. No one calls Trump, Don.
No, he can’t. Not in the Democrat primaries. “Stop and frisk” is a dirty word in the primary. What COLOR do you think the guys being stopped and frisked were?
Bloomberg is going to fight against GUNS. Against the GUN LOBBY. Against GUN VIOLENCE. In favor of GUN SAFETY. See his upcoming Superbowl Ad, which features a black mother who lost her son to GUNS. A GUN sneaked up on him and shot him dead. See above.
But he is not going to mention GUNMEN, just GUNS. You can be sure of that. GUNMAN draws the wrong picture, if you know what I mean.
The net effect of the Bloomberg campaign is to damage Trump. That may be the whole reason for it.
The teevee advertising we are seeing here in his neighborhood is all created to make Trump look bad. Mike’s campaign exists to make Trump look bad, and Mike can run an approximately infinite number of ads to this end.
If you want Trump to get another four years to not do anything about legal immigration, then you don’t want Bloomberg buying ad time like a fat man at a smorgasbord.
Klobuchar is the sleeper. She is female and Jewish, and she is flying under the radar while Warren crashes and the party/media attack Bernie.
She was sunk when Dems read the story about how Klobuchar is worse to her staff than anyone else in congress, and how she screams at and berates her staffers all the time. Dems won't back a person like that. She's been #MeTooed, or the equivalent thereof.Replies: @Hibernian
https://www.timesofisrael.com/5-jewish-things-about-2020-presidential-candidate-amy-klobuchar/Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @anon
As has been pointed out, Klobuchar is in no shape manner or form Jewish. She has as much chance as Andrew Yang i.e. none whatsoever. The reason she is flying under the radar is because she is beneath notice.Replies: @Desiderius, @Kevin O'Keeffe
Those rascally Millennials will take Bloomberg's money, bank Bloomberg's money, and meme for Bernie online.
What does it all mean? If the Dems can't swallow their pride and get behind Sanders, Trump will win.Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Steve in Greensboro
What the hell is it with Millenials and Sanders? Where have you been for the last century? Were you born yesterday? No, wait, you were. Socialism sucks. It has sucked wherever it has been tried. The American people are not going to elect a Socialist. Putting Sanders on the ticket will ensure Trump’s re-election.
I never liked Sanders, but when I heard him propose national rent control, I made up my mind to hold my nose and vote for Trump again. I don't want America to turn into a giant version of the Bronx ca. 1979.
You may be correct that Sanders’ socialism will destroy his candidacy at some point. But unless the candidates espousing capitalism can come up with something better than lower wages, increased housing prices, tax cuts for the rich funded by massive deficits and perpetual wars, at some point America will turn to some form of socialism.Replies: @Jack D, @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @MBlanc46, @Jonathan Mason
But you're right, they have no idea how it turns out. In Communist Romania, the party boss who ran the whole thing was Nicolae Ceaușescu. When they finally overthrow the guy, the people of Romania are disgusted by the wealth he displays in his dacha - forty tons of seed corn he uses to feed deer. Such wealth! How can one man keep this all to himself! It's pathetic.
That's exactly what will happen in America under socialism. It will take a while to use up America's wealth, but that's what will happen.
The American people elected FDR four times.
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I live in MA and there is talk of hiking the gas tax in order to "combat climate change" and finance transportation infrastructure. Mind you, only half of that tax is going to transportation, I can't seem to find out where the rest is going. So gas prices would end up at $5/gal at some point. We already some of the highest electricity prices because they refuse to run a pipeline. The reality is that they just want to force people out of cars, make it unaffordable for most. And you can bet that the increased infrastructure isn't going deep into rural areas. Those people will be SOL. This is UN Agenda 21/30, "persuade" people to move into small urban apts where it's more "sustainable". So you take huge losses on your house, car, and freedom. And it'll be impossible to reverse it because the state will take on massive debt to finance it all. That's the scammy thing about green energy. Massive debt for something that doesn't really work.
Here's an article regarding Germany's green deal debacle. 350,000 Germans power shut off, can't pay bills.
https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/service/strom-350-000-haushalte-mit-stromsperre-a-1062889.html
Here's one case that screwed over a whole Texas town.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/texas-towns-environmental-narcissism-makes-al-gore-happy-while-sticking-its-citizens-with-the-bill
Biden and Bloomie hit none of those, I'd wager your friend at 1000:1 odds that neither will be the Democratic nominee. Biden is clearly slipping over into senility and doesn't have the Pokemon points to get the media protection Hillary got, while Bloomie is a clearly egotistical Jew billionaire. If you or your friend think either one has a shot at the nomination, I've got a bridge to sell you.Replies: @Mr McKenna, @bigdicknick, @Kronos, @bomag, @SunBakedSuburb
Perhaps in recent history. if you go back to 2004 or earlier they nominated a lot of life time achievement type party members : John Kerry, Al Gore, etc. I.e. people in the mold of Biden more or less.
Well, you are half right. She’s Slovenian (like Melania). The rate of false positive Jewish identification on unz is sky high. What’s that about?
Bloomberg is beta-ish. That’s because he is a pygmy.
If that ain't alpha, I don't know what is.
Of course he had help through ethnic nepotism. Lots of other Jewish guys aren't that rich though.Replies: @Ozymandias
We can be forgiven:
5 Jewish Things About Amy Klobuchar
(BTW it is remarkable how quickly you responded to my comment. Is that your job? To stand by for whenever anyone says “Jew?”)
We can be forgiven:
5 Jewish Things About Amy Klobuchar
(BTW it is remarkable how quickly you responded to my comment. Is that your job? To stand by for whenever anyone says “Jew?”)
The same thing happens to my wife. People sometimes think she is Jewish. She is Calvinist, and she looks Eastern European because she is, like most Jews. As you probably do.
I am going to shoot myself now, Jack. Sorry.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/jeffrey-epstein-extremely-hairy-and-sweatyHahaha. A little late for Bloomberg, personality-wise. One is mostly either born brash and roguish or not. Young Trump was sent to military school for being brash and roguish.Wut? He’s going to advocate arming teachers and staff?—Unlikely, if that’s what the above actually means by mentioning the 2nd Amendment. Maybe Steve edited his friend writing “[fuck] the 2nd amendment…”.So: Pro-gun people won’t vote for him, and blacks won’t vote for him. Win-win.Judge Judy’s best talent is being good at giving public insults, something she shares with Trump. OTOH, Bloomberg, besides making bank, so far is only good at looking quietly sinister (see MORE below).Nope. Michael Bloomberg is both the Eldon Tyrell and the Overlook Bartender of the 2020 campaign.
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Will primary winner Elizabeth Warren murder Bloomberg by inserting her fingers into his brain via his eye sockets once she learns that not even he has the power to extend her campaign?
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/211264/how-to-live-with-a-huge-penis-by-dr-richard-jacob-and-rev-owen-thomas/
Propose that all future presidential debates be replaced by "trials by combat". I'm sure it would something like the fight scene from "Up".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txnRrNAeEI8
Sorry Dad. I can’t hear you over the sound of pragmatic social democracy working in Scandinavia.
Social democracy worked there for so long as they had a homogeneous, high trust society. America never had that to begin with and we sure don't have that now.
Millenials will really hate it when the US feds own Apple and start making IPhones.
The original was better…
https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/728297587418247168?lang=en
The sad tale of a young Black man, with an uncontroversial name, being shot dead.
George | Mike Bloomberg for President
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yp0yN8UxVg
This appears to be the George Kemp Jr story, but I am not sure.
Witnesses told deputies they were riding with Kemp in Kemp’s vehicle. Kemp drove to... confront Brandon Lacour over a personal matter. Kemp parked down the street from Lacour’s residence and called him on his cell phone, challenging Lacour, 17, to a fight. ...
... One of Lacour’s passengers was carrying a hand gun. Witnesses told deputies that Lacour told the subject with the gun to shoot George Kemp, which he did.
https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/fortbend/news/article/Suspect-sought-in-Richmond-murder-case-9535443.php
Mike Bloomberg's very tall girlfriend Diane Taylor
Diana Taylor Addresses Her And Bloomberg's Height Difference (PHOTOS)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/diana-taylor-bloomberg-do_n_807031
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Taylor_(superintendent)
Bloomberg has never had a pet: Mike Bloomberg's Doesn't... Get Dogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnAfIQo9E_cReplies: @Jack D, @Ragno
No, he wants to reduce GUN violence. He never mentions blacks, just GUNS. Under a Bloomberg administration, blacks will have to stab each other. And then he will take steps to reduce KNIFE violence, the way they do in Britain.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-50507433
It’s really strange – in my neighborhood, knives mostly stay in the drawer (unless they are being used to cut up food) and guns stay in their safes, but in black neighborhoods they go out on their own like the brooms in the Sorcerer’s Apprentice and commit crimes. Gun crimes. Knife crimes. You read about them all the time. Those guns are committing crimes left and right in Philly – it’s an epidemic. Every day a gun kills someone in Philly. In London, it’s a “knife epidemic” – says so right in the article.
They are really hard to catch. When the cops show up and ask if anyone saw a gun shoot the victim, who is lying right there dead in the street, nobody saw nothing. I myself have been to West Philly many times and never once did I see a gun walking down the street. I don’t even know how they do it, since they don’t have legs. The ghetto is where the real Magic Dirt must be.
This fails on a couple of levels, Jeb finished a distant 6th in the delegate count and his polls numbers were already fading fast by the time of the Iowa Caucuses. His best showing was fourth in New Hampshire. Biden may very well lose, but there is no way he does as poorly as Jeb. The other difference is it was actual voters who wanted Biden in the race, not the party establishment, where with Jeb, it was only the establishment who wanted him to run. He only led one very early poll with something like 15% that was mostly a test a name recognition. After Trump entered the race his campaign was effectively over. No one can convince me Jeb ever would have been the nominee even if Trump had never run.
There is no “Eastern European look” (and Slovenia is not in the “Eastern Europe”). But, yes, this is “Jewish looks”:
Long since I posted a hilariously crazy (and sometimes wrong) video on identifying Jews.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=7b3_1461790239
How To Identify A Jew [by Evalion]
Bloomberg will take away your guns while throwing the borders wide open. He LOVES immigrants, can’t have enough of them. Being a Jew, you know he’s all neocon on foreign policy. So we’re back to square one: endless wars, endless immigration.
I suspect Sanders will be much more restrictive on immigration once he gets nominated. Even back in 2015 he was strongly against illegal immigration and H1B. Sanders has been open about anti-neocon on foreign policy, that’s why the DNC establishment will never allow him to be nominated.
I don't believe this is likely, but even if it were, what difference would it make? Every effort Trump has made to restrict immigration has been blocked by a federal judge or the congress. What is it about Sanders that makes you think he would succeed where Trump has failed?
Those rascally Millennials will take Bloomberg's money, bank Bloomberg's money, and meme for Bernie online.
What does it all mean? If the Dems can't swallow their pride and get behind Sanders, Trump will win.Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Steve in Greensboro
It’s not that he wants to prevent Bernie from winning. He wants to be able to spend 100s of millions on attack ads.. against Trump. Same with Steyer.
For a lot of smart but blue pill people, millenials especially, you hear often about how European social democracies have less crime, better public transport, great access to healthcare, better public education and so on. Most of the people who support Sanders are hoping to make America more like (an idealized version) of Sweden.
I never liked Sanders, but when I heard him propose national rent control, I made up my mind to hold my nose and vote for Trump again. I don’t want America to turn into a giant version of the Bronx ca. 1979.
The sad tale of a young Black man, with an uncontroversial name, being shot dead.
George | Mike Bloomberg for President
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yp0yN8UxVg
This appears to be the George Kemp Jr story, but I am not sure.
Witnesses told deputies they were riding with Kemp in Kemp’s vehicle. Kemp drove to... confront Brandon Lacour over a personal matter. Kemp parked down the street from Lacour’s residence and called him on his cell phone, challenging Lacour, 17, to a fight. ...
... One of Lacour’s passengers was carrying a hand gun. Witnesses told deputies that Lacour told the subject with the gun to shoot George Kemp, which he did.
https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/fortbend/news/article/Suspect-sought-in-Richmond-murder-case-9535443.php
Mike Bloomberg's very tall girlfriend Diane Taylor
Diana Taylor Addresses Her And Bloomberg's Height Difference (PHOTOS)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/diana-taylor-bloomberg-do_n_807031
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Taylor_(superintendent)
Bloomberg has never had a pet: Mike Bloomberg's Doesn't... Get Dogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnAfIQo9E_cReplies: @Jack D, @Ragno
First time I’ve ever seen anyone, pol or not, shake hands with a dog’s face. Jeez, and I thought Nixon was awkward with pets.
Correction. It is not “Jeb!” but rather “¡Jeb!”
Socialism was very unpopular in the post-WW II era when the lives of ordinary Americans were getting better. These days the lives of Americans who were in the country before 1965 is getting worse, and has been getting worse for several decades. That makes capitalism look very bad, and makes people more willing to try an alternative.
You may be correct that Sanders’ socialism will destroy his candidacy at some point. But unless the candidates espousing capitalism can come up with something better than lower wages, increased housing prices, tax cuts for the rich funded by massive deficits and perpetual wars, at some point America will turn to some form of socialism.
Just because your life is (relatively) shitty now (and in fact compared to most countries Americans have it pretty good even at present) doesn't mean that socialism can't make it worse - a lot worse. The Communists used to say "you have nothing to lose but your chains" but the average American has a lot more than chains to lose. Even if you have no net worth and only a job at Starbucks you still have a job and socialism is going to put your job in danger or else the purchasing power of your paycheck. The poor in Venezuela now are literally starving.Replies: @Prof. Woland, @Jonathan Mason
Ed Clark, the 1980 Libertarian candidate, was derided as a "low-tax liberal". Likewise, Bernie is more of a "high-tax capitalist". Well, no, not precisely, because a capitalist, literally, is one in the game, not the one in the stands rooting.
But Sanders wants to put sandbags on the balloon, not ground it for good.
His most socialist position was "Medicare for all". Not a National Health Service.
Biden and Bloomie hit none of those, I'd wager your friend at 1000:1 odds that neither will be the Democratic nominee. Biden is clearly slipping over into senility and doesn't have the Pokemon points to get the media protection Hillary got, while Bloomie is a clearly egotistical Jew billionaire. If you or your friend think either one has a shot at the nomination, I've got a bridge to sell you.Replies: @Mr McKenna, @bigdicknick, @Kronos, @bomag, @SunBakedSuburb
Is there any indication of voters preferring certain types of billionaires over others? I suspect many supported Trump on account of his real estate background. That billionaires which established their wealth via hedge funds/finance are the most despised.
Of course, with a billion dollars you can do whatever you want with your life, so Trump's bombastic attitude won a bunch of people over. I could see Bloomberg winning the suburban vote (he's a lot more accomplished than Beto after all), but the wokies don't want a white guy (parentheses don't count for them) and the blue-collar CORE WHITE AMERICA (to quote Charles Pewitt) people see him coming to take their guns away (as he has said himself ad nauseam).
Billionaires have long had no shot: a one-off win by a uniquely conniving, TV showman "billionaire" against one of the most incompetent and disliked legacy politicians in history likely changes nothing about that for the rest.
Setting aside the non-Jewish name, Klobuchar is a 10 out of 10 on my personal Slav-o-meter – maybe it’s possible to look more Slavic, but I wouldn’t know how.
I think millenials like grumpy old people with one foot in the grave who are past giving a crap and say whatever they want. It’s the perceived authenticity. He, sort of like Trump, is the antithesis to Hillary and Romney types who always say focus grouped things and have the proper mainstream opinions. They want to see flaws so they can easier believe they are seeing the real person and not some packaged product full of sham marketing.
I am a younger millennial, and I can attest that my generation is A) very ignorant of history and B) would rather put the blame for their own life failures on the “system” then take personal accountability for their terrible life decisions like getting massively indebted for an English or X Studies degree instead of studying something employable like STEM or learning a trade, business, etc. The new trend is to call the US a dystopia. (Holiday In Cambodia plays in my mind when hearing this.) On point A), often they have had professors fill them with communist propaganda. Even in the universities I attended in the Southeast this was a major problem.
I am absolutely horrified of the prospect of my generation taking over. We are essentially Calhoun’s “beautiful ones.” I hope these internet rumors of Gen-Z being more right-wing end up being true or the West is done. My generation won’t put up a fight for themselves. Lots of them hate themselves because of historical guilt. My hope, to quote Gandalf, is to “look to the East.” (Slavs)
Klobuchar is in 6th place in the latest poll of Dem candidates, sitting at 5%. What do you mean she has a chance of getting the nomination? She has zero chance. She’s running worse than Kamala Harris did, and look where Harris is now–out of the race. Klobuchar has never run higher in the polls than she is now. Implying that she’s likely to get the nomination is remarkably bad judgement.
She was sunk when Dems read the story about how Klobuchar is worse to her staff than anyone else in congress, and how she screams at and berates her staffers all the time. Dems won’t back a person like that. She’s been #MeTooed, or the equivalent thereof.
Donald Trump’s favorite movie is Bloodsport,
About mixed martial arts, a real stud sport.
Trial courts are the sports loved by Bloomberg.
His favorite film? Judgement at Nu’emberg.
https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/an-oral-history-of-trumps-love-of-van-dammes-bloodsport
There are lots of Americans, especially young ones, who love how socialism feels. It feels equal, and fair, and diverse, and caring because government will finally focus on making sure everyone gets what they need and nobody gets to keep too much. It’s utopia!
But you’re right, they have no idea how it turns out. In Communist Romania, the party boss who ran the whole thing was Nicolae Ceaușescu. When they finally overthrow the guy, the people of Romania are disgusted by the wealth he displays in his dacha – forty tons of seed corn he uses to feed deer. Such wealth! How can one man keep this all to himself! It’s pathetic.
That’s exactly what will happen in America under socialism. It will take a while to use up America’s wealth, but that’s what will happen.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/jeffrey-epstein-extremely-hairy-and-sweatyHahaha. A little late for Bloomberg, personality-wise. One is mostly either born brash and roguish or not. Young Trump was sent to military school for being brash and roguish.Wut? He’s going to advocate arming teachers and staff?—Unlikely, if that’s what the above actually means by mentioning the 2nd Amendment. Maybe Steve edited his friend writing “[fuck] the 2nd amendment…”.So: Pro-gun people won’t vote for him, and blacks won’t vote for him. Win-win.Judge Judy’s best talent is being good at giving public insults, something she shares with Trump. OTOH, Bloomberg, besides making bank, so far is only good at looking quietly sinister (see MORE below).Nope. Michael Bloomberg is both the Eldon Tyrell and the Overlook Bartender of the 2020 campaign.
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If you’ll allow me one more infamous movie character connection: Bloomberg looks like a guy who is so uncomfortable that he’d be willing to commit serial murder in order to obtain enough skin to sew himself a bodysuit.
We all know how it turns out. Caught at the marina trying to get away on his corporate yacht, or maybe at the commercial airport trying to board a plane to Brazil. Getting on his corporate jet at the private airport. Something like that.
That's what Bloomberg looks like, a midseason perp on LAO.Replies: @J.Ross, @Pericles
She’s anti-BDS and seems to get on well with the Minnesota Jewish community, but I don’t see any evidence she’s Jewish herself.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/5-jewish-things-about-2020-presidential-candidate-amy-klobuchar/
I doubt it as far as ‘source of the money’ goes.
Of course, with a billion dollars you can do whatever you want with your life, so Trump’s bombastic attitude won a bunch of people over. I could see Bloomberg winning the suburban vote (he’s a lot more accomplished than Beto after all), but the wokies don’t want a white guy (parentheses don’t count for them) and the blue-collar CORE WHITE AMERICA (to quote Charles Pewitt) people see him coming to take their guns away (as he has said himself ad nauseam).
What is up with these damn people in Minnesota, can’t get enough of Jews and Africans.
I think they don’t like them all, Trump is the first supposed billionaire to have won. I don’t think people much like real estate guys either, but the veneer of business competence imparted by the careful editing of his reality TV show probably helped with a significant section of the Republican vote.
Billionaires have long had no shot: a one-off win by a uniquely conniving, TV showman “billionaire” against one of the most incompetent and disliked legacy politicians in history likely changes nothing about that for the rest.
Klobuchar is the sleeper. She is female and Jewish, and she is flying under the radar while Warren crashes and the party/media attack Bernie.
As has been pointed out, Klobuchar is in no shape manner or form Jewish. She has as much chance as Andrew Yang i.e. none whatsoever. The reason she is flying under the radar is because she is beneath notice.
Biden and Bloomie hit none of those, I'd wager your friend at 1000:1 odds that neither will be the Democratic nominee. Biden is clearly slipping over into senility and doesn't have the Pokemon points to get the media protection Hillary got, while Bloomie is a clearly egotistical Jew billionaire. If you or your friend think either one has a shot at the nomination, I've got a bridge to sell you.Replies: @Mr McKenna, @bigdicknick, @Kronos, @bomag, @SunBakedSuburb
Dunno. Outside Barack, Hillary was mainstream, overall; John Kerry; Al Gore; Bubba; Dukakis; Mondale; all pretty standard.
Very well, waddling beneath the radar then.
Obviously he will never be the nominee because he successfully kept crime down and quality of life up in NYC by aggressively policing POCs, and that's a red line for progressives. I suppose perhaps he thinks that by airing hundreds of millions in campaign ads he's softening up Trump for the eventual Dem nominee, but I have doubts about how effective that will actually be.Replies: @Forbes
I wonder, when do progressives point out that Bloomberg was never elected mayor as a Democrat.
He was first elected, and re-elected, as a Republican–riding Rudy Giuliani’s coattails, so to speak. The third time (having gone to court to abrogate the City Charter two-term limit) he was elected as an Independent.
Although Bloomberg was on Wall St. early in his career, his real source of wealth was as a data service provider (admittedly to the financial industry) so he is more of a tech billionaire than a Wall St. billionaire.
The most interesting thing about the popularity black hole that is anti-candidate Bloomberg is that he actually has the proven political ability and the credible experience to be a successful candidate and maybe even a good president, but he is choosing out of ideological cultishness to destroy his campaign.
People just don't like New Yorkers, and with good reason: they're unlikable. Even Trump's "celebrity" had nothing to do with being popular ("You're Fired!", really?). Again, running against an even worse person (and in some sense a fellow New Yorker) did the job.
You may be correct that Sanders’ socialism will destroy his candidacy at some point. But unless the candidates espousing capitalism can come up with something better than lower wages, increased housing prices, tax cuts for the rich funded by massive deficits and perpetual wars, at some point America will turn to some form of socialism.Replies: @Jack D, @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @MBlanc46, @Jonathan Mason
Look, I’ve seen this movie before. The lower classes of Venezuela were dissatisfied with capitalism and with their lot in life and so they decided to give socialism a chance. And you know how that turned out for them.
Just because your life is (relatively) shitty now (and in fact compared to most countries Americans have it pretty good even at present) doesn’t mean that socialism can’t make it worse – a lot worse. The Communists used to say “you have nothing to lose but your chains” but the average American has a lot more than chains to lose. Even if you have no net worth and only a job at Starbucks you still have a job and socialism is going to put your job in danger or else the purchasing power of your paycheck. The poor in Venezuela now are literally starving.
You may be correct that Sanders’ socialism will destroy his candidacy at some point. But unless the candidates espousing capitalism can come up with something better than lower wages, increased housing prices, tax cuts for the rich funded by massive deficits and perpetual wars, at some point America will turn to some form of socialism.Replies: @Jack D, @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @MBlanc46, @Jonathan Mason
If only people knew why this is happening.
Repeat after me: Immigration and foreign trade. Immigration and foreign trade. Immigration and foreign trade…
Now say this: Cheap labor. Cheap labor. Cheap labor…
What works is capitalism in which Citizens are protected by a government that respects their labor. When there are billions of people outside your country who would just love to work for less than you do, you cannot enjoy the fruits of capitalism without competing against them until a state of equilibrium is reached — unless your government draws a line around you, called a border, and protects your wages from international scabs.
Capitalism works in America, for Americans, as long as Americans are the ones working.
And by the way, Amy Klobuchar is not Jewish.
She's doomed in South Carolina:
Minneapolis NAACP, Black Lives Matter call on Klobuchar to suspend campaign
To them, she's a she-Bloomberg.
She's half-Swiss, but I can hardly see Mr Michele Bachmann endorsing her.
Trump manages to make all publicity, good publicity. As long as Bloomberg spells the president’s name correctly, bring it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szjWjaDFP9U
It’s the comb thing people remember Wolfowitz licking his comb before combing his hair and figured doing weird things with a comb was a Jewish trait . Klobuchar ate a salad with her comb , weird use of a comb hence Jewess . It’s perfectly logical .
https://www.timesofisrael.com/5-jewish-things-about-2020-presidential-candidate-amy-klobuchar/Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @anon
Understood. Thanks.
It doesn’t matter which one winds the nomination. As long as they represent brand democrat( anti-white, pro-sodomy, pro-war, anti-rule of law), they are all interchangeable. There is no superstar like Obama to pull in fence sitters or apolitical voters.
A lot of Obama voters really enjoyed feeling like part of a wave of newness and change, his actual policies beside the point. People believed in a post racial America then.
As has been pointed out, Klobuchar is in no shape manner or form Jewish. She has as much chance as Andrew Yang i.e. none whatsoever. The reason she is flying under the radar is because she is beneath notice.Replies: @Desiderius, @Kevin O'Keeffe
She’s from the McCain wing of the establishment and McCain was under the radar at this point too in ’08.
Klobuchar, by contrast, is a complete unknown.Replies: @istevefan
I don’t see how Bloomberg has much of a chance – not if he plans on running a Rudy Giuliani-style campaign for the presidency in which he waits for Super Tuesday before soliciting for votes in earnest.
Like Bloomberg is doing this year, Giuliani also decided to skip the early states in the 2008 GOP primary. Rudy didn’t have Bloomberg’s money, but he had excellent name recognition and a decent war chest. Yet he was largely forgotten by the time Florida’s primary rolled around.
Bloomberg is currently doing okay in national polls. And that’s putting a positive spin on it. He’s a distant fourth at 8 percent after spending $100 million in ads.
But he’s nowhere in Iowa (1 percent in the poll of polls), nowhere in New Hampshire (0 percent), nowhere in Nevada (0 percent) and just barely above nowhere in South Carolina (2.5 percent).
Those are the first four states to vote before Super Tuesday!
Does Bloomberg really believe his money will win him the nomination when the winning Democrats candidates coming out of those four states – whoever they may be – will be battled-tested and getting all the free and fawning media coverage? Good luck with that, Bloomberg.
Consequently, anyone who can limp into the convention with some delegates and some claim to a popular following may get at least a kingmaker role at the convention, if not a shot at the nomination itself. And this dynamic tends to become a self-fulfilling prophecy as candidates have no reason to drop out (and hence will continue to split the vote) so long as a brokered convention appears possible.Replies: @Pincher Martin
What he does believe is that his ad buys will pull votes away from Donald Trump, and that may be the real reason for them.
Apparently Trump really doesn’t fit into the machine, and there are people on all sides of it who want him out. Bloomberg, Romney, Clintons, Bushes… and on. Dems, Repubs and nudniks all want him gone.
Bloomberg has no constituency. The ads of his which I have seen are either about himself (e.g., his accomplishments, his policies, etc.) or about global warming.
If those kinds of massive ad buys can't boost Bloomberg's candidacy into the double digits in a weak Democratic field right now, they certainly won't have the residual effect of reducing the Trump's re-election chances in an election which is many months from now.Replies: @Jack D, @istevefan
Bloomberg is going to fight against GUNS. Against the GUN LOBBY. Against GUN VIOLENCE. In favor of GUN SAFETY. See his upcoming Superbowl Ad, which features a black mother who lost her son to GUNS. A GUN sneaked up on him and shot him dead. See above.
But he is not going to mention GUNMEN, just GUNS. You can be sure of that. GUNMAN draws the wrong picture, if you know what I mean.Replies: @istevefan, @yaqub the mad scientist
In 2013, Mayor Bloomberg suggested that Whites are stopped too often by the stop-and-frisk policy.
Of course he was correct in 2013, but I’d sure like to see him defend that statement to the coalition of the fringes.
I doubt they will have any impact at all. They appeal to people who already don’t like Donald Trump.
Bloomberg has no constituency. The ads of his which I have seen are either about himself (e.g., his accomplishments, his policies, etc.) or about global warming.
If those kinds of massive ad buys can’t boost Bloomberg’s candidacy into the double digits in a weak Democratic field right now, they certainly won’t have the residual effect of reducing the Trump’s re-election chances in an election which is many months from now.
But those ads will hurt the democrats too. With all the money he is dumping into advertising, surely he is helping to push the cost of advertising in those markets up, thus making it more expensive for the less well-off democrats to run their ads. This too would make it more expensive for Trump to run his ads, but Trump now has the power of the presidency to deliver his messages so it won't affect him as much in that respect.Replies: @Pincher Martin
Another point I should add is that in skipping Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada, Bloomberg is also bypassing three swing states in the November general election. How wise is that?
And he’s already insulted two of those states when he called them too white to be appropriate early voting states for the Democratic nomination. Bloomberg might think Iowa and New Hampshire are too white, but come November, if he is the Democratic nominee, he will want their electoral votes.
Lucky for Bloomberg, I don’t think it will matter. I just don’t see him winning the nomination.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-50507433
It's really strange - in my neighborhood, knives mostly stay in the drawer (unless they are being used to cut up food) and guns stay in their safes, but in black neighborhoods they go out on their own like the brooms in the Sorcerer's Apprentice and commit crimes. Gun crimes. Knife crimes. You read about them all the time. Those guns are committing crimes left and right in Philly - it's an epidemic. Every day a gun kills someone in Philly. In London, it's a "knife epidemic" - says so right in the article.
They are really hard to catch. When the cops show up and ask if anyone saw a gun shoot the victim, who is lying right there dead in the street, nobody saw nothing. I myself have been to West Philly many times and never once did I see a gun walking down the street. I don't even know how they do it, since they don't have legs. The ghetto is where the real Magic Dirt must be.Replies: @fish, @Hypnotoad666
LOL button not LOLing! Nevertheless LOL must be offered for the Sorcerers Apprentice reference if nothing else!
https://youtu.be/BButFsAikH8
Jude Judy Sheindlin January 2020, “Mike Bloomberg will unite our country”:
https://youtu.be/zQpqjdDB_l4
Judys “endorsement” runs during the mid show commercial break of her daily boob tube court show.
Finally, a friend forwarded me this text from her ~12 year old child:
https://flic.kr/p/2iniobqReplies: @SunBakedSuburb
Trump is a cartoon character, of course he appeals to kids.
Yes, exactly. Stuff like that is toxic in a Dem primary in the Current Year. Blacks are not exactly overflowing with love for Jews as it is.
Bloomberg has no constituency. The ads of his which I have seen are either about himself (e.g., his accomplishments, his policies, etc.) or about global warming.
If those kinds of massive ad buys can't boost Bloomberg's candidacy into the double digits in a weak Democratic field right now, they certainly won't have the residual effect of reducing the Trump's re-election chances in an election which is many months from now.Replies: @Jack D, @istevefan
His Superbowl ad is about getting rid of guns. It shows a black mother whose son was hunted down and killed by a handgun. Therefore, let’s get rid of rifles. That will be sure to sway many Trump voters.
But none of that hurts Trump.Replies: @Jack D
I really hope they don't, then. The thought of a Sanders presidency turns my stomach.Replies: @Blecch, @Prof. Woland
This might shape up to the a contest between the poor latecomer Eastern European peasant Jew Sanders and the successful established Orthodox German Jew Bloomberg. Like the country mouse vs. the city mouse.
Orthodox and German. No and no. Bloomberg seems to be largely non-practicing - his wife/girlfriend (BTW he would be the 1st president with a live in girlfriend instead of a wife) are not Jewish, his children were not raised as Jews, etc. Although he has not severed his links with Judaism, he is anything but Orthodox.
Bloomberg's ancestors were from E. Europe, not Germany.
Although Sanders does not have Bloomberg's money, their background as secular Jews descended from Ellis Island immigrants who grew up in modest circumstances (Sanders in Brooklyn, Bloomberg in Brighton near Boston) but made good is quite similar - there is no real tension there.
Just because your life is (relatively) shitty now (and in fact compared to most countries Americans have it pretty good even at present) doesn't mean that socialism can't make it worse - a lot worse. The Communists used to say "you have nothing to lose but your chains" but the average American has a lot more than chains to lose. Even if you have no net worth and only a job at Starbucks you still have a job and socialism is going to put your job in danger or else the purchasing power of your paycheck. The poor in Venezuela now are literally starving.Replies: @Prof. Woland, @Jonathan Mason
I have always suspected that part of the attraction to Socialism / Communism for some is not the material gains but the social ones. If you can increase your position on the hierarchy, you get power and status even if that translates into a small apartment and a shitty car. It does not matter how much stuff you own, only that you have more than the other guy.
Biden and Bloomie hit none of those, I'd wager your friend at 1000:1 odds that neither will be the Democratic nominee. Biden is clearly slipping over into senility and doesn't have the Pokemon points to get the media protection Hillary got, while Bloomie is a clearly egotistical Jew billionaire. If you or your friend think either one has a shot at the nomination, I've got a bridge to sell you.Replies: @Mr McKenna, @bigdicknick, @Kronos, @bomag, @SunBakedSuburb
“communists like Bernie”
Bernie describes himself as a democratic socialist. Having lived in Denmark for a few years I would point out that Scandinavian democratic socialism has its pluses and minuses but is essentially egalitarian. So normally I would’ve disagreed with you on the grouchy old Jew. But the left of North America and Northern Europe has taken a degenerating dive into Globalism, which is really a variant of totalitarianism. If Bernie is given more political power he will become a tool of this authoritarian system. Following the EU’s lead.
Yep. It’s the typical appeal to Democratic voters, which Bloomberg needs to do in the Democratic Primary since he’s never been a typical Democrat.
But none of that hurts Trump.
Bloomberg is George Jetson. Bernie is Fred Flintstone.
Biden is Barney Rubble.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/jeffrey-epstein-extremely-hairy-and-sweatyHahaha. A little late for Bloomberg, personality-wise. One is mostly either born brash and roguish or not. Young Trump was sent to military school for being brash and roguish.Wut? He’s going to advocate arming teachers and staff?—Unlikely, if that’s what the above actually means by mentioning the 2nd Amendment. Maybe Steve edited his friend writing “[fuck] the 2nd amendment…”.So: Pro-gun people won’t vote for him, and blacks won’t vote for him. Win-win.Judge Judy’s best talent is being good at giving public insults, something she shares with Trump. OTOH, Bloomberg, besides making bank, so far is only good at looking quietly sinister (see MORE below).Nope. Michael Bloomberg is both the Eldon Tyrell and the Overlook Bartender of the 2020 campaign.
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Ridley Scott’s vaguely human Eldon Tyrell is scarier than Kubrick’s spectral Overlook Bartender.
“The American people will never elect a socialist.”
The American people elected FDR four times.
I tend to automatically assume anyone white from Minnesota is a goy unless the person is really weird, really overexposed, or both. The gang never had a good set-up going in the Upper Midwest, or there’s something triggering about those states. Was this the web site where one commenter was musing about how Jews would probably enjoy living in MI/MN/WI, and then someone else immediately replied with “Stop, don’t let them find that out”
Rudy, Chris Christie, and Jerry Brown are figures who look good at home, from afar, but even many of whose supporters wouldn’t want in the White House.
South Dakotans wanted George McGovern on one end of Pennsylvania Avenue, not the other.
Add to that the fact that Iowans and New Hampshiremen have the choice of a popular senatrix from a neighboring state, whose volunteers and staff are ready to lend a hand. Hell, New Hampshire has two neighbor senators to choose from.
Oh, and that South Carolina is a black state (and Nevada Hispanic) as far as the Democrats are concerned.
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She’s Melania, without the looks or the accent.
That’s arguably worse than Jewish.
She’s doomed in South Carolina:
Minneapolis NAACP, Black Lives Matter call on Klobuchar to suspend campaign
To them, she’s a she-Bloomberg.
She’s half-Swiss, but I can hardly see Mr Michele Bachmann endorsing her.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-50507433
It's really strange - in my neighborhood, knives mostly stay in the drawer (unless they are being used to cut up food) and guns stay in their safes, but in black neighborhoods they go out on their own like the brooms in the Sorcerer's Apprentice and commit crimes. Gun crimes. Knife crimes. You read about them all the time. Those guns are committing crimes left and right in Philly - it's an epidemic. Every day a gun kills someone in Philly. In London, it's a "knife epidemic" - says so right in the article.
They are really hard to catch. When the cops show up and ask if anyone saw a gun shoot the victim, who is lying right there dead in the street, nobody saw nothing. I myself have been to West Philly many times and never once did I see a gun walking down the street. I don't even know how they do it, since they don't have legs. The ghetto is where the real Magic Dirt must be.Replies: @fish, @Hypnotoad666
I think this is a good policy. If you want to kill someone you should do it with a knife. Up close and personal. That’s the honest way to do it. Gun violence is just plain lazy.
McCain wasn’t flying the under the radar in early 2008. He was still suffering from self-inflicted wounds in the immigration fight. But he rallied that year after Giuliani imploded and Romney couldn’t put Huckabee away.
Klobuchar, by contrast, is a complete unknown.
The break occurred at Obama.
Hillary got some traction because vagina (and legacy scheming). Obama suggested strongly that Gaffemaster Joe not make the attempt and as of today it looks like Joe might have done well to heed that advice.
Going forward TEAM EVIL will need to put up nothing but odder and odder Wokemon combinations of candidates plucked from higher and higher elevations on the “Hierarchy of Victims”™ so as to stimulate the slack jawed nitwits who make up their base!
Those rascally Millennials will take Bloomberg's money, bank Bloomberg's money, and meme for Bernie online.
What does it all mean? If the Dems can't swallow their pride and get behind Sanders, Trump will win.Replies: @Cloudbuster, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Steve in Greensboro
Dem politics is all about threading the identity politics needle to unite Steve Sailer’s “coalition of the fringes”.
Bernie is a trap for the Dems, because he could conceivably could win the nomination, but there is no way he could win the general. There is no way an elderly Jew with heart problems will get the non-Asian minorities to turn out in the general and without them Trump’s reelection is a racing certainty.
The DNC knows this and so they will stage manage the nomination process to make Bernie go away. Mini-Mike is a non-starter for most of the the same reasons. Mayor Pete is a trap like Bernie. Biden is suffering from senile dementia. The more people see of Pocahontas the less they like her.
So who’s left? I don’t think Michelle O wants to step into the ring. Too much work. My guess is that they will draft Hillary. Which will of course be a disaster for the party.
Power is a seductive thing. As long as she’s friends with Valerie Jarrett, she must face the temptation. And how hard did Barack really work? In bed by 9:00 reading memos with multiple choice replies already included? No serious politicking with Congress.
Michelle is the only person I can think of that would defeat Trump in a landslide. Unlike Trump, she’d have a full staff of experienced professionals on Day One. And she could delegate anything she didn’t want to do to Barack. (“Honey, would you mind meeting with the Joint Chiefs on Tuesday? I have a hair appointment.”)
https://www.unz.com/isteve/jeffrey-epstein-extremely-hairy-and-sweatyHahaha. A little late for Bloomberg, personality-wise. One is mostly either born brash and roguish or not. Young Trump was sent to military school for being brash and roguish.Wut? He’s going to advocate arming teachers and staff?—Unlikely, if that’s what the above actually means by mentioning the 2nd Amendment. Maybe Steve edited his friend writing “[fuck] the 2nd amendment…”.So: Pro-gun people won’t vote for him, and blacks won’t vote for him. Win-win.Judge Judy’s best talent is being good at giving public insults, something she shares with Trump. OTOH, Bloomberg, besides making bank, so far is only good at looking quietly sinister (see MORE below).Nope. Michael Bloomberg is both the Eldon Tyrell and the Overlook Bartender of the 2020 campaign.
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Don’t diss the great Joe Turkel!
https://www.counter-currents.com/2019/10/six-degrees-of-joe-turkel/
Makes sense, right? Anyway, Donald Trump is our first Jewish president, so it’s not like Klobuchar would be breaking any kosher ceilings.
As has been pointed out, Klobuchar is in no shape manner or form Jewish. She has as much chance as Andrew Yang i.e. none whatsoever. The reason she is flying under the radar is because she is beneath notice.Replies: @Desiderius, @Kevin O'Keeffe
The Kobe’s been hopeless, but things change, and she’s doing very well in recent Iowa polling. I predict she’ll finish in the top three ie., ahead of Warren and Buttigieg.
Klobuchar, by contrast, is a complete unknown.Replies: @istevefan
If I recall correctly, McCain did not rally back so much as his campaign was resuscitated by the MSM who wanted him to be the nominee. Of course once he was the nominee their love for him vanished. And since he was never a real favorite of the GOP base due in part to his support for amnesty in 2006 and 7, it set up a situation where the GOP once again had a guy the base did not want.
Yes, the MSM loved McCain - at least until he ran against Obama. But McCain's biography appealed to a lot of GOP voters and he used those voters to resuscitate his campaign when a couple of the other strong GOP candidates couldn't put him away.
Some voters prefer a good story and an interesting character over good policies. McCain used that to his benefit.Replies: @Desiderius, @istevefan
You may be correct that Sanders’ socialism will destroy his candidacy at some point. But unless the candidates espousing capitalism can come up with something better than lower wages, increased housing prices, tax cuts for the rich funded by massive deficits and perpetual wars, at some point America will turn to some form of socialism.Replies: @Jack D, @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @MBlanc46, @Jonathan Mason
I will never accept this view, pro or con, of Sanders as a “socialist” until he proposes to nationalize Ben & Jerry’s.
Ed Clark, the 1980 Libertarian candidate, was derided as a “low-tax liberal”. Likewise, Bernie is more of a “high-tax capitalist”. Well, no, not precisely, because a capitalist, literally, is one in the game, not the one in the stands rooting.
But Sanders wants to put sandbags on the balloon, not ground it for good.
His most socialist position was “Medicare for all”. Not a National Health Service.
No NYC mayor has been elected President since Teddy Roosevelt, despite the executive experience and political savvy called for to get that office. Same with NY governors, I can’t recall the last one elected President.
People just don’t like New Yorkers, and with good reason: they’re unlikable. Even Trump’s “celebrity” had nothing to do with being popular (“You’re Fired!”, really?). Again, running against an even worse person (and in some sense a fellow New Yorker) did the job.
If the MSM had that kind of power, then Donald Trump wouldn’t be president.
Yes, the MSM loved McCain – at least until he ran against Obama. But McCain’s biography appealed to a lot of GOP voters and he used those voters to resuscitate his campaign when a couple of the other strong GOP candidates couldn’t put him away.
Some voters prefer a good story and an interesting character over good policies. McCain used that to his benefit.
There was still hope in ‘08. Their treatment of Palin did them a lot of damage as well.
For normal candidates the MSM still pretty much has their way.Replies: @Pincher Martin
Bloomberg has no constituency. The ads of his which I have seen are either about himself (e.g., his accomplishments, his policies, etc.) or about global warming.
If those kinds of massive ad buys can't boost Bloomberg's candidacy into the double digits in a weak Democratic field right now, they certainly won't have the residual effect of reducing the Trump's re-election chances in an election which is many months from now.Replies: @Jack D, @istevefan
Bloomberg’s ads can definitely hurt Trump if it results in Trump losing a few votes in those key Great Lake States. The margins were so thin in those places that Trump can’t afford to lose any support.
But those ads will hurt the democrats too. With all the money he is dumping into advertising, surely he is helping to push the cost of advertising in those markets up, thus making it more expensive for the less well-off democrats to run their ads. This too would make it more expensive for Trump to run his ads, but Trump now has the power of the presidency to deliver his messages so it won’t affect him as much in that respect.
Social democracy is breaking down in Sweden itself as they have let in more Muslim immigrants. The Syrian refugees can’t believe their good luck. They can increase their standard of living maybe 400% just by living on welfare and raping Swedish women. Why bother working?
Social democracy worked there for so long as they had a homogeneous, high trust society. America never had that to begin with and we sure don’t have that now.
Bernie is a trap for the Dems, because he could conceivably could win the nomination, but there is no way he could win the general. There is no way an elderly Jew with heart problems will get the non-Asian minorities to turn out in the general and without them Trump's reelection is a racing certainty.
The DNC knows this and so they will stage manage the nomination process to make Bernie go away. Mini-Mike is a non-starter for most of the the same reasons. Mayor Pete is a trap like Bernie. Biden is suffering from senile dementia. The more people see of Pocahontas the less they like her.
So who's left? I don't think Michelle O wants to step into the ring. Too much work. My guess is that they will draft Hillary. Which will of course be a disaster for the party.Replies: @Jack D, @Paul Mendez, @HammerJack
I really don’t see any groundswell for Hillary. She would love it but no one else would. She was a lousy candidate 4 years ago and has not gotten any better.
But those ads will hurt the democrats too. With all the money he is dumping into advertising, surely he is helping to push the cost of advertising in those markets up, thus making it more expensive for the less well-off democrats to run their ads. This too would make it more expensive for Trump to run his ads, but Trump now has the power of the presidency to deliver his messages so it won't affect him as much in that respect.Replies: @Pincher Martin
They won’t have any effect. You’re assuming that money spent on campaign ads is cumulative over time, but where’s the evidence for that? How can you prove that money spent in January, February, March, April, May, June, and July affects the outcome of a Presidential campaign in November in any way?
It’s never been true before, so why would you think it’s true now?
Right now, the Democrats running in Iowa and New Hampshire aren’t even thinking about Bloomberg at all. Why attack someone who can’t even raise a pulse in an Iowa or New Hampshire poll?
And whoever wins those two states will garner more media attention than Bloomberg could buy with a billion dollars.
It’s funny how you think Bloomberg’s money will have some sort of decisive long-term effect on the general election when we can’t even see it gives Bloomberg a minimal short-term effect in the primaries he needs to win.
Yes, the MSM loved McCain - at least until he ran against Obama. But McCain's biography appealed to a lot of GOP voters and he used those voters to resuscitate his campaign when a couple of the other strong GOP candidates couldn't put him away.
Some voters prefer a good story and an interesting character over good policies. McCain used that to his benefit.Replies: @Desiderius, @istevefan
Obama destroyed that power.
There was still hope in ‘08. Their treatment of Palin did them a lot of damage as well.
But none of that hurts Trump.Replies: @Jack D
BTW, Bloomberg was the Republican mayor of NY, when Trump was a registered Democrat. NY politics is weird – party affiliation means nothing. If Bloomberg runs against Trump you’ll have a Republican on the Democrat ticket and a Democrat on the Republican ticket.
Srpski Jeb.
This is likely going to be an election in which the Dems never decisively coalesce on a single candidate before their convention. As I’ve opined before a lot of factors are favoring this: including (a) the internet breaking the MSM’s monopoly to declare presumptive winners; (b) small-donor internet funding (Bernie) and billionaire self-funding (Bloomie and Steyer); (c) proportional award of delegates with a relatively low 15% vote threshold; and (d) no “super-delegate” votes on the first round.
Consequently, anyone who can limp into the convention with some delegates and some claim to a popular following may get at least a kingmaker role at the convention, if not a shot at the nomination itself. And this dynamic tends to become a self-fulfilling prophecy as candidates have no reason to drop out (and hence will continue to split the vote) so long as a brokered convention appears possible.
She’s a well-known bitch-on-wheels when not simpering and smiling for the cameras, so maybe that’s why some people think she’s Jewish — like people often mistakenly blame us for Joy Behar
Bloomberg can learn to be “brash, roguish and bold?” Steve’s friend is also probably out scouting white cornerbacks for his fantasy football team
https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/status/1223310014812524545?s=20
Father of GigachadReplies: @J.Ross
The people most excited about Communism are those who think they would be running the show. So, people who are good at talking, gossiping, scheming, social engineering and so forth. Under capitalism often you have to have skills to make money. Success under communism is more like a highschool popularity contest, and these people remember how good they used to be at that.
That’s what I meant. Bloomberg background was not typical for a Democratic candidate. Nor has he had a typical partisan evolution. He’s been all over the map. He’s been an independent at least once, a Democrat twice, and a Republican once.
Elizabeth Warren was also a Republican at one point in her life, but her transition to the Democratic side, which was a long time ago, was over with quick.
I haven’t followed all of Trump’s political permutations over the years, but voters don’t recall them as easily when you’re not an officeholder.
Yes, the MSM loved McCain - at least until he ran against Obama. But McCain's biography appealed to a lot of GOP voters and he used those voters to resuscitate his campaign when a couple of the other strong GOP candidates couldn't put him away.
Some voters prefer a good story and an interesting character over good policies. McCain used that to his benefit.Replies: @Desiderius, @istevefan
The MSM has that kind of power. Trump is a one-off force of nature. His success in battling the MSM is unique, but even he can’t overcome all of their attacks.
For normal candidates the MSM still pretty much has their way.
The MSM didn't make Romney a stiff Mormon nor did it make Rudy Giuliani run such a dumb campaign. McCain just got lucky (and the rest of us Republicans who didn't care for McCain got unlucky).
Nah. Bloomberg looks like the guy on “Law ‘N Order” who starts off cooperative but then gets all outraged at being interviewed by the cops about the strange crime that was committed in a warehouse that his shell corporation secretly controls. You know, the guy who pulls DYKWIA on the cops right about the 20 minute mark, then the cops go interview 2 or 3 other people.
We all know how it turns out. Caught at the marina trying to get away on his corporate yacht, or maybe at the commercial airport trying to board a plane to Brazil. Getting on his corporate jet at the private airport. Something like that.
That’s what Bloomberg looks like, a midseason perp on LAO.
Bloomberg is going to fight against GUNS. Against the GUN LOBBY. Against GUN VIOLENCE. In favor of GUN SAFETY. See his upcoming Superbowl Ad, which features a black mother who lost her son to GUNS. A GUN sneaked up on him and shot him dead. See above.
But he is not going to mention GUNMEN, just GUNS. You can be sure of that. GUNMAN draws the wrong picture, if you know what I mean.Replies: @istevefan, @yaqub the mad scientist
BTW, why do Democrat politicians always have to be called by nicknames
That’s simple. They’re the Jacobin party. Their war is the Left’s oldest and most fundamental- the struggle against all parochial ties. Surnames are symbols of the concentric ties that bind.
I didn’t realize Ericson and Volvo were owned by the state. My definition of socialism has the gov owning the means of production. Common mistake on your part to confuse a larger welfare state with socialism.
Millenials will really hate it when the US feds own Apple and start making IPhones.
Consequently, anyone who can limp into the convention with some delegates and some claim to a popular following may get at least a kingmaker role at the convention, if not a shot at the nomination itself. And this dynamic tends to become a self-fulfilling prophecy as candidates have no reason to drop out (and hence will continue to split the vote) so long as a brokered convention appears possible.Replies: @Pincher Martin
That’s easy to say but you don’t really know that.
I thought the same thing in 2016 when Trump was running. I figured his candidacy would be done in once the field of Republicans was narrowed. Never happened. He pretty much led from pillar to post.
So even if two Democratic candidates – let’s say Biden and Bernie – come out of the first four states tied for the lead with two states apiece, with a couple of other candidates – let’s say Warren and Buttigieg – sticking around for their egos, Bloomberg’s candidacy is unlikely to be rewarded.
First, Bloomberg will go into Super Tuesday without a single win. So even if Democrats fail to coalesce around single candidate by early March, Bloomberg will still be in a position where he has to sell himself as a winner when he has never won anything.
That’s a hard sell for anyone. What makes it even harder is that three of the four states Bloomberg decided to forego are swing states in November. The fourth is South Carolina, which although not a swing state is more competitive than Republicans would like.
Second, there is no current polling evidence that shows Bloomberg doing well in the Super Tuesday states, even after spending more than a hundred million dollars. He’s currently a distant fourth in national polls. And he is unlikely to climb, and most likely will drop, when he’s not being mentioned as one of the first few primary and caucus winners. So Bloomberg is selling the idea of his candidacy more than he is selling his actual candidacy.
Third, Bloomberg is not a natural campaigner or a social media innovator in the way Trump is. He’s not a retail politician, either. So you have to believe that Bloomberg can buy his way to the Democratic nomination by bulking up on TV ads. How likely is that to happen in 2020?
Can confirm.
Just saw another "Mike can get it done" advert. Thought for a second it was something else, like "If you ever used talcum powder" or "If you suffer from an obscure disease" ambulance chaser advert.
He still looks like a midseason perp on "Law 'N Order" too.
Third, Bloomberg is not a natural campaigner
Can confirm.
Just saw another “Mike can get it done” advert. Thought for a second it was something else, like “If you ever used talcum powder” or “If you suffer from an obscure disease” ambulance chaser advert.
He still looks like a midseason perp on “Law ‘N Order” too.
For normal candidates the MSM still pretty much has their way.Replies: @Pincher Martin
Well, in any case, the MSM was writing McCain’s candidacy off in the second half of 2007.
The MSM didn’t make Romney a stiff Mormon nor did it make Rudy Giuliani run such a dumb campaign. McCain just got lucky (and the rest of us Republicans who didn’t care for McCain got unlucky).
It won’t be a problem attacking Sanders. All the “free stuff” he’s promising will require massive tax hikes on the middle class. The rich aren’t rich enough. When voters realize that 50-70% of their income will be going to the various taxes to support the GND, “free” college, Medicare for All, reparations, millions of “refugees” and other 3rd worlders, Bernie won’t be so popular.
I live in MA and there is talk of hiking the gas tax in order to “combat climate change” and finance transportation infrastructure. Mind you, only half of that tax is going to transportation, I can’t seem to find out where the rest is going. So gas prices would end up at $5/gal at some point. We already some of the highest electricity prices because they refuse to run a pipeline. The reality is that they just want to force people out of cars, make it unaffordable for most. And you can bet that the increased infrastructure isn’t going deep into rural areas. Those people will be SOL. This is UN Agenda 21/30, “persuade” people to move into small urban apts where it’s more “sustainable”. So you take huge losses on your house, car, and freedom. And it’ll be impossible to reverse it because the state will take on massive debt to finance it all. That’s the scammy thing about green energy. Massive debt for something that doesn’t really work.
Here’s an article regarding Germany’s green deal debacle. 350,000 Germans power shut off, can’t pay bills.
https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/service/strom-350-000-haushalte-mit-stromsperre-a-1062889.html
Here’s one case that screwed over a whole Texas town.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/texas-towns-environmental-narcissism-makes-al-gore-happy-while-sticking-its-citizens-with-the-bill
We all know how it turns out. Caught at the marina trying to get away on his corporate yacht, or maybe at the commercial airport trying to board a plane to Brazil. Getting on his corporate jet at the private airport. Something like that.
That's what Bloomberg looks like, a midseason perp on LAO.Replies: @J.Ross, @Pericles
Agree, even accepting O’Meara’s point about the country disliking New Yorkers, Bloomberg manages to be singularly unlikeable even beyond that. But my point was, his record shows that he’s not a complete waste of time. Were he to actually run on that, his campaign wouldn’t be a total joke. But instead he’s repudiating the one thing that would qualify him.
Jacobinism is support for the return of (the Stuart) Monarchy, at its theoretical foundation (ie: in spite of anyone who wants to redefine it, which they have long-been doing).
Republicanism is revolution against hierarchy / monarchy, ie: liberalism (see the second parenthetical). Note the parallels between Republican revolutions and communist revolutions against Monarchs.
Its useful to not use terms that have been intentionally corrupted to mean their inverse.
The term meanings are inverted so that anyone who buys into the new definitions is prevented from winning over a long period of time, because they are using a model of the World that doesn’t reflect reality.
Jacobins were the far left of the French Revolution, and responsible for the French Terror. The word's been revived to mean a far-lefty, and is the name of a socialist magazine.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
You are confused.
Jacobins in France:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobin
Jacobites in Scotland
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobitism
Extra credit: Jacobites in history
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobite
A billion dollars will buy a lot of negative adds but that having been said, I suspect a billion dollars (although Trump spent far less) in the hands of a populist Republican will go a lot further than a billion in the hands of a Democrat of any stripe if for no other reason that Bloomberg’s commercials will look and say exactly what all the networks and political commercials are saying now only they have a picture of him on there instead of the usual female minority. I suspect a billion in Bernie’s hands would also have a greater impact because he would use them to taut single payer or some such, something that might have some popular appeal but runs counter to major economical interests. With Trump, he was able to combine the ability to bypass the mainstream media and immigration reform / restriction and that alone set him apart from the background noise.
There's a steep diminishing return to this kind of propaganda. At some point early in the advertisement deluge, everyone's eyes will glaze over and it will just become background noise. It may even become a source for resentment and create a backlash that Trump can use to his political benefit.
In either case, I see no evidence that Bloomberg's great wealth and media background has made him any smarter than the average Joe would be in deploying his billions toward a political project. The man has already spent a huge pile of money for his own campaign and yet he stands at a measly eight percent in national polls. He's also much lower than eight percent in the early states that matter most to the outcome of the Democratic nomination, which suggests that at least some of his national support is among those people who haven't tuned in to the election yet. In other words, it's soft support.I think money helps to a certain degree, but after a candidate reaches that threshold it's not of much additional use. Once a candidate becomes a proven winner, money flows to him. The typical pattern is for the winners of Iowa and New Hampshire to see a major bump in their contributions, enthusiasm and name recognition. And those bumps keep happening if they keep winning.Replies: @SFG
Honestly? Built a billion-dollar business and refers to his life as being ‘I’m a single billionaire in Manhattan. It’s fun’.
If that ain’t alpha, I don’t know what is.
Of course he had help through ethnic nepotism. Lots of other Jewish guys aren’t that rich though.
He's a big gay ice cream licking pygmy on an apology tour. He can't even convince dogs he's an Alpha.Replies: @Dissident
Jacobites want to bring back the Stuart monarchy, and are a small school of the alt-right nowadays (though I doubt all Jacobites are alt-right, a lot are probably just people with Scottish or Welsh ancestry who are way too into genealogy).
Jacobins were the far left of the French Revolution, and responsible for the French Terror. The word’s been revived to mean a far-lefty, and is the name of a socialist magazine.
All that stuff about peons depressing wages was just gas.Replies: @SFG
Jacobinism is support for the return of (the Stuart) Monarchy, at its theoretical foundation (ie: in spite of anyone who wants to redefine it, which they have long-been doing).
You are confused.
Jacobins in France:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobin
Jacobites in Scotland
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobitism
Extra credit: Jacobites in history
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobite
It doesn’t really matter: tech billionaires aren’t as popular as they were 15 years ago. Bloomberg is an prototypical oligarch who epitomizes their increasingly disturbing tendency toward neo-feudalism, the kind of guy who would have eat bugs and sleep in a pod, and will be viewed as such by the voters. You can make all the arguments against socialism you like. You might even be right on a lot of them. But it will increasingly fall on deaf ears in an era where crony capitalism runs unfettered and rentier policies ruin the lives of an increasing amount of Americans. Unrestricted immigration and the general prioritization of the desires of foreigners, wealthy and poor, over Americans is, of course, one of those policies. It isn’t only the policy.
Look, Trump was elected not least *because* he was visibly, openly hated by his own class and everything “mainstream” in American politics. If he fully backed that up with policy, I can guarantee he wouldn’t have to worry about re-election at all right now. One can debate the economic merits of that. But surely the political ones are obvious. And with the DNC and MSM so visibly against Bernie Sanders, the same dynamic will propel him. Our bipartisan elites, media, cultural, economic, and political, aren’t a popular lot: and for good reason.
I don’t think so: I think it merely reflects the growing immaturity of American society. On the whole, we have a deep and increasing maturity problem. Just look at how sportscasters and reporters refer to celebrities and sports players by their first name.
You’d better believe I won’t be tolerating that BS for a second. I hated that over-familiarity in grade school, and I’ll hate it all the more in the future.
At least Huey was Long's legal name. He was a junior.
His mother was Caledonia Palestine Tison, and his lieutenant governor Paul Narcisse* Cyr. What happened to great names like this? In thirty or so years, Congress will be full of Peytons and Paytons, Jadens and Bradens and Cadens.
*A politician named Narcisse. Honesty in advertising!
Now that you mention it, I just remembered that we boys often did the opposite and addressed each other by last names only, all the way up through high school. “Hey Smith, when’s Jones coming over? Have you talked to Johnson?” I’m not sure how that came about, but we liked it.
Just a born conservative I guess. ;)
Jacobins were the far left of the French Revolution, and responsible for the French Terror. The word's been revived to mean a far-lefty, and is the name of a socialist magazine.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Which Bernie Sanders told we are a “nation of immigrants”.
All that stuff about peons depressing wages was just gas.
Jimmy Carter started it. Anyone who objected was accused of not taking Southerners seriously.
At least Huey was Long’s legal name. He was a junior.
His mother was Caledonia Palestine Tison, and his lieutenant governor Paul Narcisse* Cyr. What happened to great names like this? In thirty or so years, Congress will be full of Peytons and Paytons, Jadens and Bradens and Cadens.
*A politician named Narcisse. Honesty in advertising!
Exactly.
There’s a steep diminishing return to this kind of propaganda. At some point early in the advertisement deluge, everyone’s eyes will glaze over and it will just become background noise. It may even become a source for resentment and create a backlash that Trump can use to his political benefit.
In either case, I see no evidence that Bloomberg’s great wealth and media background has made him any smarter than the average Joe would be in deploying his billions toward a political project. The man has already spent a huge pile of money for his own campaign and yet he stands at a measly eight percent in national polls. He’s also much lower than eight percent in the early states that matter most to the outcome of the Democratic nomination, which suggests that at least some of his national support is among those people who haven’t tuned in to the election yet. In other words, it’s soft support.
I think money helps to a certain degree, but after a candidate reaches that threshold it’s not of much additional use. Once a candidate becomes a proven winner, money flows to him. The typical pattern is for the winners of Iowa and New Hampshire to see a major bump in their contributions, enthusiasm and name recognition. And those bumps keep happening if they keep winning.
...well, OK, but doesn't he just split the moderate field and make Bernie's ascent more likely?Replies: @Pincher Martin
Here you go:
Father of Gigachad
No, the DNC is not going to swallow its pride re: Sanders. It'd sooner swallow cyanide.
Yes, the DNC is getting behind Sanders. There will be many hands on the knife blade*.
(*Metaphorically speaking Dear iSteve Moderator.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4rc6r9TVjUReplies: @ricpic
If Bernie wins Iowa and then wins New Hampshire convincingly he’ll be hard to stop.
In the East of the West, or vice versa. It’s Slavic and Roman Rite Roman Catholic. It was behind the Iron Curtain, as part of Yugoslavia, during the Cold War.
She was sunk when Dems read the story about how Klobuchar is worse to her staff than anyone else in congress, and how she screams at and berates her staffers all the time. Dems won't back a person like that. She's been #MeTooed, or the equivalent thereof.Replies: @Hibernian
She’s really sunk now that she’s being attacked from the left concerning a case from her prosecutor days against a teenaged black male.
“Trump manages to make all publicity, good publicity.” Good point. Back in 2016, two anti-Trump ads that ran in my part of Michigan had my aged 7-13 yr old children laughing at their stupidity, absurdity. One was a Rubio primary ad attacking Trump’s ties to the KKK, which I used as an opportunity to educate my children on the modern non-existent Klan, and a Clinton general ad which used the Billy Bush “pussy” quote. My boys found it funny that Trump said the word. My daughter even laughed. Trump at least never killed anyone like Bill Clinton did…
Oh dear, I *did* that, and everyone thought it was affected.
Just a born conservative I guess. 😉
There's a steep diminishing return to this kind of propaganda. At some point early in the advertisement deluge, everyone's eyes will glaze over and it will just become background noise. It may even become a source for resentment and create a backlash that Trump can use to his political benefit.
In either case, I see no evidence that Bloomberg's great wealth and media background has made him any smarter than the average Joe would be in deploying his billions toward a political project. The man has already spent a huge pile of money for his own campaign and yet he stands at a measly eight percent in national polls. He's also much lower than eight percent in the early states that matter most to the outcome of the Democratic nomination, which suggests that at least some of his national support is among those people who haven't tuned in to the election yet. In other words, it's soft support.I think money helps to a certain degree, but after a candidate reaches that threshold it's not of much additional use. Once a candidate becomes a proven winner, money flows to him. The typical pattern is for the winners of Iowa and New Hampshire to see a major bump in their contributions, enthusiasm and name recognition. And those bumps keep happening if they keep winning.Replies: @SFG
There was a pretty good argument from some of the lefty magazines that if his running stops Bernie from getting elected and taxing his billions, it may actually be a good investment.
…well, OK, but doesn’t he just split the moderate field and make Bernie’s ascent more likely?
All that stuff about peons depressing wages was just gas.Replies: @SFG
He’s a socialist. His big thing is taxing the rich. Changing sides on immigration is a minor point for him.
Did Bloomberg affect a lisp when he was saying “Big Gay Ice Cream is the betht”? Or was his tongue swollen from the cold ice cream?
...well, OK, but doesn't he just split the moderate field and make Bernie's ascent more likely?Replies: @Pincher Martin
Well, if you look at it just from the perspective of what Bloomberg’s candidacy has done for Bernie’s campaign to date, then we have to assume that it has improved Sanders’ prospects.
When Bloomberg launched his bid for the Democratic nomination in late November, Bernie was tied with Elizabeth Warren and trailing Joe Biden by ten points in the national poll of polls. Sanders was also behind Biden and Warren in Iowa and behind Buttigieg, Biden, and Warren in New Hampshire.
Bernie is now ahead of Warren by ten points and trails Biden by less than six points in the national polls, and he also leads everyone in both Iowa and New Hampshire in those states’ poll of polls.
Of course I don’t believe that Bloomberg is directly responsible for Sanders’ surge in the polls, but my exercise does show how meaningless it is to try and tie Bloomberg’s candidacy to some triple-bank-shot political development in favor of Bloomberg’s portfolio which you speculate is months in the future if it happens at all.
We are talking about Bloomberg far more than he deserves. I don’t see a strong candidate in him at all.
Hillary Clinton and Mike Bloomberg being the symbol of the anti-Bernie forces within the Democratic Party is going to have the same effect as Jeb Bush and Karl Rove being the symbol of the anti-Trump forces within the GOP back in 2016. It’ll just increase their appeal to the alienated.
If there was an actual press corps in the US some reporters would have already asked both Bloomberg and Sanders to comment on the Grand Central mob scene today / this evening, and for their opinion on the demands. Would NY subways really be improved by making rides free and ending MTA cop patrols? Why or why not? C’mon, no dancing.
Not gonna happen. But the “gibs us teh free stuff” demo in Grand Central is right up the socialist line.
Bernie is a trap for the Dems, because he could conceivably could win the nomination, but there is no way he could win the general. There is no way an elderly Jew with heart problems will get the non-Asian minorities to turn out in the general and without them Trump's reelection is a racing certainty.
The DNC knows this and so they will stage manage the nomination process to make Bernie go away. Mini-Mike is a non-starter for most of the the same reasons. Mayor Pete is a trap like Bernie. Biden is suffering from senile dementia. The more people see of Pocahontas the less they like her.
So who's left? I don't think Michelle O wants to step into the ring. Too much work. My guess is that they will draft Hillary. Which will of course be a disaster for the party.Replies: @Jack D, @Paul Mendez, @HammerJack
I’m not so sure.
Power is a seductive thing. As long as she’s friends with Valerie Jarrett, she must face the temptation. And how hard did Barack really work? In bed by 9:00 reading memos with multiple choice replies already included? No serious politicking with Congress.
Michelle is the only person I can think of that would defeat Trump in a landslide. Unlike Trump, she’d have a full staff of experienced professionals on Day One. And she could delegate anything she didn’t want to do to Barack. (“Honey, would you mind meeting with the Joint Chiefs on Tuesday? I have a hair appointment.”)
mini Mike = soda jerk
That seems to be it. As a candidate, he can spend money on attack ads without the regulations that donors are subject to. He’s trying to stop Trump, not Sanders. Of course, he might hate Sanders, too.
“Hillary Slams Sanders for not uniting Democrats” is like “Beijing Slams Tibet for Aggression.”
https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/status/1223310014812524545?s=20
Father of GigachadReplies: @J.Ross
I always thought that was a cartoon lumberjack because no way could that wierd face be real.
You may be correct that Sanders’ socialism will destroy his candidacy at some point. But unless the candidates espousing capitalism can come up with something better than lower wages, increased housing prices, tax cuts for the rich funded by massive deficits and perpetual wars, at some point America will turn to some form of socialism.Replies: @Jack D, @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @MBlanc46, @Jonathan Mason
There’s much to what you say, PL. But, these days socialism comes with Identity grievancers who hate whites.
You may be correct that Sanders’ socialism will destroy his candidacy at some point. But unless the candidates espousing capitalism can come up with something better than lower wages, increased housing prices, tax cuts for the rich funded by massive deficits and perpetual wars, at some point America will turn to some form of socialism.Replies: @Jack D, @Buzz Mohawk, @Reg Cæsar, @MBlanc46, @Jonathan Mason
In any case the US is already a mixed economy with public and private sectors, it is just a matter of making a few tweaks.
The private health insurance through employment is failing because health care is so expensive that the insurance cannot properly cover it, and people are filing for bankruptcy because they can’t pay the deductibles.
A young woman I know was recently bitten in the face by her uncles dog and had about 30 (small) stitches put in next to her mouth. She works for a national corporation and has health insurance, but still had to pay out $7000 in cash for her treatment. She was not admitted to the hospital as an inpatient. This is ridiculous.She may have to postpone her wedding that is scheduled in a few months time.
Back in the 80’s I was living in Bermuda which had (still has) a higher cost of living than the US and had health insurance through my job. When I had my mouth stitched up after I was hit in the mouth with a cricket ball I didn’t have to pay anything. When I had both hands, arms, and legs bitten by my landlord’s German shepherd and was off work for a month, I didn’t have to pay anything out of pocket. When I had surgery for a hernia and was in the hospital for two nights, I only had to pay $20 out of pocket for a doctor office visit.
At that time insurance worked, but now it does not work any more and if people are going to have to pay more that a car payment and maybe as much as their rent or mortgage for health care insurance for a family, then at least they want some health care for their money.
The insurance companies have failed. They can’t do it any more, and only the federal government or state governments are big enough to set up and regulate something that works.
Trump was going to reform health care and give everyone affordable insurance and drugs, but he failed too. Never really tried. Never came up with any workable proposals.
All Sanders is asking for is that healthcare and education is affordable for everyone. This is not socialism, this is not unrealistic, it is just common sense and many other developed countries are doing it better than the US.
The gold rush era in the US when everyone expected to get rich is long past. We need a new deal for a new world, not a deal off the bottom of the deck.
Was it Trump's job or the job of the then Republican congress to come up with a plan? Despite having voted several times to overturn the ACA when it knew Obama would veto them, it didn't want to end the ACA once it had the power to do so.Replies: @Desiderius
Just because your life is (relatively) shitty now (and in fact compared to most countries Americans have it pretty good even at present) doesn't mean that socialism can't make it worse - a lot worse. The Communists used to say "you have nothing to lose but your chains" but the average American has a lot more than chains to lose. Even if you have no net worth and only a job at Starbucks you still have a job and socialism is going to put your job in danger or else the purchasing power of your paycheck. The poor in Venezuela now are literally starving.Replies: @Prof. Woland, @Jonathan Mason
It is not really reasonable to compare the US to Venezuela, which is very poorly governed and is a basket case like most former Spanish outposts of empire.
It would be more realistic to compare it to Canada, Australia, or Britain, all of which have affordable universal health care which supposedly the US cannot afford, and they do not have food shortages.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/5-jewish-things-about-2020-presidential-candidate-amy-klobuchar/Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @anon
My research shows her father being born to immigrants from Yugoslavia (so concordance with “Slovenian”) and her mother being born to immigrants from Switzerland.
Here is mom’s yearbook photo.
Thought you might appreciate this book:
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/211264/how-to-live-with-a-huge-penis-by-dr-richard-jacob-and-rev-owen-thomas/
You make a good point. If Bernie were still publicly in favor of immigration restriction, he’d have been drummed out of the party by now. Though his new stance might stick, and we should never underestimate the cynicism of a modern politician.
They’re “goodwhites” of course. More than anything on earth, they want to make sure no one ever calls them racist. They don’t care if they lose their jobs and homes, their daughters are raped and killed, or even if all of society crumbles around them. Just so long as no one calls them racist.
This analysis rings true, but keep in mind that Team Evil benefits from the demographic transitions that Team Stupid helped enact. Team Stupid, being, uh, stupid, is being written out of national politics for good.
Trump (love him or loathe him) is a one-of-a-kind event. Texas is right behind Florida, and Virginia has already tipped. These states will join California, Illinois, and New York in voting for a ham sandwich so long as it has a (D) after it. As will a dozen other populous states.
Bernie is a trap for the Dems, because he could conceivably could win the nomination, but there is no way he could win the general. There is no way an elderly Jew with heart problems will get the non-Asian minorities to turn out in the general and without them Trump's reelection is a racing certainty.
The DNC knows this and so they will stage manage the nomination process to make Bernie go away. Mini-Mike is a non-starter for most of the the same reasons. Mayor Pete is a trap like Bernie. Biden is suffering from senile dementia. The more people see of Pocahontas the less they like her.
So who's left? I don't think Michelle O wants to step into the ring. Too much work. My guess is that they will draft Hillary. Which will of course be a disaster for the party.Replies: @Jack D, @Paul Mendez, @HammerJack
Bernie’s not stupid. He knows he has to choose a female running mate, and if he really wants to win, a female running mate of color.
She doesn’t have to be competent, she doesn’t even have to be black, she just has to be woke and possessed of a delightful creamy mocha complexion. It’s the Current Year in America!
Lol, there’s someone who hasn’t visited Scandinavia. The Sweden Democrats are polling higher than the Social Democrats these days.
We all know how it turns out. Caught at the marina trying to get away on his corporate yacht, or maybe at the commercial airport trying to board a plane to Brazil. Getting on his corporate jet at the private airport. Something like that.
That's what Bloomberg looks like, a midseason perp on LAO.Replies: @J.Ross, @Pericles
Lol, that was a perfect shot.
I suspect Sanders will be much more restrictive on immigration once he gets nominated.
I don’t believe this is likely, but even if it were, what difference would it make? Every effort Trump has made to restrict immigration has been blocked by a federal judge or the congress. What is it about Sanders that makes you think he would succeed where Trump has failed?
I guess nobody by now remembers that Trump let the GOPe, who had campaigned on it, propose the reform (not much came of that), nor that John “the Brain” McCain in the end voted to kill the anti-Obamacare bill he and others had so assiduously collected donations for in the preceding years. It was McCain’s last vote. See you in hell, suckers!
https://americatalks.com/politics/bombshell-did-mike-pence-and-paul-ryan-attempt-a-trump-coup/
Trump was going to reform health care and give everyone affordable insurance and drugs, but he failed too. Never really tried. Never came up with any workable proposals.
Was it Trump’s job or the job of the then Republican congress to come up with a plan? Despite having voted several times to overturn the ACA when it knew Obama would veto them, it didn’t want to end the ACA once it had the power to do so.
https://randomcriticalanalysis.com/why-conventional-wisdom-on-health-care-is-wrong-a-primer/
Fuckers need to step their game up.
Don’t know about Australia, but the British and Canadian systems are converging towards a Cuban model – free, and its worth what you pay for it.
https://i.ibb.co/1Kh8rSt/bloomberg-valentine.jpgReplies: @Gunner, @Steve in Greensboro
If a Republican made a picture like that about Bloomy now, the New Yorker would call it Naziesque.
Was it Trump's job or the job of the then Republican congress to come up with a plan? Despite having voted several times to overturn the ACA when it knew Obama would veto them, it didn't want to end the ACA once it had the power to do so.Replies: @Desiderius
Both. Still is.
https://randomcriticalanalysis.com/why-conventional-wisdom-on-health-care-is-wrong-a-primer/
Fuckers need to step their game up.
They all thought Trump would be gone early.
https://americatalks.com/politics/bombshell-did-mike-pence-and-paul-ryan-attempt-a-trump-coup/
The video is hilarious. Evalion is a 1st class idiot. With enemies like this, who needs friends?
Venezuela used to be the richest country in S. America UNTIL they went socialist (and Cuba was the richest country in the Caribbean). If Alaska went socialist it wouldn’t be long before they had an ice shortage. Socialism has an almost magical ability to make wealth disappear.
https://i.ibb.co/1Kh8rSt/bloomberg-valentine.jpgReplies: @Gunner, @Steve in Greensboro
Painfully accurate caricature. Note the date. The Ruling Class would never allow one of its mouthpieces to publish something like that today, when they see Mini-Mike as their savior.
Is this going to happen at the next Dem debate? I might actually watch the debates if there was a chance of this happening. Really any sort of physical violence.
Propose that all future presidential debates be replaced by “trials by combat”. I’m sure it would something like the fight scene from “Up”.
Michael Bloomberg is an entirely secular, irreligious Jew. Not Orthodox at all.
In a sense, this might be a flight 93 election for Democrats like Pelosi and Schiff. For many of the white / Jewish elite in the party, many of whom are boomers or older, they might be looking at the last time their ilk has control of their party. And once they have lost it, there will be no getting it back so the fear is existential. They are losing ground to vibrants who are becoming a majority in their party but still hold sway because of the lopsided ability to fund raise. Once Uncle Bernie gets in, they will be quickly and unceremoniously replaced including all of the key party positions. The Democrats will finally be the brown / black / Muzzy party and the Republicans can openly proclaim to the the white party. Instead of replacing white men from the party, the Democrats can start removing feminists, Pro-Israel, Environmentalists, gays, etc. who having burned their bridges, will have no home left to return to. One can only hope.
Yes
If that ain't alpha, I don't know what is.
Of course he had help through ethnic nepotism. Lots of other Jewish guys aren't that rich though.Replies: @Ozymandias
“If that ain’t alpha, I don’t know what is.”
He’s a big gay ice cream licking pygmy on an apology tour. He can’t even convince dogs he’s an Alpha.
He's a big gay ice cream licking pygmy on an apology tour. He can't even convince dogs he's an Alpha.Replies: @Dissident
On the other hand, I’ve never heard of Michael R. Bloomberg making appearances in drag or living for a while at the home of a friend who was an open sodomite.* For those who haven’t yet realized, I speak here of Rudolph W. Giuliani. Yes, that Rudy: the tough former NYC Mayor who took on the mob and, in sharp contradistinction to the current occupant of that office, refused to even meet with Al Sharpton.
Those New York Republicans can be an odd sort, can’t they?
Why bother trying to convince dogs when you can have foxes? With Bloomberg’s money, I wouldn’t think much convincing has been necessary…
(*A brief note is in order here. First, I do not mean to insinuate that I necessarily suspect Mr. Giuliani of being a sexual deviant or degenerate himself. Second, even if he were, the entire question of the personal behavior of any such public figure in such matters is of no more than minimal concern. Rather, it is such individuals’ positions and actions with regard to policy that should be of the utmost concern. Here, both Giuliani as well as Bloomberg have records that are rather atrocious. Both individuals have been culpable and complicit in supporting, enabling and advancing the long-running and relentless “LGBTQ” assault on decency, public health, and the very foundations society.)
I’m sure that Uncle Bernie would like to replace key party positions (to the extent that he controls them – he doesn’t pick the Speaker for example) with committed Leftists but that does not equate to brown / black / Muzzy, especially not to black. He has a lot of support from the Occasional Cortex and Illhand Omar wing but also from lots of whites (though younger than the Boomer and Pre-Boomer crowd) but not particularly blacks. Frankly, it’s overdue for the pre-Boomers to go (not that hardcore Leftists would be an improvement). I would not mourn their retirement. I saw Ed Rendell on TV this morning and he looks like your slightly senile grandpa.
These men were both elected mayor of NY (and you weren’t). If you want to be mayor of NY, you wear green on St. Patrick’s day, are photographed eating a knish and support LGBT causes or else you can forget about being elected. Whatever wonderful policies you believe in , you can’t implement them until you are elected first.
And was there any point that either Giuliani or de Blasio (to-date), even once elected, distinguished himself as being any less "culpable and complicit in supporting, enabling and advancing the long-running and relentless “LGBTQ” assault on decency, public health, and the very foundations society" as any of his realistic rivals would have been? Your final sentence implied that Giuliani and deBlasio had, in fact, so distinguished themselves, or at least that there had been credible evidence to suggest that they would do so once in office.*As opposed to Mr. Trump's record on "LGBTQ" before being elected President, which is almost entirely negative, even appallingly so. At one point, Mr. Trump even went so far as to position himself as being more woke on said question than Bill Bradley was at the time. See:
https://americansfortruth.com/issues/donald-trump/
Successful and established Jew – yes.
Orthodox and German. No and no. Bloomberg seems to be largely non-practicing – his wife/girlfriend (BTW he would be the 1st president with a live in girlfriend instead of a wife) are not Jewish, his children were not raised as Jews, etc. Although he has not severed his links with Judaism, he is anything but Orthodox.
Bloomberg’s ancestors were from E. Europe, not Germany.
Although Sanders does not have Bloomberg’s money, their background as secular Jews descended from Ellis Island immigrants who grew up in modest circumstances (Sanders in Brooklyn, Bloomberg in Brighton near Boston) but made good is quite similar – there is no real tension there.
Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and The Cortez Broad* were all elected to the U.S. Congress (and you weren’t). If you want to be elected in the current-year in the districts those ladies represent, you have to at least signal sympathy for the Palestinians, and criticism of the Zionist State and its relationship with the U.S. You also have to champion continued mass immigration from the third-world, especially the Islamic world. Whatever grand pro-Israel and anti-immigration ideas you may have, you can’t implement them unless and until you are first elected.
(*a.k.a. TCB, as the legendary Frank of Queens has dubbed the individual-in-question– one more commonly known as “AOC”.)
Your response would have perhaps made sense if applied to someone like Donald J. Trump.
Now, one could certainly make the argument (and a rather compelling one at that), at least about Giuliani, that even granting/assuming that as Mayor he was no better on the particular issue I had addressed (or any number of others) than any of his realistic rivals for that office at any of the times that he ran for it, that he nonetheless was distinctly better on one or more other considerations, and should have been supported for that reason. But I do not see that anything I wrote precluded such an argument; for all you or anyone else here knows, I may have voted for and perhaps even actively supported Rudy G. in one or more of his Mayoral bids.
Your response implies that no one who has not himself been elected to public office can credibly criticize or rate less-than-favorably anyone who has been.
And was there any point that either Giuliani or de Blasio (to-date), even once elected, distinguished himself as being any less “culpable and complicit in supporting, enabling and advancing the long-running and relentless “LGBTQ” assault on decency, public health, and the very foundations society” as any of his realistic rivals would have been? Your final sentence implied that Giuliani and deBlasio had, in fact, so distinguished themselves, or at least that there had been credible evidence to suggest that they would do so once in office.
*As opposed to Mr. Trump’s record on “LGBTQ” before being elected President, which is almost entirely negative, even appallingly so. At one point, Mr. Trump even went so far as to position himself as being more woke on said question than Bill Bradley was at the time. See:
https://americansfortruth.com/issues/donald-trump/
I actually agree. My main point is that if it’s a free-for-all at the convention, anyone with even a few delegates could be in a position to break a tie between deadlocked coalitions. Especially if the two leading candidates and their supporters have bad blood, and they both have electability problems anyway, a third person may get drafted as a compromise once the party-elders get involved. Stranger things have happened.