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That looks pretty likely. Labourite Sadiq Khan is well ahead of Tory Zac Goldsmith in the polls.
The current mayor, Tory Boris Johnson, wants to be prime minister someday. If Sadiq Khan wins Boris’s office, that would start to raise the question of whether Britain might have a Muslim prime minister someday.
There are two nuclear armed Western European powers: the UK and France. Both have growing numbers of Muslim voters. Houellebecq’s Submission sketches out one path by which a Muslim politician might luck into getting his finger on a nuclear button in Europe.
American Jews really ought to start thinking about whether immigration schmaltz and refugee worship might someday in the distant future put Israel at odds with a Muslim-led Western European nuclear power?
But that doesn’t seem to have yet dawned upon organized Jewish interests in America. For example, the Anti-Defamation League is currently pushing its We Were Strangers Too campaign to browbeat the West into taking in more Muslim refugees.
But is it good for the Jews?
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This guy called moderate Muslims “Uncle Toms.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3572015/Sadiq-Khan-branded-unfit-London-Mayor-emerges-called-moderate-Muslim-s-Uncle-Toms.html
He supports homosexual “marriage,” so it looks like the only part of his tradition he’s hanging on to is the Jew hatred. It should be very interesting to see where all this leads.
Zac Goldsmith is a lousy candidate. A rich aristocratic socialite trying to appeal to proles and Hindus and Tamils was doomed from the start. People criticize the GOP for being tone-deaf but they ain’t got nothing on the Tories.
He would have had a decent chance of winning as recently as c. 8 years ago or so but the betrayers changed the electorate.
Apparently someone just unearthed a video of him on Iran’s PressTV calling moderate muslims Uncle Tom
Unfortunately Zac Goldsmith seems like an even more ineffectual version of Mitt Romney. Totally the wrong personality to play the attack dog. So every time he brings up some obvious point that shows Sadiq Khan’s dodgy past, HE ends up being called a bigot.
As a jew , i agree with you Steve . However , allow me a quibble . Is Germany not also a European nuclear power ?
No. I meant nuclear weapon power, not nuclear power power.
--Dr. Merkwuerdigliebe.
Britain will have lost its seat on the United Nations Security Council, to be replaced by a rearming and Nuclear power, Japan.
The powers of the London Mayoralty are strictly limited. 10 years from now the Incumbent will be of even less importance.. Go back to sleep, it's
not importantReplies: @celt darnell
Overall, it seems unlikely to me that having a Muslim leader with "his finger on the button" is really a danger to Israel. The problem will come, when it does, from having too many Muslims in bureaucratic positions where they can compromise security. For example, the James Bond movie Thunderball is a fantastical pre-imagining of future possible developments...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing
And of course Germany certainly has the ability to develop nuclear weapons quickly. Most EU countries (+ Norway and Switzerland) probably have.
Buy land in NZ?
Look on the bright side. Its British people who have always counted, not that specific land. Lousy weather, tapped-out natural resources and beaches made of rocks vs Shakespeare, Newton, and Churchill.
Which one are the Muslims inheriting?
And there are already Muslim nuke weapon countries.
France is another story.
Someday….
–Dr. Merkwuerdigliebe.
Ever wonder if thousands of years of diaspora really was just bad luck (or a few divine judgments here and there)?
No; in fact Germany is even on course to totally abandon nuclear power for its energy supply (another idiotic decision by Merkel, made after the Fukushima disaster in 2011).
What’s the problem with a muslim mayor!. He supports gay marriage. He has all the right labor opinions. We’ve had Jewish mayors in christian cities for almost a century. Apart from white nationalism or overt religious prejudice (of the Steve Emerson or daniel pipes type), is there a good reason to oppose Muslim politicians in Europe or north America?
Can a Jew, Christian, or Atheist be elected mayor of a city in Iran, Egypt, Yemen, or Saudi Arabia for example?
Btw, how many Christian politicians are there in Saudi Arabia?
To which Yogi Berra replied, "Only in America!"
On the other hand, his own roots are deep in the Sotadic zone, so maybe he has a dog in this fight himself.
Is it good for the Jews?
Any Christian mayors of Jewish cities? Other than NYC
Actually, Jews get along better with Muslins (for example-Moorish Spain) than they do Christians, who have been their historical persecutors.
Hopefully, London will elect a Muslim mayor. It would be a start to ending the unfair privileges enjoyed by heterosexual white males in the city
Technically the theological gulf is wider between Judaism and Christianity...but your average person has no idea about the theology.
I'd rather discuss why the demographics of London are what they are.Replies: @Anonymous, @anon
By the way, Happy Hundredth, Bev.
“What’s the problem with a muslim mayor!”
Can a Jew, Christian, or Atheist be elected mayor of a city in Iran, Egypt, Yemen, or Saudi Arabia for example?
As I have said about Masha Gessen, “You’ve got to be really smart to be that dumb.” Hey, I could be wrong.
I saw a video today about 5 famous refugees – Einstein, Albright, Brin & Freud. I can’t remember the other one but I’m certain they were also Jewish. Somehow the example of these refugees was given as proof as to why Europe should take in more refugees.
Zac has run a bad campaign (and I say this as a Zac) as Boris-lite. Ironically Zac G’s two nephews (Jemima & Imran Khan’s sons) are super-devout Muslims.
The Labour Party is purging the anti-Semitic elements and Ed Miliband was the last leader. I don’t necessarily think it’s bad for the Jews but maybe for Israel (as the old aphorism goes, the left loves the Jews the right Israel).
Apart from naming bikes after himself I have no idea what Boris actually did as mayor and I say this as a Londoner.. He seemed to have simply been sulking that DC’s been PM all this while (the opposition sits on that side of the house but the enemy sits on ours).
I’d like Zac to win (I saw Sadiq voted for a fully elected HoL and I’m a deep believe in the hereditary peerage and their rights to sit in the upper House) but I don’t really care – if anything Zac’s ex-bro-in-law Imran Khan is a far bigger fanatic than Sadiq (who seems a super-moderate sort of chap).
Also it was pretty low of Zac to dredge up those mainly false allegations about Sadiq – race baiting at its worst.
Khan is unlikely to impose Sharia in office but he will pack City Hall as Red Ken did, he will show favouritism to 'his' guys, and going by 2010 his 2020 re-election campaign 'keep a Muslim Mayor for a Muslim city!' - will be really bad; the way things are going I can easily see mass violence, voter intimidation etc.Replies: @Anonymous
Zac Goldsmith’s dad was the highly dodgy James Goldsmith AKA Sir Jammy Fishpaste – a man with “complicated finances”.
So, dodgy Mexican Jew v dodgy Pakistani was the choice we were given
I predict a very low turn-out on Thursday.
But as he almost single-handedly kept us out of the euro, I still toast his memory.
It’s not just Muslim politicians: white British leftists, such as Jeremy Corbyn, George Galloway, Ken Livingstone are making anti-Zionism respectable in the Labour party.
Steveland, old boy, 10 years from now, Scotland and the rest of the United Kingdom will have dissolved their Parliamentary Union. The UK nuclear submarines – based in Scotland – will be disbanded. This was the problem right from the start – the infeasibility of being based outwith Scotland.
Britain will have lost its seat on the United Nations Security Council, to be replaced by a rearming and Nuclear power, Japan.
The powers of the London Mayoralty are strictly limited. 10 years from now the Incumbent will be of even less importance.. Go back to sleep, it’s
not important
The UK losing its Security Council seat? How? There's no mechanism for it.
Japan, meantime, can't get on if China vetoes it -- as China will.
You're correct about the powers of the Mayor of London being limited though -- I will give you that.
The French and British nuclear arsenals should be the concern not just of Jews but of everyone. I have mentioned it on these pages before. I hope the US DoD is thinking about those arsenals. I would guess that Israel thinks about them. I would not place too much hope in US Jewry leading the charge against Muslim immigration though. Most are incurably liberal (2/3) and more importantly their institutions are captured entirely by that 2/3. Their motto and the motto of all liberal immigration proponents is: ” I may not agree with Muslims wanting to kill me, but I will fight to the death in order to protect a Muslim’s right to kill me”.
Muslims constitute around 5% of the population and anti-immigrant sentiment is rising. I'd be surprised if they ever get to 10% of the population, frankly.Replies: @415 reasons, @Anon, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @anon
That's really funny :) Excellent.Replies: @Eric Novak, @Cwhatfuture
Would I have let my Grandparents become citizens?
They were long ago citizens.
In any case Immigrants from Europe who came here legally were a good thing for the country. The legal and illegal dregs from the third world not at all.
No matter what he does, Khan will not be the most hostile London mayor to Israel/Jews in this decade. That honor goes to former mayor Ken Livingstone.
Livingstone out-Islams Khan on just about everything, including palling around with Bengladeshi hate preachers.
British Jews sat up and took note of the Islamist/Leftist alliance with Livingstone, Galloway, and others. Khan is not a shock to the system after that.
Muhammad is the most common name among newborn baby boys in London. So I am not surprised that Londonstan will elect a Muslim for mayor. London is no longer the Anglo Saxon Protestant capital of the world.
“But is it good for the Jews?”
Could it be Europeans are siding with Muslims to knock the Jews down a few pegs?
They can’t as whites, but Muslims are ‘white guilt’ free.
If only. Does Steve think Jews are magic? Years ago, the then Chief Rabbi of Britain wrote a book warning against too much multiculturalism and Goldsmith himself has Jewish connections. Has anyone listened or cared? The average Western voter cares about one thing: ongoing welfarism. Londoners would rather Khan distribute some of Goldsmith’s wealth to them than preserve anything of their ‘nation’. That’s the simple fact of the matter. Idiotic campaigns by the ADL, one way or the other, are beyond irrelevant.
So, now Steve is pandering to the Zionists.
[The idea that ruling-class Islamists are inherently hostile to Israel is rebutted by the de facto alliance between Israel and the Saudis.]
However, Hezbollah and Assad's Syria are in the way of that prophecy's fulfillment and Iran and Russia are their only allies. Also Iran is a potential threat to the Saudis because of their Shiite minority. ISIS is for now a convenient though nasty ally of Israel and the Saudis are their Wahhabist patrons who fifty years from now Israel knows will have pissed away most of their oil wealth and will have to go back to herding camels.
All Israel needs is for Europe and the USA to accept the folks that are in the way as refugees, less the eventual slaughter of those that remain get too out of hand.
Steve thinks the ultra Zionists suffer from blinkered reasoning. No they just evil religious fanatics.Replies: @Anonymous
See I don’t see the contradiction about would I have allowed my grandparents in. I’m for as much legal immigration of Europeans as they can send (European ethnically not Swedish Somalis). Seems like that’s a few hundred thousand a year at most.
You remember when millions of citizens of the Ottoman Empire and Mexicans came through Ellis Island don’t you?
It’s funny how the deepest underlying moral foundation for any policy is the question “Is it good for the Jews?”.
The golden rule, categorical imperative, utilitarianism, liberalism, [your favorite philosophical underpinning] — all have long been implicitly superseded and obsoleted by this simple rule: “Is it good for the Jews?”.
I suppose the rule can be extended a bit by saying “Is it good for the [X]?”, where X = blacks, minorities, women, LGBTQI, the poor, the downtrodden, the children, … But while useful, in that form the rule is not so absolute.
So if you favor or object to a policy, you’re out of luck unless you can frame it this way. Implicitly, of course. It’s rather gauche, and frankly suspicious, to state that deepest of moral foundations out loud.
It’s really rather odd and almost oracular.
A lot of other groups work this angle. Feminists always ask, 'is it good for women?' Look at the way they complain about sexism when women marry up and women marrying losers when they marry down. Black and Hispanic groups do the same.
There really needs to be a generic white group with enough influence to do the same.Replies: @415 reasons, @European-American
Britain will have lost its seat on the United Nations Security Council, to be replaced by a rearming and Nuclear power, Japan.
The powers of the London Mayoralty are strictly limited. 10 years from now the Incumbent will be of even less importance.. Go back to sleep, it's
not importantReplies: @celt darnell
As no long-standing democracy has broken up in over a century, Scottish “independence” remains a pipe dream. If Quebec — the culture of which is entirely different to the rest of Canada’s — didn’t secede, I frankly don’t see Scotland doing it.
The UK losing its Security Council seat? How? There’s no mechanism for it.
Japan, meantime, can’t get on if China vetoes it — as China will.
You’re correct about the powers of the Mayor of London being limited though — I will give you that.
So, dodgy Mexican Jew v dodgy Pakistani was the choice we were given
I predict a very low turn-out on Thursday.Replies: @celt darnell
Yes, it’s true Sir James Goldsmith was a spiv.
But as he almost single-handedly kept us out of the euro, I still toast his memory.
You can relax about the UK’s nuclear arsenal (which may be smaller than Israel’s) — the UK isn’t going to be Muslim-ruled anytime soon, irrespective of the nightmares of neocons.
Muslims constitute around 5% of the population and anti-immigrant sentiment is rising. I’d be surprised if they ever get to 10% of the population, frankly.
Although I agree there's still a long way to go from there.
“” I may not agree with Muslims wanting to kill me, but I will fight to the death in order to protect a Muslim’s right to kill me”.”
That’s really funny 🙂 Excellent.
Yeah, Pakistan’s nukes and England’s nukes are two different things.
Hopefully, London will elect a Muslim mayor. It would be a start to ending the unfair privileges enjoyed by heterosexual white males in the cityReplies: @SFG, @Fredrik, @Reg Cæsar
Historical. The pattern has almost completely reversed itself.
Technically the theological gulf is wider between Judaism and Christianity…but your average person has no idea about the theology.
I think Steve’s point was that Jewish liberalism is going to bite them in the butt hard.
A lot of other groups work this angle. Feminists always ask, ‘is it good for women?’ Look at the way they complain about sexism when women marry up and women marrying losers when they marry down. Black and Hispanic groups do the same.
There really needs to be a generic white group with enough influence to do the same.
A lot of other groups work this angle. Feminists always ask, 'is it good for women?' Look at the way they complain about sexism when women marry up and women marrying losers when they marry down. Black and Hispanic groups do the same.
There really needs to be a generic white group with enough influence to do the same.Replies: @415 reasons, @European-American
Feminists are another group whose only kinship to Muslims is through delusion and wishful thinking. Somehow I don’t think importing millions of Muslims into any society could possibly make it more friendly to women
Muslims constitute around 5% of the population and anti-immigrant sentiment is rising. I'd be surprised if they ever get to 10% of the population, frankly.Replies: @415 reasons, @Anon, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @anon
10% seems like enough to continue the perpetual nightmare of random train/planes/automobiles exploding and security theater misery for all. But at least they’ll have… Curry shops? More welfare recipients? Child pimps?
And things are going to get worse before they get better. A lot worse.
Doner Kebab claims to be Germany's number one fast food.
There is a saying that politics makes strange bedfellows. (Given enough time they may be literal bedfellows, consenting or not!)This is just an artifact of the reality that you have to build coalitions. I mean, how much do evangelical Christians and Wall Street really have in common? (Someone even had a saying about serving them both.) Or, you know, blacks and Jews or gays? Heck, look at gays and Muslims. What happens to gays in Muslim countries?
Oh, and that stereotype about feminists being submissive in bed? It’s true. Not universally so, but you’d be surprised how many of them like to be [REDACTED].
Muslims constitute around 5% of the population and anti-immigrant sentiment is rising. I'd be surprised if they ever get to 10% of the population, frankly.Replies: @415 reasons, @Anon, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @anon
The beauty of Islam is that Muslims don’t necessarily need to reproduce to create more Muslims. They can simply convince enough mushy headed Leftists to embrace Islam.
Britain isn't France.
Social Justice Warriors and Libertarians love Islam from an immigration standpoint, but they don't love Islam enough to actually convert to the religion. Don't expect Mark Zuckerberg and his wife to convert to Islam anytime soon.
Well, I didn’t say we weren’t in for interesting times. Just that those who believe the UK is about to become a Muslim state are delusional.
And things are going to get worse before they get better. A lot worse.
While there are plenty of mushy headed leftists, there still ain’t enough.
Britain isn’t France.
White nationalism is a more then good enough reason for me sport. And what you call “religious prejudice” seems to me a natural aversion to the intolerance and hatred of the dark ages cult of Islam.
Btw, how many Christian politicians are there in Saudi Arabia?
Excellent point. Jews are intelligent, but they definitely have a huge blind spot when it comes to immigration. The bizarre way they conflate modern day Muslim invaders with Ellis island of times past is a telling example of this. From my own experience I worked with this Jewish guy. He was a full blown diversity loving liberal. We later got a new boss who was an Egyptian Arab. The guy made things very miserable for him and he eventually quit. It was interesting to see him taste his own medicine. Jews may find they have someday screwed themselves with their pro-immigrant actions.
Would I have let my Grandparents become citizens?
They were long ago citizens.
In any case Immigrants from Europe who came here legally were a good thing for the country. The legal and illegal dregs from the third world not at all.
NO, it is not.
Is there a good reason to oppose Muslim politicians? Yes.
Islam is an ideology that demands death to anyone who leaves the religion, that values a woman’s testimony at half a man’s, that believes you can slander a dead man and more than that, the penalty for that is death – by a bloodthirsty mob – that believes the infidel must pay a special tax in humiliation and submission, that has created a culture wherever it prevails of no free speech, no representative democracy, female genital mutilation, honor killing, of contempt for Christians and of rabid Jew (not Zionist) hatred. And Muslims always bring their Shariah with them. Oh they call it other things – they say they are for boycotting Israel because of their “liberalism” but we all know they hate Israel for religious reasons and then try and force us to go along. Don’t tell me what to do. Muslims are leaving the hell holes they created at home to re-create them here and Muslim politicians are leading the charge. No thanks.
Even the male variety isn't universal. Supposedly the Obamas' Luos don't practice it.Replies: @anon
Such as Dublin.
To which Yogi Berra replied, “Only in America!”
This is optional and not, pardon the expression, widespread.
Even the male variety isn’t universal. Supposedly the Obamas’ Luos don’t practice it.
Maybe he meant quibble as in “quibble about the importance of a Muslim leader in Britain vs. one in Germany…”.
Overall, it seems unlikely to me that having a Muslim leader with “his finger on the button” is really a danger to Israel. The problem will come, when it does, from having too many Muslims in bureaucratic positions where they can compromise security. For example, the James Bond movie Thunderball is a fantastical pre-imagining of future possible developments…
Steve, I notice you and Razib Khan don’t reference each other much. I assume there is a good reason for that. One of his pet peeves is people using the term “Judeo-Christian,” but this is a good example of the usefulness of that term. Jews can fit into political structures in Christian and post-Christian societies seamlessly. I find it hard to believe Muslims could unless they fundamentally abandoned their Islam…
Germany most certainly is a nuclear power, which shares its nukes among several other NATO nations. The German left went beserk in the ’70s about the presence of nuclear deterrents: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons
Yes, Germany, as well as Belgium, have indeed been in possession of a shared nuclear arsenal since the 1960s.
For his people, or for ours? After all, the National Socialists supported liberal abortion, but not for healthy Germans, God forbid.
On the other hand, his own roots are deep in the Sotadic zone, so maybe he has a dog in this fight himself.
Razib and I have been friends for almost the whole 21st Century. Our blog posts are listed in each other’s margins so there’s less pressing need to reference each other.
“After all, the National Socialists supported liberal abortion, but not for healthy Germans, God forbid.”
And Hitler was a vegetarian.
It’s terrible for the Jews, completely insane.
From the Jews I know, it seems like ordinary Jews know this fine well, but elite/intelligentsia Jews are able to ignore the contradiction and say that any opposition to mass immigration by Jew-hating Muslims is immoral and As Bad As Hitler.
Is this not for real or do people see that it won't do anything about Asian immigration?
Another development is that we are now seeing Labour Party politicians – Pakistani and non-Pakistani – more or less openly making explicitly open and unabashed strong antisemitic remarks in public, of the type which would have made an early 20th century Viennese rabble-rouser of a politician blush.
Ken Livingstone, a former London mayor made the rather astonishing remark that Adolf Hitler ‘was a Zionist’. Another silly (white) cow of a Labour councillor openly tweeted that ‘All Jews are disgusting and have big noses’. Naz Shah MP called on Israelis to be ‘formally relocated’, somehow forgetting that many native Britons are not too keen on her or her ilk’s presence in Britain.
– And so it goes on. The remarks range from the crude and nasty to the openly racist. And it is the LABOUR PARTY not the BNP or the National Front which is doing it. The Labour Party, the British version of the shittier type of your Democrats. I can only surmise that because their tiny little minds somehow classify Jews as ‘whites’ or even ‘super-whites’ ‘oppressing’ brown people is why the racial hatred is open and explicit.
Also, Labour increasingly rely on the non-white vote to hold power, so in part it’s a naked power bid – the more you bash Jews, the more Muslims will vote for you.
– Demographics predict permanent Labour Party rule by mid century. The antisemitic position will only harden and become more explicit and open. Expect Der Sturmer type caricatures of ‘big noses’ avaricious capitalists and skull caps – all produced by white English people to appease Muslims.
“On 14 March 2013, Goldsmith married banking heiress Alice Miranda Rothschild at London Wetland Centre in his constituency.”
interesting but maybe not surprising
You’re crazy.
From the Jews I know, it seems like ordinary Jews know this fine well, but elite/intelligentsia Jews are able to ignore the contradiction and say that any opposition to mass immigration by Jew-hating Muslims is immoral and As Bad As Hitler.Replies: @Fredrik
You have a referendum on mass immigration in June where it’s somewhat likely that you will vote to close the border.
Is this not for real or do people see that it won’t do anything about Asian immigration?
That's really funny :) Excellent.Replies: @Eric Novak, @Cwhatfuture
I’m stealing that one. Thanks.
Hopefully, London will elect a Muslim mayor. It would be a start to ending the unfair privileges enjoyed by heterosexual white males in the cityReplies: @SFG, @Fredrik, @Reg Cæsar
Considering the demographics of London a Muslim mayor is nothing strange.
I’d rather discuss why the demographics of London are what they are.
As Don McLean might have sung 'they did not listen now and they did not listen then'
While we’re on this subject.
You ask:
Some may criticize you for asking that question based on the presumption that American Jews have disproportionate influence on the formation of American public policy.
(Duh, because it happens to be true.)
But something else you said and something I read a few weeks ago, an anti-Trump screed that lauded National Review for its perpetual purges through the decades, a screed which praised Buckley for wanting to appeal to “New York cultural elites,” (code word: Jews), made me figure something out.
You sometimes in this space relay a second hand quote from Rupert Murdoch, in which he said that he does not need all New York Jews on his side, he only needs some of them.
Let’s say that in your social circle, every one hates a bizarre esoteric dish of food, say, peanut butter avocado stew. This means that within those confines, it’s easy to bash both the stew and the people who like it, because there will be no immediate social repercussions for those who do so.
But let’s say that all of a sudden, your social circle one day changes such that 10% of the people in it love peanut butter avocado stew. Sure, you and the other 90% hate it. But, just the mere presence even in a severe minority sense of people that like it in your circles, means that openly bashing people that like it is no longer a real world possibility, and even your criticism of the dish has to be measured and tactful.
The hard truth of the matter is that the American national news media is the critical choke point around American public policy formation, and New York Jews are the critical choke point around the American national news media.
Rupert Murdoch realizes that.
And I think it’s something that Bill Buckley, a New Yorker himself, figured out back in the 1950s.
What I now think that Buckley meant by “stand athwart history and yell stop” is that he was going to water down what passed for mainstream American conservative ideology and strip it of any nationalist pretense or implications such that enough New York Jews agreed with it and adopted it, “enough,” say, 10%, such that those 10% start circulating through the social circles that media-involved New York Jews operate in, and force the other 90% of leftist Jews to tolerate conservatism, precisely because conservatives are suddenly in their faces every day, even if the leftist Jews never had any intention of becoming any sort of conservatives themselves.
Therefore, since New York Jews started at least tolerating conservatism, and in the case of 10% of them, agreeing with it, this meant that conservatism got a fair hearing in the national media, and was not 24/7 bashed and trashed and ridiculed, and therefore, it made the path to conservatism becoming a legitimate competitor in the serious arena of American public policy far far far easier.
Since the media are the choke point for policy, and NY Jews are the choke point for the media, Buckley decided to appoint himself the choke point for the conservatism, or rather, between conservatism and NY Jews.
So, when you implore American Jews to think that perhaps immigration restriction might be in their best interests, you’re just realizing what Murdoch and Buckley already have/did, that if it, or anything, has a serious chance of being adopted, then enough New York Jews have to agree with it.
As for me, I wonder if it’s such a good idea for a small niche tribe of people on one island in one city to have such a disproportionate level of power over American socio-political-cultural affairs. But then I catch myself and step back, because I know that just asking the question is tantamount to building the gas chambers brick by brick with my own hands.
Zac has run a bad campaign (and I say this as a Zac) as Boris-lite. Ironically Zac G's two nephews (Jemima & Imran Khan's sons) are super-devout Muslims.
The Labour Party is purging the anti-Semitic elements and Ed Miliband was the last leader. I don't necessarily think it's bad for the Jews but maybe for Israel (as the old aphorism goes, the left loves the Jews the right Israel).
Apart from naming bikes after himself I have no idea what Boris actually did as mayor and I say this as a Londoner.. He seemed to have simply been sulking that DC's been PM all this while (the opposition sits on that side of the house but the enemy sits on ours).
I'd like Zac to win (I saw Sadiq voted for a fully elected HoL and I'm a deep believe in the hereditary peerage and their rights to sit in the upper House) but I don't really care - if anything Zac's ex-bro-in-law Imran Khan is a far bigger fanatic than Sadiq (who seems a super-moderate sort of chap).
Also it was pretty low of Zac to dredge up those mainly false allegations about Sadiq - race baiting at its worst.Replies: @Simon in London
I don’t know what Khan’s personal religious views are, but I saw first hand what his Deobandi Wahabbist Muslim followers did in Tooting in 2010 to get him re-elected as Labour MP – whipping up a sectarian campaign against the Ahmadiyya Muslims (the Lib Dem candidate was Ahmadiyya). When the Tory candidate Mark Clarke visited the Tooting Islamic Centre they tried to kill him – he’s south Asian-ancestry too & they mistakenly thought HE was the Ahmadiyya guy – he had to hide in the toilets with a mob at the door.
Khan is unlikely to impose Sharia in office but he will pack City Hall as Red Ken did, he will show favouritism to ‘his’ guys, and going by 2010 his 2020 re-election campaign ‘keep a Muslim Mayor for a Muslim city!’ – will be really bad; the way things are going I can easily see mass violence, voter intimidation etc.
Not difficult to find information on NATO’s nuclear arsenal. The Belgians have already risked China Syndrome or Chernobyl scenarios by hiring Muslims to run their reactors. With a population increase of tens of millions of Muslims in upcoming decades, the likelihood of radicals infiltrating the PC militaries of Western Europe to commandeer nukes is a near certainty. Who would stop them?
All that was missing from his body was his security pass.
Concerning that same nuclear plant, in the run up to the terrorist attacks, a 'mysterious incident' occurred in which the plant turbines were 'running hot' due the total drainage of all lubricating oil. Muslim employees were fired immediately afterward.
See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing which elaborates
Khan is unlikely to impose Sharia in office but he will pack City Hall as Red Ken did, he will show favouritism to 'his' guys, and going by 2010 his 2020 re-election campaign 'keep a Muslim Mayor for a Muslim city!' - will be really bad; the way things are going I can easily see mass violence, voter intimidation etc.Replies: @Anonymous
How will London’s huge black population deal with being effectively ‘shut out’ by Pakistani Muslims?
So I think the non-Muslim ones will end up being black flighted but where to?
Black v Muslim conflict in London has traditionally been very limited, as has inter-racial conflict in general. You get a lot more intra-Muslim conflict and intra-black conflict. Pakistani/Bangladeshi Muslim gangs fight Muslim gangs, black (inc mixed race*) gangs fight other black gangs, Tamils fight Tamils and as far as I know, Turks mostly fight Turks.
*As well as black gangs there are mixed-race gangs with some black & (male) white members. There isn't the level of black-white racial polarisation in London that you get in the US or even some other parts of the UK.
Khan could spark hostility from blacks, but going by the past it's much more likely to be elite black activists feeling shut out of the Diversity spoils redirected to Muslims, not a street phenomenon. Islamic expansion in London is fairly conservative and still mostly in the first stage of the Mohammed/Mao trinity for unconventional/Islamic warfare (1. consolidation 2. guerilla war 3. conventional war), the focus is still on creating secure base areas like Tower Hamlets that they can control, not on large scale offensives to conquer Brixton say.
Black-led riots as in 2011 are possible, but I don't think it's very likely they would be specifically and overtly anti-Muslim in character. Khan would have to make a huge error.Replies: @5371, @anon
That's really funny :) Excellent.Replies: @Eric Novak, @Cwhatfuture
Thanks
Wasn’t a nuclear plant security guard, whilst off duty, murdered in Belgium, for no apparent motive, on the same day as the Brussels attacks?
All that was missing from his body was his security pass.
Concerning that same nuclear plant, in the run up to the terrorist attacks, a ‘mysterious incident’ occurred in which the plant turbines were ‘running hot’ due the total drainage of all lubricating oil. Muslim employees were fired immediately afterward.
I'd rather discuss why the demographics of London are what they are.Replies: @Anonymous, @anon
Well, a chap called Enoch Powell said all that needs to be said on the subject way way back in 1968.
As Don McLean might have sung ‘they did not listen now and they did not listen then’
Generals always fight the previous war.
A lot of other groups work this angle. Feminists always ask, 'is it good for women?' Look at the way they complain about sexism when women marry up and women marrying losers when they marry down. Black and Hispanic groups do the same.
There really needs to be a generic white group with enough influence to do the same.Replies: @415 reasons, @European-American
I understand that point, but my thought was about what it is as a rhetorical gambit.
Presumably Steve doesn’t care that much about what’s good for the Jews — a bit, sure, but not that much. His concern is for the greater American population. However, here we see him using one of the best weapons in his arsenal of arguments against out-of-control immigration by asking (frankly, a little plaintively), “Is it good for the Jews?”
It’s as if the “Elephants and the Jewish Question” joke had metastasized. Now it’s not the Jews, but everyone who is stuck having to perpetually write “X and the Jewish Question” papers on any topic they have an interest in.
It’s like the joke is on us now, and it’s more tedious than funny.
He’s an okay candidate.
He would have had a decent chance of winning as recently as c. 8 years ago or so but the betrayers changed the electorate.
Hopefully, London will elect a Muslim mayor. It would be a start to ending the unfair privileges enjoyed by heterosexual white males in the cityReplies: @SFG, @Fredrik, @Reg Cæsar
Henry Huggins? From Klikitat Street? In Portland? Long time, no see.
By the way, Happy Hundredth, Bev.
“Or to cornhole me, should he prefer.”
The attempt to run an ugly Pamela Gelleresque campaign has fallen flat on its face, the lesson is we mustn’t allow the immigration restriction movement to be hijacked.
The alliance of SJW and immigrants guarantees a Labor win - no contest. A Pamela Gellar campaign *might* have dented it a bit with the Black blue collar population especially all the Africans who came to Europe to get away from Muslims - but it would still have been too late.
All the time the Conservatives could have allied with the blue collar population they were too busy rubbing their hands at the cheaper labor - now they're stuffed.
Eventually all but the best paid among both Conservative and SJW whites will be driven out as well but that will take a while.Replies: @LondonBob
Even the male variety isn't universal. Supposedly the Obamas' Luos don't practice it.Replies: @anon
FGM isn’t a Muslim thing it’s an African Muslim thing so not all Muslims do it but pretty much all African Muslims do it.
It is extremely widespread among African Muslims like Somalis.
[The idea that ruling-class Islamists are inherently hostile to Israel is rebutted by the de facto alliance between Israel and the Saudis.]Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
The Chosen People were not promised Arabia by Yahweh but the lands west of the Euphrates. So the Saudi Royals have little to fear from Israel but much to fear from their own homegrown fanatics that are best sent on Jihad abroad as ISIS cannon fodder.
However, Hezbollah and Assad’s Syria are in the way of that prophecy’s fulfillment and Iran and Russia are their only allies. Also Iran is a potential threat to the Saudis because of their Shiite minority. ISIS is for now a convenient though nasty ally of Israel and the Saudis are their Wahhabist patrons who fifty years from now Israel knows will have pissed away most of their oil wealth and will have to go back to herding camels.
All Israel needs is for Europe and the USA to accept the folks that are in the way as refugees, less the eventual slaughter of those that remain get too out of hand.
Steve thinks the ultra Zionists suffer from blinkered reasoning. No they just evil religious fanatics.
Plus they've got used to imported coolies to do this.
Expect a massive wave of Saudi 'refugees' knocking on Europe's door in the not too distant future.
There’s already a lot of low level conflict and yes that will be the big battle now the native blue collar population have been cleansed but the rate of Muslim immigration is so high they are being out numbered very fast. A lot of the recent black immigration has been Muslims also.
So I think the non-Muslim ones will end up being black flighted but where to?
The lesson is if you leave it too late it’s too late.
The alliance of SJW and immigrants guarantees a Labor win – no contest. A Pamela Gellar campaign *might* have dented it a bit with the Black blue collar population especially all the Africans who came to Europe to get away from Muslims – but it would still have been too late.
All the time the Conservatives could have allied with the blue collar population they were too busy rubbing their hands at the cheaper labor – now they’re stuffed.
Eventually all but the best paid among both Conservative and SJW whites will be driven out as well but that will take a while.
Well, there’s NATO’s nuclear sharing program:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing
And of course Germany certainly has the ability to develop nuclear weapons quickly. Most EU countries (+ Norway and Switzerland) probably have.
http://cis.org/ImmgrationEffectsOnAmericanJewry
I have posted this before. Western Jews will only wake up when it’s too late. Europe will be essentially Judenrein before the end of the century.
Goldsmith pere was a highly intelligent man. His biography is well worth reading. Friends of mine knew him personally and spoke highly of him. His interview on the Charlie Rose show is well worth watching- he was prophetic. It’s on YouTube.
Goldsmith fils younger brother was publicly cucked by his slutwife’s affair with a primate. It makes amusing reading. One would expect more from a Rothschild.
Money can’t buy breeding, evidently.
"White fear of black sexuality is a basic ingredient of white racism. And for whites to admit this deep fear even as they try to instill and sustain fear in blacks is to acknowledge a weakness -- a weakness that goes down to the bone. Social scientists have long acknowledged that interracial sex and marriage is the most perceived source of white fear of black people -- just as the repeated castrations of lynched black men cries out for serious psychocultural explanation."
--Cornel WestReplies: @Charlesz Martel
This is what happens when you import a demographic that is ethnically, religiously and culturally disparate from the indigenous population. Then allow them to have multiple wives and bring their relatives over, paying them to reproduce at industrial speed. This coupled with the growing number of mixed race babies born to white women, the English people have willfully set themselves on the march to extinction.
Both groups are about 12.5% of London population – there is so much immigration from sub-Sahara and eastern Europe to offset the Muslim immigration that the numbers seem fairly stable.
Black v Muslim conflict in London has traditionally been very limited, as has inter-racial conflict in general. You get a lot more intra-Muslim conflict and intra-black conflict. Pakistani/Bangladeshi Muslim gangs fight Muslim gangs, black (inc mixed race*) gangs fight other black gangs, Tamils fight Tamils and as far as I know, Turks mostly fight Turks.
*As well as black gangs there are mixed-race gangs with some black & (male) white members. There isn’t the level of black-white racial polarisation in London that you get in the US or even some other parts of the UK.
Khan could spark hostility from blacks, but going by the past it’s much more likely to be elite black activists feeling shut out of the Diversity spoils redirected to Muslims, not a street phenomenon. Islamic expansion in London is fairly conservative and still mostly in the first stage of the Mohammed/Mao trinity for unconventional/Islamic warfare (1. consolidation 2. guerilla war 3. conventional war), the focus is still on creating secure base areas like Tower Hamlets that they can control, not on large scale offensives to conquer Brixton say.
Black-led riots as in 2011 are possible, but I don’t think it’s very likely they would be specifically and overtly anti-Muslim in character. Khan would have to make a huge error.
I'm afraid both blacks and Asians have surpassed 20% by now.
That's the general case - each ethnic group starts an enclave in a particular spot with the natives gradually squeezed out as co-ethnics move to be with their group - white squeezing - as opposed to white flight. Violent inter-minority conflict generally only happens when the borders of the ethnic enclaves touch.
The more relevant conflict in the Muslim vs Black conflict we're discussing is political. Black and Muslim politicians competing to maintain and increase their share of the spoils. People who know about ethnic politics in US cities should know what I mean. This is currently boiling but under the surface. It may lead to proper communal style violence at some point but it's currently mainly political.Tamils fight Sinhalese a lot and Turks fight Kurds a lot. The media lies.Replies: @Charlie_U
muslims politicians are bad because they enforce they enforce the narrative of muslim expansion and the false impression that it is and should be the destiny of every country in the world to be at least a little bit muslim, and becoming more and more muslim over time
The alliance of SJW and immigrants guarantees a Labor win - no contest. A Pamela Gellar campaign *might* have dented it a bit with the Black blue collar population especially all the Africans who came to Europe to get away from Muslims - but it would still have been too late.
All the time the Conservatives could have allied with the blue collar population they were too busy rubbing their hands at the cheaper labor - now they're stuffed.
Eventually all but the best paid among both Conservative and SJW whites will be driven out as well but that will take a while.Replies: @LondonBob
The lesson is immigration should be opposed for traditional reasons not for some weird Zionist hate campaign against Muslims rationale, which most people find distasteful and irrelevant. People in Britain overwhelming support the Palestinians, and we don’t understand the sectarian hatreds of the Indian subcontinent either.
Than British Social Justice Warriors should demand that the British government let in masses of Palestinian refugees into The U.K. I am sure you would love to have Palestinians as your next door neighbors, especially if they are young men of war fighting age.Replies: @iSteveFan
Oh wait... there were no massive protests? Could it be that this "support" for the "Palestinians" depends on who their enemies of the moment are, with only one particular enemy motivating this "support"?Replies: @anon
Bilateral trade is heavy between the UK and Israel and is increasing yearly. The UK established the UK-Israel Tech Hub, at its Tel Aviv embassy, and has done so in no other country. This "overwhelming support", if it exists, which I doubt, does not translate into very much.
As for not "understanding" the hatreds of the subcontinent, if that is true, then you should chalk that up to a failure in the educational system. There are certainly enough Muslims and Hindus in the UK who could explain it.
People tend to go that route when they're desperate which generally means it's too late but it could work under the right circs e.g Hungary is doing that and it's working fine.
“People in Britain overwhelming support the Palestinians,”
Than British Social Justice Warriors should demand that the British government let in masses of Palestinian refugees into The U.K. I am sure you would love to have Palestinians as your next door neighbors, especially if they are young men of war fighting age.
“The beauty of Islam is that Muslims don’t necessarily need to reproduce to create more Muslims. They can simply convince enough mushy headed Leftists to embrace Islam.”
Social Justice Warriors and Libertarians love Islam from an immigration standpoint, but they don’t love Islam enough to actually convert to the religion. Don’t expect Mark Zuckerberg and his wife to convert to Islam anytime soon.
Black v Muslim conflict in London has traditionally been very limited, as has inter-racial conflict in general. You get a lot more intra-Muslim conflict and intra-black conflict. Pakistani/Bangladeshi Muslim gangs fight Muslim gangs, black (inc mixed race*) gangs fight other black gangs, Tamils fight Tamils and as far as I know, Turks mostly fight Turks.
*As well as black gangs there are mixed-race gangs with some black & (male) white members. There isn't the level of black-white racial polarisation in London that you get in the US or even some other parts of the UK.
Khan could spark hostility from blacks, but going by the past it's much more likely to be elite black activists feeling shut out of the Diversity spoils redirected to Muslims, not a street phenomenon. Islamic expansion in London is fairly conservative and still mostly in the first stage of the Mohammed/Mao trinity for unconventional/Islamic warfare (1. consolidation 2. guerilla war 3. conventional war), the focus is still on creating secure base areas like Tower Hamlets that they can control, not on large scale offensives to conquer Brixton say.
Black-led riots as in 2011 are possible, but I don't think it's very likely they would be specifically and overtly anti-Muslim in character. Khan would have to make a huge error.Replies: @5371, @anon
[Both groups are about 12.5% of London population]
I’m afraid both blacks and Asians have surpassed 20% by now.
“But at least they’ll have… Curry shops?”
Doner Kebab claims to be Germany’s number one fast food.
I guess that explains why there were massive protests in Britain when ISIS recently entered Yarmouk, Syria and expelled and slaughtered the Palestinians there.
Oh wait… there were no massive protests? Could it be that this “support” for the “Palestinians” depends on who their enemies of the moment are, with only one particular enemy motivating this “support”?
Who runs the Metropolitan Police, the Mayor of London or the Home Secretary? If the police are told to turn a blind eye to anti-semitic harassment and attacks, life for Jews in London will become very unpleasant.
The BBC use (faraway) Israel as an anti-white morality tale not an anti-Jewish one although it's back-fired now cos immigration.
Than British Social Justice Warriors should demand that the British government let in masses of Palestinian refugees into The U.K. I am sure you would love to have Palestinians as your next door neighbors, especially if they are young men of war fighting age.Replies: @iSteveFan
Why would they do that? If they support Palestinians then presumably they want Palestinian nationhood for Palestinians in Palestine, not Britain.
Muslims constitute around 5% of the population and anti-immigrant sentiment is rising. I'd be surprised if they ever get to 10% of the population, frankly.Replies: @415 reasons, @Anon, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @anon
“I’d be surprised if they ever get to 10% of the population, frankly.”
Well, you’d be wrong. Muslims are already nearly 10% of the births in England and Wales.
Given their higher birthrate and continued immigration (even if it is reduced), Muslims will certainly constitute more than 10% of the UK (yes, I understand that Scotland and N. Ireland have few Muslims at the moment) in time. More importantly, Muslims will constitute 10% or more of the under-40 population – the part of the population that commits crimes, blows things up and controls the streets – in the near future in England and Wales. Those percentages will be significantly higher in urban areas.
Why people look at current population numbers and not births to judge the impact of immigration always baffles me. Maybe these people don’t have children. I do. I look at the world from the children’s lense. It’s not good, either in the U.S. or England.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10562574/Almost-a-tenth-of-babies-and-toddlers-in-England-and-Wales-are-Muslim-census-figures-show.html
And yes, NI and Scotland have far, far fewer Muslims. England and Wales are not the entire UK.
Also, as I noted above, I didn't claim we were in great shape -- indeed, as I also noted, I predict things will get a lot worse before they get better.
But, make no mistake, immigration is going to be reduced because the opposition to it is growing -- even among the professional classes who are the last to move in this direction.
I do pay attention to birthrates. But I also pay attention to immigration and immigration (Muslim immigration absolutely mushroomed under Blair, so it's been a comparatively recent phenomenon) is the killer.
I also have kids who, like me, are indigenous Britons.
But this idea that it's already too late and Britain is destined to become a Muslim nation is not merely nonsense, it's nonsense designed to discourage people from resisting.
Which is why I object to it.
The US does not have to become a Latin American state; Britain does not have to become a Muslim one.Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Anonymous
Yes.
According to the UK – ONS – Office for National Statistics – half a decade ago Muslims made up 12.4% of London’s population. Given that the UK Muslim population nearly doubled in the decade before, and is still growing rapidly – due to high birthrates, chain-migration and secondary Muslim immigration from the rest of the EU – and given that we are now half a decade beyond the 2011 census, the number and percentage of Muslims in London will be well north of that now.
Pretty much all Muslims who vote in London, will vote for Khan. That’s a serious head start. Added to that London is a Labour party stronghold.
However, Hezbollah and Assad's Syria are in the way of that prophecy's fulfillment and Iran and Russia are their only allies. Also Iran is a potential threat to the Saudis because of their Shiite minority. ISIS is for now a convenient though nasty ally of Israel and the Saudis are their Wahhabist patrons who fifty years from now Israel knows will have pissed away most of their oil wealth and will have to go back to herding camels.
All Israel needs is for Europe and the USA to accept the folks that are in the way as refugees, less the eventual slaughter of those that remain get too out of hand.
Steve thinks the ultra Zionists suffer from blinkered reasoning. No they just evil religious fanatics.Replies: @Anonymous
Trouble is that 60 million Saudis – that’s what it will be – are too many to herd camels.
Plus they’ve got used to imported coolies to do this.
Expect a massive wave of Saudi ‘refugees’ knocking on Europe’s door in the not too distant future.
” a Muslim-led Western European nuclear power?”
Muslims have no magical powers to lead other people where they don’t want to go. Unless there are millions of ordinary Europeans yearning for Israel’s destruction and waiting for someone to lead them, a Muslim prime minister will make no difference whatsoever.
London already HAD a mayor who’s antagonistic to Israel — Ken Kivingstone. And the guy who took the lead in condemning him and Labour for antisemitism was…Sadiq Khan! No amount of demographic change will alter the fact that Israel is fundamentally aligned with the West and, unlike Apartheid South Africa, is internally coherent.
Should be obvious that diaspora Jews put their domestic concerns (pro-immigration, anti-racism, homosexual advocacy) ahead of support for Israel, only ~20% of them vote for the slavishly pro-Israel conservative parties.
It’s extremely widespread in Egypt–which makes it an Arab Muslim thing.
People in Britain “overwhelmingly” support the Palestinians? I have not noticed that with my family there. From what I can tell most people in Britain are utterly unconcerned with the Middle East, unless they are Muslims (who hate Israel for religious reasons) or they are left wing SJWs. Polling in the UK shows conservatives and UKIP favor Israel, Labour and Liberal Democrats favor “Palestine” and most people favor no one at all. https://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/03/11/israel-and-palestine-whose-side-britain/ . I would hardly call that “overwhelming” support for “Palestine”.
Bilateral trade is heavy between the UK and Israel and is increasing yearly. The UK established the UK-Israel Tech Hub, at its Tel Aviv embassy, and has done so in no other country. This “overwhelming support”, if it exists, which I doubt, does not translate into very much.
As for not “understanding” the hatreds of the subcontinent, if that is true, then you should chalk that up to a failure in the educational system. There are certainly enough Muslims and Hindus in the UK who could explain it.
I think you are misinterpreting the phrase “NATO nuclear weapons sharing states.”
See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing which elaborates
I have posted this before. Western Jews will only wake up when it's too late. Europe will be essentially Judenrein before the end of the century.
Goldsmith pere was a highly intelligent man. His biography is well worth reading. Friends of mine knew him personally and spoke highly of him. His interview on the Charlie Rose show is well worth watching- he was prophetic. It's on YouTube.
Goldsmith fils younger brother was publicly cucked by his slutwife's affair with a primate. It makes amusing reading. One would expect more from a Rothschild.
Money can't buy breeding, evidently.Replies: @Anonymous
Typical racist psyche. She carries on an affair with a black man, so she is a slut and he is a primate.
“White fear of black sexuality is a basic ingredient of white racism. And for whites to admit this deep fear even as they try to instill and sustain fear in blacks is to acknowledge a weakness — a weakness that goes down to the bone. Social scientists have long acknowledged that interracial sex and marriage is the most perceived source of white fear of black people — just as the repeated castrations of lynched black men cries out for serious psychocultural explanation.”
–Cornel West
I’ll have a look at the link, but I was going with the most recent census which put Muslims at 5%.
And yes, NI and Scotland have far, far fewer Muslims. England and Wales are not the entire UK.
Also, as I noted above, I didn’t claim we were in great shape — indeed, as I also noted, I predict things will get a lot worse before they get better.
But, make no mistake, immigration is going to be reduced because the opposition to it is growing — even among the professional classes who are the last to move in this direction.
I do pay attention to birthrates. But I also pay attention to immigration and immigration (Muslim immigration absolutely mushroomed under Blair, so it’s been a comparatively recent phenomenon) is the killer.
I also have kids who, like me, are indigenous Britons.
But this idea that it’s already too late and Britain is destined to become a Muslim nation is not merely nonsense, it’s nonsense designed to discourage people from resisting.
Which is why I object to it.
The US does not have to become a Latin American state; Britain does not have to become a Muslim one.
That being said, Muslims will constitute a significant minority in England in near future. The big question is whether they will reach a critical mass level. I have absolutely no idea. Though spending time in Germany (not military), I've surprisingly never being to the Britain, so I haven't a clue of the people or the situation. I just know a few numbers.
But I do know this: England in the 1920s (if you had money) looked like a swell place. You also had (and have) a remarkable number of enjoyable writers - though I'm still partial to Twain.
Hopefully, our children will meet in some college exchange program a decade from now rather than more dire circumstances. Virginia Tech and UVa are fine schools.
All the elites did was to re-double their efforts and immigrate some more.
I wasn’t inclined to vote for Zac Goldsmith since I am in favour of Heathrow airport’s expansion (he “worked” as an environmentalist and is strongly opposed to this) and he had a very weak, low-energy CV.
Wasn’t in favour of Sadiq Khan either as he seemed like another Labour mediocrity, would have voted for Tessa Jowell instead if she had been nominated.
I would vote for Sadiq now, the Tories have run a quite disgusting, blundering, race-baiting campaign on behalf of a candidate who is simply not fit for purpose. It is hilarious they claim Sadiq associated with pro-IS elements when Zac’s former brother in law Imran Khan (former cricket star and now Pakistani politician who came by to campaign for him) is one of the biggest apologists for the Taliban on the domestic scene.
As far as the Deobandi Wahabbist element goes, that element was long ago cheesed off by Sadiq’s rebranding to make himself more appealing to a non-Muslim electorate I.e. they reckon he was completely unhelpful in the Babar Ahmed extradition case. There was a fair proportion of the Muslim vote who were open to voting for Zac out of disenchantment with Labour machine politics, that is extremely unlikely to happen now.
Sadiq was referring to the Quilliam Foundation as being uncle Toms, that is a widely shared perception. They only keep going because of government funding. Their head is a former radical Islamist and long-standing idiot. He was caught getting ejected from a strip club during Ramadan for being drunk and harassing lap-dancers on his stag night by the Daily Mail.
FGM is popular in Malaysia. That’s quite a long way from Africa.
2) Maybe that's where Africans got it from? Aren't Malaysians the ones who settled Madagascar?
And yes, NI and Scotland have far, far fewer Muslims. England and Wales are not the entire UK.
Also, as I noted above, I didn't claim we were in great shape -- indeed, as I also noted, I predict things will get a lot worse before they get better.
But, make no mistake, immigration is going to be reduced because the opposition to it is growing -- even among the professional classes who are the last to move in this direction.
I do pay attention to birthrates. But I also pay attention to immigration and immigration (Muslim immigration absolutely mushroomed under Blair, so it's been a comparatively recent phenomenon) is the killer.
I also have kids who, like me, are indigenous Britons.
But this idea that it's already too late and Britain is destined to become a Muslim nation is not merely nonsense, it's nonsense designed to discourage people from resisting.
Which is why I object to it.
The US does not have to become a Latin American state; Britain does not have to become a Muslim one.Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Anonymous
Oh yes, the idea of Britain being a Muslim state is fanciful. And I suspect that you are correct about Britain slowing immigration, particularly Muslim immigration.
That being said, Muslims will constitute a significant minority in England in near future. The big question is whether they will reach a critical mass level. I have absolutely no idea. Though spending time in Germany (not military), I’ve surprisingly never being to the Britain, so I haven’t a clue of the people or the situation. I just know a few numbers.
But I do know this: England in the 1920s (if you had money) looked like a swell place. You also had (and have) a remarkable number of enjoyable writers – though I’m still partial to Twain.
Hopefully, our children will meet in some college exchange program a decade from now rather than more dire circumstances. Virginia Tech and UVa are fine schools.
I'd rather discuss why the demographics of London are what they are.Replies: @Anonymous, @anon
The treasonous Labour party.
And yes, NI and Scotland have far, far fewer Muslims. England and Wales are not the entire UK.
Also, as I noted above, I didn't claim we were in great shape -- indeed, as I also noted, I predict things will get a lot worse before they get better.
But, make no mistake, immigration is going to be reduced because the opposition to it is growing -- even among the professional classes who are the last to move in this direction.
I do pay attention to birthrates. But I also pay attention to immigration and immigration (Muslim immigration absolutely mushroomed under Blair, so it's been a comparatively recent phenomenon) is the killer.
I also have kids who, like me, are indigenous Britons.
But this idea that it's already too late and Britain is destined to become a Muslim nation is not merely nonsense, it's nonsense designed to discourage people from resisting.
Which is why I object to it.
The US does not have to become a Latin American state; Britain does not have to become a Muslim one.Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Anonymous
The British people massively and vociferously opposed massive third world immigration right from the very beginning.
All the elites did was to re-double their efforts and immigrate some more.
"White fear of black sexuality is a basic ingredient of white racism. And for whites to admit this deep fear even as they try to instill and sustain fear in blacks is to acknowledge a weakness -- a weakness that goes down to the bone. Social scientists have long acknowledged that interracial sex and marriage is the most perceived source of white fear of black people -- just as the repeated castrations of lynched black men cries out for serious psychocultural explanation."
--Cornel WestReplies: @Charlesz Martel
She acted like a pathetic little groupie to a loser fake rapper and broke up her marriage without any regard for her children’s welfare. She didn’t have an affair with a black man- she had an affair with a con artist fraudster. Read about him.
White fear of blacks is not due to their sexuality- it’s due to their stratospheric levels of violence and the civilizational destruction they bring.
I agree with “should.” I was quibbling the “could.”
People tend to go that route when they’re desperate which generally means it’s too late but it could work under the right circs e.g Hungary is doing that and it’s working fine.
Egypt is in Africa. It predates the Arab conquest.
1) Exception proves the rule.
2) Maybe that’s where Africans got it from? Aren’t Malaysians the ones who settled Madagascar?
Muslims constitute around 5% of the population and anti-immigrant sentiment is rising. I'd be surprised if they ever get to 10% of the population, frankly.Replies: @415 reasons, @Anon, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @anon
They’re more than 10% of the kids so yes.
Although I agree there’s still a long way to go from there.
Black v Muslim conflict in London has traditionally been very limited, as has inter-racial conflict in general. You get a lot more intra-Muslim conflict and intra-black conflict. Pakistani/Bangladeshi Muslim gangs fight Muslim gangs, black (inc mixed race*) gangs fight other black gangs, Tamils fight Tamils and as far as I know, Turks mostly fight Turks.
*As well as black gangs there are mixed-race gangs with some black & (male) white members. There isn't the level of black-white racial polarisation in London that you get in the US or even some other parts of the UK.
Khan could spark hostility from blacks, but going by the past it's much more likely to be elite black activists feeling shut out of the Diversity spoils redirected to Muslims, not a street phenomenon. Islamic expansion in London is fairly conservative and still mostly in the first stage of the Mohammed/Mao trinity for unconventional/Islamic warfare (1. consolidation 2. guerilla war 3. conventional war), the focus is still on creating secure base areas like Tower Hamlets that they can control, not on large scale offensives to conquer Brixton say.
Black-led riots as in 2011 are possible, but I don't think it's very likely they would be specifically and overtly anti-Muslim in character. Khan would have to make a huge error.Replies: @5371, @anon
Black and Muslim immigrants generally started off in different areas and then spread out from the epicenter like an ink spot gradually cleansing the surrounding native population. In cities like Birmingham where the two borders have met there is already lots of gang conflict but not where they haven’t – like London mostly.
That’s the general case – each ethnic group starts an enclave in a particular spot with the natives gradually squeezed out as co-ethnics move to be with their group – white squeezing – as opposed to white flight. Violent inter-minority conflict generally only happens when the borders of the ethnic enclaves touch.
The more relevant conflict in the Muslim vs Black conflict we’re discussing is political. Black and Muslim politicians competing to maintain and increase their share of the spoils. People who know about ethnic politics in US cities should know what I mean. This is currently boiling but under the surface. It may lead to proper communal style violence at some point but it’s currently mainly political.
Tamils fight Sinhalese a lot and Turks fight Kurds a lot. The media lies.
Oh wait... there were no massive protests? Could it be that this "support" for the "Palestinians" depends on who their enemies of the moment are, with only one particular enemy motivating this "support"?Replies: @anon
Yes, the poisoning of western culture by anti-white racists has led to lots of white people who are conditioned to pick sides in any particular conflict on the basis of who is the least white.
Ironic huh?
The BBC effectively controls the police and they don’t sanction anti-Jewish stuff in London as most of the news room are Jews and they don’t want it to effect them.
The BBC use (faraway) Israel as an anti-white morality tale not an anti-Jewish one although it’s back-fired now cos immigration.
That's the general case - each ethnic group starts an enclave in a particular spot with the natives gradually squeezed out as co-ethnics move to be with their group - white squeezing - as opposed to white flight. Violent inter-minority conflict generally only happens when the borders of the ethnic enclaves touch.
The more relevant conflict in the Muslim vs Black conflict we're discussing is political. Black and Muslim politicians competing to maintain and increase their share of the spoils. People who know about ethnic politics in US cities should know what I mean. This is currently boiling but under the surface. It may lead to proper communal style violence at some point but it's currently mainly political.Tamils fight Sinhalese a lot and Turks fight Kurds a lot. The media lies.Replies: @Charlie_U
I just thought I’d add a helpful link to support the above comment.
If anyone is interested, check out daffy Darcus Howe’s “Who You Callin’ A Ni***r?” documentary on Youtube, made in 2004, which will give you a good idea of Black vs. “Asian” vs. Somali conflict in certain areas of England.
Here’s the link: http://tinyurl.com/gso2qef
There are some great quotes in it. Check out what the lady says at 25:05, for example…
O/T
A Jewish Israeli man fled to Ukraine to avoid paying child support and he refuses to give his wife a divorce. The Rabbinical Court ruled that the man’s father will have to pay child support for his three grandchildren, $530/mo. The grandfather is not allowed to leave Israel.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/211990#.VzDHaI-cFy0