The Unz Review • An Alternative Media Selection$
A Collection of Interesting, Important, and Controversial Perspectives Largely Excluded from the American Mainstream Media
 TeasersiSteve Blog
Wife of US Ambassador to Afghanistan: Europe's Afghan Crime Wave Is Mind-Boggling.
Email This Page to Someone

 Remember My Information



=>

Bookmark Toggle AllToCAdd to LibraryRemove from Library • B
Show CommentNext New CommentNext New ReplyRead More
ReplyAgree/Disagree/Etc. More... This Commenter This Thread Hide Thread Display All Comments
AgreeDisagreeThanksLOLTroll
These buttons register your public Agreement, Disagreement, Thanks, LOL, or Troll with the selected comment. They are ONLY available to recent, frequent commenters who have saved their Name+Email using the 'Remember My Information' checkbox, and may also ONLY be used three times during any eight hour period.
Ignore Commenter Follow Commenter
Search Text Case Sensitive  Exact Words  Include Comments
List of Bookmarks

From the National Interest in 2017:

I’ve Worked with Refugees for Decades. Europe’s Afghan Crime Wave Is Mind-Boggling.
Afghans stand out among the refugees committing crimes in Austria and elsewhere. Why?

by Cheryl Benard

Cheryl Benard is an Austrian-born academic. She is the wife of Afghanistan-born U.S. diplomat Zalmay Khalilzad, who was U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan under GW Bush.

… But there was one development that had not been expected, and was not tolerable: the large and growing incidence of sexual assaults committed by refugees against local women. These were not of the cultural-misunderstanding-date-rape sort, but were vicious, no-preamble attacks on random girls and women, often committed by gangs or packs of young men. At first, the incidents were downplayed or hushed up—no one wanted to provide the right wing with fodder for nationalist agitation, and the hope was that these were isolated instances caused by a small problem group of outliers. As the incidents increased, and because many of them took place in public or because the public became involved either in stopping the attack or in aiding the victim afterwards, and because the courts began issuing sentences as the cases came to trial, the matter could no longer be swept under the carpet of political correctness. And with the official acknowledgment and public reporting, a weird and puzzling footnote emerged. Most of the assaults were being committed by refugees of one particular nationality: by Afghans.

Actually Afghans should not even have been part of the refugee tide, at least not in significant numbers. It was the Syrians who were expected. Afghanistan, a place of lingering and chronic conflict, is no longer on the official refugee roster—that’s reserved for acute political and military emergencies. … But it quickly became obvious that something was wrong, very wrong, with these young Afghan men: they were committing sex crimes to a much greater extent than other refugees, even those from countries that were equally or more backward, just as Islamic and conservative, and arguably just as misogynist.

This is not an article that has been fun for me to write. I have worked on issues related to refugees for much of my professional life, from the Pakistani camps during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan to Yemen, Sudan, Thailand, Ethiopia, Djibouti, Lebanon, Bosnia, Nicaragua and Iraq, and have deep sympathy for their plight. But nowhere had I encountered a phenomenon like this one.

… It took a while for the pattern to be recognized because, until recently, western European media deliberately refrained from identifying an assailant’s refugee or asylum status, or his country of origin. Only when the correlation became so dramatic that it was itself newsworthy did this policy change. At that point, it became clear that the authorities had known about, and for political reasons had deliberately covered up, large-scale incidences of sexual assault by migrants. For example, a gang of fifty Afghans who terrorized women in the neighborhood of the Linz train station had been brushed off by a government official with the remark that this was an unfortunate consequence of bad weather, and that once summer came the young men would disperse into the public parks and no longer move in such a large, menacing pack. The public was not amused. …

Let’s leave aside the reprehensibility of this conduct for the moment and focus instead on its logic or lack thereof. Can these men possibly expect that their attempts will be successful? Do they actually think they will be able to rape a woman on the main street of a town in the middle of the day? On a train filled with other passengers? In a frequented public park in the early afternoon? Are they incapable of logical thought—or is that not even their aim? Do they merely want to cause momentary female hysteria and touch some forbidden places of a stranger’s body? Is that so gratifying that it’s worth jeopardizing their future and being hauled off to jail by scornful and disgusted Europeans? What is going on here? And why, why, why the Afghans? According to Austrian police statistics, Syrian refugees cause fewer than 10 percent of sexual assault cases. Afghans, whose numbers are comparable, are responsible for a stunning half of all cases. …

This brings us to a third, more compelling and quite disturbing theory—the one that my Afghan friend, the court translator, puts forward. On the basis of his hundreds of interactions with these young men in his professional capacity over the past several years, he believes to have discovered that they are motivated by a deep and abiding contempt for Western civilization. To them, Europeans are the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils, as are all the other things one can take from them: housing, money, passports. Their laws don’t matter, their culture is uninteresting and, ultimately, their civilization is going to fall anyway to the horde of which one is the spearhead. No need to assimilate, or work hard, or try to build a decent life here for yourself—these Europeans are too soft to seriously punish you for a transgression, and their days are numbered.

 
Hide 180 CommentsLeave a Comment
Commenters to Ignore...to FollowEndorsed Only
Trim Comments?
  1. They are being, to use the au courant mot, being stage-managed.

    • Disagree: El Dato
    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    @obwandiyag

    They are, but she is also right. One can only use people who would act like this.

    A good country would never tolerate this behavior, nor use people like this, nor allow them to be present.

  2. U.S. diplomat Zalmay Khalilzad, who was U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan under GW Bush.

    According to this:

    he’s played a much more high-profile role recently.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Desiderius

    Well, the ex-CIA author is describing the standard operating procedure of companies where "management" is completely disconnected from reality and things wallowing is soft seats in big meeting rooms maintained by menial aids is "being on top of things". As in "I want you to implement this by next month". "No can do, we don't even know what we want in the first place. Maybe you should have started on this last year.". "That's not what I like to hear. Why not add some AI? Then we can decide later." "Uhhh... here's my resignation letter."

    The problem of distinguishing actuality form a article about the center of smoke and mirrors is interesting...


    America’s special representative, Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad, was a private citizen dabbling on his own in 2018 with a variety of dubious Afghan interlocutors against whom the intelligence community warned, trying opportunistically to get “back inside.” Undaunted, his end around to Pompeo and the White House pledging to secure the deal Trump needed which the president’s own intelligence, military and diplomatic professionals claimed was not possible absent a position of greater strength, was enthusiastically received. Our impression was that Khalilzad was angling to be Trump’s Secretary of State in a new administration, were he to win, and would essentially do or say what he was told to secure his future by pleasing the mercurial president, including his steady compromise of whatever leverage the United States had to incentivize Taliban compromises.
     
    That would be typical.

    The clock began to accelerate when US military and intelligence elements withdrew from Kandahar on May 13, and thereafter closed remaining forward operating bases and “lily pads,” the term used for temporary staging areas under U.S. or coalition control. By the time Bagram was closed on July 1, the United States and NATO had also departed Herat, Mazar I Sharif, Jalalabad, Khost and other locations I am not at liberty to name. The Taliban was moving in even as we were packing up. They were quite likely joined by the many al-Qa’ida members (some of whom had enjoyed Iranian sanctuary),-if not direct operational support, augmented further by recently released comrades the Taliban set free from Afghan detention at Bagram and elsewhere.
     
    That inclusion of Iran ticks me off...
    , @El Dato
    @Desiderius

    From the same outfit

    https://twitter.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1429236917200097280

    , @MEH 0910
    @Desiderius

    https://twitter.com/jimgeraghty/status/1426989459158061061

    Replies: @El Dato

  3. Why is she certain these men are all Afghan? Britain has long had a very similar problem with men from much-larger Pakistan (just how many emigrants can Afghanistan withstand?), and, at the risk of revealing myself to be a terrible racist, I’m sure there are large swathes of the map where these “Afghan” sexual mores are prevalent. Is a man who’d rape a woman on a train too pure to lie about his refugee status?

    …there is also a certain lack of true identification with Western notions of bureaucratic and biographic fact [edit: I am going to try this line when next I’m audited]; many, if not most, Afghans currently living in the West have some lies of necessity in their past. Whichever of them arrived first—a father, an older brother—generally had to make up a supposed family name and a birthdate on the fly, because back home, until one generation ago most people did not have a last name and birth dates were not recorded.

    Their names are fake, and the birthdays – but not the country of origin, no…

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account


    Why is she certain these men are all Afghan?
     
    She is intimately familiar with Afghans, for among other reasons, being married to one. Elsewhere in the article she waxes lyrical about who "can distinguish the delicate features of a Hazara from those of a Pashtun."

    But for us it doesn't really matter all that much whether or not every claimed "Afghan" is or isn't Afghani. As you point out, the results of importing Pakistanis have been about the same as the results of importing Afghans: mass sexual abuse. So why import either?

    Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    , @Expletive Deleted
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    " Britain has long had a very similar problem with men from much-larger Pakistan".

    Almost exclusively from the much smaller (390 sq. ml.) district of Mirpur. Possibly because they're some of the ugliest, most backward and obsessively inbred hillbilly people on the planet within the "Caucasian" category. And likely to continue in those traditions over here whether they want to or not.
    Check the mugshot galleries (reluctantly) published by the UK press on conviction. Makes Andy Ngo's pages of Antifa baghead mutants look like fashion plates.
    Hard to date English girls when you look like that, and your family hasn't arranged it for you.
    Easier to kidnap them, mob-handed. And pay off/inhibit the police and local politicos by getting them up to their necks in it, and the heroin trade they also run.

    Replies: @Clyde, @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Richard B
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account


    Is a man who’d rape a woman on a train too pure to lie about his refugee status?
     
    Exactly!

    From the article:


    To them, Europeans are the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils, as are all the other things one can take from them: housing, money, passports. Their laws don’t matter, their culture is uninteresting and, ultimately, their civilization is going to fall anyway to the horde of which one is the spearhead.
     
    Of course! Which is why The Hostile Elite invited them in the first place.
    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    "Afghanistan" and "Pakistan" are political and geographical concepts, not ethnicities. Pashtuns live in both countries, and don't always have a clear understanding of, or care, where the Durand Line lies. Seems to me very likely that Pashtuns are the problem group.

  4. Who says Afghans don’t have rhythm?

    • Replies: @donut
    @Anonymous

    See , they're already assimilated .

    Replies: @BB753

  5. I did mail this article around in Germany some time ago, posted and got not many friendly responses, hehe.

    I repeated my task last week et voilá – Hadmut Danisch, one of the most read German bloggers did publish it and write about it at great length. Still, nobody has undertaken the task to translate this thrilling text and publish it. As James Thompson twittered last week with regard to Benard’s essay: Everything that borders on group differences does make people rather uncomfortable. And her text sure does – both things.

    Btw. Ceryl Benard was once a child star and played with famous Marianne Koch in the series Der Landarzt (The Countrydoctor) – Marianne Koch quit acting with forty to become a doctor herself and lived happily ever after (she had her 90th birthday last week and is very much into healthy living and exercising etc. (she did many radio shows and wrote about half a dozen books on this subject).

    I’m not sure, but the blonde kid 3:50 in might be Cheryl Benard – she says, she has to sell the flowers to the just arriving new doctor (Marianne Koch), because she “has to earn money” (Ich muss doch Geldd verdienen).

    https://www.br.de/mediathek/video/heimatkomoedie-mit-marianne-koch-die-landaerztin-av:60e57fb0e9bfeb0007b8bd22

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Dieter Kief


    I repeated my task last week et voilá – Hadmut Danisch, one of the most read German bloggers did publish it and write about it (I’ve Worked with Refugees for Decades. Europe’s Afghan Crime Wave Is Mind-Boggling) at great length.
     
    Here it is from your German blogger. Just use Google Translate on it
    https://www.danisch.de/blog/2021/08/20/mind-boggling/

    Replies: @El Dato

  6. Cheryl Benard is an Austrian-born academic

    Wikipedia says New Orleans. “Cheryl” doesn’t sound very Teutonic.

    She is the wife of Afghanistan-born U.S. diplomat Zalmay Khalilzad, who was U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan under GW Bush.

    Their sons bear her surname. How cuck can you get?

    Her writing partner is one Edit Schlaffer, the founder of Women Without Borders, which is too close to “women without boundaries” for comfort. (Edit is apparently German for Edith, not her job description.)

    I’ve bought a couple of mugs from the Unemployed Philosophers Guild, only to find that some of what I paid went to support the likes of Women for Afghan Women.

    Well, that can’t be worse than their other “donees”, with creepy names like ActBlue LLC, Broadway Cares, Everytown for Gun Safety, and Jewish Voice for Peace. As well as old standbys MoveOn, Planned Parenthood, and the SPLC.

    • LOL: slumber_j
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Their sons bear her surname. How cuck can you get?"

    Twenty or so years ago, say around 2001, it was probably better to be an American or European called Benard than to be called Khalilzad. Maybe not so now.

    How could she tell the future?

    , @epebble
    @Reg Cæsar

    How cuck can you get?

    Not at all. It is strategic. Benard is more advantageous than Khalilzad in opening doors of opportunity. Similarly, Naomi Osaka's parents figured Osaka is more helpful than Francois. Don't you think if Obama's parents had thoughtfully named him Barack Dunham, he would have probably avoided the Birth Certificate controversy? Look how far Kamala Harris (and Nikki Haley) have come compared to Bobby Jindal (who is actually much smarter than both Kamala and Nikki). Would Kamala Harris be V.P. today if her name was Kamala Gopalan or Nikki Haley would be considered Presidential aspirant if she were Nikki Randhawa? Politics is a chess game; never fail to grab an advantage.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  7. Do they merely want to cause momentary female hysteria and touch some forbidden places of a stranger’s body?

    [Insert Biden press conference picture here.]

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Reg Cæsar


    Do they merely want to cause momentary female hysteria and touch some forbidden places of a stranger’s body?
     
    That's amazingly passive writing about a gang rape. What's next? Describing rape as a cultural imperative? Any man who wrote that would be cancelled.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

  8. Is not being burka’ed just considered a de facto invitation to these men? I remember in the aftermath of Lara Logan’s sexual assault in Egypt, Gavin McInnes mentioned that the only place Arab Muslim men generally see blondes is in porn, so the men assume they’re all hot and ready to go as a matter of course.

    • Agree: Ian Smith
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Thomas


    Is not being burka’ed just considered a de facto invitation to these men?
     
    Remember the fire at a Saudi girls' school where several died because they were not properly dressed to go outside? In most of the world, men would see that as an occasion for gallantry, and do their best to save lives, at risk to their own.

    Semites are an alien race, however. Their men would see it as an opportunity for something else.

    Covering up women says more about their opinion of men than about that of women. And it is no doubt based upon centuries of experience with those men.


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Mecca_girls%27_school_fire

  9. The answer is simple and obvious:

    Their own women are precious and protected and ‘belong’ to their own people – more specifically their husbands.

    The women of the kuffar, the aliens – who dress and act like disobedient whores – are fair game.

    • Replies: @Percival
    @Anonymous

    Imagine going to some decadent Western nation from your Third World failed state and discovering that you can actually get away with molesting their women. Or more precisely: you can molest their women, the courts will chew you out a little and then, worst case scenario, send you to a cosy prison where living conditions are still 5x better than they were in your home country. And I imagine the Afghans were probably sharing stories of such molestations. Maybe there was even some one-upmanship involved: how much can I get away with, etc.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Clyde

    , @El Dato
    @Anonymous

    TFW western women will divide by 0 when trying to understand that.

    OT but I'm looking forward to "Management Books" bearing titles like "How to be a Taliban in Business" and similar stuff.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Yes, that is the answer, and is even endorsed in Cheryl Benard's article, though she shies away from the obvious implications:


    This brings us to a third, more compelling and quite disturbing theory—the one that my Afghan friend, the court translator, puts forward. On the basis of his hundreds of interactions with these young men in his professional capacity over the past several years, he believes to have discovered that they are motivated by a deep and abiding contempt for Western civilization. To them, Europeans are the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils, as are all the other things one can take from them: housing, money, passports. Their laws don’t matter, their culture is uninteresting and, ultimately, their civilization is going to fall anyway to the horde of which one is the spearhead. No need to assimilate, or work hard, or try to build a decent life here for yourself—these Europeans are too soft to seriously punish you for a transgression, and their days are numbered.
     
    Indeed, that one paragraph, particularly the second half, could easily displace a million pages of left-liberal hand-wringing over immigration and thereby massively increase public understanding. Therefore expect this article to be suppressed and it's contents to be "debunked" (i.e., factlessly declared inadmissible in the court of public opinion).

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @BB753, @Mike Tre, @Malla, @Anonymous, @Forbes

    , @Malla
    @Anonymous

    Bingo. Exactly.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous

    TwoFiveFive, so much to teach these guys but let's start with slut shaming and work on from there. We should be good in a generation or two.

    , @Uncle Dan
    @Anonymous

    The answer is simple and obvious:
    They know German men will not protect their women.

  10. I’ve been mulling over a couple questions lately:

    A) Who on earth are the tens of thousands of American civilians supposedly still in Afghanistan?

    Surely not tourists! My guess is mainly civilian military contractors — among them soldiers who figured they could get paid a lot more as contractors than as official military.

    And probably some idiot NGO employees who lacked the sense to leave in a timely manner.

    And perhaps some Afghan natives who have acquired US citizenship.

    A great power defends its citizens. But the US citizens left in Afghanistan cannot be an ordinary American family visiting from Des Moines.

    B) We are told that we have to protect the Afghans who “helped” us, but isn’t the whole idea that we were there to “help” the people of Afghanistan?

    I suppose the answer is that this is a tacit admission that the whole nation-building thing was always a joke.

    I’m not objecting to getting the people out who were most closely associated with us — e.g., the translators.

    But it might be nice if the whole discussion — concerning the American citizens still in country and the Afghans who helped us — were a bit more open and transparent.

    • Replies: @Ed Case
    @PhysicistDave

    To work in Afghanistan for an NGO such as the UN:
    1. You've got to be a Muslim
    2. You've got to have Insurance
    3. You've got to hire local security men.
    Told this by a bloke who went there in 2005 building schools or something similar in the provinces for the UN.
    The 3 points are non negotiable for UN contractors in Afghanistan..

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @The Alarmist
    @PhysicistDave

    Well, they ain’t all NGO angels ...


    'I thought I was a goner': Ex-British soldier turned illegal alcohol salesman, 56, reveals how he broke out of a Kabul jail in his FLIP FLOPS before dashing through blood-soaked streets to catch a plane back to Britain

    An ex-British soldier turned illegal alcohol salesman has revealed how he broke out of a jail in Kabul in his flip flops before dashing through blood-soaked streets to catch a plane back to Britain.

    Ian Cameron, 56, who had been arrested in March with over £30,000 worth of illegal alcohol, recalled phoning his wife Sally to say his final goodbyes as the Taliban seized the Presidential Palace in Afghanistan's capital city on Sunday.

    ...

     

    source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9913609/Ex-British-soldier-reveals-broke-Kabul-jail-FLIP-FLOPS-catching-plane-UK.html

    I love how they turn his story into a tear-jerker. Greatest criminal story since Les Mis ... can’t wait for the ALW musical of this guy’s harrowing adventure.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Verymuchalive, @Jack Armstrong

    , @Steve Sailer
    @PhysicistDave

    The New York Post ran an article on ten Americans stuck in Afghanistan, and each of the ten appeared to be an Afghan who had gotten American papers.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Almost Missouri, @Mr Mox

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @PhysicistDave


    My guess is mainly civilian military contractors —
     
    Right.

    I suppose the answer is that this is a tacit admission that the whole nation-building thing was always a joke.
     
    Sure, nation is an organic growth. You can't "build", say, a tomato.
    , @Tony massey
    @PhysicistDave

    One of the 🇺🇸 citizens there, or at least he was a few weeks ago, is a guy from Hilton head sc that works on/services communication equipment. He's been there for years.
    My Guess is he is a CIA contractor and has prolly fuck all to do with communications.
    He did work for at&t for a number of years prior tho.
    Who knows what he does? My guess is he's prolly safely ensconced in the new regime's communications.
    And so it goes.

    , @AndrewR
    @PhysicistDave

    All the refugees belong in Israel

    , @nebulafox
    @PhysicistDave

    1) Bureaucratic inertia. Also, incompetent ass covering. Just listen to Milley and Company. Occam's razor applies here. Lord, how the US military has fallen.

    2) If we really wanted to help the people of Afghanistan, we'd let the Taliban come in and restore order. Don't think I labor under any delusions about the Taliban's nature, least of all the notion that they are interested in liberal international values and can be hectored like schoolchildren about them. That's cold. It's cruel. But it's also inevitable. What's the alternative? Staying forever and further postponing the inevitable in a pointless effort to prevent the ISI from having its satellite? It's worth pointing out that a lot of Afghans-the kind who do not get air time on CNN-may dislike the Taliban, but dislike chaos and war more, no different to how your average Vietnamese peasant felt in another lost war.

    I'm perfectly OK with getting Afghans who worked for us out, both on a moral and practical level. That's doable, because the Taliban is aware that the last thing they want to do is provoke the US too badly here. But we've spent trillions of dollars trying to do something impossible: make Afghanistan into Not Afghanistan. Those trillions of dollars could have been spent at home on the American people, of course, but as ever, the American government and cultural elite view America as an endless supply of resources to be tapped for ideological fixations, not a nation and specific place which they have a duty to. Having failed in their endeavors abroad, they now bring them home: and the consequences are only just beginning.

    Replies: @BB753, @Forbes

    , @Morton's toes
    @PhysicistDave

    An acquaintance of mine is the proud father of an evangelical Christian missionary woman in Afghanistan. He is very proud of her. When I heard this my unspoken response was to mentally flip a coin to decide which of the two of them was more insane.

    Just kidding about the last part. Obviously she is the more insane. He is a 10 and she is turned up to 11.

    , @Alden
    @PhysicistDave

    Saw something from U.K. Daily Mail that there are 15,000 American civilians in Afghanistan .


    The State Department has lots of civilians in every fifth world hell hole doing non military things. American agriculture department employees teaching primitives how to farm irrigation suitable profitable livestock and crops. Vast numbers of American medics setting up hospitals and clinics nursing schools public health departments etc Afghanistan isn’t advanced enough for engineers etc designing sewer and water systems except in the biggest cities. But the state department has thousands of Americans all over the world building infrastructure that the primitives can’t build themselves.

    It’s not just women’s and gay activists. Many of the Americans are agriculture consultants and the equivalent of an American department of water and power or state highway building and maintenance department or school district headquarters county hospital and clinic system.

    These other activities are run by the state department but the people involved aren’t state department employees. They’re from department of agriculture, Bechtel, numerous government agencies and private companies. Private companies that make a fortune. Government agencies that should be helping Americans.

    All using the American taxpayers money to attempt to drag primitives into the modern world as our own infrastructure is falling apart.

    The missionary instinct is strong.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @PhysicistDave


    But it might be nice if the whole discussion — concerning the American citizens still in country and the Afghans who helped us — were a bit more open and transparent.
     
    It would be nice if discussion of a lot of things in contemporary America were more open and transparent: The discussion of COVID, for example. Or of 9/11 - the whole (ostensible) rationale for getting into Afghanistan in the first place.
    , @Jtgw
    @PhysicistDave

    We help them here so we don’t have to help them there.

  11. Zalmay Khalilzad is very Neocon. I would not trust anything these people say.

    I’m not arguing that any Western country ought to receive Afghan immigrants, far from it. But I think this is more of an attempt to throw shade at Joe Biden for withdrawing than it is an attempt to protect Europe from Afghan crime.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Benard's article is from 2017. I doubt if it was part of a plot to throw shade on Joe Biden.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Sean

  12. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:

    There’s been surprisingly little comment on the real reason behind the Afghani debacle – namely the massive population growth in Afghanistan which, in thorough Malthusian fashion, has outstripped the means of supporting it, thus engendering the norm of violence and conflict. Similarly, in Syria, the enormous population growth of past decades, and the resulting immiseration provided the underlying factor to the anti Assad rebellion.

    Likely the appalling bloodshed and criminality seen in Mexico and central America can be ascribed to the same cause.

    The moral here is that the third world is a continual state of violence,cane these Malthusian conflicts are liable to spring up at any time, catching western politicians unawares.
    Due to the prevailing Economist/lefty ‘woke’ consensus amongst the western elite, the western response will be to allow full unimpeded access to the west for the ‘victims’ of these conflicts.

    Take note that today’s massive population growth is in black Africa, and there, surely, the bloody conflicts of the near future will occur.
    Add to this the woke/Economist view that whites ‘owe’ blacks in particular a special favor and special debt ………

    • Agree: Mark G.
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Anonymous

    I doubt population growth this is the "the real reason behind the Afghani debacle". There is no Malthusian dieoff yet. There is permanent tribal warfare and a fluidity in loyalties with the faraway Empire behaving imperially.

    , @Pericles
    @Anonymous

    Both Iraq and Afghanistan have seen huge population increases while the US waged war on them or whatever was going on.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Nobody wants to talk about this. It's taboo on the right as well as the left. (I got into a big argument with a tradcat conservative after pointing out that population growth is a major cause of the migration crisis afflicting the world.)

    , @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous

    I'm guessing the Afghans would manage to be feuding and fighting if they were still at the 20 odd million when we invaded, rather than rushing toward 40.

    But agree generally on population.


    The way--the only way--you can do effective population control is for people to control their nations population. Which is a) within your power and b) worth doing if your people reap the rewards for it.

    But when you go into "population control mode" that inherently means "closed borders". It does no good to limit your population ... and then instead of destressing your environment ... you simply get flooded by foreigners who have not limited their population! That's ... uh ... insane!

    Three quarters of the world's land surface are nations that are at or below replacement fertility. The "population crisis" should be basically over. But ... the West--which has been at subreplacement fertility for a couple generations--continues to grow. Well not actually "the West" but the "countries reportedly assigned 'West' previously (CRAWP).

  13. While President Biden finds time to issue more sanctions against participants in Nordstream 2 (I thought this had been clarified? Apparently not) more item out of Afghankirk Pretzeltown:

    ‘IMPOSSIBLE’ to evacuate Afghan allies by end of August: EU foreign policy chief says Americans create problems

    The EU’s top diplomat has declared it “impossible” for Europe to evacuate all of its Afghan allies from Kabul by the end of August. Josep Borrell blamed American troops at the city’s airport for preventing evacuees from leaving.

    Nearly a week after the fall of Kabul to Taliban forces, the US and other Western countries are still evacuating their citizens from Hamid Karzai International Airport, which remains the only lifeline between Kabul and the West. After thousands of desperate Afghans stormed the runway and attempted to get aboard American transport planes by any means necessary – some dying in the process – the airport is now ringed by US troops, with Taliban fighters outside also beefing up security.

    That security has hampered EU efforts to evacuate European citizens, Josep Borrell, the EU’s high representative for foreign affairs, told AFP on Saturday.

    “The problem is access to the airport,” Borrell explained. “The Americans’ control and security measures are very strong. We complained. We asked them to show more flexibility. We are unable to get our employees through.”

    US airlifts Americans from 200m beyond Kabul airport perimeter, after US general allegedly ‘embarrassed’ by British rescue ops

    Commander of the 82nd Airborne Division has told his British colleague to stop “embarrassing” the US troops guarding the Kabul airport by venturing into the city to rescue people, at least according to one Washington columnist.

    Major General Christopher Donahue has asked the commander of the 22nd Special Air Service (SAS) Regiment of the British Army to stop their operations beyond the perimeter of the Hamid Karzai International Airport (HKIA), because they were “embarrassing the United States military in the absence of similar US military operations,” Washington Examiner columnist Tom Rogan claimed on Friday.

    “I understand that the British officer firmly rejected the request,” Rogan added.

    Rogan blamed the situation on a “bureaucratic tug of war between the State Department, Pentagon, and White House,” and said that relations with the British, French and other allied governments in Kabul were made worse by US failure “to communicate adequately, or in some cases, to communicate at all, on their intentions and actions.” However, they all admit that only the US military could provide the airfield defense and air traffic control currently at HKIA.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @El Dato


    “I understand that the British officer firmly rejected the request,” Rogan added.
     
    Haha! I'll bet that response was worth listening to.

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @LondonBob
    @El Dato

    https://twitter.com/arisroussinos/status/1429006983068332034?s=20

    I have to wonder who are all these nationals supposedly still there, very bizarre, leave them I say.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @El Dato


    Commander of the 82nd Airborne Division has told his British colleague to stop “embarrassing” the US troops guarding the Kabul airport by venturing into the city to rescue people, at least according to one Washington columnist.
     
    Hopefully the commander of 22 SAS borrowed a page from President Bolsonaro's book and told Major General Donohue to, "...stop being such a fag."

    Replies: @Piglet

    , @Bragadocious
    @El Dato

    Tom Rogan is a Brit stationed in America, which automatically means he's MI6. Nothing he writes should be believed or given any credence whatsoever.

  14. @Anonymous
    Who says Afghans don't have rhythm?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em91Vy9s1VM

    Replies: @donut

    See , they’re already assimilated .

    • LOL: Yngvar
    • Replies: @BB753
    @donut

    The Muslim world has always been and still is gayer than the West. But in a different way. None of that western men marrying other men faggotty nonsense. Just fun, wholesome man on man action and men grooming younger men and boys so they can partake of the adult stuff later on in life.

    Replies: @Forbes

  15. @Intelligent Dasein
    Zalmay Khalilzad is very Neocon. I would not trust anything these people say.

    I'm not arguing that any Western country ought to receive Afghan immigrants, far from it. But I think this is more of an attempt to throw shade at Joe Biden for withdrawing than it is an attempt to protect Europe from Afghan crime.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Benard’s article is from 2017. I doubt if it was part of a plot to throw shade on Joe Biden.

    • Thanks: Polistra, Desiderius, MEH 0910
    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Steve Sailer


    Benard’s article is from 2017. I doubt if it was part of a plot to throw shade on Joe Biden.
     
    I wasn't talking about her...
    , @Sean
    @Steve Sailer

    Biden never wanted to occupy Afghanistan longer than it took to get Bin Laden. It was his major disagreement with Obama. Gotta remember Biden is of the Vietnam political generation.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  16. @PhysicistDave
    I've been mulling over a couple questions lately:

    A) Who on earth are the tens of thousands of American civilians supposedly still in Afghanistan?

    Surely not tourists! My guess is mainly civilian military contractors -- among them soldiers who figured they could get paid a lot more as contractors than as official military.

    And probably some idiot NGO employees who lacked the sense to leave in a timely manner.

    And perhaps some Afghan natives who have acquired US citizenship.

    A great power defends its citizens. But the US citizens left in Afghanistan cannot be an ordinary American family visiting from Des Moines.

    B) We are told that we have to protect the Afghans who "helped" us, but isn't the whole idea that we were there to "help" the people of Afghanistan?

    I suppose the answer is that this is a tacit admission that the whole nation-building thing was always a joke.

    I'm not objecting to getting the people out who were most closely associated with us -- e.g., the translators.

    But it might be nice if the whole discussion -- concerning the American citizens still in country and the Afghans who helped us -- were a bit more open and transparent.

    Replies: @Ed Case, @The Alarmist, @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Tony massey, @AndrewR, @nebulafox, @Morton's toes, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @Jtgw

    To work in Afghanistan for an NGO such as the UN:
    1. You’ve got to be a Muslim
    2. You’ve got to have Insurance
    3. You’ve got to hire local security men.
    Told this by a bloke who went there in 2005 building schools or something similar in the provinces for the UN.
    The 3 points are non negotiable for UN contractors in Afghanistan..

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Ed Case


    The 3 points are non negotiable for UN contractors in Afghanistan..
     
    Oh well, based on those 3 points it sounds like they fit right in withthe locals.

    If that's the case, we probably should just leave them there.
  17. @Steve Sailer
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Benard's article is from 2017. I doubt if it was part of a plot to throw shade on Joe Biden.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Sean

    Benard’s article is from 2017. I doubt if it was part of a plot to throw shade on Joe Biden.

    I wasn’t talking about her

  18. @Anonymous
    The answer is simple and obvious:

    Their own women are precious and protected and 'belong' to their own people - more specifically their husbands.

    The women of the kuffar, the aliens - who dress and act like disobedient whores - are fair game.

    Replies: @Percival, @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @Malla, @Buffalo Joe, @Uncle Dan

    Imagine going to some decadent Western nation from your Third World failed state and discovering that you can actually get away with molesting their women. Or more precisely: you can molest their women, the courts will chew you out a little and then, worst case scenario, send you to a cosy prison where living conditions are still 5x better than they were in your home country. And I imagine the Afghans were probably sharing stories of such molestations. Maybe there was even some one-upmanship involved: how much can I get away with, etc.

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Percival

    What percentage are even caught, much less prosecuted? I'd say fairly few, given our authorities' determination to look the other way. The risk/reward calculus is very much in their favor.

    And with the likes of Matty Yglesias and his ilk running things, we're going to have hundreds of millions of these people and our once-civilized societies will be a distant memory at best.

    You can't even say what I've just said without being suspended from our popular 'social media' sites. People say that free speech is under attack? I say that was 20 years ago.

    , @Clyde
    @Percival


    Or more precisely: you can molest their women, the courts will chew you out a little and then, worst case scenario, send you to a cosy prison where living conditions are still 5x better than they were in your home country.
     
    Plus all these European lux prisons allow in Muslim preachers who will justify their raping of European women. Plus a few of the prisoners will be self styled preachers who will tell them the same. All done in their native languages, so how do the prison authorities know? If they do know they dismiss it to collect their paychecks, without ginning up controversy.

    I hear Scandinavian prisons are the most lux/deluxe for Muslims and all prisoners. They even have halal pizza party nights on Friday! (joking)
  19. @Desiderius

    U.S. diplomat Zalmay Khalilzad, who was U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan under GW Bush.
     
    According to this:

    https://twitter.com/Outsideness/status/1428946028875587589?s=20

    he's played a much more high-profile role recently.

    Replies: @El Dato, @El Dato, @MEH 0910

    Well, the ex-CIA author is describing the standard operating procedure of companies where “management” is completely disconnected from reality and things wallowing is soft seats in big meeting rooms maintained by menial aids is “being on top of things”. As in “I want you to implement this by next month”. “No can do, we don’t even know what we want in the first place. Maybe you should have started on this last year.”. “That’s not what I like to hear. Why not add some AI? Then we can decide later.” “Uhhh… here’s my resignation letter.”

    The problem of distinguishing actuality form a article about the center of smoke and mirrors is interesting…

    America’s special representative, Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad, was a private citizen dabbling on his own in 2018 with a variety of dubious Afghan interlocutors against whom the intelligence community warned, trying opportunistically to get “back inside.” Undaunted, his end around to Pompeo and the White House pledging to secure the deal Trump needed which the president’s own intelligence, military and diplomatic professionals claimed was not possible absent a position of greater strength, was enthusiastically received. Our impression was that Khalilzad was angling to be Trump’s Secretary of State in a new administration, were he to win, and would essentially do or say what he was told to secure his future by pleasing the mercurial president, including his steady compromise of whatever leverage the United States had to incentivize Taliban compromises.

    That would be typical.

    The clock began to accelerate when US military and intelligence elements withdrew from Kandahar on May 13, and thereafter closed remaining forward operating bases and “lily pads,” the term used for temporary staging areas under U.S. or coalition control. By the time Bagram was closed on July 1, the United States and NATO had also departed Herat, Mazar I Sharif, Jalalabad, Khost and other locations I am not at liberty to name. The Taliban was moving in even as we were packing up. They were quite likely joined by the many al-Qa’ida members (some of whom had enjoyed Iranian sanctuary),-if not direct operational support, augmented further by recently released comrades the Taliban set free from Afghan detention at Bagram and elsewhere.

    That inclusion of Iran ticks me off…

  20. Are we sure it is Afghan men she is writing about? Those migrants might have looked old and weathered as they rolled into the train stations of Europe, but we were assured the girls were welcoming mere youths.

    I’m not sure the women of Europe should be allowed to complain. Ya’ know … it is White privilege to be free from rape.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @The Alarmist

    The four European women holding their refugee sign. It really should read, "Welcome hot male Muslim and African refugees"
    As Spike Lee once said - She's Gotta Have It (1986)

    Osama Bin Laden would have a great laugh over the US defeat and f'ed up exit. Then more laughs as the US and Europe take in tens of thousands of Afghan refugees, liberally salted with Taliban members and other crazed male Muslims.
    The West will be the death of The West.

    , @El Dato
    @The Alarmist

    MEN OF UNZ say: "Enjoy staying at home after 21:00, feelz ladies!"

    (Lived public transportation scene where refugees where knocking on and leering through bus windows as the rather scantily clad teenagers inside, getting ready for a night out, where somewhat alarmed at the events unfolding. That would actually make a Wojak meme.)

    OT: Bad decision making in the 2000s, and then USS Cole gets mercilessly bombed in-harbour. (From Peter Lance's "Triple Cross")



    https://i.postimg.cc/DzXFpdSX/Bombing-of-the-USS-Cole-1.png

    https://i.postimg.cc/qRKs7Yzv/Bombing-of-the-USS-Cole-2.png

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @The Alarmist

    Are the bubbles coming out of their ears?

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    , @donut
    @The Alarmist

    In a way I can see why the police don't trouble themselves all that much about these fools being raped.

    , @Undisclosed
    @The Alarmist

    Veblen pretended that conspicuous consumption was something that men did out of the pleasure of knowing that women could not.

    As an example he used the consumption of excess amounts of alcohol. His argument was that men deny their wives that extra shot of scotch so that their own will taste that much sweeter.

    In fact, conspicuous consumption - a.k.a. teasing - is almost entirely a female vice.

    The sort of man who has taps in his shoes so that you'll hear him coming and going is a little light in the loafers. The sort of man who invites reporters in to see his golden toilet is named Trump. Arousing desire and jealousy in other people is universally recognized as a disgusting trait in a man.

    It is the modus operandi of women just as much as rape is the modus operandi of men.

    Most Western societies restricts the latter to the degree that 1 in 3 women surveyed in the US regarding winking by an unattractive male to be prosecutable. The former of course is not only unrestricted but encouarged. The result is - well, I don't have to tell you. If you are male and live in the west you know the result only too well.

    Most Middle Eastern societies only restrict the vices of women. Having your way with a woman who doesn't "belong" to some male or other who is part of the Ummah is not just allowed but that's what heaven is. Women however are expected to sacrifice their health and happiness to the utmost degree by covering up from head to toe and remaining indoors lest they arouse any sexual desire in a man that he must then suffer with. The result is women staying home eating and watching tv and becoming too boring not only for their husbands but for themselves.

    Most Traditional Judeo-Christian-Hindu societies (Amish, Yeshivish, Franco Spanish, Brahmacharya) restrict the vices of both men and women by describing sex as the most vile, disgusting, devilish desire in existence. In fact, two seconds after gender is created in the form of Eve the phallic snake shows up to tempt Man thus leading to humanity's exile from Eden and the curse of Death. In these societies the vice of women to catch make attention and the vice of men to touch women are both held in severe check.

    Most hunter gatherer societies do little to restrict either vice. Women sexually tease and men aren't terribly afraid to touch. A large degree of this survives among South African blacks to this day as well as among some descendants of recent hunter-gatherer communities around the world.

    Pick your poison.

    The little-restricted lattermost approach is the most conducive to human happiness but it's questionable whether it has multi-generational staying power. Wheresoever private property exists Eden can not be bequeathed.

    The Virgin Mary approach is wonderful for the continuation of humankind but often breeds such rancor and unhappiness in forced life-long ownership relationships that carefree human pleasures are reverse alchemised into inexorable plodding duties to God, Country, Family, Office, Offspring, etc.

    And the other two approaches are simply downright cruel to half of mankind and half-way cruel to the other half. Women in America would like to be swept off their feet and men in mud hut villages would like their women to not be so humorlessly boring.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    , @Alt Right Moderate
    @The Alarmist

    In fairness they probably think most refugees are wide-eyed children with mothers, Westernised female school teachers, and male translators with families. When even the right-wing media (Fox News, Sky New Australia etc) refuses to address the issue of why so many refugees are dodgy looking single young men without papers, its no wonder left-liberal women are clueless.

    Replies: @anon

  21. @Anonymous
    There's been surprisingly little comment on the real reason behind the Afghani debacle - namely the massive population growth in Afghanistan which, in thorough Malthusian fashion, has outstripped the means of supporting it, thus engendering the norm of violence and conflict. Similarly, in Syria, the enormous population growth of past decades, and the resulting immiseration provided the underlying factor to the anti Assad rebellion.

    Likely the appalling bloodshed and criminality seen in Mexico and central America can be ascribed to the same cause.

    The moral here is that the third world is a continual state of violence,cane these Malthusian conflicts are liable to spring up at any time, catching western politicians unawares.
    Due to the prevailing Economist/lefty 'woke' consensus amongst the western elite, the western response will be to allow full unimpeded access to the west for the 'victims' of these conflicts.

    Take note that today's massive population growth is in black Africa, and there, surely, the bloody conflicts of the near future will occur.
    Add to this the woke/Economist view that whites 'owe' blacks in particular a special favor and special debt .........

    Replies: @El Dato, @Pericles, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad

    I doubt population growth this is the “the real reason behind the Afghani debacle”. There is no Malthusian dieoff yet. There is permanent tribal warfare and a fluidity in loyalties with the faraway Empire behaving imperially.

  22. At that point, it became clear that the authorities had known about, and for political reasons had deliberately covered up, large-scale incidences of sexual assault by migrants.

    “At that point, it became clear that I was at serious risk of becoming based.”

    • LOL: El Dato
    • Troll: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Polistra

    Sorry, meant to hit LOL.

    Replies: @El Dato

  23. @El Dato
    While President Biden finds time to issue more sanctions against participants in Nordstream 2 (I thought this had been clarified? Apparently not) more item out of Afghankirk Pretzeltown:

    ‘IMPOSSIBLE’ to evacuate Afghan allies by end of August: EU foreign policy chief says Americans create problems


    The EU’s top diplomat has declared it “impossible” for Europe to evacuate all of its Afghan allies from Kabul by the end of August. Josep Borrell blamed American troops at the city’s airport for preventing evacuees from leaving.

    Nearly a week after the fall of Kabul to Taliban forces, the US and other Western countries are still evacuating their citizens from Hamid Karzai International Airport, which remains the only lifeline between Kabul and the West. After thousands of desperate Afghans stormed the runway and attempted to get aboard American transport planes by any means necessary – some dying in the process – the airport is now ringed by US troops, with Taliban fighters outside also beefing up security.

    That security has hampered EU efforts to evacuate European citizens, Josep Borrell, the EU’s high representative for foreign affairs, told AFP on Saturday.

    “The problem is access to the airport,” Borrell explained. “The Americans' control and security measures are very strong. We complained. We asked them to show more flexibility. We are unable to get our employees through.”
     

    US airlifts Americans from 200m beyond Kabul airport perimeter, after US general allegedly ‘embarrassed’ by British rescue ops

    Commander of the 82nd Airborne Division has told his British colleague to stop “embarrassing” the US troops guarding the Kabul airport by venturing into the city to rescue people, at least according to one Washington columnist.

    Major General Christopher Donahue has asked the commander of the 22nd Special Air Service (SAS) Regiment of the British Army to stop their operations beyond the perimeter of the Hamid Karzai International Airport (HKIA), because they were “embarrassing the United States military in the absence of similar US military operations,” Washington Examiner columnist Tom Rogan claimed on Friday.

    “I understand that the British officer firmly rejected the request,” Rogan added.
     


    Rogan blamed the situation on a “bureaucratic tug of war between the State Department, Pentagon, and White House,” and said that relations with the British, French and other allied governments in Kabul were made worse by US failure “to communicate adequately, or in some cases, to communicate at all, on their intentions and actions.” However, they all admit that only the US military could provide the airfield defense and air traffic control currently at HKIA.
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @LondonBob, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Bragadocious

    “I understand that the British officer firmly rejected the request,” Rogan added.

    Haha! I’ll bet that response was worth listening to.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Anonymous

    I reckon "The 51st State", scene at 14:44 applies



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycLkWXChZoc&t=884s

  24. no one wanted to provide the right wing with fodder for nationalist agitation

    “Better our wives and daughters should be raped than anyone think we might be racist.”

    Mollie Tibbetts’s dad comes to mind. He’s the norm now, not the exception.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Polistra

    From the penultimate paragraph quoted by Steve:


    According to Austrian police statistics, Syrian refugees cause fewer than 10% of sexual assault cases. Afghans, whose numbers are comparable, are responsible for a stunning half of all cases.
     
    Hey there, blonde and brunette Austrian feminists: this is how elites value your personal safety in your own hometown. On your next social media post, be sure to thank the average military-age Syrian migrant for raping people like you at only one-fifth the rate of his average Afghan counterpart.

    Native Austrian rapists should be given place of pride in the Fourth of July Parades in Linz, Salzburg, and Vienna. Their rarity makes them a credit to the white race.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @Alden
    @Polistra

    Does anyone know what Tibbett does for a living? Small slaughter house that employs only $100 a week for 72 hours a week illegal aliens ? Farm labor contractor? Slum landlord who houses illegals in barns? Preacher who runs a non profit charity? Lobbyist for bilingual education from kindergarten on?

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Polistra

    Except the American population has cheered wildly as the U.S. has genocided millions of Middle Eastern civilians during our "War on Terror."

    The problem with Whites isn't that they want to fight racism or anti-immigrant groups.
    The problem is that you could lose your job if you speak out, so nobody does.

    Whites are afraid of being called "racist" not because they think it's morally wrong. They're afraid of that term because it could result in them being economically ruined and socially ostracized.

    Punishment works. Since most Whites are cowardly, it takes little to muzzle them.

    Replies: @ATBOTL

    , @Veteran Aryan
    @Polistra


    “Better our wives and daughters should be raped than anyone think we might be racist.”
     
    I'm not sure where you got the impression that they were limiting themselves to females. Their numbers are higher only because they are, on average, easier to victimize.
  25. @Anonymous
    The answer is simple and obvious:

    Their own women are precious and protected and 'belong' to their own people - more specifically their husbands.

    The women of the kuffar, the aliens - who dress and act like disobedient whores - are fair game.

    Replies: @Percival, @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @Malla, @Buffalo Joe, @Uncle Dan

    TFW western women will divide by 0 when trying to understand that.

    OT but I’m looking forward to “Management Books” bearing titles like “How to be a Taliban in Business” and similar stuff.

  26. Interesting that the piece should appear in the National Review. John Derbyshire got defenestrated for a lot less.

    From her Wikipedia entry.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheryl_Benard

    Benard’s Austrian bank account was frozen in February 2014.[2] This happened as part of an investigation into allegations of money laundering by Benard’s husband, former U.S. official Zalmay Khalizad. Benard was subsequently cleared by the Austrian court and the freezing of her accounts was found to have been illegal. Prior to the announcement of the court decision, information about the investigation was leaked to the press, allegedly the result of court documents having been disposed of unshredded in the general trash and found by scavenging bloggers.[3]

    \$2.26 trillion spent on the war and aid to Afghanistan, but only \$9 billion left in Afghanistan’s foreign currency reserves, which the US has now frozen. It is reasonable to assume that some of the money from her husband’s kickbacks found its way into her account and that this was covered up by the Austrian authorities.

    What a disgusting couple.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Verymuchalive

    Minor Quibble. It was the "National Interest" not the "National Review", although little difference!

  27. @Percival
    @Anonymous

    Imagine going to some decadent Western nation from your Third World failed state and discovering that you can actually get away with molesting their women. Or more precisely: you can molest their women, the courts will chew you out a little and then, worst case scenario, send you to a cosy prison where living conditions are still 5x better than they were in your home country. And I imagine the Afghans were probably sharing stories of such molestations. Maybe there was even some one-upmanship involved: how much can I get away with, etc.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Clyde

    What percentage are even caught, much less prosecuted? I’d say fairly few, given our authorities’ determination to look the other way. The risk/reward calculus is very much in their favor.

    And with the likes of Matty Yglesias and his ilk running things, we’re going to have hundreds of millions of these people and our once-civilized societies will be a distant memory at best.

    You can’t even say what I’ve just said without being suspended from our popular ‘social media’ sites. People say that free speech is under attack? I say that was 20 years ago.

    • Agree: BB753
  28. @Dieter Kief
    I did mail this article around in Germany some time ago, posted and got not many friendly responses, hehe.

    I repeated my task last week et voilá - Hadmut Danisch, one of the most read German bloggers did publish it and write about it at great length. Still, nobody has undertaken the task to translate this thrilling text and publish it. As James Thompson twittered last week with regard to Benard's essay: Everything that borders on group differences does make people rather uncomfortable. And her text sure does - both things.

    Btw. Ceryl Benard was once a child star and played with famous Marianne Koch in the series Der Landarzt (The Countrydoctor) - Marianne Koch quit acting with forty to become a doctor herself and lived happily ever after (she had her 90th birthday last week and is very much into healthy living and exercising etc. (she did many radio shows and wrote about half a dozen books on this subject).

    I'm not sure, but the blonde kid 3:50 in might be Cheryl Benard - she says, she has to sell the flowers to the just arriving new doctor (Marianne Koch), because she "has to earn money" (Ich muss doch Geldd verdienen).

    https://www.br.de/mediathek/video/heimatkomoedie-mit-marianne-koch-die-landaerztin-av:60e57fb0e9bfeb0007b8bd22

    Replies: @Clyde

    I repeated my task last week et voilá – Hadmut Danisch, one of the most read German bloggers did publish it and write about it (I’ve Worked with Refugees for Decades. Europe’s Afghan Crime Wave Is Mind-Boggling) at great length.

    Here it is from your German blogger. Just use Google Translate on it
    https://www.danisch.de/blog/2021/08/20/mind-boggling/

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Clyde

    I sure hope Alden can't into German otherwise our ears will bleed.


    Teddybärbahnhofsteherinnen
     
    Oy!

    ("female person waiting at the train station where either teddy bears wait or are delivered")

    This reaches heights of a Tarantino soliloquy:

    Was mich an einen Feldwebel erinnert. Im Grundwehrdienst hatten wir einen, der, obwohl normaler Deutscher, den Spitznamen „Der Afghane“ hatte, weil die im Geschäftszimmer das Maul nicht halten konnten und überall rumerzählten, dass in seiner Personalakte stehe, dass er in Kabul, Afghanistan geboren sei. Hat aber mal erzählt, dass er sich daran sowieso nicht erinnern kann, und dass seine Eltern damals halt im Ausland arbeiten waren, und das damals noch ein recht angenehmes, modernes, reisetaugliches Land gewesen sei, über das man nichts negatives hätte sagen können, die Eltern es im Gegenteil sogar als Vorteil angesehen hätten, da mal eine Zeit zu verbringen. Das muss damals recht schön dort gewesen sein. Er meinte mal, der charakteristischere Aspekt als dort geboren zu sein, sei ohnehin, dort gezeugt worden zu sein. Von einem VW-Bus hat er nichts gesagt. Aber irgendwo stand mal, dass der VW Bus in der Rangordnung der Fahrzeuge, in denen Kinder gezeugt wurden, ganz weit oben stehe.
     
    Ah! The good old times of Schmidt/Kohl, Baader-Meinhof and banging in a clapped-out VW bus in Afghanistan.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwn1F7xij9o

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Reg Cæsar, @Dieter Kief

  29. @PhysicistDave
    I've been mulling over a couple questions lately:

    A) Who on earth are the tens of thousands of American civilians supposedly still in Afghanistan?

    Surely not tourists! My guess is mainly civilian military contractors -- among them soldiers who figured they could get paid a lot more as contractors than as official military.

    And probably some idiot NGO employees who lacked the sense to leave in a timely manner.

    And perhaps some Afghan natives who have acquired US citizenship.

    A great power defends its citizens. But the US citizens left in Afghanistan cannot be an ordinary American family visiting from Des Moines.

    B) We are told that we have to protect the Afghans who "helped" us, but isn't the whole idea that we were there to "help" the people of Afghanistan?

    I suppose the answer is that this is a tacit admission that the whole nation-building thing was always a joke.

    I'm not objecting to getting the people out who were most closely associated with us -- e.g., the translators.

    But it might be nice if the whole discussion -- concerning the American citizens still in country and the Afghans who helped us -- were a bit more open and transparent.

    Replies: @Ed Case, @The Alarmist, @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Tony massey, @AndrewR, @nebulafox, @Morton's toes, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @Jtgw

    Well, they ain’t all NGO angels …

    ‘I thought I was a goner’: Ex-British soldier turned illegal alcohol salesman, 56, reveals how he broke out of a Kabul jail in his FLIP FLOPS before dashing through blood-soaked streets to catch a plane back to Britain

    An ex-British soldier turned illegal alcohol salesman has revealed how he broke out of a jail in Kabul in his flip flops before dashing through blood-soaked streets to catch a plane back to Britain.

    Ian Cameron, 56, who had been arrested in March with over £30,000 worth of illegal alcohol, recalled phoning his wife Sally to say his final goodbyes as the Taliban seized the Presidential Palace in Afghanistan’s capital city on Sunday.

    source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9913609/Ex-British-soldier-reveals-broke-Kabul-jail-FLIP-FLOPS-catching-plane-UK.html

    I love how they turn his story into a tear-jerker. Greatest criminal story since Les Mis … can’t wait for the ALW musical of this guy’s harrowing adventure.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @The Alarmist

    Top-tier grifter writing in the Daily Mail, eh? What's this bullshit about "blood-soaked street". Did the US conduct predator strikes or something?

    , @Verymuchalive
    @The Alarmist

    So this is what Daniel Dravot and Peachy Carnehan would have been doing in the 21st Century! They would be too savvy to get caught, though. I expect they would have scarpered months ago, with the money, and be relaxing by the pool in Goa.

    , @Jack Armstrong
    @The Alarmist

    White privilege.

  30. @The Alarmist
    Are we sure it is Afghan men she is writing about? Those migrants might have looked old and weathered as they rolled into the train stations of Europe, but we were assured the girls were welcoming mere youths.

    https://zeitjung.objects.frb.io/app/uploads/2015/08/Refugees_Titelbild.jpg


    I’m not sure the women of Europe should be allowed to complain. Ya’ know ... it is White privilege to be free from rape.

    Replies: @Clyde, @El Dato, @SunBakedSuburb, @donut, @Undisclosed, @Alt Right Moderate

    The four European women holding their refugee sign. It really should read, “Welcome hot male Muslim and African refugees”
    As Spike Lee once said – She’s Gotta Have It (1986)

    Osama Bin Laden would have a great laugh over the US defeat and f’ed up exit. Then more laughs as the US and Europe take in tens of thousands of Afghan refugees, liberally salted with Taliban members and other crazed male Muslims.
    The West will be the death of The West.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
  31. @Polistra

    At that point, it became clear that the authorities had known about, and for political reasons had deliberately covered up, large-scale incidences of sexual assault by migrants.
     
    "At that point, it became clear that I was at serious risk of becoming based."

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    Sorry, meant to hit LOL.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Redneck farmer

    Actually, you can switch the selected reaction. It's a palimpsest: Just react again and the old entry will be replaced.

  32. So she’s shocked that the average Afghani man is nothing like her suave husband Zalmay Khalilzad. She’s analogous to American soccer moms whose idea of black people is the black dentist who lives next door to her.

    • Agree: fish
  33. Heh! I’m ahead of you on this one, simply because I’ve been seeing links to this very same article all over the small part of the internet I’ve perused the last few days, and I don’t read near as much as you do. I like Polistra’s joke above, but, no, this lady is in no danger of becoming based. She gives the people every excuse in the book and makes it out like there’s just something wrong with this very small subset of people (what about the, what is it, millions, of Pakistanis in England?)

    Further, my personal and professional life has endowed me with many Afghan and Afghan American friends, and there is nothing collectively psychopathic about them. They are doctors, shopkeepers, owners of Japanese restaurants, airport sedan drivers, entrepreneurs, IT experts, salesladies at Macy’s—they’re like everyone else.

    Sure, salesladies at Macy’s … why do we need Afghan salesladies at Macy’s?

    ***. Spoiler Alert ***:

    [MORE]

    Anyway, movie-wise, I’ve been behind, and I finally watched the 2nd half of The Man Who Would Be King. Sean Connery got into the power of being a god there, doling out wisdom like Solomon. Contrary from what I’d just read, he didn’t want the girl for sex that bad. (Otherwise he and Peachy would have gotten chicks earlier, in the military campaign.) He was really into this whole Siskander/Alexander saga, so he wanted an heir to leave to them. The girl was pretty enough, though – in the credits I saw that her last name was Caine. Whaaa? Did Michael Caine marry a native (Moroccan, as that’s when the “Afghanistan” parts of the movie were filmed), or did she get darkened up for the movie?

    That was just one more theme the writer put in there – criminals can never seem to quit cold turkey when they are ahead. Of course, it wasn’t additional criminal acts that did these 2 in (almost), but, man, if it were just about the girl(s), why not buy up that one chick Roxanne on the way out of the country for not even 1% of your riches? Get her her own mule and take her out with you, if it’s that important.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I realise Babhu was supposedly Pakistani, but the blurb about Afghani restaurateurs reminded me of this ... and our attempts to “help” these poor souls:

    https://youtu.be/tUPH5OhXC1A

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Lady Shakira Caine was born in Guyana of Indian Muslim descent. Her and Sir Michael have been married for about 50 years now.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  34. @Steve Sailer
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Benard's article is from 2017. I doubt if it was part of a plot to throw shade on Joe Biden.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @Sean

    Biden never wanted to occupy Afghanistan longer than it took to get Bin Laden. It was his major disagreement with Obama. Gotta remember Biden is of the Vietnam political generation.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Sean

    That's what the MSM wants you to believe after it turned out that Trump's plan to withdraw from Afghanistan was massively popular with the American people. But that's not what Biden said or did at any time in the prior nineteen years. All those years he was a reliable shill for more war and more US commitment. His "major" disagreement with Obama was that he wanted 20,000 more troops rather than 40,000 more troops. (Obama compromised on 30,000. Hey, Leadership!)

    They are trying to rewrite history right under your nose. Don't let them.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/hammer-and-tickle/#comment-4848298

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe, @Sean

  35. @The Alarmist
    Are we sure it is Afghan men she is writing about? Those migrants might have looked old and weathered as they rolled into the train stations of Europe, but we were assured the girls were welcoming mere youths.

    https://zeitjung.objects.frb.io/app/uploads/2015/08/Refugees_Titelbild.jpg


    I’m not sure the women of Europe should be allowed to complain. Ya’ know ... it is White privilege to be free from rape.

    Replies: @Clyde, @El Dato, @SunBakedSuburb, @donut, @Undisclosed, @Alt Right Moderate

    MEN OF UNZ say: “Enjoy staying at home after 21:00, feelz ladies!”

    (Lived public transportation scene where refugees where knocking on and leering through bus windows as the rather scantily clad teenagers inside, getting ready for a night out, where somewhat alarmed at the events unfolding. That would actually make a Wojak meme.)

    OT: Bad decision making in the 2000s, and then USS Cole gets mercilessly bombed in-harbour. (From Peter Lance’s “Triple Cross”)

    [MORE]

  36. @El Dato
    While President Biden finds time to issue more sanctions against participants in Nordstream 2 (I thought this had been clarified? Apparently not) more item out of Afghankirk Pretzeltown:

    ‘IMPOSSIBLE’ to evacuate Afghan allies by end of August: EU foreign policy chief says Americans create problems


    The EU’s top diplomat has declared it “impossible” for Europe to evacuate all of its Afghan allies from Kabul by the end of August. Josep Borrell blamed American troops at the city’s airport for preventing evacuees from leaving.

    Nearly a week after the fall of Kabul to Taliban forces, the US and other Western countries are still evacuating their citizens from Hamid Karzai International Airport, which remains the only lifeline between Kabul and the West. After thousands of desperate Afghans stormed the runway and attempted to get aboard American transport planes by any means necessary – some dying in the process – the airport is now ringed by US troops, with Taliban fighters outside also beefing up security.

    That security has hampered EU efforts to evacuate European citizens, Josep Borrell, the EU’s high representative for foreign affairs, told AFP on Saturday.

    “The problem is access to the airport,” Borrell explained. “The Americans' control and security measures are very strong. We complained. We asked them to show more flexibility. We are unable to get our employees through.”
     

    US airlifts Americans from 200m beyond Kabul airport perimeter, after US general allegedly ‘embarrassed’ by British rescue ops

    Commander of the 82nd Airborne Division has told his British colleague to stop “embarrassing” the US troops guarding the Kabul airport by venturing into the city to rescue people, at least according to one Washington columnist.

    Major General Christopher Donahue has asked the commander of the 22nd Special Air Service (SAS) Regiment of the British Army to stop their operations beyond the perimeter of the Hamid Karzai International Airport (HKIA), because they were “embarrassing the United States military in the absence of similar US military operations,” Washington Examiner columnist Tom Rogan claimed on Friday.

    “I understand that the British officer firmly rejected the request,” Rogan added.
     


    Rogan blamed the situation on a “bureaucratic tug of war between the State Department, Pentagon, and White House,” and said that relations with the British, French and other allied governments in Kabul were made worse by US failure “to communicate adequately, or in some cases, to communicate at all, on their intentions and actions.” However, they all admit that only the US military could provide the airfield defense and air traffic control currently at HKIA.
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @LondonBob, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Bragadocious

    I have to wonder who are all these nationals supposedly still there, very bizarre, leave them I say.

  37. @Anonymous
    The answer is simple and obvious:

    Their own women are precious and protected and 'belong' to their own people - more specifically their husbands.

    The women of the kuffar, the aliens - who dress and act like disobedient whores - are fair game.

    Replies: @Percival, @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @Malla, @Buffalo Joe, @Uncle Dan

    Yes, that is the answer, and is even endorsed in Cheryl Benard’s article, though she shies away from the obvious implications:

    This brings us to a third, more compelling and quite disturbing theory—the one that my Afghan friend, the court translator, puts forward. On the basis of his hundreds of interactions with these young men in his professional capacity over the past several years, he believes to have discovered that they are motivated by a deep and abiding contempt for Western civilization. To them, Europeans are the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils, as are all the other things one can take from them: housing, money, passports. Their laws don’t matter, their culture is uninteresting and, ultimately, their civilization is going to fall anyway to the horde of which one is the spearhead. No need to assimilate, or work hard, or try to build a decent life here for yourself—these Europeans are too soft to seriously punish you for a transgression, and their days are numbered.

    Indeed, that one paragraph, particularly the second half, could easily displace a million pages of left-liberal hand-wringing over immigration and thereby massively increase public understanding. Therefore expect this article to be suppressed and it’s contents to be “debunked” (i.e., factlessly declared inadmissible in the court of public opinion).

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Almost Missouri

    Thanks.

    , @BB753
    @Almost Missouri

    She sounds as if she's in an unhappy marriage to an Afghan.

    , @Mike Tre
    @Almost Missouri

    "To them, Europeans are the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils,"

    Benard herself being one of those consensual spoils, I suppose.

    , @Malla
    @Almost Missouri

    Exactly. That is how most non Whites thinks.

    , @Anonymous
    @Almost Missouri

    It doesn't stop them from - literally - fighting and dying, falling off the wings of transport airplanes, lying, cheating, wheedling, begging, humiliating and abasing themselves etc etc for the 'right' to live amongst those they have contempt for.

    , @Forbes
    @Almost Missouri

    The bolded description


    the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils
     
    is pretty much how invading armies behaved from the dawn of history, including the Soviets and Germans in WW II. (The UN's Blue Helmet "peacekeeping" forces have a more recent record of such disgraces.)

    What's changed is the West's attitude toward the conduct of war--but not the reality of war itself. The West believes it can conduct "security operations," sparing non-combatants, while sitting down at negotiating tables to iron-out a conflict resolution.

    The West no longer believes in the need to crush the enemy's will to fight and impose an unconditional surrender on the defeated party. Just implement some pacification operations, and it's all good...

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  38. @Sean
    @Steve Sailer

    Biden never wanted to occupy Afghanistan longer than it took to get Bin Laden. It was his major disagreement with Obama. Gotta remember Biden is of the Vietnam political generation.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    That’s what the MSM wants you to believe after it turned out that Trump’s plan to withdraw from Afghanistan was massively popular with the American people. But that’s not what Biden said or did at any time in the prior nineteen years. All those years he was a reliable shill for more war and more US commitment. His “major” disagreement with Obama was that he wanted 20,000 more troops rather than 40,000 more troops. (Obama compromised on 30,000. Hey, Leadership!)

    They are trying to rewrite history right under your nose. Don’t let them.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/hammer-and-tickle/#comment-4848298

    • Agree: Verymuchalive
    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
    @Almost Missouri

    You’re on a roll today - keep it going!

    , @Sean
    @Almost Missouri

    History being what the Obama adoring press wrote? Not what Rory Stewart says and he was an adviser to Hillary Clinton on Afghanistan so knows some of the inner workings. As VP Biden was given a position worth the proverbial bucket of warm spit and could hardly defy Obama openly. All those who mocked Biden are now strictly armchair and he hasn't forgotten the way his views were dismissed; it's only his short term memory that is faulty.

  39. @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    Why is she certain these men are all Afghan? Britain has long had a very similar problem with men from much-larger Pakistan (just how many emigrants can Afghanistan withstand?), and, at the risk of revealing myself to be a terrible racist, I'm sure there are large swathes of the map where these "Afghan" sexual mores are prevalent. Is a man who'd rape a woman on a train too pure to lie about his refugee status?

    ...there is also a certain lack of true identification with Western notions of bureaucratic and biographic fact [edit: I am going to try this line when next I'm audited]; many, if not most, Afghans currently living in the West have some lies of necessity in their past. Whichever of them arrived first—a father, an older brother—generally had to make up a supposed family name and a birthdate on the fly, because back home, until one generation ago most people did not have a last name and birth dates were not recorded.
     
    Their names are fake, and the birthdays - but not the country of origin, no...

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Expletive Deleted, @Richard B, @Peter Akuleyev

    Why is she certain these men are all Afghan?

    She is intimately familiar with Afghans, for among other reasons, being married to one. Elsewhere in the article she waxes lyrical about who “can distinguish the delicate features of a Hazara from those of a Pashtun.”

    But for us it doesn’t really matter all that much whether or not every claimed “Afghan” is or isn’t Afghani. As you point out, the results of importing Pakistanis have been about the same as the results of importing Afghans: mass sexual abuse. So why import either?

    • Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    @Almost Missouri


    She is intimately familiar with Afghans, for among other reasons, being married to one. Elsewhere in the article she waxes lyrical about who “can distinguish the delicate features of a Hazara from those of a Pashtun.”
     
    Even if she has the expertise she claims, she isn't personally examining the mugshots of every alleged Afghan refugee.

    We agree that Afghan or not doesn't matter as far as rapes and other crimes go. But my point is also that these clowns refuse to acecpt that, and instead wish to promulgate psychobabble about certain unique properties of Afghan culture - properties induced, of course, by our actions. It's our fault that Afghans rape, you see, and it's in our power to change this about them. We have a responsibility...

    In reality, vast rapey hordes are taking advantage of this guilt and naivete by falsely claiming refugee status, and the only thing we can do about it is to keep them out.
  40. @Achmed E. Newman
    Heh! I'm ahead of you on this one, simply because I've been seeing links to this very same article all over the small part of the internet I've perused the last few days, and I don't read near as much as you do. I like Polistra's joke above, but, no, this lady is in no danger of becoming based. She gives the people every excuse in the book and makes it out like there's just something wrong with this very small subset of people (what about the, what is it, millions, of Pakistanis in England?)

    Further, my personal and professional life has endowed me with many Afghan and Afghan American friends, and there is nothing collectively psychopathic about them. They are doctors, shopkeepers, owners of Japanese restaurants, airport sedan drivers, entrepreneurs, IT experts, salesladies at Macy’s—they’re like everyone else.
     
    Sure, salesladies at Macy's ... why do we need Afghan salesladies at Macy's?

    ***. Spoiler Alert ***:

    Anyway, movie-wise, I've been behind, and I finally watched the 2nd half of The Man Who Would Be King. Sean Connery got into the power of being a god there, doling out wisdom like Solomon. Contrary from what I'd just read, he didn't want the girl for sex that bad. (Otherwise he and Peachy would have gotten chicks earlier, in the military campaign.) He was really into this whole Siskander/Alexander saga, so he wanted an heir to leave to them. The girl was pretty enough, though - in the credits I saw that her last name was Caine. Whaaa? Did Michael Caine marry a native (Moroccan, as that's when the "Afghanistan" parts of the movie were filmed), or did she get darkened up for the movie?

    That was just one more theme the writer put in there - criminals can never seem to quit cold turkey when they are ahead. Of course, it wasn't additional criminal acts that did these 2 in (almost), but, man, if it were just about the girl(s), why not buy up that one chick Roxanne on the way out of the country for not even 1% of your riches? Get her her own mule and take her out with you, if it's that important.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Steve Sailer

    I realise Babhu was supposedly Pakistani, but the blurb about Afghani restaurateurs reminded me of this … and our attempts to “help” these poor souls:

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @The Alarmist

    Thanks, Alarmist. I've seen it multiple times. This particular episode is not so much pro-illegal immigration as just showing Jerry (and often times 2 of the other 3, Elaine and George) wanting to do good with funny circumstances from the other plot lines spoiling it all. I think the immigration aspect is only included because the show is about NY City.

    Were the writers trying to push immigration? Perhaps a slight big, but they sure were reasonably fair about it by including Jerry's bit that made fun of the Emma Lazarus 0'th Constitutional Amendment poem:


    Interestingly, a clip of this is no longer available on youtube. Lots of stuff does go away after a while, but, no, I'm not paranoid ...

  41. @donut
    @Anonymous

    See , they're already assimilated .

    Replies: @BB753

    The Muslim world has always been and still is gayer than the West. But in a different way. None of that western men marrying other men faggotty nonsense. Just fun, wholesome man on man action and men grooming younger men and boys so they can partake of the adult stuff later on in life.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Forbes
    @BB753

    Like the Spartans...

    Replies: @BB753

  42. @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Yes, that is the answer, and is even endorsed in Cheryl Benard's article, though she shies away from the obvious implications:


    This brings us to a third, more compelling and quite disturbing theory—the one that my Afghan friend, the court translator, puts forward. On the basis of his hundreds of interactions with these young men in his professional capacity over the past several years, he believes to have discovered that they are motivated by a deep and abiding contempt for Western civilization. To them, Europeans are the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils, as are all the other things one can take from them: housing, money, passports. Their laws don’t matter, their culture is uninteresting and, ultimately, their civilization is going to fall anyway to the horde of which one is the spearhead. No need to assimilate, or work hard, or try to build a decent life here for yourself—these Europeans are too soft to seriously punish you for a transgression, and their days are numbered.
     
    Indeed, that one paragraph, particularly the second half, could easily displace a million pages of left-liberal hand-wringing over immigration and thereby massively increase public understanding. Therefore expect this article to be suppressed and it's contents to be "debunked" (i.e., factlessly declared inadmissible in the court of public opinion).

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @BB753, @Mike Tre, @Malla, @Anonymous, @Forbes

    Thanks.

  43. It’s almost like the system of law and order set up for Austrians doesn’t perform as well with Afghans. How could anyone imagine that a clannish society set up on concentric circles of loyalty living under cultural precepts of Wahhabism could produce men who might create a logic of assaulting outgroup women once they realise that the expected retribution from those women’s men doesn’t come and the Austrian police don’t mete it out in their stead. You have to ask yourself, at that scale, is a brutal justice system producing this mentality or is it a response to it?

    The Austrian police didn’t because they don’t make a distinction between Austrians and foreigners and they don’t do it in part because you’re not supposed to suggest Austria belongs to Austrians. But those Afghan men think differently and if you try to explain that those women don’t belong to anyone they’ll just smirk. Those men were actively making war on the host society at the lowest intensity they could without inviting a bullet.

    There is a line that the cost of justice is freedom and the cost of freedom is justice. But the amount you have to pay is predicated on the people you’re working with.

    People innately don’t like or trust clannish people like Afghans or Roma and for good reason.

    I’d imagine she has met many children, has seen not observed that mentality even in small children with the glint not of charm but psychopathy in their eyes? The mild discomfort she feels when she sees these children and her innate response is to think so many of the boys look like bullies or trouble-makers? No, she suppresses it and thinks it can’t be so. She doesn’t mean the ones past late adolescence… It’s one thing to think those women can be assaulted, it’s another to actually do it.

  44. @Achmed E. Newman
    Heh! I'm ahead of you on this one, simply because I've been seeing links to this very same article all over the small part of the internet I've perused the last few days, and I don't read near as much as you do. I like Polistra's joke above, but, no, this lady is in no danger of becoming based. She gives the people every excuse in the book and makes it out like there's just something wrong with this very small subset of people (what about the, what is it, millions, of Pakistanis in England?)

    Further, my personal and professional life has endowed me with many Afghan and Afghan American friends, and there is nothing collectively psychopathic about them. They are doctors, shopkeepers, owners of Japanese restaurants, airport sedan drivers, entrepreneurs, IT experts, salesladies at Macy’s—they’re like everyone else.
     
    Sure, salesladies at Macy's ... why do we need Afghan salesladies at Macy's?

    ***. Spoiler Alert ***:

    Anyway, movie-wise, I've been behind, and I finally watched the 2nd half of The Man Who Would Be King. Sean Connery got into the power of being a god there, doling out wisdom like Solomon. Contrary from what I'd just read, he didn't want the girl for sex that bad. (Otherwise he and Peachy would have gotten chicks earlier, in the military campaign.) He was really into this whole Siskander/Alexander saga, so he wanted an heir to leave to them. The girl was pretty enough, though - in the credits I saw that her last name was Caine. Whaaa? Did Michael Caine marry a native (Moroccan, as that's when the "Afghanistan" parts of the movie were filmed), or did she get darkened up for the movie?

    That was just one more theme the writer put in there - criminals can never seem to quit cold turkey when they are ahead. Of course, it wasn't additional criminal acts that did these 2 in (almost), but, man, if it were just about the girl(s), why not buy up that one chick Roxanne on the way out of the country for not even 1% of your riches? Get her her own mule and take her out with you, if it's that important.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Steve Sailer

    Lady Shakira Caine was born in Guyana of Indian Muslim descent. Her and Sir Michael have been married for about 50 years now.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    Maybe you already wrote this, but she could be darker than the other folks in the movie and not even look Afghan (Pashtun or whatever). . Of course, they were all actors and extras anyway, and lots of it was filmed in Morocco, so I don't even know ...

    You sure don't run into too many people from Guyana, but there is a lady at the auto parts store who is from Paraguay. I am not in a hotbed (formerly) melting-pot city or anything either. Do we have enough DIVERSITY yet? (She was amazed I know where Paraguay is, but then I'm not as geographically-challenged as your average auto parts customer, haha.)

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

  45. @PhysicistDave
    I've been mulling over a couple questions lately:

    A) Who on earth are the tens of thousands of American civilians supposedly still in Afghanistan?

    Surely not tourists! My guess is mainly civilian military contractors -- among them soldiers who figured they could get paid a lot more as contractors than as official military.

    And probably some idiot NGO employees who lacked the sense to leave in a timely manner.

    And perhaps some Afghan natives who have acquired US citizenship.

    A great power defends its citizens. But the US citizens left in Afghanistan cannot be an ordinary American family visiting from Des Moines.

    B) We are told that we have to protect the Afghans who "helped" us, but isn't the whole idea that we were there to "help" the people of Afghanistan?

    I suppose the answer is that this is a tacit admission that the whole nation-building thing was always a joke.

    I'm not objecting to getting the people out who were most closely associated with us -- e.g., the translators.

    But it might be nice if the whole discussion -- concerning the American citizens still in country and the Afghans who helped us -- were a bit more open and transparent.

    Replies: @Ed Case, @The Alarmist, @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Tony massey, @AndrewR, @nebulafox, @Morton's toes, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @Jtgw

    The New York Post ran an article on ten Americans stuck in Afghanistan, and each of the ten appeared to be an Afghan who had gotten American papers.

    • Agree: Sean
    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Steve Sailer

    The Irish papers are full of this stuff. “Irishman stranded in Egypt, Irish couple can’t get out of Syria after visiting on holiday.” It’s always a native of the country where they are trapped that has gotten an Irish passport under the benevolent auspices of Alan Shatter.

    Replies: @Juvenalis

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Steve Sailer

    As I might have mentioned, I used to work in a Middle Eastern country that while not exactly sedate, was far from "war-torn". I would estimate that among the Western passport holders working there, the ratio of Western citizens born of "heritage Western" ancestry, compared to Western citizens born of non-Western heritage, compared to non-Westerners who somehow got Western papers, was about 1 : 1 : 3. I imagine that as a place gets more "war-torn", the first category diminishes while the last category increases.

    I would add that most, if not all, of those in the last category had other other passports as well, so if Western State Departments and Foreign Offices concerned themselves with those who only have a Western passport versus those who have a Western passport among other passports, they would find they suddenly have a lot less to worry about.

    I would also add that the foreigners-as-paper-citizens phenomenon was most pronounced among the British Commonwealth passport holders (especially UK, Canada, Australia) while the US and continental European passport holders were closer to what one might traditionally expect. But this was a couple decades ago, and I suspect things have moved in the Commonwealth direction all across the West since then.

    , @Mr Mox
    @Steve Sailer

    If I was a corrupt Afghan government worker or military person (yes, I know, I repeat myself) American papers would be on top of my list of nice-to-have things.

  46. @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Yes, that is the answer, and is even endorsed in Cheryl Benard's article, though she shies away from the obvious implications:


    This brings us to a third, more compelling and quite disturbing theory—the one that my Afghan friend, the court translator, puts forward. On the basis of his hundreds of interactions with these young men in his professional capacity over the past several years, he believes to have discovered that they are motivated by a deep and abiding contempt for Western civilization. To them, Europeans are the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils, as are all the other things one can take from them: housing, money, passports. Their laws don’t matter, their culture is uninteresting and, ultimately, their civilization is going to fall anyway to the horde of which one is the spearhead. No need to assimilate, or work hard, or try to build a decent life here for yourself—these Europeans are too soft to seriously punish you for a transgression, and their days are numbered.
     
    Indeed, that one paragraph, particularly the second half, could easily displace a million pages of left-liberal hand-wringing over immigration and thereby massively increase public understanding. Therefore expect this article to be suppressed and it's contents to be "debunked" (i.e., factlessly declared inadmissible in the court of public opinion).

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @BB753, @Mike Tre, @Malla, @Anonymous, @Forbes

    She sounds as if she’s in an unhappy marriage to an Afghan.

  47. @PhysicistDave
    I've been mulling over a couple questions lately:

    A) Who on earth are the tens of thousands of American civilians supposedly still in Afghanistan?

    Surely not tourists! My guess is mainly civilian military contractors -- among them soldiers who figured they could get paid a lot more as contractors than as official military.

    And probably some idiot NGO employees who lacked the sense to leave in a timely manner.

    And perhaps some Afghan natives who have acquired US citizenship.

    A great power defends its citizens. But the US citizens left in Afghanistan cannot be an ordinary American family visiting from Des Moines.

    B) We are told that we have to protect the Afghans who "helped" us, but isn't the whole idea that we were there to "help" the people of Afghanistan?

    I suppose the answer is that this is a tacit admission that the whole nation-building thing was always a joke.

    I'm not objecting to getting the people out who were most closely associated with us -- e.g., the translators.

    But it might be nice if the whole discussion -- concerning the American citizens still in country and the Afghans who helped us -- were a bit more open and transparent.

    Replies: @Ed Case, @The Alarmist, @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Tony massey, @AndrewR, @nebulafox, @Morton's toes, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @Jtgw

    My guess is mainly civilian military contractors —

    Right.

    I suppose the answer is that this is a tacit admission that the whole nation-building thing was always a joke.

    Sure, nation is an organic growth. You can’t “build”, say, a tomato.

  48. @Almost Missouri
    @Sean

    That's what the MSM wants you to believe after it turned out that Trump's plan to withdraw from Afghanistan was massively popular with the American people. But that's not what Biden said or did at any time in the prior nineteen years. All those years he was a reliable shill for more war and more US commitment. His "major" disagreement with Obama was that he wanted 20,000 more troops rather than 40,000 more troops. (Obama compromised on 30,000. Hey, Leadership!)

    They are trying to rewrite history right under your nose. Don't let them.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/hammer-and-tickle/#comment-4848298

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe, @Sean

    You’re on a roll today – keep it going!

  49. @Polistra


    no one wanted to provide the right wing with fodder for nationalist agitation
     
    "Better our wives and daughters should be raped than anyone think we might be racist."

    Mollie Tibbetts's dad comes to mind. He's the norm now, not the exception.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Alden, @JohnnyWalker123, @Veteran Aryan

    From the penultimate paragraph quoted by Steve:

    According to Austrian police statistics, Syrian refugees cause fewer than 10% of sexual assault cases. Afghans, whose numbers are comparable, are responsible for a stunning half of all cases.

    Hey there, blonde and brunette Austrian feminists: this is how elites value your personal safety in your own hometown. On your next social media post, be sure to thank the average military-age Syrian migrant for raping people like you at only one-fifth the rate of his average Afghan counterpart.

    Native Austrian rapists should be given place of pride in the Fourth of July Parades in Linz, Salzburg, and Vienna. Their rarity makes them a credit to the white race.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @ic1000

    I know Denmark is different from Austria, but they're both (somewhat unwilling) migrant destinations in the EU.

    https://twitter.com/Yorkshire_Hiker/status/1428958009976410113

    Afghans: "At least we're not Somalis!"

  50. @The Alarmist
    @PhysicistDave

    Well, they ain’t all NGO angels ...


    'I thought I was a goner': Ex-British soldier turned illegal alcohol salesman, 56, reveals how he broke out of a Kabul jail in his FLIP FLOPS before dashing through blood-soaked streets to catch a plane back to Britain

    An ex-British soldier turned illegal alcohol salesman has revealed how he broke out of a jail in Kabul in his flip flops before dashing through blood-soaked streets to catch a plane back to Britain.

    Ian Cameron, 56, who had been arrested in March with over £30,000 worth of illegal alcohol, recalled phoning his wife Sally to say his final goodbyes as the Taliban seized the Presidential Palace in Afghanistan's capital city on Sunday.

    ...

     

    source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9913609/Ex-British-soldier-reveals-broke-Kabul-jail-FLIP-FLOPS-catching-plane-UK.html

    I love how they turn his story into a tear-jerker. Greatest criminal story since Les Mis ... can’t wait for the ALW musical of this guy’s harrowing adventure.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Verymuchalive, @Jack Armstrong

    Top-tier grifter writing in the Daily Mail, eh? What’s this bullshit about “blood-soaked street”. Did the US conduct predator strikes or something?

  51. @PhysicistDave
    I've been mulling over a couple questions lately:

    A) Who on earth are the tens of thousands of American civilians supposedly still in Afghanistan?

    Surely not tourists! My guess is mainly civilian military contractors -- among them soldiers who figured they could get paid a lot more as contractors than as official military.

    And probably some idiot NGO employees who lacked the sense to leave in a timely manner.

    And perhaps some Afghan natives who have acquired US citizenship.

    A great power defends its citizens. But the US citizens left in Afghanistan cannot be an ordinary American family visiting from Des Moines.

    B) We are told that we have to protect the Afghans who "helped" us, but isn't the whole idea that we were there to "help" the people of Afghanistan?

    I suppose the answer is that this is a tacit admission that the whole nation-building thing was always a joke.

    I'm not objecting to getting the people out who were most closely associated with us -- e.g., the translators.

    But it might be nice if the whole discussion -- concerning the American citizens still in country and the Afghans who helped us -- were a bit more open and transparent.

    Replies: @Ed Case, @The Alarmist, @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Tony massey, @AndrewR, @nebulafox, @Morton's toes, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @Jtgw

    One of the 🇺🇸 citizens there, or at least he was a few weeks ago, is a guy from Hilton head sc that works on/services communication equipment. He’s been there for years.
    My Guess is he is a CIA contractor and has prolly fuck all to do with communications.
    He did work for at&t for a number of years prior tho.
    Who knows what he does? My guess is he’s prolly safely ensconced in the new regime’s communications.
    And so it goes.

  52. @Anonymous
    @El Dato


    “I understand that the British officer firmly rejected the request,” Rogan added.
     
    Haha! I'll bet that response was worth listening to.

    Replies: @El Dato

    I reckon “The 51st State”, scene at 14:44 applies

    [MORE]

    • Thanks: The Wild Geese Howard
  53. @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Yes, that is the answer, and is even endorsed in Cheryl Benard's article, though she shies away from the obvious implications:


    This brings us to a third, more compelling and quite disturbing theory—the one that my Afghan friend, the court translator, puts forward. On the basis of his hundreds of interactions with these young men in his professional capacity over the past several years, he believes to have discovered that they are motivated by a deep and abiding contempt for Western civilization. To them, Europeans are the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils, as are all the other things one can take from them: housing, money, passports. Their laws don’t matter, their culture is uninteresting and, ultimately, their civilization is going to fall anyway to the horde of which one is the spearhead. No need to assimilate, or work hard, or try to build a decent life here for yourself—these Europeans are too soft to seriously punish you for a transgression, and their days are numbered.
     
    Indeed, that one paragraph, particularly the second half, could easily displace a million pages of left-liberal hand-wringing over immigration and thereby massively increase public understanding. Therefore expect this article to be suppressed and it's contents to be "debunked" (i.e., factlessly declared inadmissible in the court of public opinion).

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @BB753, @Mike Tre, @Malla, @Anonymous, @Forbes

    “To them, Europeans are the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils,”

    Benard herself being one of those consensual spoils, I suppose.

  54. @Redneck farmer
    @Polistra

    Sorry, meant to hit LOL.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Actually, you can switch the selected reaction. It’s a palimpsest: Just react again and the old entry will be replaced.

  55. @Anonymous
    There's been surprisingly little comment on the real reason behind the Afghani debacle - namely the massive population growth in Afghanistan which, in thorough Malthusian fashion, has outstripped the means of supporting it, thus engendering the norm of violence and conflict. Similarly, in Syria, the enormous population growth of past decades, and the resulting immiseration provided the underlying factor to the anti Assad rebellion.

    Likely the appalling bloodshed and criminality seen in Mexico and central America can be ascribed to the same cause.

    The moral here is that the third world is a continual state of violence,cane these Malthusian conflicts are liable to spring up at any time, catching western politicians unawares.
    Due to the prevailing Economist/lefty 'woke' consensus amongst the western elite, the western response will be to allow full unimpeded access to the west for the 'victims' of these conflicts.

    Take note that today's massive population growth is in black Africa, and there, surely, the bloody conflicts of the near future will occur.
    Add to this the woke/Economist view that whites 'owe' blacks in particular a special favor and special debt .........

    Replies: @El Dato, @Pericles, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad

    Both Iraq and Afghanistan have seen huge population increases while the US waged war on them or whatever was going on.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Pericles

    You can add Yemen to that list.

  56. @Percival
    @Anonymous

    Imagine going to some decadent Western nation from your Third World failed state and discovering that you can actually get away with molesting their women. Or more precisely: you can molest their women, the courts will chew you out a little and then, worst case scenario, send you to a cosy prison where living conditions are still 5x better than they were in your home country. And I imagine the Afghans were probably sharing stories of such molestations. Maybe there was even some one-upmanship involved: how much can I get away with, etc.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Clyde

    Or more precisely: you can molest their women, the courts will chew you out a little and then, worst case scenario, send you to a cosy prison where living conditions are still 5x better than they were in your home country.

    Plus all these European lux prisons allow in Muslim preachers who will justify their raping of European women. Plus a few of the prisoners will be self styled preachers who will tell them the same. All done in their native languages, so how do the prison authorities know? If they do know they dismiss it to collect their paychecks, without ginning up controversy.

    I hear Scandinavian prisons are the most lux/deluxe for Muslims and all prisoners. They even have halal pizza party nights on Friday! (joking)

  57. @Steve Sailer
    @PhysicistDave

    The New York Post ran an article on ten Americans stuck in Afghanistan, and each of the ten appeared to be an Afghan who had gotten American papers.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Almost Missouri, @Mr Mox

    The Irish papers are full of this stuff. “Irishman stranded in Egypt, Irish couple can’t get out of Syria after visiting on holiday.” It’s always a native of the country where they are trapped that has gotten an Irish passport under the benevolent auspices of Alan Shatter.

    • Replies: @Juvenalis
    @JMcG

    Neocon Fox News TV host Sean Hannity was interviewing an “American stranded in Afghanistan by Joe Biden”. The "American" with an exotic name did not know a lick of English and had to speak through an interpreter to translate. But apparently this U.S. citizen who likely never set foot on U.S. soil has paperwork asserting he is just as much an American as a native-born American like Omar Mateen.

    The erstwhile President of Afghanistan, Ashraf Ghani, has been a U.S. citizen since the 1960s; his two adult children, both born in the U.S., are dual Afghan-U.S. citizens.

    His Lebanese Maronite Christian wife, exiled First Lady of Afghanistan Rula Saadah Ghani, is a triple-citizen of Afghanistan, Lebanon, and the United States.

    Presumably they would all be considered “Americans stranded in Afghanistan” by U.S. media/politicians, if not for Ghani's personal presidential privilege to jet out of Kabul with bags full of cash headed for Abu Dhabi at first sign of Taliban trouble.

    (Mr. Ghani supposedly renounced his U.S. loyalties as part of his 2009 election campaign for President of Afghanistan, although there's no proof he actually formally surrendered his U.S. passport—especially since Ghani lost that race, finishing in 4th place with 2.9% of the vote, behind Hamid Karzai's 49.7%, Abdullah Abdullah's 30.6% and Ramazan Bashardost's 10.5%. Yet in that sham democracy he went from single-digits to winning an obviously illusory popular mandate to lead Afghanistan in 2014.)

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  58. @ic1000
    @Polistra

    From the penultimate paragraph quoted by Steve:


    According to Austrian police statistics, Syrian refugees cause fewer than 10% of sexual assault cases. Afghans, whose numbers are comparable, are responsible for a stunning half of all cases.
     
    Hey there, blonde and brunette Austrian feminists: this is how elites value your personal safety in your own hometown. On your next social media post, be sure to thank the average military-age Syrian migrant for raping people like you at only one-fifth the rate of his average Afghan counterpart.

    Native Austrian rapists should be given place of pride in the Fourth of July Parades in Linz, Salzburg, and Vienna. Their rarity makes them a credit to the white race.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    I know Denmark is different from Austria, but they’re both (somewhat unwilling) migrant destinations in the EU.

    Afghans: “At least we’re not Somalis!”

    • Thanks: Charon, JohnnyWalker123
  59. Since this article is not recent, and I believe the European public actually have sort of figured this out already, I think US Unz readers should instead read it with an eye towards predicting coming rape stats in Provo.

  60. @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    Why is she certain these men are all Afghan? Britain has long had a very similar problem with men from much-larger Pakistan (just how many emigrants can Afghanistan withstand?), and, at the risk of revealing myself to be a terrible racist, I'm sure there are large swathes of the map where these "Afghan" sexual mores are prevalent. Is a man who'd rape a woman on a train too pure to lie about his refugee status?

    ...there is also a certain lack of true identification with Western notions of bureaucratic and biographic fact [edit: I am going to try this line when next I'm audited]; many, if not most, Afghans currently living in the West have some lies of necessity in their past. Whichever of them arrived first—a father, an older brother—generally had to make up a supposed family name and a birthdate on the fly, because back home, until one generation ago most people did not have a last name and birth dates were not recorded.
     
    Their names are fake, and the birthdays - but not the country of origin, no...

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Expletive Deleted, @Richard B, @Peter Akuleyev

    ” Britain has long had a very similar problem with men from much-larger Pakistan”.

    Almost exclusively from the much smaller (390 sq. ml.) district of Mirpur. Possibly because they’re some of the ugliest, most backward and obsessively inbred hillbilly people on the planet within the “Caucasian” category. And likely to continue in those traditions over here whether they want to or not.
    Check the mugshot galleries (reluctantly) published by the UK press on conviction. Makes Andy Ngo’s pages of Antifa baghead mutants look like fashion plates.
    Hard to date English girls when you look like that, and your family hasn’t arranged it for you.
    Easier to kidnap them, mob-handed. And pay off/inhibit the police and local politicos by getting them up to their necks in it, and the heroin trade they also run.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Expletive Deleted


    ” Britain has long had a very similar problem with men from much-larger Pakistan”.
    Almost exclusively from the much smaller (390 sq. ml.) district of Mirpur. Possibly because they’re some of the ugliest, most backward and obsessively inbred hillbilly people on the planet within the “Caucasian” category. And likely to continue in those traditions over here whether they want to or not.
    Check the mugshot galleries (reluctantly) published by the UK press on conviction. Makes Andy Ngo’s pages of Antifa baghead mutants look like fashion plates.
     
    And why are these Mirpur mutants in England?
    A dam was built in Mirpur that dispossessed thousands of farmers and rural types. The British master stroke of genius to bring these poor buggers and buggerers to work in the Northern textile mills where England was short of workers.
    The Mangla Dam is the sixth-largest dam in the world

    Mirpur migration accelerated after the construction of the Mangla Dam in 1966, which submerged vast areas of farmland in the Mirpur district.[3]---Wikipedia
     

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @Expletive Deleted

    I've never seen a more physically hideous ethnic group. They look like victims of a science experiment that went horribly wrong.

  61. @PhysicistDave
    I've been mulling over a couple questions lately:

    A) Who on earth are the tens of thousands of American civilians supposedly still in Afghanistan?

    Surely not tourists! My guess is mainly civilian military contractors -- among them soldiers who figured they could get paid a lot more as contractors than as official military.

    And probably some idiot NGO employees who lacked the sense to leave in a timely manner.

    And perhaps some Afghan natives who have acquired US citizenship.

    A great power defends its citizens. But the US citizens left in Afghanistan cannot be an ordinary American family visiting from Des Moines.

    B) We are told that we have to protect the Afghans who "helped" us, but isn't the whole idea that we were there to "help" the people of Afghanistan?

    I suppose the answer is that this is a tacit admission that the whole nation-building thing was always a joke.

    I'm not objecting to getting the people out who were most closely associated with us -- e.g., the translators.

    But it might be nice if the whole discussion -- concerning the American citizens still in country and the Afghans who helped us -- were a bit more open and transparent.

    Replies: @Ed Case, @The Alarmist, @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Tony massey, @AndrewR, @nebulafox, @Morton's toes, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @Jtgw

    All the refugees belong in Israel

  62. @Steve Sailer
    @PhysicistDave

    The New York Post ran an article on ten Americans stuck in Afghanistan, and each of the ten appeared to be an Afghan who had gotten American papers.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Almost Missouri, @Mr Mox

    As I might have mentioned, I used to work in a Middle Eastern country that while not exactly sedate, was far from “war-torn”. I would estimate that among the Western passport holders working there, the ratio of Western citizens born of “heritage Western” ancestry, compared to Western citizens born of non-Western heritage, compared to non-Westerners who somehow got Western papers, was about 1 : 1 : 3. I imagine that as a place gets more “war-torn”, the first category diminishes while the last category increases.

    I would add that most, if not all, of those in the last category had other other passports as well, so if Western State Departments and Foreign Offices concerned themselves with those who only have a Western passport versus those who have a Western passport among other passports, they would find they suddenly have a lot less to worry about.

    I would also add that the foreigners-as-paper-citizens phenomenon was most pronounced among the British Commonwealth passport holders (especially UK, Canada, Australia) while the US and continental European passport holders were closer to what one might traditionally expect. But this was a couple decades ago, and I suspect things have moved in the Commonwealth direction all across the West since then.

    • Thanks: Charon
  63. @Steve Sailer
    @PhysicistDave

    The New York Post ran an article on ten Americans stuck in Afghanistan, and each of the ten appeared to be an Afghan who had gotten American papers.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Almost Missouri, @Mr Mox

    If I was a corrupt Afghan government worker or military person (yes, I know, I repeat myself) American papers would be on top of my list of nice-to-have things.

    • Agree: Jack Armstrong
  64. @Clyde
    @Dieter Kief


    I repeated my task last week et voilá – Hadmut Danisch, one of the most read German bloggers did publish it and write about it (I’ve Worked with Refugees for Decades. Europe’s Afghan Crime Wave Is Mind-Boggling) at great length.
     
    Here it is from your German blogger. Just use Google Translate on it
    https://www.danisch.de/blog/2021/08/20/mind-boggling/

    Replies: @El Dato

    I sure hope Alden can’t into German otherwise our ears will bleed.

    Teddybärbahnhofsteherinnen

    Oy!

    (“female person waiting at the train station where either teddy bears wait or are delivered”)

    This reaches heights of a Tarantino soliloquy:

    Was mich an einen Feldwebel erinnert. Im Grundwehrdienst hatten wir einen, der, obwohl normaler Deutscher, den Spitznamen „Der Afghane“ hatte, weil die im Geschäftszimmer das Maul nicht halten konnten und überall rumerzählten, dass in seiner Personalakte stehe, dass er in Kabul, Afghanistan geboren sei. Hat aber mal erzählt, dass er sich daran sowieso nicht erinnern kann, und dass seine Eltern damals halt im Ausland arbeiten waren, und das damals noch ein recht angenehmes, modernes, reisetaugliches Land gewesen sei, über das man nichts negatives hätte sagen können, die Eltern es im Gegenteil sogar als Vorteil angesehen hätten, da mal eine Zeit zu verbringen. Das muss damals recht schön dort gewesen sein. Er meinte mal, der charakteristischere Aspekt als dort geboren zu sein, sei ohnehin, dort gezeugt worden zu sein. Von einem VW-Bus hat er nichts gesagt. Aber irgendwo stand mal, dass der VW Bus in der Rangordnung der Fahrzeuge, in denen Kinder gezeugt wurden, ganz weit oben stehe.

    Ah! The good old times of Schmidt/Kohl, Baader-Meinhof and banging in a clapped-out VW bus in Afghanistan.

    • LOL: Dieter Kief
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @El Dato


    Tedddybärbahnhofsteherinnen
     
    - these are excited women with teddy bears standing at the train station waiting for the refugees to arrive in pure joy...

    ...since prostitutes do also stand at or near train stations, and since "ein Steher" is a virile Mann and - even more into fantasy land - einen stehen haben means a hard on - - - this - öh - a bit lengthy - - öh - - - neologism - - - by Hadmut Danisch does indeed resonate rather tarantinoesk - or in this direction (makes me think of poet Wolf Wondratschek too - if not of Klaus Kinski - - - or Charles Bukowski... - he would have smiled quite a bit about this whole affair...
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @El Dato


    Teddybärbahnhofsteherinnen

     

    Na wenn du heute zum Bahnhof gehst
    Sie sind sich einer großen Überraschung sicher.
    Wenn du heute zum Bahnhof gehst
    Du solltest dich besser verkleiden!

    Für jeden Bären, den es jemals gab
    Werde sich dort sicher versammeln, weil
    heute ist der Tag
    die Teddybären haben ihr Picknick.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxFIGWm9M6w
    , @Dieter Kief
    @El Dato

    Just one more subtext to Hadmut Danischs neologism Teddybärbahnhofsteherinnen -

    to gawk at the Teddybear (the little bear) is German slang for: stare at the vagina.

    (I could go on - because quite a few of those female Teddybeartrainstationbystanders - were actually 68 leftists and - the most important intellectual figure for German 68ers - is a man called Theodor W. Adorno. Now: Adorno means to adore and Theodor was by the insiders known as Teddy and teddy is the short form of Teddybear indeed - and Teddy Adorno was a womanizer... - - - - (this is a novel in pillform - - - - and this novel exists - cum grano salis: Die Rothschilds by Hermann Peter Piwitt - - - is not least about the wwomeenizer Theodor W. Adorno and the German nineteen-fifties' "philosemitism as a form to overcompensate for the nazi-horors"

  65. @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Lady Shakira Caine was born in Guyana of Indian Muslim descent. Her and Sir Michael have been married for about 50 years now.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Maybe you already wrote this, but she could be darker than the other folks in the movie and not even look Afghan (Pashtun or whatever). . Of course, they were all actors and extras anyway, and lots of it was filmed in Morocco, so I don’t even know …

    You sure don’t run into too many people from Guyana, but there is a lady at the auto parts store who is from Paraguay. I am not in a hotbed (formerly) melting-pot city or anything either. Do we have enough DIVERSITY yet? (She was amazed I know where Paraguay is, but then I’m not as geographically-challenged as your average auto parts customer, haha.)

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    There are quite a lot of people from Guyana in the New York area. You will also find some in Florida, but they are often older people who have retired from the New York area and are living in the retirement areas.

    Guyana has a population of well under a million people, and many of the people who have left the country are middle-class professionals such as doctors, dentists, and nurses.

    More than 50% of Guyanese are of East Indian descent.

    Guyana has recently had a tremendous windfall with massive offshore oil discoveries that are being developed by Exxon, and Guyanese politicians are excitedly talking about making Guyana the Dubai of South America!

    Everyone is going to get 40 acres and a laptop.

    I don't know how Michael Caine's wife got the surname Caine, as Michael Caine is the stage name of Maurice Micklewhite.

    I don't know why anybody would want to emigrate from Paraguay to the US, but perhaps it is because Paraguay has no beaches, being landlocked.

    Replies: @Malla, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

  66. Relocated peasants in urban areas tends to translate into second generation gang culture, whether you are dealing with Irish, Italians, Vietnamese, Mexicans, Salvadorans, Turks, or Pakistanis. Nothing new there. Social dysfunction among immigrant groups where a large portion of the immigrant wave suffers from PTSD is also a thing, as anybody who has dealt with the Khmer diaspora around Seattle can attest to.

    What’s different, among other things, is the leadership of a country systematically brutalizing its own people for 18 months as a matter of policy, economically and socially, only to be shocked when the result is a severe lack of interest in relocating millions of refugees and mass immunity to moral hectoring. It speaks volumes.

    • Replies: @greysquirrell
    @nebulafox

    So why aren't refugees from all the other regions of the world , that live in Western Europe, behaving the same way?

  67. @Desiderius

    U.S. diplomat Zalmay Khalilzad, who was U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan under GW Bush.
     
    According to this:

    https://twitter.com/Outsideness/status/1428946028875587589?s=20

    he's played a much more high-profile role recently.

    Replies: @El Dato, @El Dato, @MEH 0910

    From the same outfit

  68. @The Alarmist
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I realise Babhu was supposedly Pakistani, but the blurb about Afghani restaurateurs reminded me of this ... and our attempts to “help” these poor souls:

    https://youtu.be/tUPH5OhXC1A

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks, Alarmist. I’ve seen it multiple times. This particular episode is not so much pro-illegal immigration as just showing Jerry (and often times 2 of the other 3, Elaine and George) wanting to do good with funny circumstances from the other plot lines spoiling it all. I think the immigration aspect is only included because the show is about NY City.

    Were the writers trying to push immigration? Perhaps a slight big, but they sure were reasonably fair about it by including Jerry’s bit that made fun of the Emma Lazarus 0’th Constitutional Amendment poem:

    Interestingly, a clip of this is no longer available on youtube. Lots of stuff does go away after a while, but, no, I’m not paranoid …

  69. @PhysicistDave
    I've been mulling over a couple questions lately:

    A) Who on earth are the tens of thousands of American civilians supposedly still in Afghanistan?

    Surely not tourists! My guess is mainly civilian military contractors -- among them soldiers who figured they could get paid a lot more as contractors than as official military.

    And probably some idiot NGO employees who lacked the sense to leave in a timely manner.

    And perhaps some Afghan natives who have acquired US citizenship.

    A great power defends its citizens. But the US citizens left in Afghanistan cannot be an ordinary American family visiting from Des Moines.

    B) We are told that we have to protect the Afghans who "helped" us, but isn't the whole idea that we were there to "help" the people of Afghanistan?

    I suppose the answer is that this is a tacit admission that the whole nation-building thing was always a joke.

    I'm not objecting to getting the people out who were most closely associated with us -- e.g., the translators.

    But it might be nice if the whole discussion -- concerning the American citizens still in country and the Afghans who helped us -- were a bit more open and transparent.

    Replies: @Ed Case, @The Alarmist, @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Tony massey, @AndrewR, @nebulafox, @Morton's toes, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @Jtgw

    1) Bureaucratic inertia. Also, incompetent ass covering. Just listen to Milley and Company. Occam’s razor applies here. Lord, how the US military has fallen.

    2) If we really wanted to help the people of Afghanistan, we’d let the Taliban come in and restore order. Don’t think I labor under any delusions about the Taliban’s nature, least of all the notion that they are interested in liberal international values and can be hectored like schoolchildren about them. That’s cold. It’s cruel. But it’s also inevitable. What’s the alternative? Staying forever and further postponing the inevitable in a pointless effort to prevent the ISI from having its satellite? It’s worth pointing out that a lot of Afghans-the kind who do not get air time on CNN-may dislike the Taliban, but dislike chaos and war more, no different to how your average Vietnamese peasant felt in another lost war.

    I’m perfectly OK with getting Afghans who worked for us out, both on a moral and practical level. That’s doable, because the Taliban is aware that the last thing they want to do is provoke the US too badly here. But we’ve spent trillions of dollars trying to do something impossible: make Afghanistan into Not Afghanistan. Those trillions of dollars could have been spent at home on the American people, of course, but as ever, the American government and cultural elite view America as an endless supply of resources to be tapped for ideological fixations, not a nation and specific place which they have a duty to. Having failed in their endeavors abroad, they now bring them home: and the consequences are only just beginning.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @nebulafox

    MAGA: Make America Great like Afghanistan.

    , @Forbes
    @nebulafox


    the American government and cultural elite view America as an endless supply of resources to be tapped for ideological fixations, not a nation and specific place which they have a duty to.
     
    As I've been saying for some time, America is just a place on a map--an economic zone where parasites devour its resources. No longer a nation-state, the US is barely a country--it's a region where competing oligarchic groups battle for control (not unlike the medieval world).

    Replies: @AnotherDad

  70. @PhysicistDave
    I've been mulling over a couple questions lately:

    A) Who on earth are the tens of thousands of American civilians supposedly still in Afghanistan?

    Surely not tourists! My guess is mainly civilian military contractors -- among them soldiers who figured they could get paid a lot more as contractors than as official military.

    And probably some idiot NGO employees who lacked the sense to leave in a timely manner.

    And perhaps some Afghan natives who have acquired US citizenship.

    A great power defends its citizens. But the US citizens left in Afghanistan cannot be an ordinary American family visiting from Des Moines.

    B) We are told that we have to protect the Afghans who "helped" us, but isn't the whole idea that we were there to "help" the people of Afghanistan?

    I suppose the answer is that this is a tacit admission that the whole nation-building thing was always a joke.

    I'm not objecting to getting the people out who were most closely associated with us -- e.g., the translators.

    But it might be nice if the whole discussion -- concerning the American citizens still in country and the Afghans who helped us -- were a bit more open and transparent.

    Replies: @Ed Case, @The Alarmist, @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Tony massey, @AndrewR, @nebulafox, @Morton's toes, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @Jtgw

    An acquaintance of mine is the proud father of an evangelical Christian missionary woman in Afghanistan. He is very proud of her. When I heard this my unspoken response was to mentally flip a coin to decide which of the two of them was more insane.

    Just kidding about the last part. Obviously she is the more insane. He is a 10 and she is turned up to 11.

  71. @nebulafox
    @PhysicistDave

    1) Bureaucratic inertia. Also, incompetent ass covering. Just listen to Milley and Company. Occam's razor applies here. Lord, how the US military has fallen.

    2) If we really wanted to help the people of Afghanistan, we'd let the Taliban come in and restore order. Don't think I labor under any delusions about the Taliban's nature, least of all the notion that they are interested in liberal international values and can be hectored like schoolchildren about them. That's cold. It's cruel. But it's also inevitable. What's the alternative? Staying forever and further postponing the inevitable in a pointless effort to prevent the ISI from having its satellite? It's worth pointing out that a lot of Afghans-the kind who do not get air time on CNN-may dislike the Taliban, but dislike chaos and war more, no different to how your average Vietnamese peasant felt in another lost war.

    I'm perfectly OK with getting Afghans who worked for us out, both on a moral and practical level. That's doable, because the Taliban is aware that the last thing they want to do is provoke the US too badly here. But we've spent trillions of dollars trying to do something impossible: make Afghanistan into Not Afghanistan. Those trillions of dollars could have been spent at home on the American people, of course, but as ever, the American government and cultural elite view America as an endless supply of resources to be tapped for ideological fixations, not a nation and specific place which they have a duty to. Having failed in their endeavors abroad, they now bring them home: and the consequences are only just beginning.

    Replies: @BB753, @Forbes

    MAGA: Make America Great like Afghanistan.

  72. @The Alarmist
    @PhysicistDave

    Well, they ain’t all NGO angels ...


    'I thought I was a goner': Ex-British soldier turned illegal alcohol salesman, 56, reveals how he broke out of a Kabul jail in his FLIP FLOPS before dashing through blood-soaked streets to catch a plane back to Britain

    An ex-British soldier turned illegal alcohol salesman has revealed how he broke out of a jail in Kabul in his flip flops before dashing through blood-soaked streets to catch a plane back to Britain.

    Ian Cameron, 56, who had been arrested in March with over £30,000 worth of illegal alcohol, recalled phoning his wife Sally to say his final goodbyes as the Taliban seized the Presidential Palace in Afghanistan's capital city on Sunday.

    ...

     

    source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9913609/Ex-British-soldier-reveals-broke-Kabul-jail-FLIP-FLOPS-catching-plane-UK.html

    I love how they turn his story into a tear-jerker. Greatest criminal story since Les Mis ... can’t wait for the ALW musical of this guy’s harrowing adventure.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Verymuchalive, @Jack Armstrong

    So this is what Daniel Dravot and Peachy Carnehan would have been doing in the 21st Century! They would be too savvy to get caught, though. I expect they would have scarpered months ago, with the money, and be relaxing by the pool in Goa.

  73. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    Maybe you already wrote this, but she could be darker than the other folks in the movie and not even look Afghan (Pashtun or whatever). . Of course, they were all actors and extras anyway, and lots of it was filmed in Morocco, so I don't even know ...

    You sure don't run into too many people from Guyana, but there is a lady at the auto parts store who is from Paraguay. I am not in a hotbed (formerly) melting-pot city or anything either. Do we have enough DIVERSITY yet? (She was amazed I know where Paraguay is, but then I'm not as geographically-challenged as your average auto parts customer, haha.)

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    There are quite a lot of people from Guyana in the New York area. You will also find some in Florida, but they are often older people who have retired from the New York area and are living in the retirement areas.

    Guyana has a population of well under a million people, and many of the people who have left the country are middle-class professionals such as doctors, dentists, and nurses.

    More than 50% of Guyanese are of East Indian descent.

    Guyana has recently had a tremendous windfall with massive offshore oil discoveries that are being developed by Exxon, and Guyanese politicians are excitedly talking about making Guyana the Dubai of South America!

    Everyone is going to get 40 acres and a laptop.

    I don’t know how Michael Caine’s wife got the surname Caine, as Michael Caine is the stage name of Maurice Micklewhite.

    I don’t know why anybody would want to emigrate from Paraguay to the US, but perhaps it is because Paraguay has no beaches, being landlocked.

    • Replies: @Malla
    @Jonathan Mason

    Guyana, where Indians and Blacks mostly do not get along. Blacks want freebie stuff and "give me dats" after lazing around the beach all day and trying to muh dick random black and brown wimmin. But unfortunately instead of nice, guild ridden White people they clashed into cunning, miserly Indians. Lazy, violent Blacks Vs cunning, mercantile, miserly Indians. Mama Mia, Whata paradise!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXSQysclFT0

    The State of Black African Guyanese

    Blacks are pissed they cannot economically compete with Indians.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jonathan Mason


    I don’t know why anybody would want to emigrate from Paraguay to the US, but perhaps it is because Paraguay has no beaches, being landlocked.
     
    Uhhh, same reasons you have not already migrated down to Ecuador, which DOES have beaches, along with cool climates up in the Andes to boot.

    Think about why you did not leave JAX for Ecuador already, Jonathan, and maybe it'll come to you why people around the world (STILL) want to get here.

    Thanks for the info on Guyana. When I was looking at bug-out places, all 3 Guianas seemed so out-of-the-way and forgotten to have been perfect, but the demographics are, to put it nicely, UNSOUND.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Mason


    There are quite a lot of people from Guyana in the New York area. You will also find some in Florida, but they are often older people who have retired from the New York area and are living in the retirement areas.
     
    I knew a couple of Guyanese cousins in Minnesota. The younger was pure Indo and quite immature. The other was Indo-black, likely with some Brit in him as well. He was married, and confessed that his baby daughter cried when she saw other Guyanese, but was all right with everyone else.

    I don’t know how Michael Caine’s wife got the surname Caine, as Michael Caine is the stage name of Maurice Micklewhite.
     
    Lucille LeSueur became Joan Crawford. Sometimes your name can be too glamorous for show biz.

    I don’t know why anybody would want to emigrate from Paraguay to the US, but perhaps it is because Paraguay has no beaches, being landlocked.
     
    Top Beaches in Paraguay

    Don't know if you can swim at Monday Falls, Iguaçu's little sister, but it would be exciting. The name means "Thief River Falls" in Guaraní. (The Minnesota falls got their similar name after Chippewa land was stolen-- by the Dakotas.)


    Benjamin Hockin Brusquetti has swum for both Paraguay and GB in the Olympics. His brother Charles Daniel Hockin Brusquetti has also represented the nation.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Paraguayan_records_in_swimming

    Michigan is landlocked yet has plenty of beaches, and twice as many lighthouses as the UK.

    "How many lighthouses are there in the UK? There are more than 60 lighthouses dotted around the UK."

    https://www.countryfile.com/go-outdoors/days-out/britains-top-landmark-lighthouses/

    "There are 129 lighthouses within the state of Michigan."

    http://michiganlighthouseguide.com/list.html
     

    Replies: @Ancient Briton, @Expletive Deleted

  74. • Agree: El Dato
  75. @Anonymous
    The answer is simple and obvious:

    Their own women are precious and protected and 'belong' to their own people - more specifically their husbands.

    The women of the kuffar, the aliens - who dress and act like disobedient whores - are fair game.

    Replies: @Percival, @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @Malla, @Buffalo Joe, @Uncle Dan

    Bingo. Exactly.

  76. @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Yes, that is the answer, and is even endorsed in Cheryl Benard's article, though she shies away from the obvious implications:


    This brings us to a third, more compelling and quite disturbing theory—the one that my Afghan friend, the court translator, puts forward. On the basis of his hundreds of interactions with these young men in his professional capacity over the past several years, he believes to have discovered that they are motivated by a deep and abiding contempt for Western civilization. To them, Europeans are the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils, as are all the other things one can take from them: housing, money, passports. Their laws don’t matter, their culture is uninteresting and, ultimately, their civilization is going to fall anyway to the horde of which one is the spearhead. No need to assimilate, or work hard, or try to build a decent life here for yourself—these Europeans are too soft to seriously punish you for a transgression, and their days are numbered.
     
    Indeed, that one paragraph, particularly the second half, could easily displace a million pages of left-liberal hand-wringing over immigration and thereby massively increase public understanding. Therefore expect this article to be suppressed and it's contents to be "debunked" (i.e., factlessly declared inadmissible in the court of public opinion).

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @BB753, @Mike Tre, @Malla, @Anonymous, @Forbes

    Exactly. That is how most non Whites thinks.

  77. Here in Germany, Syrians, who comprise 0.9% of the population, commit 12.2% of the violent offenses. I imagine the disparity is even worse among Afghans.

    • Replies: @Pharaoh
    @countenance


    Here in Germany, Syrians, who comprise 0.9% of the population, commit 12.2% of the violent offenses. I imagine the disparity is even worse among Afghans.
     
    In France its the North African muslims who are similarly overrepresented. Syrians, Afghans, Berbers etc of MENA are 'white caucasians' in the US census.

    In North America native Americans and indigenous Canadians are heavily over-represented in the crime statistics. More so than African-Americans.

    In Malaysia it is the Indian/Hindu minority that is most heavily involved in crime.


    Clearly there is no universal correlation between crime rates and race, contradicting HBD dogma.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  78. @Anonymous
    There's been surprisingly little comment on the real reason behind the Afghani debacle - namely the massive population growth in Afghanistan which, in thorough Malthusian fashion, has outstripped the means of supporting it, thus engendering the norm of violence and conflict. Similarly, in Syria, the enormous population growth of past decades, and the resulting immiseration provided the underlying factor to the anti Assad rebellion.

    Likely the appalling bloodshed and criminality seen in Mexico and central America can be ascribed to the same cause.

    The moral here is that the third world is a continual state of violence,cane these Malthusian conflicts are liable to spring up at any time, catching western politicians unawares.
    Due to the prevailing Economist/lefty 'woke' consensus amongst the western elite, the western response will be to allow full unimpeded access to the west for the 'victims' of these conflicts.

    Take note that today's massive population growth is in black Africa, and there, surely, the bloody conflicts of the near future will occur.
    Add to this the woke/Economist view that whites 'owe' blacks in particular a special favor and special debt .........

    Replies: @El Dato, @Pericles, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad

    Nobody wants to talk about this. It’s taboo on the right as well as the left. (I got into a big argument with a tradcat conservative after pointing out that population growth is a major cause of the migration crisis afflicting the world.)

  79. @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    There are quite a lot of people from Guyana in the New York area. You will also find some in Florida, but they are often older people who have retired from the New York area and are living in the retirement areas.

    Guyana has a population of well under a million people, and many of the people who have left the country are middle-class professionals such as doctors, dentists, and nurses.

    More than 50% of Guyanese are of East Indian descent.

    Guyana has recently had a tremendous windfall with massive offshore oil discoveries that are being developed by Exxon, and Guyanese politicians are excitedly talking about making Guyana the Dubai of South America!

    Everyone is going to get 40 acres and a laptop.

    I don't know how Michael Caine's wife got the surname Caine, as Michael Caine is the stage name of Maurice Micklewhite.

    I don't know why anybody would want to emigrate from Paraguay to the US, but perhaps it is because Paraguay has no beaches, being landlocked.

    Replies: @Malla, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    Guyana, where Indians and Blacks mostly do not get along. Blacks want freebie stuff and “give me dats” after lazing around the beach all day and trying to muh dick random black and brown wimmin. But unfortunately instead of nice, guild ridden White people they clashed into cunning, miserly Indians. Lazy, violent Blacks Vs cunning, mercantile, miserly Indians. Mama Mia, Whata paradise!!!

    The State of Black African Guyanese

    Blacks are pissed they cannot economically compete with Indians.

  80. @Desiderius

    U.S. diplomat Zalmay Khalilzad, who was U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan under GW Bush.
     
    According to this:

    https://twitter.com/Outsideness/status/1428946028875587589?s=20

    he's played a much more high-profile role recently.

    Replies: @El Dato, @El Dato, @MEH 0910

    • Thanks: Gabe Ruth
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @MEH 0910

    The unpacking of that particular pic has been going on for a week now.

    One of the images of the 21st century.

  81. @PhysicistDave
    I've been mulling over a couple questions lately:

    A) Who on earth are the tens of thousands of American civilians supposedly still in Afghanistan?

    Surely not tourists! My guess is mainly civilian military contractors -- among them soldiers who figured they could get paid a lot more as contractors than as official military.

    And probably some idiot NGO employees who lacked the sense to leave in a timely manner.

    And perhaps some Afghan natives who have acquired US citizenship.

    A great power defends its citizens. But the US citizens left in Afghanistan cannot be an ordinary American family visiting from Des Moines.

    B) We are told that we have to protect the Afghans who "helped" us, but isn't the whole idea that we were there to "help" the people of Afghanistan?

    I suppose the answer is that this is a tacit admission that the whole nation-building thing was always a joke.

    I'm not objecting to getting the people out who were most closely associated with us -- e.g., the translators.

    But it might be nice if the whole discussion -- concerning the American citizens still in country and the Afghans who helped us -- were a bit more open and transparent.

    Replies: @Ed Case, @The Alarmist, @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Tony massey, @AndrewR, @nebulafox, @Morton's toes, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @Jtgw

    Saw something from U.K. Daily Mail that there are 15,000 American civilians in Afghanistan .

    The State Department has lots of civilians in every fifth world hell hole doing non military things. American agriculture department employees teaching primitives how to farm irrigation suitable profitable livestock and crops. Vast numbers of American medics setting up hospitals and clinics nursing schools public health departments etc Afghanistan isn’t advanced enough for engineers etc designing sewer and water systems except in the biggest cities. But the state department has thousands of Americans all over the world building infrastructure that the primitives can’t build themselves.

    It’s not just women’s and gay activists. Many of the Americans are agriculture consultants and the equivalent of an American department of water and power or state highway building and maintenance department or school district headquarters county hospital and clinic system.

    These other activities are run by the state department but the people involved aren’t state department employees. They’re from department of agriculture, Bechtel, numerous government agencies and private companies. Private companies that make a fortune. Government agencies that should be helping Americans.

    All using the American taxpayers money to attempt to drag primitives into the modern world as our own infrastructure is falling apart.

    The missionary instinct is strong.

    • Thanks: JerseyJeffersonian
  82. @El Dato
    While President Biden finds time to issue more sanctions against participants in Nordstream 2 (I thought this had been clarified? Apparently not) more item out of Afghankirk Pretzeltown:

    ‘IMPOSSIBLE’ to evacuate Afghan allies by end of August: EU foreign policy chief says Americans create problems


    The EU’s top diplomat has declared it “impossible” for Europe to evacuate all of its Afghan allies from Kabul by the end of August. Josep Borrell blamed American troops at the city’s airport for preventing evacuees from leaving.

    Nearly a week after the fall of Kabul to Taliban forces, the US and other Western countries are still evacuating their citizens from Hamid Karzai International Airport, which remains the only lifeline between Kabul and the West. After thousands of desperate Afghans stormed the runway and attempted to get aboard American transport planes by any means necessary – some dying in the process – the airport is now ringed by US troops, with Taliban fighters outside also beefing up security.

    That security has hampered EU efforts to evacuate European citizens, Josep Borrell, the EU’s high representative for foreign affairs, told AFP on Saturday.

    “The problem is access to the airport,” Borrell explained. “The Americans' control and security measures are very strong. We complained. We asked them to show more flexibility. We are unable to get our employees through.”
     

    US airlifts Americans from 200m beyond Kabul airport perimeter, after US general allegedly ‘embarrassed’ by British rescue ops

    Commander of the 82nd Airborne Division has told his British colleague to stop “embarrassing” the US troops guarding the Kabul airport by venturing into the city to rescue people, at least according to one Washington columnist.

    Major General Christopher Donahue has asked the commander of the 22nd Special Air Service (SAS) Regiment of the British Army to stop their operations beyond the perimeter of the Hamid Karzai International Airport (HKIA), because they were “embarrassing the United States military in the absence of similar US military operations,” Washington Examiner columnist Tom Rogan claimed on Friday.

    “I understand that the British officer firmly rejected the request,” Rogan added.
     


    Rogan blamed the situation on a “bureaucratic tug of war between the State Department, Pentagon, and White House,” and said that relations with the British, French and other allied governments in Kabul were made worse by US failure “to communicate adequately, or in some cases, to communicate at all, on their intentions and actions.” However, they all admit that only the US military could provide the airfield defense and air traffic control currently at HKIA.
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @LondonBob, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Bragadocious

    Commander of the 82nd Airborne Division has told his British colleague to stop “embarrassing” the US troops guarding the Kabul airport by venturing into the city to rescue people, at least according to one Washington columnist.

    Hopefully the commander of 22 SAS borrowed a page from President Bolsonaro’s book and told Major General Donohue to, “…stop being such a fag.”

    • Replies: @Piglet
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    In British slang, a "fag" is a cigarette. Their terms for a fruit loop include "poofter" and "Sausage Nigel."

    Replies: @Veteran Aryan

  83. @Expletive Deleted
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    " Britain has long had a very similar problem with men from much-larger Pakistan".

    Almost exclusively from the much smaller (390 sq. ml.) district of Mirpur. Possibly because they're some of the ugliest, most backward and obsessively inbred hillbilly people on the planet within the "Caucasian" category. And likely to continue in those traditions over here whether they want to or not.
    Check the mugshot galleries (reluctantly) published by the UK press on conviction. Makes Andy Ngo's pages of Antifa baghead mutants look like fashion plates.
    Hard to date English girls when you look like that, and your family hasn't arranged it for you.
    Easier to kidnap them, mob-handed. And pay off/inhibit the police and local politicos by getting them up to their necks in it, and the heroin trade they also run.

    Replies: @Clyde, @JohnnyWalker123

    ” Britain has long had a very similar problem with men from much-larger Pakistan”.
    Almost exclusively from the much smaller (390 sq. ml.) district of Mirpur. Possibly because they’re some of the ugliest, most backward and obsessively inbred hillbilly people on the planet within the “Caucasian” category. And likely to continue in those traditions over here whether they want to or not.
    Check the mugshot galleries (reluctantly) published by the UK press on conviction. Makes Andy Ngo’s pages of Antifa baghead mutants look like fashion plates.

    And why are these Mirpur mutants in England?
    A dam was built in Mirpur that dispossessed thousands of farmers and rural types. The British master stroke of genius to bring these poor buggers and buggerers to work in the Northern textile mills where England was short of workers.
    The Mangla Dam is the sixth-largest dam in the world

    Mirpur migration accelerated after the construction of the Mangla Dam in 1966, which submerged vast areas of farmland in the Mirpur district.[3]—Wikipedia

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    @Clyde

    So long-independent Pakistan decides to drown the fuckers, and they flee to England.
    They're still coming. To England, not Greater Pakistan.

    An apologist for her tribe was beefing away on Radio Woke (BBC) the other day, saying the English textile operatives (among whom I count my own antecedents) had done it to themselves, after the War. Nyah nyaah richly deserved etc. historic Vengeance etc. (the modern narrative, full nine yards and another beltfull for YT).

    Story was, the demobbbed returning (mostly female) loom workers didn't like the new automated looms (have to run about 50, instead of the 8 to a dozen my grandma and greatgrandma were required to "mind", or they'd be "down the road". Silkspinners usually). Fewer jobs, same absurdly low pay or less (which is why their men were coalminers, or metalbashers).
    The owners shipped the new robolooms out to the post-independence subcontinent, where a lot of the cotton and jute etc. grew, and trained the locals to not break them.

    Like the West Indians and Indian Indians brought in to break the London and other transport strikes by Tory governments (Windrush war heroes my arse, scabs the lot of them), these desperadoes would lick the ground the textile owners strutted on, for pennies.
    So the production was eventually re-onshored, with the new looms, and the ageing, skilled (but untrained as robot-minders) native Luddites told to go f themselves unless they'd accept penury.

    Then the whole industry collapsed, almost overnight, in the mid 6os. Leaving the wogs surplus to requirements. By anyone, anyone at all. Couldn't even lift a shovel or lay a brick.
    Luckily for them they could clag on to the benificent native "stamp"-payers and their old and hard-won insurance and pension schemes.
    And they told all their relatives back in Kashmir.

    Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @Clyde

  84. @Ed Case
    @PhysicistDave

    To work in Afghanistan for an NGO such as the UN:
    1. You've got to be a Muslim
    2. You've got to have Insurance
    3. You've got to hire local security men.
    Told this by a bloke who went there in 2005 building schools or something similar in the provinces for the UN.
    The 3 points are non negotiable for UN contractors in Afghanistan..

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    The 3 points are non negotiable for UN contractors in Afghanistan..

    Oh well, based on those 3 points it sounds like they fit right in withthe locals.

    If that’s the case, we probably should just leave them there.

  85. @Polistra


    no one wanted to provide the right wing with fodder for nationalist agitation
     
    "Better our wives and daughters should be raped than anyone think we might be racist."

    Mollie Tibbetts's dad comes to mind. He's the norm now, not the exception.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Alden, @JohnnyWalker123, @Veteran Aryan

    Does anyone know what Tibbett does for a living? Small slaughter house that employs only \$100 a week for 72 hours a week illegal aliens ? Farm labor contractor? Slum landlord who houses illegals in barns? Preacher who runs a non profit charity? Lobbyist for bilingual education from kindergarten on?

  86. @The Alarmist
    @PhysicistDave

    Well, they ain’t all NGO angels ...


    'I thought I was a goner': Ex-British soldier turned illegal alcohol salesman, 56, reveals how he broke out of a Kabul jail in his FLIP FLOPS before dashing through blood-soaked streets to catch a plane back to Britain

    An ex-British soldier turned illegal alcohol salesman has revealed how he broke out of a jail in Kabul in his flip flops before dashing through blood-soaked streets to catch a plane back to Britain.

    Ian Cameron, 56, who had been arrested in March with over £30,000 worth of illegal alcohol, recalled phoning his wife Sally to say his final goodbyes as the Taliban seized the Presidential Palace in Afghanistan's capital city on Sunday.

    ...

     

    source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9913609/Ex-British-soldier-reveals-broke-Kabul-jail-FLIP-FLOPS-catching-plane-UK.html

    I love how they turn his story into a tear-jerker. Greatest criminal story since Les Mis ... can’t wait for the ALW musical of this guy’s harrowing adventure.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Verymuchalive, @Jack Armstrong

    White privilege.

  87. @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Yes, that is the answer, and is even endorsed in Cheryl Benard's article, though she shies away from the obvious implications:


    This brings us to a third, more compelling and quite disturbing theory—the one that my Afghan friend, the court translator, puts forward. On the basis of his hundreds of interactions with these young men in his professional capacity over the past several years, he believes to have discovered that they are motivated by a deep and abiding contempt for Western civilization. To them, Europeans are the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils, as are all the other things one can take from them: housing, money, passports. Their laws don’t matter, their culture is uninteresting and, ultimately, their civilization is going to fall anyway to the horde of which one is the spearhead. No need to assimilate, or work hard, or try to build a decent life here for yourself—these Europeans are too soft to seriously punish you for a transgression, and their days are numbered.
     
    Indeed, that one paragraph, particularly the second half, could easily displace a million pages of left-liberal hand-wringing over immigration and thereby massively increase public understanding. Therefore expect this article to be suppressed and it's contents to be "debunked" (i.e., factlessly declared inadmissible in the court of public opinion).

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @BB753, @Mike Tre, @Malla, @Anonymous, @Forbes

    It doesn’t stop them from – literally – fighting and dying, falling off the wings of transport airplanes, lying, cheating, wheedling, begging, humiliating and abasing themselves etc etc for the ‘right’ to live amongst those they have contempt for.

  88. @El Dato
    While President Biden finds time to issue more sanctions against participants in Nordstream 2 (I thought this had been clarified? Apparently not) more item out of Afghankirk Pretzeltown:

    ‘IMPOSSIBLE’ to evacuate Afghan allies by end of August: EU foreign policy chief says Americans create problems


    The EU’s top diplomat has declared it “impossible” for Europe to evacuate all of its Afghan allies from Kabul by the end of August. Josep Borrell blamed American troops at the city’s airport for preventing evacuees from leaving.

    Nearly a week after the fall of Kabul to Taliban forces, the US and other Western countries are still evacuating their citizens from Hamid Karzai International Airport, which remains the only lifeline between Kabul and the West. After thousands of desperate Afghans stormed the runway and attempted to get aboard American transport planes by any means necessary – some dying in the process – the airport is now ringed by US troops, with Taliban fighters outside also beefing up security.

    That security has hampered EU efforts to evacuate European citizens, Josep Borrell, the EU’s high representative for foreign affairs, told AFP on Saturday.

    “The problem is access to the airport,” Borrell explained. “The Americans' control and security measures are very strong. We complained. We asked them to show more flexibility. We are unable to get our employees through.”
     

    US airlifts Americans from 200m beyond Kabul airport perimeter, after US general allegedly ‘embarrassed’ by British rescue ops

    Commander of the 82nd Airborne Division has told his British colleague to stop “embarrassing” the US troops guarding the Kabul airport by venturing into the city to rescue people, at least according to one Washington columnist.

    Major General Christopher Donahue has asked the commander of the 22nd Special Air Service (SAS) Regiment of the British Army to stop their operations beyond the perimeter of the Hamid Karzai International Airport (HKIA), because they were “embarrassing the United States military in the absence of similar US military operations,” Washington Examiner columnist Tom Rogan claimed on Friday.

    “I understand that the British officer firmly rejected the request,” Rogan added.
     


    Rogan blamed the situation on a “bureaucratic tug of war between the State Department, Pentagon, and White House,” and said that relations with the British, French and other allied governments in Kabul were made worse by US failure “to communicate adequately, or in some cases, to communicate at all, on their intentions and actions.” However, they all admit that only the US military could provide the airfield defense and air traffic control currently at HKIA.
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @LondonBob, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Bragadocious

    Tom Rogan is a Brit stationed in America, which automatically means he’s MI6. Nothing he writes should be believed or given any credence whatsoever.

  89. @Pericles
    @Anonymous

    Both Iraq and Afghanistan have seen huge population increases while the US waged war on them or whatever was going on.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    You can add Yemen to that list.

  90. @MEH 0910
    @Desiderius

    https://twitter.com/jimgeraghty/status/1426989459158061061

    Replies: @El Dato

    The unpacking of that particular pic has been going on for a week now.

    One of the images of the 21st century.

  91. @Reg Cæsar

    Cheryl Benard is an Austrian-born academic
     
    Wikipedia says New Orleans. "Cheryl" doesn't sound very Teutonic.

    She is the wife of Afghanistan-born U.S. diplomat Zalmay Khalilzad, who was U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan under GW Bush.
     
    Their sons bear her surname. How cuck can you get?


    Her writing partner is one Edit Schlaffer, the founder of Women Without Borders, which is too close to "women without boundaries" for comfort. (Edit is apparently German for Edith, not her job description.)


    I've bought a couple of mugs from the Unemployed Philosophers Guild, only to find that some of what I paid went to support the likes of Women for Afghan Women.

    Well, that can't be worse than their other "donees", with creepy names like ActBlue LLC, Broadway Cares, Everytown for Gun Safety, and Jewish Voice for Peace. As well as old standbys MoveOn, Planned Parenthood, and the SPLC.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @epebble

    “Their sons bear her surname. How cuck can you get?”

    Twenty or so years ago, say around 2001, it was probably better to be an American or European called Benard than to be called Khalilzad. Maybe not so now.

    How could she tell the future?

  92. @Almost Missouri
    @Sean

    That's what the MSM wants you to believe after it turned out that Trump's plan to withdraw from Afghanistan was massively popular with the American people. But that's not what Biden said or did at any time in the prior nineteen years. All those years he was a reliable shill for more war and more US commitment. His "major" disagreement with Obama was that he wanted 20,000 more troops rather than 40,000 more troops. (Obama compromised on 30,000. Hey, Leadership!)

    They are trying to rewrite history right under your nose. Don't let them.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/hammer-and-tickle/#comment-4848298

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe, @Sean

    History being what the Obama adoring press wrote? Not what Rory Stewart says and he was an adviser to Hillary Clinton on Afghanistan so knows some of the inner workings. As VP Biden was given a position worth the proverbial bucket of warm spit and could hardly defy Obama openly. All those who mocked Biden are now strictly armchair and he hasn’t forgotten the way his views were dismissed; it’s only his short term memory that is faulty.

  93. in virtually every field, the ability to predict the future makes you a “visionary” and most likely rich: finance, sports, medicine, science, technology, politics etc.

    There is one exception(as far as I know): race.

  94. Cheryl Benard is an Austrian-born academic.

    New Orleans born, according to Wikipedia. Not that they are infallible.

    At first, the incidents were downplayed or hushed up—no one wanted to provide the right wing with fodder for nationalist agitation,….

    i.e., no one wanted to admit that the right wing was right.

    According to Austrian police statistics, Syrian refugees cause fewer than 10 percent of sexual assault cases.

    Despite being only 0.2% of Austria’s population (as of 2015). Why, they’re model Burgers.

  95. @PhysicistDave
    I've been mulling over a couple questions lately:

    A) Who on earth are the tens of thousands of American civilians supposedly still in Afghanistan?

    Surely not tourists! My guess is mainly civilian military contractors -- among them soldiers who figured they could get paid a lot more as contractors than as official military.

    And probably some idiot NGO employees who lacked the sense to leave in a timely manner.

    And perhaps some Afghan natives who have acquired US citizenship.

    A great power defends its citizens. But the US citizens left in Afghanistan cannot be an ordinary American family visiting from Des Moines.

    B) We are told that we have to protect the Afghans who "helped" us, but isn't the whole idea that we were there to "help" the people of Afghanistan?

    I suppose the answer is that this is a tacit admission that the whole nation-building thing was always a joke.

    I'm not objecting to getting the people out who were most closely associated with us -- e.g., the translators.

    But it might be nice if the whole discussion -- concerning the American citizens still in country and the Afghans who helped us -- were a bit more open and transparent.

    Replies: @Ed Case, @The Alarmist, @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Tony massey, @AndrewR, @nebulafox, @Morton's toes, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @Jtgw

    But it might be nice if the whole discussion — concerning the American citizens still in country and the Afghans who helped us — were a bit more open and transparent.

    It would be nice if discussion of a lot of things in contemporary America were more open and transparent: The discussion of COVID, for example. Or of 9/11 – the whole (ostensible) rationale for getting into Afghanistan in the first place.

  96. @The Alarmist
    Are we sure it is Afghan men she is writing about? Those migrants might have looked old and weathered as they rolled into the train stations of Europe, but we were assured the girls were welcoming mere youths.

    https://zeitjung.objects.frb.io/app/uploads/2015/08/Refugees_Titelbild.jpg


    I’m not sure the women of Europe should be allowed to complain. Ya’ know ... it is White privilege to be free from rape.

    Replies: @Clyde, @El Dato, @SunBakedSuburb, @donut, @Undisclosed, @Alt Right Moderate

    Are the bubbles coming out of their ears?

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Given all the hot air expended around “helping” the poor refugees, and the propensity for hot air to rise, I’d wager the bubbles are coming from a lower region of their anatomies.

  97. “To them, Europeans are the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils, as are all the other things one can take from them: housing, money, passports. Their laws don’t matter, their culture is uninteresting and, ultimately, their civilization is going to fall anyway to the horde of which one is the spearhead. No need to assimilate, or work hard, or try to build a decent life here for yourself—these Europeans are too soft to seriously punish you for a transgression, and their days are numbered.”

    These sound like true practitioners of the one true faith, Islam. Historically, this has been a major tenet of Islam: The house of Peace (the believers) vs the house of War (the unbelievers), and ever eternal conflict until Islam emerges triumphant around the world.

  98. @Thomas
    Is not being burka'ed just considered a de facto invitation to these men? I remember in the aftermath of Lara Logan's sexual assault in Egypt, Gavin McInnes mentioned that the only place Arab Muslim men generally see blondes is in porn, so the men assume they're all hot and ready to go as a matter of course.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Is not being burka’ed just considered a de facto invitation to these men?

    Remember the fire at a Saudi girls’ school where several died because they were not properly dressed to go outside? In most of the world, men would see that as an occasion for gallantry, and do their best to save lives, at risk to their own.

    Semites are an alien race, however. Their men would see it as an opportunity for something else.

    Covering up women says more about their opinion of men than about that of women. And it is no doubt based upon centuries of experience with those men.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Mecca_girls%27_school_fire

  99. @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    There are quite a lot of people from Guyana in the New York area. You will also find some in Florida, but they are often older people who have retired from the New York area and are living in the retirement areas.

    Guyana has a population of well under a million people, and many of the people who have left the country are middle-class professionals such as doctors, dentists, and nurses.

    More than 50% of Guyanese are of East Indian descent.

    Guyana has recently had a tremendous windfall with massive offshore oil discoveries that are being developed by Exxon, and Guyanese politicians are excitedly talking about making Guyana the Dubai of South America!

    Everyone is going to get 40 acres and a laptop.

    I don't know how Michael Caine's wife got the surname Caine, as Michael Caine is the stage name of Maurice Micklewhite.

    I don't know why anybody would want to emigrate from Paraguay to the US, but perhaps it is because Paraguay has no beaches, being landlocked.

    Replies: @Malla, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    I don’t know why anybody would want to emigrate from Paraguay to the US, but perhaps it is because Paraguay has no beaches, being landlocked.

    Uhhh, same reasons you have not already migrated down to Ecuador, which DOES have beaches, along with cool climates up in the Andes to boot.

    Think about why you did not leave JAX for Ecuador already, Jonathan, and maybe it’ll come to you why people around the world (STILL) want to get here.

    Thanks for the info on Guyana. When I was looking at bug-out places, all 3 Guianas seemed so out-of-the-way and forgotten to have been perfect, but the demographics are, to put it nicely, UNSOUND.

  100. https://static.grainger.com/rp/s/is/image/Grainger/20VG89_AS01?hei=536&wid=536

    Pro tip to Provo gals. Carry one of these small 110-decibel alarms. (I do.) “Deviate your path” is the first line of defense where pigmentation is a cue. (I do.) But in this case, pigmentation will not be a cue to deviate. Therefore, the alarm becomes crucial. A tough decision: When a refugee walks up to you but has not done anything yet. Maybe he is a dentist asking for directions to the dental seminar. You would have to set off the alarm and risk insulting the dentist. Risk it. If he is really a dentist, he will understand.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  101. @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    Why is she certain these men are all Afghan? Britain has long had a very similar problem with men from much-larger Pakistan (just how many emigrants can Afghanistan withstand?), and, at the risk of revealing myself to be a terrible racist, I'm sure there are large swathes of the map where these "Afghan" sexual mores are prevalent. Is a man who'd rape a woman on a train too pure to lie about his refugee status?

    ...there is also a certain lack of true identification with Western notions of bureaucratic and biographic fact [edit: I am going to try this line when next I'm audited]; many, if not most, Afghans currently living in the West have some lies of necessity in their past. Whichever of them arrived first—a father, an older brother—generally had to make up a supposed family name and a birthdate on the fly, because back home, until one generation ago most people did not have a last name and birth dates were not recorded.
     
    Their names are fake, and the birthdays - but not the country of origin, no...

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Expletive Deleted, @Richard B, @Peter Akuleyev

    Is a man who’d rape a woman on a train too pure to lie about his refugee status?

    Exactly!

    From the article:

    To them, Europeans are the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils, as are all the other things one can take from them: housing, money, passports. Their laws don’t matter, their culture is uninteresting and, ultimately, their civilization is going to fall anyway to the horde of which one is the spearhead.

    Of course! Which is why The Hostile Elite invited them in the first place.

    • Agree: Expletive Deleted
  102. The line that rings true & explains it all is at the end: “No need to assimilate, or work hard, or try to build a decent life here for yourself—these Europeans are too soft to seriously punish you for a transgression, and their days are numbered.”

    When the flood of Afghan refugees hits the USA how much of this rapey behavior will we tolerate?? We’ve already being suffering w/ a disappropriate amount of feral violent activity from our orc population for decades now. Send all the Afghans to the west coast they want to atone for their so called white guilt & privilege they won’t mind.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    @cosMICjester

    Send them to Detroit. Civilize the place.

  103. @The Alarmist
    Are we sure it is Afghan men she is writing about? Those migrants might have looked old and weathered as they rolled into the train stations of Europe, but we were assured the girls were welcoming mere youths.

    https://zeitjung.objects.frb.io/app/uploads/2015/08/Refugees_Titelbild.jpg


    I’m not sure the women of Europe should be allowed to complain. Ya’ know ... it is White privilege to be free from rape.

    Replies: @Clyde, @El Dato, @SunBakedSuburb, @donut, @Undisclosed, @Alt Right Moderate

    In a way I can see why the police don’t trouble themselves all that much about these fools being raped.

  104. @Reg Cæsar

    Cheryl Benard is an Austrian-born academic
     
    Wikipedia says New Orleans. "Cheryl" doesn't sound very Teutonic.

    She is the wife of Afghanistan-born U.S. diplomat Zalmay Khalilzad, who was U.S. Ambassador to Afghanistan under GW Bush.
     
    Their sons bear her surname. How cuck can you get?


    Her writing partner is one Edit Schlaffer, the founder of Women Without Borders, which is too close to "women without boundaries" for comfort. (Edit is apparently German for Edith, not her job description.)


    I've bought a couple of mugs from the Unemployed Philosophers Guild, only to find that some of what I paid went to support the likes of Women for Afghan Women.

    Well, that can't be worse than their other "donees", with creepy names like ActBlue LLC, Broadway Cares, Everytown for Gun Safety, and Jewish Voice for Peace. As well as old standbys MoveOn, Planned Parenthood, and the SPLC.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @epebble

    How cuck can you get?

    Not at all. It is strategic. Benard is more advantageous than Khalilzad in opening doors of opportunity. Similarly, Naomi Osaka’s parents figured Osaka is more helpful than Francois. Don’t you think if Obama’s parents had thoughtfully named him Barack Dunham, he would have probably avoided the Birth Certificate controversy? Look how far Kamala Harris (and Nikki Haley) have come compared to Bobby Jindal (who is actually much smarter than both Kamala and Nikki). Would Kamala Harris be V.P. today if her name was Kamala Gopalan or Nikki Haley would be considered Presidential aspirant if she were Nikki Randhawa? Politics is a chess game; never fail to grab an advantage.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @epebble

    In Brazil, Juscelino Kubitchek chose to use his mother's name. His father's was the pedestrian Oliveira-- "Olive picker". That's like Smith, Miller, or Taylor here.

    Alien names seem to help in Latin America, where few have much confidence in Iberian leadership capabilities.

    Our Jonathan was drawn to Abdalá Bucaram's Ecuador. Perhaps he hopes Junior takes over.


    Benard is more advantageous than Khalilzad in opening doors of opportunity.
     
    You sure of that? In this day and age?

    Juan Trippe was WASP and Irish, and hated his given name. But it turned out to be quite useful when he did mail flights between Florida and Latin America. That eventually turned into Pan Am.

    Replies: @epebble

  105. @Jonathan Mason
    @Achmed E. Newman

    There are quite a lot of people from Guyana in the New York area. You will also find some in Florida, but they are often older people who have retired from the New York area and are living in the retirement areas.

    Guyana has a population of well under a million people, and many of the people who have left the country are middle-class professionals such as doctors, dentists, and nurses.

    More than 50% of Guyanese are of East Indian descent.

    Guyana has recently had a tremendous windfall with massive offshore oil discoveries that are being developed by Exxon, and Guyanese politicians are excitedly talking about making Guyana the Dubai of South America!

    Everyone is going to get 40 acres and a laptop.

    I don't know how Michael Caine's wife got the surname Caine, as Michael Caine is the stage name of Maurice Micklewhite.

    I don't know why anybody would want to emigrate from Paraguay to the US, but perhaps it is because Paraguay has no beaches, being landlocked.

    Replies: @Malla, @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    There are quite a lot of people from Guyana in the New York area. You will also find some in Florida, but they are often older people who have retired from the New York area and are living in the retirement areas.

    I knew a couple of Guyanese cousins in Minnesota. The younger was pure Indo and quite immature. The other was Indo-black, likely with some Brit in him as well. He was married, and confessed that his baby daughter cried when she saw other Guyanese, but was all right with everyone else.

    I don’t know how Michael Caine’s wife got the surname Caine, as Michael Caine is the stage name of Maurice Micklewhite.

    Lucille LeSueur became Joan Crawford. Sometimes your name can be too glamorous for show biz.

    I don’t know why anybody would want to emigrate from Paraguay to the US, but perhaps it is because Paraguay has no beaches, being landlocked.

    Top Beaches in Paraguay

    Don’t know if you can swim at Monday Falls, Iguaçu’s little sister, but it would be exciting. The name means “Thief River Falls” in Guaraní. (The Minnesota falls got their similar name after Chippewa land was stolen– by the Dakotas.)

    Benjamin Hockin Brusquetti has swum for both Paraguay and GB in the Olympics. His brother Charles Daniel Hockin Brusquetti has also represented the nation.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Paraguayan_records_in_swimming

    Michigan is landlocked yet has plenty of beaches, and twice as many lighthouses as the UK.

    “How many lighthouses are there in the UK? There are more than 60 lighthouses dotted around the UK.”

    https://www.countryfile.com/go-outdoors/days-out/britains-top-landmark-lighthouses/

    “There are 129 lighthouses within the state of Michigan.”

    http://michiganlighthouseguide.com/list.html

    • Replies: @Ancient Briton
    @Reg Cæsar

    Michael Caine legally changed his name.

    , @Expletive Deleted
    @Reg Cæsar


    Lucille LeSueur became Joan Crawford. Sometimes your name can be too glamorous for show biz.
     
    Isn't that the Frog version of "Sweaty Betty"? Although I suppose the French find that glamorous, like pit-hair, smoking and farting.
  106. There are similar ones of Iran under the Shah. His Egyptian wife has said how she used to go in to talk to their cook caught him praying and he tried to hide what he had been doing. When she went to tell the cook what they wanted for dinner, he would avert his eyes because she was in a bikini. “It was a very religious court. We didn’t realize “. Religion is the ultimate military technology.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Sean

    These lovely ladies represent what %age of Afghan women in the 1970s? Maybe 0.2%?

    Replies: @Sean

  107. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Mason


    There are quite a lot of people from Guyana in the New York area. You will also find some in Florida, but they are often older people who have retired from the New York area and are living in the retirement areas.
     
    I knew a couple of Guyanese cousins in Minnesota. The younger was pure Indo and quite immature. The other was Indo-black, likely with some Brit in him as well. He was married, and confessed that his baby daughter cried when she saw other Guyanese, but was all right with everyone else.

    I don’t know how Michael Caine’s wife got the surname Caine, as Michael Caine is the stage name of Maurice Micklewhite.
     
    Lucille LeSueur became Joan Crawford. Sometimes your name can be too glamorous for show biz.

    I don’t know why anybody would want to emigrate from Paraguay to the US, but perhaps it is because Paraguay has no beaches, being landlocked.
     
    Top Beaches in Paraguay

    Don't know if you can swim at Monday Falls, Iguaçu's little sister, but it would be exciting. The name means "Thief River Falls" in Guaraní. (The Minnesota falls got their similar name after Chippewa land was stolen-- by the Dakotas.)


    Benjamin Hockin Brusquetti has swum for both Paraguay and GB in the Olympics. His brother Charles Daniel Hockin Brusquetti has also represented the nation.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Paraguayan_records_in_swimming

    Michigan is landlocked yet has plenty of beaches, and twice as many lighthouses as the UK.

    "How many lighthouses are there in the UK? There are more than 60 lighthouses dotted around the UK."

    https://www.countryfile.com/go-outdoors/days-out/britains-top-landmark-lighthouses/

    "There are 129 lighthouses within the state of Michigan."

    http://michiganlighthouseguide.com/list.html
     

    Replies: @Ancient Briton, @Expletive Deleted

    Michael Caine legally changed his name.

  108. Steve pointed out much of this in re: the elder Boston bomb bro Tamburlaine (sp?) back in 2013– but he wasn’t Afghan (right?)

    So more than nature, it depends on nurture i.e. having a suitable pool of suckers in the New Country

  109. @Reg Cæsar

    Do they merely want to cause momentary female hysteria and touch some forbidden places of a stranger’s body?
     
    [Insert Biden press conference picture here.]

    Replies: @Forbes

    Do they merely want to cause momentary female hysteria and touch some forbidden places of a stranger’s body?

    That’s amazingly passive writing about a gang rape. What’s next? Describing rape as a cultural imperative? Any man who wrote that would be cancelled.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Forbes


    Any man who wrote that would be cancelled.
     
    Cancelled?! That'd be the least of your worries. You may end up listed as one of the MEN OF UNZ! Nobody expects the Alden Inquisition!

    ...

    "Wait, I do!"
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Forbes


    That’s amazingly passive writing about a gang rape.
     
    One of our regular commenters accused Bill Cosby's prosecutors of going overboard, as at most he was guilty of "copping a feel". Here's an account of the judge's instructions to the jury:

    There were three separate charges of aggravated indecent assault, each with slightly different elements to them saying Cosby digitally penetrated Andrea: (1) without her consent, (2) while she was unconscious, and (3) after drugging her without her knowledge to wipe out her resistance.

    The judge told them that in order to find Cosby guilty of this first crime, they needed to be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that four elements were proven, including that she did not consent to what happened. For the second one, that she was unconscious when it happened and thus unable to consent and that Cosby recklessly disregarded that. And for the third, that Cosby not only gave her drugs that wiped away her resistance but that he then "recklessly" disregarded that impairment while assaulting her.

    Nicole Weisensee Egan, Chasing Cosby, p. 228.
     

    One hardly has to be a feminist hysteric to see that this goes well beyond what we called "copping a feel" back in the day. Cosby was rightly convicted. He was released from prison on the kind of uniquely American technicality that you'd be hard-pressed to find elsewhere in the world.

    A wise commentator once pointed out that the once-common claim that the exclusionary rule was the only thing standing between us and dictatorship neglected to mention that only one other country had it. At the time that country, the Philippines, already was a dictatorship.

  110. I am so sick and tired of the US diplomatic corps. I’ll never forget the adoring ovation they gave to newly confirmed SoS HRC when she first strolled into the building.

    The typical egghead is that military guy who ratted-out Trump. It’s a bureaucracy of left-wing academic types who can each speak nine languages but say nothing intelligent in any of them. They’re useful idiots who give cover (maybe only fooling US taxpayers) to CIA troublemakers.

    If we still have any left in Kabul we should maroon them there.

  111. @nebulafox
    @PhysicistDave

    1) Bureaucratic inertia. Also, incompetent ass covering. Just listen to Milley and Company. Occam's razor applies here. Lord, how the US military has fallen.

    2) If we really wanted to help the people of Afghanistan, we'd let the Taliban come in and restore order. Don't think I labor under any delusions about the Taliban's nature, least of all the notion that they are interested in liberal international values and can be hectored like schoolchildren about them. That's cold. It's cruel. But it's also inevitable. What's the alternative? Staying forever and further postponing the inevitable in a pointless effort to prevent the ISI from having its satellite? It's worth pointing out that a lot of Afghans-the kind who do not get air time on CNN-may dislike the Taliban, but dislike chaos and war more, no different to how your average Vietnamese peasant felt in another lost war.

    I'm perfectly OK with getting Afghans who worked for us out, both on a moral and practical level. That's doable, because the Taliban is aware that the last thing they want to do is provoke the US too badly here. But we've spent trillions of dollars trying to do something impossible: make Afghanistan into Not Afghanistan. Those trillions of dollars could have been spent at home on the American people, of course, but as ever, the American government and cultural elite view America as an endless supply of resources to be tapped for ideological fixations, not a nation and specific place which they have a duty to. Having failed in their endeavors abroad, they now bring them home: and the consequences are only just beginning.

    Replies: @BB753, @Forbes

    the American government and cultural elite view America as an endless supply of resources to be tapped for ideological fixations, not a nation and specific place which they have a duty to.

    As I’ve been saying for some time, America is just a place on a map–an economic zone where parasites devour its resources. No longer a nation-state, the US is barely a country–it’s a region where competing oligarchic groups battle for control (not unlike the medieval world).

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Forbes



    the American government and cultural elite view America as an endless supply of resources to be tapped for ideological fixations, not a nation and specific place which they have a duty to.
     
    As I’ve been saying for some time, America is just a place on a map–an economic zone where parasites devour its resources. No longer a nation-state, the US is barely a country–it’s a region where competing oligarchic groups battle for control (not unlike the medieval world).
     
    This.

    Great sentence by nebulafox, great follow on by yourself.

    This is what happens when people take their eye off the ball--policing our borders and leaders. We are ruled by parasites. Their "America" is just the marketplace they are looting right now.
  112. @Clyde
    @Expletive Deleted


    ” Britain has long had a very similar problem with men from much-larger Pakistan”.
    Almost exclusively from the much smaller (390 sq. ml.) district of Mirpur. Possibly because they’re some of the ugliest, most backward and obsessively inbred hillbilly people on the planet within the “Caucasian” category. And likely to continue in those traditions over here whether they want to or not.
    Check the mugshot galleries (reluctantly) published by the UK press on conviction. Makes Andy Ngo’s pages of Antifa baghead mutants look like fashion plates.
     
    And why are these Mirpur mutants in England?
    A dam was built in Mirpur that dispossessed thousands of farmers and rural types. The British master stroke of genius to bring these poor buggers and buggerers to work in the Northern textile mills where England was short of workers.
    The Mangla Dam is the sixth-largest dam in the world

    Mirpur migration accelerated after the construction of the Mangla Dam in 1966, which submerged vast areas of farmland in the Mirpur district.[3]---Wikipedia
     

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    So long-independent Pakistan decides to drown the fuckers, and they flee to England.
    They’re still coming. To England, not Greater Pakistan.

    An apologist for her tribe was beefing away on Radio Woke (BBC) the other day, saying the English textile operatives (among whom I count my own antecedents) had done it to themselves, after the War. Nyah nyaah richly deserved etc. historic Vengeance etc. (the modern narrative, full nine yards and another beltfull for YT).

    Story was, the demobbbed returning (mostly female) loom workers didn’t like the new automated looms (have to run about 50, instead of the 8 to a dozen my grandma and greatgrandma were required to “mind”, or they’d be “down the road”. Silkspinners usually). Fewer jobs, same absurdly low pay or less (which is why their men were coalminers, or metalbashers).
    The owners shipped the new robolooms out to the post-independence subcontinent, where a lot of the cotton and jute etc. grew, and trained the locals to not break them.

    Like the West Indians and Indian Indians brought in to break the London and other transport strikes by Tory governments (Windrush war heroes my arse, scabs the lot of them), these desperadoes would lick the ground the textile owners strutted on, for pennies.
    So the production was eventually re-onshored, with the new looms, and the ageing, skilled (but untrained as robot-minders) native Luddites told to go f themselves unless they’d accept penury.

    Then the whole industry collapsed, almost overnight, in the mid 6os. Leaving the wogs surplus to requirements. By anyone, anyone at all. Couldn’t even lift a shovel or lay a brick.
    Luckily for them they could clag on to the benificent native “stamp”-payers and their old and hard-won insurance and pension schemes.
    And they told all their relatives back in Kashmir.

    • Thanks: JMcG
    • Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    @Expletive Deleted

    Blimey.

    I like to think the end of empire was a factor. Lots of administrators and assorted bigwigs suddenly finding themselves back in the old country, with no coolies pouring them drinks... nek minit...

    , @Clyde
    @Expletive Deleted

    You seem to be in England, so how about this Pakistani scam? I think I am 85%+ correct on this.
    When a Pakistani in UK is ready for marriage, they get a marriage partner from Pakistan. Their family demands this for raw monetary reasons. Due to the father/patriarch of the UK family being paid off handsomely by the Pakistan family. We know why. Because the Pakistan based family now has an immigration foothold in the UK to bring in more members.

    I read one case where part of the payment was to send a Pakistan son to the UK family illegally to work for 5 years for zero wages in the UK family's curry shop, or was it a fish and chips. For just a place to sleep.

    And how about the Pakistanis and other Allah-types who live in the UK 3-6 months of the year while scamming housing benefits and money out of your social welfare system? Not that the USA is much better. In both nations the welfare payment bureaucracy is riddled with foreigners, leftists, anarchists. This is how a "fresh off the boat" foreigner scores a 4-bedroom house or apartment over native Brits.

  113. The number of true things that can’t be mentioned continues to expand. A society that can’t talk plainly about the reasons its citizens are raped or murdered is no longer a society.

    Shower thought: if IQ thinking were not forbidden, savvy U.S. national security analysts in 2000 would have said: “Exporting the core of the American economy to a communist country of a billion people with an average of IQ of 105? Are you kidding? That’s national suicide! No way! In 20 years, they’d take over.”

    Rather than what was said out loud in DC: “Free markets make free peoples.” And what was said quietly on Wall St.: “In the long run, we’ll all be dead.”

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @New Dealer


    Shower thought: if IQ thinking were not forbidden, savvy U.S. national security analysts in 2000 would have said: “Exporting the core of the American economy to a communist country of a billion people with an average of IQ of 105? Are you kidding? That’s national suicide! No way! In 20 years, they’d take over.”
     
    The "What's good for General Motors is good for the country" quip was still around when i was a kid. (Eisenhower picked the GM boss Charles Erwin Wilson--who'd led GM's war production effort--as his defense secretary. And during his confirmation testimony had said something that had been distorted into that.)

    This, of course, can not actually be 100% the case. But there was a general understand that America's industry needed to be strong for America to be strong.

    But that was back when America was led by people who saw America as their nation.

    But then we had the mercantilists take over. To whom America was not a nation, but a marketplace. If there was more money to skim from the China trade ... then that's the right thing to do! If you can get cheaper labor over there ... then that's the right thing to do!

    The nation? Posterity? Loyalty? LOL. No one's actually loyal to MallOne.
  114. @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous

    Yes, that is the answer, and is even endorsed in Cheryl Benard's article, though she shies away from the obvious implications:


    This brings us to a third, more compelling and quite disturbing theory—the one that my Afghan friend, the court translator, puts forward. On the basis of his hundreds of interactions with these young men in his professional capacity over the past several years, he believes to have discovered that they are motivated by a deep and abiding contempt for Western civilization. To them, Europeans are the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils, as are all the other things one can take from them: housing, money, passports. Their laws don’t matter, their culture is uninteresting and, ultimately, their civilization is going to fall anyway to the horde of which one is the spearhead. No need to assimilate, or work hard, or try to build a decent life here for yourself—these Europeans are too soft to seriously punish you for a transgression, and their days are numbered.
     
    Indeed, that one paragraph, particularly the second half, could easily displace a million pages of left-liberal hand-wringing over immigration and thereby massively increase public understanding. Therefore expect this article to be suppressed and it's contents to be "debunked" (i.e., factlessly declared inadmissible in the court of public opinion).

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @BB753, @Mike Tre, @Malla, @Anonymous, @Forbes

    The bolded description

    the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils

    is pretty much how invading armies behaved from the dawn of history, including the Soviets and Germans in WW II. (The UN’s Blue Helmet “peacekeeping” forces have a more recent record of such disgraces.)

    What’s changed is the West’s attitude toward the conduct of war–but not the reality of war itself. The West believes it can conduct “security operations,” sparing non-combatants, while sitting down at negotiating tables to iron-out a conflict resolution.

    The West no longer believes in the need to crush the enemy’s will to fight and impose an unconditional surrender on the defeated party. Just implement some pacification operations, and it’s all good…

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Forbes


    The bolded description

    the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils
     
    is pretty much how invading armies behaved from the dawn of history, including the Soviets and Germans in WW II. (The UN’s Blue Helmet “peacekeeping” forces have a more recent record of such disgraces.)
     
    Yes, that is the traditional way that conquering armies behave. But you know what? The Taliban may be the first conquering army in history who, rather than tearing the clothes off of captive young women, insisted that young women put more clothes on! Rather than raping them, about which the young women could have done nothing, they told them to go home and serve their families.

    Are the Taliban the most respectful to women fighting force ever?

    Respect-All-Women feminists, please be advised: your ship has come in. Your handsome prince is here.
  115. @cosMICjester
    The line that rings true & explains it all is at the end: "No need to assimilate, or work hard, or try to build a decent life here for yourself—these Europeans are too soft to seriously punish you for a transgression, and their days are numbered."

    When the flood of Afghan refugees hits the USA how much of this rapey behavior will we tolerate?? We've already being suffering w/ a disappropriate amount of feral violent activity from our orc population for decades now. Send all the Afghans to the west coast they want to atone for their so called white guilt & privilege they won't mind.

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    Send them to Detroit. Civilize the place.

  116. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jonathan Mason


    There are quite a lot of people from Guyana in the New York area. You will also find some in Florida, but they are often older people who have retired from the New York area and are living in the retirement areas.
     
    I knew a couple of Guyanese cousins in Minnesota. The younger was pure Indo and quite immature. The other was Indo-black, likely with some Brit in him as well. He was married, and confessed that his baby daughter cried when she saw other Guyanese, but was all right with everyone else.

    I don’t know how Michael Caine’s wife got the surname Caine, as Michael Caine is the stage name of Maurice Micklewhite.
     
    Lucille LeSueur became Joan Crawford. Sometimes your name can be too glamorous for show biz.

    I don’t know why anybody would want to emigrate from Paraguay to the US, but perhaps it is because Paraguay has no beaches, being landlocked.
     
    Top Beaches in Paraguay

    Don't know if you can swim at Monday Falls, Iguaçu's little sister, but it would be exciting. The name means "Thief River Falls" in Guaraní. (The Minnesota falls got their similar name after Chippewa land was stolen-- by the Dakotas.)


    Benjamin Hockin Brusquetti has swum for both Paraguay and GB in the Olympics. His brother Charles Daniel Hockin Brusquetti has also represented the nation.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Paraguayan_records_in_swimming

    Michigan is landlocked yet has plenty of beaches, and twice as many lighthouses as the UK.

    "How many lighthouses are there in the UK? There are more than 60 lighthouses dotted around the UK."

    https://www.countryfile.com/go-outdoors/days-out/britains-top-landmark-lighthouses/

    "There are 129 lighthouses within the state of Michigan."

    http://michiganlighthouseguide.com/list.html
     

    Replies: @Ancient Briton, @Expletive Deleted

    Lucille LeSueur became Joan Crawford. Sometimes your name can be too glamorous for show biz.

    Isn’t that the Frog version of “Sweaty Betty”? Although I suppose the French find that glamorous, like pit-hair, smoking and farting.

  117. @BB753
    @donut

    The Muslim world has always been and still is gayer than the West. But in a different way. None of that western men marrying other men faggotty nonsense. Just fun, wholesome man on man action and men grooming younger men and boys so they can partake of the adult stuff later on in life.

    Replies: @Forbes

    Like the Spartans…

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Forbes

    But less warlike and even gayer.Also, Greeks were less into anal sex.

  118. “Actually Afghans should not even have been part of the refugee tide, at least not in significant numbers. It was the Syrians who were expected.”

    That got be wondering. I wonder if Pres Erdogan of Turkey was fine with large numbers of relatively high quality Syrians but got alarmed when large numbers of Afghanis started showing up. Unable to manage the Afghanis he figured out a way to stampede them into Greece and the Balkans.

    The European refugee crisis was 2015 and the coup attempt in Turkey was 2016, which has me wondering if the coup was related to Turkey’s change of policy.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @George

    Turkey, like most civilized countries has a surplus of professionally educated young adults. Who can’t find jobs in their professions because there aren’t enough jobs. The business owners craftsmen medics teachers, none of them want competition for scarce jobs. Erdogan’s solution was to keep the Syrians on welfare instead of taking jobs from Turks. One of many reasons Turks like him. Imagine that!! A nationalist not a traitor globalist tool of the New World Order elected and re elected President.

    The Chamber of Commerce educated immigrant propaganda is no different from the massage parlor food and restaurant owners lobbying for more immigrants.

    If you think high quality immigrants are so great, fly to San Francisco airport, rent a car and drive south to Santa Clara or Silicon Valley as its known and notice the people in the parking lots of the big tech companies. Drive past the schools at 3 PM and see the kids leaving. Asians and Indians. Better yet, get a tech degree and try to get a job in tech.

  119. @Verymuchalive
    Interesting that the piece should appear in the National Review. John Derbyshire got defenestrated for a lot less.

    From her Wikipedia entry.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheryl_Benard


    Benard's Austrian bank account was frozen in February 2014.[2] This happened as part of an investigation into allegations of money laundering by Benard's husband, former U.S. official Zalmay Khalizad. Benard was subsequently cleared by the Austrian court and the freezing of her accounts was found to have been illegal. Prior to the announcement of the court decision, information about the investigation was leaked to the press, allegedly the result of court documents having been disposed of unshredded in the general trash and found by scavenging bloggers.[3]
     
    $2.26 trillion spent on the war and aid to Afghanistan, but only $9 billion left in Afghanistan's foreign currency reserves, which the US has now frozen. It is reasonable to assume that some of the money from her husband's kickbacks found its way into her account and that this was covered up by the Austrian authorities.

    What a disgusting couple.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    Minor Quibble. It was the “National Interest” not the “National Review”, although little difference!

    • Thanks: Verymuchalive
  120. @SunBakedSuburb
    @The Alarmist

    Are the bubbles coming out of their ears?

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    Given all the hot air expended around “helping” the poor refugees, and the propensity for hot air to rise, I’d wager the bubbles are coming from a lower region of their anatomies.

  121. @PhysicistDave
    I've been mulling over a couple questions lately:

    A) Who on earth are the tens of thousands of American civilians supposedly still in Afghanistan?

    Surely not tourists! My guess is mainly civilian military contractors -- among them soldiers who figured they could get paid a lot more as contractors than as official military.

    And probably some idiot NGO employees who lacked the sense to leave in a timely manner.

    And perhaps some Afghan natives who have acquired US citizenship.

    A great power defends its citizens. But the US citizens left in Afghanistan cannot be an ordinary American family visiting from Des Moines.

    B) We are told that we have to protect the Afghans who "helped" us, but isn't the whole idea that we were there to "help" the people of Afghanistan?

    I suppose the answer is that this is a tacit admission that the whole nation-building thing was always a joke.

    I'm not objecting to getting the people out who were most closely associated with us -- e.g., the translators.

    But it might be nice if the whole discussion -- concerning the American citizens still in country and the Afghans who helped us -- were a bit more open and transparent.

    Replies: @Ed Case, @The Alarmist, @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @Tony massey, @AndrewR, @nebulafox, @Morton's toes, @Alden, @Mr. Anon, @Jtgw

    We help them here so we don’t have to help them there.

    • LOL: Desiderius
  122. @Anonymous
    The answer is simple and obvious:

    Their own women are precious and protected and 'belong' to their own people - more specifically their husbands.

    The women of the kuffar, the aliens - who dress and act like disobedient whores - are fair game.

    Replies: @Percival, @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @Malla, @Buffalo Joe, @Uncle Dan

    TwoFiveFive, so much to teach these guys but let’s start with slut shaming and work on from there. We should be good in a generation or two.

  123. @epebble
    @Reg Cæsar

    How cuck can you get?

    Not at all. It is strategic. Benard is more advantageous than Khalilzad in opening doors of opportunity. Similarly, Naomi Osaka's parents figured Osaka is more helpful than Francois. Don't you think if Obama's parents had thoughtfully named him Barack Dunham, he would have probably avoided the Birth Certificate controversy? Look how far Kamala Harris (and Nikki Haley) have come compared to Bobby Jindal (who is actually much smarter than both Kamala and Nikki). Would Kamala Harris be V.P. today if her name was Kamala Gopalan or Nikki Haley would be considered Presidential aspirant if she were Nikki Randhawa? Politics is a chess game; never fail to grab an advantage.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    In Brazil, Juscelino Kubitchek chose to use his mother’s name. His father’s was the pedestrian Oliveira– “Olive picker”. That’s like Smith, Miller, or Taylor here.

    Alien names seem to help in Latin America, where few have much confidence in Iberian leadership capabilities.

    Our Jonathan was drawn to Abdalá Bucaram’s Ecuador. Perhaps he hopes Junior takes over.

    Benard is more advantageous than Khalilzad in opening doors of opportunity.

    You sure of that? In this day and age?

    Juan Trippe was WASP and Irish, and hated his given name. But it turned out to be quite useful when he did mail flights between Florida and Latin America. That eventually turned into Pan Am.

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Reg Cæsar

    If the ballot lists Alexander Benard and Maximilian Khalilzad whom would you vote for President (or Governor or Senator)? Whom do you think most Americans would vote for (Not knowing/trusting anything about their politics, experience etc., The so called classic Low information voter)?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  124. @Forbes
    @Reg Cæsar


    Do they merely want to cause momentary female hysteria and touch some forbidden places of a stranger’s body?
     
    That's amazingly passive writing about a gang rape. What's next? Describing rape as a cultural imperative? Any man who wrote that would be cancelled.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    Any man who wrote that would be cancelled.

    Cancelled?! That’d be the least of your worries. You may end up listed as one of the MEN OF UNZ! Nobody expects the Alden Inquisition!

    “Wait, I do!”

  125. The one time I thought the real election certification process might actually go forward was when there was supposed to have been a trucker’s strike to demand it. Of course like everything else after the Selection nothing came of it.

    I’ll believe this one when I see it.

  126. Her article is compelling but is completely un-sourced. It might actually be believable if it were.

    https://nationalinterest.org/feature/ive-worked-refugees-decades-europes-afghan-crime-wave-mind-21506

  127. @Sean
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP17WjQOrSY

    There are similar ones of Iran under the Shah. His Egyptian wife has said how she used to go in to talk to their cook caught him praying and he tried to hide what he had been doing. When she went to tell the cook what they wanted for dinner, he would avert his eyes because she was in a bikini. "It was a very religious court. We didn't realize ". Religion is the ultimate military technology.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    These lovely ladies represent what %age of Afghan women in the 1970s? Maybe 0.2%?

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Hibernian

    Mullah Omar the leader of the Taliban government at the time of 9/11 only visited Kabul twice in his life. He spent all his time in Kandahar. What started his rise to power was settling a dispute between warlords over who got a pretty boy. Very surprisingly, Omar never went on a pilgrimage to Mecca; he was an eccentric who didn't know or care about the rest of the world.

  128. @Reg Cæsar
    @epebble

    In Brazil, Juscelino Kubitchek chose to use his mother's name. His father's was the pedestrian Oliveira-- "Olive picker". That's like Smith, Miller, or Taylor here.

    Alien names seem to help in Latin America, where few have much confidence in Iberian leadership capabilities.

    Our Jonathan was drawn to Abdalá Bucaram's Ecuador. Perhaps he hopes Junior takes over.


    Benard is more advantageous than Khalilzad in opening doors of opportunity.
     
    You sure of that? In this day and age?

    Juan Trippe was WASP and Irish, and hated his given name. But it turned out to be quite useful when he did mail flights between Florida and Latin America. That eventually turned into Pan Am.

    Replies: @epebble

    If the ballot lists Alexander Benard and Maximilian Khalilzad whom would you vote for President (or Governor or Senator)? Whom do you think most Americans would vote for (Not knowing/trusting anything about their politics, experience etc., The so called classic Low information voter)?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @epebble


    Whom do you think most Americans would vote for (Not knowing/trusting anything about their politics, experience etc., The so called classic Low information voter)?
     
    Low-information voters went heavily for an Obama over a McCain and a Romney. Ilhan Omar swamped a Johnson, a Moore, a Woodland, and a Miller. The unpronounceable Rashida Tlaib crushed David Dudenhoefer.


    Perhaps he should have used his nickname, "Dude"!

    Replies: @epebble

  129. @JMcG
    @Steve Sailer

    The Irish papers are full of this stuff. “Irishman stranded in Egypt, Irish couple can’t get out of Syria after visiting on holiday.” It’s always a native of the country where they are trapped that has gotten an Irish passport under the benevolent auspices of Alan Shatter.

    Replies: @Juvenalis

    Neocon Fox News TV host Sean Hannity was interviewing an “American stranded in Afghanistan by Joe Biden”. The “American” with an exotic name did not know a lick of English and had to speak through an interpreter to translate. But apparently this U.S. citizen who likely never set foot on U.S. soil has paperwork asserting he is just as much an American as a native-born American like Omar Mateen.

    The erstwhile President of Afghanistan, Ashraf Ghani, has been a U.S. citizen since the 1960s; his two adult children, both born in the U.S., are dual Afghan-U.S. citizens.

    His Lebanese Maronite Christian wife, exiled First Lady of Afghanistan Rula Saadah Ghani, is a triple-citizen of Afghanistan, Lebanon, and the United States.

    Presumably they would all be considered “Americans stranded in Afghanistan” by U.S. media/politicians, if not for Ghani’s personal presidential privilege to jet out of Kabul with bags full of cash headed for Abu Dhabi at first sign of Taliban trouble.

    (Mr. Ghani supposedly renounced his U.S. loyalties as part of his 2009 election campaign for President of Afghanistan, although there’s no proof he actually formally surrendered his U.S. passport—especially since Ghani lost that race, finishing in 4th place with 2.9% of the vote, behind Hamid Karzai’s 49.7%, Abdullah Abdullah’s 30.6% and Ramazan Bashardost’s 10.5%. Yet in that sham democracy he went from single-digits to winning an obviously illusory popular mandate to lead Afghanistan in 2014.)

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Juvenalis

    Hannity should convert to Judaism. It'd be more honest that way.

  130. @Expletive Deleted
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    " Britain has long had a very similar problem with men from much-larger Pakistan".

    Almost exclusively from the much smaller (390 sq. ml.) district of Mirpur. Possibly because they're some of the ugliest, most backward and obsessively inbred hillbilly people on the planet within the "Caucasian" category. And likely to continue in those traditions over here whether they want to or not.
    Check the mugshot galleries (reluctantly) published by the UK press on conviction. Makes Andy Ngo's pages of Antifa baghead mutants look like fashion plates.
    Hard to date English girls when you look like that, and your family hasn't arranged it for you.
    Easier to kidnap them, mob-handed. And pay off/inhibit the police and local politicos by getting them up to their necks in it, and the heroin trade they also run.

    Replies: @Clyde, @JohnnyWalker123

    I’ve never seen a more physically hideous ethnic group. They look like victims of a science experiment that went horribly wrong.

  131. @Forbes
    @nebulafox


    the American government and cultural elite view America as an endless supply of resources to be tapped for ideological fixations, not a nation and specific place which they have a duty to.
     
    As I've been saying for some time, America is just a place on a map--an economic zone where parasites devour its resources. No longer a nation-state, the US is barely a country--it's a region where competing oligarchic groups battle for control (not unlike the medieval world).

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    the American government and cultural elite view America as an endless supply of resources to be tapped for ideological fixations, not a nation and specific place which they have a duty to.

    As I’ve been saying for some time, America is just a place on a map–an economic zone where parasites devour its resources. No longer a nation-state, the US is barely a country–it’s a region where competing oligarchic groups battle for control (not unlike the medieval world).

    This.

    Great sentence by nebulafox, great follow on by yourself.

    This is what happens when people take their eye off the ball–policing our borders and leaders. We are ruled by parasites. Their “America” is just the marketplace they are looting right now.

  132. At first, the incidents were downplayed or hushed up—no one wanted to provide the right wing with fodder for nationalist agitation …

    This is not an article that has been fun for me to write. I have worked on issues related to refugees for much of my professional life, from the Pakistani camps during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan to Yemen, Sudan, Thailand, Ethiopia, Djibouti, Lebanon, Bosnia, Nicaragua and Iraq, and have deep sympathy for their plight.

    At least, Cheryl Benard has it easy if she ever wants to understand how things have gone so wrong in the Europe. All she has to do is look in the mirror.

  133. “no one wanted to provide the right wing with fodder for nationalist agitation…”

    Odd. I’d like nothing more than for that to happen.

  134. @epebble
    @Reg Cæsar

    If the ballot lists Alexander Benard and Maximilian Khalilzad whom would you vote for President (or Governor or Senator)? Whom do you think most Americans would vote for (Not knowing/trusting anything about their politics, experience etc., The so called classic Low information voter)?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Whom do you think most Americans would vote for (Not knowing/trusting anything about their politics, experience etc., The so called classic Low information voter)?

    Low-information voters went heavily for an Obama over a McCain and a Romney. Ilhan Omar swamped a Johnson, a Moore, a Woodland, and a Miller. The unpronounceable Rashida Tlaib crushed David Dudenhoefer.

    Perhaps he should have used his nickname, “Dude”!

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Reg Cæsar

    Well, that is a powerful rebuttal; I guess WASP is just an insect now!

  135. @New Dealer
    The number of true things that can’t be mentioned continues to expand. A society that can’t talk plainly about the reasons its citizens are raped or murdered is no longer a society.

    Shower thought: if IQ thinking were not forbidden, savvy U.S. national security analysts in 2000 would have said: “Exporting the core of the American economy to a communist country of a billion people with an average of IQ of 105? Are you kidding? That’s national suicide! No way! In 20 years, they’d take over.”

    Rather than what was said out loud in DC: “Free markets make free peoples.” And what was said quietly on Wall St.: "In the long run, we'll all be dead."

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Shower thought: if IQ thinking were not forbidden, savvy U.S. national security analysts in 2000 would have said: “Exporting the core of the American economy to a communist country of a billion people with an average of IQ of 105? Are you kidding? That’s national suicide! No way! In 20 years, they’d take over.”

    The “What’s good for General Motors is good for the country” quip was still around when i was a kid. (Eisenhower picked the GM boss Charles Erwin Wilson–who’d led GM’s war production effort–as his defense secretary. And during his confirmation testimony had said something that had been distorted into that.)

    This, of course, can not actually be 100% the case. But there was a general understand that America’s industry needed to be strong for America to be strong.

    But that was back when America was led by people who saw America as their nation.

    But then we had the mercantilists take over. To whom America was not a nation, but a marketplace. If there was more money to skim from the China trade … then that’s the right thing to do! If you can get cheaper labor over there … then that’s the right thing to do!

    The nation? Posterity? Loyalty? LOL. No one’s actually loyal to MallOne.

  136. @obwandiyag
    They are being, to use the au courant mot, being stage-managed.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell

    They are, but she is also right. One can only use people who would act like this.

    A good country would never tolerate this behavior, nor use people like this, nor allow them to be present.

  137. @Anonymous
    The answer is simple and obvious:

    Their own women are precious and protected and 'belong' to their own people - more specifically their husbands.

    The women of the kuffar, the aliens - who dress and act like disobedient whores - are fair game.

    Replies: @Percival, @El Dato, @Almost Missouri, @Malla, @Buffalo Joe, @Uncle Dan

    The answer is simple and obvious:
    They know German men will not protect their women.

  138. @George
    "Actually Afghans should not even have been part of the refugee tide, at least not in significant numbers. It was the Syrians who were expected."

    That got be wondering. I wonder if Pres Erdogan of Turkey was fine with large numbers of relatively high quality Syrians but got alarmed when large numbers of Afghanis started showing up. Unable to manage the Afghanis he figured out a way to stampede them into Greece and the Balkans.

    The European refugee crisis was 2015 and the coup attempt in Turkey was 2016, which has me wondering if the coup was related to Turkey's change of policy.

    Replies: @Alden

    Turkey, like most civilized countries has a surplus of professionally educated young adults. Who can’t find jobs in their professions because there aren’t enough jobs. The business owners craftsmen medics teachers, none of them want competition for scarce jobs. Erdogan’s solution was to keep the Syrians on welfare instead of taking jobs from Turks. One of many reasons Turks like him. Imagine that!! A nationalist not a traitor globalist tool of the New World Order elected and re elected President.

    The Chamber of Commerce educated immigrant propaganda is no different from the massage parlor food and restaurant owners lobbying for more immigrants.

    If you think high quality immigrants are so great, fly to San Francisco airport, rent a car and drive south to Santa Clara or Silicon Valley as its known and notice the people in the parking lots of the big tech companies. Drive past the schools at 3 PM and see the kids leaving. Asians and Indians. Better yet, get a tech degree and try to get a job in tech.

  139. @Reg Cæsar
    @epebble


    Whom do you think most Americans would vote for (Not knowing/trusting anything about their politics, experience etc., The so called classic Low information voter)?
     
    Low-information voters went heavily for an Obama over a McCain and a Romney. Ilhan Omar swamped a Johnson, a Moore, a Woodland, and a Miller. The unpronounceable Rashida Tlaib crushed David Dudenhoefer.


    Perhaps he should have used his nickname, "Dude"!

    Replies: @epebble

    Well, that is a powerful rebuttal; I guess WASP is just an insect now!

  140. @Anonymous
    There's been surprisingly little comment on the real reason behind the Afghani debacle - namely the massive population growth in Afghanistan which, in thorough Malthusian fashion, has outstripped the means of supporting it, thus engendering the norm of violence and conflict. Similarly, in Syria, the enormous population growth of past decades, and the resulting immiseration provided the underlying factor to the anti Assad rebellion.

    Likely the appalling bloodshed and criminality seen in Mexico and central America can be ascribed to the same cause.

    The moral here is that the third world is a continual state of violence,cane these Malthusian conflicts are liable to spring up at any time, catching western politicians unawares.
    Due to the prevailing Economist/lefty 'woke' consensus amongst the western elite, the western response will be to allow full unimpeded access to the west for the 'victims' of these conflicts.

    Take note that today's massive population growth is in black Africa, and there, surely, the bloody conflicts of the near future will occur.
    Add to this the woke/Economist view that whites 'owe' blacks in particular a special favor and special debt .........

    Replies: @El Dato, @Pericles, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad

    I’m guessing the Afghans would manage to be feuding and fighting if they were still at the 20 odd million when we invaded, rather than rushing toward 40.

    But agree generally on population.

    The way–the only way–you can do effective population control is for people to control their nations population. Which is a) within your power and b) worth doing if your people reap the rewards for it.

    But when you go into “population control mode” that inherently means “closed borders”. It does no good to limit your population … and then instead of destressing your environment … you simply get flooded by foreigners who have not limited their population! That’s … uh … insane!

    Three quarters of the world’s land surface are nations that are at or below replacement fertility. The “population crisis” should be basically over. But … the West–which has been at subreplacement fertility for a couple generations–continues to grow. Well not actually “the West” but the “countries reportedly assigned ‘West’ previously (CRAWP).

  141. @Hibernian
    @Sean

    These lovely ladies represent what %age of Afghan women in the 1970s? Maybe 0.2%?

    Replies: @Sean

    Mullah Omar the leader of the Taliban government at the time of 9/11 only visited Kabul twice in his life. He spent all his time in Kandahar. What started his rise to power was settling a dispute between warlords over who got a pretty boy. Very surprisingly, Omar never went on a pilgrimage to Mecca; he was an eccentric who didn’t know or care about the rest of the world.

  142. @Almost Missouri
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account


    Why is she certain these men are all Afghan?
     
    She is intimately familiar with Afghans, for among other reasons, being married to one. Elsewhere in the article she waxes lyrical about who "can distinguish the delicate features of a Hazara from those of a Pashtun."

    But for us it doesn't really matter all that much whether or not every claimed "Afghan" is or isn't Afghani. As you point out, the results of importing Pakistanis have been about the same as the results of importing Afghans: mass sexual abuse. So why import either?

    Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    She is intimately familiar with Afghans, for among other reasons, being married to one. Elsewhere in the article she waxes lyrical about who “can distinguish the delicate features of a Hazara from those of a Pashtun.”

    Even if she has the expertise she claims, she isn’t personally examining the mugshots of every alleged Afghan refugee.

    We agree that Afghan or not doesn’t matter as far as rapes and other crimes go. But my point is also that these clowns refuse to acecpt that, and instead wish to promulgate psychobabble about certain unique properties of Afghan culture – properties induced, of course, by our actions. It’s our fault that Afghans rape, you see, and it’s in our power to change this about them. We have a responsibility…

    In reality, vast rapey hordes are taking advantage of this guilt and naivete by falsely claiming refugee status, and the only thing we can do about it is to keep them out.

  143. @Expletive Deleted
    @Clyde

    So long-independent Pakistan decides to drown the fuckers, and they flee to England.
    They're still coming. To England, not Greater Pakistan.

    An apologist for her tribe was beefing away on Radio Woke (BBC) the other day, saying the English textile operatives (among whom I count my own antecedents) had done it to themselves, after the War. Nyah nyaah richly deserved etc. historic Vengeance etc. (the modern narrative, full nine yards and another beltfull for YT).

    Story was, the demobbbed returning (mostly female) loom workers didn't like the new automated looms (have to run about 50, instead of the 8 to a dozen my grandma and greatgrandma were required to "mind", or they'd be "down the road". Silkspinners usually). Fewer jobs, same absurdly low pay or less (which is why their men were coalminers, or metalbashers).
    The owners shipped the new robolooms out to the post-independence subcontinent, where a lot of the cotton and jute etc. grew, and trained the locals to not break them.

    Like the West Indians and Indian Indians brought in to break the London and other transport strikes by Tory governments (Windrush war heroes my arse, scabs the lot of them), these desperadoes would lick the ground the textile owners strutted on, for pennies.
    So the production was eventually re-onshored, with the new looms, and the ageing, skilled (but untrained as robot-minders) native Luddites told to go f themselves unless they'd accept penury.

    Then the whole industry collapsed, almost overnight, in the mid 6os. Leaving the wogs surplus to requirements. By anyone, anyone at all. Couldn't even lift a shovel or lay a brick.
    Luckily for them they could clag on to the benificent native "stamp"-payers and their old and hard-won insurance and pension schemes.
    And they told all their relatives back in Kashmir.

    Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @Clyde

    Blimey.

    I like to think the end of empire was a factor. Lots of administrators and assorted bigwigs suddenly finding themselves back in the old country, with no coolies pouring them drinks… nek minit…

  144. @Juvenalis
    @JMcG

    Neocon Fox News TV host Sean Hannity was interviewing an “American stranded in Afghanistan by Joe Biden”. The "American" with an exotic name did not know a lick of English and had to speak through an interpreter to translate. But apparently this U.S. citizen who likely never set foot on U.S. soil has paperwork asserting he is just as much an American as a native-born American like Omar Mateen.

    The erstwhile President of Afghanistan, Ashraf Ghani, has been a U.S. citizen since the 1960s; his two adult children, both born in the U.S., are dual Afghan-U.S. citizens.

    His Lebanese Maronite Christian wife, exiled First Lady of Afghanistan Rula Saadah Ghani, is a triple-citizen of Afghanistan, Lebanon, and the United States.

    Presumably they would all be considered “Americans stranded in Afghanistan” by U.S. media/politicians, if not for Ghani's personal presidential privilege to jet out of Kabul with bags full of cash headed for Abu Dhabi at first sign of Taliban trouble.

    (Mr. Ghani supposedly renounced his U.S. loyalties as part of his 2009 election campaign for President of Afghanistan, although there's no proof he actually formally surrendered his U.S. passport—especially since Ghani lost that race, finishing in 4th place with 2.9% of the vote, behind Hamid Karzai's 49.7%, Abdullah Abdullah's 30.6% and Ramazan Bashardost's 10.5%. Yet in that sham democracy he went from single-digits to winning an obviously illusory popular mandate to lead Afghanistan in 2014.)

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Hannity should convert to Judaism. It’d be more honest that way.

  145. @The Alarmist
    Are we sure it is Afghan men she is writing about? Those migrants might have looked old and weathered as they rolled into the train stations of Europe, but we were assured the girls were welcoming mere youths.

    https://zeitjung.objects.frb.io/app/uploads/2015/08/Refugees_Titelbild.jpg


    I’m not sure the women of Europe should be allowed to complain. Ya’ know ... it is White privilege to be free from rape.

    Replies: @Clyde, @El Dato, @SunBakedSuburb, @donut, @Undisclosed, @Alt Right Moderate

    Veblen pretended that conspicuous consumption was something that men did out of the pleasure of knowing that women could not.

    As an example he used the consumption of excess amounts of alcohol. His argument was that men deny their wives that extra shot of scotch so that their own will taste that much sweeter.

    In fact, conspicuous consumption – a.k.a. teasing – is almost entirely a female vice.

    The sort of man who has taps in his shoes so that you’ll hear him coming and going is a little light in the loafers. The sort of man who invites reporters in to see his golden toilet is named Trump. Arousing desire and jealousy in other people is universally recognized as a disgusting trait in a man.

    It is the modus operandi of women just as much as rape is the modus operandi of men.

    Most Western societies restricts the latter to the degree that 1 in 3 women surveyed in the US regarding winking by an unattractive male to be prosecutable. The former of course is not only unrestricted but encouarged. The result is – well, I don’t have to tell you. If you are male and live in the west you know the result only too well.

    Most Middle Eastern societies only restrict the vices of women. Having your way with a woman who doesn’t “belong” to some male or other who is part of the Ummah is not just allowed but that’s what heaven is. Women however are expected to sacrifice their health and happiness to the utmost degree by covering up from head to toe and remaining indoors lest they arouse any sexual desire in a man that he must then suffer with. The result is women staying home eating and watching tv and becoming too boring not only for their husbands but for themselves.

    Most Traditional Judeo-Christian-Hindu societies (Amish, Yeshivish, Franco Spanish, Brahmacharya) restrict the vices of both men and women by describing sex as the most vile, disgusting, devilish desire in existence. In fact, two seconds after gender is created in the form of Eve the phallic snake shows up to tempt Man thus leading to humanity’s exile from Eden and the curse of Death. In these societies the vice of women to catch make attention and the vice of men to touch women are both held in severe check.

    Most hunter gatherer societies do little to restrict either vice. Women sexually tease and men aren’t terribly afraid to touch. A large degree of this survives among South African blacks to this day as well as among some descendants of recent hunter-gatherer communities around the world.

    Pick your poison.

    The little-restricted lattermost approach is the most conducive to human happiness but it’s questionable whether it has multi-generational staying power. Wheresoever private property exists Eden can not be bequeathed.

    The Virgin Mary approach is wonderful for the continuation of humankind but often breeds such rancor and unhappiness in forced life-long ownership relationships that carefree human pleasures are reverse alchemised into inexorable plodding duties to God, Country, Family, Office, Offspring, etc.

    And the other two approaches are simply downright cruel to half of mankind and half-way cruel to the other half. Women in America would like to be swept off their feet and men in mud hut villages would like their women to not be so humorlessly boring.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Undisclosed


    The sort of man who has taps in his shoes so that you’ll hear him coming and going is a little light in the loafers.
     
    The only men I ever met who wore taps were Military Training Instructors, back in the ‘70s when they were still largely straight men. Can’t speak to today’s military.

    But to your larger point and mine, the fact is that Western women who consider themselves to be progressives and on par with men in every way are going out of their way to support the importation of men who would use them as sex dolls and house slaves and then beat or kill them should they dare to object to the privileges of that life. IOW, most women are irrational too much of the time, but Western women have turned irrationality into an art.

    Replies: @anon

  146. @Polistra


    no one wanted to provide the right wing with fodder for nationalist agitation
     
    "Better our wives and daughters should be raped than anyone think we might be racist."

    Mollie Tibbetts's dad comes to mind. He's the norm now, not the exception.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Alden, @JohnnyWalker123, @Veteran Aryan

    Except the American population has cheered wildly as the U.S. has genocided millions of Middle Eastern civilians during our “War on Terror.”

    The problem with Whites isn’t that they want to fight racism or anti-immigrant groups.
    The problem is that you could lose your job if you speak out, so nobody does.

    Whites are afraid of being called “racist” not because they think it’s morally wrong. They’re afraid of that term because it could result in them being economically ruined and socially ostracized.

    Punishment works. Since most Whites are cowardly, it takes little to muzzle them.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Good thing these Middle Eastern people are legally white so we have no idea how many of them there are in America.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  147. The last paragraph of that article absolutely nailed it! The Europeans (and Americans) are indeed soft and feckless and are quickly on the way out. It took several generations of easy living and feminization to get us here, but here we are! If an 80-IQ Afghan can see it, why the hell can’t we? Decades of media propaganda, plus the occasional heavy hand of government (forced desegregation, hate-speech laws, refugee programs, etc.) have had its psychological effect.
    White European men were disarmed long ago, so it’s pretty much hopeless for them. But Americans are armed to the teeth. If we only had the will, we could turn this thing around. I suppose it would take some sort of economic collapse and mass hunger to even begin to wake “Joe Sixpack” from his slumber.

  148. @The Alarmist
    Are we sure it is Afghan men she is writing about? Those migrants might have looked old and weathered as they rolled into the train stations of Europe, but we were assured the girls were welcoming mere youths.

    https://zeitjung.objects.frb.io/app/uploads/2015/08/Refugees_Titelbild.jpg


    I’m not sure the women of Europe should be allowed to complain. Ya’ know ... it is White privilege to be free from rape.

    Replies: @Clyde, @El Dato, @SunBakedSuburb, @donut, @Undisclosed, @Alt Right Moderate

    In fairness they probably think most refugees are wide-eyed children with mothers, Westernised female school teachers, and male translators with families. When even the right-wing media (Fox News, Sky New Australia etc) refuses to address the issue of why so many refugees are dodgy looking single young men without papers, its no wonder left-liberal women are clueless.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Alt Right Moderate

    In fairness they probably think

    Nah. No thought is involved. It's all about teh feelze!

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GIbHpGG2gWU/VenolJ4zfqI/AAAAAAAAOlo/qSmGHVj58Sk/s1600/DSC_0030.jpg

    its no wonder left-liberal women are clueless.

    Leftard girlies are clueless by definition.

  149. @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    Why is she certain these men are all Afghan? Britain has long had a very similar problem with men from much-larger Pakistan (just how many emigrants can Afghanistan withstand?), and, at the risk of revealing myself to be a terrible racist, I'm sure there are large swathes of the map where these "Afghan" sexual mores are prevalent. Is a man who'd rape a woman on a train too pure to lie about his refugee status?

    ...there is also a certain lack of true identification with Western notions of bureaucratic and biographic fact [edit: I am going to try this line when next I'm audited]; many, if not most, Afghans currently living in the West have some lies of necessity in their past. Whichever of them arrived first—a father, an older brother—generally had to make up a supposed family name and a birthdate on the fly, because back home, until one generation ago most people did not have a last name and birth dates were not recorded.
     
    Their names are fake, and the birthdays - but not the country of origin, no...

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Expletive Deleted, @Richard B, @Peter Akuleyev

    “Afghanistan” and “Pakistan” are political and geographical concepts, not ethnicities. Pashtuns live in both countries, and don’t always have a clear understanding of, or care, where the Durand Line lies. Seems to me very likely that Pashtuns are the problem group.

    • Agree: greysquirrell
  150. Needless to say, things have not improved in Austria since 2017. The biggest crime story in Austria this summer was about a group of Afghani youths (all “refugees”) who drugged a 13 year old Austrian girl with ecstasy, gang raped her, murdered her and then left her body by a tree on the street as if it were a bag of trash.

    https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/wien/leonie-oe24-hat-geheimen-ermittlungs-akt/483233577

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Peter Akuleyev

    English report here.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9844273/Afghan-wanted-connection-13-year-old-Austrian-girls-gang-rape-murder-arrested-London.html

    She very foolishly arranged to meet a 16 year old Afghan youth to take ecstasy with, he brought his 25-year old friends along, and a good time was had by all except the 13 year old victim.

    But how was she to know? From school? TV? Newspapers?

    Not every daughter has a father who'll tell her a few unpalatable home truths.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  151. “According to Austrian police statistics, Syrian refugees cause fewer than 10 percent of sexual assault cases. Afghans, whose numbers are comparable, are responsible for a stunning half of all cases.”

    Am I to understand that fully 60% of sexual assaults are committed by nationals of these two countries? Since there are probably other Mohamedan nationalities in country, presumably an even higher fraction is done my non-Austrians. Maybe this is the percentage of sexual assaults committed by non-Austrians only?

    • Replies: @Godot
    @Gabe Ruth


    Maybe this is the percentage of sexual assaults committed by non-Austrians only?

     

    I think it's the number of rapes commited by asylum seekers only, the writer of that article probably confused it for the overall rate. In 2016, there were 116 rapes committed by asylum seekers, of which 54 were committed by Afghan asyum seekers.
  152. @Alt Right Moderate
    @The Alarmist

    In fairness they probably think most refugees are wide-eyed children with mothers, Westernised female school teachers, and male translators with families. When even the right-wing media (Fox News, Sky New Australia etc) refuses to address the issue of why so many refugees are dodgy looking single young men without papers, its no wonder left-liberal women are clueless.

    Replies: @anon

    In fairness they probably think

    Nah. No thought is involved. It’s all about teh feelze!

    its no wonder left-liberal women are clueless.

    Leftard girlies are clueless by definition.

  153. Syrian refugees cause fewer than 10 percent of sexual assault cases. Afghans, whose numbers are comparable, are responsible for a stunning half of all cases. …

    This information is not accurate. In 2016 there were 64 Afghan citizens suspected of rape, which was a bit less than 10% of total rape cases (725 cleared cases). However, with one rape suspect per 557 Afghan citizens they were greatly overrepresented compared to Austrian citizens (1 rape suspect per 20,000 citizens). If one adjusted for age, the difference would probably diminish but I guess it would still be pretty large.

    Figures: https://www.bmi.gv.at/508/files/SIB_2016/03_SIB2016-Kriminalitaetsbericht_web.pdf

    • Replies: @anon
    @Godot

    Thanks.

  154. @nebulafox
    Relocated peasants in urban areas tends to translate into second generation gang culture, whether you are dealing with Irish, Italians, Vietnamese, Mexicans, Salvadorans, Turks, or Pakistanis. Nothing new there. Social dysfunction among immigrant groups where a large portion of the immigrant wave suffers from PTSD is also a thing, as anybody who has dealt with the Khmer diaspora around Seattle can attest to.

    What's different, among other things, is the leadership of a country systematically brutalizing its own people for 18 months as a matter of policy, economically and socially, only to be shocked when the result is a severe lack of interest in relocating millions of refugees and mass immunity to moral hectoring. It speaks volumes.

    Replies: @greysquirrell

    So why aren’t refugees from all the other regions of the world , that live in Western Europe, behaving the same way?

  155. I recall reading about a truly horrible honor killing (killings, actually) in Kanada, where a man, his 2nd wife (by way of polygamy) and his son (by his first wife) drowned 4 females in the family (the girls wanted a western lifestyle).

    Guess what, they were from good old Afghanistan and not refugees as far as I know, but prosperous world travellers.

    The three were each convicted in January 2012 of four counts of first-degree murder in the deaths of Shafia sisters Zainab, 19, Sahar, 17, Geeti, 13, and Rona Amir, 52, [Mohammed] Shafia’s first wife in the polygamous 10-member Afghan family that came to Canada in 2007 and settled in Montreal. The three were sentenced to life in prison with no chance of parole for 25 years. They have been behind bars since the convictions.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/shafia-parents-and-son-convicted-in-honour-killing-of-four-family-members-seek-new-trial

    And Mohammad was not nice in prison, either:

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/shafia-parents-and-son-convicted-in-honour-killing-of-four-family-members-seek-new-trial

  156. @Forbes
    @Almost Missouri

    The bolded description


    the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils
     
    is pretty much how invading armies behaved from the dawn of history, including the Soviets and Germans in WW II. (The UN's Blue Helmet "peacekeeping" forces have a more recent record of such disgraces.)

    What's changed is the West's attitude toward the conduct of war--but not the reality of war itself. The West believes it can conduct "security operations," sparing non-combatants, while sitting down at negotiating tables to iron-out a conflict resolution.

    The West no longer believes in the need to crush the enemy's will to fight and impose an unconditional surrender on the defeated party. Just implement some pacification operations, and it's all good...

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    The bolded description

    the enemy, and their women are legitimate spoils

    is pretty much how invading armies behaved from the dawn of history, including the Soviets and Germans in WW II. (The UN’s Blue Helmet “peacekeeping” forces have a more recent record of such disgraces.)

    Yes, that is the traditional way that conquering armies behave. But you know what? The Taliban may be the first conquering army in history who, rather than tearing the clothes off of captive young women, insisted that young women put more clothes on! Rather than raping them, about which the young women could have done nothing, they told them to go home and serve their families.

    Are the Taliban the most respectful to women fighting force ever?

    Respect-All-Women feminists, please be advised: your ship has come in. Your handsome prince is here.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  157. @Godot

    Syrian refugees cause fewer than 10 percent of sexual assault cases. Afghans, whose numbers are comparable, are responsible for a stunning half of all cases. …

     

    This information is not accurate. In 2016 there were 64 Afghan citizens suspected of rape, which was a bit less than 10% of total rape cases (725 cleared cases). However, with one rape suspect per 557 Afghan citizens they were greatly overrepresented compared to Austrian citizens (1 rape suspect per 20,000 citizens). If one adjusted for age, the difference would probably diminish but I guess it would still be pretty large.

    Figures: https://www.bmi.gv.at/508/files/SIB_2016/03_SIB2016-Kriminalitaetsbericht_web.pdf

    Replies: @anon

    Thanks.

  158. @Peter Akuleyev
    Needless to say, things have not improved in Austria since 2017. The biggest crime story in Austria this summer was about a group of Afghani youths (all "refugees") who drugged a 13 year old Austrian girl with ecstasy, gang raped her, murdered her and then left her body by a tree on the street as if it were a bag of trash.

    https://www.oe24.at/oesterreich/chronik/wien/leonie-oe24-hat-geheimen-ermittlungs-akt/483233577

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    English report here.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9844273/Afghan-wanted-connection-13-year-old-Austrian-girls-gang-rape-murder-arrested-London.html

    She very foolishly arranged to meet a 16 year old Afghan youth to take ecstasy with, he brought his 25-year old friends along, and a good time was had by all except the 13 year old victim.

    But how was she to know? From school? TV? Newspapers?

    Not every daughter has a father who’ll tell her a few unpalatable home truths.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @YetAnotherAnon

    What makes you think she has a father at home?

    Good chance that her father doesn't care to have involvement in his child's life.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  159. @Expletive Deleted
    @Clyde

    So long-independent Pakistan decides to drown the fuckers, and they flee to England.
    They're still coming. To England, not Greater Pakistan.

    An apologist for her tribe was beefing away on Radio Woke (BBC) the other day, saying the English textile operatives (among whom I count my own antecedents) had done it to themselves, after the War. Nyah nyaah richly deserved etc. historic Vengeance etc. (the modern narrative, full nine yards and another beltfull for YT).

    Story was, the demobbbed returning (mostly female) loom workers didn't like the new automated looms (have to run about 50, instead of the 8 to a dozen my grandma and greatgrandma were required to "mind", or they'd be "down the road". Silkspinners usually). Fewer jobs, same absurdly low pay or less (which is why their men were coalminers, or metalbashers).
    The owners shipped the new robolooms out to the post-independence subcontinent, where a lot of the cotton and jute etc. grew, and trained the locals to not break them.

    Like the West Indians and Indian Indians brought in to break the London and other transport strikes by Tory governments (Windrush war heroes my arse, scabs the lot of them), these desperadoes would lick the ground the textile owners strutted on, for pennies.
    So the production was eventually re-onshored, with the new looms, and the ageing, skilled (but untrained as robot-minders) native Luddites told to go f themselves unless they'd accept penury.

    Then the whole industry collapsed, almost overnight, in the mid 6os. Leaving the wogs surplus to requirements. By anyone, anyone at all. Couldn't even lift a shovel or lay a brick.
    Luckily for them they could clag on to the benificent native "stamp"-payers and their old and hard-won insurance and pension schemes.
    And they told all their relatives back in Kashmir.

    Replies: @Barack Obama's secret Unz account, @Clyde

    You seem to be in England, so how about this Pakistani scam? I think I am 85%+ correct on this.
    When a Pakistani in UK is ready for marriage, they get a marriage partner from Pakistan. Their family demands this for raw monetary reasons. Due to the father/patriarch of the UK family being paid off handsomely by the Pakistan family. We know why. Because the Pakistan based family now has an immigration foothold in the UK to bring in more members.

    I read one case where part of the payment was to send a Pakistan son to the UK family illegally to work for 5 years for zero wages in the UK family’s curry shop, or was it a fish and chips. For just a place to sleep.

    And how about the Pakistanis and other Allah-types who live in the UK 3-6 months of the year while scamming housing benefits and money out of your social welfare system? Not that the USA is much better. In both nations the welfare payment bureaucracy is riddled with foreigners, leftists, anarchists. This is how a “fresh off the boat” foreigner scores a 4-bedroom house or apartment over native Brits.

  160. @Forbes
    @BB753

    Like the Spartans...

    Replies: @BB753

    But less warlike and even gayer.Also, Greeks were less into anal sex.

  161. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Peter Akuleyev

    English report here.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9844273/Afghan-wanted-connection-13-year-old-Austrian-girls-gang-rape-murder-arrested-London.html

    She very foolishly arranged to meet a 16 year old Afghan youth to take ecstasy with, he brought his 25-year old friends along, and a good time was had by all except the 13 year old victim.

    But how was she to know? From school? TV? Newspapers?

    Not every daughter has a father who'll tell her a few unpalatable home truths.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    What makes you think she has a father at home?

    Good chance that her father doesn’t care to have involvement in his child’s life.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The girl came from AFAIK an intact family.

    But teenage boys and girls are both capable of making stupid decisions that can kill them. Boys more usually involving cars, motorcycles, fights, large bodies of water.


    I went for a row with another boy a little younger than myself. When we were more than a mile from the shore, we decided to have a swim, pulled off our clothes, jumped into the water and swam about in great delight. When we had had enough, the boat was perhaps 100 yards away. A breeze had begun to stir the waters. The boat had a small red awning over its stern seats. This awning acted as a sail by catching the breeze. As we swam towards the boat, it drifted farther off. After this had happened several times we had perhaps halved the distance. But meanwhile the breeze was freshening and we both, especially my companion, began to be tired. Up to this point no idea of danger had crossed my mind. The sun played upon the sparkling blue waters; the wonderful panorama of mountains and valleys, the gay hotels and villas still smiled. But I now saw Death as near as I believe I have ever seen him. He was swimming in the water at our side, whispering from time to time in the rising wind which continued to carry the boat away from us at about the same speed we could swim. No help was near. Unaided we could never reach the shore. I was not only an easy, but a fast swimmer, having represented my House at Harrow, when our team defeated all comers. I now swam for life. Twice I reached within a yard of the boat and each time a gust carried it just beyond my reach; but by a supreme effort I caught hold of its side in the nick of time before a still stronger gust bulged the red awning again. I scrambled in, and rowed back for my companion who, though tired, had not apparently realised the dull yellow glare of mortal peril that had so suddenly played around us.
     
    She'd perhaps been well indoctrinated by school and media, thought "I won't tell them, they'd only be racist about it". You can't stop a child leaving the house.
  162. @El Dato
    @Clyde

    I sure hope Alden can't into German otherwise our ears will bleed.


    Teddybärbahnhofsteherinnen
     
    Oy!

    ("female person waiting at the train station where either teddy bears wait or are delivered")

    This reaches heights of a Tarantino soliloquy:

    Was mich an einen Feldwebel erinnert. Im Grundwehrdienst hatten wir einen, der, obwohl normaler Deutscher, den Spitznamen „Der Afghane“ hatte, weil die im Geschäftszimmer das Maul nicht halten konnten und überall rumerzählten, dass in seiner Personalakte stehe, dass er in Kabul, Afghanistan geboren sei. Hat aber mal erzählt, dass er sich daran sowieso nicht erinnern kann, und dass seine Eltern damals halt im Ausland arbeiten waren, und das damals noch ein recht angenehmes, modernes, reisetaugliches Land gewesen sei, über das man nichts negatives hätte sagen können, die Eltern es im Gegenteil sogar als Vorteil angesehen hätten, da mal eine Zeit zu verbringen. Das muss damals recht schön dort gewesen sein. Er meinte mal, der charakteristischere Aspekt als dort geboren zu sein, sei ohnehin, dort gezeugt worden zu sein. Von einem VW-Bus hat er nichts gesagt. Aber irgendwo stand mal, dass der VW Bus in der Rangordnung der Fahrzeuge, in denen Kinder gezeugt wurden, ganz weit oben stehe.
     
    Ah! The good old times of Schmidt/Kohl, Baader-Meinhof and banging in a clapped-out VW bus in Afghanistan.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwn1F7xij9o

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Reg Cæsar, @Dieter Kief

    Tedddybärbahnhofsteherinnen

    – these are excited women with teddy bears standing at the train station waiting for the refugees to arrive in pure joy…

    …since prostitutes do also stand at or near train stations, and since “ein Steher” is a virile Mann and – even more into fantasy land – einen stehen haben means a hard on – – – this – öh – a bit lengthy – – öh – – – neologism – – – by Hadmut Danisch does indeed resonate rather tarantinoesk – or in this direction (makes me think of poet Wolf Wondratschek too – if not of Klaus Kinski – – – or Charles Bukowski… – he would have smiled quite a bit about this whole affair…

  163. @Forbes
    @Reg Cæsar


    Do they merely want to cause momentary female hysteria and touch some forbidden places of a stranger’s body?
     
    That's amazingly passive writing about a gang rape. What's next? Describing rape as a cultural imperative? Any man who wrote that would be cancelled.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar

    That’s amazingly passive writing about a gang rape.

    One of our regular commenters accused Bill Cosby’s prosecutors of going overboard, as at most he was guilty of “copping a feel”. Here’s an account of the judge’s instructions to the jury:

    There were three separate charges of aggravated indecent assault, each with slightly different elements to them saying Cosby digitally penetrated Andrea: (1) without her consent, (2) while she was unconscious, and (3) after drugging her without her knowledge to wipe out her resistance.

    The judge told them that in order to find Cosby guilty of this first crime, they needed to be convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that four elements were proven, including that she did not consent to what happened. For the second one, that she was unconscious when it happened and thus unable to consent and that Cosby recklessly disregarded that. And for the third, that Cosby not only gave her drugs that wiped away her resistance but that he then “recklessly” disregarded that impairment while assaulting her.

    Nicole Weisensee Egan, Chasing Cosby, p. 228.

    One hardly has to be a feminist hysteric to see that this goes well beyond what we called “copping a feel” back in the day. Cosby was rightly convicted. He was released from prison on the kind of uniquely American technicality that you’d be hard-pressed to find elsewhere in the world.

    A wise commentator once pointed out that the once-common claim that the exclusionary rule was the only thing standing between us and dictatorship neglected to mention that only one other country had it. At the time that country, the Philippines, already was a dictatorship.

  164. @El Dato
    @Clyde

    I sure hope Alden can't into German otherwise our ears will bleed.


    Teddybärbahnhofsteherinnen
     
    Oy!

    ("female person waiting at the train station where either teddy bears wait or are delivered")

    This reaches heights of a Tarantino soliloquy:

    Was mich an einen Feldwebel erinnert. Im Grundwehrdienst hatten wir einen, der, obwohl normaler Deutscher, den Spitznamen „Der Afghane“ hatte, weil die im Geschäftszimmer das Maul nicht halten konnten und überall rumerzählten, dass in seiner Personalakte stehe, dass er in Kabul, Afghanistan geboren sei. Hat aber mal erzählt, dass er sich daran sowieso nicht erinnern kann, und dass seine Eltern damals halt im Ausland arbeiten waren, und das damals noch ein recht angenehmes, modernes, reisetaugliches Land gewesen sei, über das man nichts negatives hätte sagen können, die Eltern es im Gegenteil sogar als Vorteil angesehen hätten, da mal eine Zeit zu verbringen. Das muss damals recht schön dort gewesen sein. Er meinte mal, der charakteristischere Aspekt als dort geboren zu sein, sei ohnehin, dort gezeugt worden zu sein. Von einem VW-Bus hat er nichts gesagt. Aber irgendwo stand mal, dass der VW Bus in der Rangordnung der Fahrzeuge, in denen Kinder gezeugt wurden, ganz weit oben stehe.
     
    Ah! The good old times of Schmidt/Kohl, Baader-Meinhof and banging in a clapped-out VW bus in Afghanistan.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwn1F7xij9o

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Reg Cæsar, @Dieter Kief

    Teddybärbahnhofsteherinnen

    Na wenn du heute zum Bahnhof gehst
    Sie sind sich einer großen Überraschung sicher.
    Wenn du heute zum Bahnhof gehst
    Du solltest dich besser verkleiden!

    Für jeden Bären, den es jemals gab
    Werde sich dort sicher versammeln, weil
    heute ist der Tag
    die Teddybären haben ihr Picknick.

  165. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @El Dato


    Commander of the 82nd Airborne Division has told his British colleague to stop “embarrassing” the US troops guarding the Kabul airport by venturing into the city to rescue people, at least according to one Washington columnist.
     
    Hopefully the commander of 22 SAS borrowed a page from President Bolsonaro's book and told Major General Donohue to, "...stop being such a fag."

    Replies: @Piglet

    In British slang, a “fag” is a cigarette. Their terms for a fruit loop include “poofter” and “Sausage Nigel.”

    • Replies: @Veteran Aryan
    @Piglet


    In British slang, a “fag” is a cigarette.
     
    When I lived in Florida, I built a house for a British couple. One day, the whole work crew's jaws dropped open when the lady of the house uttered "I'm going to go out back and suck a fag."
  166. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Polistra

    Except the American population has cheered wildly as the U.S. has genocided millions of Middle Eastern civilians during our "War on Terror."

    The problem with Whites isn't that they want to fight racism or anti-immigrant groups.
    The problem is that you could lose your job if you speak out, so nobody does.

    Whites are afraid of being called "racist" not because they think it's morally wrong. They're afraid of that term because it could result in them being economically ruined and socially ostracized.

    Punishment works. Since most Whites are cowardly, it takes little to muzzle them.

    Replies: @ATBOTL

    Good thing these Middle Eastern people are legally white so we have no idea how many of them there are in America.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @ATBOTL

    3.45 million Muslims in America.

    41% identify as "White."

    https://www.pewforum.org/2017/07/26/demographic-portrait-of-muslim-americans/

    So ~1.4 million "White" Muslims in America.

    ~0.5% of the American population.

  167. @ATBOTL
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Good thing these Middle Eastern people are legally white so we have no idea how many of them there are in America.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    3.45 million Muslims in America.

    41% identify as “White.”

    https://www.pewforum.org/2017/07/26/demographic-portrait-of-muslim-americans/

    So ~1.4 million “White” Muslims in America.

    ~0.5% of the American population.

  168. @JohnnyWalker123
    @YetAnotherAnon

    What makes you think she has a father at home?

    Good chance that her father doesn't care to have involvement in his child's life.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    The girl came from AFAIK an intact family.

    But teenage boys and girls are both capable of making stupid decisions that can kill them. Boys more usually involving cars, motorcycles, fights, large bodies of water.

    I went for a row with another boy a little younger than myself. When we were more than a mile from the shore, we decided to have a swim, pulled off our clothes, jumped into the water and swam about in great delight. When we had had enough, the boat was perhaps 100 yards away. A breeze had begun to stir the waters. The boat had a small red awning over its stern seats. This awning acted as a sail by catching the breeze. As we swam towards the boat, it drifted farther off. After this had happened several times we had perhaps halved the distance. But meanwhile the breeze was freshening and we both, especially my companion, began to be tired. Up to this point no idea of danger had crossed my mind. The sun played upon the sparkling blue waters; the wonderful panorama of mountains and valleys, the gay hotels and villas still smiled. But I now saw Death as near as I believe I have ever seen him. He was swimming in the water at our side, whispering from time to time in the rising wind which continued to carry the boat away from us at about the same speed we could swim. No help was near. Unaided we could never reach the shore. I was not only an easy, but a fast swimmer, having represented my House at Harrow, when our team defeated all comers. I now swam for life. Twice I reached within a yard of the boat and each time a gust carried it just beyond my reach; but by a supreme effort I caught hold of its side in the nick of time before a still stronger gust bulged the red awning again. I scrambled in, and rowed back for my companion who, though tired, had not apparently realised the dull yellow glare of mortal peril that had so suddenly played around us.

    She’d perhaps been well indoctrinated by school and media, thought “I won’t tell them, they’d only be racist about it“. You can’t stop a child leaving the house.

  169. @El Dato
    @Clyde

    I sure hope Alden can't into German otherwise our ears will bleed.


    Teddybärbahnhofsteherinnen
     
    Oy!

    ("female person waiting at the train station where either teddy bears wait or are delivered")

    This reaches heights of a Tarantino soliloquy:

    Was mich an einen Feldwebel erinnert. Im Grundwehrdienst hatten wir einen, der, obwohl normaler Deutscher, den Spitznamen „Der Afghane“ hatte, weil die im Geschäftszimmer das Maul nicht halten konnten und überall rumerzählten, dass in seiner Personalakte stehe, dass er in Kabul, Afghanistan geboren sei. Hat aber mal erzählt, dass er sich daran sowieso nicht erinnern kann, und dass seine Eltern damals halt im Ausland arbeiten waren, und das damals noch ein recht angenehmes, modernes, reisetaugliches Land gewesen sei, über das man nichts negatives hätte sagen können, die Eltern es im Gegenteil sogar als Vorteil angesehen hätten, da mal eine Zeit zu verbringen. Das muss damals recht schön dort gewesen sein. Er meinte mal, der charakteristischere Aspekt als dort geboren zu sein, sei ohnehin, dort gezeugt worden zu sein. Von einem VW-Bus hat er nichts gesagt. Aber irgendwo stand mal, dass der VW Bus in der Rangordnung der Fahrzeuge, in denen Kinder gezeugt wurden, ganz weit oben stehe.
     
    Ah! The good old times of Schmidt/Kohl, Baader-Meinhof and banging in a clapped-out VW bus in Afghanistan.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwn1F7xij9o

    Replies: @Dieter Kief, @Reg Cæsar, @Dieter Kief

    Just one more subtext to Hadmut Danischs neologism Teddybärbahnhofsteherinnen –

    to gawk at the Teddybear (the little bear) is German slang for: stare at the vagina.

    (I could go on – because quite a few of those female Teddybeartrainstationbystanders – were actually 68 leftists and – the most important intellectual figure for German 68ers – is a man called Theodor W. Adorno. Now: Adorno means to adore and Theodor was by the insiders known as Teddy and teddy is the short form of Teddybear indeed – and Teddy Adorno was a womanizer… – – – – (this is a novel in pillform – – – – and this novel exists – cum grano salis: Die Rothschilds by Hermann Peter Piwitt – – – is not least about the wwomeenizer Theodor W. Adorno and the German nineteen-fifties’ “philosemitism as a form to overcompensate for the nazi-horors”

  170. @countenance
    Here in Germany, Syrians, who comprise 0.9% of the population, commit 12.2% of the violent offenses. I imagine the disparity is even worse among Afghans.

    Replies: @Pharaoh

    Here in Germany, Syrians, who comprise 0.9% of the population, commit 12.2% of the violent offenses. I imagine the disparity is even worse among Afghans.

    In France its the North African muslims who are similarly overrepresented. Syrians, Afghans, Berbers etc of MENA are ‘white caucasians’ in the US census.

    In North America native Americans and indigenous Canadians are heavily over-represented in the crime statistics. More so than African-Americans.

    In Malaysia it is the Indian/Hindu minority that is most heavily involved in crime.

    Clearly there is no universal correlation between crime rates and race, contradicting HBD dogma.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Pharaoh

    Yes, it is. Darker races are more criminal.

  171. Why do I keep thinking about these guys named Hengist and Horsa?

  172. @Polistra


    no one wanted to provide the right wing with fodder for nationalist agitation
     
    "Better our wives and daughters should be raped than anyone think we might be racist."

    Mollie Tibbetts's dad comes to mind. He's the norm now, not the exception.

    Replies: @ic1000, @Alden, @JohnnyWalker123, @Veteran Aryan

    “Better our wives and daughters should be raped than anyone think we might be racist.”

    I’m not sure where you got the impression that they were limiting themselves to females. Their numbers are higher only because they are, on average, easier to victimize.

  173. @Piglet
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    In British slang, a "fag" is a cigarette. Their terms for a fruit loop include "poofter" and "Sausage Nigel."

    Replies: @Veteran Aryan

    In British slang, a “fag” is a cigarette.

    When I lived in Florida, I built a house for a British couple. One day, the whole work crew’s jaws dropped open when the lady of the house uttered “I’m going to go out back and suck a fag.”

    • LOL: Dan Hayes
  174. @Gabe Ruth
    "According to Austrian police statistics, Syrian refugees cause fewer than 10 percent of sexual assault cases. Afghans, whose numbers are comparable, are responsible for a stunning half of all cases."

    Am I to understand that fully 60% of sexual assaults are committed by nationals of these two countries? Since there are probably other Mohamedan nationalities in country, presumably an even higher fraction is done my non-Austrians. Maybe this is the percentage of sexual assaults committed by non-Austrians only?

    Replies: @Godot

    Maybe this is the percentage of sexual assaults committed by non-Austrians only?

    I think it’s the number of rapes commited by asylum seekers only, the writer of that article probably confused it for the overall rate. In 2016, there were 116 rapes committed by asylum seekers, of which 54 were committed by Afghan asyum seekers.

  175. The article looks suspiciously like an attempt to shift blame for these things away from Muslims in general and onto Afghans in particular–a famously quarrelsome group who are widely disliked by other Muslims, let alone unbelievers. They make the perfect scapegoats.

  176. @Pharaoh
    @countenance


    Here in Germany, Syrians, who comprise 0.9% of the population, commit 12.2% of the violent offenses. I imagine the disparity is even worse among Afghans.
     
    In France its the North African muslims who are similarly overrepresented. Syrians, Afghans, Berbers etc of MENA are 'white caucasians' in the US census.

    In North America native Americans and indigenous Canadians are heavily over-represented in the crime statistics. More so than African-Americans.

    In Malaysia it is the Indian/Hindu minority that is most heavily involved in crime.


    Clearly there is no universal correlation between crime rates and race, contradicting HBD dogma.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Yes, it is. Darker races are more criminal.

  177. @Undisclosed
    @The Alarmist

    Veblen pretended that conspicuous consumption was something that men did out of the pleasure of knowing that women could not.

    As an example he used the consumption of excess amounts of alcohol. His argument was that men deny their wives that extra shot of scotch so that their own will taste that much sweeter.

    In fact, conspicuous consumption - a.k.a. teasing - is almost entirely a female vice.

    The sort of man who has taps in his shoes so that you'll hear him coming and going is a little light in the loafers. The sort of man who invites reporters in to see his golden toilet is named Trump. Arousing desire and jealousy in other people is universally recognized as a disgusting trait in a man.

    It is the modus operandi of women just as much as rape is the modus operandi of men.

    Most Western societies restricts the latter to the degree that 1 in 3 women surveyed in the US regarding winking by an unattractive male to be prosecutable. The former of course is not only unrestricted but encouarged. The result is - well, I don't have to tell you. If you are male and live in the west you know the result only too well.

    Most Middle Eastern societies only restrict the vices of women. Having your way with a woman who doesn't "belong" to some male or other who is part of the Ummah is not just allowed but that's what heaven is. Women however are expected to sacrifice their health and happiness to the utmost degree by covering up from head to toe and remaining indoors lest they arouse any sexual desire in a man that he must then suffer with. The result is women staying home eating and watching tv and becoming too boring not only for their husbands but for themselves.

    Most Traditional Judeo-Christian-Hindu societies (Amish, Yeshivish, Franco Spanish, Brahmacharya) restrict the vices of both men and women by describing sex as the most vile, disgusting, devilish desire in existence. In fact, two seconds after gender is created in the form of Eve the phallic snake shows up to tempt Man thus leading to humanity's exile from Eden and the curse of Death. In these societies the vice of women to catch make attention and the vice of men to touch women are both held in severe check.

    Most hunter gatherer societies do little to restrict either vice. Women sexually tease and men aren't terribly afraid to touch. A large degree of this survives among South African blacks to this day as well as among some descendants of recent hunter-gatherer communities around the world.

    Pick your poison.

    The little-restricted lattermost approach is the most conducive to human happiness but it's questionable whether it has multi-generational staying power. Wheresoever private property exists Eden can not be bequeathed.

    The Virgin Mary approach is wonderful for the continuation of humankind but often breeds such rancor and unhappiness in forced life-long ownership relationships that carefree human pleasures are reverse alchemised into inexorable plodding duties to God, Country, Family, Office, Offspring, etc.

    And the other two approaches are simply downright cruel to half of mankind and half-way cruel to the other half. Women in America would like to be swept off their feet and men in mud hut villages would like their women to not be so humorlessly boring.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    The sort of man who has taps in his shoes so that you’ll hear him coming and going is a little light in the loafers.

    The only men I ever met who wore taps were Military Training Instructors, back in the ‘70s when they were still largely straight men. Can’t speak to today’s military.

    But to your larger point and mine, the fact is that Western women who consider themselves to be progressives and on par with men in every way are going out of their way to support the importation of men who would use them as sex dolls and house slaves and then beat or kill them should they dare to object to the privileges of that life. IOW, most women are irrational too much of the time, but Western women have turned irrationality into an art.

    • Replies: @anon
    @The Alarmist

    To say that "women have feelings" is tautological but also insufficient. A more accurate statement is this:


    "Feelings have women."
     
    This can be good, bad, fun, tedious, or even indifferent. But it is a fact, and undeniable.
    They live in a vortex, or even a maelstrom, of emotion much of the time.
  178. @The Alarmist
    @Undisclosed


    The sort of man who has taps in his shoes so that you’ll hear him coming and going is a little light in the loafers.
     
    The only men I ever met who wore taps were Military Training Instructors, back in the ‘70s when they were still largely straight men. Can’t speak to today’s military.

    But to your larger point and mine, the fact is that Western women who consider themselves to be progressives and on par with men in every way are going out of their way to support the importation of men who would use them as sex dolls and house slaves and then beat or kill them should they dare to object to the privileges of that life. IOW, most women are irrational too much of the time, but Western women have turned irrationality into an art.

    Replies: @anon

    To say that “women have feelings” is tautological but also insufficient. A more accurate statement is this:

    “Feelings have women.”

    This can be good, bad, fun, tedious, or even indifferent. But it is a fact, and undeniable.
    They live in a vortex, or even a maelstrom, of emotion much of the time.

  179. This is interesting. I have a liberal acquaintance who traveled to Germany to help out at the refugee camps after Merkel let in all those Syrians. He returned disgusted with how awful these refugees were for precisely the reason mentioned in this article: the sexual assaults (also stealing, if I recall correctly).

    He indicated they were Syrians. But now I’m wondering if my acquaintance mistakenly assumed they were Syrians when in reality they were Afghans.

Comments are closed.

Subscribe to All Steve Sailer Comments via RSS
PastClassics
How America was neoconned into World War IV
“America’s strategic and economic interests in the Mideast and Muslim world are being threatened by the agony in...