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Spotted Toad is probably overthinking this in the specific, but it does seem to work like that in the general.

 
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  1. With a lot of what is happening now, it is hard to separate causes from effects, and therefore difficult to establish intent.

    But in elementary school, my science teacher would often say stuff like, “water wants to osmose.” And if it tends to cross the membrane, then I think there is some merit in saying this.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @songbird


    But in elementary school, my science teacher would often say stuff like, “water wants to osmose.” And if it tends to cross the membrane, then I think there is some merit in saying this.
     
    I think it's fair to say institutions tend to put their own interests ahead of everything else over time. I'm all for free markets, but yes, over time companies "want" to turn every country into a profit center under administrative control that benefits them.

    Maybe that's why citizens are supposed to set boundaries?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

  2. I had to hit the mutacious hyper-oxide after that one. I feel much better now.

    Does anyone actually b.*e this stuff?

    • Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist
    @Back1

    No, and neither does Spotted Toad. It's kind of on the level of the CIA sponsoring Abstract Expressionism and the Paris Review- it's helping with a narrative that's vaguely favorable to your interests, and gives you a respectable cachet amongst the right people (think having a cocktail with Peter Matthiesson's hip Yale buddies in 1955).

    Don't forget that this is a company that was selling to both sides in WWII.

  3. Anonymous[771] • Disclaimer says:

    Multinational corporations pay the New York Times to run the 1619 Project, arguing that country’s birth is irredeemably contaminated by slavery because an America that views its existence as a nation as a shameful sin is more likely to give it away to multi-national corporations.

    Spotted Toad is probably overthinking this in the specific, but it does seem to work like that in the general.

    He is only off base here in so far as he has misidentified the master perpetrators. They are not “multi-national corporations.”

    • LOL: IHTG
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Anonymous


    He is only off base here in so far as he has misidentified the master perpetrators. They are not “multi-national corporations.”
     
    A better term would be "supra-national corporations". "Multi-national" implies that they might have loyalty to more than one nation, when in fact they have loyalty to none.
  4. Or maybe companies just want to brand themselves as young / cool / progressive by association? Last I checked Shell is an oil company. And Oil is bad. But yay, women! Sorry… I meant, Yay, womxn! And Blxcks.

    If they’ve traded their vowels for x’s… that must mean they’re good, no? But but.. oil! I’m so conflicted right now.

    *reaches for the Bxn & Jxrry’s*

    • Agree: Jack D
    • Replies: @Hemid
    @ConfirmationBias


    Or maybe companies just want to brand themselves as young / cool / progressive by association?
     
    Young-cool-progress doesn't exist anywhere outside corporate images of young-cool-progress. Maybe it used to, or maybe we were just younger and dumber.

    Government-sized (and -shaped) companies don't "associate" with anything. They decide who's whom.
    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @ConfirmationBias

    Wrong. This isn't just some women's forum; it's a racial injustice whitey-is-evil fest. This isn't about being "cool." It's about protecting Shell from the Eye of Soros turning its way and further destroying the fabric of a society so corporations can do as they please.

    Also, who exactly has pushed this whites-are-evil narrative for the past 50 years, anyway? You might find some clues on that Ben and Jerry's ice cream that you're eating.

    Replies: @Jack D

  5. The fact that current America’s train ride has an unpleasant terminus doesn’t mean he’s overthinking it because it makes you antsy, Mr. Triple Bankshot Theory about why white liberals want bad whites disarmed.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack Henson

    Steve tends to give the other side the benefit of the doubt because he grew in a time when what is happening now would seem impossible so it remains so in his mind. There's an amazing amount of brain power exerted around here to avoid having to mentally accept a simple reality:

    They hate you and want you and your family turned into helots.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Jack Henson, @Corvinus

  6. Sponsored by Shell

    It almost looks like a crown.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    @Hail

    Tranny?

    , @Anon
    @Hail

    This video from CBS truly shows the disaster that is her hair, as well as unflattering side shots of her thickness.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xzNyrFhzew

    I'm assuming she isn't doing the extension/wig stuff that black women do. She should. Whatever the hell she has been using on her hair, it has comletely burned it to a Trumpian orange crisp. Her mom is white, yet she is still saddled with that hair. She seems to have gotten her brain from dad: History and AfAm Studies major.

    Also, the "Hannah-Jones": I read recently that in academia if you are a woman who gets married you had better not change your name. This is not (just) because your older publications will not show up in searches. It's because you won't get tenure. There is a left-wing bias, including from women academics, against women who change their name. It's right up their with voting for Trump. Hyphenated names are tolerated, but not ideal. I wonder if Hannah-Jones hyphenated because she is in the New York Bubblesphere? Another thing women do is to keep their maiden name as an academic "stage name" or "pen name."


    "In sociology ... women who change their names are seen as less serious and less dedicated to the field."

    "The guys who are on my best friend's dissertation committee have flat out told her she's not allowed to change her name if she gets married soon (she's engaged)."

    "I recently got married and was faced with this decision, one which many scientists before me have faced. Should I take my spouse’s last name? Am I a bad feminist if I do?"

    "I was told by several of my new professors (including my PI) that I should have kept my maiden name because of feminism, and by changing it I was destroying everything I represented as a woman. I was told changing my name would make me look like I was not dedicated to my career and prevent me from getting a job. I was told I should have kept my maiden name because chances are my husband and I are getting divorced some day and won’t that be awkward."

    "I perceived disappointment when they found out—looks as if to say, “I thought you were one of us.” ... Another aspect that surprised me was the plethora of comments from my male colleagues. Somehow, it was inconceivable that I would change my name; although, interestingly, every colleague’s wife had changed her name."
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Antonius, @Jack D, @Dissident

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Hail


    It almost looks like a crown.
     
    It's not nice to speak about the black lady's hair like that.
    , @South Texas Guy
    @Hail

    Another company to boycott. Gee whiz! It's like they've never thought about how other companies can drill for oil. It's not like they can be bullying us or anything, is it?

    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Hail

    Don't you watch TV? Queen Victoria was black or something.

    , @El Dato
    @Hail

    I don't wanna be "conversed to" or "judge" by that lady with the "I'm disappoint" look.

    When "Samantha Power" (does Marvel assign names to politicians?) looked like that from her throne, whole countries full of coloreds spontaneously combusted.

    , @TWS
    @Hail

    She looks happy.

    , @Anonymous
    @Hail


    It almost looks like a crown.
     
    When I first read this, I thought it said, “It almost looks like a clown,” and I agreed. Then I noticed it actually said crown.
    , @Oswald Spengler
    @Hail

    "We wuz quanz!"

  7. Anonymous[245] • Disclaimer says:

    …hard to separate causes from effects, and therefore difficult to establish intent.

    Disagree. This is late stage America, late stage capitalism. The corruption is there for all to see. No more benefit of the doubt should be offered.

    Intent is clear. Clumsy malice is all we get from our elites whether they be business or government.

    The megacorps have bought the congress and written liability protections into our law. They pay little in taxes. Big banks, big pharma, big oil, big ag, big insurance, big tech etc. These people have rigged the game and they are going to cause a communist revolution in this country.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    The megacorps have bought the congress and written liability protections into our law. They pay little in taxes. Big banks, big pharma, big oil, big ag, big insurance, big tech etc. These people have rigged the game and they are going to cause a communist revolution in this country.
     
    Does any group have a higher ROI with the US government that the Jews?

    “Aid” to Isreal, full tax exemption of Jewish organizations, etc.
    , @OscarWildeLoveChild
    @Anonymous

    The nation, the people, are being strip-mined and don't even see it. The infusion of liberal intent, ideas and a planned future are simply them getting in on the game, although they are a primary driver as well.

  8. I am a white. That is all. My people have white skin and their nationality is unimportant to me. I wish other people no ill, but they are not my people. If they want reparations, then I want reparations for the millions of my people who were enslaved by the Barbary pirates and the Ottomans. I regret what happened to her people but not to the extent of making any personal sacrifices.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @22pp22

    If your nationality is unimportant to you then you're on the other side. Run on along now, you're more valuable demoralizing them than anything you can accomplish here.

    Replies: @22pp22

    , @Colin Wright
    @22pp22

    '... I regret what happened to her people but not to the extent of making any personal sacrifices...'

    What? They were enslaved in any case and would have ended up as the victims in the annual human sacrifices -- but thanks to us, got sent to work as farm laborers in what became the wealthiest country in the world, in which their children became free citizens, guaranteed rights equal to all.

    They could thank us. I don't see any need to demand reparations from them, but...

    , @International Jew
    @22pp22

    Being as Nikole Hannah-Jones has one white parent and one black parent, she should just pay reparations to herself and leave us out of it.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    , @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    @22pp22


    I want reparations for the millions of my people who were enslaved by the Barbary pirates and the Ottomans.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Baltimore
    , @BB753
    @22pp22

    "My people have white skin and their nationality is unimportant to me"

    You'll find that in Europe nationality and religion trump white skin. You cannot just show up in Bulgaria and expect to be treated as a local. A white man in Europe is not exotic until he opens his mouth. America is different.

  9. I miss back when everyone had a bumper sticker that said ‘Shit Happens’.

  10. This is a question on the neo-right-wing. The “neo-reactionary” movement of Curtis Yarvin and Jim Donald says that multinational corporations like Shell, and their CEOs, have no power, are only interested in money, and go “woke” to appease the State that forces them to promote Social Justice Warriorism, LGBT-ism, and racial diversity.

    Instead, the neo-reactionaries claim that “wokeness” is a product of post-Christian – even post-Calvinist – white descendants of the Puritans. Harvard started as a Puritan seminary and just evolved into “wokeness” as they dropped the actual religion of Christianity and took up “Progressive Idealism” which is nothing but a secular form of Calvinist Christianity.

    Neo-reaction is very protective of what they call “merchants” meaning capitalists, big business, and the Fortune 500. And they are very concerned with “anti-semitism” seeing anti-semitism as a way to blame Jews for leftism and progressivism which is really promoted by post-Christian liberals.

    Of course, our host Ron Unz has thoroughly debunked the idea that Harvard specifically, and the Ivy League in general, are actually run by post-Calvinists whites and “WASPs.”

    Most dissident rightists at least acknowledge that “Conservative Inc.” and their funders like the Koch brothers and their organs like the CATO Institute have a “cheap-labor” interest in mass immigration.

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from? There are a lot of Catholic reactionary cranks like E. Michael Jones that blame “WASPs” and “Protestants” for most bad things, but they certainly have no mainstream political or social power and are relegated to the backwaters of the internet like most of us.

    I have my opinions but I’m willing to entertain the argument. What is the driving force behind Fortune 500 “wokeness?” Are the Fortune 500 companies promoting mass immigration and diversity for cheap labor, to stave off lawsuits over “racism and diversity,” or perhaps bad publicity?

    Surely no one can argue that the rich, the corporate class, the Fortune 500 CEOs, hedge fund managers, etc., have no political power. The mass media are themselves Fortune 500 companies.

    So what drives corporate “wokeness?” It’s an open question.

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @Charles
    @BannedHipster

    My theory regarding GoodWhites - as succinctly as possible: they are not stupid, childish, or hysterical. NOR, as apparently many dissidents and Alt-Righters think, do GWs truly believe the ridiculous things they say. That is on the face of it absurd. They know as well as a normal person does that things like harnassing electricity, inventing airplanes, or creating a Saint Peter's Basilica are all tasks that require creative intelligence, patience, and future-time orientation. GWs are therefore, by my theory, first and foremost liars. But WHY would they speak and behave that way, when the very people who created the GW wealth and life-style are to be destroyed? Because - certainly - the GWs do not believe THEY will be destroyed. They believe their wealth and power will insulate them, just as it does now. They believe they can destroy the people who created modern life without destroying the life itself. That may be a "crazy" thing to believe, except that the GWs DO NOT care a whit about the future (i.e., many generations from now), regardless of what they claim. They want to possess and exercise power now, in this time. Everything else is irrelevant.

    , @eugyppius
    @BannedHipster


    So what drives corporate “wokeness?” It’s an open question.

     

    At first it seemed strange to me, that capital should be woke, but in retrospect capital has wanted to be woke for a long time, and in fact it makes a great deal of sense. Wokeness is just the leftist drive for equality and tolerance without the confiscatory/ redistributionist/ socialist economic program. Of course it is kind of unexpected, how amenable and attractive capital finds leftism to be, once it has been denuded of everything it had to say about money and property and the means of production. Leftism was supposed to be the death of capital, but now that capital is allowed to be leftist and keep its money, leftism is everything that capital wants. The reasons seem to be the usual boring ones: Leftists have become natural supporters of immigration and feminism and open borders; and all of these things keep wages low and ensure the unimpeded flow of capital and labor all over the place.

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from?
     
    Now that capital is woke -- now that, like the borg, it has assimilated its opposition, namely various flavors of socialist leftist labor activism -- it can turn on its historical enemy, which was once organized labor but has become, broadly, the native overwhelmingly white working class. Thus a high-low alliance has formed, between the new urban managerial cohorts on the one hand (the SWPL-types who manage the large corporations, rather than own them; the professoriate; a great part of the clergy; doctors and lawyers; etc.); and the restive underclass minorities and recent immigrants who hope to appropriate the social and economic position of the native (white) blue collar population. This high-low alliance is manifest, in part, as a pervasive anti-whiteness, as the top and the bottom try to join forces to culturally malign, vilify and marginalize working-class people.

    Thus it has become black slaves who built this nation, whereas in the middle years of the 20th century, you were far more likely to hear that it was (white) factory workers who built American industry. Of course that was also far nearer the truth.

    Becoming more speculative, and drawing a bit on Sam Francis, I think what has happened in the modern world is that the traditional three-tier class system (upper, middle, lower) has been replaced by a five-tier system that looks like this:

    1) Upper classes: same as before, aristocrats and owners of capital
    2) Upper managerial classes: the people who actually run corporations, as opposed to owning them
    3) The traditional middle class
    4) The native working class (mostly white)
    5) The serfs: mainly newly arrived immigrants and other racial minorities

    The big change is that 1) the upper class ceased to directly managed capital and became content with distant ownership, as 2) the upper managerial classes took over the day-to-day operations of corporations and thus a great part of society. Meanwhile decades of mass immigration and an increasingly fake service economy have brought in a load of 5) serfs who provide seasonal agricultural labor, clean your hotel room, etc.

    The upper managerial classes,a cosmopolitan urban elite long opposed to nativist tendencies, political inclinations, etc. among the heretofore 3) middle and 4) working class (increasingly collapsed into each other as wages are driven downwards), have allied themselves with the serfs. Ideally this lower serf class would totally replace the troublesome, reactionary, uncooperative, ignorant, underconsuming, Trump-supporting etc. middle and working classes, which upper management hopes will lead to an economic utopia (really a dystopia) in which everybody just buys their products all the time.

    Replies: @anon, @Riccy

    , @Anonymous
    @BannedHipster


    I have my opinions but I’m willing to entertain the argument. What is the driving force behind Fortune 500 “wokeness?” Are the Fortune 500 companies promoting mass immigration and diversity for cheap labor, to stave off lawsuits over “racism and diversity,” or perhaps bad publicity?
     
    It is primarily to avoid attacks in the media. It is secondarily to avoid lawsuits. The media attitudes and the relevant laws are to a significant extent the product of Jewish influence.
    , @dfordoom
    @BannedHipster


    What is the driving force behind Fortune 500 “wokeness?”
     
    Diverting attention away from their wealth.

    They want to persuade you that they are not evil robber baron capitalists. These are kind, sensitive, gentle, caring capitalists. They don't care about money. They just want to help people. They like kittens. Please stop thinking about how filthy rich they are. Think of all the good they do.
    , @Hibernian
    @BannedHipster

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from? There are a lot of Catholic reactionary cranks like E. Michael Jones that blame “WASPs” and “Protestants” for most bad things, but they certainly have no mainstream political or social power and are relegated to the backwaters of the internet like most of us.

    American society is indelibly marked by the many years in which the neo-Calvinists had great power.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @Monsieur le Baron
    @BannedHipster

    They're woke because they want to be woke. It's in their nature. I think a commentor said engineers and doctors skew conservative, but this is only true by comparison to the rest of the UMC+. Engineers and Doctors only go 50/50 on party affiliation. Gentry are more overrepresented than Jews in revolutions.

    Is this rational? Well, was it rational for the scorpion to sting the frog? Spandrell has a story of virtue signal spiraling from Ancient China. And I'll leave you with the Russian Revolution. The terror of getting everything you asked for.

    >In the first days of the revolution Paul Grabbe remembered his mother coming home terribly upset. “‘Imagine!’ she said to me. ‘I just ran into Countess Sheremetev; and how do you suppose she greeted me? She said: ‘Isn’t it wonderful?’ and I said, ‘What’s wonderful?’ and she said, ‘Why, the Revolution, of course!’ and I said, ‘Well, Countess, you’re hardly the one to rejoice. It is precisely people like us who stand to lose everything.’”25 These two feelings—joy and fear—marked the most common responses, and some nobles experienced both.

    , @Faraday's Bobcat
    @BannedHipster

    Two reasons:

    1. Divide and conquer strategy to keep all the people who have no capital from teaming up and doing a 1917 on them.

    2. Destroying all traditional forms of status like citizenship, fatherhood, motherhood, etc. so that the only way to get status is to buy it.

    , @FPD72
    @BannedHipster

    As a regional director in one of the three largest property and casualty insurance companies in America, I attended a national directors’ conference. During the meeting, the president spoke proudly of the company’s diverse board of directors and then reviewed the CVs of each of them. Every one of them attended northeastern private universities. Every one of them lived in New York or New England. They were as educationally diverse as bowling pins; they were almost clones, with a few directors having darker skins than the rest.

    After the meeting I went up to the president and cited the lack of educational and geographical diversity. “What about the type of people who worked their way through the University of Missouri washing dishes and then went on to have highly successful careers? Do you think they might have a different set of life experiences and different perspectives?” I asked him.

    He blinked at me, stammered a few words, and dismissed me.

    I would rather see our companies run by people who graduated from Michigan State, Texas Tech, Auburn, Cal Poly, and Utah than a bunch of pampered freaks who have liberal arts degrees from elite private schools and have never done a day of physical labor in their lives, but it’s the latter who are sitting on the boards of most companies.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @RW
    @BannedHipster


    I have my opinions but I’m willing to entertain the argument. What is the driving force behind Fortune 500 “wokeness?” Are the Fortune 500 companies promoting mass immigration and diversity for cheap labor, to stave off lawsuits over “racism and diversity,” or perhaps bad publicity?
     
    Peter Frost gives a good answer this question in his now famous essay "The Emerging Synthesis in Humanbiodiversity" http://evoandproud.blogspot.com/2015/01/sometimes-consensus-is-phony.html :

    "To stave off unrest, economic systems require legitimacy, and legitimacy is made possible by ideology: a vision of a better future; how we can get there from here; and why we're not getting there despite the best efforts. Economic systems don't create ideology, but they do create conditions that favor some ideologies over others. With the collapse of the old left in the late 1980s, and the rise of market globalization, antiracism found a new purpose ... as a source of legitimacy for the globalist project.

    "With the disintegration of the old socialist left, antiracists were freer to follow their natural inclinations, first by replacing class politics with identity politics, and second by making common cause with the political right, especially for the project of creating a globalized economy. Antiracism became a means to a new end.

    "This is the context that now frames the war on racism. For people in a position to influence public policy, antiracism is not only a moral imperative but also an economic one. It makes the difference between a sluggish return on investment of only 2 to 3% (which is typical in a mature economy) and a much higher one."
  11. No. He’s not.

    This is exactly what is happening, and why.

    • Agree: Rosie
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Desiderius


    No. He’s not.

    This is exactly what is happening, and why.
     
    Nope. Corporations aren’t the prime movers. Racial groups seeking to conquer Whites are, and they have created incentives through media for corporations to do their bidding.

    Replies: @Rosie

  12. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    Well, I agree not a single black should have been brought to the New Land.

    Therefore, the 2020 project must be repatriation. Save blacks from incorrigibly ‘racist’ US and send them to wonderful Africa.

    If blacks hadn’t been brought to the US, things would have been better in the long run for whites. For blacks who would have remained in Africa, who cares?

    One thing for sure, when whites and blacks met, whites didn’t sell whites to non-whites, but blacks were more than willing to sell blacks to non-blacks.

    In a way, one might say it was good for blacks to go from a people who sell their own race to a race that doesn’t sell their own race. The latter race has SOME sense of conscience, and this conscience could even decide to treat blacks like whites. But never mind all that. Blacks are holy and exist, like Jews and homos, to be worshiped. Ideology is dead, ‘Idology’ is what counts. Instead of same ideas/rules for everyone, some groups are more equal than others.

    Btw, let’s get 1881 going. First Zionist invasion of Palestine.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Btw, let’s get 1881 going. First Zionist invasion of Palestine.
     
    Zionists have been invading Palestine since the twelfth century BC.

    And, yes, I said "BC", not the faggoty "BCE" you keep hearing nowadays. And "CE"-- "Cucks' Era"?

    Replies: @Charles, @Jack D, @njguy73

    , @Hans
    @Anonymous

    And with the overwhelming Jewish presence in the slave trade, there'll be plenty of money forthcoming for reparations. Unless, we've already paid more than enough.

    Replies: @Jack D, @njguy73

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    Btw, let’s get 1881 going. First Zionist invasion of Palestine.
     
    This. Did any event (save Lincoln’s war) have a more significant impact on the Twentieth Century and beyond? What would the outcome of World War I have been without Zionism? What would Hitler’s impression of Jews have been without Zionism? What would Jewish support for Hitler’s policies (segregation, transfer), and thus for Hitler himself, have been absent Zionism?
  13. @22pp22
    I am a white. That is all. My people have white skin and their nationality is unimportant to me. I wish other people no ill, but they are not my people. If they want reparations, then I want reparations for the millions of my people who were enslaved by the Barbary pirates and the Ottomans. I regret what happened to her people but not to the extent of making any personal sacrifices.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Colin Wright, @International Jew, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @BB753

    If your nationality is unimportant to you then you’re on the other side. Run on along now, you’re more valuable demoralizing them than anything you can accomplish here.

    • Replies: @22pp22
    @Desiderius

    My nationality was abolished. I have little in common with the people who carry the same passport. If you are American, the same thing applies to you one hundred fold.

    Replies: @Hail

  14. There’s an extra step in there he’s eliding, which he then quotes Fred Bauer to provide:

    Basically, nationalism can serve as a check (from the right) on corporations, so important to weaken it.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @SFG


    from the right
     
    Lol.

    https://pesd.princeton.edu/?q=node/266

    Related:

    https://newcriterion.com/issues/2020/1/pre-post-citizens
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @SFG


    Basically, nationalism can serve as a check (from the right) on corporations, so important to weaken it.
     
    As was the Church, once. Nationalists tend to forget that.

    Or maybe not. The First Commandment interferes with the worship of the nation they espouse. So, as do the socialists, they see it as a rival.


    https://talkbusiness.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/10commandmentsmonument.jpg

    Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

  15. @Back1
    I had to hit the mutacious hyper-oxide after that one. I feel much better now.

    Does anyone actually b.*e this stuff?

    Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist

    No, and neither does Spotted Toad. It’s kind of on the level of the CIA sponsoring Abstract Expressionism and the Paris Review– it’s helping with a narrative that’s vaguely favorable to your interests, and gives you a respectable cachet amongst the right people (think having a cocktail with Peter Matthiesson’s hip Yale buddies in 1955).

    Don’t forget that this is a company that was selling to both sides in WWII.

  16. @Hail

    Sponsored by Shell
     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMcakmBUwAE3nLf.png

    It almost looks like a crown.

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @Anon, @PiltdownMan, @South Texas Guy, @MikeatMikedotMike, @El Dato, @TWS, @Anonymous, @Oswald Spengler

    Tranny?

  17. Anon[337] • Disclaimer says:

    I wonder what the deal with this is?:

    This event is FREE but RSVP is REQUIRED to attend

    Invitations and RSVPs are NON-TRANSFERABLE

    I’m imagining some sort of screening process. They want to know your name. I wonder if this is so they can find you after the event if you cause trouble, or also to keep you from attending the event if you show up on their “no-fly list.” I wonder if there are such lists out there, of right-winger troublemakers and of left-wing troublemakers?

    I’ve always thought that this would be a good way to deal with right-wing speakers on campus, advance videoed off-site reservations in person with photo ID and photo ID check at the hall.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Anon


    I wonder if there are such lists out there, of right-winger troublemakers and of left-wing troublemakers?
     
    Oh yeah, there’s a ton of them. I interned for a US Senator branch office for a while and they possess special lists for campaign/official visit trouble makers. It’s likely ballooned on account of social media and performance artists. I learned early on that right-wing troublemakers are more often “lone wolf” types while the lefty troublemakers “attack” in swarms. (Both *mainly* cause trouble in the form of heckling.) The politicians are mainly afraid of a “Hey Goldberg!” “Bonfire of the Vanities” heckler attack like what happened to that Mayor in the book’s beginning.

    https://youtu.be/21R_8asVqz0
    , @anon
    @Anon

    They want to know your name. I wonder if this is so they can find you after the event if you cause trouble, or also to keep you from attending the event if you show up on their “no-fly list.”

    Both.

    Kronos
    It’s likely ballooned on account of social media and performance artists.

    I'm sure there's an app for it. Perhaps Google Drive+ or something cloud based.

    Soros funded no doubt.

    Konspiracy web site sez Soros orgs including Media Matters planning to push Others off social media in 2020. Kind of an open secret, really. Will it happen? We'll see.

    https://newspunch.com/memo-soros-funded-social-media-censorship-plan/

  18. Maybe Shell wants to do another Ogoniland – this time on us.

  19. @SFG
    There's an extra step in there he's eliding, which he then quotes Fred Bauer to provide:

    https://twitter.com/fredbauerblog/status/1208754784309850112

    Basically, nationalism can serve as a check (from the right) on corporations, so important to weaken it.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar

  20. The New York Times understands its audience for this project very well indeed. That audience is the entire cohort of college-educated twentysomethings and millennials who have been primed by their humanities education to receive the shaming, and who solemnly believe the times to be the Newspaper of Record.

    The Times serves as their morning chat with their graduate adviser or office hours visit to their diversity studies professor. It’s a post-college placebo.

    This could be laughed away if that same group of people weren’t so embedded in our governing and policy elites as the rising generation of leaders for the next few decades. What’s going on is a sort of post-dated race hustle, primed to take effect as a shakedown ten or twenty years from now, when these young people reach positions of great power and influence.

  21. @songbird
    With a lot of what is happening now, it is hard to separate causes from effects, and therefore difficult to establish intent.

    But in elementary school, my science teacher would often say stuff like, "water wants to osmose." And if it tends to cross the membrane, then I think there is some merit in saying this.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    But in elementary school, my science teacher would often say stuff like, “water wants to osmose.” And if it tends to cross the membrane, then I think there is some merit in saying this.

    I think it’s fair to say institutions tend to put their own interests ahead of everything else over time. I’m all for free markets, but yes, over time companies “want” to turn every country into a profit center under administrative control that benefits them.

    Maybe that’s why citizens are supposed to set boundaries?

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @RichardTaylor


    I’m all for free markets, but yes, over time companies “want” to turn every country into a profit center under administrative control that benefits them.

    Maybe that’s why citizens are supposed to set boundaries?
     

    I tend to go as far as to claim that we need politics in such situations.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

  22. The corporation has a burden of original sin. The manager who built it into a global powerhouse, Henri Deterding, was a Nazi until the day of his death. Photograph from his funeral:

    https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/deterding-sir-henri-19-04-1866-entrepreneur-executive-of-news-photo/545947539

    Like a lot of his cohorts he got his start hating Communism.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Morton's toes

    Shell was founded by a Jewish Brit!

  23. Anon[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    Sponsored by Shell
     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMcakmBUwAE3nLf.png

    It almost looks like a crown.

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @Anon, @PiltdownMan, @South Texas Guy, @MikeatMikedotMike, @El Dato, @TWS, @Anonymous, @Oswald Spengler

    This video from CBS truly shows the disaster that is her hair, as well as unflattering side shots of her thickness.

    I’m assuming she isn’t doing the extension/wig stuff that black women do. She should. Whatever the hell she has been using on her hair, it has comletely burned it to a Trumpian orange crisp. Her mom is white, yet she is still saddled with that hair. She seems to have gotten her brain from dad: History and AfAm Studies major.

    Also, the “Hannah-Jones”: I read recently that in academia if you are a woman who gets married you had better not change your name. This is not (just) because your older publications will not show up in searches. It’s because you won’t get tenure. There is a left-wing bias, including from women academics, against women who change their name. It’s right up their with voting for Trump. Hyphenated names are tolerated, but not ideal. I wonder if Hannah-Jones hyphenated because she is in the New York Bubblesphere? Another thing women do is to keep their maiden name as an academic “stage name” or “pen name.”

    “In sociology … women who change their names are seen as less serious and less dedicated to the field.”

    “The guys who are on my best friend’s dissertation committee have flat out told her she’s not allowed to change her name if she gets married soon (she’s engaged).”

    “I recently got married and was faced with this decision, one which many scientists before me have faced. Should I take my spouse’s last name? Am I a bad feminist if I do?”

    “I was told by several of my new professors (including my PI) that I should have kept my maiden name because of feminism, and by changing it I was destroying everything I represented as a woman. I was told changing my name would make me look like I was not dedicated to my career and prevent me from getting a job. I was told I should have kept my maiden name because chances are my husband and I are getting divorced some day and won’t that be awkward.”

    “I perceived disappointment when they found out—looks as if to say, “I thought you were one of us.” … Another aspect that surprised me was the plethora of comments from my male colleagues. Somehow, it was inconceivable that I would change my name; although, interestingly, every colleague’s wife had changed her name.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon

    Interesting choice of business name by her husband, an "Information Technology Engineer":


    Technology Consultant
    1619 Enterprises

    Aug 2017 – Jun 2018 11 months

    Brooklyn, NY.

    Provide technology services for clients who need assistance in creating a digital presence(web and social media), maintaining communications with their customer base and technology-related support.

    Provide technology services for clients who need assistance in creating a digital presence(web and social media), maintaining communications with their customer base and technology-related support.
     

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @Antonius
    @Anon

    The previous owner won the Kentucky Derby so I am told

    , @Jack D
    @Anon

    This cuts both ways. My SIL is an academic and she married back in the day when it was normal to change your name. Then later she got divorced but she had to keep her ex-husband's last name because all of her publications were under that name. In general, you don't want to be changing your name in academia because it will mess up your publication record. I'm sure there's an exception for trannies.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Dissident
    @Anon


    This video from CBS truly shows the disaster that is her hair, as well as unflattering side shots of her thickness.

    I’m assuming she isn’t doing the extension/wig stuff that black women do. She should. Whatever the hell she has been using on her hair, it has comletely burned it to a Trumpian orange crisp. Her mom is white, yet she is still saddled with that hair.
     

    Nikole Hannah-Jones' physical appearance is just so germane to this discussion, isn't it? Thanks for elevating it, and for demonstrating your own frivolity, pettiness and gratuitous spite.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  24. @22pp22
    I am a white. That is all. My people have white skin and their nationality is unimportant to me. I wish other people no ill, but they are not my people. If they want reparations, then I want reparations for the millions of my people who were enslaved by the Barbary pirates and the Ottomans. I regret what happened to her people but not to the extent of making any personal sacrifices.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Colin Wright, @International Jew, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @BB753

    ‘… I regret what happened to her people but not to the extent of making any personal sacrifices…’

    What? They were enslaved in any case and would have ended up as the victims in the annual human sacrifices — but thanks to us, got sent to work as farm laborers in what became the wealthiest country in the world, in which their children became free citizens, guaranteed rights equal to all.

    They could thank us. I don’t see any need to demand reparations from them, but…

  25. Typical Dutch company behavior trying to atone for their country’s involvement in slavery. Add that its an oil company and you have the easiest shakedown ever for the woke crowd.

  26. It’s Royal Dutch Shell. The Dutch have a relatively short and trivial history with slavery. They feel they can lord it over us, morally.

    But the glazing on their former HQ building in Amsterdam was larded with flecks of gold. And whence came that gold?

    Reparations may be in order.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Reg Cæsar


    And whence came that gold?
     
    China? Australia? Russia?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gold_production

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Reg Cæsar


    Reparations may be in order.
     
    This guy should be made to give reparations before Shell does, but, alas, they beat him to death a few years ago for being too happy.

    https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/indian-business-man-famous-flaunting-shirt-made-gold-worth-150000-beaten-death-1570812

    , @Hibernian
    @Reg Cæsar

    Their history with slavery was less than that of the British because they lost the Cape Colony to the British.

    Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    , @Jim bob Lassiter
    @Reg Cæsar

    Short and trivial history with slavery? Not if you count the Dutch-Jewish merchantile bankers and shippers who underwrote the trafficking.

    , @syonredux
    @Reg Cæsar


    It’s Royal Dutch Shell. The Dutch have a relatively short and trivial history with slavery.

     

    Dunno...

    Between 1596 and 1829, the Dutch transported about half a million Africans across the Atlantic. Large numbers were taken to the small islands of Curaçao and St. Eustatius, in the Caribbean. Most of the Africans landed there, however, were subsequently trans-shipped to Spanish colonies. The two islands were thus staging posts for the re-sale and dispatch of Africans who survived the Middle Passage to other American slave colonies.
     
    http://slaveryandremembrance.org/articles/article/?id=A0145

    The Dutch sugar plantations in Suriname were quite brutal, even by the standards of "sugar slavery"...

    Replies: @S

  27. @SFG
    There's an extra step in there he's eliding, which he then quotes Fred Bauer to provide:

    https://twitter.com/fredbauerblog/status/1208754784309850112

    Basically, nationalism can serve as a check (from the right) on corporations, so important to weaken it.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar

    Basically, nationalism can serve as a check (from the right) on corporations, so important to weaken it.

    As was the Church, once. Nationalists tend to forget that.

    Or maybe not. The First Commandment interferes with the worship of the nation they espouse. So, as do the socialists, they see it as a rival.

    • Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    @Reg Cæsar


    So, as do the socialists, they see it as a rival.

     

    You raise an interesting point, but, it ultimately depends on which nationalist group we're talking about. Certainly the National Socialists seem to have seen Christianity - both the "Church" and the Protestants - as rivals. On the other hand, every Spanish Catholic I've ever known (as well as some wealthier or more aristocratic South Americans) happily celebrated Victory Day, which to them signified General Franco's victory over the communists.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqaQi7uZHcQ

    There have been plenty of other Catholic integralist-nationalist movements. Also, in the East, there are pretty few Slavic nationalists who see the "Church" as a rival. Of course, the East also has a different ecclesiology, but, still.

  28. @Desiderius
    @22pp22

    If your nationality is unimportant to you then you're on the other side. Run on along now, you're more valuable demoralizing them than anything you can accomplish here.

    Replies: @22pp22

    My nationality was abolished. I have little in common with the people who carry the same passport. If you are American, the same thing applies to you one hundred fold.

    • Troll: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Hail
    @22pp22

    From your other posts it appears the "abolished nationality" passport you carry begins with "Aust" and ends with "ia," but has few to no associations with Hitler.

    Replies: @22pp22

  29. How must oil does Shell get from hastily cobbled together post-colonial states? Isn’t Nigerian coastal violence (and pollution) solidly Shell’s fault? This is an unusually clear cut case of what all this garbage really is, which is a serial rapist pointing his finger at the courtroom and explaining how, due to the implicit violence in marital sex, when you really think about it, man, ALL OF YOU are the REAL rapists!!!!!1!

  30. @22pp22
    I am a white. That is all. My people have white skin and their nationality is unimportant to me. I wish other people no ill, but they are not my people. If they want reparations, then I want reparations for the millions of my people who were enslaved by the Barbary pirates and the Ottomans. I regret what happened to her people but not to the extent of making any personal sacrifices.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Colin Wright, @International Jew, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @BB753

    Being as Nikole Hannah-Jones has one white parent and one black parent, she should just pay reparations to herself and leave us out of it.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @International Jew

    So that black-and-white dress is the visual manifestation of her inner struggle for personal identity ... or perhaps just a subliminal reminder to pick up some of those big black-and-white cookies at the bakery

  31. @Hail

    Sponsored by Shell
     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMcakmBUwAE3nLf.png

    It almost looks like a crown.

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @Anon, @PiltdownMan, @South Texas Guy, @MikeatMikedotMike, @El Dato, @TWS, @Anonymous, @Oswald Spengler

    It almost looks like a crown.

    It’s not nice to speak about the black lady’s hair like that.

  32. @Reg Cæsar
    It's Royal Dutch Shell. The Dutch have a relatively short and trivial history with slavery. They feel they can lord it over us, morally.

    But the glazing on their former HQ building in Amsterdam was larded with flecks of gold. And whence came that gold?

    Reparations may be in order.


    https://adamtoren.nl/wp-content/uploads/ADAM_GoldenHour1B.jpg

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @PiltdownMan, @Hibernian, @Jim bob Lassiter, @syonredux

    And whence came that gold?

    China? Australia? Russia?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gold_production

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @PiltdownMan

    Colliding Neutron Stars.

    https://www.quantamagazine.org/did-neutron-stars-or-supernovas-forge-the-universes-supply-of-gold-20170323/

    https://d2r55xnwy6nx47.cloudfront.net/uploads/2017/03/Gold_Mines_20001.png

  33. @22pp22
    @Desiderius

    My nationality was abolished. I have little in common with the people who carry the same passport. If you are American, the same thing applies to you one hundred fold.

    Replies: @Hail

    From your other posts it appears the “abolished nationality” passport you carry begins with “Aust” and ends with “ia,” but has few to no associations with Hitler.

    • Replies: @22pp22
    @Hail

    Close but not quite.

    I do have a house in Australia, but I am not an Ozzie citizen. Much of Australia is the best country on earth. Melbourne is just another globohomo city complete with African gang violence.

    I was born in the UK. London is no longer England.

  34. @Reg Cæsar
    It's Royal Dutch Shell. The Dutch have a relatively short and trivial history with slavery. They feel they can lord it over us, morally.

    But the glazing on their former HQ building in Amsterdam was larded with flecks of gold. And whence came that gold?

    Reparations may be in order.


    https://adamtoren.nl/wp-content/uploads/ADAM_GoldenHour1B.jpg

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @PiltdownMan, @Hibernian, @Jim bob Lassiter, @syonredux

    Reparations may be in order.

    This guy should be made to give reparations before Shell does, but, alas, they beat him to death a few years ago for being too happy.

    https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/indian-business-man-famous-flaunting-shirt-made-gold-worth-150000-beaten-death-1570812

  35. Why Your Country Is Fundamentally Illegitimate,” Brought to You by Shell Oil

    Businessmen who ruthlessly enforce their own property rights telling everyone else (I.e., the citizens of the United States) that they have no right to enforce theirs.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  36. Anon[851] • Disclaimer says:

    Deep down, people who want to be scolded and treated like dirt have a powerful biological craving to move to the bottom of the pecking order, and they’re constantly looking around for someone who will put them there. They’re masochists. Liberals are masochists. The average white liberal gets a real thrill out of a big, mean, black dominatrix scolding them for being bad.

    I strongly recommend that conservatives bring back spanking in schools as a punishment–but for liberal students only. It means that liberals would start fixating on and worshipping what conservatives say to get their emotional high. In other words, after a stout caning, liberals will be soon learn to recognize conservatives as their master, and they’ll start shrieking, “Yes, sir, please may I have another?” and promising to obey everything conservatives say or do. It’ll bring a lot of liberals to heel pretty quickly if conservatives work to establish dominance and maintain a pecking order with liberals at the bottom. Conservatives have failed to do this in the last couple of generations, which is why liberals kick up such a fuss about how they want to be treated like dirt and they aren’t getting it. They keep looking around for someone to punish them.

    Liberals have a whole fantasy life of ‘the Evil Conservative,’ which they relish and love to linger over. They label everyone who disagrees Evil Conservatives because they’re trying to provoke retaliation from other people to get the punishment they crave. And Conservatives are being real sadists when they say no, and behave in a live-and-let-live way. Liberals just hate this. The main reason why they’re fixated on Trump is because Trump is a dominant, brusque male. Liberals are attacking him because he fits their fantasy of the perfect dominant male, and they want him to retaliate and put them in their place. They don’t get that masochistic emotional high unless he does. Trump being live-and-let-live and let’s-all-be-adults-here-and-behave-like-reasonable-people just drives them nuts and negates their fantasy.

    This is why liberal white women melt at the thought of violent black males, Hispanics, and Mideastern terrorists dominating them. Conservatives are not playing their biologically-ordained role as masters on top of the pecking order, and this has created much discontent at the bottom of the social order, which is begging to be curbed. People with the mentality of slaves hate freedom. This is one reason why liberals hate free speech, and despise those who don’t want a nanny state.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Anon

    "I strongly recommend that conservatives bring back spanking in schools as a punishment–but for liberal students only."

    Anon, you and Tiny Duck appear to share some interests...may I suggest "The Diary of Wackford Squeers" for some interesting bed time reading.

  37. Isn’t Shell grievously ‘sploiting in Nigeria?

    Or was that Total-Elf-Fina? Or someone else?

    It’s hard to keep up to and distinguish the Clean from the Dirty.

    Meanwhile, US companies “safekeeping” Syrian oil because of things.

  38. @Morton's toes
    The corporation has a burden of original sin. The manager who built it into a global powerhouse, Henri Deterding, was a Nazi until the day of his death. Photograph from his funeral:

    https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/deterding-sir-henri-19-04-1866-entrepreneur-executive-of-news-photo/545947539

    Like a lot of his cohorts he got his start hating Communism.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    Shell was founded by a Jewish Brit!

  39. The lecture series’ in my preferred dystopia should be brought to us by Carl’s Jr. With extra bigass fries.

  40. The fact that current America’s train ride has an unpleasant terminus doesn’t mean he’s overthinking it because it makes you antsy, Mr. Triple Bankshot Theory about why white liberals want bad whites disarmed.

  41. @Hail

    Sponsored by Shell
     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMcakmBUwAE3nLf.png

    It almost looks like a crown.

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @Anon, @PiltdownMan, @South Texas Guy, @MikeatMikedotMike, @El Dato, @TWS, @Anonymous, @Oswald Spengler

    Another company to boycott. Gee whiz! It’s like they’ve never thought about how other companies can drill for oil. It’s not like they can be bullying us or anything, is it?

  42. Anonymous[407] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    @Hail

    This video from CBS truly shows the disaster that is her hair, as well as unflattering side shots of her thickness.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xzNyrFhzew

    I'm assuming she isn't doing the extension/wig stuff that black women do. She should. Whatever the hell she has been using on her hair, it has comletely burned it to a Trumpian orange crisp. Her mom is white, yet she is still saddled with that hair. She seems to have gotten her brain from dad: History and AfAm Studies major.

    Also, the "Hannah-Jones": I read recently that in academia if you are a woman who gets married you had better not change your name. This is not (just) because your older publications will not show up in searches. It's because you won't get tenure. There is a left-wing bias, including from women academics, against women who change their name. It's right up their with voting for Trump. Hyphenated names are tolerated, but not ideal. I wonder if Hannah-Jones hyphenated because she is in the New York Bubblesphere? Another thing women do is to keep their maiden name as an academic "stage name" or "pen name."


    "In sociology ... women who change their names are seen as less serious and less dedicated to the field."

    "The guys who are on my best friend's dissertation committee have flat out told her she's not allowed to change her name if she gets married soon (she's engaged)."

    "I recently got married and was faced with this decision, one which many scientists before me have faced. Should I take my spouse’s last name? Am I a bad feminist if I do?"

    "I was told by several of my new professors (including my PI) that I should have kept my maiden name because of feminism, and by changing it I was destroying everything I represented as a woman. I was told changing my name would make me look like I was not dedicated to my career and prevent me from getting a job. I was told I should have kept my maiden name because chances are my husband and I are getting divorced some day and won’t that be awkward."

    "I perceived disappointment when they found out—looks as if to say, “I thought you were one of us.” ... Another aspect that surprised me was the plethora of comments from my male colleagues. Somehow, it was inconceivable that I would change my name; although, interestingly, every colleague’s wife had changed her name."
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Antonius, @Jack D, @Dissident

    Interesting choice of business name by her husband, an “Information Technology Engineer”:

    Technology Consultant
    1619 Enterprises

    Aug 2017 – Jun 2018 11 months

    Brooklyn, NY.

    Provide technology services for clients who need assistance in creating a digital presence(web and social media), maintaining communications with their customer base and technology-related support.

    Provide technology services for clients who need assistance in creating a digital presence(web and social media), maintaining communications with their customer base and technology-related support.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Anonymous

    So hubby was charging sophisticated and urbane Brooklynites $500 an hour to set up their Facebook and Twitter accounts?

    That's quite the hustle.

  43. In the “transplaining” photo a couple of posts back, if you look closely there are Morgan Stanley and KPMG logos on the presentation that’s behind them. None of these things are gritty grass roots efforts.

  44. @Hail
    @22pp22

    From your other posts it appears the "abolished nationality" passport you carry begins with "Aust" and ends with "ia," but has few to no associations with Hitler.

    Replies: @22pp22

    Close but not quite.

    I do have a house in Australia, but I am not an Ozzie citizen. Much of Australia is the best country on earth. Melbourne is just another globohomo city complete with African gang violence.

    I was born in the UK. London is no longer England.

  45. @Anonymous
    Well, I agree not a single black should have been brought to the New Land.

    Therefore, the 2020 project must be repatriation. Save blacks from incorrigibly 'racist' US and send them to wonderful Africa.

    If blacks hadn't been brought to the US, things would have been better in the long run for whites. For blacks who would have remained in Africa, who cares?

    One thing for sure, when whites and blacks met, whites didn't sell whites to non-whites, but blacks were more than willing to sell blacks to non-blacks.

    In a way, one might say it was good for blacks to go from a people who sell their own race to a race that doesn't sell their own race. The latter race has SOME sense of conscience, and this conscience could even decide to treat blacks like whites. But never mind all that. Blacks are holy and exist, like Jews and homos, to be worshiped. Ideology is dead, 'Idology' is what counts. Instead of same ideas/rules for everyone, some groups are more equal than others.

    Btw, let's get 1881 going. First Zionist invasion of Palestine.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Hans, @Anonymous

    Btw, let’s get 1881 going. First Zionist invasion of Palestine.

    Zionists have been invading Palestine since the twelfth century BC.

    And, yes, I said “BC”, not the faggoty “BCE” you keep hearing nowadays. And “CE”– “Cucks’ Era”?

    • Replies: @Charles
    @Reg Cæsar

    I will never surrender or betray Before Christ and Anno Domini.

    Replies: @Hunsdon

    , @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    They all have to go back (to Ur Kasdim).

    , @njguy73
    @Reg Cæsar

    I use BCE and CE. But not because I'm anti-religion or a cuck. It's because I'm not Christian.

    I would never tell a Christian not to use BC and AD. To deny them the use of those would be to deny them their religious freedom.

    Replies: @a guy named me

  46. @BannedHipster
    This is a question on the neo-right-wing. The "neo-reactionary" movement of Curtis Yarvin and Jim Donald says that multinational corporations like Shell, and their CEOs, have no power, are only interested in money, and go "woke" to appease the State that forces them to promote Social Justice Warriorism, LGBT-ism, and racial diversity.

    Instead, the neo-reactionaries claim that "wokeness" is a product of post-Christian - even post-Calvinist - white descendants of the Puritans. Harvard started as a Puritan seminary and just evolved into "wokeness" as they dropped the actual religion of Christianity and took up "Progressive Idealism" which is nothing but a secular form of Calvinist Christianity.

    Neo-reaction is very protective of what they call "merchants" meaning capitalists, big business, and the Fortune 500. And they are very concerned with "anti-semitism" seeing anti-semitism as a way to blame Jews for leftism and progressivism which is really promoted by post-Christian liberals.

    Of course, our host Ron Unz has thoroughly debunked the idea that Harvard specifically, and the Ivy League in general, are actually run by post-Calvinists whites and "WASPs."

    Most dissident rightists at least acknowledge that "Conservative Inc." and their funders like the Koch brothers and their organs like the CATO Institute have a "cheap-labor" interest in mass immigration.

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from? There are a lot of Catholic reactionary cranks like E. Michael Jones that blame "WASPs" and "Protestants" for most bad things, but they certainly have no mainstream political or social power and are relegated to the backwaters of the internet like most of us.

    I have my opinions but I'm willing to entertain the argument. What is the driving force behind Fortune 500 "wokeness?" Are the Fortune 500 companies promoting mass immigration and diversity for cheap labor, to stave off lawsuits over "racism and diversity," or perhaps bad publicity?

    Surely no one can argue that the rich, the corporate class, the Fortune 500 CEOs, hedge fund managers, etc., have no political power. The mass media are themselves Fortune 500 companies.

    So what drives corporate "wokeness?" It's an open question.

    Replies: @Charles, @eugyppius, @Anonymous, @dfordoom, @Hibernian, @Monsieur le Baron, @Faraday's Bobcat, @FPD72, @RW

    My theory regarding GoodWhites – as succinctly as possible: they are not stupid, childish, or hysterical. NOR, as apparently many dissidents and Alt-Righters think, do GWs truly believe the ridiculous things they say. That is on the face of it absurd. They know as well as a normal person does that things like harnassing electricity, inventing airplanes, or creating a Saint Peter’s Basilica are all tasks that require creative intelligence, patience, and future-time orientation. GWs are therefore, by my theory, first and foremost liars. But WHY would they speak and behave that way, when the very people who created the GW wealth and life-style are to be destroyed? Because – certainly – the GWs do not believe THEY will be destroyed. They believe their wealth and power will insulate them, just as it does now. They believe they can destroy the people who created modern life without destroying the life itself. That may be a “crazy” thing to believe, except that the GWs DO NOT care a whit about the future (i.e., many generations from now), regardless of what they claim. They want to possess and exercise power now, in this time. Everything else is irrelevant.

    • Agree: BannedHipster
  47. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Btw, let’s get 1881 going. First Zionist invasion of Palestine.
     
    Zionists have been invading Palestine since the twelfth century BC.

    And, yes, I said "BC", not the faggoty "BCE" you keep hearing nowadays. And "CE"-- "Cucks' Era"?

    Replies: @Charles, @Jack D, @njguy73

    I will never surrender or betray Before Christ and Anno Domini.

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    @Charles

    Hear him.

  48. @BannedHipster
    This is a question on the neo-right-wing. The "neo-reactionary" movement of Curtis Yarvin and Jim Donald says that multinational corporations like Shell, and their CEOs, have no power, are only interested in money, and go "woke" to appease the State that forces them to promote Social Justice Warriorism, LGBT-ism, and racial diversity.

    Instead, the neo-reactionaries claim that "wokeness" is a product of post-Christian - even post-Calvinist - white descendants of the Puritans. Harvard started as a Puritan seminary and just evolved into "wokeness" as they dropped the actual religion of Christianity and took up "Progressive Idealism" which is nothing but a secular form of Calvinist Christianity.

    Neo-reaction is very protective of what they call "merchants" meaning capitalists, big business, and the Fortune 500. And they are very concerned with "anti-semitism" seeing anti-semitism as a way to blame Jews for leftism and progressivism which is really promoted by post-Christian liberals.

    Of course, our host Ron Unz has thoroughly debunked the idea that Harvard specifically, and the Ivy League in general, are actually run by post-Calvinists whites and "WASPs."

    Most dissident rightists at least acknowledge that "Conservative Inc." and their funders like the Koch brothers and their organs like the CATO Institute have a "cheap-labor" interest in mass immigration.

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from? There are a lot of Catholic reactionary cranks like E. Michael Jones that blame "WASPs" and "Protestants" for most bad things, but they certainly have no mainstream political or social power and are relegated to the backwaters of the internet like most of us.

    I have my opinions but I'm willing to entertain the argument. What is the driving force behind Fortune 500 "wokeness?" Are the Fortune 500 companies promoting mass immigration and diversity for cheap labor, to stave off lawsuits over "racism and diversity," or perhaps bad publicity?

    Surely no one can argue that the rich, the corporate class, the Fortune 500 CEOs, hedge fund managers, etc., have no political power. The mass media are themselves Fortune 500 companies.

    So what drives corporate "wokeness?" It's an open question.

    Replies: @Charles, @eugyppius, @Anonymous, @dfordoom, @Hibernian, @Monsieur le Baron, @Faraday's Bobcat, @FPD72, @RW

    So what drives corporate “wokeness?” It’s an open question.

    At first it seemed strange to me, that capital should be woke, but in retrospect capital has wanted to be woke for a long time, and in fact it makes a great deal of sense. Wokeness is just the leftist drive for equality and tolerance without the confiscatory/ redistributionist/ socialist economic program. Of course it is kind of unexpected, how amenable and attractive capital finds leftism to be, once it has been denuded of everything it had to say about money and property and the means of production. Leftism was supposed to be the death of capital, but now that capital is allowed to be leftist and keep its money, leftism is everything that capital wants. The reasons seem to be the usual boring ones: Leftists have become natural supporters of immigration and feminism and open borders; and all of these things keep wages low and ensure the unimpeded flow of capital and labor all over the place.

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from?

    Now that capital is woke — now that, like the borg, it has assimilated its opposition, namely various flavors of socialist leftist labor activism — it can turn on its historical enemy, which was once organized labor but has become, broadly, the native overwhelmingly white working class. Thus a high-low alliance has formed, between the new urban managerial cohorts on the one hand (the SWPL-types who manage the large corporations, rather than own them; the professoriate; a great part of the clergy; doctors and lawyers; etc.); and the restive underclass minorities and recent immigrants who hope to appropriate the social and economic position of the native (white) blue collar population. This high-low alliance is manifest, in part, as a pervasive anti-whiteness, as the top and the bottom try to join forces to culturally malign, vilify and marginalize working-class people.

    Thus it has become black slaves who built this nation, whereas in the middle years of the 20th century, you were far more likely to hear that it was (white) factory workers who built American industry. Of course that was also far nearer the truth.

    Becoming more speculative, and drawing a bit on Sam Francis, I think what has happened in the modern world is that the traditional three-tier class system (upper, middle, lower) has been replaced by a five-tier system that looks like this:

    1) Upper classes: same as before, aristocrats and owners of capital
    2) Upper managerial classes: the people who actually run corporations, as opposed to owning them
    3) The traditional middle class
    4) The native working class (mostly white)
    5) The serfs: mainly newly arrived immigrants and other racial minorities

    The big change is that 1) the upper class ceased to directly managed capital and became content with distant ownership, as 2) the upper managerial classes took over the day-to-day operations of corporations and thus a great part of society. Meanwhile decades of mass immigration and an increasingly fake service economy have brought in a load of 5) serfs who provide seasonal agricultural labor, clean your hotel room, etc.

    The upper managerial classes,a cosmopolitan urban elite long opposed to nativist tendencies, political inclinations, etc. among the heretofore 3) middle and 4) working class (increasingly collapsed into each other as wages are driven downwards), have allied themselves with the serfs. Ideally this lower serf class would totally replace the troublesome, reactionary, uncooperative, ignorant, underconsuming, Trump-supporting etc. middle and working classes, which upper management hopes will lead to an economic utopia (really a dystopia) in which everybody just buys their products all the time.

    • Replies: @anon
    @eugyppius

    Well stated...Another factor effecting the class dynamics in America is the tumbling birth rates among whites , thus the white working class population is now very small compared to 50 years ago. Back in 1970 we still employed 10 million factory workers in America , mostly whites.

    One example is manufacturing jobs, which in 1970 employed 1 in 3 white people and today employs one in 16 whites. Millions of American men once worked making steel and cars. Today very few White men are working in traditional blue collar jobs. Many jobs which were once union and paid decent wages are now at minimum wage.

    Back in the 70s the teamsters still controlled most of the shipping, warehouses, truck drivers were mostly teamsters, mostly white guys. in 1980 a Teamster unloading Trucks was earning $95,000 per. Today such jobs pay just $30,000 per year with no benefits at Amazon and many other warehouses across America.

    One reason Walmart was kept out of Pennsylvania and New Jersey until 1995 was due to the Unions. The unions lost political power for several reasons, one being less and less union jobs, which reduced the unions political power. It really is a numbers game. Back in 1980 there were 3 million Teamsters, today they have half the numbers of Teamsters , despite the growth of trucking and shipping, the numbers of Teamster members have fallen significantly.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @eugyppius, @Gordo

    , @Riccy
    @eugyppius

    Nah. It's just plain old Satanism. Worship of raw power, evil, the ugly, and pure joy of destroying what God has wrought. AS IF. This is what you get when Christ is removed from the world, and people get enough wealth to entertain their evil fantasies. No Deplorable is hurting any of the elites who are behind these operations against them. This is war against Christ, and people who THEY perceive as Christian and Good. People who do not believe these elites and their minions can create reality, turn human beings into fungible sexbots and children into main courses and "entertainment".

    Replies: @eugyppius

  49. Spotted Toad is probably overthinking this in the specific, but it does seem to work like that in the general.

    Or maybe you underthink it, or underreact to it, in order to minimize the possibility of being called “reprllent racist filth” again.

    Which comes first, the chicken “general” or the egg ‘specifics’? — all of the ‘specifics’ manifest themselves in the general.

    link

    Our new elite is well on the way to creating a new serf class by devastating the native White working class and importing poor, uneducated Democrat voters. Income inequality highest blue states.

    Or the ‘American Dream’ is to return from a trip abroad, only to find all of the people around you in the queue for ‘US Citizens, Permanent Residents, and Immigrant Visa Holders’ look like an amalgamation of the countries you just visited.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @eah


    the ‘American Dream’ is to return from a trip abroad, only to find all of the people around you in the queue for ‘US Citizens, Permanent Residents, and Immigrant Visa Holders’ look like an amalgamation of the countries you just visited.
     
    The above deserves a post of its own.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    , @Ed
    @eah

    The Wal-Marts in Northern Virginia are like a mini United Nations. I’m talking about Wal-Marts in outer Fairfax county. It’s crazy and I say this as a kid of immigrants. You rarely hear American accents among the adults.

    The last Wal-Mart I was in there was an elderly South Asian woman that couldn’t speak much English. She was nice about it and tried to help me but it was of no use.

    Replies: @Sol

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @eah

    I was going to say Dover, NJ, but his description doesn't quite sound like northern Squatemalistan.

    , @Dissident
    @eah


    Or maybe you underthink it, or underreact to it, in order to minimize the possibility of being called “reprllent racist filth” again.
     
    You really think our host's writing is influenced by a fear of being called names by the likes of JPod?

    Replies: @eah

  50. @Anon
    @Hail

    This video from CBS truly shows the disaster that is her hair, as well as unflattering side shots of her thickness.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xzNyrFhzew

    I'm assuming she isn't doing the extension/wig stuff that black women do. She should. Whatever the hell she has been using on her hair, it has comletely burned it to a Trumpian orange crisp. Her mom is white, yet she is still saddled with that hair. She seems to have gotten her brain from dad: History and AfAm Studies major.

    Also, the "Hannah-Jones": I read recently that in academia if you are a woman who gets married you had better not change your name. This is not (just) because your older publications will not show up in searches. It's because you won't get tenure. There is a left-wing bias, including from women academics, against women who change their name. It's right up their with voting for Trump. Hyphenated names are tolerated, but not ideal. I wonder if Hannah-Jones hyphenated because she is in the New York Bubblesphere? Another thing women do is to keep their maiden name as an academic "stage name" or "pen name."


    "In sociology ... women who change their names are seen as less serious and less dedicated to the field."

    "The guys who are on my best friend's dissertation committee have flat out told her she's not allowed to change her name if she gets married soon (she's engaged)."

    "I recently got married and was faced with this decision, one which many scientists before me have faced. Should I take my spouse’s last name? Am I a bad feminist if I do?"

    "I was told by several of my new professors (including my PI) that I should have kept my maiden name because of feminism, and by changing it I was destroying everything I represented as a woman. I was told changing my name would make me look like I was not dedicated to my career and prevent me from getting a job. I was told I should have kept my maiden name because chances are my husband and I are getting divorced some day and won’t that be awkward."

    "I perceived disappointment when they found out—looks as if to say, “I thought you were one of us.” ... Another aspect that surprised me was the plethora of comments from my male colleagues. Somehow, it was inconceivable that I would change my name; although, interestingly, every colleague’s wife had changed her name."
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Antonius, @Jack D, @Dissident

    The previous owner won the Kentucky Derby so I am told

  51. Anonymous[562] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    ...hard to separate causes from effects, and therefore difficult to establish intent.

    Disagree. This is late stage America, late stage capitalism. The corruption is there for all to see. No more benefit of the doubt should be offered.

    Intent is clear. Clumsy malice is all we get from our elites whether they be business or government.

    The megacorps have bought the congress and written liability protections into our law. They pay little in taxes. Big banks, big pharma, big oil, big ag, big insurance, big tech etc. These people have rigged the game and they are going to cause a communist revolution in this country.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @OscarWildeLoveChild

    The megacorps have bought the congress and written liability protections into our law. They pay little in taxes. Big banks, big pharma, big oil, big ag, big insurance, big tech etc. These people have rigged the game and they are going to cause a communist revolution in this country.

    Does any group have a higher ROI with the US government that the Jews?

    “Aid” to Isreal, full tax exemption of Jewish organizations, etc.

  52. Anonymous[562] • Disclaimer says:
    @BannedHipster
    This is a question on the neo-right-wing. The "neo-reactionary" movement of Curtis Yarvin and Jim Donald says that multinational corporations like Shell, and their CEOs, have no power, are only interested in money, and go "woke" to appease the State that forces them to promote Social Justice Warriorism, LGBT-ism, and racial diversity.

    Instead, the neo-reactionaries claim that "wokeness" is a product of post-Christian - even post-Calvinist - white descendants of the Puritans. Harvard started as a Puritan seminary and just evolved into "wokeness" as they dropped the actual religion of Christianity and took up "Progressive Idealism" which is nothing but a secular form of Calvinist Christianity.

    Neo-reaction is very protective of what they call "merchants" meaning capitalists, big business, and the Fortune 500. And they are very concerned with "anti-semitism" seeing anti-semitism as a way to blame Jews for leftism and progressivism which is really promoted by post-Christian liberals.

    Of course, our host Ron Unz has thoroughly debunked the idea that Harvard specifically, and the Ivy League in general, are actually run by post-Calvinists whites and "WASPs."

    Most dissident rightists at least acknowledge that "Conservative Inc." and their funders like the Koch brothers and their organs like the CATO Institute have a "cheap-labor" interest in mass immigration.

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from? There are a lot of Catholic reactionary cranks like E. Michael Jones that blame "WASPs" and "Protestants" for most bad things, but they certainly have no mainstream political or social power and are relegated to the backwaters of the internet like most of us.

    I have my opinions but I'm willing to entertain the argument. What is the driving force behind Fortune 500 "wokeness?" Are the Fortune 500 companies promoting mass immigration and diversity for cheap labor, to stave off lawsuits over "racism and diversity," or perhaps bad publicity?

    Surely no one can argue that the rich, the corporate class, the Fortune 500 CEOs, hedge fund managers, etc., have no political power. The mass media are themselves Fortune 500 companies.

    So what drives corporate "wokeness?" It's an open question.

    Replies: @Charles, @eugyppius, @Anonymous, @dfordoom, @Hibernian, @Monsieur le Baron, @Faraday's Bobcat, @FPD72, @RW

    I have my opinions but I’m willing to entertain the argument. What is the driving force behind Fortune 500 “wokeness?” Are the Fortune 500 companies promoting mass immigration and diversity for cheap labor, to stave off lawsuits over “racism and diversity,” or perhaps bad publicity?

    It is primarily to avoid attacks in the media. It is secondarily to avoid lawsuits. The media attitudes and the relevant laws are to a significant extent the product of Jewish influence.

  53. @eah
    Spotted Toad is probably overthinking this in the specific, but it does seem to work like that in the general.

    Or maybe you underthink it, or underreact to it, in order to minimize the possibility of being called "reprllent racist filth" again.

    Which comes first, the chicken "general" or the egg 'specifics'? -- all of the 'specifics' manifest themselves in the general.

    link

    Our new elite is well on the way to creating a new serf class by devastating the native White working class and importing poor, uneducated Democrat voters. Income inequality highest blue states.
     
    Or the 'American Dream' is to return from a trip abroad, only to find all of the people around you in the queue for 'US Citizens, Permanent Residents, and Immigrant Visa Holders' look like an amalgamation of the countries you just visited.

    https://twitter.com/ajdhenry/status/1208868894057943041

    Replies: @Hail, @Ed, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Dissident

    the ‘American Dream’ is to return from a trip abroad, only to find all of the people around you in the queue for ‘US Citizens, Permanent Residents, and Immigrant Visa Holders’ look like an amalgamation of the countries you just visited.

    The above deserves a post of its own.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Hail

    1. A nation of immigrants must never be allowed to become a nation of natives.
    2. Everywhere must be made to look like everywhere else.

    I think it's madness, but this has become a religion for a lot of people.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  54. @Hail

    Sponsored by Shell
     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMcakmBUwAE3nLf.png

    It almost looks like a crown.

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @Anon, @PiltdownMan, @South Texas Guy, @MikeatMikedotMike, @El Dato, @TWS, @Anonymous, @Oswald Spengler

    Don’t you watch TV? Queen Victoria was black or something.

  55. @PiltdownMan
    @Reg Cæsar


    And whence came that gold?
     
    China? Australia? Russia?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gold_production

    Replies: @El Dato

  56. @Hail

    Sponsored by Shell
     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMcakmBUwAE3nLf.png

    It almost looks like a crown.

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @Anon, @PiltdownMan, @South Texas Guy, @MikeatMikedotMike, @El Dato, @TWS, @Anonymous, @Oswald Spengler

    I don’t wanna be “conversed to” or “judge” by that lady with the “I’m disappoint” look.

    When “Samantha Power” (does Marvel assign names to politicians?) looked like that from her throne, whole countries full of coloreds spontaneously combusted.

  57. You get the impression that senior corporation executives are vacuous about anything that cannot be expressed in balance sheets and profit-and-loss statements, and hardly notice that their advertising and corporate philanthropy operations are in the hands of people who are regrettably not vacuous (though not in any way learned, wise or benevolent).

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Art Deco

    If that were the case there would be no advertising or corporate philanthropy departments.

  58. Yeah it’s just big Corp paying its usual sinecure to black activists. Checks another box in their annual diversity roundup.

  59. @Hail
    @eah


    the ‘American Dream’ is to return from a trip abroad, only to find all of the people around you in the queue for ‘US Citizens, Permanent Residents, and Immigrant Visa Holders’ look like an amalgamation of the countries you just visited.
     
    The above deserves a post of its own.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    1. A nation of immigrants must never be allowed to become a nation of natives.
    2. Everywhere must be made to look like everywhere else.

    I think it’s madness, but this has become a religion for a lot of people.

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    1. A nation of immigrants must never be allowed to become a nation of natives.
    2. Everywhere must be made to look like everywhere else.

    I think it’s madness, but this has become a religion for a lot of people.
     
    How does one combat it?
  60. @Charles
    @Reg Cæsar

    I will never surrender or betray Before Christ and Anno Domini.

    Replies: @Hunsdon

    Hear him.

  61. @eah
    Spotted Toad is probably overthinking this in the specific, but it does seem to work like that in the general.

    Or maybe you underthink it, or underreact to it, in order to minimize the possibility of being called "reprllent racist filth" again.

    Which comes first, the chicken "general" or the egg 'specifics'? -- all of the 'specifics' manifest themselves in the general.

    link

    Our new elite is well on the way to creating a new serf class by devastating the native White working class and importing poor, uneducated Democrat voters. Income inequality highest blue states.
     
    Or the 'American Dream' is to return from a trip abroad, only to find all of the people around you in the queue for 'US Citizens, Permanent Residents, and Immigrant Visa Holders' look like an amalgamation of the countries you just visited.

    https://twitter.com/ajdhenry/status/1208868894057943041

    Replies: @Hail, @Ed, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Dissident

    The Wal-Marts in Northern Virginia are like a mini United Nations. I’m talking about Wal-Marts in outer Fairfax county. It’s crazy and I say this as a kid of immigrants. You rarely hear American accents among the adults.

    The last Wal-Mart I was in there was an elderly South Asian woman that couldn’t speak much English. She was nice about it and tried to help me but it was of no use.

    • Replies: @Sol
    @Ed

    This is why Virginia has been taken over by the (D)s who want to grab guns.

  62. @BannedHipster
    This is a question on the neo-right-wing. The "neo-reactionary" movement of Curtis Yarvin and Jim Donald says that multinational corporations like Shell, and their CEOs, have no power, are only interested in money, and go "woke" to appease the State that forces them to promote Social Justice Warriorism, LGBT-ism, and racial diversity.

    Instead, the neo-reactionaries claim that "wokeness" is a product of post-Christian - even post-Calvinist - white descendants of the Puritans. Harvard started as a Puritan seminary and just evolved into "wokeness" as they dropped the actual religion of Christianity and took up "Progressive Idealism" which is nothing but a secular form of Calvinist Christianity.

    Neo-reaction is very protective of what they call "merchants" meaning capitalists, big business, and the Fortune 500. And they are very concerned with "anti-semitism" seeing anti-semitism as a way to blame Jews for leftism and progressivism which is really promoted by post-Christian liberals.

    Of course, our host Ron Unz has thoroughly debunked the idea that Harvard specifically, and the Ivy League in general, are actually run by post-Calvinists whites and "WASPs."

    Most dissident rightists at least acknowledge that "Conservative Inc." and their funders like the Koch brothers and their organs like the CATO Institute have a "cheap-labor" interest in mass immigration.

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from? There are a lot of Catholic reactionary cranks like E. Michael Jones that blame "WASPs" and "Protestants" for most bad things, but they certainly have no mainstream political or social power and are relegated to the backwaters of the internet like most of us.

    I have my opinions but I'm willing to entertain the argument. What is the driving force behind Fortune 500 "wokeness?" Are the Fortune 500 companies promoting mass immigration and diversity for cheap labor, to stave off lawsuits over "racism and diversity," or perhaps bad publicity?

    Surely no one can argue that the rich, the corporate class, the Fortune 500 CEOs, hedge fund managers, etc., have no political power. The mass media are themselves Fortune 500 companies.

    So what drives corporate "wokeness?" It's an open question.

    Replies: @Charles, @eugyppius, @Anonymous, @dfordoom, @Hibernian, @Monsieur le Baron, @Faraday's Bobcat, @FPD72, @RW

    What is the driving force behind Fortune 500 “wokeness?”

    Diverting attention away from their wealth.

    They want to persuade you that they are not evil robber baron capitalists. These are kind, sensitive, gentle, caring capitalists. They don’t care about money. They just want to help people. They like kittens. Please stop thinking about how filthy rich they are. Think of all the good they do.

  63. From Alexander Hamilton: Honorary Non-white:

    “A simple model that helps make much about the modern world easier to comprehend is that of a high-low tag team against the middle. As part of a time-tested strategy of divide and rule, the rich tend to push for policies and attitudes that increase identity-politics divisiveness”€”more immigration, more Black Lives Matter rioting, more transgender agitation, and so forth”€”which makes it harder for the nonrich to team up politically to promote their mutual economic interests…

    since standing up for the implicitly white little guy is racist, we now stand up for the big guy. (Who is almost always white. Funny how that works…)”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Kaplan Turqweather


    “A simple model that helps make much about the modern world easier to comprehend is that of a high-low tag team against the middle.
     
    A more accurate model would be that of a Jew/Asian/Black tag team against people of European descent.

    Replies: @Kaplan Turqweather

  64. @Hail

    Sponsored by Shell
     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMcakmBUwAE3nLf.png

    It almost looks like a crown.

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @Anon, @PiltdownMan, @South Texas Guy, @MikeatMikedotMike, @El Dato, @TWS, @Anonymous, @Oswald Spengler

    She looks happy.

  65. @BannedHipster
    This is a question on the neo-right-wing. The "neo-reactionary" movement of Curtis Yarvin and Jim Donald says that multinational corporations like Shell, and their CEOs, have no power, are only interested in money, and go "woke" to appease the State that forces them to promote Social Justice Warriorism, LGBT-ism, and racial diversity.

    Instead, the neo-reactionaries claim that "wokeness" is a product of post-Christian - even post-Calvinist - white descendants of the Puritans. Harvard started as a Puritan seminary and just evolved into "wokeness" as they dropped the actual religion of Christianity and took up "Progressive Idealism" which is nothing but a secular form of Calvinist Christianity.

    Neo-reaction is very protective of what they call "merchants" meaning capitalists, big business, and the Fortune 500. And they are very concerned with "anti-semitism" seeing anti-semitism as a way to blame Jews for leftism and progressivism which is really promoted by post-Christian liberals.

    Of course, our host Ron Unz has thoroughly debunked the idea that Harvard specifically, and the Ivy League in general, are actually run by post-Calvinists whites and "WASPs."

    Most dissident rightists at least acknowledge that "Conservative Inc." and their funders like the Koch brothers and their organs like the CATO Institute have a "cheap-labor" interest in mass immigration.

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from? There are a lot of Catholic reactionary cranks like E. Michael Jones that blame "WASPs" and "Protestants" for most bad things, but they certainly have no mainstream political or social power and are relegated to the backwaters of the internet like most of us.

    I have my opinions but I'm willing to entertain the argument. What is the driving force behind Fortune 500 "wokeness?" Are the Fortune 500 companies promoting mass immigration and diversity for cheap labor, to stave off lawsuits over "racism and diversity," or perhaps bad publicity?

    Surely no one can argue that the rich, the corporate class, the Fortune 500 CEOs, hedge fund managers, etc., have no political power. The mass media are themselves Fortune 500 companies.

    So what drives corporate "wokeness?" It's an open question.

    Replies: @Charles, @eugyppius, @Anonymous, @dfordoom, @Hibernian, @Monsieur le Baron, @Faraday's Bobcat, @FPD72, @RW

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from? There are a lot of Catholic reactionary cranks like E. Michael Jones that blame “WASPs” and “Protestants” for most bad things, but they certainly have no mainstream political or social power and are relegated to the backwaters of the internet like most of us.

    American society is indelibly marked by the many years in which the neo-Calvinists had great power.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Hibernian

    We still do, we've just learned not to draw much attention to ourselves. If you'd like to meet us, the Fine Arts are a decent place:

    https://youtu.be/JH3T6YwwU9s

    Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

  66. @ConfirmationBias
    Or maybe companies just want to brand themselves as young / cool / progressive by association? Last I checked Shell is an oil company. And Oil is bad. But yay, women! Sorry... I meant, Yay, womxn! And Blxcks.

    If they’ve traded their vowels for x’s... that must mean they’re good, no? But but.. oil! I’m so conflicted right now.

    *reaches for the Bxn & Jxrry’s*

    Replies: @Hemid, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Or maybe companies just want to brand themselves as young / cool / progressive by association?

    Young-cool-progress doesn’t exist anywhere outside corporate images of young-cool-progress. Maybe it used to, or maybe we were just younger and dumber.

    Government-sized (and -shaped) companies don’t “associate” with anything. They decide who’s whom.

  67. @Reg Cæsar
    It's Royal Dutch Shell. The Dutch have a relatively short and trivial history with slavery. They feel they can lord it over us, morally.

    But the glazing on their former HQ building in Amsterdam was larded with flecks of gold. And whence came that gold?

    Reparations may be in order.


    https://adamtoren.nl/wp-content/uploads/ADAM_GoldenHour1B.jpg

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @PiltdownMan, @Hibernian, @Jim bob Lassiter, @syonredux

    Their history with slavery was less than that of the British because they lost the Cape Colony to the British.

    • Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    @Hibernian

    The Dutch role with slavery was small but nonetheless important, if not vital, by way of helping to create demand for more labor:


    Emmer estimates that despite their general economic strength, in the seventeenth century at least, the Dutch had only a relatively insignificant share in the Atlantic slave trade—never averaging much more than 5–6 per cent of the total. However, he argues that they did have a significant role in the development of the trade in the first half of the seventeenth century, not only through supplying their short-lived Brazilian colony with slaves, but, perhaps more importantly by stimulating the cultivation of sugar—with the consequent urgent need for slaves—in the French and English Caribbean. Then they turned to Spanish America, transporting around 100,000 slaves to this region by 1730. Nevertheless, the Dutch share of the trade as a whole remained relatively small. In a way the problem is not so much why the Dutch role in the Atlantic slave trade was so limited, but rather why they bothered with it at all, as the surviving evidence suggests that, as far as the Dutch were concerned, the economic returns of the slave trade were notably poor. Certainly, the second West India Company (after 1674) failed to make the trade pay, despite enjoying a monopoly until 1730. Admittedly there were a range of other problems dragging the WIC down, but opening the trade up does not seem to have led to a significant improvement in profitability. Indeed, this may be the reason why the economically ailing province of Zeeland played such a prominent part in this trade—merchants there had fewer alternative options, and there was always the hope of profit.
     
    https://reviews.history.ac.uk/review/545
  68. @Anonymous
    ...hard to separate causes from effects, and therefore difficult to establish intent.

    Disagree. This is late stage America, late stage capitalism. The corruption is there for all to see. No more benefit of the doubt should be offered.

    Intent is clear. Clumsy malice is all we get from our elites whether they be business or government.

    The megacorps have bought the congress and written liability protections into our law. They pay little in taxes. Big banks, big pharma, big oil, big ag, big insurance, big tech etc. These people have rigged the game and they are going to cause a communist revolution in this country.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @OscarWildeLoveChild

    The nation, the people, are being strip-mined and don’t even see it. The infusion of liberal intent, ideas and a planned future are simply them getting in on the game, although they are a primary driver as well.

  69. @Reg Cæsar
    It's Royal Dutch Shell. The Dutch have a relatively short and trivial history with slavery. They feel they can lord it over us, morally.

    But the glazing on their former HQ building in Amsterdam was larded with flecks of gold. And whence came that gold?

    Reparations may be in order.


    https://adamtoren.nl/wp-content/uploads/ADAM_GoldenHour1B.jpg

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @PiltdownMan, @Hibernian, @Jim bob Lassiter, @syonredux

    Short and trivial history with slavery? Not if you count the Dutch-Jewish merchantile bankers and shippers who underwrote the trafficking.

  70. Anonymous[111] • Disclaimer says:

    The Wal-Marts in Northern Virginia are like a mini United Nations. I’m talking about Wal-Marts in outer Fairfax county. It’s crazy and I say this as a kid of immigrants. You rarely hear American accents among the adults.

    This is obviously not the Virginia Walmart where Staatssicherheitsdienst agent Peter Strzok complained about smelly Trump supporters to his horse-faced paramour.

    I grew up in a ‘Leave It To Beaver’ world in NoVa in the 60’s. I had very middle-class neighbors with big families. The neighborhood kids’ fathers worked at IBM or were FBI agents or NASA scientists. They had 4 to 5 kids and drove wood-paneled Ford station wagons and were regulars at church and neighborhood picnics. We kids used to play Wiffle Ball in the street and touch football in the backyards or local field. We’d visit each other’s houses and the mothers would fix us sandwiches and the fathers would complain if we left a room without turning off the light. I miss that world. Scary thing is it doesn’t seem that long ago— relative to how fast each year goes by.

    • Agree: houston 1992, Sol
  71. @RichardTaylor
    @songbird


    But in elementary school, my science teacher would often say stuff like, “water wants to osmose.” And if it tends to cross the membrane, then I think there is some merit in saying this.
     
    I think it's fair to say institutions tend to put their own interests ahead of everything else over time. I'm all for free markets, but yes, over time companies "want" to turn every country into a profit center under administrative control that benefits them.

    Maybe that's why citizens are supposed to set boundaries?

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    I’m all for free markets, but yes, over time companies “want” to turn every country into a profit center under administrative control that benefits them.

    Maybe that’s why citizens are supposed to set boundaries?

    I tend to go as far as to claim that we need politics in such situations.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Dieter Kief


    I tend to go as far as to claim that we need politics in such situations.
     
    Hey buddy, you're about to lose your libertarian membership card! :)
  72. @Anonymous
    Well, I agree not a single black should have been brought to the New Land.

    Therefore, the 2020 project must be repatriation. Save blacks from incorrigibly 'racist' US and send them to wonderful Africa.

    If blacks hadn't been brought to the US, things would have been better in the long run for whites. For blacks who would have remained in Africa, who cares?

    One thing for sure, when whites and blacks met, whites didn't sell whites to non-whites, but blacks were more than willing to sell blacks to non-blacks.

    In a way, one might say it was good for blacks to go from a people who sell their own race to a race that doesn't sell their own race. The latter race has SOME sense of conscience, and this conscience could even decide to treat blacks like whites. But never mind all that. Blacks are holy and exist, like Jews and homos, to be worshiped. Ideology is dead, 'Idology' is what counts. Instead of same ideas/rules for everyone, some groups are more equal than others.

    Btw, let's get 1881 going. First Zionist invasion of Palestine.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Hans, @Anonymous

    And with the overwhelming Jewish presence in the slave trade, there’ll be plenty of money forthcoming for reparations. Unless, we’ve already paid more than enough.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Hans


    overwhelming Jewish presence in the slave trade,
     
    Overwhelming? You are not lying enough Hans. Go for the Big Lie. The slave trade was conducted ENTIRELY by Jews. All the slave ships were financed by Jewish capital. The captains were all Jewish. When the slaves landed, they were sold to Jewish plantation owners. The entire Confederate leadership consisted only of Jews - Robert E. Levich, Stonewall Jackovitch, etc. Not a single Christian had anything to do with slavery. Slavery is immoral and no Christian would have ever bought or sold a slave, ever.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Hans

    , @njguy73
    @Hans

    What if people stopped working for money?

    What if people uncoupled themselves from the currency-based economy?

    What if people simply got homesteads, grew their own food, reduced their needs to bare necessities, and stopped running themselves ragged to make money?

    Who would compensate whom?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Sol

  73. @ConfirmationBias
    Or maybe companies just want to brand themselves as young / cool / progressive by association? Last I checked Shell is an oil company. And Oil is bad. But yay, women! Sorry... I meant, Yay, womxn! And Blxcks.

    If they’ve traded their vowels for x’s... that must mean they’re good, no? But but.. oil! I’m so conflicted right now.

    *reaches for the Bxn & Jxrry’s*

    Replies: @Hemid, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Wrong. This isn’t just some women’s forum; it’s a racial injustice whitey-is-evil fest. This isn’t about being “cool.” It’s about protecting Shell from the Eye of Soros turning its way and further destroying the fabric of a society so corporations can do as they please.

    Also, who exactly has pushed this whites-are-evil narrative for the past 50 years, anyway? You might find some clues on that Ben and Jerry’s ice cream that you’re eating.

    • Agree: Herbert West
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Right, Royal Dutch Shell is a Dutch corporation whose Rockefeller figure was a Nazi. The Netherlands have very few Jews because of the recent unpleasant events. But if Shell is woke, it's still the Joos fault - everything is the Joos fault when you dig down deep enough. Look for the secret messages hidden on your ice cream carton.

    I don't know whether it's Christmas or what, but the Jew mania sees to be running particularly strong this week. Y'all are barking up the wrong tree. Maybe the Joos lit the match (I don't think so) but the house is burning now quite well on its own. Figuring out who started the fire is not helpful at this point. My son is a volunteer firefighter. Sometimes I ask him how a particular fire got started - he just shrugs his shoulders. His job is to rescue the inhabitants and put out the fire. Once job #1 is done, there is plenty of time for the fire marshal to come back and sift thru the fire scene to figure out how it started, but while the house is on fire, that's of zero importance. It's just a distraction from the real mission. If the fire marshal tried to start bugging the firefighters about the cause of the fire while the building was on fire, they'd kick him off the fire scene because he would be interfering with their jobs. First you put out the fire and then there will be plenty of time for finger pointing later - usually there is plenty of blame to go around in a tragedy and it's not just one person or thing anyway. Finding one person to be the scapegoat is tempting but it's wrong because then you are letting off all of the others who contributed.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Citizen of a Silly Country

  74. @Jack Henson
    The fact that current America's train ride has an unpleasant terminus doesn't mean he's overthinking it because it makes you antsy, Mr. Triple Bankshot Theory about why white liberals want bad whites disarmed.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Steve tends to give the other side the benefit of the doubt because he grew in a time when what is happening now would seem impossible so it remains so in his mind. There’s an amazing amount of brain power exerted around here to avoid having to mentally accept a simple reality:

    They hate you and want you and your family turned into helots.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    You give our elites too much credit: they are far too mentally limited for this. There is no organized, coherent plan beyond their present petty whims.

    "Apres moi, le deluge" is what is implicitly at work here.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Desiderius, @Jack Henson, @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @Jack Henson
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    It's definitely a variant of grill nationalism where you downplay the fatal seriousness of the other side as a cope strategy. They're telling you that they want you dead and you're just insisting you want to grill and that should be the end of it, lol.

    There's 0 endgame around here because the ugly reality is too much for The Biggest Internet Brains seem to expect A Miracle Happens and we all go back to living in 1960s SoCal.

    A lot of dissidents insisting they're not. Strange times.

    , @Corvinus
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    "They hate you and want you and your family turned into helots."

    It takes an amazing amount of brain power exerted around here to manufacture and maintain this falsehood.

  75. The 1619 project is another step in bring back slavery. They want to condition us to believe slavery is acceptable. That is also why we are inviting the rest of the world in. It is cheaper to enslave them if they are close by. Right now both Nancy Polosi and AOL are taking about the next steps.

  76. @Art Deco
    You get the impression that senior corporation executives are vacuous about anything that cannot be expressed in balance sheets and profit-and-loss statements, and hardly notice that their advertising and corporate philanthropy operations are in the hands of people who are regrettably not vacuous (though not in any way learned, wise or benevolent).

    Replies: @Desiderius

    If that were the case there would be no advertising or corporate philanthropy departments.

  77. I keep confusing Nikole Hannah Jones with Anna Nicole Smith.

    The former is half white, a fact she coyly alludes to on her website. She refers to “foreign” ancestry. From Nigeria?

    In NHJ’s twitter profile, she describes herself as “smart and thuggish.”

    It’s a safe bet than anyone who describes herself as smart isn’t, but thuggish? She might be right on that one.

  78. @Anon
    @Hail

    This video from CBS truly shows the disaster that is her hair, as well as unflattering side shots of her thickness.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xzNyrFhzew

    I'm assuming she isn't doing the extension/wig stuff that black women do. She should. Whatever the hell she has been using on her hair, it has comletely burned it to a Trumpian orange crisp. Her mom is white, yet she is still saddled with that hair. She seems to have gotten her brain from dad: History and AfAm Studies major.

    Also, the "Hannah-Jones": I read recently that in academia if you are a woman who gets married you had better not change your name. This is not (just) because your older publications will not show up in searches. It's because you won't get tenure. There is a left-wing bias, including from women academics, against women who change their name. It's right up their with voting for Trump. Hyphenated names are tolerated, but not ideal. I wonder if Hannah-Jones hyphenated because she is in the New York Bubblesphere? Another thing women do is to keep their maiden name as an academic "stage name" or "pen name."


    "In sociology ... women who change their names are seen as less serious and less dedicated to the field."

    "The guys who are on my best friend's dissertation committee have flat out told her she's not allowed to change her name if she gets married soon (she's engaged)."

    "I recently got married and was faced with this decision, one which many scientists before me have faced. Should I take my spouse’s last name? Am I a bad feminist if I do?"

    "I was told by several of my new professors (including my PI) that I should have kept my maiden name because of feminism, and by changing it I was destroying everything I represented as a woman. I was told changing my name would make me look like I was not dedicated to my career and prevent me from getting a job. I was told I should have kept my maiden name because chances are my husband and I are getting divorced some day and won’t that be awkward."

    "I perceived disappointment when they found out—looks as if to say, “I thought you were one of us.” ... Another aspect that surprised me was the plethora of comments from my male colleagues. Somehow, it was inconceivable that I would change my name; although, interestingly, every colleague’s wife had changed her name."
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Antonius, @Jack D, @Dissident

    This cuts both ways. My SIL is an academic and she married back in the day when it was normal to change your name. Then later she got divorced but she had to keep her ex-husband’s last name because all of her publications were under that name. In general, you don’t want to be changing your name in academia because it will mess up your publication record. I’m sure there’s an exception for trannies.

    • LOL: Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Jack D


    you don’t want to be changing your name in academia because it will mess up your publication record
     
    The web pages that I read when researching this pointed out that when you apply for tenure and the like you supply a list of your publications in your CV. Also, there is apparently a sort of unique author number these days, a code that you are assigned, that remains constant throughout name changes, inconsistent use of initials, and occasional use of nicknames. It's called the ORCID (open researcher and contributor ID).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORCID

    This is like an ISBN or UPC for people, "to resolve the author name ambiguity problem in scholarly communication." This is still taking off and is not universally used, but it should solve the problem in the future. Online research search engines could automatically throw up suggestions, like "Show also results for ...?" or "May be the same researcher as ..., display these results also?"

    I really got the feeling that the main problem was, believe it or not, feminism and expected behaviors of progressive people. Women academics hate other women who get married and change their names (and have babies and who aren't lesbians or trans). Men academics only want their wives to change their names, not their colleagues.

  79. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Btw, let’s get 1881 going. First Zionist invasion of Palestine.
     
    Zionists have been invading Palestine since the twelfth century BC.

    And, yes, I said "BC", not the faggoty "BCE" you keep hearing nowadays. And "CE"-- "Cucks' Era"?

    Replies: @Charles, @Jack D, @njguy73

    They all have to go back (to Ur Kasdim).

  80. anon[357] • Disclaimer says:
    @eugyppius
    @BannedHipster


    So what drives corporate “wokeness?” It’s an open question.

     

    At first it seemed strange to me, that capital should be woke, but in retrospect capital has wanted to be woke for a long time, and in fact it makes a great deal of sense. Wokeness is just the leftist drive for equality and tolerance without the confiscatory/ redistributionist/ socialist economic program. Of course it is kind of unexpected, how amenable and attractive capital finds leftism to be, once it has been denuded of everything it had to say about money and property and the means of production. Leftism was supposed to be the death of capital, but now that capital is allowed to be leftist and keep its money, leftism is everything that capital wants. The reasons seem to be the usual boring ones: Leftists have become natural supporters of immigration and feminism and open borders; and all of these things keep wages low and ensure the unimpeded flow of capital and labor all over the place.

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from?
     
    Now that capital is woke -- now that, like the borg, it has assimilated its opposition, namely various flavors of socialist leftist labor activism -- it can turn on its historical enemy, which was once organized labor but has become, broadly, the native overwhelmingly white working class. Thus a high-low alliance has formed, between the new urban managerial cohorts on the one hand (the SWPL-types who manage the large corporations, rather than own them; the professoriate; a great part of the clergy; doctors and lawyers; etc.); and the restive underclass minorities and recent immigrants who hope to appropriate the social and economic position of the native (white) blue collar population. This high-low alliance is manifest, in part, as a pervasive anti-whiteness, as the top and the bottom try to join forces to culturally malign, vilify and marginalize working-class people.

    Thus it has become black slaves who built this nation, whereas in the middle years of the 20th century, you were far more likely to hear that it was (white) factory workers who built American industry. Of course that was also far nearer the truth.

    Becoming more speculative, and drawing a bit on Sam Francis, I think what has happened in the modern world is that the traditional three-tier class system (upper, middle, lower) has been replaced by a five-tier system that looks like this:

    1) Upper classes: same as before, aristocrats and owners of capital
    2) Upper managerial classes: the people who actually run corporations, as opposed to owning them
    3) The traditional middle class
    4) The native working class (mostly white)
    5) The serfs: mainly newly arrived immigrants and other racial minorities

    The big change is that 1) the upper class ceased to directly managed capital and became content with distant ownership, as 2) the upper managerial classes took over the day-to-day operations of corporations and thus a great part of society. Meanwhile decades of mass immigration and an increasingly fake service economy have brought in a load of 5) serfs who provide seasonal agricultural labor, clean your hotel room, etc.

    The upper managerial classes,a cosmopolitan urban elite long opposed to nativist tendencies, political inclinations, etc. among the heretofore 3) middle and 4) working class (increasingly collapsed into each other as wages are driven downwards), have allied themselves with the serfs. Ideally this lower serf class would totally replace the troublesome, reactionary, uncooperative, ignorant, underconsuming, Trump-supporting etc. middle and working classes, which upper management hopes will lead to an economic utopia (really a dystopia) in which everybody just buys their products all the time.

    Replies: @anon, @Riccy

    Well stated…Another factor effecting the class dynamics in America is the tumbling birth rates among whites , thus the white working class population is now very small compared to 50 years ago. Back in 1970 we still employed 10 million factory workers in America , mostly whites.

    One example is manufacturing jobs, which in 1970 employed 1 in 3 white people and today employs one in 16 whites. Millions of American men once worked making steel and cars. Today very few White men are working in traditional blue collar jobs. Many jobs which were once union and paid decent wages are now at minimum wage.

    Back in the 70s the teamsters still controlled most of the shipping, warehouses, truck drivers were mostly teamsters, mostly white guys. in 1980 a Teamster unloading Trucks was earning $95,000 per. Today such jobs pay just $30,000 per year with no benefits at Amazon and many other warehouses across America.

    One reason Walmart was kept out of Pennsylvania and New Jersey until 1995 was due to the Unions. The unions lost political power for several reasons, one being less and less union jobs, which reduced the unions political power. It really is a numbers game. Back in 1980 there were 3 million Teamsters, today they have half the numbers of Teamsters , despite the growth of trucking and shipping, the numbers of Teamster members have fallen significantly.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon

    Because BLET joined Teamsters, they have more railroaders than truckers now. WM pays truckers over Teamster wages, by the way. Outside the executive suite the only WalMartians that are very well paid are the truck drivers.

    And the pillcops, of course. Pharmacist’s board is a union no different than teamsters, is it?

    , @eugyppius
    @anon

    I agree very hard. The new managers are hoping that the white working classes who oppose them can be outbred by fertile immigrants from the global south. White workers are a declining share of the population and their reduced political pull has changed American politics forever, and very much for the worse.


    One reason Walmart was kept out of Pennsylvania and New Jersey until 1995 was due to the Unions.

     

    So often the vilest, most absurd aspects of our world turn out to be the things against which our forefathers fortified all the gates. But the next generation derided our forefathers as racists and reactionaries and losers. And they unlocked a few doors, and now if we survive we'll be treated to a long-term lesson about the manifold and multifarious ways that these guys were right.
    , @Gordo
    @anon


    Well stated…Another factor effecting the class dynamics in America is the tumbling birth rates among whites ,
     
    Whites don't breed well in captivity.
  81. Anonymous[671] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Well, I agree not a single black should have been brought to the New Land.

    Therefore, the 2020 project must be repatriation. Save blacks from incorrigibly 'racist' US and send them to wonderful Africa.

    If blacks hadn't been brought to the US, things would have been better in the long run for whites. For blacks who would have remained in Africa, who cares?

    One thing for sure, when whites and blacks met, whites didn't sell whites to non-whites, but blacks were more than willing to sell blacks to non-blacks.

    In a way, one might say it was good for blacks to go from a people who sell their own race to a race that doesn't sell their own race. The latter race has SOME sense of conscience, and this conscience could even decide to treat blacks like whites. But never mind all that. Blacks are holy and exist, like Jews and homos, to be worshiped. Ideology is dead, 'Idology' is what counts. Instead of same ideas/rules for everyone, some groups are more equal than others.

    Btw, let's get 1881 going. First Zionist invasion of Palestine.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Hans, @Anonymous

    Btw, let’s get 1881 going. First Zionist invasion of Palestine.

    This. Did any event (save Lincoln’s war) have a more significant impact on the Twentieth Century and beyond? What would the outcome of World War I have been without Zionism? What would Hitler’s impression of Jews have been without Zionism? What would Jewish support for Hitler’s policies (segregation, transfer), and thus for Hitler himself, have been absent Zionism?

  82. Maybe Shell could do a follow-up series of lectures on its role (in collusion with London) in the Nigerian Civil War and the starvation of 2 million Biafrans.

  83. @Reg Cæsar
    It's Royal Dutch Shell. The Dutch have a relatively short and trivial history with slavery. They feel they can lord it over us, morally.

    But the glazing on their former HQ building in Amsterdam was larded with flecks of gold. And whence came that gold?

    Reparations may be in order.


    https://adamtoren.nl/wp-content/uploads/ADAM_GoldenHour1B.jpg

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @PiltdownMan, @Hibernian, @Jim bob Lassiter, @syonredux

    It’s Royal Dutch Shell. The Dutch have a relatively short and trivial history with slavery.

    Dunno…

    Between 1596 and 1829, the Dutch transported about half a million Africans across the Atlantic. Large numbers were taken to the small islands of Curaçao and St. Eustatius, in the Caribbean. Most of the Africans landed there, however, were subsequently trans-shipped to Spanish colonies. The two islands were thus staging posts for the re-sale and dispatch of Africans who survived the Middle Passage to other American slave colonies.

    http://slaveryandremembrance.org/articles/article/?id=A0145

    The Dutch sugar plantations in Suriname were quite brutal, even by the standards of “sugar slavery”…

    • Replies: @S
    @syonredux


    Between 1596 and 1829, the Dutch transported about half a million Africans across the Atlantic.
     
    Indeed, it was a Dutch ship which unloaded it's unholy cargo of twenty or so slaves at Jamestown in 1619.

    According to Henry Carey, a chief economic adviser of Lincoln, the cheap labor/mass immigration system (already quite evident then in 1853 when he wrote this) was simply 'the slave trade of the last century on a grander scale', ie chattel slavery and it's trade was monetized (stream lined financially, the core essence of it remaining) and not abolished. Out of the frying pan and into the fire as it were.

    Appropriately enough, it was in 1869, some 250 years after chattel slaves were first introduced at Jamestown by a Dutch ship, that the Dutch 'labor contractor' Cornelius Koopmanschap was making a big splash with his declared intention to import one hundred thousand Chinese wage slaves (ie so called 'cheap laborer'/'coolies') directly into the United States.

    Koopmanschap, whose name in Dutch means 'commerce' or 'business', handled the North American distribution of the Chinese wage slaves as his business. He had been providing his services to the western railroad barons such as Stanford in California, but wished with this effort to branch out and expand his 'market' to the Southern plantation owners, who were said to be quite amiable to his proposal.

    Koopmanschap had a Hong Kong based business partner, Maurice Bosman, who handled the Asian procurement of the Chinese wage slaves. Bosman was at minimum half Jewish, if not wholly Jewish. [Bosman has an interesting history in Hong Kong if a person wishes to check further.]

    KOOPMANSCHAP; Who He Is, What He has Done, and What He Proposes to do, The Approaching Inundation of Chinese Coolies

    The New York Times (July 21, 1869) – Page 2

    It is only a few weeks ago that the name of KOOPMANSCHAP was unknown to fame. Suddenly it has emerged from the obscurity with which the appellations of ordinary mortals are surrounded and occupies a lofty nich within the nation’s fame. Everybody is asking, Who is KOOPMANSCHAP?
     
    Anyhow, for various reasons, Koopmanscap and Bosman's 1869 Chinese plans fell through with the plantation owners.

    As the Pall Mall Gazette of London in 1874 specifically identified, 'race' was the primary impediment that was getting in the way of such endeavors. At the time people in the United States, and Australia, weren't taking too kindly to being genocided via being 'mixed' out of existance due to some not wanting to pay the prevailing real time local costs of labor (ie railroad barons/plantation owners,etc) and others who profited by satiating this same greed (ie Koopmanschap/Bosman etc).

    So, yes, Dutch Shell sponsoring the 1619 project, and the ad featuring the 'mixed' racial results due to chattel and or wage slavery, which people are conditioned to now 'embrace' and 'celebrate' (or else!) rather than as in the past flee from, is entirely fitting.


    https://www.nytimes.com/1869/07/21/archives/koopmanschap-who-he-is-what-he-has-done-and-what-he-proposes-to-do.html

    Replies: @Anonymous

  84. @Hans
    @Anonymous

    And with the overwhelming Jewish presence in the slave trade, there'll be plenty of money forthcoming for reparations. Unless, we've already paid more than enough.

    Replies: @Jack D, @njguy73

    overwhelming Jewish presence in the slave trade,

    Overwhelming? You are not lying enough Hans. Go for the Big Lie. The slave trade was conducted ENTIRELY by Jews. All the slave ships were financed by Jewish capital. The captains were all Jewish. When the slaves landed, they were sold to Jewish plantation owners. The entire Confederate leadership consisted only of Jews – Robert E. Levich, Stonewall Jackovitch, etc. Not a single Christian had anything to do with slavery. Slavery is immoral and no Christian would have ever bought or sold a slave, ever.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Jack D

    I can look ahead 200 years on some mind meld forum where somebody poses a thought about how Jews were overwhelmingly part of the the finance and media sectors of the crumbling USA, and some gaslighting entity named Jack Jetson will be projecting his absolutist snark upon the former.

    2000 years ago it was the Romans who killed Jesus you see, not the Jews. Somethings never change.

    Replies: @Jack Henson

    , @Hans
    @Jack D

    Sorry, Jack. It was the best I could manage. I need to practice. I know I'll get better. Jews already get waaaaaaay to much credit for slaving. It's not stop. That's why I thought I could pull it off. My bad.

  85. @Hans
    @Anonymous

    And with the overwhelming Jewish presence in the slave trade, there'll be plenty of money forthcoming for reparations. Unless, we've already paid more than enough.

    Replies: @Jack D, @njguy73

    What if people stopped working for money?

    What if people uncoupled themselves from the currency-based economy?

    What if people simply got homesteads, grew their own food, reduced their needs to bare necessities, and stopped running themselves ragged to make money?

    Who would compensate whom?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @njguy73

    The problem is that subsistence farming is a hell of a lot of work. The Amish are probably the best in the world at it and they work from sun-up to sundown six days a week.

    , @Sol
    @njguy73

    A good suggestion.

  86. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Btw, let’s get 1881 going. First Zionist invasion of Palestine.
     
    Zionists have been invading Palestine since the twelfth century BC.

    And, yes, I said "BC", not the faggoty "BCE" you keep hearing nowadays. And "CE"-- "Cucks' Era"?

    Replies: @Charles, @Jack D, @njguy73

    I use BCE and CE. But not because I’m anti-religion or a cuck. It’s because I’m not Christian.

    I would never tell a Christian not to use BC and AD. To deny them the use of those would be to deny them their religious freedom.

    • Agree: Dissident
    • Replies: @a guy named me
    @njguy73

    Right so you don't use Thursday, Wednesday, Friday because of the same rigorous standard.
    And what marks the beginning of the "Common Era" ?

    Replies: @njguy73

  87. Anon[388] • Disclaimer says:

    The slave trade was conducted ENTIRELY by Jews. All the slave ships were financed by Jewish capital. The captains were all Jewish. When the slaves landed, they were sold to Jewish plantation owners. The entire Confederate leadership consisted only of Jews – Robert E. Levich, Stonewall Jackovitch, etc. Not a single Christian had anything to do with slavery. Slavery is immoral and no Christian would have ever bought or sold a slave, ever.

    Exactly.

  88. OT:

    Hippie guru Ram Dass deceaserized at 88.

    • Replies: @peterike
    @Anonymous


    Hippie guru Ram Dass deceaserized at 88.
     
    Ram Dass was born Richard Alpert. As per wiki, "Alpert was born to a Jewish family in Newton, Massachusetts."

    Of course he was.
  89. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @ConfirmationBias

    Wrong. This isn't just some women's forum; it's a racial injustice whitey-is-evil fest. This isn't about being "cool." It's about protecting Shell from the Eye of Soros turning its way and further destroying the fabric of a society so corporations can do as they please.

    Also, who exactly has pushed this whites-are-evil narrative for the past 50 years, anyway? You might find some clues on that Ben and Jerry's ice cream that you're eating.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Right, Royal Dutch Shell is a Dutch corporation whose Rockefeller figure was a Nazi. The Netherlands have very few Jews because of the recent unpleasant events. But if Shell is woke, it’s still the Joos fault – everything is the Joos fault when you dig down deep enough. Look for the secret messages hidden on your ice cream carton.

    I don’t know whether it’s Christmas or what, but the Jew mania sees to be running particularly strong this week. Y’all are barking up the wrong tree. Maybe the Joos lit the match (I don’t think so) but the house is burning now quite well on its own. Figuring out who started the fire is not helpful at this point. My son is a volunteer firefighter. Sometimes I ask him how a particular fire got started – he just shrugs his shoulders. His job is to rescue the inhabitants and put out the fire. Once job #1 is done, there is plenty of time for the fire marshal to come back and sift thru the fire scene to figure out how it started, but while the house is on fire, that’s of zero importance. It’s just a distraction from the real mission. If the fire marshal tried to start bugging the firefighters about the cause of the fire while the building was on fire, they’d kick him off the fire scene because he would be interfering with their jobs. First you put out the fire and then there will be plenty of time for finger pointing later – usually there is plenty of blame to go around in a tragedy and it’s not just one person or thing anyway. Finding one person to be the scapegoat is tempting but it’s wrong because then you are letting off all of the others who contributed.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Jack D

    • Oy Vey: BenKenobi

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D

    Jack. You're a smart guy, but your zealotry makes your replies so very repetitive.

    Look, I've always said that Jews and gentile whites share equally in what has happened. Con men always say that the mark has to want to believe the con. The old lady wants to believe that the young man finds her attractive.

    For a variety of reasons (most coming back to hubris, btw), gentile whites were ripe for the con of a multi-everything society. Jewish leaders (unrestrained by their community, i.e. people like you Jack) used their truly impressive skills - ability to make money, organization, communications, political maneuvering, etc. - to execute the con, believing (probably correctly) that such a society was Good for the Jews or, at least, Better for the Jews.

    Were Jews directly aided in the con by many gentile whites? Absolutely. But you can always find traitorous, disaffected locals to use.

    Was there some Jewish conspiracy? Of course not. Let's not be childish. It was simply many individuals and groups with similar ideas working independently for a similar goal.

    Again, gentile whites are more to blame than Jews. I mean, it's a fairly obvious con. Japan, China, South Korea, hopefully Eastern Europe, didn't fall for it. The fact that many countries in Western Europe with extremely small Jewish populations fell for the con shows culpability of gentile whites. Sure, Jews did a masterful job of pushing the narrative on TV shows, the news and movies, but gentile whites didn't have to buy into such trite.

    I don't know why you are so reluctant to admit the role of Jews in where we are and, to continue your analogy, why buildings keep catching fire. It makes you seem a zealot. I've admitted that gentile whites bare much of the blame for buying into the con. The least that you can do is acknowledging Jews' decisive role in coming up and executing the con.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Corvinus

  90. So now I have to boycott Shell, and Gillette (Schick razors aren’t bad, though none give as many decent shaves as they did 20 years ago) and what else?

  91. @Desiderius
    No. He's not.

    This is exactly what is happening, and why.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    No. He’s not.

    This is exactly what is happening, and why.

    Nope. Corporations aren’t the prime movers. Racial groups seeking to conquer Whites are, and they have created incentives through media for corporations to do their bidding.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Anonymous


    Racial groups seeking to conquer Whites are, and they have created incentives through media for corporations to do their bidding.
     
    Corporate elites despise the nation-state. They are all too happy to use non-White grievances to guilt-trip Whites into surrendering to globalization.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anonymous

  92. @Jack D
    @Hans


    overwhelming Jewish presence in the slave trade,
     
    Overwhelming? You are not lying enough Hans. Go for the Big Lie. The slave trade was conducted ENTIRELY by Jews. All the slave ships were financed by Jewish capital. The captains were all Jewish. When the slaves landed, they were sold to Jewish plantation owners. The entire Confederate leadership consisted only of Jews - Robert E. Levich, Stonewall Jackovitch, etc. Not a single Christian had anything to do with slavery. Slavery is immoral and no Christian would have ever bought or sold a slave, ever.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Hans

    I can look ahead 200 years on some mind meld forum where somebody poses a thought about how Jews were overwhelmingly part of the the finance and media sectors of the crumbling USA, and some gaslighting entity named Jack Jetson will be projecting his absolutist snark upon the former.

    2000 years ago it was the Romans who killed Jesus you see, not the Jews. Somethings never change.

    • Replies: @Jack Henson
    @MikeatMikedotMike

    The inability for jews to self reflect and run to snark as a defensive mechanism never ceases to amaze.

  93. @Hail

    Sponsored by Shell
     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMcakmBUwAE3nLf.png

    It almost looks like a crown.

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @Anon, @PiltdownMan, @South Texas Guy, @MikeatMikedotMike, @El Dato, @TWS, @Anonymous, @Oswald Spengler

    It almost looks like a crown.

    When I first read this, I thought it said, “It almost looks like a clown,” and I agreed. Then I noticed it actually said crown.

  94. @Jack D
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Right, Royal Dutch Shell is a Dutch corporation whose Rockefeller figure was a Nazi. The Netherlands have very few Jews because of the recent unpleasant events. But if Shell is woke, it's still the Joos fault - everything is the Joos fault when you dig down deep enough. Look for the secret messages hidden on your ice cream carton.

    I don't know whether it's Christmas or what, but the Jew mania sees to be running particularly strong this week. Y'all are barking up the wrong tree. Maybe the Joos lit the match (I don't think so) but the house is burning now quite well on its own. Figuring out who started the fire is not helpful at this point. My son is a volunteer firefighter. Sometimes I ask him how a particular fire got started - he just shrugs his shoulders. His job is to rescue the inhabitants and put out the fire. Once job #1 is done, there is plenty of time for the fire marshal to come back and sift thru the fire scene to figure out how it started, but while the house is on fire, that's of zero importance. It's just a distraction from the real mission. If the fire marshal tried to start bugging the firefighters about the cause of the fire while the building was on fire, they'd kick him off the fire scene because he would be interfering with their jobs. First you put out the fire and then there will be plenty of time for finger pointing later - usually there is plenty of blame to go around in a tragedy and it's not just one person or thing anyway. Finding one person to be the scapegoat is tempting but it's wrong because then you are letting off all of the others who contributed.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    • Oy Vey: BenKenobi

  95. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack Henson

    Steve tends to give the other side the benefit of the doubt because he grew in a time when what is happening now would seem impossible so it remains so in his mind. There's an amazing amount of brain power exerted around here to avoid having to mentally accept a simple reality:

    They hate you and want you and your family turned into helots.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Jack Henson, @Corvinus

    You give our elites too much credit: they are far too mentally limited for this. There is no organized, coherent plan beyond their present petty whims.

    “Apres moi, le deluge” is what is implicitly at work here.

    • Agree: El Dato
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @nebulafox

    I tend to think it's a little of both: they hate us and want us to become helots, and they're not thinking things through too well.

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @nebulafox

    Various individuals and groups with similar beliefs working independently for similar goals. No organized plan, just hatred of you and me.

    , @Desiderius
    @nebulafox

    It's a little bit of both.

    https://americanmind.org/features/the-death-of-virtue-and-the-rise-of-expertise/losing-the-souls/

    I've done the late Ming comparison before; her article is along the same lines.

    Treasure Fleet/Apollo -> abdication of the emperor/abdication of our natural leadership class (as described in essay) -> takeover by malignant eunuchs/takeover by malignant eunuchs

    , @Jack Henson
    @nebulafox

    It can be both.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @nebulafox

    I'll be the umpteenth person to say, "a little from column A, a little from column B."

    Overall, the group of elites is like a school of fish. They will tend to swim in the same direction because it helps them achieve their goals and deviation from the overall direction is harmful to the individual fish.

    However, there are definitely individual fish within the school that have their own highly detailed and organized plans. George Soros is the example that immediately springs to mind.

  96. Project 1619 now morphing into Project TCDD

  97. @Jack D
    @Hans


    overwhelming Jewish presence in the slave trade,
     
    Overwhelming? You are not lying enough Hans. Go for the Big Lie. The slave trade was conducted ENTIRELY by Jews. All the slave ships were financed by Jewish capital. The captains were all Jewish. When the slaves landed, they were sold to Jewish plantation owners. The entire Confederate leadership consisted only of Jews - Robert E. Levich, Stonewall Jackovitch, etc. Not a single Christian had anything to do with slavery. Slavery is immoral and no Christian would have ever bought or sold a slave, ever.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Hans

    Sorry, Jack. It was the best I could manage. I need to practice. I know I’ll get better. Jews already get waaaaaaay to much credit for slaving. It’s not stop. That’s why I thought I could pull it off. My bad.

  98. @Anonymous


    Multinational corporations pay the New York Times to run the 1619 Project, arguing that country’s birth is irredeemably contaminated by slavery because an America that views its existence as a nation as a shameful sin is more likely to give it away to multi-national corporations.
     
    Spotted Toad is probably overthinking this in the specific, but it does seem to work like that in the general.
     
    He is only off base here in so far as he has misidentified the master perpetrators. They are not “multi-national corporations.”

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    He is only off base here in so far as he has misidentified the master perpetrators. They are not “multi-national corporations.”

    A better term would be “supra-national corporations”. “Multi-national” implies that they might have loyalty to more than one nation, when in fact they have loyalty to none.

  99. @nebulafox
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    You give our elites too much credit: they are far too mentally limited for this. There is no organized, coherent plan beyond their present petty whims.

    "Apres moi, le deluge" is what is implicitly at work here.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Desiderius, @Jack Henson, @The Wild Geese Howard

    I tend to think it’s a little of both: they hate us and want us to become helots, and they’re not thinking things through too well.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  100. @Jack D
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Right, Royal Dutch Shell is a Dutch corporation whose Rockefeller figure was a Nazi. The Netherlands have very few Jews because of the recent unpleasant events. But if Shell is woke, it's still the Joos fault - everything is the Joos fault when you dig down deep enough. Look for the secret messages hidden on your ice cream carton.

    I don't know whether it's Christmas or what, but the Jew mania sees to be running particularly strong this week. Y'all are barking up the wrong tree. Maybe the Joos lit the match (I don't think so) but the house is burning now quite well on its own. Figuring out who started the fire is not helpful at this point. My son is a volunteer firefighter. Sometimes I ask him how a particular fire got started - he just shrugs his shoulders. His job is to rescue the inhabitants and put out the fire. Once job #1 is done, there is plenty of time for the fire marshal to come back and sift thru the fire scene to figure out how it started, but while the house is on fire, that's of zero importance. It's just a distraction from the real mission. If the fire marshal tried to start bugging the firefighters about the cause of the fire while the building was on fire, they'd kick him off the fire scene because he would be interfering with their jobs. First you put out the fire and then there will be plenty of time for finger pointing later - usually there is plenty of blame to go around in a tragedy and it's not just one person or thing anyway. Finding one person to be the scapegoat is tempting but it's wrong because then you are letting off all of the others who contributed.

    Replies: @BenKenobi, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Jack. You’re a smart guy, but your zealotry makes your replies so very repetitive.

    Look, I’ve always said that Jews and gentile whites share equally in what has happened. Con men always say that the mark has to want to believe the con. The old lady wants to believe that the young man finds her attractive.

    For a variety of reasons (most coming back to hubris, btw), gentile whites were ripe for the con of a multi-everything society. Jewish leaders (unrestrained by their community, i.e. people like you Jack) used their truly impressive skills – ability to make money, organization, communications, political maneuvering, etc. – to execute the con, believing (probably correctly) that such a society was Good for the Jews or, at least, Better for the Jews.

    Were Jews directly aided in the con by many gentile whites? Absolutely. But you can always find traitorous, disaffected locals to use.

    Was there some Jewish conspiracy? Of course not. Let’s not be childish. It was simply many individuals and groups with similar ideas working independently for a similar goal.

    Again, gentile whites are more to blame than Jews. I mean, it’s a fairly obvious con. Japan, China, South Korea, hopefully Eastern Europe, didn’t fall for it. The fact that many countries in Western Europe with extremely small Jewish populations fell for the con shows culpability of gentile whites. Sure, Jews did a masterful job of pushing the narrative on TV shows, the news and movies, but gentile whites didn’t have to buy into such trite.

    I don’t know why you are so reluctant to admit the role of Jews in where we are and, to continue your analogy, why buildings keep catching fire. It makes you seem a zealot. I’ve admitted that gentile whites bare much of the blame for buying into the con. The least that you can do is acknowledging Jews’ decisive role in coming up and executing the con.

    • Agree: Gordo
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    You still seem to think that the Jews are the "decisive" perpetrators of the con and that non-Jews serve in the role of the victim only - they fell for it because they are so trusting and naive and wonderful. I do not accept this - there are Jews and non-Jews on both sides of this, as perpetrators and victims, so if you focus on the Jews as being the sole perps then you are not seeing the big picture.

    Replies: @Hans, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Hans

    , @Corvinus
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Here’s the reality. Gentile whites have not been conned by Jews to believe in diversity. Rather, they have made that decision of their own accord. It’s easier for you to say that gentile whites have been brainwashed because they everything you tout is based on this (false) premise. You don’t even have to think logically anymore. Normies see right through your con artistry and it really shakes you to your core.

  101. @nebulafox
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    You give our elites too much credit: they are far too mentally limited for this. There is no organized, coherent plan beyond their present petty whims.

    "Apres moi, le deluge" is what is implicitly at work here.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Desiderius, @Jack Henson, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Various individuals and groups with similar beliefs working independently for similar goals. No organized plan, just hatred of you and me.

  102. @BannedHipster
    This is a question on the neo-right-wing. The "neo-reactionary" movement of Curtis Yarvin and Jim Donald says that multinational corporations like Shell, and their CEOs, have no power, are only interested in money, and go "woke" to appease the State that forces them to promote Social Justice Warriorism, LGBT-ism, and racial diversity.

    Instead, the neo-reactionaries claim that "wokeness" is a product of post-Christian - even post-Calvinist - white descendants of the Puritans. Harvard started as a Puritan seminary and just evolved into "wokeness" as they dropped the actual religion of Christianity and took up "Progressive Idealism" which is nothing but a secular form of Calvinist Christianity.

    Neo-reaction is very protective of what they call "merchants" meaning capitalists, big business, and the Fortune 500. And they are very concerned with "anti-semitism" seeing anti-semitism as a way to blame Jews for leftism and progressivism which is really promoted by post-Christian liberals.

    Of course, our host Ron Unz has thoroughly debunked the idea that Harvard specifically, and the Ivy League in general, are actually run by post-Calvinists whites and "WASPs."

    Most dissident rightists at least acknowledge that "Conservative Inc." and their funders like the Koch brothers and their organs like the CATO Institute have a "cheap-labor" interest in mass immigration.

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from? There are a lot of Catholic reactionary cranks like E. Michael Jones that blame "WASPs" and "Protestants" for most bad things, but they certainly have no mainstream political or social power and are relegated to the backwaters of the internet like most of us.

    I have my opinions but I'm willing to entertain the argument. What is the driving force behind Fortune 500 "wokeness?" Are the Fortune 500 companies promoting mass immigration and diversity for cheap labor, to stave off lawsuits over "racism and diversity," or perhaps bad publicity?

    Surely no one can argue that the rich, the corporate class, the Fortune 500 CEOs, hedge fund managers, etc., have no political power. The mass media are themselves Fortune 500 companies.

    So what drives corporate "wokeness?" It's an open question.

    Replies: @Charles, @eugyppius, @Anonymous, @dfordoom, @Hibernian, @Monsieur le Baron, @Faraday's Bobcat, @FPD72, @RW

    They’re woke because they want to be woke. It’s in their nature. I think a commentor said engineers and doctors skew conservative, but this is only true by comparison to the rest of the UMC+. Engineers and Doctors only go 50/50 on party affiliation. Gentry are more overrepresented than Jews in revolutions.

    Is this rational? Well, was it rational for the scorpion to sting the frog? Spandrell has a story of virtue signal spiraling from Ancient China. And I’ll leave you with the Russian Revolution. The terror of getting everything you asked for.

    >In the first days of the revolution Paul Grabbe remembered his mother coming home terribly upset. “‘Imagine!’ she said to me. ‘I just ran into Countess Sheremetev; and how do you suppose she greeted me? She said: ‘Isn’t it wonderful?’ and I said, ‘What’s wonderful?’ and she said, ‘Why, the Revolution, of course!’ and I said, ‘Well, Countess, you’re hardly the one to rejoice. It is precisely people like us who stand to lose everything.’”25 These two feelings—joy and fear—marked the most common responses, and some nobles experienced both.

  103. @nebulafox
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    You give our elites too much credit: they are far too mentally limited for this. There is no organized, coherent plan beyond their present petty whims.

    "Apres moi, le deluge" is what is implicitly at work here.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Desiderius, @Jack Henson, @The Wild Geese Howard

    It’s a little bit of both.

    https://americanmind.org/features/the-death-of-virtue-and-the-rise-of-expertise/losing-the-souls/

    I’ve done the late Ming comparison before; her article is along the same lines.

    Treasure Fleet/Apollo -> abdication of the emperor/abdication of our natural leadership class (as described in essay) -> takeover by malignant eunuchs/takeover by malignant eunuchs

  104. @BannedHipster
    This is a question on the neo-right-wing. The "neo-reactionary" movement of Curtis Yarvin and Jim Donald says that multinational corporations like Shell, and their CEOs, have no power, are only interested in money, and go "woke" to appease the State that forces them to promote Social Justice Warriorism, LGBT-ism, and racial diversity.

    Instead, the neo-reactionaries claim that "wokeness" is a product of post-Christian - even post-Calvinist - white descendants of the Puritans. Harvard started as a Puritan seminary and just evolved into "wokeness" as they dropped the actual religion of Christianity and took up "Progressive Idealism" which is nothing but a secular form of Calvinist Christianity.

    Neo-reaction is very protective of what they call "merchants" meaning capitalists, big business, and the Fortune 500. And they are very concerned with "anti-semitism" seeing anti-semitism as a way to blame Jews for leftism and progressivism which is really promoted by post-Christian liberals.

    Of course, our host Ron Unz has thoroughly debunked the idea that Harvard specifically, and the Ivy League in general, are actually run by post-Calvinists whites and "WASPs."

    Most dissident rightists at least acknowledge that "Conservative Inc." and their funders like the Koch brothers and their organs like the CATO Institute have a "cheap-labor" interest in mass immigration.

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from? There are a lot of Catholic reactionary cranks like E. Michael Jones that blame "WASPs" and "Protestants" for most bad things, but they certainly have no mainstream political or social power and are relegated to the backwaters of the internet like most of us.

    I have my opinions but I'm willing to entertain the argument. What is the driving force behind Fortune 500 "wokeness?" Are the Fortune 500 companies promoting mass immigration and diversity for cheap labor, to stave off lawsuits over "racism and diversity," or perhaps bad publicity?

    Surely no one can argue that the rich, the corporate class, the Fortune 500 CEOs, hedge fund managers, etc., have no political power. The mass media are themselves Fortune 500 companies.

    So what drives corporate "wokeness?" It's an open question.

    Replies: @Charles, @eugyppius, @Anonymous, @dfordoom, @Hibernian, @Monsieur le Baron, @Faraday's Bobcat, @FPD72, @RW

    Two reasons:

    1. Divide and conquer strategy to keep all the people who have no capital from teaming up and doing a 1917 on them.

    2. Destroying all traditional forms of status like citizenship, fatherhood, motherhood, etc. so that the only way to get status is to buy it.

    • Agree: houston 1992
  105. @nebulafox
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    You give our elites too much credit: they are far too mentally limited for this. There is no organized, coherent plan beyond their present petty whims.

    "Apres moi, le deluge" is what is implicitly at work here.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Desiderius, @Jack Henson, @The Wild Geese Howard

    It can be both.

  106. Okay, what’s the common thread of these otherwise diverse and conflicting elements?

    Shell is a multi-national corporation run by upper-middle class white collar men and women. The woman is an upper-middle class minority activist. Environmentalism is a popular political cause among upper-middle class urbanites that are divorced from the hands on world of farming, mining and manufacturing.

    If you follow Max Weber’s theories on class competition, you can built a strong case that today’s political conflict is essentially about political, social and economic competition between the lower-middle class and the upper-middle class. The upper-middle class tend to benefit from international bureaucracy, neoliberal economics, PC speech codes, and mass immigration. The ruder, more provincial, and less educated, lower middle class aren’t and so they’re venting on You Tube and promoting blunt, quasi nationalist politicians like Trump, Salvini, Farage, and Le Pen. And in response to this reversal of the natural order, the upper-middle class are losing their decorum and engaging in theatrical temper tantrums.

    • Replies: @Bay Area Guy
    @alt right moderate


    The upper-middle class tend to benefit from international bureaucracy, neoliberal economics, PC speech codes, and mass immigration.
     
    Agreed.

    So much of this Great Awokening nonsense can be attributed to intra-white class warfare. At the end of the day, CEOs and other affluent professionals can live with engaging in some white self-flagellation. After all, they're rich, and can always retreat back to their blessed lives after throwing their people under the bus.

    Regular white working stiffs, on the other hand, don't enjoy such a luxury.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @Anonymous
    @alt right moderate

    For a Weberian case: the phenomenon of Confederate statues triggering Asian and mestizo college kids (let alone the sparser black ones) -- what is the rationalized, materialist, cui bono objective? There isn't any, it's all mimetic/faddish status-striving which can go on "sustainably" well past the destruction of more than the statues.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  107. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack Henson

    Steve tends to give the other side the benefit of the doubt because he grew in a time when what is happening now would seem impossible so it remains so in his mind. There's an amazing amount of brain power exerted around here to avoid having to mentally accept a simple reality:

    They hate you and want you and your family turned into helots.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Jack Henson, @Corvinus

    It’s definitely a variant of grill nationalism where you downplay the fatal seriousness of the other side as a cope strategy. They’re telling you that they want you dead and you’re just insisting you want to grill and that should be the end of it, lol.

    There’s 0 endgame around here because the ugly reality is too much for The Biggest Internet Brains seem to expect A Miracle Happens and we all go back to living in 1960s SoCal.

    A lot of dissidents insisting they’re not. Strange times.

    • Agree: BenKenobi
  108. @Anonymous
    @Anon

    Interesting choice of business name by her husband, an "Information Technology Engineer":


    Technology Consultant
    1619 Enterprises

    Aug 2017 – Jun 2018 11 months

    Brooklyn, NY.

    Provide technology services for clients who need assistance in creating a digital presence(web and social media), maintaining communications with their customer base and technology-related support.

    Provide technology services for clients who need assistance in creating a digital presence(web and social media), maintaining communications with their customer base and technology-related support.
     

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    So hubby was charging sophisticated and urbane Brooklynites $500 an hour to set up their Facebook and Twitter accounts?

    That’s quite the hustle.

  109. @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Jack D

    I can look ahead 200 years on some mind meld forum where somebody poses a thought about how Jews were overwhelmingly part of the the finance and media sectors of the crumbling USA, and some gaslighting entity named Jack Jetson will be projecting his absolutist snark upon the former.

    2000 years ago it was the Romans who killed Jesus you see, not the Jews. Somethings never change.

    Replies: @Jack Henson

    The inability for jews to self reflect and run to snark as a defensive mechanism never ceases to amaze.

  110. @eah
    Spotted Toad is probably overthinking this in the specific, but it does seem to work like that in the general.

    Or maybe you underthink it, or underreact to it, in order to minimize the possibility of being called "reprllent racist filth" again.

    Which comes first, the chicken "general" or the egg 'specifics'? -- all of the 'specifics' manifest themselves in the general.

    link

    Our new elite is well on the way to creating a new serf class by devastating the native White working class and importing poor, uneducated Democrat voters. Income inequality highest blue states.
     
    Or the 'American Dream' is to return from a trip abroad, only to find all of the people around you in the queue for 'US Citizens, Permanent Residents, and Immigrant Visa Holders' look like an amalgamation of the countries you just visited.

    https://twitter.com/ajdhenry/status/1208868894057943041

    Replies: @Hail, @Ed, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Dissident

    I was going to say Dover, NJ, but his description doesn’t quite sound like northern Squatemalistan.

  111. This is all just part of the NWO Globalist Satanist Agenda–the Rothschilds/Banksters and their ilk/lackeys by and large control most all of these Corporations now in one way or another–hate “whitey” is just part of their game plan to destroy Western Civilization and Christianity and instill a system of impoverished peons only and them on top of course — they have been very open about what they are doing in the past though they attempt to lie about it now and the Mainslime Media they control helps them in any way possible, propaganda 24/7 and lies from the NYSlimes and the rest —

    Soros is their front man as are the EU Bureaucrat fools, Dems, RINOS etc.–they now control the Catholic Church thru the Masonic/Communist/Satanist infiltration of it having installed “the Francis” to try and finish the job there of bringing it fully into the GloboHomo network as some kind of Soros NWO NGO joke…. most of the rest of “christianity” has been taken long ago and Lesbian “ministers” and homos have been and are “running” the Anglican and other Prot “churches”, most of which are basically Communist pro-illegal alien versions of “christianity” —

    All of this is part of the same overall game plan playing out, including Soros now destroying local law enforcement electing Communist District Attorneys etc. — The major goal now is to destroy the USA and even AG Barr had to finally comment on it the other day finally, gone that far — and yet people can’t see it at work here?: https://sovereignwales.com/2016/09/20/the-genocidal-kalergi-plan-to-destroy-the-indigenous-nations-and-peoples-of-europe/

  112. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Hail

    1. A nation of immigrants must never be allowed to become a nation of natives.
    2. Everywhere must be made to look like everywhere else.

    I think it's madness, but this has become a religion for a lot of people.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    1. A nation of immigrants must never be allowed to become a nation of natives.
    2. Everywhere must be made to look like everywhere else.

    I think it’s madness, but this has become a religion for a lot of people.

    How does one combat it?

  113. @Kaplan Turqweather
    From Alexander Hamilton: Honorary Non-white:

    "A simple model that helps make much about the modern world easier to comprehend is that of a high-low tag team against the middle. As part of a time-tested strategy of divide and rule, the rich tend to push for policies and attitudes that increase identity-politics divisiveness”€”more immigration, more Black Lives Matter rioting, more transgender agitation, and so forth”€”which makes it harder for the nonrich to team up politically to promote their mutual economic interests...

    since standing up for the implicitly white little guy is racist, we now stand up for the big guy. (Who is almost always white. Funny how that works…)"

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “A simple model that helps make much about the modern world easier to comprehend is that of a high-low tag team against the middle.

    A more accurate model would be that of a Jew/Asian/Black tag team against people of European descent.

    • Replies: @Kaplan Turqweather
    @Anonymous

    The shift of Jewish populations rightward in response to both Third World anti-Zionism/anti-Semitism (https://www.takimag.com/article/are_jews_losing_control_of_the_media_steve_sailer/) and the rapid growth of the largely lower-income ultra-Orthodox due to high birthrates (i.e. regarding recent anti-Semitic attacks in Jersey City) will change that to a large degree.

    I was recently astonished to see that Trump of all people has been attracting a third of black support(https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/black-voter-support-for-trump-at-highest-levels-could-seal-2020-win%3f_amp=true). This hasn't been seen in sixty years!

  114. OT?

    Virginia National Guardsman to VA Governor: “We will not comply” with unConstitutional gun grabs.

    https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/national-guardsman-we-will-not-comply-if-ordered-by-virginia-governor-to-arrest-police-confiscate-guns/

    In Milwaukee, the police will be barred from complying with any law that requires them to cooperate with ICE. I guess because this country is fundamentally not legit unless the Zeroeth Amendment is always obeyed.

    https://wisconsinmuslimjournal.org/fire-and-police-commission-approve-non-collaboration-policy-with-ice-a-victory-for-immigrants-and-milwaukee/

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @anon

    To be clear, Second Amendment Sanctuaries predate immigration ones, and protect a non-negotiable, foundational principle of our law which ought not to need extra protections, while the immigration sanctuaries are law school graduates not understanding what the supremacy clause is. This is a situation where all fact, law, and right is 100% on our side, and the other guys just do not care, and they're still coming. This is how violence starts. Let's all hope that Bloomberg's well-paid puppets collapse and back down before there are any deaths.

  115. @syonredux
    @Reg Cæsar


    It’s Royal Dutch Shell. The Dutch have a relatively short and trivial history with slavery.

     

    Dunno...

    Between 1596 and 1829, the Dutch transported about half a million Africans across the Atlantic. Large numbers were taken to the small islands of Curaçao and St. Eustatius, in the Caribbean. Most of the Africans landed there, however, were subsequently trans-shipped to Spanish colonies. The two islands were thus staging posts for the re-sale and dispatch of Africans who survived the Middle Passage to other American slave colonies.
     
    http://slaveryandremembrance.org/articles/article/?id=A0145

    The Dutch sugar plantations in Suriname were quite brutal, even by the standards of "sugar slavery"...

    Replies: @S

    Between 1596 and 1829, the Dutch transported about half a million Africans across the Atlantic.

    Indeed, it was a Dutch ship which unloaded it’s unholy cargo of twenty or so slaves at Jamestown in 1619.

    According to Henry Carey, a chief economic adviser of Lincoln, the cheap labor/mass immigration system (already quite evident then in 1853 when he wrote this) was simply ‘the slave trade of the last century on a grander scale’, ie chattel slavery and it’s trade was monetized (stream lined financially, the core essence of it remaining) and not abolished. Out of the frying pan and into the fire as it were.

    Appropriately enough, it was in 1869, some 250 years after chattel slaves were first introduced at Jamestown by a Dutch ship, that the Dutch ‘labor contractor’ Cornelius Koopmanschap was making a big splash with his declared intention to import one hundred thousand Chinese wage slaves (ie so called ‘cheap laborer’/’coolies’) directly into the United States.

    Koopmanschap, whose name in Dutch means ‘commerce’ or ‘business’, handled the North American distribution of the Chinese wage slaves as his business. He had been providing his services to the western railroad barons such as Stanford in California, but wished with this effort to branch out and expand his ‘market’ to the Southern plantation owners, who were said to be quite amiable to his proposal.

    Koopmanschap had a Hong Kong based business partner, Maurice Bosman, who handled the Asian procurement of the Chinese wage slaves. Bosman was at minimum half Jewish, if not wholly Jewish. [Bosman has an interesting history in Hong Kong if a person wishes to check further.]

    KOOPMANSCHAP; Who He Is, What He has Done, and What He Proposes to do, The Approaching Inundation of Chinese Coolies

    The New York Times (July 21, 1869) – Page 2

    It is only a few weeks ago that the name of KOOPMANSCHAP was unknown to fame. Suddenly it has emerged from the obscurity with which the appellations of ordinary mortals are surrounded and occupies a lofty nich within the nation’s fame. Everybody is asking, Who is KOOPMANSCHAP?

    Anyhow, for various reasons, Koopmanscap and Bosman’s 1869 Chinese plans fell through with the plantation owners.

    As the Pall Mall Gazette of London in 1874 specifically identified, ‘race’ was the primary impediment that was getting in the way of such endeavors. At the time people in the United States, and Australia, weren’t taking too kindly to being genocided via being ‘mixed’ out of existance due to some not wanting to pay the prevailing real time local costs of labor (ie railroad barons/plantation owners,etc) and others who profited by satiating this same greed (ie Koopmanschap/Bosman etc).

    So, yes, Dutch Shell sponsoring the 1619 project, and the ad featuring the ‘mixed’ racial results due to chattel and or wage slavery, which people are conditioned to now ’embrace’ and ‘celebrate’ (or else!) rather than as in the past flee from, is entirely fitting.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1869/07/21/archives/koopmanschap-who-he-is-what-he-has-done-and-what-he-proposes-to-do.html

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @S


    Indeed, it was a Dutch ship which unloaded it’s unholy cargo of twenty or so slaves at Jamestown in 1619.
     
    How active were Jews in the trade and commerce of Amsterdam/Netherlands in this time period? Had they been emancipated?

    Replies: @S

  116. @njguy73
    @Reg Cæsar

    I use BCE and CE. But not because I'm anti-religion or a cuck. It's because I'm not Christian.

    I would never tell a Christian not to use BC and AD. To deny them the use of those would be to deny them their religious freedom.

    Replies: @a guy named me

    Right so you don’t use Thursday, Wednesday, Friday because of the same rigorous standard.
    And what marks the beginning of the “Common Era” ?

    • Replies: @njguy73
    @a guy named me

    What marks the beginning on the Common Era?

    The event which I refer to as "the birth of the Nazarene."

    And using the names of the days of the week doesn't infringe on my religion, since doing so doesn't mean I acknowledge Odin or Thor. Do you acknowledge Odin or Thor?

    Replies: @a guy named me

  117. Anonymous[226] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    @eugyppius

    Well stated...Another factor effecting the class dynamics in America is the tumbling birth rates among whites , thus the white working class population is now very small compared to 50 years ago. Back in 1970 we still employed 10 million factory workers in America , mostly whites.

    One example is manufacturing jobs, which in 1970 employed 1 in 3 white people and today employs one in 16 whites. Millions of American men once worked making steel and cars. Today very few White men are working in traditional blue collar jobs. Many jobs which were once union and paid decent wages are now at minimum wage.

    Back in the 70s the teamsters still controlled most of the shipping, warehouses, truck drivers were mostly teamsters, mostly white guys. in 1980 a Teamster unloading Trucks was earning $95,000 per. Today such jobs pay just $30,000 per year with no benefits at Amazon and many other warehouses across America.

    One reason Walmart was kept out of Pennsylvania and New Jersey until 1995 was due to the Unions. The unions lost political power for several reasons, one being less and less union jobs, which reduced the unions political power. It really is a numbers game. Back in 1980 there were 3 million Teamsters, today they have half the numbers of Teamsters , despite the growth of trucking and shipping, the numbers of Teamster members have fallen significantly.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @eugyppius, @Gordo

    Because BLET joined Teamsters, they have more railroaders than truckers now. WM pays truckers over Teamster wages, by the way. Outside the executive suite the only WalMartians that are very well paid are the truck drivers.

    And the pillcops, of course. Pharmacist’s board is a union no different than teamsters, is it?

  118. @eugyppius
    @BannedHipster


    So what drives corporate “wokeness?” It’s an open question.

     

    At first it seemed strange to me, that capital should be woke, but in retrospect capital has wanted to be woke for a long time, and in fact it makes a great deal of sense. Wokeness is just the leftist drive for equality and tolerance without the confiscatory/ redistributionist/ socialist economic program. Of course it is kind of unexpected, how amenable and attractive capital finds leftism to be, once it has been denuded of everything it had to say about money and property and the means of production. Leftism was supposed to be the death of capital, but now that capital is allowed to be leftist and keep its money, leftism is everything that capital wants. The reasons seem to be the usual boring ones: Leftists have become natural supporters of immigration and feminism and open borders; and all of these things keep wages low and ensure the unimpeded flow of capital and labor all over the place.

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from?
     
    Now that capital is woke -- now that, like the borg, it has assimilated its opposition, namely various flavors of socialist leftist labor activism -- it can turn on its historical enemy, which was once organized labor but has become, broadly, the native overwhelmingly white working class. Thus a high-low alliance has formed, between the new urban managerial cohorts on the one hand (the SWPL-types who manage the large corporations, rather than own them; the professoriate; a great part of the clergy; doctors and lawyers; etc.); and the restive underclass minorities and recent immigrants who hope to appropriate the social and economic position of the native (white) blue collar population. This high-low alliance is manifest, in part, as a pervasive anti-whiteness, as the top and the bottom try to join forces to culturally malign, vilify and marginalize working-class people.

    Thus it has become black slaves who built this nation, whereas in the middle years of the 20th century, you were far more likely to hear that it was (white) factory workers who built American industry. Of course that was also far nearer the truth.

    Becoming more speculative, and drawing a bit on Sam Francis, I think what has happened in the modern world is that the traditional three-tier class system (upper, middle, lower) has been replaced by a five-tier system that looks like this:

    1) Upper classes: same as before, aristocrats and owners of capital
    2) Upper managerial classes: the people who actually run corporations, as opposed to owning them
    3) The traditional middle class
    4) The native working class (mostly white)
    5) The serfs: mainly newly arrived immigrants and other racial minorities

    The big change is that 1) the upper class ceased to directly managed capital and became content with distant ownership, as 2) the upper managerial classes took over the day-to-day operations of corporations and thus a great part of society. Meanwhile decades of mass immigration and an increasingly fake service economy have brought in a load of 5) serfs who provide seasonal agricultural labor, clean your hotel room, etc.

    The upper managerial classes,a cosmopolitan urban elite long opposed to nativist tendencies, political inclinations, etc. among the heretofore 3) middle and 4) working class (increasingly collapsed into each other as wages are driven downwards), have allied themselves with the serfs. Ideally this lower serf class would totally replace the troublesome, reactionary, uncooperative, ignorant, underconsuming, Trump-supporting etc. middle and working classes, which upper management hopes will lead to an economic utopia (really a dystopia) in which everybody just buys their products all the time.

    Replies: @anon, @Riccy

    Nah. It’s just plain old Satanism. Worship of raw power, evil, the ugly, and pure joy of destroying what God has wrought. AS IF. This is what you get when Christ is removed from the world, and people get enough wealth to entertain their evil fantasies. No Deplorable is hurting any of the elites who are behind these operations against them. This is war against Christ, and people who THEY perceive as Christian and Good. People who do not believe these elites and their minions can create reality, turn human beings into fungible sexbots and children into main courses and “entertainment”.

    • Replies: @eugyppius
    @Riccy


    Nah. It’s just plain old Satanism.
     
    The problem with the "it's just evil" thesis is that it's less an explanation of what's happening, than it is a statement of how you feel about it. Out there in the world of power, people are implementing plans to accomplish very specific goals, and we have no hope of defeating them if we don't understand what they are trying to do.

    No Deplorable is hurting any of the elites who are behind these operations against them.
     
    I don't claim that class analysis is the only way to understand politics, but in the modern world it's proven remarkably effective. Also, our opponents think in these terms, so I think we should too.

    The white working and middle classes (I will call them the Natives) are "hurting" the new managerial elites (the Managers) in much the same way that organized labor "hurt" the capitalists in days of yore. The Natives oppose the plans and goals of Managers in many routine aspects of their daily existence. They vote against their policies. A great deal of this opposition is obscured because everything has been done to stifle the political will of the Natives and keep their true sentiments out of sight and out of the media. As a result the confusion here is boundless: The Managers have an instinctive hatred for the Natives but even many of them have no real insight as to why; the Natives feel the hatred and exclusion but find it baffling and, as you write, evil. As a mental experiment, though, imagine that the US established tomorrow a direct democracy in which referenda could be proposed by anyone, upvoted and legally enacted by some simple internet mechanism. Oh, and by some miracle only the Natives were allowed to participate. What would happen? The Natives would shut down mass immigration and perhaps get repatriation programs up and running, they would enact protectionist trade policies, they would do whatever else was necessary to bring back domestic industry, they would end our foreign military adventures tout court and perhaps even redeploy the army domestically, against invasion from the south; and they would do all of this whatever the consequences for GDP.

    That is basically the nightmare scenario for the Managers, who want their corporations to have access to all markets everywhere, who maximize profits in large part by driving wages downwards, who simply want to ensure optimal conditions for the consumption of their cheap plastic garbage. And so the Managers regard the Natives like the sword of Damocles hanging over their head, an ever-present danger that they wish to sideline or eliminate.

    As elites go, the Managers are new and insecure. Like all elites, they need roots in the society, a base of support, but they are detached urban bureaucrats, newly arrived on the scene in the 20th century following changes to the way capital was managed in mass society. They are at best ignored and at worst despised by the Natives. Thus their alliance with and eager promotion of the new serf class, the racial minorities and mass immigrants that capital originally brought on the scene to reduce labor costs, but that the Managers now eye as allies, the perfect people to play the peasants to their lords in the new corporate feudalism they hope to enact. In their fever dreams, the Managers envision presiding over a two-tier society, where they sit at the top, and everyone else toils among the serfs beneath them. The Natives, accustomed to far better conditions, will never go along with this vision, so they must be at best leveled out (immiserated until their expectations equate with those of the third-world populations right now so eagerly imported) or replaced (bred out of existence by the same imported third-world populations).


    This is war against Christ, and people who THEY perceive as Christian and Good.
     
    We're not going to get out of this until religion is re-established in the west at least as firmly as it is in the Islamic world right now. That said, it is worth at least a few moments of introspection to ponder how easily the universalist message of Christianity has been aligned with the program of the Managers. Western religion has not helped us repel the invaders. First in the colonial period and now in the era of inverted colonialism it has done the opposite, namely convinced Western Christian populations that the whole world is their responsibility and/or that the whole world is entitled to their culture, their society and their politics. And while there are traditionalist nativist strains of Christianity out there, the vast majority of Christians today, including all of the major churches and institutions, have not only fallen in line with the managerial agenda, but become some of its loudest advocates. They are at the front of this clown column piping us all into the river. And so, while I understand your sentiment that this is a "war against Christ," I don't really think that stands up to analysis. Christianity writ large is totally on board with the managerial project. It wants what the Managers want.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @James J. O'Meara, @James J. O'Meara

  119. @njguy73
    @Hans

    What if people stopped working for money?

    What if people uncoupled themselves from the currency-based economy?

    What if people simply got homesteads, grew their own food, reduced their needs to bare necessities, and stopped running themselves ragged to make money?

    Who would compensate whom?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Sol

    The problem is that subsistence farming is a hell of a lot of work. The Amish are probably the best in the world at it and they work from sun-up to sundown six days a week.

  120. @anon
    @eugyppius

    Well stated...Another factor effecting the class dynamics in America is the tumbling birth rates among whites , thus the white working class population is now very small compared to 50 years ago. Back in 1970 we still employed 10 million factory workers in America , mostly whites.

    One example is manufacturing jobs, which in 1970 employed 1 in 3 white people and today employs one in 16 whites. Millions of American men once worked making steel and cars. Today very few White men are working in traditional blue collar jobs. Many jobs which were once union and paid decent wages are now at minimum wage.

    Back in the 70s the teamsters still controlled most of the shipping, warehouses, truck drivers were mostly teamsters, mostly white guys. in 1980 a Teamster unloading Trucks was earning $95,000 per. Today such jobs pay just $30,000 per year with no benefits at Amazon and many other warehouses across America.

    One reason Walmart was kept out of Pennsylvania and New Jersey until 1995 was due to the Unions. The unions lost political power for several reasons, one being less and less union jobs, which reduced the unions political power. It really is a numbers game. Back in 1980 there were 3 million Teamsters, today they have half the numbers of Teamsters , despite the growth of trucking and shipping, the numbers of Teamster members have fallen significantly.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @eugyppius, @Gordo

    I agree very hard. The new managers are hoping that the white working classes who oppose them can be outbred by fertile immigrants from the global south. White workers are a declining share of the population and their reduced political pull has changed American politics forever, and very much for the worse.

    One reason Walmart was kept out of Pennsylvania and New Jersey until 1995 was due to the Unions.

    So often the vilest, most absurd aspects of our world turn out to be the things against which our forefathers fortified all the gates. But the next generation derided our forefathers as racists and reactionaries and losers. And they unlocked a few doors, and now if we survive we’ll be treated to a long-term lesson about the manifold and multifarious ways that these guys were right.

  121. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D

    Jack. You're a smart guy, but your zealotry makes your replies so very repetitive.

    Look, I've always said that Jews and gentile whites share equally in what has happened. Con men always say that the mark has to want to believe the con. The old lady wants to believe that the young man finds her attractive.

    For a variety of reasons (most coming back to hubris, btw), gentile whites were ripe for the con of a multi-everything society. Jewish leaders (unrestrained by their community, i.e. people like you Jack) used their truly impressive skills - ability to make money, organization, communications, political maneuvering, etc. - to execute the con, believing (probably correctly) that such a society was Good for the Jews or, at least, Better for the Jews.

    Were Jews directly aided in the con by many gentile whites? Absolutely. But you can always find traitorous, disaffected locals to use.

    Was there some Jewish conspiracy? Of course not. Let's not be childish. It was simply many individuals and groups with similar ideas working independently for a similar goal.

    Again, gentile whites are more to blame than Jews. I mean, it's a fairly obvious con. Japan, China, South Korea, hopefully Eastern Europe, didn't fall for it. The fact that many countries in Western Europe with extremely small Jewish populations fell for the con shows culpability of gentile whites. Sure, Jews did a masterful job of pushing the narrative on TV shows, the news and movies, but gentile whites didn't have to buy into such trite.

    I don't know why you are so reluctant to admit the role of Jews in where we are and, to continue your analogy, why buildings keep catching fire. It makes you seem a zealot. I've admitted that gentile whites bare much of the blame for buying into the con. The least that you can do is acknowledging Jews' decisive role in coming up and executing the con.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Corvinus

    You still seem to think that the Jews are the “decisive” perpetrators of the con and that non-Jews serve in the role of the victim only – they fell for it because they are so trusting and naive and wonderful. I do not accept this – there are Jews and non-Jews on both sides of this, as perpetrators and victims, so if you focus on the Jews as being the sole perps then you are not seeing the big picture.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Hans
    @Jack D

    "I don't care if Americans think we're running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them." - Joel Stein, LA Times, 12/19/08

    But, no doubt, there's been an anti-Goyism Czar for decades monitoring and combatting anti-goyism.

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D

    Still won't admit Jewish complicity, eh, Jack.

    One thing I've always respected about Jews is their tenacity. Never give an inch. Never admit anything regardless of the evidence. It's shocking how well it works. I've never figured out whether it's a debating tactic or if you're just a tad insane. Maybe both. Either way, it is tiresome. Hell, it even seems to tire out Jews! ;)

    As always, please re-read my comment. You'll notice that I somewhat agree with you. (See how nice it is to debate people actually consider your side.) Gentile whites are in no way, shape or form "trusting and naive and wonderful." Naturally, I never said that, indeed, the opposite. But what should one expect when conversing with Jack D.

    Gentile whites are the spoiled trust fund kids of the world. We despise the accomplishments of our forefathers even while living off of the fruits of their labor. We reject the culture and values that made our soft world possible. We are so lost as to believe the words of a people who openly hate us.

    You see, Jack, that's the difference between us. When has Jack ever written honestly about Jews? You can't. It's just not in you. That helps you as a people, but it's very tedious one on one. You're boring Jack.

    Khag Urim Sameakh

    , @Hans
    @Jack D

    Yes, there are jews on both sides but we never hear from the ones on the other side outside of a handful. explain. thanks.

  122. @alt right moderate
    Okay, what's the common thread of these otherwise diverse and conflicting elements?

    Shell is a multi-national corporation run by upper-middle class white collar men and women. The woman is an upper-middle class minority activist. Environmentalism is a popular political cause among upper-middle class urbanites that are divorced from the hands on world of farming, mining and manufacturing.

    If you follow Max Weber's theories on class competition, you can built a strong case that today's political conflict is essentially about political, social and economic competition between the lower-middle class and the upper-middle class. The upper-middle class tend to benefit from international bureaucracy, neoliberal economics, PC speech codes, and mass immigration. The ruder, more provincial, and less educated, lower middle class aren't and so they're venting on You Tube and promoting blunt, quasi nationalist politicians like Trump, Salvini, Farage, and Le Pen. And in response to this reversal of the natural order, the upper-middle class are losing their decorum and engaging in theatrical temper tantrums.

    Replies: @Bay Area Guy, @Anonymous

    The upper-middle class tend to benefit from international bureaucracy, neoliberal economics, PC speech codes, and mass immigration.

    Agreed.

    So much of this Great Awokening nonsense can be attributed to intra-white class warfare. At the end of the day, CEOs and other affluent professionals can live with engaging in some white self-flagellation. After all, they’re rich, and can always retreat back to their blessed lives after throwing their people under the bus.

    Regular white working stiffs, on the other hand, don’t enjoy such a luxury.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Bay Area Guy

    They’re not flagellating themselves, they’re flagellating you.

    Replies: @Bay Area Guy

  123. @Anon
    I wonder what the deal with this is?:

    This event is FREE but RSVP is REQUIRED to attend

    Invitations and RSVPs are NON-TRANSFERABLE
     

    I'm imagining some sort of screening process. They want to know your name. I wonder if this is so they can find you after the event if you cause trouble, or also to keep you from attending the event if you show up on their "no-fly list." I wonder if there are such lists out there, of right-winger troublemakers and of left-wing troublemakers?

    I've always thought that this would be a good way to deal with right-wing speakers on campus, advance videoed off-site reservations in person with photo ID and photo ID check at the hall.

    Replies: @Kronos, @anon

    I wonder if there are such lists out there, of right-winger troublemakers and of left-wing troublemakers?

    Oh yeah, there’s a ton of them. I interned for a US Senator branch office for a while and they possess special lists for campaign/official visit trouble makers. It’s likely ballooned on account of social media and performance artists. I learned early on that right-wing troublemakers are more often “lone wolf” types while the lefty troublemakers “attack” in swarms. (Both *mainly* cause trouble in the form of heckling.) The politicians are mainly afraid of a “Hey Goldberg!” “Bonfire of the Vanities” heckler attack like what happened to that Mayor in the book’s beginning.

  124. @Jack D
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    You still seem to think that the Jews are the "decisive" perpetrators of the con and that non-Jews serve in the role of the victim only - they fell for it because they are so trusting and naive and wonderful. I do not accept this - there are Jews and non-Jews on both sides of this, as perpetrators and victims, so if you focus on the Jews as being the sole perps then you are not seeing the big picture.

    Replies: @Hans, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Hans

    “I don’t care if Americans think we’re running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them.” – Joel Stein, LA Times, 12/19/08

    But, no doubt, there’s been an anti-Goyism Czar for decades monitoring and combatting anti-goyism.

  125. @International Jew
    @22pp22

    Being as Nikole Hannah-Jones has one white parent and one black parent, she should just pay reparations to herself and leave us out of it.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    So that black-and-white dress is the visual manifestation of her inner struggle for personal identity … or perhaps just a subliminal reminder to pick up some of those big black-and-white cookies at the bakery

  126. Anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:

    Materialist explanations are too convenient and thus, overdone, I would say. The religious revivalist nature of wokeness — all the protean taboos, manner-minding, and pulling rank on your social rivals — has to exist first before the shakedown can, before people get thinking of ways to make easy money off it; the John McWhorter piece about “Nacirema” is a good precis for this. Religiose race anti-realism just plain goes down easier for Joe Wine-Cave compared to rationally engaging with all the contradictions of multiculturalism and egalitarianism offered up daily. Since the fever won’t break once X amount of money by Shell or X number of elections by Wokepublicans is lost, there’s no point trying to lecture the prey of the wokesters of whatever hue that they’re not acting in their best interests by complying with this creed. “Political correctness is the cant of our age” – J. Derbyshire (I think?)

  127. Anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:
    @alt right moderate
    Okay, what's the common thread of these otherwise diverse and conflicting elements?

    Shell is a multi-national corporation run by upper-middle class white collar men and women. The woman is an upper-middle class minority activist. Environmentalism is a popular political cause among upper-middle class urbanites that are divorced from the hands on world of farming, mining and manufacturing.

    If you follow Max Weber's theories on class competition, you can built a strong case that today's political conflict is essentially about political, social and economic competition between the lower-middle class and the upper-middle class. The upper-middle class tend to benefit from international bureaucracy, neoliberal economics, PC speech codes, and mass immigration. The ruder, more provincial, and less educated, lower middle class aren't and so they're venting on You Tube and promoting blunt, quasi nationalist politicians like Trump, Salvini, Farage, and Le Pen. And in response to this reversal of the natural order, the upper-middle class are losing their decorum and engaging in theatrical temper tantrums.

    Replies: @Bay Area Guy, @Anonymous

    For a Weberian case: the phenomenon of Confederate statues triggering Asian and mestizo college kids (let alone the sparser black ones) — what is the rationalized, materialist, cui bono objective? There isn’t any, it’s all mimetic/faddish status-striving which can go on “sustainably” well past the destruction of more than the statues.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    For a Weberian case: the phenomenon of Confederate statues triggering Asian and mestizo college kids (let alone the sparser black ones) — what is the rationalized, materialist, cui bono objective?
     
    Easy. The objective is the suppression and deterrence of White identity. A White identity group would be a threat (or rival) to these other identity groups.
  128. The below is an excerpt of a blog which elaborates a bit further on the mid 19th century Dutch ‘labor contractor’ Cornelius Koopmanschap. The full name of his half (or possibly wholly) Jewish Hong Kong based business partner was Charles Henri Maurice Bosman.

    Note the cartoon is of an Irish cheap laborer in California resenting (to put it mildly) the presence of the newly ‘imported’ Chinese wage slaves. The link includes clippings from Georgia newspapers of circa 1870 about the Chinese being brought in to work on the plantations.

    The articles comment how the newly minted Negro cheap laborers in Georgia didn’t much like this Chinese intrusion.

    Left unmentioned at all is the needs of the vast majority of the still then largely Anglo-Saxon population, the vast majority who had neither owned chattel slaves nor exploited others as wage slaves, ie the so called ‘cheap laborers’. Indeed, they had to had to suffer grievously with both. [And people wonder why the Klan rose up at the time?]

    1619 with it’s chattel slavery set a horrible template in place driven by a desire of some to not pay the prevailing real time local costs of labor to typically their own people and by others wishing to profit from this greed.

    2019 with it’s wage slavery (the so called ‘cheap labor’) has this very same horrid template in place today.

    The Big Lie, the lie of the millenium, was the 19th century abolition of slavery.

    ‘..It [‘cheap labor’] is the slave trade of the last century reproduced on a grander scale..’ US based economist Henry Charles Carey writing in 1853.

    A leading labor contractor, Cornelius Koopmanschap, who had earlier success importing Chinese to help build the Central Pacific Railroad made a proposal in 1869 at a Memphis convention of Southern planters to bring Chinese farm laborers to the South to replace black labor lost when slavery ended. He maintained that the Chinese were not only cheaper, but also more reliable workers, but there was also opposition that feared a large influx of Orientals.

    https://archive.org/details/slavetradedomest01care/page/n5

    https://chineseamericanhistorian.blogspot.com/2013/07/chinese-for-south.html?m=1

  129. anon[267] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    I wonder what the deal with this is?:

    This event is FREE but RSVP is REQUIRED to attend

    Invitations and RSVPs are NON-TRANSFERABLE
     

    I'm imagining some sort of screening process. They want to know your name. I wonder if this is so they can find you after the event if you cause trouble, or also to keep you from attending the event if you show up on their "no-fly list." I wonder if there are such lists out there, of right-winger troublemakers and of left-wing troublemakers?

    I've always thought that this would be a good way to deal with right-wing speakers on campus, advance videoed off-site reservations in person with photo ID and photo ID check at the hall.

    Replies: @Kronos, @anon

    They want to know your name. I wonder if this is so they can find you after the event if you cause trouble, or also to keep you from attending the event if you show up on their “no-fly list.”

    Both.

    Kronos
    It’s likely ballooned on account of social media and performance artists.

    I’m sure there’s an app for it. Perhaps Google Drive+ or something cloud based.

    Soros funded no doubt.

    Konspiracy web site sez Soros orgs including Media Matters planning to push Others off social media in 2020. Kind of an open secret, really. Will it happen? We’ll see.

    https://newspunch.com/memo-soros-funded-social-media-censorship-plan/

  130. @Anonymous
    @Kaplan Turqweather


    “A simple model that helps make much about the modern world easier to comprehend is that of a high-low tag team against the middle.
     
    A more accurate model would be that of a Jew/Asian/Black tag team against people of European descent.

    Replies: @Kaplan Turqweather

    The shift of Jewish populations rightward in response to both Third World anti-Zionism/anti-Semitism (https://www.takimag.com/article/are_jews_losing_control_of_the_media_steve_sailer/) and the rapid growth of the largely lower-income ultra-Orthodox due to high birthrates (i.e. regarding recent anti-Semitic attacks in Jersey City) will change that to a large degree.

    I was recently astonished to see that Trump of all people has been attracting a third of black support(https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/black-voter-support-for-trump-at-highest-levels-could-seal-2020-win%3f_amp=true). This hasn’t been seen in sixty years!

  131. Old Glory shines brightest when under attack, whether from Brit cannonades, Jap Zeros, of halfwits from the New Haven Mental Hospital.

    I say bring it on Royal Shell – our fracking fluid has already drained half your milkshake, our nukes will soon take care of the other.

  132. @22pp22
    I am a white. That is all. My people have white skin and their nationality is unimportant to me. I wish other people no ill, but they are not my people. If they want reparations, then I want reparations for the millions of my people who were enslaved by the Barbary pirates and the Ottomans. I regret what happened to her people but not to the extent of making any personal sacrifices.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Colin Wright, @International Jew, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @BB753

    I want reparations for the millions of my people who were enslaved by the Barbary pirates and the Ottomans.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Baltimore

  133. @a guy named me
    @njguy73

    Right so you don't use Thursday, Wednesday, Friday because of the same rigorous standard.
    And what marks the beginning of the "Common Era" ?

    Replies: @njguy73

    What marks the beginning on the Common Era?

    The event which I refer to as “the birth of the Nazarene.”

    And using the names of the days of the week doesn’t infringe on my religion, since doing so doesn’t mean I acknowledge Odin or Thor. Do you acknowledge Odin or Thor?

    • LOL: Desiderius
    • Replies: @a guy named me
    @njguy73

    And using the names of the days of the week doesn’t infringe on my religion, since doing so doesn’t mean I acknowledge Odin or Thor.

    it is the day in honor of the god thor, or odin - odin's day - like 'the year of our Lord' . you just have one standard for Christianity and another for pagan religions.

    It doesn't matter if it 'infringes' on 'your' religion - you live in a society that used that name and date convention - and you and your coreligionist deliberately tried to undo it that (largely successfully, like getting rid of 'Merry Christmas' ) congratulations, you've been successfully tearing at the fabric of Western society in recent decades, just don't be surprised if an increasing number of people aren't happy about it...

  134. @anon
    OT?

    Virginia National Guardsman to VA Governor: "We will not comply" with unConstitutional gun grabs.

    https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/national-guardsman-we-will-not-comply-if-ordered-by-virginia-governor-to-arrest-police-confiscate-guns/

    In Milwaukee, the police will be barred from complying with any law that requires them to cooperate with ICE. I guess because this country is fundamentally not legit unless the Zeroeth Amendment is always obeyed.

    https://wisconsinmuslimjournal.org/fire-and-police-commission-approve-non-collaboration-policy-with-ice-a-victory-for-immigrants-and-milwaukee/

    Replies: @J.Ross

    To be clear, Second Amendment Sanctuaries predate immigration ones, and protect a non-negotiable, foundational principle of our law which ought not to need extra protections, while the immigration sanctuaries are law school graduates not understanding what the supremacy clause is. This is a situation where all fact, law, and right is 100% on our side, and the other guys just do not care, and they’re still coming. This is how violence starts. Let’s all hope that Bloomberg’s well-paid puppets collapse and back down before there are any deaths.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  135. @Hibernian
    @Reg Cæsar

    Their history with slavery was less than that of the British because they lost the Cape Colony to the British.

    Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    The Dutch role with slavery was small but nonetheless important, if not vital, by way of helping to create demand for more labor:

    Emmer estimates that despite their general economic strength, in the seventeenth century at least, the Dutch had only a relatively insignificant share in the Atlantic slave trade—never averaging much more than 5–6 per cent of the total. However, he argues that they did have a significant role in the development of the trade in the first half of the seventeenth century, not only through supplying their short-lived Brazilian colony with slaves, but, perhaps more importantly by stimulating the cultivation of sugar—with the consequent urgent need for slaves—in the French and English Caribbean. Then they turned to Spanish America, transporting around 100,000 slaves to this region by 1730. Nevertheless, the Dutch share of the trade as a whole remained relatively small. In a way the problem is not so much why the Dutch role in the Atlantic slave trade was so limited, but rather why they bothered with it at all, as the surviving evidence suggests that, as far as the Dutch were concerned, the economic returns of the slave trade were notably poor. Certainly, the second West India Company (after 1674) failed to make the trade pay, despite enjoying a monopoly until 1730. Admittedly there were a range of other problems dragging the WIC down, but opening the trade up does not seem to have led to a significant improvement in profitability. Indeed, this may be the reason why the economically ailing province of Zeeland played such a prominent part in this trade—merchants there had fewer alternative options, and there was always the hope of profit.

    https://reviews.history.ac.uk/review/545

  136. It’s not Jews it’s women. Nice White women. Like Mandy Powers Norrell. De m from SC. Accused circle game cadets in the Army Navy game of White power .

    She’s married and with kids. She’s White. A Southern belle Just look at her photos. No doubt she loathes her husband for betaness . And reflexively hates White men.

    There are a lot more nice White ladies than Soros types. And not even Come could sell New Coke. or Microsoft the Zune.

    • Disagree: Hail
    • Replies: @Sol
    @Whiskey

    Lawyer, SJW. Traitor to her people if her parents are natives of SC.

    Replies: @Hail

  137. Wont be buying gas at Shell again. Spread the word my fellow stale pale males.

  138. @Jack D
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    You still seem to think that the Jews are the "decisive" perpetrators of the con and that non-Jews serve in the role of the victim only - they fell for it because they are so trusting and naive and wonderful. I do not accept this - there are Jews and non-Jews on both sides of this, as perpetrators and victims, so if you focus on the Jews as being the sole perps then you are not seeing the big picture.

    Replies: @Hans, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Hans

    Still won’t admit Jewish complicity, eh, Jack.

    One thing I’ve always respected about Jews is their tenacity. Never give an inch. Never admit anything regardless of the evidence. It’s shocking how well it works. I’ve never figured out whether it’s a debating tactic or if you’re just a tad insane. Maybe both. Either way, it is tiresome. Hell, it even seems to tire out Jews! 😉

    As always, please re-read my comment. You’ll notice that I somewhat agree with you. (See how nice it is to debate people actually consider your side.) Gentile whites are in no way, shape or form “trusting and naive and wonderful.” Naturally, I never said that, indeed, the opposite. But what should one expect when conversing with Jack D.

    Gentile whites are the spoiled trust fund kids of the world. We despise the accomplishments of our forefathers even while living off of the fruits of their labor. We reject the culture and values that made our soft world possible. We are so lost as to believe the words of a people who openly hate us.

    You see, Jack, that’s the difference between us. When has Jack ever written honestly about Jews? You can’t. It’s just not in you. That helps you as a people, but it’s very tedious one on one. You’re boring Jack.

    Khag Urim Sameakh

  139. @S
    @syonredux


    Between 1596 and 1829, the Dutch transported about half a million Africans across the Atlantic.
     
    Indeed, it was a Dutch ship which unloaded it's unholy cargo of twenty or so slaves at Jamestown in 1619.

    According to Henry Carey, a chief economic adviser of Lincoln, the cheap labor/mass immigration system (already quite evident then in 1853 when he wrote this) was simply 'the slave trade of the last century on a grander scale', ie chattel slavery and it's trade was monetized (stream lined financially, the core essence of it remaining) and not abolished. Out of the frying pan and into the fire as it were.

    Appropriately enough, it was in 1869, some 250 years after chattel slaves were first introduced at Jamestown by a Dutch ship, that the Dutch 'labor contractor' Cornelius Koopmanschap was making a big splash with his declared intention to import one hundred thousand Chinese wage slaves (ie so called 'cheap laborer'/'coolies') directly into the United States.

    Koopmanschap, whose name in Dutch means 'commerce' or 'business', handled the North American distribution of the Chinese wage slaves as his business. He had been providing his services to the western railroad barons such as Stanford in California, but wished with this effort to branch out and expand his 'market' to the Southern plantation owners, who were said to be quite amiable to his proposal.

    Koopmanschap had a Hong Kong based business partner, Maurice Bosman, who handled the Asian procurement of the Chinese wage slaves. Bosman was at minimum half Jewish, if not wholly Jewish. [Bosman has an interesting history in Hong Kong if a person wishes to check further.]

    KOOPMANSCHAP; Who He Is, What He has Done, and What He Proposes to do, The Approaching Inundation of Chinese Coolies

    The New York Times (July 21, 1869) – Page 2

    It is only a few weeks ago that the name of KOOPMANSCHAP was unknown to fame. Suddenly it has emerged from the obscurity with which the appellations of ordinary mortals are surrounded and occupies a lofty nich within the nation’s fame. Everybody is asking, Who is KOOPMANSCHAP?
     
    Anyhow, for various reasons, Koopmanscap and Bosman's 1869 Chinese plans fell through with the plantation owners.

    As the Pall Mall Gazette of London in 1874 specifically identified, 'race' was the primary impediment that was getting in the way of such endeavors. At the time people in the United States, and Australia, weren't taking too kindly to being genocided via being 'mixed' out of existance due to some not wanting to pay the prevailing real time local costs of labor (ie railroad barons/plantation owners,etc) and others who profited by satiating this same greed (ie Koopmanschap/Bosman etc).

    So, yes, Dutch Shell sponsoring the 1619 project, and the ad featuring the 'mixed' racial results due to chattel and or wage slavery, which people are conditioned to now 'embrace' and 'celebrate' (or else!) rather than as in the past flee from, is entirely fitting.


    https://www.nytimes.com/1869/07/21/archives/koopmanschap-who-he-is-what-he-has-done-and-what-he-proposes-to-do.html

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Indeed, it was a Dutch ship which unloaded it’s unholy cargo of twenty or so slaves at Jamestown in 1619.

    How active were Jews in the trade and commerce of Amsterdam/Netherlands in this time period? Had they been emancipated?

    • Replies: @S
    @Anonymous


    How active were Jews in the trade and commerce of Amsterdam/Netherlands in this time period?
     
    According to Wiki regarding the Dutch Sephardim having come from Spain:

    The trade developed between the Dutch and Spanish South America was established by such Iberian Jews. They also contributed to establishing the Dutch West Indies Company in 1621, and some of them sat on its directorate.
     
    The Times of Israel says Dutch Jews controlled for a time 17% of Dutch trade in the Caribbean, not clarifying specifically if that was generic trade or the trade in slaves. It doesn't say specifically the years, though I believe they're referencing the 17th century.

    My guess is the Dutch ship which brought the slaves to Jamestown was most likely Dutch owned, though it may have been Jewish owned in whole or part. Who can say?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Netherlands

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/how-culpable-were-dutch-jews-in-the-slave-trade/

    Had they been emancipated?
     
    The brief excerpt at the link below describes an 'emancipation period' of 1787-1815 for Dutch Jews.

    https://www.questia.com/library/5036800/the-history-of-dutch-jewry-during-the-emancipation
  140. Anonymous[671] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @alt right moderate

    For a Weberian case: the phenomenon of Confederate statues triggering Asian and mestizo college kids (let alone the sparser black ones) -- what is the rationalized, materialist, cui bono objective? There isn't any, it's all mimetic/faddish status-striving which can go on "sustainably" well past the destruction of more than the statues.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    For a Weberian case: the phenomenon of Confederate statues triggering Asian and mestizo college kids (let alone the sparser black ones) — what is the rationalized, materialist, cui bono objective?

    Easy. The objective is the suppression and deterrence of White identity. A White identity group would be a threat (or rival) to these other identity groups.

  141. I am sure the event was so crowded that they had to turn people away at the entrance. Who doesn’t want to be lectured by a lady who looks at you like this?

  142. When I first read this, I thought it said, “It almost looks like a clown,” and I agreed.


    [MORE]

    Clowntime Is Over (Version 2)

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @MEH 0910

    Can't you imagine that peeking out of a storm drain?

  143. @Jack D
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    You still seem to think that the Jews are the "decisive" perpetrators of the con and that non-Jews serve in the role of the victim only - they fell for it because they are so trusting and naive and wonderful. I do not accept this - there are Jews and non-Jews on both sides of this, as perpetrators and victims, so if you focus on the Jews as being the sole perps then you are not seeing the big picture.

    Replies: @Hans, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Hans

    Yes, there are jews on both sides but we never hear from the ones on the other side outside of a handful. explain. thanks.

  144. @Hibernian
    @BannedHipster

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from? There are a lot of Catholic reactionary cranks like E. Michael Jones that blame “WASPs” and “Protestants” for most bad things, but they certainly have no mainstream political or social power and are relegated to the backwaters of the internet like most of us.

    American society is indelibly marked by the many years in which the neo-Calvinists had great power.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    We still do, we’ve just learned not to draw much attention to ourselves. If you’d like to meet us, the Fine Arts are a decent place:

    • Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    @Desiderius

    In what sense is this snark supposed to prove anything about Calvinist influence in this country?

    As far as modern influence on the fine arts, where's the beef? That was a performance of an 18th century musical piece. Not especially recent.

    Moreover, it was conducted by a Jew (Martin Pearlman). If anything, this shows how you Calvinists have lost the headship of your own patrimony. Your patrimony, such as it is, is conducted by the Jews, for better or worse.

    (Nothing against Pearlman, of course, in the individual sense. He is a fine conductor.)

    Replies: @Desiderius

  145. @nebulafox
    @Citizen of a Silly Country

    You give our elites too much credit: they are far too mentally limited for this. There is no organized, coherent plan beyond their present petty whims.

    "Apres moi, le deluge" is what is implicitly at work here.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Citizen of a Silly Country, @Desiderius, @Jack Henson, @The Wild Geese Howard

    I’ll be the umpteenth person to say, “a little from column A, a little from column B.”

    Overall, the group of elites is like a school of fish. They will tend to swim in the same direction because it helps them achieve their goals and deviation from the overall direction is harmful to the individual fish.

    However, there are definitely individual fish within the school that have their own highly detailed and organized plans. George Soros is the example that immediately springs to mind.

  146. Proposal:

    Parody New York Times 1619 magazine cover with Rachel Dolezal’s grinning face emblazoned on it.

  147. @Anonymous
    @Desiderius


    No. He’s not.

    This is exactly what is happening, and why.
     
    Nope. Corporations aren’t the prime movers. Racial groups seeking to conquer Whites are, and they have created incentives through media for corporations to do their bidding.

    Replies: @Rosie

    Racial groups seeking to conquer Whites are, and they have created incentives through media for corporations to do their bidding.

    Corporate elites despise the nation-state. They are all too happy to use non-White grievances to guilt-trip Whites into surrendering to globalization.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Rosie

    Rosie making us all proud.

    For better or worse Blacks can't conquer their own neighborhoods. If you're worried about Blacks you're as dimwitted as that Yale Misosophist clown. 5 billion blacks are a problem. Ronald McDonald-Jones isn't.

    Wokeness is almost exclusively a post-white thing, with the minimum necessary NAM mascots and various Asian hangers-on who may well eventually leverage it to some sort of dominance. Long before that the West will get the rest of its shit together to prevent it.

    Already happening.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Anonymous
    @Rosie


    Corporate elites despise the nation-state.
     
    “Corporate elites.” Point them out to us. I think you are trafficking in voodoo, phantoms. The world is moved by actual people.

    Replies: @Rosie

  148. @Rosie
    @Anonymous


    Racial groups seeking to conquer Whites are, and they have created incentives through media for corporations to do their bidding.
     
    Corporate elites despise the nation-state. They are all too happy to use non-White grievances to guilt-trip Whites into surrendering to globalization.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anonymous

    Rosie making us all proud.

    For better or worse Blacks can’t conquer their own neighborhoods. If you’re worried about Blacks you’re as dimwitted as that Yale Misosophist clown. 5 billion blacks are a problem. Ronald McDonald-Jones isn’t.

    Wokeness is almost exclusively a post-white thing, with the minimum necessary NAM mascots and various Asian hangers-on who may well eventually leverage it to some sort of dominance. Long before that the West will get the rest of its shit together to prevent it.

    Already happening.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Desiderius


    For better or worse Blacks can’t conquer their own neighborhoods. If you’re worried about Blacks you’re as dimwitted as that Yale Misosophist clown. 5 billion blacks are a problem. Ronald McDonald-Jones isn’t.
     
    Tell that to the millions of Whites who fled their homes over the past 50 years to escape black violence and other antisocial behavior. Tell that to Democrat primary voters and candidates.

    Replies: @Rosie

  149. @Anon
    Deep down, people who want to be scolded and treated like dirt have a powerful biological craving to move to the bottom of the pecking order, and they're constantly looking around for someone who will put them there. They're masochists. Liberals are masochists. The average white liberal gets a real thrill out of a big, mean, black dominatrix scolding them for being bad.

    I strongly recommend that conservatives bring back spanking in schools as a punishment--but for liberal students only. It means that liberals would start fixating on and worshipping what conservatives say to get their emotional high. In other words, after a stout caning, liberals will be soon learn to recognize conservatives as their master, and they'll start shrieking, "Yes, sir, please may I have another?" and promising to obey everything conservatives say or do. It'll bring a lot of liberals to heel pretty quickly if conservatives work to establish dominance and maintain a pecking order with liberals at the bottom. Conservatives have failed to do this in the last couple of generations, which is why liberals kick up such a fuss about how they want to be treated like dirt and they aren't getting it. They keep looking around for someone to punish them.

    Liberals have a whole fantasy life of 'the Evil Conservative,' which they relish and love to linger over. They label everyone who disagrees Evil Conservatives because they're trying to provoke retaliation from other people to get the punishment they crave. And Conservatives are being real sadists when they say no, and behave in a live-and-let-live way. Liberals just hate this. The main reason why they're fixated on Trump is because Trump is a dominant, brusque male. Liberals are attacking him because he fits their fantasy of the perfect dominant male, and they want him to retaliate and put them in their place. They don't get that masochistic emotional high unless he does. Trump being live-and-let-live and let's-all-be-adults-here-and-behave-like-reasonable-people just drives them nuts and negates their fantasy.

    This is why liberal white women melt at the thought of violent black males, Hispanics, and Mideastern terrorists dominating them. Conservatives are not playing their biologically-ordained role as masters on top of the pecking order, and this has created much discontent at the bottom of the social order, which is begging to be curbed. People with the mentality of slaves hate freedom. This is one reason why liberals hate free speech, and despise those who don't want a nanny state.

    Replies: @anonymous

    “I strongly recommend that conservatives bring back spanking in schools as a punishment–but for liberal students only.”

    Anon, you and Tiny Duck appear to share some interests…may I suggest “The Diary of Wackford Squeers” for some interesting bed time reading.

  150. @MEH 0910

    When I first read this, I thought it said, “It almost looks like a clown,” and I agreed.
     
    https://twitter.com/vg_waymer/status/1171051930661138434

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEBphokXkAAscAE.jpg

    Clowntime Is Over (Version 2)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1tsLzynQrU

    Replies: @anonymous

    Can’t you imagine that peeking out of a storm drain?

  151. @Rosie
    @Anonymous


    Racial groups seeking to conquer Whites are, and they have created incentives through media for corporations to do their bidding.
     
    Corporate elites despise the nation-state. They are all too happy to use non-White grievances to guilt-trip Whites into surrendering to globalization.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Anonymous

    Corporate elites despise the nation-state.

    “Corporate elites.” Point them out to us. I think you are trafficking in voodoo, phantoms. The world is moved by actual people.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Anonymous


    “Corporate elites.” Point them out to us. I think you are trafficking in voodoo, phantoms. The world is moved by actual people.
     
    The world is moved by $$$, and I assume "actual people" aree involved in deciding who gets it.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/companies-are-influencing-politics-by-donating-millions-to-politicians-2018-9
  152. Anon[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Anon

    This cuts both ways. My SIL is an academic and she married back in the day when it was normal to change your name. Then later she got divorced but she had to keep her ex-husband's last name because all of her publications were under that name. In general, you don't want to be changing your name in academia because it will mess up your publication record. I'm sure there's an exception for trannies.

    Replies: @Anon

    you don’t want to be changing your name in academia because it will mess up your publication record

    The web pages that I read when researching this pointed out that when you apply for tenure and the like you supply a list of your publications in your CV. Also, there is apparently a sort of unique author number these days, a code that you are assigned, that remains constant throughout name changes, inconsistent use of initials, and occasional use of nicknames. It’s called the ORCID (open researcher and contributor ID).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORCID

    This is like an ISBN or UPC for people, “to resolve the author name ambiguity problem in scholarly communication.” This is still taking off and is not universally used, but it should solve the problem in the future. Online research search engines could automatically throw up suggestions, like “Show also results for …?” or “May be the same researcher as …, display these results also?”

    I really got the feeling that the main problem was, believe it or not, feminism and expected behaviors of progressive people. Women academics hate other women who get married and change their names (and have babies and who aren’t lesbians or trans). Men academics only want their wives to change their names, not their colleagues.

  153. Anonymous[671] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius
    @Rosie

    Rosie making us all proud.

    For better or worse Blacks can't conquer their own neighborhoods. If you're worried about Blacks you're as dimwitted as that Yale Misosophist clown. 5 billion blacks are a problem. Ronald McDonald-Jones isn't.

    Wokeness is almost exclusively a post-white thing, with the minimum necessary NAM mascots and various Asian hangers-on who may well eventually leverage it to some sort of dominance. Long before that the West will get the rest of its shit together to prevent it.

    Already happening.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    For better or worse Blacks can’t conquer their own neighborhoods. If you’re worried about Blacks you’re as dimwitted as that Yale Misosophist clown. 5 billion blacks are a problem. Ronald McDonald-Jones isn’t.

    Tell that to the millions of Whites who fled their homes over the past 50 years to escape black violence and other antisocial behavior. Tell that to Democrat primary voters and candidates.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    @Anonymous


    Tell that to the millions of Whites who fled their homes over the past 50 years to escape black violence and other antisocial behavior. Tell that to Democrat primary voters and candidates.
     
    You miss the point entirely. It is precisely the political class that empowered blacks to do that.
  154. @Anonymous
    OT:

    Hippie guru Ram Dass deceaserized at 88.

    Replies: @peterike

    Hippie guru Ram Dass deceaserized at 88.

    Ram Dass was born Richard Alpert. As per wiki, “Alpert was born to a Jewish family in Newton, Massachusetts.”

    Of course he was.

  155. There will be militias in open revolt against state governments and Steve will be blogging about fucking golf courses vs. Acknowledging the unpleasant truth.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Jack Henson

    Any Administration, of either party, will immediately Federalize any State National Guard on the verge of mutiny. What happens after that is anyone's guess.

    Replies: @Louis Renault

  156. @BannedHipster
    This is a question on the neo-right-wing. The "neo-reactionary" movement of Curtis Yarvin and Jim Donald says that multinational corporations like Shell, and their CEOs, have no power, are only interested in money, and go "woke" to appease the State that forces them to promote Social Justice Warriorism, LGBT-ism, and racial diversity.

    Instead, the neo-reactionaries claim that "wokeness" is a product of post-Christian - even post-Calvinist - white descendants of the Puritans. Harvard started as a Puritan seminary and just evolved into "wokeness" as they dropped the actual religion of Christianity and took up "Progressive Idealism" which is nothing but a secular form of Calvinist Christianity.

    Neo-reaction is very protective of what they call "merchants" meaning capitalists, big business, and the Fortune 500. And they are very concerned with "anti-semitism" seeing anti-semitism as a way to blame Jews for leftism and progressivism which is really promoted by post-Christian liberals.

    Of course, our host Ron Unz has thoroughly debunked the idea that Harvard specifically, and the Ivy League in general, are actually run by post-Calvinists whites and "WASPs."

    Most dissident rightists at least acknowledge that "Conservative Inc." and their funders like the Koch brothers and their organs like the CATO Institute have a "cheap-labor" interest in mass immigration.

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from? There are a lot of Catholic reactionary cranks like E. Michael Jones that blame "WASPs" and "Protestants" for most bad things, but they certainly have no mainstream political or social power and are relegated to the backwaters of the internet like most of us.

    I have my opinions but I'm willing to entertain the argument. What is the driving force behind Fortune 500 "wokeness?" Are the Fortune 500 companies promoting mass immigration and diversity for cheap labor, to stave off lawsuits over "racism and diversity," or perhaps bad publicity?

    Surely no one can argue that the rich, the corporate class, the Fortune 500 CEOs, hedge fund managers, etc., have no political power. The mass media are themselves Fortune 500 companies.

    So what drives corporate "wokeness?" It's an open question.

    Replies: @Charles, @eugyppius, @Anonymous, @dfordoom, @Hibernian, @Monsieur le Baron, @Faraday's Bobcat, @FPD72, @RW

    As a regional director in one of the three largest property and casualty insurance companies in America, I attended a national directors’ conference. During the meeting, the president spoke proudly of the company’s diverse board of directors and then reviewed the CVs of each of them. Every one of them attended northeastern private universities. Every one of them lived in New York or New England. They were as educationally diverse as bowling pins; they were almost clones, with a few directors having darker skins than the rest.

    After the meeting I went up to the president and cited the lack of educational and geographical diversity. “What about the type of people who worked their way through the University of Missouri washing dishes and then went on to have highly successful careers? Do you think they might have a different set of life experiences and different perspectives?” I asked him.

    He blinked at me, stammered a few words, and dismissed me.

    I would rather see our companies run by people who graduated from Michigan State, Texas Tech, Auburn, Cal Poly, and Utah than a bunch of pampered freaks who have liberal arts degrees from elite private schools and have never done a day of physical labor in their lives, but it’s the latter who are sitting on the boards of most companies.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @FPD72

    You’re right on this bullshit diversity:

    https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1208949234017415169?s=20

    But dead wrong on the Liberal Arts.

    You’d be far better off if they did have Liberal Arts degrees. It’s ignorance of the Liberal Arts which has left the door wide open for SJW con artists to take over, usually invited right in by conservatives who haven’t conserved a damn thing.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @The Wild Geese Howard

  157. @Hail

    Sponsored by Shell
     
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMcakmBUwAE3nLf.png

    It almost looks like a crown.

    Replies: @Father O'Hara, @Anon, @PiltdownMan, @South Texas Guy, @MikeatMikedotMike, @El Dato, @TWS, @Anonymous, @Oswald Spengler

    “We wuz quanz!”

  158. @Dieter Kief
    @RichardTaylor


    I’m all for free markets, but yes, over time companies “want” to turn every country into a profit center under administrative control that benefits them.

    Maybe that’s why citizens are supposed to set boundaries?
     

    I tend to go as far as to claim that we need politics in such situations.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    I tend to go as far as to claim that we need politics in such situations.

    Hey buddy, you’re about to lose your libertarian membership card! 🙂

    • LOL: Dieter Kief
  159. @Riccy
    @eugyppius

    Nah. It's just plain old Satanism. Worship of raw power, evil, the ugly, and pure joy of destroying what God has wrought. AS IF. This is what you get when Christ is removed from the world, and people get enough wealth to entertain their evil fantasies. No Deplorable is hurting any of the elites who are behind these operations against them. This is war against Christ, and people who THEY perceive as Christian and Good. People who do not believe these elites and their minions can create reality, turn human beings into fungible sexbots and children into main courses and "entertainment".

    Replies: @eugyppius

    Nah. It’s just plain old Satanism.

    The problem with the “it’s just evil” thesis is that it’s less an explanation of what’s happening, than it is a statement of how you feel about it. Out there in the world of power, people are implementing plans to accomplish very specific goals, and we have no hope of defeating them if we don’t understand what they are trying to do.

    No Deplorable is hurting any of the elites who are behind these operations against them.

    I don’t claim that class analysis is the only way to understand politics, but in the modern world it’s proven remarkably effective. Also, our opponents think in these terms, so I think we should too.

    The white working and middle classes (I will call them the Natives) are “hurting” the new managerial elites (the Managers) in much the same way that organized labor “hurt” the capitalists in days of yore. The Natives oppose the plans and goals of Managers in many routine aspects of their daily existence. They vote against their policies. A great deal of this opposition is obscured because everything has been done to stifle the political will of the Natives and keep their true sentiments out of sight and out of the media. As a result the confusion here is boundless: The Managers have an instinctive hatred for the Natives but even many of them have no real insight as to why; the Natives feel the hatred and exclusion but find it baffling and, as you write, evil. As a mental experiment, though, imagine that the US established tomorrow a direct democracy in which referenda could be proposed by anyone, upvoted and legally enacted by some simple internet mechanism. Oh, and by some miracle only the Natives were allowed to participate. What would happen? The Natives would shut down mass immigration and perhaps get repatriation programs up and running, they would enact protectionist trade policies, they would do whatever else was necessary to bring back domestic industry, they would end our foreign military adventures tout court and perhaps even redeploy the army domestically, against invasion from the south; and they would do all of this whatever the consequences for GDP.

    That is basically the nightmare scenario for the Managers, who want their corporations to have access to all markets everywhere, who maximize profits in large part by driving wages downwards, who simply want to ensure optimal conditions for the consumption of their cheap plastic garbage. And so the Managers regard the Natives like the sword of Damocles hanging over their head, an ever-present danger that they wish to sideline or eliminate.

    As elites go, the Managers are new and insecure. Like all elites, they need roots in the society, a base of support, but they are detached urban bureaucrats, newly arrived on the scene in the 20th century following changes to the way capital was managed in mass society. They are at best ignored and at worst despised by the Natives. Thus their alliance with and eager promotion of the new serf class, the racial minorities and mass immigrants that capital originally brought on the scene to reduce labor costs, but that the Managers now eye as allies, the perfect people to play the peasants to their lords in the new corporate feudalism they hope to enact. In their fever dreams, the Managers envision presiding over a two-tier society, where they sit at the top, and everyone else toils among the serfs beneath them. The Natives, accustomed to far better conditions, will never go along with this vision, so they must be at best leveled out (immiserated until their expectations equate with those of the third-world populations right now so eagerly imported) or replaced (bred out of existence by the same imported third-world populations).

    This is war against Christ, and people who THEY perceive as Christian and Good.

    We’re not going to get out of this until religion is re-established in the west at least as firmly as it is in the Islamic world right now. That said, it is worth at least a few moments of introspection to ponder how easily the universalist message of Christianity has been aligned with the program of the Managers. Western religion has not helped us repel the invaders. First in the colonial period and now in the era of inverted colonialism it has done the opposite, namely convinced Western Christian populations that the whole world is their responsibility and/or that the whole world is entitled to their culture, their society and their politics. And while there are traditionalist nativist strains of Christianity out there, the vast majority of Christians today, including all of the major churches and institutions, have not only fallen in line with the managerial agenda, but become some of its loudest advocates. They are at the front of this clown column piping us all into the river. And so, while I understand your sentiment that this is a “war against Christ,” I don’t really think that stands up to analysis. Christianity writ large is totally on board with the managerial project. It wants what the Managers want.

    • Agree: Cowboy shaw
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @eugyppius

    The problem with the “it’s just evil” thesis is that it’s less an explanation of what’s happening, than it is a statement of how you feel about it. Out there in the world of power, people are implementing plans to accomplish very specific goals, and we have no hope of defeating them if we don’t understand what they are trying to do.

    Sometimes it is Satanism. Just another Jewish mode of worship AFAICT, another form of mind control like Christianity or Communism.

    https://youtu.be/mK4k80Eaw24

    , @James J. O'Meara
    @eugyppius

    "The problem with the “it’s just evil” thesis is that it’s less an explanation of what’s happening, than it is a statement of how you feel about it"

    Someone should tattoo that on Fuentes' forehead.

    , @James J. O'Meara
    @eugyppius

    "That said, it is worth at least a few moments of introspection to ponder how easily the universalist message of Christianity has been aligned with the program of the Managers. Western religion has not helped us repel the invaders. First in the colonial period and now in the era of inverted colonialism it has done the opposite, namely convinced Western Christian populations that the whole world is their responsibility and/or that the whole world is entitled to their culture, their society and their politics. And while there are traditionalist nativist strains of Christianity out there, the vast majority of Christians today, including all of the major churches and institutions, have not only fallen in line with the managerial agenda, but become some of its loudest advocates. They are at the front of this clown column piping us all into the river. And so, while I understand your sentiment that this is a “war against Christ,” I don’t really think that stands up to analysis. Christianity writ large is totally on board with the managerial project. It wants what the Managers want."

    This should be tattooed on E. Michael Jones' forehead. If conservatives in general, and Evangelicals in particular, weren't so bloody stupid, they would have seen that the Higher Criticism (yes, I heard an Evangelical ranting last night about how the moral rot set in with Wellhausen) was their friend.

    Admittedly, the discovery that the Bible was fictional did lead people to promote the Social Gospel (hence, liberalism up to and including Drag Queen Story Hour), but conservatives could have countered by taking the route of Neville Goddard or Alan Watts, and retconned the Bible as purely mystical or, if you prefer, psychological. This would have knocked the props out from under the "we're all brothers" moralism -- and Zionism too, by the way.

    For more on Watts and Goddard, see my book, Magick for Housewives (not banned by Amazon)

  160. @FPD72
    @BannedHipster

    As a regional director in one of the three largest property and casualty insurance companies in America, I attended a national directors’ conference. During the meeting, the president spoke proudly of the company’s diverse board of directors and then reviewed the CVs of each of them. Every one of them attended northeastern private universities. Every one of them lived in New York or New England. They were as educationally diverse as bowling pins; they were almost clones, with a few directors having darker skins than the rest.

    After the meeting I went up to the president and cited the lack of educational and geographical diversity. “What about the type of people who worked their way through the University of Missouri washing dishes and then went on to have highly successful careers? Do you think they might have a different set of life experiences and different perspectives?” I asked him.

    He blinked at me, stammered a few words, and dismissed me.

    I would rather see our companies run by people who graduated from Michigan State, Texas Tech, Auburn, Cal Poly, and Utah than a bunch of pampered freaks who have liberal arts degrees from elite private schools and have never done a day of physical labor in their lives, but it’s the latter who are sitting on the boards of most companies.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    You’re right on this bullshit diversity:

    https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1208949234017415169?s=20

    But dead wrong on the Liberal Arts.

    You’d be far better off if they did have Liberal Arts degrees. It’s ignorance of the Liberal Arts which has left the door wide open for SJW con artists to take over, usually invited right in by conservatives who haven’t conserved a damn thing.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Desiderius

    The foot soldiers of destruction, lawyers, social workers, etc., are trained in pseudo Liberal Arts, such as psych and soc, but also highly corrupted poi sci, history philosophy, and theology.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Desiderius


    You’d be far better off if they did have Liberal Arts degrees.
     
    So they should have wasted $150k on an education they could have gotten for a $1.50 in late fees at the public library?

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Desiderius

  161. @Bay Area Guy
    @alt right moderate


    The upper-middle class tend to benefit from international bureaucracy, neoliberal economics, PC speech codes, and mass immigration.
     
    Agreed.

    So much of this Great Awokening nonsense can be attributed to intra-white class warfare. At the end of the day, CEOs and other affluent professionals can live with engaging in some white self-flagellation. After all, they're rich, and can always retreat back to their blessed lives after throwing their people under the bus.

    Regular white working stiffs, on the other hand, don't enjoy such a luxury.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    They’re not flagellating themselves, they’re flagellating you.

    • Replies: @Bay Area Guy
    @Desiderius

    Right, in the sense that they have no attachment to their white background, and only champion their identity as rich people. However, I suspect that even for those who are somewhat conscious of their race, engaging in ritual self-abasement is a small price to pay for retaining actual privilege and power.

  162. Anonymous[412] • Disclaimer says:
    @eugyppius
    @Riccy


    Nah. It’s just plain old Satanism.
     
    The problem with the "it's just evil" thesis is that it's less an explanation of what's happening, than it is a statement of how you feel about it. Out there in the world of power, people are implementing plans to accomplish very specific goals, and we have no hope of defeating them if we don't understand what they are trying to do.

    No Deplorable is hurting any of the elites who are behind these operations against them.
     
    I don't claim that class analysis is the only way to understand politics, but in the modern world it's proven remarkably effective. Also, our opponents think in these terms, so I think we should too.

    The white working and middle classes (I will call them the Natives) are "hurting" the new managerial elites (the Managers) in much the same way that organized labor "hurt" the capitalists in days of yore. The Natives oppose the plans and goals of Managers in many routine aspects of their daily existence. They vote against their policies. A great deal of this opposition is obscured because everything has been done to stifle the political will of the Natives and keep their true sentiments out of sight and out of the media. As a result the confusion here is boundless: The Managers have an instinctive hatred for the Natives but even many of them have no real insight as to why; the Natives feel the hatred and exclusion but find it baffling and, as you write, evil. As a mental experiment, though, imagine that the US established tomorrow a direct democracy in which referenda could be proposed by anyone, upvoted and legally enacted by some simple internet mechanism. Oh, and by some miracle only the Natives were allowed to participate. What would happen? The Natives would shut down mass immigration and perhaps get repatriation programs up and running, they would enact protectionist trade policies, they would do whatever else was necessary to bring back domestic industry, they would end our foreign military adventures tout court and perhaps even redeploy the army domestically, against invasion from the south; and they would do all of this whatever the consequences for GDP.

    That is basically the nightmare scenario for the Managers, who want their corporations to have access to all markets everywhere, who maximize profits in large part by driving wages downwards, who simply want to ensure optimal conditions for the consumption of their cheap plastic garbage. And so the Managers regard the Natives like the sword of Damocles hanging over their head, an ever-present danger that they wish to sideline or eliminate.

    As elites go, the Managers are new and insecure. Like all elites, they need roots in the society, a base of support, but they are detached urban bureaucrats, newly arrived on the scene in the 20th century following changes to the way capital was managed in mass society. They are at best ignored and at worst despised by the Natives. Thus their alliance with and eager promotion of the new serf class, the racial minorities and mass immigrants that capital originally brought on the scene to reduce labor costs, but that the Managers now eye as allies, the perfect people to play the peasants to their lords in the new corporate feudalism they hope to enact. In their fever dreams, the Managers envision presiding over a two-tier society, where they sit at the top, and everyone else toils among the serfs beneath them. The Natives, accustomed to far better conditions, will never go along with this vision, so they must be at best leveled out (immiserated until their expectations equate with those of the third-world populations right now so eagerly imported) or replaced (bred out of existence by the same imported third-world populations).


    This is war against Christ, and people who THEY perceive as Christian and Good.
     
    We're not going to get out of this until religion is re-established in the west at least as firmly as it is in the Islamic world right now. That said, it is worth at least a few moments of introspection to ponder how easily the universalist message of Christianity has been aligned with the program of the Managers. Western religion has not helped us repel the invaders. First in the colonial period and now in the era of inverted colonialism it has done the opposite, namely convinced Western Christian populations that the whole world is their responsibility and/or that the whole world is entitled to their culture, their society and their politics. And while there are traditionalist nativist strains of Christianity out there, the vast majority of Christians today, including all of the major churches and institutions, have not only fallen in line with the managerial agenda, but become some of its loudest advocates. They are at the front of this clown column piping us all into the river. And so, while I understand your sentiment that this is a "war against Christ," I don't really think that stands up to analysis. Christianity writ large is totally on board with the managerial project. It wants what the Managers want.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @James J. O'Meara, @James J. O'Meara

    The problem with the “it’s just evil” thesis is that it’s less an explanation of what’s happening, than it is a statement of how you feel about it. Out there in the world of power, people are implementing plans to accomplish very specific goals, and we have no hope of defeating them if we don’t understand what they are trying to do.

    Sometimes it is Satanism. Just another Jewish mode of worship AFAICT, another form of mind control like Christianity or Communism.

  163. @BannedHipster
    This is a question on the neo-right-wing. The "neo-reactionary" movement of Curtis Yarvin and Jim Donald says that multinational corporations like Shell, and their CEOs, have no power, are only interested in money, and go "woke" to appease the State that forces them to promote Social Justice Warriorism, LGBT-ism, and racial diversity.

    Instead, the neo-reactionaries claim that "wokeness" is a product of post-Christian - even post-Calvinist - white descendants of the Puritans. Harvard started as a Puritan seminary and just evolved into "wokeness" as they dropped the actual religion of Christianity and took up "Progressive Idealism" which is nothing but a secular form of Calvinist Christianity.

    Neo-reaction is very protective of what they call "merchants" meaning capitalists, big business, and the Fortune 500. And they are very concerned with "anti-semitism" seeing anti-semitism as a way to blame Jews for leftism and progressivism which is really promoted by post-Christian liberals.

    Of course, our host Ron Unz has thoroughly debunked the idea that Harvard specifically, and the Ivy League in general, are actually run by post-Calvinists whites and "WASPs."

    Most dissident rightists at least acknowledge that "Conservative Inc." and their funders like the Koch brothers and their organs like the CATO Institute have a "cheap-labor" interest in mass immigration.

    But where does the specific anti-whiteness come from? There are a lot of Catholic reactionary cranks like E. Michael Jones that blame "WASPs" and "Protestants" for most bad things, but they certainly have no mainstream political or social power and are relegated to the backwaters of the internet like most of us.

    I have my opinions but I'm willing to entertain the argument. What is the driving force behind Fortune 500 "wokeness?" Are the Fortune 500 companies promoting mass immigration and diversity for cheap labor, to stave off lawsuits over "racism and diversity," or perhaps bad publicity?

    Surely no one can argue that the rich, the corporate class, the Fortune 500 CEOs, hedge fund managers, etc., have no political power. The mass media are themselves Fortune 500 companies.

    So what drives corporate "wokeness?" It's an open question.

    Replies: @Charles, @eugyppius, @Anonymous, @dfordoom, @Hibernian, @Monsieur le Baron, @Faraday's Bobcat, @FPD72, @RW

    I have my opinions but I’m willing to entertain the argument. What is the driving force behind Fortune 500 “wokeness?” Are the Fortune 500 companies promoting mass immigration and diversity for cheap labor, to stave off lawsuits over “racism and diversity,” or perhaps bad publicity?

    Peter Frost gives a good answer this question in his now famous essay “The Emerging Synthesis in Humanbiodiversity” http://evoandproud.blogspot.com/2015/01/sometimes-consensus-is-phony.html :

    “To stave off unrest, economic systems require legitimacy, and legitimacy is made possible by ideology: a vision of a better future; how we can get there from here; and why we’re not getting there despite the best efforts. Economic systems don’t create ideology, but they do create conditions that favor some ideologies over others. With the collapse of the old left in the late 1980s, and the rise of market globalization, antiracism found a new purpose … as a source of legitimacy for the globalist project.

    “With the disintegration of the old socialist left, antiracists were freer to follow their natural inclinations, first by replacing class politics with identity politics, and second by making common cause with the political right, especially for the project of creating a globalized economy. Antiracism became a means to a new end.

    “This is the context that now frames the war on racism. For people in a position to influence public policy, antiracism is not only a moral imperative but also an economic one. It makes the difference between a sluggish return on investment of only 2 to 3% (which is typical in a mature economy) and a much higher one.”

  164. @Desiderius
    @Hibernian

    We still do, we've just learned not to draw much attention to ourselves. If you'd like to meet us, the Fine Arts are a decent place:

    https://youtu.be/JH3T6YwwU9s

    Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    In what sense is this snark supposed to prove anything about Calvinist influence in this country?

    As far as modern influence on the fine arts, where’s the beef? That was a performance of an 18th century musical piece. Not especially recent.

    Moreover, it was conducted by a Jew (Martin Pearlman). If anything, this shows how you Calvinists have lost the headship of your own patrimony. Your patrimony, such as it is, is conducted by the Jews, for better or worse.

    (Nothing against Pearlman, of course, in the individual sense. He is a fine conductor.)

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    One Jewish conductor among the ten or twelve outstanding ones I’ve enjoyed, including my beloved wife. We sit on the school boards deciding to inject that 1619 poison into the blood of our communities, the hospital boards deciding to import untold numbers of Indian and Arab doctors and promote woefully under-qualified minorities, the church sessions and Presbyteries who call ministers of neither Word nor Sacrament to shepherd our congregations into ignorance and feckless impotence, on corporate boards who sell out both patrimony and posterity in the name of profit and progtardism.

    We’ve got power alright. I’ve seen it first-hand and been on the receiving end more than once. Keep yammering about Jews and Blacks and it will only get worse.

  165. @Reg Cæsar
    @SFG


    Basically, nationalism can serve as a check (from the right) on corporations, so important to weaken it.
     
    As was the Church, once. Nationalists tend to forget that.

    Or maybe not. The First Commandment interferes with the worship of the nation they espouse. So, as do the socialists, they see it as a rival.


    https://talkbusiness.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/10commandmentsmonument.jpg

    Replies: @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan

    So, as do the socialists, they see it as a rival.

    You raise an interesting point, but, it ultimately depends on which nationalist group we’re talking about. Certainly the National Socialists seem to have seen Christianity – both the “Church” and the Protestants – as rivals. On the other hand, every Spanish Catholic I’ve ever known (as well as some wealthier or more aristocratic South Americans) happily celebrated Victory Day, which to them signified General Franco’s victory over the communists.

    There have been plenty of other Catholic integralist-nationalist movements. Also, in the East, there are pretty few Slavic nationalists who see the “Church” as a rival. Of course, the East also has a different ecclesiology, but, still.

  166. @Jack Henson
    There will be militias in open revolt against state governments and Steve will be blogging about fucking golf courses vs. Acknowledging the unpleasant truth.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Any Administration, of either party, will immediately Federalize any State National Guard on the verge of mutiny. What happens after that is anyone’s guess.

    • Replies: @Louis Renault
    @Hibernian

    Yes, but the militias referred to are not national guard units.

  167. @Desiderius
    @FPD72

    You’re right on this bullshit diversity:

    https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1208949234017415169?s=20

    But dead wrong on the Liberal Arts.

    You’d be far better off if they did have Liberal Arts degrees. It’s ignorance of the Liberal Arts which has left the door wide open for SJW con artists to take over, usually invited right in by conservatives who haven’t conserved a damn thing.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @The Wild Geese Howard

    The foot soldiers of destruction, lawyers, social workers, etc., are trained in pseudo Liberal Arts, such as psych and soc, but also highly corrupted poi sci, history philosophy, and theology.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Hibernian

    They’re pseudo because conservative geniuses told the best and brightest to all go into STEM and finance, leaving the field wide open for charlatans, hall monitors, and halfwits.

    Both in terms of what is taught and how.

  168. @anon
    @eugyppius

    Well stated...Another factor effecting the class dynamics in America is the tumbling birth rates among whites , thus the white working class population is now very small compared to 50 years ago. Back in 1970 we still employed 10 million factory workers in America , mostly whites.

    One example is manufacturing jobs, which in 1970 employed 1 in 3 white people and today employs one in 16 whites. Millions of American men once worked making steel and cars. Today very few White men are working in traditional blue collar jobs. Many jobs which were once union and paid decent wages are now at minimum wage.

    Back in the 70s the teamsters still controlled most of the shipping, warehouses, truck drivers were mostly teamsters, mostly white guys. in 1980 a Teamster unloading Trucks was earning $95,000 per. Today such jobs pay just $30,000 per year with no benefits at Amazon and many other warehouses across America.

    One reason Walmart was kept out of Pennsylvania and New Jersey until 1995 was due to the Unions. The unions lost political power for several reasons, one being less and less union jobs, which reduced the unions political power. It really is a numbers game. Back in 1980 there were 3 million Teamsters, today they have half the numbers of Teamsters , despite the growth of trucking and shipping, the numbers of Teamster members have fallen significantly.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @eugyppius, @Gordo

    Well stated…Another factor effecting the class dynamics in America is the tumbling birth rates among whites ,

    Whites don’t breed well in captivity.

  169. @Anonymous
    @S


    Indeed, it was a Dutch ship which unloaded it’s unholy cargo of twenty or so slaves at Jamestown in 1619.
     
    How active were Jews in the trade and commerce of Amsterdam/Netherlands in this time period? Had they been emancipated?

    Replies: @S

    How active were Jews in the trade and commerce of Amsterdam/Netherlands in this time period?

    According to Wiki regarding the Dutch Sephardim having come from Spain:

    The trade developed between the Dutch and Spanish South America was established by such Iberian Jews. They also contributed to establishing the Dutch West Indies Company in 1621, and some of them sat on its directorate.

    The Times of Israel says Dutch Jews controlled for a time 17% of Dutch trade in the Caribbean, not clarifying specifically if that was generic trade or the trade in slaves. It doesn’t say specifically the years, though I believe they’re referencing the 17th century.

    My guess is the Dutch ship which brought the slaves to Jamestown was most likely Dutch owned, though it may have been Jewish owned in whole or part. Who can say?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Netherlands

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/how-culpable-were-dutch-jews-in-the-slave-trade/

    Had they been emancipated?

    The brief excerpt at the link below describes an ’emancipation period’ of 1787-1815 for Dutch Jews.

    https://www.questia.com/library/5036800/the-history-of-dutch-jewry-during-the-emancipation

  170. @Hibernian
    @Desiderius

    The foot soldiers of destruction, lawyers, social workers, etc., are trained in pseudo Liberal Arts, such as psych and soc, but also highly corrupted poi sci, history philosophy, and theology.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    They’re pseudo because conservative geniuses told the best and brightest to all go into STEM and finance, leaving the field wide open for charlatans, hall monitors, and halfwits.

    Both in terms of what is taught and how.

  171. @Hibernian
    @Jack Henson

    Any Administration, of either party, will immediately Federalize any State National Guard on the verge of mutiny. What happens after that is anyone's guess.

    Replies: @Louis Renault

    Yes, but the militias referred to are not national guard units.

  172. @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan
    @Desiderius

    In what sense is this snark supposed to prove anything about Calvinist influence in this country?

    As far as modern influence on the fine arts, where's the beef? That was a performance of an 18th century musical piece. Not especially recent.

    Moreover, it was conducted by a Jew (Martin Pearlman). If anything, this shows how you Calvinists have lost the headship of your own patrimony. Your patrimony, such as it is, is conducted by the Jews, for better or worse.

    (Nothing against Pearlman, of course, in the individual sense. He is a fine conductor.)

    Replies: @Desiderius

    One Jewish conductor among the ten or twelve outstanding ones I’ve enjoyed, including my beloved wife. We sit on the school boards deciding to inject that 1619 poison into the blood of our communities, the hospital boards deciding to import untold numbers of Indian and Arab doctors and promote woefully under-qualified minorities, the church sessions and Presbyteries who call ministers of neither Word nor Sacrament to shepherd our congregations into ignorance and feckless impotence, on corporate boards who sell out both patrimony and posterity in the name of profit and progtardism.

    We’ve got power alright. I’ve seen it first-hand and been on the receiving end more than once. Keep yammering about Jews and Blacks and it will only get worse.

  173. @eugyppius
    @Riccy


    Nah. It’s just plain old Satanism.
     
    The problem with the "it's just evil" thesis is that it's less an explanation of what's happening, than it is a statement of how you feel about it. Out there in the world of power, people are implementing plans to accomplish very specific goals, and we have no hope of defeating them if we don't understand what they are trying to do.

    No Deplorable is hurting any of the elites who are behind these operations against them.
     
    I don't claim that class analysis is the only way to understand politics, but in the modern world it's proven remarkably effective. Also, our opponents think in these terms, so I think we should too.

    The white working and middle classes (I will call them the Natives) are "hurting" the new managerial elites (the Managers) in much the same way that organized labor "hurt" the capitalists in days of yore. The Natives oppose the plans and goals of Managers in many routine aspects of their daily existence. They vote against their policies. A great deal of this opposition is obscured because everything has been done to stifle the political will of the Natives and keep their true sentiments out of sight and out of the media. As a result the confusion here is boundless: The Managers have an instinctive hatred for the Natives but even many of them have no real insight as to why; the Natives feel the hatred and exclusion but find it baffling and, as you write, evil. As a mental experiment, though, imagine that the US established tomorrow a direct democracy in which referenda could be proposed by anyone, upvoted and legally enacted by some simple internet mechanism. Oh, and by some miracle only the Natives were allowed to participate. What would happen? The Natives would shut down mass immigration and perhaps get repatriation programs up and running, they would enact protectionist trade policies, they would do whatever else was necessary to bring back domestic industry, they would end our foreign military adventures tout court and perhaps even redeploy the army domestically, against invasion from the south; and they would do all of this whatever the consequences for GDP.

    That is basically the nightmare scenario for the Managers, who want their corporations to have access to all markets everywhere, who maximize profits in large part by driving wages downwards, who simply want to ensure optimal conditions for the consumption of their cheap plastic garbage. And so the Managers regard the Natives like the sword of Damocles hanging over their head, an ever-present danger that they wish to sideline or eliminate.

    As elites go, the Managers are new and insecure. Like all elites, they need roots in the society, a base of support, but they are detached urban bureaucrats, newly arrived on the scene in the 20th century following changes to the way capital was managed in mass society. They are at best ignored and at worst despised by the Natives. Thus their alliance with and eager promotion of the new serf class, the racial minorities and mass immigrants that capital originally brought on the scene to reduce labor costs, but that the Managers now eye as allies, the perfect people to play the peasants to their lords in the new corporate feudalism they hope to enact. In their fever dreams, the Managers envision presiding over a two-tier society, where they sit at the top, and everyone else toils among the serfs beneath them. The Natives, accustomed to far better conditions, will never go along with this vision, so they must be at best leveled out (immiserated until their expectations equate with those of the third-world populations right now so eagerly imported) or replaced (bred out of existence by the same imported third-world populations).


    This is war against Christ, and people who THEY perceive as Christian and Good.
     
    We're not going to get out of this until religion is re-established in the west at least as firmly as it is in the Islamic world right now. That said, it is worth at least a few moments of introspection to ponder how easily the universalist message of Christianity has been aligned with the program of the Managers. Western religion has not helped us repel the invaders. First in the colonial period and now in the era of inverted colonialism it has done the opposite, namely convinced Western Christian populations that the whole world is their responsibility and/or that the whole world is entitled to their culture, their society and their politics. And while there are traditionalist nativist strains of Christianity out there, the vast majority of Christians today, including all of the major churches and institutions, have not only fallen in line with the managerial agenda, but become some of its loudest advocates. They are at the front of this clown column piping us all into the river. And so, while I understand your sentiment that this is a "war against Christ," I don't really think that stands up to analysis. Christianity writ large is totally on board with the managerial project. It wants what the Managers want.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @James J. O'Meara, @James J. O'Meara

    “The problem with the “it’s just evil” thesis is that it’s less an explanation of what’s happening, than it is a statement of how you feel about it”

    Someone should tattoo that on Fuentes’ forehead.

  174. @Desiderius
    @Bay Area Guy

    They’re not flagellating themselves, they’re flagellating you.

    Replies: @Bay Area Guy

    Right, in the sense that they have no attachment to their white background, and only champion their identity as rich people. However, I suspect that even for those who are somewhat conscious of their race, engaging in ritual self-abasement is a small price to pay for retaining actual privilege and power.

  175. @eugyppius
    @Riccy


    Nah. It’s just plain old Satanism.
     
    The problem with the "it's just evil" thesis is that it's less an explanation of what's happening, than it is a statement of how you feel about it. Out there in the world of power, people are implementing plans to accomplish very specific goals, and we have no hope of defeating them if we don't understand what they are trying to do.

    No Deplorable is hurting any of the elites who are behind these operations against them.
     
    I don't claim that class analysis is the only way to understand politics, but in the modern world it's proven remarkably effective. Also, our opponents think in these terms, so I think we should too.

    The white working and middle classes (I will call them the Natives) are "hurting" the new managerial elites (the Managers) in much the same way that organized labor "hurt" the capitalists in days of yore. The Natives oppose the plans and goals of Managers in many routine aspects of their daily existence. They vote against their policies. A great deal of this opposition is obscured because everything has been done to stifle the political will of the Natives and keep their true sentiments out of sight and out of the media. As a result the confusion here is boundless: The Managers have an instinctive hatred for the Natives but even many of them have no real insight as to why; the Natives feel the hatred and exclusion but find it baffling and, as you write, evil. As a mental experiment, though, imagine that the US established tomorrow a direct democracy in which referenda could be proposed by anyone, upvoted and legally enacted by some simple internet mechanism. Oh, and by some miracle only the Natives were allowed to participate. What would happen? The Natives would shut down mass immigration and perhaps get repatriation programs up and running, they would enact protectionist trade policies, they would do whatever else was necessary to bring back domestic industry, they would end our foreign military adventures tout court and perhaps even redeploy the army domestically, against invasion from the south; and they would do all of this whatever the consequences for GDP.

    That is basically the nightmare scenario for the Managers, who want their corporations to have access to all markets everywhere, who maximize profits in large part by driving wages downwards, who simply want to ensure optimal conditions for the consumption of their cheap plastic garbage. And so the Managers regard the Natives like the sword of Damocles hanging over their head, an ever-present danger that they wish to sideline or eliminate.

    As elites go, the Managers are new and insecure. Like all elites, they need roots in the society, a base of support, but they are detached urban bureaucrats, newly arrived on the scene in the 20th century following changes to the way capital was managed in mass society. They are at best ignored and at worst despised by the Natives. Thus their alliance with and eager promotion of the new serf class, the racial minorities and mass immigrants that capital originally brought on the scene to reduce labor costs, but that the Managers now eye as allies, the perfect people to play the peasants to their lords in the new corporate feudalism they hope to enact. In their fever dreams, the Managers envision presiding over a two-tier society, where they sit at the top, and everyone else toils among the serfs beneath them. The Natives, accustomed to far better conditions, will never go along with this vision, so they must be at best leveled out (immiserated until their expectations equate with those of the third-world populations right now so eagerly imported) or replaced (bred out of existence by the same imported third-world populations).


    This is war against Christ, and people who THEY perceive as Christian and Good.
     
    We're not going to get out of this until religion is re-established in the west at least as firmly as it is in the Islamic world right now. That said, it is worth at least a few moments of introspection to ponder how easily the universalist message of Christianity has been aligned with the program of the Managers. Western religion has not helped us repel the invaders. First in the colonial period and now in the era of inverted colonialism it has done the opposite, namely convinced Western Christian populations that the whole world is their responsibility and/or that the whole world is entitled to their culture, their society and their politics. And while there are traditionalist nativist strains of Christianity out there, the vast majority of Christians today, including all of the major churches and institutions, have not only fallen in line with the managerial agenda, but become some of its loudest advocates. They are at the front of this clown column piping us all into the river. And so, while I understand your sentiment that this is a "war against Christ," I don't really think that stands up to analysis. Christianity writ large is totally on board with the managerial project. It wants what the Managers want.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @James J. O'Meara, @James J. O'Meara

    “That said, it is worth at least a few moments of introspection to ponder how easily the universalist message of Christianity has been aligned with the program of the Managers. Western religion has not helped us repel the invaders. First in the colonial period and now in the era of inverted colonialism it has done the opposite, namely convinced Western Christian populations that the whole world is their responsibility and/or that the whole world is entitled to their culture, their society and their politics. And while there are traditionalist nativist strains of Christianity out there, the vast majority of Christians today, including all of the major churches and institutions, have not only fallen in line with the managerial agenda, but become some of its loudest advocates. They are at the front of this clown column piping us all into the river. And so, while I understand your sentiment that this is a “war against Christ,” I don’t really think that stands up to analysis. Christianity writ large is totally on board with the managerial project. It wants what the Managers want.”

    This should be tattooed on E. Michael Jones’ forehead. If conservatives in general, and Evangelicals in particular, weren’t so bloody stupid, they would have seen that the Higher Criticism (yes, I heard an Evangelical ranting last night about how the moral rot set in with Wellhausen) was their friend.

    Admittedly, the discovery that the Bible was fictional did lead people to promote the Social Gospel (hence, liberalism up to and including Drag Queen Story Hour), but conservatives could have countered by taking the route of Neville Goddard or Alan Watts, and retconned the Bible as purely mystical or, if you prefer, psychological. This would have knocked the props out from under the “we’re all brothers” moralism — and Zionism too, by the way.

    For more on Watts and Goddard, see my book, Magick for Housewives (not banned by Amazon)

  176. @njguy73
    @a guy named me

    What marks the beginning on the Common Era?

    The event which I refer to as "the birth of the Nazarene."

    And using the names of the days of the week doesn't infringe on my religion, since doing so doesn't mean I acknowledge Odin or Thor. Do you acknowledge Odin or Thor?

    Replies: @a guy named me

    And using the names of the days of the week doesn’t infringe on my religion, since doing so doesn’t mean I acknowledge Odin or Thor.

    it is the day in honor of the god thor, or odin – odin’s day – like ‘the year of our Lord’ . you just have one standard for Christianity and another for pagan religions.

    It doesn’t matter if it ‘infringes’ on ‘your’ religion – you live in a society that used that name and date convention – and you and your coreligionist deliberately tried to undo it that (largely successfully, like getting rid of ‘Merry Christmas’ ) congratulations, you’ve been successfully tearing at the fabric of Western society in recent decades, just don’t be surprised if an increasing number of people aren’t happy about it…

  177. @22pp22
    I am a white. That is all. My people have white skin and their nationality is unimportant to me. I wish other people no ill, but they are not my people. If they want reparations, then I want reparations for the millions of my people who were enslaved by the Barbary pirates and the Ottomans. I regret what happened to her people but not to the extent of making any personal sacrifices.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Colin Wright, @International Jew, @John Burns, Gettysburg Partisan, @BB753

    “My people have white skin and their nationality is unimportant to me”

    You’ll find that in Europe nationality and religion trump white skin. You cannot just show up in Bulgaria and expect to be treated as a local. A white man in Europe is not exotic until he opens his mouth. America is different.

  178. @Anonymous
    @Desiderius


    For better or worse Blacks can’t conquer their own neighborhoods. If you’re worried about Blacks you’re as dimwitted as that Yale Misosophist clown. 5 billion blacks are a problem. Ronald McDonald-Jones isn’t.
     
    Tell that to the millions of Whites who fled their homes over the past 50 years to escape black violence and other antisocial behavior. Tell that to Democrat primary voters and candidates.

    Replies: @Rosie

    Tell that to the millions of Whites who fled their homes over the past 50 years to escape black violence and other antisocial behavior. Tell that to Democrat primary voters and candidates.

    You miss the point entirely. It is precisely the political class that empowered blacks to do that.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  179. @Anonymous
    @Rosie


    Corporate elites despise the nation-state.
     
    “Corporate elites.” Point them out to us. I think you are trafficking in voodoo, phantoms. The world is moved by actual people.

    Replies: @Rosie

    “Corporate elites.” Point them out to us. I think you are trafficking in voodoo, phantoms. The world is moved by actual people.

    The world is moved by $$$, and I assume “actual people” aree involved in deciding who gets it.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/companies-are-influencing-politics-by-donating-millions-to-politicians-2018-9

  180. @Ed
    @eah

    The Wal-Marts in Northern Virginia are like a mini United Nations. I’m talking about Wal-Marts in outer Fairfax county. It’s crazy and I say this as a kid of immigrants. You rarely hear American accents among the adults.

    The last Wal-Mart I was in there was an elderly South Asian woman that couldn’t speak much English. She was nice about it and tried to help me but it was of no use.

    Replies: @Sol

    This is why Virginia has been taken over by the (D)s who want to grab guns.

  181. @njguy73
    @Hans

    What if people stopped working for money?

    What if people uncoupled themselves from the currency-based economy?

    What if people simply got homesteads, grew their own food, reduced their needs to bare necessities, and stopped running themselves ragged to make money?

    Who would compensate whom?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Sol

    A good suggestion.

  182. @Whiskey
    It's not Jews it's women. Nice White women. Like Mandy Powers Norrell. De m from SC. Accused circle game cadets in the Army Navy game of White power .

    She's married and with kids. She's White. A Southern belle Just look at her photos. No doubt she loathes her husband for betaness . And reflexively hates White men.

    There are a lot more nice White ladies than Soros types. And not even Come could sell New Coke. or Microsoft the Zune.

    Replies: @Sol

    Lawyer, SJW. Traitor to her people if her parents are natives of SC.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @Sol


    Whiskey wrote:

    Mandy Powers Norrell. De m from SC. Accused circle game cadets in the Army Navy game of White power .
     

    Interesting figure.

    MANDY POWERS NORRELL
    - born July 1973, Lancaster, South Carolina; both parents worked at Springs Mills (now Springs Global, a textile manufacturer founded in South Carolina and a major employer there in the 20th century);
    - ca. May 1991: graduates from a public high school in Lancaster County, SC;
    - 1995: Mandy earns a BA, Furman University [Greenville, SC; Baptist origins]; in her final semester at Furman, she marries lawyer Mitchell Norrell [born ca. early to mid 1960s) (they go on to have two children and found a law firm together);
    - 1997: Mandy earns a JD, University of South Carolina Law School; also from 1997, a practicing lawyer "in the areas of Bankruptcy, Serious Injuries, and Wrongful Death" [per her and her husband's firm's website];
    - Nov. 2012: Elected to South Carolina State Legislature, 44th district, as a D;
    - Late 2010s: Emerges as left-wing figure in the SC State House; a profile of Norrell published in April 2019 notes, "this year, Norrell has introduced 15 sexual assault bills, including legislation involving sexual assaults on college campuses."


    Elected to South Carolina State Legislature, 44th district
     
    The 44th South Carolina State House district is in central Lancaster County, South Carolina, and by the late 20th century was counted as an outer part of the Charlotte, NC, metro area. The 44th district in the 2010s was 59% White, 34% Black, 6% Hispanic. So this is the electorate that put her in office; I doubt very much she won the white-female vote in 2012.

    Maybe as importantly, 11% of adults hold a bachelor's degree or higher, far below the South Carolina average of 27%. This implies only about 2,000 college graduates in their late 20s to early 50s resided in the district in 2012, so Mandy had pretty thin competition.

    She has accomplished a lot from humble origins, but may also feel the need to virtue signal to get on the right side of the big power players in the US.

    ca. May 2011 pic; Mandy in her late 30s:

    https://norrelllaw.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/049.jpg

  183. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack Henson

    Steve tends to give the other side the benefit of the doubt because he grew in a time when what is happening now would seem impossible so it remains so in his mind. There's an amazing amount of brain power exerted around here to avoid having to mentally accept a simple reality:

    They hate you and want you and your family turned into helots.

    Replies: @nebulafox, @Jack Henson, @Corvinus

    “They hate you and want you and your family turned into helots.”

    It takes an amazing amount of brain power exerted around here to manufacture and maintain this falsehood.

  184. @Sol
    @Whiskey

    Lawyer, SJW. Traitor to her people if her parents are natives of SC.

    Replies: @Hail

    Whiskey wrote:

    Mandy Powers Norrell. De m from SC. Accused circle game cadets in the Army Navy game of White power .

    Interesting figure.

    MANDY POWERS NORRELL
    – born July 1973, Lancaster, South Carolina; both parents worked at Springs Mills (now Springs Global, a textile manufacturer founded in South Carolina and a major employer there in the 20th century);
    – ca. May 1991: graduates from a public high school in Lancaster County, SC;
    1995: Mandy earns a BA, Furman University [Greenville, SC; Baptist origins]; in her final semester at Furman, she marries lawyer Mitchell Norrell [born ca. early to mid 1960s) (they go on to have two children and found a law firm together);
    1997: Mandy earns a JD, University of South Carolina Law School; also from 1997, a practicing lawyer “in the areas of Bankruptcy, Serious Injuries, and Wrongful Death” [per her and her husband’s firm’s website];
    Nov. 2012: Elected to South Carolina State Legislature, 44th district, as a D;
    Late 2010s: Emerges as left-wing figure in the SC State House; a profile of Norrell published in April 2019 notes, “this year, Norrell has introduced 15 sexual assault bills, including legislation involving sexual assaults on college campuses.”

    Elected to South Carolina State Legislature, 44th district

    The 44th South Carolina State House district is in central Lancaster County, South Carolina, and by the late 20th century was counted as an outer part of the Charlotte, NC, metro area. The 44th district in the 2010s was 59% White, 34% Black, 6% Hispanic. So this is the electorate that put her in office; I doubt very much she won the white-female vote in 2012.

    Maybe as importantly, 11% of adults hold a bachelor’s degree or higher, far below the South Carolina average of 27%. This implies only about 2,000 college graduates in their late 20s to early 50s resided in the district in 2012, so Mandy had pretty thin competition.

    She has accomplished a lot from humble origins, but may also feel the need to virtue signal to get on the right side of the big power players in the US.

    ca. May 2011 pic; Mandy in her late 30s:

  185. @Desiderius
    @FPD72

    You’re right on this bullshit diversity:

    https://twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1208949234017415169?s=20

    But dead wrong on the Liberal Arts.

    You’d be far better off if they did have Liberal Arts degrees. It’s ignorance of the Liberal Arts which has left the door wide open for SJW con artists to take over, usually invited right in by conservatives who haven’t conserved a damn thing.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @The Wild Geese Howard

    You’d be far better off if they did have Liberal Arts degrees.

    So they should have wasted $150k on an education they could have gotten for a $1.50 in late fees at the public library?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Try again. This time have a point. This really isn’t the place for trying to own idiots with simple-minded snark.

    , @Desiderius
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Here, read this:

    https://www.city-journal.org/university-of-tulsa

  186. @Anon
    @Hail

    This video from CBS truly shows the disaster that is her hair, as well as unflattering side shots of her thickness.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xzNyrFhzew

    I'm assuming she isn't doing the extension/wig stuff that black women do. She should. Whatever the hell she has been using on her hair, it has comletely burned it to a Trumpian orange crisp. Her mom is white, yet she is still saddled with that hair. She seems to have gotten her brain from dad: History and AfAm Studies major.

    Also, the "Hannah-Jones": I read recently that in academia if you are a woman who gets married you had better not change your name. This is not (just) because your older publications will not show up in searches. It's because you won't get tenure. There is a left-wing bias, including from women academics, against women who change their name. It's right up their with voting for Trump. Hyphenated names are tolerated, but not ideal. I wonder if Hannah-Jones hyphenated because she is in the New York Bubblesphere? Another thing women do is to keep their maiden name as an academic "stage name" or "pen name."


    "In sociology ... women who change their names are seen as less serious and less dedicated to the field."

    "The guys who are on my best friend's dissertation committee have flat out told her she's not allowed to change her name if she gets married soon (she's engaged)."

    "I recently got married and was faced with this decision, one which many scientists before me have faced. Should I take my spouse’s last name? Am I a bad feminist if I do?"

    "I was told by several of my new professors (including my PI) that I should have kept my maiden name because of feminism, and by changing it I was destroying everything I represented as a woman. I was told changing my name would make me look like I was not dedicated to my career and prevent me from getting a job. I was told I should have kept my maiden name because chances are my husband and I are getting divorced some day and won’t that be awkward."

    "I perceived disappointment when they found out—looks as if to say, “I thought you were one of us.” ... Another aspect that surprised me was the plethora of comments from my male colleagues. Somehow, it was inconceivable that I would change my name; although, interestingly, every colleague’s wife had changed her name."
     

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Antonius, @Jack D, @Dissident

    This video from CBS truly shows the disaster that is her hair, as well as unflattering side shots of her thickness.

    I’m assuming she isn’t doing the extension/wig stuff that black women do. She should. Whatever the hell she has been using on her hair, it has comletely burned it to a Trumpian orange crisp. Her mom is white, yet she is still saddled with that hair.

    Nikole Hannah-Jones’ physical appearance is just so germane to this discussion, isn’t it? Thanks for elevating it, and for demonstrating your own frivolity, pettiness and gratuitous spite.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Dissident

    Discussion?

    Lol. She’s talking smack and getting the same back.

    Don’t want none don’t start none.

  187. @eah
    Spotted Toad is probably overthinking this in the specific, but it does seem to work like that in the general.

    Or maybe you underthink it, or underreact to it, in order to minimize the possibility of being called "reprllent racist filth" again.

    Which comes first, the chicken "general" or the egg 'specifics'? -- all of the 'specifics' manifest themselves in the general.

    link

    Our new elite is well on the way to creating a new serf class by devastating the native White working class and importing poor, uneducated Democrat voters. Income inequality highest blue states.
     
    Or the 'American Dream' is to return from a trip abroad, only to find all of the people around you in the queue for 'US Citizens, Permanent Residents, and Immigrant Visa Holders' look like an amalgamation of the countries you just visited.

    https://twitter.com/ajdhenry/status/1208868894057943041

    Replies: @Hail, @Ed, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Dissident

    Or maybe you underthink it, or underreact to it, in order to minimize the possibility of being called “reprllent racist filth” again.

    You really think our host’s writing is influenced by a fear of being called names by the likes of JPod?

    • Replies: @eah
    @Dissident

    You really think our host’s writing is influenced by a fear of being called names by the likes of JPod?

    Yes, sometimes/often I do -- re someone who generally presents himself as a sort of public intellectual, and therefore wouldn't necessarily relish being called such names (or asked if he still beats his wife), it's a reasonable part of the explanation for the excess of "wry detachment", wouldn't you say?

  188. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Desiderius


    You’d be far better off if they did have Liberal Arts degrees.
     
    So they should have wasted $150k on an education they could have gotten for a $1.50 in late fees at the public library?

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Desiderius

    Try again. This time have a point. This really isn’t the place for trying to own idiots with simple-minded snark.

  189. @Dissident
    @Anon


    This video from CBS truly shows the disaster that is her hair, as well as unflattering side shots of her thickness.

    I’m assuming she isn’t doing the extension/wig stuff that black women do. She should. Whatever the hell she has been using on her hair, it has comletely burned it to a Trumpian orange crisp. Her mom is white, yet she is still saddled with that hair.
     

    Nikole Hannah-Jones' physical appearance is just so germane to this discussion, isn't it? Thanks for elevating it, and for demonstrating your own frivolity, pettiness and gratuitous spite.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Discussion?

    Lol. She’s talking smack and getting the same back.

    Don’t want none don’t start none.

  190. @Dissident
    @eah


    Or maybe you underthink it, or underreact to it, in order to minimize the possibility of being called “reprllent racist filth” again.
     
    You really think our host's writing is influenced by a fear of being called names by the likes of JPod?

    Replies: @eah

    You really think our host’s writing is influenced by a fear of being called names by the likes of JPod?

    Yes, sometimes/often I do — re someone who generally presents himself as a sort of public intellectual, and therefore wouldn’t necessarily relish being called such names (or asked if he still beats his wife), it’s a reasonable part of the explanation for the excess of “wry detachment”, wouldn’t you say?

  191. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Jack D

    Jack. You're a smart guy, but your zealotry makes your replies so very repetitive.

    Look, I've always said that Jews and gentile whites share equally in what has happened. Con men always say that the mark has to want to believe the con. The old lady wants to believe that the young man finds her attractive.

    For a variety of reasons (most coming back to hubris, btw), gentile whites were ripe for the con of a multi-everything society. Jewish leaders (unrestrained by their community, i.e. people like you Jack) used their truly impressive skills - ability to make money, organization, communications, political maneuvering, etc. - to execute the con, believing (probably correctly) that such a society was Good for the Jews or, at least, Better for the Jews.

    Were Jews directly aided in the con by many gentile whites? Absolutely. But you can always find traitorous, disaffected locals to use.

    Was there some Jewish conspiracy? Of course not. Let's not be childish. It was simply many individuals and groups with similar ideas working independently for a similar goal.

    Again, gentile whites are more to blame than Jews. I mean, it's a fairly obvious con. Japan, China, South Korea, hopefully Eastern Europe, didn't fall for it. The fact that many countries in Western Europe with extremely small Jewish populations fell for the con shows culpability of gentile whites. Sure, Jews did a masterful job of pushing the narrative on TV shows, the news and movies, but gentile whites didn't have to buy into such trite.

    I don't know why you are so reluctant to admit the role of Jews in where we are and, to continue your analogy, why buildings keep catching fire. It makes you seem a zealot. I've admitted that gentile whites bare much of the blame for buying into the con. The least that you can do is acknowledging Jews' decisive role in coming up and executing the con.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Corvinus

    Here’s the reality. Gentile whites have not been conned by Jews to believe in diversity. Rather, they have made that decision of their own accord. It’s easier for you to say that gentile whites have been brainwashed because they everything you tout is based on this (false) premise. You don’t even have to think logically anymore. Normies see right through your con artistry and it really shakes you to your core.

  192. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Desiderius


    You’d be far better off if they did have Liberal Arts degrees.
     
    So they should have wasted $150k on an education they could have gotten for a $1.50 in late fees at the public library?

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Desiderius

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