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  1. Britain has its share of wackos, but nowhere near as many as the USA does.

    And yes, iSteve spergs, I do mean per capita.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Polistra

    They are just nuts in different ways. We aren't quite yet jailing people for mean tweets like they do, for example. But we're getting there.

    , @Alyosha
    @Polistra

    You are a sperg for even saying that before anyone brought it up.

    , @JBond
    @Polistra

    Imagine you were a king in Europe in the 16th or 17th century.
    Who would you send to your new colony in the New World.
    The best, the brightest, the most beautiful?
    Of course not.
    You would clean out all the prisons and insane asylums and send them instead.

    Replies: @Curle

  2. anonymous[363] • Disclaimer says:

    The US is 2-3% Jewish while UK is 0.5% Jewish. At the helm of movements to move society away from the white and religious nuclear family are Jewish intellectuals. It could be there are fewer Jewish intellectuals in the UK so less intense pressure to hold the line.

    At the same time Jews are able to create a lot of wealth. The UK is poorer than the US. The GDP per capita of both places with adjusting for purchasing power was $70,000 compared to $47,000 last year. This is despite the fact the UK has a lot better demographics. The UK is 86% white while the US is down to 57.8% non-Hispanic white from the 2020 Census.

    • Thanks: Father Coughlin
    • LOL: IHTG
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @anonymous

    Jewish people are pretty influential in the UK - one of Thatcher's cabinets was reportedly a quarter Jewish.


    They're in both parties though as staff, funders and paid activists. Keith Joseph was famously Thatcher's "eminence gris". Grant Shapps is highly influential today, though not as much as Mandelson was for New Labour.

    , @Graham
    @anonymous

    I think more important factors are our much higher taxes, especially the marginal rates affecting entrepreneurs, our smaller internal market, and our greater burden of restrictive legislation; although I admit I don’t have figures to back up the third factor, just a general impression.

    Replies: @Curle, @anonymous

    , @Mr. Grey
    @anonymous

    I thought the U.K. went pretty wacky with all this, and maybe the inevitable correction has started there first.

    , @Exile
    @anonymous

    Britain's Whiter demographics need to be considered through the lens of age and distribution. The Anglos are older, more atomized and rural, so their current influence is even more diluted and future influence will wane faster than those sanguine present, age-blind stats suggest. The draconian enthusiasm of Woke enforcement in the UK (esp. Scotland) also exceeds the US (hard to believe but sadly true).

    , @Snorri Godhi
    @anonymous

    British Jews, like French Jews, tend to vote conservative. Unlike (North?) American Jews, they know which side their bread is buttered.

    But i note that you specifically blame Jewish intellectuals. I don't know about British Jewish intellectuals, but my impression is that British intellectuals in general tend to be a bit less insane than American intellectuals.

  3. Maxim’s Smyrnyi’s tweet is half the story. The other half is the vast difference between European and American Jews in terms of voting behavior and ideological leanings. Experience with Islamism matters. I don’t believe that the disproportionately Jewish writing class is completely sheltered from reality. It’s just that being American affords a greater degree of detachment and distance. Lying with a keyboard is easier if you don’t have to suspect your eyes as the real culprit as much to do it.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @NoFancyHandle

    Islamism in the UK is not a powerful force. Muslims in Europe are affected by liberalism more than they affect their host cultures. This is probably especially true in the UK. Sadiq Khan and other "Muslims" in the elite class are "Muslim" in name only. And the problems that Pakistanis cause in the UK are tangential to Islam at most.

    In contrast, Negro worship in the US is the state religion, and most Jews live in cities where contact with large amounts of blacks is impossible to avoid. So "detachment from reality" is objectively more difficult to achieve for US Jews than for British Jews.

    Replies: @Curle

  4. Britain lost the other war.

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Dream

    Lambeth is a highly jigged and nigged area. Oddly the Imperial War Museum and old Bedlam is located there.

    Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)

    , @SFG
    @Dream

    Ironically people from outside the West (the Western Bloc, really, look at Eastern Europe) are much less likely to swallow the trans stuff.

    Maybe the USA needs more actual Polish plumbers?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Wokechoke, @Rahan

    , @Anonymous
    @Dream

    The plain fact is that in the UK, there is simply *no possible democratic means* to restrict and reduce massive third world immigration.

    Everything else is just hot air.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Dream

    In the 1930s, Britons could spell minuscule and parents'. Standards have lowered.

    Then again, maybe the latter isn't an error. He might have had one parent, whose "gender" he doesn't reveal. Standards have lowered.



    A boy in my year at school was murdered...
     
    At least he was wearing a uniform!

    Ban on 'saggy pants' overturned after 13 years in South Florida city

    https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox6now.com/www.fox6now.com/content/uploads/2020/09/764/432/GettyImages-476794960-e1600043794190.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

    Replies: @Tony, @SaneClownPosse

    , @Anonymous
    @Dream

    My friend, who is an American, moved to London, and opened a small gift store in a very nice neighborhood in London. This was the late '80's, and most of the Brit’s only had abstract ideas about black people, while my friend was very knowledgeable about them, having come from America.

    So one day, two African immigrants entered the store, while yelling/singing some rap lyrics. They were the blue/black looking type with African accents. My friend, knowing what to expect since he was originally from Los Angeles, grasped the heavy, wood baseball bat he had under the cash register.

    One of them, while grinning, closed the front door, and locked it, while the other one, smiling and yelling his rap song, proceeded to walk up to my friend, still behind the counter, and high-jumped up upon the counter. At this stage, my friend, without saying a word, whipped out the baseball bat, and started beating the shit out of the black guy, as he fell backward, and off the counter.

    He saw the other black guy, wide-eyed with fear, unlock the door and run out. The other one followed, screaming like an animal, as my friend got a couple of more swings on him. He said he had to have broken some bones, as he connected pretty well a couple of times. He kept aiming to take the guy's head off, but kept missing. On his way out African thug trashed a few of my friends displays. The store was fairly trashed after all this.

    It was unusual for my friend to have been minding the counter on that day, at that time. Usually, his employee, a young girl, was working there, but had called in sick that day. He shuddered to think of what would have happened if she had been there when the African immigrants decided to rob his store, with her there alone. He also felt lucky that he knew enough about black people to have a baseball bat ready to go the moment they entered the store. It was the first and only time he’s had to use it. The Africans were quite large, and he said he wouldn’t have had a chance against them without the bat. He said a typical Brit would have not been ready with a bat. They wouldn’t have known what to do.

    Anyway, he never saw them again, and for the next few years, the experience with the Africans worried him, as he noticed more and more of them on the streets of London, many of them pulling street scams, as well as the crime increase related to them, and he went on to close his store, and sell his goods exclusively via the internet.

    The last time I visited London was in the early 2000's. My friend said that, thanks to England’s bizarre immigration policy of unchecked increase of Muslims and Africans, that version of London is gone, and it’s never coming back.

    It’s a shame that a culture with so much history, with so much blood and treasure spent during two world wars to keep it intact, is going to be eliminated within a couple of generations, as if they’d lost a war against Nigeria and Pakistan.

    The saddest fact remains… when Hitler declared war on Poland and Russia, we all should identified it as a local civil war, have stayed the fuck out of it.

    All that money spent. All those American/British dead. All those destroyed cities.

    For nothing.

    Replies: @Sam Malone

    , @anonymouseperson
    @Dream

    Let's just call it the Kaisers revenge or Hitler's revenge, whichever you prefer. England may have "won" the German wars, but it sure as hell lost the peace. Oh well, Powell warned the sorry bastards.

  5. Maybe it’s because there’s more money floating around in America, both from private donors and taxpayers. That means more colleges (and with better funding), more “foundations” and other NGOs, etc. Also, a larger number of media outlets owned by billionaires that don’t have to make a profit.

    For this reason, people can keep pushing crazy ideas until they get some kind of hold on the wider population. This would be a lot harder if educational institutions were more frugal and people within them had to stick to more practical pursuits. The same applies with the media, as well as pressure groups of all kinds – there seems to be more money available to them in the US. If media outlets had to survive on the support of the public, they might stick to promoting things that are sure to get the support of normal sensible people.

  6. It’s not just Britain, transmania isn’t even making as big a stride in Canada. I suspect that ultimately both the US being so huge and now such an atomised place that connection to reality is no longer needed. Teenage girls have lost their minds with social media since it’s a media source created and interacted by and for them and inevitably goes off the rails as Tumblr, Twitter, TikTok and Instagram attest. This was the great sea-change in the internet that led to the ‘Great Awokening’, teenage girls on social media. American teenage girls are spreading this madness on the internet with it’s spread very closely matching how proficient in English people in other countries are.

    The other big factor is the medical system in the US. Almost everywhere else these kinds of services are done by state medical providers (At least locally, plenty of private clinic butchers in South East Asia are willing to destroy paying client’s lives) and these are ultimately accountable for what they are spending public resources on and why.

    In the US there isn’t the same pressure points or accountability on medical professionals since almost all ‘gender reassignment’ services are private and operate in the gray area of elective cosmetic surgery. The relevant medical associations are also totally insane and controlled by trans activists.

    I was watching the MLS final last night, the LAFC ‘ultras’ (The typical obnoxious cringe LARPers you find in the MLS) had a giant trans flag bigger than any of the LAFC flags in their section.

    It’s just dumb political tribalism that has much more salience in the US too.

    For example here is a famous Swedish investigative programme for the state broadcaster, SVT, which focuses on the responsibility of state medical providers in their use of this treatment for children. That context doesn’t exist in the US so that point of legal and political accountability never explodes.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Altai

    I went to an MLS game (match?) this summer in Minnesota; the whole enterprise struck me as extremely fake and gay; Americans LARPing as Europeans. I also dislike the faux European names a lot of the clubs have.

    Full disclosure: I’ve never been much of a soccer fan.(to put it mildly) I do like the fact that the games last two hours, pretty much always. The club’s stadium, in my old neighborhood in St. Paul was nice; one of the million new sportsball palaces built in the Twin Cities over the last 20 or so years. I guess when your town doesn’t have a problem with public order, rioting, etc, you can build such things… oh, wait….

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Professional Slav
    @Altai

    Says the video isn't available anymore. I wonder why.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Altai

    "LAFC ‘ultras’ (The typical obnoxious cringe LARPers you find in the MLS) had a giant trans flag bigger than any of the LAFC flags"

    Pity. Nice to see Gareth Bale get on the field and score.

    , @Dmon
    @Altai

    "The other big factor is the medical system in the US. Almost everywhere else these kinds of services are done by state medical providers..."

    A combination of this and the fact that there are alot more Muslims as a percent of the population in England. In particular, there are 1.3M Muslims in London (roughly 15% of the city population), which one would assume is where most of the impetus for destructive woke policies comes from. So there is pushback against Trannyism in the UK for the same kind of reason that there is collapse of civil society in Minneapolis. You get 15% of the population with 100% cohesion (i.e., hatred of the existing inhabitants), and you can run the place.

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Altai

    transmania isn’t even making as big a stride in Canada

    Depends. The Canadian legal system is more pro trans than the US. Anglo Montreal is also probably the North American capital of Trans. Maybe the Asian communities in Vancouver and Toronto are a little more sensible, as well as the good people of Saskatchewan.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Russ
    @Altai


    I was watching the MLS final last night, the LAFC ‘ultras’ (The typical obnoxious cringe LARPers you find in the MLS) had a giant trans flag bigger than any of the LAFC flags in their section.
     
    I too noticed this. In this vein, a few years ago when we channel-surfed across some NWSL women's soccer game, my wife observed that they had about as many rainbow flags in the seats as spectators.

    I would never have seen that LAFC flag had I not tuned in expecting an early World Series pregame show on Fox. Rough night for Philly sports fans.

    Replies: @Curle, @Cool Daddy Jimbo

  7. @Pat Hannagan
    Whatever is happening in the rest of the world it's only three days away from groveling to whatever your media has to say.

    It's bizarre that you don't already know this.

    World War T is an entirely Jewish-American construct foisted upon the world to humiliate the rest of us into genuflecting at your superior artillery.


    Don't you know this, Steve?

    You're not so stupid you don't actually understand that the rest of the world is in fear of you and your degenerate nation?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQywZYoGB1g

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan

    Most of the time people get what they asked for.

  8. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Some people might be helped by hormone therapy or even surgery, but that doesn’t make them the opposite sex.

  9. Britain is still about three-quarters white, it has the demographics of the U.S. from about the year 2000. The immigrant vote in America is about to put the white-hating, totalitarian left into semi-permanent power. It is that vote that drives wokeness. The trans shit is, of course, just another oblique attack on traditional white society. The woke element in the left has always been there since the 1960s, it never prospered until the left seized power, with Republican help, through a program of racist colonialism.

  10. Trans is basically quite nutty, and depends heavily on leveraging off a general minoritarian ideological dominance.

    And minoritarianism is an “American” ideology. Developed and propagandized by American Jews, to crack open the “oppressive” Anglo US establishment/culture and make it more minority friendly–and soon minority-centric.

    Minoritarianism doesn’t make any logic sense. (Nations need to do the reverse–be majority centric–or they do not survive.) So other nations did not develop this suicidal ideology, they have imported it from the huge American post-War dominance of the West. (As I’ve pointed out with my “diversity is the health of the state” it has its appeal to state elites, so there is demand side “pull” and lots and lots of parrotting.) But–to first order–the closer you are to America, to living in the world of the US English language and culture, the more corrupted you will be.

    • Agree: LondonBob
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @AnotherDad


    And minoritarianism is an “American” ideology. Developed and propagandized by American Jews, to crack open the “oppressive” Anglo US establishment/culture and make it more minority friendly–and soon minority-centric.

    Minoritarianism doesn’t make any logic sense. (Nations need to do the reverse–be majority centric–or they do not survive.) So other nations did not develop this suicidal ideology, they have imported it from the huge American post-War dominance of the West. (As I’ve pointed out with my “diversity is the health of the state” it has its appeal to state elites, so there is demand side “pull” and lots and lots of parrotting.) But–to first order–the closer you are to America, to living in the world of the US English language and culture, the more corrupted you will be.
     

    Hence the fall of the UK and Canada, closest to the US. But the Anglosphere and Western Europe is pretty much toast so they've moved onto the East, apparently with your support. Most odd.

    Note the English language signs, always an NGO speciality.

    https://www.ukrweekly.com/uwwp/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/2_CMYK.jpg

    https://www.ukrweekly.com/uwwp/thousands-take-part-in-10th-annual-gay-pride-parade-in-kyivin-a-shift-from-previous-years-this-years-participants-did-not-face-violence/


    KYIV – Some 7,000 supporters of LGBT rights marched peacefully on September 19 in Ukraine’s capital in what was this city’s 10th gay pride parade. Organizers of the march said that, as opposed to previous pride parades that did incur violence, this year’s march was peaceful with only a handful of minor provocations.

    This was also the first time that organizers of the march expressed demands on the Ukrainian government. Those demands, published in a manifesto signed by 15 non-governmental organizations, asked the Ukrainian government to adopt a bill to combat discrimination and create a procedure for holding people who commit crimes motivated by homophobia, transphobia and other forms of intolerance legally liable.

    “This is the 10th pride parade,” said Leni Emson***, director of KyivPride, a Ukrainian non-governmental organization founded in 2016 to promote awareness of different issues affecting the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LBGT) community here. “The parade was successful. It was calm.”

    Melinda Simmons, the United Kingdom’s ambassador to Ukraine, attended the Kyiv pride parade together with other members of the British Embassy in Ukraine.

    “I think that Ukraine’s progress in achieving equality is a journey. It is in development. That is why I am excited to be here. Because it is really important to support it,” Ms. Simmons told The Ukrainian Weekly.

    “It is hugely positive to see this community here, but it is small. So, I think that for all of us whose countries have also been on that journey it is essential to be here,” Ms. Simmons said.

    “The United Kingdom’s government supports Ukraine on this journey. First of all, we are here because we support this movement. We also provide financial support, particularly in training for people to stay competent in what they do. I believe that one of the most important things that we can do is support Ukrainians vocally in what they stand for,” Ms. Simmons told The Weekly.

     

    *** "Lenny Emson has successfully completed the prestigious Human Rights Advocates Program (HRAP) from Columbia University, New York City, USA, in 2017."
  11. @NoFancyHandle
    Maxim's Smyrnyi's tweet is half the story. The other half is the vast difference between European and American Jews in terms of voting behavior and ideological leanings. Experience with Islamism matters. I don't believe that the disproportionately Jewish writing class is completely sheltered from reality. It's just that being American affords a greater degree of detachment and distance. Lying with a keyboard is easier if you don't have to suspect your eyes as the real culprit as much to do it.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Islamism in the UK is not a powerful force. Muslims in Europe are affected by liberalism more than they affect their host cultures. This is probably especially true in the UK. Sadiq Khan and other “Muslims” in the elite class are “Muslim” in name only. And the problems that Pakistanis cause in the UK are tangential to Islam at most.

    In contrast, Negro worship in the US is the state religion, and most Jews live in cities where contact with large amounts of blacks is impossible to avoid. So “detachment from reality” is objectively more difficult to achieve for US Jews than for British Jews.

    • Agree: LondonBob
    • Replies: @Curle
    @AndrewR

    “most Jews live in cities where contact with large amounts of blacks is impossible to avoid. So “detachment from reality” is objectively more difficult to achieve for US Jews”

    The proper way to view this isn’t detachment from reality but insulation from reality. In every major city I’ve resided with significant Jewish and Black populations the wealthy Jews were incredibly successful insulating themselves from Blacks and lower order whites. Less wealthy Jews were Kosher rednecks.

  12. The UK lacks successful and inspiring stories of transitions like Admiral Rachel Levine and Olympic Games gold-medal winning decathlete Caitlyn Jenner.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  13. Here is something OT but very much in the Sailer wheelhouse. The Washington Post is starting to report that there is widespread resentment surrounding the rise of “low IQ football.”

    Why is there so much bad football in the NFL? (WaPo link.)

    (Non-paywalled link here.)

    “The product is low quality right now,” a prominent player agent said, unsolicited, during a conversation about a different topic. (He spoke on the condition of anonymity in part not to offend some of his clients.) “There’s too much low-IQ football being played. Too many games are tough to watch. If you want to know what people who have been in this league a long time are talking about right now, this is it.”

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Intelligent Dasein

    My theory: massive players, starting to play early, playing intensely leads to early onset of CTE (Chronic traumatic encephalopathy) leading to lower IQ causing lower IQ professional football. So, the cause and effect are not unrelated but form a feedback loop.

  14. Could it be our huge Jewish population? They seem especially neurotic and obsessed with pushing social causes. And they love the idea of destroying the white patriarchy.

    I don’t think Israel has this problem but they have more religious Jews and perhaps aren’t interested in destroying their own society.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Zelo

    Israel has gays & trannies galore.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/defying-ministry-rabbis-tell-school-to-put-transgender-boy-in-female-only-class/

    Defying ministry, rabbis tell school to put transgender boy in female-only class

    And- grow up.

    Thinking that some Jewish conspiracy is behind US Tranny invasion is infantile. There is no Erich von Transtein.

    Replies: @Zelo, @Odin

  15. I don’t claim this is the only reason, but the UK is 6% Muslim and less than 0.5% Jewish, whereas the US is 1% Muslim and 2% Jewish.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  16. Before I opened this article I thought,

    “Is it because Transniggers are sacred…” and well yes I’d have to agree it’s because blacks are given a form of sacred status that Americans turn a blind eye to Transanity.

    Blacks are a terrible voting bloc and a drag on productivity.

  17. @Dream
    Britain lost the other war.

    https://twitter.com/SAshworthHayes/status/1587777406299000833?t=0uDL-dd-SJU-iBaffX1jWw&s=19


    https://twitter.com/post_liberal/status/1588818602857484288?t=UsTTAoPR88coyc-ynrZ5tg&s=19

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @SFG, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @anonymouseperson

    Lambeth is a highly jigged and nigged area. Oddly the Imperial War Museum and old Bedlam is located there.

    • Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
    @Wokechoke

    Lambeth is also the location of Lambeth Palace, the official London residence of the Archbishop of Canterbury.

    Friends of Christ, let us earnestly pray
    That Diversity, maybe one day,
    Will set fire to the Seat
    Of Archbishop Lord Cheat
    And so Enoch will have the last say.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  18. It’s because the USA is less white. Transsexuals are disproportionately non-white, and non-white communities are more tolerant of transsexualism.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
    @Anonymous

    Sorry, that just sounds like made up BS.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  19. I have a theory that Antifa is the armed faction, to use the Northern Irish terminology, of the democrat party, so its T constituents must be tolerated and even encouraged.

    In the UK I have seen videos of Muslims, in Muslim dress, confronting what appeared to be Ts that moved into Muslim areas. So the UK establishment may be wary of endorsing Ts too much lest they upset the Muslims. Muslims also forced local schools to drop the T curriculum.

    Current PM Sunak “is a Hindu.[202] His name is Hindi: ऋषि सुनक and Gurumukhi: ਰਿਸ਼ੀ ਸੁਨਕ. He took his oath as an MP at the House of Commons on the Bhagavad Gita.” This might also indicate something about UK policy towards T.

    • Replies: @CCG
    @George

    No, Hinduism favours the T crowd (known as "hijras" in many Indian languages).

  20. Church of England is still a weird Catholic Mirror with Class and Dignity, despite the weirdness

    American Protestants are just Jews using another name as they wait for the Messiah to come

  21. I’d actually go the other way from Smyrni-the American “anyone can become anything” ideology, with or without an assumption of underlying similarity, is receptive to trans ideas. Being able to reinvent yourself has always been a big part of the national mythos, and changing your sex kinda fits into that.

    I mean, it’s not like I can turn myself into a dragon (unless I am a boss in a Japanese video game), but that’s part of why the ideology got as far as it did, IMHO

    • Replies: @Charlotte
    @SFG


    Being able to reinvent yourself has always been a big part of the national mythos, and changing your sex kinda fits into that.
     
    That belief in the freedom to reinvent yourself-and the usual assumption that reinvention will be a positive thing-may leave Americans particularly susceptible to trans mania. The British, from what I can tell, still have a sense that things like social class matter-and are more or less fixed. Maybe that gives them a certain baseline skepticism about changing sex.
  22. @Dream
    Britain lost the other war.

    https://twitter.com/SAshworthHayes/status/1587777406299000833?t=0uDL-dd-SJU-iBaffX1jWw&s=19


    https://twitter.com/post_liberal/status/1588818602857484288?t=UsTTAoPR88coyc-ynrZ5tg&s=19

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @SFG, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @anonymouseperson

    Ironically people from outside the West (the Western Bloc, really, look at Eastern Europe) are much less likely to swallow the trans stuff.

    Maybe the USA needs more actual Polish plumbers?

    • Agree: Muggles
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @SFG

    Disagree. Trans is more common in eastern Asia and South America than the West.

    , @Wokechoke
    @SFG

    The Ukies and Poles are unwittingly swallowing all sorts of trans sausage. They just don’t have the smarts to see it yet.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    , @Rahan
    @SFG


    Ironically people from outside the West (the Western Bloc, really, look at Eastern Europe) are much less likely to swallow the trans stuff.

    Maybe the USA needs more actual Polish plumbers?
     
    "Leaked memos show that the FBI has a made a list of all Polish plumbers as potential terrorist threats."
  23. Abortion. American feminists are dedicated to defending the maximalist abortion position and refuse to criticize anyone they view as being on their side, broadly defined…enemy of my enemy, etc. British feminists have a broader societal consensus backing limited, and not extreme, abortion rights. That frees them to defend women and girls against trans men since they know abortion laws aren’t up for debate much less about to change.

    Another example of Roe v Wade polarizing our politics.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  24. @SFG
    @Dream

    Ironically people from outside the West (the Western Bloc, really, look at Eastern Europe) are much less likely to swallow the trans stuff.

    Maybe the USA needs more actual Polish plumbers?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Wokechoke, @Rahan

    Disagree. Trans is more common in eastern Asia and South America than the West.

  25. @anonymous
    The US is 2-3% Jewish while UK is 0.5% Jewish. At the helm of movements to move society away from the white and religious nuclear family are Jewish intellectuals. It could be there are fewer Jewish intellectuals in the UK so less intense pressure to hold the line.

    At the same time Jews are able to create a lot of wealth. The UK is poorer than the US. The GDP per capita of both places with adjusting for purchasing power was $70,000 compared to $47,000 last year. This is despite the fact the UK has a lot better demographics. The UK is 86% white while the US is down to 57.8% non-Hispanic white from the 2020 Census.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Graham, @Mr. Grey, @Exile, @Snorri Godhi

    Jewish people are pretty influential in the UK – one of Thatcher’s cabinets was reportedly a quarter Jewish.

    They’re in both parties though as staff, funders and paid activists. Keith Joseph was famously Thatcher’s “eminence gris”. Grant Shapps is highly influential today, though not as much as Mandelson was for New Labour.

  26. OT, but funny, the Japanese are running into trouble due to lack of video game diversity:

    https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/final-fantasy-16s-producer-said-every-wrong-thing-when-asked-about-the-games-diversity

    (Yes, their fantasies were so final they made sixteen of them.)

  27. @AnotherDad
    Trans is basically quite nutty, and depends heavily on leveraging off a general minoritarian ideological dominance.

    And minoritarianism is an "American" ideology. Developed and propagandized by American Jews, to crack open the "oppressive" Anglo US establishment/culture and make it more minority friendly--and soon minority-centric.

    Minoritarianism doesn't make any logic sense. (Nations need to do the reverse--be majority centric--or they do not survive.) So other nations did not develop this suicidal ideology, they have imported it from the huge American post-War dominance of the West. (As I've pointed out with my "diversity is the health of the state" it has its appeal to state elites, so there is demand side "pull" and lots and lots of parrotting.) But--to first order--the closer you are to America, to living in the world of the US English language and culture, the more corrupted you will be.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    And minoritarianism is an “American” ideology. Developed and propagandized by American Jews, to crack open the “oppressive” Anglo US establishment/culture and make it more minority friendly–and soon minority-centric.

    Minoritarianism doesn’t make any logic sense. (Nations need to do the reverse–be majority centric–or they do not survive.) So other nations did not develop this suicidal ideology, they have imported it from the huge American post-War dominance of the West. (As I’ve pointed out with my “diversity is the health of the state” it has its appeal to state elites, so there is demand side “pull” and lots and lots of parrotting.) But–to first order–the closer you are to America, to living in the world of the US English language and culture, the more corrupted you will be.

    Hence the fall of the UK and Canada, closest to the US. But the Anglosphere and Western Europe is pretty much toast so they’ve moved onto the East, apparently with your support. Most odd.

    Note the English language signs, always an NGO speciality.

    https://www.ukrweekly.com/uwwp/thousands-take-part-in-10th-annual-gay-pride-parade-in-kyivin-a-shift-from-previous-years-this-years-participants-did-not-face-violence/

    KYIV – Some 7,000 supporters of LGBT rights marched peacefully on September 19 in Ukraine’s capital in what was this city’s 10th gay pride parade. Organizers of the march said that, as opposed to previous pride parades that did incur violence, this year’s march was peaceful with only a handful of minor provocations.

    This was also the first time that organizers of the march expressed demands on the Ukrainian government. Those demands, published in a manifesto signed by 15 non-governmental organizations, asked the Ukrainian government to adopt a bill to combat discrimination and create a procedure for holding people who commit crimes motivated by homophobia, transphobia and other forms of intolerance legally liable.

    “This is the 10th pride parade,” said Leni Emson***, director of KyivPride, a Ukrainian non-governmental organization founded in 2016 to promote awareness of different issues affecting the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LBGT) community here. “The parade was successful. It was calm.”

    Melinda Simmons, the United Kingdom’s ambassador to Ukraine, attended the Kyiv pride parade together with other members of the British Embassy in Ukraine.

    “I think that Ukraine’s progress in achieving equality is a journey. It is in development. That is why I am excited to be here. Because it is really important to support it,” Ms. Simmons told The Ukrainian Weekly.

    “It is hugely positive to see this community here, but it is small. So, I think that for all of us whose countries have also been on that journey it is essential to be here,” Ms. Simmons said.

    “The United Kingdom’s government supports Ukraine on this journey. First of all, we are here because we support this movement. We also provide financial support, particularly in training for people to stay competent in what they do. I believe that one of the most important things that we can do is support Ukrainians vocally in what they stand for,” Ms. Simmons told The Weekly.

    *** “Lenny Emson has successfully completed the prestigious Human Rights Advocates Program (HRAP) from Columbia University, New York City, USA, in 2017.”

  28. @Altai
    It's not just Britain, transmania isn't even making as big a stride in Canada. I suspect that ultimately both the US being so huge and now such an atomised place that connection to reality is no longer needed. Teenage girls have lost their minds with social media since it's a media source created and interacted by and for them and inevitably goes off the rails as Tumblr, Twitter, TikTok and Instagram attest. This was the great sea-change in the internet that led to the 'Great Awokening', teenage girls on social media. American teenage girls are spreading this madness on the internet with it's spread very closely matching how proficient in English people in other countries are.

    The other big factor is the medical system in the US. Almost everywhere else these kinds of services are done by state medical providers (At least locally, plenty of private clinic butchers in South East Asia are willing to destroy paying client's lives) and these are ultimately accountable for what they are spending public resources on and why.

    In the US there isn't the same pressure points or accountability on medical professionals since almost all 'gender reassignment' services are private and operate in the gray area of elective cosmetic surgery. The relevant medical associations are also totally insane and controlled by trans activists.

    I was watching the MLS final last night, the LAFC 'ultras' (The typical obnoxious cringe LARPers you find in the MLS) had a giant trans flag bigger than any of the LAFC flags in their section.

    It's just dumb political tribalism that has much more salience in the US too.

    For example here is a famous Swedish investigative programme for the state broadcaster, SVT, which focuses on the responsibility of state medical providers in their use of this treatment for children. That context doesn't exist in the US so that point of legal and political accountability never explodes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPNSWjjAzD

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Professional Slav, @YetAnotherAnon, @Dmon, @Peter Akuleyev, @Russ

    I went to an MLS game (match?) this summer in Minnesota; the whole enterprise struck me as extremely fake and gay; Americans LARPing as Europeans. I also dislike the faux European names a lot of the clubs have.

    Full disclosure: I’ve never been much of a soccer fan.(to put it mildly) I do like the fact that the games last two hours, pretty much always. The club’s stadium, in my old neighborhood in St. Paul was nice; one of the million new sportsball palaces built in the Twin Cities over the last 20 or so years. I guess when your town doesn’t have a problem with public order, rioting, etc, you can build such things… oh, wait….

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Ganderson


    I also dislike the faux European names a lot of the clubs have.
     
    Many British and European clubs have fantastic names. Sheffield Wednesday, Partick Thistle, (Lisburn) Distillery, Borussia (Dortmund, Mönchengladbach, and several smaller communities), Hansa Rostock, Atalanta, and even an Arsenal and a Game Park (Djurgården).

    There could have been genuine native American counterparts for these-- Minnesota United FC plays not far from Pigs Eye Landing-- but instead MLS went from cheesy, often singular, World Football League-level names such as the Chicago Fire and the Dallas Burn to generic City FC (including the erstwhile Burn) or borrowing or renting actual club names from Europe such as "Sporting".

    It seems that half of them are the generic "United". Wednesday's Sheffield rivals were the first to go by that name, and it should have ended with them.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @sb, @Ganderson

  29. @SFG
    @Dream

    Ironically people from outside the West (the Western Bloc, really, look at Eastern Europe) are much less likely to swallow the trans stuff.

    Maybe the USA needs more actual Polish plumbers?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Wokechoke, @Rahan

    The Ukies and Poles are unwittingly swallowing all sorts of trans sausage. They just don’t have the smarts to see it yet.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @Wokechoke

    From their point of view Trans is a stupid fad that will mocked by the next generation. Russian rule takes decades or centuries to overturn. Trans people never organised a Katyn or a Bucha. Russians did. Choice is pretty clear.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  30. I think having a Conservative government in the UK has helped, coupled with trans issues becoming an election issue. In the recent leadership election(s) Penny Mordaunt’s support fell apart when she couldn’t properly explain what a woman is. Kemi Badenhoch (is she an iSteve reader?) sprang to fame based on her amazing grasp of basic biology.

    No-one from the left dared to criticise Kemi, in part due to her high intersectional pokemon score but also as they could see the potential issues with their target voters. Trans in the very few all girls university dorms is a mounting issue in the Asian communities.

    Events such as one of the new, improved type of women being caught in a domestic violence shelter would indicate the rot still runs deep (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11392601/Transgender-paedophile-caught-duping-staff-71-day-stay-domestic-violence-refuge.html).

  31. Give it a week.

    • Replies: @Barbarossa
    @Desiderius

    Yeah, they were further ahead on Trans and so the narrative has collapsed sooner. The cracks are already starting to show here too, though it's become quite entrenched in the bureaucracy.

  32. The language bubble isn’t just bubbly, it also distorts language so badly that I can’t parse what’s going on in the original tweet:

    The Cambridge college master who called a gender-critical speaker “hateful” has written to alumni after furious donors pulled funding. Prof Rogerson refused to apologise, but said there were “difficult and complex discussions” around trans matters.

    Does “gender-critical” mean critical of “assigned” gender* and/or critical from the point of view of gender and therefore pro-tranny, or does it mean critical of weird gender games and therefore anti-tranny? Whatever it is, the “master” seems to be the opposite, and then the donors seem to be the opposite of that. So I’m guessing anti-, pro-, anti-? But then there are big American donor foundations that would be pro-, so maybe it’s pro-, anti-, pro-.

    So confusing.

    But, as Derb said this week, “When your basic problem is reality itself, there is no solution.” Or something like that.

    ———

    *Has any tranny activist anywhere ever explained how it is that vast numbers of people are suddenly being “assigned” the wrong gender at birth? Like, if this is a real problem shouldn’t we retrain all doctors so they are not misled by false flags such as penises and vaginas? Is the fear that if we sat down every practicing doctor for tranny indoctrination it would lead to professional revolt?

    Or has any tranny activist explained what it means that you are different from your body? So you are a soul, right? Kind of like in religion? Somehow they never want to address the necessary implications of their statements.

    I’d like to know the metaphysics of how all these people (souls) get stuck in the “wrong” body. That would be interesting. Is there a new Affirmative Action angel in charge of incarnation who is effing up every third birth? Seriously, how do tranny activists explain this phenomenon?

    • Replies: @Carol
    @Almost Missouri

    You can do like I do and lurk where they think they can post safely. But then you may not want to go down that rabbit hole.

    Some of those poor girls think they can really change their sex. And I don't think they've ever been around a real man in their life. They tend to be on the short side and not very attractive anyway.

    Some of the older ones do seem to have more of a grip on it. Testosterone is a great mood booster, at least until their hair falls out. The facial hair and the voice change are forever.

    Who wants to be short AND bald?

    Anyway, I've come to the conclusion these male surgeons specializing in phalloplasty are just perfecting their art in order to enhance you less endowed dudes. Ka-ching!

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Ralph L

    , @SFG
    @Almost Missouri

    Seriously, endocrine disrupters. Tucker kind of talked about it in The End Of Men video, but it was mostly about straight men being less manly.

    Of course now it’s taken off since it gets you status as a teenager in a liberal area.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Almost Missouri

    https://www.barnhardt.biz/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/img_7556.jpg

  33. All “culture wars” are more extreme in the U.S. than in Europe, simply because Americans are more insane (or closer to the brainwashing eye of the hurricane).

    Europeans, despite brainwashing, still retain some modicum of common sense or social conservatism.

    That said, it’s pretty insane in Europe too, and I don’t think that “sanity is starting to win” in the UK, at all. That is in fact a very far-fetched thought that only iSteve could make.

    • Agree: propagandist hacker
    • Replies: @Sam hildebrand
    @Dumbo


    Europeans, despite brainwashing, still retain some modicum of common sense or social conservatism.
     
    I don’t know about that. In the US you only loose your job, bank account and twitter handle for speaking against trannies and Muslims and questioning the holocaust. In most of Europe you go to jail. To see the future of the US, just look at the present in Europe.
  34. The real question is why is Steve not writing about Kanye West or Kyrie Irving?

    Sports entertainment, race, religion, and the biggest, most public display of Jewish power in the US that we’ve ever seen. Yet, crickets from Steve. It doesn’t add up.

    Steve is purposely avoiding all of it. Why?

  35. @Almost Missouri
    The language bubble isn't just bubbly, it also distorts language so badly that I can't parse what's going on in the original tweet:

    The Cambridge college master who called a gender-critical speaker “hateful” has written to alumni after furious donors pulled funding. Prof Rogerson refused to apologise, but said there were "difficult and complex discussions" around trans matters.
     
    Does "gender-critical" mean critical of "assigned" gender* and/or critical from the point of view of gender and therefore pro-tranny, or does it mean critical of weird gender games and therefore anti-tranny? Whatever it is, the "master" seems to be the opposite, and then the donors seem to be the opposite of that. So I'm guessing anti-, pro-, anti-? But then there are big American donor foundations that would be pro-, so maybe it's pro-, anti-, pro-.

    So confusing.

    But, as Derb said this week, "When your basic problem is reality itself, there is no solution." Or something like that.

    ---------

    *Has any tranny activist anywhere ever explained how it is that vast numbers of people are suddenly being "assigned" the wrong gender at birth? Like, if this is a real problem shouldn't we retrain all doctors so they are not misled by false flags such as penises and vaginas? Is the fear that if we sat down every practicing doctor for tranny indoctrination it would lead to professional revolt?

    Or has any tranny activist explained what it means that you are different from your body? So you are a soul, right? Kind of like in religion? Somehow they never want to address the necessary implications of their statements.

    I'd like to know the metaphysics of how all these people (souls) get stuck in the "wrong" body. That would be interesting. Is there a new Affirmative Action angel in charge of incarnation who is effing up every third birth? Seriously, how do tranny activists explain this phenomenon?

    Replies: @Carol, @SFG, @Almost Missouri

    You can do like I do and lurk where they think they can post safely. But then you may not want to go down that rabbit hole.

    Some of those poor girls think they can really change their sex. And I don’t think they’ve ever been around a real man in their life. They tend to be on the short side and not very attractive anyway.

    Some of the older ones do seem to have more of a grip on it. Testosterone is a great mood booster, at least until their hair falls out. The facial hair and the voice change are forever.

    Who wants to be short AND bald?

    Anyway, I’ve come to the conclusion these male surgeons specializing in phalloplasty are just perfecting their art in order to enhance you less endowed dudes. Ka-ching!

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Carol


    you may not want to go down that rabbit hole.
     
    You're right, I don't. But then the rabbit hole has come to me from extended family members.

    They tend to be on the short side and not very attractive anyway.
     
    Short needn't be unattractive. There are many small attractive women. But maybe in this case there is an "intersection".

    In the case of my extended family member who decided she is not female, she was a reasonably attractive girl of normal height and weight, but she had already laid waste to a lot of that through a series of bad decisions before transmania came along. At that point, she may have thought that there wasn't much left to lose, and since being a female hadn't worked out so great, she may as well try the New Thing.

    I don’t think they’ve ever been around a real man in their life.
     
    In my family member's case, she was raised by liberals in one of the most liberal jurisdictions in the country, so yeah, she was probably underexposed to actual virility, to put it mildly.

    these male surgeons specializing in phalloplasty are just perfecting their art in order to enhance you less endowed dudes. Ka-ching!
     
    Do you think most of the surgeons doing these grotesqueries are male paraphiliacs? I mean, I would expect the median trans-surgeon to resemble Admiral Levine, yet the only trans-surgeons I've ever seen have all been surprisingly (and troublingly) normal-appearing women.

    Replies: @Flying Dutchman

    , @Ralph L
    @Carol

    If these girls are even a little bit attracted to guys, wouldn't they know being a short guy won't help attracting "straight" women? Are most of them attracted to women, or not sure?

    Until I read about autogynephilia here, I assumed most MtF were effeminate gay guys attracted to straight men (tranny hooker types), who didn't realize the men they'd attract as women aren't exactly normal straights.

    No wonder some trans are so angry, when they limit their pool of possible sex partners so much.

  36. It’s the chemicals. The United States has very lax regulation of some serious estrogen mimics.

  37. Anonymous[841] • Disclaimer says:

    No, Steve.

    It’s merely the ‘five, ten or whatever’ year time delay between the most egregious American trash being eagerly adopted with full gusto in the UK.

    Count on it.

    From fast food to New Labour, (Clinton clones), to mass third world immigration, to affirmative action etc etc, rely on UK trendies eagerly playing ‘follow my leader’ when it comes to the latest crap to emanate from the USA. The crucial juncture is when the trend has firmly bedded in, so to speak, in the American national psyche. Then the trendies, assured of their America envy, will make the decisive, final and successful push to impose the nonsense on the UK.

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  38. @Almost Missouri
    The language bubble isn't just bubbly, it also distorts language so badly that I can't parse what's going on in the original tweet:

    The Cambridge college master who called a gender-critical speaker “hateful” has written to alumni after furious donors pulled funding. Prof Rogerson refused to apologise, but said there were "difficult and complex discussions" around trans matters.
     
    Does "gender-critical" mean critical of "assigned" gender* and/or critical from the point of view of gender and therefore pro-tranny, or does it mean critical of weird gender games and therefore anti-tranny? Whatever it is, the "master" seems to be the opposite, and then the donors seem to be the opposite of that. So I'm guessing anti-, pro-, anti-? But then there are big American donor foundations that would be pro-, so maybe it's pro-, anti-, pro-.

    So confusing.

    But, as Derb said this week, "When your basic problem is reality itself, there is no solution." Or something like that.

    ---------

    *Has any tranny activist anywhere ever explained how it is that vast numbers of people are suddenly being "assigned" the wrong gender at birth? Like, if this is a real problem shouldn't we retrain all doctors so they are not misled by false flags such as penises and vaginas? Is the fear that if we sat down every practicing doctor for tranny indoctrination it would lead to professional revolt?

    Or has any tranny activist explained what it means that you are different from your body? So you are a soul, right? Kind of like in religion? Somehow they never want to address the necessary implications of their statements.

    I'd like to know the metaphysics of how all these people (souls) get stuck in the "wrong" body. That would be interesting. Is there a new Affirmative Action angel in charge of incarnation who is effing up every third birth? Seriously, how do tranny activists explain this phenomenon?

    Replies: @Carol, @SFG, @Almost Missouri

    Seriously, endocrine disrupters. Tucker kind of talked about it in The End Of Men video, but it was mostly about straight men being less manly.

    Of course now it’s taken off since it gets you status as a teenager in a liberal area.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @SFG


    Seriously, endocrine disrupters.
     
    Okay, but if it's endocrine disruptors, then shouldn't tranny activists be on the front lines of trying to ban endocrine disruptors? Instead, their solution is more and stronger endocrine disruptors (puberty blockers)!

    They seem to be saying, "Oh crap, artificial chemicals have messed up my hormonal system. Quick, get me even stronger chemicals to complete the destruction!"

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  39. @Dream
    Britain lost the other war.

    https://twitter.com/SAshworthHayes/status/1587777406299000833?t=0uDL-dd-SJU-iBaffX1jWw&s=19


    https://twitter.com/post_liberal/status/1588818602857484288?t=UsTTAoPR88coyc-ynrZ5tg&s=19

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @SFG, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @anonymouseperson

    The plain fact is that in the UK, there is simply *no possible democratic means* to restrict and reduce massive third world immigration.

    Everything else is just hot air.

  40. The Telegraph newspaper in the UK has details on the changes in the Britain’s National Health Service guidelines for transgender treatment of minors:

    Most children who think they’re transgender are just going through a ‘phase’, says NHS

    Doctors told not to encourage young people to change their names and pronouns

    Most children who believe that they are transgender are just going through a “phase”, the NHS has said, as it warns that doctors should not encourage them to change their names and pronouns.

    NHS England has announced plans for tightening controls on the treatment of under 18s questioning their gender, including a ban on prescribing puberty blockers outside of strict clinical trials.

    The services, which will replace the controversial Tavistock clinic, will be led by medical doctors rather than therapists and will consider the impact of other conditions such as autism and mental health issues.

    The plans, which are currently under public consultation, are for an interim service for young people with gender dysphoria whilst Dr Hilary Cass continues her review into the treatment offered by the NHS.

    They note that there is a need to change the services because there is currently “scarce and inconclusive evidence to support clinical decision-making”.

    NHS England says that the interim Cass Report has advised that even social transition, such as changing a young person’s name and pronouns or the way that they dress, is not a “neutral act” that could have “significant effects” in terms of “psychological functioning”.

    Parent groups and professionals have long raised concerns that NHS medics have taken an “affirmative” approach to treating children, including using their preferred names and pronouns.

    Be mindful of ‘transient phase’

    The proposals say that the new clinical approach will for younger children “reflect evidence that in most cases gender incongruence does not persist into adolescence” and doctors should be mindful this might be a “transient phase”.

    Instead of encouraging transition, medics should take “a watchful approach” to see how a young person’s conditions develop, the plans state.

    When a prepubescent child has already socially transitioned, “the clinical approach has to be mindful of the risks of an inappropriate gender transition and the difficulties that the child may experience in returning to the original gender role upon entering puberty if the gender incongruence does not persist”.

    For adolescents, social transition will only be considered when it is necessary for preventing “clinically significant distress” and when a young person “is able to fully comprehend the implications of affirming a social transition”, says NHS England.

    It adds that before medics change a young person’s name and pronouns, a teenager should have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria.

    The public consultation documents say that change is necessary against a backdrop of a sharp rise in referrals to the gender identity service, from just under 250 in 2011-12 to over 5,000 last year.

    In recent years there has also been a spike, with “the number of referrals currently at 8.7 per 100,000 population per year in 2021-22 compared to four per 100,000 in 2020-21 and 4.5 per 100,000 in 2019-20”.

    Tavistock closure

    The health service first announced in July that it would be closing the Tavistock and replacing it with two regional centres based in specialist children’s hospitals.

    The move is aimed at taking a more “holistic” approach to treating children and looking at the reasons why they are questioning their gender.

    It is expected that the regional centres will be operating by the spring, whilst long-term plans for the gender identity services for under 18s, based on the final recommendation of the Cass review, will come into effect in 2023-24.

    Rather than being delivered by therapists and hormone specialists, the new clinical teams will include experts “in paediatric medicine, autism, neurodisability and mental health”.

    The proposals note that a “significant proportion of children” who are referred for treatment have neuro-development issues or family of social problems.

    The new treatment teams will be led by a medical doctor and the service will only take referrals from GPs and other NHS professionals.

    NHS England will also “strongly discourage” young people from buying hormones from private clinicians and will not accept clinical responsibility for the treatment of those who have done so.

    The consultation on the plans closes in December.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/23/children-who-think-transgender-just-going-phase-says-nhs/

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @PiltdownMan

    This is important, but it's a "symptom," does not explain why NHS England decided to make this change towards sanity. For that matter, what is NHS Scotland doing?

    Lots of good comments so far, some bad ones that don't address the "What's different between the two?" The only thing I can contribute so far is that England has had a hostile ruling elite since 1066, although that works both ways, everything from its stratagems all the way to brute exercises in power, and the people's resistance to it.

    OK, overt Third Worlders have accumulated a lot of power, Mayor of London, now the PM, they are potentially not as crazy as the Westerners and Jews who are pushing World War T there (the PM was born and raised here, so who knows?).

    Replies: @AKAHorace

  41. As you yourself have pointed our Steve, the American left is dominated by an anti-white coalition which has captured one of the main parties and is far more extreme in its loathing of ‘traditional values’ (which means white Christians) than anything elsewhere in the West…..thus far.

    It’s probably not that hard to get BLM supporters to threaten violence against ‘anti trans hate speech’ because to them ‘anti trans’ goes hand in hand with whiteness and Christianity. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and all that, and they are victims of the white, male patriarchy.

  42. @Polistra
    Britain has its share of wackos, but nowhere near as many as the USA does.

    And yes, iSteve spergs, I do mean per capita.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Alyosha, @JBond

    They are just nuts in different ways. We aren’t quite yet jailing people for mean tweets like they do, for example. But we’re getting there.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
  43. @Dream
    Britain lost the other war.

    https://twitter.com/SAshworthHayes/status/1587777406299000833?t=0uDL-dd-SJU-iBaffX1jWw&s=19


    https://twitter.com/post_liberal/status/1588818602857484288?t=UsTTAoPR88coyc-ynrZ5tg&s=19

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @SFG, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @anonymouseperson

    In the 1930s, Britons could spell minuscule and parents‘. Standards have lowered.

    Then again, maybe the latter isn’t an error. He might have had one parent, whose “gender” he doesn’t reveal. Standards have lowered.

    A boy in my year at school was murdered…

    At least he was wearing a uniform!

    Ban on ‘saggy pants’ overturned after 13 years in South Florida city

    • Replies: @Tony
    @Reg Cæsar

    How does the asshole in the blue jeans keep his pants from falling all the way down?

    , @SaneClownPosse
    @Reg Cæsar

    I suspect it was overturned after someone pointed out that the droopy pants signal the wearer's willingness to be the receiver of anal sex, which triggered the gay rights crowd.

    Probably, like many ghetto fashion trends, it originated in prison.

  44. No doubt the constant lies -ever more strident and ever less based upon reality – that we have to tell about blacks aren’t helpful, but trans stuff seems to be a whole different category of lies. There are some black geniuses. There are zero biological males who are women.

  45. See link below to LSE pedo supporter attacking critics of trans movement, Jacob Breslau. This has all the hallmarks of an experiment, coming out of cybernetics, trans humanism, the internet, and the perfect environment for this to flourish, millions of teenagers terrorized into living their lives virtually. One of the local newspapers in my neck of the woods reported that surveys of middle schoolers in several well to do school districts show an increase of 100% of individuals disclosing self harm from the last survey taken in 2019 and the next survey done (the gap being due to the lockdown) in 2022. A full 24% of students now report incidents of self harm, over 12% in the prior survey. I wonder what percentage of these are preteen girls becoming even more dissatisfied with their body image and as a consequence are considering ‘top surgery’ to remedy their dissatisfaction. Of course this path is all very organic and has nothing to do with anonymous Reddit gangs promoting this.

    Thanks Steve and Ron. ‘Do you wanna kill grandma Steve?’

    https://sex-matters.org/posts/updates/lse-letter/

  46. @PiltdownMan
    The Telegraph newspaper in the UK has details on the changes in the Britain's National Health Service guidelines for transgender treatment of minors:

    Most children who think they’re transgender are just going through a ‘phase’, says NHS

    Doctors told not to encourage young people to change their names and pronouns

    Most children who believe that they are transgender are just going through a “phase”, the NHS has said, as it warns that doctors should not encourage them to change their names and pronouns.

    NHS England has announced plans for tightening controls on the treatment of under 18s questioning their gender, including a ban on prescribing puberty blockers outside of strict clinical trials.

    The services, which will replace the controversial Tavistock clinic, will be led by medical doctors rather than therapists and will consider the impact of other conditions such as autism and mental health issues.

    The plans, which are currently under public consultation, are for an interim service for young people with gender dysphoria whilst Dr Hilary Cass continues her review into the treatment offered by the NHS.

    They note that there is a need to change the services because there is currently “scarce and inconclusive evidence to support clinical decision-making”.

    NHS England says that the interim Cass Report has advised that even social transition, such as changing a young person’s name and pronouns or the way that they dress, is not a “neutral act” that could have “significant effects” in terms of “psychological functioning”.

    Parent groups and professionals have long raised concerns that NHS medics have taken an “affirmative” approach to treating children, including using their preferred names and pronouns.

    Be mindful of 'transient phase'

    The proposals say that the new clinical approach will for younger children “reflect evidence that in most cases gender incongruence does not persist into adolescence” and doctors should be mindful this might be a “transient phase”.

    Instead of encouraging transition, medics should take “a watchful approach” to see how a young person’s conditions develop, the plans state.

    When a prepubescent child has already socially transitioned, “the clinical approach has to be mindful of the risks of an inappropriate gender transition and the difficulties that the child may experience in returning to the original gender role upon entering puberty if the gender incongruence does not persist”.

    For adolescents, social transition will only be considered when it is necessary for preventing “clinically significant distress” and when a young person “is able to fully comprehend the implications of affirming a social transition”, says NHS England.

    It adds that before medics change a young person's name and pronouns, a teenager should have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria.

    The public consultation documents say that change is necessary against a backdrop of a sharp rise in referrals to the gender identity service, from just under 250 in 2011-12 to over 5,000 last year.

    In recent years there has also been a spike, with “the number of referrals currently at 8.7 per 100,000 population per year in 2021-22 compared to four per 100,000 in 2020-21 and 4.5 per 100,000 in 2019-20”.

    Tavistock closure

    The health service first announced in July that it would be closing the Tavistock and replacing it with two regional centres based in specialist children’s hospitals.

    The move is aimed at taking a more “holistic” approach to treating children and looking at the reasons why they are questioning their gender.

    It is expected that the regional centres will be operating by the spring, whilst long-term plans for the gender identity services for under 18s, based on the final recommendation of the Cass review, will come into effect in 2023-24.

    Rather than being delivered by therapists and hormone specialists, the new clinical teams will include experts “in paediatric medicine, autism, neurodisability and mental health”.

    The proposals note that a “significant proportion of children” who are referred for treatment have neuro-development issues or family of social problems.

    The new treatment teams will be led by a medical doctor and the service will only take referrals from GPs and other NHS professionals.

    NHS England will also “strongly discourage” young people from buying hormones from private clinicians and will not accept clinical responsibility for the treatment of those who have done so.

    The consultation on the plans closes in December.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/23/children-who-think-transgender-just-going-phase-says-nhs/

     

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    This is important, but it’s a “symptom,” does not explain why NHS England decided to make this change towards sanity. For that matter, what is NHS Scotland doing?

    Lots of good comments so far, some bad ones that don’t address the “What’s different between the two?” The only thing I can contribute so far is that England has had a hostile ruling elite since 1066, although that works both ways, everything from its stratagems all the way to brute exercises in power, and the people’s resistance to it.

    OK, overt Third Worlders have accumulated a lot of power, Mayor of London, now the PM, they are potentially not as crazy as the Westerners and Jews who are pushing World War T there (the PM was born and raised here, so who knows?).

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
    @That Would Be Telling


    This is important, but it’s a “symptom,” does not explain why NHS England decided to make this change towards sanity. For that matter, what is NHS Scotland doing?
     
    Part of the rejection of Transgenderisms in England is a contempt and envy of the US, as a larger more important part of the English speaking world. However, for the same motive, Ireland and Scotland show their contempt of England by being relatively pro-Transgender.
  47. I wonder if part of the answer might be that UK has a faster feedback mechanism than does the US. The Parliamentary government of UK might induce more rapid feedback generally.

    The US system is about to get a major shock in the midterm elections. A massive rejection of the left will propagate up the hierarchy of leftist institutions, hitting first the Dem party, then the media supporting it, then (though to a lesser extent) the NGOs and academics behind the most extreme leftist policies.

    But even the best insulated segments, the NGOs and academics, will likely feel obliged to pull back on their positions if they are themselves spurned as embarrassments by both the media and the Dem party.

    • Thanks: Mark G.
  48. @SFG
    @Almost Missouri

    Seriously, endocrine disrupters. Tucker kind of talked about it in The End Of Men video, but it was mostly about straight men being less manly.

    Of course now it’s taken off since it gets you status as a teenager in a liberal area.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Seriously, endocrine disrupters.

    Okay, but if it’s endocrine disruptors, then shouldn’t tranny activists be on the front lines of trying to ban endocrine disruptors? Instead, their solution is more and stronger endocrine disruptors (puberty blockers)!

    They seem to be saying, “Oh crap, artificial chemicals have messed up my hormonal system. Quick, get me even stronger chemicals to complete the destruction!”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Almost Missouri


    Instead, their solution is more and stronger endocrine disruptors (puberty blockers)!

    They seem to be saying, “Oh crap, artificial chemicals have messed up my hormonal system. Quick, get me even stronger chemicals to complete the destruction!”
     
    Why does this sound familiar?


    https://quotefancy.com/media/wallpaper/thumb/1502186-Al-Smith-Quote-All-the-ills-of-democracy-can-be-cured-by-more.jpg


    (This is from 1923, a decade before Smith turned on FDR. Guess he had second thoughts!)
  49. @Altai
    It's not just Britain, transmania isn't even making as big a stride in Canada. I suspect that ultimately both the US being so huge and now such an atomised place that connection to reality is no longer needed. Teenage girls have lost their minds with social media since it's a media source created and interacted by and for them and inevitably goes off the rails as Tumblr, Twitter, TikTok and Instagram attest. This was the great sea-change in the internet that led to the 'Great Awokening', teenage girls on social media. American teenage girls are spreading this madness on the internet with it's spread very closely matching how proficient in English people in other countries are.

    The other big factor is the medical system in the US. Almost everywhere else these kinds of services are done by state medical providers (At least locally, plenty of private clinic butchers in South East Asia are willing to destroy paying client's lives) and these are ultimately accountable for what they are spending public resources on and why.

    In the US there isn't the same pressure points or accountability on medical professionals since almost all 'gender reassignment' services are private and operate in the gray area of elective cosmetic surgery. The relevant medical associations are also totally insane and controlled by trans activists.

    I was watching the MLS final last night, the LAFC 'ultras' (The typical obnoxious cringe LARPers you find in the MLS) had a giant trans flag bigger than any of the LAFC flags in their section.

    It's just dumb political tribalism that has much more salience in the US too.

    For example here is a famous Swedish investigative programme for the state broadcaster, SVT, which focuses on the responsibility of state medical providers in their use of this treatment for children. That context doesn't exist in the US so that point of legal and political accountability never explodes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPNSWjjAzD

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Professional Slav, @YetAnotherAnon, @Dmon, @Peter Akuleyev, @Russ

    Says the video isn’t available anymore. I wonder why.

  50. Why Is World War T Winning in U.S. But Starting to Lose in U.K.?

    First of all, is this really true? I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.

    2nd, Britain (or at least England) is small enough that it doesn’t have a Federal system. The entire UK would fit inside California, with room to spare. So it’s more useful to compare US states to the UK. Would you say that World War T is winning more in the UK than it is in Florida, for example?

    3rd, does the above headline really prove that “World War T is Starting to Lose in the UK”?

    It seems to me that there are skirmishes back and forth but no clear winner. A talk given by a speaker who is critical of transgenderism was the subject of an announced boycott by some Cambridge dons. This is about what you would expect to happen at a liberal university in America (except here Leftists might try to shout down such a speaker and Leftists no longer bother to say that they are in favor of free speech as the UK profs said). Then some wealthy conservative donors to the U were critical of the boycott and threatened to withhold their donations. The pro-T professors refused to apologize. Again, this might have played out in the exact same way in the US.

    The UK pro-trans dons are still pro-trans but they have typical British humility because they at least acknowledged that the trans issue was “difficult and complex”. Americans in general tend to see the world in black and white terms and will not admit of any difficulty in their position. Whatever their position is is mandated by God (or in the case of Leftists, by the atheist equivalent of God) and people with other views are devils, period. Any admission of nuance is seen as a sign of weakness or insufficient devotion to the cause. I see this on both sides of all major issues in the US.

    • Replies: @raga10
    @Jack D


    I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.
     
    It was the Brits after all who gave us "Lumberjack song" all the way back in what was it - 70's? (I suggest downloading this clip if it still even exists in its original form before it gets removed or edited "for the modern audiences")

    This sudden explosion of interest in all things trans is just a storm in a teacup, the result of both sides of political spectrum picking it as their signature cause even though it really involves a very small proportion of people. Actually that might be precisely the reason they homed in on it - it's relatively safe because at the end of the day it doesn't really affect their bases. Everyone can virtue-signal for their chosen audience, pontificate for a bit, then go home and forget all about it.
    , @Wokechoke
    @Jack D

    There are transexual Admirals in the US system if you have f'rgetton...Admiral Levine.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @Graham
    @Jack D

    “I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.”

    Being ‘under a notion’ needs fact checking every now and then. Most British people are ‘under a notion’ that most Americans are fat ignoramuses in plaid jackets. They are also wrong. Now I have no idea whether transvestism is commoner right or left of the Atlantic; but what that has to do with WW T I don’t know, apart from the argument that men who recognise their autogynephilia for what it is are less likely to drug and mutilate themselves. Nevertheless, the current transgender crisis is mostly about female-to-male transitioning, and I don’t think there is such a thing as autoandrophilia.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anonymous

    , @Mike Tre
    @Jack D

    This one's for you, jacob!

    https://vidmax.com/video/215758-weird

    , @Curle
    @Jack D

    “Britain (or at least England) is small enough that it doesn’t have a Federal system.”

    Neither does the US as has been noted repeatedly since the civil war. As Donald Livingston notes, the US had an federal system but now it has one large state and 50 big counties.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Jack D

    I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.

    That actually testifies to British men being more rigid about gender than Americans. Men dressing up as women is only funny if it strikes you as absurd. A British man wearing women's clothing still remains a man, he doesn't for a second imagine he is actually a woman.

    Americans have always seemed less tied to gender than Europeans. The fact that American women lack some ineffable female charm and even seem kind of mannish was remarked upon by European men decades before transactivism reared its ugly head.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Curle

  51. Roughly 2 million students are enrolled in higher education during any given year in the UK, representing roughly 3.5% of the total population. In contrast, about 18 million students are enrolled in US colleges and universities each year, representing about 6% of the total population. This is a significant difference between the UK and America and is one reason the woke ideology has a stronger presence in America.

    Our education system is toxic for most young Americans, most of them should not be in college getting further indoctrinated. In addition to fewer college students in the UK they have higher rates of science and math degrees compares to the US. In the US most degree programs are in the social sciences, business, and law categories. About 40% of US degrees are awarded in these fields compared to 33% in higher education in the UK. with 14% of degrees in the US come from Science, mathematics, and engineering categories, compared to 24% of UK graduates.

    The US would be a far better nation if half the Universities were shut down and our high schools stopped pushing students to prepare for college and instead directed more effort to teaching the girls home economics and how to cook and become hairdressers while teaching the boys more practical skills and trades.

    • Replies: @MGB
    @Travis

    The boys need something to do with their practical skills. De industrialization has as much to do with feminizing the male as anything else.

  52. My guess is that it’s federalism and the lack of socialized medicine. Federalism means different laws in different states. Florida can outlaw trans surgeries (on minors, at least) but California can not only allow it, but mandate insurance coverage for it. In the US even some cities get in on the act of offering, or even mandating, insurance coverage for transgender surgeries.

    Socialized medicine means that there are fewer private entities pushing trans treatment and surgeries for all the money it brings in. Supposedly “gender confirmation surgeries” – a bullshit Orwellian term if ever there was one – are huge sources of income for places like Vanderbilt, with the added bonus of creating patients requiring lifetime care. The NHS gets a certain amount of money from the UK government, and if it at least attempts to carry out its fiduciary duty to the taxpayers, it’s going to try to ax treatments that are wasteful, useless, and actually harmful.

    And over and above all of this is the reality of deficit spending. The US can tolerate huge budget deficits because we have the world’s reserve currency. The ability of the government to spend money without having to tax the citizens to do so enables all kinds of stupidity that otherwise would not exist.

    • Agree: houston 1992
    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    @Wilkey

    The lack of socialized medicine in the US (combined with Jewish status) is a big part of why male genital mutilation is still a thing.

    Brits might be less nutty about trannies, but they are even more into negrolatry than Americans. Watch any British show from the last 5-10 years and the black men are all noble and sensitive while the white men are all villains.

    The UK might have the most pozzed elite in the West. Very sad to see how far they’ve fallen.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @epebble

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Wilkey


    My guess is that it’s federalism and the lack of socialized medicine. Federalism means different laws in different states.
     
    Canada is federal, and they socialized insurance rather than medicine itself. On the surface, at least, it resembles our Interstate Highway System-- the feds may pay, but the provinces own and run it.

    Socialized medicine requires significant taxes (and other sacrifices) on the middle class. You know how that works in America. Lee Kwan Yew could explain why it might have been more appealing to 1948 Britain than to the 21st-century "U" S of A.


    Socialized medicine means that there are fewer private entities...
     
    ...big enough to be...

    pushing trans treatment and surgeries for all the money it brings in.
     
    When the market demands crap, free enterprise delivers!
    , @Anonymous
    @Wilkey

    "My guess is that it’s federalism and the lack of socialized medicine."
    Good points.
    My guess is that socialized medicine is why it got farther, faster in the UK.
    But it is so repugnant to reasonable human sensibility that the backlash came sooner.
    In the US, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of those voting D this Tuesday have literally NO IDEA that this stuff even happens or regard it as some absurd "right wing" conspiracy theory.
    That's partly due to federalism and the mishmash of policies that fund the medical system.

  53. Does Britain have an oppression Olympics competition? Or to the same degree? That may explain it. Virtue through suffering.

  54. My guess is that a) academia doesn’t wield nearly as much cultural influence in the UK as it does in the US, and b) atomizing society into ever more discrete oppressed groups has been at the core of our leftist party’s political strategy longer than in the UK.

    Maybe another factor is our for-profit healthcare system encourages medical quackery. I am convinced there are enough doctors out there with flexible ethics who are willing to make a buck off of people’s desire for body modification.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Arclight

    "Maybe another factor is our for-profit healthcare system encourages medical quackery. "

    Bingo. Doctors, and surgeons especially, are not known for humility.

    Academia is more influential than ever now that nearly 50% of kids go to university, Jewish influence is pretty high, the same trends are being pushed by the same people - I think it's state-funded medicine that's the difference.

    Atm there are big waiting lists for treatment of all kinds, and nurses are about to strike for the first time ever. It's priorities, and cutting willies or breasts off comes well after breast cancer treatment. Mind, the NHS is still recruiting "diversity managers".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavistock_and_Portman_NHS_Foundation_Trust


    It is the largest provider of transgender services in England, but funding for the service has not kept pace with demand. In August 2019, 5,717 people were on the waiting list for a first appointment, and average waiting time was about two years.[21] The Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) at the Tavistock Centre has come under scrutiny due to reports that concerns over children's welfare were "shut down".[22] The Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust defended their practices.[22] In July 2022, following criticism in the interim report by Dr Hilary Cass, it was announced that this service would be discontinued and replaced with regional clinics providing a more "holistic" approach.[15]
     
  55. Maybe there are fewer billionaires in Britain, as compared to the US, who are personally invested in the tranny business?

  56. @Almost Missouri
    @SFG


    Seriously, endocrine disrupters.
     
    Okay, but if it's endocrine disruptors, then shouldn't tranny activists be on the front lines of trying to ban endocrine disruptors? Instead, their solution is more and stronger endocrine disruptors (puberty blockers)!

    They seem to be saying, "Oh crap, artificial chemicals have messed up my hormonal system. Quick, get me even stronger chemicals to complete the destruction!"

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Instead, their solution is more and stronger endocrine disruptors (puberty blockers)!

    They seem to be saying, “Oh crap, artificial chemicals have messed up my hormonal system. Quick, get me even stronger chemicals to complete the destruction!”

    Why does this sound familiar?

    (This is from 1923, a decade before Smith turned on FDR. Guess he had second thoughts!)

  57. @That Would Be Telling
    @PiltdownMan

    This is important, but it's a "symptom," does not explain why NHS England decided to make this change towards sanity. For that matter, what is NHS Scotland doing?

    Lots of good comments so far, some bad ones that don't address the "What's different between the two?" The only thing I can contribute so far is that England has had a hostile ruling elite since 1066, although that works both ways, everything from its stratagems all the way to brute exercises in power, and the people's resistance to it.

    OK, overt Third Worlders have accumulated a lot of power, Mayor of London, now the PM, they are potentially not as crazy as the Westerners and Jews who are pushing World War T there (the PM was born and raised here, so who knows?).

    Replies: @AKAHorace

    This is important, but it’s a “symptom,” does not explain why NHS England decided to make this change towards sanity. For that matter, what is NHS Scotland doing?

    Part of the rejection of Transgenderisms in England is a contempt and envy of the US, as a larger more important part of the English speaking world. However, for the same motive, Ireland and Scotland show their contempt of England by being relatively pro-Transgender.

    • Thanks: That Would Be Telling
  58. Anon[427] • Disclaimer says:

    My impression is that the Overton window has widened considerably in the U.S. as far as being able to criticize transgender ideology without career-ending cancellation. I also sense that the medical community and the psychiatric community are beginning to get cold feet about the whole matter, in light of widespread talk about lawsuits by detransitioners, particularly former teenaged natal girls. Rod Dreher at the American conservative recently wrote about the “Trans Tuskegee experiment,” a comparison that might catch on.

  59. @Altai
    It's not just Britain, transmania isn't even making as big a stride in Canada. I suspect that ultimately both the US being so huge and now such an atomised place that connection to reality is no longer needed. Teenage girls have lost their minds with social media since it's a media source created and interacted by and for them and inevitably goes off the rails as Tumblr, Twitter, TikTok and Instagram attest. This was the great sea-change in the internet that led to the 'Great Awokening', teenage girls on social media. American teenage girls are spreading this madness on the internet with it's spread very closely matching how proficient in English people in other countries are.

    The other big factor is the medical system in the US. Almost everywhere else these kinds of services are done by state medical providers (At least locally, plenty of private clinic butchers in South East Asia are willing to destroy paying client's lives) and these are ultimately accountable for what they are spending public resources on and why.

    In the US there isn't the same pressure points or accountability on medical professionals since almost all 'gender reassignment' services are private and operate in the gray area of elective cosmetic surgery. The relevant medical associations are also totally insane and controlled by trans activists.

    I was watching the MLS final last night, the LAFC 'ultras' (The typical obnoxious cringe LARPers you find in the MLS) had a giant trans flag bigger than any of the LAFC flags in their section.

    It's just dumb political tribalism that has much more salience in the US too.

    For example here is a famous Swedish investigative programme for the state broadcaster, SVT, which focuses on the responsibility of state medical providers in their use of this treatment for children. That context doesn't exist in the US so that point of legal and political accountability never explodes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPNSWjjAzD

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Professional Slav, @YetAnotherAnon, @Dmon, @Peter Akuleyev, @Russ

    “LAFC ‘ultras’ (The typical obnoxious cringe LARPers you find in the MLS) had a giant trans flag bigger than any of the LAFC flags”

    Pity. Nice to see Gareth Bale get on the field and score.

  60. @Arclight
    My guess is that a) academia doesn't wield nearly as much cultural influence in the UK as it does in the US, and b) atomizing society into ever more discrete oppressed groups has been at the core of our leftist party's political strategy longer than in the UK.

    Maybe another factor is our for-profit healthcare system encourages medical quackery. I am convinced there are enough doctors out there with flexible ethics who are willing to make a buck off of people's desire for body modification.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “Maybe another factor is our for-profit healthcare system encourages medical quackery. “

    Bingo. Doctors, and surgeons especially, are not known for humility.

    Academia is more influential than ever now that nearly 50% of kids go to university, Jewish influence is pretty high, the same trends are being pushed by the same people – I think it’s state-funded medicine that’s the difference.

    Atm there are big waiting lists for treatment of all kinds, and nurses are about to strike for the first time ever. It’s priorities, and cutting willies or breasts off comes well after breast cancer treatment. Mind, the NHS is still recruiting “diversity managers”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavistock_and_Portman_NHS_Foundation_Trust

    It is the largest provider of transgender services in England, but funding for the service has not kept pace with demand. In August 2019, 5,717 people were on the waiting list for a first appointment, and average waiting time was about two years.[21] The Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) at the Tavistock Centre has come under scrutiny due to reports that concerns over children’s welfare were “shut down”.[22] The Tavistock and Portman NHS Trust defended their practices.[22] In July 2022, following criticism in the interim report by Dr Hilary Cass, it was announced that this service would be discontinued and replaced with regional clinics providing a more “holistic” approach.[15]

  61. I don’t know how this plays out in so called civil society, but the stakes for individual activism on up are much greater in the U.K. Here in the US being anti-transsexual may get you or your entire state canceled, but in much of the rest of the West it can land you in prison. For women in the U.K., one that just might house one or more M->F rapists.

    See for example the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) and their “Homophobic, Biphobic and Transphobic Hate Crime – Prosecution Guidance“, for example go down about halfway to “Stirring up hatred on the grounds of sexual orientation” for thought crimes instead of enhancements to potentially real crimes.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @That Would Be Telling

    To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior "righteous indignation" -- this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats. -Aldous Huxley

  62. Advertising is truly hideous in the US. Advertisers here are more interested in social engineering and brain washing. Perhaps in Europe, advertisers are more interested in simply selling the product.

  63. @Wilkey
    My guess is that it's federalism and the lack of socialized medicine. Federalism means different laws in different states. Florida can outlaw trans surgeries (on minors, at least) but California can not only allow it, but mandate insurance coverage for it. In the US even some cities get in on the act of offering, or even mandating, insurance coverage for transgender surgeries.

    Socialized medicine means that there are fewer private entities pushing trans treatment and surgeries for all the money it brings in. Supposedly "gender confirmation surgeries" - a bullshit Orwellian term if ever there was one - are huge sources of income for places like Vanderbilt, with the added bonus of creating patients requiring lifetime care. The NHS gets a certain amount of money from the UK government, and if it at least attempts to carry out its fiduciary duty to the taxpayers, it's going to try to ax treatments that are wasteful, useless, and actually harmful.

    And over and above all of this is the reality of deficit spending. The US can tolerate huge budget deficits because we have the world's reserve currency. The ability of the government to spend money without having to tax the citizens to do so enables all kinds of stupidity that otherwise would not exist.

    Replies: @Ian Smith, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    The lack of socialized medicine in the US (combined with Jewish status) is a big part of why male genital mutilation is still a thing.

    Brits might be less nutty about trannies, but they are even more into negrolatry than Americans. Watch any British show from the last 5-10 years and the black men are all noble and sensitive while the white men are all villains.

    The UK might have the most pozzed elite in the West. Very sad to see how far they’ve fallen.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Ian Smith


    The lack of socialized medicine in the US (combined with Jewish status) is a big part of why male genital mutilation is still a thing.
     
    Call it "male genital mutilation" if you like, but the health benefits are substantial (reduced risk of UTIs, STDs, and cancers. Plus, women tend to prefer the look.

    Brits might be less nutty about trannies, but they are even more into negrolatry than Americans. Watch any British show from the last 5-10 years and the black men are all noble and sensitive while the white men are all villains. The UK might have the most pozzed elite in the West. Very sad to see how far they’ve fallen.
     
    True indeed. I have a family member attending grad school in London. She's pretty damn conservative, despite being female and a grad student, and finds the whole phenomenon seriously disturbing. Something like half the ads feature blacks, and you can't see a show on the West End without it having half a dozen blacks who are ridiculously out of place.

    Replies: @Curle, @Ian Smith, @Ian Smith, @Russ

    , @epebble
    @Ian Smith

    But FGM is still generally rejected (despite the lack of socialized medicine) as unacceptable (and involuntary) bodily harm.

    Replies: @Ian Smith

  64. @SFG
    @Dream

    Ironically people from outside the West (the Western Bloc, really, look at Eastern Europe) are much less likely to swallow the trans stuff.

    Maybe the USA needs more actual Polish plumbers?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Wokechoke, @Rahan

    Ironically people from outside the West (the Western Bloc, really, look at Eastern Europe) are much less likely to swallow the trans stuff.

    Maybe the USA needs more actual Polish plumbers?

    “Leaked memos show that the FBI has a made a list of all Polish plumbers as potential terrorist threats.”

  65. It’s the stupidity, stupid.

    How can people who can’t locate the Pacific Ocean on a map, multiply 5X5 without a calculator, or spell three-letter words, understand basic biology?

    People are paid to be stupid, spread stupidity, and celebrate stupidity. You can be stone cold stupid and be a Supreme Court Justice, Senator, President, Four Star General, or million dollar newscaster.

    The U.S. has been dumbed-down the drain.

  66. @Wilkey
    My guess is that it's federalism and the lack of socialized medicine. Federalism means different laws in different states. Florida can outlaw trans surgeries (on minors, at least) but California can not only allow it, but mandate insurance coverage for it. In the US even some cities get in on the act of offering, or even mandating, insurance coverage for transgender surgeries.

    Socialized medicine means that there are fewer private entities pushing trans treatment and surgeries for all the money it brings in. Supposedly "gender confirmation surgeries" - a bullshit Orwellian term if ever there was one - are huge sources of income for places like Vanderbilt, with the added bonus of creating patients requiring lifetime care. The NHS gets a certain amount of money from the UK government, and if it at least attempts to carry out its fiduciary duty to the taxpayers, it's going to try to ax treatments that are wasteful, useless, and actually harmful.

    And over and above all of this is the reality of deficit spending. The US can tolerate huge budget deficits because we have the world's reserve currency. The ability of the government to spend money without having to tax the citizens to do so enables all kinds of stupidity that otherwise would not exist.

    Replies: @Ian Smith, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    My guess is that it’s federalism and the lack of socialized medicine. Federalism means different laws in different states.

    Canada is federal, and they socialized insurance rather than medicine itself. On the surface, at least, it resembles our Interstate Highway System– the feds may pay, but the provinces own and run it.

    Socialized medicine requires significant taxes (and other sacrifices) on the middle class. You know how that works in America. Lee Kwan Yew could explain why it might have been more appealing to 1948 Britain than to the 21st-century “U” S of A.

    Socialized medicine means that there are fewer private entities…

    …big enough to be…

    pushing trans treatment and surgeries for all the money it brings in.

    When the market demands crap, free enterprise delivers!

  67. @Reg Cæsar
    @Dream

    In the 1930s, Britons could spell minuscule and parents'. Standards have lowered.

    Then again, maybe the latter isn't an error. He might have had one parent, whose "gender" he doesn't reveal. Standards have lowered.



    A boy in my year at school was murdered...
     
    At least he was wearing a uniform!

    Ban on 'saggy pants' overturned after 13 years in South Florida city

    https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox6now.com/www.fox6now.com/content/uploads/2020/09/764/432/GettyImages-476794960-e1600043794190.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

    Replies: @Tony, @SaneClownPosse

    How does the asshole in the blue jeans keep his pants from falling all the way down?

  68. @Altai
    It's not just Britain, transmania isn't even making as big a stride in Canada. I suspect that ultimately both the US being so huge and now such an atomised place that connection to reality is no longer needed. Teenage girls have lost their minds with social media since it's a media source created and interacted by and for them and inevitably goes off the rails as Tumblr, Twitter, TikTok and Instagram attest. This was the great sea-change in the internet that led to the 'Great Awokening', teenage girls on social media. American teenage girls are spreading this madness on the internet with it's spread very closely matching how proficient in English people in other countries are.

    The other big factor is the medical system in the US. Almost everywhere else these kinds of services are done by state medical providers (At least locally, plenty of private clinic butchers in South East Asia are willing to destroy paying client's lives) and these are ultimately accountable for what they are spending public resources on and why.

    In the US there isn't the same pressure points or accountability on medical professionals since almost all 'gender reassignment' services are private and operate in the gray area of elective cosmetic surgery. The relevant medical associations are also totally insane and controlled by trans activists.

    I was watching the MLS final last night, the LAFC 'ultras' (The typical obnoxious cringe LARPers you find in the MLS) had a giant trans flag bigger than any of the LAFC flags in their section.

    It's just dumb political tribalism that has much more salience in the US too.

    For example here is a famous Swedish investigative programme for the state broadcaster, SVT, which focuses on the responsibility of state medical providers in their use of this treatment for children. That context doesn't exist in the US so that point of legal and political accountability never explodes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPNSWjjAzD

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Professional Slav, @YetAnotherAnon, @Dmon, @Peter Akuleyev, @Russ

    “The other big factor is the medical system in the US. Almost everywhere else these kinds of services are done by state medical providers…”

    A combination of this and the fact that there are alot more Muslims as a percent of the population in England. In particular, there are 1.3M Muslims in London (roughly 15% of the city population), which one would assume is where most of the impetus for destructive woke policies comes from. So there is pushback against Trannyism in the UK for the same kind of reason that there is collapse of civil society in Minneapolis. You get 15% of the population with 100% cohesion (i.e., hatred of the existing inhabitants), and you can run the place.

  69. @Altai
    It's not just Britain, transmania isn't even making as big a stride in Canada. I suspect that ultimately both the US being so huge and now such an atomised place that connection to reality is no longer needed. Teenage girls have lost their minds with social media since it's a media source created and interacted by and for them and inevitably goes off the rails as Tumblr, Twitter, TikTok and Instagram attest. This was the great sea-change in the internet that led to the 'Great Awokening', teenage girls on social media. American teenage girls are spreading this madness on the internet with it's spread very closely matching how proficient in English people in other countries are.

    The other big factor is the medical system in the US. Almost everywhere else these kinds of services are done by state medical providers (At least locally, plenty of private clinic butchers in South East Asia are willing to destroy paying client's lives) and these are ultimately accountable for what they are spending public resources on and why.

    In the US there isn't the same pressure points or accountability on medical professionals since almost all 'gender reassignment' services are private and operate in the gray area of elective cosmetic surgery. The relevant medical associations are also totally insane and controlled by trans activists.

    I was watching the MLS final last night, the LAFC 'ultras' (The typical obnoxious cringe LARPers you find in the MLS) had a giant trans flag bigger than any of the LAFC flags in their section.

    It's just dumb political tribalism that has much more salience in the US too.

    For example here is a famous Swedish investigative programme for the state broadcaster, SVT, which focuses on the responsibility of state medical providers in their use of this treatment for children. That context doesn't exist in the US so that point of legal and political accountability never explodes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPNSWjjAzD

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Professional Slav, @YetAnotherAnon, @Dmon, @Peter Akuleyev, @Russ

    transmania isn’t even making as big a stride in Canada

    Depends. The Canadian legal system is more pro trans than the US. Anglo Montreal is also probably the North American capital of Trans. Maybe the Asian communities in Vancouver and Toronto are a little more sensible, as well as the good people of Saskatchewan.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Asian communities have higher levels of transsexuality.

  70. @That Would Be Telling
    I don't know how this plays out in so called civil society, but the stakes for individual activism on up are much greater in the U.K. Here in the US being anti-transsexual may get you or your entire state canceled, but in much of the rest of the West it can land you in prison. For women in the U.K., one that just might house one or more M->F rapists.

    See for example the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) and their "Homophobic, Biphobic and Transphobic Hate Crime - Prosecution Guidance", for example go down about halfway to "Stirring up hatred on the grounds of sexual orientation" for thought crimes instead of enhancements to potentially real crimes.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior “righteous indignation” — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats. -Aldous Huxley

    • Agree: Farenheit
  71. Probably because the English have more experience with transvestism.

    The Rolling Stones, 1966
    “Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standin’ In The Shadow?”

    • LOL: hhsiii
    • Replies: @BB753
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Can anybody imagine these sketches on tv now? That was less than 20 years ago.
    https://youtu.be/G5ykpBEy95I

    Replies: @BB753

    , @MEH 0910
    @Buzz Mohawk

    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1589202724343934977

    https://twitter.com/scjohnson90/status/1589207369644265472
    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1589212600369557505

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  72. @Jack D

    Why Is World War T Winning in U.S. But Starting to Lose in U.K.?
     
    First of all, is this really true? I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.

    2nd, Britain (or at least England) is small enough that it doesn't have a Federal system. The entire UK would fit inside California, with room to spare. So it's more useful to compare US states to the UK. Would you say that World War T is winning more in the UK than it is in Florida, for example?

    3rd, does the above headline really prove that "World War T is Starting to Lose in the UK"?

    It seems to me that there are skirmishes back and forth but no clear winner. A talk given by a speaker who is critical of transgenderism was the subject of an announced boycott by some Cambridge dons. This is about what you would expect to happen at a liberal university in America (except here Leftists might try to shout down such a speaker and Leftists no longer bother to say that they are in favor of free speech as the UK profs said). Then some wealthy conservative donors to the U were critical of the boycott and threatened to withhold their donations. The pro-T professors refused to apologize. Again, this might have played out in the exact same way in the US.

    The UK pro-trans dons are still pro-trans but they have typical British humility because they at least acknowledged that the trans issue was "difficult and complex". Americans in general tend to see the world in black and white terms and will not admit of any difficulty in their position. Whatever their position is is mandated by God (or in the case of Leftists, by the atheist equivalent of God) and people with other views are devils, period. Any admission of nuance is seen as a sign of weakness or insufficient devotion to the cause. I see this on both sides of all major issues in the US.

    Replies: @raga10, @Wokechoke, @Graham, @Mike Tre, @Curle, @Peter Akuleyev

    I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.

    It was the Brits after all who gave us “Lumberjack song” all the way back in what was it – 70’s? (I suggest downloading this clip if it still even exists in its original form before it gets removed or edited “for the modern audiences”)

    This sudden explosion of interest in all things trans is just a storm in a teacup, the result of both sides of political spectrum picking it as their signature cause even though it really involves a very small proportion of people. Actually that might be precisely the reason they homed in on it – it’s relatively safe because at the end of the day it doesn’t really affect their bases. Everyone can virtue-signal for their chosen audience, pontificate for a bit, then go home and forget all about it.

  73. Anonymous[954] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dream
    Britain lost the other war.

    https://twitter.com/SAshworthHayes/status/1587777406299000833?t=0uDL-dd-SJU-iBaffX1jWw&s=19


    https://twitter.com/post_liberal/status/1588818602857484288?t=UsTTAoPR88coyc-ynrZ5tg&s=19

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @SFG, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @anonymouseperson

    My friend, who is an American, moved to London, and opened a small gift store in a very nice neighborhood in London. This was the late ’80’s, and most of the Brit’s only had abstract ideas about black people, while my friend was very knowledgeable about them, having come from America.

    So one day, two African immigrants entered the store, while yelling/singing some rap lyrics. They were the blue/black looking type with African accents. My friend, knowing what to expect since he was originally from Los Angeles, grasped the heavy, wood baseball bat he had under the cash register.

    One of them, while grinning, closed the front door, and locked it, while the other one, smiling and yelling his rap song, proceeded to walk up to my friend, still behind the counter, and high-jumped up upon the counter. At this stage, my friend, without saying a word, whipped out the baseball bat, and started beating the shit out of the black guy, as he fell backward, and off the counter.

    He saw the other black guy, wide-eyed with fear, unlock the door and run out. The other one followed, screaming like an animal, as my friend got a couple of more swings on him. He said he had to have broken some bones, as he connected pretty well a couple of times. He kept aiming to take the guy’s head off, but kept missing. On his way out African thug trashed a few of my friends displays. The store was fairly trashed after all this.

    It was unusual for my friend to have been minding the counter on that day, at that time. Usually, his employee, a young girl, was working there, but had called in sick that day. He shuddered to think of what would have happened if she had been there when the African immigrants decided to rob his store, with her there alone. He also felt lucky that he knew enough about black people to have a baseball bat ready to go the moment they entered the store. It was the first and only time he’s had to use it. The Africans were quite large, and he said he wouldn’t have had a chance against them without the bat. He said a typical Brit would have not been ready with a bat. They wouldn’t have known what to do.

    Anyway, he never saw them again, and for the next few years, the experience with the Africans worried him, as he noticed more and more of them on the streets of London, many of them pulling street scams, as well as the crime increase related to them, and he went on to close his store, and sell his goods exclusively via the internet.

    The last time I visited London was in the early 2000’s. My friend said that, thanks to England’s bizarre immigration policy of unchecked increase of Muslims and Africans, that version of London is gone, and it’s never coming back.

    It’s a shame that a culture with so much history, with so much blood and treasure spent during two world wars to keep it intact, is going to be eliminated within a couple of generations, as if they’d lost a war against Nigeria and Pakistan.

    The saddest fact remains… when Hitler declared war on Poland and Russia, we all should identified it as a local civil war, have stayed the fuck out of it.

    All that money spent. All those American/British dead. All those destroyed cities.

    For nothing.

    • Agree: Gordo, The Anti-Gnostic
    • Thanks: Thoughts
    • Replies: @Sam Malone
    @Anonymous

    Thanks for the anecdote. The white race deserves to die at this point.

  74. Maybe because of “educated” white women ????

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @CCZ


    Michigan attorney general @dananessel calls for drag queens for every school.
     
    Wasn't that a line in a Jan and Dean song? "TERF City, USA".

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

  75. @Jack D

    Why Is World War T Winning in U.S. But Starting to Lose in U.K.?
     
    First of all, is this really true? I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.

    2nd, Britain (or at least England) is small enough that it doesn't have a Federal system. The entire UK would fit inside California, with room to spare. So it's more useful to compare US states to the UK. Would you say that World War T is winning more in the UK than it is in Florida, for example?

    3rd, does the above headline really prove that "World War T is Starting to Lose in the UK"?

    It seems to me that there are skirmishes back and forth but no clear winner. A talk given by a speaker who is critical of transgenderism was the subject of an announced boycott by some Cambridge dons. This is about what you would expect to happen at a liberal university in America (except here Leftists might try to shout down such a speaker and Leftists no longer bother to say that they are in favor of free speech as the UK profs said). Then some wealthy conservative donors to the U were critical of the boycott and threatened to withhold their donations. The pro-T professors refused to apologize. Again, this might have played out in the exact same way in the US.

    The UK pro-trans dons are still pro-trans but they have typical British humility because they at least acknowledged that the trans issue was "difficult and complex". Americans in general tend to see the world in black and white terms and will not admit of any difficulty in their position. Whatever their position is is mandated by God (or in the case of Leftists, by the atheist equivalent of God) and people with other views are devils, period. Any admission of nuance is seen as a sign of weakness or insufficient devotion to the cause. I see this on both sides of all major issues in the US.

    Replies: @raga10, @Wokechoke, @Graham, @Mike Tre, @Curle, @Peter Akuleyev

    There are transexual Admirals in the US system if you have f’rgetton…Admiral Levine.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Wokechoke

    USPHS Admirals are not Admirals.

  76. @Buzz Mohawk
    Probably because the English have more experience with transvestism.


    https://img.apmcdn.org/d122c4b59af1c352e04d53badbcced2a67e652d9/uncropped/4ea853-20140804-stones-drag.jpg
    The Rolling Stones, 1966
    "Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standin' In The Shadow?"

    Replies: @BB753, @MEH 0910

    Can anybody imagine these sketches on tv now? That was less than 20 years ago.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @BB753

    The answer lies here: Britain's most popular pastime is transvestism.
    https://youtu.be/vvH1LLZeef4

  77. @anonymous
    The US is 2-3% Jewish while UK is 0.5% Jewish. At the helm of movements to move society away from the white and religious nuclear family are Jewish intellectuals. It could be there are fewer Jewish intellectuals in the UK so less intense pressure to hold the line.

    At the same time Jews are able to create a lot of wealth. The UK is poorer than the US. The GDP per capita of both places with adjusting for purchasing power was $70,000 compared to $47,000 last year. This is despite the fact the UK has a lot better demographics. The UK is 86% white while the US is down to 57.8% non-Hispanic white from the 2020 Census.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Graham, @Mr. Grey, @Exile, @Snorri Godhi

    I think more important factors are our much higher taxes, especially the marginal rates affecting entrepreneurs, our smaller internal market, and our greater burden of restrictive legislation; although I admit I don’t have figures to back up the third factor, just a general impression.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Graham

    “our much higher taxes, especially the marginal rates affecting entrepreneurs, our smaller internal market.”

    Smaller internal market? Really? Much higher taxes? Really?

    I’m surprised by both of these claims. I’ve no proof against them, but the history of rock bands fleeing high tax Britain remains in my memory.

    Replies: @hhsiii

    , @anonymous
    @Graham

    Would a smaller internal market have an effect on per capita GDP?

  78. @Jack D

    Why Is World War T Winning in U.S. But Starting to Lose in U.K.?
     
    First of all, is this really true? I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.

    2nd, Britain (or at least England) is small enough that it doesn't have a Federal system. The entire UK would fit inside California, with room to spare. So it's more useful to compare US states to the UK. Would you say that World War T is winning more in the UK than it is in Florida, for example?

    3rd, does the above headline really prove that "World War T is Starting to Lose in the UK"?

    It seems to me that there are skirmishes back and forth but no clear winner. A talk given by a speaker who is critical of transgenderism was the subject of an announced boycott by some Cambridge dons. This is about what you would expect to happen at a liberal university in America (except here Leftists might try to shout down such a speaker and Leftists no longer bother to say that they are in favor of free speech as the UK profs said). Then some wealthy conservative donors to the U were critical of the boycott and threatened to withhold their donations. The pro-T professors refused to apologize. Again, this might have played out in the exact same way in the US.

    The UK pro-trans dons are still pro-trans but they have typical British humility because they at least acknowledged that the trans issue was "difficult and complex". Americans in general tend to see the world in black and white terms and will not admit of any difficulty in their position. Whatever their position is is mandated by God (or in the case of Leftists, by the atheist equivalent of God) and people with other views are devils, period. Any admission of nuance is seen as a sign of weakness or insufficient devotion to the cause. I see this on both sides of all major issues in the US.

    Replies: @raga10, @Wokechoke, @Graham, @Mike Tre, @Curle, @Peter Akuleyev

    “I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.”

    Being ‘under a notion’ needs fact checking every now and then. Most British people are ‘under a notion’ that most Americans are fat ignoramuses in plaid jackets. They are also wrong. Now I have no idea whether transvestism is commoner right or left of the Atlantic; but what that has to do with WW T I don’t know, apart from the argument that men who recognise their autogynephilia for what it is are less likely to drug and mutilate themselves. Nevertheless, the current transgender crisis is mostly about female-to-male transitioning, and I don’t think there is such a thing as autoandrophilia.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Graham

    Touchy, aren't we? Must have hit a nerve. I was just going by this:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Portrait_of_an_Unidentified_Woman%2C_traditionally_assumed_to_be_Lord_Cornbury.png


    Typical of provincial British portraiture of the early eighteenth century, this rather curious portrait of a woman had long been identified as a likeness of Edward Hyde, who carried the title Viscount Cornbury and was appointed Governor of the Province of New York and New Jersey by his cousin, Queen Anne, in 1702. Serving as Governor until 1708, Lord Cornbury was reported to have been "universally detested," and a fondness for cross-dressing accompanied his reputation as "half-witted." Popular legend had it that the Governor discredited his office by publicly appearing in women's attire, strolling Broadway - even opening the Assembly - in his wife's clothes. Hyde is also said to have held his state levees at New York, and received his visitors dressed up in complete female court costume, because he represented the person of a female Sovereign, his cousin Queen Anne.
     
    https://emuseum.nyhistory.org/objects/41409/portrait-of-an-unidentified-woman?ctx=13ba307c1f610b10dd104fb13832af589d3c5f68&idx=0

    And by Monty Python.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Graham

    , @Anonymous
    @Graham

    The British (and indeed, world) stereotype of Americans is fat people with guns. That latter thing probably explains this.

    British M2F transexuals are very militant. They've put several of their female critics (the so-called "TERFs") in hospital. This has obviously cost them a lot of sympathy among progressives who would otherwise be their biggest supporters.

    In America attacking random strangers with your fists is dangerous because they may pull out a gun and shoot you. (See Trayvon Martin). There's no danger of that happening in Britain.

    And of course, if your victim is an actual woman then there's also no danger that they may get up swinging and start hitting you back (Hollywood fantasies aside.)

  79. Why Is World War T Winning in U.S. But Starting to Lose in U.K.?

    This isn’t intended as an all encompassing explanation, but WWT extremism in the US may be a peripheral effect of what could be called the politics of wide open spaces aka (at least recently) Martha’s Vineyard syndrome. I.e., there’s enough room in the US for progressive elites to move away from whatever disastrous ideologically inspired policies they inflict on the masses – “Great Society”, school busing, devastating ’60’s era changes in immigration, affirmative action, severe restrictions on real estate sales that resulted in urban decay, etc., etc., etc. It’s a self-preservation approach similar to that of moguls and industrialists of the late 19th century. The UK has a much higher population density than the US, so it may be more difficult for elites to avoid the consequences of their absurd social policies, and they know it.

    Of course, the trans movement doesn’t have the same numbers and geographic element to it that class and race issues do in the US, but it exists in the same political environment. Who knows…this is speculation on my part.

  80. I think the opposition of British feminists (a little crankier and more contrary than American feminists) to trans absurdity prevented it from becoming a strict left vs right battle in Britain the way it is here. That deprived the trans activists of the automatic and unthinking support of 50% of the population. Since the right wing is against it here, everybody* on the left is going to dig in and fight to the last man no matter how obviously false and destructive their narrative is.

    *with the exception of some unfortunate parents who got redpilled by mobs calling them fascists because they weren’t enthusiastic about their daughters getting mutilated.

    • Replies: @Carol
    @Gongtao

    Helen Joyce, UK author of Trans, thinks Brit parents have been able to fight back because abortion isn't a big issue there.


    Abortion is not politicised, which makes it easier for left-wing feminists to work with Christian conservatives on a single-issue campaign.
     
    Highly recommend her book, which goes a lot deeper than the Abigail Schrier book. Though they are both essential reading.

    The rot is all over Europe.

  81. @Graham
    @Jack D

    “I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.”

    Being ‘under a notion’ needs fact checking every now and then. Most British people are ‘under a notion’ that most Americans are fat ignoramuses in plaid jackets. They are also wrong. Now I have no idea whether transvestism is commoner right or left of the Atlantic; but what that has to do with WW T I don’t know, apart from the argument that men who recognise their autogynephilia for what it is are less likely to drug and mutilate themselves. Nevertheless, the current transgender crisis is mostly about female-to-male transitioning, and I don’t think there is such a thing as autoandrophilia.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anonymous

    Touchy, aren’t we? Must have hit a nerve. I was just going by this:

    Typical of provincial British portraiture of the early eighteenth century, this rather curious portrait of a woman had long been identified as a likeness of Edward Hyde, who carried the title Viscount Cornbury and was appointed Governor of the Province of New York and New Jersey by his cousin, Queen Anne, in 1702. Serving as Governor until 1708, Lord Cornbury was reported to have been “universally detested,” and a fondness for cross-dressing accompanied his reputation as “half-witted.” Popular legend had it that the Governor discredited his office by publicly appearing in women’s attire, strolling Broadway – even opening the Assembly – in his wife’s clothes. Hyde is also said to have held his state levees at New York, and received his visitors dressed up in complete female court costume, because he represented the person of a female Sovereign, his cousin Queen Anne.

    https://emuseum.nyhistory.org/objects/41409/portrait-of-an-unidentified-woman?ctx=13ba307c1f610b10dd104fb13832af589d3c5f68&idx=0

    And by Monty Python.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Jack D

    "Rachel" Levine would be jealous if he saw that guy. That outfit is way better than an admiral's uniform, plus the five o'clock shadow sets it off nicely. Because being a tranny is all about looking ridiculous.

    , @Graham
    @Jack D

    Yeah, a little touchy, true. I just prefer evidence-based posting. No matter. But my main point remains. Male transvestites do no harm to themselves apart from making themselves ridiculous. The real issue is the brainwash-drug-mutilate sequence applied to female-to-male ‘transgender’ individuals. I am still in shock at the appearance of one such individual I have met.

    Replies: @SFG

  82. OT: More vax karma. Julie Powell gloats over deaths of unvaxed and regrets Covid didn’t kill Judge Kavanaugh.

    Three weeks later she dropped dead aged 49.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Rob McX


    Three weeks later she dropped dead aged 49.
     
    Oops - I didn't notice the year, it was 2021. She died two weeks ago.
    , @Muggles
    @Rob McX


    Three weeks later she dropped dead aged 49.
     
    So, more empirical evidence that God isn't dead!

    Replies: @Kylie

    , @Jack D
    @Rob McX

    Powell was a classic Leftist female mess. She probably drank way too much among other things. Some of her last tweets talk about how she wasn't feeling well - probably something was wrong with her that led up to her heart stopping.

    She had one big hit book (and a movie based off of it) The book somehow captured the zeitgeist - Americans love amateurs, despise professional expertise. They don't want some French dude with diplomas telling them exactly how to cook and producing results that they can only envy using razor sharp knives and copper pots. A slightly overweight incompetent female much like themselves who burns the onions a lot while working in a too small kitchen with a shitty NY landlord grade gas stove - they can identify with that.

    But the rest of her life was a mess. She was never able to capture lightning in a bottle again. Her 2nd book had way too much personal information about her sex life (especially considering she was married and the sex was not with her husband) as well as a description of how she trained to become a butcher (a profession that she did not thereafter actually follow) which did not resonate with the public, not even with her liberal female followers (in the case of butchering, ESPECIALLY with her liberal female followers). So there was never a 3rd book.

    The only consolation is that she never had any children.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @BB753, @Mr. Anon

    , @Jon
    @Rob McX

    Her last tweet is about having 'Black Hairy Tongue' and how everyone, including her doctor, told her it was nothing to worry about, oops.

  83. Touchy, aren’t we? Must have hit a nerve.

    Don’t we all.

  84. @Rob McX
    OT: More vax karma. Julie Powell gloats over deaths of unvaxed and regrets Covid didn't kill Judge Kavanaugh.

    https://twitter.com/licjulie/status/1443967802541551618?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1443967802541551618%7Ctwgr%5E85f7d63a6db7fdf6af88aea897f0a8732e210bc3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fjulie-powell-wished-death-on-the-unvaccinated-then-she-died-suddenly%2F

    Three weeks later she dropped dead aged 49.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Muggles, @Jack D, @Jon

    Three weeks later she dropped dead aged 49.

    Oops – I didn’t notice the year, it was 2021. She died two weeks ago.

  85. @Altai
    It's not just Britain, transmania isn't even making as big a stride in Canada. I suspect that ultimately both the US being so huge and now such an atomised place that connection to reality is no longer needed. Teenage girls have lost their minds with social media since it's a media source created and interacted by and for them and inevitably goes off the rails as Tumblr, Twitter, TikTok and Instagram attest. This was the great sea-change in the internet that led to the 'Great Awokening', teenage girls on social media. American teenage girls are spreading this madness on the internet with it's spread very closely matching how proficient in English people in other countries are.

    The other big factor is the medical system in the US. Almost everywhere else these kinds of services are done by state medical providers (At least locally, plenty of private clinic butchers in South East Asia are willing to destroy paying client's lives) and these are ultimately accountable for what they are spending public resources on and why.

    In the US there isn't the same pressure points or accountability on medical professionals since almost all 'gender reassignment' services are private and operate in the gray area of elective cosmetic surgery. The relevant medical associations are also totally insane and controlled by trans activists.

    I was watching the MLS final last night, the LAFC 'ultras' (The typical obnoxious cringe LARPers you find in the MLS) had a giant trans flag bigger than any of the LAFC flags in their section.

    It's just dumb political tribalism that has much more salience in the US too.

    For example here is a famous Swedish investigative programme for the state broadcaster, SVT, which focuses on the responsibility of state medical providers in their use of this treatment for children. That context doesn't exist in the US so that point of legal and political accountability never explodes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPNSWjjAzD

    Replies: @Ganderson, @Professional Slav, @YetAnotherAnon, @Dmon, @Peter Akuleyev, @Russ

    I was watching the MLS final last night, the LAFC ‘ultras’ (The typical obnoxious cringe LARPers you find in the MLS) had a giant trans flag bigger than any of the LAFC flags in their section.

    I too noticed this. In this vein, a few years ago when we channel-surfed across some NWSL women’s soccer game, my wife observed that they had about as many rainbow flags in the seats as spectators.

    I would never have seen that LAFC flag had I not tuned in expecting an early World Series pregame show on Fox. Rough night for Philly sports fans.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Russ

    I got within eye exchange distance of Hope Solo back when she was at the peak of her beauty and not yet married at an small and intimate event sitting an table away. She did not come across as one offended by the male gaze as her later selection of an high T b-ball player demonstrated. I found her striking.

    I afterwards wondered if her obvious, to me, orientation to males contributed to her unpopularity with that gang of lesbians in pro soccer. I also wonder, given the nature of this blog, whether her latest incident over drinking represents her Native American genes making their appearance?

    https://1010wcsi.com/fox-sports/police-video-shows-hope-solo-dragged-out-of-car-during-dwi-arrest-in-march/

    The story is instructive for one major lesson regarding interactions with police; never talk to police when drunk and stopped except in gestures or short utterances, preferably grunts, and never lower the window less than a few inches. They are always looking for the smell of alcohol to establish probable cause.

    , @Cool Daddy Jimbo
    @Russ


    I too noticed this. In this vein, a few years ago when we channel-surfed across some NWSL women’s soccer game, my wife observed that they had about as many rainbow flags in the seats as spectators.
     
    This will be the end of women's soccer in the USA. You know who supports women's soccer? Suburban dads. Suburban dads take their daughters to NWSL games. They liked women's soccer when it was peopled by fit, healthy, All-American girls, good role models for their nine-year-old daughters. Now it's a nonstop "Yay for Gay!" event. Suburban dads are going to quietly say, "fuck this" and find something else to do.

    Replies: @Jack P

  86. Follow the money.
    In the US, there is money for endless, lifelong follow-up injections and treatments. Patients are on the hook for ever. YOU pay for it, via higher premiums.
    In the UK, the NHS is broke and can hardly do ordinary surgeries, without a multi-year waiting list, let alone endless T-thing surgery.

    • Thanks: Curle, Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Hans Tholstrup


    In the UK, the NHS is broke and can hardly do ordinary surgeries, without a multi-year waiting list, let alone endless T-thing surgery.
     
    But... but... it works perfectly, every time! Just ask the Brits on Quora.com!

    That is, when they're not busy chiding us for Vermont's lax gun laws, which they seem to think apply nationwide. But they get a lot of assistance from Canadians and Australians in both.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  87. @Rob McX
    OT: More vax karma. Julie Powell gloats over deaths of unvaxed and regrets Covid didn't kill Judge Kavanaugh.

    https://twitter.com/licjulie/status/1443967802541551618?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1443967802541551618%7Ctwgr%5E85f7d63a6db7fdf6af88aea897f0a8732e210bc3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fjulie-powell-wished-death-on-the-unvaccinated-then-she-died-suddenly%2F

    Three weeks later she dropped dead aged 49.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Muggles, @Jack D, @Jon

    Three weeks later she dropped dead aged 49.

    So, more empirical evidence that God isn’t dead!

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Muggles

    "Three weeks later she [Julie Powell]dropped dead aged 49.

    So, more empirical evidence that God isn’t dead!"

    I wonder if God would be willing to supply more proof to the skeptics?

    Replies: @Jack D

  88. @Muggles
    @Rob McX


    Three weeks later she dropped dead aged 49.
     
    So, more empirical evidence that God isn't dead!

    Replies: @Kylie

    “Three weeks later she [Julie Powell]dropped dead aged 49.

    So, more empirical evidence that God isn’t dead!”

    I wonder if God would be willing to supply more proof to the skeptics?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Kylie

    I think God gets too much credit for this kind of stuff. God is not a micromanager. He has the whole universe to worry about. I always get a kick when MLB pitchers (usually Latino) make some gesture thanking God when they get out of a tough inning. Where was God when the other team was hitting home runs? How come God gets BOTH team's relievers out of tough innings? For every Julie Powell who overstayed her welcome (even though her life was not long) there is a George Gershwin gone much too soon.

    Replies: @BosTex, @Curle, @Kylie, @Ganderson

  89. @Rob McX
    OT: More vax karma. Julie Powell gloats over deaths of unvaxed and regrets Covid didn't kill Judge Kavanaugh.

    https://twitter.com/licjulie/status/1443967802541551618?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1443967802541551618%7Ctwgr%5E85f7d63a6db7fdf6af88aea897f0a8732e210bc3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fjulie-powell-wished-death-on-the-unvaccinated-then-she-died-suddenly%2F

    Three weeks later she dropped dead aged 49.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Muggles, @Jack D, @Jon

    Powell was a classic Leftist female mess. She probably drank way too much among other things. Some of her last tweets talk about how she wasn’t feeling well – probably something was wrong with her that led up to her heart stopping.

    She had one big hit book (and a movie based off of it) The book somehow captured the zeitgeist – Americans love amateurs, despise professional expertise. They don’t want some French dude with diplomas telling them exactly how to cook and producing results that they can only envy using razor sharp knives and copper pots. A slightly overweight incompetent female much like themselves who burns the onions a lot while working in a too small kitchen with a shitty NY landlord grade gas stove – they can identify with that.

    But the rest of her life was a mess. She was never able to capture lightning in a bottle again. Her 2nd book had way too much personal information about her sex life (especially considering she was married and the sex was not with her husband) as well as a description of how she trained to become a butcher (a profession that she did not thereafter actually follow) which did not resonate with the public, not even with her liberal female followers (in the case of butchering, ESPECIALLY with her liberal female followers). So there was never a 3rd book.

    The only consolation is that she never had any children.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D


    Powell was a classic Leftist female mess. She probably drank way too much among other things. Some of her last tweets talk about how she wasn’t feeling well – probably something was wrong with her that led up to her heart stopping.
     
    I believe she complained of suffering from "hairy black tongue" disease, which is most often related to very poor mouth hygiene. But in her case, due to all the other medical problems she was having, it might have been a sign her immune system was compromised, and perhaps slowly ebbing away. That’s how her twitter feed reads, anyway.

    Oddly, she seemed compelled to share that she was batshit crazy to boot.

    I've never understood people who use social media to share what a piece of shit they believe they are. I thought everyone has agreed to lie about that!

    Besides, declaring, with real world examples on social media, what a horrible person you believe you are bums your readers out, which seems like a bizarre goal. What compels one to impart their wretchedness to strangers on a regular basis?

    Okay, you suck, you can’t improve, you don’t want to! Now shut up about it! Who needs your shit in their head?

    It’s like narcissism squared. Waking up every morning to tweet your personal hell to your followers, just because you can.

    As we’ve seen, it’s not a habit likely to end well.

    Lighten up, you sad sacks of the twitterverse!
    , @BB753
    @Jack D

    She most likely got a bad batch. I urge iSteve readers to check theirs.
    https://howbadismybatch.com/

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Jack D


    She probably drank way too much among other things. Some of her last tweets talk about how she wasn’t feeling well – probably something was wrong with her that led up to her heart stopping.
     
    Lots of women drink too much without dropping dead of heart attacks at 49.

    The thing that was wrong with her that led to her heart stopping might have been the all the Pfizer cocktails she had. It is by no means a certainty, but it is not impossible either.

    People are dying from the shots. It's getting hard to deny it anymore, although people are still trying.
  90. @Jack D
    @Graham

    Touchy, aren't we? Must have hit a nerve. I was just going by this:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Portrait_of_an_Unidentified_Woman%2C_traditionally_assumed_to_be_Lord_Cornbury.png


    Typical of provincial British portraiture of the early eighteenth century, this rather curious portrait of a woman had long been identified as a likeness of Edward Hyde, who carried the title Viscount Cornbury and was appointed Governor of the Province of New York and New Jersey by his cousin, Queen Anne, in 1702. Serving as Governor until 1708, Lord Cornbury was reported to have been "universally detested," and a fondness for cross-dressing accompanied his reputation as "half-witted." Popular legend had it that the Governor discredited his office by publicly appearing in women's attire, strolling Broadway - even opening the Assembly - in his wife's clothes. Hyde is also said to have held his state levees at New York, and received his visitors dressed up in complete female court costume, because he represented the person of a female Sovereign, his cousin Queen Anne.
     
    https://emuseum.nyhistory.org/objects/41409/portrait-of-an-unidentified-woman?ctx=13ba307c1f610b10dd104fb13832af589d3c5f68&idx=0

    And by Monty Python.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Graham

    “Rachel” Levine would be jealous if he saw that guy. That outfit is way better than an admiral’s uniform, plus the five o’clock shadow sets it off nicely. Because being a tranny is all about looking ridiculous.

  91. @Kylie
    @Muggles

    "Three weeks later she [Julie Powell]dropped dead aged 49.

    So, more empirical evidence that God isn’t dead!"

    I wonder if God would be willing to supply more proof to the skeptics?

    Replies: @Jack D

    I think God gets too much credit for this kind of stuff. God is not a micromanager. He has the whole universe to worry about. I always get a kick when MLB pitchers (usually Latino) make some gesture thanking God when they get out of a tough inning. Where was God when the other team was hitting home runs? How come God gets BOTH team’s relievers out of tough innings? For every Julie Powell who overstayed her welcome (even though her life was not long) there is a George Gershwin gone much too soon.

    • Replies: @BosTex
    @Jack D

    Thanks Jack.

    I think Kylie was aiming to say:

    God please strike down more of the bastards, like this Powell POS.

    (Though I agree, the Deity probably isn’t too involved in the Home Runs, etc.)

    , @Curle
    @Jack D

    God is concerned with obedience and gratitude. The gesture demonstrates that.

    , @Kylie
    @Jack D

    "For every Julie Powell who overstayed her welcome (even though her life was not long) there is a George Gershwin gone much too soon."

    Or even worse, a Michael Rabin. Probably the greatest violinist ever recorded, he had a miserable, tragic life and died aged 35. Today, he's virtually unknown.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=WjAqBMxc2tw&feature=share&si=EMSIkaIECMiOmarE6JChQQ

    Replies: @BosTex

    , @Ganderson
    @Jack D

    I once saw an interview with an old time NFLer, I think it may have been Art Donovan. He was asked if they prayed before games- he said yes, but they prayed that no one would get hurt. He said (quote from memory) “ We figured God didn’t really care whether or not the Colts beat the Bears.”

  92. Anonymous[954] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Rob McX

    Powell was a classic Leftist female mess. She probably drank way too much among other things. Some of her last tweets talk about how she wasn't feeling well - probably something was wrong with her that led up to her heart stopping.

    She had one big hit book (and a movie based off of it) The book somehow captured the zeitgeist - Americans love amateurs, despise professional expertise. They don't want some French dude with diplomas telling them exactly how to cook and producing results that they can only envy using razor sharp knives and copper pots. A slightly overweight incompetent female much like themselves who burns the onions a lot while working in a too small kitchen with a shitty NY landlord grade gas stove - they can identify with that.

    But the rest of her life was a mess. She was never able to capture lightning in a bottle again. Her 2nd book had way too much personal information about her sex life (especially considering she was married and the sex was not with her husband) as well as a description of how she trained to become a butcher (a profession that she did not thereafter actually follow) which did not resonate with the public, not even with her liberal female followers (in the case of butchering, ESPECIALLY with her liberal female followers). So there was never a 3rd book.

    The only consolation is that she never had any children.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @BB753, @Mr. Anon

    Powell was a classic Leftist female mess. She probably drank way too much among other things. Some of her last tweets talk about how she wasn’t feeling well – probably something was wrong with her that led up to her heart stopping.

    I believe she complained of suffering from “hairy black tongue” disease, which is most often related to very poor mouth hygiene. But in her case, due to all the other medical problems she was having, it might have been a sign her immune system was compromised, and perhaps slowly ebbing away. That’s how her twitter feed reads, anyway.

    Oddly, she seemed compelled to share that she was batshit crazy to boot.

    I’ve never understood people who use social media to share what a piece of shit they believe they are. I thought everyone has agreed to lie about that!

    Besides, declaring, with real world examples on social media, what a horrible person you believe you are bums your readers out, which seems like a bizarre goal. What compels one to impart their wretchedness to strangers on a regular basis?

    Okay, you suck, you can’t improve, you don’t want to! Now shut up about it! Who needs your shit in their head?

    It’s like narcissism squared. Waking up every morning to tweet your personal hell to your followers, just because you can.

    As we’ve seen, it’s not a habit likely to end well.

    Lighten up, you sad sacks of the twitterverse!

  93. @Jack D

    Why Is World War T Winning in U.S. But Starting to Lose in U.K.?
     
    First of all, is this really true? I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.

    2nd, Britain (or at least England) is small enough that it doesn't have a Federal system. The entire UK would fit inside California, with room to spare. So it's more useful to compare US states to the UK. Would you say that World War T is winning more in the UK than it is in Florida, for example?

    3rd, does the above headline really prove that "World War T is Starting to Lose in the UK"?

    It seems to me that there are skirmishes back and forth but no clear winner. A talk given by a speaker who is critical of transgenderism was the subject of an announced boycott by some Cambridge dons. This is about what you would expect to happen at a liberal university in America (except here Leftists might try to shout down such a speaker and Leftists no longer bother to say that they are in favor of free speech as the UK profs said). Then some wealthy conservative donors to the U were critical of the boycott and threatened to withhold their donations. The pro-T professors refused to apologize. Again, this might have played out in the exact same way in the US.

    The UK pro-trans dons are still pro-trans but they have typical British humility because they at least acknowledged that the trans issue was "difficult and complex". Americans in general tend to see the world in black and white terms and will not admit of any difficulty in their position. Whatever their position is is mandated by God (or in the case of Leftists, by the atheist equivalent of God) and people with other views are devils, period. Any admission of nuance is seen as a sign of weakness or insufficient devotion to the cause. I see this on both sides of all major issues in the US.

    Replies: @raga10, @Wokechoke, @Graham, @Mike Tre, @Curle, @Peter Akuleyev

    This one’s for you, jacob!

    https://vidmax.com/video/215758-weird

  94. @Jack D
    @Kylie

    I think God gets too much credit for this kind of stuff. God is not a micromanager. He has the whole universe to worry about. I always get a kick when MLB pitchers (usually Latino) make some gesture thanking God when they get out of a tough inning. Where was God when the other team was hitting home runs? How come God gets BOTH team's relievers out of tough innings? For every Julie Powell who overstayed her welcome (even though her life was not long) there is a George Gershwin gone much too soon.

    Replies: @BosTex, @Curle, @Kylie, @Ganderson

    Thanks Jack.

    I think Kylie was aiming to say:

    God please strike down more of the bastards, like this Powell POS.

    (Though I agree, the Deity probably isn’t too involved in the Home Runs, etc.)

    • Thanks: Kylie
  95. @Hans Tholstrup
    Follow the money.
    In the US, there is money for endless, lifelong follow-up injections and treatments. Patients are on the hook for ever. YOU pay for it, via higher premiums.
    In the UK, the NHS is broke and can hardly do ordinary surgeries, without a multi-year waiting list, let alone endless T-thing surgery.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    In the UK, the NHS is broke and can hardly do ordinary surgeries, without a multi-year waiting list, let alone endless T-thing surgery.

    But… but… it works perfectly, every time! Just ask the Brits on Quora.com!

    That is, when they’re not busy chiding us for Vermont’s lax gun laws, which they seem to think apply nationwide. But they get a lot of assistance from Canadians and Australians in both.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Reg Cæsar


    Vermont’s lax gun laws
     
    LOL
  96. @Graham
    @anonymous

    I think more important factors are our much higher taxes, especially the marginal rates affecting entrepreneurs, our smaller internal market, and our greater burden of restrictive legislation; although I admit I don’t have figures to back up the third factor, just a general impression.

    Replies: @Curle, @anonymous

    “our much higher taxes, especially the marginal rates affecting entrepreneurs, our smaller internal market.”

    Smaller internal market? Really? Much higher taxes? Really?

    I’m surprised by both of these claims. I’ve no proof against them, but the history of rock bands fleeing high tax Britain remains in my memory.

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    @Curle

    I think Graham is from the UK.

  97. Anonymous[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @Graham
    @Jack D

    “I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.”

    Being ‘under a notion’ needs fact checking every now and then. Most British people are ‘under a notion’ that most Americans are fat ignoramuses in plaid jackets. They are also wrong. Now I have no idea whether transvestism is commoner right or left of the Atlantic; but what that has to do with WW T I don’t know, apart from the argument that men who recognise their autogynephilia for what it is are less likely to drug and mutilate themselves. Nevertheless, the current transgender crisis is mostly about female-to-male transitioning, and I don’t think there is such a thing as autoandrophilia.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Anonymous

    The British (and indeed, world) stereotype of Americans is fat people with guns. That latter thing probably explains this.

    British M2F transexuals are very militant. They’ve put several of their female critics (the so-called “TERFs”) in hospital. This has obviously cost them a lot of sympathy among progressives who would otherwise be their biggest supporters.

    In America attacking random strangers with your fists is dangerous because they may pull out a gun and shoot you. (See Trayvon Martin). There’s no danger of that happening in Britain.

    And of course, if your victim is an actual woman then there’s also no danger that they may get up swinging and start hitting you back (Hollywood fantasies aside.)

  98. @Jack D

    Why Is World War T Winning in U.S. But Starting to Lose in U.K.?
     
    First of all, is this really true? I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.

    2nd, Britain (or at least England) is small enough that it doesn't have a Federal system. The entire UK would fit inside California, with room to spare. So it's more useful to compare US states to the UK. Would you say that World War T is winning more in the UK than it is in Florida, for example?

    3rd, does the above headline really prove that "World War T is Starting to Lose in the UK"?

    It seems to me that there are skirmishes back and forth but no clear winner. A talk given by a speaker who is critical of transgenderism was the subject of an announced boycott by some Cambridge dons. This is about what you would expect to happen at a liberal university in America (except here Leftists might try to shout down such a speaker and Leftists no longer bother to say that they are in favor of free speech as the UK profs said). Then some wealthy conservative donors to the U were critical of the boycott and threatened to withhold their donations. The pro-T professors refused to apologize. Again, this might have played out in the exact same way in the US.

    The UK pro-trans dons are still pro-trans but they have typical British humility because they at least acknowledged that the trans issue was "difficult and complex". Americans in general tend to see the world in black and white terms and will not admit of any difficulty in their position. Whatever their position is is mandated by God (or in the case of Leftists, by the atheist equivalent of God) and people with other views are devils, period. Any admission of nuance is seen as a sign of weakness or insufficient devotion to the cause. I see this on both sides of all major issues in the US.

    Replies: @raga10, @Wokechoke, @Graham, @Mike Tre, @Curle, @Peter Akuleyev

    “Britain (or at least England) is small enough that it doesn’t have a Federal system.”

    Neither does the US as has been noted repeatedly since the civil war. As Donald Livingston notes, the US had an federal system but now it has one large state and 50 big counties.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle


    As Donald Livingston notes, the US had an federal system but now it has one large state and 50 big counties.
     
    The antebellum fugitive laws, even if constitutional, made a mockery of federalism and state sovereignty. Humans and property are two discrete categories. That states were unfree to adopt this obvious policy says all one needs to know about the bona fides of those who argue for states' rights. Ohio was no better than a county to future VP Richard Johnson when he sent a posse there to retrieve his ex-mistress, as did the master of murderess Peggy Garner.

    Fugitives were safe in Upper Canada but not in Ohio. Which one had the true sovereignty?

    I swear, you Rainbow Confederates...
  99. @Reg Cæsar
    @Dream

    In the 1930s, Britons could spell minuscule and parents'. Standards have lowered.

    Then again, maybe the latter isn't an error. He might have had one parent, whose "gender" he doesn't reveal. Standards have lowered.



    A boy in my year at school was murdered...
     
    At least he was wearing a uniform!

    Ban on 'saggy pants' overturned after 13 years in South Florida city

    https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox6now.com/www.fox6now.com/content/uploads/2020/09/764/432/GettyImages-476794960-e1600043794190.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

    Replies: @Tony, @SaneClownPosse

    I suspect it was overturned after someone pointed out that the droopy pants signal the wearer’s willingness to be the receiver of anal sex, which triggered the gay rights crowd.

    Probably, like many ghetto fashion trends, it originated in prison.

  100. @Graham
    @anonymous

    I think more important factors are our much higher taxes, especially the marginal rates affecting entrepreneurs, our smaller internal market, and our greater burden of restrictive legislation; although I admit I don’t have figures to back up the third factor, just a general impression.

    Replies: @Curle, @anonymous

    Would a smaller internal market have an effect on per capita GDP?

  101. @Zelo
    Could it be our huge Jewish population? They seem especially neurotic and obsessed with pushing social causes. And they love the idea of destroying the white patriarchy.

    I don't think Israel has this problem but they have more religious Jews and perhaps aren't interested in destroying their own society.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Israel has gays & trannies galore.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/defying-ministry-rabbis-tell-school-to-put-transgender-boy-in-female-only-class/

    Defying ministry, rabbis tell school to put transgender boy in female-only class

    And- grow up.

    Thinking that some Jewish conspiracy is behind US Tranny invasion is infantile. There is no Erich von Transtein.

    • Replies: @Zelo
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Excuse me, I made no allegation of a conspiracy. You need to grow up. If you don't think having a large Jewish population affects our society ... well you're being dishonest.

    Jews talk about the white patriarchy all day long and the need to destroy it. But when you talk about Jewish influence suddenly it's a conspiracy theory.

    It's just a fact that Jews are overrepresented in this movement.

    , @Odin
    @Bardon Kaldian

    For others who found this as ambiguous as I did: "transgender boy" here means a girl who wants to be a boy.

  102. @Jack D
    @Kylie

    I think God gets too much credit for this kind of stuff. God is not a micromanager. He has the whole universe to worry about. I always get a kick when MLB pitchers (usually Latino) make some gesture thanking God when they get out of a tough inning. Where was God when the other team was hitting home runs? How come God gets BOTH team's relievers out of tough innings? For every Julie Powell who overstayed her welcome (even though her life was not long) there is a George Gershwin gone much too soon.

    Replies: @BosTex, @Curle, @Kylie, @Ganderson

    God is concerned with obedience and gratitude. The gesture demonstrates that.

  103. If you’ve ever been to a British office Christmas party, you’d know that nobody wants to snog a chick with a dick.

  104. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Altai

    transmania isn’t even making as big a stride in Canada

    Depends. The Canadian legal system is more pro trans than the US. Anglo Montreal is also probably the North American capital of Trans. Maybe the Asian communities in Vancouver and Toronto are a little more sensible, as well as the good people of Saskatchewan.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Asian communities have higher levels of transsexuality.

  105. @Travis
    Roughly 2 million students are enrolled in higher education during any given year in the UK, representing roughly 3.5% of the total population. In contrast, about 18 million students are enrolled in US colleges and universities each year, representing about 6% of the total population. This is a significant difference between the UK and America and is one reason the woke ideology has a stronger presence in America.

    Our education system is toxic for most young Americans, most of them should not be in college getting further indoctrinated. In addition to fewer college students in the UK they have higher rates of science and math degrees compares to the US. In the US most degree programs are in the social sciences, business, and law categories. About 40% of US degrees are awarded in these fields compared to 33% in higher education in the UK. with 14% of degrees in the US come from Science, mathematics, and engineering categories, compared to 24% of UK graduates.

    The US would be a far better nation if half the Universities were shut down and our high schools stopped pushing students to prepare for college and instead directed more effort to teaching the girls home economics and how to cook and become hairdressers while teaching the boys more practical skills and trades.

    Replies: @MGB

    The boys need something to do with their practical skills. De industrialization has as much to do with feminizing the male as anything else.

  106. @Ganderson
    @Altai

    I went to an MLS game (match?) this summer in Minnesota; the whole enterprise struck me as extremely fake and gay; Americans LARPing as Europeans. I also dislike the faux European names a lot of the clubs have.

    Full disclosure: I’ve never been much of a soccer fan.(to put it mildly) I do like the fact that the games last two hours, pretty much always. The club’s stadium, in my old neighborhood in St. Paul was nice; one of the million new sportsball palaces built in the Twin Cities over the last 20 or so years. I guess when your town doesn’t have a problem with public order, rioting, etc, you can build such things… oh, wait….

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I also dislike the faux European names a lot of the clubs have.

    Many British and European clubs have fantastic names. Sheffield Wednesday, Partick Thistle, (Lisburn) Distillery, Borussia (Dortmund, Mönchengladbach, and several smaller communities), Hansa Rostock, Atalanta, and even an Arsenal and a Game Park (Djurgården).

    There could have been genuine native American counterparts for these– Minnesota United FC plays not far from Pigs Eye Landing– but instead MLS went from cheesy, often singular, World Football League-level names such as the Chicago Fire and the Dallas Burn to generic City FC (including the erstwhile Burn) or borrowing or renting actual club names from Europe such as “Sporting”.

    It seems that half of them are the generic “United”. Wednesday’s Sheffield rivals were the first to go by that name, and it should have ended with them.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar


    Hansa Rostock
     
    People in that area seem to have a thing about the Hanseatic League. You can see this on the car registration plates. Hamburg is not H, as you'd expect, but HH - Hansestadt Hamburg. Same with all the other cities in the area - HB (Bremen), HR (Rostock), etc.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @sb
    @Reg Cæsar

    I was about to say that my favourite European soccer team is Young Boys in the Switzerland league but then I thought twice about it

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Ganderson
    @Reg Cæsar

    As I’m sure you’re aware, Euro club names grew organically out of, say, the origins of the club. We have our own naming conventions here . (although that hasn’t prevented a number of stupid names from weaseling in: “The Wild “ comes to mind)

    “Loons” is not a bad moniker. I did notice that my brother and I significantly raised the average age of the crowd, and lowered the average tattoo count.

    And in Durgården (Stockholm) news, it’s Elite league hockey team, which is the Yankees to Frölunda’s (Göteborg) Red Sox, or vice versa, was relegated after a miserable season.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  107. @Russ
    @Altai


    I was watching the MLS final last night, the LAFC ‘ultras’ (The typical obnoxious cringe LARPers you find in the MLS) had a giant trans flag bigger than any of the LAFC flags in their section.
     
    I too noticed this. In this vein, a few years ago when we channel-surfed across some NWSL women's soccer game, my wife observed that they had about as many rainbow flags in the seats as spectators.

    I would never have seen that LAFC flag had I not tuned in expecting an early World Series pregame show on Fox. Rough night for Philly sports fans.

    Replies: @Curle, @Cool Daddy Jimbo

    I got within eye exchange distance of Hope Solo back when she was at the peak of her beauty and not yet married at an small and intimate event sitting an table away. She did not come across as one offended by the male gaze as her later selection of an high T b-ball player demonstrated. I found her striking.

    I afterwards wondered if her obvious, to me, orientation to males contributed to her unpopularity with that gang of lesbians in pro soccer. I also wonder, given the nature of this blog, whether her latest incident over drinking represents her Native American genes making their appearance?

    https://1010wcsi.com/fox-sports/police-video-shows-hope-solo-dragged-out-of-car-during-dwi-arrest-in-march/

    The story is instructive for one major lesson regarding interactions with police; never talk to police when drunk and stopped except in gestures or short utterances, preferably grunts, and never lower the window less than a few inches. They are always looking for the smell of alcohol to establish probable cause.

  108. Answer: population density. Americans are used to moving to the next exit down the highway where they don’t have to see or hear freaks. Out of sight out of mind. Britain and Europe in general is so densely packed that they can’t avoid contact so the British are saying, “Less trans, please”.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Father Coughlin

    Whites of Central European descent (e.g., Slovaks) did a better job of holding on to urban Pittsburgh than most Anglo-Saxon whites did in holding on to their cities. Scots-Irish will fight for their country but not as much for their city: they tend to light out for the frontier instead.

    Replies: @Anon, @Chris Renner, @Reg Cæsar

  109. @Buzz Mohawk
    Probably because the English have more experience with transvestism.


    https://img.apmcdn.org/d122c4b59af1c352e04d53badbcced2a67e652d9/uncropped/4ea853-20140804-stones-drag.jpg
    The Rolling Stones, 1966
    "Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby, Standin' In The Shadow?"

    Replies: @BB753, @MEH 0910


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    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @MEH 0910

    Exactly. The Brits get the joke. The Americans take it seriously, which is really kind of stupid when you think about it.

  110. @Reg Cæsar
    @Hans Tholstrup


    In the UK, the NHS is broke and can hardly do ordinary surgeries, without a multi-year waiting list, let alone endless T-thing surgery.
     
    But... but... it works perfectly, every time! Just ask the Brits on Quora.com!

    That is, when they're not busy chiding us for Vermont's lax gun laws, which they seem to think apply nationwide. But they get a lot of assistance from Canadians and Australians in both.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Vermont’s lax gun laws

    LOL

  111. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/11/05/trans-criminals-can-use-loophole-hide-previous-convictions-when/
    https://archive.ph/zkyyQ

  112. @Curle
    @Jack D

    “Britain (or at least England) is small enough that it doesn’t have a Federal system.”

    Neither does the US as has been noted repeatedly since the civil war. As Donald Livingston notes, the US had an federal system but now it has one large state and 50 big counties.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    As Donald Livingston notes, the US had an federal system but now it has one large state and 50 big counties.

    The antebellum fugitive laws, even if constitutional, made a mockery of federalism and state sovereignty. Humans and property are two discrete categories. That states were unfree to adopt this obvious policy says all one needs to know about the bona fides of those who argue for states’ rights. Ohio was no better than a county to future VP Richard Johnson when he sent a posse there to retrieve his ex-mistress, as did the master of murderess Peggy Garner.

    Fugitives were safe in Upper Canada but not in Ohio. Which one had the true sovereignty?

    I swear, you Rainbow Confederates…

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
  113. Steve, Totally OT, but Trump just gave Ron DeSantis a nickname: “DeSanctimonious”.

    Meanwhile someone else is calling Ron DeSantis “Heavy D” (which I like).

    My guess is that Heavy D wins out as a nickname, and when it does Trump will no longer be the big boy on the playground. I know it sounds odd, but if Heavy D becomes DeSantis’s nickname it means Trump has lost his mojo.

  114. @MEH 0910
    @Buzz Mohawk

    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1589202724343934977

    https://twitter.com/scjohnson90/status/1589207369644265472
    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1589212600369557505

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Exactly. The Brits get the joke. The Americans take it seriously, which is really kind of stupid when you think about it.

  115. Anon[957] • Disclaimer says:

    The left was never terribly concerned with trannies. The left, however, recognized them as a useful political tool exactly like blacks. Trannies could be used to manipulate public opinion and positioned so they would attack people on the right. That was the real idea behind the whole tranny outrage industry business.

  116. @Polistra
    Britain has its share of wackos, but nowhere near as many as the USA does.

    And yes, iSteve spergs, I do mean per capita.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Alyosha, @JBond

    You are a sperg for even saying that before anyone brought it up.

  117. @Ian Smith
    @Wilkey

    The lack of socialized medicine in the US (combined with Jewish status) is a big part of why male genital mutilation is still a thing.

    Brits might be less nutty about trannies, but they are even more into negrolatry than Americans. Watch any British show from the last 5-10 years and the black men are all noble and sensitive while the white men are all villains.

    The UK might have the most pozzed elite in the West. Very sad to see how far they’ve fallen.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @epebble

    The lack of socialized medicine in the US (combined with Jewish status) is a big part of why male genital mutilation is still a thing.

    Call it “male genital mutilation” if you like, but the health benefits are substantial (reduced risk of UTIs, STDs, and cancers. Plus, women tend to prefer the look.

    Brits might be less nutty about trannies, but they are even more into negrolatry than Americans. Watch any British show from the last 5-10 years and the black men are all noble and sensitive while the white men are all villains. The UK might have the most pozzed elite in the West. Very sad to see how far they’ve fallen.

    True indeed. I have a family member attending grad school in London. She’s pretty damn conservative, despite being female and a grad student, and finds the whole phenomenon seriously disturbing. Something like half the ads feature blacks, and you can’t see a show on the West End without it having half a dozen blacks who are ridiculously out of place.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Wilkey

    Peep Show’s spin was to make the black guy some sort of Gordon Gekko.










    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qdFWIYbIWHM

    Replies: @Ian Smith

    , @Ian Smith
    @Wilkey

    Most men in Europe, Australia, and Japan are uncircumcised. Aside from the US (where it is declining), the only people into it are Jews, Muslims, and ooga booga tribes in places like New Guinea.

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2guc4g

    , @Ian Smith
    @Wilkey

    This went a long way to change my mind:

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2guc4g

    , @Russ
    @Wilkey



    Brits might be less nutty about trannies, but they are even more into negrolatry than Americans. Watch any British show from the last 5-10 years and the black men are all noble and sensitive while the white men are all villains. The UK might have the most pozzed elite in the West. Very sad to see how far they’ve fallen.
     
    True indeed. I have a family member attending grad school in London. She’s pretty damn conservative, despite being female and a grad student, and finds the whole phenomenon seriously disturbing. Something like half the ads feature blacks, and you can’t see a show on the West End without it having half a dozen blacks who are ridiculously out of place.
     
    When William F. Buckley Jr debated James Baldwin at Oxford (or wherever) in the 1960s, the UK commentator's commentary was as if an angel were debating a demon. One guess as to which was which.

    In the 1960s, mind you.

  118. @Father Coughlin
    Answer: population density. Americans are used to moving to the next exit down the highway where they don't have to see or hear freaks. Out of sight out of mind. Britain and Europe in general is so densely packed that they can't avoid contact so the British are saying, "Less trans, please".

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Whites of Central European descent (e.g., Slovaks) did a better job of holding on to urban Pittsburgh than most Anglo-Saxon whites did in holding on to their cities. Scots-Irish will fight for their country but not as much for their city: they tend to light out for the frontier instead.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    Everybody ran.

    , @Chris Renner
    @Steve Sailer


    Whites of Central European descent (e.g., Slovaks) did a better job of holding on to urban Pittsburgh than most Anglo-Saxon whites did in holding on to their cities.
     
    Two other factors unique to Pittsburgh are important:

    1. Geography (there are ravines between a lot of city neighborhoods, so Midwest-style blockbusting is effectively impossible)

    2. Fragmented local government (the city proper is 1 of 130 independent municipalities in Allegheny County)

    Also, while the city proper went from 17% Black in 1960 to 26% Black in 2010, the change was much more drastic in other municipalities.

    For examples: adjacent Penn Hills (postwar suburbia, 4% -> 37% Black), and Wilkinsburg (streetcar suburb, 2%->67%), and nearby mill towns Homestead (??->51%) Rankin (??-> 80%), Braddock (??->72%), and Duquesne (??->57%).

    BTW, thanks for giving me occasion to think about all this. I'm native to Southwest PA but I hadn't ever analyzed exactly how much of a demographic transition a lot of these places underwent.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    Whites of Central European descent (e.g., Slovaks) did a better job of holding on to urban Pittsburgh than most Anglo-Saxon whites did in holding on to their cities.
     
    Slovaks are the hillbillies of an otherwise flat (north) Eastern Europe. That they'd behave similarly to Scots-Irish and other mountain folk is no surprise.

    https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Martin-Price-4/publication/308573669/figure/fig1/AS:[email protected]/Mountains-constitute-35-of-Europes-area-Map-courtesy-of-the-European-Environment.png


    They even feature a mountain on their flag. As does Slovenia, adding to the confusion between tbe two.


    https://www.veryhungrynomads.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Slovakia-vs-Slovenia-flag.png


    Fun fact: Slovakia's is the only European tricolor with a cross.

    Replies: @Father Coughlin

  119. @Polistra
    Britain has its share of wackos, but nowhere near as many as the USA does.

    And yes, iSteve spergs, I do mean per capita.

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @Alyosha, @JBond

    Imagine you were a king in Europe in the 16th or 17th century.
    Who would you send to your new colony in the New World.
    The best, the brightest, the most beautiful?
    Of course not.
    You would clean out all the prisons and insane asylums and send them instead.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @JBond

    A ton of Sephardic ended up in the new world and helpfully out of Spain. Same goes for the crazy Puritans. Only the southern gentry and the Spanish administrative class represented the upper class of their respective Kingdoms to any significant degree

  120. @CCZ
    Maybe because of "educated" white women ????

    https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1589315131548536832

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Michigan attorney general @dananessel calls for drag queens for every school.

    Wasn’t that a line in a Jan and Dean song? “TERF City, USA”.

    • LOL: Curle
    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks; you've now ruined this song (originally by Jan and Dean; the Alex Chilton cover is a vast improvement, as it picks up the pace substantially) for me forever:

    https://youtu.be/pPLiFBTelv4

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  121. @anonymous
    The US is 2-3% Jewish while UK is 0.5% Jewish. At the helm of movements to move society away from the white and religious nuclear family are Jewish intellectuals. It could be there are fewer Jewish intellectuals in the UK so less intense pressure to hold the line.

    At the same time Jews are able to create a lot of wealth. The UK is poorer than the US. The GDP per capita of both places with adjusting for purchasing power was $70,000 compared to $47,000 last year. This is despite the fact the UK has a lot better demographics. The UK is 86% white while the US is down to 57.8% non-Hispanic white from the 2020 Census.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Graham, @Mr. Grey, @Exile, @Snorri Godhi

    I thought the U.K. went pretty wacky with all this, and maybe the inevitable correction has started there first.

  122. @George
    I have a theory that Antifa is the armed faction, to use the Northern Irish terminology, of the democrat party, so its T constituents must be tolerated and even encouraged.

    In the UK I have seen videos of Muslims, in Muslim dress, confronting what appeared to be Ts that moved into Muslim areas. So the UK establishment may be wary of endorsing Ts too much lest they upset the Muslims. Muslims also forced local schools to drop the T curriculum.

    Current PM Sunak "is a Hindu.[202] His name is Hindi: ऋषि सुनक and Gurumukhi: ਰਿਸ਼ੀ ਸੁਨਕ. He took his oath as an MP at the House of Commons on the Bhagavad Gita." This might also indicate something about UK policy towards T.

    Replies: @CCG

    No, Hinduism favours the T crowd (known as “hijras” in many Indian languages).

  123. Ukrainian Kraken cinematic montage.

  124. @Curle
    @Graham

    “our much higher taxes, especially the marginal rates affecting entrepreneurs, our smaller internal market.”

    Smaller internal market? Really? Much higher taxes? Really?

    I’m surprised by both of these claims. I’ve no proof against them, but the history of rock bands fleeing high tax Britain remains in my memory.

    Replies: @hhsiii

    I think Graham is from the UK.

  125. @Gongtao
    I think the opposition of British feminists (a little crankier and more contrary than American feminists) to trans absurdity prevented it from becoming a strict left vs right battle in Britain the way it is here. That deprived the trans activists of the automatic and unthinking support of 50% of the population. Since the right wing is against it here, everybody* on the left is going to dig in and fight to the last man no matter how obviously false and destructive their narrative is.

    *with the exception of some unfortunate parents who got redpilled by mobs calling them fascists because they weren't enthusiastic about their daughters getting mutilated.

    Replies: @Carol

    Helen Joyce, UK author of Trans, thinks Brit parents have been able to fight back because abortion isn’t a big issue there.

    Abortion is not politicised, which makes it easier for left-wing feminists to work with Christian conservatives on a single-issue campaign.

    Highly recommend her book, which goes a lot deeper than the Abigail Schrier book. Though they are both essential reading.

    The rot is all over Europe.

  126. @AndrewR
    @NoFancyHandle

    Islamism in the UK is not a powerful force. Muslims in Europe are affected by liberalism more than they affect their host cultures. This is probably especially true in the UK. Sadiq Khan and other "Muslims" in the elite class are "Muslim" in name only. And the problems that Pakistanis cause in the UK are tangential to Islam at most.

    In contrast, Negro worship in the US is the state religion, and most Jews live in cities where contact with large amounts of blacks is impossible to avoid. So "detachment from reality" is objectively more difficult to achieve for US Jews than for British Jews.

    Replies: @Curle

    “most Jews live in cities where contact with large amounts of blacks is impossible to avoid. So “detachment from reality” is objectively more difficult to achieve for US Jews”

    The proper way to view this isn’t detachment from reality but insulation from reality. In every major city I’ve resided with significant Jewish and Black populations the wealthy Jews were incredibly successful insulating themselves from Blacks and lower order whites. Less wealthy Jews were Kosher rednecks.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  127. @JBond
    @Polistra

    Imagine you were a king in Europe in the 16th or 17th century.
    Who would you send to your new colony in the New World.
    The best, the brightest, the most beautiful?
    Of course not.
    You would clean out all the prisons and insane asylums and send them instead.

    Replies: @Curle

    A ton of Sephardic ended up in the new world and helpfully out of Spain. Same goes for the crazy Puritans. Only the southern gentry and the Spanish administrative class represented the upper class of their respective Kingdoms to any significant degree

    • Agree: HammerJack
  128. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Zelo

    Israel has gays & trannies galore.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/defying-ministry-rabbis-tell-school-to-put-transgender-boy-in-female-only-class/

    Defying ministry, rabbis tell school to put transgender boy in female-only class

    And- grow up.

    Thinking that some Jewish conspiracy is behind US Tranny invasion is infantile. There is no Erich von Transtein.

    Replies: @Zelo, @Odin

    Excuse me, I made no allegation of a conspiracy. You need to grow up. If you don’t think having a large Jewish population affects our society … well you’re being dishonest.

    Jews talk about the white patriarchy all day long and the need to destroy it. But when you talk about Jewish influence suddenly it’s a conspiracy theory.

    It’s just a fact that Jews are overrepresented in this movement.

  129. @Wilkey
    @Ian Smith


    The lack of socialized medicine in the US (combined with Jewish status) is a big part of why male genital mutilation is still a thing.
     
    Call it "male genital mutilation" if you like, but the health benefits are substantial (reduced risk of UTIs, STDs, and cancers. Plus, women tend to prefer the look.

    Brits might be less nutty about trannies, but they are even more into negrolatry than Americans. Watch any British show from the last 5-10 years and the black men are all noble and sensitive while the white men are all villains. The UK might have the most pozzed elite in the West. Very sad to see how far they’ve fallen.
     
    True indeed. I have a family member attending grad school in London. She's pretty damn conservative, despite being female and a grad student, and finds the whole phenomenon seriously disturbing. Something like half the ads feature blacks, and you can't see a show on the West End without it having half a dozen blacks who are ridiculously out of place.

    Replies: @Curle, @Ian Smith, @Ian Smith, @Russ

    Peep Show’s spin was to make the black guy some sort of Gordon Gekko.

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    @Curle

    I actually quite enjoyed that character.

    Replies: @Curle

  130. @Anonymous
    It's because the USA is less white. Transsexuals are disproportionately non-white, and non-white communities are more tolerant of transsexualism.

    Replies: @Barbarossa

    Sorry, that just sounds like made up BS.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Barbarossa

    https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Race-Ethnicity-Trans-Adults-US-Oct-2016.pdf



    RACE AND ETHNICITY OF ADULTS WHO IDENTIFY AS TRANSGENDERED by AR Flores · 2016 · Cited by 133


    ... more likely to dentify as Latino or Hispanic than the non-transgender adult population.5 ... more likely to be African-American or Black and Hispanic
     

    Replies: @Ralph L

  131. @Desiderius
    Give it a week.

    Replies: @Barbarossa

    Yeah, they were further ahead on Trans and so the narrative has collapsed sooner. The cracks are already starting to show here too, though it’s become quite entrenched in the bureaucracy.

  132. @Intelligent Dasein
    Here is something OT but very much in the Sailer wheelhouse. The Washington Post is starting to report that there is widespread resentment surrounding the rise of "low IQ football."

    Why is there so much bad football in the NFL? (WaPo link.)

    (Non-paywalled link here.)

    “The product is low quality right now,” a prominent player agent said, unsolicited, during a conversation about a different topic. (He spoke on the condition of anonymity in part not to offend some of his clients.) “There’s too much low-IQ football being played. Too many games are tough to watch. If you want to know what people who have been in this league a long time are talking about right now, this is it.”
     

    Replies: @epebble

    My theory: massive players, starting to play early, playing intensely leads to early onset of CTE (Chronic traumatic encephalopathy) leading to lower IQ causing lower IQ professional football. So, the cause and effect are not unrelated but form a feedback loop.

  133. @SFG
    I’d actually go the other way from Smyrni-the American “anyone can become anything” ideology, with or without an assumption of underlying similarity, is receptive to trans ideas. Being able to reinvent yourself has always been a big part of the national mythos, and changing your sex kinda fits into that.

    I mean, it’s not like I can turn myself into a dragon (unless I am a boss in a Japanese video game), but that’s part of why the ideology got as far as it did, IMHO

    Replies: @Charlotte

    Being able to reinvent yourself has always been a big part of the national mythos, and changing your sex kinda fits into that.

    That belief in the freedom to reinvent yourself-and the usual assumption that reinvention will be a positive thing-may leave Americans particularly susceptible to trans mania. The British, from what I can tell, still have a sense that things like social class matter-and are more or less fixed. Maybe that gives them a certain baseline skepticism about changing sex.

  134. @Steve Sailer
    @Father Coughlin

    Whites of Central European descent (e.g., Slovaks) did a better job of holding on to urban Pittsburgh than most Anglo-Saxon whites did in holding on to their cities. Scots-Irish will fight for their country but not as much for their city: they tend to light out for the frontier instead.

    Replies: @Anon, @Chris Renner, @Reg Cæsar

    Everybody ran.

  135. @Dream
    Britain lost the other war.

    https://twitter.com/SAshworthHayes/status/1587777406299000833?t=0uDL-dd-SJU-iBaffX1jWw&s=19


    https://twitter.com/post_liberal/status/1588818602857484288?t=UsTTAoPR88coyc-ynrZ5tg&s=19

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @SFG, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @anonymouseperson

    Let’s just call it the Kaisers revenge or Hitler’s revenge, whichever you prefer. England may have “won” the German wars, but it sure as hell lost the peace. Oh well, Powell warned the sorry bastards.

  136. I would say our “customer-is-always-right” approach to health care… but, isn’t this nonsense strong in Canada too?

  137. @Jack D
    @Rob McX

    Powell was a classic Leftist female mess. She probably drank way too much among other things. Some of her last tweets talk about how she wasn't feeling well - probably something was wrong with her that led up to her heart stopping.

    She had one big hit book (and a movie based off of it) The book somehow captured the zeitgeist - Americans love amateurs, despise professional expertise. They don't want some French dude with diplomas telling them exactly how to cook and producing results that they can only envy using razor sharp knives and copper pots. A slightly overweight incompetent female much like themselves who burns the onions a lot while working in a too small kitchen with a shitty NY landlord grade gas stove - they can identify with that.

    But the rest of her life was a mess. She was never able to capture lightning in a bottle again. Her 2nd book had way too much personal information about her sex life (especially considering she was married and the sex was not with her husband) as well as a description of how she trained to become a butcher (a profession that she did not thereafter actually follow) which did not resonate with the public, not even with her liberal female followers (in the case of butchering, ESPECIALLY with her liberal female followers). So there was never a 3rd book.

    The only consolation is that she never had any children.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @BB753, @Mr. Anon

    She most likely got a bad batch. I urge iSteve readers to check theirs.
    https://howbadismybatch.com/

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @BB753

    That site is ridiculous. According to it, Moderna batch 032H20A is 15% lethal. People would be dropping like flies. The batch would be recalled. Nothing like this has happened. Their statistical methods must be incredibly flawed.

    The vaccine wars are over. Whoever wants it gets it and whoever doesn't doesn't. It doesn't kill you but it doesn't stop you from getting Covid either (though it helps). Move on to the next fake controversy like whether Paul Pelosi is really gay.

    Replies: @BB753

  138. @Jack D
    @Rob McX

    Powell was a classic Leftist female mess. She probably drank way too much among other things. Some of her last tweets talk about how she wasn't feeling well - probably something was wrong with her that led up to her heart stopping.

    She had one big hit book (and a movie based off of it) The book somehow captured the zeitgeist - Americans love amateurs, despise professional expertise. They don't want some French dude with diplomas telling them exactly how to cook and producing results that they can only envy using razor sharp knives and copper pots. A slightly overweight incompetent female much like themselves who burns the onions a lot while working in a too small kitchen with a shitty NY landlord grade gas stove - they can identify with that.

    But the rest of her life was a mess. She was never able to capture lightning in a bottle again. Her 2nd book had way too much personal information about her sex life (especially considering she was married and the sex was not with her husband) as well as a description of how she trained to become a butcher (a profession that she did not thereafter actually follow) which did not resonate with the public, not even with her liberal female followers (in the case of butchering, ESPECIALLY with her liberal female followers). So there was never a 3rd book.

    The only consolation is that she never had any children.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @BB753, @Mr. Anon

    She probably drank way too much among other things. Some of her last tweets talk about how she wasn’t feeling well – probably something was wrong with her that led up to her heart stopping.

    Lots of women drink too much without dropping dead of heart attacks at 49.

    The thing that was wrong with her that led to her heart stopping might have been the all the Pfizer cocktails she had. It is by no means a certainty, but it is not impossible either.

    People are dying from the shots. It’s getting hard to deny it anymore, although people are still trying.

    • Agree: Travis, BB753
  139. @Steve Sailer
    @Father Coughlin

    Whites of Central European descent (e.g., Slovaks) did a better job of holding on to urban Pittsburgh than most Anglo-Saxon whites did in holding on to their cities. Scots-Irish will fight for their country but not as much for their city: they tend to light out for the frontier instead.

    Replies: @Anon, @Chris Renner, @Reg Cæsar

    Whites of Central European descent (e.g., Slovaks) did a better job of holding on to urban Pittsburgh than most Anglo-Saxon whites did in holding on to their cities.

    Two other factors unique to Pittsburgh are important:

    1. Geography (there are ravines between a lot of city neighborhoods, so Midwest-style blockbusting is effectively impossible)

    2. Fragmented local government (the city proper is 1 of 130 independent municipalities in Allegheny County)

    Also, while the city proper went from 17% Black in 1960 to 26% Black in 2010, the change was much more drastic in other municipalities.

    For examples: adjacent Penn Hills (postwar suburbia, 4% -> 37% Black), and Wilkinsburg (streetcar suburb, 2%->67%), and nearby mill towns Homestead (??->51%) Rankin (??-> 80%), Braddock (??->72%), and Duquesne (??->57%).

    BTW, thanks for giving me occasion to think about all this. I’m native to Southwest PA but I hadn’t ever analyzed exactly how much of a demographic transition a lot of these places underwent.

  140. @Carol
    @Almost Missouri

    You can do like I do and lurk where they think they can post safely. But then you may not want to go down that rabbit hole.

    Some of those poor girls think they can really change their sex. And I don't think they've ever been around a real man in their life. They tend to be on the short side and not very attractive anyway.

    Some of the older ones do seem to have more of a grip on it. Testosterone is a great mood booster, at least until their hair falls out. The facial hair and the voice change are forever.

    Who wants to be short AND bald?

    Anyway, I've come to the conclusion these male surgeons specializing in phalloplasty are just perfecting their art in order to enhance you less endowed dudes. Ka-ching!

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Ralph L

    you may not want to go down that rabbit hole.

    You’re right, I don’t. But then the rabbit hole has come to me from extended family members.

    They tend to be on the short side and not very attractive anyway.

    Short needn’t be unattractive. There are many small attractive women. But maybe in this case there is an “intersection”.

    In the case of my extended family member who decided she is not female, she was a reasonably attractive girl of normal height and weight, but she had already laid waste to a lot of that through a series of bad decisions before transmania came along. At that point, she may have thought that there wasn’t much left to lose, and since being a female hadn’t worked out so great, she may as well try the New Thing.

    I don’t think they’ve ever been around a real man in their life.

    In my family member’s case, she was raised by liberals in one of the most liberal jurisdictions in the country, so yeah, she was probably underexposed to actual virility, to put it mildly.

    these male surgeons specializing in phalloplasty are just perfecting their art in order to enhance you less endowed dudes. Ka-ching!

    Do you think most of the surgeons doing these grotesqueries are male paraphiliacs? I mean, I would expect the median trans-surgeon to resemble Admiral Levine, yet the only trans-surgeons I’ve ever seen have all been surprisingly (and troublingly) normal-appearing women.

    • Replies: @Flying Dutchman
    @Almost Missouri


    Do you think most of the surgeons doing these grotesqueries are male paraphiliacs? I mean, I would expect the median trans-surgeon to resemble Admiral Levine, yet the only trans-surgeons I’ve ever seen have all been surprisingly (and troublingly) normal-appearing women.
     
    That's the banality of evil.
  141. @Reg Cæsar
    @CCZ


    Michigan attorney general @dananessel calls for drag queens for every school.
     
    Wasn't that a line in a Jan and Dean song? "TERF City, USA".

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Thanks; you’ve now ruined this song (originally by Jan and Dean; the Alex Chilton cover is a vast improvement, as it picks up the pace substantially) for me forever:

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Gary in Gramercy

    And children by the million sing for Alex Chilton
    When he comes 'round
    They sing, "I'm in love
    And what's that song?
    Yeah, I'm in love
    With that song"

    --the Replacements

  142. @Jack D
    @Graham

    Touchy, aren't we? Must have hit a nerve. I was just going by this:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Portrait_of_an_Unidentified_Woman%2C_traditionally_assumed_to_be_Lord_Cornbury.png


    Typical of provincial British portraiture of the early eighteenth century, this rather curious portrait of a woman had long been identified as a likeness of Edward Hyde, who carried the title Viscount Cornbury and was appointed Governor of the Province of New York and New Jersey by his cousin, Queen Anne, in 1702. Serving as Governor until 1708, Lord Cornbury was reported to have been "universally detested," and a fondness for cross-dressing accompanied his reputation as "half-witted." Popular legend had it that the Governor discredited his office by publicly appearing in women's attire, strolling Broadway - even opening the Assembly - in his wife's clothes. Hyde is also said to have held his state levees at New York, and received his visitors dressed up in complete female court costume, because he represented the person of a female Sovereign, his cousin Queen Anne.
     
    https://emuseum.nyhistory.org/objects/41409/portrait-of-an-unidentified-woman?ctx=13ba307c1f610b10dd104fb13832af589d3c5f68&idx=0

    And by Monty Python.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Graham

    Yeah, a little touchy, true. I just prefer evidence-based posting. No matter. But my main point remains. Male transvestites do no harm to themselves apart from making themselves ridiculous. The real issue is the brainwash-drug-mutilate sequence applied to female-to-male ‘transgender’ individuals. I am still in shock at the appearance of one such individual I have met.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Graham

    Quite a few spergy young men are getting convinced they’re women, for similar reasons-you’re at the bottom of the straight male hierarchy (and straight men are evil anyway), why not try something else? Add in the fantasy prone personality and you probably get a lot of the ex-men Steve is talking about. The results are even worse as androgens are pretty good at making women appear masculine-they do it in utero after all-but there’s not much you can do about big hands and an Adam’s apple.

    Steve says they’re very nasty, and probably they are. But one reason may be, once you’ve swallowed the Kool-Aid and look like a freak, where else are you going to go?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

  143. @Reg Cæsar
    @Ganderson


    I also dislike the faux European names a lot of the clubs have.
     
    Many British and European clubs have fantastic names. Sheffield Wednesday, Partick Thistle, (Lisburn) Distillery, Borussia (Dortmund, Mönchengladbach, and several smaller communities), Hansa Rostock, Atalanta, and even an Arsenal and a Game Park (Djurgården).

    There could have been genuine native American counterparts for these-- Minnesota United FC plays not far from Pigs Eye Landing-- but instead MLS went from cheesy, often singular, World Football League-level names such as the Chicago Fire and the Dallas Burn to generic City FC (including the erstwhile Burn) or borrowing or renting actual club names from Europe such as "Sporting".

    It seems that half of them are the generic "United". Wednesday's Sheffield rivals were the first to go by that name, and it should have ended with them.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @sb, @Ganderson

    Hansa Rostock

    People in that area seem to have a thing about the Hanseatic League. You can see this on the car registration plates. Hamburg is not H, as you’d expect, but HH – Hansestadt Hamburg. Same with all the other cities in the area – HB (Bremen), HR (Rostock), etc.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob McX


    People in that area seem to have a thing about the Hanseatic League. You can see this on the car registration plates. Hamburg is not H, as you’d expect, but HH – Hansestadt Hamburg. Same with all the other cities in the area – HB (Bremen), HR (Rostock), etc.
     
    Can you blame them? Look at that "badge":


    https://www.liga2-online.de/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/hansa-stadion-eckfahne-620x264.jpg


    Max Weber types claim that Protestantism is the mother of capitalism, but the Hanseatics suggest the reverse may be the case.
  144. @Jack D
    @Kylie

    I think God gets too much credit for this kind of stuff. God is not a micromanager. He has the whole universe to worry about. I always get a kick when MLB pitchers (usually Latino) make some gesture thanking God when they get out of a tough inning. Where was God when the other team was hitting home runs? How come God gets BOTH team's relievers out of tough innings? For every Julie Powell who overstayed her welcome (even though her life was not long) there is a George Gershwin gone much too soon.

    Replies: @BosTex, @Curle, @Kylie, @Ganderson

    “For every Julie Powell who overstayed her welcome (even though her life was not long) there is a George Gershwin gone much too soon.”

    Or even worse, a Michael Rabin. Probably the greatest violinist ever recorded, he had a miserable, tragic life and died aged 35. Today, he’s virtually unknown.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=WjAqBMxc2tw&feature=share&si=EMSIkaIECMiOmarE6JChQQ

    • Replies: @BosTex
    @Kylie

    Beautiful piece. Thanks for sharing.

    Replies: @Kylie

  145. When this is over and people come to their senses (if that ever happens), I hope there’s no transamnesty. Every last person responsible for turning children into sterile mutants needs to be put on trial.

    • Agree: Gordo
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Rob McX

    I agree.
    These "medical" treatments were never, ever justified by anything resembling "science" as an educated person would understand it.
    It would be unethical and illegal to "experimentally" test "transgender" treatments (what the Orwellians call "gender-affirming care").
    So quite obviously it has never been done, and the "medical professionals" who do this stuff can reasonably be charged under existing criminal law.
    It matters not a whit if "state medical boards" or some other bureaucrats sanctioned this stuff.
    Bureaucracy has NOTHING to do with science, properly understood.
    The political authorities sanctioned Nazi medical experiments too... throwing prisoners into freezing water, murderous twin experiments, etc.

    , @AKAHorace
    @Rob McX


    When this is over and people come to their senses (if that ever happens), I hope there’s no transamnesty. Every last person responsible for turning children into sterile mutants needs to be put on trial.
     
    A bit much, but there should be some settling of accounts. Perhaps one of the reasons for for forcing as many people as possible to publically support transitioning for school children is to make as many people as complicit as possible. The more who are complicit the less likely there is to be any reckoning.

    This, in particular is not going to age well.

    https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/trans-friendly-counter-protesters-drown-out-protester-at-westboro-school

  146. From this side of the pond (England), seems to me that part of the reason the Trans thing finds it harder to be taken seriously here is our history of pantomime (not shared by the US). Here the ‘pantomime dame’ – a usually burly bloke in a dress – is a fixture of most Christmas theatre. Indeed the target audience of these jollies – Aladdin, Dick Whittington, Cinderella… – is the family; so kids from an early age get to snigger at hairy-arsed men in drag. Eddie Izzard’s cross-dressing shtick is so successful partly, I suspect, because he’s tapping into a tradition of not taking this ‘habit’ seriously. To discover some of these ‘dames’ actually have their genetalia removed would leave most here rolling in aisles.

    • Thanks: Kylie, Almost Missouri
  147. @Rob McX
    OT: More vax karma. Julie Powell gloats over deaths of unvaxed and regrets Covid didn't kill Judge Kavanaugh.

    https://twitter.com/licjulie/status/1443967802541551618?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1443967802541551618%7Ctwgr%5E85f7d63a6db7fdf6af88aea897f0a8732e210bc3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fjulie-powell-wished-death-on-the-unvaccinated-then-she-died-suddenly%2F

    Three weeks later she dropped dead aged 49.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Muggles, @Jack D, @Jon

    Her last tweet is about having ‘Black Hairy Tongue’ and how everyone, including her doctor, told her it was nothing to worry about, oops.

  148. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey
    My guess is that it's federalism and the lack of socialized medicine. Federalism means different laws in different states. Florida can outlaw trans surgeries (on minors, at least) but California can not only allow it, but mandate insurance coverage for it. In the US even some cities get in on the act of offering, or even mandating, insurance coverage for transgender surgeries.

    Socialized medicine means that there are fewer private entities pushing trans treatment and surgeries for all the money it brings in. Supposedly "gender confirmation surgeries" - a bullshit Orwellian term if ever there was one - are huge sources of income for places like Vanderbilt, with the added bonus of creating patients requiring lifetime care. The NHS gets a certain amount of money from the UK government, and if it at least attempts to carry out its fiduciary duty to the taxpayers, it's going to try to ax treatments that are wasteful, useless, and actually harmful.

    And over and above all of this is the reality of deficit spending. The US can tolerate huge budget deficits because we have the world's reserve currency. The ability of the government to spend money without having to tax the citizens to do so enables all kinds of stupidity that otherwise would not exist.

    Replies: @Ian Smith, @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous

    “My guess is that it’s federalism and the lack of socialized medicine.”
    Good points.
    My guess is that socialized medicine is why it got farther, faster in the UK.
    But it is so repugnant to reasonable human sensibility that the backlash came sooner.
    In the US, I wouldn’t be surprised if the majority of those voting D this Tuesday have literally NO IDEA that this stuff even happens or regard it as some absurd “right wing” conspiracy theory.
    That’s partly due to federalism and the mishmash of policies that fund the medical system.

  149. @Wokechoke
    @SFG

    The Ukies and Poles are unwittingly swallowing all sorts of trans sausage. They just don’t have the smarts to see it yet.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev

    From their point of view Trans is a stupid fad that will mocked by the next generation. Russian rule takes decades or centuries to overturn. Trans people never organised a Katyn or a Bucha. Russians did. Choice is pretty clear.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Trans people never organised a Katyn or a Bucha. Russians did.

    Beria and Stalin, who proposed and approved the Katyn murders, were both Georgians.

    Bucha was IMHO a Ukrainian crime against perceived "collaborators", as certainly were the most recent murders in Kupyansk. Azov people posted the footage.


    The girl, young and long-legged, is led by two Azov “men” above the pit in Kupiansk, recaptured by Ukraine, where already several other young people lie dead, hands tied behind their backs.

     

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/29066

    Remember ‘We’re hunting them down and shooting them like pigs’?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11284819/How-Ukrainian-intelligence-chiefs-tracking-collaborators-worked-Russians.html

    "Russian rule takes decades or centuries to overturn."

    But as I keep pointing out to you slowcoaches, you still have a country and a people at the end of it. GAE occupation means the ethnic displacement of your people.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Jack D

  150. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rob McX
    When this is over and people come to their senses (if that ever happens), I hope there's no transamnesty. Every last person responsible for turning children into sterile mutants needs to be put on trial.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AKAHorace

    I agree.
    These “medical” treatments were never, ever justified by anything resembling “science” as an educated person would understand it.
    It would be unethical and illegal to “experimentally” test “transgender” treatments (what the Orwellians call “gender-affirming care”).
    So quite obviously it has never been done, and the “medical professionals” who do this stuff can reasonably be charged under existing criminal law.
    It matters not a whit if “state medical boards” or some other bureaucrats sanctioned this stuff.
    Bureaucracy has NOTHING to do with science, properly understood.
    The political authorities sanctioned Nazi medical experiments too… throwing prisoners into freezing water, murderous twin experiments, etc.

  151. One word: Mumsnet. Apparently all the Mums get together on that site and they tend to be pretty protective of their kids.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @bjdubbs


    One word: Mumsnet.
     
    I hadn't heard of this before, and that sounds like a good site. But still, in the US such a site would have been pressured by leftwing extortion groups, first at its advertisers, then at its webhost, then its DDoS mitigation, then its payment processors, until it became a "safe space" for trannies (i.e., no one could critisize trannies without being banned). How did Mumsnet resist such pressure? Or are UK tranny groups uninformed in the ways of extortion?
  152. @Graham
    @Jack D

    Yeah, a little touchy, true. I just prefer evidence-based posting. No matter. But my main point remains. Male transvestites do no harm to themselves apart from making themselves ridiculous. The real issue is the brainwash-drug-mutilate sequence applied to female-to-male ‘transgender’ individuals. I am still in shock at the appearance of one such individual I have met.

    Replies: @SFG

    Quite a few spergy young men are getting convinced they’re women, for similar reasons-you’re at the bottom of the straight male hierarchy (and straight men are evil anyway), why not try something else? Add in the fantasy prone personality and you probably get a lot of the ex-men Steve is talking about. The results are even worse as androgens are pretty good at making women appear masculine-they do it in utero after all-but there’s not much you can do about big hands and an Adam’s apple.

    Steve says they’re very nasty, and probably they are. But one reason may be, once you’ve swallowed the Kool-Aid and look like a freak, where else are you going to go?

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @SFG

    Where else to go? Suicide I'd guess!

  153. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Wokechoke

    From their point of view Trans is a stupid fad that will mocked by the next generation. Russian rule takes decades or centuries to overturn. Trans people never organised a Katyn or a Bucha. Russians did. Choice is pretty clear.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Trans people never organised a Katyn or a Bucha. Russians did.

    Beria and Stalin, who proposed and approved the Katyn murders, were both Georgians.

    Bucha was IMHO a Ukrainian crime against perceived “collaborators”, as certainly were the most recent murders in Kupyansk. Azov people posted the footage.

    The girl, young and long-legged, is led by two Azov “men” above the pit in Kupiansk, recaptured by Ukraine, where already several other young people lie dead, hands tied behind their backs.

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/29066

    Remember ‘We’re hunting them down and shooting them like pigs’?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11284819/How-Ukrainian-intelligence-chiefs-tracking-collaborators-worked-Russians.html

    “Russian rule takes decades or centuries to overturn.”

    But as I keep pointing out to you slowcoaches, you still have a country and a people at the end of it. GAE occupation means the ethnic displacement of your people.

    • Agree: LondonBob
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @YetAnotherAnon

    If i'm not mistaken he's saying that such perceptions are from the Ukie POV.

    , @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Bucha was IMHO a Ukrainian crime
     
    The Russians said that the Nazis did the Katyn Massacre also. They were lying both times. This kind of "these are not the droids you are looking for" mind bending only works on the weak willed.

    Replies: @David In TN

  154. @Jack D

    Why Is World War T Winning in U.S. But Starting to Lose in U.K.?
     
    First of all, is this really true? I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.

    2nd, Britain (or at least England) is small enough that it doesn't have a Federal system. The entire UK would fit inside California, with room to spare. So it's more useful to compare US states to the UK. Would you say that World War T is winning more in the UK than it is in Florida, for example?

    3rd, does the above headline really prove that "World War T is Starting to Lose in the UK"?

    It seems to me that there are skirmishes back and forth but no clear winner. A talk given by a speaker who is critical of transgenderism was the subject of an announced boycott by some Cambridge dons. This is about what you would expect to happen at a liberal university in America (except here Leftists might try to shout down such a speaker and Leftists no longer bother to say that they are in favor of free speech as the UK profs said). Then some wealthy conservative donors to the U were critical of the boycott and threatened to withhold their donations. The pro-T professors refused to apologize. Again, this might have played out in the exact same way in the US.

    The UK pro-trans dons are still pro-trans but they have typical British humility because they at least acknowledged that the trans issue was "difficult and complex". Americans in general tend to see the world in black and white terms and will not admit of any difficulty in their position. Whatever their position is is mandated by God (or in the case of Leftists, by the atheist equivalent of God) and people with other views are devils, period. Any admission of nuance is seen as a sign of weakness or insufficient devotion to the cause. I see this on both sides of all major issues in the US.

    Replies: @raga10, @Wokechoke, @Graham, @Mike Tre, @Curle, @Peter Akuleyev

    I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.

    That actually testifies to British men being more rigid about gender than Americans. Men dressing up as women is only funny if it strikes you as absurd. A British man wearing women’s clothing still remains a man, he doesn’t for a second imagine he is actually a woman.

    Americans have always seemed less tied to gender than Europeans. The fact that American women lack some ineffable female charm and even seem kind of mannish was remarked upon by European men decades before transactivism reared its ugly head.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Peter Akuleyev


    The fact that American women lack some ineffable female charm and even seem kind of mannish was remarked upon by European men decades before transactivism reared its ugly head.
     
    This is true of Anglo-Saxon women in general, and of their North Sea neighbors. The counterbalacing factors just happen to be weakest in the US. They get stronger as you go through the Anglosphere, to Britain (i.e., "laddism"), Northern Europe, and finally the rest of the world.

    European women used to be much more coquettish in generations past, but seem to have lost much of it in recent decades. How much of that is from modern work life, modern love life, modern sport, modern education, American media influence, or whatever is worth looking into. That Somaliwomen haven't got the memo yet was plainly obvious in the Twin Cities. They are very coquettish. Whether the ones born here will maintain this is anyone's guess.

    Anybody notice that Chinese women tend to be less feminine than those in the rest of the Orient? Is this a Communist thing? Or capitalist hustle? Or a general rejection of foot-binding and its resulting infantilization?

    , @Curle
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Hellraiser types aside, southern women have been very feminine for a long time.

    Replies: @Russ

  155. I don’t know the answer to Steve’s title question, but a data point—or rather data series—can be gotten from Google’s ngram viewer if you put in the word “transsexual” or transsexuality-founder Magnus Hirschfeld’s name and restrict the results to “American English” versus “British English”.

    In either case you will see that Britain is currently in a bit of a trans trough after an earlier peak, while the US is currently at somewhat of a peak. What does that mean? I dunno. I suppose it gives some credence to the “Britain already peaked” argument, but of course “past performance is no guarantee of future results”, future peaks and troughs are unwritten, etc.

    You can even check the curve for other languages/countries. The advantage of Hirschfeld’s name is that you don’t have to know the word for “transsexual” in other languages, which may or may not map evenly to the English usage anyway.

    It’s also unfortunate that the ngram viewer only shows one dataset at a time, so you can’t compare the American line versus British line on the same chart.

    • Agree: Barbarossa
  156. @Reg Cæsar
    @Ganderson


    I also dislike the faux European names a lot of the clubs have.
     
    Many British and European clubs have fantastic names. Sheffield Wednesday, Partick Thistle, (Lisburn) Distillery, Borussia (Dortmund, Mönchengladbach, and several smaller communities), Hansa Rostock, Atalanta, and even an Arsenal and a Game Park (Djurgården).

    There could have been genuine native American counterparts for these-- Minnesota United FC plays not far from Pigs Eye Landing-- but instead MLS went from cheesy, often singular, World Football League-level names such as the Chicago Fire and the Dallas Burn to generic City FC (including the erstwhile Burn) or borrowing or renting actual club names from Europe such as "Sporting".

    It seems that half of them are the generic "United". Wednesday's Sheffield rivals were the first to go by that name, and it should have ended with them.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @sb, @Ganderson

    I was about to say that my favourite European soccer team is Young Boys in the Switzerland league but then I thought twice about it

    • LOL: AKAHorace
    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @sb

    Juventus means the same thing.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @sb


    I was about to say that my favourite European soccer team is Young Boys in the Switzerland league but then I thought twice about it
     
    Have they made the trip to Rosario?

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7f/be/73/7fbe7369ae36b25203ee39f1c4879c0c.jpg

  157. @Russ
    @Altai


    I was watching the MLS final last night, the LAFC ‘ultras’ (The typical obnoxious cringe LARPers you find in the MLS) had a giant trans flag bigger than any of the LAFC flags in their section.
     
    I too noticed this. In this vein, a few years ago when we channel-surfed across some NWSL women's soccer game, my wife observed that they had about as many rainbow flags in the seats as spectators.

    I would never have seen that LAFC flag had I not tuned in expecting an early World Series pregame show on Fox. Rough night for Philly sports fans.

    Replies: @Curle, @Cool Daddy Jimbo

    I too noticed this. In this vein, a few years ago when we channel-surfed across some NWSL women’s soccer game, my wife observed that they had about as many rainbow flags in the seats as spectators.

    This will be the end of women’s soccer in the USA. You know who supports women’s soccer? Suburban dads. Suburban dads take their daughters to NWSL games. They liked women’s soccer when it was peopled by fit, healthy, All-American girls, good role models for their nine-year-old daughters. Now it’s a nonstop “Yay for Gay!” event. Suburban dads are going to quietly say, “fuck this” and find something else to do.

    • Replies: @Jack P
    @Cool Daddy Jimbo

    The US women's soccer team has been led by angry feminists and had promoted left-wing causes for years. As far as I can tell there has not been loss of support. Unfortunately many suburban dads are clueless or ignorant.

    The NWSL is definitely full of LGBT etc. propaganda, disgustingly so.

    Parents should prevent their daughters from looking up to the current US women's team. In the next several years, the team looks to become somewhat blacker but maybe less lesbian.

    College women's soccer is where you can see attractive, fit middle class girls get after it.

    Replies: @cool daddy jimbo

  158. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Trans people never organised a Katyn or a Bucha. Russians did.

    Beria and Stalin, who proposed and approved the Katyn murders, were both Georgians.

    Bucha was IMHO a Ukrainian crime against perceived "collaborators", as certainly were the most recent murders in Kupyansk. Azov people posted the footage.


    The girl, young and long-legged, is led by two Azov “men” above the pit in Kupiansk, recaptured by Ukraine, where already several other young people lie dead, hands tied behind their backs.

     

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/29066

    Remember ‘We’re hunting them down and shooting them like pigs’?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11284819/How-Ukrainian-intelligence-chiefs-tracking-collaborators-worked-Russians.html

    "Russian rule takes decades or centuries to overturn."

    But as I keep pointing out to you slowcoaches, you still have a country and a people at the end of it. GAE occupation means the ethnic displacement of your people.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Jack D

    If i’m not mistaken he’s saying that such perceptions are from the Ukie POV.

  159. @sb
    @Reg Cæsar

    I was about to say that my favourite European soccer team is Young Boys in the Switzerland league but then I thought twice about it

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Reg Cæsar

    Juventus means the same thing.

  160. @SFG
    @Graham

    Quite a few spergy young men are getting convinced they’re women, for similar reasons-you’re at the bottom of the straight male hierarchy (and straight men are evil anyway), why not try something else? Add in the fantasy prone personality and you probably get a lot of the ex-men Steve is talking about. The results are even worse as androgens are pretty good at making women appear masculine-they do it in utero after all-but there’s not much you can do about big hands and an Adam’s apple.

    Steve says they’re very nasty, and probably they are. But one reason may be, once you’ve swallowed the Kool-Aid and look like a freak, where else are you going to go?

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    Where else to go? Suicide I’d guess!

  161. That actually testifies to British men being more rigid about gender than Americans.

    That’s true, or at least the female impersonator was always a comedy figure in British entertainment, e.g. Danny La Rue, Barry Humphries (Dame Edna Everage), and pantomime dames. I often heard British feminists protesting that drag acts were insulting to women. Any man who contemplates transitioning knows he is going to face a lot of sniggering contempt. It’s a bit like dressing up as a clown – acceptable in the context of entertainment, but otherwise ridiculous.

  162. @Almost Missouri
    @Carol


    you may not want to go down that rabbit hole.
     
    You're right, I don't. But then the rabbit hole has come to me from extended family members.

    They tend to be on the short side and not very attractive anyway.
     
    Short needn't be unattractive. There are many small attractive women. But maybe in this case there is an "intersection".

    In the case of my extended family member who decided she is not female, she was a reasonably attractive girl of normal height and weight, but she had already laid waste to a lot of that through a series of bad decisions before transmania came along. At that point, she may have thought that there wasn't much left to lose, and since being a female hadn't worked out so great, she may as well try the New Thing.

    I don’t think they’ve ever been around a real man in their life.
     
    In my family member's case, she was raised by liberals in one of the most liberal jurisdictions in the country, so yeah, she was probably underexposed to actual virility, to put it mildly.

    these male surgeons specializing in phalloplasty are just perfecting their art in order to enhance you less endowed dudes. Ka-ching!
     
    Do you think most of the surgeons doing these grotesqueries are male paraphiliacs? I mean, I would expect the median trans-surgeon to resemble Admiral Levine, yet the only trans-surgeons I've ever seen have all been surprisingly (and troublingly) normal-appearing women.

    Replies: @Flying Dutchman

    Do you think most of the surgeons doing these grotesqueries are male paraphiliacs? I mean, I would expect the median trans-surgeon to resemble Admiral Levine, yet the only trans-surgeons I’ve ever seen have all been surprisingly (and troublingly) normal-appearing women.

    That’s the banality of evil.

    • Agree: Gordo
  163. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Trans people never organised a Katyn or a Bucha. Russians did.

    Beria and Stalin, who proposed and approved the Katyn murders, were both Georgians.

    Bucha was IMHO a Ukrainian crime against perceived "collaborators", as certainly were the most recent murders in Kupyansk. Azov people posted the footage.


    The girl, young and long-legged, is led by two Azov “men” above the pit in Kupiansk, recaptured by Ukraine, where already several other young people lie dead, hands tied behind their backs.

     

    https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/29066

    Remember ‘We’re hunting them down and shooting them like pigs’?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11284819/How-Ukrainian-intelligence-chiefs-tracking-collaborators-worked-Russians.html

    "Russian rule takes decades or centuries to overturn."

    But as I keep pointing out to you slowcoaches, you still have a country and a people at the end of it. GAE occupation means the ethnic displacement of your people.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Jack D

    Bucha was IMHO a Ukrainian crime

    The Russians said that the Nazis did the Katyn Massacre also. They were lying both times. This kind of “these are not the droids you are looking for” mind bending only works on the weak willed.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Jack D

    The Russians tried to make the Katyn Massacre a part of the Nuremberg indictment. The American and British judges let the Soviet judges pontificate about Katyn for a few hours before quietly dropping it, since they knew the Soviet NKVD had killed the Polish officers.

    Replies: @Jack D

  164. Perhaps Britain better maintained the academic culture of its institutions, (Oxford, Cambridge etc.) which is a prophylaxis against moral claims cloaked as academic/expert consensus which are aggressively coerced? The formal culture of debating where one’s skill is honed by taking either pro/con side of an issue and pressing it means that fewer issues are put outside of discussion – one would expect that an advocate for transing children should be able to thoroughly make the case in an adversarial proceeding. The U.S. doesn’t really do debating – one side of an issue gets associated with the respectable or cool side of a divided of society, and opponents get shamed and coerced into falsifying their preferences until that side has 51% in a single dubious public opinion poll. Then the issue is settled for all time.

    Also, my guess is that in the UK the right side of the political spectrum is less religious than in the U.S., and therefore in the U.S. every degenerate cultural innovation comes to the scene cosseted in a preemptive force field – viz, that its opponents are forcing their religious beliefs upon people who want to mutilate children and their victims simply by opposing them. The First Amendment, which in its text essentially only prevents the United States from having a “Church of the United States” is twisted to mean that as a matter of law the culture must be actively in opposition to the moral positions of every religion (well, the ones that remain uncaptured by the left).

    The British also seemed to have had a culture in which homosexuals were more integrated into the mainstream – stories of schoolboy dalliances at the great Public Schools, or the fussy titled aristocrat who buggers boys on the side while doing his duty to his house by being married to a woman. That perhaps makes it more difficult to smuggle a radical politics into demands for tolerance of homosexuals – if they’re already tolerated with a wink and a nudge, why would you need the radical politics?

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)


    The formal culture of debating where one’s skill is honed by taking either pro/con side of an issue and pressing it means that fewer issues are put outside of discussion – one would expect that an advocate for transing children should be able to thoroughly make the case in an adversarial proceeding.
     
    Correct me if this has changed, but I was told in a 1970s book by a couple of U.K. debaters who visited the US that they don't have this no-beliefs system that the US has. The sort of thing that as a favor had me be one of the judges in a small stakes debate session, but nothing I'd never do myself.

    Note also the black verbal biarrhea subversion of some fraction of debating in the US, and I'm sure Formally this "take either side at the last moment" system still exists, even if its Overton Window is today very narrow as you implicitly state.

    Your other points are good.
    , @Rob McX
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)


    Perhaps Britain better maintained the academic culture of its institutions, (Oxford, Cambridge etc.) which is a prophylaxis against moral claims cloaked as academic/expert consensus which are aggressively coerced?
     
    That could be true, to some extent, but unfortunately there's no prophylaxis against mass immigration. Britain is as crazy as any other country in that respect. However, transanity is a new thing. There hasn't been a decades-long assault against people's resistance to it, as there has been against racism. People have been indoctrinated for over 70 years against any kind of healthy attitude to race. There was no pro-trans propaganda until a couple of years ago.
  165. @BB753
    @Jack D

    She most likely got a bad batch. I urge iSteve readers to check theirs.
    https://howbadismybatch.com/

    Replies: @Jack D

    That site is ridiculous. According to it, Moderna batch 032H20A is 15% lethal. People would be dropping like flies. The batch would be recalled. Nothing like this has happened. Their statistical methods must be incredibly flawed.

    The vaccine wars are over. Whoever wants it gets it and whoever doesn’t doesn’t. It doesn’t kill you but it doesn’t stop you from getting Covid either (though it helps). Move on to the next fake controversy like whether Paul Pelosi is really gay.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Jack D

    Well, people are dropping like flies. Check out excess mortality rates.

    Replies: @Jack D

  166. @Curle
    @Wilkey

    Peep Show’s spin was to make the black guy some sort of Gordon Gekko.










    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qdFWIYbIWHM

    Replies: @Ian Smith

    I actually quite enjoyed that character.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Ian Smith

    Yes. So did I.

  167. @Wilkey
    @Ian Smith


    The lack of socialized medicine in the US (combined with Jewish status) is a big part of why male genital mutilation is still a thing.
     
    Call it "male genital mutilation" if you like, but the health benefits are substantial (reduced risk of UTIs, STDs, and cancers. Plus, women tend to prefer the look.

    Brits might be less nutty about trannies, but they are even more into negrolatry than Americans. Watch any British show from the last 5-10 years and the black men are all noble and sensitive while the white men are all villains. The UK might have the most pozzed elite in the West. Very sad to see how far they’ve fallen.
     
    True indeed. I have a family member attending grad school in London. She's pretty damn conservative, despite being female and a grad student, and finds the whole phenomenon seriously disturbing. Something like half the ads feature blacks, and you can't see a show on the West End without it having half a dozen blacks who are ridiculously out of place.

    Replies: @Curle, @Ian Smith, @Ian Smith, @Russ

    Most men in Europe, Australia, and Japan are uncircumcised. Aside from the US (where it is declining), the only people into it are Jews, Muslims, and ooga booga tribes in places like New Guinea.

  168. @Rob McX
    When this is over and people come to their senses (if that ever happens), I hope there's no transamnesty. Every last person responsible for turning children into sterile mutants needs to be put on trial.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AKAHorace

    When this is over and people come to their senses (if that ever happens), I hope there’s no transamnesty. Every last person responsible for turning children into sterile mutants needs to be put on trial.

    A bit much, but there should be some settling of accounts. Perhaps one of the reasons for for forcing as many people as possible to publically support transitioning for school children is to make as many people as complicit as possible. The more who are complicit the less likely there is to be any reckoning.

    This, in particular is not going to age well.

    https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/trans-friendly-counter-protesters-drown-out-protester-at-westboro-school

  169. @Reg Cæsar
    @Ganderson


    I also dislike the faux European names a lot of the clubs have.
     
    Many British and European clubs have fantastic names. Sheffield Wednesday, Partick Thistle, (Lisburn) Distillery, Borussia (Dortmund, Mönchengladbach, and several smaller communities), Hansa Rostock, Atalanta, and even an Arsenal and a Game Park (Djurgården).

    There could have been genuine native American counterparts for these-- Minnesota United FC plays not far from Pigs Eye Landing-- but instead MLS went from cheesy, often singular, World Football League-level names such as the Chicago Fire and the Dallas Burn to generic City FC (including the erstwhile Burn) or borrowing or renting actual club names from Europe such as "Sporting".

    It seems that half of them are the generic "United". Wednesday's Sheffield rivals were the first to go by that name, and it should have ended with them.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @sb, @Ganderson

    As I’m sure you’re aware, Euro club names grew organically out of, say, the origins of the club. We have our own naming conventions here . (although that hasn’t prevented a number of stupid names from weaseling in: “The Wild “ comes to mind)

    “Loons” is not a bad moniker. I did notice that my brother and I significantly raised the average age of the crowd, and lowered the average tattoo count.

    And in Durgården (Stockholm) news, it’s Elite league hockey team, which is the Yankees to Frölunda’s (Göteborg) Red Sox, or vice versa, was relegated after a miserable season.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Ganderson


    We have our own naming conventions here.
     
    When was the last time a team was named by a grizzled sportswriter for its sock color (Cardinals, Browns, Tigers), recruiting practices (Pirates), Tammany Hall connections (Braves), or life-threatening behavior of its fans (Dodgers)? (Heck, whatever happened to grizzled sportswriters?)

    Winnipeg, Cleveland, and Washington named franchises after earlier ones that had left. Seattle won America's first Stanley Cup, but did they think to honor this, too? No, their new squad is named for a cephalopod. A singular one. That's a "convention" in the way that hip-hop is a "musical genre".

    If Portland ever gets a franchise, it needs to be the Rosebuds, who went to the Cup finals the year before.

  170. @Dumbo
    All "culture wars" are more extreme in the U.S. than in Europe, simply because Americans are more insane (or closer to the brainwashing eye of the hurricane).

    Europeans, despite brainwashing, still retain some modicum of common sense or social conservatism.

    That said, it's pretty insane in Europe too, and I don't think that "sanity is starting to win" in the UK, at all. That is in fact a very far-fetched thought that only iSteve could make.

    Replies: @Sam hildebrand

    Europeans, despite brainwashing, still retain some modicum of common sense or social conservatism.

    I don’t know about that. In the US you only loose your job, bank account and twitter handle for speaking against trannies and Muslims and questioning the holocaust. In most of Europe you go to jail. To see the future of the US, just look at the present in Europe.

  171. @Wilkey
    @Ian Smith


    The lack of socialized medicine in the US (combined with Jewish status) is a big part of why male genital mutilation is still a thing.
     
    Call it "male genital mutilation" if you like, but the health benefits are substantial (reduced risk of UTIs, STDs, and cancers. Plus, women tend to prefer the look.

    Brits might be less nutty about trannies, but they are even more into negrolatry than Americans. Watch any British show from the last 5-10 years and the black men are all noble and sensitive while the white men are all villains. The UK might have the most pozzed elite in the West. Very sad to see how far they’ve fallen.
     
    True indeed. I have a family member attending grad school in London. She's pretty damn conservative, despite being female and a grad student, and finds the whole phenomenon seriously disturbing. Something like half the ads feature blacks, and you can't see a show on the West End without it having half a dozen blacks who are ridiculously out of place.

    Replies: @Curle, @Ian Smith, @Ian Smith, @Russ

    This went a long way to change my mind:

  172. @Carol
    @Almost Missouri

    You can do like I do and lurk where they think they can post safely. But then you may not want to go down that rabbit hole.

    Some of those poor girls think they can really change their sex. And I don't think they've ever been around a real man in their life. They tend to be on the short side and not very attractive anyway.

    Some of the older ones do seem to have more of a grip on it. Testosterone is a great mood booster, at least until their hair falls out. The facial hair and the voice change are forever.

    Who wants to be short AND bald?

    Anyway, I've come to the conclusion these male surgeons specializing in phalloplasty are just perfecting their art in order to enhance you less endowed dudes. Ka-ching!

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Ralph L

    If these girls are even a little bit attracted to guys, wouldn’t they know being a short guy won’t help attracting “straight” women? Are most of them attracted to women, or not sure?

    Until I read about autogynephilia here, I assumed most MtF were effeminate gay guys attracted to straight men (tranny hooker types), who didn’t realize the men they’d attract as women aren’t exactly normal straights.

    No wonder some trans are so angry, when they limit their pool of possible sex partners so much.

  173. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Jack D

    I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.

    That actually testifies to British men being more rigid about gender than Americans. Men dressing up as women is only funny if it strikes you as absurd. A British man wearing women's clothing still remains a man, he doesn't for a second imagine he is actually a woman.

    Americans have always seemed less tied to gender than Europeans. The fact that American women lack some ineffable female charm and even seem kind of mannish was remarked upon by European men decades before transactivism reared its ugly head.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Curle

    The fact that American women lack some ineffable female charm and even seem kind of mannish was remarked upon by European men decades before transactivism reared its ugly head.

    This is true of Anglo-Saxon women in general, and of their North Sea neighbors. The counterbalacing factors just happen to be weakest in the US. They get stronger as you go through the Anglosphere, to Britain (i.e., “laddism”), Northern Europe, and finally the rest of the world.

    European women used to be much more coquettish in generations past, but seem to have lost much of it in recent decades. How much of that is from modern work life, modern love life, modern sport, modern education, American media influence, or whatever is worth looking into. That Somaliwomen haven’t got the memo yet was plainly obvious in the Twin Cities. They are very coquettish. Whether the ones born here will maintain this is anyone’s guess.

    Anybody notice that Chinese women tend to be less feminine than those in the rest of the Orient? Is this a Communist thing? Or capitalist hustle? Or a general rejection of foot-binding and its resulting infantilization?

  174. @Gary in Gramercy
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks; you've now ruined this song (originally by Jan and Dean; the Alex Chilton cover is a vast improvement, as it picks up the pace substantially) for me forever:

    https://youtu.be/pPLiFBTelv4

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    And children by the million sing for Alex Chilton
    When he comes ’round
    They sing, “I’m in love
    And what’s that song?
    Yeah, I’m in love
    With that song”

    –the Replacements

    • Thanks: Russ
  175. @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar


    Hansa Rostock
     
    People in that area seem to have a thing about the Hanseatic League. You can see this on the car registration plates. Hamburg is not H, as you'd expect, but HH - Hansestadt Hamburg. Same with all the other cities in the area - HB (Bremen), HR (Rostock), etc.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    People in that area seem to have a thing about the Hanseatic League. You can see this on the car registration plates. Hamburg is not H, as you’d expect, but HH – Hansestadt Hamburg. Same with all the other cities in the area – HB (Bremen), HR (Rostock), etc.

    Can you blame them? Look at that “badge”:

    Max Weber types claim that Protestantism is the mother of capitalism, but the Hanseatics suggest the reverse may be the case.

  176. @Jack D
    @BB753

    That site is ridiculous. According to it, Moderna batch 032H20A is 15% lethal. People would be dropping like flies. The batch would be recalled. Nothing like this has happened. Their statistical methods must be incredibly flawed.

    The vaccine wars are over. Whoever wants it gets it and whoever doesn't doesn't. It doesn't kill you but it doesn't stop you from getting Covid either (though it helps). Move on to the next fake controversy like whether Paul Pelosi is really gay.

    Replies: @BB753

    Well, people are dropping like flies. Check out excess mortality rates.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @BB753

    Whatever is causing excess mortality, it ain't the vax. Maybe Covid itself?

    The rate of reported death among vax recipients is 0.0027% (not 15%) according to VAERS but VAERS encourages reporting of all suspicious deaths - e.g. you get the vax and then drop dead the next day. Your death might or might not have had anything to do with the vax, but out of every 37,000 doses given, VAERS has received 1 death report which might or might not have been caused by the vax.

    I really don't want to start the Vax war again. Give it a rest. People will or won't get the vax according to their preference. If people could be persuaded by phony stats on fake websites, they would have been persuaded already.

    Replies: @BB753

  177. @Wokechoke
    @Dream

    Lambeth is a highly jigged and nigged area. Oddly the Imperial War Museum and old Bedlam is located there.

    Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)

    Lambeth is also the location of Lambeth Palace, the official London residence of the Archbishop of Canterbury.

    Friends of Christ, let us earnestly pray
    That Diversity, maybe one day,
    Will set fire to the Seat
    Of Archbishop Lord Cheat
    And so Enoch will have the last say.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Eustace Tilley (not)



    Lambeth is a highly jigged and nigged area. Oddly the Imperial War Museum and old Bedlam is located there.

     

    Lambeth is also the location of Lambeth Palace, the official London residence of the Archbishop of Canterbury.
     
    It is famous for another controversy 92 years ago:


    Lambeth, 90 Years Later

    And so Enoch will have the last say.

     

    Well, don't dam the "river of blood"!

    Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)

  178. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Zelo

    Israel has gays & trannies galore.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/defying-ministry-rabbis-tell-school-to-put-transgender-boy-in-female-only-class/

    Defying ministry, rabbis tell school to put transgender boy in female-only class

    And- grow up.

    Thinking that some Jewish conspiracy is behind US Tranny invasion is infantile. There is no Erich von Transtein.

    Replies: @Zelo, @Odin

    For others who found this as ambiguous as I did: “transgender boy” here means a girl who wants to be a boy.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
  179. @Barbarossa
    @Anonymous

    Sorry, that just sounds like made up BS.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Race-Ethnicity-Trans-Adults-US-Oct-2016.pdf

    RACE AND ETHNICITY OF ADULTS WHO IDENTIFY AS TRANSGENDERED by AR Flores · 2016 · Cited by 133

    … more likely to dentify as Latino or Hispanic than the non-transgender adult population.5 … more likely to be African-American or Black and Hispanic

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @Anonymous

    That's 6 years old, and the data is even older. The white girl mass transhysteria is recent.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  180. @Ian Smith
    @Wilkey

    The lack of socialized medicine in the US (combined with Jewish status) is a big part of why male genital mutilation is still a thing.

    Brits might be less nutty about trannies, but they are even more into negrolatry than Americans. Watch any British show from the last 5-10 years and the black men are all noble and sensitive while the white men are all villains.

    The UK might have the most pozzed elite in the West. Very sad to see how far they’ve fallen.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @epebble

    But FGM is still generally rejected (despite the lack of socialized medicine) as unacceptable (and involuntary) bodily harm.

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    @epebble

    As well it should! To be fair, FGM is much worse, but circumcision is still barbaric.

  181. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    Perhaps Britain better maintained the academic culture of its institutions, (Oxford, Cambridge etc.) which is a prophylaxis against moral claims cloaked as academic/expert consensus which are aggressively coerced? The formal culture of debating where one's skill is honed by taking either pro/con side of an issue and pressing it means that fewer issues are put outside of discussion - one would expect that an advocate for transing children should be able to thoroughly make the case in an adversarial proceeding. The U.S. doesn't really do debating - one side of an issue gets associated with the respectable or cool side of a divided of society, and opponents get shamed and coerced into falsifying their preferences until that side has 51% in a single dubious public opinion poll. Then the issue is settled for all time.

    Also, my guess is that in the UK the right side of the political spectrum is less religious than in the U.S., and therefore in the U.S. every degenerate cultural innovation comes to the scene cosseted in a preemptive force field - viz, that its opponents are forcing their religious beliefs upon people who want to mutilate children and their victims simply by opposing them. The First Amendment, which in its text essentially only prevents the United States from having a "Church of the United States" is twisted to mean that as a matter of law the culture must be actively in opposition to the moral positions of every religion (well, the ones that remain uncaptured by the left).

    The British also seemed to have had a culture in which homosexuals were more integrated into the mainstream - stories of schoolboy dalliances at the great Public Schools, or the fussy titled aristocrat who buggers boys on the side while doing his duty to his house by being married to a woman. That perhaps makes it more difficult to smuggle a radical politics into demands for tolerance of homosexuals - if they're already tolerated with a wink and a nudge, why would you need the radical politics?

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Rob McX

    The formal culture of debating where one’s skill is honed by taking either pro/con side of an issue and pressing it means that fewer issues are put outside of discussion – one would expect that an advocate for transing children should be able to thoroughly make the case in an adversarial proceeding.

    Correct me if this has changed, but I was told in a 1970s book by a couple of U.K. debaters who visited the US that they don’t have this no-beliefs system that the US has. The sort of thing that as a favor had me be one of the judges in a small stakes debate session, but nothing I’d never do myself.

    Note also the black verbal biarrhea subversion of some fraction of debating in the US, and I’m sure Formally this “take either side at the last moment” system still exists, even if its Overton Window is today very narrow as you implicitly state.

    Your other points are good.

  182. @Jack D
    @Kylie

    I think God gets too much credit for this kind of stuff. God is not a micromanager. He has the whole universe to worry about. I always get a kick when MLB pitchers (usually Latino) make some gesture thanking God when they get out of a tough inning. Where was God when the other team was hitting home runs? How come God gets BOTH team's relievers out of tough innings? For every Julie Powell who overstayed her welcome (even though her life was not long) there is a George Gershwin gone much too soon.

    Replies: @BosTex, @Curle, @Kylie, @Ganderson

    I once saw an interview with an old time NFLer, I think it may have been Art Donovan. He was asked if they prayed before games- he said yes, but they prayed that no one would get hurt. He said (quote from memory) “ We figured God didn’t really care whether or not the Colts beat the Bears.”

  183. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    Perhaps Britain better maintained the academic culture of its institutions, (Oxford, Cambridge etc.) which is a prophylaxis against moral claims cloaked as academic/expert consensus which are aggressively coerced? The formal culture of debating where one's skill is honed by taking either pro/con side of an issue and pressing it means that fewer issues are put outside of discussion - one would expect that an advocate for transing children should be able to thoroughly make the case in an adversarial proceeding. The U.S. doesn't really do debating - one side of an issue gets associated with the respectable or cool side of a divided of society, and opponents get shamed and coerced into falsifying their preferences until that side has 51% in a single dubious public opinion poll. Then the issue is settled for all time.

    Also, my guess is that in the UK the right side of the political spectrum is less religious than in the U.S., and therefore in the U.S. every degenerate cultural innovation comes to the scene cosseted in a preemptive force field - viz, that its opponents are forcing their religious beliefs upon people who want to mutilate children and their victims simply by opposing them. The First Amendment, which in its text essentially only prevents the United States from having a "Church of the United States" is twisted to mean that as a matter of law the culture must be actively in opposition to the moral positions of every religion (well, the ones that remain uncaptured by the left).

    The British also seemed to have had a culture in which homosexuals were more integrated into the mainstream - stories of schoolboy dalliances at the great Public Schools, or the fussy titled aristocrat who buggers boys on the side while doing his duty to his house by being married to a woman. That perhaps makes it more difficult to smuggle a radical politics into demands for tolerance of homosexuals - if they're already tolerated with a wink and a nudge, why would you need the radical politics?

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @Rob McX

    Perhaps Britain better maintained the academic culture of its institutions, (Oxford, Cambridge etc.) which is a prophylaxis against moral claims cloaked as academic/expert consensus which are aggressively coerced?

    That could be true, to some extent, but unfortunately there’s no prophylaxis against mass immigration. Britain is as crazy as any other country in that respect. However, transanity is a new thing. There hasn’t been a decades-long assault against people’s resistance to it, as there has been against racism. People have been indoctrinated for over 70 years against any kind of healthy attitude to race. There was no pro-trans propaganda until a couple of years ago.

  184. @sb
    @Reg Cæsar

    I was about to say that my favourite European soccer team is Young Boys in the Switzerland league but then I thought twice about it

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Reg Cæsar

    I was about to say that my favourite European soccer team is Young Boys in the Switzerland league but then I thought twice about it

    Have they made the trip to Rosario?

  185. I think it’s starting to lose in the US as well (after winning almost unopposed for many years). The Republican party is completely in favor of separating sports by biology and is increasingly opposed to transgender “treatment” for minors. And they are finally hitting the Democrats on that issue, with the people on their side.

  186. @Eustace Tilley (not)
    @Wokechoke

    Lambeth is also the location of Lambeth Palace, the official London residence of the Archbishop of Canterbury.

    Friends of Christ, let us earnestly pray
    That Diversity, maybe one day,
    Will set fire to the Seat
    Of Archbishop Lord Cheat
    And so Enoch will have the last say.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Lambeth is a highly jigged and nigged area. Oddly the Imperial War Museum and old Bedlam is located there.

    Lambeth is also the location of Lambeth Palace, the official London residence of the Archbishop of Canterbury.

    It is famous for another controversy 92 years ago:

    Lambeth, 90 Years Later

    And so Enoch will have the last say.

    Well, don’t dam the “river of blood”!

    • Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)
    @Reg Cæsar

    That ecclesiastical text,
    Which left Mr. Eliot vexed,
    Was the very inception
    Of approved contraception;
    Hence the British are now oversexed.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  187. @Cool Daddy Jimbo
    @Russ


    I too noticed this. In this vein, a few years ago when we channel-surfed across some NWSL women’s soccer game, my wife observed that they had about as many rainbow flags in the seats as spectators.
     
    This will be the end of women's soccer in the USA. You know who supports women's soccer? Suburban dads. Suburban dads take their daughters to NWSL games. They liked women's soccer when it was peopled by fit, healthy, All-American girls, good role models for their nine-year-old daughters. Now it's a nonstop "Yay for Gay!" event. Suburban dads are going to quietly say, "fuck this" and find something else to do.

    Replies: @Jack P

    The US women’s soccer team has been led by angry feminists and had promoted left-wing causes for years. As far as I can tell there has not been loss of support. Unfortunately many suburban dads are clueless or ignorant.

    The NWSL is definitely full of LGBT etc. propaganda, disgustingly so.

    Parents should prevent their daughters from looking up to the current US women’s team. In the next several years, the team looks to become somewhat blacker but maybe less lesbian.

    College women’s soccer is where you can see attractive, fit middle class girls get after it.

    • Replies: @cool daddy jimbo
    @Jack P


    The US women’s soccer team has been led by angry feminists and had promoted left-wing causes for years.
     
    Maybe so, but in my view (generated by the occasional glance, not really a fan) the Mia Hamm era was not as openly Yay for Gay. It could very well be that I just wasn't paying attention.

    Several months ago the pink-haired freak was discussing men in women's sports. She opined that it was OK because "your high school volleyball team just isn't that important." Yes it is, honey. It's more important than the women's soccer league to those suburban dads in the stands.
  188. @Steve Sailer
    @Father Coughlin

    Whites of Central European descent (e.g., Slovaks) did a better job of holding on to urban Pittsburgh than most Anglo-Saxon whites did in holding on to their cities. Scots-Irish will fight for their country but not as much for their city: they tend to light out for the frontier instead.

    Replies: @Anon, @Chris Renner, @Reg Cæsar

    Whites of Central European descent (e.g., Slovaks) did a better job of holding on to urban Pittsburgh than most Anglo-Saxon whites did in holding on to their cities.

    Slovaks are the hillbillies of an otherwise flat (north) Eastern Europe. That they’d behave similarly to Scots-Irish and other mountain folk is no surprise.

    They even feature a mountain on their flag. As does Slovenia, adding to the confusion between tbe two.

    Fun fact: Slovakia’s is the only European tricolor with a cross.

    • Replies: @Father Coughlin
    @Reg Cæsar

    That tiny cross doesn't have the flag of the Penza Oblast, Russia, beat for piety however.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  189. @anonymous
    The US is 2-3% Jewish while UK is 0.5% Jewish. At the helm of movements to move society away from the white and religious nuclear family are Jewish intellectuals. It could be there are fewer Jewish intellectuals in the UK so less intense pressure to hold the line.

    At the same time Jews are able to create a lot of wealth. The UK is poorer than the US. The GDP per capita of both places with adjusting for purchasing power was $70,000 compared to $47,000 last year. This is despite the fact the UK has a lot better demographics. The UK is 86% white while the US is down to 57.8% non-Hispanic white from the 2020 Census.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Graham, @Mr. Grey, @Exile, @Snorri Godhi

    Britain’s Whiter demographics need to be considered through the lens of age and distribution. The Anglos are older, more atomized and rural, so their current influence is even more diluted and future influence will wane faster than those sanguine present, age-blind stats suggest. The draconian enthusiasm of Woke enforcement in the UK (esp. Scotland) also exceeds the US (hard to believe but sadly true).

  190. @anonymous
    The US is 2-3% Jewish while UK is 0.5% Jewish. At the helm of movements to move society away from the white and religious nuclear family are Jewish intellectuals. It could be there are fewer Jewish intellectuals in the UK so less intense pressure to hold the line.

    At the same time Jews are able to create a lot of wealth. The UK is poorer than the US. The GDP per capita of both places with adjusting for purchasing power was $70,000 compared to $47,000 last year. This is despite the fact the UK has a lot better demographics. The UK is 86% white while the US is down to 57.8% non-Hispanic white from the 2020 Census.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Graham, @Mr. Grey, @Exile, @Snorri Godhi

    British Jews, like French Jews, tend to vote conservative. Unlike (North?) American Jews, they know which side their bread is buttered.

    But i note that you specifically blame Jewish intellectuals. I don’t know about British Jewish intellectuals, but my impression is that British intellectuals in general tend to be a bit less insane than American intellectuals.

  191. @BB753
    @Jack D

    Well, people are dropping like flies. Check out excess mortality rates.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Whatever is causing excess mortality, it ain’t the vax. Maybe Covid itself?

    The rate of reported death among vax recipients is 0.0027% (not 15%) according to VAERS but VAERS encourages reporting of all suspicious deaths – e.g. you get the vax and then drop dead the next day. Your death might or might not have had anything to do with the vax, but out of every 37,000 doses given, VAERS has received 1 death report which might or might not have been caused by the vax.

    I really don’t want to start the Vax war again. Give it a rest. People will or won’t get the vax according to their preference. If people could be persuaded by phony stats on fake websites, they would have been persuaded already.

    • Agree: Inquiring Mind
    • Replies: @BB753
    @Jack D

    "Whatever is causing excess mortality, it ain’t the vax. "
    Don't discard the possibility. Let's look into that.
    I know vaccine injuries are difficult to prove. That's one of the reasons big pharma CEOs aren't all in jail.

    "I really don’t want to start the Vax war again. Give it a rest. People will or won’t get the vax according to their preference. "

    Mandates anyone? Not so long ago you supported mandates.

    Replies: @Travis

  192. I’m sure we can expect more of this in the future. Frankly I find it hard to think of these troublesome freaks as anything other than troublesome freaks.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11399015/Oregon-woman-sues-trans-care-team-abhorrent-misdiagnosis-left-MUTILATED.html?ito=native_share_article-top

  193. @Wilkey
    @Ian Smith


    The lack of socialized medicine in the US (combined with Jewish status) is a big part of why male genital mutilation is still a thing.
     
    Call it "male genital mutilation" if you like, but the health benefits are substantial (reduced risk of UTIs, STDs, and cancers. Plus, women tend to prefer the look.

    Brits might be less nutty about trannies, but they are even more into negrolatry than Americans. Watch any British show from the last 5-10 years and the black men are all noble and sensitive while the white men are all villains. The UK might have the most pozzed elite in the West. Very sad to see how far they’ve fallen.
     
    True indeed. I have a family member attending grad school in London. She's pretty damn conservative, despite being female and a grad student, and finds the whole phenomenon seriously disturbing. Something like half the ads feature blacks, and you can't see a show on the West End without it having half a dozen blacks who are ridiculously out of place.

    Replies: @Curle, @Ian Smith, @Ian Smith, @Russ

    Brits might be less nutty about trannies, but they are even more into negrolatry than Americans. Watch any British show from the last 5-10 years and the black men are all noble and sensitive while the white men are all villains. The UK might have the most pozzed elite in the West. Very sad to see how far they’ve fallen.

    True indeed. I have a family member attending grad school in London. She’s pretty damn conservative, despite being female and a grad student, and finds the whole phenomenon seriously disturbing. Something like half the ads feature blacks, and you can’t see a show on the West End without it having half a dozen blacks who are ridiculously out of place.

    When William F. Buckley Jr debated James Baldwin at Oxford (or wherever) in the 1960s, the UK commentator’s commentary was as if an angel were debating a demon. One guess as to which was which.

    In the 1960s, mind you.

  194. @Ian Smith
    @Curle

    I actually quite enjoyed that character.

    Replies: @Curle

    Yes. So did I.

  195. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Jack D

    I was always under the notion that British men fancied putting on dresses more than Americans.

    That actually testifies to British men being more rigid about gender than Americans. Men dressing up as women is only funny if it strikes you as absurd. A British man wearing women's clothing still remains a man, he doesn't for a second imagine he is actually a woman.

    Americans have always seemed less tied to gender than Europeans. The fact that American women lack some ineffable female charm and even seem kind of mannish was remarked upon by European men decades before transactivism reared its ugly head.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Curle

    Hellraiser types aside, southern women have been very feminine for a long time.

    • Replies: @Russ
    @Curle


    Hellraiser types aside, southern women have been very feminine for a long time.
     
    From a safe distance, I do enjoy the combination of hellraiserism and southern femininity offered by Dagen McDowell on the Gutfeld program.
  196. @Wokechoke
    @Jack D

    There are transexual Admirals in the US system if you have f'rgetton...Admiral Levine.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    USPHS Admirals are not Admirals.

  197. It is certainly nothing to do with Europe. Language barriers mean that public opinion, as distinct from elite opinion, in one country has a negligible influence on the others.

    The key to this case is probably the relationship of Caius College to Cambridge University. Cambridge alumni invariably make donations to their college rather than the university, whereas corporate donors and philanthropists are more likely to fund university projects. The proposal a year or two ago to remove the statue of Cecil Rhodes at Oriel College, Oxford foundered in much the same way.

  198. I think what happens generally is that Britain comes up with terrible ideas and waits for America to take the ball and run with it, and then Britain steps back and watches with glee.

    That’s precisely what’s happened here. Trans mania started in the UK, they successfully got the idea seeded in America, and now (by shutting down one hospital) they can appear to be “reasonable” by comparison.

    Trans people have no idea they’re lab rats in a grand depopulation experiment hatched in London, the latest manifestation of Malthus, Julian Huxley and Bertrand Russell.

  199. @bjdubbs
    One word: Mumsnet. Apparently all the Mums get together on that site and they tend to be pretty protective of their kids.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    One word: Mumsnet.

    I hadn’t heard of this before, and that sounds like a good site. But still, in the US such a site would have been pressured by leftwing extortion groups, first at its advertisers, then at its webhost, then its DDoS mitigation, then its payment processors, until it became a “safe space” for trannies (i.e., no one could critisize trannies without being banned). How did Mumsnet resist such pressure? Or are UK tranny groups uninformed in the ways of extortion?

  200. @Kylie
    @Jack D

    "For every Julie Powell who overstayed her welcome (even though her life was not long) there is a George Gershwin gone much too soon."

    Or even worse, a Michael Rabin. Probably the greatest violinist ever recorded, he had a miserable, tragic life and died aged 35. Today, he's virtually unknown.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=WjAqBMxc2tw&feature=share&si=EMSIkaIECMiOmarE6JChQQ

    Replies: @BosTex

    Beautiful piece. Thanks for sharing.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @BosTex

    So glad you enjoyed it!

    It's a marvelous showpiece, of course, but in the opinion of many, myself included, Rabin's interpretation is by far the best. He was 22 when he recorded it.

  201. @Curle
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Hellraiser types aside, southern women have been very feminine for a long time.

    Replies: @Russ

    Hellraiser types aside, southern women have been very feminine for a long time.

    From a safe distance, I do enjoy the combination of hellraiserism and southern femininity offered by Dagen McDowell on the Gutfeld program.

  202. @Anonymous
    @Barbarossa

    https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Race-Ethnicity-Trans-Adults-US-Oct-2016.pdf



    RACE AND ETHNICITY OF ADULTS WHO IDENTIFY AS TRANSGENDERED by AR Flores · 2016 · Cited by 133


    ... more likely to dentify as Latino or Hispanic than the non-transgender adult population.5 ... more likely to be African-American or Black and Hispanic
     

    Replies: @Ralph L

    That’s 6 years old, and the data is even older. The white girl mass transhysteria is recent.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Ralph L

    And? Do you seriously think the statistical momentum changed in 6 years? You sound like a zoomer brat. The trend has remained stable for over 40 years and u can find a variety of sources in the last couple years that affirm:


    Blacks, Latinos and Asians (especially males) are more likely to be gay/transgendered


    White people (especially males) are less likely to be gay/ransgendered


    The "white woman trans hysteria" is irrelevant as the vast majority of transsexuals are male-to-female.

  203. @BosTex
    @Kylie

    Beautiful piece. Thanks for sharing.

    Replies: @Kylie

    So glad you enjoyed it!

    It’s a marvelous showpiece, of course, but in the opinion of many, myself included, Rabin’s interpretation is by far the best. He was 22 when he recorded it.

  204. @Jack D
    @BB753

    Whatever is causing excess mortality, it ain't the vax. Maybe Covid itself?

    The rate of reported death among vax recipients is 0.0027% (not 15%) according to VAERS but VAERS encourages reporting of all suspicious deaths - e.g. you get the vax and then drop dead the next day. Your death might or might not have had anything to do with the vax, but out of every 37,000 doses given, VAERS has received 1 death report which might or might not have been caused by the vax.

    I really don't want to start the Vax war again. Give it a rest. People will or won't get the vax according to their preference. If people could be persuaded by phony stats on fake websites, they would have been persuaded already.

    Replies: @BB753

    “Whatever is causing excess mortality, it ain’t the vax. ”
    Don’t discard the possibility. Let’s look into that.
    I know vaccine injuries are difficult to prove. That’s one of the reasons big pharma CEOs aren’t all in jail.

    “I really don’t want to start the Vax war again. Give it a rest. People will or won’t get the vax according to their preference. ”

    Mandates anyone? Not so long ago you supported mandates.

    • Thanks: Russ
    • Replies: @Travis
    @BB753

    exactly...even today our armed forces mandate all enlisted troops get vaccinated with the obsolete vaccines...hundreds of colleges are mandating the vaccine and boosters....

    recall all the hype about the vaccines being 90% effective...yet no data on the booster yet...all the mice in the study contracted COVID. Despite no evidence that the boosters are effective, colleges are mandating teens to get boosted.

    These vaccines were a horrible failure. At best they offered immunity for 5 months against the original strain...today they offer zero efficacy against the current variants and may result in negative efficacy.

  205. Anonymous[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ralph L
    @Anonymous

    That's 6 years old, and the data is even older. The white girl mass transhysteria is recent.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    And? Do you seriously think the statistical momentum changed in 6 years? You sound like a zoomer brat. The trend has remained stable for over 40 years and u can find a variety of sources in the last couple years that affirm:

    Blacks, Latinos and Asians (especially males) are more likely to be gay/transgendered

    White people (especially males) are less likely to be gay/ransgendered

    The “white woman trans hysteria” is irrelevant as the vast majority of transsexuals are male-to-female.

  206. ‘Lee Kwan Yew could explain why it might have been more appealing to 1948 Britain than to the 21st-century “U” S of A’

    There’s little mystery about why socialised medicine was popular in 1940s Britain.

    Huge numbers of people couldn’t afford to go to a doctor so if they were sick so they had to take to bed and wait to either die or get better.

    It would appear much differently in a country with a large middle-class like the United States.

    Here in Ireland there is a keen awareness that too much socialism, of the Peronism or Venezuela kind, will kill the golden goose but that doesn’t kill the desire (to varying degrees) for a fairly broad social democratic set-up.

  207. @epebble
    @Ian Smith

    But FGM is still generally rejected (despite the lack of socialized medicine) as unacceptable (and involuntary) bodily harm.

    Replies: @Ian Smith

    As well it should! To be fair, FGM is much worse, but circumcision is still barbaric.

  208. @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    Whites of Central European descent (e.g., Slovaks) did a better job of holding on to urban Pittsburgh than most Anglo-Saxon whites did in holding on to their cities.
     
    Slovaks are the hillbillies of an otherwise flat (north) Eastern Europe. That they'd behave similarly to Scots-Irish and other mountain folk is no surprise.

    https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Martin-Price-4/publication/308573669/figure/fig1/AS:[email protected]/Mountains-constitute-35-of-Europes-area-Map-courtesy-of-the-European-Environment.png


    They even feature a mountain on their flag. As does Slovenia, adding to the confusion between tbe two.


    https://www.veryhungrynomads.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Slovakia-vs-Slovenia-flag.png


    Fun fact: Slovakia's is the only European tricolor with a cross.

    Replies: @Father Coughlin

    That tiny cross doesn’t have the flag of the Penza Oblast, Russia, beat for piety however.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Father Coughlin


    That tiny cross doesn’t have the flag of the Penza Oblast, Russia, beat for piety however.
     
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Flag_of_Penza_Oblast_%282002-2022%29.svg/440px-Flag_of_Penza_Oblast_%282002-2022%29.svg.png


    Well, if you're going to go with mere oblasts, and outside of Europe to boot...

    The Cute Creatures Found On Russia's Weird And Wonderful Regional Flags

    Bear with me:

    https://gdb.rferl.org/6DC4ED11-DCAD-47E5-947A-FC7527C25736_w2301_s_d3.jpg
    https://gdb.rferl.org/E52D860C-B5CB-43EA-8F40-0CB865F62849_w2301_s_d3.jpg

    https://gdb.rferl.org/3B8F0A75-36A3-4D35-9141-B74BDE507A27_w2301_s_d3.jpg

  209. @Ganderson
    @Reg Cæsar

    As I’m sure you’re aware, Euro club names grew organically out of, say, the origins of the club. We have our own naming conventions here . (although that hasn’t prevented a number of stupid names from weaseling in: “The Wild “ comes to mind)

    “Loons” is not a bad moniker. I did notice that my brother and I significantly raised the average age of the crowd, and lowered the average tattoo count.

    And in Durgården (Stockholm) news, it’s Elite league hockey team, which is the Yankees to Frölunda’s (Göteborg) Red Sox, or vice versa, was relegated after a miserable season.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    We have our own naming conventions here.

    When was the last time a team was named by a grizzled sportswriter for its sock color (Cardinals, Browns, Tigers), recruiting practices (Pirates), Tammany Hall connections (Braves), or life-threatening behavior of its fans (Dodgers)? (Heck, whatever happened to grizzled sportswriters?)

    Winnipeg, Cleveland, and Washington named franchises after earlier ones that had left. Seattle won America’s first Stanley Cup, but did they think to honor this, too? No, their new squad is named for a cephalopod. A singular one. That’s a “convention” in the way that hip-hop is a “musical genre”.

    If Portland ever gets a franchise, it needs to be the Rosebuds, who went to the Cup finals the year before.

  210. @Jack P
    @Cool Daddy Jimbo

    The US women's soccer team has been led by angry feminists and had promoted left-wing causes for years. As far as I can tell there has not been loss of support. Unfortunately many suburban dads are clueless or ignorant.

    The NWSL is definitely full of LGBT etc. propaganda, disgustingly so.

    Parents should prevent their daughters from looking up to the current US women's team. In the next several years, the team looks to become somewhat blacker but maybe less lesbian.

    College women's soccer is where you can see attractive, fit middle class girls get after it.

    Replies: @cool daddy jimbo

    The US women’s soccer team has been led by angry feminists and had promoted left-wing causes for years.

    Maybe so, but in my view (generated by the occasional glance, not really a fan) the Mia Hamm era was not as openly Yay for Gay. It could very well be that I just wasn’t paying attention.

    Several months ago the pink-haired freak was discussing men in women’s sports. She opined that it was OK because “your high school volleyball team just isn’t that important.” Yes it is, honey. It’s more important than the women’s soccer league to those suburban dads in the stands.

  211. @Reg Cæsar
    @Eustace Tilley (not)



    Lambeth is a highly jigged and nigged area. Oddly the Imperial War Museum and old Bedlam is located there.

     

    Lambeth is also the location of Lambeth Palace, the official London residence of the Archbishop of Canterbury.
     
    It is famous for another controversy 92 years ago:


    Lambeth, 90 Years Later

    And so Enoch will have the last say.

     

    Well, don't dam the "river of blood"!

    Replies: @Eustace Tilley (not)

    That ecclesiastical text,
    Which left Mr. Eliot vexed,
    Was the very inception
    Of approved contraception;
    Hence the British are now oversexed.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Eustace Tilley (not)

    You've upped your game.

    Whiggledy piggledy
    Contraceptivity
    came to the Sceptered in
    '30 or so,

    thanks to the C of E's
    ecclesiastical
    fatwa, and now we can
    vo-de-oh-doh!

  212. @Eustace Tilley (not)
    @Reg Cæsar

    That ecclesiastical text,
    Which left Mr. Eliot vexed,
    Was the very inception
    Of approved contraception;
    Hence the British are now oversexed.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    You’ve upped your game.

    Whiggledy piggledy
    Contraceptivity
    came to the Sceptered in
    ’30 or so,

    thanks to the C of E’s
    ecclesiastical
    fatwa, and now we can
    vo-de-oh-doh!

  213. @BB753
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Can anybody imagine these sketches on tv now? That was less than 20 years ago.
    https://youtu.be/G5ykpBEy95I

    Replies: @BB753

    The answer lies here: Britain’s most popular pastime is transvestism.

  214. @BB753
    @Jack D

    "Whatever is causing excess mortality, it ain’t the vax. "
    Don't discard the possibility. Let's look into that.
    I know vaccine injuries are difficult to prove. That's one of the reasons big pharma CEOs aren't all in jail.

    "I really don’t want to start the Vax war again. Give it a rest. People will or won’t get the vax according to their preference. "

    Mandates anyone? Not so long ago you supported mandates.

    Replies: @Travis

    exactly…even today our armed forces mandate all enlisted troops get vaccinated with the obsolete vaccines…hundreds of colleges are mandating the vaccine and boosters….

    recall all the hype about the vaccines being 90% effective…yet no data on the booster yet…all the mice in the study contracted COVID. Despite no evidence that the boosters are effective, colleges are mandating teens to get boosted.

    These vaccines were a horrible failure. At best they offered immunity for 5 months against the original strain…today they offer zero efficacy against the current variants and may result in negative efficacy.

    • Agree: BB753
  215. @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Bucha was IMHO a Ukrainian crime
     
    The Russians said that the Nazis did the Katyn Massacre also. They were lying both times. This kind of "these are not the droids you are looking for" mind bending only works on the weak willed.

    Replies: @David In TN

    The Russians tried to make the Katyn Massacre a part of the Nuremberg indictment. The American and British judges let the Soviet judges pontificate about Katyn for a few hours before quietly dropping it, since they knew the Soviet NKVD had killed the Polish officers.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @David In TN

    When will our Rushists stop pontificating about how the Ukrainians keep massacring and bombing themselves? This makes even less sense than accusing the Nazis of killing Poles, which they did plenty, just not those particular ones.

  216. @David In TN
    @Jack D

    The Russians tried to make the Katyn Massacre a part of the Nuremberg indictment. The American and British judges let the Soviet judges pontificate about Katyn for a few hours before quietly dropping it, since they knew the Soviet NKVD had killed the Polish officers.

    Replies: @Jack D

    When will our Rushists stop pontificating about how the Ukrainians keep massacring and bombing themselves? This makes even less sense than accusing the Nazis of killing Poles, which they did plenty, just not those particular ones.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
  217. @Father Coughlin
    @Reg Cæsar

    That tiny cross doesn't have the flag of the Penza Oblast, Russia, beat for piety however.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    That tiny cross doesn’t have the flag of the Penza Oblast, Russia, beat for piety however.

    Well, if you’re going to go with mere oblasts, and outside of Europe to boot…

    The Cute Creatures Found On Russia’s Weird And Wonderful Regional Flags

    Bear with me:

  218. @Almost Missouri
    The language bubble isn't just bubbly, it also distorts language so badly that I can't parse what's going on in the original tweet:

    The Cambridge college master who called a gender-critical speaker “hateful” has written to alumni after furious donors pulled funding. Prof Rogerson refused to apologise, but said there were "difficult and complex discussions" around trans matters.
     
    Does "gender-critical" mean critical of "assigned" gender* and/or critical from the point of view of gender and therefore pro-tranny, or does it mean critical of weird gender games and therefore anti-tranny? Whatever it is, the "master" seems to be the opposite, and then the donors seem to be the opposite of that. So I'm guessing anti-, pro-, anti-? But then there are big American donor foundations that would be pro-, so maybe it's pro-, anti-, pro-.

    So confusing.

    But, as Derb said this week, "When your basic problem is reality itself, there is no solution." Or something like that.

    ---------

    *Has any tranny activist anywhere ever explained how it is that vast numbers of people are suddenly being "assigned" the wrong gender at birth? Like, if this is a real problem shouldn't we retrain all doctors so they are not misled by false flags such as penises and vaginas? Is the fear that if we sat down every practicing doctor for tranny indoctrination it would lead to professional revolt?

    Or has any tranny activist explained what it means that you are different from your body? So you are a soul, right? Kind of like in religion? Somehow they never want to address the necessary implications of their statements.

    I'd like to know the metaphysics of how all these people (souls) get stuck in the "wrong" body. That would be interesting. Is there a new Affirmative Action angel in charge of incarnation who is effing up every third birth? Seriously, how do tranny activists explain this phenomenon?

    Replies: @Carol, @SFG, @Almost Missouri

  219. @Anonymous
    @Dream

    My friend, who is an American, moved to London, and opened a small gift store in a very nice neighborhood in London. This was the late '80's, and most of the Brit’s only had abstract ideas about black people, while my friend was very knowledgeable about them, having come from America.

    So one day, two African immigrants entered the store, while yelling/singing some rap lyrics. They were the blue/black looking type with African accents. My friend, knowing what to expect since he was originally from Los Angeles, grasped the heavy, wood baseball bat he had under the cash register.

    One of them, while grinning, closed the front door, and locked it, while the other one, smiling and yelling his rap song, proceeded to walk up to my friend, still behind the counter, and high-jumped up upon the counter. At this stage, my friend, without saying a word, whipped out the baseball bat, and started beating the shit out of the black guy, as he fell backward, and off the counter.

    He saw the other black guy, wide-eyed with fear, unlock the door and run out. The other one followed, screaming like an animal, as my friend got a couple of more swings on him. He said he had to have broken some bones, as he connected pretty well a couple of times. He kept aiming to take the guy's head off, but kept missing. On his way out African thug trashed a few of my friends displays. The store was fairly trashed after all this.

    It was unusual for my friend to have been minding the counter on that day, at that time. Usually, his employee, a young girl, was working there, but had called in sick that day. He shuddered to think of what would have happened if she had been there when the African immigrants decided to rob his store, with her there alone. He also felt lucky that he knew enough about black people to have a baseball bat ready to go the moment they entered the store. It was the first and only time he’s had to use it. The Africans were quite large, and he said he wouldn’t have had a chance against them without the bat. He said a typical Brit would have not been ready with a bat. They wouldn’t have known what to do.

    Anyway, he never saw them again, and for the next few years, the experience with the Africans worried him, as he noticed more and more of them on the streets of London, many of them pulling street scams, as well as the crime increase related to them, and he went on to close his store, and sell his goods exclusively via the internet.

    The last time I visited London was in the early 2000's. My friend said that, thanks to England’s bizarre immigration policy of unchecked increase of Muslims and Africans, that version of London is gone, and it’s never coming back.

    It’s a shame that a culture with so much history, with so much blood and treasure spent during two world wars to keep it intact, is going to be eliminated within a couple of generations, as if they’d lost a war against Nigeria and Pakistan.

    The saddest fact remains… when Hitler declared war on Poland and Russia, we all should identified it as a local civil war, have stayed the fuck out of it.

    All that money spent. All those American/British dead. All those destroyed cities.

    For nothing.

    Replies: @Sam Malone

    Thanks for the anecdote. The white race deserves to die at this point.

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