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Oscar winning director Guillermo del Toro, the Person of Pallor who made a speech about art erasing “lines in the sand,” personally lives in, I believe, the idyllic suburban hills west of the San Fernando Valley. And/or he may have moved to Toronto in Canada recently. Guys at his level often have multiple homes.

But one place Guillermo del Toro definitely doesn’t live is in his native country of Mexico. Del Toro did not even visit his home country from 1998 until 2015.

When he wants to make a Spanish language movie he goes to Spain rather than home to his native Mexico.

Why does del Toro take full advantage of the line in the sand between America and Mexico?

From Uproxx:

How The World’s Biggest Director Saved Guillermo del Toro’s Dad From Kidnappers

DARIEL FIGUEROA 10.10.14

After growing up in Guadalajara, Mexico — and experimenting with Super 8 films — Guillermo del Toro immersed himself in creature and makeup creation, learning his trade from famed The Exorcist SFX artist Dick Smith. He would go on to to shoot several short films and TV episodes in his native Mexico, before beginning work on what would become one of the greatest fantasy-vampire films of all-time, Cronos, in 1993.

During pre-production on the film, in the early 90s, del Toro would meet James Cameron at a Fourth of July party. Cameron had just finished one of the most important films in his catalog, T2: Judgment Day, and the two filmmakers found kindred spirits in one another. Cameron would even let del Toro stay in his guest home for “extended periods of time”. …

For del Toro’s follow up, he would get his first crack at writing and directing an American feature film, Mimic. …

Something else troubling was happening, though, as del Toro was shooting the sci-fi horror film. His father, Federico del Toro, was kidnapped off of the streets of his Mexican hometown, Guadalajara, and held for ransom. del Toro had sunk all of his money into Mimic, and had no idea how he would get his father back home.

del Toro and his two brothers began receiving ransom notes. The three brothers would take turns speaking with the kidnappers, with del Toro taking control over the last leg of the negotiations.

“We would get ransom notes with many syntax and spelling errors. It effects you.”

Indeed.

Mexico is plagued with kidnapping; it has become an epidemic. In fact, The nonprofit Citizens’ Institute for Crime Studies estimates that there are 500 kidnappings reported per month, and that doesn’t include the ones that go unreported.

The kidnappers were asking for $1 million in order to return the elder del Toro home, unharmed. Guillermo and his family had nowhere near that kind of money, and they seemingly were running out of options. As the days in the negotiation process dragged on, the del Toro family would run through at least three negotiators, most of them specialists from England.

… When finding out about his old friend’s kidnapping ordeal, Cameron promptly shuffled del Toro into a car, and hastened him over to his bank, promptly handing over $1 million in cash. He also recommended a negotiator that would help bring Federico del Toro home in one piece.

Somehow, I’m not surprised that James Cameron can put you in touch with the world’s best ransom negotiator.

After 72 days, del Toro’s father was released without harm. In the aftermath of the kidnapping, a few men connected with the crime were arrested, but most of the criminals were able to make off with the money and no criminal repercussions.

del Toro’s family had also begun receiving death threats. In response to the threats and the kidnapping, del Toro decided to take his family to America—for good.

“Unfortunately I have to leave Mexico after the kidnapping of my father. Creatively I would be back, but as a parent I find it very difficult to return with the assurance that it will not be a problem …”

As del Toro’s decision demonstrates, it’s actually nice to have “a line in the sand” between America and Mexico …

From Film News, we learn that it took 17 years after his father’s kidnapping for del Toro to get up the confidence to visit Mexico again:

Del Toro and his family fled Mexico after the kidnapping ordeal and at one point he feared he’d never return.

In 2013, he told Nylon magazine, “All of us lived a block away from my parents, and we used to eat together three times a week. After the kidnapping, some of them (family members) went to Texas, some to another city, and I came to Los Angeles. We ended up scattered, and that pains me more than ever.

“Mexico is my home, so I miss it more than anything. If I could, I’d live there and make movies there. I can’t go back because of security.”

But he did return two years later (15), for an appearance at his hometown’s Guadalajara Film Festival, which he helped co-found 30 years ago.

During a speech at the movie event, he touched upon his fears for the safety of his fellow Mexicans, stating, “It’s like walking into a cantina with a pistol and there’s no structure in place to stop what happens next. It’s one thing to talk about a social crisis, but another to talk about absolute social decay.”

Del Toro is, I presume, an extremely sensitive person, so this must have been even more terrible for him than it would be for most people.

Interestingly, his father had built a car dealership empire after winning the national lottery. It sounds like there would be a good story in that.

Oh, a different del Toro …

Here’s the inside of Guillermo’s house in a golfy suburb of Los Angeles about 20 miles west out the Ventura Freeway:

 
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  1. As always, look at what they do, not what they say. I believe Obama lives in a 90% community. Farrakhan did as well.

    The people who peddle diversity nonsense don’t believe in it, by the admission of their own actions.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Thulean Friend

    "As always, look at what they do, not what they say."

    Here is what you and a number of people are not noticing. Wealthy white, black, Asian, and Hispanic people who got out of the slum or a bad home life or overcame some sort of adversity prefer to live in an area where they enjoy the fruits of their labor. It comes down to a matter of safety. And just because they merely do not visit the place where they came from, nor live there after achieving fame and fortune, does not mean they are not mindful of their roots, nor work in humanitarian causes.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Hibernian

    , @Father O'Hara
    @Thulean Friend

    I saw a fair amount of the show. Yes,it was full of political bullshit. Everybody complaining. There was some kind of ad for Serena Williams,where she says," I was too black for my tennis whites." Some fat lady sang a song about accepting yourself. All the females,it seemed,said stuff about how now men and women would change and women will rise and "New challenges ahead."
    Host Jimmy Kimmel was perfectly behaved. He did start the show with a fun joke: The Oscar is a perfect man,says he,because he can't talk,has no hands and...no penis. A joke like that could be a little bit "subversive" of PC,but Jimmy was totally sincere. He forgot to add that Oscar was a person of color!

    Near the end France's McDormand won,and made a nasty little speech. Kimmel immediately kissed her ass,saying she should win an Emmy. Guy is a poodle!

    Thanks to Dear Leader for writing about this Del Toro schmuck. I knew nothing about him. Reading this stuff puts Sean Penn's previous Oscar joke,that Del Toro is an illegal, in a funnier light. Yeah,Billy,ya gotta go back!

    (And I bet Cameron cut back on his Hispanic outreach stuff after that! "Ill just stick to lionizing these imaginary people of color,from a different planet. And chase young bitches!")

    , @anonymous
    @Thulean Friend

    "Do as I say--not as I do."

  2. I don’t know how credible the story behind “On the Wings of Eagles” is, but the idea of Ross Perot going straight to his wall safe, upon hearing about the situation of his employees in Iran, and filling a bag with money to hire a bunch of mercenaries to free them always appealed to me.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @songbird

    I read the book, what a man, a real man.

  3. “It’s actually kind of nice to have “a line in the sand” between America and Mexico”

    Are there any rich countries with a 5:1 ratio in murder rates between neighboring regions? Or is such a stark difference impossible without an international border?

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Vinay


    Are there any rich countries with a 5:1 ratio in murder rates between neighboring regions?

     

    Illinois? Maryland? etc.
    , @anon
    @Vinay


    Are there any rich countries with a 5:1 ratio in murder rates between neighboring regions?
     
    Check out Canada's Nunavut territory versus the provinces to the South, such as Quebec. The ratio is something like 6:1. Special circumstances though, with a vast, sparsely populated indigenous-majority territory.
  4. He just encouraged the feral from outside the US to kick down the door and come in. During his ‘speech’.

    That was a really target rich environment….

  5. del Toro’s family had also begun receiving death threats.

    I’m tempted to make a few threats of my own to whoever begins sentences– a paragraph in this case– with lower-case letters. Write English, not Arabic!

    Perhaps Helmet of Bull himself could send Uproxx a correction?

  6. I thought GDT lived in Toronto. Apparently, he divides his time between there and California.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Thursday


    I thought GDT lived in Toronto. Apparently, he divides his time between there and California.
     
    He shoots a lot of his pictures in Ontario: Crimson Peak, Mimic, Pacific Rim, The Shape of Water.

    Dunno if he actually maintains a house there.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute

    , @syonredux
    @Thursday

    On the other hand, The Shape of Water's producer says that he lives in Toronto:


    Why has Toronto become del Toro’s filmmaking base?


    Ever since he did Pacific Rim, Guillermo has been here. He lives here and his family lives here.
     
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/why-shape-water-director-guillermo-del-toro-loves-shooting-canada-1082001

    So, maybe he does go back-and-forth between CA and Ontario.
    , @syonredux
    @Thursday

    This article says that he goes back-and-forth:


    Del Toro, who divides his time between Toronto and Los Angeles, runs a studio out of three adjacent apartments in the east end of Toronto.
     
    http://thechronicleherald.ca/artslife/1506569-guillermo-del-toro-talks-up-toronto-as-a-special-place-to-make-movies
  7. most of the criminals were able to make off with the money and no criminal repercussions.

    They finally had enough to live in the USA in style.
    Like Señor del Toro, coincidentally enough.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Anonymous


    They finally had enough to live in the USA in style.

     

    Another Miami condo, lol.
  8. I bet Cameron doesn’t appreciate the world’s being told that he’s the bank for any of his friends and acquaintances and their families if anyone gets kidnapped.

    If I were a friend of Cameron’s, I’d keep it a secret if it weren’t already out there.

  9. Everyday Steve Sailer is becoming more like his favorite politician: Trump, a rambling insane person. This time a meltdown over a Mexican guy winning best director.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Cpluskx

    He's onto something with the e-psychiatry of Del Toro's blubbery, shy personality. I remember first watching El Director Visionario muse-mumbling about something -- probably giant rock-em-sock-em robots, more likely than not -- and being struck by his roly-poly nebbishitude. I remember thinking, "This guy must have been beat up every day [probably by future golf-loving Mexican citizenists at that] if coming up in the machismo-soaked culture of Latin America"-- but aha, now all has been made clear...

    Replies: @Stan d Mute

    , @Percy Gryce
    @Cpluskx

    Is it a meltdown to point out the hypocrisy of someone just honored with the highest awards in the entertainment industry?

    , @grapesoda
    @Cpluskx

    Ha ha do you have any education at all? You didn't understand anything about Steve's post other than DURR DURR you criticized a Mexican yurr racist DURR.

    You literally have an IQ of 80. Thanks for giving us a good laugh by showing us how stupid you are.

    Racist sexist homophobe, racist sexist homophobe... That's all these leftists know how to talk about. They have no classical education whatsoever.

    , @SteveRogers42
    @Cpluskx

    Heywood Jablome.

  10. Guy who fled a country because it was a shithole makes movie about how shitty the country he fled *to* is, wins Oscar.

    I have never been so grateful for DVR. I recorded it in hope that I’d get to watch a Best Picture and/or Best Director speech for Dunkirk. Now I can just delete the entire thing. It was on somewhere in the background and I did get to hear not one but two political speeches (or was it three or four?) on behalf of the Oscar winners for a f—ing cartoon (Coco). The entire show (until we turned it off) seemed overrun with politics, with one very lame, ever so brief nod to our men in uniform (and that, of course, introduced by a man of diversitude).

    I had intended to see several of the movies nominated, including the “diverse” ones. I escaped from the broadcast resolved to not see a single damn one of them. Life is just too damn short.

  11. @Thursday
    I thought GDT lived in Toronto. Apparently, he divides his time between there and California.

    Replies: @syonredux, @syonredux, @syonredux

    I thought GDT lived in Toronto. Apparently, he divides his time between there and California.

    He shoots a lot of his pictures in Ontario: Crimson Peak, Mimic, Pacific Rim, The Shape of Water.

    Dunno if he actually maintains a house there.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    @syonredux


    He shoots a lot of his pictures in Ontario: Crimson Peak, Mimic, Pacific Rim, The Shape of Water.

    Dunno if he actually maintains a house there.

     

    Why wouldn’t he? Michael Bay for years had a home in Miami and filmed “Bad Boys” + “Pain and Gain” there. And did much of “Transformers” in FL’s sister Peninsula State. Here’s Bay at his Miami Beach home proving he at least has great taste in dogs:

    http://buzzsharer.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Michael-Bay-with-mastiffs1.jpg

    Dwayne Johnson lives in Broward County and films his HBO series “Ballers” locally (plus acting in Bay’s “Pain”) etc.
  12. That’s right, bigots. A Man of Color won best director:

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @syonredux

    Del Toro is WOKE AF:


    The Pale Man represents all institutional evil feeding on the helpless. It's not accidental that he is a) Pale b) a Man. He's thriving now.

     

    https://twitter.com/realgdt/status/827065272028766208

    Replies: @Anonym, @Anonym, @AndrewR

    , @Hibernian
    @syonredux

    Could he be related to the Romneys?

  13. @syonredux
    That's right, bigots. A Man of Color won best director:


    http://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/guillermo-del-toro.jpg

    Replies: @syonredux, @Hibernian

    Del Toro is WOKE AF:

    The Pale Man represents all institutional evil feeding on the helpless. It’s not accidental that he is a) Pale b) a Man. He’s thriving now.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @syonredux

    It's not accidental that I haven't paid to see a movie in a long time either.

    , @Anonym
    @syonredux

    In a 2007 interview, del Toro described his political position as "a little too liberal." He pointed out that the villains in most of his films, such as the industrialist in Cronos, the Nazis in Hellboy, and the Francoists in Pan's Labyrinth, are united by the common attribute of authoritarianism.

    Two out of those three villains are nationalists who are white. I haven't seen Cronos.

    His Dad got kidnapped in 1997. He was indebted to James Cameron, I presume, and maybe to Hollywood. He needed money. One thing seems for sure, since say, the 1980s at least. If you want to get your movies greenlighted in Hollywood, you will never go broke by making as villains in movies any form of white, nationalistic type people and organizations. But maybe del Toro is just a fat self-hating Conquistador American. There are plenty of baby boomer types like del Toro.

    The whole Academy awards are something of a blackpill. Del Toro himself, his past movies, the current Swamp Fever movie, his speech, Jimmy Kimmel, everything else. It's a bit like Prince Harry getting engaged to Meghan Markle, except more predictable. Hopefully Prince William can have a few more spares just in case.

    , @AndrewR
    @syonredux

    What a disgusting human being he is.

  14. Dude looks whiter than me and I’m 98% Northwestern European according to Susan Wojcicki’s sister.

  15. Interesting piece on Del Toro:

    A thin, almost albino boy, he was frequently bullied in his early years. “I was white-blond when I was a kid,” he notes.” I had a lot of fistfights and I couldn’t hold my own, because I was so thin. So I started putting on weight, and I got better at fighting, and I kept [putting on] weight.” He also became obsessed with illness and calls himself the world’s youngest hypochondriac, a result of reading his father’s health encyclopedia from cover to cover. (That, along with his father’s art encyclopedia, dominated his reading.) “I could tell I had terminal cancer at age 7,” he says. “I could tell I had trichinosis, I could tell I had cirrhosis, I could tell I had septicemia. And I could very articulately go to my mother and say, ‘I’m dying.’ “

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/guillermo-del-toro-confronting-childhood-demons-surviving-a-real-life-horror-story-1053205

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @syonredux


    Del Toro became more popular as he grew older ("I was really very funny," he says. "I painted, I sang"), but his weight turned into an issue and remains so to this day, perhaps because it's closely connected to self-defense. "I started gaining weight in third grade, so from third grade on, at least, I held my own," he explains. Did the weight bother him? "Yes. I was thinking, 'I don't follow normal patterns.' I was very concerned with normalcy."
     

    His parents were equally concerned. When they saw their son's grades rise and plummet without apparent logic, they decided he should see a therapist; and so, at 13 years old, Guillermo started counseling, at an age and in a place where it was anything but common. His grades improved, but whether the therapy — which he's continued at various times since — helped solve his deepest issues, he can't say. "I don't know," he shrugs, and laughs. "If we could resolve it, now I would be 100 pounds less."
     
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/guillermo-del-toro-confronting-childhood-demons-surviving-a-real-life-horror-story-1053205
    , @kihowi
    @syonredux

    I guess what that shows is that the bullied aren't better people than their bullies, just weaker. You'd think he'd be effusively grateful to arrive in a place where nobody bullies him and he's the cool kid.

    As usual, people fighting against oppression don't want equality, they want to switch places.

    , @BB753
    @syonredux

    Let me get this, he got better at fighting by getting fatter, like a sumo fighter?

    Replies: @Anonym, @MontanaOsprey

  16. @syonredux
    Interesting piece on Del Toro:

    A thin, almost albino boy, he was frequently bullied in his early years. "I was white-blond when I was a kid," he notes." I had a lot of fistfights and I couldn't hold my own, because I was so thin. So I started putting on weight, and I got better at fighting, and I kept [putting on] weight." He also became obsessed with illness and calls himself the world's youngest hypochondriac, a result of reading his father's health encyclopedia from cover to cover. (That, along with his father's art encyclopedia, dominated his reading.) "I could tell I had terminal cancer at age 7," he says. "I could tell I had trichinosis, I could tell I had cirrhosis, I could tell I had septicemia. And I could very articulately go to my mother and say, 'I'm dying.' "
     
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/guillermo-del-toro-confronting-childhood-demons-surviving-a-real-life-horror-story-1053205

    Replies: @syonredux, @kihowi, @BB753

    Del Toro became more popular as he grew older (“I was really very funny,” he says. “I painted, I sang”), but his weight turned into an issue and remains so to this day, perhaps because it’s closely connected to self-defense. “I started gaining weight in third grade, so from third grade on, at least, I held my own,” he explains. Did the weight bother him? “Yes. I was thinking, ‘I don’t follow normal patterns.’ I was very concerned with normalcy.”

    His parents were equally concerned. When they saw their son’s grades rise and plummet without apparent logic, they decided he should see a therapist; and so, at 13 years old, Guillermo started counseling, at an age and in a place where it was anything but common. His grades improved, but whether the therapy — which he’s continued at various times since — helped solve his deepest issues, he can’t say. “I don’t know,” he shrugs, and laughs. “If we could resolve it, now I would be 100 pounds less.”

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/guillermo-del-toro-confronting-childhood-demons-surviving-a-real-life-horror-story-1053205

  17. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Cpluskx
    Everyday Steve Sailer is becoming more like his favorite politician: Trump, a rambling insane person. This time a meltdown over a Mexican guy winning best director.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Percy Gryce, @grapesoda, @SteveRogers42

    He’s onto something with the e-psychiatry of Del Toro’s blubbery, shy personality. I remember first watching El Director Visionario muse-mumbling about something — probably giant rock-em-sock-em robots, more likely than not — and being struck by his roly-poly nebbishitude. I remember thinking, “This guy must have been beat up every day [probably by future golf-loving Mexican citizenists at that] if coming up in the machismo-soaked culture of Latin America”– but aha, now all has been made clear…

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    @Anonymous


    This guy must have been beat up every day
     
    Is this not the origin story of all neckbeards?

    Replies: @Abe

  18. @Thursday
    I thought GDT lived in Toronto. Apparently, he divides his time between there and California.

    Replies: @syonredux, @syonredux, @syonredux

    On the other hand, The Shape of Water‘s producer says that he lives in Toronto:

    Why has Toronto become del Toro’s filmmaking base?


    Ever since he did Pacific Rim, Guillermo has been here. He lives here and his family lives here.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/why-shape-water-director-guillermo-del-toro-loves-shooting-canada-1082001

    So, maybe he does go back-and-forth between CA and Ontario.

  19. @Thursday
    I thought GDT lived in Toronto. Apparently, he divides his time between there and California.

    Replies: @syonredux, @syonredux, @syonredux

    This article says that he goes back-and-forth:

    Del Toro, who divides his time between Toronto and Los Angeles, runs a studio out of three adjacent apartments in the east end of Toronto.

    http://thechronicleherald.ca/artslife/1506569-guillermo-del-toro-talks-up-toronto-as-a-special-place-to-make-movies

  20. He pushes for open borders, despite all he knows.

    These Clever Rats are not going to be our saviors. If these rats make up our “elite” class, we are over as a country.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Anonymous

    "These Clever Rats are not going to be our saviors. If these rats make up our “elite” class, we are over as a country."

    So if that be the case, what are you doing other than commenting on a blog to make sure these "clever rats" drown? I get it, you are upset and so you blow off steam through the written word. Thankfully, you lack the inner Anglo-Saxon hate to do anything about it illegally. You are just not wired that way...

  21. @syonredux
    @syonredux

    Del Toro is WOKE AF:


    The Pale Man represents all institutional evil feeding on the helpless. It's not accidental that he is a) Pale b) a Man. He's thriving now.

     

    https://twitter.com/realgdt/status/827065272028766208

    Replies: @Anonym, @Anonym, @AndrewR

    It’s not accidental that I haven’t paid to see a movie in a long time either.

  22. I haven’t seen anyone make the connection between The Shape of Water and Amphibian Man, which was a Soviet-era film about a surgically-altered man who lives underwater, and his Romeo and Juliet thwarted romance with a pearl fisher’s daughter. Here the enemy is pearl-fishing capitalist greed, not cisgendered white men.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibian_Man_(film)

    • Replies: @Jake
    @Hhsiii

    Cultural Marxism produced the del Toro film, while classical Marxism produced the Soviet film.

  23. Give him an enema and he could live in a shoebox.

  24. Del Toro is a typical Liberal Mexican who is virtually all white. He is as hypocritical as any rich Boston Brahmin.

    Mexico, having been seduced by WASP culture, without which there would have been no successful Mexican Revolution (and no PRI and no PAN), has been since the beginning of the 19th century, in a state of periodic bouts violence that are drugging the nation back into the horrors of Aztec rule, of Meso-AmerIndian paganism.

    Del Toro, like any pure WASP Liberal, is driven from deep inside himself to keep that revolution going, even when he flees its real world effects. The drive is to destroy whatever remains of Christendom.

    It is suicidal.

  25. @Hhsiii
    I haven’t seen anyone make the connection between The Shape of Water and Amphibian Man, which was a Soviet-era film about a surgically-altered man who lives underwater, and his Romeo and Juliet thwarted romance with a pearl fisher’s daughter. Here the enemy is pearl-fishing capitalist greed, not cisgendered white men.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibian_Man_(film)

    Replies: @Jake

    Cultural Marxism produced the del Toro film, while classical Marxism produced the Soviet film.

  26. @Cpluskx
    Everyday Steve Sailer is becoming more like his favorite politician: Trump, a rambling insane person. This time a meltdown over a Mexican guy winning best director.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Percy Gryce, @grapesoda, @SteveRogers42

    Is it a meltdown to point out the hypocrisy of someone just honored with the highest awards in the entertainment industry?

  27. @syonredux
    @syonredux

    Del Toro is WOKE AF:


    The Pale Man represents all institutional evil feeding on the helpless. It's not accidental that he is a) Pale b) a Man. He's thriving now.

     

    https://twitter.com/realgdt/status/827065272028766208

    Replies: @Anonym, @Anonym, @AndrewR

    In a 2007 interview, del Toro described his political position as “a little too liberal.” He pointed out that the villains in most of his films, such as the industrialist in Cronos, the Nazis in Hellboy, and the Francoists in Pan’s Labyrinth, are united by the common attribute of authoritarianism.

    Two out of those three villains are nationalists who are white. I haven’t seen Cronos.

    His Dad got kidnapped in 1997. He was indebted to James Cameron, I presume, and maybe to Hollywood. He needed money. One thing seems for sure, since say, the 1980s at least. If you want to get your movies greenlighted in Hollywood, you will never go broke by making as villains in movies any form of white, nationalistic type people and organizations. But maybe del Toro is just a fat self-hating Conquistador American. There are plenty of baby boomer types like del Toro.

    The whole Academy awards are something of a blackpill. Del Toro himself, his past movies, the current Swamp Fever movie, his speech, Jimmy Kimmel, everything else. It’s a bit like Prince Harry getting engaged to Meghan Markle, except more predictable. Hopefully Prince William can have a few more spares just in case.

  28. @Vinay
    “It’s actually kind of nice to have “a line in the sand” between America and Mexico”

    Are there any rich countries with a 5:1 ratio in murder rates between neighboring regions? Or is such a stark difference impossible without an international border?

    Replies: @Pericles, @anon

    Are there any rich countries with a 5:1 ratio in murder rates between neighboring regions?

    Illinois? Maryland? etc.

  29. @Anonymous

    most of the criminals were able to make off with the money and no criminal repercussions.
     
    They finally had enough to live in the USA in style.
    Like Señor del Toro, coincidentally enough.

    Replies: @Pericles

    They finally had enough to live in the USA in style.

    Another Miami condo, lol.

  30. Spanish title: Amphibianos Amores.

  31. Oh yes, and we have to give the best actor award for the portrayal of Churchill. But it wasn’t Britain’s darkest hour. It is dark now and getting progressively darker.

  32. I don’t go to movies. I drop $20 at the local sinagogue most months. Same thing.

  33. Men like Guillermo Del Toro are a very strong argument against high skill migration. I generally used to support high skill migration. But look at what Mr Del Toro does. He & his family escape a crime ridden country. They come into a country of opportunity where he can achieve his artistic ambitions.

    And what does he do? He portrays his host country & culture as irredeemably evil in his art and in his speeches. Talk about ingratitude and biting the hand that feeds you.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @rogue-one

    @ And what does he do? He portrays his host country & culture as irredeemably evil in his art and in his speeches. Talk about ingratitude and biting the hand that feeds you.

    Not that I disagree about the ingratitude/hypocrisy, but he went to Hollywood because Hollywood is as demented and twisted as he is. Like attracts like. One more Hollywood type that's suicidal, in all likelihood.

  34. @syonredux
    Interesting piece on Del Toro:

    A thin, almost albino boy, he was frequently bullied in his early years. "I was white-blond when I was a kid," he notes." I had a lot of fistfights and I couldn't hold my own, because I was so thin. So I started putting on weight, and I got better at fighting, and I kept [putting on] weight." He also became obsessed with illness and calls himself the world's youngest hypochondriac, a result of reading his father's health encyclopedia from cover to cover. (That, along with his father's art encyclopedia, dominated his reading.) "I could tell I had terminal cancer at age 7," he says. "I could tell I had trichinosis, I could tell I had cirrhosis, I could tell I had septicemia. And I could very articulately go to my mother and say, 'I'm dying.' "
     
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/guillermo-del-toro-confronting-childhood-demons-surviving-a-real-life-horror-story-1053205

    Replies: @syonredux, @kihowi, @BB753

    I guess what that shows is that the bullied aren’t better people than their bullies, just weaker. You’d think he’d be effusively grateful to arrive in a place where nobody bullies him and he’s the cool kid.

    As usual, people fighting against oppression don’t want equality, they want to switch places.

    • Agree: Autochthon
  35. @syonredux
    Interesting piece on Del Toro:

    A thin, almost albino boy, he was frequently bullied in his early years. "I was white-blond when I was a kid," he notes." I had a lot of fistfights and I couldn't hold my own, because I was so thin. So I started putting on weight, and I got better at fighting, and I kept [putting on] weight." He also became obsessed with illness and calls himself the world's youngest hypochondriac, a result of reading his father's health encyclopedia from cover to cover. (That, along with his father's art encyclopedia, dominated his reading.) "I could tell I had terminal cancer at age 7," he says. "I could tell I had trichinosis, I could tell I had cirrhosis, I could tell I had septicemia. And I could very articulately go to my mother and say, 'I'm dying.' "
     
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/guillermo-del-toro-confronting-childhood-demons-surviving-a-real-life-horror-story-1053205

    Replies: @syonredux, @kihowi, @BB753

    Let me get this, he got better at fighting by getting fatter, like a sumo fighter?

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @BB753

    Let me get this, he got better at fighting by getting fatter, like a sumo fighter?

    About the only people generally as dishonest about their addictions as pot smokers ("It's only psychologically addictive, maybe, but I can stop whenever I want to!") are fat people. "It's glandular!" How many do you hear say "Yeah, I'm a fat lard bucket because I just can't put down the ice cream, the soft drink, the chocolate, and the fast food."

    , @MontanaOsprey
    @BB753

    He’s gotta be within 100 pounds of his probable hero, Michael Moore!

  36. @Thulean Friend
    As always, look at what they do, not what they say. I believe Obama lives in a 90% community. Farrakhan did as well.

    The people who peddle diversity nonsense don't believe in it, by the admission of their own actions.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Father O'Hara, @anonymous

    “As always, look at what they do, not what they say.”

    Here is what you and a number of people are not noticing. Wealthy white, black, Asian, and Hispanic people who got out of the slum or a bad home life or overcame some sort of adversity prefer to live in an area where they enjoy the fruits of their labor. It comes down to a matter of safety. And just because they merely do not visit the place where they came from, nor live there after achieving fame and fortune, does not mean they are not mindful of their roots, nor work in humanitarian causes.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Corvinus


    Wealthy white, black, Asian, and Hispanic people who got out of the slum or a bad home life or overcame some sort of adversity prefer to live in an area where they enjoy the fruits of their labor.
     
    Which, for Blacks and Latinx, means living around White Anglos....

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Hibernian
    @Corvinus

    Sort of like white liberals.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  37. “I hope the have kidnapping insurance.” – Donald Trump, on a decision by scum like del Toro to move some golfing event or other to Mexico

  38. @Anonymous
    He pushes for open borders, despite all he knows.

    These Clever Rats are not going to be our saviors. If these rats make up our "elite" class, we are over as a country.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “These Clever Rats are not going to be our saviors. If these rats make up our “elite” class, we are over as a country.”

    So if that be the case, what are you doing other than commenting on a blog to make sure these “clever rats” drown? I get it, you are upset and so you blow off steam through the written word. Thankfully, you lack the inner Anglo-Saxon hate to do anything about it illegally. You are just not wired that way…

  39. most of them specialists from England

    How come? Does this reveal something bigger that nobody has thought about? Who is really behind narco gangs in Mexico?

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @utu


    the del Toro family would run through at least three negotiators, most of them specialists from England.

     


    most of them specialists from England

    How come?
     
    At a guess, experience derived from the "Troubles" in Northern Ireland.

    Does this reveal something bigger that nobody has thought about?
     
    Probably not.

    Who is really behind narco gangs in Mexico
     
    The Irish?

    Replies: @utu

  40. @Vinay
    “It’s actually kind of nice to have “a line in the sand” between America and Mexico”

    Are there any rich countries with a 5:1 ratio in murder rates between neighboring regions? Or is such a stark difference impossible without an international border?

    Replies: @Pericles, @anon

    Are there any rich countries with a 5:1 ratio in murder rates between neighboring regions?

    Check out Canada’s Nunavut territory versus the provinces to the South, such as Quebec. The ratio is something like 6:1. Special circumstances though, with a vast, sparsely populated indigenous-majority territory.

  41. @Cpluskx
    Everyday Steve Sailer is becoming more like his favorite politician: Trump, a rambling insane person. This time a meltdown over a Mexican guy winning best director.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Percy Gryce, @grapesoda, @SteveRogers42

    Ha ha do you have any education at all? You didn’t understand anything about Steve’s post other than DURR DURR you criticized a Mexican yurr racist DURR.

    You literally have an IQ of 80. Thanks for giving us a good laugh by showing us how stupid you are.

    Racist sexist homophobe, racist sexist homophobe… That’s all these leftists know how to talk about. They have no classical education whatsoever.

  42. Guillermo del Toro should look into doing a remake of Man on Fire about his dad’s story.

    Having relatives back home kidnapped has been a big problem for baseball players from Venezuela, but I don’t think it has happened much to players from other Latin American countries.

    • Replies: @Triumph104
    @Barnard

    In 2004 and 2005, the family members of several Brazilian soccer players who played for Brazilian teams were kidnapped.


    On 6 November 2004 Marina da Silva Souza, mother of Brazilian football's brightest young hope Robinho, was abducted.

    The kidnapper's first demand was that Robinho stop playing football - a psychological ploy to show that they were in control.

    Next they sent him a video tape of his mother in captivity, in which the kidnappers could be seen cutting off her hair. ...

    After 41 days, Robinho agreed to pay a ransom of $75,000 (£43,000) for the release of his mother.

    But this was just the first of five footballers' mothers to be kidnapped over a period of only five months.

    The second woman to be targeted was the mother of the Sao Paulo striker Grafite.

    During the kidnapping at the family home, Grafite's father was tied up and gagged. ...

    "Sadly in Brazil, everything that's bad becomes a fashion. Brazilians are like that. First it was kidnapping businessmen, then their wives and children and now they see an easy target in footballers."

    In September 2005, Robinho left Brazil for Real Madrid in Spain and took his family with him.

    The threat of kidnapping was a major factor in his decision. ...

    The first prison wing exclusively for kidnappers is also being constructed, in the hope that isolating them will stop other inmates learning the latest trends.
     
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/this_world/4898554.stm

    Manda Bala (Send a Bullet) (2007) is a good documentary about kidnapping and other crimes in Brazil. I believe the film was banned in Brazil.
  43. Mexico: It’s a nice place to live, as long as you don’t live there.

  44. Our Ann gets the Tweeter impressions flowing for Sailer:

  45. @Thulean Friend
    As always, look at what they do, not what they say. I believe Obama lives in a 90% community. Farrakhan did as well.

    The people who peddle diversity nonsense don't believe in it, by the admission of their own actions.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Father O'Hara, @anonymous

    I saw a fair amount of the show. Yes,it was full of political bullshit. Everybody complaining. There was some kind of ad for Serena Williams,where she says,” I was too black for my tennis whites.” Some fat lady sang a song about accepting yourself. All the females,it seemed,said stuff about how now men and women would change and women will rise and “New challenges ahead.”
    Host Jimmy Kimmel was perfectly behaved. He did start the show with a fun joke: The Oscar is a perfect man,says he,because he can’t talk,has no hands and…no penis. A joke like that could be a little bit “subversive” of PC,but Jimmy was totally sincere. He forgot to add that Oscar was a person of color!

    Near the end France’s McDormand won,and made a nasty little speech. Kimmel immediately kissed her ass,saying she should win an Emmy. Guy is a poodle!

    Thanks to Dear Leader for writing about this Del Toro schmuck. I knew nothing about him. Reading this stuff puts Sean Penn’s previous Oscar joke,that Del Toro is an illegal, in a funnier light. Yeah,Billy,ya gotta go back!

    (And I bet Cameron cut back on his Hispanic outreach stuff after that! “Ill just stick to lionizing these imaginary people of color,from a different planet. And chase young bitches!”)

  46. Can I add one thing? Was anyone struck by how thick was Selma Hayek’s…accent. Seriously,after all these years can’t she learn to speak the Kings English without sounding like her mouth is full of refried beans?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Father O'Hara

    She probably could, and I would not be surprised if she can - thespians are good at that - but it might be less profitable. Like most women who use their sex appeal to go to the very top, she's actually using her wit to do the heavy lifting.

  47. @Thulean Friend
    As always, look at what they do, not what they say. I believe Obama lives in a 90% community. Farrakhan did as well.

    The people who peddle diversity nonsense don't believe in it, by the admission of their own actions.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Father O'Hara, @anonymous

    “Do as I say–not as I do.”

  48. ““We would get ransom notes with many syntax and spelling errors. It effects you.” ”

    Shouldn’t that be “affects”?

  49. Open borders White Hispanic is hypocritical pussy! We all know this. The surprise would be if he was a Conservative.

  50. Steve-O, you’re going to piss your boss off!

  51. I don’t know, most movies Steve has been writing about in past 5+ years I haven’t seen- and what I saw is boring, dull, absurd…

    Especially variations on superhero theme (laughable & boring) or cartoonish fantasies on human/non-human interaction (Avatar, The Shape of Water).

    Terra Boredomia Maxima Infantilia.

  52. Never visited Mexico? De Toro seems like someone who would want to see bullfights.

  53. I’m still rather amazed they can pull off a WGC golf event in suburban Mexico City. That’s a lot of multi-millionaires on one patch of grass–surely a tempting target for enterprising kidnappers. All of the TV coverage made Mexico out to be an idyllic paradise with lush fairways and amazing Mayan ruins but no one dared mention the security measures in place. How many federales with submachine guns were posted around the course? And why do so many big name golfers like Jason Day and Rory McIlroy (not to mention NBC’s Johnny Miller) suddenly misplace their passports when the tour goes to Mexico?

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Bragadocious

    I'm guessing most of the players left their families at home. The pattern for kidnappers seems to be to go after family members rather than the wealthy/famous person. The cartel types might even be smart enough to understand kidnapping a pro golfer in Mexico with a golf loving President of the United States already hostile to them might not be a good long term strategy.

  54. @syonredux
    @syonredux

    Del Toro is WOKE AF:


    The Pale Man represents all institutional evil feeding on the helpless. It's not accidental that he is a) Pale b) a Man. He's thriving now.

     

    https://twitter.com/realgdt/status/827065272028766208

    Replies: @Anonym, @Anonym, @AndrewR

    What a disgusting human being he is.

  55. @syonredux
    @Thursday


    I thought GDT lived in Toronto. Apparently, he divides his time between there and California.
     
    He shoots a lot of his pictures in Ontario: Crimson Peak, Mimic, Pacific Rim, The Shape of Water.

    Dunno if he actually maintains a house there.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute

    He shoots a lot of his pictures in Ontario: Crimson Peak, Mimic, Pacific Rim, The Shape of Water.

    Dunno if he actually maintains a house there.

    Why wouldn’t he? Michael Bay for years had a home in Miami and filmed “Bad Boys” + “Pain and Gain” there. And did much of “Transformers” in FL’s sister Peninsula State. Here’s Bay at his Miami Beach home proving he at least has great taste in dogs:

    Dwayne Johnson lives in Broward County and films his HBO series “Ballers” locally (plus acting in Bay’s “Pain”) etc.

  56. @Anonymous
    @Cpluskx

    He's onto something with the e-psychiatry of Del Toro's blubbery, shy personality. I remember first watching El Director Visionario muse-mumbling about something -- probably giant rock-em-sock-em robots, more likely than not -- and being struck by his roly-poly nebbishitude. I remember thinking, "This guy must have been beat up every day [probably by future golf-loving Mexican citizenists at that] if coming up in the machismo-soaked culture of Latin America"-- but aha, now all has been made clear...

    Replies: @Stan d Mute

    This guy must have been beat up every day

    Is this not the origin story of all neckbeards?

    • Replies: @Abe
    @Stan d Mute



    This guy must have been beat up every day
     
    Is this not the origin story of all neckbeards?
     
    We live in a cowardocracy. Green eyeshade coward billionaires like Bezos, Gates, Buffet, tow the PC line despite having the money (10,000 times over) not to give a [email protected] and start telling the truth. Best they can do is ‘insulate, insulate, insulate’ so that it is the small-fries beneath them who have to tearfully apologize for saying something deplorable that was perfectly OK last week.

    The sad thing is how even nerds, who you’d think would have some sort of solidarity given how much the rest of society disrespects them, turning on each other. Video game nerds exploiting other video game nerds in Gamer Gate. Big ol’ black comics nerd Ta Genius Coates getting Jewish comic book nerd Michael Chabon to lick his shoe-tops. And now Del Torro, like fellow Latinx nerd Junior Diaz (ahem) throwing his weight around to bully white nerds on behalf of the people who terrorized him as a fat, awkward kid.

  57. What does this say about Mexico? It’s one thing to try to explain that only the impoverished flee to the USA. But for a well-off guy like this to have to leave is says a lot.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @istevefan

    This has been a major feature of Mexico for some time: there is no order, at all, for everyone. Almost all Spanish-speaking countries are dysfunctional hellholes, but there is a kind of order. After you pay taxes to the government you pay taxes to the FARC or whatever and that way nobody in your family gets kidnapped. Not Mexico. Too many independent operators. Before the drug war and the advent of modern cinematic fantasists, the big story was universal kidnapping, and one of the major films exported to the art house circuit was about a successful white collar guy in Mexico City getting kidnapped, emphasizing that there is no "white town." Or: before Mexican Oscar winners whined about Trump presuming to criticize their country, they whined about how messed up their country was.

    Replies: @istevefan

  58. Abe says: • Website

    Steve uses ‘NWA’ as a sort of synecdoche (and, yes, I’m a synec-douchebag for using a word like ‘synecdoche‘ instead of something less fancy like ‘emblem’) for the early-90’s era of Peak US crime, whose soundtrack in a lot of memories is the beats of West Coast gangster rap. Yet listening to a NWA album recently, I was struck by how often they’d throw around ‘loc’ (as in ‘loco’) as a signifier of deep respect for one another, almost as much as they liked using the all-purpose ‘gangsta’.

    If you were around in in 1990 or ‘91, there was no way you saw the miraculous, sustained drop in crime that was just around the corner. Instead, things were probably going to get worse, much worse, as in Latin American levels of narco-terror where police helicopters get shot out of the sky with shoulder-fired missiles, Federal judges assassinated, active duty POLICEMEN enrolled in identity protection programs like they already are in Mexico, etc, etc. Another pop-cultural by-product of that era are the various Steven Seagal action movies, several of which have the plot-point of gang assassins showing up at his home to murder him and his entire family.

    As much as we complain about black dysfunction and crime, which makes trips to almost any city center a difficult and unpleasant experience, at least we’re not Mexico (yet). At least we’re not Guatemala. Organized crime which can show up at any moment even in your leafy, comfortable neighborhood (as compared to black crime which won’t even leave its projects when stirred to mass riot) takes nastiness and social insecurity to excruciating new levels. Count our little blessings for now, I guess…

  59. Abe says: • Website
    @Stan d Mute
    @Anonymous


    This guy must have been beat up every day
     
    Is this not the origin story of all neckbeards?

    Replies: @Abe

    This guy must have been beat up every day

    Is this not the origin story of all neckbeards?

    We live in a cowardocracy. Green eyeshade coward billionaires like Bezos, Gates, Buffet, tow the PC line despite having the money (10,000 times over) not to give a [email protected] and start telling the truth. Best they can do is ‘insulate, insulate, insulate’ so that it is the small-fries beneath them who have to tearfully apologize for saying something deplorable that was perfectly OK last week.

    The sad thing is how even nerds, who you’d think would have some sort of solidarity given how much the rest of society disrespects them, turning on each other. Video game nerds exploiting other video game nerds in Gamer Gate. Big ol’ black comics nerd Ta Genius Coates getting Jewish comic book nerd Michael Chabon to lick his shoe-tops. And now Del Torro, like fellow Latinx nerd Junior Diaz (ahem) throwing his weight around to bully white nerds on behalf of the people who terrorized him as a fat, awkward kid.

  60. @istevefan
    What does this say about Mexico? It's one thing to try to explain that only the impoverished flee to the USA. But for a well-off guy like this to have to leave is says a lot.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    This has been a major feature of Mexico for some time: there is no order, at all, for everyone. Almost all Spanish-speaking countries are dysfunctional hellholes, but there is a kind of order. After you pay taxes to the government you pay taxes to the FARC or whatever and that way nobody in your family gets kidnapped. Not Mexico. Too many independent operators. Before the drug war and the advent of modern cinematic fantasists, the big story was universal kidnapping, and one of the major films exported to the art house circuit was about a successful white collar guy in Mexico City getting kidnapped, emphasizing that there is no “white town.” Or: before Mexican Oscar winners whined about Trump presuming to criticize their country, they whined about how messed up their country was.

    • Replies: @istevefan
    @J.Ross


    Before the drug war ...
     
    Not that you are making an excuse for Mexico, but I often hear from the other side that Mexico is only messed up because of our appetite for drugs. They say if the USA was not so hungry for drugs Mexico would be free of the drug trafficking, gangs and other related elements.

    But they never explain why our drug usage doesn't turn Canada into a narco state. Canada actually has a longer, more porous border with us. You'd think it would be at least as easy to smuggle drugs from there. But the last time I checked Canada is not a narco state.

    Replies: @syonredux, @J.Ross

  61. @BB753
    @syonredux

    Let me get this, he got better at fighting by getting fatter, like a sumo fighter?

    Replies: @Anonym, @MontanaOsprey

    Let me get this, he got better at fighting by getting fatter, like a sumo fighter?

    About the only people generally as dishonest about their addictions as pot smokers (“It’s only psychologically addictive, maybe, but I can stop whenever I want to!”) are fat people. “It’s glandular!” How many do you hear say “Yeah, I’m a fat lard bucket because I just can’t put down the ice cream, the soft drink, the chocolate, and the fast food.”

    • LOL: BB753
  62. I can understand del Toro’s father being reluctant to visit Mexico, but the son hasn’t been famous for that long.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @BB753

    Part of the shame of Mexican kidnapping has been that they really will grab anyone at any time. A lot of ransoms are startlingly small because a working class guy got taken. Besides, Guillermo's dad's rich and has already been taken before, that makes Guillermo an ideal target.

  63. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    ROTFL. Better to be an ‘immigrant’ in Gringo-land than be in Mexico with fellow Mexicans.

    Same reason why Jews immigrated to Anglo-made US but avoided Mexico as immigration destination.

    These anti-white crowd sure love to move to white-made and white-majority nations.

    They are not so much anti-white as anti-white-resistance to serving as host for other ethnorganisms.

    They want Open Whiteness because they want to feed on whiteness.

  64. @Bragadocious
    I'm still rather amazed they can pull off a WGC golf event in suburban Mexico City. That's a lot of multi-millionaires on one patch of grass--surely a tempting target for enterprising kidnappers. All of the TV coverage made Mexico out to be an idyllic paradise with lush fairways and amazing Mayan ruins but no one dared mention the security measures in place. How many federales with submachine guns were posted around the course? And why do so many big name golfers like Jason Day and Rory McIlroy (not to mention NBC's Johnny Miller) suddenly misplace their passports when the tour goes to Mexico?

    Replies: @Barnard

    I’m guessing most of the players left their families at home. The pattern for kidnappers seems to be to go after family members rather than the wealthy/famous person. The cartel types might even be smart enough to understand kidnapping a pro golfer in Mexico with a golf loving President of the United States already hostile to them might not be a good long term strategy.

  65. Kidnapping and digital money fit together quite nicely. I hope this is not a forecast for an explosion of kidnapping in USA. There was an explosion of kidnapping in 2009 in Phoenix.

  66. http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/awards/oscars/frances-mcdormands-alleged-oscar-thief-has-been-arrested/news-story/64670836116215f598dbcac0e3a68619

    The Inclusion Rider rides off into the sunset with Frances McDormand’s Oscar! My sides!

    Who was that masked man?

    I have two words for you. Inclusion Rider.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Love love love this little story. Obvious enough that the MSM had to cover it, but all 'right-thinking' publications in the USA included McDormand's photo but not the Proud Hero's. "Can't imagine why.."

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/envelope/ct-frances-mcdormand-oscar-20180305-story.html

  67. @Corvinus
    @Thulean Friend

    "As always, look at what they do, not what they say."

    Here is what you and a number of people are not noticing. Wealthy white, black, Asian, and Hispanic people who got out of the slum or a bad home life or overcame some sort of adversity prefer to live in an area where they enjoy the fruits of their labor. It comes down to a matter of safety. And just because they merely do not visit the place where they came from, nor live there after achieving fame and fortune, does not mean they are not mindful of their roots, nor work in humanitarian causes.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Hibernian

    Wealthy white, black, Asian, and Hispanic people who got out of the slum or a bad home life or overcame some sort of adversity prefer to live in an area where they enjoy the fruits of their labor.

    Which, for Blacks and Latinx, means living around White Anglos….

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @syonredux

    "Which, for Blacks and Latinx, means living around White Anglos…."

    White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, not White Anglos.

    Replies: @syonredux

  68. @utu

    most of them specialists from England
     
    How come? Does this reveal something bigger that nobody has thought about? Who is really behind narco gangs in Mexico?

    Replies: @syonredux

    the del Toro family would run through at least three negotiators, most of them specialists from England.

    most of them specialists from England

    How come?

    At a guess, experience derived from the “Troubles” in Northern Ireland.

    Does this reveal something bigger that nobody has thought about?

    Probably not.

    Who is really behind narco gangs in Mexico

    The Irish?

    • Replies: @utu
    @syonredux


    The Irish?
     
    Ever occurred to you to ask a question who was behind Irish.

    Kidnap and ransom: negotiating lives for cash
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-crime-kidnap-ransom/kidnap-and-ransom-negotiating-lives-for-cash-idUSTRE71G3U520110217
    An 18-year veteran of the largely London-based kidnap and ransom insurance industry, his job is to help his firm’s clients manage the business of hostage negotiation, literally bargaining for lives with suitcases of cash.

    Most K [idnap]&R[ransom] consultants are ex-military, intelligence or law-enforcement but Chase says all that is needed is a cool head, ability to cut a deal and work in difficult circumstances.
     

    The £1 billion hostage trade
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/the-1-billion-hostage-trade-2108947.html
     

    Replies: @syonredux

  69. “We would get ransom notes with many syntax and spelling errors. It effects you.”

    C’mon, you made that up, admit it. It never happened. It’s just too perfect.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Svigor

    No.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Svigor

    Whenever I point out someone's spelling or grammatical errors on the internet, my comment always contains a spelling or grammatical error.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Truth

  70. @Svigor

    “We would get ransom notes with many syntax and spelling errors. It effects you.”
     
    C'mon, you made that up, admit it. It never happened. It's just too perfect.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Harry Baldwin

    No.

  71. Anonymous [AKA "D-Harry"] says:

    NOw you can see that the new Master in the world is Mexico, Mexico is the owner of California and HOllywood, so the Jews of Jewlliwood work for Mexico, that s the reason for every year Mexicans win Oscars. Jews are tryinbg to tell and convince the world that Mexicans are the superior race in this world. Del Toro said that there must be OPEN borders. Those are the orders by Mexican government and Jews. .

  72. Meanwhile, the purges go on:

    A middle school teacher led a double life as a white nationalist podcaster

    For more than a year, Volitich has been leading a double life.

    She is a popular white-nationalist podcaster known as Tiana Dalichov who espouses anti-Semitic conspiracy theories and believes that Muslims should be eradicated from the earth, according to HuffPost. She’s defended and praised neo-Nazis and white nationalists such as Arthur Jones, Patrick Casey and former KKK grand wizard David Duke. She says she believes that science has proven that certain races are simply smarter than others and decried training about implicit bias in classrooms as “bulls—.”

    And she is also a social studies teacher at Crystal River Middle School about 80 miles north of Tampa — one who has said it’s her duty to expose her students to her version of the truth.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2018/03/05/a-middle-school-teacher-led-a-double-life-as-a-white-nationalist-podcaster/?utm_term=.0e6e16345684

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @syonredux


    Exclusive: Florida Public School Teacher Has A White Nationalist Podcast
    Dayanna Volitich suggests Muslims be eradicated from the earth, believes anti-Semitic conspiracy theories ... and teaches middle school social studies.
     

    UPDATE ― March 4: Dayanna Volitich has been “removed from the classroom,” Citrus County School District Superintendent Sandra Himmel announced Sunday in a statement.

    “On Friday, March 2, 2018, the Citrus County School District was made aware [by a HuffPost reporter] of a concerning podcast,” Himmel said in the statement. “The Human Resources department was notified and an investigation was initiated immediately. The teacher has been removed from the classroom and the investigation is ongoing.”
     

    In her most recent podcast on Feb. 26, a guest railed against diversity in schools, dismissing the idea that “a kid from Nigeria and a kid who came from Sweden are supposed to learn exactly the same” and have the “same IQ.” Volitich enthusiastically agreed with the guest, and went on to argue that “science” has proven that certain races are smarter than others.

     

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/florida-public-school-teacher-white-nationalist-podcast_us_5a99ae32e4b089ec353a1fba
  73. @syonredux
    Meanwhile, the purges go on:

    A middle school teacher led a double life as a white nationalist podcaster

     


    For more than a year, Volitich has been leading a double life.

    She is a popular white-nationalist podcaster known as Tiana Dalichov who espouses anti-Semitic conspiracy theories and believes that Muslims should be eradicated from the earth, according to HuffPost. She’s defended and praised neo-Nazis and white nationalists such as Arthur Jones, Patrick Casey and former KKK grand wizard David Duke. She says she believes that science has proven that certain races are simply smarter than others and decried training about implicit bias in classrooms as “bulls—.”

    And she is also a social studies teacher at Crystal River Middle School about 80 miles north of Tampa — one who has said it’s her duty to expose her students to her version of the truth.
     
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2018/03/05/a-middle-school-teacher-led-a-double-life-as-a-white-nationalist-podcaster/?utm_term=.0e6e16345684

    Replies: @syonredux

    Exclusive: Florida Public School Teacher Has A White Nationalist Podcast
    Dayanna Volitich suggests Muslims be eradicated from the earth, believes anti-Semitic conspiracy theories … and teaches middle school social studies.

    UPDATE ― March 4: Dayanna Volitich has been “removed from the classroom,” Citrus County School District Superintendent Sandra Himmel announced Sunday in a statement.

    “On Friday, March 2, 2018, the Citrus County School District was made aware [by a HuffPost reporter] of a concerning podcast,” Himmel said in the statement. “The Human Resources department was notified and an investigation was initiated immediately. The teacher has been removed from the classroom and the investigation is ongoing.”

    In her most recent podcast on Feb. 26, a guest railed against diversity in schools, dismissing the idea that “a kid from Nigeria and a kid who came from Sweden are supposed to learn exactly the same” and have the “same IQ.” Volitich enthusiastically agreed with the guest, and went on to argue that “science” has proven that certain races are smarter than others.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/florida-public-school-teacher-white-nationalist-podcast_us_5a99ae32e4b089ec353a1fba

  74. @syonredux
    That's right, bigots. A Man of Color won best director:


    http://www.indiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/guillermo-del-toro.jpg

    Replies: @syonredux, @Hibernian

    Could he be related to the Romneys?

  75. @Corvinus
    @Thulean Friend

    "As always, look at what they do, not what they say."

    Here is what you and a number of people are not noticing. Wealthy white, black, Asian, and Hispanic people who got out of the slum or a bad home life or overcame some sort of adversity prefer to live in an area where they enjoy the fruits of their labor. It comes down to a matter of safety. And just because they merely do not visit the place where they came from, nor live there after achieving fame and fortune, does not mean they are not mindful of their roots, nor work in humanitarian causes.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Hibernian

    Sort of like white liberals.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Hibernian

    "Sort of like white liberals."

    No, sort of like all people who seek to move to where they are able to afford it.

    Replies: @Anon

  76. @syonredux
    @utu


    the del Toro family would run through at least three negotiators, most of them specialists from England.

     


    most of them specialists from England

    How come?
     
    At a guess, experience derived from the "Troubles" in Northern Ireland.

    Does this reveal something bigger that nobody has thought about?
     
    Probably not.

    Who is really behind narco gangs in Mexico
     
    The Irish?

    Replies: @utu

    The Irish?

    Ever occurred to you to ask a question who was behind Irish.

    Kidnap and ransom: negotiating lives for cash
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-crime-kidnap-ransom/kidnap-and-ransom-negotiating-lives-for-cash-idUSTRE71G3U520110217
    An 18-year veteran of the largely London-based kidnap and ransom insurance industry, his job is to help his firm’s clients manage the business of hostage negotiation, literally bargaining for lives with suitcases of cash.

    Most K [idnap]&R[ransom] consultants are ex-military, intelligence or law-enforcement but Chase says all that is needed is a cool head, ability to cut a deal and work in difficult circumstances.

    The £1 billion hostage trade
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/the-1-billion-hostage-trade-2108947.html

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @utu


    The Irish?

    Ever occurred to you to ask a question who was behind Irish.
     
    The Fir Bolg?
  77. @syonredux
    @Corvinus


    Wealthy white, black, Asian, and Hispanic people who got out of the slum or a bad home life or overcame some sort of adversity prefer to live in an area where they enjoy the fruits of their labor.
     
    Which, for Blacks and Latinx, means living around White Anglos....

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Which, for Blacks and Latinx, means living around White Anglos….”

    White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, not White Anglos.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Corvinus


    “Which, for Blacks and Latinx, means living around White Anglos….”

    White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, not White Anglos.
     
    White American is prole-tier; White Anglo is classy.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  78. @Hibernian
    @Corvinus

    Sort of like white liberals.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Sort of like white liberals.”

    No, sort of like all people who seek to move to where they are able to afford it.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Corvinus

    No, sort of like white liberals who seek to move to where they are able to afford it.

    FTFY

    Replies: @Corvinus

  79. @Corvinus
    @syonredux

    "Which, for Blacks and Latinx, means living around White Anglos…."

    White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, not White Anglos.

    Replies: @syonredux

    “Which, for Blacks and Latinx, means living around White Anglos….”

    White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, not White Anglos.

    White American is prole-tier; White Anglo is classy.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @syonredux

    "White American is prole-tier; White Anglo is classy."

    White Anglo, which is clearly an elitist term, is specific to those whose ancestors are of British descent.

    In any event, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

    Replies: @syonredux

  80. @utu
    @syonredux


    The Irish?
     
    Ever occurred to you to ask a question who was behind Irish.

    Kidnap and ransom: negotiating lives for cash
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-crime-kidnap-ransom/kidnap-and-ransom-negotiating-lives-for-cash-idUSTRE71G3U520110217
    An 18-year veteran of the largely London-based kidnap and ransom insurance industry, his job is to help his firm’s clients manage the business of hostage negotiation, literally bargaining for lives with suitcases of cash.

    Most K [idnap]&R[ransom] consultants are ex-military, intelligence or law-enforcement but Chase says all that is needed is a cool head, ability to cut a deal and work in difficult circumstances.
     

    The £1 billion hostage trade
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/the-1-billion-hostage-trade-2108947.html
     

    Replies: @syonredux

    The Irish?

    Ever occurred to you to ask a question who was behind Irish.

    The Fir Bolg?

  81. @Barnard
    Guillermo del Toro should look into doing a remake of Man on Fire about his dad's story.

    Having relatives back home kidnapped has been a big problem for baseball players from Venezuela, but I don't think it has happened much to players from other Latin American countries.

    Replies: @Triumph104

    In 2004 and 2005, the family members of several Brazilian soccer players who played for Brazilian teams were kidnapped.

    On 6 November 2004 Marina da Silva Souza, mother of Brazilian football’s brightest young hope Robinho, was abducted.

    The kidnapper’s first demand was that Robinho stop playing football – a psychological ploy to show that they were in control.

    Next they sent him a video tape of his mother in captivity, in which the kidnappers could be seen cutting off her hair. …

    After 41 days, Robinho agreed to pay a ransom of $75,000 (£43,000) for the release of his mother.

    But this was just the first of five footballers’ mothers to be kidnapped over a period of only five months.

    The second woman to be targeted was the mother of the Sao Paulo striker Grafite.

    During the kidnapping at the family home, Grafite’s father was tied up and gagged. …

    “Sadly in Brazil, everything that’s bad becomes a fashion. Brazilians are like that. First it was kidnapping businessmen, then their wives and children and now they see an easy target in footballers.”

    In September 2005, Robinho left Brazil for Real Madrid in Spain and took his family with him.

    The threat of kidnapping was a major factor in his decision. …

    The first prison wing exclusively for kidnappers is also being constructed, in the hope that isolating them will stop other inmates learning the latest trends.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/this_world/4898554.stm

    Manda Bala (Send a Bullet) (2007) is a good documentary about kidnapping and other crimes in Brazil. I believe the film was banned in Brazil.

  82. istevefan says:
    @J.Ross
    @istevefan

    This has been a major feature of Mexico for some time: there is no order, at all, for everyone. Almost all Spanish-speaking countries are dysfunctional hellholes, but there is a kind of order. After you pay taxes to the government you pay taxes to the FARC or whatever and that way nobody in your family gets kidnapped. Not Mexico. Too many independent operators. Before the drug war and the advent of modern cinematic fantasists, the big story was universal kidnapping, and one of the major films exported to the art house circuit was about a successful white collar guy in Mexico City getting kidnapped, emphasizing that there is no "white town." Or: before Mexican Oscar winners whined about Trump presuming to criticize their country, they whined about how messed up their country was.

    Replies: @istevefan

    Before the drug war …

    Not that you are making an excuse for Mexico, but I often hear from the other side that Mexico is only messed up because of our appetite for drugs. They say if the USA was not so hungry for drugs Mexico would be free of the drug trafficking, gangs and other related elements.

    But they never explain why our drug usage doesn’t turn Canada into a narco state. Canada actually has a longer, more porous border with us. You’d think it would be at least as easy to smuggle drugs from there. But the last time I checked Canada is not a narco state.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @istevefan


    repetition of the mantra “this is the bloodiest era in the country’s history since the Mexican Revolution” (Analysis, 4 April) does not make it true. The Cristero (Catholic) insurgency of the late 1920s (ie after the revolution) generated homicide rates of 200 per 100,000 (the standard metric), compared to 24 per 100,000 in 2011; more significantly, the homicide rate in 1940 was 67 per 100,000; and even circa 1960 – when no revolts happened and the “Peace of the PRI” (the then ruling party) prevailed – it was higher than it is today.

    Alan Knight
    Professor of the history of Latin America, Oxford University
     
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/apr/10/mexico-murder-rate
    , @J.Ross
    @istevefan

    That and their other favorite claim is that it's all the CIA's doing. Mexico is huge and diverse. Uruguay is a geographical afterthought and it's strongly leftist; it's also almost the only Spanish-speaking country that has its stuff together. How was the CIA completely unable to screw tiny Uruguay but smashingly successful in Mexico and all its neighbors?
    Last time I got into it with a Mexican poster on 4chan I tried to bring up the fact that the Spanish colonies were sort of like company towns whereas England properly and completely settled; the Spanish Empire was an unmodified product of the Feudal system whereas English society in the colonizing period had extremely important trends that would eventually guarantee a universal sense of cultural correctness and enfranchisement. No, said he, CIA.
    I despise the CIA and have frequently called for it to be Beria'd, or broken up and given to the NSA and the DIA, but am certain that the CIA is as responsible for current Mexican problems (which have clear connections to its history) as Nazi antarctic UFOs.

  83. @istevefan
    @J.Ross


    Before the drug war ...
     
    Not that you are making an excuse for Mexico, but I often hear from the other side that Mexico is only messed up because of our appetite for drugs. They say if the USA was not so hungry for drugs Mexico would be free of the drug trafficking, gangs and other related elements.

    But they never explain why our drug usage doesn't turn Canada into a narco state. Canada actually has a longer, more porous border with us. You'd think it would be at least as easy to smuggle drugs from there. But the last time I checked Canada is not a narco state.

    Replies: @syonredux, @J.Ross

    repetition of the mantra “this is the bloodiest era in the country’s history since the Mexican Revolution” (Analysis, 4 April) does not make it true. The Cristero (Catholic) insurgency of the late 1920s (ie after the revolution) generated homicide rates of 200 per 100,000 (the standard metric), compared to 24 per 100,000 in 2011; more significantly, the homicide rate in 1940 was 67 per 100,000; and even circa 1960 – when no revolts happened and the “Peace of the PRI” (the then ruling party) prevailed – it was higher than it is today.

    Alan Knight
    Professor of the history of Latin America, Oxford University

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/apr/10/mexico-murder-rate

  84. @Svigor

    “We would get ransom notes with many syntax and spelling errors. It effects you.”
     
    C'mon, you made that up, admit it. It never happened. It's just too perfect.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Harry Baldwin

    Whenever I point out someone’s spelling or grammatical errors on the internet, my comment always contains a spelling or grammatical error.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Harry Baldwin

    It's OK with me Harry, so long as it's not in the form of a ransom note.

    "Breeng me 1 MILLION DOLLARS, yanquis, or I will eemale the feets of Tiny Dick, one by one! Show me the money!"

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Truth
    @Harry Baldwin

    Might indicate a good time to stop.

  85. @istevefan
    @J.Ross


    Before the drug war ...
     
    Not that you are making an excuse for Mexico, but I often hear from the other side that Mexico is only messed up because of our appetite for drugs. They say if the USA was not so hungry for drugs Mexico would be free of the drug trafficking, gangs and other related elements.

    But they never explain why our drug usage doesn't turn Canada into a narco state. Canada actually has a longer, more porous border with us. You'd think it would be at least as easy to smuggle drugs from there. But the last time I checked Canada is not a narco state.

    Replies: @syonredux, @J.Ross

    That and their other favorite claim is that it’s all the CIA’s doing. Mexico is huge and diverse. Uruguay is a geographical afterthought and it’s strongly leftist; it’s also almost the only Spanish-speaking country that has its stuff together. How was the CIA completely unable to screw tiny Uruguay but smashingly successful in Mexico and all its neighbors?
    Last time I got into it with a Mexican poster on 4chan I tried to bring up the fact that the Spanish colonies were sort of like company towns whereas England properly and completely settled; the Spanish Empire was an unmodified product of the Feudal system whereas English society in the colonizing period had extremely important trends that would eventually guarantee a universal sense of cultural correctness and enfranchisement. No, said he, CIA.
    I despise the CIA and have frequently called for it to be Beria’d, or broken up and given to the NSA and the DIA, but am certain that the CIA is as responsible for current Mexican problems (which have clear connections to its history) as Nazi antarctic UFOs.

  86. @Corvinus
    @Hibernian

    "Sort of like white liberals."

    No, sort of like all people who seek to move to where they are able to afford it.

    Replies: @Anon

    No, sort of like white liberals who seek to move to where they are able to afford it.

    FTFY

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Anon

    White liberals, who are part of all people, who go this route. So it just is not exclusively this group.

  87. @Harry Baldwin
    @Svigor

    Whenever I point out someone's spelling or grammatical errors on the internet, my comment always contains a spelling or grammatical error.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Truth

    It’s OK with me Harry, so long as it’s not in the form of a ransom note.

    “Breeng me 1 MILLION DOLLARS, yanquis, or I will eemale the feets of Tiny Dick, one by one! Show me the money!”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Achmed E. Newman

    OMG

    Seriously, he's not on this one. This is really effecting my enjoyment of this thread ... for the better.

  88. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Harry Baldwin

    It's OK with me Harry, so long as it's not in the form of a ransom note.

    "Breeng me 1 MILLION DOLLARS, yanquis, or I will eemale the feets of Tiny Dick, one by one! Show me the money!"

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    OMG

    Seriously, he’s not on this one. This is really effecting my enjoyment of this thread … for the better.

  89. @BB753
    I can understand del Toro's father being reluctant to visit Mexico, but the son hasn't been famous for that long.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Part of the shame of Mexican kidnapping has been that they really will grab anyone at any time. A lot of ransoms are startlingly small because a working class guy got taken. Besides, Guillermo’s dad’s rich and has already been taken before, that makes Guillermo an ideal target.

    • Agree: BB753
  90. Well, since this is Steve’s blog, we should compare Oak Park, Il vs. Austin, Chicago, Il. Over the last ten years there appear to have been about 4 murders in Oak Park with a population of about 50,000
    Rate = 4/(50ooo*10) about 1 per 100000 per year
    Austin shows 50 last year for a population of about 100000 50 per 100000. (from Wikipedia)
    I had to average Oak Park over 10 years since my data for it ends in 2016 and then there hadn’t been a murder since 2010. Because of the large numbers for Austin, averaging isn’t necessary.

  91. @BB753
    @syonredux

    Let me get this, he got better at fighting by getting fatter, like a sumo fighter?

    Replies: @Anonym, @MontanaOsprey

    He’s gotta be within 100 pounds of his probable hero, Michael Moore!

  92. I love these high caste Euro-Mexicans and the “hey, fellow minorities” routine they run on Anglos who are easily snookered by Spanish names. Here’s a particularly egregious example from Vicente Fox:

    These people are shameless, as are all the degenerates in the homo orgy known as Hollywood who push #metoo etc., essentially lecturing all of the normal people from a position of self-bestowed moral authority.

    Incidentally, last night I saw a clip featuring the “founder” of the #metoo movement, and LOL at the suggestion that she has ever garnered male sexual attention.

    https://www.popsugar.com/news/Tarana-Burke-Me-Too-Drop-Times-Square-New-Years-Ball-2017-44436819

    “Tarana Burke” for those who want more.

  93. Did anyone else note that Benicio del Toro’s character in that “Sicario 2” trailer bump-fires his handgun (just with his finger, no bump stock)?

    WE MUST BAN BENICIO DEL TORO’S FINGER! For a good measure, just to be safe, let us ban all the fingers of all the people surnamed “del Toro”!

  94. @Father O'Hara
    Can I add one thing? Was anyone struck by how thick was Selma Hayek's...accent. Seriously,after all these years can't she learn to speak the Kings English without sounding like her mouth is full of refried beans?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    She probably could, and I would not be surprised if she can – thespians are good at that – but it might be less profitable. Like most women who use their sex appeal to go to the very top, she’s actually using her wit to do the heavy lifting.

  95. @Cpluskx
    Everyday Steve Sailer is becoming more like his favorite politician: Trump, a rambling insane person. This time a meltdown over a Mexican guy winning best director.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Percy Gryce, @grapesoda, @SteveRogers42

    Heywood Jablome.

  96. @songbird
    I don't know how credible the story behind "On the Wings of Eagles" is, but the idea of Ross Perot going straight to his wall safe, upon hearing about the situation of his employees in Iran, and filling a bag with money to hire a bunch of mercenaries to free them always appealed to me.

    Replies: @Alden

    I read the book, what a man, a real man.

  97. @Anon
    @Corvinus

    No, sort of like white liberals who seek to move to where they are able to afford it.

    FTFY

    Replies: @Corvinus

    White liberals, who are part of all people, who go this route. So it just is not exclusively this group.

  98. @syonredux
    @Corvinus


    “Which, for Blacks and Latinx, means living around White Anglos….”

    White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, not White Anglos.
     
    White American is prole-tier; White Anglo is classy.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “White American is prole-tier; White Anglo is classy.”

    White Anglo, which is clearly an elitist term, is specific to those whose ancestors are of British descent.

    In any event, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Corvinus


    White American is prole-tier; White Anglo is classy.”

    White Anglo, which is clearly an elitist term, is specific to those whose ancestors are of British descent.
     
    Nah. Anglo-Saxon implies descent; Anglo implies culture. Think of the difference in meaning between Spanish and Hispanic/Latino/Latinx. Spanish=Iberian descent. Hispanic/Latino/Latinx= Iberian derived culture. Spanish is to Anglo-Saxon as Anglo is to Hispanic/Latino/Latinx.

    In any event, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.
     
    Caviar to the general.That being said, White Anglo is becoming increasingly common in academia....so, one can expect a slow trickle-down to the Proles. Besides, it's such a useful phrase. Remember, the great struggle of our time:the eternal contest between Anglo-America and Latinx America.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  99. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @rogue-one
    Men like Guillermo Del Toro are a very strong argument against high skill migration. I generally used to support high skill migration. But look at what Mr Del Toro does. He & his family escape a crime ridden country. They come into a country of opportunity where he can achieve his artistic ambitions.

    And what does he do? He portrays his host country & culture as irredeemably evil in his art and in his speeches. Talk about ingratitude and biting the hand that feeds you.

    Replies: @Anon

    @ And what does he do? He portrays his host country & culture as irredeemably evil in his art and in his speeches. Talk about ingratitude and biting the hand that feeds you.

    Not that I disagree about the ingratitude/hypocrisy, but he went to Hollywood because Hollywood is as demented and twisted as he is. Like attracts like. One more Hollywood type that’s suicidal, in all likelihood.

    • Agree: BB753
  100. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Del Toro’s evil is much worse than the “kick the door in” thing. Bad as it is, that is just hypocrisy. Woman and demonic monster, on the other hand, is truly twisted, aimed at penetrating the mind.

    Just resent the bleak video to a couple of whatsapp groups with Del Toro groupies. Not sure it’ll penetrate, but they’ll get uncomfortable. Thanks Mr. Sailer.

  101. @Corvinus
    @syonredux

    "White American is prole-tier; White Anglo is classy."

    White Anglo, which is clearly an elitist term, is specific to those whose ancestors are of British descent.

    In any event, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

    Replies: @syonredux

    White American is prole-tier; White Anglo is classy.”

    White Anglo, which is clearly an elitist term, is specific to those whose ancestors are of British descent.

    Nah. Anglo-Saxon implies descent; Anglo implies culture. Think of the difference in meaning between Spanish and Hispanic/Latino/Latinx. Spanish=Iberian descent. Hispanic/Latino/Latinx= Iberian derived culture. Spanish is to Anglo-Saxon as Anglo is to Hispanic/Latino/Latinx.

    In any event, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

    Caviar to the general.That being said, White Anglo is becoming increasingly common in academia….so, one can expect a slow trickle-down to the Proles. Besides, it’s such a useful phrase. Remember, the great struggle of our time:the eternal contest between Anglo-America and Latinx America.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @syonredux

    You are doubling (or is tripling?) down here. Regardless if it is employed as a cultural descriptor, Anglo is rarely used by white Americans; it denotes a connection between English people and the Western Hemisphere as a whole.

    Once again, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

    "White Anglo is becoming increasingly common in academia….so, one can expect a slow trickle-down to the Proles."

    Appeal to authority on your part. Academia, now isn't that liberal claptrap elitism? So, in what specific ways is "White Anglo" become increasingly common in today's academia? I'm sure you have particular data points to demonstrate clearly how this term is on the dramatic rise among universities and professors--liberal indoctrination mills--within the past two decades, right?

    "Remember, the great struggle of our time:the eternal contest between Anglo-America and Latinx America."

    No, the great struggle of our time is between the Coalition of the Fringes Right and Left, with normies stuck in the mi

    Replies: @syonredux, @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus, @Corvinus

  102. @Harry Baldwin
    @Svigor

    Whenever I point out someone's spelling or grammatical errors on the internet, my comment always contains a spelling or grammatical error.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Truth

    Might indicate a good time to stop.

  103. @syonredux
    @Corvinus


    White American is prole-tier; White Anglo is classy.”

    White Anglo, which is clearly an elitist term, is specific to those whose ancestors are of British descent.
     
    Nah. Anglo-Saxon implies descent; Anglo implies culture. Think of the difference in meaning between Spanish and Hispanic/Latino/Latinx. Spanish=Iberian descent. Hispanic/Latino/Latinx= Iberian derived culture. Spanish is to Anglo-Saxon as Anglo is to Hispanic/Latino/Latinx.

    In any event, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.
     
    Caviar to the general.That being said, White Anglo is becoming increasingly common in academia....so, one can expect a slow trickle-down to the Proles. Besides, it's such a useful phrase. Remember, the great struggle of our time:the eternal contest between Anglo-America and Latinx America.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    You are doubling (or is tripling?) down here. Regardless if it is employed as a cultural descriptor, Anglo is rarely used by white Americans; it denotes a connection between English people and the Western Hemisphere as a whole.

    Once again, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

    “White Anglo is becoming increasingly common in academia….so, one can expect a slow trickle-down to the Proles.”

    Appeal to authority on your part. Academia, now isn’t that liberal claptrap elitism? So, in what specific ways is “White Anglo” become increasingly common in today’s academia? I’m sure you have particular data points to demonstrate clearly how this term is on the dramatic rise among universities and professors–liberal indoctrination mills–within the past two decades, right?

    “Remember, the great struggle of our time:the eternal contest between Anglo-America and Latinx America.”

    No, the great struggle of our time is between the Coalition of the Fringes Right and Left, with normies stuck in the mi

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Corvinus


    You are doubling (or is tripling?) down here. Regardless if it is employed as a cultural descriptor, Anglo is rarely used by white Americans; it denotes a connection between English people and the Western Hemisphere as a whole.
     
    Not the "Western Hemisphere as a whole," dear fellow, just the Anglo-American part.

    Once again, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.
     
    Things are changing with uncommon swiftness these days.....

    Appeal to authority on your part. Academia, now isn’t that liberal claptrap elitism? So, in what specific ways is “White Anglo” become increasingly common in today’s academia? I’m sure you have particular data points to demonstrate clearly how this term is on the dramatic rise among universities and professors–liberal indoctrination mills–within the past two decades, right?

     

    Hear it all the time at conferences, dear fellow. The future looks quite bright for all things Anglo: Anglosphere, Anglo-America, White Anglo.....

    Surely you recall how the SJWs were rustled when Jeff Sessions uttered the dreaded phrase, "Anglo-American":


    https://www.unz.com/isteve/senator-schatz-outraged-to-hear-that-america-has-an-anglo-american-heritage-of-law-enforcement/

    No, the great struggle of our time is between the Coalition of the Fringes Right and Left, with normies stuck in the mi
     
    And the Latinx are a vital part of the Coalition of the Fringes......Again, Anglo-America vs. Latinx America....Mark Twain, Henry James, and Willa Cather vs Carlos Fuentes and Octavio Paz....
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Corvinus

    I'm shocked to find myself (almost) agreeing with the corvine one here. At worst, he's less wrong than Syon. "Anglo", without a suffix, is greaser slang and far from anything we should call ourselves. I prefer gringo. It's more honest.

    "Anglo" belongs in the trashbin along with "Czechia" and "tuition" used for anything but instruction itself.

    Replies: @syonredux

    , @Corvinus
    @Corvinus

    with normies stuck in the middle, I meant to say.

    , @Corvinus
    @Corvinus

    with normies stuck in the middle, I meant to say.

  104. @Corvinus
    @syonredux

    You are doubling (or is tripling?) down here. Regardless if it is employed as a cultural descriptor, Anglo is rarely used by white Americans; it denotes a connection between English people and the Western Hemisphere as a whole.

    Once again, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

    "White Anglo is becoming increasingly common in academia….so, one can expect a slow trickle-down to the Proles."

    Appeal to authority on your part. Academia, now isn't that liberal claptrap elitism? So, in what specific ways is "White Anglo" become increasingly common in today's academia? I'm sure you have particular data points to demonstrate clearly how this term is on the dramatic rise among universities and professors--liberal indoctrination mills--within the past two decades, right?

    "Remember, the great struggle of our time:the eternal contest between Anglo-America and Latinx America."

    No, the great struggle of our time is between the Coalition of the Fringes Right and Left, with normies stuck in the mi

    Replies: @syonredux, @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus, @Corvinus

    You are doubling (or is tripling?) down here. Regardless if it is employed as a cultural descriptor, Anglo is rarely used by white Americans; it denotes a connection between English people and the Western Hemisphere as a whole.

    Not the “Western Hemisphere as a whole,” dear fellow, just the Anglo-American part.

    Once again, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

    Things are changing with uncommon swiftness these days…..

    Appeal to authority on your part. Academia, now isn’t that liberal claptrap elitism? So, in what specific ways is “White Anglo” become increasingly common in today’s academia? I’m sure you have particular data points to demonstrate clearly how this term is on the dramatic rise among universities and professors–liberal indoctrination mills–within the past two decades, right?

    Hear it all the time at conferences, dear fellow. The future looks quite bright for all things Anglo: Anglosphere, Anglo-America, White Anglo…..

    Surely you recall how the SJWs were rustled when Jeff Sessions uttered the dreaded phrase, “Anglo-American”:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/senator-schatz-outraged-to-hear-that-america-has-an-anglo-american-heritage-of-law-enforcement/

    No, the great struggle of our time is between the Coalition of the Fringes Right and Left, with normies stuck in the mi

    And the Latinx are a vital part of the Coalition of the Fringes……Again, Anglo-America vs. Latinx America….Mark Twain, Henry James, and Willa Cather vs Carlos Fuentes and Octavio Paz….

  105. @Corvinus
    @syonredux

    You are doubling (or is tripling?) down here. Regardless if it is employed as a cultural descriptor, Anglo is rarely used by white Americans; it denotes a connection between English people and the Western Hemisphere as a whole.

    Once again, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

    "White Anglo is becoming increasingly common in academia….so, one can expect a slow trickle-down to the Proles."

    Appeal to authority on your part. Academia, now isn't that liberal claptrap elitism? So, in what specific ways is "White Anglo" become increasingly common in today's academia? I'm sure you have particular data points to demonstrate clearly how this term is on the dramatic rise among universities and professors--liberal indoctrination mills--within the past two decades, right?

    "Remember, the great struggle of our time:the eternal contest between Anglo-America and Latinx America."

    No, the great struggle of our time is between the Coalition of the Fringes Right and Left, with normies stuck in the mi

    Replies: @syonredux, @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus, @Corvinus

    I’m shocked to find myself (almost) agreeing with the corvine one here. At worst, he’s less wrong than Syon. “Anglo”, without a suffix, is greaser slang and far from anything we should call ourselves. I prefer gringo. It’s more honest.

    “Anglo” belongs in the trashbin along with “Czechia” and “tuition” used for anything but instruction itself.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Reg Cæsar


    I’m shocked to find myself (almost) agreeing with the corvine one here. At worst, he’s less wrong than Syon. “Anglo”, without a suffix, is greaser slang and far from anything we should call ourselves. I prefer gringo. It’s more honest.

     

    Names often originate as pejoratives: Tory, Whig, etc

    I enjoy the word. It's like a punch in the face to the Latinx.

    RE: Gringo,

    We're not Greeks.
  106. “Not the “Western Hemisphere as a whole,” dear fellow, just the Anglo-American part.”

    No, the Western Hemisphere is included here, the context properly of where Anglo-Americans had settled.

    “Hear it all the time at conferences, dear fellow. The future looks quite bright for all things Anglo: Anglosphere, Anglo-America, White Anglo…”

    That doesn’t meet the standard of proof on your part, and you know it. As a professor, you demand your students offer specific examples. You stated with conviction how “Anglo is becoming increasingly common in academia”. Certainly if it is “hear it all the time at conferences”, then you would have documentary evidence. So, in what specific ways is “White Anglo” become increasingly common in today’s academia? I’m sure you have particular data points to demonstrate clearly how this term is on the dramatic rise among universities and professors–liberal indoctrination mills–within the past two decades, right?

    “Surely you recall how the SJWs were rustled when Jeff Sessions uttered the dreaded phrase, “Anglo-American”…”

    Sessions is a product of his times and his heritage. I am aware that Anglo-American in the context of his speech refers to a common legal term. However, that term did not appear in his speech transcript. Furthermore, there are always certain buzz words or code words used to say something without saying something. It’s called plausible deniability.

    “And the Latinx are a vital part of the Coalition of the Fringes……Again, Anglo-America vs. Latinx America….Mark Twain, Henry James, and Willa Cather vs Carlos Fuentes and Octavio Paz….”

    No, I’m afraid these comparisons just serve as fodder for the COTF. Feel free to entertain yourself. True literary connoisseurs appreciate different genres and authors, and need not put one group of classic authors against another group of classic authors, as you are doing, to simply score cultural points.

    As always, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Corvinus


    “Not the “Western Hemisphere as a whole,” dear fellow, just the Anglo-American part.”

    No, the Western Hemisphere is included here, the context properly of where Anglo-Americans had settled.
     

    But not in all of it, dear fellow. The Western Hemisphere is roughly tripartite in structure: Anglo-America, Latinx America , and Francophone America.

    “Hear it all the time at conferences, dear fellow. The future looks quite bright for all things Anglo: Anglosphere, Anglo-America, White Anglo…”

    That doesn’t meet the standard of proof on your part, and you know it. As a professor, you demand your students offer specific examples. You stated with conviction how “Anglo is becoming increasingly common in academia”. Certainly if it is “hear it all the time at conferences”, then you would have documentary evidence. So, in what specific ways is “White Anglo” become increasingly common in today’s academia? I’m sure you have particular data points to demonstrate clearly how this term is on the dramatic rise among universities and professors–liberal indoctrination mills–within the past two decades, right?
     

    I'm afraid that conferences and seminars are oral in nature, dear fellow......

    “Surely you recall how the SJWs were rustled when Jeff Sessions uttered the dreaded phrase, “Anglo-American”…”

    Sessions is a product of his times and his heritage. I am aware that Anglo-American in the context of his speech refers to a common legal term. However, that term did not appear in his speech transcript. Furthermore, there are always certain buzz words or code words used to say something without saying something. It’s called plausible deniability.
     

    Rather more than that, dear fellow:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-America

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Americans

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglosphere


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo


    “And the Latinx are a vital part of the Coalition of the Fringes……Again, Anglo-America vs. Latinx America….Mark Twain, Henry James, and Willa Cather vs Carlos Fuentes and Octavio Paz….”

    No, I’m afraid these comparisons just serve as fodder for the COTF. Feel free to entertain yourself. True literary connoisseurs appreciate different genres and authors, and need not put one group of classic authors against another group of classic authors, as you are doing, to simply score cultural points.
     

    You think that Carlos Fuentes and Octavio Paz are classic authors? Well, no accounting for taste.....


    As for appreciating non-Anglo authors, I'm all for it. My life has certainly been enriched by the work of Dante, Cervantes, Thomas Mann, Borges.....But, when all is said and done, and the battle is lost and won, Anglo lit is more important to Anglos than work composed in other, lesser, languages....


    As always, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.
     
    Look at how the very word "Anglo" makes you quiver......

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @syonredux
    @Corvinus

    Incidentally, this little conversation has given me an idea for the next meeting of my campus covert conservative club. We've always called it the Anglo-American Studies Group, and my students have all been quite enthusiastic about calling themselves "Anglo." But what if a preferable alternative can be found?

    It should be a fun night, not too serious. Some terms that I will offer: "Heritage American," "Preamble American*,"Saxons, Anglians, Anglics, ......


    *Heartiste's favorites

  107. @Reg Cæsar
    @Corvinus

    I'm shocked to find myself (almost) agreeing with the corvine one here. At worst, he's less wrong than Syon. "Anglo", without a suffix, is greaser slang and far from anything we should call ourselves. I prefer gringo. It's more honest.

    "Anglo" belongs in the trashbin along with "Czechia" and "tuition" used for anything but instruction itself.

    Replies: @syonredux

    I’m shocked to find myself (almost) agreeing with the corvine one here. At worst, he’s less wrong than Syon. “Anglo”, without a suffix, is greaser slang and far from anything we should call ourselves. I prefer gringo. It’s more honest.

    Names often originate as pejoratives: Tory, Whig, etc

    I enjoy the word. It’s like a punch in the face to the Latinx.

    RE: Gringo,

    We’re not Greeks.

  108. @Corvinus
    @syonredux

    You are doubling (or is tripling?) down here. Regardless if it is employed as a cultural descriptor, Anglo is rarely used by white Americans; it denotes a connection between English people and the Western Hemisphere as a whole.

    Once again, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

    "White Anglo is becoming increasingly common in academia….so, one can expect a slow trickle-down to the Proles."

    Appeal to authority on your part. Academia, now isn't that liberal claptrap elitism? So, in what specific ways is "White Anglo" become increasingly common in today's academia? I'm sure you have particular data points to demonstrate clearly how this term is on the dramatic rise among universities and professors--liberal indoctrination mills--within the past two decades, right?

    "Remember, the great struggle of our time:the eternal contest between Anglo-America and Latinx America."

    No, the great struggle of our time is between the Coalition of the Fringes Right and Left, with normies stuck in the mi

    Replies: @syonredux, @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus, @Corvinus

    with normies stuck in the middle, I meant to say.

  109. @Corvinus
    @syonredux

    You are doubling (or is tripling?) down here. Regardless if it is employed as a cultural descriptor, Anglo is rarely used by white Americans; it denotes a connection between English people and the Western Hemisphere as a whole.

    Once again, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

    "White Anglo is becoming increasingly common in academia….so, one can expect a slow trickle-down to the Proles."

    Appeal to authority on your part. Academia, now isn't that liberal claptrap elitism? So, in what specific ways is "White Anglo" become increasingly common in today's academia? I'm sure you have particular data points to demonstrate clearly how this term is on the dramatic rise among universities and professors--liberal indoctrination mills--within the past two decades, right?

    "Remember, the great struggle of our time:the eternal contest between Anglo-America and Latinx America."

    No, the great struggle of our time is between the Coalition of the Fringes Right and Left, with normies stuck in the mi

    Replies: @syonredux, @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus, @Corvinus

    with normies stuck in the middle, I meant to say.

  110. @Corvinus
    "Not the “Western Hemisphere as a whole,” dear fellow, just the Anglo-American part."

    No, the Western Hemisphere is included here, the context properly of where Anglo-Americans had settled.

    "Hear it all the time at conferences, dear fellow. The future looks quite bright for all things Anglo: Anglosphere, Anglo-America, White Anglo…"

    That doesn't meet the standard of proof on your part, and you know it. As a professor, you demand your students offer specific examples. You stated with conviction how "Anglo is becoming increasingly common in academia". Certainly if it is "hear it all the time at conferences", then you would have documentary evidence. So, in what specific ways is “White Anglo” become increasingly common in today’s academia? I’m sure you have particular data points to demonstrate clearly how this term is on the dramatic rise among universities and professors–liberal indoctrination mills–within the past two decades, right?

    "Surely you recall how the SJWs were rustled when Jeff Sessions uttered the dreaded phrase, “Anglo-American”..."

    Sessions is a product of his times and his heritage. I am aware that Anglo-American in the context of his speech refers to a common legal term. However, that term did not appear in his speech transcript. Furthermore, there are always certain buzz words or code words used to say something without saying something. It's called plausible deniability.

    "And the Latinx are a vital part of the Coalition of the Fringes……Again, Anglo-America vs. Latinx America….Mark Twain, Henry James, and Willa Cather vs Carlos Fuentes and Octavio Paz…."

    No, I'm afraid these comparisons just serve as fodder for the COTF. Feel free to entertain yourself. True literary connoisseurs appreciate different genres and authors, and need not put one group of classic authors against another group of classic authors, as you are doing, to simply score cultural points.

    As always, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

    Replies: @syonredux, @syonredux

    “Not the “Western Hemisphere as a whole,” dear fellow, just the Anglo-American part.”

    No, the Western Hemisphere is included here, the context properly of where Anglo-Americans had settled.

    But not in all of it, dear fellow. The Western Hemisphere is roughly tripartite in structure: Anglo-America, Latinx America , and Francophone America.

    “Hear it all the time at conferences, dear fellow. The future looks quite bright for all things Anglo: Anglosphere, Anglo-America, White Anglo…”

    That doesn’t meet the standard of proof on your part, and you know it. As a professor, you demand your students offer specific examples. You stated with conviction how “Anglo is becoming increasingly common in academia”. Certainly if it is “hear it all the time at conferences”, then you would have documentary evidence. So, in what specific ways is “White Anglo” become increasingly common in today’s academia? I’m sure you have particular data points to demonstrate clearly how this term is on the dramatic rise among universities and professors–liberal indoctrination mills–within the past two decades, right?

    I’m afraid that conferences and seminars are oral in nature, dear fellow……

    “Surely you recall how the SJWs were rustled when Jeff Sessions uttered the dreaded phrase, “Anglo-American”…”

    Sessions is a product of his times and his heritage. I am aware that Anglo-American in the context of his speech refers to a common legal term. However, that term did not appear in his speech transcript. Furthermore, there are always certain buzz words or code words used to say something without saying something. It’s called plausible deniability.

    Rather more than that, dear fellow:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-America

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Americans

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglosphere

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo

    “And the Latinx are a vital part of the Coalition of the Fringes……Again, Anglo-America vs. Latinx America….Mark Twain, Henry James, and Willa Cather vs Carlos Fuentes and Octavio Paz….”

    No, I’m afraid these comparisons just serve as fodder for the COTF. Feel free to entertain yourself. True literary connoisseurs appreciate different genres and authors, and need not put one group of classic authors against another group of classic authors, as you are doing, to simply score cultural points.

    You think that Carlos Fuentes and Octavio Paz are classic authors? Well, no accounting for taste…..

    As for appreciating non-Anglo authors, I’m all for it. My life has certainly been enriched by the work of Dante, Cervantes, Thomas Mann, Borges…..But, when all is said and done, and the battle is lost and won, Anglo lit is more important to Anglos than work composed in other, lesser, languages….

    As always, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

    Look at how the very word “Anglo” makes you quiver……

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @syonredux

    "The Western Hemisphere is roughly tripartite in structure: Anglo-America, Latinx America , and Francophone America."

    That is one way, but not THE way, of looking at it. Again, few people view it in this manner.



    "I’m afraid that conferences and seminars are oral in nature, dear fellow..."

    Just what I thought. Make a statement, requested to back it up, and like an SJW you backtrack. Not good enough here. One takes copious notes at such events, as well as even audio or visually recording them. One could then transcribe the exact sources as to how and why

    "You think that Carlos Fuentes and Octavio Paz are classic authors? Well, no accounting for taste…"

    Which is PERSONAL in nature. It would appear you are of the mindset that only group of authors--"Anglo-American"--are THE standard. If that be the case, you are merely offering an opinion.

    "Anglo lit is more important to Anglos than work composed in other, lesser, languages…"

    Again, an opinion.

    "We’ve always called it the Anglo-American Studies Group, and my students have all been quite enthusiastic about calling themselves “Anglo.”"

    Fantastic. An extremely small subset of our vast population agree with you on that terminology.

    "Look at how the very word “Anglo” makes you quiver…"

    Actually, it's my head shaking side to side as to your stubbornness to admit a simple fact--White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

  111. @Corvinus
    "Not the “Western Hemisphere as a whole,” dear fellow, just the Anglo-American part."

    No, the Western Hemisphere is included here, the context properly of where Anglo-Americans had settled.

    "Hear it all the time at conferences, dear fellow. The future looks quite bright for all things Anglo: Anglosphere, Anglo-America, White Anglo…"

    That doesn't meet the standard of proof on your part, and you know it. As a professor, you demand your students offer specific examples. You stated with conviction how "Anglo is becoming increasingly common in academia". Certainly if it is "hear it all the time at conferences", then you would have documentary evidence. So, in what specific ways is “White Anglo” become increasingly common in today’s academia? I’m sure you have particular data points to demonstrate clearly how this term is on the dramatic rise among universities and professors–liberal indoctrination mills–within the past two decades, right?

    "Surely you recall how the SJWs were rustled when Jeff Sessions uttered the dreaded phrase, “Anglo-American”..."

    Sessions is a product of his times and his heritage. I am aware that Anglo-American in the context of his speech refers to a common legal term. However, that term did not appear in his speech transcript. Furthermore, there are always certain buzz words or code words used to say something without saying something. It's called plausible deniability.

    "And the Latinx are a vital part of the Coalition of the Fringes……Again, Anglo-America vs. Latinx America….Mark Twain, Henry James, and Willa Cather vs Carlos Fuentes and Octavio Paz…."

    No, I'm afraid these comparisons just serve as fodder for the COTF. Feel free to entertain yourself. True literary connoisseurs appreciate different genres and authors, and need not put one group of classic authors against another group of classic authors, as you are doing, to simply score cultural points.

    As always, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

    Replies: @syonredux, @syonredux

    Incidentally, this little conversation has given me an idea for the next meeting of my campus covert conservative club. We’ve always called it the Anglo-American Studies Group, and my students have all been quite enthusiastic about calling themselves “Anglo.” But what if a preferable alternative can be found?

    It should be a fun night, not too serious. Some terms that I will offer: “Heritage American,” “Preamble American*,”Saxons, Anglians, Anglics, ……

    *Heartiste’s favorites

  112. @Anonymous
    http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/awards/oscars/frances-mcdormands-alleged-oscar-thief-has-been-arrested/news-story/64670836116215f598dbcac0e3a68619

    The Inclusion Rider rides off into the sunset with Frances McDormand's Oscar! My sides!

    Who was that masked man?

    I have two words for you. Inclusion Rider.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Love love love this little story. Obvious enough that the MSM had to cover it, but all ‘right-thinking’ publications in the USA included McDormand’s photo but not the Proud Hero’s. “Can’t imagine why..”

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/envelope/ct-frances-mcdormand-oscar-20180305-story.html

  113. @syonredux
    @Corvinus


    “Not the “Western Hemisphere as a whole,” dear fellow, just the Anglo-American part.”

    No, the Western Hemisphere is included here, the context properly of where Anglo-Americans had settled.
     

    But not in all of it, dear fellow. The Western Hemisphere is roughly tripartite in structure: Anglo-America, Latinx America , and Francophone America.

    “Hear it all the time at conferences, dear fellow. The future looks quite bright for all things Anglo: Anglosphere, Anglo-America, White Anglo…”

    That doesn’t meet the standard of proof on your part, and you know it. As a professor, you demand your students offer specific examples. You stated with conviction how “Anglo is becoming increasingly common in academia”. Certainly if it is “hear it all the time at conferences”, then you would have documentary evidence. So, in what specific ways is “White Anglo” become increasingly common in today’s academia? I’m sure you have particular data points to demonstrate clearly how this term is on the dramatic rise among universities and professors–liberal indoctrination mills–within the past two decades, right?
     

    I'm afraid that conferences and seminars are oral in nature, dear fellow......

    “Surely you recall how the SJWs were rustled when Jeff Sessions uttered the dreaded phrase, “Anglo-American”…”

    Sessions is a product of his times and his heritage. I am aware that Anglo-American in the context of his speech refers to a common legal term. However, that term did not appear in his speech transcript. Furthermore, there are always certain buzz words or code words used to say something without saying something. It’s called plausible deniability.
     

    Rather more than that, dear fellow:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-America

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Americans

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglosphere


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo


    “And the Latinx are a vital part of the Coalition of the Fringes……Again, Anglo-America vs. Latinx America….Mark Twain, Henry James, and Willa Cather vs Carlos Fuentes and Octavio Paz….”

    No, I’m afraid these comparisons just serve as fodder for the COTF. Feel free to entertain yourself. True literary connoisseurs appreciate different genres and authors, and need not put one group of classic authors against another group of classic authors, as you are doing, to simply score cultural points.
     

    You think that Carlos Fuentes and Octavio Paz are classic authors? Well, no accounting for taste.....


    As for appreciating non-Anglo authors, I'm all for it. My life has certainly been enriched by the work of Dante, Cervantes, Thomas Mann, Borges.....But, when all is said and done, and the battle is lost and won, Anglo lit is more important to Anglos than work composed in other, lesser, languages....


    As always, the fact remains that White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.
     
    Look at how the very word "Anglo" makes you quiver......

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “The Western Hemisphere is roughly tripartite in structure: Anglo-America, Latinx America , and Francophone America.”

    That is one way, but not THE way, of looking at it. Again, few people view it in this manner.

    “I’m afraid that conferences and seminars are oral in nature, dear fellow…”

    Just what I thought. Make a statement, requested to back it up, and like an SJW you backtrack. Not good enough here. One takes copious notes at such events, as well as even audio or visually recording them. One could then transcribe the exact sources as to how and why

    “You think that Carlos Fuentes and Octavio Paz are classic authors? Well, no accounting for taste…”

    Which is PERSONAL in nature. It would appear you are of the mindset that only group of authors–“Anglo-American”–are THE standard. If that be the case, you are merely offering an opinion.

    “Anglo lit is more important to Anglos than work composed in other, lesser, languages…”

    Again, an opinion.

    “We’ve always called it the Anglo-American Studies Group, and my students have all been quite enthusiastic about calling themselves “Anglo.””

    Fantastic. An extremely small subset of our vast population agree with you on that terminology.

    “Look at how the very word “Anglo” makes you quiver…”

    Actually, it’s my head shaking side to side as to your stubbornness to admit a simple fact–White Americans generally refer to themselves as White Americans, NOT Anglos.

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