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From the New York Times:

Netflix Loses Its Glow as Critics Target Chappelle Special

The comedian Dave Chappelle’s comments on transgender people and gender in “The Closer” have led to outside criticism and internal unrest at the company that upended Hollywood.

By John Koblin
Oct. 14, 2021

It was looking like a great year for Netflix. It surpassed 200 million subscribers, won 44 Emmys and gave the world “Squid Game,” a South Korean series that became a sensation.

That’s all changed. Internally, the tech company that revolutionized Hollywood is now in an uproar as employees challenge the executives responsible for its success and accuse the streaming service of facilitating the spread of hate speech and perhaps inciting violence.

At the center of the unrest is “The Closer,” the much-anticipated special from the Emmy-winning comedian Dave Chappelle, which debuted on Oct. 5 and was the fourth-most-watched program on Netflix in the United States on Thursday. In the show, Mr. Chappelle comments mockingly on transgender people and aligns himself with the author J.K. Rowling as “Team TERF,” an acronym for trans-exclusionary radical feminist, a term used for a group of people who argue that a transgender woman’s biological sex determines her gender and can’t be changed.

J.K. Rowling, author of the Harry Potter books, is the world’s best-selling writer. Dave Chappelle is, arguably, the top stand-up comic in America at present. Neither is a dreaded white man.

How insane is it that the fetishists in frocks who want to shut them up are treated by the press as the Good Guys Gals?

As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.

But nobody gets that.

 
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  1. “Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World’s Most Popular Entertainers?”

    I’d like an answer, please. Or at least a theory.

    • Agree: Thea
    • Replies: @JimB
    @JimDandy

    I think Steve’s theory is actually pretty good.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    , @aNewBanner
    @JimDandy

    Rowling and Chappelle have Influence. Some random Dude in a Dress (DIAD) has Power because they can sue their employer for creating a hostile workplace environment. Eventually, a judge, sympathetic to the DIAD, will rule in their favor and punish the DIAD’s employer with a huge fine that will be extracted by men with guns if necessary. The judge will be sympathetic toward the DIAD because the judge dreams the ‘Dream’ - the vision of one homogeneous blob of humanity, without differentiation or distinction, without joy or pain, without gain or loss, with labor or effort, all united by a tepid humanism and controlled by a bureau of experts. Basically, they (meaning most everyone of importance in the real halls of power) think that they are leading us toward the blissful world of Lennon’s “Imagine”, though it tends more towards the Borg in reality.

    Let’s take Netflix for example. They are caught between Power (the DIAD) and Influence (Chappelle). Power always beats Influence in the long run, so Netflix will cave in the long run. Chappelle probably thinks that he’s too big and too connected to be cancelled, but he’s not. (Obama isn’t big enough to avoid being cancelled if the right conditions align.) That means that he’ll be canceled, in some way shape, manner, or form. If he does realize that he’s in danger, Chappelle has three options to resist. First, he can find some other lesser power to oppose Power and try to grind Netflix between them. That won’t work. It will just push Netflix into the arms of Power (which is capitalized for a reason) and accelerate Chappelle’s cancellation. Second, he could attempt to overthrow the leadership of Netflix through some complicated strategy, legal or otherwise. This approach has little chance of success. Even if it does succeed, he’ll immediately need to turn to the third option. He can oppose Power directly with all of the Influence at his disposal. This is a winning strategy, if, and only if, there is a critical mass pushing in the same direction at the same time to create enough POWER to destroy Power. This is also a dangerous strategy. If he doesn’t succeed, then he will be crushed. (See Cosby, Bill.) If he does succeed in creating critical mass, then it needs to be harnessed into a safe, reliable form. We want a well controlled fission reaction in a steel lined pressure vessel, not Hiroshima.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Almost Missouri, @Sick 'n Tired, @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @Anonymous
    @JimDandy


    I’d like an answer, please. Or at least a theory.
     
    To understand political events, you have to understand how politics works.

    a) Politics is the career of politicians. They treat it as an income source, no more, no less. They will do anything to keep their income flowing.

    b) There are two components a democracy/republic elections:
    1) The general public.
    2) Paid voting blocks ("special interest groups") organized formerly by special economic or ideological interests, and now augmented by racial interests.

    c) The political game is to divide the general public so that their vote is split evenly, and cancels itself out except for random variations in exactly where the split holds. Let's say that the general public split is usually 52/48, a 4% swing. If a particular coalition of politicians controls a coalition of voting blocks that is larger than the 4% swing, that coalition can reliably win the election. This was true during the US Era of Good Feelings and is still true today.

    d) An alternate strategy of influencing the popular vote is also possible, and can succeed (e.g. FDR, Trump), but professional politicians regard this as dangerous to their incomes and generally oppose what they call "Populism", which is a "threat to Our Democracy" (and when professional pols say "Our Democracy", they are saying they own democracy.

    3) Turchin points out that, over time, elites grow faster than grows the income stream to politics (to elite status groups), even when a higher percentage of GDP is diverted to the supporting the elites. This breeds strife among the elites (some of whom are excluded from the elite category) and the general population (which sees its income decline). Eventually, some of the excluded elite (Trump, for example, or FDR again) try leading a "populist revolt" -- that is, they appeal to the general population for support.

    4) During such revolts, the elite establishment often tries a resort to totalitarianism, a sort of "Whip these dogs back to their kennels" approach. During this appeal, retaining the loyalty of the paid voting blocks that support the elite establishment (e.g. the Democratic Party and the anti-Trump wing of the Republican Party) is absolutely essential to the elite establishment's survival.

    5) Since retaining the loyalty of the paid voting blocks that support the elite establishment (e.g. the Democratic Party and the anti-Trump wing of the Republican Party) is absolutely essential. Accordingly, critical paid voting blocks can ask for almost anything and the elite establishment will try to give it to them. Does the Far Left want Antifa to rule CHAZ? OK, done. Does the political - industrial complex want 2 or 3 trillion dollars for useless hardware or patronage jobs? Done. It's a matter of survival.


    And that's what's happening.

    An establishment that has contorted itself enough to give special interest groups what they demand appears schizophrenic to the general population, and perhaps the appearance is the truth. Ordinarily, that is enough of an edge to give some group of excluded elite victory over the establishment.

    Note that the above is consistent with Orwell's "the High, the Middle, and the Low" essay, supposedly by Goldberg, in the book _1984_.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @AnotherDad
    @JimDandy


    “Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World’s Most Popular Entertainers?”

    I’d like an answer, please. Or at least a theory.
     
    This is straightforward: Minoritarianism.

    We've are ruled this morally inverted official dogma where the highest good is not the interest of the nation--i.e. its normal, healthy, productive people--reproducing itself, but rather the interests of sanctified "minorities".

    The trannies successfully attached themselves to that. And because trannies are the brand new "minority de jour", a tiny group themselves and because there is a bit of normie pushback there is an extra frisson to fighting the "oppression" of trannies. It's like the young men signing up in 1914. World War T is where the battle against evil reactionaries is right now! And people--especially narratively compliant young women--can demonstrate their exquisite virtue by "bravely" tweeting or cancelling the enemy.

    Replies: @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    , @Anon
    @JimDandy

    Because the entertainers are the last wave. This is the new wave.

    , @Cato
    @JimDandy

    Christianity: The meek shall inherit the earth; when slapped upside the face, turn the cheek. We expect to be judged by the way in which we treat the lowliest and the most despised, and so we go out of our way to treat the lowly and despised with compassion.

    The thought of transies causes most of us to shudder in revulsion -- they are the lepers now that lepers no longer exist. So we elevate them into the status of protected and nurtured objects.

    That is half the story. The other half (for M2F transies) has to do with a personality that wishes to be an alluring female but is full of testosterone rage. A personality always unhappy with itself that makes a lot of noise; a personality that makes demands. And those demands achieve compliance because of Christianity.

  2. Why are empires in terminal stage affected by money printing, looting, internal takeovers, and perversions of the mind and spirit?

    I don’t know – but they are!

    This time it’s a bit different because people are also suffering under extreme information overflow, whereas formerly they mostly suffered from lack of information.

    Meanwhile, fishy going-ons:

    Former Boeing test pilot charged for ‘deceiving regulators’ about 737 MAX safety, to ‘save money’ & not become fall guy

    Boeing’s former chief test pilot has been indicted for fraud, accused of lying to regulators about a safety problem with the 737 MAX that ultimately caused two fatal crashes, in what DOJ officials said was a bid to “save money.”

    Mark Forkner, 49, a chief technical pilot for the aerospace giant between 2014 and 2018, was charged on Thursday by a federal grand jury, according to the Department of Justice, which claimed he “deceived” the Federal Aviation Administration’s (FAA) Aircraft Evaluation Group about a particular system on the MAX, later determined to have led to a pair of crashes that took hundreds of lives.

    “In an attempt to save Boeing money, Forkner allegedly withheld critical information from regulators,” Acting US Attorney Chad Meacham said in a statement, adding that the DOJ “will not tolerate fraud – especially in industries where the stakes are so high.”

    • Agree: Jim Christian
  3. One might also argue their viciousness has a feminine character, if it’s true that women, forced through history to resort to non-violent means to destroy their enemies, such as gossip, shaming and ostracizing, have evolved better skills for them.
    I don’t necessarily buy this, but at least it would mean our new “girls” are getting the nasty part of femininity right.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Dennis Dale

    Many trannies and gay men (which trannies mostly are) combine the anger and promiscuity of the worst men with the petulance, self-righteousness, and backbiting of the worst women. It’s their special superpower.

    Replies: @Juvenalis, @Dennis Dale

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Dennis Dale

    That's true of effeminate homosexuals, but not this lot. As Steve points out, they are hypermasculine men who have a paraphilia, and they work out their paraphilia in a 100% masculine way: with dedication, teamwork, and controlled fury. Not terribly feminine, IMHO.

    Gay men's famous promiscuity is said to be a masculine characteristic. I disagree. It's female pickiness, but in a male body. Similarly gay men are bigger and better bitches than any woman can be, and that's saying a lot.

    Thing about gay men is that you can avoid them, although sometimes at a professional cost. You cannot avoid the regiment of dudes in dresses. They really are coming for you.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Dennis Dale

    , @Eric Novak
    @Dennis Dale

    Women have not been forced to use non-violent means to fight with other women. Steve’s thesis is that they’re not defending themselves with gossip, slander, and ostracizing-they’re using male threats of violence to shut down their opponents. Pay attention.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

    , @S. Anonyia
    @Dennis Dale

    These guys are not homosexual transgenders with feminine personalities, though. Those transgenders tend to go unnoticed and are less vocal. The types Steve is discussing are aggressive straight men with fetishes. There is nothing female about any aspect of their demeanor and they don’t remotely pass as women (to give an example of one transgender “woman” I know, they keep up their wargaming hobby after transition). They are not expressing feminine personality traits when they try to get people cancelled- they aren’t gossiping or crying or ostracizing others, they are shouting in people’s faces and implicitly or explicitly threatening violence. When they gather together to protest, people usually get beat up. Don’t forget that MtF transgenders formed a pretty large portion of Antifa’s shock troops during the summer of Floyd.

  4. Plenty have wormed their way into the tech industry. The Wachowskis and their work are a case study in the appeal of the abstract world of technology to these particular misfits. Big tech has had to worry about internal dissent as a result. (Though Netflix may be the first to put their foot down.) That’s one factor, at least.

    The trannies versus the blacks is the Godzilla vs. Kong of what passes for culture in this rotting empire.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Thomas

    Truly hoping that the new Matrix movie is an epic fail, although I like Mr. Reeves.

    Opening is December 2022.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @El Dato
    @Thomas


    Big tech has had to worry about internal dissent as a result.
     
    Isn't it mostly "Internet companies" that are disproportionately affected, or niche sectors like "gaming journalism"?

    I haven't heard about problems in companies designing bespoke circuit boards etc.

    Replies: @Thomas

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Thomas

    Plenty have wormed their way into the tech industry

    They aren't intruders, I would say the tech industry seems to foster that kind of tranny-ism. It is increasingly an issue in the SciFi community as well. Maybe hyper-imaginative creative men with poor social skills see transsexualism as some sort of refuge .

    Replies: @Thomas

  5. If there is going to be a war between the trannies and the Chappelle fans, I am going to get some popcorn and enjoy the spectacle.

  6. It may be that their power comes from institutional support rather than their combative nature. After all, they never had any power prior to 2013. Did they?
    If Dave Chappelle gets cancelled, that will manifest in the form of Netflix dropping him, other channels rejecting him, big tech suspending or deranking him. In a worst case scenario he may be debanked or have loonies picket his house, though I think his race will trump that for the time being.
    That doesn’t mean big business is driving this (alone). If they don’t go Woke enough, they get fleeced like Tesla the other day. Gotta pay the protection money or the grifters, media and academia go on the attack, and/or government changes regulations or breaks them up.
    It seems to me that there’s a delicate balance of power between these elite groups and that men in frocks, blacks, refugees etc. are tools and cudgels rather than actors.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @e
    @Nikolai Vladivostok

    If I understood what Chappelle said in his performance, he said this was his last w/ Netflix.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Nikolai Vladivostok


    That doesn’t mean big business is driving this (alone). If they don’t go Woke enough, they get fleeced like Tesla the other day.

     

    Or Target in 2010:



    Target apologizes for giving to group backing Emmer
  7. Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World’s Most Popular Entertainers?

    It’s because of the supply chain issues with tar and feathers.

  8. Being black and having eulogized Saint George “I cain’t breeve” Floyd might not save Chappelle.

    • Replies: @Catdompanj
    @AndrewR

    It could be George's first confirmed miracle.

    , @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia
    @AndrewR

    My hope is that Dave Chappelle, one of great comedic talents ever to come along, knows deep down there are parts of the Black thing that are really bad, including St. George.

    After all, he chooses to live in Ohio.

    But maybe it's too much to hope.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  9. ” employees challenge the executives responsible for its success ”

    That’s why communism doesn’t work.

  10. … ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.

    Nothing that a short helicopter ride can’t take care of.

  11. As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.

    Tranny Zoey Tur threatens to send Ben Shapiro home in an ambulance.

    • Replies: @Joe S.Walker
    @Daniel H

    Mr Jenner truly looks and behaves like a bullying asshole there.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    , @Half Canadian
    @Daniel H

    Threatening violence? What a masculine way to solve a problem.

  12. Criticism only from the usual crybullies and the mainstream media.

    Is it not even worth considering, not even conceivably possible, not even remotely plausible, that the Netflix CEO’s “doubling down” on his defense of Dave Chappelle is a net positive for the company? The dues-paying viewership might appreciate it, investors might see the big picture, talent might be grateful, maybe even a short-term boost if people are curious and tune into the offending program.

  13. It’s all a great big Monty Python sketch come to life, with John, Eric, Terry, Graham and Michael f*cking around in wigs and women’s clothing.

  14. It’s not just crazy individual transvestites pushing for this. There is a push from above for transgenderism, or it wouldn’t be happening.

    Also, there’s lots of transgenders in the entertainment and tech industries, from the Wachowskis to several others, and in politics as well. Some open, some not. So they have power in the industry and it’s a big issue for them. For reasons that are too long to explain here.

  15. Do not know.

    But the Matt Damons and Steven Kings of the world seem terrified of them enough to 0bey their every diktat. Strong mojo of some sort, I guess.

  16. It was looking like a great year for Netflix.

    Ahh, but then one of their most privileged pets strayed just a tiny bit from The Narrative and now ALL IS LOST!!!

  17. That’s all changed. Internally, the tech company that revolutionized Hollywood

    When did “tech company” become a description for a company that applies information technology to deliver services? Sure, they are writing Python scripts and possibly Rust management programs, are deploying and maintaining large-scale computing infrastructure (assembled in China) and are supplying some “grey literature” for other practitioners, but this does not make them a “tech company”, same as Walmart is not a “HVAC company”. I can’t buy “tech from Netflix”.

    “Team TERF,” an acronym for trans-exclusionary radical feminist, a term used for a group of people

    Coined by whom? By the transes. What marketing firm came up with that?

    I suspect there are well-paid Twitter influencers pushing transitivity, too.

  18. @JimDandy
    "Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World's Most Popular Entertainers?"

    I'd like an answer, please. Or at least a theory.

    Replies: @JimB, @aNewBanner, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Cato

    I think Steve’s theory is actually pretty good.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @JimB

    It's the ultimate anima possession.

  19. As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.

    Nah, just deny them a platform and its over. But they won’t do that.

    Like the Taliban allegedly threatening to flood the West with ‘refugees’, just don’t let them in dude, but that won’t happen either.

    It’s all part of the plan.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Gordo

    Good luck with the refusals once they’re over the border...

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/10/eu-faces-migrant-backlash-after-sanctioning-belarus.html#more

    Lots of familiarity here with the ancient Pythons of Britain. This sort of blowback smacks more of the usual outcome of one those “cunning plans” of Baldrick, clueless servant of Edmund Blackadder.

    https://youtu.be/ACnqI1l4I9s

    Replies: @undisclosed, @Gordo

  20. I think it’s a combination of their endless readiness to bitch and nag and look for someone to pick on, and the endless turnover of material that today’s media world demands. Suppose they gave a Twitter and nobody came?

  21. They’ve also hitched themselves on to the gay wagon. This is logical to the average person’s mind, but in fact for a long time the cross-dressing community insisted publicly that trans-ism and homosexuality were two different things. In 2005 Grayson Perry made a documentary for British TV called Why Men Wear Frocks, in which he visited and took part in a transvestite weekend gathering. He said “the vast majority of these men are completely heterosexual.” It wasn’t actually true, but that was still the party line then.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Joe S.Walker

    That sound exactly like an actual Python sketch -- but rather than dresses, surprise, they're furries.

    Python fandom says:

    On The World Around Us, Arthur Jackson (John Cleese) is interviewed about his wish to be a mouse and his activities with fellow people who feel this way, throwing parties where they eat cheese and squeak.

    A consultant psychiatrist, Kargol (Graham Chapman) and his assistant, Janet (Carol Cleveland) present findings that 8 percent of the population are mice and admits that he, too, has felt attracted to mice. He states that this is normal. It is then presented that Julius Caesar, Napoleon, and Hilaire Belloc were also mice.

    People on the street are then interviewed on how they would react to people who are known to be mice and a film of a mouse party is shown, narrated by Arthur Jackson.

    Curiously, "for some reason" (nudge nudge, wink wink) the video clip, unlike every other Python bit, is hard to find, but here's on with Spanish subtitles, for diversity points:

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2y1jou

  22. OT but Prince Willian is against billionaires in space:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10088619/Prince-William-slams-space-race.html

    His own helicopter fun after all was for the good of the plebs and not facilitated in any way by his grandmother being head of the air force.

    Does he really think the monarchy will long survive her passing? Canada and Australia will declare themselves republics within days.

    Does he think that his billions are cleaner because they were won with the battleaxe centuries ago?

    Does he think this global warming showboating will make the royals popular when they have not said one word against the dsipossession of the White working class?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Gordo

    The royal family owns 87 percent of the land of Canada. All but the 50 miles north of the US border is unusable 8 months of the year, but still, the royals own it. Australia is similar. Plus there is the alliance of the royal family, The City of London off shore banks in the British commonwealth Caribbean islands. Money is vastly more important than fancy clothes and ridiculous ceremonies.

    King George Guelph of Hanover George 1 the first King of England didn't win Britain by battleaxe and invasion. Although number 50 in the line of succession, he became King of England because numbers 1 through 48 in the line of succession were Roman Catholics and it was illegal to be a Roman Catholic in England at the time. His mother Sophia Guelph was number 49 and the first protestant in the line of succession. Sophia was a descendant of Elizabeth Stuart daughter of King James the first. Elizabeth and her husband, the Elector of Palatine were the couple responsible for starting the 30 years war. One of the most destructive wars in the blood drenched history of Europe. Their most famous son was Prince Rupert of the Rhine. Popularly known as Prince Rupert the Robber because of all the looting generals of the 30 years war, he looted the most money and treasures of all the looters of the 30 years war.

    Replies: @Curle

  23. “As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.”

    How many Navy Seals have you met? Because I have met and interacted with several dozen when I was in the Marines. Each of the two deployments I did my platoon was on the same ship as the Seal team (and a MC Force Recon platoon.)

    I found the Seals to be friendly, if understandably a bit aloof. They were not pushy, ignorant, or demanding. They did not use their status as elite warriors to gain favor or intimidate normal servicemen or start fights or any of those things we see tranny’s do on a regular basis.

    I think Steve is confusing obsessiveness with staunch discipline in his comparison. Not to mention the fact that tranny’s are mentally ill to some extent. The aggression that tranny’s exhibit is more along the lines of negro aggression: Uncontrolled and driven by emotion. It is enhanced by the lack of consequences directed towards them. The aggression Seals exhibit is calculated, controlled, and focused.

    In short, Steve needs to stop associating masculinity (a positive thing) with the deranged behavior of mentally ill perverts, and to a lesser extent, violent negro behavior.

    • Agree: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Mike Tre


    I found the Seals to be friendly, if understandably a bit aloof. They were not pushy, ignorant, or demanding. They did not use their status as elite warriors to gain favor or intimidate normal servicemen or start fights or any of those things we see tranny’s do on a regular basis.
     
    SEALS, like other Operators, are the quiet, unassuming guys sitiing in the back of the room, working out in their heads the best way to kill everyone else in the room if the need arises. Trannies should be so thoughtful.

    Replies: @BB753

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Mike Tre


    The aggression that tranny’s exhibit is more along the lines of negro aggression: Uncontrolled and driven by emotion.
     
    Not the masculine older "Ex-Men" trannies. One tactic they use is performative outrage and umbrage: “It’s Ma’am!” They know what they’re doing.

    The aggression Seals exhibit is calculated, controlled, and focused.
     
    Same with the masculine older shemales. They attempt to intimidate though performative histrionics and relentless aggression. It’s a calculated psyops tactic (and maybe physical tactic if challenged in person).

    In short, Steve needs to stop associating masculinity (a positive thing) with the deranged behavior of mentally ill perverts
     
    But Steve is right: Among "Ex-Men" faux filles there is a significant Venn intersection between “masculine” and “mentally ill perverts”, e.g. that classic clip of brute Zoey Tur threatening Ben Shapiro:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/why-do-fetishists-in-frocks-have-even-a-fighting-chance-of-cancelling-the-worlds-most-popular-entertainers/#comment-4955209

    , @Matt Buckalew
    @Mike Tre

    An important proviso to this: Steve is an extremely meek very tall man and he’s sensitive to this aspect of his personality. Steve is a nice man but because of his height he is a bit of a frustrated nice man.

    Now for the main part- Steve’s entire theory of trans behavior originated in the fact that one day when looking up the highest paid female executives he stumbled on the fact that the classroom bully of his business school- who was at the time male- was now the worlds highest paid “female” executive. Naturally Steve reflected back on his time at UCLA and no doubt the instances when a guy far shorter than him nonetheless wiped the floor Steve and presto a theory was born.

    Steve works a lot like Malcolm gladwell- Steve as mentioned above is nowhere as charismatic as the ex college jock Gladwell- but his process is similar. An interesting observation spawns a long term effort to erect a superstructure over an anecdote.

    Replies: @undisclosed, @Lurker

    , @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia
    @Mike Tre

    Steve can speak for himself, but I think he used the analogy to point out that the Fetishists in Frocks are vicious and deadly, not that they are focused and calm in operational planning meetings and polite standing in line for ice cream with their wives and kids the night before they deploy on a mission to wax some tribal nutjob.

    Let's not take it TOO literal.

  24. How insane is it that the fetishists in frocks who want to shut them up are treated by the press as the Good Guys Gals?

    Well, the press always treats the Frocked Ones as the Good Guys Gals when they are attacking any random straight man, so I’d say it is marginally less insane that the Frocked are still “Good” versus blacks and women, than if there were yet another permutation of the ever-evolving double-standards.

    But this is marginally less insane in an already deeply insane insane milieu, so it is questionable whether objective moral standards even apply anymore.

  25. Out with the old, in with the new!

    Question. How long does it take to cancel a superannuated civil rights pioneer?

    • Replies: @Altai
    @Polistra

    Woodson doesn't understand. Abstract support for freedom of speech only has appeal to those with marginalised speech and a very small cohort of people. The rich and the influential support freedom of speech when it helps speech they like more than it does speech they don't. When things reach an inflection point those same organisations will spend their time suppressing speech.

    See also this piece with the former head of the ACLU, Ira Glasser, who apparently can't understand what happened to the ACLU even as the piece makes clear his own love and work for the organisation was very much 'Who/Whom'.

    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/the-disintegration-of-the-aclu-james-kirchick

    What I suspect Woodson and Glasser find odd is that these new leaders are intent on provoking an ethnic conflict while they were happy to just disarm the core ethnic group. But once disarmed, rhetorically and of any validity of their collective interests the next step, endless attack by outgroup ethnocentrists was always assured. It was only a matter of time. Who was going to stop them?

    It's like if the Wehrmacht invaded Poland but somebody flipped a switch and suddenly the German army was full of soldiers who would absolutely never defend each other when they came under attack. They'd only fight back if directly attacked individually. How long do you think they'd last against a Polish army that did work together no matter how much they initially outnumbered and outgunned the Poles? That's the native populations of every Western European country (Except perhaps Denmark) and whites in the US.

    A thought experiment. How racist or violent would a non-white have to act towards white in a public setting before one white stood up for another in a clearly ethnocentric way?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @J.Ross
    @Polistra

    Answer. Has this old black man ever behaved like a cad with a lady, and has Gloria Allred been informed?

  26. To quote myself ….

    In the Olympiad of Suffering, it is, basically:

    Tranny privilege trumps Gay privilege.

    Gay privilege trumps black privilege.

    Black privilege trumps womyn privilege.

    Womyn privilege trumps Jew privilege.

    Jew privilege trumps Hispanic privilege.

    Hispanic privilege trumps white privilege.

    White privilege trumps Martian pri….

    Oops, there are no Martians…

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @Bardon Kaldian

    You have the hierarchy correct, Bardon. Two things to note:
    Where are Asians on the list?
    And - obvious opportunity for whites, hispanics, and asians to make a mutual self-defense pact against the rest. Most hispanics and asians are normal people who don't want to live with black crime and tranny delusions.

    Replies: @Eric Novak

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @Bardon Kaldian

    There sure are a lot of Trumps there. Apparently they Trump everything.


    https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/media:892bdb767a614dafb6c1043609ffccd3/3000.jpeg

    , @Daniel Chieh
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Tranny privilege trumps Gay privilege.
     
    One of the most amusing things I've ever seen was a tranny bully a lesbian into silence because the lesbian expressed an attraction to women; this is offensive to fake women, of course.

    It was a great example of your maxims here.

    Replies: @Jack D

  27. As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.

    It seems that sheer social testosterone carries the day. I don’t mean the individual chest-thumping kind, but the kind in which a person will not shut up about what they demand.

    Both the gun rights folks and the gay rights folks had it. And they got what they wanted.

  28. Dave Chappelle is both funny and a cool guy. And this is the long awaited battle of intersectional heavyweights. Black vs Trans. Chappelle won’t be missing any paychecks.

  29. As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.

    But nobody gets that.

    Everybody gets that and dismisses it just as soon as they do. It’s a factoid of modern living, the question is why is this absurdity promoted?

    Everyone knows it’s absolutely fucking crazy! We all do! I can’t express this enough: you aren’t covering new ground that no one even thought of, so out of bounds it’s like you mapped out a trajectory into the sun where humanity could be saved so long as it went through some vector that only you had calculated.

    Ok. Men who did lots of roids quite often go fucking spare and want to be fucked like bitches and demand everyone accept them as some common bar whore. So fucking what!?

    You’re nitpicking on our descent to hell, man!

    You’re calling out all the flavours of shit!

    You’re obsessed over a subject that’s so far off the main game you come across as some sort of confused rain man without his brother to guide him home.

    “Dave Chappelle is, arguably, the top stand-up comic in America at present. Neither is a dreaded white man.

    Clearly!

    Who are you trying to convince?

    It aint us!

    And if you have another audience in mind they aren’t reading!

    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
    @Pat Hannagan

    Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World's Most Popular Entertainers?

    Because your people won world war two.

    Why do the sons of our conquerors pose rhetorical questions about the morality of their victory and its consequences?

    Question for you: at what point did your world derail? What was the moment you realised things weren't tracking as you thought they would?

    What was the most glaringly shocking moment when you thought "Whoah! this isn't what (insert antiquated patriotic notion of race and nation) fought for!?"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1S6N9jUmmo

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan

  30. “The queers are protesting again…get a job, buttf—–ers.”

    —Comedian from 80s comedy special “Dirty, Dirty Jokes”

  31. @Pat Hannagan
    As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.

    But nobody gets that.

    Everybody gets that and dismisses it just as soon as they do. It's a factoid of modern living, the question is why is this absurdity promoted?

    Everyone knows it's absolutely fucking crazy! We all do! I can't express this enough: you aren't covering new ground that no one even thought of, so out of bounds it's like you mapped out a trajectory into the sun where humanity could be saved so long as it went through some vector that only you had calculated.

    Ok. Men who did lots of roids quite often go fucking spare and want to be fucked like bitches and demand everyone accept them as some common bar whore. So fucking what!?

    You're nitpicking on our descent to hell, man!

    You're calling out all the flavours of shit!

    You're obsessed over a subject that's so far off the main game you come across as some sort of confused rain man without his brother to guide him home.

    "Dave Chappelle is, arguably, the top stand-up comic in America at present. Neither is a dreaded white man.

    Clearly!

    Who are you trying to convince?

    It aint us!

    And if you have another audience in mind they aren't reading!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfE2Se4r9w

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan

    Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World’s Most Popular Entertainers?

    Because your people won world war two.

    Why do the sons of our conquerors pose rhetorical questions about the morality of their victory and its consequences?

    Question for you: at what point did your world derail? What was the moment you realised things weren’t tracking as you thought they would?

    What was the most glaringly shocking moment when you thought “Whoah! this isn’t what (insert antiquated patriotic notion of race and nation) fought for!?”

    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
    @Pat Hannagan

    It's a constant source of amazement to me that the greeatest englisch fanboiz are completely without XTC

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKkjdzLKajQ

    We need to coalesce over commonality without recriminations about how much americans destroyed their legacy

  32. It’s time to stop the woke nonsense. By giving in to the transgender movement, we are actually responsible for screwing up kids lives who should be encouraged to seek intense psychotherapy rather than hormone therapy & surgical mutilation for a psychological ailment. While we feel immensely sorry for those suffering from gender dysphoria, why is an entire society catering to a teeny tiny percentage of people suffering confusion about their gender. Gender dysphoria is akin to anorexia. Should we all stop eating in from of those suffering from anorexia? Fact is there are two genders, nothing changes our DNA, only those with the X Y chromosome can bear children. Why are 98% of the population expected to change what is basic biology?

    • Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel
    @Birdiegirl

    Western nations have been turning themselves inside out upside down for the sake of steadily smaller minorities going back since at least WWII. Blacks, jews, homosexuals and now trannies. One certified victim group is the exception - women - who are actually a majority.

  33. They attack like men but take umbrage like women.

  34. The weirdos are backed by people with billions and billions of dollars.

    There is a book called The Transgender Industrial Complex that goes into detail on this.

  35. “ So, I took her to my crib and everything went well as planned
    But when she got undressed, it was a big old mess, Sheena was a man
    So, I threw him out, I don’t fool around with no Oscar Meyer wiener
    You must be sure that the girl is pure for the Funky Cold Medina“

    Black men are disproportionately targeted for tranny surprises, so Chapelle is just sticking up for the brothers on this issue.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Ian Smith

    "Black men are disproportionately targeted for tranny surprises"

    Possibly unintentional fallout from the decades long media campaign to promote blek men as the ultimate MANifestation of masculinity. Trannies watch the same porn everyone else does, so why would they settle for some needle-dicked huwhite loser?

    Also, blek females are heavy on the testosterone as well (hence all the comments about Michelle Obama), so blek men are easier to fool.

    "so Chapelle is just sticking up for the brothers on this issue."

    Including fellow comedian Eddie Murphy.

    Replies: @Ian Smith

  36. As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.

    This is somewhat true, in this case the ridiculous purple-haired guy who got suspended and then reinstated (Who worked at a high level in very complicated and critical IT position, naturally) did seem to be silly enough that he got suspended. If he’d been a FTM he might have been treated with more kid gloves and never suspended at all. They’re good at starting fights and pushing limits but they need an audience who has sympathy with them to win.

    And I see a lot of TERFs online saying things like this.

    But the truth is if the only people they had to appeal to were men, they’d be sunk. It is women and young women in particular who form the deep ocean in which their arguments swim. I saw a comment on a clip where AOC used the term ‘people who menstruate’ in a debate about the Texas abortion law seemingly convinced MTF or men in general had pushed for such things when in reality it was FTMs who use terms like ‘people who menstruated’ to avoid the ‘dysphoria’ of people calling them women. And that such terms and ideas come from Gen Z social media.

    This is similar to Steve’s argument about Jewish second wave feminists projecting the relative patriarchy of their immigrant Jewish families (Which they resentfully compared to those of their gentile class peers) onto America as a whole because, ironically, that’s what they’d be taught at home, to resent the gentile society even as it held values and possibilities they coveted.

    Why do you think the term ‘TERF’ exists? Because the vast majority of people who identify as ‘feminist’ are the biggest boosters of pathological enabling of these peoples delusions, thinking it is kindness.

    Among liberal women it is primarily women who have a deep hatred or fear of men who are TERF (At least openly). To them the man who thinks he is a woman is just a man and they got into SocJus to hate them so why are we trying to be empathic and understanding to him? To them all this must be a result of patriarchy and not the lack of it. Gen Z/Y women have obtained enormous influence over society through social media and this is part of what they’ve wrought.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Altai


    Among liberal women it is primarily women who have a deep hatred or fear of men who are TERF (At least openly). To them the man who thinks he is a woman is just a man and they got into SocJus to hate them so why are we trying to be empathic and understanding to him? To them all this must be a result of patriarchy and not the lack of it. Gen Z/Y women have obtained enormous influence over society through social media and this is part of what they’ve wrought.
     
    I don't think this is correct - there seems to be a generational fracture where the younger feminists are "all in" on essentialist trans identity insofar as they will insist that a man can become a real living breathing girl like Pinocchio, and that anyone who becomes female by declaration and acclaim is entitled to all of the accoutrements of being a girl (i.e., tampons and pap smears and dominating biological women in contact sports).

    The early Gen-X and older feminists seem to be the ones more disposed to calling bullshit on the whole thing - they seem to see MtF trans as men exploiting a loophole in order to encroach upon social capital and authority that was hard won by them.

    There are also lesbians (lots of overlap with radical feminists) who object to an essentialist MtF trans identity (i.e., trans women are real women) because it seems like a subset of MtF trans are really horny male lesbian porn enthusiasts who utilize the social pressure of the Alphabet regime in order to pressure actual female lesbians into dating/having sex with them. The gambit goes "if you're a lesbian and you won't have sex with a trans woman you're a bigot because you are erasing the "existence" of the trans woman (viz, you don't really believe that it's a real girl).

    IIRC, "TERF" was originally the self-selected moniker of actually extreme, radical feminists who sought to exclude "trans women" from feminism and the LGBTQ and sometimes Y community, but subsequently "TERF" came to be used as a pejorative against anyone on the left who doesn't accept essentialist trans identity regardless of the extent of their lesbian bone fides.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @El Dato, @Intelligent Dasein

  37. I have often wondered this – even the campus outrage mobs would go away if the institution in question basically told them to pound sand, took the 15 minutes of hate, and then just went about business as usual. Obviously there are executives/administrators that actually are all in on the concept of punishing the insufficiently woke, but at the end of the day signaling to your employees or clients that you will succumb to whatever the woke mob demands is going to create a much worse workplace and drive away talent.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @Arclight

    The outrage mob will not go away. First, the tech masters are terrified of their employees. Second, the employees have most of the power: social media, legacy media, the law, and other power centers will be aligned with the cancel culture. After all, what is more hostile working environment than having Dave Chappelle make jokes about trannies? Seriously that's a huge violation of employment law as defined by various bureaucracies. Laws are made by regulatory bodies, and they move ever more hard left. The tech masters are not stupid -- they have lots and lots of lawyers advising them as to what is what. Stupid people don't elbow out all the other grifters to be first in line at the gravy train.

    And there is really no cost at all to canceling Chappelle which is what will happen. If he'd been Bill Burr he'd already be gone, but being black while protective armor is not protective enough.

    Power is defined and given to mostly young(ish) White women who are of course, always and forever hard, hard left. Defined by their hatred of 95% of all (White) men, embrace of every weirdo and freak, and wanting a matriarchal society. There are a variety of reasons for this but suffice it to say our ancestors were well aware of the nature of women and thus suppressed them for this reason.

    Netflix does not make money off subscribers. They don't really care about how many subscribe, how many renew, and turnover. They make money off: A. stupid investors mostly hedge funds pouring money in; B. various back-door government subsidies to enable their propaganda. C. various back-door payouts "netflix-washed" to give say the Obamas $200 million for "series."

    If Netflix were interested in making money off subscribers they'd act differently. They'd create their own "universe" of company owned and created properties that all interacted with each other and appealed to the broadest possible audience and was serial in nature and as addictive as possible to get people hooked on the next episode. That however is hard, requires scouting and signing talent, operational excellence: cost of production low, pace of production high. And many other things that no one in Hollywood can do. Instead they basically just grift like Facebook, Twitter, etc. Selling your usage data is a big part of their business model. A lot more than your subscription fees.

  38. It’s the latest battleground chosen by the anti-Christian anti-Western Civ left in the culture war. They are stalemated on the abortion front, losing on the gun front but clear victors on the gay front. So, they press on, looking for an issue that will make them look the moral superiors of those icky Christians. What wedge issue will divide Christians and make them look old, angry and out of touch? Trans.
    It antagonizes the Boomers and seems harmless fun. Just wear some makeup or a dress like Harry Styles. Just say you are non-binary and demand to be called ze/zim. Force your opponent to admit there are five lights.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Zpaladin

    If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. As it were.

  39. @Pat Hannagan
    @Pat Hannagan

    Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World's Most Popular Entertainers?

    Because your people won world war two.

    Why do the sons of our conquerors pose rhetorical questions about the morality of their victory and its consequences?

    Question for you: at what point did your world derail? What was the moment you realised things weren't tracking as you thought they would?

    What was the most glaringly shocking moment when you thought "Whoah! this isn't what (insert antiquated patriotic notion of race and nation) fought for!?"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1S6N9jUmmo

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan

    It’s a constant source of amazement to me that the greeatest englisch fanboiz are completely without XTC

    We need to coalesce over commonality without recriminations about how much americans destroyed their legacy

  40. Chappelle is opening a comedy club in nearby Yellow Springs, Ohio, which may turn that sleepy hipster enclave into the next Austin or Boise as refugees pour out of California. I saw bearded ladies and tranz-men in Yellow Springs 50 years ago, so he may inadvertently be promoting the bohemian lifestyle that he cruelly mocks in his show. My weed connection, an aging hippie from Yellow Springs who served time in the Big House back in the 70s for dealing, is concerned that real estate prices have already surged in the village.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Elmer T. Jones

    Which liberal abolitionist Ohio college are Dave Chappelle's parents associated with? Antioch? Oberlin?

    When the brilliant black guy who is the most distinguished scion of almost 200 years of extremely progressive culture thinks you are nuts, you are nuts.

    Replies: @New Dealer, @Paperback Writer, @Jack D, @Curle, @Corvinus, @Anon

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Elmer T. Jones

    Maybe the key to survival (I mean, of your family, not just you) if you're not Amish or Hasidic is to find bohemian enclaves that have not yet been discovered by the famous. Boho enclaves are, let's face it, pleasant and tend to attract smart people who, underneath it all, know the score. They want good schools and functional businesses.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    , @e
    @Elmer T. Jones

    He spoke of his hippie town in Ohio in this Netflix presentation.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Elmer T. Jones


    Yellow Springs, Ohio, which may turn that sleepy hipster enclave into the next Austin or Boise as refugees pour out of California.
     
    Greater Xenia? ... I don't think so.

    Replies: @Elmer T. Jones

    , @Paul Jolliffe
    @Elmer T. Jones

    Might you have been in Yellow Springs in 1957/58, and/or did you ever spend time as a student at Antioch College?
    (Or know anyone who was there then?)

  41. “Fetishists in Frocks” , very nice. The truth hurts.

    I’d rather see them in frocks then bikinis.

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @mc23

    Avoid The Daily Mail.

    Replies: @Polistra

    , @Bill Jones
    @mc23

    Burkas were invented for a reason.

  42. @Altai

    As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.
     
    This is somewhat true, in this case the ridiculous purple-haired guy who got suspended and then reinstated (Who worked at a high level in very complicated and critical IT position, naturally) did seem to be silly enough that he got suspended. If he'd been a FTM he might have been treated with more kid gloves and never suspended at all. They're good at starting fights and pushing limits but they need an audience who has sympathy with them to win.

    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fheavy.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2021%2F10%2Fterra-field.jpg

    And I see a lot of TERFs online saying things like this.

    https://no-cookie.kiwifarms.net/data/attachments/2626/2626701-a6859881208e5afd1a2271dc70d64f05.jpg

    But the truth is if the only people they had to appeal to were men, they'd be sunk. It is women and young women in particular who form the deep ocean in which their arguments swim. I saw a comment on a clip where AOC used the term 'people who menstruate' in a debate about the Texas abortion law seemingly convinced MTF or men in general had pushed for such things when in reality it was FTMs who use terms like 'people who menstruated' to avoid the 'dysphoria' of people calling them women. And that such terms and ideas come from Gen Z social media.

    This is similar to Steve's argument about Jewish second wave feminists projecting the relative patriarchy of their immigrant Jewish families (Which they resentfully compared to those of their gentile class peers) onto America as a whole because, ironically, that's what they'd be taught at home, to resent the gentile society even as it held values and possibilities they coveted.

    Why do you think the term 'TERF' exists? Because the vast majority of people who identify as 'feminist' are the biggest boosters of pathological enabling of these peoples delusions, thinking it is kindness.

    Among liberal women it is primarily women who have a deep hatred or fear of men who are TERF (At least openly). To them the man who thinks he is a woman is just a man and they got into SocJus to hate them so why are we trying to be empathic and understanding to him? To them all this must be a result of patriarchy and not the lack of it. Gen Z/Y women have obtained enormous influence over society through social media and this is part of what they've wrought.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    Among liberal women it is primarily women who have a deep hatred or fear of men who are TERF (At least openly). To them the man who thinks he is a woman is just a man and they got into SocJus to hate them so why are we trying to be empathic and understanding to him? To them all this must be a result of patriarchy and not the lack of it. Gen Z/Y women have obtained enormous influence over society through social media and this is part of what they’ve wrought.

    I don’t think this is correct – there seems to be a generational fracture where the younger feminists are “all in” on essentialist trans identity insofar as they will insist that a man can become a real living breathing girl like Pinocchio, and that anyone who becomes female by declaration and acclaim is entitled to all of the accoutrements of being a girl (i.e., tampons and pap smears and dominating biological women in contact sports).

    The early Gen-X and older feminists seem to be the ones more disposed to calling bullshit on the whole thing – they seem to see MtF trans as men exploiting a loophole in order to encroach upon social capital and authority that was hard won by them.

    There are also lesbians (lots of overlap with radical feminists) who object to an essentialist MtF trans identity (i.e., trans women are real women) because it seems like a subset of MtF trans are really horny male lesbian porn enthusiasts who utilize the social pressure of the Alphabet regime in order to pressure actual female lesbians into dating/having sex with them. The gambit goes “if you’re a lesbian and you won’t have sex with a trans woman you’re a bigot because you are erasing the “existence” of the trans woman (viz, you don’t really believe that it’s a real girl).

    IIRC, “TERF” was originally the self-selected moniker of actually extreme, radical feminists who sought to exclude “trans women” from feminism and the LGBTQ and sometimes Y community, but subsequently “TERF” came to be used as a pejorative against anyone on the left who doesn’t accept essentialist trans identity regardless of the extent of their lesbian bone fides.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    J.K. Rowling is a pretty sensible woman.

    , @El Dato
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)

    When did "erasing" enter the vocabulary? And why?

    Nobody has been sent to a soap factory, and it's not really a replacement for "aggressively ignoring", at least I don't think it is.

    https://i.postimg.cc/020kGzLP/eraserhead-still2.jpg

    , @Intelligent Dasein
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)


    There are also lesbians (lots of overlap with radical feminists) who object to an essentialist MtF trans identity (i.e., trans women are real women)
     
    Your use of the word 'essentialist' here is a travesty. I mean, it is utterly, completely, and 100% the opposite of the word's actual meaning. You should have said a positivist trans identity.

    This is important in this day and age, since real essentialism is the antidote to all the trans insanity. An essentialist would hold that each individual's sexual nature is inherent in their soul (i.e. the substantial form of their body), and that this immaterial quality is prior to all biological distinctions and is indeed itself what makes the biological distinctions, and that any apparent contradictions to this scheme are the result of defects on the material side, not of something qualitatively different in essence.

    Thus, even in the most extreme cases (e.g. ambiguous genitalia, missing genitalia, chromosomal abnormalities, etc.), each individual person is essentially male or female, they are exactly one of these, and there is no third possibility.

    The essentialist's claim of sexual realism is much stronger than the so-called "biological" realism one meets with around here. Biology, being at its best the classification of the sensible aspects of living things, is powerless to supply a corrective when those aspects are themselves ambiguous. For all biology can say, an XXY person really is a third sex. Essentialism would say that this person is essentially a male or a female with a material defect in ploidy.

    Of course, I have also argued elsewhere that race is an essential property, that it belongs to the immaterial side of life, and that this claim is much stronger than the silly "biological" race-realism of HBD. That point was not well understood, but this one should be quite a bit more obvious.

    Replies: @Eugene Norman, @Johnny Rico

  43. @Dennis Dale
    One might also argue their viciousness has a feminine character, if it's true that women, forced through history to resort to non-violent means to destroy their enemies, such as gossip, shaming and ostracizing, have evolved better skills for them.
    I don't necessarily buy this, but at least it would mean our new "girls" are getting the nasty part of femininity right.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Paperback Writer, @Eric Novak, @S. Anonyia

    Many trannies and gay men (which trannies mostly are) combine the anger and promiscuity of the worst men with the petulance, self-righteousness, and backbiting of the worst women. It’s their special superpower.

    • Replies: @Juvenalis
    @Wilkey


    Many trannies and gay men (which trannies mostly are)
     
    Not even remotely close to true; a mathematically absurd suggestion on its face. Among MtF Trans, Homosexual Transsexuals make up an infinitesimally tiny <0.05% microscopic sub-minority of the tiny 2-3% minority population of homosexual males.

    Homosexual Transsexualism is first evident in early childhood. However, even among the ~0.05% of naturally feminine boys that can be diagnosed with Childhood Onset Gender Dysphoria, if left alone, ~85% (73-98%) will naturally desist to accept their birth sex upon puberty, and live most likely as homo/bisexual men.* Adult gay men do not just suddenly turn trans. Homosexual Trans are extremely rare.

    An estimated 2.8-3.2% of all adolescent and adult heterosexual males experience some degree of autogynephilia. More than 90% of all Transsexuals are Nonhomosexual-type, i.e. fetishistic Autogynephilic Transsexualism, which manifests at or after puberty. A male cannot be autogynephilic if he is not first gynephilic.

    *See, e.g.


    «The literature on gender dysphoric children shows gender dysphoria in childhood does not result in gender dysphoria or GID in adolescence and adulthood. Feelings of gender dysphoria persisted into adolescence in only 39 of 246 of the children (15.8%) who were investigated in a number of prospective follow-up studies (Bakwin, 1968; Davenport, 1986; Drummond, Bradley, Peterson-Badali & Zucker, 2008; Green, 1987; Kosky, 1987; Lebovitz, 1972; Money & Ruso, 1979; Wallien & Cohen-Kettenis, 2008; Zucker & Bradley, 1995; Zuger, 1984). Although persistence rates differed between various studies (2% to 27%), the results unequivocally showed gender dysphoria remitted after puberty in the vast majority of children...»

    [Steensma, T. D., Biemond, R., de Boer, F., & Cohen-Kettenis, P. T. (2011). Desisting and persisting gender dysphoria after childhood: A qualitative follow-up study. Clinical Child Psychology and Psychiatry, 16(4), 499–516. DOI: 10.1177/1359104510378303]
     

    Replies: @Kratoklastes, @Stan Adams

    , @Dennis Dale
    @Wilkey

    this is what I'm thinking

  44. Netflix Loses Its Glow as Critics Target Chappelle Special

    But Netflix didn’t lose any viewers or subscribers or money, or the NYT would have said so, repeatedly.

    • Agree: Barbarossa, Kratoklastes
  45. Chappelle should have killed someone instead of criticizing trannies. THAT is forgivable.

    • Replies: @raga10
    @Jack D


    Chappelle should have killed someone instead of criticizing trannies. THAT is forgivable.

     

    Isn't that precisely his point? Doesn't he have one routine where he says that some guy shot another black and that did nothing to harm his career, but god forbid someone insulted a tranny?

    I'm not especially sympathetic towards Chappelle - the whole point of his routine seems to be that trannies made rapid progress towards acceptance and status while blacks languish. Which is not neccessarily true in the first place, and it completely ignores the fact that some blacks and other minorities ARE also trannies. It is ridiculous to conflate that particular affliction with whiteness only.

    He says that he's jealous of them; I think that's it, exactly.

  46. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Altai


    Among liberal women it is primarily women who have a deep hatred or fear of men who are TERF (At least openly). To them the man who thinks he is a woman is just a man and they got into SocJus to hate them so why are we trying to be empathic and understanding to him? To them all this must be a result of patriarchy and not the lack of it. Gen Z/Y women have obtained enormous influence over society through social media and this is part of what they’ve wrought.
     
    I don't think this is correct - there seems to be a generational fracture where the younger feminists are "all in" on essentialist trans identity insofar as they will insist that a man can become a real living breathing girl like Pinocchio, and that anyone who becomes female by declaration and acclaim is entitled to all of the accoutrements of being a girl (i.e., tampons and pap smears and dominating biological women in contact sports).

    The early Gen-X and older feminists seem to be the ones more disposed to calling bullshit on the whole thing - they seem to see MtF trans as men exploiting a loophole in order to encroach upon social capital and authority that was hard won by them.

    There are also lesbians (lots of overlap with radical feminists) who object to an essentialist MtF trans identity (i.e., trans women are real women) because it seems like a subset of MtF trans are really horny male lesbian porn enthusiasts who utilize the social pressure of the Alphabet regime in order to pressure actual female lesbians into dating/having sex with them. The gambit goes "if you're a lesbian and you won't have sex with a trans woman you're a bigot because you are erasing the "existence" of the trans woman (viz, you don't really believe that it's a real girl).

    IIRC, "TERF" was originally the self-selected moniker of actually extreme, radical feminists who sought to exclude "trans women" from feminism and the LGBTQ and sometimes Y community, but subsequently "TERF" came to be used as a pejorative against anyone on the left who doesn't accept essentialist trans identity regardless of the extent of their lesbian bone fides.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @El Dato, @Intelligent Dasein

    J.K. Rowling is a pretty sensible woman.

  47. Conservative MP who was prominent Brexiteer and trans-skeptic (And general anti-LGBT) stabbed several times today. Was he stabbed by an immigrant who felt personally attacked by Brexit (And egged on by a hysterical media) or was he stabbed by a MTF or was he stabbed by a gay man? (And egged on by a hysterical social media)

    https://www.rt.com/uk/537586-uk-mp-david-amess-stabbed-church/

    BBC still hasn’t reported it, others are saying a ‘man’ stabbed him. But perhaps like so many MTF, he just didn’t pass.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Altai

    I think when the deputy leader of the Parliamentary Labour Party describes Conservatives as "scum" - and keeps her job - it encourages such things. This was less than a month ago.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/26/angela-rayner-stands-by-remarks-calling-tories-scum


    Angela Rayner has stood by her description of the Conservatives as “homophobic, racist, misogynistic … scum” after the Labour leader distanced himself from her words.
     
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Altai

    He's died.


    14:30
    Counter-terror police assisting investigation
    Vikram Dodd

    The Guardian understands counter-terrorism police are assisting the investigation into the stabbing, which continues to be led by the local force, Essex police.

    Senior counter-terrorism officials are closely monitoring the situation and are being updated on emerging details of the attack and the suspect, who is in custody. They usually stay involved in such an investigation until a non-terrorist motive is identified
     

    Friday is traditional Islamist terror day, but it could just be that he was targeted and that happened to be his day for meeting constituents.

    The tweeter, a Welsh Nationalist, used to be a Police and Crime Commissioner (a civilian oversight post)


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBv2AlvXEAE950K.jpg

    Replies: @Rob McX, @J.Ross

    , @Graham
    @Altai

    He has died. The murderer was a 25-year-old Somali. RIP.

    , @Obstinate Cymric
    @Altai

    https://i.postimg.cc/hv3vvLGm/aand.jpg

  48. @Elmer T. Jones
    Chappelle is opening a comedy club in nearby Yellow Springs, Ohio, which may turn that sleepy hipster enclave into the next Austin or Boise as refugees pour out of California. I saw bearded ladies and tranz-men in Yellow Springs 50 years ago, so he may inadvertently be promoting the bohemian lifestyle that he cruelly mocks in his show. My weed connection, an aging hippie from Yellow Springs who served time in the Big House back in the 70s for dealing, is concerned that real estate prices have already surged in the village.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Paperback Writer, @e, @AnotherDad, @Paul Jolliffe

    Which liberal abolitionist Ohio college are Dave Chappelle’s parents associated with? Antioch? Oberlin?

    When the brilliant black guy who is the most distinguished scion of almost 200 years of extremely progressive culture thinks you are nuts, you are nuts.

    • Replies: @New Dealer
    @Steve Sailer

    Yellow Springs is Antioch College. Has a fascinating history. "It was the third college in the country to admit African-American students on an equal basis with whites." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioch_College

    If transwomen ARE women, there would be no need to “celebrate” them with prominent insertion into media representations of society. Images of just women would be sufficient. The portrayal is necessarily of someone who is not a female pretending that he is a female, accompanied by various social reactions to that pretense.

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Steve Sailer

    There is Wikipedia.

    , @Jack D
    @Steve Sailer

    RBG thought that football knee-takers were nuts, but the Overton Window of nuttiness travels to the left on greased rails at the speed of a shinkansen so it's hard for older people to keep up.

    There was recently a piece saying that Katie Kouric had covered up for RBG.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10088027/Katie-Couric-admits-editing-Ruth-Bader-Ginsburg-interview-protect-late-justice.html

    In an interview, RBG had said something that would have caused her to be cancelled (to the extent that you can cancel an appointed for life Justice) to the effect that football players who took the knee were being stupid and ungrateful because America had granted them untold riches vs. the grass hut they would have been living in back in Africa. Kouric attributed this to her senility and left it out of the broadcast. She also forget to tell her viewers that the Justice was senile. I'm sure she would have done the same for an elderly white male conservative Justice (sarc). I guess we'll get to read about Joe Biden's senility while in the White House maybe 2 or 3 years after his death.

    , @Curle
    @Steve Sailer

    Funny sexual trait ‘spectrum’ graph posted at West Hunter.










    https://westhunt.files.wordpress.com/2021/08/spectrum-1.png

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    “How insane is it that the fetishists in frocks who want to shut them up are treated by the press as the Good Guys Gals?”

    Try a more nuanced approach next time.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/10/dave-chappelle-the-closer/620364/

    We can’t say who the Bad Art Friend is, and we shouldn’t try to resolve The Closer into a simple story of victim and bully. First, because that appears to be the frame Chappelle wants, a funny guy defying the morality police, and the morality police will never win when they’re wagging fingers while he is making jokes. But also because any attempt to reduce the Chappelle story to a wealthy comedian attacking a marginalized community has to consider the show’s final section, which highlights the hypocrisy of those same critics. The story of Daphne Dorman, a trans woman who defended Chappelle online after the backlash to Sticks and Stones, ends with her being dragged on Twitter and her death by suicide. (Though Chappelle acknowledges that he doesn’t know what else was happening in her life, he insinuates a connection. “I bet dragging her didn’t help,” he says.) The special ends with Chappelle saying that Dorman was part of the same minority group as him: “my people”—comedians. He’s had enough of the “punching down.”

    , @Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    His father taught some kind of Crapology at Oberlin and got some affirmative action promotions. Divorced parents when he was very young. Dave lived in crime ridden black Washington DC with Mom Dave spent summers school holidays with Dad in peaceful small town Ohio. Loved it because of the contrast with ghetto DC. Raising his kids on a farm near Yellow Springs.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

  49. It’s all part of the deranged idolatry of the self that has taken root in Western culture since the 1960s. Gender bending–i.e., biological reality–is the last frontier on the Long March to unmoor the self permanently from any kind of restraints.

    Of course Dave Chappelle has to go. Transgenderism isn’t some side issue for obsessive ex SEALs or bodybuilders, it’s the endpoint of the logic of modernity. Anyone who insists that restraints exist must be eliminated.

    The result of all of this is going to be a lot of wrecked, destroyed humans.

    • Agree: BB753, Charlotte
    • Replies: @BB753
    @Nimrod

    Transgenderism can only be understood as a form of transhumanism.

  50. OT – NY Times gives favorable review to play The Lehman Trilogy, which traces the life of the Lehman Brothers, Chaim, Mayer and Emmanuel (left to right):

    That milkman was always hangin’ around the back door but Papa Lehman said don’t pay it no mind.

  51. Male aggression + female narcissism =

    • LOL: fish
  52. @JimDandy
    "Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World's Most Popular Entertainers?"

    I'd like an answer, please. Or at least a theory.

    Replies: @JimB, @aNewBanner, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Cato

    Rowling and Chappelle have Influence. Some random Dude in a Dress (DIAD) has Power because they can sue their employer for creating a hostile workplace environment. Eventually, a judge, sympathetic to the DIAD, will rule in their favor and punish the DIAD’s employer with a huge fine that will be extracted by men with guns if necessary. The judge will be sympathetic toward the DIAD because the judge dreams the ‘Dream’ – the vision of one homogeneous blob of humanity, without differentiation or distinction, without joy or pain, without gain or loss, with labor or effort, all united by a tepid humanism and controlled by a bureau of experts. Basically, they (meaning most everyone of importance in the real halls of power) think that they are leading us toward the blissful world of Lennon’s “Imagine”, though it tends more towards the Borg in reality.

    Let’s take Netflix for example. They are caught between Power (the DIAD) and Influence (Chappelle). Power always beats Influence in the long run, so Netflix will cave in the long run. Chappelle probably thinks that he’s too big and too connected to be cancelled, but he’s not. (Obama isn’t big enough to avoid being cancelled if the right conditions align.) That means that he’ll be canceled, in some way shape, manner, or form. If he does realize that he’s in danger, Chappelle has three options to resist. First, he can find some other lesser power to oppose Power and try to grind Netflix between them. That won’t work. It will just push Netflix into the arms of Power (which is capitalized for a reason) and accelerate Chappelle’s cancellation. Second, he could attempt to overthrow the leadership of Netflix through some complicated strategy, legal or otherwise. This approach has little chance of success. Even if it does succeed, he’ll immediately need to turn to the third option. He can oppose Power directly with all of the Influence at his disposal. This is a winning strategy, if, and only if, there is a critical mass pushing in the same direction at the same time to create enough POWER to destroy Power. This is also a dangerous strategy. If he doesn’t succeed, then he will be crushed. (See Cosby, Bill.) If he does succeed in creating critical mass, then it needs to be harnessed into a safe, reliable form. We want a well controlled fission reaction in a steel lined pressure vessel, not Hiroshima.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @aNewBanner

    Thanks. Makes a lot of sense. I think there are genuine Titans of the Universe behind this mess, starting with Billionaire "Jennifer" Pritzger, and others of "her" stature.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @aNewBanner


    He can oppose Power directly with all of the Influence at his disposal. This is a winning strategy, if, and only if, there is a critical mass pushing in the same direction at the same time to create enough POWER to destroy Power. This is also a dangerous strategy. If he doesn’t succeed, then he will be crushed. (See Cosby, Bill.)
     
    Nicki Minaj seems to be managing pretty well despite refusing to take the holy vax baptism.
    , @Sick 'n Tired
    @aNewBanner

    Dave pointed out in one of his specials that he doesn't care about being cancelled, because he's rich, so even if he never does another stand up show, he'll still be able to eat. He's also smart enough to know if Netflix doesn't offer him another deal, he'll still have his massive fan base who will pay to see him, and he doesn't need a network to put out his specials, he could film his act and sell it thru his website for $5-10 like Louis C.K did. All this controversy does is give him more exposure and solidify his fanbase even more.

    Bill Cosby was crushed because he was drugging and raping a bunch of women, not because of some truthful jokes he made. In fact Bill Cosby is currently out of prison and enjoying his freedom.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @aNewBanner


    Basically, they (meaning most everyone of importance in the real halls of power) think that they are leading us toward the blissful world of Lennon’s “Imagine”, though it tends more towards the Borg in reality.
     
    My bet is on a future like THX-1138:

    https://youtu.be/U0YkPnwoYyE
  53. @Dennis Dale
    One might also argue their viciousness has a feminine character, if it's true that women, forced through history to resort to non-violent means to destroy their enemies, such as gossip, shaming and ostracizing, have evolved better skills for them.
    I don't necessarily buy this, but at least it would mean our new "girls" are getting the nasty part of femininity right.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Paperback Writer, @Eric Novak, @S. Anonyia

    That’s true of effeminate homosexuals, but not this lot. As Steve points out, they are hypermasculine men who have a paraphilia, and they work out their paraphilia in a 100% masculine way: with dedication, teamwork, and controlled fury. Not terribly feminine, IMHO.

    Gay men’s famous promiscuity is said to be a masculine characteristic. I disagree. It’s female pickiness, but in a male body. Similarly gay men are bigger and better bitches than any woman can be, and that’s saying a lot.

    Thing about gay men is that you can avoid them, although sometimes at a professional cost. You cannot avoid the regiment of dudes in dresses. They really are coming for you.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Paperback Writer

    "Gay men’s famous promiscuity is said to be a masculine characteristic. I disagree. It’s female pickiness, but in a male body."

    If gay men were as "picky" as women are, Aids would never have been a thing, and neither would STIs be as far through the roof as they are. Very few heterosexual men can clock up the sort of body count that a gay man can.

    In the UK, schoolgirls are given HPV jabs routinely, which help protect against various forms of cancer triggered by the (sexually transmitted) viruses. They've just started giving it to boys as well.

    But if you're an unjabbed, straight adult male, you have to pay privately - unless you tell them you're gay. Then it's free.


    (Altai - it is Friday today, the preferred day for Muslim terror attacks. May be related)

    , @Dennis Dale
    @Paperback Writer

    I was going to say "pickiness" and promiscuity don't go together, but actually they do. Cue the famous Randy Shilts quote about the brutal hierarchy of gay sexual attraction. I overheard a gay-sounding guy telling another that "tops" are mostly the more attractive guys, who get to dictate (please no puns).

    Even if you take out the masculine aspect of gay sexual relations, you still have a group of people for whom sex has had up until the "gay marriage" movement no relation to marriage or procreation, which still loom over even the most degenerate heterosexual environments. The dynamic of women choosing men who compete for them is gone, replaced only by, perhaps, the dynamic of the most desired choosing. Everyone is On the Make.

    Of course, with birth control and sexual liberation they've managed to make heterosexual culture resemble gay culture, at the same time crafting the image of the domestic gay, marrying, adopting, mimicking heterosexual relations. It's quite remarkable what they've achieved: making heteros "gay" in their promiscuity, and gays "straight" in their domesticity.

    I watched part of a Sex and the City episode years ago and I realized the slut character (who gave a random dude a blow job) is a transposed gay cruiser. It all seems rather deliberate.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Nicholas Stix, @Tracy

  54. @Thomas
    Plenty have wormed their way into the tech industry. The Wachowskis and their work are a case study in the appeal of the abstract world of technology to these particular misfits. Big tech has had to worry about internal dissent as a result. (Though Netflix may be the first to put their foot down.) That's one factor, at least.

    The trannies versus the blacks is the Godzilla vs. Kong of what passes for culture in this rotting empire.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @El Dato, @Peter Akuleyev

    Truly hoping that the new Matrix movie is an epic fail, although I like Mr. Reeves.

    Opening is December 2022.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Paperback Writer

    The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix Revolutions sucked, so we may reasonably expect that the next one will suck as well.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Sick 'n Tired

  55. Anonymous[348] • Disclaimer says:

    J.K. Rowling, author of the Harry Potter books, is the world’s best-selling writer. Dave Chappelle is, arguably, the top stand-up comic in America at present. Neither is a dreaded white man.

    How insane is it that the fetishists in frocks who want to shut them up are treated by the press as the Good Gals?

    Why are you up in arms about this Steve? Why are you fighting it? It is a lucky turn of events that it is happening.

  56. @Elmer T. Jones
    Chappelle is opening a comedy club in nearby Yellow Springs, Ohio, which may turn that sleepy hipster enclave into the next Austin or Boise as refugees pour out of California. I saw bearded ladies and tranz-men in Yellow Springs 50 years ago, so he may inadvertently be promoting the bohemian lifestyle that he cruelly mocks in his show. My weed connection, an aging hippie from Yellow Springs who served time in the Big House back in the 70s for dealing, is concerned that real estate prices have already surged in the village.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Paperback Writer, @e, @AnotherDad, @Paul Jolliffe

    Maybe the key to survival (I mean, of your family, not just you) if you’re not Amish or Hasidic is to find bohemian enclaves that have not yet been discovered by the famous. Boho enclaves are, let’s face it, pleasant and tend to attract smart people who, underneath it all, know the score. They want good schools and functional businesses.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Paperback Writer


    Boho enclaves are, let’s face it, pleasant and tend to attract smart people who, underneath it all, know the score. They want good schools and functional businesses.
     
    Include Boulder, Colorado on your list.

    Said enclaves mostly attract younger people who get there and end up waiting tables or making lattes. Those people, even the ones who are trust fund recipients and never have to work (they are legion) rent first and don't have anything to do with the governance of where they live. Only the wealthiest of them do eventually. Most move on back to wherever they came from and where their wealthy parents live.

    WTF does this have to do with Dave Chappelle?

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  57. The acceptance that being trans is healthy, beautiful, and natural — despite requiring modern surgery and medicine — is literally the most absurd belief ever believed by a large group of people in history.

    Other beliefs are more harmful, or as silly since the advent of science. But none represent as great a gap between what should be obvious given the times, and what is accepted.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin, Catdog, Kylie
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @megabar


    The acceptance that being trans is healthy, beautiful, and natural — despite requiring modern surgery and medicine — is literally the most absurd belief ever believed by a large group of people in history.
     
    I would say "one of the most absurd," but yeah.

    It goes along with the idea that every human consciousness is simply an entity, a sexless soul of some kind. Well, this Deist believes each of us is a mind, a conscious piece of God, if you will, but he does not deny the existence of sex. Sex was created by God.

    One is born with a sex.

    That is obvious. We live in a time of denial of the obvious. What Steve Sailer mostly writes about is the obvious. The obvious that most, for some reason, will not acknowledge.

    Our task is to ask why so many people will not acknowledge the obvious.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @James J O'Meara

    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @megabar


    The acceptance that being trans is healthy, beautiful, and natural — despite requiring modern surgery and medicine — is literally the most absurd belief ever believed by a large group of people in history.
     
    There's some social cognitive loop where certain bare social graces (i.e. don't point, gawk, and laugh at the weirdo) get ossified over time into a substantive denial of the truth of things.

    We write a lot here about race and crime and race and IQ. But there was a time when the more salient aspects of this were able to be discussed because they are of public import, and issues which consume a lot of our politics (crime and punishment, racial wealth/achievement gaps). So even when you could discuss them substantively, it would have been bad manners to meet a black American on the bus or in line at the grocery store and unnecessarily broach the subjects of race and crime or race and IQ. We understand that in purely social or civic settings this is an insult even if true. But at some point this concern for politeness and social harmony itself overcame the the substantive issues - or, rather, Americans' politeness and desire to get along was exploited and turned against them. So now in the PMC orthodoxy it's not impolite to talk about race and crime and race and IQ when discussing racial wealth and achievement gaps and crime, punishment and incarceration policy, it's all simply deemed false.

    That's more or less what happened with our coterie of sexual minority identities which require ever more ridiculous denials of truth from the rest of us - we always very quickly go from the premise that one shouldn't attack them physically to not speaking in a manner which would be deemed offensive by ever more sensitive types and on to a social requirement that one affirm the proprieties of their identities.

    You will perhaps notice that the left is never required to observe even the most basic social conventions, and elements of it revel in constant and superfluous insult of whites, Christians, Americans, etc. They seem to be holding the edge of the discourse by denying even the most basic of social graces to outgroups (while simultaneously demanding deference from the outgroups for its constituent ingroups).

    So in this sense demanding concessions from Chappelle and Netflix is necessary to their project. They didn't get him this time, but there remains a pour encourager les autres logic to even this loss. It is understood that you will need to be at least as financially independent, popular, and black as Chappelle to survive the the costs incurred for even slightest act of non-deference towards the Alphabet mob.

    Replies: @megabar

    , @Altai
    @megabar

    Go to https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm

    It's literally Pro-Ana. Instead of starving themselves thin or becoming bulimic they have their breast surgically removed and go on testosterone. It's a cult. Even has the old Pro-Ana stuff of how to hide your chest binders or get drugs without your parents knowing etc.

    And the constant posts about them being confused or 'figuring out' their sexuality, gender identity etc. I've never seen a collection of people more inarticulate and unaware of their inner life.

    Every day another half dozen to dozen post surgery shots from adolescent or earlier 20s girls.

    , @Reactive Reaction
    @megabar

    "The acceptance that being trans is healthy, beautiful, and natural — despite requiring modern surgery and medicine — is literally the most absurd belief ever believed by a large group of people in history"

    One could dispute that the accepting group is "large".

  58. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Altai


    Among liberal women it is primarily women who have a deep hatred or fear of men who are TERF (At least openly). To them the man who thinks he is a woman is just a man and they got into SocJus to hate them so why are we trying to be empathic and understanding to him? To them all this must be a result of patriarchy and not the lack of it. Gen Z/Y women have obtained enormous influence over society through social media and this is part of what they’ve wrought.
     
    I don't think this is correct - there seems to be a generational fracture where the younger feminists are "all in" on essentialist trans identity insofar as they will insist that a man can become a real living breathing girl like Pinocchio, and that anyone who becomes female by declaration and acclaim is entitled to all of the accoutrements of being a girl (i.e., tampons and pap smears and dominating biological women in contact sports).

    The early Gen-X and older feminists seem to be the ones more disposed to calling bullshit on the whole thing - they seem to see MtF trans as men exploiting a loophole in order to encroach upon social capital and authority that was hard won by them.

    There are also lesbians (lots of overlap with radical feminists) who object to an essentialist MtF trans identity (i.e., trans women are real women) because it seems like a subset of MtF trans are really horny male lesbian porn enthusiasts who utilize the social pressure of the Alphabet regime in order to pressure actual female lesbians into dating/having sex with them. The gambit goes "if you're a lesbian and you won't have sex with a trans woman you're a bigot because you are erasing the "existence" of the trans woman (viz, you don't really believe that it's a real girl).

    IIRC, "TERF" was originally the self-selected moniker of actually extreme, radical feminists who sought to exclude "trans women" from feminism and the LGBTQ and sometimes Y community, but subsequently "TERF" came to be used as a pejorative against anyone on the left who doesn't accept essentialist trans identity regardless of the extent of their lesbian bone fides.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @El Dato, @Intelligent Dasein

    When did “erasing” enter the vocabulary? And why?

    Nobody has been sent to a soap factory, and it’s not really a replacement for “aggressively ignoring”, at least I don’t think it is.

  59. @Steve Sailer
    @Elmer T. Jones

    Which liberal abolitionist Ohio college are Dave Chappelle's parents associated with? Antioch? Oberlin?

    When the brilliant black guy who is the most distinguished scion of almost 200 years of extremely progressive culture thinks you are nuts, you are nuts.

    Replies: @New Dealer, @Paperback Writer, @Jack D, @Curle, @Corvinus, @Anon

    Yellow Springs is Antioch College. Has a fascinating history. “It was the third college in the country to admit African-American students on an equal basis with whites.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioch_College

    If transwomen ARE women, there would be no need to “celebrate” them with prominent insertion into media representations of society. Images of just women would be sufficient. The portrayal is necessarily of someone who is not a female pretending that he is a female, accompanied by various social reactions to that pretense.

    • Agree: El Dato
  60. @Thomas
    Plenty have wormed their way into the tech industry. The Wachowskis and their work are a case study in the appeal of the abstract world of technology to these particular misfits. Big tech has had to worry about internal dissent as a result. (Though Netflix may be the first to put their foot down.) That's one factor, at least.

    The trannies versus the blacks is the Godzilla vs. Kong of what passes for culture in this rotting empire.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @El Dato, @Peter Akuleyev

    Big tech has had to worry about internal dissent as a result.

    Isn’t it mostly “Internet companies” that are disproportionately affected, or niche sectors like “gaming journalism”?

    I haven’t heard about problems in companies designing bespoke circuit boards etc.

    • Replies: @Thomas
    @El Dato

    I couldn't really speak to that, not being that connected to that subsector of the tech industry. That sector doesn't have the same high public profile nor intersection with these hot button cultural issues wherein they would be relevant. I could certainly believe that a more hard science- and engineering-based subsector would be less welcome to people suffering from delusions about basic facts of the material world.

  61. @Altai
    Conservative MP who was prominent Brexiteer and trans-skeptic (And general anti-LGBT) stabbed several times today. Was he stabbed by an immigrant who felt personally attacked by Brexit (And egged on by a hysterical media) or was he stabbed by a MTF or was he stabbed by a gay man? (And egged on by a hysterical social media)

    https://www.rt.com/uk/537586-uk-mp-david-amess-stabbed-church/

    BBC still hasn't reported it, others are saying a 'man' stabbed him. But perhaps like so many MTF, he just didn't pass.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @YetAnotherAnon, @Graham, @Obstinate Cymric

    I think when the deputy leader of the Parliamentary Labour Party describes Conservatives as “scum” – and keeps her job – it encourages such things. This was less than a month ago.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/26/angela-rayner-stands-by-remarks-calling-tories-scum

    Angela Rayner has stood by her description of the Conservatives as “homophobic, racist, misogynistic … scum” after the Labour leader distanced himself from her words.

  62. It’s all for the children, to protect them from emotional harm and allow them to express themselves as the “feminine” beings that they truly are!!!!

    • Replies: @J1234
    @CCZ

    Twice as many thumbs down votes as thumbs up votes, just what every insurance company wants for their ads. So, I guess youtube will be cancelling thumbs down votes in the near future?

    Steve asks:
    "Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World's Most Popular Entertainers?"

    It's culture vs. standard of living. I don't know which will prevail, but the huge portion of the public that claims to despise wokeness generally loves their affluence more than they love their traditional values, so that's the angle of attack the elite left uses. Ironically, as long as they feel they have too much to lose by confronting the most significant moral threat their culture has faced in several generations, those who oppose wokeness have lost. The confrontation will have to be a lot bigger than down votes on youtube.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

  63. @Paperback Writer
    @Dennis Dale

    That's true of effeminate homosexuals, but not this lot. As Steve points out, they are hypermasculine men who have a paraphilia, and they work out their paraphilia in a 100% masculine way: with dedication, teamwork, and controlled fury. Not terribly feminine, IMHO.

    Gay men's famous promiscuity is said to be a masculine characteristic. I disagree. It's female pickiness, but in a male body. Similarly gay men are bigger and better bitches than any woman can be, and that's saying a lot.

    Thing about gay men is that you can avoid them, although sometimes at a professional cost. You cannot avoid the regiment of dudes in dresses. They really are coming for you.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Dennis Dale

    “Gay men’s famous promiscuity is said to be a masculine characteristic. I disagree. It’s female pickiness, but in a male body.”

    If gay men were as “picky” as women are, Aids would never have been a thing, and neither would STIs be as far through the roof as they are. Very few heterosexual men can clock up the sort of body count that a gay man can.

    In the UK, schoolgirls are given HPV jabs routinely, which help protect against various forms of cancer triggered by the (sexually transmitted) viruses. They’ve just started giving it to boys as well.

    But if you’re an unjabbed, straight adult male, you have to pay privately – unless you tell them you’re gay. Then it’s free.

    (Altai – it is Friday today, the preferred day for Muslim terror attacks. May be related)

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
  64. @Wilkey
    @Dennis Dale

    Many trannies and gay men (which trannies mostly are) combine the anger and promiscuity of the worst men with the petulance, self-righteousness, and backbiting of the worst women. It’s their special superpower.

    Replies: @Juvenalis, @Dennis Dale

    Many trannies and gay men (which trannies mostly are)

    Not even remotely close to true; a mathematically absurd suggestion on its face. Among MtF Trans, Homosexual Transsexuals make up an infinitesimally tiny <0.05% microscopic sub-minority of the tiny 2-3% minority population of homosexual males.

    Homosexual Transsexualism is first evident in early childhood. However, even among the ~0.05% of naturally feminine boys that can be diagnosed with Childhood Onset Gender Dysphoria, if left alone, ~85% (73-98%) will naturally desist to accept their birth sex upon puberty, and live most likely as homo/bisexual men.* Adult gay men do not just suddenly turn trans. Homosexual Trans are extremely rare.

    An estimated 2.8-3.2% of all adolescent and adult heterosexual males experience some degree of autogynephilia. More than 90% of all Transsexuals are Nonhomosexual-type, i.e. fetishistic Autogynephilic Transsexualism, which manifests at or after puberty. A male cannot be autogynephilic if he is not first gynephilic.

    *See, e.g.

    «The literature on gender dysphoric children shows gender dysphoria in childhood does not result in gender dysphoria or GID in adolescence and adulthood. Feelings of gender dysphoria persisted into adolescence in only 39 of 246 of the children (15.8%) who were investigated in a number of prospective follow-up studies (Bakwin, 1968; Davenport, 1986; Drummond, Bradley, Peterson-Badali & Zucker, 2008; Green, 1987; Kosky, 1987; Lebovitz, 1972; Money & Ruso, 1979; Wallien & Cohen-Kettenis, 2008; Zucker & Bradley, 1995; Zuger, 1984). Although persistence rates differed between various studies (2% to 27%), the results unequivocally showed gender dysphoria remitted after puberty in the vast majority of children…»

    [Steensma, T. D., Biemond, R., de Boer, F., & Cohen-Kettenis, P. T. (2011). Desisting and persisting gender dysphoria after childhood: A qualitative follow-up study. Clinical Child Psychology and Psychiatry, 16(4), 499–516. DOI: 10.1177/1359104510378303]

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
    @Juvenalis

    You appear to have done the 'thing' of failing to properly understand set theory, and thinking that 'Most A are B' is refuted by showing that 'Most B are not A'.


    Many trannies and gay men (which trannies mostly are)
     
    ... is a statement equivalent to "most trannies are gay men".

    Your response gives three pieces of irrelevant evidence:
    ① that most gay men aren't trannies;
    ② that most confused children 'naturally desist to accept their birth sex upon puberty' - whatever that means;
    ③ that most confused children 'diagnosed' with gender dysphoria get over it without being genitally mutilated.

    Most gay men don't become cross-dressing loons who get their genitals mutilated: that's entirely consistent with the notion that most pretend women are gay men - because the set of genitally-mutilated cross-dressing ex-men is much smaller than the set of gay men.

    If some over-medicated attention-seeking teen goes to a charlatan who 'diagnoses' them as 'gender dysphoric', and does not subsequently proceed to get themselves genitally mutilated... that just shows the pseudoscientific nature of the charlatan's craft.

    I don't give a shit either way: I'm not homosexual, nor do I have any urge to pass myself off as a woman. I'm not anti-either of those, either: I have a great deal of sympathy for kiddies who are medicated by their idiot parents.

    What I am strongly opposed to, is people who try to pretend that psychobabble is discipline whose checklist-based drivel is worth pissing on.

    That, and people who don't understand set theory.

    , @Stan Adams
    @Juvenalis

    What percentage of gay guys are drag queens?

    (Transvestite ≠ transgender.)

  65. The very idea that there’s even a discussion as to what biologically constitutes a male or female just shows how worthless this (former) country or for that matter, western society has become. The twilight zone ain’t got nothing on our cultural nightmare.

  66. Anonymous[268] • Disclaimer says:
    @JimDandy
    "Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World's Most Popular Entertainers?"

    I'd like an answer, please. Or at least a theory.

    Replies: @JimB, @aNewBanner, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Cato

    I’d like an answer, please. Or at least a theory.

    To understand political events, you have to understand how politics works.

    a) Politics is the career of politicians. They treat it as an income source, no more, no less. They will do anything to keep their income flowing.

    b) There are two components a democracy/republic elections:
    1) The general public.
    2) Paid voting blocks (“special interest groups”) organized formerly by special economic or ideological interests, and now augmented by racial interests.

    c) The political game is to divide the general public so that their vote is split evenly, and cancels itself out except for random variations in exactly where the split holds. Let’s say that the general public split is usually 52/48, a 4% swing. If a particular coalition of politicians controls a coalition of voting blocks that is larger than the 4% swing, that coalition can reliably win the election. This was true during the US Era of Good Feelings and is still true today.

    d) An alternate strategy of influencing the popular vote is also possible, and can succeed (e.g. FDR, Trump), but professional politicians regard this as dangerous to their incomes and generally oppose what they call “Populism”, which is a “threat to Our Democracy” (and when professional pols say “Our Democracy”, they are saying they own democracy.

    3) Turchin points out that, over time, elites grow faster than grows the income stream to politics (to elite status groups), even when a higher percentage of GDP is diverted to the supporting the elites. This breeds strife among the elites (some of whom are excluded from the elite category) and the general population (which sees its income decline). Eventually, some of the excluded elite (Trump, for example, or FDR again) try leading a “populist revolt” — that is, they appeal to the general population for support.

    4) During such revolts, the elite establishment often tries a resort to totalitarianism, a sort of “Whip these dogs back to their kennels” approach. During this appeal, retaining the loyalty of the paid voting blocks that support the elite establishment (e.g. the Democratic Party and the anti-Trump wing of the Republican Party) is absolutely essential to the elite establishment’s survival.

    5) Since retaining the loyalty of the paid voting blocks that support the elite establishment (e.g. the Democratic Party and the anti-Trump wing of the Republican Party) is absolutely essential. Accordingly, critical paid voting blocks can ask for almost anything and the elite establishment will try to give it to them. Does the Far Left want Antifa to rule CHAZ? OK, done. Does the political – industrial complex want 2 or 3 trillion dollars for useless hardware or patronage jobs? Done. It’s a matter of survival.

    And that’s what’s happening.

    An establishment that has contorted itself enough to give special interest groups what they demand appears schizophrenic to the general population, and perhaps the appearance is the truth. Ordinarily, that is enough of an edge to give some group of excluded elite victory over the establishment.

    Note that the above is consistent with Orwell’s “the High, the Middle, and the Low” essay, supposedly by Goldberg, in the book _1984_.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    This theory implies that the current US government has no single controlling group, that the Joe Biden Presidency is not an accident, but rather a way of making it clear to the Democrat/Republican interest groups that they can simply take whatever they want, and do so without having to ask anybody. The elite establishment will support whatever the interest groups do, as it has no other hope of retaining power.

    As it happens, some racial and sexual groups want to cancel other racial and sexual groups completely. They are being permitted to cancel with the full weight of the Federal Government behind them, just as Epstein was permitted to conduct his operation. The canceling groups may be as mentally ill as Epstein, they may even be what Dutton calls "spiteful mutants", but the canceling groups are nonetheless vital Establishment interest groups, and this is their time of power.

    While the resultant confusion and reliance on raw force appears to presage absolute government, it is in reality just every interest group taking what it can before failure of the establishment that the interest groups have been a part of. The group's reasoning is that the establishment will be replaced whatever they do, the good times are coming to an end, so it is best to stock up for the replacement's hard times. "Make hay before the sunset" would be a whimsical way to describe the mindset.

    And who knows? Maybe the horse will learn to sing and their efforts will actually lead to a totalitarian government. It worked out that way for the USSR.

    I should add that, while ordinarily the establishment is defeated by some non-establishment elite group, the process of defeat can be as destructive as was the US Civil War.

    Replies: @Thea

  67. @megabar
    The acceptance that being trans is healthy, beautiful, and natural -- despite requiring modern surgery and medicine -- is literally the most absurd belief ever believed by a large group of people in history.

    Other beliefs are more harmful, or as silly since the advent of science. But none represent as great a gap between what should be obvious given the times, and what is accepted.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Altai, @Reactive Reaction

    The acceptance that being trans is healthy, beautiful, and natural — despite requiring modern surgery and medicine — is literally the most absurd belief ever believed by a large group of people in history.

    I would say “one of the most absurd,” but yeah.

    It goes along with the idea that every human consciousness is simply an entity, a sexless soul of some kind. Well, this Deist believes each of us is a mind, a conscious piece of God, if you will, but he does not deny the existence of sex. Sex was created by God.

    One is born with a sex.

    That is obvious. We live in a time of denial of the obvious. What Steve Sailer mostly writes about is the obvious. The obvious that most, for some reason, will not acknowledge.

    Our task is to ask why so many people will not acknowledge the obvious.

    • Agree: megabar, Sick 'n Tired
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I will add to this that no one ever argues against positive/negative, +/-, yin/yang, etc.

    The universe necessarily requires differences that are complementary and work together. Thus male/female.


    https://s3-production.bobvila.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Types-of-Electrical-Outlets.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    , @James J O'Meara
    @Buzz Mohawk

    "Well, this Deist believes each of us is a mind, a conscious piece of God, if you will, but he does not deny the existence of sex. Sex was created by God."

    The rise of transsexualism may be related to Christianity. Now, hear me out.

    Christianity was originally an apocalyptic cult (one of several in 1st century Palestine), which taught the equality of the sexes, forbade marriage and children, etc. All of which makes sense if you think sex is bad and the world is ending in a few weeks (cf. the Wokester who "doesn't want to bring children into this sick world"), but also has a theoretical basis: sex is the beginning of all the subsequent divisions: male/female, Jew/gentile, black/white, rich/poor, etc., which "are as one in Christ." As a later Protestant cult said "When Adam delved and Eve span/Who then was a gentleman?"

    Of course, the world didn't end, Christ didn't reappear (the Gnostics taught a "realized eschatology" which meant that the Second Coming had already occurred at baptism), so while some fell away, others tried to "reinterpret" the traditions so that one could continue to live in, rather than shun, the sinful world. Robert M. Price calls this the "embourgeois-fication of religion". Sex isn't shunned but more or less closely regulated, prophecy is replaced by dogma, a hierarchy is installed, etc. The process can be traced as the Epistles progress, from "I would that all men were like me" and talking in tongues to "Bishops must have only one wife" and women must be silent. Celibacy is honored but only in the clergy or monks and nuns. This is the "religion that made the West" as pro-Christian conservatives like to say.



    Thing of it is, since Christianity is still essentially apocalyptic, every now and then that breaks out; not just in cults: Protestantism itself was such an outbreak, overthrowing the hierarchy with the "priesthood of all believers." And remember "All men are created equal"? It's a medium if not short step from "In Christ there is no male or female, Jew or gentile" to Equity, which is why the Protestant churches got Woke first and are still the hardest Woke.

    So transsexualism is another apocalyptic cult: as you say, we are "really" just minds, equal shares in the Divine Mind, but sex, like the material world (one being the cause of the other, however you prefer the order) divides and deludes us. When you say above that "God created sex" you are endorsing the bourgeois accommodation: "hey, religion is fine in its place, but ya gotta get married and have kids, buddy."

    The transsexual rejects the idea that "anatomy is destiny" as conservatives like to intone: anatomy, like all other limitations, is a cruel prison, which we are learning to overcome. The Woke believe, like the primitive Christians, that all distinctions and divisions are not God's will but the Devil's trickery. Like the Logos, Science will save us, by breaking the power of genetics, matter, whatever.

    The relation to Transhumanism is obvious. And so of course the Wacky Brothers made an gnostic, apocalyptic film.

    This works for race, too; genetic engineering will produce what one author calls "brown bodies with white IQs" and then where is your "white nationalism"? "Oh, actually, it is the skin color we don't like." Well, don't worry: genetic engineering will make the whole Woke agenda practical. Want to impose democracy on Afghanistan? Reprogram them. Still racist? We'll take that out too.

    Gnosticism + genetics = Wokeism/Transsexualism/Transhumanism. As Iggy Pop said years ago, "Look out honey, 'cause I'm using technology!"

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @bomag

  68. @Buzz Mohawk
    @megabar


    The acceptance that being trans is healthy, beautiful, and natural — despite requiring modern surgery and medicine — is literally the most absurd belief ever believed by a large group of people in history.
     
    I would say "one of the most absurd," but yeah.

    It goes along with the idea that every human consciousness is simply an entity, a sexless soul of some kind. Well, this Deist believes each of us is a mind, a conscious piece of God, if you will, but he does not deny the existence of sex. Sex was created by God.

    One is born with a sex.

    That is obvious. We live in a time of denial of the obvious. What Steve Sailer mostly writes about is the obvious. The obvious that most, for some reason, will not acknowledge.

    Our task is to ask why so many people will not acknowledge the obvious.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @James J O'Meara

    I will add to this that no one ever argues against positive/negative, +/-, yin/yang, etc.

    The universe necessarily requires differences that are complementary and work together. Thus male/female.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Why, you're just a short-circuit-phobe.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Buzz Mohawk

    We recently had to rent an icing machine from a medical supply business. Before the salesman demonstrated how one hose connected with the other, he felt obliged to ask, "Are you okay with 'male/female'?"

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Buzz Mohawk


    The universe necessarily requires differences that are complementary and work together. Thus male/female.
     
    I get what you're writing but this is not necessarily always so. There are creatures that can reproduce asexually. And there are vertebrate creatures which can legitimately change their sex from male to female during their life cycle and be capable of reproduction as both a male and later as a female. Groupers do this - they change from sperm producing male to egg laying female as they age.

    But the ancestors of humans and of Groupers branched off from one another a very, very, very long time ago in evolutionary history. It was at that point where a stratagem of sexual reproduction was settled upon forevermore. Humans are male and female, and the gametes of both are required for reproduction. Sex change is fascinating and amusing in fish, but impossible and ridiculous in humans.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  69. @Steve Sailer
    @Elmer T. Jones

    Which liberal abolitionist Ohio college are Dave Chappelle's parents associated with? Antioch? Oberlin?

    When the brilliant black guy who is the most distinguished scion of almost 200 years of extremely progressive culture thinks you are nuts, you are nuts.

    Replies: @New Dealer, @Paperback Writer, @Jack D, @Curle, @Corvinus, @Anon

    There is Wikipedia.

  70. The radical assault on all that is normal continues on other fronts too. Pete Buttigieg is taking time away from the office to spend time with his “husband” and “their children”.

    Pete Buttigieg hasn’t worked in 8 weeks due to paternity leave…

    https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/pete-buttigieg-hasnt-worked-in-8-weeks-due-to-paternity-leave/

    America in the 21st century………fake and gay.

  71. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I will add to this that no one ever argues against positive/negative, +/-, yin/yang, etc.

    The universe necessarily requires differences that are complementary and work together. Thus male/female.


    https://s3-production.bobvila.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Types-of-Electrical-Outlets.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Why, you’re just a short-circuit-phobe.

    • LOL: Buzz Mohawk
  72. All world religions have understood it. L. Ron Hubbard understood it. In order to have a religion, you have to have a claim about the world that cannot be fully verified by empirical proof. Your allies in the faith profess acceptance (even with doubt in the heart). Your enemies say it is not true (the emperor has no clothes).

    In prehistoric/ancient times, failure to at least profess the claim resulted in ultimate death. In our times, this is the equivalent of killing those who will not profess the claim.

    Nietchze said we wouldn’t believe when we observed the kinds of things that would replace an absent God. For too long, we have only focused on fealty, bowing down. We forget that humans will invent an never-ending set of truth claims that are, by design, not capable of being established as fact.

  73. “The biological imperative” theory consists of several elements, and in the past, powerful emphasis was placed upon the “reproduction drive” component. (As someone quipped, derange yourself, upend your life, all for a few moments of almost nothing.) But that wired biological imperative has several other elements that involve expanding ones territory into a more rewarding territory, and this is what has gained traction.

  74. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I will add to this that no one ever argues against positive/negative, +/-, yin/yang, etc.

    The universe necessarily requires differences that are complementary and work together. Thus male/female.


    https://s3-production.bobvila.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Types-of-Electrical-Outlets.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    We recently had to rent an icing machine from a medical supply business. Before the salesman demonstrated how one hose connected with the other, he felt obliged to ask, “Are you okay with ‘male/female’?”

    • LOL: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Harry Baldwin

    Then there is master/slave for disks. You're not allowed to call them that anymore.

    Also I understand that saying "the pot calling the kettle black" is problematic because it implies that being called black is a negative.

  75. @Paperback Writer
    @Elmer T. Jones

    Maybe the key to survival (I mean, of your family, not just you) if you're not Amish or Hasidic is to find bohemian enclaves that have not yet been discovered by the famous. Boho enclaves are, let's face it, pleasant and tend to attract smart people who, underneath it all, know the score. They want good schools and functional businesses.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Boho enclaves are, let’s face it, pleasant and tend to attract smart people who, underneath it all, know the score. They want good schools and functional businesses.

    Include Boulder, Colorado on your list.

    Said enclaves mostly attract younger people who get there and end up waiting tables or making lattes. Those people, even the ones who are trust fund recipients and never have to work (they are legion) rent first and don’t have anything to do with the governance of where they live. Only the wealthiest of them do eventually. Most move on back to wherever they came from and where their wealthy parents live.

    WTF does this have to do with Dave Chappelle?

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Buzz Mohawk


    WTF does this have to do with Dave Chappelle?

     

    One of the commenters mentioned that Chappelle's home town of Yellow Springs, Ohio is something of a hipster/boho enclave, and that Chappelle's presence is making it very trendy. So I chimed in that the best places to live are hipster enclaves that are under the radar.

    Only problem with Boulder is that it's in a disgustingly blue state.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar

  76. @Paperback Writer
    @Thomas

    Truly hoping that the new Matrix movie is an epic fail, although I like Mr. Reeves.

    Opening is December 2022.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix Revolutions sucked, so we may reasonably expect that the next one will suck as well.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Harry Baldwin

    True, however the Media Industrial Complex will double down with favorable reviews and good buzz to try to turn it into a hit.

    , @Sick 'n Tired
    @Harry Baldwin

    The first Matrix was to mind blowing and Hollywood is too greedy to have just left it alone as a stand alone movie. If they had, it would be one of the greatest movies ever made due to the filming techniques, special effects, and general plot. Instead they had to make 2 sequels of dreck, water down the storyline, and use to much CGI that made the human characters look cartoonish.

  77. @Harry Baldwin
    @Buzz Mohawk

    We recently had to rent an icing machine from a medical supply business. Before the salesman demonstrated how one hose connected with the other, he felt obliged to ask, "Are you okay with 'male/female'?"

    Replies: @Jack D

    Then there is master/slave for disks. You’re not allowed to call them that anymore.

    Also I understand that saying “the pot calling the kettle black” is problematic because it implies that being called black is a negative.

  78. *We believe Science is Real™!*

    Well, maybe not those problematic double helices or whatnot …

    https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/01/a-conversation-with-the-founders-of-doublex.html

    They Almost Called It Moxie

    A conversation with the founders of the DoubleX section as we bid it a fond farewell.

    By Emily Bazelon, Meghan O’Rourke, Hanna Rosin, and Julia Turner
    Jan 16, 2018 5:55 AM

    For the past decade, Slate has had a specific place for its coverage of women’s issues. What started as a blog, XX Factor, turned into a standalone website, DoubleX, and then eventually came back to Slate proper as the DoubleX section. Now we’re changing all that—saying goodbye to DoubleX …

    Bazelon: The naming and logo problems were … man, that was really hard. DoubleX as our name was a sort of act of desperation. We thought we were choosing something incredibly straightforward, which of course in retrospect seems like it left out a lot of people who decided to transition to becoming female and don’t have two X chromosomes. Oops.

    Turner: Yeah, I mean I think it would be hard to imagine, I mean first of all, just the visibility of trans issues make the name no longer seem as inclusive as it once did.

    Turner: It’s true that, yes, DoubleX has had some aesthetic qualms around it, but was a little bit difficult from a business perspective to sell because the two X’s made some people think it was a porn site, and then now turns out—

    O’Rourke: We didn’t even think about that until—

    Turner: And now it turns out to potentially also be transphobic.

    Bazelon: Terrific.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The majority of people who work in infotainment are midwits. Sometimes they drive into dead ends like this. It's fun to watch, but unfortunately they have become apparatchiks of our time.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    To try to prevent being canceled in the near future, Slate should attribute its transphobic DoubleX articles to “Authors” :


    They Almost Called It Moxie

    A conversation with the founders of the [redacted] section as we bid it a fond farewell.

    By Author, Author, Author, and Author
    Jan 16, 2018 5:55 AM
     

    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1448218079587024896

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

  79. As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.

    Thank you, Mr. Sailer! This had me ROTFL.

    This particular insight of yours should enter the public consciousness..

  80. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I will add to this that no one ever argues against positive/negative, +/-, yin/yang, etc.

    The universe necessarily requires differences that are complementary and work together. Thus male/female.


    https://s3-production.bobvila.com/articles/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Types-of-Electrical-Outlets.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Harry Baldwin, @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    The universe necessarily requires differences that are complementary and work together. Thus male/female.

    I get what you’re writing but this is not necessarily always so. There are creatures that can reproduce asexually. And there are vertebrate creatures which can legitimately change their sex from male to female during their life cycle and be capable of reproduction as both a male and later as a female. Groupers do this – they change from sperm producing male to egg laying female as they age.

    But the ancestors of humans and of Groupers branched off from one another a very, very, very long time ago in evolutionary history. It was at that point where a stratagem of sexual reproduction was settled upon forevermore. Humans are male and female, and the gametes of both are required for reproduction. Sex change is fascinating and amusing in fish, but impossible and ridiculous in humans.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)


    There are creatures that can reproduce asexually.
     
    Yes, yes, we know, but they are not even close to human.

    Sexual reproduction, +/-, is necessary for the existence of intelligent life. To deny two, and only two, sexes is to deny what is necessary for us to even be able to think about it.

    Think about it.

    I don't care about groupers or even about grunion that slide up next to each other in the sand while the male comes on the female. There's sex, baby!


    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2007/10/18/movies/NYT2007101811342507C.600.jpg

    (I grabbed some on Seal Beach one night and we fried them at my sister's place there. It's called the grunion run. I got grunion cum on me.)

    Even that, though sexual, is sand-porn so beneath us as not to even matter in this discussion.

  81. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    *We believe Science is Real™!*

    Well, maybe not those problematic double helices or whatnot …

    https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/01/a-conversation-with-the-founders-of-doublex.html


    They Almost Called It Moxie

    A conversation with the founders of the DoubleX section as we bid it a fond farewell.

    By Emily Bazelon, Meghan O’Rourke, Hanna Rosin, and Julia Turner
    Jan 16, 2018 5:55 AM
     


    For the past decade, Slate has had a specific place for its coverage of women’s issues. What started as a blog, XX Factor, turned into a standalone website, DoubleX, and then eventually came back to Slate proper as the DoubleX section. Now we’re changing all that—saying goodbye to DoubleX ...
     

    Bazelon: The naming and logo problems were … man, that was really hard. DoubleX as our name was a sort of act of desperation. We thought we were choosing something incredibly straightforward, which of course in retrospect seems like it left out a lot of people who decided to transition to becoming female and don’t have two X chromosomes. Oops.

    Turner: Yeah, I mean I think it would be hard to imagine, I mean first of all, just the visibility of trans issues make the name no longer seem as inclusive as it once did.
     


    Turner: It’s true that, yes, DoubleX has had some aesthetic qualms around it, but was a little bit difficult from a business perspective to sell because the two X’s made some people think it was a porn site, and then now turns out—

    O’Rourke: We didn’t even think about that until—

    Turner: And now it turns out to potentially also be transphobic.

    Bazelon: Terrific.
     

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The majority of people who work in infotainment are midwits. Sometimes they drive into dead ends like this. It’s fun to watch, but unfortunately they have become apparatchiks of our time.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Buzz Mohawk


    The majority of people who work in infotainment are midwits. Sometimes they drive into dead ends like this. It’s fun to watch, but unfortunately they have become apparatchiks of our time.
     
    Emily Bazelon may be a midwit but in such a case she is a highly credentialed midwit.

    It's more likely that the regnant PMC ideology has shifted, while unfortunately the internet is forever (or, at least both durable and easily searchable). In 2010 one advertised adherence to the PMC orthodoxy by proclaiming the moral superiority of women, and the PMC orthodoxy with regard to women was then very much tied up in female biology insofar as it was the distinguishing feature for which contraception and abortion was made necessary and part of the female identity. XX, referring to chromosomes, very clearly means (in contradistinction to XY). These are women's prerogatives, and the claim went, only true women (to exclude non-leftist women) had a right to have views about them - of XYs was demanded deference.

    In 2021, inclusion into the PMC elite status requires professed belief that "trans" people can change sexes by declaration and acclaim. Therefore "XX" excludes men who menstruate and have abortions (by implying that these are a woman's concern) as well as women who don't menstruate and have abortions (MtF - although there is a proportion which insists upon gynecological care in order to carry on the pretense).

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  82. SAILER’S LAW UPDATE:

    The berserker s were letting loose their arrows last night …

    6 shot in 3 separate Minneapolis incidents within 45 minutes

    Associated Press OCTOBER 15, 2021 — 7:48AM

    MINNEAPOLIS — Six people were shot and injured in Minneapolis in three separate incidents that occurred within 45 minutes of each other.

    The shootings happened Thursday night.

    Police say the first call came in at 9:06 p.m. Police responded to multiple 911 calls about a shooting on the 1800 block of Lowry Avenue and they arrived to find a man on the ground, who appeared to have been shot. He was taken to a hospital.

    Another 911 call came in at 9:25 p.m. about a shooting on the 2000 block of 3rd Avenue South. Police arrived there to find a man who appeared to have been shot. He was also taken to the hospital.

    At 9:46 p.m., police got multiple 911 calls about shots fired on the 800 block of Franklin Avenue East. Officers arrived to find two men appeared to have been shot. They were taken to the hospital. A third man had been grazed by a bullet and a fourth man went to the hospital on his own with an apparent gunshot wound.

    Police say the medical conditions of all the victims were not immediately known.

  83. @Wilkey
    @Dennis Dale

    Many trannies and gay men (which trannies mostly are) combine the anger and promiscuity of the worst men with the petulance, self-righteousness, and backbiting of the worst women. It’s their special superpower.

    Replies: @Juvenalis, @Dennis Dale

    this is what I’m thinking

  84. ‘Ten years ago a crack-smoking commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a sex-crime they didn’t commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles queer underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as lady-soldiers of fortune. If you have a gender problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the T-Team.”

    • Replies: @Stebbing Heuer
    @Ray P

    LOL

  85. @Alec Leamas (working from home)
    @Altai


    Among liberal women it is primarily women who have a deep hatred or fear of men who are TERF (At least openly). To them the man who thinks he is a woman is just a man and they got into SocJus to hate them so why are we trying to be empathic and understanding to him? To them all this must be a result of patriarchy and not the lack of it. Gen Z/Y women have obtained enormous influence over society through social media and this is part of what they’ve wrought.
     
    I don't think this is correct - there seems to be a generational fracture where the younger feminists are "all in" on essentialist trans identity insofar as they will insist that a man can become a real living breathing girl like Pinocchio, and that anyone who becomes female by declaration and acclaim is entitled to all of the accoutrements of being a girl (i.e., tampons and pap smears and dominating biological women in contact sports).

    The early Gen-X and older feminists seem to be the ones more disposed to calling bullshit on the whole thing - they seem to see MtF trans as men exploiting a loophole in order to encroach upon social capital and authority that was hard won by them.

    There are also lesbians (lots of overlap with radical feminists) who object to an essentialist MtF trans identity (i.e., trans women are real women) because it seems like a subset of MtF trans are really horny male lesbian porn enthusiasts who utilize the social pressure of the Alphabet regime in order to pressure actual female lesbians into dating/having sex with them. The gambit goes "if you're a lesbian and you won't have sex with a trans woman you're a bigot because you are erasing the "existence" of the trans woman (viz, you don't really believe that it's a real girl).

    IIRC, "TERF" was originally the self-selected moniker of actually extreme, radical feminists who sought to exclude "trans women" from feminism and the LGBTQ and sometimes Y community, but subsequently "TERF" came to be used as a pejorative against anyone on the left who doesn't accept essentialist trans identity regardless of the extent of their lesbian bone fides.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @El Dato, @Intelligent Dasein

    There are also lesbians (lots of overlap with radical feminists) who object to an essentialist MtF trans identity (i.e., trans women are real women)

    Your use of the word ‘essentialist’ here is a travesty. I mean, it is utterly, completely, and 100% the opposite of the word’s actual meaning. You should have said a positivist trans identity.

    This is important in this day and age, since real essentialism is the antidote to all the trans insanity. An essentialist would hold that each individual’s sexual nature is inherent in their soul (i.e. the substantial form of their body), and that this immaterial quality is prior to all biological distinctions and is indeed itself what makes the biological distinctions, and that any apparent contradictions to this scheme are the result of defects on the material side, not of something qualitatively different in essence.

    Thus, even in the most extreme cases (e.g. ambiguous genitalia, missing genitalia, chromosomal abnormalities, etc.), each individual person is essentially male or female, they are exactly one of these, and there is no third possibility.

    The essentialist’s claim of sexual realism is much stronger than the so-called “biological” realism one meets with around here. Biology, being at its best the classification of the sensible aspects of living things, is powerless to supply a corrective when those aspects are themselves ambiguous. For all biology can say, an XXY person really is a third sex. Essentialism would say that this person is essentially a male or a female with a material defect in ploidy.

    Of course, I have also argued elsewhere that race is an essential property, that it belongs to the immaterial side of life, and that this claim is much stronger than the silly “biological” race-realism of HBD. That point was not well understood, but this one should be quite a bit more obvious.

    • Replies: @Eugene Norman
    @Intelligent Dasein


    For all biology can say, an XXY person really is a third sex.
     
    Maybe not what’s that got to do with gender identity, which totally ignores biology. If this was just that minuscule number of people with ambiguous genitalia there would be no problem.
    , @Johnny Rico
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Thank you.

  86. @Altai
    Conservative MP who was prominent Brexiteer and trans-skeptic (And general anti-LGBT) stabbed several times today. Was he stabbed by an immigrant who felt personally attacked by Brexit (And egged on by a hysterical media) or was he stabbed by a MTF or was he stabbed by a gay man? (And egged on by a hysterical social media)

    https://www.rt.com/uk/537586-uk-mp-david-amess-stabbed-church/

    BBC still hasn't reported it, others are saying a 'man' stabbed him. But perhaps like so many MTF, he just didn't pass.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @YetAnotherAnon, @Graham, @Obstinate Cymric

    He’s died.

    14:30
    Counter-terror police assisting investigation
    Vikram Dodd

    The Guardian understands counter-terrorism police are assisting the investigation into the stabbing, which continues to be led by the local force, Essex police.

    Senior counter-terrorism officials are closely monitoring the situation and are being updated on emerging details of the attack and the suspect, who is in custody. They usually stay involved in such an investigation until a non-terrorist motive is identified

    Friday is traditional Islamist terror day, but it could just be that he was targeted and that happened to be his day for meeting constituents.

    The tweeter, a Welsh Nationalist, used to be a Police and Crime Commissioner (a civilian oversight post)

    • LOL: Jack Armstrong
    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @YetAnotherAnon


    Unfortunately this is what happens when you have a government that divides and rules and s̶o̶w̶s̶ imports hate, fear and division. Somebody, somewhere, will respond violently.
     
    , @J.Ross
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Hey, what do you know, Barfon is totally okay with murdering elected representatives as long as it's the other side. He's ready to lead the DC police or the FBI.

  87. Well, they couldn’t cancel JK Rowling. AT&T Time Warner (owner of HP and Fantastic Beasts film franchises) and Comcast (owner of Wizarding World theme parks) looked at billions in future revenue, and then looked at the trans activists, and said “nah”. Too much money at stake.

    Dave Chapelle is several orders of magnitude less successful so he is more vulnerable. I suspect they will reach some kind of compromise, like “we won’t advertise this special anymore”.

  88. @megabar
    The acceptance that being trans is healthy, beautiful, and natural -- despite requiring modern surgery and medicine -- is literally the most absurd belief ever believed by a large group of people in history.

    Other beliefs are more harmful, or as silly since the advent of science. But none represent as great a gap between what should be obvious given the times, and what is accepted.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Altai, @Reactive Reaction

    The acceptance that being trans is healthy, beautiful, and natural — despite requiring modern surgery and medicine — is literally the most absurd belief ever believed by a large group of people in history.

    There’s some social cognitive loop where certain bare social graces (i.e. don’t point, gawk, and laugh at the weirdo) get ossified over time into a substantive denial of the truth of things.

    We write a lot here about race and crime and race and IQ. But there was a time when the more salient aspects of this were able to be discussed because they are of public import, and issues which consume a lot of our politics (crime and punishment, racial wealth/achievement gaps). So even when you could discuss them substantively, it would have been bad manners to meet a black American on the bus or in line at the grocery store and unnecessarily broach the subjects of race and crime or race and IQ. We understand that in purely social or civic settings this is an insult even if true. But at some point this concern for politeness and social harmony itself overcame the the substantive issues – or, rather, Americans’ politeness and desire to get along was exploited and turned against them. So now in the PMC orthodoxy it’s not impolite to talk about race and crime and race and IQ when discussing racial wealth and achievement gaps and crime, punishment and incarceration policy, it’s all simply deemed false.

    That’s more or less what happened with our coterie of sexual minority identities which require ever more ridiculous denials of truth from the rest of us – we always very quickly go from the premise that one shouldn’t attack them physically to not speaking in a manner which would be deemed offensive by ever more sensitive types and on to a social requirement that one affirm the proprieties of their identities.

    You will perhaps notice that the left is never required to observe even the most basic social conventions, and elements of it revel in constant and superfluous insult of whites, Christians, Americans, etc. They seem to be holding the edge of the discourse by denying even the most basic of social graces to outgroups (while simultaneously demanding deference from the outgroups for its constituent ingroups).

    So in this sense demanding concessions from Chappelle and Netflix is necessary to their project. They didn’t get him this time, but there remains a pour encourager les autres logic to even this loss. It is understood that you will need to be at least as financially independent, popular, and black as Chappelle to survive the the costs incurred for even slightest act of non-deference towards the Alphabet mob.

    • Replies: @megabar
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    That's a good, thoughtful post. No doubt, politeness is a part of it. But even a passive, polite person will reject obvious falsehoods, if only privately. And, put in a position of power, will not advocate for bad policies.

    I think the problem is that we have an academic system that actively appeals to people who aren't, on average, socially typical. Even with good intentions on all sides, it's a bad idea to take a set of people who are weird and tell them to go off and decide how to run a society. But we did, and they did.

    When you have credentialed "experts" saying insane things, you can't just ignore it, especially when those people are in charge of education. You have to explicitly refute it, and doing so would violate the politeness principle you mentioned. And so few do, which means that the indoctrination is allowed to run rampart, which is why even smart, decent, normies buy into a lot of this nonsense today.

    The lessons? Require the truth in all matters of importance, don't ignore the slippery slope, and don't allow weirdos to have influence on social policy. The last is easier said than done, though, because they are drawn to it.

  89. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    *We believe Science is Real™!*

    Well, maybe not those problematic double helices or whatnot …

    https://slate.com/human-interest/2018/01/a-conversation-with-the-founders-of-doublex.html


    They Almost Called It Moxie

    A conversation with the founders of the DoubleX section as we bid it a fond farewell.

    By Emily Bazelon, Meghan O’Rourke, Hanna Rosin, and Julia Turner
    Jan 16, 2018 5:55 AM
     


    For the past decade, Slate has had a specific place for its coverage of women’s issues. What started as a blog, XX Factor, turned into a standalone website, DoubleX, and then eventually came back to Slate proper as the DoubleX section. Now we’re changing all that—saying goodbye to DoubleX ...
     

    Bazelon: The naming and logo problems were … man, that was really hard. DoubleX as our name was a sort of act of desperation. We thought we were choosing something incredibly straightforward, which of course in retrospect seems like it left out a lot of people who decided to transition to becoming female and don’t have two X chromosomes. Oops.

    Turner: Yeah, I mean I think it would be hard to imagine, I mean first of all, just the visibility of trans issues make the name no longer seem as inclusive as it once did.
     


    Turner: It’s true that, yes, DoubleX has had some aesthetic qualms around it, but was a little bit difficult from a business perspective to sell because the two X’s made some people think it was a porn site, and then now turns out—

    O’Rourke: We didn’t even think about that until—

    Turner: And now it turns out to potentially also be transphobic.

    Bazelon: Terrific.
     

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    To try to prevent being canceled in the near future, Slate should attribute its transphobic DoubleX articles to “Authors” :

    They Almost Called It Moxie

    A conversation with the founders of the [redacted] section as we bid it a fond farewell.

    By Author, Author, Author, and Author
    Jan 16, 2018 5:55 AM

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    For reasons.

  90. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The majority of people who work in infotainment are midwits. Sometimes they drive into dead ends like this. It's fun to watch, but unfortunately they have become apparatchiks of our time.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    The majority of people who work in infotainment are midwits. Sometimes they drive into dead ends like this. It’s fun to watch, but unfortunately they have become apparatchiks of our time.

    Emily Bazelon may be a midwit but in such a case she is a highly credentialed midwit.

    It’s more likely that the regnant PMC ideology has shifted, while unfortunately the internet is forever (or, at least both durable and easily searchable). In 2010 one advertised adherence to the PMC orthodoxy by proclaiming the moral superiority of women, and the PMC orthodoxy with regard to women was then very much tied up in female biology insofar as it was the distinguishing feature for which contraception and abortion was made necessary and part of the female identity. XX, referring to chromosomes, very clearly means (in contradistinction to XY). These are women’s prerogatives, and the claim went, only true women (to exclude non-leftist women) had a right to have views about them – of XYs was demanded deference.

    In 2021, inclusion into the PMC elite status requires professed belief that “trans” people can change sexes by declaration and acclaim. Therefore “XX” excludes men who menstruate and have abortions (by implying that these are a woman’s concern) as well as women who don’t menstruate and have abortions (MtF – although there is a proportion which insists upon gynecological care in order to carry on the pretense).

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Well, "the regnant PMC ideology" you just described is insanity. It resembles the convoluted imaginings of a fantasy novelist who is trying too damn hard. It's even beyond any science fiction that anyone would want to read.

    This is a case of The Emperor Wears No Clothes. Nothing more.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

  91. Line from the special:

    “They after you Dave!”

    “One they or many theys?”

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    What is the plural of "they"?

    Wrong answers only.

    Replies: @Odin

  92. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    ex-men are the Seal Team Six

    Those types throw hysterical hissy fits. Being physically larger than women they can be intimidating whereas a woman would be mocked. A person the size of a man with the brain of a raging bi-polar woman is a bad combination. But, those types also shrewdly exploit the cowardice of others and their unwillingness to confront them. They take things to whatever limit there is. All you need is for people to put their foot down and poof, they’re gone. Fellow travelers find them a useful spearpoint to destroy traditional culture hence this tiny fraction of a minority gets magnified way beyond its microscopic size. All this is good hype for Chappelle’s show which will probably have record ratings as a result. A paranoid person could even imagine that this controversy was confected just for that purpose.

  93. @Thomas
    Plenty have wormed their way into the tech industry. The Wachowskis and their work are a case study in the appeal of the abstract world of technology to these particular misfits. Big tech has had to worry about internal dissent as a result. (Though Netflix may be the first to put their foot down.) That's one factor, at least.

    The trannies versus the blacks is the Godzilla vs. Kong of what passes for culture in this rotting empire.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @El Dato, @Peter Akuleyev

    Plenty have wormed their way into the tech industry

    They aren’t intruders, I would say the tech industry seems to foster that kind of tranny-ism. It is increasingly an issue in the SciFi community as well. Maybe hyper-imaginative creative men with poor social skills see transsexualism as some sort of refuge .

    • Replies: @Thomas
    @Peter Akuleyev

    It is not hard to see the appeal and natural fit of a pursuit that is based on abstraction and manipulation of reality to people who literally just can't even with the most basic, fundamental and unchangeable fact of their own biology. It is easy to imagine that tech trannies would wish that they could manipulate themselves by editing a few lines of code somewhere in the same way they can manipulate the systems they work on.

    Of course, the issue is that our broader social dynamics are in fact manipulated to some degree by the manipulation of those systems. What trends on Twitter or Facebook and what doesn't, for example, or what comes up on Google searches, has real world implications down the line.

    More broadly, I've said before we live in a "biophobic" age, in which basic facts of biological reality, about sex, race, genetics, ability, and now in many ways about disease and death, are effectively taboo.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

  94. And Sailer joins the hullaballoo about trannies while everyone ignores that ‘brilliant’ Chapelle’s gig included plenty of blatant anti-White ‘humor.’ Yet again celebrating as ‘based’ a standard anti-White black who occasionally demonstrates honesty or recognizes reality. You all are so very desperate for a non-White to front for you, to validate that you’re not really rayciss, just various ethnic HBD obsessives. What you aren’t is pro-White.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @adreadline
    @3g4me

    I'm still not sure about Sailer, and I'm aware that me being Brazilian (which is automatically mystery meat for Americans) will not exactly put me in your favor, but I have indeed noticed there very much appears to be a reluctance to explicitly defend Whites in many edgy notable individuals who the American globalist media decries as far-right and even White supremacist every time they're mentioned anyway.

    On the other hand, the edgy ones the media does not always identify as far-right/White supremacist are often explicitly anti-White (something that appears to come naturally for those of a certain group, but not only for those), "White'' being a downright pejorative in their view, and said fellows not rarely let us know they wouldn't spit on a White (or someone they perceived to be White) if he was on fire.

    , @AceDeuce
    @3g4me

    THANK YOU! I was just about to say something about that.

    That bucktoothed niqqur Chappelle is about as funny as a baby's open casket funeral. His unfunny routine is evidently hilarious to low IQ Gen X/ Milleniwipe White dudebros who grew up in the suburbs and robotically find anything a niggro does to be wonderful. Chappelle could take a dump on a plate and they'd applaud.

    In this most recent issue. Chappelle went on fricking record to "explain" that the butt of his jokes is meant to be White people. Phuck him. He lives in an all White area, he married a ghooker, and he was going nowhere with his corny schitt until Neal Brennan, a White cuck boi, became this brains of his outfit.

  95. @mc23
    "Fetishists in Frocks" , very nice. The truth hurts.

    I'd rather see them in frocks then bikinis.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Bill Jones

    Avoid The Daily Mail.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Dennis Dale

    Funny you should mention. Speaking of fetishists in frocks..

    https://i.ibb.co/t2dsMzc/Screenshot-20211016-073259-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Okay, apparently that's Page Six, but it was an ad in the Daily Mail.

    I'm just hoping it's not a targeted ad..

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

  96. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Thomas

    Plenty have wormed their way into the tech industry

    They aren't intruders, I would say the tech industry seems to foster that kind of tranny-ism. It is increasingly an issue in the SciFi community as well. Maybe hyper-imaginative creative men with poor social skills see transsexualism as some sort of refuge .

    Replies: @Thomas

    It is not hard to see the appeal and natural fit of a pursuit that is based on abstraction and manipulation of reality to people who literally just can’t even with the most basic, fundamental and unchangeable fact of their own biology. It is easy to imagine that tech trannies would wish that they could manipulate themselves by editing a few lines of code somewhere in the same way they can manipulate the systems they work on.

    Of course, the issue is that our broader social dynamics are in fact manipulated to some degree by the manipulation of those systems. What trends on Twitter or Facebook and what doesn’t, for example, or what comes up on Google searches, has real world implications down the line.

    More broadly, I’ve said before we live in a “biophobic” age, in which basic facts of biological reality, about sex, race, genetics, ability, and now in many ways about disease and death, are effectively taboo.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
    @Thomas

    "Basic facts" like man can't fly (obviously he'd need an enormous breastbone to support the wings) are relative to technology. Another reason why a sufficiently advanced technology is equivalent to "magic."

    Creationist types are at least consistent; they oppose science because it gives man the ability to change what God created (for his own good reasons). Conservatives want the science, but insist on treating one or more of their favorite items as a "basic fact" that only fools would want to change.

    "A conservative is someone for whom change, in the first instance, means loss" -- Joe Sobran, or Joe Sobran quoting Michael Oakeshott, I forget which.

    It's an understandable position, especially if you're on top of the heap, but don't pretend that the ones on the bottom will always have to "face facts."

    All those Right-wing absolutes -- men are men, democracy evolved to suit Western Europeans not Afghanis, etc. -- are relative to current technology. Soon genetic engineering will make all the Woke demands feasible -- brown bodies with white IQs, for instance -- and then what will your argument be?

    "Look out honey, ’cause I’m using technology! Eumaios, Evola, & Neville on Race"

    https://counter-currents.com/2021/03/eumaios-evola-neville-on-race/

  97. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Line from the special:

    “They after you Dave!”

    “One they or many theys?”

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

    What is the plural of “they”?

    Wrong answers only.

    • Replies: @Odin
    @Dennis Dale


    What is the plural of “they”?
    Wrong answers only.
     
    For southerners maybe they-all...?

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

  98. @megabar
    The acceptance that being trans is healthy, beautiful, and natural -- despite requiring modern surgery and medicine -- is literally the most absurd belief ever believed by a large group of people in history.

    Other beliefs are more harmful, or as silly since the advent of science. But none represent as great a gap between what should be obvious given the times, and what is accepted.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Altai, @Reactive Reaction

    Go to https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm

    It’s literally Pro-Ana. Instead of starving themselves thin or becoming bulimic they have their breast surgically removed and go on testosterone. It’s a cult. Even has the old Pro-Ana stuff of how to hide your chest binders or get drugs without your parents knowing etc.

    And the constant posts about them being confused or ‘figuring out’ their sexuality, gender identity etc. I’ve never seen a collection of people more inarticulate and unaware of their inner life.

    Every day another half dozen to dozen post surgery shots from adolescent or earlier 20s girls.

    • Agree: megabar
  99. @Arclight
    I have often wondered this - even the campus outrage mobs would go away if the institution in question basically told them to pound sand, took the 15 minutes of hate, and then just went about business as usual. Obviously there are executives/administrators that actually are all in on the concept of punishing the insufficiently woke, but at the end of the day signaling to your employees or clients that you will succumb to whatever the woke mob demands is going to create a much worse workplace and drive away talent.

    Replies: @Whiskey

    The outrage mob will not go away. First, the tech masters are terrified of their employees. Second, the employees have most of the power: social media, legacy media, the law, and other power centers will be aligned with the cancel culture. After all, what is more hostile working environment than having Dave Chappelle make jokes about trannies? Seriously that’s a huge violation of employment law as defined by various bureaucracies. Laws are made by regulatory bodies, and they move ever more hard left. The tech masters are not stupid — they have lots and lots of lawyers advising them as to what is what. Stupid people don’t elbow out all the other grifters to be first in line at the gravy train.

    And there is really no cost at all to canceling Chappelle which is what will happen. If he’d been Bill Burr he’d already be gone, but being black while protective armor is not protective enough.

    Power is defined and given to mostly young(ish) White women who are of course, always and forever hard, hard left. Defined by their hatred of 95% of all (White) men, embrace of every weirdo and freak, and wanting a matriarchal society. There are a variety of reasons for this but suffice it to say our ancestors were well aware of the nature of women and thus suppressed them for this reason.

    Netflix does not make money off subscribers. They don’t really care about how many subscribe, how many renew, and turnover. They make money off: A. stupid investors mostly hedge funds pouring money in; B. various back-door government subsidies to enable their propaganda. C. various back-door payouts “netflix-washed” to give say the Obamas \$200 million for “series.”

    If Netflix were interested in making money off subscribers they’d act differently. They’d create their own “universe” of company owned and created properties that all interacted with each other and appealed to the broadest possible audience and was serial in nature and as addictive as possible to get people hooked on the next episode. That however is hard, requires scouting and signing talent, operational excellence: cost of production low, pace of production high. And many other things that no one in Hollywood can do. Instead they basically just grift like Facebook, Twitter, etc. Selling your usage data is a big part of their business model. A lot more than your subscription fees.

  100. • Replies: @2BR
    @Adam Smith

    This is barely a joke. Chappelle isn’t funny anymore. He is lecturing exactly like the liberal comedians. And worse he sounds like he had a tracheotomy.

    Replies: @Veteran Aryan

  101. @JimB
    @JimDandy

    I think Steve’s theory is actually pretty good.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    It’s the ultimate anima possession.

  102. @AndrewR
    Being black and having eulogized Saint George "I cain't breeve" Floyd might not save Chappelle.

    Replies: @Catdompanj, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    It could be George’s first confirmed miracle.

  103. @Joe S.Walker
    They've also hitched themselves on to the gay wagon. This is logical to the average person's mind, but in fact for a long time the cross-dressing community insisted publicly that trans-ism and homosexuality were two different things. In 2005 Grayson Perry made a documentary for British TV called Why Men Wear Frocks, in which he visited and took part in a transvestite weekend gathering. He said "the vast majority of these men are completely heterosexual." It wasn't actually true, but that was still the party line then.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    That sound exactly like an actual Python sketch — but rather than dresses, surprise, they’re furries.

    Python fandom says:

    On The World Around Us, Arthur Jackson (John Cleese) is interviewed about his wish to be a mouse and his activities with fellow people who feel this way, throwing parties where they eat cheese and squeak.

    A consultant psychiatrist, Kargol (Graham Chapman) and his assistant, Janet (Carol Cleveland) present findings that 8 percent of the population are mice and admits that he, too, has felt attracted to mice. He states that this is normal. It is then presented that Julius Caesar, Napoleon, and Hilaire Belloc were also mice.

    People on the street are then interviewed on how they would react to people who are known to be mice and a film of a mouse party is shown, narrated by Arthur Jackson.

    Curiously, “for some reason” (nudge nudge, wink wink) the video clip, unlike every other Python bit, is hard to find, but here’s on with Spanish subtitles, for diversity points:

  104. @Paperback Writer
    @Dennis Dale

    That's true of effeminate homosexuals, but not this lot. As Steve points out, they are hypermasculine men who have a paraphilia, and they work out their paraphilia in a 100% masculine way: with dedication, teamwork, and controlled fury. Not terribly feminine, IMHO.

    Gay men's famous promiscuity is said to be a masculine characteristic. I disagree. It's female pickiness, but in a male body. Similarly gay men are bigger and better bitches than any woman can be, and that's saying a lot.

    Thing about gay men is that you can avoid them, although sometimes at a professional cost. You cannot avoid the regiment of dudes in dresses. They really are coming for you.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Dennis Dale

    I was going to say “pickiness” and promiscuity don’t go together, but actually they do. Cue the famous Randy Shilts quote about the brutal hierarchy of gay sexual attraction. I overheard a gay-sounding guy telling another that “tops” are mostly the more attractive guys, who get to dictate (please no puns).

    Even if you take out the masculine aspect of gay sexual relations, you still have a group of people for whom sex has had up until the “gay marriage” movement no relation to marriage or procreation, which still loom over even the most degenerate heterosexual environments. The dynamic of women choosing men who compete for them is gone, replaced only by, perhaps, the dynamic of the most desired choosing. Everyone is On the Make.

    Of course, with birth control and sexual liberation they’ve managed to make heterosexual culture resemble gay culture, at the same time crafting the image of the domestic gay, marrying, adopting, mimicking heterosexual relations. It’s quite remarkable what they’ve achieved: making heteros “gay” in their promiscuity, and gays “straight” in their domesticity.

    I watched part of a Sex and the City episode years ago and I realized the slut character (who gave a random dude a blow job) is a transposed gay cruiser. It all seems rather deliberate.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Dennis Dale


    I was going to say “pickiness” and promiscuity don’t go together, but actually they do.

     

    Right I wasn't clear about that in my previous comment but the way gay men do picky is different from the way women do, and I really don't think I need to get graphic here, it's pretty obvious.
    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Dennis Dale

    "I watched part of a Sex and the City episode years ago and I realized the slut character (who gave a random dude a blow job) is a transposed gay cruiser."

    IIRC, that show was written by gay guys.

    Replies: @Reactive Reaction

    , @Tracy
    @Dennis Dale

    Dennis Dale:
    I watched part of a Sex and the City episode years ago and I realized the slut character (who gave a random dude a blow job) is a transposed gay cruiser. It all seems rather deliberate.

    Sex and the City did a number on sex and marriage and all that sort of thing. The big gay "wedding" between Anthony and Standford includes these lines:


    Carrie Bradshaw, the Best Woman: "FYI, Anthony's out there telling everyone he's allowed to cheat."

    Stanford: "I know. He hates the traditions, so he pushes against them."

    Carrie Bradshaw: "So he's allowed to cheat?"

    Stanford: "Yes, but only in the 45 states where we're not legally married."
     
    Then Liza Minelli shows up to marry the couple. One of her lines, said after the audience laughs: "Quiet now! Weddings are serious. At least that's what I've heard."

    Such a mockery of marriage. Clip of all that from "Sex and the City 2" (2010): https://youtu.be/4g8w4ikcR5g

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  105. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Buzz Mohawk


    The majority of people who work in infotainment are midwits. Sometimes they drive into dead ends like this. It’s fun to watch, but unfortunately they have become apparatchiks of our time.
     
    Emily Bazelon may be a midwit but in such a case she is a highly credentialed midwit.

    It's more likely that the regnant PMC ideology has shifted, while unfortunately the internet is forever (or, at least both durable and easily searchable). In 2010 one advertised adherence to the PMC orthodoxy by proclaiming the moral superiority of women, and the PMC orthodoxy with regard to women was then very much tied up in female biology insofar as it was the distinguishing feature for which contraception and abortion was made necessary and part of the female identity. XX, referring to chromosomes, very clearly means (in contradistinction to XY). These are women's prerogatives, and the claim went, only true women (to exclude non-leftist women) had a right to have views about them - of XYs was demanded deference.

    In 2021, inclusion into the PMC elite status requires professed belief that "trans" people can change sexes by declaration and acclaim. Therefore "XX" excludes men who menstruate and have abortions (by implying that these are a woman's concern) as well as women who don't menstruate and have abortions (MtF - although there is a proportion which insists upon gynecological care in order to carry on the pretense).

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Well, “the regnant PMC ideology” you just described is insanity. It resembles the convoluted imaginings of a fantasy novelist who is trying too damn hard. It’s even beyond any science fiction that anyone would want to read.

    This is a case of The Emperor Wears No Clothes. Nothing more.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Well, “the regnant PMC ideology” you just described is insanity. It resembles the convoluted imaginings of a fantasy novelist who is trying too damn hard. It’s even beyond any science fiction that anyone would want to read.

    This is a case of The Emperor Wears No Clothes. Nothing more.

     

    The degree to which it is incongruous with observed reality is necessary for the PMC status-conscious to distinguish themselves from the non-elite masses.

    Any dope on the street can tell you with 99+% accuracy which passersby are men and which are women. Since this is well within the purview of an ordinary sort of person, rejecting it and imposing another contrary standard that is beyond the ken of the ordinary fellow is what distinguishes the status seeker.

    It takes a real refined elite sensibility to identify some of the men as women and some of the women as men and to feign sincerity the whole time.
  106. Surely, it’s all a turf (terf?) war about who gets to occupy the sacred pinnacle of the Totem Pole, an unfortunate metaphor, I know, in this purely anti phallic melee.

  107. @Polistra
    Out with the old, in with the new!

    https://i.ibb.co/9thLw75/Screenshot-20211015-060940-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Question. How long does it take to cancel a superannuated civil rights pioneer?

    Replies: @Altai, @J.Ross

    Woodson doesn’t understand. Abstract support for freedom of speech only has appeal to those with marginalised speech and a very small cohort of people. The rich and the influential support freedom of speech when it helps speech they like more than it does speech they don’t. When things reach an inflection point those same organisations will spend their time suppressing speech.

    See also this piece with the former head of the ACLU, Ira Glasser, who apparently can’t understand what happened to the ACLU even as the piece makes clear his own love and work for the organisation was very much ‘Who/Whom’.

    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/the-disintegration-of-the-aclu-james-kirchick

    What I suspect Woodson and Glasser find odd is that these new leaders are intent on provoking an ethnic conflict while they were happy to just disarm the core ethnic group. But once disarmed, rhetorically and of any validity of their collective interests the next step, endless attack by outgroup ethnocentrists was always assured. It was only a matter of time. Who was going to stop them?

    It’s like if the Wehrmacht invaded Poland but somebody flipped a switch and suddenly the German army was full of soldiers who would absolutely never defend each other when they came under attack. They’d only fight back if directly attacked individually. How long do you think they’d last against a Polish army that did work together no matter how much they initially outnumbered and outgunned the Poles? That’s the native populations of every Western European country (Except perhaps Denmark) and whites in the US.

    A thought experiment. How racist or violent would a non-white have to act towards white in a public setting before one white stood up for another in a clearly ethnocentric way?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Altai

    Right, the fear is gone. Despite all the hysteria about 'right-wing terrorism' it's obvious the average lefty agitator has no actual fear of such a thing. In the old days if they trash-talked whites too much they risked ending up like Alan Berg. That's unthinkable now.

  108. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Buzz Mohawk


    The universe necessarily requires differences that are complementary and work together. Thus male/female.
     
    I get what you're writing but this is not necessarily always so. There are creatures that can reproduce asexually. And there are vertebrate creatures which can legitimately change their sex from male to female during their life cycle and be capable of reproduction as both a male and later as a female. Groupers do this - they change from sperm producing male to egg laying female as they age.

    But the ancestors of humans and of Groupers branched off from one another a very, very, very long time ago in evolutionary history. It was at that point where a stratagem of sexual reproduction was settled upon forevermore. Humans are male and female, and the gametes of both are required for reproduction. Sex change is fascinating and amusing in fish, but impossible and ridiculous in humans.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    There are creatures that can reproduce asexually.

    Yes, yes, we know, but they are not even close to human.

    Sexual reproduction, +/-, is necessary for the existence of intelligent life. To deny two, and only two, sexes is to deny what is necessary for us to even be able to think about it.

    Think about it.

    I don’t care about groupers or even about grunion that slide up next to each other in the sand while the male comes on the female. There’s sex, baby!


    (I grabbed some on Seal Beach one night and we fried them at my sister’s place there. It’s called the grunion run. I got grunion cum on me.)

    Even that, though sexual, is sand-porn so beneath us as not to even matter in this discussion.

  109. @Ian Smith
    “ So, I took her to my crib and everything went well as planned
    But when she got undressed, it was a big old mess, Sheena was a man
    So, I threw him out, I don't fool around with no Oscar Meyer wiener
    You must be sure that the girl is pure for the Funky Cold Medina“

    Black men are disproportionately targeted for tranny surprises, so Chapelle is just sticking up for the brothers on this issue.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63ZIf2H9S0E

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    “Black men are disproportionately targeted for tranny surprises”

    Possibly unintentional fallout from the decades long media campaign to promote blek men as the ultimate MANifestation of masculinity. Trannies watch the same porn everyone else does, so why would they settle for some needle-dicked huwhite loser?

    Also, blek females are heavy on the testosterone as well (hence all the comments about Michelle Obama), so blek men are easier to fool.

    “so Chapelle is just sticking up for the brothers on this issue.”

    Including fellow comedian Eddie Murphy.

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    @James J O'Meara

    Did you say steak?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us_kiRP6cqI

  110. @Zpaladin
    It’s the latest battleground chosen by the anti-Christian anti-Western Civ left in the culture war. They are stalemated on the abortion front, losing on the gun front but clear victors on the gay front. So, they press on, looking for an issue that will make them look the moral superiors of those icky Christians. What wedge issue will divide Christians and make them look old, angry and out of touch? Trans.
    It antagonizes the Boomers and seems harmless fun. Just wear some makeup or a dress like Harry Styles. Just say you are non-binary and demand to be called ze/zim. Force your opponent to admit there are five lights.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. As it were.

  111. @Nimrod
    It's all part of the deranged idolatry of the self that has taken root in Western culture since the 1960s. Gender bending--i.e., biological reality--is the last frontier on the Long March to unmoor the self permanently from any kind of restraints.

    Of course Dave Chappelle has to go. Transgenderism isn't some side issue for obsessive ex SEALs or bodybuilders, it's the endpoint of the logic of modernity. Anyone who insists that restraints exist must be eliminated.

    The result of all of this is going to be a lot of wrecked, destroyed humans.

    Replies: @BB753

    Transgenderism can only be understood as a form of transhumanism.

  112. because without nazis your people can’t feel outraged. without nazis, steve’s people have no purpose in life. so they have to make up nazis.

  113. @CCZ
    It's all for the children, to protect them from emotional harm and allow them to express themselves as the "feminine" beings that they truly are!!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5od8Wuv_AAY

    Replies: @J1234

    Twice as many thumbs down votes as thumbs up votes, just what every insurance company wants for their ads. So, I guess youtube will be cancelling thumbs down votes in the near future?

    Steve asks:
    “Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World’s Most Popular Entertainers?”

    It’s culture vs. standard of living. I don’t know which will prevail, but the huge portion of the public that claims to despise wokeness generally loves their affluence more than they love their traditional values, so that’s the angle of attack the elite left uses. Ironically, as long as they feel they have too much to lose by confronting the most significant moral threat their culture has faced in several generations, those who oppose wokeness have lost. The confrontation will have to be a lot bigger than down votes on youtube.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @J1234


    Ironically, as long as they feel they have too much to lose by confronting the most significant moral threat their culture has faced in several generations, those who oppose wokeness have lost. The confrontation will have to be a lot bigger than down votes on youtube.
     
    This is why a lot of people are starting to believe the collapse will be the cure.
  114. @aNewBanner
    @JimDandy

    Rowling and Chappelle have Influence. Some random Dude in a Dress (DIAD) has Power because they can sue their employer for creating a hostile workplace environment. Eventually, a judge, sympathetic to the DIAD, will rule in their favor and punish the DIAD’s employer with a huge fine that will be extracted by men with guns if necessary. The judge will be sympathetic toward the DIAD because the judge dreams the ‘Dream’ - the vision of one homogeneous blob of humanity, without differentiation or distinction, without joy or pain, without gain or loss, with labor or effort, all united by a tepid humanism and controlled by a bureau of experts. Basically, they (meaning most everyone of importance in the real halls of power) think that they are leading us toward the blissful world of Lennon’s “Imagine”, though it tends more towards the Borg in reality.

    Let’s take Netflix for example. They are caught between Power (the DIAD) and Influence (Chappelle). Power always beats Influence in the long run, so Netflix will cave in the long run. Chappelle probably thinks that he’s too big and too connected to be cancelled, but he’s not. (Obama isn’t big enough to avoid being cancelled if the right conditions align.) That means that he’ll be canceled, in some way shape, manner, or form. If he does realize that he’s in danger, Chappelle has three options to resist. First, he can find some other lesser power to oppose Power and try to grind Netflix between them. That won’t work. It will just push Netflix into the arms of Power (which is capitalized for a reason) and accelerate Chappelle’s cancellation. Second, he could attempt to overthrow the leadership of Netflix through some complicated strategy, legal or otherwise. This approach has little chance of success. Even if it does succeed, he’ll immediately need to turn to the third option. He can oppose Power directly with all of the Influence at his disposal. This is a winning strategy, if, and only if, there is a critical mass pushing in the same direction at the same time to create enough POWER to destroy Power. This is also a dangerous strategy. If he doesn’t succeed, then he will be crushed. (See Cosby, Bill.) If he does succeed in creating critical mass, then it needs to be harnessed into a safe, reliable form. We want a well controlled fission reaction in a steel lined pressure vessel, not Hiroshima.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Almost Missouri, @Sick 'n Tired, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Thanks. Makes a lot of sense. I think there are genuine Titans of the Universe behind this mess, starting with Billionaire “Jennifer” Pritzger, and others of “her” stature.

  115. @JimDandy
    "Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World's Most Popular Entertainers?"

    I'd like an answer, please. Or at least a theory.

    Replies: @JimB, @aNewBanner, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Cato

    “Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World’s Most Popular Entertainers?”

    I’d like an answer, please. Or at least a theory.

    This is straightforward: Minoritarianism.

    We’ve are ruled this morally inverted official dogma where the highest good is not the interest of the nation–i.e. its normal, healthy, productive people–reproducing itself, but rather the interests of sanctified “minorities”.

    The trannies successfully attached themselves to that. And because trannies are the brand new “minority de jour”, a tiny group themselves and because there is a bit of normie pushback there is an extra frisson to fighting the “oppression” of trannies. It’s like the young men signing up in 1914. World War T is where the battle against evil reactionaries is right now! And people–especially narratively compliant young women–can demonstrate their exquisite virtue by “bravely” tweeting or cancelling the enemy.

    • Replies: @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia
    @AnotherDad

    Right. Minoritariasim has been noted also by Nassim Taleb.

    Go here:

    https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15#.z5ry4bucq

    His view is that the minority needs to reach a certain numerical percentage for their preferences to have sway over the majority, but I would take it one step further: a minority of the population has to AGREE with the status/wishes/needs of the minority, even if they aren't part of the minority group.

    And businesses go along, and why not? Especially if it's anodyne, though at times even if it isn't. At some point any product that can be labeled Gluten Free WILL be labeled Gluten Free. Path of least resistance. The Gluten Minority will have won.

  116. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Well, "the regnant PMC ideology" you just described is insanity. It resembles the convoluted imaginings of a fantasy novelist who is trying too damn hard. It's even beyond any science fiction that anyone would want to read.

    This is a case of The Emperor Wears No Clothes. Nothing more.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Well, “the regnant PMC ideology” you just described is insanity. It resembles the convoluted imaginings of a fantasy novelist who is trying too damn hard. It’s even beyond any science fiction that anyone would want to read.

    This is a case of The Emperor Wears No Clothes. Nothing more.

    The degree to which it is incongruous with observed reality is necessary for the PMC status-conscious to distinguish themselves from the non-elite masses.

    Any dope on the street can tell you with 99+% accuracy which passersby are men and which are women. Since this is well within the purview of an ordinary sort of person, rejecting it and imposing another contrary standard that is beyond the ken of the ordinary fellow is what distinguishes the status seeker.

    It takes a real refined elite sensibility to identify some of the men as women and some of the women as men and to feign sincerity the whole time.

  117. @Adam Smith
    In New Netflix Special, Dave Chappelle Reads From A Biology Textbook

    https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/article-9658-1.jpg

    Replies: @2BR

    This is barely a joke. Chappelle isn’t funny anymore. He is lecturing exactly like the liberal comedians. And worse he sounds like he had a tracheotomy.

    • Replies: @Veteran Aryan
    @2BR

    The 'Babylon Bee' disagrees.

    Replies: @2BR

  118. @Bardon Kaldian
    To quote myself ....

    In the Olympiad of Suffering, it is, basically:

    Tranny privilege trumps Gay privilege.

    Gay privilege trumps black privilege.

    Black privilege trumps womyn privilege.

    Womyn privilege trumps Jew privilege.

    Jew privilege trumps Hispanic privilege.

    Hispanic privilege trumps white privilege.

    White privilege trumps Martian pri….

    Oops, there are no Martians…

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Buzz Mohawk, @Daniel Chieh

    You have the hierarchy correct, Bardon. Two things to note:
    Where are Asians on the list?
    And – obvious opportunity for whites, hispanics, and asians to make a mutual self-defense pact against the rest. Most hispanics and asians are normal people who don’t want to live with black crime and tranny delusions.

    • Replies: @Eric Novak
    @rebel yell

    Most Hispanics need the $18,000 in EITC/ACTC checks, FHA mortgages, and AA job set-asides, so they will continue to vote 70/30 for blacks and trannies.

  119. @Mike Tre
    "As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture."

    How many Navy Seals have you met? Because I have met and interacted with several dozen when I was in the Marines. Each of the two deployments I did my platoon was on the same ship as the Seal team (and a MC Force Recon platoon.)

    I found the Seals to be friendly, if understandably a bit aloof. They were not pushy, ignorant, or demanding. They did not use their status as elite warriors to gain favor or intimidate normal servicemen or start fights or any of those things we see tranny's do on a regular basis.

    I think Steve is confusing obsessiveness with staunch discipline in his comparison. Not to mention the fact that tranny's are mentally ill to some extent. The aggression that tranny's exhibit is more along the lines of negro aggression: Uncontrolled and driven by emotion. It is enhanced by the lack of consequences directed towards them. The aggression Seals exhibit is calculated, controlled, and focused.

    In short, Steve needs to stop associating masculinity (a positive thing) with the deranged behavior of mentally ill perverts, and to a lesser extent, violent negro behavior.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Matt Buckalew, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    I found the Seals to be friendly, if understandably a bit aloof. They were not pushy, ignorant, or demanding. They did not use their status as elite warriors to gain favor or intimidate normal servicemen or start fights or any of those things we see tranny’s do on a regular basis.

    SEALS, like other Operators, are the quiet, unassuming guys sitiing in the back of the room, working out in their heads the best way to kill everyone else in the room if the need arises. Trannies should be so thoughtful.

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @BB753
    @The Alarmist

    Not so fast! And this Navy Seal is not the first to come out as transgendered!
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/transgender-navy-seal-kristin-beck_n_3383015

  120. @Bardon Kaldian
    To quote myself ....

    In the Olympiad of Suffering, it is, basically:

    Tranny privilege trumps Gay privilege.

    Gay privilege trumps black privilege.

    Black privilege trumps womyn privilege.

    Womyn privilege trumps Jew privilege.

    Jew privilege trumps Hispanic privilege.

    Hispanic privilege trumps white privilege.

    White privilege trumps Martian pri….

    Oops, there are no Martians…

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Buzz Mohawk, @Daniel Chieh

    There sure are a lot of Trumps there. Apparently they Trump everything.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  121. ‘…the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture…’

    Somebody’s probably already suggested it, but wouldn’t The Ex-Men make a pretty good Marvel Comics title?

    A children’s show? Educational television?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Colin Wright

    The ex-men have had something of a sci-fi aspect since Heinlein wrote about sex change operations in the 1950s. The guy I knew is the closest thing to a Heinlein hero this side of James Cameron.

  122. @Mike Tre
    "As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture."

    How many Navy Seals have you met? Because I have met and interacted with several dozen when I was in the Marines. Each of the two deployments I did my platoon was on the same ship as the Seal team (and a MC Force Recon platoon.)

    I found the Seals to be friendly, if understandably a bit aloof. They were not pushy, ignorant, or demanding. They did not use their status as elite warriors to gain favor or intimidate normal servicemen or start fights or any of those things we see tranny's do on a regular basis.

    I think Steve is confusing obsessiveness with staunch discipline in his comparison. Not to mention the fact that tranny's are mentally ill to some extent. The aggression that tranny's exhibit is more along the lines of negro aggression: Uncontrolled and driven by emotion. It is enhanced by the lack of consequences directed towards them. The aggression Seals exhibit is calculated, controlled, and focused.

    In short, Steve needs to stop associating masculinity (a positive thing) with the deranged behavior of mentally ill perverts, and to a lesser extent, violent negro behavior.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Matt Buckalew, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    The aggression that tranny’s exhibit is more along the lines of negro aggression: Uncontrolled and driven by emotion.

    Not the masculine older “Ex-Men” trannies. One tactic they use is performative outrage and umbrage: “It’s Ma’am!” They know what they’re doing.

    The aggression Seals exhibit is calculated, controlled, and focused.

    Same with the masculine older shemales. They attempt to intimidate though performative histrionics and relentless aggression. It’s a calculated psyops tactic (and maybe physical tactic if challenged in person).

    In short, Steve needs to stop associating masculinity (a positive thing) with the deranged behavior of mentally ill perverts

    But Steve is right: Among “Ex-Men” faux filles there is a significant Venn intersection between “masculine” and “mentally ill perverts”, e.g. that classic clip of brute Zoey Tur threatening Ben Shapiro:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/why-do-fetishists-in-frocks-have-even-a-fighting-chance-of-cancelling-the-worlds-most-popular-entertainers/#comment-4955209

    • Disagree: Mike Tre
  123. The function of the press is to point South so that people can know which way North lies.

    • LOL: AnotherDad
  124. @2BR
    @Adam Smith

    This is barely a joke. Chappelle isn’t funny anymore. He is lecturing exactly like the liberal comedians. And worse he sounds like he had a tracheotomy.

    Replies: @Veteran Aryan

    The ‘Babylon Bee’ disagrees.

    • Replies: @2BR
    @Veteran Aryan

    They should try and watch him instead of reading the news about him. I don’t want to censor him, just want some better material. This is not a joke: : "Gender is a fact. Every human being in this room, every human being on Earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on Earth. That is a fact."
    Yeah, I agree. But that’s not a joke.

  125. @JimDandy
    "Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World's Most Popular Entertainers?"

    I'd like an answer, please. Or at least a theory.

    Replies: @JimB, @aNewBanner, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Cato

    Because the entertainers are the last wave. This is the new wave.

  126. https://palladiummag.com/2021/10/11/the-triumph-and-terror-of-wang-huning/

  127. @Altai
    Conservative MP who was prominent Brexiteer and trans-skeptic (And general anti-LGBT) stabbed several times today. Was he stabbed by an immigrant who felt personally attacked by Brexit (And egged on by a hysterical media) or was he stabbed by a MTF or was he stabbed by a gay man? (And egged on by a hysterical social media)

    https://www.rt.com/uk/537586-uk-mp-david-amess-stabbed-church/

    BBC still hasn't reported it, others are saying a 'man' stabbed him. But perhaps like so many MTF, he just didn't pass.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @YetAnotherAnon, @Graham, @Obstinate Cymric

    He has died. The murderer was a 25-year-old Somali. RIP.

  128. @The Alarmist
    @Mike Tre


    I found the Seals to be friendly, if understandably a bit aloof. They were not pushy, ignorant, or demanding. They did not use their status as elite warriors to gain favor or intimidate normal servicemen or start fights or any of those things we see tranny’s do on a regular basis.
     
    SEALS, like other Operators, are the quiet, unassuming guys sitiing in the back of the room, working out in their heads the best way to kill everyone else in the room if the need arises. Trannies should be so thoughtful.

    Replies: @BB753

    Not so fast! And this Navy Seal is not the first to come out as transgendered!
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/transgender-navy-seal-kristin-beck_n_3383015

  129. @Buzz Mohawk
    @megabar


    The acceptance that being trans is healthy, beautiful, and natural — despite requiring modern surgery and medicine — is literally the most absurd belief ever believed by a large group of people in history.
     
    I would say "one of the most absurd," but yeah.

    It goes along with the idea that every human consciousness is simply an entity, a sexless soul of some kind. Well, this Deist believes each of us is a mind, a conscious piece of God, if you will, but he does not deny the existence of sex. Sex was created by God.

    One is born with a sex.

    That is obvious. We live in a time of denial of the obvious. What Steve Sailer mostly writes about is the obvious. The obvious that most, for some reason, will not acknowledge.

    Our task is to ask why so many people will not acknowledge the obvious.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @James J O'Meara

    “Well, this Deist believes each of us is a mind, a conscious piece of God, if you will, but he does not deny the existence of sex. Sex was created by God.”

    The rise of transsexualism may be related to Christianity. Now, hear me out.

    Christianity was originally an apocalyptic cult (one of several in 1st century Palestine), which taught the equality of the sexes, forbade marriage and children, etc. All of which makes sense if you think sex is bad and the world is ending in a few weeks (cf. the Wokester who “doesn’t want to bring children into this sick world”), but also has a theoretical basis: sex is the beginning of all the subsequent divisions: male/female, Jew/gentile, black/white, rich/poor, etc., which “are as one in Christ.” As a later Protestant cult said “When Adam delved and Eve span/Who then was a gentleman?”

    Of course, the world didn’t end, Christ didn’t reappear (the Gnostics taught a “realized eschatology” which meant that the Second Coming had already occurred at baptism), so while some fell away, others tried to “reinterpret” the traditions so that one could continue to live in, rather than shun, the sinful world. Robert M. Price calls this the “embourgeois-fication of religion”. Sex isn’t shunned but more or less closely regulated, prophecy is replaced by dogma, a hierarchy is installed, etc. The process can be traced as the Epistles progress, from “I would that all men were like me” and talking in tongues to “Bishops must have only one wife” and women must be silent. Celibacy is honored but only in the clergy or monks and nuns. This is the “religion that made the West” as pro-Christian conservatives like to say.

    [MORE]

    Thing of it is, since Christianity is still essentially apocalyptic, every now and then that breaks out; not just in cults: Protestantism itself was such an outbreak, overthrowing the hierarchy with the “priesthood of all believers.” And remember “All men are created equal”? It’s a medium if not short step from “In Christ there is no male or female, Jew or gentile” to Equity, which is why the Protestant churches got Woke first and are still the hardest Woke.

    So transsexualism is another apocalyptic cult: as you say, we are “really” just minds, equal shares in the Divine Mind, but sex, like the material world (one being the cause of the other, however you prefer the order) divides and deludes us. When you say above that “God created sex” you are endorsing the bourgeois accommodation: “hey, religion is fine in its place, but ya gotta get married and have kids, buddy.”

    The transsexual rejects the idea that “anatomy is destiny” as conservatives like to intone: anatomy, like all other limitations, is a cruel prison, which we are learning to overcome. The Woke believe, like the primitive Christians, that all distinctions and divisions are not God’s will but the Devil’s trickery. Like the Logos, Science will save us, by breaking the power of genetics, matter, whatever.

    The relation to Transhumanism is obvious. And so of course the Wacky Brothers made an gnostic, apocalyptic film.

    This works for race, too; genetic engineering will produce what one author calls “brown bodies with white IQs” and then where is your “white nationalism”? “Oh, actually, it is the skin color we don’t like.” Well, don’t worry: genetic engineering will make the whole Woke agenda practical. Want to impose democracy on Afghanistan? Reprogram them. Still racist? We’ll take that out too.

    Gnosticism + genetics = Wokeism/Transsexualism/Transhumanism. As Iggy Pop said years ago, “Look out honey, ’cause I’m using technology!”

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @James J O'Meara

    Thanks. That's interesting.

    Perhaps one quibble. To me you wrote:


    ... as you say, we are “really” just minds, equal shares in the Divine Mind, but sex, like the material world (one being the cause of the other, however you prefer the order) divides and deludes us. When you say above that “God created sex” you are endorsing the bourgeois accommodation...
     
    I suspect were are male and female minds and that we are one or the other from birth. I think this has been proven via various experiments and studies of brain physiology, but I don't really have that knowledge. I strongly doubt we are neuter minds.

    The material part of reality is necessary for the mental, and the two are intertwined. (Hey, like male and female!) You can't have one without the other. There is some mystery to this, and our little, male and female minds can't quite grasp it.

    As for being a bourgeois man, I will happily admit to it. Everyone who sees the world through Marxist glasses either secretly is one or wants to be one.

    , @bomag
    @James J O'Meara

    Dunno.

    Most every religion had teachings for procreation (be fruitful and multiply).

    I wonder how the Shakers explained that away.

  130. @El Dato
    @Thomas


    Big tech has had to worry about internal dissent as a result.
     
    Isn't it mostly "Internet companies" that are disproportionately affected, or niche sectors like "gaming journalism"?

    I haven't heard about problems in companies designing bespoke circuit boards etc.

    Replies: @Thomas

    I couldn’t really speak to that, not being that connected to that subsector of the tech industry. That sector doesn’t have the same high public profile nor intersection with these hot button cultural issues wherein they would be relevant. I could certainly believe that a more hard science- and engineering-based subsector would be less welcome to people suffering from delusions about basic facts of the material world.

  131. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    To try to prevent being canceled in the near future, Slate should attribute its transphobic DoubleX articles to “Authors” :


    They Almost Called It Moxie

    A conversation with the founders of the [redacted] section as we bid it a fond farewell.

    By Author, Author, Author, and Author
    Jan 16, 2018 5:55 AM
     

    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1448218079587024896

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    For reasons.

  132. @Thomas
    @Peter Akuleyev

    It is not hard to see the appeal and natural fit of a pursuit that is based on abstraction and manipulation of reality to people who literally just can't even with the most basic, fundamental and unchangeable fact of their own biology. It is easy to imagine that tech trannies would wish that they could manipulate themselves by editing a few lines of code somewhere in the same way they can manipulate the systems they work on.

    Of course, the issue is that our broader social dynamics are in fact manipulated to some degree by the manipulation of those systems. What trends on Twitter or Facebook and what doesn't, for example, or what comes up on Google searches, has real world implications down the line.

    More broadly, I've said before we live in a "biophobic" age, in which basic facts of biological reality, about sex, race, genetics, ability, and now in many ways about disease and death, are effectively taboo.

    Replies: @James J O'Meara

    “Basic facts” like man can’t fly (obviously he’d need an enormous breastbone to support the wings) are relative to technology. Another reason why a sufficiently advanced technology is equivalent to “magic.”

    Creationist types are at least consistent; they oppose science because it gives man the ability to change what God created (for his own good reasons). Conservatives want the science, but insist on treating one or more of their favorite items as a “basic fact” that only fools would want to change.

    “A conservative is someone for whom change, in the first instance, means loss” — Joe Sobran, or Joe Sobran quoting Michael Oakeshott, I forget which.

    It’s an understandable position, especially if you’re on top of the heap, but don’t pretend that the ones on the bottom will always have to “face facts.”

    All those Right-wing absolutes — men are men, democracy evolved to suit Western Europeans not Afghanis, etc. — are relative to current technology. Soon genetic engineering will make all the Woke demands feasible — brown bodies with white IQs, for instance — and then what will your argument be?

    “Look out honey, ’cause I’m using technology! Eumaios, Evola, & Neville on Race”

    https://counter-currents.com/2021/03/eumaios-evola-neville-on-race/

  133. @Altai
    Conservative MP who was prominent Brexiteer and trans-skeptic (And general anti-LGBT) stabbed several times today. Was he stabbed by an immigrant who felt personally attacked by Brexit (And egged on by a hysterical media) or was he stabbed by a MTF or was he stabbed by a gay man? (And egged on by a hysterical social media)

    https://www.rt.com/uk/537586-uk-mp-david-amess-stabbed-church/

    BBC still hasn't reported it, others are saying a 'man' stabbed him. But perhaps like so many MTF, he just didn't pass.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon, @YetAnotherAnon, @Graham, @Obstinate Cymric

  134. OT but a British MP has been murdered during his surgery, and a Somali is the main suspect.

    They will of course call it ‘terror’ because this has become a reason that people don’t question.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @al gore rhythms

    "but a British MP has been murdered during his surgery"

    What do the English use the word "surgery" to mean? I also saw that the poor dead man's wife is his "caseworker," which sounds to me like if, say, Alden married some criminal she was overseeing at the probation office, but I don't think "caseworker" means the same thing in Britain.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms

  135. Anon[160] • Disclaimer says:

    The key words are Fetishists in Frocks and Entertainers.

    Trannies are attention seekers. Most of the crazy left is. They’re all Cluster B on the psychological personality disorder scale. The creation of the internet gave them a whole new venue to seek attention on. But the average attention hog also finds the internet HORRIFYING, because there are so many other attention hogs fighting it out for territory. There are millions of them on Youtube, Tiktok, Instagram, Twitter, etc. Attention hogs see these outlets as pure Darwinian cage matches in which they must fight to the death to seize territory from other attention hogs.

    Remember, these people are crazy. They’re Cluster B. When you MUST have attention or you’ll just DIE from the agony of being ignored, and you’re suddenly aware of all this competition, what do you do?

    You escalate your behavior, that’s what.

    Before the internet, a tranny may have dressed up and acted out at home in front of a mirror, but dressed normally in front of others except for a few female gestures and femme words to rattle the bourgeoisie every now and then. But after the internet, with all this competition from millions of others trying to do the same thing, your average tranny (and a lot of leftists) have gone into shock from the vast number of others who are better at getting attention and who make him or her feel ignored and unappreciated.

    So what happens? They become wilder and try to outdo each other in being outrageous. Where they may have signaled LOOK AT ME a hundred times a day, they now signal ten thousands times a day. Footnote: Leftists virtue signal for attention. There’s no reason to do it otherwise. When a whole internet full of leftists are all virtue signaling for attention, they all become more shrill and frantic just to make themselves stand out from the crowd.

    Trannies attack everyone else who has an audience to take that audience away and fix it on themselves. Professional entertainers are a special target because they have a huge audience, and all that attention on somebody else drives trannies crazy with jealousy. So trannies go after them. The internet has given trannies the chance to get as much attention as a professional entertainer, so trannies plunge headlong into the opportunity.

    One of the best ways to quell a leftist who’s rattling on is to ignore them completely. Pretend that everyone else in the room is more interesting than the shrieking leftist (which they usually are).

    This is one reason why it is imperative to leftists (and trannies) to silence everyone else. They can’t stand it when attention is focused anywhere except on themselves, so they try to knock others right off the internet. They try to bring down websites and ruin careers without shame or hesitation. It’s jealousy that’s driving them. It’s ALWAYS jealousy.

  136. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @megabar


    The acceptance that being trans is healthy, beautiful, and natural — despite requiring modern surgery and medicine — is literally the most absurd belief ever believed by a large group of people in history.
     
    There's some social cognitive loop where certain bare social graces (i.e. don't point, gawk, and laugh at the weirdo) get ossified over time into a substantive denial of the truth of things.

    We write a lot here about race and crime and race and IQ. But there was a time when the more salient aspects of this were able to be discussed because they are of public import, and issues which consume a lot of our politics (crime and punishment, racial wealth/achievement gaps). So even when you could discuss them substantively, it would have been bad manners to meet a black American on the bus or in line at the grocery store and unnecessarily broach the subjects of race and crime or race and IQ. We understand that in purely social or civic settings this is an insult even if true. But at some point this concern for politeness and social harmony itself overcame the the substantive issues - or, rather, Americans' politeness and desire to get along was exploited and turned against them. So now in the PMC orthodoxy it's not impolite to talk about race and crime and race and IQ when discussing racial wealth and achievement gaps and crime, punishment and incarceration policy, it's all simply deemed false.

    That's more or less what happened with our coterie of sexual minority identities which require ever more ridiculous denials of truth from the rest of us - we always very quickly go from the premise that one shouldn't attack them physically to not speaking in a manner which would be deemed offensive by ever more sensitive types and on to a social requirement that one affirm the proprieties of their identities.

    You will perhaps notice that the left is never required to observe even the most basic social conventions, and elements of it revel in constant and superfluous insult of whites, Christians, Americans, etc. They seem to be holding the edge of the discourse by denying even the most basic of social graces to outgroups (while simultaneously demanding deference from the outgroups for its constituent ingroups).

    So in this sense demanding concessions from Chappelle and Netflix is necessary to their project. They didn't get him this time, but there remains a pour encourager les autres logic to even this loss. It is understood that you will need to be at least as financially independent, popular, and black as Chappelle to survive the the costs incurred for even slightest act of non-deference towards the Alphabet mob.

    Replies: @megabar

    That’s a good, thoughtful post. No doubt, politeness is a part of it. But even a passive, polite person will reject obvious falsehoods, if only privately. And, put in a position of power, will not advocate for bad policies.

    I think the problem is that we have an academic system that actively appeals to people who aren’t, on average, socially typical. Even with good intentions on all sides, it’s a bad idea to take a set of people who are weird and tell them to go off and decide how to run a society. But we did, and they did.

    When you have credentialed “experts” saying insane things, you can’t just ignore it, especially when those people are in charge of education. You have to explicitly refute it, and doing so would violate the politeness principle you mentioned. And so few do, which means that the indoctrination is allowed to run rampart, which is why even smart, decent, normies buy into a lot of this nonsense today.

    The lessons? Require the truth in all matters of importance, don’t ignore the slippery slope, and don’t allow weirdos to have influence on social policy. The last is easier said than done, though, because they are drawn to it.

  137. @Harry Baldwin
    @Paperback Writer

    The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix Revolutions sucked, so we may reasonably expect that the next one will suck as well.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Sick 'n Tired

    True, however the Media Industrial Complex will double down with favorable reviews and good buzz to try to turn it into a hit.

  138. @Dennis Dale
    @Paperback Writer

    I was going to say "pickiness" and promiscuity don't go together, but actually they do. Cue the famous Randy Shilts quote about the brutal hierarchy of gay sexual attraction. I overheard a gay-sounding guy telling another that "tops" are mostly the more attractive guys, who get to dictate (please no puns).

    Even if you take out the masculine aspect of gay sexual relations, you still have a group of people for whom sex has had up until the "gay marriage" movement no relation to marriage or procreation, which still loom over even the most degenerate heterosexual environments. The dynamic of women choosing men who compete for them is gone, replaced only by, perhaps, the dynamic of the most desired choosing. Everyone is On the Make.

    Of course, with birth control and sexual liberation they've managed to make heterosexual culture resemble gay culture, at the same time crafting the image of the domestic gay, marrying, adopting, mimicking heterosexual relations. It's quite remarkable what they've achieved: making heteros "gay" in their promiscuity, and gays "straight" in their domesticity.

    I watched part of a Sex and the City episode years ago and I realized the slut character (who gave a random dude a blow job) is a transposed gay cruiser. It all seems rather deliberate.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Nicholas Stix, @Tracy

    I was going to say “pickiness” and promiscuity don’t go together, but actually they do.

    Right I wasn’t clear about that in my previous comment but the way gay men do picky is different from the way women do, and I really don’t think I need to get graphic here, it’s pretty obvious.

  139. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Paperback Writer


    Boho enclaves are, let’s face it, pleasant and tend to attract smart people who, underneath it all, know the score. They want good schools and functional businesses.
     
    Include Boulder, Colorado on your list.

    Said enclaves mostly attract younger people who get there and end up waiting tables or making lattes. Those people, even the ones who are trust fund recipients and never have to work (they are legion) rent first and don't have anything to do with the governance of where they live. Only the wealthiest of them do eventually. Most move on back to wherever they came from and where their wealthy parents live.

    WTF does this have to do with Dave Chappelle?

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    WTF does this have to do with Dave Chappelle?

    One of the commenters mentioned that Chappelle’s home town of Yellow Springs, Ohio is something of a hipster/boho enclave, and that Chappelle’s presence is making it very trendy. So I chimed in that the best places to live are hipster enclaves that are under the radar.

    Only problem with Boulder is that it’s in a disgustingly blue state.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Paperback Writer

    Democrats didn't get more than 50% of the presidential vote in Colorado until 2008 so it is not exactly DEEP blue. It's pretty recent.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Paperback Writer

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Paperback Writer


    Only problem with Boulder is that it’s in a disgustingly blue state.
     
    Colorado Biden vote: 55%
    Boulder County Biden vote: 77%

    Anyone have Boulder city's?

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  140. The NYT article is pure BS, fake news in the most literal sense, and all the top-rated comments on it are calling it out. Nothing in the article supports the headline’s assertion that Netflix is “losing its glow.” The article mentions complaints by a handful of staffers, an internal discussion wherein management stood by its decision to air the special, and then it includes some BS quotes from activist types.

    But nothing is happening to Netflix! Its subscriber base will continue to grow, its shows will continue to gain popularity, and its profits will go up. This article is a transparent effort to manufacture news by declaring that Netflix is “in trouble” for doing something that a tiny percentage of people have a problem with. Again, look at the NYT reader comments on that article (and on pretty much any NYT article on the subject of Wokeness for which they allow comments). Mainstream liberals are fed up and (at long last) speaking out.

  141. Chappelle actively supports the murderous anti-white regime in SA.

  142. England Is Under Attack From A Ruling Class-Sponsored Mass Immigration Invasion

    Boris Johnson and the nasty scum in the treasonous Tory Party are colluding with all elements of the English Ruling Class to flood out the historic English nation with mass illegal immigration and mass legal immigration.

    The English Ruling Class must be politically decapitated and removed from power.

    ENGLAND FOR THE ENGLISH!

  143. @Steve Sailer
    @Elmer T. Jones

    Which liberal abolitionist Ohio college are Dave Chappelle's parents associated with? Antioch? Oberlin?

    When the brilliant black guy who is the most distinguished scion of almost 200 years of extremely progressive culture thinks you are nuts, you are nuts.

    Replies: @New Dealer, @Paperback Writer, @Jack D, @Curle, @Corvinus, @Anon

    RBG thought that football knee-takers were nuts, but the Overton Window of nuttiness travels to the left on greased rails at the speed of a shinkansen so it’s hard for older people to keep up.

    There was recently a piece saying that Katie Kouric had covered up for RBG.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10088027/Katie-Couric-admits-editing-Ruth-Bader-Ginsburg-interview-protect-late-justice.html

    In an interview, RBG had said something that would have caused her to be cancelled (to the extent that you can cancel an appointed for life Justice) to the effect that football players who took the knee were being stupid and ungrateful because America had granted them untold riches vs. the grass hut they would have been living in back in Africa. Kouric attributed this to her senility and left it out of the broadcast. She also forget to tell her viewers that the Justice was senile. I’m sure she would have done the same for an elderly white male conservative Justice (sarc). I guess we’ll get to read about Joe Biden’s senility while in the White House maybe 2 or 3 years after his death.

  144. @Mike Tre
    "As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture."

    How many Navy Seals have you met? Because I have met and interacted with several dozen when I was in the Marines. Each of the two deployments I did my platoon was on the same ship as the Seal team (and a MC Force Recon platoon.)

    I found the Seals to be friendly, if understandably a bit aloof. They were not pushy, ignorant, or demanding. They did not use their status as elite warriors to gain favor or intimidate normal servicemen or start fights or any of those things we see tranny's do on a regular basis.

    I think Steve is confusing obsessiveness with staunch discipline in his comparison. Not to mention the fact that tranny's are mentally ill to some extent. The aggression that tranny's exhibit is more along the lines of negro aggression: Uncontrolled and driven by emotion. It is enhanced by the lack of consequences directed towards them. The aggression Seals exhibit is calculated, controlled, and focused.

    In short, Steve needs to stop associating masculinity (a positive thing) with the deranged behavior of mentally ill perverts, and to a lesser extent, violent negro behavior.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Matt Buckalew, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    An important proviso to this: Steve is an extremely meek very tall man and he’s sensitive to this aspect of his personality. Steve is a nice man but because of his height he is a bit of a frustrated nice man.

    Now for the main part- Steve’s entire theory of trans behavior originated in the fact that one day when looking up the highest paid female executives he stumbled on the fact that the classroom bully of his business school- who was at the time male- was now the worlds highest paid “female” executive. Naturally Steve reflected back on his time at UCLA and no doubt the instances when a guy far shorter than him nonetheless wiped the floor Steve and presto a theory was born.

    Steve works a lot like Malcolm gladwell- Steve as mentioned above is nowhere as charismatic as the ex college jock Gladwell- but his process is similar. An interesting observation spawns a long term effort to erect a superstructure over an anecdote.

    • Replies: @undisclosed
    @Matt Buckalew

    We all work in a similar fashion...including yourself as you developed this theory about Steve as theorizer.

    But I don't really see Steve doing much theorizing here.

    Until 5 years ago to be an out and out tranny you had to have some really big balls.

    Until 20 years ago to be an out and out gay you had to be quite brave.

    Is Caitlyn Jenner brave? He certainly is (though I'll call him Caitlyn because who cares).

    Deciding that you are a woman because of whatever your reasons and actually doing so publicly is incredibly brave -- until Bruce Jenner did it. These days it isn't beave anymore so plenty of SealTeam2 and 3 people are getting in on it too.

    To announce your discovery of Jewish ancestry in Germany in 1935 would have been brave, in 2021 -- not brave.

    Men who lead the way in ANY endeavor, good, bad or retarded are ALWAYS brave men. Ballsy men. Masculine men.

    Even further than that -- WOMEN who lead the way in any endeavor are the most masculine of women.

    Femininity does not lead.

    Masculinity leads or gets out of the way or stands IN the way. Femininity follows. Be it femininity amongst women or amongst men.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew

    , @Lurker
    @Matt Buckalew


    the classroom bully of his business school- who was at the time male
     
    And still is.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew

  145. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Altai

    He's died.


    14:30
    Counter-terror police assisting investigation
    Vikram Dodd

    The Guardian understands counter-terrorism police are assisting the investigation into the stabbing, which continues to be led by the local force, Essex police.

    Senior counter-terrorism officials are closely monitoring the situation and are being updated on emerging details of the attack and the suspect, who is in custody. They usually stay involved in such an investigation until a non-terrorist motive is identified
     

    Friday is traditional Islamist terror day, but it could just be that he was targeted and that happened to be his day for meeting constituents.

    The tweeter, a Welsh Nationalist, used to be a Police and Crime Commissioner (a civilian oversight post)


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBv2AlvXEAE950K.jpg

    Replies: @Rob McX, @J.Ross

    Unfortunately this is what happens when you have a government that divides and rules and s̶o̶w̶s̶ imports hate, fear and division. Somebody, somewhere, will respond violently.

  146. @Bardon Kaldian
    To quote myself ....

    In the Olympiad of Suffering, it is, basically:

    Tranny privilege trumps Gay privilege.

    Gay privilege trumps black privilege.

    Black privilege trumps womyn privilege.

    Womyn privilege trumps Jew privilege.

    Jew privilege trumps Hispanic privilege.

    Hispanic privilege trumps white privilege.

    White privilege trumps Martian pri….

    Oops, there are no Martians…

    Replies: @rebel yell, @Buzz Mohawk, @Daniel Chieh

    Tranny privilege trumps Gay privilege.

    One of the most amusing things I’ve ever seen was a tranny bully a lesbian into silence because the lesbian expressed an attraction to women; this is offensive to fake women, of course.

    It was a great example of your maxims here.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Daniel Chieh

    They really need to publish a schedule of intersectional Pokemon points so that the outcome of any interaction could be predetermined. For example, if there is a dispute between a handicapped Latinx female and a white transwoman, who wins? If you could just look at your cheat card, then you wouldn't have to actually have the fight - the loser could just concede in advance.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

  147. @Paperback Writer
    @Buzz Mohawk


    WTF does this have to do with Dave Chappelle?

     

    One of the commenters mentioned that Chappelle's home town of Yellow Springs, Ohio is something of a hipster/boho enclave, and that Chappelle's presence is making it very trendy. So I chimed in that the best places to live are hipster enclaves that are under the radar.

    Only problem with Boulder is that it's in a disgustingly blue state.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar

    Democrats didn’t get more than 50% of the presidential vote in Colorado until 2008 so it is not exactly DEEP blue. It’s pretty recent.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Jack D

    "It’s pretty recent."

    Perhaps so; but nevertheless, irreversible.

    Which was the Plan all along.

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D

    I could go either way with that.

    There seems to be some indication that the Covidian mandates are forcing a lot of internal migration. We Sailer-commenters are accustomed to looking at the difference between appearance and reality, so let's wait and see.

    If Colorado's blueness is as marginal as you make it out to be, this internal migration, if it occurs, might tip it red.

    There is just so much that's up in the air. And so much that is surprising.

    Who could have predicted that Mexican Americans in Texas were going to be so disgusted with illegal immigration and with black rioting that they would actually vote Republican? I wasn't surprised, at the disgust, but I was surprised that they voted Republican. Yet it has happened.

    Back to Colorado, I'm not an expert on Colorado Democrats, but even if they are not demographically overwhelming, they strike me as being even more obnoxious than Massachusetts Democrats, and that's saying quite a lot. Witness the persecution of the Christian baker.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Buzz Mohawk, @AnotherDad

  148. @Daniel Chieh
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Tranny privilege trumps Gay privilege.
     
    One of the most amusing things I've ever seen was a tranny bully a lesbian into silence because the lesbian expressed an attraction to women; this is offensive to fake women, of course.

    It was a great example of your maxims here.

    Replies: @Jack D

    They really need to publish a schedule of intersectional Pokemon points so that the outcome of any interaction could be predetermined. For example, if there is a dispute between a handicapped Latinx female and a white transwoman, who wins? If you could just look at your cheat card, then you wouldn’t have to actually have the fight – the loser could just concede in advance.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Jack D

    It's easy enough. The more revulsion 1950's America would feel toward your behavior, the more points on the Wokel Scale.

    Within this decade there will be discussions here on Unz about the squabble between the Pedo-sodomizers and the goat-fuckers.

  149. Weird that no one in the media when discussing this notes that Chappelle is a serious practicing Muslim. Had he been a serious Christian, I suspect we might hear more about that.

  150. @3g4me
    And Sailer joins the hullaballoo about trannies while everyone ignores that 'brilliant' Chapelle's gig included plenty of blatant anti-White 'humor.' Yet again celebrating as 'based' a standard anti-White black who occasionally demonstrates honesty or recognizes reality. You all are so very desperate for a non-White to front for you, to validate that you're not really rayciss, just various ethnic HBD obsessives. What you aren't is pro-White.

    Replies: @adreadline, @AceDeuce

    I’m still not sure about Sailer, and I’m aware that me being Brazilian (which is automatically mystery meat for Americans) will not exactly put me in your favor, but I have indeed noticed there very much appears to be a reluctance to explicitly defend Whites in many edgy notable individuals who the American globalist media decries as far-right and even White supremacist every time they’re mentioned anyway.

    On the other hand, the edgy ones the media does not always identify as far-right/White supremacist are often explicitly anti-White (something that appears to come naturally for those of a certain group, but not only for those), “White” being a downright pejorative in their view, and said fellows not rarely let us know they wouldn’t spit on a White (or someone they perceived to be White) if he was on fire.

  151. @mc23
    "Fetishists in Frocks" , very nice. The truth hurts.

    I'd rather see them in frocks then bikinis.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Bill Jones

    Burkas were invented for a reason.

  152. @Dennis Dale
    One might also argue their viciousness has a feminine character, if it's true that women, forced through history to resort to non-violent means to destroy their enemies, such as gossip, shaming and ostracizing, have evolved better skills for them.
    I don't necessarily buy this, but at least it would mean our new "girls" are getting the nasty part of femininity right.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Paperback Writer, @Eric Novak, @S. Anonyia

    Women have not been forced to use non-violent means to fight with other women. Steve’s thesis is that they’re not defending themselves with gossip, slander, and ostracizing-they’re using male threats of violence to shut down their opponents. Pay attention.

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @Eric Novak

    "Women have not been forced to use non-violent means to fight with other women"?

    Okay. Guess I forgot about the long history of female dueling and warfare.

    "Steve's thesis is...they're using male threats of violence..."

    It isn't though. Aggression isn't necessarily violent.

    But yes, I will try to pay closer attention, like you. What exactly is it you're paying attention to?

    Also: hope he sees it, bro.

    Replies: @Eric Novak

  153. @Jack D
    @Daniel Chieh

    They really need to publish a schedule of intersectional Pokemon points so that the outcome of any interaction could be predetermined. For example, if there is a dispute between a handicapped Latinx female and a white transwoman, who wins? If you could just look at your cheat card, then you wouldn't have to actually have the fight - the loser could just concede in advance.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    It’s easy enough. The more revulsion 1950’s America would feel toward your behavior, the more points on the Wokel Scale.

    Within this decade there will be discussions here on Unz about the squabble between the Pedo-sodomizers and the goat-fuckers.

    • Agree: Kylie
  154. Fetishists in Frocks

    Another SS coinage that ought to go viral.

    But maybe too many syllables.

    How about “Freaks in Frocks?”

  155. @rebel yell
    @Bardon Kaldian

    You have the hierarchy correct, Bardon. Two things to note:
    Where are Asians on the list?
    And - obvious opportunity for whites, hispanics, and asians to make a mutual self-defense pact against the rest. Most hispanics and asians are normal people who don't want to live with black crime and tranny delusions.

    Replies: @Eric Novak

    Most Hispanics need the \$18,000 in EITC/ACTC checks, FHA mortgages, and AA job set-asides, so they will continue to vote 70/30 for blacks and trannies.

  156. The whole Dave Chappelle Transgender Netflix thing is a scam.

    Oh, I like Dave Chappelle. I enjoyed his Netflix comedy special. But we are being trolled.

    The rich and powerful LOVE it when the proles scream at each other over men using the ladies room. Because then we are not talking about wasting trillions on endless pointless foreign wars or opening the borders to effectively unlimited third-world immigration so the rich can have cheap labor, or shipping the last dregs of our industries overseas, or the tens of trillions of dollars in bailouts and subsidies to Wall Street, etc.etc.etc.

    I don’t think that Chappelle is in all that much trouble. The rich want this, they want it to grab headlines and get people screaming at each other. I fully expect that Chappelle’s professional career will do just fine. Because the rich don’t much care about the transgender issue one way or the other, except insofar as it can get the proles distracted from issues that the rich DO care about…

  157. @Birdiegirl
    It’s time to stop the woke nonsense. By giving in to the transgender movement, we are actually responsible for screwing up kids lives who should be encouraged to seek intense psychotherapy rather than hormone therapy & surgical mutilation for a psychological ailment. While we feel immensely sorry for those suffering from gender dysphoria, why is an entire society catering to a teeny tiny percentage of people suffering confusion about their gender. Gender dysphoria is akin to anorexia. Should we all stop eating in from of those suffering from anorexia? Fact is there are two genders, nothing changes our DNA, only those with the X Y chromosome can bear children. Why are 98% of the population expected to change what is basic biology?

    Replies: @Ris_Eruwaedhiel

    Western nations have been turning themselves inside out upside down for the sake of steadily smaller minorities going back since at least WWII. Blacks, jews, homosexuals and now trannies. One certified victim group is the exception – women – who are actually a majority.

  158. Granted, “fetishist” conveys a little more of the relevant information about these guys than the more generic “freaks.”

  159. @Juvenalis
    @Wilkey


    Many trannies and gay men (which trannies mostly are)
     
    Not even remotely close to true; a mathematically absurd suggestion on its face. Among MtF Trans, Homosexual Transsexuals make up an infinitesimally tiny <0.05% microscopic sub-minority of the tiny 2-3% minority population of homosexual males.

    Homosexual Transsexualism is first evident in early childhood. However, even among the ~0.05% of naturally feminine boys that can be diagnosed with Childhood Onset Gender Dysphoria, if left alone, ~85% (73-98%) will naturally desist to accept their birth sex upon puberty, and live most likely as homo/bisexual men.* Adult gay men do not just suddenly turn trans. Homosexual Trans are extremely rare.

    An estimated 2.8-3.2% of all adolescent and adult heterosexual males experience some degree of autogynephilia. More than 90% of all Transsexuals are Nonhomosexual-type, i.e. fetishistic Autogynephilic Transsexualism, which manifests at or after puberty. A male cannot be autogynephilic if he is not first gynephilic.

    *See, e.g.


    «The literature on gender dysphoric children shows gender dysphoria in childhood does not result in gender dysphoria or GID in adolescence and adulthood. Feelings of gender dysphoria persisted into adolescence in only 39 of 246 of the children (15.8%) who were investigated in a number of prospective follow-up studies (Bakwin, 1968; Davenport, 1986; Drummond, Bradley, Peterson-Badali & Zucker, 2008; Green, 1987; Kosky, 1987; Lebovitz, 1972; Money & Ruso, 1979; Wallien & Cohen-Kettenis, 2008; Zucker & Bradley, 1995; Zuger, 1984). Although persistence rates differed between various studies (2% to 27%), the results unequivocally showed gender dysphoria remitted after puberty in the vast majority of children...»

    [Steensma, T. D., Biemond, R., de Boer, F., & Cohen-Kettenis, P. T. (2011). Desisting and persisting gender dysphoria after childhood: A qualitative follow-up study. Clinical Child Psychology and Psychiatry, 16(4), 499–516. DOI: 10.1177/1359104510378303]
     

    Replies: @Kratoklastes, @Stan Adams

    You appear to have done the ‘thing‘ of failing to properly understand set theory, and thinking that ‘Most A are B‘ is refuted by showing that ‘Most B are not A‘.

    Many trannies and gay men (which trannies mostly are)

    … is a statement equivalent to “most trannies are gay men“.

    Your response gives three pieces of irrelevant evidence:
    ① that most gay men aren’t trannies;
    ② that most confused children ‘naturally desist to accept their birth sex upon puberty‘ – whatever that means;
    ③ that most confused children ‘diagnosed’ with gender dysphoria get over it without being genitally mutilated.

    Most gay men don’t become cross-dressing loons who get their genitals mutilated: that’s entirely consistent with the notion that most pretend women are gay men – because the set of genitally-mutilated cross-dressing ex-men is much smaller than the set of gay men.

    If some over-medicated attention-seeking teen goes to a charlatan who ‘diagnoses’ them as ‘gender dysphoric’, and does not subsequently proceed to get themselves genitally mutilated… that just shows the pseudoscientific nature of the charlatan’s craft.

    I don’t give a shit either way: I’m not homosexual, nor do I have any urge to pass myself off as a woman. I’m not anti-either of those, either: I have a great deal of sympathy for kiddies who are medicated by their idiot parents.

    What I am strongly opposed to, is people who try to pretend that psychobabble is discipline whose checklist-based drivel is worth pissing on.

    That, and people who don’t understand set theory.

  160. It was looking like a great year for Netflix. It surpassed 200 million subscribers

    Any network that offers both Chappelle and Cuties is after viewers and nothing else. “There is no such thing as bad publicity.”

    How insane is it that the fetishists in frocks who want to shut them up are treated by the press as the Good Guys Gals?

    The white fetishists in frocks. Never forget that.

    Still, they’re savvy enough to put the black trannies out front for them. Yesterday’s Takeaway on NPR had Melissa Harris-Perry interview Aryah Lester (not to be confused with Aryeh Neier) and “MX” Dahlia Belle. (Click at your own risk.)

    aligns himself with the author J.K. Rowling as “Team TERF,”

    the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.

    That might be an MMA bout worth watching.

  161. Complete surprise, shock horror, the guy who stabbed that Tory politician to death is SOMALI!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10097509/Terror-police-probe-British-Muslim-Somali-descent-extremist-links-MP-stabbed.html

    There’s lots of nationalities to exclude from a sovereign country for lots of reasons but, uniquely, the Three Nevers — Haitians, Afghans, and Somalis — cannot be justified for any reason, and frequently remind everyone with new unprovoked violence and crime. They are in their whole histories free from accomplishment except when atrocity is defined as an accomplishment, for example, slaughtering British soldiers after pretending to protect them, or the massacre of French occupiers who actually knew how seeds work, or voluntarily entering into a country-ending civil war.

    • Replies: @Mina Horowitz
    @J.Ross

    If you go and protest and say "Stop third world immigration into Britain" you will be arrested for 'inciting hatred'. It is illegal for us to fight our own dispossession in the homeland of our ancestors. Our government is criminal and complicit. The island is lost. Thank goodness the British disapora is massive and global consisting of hundreds of millions of people. The good genes with our unique penchant for order and creativity survive. Good riddance to the island.

  162. @Polistra
    Out with the old, in with the new!

    https://i.ibb.co/9thLw75/Screenshot-20211015-060940-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Question. How long does it take to cancel a superannuated civil rights pioneer?

    Replies: @Altai, @J.Ross

    Answer. Has this old black man ever behaved like a cad with a lady, and has Gloria Allred been informed?

  163. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Altai

    He's died.


    14:30
    Counter-terror police assisting investigation
    Vikram Dodd

    The Guardian understands counter-terrorism police are assisting the investigation into the stabbing, which continues to be led by the local force, Essex police.

    Senior counter-terrorism officials are closely monitoring the situation and are being updated on emerging details of the attack and the suspect, who is in custody. They usually stay involved in such an investigation until a non-terrorist motive is identified
     

    Friday is traditional Islamist terror day, but it could just be that he was targeted and that happened to be his day for meeting constituents.

    The tweeter, a Welsh Nationalist, used to be a Police and Crime Commissioner (a civilian oversight post)


    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBv2AlvXEAE950K.jpg

    Replies: @Rob McX, @J.Ross

    Hey, what do you know, Barfon is totally okay with murdering elected representatives as long as it’s the other side. He’s ready to lead the DC police or the FBI.

  164. s I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.

    Steve, you have a way with words!

  165. @al gore rhythms
    OT but a British MP has been murdered during his surgery, and a Somali is the main suspect.

    They will of course call it 'terror' because this has become a reason that people don't question.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “but a British MP has been murdered during his surgery”

    What do the English use the word “surgery” to mean? I also saw that the poor dead man’s wife is his “caseworker,” which sounds to me like if, say, Alden married some criminal she was overseeing at the probation office, but I don’t think “caseworker” means the same thing in Britain.

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
    @Steve Sailer

    MP's set aside time when they meet with constituents. It is typically in a public building somewhere in the constituency. Some people might use it to discuss an issue they have had with, say, planning permission or issues with the local council, which they believe it is within the MP's power to influence. Or you may just go and talk about an issue that concerns you.

    Jo Cox was killed on her way to a surgery meeting and a Labour MP Stephen Timms was stabbed during his surgery, so it's obviously become something of a soft option for nutcases with causes.

    Replies: @S Johnson

  166. @Colin Wright
    '...the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture...'

    Somebody's probably already suggested it, but wouldn't The Ex-Men make a pretty good Marvel Comics title?

    A children's show? Educational television?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The ex-men have had something of a sci-fi aspect since Heinlein wrote about sex change operations in the 1950s. The guy I knew is the closest thing to a Heinlein hero this side of James Cameron.

  167. @Nikolai Vladivostok
    It may be that their power comes from institutional support rather than their combative nature. After all, they never had any power prior to 2013. Did they?
    If Dave Chappelle gets cancelled, that will manifest in the form of Netflix dropping him, other channels rejecting him, big tech suspending or deranking him. In a worst case scenario he may be debanked or have loonies picket his house, though I think his race will trump that for the time being.
    That doesn't mean big business is driving this (alone). If they don't go Woke enough, they get fleeced like Tesla the other day. Gotta pay the protection money or the grifters, media and academia go on the attack, and/or government changes regulations or breaks them up.
    It seems to me that there's a delicate balance of power between these elite groups and that men in frocks, blacks, refugees etc. are tools and cudgels rather than actors.

    Replies: @e, @Reg Cæsar

    If I understood what Chappelle said in his performance, he said this was his last w/ Netflix.

  168. The freak employee at Netflix who is stirring this stupid pot calls itself ‘Terra Fied,’ although the media has bowdlerized that name to ‘Terra Field.’ When I look at a photo of that lipsticked clown, I wonder how in heck it got hired as an engineer by anybody, anywhere. Why is it that a heterosexual OFWG can’t find a job anywhere in tech, but a petty troublemaking pervert like THAT can easily get job interviews and pass through the HR gauntlet unscathed? This is Sodom and Gomorrah. It’s nauseating.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @gutta percha

    It is kind of a thing with trannies to make your fake name a humorous pun, ie, "Rachel Tension."

    Replies: @Curle

  169. @Elmer T. Jones
    Chappelle is opening a comedy club in nearby Yellow Springs, Ohio, which may turn that sleepy hipster enclave into the next Austin or Boise as refugees pour out of California. I saw bearded ladies and tranz-men in Yellow Springs 50 years ago, so he may inadvertently be promoting the bohemian lifestyle that he cruelly mocks in his show. My weed connection, an aging hippie from Yellow Springs who served time in the Big House back in the 70s for dealing, is concerned that real estate prices have already surged in the village.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Paperback Writer, @e, @AnotherDad, @Paul Jolliffe

    He spoke of his hippie town in Ohio in this Netflix presentation.

  170. @Veteran Aryan
    @2BR

    The 'Babylon Bee' disagrees.

    Replies: @2BR

    They should try and watch him instead of reading the news about him. I don’t want to censor him, just want some better material. This is not a joke: : “Gender is a fact. Every human being in this room, every human being on Earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on Earth. That is a fact.”
    Yeah, I agree. But that’s not a joke.

  171. @Steve Sailer
    @al gore rhythms

    "but a British MP has been murdered during his surgery"

    What do the English use the word "surgery" to mean? I also saw that the poor dead man's wife is his "caseworker," which sounds to me like if, say, Alden married some criminal she was overseeing at the probation office, but I don't think "caseworker" means the same thing in Britain.

    Replies: @al gore rhythms

    MP’s set aside time when they meet with constituents. It is typically in a public building somewhere in the constituency. Some people might use it to discuss an issue they have had with, say, planning permission or issues with the local council, which they believe it is within the MP’s power to influence. Or you may just go and talk about an issue that concerns you.

    Jo Cox was killed on her way to a surgery meeting and a Labour MP Stephen Timms was stabbed during his surgery, so it’s obviously become something of a soft option for nutcases with causes.

    • Replies: @S Johnson
    @al gore rhythms

    The usage is by way of analogy with a private consultation with a doctor, also in the past called a ‘surgery’. My paternal grandmother was a doctor’s receptionist, so she worked in the surgery, and I can remember going to the doctor’s surgery as a boy for check-ups (no surgery was performed). This usage seems to have dropped but its use by MPs survives. My guess is that in the days when pretty much all a doctor could do was cut you up or set bones they were more often known as surgeons and the usage stuck—similar to how pharmacists are still often ‘chemists’ in Britain.

    As MPs’ influence over actual laws and the power and prestige of Parliament has declined (and its hours been cut back since 1997) it’s become more common for them to fill up their time handling constituents’ local complaints or disputes with authorities, like some kind of local ombudsman. What that has to do with being elected to the national legislature is anyone’s guess but it gives them something to do, and the initials ‘MP’ after someone’s name still carry some cachet. (There’s a subplot about this in Armando Ianucci’s ‘In the Loop’ with Steve Coogan as the disgruntled constituent.)

    Similarly because of the uncongenial hours they keep and as a way of bolstering an MP’s somewhat meagre salary it’s common for them to employ wives or partners as their constituency assistant, a secretarial role, although this has become slightly more difficult since the expenses scandal of the late Brown years. This is known as a ‘caseworker’ because they handle the ‘cases’ brought to them by the sad sack constituents. The scandal was small cheese by American standards, really a crisis of people realising their legislators and representatives didn’t do all that much anymore. Backbench MPs stay in office by having a local reputation for being ‘hard-working’ (responding to emails promptly and putting in the hours in the constituency) and it seems most feel that running the risk of coming across a random crazy or Muslim knifeman in a one-on-one meeting is worth relieving the tedium of their existence for.

  172. @Juvenalis
    @Wilkey


    Many trannies and gay men (which trannies mostly are)
     
    Not even remotely close to true; a mathematically absurd suggestion on its face. Among MtF Trans, Homosexual Transsexuals make up an infinitesimally tiny <0.05% microscopic sub-minority of the tiny 2-3% minority population of homosexual males.

    Homosexual Transsexualism is first evident in early childhood. However, even among the ~0.05% of naturally feminine boys that can be diagnosed with Childhood Onset Gender Dysphoria, if left alone, ~85% (73-98%) will naturally desist to accept their birth sex upon puberty, and live most likely as homo/bisexual men.* Adult gay men do not just suddenly turn trans. Homosexual Trans are extremely rare.

    An estimated 2.8-3.2% of all adolescent and adult heterosexual males experience some degree of autogynephilia. More than 90% of all Transsexuals are Nonhomosexual-type, i.e. fetishistic Autogynephilic Transsexualism, which manifests at or after puberty. A male cannot be autogynephilic if he is not first gynephilic.

    *See, e.g.


    «The literature on gender dysphoric children shows gender dysphoria in childhood does not result in gender dysphoria or GID in adolescence and adulthood. Feelings of gender dysphoria persisted into adolescence in only 39 of 246 of the children (15.8%) who were investigated in a number of prospective follow-up studies (Bakwin, 1968; Davenport, 1986; Drummond, Bradley, Peterson-Badali & Zucker, 2008; Green, 1987; Kosky, 1987; Lebovitz, 1972; Money & Ruso, 1979; Wallien & Cohen-Kettenis, 2008; Zucker & Bradley, 1995; Zuger, 1984). Although persistence rates differed between various studies (2% to 27%), the results unequivocally showed gender dysphoria remitted after puberty in the vast majority of children...»

    [Steensma, T. D., Biemond, R., de Boer, F., & Cohen-Kettenis, P. T. (2011). Desisting and persisting gender dysphoria after childhood: A qualitative follow-up study. Clinical Child Psychology and Psychiatry, 16(4), 499–516. DOI: 10.1177/1359104510378303]
     

    Replies: @Kratoklastes, @Stan Adams

    What percentage of gay guys are drag queens?

    (Transvestite ≠ transgender.)

  173. @Dennis Dale
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    What is the plural of "they"?

    Wrong answers only.

    Replies: @Odin

    What is the plural of “they”?
    Wrong answers only.

    For southerners maybe they-all…?

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @Odin

    good one. eventually to become th'all.

  174. @James J O'Meara
    @Buzz Mohawk

    "Well, this Deist believes each of us is a mind, a conscious piece of God, if you will, but he does not deny the existence of sex. Sex was created by God."

    The rise of transsexualism may be related to Christianity. Now, hear me out.

    Christianity was originally an apocalyptic cult (one of several in 1st century Palestine), which taught the equality of the sexes, forbade marriage and children, etc. All of which makes sense if you think sex is bad and the world is ending in a few weeks (cf. the Wokester who "doesn't want to bring children into this sick world"), but also has a theoretical basis: sex is the beginning of all the subsequent divisions: male/female, Jew/gentile, black/white, rich/poor, etc., which "are as one in Christ." As a later Protestant cult said "When Adam delved and Eve span/Who then was a gentleman?"

    Of course, the world didn't end, Christ didn't reappear (the Gnostics taught a "realized eschatology" which meant that the Second Coming had already occurred at baptism), so while some fell away, others tried to "reinterpret" the traditions so that one could continue to live in, rather than shun, the sinful world. Robert M. Price calls this the "embourgeois-fication of religion". Sex isn't shunned but more or less closely regulated, prophecy is replaced by dogma, a hierarchy is installed, etc. The process can be traced as the Epistles progress, from "I would that all men were like me" and talking in tongues to "Bishops must have only one wife" and women must be silent. Celibacy is honored but only in the clergy or monks and nuns. This is the "religion that made the West" as pro-Christian conservatives like to say.



    Thing of it is, since Christianity is still essentially apocalyptic, every now and then that breaks out; not just in cults: Protestantism itself was such an outbreak, overthrowing the hierarchy with the "priesthood of all believers." And remember "All men are created equal"? It's a medium if not short step from "In Christ there is no male or female, Jew or gentile" to Equity, which is why the Protestant churches got Woke first and are still the hardest Woke.

    So transsexualism is another apocalyptic cult: as you say, we are "really" just minds, equal shares in the Divine Mind, but sex, like the material world (one being the cause of the other, however you prefer the order) divides and deludes us. When you say above that "God created sex" you are endorsing the bourgeois accommodation: "hey, religion is fine in its place, but ya gotta get married and have kids, buddy."

    The transsexual rejects the idea that "anatomy is destiny" as conservatives like to intone: anatomy, like all other limitations, is a cruel prison, which we are learning to overcome. The Woke believe, like the primitive Christians, that all distinctions and divisions are not God's will but the Devil's trickery. Like the Logos, Science will save us, by breaking the power of genetics, matter, whatever.

    The relation to Transhumanism is obvious. And so of course the Wacky Brothers made an gnostic, apocalyptic film.

    This works for race, too; genetic engineering will produce what one author calls "brown bodies with white IQs" and then where is your "white nationalism"? "Oh, actually, it is the skin color we don't like." Well, don't worry: genetic engineering will make the whole Woke agenda practical. Want to impose democracy on Afghanistan? Reprogram them. Still racist? We'll take that out too.

    Gnosticism + genetics = Wokeism/Transsexualism/Transhumanism. As Iggy Pop said years ago, "Look out honey, 'cause I'm using technology!"

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @bomag

    Thanks. That’s interesting.

    Perhaps one quibble. To me you wrote:

    … as you say, we are “really” just minds, equal shares in the Divine Mind, but sex, like the material world (one being the cause of the other, however you prefer the order) divides and deludes us. When you say above that “God created sex” you are endorsing the bourgeois accommodation…

    I suspect were are male and female minds and that we are one or the other from birth. I think this has been proven via various experiments and studies of brain physiology, but I don’t really have that knowledge. I strongly doubt we are neuter minds.

    The material part of reality is necessary for the mental, and the two are intertwined. (Hey, like male and female!) You can’t have one without the other. There is some mystery to this, and our little, male and female minds can’t quite grasp it.

    As for being a bourgeois man, I will happily admit to it. Everyone who sees the world through Marxist glasses either secretly is one or wants to be one.

  175. @J.Ross
    Complete surprise, shock horror, the guy who stabbed that Tory politician to death is SOMALI!

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10097509/Terror-police-probe-British-Muslim-Somali-descent-extremist-links-MP-stabbed.html

    There's lots of nationalities to exclude from a sovereign country for lots of reasons but, uniquely, the Three Nevers -- Haitians, Afghans, and Somalis -- cannot be justified for any reason, and frequently remind everyone with new unprovoked violence and crime. They are in their whole histories free from accomplishment except when atrocity is defined as an accomplishment, for example, slaughtering British soldiers after pretending to protect them, or the massacre of French occupiers who actually knew how seeds work, or voluntarily entering into a country-ending civil war.

    Replies: @Mina Horowitz

    If you go and protest and say “Stop third world immigration into Britain” you will be arrested for ‘inciting hatred’. It is illegal for us to fight our own dispossession in the homeland of our ancestors. Our government is criminal and complicit. The island is lost. Thank goodness the British disapora is massive and global consisting of hundreds of millions of people. The good genes with our unique penchant for order and creativity survive. Good riddance to the island.

  176. @Eric Novak
    @Dennis Dale

    Women have not been forced to use non-violent means to fight with other women. Steve’s thesis is that they’re not defending themselves with gossip, slander, and ostracizing-they’re using male threats of violence to shut down their opponents. Pay attention.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

    “Women have not been forced to use non-violent means to fight with other women”?

    Okay. Guess I forgot about the long history of female dueling and warfare.

    “Steve’s thesis is…they’re using male threats of violence…”

    It isn’t though. Aggression isn’t necessarily violent.

    But yes, I will try to pay closer attention, like you. What exactly is it you’re paying attention to?

    Also: hope he sees it, bro.

    • Replies: @Eric Novak
    @Dennis Dale

    “Female dueling and warfare” comes back with four pages on Google, all of them for video games. You must be a Dennis with tits.

  177. @Odin
    @Dennis Dale


    What is the plural of “they”?
    Wrong answers only.
     
    For southerners maybe they-all...?

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

    good one. eventually to become th’all.

  178. @Dennis Dale
    @Eric Novak

    "Women have not been forced to use non-violent means to fight with other women"?

    Okay. Guess I forgot about the long history of female dueling and warfare.

    "Steve's thesis is...they're using male threats of violence..."

    It isn't though. Aggression isn't necessarily violent.

    But yes, I will try to pay closer attention, like you. What exactly is it you're paying attention to?

    Also: hope he sees it, bro.

    Replies: @Eric Novak

    “Female dueling and warfare” comes back with four pages on Google, all of them for video games. You must be a Dennis with tits.

  179. @Elmer T. Jones
    Chappelle is opening a comedy club in nearby Yellow Springs, Ohio, which may turn that sleepy hipster enclave into the next Austin or Boise as refugees pour out of California. I saw bearded ladies and tranz-men in Yellow Springs 50 years ago, so he may inadvertently be promoting the bohemian lifestyle that he cruelly mocks in his show. My weed connection, an aging hippie from Yellow Springs who served time in the Big House back in the 70s for dealing, is concerned that real estate prices have already surged in the village.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Paperback Writer, @e, @AnotherDad, @Paul Jolliffe

    Yellow Springs, Ohio, which may turn that sleepy hipster enclave into the next Austin or Boise as refugees pour out of California.

    Greater Xenia? … I don’t think so.

    • Replies: @Elmer T. Jones
    @AnotherDad

    A couple years ago I bought for $170K (well, took out a loan at that inflated price) a ranch home on half an acre in a quiet, midcentury neighborhood in a semi-rural setting just a few miles from Xenia. Abundant bird and wildlife; deer, eagles, hawks, owls, many other smaller birds. At night there is zero traffic noise. We go for walks around the neighborhood and encounter one or two cars. Nice wooded parks nearby also, walking distance from the house. Shopping and hospital 2 minutes from the house. Plenty of local tech jobs. New McMansions start around $300K. People are nicer here than places I have lived in the Southwest. A weed dispensary is opening across the street from my office. The area has some downsides, mainly the brutal 7 month winters. Ironic that I relocated here after decades thinking it was the pits, but given the actual quality of life I enjoy here, wherever we move to in the future is going to have to exceed that. There are no homeless camps, mainly because housing is plentiful and many of our homeless have moved to California where they enjoy the beachbum lifestyle. The Yellow Springs hipsters are something of a blight but that is buffered by the traditional local culture. One of my ancestors was buried in Clifton Gorge cemetery in 1850. When I found his headstone I laughed that the crackers had misspelled his name they way they still mispronounce it.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AnotherDad

  180. @Jack D
    @Paperback Writer

    Democrats didn't get more than 50% of the presidential vote in Colorado until 2008 so it is not exactly DEEP blue. It's pretty recent.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Paperback Writer

    “It’s pretty recent.”

    Perhaps so; but nevertheless, irreversible.

    Which was the Plan all along.

  181. Sigh…. too many Muscovites still think that US is a bastion of freedom (whatever that may mean)..

  182. @Paperback Writer
    @Buzz Mohawk


    WTF does this have to do with Dave Chappelle?

     

    One of the commenters mentioned that Chappelle's home town of Yellow Springs, Ohio is something of a hipster/boho enclave, and that Chappelle's presence is making it very trendy. So I chimed in that the best places to live are hipster enclaves that are under the radar.

    Only problem with Boulder is that it's in a disgustingly blue state.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Reg Cæsar

    Only problem with Boulder is that it’s in a disgustingly blue state.

    Colorado Biden vote: 55%
    Boulder County Biden vote: 77%

    Anyone have Boulder city’s?

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Reg Cæsar

    55% is bad - Boulder isn't big enough to have skewed it *that* much.

    I just looked up the stats: 5.75 million, 84% white.

    This is an intra-white disaster.

    State needs redemption.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  183. @Gordo

    As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.
     
    Nah, just deny them a platform and its over. But they won't do that.

    Like the Taliban allegedly threatening to flood the West with 'refugees', just don't let them in dude, but that won't happen either.

    It's all part of the plan.

    Replies: @Cortes

    Good luck with the refusals once they’re over the border…

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/10/eu-faces-migrant-backlash-after-sanctioning-belarus.html#more

    Lots of familiarity here with the ancient Pythons of Britain. This sort of blowback smacks more of the usual outcome of one those “cunning plans” of Baldrick, clueless servant of Edmund Blackadder.

    • Thanks: Gordo
    • LOL: kaganovitch
    • Replies: @undisclosed
    @Cortes

    I discovered Blackadder a few months ago and it's great. I started with the WW1 series as the most accessible to me, an American of Eastern European Jewish ancestry and moved backwards from there. Great stuff.

    Any other great British Comedies?

    The Thick of It
    The IT Crowd
    Revolver


    Or Dramas?

    Rome


    ------

    Yes I tried Peep Show. It's overrated. Like the original The Office it seasons its comedy in sharp-edged uglyness for reasons I don't understand. The American Office was almost the perfect comedy. Arrested Development was much much forever much better for me personally but most Americans will not understand 80% of the jokes. (If you have never watched it, start at the very beginning and watch it in order or you'll miss out on a lot of the humor. And watch the 4th season as it was originally made. Not the reshuffled version for stupid people. There was no 5th season. The creator was contractually obligated to produce it while being unallowed to do it his own way so he made absolute humorless shit to spite the fuckers.)

    Replies: @rebel yell

    , @Gordo
    @Cortes

    We pay a large amount of money for armed forces who seem absolutely incapable of stopping our country being invaded. We could spend that money on useful things like ice cream and monorails.

  184. @aNewBanner
    @JimDandy

    Rowling and Chappelle have Influence. Some random Dude in a Dress (DIAD) has Power because they can sue their employer for creating a hostile workplace environment. Eventually, a judge, sympathetic to the DIAD, will rule in their favor and punish the DIAD’s employer with a huge fine that will be extracted by men with guns if necessary. The judge will be sympathetic toward the DIAD because the judge dreams the ‘Dream’ - the vision of one homogeneous blob of humanity, without differentiation or distinction, without joy or pain, without gain or loss, with labor or effort, all united by a tepid humanism and controlled by a bureau of experts. Basically, they (meaning most everyone of importance in the real halls of power) think that they are leading us toward the blissful world of Lennon’s “Imagine”, though it tends more towards the Borg in reality.

    Let’s take Netflix for example. They are caught between Power (the DIAD) and Influence (Chappelle). Power always beats Influence in the long run, so Netflix will cave in the long run. Chappelle probably thinks that he’s too big and too connected to be cancelled, but he’s not. (Obama isn’t big enough to avoid being cancelled if the right conditions align.) That means that he’ll be canceled, in some way shape, manner, or form. If he does realize that he’s in danger, Chappelle has three options to resist. First, he can find some other lesser power to oppose Power and try to grind Netflix between them. That won’t work. It will just push Netflix into the arms of Power (which is capitalized for a reason) and accelerate Chappelle’s cancellation. Second, he could attempt to overthrow the leadership of Netflix through some complicated strategy, legal or otherwise. This approach has little chance of success. Even if it does succeed, he’ll immediately need to turn to the third option. He can oppose Power directly with all of the Influence at his disposal. This is a winning strategy, if, and only if, there is a critical mass pushing in the same direction at the same time to create enough POWER to destroy Power. This is also a dangerous strategy. If he doesn’t succeed, then he will be crushed. (See Cosby, Bill.) If he does succeed in creating critical mass, then it needs to be harnessed into a safe, reliable form. We want a well controlled fission reaction in a steel lined pressure vessel, not Hiroshima.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Almost Missouri, @Sick 'n Tired, @The Wild Geese Howard

    He can oppose Power directly with all of the Influence at his disposal. This is a winning strategy, if, and only if, there is a critical mass pushing in the same direction at the same time to create enough POWER to destroy Power. This is also a dangerous strategy. If he doesn’t succeed, then he will be crushed. (See Cosby, Bill.)

    Nicki Minaj seems to be managing pretty well despite refusing to take the holy vax baptism.

  185. @Daniel H

    As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.
     
    Tranny Zoey Tur threatens to send Ben Shapiro home in an ambulance.

    https://youtu.be/YgQy70_LPS4?t=124

    Replies: @Joe S.Walker, @Half Canadian

    Mr Jenner truly looks and behaves like a bullying asshole there.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Joe S.Walker

    That's not Jenner. It's the former Bob Tur, now a tranny.

    Replies: @Joe S.Walker

  186. @al gore rhythms
    @Steve Sailer

    MP's set aside time when they meet with constituents. It is typically in a public building somewhere in the constituency. Some people might use it to discuss an issue they have had with, say, planning permission or issues with the local council, which they believe it is within the MP's power to influence. Or you may just go and talk about an issue that concerns you.

    Jo Cox was killed on her way to a surgery meeting and a Labour MP Stephen Timms was stabbed during his surgery, so it's obviously become something of a soft option for nutcases with causes.

    Replies: @S Johnson

    The usage is by way of analogy with a private consultation with a doctor, also in the past called a ‘surgery’. My paternal grandmother was a doctor’s receptionist, so she worked in the surgery, and I can remember going to the doctor’s surgery as a boy for check-ups (no surgery was performed). This usage seems to have dropped but its use by MPs survives. My guess is that in the days when pretty much all a doctor could do was cut you up or set bones they were more often known as surgeons and the usage stuck—similar to how pharmacists are still often ‘chemists’ in Britain.

    As MPs’ influence over actual laws and the power and prestige of Parliament has declined (and its hours been cut back since 1997) it’s become more common for them to fill up their time handling constituents’ local complaints or disputes with authorities, like some kind of local ombudsman. What that has to do with being elected to the national legislature is anyone’s guess but it gives them something to do, and the initials ‘MP’ after someone’s name still carry some cachet. (There’s a subplot about this in Armando Ianucci’s ‘In the Loop’ with Steve Coogan as the disgruntled constituent.)

    Similarly because of the uncongenial hours they keep and as a way of bolstering an MP’s somewhat meagre salary it’s common for them to employ wives or partners as their constituency assistant, a secretarial role, although this has become slightly more difficult since the expenses scandal of the late Brown years. This is known as a ‘caseworker’ because they handle the ‘cases’ brought to them by the sad sack constituents. The scandal was small cheese by American standards, really a crisis of people realising their legislators and representatives didn’t do all that much anymore. Backbench MPs stay in office by having a local reputation for being ‘hard-working’ (responding to emails promptly and putting in the hours in the constituency) and it seems most feel that running the risk of coming across a random crazy or Muslim knifeman in a one-on-one meeting is worth relieving the tedium of their existence for.

  187. Yes. I’ve dealt with some of these people online. At first I was startled at the graphic violence of the threats/responses to even mild criticism. Then I chalked it up to leftover testosterone, possibly side effects of hormonal therapy. Now I just think they’re psychopaths honestly.

  188. Nicki Minaj seems to be managing pretty well despite refusing to take the holy vax baptism.

    Anthony Fauci is less scary an opponent than is Terra Fie[l]d.

  189. never interrupt your opponent while he’s making a mistake

    rhe best thing that happened to normal white men is the elevation of trannyism

    let straight bllack men and straight white women join us among the mistreated

    we need them to win the war

    GOD FORBID that we win the battle against trannyism

  190. @Ray P
    'Ten years ago a crack-smoking commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a sex-crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles queer underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as lady-soldiers of fortune. If you have a gender problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the T-Team."

    Replies: @Stebbing Heuer

    LOL

  191. @Matt Buckalew
    @Mike Tre

    An important proviso to this: Steve is an extremely meek very tall man and he’s sensitive to this aspect of his personality. Steve is a nice man but because of his height he is a bit of a frustrated nice man.

    Now for the main part- Steve’s entire theory of trans behavior originated in the fact that one day when looking up the highest paid female executives he stumbled on the fact that the classroom bully of his business school- who was at the time male- was now the worlds highest paid “female” executive. Naturally Steve reflected back on his time at UCLA and no doubt the instances when a guy far shorter than him nonetheless wiped the floor Steve and presto a theory was born.

    Steve works a lot like Malcolm gladwell- Steve as mentioned above is nowhere as charismatic as the ex college jock Gladwell- but his process is similar. An interesting observation spawns a long term effort to erect a superstructure over an anecdote.

    Replies: @undisclosed, @Lurker

    We all work in a similar fashion…including yourself as you developed this theory about Steve as theorizer.

    But I don’t really see Steve doing much theorizing here.

    Until 5 years ago to be an out and out tranny you had to have some really big balls.

    Until 20 years ago to be an out and out gay you had to be quite brave.

    Is Caitlyn Jenner brave? He certainly is (though I’ll call him Caitlyn because who cares).

    Deciding that you are a woman because of whatever your reasons and actually doing so publicly is incredibly brave — until Bruce Jenner did it. These days it isn’t beave anymore so plenty of SealTeam2 and 3 people are getting in on it too.

    To announce your discovery of Jewish ancestry in Germany in 1935 would have been brave, in 2021 — not brave.

    Men who lead the way in ANY endeavor, good, bad or retarded are ALWAYS brave men. Ballsy men. Masculine men.

    Even further than that — WOMEN who lead the way in any endeavor are the most masculine of women.

    Femininity does not lead.

    Masculinity leads or gets out of the way or stands IN the way. Femininity follows. Be it femininity amongst women or amongst men.

    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
    @undisclosed

    I think the comparison is kind of specious- Bruce was on the cover of Vanity Fair within months of transitioning. How many Jews were being feted by the German press in 1935. It’s also kind of silly because who is to say special forces types are particularly brave in the moral sense rather than physical sense. Was Blanche from The Glass Menagerie brave or just overcome with narcissism. I’ll note that Jenner isn’t a particularly aggressive or charismatic person- he got pushed into a marriage but that Jenner lady and maybe the hen pecked husband routine was an act but Bruce Jenner tried acting and wasn’t very good at it. So if anything Bruce is more like the teenage girls who have come to characterize the abomination- both are struggling to assert an identity in the growing sense of anonymity and insignificance. Yea Bruce was America’s darling what fifty years ago. But let’s face it the pentathalon is cool but it’s a bit like going to the moon- only boomers really care.

  192. @Cortes
    @Gordo

    Good luck with the refusals once they’re over the border...

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/10/eu-faces-migrant-backlash-after-sanctioning-belarus.html#more

    Lots of familiarity here with the ancient Pythons of Britain. This sort of blowback smacks more of the usual outcome of one those “cunning plans” of Baldrick, clueless servant of Edmund Blackadder.

    https://youtu.be/ACnqI1l4I9s

    Replies: @undisclosed, @Gordo

    I discovered Blackadder a few months ago and it’s great. I started with the WW1 series as the most accessible to me, an American of Eastern European Jewish ancestry and moved backwards from there. Great stuff.

    Any other great British Comedies?

    The Thick of It
    The IT Crowd
    Revolver

    Or Dramas?

    Rome

    ——

    Yes I tried Peep Show. It’s overrated. Like the original The Office it seasons its comedy in sharp-edged uglyness for reasons I don’t understand. The American Office was almost the perfect comedy. Arrested Development was much much forever much better for me personally but most Americans will not understand 80% of the jokes. (If you have never watched it, start at the very beginning and watch it in order or you’ll miss out on a lot of the humor. And watch the 4th season as it was originally made. Not the reshuffled version for stupid people. There was no 5th season. The creator was contractually obligated to produce it while being unallowed to do it his own way so he made absolute humorless shit to spite the fuckers.)

    • Replies: @rebel yell
    @undisclosed

    "Yes Minister" and it's follow up "Yes Prime Minister"

    Replies: @Undisclosed

  193. Even their biggest fans eventually will become bored with trannies — so the question is, what even more deeply disturbed behavior will be adopted as the next trendy pet group?

  194. “This is known as a ‘caseworker’ because they handle the ‘cases’ brought to them by the sad sack constituents”

    It must have been a relief for MP’s when Covid meant they could switch to Zoom meetings. Perhaps they will have a reason to stay that way now.

    The BBC are very much spinning this as ‘raising questions about MP safety’ unlike the Jo Cox murder, which as I remember was more a Brexit2: Rise of the Far Right style production.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @al gore rhythms


    It must have been a relief for MP’s when Covid meant they could switch to Zoom meetings. Perhaps they will have a reason to stay that way now.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS_TllVjF8I&t=0m49s
    , @S Johnson
    @al gore rhythms

    If a white British MP is murdered by a black Muslim Somali then it’s obviously unacceptable to notice the killer’s ethnicity and religion.

    If a white British MP is murdered by a white British crazy who liked to order far-right magazines online then extrapolate away!

    Replies: @mulga mumblebrain

  195. @Nikolai Vladivostok
    It may be that their power comes from institutional support rather than their combative nature. After all, they never had any power prior to 2013. Did they?
    If Dave Chappelle gets cancelled, that will manifest in the form of Netflix dropping him, other channels rejecting him, big tech suspending or deranking him. In a worst case scenario he may be debanked or have loonies picket his house, though I think his race will trump that for the time being.
    That doesn't mean big business is driving this (alone). If they don't go Woke enough, they get fleeced like Tesla the other day. Gotta pay the protection money or the grifters, media and academia go on the attack, and/or government changes regulations or breaks them up.
    It seems to me that there's a delicate balance of power between these elite groups and that men in frocks, blacks, refugees etc. are tools and cudgels rather than actors.

    Replies: @e, @Reg Cæsar

    That doesn’t mean big business is driving this (alone). If they don’t go Woke enough, they get fleeced like Tesla the other day.

    Or Target in 2010:

    Target apologizes for giving to group backing Emmer

  196. @al gore rhythms
    "This is known as a ‘caseworker’ because they handle the ‘cases’ brought to them by the sad sack constituents"

    It must have been a relief for MP's when Covid meant they could switch to Zoom meetings. Perhaps they will have a reason to stay that way now.

    The BBC are very much spinning this as 'raising questions about MP safety' unlike the Jo Cox murder, which as I remember was more a Brexit2: Rise of the Far Right style production.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @S Johnson

    It must have been a relief for MP’s when Covid meant they could switch to Zoom meetings. Perhaps they will have a reason to stay that way now.

  197. @Matt Buckalew
    @Mike Tre

    An important proviso to this: Steve is an extremely meek very tall man and he’s sensitive to this aspect of his personality. Steve is a nice man but because of his height he is a bit of a frustrated nice man.

    Now for the main part- Steve’s entire theory of trans behavior originated in the fact that one day when looking up the highest paid female executives he stumbled on the fact that the classroom bully of his business school- who was at the time male- was now the worlds highest paid “female” executive. Naturally Steve reflected back on his time at UCLA and no doubt the instances when a guy far shorter than him nonetheless wiped the floor Steve and presto a theory was born.

    Steve works a lot like Malcolm gladwell- Steve as mentioned above is nowhere as charismatic as the ex college jock Gladwell- but his process is similar. An interesting observation spawns a long term effort to erect a superstructure over an anecdote.

    Replies: @undisclosed, @Lurker

    the classroom bully of his business school- who was at the time male

    And still is.

    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
    @Lurker

    Do you honestly think I’d dispute that. It would have made the entire comment incoherent to not state it as I did.

  198. @Dennis Dale
    @Paperback Writer

    I was going to say "pickiness" and promiscuity don't go together, but actually they do. Cue the famous Randy Shilts quote about the brutal hierarchy of gay sexual attraction. I overheard a gay-sounding guy telling another that "tops" are mostly the more attractive guys, who get to dictate (please no puns).

    Even if you take out the masculine aspect of gay sexual relations, you still have a group of people for whom sex has had up until the "gay marriage" movement no relation to marriage or procreation, which still loom over even the most degenerate heterosexual environments. The dynamic of women choosing men who compete for them is gone, replaced only by, perhaps, the dynamic of the most desired choosing. Everyone is On the Make.

    Of course, with birth control and sexual liberation they've managed to make heterosexual culture resemble gay culture, at the same time crafting the image of the domestic gay, marrying, adopting, mimicking heterosexual relations. It's quite remarkable what they've achieved: making heteros "gay" in their promiscuity, and gays "straight" in their domesticity.

    I watched part of a Sex and the City episode years ago and I realized the slut character (who gave a random dude a blow job) is a transposed gay cruiser. It all seems rather deliberate.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Nicholas Stix, @Tracy

    “I watched part of a Sex and the City episode years ago and I realized the slut character (who gave a random dude a blow job) is a transposed gay cruiser.”

    IIRC, that show was written by gay guys.

    • Replies: @Reactive Reaction
    @Nicholas Stix

    Sex in the City was entirely a show about the urban life of gay men, with females playing the roles to make it acceptable for 1997 or whenevet.

  199. “the ex-men”

    That’s got to go into the Sailer Phrase Hall of Fame.

  200. @al gore rhythms
    "This is known as a ‘caseworker’ because they handle the ‘cases’ brought to them by the sad sack constituents"

    It must have been a relief for MP's when Covid meant they could switch to Zoom meetings. Perhaps they will have a reason to stay that way now.

    The BBC are very much spinning this as 'raising questions about MP safety' unlike the Jo Cox murder, which as I remember was more a Brexit2: Rise of the Far Right style production.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @S Johnson

    If a white British MP is murdered by a black Muslim Somali then it’s obviously unacceptable to notice the killer’s ethnicity and religion.

    If a white British MP is murdered by a white British crazy who liked to order far-right magazines online then extrapolate away!

    • Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
    @S Johnson

    The putative killer was, as ever, 'well-known' to the authorities. Funny how they are always 'well-known'.

  201. @Cortes
    @Gordo

    Good luck with the refusals once they’re over the border...

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/10/eu-faces-migrant-backlash-after-sanctioning-belarus.html#more

    Lots of familiarity here with the ancient Pythons of Britain. This sort of blowback smacks more of the usual outcome of one those “cunning plans” of Baldrick, clueless servant of Edmund Blackadder.

    https://youtu.be/ACnqI1l4I9s

    Replies: @undisclosed, @Gordo

    We pay a large amount of money for armed forces who seem absolutely incapable of stopping our country being invaded. We could spend that money on useful things like ice cream and monorails.

  202. @Dennis Dale
    @mc23

    Avoid The Daily Mail.

    Replies: @Polistra

    Funny you should mention. Speaking of fetishists in frocks..

    Okay, apparently that’s Page Six, but it was an ad in the Daily Mail.

    I’m just hoping it’s not a targeted ad..

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @Polistra

    The Mail's right-hand column cannot be unseen. It's hilarious how they post photos of Lizzo with the same language they use when posting photos of someone like Kim Kardashian.
    "Lizzo sends pulses racing in sheer gown..."

    Well yeah, I guess my heart rate has to go up when I'm running away or recoiling in fright.
    It's like they're trolling us.

    Replies: @HammerJack

  203. @AnotherDad
    @Elmer T. Jones


    Yellow Springs, Ohio, which may turn that sleepy hipster enclave into the next Austin or Boise as refugees pour out of California.
     
    Greater Xenia? ... I don't think so.

    Replies: @Elmer T. Jones

    A couple years ago I bought for \$170K (well, took out a loan at that inflated price) a ranch home on half an acre in a quiet, midcentury neighborhood in a semi-rural setting just a few miles from Xenia. Abundant bird and wildlife; deer, eagles, hawks, owls, many other smaller birds. At night there is zero traffic noise. We go for walks around the neighborhood and encounter one or two cars. Nice wooded parks nearby also, walking distance from the house. Shopping and hospital 2 minutes from the house. Plenty of local tech jobs. New McMansions start around \$300K. People are nicer here than places I have lived in the Southwest. A weed dispensary is opening across the street from my office. The area has some downsides, mainly the brutal 7 month winters. Ironic that I relocated here after decades thinking it was the pits, but given the actual quality of life I enjoy here, wherever we move to in the future is going to have to exceed that. There are no homeless camps, mainly because housing is plentiful and many of our homeless have moved to California where they enjoy the beachbum lifestyle. The Yellow Springs hipsters are something of a blight but that is buffered by the traditional local culture. One of my ancestors was buried in Clifton Gorge cemetery in 1850. When I found his headstone I laughed that the crackers had misspelled his name they way they still mispronounce it.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Elmer T. Jones

    Ohio was the more or less the center of Western Civilization for about 150 years.

    Replies: @S Johnson, @AceDeuce

    , @AnotherDad
    @Elmer T. Jones


    A couple years ago I bought for $170K (well, took out a loan at that inflated price) a ranch home on half an acre in a quiet, midcentury neighborhood in a semi-rural setting just a few miles from Xenia. Abundant bird and wildlife; deer, eagles, hawks, owls, many other smaller birds. At night there is zero traffic noise. We go for walks around the neighborhood and encounter one or two cars. Nice wooded parks nearby also, walking distance from the house. Shopping and hospital 2 minutes from the house. Plenty of local tech jobs. New McMansions start around $300K. People are nicer here than places I have lived in the Southwest. ...
     
    Good stuff, Mr. Jones. Flyover country has a lot of quality of life positives. I'm happy for you. Hope you enjoy your SW Ohio patch.

    I've only been once--a scout outing--but i think your "Clifton Gorge"--that piece of the Little Miami through there--is really nice. I remember it mostly because one scout, playing on a big bolder, slid on some moss and a tree branch snagged his arm on the way down and ripped it wide open. My dad--our scoutmaster--bandaged him up and with some older scouts hustled him off to the hospital for surgery, but the rest of us really enjoyed our loop through the gorge.

    BTW, you really can't call it a "brutal 7 month winter". You're not in Minnesota. You're not even in the permanent snow belt. (In college, i used to hitchhike up to my girlfriend's place in Cleveland the perma-snow line is a bit north of Columbus.) The fall there is very nice, generally dry--my favorite season. I bet it's nice there right now. (Yesterday was great here in the PNW, but October has already been mostly soggy and November is reliably a dripfest.) Winter there doesn't really start until December. And it's over by late March. "April showers" can be soggy, but May is usually quite, quite nice. You've got midwest weather, but it's pretty nice midwest weather. Don't compare it to the SW winter and it will be pretty pleasant.

    Good luck with it!
  204. @Elmer T. Jones
    @AnotherDad

    A couple years ago I bought for $170K (well, took out a loan at that inflated price) a ranch home on half an acre in a quiet, midcentury neighborhood in a semi-rural setting just a few miles from Xenia. Abundant bird and wildlife; deer, eagles, hawks, owls, many other smaller birds. At night there is zero traffic noise. We go for walks around the neighborhood and encounter one or two cars. Nice wooded parks nearby also, walking distance from the house. Shopping and hospital 2 minutes from the house. Plenty of local tech jobs. New McMansions start around $300K. People are nicer here than places I have lived in the Southwest. A weed dispensary is opening across the street from my office. The area has some downsides, mainly the brutal 7 month winters. Ironic that I relocated here after decades thinking it was the pits, but given the actual quality of life I enjoy here, wherever we move to in the future is going to have to exceed that. There are no homeless camps, mainly because housing is plentiful and many of our homeless have moved to California where they enjoy the beachbum lifestyle. The Yellow Springs hipsters are something of a blight but that is buffered by the traditional local culture. One of my ancestors was buried in Clifton Gorge cemetery in 1850. When I found his headstone I laughed that the crackers had misspelled his name they way they still mispronounce it.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AnotherDad

    Ohio was the more or less the center of Western Civilization for about 150 years.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @S Johnson
    @Steve Sailer

    Studying the US presidents in college I found it surprising how many had been from Ohio, a state we heard little about except as a bellwether in presidential elections every four years.

    Replies: @Curle

    , @AceDeuce
    @Steve Sailer

    And Cleveland was the Silicon Valley of 1900.

  205. @James J O'Meara
    @Ian Smith

    "Black men are disproportionately targeted for tranny surprises"

    Possibly unintentional fallout from the decades long media campaign to promote blek men as the ultimate MANifestation of masculinity. Trannies watch the same porn everyone else does, so why would they settle for some needle-dicked huwhite loser?

    Also, blek females are heavy on the testosterone as well (hence all the comments about Michelle Obama), so blek men are easier to fool.

    "so Chapelle is just sticking up for the brothers on this issue."

    Including fellow comedian Eddie Murphy.

    Replies: @Ian Smith

    Did you say steak?

  206. @gutta percha
    The freak employee at Netflix who is stirring this stupid pot calls itself 'Terra Fied,' although the media has bowdlerized that name to 'Terra Field.' When I look at a photo of that lipsticked clown, I wonder how in heck it got hired as an engineer by anybody, anywhere. Why is it that a heterosexual OFWG can't find a job anywhere in tech, but a petty troublemaking pervert like THAT can easily get job interviews and pass through the HR gauntlet unscathed? This is Sodom and Gomorrah. It's nauseating.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    It is kind of a thing with trannies to make your fake name a humorous pun, ie, “Rachel Tension.”

    • Replies: @Curle
    @J.Ross

    Just like an attention seeker would.

  207. @aNewBanner
    @JimDandy

    Rowling and Chappelle have Influence. Some random Dude in a Dress (DIAD) has Power because they can sue their employer for creating a hostile workplace environment. Eventually, a judge, sympathetic to the DIAD, will rule in their favor and punish the DIAD’s employer with a huge fine that will be extracted by men with guns if necessary. The judge will be sympathetic toward the DIAD because the judge dreams the ‘Dream’ - the vision of one homogeneous blob of humanity, without differentiation or distinction, without joy or pain, without gain or loss, with labor or effort, all united by a tepid humanism and controlled by a bureau of experts. Basically, they (meaning most everyone of importance in the real halls of power) think that they are leading us toward the blissful world of Lennon’s “Imagine”, though it tends more towards the Borg in reality.

    Let’s take Netflix for example. They are caught between Power (the DIAD) and Influence (Chappelle). Power always beats Influence in the long run, so Netflix will cave in the long run. Chappelle probably thinks that he’s too big and too connected to be cancelled, but he’s not. (Obama isn’t big enough to avoid being cancelled if the right conditions align.) That means that he’ll be canceled, in some way shape, manner, or form. If he does realize that he’s in danger, Chappelle has three options to resist. First, he can find some other lesser power to oppose Power and try to grind Netflix between them. That won’t work. It will just push Netflix into the arms of Power (which is capitalized for a reason) and accelerate Chappelle’s cancellation. Second, he could attempt to overthrow the leadership of Netflix through some complicated strategy, legal or otherwise. This approach has little chance of success. Even if it does succeed, he’ll immediately need to turn to the third option. He can oppose Power directly with all of the Influence at his disposal. This is a winning strategy, if, and only if, there is a critical mass pushing in the same direction at the same time to create enough POWER to destroy Power. This is also a dangerous strategy. If he doesn’t succeed, then he will be crushed. (See Cosby, Bill.) If he does succeed in creating critical mass, then it needs to be harnessed into a safe, reliable form. We want a well controlled fission reaction in a steel lined pressure vessel, not Hiroshima.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Almost Missouri, @Sick 'n Tired, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Dave pointed out in one of his specials that he doesn’t care about being cancelled, because he’s rich, so even if he never does another stand up show, he’ll still be able to eat. He’s also smart enough to know if Netflix doesn’t offer him another deal, he’ll still have his massive fan base who will pay to see him, and he doesn’t need a network to put out his specials, he could film his act and sell it thru his website for \$5-10 like Louis C.K did. All this controversy does is give him more exposure and solidify his fanbase even more.

    Bill Cosby was crushed because he was drugging and raping a bunch of women, not because of some truthful jokes he made. In fact Bill Cosby is currently out of prison and enjoying his freedom.

  208. @Harry Baldwin
    @Paperback Writer

    The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix Revolutions sucked, so we may reasonably expect that the next one will suck as well.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Sick 'n Tired

    The first Matrix was to mind blowing and Hollywood is too greedy to have just left it alone as a stand alone movie. If they had, it would be one of the greatest movies ever made due to the filming techniques, special effects, and general plot. Instead they had to make 2 sequels of dreck, water down the storyline, and use to much CGI that made the human characters look cartoonish.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  209. @Steve Sailer
    @Elmer T. Jones

    Which liberal abolitionist Ohio college are Dave Chappelle's parents associated with? Antioch? Oberlin?

    When the brilliant black guy who is the most distinguished scion of almost 200 years of extremely progressive culture thinks you are nuts, you are nuts.

    Replies: @New Dealer, @Paperback Writer, @Jack D, @Curle, @Corvinus, @Anon

    Funny sexual trait ‘spectrum’ graph posted at West Hunter.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Curle

    From Annie Hall:


    [Alvy and Annie at their respective therapists]

    Alvy Singer's Therapist : How often do you sleep together?

    Alvy Singer : [lamenting] Hardly ever. Maybe three times a week.

    Annie Hall's Therapist : Do you have sex often?

    Annie Hall : [annoyed] Constantly. I'd say three times a week.
     
  210. @Daniel H

    As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.
     
    Tranny Zoey Tur threatens to send Ben Shapiro home in an ambulance.

    https://youtu.be/YgQy70_LPS4?t=124

    Replies: @Joe S.Walker, @Half Canadian

    Threatening violence? What a masculine way to solve a problem.

  211. @Dennis Dale
    One might also argue their viciousness has a feminine character, if it's true that women, forced through history to resort to non-violent means to destroy their enemies, such as gossip, shaming and ostracizing, have evolved better skills for them.
    I don't necessarily buy this, but at least it would mean our new "girls" are getting the nasty part of femininity right.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Paperback Writer, @Eric Novak, @S. Anonyia

    These guys are not homosexual transgenders with feminine personalities, though. Those transgenders tend to go unnoticed and are less vocal. The types Steve is discussing are aggressive straight men with fetishes. There is nothing female about any aspect of their demeanor and they don’t remotely pass as women (to give an example of one transgender “woman” I know, they keep up their wargaming hobby after transition). They are not expressing feminine personality traits when they try to get people cancelled- they aren’t gossiping or crying or ostracizing others, they are shouting in people’s faces and implicitly or explicitly threatening violence. When they gather together to protest, people usually get beat up. Don’t forget that MtF transgenders formed a pretty large portion of Antifa’s shock troops during the summer of Floyd.

  212. @J.Ross
    @gutta percha

    It is kind of a thing with trannies to make your fake name a humorous pun, ie, "Rachel Tension."

    Replies: @Curle

    Just like an attention seeker would.

  213. @Steve Sailer
    @Elmer T. Jones

    Ohio was the more or less the center of Western Civilization for about 150 years.

    Replies: @S Johnson, @AceDeuce

    Studying the US presidents in college I found it surprising how many had been from Ohio, a state we heard little about except as a bellwether in presidential elections every four years.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @S Johnson

    There were six elected and two of these ran as unsuccessful major party nominees at one time as well. One election, Harding v Cox, was a race between two Ohio newspapermen. Add up the number of major party nominees from OH and you have quite a list.

    Replies: @S Johnson

  214. @undisclosed
    @Cortes

    I discovered Blackadder a few months ago and it's great. I started with the WW1 series as the most accessible to me, an American of Eastern European Jewish ancestry and moved backwards from there. Great stuff.

    Any other great British Comedies?

    The Thick of It
    The IT Crowd
    Revolver


    Or Dramas?

    Rome


    ------

    Yes I tried Peep Show. It's overrated. Like the original The Office it seasons its comedy in sharp-edged uglyness for reasons I don't understand. The American Office was almost the perfect comedy. Arrested Development was much much forever much better for me personally but most Americans will not understand 80% of the jokes. (If you have never watched it, start at the very beginning and watch it in order or you'll miss out on a lot of the humor. And watch the 4th season as it was originally made. Not the reshuffled version for stupid people. There was no 5th season. The creator was contractually obligated to produce it while being unallowed to do it his own way so he made absolute humorless shit to spite the fuckers.)

    Replies: @rebel yell

    “Yes Minister” and it’s follow up “Yes Prime Minister”

    • Replies: @Undisclosed
    @rebel yell

    Yeah, I found it. It's not quite as funny though. At least not these days. I definitely appreciate the suggestion though. If I had not found it a month ago I definitely would have taken you up on the suggestion today. Appreciate it bro.

  215. I actually watched Chapelle’s specials twice to see what the keefuffle is about. This last one was on the whole practically a love letter to the trans community. He had a couple really funny lines—because otherwise what is the point of a comedy special—and he didn’t offer a full apology, but there were qualifications and acknowledgments of them throughout. He even said when I’m talking about you (Trans) I’m mostly mad at white racists. His next special will probably focus on making fun of white supremacists. I kind of like the guy, if only because a comic who is focused more on his craft than his politics is worth something. That might change given his trajectory.

    The inability of millennials to think critically and read evidence is just as much a problem today. Wokeness is driven by extremists but it gets no traction without the mentally ill and stupid lapping it up

    • Agree: S Johnson
    • Replies: @S Johnson
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    There’s probably a sense in which this outrage is being conflated (including by Netflix) as an excuse to purge non-trans-sympathetic employees, insist upon mandatory pronouns (I notice them in email signatures now), and commission a lot more trans programming.

  216. @aNewBanner
    @JimDandy

    Rowling and Chappelle have Influence. Some random Dude in a Dress (DIAD) has Power because they can sue their employer for creating a hostile workplace environment. Eventually, a judge, sympathetic to the DIAD, will rule in their favor and punish the DIAD’s employer with a huge fine that will be extracted by men with guns if necessary. The judge will be sympathetic toward the DIAD because the judge dreams the ‘Dream’ - the vision of one homogeneous blob of humanity, without differentiation or distinction, without joy or pain, without gain or loss, with labor or effort, all united by a tepid humanism and controlled by a bureau of experts. Basically, they (meaning most everyone of importance in the real halls of power) think that they are leading us toward the blissful world of Lennon’s “Imagine”, though it tends more towards the Borg in reality.

    Let’s take Netflix for example. They are caught between Power (the DIAD) and Influence (Chappelle). Power always beats Influence in the long run, so Netflix will cave in the long run. Chappelle probably thinks that he’s too big and too connected to be cancelled, but he’s not. (Obama isn’t big enough to avoid being cancelled if the right conditions align.) That means that he’ll be canceled, in some way shape, manner, or form. If he does realize that he’s in danger, Chappelle has three options to resist. First, he can find some other lesser power to oppose Power and try to grind Netflix between them. That won’t work. It will just push Netflix into the arms of Power (which is capitalized for a reason) and accelerate Chappelle’s cancellation. Second, he could attempt to overthrow the leadership of Netflix through some complicated strategy, legal or otherwise. This approach has little chance of success. Even if it does succeed, he’ll immediately need to turn to the third option. He can oppose Power directly with all of the Influence at his disposal. This is a winning strategy, if, and only if, there is a critical mass pushing in the same direction at the same time to create enough POWER to destroy Power. This is also a dangerous strategy. If he doesn’t succeed, then he will be crushed. (See Cosby, Bill.) If he does succeed in creating critical mass, then it needs to be harnessed into a safe, reliable form. We want a well controlled fission reaction in a steel lined pressure vessel, not Hiroshima.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Almost Missouri, @Sick 'n Tired, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Basically, they (meaning most everyone of importance in the real halls of power) think that they are leading us toward the blissful world of Lennon’s “Imagine”, though it tends more towards the Borg in reality.

    My bet is on a future like THX-1138:

  217. Anonymous[886] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @JimDandy


    I’d like an answer, please. Or at least a theory.
     
    To understand political events, you have to understand how politics works.

    a) Politics is the career of politicians. They treat it as an income source, no more, no less. They will do anything to keep their income flowing.

    b) There are two components a democracy/republic elections:
    1) The general public.
    2) Paid voting blocks ("special interest groups") organized formerly by special economic or ideological interests, and now augmented by racial interests.

    c) The political game is to divide the general public so that their vote is split evenly, and cancels itself out except for random variations in exactly where the split holds. Let's say that the general public split is usually 52/48, a 4% swing. If a particular coalition of politicians controls a coalition of voting blocks that is larger than the 4% swing, that coalition can reliably win the election. This was true during the US Era of Good Feelings and is still true today.

    d) An alternate strategy of influencing the popular vote is also possible, and can succeed (e.g. FDR, Trump), but professional politicians regard this as dangerous to their incomes and generally oppose what they call "Populism", which is a "threat to Our Democracy" (and when professional pols say "Our Democracy", they are saying they own democracy.

    3) Turchin points out that, over time, elites grow faster than grows the income stream to politics (to elite status groups), even when a higher percentage of GDP is diverted to the supporting the elites. This breeds strife among the elites (some of whom are excluded from the elite category) and the general population (which sees its income decline). Eventually, some of the excluded elite (Trump, for example, or FDR again) try leading a "populist revolt" -- that is, they appeal to the general population for support.

    4) During such revolts, the elite establishment often tries a resort to totalitarianism, a sort of "Whip these dogs back to their kennels" approach. During this appeal, retaining the loyalty of the paid voting blocks that support the elite establishment (e.g. the Democratic Party and the anti-Trump wing of the Republican Party) is absolutely essential to the elite establishment's survival.

    5) Since retaining the loyalty of the paid voting blocks that support the elite establishment (e.g. the Democratic Party and the anti-Trump wing of the Republican Party) is absolutely essential. Accordingly, critical paid voting blocks can ask for almost anything and the elite establishment will try to give it to them. Does the Far Left want Antifa to rule CHAZ? OK, done. Does the political - industrial complex want 2 or 3 trillion dollars for useless hardware or patronage jobs? Done. It's a matter of survival.


    And that's what's happening.

    An establishment that has contorted itself enough to give special interest groups what they demand appears schizophrenic to the general population, and perhaps the appearance is the truth. Ordinarily, that is enough of an edge to give some group of excluded elite victory over the establishment.

    Note that the above is consistent with Orwell's "the High, the Middle, and the Low" essay, supposedly by Goldberg, in the book _1984_.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    This theory implies that the current US government has no single controlling group, that the Joe Biden Presidency is not an accident, but rather a way of making it clear to the Democrat/Republican interest groups that they can simply take whatever they want, and do so without having to ask anybody. The elite establishment will support whatever the interest groups do, as it has no other hope of retaining power.

    As it happens, some racial and sexual groups want to cancel other racial and sexual groups completely. They are being permitted to cancel with the full weight of the Federal Government behind them, just as Epstein was permitted to conduct his operation. The canceling groups may be as mentally ill as Epstein, they may even be what Dutton calls “spiteful mutants”, but the canceling groups are nonetheless vital Establishment interest groups, and this is their time of power.

    While the resultant confusion and reliance on raw force appears to presage absolute government, it is in reality just every interest group taking what it can before failure of the establishment that the interest groups have been a part of. The group’s reasoning is that the establishment will be replaced whatever they do, the good times are coming to an end, so it is best to stock up for the replacement’s hard times. “Make hay before the sunset” would be a whimsical way to describe the mindset.

    And who knows? Maybe the horse will learn to sing and their efforts will actually lead to a totalitarian government. It worked out that way for the USSR.

    I should add that, while ordinarily the establishment is defeated by some non-establishment elite group, the process of defeat can be as destructive as was the US Civil War.

    • Replies: @Thea
    @Anonymous


    The group’s reasoning is that the establishment will be replaced whatever they do, the good times are coming to an end, so it is best to stock up for the replacement’s hard times. “Make hay before the sunset” would be a whimsical way to describe the mindset.
     
    Well some of the interest groups have notoriously low future time orientation but for other groups, this makes sense.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  218. @3g4me
    And Sailer joins the hullaballoo about trannies while everyone ignores that 'brilliant' Chapelle's gig included plenty of blatant anti-White 'humor.' Yet again celebrating as 'based' a standard anti-White black who occasionally demonstrates honesty or recognizes reality. You all are so very desperate for a non-White to front for you, to validate that you're not really rayciss, just various ethnic HBD obsessives. What you aren't is pro-White.

    Replies: @adreadline, @AceDeuce

    THANK YOU! I was just about to say something about that.

    That bucktoothed niqqur Chappelle is about as funny as a baby’s open casket funeral. His unfunny routine is evidently hilarious to low IQ Gen X/ Milleniwipe White dudebros who grew up in the suburbs and robotically find anything a niggro does to be wonderful. Chappelle could take a dump on a plate and they’d applaud.

    In this most recent issue. Chappelle went on fricking record to “explain” that the butt of his jokes is meant to be White people. Phuck him. He lives in an all White area, he married a ghooker, and he was going nowhere with his corny schitt until Neal Brennan, a White cuck boi, became this brains of his outfit.

  219. @Steve Sailer
    @Elmer T. Jones

    Ohio was the more or less the center of Western Civilization for about 150 years.

    Replies: @S Johnson, @AceDeuce

    And Cleveland was the Silicon Valley of 1900.

  220. @John Milton’s Ghost
    I actually watched Chapelle’s specials twice to see what the keefuffle is about. This last one was on the whole practically a love letter to the trans community. He had a couple really funny lines—because otherwise what is the point of a comedy special—and he didn’t offer a full apology, but there were qualifications and acknowledgments of them throughout. He even said when I’m talking about you (Trans) I’m mostly mad at white racists. His next special will probably focus on making fun of white supremacists. I kind of like the guy, if only because a comic who is focused more on his craft than his politics is worth something. That might change given his trajectory.

    The inability of millennials to think critically and read evidence is just as much a problem today. Wokeness is driven by extremists but it gets no traction without the mentally ill and stupid lapping it up

    Replies: @S Johnson

    There’s probably a sense in which this outrage is being conflated (including by Netflix) as an excuse to purge non-trans-sympathetic employees, insist upon mandatory pronouns (I notice them in email signatures now), and commission a lot more trans programming.

  221. @Joe S.Walker
    @Daniel H

    Mr Jenner truly looks and behaves like a bullying asshole there.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    That’s not Jenner. It’s the former Bob Tur, now a tranny.

    • Replies: @Joe S.Walker
    @AceDeuce

    Well, it's still a bullying asshole.

  222. Also note that Chappelle didn’t take on the ex-men until he’d safely cashed all the checks from Netflix. He’s not a fool.

    • Replies: @Mr Mox
    @S Johnson

    ...the thing that really stood out was how much he is paid to do those specials. Since 2017, he’s done six – each about 70 minutes long. Netflix reportedly pays him $20 million per show.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/dave-chappelle-s-show-is-a-rip-off

    Replies: @S Johnson

  223. @S Johnson
    Also note that Chappelle didn’t take on the ex-men until he’d safely cashed all the checks from Netflix. He’s not a fool.

    Replies: @Mr Mox

    …the thing that really stood out was how much he is paid to do those specials. Since 2017, he’s done six – each about 70 minutes long. Netflix reportedly pays him \$20 million per show.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/dave-chappelle-s-show-is-a-rip-off

    • Replies: @S Johnson
    @Mr Mox

    Nice work if you can get it. US comics aren’t always prepared for the reaction they’ll get in the less standup-centric UK. Sarah Silverman was memorably booed on her London debut and for once in her career left lost for words, although Chappelle’s audience seems to have been more respectful.

    https://nypost.com/2008/10/20/sarah-silverman-slammed-abroad/

  224. @Steve Sailer
    @Elmer T. Jones

    Which liberal abolitionist Ohio college are Dave Chappelle's parents associated with? Antioch? Oberlin?

    When the brilliant black guy who is the most distinguished scion of almost 200 years of extremely progressive culture thinks you are nuts, you are nuts.

    Replies: @New Dealer, @Paperback Writer, @Jack D, @Curle, @Corvinus, @Anon

    “How insane is it that the fetishists in frocks who want to shut them up are treated by the press as the Good Guys Gals?”

    Try a more nuanced approach next time.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/10/dave-chappelle-the-closer/620364/

    We can’t say who the Bad Art Friend is, and we shouldn’t try to resolve The Closer into a simple story of victim and bully. First, because that appears to be the frame Chappelle wants, a funny guy defying the morality police, and the morality police will never win when they’re wagging fingers while he is making jokes. But also because any attempt to reduce the Chappelle story to a wealthy comedian attacking a marginalized community has to consider the show’s final section, which highlights the hypocrisy of those same critics. The story of Daphne Dorman, a trans woman who defended Chappelle online after the backlash to Sticks and Stones, ends with her being dragged on Twitter and her death by suicide. (Though Chappelle acknowledges that he doesn’t know what else was happening in her life, he insinuates a connection. “I bet dragging her didn’t help,” he says.) The special ends with Chappelle saying that Dorman was part of the same minority group as him: “my people”—comedians. He’s had enough of the “punching down.”

  225. @J1234
    @CCZ

    Twice as many thumbs down votes as thumbs up votes, just what every insurance company wants for their ads. So, I guess youtube will be cancelling thumbs down votes in the near future?

    Steve asks:
    "Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World's Most Popular Entertainers?"

    It's culture vs. standard of living. I don't know which will prevail, but the huge portion of the public that claims to despise wokeness generally loves their affluence more than they love their traditional values, so that's the angle of attack the elite left uses. Ironically, as long as they feel they have too much to lose by confronting the most significant moral threat their culture has faced in several generations, those who oppose wokeness have lost. The confrontation will have to be a lot bigger than down votes on youtube.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Ironically, as long as they feel they have too much to lose by confronting the most significant moral threat their culture has faced in several generations, those who oppose wokeness have lost. The confrontation will have to be a lot bigger than down votes on youtube.

    This is why a lot of people are starting to believe the collapse will be the cure.

  226. @S Johnson
    @Steve Sailer

    Studying the US presidents in college I found it surprising how many had been from Ohio, a state we heard little about except as a bellwether in presidential elections every four years.

    Replies: @Curle

    There were six elected and two of these ran as unsuccessful major party nominees at one time as well. One election, Harding v Cox, was a race between two Ohio newspapermen. Add up the number of major party nominees from OH and you have quite a list.

    • Replies: @S Johnson
    @Curle

    Seven born in Ohio. Grant lived there until going off to West Point, and only became a resident of Illinois in 1860. He led a peripatetic life before and after the Civil War. He visited Europe, Africa and the Far East after leaving office and apparently got blind drunk at the British residence in India.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

  227. Anon[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @Gordo
    OT but Prince Willian is against billionaires in space:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10088619/Prince-William-slams-space-race.html

    His own helicopter fun after all was for the good of the plebs and not facilitated in any way by his grandmother being head of the air force.

    Does he really think the monarchy will long survive her passing? Canada and Australia will declare themselves republics within days.

    Does he think that his billions are cleaner because they were won with the battleaxe centuries ago?

    Does he think this global warming showboating will make the royals popular when they have not said one word against the dsipossession of the White working class?

    Replies: @Anon

    The royal family owns 87 percent of the land of Canada. All but the 50 miles north of the US border is unusable 8 months of the year, but still, the royals own it. Australia is similar. Plus there is the alliance of the royal family, The City of London off shore banks in the British commonwealth Caribbean islands. Money is vastly more important than fancy clothes and ridiculous ceremonies.

    King George Guelph of Hanover George 1 the first King of England didn’t win Britain by battleaxe and invasion. Although number 50 in the line of succession, he became King of England because numbers 1 through 48 in the line of succession were Roman Catholics and it was illegal to be a Roman Catholic in England at the time. His mother Sophia Guelph was number 49 and the first protestant in the line of succession. Sophia was a descendant of Elizabeth Stuart daughter of King James the first. Elizabeth and her husband, the Elector of Palatine were the couple responsible for starting the 30 years war. One of the most destructive wars in the blood drenched history of Europe. Their most famous son was Prince Rupert of the Rhine. Popularly known as Prince Rupert the Robber because of all the looting generals of the 30 years war, he looted the most money and treasures of all the looters of the 30 years war.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Anon

    “King George Guelph of Hanover George 1 the first King of England”

    This isn’t remotely true. He wasn’t even the first non-Catholic King. Henry VIII by splitting with the Catholic Church is arguably the first non-Catholic. His son Edward 6 was never a Catholic and both he and his sister Elizabeth 1 preceded George 1 by several reigns.

  228. Anon[406] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Elmer T. Jones

    Which liberal abolitionist Ohio college are Dave Chappelle's parents associated with? Antioch? Oberlin?

    When the brilliant black guy who is the most distinguished scion of almost 200 years of extremely progressive culture thinks you are nuts, you are nuts.

    Replies: @New Dealer, @Paperback Writer, @Jack D, @Curle, @Corvinus, @Anon

    His father taught some kind of Crapology at Oberlin and got some affirmative action promotions. Divorced parents when he was very young. Dave lived in crime ridden black Washington DC with Mom Dave spent summers school holidays with Dad in peaceful small town Ohio. Loved it because of the contrast with ghetto DC. Raising his kids on a farm near Yellow Springs.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Anon

    406, what's your beef with punctuation?

    Nicholas "I am a comma,nist" Stix

  229. @Polistra
    @Dennis Dale

    Funny you should mention. Speaking of fetishists in frocks..

    https://i.ibb.co/t2dsMzc/Screenshot-20211016-073259-Daily-Mail-Online.jpg

    Okay, apparently that's Page Six, but it was an ad in the Daily Mail.

    I'm just hoping it's not a targeted ad..

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

    The Mail’s right-hand column cannot be unseen. It’s hilarious how they post photos of Lizzo with the same language they use when posting photos of someone like Kim Kardashian.
    “Lizzo sends pulses racing in sheer gown…”

    Well yeah, I guess my heart rate has to go up when I’m running away or recoiling in fright.
    It’s like they’re trolling us.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Dennis Dale

    Never heard of this 'Lizzo' before, and would like never to again. Yet:

    Her line beginning with "Kiss my fat..." is pretty much the Credo for Our Times, is it not? Perhaps we should adopt it formally—as a nation—to replace that shopworn and obsolete E Pluribus Unum.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

  230. @Jack D
    @Paperback Writer

    Democrats didn't get more than 50% of the presidential vote in Colorado until 2008 so it is not exactly DEEP blue. It's pretty recent.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Paperback Writer

    I could go either way with that.

    There seems to be some indication that the Covidian mandates are forcing a lot of internal migration. We Sailer-commenters are accustomed to looking at the difference between appearance and reality, so let’s wait and see.

    If Colorado’s blueness is as marginal as you make it out to be, this internal migration, if it occurs, might tip it red.

    There is just so much that’s up in the air. And so much that is surprising.

    Who could have predicted that Mexican Americans in Texas were going to be so disgusted with illegal immigration and with black rioting that they would actually vote Republican? I wasn’t surprised, at the disgust, but I was surprised that they voted Republican. Yet it has happened.

    Back to Colorado, I’m not an expert on Colorado Democrats, but even if they are not demographically overwhelming, they strike me as being even more obnoxious than Massachusetts Democrats, and that’s saying quite a lot. Witness the persecution of the Christian baker.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Paperback Writer

    Colorado is a good case study. It is still a purple state that mirrors the whole of the United States in the sense that it is red in the countryside and in most places outside the "enclaves" we have here have been writing about.

    I grew up in a Republican stronghold near Boulder, and then I eventually went to college in Boulder and stayed there working and living a bacchanalian, um, excuse me, bachelor life for several years. That city has always been, as far as I can tell, as blue as anything. We called it the People's Republic of Boulder. Places like that seldom represent the larger areas in which they exist.

    My first favorite professor there turned me into a communist in one semester.

    This contrast between Left and Right was particularly stark there, where there are miles of open land and rural people in the surrounding areas. Working a temp job building ranch fences on the plains to the east, that rancher said to me, "all this open land around us will one day be crowded with people -- like India." He was red-pilled 30 years ago about what he assumed would eventually happen to America. His ranch was perhaps 10 miles east of Boulder.

    Bottom line: Jack's assessment is correct. Colorado has not been blue very long, and it has a very long previous history of being red, with many red people and communities extant.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @Paperback Writer

    My wife just cooked some Lamb Tagine, so, if you will excuse me, I am leaving now...


    http://cdn.primedia.co.za/primedia-broadcasting/image/upload/v1513161134/o18gpvv0wexk7sskywtc.jpg

    , @AnotherDad
    @Paperback Writer


    There seems to be some indication that the Covidian mandates are forcing a lot of internal migration. We Sailer-commenters are accustomed to looking at the difference between appearance and reality, so let’s wait and see.
     
    Good point. It will be interesting to see this play out.

    It's a small scale--"vote with your feet"--version of my separationism. (Many people are fairly rooted for economic or family reasons so there are limits.)

    But i doubt it affects Colorado much. Colorado has had a horde of California refugees for decades.... but then those folks end up voting like Californians! And as it booms, you get the Asian tech immigrants as well. And then the Hispanic influx.

    And even if it flipped? What good are "Republicans" if they are cheap labor loving shills? More Asians for tech, more Mexicans for the ranchers and builders ... screw my voters $$$.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  231. @Curle
    @S Johnson

    There were six elected and two of these ran as unsuccessful major party nominees at one time as well. One election, Harding v Cox, was a race between two Ohio newspapermen. Add up the number of major party nominees from OH and you have quite a list.

    Replies: @S Johnson

    Seven born in Ohio. Grant lived there until going off to West Point, and only became a resident of Illinois in 1860. He led a peripatetic life before and after the Civil War. He visited Europe, Africa and the Far East after leaving office and apparently got blind drunk at the British residence in India.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @S Johnson

    Ohio's an interesting place. It's only 34th in size (although 7th in population), but it packs a lot of punch. It's been said that it's the:

    Northern state that's farthest "South" (The southern part of the state has hills and hollers, Rebel flags and moonshiners and all that good stuff.

    Southern state that's farthest "North"--Cleveland, Toledo, Akron, etc, which in terms of heavy manufacturing and White Euro ethnic diversity rivaled, in their prime, Chicago, Detroit, and Pittsburgh.

    Northeastern state that's farthest west.

    And Midwestern state that's farthest east.

  232. @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D

    I could go either way with that.

    There seems to be some indication that the Covidian mandates are forcing a lot of internal migration. We Sailer-commenters are accustomed to looking at the difference between appearance and reality, so let's wait and see.

    If Colorado's blueness is as marginal as you make it out to be, this internal migration, if it occurs, might tip it red.

    There is just so much that's up in the air. And so much that is surprising.

    Who could have predicted that Mexican Americans in Texas were going to be so disgusted with illegal immigration and with black rioting that they would actually vote Republican? I wasn't surprised, at the disgust, but I was surprised that they voted Republican. Yet it has happened.

    Back to Colorado, I'm not an expert on Colorado Democrats, but even if they are not demographically overwhelming, they strike me as being even more obnoxious than Massachusetts Democrats, and that's saying quite a lot. Witness the persecution of the Christian baker.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Buzz Mohawk, @AnotherDad

    Colorado is a good case study. It is still a purple state that mirrors the whole of the United States in the sense that it is red in the countryside and in most places outside the “enclaves” we have here have been writing about.

    I grew up in a Republican stronghold near Boulder, and then I eventually went to college in Boulder and stayed there working and living a bacchanalian, um, excuse me, bachelor life for several years. That city has always been, as far as I can tell, as blue as anything. We called it the People’s Republic of Boulder. Places like that seldom represent the larger areas in which they exist.

    My first favorite professor there turned me into a communist in one semester.

    This contrast between Left and Right was particularly stark there, where there are miles of open land and rural people in the surrounding areas. Working a temp job building ranch fences on the plains to the east, that rancher said to me, “all this open land around us will one day be crowded with people — like India.” He was red-pilled 30 years ago about what he assumed would eventually happen to America. His ranch was perhaps 10 miles east of Boulder.

    Bottom line: Jack’s assessment is correct. Colorado has not been blue very long, and it has a very long previous history of being red, with many red people and communities extant.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Buzz Mohawk

    NY State is similar - except that it has that huge, blue(ish) city in its guts.

    I say bluish because NYers really aren't blue the way they are in Massachusetts, but that's another discussion for another day.

    Suffice it to say that the state is mostly conservative with urban liberals.

    Perhaps enough shell-shocked refugees will turn it sane again.

    The problem is this: the Republican party is brain dead and run by jerks. Never underestimate the power of a good candidate. Where are they?

    Bon Appetit! Lamb tagine is delicious.

  233. @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D

    I could go either way with that.

    There seems to be some indication that the Covidian mandates are forcing a lot of internal migration. We Sailer-commenters are accustomed to looking at the difference between appearance and reality, so let's wait and see.

    If Colorado's blueness is as marginal as you make it out to be, this internal migration, if it occurs, might tip it red.

    There is just so much that's up in the air. And so much that is surprising.

    Who could have predicted that Mexican Americans in Texas were going to be so disgusted with illegal immigration and with black rioting that they would actually vote Republican? I wasn't surprised, at the disgust, but I was surprised that they voted Republican. Yet it has happened.

    Back to Colorado, I'm not an expert on Colorado Democrats, but even if they are not demographically overwhelming, they strike me as being even more obnoxious than Massachusetts Democrats, and that's saying quite a lot. Witness the persecution of the Christian baker.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Buzz Mohawk, @AnotherDad

    My wife just cooked some Lamb Tagine, so, if you will excuse me, I am leaving now…

  234. @Jack D
    Chappelle should have killed someone instead of criticizing trannies. THAT is forgivable.

    Replies: @raga10

    Chappelle should have killed someone instead of criticizing trannies. THAT is forgivable.

    Isn’t that precisely his point? Doesn’t he have one routine where he says that some guy shot another black and that did nothing to harm his career, but god forbid someone insulted a tranny?

    I’m not especially sympathetic towards Chappelle – the whole point of his routine seems to be that trannies made rapid progress towards acceptance and status while blacks languish. Which is not neccessarily true in the first place, and it completely ignores the fact that some blacks and other minorities ARE also trannies. It is ridiculous to conflate that particular affliction with whiteness only.

    He says that he’s jealous of them; I think that’s it, exactly.

  235. @Dennis Dale
    @Paperback Writer

    I was going to say "pickiness" and promiscuity don't go together, but actually they do. Cue the famous Randy Shilts quote about the brutal hierarchy of gay sexual attraction. I overheard a gay-sounding guy telling another that "tops" are mostly the more attractive guys, who get to dictate (please no puns).

    Even if you take out the masculine aspect of gay sexual relations, you still have a group of people for whom sex has had up until the "gay marriage" movement no relation to marriage or procreation, which still loom over even the most degenerate heterosexual environments. The dynamic of women choosing men who compete for them is gone, replaced only by, perhaps, the dynamic of the most desired choosing. Everyone is On the Make.

    Of course, with birth control and sexual liberation they've managed to make heterosexual culture resemble gay culture, at the same time crafting the image of the domestic gay, marrying, adopting, mimicking heterosexual relations. It's quite remarkable what they've achieved: making heteros "gay" in their promiscuity, and gays "straight" in their domesticity.

    I watched part of a Sex and the City episode years ago and I realized the slut character (who gave a random dude a blow job) is a transposed gay cruiser. It all seems rather deliberate.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Nicholas Stix, @Tracy

    Dennis Dale:
    I watched part of a Sex and the City episode years ago and I realized the slut character (who gave a random dude a blow job) is a transposed gay cruiser. It all seems rather deliberate.

    Sex and the City did a number on sex and marriage and all that sort of thing. The big gay “wedding” between Anthony and Standford includes these lines:

    Carrie Bradshaw, the Best Woman: “FYI, Anthony’s out there telling everyone he’s allowed to cheat.”

    Stanford: “I know. He hates the traditions, so he pushes against them.”

    Carrie Bradshaw: “So he’s allowed to cheat?”

    Stanford: “Yes, but only in the 45 states where we’re not legally married.”

    Then Liza Minelli shows up to marry the couple. One of her lines, said after the audience laughs: “Quiet now! Weddings are serious. At least that’s what I’ve heard.”

    Such a mockery of marriage. Clip of all that from “Sex and the City 2” (2010): https://youtu.be/4g8w4ikcR5g

    • Thanks: Dennis Dale
    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Tracy

    Candace Bushenll, the old hag who wrote the book on which the series was based, now bemoans the fact that she's old & childless. Look around on the net. I can't be arsed.

  236. @Mr Mox
    @S Johnson

    ...the thing that really stood out was how much he is paid to do those specials. Since 2017, he’s done six – each about 70 minutes long. Netflix reportedly pays him $20 million per show.

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/dave-chappelle-s-show-is-a-rip-off

    Replies: @S Johnson

    Nice work if you can get it. US comics aren’t always prepared for the reaction they’ll get in the less standup-centric UK. Sarah Silverman was memorably booed on her London debut and for once in her career left lost for words, although Chappelle’s audience seems to have been more respectful.

    https://nypost.com/2008/10/20/sarah-silverman-slammed-abroad/

  237. @Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    His father taught some kind of Crapology at Oberlin and got some affirmative action promotions. Divorced parents when he was very young. Dave lived in crime ridden black Washington DC with Mom Dave spent summers school holidays with Dad in peaceful small town Ohio. Loved it because of the contrast with ghetto DC. Raising his kids on a farm near Yellow Springs.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    406, what’s your beef with punctuation?

    Nicholas “I am a comma,nist” Stix

  238. @AnotherDad
    @JimDandy


    “Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World’s Most Popular Entertainers?”

    I’d like an answer, please. Or at least a theory.
     
    This is straightforward: Minoritarianism.

    We've are ruled this morally inverted official dogma where the highest good is not the interest of the nation--i.e. its normal, healthy, productive people--reproducing itself, but rather the interests of sanctified "minorities".

    The trannies successfully attached themselves to that. And because trannies are the brand new "minority de jour", a tiny group themselves and because there is a bit of normie pushback there is an extra frisson to fighting the "oppression" of trannies. It's like the young men signing up in 1914. World War T is where the battle against evil reactionaries is right now! And people--especially narratively compliant young women--can demonstrate their exquisite virtue by "bravely" tweeting or cancelling the enemy.

    Replies: @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    Right. Minoritariasim has been noted also by Nassim Taleb.

    Go here:

    https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15#.z5ry4bucq

    His view is that the minority needs to reach a certain numerical percentage for their preferences to have sway over the majority, but I would take it one step further: a minority of the population has to AGREE with the status/wishes/needs of the minority, even if they aren’t part of the minority group.

    And businesses go along, and why not? Especially if it’s anodyne, though at times even if it isn’t. At some point any product that can be labeled Gluten Free WILL be labeled Gluten Free. Path of least resistance. The Gluten Minority will have won.

  239. @AndrewR
    Being black and having eulogized Saint George "I cain't breeve" Floyd might not save Chappelle.

    Replies: @Catdompanj, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    My hope is that Dave Chappelle, one of great comedic talents ever to come along, knows deep down there are parts of the Black thing that are really bad, including St. George.

    After all, he chooses to live in Ohio.

    But maybe it’s too much to hope.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    “My hope is that Dave Chappelle, one of great comedic talents ever to come along, knows deep down there are parts of the Black thing that are really bad,”

    Lol, you clearly did not watch his sketches.

  240. @Mike Tre
    "As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture."

    How many Navy Seals have you met? Because I have met and interacted with several dozen when I was in the Marines. Each of the two deployments I did my platoon was on the same ship as the Seal team (and a MC Force Recon platoon.)

    I found the Seals to be friendly, if understandably a bit aloof. They were not pushy, ignorant, or demanding. They did not use their status as elite warriors to gain favor or intimidate normal servicemen or start fights or any of those things we see tranny's do on a regular basis.

    I think Steve is confusing obsessiveness with staunch discipline in his comparison. Not to mention the fact that tranny's are mentally ill to some extent. The aggression that tranny's exhibit is more along the lines of negro aggression: Uncontrolled and driven by emotion. It is enhanced by the lack of consequences directed towards them. The aggression Seals exhibit is calculated, controlled, and focused.

    In short, Steve needs to stop associating masculinity (a positive thing) with the deranged behavior of mentally ill perverts, and to a lesser extent, violent negro behavior.

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Matt Buckalew, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    Steve can speak for himself, but I think he used the analogy to point out that the Fetishists in Frocks are vicious and deadly, not that they are focused and calm in operational planning meetings and polite standing in line for ice cream with their wives and kids the night before they deploy on a mission to wax some tribal nutjob.

    Let’s not take it TOO literal.

  241. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Paperback Writer

    Colorado is a good case study. It is still a purple state that mirrors the whole of the United States in the sense that it is red in the countryside and in most places outside the "enclaves" we have here have been writing about.

    I grew up in a Republican stronghold near Boulder, and then I eventually went to college in Boulder and stayed there working and living a bacchanalian, um, excuse me, bachelor life for several years. That city has always been, as far as I can tell, as blue as anything. We called it the People's Republic of Boulder. Places like that seldom represent the larger areas in which they exist.

    My first favorite professor there turned me into a communist in one semester.

    This contrast between Left and Right was particularly stark there, where there are miles of open land and rural people in the surrounding areas. Working a temp job building ranch fences on the plains to the east, that rancher said to me, "all this open land around us will one day be crowded with people -- like India." He was red-pilled 30 years ago about what he assumed would eventually happen to America. His ranch was perhaps 10 miles east of Boulder.

    Bottom line: Jack's assessment is correct. Colorado has not been blue very long, and it has a very long previous history of being red, with many red people and communities extant.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    NY State is similar – except that it has that huge, blue(ish) city in its guts.

    I say bluish because NYers really aren’t blue the way they are in Massachusetts, but that’s another discussion for another day.

    Suffice it to say that the state is mostly conservative with urban liberals.

    Perhaps enough shell-shocked refugees will turn it sane again.

    The problem is this: the Republican party is brain dead and run by jerks. Never underestimate the power of a good candidate. Where are they?

    Bon Appetit! Lamb tagine is delicious.

  242. @Tracy
    @Dennis Dale

    Dennis Dale:
    I watched part of a Sex and the City episode years ago and I realized the slut character (who gave a random dude a blow job) is a transposed gay cruiser. It all seems rather deliberate.

    Sex and the City did a number on sex and marriage and all that sort of thing. The big gay "wedding" between Anthony and Standford includes these lines:


    Carrie Bradshaw, the Best Woman: "FYI, Anthony's out there telling everyone he's allowed to cheat."

    Stanford: "I know. He hates the traditions, so he pushes against them."

    Carrie Bradshaw: "So he's allowed to cheat?"

    Stanford: "Yes, but only in the 45 states where we're not legally married."
     
    Then Liza Minelli shows up to marry the couple. One of her lines, said after the audience laughs: "Quiet now! Weddings are serious. At least that's what I've heard."

    Such a mockery of marriage. Clip of all that from "Sex and the City 2" (2010): https://youtu.be/4g8w4ikcR5g

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Candace Bushenll, the old hag who wrote the book on which the series was based, now bemoans the fact that she’s old & childless. Look around on the net. I can’t be arsed.

  243. @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia
    @AndrewR

    My hope is that Dave Chappelle, one of great comedic talents ever to come along, knows deep down there are parts of the Black thing that are really bad, including St. George.

    After all, he chooses to live in Ohio.

    But maybe it's too much to hope.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “My hope is that Dave Chappelle, one of great comedic talents ever to come along, knows deep down there are parts of the Black thing that are really bad,”

    Lol, you clearly did not watch his sketches.

  244. @Anon
    @Gordo

    The royal family owns 87 percent of the land of Canada. All but the 50 miles north of the US border is unusable 8 months of the year, but still, the royals own it. Australia is similar. Plus there is the alliance of the royal family, The City of London off shore banks in the British commonwealth Caribbean islands. Money is vastly more important than fancy clothes and ridiculous ceremonies.

    King George Guelph of Hanover George 1 the first King of England didn't win Britain by battleaxe and invasion. Although number 50 in the line of succession, he became King of England because numbers 1 through 48 in the line of succession were Roman Catholics and it was illegal to be a Roman Catholic in England at the time. His mother Sophia Guelph was number 49 and the first protestant in the line of succession. Sophia was a descendant of Elizabeth Stuart daughter of King James the first. Elizabeth and her husband, the Elector of Palatine were the couple responsible for starting the 30 years war. One of the most destructive wars in the blood drenched history of Europe. Their most famous son was Prince Rupert of the Rhine. Popularly known as Prince Rupert the Robber because of all the looting generals of the 30 years war, he looted the most money and treasures of all the looters of the 30 years war.

    Replies: @Curle

    “King George Guelph of Hanover George 1 the first King of England”

    This isn’t remotely true. He wasn’t even the first non-Catholic King. Henry VIII by splitting with the Catholic Church is arguably the first non-Catholic. His son Edward 6 was never a Catholic and both he and his sister Elizabeth 1 preceded George 1 by several reigns.

  245. @Curle
    @Steve Sailer

    Funny sexual trait ‘spectrum’ graph posted at West Hunter.










    https://westhunt.files.wordpress.com/2021/08/spectrum-1.png

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    From Annie Hall:

    [Alvy and Annie at their respective therapists]

    Alvy Singer’s Therapist : How often do you sleep together?

    Alvy Singer : [lamenting] Hardly ever. Maybe three times a week.

    Annie Hall’s Therapist : Do you have sex often?

    Annie Hall : [annoyed] Constantly. I’d say three times a week.

  246. @Reg Cæsar
    @Paperback Writer


    Only problem with Boulder is that it’s in a disgustingly blue state.
     
    Colorado Biden vote: 55%
    Boulder County Biden vote: 77%

    Anyone have Boulder city's?

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    55% is bad – Boulder isn’t big enough to have skewed it *that* much.

    I just looked up the stats: 5.75 million, 84% white.

    This is an intra-white disaster.

    State needs redemption.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Paperback Writer


    This is an intra-white disaster.

    State needs redemption.
     

    Colorado is the New Vermont.

    In the Carter years, I would notice Corvettes and other expensive vehicles in Manhattan sporting Vermont plates. Later, the same thing in Chicago, but with Iowa tags. One could assume the same thing was going on between California and Colorado.

    I called it the green plate ruse. Surely the insurance companies had more colorful, even aromatic, names for it.

    Though many of the owners actually did decamp for those states once they had saved enough to live on the lower wages.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  247. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)


    There are also lesbians (lots of overlap with radical feminists) who object to an essentialist MtF trans identity (i.e., trans women are real women)
     
    Your use of the word 'essentialist' here is a travesty. I mean, it is utterly, completely, and 100% the opposite of the word's actual meaning. You should have said a positivist trans identity.

    This is important in this day and age, since real essentialism is the antidote to all the trans insanity. An essentialist would hold that each individual's sexual nature is inherent in their soul (i.e. the substantial form of their body), and that this immaterial quality is prior to all biological distinctions and is indeed itself what makes the biological distinctions, and that any apparent contradictions to this scheme are the result of defects on the material side, not of something qualitatively different in essence.

    Thus, even in the most extreme cases (e.g. ambiguous genitalia, missing genitalia, chromosomal abnormalities, etc.), each individual person is essentially male or female, they are exactly one of these, and there is no third possibility.

    The essentialist's claim of sexual realism is much stronger than the so-called "biological" realism one meets with around here. Biology, being at its best the classification of the sensible aspects of living things, is powerless to supply a corrective when those aspects are themselves ambiguous. For all biology can say, an XXY person really is a third sex. Essentialism would say that this person is essentially a male or a female with a material defect in ploidy.

    Of course, I have also argued elsewhere that race is an essential property, that it belongs to the immaterial side of life, and that this claim is much stronger than the silly "biological" race-realism of HBD. That point was not well understood, but this one should be quite a bit more obvious.

    Replies: @Eugene Norman, @Johnny Rico

    For all biology can say, an XXY person really is a third sex.

    Maybe not what’s that got to do with gender identity, which totally ignores biology. If this was just that minuscule number of people with ambiguous genitalia there would be no problem.

  248. As I’ve pointed out before, when it comes to sheer masculine obsessiveness and aggression, man for man, the ex-men are the Seal Team Six of cancel culture.

    Slight correction, the ex-men who received estrogen/surgery after the onset of secondary puberty characteristics, because practically every woman on TV is an ex-man (or boy, more accurately), who was castrated young.

  249. @Paperback Writer
    @Reg Cæsar

    55% is bad - Boulder isn't big enough to have skewed it *that* much.

    I just looked up the stats: 5.75 million, 84% white.

    This is an intra-white disaster.

    State needs redemption.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    This is an intra-white disaster.

    State needs redemption.

    Colorado is the New Vermont.

    In the Carter years, I would notice Corvettes and other expensive vehicles in Manhattan sporting Vermont plates. Later, the same thing in Chicago, but with Iowa tags. One could assume the same thing was going on between California and Colorado.

    I called it the green plate ruse. Surely the insurance companies had more colorful, even aromatic, names for it.

    Though many of the owners actually did decamp for those states once they had saved enough to live on the lower wages.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Reg Cæsar

    I haven't read this carefully because of work load but see this:

    https://vdare.com/articles/the-legal-foundations-of-the-american-gulag-are-being-laid-we-appeal-vdare-vs-colorado-springs-to-u-s-supreme-court

    He refers to RINO mayor of Col Springs - I'd love to see an analysis of RINOism leading to wokeism. Strikes me there's as big a relationship between RINOs and woke as between out and out left Democrats and woke.

  250. @AceDeuce
    @Joe S.Walker

    That's not Jenner. It's the former Bob Tur, now a tranny.

    Replies: @Joe S.Walker

    Well, it’s still a bullying asshole.

    • Agree: AceDeuce
  251. @megabar
    The acceptance that being trans is healthy, beautiful, and natural -- despite requiring modern surgery and medicine -- is literally the most absurd belief ever believed by a large group of people in history.

    Other beliefs are more harmful, or as silly since the advent of science. But none represent as great a gap between what should be obvious given the times, and what is accepted.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Altai, @Reactive Reaction

    “The acceptance that being trans is healthy, beautiful, and natural — despite requiring modern surgery and medicine — is literally the most absurd belief ever believed by a large group of people in history”

    One could dispute that the accepting group is “large”.

  252. @rebel yell
    @undisclosed

    "Yes Minister" and it's follow up "Yes Prime Minister"

    Replies: @Undisclosed

    Yeah, I found it. It’s not quite as funny though. At least not these days. I definitely appreciate the suggestion though. If I had not found it a month ago I definitely would have taken you up on the suggestion today. Appreciate it bro.

  253. @Nicholas Stix
    @Dennis Dale

    "I watched part of a Sex and the City episode years ago and I realized the slut character (who gave a random dude a blow job) is a transposed gay cruiser."

    IIRC, that show was written by gay guys.

    Replies: @Reactive Reaction

    Sex in the City was entirely a show about the urban life of gay men, with females playing the roles to make it acceptable for 1997 or whenevet.

  254. @Elmer T. Jones
    Chappelle is opening a comedy club in nearby Yellow Springs, Ohio, which may turn that sleepy hipster enclave into the next Austin or Boise as refugees pour out of California. I saw bearded ladies and tranz-men in Yellow Springs 50 years ago, so he may inadvertently be promoting the bohemian lifestyle that he cruelly mocks in his show. My weed connection, an aging hippie from Yellow Springs who served time in the Big House back in the 70s for dealing, is concerned that real estate prices have already surged in the village.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Paperback Writer, @e, @AnotherDad, @Paul Jolliffe

    Might you have been in Yellow Springs in 1957/58, and/or did you ever spend time as a student at Antioch College?
    (Or know anyone who was there then?)

  255. @Dennis Dale
    @Polistra

    The Mail's right-hand column cannot be unseen. It's hilarious how they post photos of Lizzo with the same language they use when posting photos of someone like Kim Kardashian.
    "Lizzo sends pulses racing in sheer gown..."

    Well yeah, I guess my heart rate has to go up when I'm running away or recoiling in fright.
    It's like they're trolling us.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Never heard of this ‘Lizzo’ before, and would like never to again. Yet:

    Her line beginning with “Kiss my fat…” is pretty much the Credo for Our Times, is it not? Perhaps we should adopt it formally—as a nation—to replace that shopworn and obsolete E Pluribus Unum.

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @HammerJack

    E Pluribus Anus

  256. @Elmer T. Jones
    @AnotherDad

    A couple years ago I bought for $170K (well, took out a loan at that inflated price) a ranch home on half an acre in a quiet, midcentury neighborhood in a semi-rural setting just a few miles from Xenia. Abundant bird and wildlife; deer, eagles, hawks, owls, many other smaller birds. At night there is zero traffic noise. We go for walks around the neighborhood and encounter one or two cars. Nice wooded parks nearby also, walking distance from the house. Shopping and hospital 2 minutes from the house. Plenty of local tech jobs. New McMansions start around $300K. People are nicer here than places I have lived in the Southwest. A weed dispensary is opening across the street from my office. The area has some downsides, mainly the brutal 7 month winters. Ironic that I relocated here after decades thinking it was the pits, but given the actual quality of life I enjoy here, wherever we move to in the future is going to have to exceed that. There are no homeless camps, mainly because housing is plentiful and many of our homeless have moved to California where they enjoy the beachbum lifestyle. The Yellow Springs hipsters are something of a blight but that is buffered by the traditional local culture. One of my ancestors was buried in Clifton Gorge cemetery in 1850. When I found his headstone I laughed that the crackers had misspelled his name they way they still mispronounce it.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AnotherDad

    A couple years ago I bought for \$170K (well, took out a loan at that inflated price) a ranch home on half an acre in a quiet, midcentury neighborhood in a semi-rural setting just a few miles from Xenia. Abundant bird and wildlife; deer, eagles, hawks, owls, many other smaller birds. At night there is zero traffic noise. We go for walks around the neighborhood and encounter one or two cars. Nice wooded parks nearby also, walking distance from the house. Shopping and hospital 2 minutes from the house. Plenty of local tech jobs. New McMansions start around \$300K. People are nicer here than places I have lived in the Southwest. …

    Good stuff, Mr. Jones. Flyover country has a lot of quality of life positives. I’m happy for you. Hope you enjoy your SW Ohio patch.

    I’ve only been once–a scout outing–but i think your “Clifton Gorge”–that piece of the Little Miami through there–is really nice. I remember it mostly because one scout, playing on a big bolder, slid on some moss and a tree branch snagged his arm on the way down and ripped it wide open. My dad–our scoutmaster–bandaged him up and with some older scouts hustled him off to the hospital for surgery, but the rest of us really enjoyed our loop through the gorge.

    BTW, you really can’t call it a “brutal 7 month winter”. You’re not in Minnesota. You’re not even in the permanent snow belt. (In college, i used to hitchhike up to my girlfriend’s place in Cleveland the perma-snow line is a bit north of Columbus.) The fall there is very nice, generally dry–my favorite season. I bet it’s nice there right now. (Yesterday was great here in the PNW, but October has already been mostly soggy and November is reliably a dripfest.) Winter there doesn’t really start until December. And it’s over by late March. “April showers” can be soggy, but May is usually quite, quite nice. You’ve got midwest weather, but it’s pretty nice midwest weather. Don’t compare it to the SW winter and it will be pretty pleasant.

    Good luck with it!

  257. @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D

    I could go either way with that.

    There seems to be some indication that the Covidian mandates are forcing a lot of internal migration. We Sailer-commenters are accustomed to looking at the difference between appearance and reality, so let's wait and see.

    If Colorado's blueness is as marginal as you make it out to be, this internal migration, if it occurs, might tip it red.

    There is just so much that's up in the air. And so much that is surprising.

    Who could have predicted that Mexican Americans in Texas were going to be so disgusted with illegal immigration and with black rioting that they would actually vote Republican? I wasn't surprised, at the disgust, but I was surprised that they voted Republican. Yet it has happened.

    Back to Colorado, I'm not an expert on Colorado Democrats, but even if they are not demographically overwhelming, they strike me as being even more obnoxious than Massachusetts Democrats, and that's saying quite a lot. Witness the persecution of the Christian baker.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Buzz Mohawk, @AnotherDad

    There seems to be some indication that the Covidian mandates are forcing a lot of internal migration. We Sailer-commenters are accustomed to looking at the difference between appearance and reality, so let’s wait and see.

    Good point. It will be interesting to see this play out.

    It’s a small scale–“vote with your feet”–version of my separationism. (Many people are fairly rooted for economic or family reasons so there are limits.)

    But i doubt it affects Colorado much. Colorado has had a horde of California refugees for decades…. but then those folks end up voting like Californians! And as it booms, you get the Asian tech immigrants as well. And then the Hispanic influx.

    And even if it flipped? What good are “Republicans” if they are cheap labor loving shills? More Asians for tech, more Mexicans for the ranchers and builders … screw my voters \$\$\$.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @AnotherDad

    The California refugees are libshits leaving for vague "quality of life" reasons. Essentially they want to be around white people but they are too lib to say so. Their backs weren't up against a wall, they just wanted a better version of the fake paradise they came from.

    This is different. When people leave because they're threatened with job loss, or have lost jobs, they tend to wise up.

    Maybe I'm too much of an optimist but that's how I think. If truly millions of people are uprooted and move out of sheer survival, they'll vote accordingly. (Think of the Mexicans in Texas who are now voting red.)

  258. @Altai
    @Polistra

    Woodson doesn't understand. Abstract support for freedom of speech only has appeal to those with marginalised speech and a very small cohort of people. The rich and the influential support freedom of speech when it helps speech they like more than it does speech they don't. When things reach an inflection point those same organisations will spend their time suppressing speech.

    See also this piece with the former head of the ACLU, Ira Glasser, who apparently can't understand what happened to the ACLU even as the piece makes clear his own love and work for the organisation was very much 'Who/Whom'.

    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/the-disintegration-of-the-aclu-james-kirchick

    What I suspect Woodson and Glasser find odd is that these new leaders are intent on provoking an ethnic conflict while they were happy to just disarm the core ethnic group. But once disarmed, rhetorically and of any validity of their collective interests the next step, endless attack by outgroup ethnocentrists was always assured. It was only a matter of time. Who was going to stop them?

    It's like if the Wehrmacht invaded Poland but somebody flipped a switch and suddenly the German army was full of soldiers who would absolutely never defend each other when they came under attack. They'd only fight back if directly attacked individually. How long do you think they'd last against a Polish army that did work together no matter how much they initially outnumbered and outgunned the Poles? That's the native populations of every Western European country (Except perhaps Denmark) and whites in the US.

    A thought experiment. How racist or violent would a non-white have to act towards white in a public setting before one white stood up for another in a clearly ethnocentric way?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Right, the fear is gone. Despite all the hysteria about ‘right-wing terrorism’ it’s obvious the average lefty agitator has no actual fear of such a thing. In the old days if they trash-talked whites too much they risked ending up like Alan Berg. That’s unthinkable now.

  259. @HammerJack
    @Dennis Dale

    Never heard of this 'Lizzo' before, and would like never to again. Yet:

    Her line beginning with "Kiss my fat..." is pretty much the Credo for Our Times, is it not? Perhaps we should adopt it formally—as a nation—to replace that shopworn and obsolete E Pluribus Unum.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

    E Pluribus Anus

  260. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    This theory implies that the current US government has no single controlling group, that the Joe Biden Presidency is not an accident, but rather a way of making it clear to the Democrat/Republican interest groups that they can simply take whatever they want, and do so without having to ask anybody. The elite establishment will support whatever the interest groups do, as it has no other hope of retaining power.

    As it happens, some racial and sexual groups want to cancel other racial and sexual groups completely. They are being permitted to cancel with the full weight of the Federal Government behind them, just as Epstein was permitted to conduct his operation. The canceling groups may be as mentally ill as Epstein, they may even be what Dutton calls "spiteful mutants", but the canceling groups are nonetheless vital Establishment interest groups, and this is their time of power.

    While the resultant confusion and reliance on raw force appears to presage absolute government, it is in reality just every interest group taking what it can before failure of the establishment that the interest groups have been a part of. The group's reasoning is that the establishment will be replaced whatever they do, the good times are coming to an end, so it is best to stock up for the replacement's hard times. "Make hay before the sunset" would be a whimsical way to describe the mindset.

    And who knows? Maybe the horse will learn to sing and their efforts will actually lead to a totalitarian government. It worked out that way for the USSR.

    I should add that, while ordinarily the establishment is defeated by some non-establishment elite group, the process of defeat can be as destructive as was the US Civil War.

    Replies: @Thea

    The group’s reasoning is that the establishment will be replaced whatever they do, the good times are coming to an end, so it is best to stock up for the replacement’s hard times. “Make hay before the sunset” would be a whimsical way to describe the mindset.

    Well some of the interest groups have notoriously low future time orientation but for other groups, this makes sense.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Thea

    Good point.

    For the groups with low time sense, the shift in American voting does not mean “Seize all the money you can so you will have something for the future”.
    It means “Seize all the power you can so you will have something for the future. If possible, conduct a revolution (or, in contemporary political speech ‘fundamentally transform America’).” The reward matrix for groups with low time sense is about the reward matrix of the King in Macbeth:
    “To be thus is nothing;
    But to be safely thus. . .”
    The reward matrix for a last chance “use it or lose it” effort is about the same for both “seize money” and “seize power, which I think is why I conflated the two.

    Nor am I the only person to see this:
    From a NY Times article on Democrat analyst David Shor, “David Shor Is Telling Democrats What They Don’t Want to Hear”, Oct. 8, 2021:
    ". . .Democrats are on the precipice of an era without any hope of a governing majority. The coming year, while they still control the House, the Senate and the White House, is their last, best chance to alter course. . . . "


    Shor suggests that the Democratic Party mount a deception operation to avoid the precipice mentioned above:

    “ . . . All this comes down to a simple prescription: Democrats should do a lot of polling to figure out which of their views are popular and which are not popular, and then they should talk about the popular stuff and shut up about the unpopular stuff. . . .”

    Shor is a very good analyst, but a poor strategist. Such a deception operation is infeasible without strong coordination from an authoritative central control, and there is no authoritative central control. Nor could there be: we have Pres. Biden because various members of the elite establishment (Democratic and Republican) vetoed everybody more competent, perhaps to give the special interests more freedom in their activities before power is lost. These members will continue to veto any authoritative central control as long as it appears that the establishment special interest groups can no longer swing elections. Or, to rephrase things, for as long as a slightly modified Sailor strategy continues to succeed.

  261. @S Johnson
    @Curle

    Seven born in Ohio. Grant lived there until going off to West Point, and only became a resident of Illinois in 1860. He led a peripatetic life before and after the Civil War. He visited Europe, Africa and the Far East after leaving office and apparently got blind drunk at the British residence in India.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    Ohio’s an interesting place. It’s only 34th in size (although 7th in population), but it packs a lot of punch. It’s been said that it’s the:

    Northern state that’s farthest “South” (The southern part of the state has hills and hollers, Rebel flags and moonshiners and all that good stuff.

    Southern state that’s farthest “North”–Cleveland, Toledo, Akron, etc, which in terms of heavy manufacturing and White Euro ethnic diversity rivaled, in their prime, Chicago, Detroit, and Pittsburgh.

    Northeastern state that’s farthest west.

    And Midwestern state that’s farthest east.

  262. Well I agree with Chappelle’s position on who is a woman, but why the fuck did he ‘mock’ trans-gender people? What is the use of that? Criticise the lunatic ideology, but leave the poor, confused, creatures alone. And don’t give the lunatics behind the scenes any excuse to go even more barking mad.

  263. @S Johnson
    @al gore rhythms

    If a white British MP is murdered by a black Muslim Somali then it’s obviously unacceptable to notice the killer’s ethnicity and religion.

    If a white British MP is murdered by a white British crazy who liked to order far-right magazines online then extrapolate away!

    Replies: @mulga mumblebrain

    The putative killer was, as ever, ‘well-known’ to the authorities. Funny how they are always ‘well-known’.

  264. Anonymous[128] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thea
    @Anonymous


    The group’s reasoning is that the establishment will be replaced whatever they do, the good times are coming to an end, so it is best to stock up for the replacement’s hard times. “Make hay before the sunset” would be a whimsical way to describe the mindset.
     
    Well some of the interest groups have notoriously low future time orientation but for other groups, this makes sense.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Good point.

    For the groups with low time sense, the shift in American voting does not mean “Seize all the money you can so you will have something for the future”.
    It means “Seize all the power you can so you will have something for the future. If possible, conduct a revolution (or, in contemporary political speech ‘fundamentally transform America’).” The reward matrix for groups with low time sense is about the reward matrix of the King in Macbeth:
    “To be thus is nothing;
    But to be safely thus. . .”
    The reward matrix for a last chance “use it or lose it” effort is about the same for both “seize money” and “seize power, which I think is why I conflated the two.

    Nor am I the only person to see this:
    From a NY Times article on Democrat analyst David Shor, “David Shor Is Telling Democrats What They Don’t Want to Hear”, Oct. 8, 2021:
    “. . .Democrats are on the precipice of an era without any hope of a governing majority. The coming year, while they still control the House, the Senate and the White House, is their last, best chance to alter course. . . . ”

    Shor suggests that the Democratic Party mount a deception operation to avoid the precipice mentioned above:

    “ . . . All this comes down to a simple prescription: Democrats should do a lot of polling to figure out which of their views are popular and which are not popular, and then they should talk about the popular stuff and shut up about the unpopular stuff. . . .”

    Shor is a very good analyst, but a poor strategist. Such a deception operation is infeasible without strong coordination from an authoritative central control, and there is no authoritative central control. Nor could there be: we have Pres. Biden because various members of the elite establishment (Democratic and Republican) vetoed everybody more competent, perhaps to give the special interests more freedom in their activities before power is lost. These members will continue to veto any authoritative central control as long as it appears that the establishment special interest groups can no longer swing elections. Or, to rephrase things, for as long as a slightly modified Sailor strategy continues to succeed.

  265. @AnotherDad
    @Paperback Writer


    There seems to be some indication that the Covidian mandates are forcing a lot of internal migration. We Sailer-commenters are accustomed to looking at the difference between appearance and reality, so let’s wait and see.
     
    Good point. It will be interesting to see this play out.

    It's a small scale--"vote with your feet"--version of my separationism. (Many people are fairly rooted for economic or family reasons so there are limits.)

    But i doubt it affects Colorado much. Colorado has had a horde of California refugees for decades.... but then those folks end up voting like Californians! And as it booms, you get the Asian tech immigrants as well. And then the Hispanic influx.

    And even if it flipped? What good are "Republicans" if they are cheap labor loving shills? More Asians for tech, more Mexicans for the ranchers and builders ... screw my voters $$$.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    The California refugees are libshits leaving for vague “quality of life” reasons. Essentially they want to be around white people but they are too lib to say so. Their backs weren’t up against a wall, they just wanted a better version of the fake paradise they came from.

    This is different. When people leave because they’re threatened with job loss, or have lost jobs, they tend to wise up.

    Maybe I’m too much of an optimist but that’s how I think. If truly millions of people are uprooted and move out of sheer survival, they’ll vote accordingly. (Think of the Mexicans in Texas who are now voting red.)

  266. @Reg Cæsar
    @Paperback Writer


    This is an intra-white disaster.

    State needs redemption.
     

    Colorado is the New Vermont.

    In the Carter years, I would notice Corvettes and other expensive vehicles in Manhattan sporting Vermont plates. Later, the same thing in Chicago, but with Iowa tags. One could assume the same thing was going on between California and Colorado.

    I called it the green plate ruse. Surely the insurance companies had more colorful, even aromatic, names for it.

    Though many of the owners actually did decamp for those states once they had saved enough to live on the lower wages.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    I haven’t read this carefully because of work load but see this:

    https://vdare.com/articles/the-legal-foundations-of-the-american-gulag-are-being-laid-we-appeal-vdare-vs-colorado-springs-to-u-s-supreme-court

    He refers to RINO mayor of Col Springs – I’d love to see an analysis of RINOism leading to wokeism. Strikes me there’s as big a relationship between RINOs and woke as between out and out left Democrats and woke.

  267. @JimDandy
    "Why Do Fetishists in Frocks Have Even a Fighting Chance of Cancelling the World's Most Popular Entertainers?"

    I'd like an answer, please. Or at least a theory.

    Replies: @JimB, @aNewBanner, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad, @Anon, @Cato

    Christianity: The meek shall inherit the earth; when slapped upside the face, turn the cheek. We expect to be judged by the way in which we treat the lowliest and the most despised, and so we go out of our way to treat the lowly and despised with compassion.

    The thought of transies causes most of us to shudder in revulsion — they are the lepers now that lepers no longer exist. So we elevate them into the status of protected and nurtured objects.

    That is half the story. The other half (for M2F transies) has to do with a personality that wishes to be an alluring female but is full of testosterone rage. A personality always unhappy with itself that makes a lot of noise; a personality that makes demands. And those demands achieve compliance because of Christianity.

  268. @James J O'Meara
    @Buzz Mohawk

    "Well, this Deist believes each of us is a mind, a conscious piece of God, if you will, but he does not deny the existence of sex. Sex was created by God."

    The rise of transsexualism may be related to Christianity. Now, hear me out.

    Christianity was originally an apocalyptic cult (one of several in 1st century Palestine), which taught the equality of the sexes, forbade marriage and children, etc. All of which makes sense if you think sex is bad and the world is ending in a few weeks (cf. the Wokester who "doesn't want to bring children into this sick world"), but also has a theoretical basis: sex is the beginning of all the subsequent divisions: male/female, Jew/gentile, black/white, rich/poor, etc., which "are as one in Christ." As a later Protestant cult said "When Adam delved and Eve span/Who then was a gentleman?"

    Of course, the world didn't end, Christ didn't reappear (the Gnostics taught a "realized eschatology" which meant that the Second Coming had already occurred at baptism), so while some fell away, others tried to "reinterpret" the traditions so that one could continue to live in, rather than shun, the sinful world. Robert M. Price calls this the "embourgeois-fication of religion". Sex isn't shunned but more or less closely regulated, prophecy is replaced by dogma, a hierarchy is installed, etc. The process can be traced as the Epistles progress, from "I would that all men were like me" and talking in tongues to "Bishops must have only one wife" and women must be silent. Celibacy is honored but only in the clergy or monks and nuns. This is the "religion that made the West" as pro-Christian conservatives like to say.



    Thing of it is, since Christianity is still essentially apocalyptic, every now and then that breaks out; not just in cults: Protestantism itself was such an outbreak, overthrowing the hierarchy with the "priesthood of all believers." And remember "All men are created equal"? It's a medium if not short step from "In Christ there is no male or female, Jew or gentile" to Equity, which is why the Protestant churches got Woke first and are still the hardest Woke.

    So transsexualism is another apocalyptic cult: as you say, we are "really" just minds, equal shares in the Divine Mind, but sex, like the material world (one being the cause of the other, however you prefer the order) divides and deludes us. When you say above that "God created sex" you are endorsing the bourgeois accommodation: "hey, religion is fine in its place, but ya gotta get married and have kids, buddy."

    The transsexual rejects the idea that "anatomy is destiny" as conservatives like to intone: anatomy, like all other limitations, is a cruel prison, which we are learning to overcome. The Woke believe, like the primitive Christians, that all distinctions and divisions are not God's will but the Devil's trickery. Like the Logos, Science will save us, by breaking the power of genetics, matter, whatever.

    The relation to Transhumanism is obvious. And so of course the Wacky Brothers made an gnostic, apocalyptic film.

    This works for race, too; genetic engineering will produce what one author calls "brown bodies with white IQs" and then where is your "white nationalism"? "Oh, actually, it is the skin color we don't like." Well, don't worry: genetic engineering will make the whole Woke agenda practical. Want to impose democracy on Afghanistan? Reprogram them. Still racist? We'll take that out too.

    Gnosticism + genetics = Wokeism/Transsexualism/Transhumanism. As Iggy Pop said years ago, "Look out honey, 'cause I'm using technology!"

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @bomag

    Dunno.

    Most every religion had teachings for procreation (be fruitful and multiply).

    I wonder how the Shakers explained that away.

  269. @undisclosed
    @Matt Buckalew

    We all work in a similar fashion...including yourself as you developed this theory about Steve as theorizer.

    But I don't really see Steve doing much theorizing here.

    Until 5 years ago to be an out and out tranny you had to have some really big balls.

    Until 20 years ago to be an out and out gay you had to be quite brave.

    Is Caitlyn Jenner brave? He certainly is (though I'll call him Caitlyn because who cares).

    Deciding that you are a woman because of whatever your reasons and actually doing so publicly is incredibly brave -- until Bruce Jenner did it. These days it isn't beave anymore so plenty of SealTeam2 and 3 people are getting in on it too.

    To announce your discovery of Jewish ancestry in Germany in 1935 would have been brave, in 2021 -- not brave.

    Men who lead the way in ANY endeavor, good, bad or retarded are ALWAYS brave men. Ballsy men. Masculine men.

    Even further than that -- WOMEN who lead the way in any endeavor are the most masculine of women.

    Femininity does not lead.

    Masculinity leads or gets out of the way or stands IN the way. Femininity follows. Be it femininity amongst women or amongst men.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew

    I think the comparison is kind of specious- Bruce was on the cover of Vanity Fair within months of transitioning. How many Jews were being feted by the German press in 1935. It’s also kind of silly because who is to say special forces types are particularly brave in the moral sense rather than physical sense. Was Blanche from The Glass Menagerie brave or just overcome with narcissism. I’ll note that Jenner isn’t a particularly aggressive or charismatic person- he got pushed into a marriage but that Jenner lady and maybe the hen pecked husband routine was an act but Bruce Jenner tried acting and wasn’t very good at it. So if anything Bruce is more like the teenage girls who have come to characterize the abomination- both are struggling to assert an identity in the growing sense of anonymity and insignificance. Yea Bruce was America’s darling what fifty years ago. But let’s face it the pentathalon is cool but it’s a bit like going to the moon- only boomers really care.

  270. @Lurker
    @Matt Buckalew


    the classroom bully of his business school- who was at the time male
     
    And still is.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew

    Do you honestly think I’d dispute that. It would have made the entire comment incoherent to not state it as I did.

  271. @Intelligent Dasein
    @Alec Leamas (working from home)


    There are also lesbians (lots of overlap with radical feminists) who object to an essentialist MtF trans identity (i.e., trans women are real women)
     
    Your use of the word 'essentialist' here is a travesty. I mean, it is utterly, completely, and 100% the opposite of the word's actual meaning. You should have said a positivist trans identity.

    This is important in this day and age, since real essentialism is the antidote to all the trans insanity. An essentialist would hold that each individual's sexual nature is inherent in their soul (i.e. the substantial form of their body), and that this immaterial quality is prior to all biological distinctions and is indeed itself what makes the biological distinctions, and that any apparent contradictions to this scheme are the result of defects on the material side, not of something qualitatively different in essence.

    Thus, even in the most extreme cases (e.g. ambiguous genitalia, missing genitalia, chromosomal abnormalities, etc.), each individual person is essentially male or female, they are exactly one of these, and there is no third possibility.

    The essentialist's claim of sexual realism is much stronger than the so-called "biological" realism one meets with around here. Biology, being at its best the classification of the sensible aspects of living things, is powerless to supply a corrective when those aspects are themselves ambiguous. For all biology can say, an XXY person really is a third sex. Essentialism would say that this person is essentially a male or a female with a material defect in ploidy.

    Of course, I have also argued elsewhere that race is an essential property, that it belongs to the immaterial side of life, and that this claim is much stronger than the silly "biological" race-realism of HBD. That point was not well understood, but this one should be quite a bit more obvious.

    Replies: @Eugene Norman, @Johnny Rico

    Thank you.

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