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Update: Here’s my new Taki’s Magazine column on why the efficacy of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine wasn’t announced before the election.

From StatNews:

Covid-19 vaccine from Pfizer and BioNTech is strongly effective, early data from large trial indicate
By MATTHEW HERPER @matthewherper NOVEMBER 9, 2020

… The first analysis was to occur after 32 volunteers — both those who received the vaccine and those on placebo — had contracted Covid-19. If fewer than six volunteers in the group who received the vaccine had developed Covid-19, the companies would make an announcement that the vaccine appeared to be effective. The study would continue until at least 164 cases of Covid-19 — individuals with at least one symptom and a positive test result — had been reported. …

That study design, as well as those of other drug makers, came under fire from experts who worried that, even if it was statistically valid, these interim analyses would not provide enough data when a vaccine could be given to billions of people.

In their announcement of the results, Pfizer and BioNTech revealed a surprise. The companies said they had decided not to conduct the 32-case analysis “after a discussion with the FDA.” Instead, they planned to conduct the analysis after 62 cases. But by the time the plan had been formalized, there had been 94 cases of Covid-19 in the study. It’s not known how many were in the vaccine arm, but it would have to be nine or fewer.

Gruber said that Pfizer and BioNTech had decided in late October that they wanted to drop the 32-case interim analysis. At that time, the companies decided to stop having their lab confirm cases of Covid-19 in the study, instead leaving samples in storage. The FDA was aware of this decision. Discussions between the agency and the companies concluded, and testing began this past Wednesday.

Interesting choice of data to resume testing of cases. Was there anything in particular scheduled for last Tuesday? It seems like last Tuesday was a big day, but I can’t remember why. I’m sure, though, it was in all the papers at the time.

When the samples were tested, there were 94 cases of Covid in the trial. The DSMB met on Sunday.

So the original plan was to make a public announcement after 32 cases, but instead they stopped doing simple lab tests until the day after Election Day, at which point they had 94 cases, almost triple what the protocol had said they needed for making a public announcement.

This means that the statistical strength of the result is likely far stronger than was initially expected. It also means that if Pfizer had held to the original plan, the data would likely have been available in October, as its CEO, Albert Bourla, had initially predicted.

So, I’m not crazy, StatNews sees it too.

Basically, this says that Pfizer had the physical evidence in their labs in October that their vaccine had met the hurdle of success, but chose, with the agreement of the FDA, not to physically process the samples until the day after Election Day.

Am I nuts to read this as saying that Pfizer and the FDA conspired to alter the agreed-upon plan, which would have required a public announcement of the vaccine’s success before the election, and instead Pfizer refused to even process the crucial samples during the last days before the election to delay having to make a public announcement until after the election? And that this ploy may well have cost Trump the election?

For a notorious authoritarian, Trump sure gets pushed around and stabbed in the back even by his own hirelings a lot.

 
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  1. anon[988] • Disclaimer says:

    It also means that if Pfizer had held to the original plan, the data would likely have been available in October, as its CEO, Albert Bourla, had initially predicted.

    1. Politics.

    2. Democrats ranting about vaccines not being safe, meaning that Pfizer needed ironclad evidence it worked or they’d lose money. Cuomo and Harris, for example, told people not to trust any vaccine if Trump were involved.

    That study design, as well as those of other drug makers, came under fire from experts who worried that, even if it was statistically valid, these interim analyses would not provide enough data when a vaccine could be given to billions of people. In their announcement of the results, … The companies said they had decided not to conduct the 32-case analysis “after a discussion with the FDA.” Instead, they planned to conduct the analysis after 62 cases.

  2. Thank you Steve.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  3. Anonymous[137] • Disclaimer says:

    Someone else noticed.

  4. “Et Tu, FDA?”

    • Agree: HammerJack, tyrone
    • Thanks: ThreeCranes
    • Replies: @tyrone
    , @Hypnotoad666
  5. My coincidence radar is picking up a signal here.

    Yep, (((Albert Bourla))), CEO of Pfizer.

    Another purely random coincidence detected.

  6. We can look back and do a fairly good estimate of the number of lives lost during the delay once the initial production batch sizes and dosage availability numbers are known.

    • Replies: @Erik L
  7. Anonymous[137] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8852159/The-video-world-longed-Covid-vaccines-rolling-production-line.html

    Covid vaccines roll off the Pfizer production line in thousands …

    18 October 2020

    The drug is being stockpiled if the contents prove safe and are effective

    … Drug giant Pfizer has already manufactured ‘several hundred thousand doses’ of the jab at its plant in Puurs, Belgium, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

    Is it usual to start stockpiling so much earlier than the regulatory hurdles have been officially met?

  8. The sudden news of the vaccine post Trump defeat strongly reminds me of the end of 1984 where the news reports Oceania has suddenly won a stunning victory over her enemies and Winston finally decides he Loves Big Brother. Here in the UK the news also includes ‘Spreading anti-Vaxx myths should be made a criminal offence’ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/10/spreading-anti-vaxx-myths-should-made-criminal-offence/ – “Royal Society and British Academy say public should be ‘inoculated’ against misinformation”.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Desiderius
  9. Not exactly OT:

    From the home page of the StatNews site Mr. Sailer linked to.

    Health experts want to prioritize people of color for a Covid-19 vaccine. But how should it be done?

    “Having a racial preference for a Covid-19 vaccine is not only ethically permissible, but I think it’s an ethical imperative,” said Lawrence Gostin, a professor of global health law at Georgetown University. “The reason is both because of historic structural racism that’s resulted in grossly unequal health outcomes for all kinds of diseases, and because Covid-19 has so disproportionately impacted the lives of people of color.”


    https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/09/health-experts-want-to-prioritize-people-of-color-for-covid19-vaccine-but-how-should-it-be-done/

  10. Convenient that this vaccine is introduced the first business day after Biden is declared the President.

    With no “vaccine”, 80% of the population has no symptoms from COVID-19, either due to stronger immune systems or prior exposure to other coronaviruses. The Pfizer vaccine can increase the non-symptom result to 90%, likely for people who would otherwise get sick, but recover comfortably from a bad episode of the flu. The Pfizer vaccine may not protect over 70’s or the immunocompromised. The susceptible population remains threatened by the disease so what is really gained? The vaccine may improve herd immunity, but herd immunity has already been achieved in populations that have had their initial epidemic run of the disease.

    COVID-19 is a nasty, highly contagious respiratory virus, but in the end not out of line with aggressive flus of the last 50 years. The US and UK have not outperformed Sweden that never implemented a lockdown and self immolation of its economy. What ever happened to China? Do you really think a country the size of China ended the disease? No, China experienced an epidemic outbreak consistent with other serious respiratory diseases, but once the disease runs its course, it largely will have minimal impact on the population.

    Life goes on.

    On the plus side, the Deep State and NWO have undermined the Western concept of freedom and affluence. Technological dictatorship along the lines of the Chinese system may be inevitable. The Trump Curveball, nothing more than an erratic minor hiccup to the the globalist agenda, has been defeated which is the real purpose of the COVID hysteria.

    I say this as someone who was a head of the curve on the virus in February and completely overreacted buying a high end gas mask, etc., but by Memorial Day, I realized the epidemic was largely over.

    • Replies: @Travis
    , @utu
    , @JR Ewing
    , @Jack D
  11. Anonymous[207] • Disclaimer says:

    Good stuff


    • Thanks: TWS
  12. Look at the bright side, Steve.

    If the vaccine’s success had been announced before election day, it would forever be tainted with the suspicion that it was rushed out for Trump’s benefit. Only the desperate or foolhardy would use such a dangerous product (apart from anything else, it would probably turn its users’ skin orange).

    But since it has now been announced in the post-Trump era, we can all rest assured that the vaccine is on the up-and-up, and there is no malarkey about its efficacy and safety.

    Life in America will indeed be good under your benevolent new leader (and you didn’t even need to wait until January 20 for the news).

    • Agree: Michelle
    • LOL: vhrm
  13. Anon[417] • Disclaimer says:

    Well, Pfizer’s top donations when to Biden and the DNC.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/pfizer-inc/summary?id=D000000138

    • Replies: @Redman
  14. https://www.newsweek.com/pfizer-avoided-rd-funding-trumps-operation-warp-speed-because-bureaucracy-politics-1546110

    Pfizer Avoided R&D Funding From Trump’s Operation Warp Speed Because of Bureaucracy, Politics

    … “When you get money from someone that always comes with strings. They want to see how we are going to progress, what type of moves you are going to do. They want reports,” he finished. “And also, I wanted to keep Pfizer out of politics, by the way.”

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2020/11/09/trump-allies-are-rushing-to-falsely-claim-government-credit-for-pfizer-vaccine-success/?sh=4f885b233e49

    Trump allies have been quick to falsely give credit to Operation Warp Speed — the Trump administration’s attempt to deliver a vaccine as fast as possible — for its role in supporting Pfizer to develop and distribute its Covid-19 vaccine, despite the company receiving no support whatsoever from the U.S. government beyond an agreement to buy an initial 100 million doses.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    , @peterike
    , @Brutusale
  15. JimDandy says:

    Yeah, they knew the media would paint the vaccine as snake oil if they made their announcement before the election, and would sing its praises if they announced it after the election.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Redman
  16. @Anonymous

    I’m too lazy to look it up, but think stockpiling of many millions of doses for other not yet licensed vaccines directed against Sars-Cov-2 has been financed by the Gates Foundation (and, for all I know, the Feds). A Pfizer spokesperson has huffed, sniffed and snorted that his company developed its product without help from Operation Warp Speed.
    Evidence for efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine strongly suggests IMHO that if other vaccines induce the same sort of antibodies, they will also be effective. One could imagine that the side effect profiles would be different. Vaccines which do not require extremely low temperatures for storage would be swell. The thought of an mrna vaccine personally gives me the heebie-jeebies, but would still take it if available.

  17. Travis says:
    @Clifford Brown

    already 90% of healthy people under the age of 60 will have few, if any, symptoms from CV. If this vaccine was only tested with healthy people under the age of 65 it may have no benefit for the elderly and the obese diabetics. Typically the drug firms will not test new vaccines with healthy subjects. “Since many elderly people have underlying medical conditions, this excludes them from studies, as they also do not respond to vaccines as well,” explained Goepfert. Drug companies push to study only the healthiest people, since it may make getting FDA approval more expedient. Older individuals experience more side effects from vaccines in comparison to younger, healthier individuals. These complications and side effects can sometimes slow the FDA approval process, so they exclude the elderly from their studies. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/older-adults-are-more-at-risk-for-covid-19-so-why-dont-vaccine-trials-include-them

    Recent studies indicate that older people were excluded from most of the vaccine testing.
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2771091
    Our findings indicate that older adults are likely to be excluded from more than 50% of COVID-19 clinical trials and 100% of vaccine trials. Such exclusion will limit the ability to evaluate the efficacy, dosage, and adverse effects of the intended treatments.

    People ages 65-plus account for 16% of the U.S. population over 80% of the COVID deaths. given the devastating and disproportionate toll the virus has had on older adults, around 40 percent of clinical trial participants should represent this group. https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2020/range-of-subjects-in-vaccine-trials.html

  18. utu says:

    We would like to know what are the chances for transverse myelitis and Guillain-Barre syndrome.

    • Replies: @Gordo
  19. Pfizer cost me an extra night in Kalamazoo. I was returning a rental car to the airport and passed right by one of their facilities. It had a big garden where they presumably grew medicinal plants. Deer did not find these tasty, so they were free to roam the grounds.

    And cross the highway. And be hit by cars. And, as they lay dying in the road, kick out the radiators of the cars following. Like mine.

    Pfizer clearly cared more for the entertainment value of the deer to their staff in the building than for the safety of the drivers, passengers, and wildlife outside. Not the best of citizens, are they?

  20. I asked in the previous post but it bears repeating.

    If Pfizer withheld information that could affect its share price, doesn’t that open it up to a class action suit by shareholders?

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  21. The vaccine was created by a billionaire Turkish German married couple of immunology research scientists who may have been pissed off by the Muslim travel ban, illegal immigrant children being stuck in cages etc. Trump has already used up his airtime to make dubious complaints about voter fraud (magic fraud which affected the votes for president but not for the House and Senate on the same ballot) so the real conspiracy will go unaddressed.

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-the-married-couple-behind-the-successful-pfizer-covid-vaccine-12128862,

    • Troll: TWS
  22. @PiltdownMan

    Reminds me of the financial bailouts in 2008-09. The worse you have behaved, the greater your reward. Sounds legit, right?

  23. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:

    You got this exactly right, Steve. There is a clear evidence of collusion between FDA and Pfizer. The only interesting thing to know is which way it actually went: Was it FDA telling Pfizer to please stop doing testing or was it Pfizer not wanting to get enmeshed in the politics with FDA gladfully agreeing?

    • Replies: @Travis
  24. @Reg Cæsar

    The Pfizer people in New York have always been notorious. I could tell you stories..

  25. @NJ Transit Commuter

    They’ll be much too happy raking in the bucks, and the MSM would paint any such efforts as trying to (further) profiteer off the bodies of sick and dead people. Everything’s political.

    More to the point, such an action would compromise the interests of the ‘oligarchs’ in this country. End of story.

  26. Travis says:
    @Richard of Melbourne

    good point. If Trump promoted the vaccine, Fauci and the media would have undermined Trump and highlighted the risks of the vaccine and stated it was unproven to work and may cause significant side effects. Kamala had previously stated she would not trust any vaccine developed while Trump was President.

    • Replies: @415 reasons
  27. Anonymous[358] • Disclaimer says:

    The left, unlike the right, does not believe in the right of private companies to do as they please, and will punish any company that does anything that harms the Democrat party. The people running Pfizer, regardless of their personal politics, would have been much more reluctant to antagonize the left than the right. (It’s similar to the way comedians casually mock Christianity but are very careful not to insult Muslims.)

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Guy De Champlagne
  28. Gordo says:
    @utu

    We would like to know what are the chances for transverse myelitis and Guillain-Barre syndrome.

    Don’t be in the first few million to get it is my advice on all vaccines.

    • Replies: @Redman
    , @SunBakedSuburb
  29. BenKenobi says:

    Yeah, I’m gonna pass on this jab.

    As an evil Dogar Blormphf supporter, I feel it is my duty to abstain from this kiss of life and donate my dose to a more deserving PoC.

    Do it to Julia!

  30. Charlotte says:

    I’ve read that Trump, in person, likes people to like him. He needed a ruthless and effective chief to ensure that deviation from the administration agenda was not allowed. Trump never found the right guy.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  31. Kronos says:

    For a notorious authoritarian, Trump sure gets pushed around and stabbed in the back even by his own hirelings a lot.

    I’m sure plenty of Democrats (and Republicans) within the bureaucracy actively tried turning COVID-19 into Trump’s “Katrina.”

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Replies: @Coemgen
  32. “Am I nuts”

    yes. the Biden-Harris Truth Commission will be along shortly to re-educate you, citizen. you will learn to stop noticing, whether they have to kill every last neuron in your brain or not.

  33. Anonymous[521] • Disclaimer says:

    Apparently, this vaccine was developed by the son of a Turkish immigrant to Germany.

    If so, fair play to him and and the fame and glory which will surely come to him.

    No doubt every Turk in the world will, rightly, be immensely proud of him and of Turkey.

  34. @PiltdownMan

    “Having a racial preference for a Covid-19 vaccine is not only ethically permissible, but I think it’s an ethical imperative,” said Lawrence Gostin, a professor of global health law at Georgetown University.”

    i thought race didn’t exist, Professor (Gostin)?

    • LOL: Unladen Swallow
  35. notsaying says:
    @PiltdownMan

    This guy is creating problems with his talk of “historic structural racism” for no good reason. People don’t want to get into that. People want a fair system that is based on exposure risks and risks due to medical conditions, living conditions and age, etc.

    I wonder if people of color had much worse outcomes in other First World countries like France and Sweden or did that just happen in the US?

    • Replies: @Bert
    , @Chrisnonymous
  36. Mr. Anon says:

    Why Did Pfizer and FDA Agree to Not Release the News of the Vaccine’s Success in October as the Original Protocol Would Have Required?

    That’s a really hard question. I guess we’ll never know the answer.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/pfizer-inc/summary?id=D000000138

    https://cepr.net/biden-and-buttigieg-see-pharma-money-as-the-cure-for-campaign-woes/

    https://www.drugdiscoverytrends.com/guess-who-the-pharma-industry-is-supporting-for-president/

    • LOL: Kylie
  37. Mr. Anon says:
    @Simon in London

    The sudden news of the vaccine post Trump defeat strongly reminds me of the end of 1984 where the news reports Oceania has suddenly won a stunning victory over her enemies and Winston finally decides he Loves Big Brother.

    You know what Winston Smith’s job was…………………….Fact Checker.

  38. Anonymous[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    One can almost hear the collective mass cacophony of every Greek and Armenian in the world simultaneously spitting feathers.

  39. Anonymous[162] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve Sailer, a vaccine being 90% effective, even in phase 3 trials doesn’t mean much because the assessment of effectiveness in humans is done in petri dish cultures of cultured human T-cells. The actual “in vivo” testing on live humans is actually done at the end of the phase 3 trials. All “in vivo” testing up to phase 3 is done on rodents and primates, and have only marginal relevancy for human beings, The Oxford vaccine was tested in Brazil – can’t test on blond English children and risk killing them, so test on the Brownie’s of Brazil, white privilege at work -and it already killed 3 people. Here is newsflash: creating effective and safe vaccines for rapidly mutating airborn viruses is hard. Really, really hard. This is why we don’t even bother creating vaccines for the common influenza viruses that kill a million people every year, the fuck is the point? They rapidly mutate, and the more you immunize people that weaker you make the immune systems of the population in general. Of course, this particular strain of coronavirus is different, because it is much, much more contagious than the flu and has even even higher moratlity rate than most influenza viruses. So COVID could potentailly kill 400 million people Worldwide if left completely unchecked, which is bordering on extinctiion level event for civillization and almost for the Human species. So we do need to a create a vaccine for this particular virus, but it is really, really difficult. The ones that are actually closer to an effective and safe vaccine are actually the Russians, despite their poor resources.

    And even if we do get a safe and effective vaccine, we would need to wait 10 years or more to see the chronic effect of the drug. Drugs that are developed hastily and do not undergo a long period of observation in toxicological studies often end up showing long-term disastrous toxicity. Just look at the thalidomide catastrophe.

    I know that this is not something that anyone wants to hear, but the coronavirus menace, it’s waves, because of it’s mutations and adaptations, will only be finally defeated around 2030. Most estimates point that in 2024-27, we will still be battling new waves of new strains of the same virus. This was not only a lost year, but this will be a lost decade. People are in denial that their lives as they know it are over.

  40. Mr. Anon says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Health experts want to prioritize people of color for a Covid-19 vaccine. But how should it be done?

    The Man is trying to sterilize the Brothers with his racist Covid vaccine – it’s like intravenous Church’s Chicken.

    • LOL: Lockean Proviso
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  41. Maciano says:

    I’ve got to be honest, Steve. Would you have left this one to chance if you had been President? Everyone knew a vaccine was the way out. It’s all I ever heard since the first lockdown: “Only a vaccine can bring us back to normal”

    I would have given all pharma CEOs a good incentive, both punitive and beneficial, to move positive vaccine news to october and november. A cryptic tweet might have been enough. Otherwise, Trump could have put some of his allies on this — Giuliani, Gingrich, Fox.

    Trump apparently didn’t think about it.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  42. Coemgen says:
    @Kronos

    A major difference between “Katrina” and COVID-19:

    1. the odds that “Katrina” was an act-of-God: pretty close to 100%
    2. the odds the COVID-19 was an act-of-God: not even close to 100%

    The timing of the appearance of COVID-19 is a little too coincidental to the timing of the unraveling of the impeachment to _not_ arouse suspicions that the pandemic is an act of bio-terrorism/asymmetrical warfare.

    Of course, there’s also that the CIA and CNN et al., somehow were unaware of the pandemic raging in China in time to warn us to close international borders to help prevent its spread …

    • Agree: Kronos
    • Replies: @Wilkey
  43. @Maciano

    Right. Trump is a decent counterpuncher, but he’s never been cynical enough about how low his foes would go against him. He doesn’t have the attention span to obsess enough over what his enemies would conspire to do against him.

  44. @Anonymous

    This is why we don’t even bother creating vaccines for the common influenza viruses that kill a million people every year, the fuck is the point?

    What?

    So COVID could potentailly kill 400 million people Worldwide if left completely unchecked, which is bordering on extinctiion level event for civillization and almost for the Human species.

    Huh?

    • Agree: HammerJack
  45. @Anonymous

    The Trump administration gave Pfizer nearly $2 Billion in July for this very purpose, so that they would be ready for large-scale implementation should the vaccine prove effective. Somehow the MSM has forgotten this part.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/22/health/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-government-contract/index.html

    • Agree: Polynikes, HammerJack
    • Replies: @Polynikes
  46. Bert says:
    @notsaying

    It would happen anywhere POC lead less disciplined lives in regard to BMI, vegetable consumption, exercise, stress-reduction through a non-confrontational demeanor and farther-out time orientation.

  47. Bert says:
    @Steve Sailer

    He’s never been cynical enough because he never had to experience residing within an area controlled by an HOA.

  48. @Anonymous

    Did he develop the vaccine himself or was it developed by people who work at the firm he owns? And let’s not forget his wife, who at the very least is a co-equal partner, as the major media keep reminding us.

  49. utu says:
    @Clifford Brown

    “The US and UK have not outperformed Sweden that never implemented a lockdown and self immolation of its economy.”

    (1) Swedish economy contacted by 8% while Germany contracted by 10% and Italy by 12% and France by 14%.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53664354

    The differences are significantly but not huge because Sweden also had many countermeasures and now in the Fall is getting even stricter countermeasures because the herd immunity did not materialize after 9 months of allegedly unconstrained spread of virus in Sweden.

    (2) Sweden has 11 times lower population density than UK. Sweden has lowest apartment occupancy in Europe and the largest number of second homes. Sweden has much larger natural social distance than other countries. While deaths per capita in UK and Sweden are comparable without the lockdown UK could have an order of magnitude higher death rate, so instead of 49k with lockdown 490k w/o lockdown would have died.

    (3) If Sweden had a lockdown its deaths per capita would be similar to Norway which is a country of similar population density and human development index. This would translate into saving 5,500 lives. Could Sweden afford contracting its economy by 10% instead of 8% to save 5,500 lives?

  50. For a notorious authoritarian, Trump sure gets pushed around and stabbed in the back even by his own hirelings a lot.

    Yep. I have been writing this for a couple of years at least. I think it’s a lack of confidence in his own ideas on policy that had him thinking he’d have to hire people that are experienced in this new “business” of his to help him. Back in the real estate business, sure, you’d hire the best architect, best structural engineer, etc., but to administer the Feral Gov’t the way the people wanted him to, you don’t hire the best of the Washington Beltway swamp creatures.

    BTW, I shouldn’t have asked you yesterday where you stand on this PanicFest being used by the ctrl-left. When I think back, I think you’d already written a few posts on that. This is another one. Thanks.

  51. Altai says:

    Not that it should surprise given how the virus was discussed in January and February when Trump was busy shutting down travel from China but:

  52. @Steve Sailer

    “counterpuncher”? Are youse guys misspelling “Marciano”? Didn’t De Niro blimp out to a level unsafe with Corona acquisition for that Rocky role in “Raging Bull”? Oops – that was Jake LaMotta. Rocky Marciano (along with Chuck “The Bayonne Bleeder” Wepner) was one of the inspirations for the “Rocky Balboa” character. Stallone was, and is, stout, as was Cortez, though it was Balboa who “star’d at the Pacific,” Keats “most celebrated mistake” notwithstanding.

    [MORE]

    And speaking of “Chapman’s Homer,” “the Red Sox” and “Yanks,” John Shade was not “slain” playing for the Detroit Waxwings as claimed in “Pale Umpire.” Nor was Guillain Barre one the Detroit Redwings’ star forwards.

    Sorry about that; “upper middle class Twit of the Year” material – time for noddy-blinkers.
    Seriously – thought that DJT had some authority for emergency release of a vaccine (thus relieving the affected company of some civil and criminal liability) – and I did a lot of deranged yelling within earshot of some relatives that he should exercise that power, but never confirmed that he actually has it.

  53. @Mr. Anon

    Yup, population control via sterilization vax is likely. Some variants may also cause terminal cancer in 1 to 3 years.

    The vax will also be easily traceable and dateable by a simple test. This will be tied into all your Covidcoin accounts. You won’t be able to buy a cup of coffee without an up to date jab.

  54. @Anonymous

    I believe you are right and it’s hard to argue a rosey scenario for a vaccine as you say. But one thing I would like to ask is how you come up with the death toll you state. Four hundred milliion? It doesn’t seem to be that lethal and the virus had a pretty good run unchecked in countries like Italy.
    It seems to be only a bit more lethal than the flu and hardly registered at all in the young.
    So can you defend the plague like numbers of deaths?

    • Replies: @jimbo
  55. @anon

    3) Public opinion. If the timing of the announcement was seen as giving a boost to Trump there would have been a huge backlash likely damaging the willingness to take the shots, whereas any backlash on the other side to a suspension is likely to be more temperate.

    [MORE]

    “The end justifies the means.”…but on a practical level the means may not remain quarantined from spoiling the end.

  56. Wilkey says:
    @NotAnonymous

    Pfizer actually received a government guarantee that it would receive about $2 billion if it produced a vaccine by the end of the year, regardless of whether any other company produced a vaccine.

    So while it did not receive any government money (yet), it had a powerful incentive to throw money into research and come up with a vaccine by years end. And it did, apparently – but held off until after the election to announce it.

    Note to future “dictators” like Trump: if you ever sign a contract with a company like this, make sure the deadline is well before the election.

    And note to Republicans: here’s reason #574,673,612-b not to trust big business or keep giving them tax breaks. And you may want to consider implementing price controls on pharmaceuticals.

    • Replies: @ic1000
  57. @Richard of Melbourne

    “Only the desperate or foolhardy would use such a dangerous product (apart from anything else, it would probably turn its users’ skin orange).”

    Now it will turn your leg hairs blonde in the sun and cause you to want to sniff young girls.

  58. ic1000 says:
    @Anonymous

    Anonymous [162] sounds authoritative, but I know some of his assertions to be incorrect. I am not going to fact-check the rest.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  59. Rosie says:
    @Anonymous

    The left, unlike the right, does not believe in the right of private companies to do as they please, and will punish any company that does anything that harms the Democrat party. The people running Pfizer, regardless of their personal politics, would have been much more reluctant to antagonize the left than the right. (It’s similar to the way comedians casually mock Christianity but are very careful not to insult Muslims.)

    This! All else equal, the side that plays hardball wins. You would never see a Republican sending out threatening tweets like AOC, but again, that’s why media power is irresistible. If a Republican did that, the media would see to it that such person went to jail. Until that issue is resolved, nothing will change.

    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
  60. @PiltdownMan

    That sounds better than, “Let’s test this on the darkies first, just to be sure it’s safe.”

    • LOL: ThreeCranes
  61. Wilkey says:
    @Coemgen

    Of course, there’s also that the CIA and CNN et al., somehow were unaware of the pandemic raging in China in time to warn us to close international borders to help prevent its spread.

    I’ve asked this question several times already. Where TF were the Western intelligence agencies to warn us about a massive epidemic spreading in China? Why did it take us so long to find out or do anything about it? For that matter, where were all our new, loyal new Chinese-American citizens to warn us about what they were hearing from back home?

    How many tens of billions of dollars do the US and our allies spend on espionage each year? How many of our own privacy rights are sacrificed for that cause, yet they can’t bother to notice a new disease spreading rapidly in China?

  62. I love that Trump is out there, pushing the case for the working working class. But good gosh, he continues to be rolled by the deep state. Ballot harvesting corrupts the election. The Mueller investigation that ran past the mid term elections. Finally a virus pandemic that the medical deep state has been able to prolong an effective response to, until after election day.

    • Replies: @northeast
  63. Jake says:
    @anon

    Yes. For two reasons that became one. Phizer fudged. Phizer played dirty politics, because the Deep State wanted that outcome. Phizer is at best a lying whore.

    For a notorious authoritarian, Trump sure gets pushed around and stabbed in the back even by his own hirelings a lot.

    Marxist/Alinsky Satan-approved Rule #1: Invert the truth all the time, focusing on accusing those you hate and wish to destroy of being and doing what you are and do.

  64. tyrone says:
    @Roderick Spode

    At least old Julius didn’t get stabbed for four years straight.

  65. Jake says:
    @Wilkey

    The Western Intelligence agencies are all controlled by the Deep State. They are as prone to lying and acting to harm the citizens of Western notions as the KGB was prone to lying and acting to harm citizens of the USSR.

    • Agree: Muggles
  66. In War, Force and Fraud are the two Cardinal Virtues

    Thomas Hobbes

  67. Zippy says:

    Steve, one of Trump’s big ideas is that he has a “Deep State” thwarting him at every turn. I think “Deep State” is a bit grandiose of a term, but it’s clear that there are a lot of foot-dragging petty bureaucrats who will act to undermine a Republican President, particularly one as unorthodox as Trump.

    So, what is the answer? Knowing you will fight internal opposition at every turn? Fill every slot you can with political appointees. Get Mitch to spend maybe a tenth of the effort on your administration’s next-level-down appointments as it spends on judges. Get good people, with subject matter expertise, who are competent and loyal.

    What did he do? His administration was chronically understaffed. In business, where the objective is to reign in administrative costs, this might be a good idea. But in government, where the objective is to control bureaucrats, it’s the opposite of a good idea. And the people he got were consistent mediocrities.

    And the people he got were sycophants, flatterers, hangers-on, and mediocrities. Ben Carson was, by all accounts, a gifted pediatric neurosurgeon. That’s a field where a laconic disposition and steady hand are well-rewarded. But did he know a thing about housing policy? Wilber Ross? The mediocrity he just fired at Defense? And don’t get me started on Jared, his de facto Chief of Staff. Trump has no discernment about personnel; he hired on an impulsive and slapdash way. And nobody worth his salt wanted to work for the guy.

    Trump has always surrounded himself with low-rent people. Michael Cohen? The one guy who tried to actually implement his agenda he publicly humiliated, because Trump idiotically created a situation in which a special counsel pretty much had to be appointed.

    The lack of good people led to serious failures. Infrastructure! “It’s what I do,” he said. So where is your big plan? OK, Trump wasn’t ready to win, so he didn’t have a plan ready in early 2017. Why not, in. year two, introduce a plan to fix roads and bridges, get 5G wireless to rural America, and build a transcontinental hyperloop? DARE the dems to vote it down. If they don’t vote for it, run against them on that. If they do, so much the better, run on that accomplishment.

    Trump could have come up with a broadly popular and successful. But that would have required actual wor.

    You yourself pointed out that Trump is a big-picture sales guy. Reagan was a big-picture guy too, but Reagan actually succeeded in some of his policy objectives. Because Reagan didn’t needlessly humiliate his subordinates; he did hire good people. He let his Chief of Staff actually manage the White House (and Reagan’s biggest failure occurred when his Chief of Staff failed). But Trump couldn’t do that, because he has to be the bride at the wedding all the time, and also because Jared.

    That said, if not for the Covid he probably would have won. Despite a campaign based on nepotism. You now who was his head of fund-raising. Don Jr.’s girlfriend.

    That says it all. Trump’s vanity, poor personnel judgment, laziness and incompetence cost him the election.

  68. Jake says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Trump, to sum it up, is not devious enough to see them for what they are, nor is he mean enough to get them as they deserve. They are power-worshipping, amoral evil to the core.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
  69. @Wilkey

    For that matter, where were all our new, loyal new Chinese-American citizens to warn us about what they were hearing from back home?

    What do you mean, where were they? They were busy, as is usual that time of the year, traveling during Spring Festival, back and forth between here and China.

  70. Thoughts says:
    @Anonymous

    Wow, he invented the flu vaccine

    The fact that it only took a few months, means…it is the flu…

  71. ic1000 says:
    @PiltdownMan

    Matthew Herper is the author of the article in the OP. Before leaving to found StatNews, he was Forbes‘ top pharma/biotech reporter. Within the industry, he is highly regarded, and StatNews probably has the best reputation of the clinical chemistry/molecular diagnostics trade press.

    The StatNews article that PiltdownMan linked (Health experts want to prioritize people of color for a Covid-19 vaccine. But how should it be done?) contains pretty good reporting. Georgetown prof Lawrence Gostin gets his own words in front of the reader, who can admire him for his wokeness, political correctness, or anti-Gentilism (YMMV).

    I concur with the vile Professor Gostin’s point that some authority will have to devise an allocation scheme for an effective vaccine in short supply. Black people are 2x to 3x more vulnerable to Covid-19 than whites, agree the CDC and these two woke sources.

    Per Sailer’s heuristic, there is some evidence that black vulnerability is about-half Nature and about-half Nurture. Or perhaps (stopped-clock style) it is indeed entirely the fault of white devilry.

    In either case, it would be reasonable for a trustworthy decision maker* to consider racial ethnic population group differentials along with all the other relevant factors (e.g protecting health-care workers and those at risk for being unhealthy or elderly).

    * hypothetical

  72. jsm says:
    @Richard of Melbourne

    If the vaccine’s success had been announced before election day, it would forever be tainted with the suspicion that it was rushed out for Trump’s benefit. Only the desperate or foolhardy would use such a dangerous product (apart from anything else, it would probably turn its users’ skin orange).

    And, so…? Only the leftists with Trump derangement syndrome would be the ones who would refuse it. So, if they get sick and die of COVID, I’m supposed to go all sackcloth-and-ashes? After what they’d said and done to me and mine? The Deplorables who want the vaccine will take it, and the rest will take their chances.

  73. ic1000 says:
    @Wilkey

    > Pfizer actually received a government guarantee that it would receive about $2 billion if it produced a vaccine by the end of the year, regardless of whether any other company produced a vaccine.

    Yes, but that $1.95 billion commitment came from BARDA, not Operation Warp Speed.

    I love this sentence from the Forbes article:

    Trump allies have been quick to falsely give credit to Operation Warp Speed — the Trump administration’s attempt to deliver a vaccine as fast as possible — for its role in supporting Pfizer to develop and distribute its Covid-19 vaccine, despite the company receiving no support whatsoever from the U.S. government beyond an agreement to buy an initial 100 million doses.

    Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?

    • LOL: reactionry
  74. JR Ewing says:
    @Clifford Brown

    Same.

    My wife still chides me for cutting short our spring break vacation and buying masks in March. As if my skepticism now is “fake” because I took the risk seriously when there were still a lot of unknowns.

    I took it seriously at first, but by late April deaths had started to peak in places well short of the predictions and hospitals were not overflowing and I came to the conclusion that it wasn’t gong to be as bad as was feared. Then I slowly realized that the government and a large majority of citizens weren’t going to back down on the panic and admit it wasn’t necessary and the longer it went on, the more skeptical I got.

    I received a lot of heat over past 6 months for saying that “it’s all about the election”, yet Biden is declared the winner and an announcement of a vaccine comes the very next day?

    Color me vindicated.

  75. Polynikes says:
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    Correct. Part of that huge spending spree was ordering vaccines on spec knowing some companies would produce large quantities of useless vaccines, but when we got one that worked it would be widely available.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  76. @utu

    5500 lives sounds like a lot. Though we should remember most would be people who are going to die within the next 18-24 months anyway.

    • Replies: @utu
  77. In an interim analyses triggered by events, it is common to miss the exact planned number because at any given time you do not know exactly how many cases you have. A miss of 10% is considered acceptable. From a planned sixty to an observed 90 would be unusual. We may not know the official reason until the FDA review is made public after approval.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Awbnid
  78. @ic1000

    From the no good deed goes unpunished school of thought, wait 10 years til BIPOCs in their thousands, plus their litigious Jewish allies, wind up suing Big Pharma in a mesothelioma-like shakedown for having been Tuskegeed with an undertested vaccine.

    • Agree: BenKenobi, botazefa
  79. @ic1000

    He argues hard but he writes like a spastic. And can’t spell or punctuate properly, so who knows?

  80. Charon says:
    @Wilkey

    Where TF were the Western intelligence agencies

    Same place they were hiding before 9/11. Hiding in plain sight.

    I remind you that our “intelligence services” have identified “white nationalism” as our #1 terror threat. So it’s only natural that our focus should be there.

  81. @Anonymous

    Apparently, this vaccine was developed by the son of a Turkish immigrant to Germany.

    If so, fair play to him and and the fame and glory which will surely come to him.

    No doubt every Turk in the world will, rightly, be immensely proud of him and of Turkey.

    ‘Diversity is our strength’ propaganda aside the vaccine is likely a product of teamwork and massive investment, over €400 million in 2019 according to BIO Deutschland.

    Apart from the two Turks (husband and wife), the firm BioNTech is distinctively European in terms of senior management and supervisory board members.

    Basically you are talking about a German eco-system that has produced lots of other biotech companies.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  82. The hypocrisy should make Democrats ashamed to show their faces. Do they believe COVID is a crisis or not? That orange man bad is responsible for literal thousands of deaths of the elderly and BIPOC communities or not? If those statements and emotions are real, then didn’t this month-long delay kill tens of thousands of people?

  83. Charon says:
    @ic1000

    Per Sailer’s heuristic, there is some evidence that black vulnerability is about-half Nature and about-half Nurture

    50/50 is our CYA way of saying we have no idea what the proportion is, but we feel reasonably confident it’s some of both. And please don’t hurt me Mr Wokemaster.

    • Replies: @ic1000
  84. @Travis

    So will she or won’t she trust this one? This whole line of thinking is so deranged. You’d think from the way they talk about and tremble about the scary politicized vaccines that Dr. President Trump was down in the lab and invented the vaccine himself in between experiments with sunlamps and bleach injections.

  85. Would it have changed anyone’s vote had the vaccine announcement been made before the election? It seems like Covid 19 wasn’t even close to orange man bad among voters’ concerns. However it does seem the wannabe fascist dictator got stabbed in the back by a corporation which was getting special considerations and money. Sounds a bit like textbook fascism to me, and apparently the actual dictator is not needed in this American Fascist-Crony Dictatorship. Quite the relief we can just rely on faceless, corrupt bureaucrats without the need for a tinpot.

  86. @utu

    Norway has a smaller population than Sweden , just 5 million people verse 10 million Swedes

    The largest city in Norway has 640,000 people compared to 1,600,000 people in Stockholm.

    There is no evidence that shutting down schools saved any lives. Sweden was able to keep their schools open, prioritizing the education of their youth. It is not only the economies which suffered due to lockdowns, the mental health and education of children is also important aspects those in favor of lockdowns ignore

    • Agree: mark green
  87. @friendofrons

    The plan was 32 followed by 62 followed by 92. They wound up not doing an interim analysis until 94 (i.e., 92, the third scheduled interim analysis).

  88. J.Ross says:

    >his own hirelings

    Trump hurt the pharmaceutical industry with real reform. The FDA has functionally always been a hireling of Big Pharma, not the President. Apparently Pfizer donated massively to Biden at both corporate and individual levels.

  89. @Amerimutt Golems

    The whole “ecosystem” to which you refer is Northwestern European, period. That is what continues to facilitate advancements and work of this nature. Everyone else (China!) is copying however they can.

    I hope there is a heaven from which I can look down and watch all the truly colorless brown people of the world wallow in their own filth after they have finally — after centuries of creeping and encroaching upon our homelands like weeds — pushed my kind fully aside.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    , @Jack D
  90. @Zippy

    Reagan got shot in 1981, was evidently going senile by 1984, and he still was pretty successful in his second term. His people knew what the old man would have wanted and they were pretty good at getting it for him. Of course he’d been governor of California for 8 years and thus had some first rate bureaucrats to bring with him to Washington like Weinberger.

  91. Anon[212] • Disclaimer says:

    For a notorious authoritarian, Trump sure gets pushed around and stabbed in the back even by his own hirelings a lot.

    No, he talks tough on Twitter, Steve. That’s all that matters.

  92. George says:

    “Yes, but that $1.95 billion commitment came from BARDA, not Operation Warp Speed.”

    Nope it all came from the giant slush fund knowns as Fed Gov.

    If you want a conspiracy theory, the Pharma Industrial Complex needs to get a vaccine out as soon as possible as the virus is ‘dissipating’* and people are no longer afraid and openly mocking mask wearing, lockdowns and restrictions. In 6 months it may be impossible to get voluntary compliance with their vaccination scheme from people who are no longer afraid.

    * Trump actually predicted this.

    Trump downplays the need for coronavirus vaccine: ‘It’ll go away at some point’
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/15/trump-downplays-need-for-coronavirus-vaccine-itll-go-away-at-some-point.html

  93. Geschrei says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    Trump has already used up his airtime to make dubious complaints about voter fraud (magic fraud which affected the votes for president but not for the House and Senate on the same ballot)

    I can only assume you were unaware of this claim from Trump attorney Sidney Powell:

    “We’ve identified at least 450,000 ballots in the key states that miraculously only have a mark for Joe Biden on them and no other candidate.”

    Powell said that in Pennsylvania, 98,000 single vote ballots had been cast for Biden; in Georgia, 80,000-90,000; Arizona, 42,000; Michigan, 69,000-115,000 and Wisconsin, 62,000.

    It’s not “magic” for votes not to affect races in which the voter has chosen not to participate.

    Source:
    https://bongino.com/sidney-powell-weve-identified-450000-ballots-cast-for-joe-biden-only-no-down-ballot-candidates

    (Interesting sidebar – while this rather significant claim occurred during a live interview on a very popular Fox News program, there is no mention of it on foxnews.com)

  94. Anonymous[212] • Disclaimer says:

    Mass Conspiracy or Masspiracy

  95. @Richard of Melbourne

    Obviously, you know not of the fact that Big Pharma is anything but a friend of Donald Trump. Look at who they donate to.

  96. J.Ross says:

    Zippy and Despair Anon look very similar to me in errors, style, length, and obvious purpose.

  97. Anon[976] • Disclaimer says:

    No chance will I allow this illegitimate, corrupt, globalist gov to put anything into my body. There are two triggers for the civil war I can think of that will finally make enough Americans fight to finish this once and for all… Gun confiscation and forced vaccination. Bring it.

    • Replies: @HenryA
  98. ic1000 says:
    @Charon

    > 50/50 is our CYA way of saying we have no idea what the proportion is

    Yeah, but in cases where Nature vs. Nurture can be estimated, it’s surprising how often it turns out to be in the neighborhood of half ‘n half, rather than 95/5 or 5/95.

  99. @PiltdownMan

    Okay, black people. We are gratified by your continual willingness to be guinea pigs for White medicine. Now roll up that sleeve….

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
  100. Kaz says:

    There has been news about successful vaccines, and then delays, walking it back, etc..

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-astrazeneca-ceo-says-december-january/

    I’ve been seeing this same story about vaccines for the past 3 months.

    ‘We’ll have something by October, December, oh now it’s early next year’

    This isn’t the first time the market has swung around like this on vaccine news.

    I’m not sure what makes it so different this time but I hope it’s real..

  101. Jack D says:
    @Clifford Brown

    With no “vaccine”, 80% of the population has no symptoms from COVID-19, either due to stronger immune systems or prior exposure to other coronaviruses. The Pfizer vaccine can increase the non-symptom result to 90%, likely for people who would otherwise get sick, but recover comfortably from a bad episode of the flu.

    Your math is completely wrong here. You are mixing apples and oranges. Of everyone who gets Covid, with or without a vaccine, 80% will have only mild or no symptoms. Receiving the vaccine will reduce the # of people who become infected at all by 90%. Of the remaining 10%, 80% will have mild symptoms. So let’s say you take two groups of 1,000 people each who have never had Covid before. One group receives the vaccine and the other doesn’t. Then you infect both groups with Covid. In the no vaccine group, 1,000 will get Covid, 800 will have mild cases, 200 will have serious cases, 10 will die. In the vaccine group, 100 will get Covid, 80 will have mild cases, 20 will have serious cases, 1 will die.

    In other words, the vaccine doesn’t increase the no symptom group from 80% to 90%, it increases it to 98%.

    As for whether the vaccine works better on people who would likely recover anyway, that remains to be seen. You are probably right in that the elderly tend to have weaker immune responses to vaccines. Many vaccines (e.g. the flu vaccine) have high dose versions that they give to the elderly for this reason. But at this point we don’t know.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    , @Bill
  102. peterike says:
    @NotAnonymous

    Pfizer Avoided R&D Funding From Trump’s Operation Warp Speed Because of Bureaucracy, Politics

    Oh yeah? Funny then that they released this in a press release back in July.

    “We’ve been committed to making the impossible possible by working tirelessly to develop and produce in record time a safe and effective vaccine to help bring an end to this global health crisis,” said Dr. Albert Bourla, Pfizer Chairman and CEO. “We made the early decision to begin clinical work and large-scale manufacturing at our own risk to ensure that product would be available immediately if our clinical trials prove successful and an Emergency Use Authorization is granted. We are honored to be a part of this effort to provide Americans access to protection from this deadly virus.”

    “Expanding Operation Warp Speed’s diverse portfolio by adding a vaccine from Pfizer and BioNTech increases the odds that we will have a safe, effective vaccine as soon as the end of this year,” said HHS Secretary Alex Azar. “Depending on success in clinical trials, today’s agreement will enable the delivery of approximately 100 million doses of this vaccine to the American people.”

    Oh yeah, this happened too.

  103. peterike says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    Trump has already used up his airtime to make dubious complaints about voter fraud (magic fraud which affected the votes for president but not for the House and Senate on the same ballot)

    You do realize that this makes it MORE likely that the votes were fraud, and not less?

  104. Jack D says:
    @ic1000

    B.bbb.but race does not exist! How can we even know if someone is “black”?

    Let’s say that it was the other way around and that for some reason blacks possessed some innate immunity to Covid and died of it at a much lower rate than whites. (BTW, the infection rate in Africa is very low despite the fact that they have essentially no healthcare system). And let’s say for that reason I proposed that white people should all get the vaccine first since their risk of death is 2 to 3x that of blacks. Would not this make me Hitler?

  105. check out albert bourla early life section!

  106. peterike says:
    @Anonymous

    Of course, this particular strain of coronavirus is different, because it is much, much more contagious than the flu

    No it isn’t.

    and has even even higher moratlity rate than most influenza viruses.

    It has effectively zero mortality rate for anyone under 50.

    So COVID could potentailly kill 400 million people Worldwide if left completely unchecked,

    Lol!

    which is bordering on extinctiion level event for civillization and almost for the Human species.

    Oh gosh, 400 million dead leaves only… 7 billion 400 million people remaining. Which drops us WAY back to what the population was in the distant past of 2005. And yet somehow, within the lifetimes of many alive today, the world population was about 3 billion. And yet… we survived.

    Do you really believe the moronic bilge you’re spewing, or are you just trying to get a rise?

    • LOL: mark green
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  107. @Buzz Mohawk

    Was just thinking about that. The brown hordes will feast upon the carcass of civilization, and then die off by the billions as they revert to cave-man status. Somehow, GoodWhites perceive this as a desirable future for mankind.

    But who am I fooling? Hardly anyone thinks ahead,not to mention far ahead.

  108. @Steve Sailer

    The guy who shot him came from my home town and lived next door to people I knew. On television, you saw my father’s colleague, my classmate’s father, come outside and talk to the press while the Hinkley family stayed inside his house and the FBI/Secret Service went through theirs.

    It’s a small world after all.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  109. @peterike

    “It has effectively zero mortality rate for anyone under 50.”

    How many voters aren’t under 50?

  110. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Is it not possible to have Western European Civilization without Western European people, Ship of Theseus style? First the chief scientists at BioNTech are replaced by the children of Turkish immigrants (that already happened). Then the people on their board are gradually replaced by the children of S. Asian and Chinese immigrants, Poles and Russians, etc. Eventually you could have “German” civilization without any actual Germans. I’m not saying that this is desirable or that it will actually happen, but it’s not impossible that this would happen (it probably would be impossible if the replacements were all black but there are many other races and some of those races in the past maintained advanced civilizations). In the US, you already see this happening in certain sectors – it may not be too long before classical orchestras are 100% Asian because whites have lost interest in classical music. Many “Indian” tribes in America consist of people with mostly European genes. Etc.

  111. @Polynikes

    Trump was widely vilified by the mass media (surprise) for predicting an effective vaccine as soon as Nov or Dec. All of the usual experts were trotted out in the NYT, WPost, CNN, NPR etc to declare that he was falsely retailing anti-science lies. Like you know he always does.

    To the guy upthread who asks how much difference it would have made if the announcement had come a week or two earlier, my answer is that it wouldn’t need to have made much difference at all, as the contested election shows. A percent or two in just a few states. That’s all that was needed.

    • Agree: Travis, ben tillman
  112. jimbo says:
    @Stonewall Jackson

    Simple. By a highly complex procedure of “making shit up”.

  113. @Jack D

    Yes, Jack, but our “General Electric” dryer made in China just crapped out after eight years, so I don’t think it will be quite the same.

    But yes, of course you are right. You and I can watch it all happen from above and argue about it. It will be fun.

    ..

    PS: When the same thing happened to our GE washer two years ago, also made in China, I bought a Speed Queen. It’s great. You should be proud of me.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    , @Jack D
  114. TheNurch says:

    Many contracted Covid on their watch since October if this is the truth and they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Maybe even murder if ANYONE died and they could have released this vaccine.

  115. jimbo says:
    @Zippy

    And here we have the problem with failing empires in general. The people inside the goverment, who know how to get things done, are uniformly corrupted by the system (they don’t last unless they are). An outsider who comes in to “shake things up”, can’t because he can’t get anyone to work for him who knows how to do it. The only way you could get anything done is by a literal conspiracy – a secret society inside the government, that makes their way through the bureaucracy while not tipping their hand (and working to protect and promote each other), waiting for someone to take charge so they can step up and put things right.

    Basically, you would need a literal Qanon conspiracy. Too bad Qanon is bullshit.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @anon
  116. @Jack D

    Is it not possible to have Western European Civilization without Western European people

    “If the rape is inevitable, why not lie back, relax, and try to enjoy it?”

    –Signed, your helpful FWP

  117. Awbnid says:
    @Anonymous

    “[A]vaccine being 90% effective, even in phase 3 trials doesn’t mean much because the assessment of effectiveness in humans is done in petri dish cultures of cultured human T-cells….”

    I believe you are incorrect with this trial. This was an “event driven” design. Which means a human having COVID was the event of interest.

    You are correct they have no released safety data, yet, and won’t until around Thanksgiving.

  118. @Anonymous

    Steve Sailer, a vaccine being 90% effective, even in phase 3 trials doesn’t mean much because the assessment of effectiveness in humans is done in petri dish cultures of cultured human T-cells. The actual “in vivo” testing on live humans is actually done at the end of the phase 3 trials. All “in vivo” testing up to phase 3 is done on rodents and primates….

    I guess you don’t know this stuff is already in the public record, particularly Moderna’s, which uses the same technology?

    All three phases are done on 100% human beings. Phase 1 on a few dozen at most, and is focused on dosing. Moderna found out 25 mcg of their stuff wasn’t enough, and 250 mcg was too much, all who got that dose had a rough time, but of the “see urgent care tomorrow” level except for one who got lightheaded and fainting, considered a “severe” reaction. Phase 2 was done on hundreds of people, Moderna tried 50 mcg and continued the 100 mcg dosing from Phase 1. Phase III is focused on efficacy, for these vaccines is done on an absolute minimum of 30,000 people, double blind half the vaccine, half saline solution placebo. Plenty of reports from Moderna subjects that the sole 100 mcg dose can be rough, “man up” but set aside the day after you get the second dose, you may need it. One thing we are skipping is fine tuning dosing, it sounds like Pfizer/BioNTech was more lucky at guessing their dosages.

    See also the reports from different technology (non-replicating virus vector) vaccine trials that have been temporary halted because one or two people got sick, tens of thousands of people mean bad things will happen to some, drug or not. For example, the one fatality so far in all the Western testing turned out to be someone who got the placebo (the drug company doesn’t know, that information is sequestered in a committee overseeing the study).

    And we have raw numbers for Pfizer/BioNTech, 43,538 humans in the Phase 3 study. So either everyone involved from the drug company to the FDA to the independent committee is lying about how these vaccines are being tested, oh, yeah, don’t forget the actual participants who make reports, often to local media as I’ve seen.

    Or you’re grossly ignorant, or you’re flat out lying, and we can safely ignore the rest of your propaganda.

  119. Redman says:
    @Anon

    Pfizer used to be the number one private employer in NYC. That was about 15 years ago. Since viagra, zoloft and lipitor (all 1990s blockbuster drugs), they’ve been just treading water. Until now.

  120. @Jack D

    Who cares? The whole point of Western civilization for me is Western people. I have interest at all in seeing how well other people can LARP Western Civilization.

    We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children.

    • Agree: Kylie, Gordo, Joseph Doaks
  121. Awbnid says:
    @friendofrons

    An an interim analyses triggered by events, it is common to miss the exact planned number because at any given time you do not know exactly how many cases you have. A miss of 10% is considered acceptable. From a planned sixty to an observed 90 would be unusual.

    In this case it was a miss bigger than that. The initial preliminary analysis was supposed to be done at around 32 cases.

    Also turns out there are more patients in the cohort than expected.

    This is one reason why this has been notable news: Not only do the results appear good, but they are WAY more statistically powerful than people were expecting from the first release of data from this trial.

  122. @Zippy

    Great comment, Zippy! I also appreciate your and Mr. Sailer’s (reply to you) words about President Reagan. He gets disparaged by all sorts, young who weren’t there, and older people too, who either weren’t there mentally or don’t have the big picture. I’ll say this yet another time:

    Mr. Reagan’s biggest fault was that he was too trusting of the people in the US Congress. He got screwed by them 2 major times. First, they had promised to start cutting the Socialist side of the budget since he was ramping up the defense budget to win the Cold War (which happened, BTW!)*. Secondly, on the ’86 Amnesty bill, there was supposed to be serious border controls implemented in return for amnestying what was supposed to be just a couple of million. (Not good, of course, but they “had a deal”.)

    Mr. Reagan was right in his “trust, but verify” (which actually means “don’t trust ’em”) policy wrt the USSR. He failed to uphold that in his dealings with the D-controlled House, and we all paid for it. BTW, Reagan wrote about his major regret about signing the 1986 Amnesty Bill, as described here.

    .

    * Granted, after a few years of this, the “deficits don’t matter” mantra took over. The American economy was still very strong back then. Maybe it was that “in the long run, we are all dead” bit…

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  123. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    You are completely wrong. The 90% effectiveness was determined based on human trials.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @BB753
  124. Anonymous[262] • Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey

    One would have thought that an immediate, executive, total and absolute refusal to admit any Chinese, right from the start of the pandemic would have been the prudent and intelligent thing to do.
    Of course, one can already hear the baying howls of The Economist, the lefties etc, circling the globe from 12 months previous, BUT, surely to even the pea brains of The Economist, the quite disgraceful curtailment of the most fundamental and natural human rights in existence by the western ‘democracies’ – under that truly horrible term of ‘lockdown’ – just what right have these people to ‘lock you down’?, is as nothing to prudent targeted immigration restriction, which is a fact feasible in the 21st century, as it was not in the 14th, to pour further oil on the flames, the brute fact was that the Chinese – the Covid people – are readily physically distinguishable from westerners, so in the vital, beginning stage could and should have been shunned.

  125. Redman says:
    @JimDandy

    This is true. But amazing to contemplate. That, along with Jake Tapper’s tweet last night are chilling. Tapper essentially implied that anyone questioning the validity of this banana republic-style election should worry about their future employment. His view on this is identical to thousands of elites and “employers” around the country.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnns-jake-tapper-condemned-as-smug-and-repellant-for-tweet-about-trump-supporters

    As Tucker would say: “Just shut up and do what your told .” What we’re seeing now exceeds the McCarthyism of the early 1950s.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
  126. Anon[370] • Disclaimer says:

    Well with such little info I am sorry to suggest that the utility and safety of the vaccine are far from certain. Little brained people are so desperate for a sip of something that looks like water the schlockmeister can sell them anything that is clear and not immediately toxic. Yes now millions can have the so called vaccine and make the Deep State insane with joy.

  127. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Ultimately, Reagan’s *ONLY* legacy was to more or less ensure the finality and totality of the Mexican and central Americanisation of the state of California, and eventually the entire USA.

    Apart from that, he – and the Bloomingdale headed syndicate which controlled him – was an undistinguished, untalented also-ran type President who sat on his ass for eight years, collected a big salary, whilst the Circus played on.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  128. @Buzz Mohawk

    “our “General Electric” dryer made in China just crapped out after eight years”

    After short-lived Hotpoints, we bought an expensive German-made AEG washing machine which did two or more washes a day (5 kids) for about 20 years before the bearings packed up. Built like a Panzer, I was impressed, we have another one now.

    OTOH our cheap British-made Creda tumble dryer is still going thirty five years on.

    My grandmother’s Coldrator fridge, also built like a tank, lasted 55 years, it looked fashionably retro in its last decade.

  129. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Wow, are they actually making dryers in China? I knew that Haier (Chinese company) had bought out GE but I didn’t realize that they were shipping the machines over. Up until now it wasn’t considered practical because dryers are bulky in relation to their value and there’s not that much labor in them anyway.

    Speed Queens, made to stand up to years of daily laundromat use, are great machines if maybe a little rough on your clothes and water wasteful compared to modern front loaders. It’s like the Crown Victoria of washing machines.

    If you are at all handy, I suggest that you try to repair your appliances the next time that they break. There are a million YouTube videos to guide you and most parts are cheap and readily available online (try ebay or Amazon and not the dedicated appliance parts vendors whose prices tend to be higher). Most appliances are remarkably simple once you open them up – compared to a car they’re like children’s toys. Usually all that is wrong is that a belt has broken or a sensor has failed or there’s a coin stuck in the pump, etc. Once you realize that these things are not mystical black boxes but devices that almost anyone can work on (safely if you take a few simple precautions) then your whole view of appliances changes. If you have to pay $200 for a service tech to come to your house every time a $2 sensor fails, it doesn’t pay to keep old appliances going. But if a $2 sensor costs you $2 plus a little bit of your spare time, the fix or replace equation becomes very different. I think that it is literally possible to keep most appliances going indefinitely.

  130. Erik L says:
    @PiltdownMan

    The delay in announcement will have no effect on when the vaccine is approved and distributed

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  131. @Charlotte

    I’ve read that Trump, in person, likes people to like him. He needed a ruthless and effective chief to ensure that deviation from the administration agenda was not allowed. Trump never found the right guy.

    He needed a Dick Cheney off the leash.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  132. Redman says:
    @Gordo

    The head of the CDC was canned after the 1976 bubonic plague scare resulting in a rushed vaccine.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_swine_flu_outbreak

    I’ve already had and recovered from CV. So I ain’t taking it.

    • Thanks: Gordo
  133. @Zippy

    That says it all. Trump’s vanity, poor personnel judgment, laziness and incompetence cost him the election.

    all that. But where is the republican deep state working in his admin, pushing for balanced budgets, manufacturing startups in the US, criminalize ballot harvesting and other forms of mail in ballot coercion, end to birth right citizenship, … Where was the cabal of policy nerds who worked to get the vaccines tested quickly, who were debating and undermining ( for cause ) Dr. Fauci?

  134. anon[243] • Disclaimer says:

    It was slow walked. Obviously. Out of an abundance of caution.

    I expect a Biden miracle. A few weeks of delay…maybe 6 will fast forward us to the initial rollout very soon, since the election is out of the way.

    Meanwhile, in Brazil, a Covid has been incredibly politicalized. The UK vaccine vs the Chinese.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-19-vaccine-race-sparks-political-fight-in-brazil-11603364415?mod=article_inline

    The Chinese vaccine has been at the center of a political battle in Brazil between President Jair Bolsonaro and São Paulo’s powerful state governor, João Doria. Mr. Doria, who is expected to run against Mr. Bolsonaro in Brazil’s 2022 presidential elections, has spearheaded the development in Brazil of the Sinovac vaccine. He has said he hopes to vaccinate everyone in São Paulo state as early as March.

    Biden is now in the position of explaining why, potentially, São Paulo will be done with it in early March. Brazil, no less.

  135. Maybe Trump couldn’t get the FDA to move at the pace he needed, but who moved the Serbian embassy to Jerusalem? If you catch it just day before the vaccine becomes available in your area, remember that it was a sacrifice worthy of the Peace with Sudan.

  136. Travis says:
    @Anonymous

    The FDA is the main culprit, they had to approve the Pfizer delay in testing the effectiveness of this vaccine. Without the corrupt FDA we they would have told Pfizer to finish the preliminary findings and continue testing. Instead the FDA told them it was OK to stop their study and to withhold the initial report. The FDA is run by Democrats and fully staffed by swamp dwellers like the rest of the government agencies.

  137. @Jack D

    “Wow, are they actually making dryers in China?”

    Some fifteen years or more ago I went to hospital for an X-ray and noticed that the GE-branded X-ray machine was actually made in China. Must admit I felt slightly worried for the radiographer, I hope she had a dosimeter on at all times.

  138. @Jack D

    Maybe this has changed since I checked some years ago, but Speed Queens are dangerous investments for the consumer, the company pays their independent contractors by the service call, does not take into consideration how long the process is. So if your’s arrives with shipping damage, a severe factory defect, or suffers a serious problem as opposed to an electro-mechanical device behind one of the dials needing replacementm the standard service call, you’re out of luck, they refuse to do time consuming repairs because they aren’t getting paid for that.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  139. jellaby says:

    Pharmaceutical politics are intertwined with our China foreign policy. Pharma is setting up China as its research center. China’s surveillance state, absence of privacy protection hurdles, forced research subjects, and state funding has Pharma bending over backwards to get in. And Google is there too. They want to be the company that collects all the data. It is mentioned in this interview: https://lawliberty.org/podcast/will-we-be-sino-formed/

    Huawei is going to use this to wedge its way into western countries (e.g., if you want to bring back Pharma, here’s what it needs). When that (and other pressures) is set up, the political class is going to fold like a cheap suit.

  140. northeast says:
    @Steve Richter

    Trump and his people could never imagine a literal coup by intelligence assets. He’s been off-balance since day one and still did a decent job.

    • Replies: @Patrick in SC
  141. @Jack D

    The Turkish immigrant husband and clinical researcher founded BioNTech in 2006, the wife joined the board two years later.

  142. @Jack D

    Yeah, but the Speed Queen cleans better, a lot better. It was the last one before new regulations forced the company to modify their machines, and I am very happy I found it.

    You might like the whole story:

    [MORE]

    My wife was in Europe visiting her parents, so I was left to my own resources. She does the laundry. That washer had given us problems in the past, and this time it just refused to work for me. Rather than try to fix it or have it fixed, I just decided to kick the shit out of it.

    Home alone with no female to temper me, I kicked the shit out of the washing machine. I took joy in that. I literally kicked it over and over until the whole front was dented and bashed in.

    The next morning I woke up with a big, purple balloon where my right big toe used to be. Not much pain, but I have a high tolerance. So, I went to a walk-in clinic, where something happened that made me laugh: The young, vaguely brownish doctor who was on duty got grossed out when he saw my toe. Yep, he literally went “ugh” and made a face. I thought doctors weren’t supposed to react like that, but you know, everything is changing.

    X-rays revealed a broken bone, and all I had to do was wait for it to heal and for the toenail to slowly return, over a period of months. All is well, and I am still happy that I kicked the shit out of that washing machine.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Mr. Anon
  143. @Jake

    Marxist/Alinsky Satan-approved Rule #1: Invert the truth all the time, focusing on accusing those you hate and wish to destroy of being and doing what you are and do.

    As God Incarnate Jesus said at John 8:44 to the Jews of the oral tradition which became the Talmud before those Jews responded to Him at John 8:48:

    You are the children of your father the devil and your father’s lusts you eagerly pursue. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he speaks in character, because he is a liar and the father of lies.

    The All Knowing God called them “children of” to indicate the ethnic propensity reflected in their oral/Talmudic tradition knowing it would continue in their lineage for as long as those of the lineage rebel against His Divinity.

    Jesus’ Divine Wisdom is proven by the behavior to this day of the descendants of those to whom He was speaking then, behavior you accurately distill to the single sentence quoted above.

  144. @Anonymous

    Bullshit. I guess you weren’t there, weren’t paying attention, or have never heard of the Cold War against Communism.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
  145. Anonymous[166] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    My Youtube algorithm has been serving up a lot of Reagan interviews and press conferences and other items recently (for God knows why).

    I was in High School in the 1980s and was paying some attention to the media surrounding him. The media often denigrated his intellect from my memory, and I have often completely bought that “Reagan was senile and a figurehead.”

    But the Youtube videos I have been watching, many of them from post-84 do not appear to show outright, clear senility. I was startled at some impressive responses and details he gave in many interviews surrounding negotiations with Gorbachev for example. There is even an Oval Office sit-down with the 3 main news anchors (Rather, Jennings and Brokaw) plus Bernard Shaw where Reagan held his own cognitively to pointed, complex, detailed questions on arms control treaties etc, the likes of which the Media no longer ask since at least Clinton left. It is apparent that ALL of society has been dumbed down in this ADHD, Kardashin, cellphone society we have created. “What is your favorite ice cream” seems to be the low-brow level of Media scrutiny nowadays.

    Anyway, it is definitely startling to see Reagan give such details and hold his own at age 75-77 when now seeing both Biden 77 (definite decline) and even Trump 74 (lazy BS spin artist) spaceout so often on simpler questions. Especially when you know Reagan’s Alzheimers was brewing on some level in the late 1980s.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  146. @Anonymous

    Meh. I now know several people that have had it, including my neighbor, my bosses family and my wife’s bosses family. All are under 55 and thin. Symptoms ranged from a bad flu to absolutely nothing*. Even my neighbor, who is 50 and developed bad flu-like symptoms, recovered quickly and is back to running his normal pace for his 10-mile runs.

    The new CDC death tables have risk of death for my age group at slightly greater than my annual risk of death from traffic accidents. And those CDC death tables include fat Blacks and Mestizos.

    Sorry if you’re really old or really unhealthy. The rest of us are fine. The problem isn’t the virus; the problem is the hysteria. And the self-centered old people like you that won’t let go.

    This is just like global warming. The Left takes a phenomenon with some scientific basis, gets completely hysterical, turns it into a religious cult and ends up destroying everything in the process.

    *we know a thin female college student that caught it and tested positive, and her response was: “like I think I might have had a sore throat or something”

  147. BB753 says:
    @Jack D

    What does the vaccine do in the 10 % of cases where it doesn’t work? Is it harmless? I very much doubt it.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  148. @northeast

    Serious question for you and the other commentariat:

    Why are the intelligence services and FBI so anti-Trump? I mean, someone like a James Comey at least appears to be a normal, heterosexual man. What gives?

    Is Trump a threat to downsize them or mess with their pensions? Expose their graft and/or conflicts of interest?

    I ask because when I think “G Man” I don’t think “liberal” (as in Antifa, sexually ambiguous CNN anchors, college professor type, or blue haired gender studies major).

  149. @Cloudbuster

    It would be useful to convince black people, say on Twitter, that the vaccine is “racist” and that’s why it’s being tested on them first.

    The right should have rooms full of people whose full time job it is to spread misinformation on the internet.

    This article is particularly helpful in that regard.

    https://dailystormer.su/how-to-be-a-nigger-on-twitter/

    • LOL: Cloudbuster
    • Replies: @clyde
  150. @Steve Sailer

    “[Trump] doesn’t have the attention span to obsess enough over what his enemies would conspire to do against him.”

    Correct. For that, you need someone like Richard Nixon — who had the intelligence, the attention span and the full knowledge of how low his enemies would go to undermine him. Unfortunately, that combination of traits comes with its own set of difficulties, as we found during Watergate. (And, in contrast to Trump, Nixon generally had top-drawer people in his administration, and welcomed high-powered intellects in the White House.)

    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
  151. @utu

    (3) If Sweden had a lockdown its deaths per capita would be similar to Norway which is a country of similar population density and human development index. This would translate into saving 5,500 lives. Could Sweden afford contracting its economy by 10% instead of 8% to save 5,500 lives?

    As to economic impact, Sweden is still part of a global economy and an integrated EU economy that has committed harakiri. Small businesses in Sweden are likely doing better than their counterparts in lockdown countries. The impact on mental health, substance abuse, education and overall human happiness and well-being should also not be discounted.

    I encourage you to watch the admittedly long Ivor Cummins video I linked to as he specifically addresses Sweden’s slightly higher death rate compared to other Nordics. His explanation is that Sweden had a soft flu season for the last year or two and the higher death rates reflects aged and infirm people dying in 2020 as opposed to 2018 or 2019. The death rates from respiratory diseases in Norway and Finland were higher in past years and thus there was far less “dry timber”, as Cummins calls it, to die in 2020.

    Soft historic flu seasons in recent years means that there were more people likely to die from a serious flu epidemic this year. COVID-19 is a serious disease, but not one terribly out of line with the historic data.

    • Replies: @utu
  152. Currahee says:

    Well, well, well. Trump never had a chance.

  153. The good news is that we know that those who died due to the delay are certain to have voted for Biden.

  154. @Jack D

    I am not sure we know this yet. I do not think it has been announced whether vaccinated people may carry the virus, but do not have any symptoms. This already happens with 80% of the population naturally. Critically, we do not yet know the effectiveness of the vaccine on the high risk group, the aged and the immunocompromised.

    The public data is currently incomplete.

  155. Jack D says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I’m glad it was you and not me who did this.

    My usual approach in such situations is that I am determined to fix the damn thing no matter what. No stupid machine is going to defeat me. Half of the time, it goes like a dream and I pat myself on the back for having done a $200 repair for peanuts (sometimes not even parts – the last time my washer stopped pumping, a toothpick had jammed the pump impeller. The cost of a DIY toothpick-ectomy is zero except for a few cuts and scrapes – I always manage to cut myself somehow.) The other half of the time, it feels like I have just dug the hole even deeper and I curse myself for having started. I have wasted hours and the thing is even more broken than when I started and I can’t even figure out how to put it back together so it is back in one piece. About this time, my wife says “shouldn’t we have called a repairman?” This really pisses me off and I redouble my efforts. About 90% of the time, I dig my way back out of the hole and the other 10% of the time I give up and throw the whole damn mess in the trash.

  156. anon[381] • Disclaimer says:
    @jimbo

    And here we have the problem with failing empires in general.

    Overproduction of elites -> less competent elites -> more overproduction -> less competent…

    Test this by examining the writings of Current Year Harvard grads with the same from 1920. Never mind the politics, just look at the command of the language. It is pathetic.

    I wonder how long before the Woke start burning old books just to get rid of competent writing?

  157. @Steve Sailer

    how much better would the country have been if Reagan ran and won in 1976, instead of the party bosses forcing it to be Ford?

    how many VPs are successful as President? it doesn’t seem like many. even when they eek out a win and a term as President, they are usually not popular and only last 1 term. Truman solidly unpopular, same for Ford, Bush, Gore. does not augur well for Biden, or Harris. Nixon probably the only one who did well on his own.

    i’ve also read that appointed Senators lose re-election 70% of the time. so the people usually know what they want. and it’s not the VP.

  158. APL says:
    @utu

    Sweden’s gain of 2% of the economy is worth about 10.6 billion dollars. That’s almost $2 million a head for a lot of people who really only lost about 2-3 years of expected life. So, yeah probably a good bet. Harsh but true. Eventually the choice is always what is the cost?

    • Replies: @utu
  159. Rosie says:
    @Jack D

    Is it not possible to have Western European Civilization without Western European people, Ship of Theseus style?

    Apparently not.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omar-joe-manchin-progressives.amp

  160. @That Would Be Telling

    Get a $200 Roper US made dryer (at least “assembled” here). What I was looking for was the least amount of electronics of any sort. It fit the bill with only supposedly a “run till dry” mode*, but it doesn’t work, which is fine with me, so it goes by time anyway. I don’t know if there’s chip one in that thing, and that’s why I got it! It’s been 5 years only, but that makes it like new to me.

    .

    * That’d have to require at least some kind of humidity sensor, but, is there really one in there?

  161. @Jack D

    The cost of a DIY toothpick-ectomy is zero except for a few cuts and scrapes – I always manage to cut myself somehow.

    So do I; I seem to be very skin cut infection resistant, so I think since I’ve been young I’ve just been careless about that. But check out ROC gloves, my plumber introduced me to them while we were doing major renovations to a house I’d bought. With them, I managed to do several months worth of hard work without a single cut or scrape. They’ve quite thin, come in normal gloves sizes and therefore transmit feel well, so you can do a lot of work wearing them that normally requires taking off your gloves. If you work with stuff that shouldn’t touch your skin like my plumber, there are versions with coated fronts.

  162. @Jack D

    I took apart a Bosch cordless driver that I’d had for 15 years at the time, because I’d just spent $80 on 2 new batteries and it didn’t run. Man, I had the 3 sets of planetary gears out and all kind of other spacers, rings, etc. I really thought it would never work again but would be a good learning experience.

    I put it back together, and it didn’t work. However, then I messed with the battery contacts, and that was the problem (would have taken 10 seconds). Whrrrr! Working today, 5 years later. (One time it dropped from about 15 ft., but onto leaves and dirt at least.) I was pretty proud of myself anyway, or just amazed, that it worked after being taken WAY apart.

    I’ve got that same attitude as you, Jack, though sometimes I use the Buzz Mohawk method. It does tend to calm me down. I’ve got a few taken-apart things around the house, waiting for something, … a part … me to die?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Adam Smith
  163. @Anonymous

    I thought Pfizer was punishing Trump for finally going after pharmaceutical company profit gouging? You know because it was one of the bazillion things that he talked about doing but actually made worse in practice. That didn’t fly, so now we’re pretending that Trump…..Donald Trump….current President Donald Trump was just too principled and ethical? That’s the line we’re going with now?

  164. OT – Brit soccer administrator resigns after using phrase “coloured people” and suggesting (based on the makeup of his IT department), that Afro-Caribbeans and Asians might possibly have different career interests.

    At least he didn’t say “might have different mental and physical abilities”.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8933911/FA-chairman-Greg-Clarke-pressure-resign-car-crash-DCMS-grilling.html

    If you look at top level football, the Afro-Caribbean communities are over-represented versus the South Asian community,’ Clarke said. ‘If you go to the IT department at the FA, there’s a lot more South Asians than there are Afro-Caribbeans. They have different career interests,’ he added, while also claiming that a coach once told him that young girls ‘don’t like the ball kicked at them hard‘.

    How dare he! Noticing differences – between black and brown, or male and female, is the unforgiveable sin.

    On the topic of gay players in football, Clarke said: ‘Anyone who runs out onto the pitch and on Monday says ‘I am gay, I am proud of it and I am happy and it’s a life choice and I have made it and my life is a better place because I have disclosed it’… I do believe they would have the support of their mates in the changing room.

    Wrong again! You can’t say it’s a life choice, it’s an immutable characteristic (except when it isn’t). The Science Is Clear!

    Poor sod. The sad thing is that I, who have flown through all my (annual, mandatory) diversity training, could have coached him before he stepped into the viper’s pit that’s a House Of Commons Committee, and he’d still have his well-paid job.

    “Coloured” is so 1960s. “Black and Minority Ethnic” is pretty safe today. I wouldn’t recommend mixing it up with “visible minorities” without taking my advanced course.

    “Gay and lesbian” is pretty safe, too, as long as “trans” or “transgender” gets a mention somewhere, just to show you’re aware and on board. Avoid “queer” or any of the other 56 genders, that’s for advanced practitioners only. With a guy who’s been in footy all his life the temptation to put the default “f***ing” in front of “queer” might be too great.

    Sanjay Bhandari, Executive Chair at Kick It Out, says: ‘I was extremely disappointed to see Greg Clarke’s comments today in the DCMS Select Committee. His use of outdated language to describe Black and Asian people as ‘coloured’ is from decades ago and should remain consigned to the dustbin of history.

    ‘Being gay is not a ‘life choice’ as he claimed too. The casual sexism of saying ‘girls’ do not like balls hit at them hard, is staggering from anyone, let alone the leader of our national game. It is completely unacceptable.

    ‘I was particularly concerned by the use of lazy racist stereotypes about South Asians and their supposed career preferences. It reflects similar lazy stereotypes I have heard has been spouted at club academy level.

    That kind of attitude may well partially explain why South Asians are statistically the most under-represented ethnic minority on the pitch. We will be talking about this more later this week when we discuss some research to be released on Thursday.

    ‘Football needs to step up and address this lack of representation of South Asians on the pitch – there has been virtually no progress in 40 years. My experience as a South Asian is that we do not have different career aspirations, but we have different outcomes.

    Talent is evenly distributed, but opportunity is not.

    You’ll have noticed how well India and Pakistan do in international football, just as well as African countries or Caribbean ones. Don’t they?

    https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population

    India (pop 1,369,474,506) are ranked 108th in the world, just behind the Faroe Islands (pop 52,703) and Trinidad and Tobago (1,366,725).

    Pakistan (pop 220,892,331) are ranked 200. Out of 210 countries. Gibraltar (33,691) are 195.

    Bangladesh (pop 169,620,892) are 187, just six places behind Lichtenstein (38,749).

    Sanjay Bhandari is a lawyer. Do they all have so little respect for hard evidence, or is that just him?

  165. anon[243] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Yes regarding Speed Queens. Built for neo-luddites, not a chip to be seen. It is sort of a lifestyle brand. Like Chevy C-10. https://c10clubapparel.com

  166. What kind of sanctions will be imposed on those who refuse to take the crapcine?

    What was all that talk about a woman’s right to control her own body?

    Meanwhile, a man is not allowed to control his own head: Abolish motorcycle helmet laws!

    Oh, and abolish compulsory school attendance laws, i.e. the draft.

  167. utu says:
    @HammerJack

    5500 lives sounds like a lot. – Sweden had 6,057 deaths at 598 deaths/1M population and Norway 285 deaths at 52 deaths/1M population. If Sweden emulated Norway about 5,500 deaths would be prevented.

  168. utu says:
    @Clifford Brown

    I encourage you to watch the admittedly long Ivor Cummins video I linked to as he specifically addresses Sweden’s slightly higher death rate compared to other Nordics.

    I would encourage you to think about what you see and hear on YT videos. Factor of 10 higher is not slightly higher. This should give you a pause. The “dry timber” nonsense is a desperate last ditch defense of the “Sweden is great” meme.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
  169. @Jack D

    If you are at all handy, I suggest that you try to repair your appliances the next time that they break.

    Buy a 10 year old top loader without the fancy push button led controls and fix it yourself. There’s a motor, which usually is not the problem, a belt, and some pulleys. Youtube is your friend as Jack D said.

  170. I don’t know if Steve has written or commented on this story but it is pretty funny, especially the comments to the article. Eva Longoria calls latinas the “real heroes” of the election. As one might imagine, black women lose their minds.
    https://twitter.com/i/events/1325918996714041345

  171. @Steve Sailer

    Malcolm Tucker

    You are correct. The guy who played Malcolm Tucker was awesome, and the entire Thick of It series was hilarious. It was written by Armando Iannucci, who also wrote Veep which was essentially a US spinoff. Both highly recommended.

  172. Coemgen says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Trump’s full page ads criticizing U.S. foreign policy he took out in several influential newspapers in 1987 is strong evidence that he does not have an “attention span” problem.

    He’s been on message for over thirty years regarding U.S. foreign policy.

    Anecdote: I clearly remember reading his ad in the Boston Globe back in ’87. I thought the guy was nuts. His later run for U.S. president as the anti-globalist candidate confirmed that thought but, what would we do without those guys who are willing to rush into fire.

  173. @Coincidence Radar Technician

    “(((Albert Bourla)))”

    Do the brackets mean Albert is Hungarian? I like their volk tales.

  174. Any corporation that has the word ‘diversity’ anywhere on its home page, as Pfizer.com does, can be assumed to be anti-conservative and anti-Trump. It’s obvious why they delayed the announcement.

    • Agree: Joseph Doaks
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  175. @Anonymous Jew

    I went to the [Agree] and then the [Thanks] buttons. Nah, this one deserves both in writing. You nailed in here, A.J.

    Just like your friend of your last paragraph (well, a combination of that and your earlier anecdote), I have a friend around 57 who is in great shape – runs in the woods for 12 miles in the afternoon, even in the summer, with no water. He was told that a colleague of his that he worked right next to had the Kung Flu. Of course, this was 2 weeks later, as that’s the way it goes, but my friend said he did remember a tiny bit of a sore throat and feeling a little slow about that time. That’s all.

    Thanks. I agree.

  176. Nachum says:
    @anon

    Don’t forget Ezekiel Emanuel, who wrote a piece in the NY Times declaring that Trump would release a vaccine before the election (projection much, just like everything else- elections, Russia, corona, etc- they say about him?) and no one should take it.

    Neither Emanuel nor the Times saw fit to mention, at least at first, that he was the Biden campaign’s Covid guy. And now he’s on Biden’s Covid commission, of course.

    Covid affects old people especially. Emanuel thinks people should all die by 75. (Biden is 78, by the way.)

  177. @Gordo

    “Don’t be in the first few million to get it is my advice on all vaccines”

    In America, the first few million doses of the bio-weapon vaccine are reserved for the guinea pigs of colour.

  178. @Anonymous

    Apparently, this vaccine was developed by the son of a Turkish immigrant to Germany.

    If so, fair play to him and and the fame and glory which will surely come to him.

    Fez who? Fez you!

    Are you sure it really wasn’t a Shriner?

    What have Turks ever given us, other than taffy and headaches?

  179. @Patrick in SC

    “Why are the intelligence services and FBI so anti-Trump?”

    The CIA is a Babylonian Joint. Trump’s reconfigured trade deals don’t accord with Babylonian aka Globalist economic policy. The FBI is primarily a political police for the dominant ideology.

  180. vinteuil says:
    @Jack D

    …it may not be too long before classical orchestras are 100% Asian because whites have lost interest in classical music…

    It’s not so much that white gentiles “lost interest” in classical music – it’s that their interest in classical music was systematically undermined by an unholy alliance of…

    …well, I’d better stop there. Big Sister is watching.

    Classical music was the chief glory of Western Civilization. Machaut’s Messe de Nostre Dame; Schubert’s Winterreise; Debussy’s Sonate for Flute, Viola & Harp; the Eighth Symphonies of Vagn Holmboe & Eduard Tubin…

    In the new dispensation, all this will be lost.

    Like tears in rain.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    , @Anon
  181. Remember Trump’s abortive campaign to force drug companies to lower their prices? It came out of the blue — and then disappeared again.

    Something was going on there.

    Maybe, in his endearing way, he was trying to bully them into hurrying up with the vaccine?

    Maybe instead, they decided they’d better make sure he wasn’t around to make good on his threat?

    It all stinks, that’s for sure.

  182. @Mike_from_SGV

    ‘Any corporation that has the word ‘diversity’ anywhere on its home page, as Pfizer.com does, can be assumed to be anti-conservative and anti-Trump…’

    These days, I think it would be fairer to say that any corporation that has the word ‘diversity’ on its home page has a reasonably well-developed sense of self-preservation.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  183. Was Theodore White talking about politics, or pharmacology?

    … it is all fraudulent, all of it, everywhere, up and down, East and West. The movies, radio and state and books and TV — all of them are fraudulent; and the foundations and universities and scholars, they are all fraudulent too; and the executives and the financiers … and the Commissars and the Krushchevs and the Mao Tze-tungs, they are fraudulent equally; it is all a great game; and there are two dangers in this great game: first, the fraudulent people come to believe their own lies, they come to have faith in their fraud; and second, underneath it all, because people are fundamentally good, they come to realize that we live in lies and the people get angrier and angrier and they may explode.

    The scenery of politics is ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. Yet I must report all this as serious. This is the strain on me. That I must be serious, and I must exhaust myself trying to find out what is true and what is fraud and yet, even after I know, I must take them both seriously and write of them both as if I did not know the true distinctions between them.

    LEGENDARY JOURNALIST IN PRIVATE: “IT IS ALL FRAUDULENT, ALL OF IT, EVERYWHERE”

    • Thanks: Joseph Doaks
    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
  184. @peterike

    What’s likely is that there was a lot of Republican vote-splitting by suburban men told by their wives to go Biden or be evicted to the couch.

    • Replies: @anon
  185. @utu

    The Swedish mortality rate in 2020 during this alleged unprecedented pandemic will be consistent with (or possibly lower) than the number of deaths in Sweden over the past ten years!

    Weak and elderly people die every year. Tragic, but this is a natural phenomenon. This year those deaths are being attributed to COVID-19. There is no evidence that Sweden is suffering undue deaths because it has adopted a rational policy for the health and prosperity of its people.

    The total number of deaths in Sweden as of November 6, 2020 is 77,300. The total number of deaths in 2019 (which was an unusually low year) was 88,760. If the current mortality rate continues 2020 is on par to be slightly higher, but most likely it will be lower because the big die off from COVID-19 happened in the Spring.

    Please check for yourself.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/525353/sweden-number-of-deaths/

    Also, note that countries tend to count COVID deaths differently and Sweden might be more lax than other Nordic countries. The tests for determining COVID infections are wildly inaccurate (30% to 90% false positives). This is kind of important.

    Regardless, aggregate deaths in Sweden for 2020 are consistent with or slightly below the annual number of deaths over the past ten years. There is no evidence of an increase of deaths in Sweden because the Swedish government wisely listened to THE SCIENCE and followed traditional best public policy practices which is to not lockdown a society because of a flu epidemic.

    • Replies: @utu
  186. @Jack D

    ‘…If you have to pay $200 for a service tech to come to your house every time a $2 sensor fails, it doesn’t pay to keep old appliances going. But if a $2 sensor costs you $2 plus a little bit of your spare time, the fix or replace equation becomes very different…’

    At a minimum, at least take a look first.

    I once got lazy and when the fridge went on the blink, called Mikes Appliance. Their deal was that it would always be $125 plus the part. Okay — for the San Francisco Bay Area, that’s not too bad.

    So dude shows up, pulls out the fridge, opens the back — and replaces the obviously melted black box, for which he charges $60. $185, please.

    Obviously, I could have managed that — and got the part for $25. All it would have taken me was ten minutes to fiddle around long enough to see it.

    My fault. Live and learn. Always look. If you’re still baffled, then call.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  187. @the one they call Desanex

    Is that Derb over there on the (dissident) right?

  188. utu says:
    @APL

    Are you saying that Swedes would utilize human hair and body fat to improve their cost-benefit calculus of the pandemic? Should we boycott mattresses and soap from IKEA?

  189. @anon

    Democrats ranting about vaccines not being safe, meaning that Pfizer needed ironclad evidence it worked or they’d lose money.

    Nope. Needing “ironclad evidence” won’t wash.

    They had already had the “ironclad evidence” in their possession, in the form of the samples sitting in their fridge. They made a premeditated decision to break protocol and chose to delay testing of those samples until the day after the election. Based on their earlier results, they certainly knew what the data would show.

    Since their deliberate delay necessarily slowed down the vaccine rollout by a few weeks, Pfizer and the FDA were willing to kill people to hurt Trump.

  190. @Roderick Spode

    FDA = F**king Deepstate Assholes.

  191. Jack D says:
    @BB753

    According to the trial protocol, if they think that anyone has gotten sick from the vaccine itself they have to pause the whole trial. They didn’t pause the trial. Nothing is probably exactly what happens – the vaccine provokes no immune response – it’s like you didn’t get it at all.

    • Agree: epebble
    • Replies: @epebble
  192. @ic1000

    Fine, some black guy can have my dose — but what if most blacks don’t want the vaccine? It’s now well established that you can’t confront them or arrest them, so how to vax them against their will? Maybe an incentive program, kind of a reparation on the down low?

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    , @e.272
  193. @Erik L

    The delay in announcement will have no effect on when the vaccine is approved and distributed

    Why not? The regulatory approval process moves in stages. If the testing protocol was completed two weeks earlier, they could be presumably be two weeks into the next stage by now.

    Also, it could have made a big difference to some pretty important decisions — such as schools that decided to cancel classes for the Spring semester.

  194. @Buzz Mohawk

    The guy who shot him came from my home town and lived next door to people I knew. On television, you saw my father’s colleague, my classmate’s father, come outside and talk to the press while the Hinkley family stayed inside his house and the FBI/Secret Service went through theirs.

    It’s a small world after all.

    The Bushes are Hinckley descendants.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hinckley
    https://famouskin.com/ahnentafel.php?name=16279+john+hinckley+jr

    Okay, hundreds of thousands of Americans, if not millions, are by now. But Ron Reagan’s middle name is Prescott. Imagine that!

    Other Hinckley descendants, including the attempted assassin (who has at least a second Hinckley descent) are Barack Obama and Alfred Kinsey, included in the WARGS chart under notes for #4366 and #5512.

    Ancestry of George W. Bush (WARGS)

  195. Anon7 says:
    @Zippy

    “That said, if not for the Covid he probably would have won.”

    I disagree completely. The media in its entirety including Fox would have redoubled their efforts to run his reputation into the ground. Every day, dozens of separate efforts would have been made to make it impossible to defend Trump or listen to him. Big tech companies and social media giants openly conspired against him.

    How do you not understand this?

    “Trump’s vanity, poor personnel judgment, laziness and incompetence cost him the election.”

    No, I disagree. Conservatives all decry Democrat-run cities, and the Democrat machine politics that have ruined these cities. I would think that conservatives, of all America’s people, would understand what the Democrat machine produces. I’ll give you a hint: it does not produce good schools, good infrastructure, or honest good-paying jobs.

    The Democrat machine produces votes for Democrats. And it would have given Biden the victory no matter how many people voted for Donald Trump. They need to get rid of him too badly. There are hundreds of trillions of dollars on the line, money that will be made in the coming decades from open borders and an America with one billion people. The four year delay caused by the Trump presidency has already cost them $trillions in lost profits and lost investment income.

  196. You and Jack D remind me of two housewives chatting over the backyard fence. Not that there’s anything wrong with that!

  197. Bernard says:
    @Jack D

    About this time, my wife says “shouldn’t we have called a repairman?” This really pisses me off and I redouble my efforts. About 90% of the time, I dig my way back out of the hole and the other 10% of the time I give up and throw the whole damn mess in the trash.

    Followed by “what is my time worth and is it worth this frustration?”. But you’re right, so many repairs are quite simple, the greatest difficulty is diagnosis, not the repair itself.

  198. utu says:
    @Clifford Brown

    The Swedish mortality rate in 2020 during this alleged unprecedented pandemic will be consistent with (or possibly lower) than the number of deaths in Sweden over the past ten years!

    Why do you believe in nonsense? The graph that you linked to shows the total for first 10 months. Multiply it by 12/10 and you will get number larger than any in last 10 years. The excess of deaths in Sweden shows excess deaths statistics. It occurred from March to June.

    Magnitude, demographics and dynamics of the effect of the first wave of the COVID-19 pandemic on all-cause mortality in 21 industrialized countries
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-1112-0/figures/1

    “Sweden might be more lax than other Nordic countries” – Why would that be so? So Sweden could undermine justification and success of its policy? Quite the opposite. Actually, the Chief Epidemiologist of Sweden, Anders Tegnell in April said that they would ‘tweak’ the definition of ‘died of covid’ to get lower number of deaths:

    https://archive.fo/seBhv#selection-981.0-981.230

    The Swedes believe that changing how the figures are reported will cut the number of people dying from coronavirus by as much as four fifths , and slash the death rate to well below 1 per cent, perhaps even lower than seasonal flu

    I haven’t heard of any other country official epidemiologist saying that they would change how the figures are reported and explicitly admitting intention to cut numbers by as much as four fifths , and slash the death rate to well below 1 per cent.

    Snap out from the “It’s Just the Flu!!” psychosis that the socialist Sweden is your libertarian Shangri-La.

  199. epebble says:
    @Wilkey

    There was no need for intelligence (the CIA kind); plenty of Chinese posted videos of dead and dying people. There were pictures of mass graves in the media. U.S. Government just thought this is a Chinese problem (they are “different” from us, more crowded etc.) and didn’t take it seriously.

    This is a CNBC report from January: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/29/coronavirus-latest-updates.html

    The intelligence needed was of different kind.

  200. @Gary in Gramercy

    Yea and they schemed against him constantly to the point where the FBI was tapping Kissinger’s phone on Nixon’s request. Also Nixon left his enemies at the acme of their power. Thankfully Ronald Reagan came along to clean up the damage. And I really like Nixon just like I really like Trump- it’s nice to actually have a high IQ so I can appreciate both. unlike certain posters here whose mid level IQ’s encourage them to incessantly pretend to be the smartest people in the room.

  201. @Steve Sailer

    Yes, here is the protocol:

    https://pfe-pfizercom-d8-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/2020-09/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol.pdf

    It says the first interim was scuttled for “operational reasons”, but as it reads now they should have done a second interim around 62. They could have done the analysis and not announced the results because neither the efficacy or futility boundary was crossed. This is common practices since knowing these results (that they are neither futile nor efficacious) could affect the conduct of the trial.

    In October the the Pfizer CEO said no results before election:

    https://khn.org/morning-breakout/vaccine-results-before-election-not-likely-pfizer-ceo-says/

    Some statisticians speculated that it was because they could not reach the first 32 events, that is people were not getting sick fast enough, but they had to have at least 62 events by then.

    It would be unusual for a company to slow walk any trial results. Since you never know exactly when the events (subjects getting Covid) will occur, you set your timeline from that date. For example, you say the CEO will know 24 hours after the calculations are complete. The people doing the analysis will try very hard not to be late.

    Once the CEO knows the results of a material event (an event that can affect the stock price) the press release has go out fairly quickly (2-5 business days I think) to meet SEC insider trading guidelines. They do not have to, but I am sure they told the FDA and probably the EU equivalent before the press release. In short, if the CEO or other high level executives knew several days before election day that could be a compliance problem. On election day maybe, but not in October.

  202. anon[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Patrick in SC

    Trump ran as an outsider. But having won, Trump decided to govern as an outsider. Entertaining, but it hasn’t happened since Andrew Jackson. The idea that a US President needs Twitter to communicate is remarkable. He had enormous power without a clue how to go about using it. The government is much bigger than the deep state. It is a permanent bureaucracy and wants to be told what to do. A President unfamiliar with power was enormously threatening. look…In 2016n I voted against the Bush Clinton uniparty. As well as the black fringe identity party. Not for a real estate speculator.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  203. Jack D says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Certain parts are cheaper if you get them from China on ebay because of some weird quirk in the postal treaty. I just ordered a thermostat for an electric kettle for $1. There’s lots of stuff that sells for $1 or sometimes even $1 Canadian, delivered. The downside is that it takes months to arrive and the broken item has to sit around until the part shows up. So a lot of small appliances I have in duplicate – 2 kettles, 2 coffee machines, etc. When the part shows up I fix the broken one and it becomes the spare and can be put in service when the other one (inevitably) breaks.

  204. @Wilkey

    The transmissibility wasn’t well known. It wasn’t known whether it would jump outside Wuhan. On the other hand, higher ups being fed intelligence on it did nothing.

  205. @Patrick in SC

    Why are the intelligence services and FBI so anti-Trump?

    Maybe because they’ve been covering up decades’ worth of malfeasance? Like when you have the regular auditor bought off, but then he gets appendicitis and someone else — someone not on the take — shows up for a surprise look at those books you’ve been cooking.

    • LOL: Joseph Doaks
  206. epebble says:
    @Jack D

    That is a big problem for the vulnerable population, like seniors and those with preexisting issues. How do they know if they are in the lucky 90% or the unlucky 10%? That is a big question when the consequence of being unlucky may include painful End of Life.

    • Replies: @Travis
  207. Anonymous[374] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous Jew

    The new CDC death tables have risk of death for my age group at slightly greater than my annual risk of death from traffic accidents.

    What is your age group? Does the CDC publish risk of death from traffic accidents?

    This is just like global warming.

    Poor comparison. Climate change, emissions, and other human pollution are a grave long-term threat.

  208. I am late to the post and I have not read all of the comments but yes amazing that Trump, who was elected because Americans HATE life time politicians, was submarined by politicians and big business. Of course this vacine is big news but too late to help Trump. I was thinking yesterday that the saddest woman in America must be michelle obama who is now just another irrelevant black woman when she was recently the most beloved black woman in the world. Well move over michelle, kamala is lighter and soon she will grace the cover of every American magazine. Harris will be polished and shined and primped and coifed until she looks like a cover girl, but unlike michelle she could soon be president. To me this is too funny, another halfrican black pushing a black woman aside.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    , @Thoughts
  209. @vinteuil

    Classical music may face cynical attacks because of its whiteness but from 40 years of personal interest I’d say it’s holding onto its niche popularity pretty well. Yes the audience looks old but it somehow keeps replenishing itself as we die off. The internet has made classical so much more accessible than it was 20 years ago, which gives me hope. In 1980 I had a bare handful of albums and there was one night of classical radio a week coming in from Tampa.

    Of course entertainments of all kinds are in deep trouble right now.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  210. @Buffalo Joe

    Right about Kamala, Buffalo — but “Dr” Jill will be elbowing fiercely to get most of those magazine covers and inspiring “exclusive” interviews while Joe is still on this side of the grass.

    It will all certainly contrast with the near-total media blackout on any Melania puff-pieces

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
  211. @Jack D

    Certain parts are cheaper if you get them from China on ebay because of some weird quirk in the postal treaty.

    Changing the terms with China alone probably wouldn’t end it. I’ve gotten packages sold by a Chinese vendor from the Philippines, Thailand and the stans. They are presumably transhipped by the container-load to third countries, where postmarks are tacked on. Or maybe the entire warehouse is in a third country, where labor costs are lower.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  212. Thoughts says:

    You wanna know why the Covid vaccine side effects are the same as the flu vaccine side effects?

    Because it is the flu vaccine!

  213. Thoughts says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    I don’t know why everyone ribs on Michelle

    Michelle is a super girly girl who occasionally likes to take swipes at white people

    Aka, like every other black woman around

    She doesn’t care, she’ll just go out and buy clothes or take a vacation to Tahiti

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  214. Precious says:

    My take- This didn’t hurt Trump all that much because he won the election by a lot of legal votes. Trump already told everyone that the vaccine was likely weeks away, and no one believes the fact checkers any more except the Trump haters who would never vote for Trump in the first place.

    If this announcement had been made beforehand, maybe it would have given Trump another few thousand legal votes in the current contested states…but that just means the Democrats in Atlanta, Detroit, Milwaukee and Philadelphia would have needed to spend some more time filling out the illegal ballots.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  215. anon[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ali Choudhury

    What’s likely is that there was a lot of Republican vote-splitting by suburban men told by their wives to go Biden or be evicted to the couch.

    Lol. Stop projecting.

    What’s most likely? Tens of thousands of fake ballots were hastily marked for Biden because there wasn’t enough time to continue to other offices. Time -motion, Pareto principle.

    So easy even a 150 year old man in Michigan can do it.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
  216. @utu

    Snap out from the “It’s Just the Flu!!” psychosis that the socialist Sweden is your libertarian Shangri-La.

    Anyone who imagines the home of Electrolux, Ericsson, Spotify, Volvo, H&M, IKEA, and ABBA, which delegates fire and emergency services to the Danish corporation Falck, is in any way “socialist” is the one who has to “snap out” of it.

    I’ll grant they’re not as in-your-face about their capitalism as the Danes are:

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @utu
  217. @Patrick in SC

    I ask because when I think “G Man” I don’t think “liberal” (as in Antifa, sexually ambiguous CNN anchors, college professor type, or blue haired gender studies major).

    I think there is a big disconnect between DC/swamp based FBI management types and flyover rank and file G-men (who skew Mormon to an astonishing degree). Most of the rot is in the first group who are Swamp creatures of the worst sort; ambitious, political ,legalistic , power-hungry etc. The post 9/11 shift in focus to anti-terror and ‘Joint Task Forces’ brought about a lot of cross pollination btwn the Feebs and other alphabet agencies like the CIA ( true scum of the earth like Clapper and his ilk). You will doubtlessly be shocked to learn, that the synergy thus created ,was not an ethical high tide that lifted all boats.

  218. @Jack D

    Jack, I’ve gotten part to an old vehicle from China because I could not find them anywhere else. These were aftermarket little plastic brackets to hold the window to the window regulator. Man, they were 1/2 the thickness of the originals! I really don’t know if that’s to save money directly, just on less materials in the molds, vs, just to allow for some later sales after they break in 1/4 the time that it took the original (Japanese, in this case) parts or, more paranoia-driven/nefarious, it’s all part of brilliant plan by Chinese cadres to make us spend so much time fixing shit, that they will be able to take over while everything is not working.

    More related to your point about the broken stuff lying around, doesn’t it make sense to buy a car tire repair kit well ahead of time, before you need it? Well, then, what happens when just the plastic parts seem to have a shelf life? See “DIY Tire Repair with Cheap China-made Crap” for a funny story.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  219. @Patrick in SC

    Why are the intelligence services and FBI so anti-Trump? I mean, someone like a James Comey at least appears to be a normal, heterosexual man. What gives?

    It is still possible there was something between Trump and Russia. Just the FBI and CIA could not reveal it because of secrecy. Trump did stonewall the Mueller investigation. Would not sit down and answer their verbal questions. And his written answers were pretty much variations on “I do not recall”. There was a great cost to fighting Mueller all the way. His report was not written until after the mid term elections, which voters used to cast doubt on Trump. What was so important to Trump to do that? And why did Roger Stone never talk to Mueller prosecutors? He was found guilty at a trial where he did not testify.

    • Replies: @Precious
  220. @Anonymous

    I was startled at some impressive responses and details he gave in many interviews surrounding negotiations with Gorbachev for example.

    Reagan gets credit for dealing with Gorbachev, but rarely for the presence of Gorbachev himself. Misha was his fourth Soviet leader. They were desperate.

    Had Jimmy Carter been reelected, do you really think Red Spot would have risen to his Jovian heights?

    No Ronnie, no Gorby.

  221. @JR Ewing

    I received a lot of heat over past 6 months for saying that “it’s all about the election”, yet Biden is declared the winner and an announcement of a vaccine comes the very next day?

    Was it all about the US election in every other country too?

  222. @Steve Sailer

    Yes, in the press release, they claim that while discussing getting rid of the 32 event interim with the FDA they got the 94 events. So that is the second interim. At the time of the discussions did Pfizer or the FDA know how many events they had? No, the samples were frozen. Also, they did not know the vaccine worked. So they did not know they had an October surprise. From the PR:

    “After discussion with the FDA, the companies recently elected to drop the 32-case interim analysis and cnduct the first interim analysis at a minimum of 62 cases. Upon the conclusion of those discussions, the evaluable case count reached 94 and the DMC performed its first analysis on all cases. The case split between vaccinated individuals and those who received the placebo indicates a vaccine efficacy rate above 90%, at 7 days after the second dose. This means that protection is achieved 28 days after the initiation of the vaccination, which consists of a 2-dose schedule. As the study continues, the final vaccine efficacy percentage may vary. The DMC has not reported any serious safety concerns and recommends that the study continue to collect additional safety and efficacy data as planned. The data will be discussed with regulatory authorities worldwide.”

    https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-vaccine-candidate-against

  223. northeast says:
    @Patrick in SC

    The deep state has a lot of secrets & Trump was not part of the in-group. Bill & Hillary alone stole millions with their foundation, and he knew it. He made noises about stopping the rapid replacement of white people with restrictions on legal & illegal immigration. He was against the cult of free trade.

    He was a mix of George Wallace & Pat Buchanan.

  224. @peterike

    You do realize that this makes it MORE likely that the votes were fraud, and not less?

    Why would they not put in fake dem house and senate votes if that is LESS suspicious? It would be win/win, getting more dems and making the fake ballots less suspicious looking.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  225. @Colin Wright

    I had similar experiences when I lived near the Imperial Capital. It’s a bit different here in flyover country.

    I bought an old Stihl weed eater at a yard sale for $20 condition unknown. Bought some gas, added some oil (it’s a 2 stroke), and it would not start.

    Took it to Gordon, a local who drives school buses for a living but is reputed to be a small engine wizard. He called me a week later and said it was ready. Gordon said it was a fine old machine and that he’d rebuilt the carb, and replaced the spark plug and fuel lines. I asked him how much and he said, “I’ve got about $35 in it.” I gave Gordon $40 when I picked it up. New Stihl machines are north of $200 and Gordon says they’re not near as good.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
  226. Well, they may have thought that if they released it before the election and were seen as helping Trump the media and democrat governors would demonize and blacklist the thing and they couldn’t sell it. They’d pull a hydroxychloroquine derangement on their vaccine and Pfizer would lose billions.

  227. @Ali Choudhury

    (magic fraud which affected the votes for president but not for the House and Senate on the same ballot)

    Yes, that’s because if a group of democratic hacks in the ‘hood have to suddenly fill out 20,000 blank ballots to change an election at 3am they don’t really have time to fill the whole thing out and instead just pencil in the Biden circle and move on to the next as fast as they can.

  228. Anonymous[380] • Disclaimer says:

    If I was personally given a choice, and both vaccines were equally effective, I’d go with the Oxford vaccine. I’m skeptical about anything coming out of the US nowadays.

    After what happened with the 737-MAX I wouldn’t trust anything certified by the US government until other countries have a look. Is the FDA as subject to regulatory capture as the FAA was?

  229. @Colin Wright

    Colin, I almost agree, but if you need a patented drug then it is hard to boycott the meds that might keep you alive. And big pharm is everyone’s boogey man. Stay safe.

  230. Anon[319] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: One of Portland’s black commie commissioners who talks “We’re-all-equal” but who really thinks she’s Queen Bitch of the Known Universe was so abusive to her Lyft driver that he cancelled her ride and she called the cops on him. Yes, the very cops she voted to defund. She wanted to get rid of them–except when she needs them to harass a poor guy just trying to make a living.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/11/portland-city-commissioner-jo-ann-hardesty-calls-911-refuses-to-get-out-of-lyft-car-after-driver-cancels-ride.html

    “The dispatcher repeatedly told Hardesty that what she described wasn’t a crime, that it was a civil matter, noting that the car was the driver’s property. Hardesty still asked police to respond.”

    Hey, if a social worker had responded, she probably would have slapped the social worker.

    The Queen Bitch had been gambling at a casino, which doesn’t surprise me. You can’t make some people classy no matter what.

  231. @Known Fact

    A vaccine as “a reparation on the down low”?

    Do you realize that you could single-handedly blow up Black Twitter with that?

    • Replies: @Known Fact
  232. Travis says:
    @epebble

    not sure why this is a big problem. The Flu vaccine is only about 20% effective for those over the age of 65 , yet 75% of the elderly still get vaccinated , despite the low efficacy for elderly people.

    while the vast majority of elderly Americans still get vaccinated against the flu, seniors represent the vast majority of flu hospitalizations and deaths.. While only 16% of the population is over the age of 65, they represent 90% of the flu fatalities each year despite having the highest vaccination rates.

    older people have weaker immune systems and do not responde well to vaccines, often failing to make antibodies after being vaccinated. This has been shown in flu, pneumonia and other vaccines.
    https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/why-flu-vaccines-dont-work-as-well-in-the-elderly

    • Replies: @BB753
  233. @Gary in Gramercy

    That’s cool, I’ve never blown up anything before — but how so? The vaccine isn’t the reparation, I mean cash (or Nikes, or custom rims) for agreeing to take the vaccine. And it would have to be done quietly or everyone else would want some stimulus payment for taking the shot as well

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  234. hhsiii says:

    My father-in-law from Belarus thinks it’s funny that in the US the dictator is the one who complains about illegal votes.

    • LOL: Buffalo Joe
  235. @anon

    TwoFiveFive, Bingo! I voted against hillary, not really for Trump. I am so sick of life time politicians that I could puke. It is painful to think that people actually voted for a harris presidency. Sad this new America. And, to your point about Trump and twitter, his obsessive need to immediately respond to every precieved slight was juvenile.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  236. JimDandy says:
    @Redman

    100% agree. And the way this knowledge is manifesting itself in me is that I am starting to hate my friends who keep drinking the Kool-Aid. The psychological process–wherein people find out what they are supposed to believe, and then actually believe it–is turning me into a very angry person.

  237. @Thoughts

    Thoughts, you too funny. Michelle can’t go shopping because White people ask her to get things down off the top shelf. Barack can’t go out because White guys toss him the keys to their car and tell to be careful parking it.

    • LOL: hhsiii
  238. e.272 says:
    @Known Fact

    I heard on a local radio news program today that 90% of blacks, here in the LA area, will not take the vaccine. “The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male” being the reason. And not a bad one. I wish blacks were just as skeptical about other government programs designed to help them.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  239. Neoconned says:
    @Anonymous

    Germans have been fairly friendly with the Turks for the better part of a century due to the fact most other Europeans hate Germany for 1 reason or the other…..anyway…..obviously they did this to “avoid interfering in the election.”

    By staying neutral they will probably be accused of collusion with Biden’s people….

  240. utu says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Actually Sweden has slightly larger Gini Index (more inequality) than Denmark. But it was Sweden throughout the Cold War that stood as an exemplar of the Middle Way between Communism and Capitalism that Sweden found a best compromise between the US and the USSR and the fact that Sweden was neutral not in NATO unlike Denmark enhanced this view around the world and most importantly among the Swedes who have a great proclivity for self adulation. But after the Cold War when the World reached the End of History when the Neoliebarlism was supposed to rule the world forever Sweden found itself out of step so its elites to accelerate Sweden’s march towards the Neoliberalism decided to destroy its social cohesion and communitarian attitudes by bringing lots of immigrants by taking advantage of Swedish communitarian empathy which they intend to destroy. Also Swedes who dabbed in eugenics ideas until the mid of the second half of 20th century were made to believe, around the time when many Jewish refugees after WWII and from Poland settled there, that their gene pool was stale so some enrichment of it would do them good.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  241. Anonymous[385] • Disclaimer says:
    @Known Fact

    Classical music may face cynical attacks because of its whiteness but from 40 years of personal interest I’d say it’s holding onto its niche popularity pretty well. Yes the audience looks old but it somehow keeps replenishing itself as we die off. The internet has made classical so much more accessible than it was 20 years ago, which gives me hope. In 1980 I had a bare handful of albums and there was one night of classical radio a week coming in from Tampa.

    What are the merits of classical music?

    • Replies: @Known Fact
  242. @Buffalo Joe

    Thoughts, you too funny. Michelle can’t go shopping because White people ask her to get things down off the top shelf. Barack can’t go out because White guys toss him the keys to their car and tell to be careful parking it.

    And Bill Clinton asks Barack to get them some coffee. Like a good boy.

  243. @Patrick in SC

    Why are the intelligence services and FBI so anti-Trump?

    Because those institutions are dominated by the same legacy ruling class, whose interests Trump had been challenging.

  244. clyde says:
    @Johnny Smoggins

    Thanks…….. I got some real laughs out of your link.

  245. Anon[319] • Disclaimer says:
    @vinteuil

    “The common white man” never listened to classical music even in its heyday. They preferred the popular tunes of their times. Classical music was always for the elite from the very beginning.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    , @Sebastian Hawks
  246. Jack D says:
    @Johann Ricke

    I’ve gotten Kazakhstan and UAE . Maybe USPS is cracking down on China so they are searching for other loopholes.

  247. Jack D says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Can’t buy the bike tube repair kits ahead because the little tube of rubber cement dries out.

    Just bought a tire pressure sensor and instead of saying “CHRYSLER” , if you look closely it is labeled “CHYBSLER” I kid you not. OTOH it’s 1/4th the cost of the dealer part.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @HammerJack
  248. @Precious

    Did Trump say WHICH vaccine was closest to applying for registration?

    Russia has already registered two vaccines.

    However it seems to me that the Pfizer vaccine may have limited utility because it has to be kept at ultra low temperatures, which very few nations are equipped to provide.

    On the other hand it does look like there are several other vaccines expected to apply for registration within the next several weeks.

  249. @notsaying

    I don’t have a link, but I am 95% sure I remember Anders Tegnel (the Swedish epidemiologist) remark in passing in an interview that there had been much higher rates among the immigrant populations in Sweden.

  250. @Buffalo Joe

    I voted for Trump too because I did not like Hillary. I voted for Obama for the same reason. But it was a massive mistake to vote for Trump who appeared to be running to the left of Hillary, or at least as a kind of independent, and then appeared on Twitter to tell several lies every single day, and failed to demonstrate any kind of international leadership.

    I don’t mind Harris though. she seems to have a sense of humor, and there are a lot of photographs of her laughing her head off. Also of the four principals representing the two parties, she seems like the one who is most likely to learn on the job. I would take her over Hillary any day, in any sense of the word take.

  251. @utu

    who have a great proclivity for self adulation

    LOL.

    Stale gene pool… is that when you get algae growing on your genes?

  252. @HammerJack

    Was just thinking that tonight after a walk through my brown city. The parasites, mostly Arab and Pakistani in this case, are simply living in the goodwill of Boomers, who built them nice clean apartments and continue to pay for the welfare, heating, and education of these people.

    Import the 3rd world, become the 3rd world, other than the small smart fraction (who mostly marry whites and move to white areas) they will quickly revert back to the standards of their home country – a thin veneer of whiteness is imposed on them currently as they do the bare minimum to not get arrested.

    Canada already has a deficit of hundreds of billions of dollars – and only getting worse. Unfortunately there is not much I can do, as you stated the majority of whites seem to think this a positive development. I just hope to live long enough to see the regression to the mean and collapse.

    People are not interchangeable economic units; demographics are destiny.

  253. @Jonathan Mason

    I don’t know why I haven’t added you to my commenters to ignore list yet, but I will post-haste. However, an advantage of this oversight is that…

    she seems to have a sense of humor, and there are a lot of photographs of her laughing her head off.

    …next time somebody says I wouldn’t oppose immigrants if they were coming from Europe, I have a clear example I can point to of someone who came from Europe who I clearly am not happy about having had immigrate.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  254. @Jonathan Mason

    Ah yes so all you care about is decorum. I’m happy for you that Biden (Harris) won so you don’t have to comically tug at your collar when foreigners ask you about Trump.

    Trump was never going to be “our guy” but his minuscule accomplishments are better than whatever the incoming administration has planned for us.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  255. @Buffalo Joe

    Can you imagine lending BHO the keys to your car? What would the car look like after he got through with it? Sandwich wrappers and countless cigarette butts everywhere, even wedged between the seats. Body damage from repeated fender-benders (“yellow lights are for losers!”). And the stale smell of cigarette smoke would require repeated shampooing of the car’s interior to ameliorate.

    On the other hand, you could sell it as a collector’s item: “driven by a former living President who wasn’t impeached.”

  256. @utu

    Why do you believe in nonsense? The graph that you linked to shows the total for first 10 months. Multiply it by 12/10 and you will get number larger than any in last 10 years.

    You apparently do not know how to do basic arithmetic, but more likely you are being purposely deceptive which is unfortunate. I stated that the death rate in 202o will be on par with the past ten years and it is on par. Just look at the link I provided. The straight statistical estimate would be a death rate of 90,942 in 2020 which is on par with the death rates of the past ten years and lower than the number of deaths in 2012, 2016, 2017 and 2018. I believe the number of deaths will be lower than this estimate because the death spike in 2020 happened in the Spring and is highly unlikely to be repeated in the last two months of the year.

    Check again.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/525353/sweden-number-of-deaths/

    I never said that COVID-19 was “Just The Flu” rather I said it was a serious disease, but not one out of line with severe flu outbreaks of the last fifty years. The data backs this up. The question is what is the best public policy response to a severe flu outbreak. The “socialists” in Sweden are preserving their freedom, their family relationships, their right to worship, the education of the youth and livelihood of small business people. All things that I wholly endorse.

  257. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    Just bought a tire pressure sensor and instead of saying “CHRYSLER” , if you look closely it is labeled “CHYBSLER” I kid you not. OTOH it’s 1/4th the cost of the dealer part.

    I once bought a pack of Sharpies that on closer inspection proved to be a pack of “Sharpeis” from China.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  258. Mr. Anon says:
    @Guy De Champlagne

    Why would they not put in fake dem house and senate votes if that is LESS suspicious? It would be win/win, getting more dems and making the fake ballots less suspicious looking.

    Two reasons I can imagine:

    1.) It takes more time, which you may not have if you’re stuffing a ballot box in the dead of night.

    2.) It doesn’t matter for the House races. This was happening in heavily black, heavily Democratic cities. The Democratic congressmen would win anyways. However, the votes for President get counted against the total for the whole state. Why not for the Senators? I don’t have an answer for that one. I can only refer back to reason 1.

  259. Mr. Anon says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I bought a Speed Queen a few years ago. Works great. It does have a brain-board in it, but it seems to be pretty robust. I liked that it had a stainless-steel basket and was made in Wisconsin.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  260. @Simon in London

    Trump hasn’t been defeated.

    • Replies: @Simon in London
  261. @Mr. Anon

    Look at it this way: you saved them from being part of some General Tso’s lunch special, so woof on ya.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  262. vinteuil says:
    @Anon

    “The common white man” never listened to classical music even in its heyday.

    In the house of “classical music” there are many mansions. Some “classical” composers (e.g., Handel, Liszt, Rossini) appealed to a very broad popular audience.

  263. @Known Fact

    I don’t explain jokes as a rule, but you’re an excellent commenter, so here goes the exception:

    Combining a mention of

    (1) vaccines (of which blacks are highly suspicious, in part because of the Tuskegee Experiment, to which the other reply to your comment alluded),

    (2) reparations (always a hot and welcome topic among blacks, and presumably on Black Twitter as well), and

    (3) “down low,” customarily used to refer to black men who — although outwardly straight and professing their heterosexuality — have sex with other men in secret, or “on the down low,” without informing their female partners of this predilection,

    is likely to send the more literal-minded Black Twitterati into paroxysms of “oh no, he dint!” For all we know, they’re liable to think the vaccine contains the AIDS virus (HIV), since it’s transmitted by you-know-how. Metaphor and allusion don’t generally work with that audience.

  264. @Desiderius

    Oceania probably didn’t win a stunning victory, either. It’s the media narrative I was talking about. Watching eg Sky News here in the UK, there was a huge ‘Rejoice! Rejoice!’ theme going on.

  265. @e.272

    The Tuskegee Study is pretty much the Emmett Till of Biomedical Research. Not only shall it never be forgotten, now that its political utility is clear we may assume an n-gram soon approaching infinity.

    • Replies: @Dacian Julien Soros
  266. Londoner says:

    I don’t think Trump has ever progressed from “would-be authoritarian” to the real thing. He certainly has all the basic authoritarian instincts, but nowhere near the attention to detail or self-discipline to make it actually happen.

  267. journey80 says:

    WHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHY would they do that, I wonder? ?? ???

  268. HenryA says:
    @Anon

    I would think that stealing a presidential election would be at the top of the list for things would trigger a civil war. Gun confiscation and forced vaccinations are already happening and other than the 2A guys and the anti-vaccers no one seems to care. Who knows, maybe most people won’t care about a stolen election.

    • Replies: @another fred
  269. Bill says:
    @Jack D

    You are assuming independence between the effect of the vaccine and how bad the disease would be without it. Clifford Brown is assuming negative correlation. There’s no obvious reason to prefer your assumption.

    In other words, the vaccine doesn’t increase the no symptom group from 80% to 90%, it increases it to 98%.

    That’s your assumption. You haven’t argued to that conclusion, though you seem to think you have.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  270. @Gary in Gramercy

    I’m going link-mad anyway, so why not? Gary, regarding General Tso, he was a real general, involved in the huge Taiping Rebellion. Colonel Sanders, though he was in the military when younger, was not a military Colonel, but just had the appellation given him by the Commonwealth of Kentucky. As far as the Chinese go, with the Colonel’s visage all over the place, they may be under the impression that Colonel Sanders led the American AVG flying materiel to Generalissimo Chiang Kai Shek over the hump, or possibly the guy that ordered the atom bombs to be dropped on Tokyo.

    See Superpower Battle of the Chicken Titans – Sanders v Tso.

  271. @Gary in Gramercy

    Thanks Gary for that deconstruction! I did warn that 17 hours in a mask on election day might cause me some cognitive damage — now even my own brief comments are too densely layered for me.

    Speaking of election day, folks, the Republican trying to flip NY 40 US Congress is ahead by 7,000 votes but with 30,000 absentees about to be counted, and most of these from the liberal side of the district.

  272. @HammerJack

    The reason why Tuskegee remains less debated than it should is that the “face” of the study, the nurse on the ground, was black too. The Politbureau can’t milk as much muh oppression.

  273. @Anonymous

    Just speaking on a personal level,
    1) Man does not live by metal alone — I can happily read or even doze off to Arch Enemy or Desultory, but classical really works better for reading, writing, aimless meditations or post-prandial digestion
    2) It’s the one musical genre my wife and I happily share — she does not rock any harder than oldies like that one Spencer Davis hit
    3) 300 years of the stuff all adds up to one of mankind’s lasting and crowning achievements — and there’s a gazillion hours of it free on YouTube or internet radio for you to try

  274. The covid19 increases human life expectancy. Viz:

    If everyone alive today lived to the average age of death attributed to BULLSHIT-2020 and then died of the sniffles, average human life expectancy would go UP.

    Imagine, if you will, a virus so deadly that if everyone’s prognosis were the same, human life expectancy would increase.

    Um no vaccine is needed, diaperfaces.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  275. Jack D says:
    @Bill

    I don’t think he was assuming negative correlation. He was just mixing apples (“80% of Covid victims have no symptoms”) with oranges (the vaccine is 90% effective). Whatever the end result is, you can’t directly compare 80% to 90% as he did.

  276. BB753 says:
    @Travis

    So why bother having the elderly vaccinated? It’s business, right?

    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
  277. @Anon

    I remember as a kid my mom used to listen to what she called “classical music” FM 100 which was actually easy listening with symphony type musicians playing renditions of light pop music like Gordon Lightfoot songs, Mac the Knife, Valley of the Dolls, etc. These stations have pretty much all vanished as the generation they appealed to has passed already. Even the JFK era pop tunes are now relegated to AM radio for the elderly Silents who are not enjoying their final days in this globalist monstrosity.

  278. Jack D says:
    @Mr. Anon

    The old electro-mechanical timer switches went bad too (a fairly common failure mode for older washers and dishwashers) so I’m not sure that a well built electronic timer is any worse. As long as they will sell you a replacement part for a decent price it really makes no difference whether it is electronic or electro-mechanical.

    If your brain board starts acting flaky, try unplugging and replugging the machine. Lots of computer faults are fixed just by rebooting and if not you have nothing to lose. Also not a bad idea to plug anything with electronics (which means pretty much everything nowadays) into a surge suppressor instead of directly into the wall.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Anonymous
  279. @Gary in Gramercy

    Confirmed about blacks and vaccines. There are a bunch of them at work and they all come up with paranoid excuses not to get the free annual flu shot the company provides even bringing a nurse in to the employee lounge to do it right there and then. Then again a lot of whites spew this crackpot stuff too, even liberal helicopter mom types who think it causes Autism.

  280. @Patrick in SC

    Why are the intelligence services and FBI so anti-Trump? I mean, someone like a James Comey at least appears to be a normal, heterosexual man. What gives?

    Like most things there are several forces at work.

    I think more than anything, people in government have a distinct sense of their role in holding back chaos and, unlike populists, doubt that our order would survive a “shake-up”. Trump represents that “shake-up”. He is an angry man standing up in a overloaded boat fomenting mutiny.

    Their attitudes are shaped by constant indoctrination that casts them in the role of “The Men In Black,” except the threat comes from within, not without.

  281. @Rosie

    “All else equal, the side that plays hardball wins.”

    This has been obvious since forever, but the Republican party represents the Chamber of Commerce and playing hardball is bad for business. The 2020 summer of riots provides an example. Democrats condoned, even encouraged the rioters who mostly faced no consequences, meanwhile the big corporations boarded up their storefronts, filed their insurance claims, and contributed to Black Lives Matter. The innocent citizens and small business owners got no help from Republicans, big media, or big tech, not even moral support — they must have been racist and deserved everything they got!

  282. @HenryA

    Who knows, maybe most people won’t care about a stolen election.

    Not as long as the money keeps flowing.

  283. Z-Hedge reporting Pfizer chief Bourla just sold 62 percent of his company stock Tuesday, some $5.6 million worth and nearly “top-ticking” its new 52-week high. (Apologies if anyone has mentioned this and I missed it)

    What might that suggest …

  284. Precious says:
    @Steve Richter

    It is still possible there was something between Trump and Russia. Just the FBI and CIA could not reveal it because of secrecy.

    ^This is false. If there had been something between Trump and Russia, it would either have been in Mueller’s report or it would have been leaked. Everything that could be made to look damaging to Trump was leaked by someone on Mueller’s team.

    Trump did stonewall the Mueller investigation. Would not sit down and answer their verbal questions. And his written answers were pretty much variations on “I do not recall”

    ^This is false. Trump provided full cooperation with the Mueller investigation. He didn’t need to sit down and provide verbal answers because everything was provided in written format or was already documented elsewhere. And no, those answers were not just variations on “I do not recall”.

    There was a great cost to fighting Mueller all the way. His report was not written until after the mid term elections, which voters used to cast doubt on Trump. What was so important to Trump to do that?

    ^This is true except for the cost. Trump ended up benefiting from the results of the mid-term elections. Paul Ryan and his little exodus left, so Trump no longer had so many Republicans fighting him in the House. And the Democrats proceeded to let their freak fly and they paid for it in last week’s election. Trump didn’t need the House, he just needed to keep the Senate so he could keep ramming federal judge appointments through.

    And why did Roger Stone never talk to Mueller prosecutors? He was found guilty at a trial where he did not testify.

    Roger Stone had nothing of value to tell Mueller. Roger Stone claimed he was very important and the go-between for Wikileaks, but he was convicted for lying about that. Which means he wasn’t important because the prosecutor proved it beyond a reasonable doubt.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  285. Mr. Anon says:

    Why Did Pfizer and FDA Agree to Not Release the News of the Vaccine’s Success in October as the Original Protocol Would Have Required?

    Could this have had something to do with it?

    Pfizer’s CEO Dumps 62% Of His Stock On COVID Vaccine Announcement

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/pfizers-ceo-dumps-60-his-stock-covid-vaccine-announcement

  286. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    Yes, all good advice. The board on my dishwasher (A whirlpool) started to get flaky after about five years, but I found a number of videos on Youtube that showed how to reboot them by pressing various key sequences. That kept it running for awhile longer.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  287. @Jack D

    Who installed them for you? Is there an independent shop willing to do that, with customer-supplied counterfeits?

    I’d find that hard to believe, but I’d like to because my TPMS sensors are suddenly failing and the dealer wants a mint to replace them.

    The factory warranty expired two months ago, natch.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  288. Jack D says:
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    This is wrong because average life expectancy is measured at birth and lots of people (in fact half) die before they reach the age of their life expectancy.

    But say you are among the lucky half and make it to 79. According to the life expectancy tables, you should expect around 9 more years. So if the average age of a Covid victim is say 81, Covid hasn’t increased their life expectancy by 2 years, it has shortened it by 7 (on a first pass analysis). However, this is probably wrong too because Covid is selective – it doesn’t kill the average 81 year old, it kills mostly the weakest ones who were probably going to die in the next year or two anyway (along with a few of the above average ones). So the really number of life years lost is probably less than a simple analysis gives.

  289. Jack D says:
    @Mr. Anon

    A lot of these boards are full blown (but low powered*) computers but with very limited options for input (just the buttons that you press for wash, rinse, etc.) and output ( usually just some kind of countdown timer or maybe even just a row of LED lights under the buttons). But you can sometimes “talk” to them and put the machine into some kind of test or diagnostic mode by pressing some secret sequence of buttons and get results by reading the numeric codes or sequence of blinking lights.

    *still maybe more powerful than the computers that were on the Apollo capsules

  290. Jack D says:
    @Precious

    And why did Roger Stone never talk to Mueller prosecutors?

    It’s bad enough that lying to Congress is a crime (the crime for which Stone was convicted). Did you want them to get him for lying to a Federal agent also? The best way not to lie in a way that will get you in trouble with the law is not to talk at all – if you don’t say anything at all then you can’t possibly be lying. Rule #1 is NEVER talk to the police or prosecutors. ESPECIALLY never talk to a Federal agent. The question is not why didn’t Stone speak to the Mueller prosecutors, it is why anyone in their right mind would ever do so?

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  291. @Jack D

    Rule #1 is NEVER talk to the police or prosecutors. ESPECIALLY never talk to a Federal agent. The question is not why didn’t Stone speak to the Mueller prosecutors, it is why anyone in their right mind would ever do so?

    Stone’s not a dumb guy. I think he fell into the trap of people who are too smart for their own good. They think they can talk their way out of anything. Forgetting that this is a game where their interrogators hold all the cards.

  292. Jack D says:
    @HammerJack

    Absolutely. Any independent tire shop should be able to do this for you. I would not pay more that $15/tire maximum for installation. They are not counterfeit. They are “aftermarket”. Aftermarket parts have existed as long as cars have existed.

    What kind of car do you have? Some sensors are self programming and some require a gizmo to mate the car to the sensor or some sequence of button pushing in your car. Every tire shop has the gizmo. For the ones that are self programming, you could literally change the sensor in your driveway if you are capable of changing a tire and were so inclined.

    Generally speaking, never take your car to the dealer unless it’s for a warranty repair.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @HammerJack
  293. Corvinus says:
    @Richard of Melbourne

    “If the vaccine’s success had been announced before election day, it would forever be tainted with the suspicion that it was rushed out for Trump’s benefit. Only the desperate or foolhardy would use such a dangerous product (apart from anything else, it would probably turn its users’ skin orange).”

    Except the vaccine has yet to be declared a success. It merely shows promise. Regardless, you make a point that managed to escape iSteve’s NOTICING.

    But since it has now been announced in the post-Trump era, we can all rest assured that the vaccine is on the up-and-up, and there is no malarkey about its efficacy and safety.”

    No, it remains promising. Nothing has changed about its status.

    Interesting how Mr. Sailer is so up in arms about something that should have been released in his view. Ah, but that is selective outrage and manufactured narrative.

  294. @Jack D

    Thanks. But don’t you have to break down the tire to get at the TPMS sensor? Changing a tire is easy if you can keep the tire on the wheel. But the sensor is inside the tire space, so to speak. It’s a euro car.. Rather not say which brand.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  295. Jack D says:
    @HammerJack

    Yes you do have to break down the tire but not completely. You have to remove the valve core to let all the air out and then you can use a 2×4 and a block of wood (or a car jack) to press the tire away from the rim in the area of the valve. Just enough to break the seal and allow you to get your hand in. You shouldn’t need to rebalance because you won’t move the position of the tire on the rim. There are youtube videos. When you are done, a little soapy water and the tire will reseat itself when you air it. Or again you could pay a tire shop $15/tire to do this.

    If you want the sensor for your car, just go on ebay and type in your make model and year, e.g. 2016 BMW TPMS Sensor (or better yet get the exact part # ).

    E.g. https://www.ebay.com/itm/One-TPMS-Tire-Pressure-Monitor-Sensor-For-BMW-1ER-F20-3ER-F30-4ER-X5-F15-433MHz/224197889576?fits=Year%3A2016%7CMake%3ABMW&hash=item34333c4e28:g:NJsAAOSwKF9fiqRn

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-4pcs-OEM-6855539-NEW-for-BMW-Tire-Pressure-Monitoring-System-TPMS-Sensor/293826821502?fits=Year%3A2016%7CMake%3ABMW&hash=item4469717d7e:g:WKkAAOSwTuxfrGac

    Again, some sensors are self programming and others aren’t – usually the listing will say if programming is required.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  296. MEH 0910 says:

  297. @Jack D

    Thanks. Yes I’ll have a tire shop do it but I’m sure it’ll be vastly cheaper than the dealer.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  298. Jack D says:
    @HammerJack

    Absolutely, especially if you are replacing all 4. A set of 4 aftermarket sensors on ebay are usually in the ballpark of $40 depending on what kind of car that you have. The dealer ones can be $60 or $120 each depending on the brand.

    As far as I can tell, most of the sensors appear to be very similar like they come from the same OEM but the same $10 sensor might be marked up to $60 by Chrysler and $120 if it has a BMW stamp on it. There’s no difference in the item, just in how much they want to mark it up. Very often you can get the OEM part (which is the IDENTICAL part but just marked Siemens or Bosch without the BMW logo on it) for maybe 1/2 the price. The little magic Roundel doubles the price. Now Siemens and Bosch etc. don’t have elves in the Black Forest making their car parts anymore – they contract with factories in China like everyone else. When that factory is done making the BMW parts and the Bosch parts for the day, they change the silk screen and make unbranded parts which go for 1/4 to 1/8th of the BMW part, but they are all the same damn thing. Or else there is some other factory that reverse engineers the part.

    • Replies: @Bernard
  299. @Reg Cæsar

    “The scenery of politics is ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. Yet I must report all this as serious. This is the strain on me. That I must be serious, and I must exhaust myself trying to find out what is true and what is fraud and yet, even after I know, I must take them both seriously and write of them both as if I did not know the true distinctions between them.”

    Thanks for this. Most journalists and pundits must suffer significantly from cognitive dissonance, but apparently their overblown salaries compensate them adequately for their loss of self respect.

  300. @BB753

    “So why bother having the elderly vaccinated? It’s business, right?”

    Right. Fear mongering and false promises — like Biden’s Covid plan.

  301. @Jonathan Mason

    “appeared on Twitter to tell several lies every single day”

    I’m constantly reading this charge, but the “lies” are never documented. Ignoring Trump’s tendency to over generalize and exaggerate — something he has in common with every politician — I find Trump to be rather more honest and forthright than most.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  302. @Joseph Doaks

    That’s a good point. He’s fast and loose with his language and has always been. But on third-rail topics he speaks straighter than just about any politician in memory.

    Which is most likely why his “fast and loose” language is always pounced upon by the Forces of Reaction, in their endless efforts to discredit and silence anyone who dares to expose any of their ‘third rail’ hypocrisy.

  303. Anonymous[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Electronics don’t last long in vibrating/shaking environments. The solder weakens and contacts break.

    You can often fix this by putting the PCB in the oven. Seriously. The heat causes the solder to reflow and reestablish broken contacts.

  304. @Jim Don Bob

    ‘I had similar experiences when I lived near the Imperial Capital. It’s a bit different here in flyover country…’

    To be fair, it varies. Back in the San Francisco Bay Area, I had a shadetree mechanic who charged a notional $60/hour (which, for the Bay Area was pretty good).

    So I took my car to him for some problem I didn’t want to figure out, and when I pick it up, he says ‘$38.’

    S0 I protest. When he starts justifying himself, I have to explain I was pulling his leg.

  305. @Achmed E. Newman

    I really thought it would never work again but would be a good learning experience.

    I did something like this, once upon a time, with a 5 speed transmission from a Chevy S10. (Borg-Warner T-5) So many parts. For a spell I thought it would never work again…

    But, eventually, I got it back together…
    And it worked!

    I wish I could have cleaned the contacts instead…

    Just a couple weeks ago, the wipers on my car quit working one rainy night on my way home from work. (Along with the stereo, windows, seats, sunroof, clock and some of the interior lights.)

    I cleaned the contacts on all of my fuses and relays to no avail…
    And I resat my computer modules… (My car is 30 years old)

    After a little reading I thought the “general module” (61351379739) crapped out…
    So I ordered a replacement…

    But when the package arrived it was the “relay module” (61351379741) instead…
    The seller sent the wrong module… (Damn it!…)
    (Wipers are kinda nice to have. Especially in the rain.)

    So, while I waited for the right module (which finally came today) I read through the wiring diagram again. I noticed there was another fuse, a strip fuse that I didn’t clean…

    When I opened up it’s case, it was not cleanable, because it was cracked right through…
    But, I happened to have a new 80A strip fuse just like it for a different project…

    Worked like a champ…

    I’m going to keep the extra modules anyway, (if they work)…
    It’s getting harder to find some of these old parts…

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  306. @Jack D

    Certain parts are cheaper if you get them from China on ebay because of some weird quirk in the postal treaty.

    I too have noticed this…

    You can get one item from the U.S. for $5 or you can get 10 of them from China for $4…

    Same cheap made in China part(s)…
    But you’ll have to wait… If you have the luxury of waiting…

    (I’ve noticed that things often arrive much quicker if they’re shipped from Hong Kong.)

    The downside is that it takes months…

    But when it does finally arrive it’s like a pleasant surprise…

  307. MEH 0910 says:
    @Ali Choudhury

  308. Bernard says:
    @Jack D

    As far as I can tell, most of the sensors appear to be very similar like they come from the same OEM but the same $10 sensor might be marked up to $60 by Chrysler and $120 if it has a BMW stamp on it. There’s no difference in the item, just in how much they want to mark it up.

    I would say that is mostly true, but with some caveats. You’re paying for consistency with original parts. If OEM parts are identical 80% of the time, the 20% that remains will result in doing the same job again, or at best earlier. Since labor is often the costliest part of a repair (whether your own, or when you pay someone), it is often not worth the savings. A good mechanic will know where there is a difference, a DIYer probably won’t.

  309. @Adam Smith

    Hey Adam, I just saw this reply. That’s a nice job with your tranny on the truck! That’s all bigger stuff and heavier duty, so in one way it’s easier as there are no tiny plastic parts that can just snap anytime and make the whole job a waste. However, with the tranny, you had more at stake than me with my (worst case) $75(?) cordless driver (replacement cost, though the problem is getting one that will last like that Bosch has).

    I have a Ford that is really a pretty solid car, but it has electrical glitches. I got a body control module and an engine control module, both easy to get at, and why not at $150 or so each. No help, though.

    It was not the same car, but I ended up with no wipers driving through downtown Seattle one time. What do you know, it was raining. I had to stick my head out the window. Other electric stuff was the least of my worries.

    I call that an “inline fuse”. I am glad you found that one. Old cars can be fun, but, yeah, you need at least 3 to make sure you can always get around … say to get to the store or P.O. to return the wrong stuff.

    • Replies: @Adam Smith
  310. @Achmed E. Newman

    Thanks Achmed. Fortunately there were no tiny plastic parts, but it was still quite a puzzle…

    I didn’t have much at stake as I bought the truck for $400. I thought it would be a good learning experience to rebuild a transmission. After the transmission rebuild and a quick rattle can paint job I sold it for $900. I didn’t make any money on the project, but at least I learned a few things about how a transmission works.

    Some fords are pretty solid. (Some of them are rebranded mazdas.) Lots of little things can cause electrical gremlins. Have you tried cleaning all your fuses and relays with a wire brush? (It doesn’t take that long.) Maybe you have an inline fuse hiding out somewhere with the start of a hairline crack. My fuse must have been going for sometime, I could hear a tiny bit of alternator whine through the stereo, but I thought it was caused by some of the ground straps getting old. The new fuse cured the alternator whine. (Oddly enough the whine was only present when the headlights were off.)

    Rain in Seattle? Weird.
    Sorry to hear you had to stick your head out the window. That does not sound like fun.

    I usually call it an inline fuse too. I’m glad I found it. For a few days it was blinking in and out, (stuff would sometimes work, other times not) and I learned that when the modules are not powered you cannot unlock the car with the key from the outside. Not sure what I would have to do to get in, I suppose I could use a slim jim. The first fuse lasted 30 years so I should be good for awhile, but I bought a few extras and I’ll keep an eye on it in the future. I don’t want to get locked out.

    My old e34 has been very good to me but some old cars are like Jaguar’s, you need 3 of them if you want to go somewhere.

    Bosch stuff is (or used to be) very high quality. Do you know that 92% of Bosch is owned by Robert Bosch Stiftung, a charitable institution? 7% is owned by the Bosch family and the rest by Robert Bosch GmbH. Bosch is one of the largest “charities” in the world.

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