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I sometimes mention the obvious distinction between The Atlantic Monthly on paper for grownups and TheAtlantic.com with its proliferation of intern-written hot takes on “Last Night’s Episode of ‘The Handmaid’s Tale’ Reminded Me of My Feelings About My Hair.”

The Atlantic’s editor has noticed it too.

From Mediaite:

The Atlantic Editor Under Fire for Saying Writers Who Can Pen Long Features are ‘Almost Exclusively White Males’
By Ken Meyer Jun 6th, 2019, 2:49 pm

Jeffrey Goldberg, Editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, was raked across the coals on Thursday after media observers noticed his recent suggestion that white men make up pretty much the only demographic of writers who can produce super-extensive cover stories.

Goldberg’s comments came in an Atlantic piece about how the organization has shaken things up and put women in many more editorial positions than ever before. As he and Executive Editor Adrienne LaFrance took questions on where The Atlantic still needs work, Goldberg offered this take on how hard it is to find people who can write decent, 10,000 word cover stories:

We continue to have a problem with the print magazine cover stories — with the gender and race issues when it comes to cover story writing. [Of the 15 print issues The Atlantic has published since January 2018, 11 had cover stories written by men. —Ed.]

It’s really, really hard to write a 10,000-word cover story. There are not a lot of journalists in America who can do it. The journalists in America who do it are almost exclusively white males. What I have to do — and I haven’t done this enough yet — is again about experience versus potential. You can look at people and be like, well, your experience is writing 1,200-word pieces for the web and you’re great at it, so good going!

Goldberg’s remarks have drawn criticism on Twitter, with a lot of people unimpressed with his idea that being a woman somehow renders one unfit for writing cover stories:

Is Goldberg implying that Ta-Nehisi Coates didn’t really write his big stories in The Atlantic? Back in 2015, I pointed out that TNC 18,000 word cover story in The Atlantic on “The Enduring Myth of Black Criminality” didn’t read much at all like his bestselling (but pretty dotty) memoir.

When Goldberg became editor of The Atlantic, he inherited some fine veteran female writers, such as Caitlyn Flanagan.

But the Current Year isn’t doing much to hone female talent since the reigning ideology merely encourages women to indulge their pettiest, most boring feminine tendencies: e.g., Let’s Talk About Me. Sure, that can generate a lot of clickbait junk, but it is bad for doing serious work.

 
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  1. Anonymous[102] • Disclaimer says:

    Is Goldberg implying that Ta-Nehisi Coates didn’t really write his big stories in The Atlantic?

    Maybe it implies that what Coates submitted was unacceptable as written and required heavy editing and additional research?

  2. Lot says:

    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/3/18647615/coming-out-transgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff

    The writing in the article is so awful I wonder if Goldberg and the sexist-toward-lab-mice scientists may have a point.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    I can only respond with what should be the official vid clip for GRIDS month here at iSteve:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vkF-k56b2g

    , @anon
    It's instructive to look at these photos on the 75th anniversary of D-Day. Oh how American culture has changed.
    Only a long and bitter war will restore good character to this country.
    , @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    Why is this head tilted abnormally (about 20 degrees to the right)? Did the photographer tell her/him to do so? Do fashion photographers think a tilted head looks more beautiful than an upright head?
    , @Tusk
    As they say "If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything." and that is exactly what happens to these nihilistic NPCs of modern society who have no real value besdies those ascribed to them.
    , @Daniel H
    They are really ratcheting it up, aren't day. No slowing down, Faster and faster. This mania has to exhaust itself at some point, doesn't it?
    , @Zedrik
    Why!?
    Twice in one day I have been subjected to extremely ugly men trying to be even uglier, weirder females.
    You don't HAVE to include the pic, just leave a link with a warning.

    I'm in Australia, so d'ya know what time it is? Dinner time. Gee, thanks for the appetizer mate.
    , @WowJustWow
    "The Handmaid’s Tale debuted in April 2017, and its arrival caused an instant sensation. The show was a beneficiary of timing; though its first season was largely produced before the 2016 presidential election and entirely written before that event, it tapped into a vein of catastrophic thinking that has only become more pronounced among certain segments of the left. Its story of a world where women are subjugated and held captive to be ritually raped once per month in hopes of producing a child carried with it an unspoken warning: Here was the end result of unchecked theocratic rule! Beware!"

    ... And it gave me a huge boner to think of myself as one of those women.
    , @Anon
    This is so disturbing to me. He, ur, she has a wife, who is tweating their "journey" and affirming "tall wife." She seems to be full Stockholm. Culturally, being also a New York-based writer, she would be committing social and career suicide by not being supportive.

    So all of a sudden she's a lesbian, no strap-on required, because her wife has a dick down there somewhere under his panniculus. They are late 30s, to late for wifey to divorce and have kids with a guy. Pretty soon the discussion will turn to, Let's have kids. Sit on my frontpole. My ladynuggets have all you need to get knocked up. (He writes about dreams where he's driving around with his future daughter.)

    Oh God in heaven, what is going on down here?
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Sex change should have the same pre-conditions are bariatric surgery--first you have to spend some time in the gym and lose weight--to make sure it isn't your abdominal fat twisting your hormones or self-confidence into making you feel like a pussy.
    , @Mr. Anon

    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale,..............
     
    If he was watching A Handmaid's Tale, maybe he wasn't really straight.
    , @fish

    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.
     
    Do any of the narcissistic idiots ever stop to think that we've already heard it! We don't care about your.....ahem.....hobby!


    Go ahead, have fun with your spiffy new vagina!


    Society barely notices anymore!

    , @William Badwhite
    Chris Farley, followed by Chris Farley in a wig and make-up. Good grief
    , @Sextus Empiricus
    I read about half that article.

    Then I took a shower.

    Then I had a shot of Ukrainian vodka from the freezer.

    Then I took another shower.
    , @Gunner
    Isnt that the same dope who wrote something for the AV Club on how he and his wife were hundreds of thousands in debt?
    , @Thea
    This whole trans movement is surely some sort of joke to see how far these people will go in support of being tolerant. It’s like when Spy magazine convinced some random passerbys to dress in pink bunny suits and chant “ hey hey ho ho red meat has to go” outside of a make up factory.
  3. WOMEN HAVE BECOME WORSE….PERIOD.

    Not just journalists, but women, in general, are out of control, losing it, sinking into the gutter.

    All because of feminism and VAWA, which teaches them that the legal system is a joke.

    So they are turning to crime, including violent crime, in droves. Turning to drugs:

    https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/White-women-addicted-incarcerated-and-overlooked-12910138.php

    Women evolved on one factor only–beauty. They do not have the brain to take care of themselves, to know right from wrong, and need a man to take charge of their life, which man power has been destroyed by the liberals, turning women loose into the fire of self destruction.

    • Replies: @HammerJack

    Women evolved on one factor only–beauty. They do not have the brain to take care of themselves, to know right from wrong, and need a man to take charge of their life
     
    Though I really hate to take the side of feminists in any dispute, I feel constrained to point out that most men today can barely manage their own lives, much less anyone else's.
    , @Flip
    "The nobler and more perfect a thing is, the later and slower is it in reaching maturity. Man reaches the maturity of his reasoning and mental faculties scarcely before he is eight-and-twenty; woman when she is eighteen; but hers is reason of very narrow limitations. This is why women remain children all their lives, for they always see only what is near at hand, cling to the present, take the appearance of a thing for reality, and prefer trifling matters to the most important. It is by virtue of man’s reasoning powers that he does not live in the present only, like the brute, but observes and ponders over the past and future; and from this spring discretion, care, and that anxiety which we so frequently notice in people. The advantages, as well as the disadvantages, that this entails, make woman, in consequence of her weaker reasoning powers, less of a partaker in them. Moreover, she is intellectually short-sighted, for although her intuitive understanding quickly perceives what is near to her, on the other hand her circle of vision is limited and does not embrace anything that is remote; hence everything that is absent or past, or in the future, affects women in a less degree than men. This is why they have greater inclination for extravagance, which sometimes borders on madness. Women in their hearts think that men are intended to earn money so that they may spend it, if possible during their husband’s lifetime, but at any rate after his death."

    Schopenhauer "On Women"
  4. as to why, well, generally the first women to enter a traditionally male profession are the most competent ones…and then, after a while the rest come along

  5. @Lot
    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/3/18647615/coming-out-transgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff

    http://atxfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Panelist-Todd-VanDerWerff.jpg

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/192597/emily-cropped-small.0.jpg


    The writing in the article is so awful I wonder if Goldberg and the sexist-toward-lab-mice scientists may have a point.

    I can only respond with what should be the official vid clip for GRIDS month here at iSteve:

  6. It’s really, really hard to write a 10,000-word cover story… The journalists in America who do it are almost exclusively white males.

    Obviously, what he really meant was “the evil of white males knows no bounds, they have secured for themselves all of the best feature writer jobs. We must promote more women at all levels of journalism!” [applause]

    There should be some sort of “Political Correctness Checker” that could take care of this problem automatically.

  7. Anon[256] • Disclaimer says:

    Is this different from this story in Niemanlab?

    Promoting based on potential: How The Atlantic is putting a lot more women in charge

    “The only way to put women in leadership is to do it for the first time.”

    https://www.niemanlab.org/2019/06/promoting-based-on-potential-how-the-atlantic-is-putting-a-lot-more-women-in-charge/

    In 2016, women made up just 17 percent of editorial leadership at The Atlantic. Today, women account for 63 percent of newsroom leaders (see the masthead here; though this story focuses on the editorial side, there are a lot of women on the business side too). In 2018, 75 percent of new newsroom hires were women.

    This isn’t an accident. The Atlantic — like other news organizations that have sought to diversify their staffs, though there’s still a ton of work to be done — has been intentional about hiring more women and people of color under the leadership of Jeffrey Goldberg, who was appointed editor-in-chief in 2016.

    They came out the same day and they are Jekyll and Hyde sides of Goldberg?

    • Replies: @HammerJack

    In 2018, 75 percent of new newsroom hires were women... there’s still a ton of work to be done
     
    Right? It's like the diversity deal where no cohort is considered sufficiently diverse until it's 100% black.

    Logical conundrums simply don't exist for these people.

    , @stillCARealist
    So they specifically don't hire men. Got it. I guess that men would cease to bother applying to such places since they know they're not even going to be considered (unless they've switched sides).

    Do you suppose this is similar to when blacks say, "Well, there's no one there who looks like me so I guess I wouldn't be wanted"?

    What about when an American kids goes to a university engineering department and all the professors and grad students are Asian foreigners? Will he get the idea that he's not truly welcome?

    Exclusive clubs seem to be part of human nature because I see them everywhere. Oh what to do.
  8. @Lot
    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/3/18647615/coming-out-transgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff

    http://atxfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Panelist-Todd-VanDerWerff.jpg

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/192597/emily-cropped-small.0.jpg


    The writing in the article is so awful I wonder if Goldberg and the sexist-toward-lab-mice scientists may have a point.

    It’s instructive to look at these photos on the 75th anniversary of D-Day. Oh how American culture has changed.
    Only a long and bitter war will restore good character to this country.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    Dovetails with a lot of longer term thought I--and a lot of us--have had …

    I was watching "The Pacific" on Amazon yesterday--the epipsode was on Okinawa--and i had a thought that perhaps the development of nuclear weapons is a big part of what is destroying the West?

    (And this is coming from a guy who has basically been in the "nukes are great!" camp my whole life.)

    Nuclear weapons have at some deep level obviated the core role/responsibility of men to do battle to protect their nation/civilization. If nukes didn't exist, and we constantly trained all young men to be ready to do battle in a higher tech version of World War II, would we be anywhere near this nutty? Especially about men and women? I think the reality of nukes--that ultimately our "protection" is push-button and doesn't rely on male strength, aggression, fortitude--has filtered down through our society, our consciousness and badly distorted women's perception of themselves and men.
    , @Digital Samizdat
    Given how things have turned out since the war, I frankly wish it had been the Germans liberating us, rather than us 'liberating' the French.
  9. Anon[256] • Disclaimer says:

    There is some serious Sailer’s Law style hot takes now by female web journalists. “The most hysterical articles by female journalists tend to be about employment opportunities lost to men, but which, Come the Revolution, will all flow to female journalists themselves, who can then write more highly compensated hysterical articles about men. And hair.”

  10. Hmmmmmm. Is writing 10,000 word articles for The Atlantic like coding, engineering, construction, and stable empire-building? You know, doing something very boring over and over again, with a high degree of accuracy, waiting a while for the payoff?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    10,000 words seems awfully chatty and possibly even too familiar with the help.
    , @South Texas Guy

    Hmmmmmm. Is writing 10,000 word articles for The Atlantic like coding, engineering, construction, and stable empire-building?
     
    Kind of. i can tell you from experience that the women writers I worked with would write an 18 inch story in 40 inches. Women, for the most part, can't break down a boring subject (flood insurance rates, for example) and make it short and somewhat punchy. None of them could do 10k words and make it interesting. Not saying it's not possible, but like higher math, it's rare. (btw, not that I can do high math, I hate it).
  11. OT: Google is now reminding everyone that the Women’s Soccer World Cup tournament is underway, and don’t they deserve equal mention?

    Of course, this is a good time to remember that in 2016, the Australian Women’s National Soccer Team, the Matildas, were beaten 7-0 by a team consisting of fourteen year-old boys.

    I did find some pictures of the Newcastle Jets boys team, but I’m going to follow our national journalistic standard, and not disclose the race of these boys. Isn’t it bad enough that only white males can write decent 10,000 word cover stories?

    • Replies: @Sue D. Nim
    The first rule of Lesbian Football : NO ONE CARES ABOUT LESBIAN FOOTBALL

    The second rule of Lesbian Football : NO ONE CARES ABOUT LESBIAN FOOTBALL
    , @Cagey Beast
    ‘Stop with this equality!’: French philosopher hounded for not watching women’s football
    https://www.rt.com/news/461241-france-womens-football-philosopher/
    , @Calvin Hobbes
    OT (but very iStevey!) response to your OT comment:

    These Girls’ Soccer Players Joined Boys’ Leagues. And Dominated.
    Spanish clubs like Barcelona, Atlético Madrid and Athletic Bilbao are increasingly testing their girls’ teams in leagues filled with boys’ teams. Is this the future of women’s soccer development?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/06/sports/barcelona-girls-soccer-womens-world-cup.html

    NYT article about how in Spain there are girls soccer teams kicking the butts of boys teams.
    I think it’s the best 12-year-old girls in the country playing neighborhood boys teams and beating them, but it’s played up as though it shows that females can be just as good at sports as males.
    The pictures reinforce the message, with a couple of the pictures showing dejected boys, presumably dejected about having lost to girls.

    , @Kyle
    They should be named the Sheilas instead of the Matildas.
    , @Ozymandias
    "Google is now reminding everyone that the Women’s Soccer World Cup tournament is underway, and don’t they deserve equal mention?"

    Have you seen Fox's "David and Goliath" commercial? It portrayed the U.S. women's team as such arrogant smacktards it's got me hoping they get their faces rubbed in the dirt. Good work, Fox.
  12. Anyone who’s not a white male can ace their college courses by writing essays about how everything is racist. That’s a substantial factor.

  13. “Is Goldberg implying that Ta-Nehisi Coates didn’t really write his big stories in The Atlantic?”

    Lol yeah, that was my first thought too: whoops, Freudian slip there Jeff!

    I too have thought that a lot of Coates’s Atlantic work appears ghostwritten, perhaps by Goldberg.

    “When Goldberg became editor of The Atlantic, he inherited some fine veteran female writers, such as Caitlyn Flanagan.”

    Agree again, Caitlyn Flanagan is probably the best writer Goldberg has left. Well, I guess he was too busy ghostwriting Ta-Nehisi to notice.

    • Replies: @Anon

    I too have thought that a lot of Coates’s Atlantic work appears ghostwritten, perhaps by Goldberg.
     
    It happens. I have reorganized and rewritten articles by non-native speakers, and by an actress for our blog site. The actress's material was stream of consciousness, but lots of really funny stuff to work with. One of the non-native speakers was Japanese and she just told me to take her English language blog and form it into something. The second was an Indian-American woman with really amazing clips from major media. Then I got her manuscript. Disorganized and non-native, horrible English, amateur hour. The clips were legit, so she was being rewritten by editors all over the place. And she was really prissy about it, wanted to do the rewriting herself. Her strong point was that she aggressively reported the story and got a lot of quotes, something really rare for web writers, who just want to to a "take" ... but come to think of it, we didn't fact check that she wasn't making those quotes up. But no, someone would have caught her before she ended up with us.
  14. @Lot
    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/3/18647615/coming-out-transgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff

    http://atxfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Panelist-Todd-VanDerWerff.jpg

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/192597/emily-cropped-small.0.jpg


    The writing in the article is so awful I wonder if Goldberg and the sexist-toward-lab-mice scientists may have a point.

    Why is this head tilted abnormally (about 20 degrees to the right)? Did the photographer tell her/him to do so? Do fashion photographers think a tilted head looks more beautiful than an upright head?

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Why is this head tilted abnormally (about 20 degrees to the right)? Did the photographer tell her/him to do so? Do fashion photographers think a tilted head looks more beautiful than an upright head?
     
    I think it is a photographer's one weird trick to disguise asymmetry in the subject.
  15. JimB says:

    Is Goldberg implying that Ta-Nehisi Coates didn’t really write his big stories in The Atlantic? Back in 2015, I pointed out that TNC 18,000 word cover story in The Atlantic on “The Enduring Myth of Black Criminality” didn’t read much at all like his bestselling (but pretty dotty) memoir.

    Stick parts of the TNC Atlantic article in Grammarly and use the plagiarism detector. The results might reveal evidence of joint authorship. Authors often recycle bits and pieces of their own prose.

  16. When Goldberg became editor of The Atlantic, he inherited some fine veteran female writers, such as Caitlyn Flanagan.

    Flanagan is a great writer. A rare example of someone I want to read to get the feminine perspective on things. I mean there are women writers whose opinion I want to know like Meghan McArdle or Heather MacDonald but not because they have a feminine point of view. And of course there are the mechanically predictable dreary hordes of feminist writers. She even managed to produce a readable defense of Blasey-Ford.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Right, Caitlyn Flanagan is great at giving the feminine perspective.

    Her dad's big Irish history novel, The Year of the French, is excellent.

  17. Lot says:

    OT: routine removal of wisdom teeth is a scam that makes US dentists $2+ billion a year and causes a permanent partial or complete jaw paralysis of thousands of Americans per year, not to mention lost school/work and other surgical complications.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1963310/#!po=1.38889

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Do you really believe this, Lot? It is just one paper.
    , @prime noticer
    what? no post about automatic circumcision at birth?
    , @Ricardo Cruz
    Interesting. In some countries like Germany, it is national policy to remove wisdom teeth to all children around the age of 17.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    My molars were so shot by the time I was 18 I needed those wisdom teeth!

    However, the front teeth are doing fine decades later. But Ancestry.com didn't uncover any rodent DNA.
    , @Buzz Mohawk
    From early in your link:

    According to the American Association of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons, “if there is insufficient anatomical space to accommodate normal eruption. . . removal of such teeth at an early age is a valid and scientifically sound treatment rationale based on medical necessity.”
     
    That is goddamned right, at least for some of us.

    By adolescence, there was "insufficient anatomical space" in my mouth not only for third molars, but for another four teeth as well. All eight had to be removed to make room for orthodontia, or I would have ended up looking worse then Tom Petty. In fact, that's exactly what I already looked like then, blond hair and all.

    If I'd learned to play the guitar, this could have been me:
    http://images.wolfgangsvault.com/artists/569/8111.jpg

    There was no room for all my teeth. This is common among some people. A lot more kids will develop the same problem if they don't get rid of the unnecessary teeth in the far back of the jaw. This is one aspect of our evolution that we must deal with. We have small jaws with too many vestigial teeth from before we were human.

    Not only can we end up looking like Tom Petty, but people like me can end up with all kinds of dental problems, because the teeth will do all kinds of weird things to try and fit into our tiny, homo sapiens mouths. Mine were already arranged in an arched bite, such that most of them were not even connecting during chewing.

    Thank God for extraction and orthodontia!

    One would not be surprised, though, to find out that oral surgeons are scamming parents into having this done to kids who don't need it. It's all about the Benjamins.
    , @The Alarmist

    "... routine removal of wisdom teeth is a scam ...."
     
    I had an Air Force dentist decide, since I was subject to world-wide deployment, that he should take all four of mine on the same day and then the [email protected] sent me back to work. My unit commander was a bit more understanding and sent me home for a couple days.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Why are you posting research from 12 years ago?
  18. @Lot
    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/3/18647615/coming-out-transgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff

    http://atxfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Panelist-Todd-VanDerWerff.jpg

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/192597/emily-cropped-small.0.jpg


    The writing in the article is so awful I wonder if Goldberg and the sexist-toward-lab-mice scientists may have a point.

    As they say “If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything.” and that is exactly what happens to these nihilistic NPCs of modern society who have no real value besdies those ascribed to them.

  19. I hope you get the same treatment that bully homophobe a rower is getting
    You guys need to watch the vlogbrothers John and Hank Green

  20. Anonymous[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    OT: routine removal of wisdom teeth is a scam that makes US dentists $2+ billion a year and causes a permanent partial or complete jaw paralysis of thousands of Americans per year, not to mention lost school/work and other surgical complications.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1963310/#!po=1.38889

    Do you really believe this, Lot? It is just one paper.

  21. Anonymous[421] • Disclaimer says:

    The right destroyed the one force capable of challenging porn’s ubiquity: social conservatism. It gleefully elected a sleazeball whose personal history is that of a man with contempt for the ideas of personal responsibility and duty to others that were once central to social conservatism.

    Boomer-journo Flanagan shows woman too can be funny, if not necessarily on purpose…

  22. holy shit. 18 THOUSAND words about ‘the enduring myth of black criminality’. that’s just crazy. even for clown world.

    that’s going way, way beyond reality denial and into another galaxy.

  23. @Lot
    OT: routine removal of wisdom teeth is a scam that makes US dentists $2+ billion a year and causes a permanent partial or complete jaw paralysis of thousands of Americans per year, not to mention lost school/work and other surgical complications.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1963310/#!po=1.38889

    what? no post about automatic circumcision at birth?

  24. @Lot
    OT: routine removal of wisdom teeth is a scam that makes US dentists $2+ billion a year and causes a permanent partial or complete jaw paralysis of thousands of Americans per year, not to mention lost school/work and other surgical complications.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1963310/#!po=1.38889

    Interesting. In some countries like Germany, it is national policy to remove wisdom teeth to all children around the age of 17.

  25. @Lot
    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/3/18647615/coming-out-transgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff

    http://atxfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Panelist-Todd-VanDerWerff.jpg

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/192597/emily-cropped-small.0.jpg


    The writing in the article is so awful I wonder if Goldberg and the sexist-toward-lab-mice scientists may have a point.

    They are really ratcheting it up, aren’t day. No slowing down, Faster and faster. This mania has to exhaust itself at some point, doesn’t it?

  26. @Lot
    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/3/18647615/coming-out-transgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff

    http://atxfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Panelist-Todd-VanDerWerff.jpg

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/192597/emily-cropped-small.0.jpg


    The writing in the article is so awful I wonder if Goldberg and the sexist-toward-lab-mice scientists may have a point.

    Why!?
    Twice in one day I have been subjected to extremely ugly men trying to be even uglier, weirder females.
    You don’t HAVE to include the pic, just leave a link with a warning.

    I’m in Australia, so d’ya know what time it is? Dinner time. Gee, thanks for the appetizer mate.

  27. @Lot
    OT: routine removal of wisdom teeth is a scam that makes US dentists $2+ billion a year and causes a permanent partial or complete jaw paralysis of thousands of Americans per year, not to mention lost school/work and other surgical complications.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1963310/#!po=1.38889

    My molars were so shot by the time I was 18 I needed those wisdom teeth!

    However, the front teeth are doing fine decades later. But Ancestry.com didn’t uncover any rodent DNA.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Lay off the soda, man. I'm serious.
  28. anon[117] • Disclaimer says:

    “The Atlantic Editor Under Fire for Saying Writers Who Can Pen Long Features are ‘Almost Exclusively White Males’”

    All the world is a stage: attention for me, and not for thee.

    Translation: Person uses pattern recognition to notice thing that is supported by facts. Sure, 86% of best-selling, non-romantic, fiction novels over the last decade have been written by white men, but when did we ever let facts get in the way of our feelings on how things should be – all about my group getting all the attention and your group getting none of it.

  29. @Lot
    OT: routine removal of wisdom teeth is a scam that makes US dentists $2+ billion a year and causes a permanent partial or complete jaw paralysis of thousands of Americans per year, not to mention lost school/work and other surgical complications.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1963310/#!po=1.38889

    From early in your link:

    According to the American Association of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons, “if there is insufficient anatomical space to accommodate normal eruption. . . removal of such teeth at an early age is a valid and scientifically sound treatment rationale based on medical necessity.”

    That is goddamned right, at least for some of us.

    [MORE]

    By adolescence, there was “insufficient anatomical space” in my mouth not only for third molars, but for another four teeth as well. All eight had to be removed to make room for orthodontia, or I would have ended up looking worse then Tom Petty. In fact, that’s exactly what I already looked like then, blond hair and all.

    If I’d learned to play the guitar, this could have been me:

    There was no room for all my teeth. This is common among some people. A lot more kids will develop the same problem if they don’t get rid of the unnecessary teeth in the far back of the jaw. This is one aspect of our evolution that we must deal with. We have small jaws with too many vestigial teeth from before we were human.

    Not only can we end up looking like Tom Petty, but people like me can end up with all kinds of dental problems, because the teeth will do all kinds of weird things to try and fit into our tiny, homo sapiens mouths. Mine were already arranged in an arched bite, such that most of them were not even connecting during chewing.

    Thank God for extraction and orthodontia!

    One would not be surprised, though, to find out that oral surgeons are scamming parents into having this done to kids who don’t need it. It’s all about the Benjamins.

    • Replies: @Anon
    According to Weston Price, it's not evolution that makes your jaw too small for your wisdom teeth, it's your lousy modern diet. He did research all over the planet back in the 1930s and discovered that everyone who ate an ancestral diet, (including small communities in the Swiss Alps and isolated areas of Scotland) grew jaws with enough room for their wisdom teeth. Nor did their teeth decay when they ate a diet without refined sugar.

    Price wrote that when you're not as well-nourished as you should be, the first place it shows up is in your face. Your jaw does not grow to its full maximum biological potential, and your teeth start being crowded and overlapping. You can also become a mouth breather because the holes in your nasal bones are too narrow for you to breathe easily through them. Nature takes your calcium and puts it elsewhere where the need is greater instead of making the front of your skull bigger.

    , @AnonAnon
    I had four permanent teeth removed when I was a kid to make space but my kids got palate expanders to widen their bites.

    It seems to me crowns are big money makers for dentists. Mine keeps recommending one or two every visit lately but my insurance only seems to agree half the time.

  30. Really, Steve, the Deadtree version ain’t much to write home about either.

    Get woke, go (mentally, in this case) broke.

  31. Anon[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    From early in your link:

    According to the American Association of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons, “if there is insufficient anatomical space to accommodate normal eruption. . . removal of such teeth at an early age is a valid and scientifically sound treatment rationale based on medical necessity.”
     
    That is goddamned right, at least for some of us.

    By adolescence, there was "insufficient anatomical space" in my mouth not only for third molars, but for another four teeth as well. All eight had to be removed to make room for orthodontia, or I would have ended up looking worse then Tom Petty. In fact, that's exactly what I already looked like then, blond hair and all.

    If I'd learned to play the guitar, this could have been me:
    http://images.wolfgangsvault.com/artists/569/8111.jpg

    There was no room for all my teeth. This is common among some people. A lot more kids will develop the same problem if they don't get rid of the unnecessary teeth in the far back of the jaw. This is one aspect of our evolution that we must deal with. We have small jaws with too many vestigial teeth from before we were human.

    Not only can we end up looking like Tom Petty, but people like me can end up with all kinds of dental problems, because the teeth will do all kinds of weird things to try and fit into our tiny, homo sapiens mouths. Mine were already arranged in an arched bite, such that most of them were not even connecting during chewing.

    Thank God for extraction and orthodontia!

    One would not be surprised, though, to find out that oral surgeons are scamming parents into having this done to kids who don't need it. It's all about the Benjamins.

    According to Weston Price, it’s not evolution that makes your jaw too small for your wisdom teeth, it’s your lousy modern diet. He did research all over the planet back in the 1930s and discovered that everyone who ate an ancestral diet, (including small communities in the Swiss Alps and isolated areas of Scotland) grew jaws with enough room for their wisdom teeth. Nor did their teeth decay when they ate a diet without refined sugar.

    Price wrote that when you’re not as well-nourished as you should be, the first place it shows up is in your face. Your jaw does not grow to its full maximum biological potential, and your teeth start being crowded and overlapping. You can also become a mouth breather because the holes in your nasal bones are too narrow for you to breathe easily through them. Nature takes your calcium and puts it elsewhere where the need is greater instead of making the front of your skull bigger.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    There is a theory that eating raw vegetables in childhood (eg giving your children a raw carrot to chew on while they wait for dinner) promotes jaw growth and leaves room for wisdom teeth.
  32. Is Goldberg implying that Ta-Nehisi Coates didn’t really write his big stories in The Atlantic

    It’s easy to write 10,000 words when 2,000 of them are “black bodies.”

  33. Reporters report. Journalists keep journals.

    What is a “journal” but a pretentious diary?

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    Journalists keep journals.
     
    No, actually, journalers keep journals. Journalists are supposed to produce news and opinions for the edification of their compatriots.
    , @RichardTaylor

    Reporters report. Journalists keep journals.

    What is a “journal” but a pretentious diary?
     
    This raises an interesting question: is there real value in "long form" journalism? I have a feeling that a piece that is whittled down from 10,000 words is much more intelligent.
  34. Germany’s still successful new-magazine “Der Spiegel” recently looked at its own fake/or at least not correct articles and stated, that roughly 40% of those were written by women, whereas (my guesstimation), less than 40% of its writers actually are women. The most successful faker (who won lots of prestigious journalism prices for his made up pieces), was a man though.

    Blogger of the year in Germany was a gentile woman, who had faked being a jew.

  35. @Reg Cæsar
    Reporters report. Journalists keep journals.

    What is a "journal" but a pretentious diary?

    Journalists keep journals.

    No, actually, journalers keep journals. Journalists are supposed to produce news and opinions for the edification of their compatriots.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Journalists are supposed to produce news and opinions for the edification of their compatriots
     
    Reporters tell you what's going on.

    Since when do either of them "produce" news? That ain't their job. It's their subjects'.
  36. @Lot
    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/3/18647615/coming-out-transgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff

    http://atxfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Panelist-Todd-VanDerWerff.jpg

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/192597/emily-cropped-small.0.jpg


    The writing in the article is so awful I wonder if Goldberg and the sexist-toward-lab-mice scientists may have a point.

    “The Handmaid’s Tale debuted in April 2017, and its arrival caused an instant sensation. The show was a beneficiary of timing; though its first season was largely produced before the 2016 presidential election and entirely written before that event, it tapped into a vein of catastrophic thinking that has only become more pronounced among certain segments of the left. Its story of a world where women are subjugated and held captive to be ritually raped once per month in hopes of producing a child carried with it an unspoken warning: Here was the end result of unchecked theocratic rule! Beware!”

    … And it gave me a huge boner to think of myself as one of those women.

    • Replies: @Altai
    https://www.reddit.com/r/itsafetish
    , @Oleaginous Outrager

    But the Current Year isn’t doing much to hone female talent
     
    I'm beginning to believe many recent college "graduates" have plodded through four to eight years of postsecondary schooling without ever submitting any writing of more than two paragraphs because grading on grammar, style and content is a tool of white patriarchal oppression.
    , @SFG
    I am getting more and more convinced there is something to this old 'sexually attracted to what you most despise' thing, between stories like this and ah...feminists with certain tastes I've ah...known. It's the lefty equivalent to the anti-gay preacher who turns out to be secretly gay.
  37. eah says:

    such as Caitlyn Flanagan

    What, in your opinion, makes her a ‘fine writer’? — is it her style? (ala Nabokov) — her skillful exposition? — her choice of topics? — insightfulness? — what?

    serious work

    Yes, “work” — I’ve made light of such women in the “workforce” before — of course writing is work, and often difficult: collecting findings and thoughts, organizing them into a flowing exposition, putting all that down in words with the appropriate style and nuance — done well, it’s genuine intellectual activity requiring high intelligence and erudition.

    But as “work”, how useful is it, really? — especially writing by women published on the internet, which can only really be a vehicle to sell advertising — as opposed to the same (what I will call) genetically advantaged women choosing and placing marriage, family, and motherhood first?

    clickbait junk

    But that’s the business of the internet — a website that publishes only “serious work” (whatever you exactly mean by that) will, presumably, attract far fewer readers who hang around longer, and therefore won’t reload the page and hence see only the same few ads — whereas “clickbait junk” generates significantly more page views of sufficient duration to ensure the same ads are seen far more often.

    Just as via entropy the universe trends toward disorganization and chaos, the internet trends toward “clickbait junk” — that appears to be its destiny.

    And what of a civilization whose genetically advantaged women disproportionately forgo motherhood for the sake of such “serious work”?

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    Pretty sure internet journalism would be one of the easiest careers for women with lots of children.

    I mean writing is decidedly non-physical. Not sure a lot of modern writers even spend all that much time in an office.
  38. @Buzz Mohawk
    From early in your link:

    According to the American Association of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons, “if there is insufficient anatomical space to accommodate normal eruption. . . removal of such teeth at an early age is a valid and scientifically sound treatment rationale based on medical necessity.”
     
    That is goddamned right, at least for some of us.

    By adolescence, there was "insufficient anatomical space" in my mouth not only for third molars, but for another four teeth as well. All eight had to be removed to make room for orthodontia, or I would have ended up looking worse then Tom Petty. In fact, that's exactly what I already looked like then, blond hair and all.

    If I'd learned to play the guitar, this could have been me:
    http://images.wolfgangsvault.com/artists/569/8111.jpg

    There was no room for all my teeth. This is common among some people. A lot more kids will develop the same problem if they don't get rid of the unnecessary teeth in the far back of the jaw. This is one aspect of our evolution that we must deal with. We have small jaws with too many vestigial teeth from before we were human.

    Not only can we end up looking like Tom Petty, but people like me can end up with all kinds of dental problems, because the teeth will do all kinds of weird things to try and fit into our tiny, homo sapiens mouths. Mine were already arranged in an arched bite, such that most of them were not even connecting during chewing.

    Thank God for extraction and orthodontia!

    One would not be surprised, though, to find out that oral surgeons are scamming parents into having this done to kids who don't need it. It's all about the Benjamins.

    I had four permanent teeth removed when I was a kid to make space but my kids got palate expanders to widen their bites.

    It seems to me crowns are big money makers for dentists. Mine keeps recommending one or two every visit lately but my insurance only seems to agree half the time.

  39. Anon[320] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/3/18647615/coming-out-transgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff

    http://atxfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Panelist-Todd-VanDerWerff.jpg

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/192597/emily-cropped-small.0.jpg


    The writing in the article is so awful I wonder if Goldberg and the sexist-toward-lab-mice scientists may have a point.

    This is so disturbing to me. He, ur, she has a wife, who is tweating their “journey” and affirming “tall wife.” She seems to be full Stockholm. Culturally, being also a New York-based writer, she would be committing social and career suicide by not being supportive.

    So all of a sudden she’s a lesbian, no strap-on required, because her wife has a dick down there somewhere under his panniculus. They are late 30s, to late for wifey to divorce and have kids with a guy. Pretty soon the discussion will turn to, Let’s have kids. Sit on my frontpole. My ladynuggets have all you need to get knocked up. (He writes about dreams where he’s driving around with his future daughter.)

    Oh God in heaven, what is going on down here?

    • Replies: @Lot
    A surprisingly high share of wives in this situation stand by their she-man. I think Steve’s billionaire trannie UCLA classmate is still married to his/her/zer wife.
    , @Forbes
    Me? I waaay past the curiosity (much less faking interest) stage to read about these weirdos and their totally fucked-up lives..

    Increasingly, it really is "life is too short."
  40. @WowJustWow
    "The Handmaid’s Tale debuted in April 2017, and its arrival caused an instant sensation. The show was a beneficiary of timing; though its first season was largely produced before the 2016 presidential election and entirely written before that event, it tapped into a vein of catastrophic thinking that has only become more pronounced among certain segments of the left. Its story of a world where women are subjugated and held captive to be ritually raped once per month in hopes of producing a child carried with it an unspoken warning: Here was the end result of unchecked theocratic rule! Beware!"

    ... And it gave me a huge boner to think of myself as one of those women.
  41. “Why Are Women Becoming Worse Journalists?”

    I dunno, but they are becoming much better YouTube bikini Vloggers.

  42. @Lot
    OT: routine removal of wisdom teeth is a scam that makes US dentists $2+ billion a year and causes a permanent partial or complete jaw paralysis of thousands of Americans per year, not to mention lost school/work and other surgical complications.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1963310/#!po=1.38889

    “… routine removal of wisdom teeth is a scam ….”

    I had an Air Force dentist decide, since I was subject to world-wide deployment, that he should take all four of mine on the same day and then the [email protected] sent me back to work. My unit commander was a bit more understanding and sent me home for a couple days.

  43. Seems to me like there has been a general decline in in depth magazine articles.

    One of my great enjoyments used to be spending evenings sipping bourbon and reading The New Yorker’s fascinating articles about esoteric subjects. Sadly The New Yorker has become a leftist rag.

    Would happily follow anyone’s recommendations on where to find good in depth journalism articles.

    • Replies: @SFG
    They always were a leftist rag, they just used to talk about other stuff sometimes. Kind of like the way commie professors would still give reasonable talks about French literature or mathematics if it didn't touch on their political views, but now everything has to be woke. When I saw the article on putting social justice into math instruction...

    I kind of feel like the intellectual decline is going to leave at least a small market for highbrow stuff on the right. Granted most bright conservatives are more interested in bull markets than Baudelaire, but there ought to be some market. Whatever happened to the New Criterion?

    , @Intelligent Dasein
    This blogger was really, really good. Sadly he is no longer active, but his oeuvre is still up.

    https://spikejapan.wordpress.com/
    , @AnotherGuessModel
    Follow people whose writing (or ideas, if they are not a writer) you like on Twitter, and bookmark articles that they link or discuss positively. I've discovered so many good articles that way, including long features.
    , @McFly
    As recently as 15 years ago, the articles in the NYT read like they were written who took a great deal of pride in the quality of their writing.
  44. Why Are Women Becoming Worse Journalists?

    We know, Steve, as you taught us well. They are becoming uglier and less like the flaxen-haired, blue-eyed, button-nosed girl next door.

    When Goldberg became editor of The Atlantic, he inherited some fine veteran female writers, such as Caitlyn Flanagan.

    Oh, Steve! Oh, Steve! For shame! For shame!

    You just posted a link to a “fine” article that supports your own Law of Female Journalism. You don’t see it? It must be because, as the article itself says, “just the word pornography… [people] lose their minds, quite frankly, when they hear that word.”

    Aging, unattractive female journalist writes article contending that young, attractive women who bank on their sex appeal can only be doing it as a “distress signal”:

    the tendency of deeply troubled teenage girls to act out sexually as a kind of distress signal, an attempt to get the attention of adults who may not be getting the message that they’re in a crisis…

    Yes, because girls don’t want to have sex–icky, icky sex.

    Working this out within the closed world of a high school was painful…

    Yes, teenagers having sex is unnatural, but herding teenagers into buildings together where they are separated from people of all other age groups is entirely natural, so it’s sex to blame for the pain, here, not modern life.

    …but it was something that could be transcended—eventually everyone moves on and the past settles into place.

    If only those attractive young girls would just keep their sights focused on the other side of young adulthood–on becoming an aging, unattractive professional women…

    Girls who feel uncomfortable or shamed about their body are deeply drawn to it. “I liked the attention I got,” Caitlin says of her first foray into selling pictures online; she liked “being called beautiful. I enjoyed it because it made me feel good about myself.”

    You see, if someone calls you beautiful and you enjoy it, that means you have body shame. No ones calls me beautiful, and I am not shamed. Shut up!

    The idea… is that it is entirely possible to be an adult performer yet in private life be someone who is perhaps modest… It’s hard to imagine that it’s possible.

    Nobody wants to do to modest me the things that are done to young, attractive girls in porn. It must be because they are sluts. I can’t imagine any other difference between them and me.

    The right understands porn as a thing for sale, and so has a grudging respect for it. “It’s Trump,” the porn star Eva Lovia told Fortune at the 2016 AVN Awards when she was asked whom she was supporting for president, “because I like my money. I’m sorry! I’m sorry! I want to keep it.”

    Okay, so maybe some girls in porn aren’t distressed and acting out. But not normal, virtuous women like me! No, no! It’s those disgusting conservative Trump supporters!

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    TL; DR

    My comment on the article - Caitlin Fink is no Traci Lords!
  45. @Lot
    OT: routine removal of wisdom teeth is a scam that makes US dentists $2+ billion a year and causes a permanent partial or complete jaw paralysis of thousands of Americans per year, not to mention lost school/work and other surgical complications.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1963310/#!po=1.38889

    Why are you posting research from 12 years ago?

    • Replies: @Lot
    Thought it was interesting. Here’s a 2016 summary saying the same thing.

    https://www.sciencealert.com/no-you-probably-don-t-need-to-get-your-wisdom-teeth-removed-ever
  46. @Lot
    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/3/18647615/coming-out-transgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff

    http://atxfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Panelist-Todd-VanDerWerff.jpg

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/192597/emily-cropped-small.0.jpg


    The writing in the article is so awful I wonder if Goldberg and the sexist-toward-lab-mice scientists may have a point.

    Sex change should have the same pre-conditions are bariatric surgery–first you have to spend some time in the gym and lose weight–to make sure it isn’t your abdominal fat twisting your hormones or self-confidence into making you feel like a pussy.

    • Agree: Lot
  47. Anon[256] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri

    "Is Goldberg implying that Ta-Nehisi Coates didn’t really write his big stories in The Atlantic?"
     
    Lol yeah, that was my first thought too: whoops, Freudian slip there Jeff!

    I too have thought that a lot of Coates's Atlantic work appears ghostwritten, perhaps by Goldberg.

    "When Goldberg became editor of The Atlantic, he inherited some fine veteran female writers, such as Caitlyn Flanagan."
     
    Agree again, Caitlyn Flanagan is probably the best writer Goldberg has left. Well, I guess he was too busy ghostwriting Ta-Nehisi to notice.

    I too have thought that a lot of Coates’s Atlantic work appears ghostwritten, perhaps by Goldberg.

    It happens. I have reorganized and rewritten articles by non-native speakers, and by an actress for our blog site. The actress’s material was stream of consciousness, but lots of really funny stuff to work with. One of the non-native speakers was Japanese and she just told me to take her English language blog and form it into something. The second was an Indian-American woman with really amazing clips from major media. Then I got her manuscript. Disorganized and non-native, horrible English, amateur hour. The clips were legit, so she was being rewritten by editors all over the place. And she was really prissy about it, wanted to do the rewriting herself. Her strong point was that she aggressively reported the story and got a lot of quotes, something really rare for web writers, who just want to to a “take” … but come to think of it, we didn’t fact check that she wasn’t making those quotes up. But no, someone would have caught her before she ended up with us.

  48. anonymous[273] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t know, maybe there is some white male favoritism for huge cover stories in The Atlantic.

    Did you read the hilariously bad cover story about Andrew Anglin? On his own site Anglin destroyed the story and the author in such devastating fashion they were never heard from again. Anglin rightly pointed out everyone else in media was too embarrassed to talk about what was supposed to be an epic takedown of the alt-right monster under the bed because The Atlantic piece was just that bad.

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    A link would be helpful. I thought Anglin had been relegated to the dark web.
    , @bomag

    I don’t know, maybe there is some white male favoritism for huge cover stories in The Atlantic.
     
    We're better off in the long run if we nurture a cult of the White male.

    Otherwise, we get the cult of the Female; or the cult of the Black; or the cult of the Asian; etc., and they sure don't apologize much for their incompetents.
  49. @WowJustWow
    "The Handmaid’s Tale debuted in April 2017, and its arrival caused an instant sensation. The show was a beneficiary of timing; though its first season was largely produced before the 2016 presidential election and entirely written before that event, it tapped into a vein of catastrophic thinking that has only become more pronounced among certain segments of the left. Its story of a world where women are subjugated and held captive to be ritually raped once per month in hopes of producing a child carried with it an unspoken warning: Here was the end result of unchecked theocratic rule! Beware!"

    ... And it gave me a huge boner to think of myself as one of those women.

    But the Current Year isn’t doing much to hone female talent

    I’m beginning to believe many recent college “graduates” have plodded through four to eight years of postsecondary schooling without ever submitting any writing of more than two paragraphs because grading on grammar, style and content is a tool of white patriarchal oppression.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    A Madison Ave. ad exec friend of mine from over a decade ago reported to me that without exception, every college graduate junior copywriter they hired couldn't write. They had to teach them on the job.
  50. @Reg Cæsar
    My molars were so shot by the time I was 18 I needed those wisdom teeth!

    However, the front teeth are doing fine decades later. But Ancestry.com didn't uncover any rodent DNA.

    Lay off the soda, man. I’m serious.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Steve,
    Glad you could approve this comment before mine. I can see it adds to the topic much more.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Lay off the soda, man. I’m serious
     
    The only soda I've consumed for many years is Arm & Hammer-- to brush with.

    Funny, nobody around here calls it baking pop.
  51. SFG says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter
    Seems to me like there has been a general decline in in depth magazine articles.

    One of my great enjoyments used to be spending evenings sipping bourbon and reading The New Yorker’s fascinating articles about esoteric subjects. Sadly The New Yorker has become a leftist rag.

    Would happily follow anyone’s recommendations on where to find good in depth journalism articles.

    They always were a leftist rag, they just used to talk about other stuff sometimes. Kind of like the way commie professors would still give reasonable talks about French literature or mathematics if it didn’t touch on their political views, but now everything has to be woke. When I saw the article on putting social justice into math instruction…

    I kind of feel like the intellectual decline is going to leave at least a small market for highbrow stuff on the right. Granted most bright conservatives are more interested in bull markets than Baudelaire, but there ought to be some market. Whatever happened to the New Criterion?

    • Replies: @Forbes
    The New Criterion is still published 10 issues per year, as always. City Journal and Claremont Review of Books are both quarterlies. Only dead tree periodicals I receive.
    , @Desiderius

    Granted most bright conservatives are more interested in bull markets than Baudelaire
     
    As if the two have nothing in common.
  52. @WowJustWow
    "The Handmaid’s Tale debuted in April 2017, and its arrival caused an instant sensation. The show was a beneficiary of timing; though its first season was largely produced before the 2016 presidential election and entirely written before that event, it tapped into a vein of catastrophic thinking that has only become more pronounced among certain segments of the left. Its story of a world where women are subjugated and held captive to be ritually raped once per month in hopes of producing a child carried with it an unspoken warning: Here was the end result of unchecked theocratic rule! Beware!"

    ... And it gave me a huge boner to think of myself as one of those women.

    I am getting more and more convinced there is something to this old ‘sexually attracted to what you most despise’ thing, between stories like this and ah…feminists with certain tastes I’ve ah…known. It’s the lefty equivalent to the anti-gay preacher who turns out to be secretly gay.

    • Replies: @Corn
    “…feminists with certain tastes I’ve ah…known.”

    SFG my good man, are you referring to this phenomenon of strident, annoyingly vocal feminist women who crave being pushed around and degraded in the bedroom?

    Also, I’m not speaking with much knowledge, having never read or seen The Handmaiden’s Tale, but it’s my understanding that the theme is a plague or radioactive contamination rendered most women sterile. So if you are a fertile woman you’re kept in the house of a wealthy and powerful man to breed. You may also have a barren woman or two to be your servant(s).

    I’m sure more than a few women would make peace with living a life like that.

  53. @SFG
    Lay off the soda, man. I'm serious.

    Steve,
    Glad you could approve this comment before mine. I can see it adds to the topic much more.

  54. Somewhere, Kevin Williamson is enjoying a celebratory box of bonbons.

  55. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Seems to me like there has been a general decline in in depth magazine articles.

    One of my great enjoyments used to be spending evenings sipping bourbon and reading The New Yorker’s fascinating articles about esoteric subjects. Sadly The New Yorker has become a leftist rag.

    Would happily follow anyone’s recommendations on where to find good in depth journalism articles.

    This blogger was really, really good. Sadly he is no longer active, but his oeuvre is still up.

    https://spikejapan.wordpress.com/

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    Thanks. Interesting link.

    Unfortunately, since Steve isn't approving my comments, you can't read what I had to say.

    I guess if I post something he disapproves of, I can't. Kind of like YouTube and Facebook..
  56. @anon
    It's instructive to look at these photos on the 75th anniversary of D-Day. Oh how American culture has changed.
    Only a long and bitter war will restore good character to this country.

    Dovetails with a lot of longer term thought I–and a lot of us–have had …

    I was watching “The Pacific” on Amazon yesterday–the epipsode was on Okinawa–and i had a thought that perhaps the development of nuclear weapons is a big part of what is destroying the West?

    (And this is coming from a guy who has basically been in the “nukes are great!” camp my whole life.)

    Nuclear weapons have at some deep level obviated the core role/responsibility of men to do battle to protect their nation/civilization. If nukes didn’t exist, and we constantly trained all young men to be ready to do battle in a higher tech version of World War II, would we be anywhere near this nutty? Especially about men and women? I think the reality of nukes–that ultimately our “protection” is push-button and doesn’t rely on male strength, aggression, fortitude–has filtered down through our society, our consciousness and badly distorted women’s perception of themselves and men.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    An intriguing thought, but it seems just as bad ,if not worse, in nations that are non nuclear. Perhaps being under the notional American nuclear umbrella has the same effect.
    , @Dr. X
    It's not just nukes, it's modernity in general. Modern technology has enabled developed societies to live in a bubble, almost completely divorced from the harsh realities that nature imposed on past generations.

    I'd argue that the birth control pill had more to do with our warped notions of gender than the bomb... but both are factors.
    , @Forbes

    I think the reality of nukes–that ultimately our “protection” is push-button and doesn’t rely on male strength, aggression, fortitude–has filtered down through our society, our consciousness and badly distorted women’s perception of themselves and men.
     
    Yup. There are reasons civilizations die--usually from a failure to defend the civilization from encroachment by, then compromise with, followed by submission to outsiders/aliens/invaders/conquerors.

    What's the aphorism about sleeping peaceably at night because rough men stand ready...
    , @Desiderius
    Nukes threw off all intuitive cost-benefit analyses. Before nukes, war was much less costly, because the probability of wiping out the species was zero. Now it’s not.

    Everything “crazy” that has arisen after can be seen as a(n) (allergic) reaction to that change. Especially anything that reduces population which is inexplicably popular (such as abortion) is an attempt at war by other means.
  57. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Seems to me like there has been a general decline in in depth magazine articles.

    One of my great enjoyments used to be spending evenings sipping bourbon and reading The New Yorker’s fascinating articles about esoteric subjects. Sadly The New Yorker has become a leftist rag.

    Would happily follow anyone’s recommendations on where to find good in depth journalism articles.

    Follow people whose writing (or ideas, if they are not a writer) you like on Twitter, and bookmark articles that they link or discuss positively. I’ve discovered so many good articles that way, including long features.

  58. @anon
    It's instructive to look at these photos on the 75th anniversary of D-Day. Oh how American culture has changed.
    Only a long and bitter war will restore good character to this country.

    Given how things have turned out since the war, I frankly wish it had been the Germans liberating us, rather than us ‘liberating’ the French.

  59. @Reg Cæsar
    Reporters report. Journalists keep journals.

    What is a "journal" but a pretentious diary?

    Reporters report. Journalists keep journals.

    What is a “journal” but a pretentious diary?

    This raises an interesting question: is there real value in “long form” journalism? I have a feeling that a piece that is whittled down from 10,000 words is much more intelligent.

  60. @AnotherDad
    Dovetails with a lot of longer term thought I--and a lot of us--have had …

    I was watching "The Pacific" on Amazon yesterday--the epipsode was on Okinawa--and i had a thought that perhaps the development of nuclear weapons is a big part of what is destroying the West?

    (And this is coming from a guy who has basically been in the "nukes are great!" camp my whole life.)

    Nuclear weapons have at some deep level obviated the core role/responsibility of men to do battle to protect their nation/civilization. If nukes didn't exist, and we constantly trained all young men to be ready to do battle in a higher tech version of World War II, would we be anywhere near this nutty? Especially about men and women? I think the reality of nukes--that ultimately our "protection" is push-button and doesn't rely on male strength, aggression, fortitude--has filtered down through our society, our consciousness and badly distorted women's perception of themselves and men.

    An intriguing thought, but it seems just as bad ,if not worse, in nations that are non nuclear. Perhaps being under the notional American nuclear umbrella has the same effect.

  61. @Rational
    WOMEN HAVE BECOME WORSE....PERIOD.

    Not just journalists, but women, in general, are out of control, losing it, sinking into the gutter.

    All because of feminism and VAWA, which teaches them that the legal system is a joke.

    So they are turning to crime, including violent crime, in droves. Turning to drugs:

    https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/White-women-addicted-incarcerated-and-overlooked-12910138.php

    Women evolved on one factor only--beauty. They do not have the brain to take care of themselves, to know right from wrong, and need a man to take charge of their life, which man power has been destroyed by the liberals, turning women loose into the fire of self destruction.

    Women evolved on one factor only–beauty. They do not have the brain to take care of themselves, to know right from wrong, and need a man to take charge of their life

    Though I really hate to take the side of feminists in any dispute, I feel constrained to point out that most men today can barely manage their own lives, much less anyone else’s.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    This was always true; one of the reasons for the temperance movement was that large numbers of middle and working class men were turning into drunken layabouts that left their families neglected and impoverished.

    Honestly you can’t get rid of feminism without returning to other old fashioned hierarchies too.

    A lot of average people, man or woman, don’t need to be in charge of things. That’s why aristocrats and civil servant classes and noblesse oblige and all that once existed.

  62. @Anon
    Is this different from this story in Niemanlab?

    Promoting based on potential: How The Atlantic is putting a lot more women in charge

    “The only way to put women in leadership is to do it for the first time.”

    https://www.niemanlab.org/2019/06/promoting-based-on-potential-how-the-atlantic-is-putting-a-lot-more-women-in-charge/

    In 2016, women made up just 17 percent of editorial leadership at The Atlantic. Today, women account for 63 percent of newsroom leaders (see the masthead here; though this story focuses on the editorial side, there are a lot of women on the business side too). In 2018, 75 percent of new newsroom hires were women.

    This isn’t an accident. The Atlantic — like other news organizations that have sought to diversify their staffs, though there’s still a ton of work to be done — has been intentional about hiring more women and people of color under the leadership of Jeffrey Goldberg, who was appointed editor-in-chief in 2016.
     
    They came out the same day and they are Jekyll and Hyde sides of Goldberg?

    In 2018, 75 percent of new newsroom hires were women… there’s still a ton of work to be done

    Right? It’s like the diversity deal where no cohort is considered sufficiently diverse until it’s 100% black.

    Logical conundrums simply don’t exist for these people.

    • Replies: @Ragno
    Was wondering that myself.....if 75 percent means 'ton of work to be done', then 'facing up to the challenges ahead' must mean 'I don't care if all they speak is volcano-god gibberish, let me renew my damn passport while I still can and get the hell out of Dodge'.

    And forget women journalists - if you didn't smell this coming when military and law-enforcement started gutting their own standards to pad their numbers with orcs......well, let me put this is 21st Century English.....U R stoopit.

  63. Anon[146] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m in a profession that is mostly women. It’s chaos.

    Roughly 4 in 10 are competent, normal, and are a pleasure to work with. The rest are a mix of gross incompetency born out of IQ that is not high enough for the work (standards are continuously lowered to allow for ever-easier entry of the broader female group), emotional dysfunction that manifests in swings that they take out on other people often based on what their broken minds tell them to interpret in their interpersonal interactions that is not there (though some are simply little balls of hate), and irrational cruelty in an effort to compensate for low self-esteem when given the most minimal authority. Accountability is nil and requests for such are met with quiet rage that you can be sure will be vented in some manner down the road. This is all often mixed together in a single individual.

    • Replies: @Sextus Empiricus
    https://youtu.be/0g9_wfkYjfo
    , @Jim Don Bob
    What industry?
  64. @Anon7
    OT: Google is now reminding everyone that the Women's Soccer World Cup tournament is underway, and don't they deserve equal mention?

    Of course, this is a good time to remember that in 2016, the Australian Women's National Soccer Team, the Matildas, were beaten 7-0 by a team consisting of fourteen year-old boys.

    I did find some pictures of the Newcastle Jets boys team, but I'm going to follow our national journalistic standard, and not disclose the race of these boys. Isn't it bad enough that only white males can write decent 10,000 word cover stories?

    The first rule of Lesbian Football : NO ONE CARES ABOUT LESBIAN FOOTBALL

    The second rule of Lesbian Football : NO ONE CARES ABOUT LESBIAN FOOTBALL

    • Replies: @Anon7
    Women’s basketball has a similar problem. My local university has been pushing it for thirty years, with deals that offer a ticket, a hot dog and a soda for $1. The “crowd” peaked at about 300-500, and yes there were lots of women sitting in pairs. And families that couldn’t resist a cheap outing.
    , @Redneck farmer
    Pornhub says you don't know what you're talking about.
  65. OT:
    This is funny and it shows what games a White guy feels he has to play to keep a seat in this game of musical chairs:

    • Replies: @Forbes
    I dunno. I tried reading Chris Amade's article in First Things, and couldn't stay with it. He's another lefty who went on a journey of self-discovery, and believes he's Christopher Columbus reporting back to Ferdinand and Isabella. The left really has a self-awareness problem. (Mostly because they live in a bubble world of their own, completely oblivious to the lives of others.)

    Hunt's Point in the Bronx is chronically poor, and miserable. And 50 years (and $100 billion later) of Great Society programs have had little impact on the impoverished in the US. It doesn't make the news because it is commonplace.

    And Greenwald referring to them as working class misses the mark.

    https://www.firstthings.com/article/2019/06/back-row-america
  66. @Anon7
    OT: Google is now reminding everyone that the Women's Soccer World Cup tournament is underway, and don't they deserve equal mention?

    Of course, this is a good time to remember that in 2016, the Australian Women's National Soccer Team, the Matildas, were beaten 7-0 by a team consisting of fourteen year-old boys.

    I did find some pictures of the Newcastle Jets boys team, but I'm going to follow our national journalistic standard, and not disclose the race of these boys. Isn't it bad enough that only white males can write decent 10,000 word cover stories?

    ‘Stop with this equality!’: French philosopher hounded for not watching women’s football
    https://www.rt.com/news/461241-france-womens-football-philosopher/

  67. I wonder what kind of answer Angling Andrew would have to Steve’s question.

  68. @AnotherDad
    Dovetails with a lot of longer term thought I--and a lot of us--have had …

    I was watching "The Pacific" on Amazon yesterday--the epipsode was on Okinawa--and i had a thought that perhaps the development of nuclear weapons is a big part of what is destroying the West?

    (And this is coming from a guy who has basically been in the "nukes are great!" camp my whole life.)

    Nuclear weapons have at some deep level obviated the core role/responsibility of men to do battle to protect their nation/civilization. If nukes didn't exist, and we constantly trained all young men to be ready to do battle in a higher tech version of World War II, would we be anywhere near this nutty? Especially about men and women? I think the reality of nukes--that ultimately our "protection" is push-button and doesn't rely on male strength, aggression, fortitude--has filtered down through our society, our consciousness and badly distorted women's perception of themselves and men.

    It’s not just nukes, it’s modernity in general. Modern technology has enabled developed societies to live in a bubble, almost completely divorced from the harsh realities that nature imposed on past generations.

    I’d argue that the birth control pill had more to do with our warped notions of gender than the bomb… but both are factors.

  69. @Anon7
    OT: Google is now reminding everyone that the Women's Soccer World Cup tournament is underway, and don't they deserve equal mention?

    Of course, this is a good time to remember that in 2016, the Australian Women's National Soccer Team, the Matildas, were beaten 7-0 by a team consisting of fourteen year-old boys.

    I did find some pictures of the Newcastle Jets boys team, but I'm going to follow our national journalistic standard, and not disclose the race of these boys. Isn't it bad enough that only white males can write decent 10,000 word cover stories?

    OT (but very iStevey!) response to your OT comment:

    These Girls’ Soccer Players Joined Boys’ Leagues. And Dominated.
    Spanish clubs like Barcelona, Atlético Madrid and Athletic Bilbao are increasingly testing their girls’ teams in leagues filled with boys’ teams. Is this the future of women’s soccer development?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/06/sports/barcelona-girls-soccer-womens-world-cup.html

    NYT article about how in Spain there are girls soccer teams kicking the butts of boys teams.
    I think it’s the best 12-year-old girls in the country playing neighborhood boys teams and beating them, but it’s played up as though it shows that females can be just as good at sports as males.
    The pictures reinforce the message, with a couple of the pictures showing dejected boys, presumably dejected about having lost to girls.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    As far as I can tell, Athletic Bilbao and Athletic Madrid are professional clubs, that gather the best of the best from across the country. Also, the selection of ages is key; 12 year old girls and 12 year old boys are closer, since puberty hasn't happened yet. Fourteen year-old boys and girls are starting to move apart, but not so much that 99% percentile girls can't give 40-50th percentile boys a good game.

    I note that these professional clubs cut the mixed games off at sixteen; soccer can be a rough game, and you don't want players (girls) getting hurt. Of course, most boys can be counted on to defer to girls, and not play as hard; beating a girls team doesn't carry much prestige for boys. Anyone who has played coed sports knows that there is a lot of social pressure for men to downplay their skills, and god forbid you should injure or hurt the feelings of one of the women you are playing with. Or at least that was true in the 1980's when I participated in such sports.

    It always amazes me that intelligent women are completely cozened by this kind of reporting; men and women are equal! Then when you tell them that Serena Williams was never better than about World number 700 in tennis, if you counted men and women both, they can't handle it. Even Serena admits she plays girls because they're, well, girls. You should see her trying to handle serves from men.

    I'm afraid that boys are also susceptible. Average boys (who probably rarely even go outside) playing 99th percentile girls when they're 14 gives them the idea that girls can really compete, a useless notion once everyone has passed puberty.

  70. Explanation for the “Awokening” of the NYT: 49% of NYT staff now aged 22-37 (yes, millennials) says Mark Thompson

  71. @HammerJack

    In 2018, 75 percent of new newsroom hires were women... there’s still a ton of work to be done
     
    Right? It's like the diversity deal where no cohort is considered sufficiently diverse until it's 100% black.

    Logical conundrums simply don't exist for these people.

    Was wondering that myself…..if 75 percent means ‘ton of work to be done’, then ‘facing up to the challenges ahead’ must mean ‘I don’t care if all they speak is volcano-god gibberish, let me renew my damn passport while I still can and get the hell out of Dodge’.

    And forget women journalists – if you didn’t smell this coming when military and law-enforcement started gutting their own standards to pad their numbers with orcs……well, let me put this is 21st Century English…..U R stoopit.

  72. @Lot
    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/3/18647615/coming-out-transgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff

    http://atxfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Panelist-Todd-VanDerWerff.jpg

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/192597/emily-cropped-small.0.jpg


    The writing in the article is so awful I wonder if Goldberg and the sexist-toward-lab-mice scientists may have a point.

    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale,…………..

    If he was watching A Handmaid’s Tale, maybe he wasn’t really straight.

  73. @Anon7
    OT: Google is now reminding everyone that the Women's Soccer World Cup tournament is underway, and don't they deserve equal mention?

    Of course, this is a good time to remember that in 2016, the Australian Women's National Soccer Team, the Matildas, were beaten 7-0 by a team consisting of fourteen year-old boys.

    I did find some pictures of the Newcastle Jets boys team, but I'm going to follow our national journalistic standard, and not disclose the race of these boys. Isn't it bad enough that only white males can write decent 10,000 word cover stories?

    They should be named the Sheilas instead of the Matildas.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    Wasn't the "Sheilas" taken by the Irish women's team... Or are they the "Colleens"?

    I can never keep it straight...
  74. @SFG
    Lay off the soda, man. I'm serious.

    Lay off the soda, man. I’m serious

    The only soda I’ve consumed for many years is Arm & Hammer– to brush with.

    Funny, nobody around here calls it baking pop.

    • LOL: Corn
  75. Corn says:
    @SFG
    I am getting more and more convinced there is something to this old 'sexually attracted to what you most despise' thing, between stories like this and ah...feminists with certain tastes I've ah...known. It's the lefty equivalent to the anti-gay preacher who turns out to be secretly gay.

    “…feminists with certain tastes I’ve ah…known.”

    SFG my good man, are you referring to this phenomenon of strident, annoyingly vocal feminist women who crave being pushed around and degraded in the bedroom?

    Also, I’m not speaking with much knowledge, having never read or seen The Handmaiden’s Tale, but it’s my understanding that the theme is a plague or radioactive contamination rendered most women sterile. So if you are a fertile woman you’re kept in the house of a wealthy and powerful man to breed. You may also have a barren woman or two to be your servant(s).

    I’m sure more than a few women would make peace with living a life like that.

  76. @Sue D. Nim
    The first rule of Lesbian Football : NO ONE CARES ABOUT LESBIAN FOOTBALL

    The second rule of Lesbian Football : NO ONE CARES ABOUT LESBIAN FOOTBALL

    Women’s basketball has a similar problem. My local university has been pushing it for thirty years, with deals that offer a ticket, a hot dog and a soda for $1. The “crowd” peaked at about 300-500, and yes there were lots of women sitting in pairs. And families that couldn’t resist a cheap outing.

    • Replies: @Anon

    Women’s basketball has a similar problem. My local university has been pushing it for thirty years, with deals that offer a ticket, a hot dog and a soda for $1
     
    That $1 charge is a truly sad death-grip on a grain of dignity.

    At that price, the seats are already heavily subsidized.

    They'd likely do better financially to offer free seats and then charge advertisers for halftime advertising on the screen based on improved attendance numbers.

  77. @NJ Transit Commuter
    Seems to me like there has been a general decline in in depth magazine articles.

    One of my great enjoyments used to be spending evenings sipping bourbon and reading The New Yorker’s fascinating articles about esoteric subjects. Sadly The New Yorker has become a leftist rag.

    Would happily follow anyone’s recommendations on where to find good in depth journalism articles.

    As recently as 15 years ago, the articles in the NYT read like they were written who took a great deal of pride in the quality of their writing.

  78. Flip says:
    @Rational
    WOMEN HAVE BECOME WORSE....PERIOD.

    Not just journalists, but women, in general, are out of control, losing it, sinking into the gutter.

    All because of feminism and VAWA, which teaches them that the legal system is a joke.

    So they are turning to crime, including violent crime, in droves. Turning to drugs:

    https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/White-women-addicted-incarcerated-and-overlooked-12910138.php

    Women evolved on one factor only--beauty. They do not have the brain to take care of themselves, to know right from wrong, and need a man to take charge of their life, which man power has been destroyed by the liberals, turning women loose into the fire of self destruction.

    “The nobler and more perfect a thing is, the later and slower is it in reaching maturity. Man reaches the maturity of his reasoning and mental faculties scarcely before he is eight-and-twenty; woman when she is eighteen; but hers is reason of very narrow limitations. This is why women remain children all their lives, for they always see only what is near at hand, cling to the present, take the appearance of a thing for reality, and prefer trifling matters to the most important. It is by virtue of man’s reasoning powers that he does not live in the present only, like the brute, but observes and ponders over the past and future; and from this spring discretion, care, and that anxiety which we so frequently notice in people. The advantages, as well as the disadvantages, that this entails, make woman, in consequence of her weaker reasoning powers, less of a partaker in them. Moreover, she is intellectually short-sighted, for although her intuitive understanding quickly perceives what is near to her, on the other hand her circle of vision is limited and does not embrace anything that is remote; hence everything that is absent or past, or in the future, affects women in a less degree than men. This is why they have greater inclination for extravagance, which sometimes borders on madness. Women in their hearts think that men are intended to earn money so that they may spend it, if possible during their husband’s lifetime, but at any rate after his death.”

    Schopenhauer “On Women”

  79. How about Hanna Rosin and her Section 8 and Black crime story?

    Internet says Rosin was born in Israel, so she ain’t some whiny Jew American broad like Michelle Goldberg at the New York Times.

    Tweet from 2014:

  80. I look on Twitter to connect Sailer and Hanna Rosin and all I find is Sailer saying it’s a small world and the women’s magazine reader market is big.

    Go figure.

  81. Becoming?

    Ask any Social Justice Jihadi in Italy, and y’all will know that late Oriana Fallaci was the worst… ever.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/matteosalvinimi/status/1132196056261890049

  82. @Anon7
    OT: Google is now reminding everyone that the Women's Soccer World Cup tournament is underway, and don't they deserve equal mention?

    Of course, this is a good time to remember that in 2016, the Australian Women's National Soccer Team, the Matildas, were beaten 7-0 by a team consisting of fourteen year-old boys.

    I did find some pictures of the Newcastle Jets boys team, but I'm going to follow our national journalistic standard, and not disclose the race of these boys. Isn't it bad enough that only white males can write decent 10,000 word cover stories?

    “Google is now reminding everyone that the Women’s Soccer World Cup tournament is underway, and don’t they deserve equal mention?”

    Have you seen Fox’s “David and Goliath” commercial? It portrayed the U.S. women’s team as such arrogant smacktards it’s got me hoping they get their faces rubbed in the dirt. Good work, Fox.

  83. fish says:
    @Lot
    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/3/18647615/coming-out-transgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff

    http://atxfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Panelist-Todd-VanDerWerff.jpg

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/192597/emily-cropped-small.0.jpg


    The writing in the article is so awful I wonder if Goldberg and the sexist-toward-lab-mice scientists may have a point.

    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    Do any of the narcissistic idiots ever stop to think that we’ve already heard it! We don’t care about your…..ahem…..hobby!

    Go ahead, have fun with your spiffy new vagina!

    Society barely notices anymore!

  84. @Anon
    Is this different from this story in Niemanlab?

    Promoting based on potential: How The Atlantic is putting a lot more women in charge

    “The only way to put women in leadership is to do it for the first time.”

    https://www.niemanlab.org/2019/06/promoting-based-on-potential-how-the-atlantic-is-putting-a-lot-more-women-in-charge/

    In 2016, women made up just 17 percent of editorial leadership at The Atlantic. Today, women account for 63 percent of newsroom leaders (see the masthead here; though this story focuses on the editorial side, there are a lot of women on the business side too). In 2018, 75 percent of new newsroom hires were women.

    This isn’t an accident. The Atlantic — like other news organizations that have sought to diversify their staffs, though there’s still a ton of work to be done — has been intentional about hiring more women and people of color under the leadership of Jeffrey Goldberg, who was appointed editor-in-chief in 2016.
     
    They came out the same day and they are Jekyll and Hyde sides of Goldberg?

    So they specifically don’t hire men. Got it. I guess that men would cease to bother applying to such places since they know they’re not even going to be considered (unless they’ve switched sides).

    Do you suppose this is similar to when blacks say, “Well, there’s no one there who looks like me so I guess I wouldn’t be wanted”?

    What about when an American kids goes to a university engineering department and all the professors and grad students are Asian foreigners? Will he get the idea that he’s not truly welcome?

    Exclusive clubs seem to be part of human nature because I see them everywhere. Oh what to do.

  85. @SFG
    They always were a leftist rag, they just used to talk about other stuff sometimes. Kind of like the way commie professors would still give reasonable talks about French literature or mathematics if it didn't touch on their political views, but now everything has to be woke. When I saw the article on putting social justice into math instruction...

    I kind of feel like the intellectual decline is going to leave at least a small market for highbrow stuff on the right. Granted most bright conservatives are more interested in bull markets than Baudelaire, but there ought to be some market. Whatever happened to the New Criterion?

    The New Criterion is still published 10 issues per year, as always. City Journal and Claremont Review of Books are both quarterlies. Only dead tree periodicals I receive.

  86. @Intelligent Dasein
    This blogger was really, really good. Sadly he is no longer active, but his oeuvre is still up.

    https://spikejapan.wordpress.com/

    Thanks. Interesting link.

    Unfortunately, since Steve isn’t approving my comments, you can’t read what I had to say.

    I guess if I post something he disapproves of, I can’t. Kind of like YouTube and Facebook..

  87. @AnotherDad
    Dovetails with a lot of longer term thought I--and a lot of us--have had …

    I was watching "The Pacific" on Amazon yesterday--the epipsode was on Okinawa--and i had a thought that perhaps the development of nuclear weapons is a big part of what is destroying the West?

    (And this is coming from a guy who has basically been in the "nukes are great!" camp my whole life.)

    Nuclear weapons have at some deep level obviated the core role/responsibility of men to do battle to protect their nation/civilization. If nukes didn't exist, and we constantly trained all young men to be ready to do battle in a higher tech version of World War II, would we be anywhere near this nutty? Especially about men and women? I think the reality of nukes--that ultimately our "protection" is push-button and doesn't rely on male strength, aggression, fortitude--has filtered down through our society, our consciousness and badly distorted women's perception of themselves and men.

    I think the reality of nukes–that ultimately our “protection” is push-button and doesn’t rely on male strength, aggression, fortitude–has filtered down through our society, our consciousness and badly distorted women’s perception of themselves and men.

    Yup. There are reasons civilizations die–usually from a failure to defend the civilization from encroachment by, then compromise with, followed by submission to outsiders/aliens/invaders/conquerors.

    What’s the aphorism about sleeping peaceably at night because rough men stand ready…

  88. @Redneck farmer
    Hmmmmmm. Is writing 10,000 word articles for The Atlantic like coding, engineering, construction, and stable empire-building? You know, doing something very boring over and over again, with a high degree of accuracy, waiting a while for the payoff?

    10,000 words seems awfully chatty and possibly even too familiar with the help.

  89. The thing I ran into with my PhD wife is that she had this vague idea that “scholarly” papers should be entirely abstract, though of course quantitative research was admissible along with quotes with citations.

    What that misses of course is the concrete lifeblood of compelling writing and thus what makes it compelling – the connections between the two, the abstract and concrete.

    She was driving herself nuts trying to fill up papers with pure abstraction, which of course ended up being 90% hot air, and she knew it, and hated it, so avoided writing, which going for tenure isn’t really an option.

    She married me and her worries were soon over, not without tears.

    The other option was talking about her hair, but no one wants to read 10,000 words about that. I’ve noticed other young people struggling with this problem.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    What that misses of course is the concrete lifeblood of compelling writing and thus what makes it compelling – the connections between the two, the abstract and concrete.
     
    Give us an example of "concrete lifeblood of compelling writing" in an academic paper.
    , @Anon

    The thing I ran into with my PhD wife is that she had this vague idea that “scholarly” papers should be entirely abstract, though of course quantitative research was admissible along with quotes with citations.
     
    That's bizarre. She must be in a non-scientific field. As you may or may not know, research papers (for which science is implied in the term) have a universally accepted structure that centers around quantitative research and is generally followed and critiqued in the review process.

    That deviating from that structure is the apparent norm in many fields might be why an individual may not be a worthy of a doctorate unless it is in a science field that has more validity than sociology and psychology. The floor is above those. Anthropology is above the floor but they dragged it under with propaganda and academic intimidation. Its hard to fathom a justification for any credential above a Master of Arts for non-science fields. Imagine having to call someone with a PhD in critical theory, English, or even (always bastardized) history "doctor".

    Such papers serve as references for "truth" for institutional propagandists. One can see how a standard that rests squarely within abstract effluvium would lend itself to the ability to craft that truth out of a block of clay.

  90. @AnotherDad
    Dovetails with a lot of longer term thought I--and a lot of us--have had …

    I was watching "The Pacific" on Amazon yesterday--the epipsode was on Okinawa--and i had a thought that perhaps the development of nuclear weapons is a big part of what is destroying the West?

    (And this is coming from a guy who has basically been in the "nukes are great!" camp my whole life.)

    Nuclear weapons have at some deep level obviated the core role/responsibility of men to do battle to protect their nation/civilization. If nukes didn't exist, and we constantly trained all young men to be ready to do battle in a higher tech version of World War II, would we be anywhere near this nutty? Especially about men and women? I think the reality of nukes--that ultimately our "protection" is push-button and doesn't rely on male strength, aggression, fortitude--has filtered down through our society, our consciousness and badly distorted women's perception of themselves and men.

    Nukes threw off all intuitive cost-benefit analyses. Before nukes, war was much less costly, because the probability of wiping out the species was zero. Now it’s not.

    Everything “crazy” that has arisen after can be seen as a(n) (allergic) reaction to that change. Especially anything that reduces population which is inexplicably popular (such as abortion) is an attempt at war by other means.

  91. @SFG
    They always were a leftist rag, they just used to talk about other stuff sometimes. Kind of like the way commie professors would still give reasonable talks about French literature or mathematics if it didn't touch on their political views, but now everything has to be woke. When I saw the article on putting social justice into math instruction...

    I kind of feel like the intellectual decline is going to leave at least a small market for highbrow stuff on the right. Granted most bright conservatives are more interested in bull markets than Baudelaire, but there ought to be some market. Whatever happened to the New Criterion?

    Granted most bright conservatives are more interested in bull markets than Baudelaire

    As if the two have nothing in common.

  92. Anonymous[267] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius
    The thing I ran into with my PhD wife is that she had this vague idea that “scholarly” papers should be entirely abstract, though of course quantitative research was admissible along with quotes with citations.

    What that misses of course is the concrete lifeblood of compelling writing and thus what makes it compelling - the connections between the two, the abstract and concrete.

    She was driving herself nuts trying to fill up papers with pure abstraction, which of course ended up being 90% hot air, and she knew it, and hated it, so avoided writing, which going for tenure isn’t really an option.

    She married me and her worries were soon over, not without tears.

    The other option was talking about her hair, but no one wants to read 10,000 words about that. I’ve noticed other young people struggling with this problem.

    What that misses of course is the concrete lifeblood of compelling writing and thus what makes it compelling – the connections between the two, the abstract and concrete.

    Give us an example of “concrete lifeblood of compelling writing” in an academic paper.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    No.

    You haven’t earned imperative voice, although your answer is contained in your erstwhile question.
  93. Anonymous[232] • Disclaimer says:

    They work with pen and paper but think with lipstick and mirror.

    From eyelash sensibility to I-Lash journalism.

  94. Give us an example of “concrete lifeblood of compelling writing” in an academic paper.

    I once came upon a completed master’s thesis in geography. The fellow’s goal was to see if the present boundaries of the Chianti region still reflected the realities they were drawn from ages ago.

    I don’t know about the writing, but the pictures sure were compelling– he with his wine-swilling grins next to all these proud vintners.

    “And what was your thesis on?”

  95. @Chrisnonymous

    Why Are Women Becoming Worse Journalists?
     
    We know, Steve, as you taught us well. They are becoming uglier and less like the flaxen-haired, blue-eyed, button-nosed girl next door.

    When Goldberg became editor of The Atlantic, he inherited some fine veteran female writers, such as Caitlyn Flanagan.
     
    Oh, Steve! Oh, Steve! For shame! For shame!

    You just posted a link to a "fine" article that supports your own Law of Female Journalism. You don't see it? It must be because, as the article itself says, "just the word pornography... [people] lose their minds, quite frankly, when they hear that word.”

    Aging, unattractive female journalist writes article contending that young, attractive women who bank on their sex appeal can only be doing it as a "distress signal":


    the tendency of deeply troubled teenage girls to act out sexually as a kind of distress signal, an attempt to get the attention of adults who may not be getting the message that they’re in a crisis...
     
    Yes, because girls don't want to have sex--icky, icky sex.

    Working this out within the closed world of a high school was painful...
     
    Yes, teenagers having sex is unnatural, but herding teenagers into buildings together where they are separated from people of all other age groups is entirely natural, so it's sex to blame for the pain, here, not modern life.

    ...but it was something that could be transcended—eventually everyone moves on and the past settles into place.
     
    If only those attractive young girls would just keep their sights focused on the other side of young adulthood--on becoming an aging, unattractive professional women...

    Girls who feel uncomfortable or shamed about their body are deeply drawn to it. “I liked the attention I got,” Caitlin says of her first foray into selling pictures online; she liked “being called beautiful. I enjoyed it because it made me feel good about myself.”
     
    You see, if someone calls you beautiful and you enjoy it, that means you have body shame. No ones calls me beautiful, and I am not shamed. Shut up!

    The idea... is that it is entirely possible to be an adult performer yet in private life be someone who is perhaps modest... It’s hard to imagine that it’s possible.
     
    Nobody wants to do to modest me the things that are done to young, attractive girls in porn. It must be because they are sluts. I can't imagine any other difference between them and me.

    The right understands porn as a thing for sale, and so has a grudging respect for it. “It’s Trump,” the porn star Eva Lovia told Fortune at the 2016 AVN Awards when she was asked whom she was supporting for president, “because I like my money. I’m sorry! I’m sorry! I want to keep it.”
     
    Okay, so maybe some girls in porn aren't distressed and acting out. But not normal, virtuous women like me! No, no! It's those disgusting conservative Trump supporters!

    TL; DR

    My comment on the article – Caitlin Fink is no Traci Lords!

  96. Anon[195] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius
    The thing I ran into with my PhD wife is that she had this vague idea that “scholarly” papers should be entirely abstract, though of course quantitative research was admissible along with quotes with citations.

    What that misses of course is the concrete lifeblood of compelling writing and thus what makes it compelling - the connections between the two, the abstract and concrete.

    She was driving herself nuts trying to fill up papers with pure abstraction, which of course ended up being 90% hot air, and she knew it, and hated it, so avoided writing, which going for tenure isn’t really an option.

    She married me and her worries were soon over, not without tears.

    The other option was talking about her hair, but no one wants to read 10,000 words about that. I’ve noticed other young people struggling with this problem.

    The thing I ran into with my PhD wife is that she had this vague idea that “scholarly” papers should be entirely abstract, though of course quantitative research was admissible along with quotes with citations.

    That’s bizarre. She must be in a non-scientific field. As you may or may not know, research papers (for which science is implied in the term) have a universally accepted structure that centers around quantitative research and is generally followed and critiqued in the review process.

    That deviating from that structure is the apparent norm in many fields might be why an individual may not be a worthy of a doctorate unless it is in a science field that has more validity than sociology and psychology. The floor is above those. Anthropology is above the floor but they dragged it under with propaganda and academic intimidation. Its hard to fathom a justification for any credential above a Master of Arts for non-science fields. Imagine having to call someone with a PhD in critical theory, English, or even (always bastardized) history “doctor”.

    Such papers serve as references for “truth” for institutional propagandists. One can see how a standard that rests squarely within abstract effluvium would lend itself to the ability to craft that truth out of a block of clay.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    That happens but once my wife got over her mental block she’s written some very good stuff. She’s in the fine (performing) arts.
  97. @Chrisnonymous

    Journalists keep journals.
     
    No, actually, journalers keep journals. Journalists are supposed to produce news and opinions for the edification of their compatriots.

    Journalists are supposed to produce news and opinions for the edification of their compatriots

    Reporters tell you what’s going on.

    Since when do either of them “produce” news? That ain’t their job. It’s their subjects’.

    • Agree: Louis Renault
    • Replies: @Anon

    Journalists are supposed to produce news and opinions for the edification of their compatriots
     

    Reporters tell you what’s going on.
     
    No, they give a narrative of what is going on (otherwise known as propaganda). Its rare that the full context is included even when known.

    Since when do either of them “produce” news? That ain’t their job. It’s their subjects’.
     
    No one is interested in your irrelevant pedantic nonsense.
  98. Anon[364] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon7
    Women’s basketball has a similar problem. My local university has been pushing it for thirty years, with deals that offer a ticket, a hot dog and a soda for $1. The “crowd” peaked at about 300-500, and yes there were lots of women sitting in pairs. And families that couldn’t resist a cheap outing.

    Women’s basketball has a similar problem. My local university has been pushing it for thirty years, with deals that offer a ticket, a hot dog and a soda for $1

    That $1 charge is a truly sad death-grip on a grain of dignity.

    At that price, the seats are already heavily subsidized.

    They’d likely do better financially to offer free seats and then charge advertisers for halftime advertising on the screen based on improved attendance numbers.

  99. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    Why is this head tilted abnormally (about 20 degrees to the right)? Did the photographer tell her/him to do so? Do fashion photographers think a tilted head looks more beautiful than an upright head?

    Why is this head tilted abnormally (about 20 degrees to the right)? Did the photographer tell her/him to do so? Do fashion photographers think a tilted head looks more beautiful than an upright head?

    I think it is a photographer’s one weird trick to disguise asymmetry in the subject.

  100. @anonymous
    I don't know, maybe there is some white male favoritism for huge cover stories in The Atlantic.

    Did you read the hilariously bad cover story about Andrew Anglin? On his own site Anglin destroyed the story and the author in such devastating fashion they were never heard from again. Anglin rightly pointed out everyone else in media was too embarrassed to talk about what was supposed to be an epic takedown of the alt-right monster under the bed because The Atlantic piece was just that bad.

    A link would be helpful. I thought Anglin had been relegated to the dark web.

  101. Anon[139] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Journalists are supposed to produce news and opinions for the edification of their compatriots
     
    Reporters tell you what's going on.

    Since when do either of them "produce" news? That ain't their job. It's their subjects'.

    Journalists are supposed to produce news and opinions for the edification of their compatriots

    Reporters tell you what’s going on.

    No, they give a narrative of what is going on (otherwise known as propaganda). Its rare that the full context is included even when known.

    Since when do either of them “produce” news? That ain’t their job. It’s their subjects’.

    No one is interested in your irrelevant pedantic nonsense.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    No, they give a narrative of what is going on (otherwise known as propaganda).
     
    If it's propaganda, it's not reporting.

    No one is interested in your irrelevant pedantic nonsense.
     
    The fussy term journalistis what's pedantic. Whatever happened to newsmen?

    Next you'll be telling us racist, sexist, and homophobic are real words.
  102. @Anon
    This is so disturbing to me. He, ur, she has a wife, who is tweating their "journey" and affirming "tall wife." She seems to be full Stockholm. Culturally, being also a New York-based writer, she would be committing social and career suicide by not being supportive.

    So all of a sudden she's a lesbian, no strap-on required, because her wife has a dick down there somewhere under his panniculus. They are late 30s, to late for wifey to divorce and have kids with a guy. Pretty soon the discussion will turn to, Let's have kids. Sit on my frontpole. My ladynuggets have all you need to get knocked up. (He writes about dreams where he's driving around with his future daughter.)

    Oh God in heaven, what is going on down here?

    A surprisingly high share of wives in this situation stand by their she-man. I think Steve’s billionaire trannie UCLA classmate is still married to his/her/zer wife.

    • Replies: @anonymous

    A surprisingly high share of wives in this situation stand by their she-man
     
    I can’t understand this at all, I find it beyond repulsive, not to mention insulting as a woman. There is a man, late 30s/early 40s, in one of my Facebook discussion groups who is transitioning, he shares photos of his look with the group sometimes, and his wife hasn’t left him. Thankfully, they have no children. Since it seems to becoming some sort of a fad - I know two women at our high school whose daughters turned into “sons” - I already told my kids and husband the moment they decide they’ve been women all along and start wearing women’s clothes is the moment they’re dead to me. I’m not getting dragged along on that rollercoaster.
  103. @Chrisnonymous
    Why are you posting research from 12 years ago?

    Thought it was interesting. Here’s a 2016 summary saying the same thing.

    https://www.sciencealert.com/no-you-probably-don-t-need-to-get-your-wisdom-teeth-removed-ever

  104. @Calvin Hobbes
    OT (but very iStevey!) response to your OT comment:

    These Girls’ Soccer Players Joined Boys’ Leagues. And Dominated.
    Spanish clubs like Barcelona, Atlético Madrid and Athletic Bilbao are increasingly testing their girls’ teams in leagues filled with boys’ teams. Is this the future of women’s soccer development?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/06/sports/barcelona-girls-soccer-womens-world-cup.html

    NYT article about how in Spain there are girls soccer teams kicking the butts of boys teams.
    I think it’s the best 12-year-old girls in the country playing neighborhood boys teams and beating them, but it’s played up as though it shows that females can be just as good at sports as males.
    The pictures reinforce the message, with a couple of the pictures showing dejected boys, presumably dejected about having lost to girls.

    As far as I can tell, Athletic Bilbao and Athletic Madrid are professional clubs, that gather the best of the best from across the country. Also, the selection of ages is key; 12 year old girls and 12 year old boys are closer, since puberty hasn’t happened yet. Fourteen year-old boys and girls are starting to move apart, but not so much that 99% percentile girls can’t give 40-50th percentile boys a good game.

    I note that these professional clubs cut the mixed games off at sixteen; soccer can be a rough game, and you don’t want players (girls) getting hurt. Of course, most boys can be counted on to defer to girls, and not play as hard; beating a girls team doesn’t carry much prestige for boys. Anyone who has played coed sports knows that there is a lot of social pressure for men to downplay their skills, and god forbid you should injure or hurt the feelings of one of the women you are playing with. Or at least that was true in the 1980’s when I participated in such sports.

    It always amazes me that intelligent women are completely cozened by this kind of reporting; men and women are equal! Then when you tell them that Serena Williams was never better than about World number 700 in tennis, if you counted men and women both, they can’t handle it. Even Serena admits she plays girls because they’re, well, girls. You should see her trying to handle serves from men.

    I’m afraid that boys are also susceptible. Average boys (who probably rarely even go outside) playing 99th percentile girls when they’re 14 gives them the idea that girls can really compete, a useless notion once everyone has passed puberty.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    At indoor soccer, with the cupcakes who think they're Xena or Wonder Women, you just hip check them into the boards and they get the message soon enough.

    Never had to bring the elbows up for anyone but the dudes who think they're in the World Cup final.
  105. @Lot
    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/3/18647615/coming-out-transgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff

    http://atxfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Panelist-Todd-VanDerWerff.jpg

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/192597/emily-cropped-small.0.jpg


    The writing in the article is so awful I wonder if Goldberg and the sexist-toward-lab-mice scientists may have a point.

    Chris Farley, followed by Chris Farley in a wig and make-up. Good grief

  106. “Why Are Women Becoming Worse Journalists?“

    Low expectations?

    Men tend to pad their articles with data, facts, history, explanations and arguments. As for women, it’s hard to get a high word count when all you’ve got to work with is feelz.

  107. @eah
    such as Caitlyn Flanagan

    What, in your opinion, makes her a 'fine writer'? -- is it her style? (ala Nabokov) -- her skillful exposition? -- her choice of topics? -- insightfulness? -- what?

    serious work

    Yes, "work" -- I've made light of such women in the "workforce" before -- of course writing is work, and often difficult: collecting findings and thoughts, organizing them into a flowing exposition, putting all that down in words with the appropriate style and nuance -- done well, it's genuine intellectual activity requiring high intelligence and erudition.

    But as "work", how useful is it, really? -- especially writing by women published on the internet, which can only really be a vehicle to sell advertising -- as opposed to the same (what I will call) genetically advantaged women choosing and placing marriage, family, and motherhood first?

    clickbait junk

    But that's the business of the internet -- a website that publishes only "serious work" (whatever you exactly mean by that) will, presumably, attract far fewer readers who hang around longer, and therefore won't reload the page and hence see only the same few ads -- whereas "clickbait junk" generates significantly more page views of sufficient duration to ensure the same ads are seen far more often.

    Just as via entropy the universe trends toward disorganization and chaos, the internet trends toward "clickbait junk" -- that appears to be its destiny.

    And what of a civilization whose genetically advantaged women disproportionately forgo motherhood for the sake of such "serious work"?

    Pretty sure internet journalism would be one of the easiest careers for women with lots of children.

    I mean writing is decidedly non-physical. Not sure a lot of modern writers even spend all that much time in an office.

    • Replies: @eah
    Pretty sure internet journalism would be one of the easiest careers for women with lots of children.

    Maybe -- the "serious work" of writing was just an example prompted by this post -- the larger issue is women in the general "workforce" -- and the fact is, since 'women's liberation' marriage rates have declined dramatically, along with the birthrate -- Fewer Births Than Deaths Among Whites in Majority of U.S. States -- so you seemed to somewhat miss the point -- it's not clear why -- to make it clear: most of the "work" done by women in the "workforce", including the "serious work" of writing, is not really all that useful, especially when you look at in the context of the demographic decline of Whites.

    Per her bio, Flanagan has two children -- some of her writing is interesting: The parents indicted in the college-admissions scandal were responding to a changing America, with rage at being robbed of what they believed was rightfully theirs.
  108. @HammerJack

    Women evolved on one factor only–beauty. They do not have the brain to take care of themselves, to know right from wrong, and need a man to take charge of their life
     
    Though I really hate to take the side of feminists in any dispute, I feel constrained to point out that most men today can barely manage their own lives, much less anyone else's.

    This was always true; one of the reasons for the temperance movement was that large numbers of middle and working class men were turning into drunken layabouts that left their families neglected and impoverished.

    Honestly you can’t get rid of feminism without returning to other old fashioned hierarchies too.

    A lot of average people, man or woman, don’t need to be in charge of things. That’s why aristocrats and civil servant classes and noblesse oblige and all that once existed.

    • Agree: bomag
  109. @Anon
    I'm in a profession that is mostly women. It's chaos.

    Roughly 4 in 10 are competent, normal, and are a pleasure to work with. The rest are a mix of gross incompetency born out of IQ that is not high enough for the work (standards are continuously lowered to allow for ever-easier entry of the broader female group), emotional dysfunction that manifests in swings that they take out on other people often based on what their broken minds tell them to interpret in their interpersonal interactions that is not there (though some are simply little balls of hate), and irrational cruelty in an effort to compensate for low self-esteem when given the most minimal authority. Accountability is nil and requests for such are met with quiet rage that you can be sure will be vented in some manner down the road. This is all often mixed together in a single individual.

  110. @Lot
    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/3/18647615/coming-out-transgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff

    http://atxfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Panelist-Todd-VanDerWerff.jpg

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/192597/emily-cropped-small.0.jpg


    The writing in the article is so awful I wonder if Goldberg and the sexist-toward-lab-mice scientists may have a point.

    I read about half that article.

    Then I took a shower.

    Then I had a shot of Ukrainian vodka from the freezer.

    Then I took another shower.

  111. @Lot
    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/3/18647615/coming-out-transgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff

    http://atxfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Panelist-Todd-VanDerWerff.jpg

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/192597/emily-cropped-small.0.jpg


    The writing in the article is so awful I wonder if Goldberg and the sexist-toward-lab-mice scientists may have a point.

    Isnt that the same dope who wrote something for the AV Club on how he and his wife were hundreds of thousands in debt?

  112. @Anon
    This is so disturbing to me. He, ur, she has a wife, who is tweating their "journey" and affirming "tall wife." She seems to be full Stockholm. Culturally, being also a New York-based writer, she would be committing social and career suicide by not being supportive.

    So all of a sudden she's a lesbian, no strap-on required, because her wife has a dick down there somewhere under his panniculus. They are late 30s, to late for wifey to divorce and have kids with a guy. Pretty soon the discussion will turn to, Let's have kids. Sit on my frontpole. My ladynuggets have all you need to get knocked up. (He writes about dreams where he's driving around with his future daughter.)

    Oh God in heaven, what is going on down here?

    Me? I waaay past the curiosity (much less faking interest) stage to read about these weirdos and their totally fucked-up lives..

    Increasingly, it really is “life is too short.”

  113. @Oleaginous Outrager

    But the Current Year isn’t doing much to hone female talent
     
    I'm beginning to believe many recent college "graduates" have plodded through four to eight years of postsecondary schooling without ever submitting any writing of more than two paragraphs because grading on grammar, style and content is a tool of white patriarchal oppression.

    A Madison Ave. ad exec friend of mine from over a decade ago reported to me that without exception, every college graduate junior copywriter they hired couldn’t write. They had to teach them on the job.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    By what criteria were they hired?
  114. @Sue D. Nim
    The first rule of Lesbian Football : NO ONE CARES ABOUT LESBIAN FOOTBALL

    The second rule of Lesbian Football : NO ONE CARES ABOUT LESBIAN FOOTBALL

    Pornhub says you don’t know what you’re talking about.

  115. @Cagey Beast
    OT:
    This is funny and it shows what games a White guy feels he has to play to keep a seat in this game of musical chairs:

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1136618061803528192

    https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1136620919135395840

    I dunno. I tried reading Chris Amade’s article in First Things, and couldn’t stay with it. He’s another lefty who went on a journey of self-discovery, and believes he’s Christopher Columbus reporting back to Ferdinand and Isabella. The left really has a self-awareness problem. (Mostly because they live in a bubble world of their own, completely oblivious to the lives of others.)

    Hunt’s Point in the Bronx is chronically poor, and miserable. And 50 years (and $100 billion later) of Great Society programs have had little impact on the impoverished in the US. It doesn’t make the news because it is commonplace.

    And Greenwald referring to them as working class misses the mark.

    https://www.firstthings.com/article/2019/06/back-row-america

  116. @Kyle
    They should be named the Sheilas instead of the Matildas.

    Wasn’t the “Sheilas” taken by the Irish women’s team… Or are they the “Colleens”?

    I can never keep it straight…

  117. @Anon

    Journalists are supposed to produce news and opinions for the edification of their compatriots
     

    Reporters tell you what’s going on.
     
    No, they give a narrative of what is going on (otherwise known as propaganda). Its rare that the full context is included even when known.

    Since when do either of them “produce” news? That ain’t their job. It’s their subjects’.
     
    No one is interested in your irrelevant pedantic nonsense.

    No, they give a narrative of what is going on (otherwise known as propaganda).

    If it’s propaganda, it’s not reporting.

    No one is interested in your irrelevant pedantic nonsense.

    The fussy term journalistis what’s pedantic. Whatever happened to newsmen?

    Next you’ll be telling us racist, sexist, and homophobic are real words.

  118. @Anon7
    As far as I can tell, Athletic Bilbao and Athletic Madrid are professional clubs, that gather the best of the best from across the country. Also, the selection of ages is key; 12 year old girls and 12 year old boys are closer, since puberty hasn't happened yet. Fourteen year-old boys and girls are starting to move apart, but not so much that 99% percentile girls can't give 40-50th percentile boys a good game.

    I note that these professional clubs cut the mixed games off at sixteen; soccer can be a rough game, and you don't want players (girls) getting hurt. Of course, most boys can be counted on to defer to girls, and not play as hard; beating a girls team doesn't carry much prestige for boys. Anyone who has played coed sports knows that there is a lot of social pressure for men to downplay their skills, and god forbid you should injure or hurt the feelings of one of the women you are playing with. Or at least that was true in the 1980's when I participated in such sports.

    It always amazes me that intelligent women are completely cozened by this kind of reporting; men and women are equal! Then when you tell them that Serena Williams was never better than about World number 700 in tennis, if you counted men and women both, they can't handle it. Even Serena admits she plays girls because they're, well, girls. You should see her trying to handle serves from men.

    I'm afraid that boys are also susceptible. Average boys (who probably rarely even go outside) playing 99th percentile girls when they're 14 gives them the idea that girls can really compete, a useless notion once everyone has passed puberty.

    At indoor soccer, with the cupcakes who think they’re Xena or Wonder Women, you just hip check them into the boards and they get the message soon enough.

    Never had to bring the elbows up for anyone but the dudes who think they’re in the World Cup final.

  119. @Anonymous

    What that misses of course is the concrete lifeblood of compelling writing and thus what makes it compelling – the connections between the two, the abstract and concrete.
     
    Give us an example of "concrete lifeblood of compelling writing" in an academic paper.

    No.

    You haven’t earned imperative voice, although your answer is contained in your erstwhile question.

  120. @Anon

    The thing I ran into with my PhD wife is that she had this vague idea that “scholarly” papers should be entirely abstract, though of course quantitative research was admissible along with quotes with citations.
     
    That's bizarre. She must be in a non-scientific field. As you may or may not know, research papers (for which science is implied in the term) have a universally accepted structure that centers around quantitative research and is generally followed and critiqued in the review process.

    That deviating from that structure is the apparent norm in many fields might be why an individual may not be a worthy of a doctorate unless it is in a science field that has more validity than sociology and psychology. The floor is above those. Anthropology is above the floor but they dragged it under with propaganda and academic intimidation. Its hard to fathom a justification for any credential above a Master of Arts for non-science fields. Imagine having to call someone with a PhD in critical theory, English, or even (always bastardized) history "doctor".

    Such papers serve as references for "truth" for institutional propagandists. One can see how a standard that rests squarely within abstract effluvium would lend itself to the ability to craft that truth out of a block of clay.

    That happens but once my wife got over her mental block she’s written some very good stuff. She’s in the fine (performing) arts.

  121. @Forbes
    A Madison Ave. ad exec friend of mine from over a decade ago reported to me that without exception, every college graduate junior copywriter they hired couldn't write. They had to teach them on the job.

    By what criteria were they hired?

  122. @TwentyCents

    When Goldberg became editor of The Atlantic, he inherited some fine veteran female writers, such as Caitlyn Flanagan.
     
    Flanagan is a great writer. A rare example of someone I want to read to get the feminine perspective on things. I mean there are women writers whose opinion I want to know like Meghan McArdle or Heather MacDonald but not because they have a feminine point of view. And of course there are the mechanically predictable dreary hordes of feminist writers. She even managed to produce a readable defense of Blasey-Ford.

    Right, Caitlyn Flanagan is great at giving the feminine perspective.

    Her dad’s big Irish history novel, The Year of the French, is excellent.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    Caitlin Flanagan is also Andrew Klavan's sister-in-law, if I recall correctly.

    I've generally found her articles enjoyable and worthwhile reading.

  123. Anonymous[320] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    According to Weston Price, it's not evolution that makes your jaw too small for your wisdom teeth, it's your lousy modern diet. He did research all over the planet back in the 1930s and discovered that everyone who ate an ancestral diet, (including small communities in the Swiss Alps and isolated areas of Scotland) grew jaws with enough room for their wisdom teeth. Nor did their teeth decay when they ate a diet without refined sugar.

    Price wrote that when you're not as well-nourished as you should be, the first place it shows up is in your face. Your jaw does not grow to its full maximum biological potential, and your teeth start being crowded and overlapping. You can also become a mouth breather because the holes in your nasal bones are too narrow for you to breathe easily through them. Nature takes your calcium and puts it elsewhere where the need is greater instead of making the front of your skull bigger.

    There is a theory that eating raw vegetables in childhood (eg giving your children a raw carrot to chew on while they wait for dinner) promotes jaw growth and leaves room for wisdom teeth.

  124. @Steve Sailer
    Right, Caitlyn Flanagan is great at giving the feminine perspective.

    Her dad's big Irish history novel, The Year of the French, is excellent.

    Caitlin Flanagan is also Andrew Klavan’s sister-in-law, if I recall correctly.

    I’ve generally found her articles enjoyable and worthwhile reading.

  125. anonymous[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    A surprisingly high share of wives in this situation stand by their she-man. I think Steve’s billionaire trannie UCLA classmate is still married to his/her/zer wife.

    A surprisingly high share of wives in this situation stand by their she-man

    I can’t understand this at all, I find it beyond repulsive, not to mention insulting as a woman. There is a man, late 30s/early 40s, in one of my Facebook discussion groups who is transitioning, he shares photos of his look with the group sometimes, and his wife hasn’t left him. Thankfully, they have no children. Since it seems to becoming some sort of a fad – I know two women at our high school whose daughters turned into “sons” – I already told my kids and husband the moment they decide they’ve been women all along and start wearing women’s clothes is the moment they’re dead to me. I’m not getting dragged along on that rollercoaster.

  126. eah says:
    @S. Anonyia
    Pretty sure internet journalism would be one of the easiest careers for women with lots of children.

    I mean writing is decidedly non-physical. Not sure a lot of modern writers even spend all that much time in an office.

    Pretty sure internet journalism would be one of the easiest careers for women with lots of children.

    Maybe — the “serious work” of writing was just an example prompted by this post — the larger issue is women in the general “workforce” — and the fact is, since ‘women’s liberation’ marriage rates have declined dramatically, along with the birthrate — Fewer Births Than Deaths Among Whites in Majority of U.S. States — so you seemed to somewhat miss the point — it’s not clear why — to make it clear: most of the “work” done by women in the “workforce”, including the “serious work” of writing, is not really all that useful, especially when you look at in the context of the demographic decline of Whites.

    Per her bio, Flanagan has two children — some of her writing is interesting: The parents indicted in the college-admissions scandal were responding to a changing America, with rage at being robbed of what they believed was rightfully theirs.

    • Replies: @dfordoom

    to make it clear: most of the “work” done by women in the “workforce”, including the “serious work” of writing, is not really all that useful, especially when you look at in the context of the demographic decline of Whites.
     
    A very large proportion of the jobs done by women are essentially hobby jobs. That includes almost all the jobs done by middle-class college-educated women.

    Mind you, a good deal of the work done by middle-class college-educated men is also useless. We have strange ideas of what constitutes work these days.
  127. @Redneck farmer
    Hmmmmmm. Is writing 10,000 word articles for The Atlantic like coding, engineering, construction, and stable empire-building? You know, doing something very boring over and over again, with a high degree of accuracy, waiting a while for the payoff?

    Hmmmmmm. Is writing 10,000 word articles for The Atlantic like coding, engineering, construction, and stable empire-building?

    Kind of. i can tell you from experience that the women writers I worked with would write an 18 inch story in 40 inches. Women, for the most part, can’t break down a boring subject (flood insurance rates, for example) and make it short and somewhat punchy. None of them could do 10k words and make it interesting. Not saying it’s not possible, but like higher math, it’s rare. (btw, not that I can do high math, I hate it).

  128. @anonymous
    I don't know, maybe there is some white male favoritism for huge cover stories in The Atlantic.

    Did you read the hilariously bad cover story about Andrew Anglin? On his own site Anglin destroyed the story and the author in such devastating fashion they were never heard from again. Anglin rightly pointed out everyone else in media was too embarrassed to talk about what was supposed to be an epic takedown of the alt-right monster under the bed because The Atlantic piece was just that bad.

    I don’t know, maybe there is some white male favoritism for huge cover stories in The Atlantic.

    We’re better off in the long run if we nurture a cult of the White male.

    Otherwise, we get the cult of the Female; or the cult of the Black; or the cult of the Asian; etc., and they sure don’t apologize much for their incompetents.

  129. How long before Jeffrey Goldberg gets me-tooed out the door by some of his affirmative action hires?

  130. In addition to the eternal problem of insufficient testosterone and IQ, female writers’ problems include having spent X number of years in overpriced, private universities (OPUs) in which simply having ovaries and the correct politics entailed never being held to any intellectual or stylistic standards.

    ‘But I made the Dean’s List every semester!’

  131. @Anon
    I'm in a profession that is mostly women. It's chaos.

    Roughly 4 in 10 are competent, normal, and are a pleasure to work with. The rest are a mix of gross incompetency born out of IQ that is not high enough for the work (standards are continuously lowered to allow for ever-easier entry of the broader female group), emotional dysfunction that manifests in swings that they take out on other people often based on what their broken minds tell them to interpret in their interpersonal interactions that is not there (though some are simply little balls of hate), and irrational cruelty in an effort to compensate for low self-esteem when given the most minimal authority. Accountability is nil and requests for such are met with quiet rage that you can be sure will be vented in some manner down the road. This is all often mixed together in a single individual.

    What industry?

  132. @eah
    Pretty sure internet journalism would be one of the easiest careers for women with lots of children.

    Maybe -- the "serious work" of writing was just an example prompted by this post -- the larger issue is women in the general "workforce" -- and the fact is, since 'women's liberation' marriage rates have declined dramatically, along with the birthrate -- Fewer Births Than Deaths Among Whites in Majority of U.S. States -- so you seemed to somewhat miss the point -- it's not clear why -- to make it clear: most of the "work" done by women in the "workforce", including the "serious work" of writing, is not really all that useful, especially when you look at in the context of the demographic decline of Whites.

    Per her bio, Flanagan has two children -- some of her writing is interesting: The parents indicted in the college-admissions scandal were responding to a changing America, with rage at being robbed of what they believed was rightfully theirs.

    to make it clear: most of the “work” done by women in the “workforce”, including the “serious work” of writing, is not really all that useful, especially when you look at in the context of the demographic decline of Whites.

    A very large proportion of the jobs done by women are essentially hobby jobs. That includes almost all the jobs done by middle-class college-educated women.

    Mind you, a good deal of the work done by middle-class college-educated men is also useless. We have strange ideas of what constitutes work these days.

  133. @Lot
    Vox writer: In March 2018 I was a heterosexual 37-year-old man with a wife. While watching Handmaid’s Tale, I realized I was really a woman, and a year later am taking female hormones.

    https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/3/18647615/coming-out-transgender-handmaids-tale-emily-todd-vanderwerff

    http://atxfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Panelist-Todd-VanDerWerff.jpg

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/author_profile_images/192597/emily-cropped-small.0.jpg


    The writing in the article is so awful I wonder if Goldberg and the sexist-toward-lab-mice scientists may have a point.

    This whole trans movement is surely some sort of joke to see how far these people will go in support of being tolerant. It’s like when Spy magazine convinced some random passerbys to dress in pink bunny suits and chant “ hey hey ho ho red meat has to go” outside of a make up factory.

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