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Here’s an interesting article by a rare woman (1%) with colorblindness about some new technology for helping the colorblind get by in a color-obsessed world.

Among men, colorblindness is not uncommon (8%).

I can remember back in the 1980s being lectured by a male executive on the need for Colorblind Sensitivity in presentations. At the time as personal computers were being introduced, color accessories such as screens, printers, and, rarest of all, fax machines, were significantly more expensive and less sharp than monochrome accessories. Sensitivity to the colorblind was an additional argument I used in the 1980s in arguing against going to a universal standard of color personal computer equipment. But my resistance to color accessories 33 years ago got washed away by the tremendous end-user demand for color.

The colorblind, like left handers, are another set of people who seem like a potential Identity Politics grievance group, but, at least in the Current Year, they are not.

For some groups, everyday is Festivus when it comes to their Airing of Grievances, but for other potential collections of people, nobody cares. Why?

Left Hander Sensitivity just isn’t a Thing in the Current Year. In the Progressive Stack, it’s not that Left Handers are at the bottom, it’s that they just don’t exist. Same for the Colorblind. As @ModernCortes asks: What color are Colorblind Awareness Ribbons?

 
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  1. We left-handed are too busy saving the world from ignorant right people, you stupid handist!

    • Replies: @Anon
    Here an Unz writer enumerating all the mostly negative stuff associated with sinistrality:

    http://www.unz.com/article/are-southpaws-really-sinister-increased-incidence-suggests-were-headed-for-mouse-utopia-collapse/

    Wikipedia lists some of this stuff also. Mitchell in "Innate" classifies left handedness as partly weakly genetic, but mostly due to random glitches during fetal development of the brain, the same as homosexuality.
  2. Here’s an interesting article by a rare woman (1%) with colorblindness about some new technology for helping the colorblind get by in a color-obsessed world.

    Among men, colorblindness is not uncommon (8%).

    Is that the reverse ratio of breast cancer?

    We may never see ribbons for colorblindness. What color would they be, anyway?

    • Replies: @James Speaks

    We may never see ribbons for colorblindness. What color would they be, anyway?
     
    Plaid. Polka dots. Paisley.
    , @Hypnotoad666
    Steve misses the obvious advantage of being colorblind in the Current Year: No one can accuse you of racism, as you can legitimately say "when it comes to people, I don't see color."
    , @Oddsbodkins
    They would be Facebook blue. Facebook's lousy color scheme is supposedly a legacy of Zuck's colorblindness.
  3. There is a lot of confusion on this issue, but my understanding is true “colorblindness” is very, very rare; color-deficiency, almost always on red-green, occurs at something like the rates you provide (among Whites: ~1% female, ~8% male). People with the deficiency can still distinguish all colors, including red and green, but a graph with red bars and green bars side by side will be a few notches harder to distinguish (akin to one’s glasses slightly fogging up), as will Christmas card printing with green letters on red background. These are generally trivial problems.

    I believe the red-green deficiency specifically has been found to be a lot less common in hunter-gatherers.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    I have the color deficiency. It also extends to blue and purple, but I can see all colors.

    I'm also left handed. Where's my free tuition???
    , @CrunchybutRealistCon
    Yeah, In the past 5 years, several brands of glasses (expensive) were introduced which help correct partial color blindness. It must be an intense sensation to put them on for someone who gets a big boost in color awareness. Like a good version of "They Live"
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    The real killer for a colour-blind person (apart from being barred from many UK jobs e.g. electrician, pilot, railway workers from level crossing keepers to train drivers) are maps or pie charts with many different colours. There's a small key on the side, but mapping two different shades of red or brown from the key onto a map is damn hard - ideally I'd like to see the key colours numbered and at least one of each number on the actual map or diagram.

    Geological maps are a nightmare for this. We actually seem to have gone backward in that while modern geology maps don't do it, here's a 1910 map with numbered colours.

    https://www.southampton.ac.uk/~imw/jpg-Geological-Maps/8GB-Old-Map-British-Isles-m.jpg
    , @Old Palo Altan
    An excellent short explanation.

    I've got the red-green kind, and it is astonishing how quickly people jump to the conclusion that it means seeing neither green nor red at all. And few of them like being enlightened about it either - they enjoy the sudden feeling of superiority.
    My mother's father had it too and told an interesting story: when automobiles started going fast enough to be dangerous, and traffic lights were therefore introduced, they were, as now, red and green. Trouble was, they were not easily distinguished from one another by people like him (and he was an enthusiastic motorist from around 1900, and an original member of the Royal Automobile Club in London, so he wasn't about to give this newfangled hobby up), and accidents were embarrassingly frequent.
    Anyway the science boffins fixed it (no doubt someone here can tell us how) and people found other ways to crash their cars.
  4. @Hail
    There is a lot of confusion on this issue, but my understanding is true "colorblindness" is very, very rare; color-deficiency, almost always on red-green, occurs at something like the rates you provide (among Whites: ~1% female, ~8% male). People with the deficiency can still distinguish all colors, including red and green, but a graph with red bars and green bars side by side will be a few notches harder to distinguish (akin to one's glasses slightly fogging up), as will Christmas card printing with green letters on red background. These are generally trivial problems.

    I believe the red-green deficiency specifically has been found to be a lot less common in hunter-gatherers.

    I have the color deficiency. It also extends to blue and purple, but I can see all colors.

    I’m also left handed. Where’s my free tuition???

    • LOL: MBlanc46
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    TESTIFY, BROTHER!
    , @MartyH
    @MikeatMikedotMike ... when you find out, let me know! Me Too!
  5. This is what white girls see everyday in public schools

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXGL8Ipc-Y0&feature=youtu.be

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Can’t see his name without thinking about this.

    https://youtu.be/vOn7WxHjbXI
    , @Mr McKenna
    TD, is it really appropriate for you to be posting your j/o material here?

    But yeah, for once you're close to being right: black-on-white violence every day in America's schools..

    PS: Rich Franklin is also a high school math teacher.

    PPS: Here's what happened when your hero tangled with a Nazi Boy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJWIzPOTlXg

  6. @Reg Cæsar

    Here’s an interesting article by a rare woman (1%) with colorblindness about some new technology for helping the colorblind get by in a color-obsessed world.

    Among men, colorblindness is not uncommon (8%).
     
    Is that the reverse ratio of breast cancer?

    We may never see ribbons for colorblindness. What color would they be, anyway?

    We may never see ribbons for colorblindness. What color would they be, anyway?

    Plaid. Polka dots. Paisley.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    Braille.
  7. “significantly more expensive and less sharp than monochrome accessories”

    Color laser printers are still twice as expensive and break 4 times as fast.

    You can see this in copy shops that still charge about ten times as much for color printing.

    • Replies: @Clyde

    Color laser printers are still twice as expensive and break 4 times as fast.
     
    I only buy and use black - white laser printers. I am on a Brother these days. Printers always are problems while MS Windows computers lots less/
  8. ‘Why Are the Colorblind Not an Identity Politics When It Comes to the Airing of Grievances?’

    That’s actually kind of a good question. I’m left-handed — and I’ve thought about bitching sarcastically about that — but it really isn’t a significant matter. However, being colorblind would pose problems.

    …although you would almost necessarily be immune to charges of racism.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    Not sure about that last part. Color blind is like a duck blind.
  9. ‘…We may never see ribbons for colorblindness. What color would they be, anyway?’

    ‘Color’ would be a very hurtful term to use around the spectrum-challenged.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    If color- blindness increases, will parents blame their child's school problems as "He's off the spectrum"?
    , @Pericles
    They are, if you will, on the spectrum.
  10. Is colorblindness equally common among races? If not, you might have your answer.

    I’m not sure if I’m colorblind or not. I walk through some neighborhoods at night, all I see is teeth.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter
    Color blindness is complex ... there are several forms.

    The reason it strikes males more frequently is that two of the Opsin genes for color vision are on the X chromosome, near each other.

    If one or other of those are defective in a male, he has one of three (I think) forms of color blindness and one of the two that strike men. Technically, that makes such a man a dichromat not a trichromat.

    However, women have a second X chromosome that can make up for a defect on the other chromosome, which explains why women have this condition less frequently than men. They can also be tetrachromats, which men can never be. Such women can make vastly finer color distinctions than any one else can.

    Because all old-world primates have the same color vision architecture, there can be no racial differences in the incidence of color blindness unless the defective genes have been eliminated completely from a particular racial group, but even then, "mutations" could still reintroduce it.

    If he has a defective gene that is on the autosomal chromosome that carries the third Opsin gene, the carries the third, as would a woman who has the same genetic defect. Men and women

    There are plenty of details on Wikipedia etc.
  11. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    There are different kinds of colorblindness, some of which are primarily or exclusively found in males and other types that impact males and females equally. Red-green color blindness is mostly male, I think, and is most common.

    Men with this were excluded from flying airplanes for decades, but there is nothing inherent in red-green color blindness that makes one incapable of flying an airplane except that red and green were arbitrarily chosen for markings on aircraft instruments and for the light gun signals that today are only used in emergencies, in case of total radio or electrical failure. With modern fly by wire aircraft, total electrical failure means losing the airplane anyway, making it sort of a moot issue.

    When I went to A&P school, I was horrified to find that in most aircraft all the wires are the same color, marked with tiny numbers by a roll arking machine. When I suggested they be color code like in telecom or , well, anywhere else, the instructor said that was something mechanics opposed since a disproportionate number of A&P mechanics were red green color blind, having become mechanics instead of pilots for that very reason.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    But, unlike it is at most schools today, parking was always adequate and free, am I right?

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3807/13320602114_05bdf0ca27_b.jpg
    , @OFWHAP
    My colorblind uncle went to the Air Force Academy and served in Vietnam as a mechanic. My dad and the rest of his brothers were exempt from the draft due to their being colorblind. If anything I'd say they were privileged by not having to serve in any kind of combat roles in Vietnam.
  12. Heh. Southpaw AND colorblind, right here.

    Spent a modest lifetime just dealing with it: I take extra care using scissors, limit the color pallet of my wardrobe, that sort of thing. But now that you mention it, maybe I’ve just been a victim of stereotype threat.

    So where’s my check?

  13. Frank Costanza was easily the best character on that show – George was the next best.

    The fact that Frank overcame his cooking-related PTSD to invent the manssiere is a triumph of the human spirit.

    It’s weird that the Costanza family are Italian Catholic (through Frank) – Estelle’s backstory is never fleshed out, but she is stereotypically a Queens jewess (“I won’t ride in a German car”) so George is (matrilinearly) Jewish.

    Would a 1950s Italian Catholic – who is a member of the Knights of Columbus – marry a Jewess?

    Yeah, sure – why not.

    The Costanza actors’ original family names: Stiller, Nussbaum, and Greenspan. Nothing to see here.

    That doesn’t change that George, Frank and Estelle were the funniest people on the show; I just wonder what trick Larry David thought he was getting away with (he fancies himself as cerebral).

    .

    Elaine Benes – also supposedly a shiksa.

    Elaine: the Louis-Dreyfus were originally Jews from Alsace, but since Jewishness is supposedly matrilinear that wouldn’t be relevant and her mother was Pennsylvania Dutch/Anglo hybrid. Plus she doesn’t ‘identify’.

    JONJ still wants her, though.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Tough to argue against Kramer as the best character - Michael Richards was better at physical comedy than anyone since John Ritter - but Frank was great too.
    , @Hibernian
    After my having lived for many years in Chicago, I'd say an Italian man marrying a Jewish woman and belonging to the K of C, even among the older generation, is not entirely implausible.
    , @propagandist hacker
    it's well known that Seinfeld was a show based on the jewish cultural trope of the schlemiel vs the schlimazel (George Costanza==schlemiel and the schlimazel was Jerry)...Laverne and Shirley was a show designed along the same lines...
  14. Color-blindness is most common among men of northern European descent.
    Problems that affect such people are not really problems.

  15. Why Are the Colorblind Not an Identity Politics When It Comes to the Airing of Grievances?

    If they could only get angry…………….but then they’re no good at seeing red.

    • LOL: Hibernian
  16. • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    As Vox frames the controversy, "Sanders’s Democratic critics are accusing him of trying to upstage a black woman, part of what they say is a long-running blind spot on issues of race and gender."

    So letting a couple of BLM harpies literally upstage him at one of his own campaign appearances didn't buy him any forgiveness.
  17. The impossible color tricks in this article all work for me.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_color

    Doing them all one after another will give you a slight eyeball ache though.

    The best one isn’t in the article though. Load the image below full screen and full brightness, and stare on one side with one eye for 30 seconds. Then quickly look at the other color.

    You’ll see a hyper-blue after staring at the orange and vice versa. The effect is strong for about 3 seconds and them fades out for another three seconds.

    I think some flowers that reflect UV to attract bees look like a slightly different and unnamed color in full sun compared to just a photo of the same flower.

  18. Colorblind people and lefties do not fail any more often in life than their normal peers. Blacks, Hispanics, gays, etc. do. They blame discrimination because otherwise they’d have to admit that their group is fucked up in some fundamental way.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    How about Jews? Are they a Grievance Group because they fail more often on average? Or do they complain about some things (e.g., shiksas taking their men, or shiksas going for the handsome athletic blond guy instead of the funny brunette guy) and discourage discussion of other things (e.g., the percentage of billionaires who are Jewish).
  19. @Kratoklastes
    Frank Costanza was easily the best character on that show - George was the next best.

    The fact that Frank overcame his cooking-related PTSD to invent the manssiere is a triumph of the human spirit.

    It's weird that the Costanza family are Italian Catholic (through Frank) - Estelle's backstory is never fleshed out, but she is stereotypically a Queens jewess ("I won't ride in a German car") so George is (matrilinearly) Jewish.

    Would a 1950s Italian Catholic - who is a member of the Knights of Columbus - marry a Jewess?

    Yeah, sure - why not.

    The Costanza actors' original family names: Stiller, Nussbaum, and Greenspan. Nothing to see here.

    That doesn't change that George, Frank and Estelle were the funniest people on the show; I just wonder what trick Larry David thought he was getting away with (he fancies himself as cerebral).

    .

    Elaine Benes - also supposedly a shiksa.

    Elaine: the Louis-Dreyfus were originally Jews from Alsace, but since Jewishness is supposedly matrilinear that wouldn't be relevant and her mother was Pennsylvania Dutch/Anglo hybrid. Plus she doesn't 'identify'.

    JONJ still wants her, though.

    Tough to argue against Kramer as the best character – Michael Richards was better at physical comedy than anyone since John Ritter – but Frank was great too.

  20. The best one isn’t in the article though. Load the image below full screen and full brightness, and stare on one side with one eye for 30 seconds. Then quickly look at the other color.

    And voilà!, you’re a Mets fan! Even Derb!

  21. @Daniel Williams
    Colorblind people and lefties do not fail any more often in life than their normal peers. Blacks, Hispanics, gays, etc. do. They blame discrimination because otherwise they’d have to admit that their group is fucked up in some fundamental way.

    How about Jews? Are they a Grievance Group because they fail more often on average? Or do they complain about some things (e.g., shiksas taking their men, or shiksas going for the handsome athletic blond guy instead of the funny brunette guy) and discourage discussion of other things (e.g., the percentage of billionaires who are Jewish).

    • Replies: @Lot
    "shiksas taking their men"

    I never really see this online or IRL. And there are plenty of Jewish women online airing grievances.

    Personally, I am existentially non-aggrieved.
    , @Mr. XYZ
    Didn't some members of the Coalition of the Fringes recently declare that Jews are a privileged group, though?
    , @Daniel Williams

    What about Jews? Are they a Grievance Group because they fail more often on average?
     
    Jews are complicated. They can tell other Jews that they’re an aggrieved group and they’ll all agree because it’s of mutual benefit; they can tell gullible whites that they’re a grievance group and the whites will buy it because muh holocaust; but they CANNOT tell blacks and Hispanics that—you know, when you stop and think about it—we’re ALL victims of the white man. Blacks especially don’t buy it.

    Same with Asians. When the Coalition needs numbers—sure, Asians qualify. But when it’s just us girls, blacks and Hispanics don’t think of Asians as part of the gang.
    , @J.Ross
    They invented it. Grievance grouping is the adaptation of Jewish mytho-history to non-Jews.
    , @reactionry
    https://www.google.com/search?q=New+Yorker+cartoon+caption+I+told+your+parents+I+would+convert&tbm=isch&source=hp&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi6hLOijLXgAh#imgrc=wWHdYJfcpU0vkM:
  22. I can’t believe you’ve fallen for the gene nonsense. Obviously evolution would kill off any of the blind mutants. Clearly it’s caused by a germ. Get someone to work on this more promising area of research so we can eliminate these freaks.

  23. A Thai princess is in the news because she is trying to run for president.

    She was married to a white guy, and has some 3/4 white 1/4 Thai grandchildren.

    I see white kids in the photo. Should quapas officially be white for census and other purposes?

    This guy has a round-up of what he calls more asian looking quapas. They still look pretty white to me except for some of the John and Kate daughters.

    1/4th Asians can still look asian. from hapas

    I didn’t know Phoebe Cates was 1/4 asian.

    • Replies: @Hail

    Should quapas officially be white for census and other purposes?
     
    My vote is No.

    A possible trajectory: An ethnogenesis, sometime in the middle 21st century -- probably already begun in earnest in the first quarter of the 21st century but perhaps not yet quite conscious of itself yet -- is the emergence of a "Hapa" ethnicity, somewhat fluid but the racial core of which would be something like equal parts EastAsian and NW-European.

    This would gracefully solve the race problem facing many of these people, that which gives rise to the Tragic Hapa, a figure bursting out of its archetype and more and more commonly seen in the West.

    An in-earnest Hapa ethnicity would also stabilize racial politics, as the Hapa ethnicity people would, with a conscious identity of their own that owes some kind of allegiance to both parent populations, be a kind of intermediate between East Asians and Whites in politics as well as genetics. The alternative is the present-day, highly undesirable setup of everyone piling onto the Coalition of the Fringes against us.

    (I'm not sure what your "census purposes" means. If it is a strict question of "should people with ~25% East Asian blood get race preferences to which 100%-White individuals are not entitled," of course they shouldn't.)

    , @AndrewR
    I lost IQ points reading that Reddit post
  24. Colorblindness is all relative, when you look at species.

    Humans and other great apes have rods that detect light level, and three types of cones that have peak sensitivity at three different frequencies of light.

    Of course light comes in a continuous spectrum, so humans use these three data points to interpolate what color you are looking at. But, it ain’t perfect. For example, if you mix yellow and blue, humans will see green, when the reality is that you are just looking at a mix of yellow and blue light. If you put the light through a prism or a spectrometer you could tell the difference between yellow+blue and true green, but your eyes can’t.

    The fact that humans have three types of cones is why you need three primary colors to mix all colors of paint, or three colors to mix on television screens to get what we perceive as a full spectrum. Newton was actually able to deduce that we had something in our eyes that was sensitive to three different frequencies, long before much of anything was known about the anatomy of the retina, just by making this observation.

    Colorblind humans are just knocked down from trichrome to bichrome. Most mammals are actually bichrome. Dogs, for example, I believe are bichrome. That is different from seeing in black and white; they still see color but they interpolate from only two frequencies. So a paint store for a dog or a colorblind person would only need yellow and blue instead of yellow, blue, and red to make a simulacrum of the whole spectrum.

    Birds on the other hand generally see in tetrachrome (interpolation based on four frequencies.) So a bird-friendly television would need four frequencies to look realistic to birds. Our televisions and paintings must look really strange to birds and not at all like real life.

    Interestingly species that have better sense of smell seem to have worse color discernment and vice versa. Dogs have a great sense of smell but see bichrome, humans have moderate sense of smell and see trichrome, birds have relatively poor sense of smell and see tetrachrome. The theory is that it depends on whether you find your food/decide what is good to eat based on appearance versus smell. One sense is sharpened and the other atrophies.

  25. @Lot
    A Thai princess is in the news because she is trying to run for president.

    She was married to a white guy, and has some 3/4 white 1/4 Thai grandchildren.

    I see white kids in the photo. Should quapas officially be white for census and other purposes?

    http://tnews.teenee.com/etc/img1/294310.jpg

    http://img2.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/l/f/lfcyi7yf1130cfi3.jpg

    This guy has a round-up of what he calls more asian looking quapas. They still look pretty white to me except for some of the John and Kate daughters.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/hapas/comments/3o72v6/14th_asians_can_still_look_asian/

    I didn't know Phoebe Cates was 1/4 asian.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/75/c6/fd75c60f6d83d8f29318b050826abe5d.jpg

    Should quapas officially be white for census and other purposes?

    My vote is No.

    A possible trajectory: An ethnogenesis, sometime in the middle 21st century — probably already begun in earnest in the first quarter of the 21st century but perhaps not yet quite conscious of itself yet — is the emergence of a “Hapa” ethnicity, somewhat fluid but the racial core of which would be something like equal parts EastAsian and NW-European.

    This would gracefully solve the race problem facing many of these people, that which gives rise to the Tragic Hapa, a figure bursting out of its archetype and more and more commonly seen in the West.

    An in-earnest Hapa ethnicity would also stabilize racial politics, as the Hapa ethnicity people would, with a conscious identity of their own that owes some kind of allegiance to both parent populations, be a kind of intermediate between East Asians and Whites in politics as well as genetics. The alternative is the present-day, highly undesirable setup of everyone piling onto the Coalition of the Fringes against us.

    (I’m not sure what your “census purposes” means. If it is a strict question of “should people with ~25% East Asian blood get race preferences to which 100%-White individuals are not entitled,” of course they shouldn’t.)

    • Replies: @Lot
    "emergence of a “Hapa” ethnicity"

    That would require hapas to marry each other at a fairly high rate. I don't think that happens. Probably under 20% I'd guess. Even full Asians also almost fully assimilate culturally with white America in places were Asians are under 20% of the population.

    I think a lot of Californians have had the experience of meeting someone they thought was white and later finding out they are 1/4 Japanese.

    The biggest wave of Japanese came around 1870-1910, and have mostly disappeared into the West Coast white stock. A smaller wave came in the 1950s, often as serviceman brides. Their millennial grandchildren are the "surprise quapas" I refer too.

    The Jon and Kate kids I think show that far NE Asians like Koreans and probably Mongolians have asian features that persist at lower percentages compared to Japanese and SE Asians.
  26. Virginia Governor Northam today tweeted that he is colorblind and didn’t know he was in black face. He thought it was a Noxzema mask.

    • LOL: Jim Don Bob
  27. @Hail

    Should quapas officially be white for census and other purposes?
     
    My vote is No.

    A possible trajectory: An ethnogenesis, sometime in the middle 21st century -- probably already begun in earnest in the first quarter of the 21st century but perhaps not yet quite conscious of itself yet -- is the emergence of a "Hapa" ethnicity, somewhat fluid but the racial core of which would be something like equal parts EastAsian and NW-European.

    This would gracefully solve the race problem facing many of these people, that which gives rise to the Tragic Hapa, a figure bursting out of its archetype and more and more commonly seen in the West.

    An in-earnest Hapa ethnicity would also stabilize racial politics, as the Hapa ethnicity people would, with a conscious identity of their own that owes some kind of allegiance to both parent populations, be a kind of intermediate between East Asians and Whites in politics as well as genetics. The alternative is the present-day, highly undesirable setup of everyone piling onto the Coalition of the Fringes against us.

    (I'm not sure what your "census purposes" means. If it is a strict question of "should people with ~25% East Asian blood get race preferences to which 100%-White individuals are not entitled," of course they shouldn't.)

    “emergence of a “Hapa” ethnicity”

    That would require hapas to marry each other at a fairly high rate. I don’t think that happens. Probably under 20% I’d guess. Even full Asians also almost fully assimilate culturally with white America in places were Asians are under 20% of the population.

    I think a lot of Californians have had the experience of meeting someone they thought was white and later finding out they are 1/4 Japanese.

    The biggest wave of Japanese came around 1870-1910, and have mostly disappeared into the West Coast white stock. A smaller wave came in the 1950s, often as serviceman brides. Their millennial grandchildren are the “surprise quapas” I refer too.

    The Jon and Kate kids I think show that far NE Asians like Koreans and probably Mongolians have asian features that persist at lower percentages compared to Japanese and SE Asians.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Christian Yellich, the National League (baseball) MVP last season, is a big California kid who is something 3/4th Balkan white and 1/4th Japanese.
    , @Anon

    I think a lot of Californians have had the experience of meeting someone they thought was white and later finding out they are 1/4 Japanese.
     
    My roommate in college: His mom was half Japanese. You never would know. I didn't know for quite a while.

    There are several female "quarter" actresses and models in Japan who are quite beautiful and pass as full Japanese.

    There are many "half" actresses and models also, but they look mixed. German pianist Alice Sara Ott, is rather comely, but is clearly mixed.

    With black admixture, it doesn't work so well, to my eye. I'm not coming up with any examples of quarter black Japanese, but half-black tennis pro Naomi Osaka is an example of a really sweet, charming girl with a great smile and a look all her own, but I just don't think she is attractive, I just gotta say it. The same with singer Thelma Aoyama, whose father is Trinidadian.
  28. This would fall under ‘disabled’, which is already a category in the intersectionality 4D pyramid chess game (hence ‘ableism’ being a thing).

  29. @Tiny Duck
    This is what white girls see everyday in public schools

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QXGL8Ipc-Y0&feature=youtu.be

    Can’t see his name without thinking about this.

  30. Anon[382] • Disclaimer says:

    Kevin Mitchell in Innate (chapter 7, “Do You See What I See?”) goes into a lot of detail about the structure and development of the visual system in the brain and eyes (and to a lesser extent on other senses). As with psychopathologies and mental illness, it turns out that the classifications for visual conditions don’t make much sense at the neurological and genetic level. We all have our own “umwelt,” based on differences in our sensory organs and brain.

    Women have two x chromosomes, where the the genes encoding for red and green are, so they have a backup in case one is mutated. In fact, women can have a “defect” that gives them a fourth primary color sensitivity, and that’s called tetrachromancy. Most men and women are trichromats. Color blind men are dichromats (as are certain monkeys).

    Tetrachromatic women see ten broad color bands when they look at a continuous spectrum and are asked to divide it up. Most men and women see seven. Red-green color blind guys see five. (Similarly, the visual systems of different individuals have different resolution and scanning frequencies: So yeah, some people do get headaches from 3D glasses and some people can really see six or seven stars in the Pleiades.)

    When English-speaking tetrachromatic women are questioned about color they can get a little tongue-tied, since the language wasn’t designed for them. You get a lot of “mustard,” “dark sage,” and “teal.”

    There are also many visual defects short of full color blindness, leading to many umwelts.

    I was interested to learn that blue is sensed and processed a little differently than red and green in the brain, resulting in some oddities. It reminded my of when I first started to study the piano as an adult and learned that your ring finger is tendoned up completely differently from other fingers: You can’t control it as well or raise it very high. I had never noticed that about my own body.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Tetrachromatic women are facinating. As I recall, most who have the genes don't actually have the phenotype. Perhaps they could, but they gradually lose the ability to see their subtly different "extra colors" because the rest of the world doesn't distinguish them at all, and their brains themselves didn't evolve to see them.
  31. @Steve Sailer
    How about Jews? Are they a Grievance Group because they fail more often on average? Or do they complain about some things (e.g., shiksas taking their men, or shiksas going for the handsome athletic blond guy instead of the funny brunette guy) and discourage discussion of other things (e.g., the percentage of billionaires who are Jewish).

    “shiksas taking their men”

    I never really see this online or IRL. And there are plenty of Jewish women online airing grievances.

    Personally, I am existentially non-aggrieved.

  32. I’m an avid boardgamer, and lately color-blind people have been very activist on the message boards about board games that aren’t “color-blind friendly.” They express outrage at publishers and game designers, and monopolize early reviews with comments no one else wants to hear. They’ve caught on very quickly that the coin of the realm in this era is identity grievance.

    • Replies: @Franb Kurly
    Luckily board games designers usually take color blindness in account and give other distuinguishing features as well. Ticket to Ride unfortunately has different symbols for colors on the board and on the cards, but the plastic train tokens are all the same. It was a game of ticket to ride that I first found out my uncle is colorblind. Awkwared game.

    But what kind of other difficulties do colorblind people have? is it a significant handicap in day to day life, does one encounter it daily or weekly or what.
    , @Anon

    I’m an avid boardgamer, and lately color-blind people have been very activist on the message boards about board games that aren’t “color-blind friendly.” They express outrage at publishers and game designers, and monopolize early reviews with comments no one else wants to hear.
     
    I'm guessing that these aggro color-blind gamers are women with penises.
    , @anonymous coward

    They’ve caught on very quickly that the coin of the realm in this era is identity grievance.
     
    As a person with colorblindness who plays lots of boardgames: no, you are wrong. It's not about identity grievance, it's about consumer discontent.

    It costs literally nothing at all for publishers to fix colorblindness issues, and yet they continue to release unfinished games with full price markup. People with colorblindness legitimately feel cheated. (It's be OK if the low production values translated to low costs, but they don't.)
  33. @Steve Sailer
    How about Jews? Are they a Grievance Group because they fail more often on average? Or do they complain about some things (e.g., shiksas taking their men, or shiksas going for the handsome athletic blond guy instead of the funny brunette guy) and discourage discussion of other things (e.g., the percentage of billionaires who are Jewish).

    Didn’t some members of the Coalition of the Fringes recently declare that Jews are a privileged group, though?

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Every single thing we have ever built will be rent asunder before that is ever permitted.

    Which is to say, won't be long now ;)
  34. @Race
    I'm an avid boardgamer, and lately color-blind people have been very activist on the message boards about board games that aren't "color-blind friendly." They express outrage at publishers and game designers, and monopolize early reviews with comments no one else wants to hear. They've caught on very quickly that the coin of the realm in this era is identity grievance.

    Luckily board games designers usually take color blindness in account and give other distuinguishing features as well. Ticket to Ride unfortunately has different symbols for colors on the board and on the cards, but the plastic train tokens are all the same. It was a game of ticket to ride that I first found out my uncle is colorblind. Awkwared game.

    But what kind of other difficulties do colorblind people have? is it a significant handicap in day to day life, does one encounter it daily or weekly or what.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna

    But what kind of other difficulties do colorblind people have?
     
    My dog keeps eating deer poop, I'd call that an issue.
  35. @Anon
    Kevin Mitchell in Innate (chapter 7, "Do You See What I See?") goes into a lot of detail about the structure and development of the visual system in the brain and eyes (and to a lesser extent on other senses). As with psychopathologies and mental illness, it turns out that the classifications for visual conditions don't make much sense at the neurological and genetic level. We all have our own "umwelt," based on differences in our sensory organs and brain.

    Women have two x chromosomes, where the the genes encoding for red and green are, so they have a backup in case one is mutated. In fact, women can have a "defect" that gives them a fourth primary color sensitivity, and that's called tetrachromancy. Most men and women are trichromats. Color blind men are dichromats (as are certain monkeys).

    Tetrachromatic women see ten broad color bands when they look at a continuous spectrum and are asked to divide it up. Most men and women see seven. Red-green color blind guys see five. (Similarly, the visual systems of different individuals have different resolution and scanning frequencies: So yeah, some people do get headaches from 3D glasses and some people can really see six or seven stars in the Pleiades.)

    When English-speaking tetrachromatic women are questioned about color they can get a little tongue-tied, since the language wasn't designed for them. You get a lot of "mustard," "dark sage," and "teal."

    There are also many visual defects short of full color blindness, leading to many umwelts.

    I was interested to learn that blue is sensed and processed a little differently than red and green in the brain, resulting in some oddities. It reminded my of when I first started to study the piano as an adult and learned that your ring finger is tendoned up completely differently from other fingers: You can't control it as well or raise it very high. I had never noticed that about my own body.

    Tetrachromatic women are facinating. As I recall, most who have the genes don’t actually have the phenotype. Perhaps they could, but they gradually lose the ability to see their subtly different “extra colors” because the rest of the world doesn’t distinguish them at all, and their brains themselves didn’t evolve to see them.

  36. I once met a guy who had fought in Vietnam. He was color blind and he told me that he was always the guy who walked ‘point’ at night because he could see better than the rest of his comrades. Color is useful if you are a primate because you can better judge the ripeness of fruit and other foods but most animals that are nocturnal and eat meat almost always see in black and white. That is my tale and I am sticking to it.

    • LOL: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Colorblind individuals might have had advantages in some aspects of military aviation, as red/green color blindness enables some improvement in recognition of patterns in night visoin and possibly in heavily foliated environments, but no one ever found out because they were disqualified early on in the process.
    , @Almost Missouri
    A woman school teacher I knew claimed that the military trains colorblind soldiers to be snipers because of their more accurate (if less colorful) vision.

    She also thought "grey" eyes meant colorblindness, which I'm skeptical about, but I've never met anyone with grey eyes.

    Anyway, there seems to be some lore about colorblindness and military service, but your better night vision story seems more plausible to me.

  37. OT, mostly: Michelle Obama makes an appearance at the Grammys wearing a kind of (monochrome) Iron Giant outfit:

    And the crowd dissolves in an orgy of religious ecstasy:

    Steve and others here say she’s got no deep interest in politics, and hence is an unlikely presidential candidate for 2020, but what if she runs as High Priestess, or just goes for it and deigns to be acclaimed as Our Most Beloved and Worthy Empress?

  38. @Reg Cæsar

    As Vox frames the controversy, “Sanders’s Democratic critics are accusing him of trying to upstage a black woman, part of what they say is a long-running blind spot on issues of race and gender.”

    So letting a couple of BLM harpies literally upstage him at one of his own campaign appearances didn’t buy him any forgiveness.

    • Replies: @Lurker

    So letting a couple of BLM harpies literally upstage him at one of his own campaign appearances didn’t buy him any forgiveness.
     
    Blood in the water.
  39. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Is colorblindness equally common among races? If not, you might have your answer.

    I'm not sure if I'm colorblind or not. I walk through some neighborhoods at night, all I see is teeth.

    Color blindness is complex … there are several forms.

    The reason it strikes males more frequently is that two of the Opsin genes for color vision are on the X chromosome, near each other.

    If one or other of those are defective in a male, he has one of three (I think) forms of color blindness and one of the two that strike men. Technically, that makes such a man a dichromat not a trichromat.

    However, women have a second X chromosome that can make up for a defect on the other chromosome, which explains why women have this condition less frequently than men. They can also be tetrachromats, which men can never be. Such women can make vastly finer color distinctions than any one else can.

    Because all old-world primates have the same color vision architecture, there can be no racial differences in the incidence of color blindness unless the defective genes have been eliminated completely from a particular racial group, but even then, “mutations” could still reintroduce it.

    If he has a defective gene that is on the autosomal chromosome that carries the third Opsin gene, the carries the third, as would a woman who has the same genetic defect. Men and women

    There are plenty of details on Wikipedia etc.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose

    However, women have a second X chromosome that can make up for a defect on the other chromosome, which explains why women have this condition less frequently than men. They can also be tetrachromats, which men can never be. Such women can make vastly finer color distinctions than any one else can.
     
    Thanks, this is fascinating. Now my experiences looking at color swatches with Mrs. Moose make sense.
  40. @Mr. XYZ
    Didn't some members of the Coalition of the Fringes recently declare that Jews are a privileged group, though?

    Every single thing we have ever built will be rent asunder before that is ever permitted.

    Which is to say, won’t be long now 😉

  41. Anon[210] • Disclaimer says:
    @Redneck farmer
    We left-handed are too busy saving the world from ignorant right people, you stupid handist!

    Here an Unz writer enumerating all the mostly negative stuff associated with sinistrality:

    http://www.unz.com/article/are-southpaws-really-sinister-increased-incidence-suggests-were-headed-for-mouse-utopia-collapse/

    Wikipedia lists some of this stuff also. Mitchell in “Innate” classifies left handedness as partly weakly genetic, but mostly due to random glitches during fetal development of the brain, the same as homosexuality.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    When I was a young child, the Gideons visited our school. The old boy stopped behind me and said,"You're writing left-handed". I said,"Yes". He then goes,"When I was your age, I started to write left-handed, then my teacher cracked me across the knuckles with a ruler, and said,"we don't write with our left hand, we use our right hand.' So I learned to write right-handed. It's probably better this way, my handwriting is terrible!"
    Also, phalanxes and their variants are really stupid troop deployments against modern weapons.
    , @anonymous coward

    Mitchell in “Innate” classifies left handedness as partly weakly genetic, but mostly due to random glitches during fetal development of the brain, the same as homosexuality.
     
    False. Or, at least, partially false. As far as I know, there's two kinds of left-handedness:

    - "Natural" left-handedness, when the right brain is dominant instead of the left brain for hereditary reasons. (And no, contrary to pop-sci bullshit, the right brain isn't "artistic", the difference between the hemispheres is more like a different perception of time and sequencing of events.)

    - "Abnormal" left-handedness, when the left brain is damaged in some way and so the right brain needs to do thinking and motion tasks it normally wouldn't.

    The two cases are very different and need to be distinguished. (Especially for pediatrics, teaching, etc.)

    P.S. Homosexuality isn't a genetic disorder at all, it's a social problem related to child sexual abuse.

  42. @Franb Kurly
    Luckily board games designers usually take color blindness in account and give other distuinguishing features as well. Ticket to Ride unfortunately has different symbols for colors on the board and on the cards, but the plastic train tokens are all the same. It was a game of ticket to ride that I first found out my uncle is colorblind. Awkwared game.

    But what kind of other difficulties do colorblind people have? is it a significant handicap in day to day life, does one encounter it daily or weekly or what.

    But what kind of other difficulties do colorblind people have?

    My dog keeps eating deer poop, I’d call that an issue.

    • Replies: @Steve in Greensboro
    I'd agree with this comment, except I don't understand it.
  43. • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Oxycotin stopped being the problem around 2012. All the deaths are from fentanyl and other synthetic opioids.
  44. @Steve Sailer
    How about Jews? Are they a Grievance Group because they fail more often on average? Or do they complain about some things (e.g., shiksas taking their men, or shiksas going for the handsome athletic blond guy instead of the funny brunette guy) and discourage discussion of other things (e.g., the percentage of billionaires who are Jewish).

    What about Jews? Are they a Grievance Group because they fail more often on average?

    Jews are complicated. They can tell other Jews that they’re an aggrieved group and they’ll all agree because it’s of mutual benefit; they can tell gullible whites that they’re a grievance group and the whites will buy it because muh holocaust; but they CANNOT tell blacks and Hispanics that—you know, when you stop and think about it—we’re ALL victims of the white man. Blacks especially don’t buy it.

    Same with Asians. When the Coalition needs numbers—sure, Asians qualify. But when it’s just us girls, blacks and Hispanics don’t think of Asians as part of the gang.

  45. @Tiny Duck
    This is what white girls see everyday in public schools

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QXGL8Ipc-Y0&feature=youtu.be

    TD, is it really appropriate for you to be posting your j/o material here?

    But yeah, for once you’re close to being right: black-on-white violence every day in America’s schools..

    PS: Rich Franklin is also a high school math teacher.

    PPS: Here’s what happened when your hero tangled with a Nazi Boy:

    • Replies: @Danindc
    Can you believe that fn moron faked getting clippped 2x then got clipped. What a dipshit.
  46. @Prof. Woland
    I once met a guy who had fought in Vietnam. He was color blind and he told me that he was always the guy who walked 'point' at night because he could see better than the rest of his comrades. Color is useful if you are a primate because you can better judge the ripeness of fruit and other foods but most animals that are nocturnal and eat meat almost always see in black and white. That is my tale and I am sticking to it.

    Colorblind individuals might have had advantages in some aspects of military aviation, as red/green color blindness enables some improvement in recognition of patterns in night visoin and possibly in heavily foliated environments, but no one ever found out because they were disqualified early on in the process.

  47. @Hail
    There is a lot of confusion on this issue, but my understanding is true "colorblindness" is very, very rare; color-deficiency, almost always on red-green, occurs at something like the rates you provide (among Whites: ~1% female, ~8% male). People with the deficiency can still distinguish all colors, including red and green, but a graph with red bars and green bars side by side will be a few notches harder to distinguish (akin to one's glasses slightly fogging up), as will Christmas card printing with green letters on red background. These are generally trivial problems.

    I believe the red-green deficiency specifically has been found to be a lot less common in hunter-gatherers.

    Yeah, In the past 5 years, several brands of glasses (expensive) were introduced which help correct partial color blindness. It must be an intense sensation to put them on for someone who gets a big boost in color awareness. Like a good version of “They Live”

  48. Now they got these groovy glasses that will let you see color

  49. @Mr McKenna
    TD, is it really appropriate for you to be posting your j/o material here?

    But yeah, for once you're close to being right: black-on-white violence every day in America's schools..

    PS: Rich Franklin is also a high school math teacher.

    PPS: Here's what happened when your hero tangled with a Nazi Boy:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJWIzPOTlXg

    Can you believe that fn moron faked getting clippped 2x then got clipped. What a dipshit.

  50. @Peripatetic Commenter
    Color blindness is complex ... there are several forms.

    The reason it strikes males more frequently is that two of the Opsin genes for color vision are on the X chromosome, near each other.

    If one or other of those are defective in a male, he has one of three (I think) forms of color blindness and one of the two that strike men. Technically, that makes such a man a dichromat not a trichromat.

    However, women have a second X chromosome that can make up for a defect on the other chromosome, which explains why women have this condition less frequently than men. They can also be tetrachromats, which men can never be. Such women can make vastly finer color distinctions than any one else can.

    Because all old-world primates have the same color vision architecture, there can be no racial differences in the incidence of color blindness unless the defective genes have been eliminated completely from a particular racial group, but even then, "mutations" could still reintroduce it.

    If he has a defective gene that is on the autosomal chromosome that carries the third Opsin gene, the carries the third, as would a woman who has the same genetic defect. Men and women

    There are plenty of details on Wikipedia etc.

    However, women have a second X chromosome that can make up for a defect on the other chromosome, which explains why women have this condition less frequently than men. They can also be tetrachromats, which men can never be. Such women can make vastly finer color distinctions than any one else can.

    Thanks, this is fascinating. Now my experiences looking at color swatches with Mrs. Moose make sense.

    • Replies: @Lot
    I'd guess the 92% of men who aren't color blind average slightly better color discernment than women due to larger eyes and larger brains.
  51. You know the answer to this, Steve.

    1. Does one side of the bifurcation have less or zero (intelligent) white children?
    2. Can a larger percentage of the population be encouraged to join this group?

    If no to both, then its value as an intra-white identity group is worthless from the perspective of the (((media))). The trouble with left-handers and colorblind is that they have too many white kids.

  52. Anon[852] • Disclaimer says:
    @Race
    I'm an avid boardgamer, and lately color-blind people have been very activist on the message boards about board games that aren't "color-blind friendly." They express outrage at publishers and game designers, and monopolize early reviews with comments no one else wants to hear. They've caught on very quickly that the coin of the realm in this era is identity grievance.

    I’m an avid boardgamer, and lately color-blind people have been very activist on the message boards about board games that aren’t “color-blind friendly.” They express outrage at publishers and game designers, and monopolize early reviews with comments no one else wants to hear.

    I’m guessing that these aggro color-blind gamers are women with penises.

  53. Making the point plus stoking the fire of regular people. We are not the enemies because you say so. Buy this and die.

  54. Why don’t the colorblind complain about it?

    Because the vast majority of colorblind people are white men. Colorblindness is mainly something that affects caucasians, and white men don’t complain as much as blacks do.

    • Agree: jim jones
  55. @Prof. Woland
    I once met a guy who had fought in Vietnam. He was color blind and he told me that he was always the guy who walked 'point' at night because he could see better than the rest of his comrades. Color is useful if you are a primate because you can better judge the ripeness of fruit and other foods but most animals that are nocturnal and eat meat almost always see in black and white. That is my tale and I am sticking to it.

    A woman school teacher I knew claimed that the military trains colorblind soldiers to be snipers because of their more accurate (if less colorful) vision.

    She also thought “grey” eyes meant colorblindness, which I’m skeptical about, but I’ve never met anyone with grey eyes.

    Anyway, there seems to be some lore about colorblindness and military service, but your better night vision story seems more plausible to me.

    • Replies: @Corn
    “Anyway, there seems to be some lore about colorblindness and military service, but your better night vision story seems more plausible to me.”

    This is sort of related to Prof Woland’s “guy who walked point in ‘Nam” story.

    I read a magazine article years ago about an American man who entered adulthood in the 1960s. US Army rejected him due to colorblindness. I forget if he was a Zionist or simply seeking adventure but he flies to Israel and joins the IDF. He claimed the IDF took him because he demonstrated that his colorblindness made it easier for him to spot camouflaged positions.
    , @OFWHAP
    My dad, who's colorblind, went to the doctor complaining that his vision was not what it used to be. When he took the vision test he still tested at 20/20. However I am not colorblind and measured at 20/15 my senior year of high school.
  56. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    However, women have a second X chromosome that can make up for a defect on the other chromosome, which explains why women have this condition less frequently than men. They can also be tetrachromats, which men can never be. Such women can make vastly finer color distinctions than any one else can.
     
    Thanks, this is fascinating. Now my experiences looking at color swatches with Mrs. Moose make sense.

    I’d guess the 92% of men who aren’t color blind average slightly better color discernment than women due to larger eyes and larger brains.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter

    I’d guess the 92% of men who aren’t color blind average slightly better color discernment than women due to larger eyes and larger brains.
     
    This seems unlikely, but:

    1. Do you have any data on a larger number of cones in male eyes than female eyes?

    2. It could, however, be tested by looking at the vision processing centers of the brain. It is known, for example, that Aboriginal Australians have larger striate cortexes than non aborigines which accounts for their greater visual acuity. (A quantitative study of Australian aboriginal and Caucasian brains)

    3. Because we live in a more enlightened age, the study will likely never be done because muh vagina, unless it is determined beforehand that women are superior to men.

  57. @Lot
    "emergence of a “Hapa” ethnicity"

    That would require hapas to marry each other at a fairly high rate. I don't think that happens. Probably under 20% I'd guess. Even full Asians also almost fully assimilate culturally with white America in places were Asians are under 20% of the population.

    I think a lot of Californians have had the experience of meeting someone they thought was white and later finding out they are 1/4 Japanese.

    The biggest wave of Japanese came around 1870-1910, and have mostly disappeared into the West Coast white stock. A smaller wave came in the 1950s, often as serviceman brides. Their millennial grandchildren are the "surprise quapas" I refer too.

    The Jon and Kate kids I think show that far NE Asians like Koreans and probably Mongolians have asian features that persist at lower percentages compared to Japanese and SE Asians.

    Christian Yellich, the National League (baseball) MVP last season, is a big California kid who is something 3/4th Balkan white and 1/4th Japanese.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Looked at his pictures. I'll go with white, using the common-sense "looks like native of Europe or its diaspora"

    He looks like a less seedy version of SNL's Pete Davidson.
    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Corey Johnson, Speaker of the NYC Council, is a quarter Korean.

    http://www.coreyjohnson.nyc/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/corey-johnson.jpg
    , @Hail
    California-born Mollie Tibbetts was a "Quapa."

    For those who've forgotten, that was the young woman famously killed by an illegal immigrant in Iowa in 2018, whose father praised nonwhite immigrants in Iowa in her eulogy and slammed her sympathizers for racism. I don't know what national-origin her partial-EastAsian ancestry was, but it was via her CA Bay Area-origin father.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlMYc7hUUAAQJGs.jpg

    What was remarkable, to me, a point I had made several times in iSteve comments since her killing, is how few people made note of Mollie Tibbetts' racial origins: She was universally called 'White,' which I would have to concede is in favor of Lot's argument above. I saw few to none even on the racialist Right point this out, and none on the Left ordinarily inclined to pump up all things Nonwhite (including partially).

    Then again, this may well be because America as of the 2010s still lacks any language to even speak about half-EastAsian/half-Whites in racial terms. The ~25% East Asian Mollie Tibbetts was thus racially categoryless and defaulted to 'White.' I do believe this could change in the decades to come.

  58. Being red/green colour blind has cost me many games of snooker, those brown and red balls look awfully similar on the green baize.

    https://metro.co.uk/2014/09/18/colourblind-liverpool-fans-left-baffled-by-reds-champions-league-clash-with-ludogorets-4873596/

    I thought after the Liverpool against Ludogorets Champions League match we might get organised, but alas no.

  59. @MikeatMikedotMike
    I have the color deficiency. It also extends to blue and purple, but I can see all colors.

    I'm also left handed. Where's my free tuition???

    TESTIFY, BROTHER!

  60. @Colin Wright
    '...We may never see ribbons for colorblindness. What color would they be, anyway?'

    'Color' would be a very hurtful term to use around the spectrum-challenged.

    If color- blindness increases, will parents blame their child’s school problems as “He’s off the spectrum”?

  61. Anon[852] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    "emergence of a “Hapa” ethnicity"

    That would require hapas to marry each other at a fairly high rate. I don't think that happens. Probably under 20% I'd guess. Even full Asians also almost fully assimilate culturally with white America in places were Asians are under 20% of the population.

    I think a lot of Californians have had the experience of meeting someone they thought was white and later finding out they are 1/4 Japanese.

    The biggest wave of Japanese came around 1870-1910, and have mostly disappeared into the West Coast white stock. A smaller wave came in the 1950s, often as serviceman brides. Their millennial grandchildren are the "surprise quapas" I refer too.

    The Jon and Kate kids I think show that far NE Asians like Koreans and probably Mongolians have asian features that persist at lower percentages compared to Japanese and SE Asians.

    I think a lot of Californians have had the experience of meeting someone they thought was white and later finding out they are 1/4 Japanese.

    My roommate in college: His mom was half Japanese. You never would know. I didn’t know for quite a while.

    There are several female “quarter” actresses and models in Japan who are quite beautiful and pass as full Japanese.

    There are many “half” actresses and models also, but they look mixed. German pianist Alice Sara Ott, is rather comely, but is clearly mixed.

    With black admixture, it doesn’t work so well, to my eye. I’m not coming up with any examples of quarter black Japanese, but half-black tennis pro Naomi Osaka is an example of a really sweet, charming girl with a great smile and a look all her own, but I just don’t think she is attractive, I just gotta say it. The same with singer Thelma Aoyama, whose father is Trinidadian.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Hapa, Pleeze! Shawties be smokin' hawt. You racisss, all.

    http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/WTA+Headshots+FReR-A3ZPblx.jpg

    http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/girls002/imgs/b/5/b59d58f3.png
  62. @Anon
    https://twitter.com/andrewkimmel/status/1094410130257436672

    Oxycotin stopped being the problem around 2012. All the deaths are from fentanyl and other synthetic opioids.

  63. @Steve Sailer
    Christian Yellich, the National League (baseball) MVP last season, is a big California kid who is something 3/4th Balkan white and 1/4th Japanese.

    Looked at his pictures. I’ll go with white, using the common-sense “looks like native of Europe or its diaspora”

    He looks like a less seedy version of SNL’s Pete Davidson.

  64. @Anon
    Here an Unz writer enumerating all the mostly negative stuff associated with sinistrality:

    http://www.unz.com/article/are-southpaws-really-sinister-increased-incidence-suggests-were-headed-for-mouse-utopia-collapse/

    Wikipedia lists some of this stuff also. Mitchell in "Innate" classifies left handedness as partly weakly genetic, but mostly due to random glitches during fetal development of the brain, the same as homosexuality.

    When I was a young child, the Gideons visited our school. The old boy stopped behind me and said,”You’re writing left-handed”. I said,”Yes”. He then goes,”When I was your age, I started to write left-handed, then my teacher cracked me across the knuckles with a ruler, and said,”we don’t write with our left hand, we use our right hand.’ So I learned to write right-handed. It’s probably better this way, my handwriting is terrible!”
    Also, phalanxes and their variants are really stupid troop deployments against modern weapons.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Ronald Reagan was a natural lefty bullied into writing righthanded. But that largely stopped by some point in the 20th Century. You'd think there would be a Lefthanders History Month that would recount all this oppression and stereotyping of the sinister, but there isn't.
    , @Inquiring Mind
    Phalanxes may have their place in riot and crowd control.

    PBS had a documentary on the Stonewall riots, that started with a vice-squad raid on a bar and escalated into a defining moment in Gay Liberation.

    They were interviewing people who were there, many years after this event, and an aging veteran/survivor/participant in what took place described the goings on in his interview. In a pronounced lisp, he expressed astonishment that "The police formed a phalanx. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, but they formed a phalanx!"

    The point of this is as that the police were on the losing side of the developing confrontation, and they regrouped into some sort of military formation, perhaps forming an infantry square behind their riot shields. Besides the stereotypical speech pattern of this now old man, I guess you had to be gay back in the day to have read enough about Classical Greek antiquity to even know what a phalanx is and why one would be astonished to see on New York City streets.

    OK, the cops didn't really form a phalanx. They had shields yes, and the formed a line or lines shoulder-to-shoulder behind a wall of riot-control shields, but they didn't have those 18-foot ash poles with sharp blades at the end. Perhaps our informant was only superficially informed on the Classical Greeks, and the formation of the police officers could be closer to what the Roman Legions adopted, forming a shield wall from which they could fight with their night sticks instead of the Roman gladius short sword?

    If the confrontation escalates to small-arms fire, you don't want to bunch up your men, rather, you want them to take cover and to maneuver under the protection of suppressive fire. If it escalates to mortars and other artillery, you also may want them spread out more. But if the confrontation is at the level of arms and fists and maybe even rocks and sticks, massed shield-wall military tactics still has a place.

    , @Clyde
    A long comment indeed! From you.
  65. @Steve Sailer
    Christian Yellich, the National League (baseball) MVP last season, is a big California kid who is something 3/4th Balkan white and 1/4th Japanese.

    Corey Johnson, Speaker of the NYC Council, is a quarter Korean.

    • Replies: @Hail
    It would be useful to know what people like this consider themselves in ethno-racial-cultural terms. There are always several things factoring in, of course.

    Some googleable info on Corey Johnson:

    - b.1982 in Massachusetts
    - "Johnson's birth father, David Johnson, was born to an American father and Korean mother in South Korea." (He was raised by another man. Does this indicate that Corey's absentee father was a biracial adoptee, illegitimate son of a U.S. soldier and some Korean woman, shipped off the the USA as a baby or thereabouts in the 1950s or early 1960s? As was standard practice at the time.)
    - Graduated from high school in Boxford, Mass. (Census 2000: 97.4% White, 1.2% Asian, 0.3% Black)
    - Captain of high school football team in Fall 1999 season, his senior year.
    - Made headlines for coming out as Gay after the football season was over in early 2000.
    - Is HIV-positive.
    - Elected to New York City Council, Nov. 2013. In office from Jan. 2014 to Present.

    Conjecture: Corey Johnson does not consider himself "White" (which, for purposes of the upthread discussion, means 25% East Asian blood cannot be so easily folded into 'White,' as Lot suggested.) He probably considers himself multi-racial or something.

    There are, ofc, definite extenuating circumstances with Corey Johnson (i.e., that he is an HIV-virus-carrying homosexual and a 2000s- and 2010s-era New Yawk City'er).

  66. “What color are Colorblind Awareness Ribbons?”

    Grey, duh!

  67. @Hail
    There is a lot of confusion on this issue, but my understanding is true "colorblindness" is very, very rare; color-deficiency, almost always on red-green, occurs at something like the rates you provide (among Whites: ~1% female, ~8% male). People with the deficiency can still distinguish all colors, including red and green, but a graph with red bars and green bars side by side will be a few notches harder to distinguish (akin to one's glasses slightly fogging up), as will Christmas card printing with green letters on red background. These are generally trivial problems.

    I believe the red-green deficiency specifically has been found to be a lot less common in hunter-gatherers.

    The real killer for a colour-blind person (apart from being barred from many UK jobs e.g. electrician, pilot, railway workers from level crossing keepers to train drivers) are maps or pie charts with many different colours. There’s a small key on the side, but mapping two different shades of red or brown from the key onto a map is damn hard – ideally I’d like to see the key colours numbered and at least one of each number on the actual map or diagram.

    Geological maps are a nightmare for this. We actually seem to have gone backward in that while modern geology maps don’t do it, here’s a 1910 map with numbered colours.

    • Replies: @Lurker

    There’s a small key on the side, but mapping two different shades of red or brown from the key onto a map is damn hard
     
    And it's damn hard if you're not colourblind. At least for me when the number of colours used creeps up to the point that very similar colours are being employed. If you spend more time checking the key and poring over the minute differences in tone than actually just processing the chart then something is not right.
  68. Charts should be made with dots, dashes, triangles, squares, etc instead of colors. As green-red colorblind, I can’t read most color line graphs, but I bet nobody else can tell the difference between blue and purple either. But everybody can tell the difference between dots and dashes.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Use both colors and dots-dashes. And put the labels on the chart next to the lines.
  69. I smell a fat ADA lawsuit.

  70. Brings back the memory when we in Tampa Bay found out Vinny Testaverde is colorblind. Everyone’s first reaction was “no wonder he throws so many interceptions” and “how could the Bucs be so stupid, again?”. Then a week long media blitz about how it made no difference. I don’t think the fans ever quite saw him the same way.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Vinny's problem was that he had a cannon of an arm and thought he could throw it in anywhere. The only coach who got him to stop was Parcells who said he'd kill Vinny if he kept throwing into double coverage. But Vinny was fun to watch.

    There were three Rams around Gronk in the SB when he caught Brady's pass at the 2 yard line to set up the only touchdown of the game, so I can be cone.
  71. @Colin Wright
    '...We may never see ribbons for colorblindness. What color would they be, anyway?'

    'Color' would be a very hurtful term to use around the spectrum-challenged.

    They are, if you will, on the spectrum.

  72. @Race
    I'm an avid boardgamer, and lately color-blind people have been very activist on the message boards about board games that aren't "color-blind friendly." They express outrage at publishers and game designers, and monopolize early reviews with comments no one else wants to hear. They've caught on very quickly that the coin of the realm in this era is identity grievance.

    They’ve caught on very quickly that the coin of the realm in this era is identity grievance.

    As a person with colorblindness who plays lots of boardgames: no, you are wrong. It’s not about identity grievance, it’s about consumer discontent.

    It costs literally nothing at all for publishers to fix colorblindness issues, and yet they continue to release unfinished games with full price markup. People with colorblindness legitimately feel cheated. (It’s be OK if the low production values translated to low costs, but they don’t.)

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Color Blindness Awareness seems like a pretty reasonable accommodation. The executive who told me to watch out for it in the 1980s was a reasonable guy. But you don't hear much about it now. For example, I don't take care much with line graphs anymore to make them both different colors and different line types, but I should. I should try to remember to do redo my Most Important Graph in the World for the 4-5% of the population that is somewhat colorblind.
    , @Race
    As much as replying to "No, you are wrong" seems pointless, I would clarify that I'm observing and uptick in the trend, and the rhetoric is that of identity grievance. Banging a drum for all of us to hear, and questioning the moral character of companies who overlook colorblindness.

    If you haven't observed it, fine. But I'm getting tired of people spamming colorblindness grievances in threads that aren't about colorblindness.
  73. @Anon
    Here an Unz writer enumerating all the mostly negative stuff associated with sinistrality:

    http://www.unz.com/article/are-southpaws-really-sinister-increased-incidence-suggests-were-headed-for-mouse-utopia-collapse/

    Wikipedia lists some of this stuff also. Mitchell in "Innate" classifies left handedness as partly weakly genetic, but mostly due to random glitches during fetal development of the brain, the same as homosexuality.

    Mitchell in “Innate” classifies left handedness as partly weakly genetic, but mostly due to random glitches during fetal development of the brain, the same as homosexuality.

    False. Or, at least, partially false. As far as I know, there’s two kinds of left-handedness:

    – “Natural” left-handedness, when the right brain is dominant instead of the left brain for hereditary reasons. (And no, contrary to pop-sci bullshit, the right brain isn’t “artistic”, the difference between the hemispheres is more like a different perception of time and sequencing of events.)

    – “Abnormal” left-handedness, when the left brain is damaged in some way and so the right brain needs to do thinking and motion tasks it normally wouldn’t.

    The two cases are very different and need to be distinguished. (Especially for pediatrics, teaching, etc.)

    P.S. Homosexuality isn’t a genetic disorder at all, it’s a social problem related to child sexual abuse.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter

    P.S. Homosexuality isn’t a genetic disorder at all, it’s a social problem related to child sexual abuse.
     
    That is a bold statement. Do you have any evidence?
    , @Linda Fox
    My understanding is that "hookers" - those that contort their wrists around to write - are the so-called unnatural ones. May have been due to some brain anomaly/accident. They write left-handed, but only by placing their hand in the same position as a natural righty.

    Those not hooking, that essentially push the pen across the page, are natural lefties.

    It actually can be an advantage - in Anatomy & Physiology, I only had to memorize one side of the body. I was able to mentally 'flip it around' in my mind. Something I'd been doing for years, to handle watching people demonstrate how to do things.
  74. @bjdubbs
    Charts should be made with dots, dashes, triangles, squares, etc instead of colors. As green-red colorblind, I can't read most color line graphs, but I bet nobody else can tell the difference between blue and purple either. But everybody can tell the difference between dots and dashes.

    Use both colors and dots-dashes. And put the labels on the chart next to the lines.

  75. @anonymous coward

    They’ve caught on very quickly that the coin of the realm in this era is identity grievance.
     
    As a person with colorblindness who plays lots of boardgames: no, you are wrong. It's not about identity grievance, it's about consumer discontent.

    It costs literally nothing at all for publishers to fix colorblindness issues, and yet they continue to release unfinished games with full price markup. People with colorblindness legitimately feel cheated. (It's be OK if the low production values translated to low costs, but they don't.)

    Color Blindness Awareness seems like a pretty reasonable accommodation. The executive who told me to watch out for it in the 1980s was a reasonable guy. But you don’t hear much about it now. For example, I don’t take care much with line graphs anymore to make them both different colors and different line types, but I should. I should try to remember to do redo my Most Important Graph in the World for the 4-5% of the population that is somewhat colorblind.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    It's also not easy being green. Kermit certainly has a beef. Future Muppet grievance group?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpiIWMWWVco
  76. @Redneck farmer
    When I was a young child, the Gideons visited our school. The old boy stopped behind me and said,"You're writing left-handed". I said,"Yes". He then goes,"When I was your age, I started to write left-handed, then my teacher cracked me across the knuckles with a ruler, and said,"we don't write with our left hand, we use our right hand.' So I learned to write right-handed. It's probably better this way, my handwriting is terrible!"
    Also, phalanxes and their variants are really stupid troop deployments against modern weapons.

    Ronald Reagan was a natural lefty bullied into writing righthanded. But that largely stopped by some point in the 20th Century. You’d think there would be a Lefthanders History Month that would recount all this oppression and stereotyping of the sinister, but there isn’t.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    My mother is the same, she writes with her right hand as enforced at school but will use cutlery left-handed.
  77. “As @ModernCortes asks: What color are Colorblind Awareness Ribbons?”

    Green if you think they deserve random acts of reparations, red if you think they should be smacked upside the head when they turn their backs.

  78. The reason why color blindness will never be a grievance group is because of the other grievance groups. Color blindness largely afflicts northern-western-central European men.

    ESPN was one of the worst offenders of color blind etiquette, especially considering they appeal to men. Their polls would break down results state by state, but use both red and green for state-colored results, and obviously, red and green look the same to a significant percentage of men.

  79. @James Speaks

    We may never see ribbons for colorblindness. What color would they be, anyway?
     
    Plaid. Polka dots. Paisley.

    Braille.

  80. @Colin Wright
    'Why Are the Colorblind Not an Identity Politics When It Comes to the Airing of Grievances?'

    That's actually kind of a good question. I'm left-handed -- and I've thought about bitching sarcastically about that -- but it really isn't a significant matter. However, being colorblind would pose problems.

    ...although you would almost necessarily be immune to charges of racism.

    Not sure about that last part. Color blind is like a duck blind.

  81. @Kratoklastes
    Frank Costanza was easily the best character on that show - George was the next best.

    The fact that Frank overcame his cooking-related PTSD to invent the manssiere is a triumph of the human spirit.

    It's weird that the Costanza family are Italian Catholic (through Frank) - Estelle's backstory is never fleshed out, but she is stereotypically a Queens jewess ("I won't ride in a German car") so George is (matrilinearly) Jewish.

    Would a 1950s Italian Catholic - who is a member of the Knights of Columbus - marry a Jewess?

    Yeah, sure - why not.

    The Costanza actors' original family names: Stiller, Nussbaum, and Greenspan. Nothing to see here.

    That doesn't change that George, Frank and Estelle were the funniest people on the show; I just wonder what trick Larry David thought he was getting away with (he fancies himself as cerebral).

    .

    Elaine Benes - also supposedly a shiksa.

    Elaine: the Louis-Dreyfus were originally Jews from Alsace, but since Jewishness is supposedly matrilinear that wouldn't be relevant and her mother was Pennsylvania Dutch/Anglo hybrid. Plus she doesn't 'identify'.

    JONJ still wants her, though.

    After my having lived for many years in Chicago, I’d say an Italian man marrying a Jewish woman and belonging to the K of C, even among the older generation, is not entirely implausible.

  82. @MikeatMikedotMike
    I have the color deficiency. It also extends to blue and purple, but I can see all colors.

    I'm also left handed. Where's my free tuition???

    … when you find out, let me know! Me Too!

  83. @Kratoklastes
    Frank Costanza was easily the best character on that show - George was the next best.

    The fact that Frank overcame his cooking-related PTSD to invent the manssiere is a triumph of the human spirit.

    It's weird that the Costanza family are Italian Catholic (through Frank) - Estelle's backstory is never fleshed out, but she is stereotypically a Queens jewess ("I won't ride in a German car") so George is (matrilinearly) Jewish.

    Would a 1950s Italian Catholic - who is a member of the Knights of Columbus - marry a Jewess?

    Yeah, sure - why not.

    The Costanza actors' original family names: Stiller, Nussbaum, and Greenspan. Nothing to see here.

    That doesn't change that George, Frank and Estelle were the funniest people on the show; I just wonder what trick Larry David thought he was getting away with (he fancies himself as cerebral).

    .

    Elaine Benes - also supposedly a shiksa.

    Elaine: the Louis-Dreyfus were originally Jews from Alsace, but since Jewishness is supposedly matrilinear that wouldn't be relevant and her mother was Pennsylvania Dutch/Anglo hybrid. Plus she doesn't 'identify'.

    JONJ still wants her, though.

    it’s well known that Seinfeld was a show based on the jewish cultural trope of the schlemiel vs the schlimazel (George Costanza==schlemiel and the schlimazel was Jerry)…Laverne and Shirley was a show designed along the same lines…

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    Jerry wasn’t “consistently unlucky”. Other characters personified certain Jewish stereotypes (George and neuroticism, for example), but Jerry didn’t.
  84. from wikipedia:
    ” In individuals with Northern European ancestry, as many as 8 percent of men and 0.4 percent of women experience congenital color deficiency”

    So, it is white males who primarily suffer from color blindness….
    asked and answered…

  85. @Almost Missouri
    A woman school teacher I knew claimed that the military trains colorblind soldiers to be snipers because of their more accurate (if less colorful) vision.

    She also thought "grey" eyes meant colorblindness, which I'm skeptical about, but I've never met anyone with grey eyes.

    Anyway, there seems to be some lore about colorblindness and military service, but your better night vision story seems more plausible to me.

    “Anyway, there seems to be some lore about colorblindness and military service, but your better night vision story seems more plausible to me.”

    This is sort of related to Prof Woland’s “guy who walked point in ‘Nam” story.

    I read a magazine article years ago about an American man who entered adulthood in the 1960s. US Army rejected him due to colorblindness. I forget if he was a Zionist or simply seeking adventure but he flies to Israel and joins the IDF. He claimed the IDF took him because he demonstrated that his colorblindness made it easier for him to spot camouflaged positions.

  86. Slightly OT (well, there’s a suppose grievance involved), Here’s a shock:

    https://nypost.com/2019/02/11/jussie-smolletts-neighbors-cast-doubt-on-his-attack-story/amp/

    • Replies: @Svigor
    That's a big ole' crack in the dam. A few days ago I saw a WSJ story that used skeptical diction, referring to everything as "alleged," and the like. That was like a hairline crack. I'm guessing the dam is going to burst, but we'll see.
  87. @Lot
    I'd guess the 92% of men who aren't color blind average slightly better color discernment than women due to larger eyes and larger brains.

    I’d guess the 92% of men who aren’t color blind average slightly better color discernment than women due to larger eyes and larger brains.

    This seems unlikely, but:

    1. Do you have any data on a larger number of cones in male eyes than female eyes?

    2. It could, however, be tested by looking at the vision processing centers of the brain. It is known, for example, that Aboriginal Australians have larger striate cortexes than non aborigines which accounts for their greater visual acuity. (A quantitative study of Australian aboriginal and Caucasian brains)

    3. Because we live in a more enlightened age, the study will likely never be done because muh vagina, unless it is determined beforehand that women are superior to men.

    • Replies: @Lot
    No, just a guess. Bigger cameras and telescopes are other things equal better. Why not with eyes?
    , @sabril
    Another issue is whether women are simply inherently more interested in color than men. As a straight man, I could learn the difference among crimson; scarlet; maroon; etc. but I don't find it very interesting. My sense is that part of the reason us guys are better at math than women is that we tend to find these sorts of abstractions more interesting than women and therefore tend to spend more time thinking about it.

    If it's true that in the ancestral environment, men disproportionately hunted and women disproportionately gathered, it seems reasonable to hypothesize that women evolved better color discernment ability, but the mechanism might mainly be greater interest in color.

    I would be interested to see tests of gay men's color discernment.
  88. @anonymous coward

    Mitchell in “Innate” classifies left handedness as partly weakly genetic, but mostly due to random glitches during fetal development of the brain, the same as homosexuality.
     
    False. Or, at least, partially false. As far as I know, there's two kinds of left-handedness:

    - "Natural" left-handedness, when the right brain is dominant instead of the left brain for hereditary reasons. (And no, contrary to pop-sci bullshit, the right brain isn't "artistic", the difference between the hemispheres is more like a different perception of time and sequencing of events.)

    - "Abnormal" left-handedness, when the left brain is damaged in some way and so the right brain needs to do thinking and motion tasks it normally wouldn't.

    The two cases are very different and need to be distinguished. (Especially for pediatrics, teaching, etc.)

    P.S. Homosexuality isn't a genetic disorder at all, it's a social problem related to child sexual abuse.

    P.S. Homosexuality isn’t a genetic disorder at all, it’s a social problem related to child sexual abuse.

    That is a bold statement. Do you have any evidence?

    • Replies: @anonymous coward

    That is a bold statement.
     
    It's certainly not. Why do you think so? This was common sense just 10 years ago, is our anti-Utopia so far advanced that this is now memoryholed?

    Do you have any evidence?
     
    You don't need "consensus", you can do the evidence yourself. Find any biography of any open homosexual. 90% or more of them were raped in childhood. Look up any stats about homosexuality and child abuse. Here's one random link: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2589129

    "...and child sex abuse by parent rises from zero to 38%."

    Not all homosexuals are child abusers, but that's certainly the vector by which it transfers from generation to generation.
  89. @Steve Sailer
    Ronald Reagan was a natural lefty bullied into writing righthanded. But that largely stopped by some point in the 20th Century. You'd think there would be a Lefthanders History Month that would recount all this oppression and stereotyping of the sinister, but there isn't.

    My mother is the same, she writes with her right hand as enforced at school but will use cutlery left-handed.

  90. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/10/democrat-ilhan-omar-uses-anti-jewish-smear-about-money-she-might-as-well-call-us-hook-nosed/

    LOL, where’s the lie tho?

    (Funniest part is all the Jews acting stereotypically Jewy (“oy,” “Please stop being anti-semitic, sincerely, the Jews,” the (((logic))) that saying Jews donate to pols in a negative context is anti-semitic, etc.).

    However, AIPAC is not a political action committee (PAC), and does not donate to, or endorse, candidates. The claim that AIPAC bribes Congress is a common antisemitic theme among extremists on both the left and the right.

    So, is he saying that claiming AIPAC bribes pols is antisemitic, whether it’s true or not? Or is he saying that if we can prove AIPAC does bribe pols, it won’t be an antisemitic theme anymore? Or is even wondering this stuff proof of antisemitism?

    And where’s the math showing that antisemitism is immoral? Because that’s definitely not apparent.

    P.S., yes AIPAC fucking donates heavily to Congress, by telling ostensibly un-associated Jews how to donate. Everyone fucking knows this.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    In my haste, I missed the antisemitic choice of slang: "Benjamins"? LOL. Well-played, hijabi.
    , @Hypnotoad666
    She's probably a raging open borders, anti-American socialist. Nevertheless, I love this Omar chick for opening the Overton Window on Israel and jewish political donations and introducing cognitive dissonance within the Democratic party.

    First, she is a POC Muslim woman and thus has more diversity Pokeman points than Jews. So that puts them in a bind right away in attacking her. This is her armor against the "anti-semite" charge that sends white politicians scurrying for cover.

    Second, the Dems are trying hard to court the growing Muslim population which already outnumbers Jews in terms of voters (but not donations, obviously). The Muslim/Arab populations are especially important in the razor-thin battleground states of Michigan and Minnesota. But something has to give -- the Dems can't be the long-term political home for both Muslims and Jews.

    Third, attacking her with the good ole "Anti-Semitism" charge merely triggers the Streisand effect and gets people talking about the jewish-donation elephant in the room. I mean, how can the Dems harp on the evils of Citizens United and the Koch Brothers and then turn around and say that the 50% of their financing from jewish donors has no effect on policy. (As an aside, I didn't realize that it is standard practice for every freshman congressperson to take a free week-long propaganda junket to Israel, paid for AIPAC. https://theintercept.com/2018/12/03/rashida-tlaib-palestine-israel-aipac-congress-trip/)


    So, Omar "You go, girl!" Ron should give her a column alongside Farrakhan.
    , @J.Ross
    This is terrible! AIPAC doesn't bribe anybody! AIPAC controls Congress with intimidation, funding opponents, blackballing, and setting the boundaries of the expressible, not with bribery!
    Steisand note: "AIPAC" is now trending as a result of this. Just think, if Democrats enforced immigration scams, they'd never have to deal with this.
  91. @Lot
    A Thai princess is in the news because she is trying to run for president.

    She was married to a white guy, and has some 3/4 white 1/4 Thai grandchildren.

    I see white kids in the photo. Should quapas officially be white for census and other purposes?

    http://tnews.teenee.com/etc/img1/294310.jpg

    http://img2.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/l/f/lfcyi7yf1130cfi3.jpg

    This guy has a round-up of what he calls more asian looking quapas. They still look pretty white to me except for some of the John and Kate daughters.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/hapas/comments/3o72v6/14th_asians_can_still_look_asian/

    I didn't know Phoebe Cates was 1/4 asian.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/75/c6/fd75c60f6d83d8f29318b050826abe5d.jpg

    I lost IQ points reading that Reddit post

    • Replies: @Lot
    Haha I didn't realize it would embed in the comment.
  92. @YetAnotherAnon
    The real killer for a colour-blind person (apart from being barred from many UK jobs e.g. electrician, pilot, railway workers from level crossing keepers to train drivers) are maps or pie charts with many different colours. There's a small key on the side, but mapping two different shades of red or brown from the key onto a map is damn hard - ideally I'd like to see the key colours numbered and at least one of each number on the actual map or diagram.

    Geological maps are a nightmare for this. We actually seem to have gone backward in that while modern geology maps don't do it, here's a 1910 map with numbered colours.

    https://www.southampton.ac.uk/~imw/jpg-Geological-Maps/8GB-Old-Map-British-Isles-m.jpg

    There’s a small key on the side, but mapping two different shades of red or brown from the key onto a map is damn hard

    And it’s damn hard if you’re not colourblind. At least for me when the number of colours used creeps up to the point that very similar colours are being employed. If you spend more time checking the key and poring over the minute differences in tone than actually just processing the chart then something is not right.

  93. “She might as well call us hook-nosed.”

    And where would be the lie, tho?

  94. @Reg Cæsar

    Here’s an interesting article by a rare woman (1%) with colorblindness about some new technology for helping the colorblind get by in a color-obsessed world.

    Among men, colorblindness is not uncommon (8%).
     
    Is that the reverse ratio of breast cancer?

    We may never see ribbons for colorblindness. What color would they be, anyway?

    Steve misses the obvious advantage of being colorblind in the Current Year: No one can accuse you of racism, as you can legitimately say “when it comes to people, I don’t see color.”

    • LOL: jim jones
  95. @Rosamond Vincy
    Slightly OT (well, there's a suppose grievance involved), Here's a shock:

    https://nypost.com/2019/02/11/jussie-smolletts-neighbors-cast-doubt-on-his-attack-story/amp/

    That’s a big ole’ crack in the dam. A few days ago I saw a WSJ story that used skeptical diction, referring to everything as “alleged,” and the like. That was like a hairline crack. I’m guessing the dam is going to burst, but we’ll see.

  96. @Harry Baldwin
    As Vox frames the controversy, "Sanders’s Democratic critics are accusing him of trying to upstage a black woman, part of what they say is a long-running blind spot on issues of race and gender."

    So letting a couple of BLM harpies literally upstage him at one of his own campaign appearances didn't buy him any forgiveness.

    So letting a couple of BLM harpies literally upstage him at one of his own campaign appearances didn’t buy him any forgiveness.

    Blood in the water.

  97. @Svigor
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/10/democrat-ilhan-omar-uses-anti-jewish-smear-about-money-she-might-as-well-call-us-hook-nosed/

    LOL, where's the lie tho?

    (Funniest part is all the Jews acting stereotypically Jewy ("oy," "Please stop being anti-semitic, sincerely, the Jews," the (((logic))) that saying Jews donate to pols in a negative context is anti-semitic, etc.).


    However, AIPAC is not a political action committee (PAC), and does not donate to, or endorse, candidates. The claim that AIPAC bribes Congress is a common antisemitic theme among extremists on both the left and the right.
     
    So, is he saying that claiming AIPAC bribes pols is antisemitic, whether it's true or not? Or is he saying that if we can prove AIPAC does bribe pols, it won't be an antisemitic theme anymore? Or is even wondering this stuff proof of antisemitism?

    And where's the math showing that antisemitism is immoral? Because that's definitely not apparent.

    P.S., yes AIPAC fucking donates heavily to Congress, by telling ostensibly un-associated Jews how to donate. Everyone fucking knows this.

    In my haste, I missed the antisemitic choice of slang: “Benjamins”? LOL. Well-played, hijabi.

  98. @Peripatetic Commenter

    I’d guess the 92% of men who aren’t color blind average slightly better color discernment than women due to larger eyes and larger brains.
     
    This seems unlikely, but:

    1. Do you have any data on a larger number of cones in male eyes than female eyes?

    2. It could, however, be tested by looking at the vision processing centers of the brain. It is known, for example, that Aboriginal Australians have larger striate cortexes than non aborigines which accounts for their greater visual acuity. (A quantitative study of Australian aboriginal and Caucasian brains)

    3. Because we live in a more enlightened age, the study will likely never be done because muh vagina, unless it is determined beforehand that women are superior to men.

    No, just a guess. Bigger cameras and telescopes are other things equal better. Why not with eyes?

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter
    Look at the article I referenced. Aboriginal Australians do not have bigger eyes, just more processing power.
  99. @AndrewR
    I lost IQ points reading that Reddit post

    Haha I didn’t realize it would embed in the comment.

  100. @Svigor
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/10/democrat-ilhan-omar-uses-anti-jewish-smear-about-money-she-might-as-well-call-us-hook-nosed/

    LOL, where's the lie tho?

    (Funniest part is all the Jews acting stereotypically Jewy ("oy," "Please stop being anti-semitic, sincerely, the Jews," the (((logic))) that saying Jews donate to pols in a negative context is anti-semitic, etc.).


    However, AIPAC is not a political action committee (PAC), and does not donate to, or endorse, candidates. The claim that AIPAC bribes Congress is a common antisemitic theme among extremists on both the left and the right.
     
    So, is he saying that claiming AIPAC bribes pols is antisemitic, whether it's true or not? Or is he saying that if we can prove AIPAC does bribe pols, it won't be an antisemitic theme anymore? Or is even wondering this stuff proof of antisemitism?

    And where's the math showing that antisemitism is immoral? Because that's definitely not apparent.

    P.S., yes AIPAC fucking donates heavily to Congress, by telling ostensibly un-associated Jews how to donate. Everyone fucking knows this.

    She’s probably a raging open borders, anti-American socialist. Nevertheless, I love this Omar chick for opening the Overton Window on Israel and jewish political donations and introducing cognitive dissonance within the Democratic party.

    First, she is a POC Muslim woman and thus has more diversity Pokeman points than Jews. So that puts them in a bind right away in attacking her. This is her armor against the “anti-semite” charge that sends white politicians scurrying for cover.

    Second, the Dems are trying hard to court the growing Muslim population which already outnumbers Jews in terms of voters (but not donations, obviously). The Muslim/Arab populations are especially important in the razor-thin battleground states of Michigan and Minnesota. But something has to give — the Dems can’t be the long-term political home for both Muslims and Jews.

    Third, attacking her with the good ole “Anti-Semitism” charge merely triggers the Streisand effect and gets people talking about the jewish-donation elephant in the room. I mean, how can the Dems harp on the evils of Citizens United and the Koch Brothers and then turn around and say that the 50% of their financing from jewish donors has no effect on policy. (As an aside, I didn’t realize that it is standard practice for every freshman congressperson to take a free week-long propaganda junket to Israel, paid for AIPAC. https://theintercept.com/2018/12/03/rashida-tlaib-palestine-israel-aipac-congress-trip/)

    So, Omar “You go, girl!” Ron should give her a column alongside Farrakhan.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    What's funny is how gratefully leftist Whites (e.g., Chelsea Clinton) take the opportunity to criticize antisemitic POCs. It's the only chance they'll ever get in their entire lives.

    ("TFW/MFW I finally get the chance" is definitely meme-worthy)


    As an aside, I didn’t realize that it is standard practice for every freshman congressperson to take a free week-long propaganda junket to Israel, paid for AIPAC.
     
    Try and imagine the sheer density of extortion operations (electronic surveillance, honey traps, etc) targeting them in the Holy Land, lol.
  101. @Lot
    No, just a guess. Bigger cameras and telescopes are other things equal better. Why not with eyes?

    Look at the article I referenced. Aboriginal Australians do not have bigger eyes, just more processing power.

  102. @Peripatetic Commenter

    P.S. Homosexuality isn’t a genetic disorder at all, it’s a social problem related to child sexual abuse.
     
    That is a bold statement. Do you have any evidence?

    That is a bold statement.

    It’s certainly not. Why do you think so? This was common sense just 10 years ago, is our anti-Utopia so far advanced that this is now memoryholed?

    Do you have any evidence?

    You don’t need “consensus”, you can do the evidence yourself. Find any biography of any open homosexual. 90% or more of them were raped in childhood. Look up any stats about homosexuality and child abuse. Here’s one random link: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2589129

    “…and child sex abuse by parent rises from zero to 38%.”

    Not all homosexuals are child abusers, but that’s certainly the vector by which it transfers from generation to generation.

  103. @Hypnotoad666
    She's probably a raging open borders, anti-American socialist. Nevertheless, I love this Omar chick for opening the Overton Window on Israel and jewish political donations and introducing cognitive dissonance within the Democratic party.

    First, she is a POC Muslim woman and thus has more diversity Pokeman points than Jews. So that puts them in a bind right away in attacking her. This is her armor against the "anti-semite" charge that sends white politicians scurrying for cover.

    Second, the Dems are trying hard to court the growing Muslim population which already outnumbers Jews in terms of voters (but not donations, obviously). The Muslim/Arab populations are especially important in the razor-thin battleground states of Michigan and Minnesota. But something has to give -- the Dems can't be the long-term political home for both Muslims and Jews.

    Third, attacking her with the good ole "Anti-Semitism" charge merely triggers the Streisand effect and gets people talking about the jewish-donation elephant in the room. I mean, how can the Dems harp on the evils of Citizens United and the Koch Brothers and then turn around and say that the 50% of their financing from jewish donors has no effect on policy. (As an aside, I didn't realize that it is standard practice for every freshman congressperson to take a free week-long propaganda junket to Israel, paid for AIPAC. https://theintercept.com/2018/12/03/rashida-tlaib-palestine-israel-aipac-congress-trip/)


    So, Omar "You go, girl!" Ron should give her a column alongside Farrakhan.

    What’s funny is how gratefully leftist Whites (e.g., Chelsea Clinton) take the opportunity to criticize antisemitic POCs. It’s the only chance they’ll ever get in their entire lives.

    (“TFW/MFW I finally get the chance” is definitely meme-worthy)

    As an aside, I didn’t realize that it is standard practice for every freshman congressperson to take a free week-long propaganda junket to Israel, paid for AIPAC.

    Try and imagine the sheer density of extortion operations (electronic surveillance, honey traps, etc) targeting them in the Holy Land, lol.

  104. It’s colour vision deficiency. Due to a mutation in 8% of chromosome X. That’s why only 0.64% of women have it.

    Colour blindness is also possible but much rarer. It means that the person has only one type of cone. That’s what we have for night vision. There can also be pbs in the brain vision treatment.

    An interesting fact is that if we have on average 2 millions shades, some people have 100M and other 100K meaning a 1k difference.

    So it would be interesting to know if IQ differences are like colour or acuity in vision or like height or weight (almosr everybody is between 3.5 and 7 feets high wich is only a *2 difference )

  105. Don’t get too excited about Rep. Omar.

    She caved/realized that taqiyya was permissible:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-11/congressional-democrats-join-gop-lawmakers-against-rep-ilhan-omar-after-anti-israel

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter
    But they have revealed who rules America, in case anyone was in doubt.
  106. @Hail
    There is a lot of confusion on this issue, but my understanding is true "colorblindness" is very, very rare; color-deficiency, almost always on red-green, occurs at something like the rates you provide (among Whites: ~1% female, ~8% male). People with the deficiency can still distinguish all colors, including red and green, but a graph with red bars and green bars side by side will be a few notches harder to distinguish (akin to one's glasses slightly fogging up), as will Christmas card printing with green letters on red background. These are generally trivial problems.

    I believe the red-green deficiency specifically has been found to be a lot less common in hunter-gatherers.

    An excellent short explanation.

    I’ve got the red-green kind, and it is astonishing how quickly people jump to the conclusion that it means seeing neither green nor red at all. And few of them like being enlightened about it either – they enjoy the sudden feeling of superiority.
    My mother’s father had it too and told an interesting story: when automobiles started going fast enough to be dangerous, and traffic lights were therefore introduced, they were, as now, red and green. Trouble was, they were not easily distinguished from one another by people like him (and he was an enthusiastic motorist from around 1900, and an original member of the Royal Automobile Club in London, so he wasn’t about to give this newfangled hobby up), and accidents were embarrassingly frequent.
    Anyway the science boffins fixed it (no doubt someone here can tell us how) and people found other ways to crash their cars.

    • Replies: @Hail

    My mother’s father had it too
     
    The common explanation has been that it "passes through the mother."

    (I am sure there are many iSteve commenters who could go on at length about the genetics of this trait, but it looks like is never passes from father-to-son-to-grandson.)
  107. @Steve Sailer
    How about Jews? Are they a Grievance Group because they fail more often on average? Or do they complain about some things (e.g., shiksas taking their men, or shiksas going for the handsome athletic blond guy instead of the funny brunette guy) and discourage discussion of other things (e.g., the percentage of billionaires who are Jewish).

    They invented it. Grievance grouping is the adaptation of Jewish mytho-history to non-Jews.

  108. @Svigor
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/10/democrat-ilhan-omar-uses-anti-jewish-smear-about-money-she-might-as-well-call-us-hook-nosed/

    LOL, where's the lie tho?

    (Funniest part is all the Jews acting stereotypically Jewy ("oy," "Please stop being anti-semitic, sincerely, the Jews," the (((logic))) that saying Jews donate to pols in a negative context is anti-semitic, etc.).


    However, AIPAC is not a political action committee (PAC), and does not donate to, or endorse, candidates. The claim that AIPAC bribes Congress is a common antisemitic theme among extremists on both the left and the right.
     
    So, is he saying that claiming AIPAC bribes pols is antisemitic, whether it's true or not? Or is he saying that if we can prove AIPAC does bribe pols, it won't be an antisemitic theme anymore? Or is even wondering this stuff proof of antisemitism?

    And where's the math showing that antisemitism is immoral? Because that's definitely not apparent.

    P.S., yes AIPAC fucking donates heavily to Congress, by telling ostensibly un-associated Jews how to donate. Everyone fucking knows this.

    This is terrible! AIPAC doesn’t bribe anybody! AIPAC controls Congress with intimidation, funding opponents, blackballing, and setting the boundaries of the expressible, not with bribery!
    Steisand note: “AIPAC” is now trending as a result of this. Just think, if Democrats enforced immigration scams, they’d never have to deal with this.

  109. @Reg Cæsar

    Here’s an interesting article by a rare woman (1%) with colorblindness about some new technology for helping the colorblind get by in a color-obsessed world.

    Among men, colorblindness is not uncommon (8%).
     
    Is that the reverse ratio of breast cancer?

    We may never see ribbons for colorblindness. What color would they be, anyway?

    They would be Facebook blue. Facebook’s lousy color scheme is supposedly a legacy of Zuck’s colorblindness.

  110. @Steve Sailer
    Christian Yellich, the National League (baseball) MVP last season, is a big California kid who is something 3/4th Balkan white and 1/4th Japanese.

    California-born Mollie Tibbetts was a “Quapa.”

    For those who’ve forgotten, that was the young woman famously killed by an illegal immigrant in Iowa in 2018, whose father praised nonwhite immigrants in Iowa in her eulogy and slammed her sympathizers for racism. I don’t know what national-origin her partial-EastAsian ancestry was, but it was via her CA Bay Area-origin father.

    What was remarkable, to me, a point I had made several times in iSteve comments since her killing, is how few people made note of Mollie Tibbetts’ racial origins: She was universally called ‘White,’ which I would have to concede is in favor of Lot’s argument above. I saw few to none even on the racialist Right point this out, and none on the Left ordinarily inclined to pump up all things Nonwhite (including partially).

    Then again, this may well be because America as of the 2010s still lacks any language to even speak about half-EastAsian/half-Whites in racial terms. The ~25% East Asian Mollie Tibbetts was thus racially categoryless and defaulted to ‘White.’ I do believe this could change in the decades to come.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Quapa is from hapa, which per Wikipedia is largely about what Margaret Cho called "Asian Adjacent" peoples (half Pacific islander). Japanese use hafu but it specifically refers to "half Japanese." I sought a less ugly term than quapa but the Japanese use "kwohta" (quarter rendered into Japanese pronunciation), which is just a mess. I hate these ugly terms.
    , @Svigor
    Pretty much every alt-right conversation I saw included at least one comment pointing out she was mixed. Given the left's racial hierarchy, her non-White ancestry was tantamount to piling an extra charge onto the killer; which makes it a bit odd that they didn't mention it when they were assuming her murderer was White (given the area's demographics), and entirely natural once he was found to be non-White. Maybe they figured their White audience would sympathize more with a White victim.
    , @Corvinus
    How about we call Mollie a member of the human race and call it a day?
  111. @Old Palo Altan
    An excellent short explanation.

    I've got the red-green kind, and it is astonishing how quickly people jump to the conclusion that it means seeing neither green nor red at all. And few of them like being enlightened about it either - they enjoy the sudden feeling of superiority.
    My mother's father had it too and told an interesting story: when automobiles started going fast enough to be dangerous, and traffic lights were therefore introduced, they were, as now, red and green. Trouble was, they were not easily distinguished from one another by people like him (and he was an enthusiastic motorist from around 1900, and an original member of the Royal Automobile Club in London, so he wasn't about to give this newfangled hobby up), and accidents were embarrassingly frequent.
    Anyway the science boffins fixed it (no doubt someone here can tell us how) and people found other ways to crash their cars.

    My mother’s father had it too

    The common explanation has been that it “passes through the mother.”

    (I am sure there are many iSteve commenters who could go on at length about the genetics of this trait, but it looks like is never passes from father-to-son-to-grandson.)

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    I know, but I too am tired of the unceasing appeals here to genetics. Let's just assume that we are all aware of the facts and don't need to explicate them at every opportunity.
    , @Cloudswrest
    The genes for the most common forms of colorblindness are recessive and reside on the X chromosome. Boys don't get an X chromosome from their father. And girls have TWO X chromosomes so they have a backup, which is why they are rarely afflicted. Female carriers can inherit the defective X chromosome from either parent.

    The exact same rules apply for hemophilia.
  112. Thirty years ago I was rejected by the Navy ROTC due to colorblindness. They would still have taken me, but under the condition that I could never become an aviator. It was non-appealable (I guess they thought people would get hold of the test and cheat on it the second time around). The only other non-appealable finding was HIV infection.

    It’s just as well. I never would have made it through that thing where they strap you into an ejection seat and drop you into a swimming pool.

  113. Per Stewie Griffin, when colorblind people control the World Bank and the New York Times I will care about their opinion.

  114. @Hail

    My mother’s father had it too
     
    The common explanation has been that it "passes through the mother."

    (I am sure there are many iSteve commenters who could go on at length about the genetics of this trait, but it looks like is never passes from father-to-son-to-grandson.)

    I know, but I too am tired of the unceasing appeals here to genetics. Let’s just assume that we are all aware of the facts and don’t need to explicate them at every opportunity.

  115. Why Are the Colorblind Not an Identity Politics Group When It Comes to the Airing of Grievances?

    Colorblindness is usually not apparent to the afflicted. And it is even more non apparent to the people around them. A colorblind person needs to take an external test to know if he is colorblind as they think what they are seeing is “normal” and like what everybody else sees.

  116. @Hail

    My mother’s father had it too
     
    The common explanation has been that it "passes through the mother."

    (I am sure there are many iSteve commenters who could go on at length about the genetics of this trait, but it looks like is never passes from father-to-son-to-grandson.)

    The genes for the most common forms of colorblindness are recessive and reside on the X chromosome. Boys don’t get an X chromosome from their father. And girls have TWO X chromosomes so they have a backup, which is why they are rarely afflicted. Female carriers can inherit the defective X chromosome from either parent.

    The exact same rules apply for hemophilia.

  117. @Hail
    California-born Mollie Tibbetts was a "Quapa."

    For those who've forgotten, that was the young woman famously killed by an illegal immigrant in Iowa in 2018, whose father praised nonwhite immigrants in Iowa in her eulogy and slammed her sympathizers for racism. I don't know what national-origin her partial-EastAsian ancestry was, but it was via her CA Bay Area-origin father.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlMYc7hUUAAQJGs.jpg

    What was remarkable, to me, a point I had made several times in iSteve comments since her killing, is how few people made note of Mollie Tibbetts' racial origins: She was universally called 'White,' which I would have to concede is in favor of Lot's argument above. I saw few to none even on the racialist Right point this out, and none on the Left ordinarily inclined to pump up all things Nonwhite (including partially).

    Then again, this may well be because America as of the 2010s still lacks any language to even speak about half-EastAsian/half-Whites in racial terms. The ~25% East Asian Mollie Tibbetts was thus racially categoryless and defaulted to 'White.' I do believe this could change in the decades to come.

    Quapa is from hapa, which per Wikipedia is largely about what Margaret Cho called “Asian Adjacent” peoples (half Pacific islander). Japanese use hafu but it specifically refers to “half Japanese.” I sought a less ugly term than quapa but the Japanese use “kwohta” (quarter rendered into Japanese pronunciation), which is just a mess. I hate these ugly terms.

  118. @Anonymous
    There are different kinds of colorblindness, some of which are primarily or exclusively found in males and other types that impact males and females equally. Red-green color blindness is mostly male, I think, and is most common.

    Men with this were excluded from flying airplanes for decades, but there is nothing inherent in red-green color blindness that makes one incapable of flying an airplane except that red and green were arbitrarily chosen for markings on aircraft instruments and for the light gun signals that today are only used in emergencies, in case of total radio or electrical failure. With modern fly by wire aircraft, total electrical failure means losing the airplane anyway, making it sort of a moot issue.

    When I went to A&P school, I was horrified to find that in most aircraft all the wires are the same color, marked with tiny numbers by a roll arking machine. When I suggested they be color code like in telecom or , well, anywhere else, the instructor said that was something mechanics opposed since a disproportionate number of A&P mechanics were red green color blind, having become mechanics instead of pilots for that very reason.

    But, unlike it is at most schools today, parking was always adequate and free, am I right?

  119. @propagandist hacker
    it's well known that Seinfeld was a show based on the jewish cultural trope of the schlemiel vs the schlimazel (George Costanza==schlemiel and the schlimazel was Jerry)...Laverne and Shirley was a show designed along the same lines...

    Jerry wasn’t “consistently unlucky”. Other characters personified certain Jewish stereotypes (George and neuroticism, for example), but Jerry didn’t.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    One of his most defining gimmicks was the constant stream of attractive, well-adjusted women he would find some trivial failt with ("close talker," "man hands," etc.) then, blowing the fault all out of proportion, he'd destroy his chance at happiness with a perfectly nice woman.

    Other times dumb luck would cause his romances (or other endeavors) to fail through no fault of his own, usually by a misunderstanding leading to the woman mistakenly, thouugh understandably, deciding he was a jerk ("Let me explain!").

    The second case fits the schlemazal archetype, the first ... not so much (as Jerry would say). And the first phenomenon does indeed have an air of Jewish neurosis....
  120. @Anon

    I think a lot of Californians have had the experience of meeting someone they thought was white and later finding out they are 1/4 Japanese.
     
    My roommate in college: His mom was half Japanese. You never would know. I didn't know for quite a while.

    There are several female "quarter" actresses and models in Japan who are quite beautiful and pass as full Japanese.

    There are many "half" actresses and models also, but they look mixed. German pianist Alice Sara Ott, is rather comely, but is clearly mixed.

    With black admixture, it doesn't work so well, to my eye. I'm not coming up with any examples of quarter black Japanese, but half-black tennis pro Naomi Osaka is an example of a really sweet, charming girl with a great smile and a look all her own, but I just don't think she is attractive, I just gotta say it. The same with singer Thelma Aoyama, whose father is Trinidadian.

    Hapa, Pleeze! Shawties be smokin’ hawt. You racisss, all.

    • Disagree: Hail
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    Dude-

    I just ate dinner!
    , @Autochthon
    Contra my point to Mister Prewitt that, after a certain point, it's all just talent at glamour renders genetics superfluous, in the other direction, there is indeed a point past which all the money in the world and the glamour it buys cannot fool a man's lying eyes.*

    Hardly any woman is a stunning beauty – but many are pretty, and many indeed are ugly....

    *Say, that's not bad if I say so myself; and I didn't even consciously write it to scan or rhyme. It's not

    Not poppy, nor mandragora,
    Nor all the drowsy syrups of the world,
    Shall ever medicine thee to that sweet sleep
    Which thou owedst yesterday.
     
    But it's a start....
  121. @Mr McKenna

    But what kind of other difficulties do colorblind people have?
     
    My dog keeps eating deer poop, I'd call that an issue.

    I’d agree with this comment, except I don’t understand it.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Dogz is notoriously (semi-)colorblind

    https://myminidoxie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/dachshund-color-vision.jpg

  122. @Dtbb
    Brings back the memory when we in Tampa Bay found out Vinny Testaverde is colorblind. Everyone's first reaction was "no wonder he throws so many interceptions" and "how could the Bucs be so stupid, again?". Then a week long media blitz about how it made no difference. I don't think the fans ever quite saw him the same way.

    Vinny’s problem was that he had a cannon of an arm and thought he could throw it in anywhere. The only coach who got him to stop was Parcells who said he’d kill Vinny if he kept throwing into double coverage. But Vinny was fun to watch.

    There were three Rams around Gronk in the SB when he caught Brady’s pass at the 2 yard line to set up the only touchdown of the game, so I can be cone.

  123. @Hail
    California-born Mollie Tibbetts was a "Quapa."

    For those who've forgotten, that was the young woman famously killed by an illegal immigrant in Iowa in 2018, whose father praised nonwhite immigrants in Iowa in her eulogy and slammed her sympathizers for racism. I don't know what national-origin her partial-EastAsian ancestry was, but it was via her CA Bay Area-origin father.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlMYc7hUUAAQJGs.jpg

    What was remarkable, to me, a point I had made several times in iSteve comments since her killing, is how few people made note of Mollie Tibbetts' racial origins: She was universally called 'White,' which I would have to concede is in favor of Lot's argument above. I saw few to none even on the racialist Right point this out, and none on the Left ordinarily inclined to pump up all things Nonwhite (including partially).

    Then again, this may well be because America as of the 2010s still lacks any language to even speak about half-EastAsian/half-Whites in racial terms. The ~25% East Asian Mollie Tibbetts was thus racially categoryless and defaulted to 'White.' I do believe this could change in the decades to come.

    Pretty much every alt-right conversation I saw included at least one comment pointing out she was mixed. Given the left’s racial hierarchy, her non-White ancestry was tantamount to piling an extra charge onto the killer; which makes it a bit odd that they didn’t mention it when they were assuming her murderer was White (given the area’s demographics), and entirely natural once he was found to be non-White. Maybe they figured their White audience would sympathize more with a White victim.

    • Replies: @Hail
    I think one reason Mollie Tibbetts' "Quapa" status was overlooked and seldom mentioned (you seem to have seen it mentioned more than I) is that she was pigeonholed right away as a White Iowa girl, some doing so for political reasons but most out of laziness, all operating under a soft censorship on racial discussion. We will recall that (1) her name is 'White,' and (2) Iowa is considered to be 100% White, and this was enough to keep her lodged in the pigeonhole.

    Some biographical digging shows that she was not really an Iowan: Mollie was born (b.May 1998) in California, to a Bay Area-origin father of partial East Asian racial ancestry and a White, Iowa mother. When the marriage didn't pan out, sometime about the mid 2000s, the mother took daughter Mollie back to Iowa. Mollie has childhood memories of California and definitely soaked up California White-liberal politics.

    Mollie Tibbetts had an active Twitter account and often tweet-praised California and how much she loved/missed it. More common were her vague, teenage-angst-type Tweet-complaints about not fitting in with the Iowa crowd. While she didn't mention the racial angle directly, there are indirect references to it / proxies for it, and it seems to me almost inevitably a subtext of her complaints. (There is much to be sympathetic with here. It is not Mollie's fault; she at least partly fits the Tragic Hapa mold.)

    Corvinus, above, mocks the idea of talking about Mollie Tibbetts' racial ancestry. It seems at least possible that her personal racial identity issues may have been a factor behind her acquaintance with the illegal immigrant from Mexico who killed her, though. (Not victim blaming; speculating about an angle we will not get in any 'MSM' coverage.)

  124. @Autochthon
    Hapa, Pleeze! Shawties be smokin' hawt. You racisss, all.

    http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/WTA+Headshots+FReR-A3ZPblx.jpg

    http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/girls002/imgs/b/5/b59d58f3.png

    Dude-

    I just ate dinner!

  125. @Redneck farmer
    When I was a young child, the Gideons visited our school. The old boy stopped behind me and said,"You're writing left-handed". I said,"Yes". He then goes,"When I was your age, I started to write left-handed, then my teacher cracked me across the knuckles with a ruler, and said,"we don't write with our left hand, we use our right hand.' So I learned to write right-handed. It's probably better this way, my handwriting is terrible!"
    Also, phalanxes and their variants are really stupid troop deployments against modern weapons.

    Phalanxes may have their place in riot and crowd control.

    PBS had a documentary on the Stonewall riots, that started with a vice-squad raid on a bar and escalated into a defining moment in Gay Liberation.

    They were interviewing people who were there, many years after this event, and an aging veteran/survivor/participant in what took place described the goings on in his interview. In a pronounced lisp, he expressed astonishment that “The police formed a phalanx. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing, but they formed a phalanx!”

    The point of this is as that the police were on the losing side of the developing confrontation, and they regrouped into some sort of military formation, perhaps forming an infantry square behind their riot shields. Besides the stereotypical speech pattern of this now old man, I guess you had to be gay back in the day to have read enough about Classical Greek antiquity to even know what a phalanx is and why one would be astonished to see on New York City streets.

    OK, the cops didn’t really form a phalanx. They had shields yes, and the formed a line or lines shoulder-to-shoulder behind a wall of riot-control shields, but they didn’t have those 18-foot ash poles with sharp blades at the end. Perhaps our informant was only superficially informed on the Classical Greeks, and the formation of the police officers could be closer to what the Roman Legions adopted, forming a shield wall from which they could fight with their night sticks instead of the Roman gladius short sword?

    If the confrontation escalates to small-arms fire, you don’t want to bunch up your men, rather, you want them to take cover and to maneuver under the protection of suppressive fire. If it escalates to mortars and other artillery, you also may want them spread out more. But if the confrontation is at the level of arms and fists and maybe even rocks and sticks, massed shield-wall military tactics still has a place.

  126. @The Wild Geese Howard
    Don't get too excited about Rep. Omar.

    She caved/realized that taqiyya was permissible:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-11/congressional-democrats-join-gop-lawmakers-against-rep-ilhan-omar-after-anti-israel

    But they have revealed who rules America, in case anyone was in doubt.

  127. @Lot
    "significantly more expensive and less sharp than monochrome accessories"

    Color laser printers are still twice as expensive and break 4 times as fast.

    You can see this in copy shops that still charge about ten times as much for color printing.

    Color laser printers are still twice as expensive and break 4 times as fast.

    I only buy and use black – white laser printers. I am on a Brother these days. Printers always are problems while MS Windows computers lots less/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The old Canon engine printers with REAL genuine PostScript were the best. Apple sold these and theirs were about the best because they had the best firmware and the desirable Canon engines. Sun sold the same printers with no serious onboard processing, at even higher prices, and you had to put a SAPRCstation on them just to act as a processor.

    No one offers that now because Adobe priced themselves out. Now any serious laser printer is a pure network printer and they have cranky faux PostScript usually.

    When NeXT was bowdlerized and neutered into MacOS it lost Display PostScript, which was the only real WYSIWYG screen to print system that ever really existed. Apple had an alternate system, QuickDraw GX, which could have worked well but which was dropped when Jobs came back on board.
  128. @Redneck farmer
    When I was a young child, the Gideons visited our school. The old boy stopped behind me and said,"You're writing left-handed". I said,"Yes". He then goes,"When I was your age, I started to write left-handed, then my teacher cracked me across the knuckles with a ruler, and said,"we don't write with our left hand, we use our right hand.' So I learned to write right-handed. It's probably better this way, my handwriting is terrible!"
    Also, phalanxes and their variants are really stupid troop deployments against modern weapons.

    A long comment indeed! From you.

  129. @Autochthon
    Hapa, Pleeze! Shawties be smokin' hawt. You racisss, all.

    http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/WTA+Headshots+FReR-A3ZPblx.jpg

    http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/girls002/imgs/b/5/b59d58f3.png

    Contra my point to Mister Prewitt that, after a certain point, it’s all just talent at glamour renders genetics superfluous, in the other direction, there is indeed a point past which all the money in the world and the glamour it buys cannot fool a man’s lying eyes.*

    Hardly any woman is a stunning beauty – but many are pretty, and many indeed are ugly….

    *Say, that’s not bad if I say so myself; and I didn’t even consciously write it to scan or rhyme. It’s not

    Not poppy, nor mandragora,
    Nor all the drowsy syrups of the world,
    Shall ever medicine thee to that sweet sleep
    Which thou owedst yesterday.

    But it’s a start….

  130. @Steve Sailer
    How about Jews? Are they a Grievance Group because they fail more often on average? Or do they complain about some things (e.g., shiksas taking their men, or shiksas going for the handsome athletic blond guy instead of the funny brunette guy) and discourage discussion of other things (e.g., the percentage of billionaires who are Jewish).
  131. @Dave Pinsen
    Jerry wasn’t “consistently unlucky”. Other characters personified certain Jewish stereotypes (George and neuroticism, for example), but Jerry didn’t.

    One of his most defining gimmicks was the constant stream of attractive, well-adjusted women he would find some trivial failt with (“close talker,” “man hands,” etc.) then, blowing the fault all out of proportion, he’d destroy his chance at happiness with a perfectly nice woman.

    Other times dumb luck would cause his romances (or other endeavors) to fail through no fault of his own, usually by a misunderstanding leading to the woman mistakenly, thouugh understandably, deciding he was a jerk (“Let me explain!”).

    The second case fits the schlemazal archetype, the first … not so much (as Jerry would say). And the first phenomenon does indeed have an air of Jewish neurosis….

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    The close-talker was Elaine’s Schindler-ish boyfriend, played by Judge Reinhold.
  132. Why aren’t introverts? They are far and away the most truly discriminated against group in America (even more than whites). But then, I just answered the question, didn’t I.

  133. @Steve Sailer
    Color Blindness Awareness seems like a pretty reasonable accommodation. The executive who told me to watch out for it in the 1980s was a reasonable guy. But you don't hear much about it now. For example, I don't take care much with line graphs anymore to make them both different colors and different line types, but I should. I should try to remember to do redo my Most Important Graph in the World for the 4-5% of the population that is somewhat colorblind.

    It’s also not easy being green. Kermit certainly has a beef. Future Muppet grievance group?

  134. @Hail
    California-born Mollie Tibbetts was a "Quapa."

    For those who've forgotten, that was the young woman famously killed by an illegal immigrant in Iowa in 2018, whose father praised nonwhite immigrants in Iowa in her eulogy and slammed her sympathizers for racism. I don't know what national-origin her partial-EastAsian ancestry was, but it was via her CA Bay Area-origin father.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlMYc7hUUAAQJGs.jpg

    What was remarkable, to me, a point I had made several times in iSteve comments since her killing, is how few people made note of Mollie Tibbetts' racial origins: She was universally called 'White,' which I would have to concede is in favor of Lot's argument above. I saw few to none even on the racialist Right point this out, and none on the Left ordinarily inclined to pump up all things Nonwhite (including partially).

    Then again, this may well be because America as of the 2010s still lacks any language to even speak about half-EastAsian/half-Whites in racial terms. The ~25% East Asian Mollie Tibbetts was thus racially categoryless and defaulted to 'White.' I do believe this could change in the decades to come.

    How about we call Mollie a member of the human race and call it a day?

  135. @anonymous coward

    They’ve caught on very quickly that the coin of the realm in this era is identity grievance.
     
    As a person with colorblindness who plays lots of boardgames: no, you are wrong. It's not about identity grievance, it's about consumer discontent.

    It costs literally nothing at all for publishers to fix colorblindness issues, and yet they continue to release unfinished games with full price markup. People with colorblindness legitimately feel cheated. (It's be OK if the low production values translated to low costs, but they don't.)

    As much as replying to “No, you are wrong” seems pointless, I would clarify that I’m observing and uptick in the trend, and the rhetoric is that of identity grievance. Banging a drum for all of us to hear, and questioning the moral character of companies who overlook colorblindness.

    If you haven’t observed it, fine. But I’m getting tired of people spamming colorblindness grievances in threads that aren’t about colorblindness.

  136. @Steve in Greensboro
    I'd agree with this comment, except I don't understand it.

    Dogz is notoriously (semi-)colorblind

  137. @Autochthon
    One of his most defining gimmicks was the constant stream of attractive, well-adjusted women he would find some trivial failt with ("close talker," "man hands," etc.) then, blowing the fault all out of proportion, he'd destroy his chance at happiness with a perfectly nice woman.

    Other times dumb luck would cause his romances (or other endeavors) to fail through no fault of his own, usually by a misunderstanding leading to the woman mistakenly, thouugh understandably, deciding he was a jerk ("Let me explain!").

    The second case fits the schlemazal archetype, the first ... not so much (as Jerry would say). And the first phenomenon does indeed have an air of Jewish neurosis....

    The close-talker was Elaine’s Schindler-ish boyfriend, played by Judge Reinhold.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Touché. I just typed the first famous foibles that came to me, bur you're right, of course. You know what I mean, though: he was paranoid one woman didn't wash her hands enough, he famously wigged out about whether Teri Hatcher's were or were not, only to find they were, and they were spectacular, etc. Sometimes it wasn't clear to what extent he was reacting to an objectively unsettling phenomenon or living in his own head, like with the woman who was good-looking in some lights but would appear unattractive in (I think it was darker) settings: I don't think any character besides him witnessed the mysterious transformation, so maybe it was just meant to be more of his pickiness. (It can be harder to convey when the film is meant to shift from objective storytelling to a character's subjective point of view than in, say, novels.)

    It's been forever since I've seen most episodes so my memory gets details mushed up. We used to have serious discussions anout the interesting aspect if the human condition the show (nevertheless hilariously) explored in my undergraduate course on comparative literature when we were shooting the breeze before or after the class formally began. Good times.
  138. @Dave Pinsen
    The close-talker was Elaine’s Schindler-ish boyfriend, played by Judge Reinhold.

    Touché. I just typed the first famous foibles that came to me, bur you’re right, of course. You know what I mean, though: he was paranoid one woman didn’t wash her hands enough, he famously wigged out about whether Teri Hatcher’s were or were not, only to find they were, and they were spectacular, etc. Sometimes it wasn’t clear to what extent he was reacting to an objectively unsettling phenomenon or living in his own head, like with the woman who was good-looking in some lights but would appear unattractive in (I think it was darker) settings: I don’t think any character besides him witnessed the mysterious transformation, so maybe it was just meant to be more of his pickiness. (It can be harder to convey when the film is meant to shift from objective storytelling to a character’s subjective point of view than in, say, novels.)

    It’s been forever since I’ve seen most episodes so my memory gets details mushed up. We used to have serious discussions anout the interesting aspect if the human condition the show (nevertheless hilariously) explored in my undergraduate course on comparative literature when we were shooting the breeze before or after the class formally began. Good times.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    I think Kramer had the same reaction to “two face”, which set up some sitcom hijinx. More generally, I think Jerry’s pickiness was just a device to keep him dating, which led to more story ideas (George’s LTR with Susan was mined for LTR material.).

    And going by Wikipedia’s opener on neuroticism, it doesn’t seem to describe him at all:


    Individuals who score high on neuroticism are more likely than average to be moody and to experience such feelings as anxiety, worry, fear, anger, frustration, envy, jealousy, guilt, depressed mood, and loneliness.
     
  139. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde

    Color laser printers are still twice as expensive and break 4 times as fast.
     
    I only buy and use black - white laser printers. I am on a Brother these days. Printers always are problems while MS Windows computers lots less/

    The old Canon engine printers with REAL genuine PostScript were the best. Apple sold these and theirs were about the best because they had the best firmware and the desirable Canon engines. Sun sold the same printers with no serious onboard processing, at even higher prices, and you had to put a SAPRCstation on them just to act as a processor.

    No one offers that now because Adobe priced themselves out. Now any serious laser printer is a pure network printer and they have cranky faux PostScript usually.

    When NeXT was bowdlerized and neutered into MacOS it lost Display PostScript, which was the only real WYSIWYG screen to print system that ever really existed. Apple had an alternate system, QuickDraw GX, which could have worked well but which was dropped when Jobs came back on board.

  140. @Autochthon
    Touché. I just typed the first famous foibles that came to me, bur you're right, of course. You know what I mean, though: he was paranoid one woman didn't wash her hands enough, he famously wigged out about whether Teri Hatcher's were or were not, only to find they were, and they were spectacular, etc. Sometimes it wasn't clear to what extent he was reacting to an objectively unsettling phenomenon or living in his own head, like with the woman who was good-looking in some lights but would appear unattractive in (I think it was darker) settings: I don't think any character besides him witnessed the mysterious transformation, so maybe it was just meant to be more of his pickiness. (It can be harder to convey when the film is meant to shift from objective storytelling to a character's subjective point of view than in, say, novels.)

    It's been forever since I've seen most episodes so my memory gets details mushed up. We used to have serious discussions anout the interesting aspect if the human condition the show (nevertheless hilariously) explored in my undergraduate course on comparative literature when we were shooting the breeze before or after the class formally began. Good times.

    I think Kramer had the same reaction to “two face”, which set up some sitcom hijinx. More generally, I think Jerry’s pickiness was just a device to keep him dating, which led to more story ideas (George’s LTR with Susan was mined for LTR material.).

    And going by Wikipedia’s opener on neuroticism, it doesn’t seem to describe him at all:

    Individuals who score high on neuroticism are more likely than average to be moody and to experience such feelings as anxiety, worry, fear, anger, frustration, envy, jealousy, guilt, depressed mood, and loneliness.

  141. @Peripatetic Commenter

    I’d guess the 92% of men who aren’t color blind average slightly better color discernment than women due to larger eyes and larger brains.
     
    This seems unlikely, but:

    1. Do you have any data on a larger number of cones in male eyes than female eyes?

    2. It could, however, be tested by looking at the vision processing centers of the brain. It is known, for example, that Aboriginal Australians have larger striate cortexes than non aborigines which accounts for their greater visual acuity. (A quantitative study of Australian aboriginal and Caucasian brains)

    3. Because we live in a more enlightened age, the study will likely never be done because muh vagina, unless it is determined beforehand that women are superior to men.

    Another issue is whether women are simply inherently more interested in color than men. As a straight man, I could learn the difference among crimson; scarlet; maroon; etc. but I don’t find it very interesting. My sense is that part of the reason us guys are better at math than women is that we tend to find these sorts of abstractions more interesting than women and therefore tend to spend more time thinking about it.

    If it’s true that in the ancestral environment, men disproportionately hunted and women disproportionately gathered, it seems reasonable to hypothesize that women evolved better color discernment ability, but the mechanism might mainly be greater interest in color.

    I would be interested to see tests of gay men’s color discernment.

    • Replies: @Peripatetic Commenter

    If it’s true that in the ancestral environment, men disproportionately hunted and women disproportionately gathered, it seems reasonable to hypothesize that women evolved better color discernment ability, but the mechanism might mainly be greater interest in color.

    I would be interested to see tests of gay men’s color discernment.
     
    I may simply be that there are enough men who are colorblind for it to be noticeable by women, although it does seem like there are racial differences as well, which is curious.

    As to teh gheys, the question, in my mind hinges on whether they simply have feminized brains or something else is going on.

    The recent upsurge in gays may consist of two components:

    1. A small number of obligate homosexuals, and

    2. A larger number of non homosexuals who have been socialized to believe it is right.

    After all, history demonstrates that some people can be convinced to do really stupid things (https://www.rbth.com/politics_and_society/2016/08/25/the-skoptsy-the-story-of-the-russian-sect-that-maimed-for-its-beliefs_624175).

    I see the obligate homosexuals as individuals who never made the transition from childhood male bonding behavior to post-puberty interest in girls, and that transition is genetic.
  142. @sabril
    Another issue is whether women are simply inherently more interested in color than men. As a straight man, I could learn the difference among crimson; scarlet; maroon; etc. but I don't find it very interesting. My sense is that part of the reason us guys are better at math than women is that we tend to find these sorts of abstractions more interesting than women and therefore tend to spend more time thinking about it.

    If it's true that in the ancestral environment, men disproportionately hunted and women disproportionately gathered, it seems reasonable to hypothesize that women evolved better color discernment ability, but the mechanism might mainly be greater interest in color.

    I would be interested to see tests of gay men's color discernment.

    If it’s true that in the ancestral environment, men disproportionately hunted and women disproportionately gathered, it seems reasonable to hypothesize that women evolved better color discernment ability, but the mechanism might mainly be greater interest in color.

    I would be interested to see tests of gay men’s color discernment.

    I may simply be that there are enough men who are colorblind for it to be noticeable by women, although it does seem like there are racial differences as well, which is curious.

    As to teh gheys, the question, in my mind hinges on whether they simply have feminized brains or something else is going on.

    The recent upsurge in gays may consist of two components:

    1. A small number of obligate homosexuals, and

    2. A larger number of non homosexuals who have been socialized to believe it is right.

    After all, history demonstrates that some people can be convinced to do really stupid things (https://www.rbth.com/politics_and_society/2016/08/25/the-skoptsy-the-story-of-the-russian-sect-that-maimed-for-its-beliefs_624175).

    I see the obligate homosexuals as individuals who never made the transition from childhood male bonding behavior to post-puberty interest in girls, and that transition is genetic.

  143. It’s colour vision deficiency. Due to a mutation in 8% of chromosome X. That’s why only 0.64% of women have it.

    Colour blindness is also possible but much rarer. It means that the person has only one type of cone. That’s what we have for night vision. There can also be pbs in the brain vision treatment.

    An interesting fact is that if we have on average 2 millions shades, some people have 100M and other 100K meaning a 1k difference.

    So it would be interesting to know if IQ differences are like colour or acuity in vision or like height or weight (almosr everybody is between 3.5 and 7 feets high wich is only a *2 difference )

  144. @Anonymous
    There are different kinds of colorblindness, some of which are primarily or exclusively found in males and other types that impact males and females equally. Red-green color blindness is mostly male, I think, and is most common.

    Men with this were excluded from flying airplanes for decades, but there is nothing inherent in red-green color blindness that makes one incapable of flying an airplane except that red and green were arbitrarily chosen for markings on aircraft instruments and for the light gun signals that today are only used in emergencies, in case of total radio or electrical failure. With modern fly by wire aircraft, total electrical failure means losing the airplane anyway, making it sort of a moot issue.

    When I went to A&P school, I was horrified to find that in most aircraft all the wires are the same color, marked with tiny numbers by a roll arking machine. When I suggested they be color code like in telecom or , well, anywhere else, the instructor said that was something mechanics opposed since a disproportionate number of A&P mechanics were red green color blind, having become mechanics instead of pilots for that very reason.

    My colorblind uncle went to the Air Force Academy and served in Vietnam as a mechanic. My dad and the rest of his brothers were exempt from the draft due to their being colorblind. If anything I’d say they were privileged by not having to serve in any kind of combat roles in Vietnam.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    My colorblind uncle went to the Air Force Academy and served in Vietnam as a mechanic.
     
    Had he graduated from the USAFA he would have been an officer and therefore not a mechanic, perhaps a maintenance officer?
  145. @Almost Missouri
    A woman school teacher I knew claimed that the military trains colorblind soldiers to be snipers because of their more accurate (if less colorful) vision.

    She also thought "grey" eyes meant colorblindness, which I'm skeptical about, but I've never met anyone with grey eyes.

    Anyway, there seems to be some lore about colorblindness and military service, but your better night vision story seems more plausible to me.

    My dad, who’s colorblind, went to the doctor complaining that his vision was not what it used to be. When he took the vision test he still tested at 20/20. However I am not colorblind and measured at 20/15 my senior year of high school.

  146. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Corey Johnson, Speaker of the NYC Council, is a quarter Korean.

    http://www.coreyjohnson.nyc/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/corey-johnson.jpg

    It would be useful to know what people like this consider themselves in ethno-racial-cultural terms. There are always several things factoring in, of course.

    Some googleable info on Corey Johnson:

    – b.1982 in Massachusetts
    – “Johnson’s birth father, David Johnson, was born to an American father and Korean mother in South Korea.” (He was raised by another man. Does this indicate that Corey’s absentee father was a biracial adoptee, illegitimate son of a U.S. soldier and some Korean woman, shipped off the the USA as a baby or thereabouts in the 1950s or early 1960s? As was standard practice at the time.)
    – Graduated from high school in Boxford, Mass. (Census 2000: 97.4% White, 1.2% Asian, 0.3% Black)
    – Captain of high school football team in Fall 1999 season, his senior year.
    – Made headlines for coming out as Gay after the football season was over in early 2000.
    – Is HIV-positive.
    – Elected to New York City Council, Nov. 2013. In office from Jan. 2014 to Present.

    Conjecture: Corey Johnson does not consider himself “White” (which, for purposes of the upthread discussion, means 25% East Asian blood cannot be so easily folded into ‘White,’ as Lot suggested.) He probably considers himself multi-racial or something.

    There are, ofc, definite extenuating circumstances with Corey Johnson (i.e., that he is an HIV-virus-carrying homosexual and a 2000s- and 2010s-era New Yawk City’er).

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    I'm somewhat acquainted with Corey, and he says he doesn't bring up his Korean ancestry because he's not really Korean in any way, and he thinks it would be cheap. Corey is surprisingly reasonable for an HIV poz councilmember from Chelsea, even if he says all the right things publicly.
  147. @Svigor
    Pretty much every alt-right conversation I saw included at least one comment pointing out she was mixed. Given the left's racial hierarchy, her non-White ancestry was tantamount to piling an extra charge onto the killer; which makes it a bit odd that they didn't mention it when they were assuming her murderer was White (given the area's demographics), and entirely natural once he was found to be non-White. Maybe they figured their White audience would sympathize more with a White victim.

    I think one reason Mollie Tibbetts’ “Quapa” status was overlooked and seldom mentioned (you seem to have seen it mentioned more than I) is that she was pigeonholed right away as a White Iowa girl, some doing so for political reasons but most out of laziness, all operating under a soft censorship on racial discussion. We will recall that (1) her name is ‘White,’ and (2) Iowa is considered to be 100% White, and this was enough to keep her lodged in the pigeonhole.

    Some biographical digging shows that she was not really an Iowan: Mollie was born (b.May 1998) in California, to a Bay Area-origin father of partial East Asian racial ancestry and a White, Iowa mother. When the marriage didn’t pan out, sometime about the mid 2000s, the mother took daughter Mollie back to Iowa. Mollie has childhood memories of California and definitely soaked up California White-liberal politics.

    Mollie Tibbetts had an active Twitter account and often tweet-praised California and how much she loved/missed it. More common were her vague, teenage-angst-type Tweet-complaints about not fitting in with the Iowa crowd. While she didn’t mention the racial angle directly, there are indirect references to it / proxies for it, and it seems to me almost inevitably a subtext of her complaints. (There is much to be sympathetic with here. It is not Mollie’s fault; she at least partly fits the Tragic Hapa mold.)

    Corvinus, above, mocks the idea of talking about Mollie Tibbetts’ racial ancestry. It seems at least possible that her personal racial identity issues may have been a factor behind her acquaintance with the illegal immigrant from Mexico who killed her, though. (Not victim blaming; speculating about an angle we will not get in any ‘MSM’ coverage.)

  148. @OFWHAP
    My colorblind uncle went to the Air Force Academy and served in Vietnam as a mechanic. My dad and the rest of his brothers were exempt from the draft due to their being colorblind. If anything I'd say they were privileged by not having to serve in any kind of combat roles in Vietnam.

    My colorblind uncle went to the Air Force Academy and served in Vietnam as a mechanic.

    Had he graduated from the USAFA he would have been an officer and therefore not a mechanic, perhaps a maintenance officer?

  149. • Replies: @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/jeligon/status/1095717294704082944
  150. I’m a lefty, and every more-ergonomic device is harder to use than the old-styles. We die younger, are more often injured in industrial accidents, are disproportionately accused of cheating (I blame the 1/2 desks), and generally have a hell of a time using knives.

    If I had a dollar from everyone who said of my movements, “That looks so clumsy”, I could have retired ten years earlier.

  151. @anonymous coward

    Mitchell in “Innate” classifies left handedness as partly weakly genetic, but mostly due to random glitches during fetal development of the brain, the same as homosexuality.
     
    False. Or, at least, partially false. As far as I know, there's two kinds of left-handedness:

    - "Natural" left-handedness, when the right brain is dominant instead of the left brain for hereditary reasons. (And no, contrary to pop-sci bullshit, the right brain isn't "artistic", the difference between the hemispheres is more like a different perception of time and sequencing of events.)

    - "Abnormal" left-handedness, when the left brain is damaged in some way and so the right brain needs to do thinking and motion tasks it normally wouldn't.

    The two cases are very different and need to be distinguished. (Especially for pediatrics, teaching, etc.)

    P.S. Homosexuality isn't a genetic disorder at all, it's a social problem related to child sexual abuse.

    My understanding is that “hookers” – those that contort their wrists around to write – are the so-called unnatural ones. May have been due to some brain anomaly/accident. They write left-handed, but only by placing their hand in the same position as a natural righty.

    Those not hooking, that essentially push the pen across the page, are natural lefties.

    It actually can be an advantage – in Anatomy & Physiology, I only had to memorize one side of the body. I was able to mentally ‘flip it around’ in my mind. Something I’d been doing for years, to handle watching people demonstrate how to do things.

  152. @Hail
    It would be useful to know what people like this consider themselves in ethno-racial-cultural terms. There are always several things factoring in, of course.

    Some googleable info on Corey Johnson:

    - b.1982 in Massachusetts
    - "Johnson's birth father, David Johnson, was born to an American father and Korean mother in South Korea." (He was raised by another man. Does this indicate that Corey's absentee father was a biracial adoptee, illegitimate son of a U.S. soldier and some Korean woman, shipped off the the USA as a baby or thereabouts in the 1950s or early 1960s? As was standard practice at the time.)
    - Graduated from high school in Boxford, Mass. (Census 2000: 97.4% White, 1.2% Asian, 0.3% Black)
    - Captain of high school football team in Fall 1999 season, his senior year.
    - Made headlines for coming out as Gay after the football season was over in early 2000.
    - Is HIV-positive.
    - Elected to New York City Council, Nov. 2013. In office from Jan. 2014 to Present.

    Conjecture: Corey Johnson does not consider himself "White" (which, for purposes of the upthread discussion, means 25% East Asian blood cannot be so easily folded into 'White,' as Lot suggested.) He probably considers himself multi-racial or something.

    There are, ofc, definite extenuating circumstances with Corey Johnson (i.e., that he is an HIV-virus-carrying homosexual and a 2000s- and 2010s-era New Yawk City'er).

    I’m somewhat acquainted with Corey, and he says he doesn’t bring up his Korean ancestry because he’s not really Korean in any way, and he thinks it would be cheap. Corey is surprisingly reasonable for an HIV poz councilmember from Chelsea, even if he says all the right things publicly.

  153. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1095533453854920704

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