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When I lived in Chicago three decades ago, the crime was bad, but, still, New York City would have 2 or 3 times more murders per year than Chicago: e.g., Chicago had 851 murders in 1990 to 2225 in NYC.

But then the Giuliani-Bloomberg years happened in New York, followed by Black Lives Matter being allowed to defeat the Chicago PD over the Laquan MacDonald bad shooting. Meanwhile, BLM, after briefly winning in late 2014 over the death of the loosies guy, was crushed.

So, by 2016, Chicago had 771 murders to only 335 in NYC, despite NYC’s vastly larger population.

But in 2020, both cities have been on the murder upswing. When the numbers are tallied by late Monday, which city will have the most killings or woundings over the Fourth of July weekend?

 
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  1. Almost all of the NYC shootings have been knucklehead vs. knucklehead things.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @prosa123

    The new, approved technical term is Joggers

  2. Hey there’s a new contender in town!

    Not Atlanta, it’s…..Omaha!

    I was just wondering about that city yesterday.

    https://fox42kptm.com/news/local/omaha-police-investigating-6-separate-shootings-during-4th-of-july-weekend

    Thankfully all have survived so far.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @wren

    Bob Gibson was one black Omahan who could hit the strike zone. And the ball, too, when at the plate.

    Replies: @Georgina Floyd, @FPD72

    , @Colin Wright
    @wren

    'Hey there’s a new contender in town!

    Not Atlanta, it’s…..Omaha!'

    They do have some blacks in Omaha, come to think of it.

    , @J1234
    @wren

    This is nothing new. A few years ago, I read that Omaha was statistically the most dangerous city in the US for young black men. I don't know if that's still true or not.

    The problem is significantly black north Omaha, which is where all of the shootings took place this weekend, according to the map. I spent some years of my youth in north Omaha when our family moved there right before I entered high school. Thankfully, I attended an all white (at that time) high school outside of the area. You could do that back then.

    When I was a small child, the problems were confined to what was called the near north side. Then they expanded - along with the black population - to about 52nd st., then 72nd st. and beyond. The worst of it is still the predominantly black near north. By contrast, my dad told me that back in the 1930's that any able bodied white man could walk through the near north side alone without much concern for their safety (it was largely black back then, too.) It was only lone white women who needed to be concerned.

    Anyway, my wife grew up in Michigan only an hour away from Detroit, but her upbringing in an all white community has left her with a great degree of naivete about black communities. So - very contrary to what you might think - the guy from Nebraska in the family is the one with all the street smarts.

  3. They just need to kill enough of each other so that Trump wins New York and Illinois. At this rate that may actually happen. Although in Illinois, of course, the people who are killed will still be voting.

    • LOL: Mike_from_SGV
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Wilkey

    Heh!

  4. New York City is really making a go of it. My mother’s apartment near Morningside Park is currently taped off by police from a shooting from early this morning. And checking the NY Post website, the tally is still going up.

    The place looks like a post-apocalyptic wasteland. The streets in that area are strewn with trash. Not to mention last week while driving through a pack of at least 30-40 dirt bikes and ATV’s came driving past on the wrong side of the road.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Resistentialist

    Sounds like your mother is living in a Mad Max movie.

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Resistentialist

    This is the happy ending Bill de Blasio signed up for.

    , @BenKenobi
    @Resistentialist

    You’ve got it slightly wrong — it’s a pre-apocalyptic wasteland.

    , @Anonymous
    @Resistentialist


    My mother’s apartment near Morningside Park is currently taped off by police from a shooting from early this morning.
     
    Is that an area in which one would have expected shootings pre-May 2020?
    , @Ed
    @Resistentialist

    NYC is staring at some dark days ahead

  5. Anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:

    New York City is so gentrified now that it is unlikely to see any significant or sustained increase in crime. And the Jews wouldn’t stand for a large increase anyways.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    May I introduce you to the year 2020

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Abandoned more accurately. Anyone who could afford to leave is in jersey or long island.

    , @RudyM
    @Anonymous

    But are Jews still in control of their golem?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @kaganovitch
    @Anonymous

    New York City is so gentrified now that it is unlikely to see any significant or sustained increase in crime. And the Jews wouldn’t stand for a large increase anyways.

    It's unfortunate that the Jews only came into being in 1992. Had they existed earlier, we could have avoided the unpleasantness of the high crime era in NYC in the seventies and eighties.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  6. There is an easy solution for reversing the upswing in murders: just call them COVID-19 deaths.

    Chicago and New York could both do this, but which one has the edge for creative counting? The Windy City has a strong track record with votes, but the Big Apple probably has done more of it lately with deaths.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Beat me to it, Buzz. I think NYC should have a big clock, right under the big national debt clock there in Times Square, or wherever it is, with the numbers ticking off for COVID-one-niner vs. murders in New York. (Chicago can get its own damn clock.)

    People could root for one or the other, and there could be off-hospital betting. Even more importantly, some of our experts in Washington, FS, that tell us what to do, can use the data to decide each morning if we should have LOCKDOWN days or RIOT days. "Go Morningside Park! She's a mudder. Her muddah was a mudder."

    Replies: @Dr. Krieger, @Nicholas Stix

    , @Cortes
    @Buzz Mohawk

    HeyJackass.com has a handy little table comparing case fatality rates for Covid19 against those for high velocity lead. It’s called the Corona-O-Meter.

  7. I’m more interested in the kill percentage. Chicago has been pretty weak, usually struggling to get into the mid teens . Those teens/yoofs/children need to up their game – try to give hardworking taxpayers a break.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
  8. @Wilkey
    They just need to kill enough of each other so that Trump wins New York and Illinois. At this rate that may actually happen. Although in Illinois, of course, the people who are killed will still be voting.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Heh!

  9. @Resistentialist
    New York City is really making a go of it. My mother’s apartment near Morningside Park is currently taped off by police from a shooting from early this morning. And checking the NY Post website, the tally is still going up.

    The place looks like a post-apocalyptic wasteland. The streets in that area are strewn with trash. Not to mention last week while driving through a pack of at least 30-40 dirt bikes and ATV’s came driving past on the wrong side of the road.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Nicholas Stix, @BenKenobi, @Anonymous, @Ed

    Sounds like your mother is living in a Mad Max movie.

  10. @Buzz Mohawk
    There is an easy solution for reversing the upswing in murders: just call them COVID-19 deaths.

    Chicago and New York could both do this, but which one has the edge for creative counting? The Windy City has a strong track record with votes, but the Big Apple probably has done more of it lately with deaths.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Cortes

    Beat me to it, Buzz. I think NYC should have a big clock, right under the big national debt clock there in Times Square, or wherever it is, with the numbers ticking off for COVID-one-niner vs. murders in New York. (Chicago can get its own damn clock.)

    People could root for one or the other, and there could be off-hospital betting. Even more importantly, some of our experts in Washington, FS, that tell us what to do, can use the data to decide each morning if we should have LOCKDOWN days or RIOT days. “Go Morningside Park! She’s a mudder. Her muddah was a mudder.”

    • Replies: @Dr. Krieger
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Nice Seinfeld reference.

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "off-hospital betting."

    Nice. OHB parlors?

    "Washington, FS"?

  11. NYC will have a ways to go to catch up. Significant parts of the city have been gentrified since Giuliani. Chicago still has a bunch of heavily-black ghettos, especially on its west side.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Thomas


    NYC will have a ways to go to catch up. Significant parts of the city have been gentrified since Giuliani. Chicago still has a bunch of heavily-black ghettos, especially on its west side.
     
    Chicago blacks have always been tougher
    It is colder there
    Nation of Islam is there

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

  12. St Louis is number one on a per capita basis
    Then Baltimore
    Detroit
    New Orleans
    Baton Rouge

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/deadliest-u-s-cities

  13. You can listen to the best Chicago PD action online. Friday and Saturday nights are crazy but entertaining.

    Chicago Police Zone 8 – Districts 4 and 6

    https://m.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/27158

  14. Abandoning the “racist” Giuliani-Bloomberg policies multiplies the murder rates. But somehow, lying media manages covers up such life saving policy effects.
    Instead, media lies manage to convince voters, politicians, supreme court justices, and BLM activists, that de-policing Black neighborhood is good for Blacks.
    #BlackLivesMatter2Racists https://4racism.org/BlackLivesMatter2Racists.html

  15. For some on going mayhem check out this guys twitter feed. He has videos from Portland, Oregon where antifa has been rioting every night for a month, trying to burn down police stations. The county courthouse is all boarded up. US military were sent to protect the downtown Federal courthouse.\
    Graffiti everywhere. Hundreds of antifa goons in the street that the police cannot handle. Setting fires. Putting up barricades.

  16. @Resistentialist
    New York City is really making a go of it. My mother’s apartment near Morningside Park is currently taped off by police from a shooting from early this morning. And checking the NY Post website, the tally is still going up.

    The place looks like a post-apocalyptic wasteland. The streets in that area are strewn with trash. Not to mention last week while driving through a pack of at least 30-40 dirt bikes and ATV’s came driving past on the wrong side of the road.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Nicholas Stix, @BenKenobi, @Anonymous, @Ed

    This is the happy ending Bill de Blasio signed up for.

  17. @Thomas
    NYC will have a ways to go to catch up. Significant parts of the city have been gentrified since Giuliani. Chicago still has a bunch of heavily-black ghettos, especially on its west side.

    Replies: @Clyde

    NYC will have a ways to go to catch up. Significant parts of the city have been gentrified since Giuliani. Chicago still has a bunch of heavily-black ghettos, especially on its west side.

    Chicago blacks have always been tougher
    It is colder there
    Nation of Islam is there

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    @Clyde

    They're mostly from Mississippi in Chicago, while NYC has a lot of WestIndians. Thomas Sowell once pointed out that West Indians had higher average income than whites.

  18. A lot of liberals in thought they could get away voting for Bill de Blasio. A lot more didn’t bother voting. Oops. They really did bring it on themselves.

  19. How about average age of murdered?

    I think Chicago wins there, although they just killed an 8-year-old in Atlanta.

  20. What matters is how many Whites killed Blacks.

    Nobody, including liberals, thinks Black people can be held to the same moral standards as Whites.

    • Agree: bruce county
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor


    Nobody, including liberals, thinks Black people can be held to the same moral standards as Whites.
     
    Well, they can't. That's why God made oceans.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

  21. I did my patriotic duty yesterday and walked a fair bit of the length of Manhattan from The Battery to the East 90’s. Overall things are shockingly in good shape.

    For some reason, the anti-capitalist revolution has not touched the Goldman Sachs headquarters and the expensive so-called art collection in its lobby. Wall Street is mysteriously untouched by this alleged anti-capitalist revolution. Really makes you think. In fact, lower Manhattan overall is largely unaffected. Life is good, if really quiet.

    The ONE place in New York that looks like Escape From New York is directly adjacent to City Hall. The so-called autonomous zone in New York is literally a large stretch of sidewalk adjacent to City Hall. City Hall Park itself is locked down by the NYPD. The pathetic pseudo-revolutionaries only control a small stretch of sidewalk.

    The only buildings in Lower Manhattan that are covered by ACAB, F12 and KILL PIGS graffiti are CITY BUILDINGS, the Surrogate Court and the old Tweed Courthouse which is now the Department of Education. I REPEAT, the only buildings in Manhattan that are covered in KILL COPS graffiti are controlled by THE MAYOR. The rest of the City is largely clean of anti-cop graffiti. Again, it really, really makes you THINK.

    THIS SHIT IS STAGED.

    New York City DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THIS. ONLY TWO BUILDINGS CONTROLLED BY DE BLASIO DO.

    When I visited, there were at least three television news networks filming in front of the Surrogate Court. The news coverage implies that the entire City looks like the shit show that is the Surrogate Court, but this is manifestly NOT THE CASE. The Surrogate Court Building (which is beautiful and I love) is just a fake backdrop for the the FAKE REVOLUTION.

    Both the Surrogate Court and the Old Tweed Courthouse are two of the most beautiful buildings in North America. The interior of the Surrogate Court is particularly exquisite and I put it on par with the Paris Opera House. The original Paris Opera House, not the abomination they constructed in The Bastille.

    Walking the length of Manhattan, I passed through four different BLM protests. All of which were rather small. The anarchist crowd in New York is not as pathetic as they are in other cities. There is definitely an elite faction to New York antifa. I have attended anarchist events in New York and met journalists from Vogue, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, New York Times and NPR. Our elite media are anarchists who seek the destruction of our society. Antifa is definitely in the newsroom.

    I talked to four different NYPD officers during my walk. They were all outraged with the public. I talked to one black officer of Jamaican heritage who was one of the largest men that I have ever met (in terms of muscle) and he broke out racial crime statistics within 15 seconds. He had no love for George Floyd and made me feel like a liberal.

    I have noted the cult like aspects of the protest movement previously, but I want to point out that there is definitely an ANTIFA CULT in New York that eerily tracks that of Charles Manson cult. Attractive women who follow of a very strange dude. Mark it down. I have seen it. There is an antifa cult in New York. Not just “cult like”, but a straight up Manson style cult.

    Soho was not as bad as I expected. Prada somehow avoided looting while on the very same block Dolce Gabbana was completely destroyed. Fjallraven and Uniqlo, probably the only stores I like in Soho, were up and running. There might be a message in that.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Clifford Brown

    Tuesday is Ringo's Sir Richard's 80th birthday. Where did the time go?

    , @Anonymous
    @Clifford Brown


    I talked to one black officer of Jamaican heritage who was one of the largest men that I have ever met (in terms of muscle) and he broke out racial crime statistics within 15 seconds.
     
    What racial crime statistics did he cite?

    Fjallraven and Uniqlo, probably the only stores I like in Soho, were up and running. There might be a message in that.
     
    What might that message be?
    , @Redneck farmer
    @Clifford Brown

    So, the media's in on it? Color me unsurprised.

    , @Technite78
    @Clifford Brown

    Sorry, but false.

    My building in NoHo was entirely encased in plywood, which was quickly covered in graffiti. For two weeks straight, protesters walked through the neighborhood from City Hall to Washington Square and Union Square Parks... from mid afternoon through the early morning hours, shouting their slogans into megaphones.

    As of three weeks ago, there were a lot of boarded up storefronts throughout SoHo and Noho. Now? I don't know. I've bugged out to temporary digs while looking at real estate outside the purview of de Blasio and Cuomo.

    Prediction: the tax base of NYC is going to crater within a year.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Jim Don Bob

    , @Obee
    @Clifford Brown

    You missed Fordham Road. Definitely not staged up in the Bronx.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Clifford Brown

    "the anti-capitalist revolution has not touched the Goldman Sachs headquarters"

    At this point, Goldman Sachs security is probably more effective than the broken NYPD. There is also the long history of financier-funded revolutions: moneymen do revolutions; revolutions are not done to them.

    "THIS SHIT IS STAGED"

    All the BLM stuff is false-flag. Blacks are very cavalier in regard to the health and well-being of their own people while being incredibly narcissistic individually. And it is beyond doubt that white progressives view blacks as prisms through which their virtues will be illuminated. An asteroid can solve the problems that plague us though the various manufactured plague bio-weapons will probably survive the environmental catastrophe the asteroid will inflict.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    , @Anonymous
    @Clifford Brown



    Fjallraven and Uniqlo, probably the only stores I like in Soho, were up and running. There might be a message in that.

     

    When you say, "up and running," do you mean they were looted, but sustained only minor damage? Or that they were entirely unscathed?

    Fjallraven is not familiar to me. However, if Uniqlo is the same "no visible logo" clothier I have in mind, I would think the fact that looters are attracted to flash gear would have helped to make them a relatively (if not altogether) unattractive target for looters.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown

  22. @wren
    Hey there's a new contender in town!

    Not Atlanta, it's.....Omaha!

    I was just wondering about that city yesterday.

    https://fox42kptm.com/news/local/omaha-police-investigating-6-separate-shootings-during-4th-of-july-weekend

    Thankfully all have survived so far.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright, @J1234

    Bob Gibson was one black Omahan who could hit the strike zone. And the ball, too, when at the plate.

    • Replies: @Georgina Floyd
    @Reg Cæsar

    Bob was kind of wild actually, but he got lots of batters to chase the high fastball. As a mid Michigan boy, I was thrilled to see him lose the final World Series game to the Tigers.

    Replies: @Wake up

    , @FPD72
    @Reg Cæsar

    Gibson’s 1968 season (The Year of the Pitcher) was incredible. He finished the season with a 1.12 ERA, won 22 games (while losing two 1-0 complete games), and won two World Series games.

    I got to see him pitch against the Dodgers that season. He came into the game with 47 consecutive scoreless innings, threatening to break the record that Don Drysdale had set earlier that season. The Dodgers managed to scratch out a run in the first inning, preserving Drysdale’s record, and then scored nada the rest of the game.

    He had played basketball for hometown Creighton, where he averaged 22 points per game his junior year. After college he played one year with the Harlem Globetrotters before devoting himself solely to baseball.

    Replies: @usNthem

  23. @Clifford Brown
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-rB0pHI9fU

    I did my patriotic duty yesterday and walked a fair bit of the length of Manhattan from The Battery to the East 90's. Overall things are shockingly in good shape.

    For some reason, the anti-capitalist revolution has not touched the Goldman Sachs headquarters and the expensive so-called art collection in its lobby. Wall Street is mysteriously untouched by this alleged anti-capitalist revolution. Really makes you think. In fact, lower Manhattan overall is largely unaffected. Life is good, if really quiet.

    The ONE place in New York that looks like Escape From New York is directly adjacent to City Hall. The so-called autonomous zone in New York is literally a large stretch of sidewalk adjacent to City Hall. City Hall Park itself is locked down by the NYPD. The pathetic pseudo-revolutionaries only control a small stretch of sidewalk.

    The only buildings in Lower Manhattan that are covered by ACAB, F12 and KILL PIGS graffiti are CITY BUILDINGS, the Surrogate Court and the old Tweed Courthouse which is now the Department of Education. I REPEAT, the only buildings in Manhattan that are covered in KILL COPS graffiti are controlled by THE MAYOR. The rest of the City is largely clean of anti-cop graffiti. Again, it really, really makes you THINK.

    THIS SHIT IS STAGED.

    https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/10698985g/a9f4bcab/occupy-city-hall-protest-in-new-york-calling-on-police-budget-cuts-usa-shutterstock-editorial-10698985g.jpg

    New York City DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THIS. ONLY TWO BUILDINGS CONTROLLED BY DE BLASIO DO.

    When I visited, there were at least three television news networks filming in front of the Surrogate Court. The news coverage implies that the entire City looks like the shit show that is the Surrogate Court, but this is manifestly NOT THE CASE. The Surrogate Court Building (which is beautiful and I love) is just a fake backdrop for the the FAKE REVOLUTION.

    Both the Surrogate Court and the Old Tweed Courthouse are two of the most beautiful buildings in North America. The interior of the Surrogate Court is particularly exquisite and I put it on par with the Paris Opera House. The original Paris Opera House, not the abomination they constructed in The Bastille.

    Walking the length of Manhattan, I passed through four different BLM protests. All of which were rather small. The anarchist crowd in New York is not as pathetic as they are in other cities. There is definitely an elite faction to New York antifa. I have attended anarchist events in New York and met journalists from Vogue, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, New York Times and NPR. Our elite media are anarchists who seek the destruction of our society. Antifa is definitely in the newsroom.

    I talked to four different NYPD officers during my walk. They were all outraged with the public. I talked to one black officer of Jamaican heritage who was one of the largest men that I have ever met (in terms of muscle) and he broke out racial crime statistics within 15 seconds. He had no love for George Floyd and made me feel like a liberal.

    I have noted the cult like aspects of the protest movement previously, but I want to point out that there is definitely an ANTIFA CULT in New York that eerily tracks that of Charles Manson cult. Attractive women who follow of a very strange dude. Mark it down. I have seen it. There is an antifa cult in New York. Not just "cult like", but a straight up Manson style cult.

    Soho was not as bad as I expected. Prada somehow avoided looting while on the very same block Dolce Gabbana was completely destroyed. Fjallraven and Uniqlo, probably the only stores I like in Soho, were up and running. There might be a message in that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rblYSKz_VnI

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Redneck farmer, @Technite78, @Obee, @SunBakedSuburb, @Anonymous

    Tuesday is Ringo’s Sir Richard’s 80th birthday. Where did the time go?

  24. Anonymous[146] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    New York City is so gentrified now that it is unlikely to see any significant or sustained increase in crime. And the Jews wouldn’t stand for a large increase anyways.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @RudyM, @kaganovitch

    May I introduce you to the year 2020

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous



    New York City is so gentrified now that it is unlikely to see any significant or sustained increase in crime. And the Jews wouldn’t stand for a large increase anyways.
     
    May I introduce you to the year 2020
     
    Sure. There isn’t really a critical mass of blacks left in New York City. See Clifford Brown’s comment in this thread.
    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous



    New York City is so gentrified now that it is unlikely to see any significant or sustained increase in crime. And the Jews wouldn’t stand for a large increase anyways.
     
    May I introduce you to the year 2020
     
    Sure. There isn’t really a critical mass of blacks left in New York City. See Clifford Brown’s comment in this thread.
  25. This shouldn’t be happening. The Really Smart people told us if we joined the 20th century and forced desegregation, we would find ourselves in a better world.

    Liberals like LBJ and Republicans like Nixon all agreed.

    Golly, what happened? Odd, because the same crowd said South Africa should embrace progress and they seem to be having problems too. Oh well, I’m just glad those mean old Working class White people weren’t listened to.

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @RichardTaylor


    This shouldn’t be happening. The Really Smart people told us if we joined the 20th century and forced desegregation, we would find ourselves in a better world.
     
    We were also told that the most important thing in the world was freedom of speech, and that being highly critical of America proved how much you loved it and was absolutely not at all anti-American but ackually highly patriotic.

    We were also told that, despite the 2/5/10/18/26-trillion-dollar national debt, America is a very rich country and can totally afford whatever social program or overseas fiasco was dreamed up.

    We were also told that increasing per pupil spending would directly correlate to better education.

    After the Chinkypox plandemic, I don't see how anyone listens to elites anymore. It's not the statues that need to be brought down and tossed into the lake.

  26. Anon[112] • Disclaimer says:

    I vote Chicago. Chicago had 36 shootings on the 4th and has already racked up 32 more on the 5th.You expect New York to compete with that? No way.

    Halfway through 2020, Chicago has already surpassed the entire shot total of any of its previous 10 years. Hey, Chicago has a reputation to uphold. Its gangster violence and street shootings go all the way back to Al Capone.

    Data:

    https://heyjackass.com/

  27. Anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clifford Brown
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-rB0pHI9fU

    I did my patriotic duty yesterday and walked a fair bit of the length of Manhattan from The Battery to the East 90's. Overall things are shockingly in good shape.

    For some reason, the anti-capitalist revolution has not touched the Goldman Sachs headquarters and the expensive so-called art collection in its lobby. Wall Street is mysteriously untouched by this alleged anti-capitalist revolution. Really makes you think. In fact, lower Manhattan overall is largely unaffected. Life is good, if really quiet.

    The ONE place in New York that looks like Escape From New York is directly adjacent to City Hall. The so-called autonomous zone in New York is literally a large stretch of sidewalk adjacent to City Hall. City Hall Park itself is locked down by the NYPD. The pathetic pseudo-revolutionaries only control a small stretch of sidewalk.

    The only buildings in Lower Manhattan that are covered by ACAB, F12 and KILL PIGS graffiti are CITY BUILDINGS, the Surrogate Court and the old Tweed Courthouse which is now the Department of Education. I REPEAT, the only buildings in Manhattan that are covered in KILL COPS graffiti are controlled by THE MAYOR. The rest of the City is largely clean of anti-cop graffiti. Again, it really, really makes you THINK.

    THIS SHIT IS STAGED.

    https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/10698985g/a9f4bcab/occupy-city-hall-protest-in-new-york-calling-on-police-budget-cuts-usa-shutterstock-editorial-10698985g.jpg

    New York City DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THIS. ONLY TWO BUILDINGS CONTROLLED BY DE BLASIO DO.

    When I visited, there were at least three television news networks filming in front of the Surrogate Court. The news coverage implies that the entire City looks like the shit show that is the Surrogate Court, but this is manifestly NOT THE CASE. The Surrogate Court Building (which is beautiful and I love) is just a fake backdrop for the the FAKE REVOLUTION.

    Both the Surrogate Court and the Old Tweed Courthouse are two of the most beautiful buildings in North America. The interior of the Surrogate Court is particularly exquisite and I put it on par with the Paris Opera House. The original Paris Opera House, not the abomination they constructed in The Bastille.

    Walking the length of Manhattan, I passed through four different BLM protests. All of which were rather small. The anarchist crowd in New York is not as pathetic as they are in other cities. There is definitely an elite faction to New York antifa. I have attended anarchist events in New York and met journalists from Vogue, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, New York Times and NPR. Our elite media are anarchists who seek the destruction of our society. Antifa is definitely in the newsroom.

    I talked to four different NYPD officers during my walk. They were all outraged with the public. I talked to one black officer of Jamaican heritage who was one of the largest men that I have ever met (in terms of muscle) and he broke out racial crime statistics within 15 seconds. He had no love for George Floyd and made me feel like a liberal.

    I have noted the cult like aspects of the protest movement previously, but I want to point out that there is definitely an ANTIFA CULT in New York that eerily tracks that of Charles Manson cult. Attractive women who follow of a very strange dude. Mark it down. I have seen it. There is an antifa cult in New York. Not just "cult like", but a straight up Manson style cult.

    Soho was not as bad as I expected. Prada somehow avoided looting while on the very same block Dolce Gabbana was completely destroyed. Fjallraven and Uniqlo, probably the only stores I like in Soho, were up and running. There might be a message in that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rblYSKz_VnI

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Redneck farmer, @Technite78, @Obee, @SunBakedSuburb, @Anonymous

    I talked to one black officer of Jamaican heritage who was one of the largest men that I have ever met (in terms of muscle) and he broke out racial crime statistics within 15 seconds.

    What racial crime statistics did he cite?

    Fjallraven and Uniqlo, probably the only stores I like in Soho, were up and running. There might be a message in that.

    What might that message be?

  28. @Resistentialist
    New York City is really making a go of it. My mother’s apartment near Morningside Park is currently taped off by police from a shooting from early this morning. And checking the NY Post website, the tally is still going up.

    The place looks like a post-apocalyptic wasteland. The streets in that area are strewn with trash. Not to mention last week while driving through a pack of at least 30-40 dirt bikes and ATV’s came driving past on the wrong side of the road.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Nicholas Stix, @BenKenobi, @Anonymous, @Ed

    You’ve got it slightly wrong — it’s a pre-apocalyptic wasteland.

  29. OT: Cancel Hamilton is now trending on twitter because Hamilton traded slaves.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8492387/Backlash-Hamilton-musical-revisionist-history-days-debuted-Disney-amid-BLM-protests.html

    Leftists have a genius for attacking their own side. Soon, BLM and Antifa will have a grand total of 3 members left.

    • Thanks: The Wild Geese Howard
    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Anon


    OT: Cancel Hamilton is now trending on twitter because Hamilton traded slaves.

     

    Thanks; I'm looking forward to seeing how this one plays out. My FB feed is awash in girlishly-squealie posts from many of my middle-aged peers (mostly female, but sadly also quite a few male) who can't get enough of watching Hamilton on Disney network or something over the past weekend.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Anon

    "Leftists have a genius for attacking their own side"

    Rightists can easily exploit this snake-eating-its-own-tail tendency of leftists. But they won't. Rightists are too tightly structured and unimaginative. And leftists are in need of constant therapy. Hopefully, the asteroid will strike soon.

  30. @wren
    Hey there's a new contender in town!

    Not Atlanta, it's.....Omaha!

    I was just wondering about that city yesterday.

    https://fox42kptm.com/news/local/omaha-police-investigating-6-separate-shootings-during-4th-of-july-weekend

    Thankfully all have survived so far.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright, @J1234

    ‘Hey there’s a new contender in town!

    Not Atlanta, it’s…..Omaha!’

    They do have some blacks in Omaha, come to think of it.

  31. New York has more than twice as many blacks as Chicago (though a lower percentage), so New York definitely has the long term potential to go big on weekend shootings. Still, it takes time and effort to be able to put up the kind of numbers that Chicago does week in, week out. I think NYC is just not there yet. They need to curtail and demoralize the police force more. So I’m betting on Chicago. Maybe next year, New York!

  32. @Buzz Mohawk
    There is an easy solution for reversing the upswing in murders: just call them COVID-19 deaths.

    Chicago and New York could both do this, but which one has the edge for creative counting? The Windy City has a strong track record with votes, but the Big Apple probably has done more of it lately with deaths.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Cortes

    HeyJackass.com has a handy little table comparing case fatality rates for Covid19 against those for high velocity lead. It’s called the Corona-O-Meter.

  33. OT: There are reports of massive displays of illegal fireworks in LA on the evening of the 4th.

    Did you hear anything about this, Steve?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    I heard about 7 hours straight of non-stop fireworks, that's what I heard about. By nonstop I mean multiple bangs per 1 second interval from 8 pm to about 3 am.

    The house filled up with gunpowder smell.

    It was pretty much all from about Victory Boulevard north (i.e., Mexican neighborhoods). It must have been rough on dogs and cats, and who knows how many fires got started. An apartment building burned down in Northridge and there's now a brush fire in Soledad Canyon. I imagine a few people lost an eye, but you've got two of them.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-05/l-a-firefighters-respond-to-more-than-3-000-service-calls-on-a-busy-july-4

    On the other hand, it looked pretty great in helicopter footage.

    Mexicans are going stir crazy, so they shot off a lot of fireworks. But that's better than shooting their guns in the air like they used to do. I haven't heard about any looting or murders, so by 2020 standards it was pretty wholesome.

    It's an interesting economic indicator: apparently, a lot of working class people had enough cash to buy a lot of fireworks. It may have something to do with not spending much money for a couple of months.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anon, @szopen, @captflee, @Corvinus

  34. @Anon
    OT: Cancel Hamilton is now trending on twitter because Hamilton traded slaves.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8492387/Backlash-Hamilton-musical-revisionist-history-days-debuted-Disney-amid-BLM-protests.html

    Leftists have a genius for attacking their own side. Soon, BLM and Antifa will have a grand total of 3 members left.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @SunBakedSuburb

    OT: Cancel Hamilton is now trending on twitter because Hamilton traded slaves.

    Thanks; I’m looking forward to seeing how this one plays out. My FB feed is awash in girlishly-squealie posts from many of my middle-aged peers (mostly female, but sadly also quite a few male) who can’t get enough of watching Hamilton on Disney network or something over the past weekend.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Dude, your facebook friends are indicative of something, and that something is not good.

    I had to abandon facebook, except for family members, quite a while ago. I just couldn't take all the bragging, sobbing, politicking, emoting, tattoo-displaying, trivia-loving nonsense. Doesn't seeing all that trash disturb your peace and purpose? I think if you turn it off for a while you'll find your life improving. Maybe it's just me...

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

  35. Anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    May I introduce you to the year 2020

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    New York City is so gentrified now that it is unlikely to see any significant or sustained increase in crime. And the Jews wouldn’t stand for a large increase anyways.

    May I introduce you to the year 2020

    Sure. There isn’t really a critical mass of blacks left in New York City. See Clifford Brown’s comment in this thread.

  36. Anonymous[239] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    May I introduce you to the year 2020

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    New York City is so gentrified now that it is unlikely to see any significant or sustained increase in crime. And the Jews wouldn’t stand for a large increase anyways.

    May I introduce you to the year 2020

    Sure. There isn’t really a critical mass of blacks left in New York City. See Clifford Brown’s comment in this thread.

  37. @Mr. Anon
    OT: There are reports of massive displays of illegal fireworks in LA on the evening of the 4th.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DIad2tuVtg

    Did you hear anything about this, Steve?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I heard about 7 hours straight of non-stop fireworks, that’s what I heard about. By nonstop I mean multiple bangs per 1 second interval from 8 pm to about 3 am.

    The house filled up with gunpowder smell.

    It was pretty much all from about Victory Boulevard north (i.e., Mexican neighborhoods). It must have been rough on dogs and cats, and who knows how many fires got started. An apartment building burned down in Northridge and there’s now a brush fire in Soledad Canyon. I imagine a few people lost an eye, but you’ve got two of them.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-05/l-a-firefighters-respond-to-more-than-3-000-service-calls-on-a-busy-july-4

    On the other hand, it looked pretty great in helicopter footage.

    Mexicans are going stir crazy, so they shot off a lot of fireworks. But that’s better than shooting their guns in the air like they used to do. I haven’t heard about any looting or murders, so by 2020 standards it was pretty wholesome.

    It’s an interesting economic indicator: apparently, a lot of working class people had enough cash to buy a lot of fireworks. It may have something to do with not spending much money for a couple of months.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Steve Sailer


    It was pretty much all from about Victory Boulevard north (i.e., Mexican neighborhoods).
     
    On the twitter feed where I saw it, a lot of people were saying (or implying) that it was done by red-blooded American patriots flipping the bird at Gavin Newsome and Eric Garcetti, and that it presaged a red tidal wave this November. I thought that sounded, shall we say, highly unlikely. I take it that, macho firework display or not, Biden and whatever Nurse Ratched he picks for his running-mate will still have a lock on California.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    I find that a bit odd. Did Mexican communities celebrate the 4th like this in the past? I would have thought they would be lukewarm about the 4th, since it's basically a gringo holiday. Cinco de Mayo is more their thing.

    However, maybe it's a sign that Mexicans were indeed offended by the whole whiny black (and spoiled white kid) uproar.

    Replies: @RudyM

    , @szopen
    @Steve Sailer

    One right-wing Polish journalist once commented that fireworks are pretty much the thing of poor guys with low time preference. Wondering at the marvelous fireworks one night he wrote that those poor families just burnt several weeks of meals, just for fun. Seems it's same in America?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Barnard, @Polynikes

    , @captflee
    @Steve Sailer

    As the former proprietor of an acre and a half of horizontal steel just across the river from New Orleans, I grew all too aware of the number of slugs of every description making rosettes on my decks and cracking my paint. Doesn't even matter the day, the vibrants rival Arabs in their appreciation for feus de joie, but holidays are just ridiculous. In the course of a year or so, I collected a good Dixie Cup full by myself. I am of the opinion that only a merciful Providence prevents more from dying.

    , @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    "Mexicans are going stir crazy, so they shot off a lot of fireworks."

    Replace "Mexicans" with "Americans", and you would be accurate. My neighborhood and the surrounding neighborhood was like a war zone. The streets and fields were littered with spent shells and bottle rockets. Some White kid a few blocks down had to go to the emergency room. A firecracker exploded in his hand. He's nine.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  38. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    I heard about 7 hours straight of non-stop fireworks, that's what I heard about. By nonstop I mean multiple bangs per 1 second interval from 8 pm to about 3 am.

    The house filled up with gunpowder smell.

    It was pretty much all from about Victory Boulevard north (i.e., Mexican neighborhoods). It must have been rough on dogs and cats, and who knows how many fires got started. An apartment building burned down in Northridge and there's now a brush fire in Soledad Canyon. I imagine a few people lost an eye, but you've got two of them.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-05/l-a-firefighters-respond-to-more-than-3-000-service-calls-on-a-busy-july-4

    On the other hand, it looked pretty great in helicopter footage.

    Mexicans are going stir crazy, so they shot off a lot of fireworks. But that's better than shooting their guns in the air like they used to do. I haven't heard about any looting or murders, so by 2020 standards it was pretty wholesome.

    It's an interesting economic indicator: apparently, a lot of working class people had enough cash to buy a lot of fireworks. It may have something to do with not spending much money for a couple of months.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anon, @szopen, @captflee, @Corvinus

    It was pretty much all from about Victory Boulevard north (i.e., Mexican neighborhoods).

    On the twitter feed where I saw it, a lot of people were saying (or implying) that it was done by red-blooded American patriots flipping the bird at Gavin Newsome and Eric Garcetti, and that it presaged a red tidal wave this November. I thought that sounded, shall we say, highly unlikely. I take it that, macho firework display or not, Biden and whatever Nurse Ratched he picks for his running-mate will still have a lock on California.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    It's not impossible that Mexicans are tiring of Black Lives Matter 7/24. But, also, they don't really notice media trends all that much, so it's hard to say. In general, the San Fernando Valley has very little in the way of Mexican vs. black conflict because, while there are tens of thousands of blacks in the SFV, there are, as far as I can tell, no black neighborhoods. The SFV probably has the most integrated, most middle class population of blacks of over 25,000 of any place in the country. So while a big black vs. Mexican brawl broke out at the Lakewood Mall between Compton and Long Beach recently, the SFV has been pretty quiet.

  39. @Mr. Anon
    @Steve Sailer


    It was pretty much all from about Victory Boulevard north (i.e., Mexican neighborhoods).
     
    On the twitter feed where I saw it, a lot of people were saying (or implying) that it was done by red-blooded American patriots flipping the bird at Gavin Newsome and Eric Garcetti, and that it presaged a red tidal wave this November. I thought that sounded, shall we say, highly unlikely. I take it that, macho firework display or not, Biden and whatever Nurse Ratched he picks for his running-mate will still have a lock on California.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    It’s not impossible that Mexicans are tiring of Black Lives Matter 7/24. But, also, they don’t really notice media trends all that much, so it’s hard to say. In general, the San Fernando Valley has very little in the way of Mexican vs. black conflict because, while there are tens of thousands of blacks in the SFV, there are, as far as I can tell, no black neighborhoods. The SFV probably has the most integrated, most middle class population of blacks of over 25,000 of any place in the country. So while a big black vs. Mexican brawl broke out at the Lakewood Mall between Compton and Long Beach recently, the SFV has been pretty quiet.

  40. @RichardTaylor
    What matters is how many Whites killed Blacks.

    Nobody, including liberals, thinks Black people can be held to the same moral standards as Whites.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Nobody, including liberals, thinks Black people can be held to the same moral standards as Whites.

    Well, they can’t. That’s why God made oceans.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    Bobcats can't be held to the same standards as Whites either, what does that have to do with anything? The point is, you don't kill White people in order to give bobcats the vote.

    Oceans and mountains don't mean anything. Whites have lived on every continent on earth and will soon live in space.

    Please grow up.

    Replies: @botazefa, @Reg Cæsar

  41. @Clifford Brown
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-rB0pHI9fU

    I did my patriotic duty yesterday and walked a fair bit of the length of Manhattan from The Battery to the East 90's. Overall things are shockingly in good shape.

    For some reason, the anti-capitalist revolution has not touched the Goldman Sachs headquarters and the expensive so-called art collection in its lobby. Wall Street is mysteriously untouched by this alleged anti-capitalist revolution. Really makes you think. In fact, lower Manhattan overall is largely unaffected. Life is good, if really quiet.

    The ONE place in New York that looks like Escape From New York is directly adjacent to City Hall. The so-called autonomous zone in New York is literally a large stretch of sidewalk adjacent to City Hall. City Hall Park itself is locked down by the NYPD. The pathetic pseudo-revolutionaries only control a small stretch of sidewalk.

    The only buildings in Lower Manhattan that are covered by ACAB, F12 and KILL PIGS graffiti are CITY BUILDINGS, the Surrogate Court and the old Tweed Courthouse which is now the Department of Education. I REPEAT, the only buildings in Manhattan that are covered in KILL COPS graffiti are controlled by THE MAYOR. The rest of the City is largely clean of anti-cop graffiti. Again, it really, really makes you THINK.

    THIS SHIT IS STAGED.

    https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/10698985g/a9f4bcab/occupy-city-hall-protest-in-new-york-calling-on-police-budget-cuts-usa-shutterstock-editorial-10698985g.jpg

    New York City DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THIS. ONLY TWO BUILDINGS CONTROLLED BY DE BLASIO DO.

    When I visited, there were at least three television news networks filming in front of the Surrogate Court. The news coverage implies that the entire City looks like the shit show that is the Surrogate Court, but this is manifestly NOT THE CASE. The Surrogate Court Building (which is beautiful and I love) is just a fake backdrop for the the FAKE REVOLUTION.

    Both the Surrogate Court and the Old Tweed Courthouse are two of the most beautiful buildings in North America. The interior of the Surrogate Court is particularly exquisite and I put it on par with the Paris Opera House. The original Paris Opera House, not the abomination they constructed in The Bastille.

    Walking the length of Manhattan, I passed through four different BLM protests. All of which were rather small. The anarchist crowd in New York is not as pathetic as they are in other cities. There is definitely an elite faction to New York antifa. I have attended anarchist events in New York and met journalists from Vogue, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, New York Times and NPR. Our elite media are anarchists who seek the destruction of our society. Antifa is definitely in the newsroom.

    I talked to four different NYPD officers during my walk. They were all outraged with the public. I talked to one black officer of Jamaican heritage who was one of the largest men that I have ever met (in terms of muscle) and he broke out racial crime statistics within 15 seconds. He had no love for George Floyd and made me feel like a liberal.

    I have noted the cult like aspects of the protest movement previously, but I want to point out that there is definitely an ANTIFA CULT in New York that eerily tracks that of Charles Manson cult. Attractive women who follow of a very strange dude. Mark it down. I have seen it. There is an antifa cult in New York. Not just "cult like", but a straight up Manson style cult.

    Soho was not as bad as I expected. Prada somehow avoided looting while on the very same block Dolce Gabbana was completely destroyed. Fjallraven and Uniqlo, probably the only stores I like in Soho, were up and running. There might be a message in that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rblYSKz_VnI

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Redneck farmer, @Technite78, @Obee, @SunBakedSuburb, @Anonymous

    So, the media’s in on it? Color me unsurprised.

  42. Anon[112] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    I heard about 7 hours straight of non-stop fireworks, that's what I heard about. By nonstop I mean multiple bangs per 1 second interval from 8 pm to about 3 am.

    The house filled up with gunpowder smell.

    It was pretty much all from about Victory Boulevard north (i.e., Mexican neighborhoods). It must have been rough on dogs and cats, and who knows how many fires got started. An apartment building burned down in Northridge and there's now a brush fire in Soledad Canyon. I imagine a few people lost an eye, but you've got two of them.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-05/l-a-firefighters-respond-to-more-than-3-000-service-calls-on-a-busy-july-4

    On the other hand, it looked pretty great in helicopter footage.

    Mexicans are going stir crazy, so they shot off a lot of fireworks. But that's better than shooting their guns in the air like they used to do. I haven't heard about any looting or murders, so by 2020 standards it was pretty wholesome.

    It's an interesting economic indicator: apparently, a lot of working class people had enough cash to buy a lot of fireworks. It may have something to do with not spending much money for a couple of months.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anon, @szopen, @captflee, @Corvinus

    I find that a bit odd. Did Mexican communities celebrate the 4th like this in the past? I would have thought they would be lukewarm about the 4th, since it’s basically a gringo holiday. Cinco de Mayo is more their thing.

    However, maybe it’s a sign that Mexicans were indeed offended by the whole whiny black (and spoiled white kid) uproar.

    • Replies: @RudyM
    @Anon

    I live in a heavily Mexican neighborhood, and people shooting off lots of fireworks on the 4th of July (as well as the week leading up to it, and maybe the week after) has been going on for the years I've lived here (not quite a decade). At least it's not on the scale of what's happening in some larger cities. It's pretty frustrating, since my neighborhood is generally quiet at night. I think it's less a matter of celebrating the 4th of July than an excuse to be a little wild. Do that many non-Irish really care about St. Patrick's Day, or do they just want an excuse to get plastered?

  43. @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor


    Nobody, including liberals, thinks Black people can be held to the same moral standards as Whites.
     
    Well, they can't. That's why God made oceans.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor

    Bobcats can’t be held to the same standards as Whites either, what does that have to do with anything? The point is, you don’t kill White people in order to give bobcats the vote.

    Oceans and mountains don’t mean anything. Whites have lived on every continent on earth and will soon live in space.

    Please grow up.

    • Replies: @botazefa
    @RichardTaylor


    Oceans and mountains don’t mean anything. Whites have lived on every continent on earth and will soon live in space.
     
    What about oceans of sand, like the Sahara?
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @RichardTaylor


    Bobcats can’t be held to the same standards as Whites either, what does that have to do with anything? The point is, you don’t kill White people in order to give bobcats the vote.
     
    Bobcats are native to North America.
  44. Chicago. The problems I wrote about previously have not gone away. My neighborhood and the adjoining one are going bad, it looks like, after sliding more slowly for several years.

  45. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    I heard about 7 hours straight of non-stop fireworks, that's what I heard about. By nonstop I mean multiple bangs per 1 second interval from 8 pm to about 3 am.

    The house filled up with gunpowder smell.

    It was pretty much all from about Victory Boulevard north (i.e., Mexican neighborhoods). It must have been rough on dogs and cats, and who knows how many fires got started. An apartment building burned down in Northridge and there's now a brush fire in Soledad Canyon. I imagine a few people lost an eye, but you've got two of them.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-05/l-a-firefighters-respond-to-more-than-3-000-service-calls-on-a-busy-july-4

    On the other hand, it looked pretty great in helicopter footage.

    Mexicans are going stir crazy, so they shot off a lot of fireworks. But that's better than shooting their guns in the air like they used to do. I haven't heard about any looting or murders, so by 2020 standards it was pretty wholesome.

    It's an interesting economic indicator: apparently, a lot of working class people had enough cash to buy a lot of fireworks. It may have something to do with not spending much money for a couple of months.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anon, @szopen, @captflee, @Corvinus

    One right-wing Polish journalist once commented that fireworks are pretty much the thing of poor guys with low time preference. Wondering at the marvelous fireworks one night he wrote that those poor families just burnt several weeks of meals, just for fun. Seems it’s same in America?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @szopen

    Basically, but still, there are worse things guys can do with an extra $500 than delight the neighborhood kids.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Grumpy, @Joe Stalin

    , @Barnard
    @szopen

    My wife and I were wondering if the increase in fireworks we heard this year was a result of people deciding to spend more money on that because they didn't take their typical summer vacation with their kids due to Covid. I certainly can't blame them for that if they did. There seemed to be almost no police patrol to stop fireworks this year, which was not a surprise.

    , @Polynikes
    @szopen

    Adam Carolla has a comedic device called Rich man/poor man. Driving old cars is an example. Poor people do it out of necessity; rich people fix them up and drive them for fun.

    Fireworks were this weeks entry. Lots of poor people wasting money on them. Of course the lake I spent the weekend on has about a million dollar entry fee for homes and fireworks were in abundance and one home put on a private show that would match some small towns’ displays.

  46. I have a friend that travels the country delivering freight. He has been everywhere in the lower 48 (except Maine) and talks to a lot of people and studies them. His impression is the most civilized blacks live in the DC-Boston corridor while the most savage blacks live in the Midwest…the entire region.

  47. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Lesson is that blacks act out to the degree they can get away with. Power outage leading to darkness results in looting. Police being unable to capture perps leads to shootings and criminality. The supposed police brutality is a natural byproduct of having to monitor and sit on top of this population. Unlike other groups blacks have to be controlled from without. De-policing brings this current situation about which stupid liberal white people can’t wrap their heads around.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anonymous

    One wonders how on earth did they survive - if this is their natural mode of life - before they were transported to America?
    The implication is that a population which habitually behaves like that would have 'burnt itself out' in that the normal level of viciousness would have effected extinction. Yet, evidently, this did not happen, and could not have been an evolutionary outcome.

    Replies: @Anon7, @Seneca44, @El Dato, @Gordo, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

  48. @szopen
    @Steve Sailer

    One right-wing Polish journalist once commented that fireworks are pretty much the thing of poor guys with low time preference. Wondering at the marvelous fireworks one night he wrote that those poor families just burnt several weeks of meals, just for fun. Seems it's same in America?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Barnard, @Polynikes

    Basically, but still, there are worse things guys can do with an extra $500 than delight the neighborhood kids.

    • Agree: botazefa
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Steve Sailer

    Well, HeyJackass.com has the Chicago weekend totals as follows:

    20 dead, 72 wounded, 92 total casualties

    But that's over a four day weekend or something.

    The New York Post says:

    "Forty-nine people were wounded in shootings over the weekend in New York, eight of them fatally.

    In the Windy City, 67 people were wounded by gunfire, 13 of them fatally."

    Chicago wins again, by unanimous decision.

    , @Grumpy
    @Steve Sailer

    I get the impression that fireworks are safer than they used to be. There seem to be far more of them these days, but I hear less about horrific accidents than in the past. Is that the case?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Joe Stalin
    @Steve Sailer

    In the People's Republic of Chicago, even SPARKLERS are banned.

  49. Anonymous[160] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    Lesson is that blacks act out to the degree they can get away with. Power outage leading to darkness results in looting. Police being unable to capture perps leads to shootings and criminality. The supposed police brutality is a natural byproduct of having to monitor and sit on top of this population. Unlike other groups blacks have to be controlled from without. De-policing brings this current situation about which stupid liberal white people can't wrap their heads around.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    One wonders how on earth did they survive – if this is their natural mode of life – before they were transported to America?
    The implication is that a population which habitually behaves like that would have ‘burnt itself out’ in that the normal level of viciousness would have effected extinction. Yet, evidently, this did not happen, and could not have been an evolutionary outcome.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    @Anonymous

    It's Human Biodiversity. HBD. Here's how it works in this context, as far as I know.

    There are these white European people. Their ancestors lived together and intermarried and went to church and lived in their towns and villages for 1500+ years. There were some who did better and had lots more children.

    These people lived together in a particular way. They tend to be very cooperative and nice. It's evolution.

    Today, one way to see just how successful one of these whites might be is to measure his IQ. Higher IQ means higher fitness to do well in the economic system they created over 1500 years. Don't confuse it with words like "smart" or "intelligent" even though they do.

    THEN, there are these other people. Black people from Africa. They lived together and intermarried for many thousands of years. They have their own standards for what is "smart" and "cooperative". These standards suit them perfectly, in their homeland in Africa, but don't really fit in with the standards of the white people. They're different.

    That's it. You can't make them fit in, not the whole group. Yes, you can pick out a tenth or less blacks that score well enough on "IQ" tests and exhibit enough "niceness" to fit in. But the rest don't, and you never know when one of the offspring will absimilate, and return to the norms of his race.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @Seneca44
    @Anonymous

    In strictly Darwinian terms the high reproductive rate associated with multiple partners selected for those who were both fertile and horny.

    , @El Dato
    @Anonymous

    It worked pretty well with local kings being wholesomely gruesome. It was not Kumbaya, more like Rwanda.

    You can mill around multiple thousands of years like that in a quasi-steady state. And why not.

    The problem comes from the encounters across the Sahara, starting with the Egyptians who got some grief from marauding Nubians 3000 years ago.

    , @Gordo
    @Anonymous


    The implication is that a population which habitually behaves like that would have ‘burnt itself out’ in that the normal level of viciousness would have effected extinction.
     
    I get the idea that the oceans and the Sahara, plus diseases to which they and only they had resistance, protected them for a long time.
    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    One wonders how on earth did they survive – if this is their natural mode of life – before they were transported to America?
    The implication is that a population which habitually behaves like that would have ‘burnt itself out’ in that the normal level of viciousness would have effected extinction. Yet, evidently, this did not happen, and could not have been an evolutionary outcome.
     
    The “environment” was different where they came from. Key phrase in the comment you are replying to is, “to the extent they can get away with it.”
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    One wonders how on earth did they survive – if this is their natural mode of life – before they were transported to America?
     
    Or after?

    I posted a wanted poster on a later thread that offered a reward of over $14,000 (in 2020 dollars) for the return of a group of these creatures.

    Mr Scaggs, who put them up, belonged in a mental institution. Why not just let them go, and hire white men? They cost more, but actually do the work.
  50. @prosa123
    Almost all of the NYC shootings have been knucklehead vs. knucklehead things.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    The new, approved technical term is Joggers

  51. Anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    New York City is so gentrified now that it is unlikely to see any significant or sustained increase in crime. And the Jews wouldn’t stand for a large increase anyways.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @RudyM, @kaganovitch

    Abandoned more accurately. Anyone who could afford to leave is in jersey or long island.

  52. @Reg Cæsar
    @wren

    Bob Gibson was one black Omahan who could hit the strike zone. And the ball, too, when at the plate.

    Replies: @Georgina Floyd, @FPD72

    Bob was kind of wild actually, but he got lots of batters to chase the high fastball. As a mid Michigan boy, I was thrilled to see him lose the final World Series game to the Tigers.

    • Replies: @Wake up
    @Georgina Floyd

    Bob Gibson was a notorious nasty guy, filled with anger. If someone hit a home run off of him, the next time that batter was at the plate, Gibson would throw at him. I never understood why batters would take that bullying. Maybe if someone would have cracked Gibson’s head, he wouldn’t have done that again.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corvinus

  53. @Reg Cæsar
    @wren

    Bob Gibson was one black Omahan who could hit the strike zone. And the ball, too, when at the plate.

    Replies: @Georgina Floyd, @FPD72

    Gibson’s 1968 season (The Year of the Pitcher) was incredible. He finished the season with a 1.12 ERA, won 22 games (while losing two 1-0 complete games), and won two World Series games.

    I got to see him pitch against the Dodgers that season. He came into the game with 47 consecutive scoreless innings, threatening to break the record that Don Drysdale had set earlier that season. The Dodgers managed to scratch out a run in the first inning, preserving Drysdale’s record, and then scored nada the rest of the game.

    He had played basketball for hometown Creighton, where he averaged 22 points per game his junior year. After college he played one year with the Harlem Globetrotters before devoting himself solely to baseball.

    • Replies: @usNthem
    @FPD72

    I was die hard cardinals fan back in the day & hated seeing Gibson lose that game, but I believe it was his third in the series, so was probably running on fumes. The Tiger’s big gun that year, McLain was a bust, but Lolich saved the day.

  54. @Clifford Brown
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-rB0pHI9fU

    I did my patriotic duty yesterday and walked a fair bit of the length of Manhattan from The Battery to the East 90's. Overall things are shockingly in good shape.

    For some reason, the anti-capitalist revolution has not touched the Goldman Sachs headquarters and the expensive so-called art collection in its lobby. Wall Street is mysteriously untouched by this alleged anti-capitalist revolution. Really makes you think. In fact, lower Manhattan overall is largely unaffected. Life is good, if really quiet.

    The ONE place in New York that looks like Escape From New York is directly adjacent to City Hall. The so-called autonomous zone in New York is literally a large stretch of sidewalk adjacent to City Hall. City Hall Park itself is locked down by the NYPD. The pathetic pseudo-revolutionaries only control a small stretch of sidewalk.

    The only buildings in Lower Manhattan that are covered by ACAB, F12 and KILL PIGS graffiti are CITY BUILDINGS, the Surrogate Court and the old Tweed Courthouse which is now the Department of Education. I REPEAT, the only buildings in Manhattan that are covered in KILL COPS graffiti are controlled by THE MAYOR. The rest of the City is largely clean of anti-cop graffiti. Again, it really, really makes you THINK.

    THIS SHIT IS STAGED.

    https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/10698985g/a9f4bcab/occupy-city-hall-protest-in-new-york-calling-on-police-budget-cuts-usa-shutterstock-editorial-10698985g.jpg

    New York City DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THIS. ONLY TWO BUILDINGS CONTROLLED BY DE BLASIO DO.

    When I visited, there were at least three television news networks filming in front of the Surrogate Court. The news coverage implies that the entire City looks like the shit show that is the Surrogate Court, but this is manifestly NOT THE CASE. The Surrogate Court Building (which is beautiful and I love) is just a fake backdrop for the the FAKE REVOLUTION.

    Both the Surrogate Court and the Old Tweed Courthouse are two of the most beautiful buildings in North America. The interior of the Surrogate Court is particularly exquisite and I put it on par with the Paris Opera House. The original Paris Opera House, not the abomination they constructed in The Bastille.

    Walking the length of Manhattan, I passed through four different BLM protests. All of which were rather small. The anarchist crowd in New York is not as pathetic as they are in other cities. There is definitely an elite faction to New York antifa. I have attended anarchist events in New York and met journalists from Vogue, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, New York Times and NPR. Our elite media are anarchists who seek the destruction of our society. Antifa is definitely in the newsroom.

    I talked to four different NYPD officers during my walk. They were all outraged with the public. I talked to one black officer of Jamaican heritage who was one of the largest men that I have ever met (in terms of muscle) and he broke out racial crime statistics within 15 seconds. He had no love for George Floyd and made me feel like a liberal.

    I have noted the cult like aspects of the protest movement previously, but I want to point out that there is definitely an ANTIFA CULT in New York that eerily tracks that of Charles Manson cult. Attractive women who follow of a very strange dude. Mark it down. I have seen it. There is an antifa cult in New York. Not just "cult like", but a straight up Manson style cult.

    Soho was not as bad as I expected. Prada somehow avoided looting while on the very same block Dolce Gabbana was completely destroyed. Fjallraven and Uniqlo, probably the only stores I like in Soho, were up and running. There might be a message in that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rblYSKz_VnI

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Redneck farmer, @Technite78, @Obee, @SunBakedSuburb, @Anonymous

    Sorry, but false.

    My building in NoHo was entirely encased in plywood, which was quickly covered in graffiti. For two weeks straight, protesters walked through the neighborhood from City Hall to Washington Square and Union Square Parks… from mid afternoon through the early morning hours, shouting their slogans into megaphones.

    As of three weeks ago, there were a lot of boarded up storefronts throughout SoHo and Noho. Now? I don’t know. I’ve bugged out to temporary digs while looking at real estate outside the purview of de Blasio and Cuomo.

    Prediction: the tax base of NYC is going to crater within a year.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    @Technite78

    I in no way meant to discount the pending retail apocalypse. Urban America is in for a very rough ride over the next few years. Biden and the Democrats will likely offer some sort of massive bailout to Democratic Cities and States that have burned themselves to the ground in the name of The Revolution.

    I was presenting a single day snapshot of Manhattan one month after the looting. What I saw was less of an ongoing revolution than the aftermath of a fast moving forest fire that ripped through the City, but seems to have mostly dissipated. I could be wrong, but that is my take. Manhattan below Canal Street is largely unaffected outside of the Mayor sanctioned Freak Fest adjacent to City Hall. There is a staging area for the media with a picture perfect backdrop of the desecrated Surrogate Court meanwhile the rest of the City is largely unaffected. There are still many boarded up storefronts, but it is kind of amazing what just a little bit of concentrated push back can do against the forces of entropy. I was actually encouraged by my experience despite everything.

    It is shocking how many new buildings have started construction in the last three months. Shocking. I assume nothing is in the pipeline going forward, but Big Capital is finishing its current projects at a brisk pace.

    I unintentionally walked by the three Nike Stores in Manhattan all of which had been looted. Heavy set Black bouncer types now defend these stores 24/7. At least someone is economically benefitting from The Revolution. Brands that target a particular demographic were looted by said demographic. Hard not to take some solace in that. I am not much of a shopper, but the few stores that appeal to me in Soho (ie the Dork demographic) were up and running.

    I will say one thing, the next time the Democrats declare THE PURGE, I am going to hit up some of the high end art galleries. The art galleries in Soho these days are rather crass and decidedly middlebrow, but it is both hilarious and depressing to see street level art galleries featuring Warhols and Basquiat paintings behind untouched glass facades while the Visigoths from The Bronx ripped apart Nike Lab, SUPREME and assorted “streetwear" brand storefronts. What a bunch of morons. The real looting payoff in Manhattan are the West Chelsea art galleries, not the Nike Store. I walked by MOMA which would be the real mother load. While it has steel barricades, the building is inherently vulnerable due to its rambling multi-building design. I wonder if anyone has tried to walk off with a Jackson Pollack or two?

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Anonymous

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Technite78


    Prediction: the tax base of NYC is going to crater within a year.
     
    All levels of government below federal will/already suffer decreased revenue, and not only from people who have decided to GTFO out of urban areas, thus decreasing the tax base. Spending is down which means sales tax revenue is down. Income is down which means income tax revenue is down. Expect major tax hikes next year, and cries for federal bail outs.
  55. @Clyde
    @Thomas


    NYC will have a ways to go to catch up. Significant parts of the city have been gentrified since Giuliani. Chicago still has a bunch of heavily-black ghettos, especially on its west side.
     
    Chicago blacks have always been tougher
    It is colder there
    Nation of Islam is there

    Replies: @TomSchmidt

    They’re mostly from Mississippi in Chicago, while NYC has a lot of WestIndians. Thomas Sowell once pointed out that West Indians had higher average income than whites.

  56. @Clifford Brown
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-rB0pHI9fU

    I did my patriotic duty yesterday and walked a fair bit of the length of Manhattan from The Battery to the East 90's. Overall things are shockingly in good shape.

    For some reason, the anti-capitalist revolution has not touched the Goldman Sachs headquarters and the expensive so-called art collection in its lobby. Wall Street is mysteriously untouched by this alleged anti-capitalist revolution. Really makes you think. In fact, lower Manhattan overall is largely unaffected. Life is good, if really quiet.

    The ONE place in New York that looks like Escape From New York is directly adjacent to City Hall. The so-called autonomous zone in New York is literally a large stretch of sidewalk adjacent to City Hall. City Hall Park itself is locked down by the NYPD. The pathetic pseudo-revolutionaries only control a small stretch of sidewalk.

    The only buildings in Lower Manhattan that are covered by ACAB, F12 and KILL PIGS graffiti are CITY BUILDINGS, the Surrogate Court and the old Tweed Courthouse which is now the Department of Education. I REPEAT, the only buildings in Manhattan that are covered in KILL COPS graffiti are controlled by THE MAYOR. The rest of the City is largely clean of anti-cop graffiti. Again, it really, really makes you THINK.

    THIS SHIT IS STAGED.

    https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/10698985g/a9f4bcab/occupy-city-hall-protest-in-new-york-calling-on-police-budget-cuts-usa-shutterstock-editorial-10698985g.jpg

    New York City DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THIS. ONLY TWO BUILDINGS CONTROLLED BY DE BLASIO DO.

    When I visited, there were at least three television news networks filming in front of the Surrogate Court. The news coverage implies that the entire City looks like the shit show that is the Surrogate Court, but this is manifestly NOT THE CASE. The Surrogate Court Building (which is beautiful and I love) is just a fake backdrop for the the FAKE REVOLUTION.

    Both the Surrogate Court and the Old Tweed Courthouse are two of the most beautiful buildings in North America. The interior of the Surrogate Court is particularly exquisite and I put it on par with the Paris Opera House. The original Paris Opera House, not the abomination they constructed in The Bastille.

    Walking the length of Manhattan, I passed through four different BLM protests. All of which were rather small. The anarchist crowd in New York is not as pathetic as they are in other cities. There is definitely an elite faction to New York antifa. I have attended anarchist events in New York and met journalists from Vogue, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, New York Times and NPR. Our elite media are anarchists who seek the destruction of our society. Antifa is definitely in the newsroom.

    I talked to four different NYPD officers during my walk. They were all outraged with the public. I talked to one black officer of Jamaican heritage who was one of the largest men that I have ever met (in terms of muscle) and he broke out racial crime statistics within 15 seconds. He had no love for George Floyd and made me feel like a liberal.

    I have noted the cult like aspects of the protest movement previously, but I want to point out that there is definitely an ANTIFA CULT in New York that eerily tracks that of Charles Manson cult. Attractive women who follow of a very strange dude. Mark it down. I have seen it. There is an antifa cult in New York. Not just "cult like", but a straight up Manson style cult.

    Soho was not as bad as I expected. Prada somehow avoided looting while on the very same block Dolce Gabbana was completely destroyed. Fjallraven and Uniqlo, probably the only stores I like in Soho, were up and running. There might be a message in that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rblYSKz_VnI

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Redneck farmer, @Technite78, @Obee, @SunBakedSuburb, @Anonymous

    You missed Fordham Road. Definitely not staged up in the Bronx.

  57. @Anonymous
    @anonymous

    One wonders how on earth did they survive - if this is their natural mode of life - before they were transported to America?
    The implication is that a population which habitually behaves like that would have 'burnt itself out' in that the normal level of viciousness would have effected extinction. Yet, evidently, this did not happen, and could not have been an evolutionary outcome.

    Replies: @Anon7, @Seneca44, @El Dato, @Gordo, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    It’s Human Biodiversity. HBD. Here’s how it works in this context, as far as I know.

    There are these white European people. Their ancestors lived together and intermarried and went to church and lived in their towns and villages for 1500+ years. There were some who did better and had lots more children.

    These people lived together in a particular way. They tend to be very cooperative and nice. It’s evolution.

    Today, one way to see just how successful one of these whites might be is to measure his IQ. Higher IQ means higher fitness to do well in the economic system they created over 1500 years. Don’t confuse it with words like “smart” or “intelligent” even though they do.

    THEN, there are these other people. Black people from Africa. They lived together and intermarried for many thousands of years. They have their own standards for what is “smart” and “cooperative”. These standards suit them perfectly, in their homeland in Africa, but don’t really fit in with the standards of the white people. They’re different.

    That’s it. You can’t make them fit in, not the whole group. Yes, you can pick out a tenth or less blacks that score well enough on “IQ” tests and exhibit enough “niceness” to fit in. But the rest don’t, and you never know when one of the offspring will absimilate, and return to the norms of his race.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Anon7

    "There are these white European people. Their ancestors lived together and intermarried and went to church and lived in their towns and villages for 1500+ years. There were some who did better and had lots more children. These people lived together in a particular way. They tend to be very cooperative and nice."

    Amid the spread of disease, the impoverished masses, wars for territory by monarchs, and religious upheaval. Yes, it's evolutionary. It's as if we are (gasp) human.

    "These standards suit them perfectly, in their homeland in Africa, but don’t really fit in with the standards of the white people. They’re different."

    Not as different as you have been led to believe. But if we assume your statement to be logical, then you're going to have to admit those "standards of white people" applied only to certain whites at various points in our nation's history. There lacked this uniformity as you seem to imply.

    Only those of stout Anglo-Saxon heritage served as the conduit to Western Civilization superiority and American exceptionalism. According to nativists in the 1840’s/1850’s, German and Irish immigrants diluted the English stock with their alien customs. Likewise, according to nativists in the 1890’s and early 1900’s, Italians and Poles and Slavs diluted the Western European stock with their filthy lifestyles.

    The 1924 Quota Act was a long-waited panacea to reign in such an odious creature, a wonderful piece of legislation that would make Hans F.K. Gunther proud. See, the simple fact of the matter, from the WASP point of view, is that the Eastern/Southern Europeans are infected with the “chosenite” virus. Stellar at patronizing, but not so much at moral consistency and applying to themselves the standards they demand of others.

    Face it, the Poles were especially notorious for being dirty, disease-ridden papists. The Italians bred like rabbits, lived in cramped quarters, and would not even bat an eyelash to bash in someone’s skull for a plug nickel. Yet, here we are with millions of them in the United States currently claiming they were historically embraced by their WASP counterparts because they were “white” and “European”, while simultaneously denying opportunities to others that their forefathers and foremothers received. Nostalgia has a funny way of distorting what truly went on in the past. WASPs were absolutely correct in connecting these particular groups with their own unique “proboscis” instinct. It is an absolute shame that the aforementioned legislation unfortunately failed miserably in its purpose and intention.

    The notion of “whites” or “European-whites” being bound together came about as a result of Social Darwinism and imperialism in the late 1800’s–the distinction that separated “us” from “them”. In this manner, the “lowest-rung” whites were deemed superior in social standing than their darkie counterparts, while at the same time knew full well their “pecking order” within the European hierarchy. The following source offers extensive evidence to prove this point.

    http://science.jrank.org/pages/10962/Race-Racism-in-Europe-French-Revolution-Nation.html

    Replies: @Anon7

  58. @Anonymous
    New York City is so gentrified now that it is unlikely to see any significant or sustained increase in crime. And the Jews wouldn’t stand for a large increase anyways.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @RudyM, @kaganovitch

    But are Jews still in control of their golem?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @RudyM


    But are Jews still in control of their golem?
     
    Yes.
  59. @Anonymous
    @anonymous

    One wonders how on earth did they survive - if this is their natural mode of life - before they were transported to America?
    The implication is that a population which habitually behaves like that would have 'burnt itself out' in that the normal level of viciousness would have effected extinction. Yet, evidently, this did not happen, and could not have been an evolutionary outcome.

    Replies: @Anon7, @Seneca44, @El Dato, @Gordo, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    In strictly Darwinian terms the high reproductive rate associated with multiple partners selected for those who were both fertile and horny.

  60. @Anonymous
    @anonymous

    One wonders how on earth did they survive - if this is their natural mode of life - before they were transported to America?
    The implication is that a population which habitually behaves like that would have 'burnt itself out' in that the normal level of viciousness would have effected extinction. Yet, evidently, this did not happen, and could not have been an evolutionary outcome.

    Replies: @Anon7, @Seneca44, @El Dato, @Gordo, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    It worked pretty well with local kings being wholesomely gruesome. It was not Kumbaya, more like Rwanda.

    You can mill around multiple thousands of years like that in a quasi-steady state. And why not.

    The problem comes from the encounters across the Sahara, starting with the Egyptians who got some grief from marauding Nubians 3000 years ago.

  61. @Anon
    @Steve Sailer

    I find that a bit odd. Did Mexican communities celebrate the 4th like this in the past? I would have thought they would be lukewarm about the 4th, since it's basically a gringo holiday. Cinco de Mayo is more their thing.

    However, maybe it's a sign that Mexicans were indeed offended by the whole whiny black (and spoiled white kid) uproar.

    Replies: @RudyM

    I live in a heavily Mexican neighborhood, and people shooting off lots of fireworks on the 4th of July (as well as the week leading up to it, and maybe the week after) has been going on for the years I’ve lived here (not quite a decade). At least it’s not on the scale of what’s happening in some larger cities. It’s pretty frustrating, since my neighborhood is generally quiet at night. I think it’s less a matter of celebrating the 4th of July than an excuse to be a little wild. Do that many non-Irish really care about St. Patrick’s Day, or do they just want an excuse to get plastered?

  62. @Anonymous
    @anonymous

    One wonders how on earth did they survive - if this is their natural mode of life - before they were transported to America?
    The implication is that a population which habitually behaves like that would have 'burnt itself out' in that the normal level of viciousness would have effected extinction. Yet, evidently, this did not happen, and could not have been an evolutionary outcome.

    Replies: @Anon7, @Seneca44, @El Dato, @Gordo, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    The implication is that a population which habitually behaves like that would have ‘burnt itself out’ in that the normal level of viciousness would have effected extinction.

    I get the idea that the oceans and the Sahara, plus diseases to which they and only they had resistance, protected them for a long time.

  63. New Orleans over the weekend had 13 shot, 4 killed, for 3 per 100,000 and 1 per 100,000 respectively. I think that beats any other large American city. Chicago comes in at less than half.

  64. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Beat me to it, Buzz. I think NYC should have a big clock, right under the big national debt clock there in Times Square, or wherever it is, with the numbers ticking off for COVID-one-niner vs. murders in New York. (Chicago can get its own damn clock.)

    People could root for one or the other, and there could be off-hospital betting. Even more importantly, some of our experts in Washington, FS, that tell us what to do, can use the data to decide each morning if we should have LOCKDOWN days or RIOT days. "Go Morningside Park! She's a mudder. Her muddah was a mudder."

    Replies: @Dr. Krieger, @Nicholas Stix

    Nice Seinfeld reference.

  65. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Resistentialist
    New York City is really making a go of it. My mother’s apartment near Morningside Park is currently taped off by police from a shooting from early this morning. And checking the NY Post website, the tally is still going up.

    The place looks like a post-apocalyptic wasteland. The streets in that area are strewn with trash. Not to mention last week while driving through a pack of at least 30-40 dirt bikes and ATV’s came driving past on the wrong side of the road.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Nicholas Stix, @BenKenobi, @Anonymous, @Ed

    My mother’s apartment near Morningside Park is currently taped off by police from a shooting from early this morning.

    Is that an area in which one would have expected shootings pre-May 2020?

  66. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Anon


    OT: Cancel Hamilton is now trending on twitter because Hamilton traded slaves.

     

    Thanks; I'm looking forward to seeing how this one plays out. My FB feed is awash in girlishly-squealie posts from many of my middle-aged peers (mostly female, but sadly also quite a few male) who can't get enough of watching Hamilton on Disney network or something over the past weekend.

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    Dude, your facebook friends are indicative of something, and that something is not good.

    I had to abandon facebook, except for family members, quite a while ago. I just couldn’t take all the bragging, sobbing, politicking, emoting, tattoo-displaying, trivia-loving nonsense. Doesn’t seeing all that trash disturb your peace and purpose? I think if you turn it off for a while you’ll find your life improving. Maybe it’s just me…

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @stillCARealist


    I had to abandon facebook, except for family members, quite a while ago.

     

    I've been putting people on 30-day hiatus, and/or then turning off their feeds for quite a while now.

    But as I've mentioned here before, I'm disconcerted by how many of my solid midwestern fiscally-sober Christian middle-aged friends simply cannot get enough of certain pop culture products, Hamilton foremost among them.

  67. “Who Will Have More Shootings Over the 4th of July Weekend: Veteran Chicago or New Contender New York?”

    I’ll take “Who gives a sh*t for $500, Alex”

    These blue cities in blue states can burn to the ground for all I care.

  68. @Steve Sailer
    @szopen

    Basically, but still, there are worse things guys can do with an extra $500 than delight the neighborhood kids.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Grumpy, @Joe Stalin

    Well, HeyJackass.com has the Chicago weekend totals as follows:

    20 dead, 72 wounded, 92 total casualties

    But that’s over a four day weekend or something.

    The New York Post says:

    “Forty-nine people were wounded in shootings over the weekend in New York, eight of them fatally.

    In the Windy City, 67 people were wounded by gunfire, 13 of them fatally.”

    Chicago wins again, by unanimous decision.

  69. @szopen
    @Steve Sailer

    One right-wing Polish journalist once commented that fireworks are pretty much the thing of poor guys with low time preference. Wondering at the marvelous fireworks one night he wrote that those poor families just burnt several weeks of meals, just for fun. Seems it's same in America?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Barnard, @Polynikes

    My wife and I were wondering if the increase in fireworks we heard this year was a result of people deciding to spend more money on that because they didn’t take their typical summer vacation with their kids due to Covid. I certainly can’t blame them for that if they did. There seemed to be almost no police patrol to stop fireworks this year, which was not a surprise.

    • Agree: Corvinus
  70. @RichardTaylor
    This shouldn't be happening. The Really Smart people told us if we joined the 20th century and forced desegregation, we would find ourselves in a better world.

    Liberals like LBJ and Republicans like Nixon all agreed.

    Golly, what happened? Odd, because the same crowd said South Africa should embrace progress and they seem to be having problems too. Oh well, I'm just glad those mean old Working class White people weren't listened to.

    Replies: @Neuday

    This shouldn’t be happening. The Really Smart people told us if we joined the 20th century and forced desegregation, we would find ourselves in a better world.

    We were also told that the most important thing in the world was freedom of speech, and that being highly critical of America proved how much you loved it and was absolutely not at all anti-American but ackually highly patriotic.

    We were also told that, despite the 2/5/10/18/26-trillion-dollar national debt, America is a very rich country and can totally afford whatever social program or overseas fiasco was dreamed up.

    We were also told that increasing per pupil spending would directly correlate to better education.

    After the Chinkypox plandemic, I don’t see how anyone listens to elites anymore. It’s not the statues that need to be brought down and tossed into the lake.

    • Agree: RichardTaylor
  71. @Clifford Brown
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-rB0pHI9fU

    I did my patriotic duty yesterday and walked a fair bit of the length of Manhattan from The Battery to the East 90's. Overall things are shockingly in good shape.

    For some reason, the anti-capitalist revolution has not touched the Goldman Sachs headquarters and the expensive so-called art collection in its lobby. Wall Street is mysteriously untouched by this alleged anti-capitalist revolution. Really makes you think. In fact, lower Manhattan overall is largely unaffected. Life is good, if really quiet.

    The ONE place in New York that looks like Escape From New York is directly adjacent to City Hall. The so-called autonomous zone in New York is literally a large stretch of sidewalk adjacent to City Hall. City Hall Park itself is locked down by the NYPD. The pathetic pseudo-revolutionaries only control a small stretch of sidewalk.

    The only buildings in Lower Manhattan that are covered by ACAB, F12 and KILL PIGS graffiti are CITY BUILDINGS, the Surrogate Court and the old Tweed Courthouse which is now the Department of Education. I REPEAT, the only buildings in Manhattan that are covered in KILL COPS graffiti are controlled by THE MAYOR. The rest of the City is largely clean of anti-cop graffiti. Again, it really, really makes you THINK.

    THIS SHIT IS STAGED.

    https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/10698985g/a9f4bcab/occupy-city-hall-protest-in-new-york-calling-on-police-budget-cuts-usa-shutterstock-editorial-10698985g.jpg

    New York City DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THIS. ONLY TWO BUILDINGS CONTROLLED BY DE BLASIO DO.

    When I visited, there were at least three television news networks filming in front of the Surrogate Court. The news coverage implies that the entire City looks like the shit show that is the Surrogate Court, but this is manifestly NOT THE CASE. The Surrogate Court Building (which is beautiful and I love) is just a fake backdrop for the the FAKE REVOLUTION.

    Both the Surrogate Court and the Old Tweed Courthouse are two of the most beautiful buildings in North America. The interior of the Surrogate Court is particularly exquisite and I put it on par with the Paris Opera House. The original Paris Opera House, not the abomination they constructed in The Bastille.

    Walking the length of Manhattan, I passed through four different BLM protests. All of which were rather small. The anarchist crowd in New York is not as pathetic as they are in other cities. There is definitely an elite faction to New York antifa. I have attended anarchist events in New York and met journalists from Vogue, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, New York Times and NPR. Our elite media are anarchists who seek the destruction of our society. Antifa is definitely in the newsroom.

    I talked to four different NYPD officers during my walk. They were all outraged with the public. I talked to one black officer of Jamaican heritage who was one of the largest men that I have ever met (in terms of muscle) and he broke out racial crime statistics within 15 seconds. He had no love for George Floyd and made me feel like a liberal.

    I have noted the cult like aspects of the protest movement previously, but I want to point out that there is definitely an ANTIFA CULT in New York that eerily tracks that of Charles Manson cult. Attractive women who follow of a very strange dude. Mark it down. I have seen it. There is an antifa cult in New York. Not just "cult like", but a straight up Manson style cult.

    Soho was not as bad as I expected. Prada somehow avoided looting while on the very same block Dolce Gabbana was completely destroyed. Fjallraven and Uniqlo, probably the only stores I like in Soho, were up and running. There might be a message in that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rblYSKz_VnI

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Redneck farmer, @Technite78, @Obee, @SunBakedSuburb, @Anonymous

    “the anti-capitalist revolution has not touched the Goldman Sachs headquarters”

    At this point, Goldman Sachs security is probably more effective than the broken NYPD. There is also the long history of financier-funded revolutions: moneymen do revolutions; revolutions are not done to them.

    “THIS SHIT IS STAGED”

    All the BLM stuff is false-flag. Blacks are very cavalier in regard to the health and well-being of their own people while being incredibly narcissistic individually. And it is beyond doubt that white progressives view blacks as prisms through which their virtues will be illuminated. An asteroid can solve the problems that plague us though the various manufactured plague bio-weapons will probably survive the environmental catastrophe the asteroid will inflict.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @SunBakedSuburb

    There is also the long history of financier-funded revolutions: moneymen do revolutions; revolutions are not done to them.

    This is why the Wawelberg ,Imperial era Jewish banking dynasty along with Boris Abramovich Kamenka's Azov-Don bank, still bestride the world like colossi.

  72. @Steve Sailer
    @szopen

    Basically, but still, there are worse things guys can do with an extra $500 than delight the neighborhood kids.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Grumpy, @Joe Stalin

    I get the impression that fireworks are safer than they used to be. There seem to be far more of them these days, but I hear less about horrific accidents than in the past. Is that the case?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Grumpy


    I get the impression that fireworks are safer than they used to be. There seem to be far more of them these days, but I hear less about horrific accidents than in the past. Is that the case?
     
    As with shooting victims, it could just be better and faster medical treatment.
  73. Don’t discount Atlanta, where the violent “unrest” gives its dark-horse VP candidate mayor a chance to grandstand

  74. @wren
    Hey there's a new contender in town!

    Not Atlanta, it's.....Omaha!

    I was just wondering about that city yesterday.

    https://fox42kptm.com/news/local/omaha-police-investigating-6-separate-shootings-during-4th-of-july-weekend

    Thankfully all have survived so far.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright, @J1234

    This is nothing new. A few years ago, I read that Omaha was statistically the most dangerous city in the US for young black men. I don’t know if that’s still true or not.

    The problem is significantly black north Omaha, which is where all of the shootings took place this weekend, according to the map. I spent some years of my youth in north Omaha when our family moved there right before I entered high school. Thankfully, I attended an all white (at that time) high school outside of the area. You could do that back then.

    When I was a small child, the problems were confined to what was called the near north side. Then they expanded – along with the black population – to about 52nd st., then 72nd st. and beyond. The worst of it is still the predominantly black near north. By contrast, my dad told me that back in the 1930’s that any able bodied white man could walk through the near north side alone without much concern for their safety (it was largely black back then, too.) It was only lone white women who needed to be concerned.

    Anyway, my wife grew up in Michigan only an hour away from Detroit, but her upbringing in an all white community has left her with a great degree of naivete about black communities. So – very contrary to what you might think – the guy from Nebraska in the family is the one with all the street smarts.

    • Thanks: wren
  75. @Anon
    OT: Cancel Hamilton is now trending on twitter because Hamilton traded slaves.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8492387/Backlash-Hamilton-musical-revisionist-history-days-debuted-Disney-amid-BLM-protests.html

    Leftists have a genius for attacking their own side. Soon, BLM and Antifa will have a grand total of 3 members left.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @SunBakedSuburb

    “Leftists have a genius for attacking their own side”

    Rightists can easily exploit this snake-eating-its-own-tail tendency of leftists. But they won’t. Rightists are too tightly structured and unimaginative. And leftists are in need of constant therapy. Hopefully, the asteroid will strike soon.

  76. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    I heard about 7 hours straight of non-stop fireworks, that's what I heard about. By nonstop I mean multiple bangs per 1 second interval from 8 pm to about 3 am.

    The house filled up with gunpowder smell.

    It was pretty much all from about Victory Boulevard north (i.e., Mexican neighborhoods). It must have been rough on dogs and cats, and who knows how many fires got started. An apartment building burned down in Northridge and there's now a brush fire in Soledad Canyon. I imagine a few people lost an eye, but you've got two of them.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-05/l-a-firefighters-respond-to-more-than-3-000-service-calls-on-a-busy-july-4

    On the other hand, it looked pretty great in helicopter footage.

    Mexicans are going stir crazy, so they shot off a lot of fireworks. But that's better than shooting their guns in the air like they used to do. I haven't heard about any looting or murders, so by 2020 standards it was pretty wholesome.

    It's an interesting economic indicator: apparently, a lot of working class people had enough cash to buy a lot of fireworks. It may have something to do with not spending much money for a couple of months.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anon, @szopen, @captflee, @Corvinus

    As the former proprietor of an acre and a half of horizontal steel just across the river from New Orleans, I grew all too aware of the number of slugs of every description making rosettes on my decks and cracking my paint. Doesn’t even matter the day, the vibrants rival Arabs in their appreciation for feus de joie, but holidays are just ridiculous. In the course of a year or so, I collected a good Dixie Cup full by myself. I am of the opinion that only a merciful Providence prevents more from dying.

  77. @Steve Sailer
    @szopen

    Basically, but still, there are worse things guys can do with an extra $500 than delight the neighborhood kids.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Grumpy, @Joe Stalin

    In the People’s Republic of Chicago, even SPARKLERS are banned.

  78. @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    Bobcats can't be held to the same standards as Whites either, what does that have to do with anything? The point is, you don't kill White people in order to give bobcats the vote.

    Oceans and mountains don't mean anything. Whites have lived on every continent on earth and will soon live in space.

    Please grow up.

    Replies: @botazefa, @Reg Cæsar

    Oceans and mountains don’t mean anything. Whites have lived on every continent on earth and will soon live in space.

    What about oceans of sand, like the Sahara?

  79. Steve,

    You should compare the Trump Administrations surrender on Covid-19 to the left’s surrender on crime, public schools, global warming, etc. It seems that the left is now reduced to cancelling middle class whites and tearing down statues because they have realize that everything else they have touched is a failure.

  80. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    I heard about 7 hours straight of non-stop fireworks, that's what I heard about. By nonstop I mean multiple bangs per 1 second interval from 8 pm to about 3 am.

    The house filled up with gunpowder smell.

    It was pretty much all from about Victory Boulevard north (i.e., Mexican neighborhoods). It must have been rough on dogs and cats, and who knows how many fires got started. An apartment building burned down in Northridge and there's now a brush fire in Soledad Canyon. I imagine a few people lost an eye, but you've got two of them.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-05/l-a-firefighters-respond-to-more-than-3-000-service-calls-on-a-busy-july-4

    On the other hand, it looked pretty great in helicopter footage.

    Mexicans are going stir crazy, so they shot off a lot of fireworks. But that's better than shooting their guns in the air like they used to do. I haven't heard about any looting or murders, so by 2020 standards it was pretty wholesome.

    It's an interesting economic indicator: apparently, a lot of working class people had enough cash to buy a lot of fireworks. It may have something to do with not spending much money for a couple of months.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anon, @szopen, @captflee, @Corvinus

    “Mexicans are going stir crazy, so they shot off a lot of fireworks.”

    Replace “Mexicans” with “Americans”, and you would be accurate. My neighborhood and the surrounding neighborhood was like a war zone. The streets and fields were littered with spent shells and bottle rockets. Some White kid a few blocks down had to go to the emergency room. A firecracker exploded in his hand. He’s nine.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Corvinus


    The streets and fields were littered with spent shells and bottle rockets.
     
    Really? Spent shells littering the streets and fields. Where do you live? Falujah?

    This sort of thing is why everybody thinks you're full of shit.
  81. @Anon7
    @Anonymous

    It's Human Biodiversity. HBD. Here's how it works in this context, as far as I know.

    There are these white European people. Their ancestors lived together and intermarried and went to church and lived in their towns and villages for 1500+ years. There were some who did better and had lots more children.

    These people lived together in a particular way. They tend to be very cooperative and nice. It's evolution.

    Today, one way to see just how successful one of these whites might be is to measure his IQ. Higher IQ means higher fitness to do well in the economic system they created over 1500 years. Don't confuse it with words like "smart" or "intelligent" even though they do.

    THEN, there are these other people. Black people from Africa. They lived together and intermarried for many thousands of years. They have their own standards for what is "smart" and "cooperative". These standards suit them perfectly, in their homeland in Africa, but don't really fit in with the standards of the white people. They're different.

    That's it. You can't make them fit in, not the whole group. Yes, you can pick out a tenth or less blacks that score well enough on "IQ" tests and exhibit enough "niceness" to fit in. But the rest don't, and you never know when one of the offspring will absimilate, and return to the norms of his race.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “There are these white European people. Their ancestors lived together and intermarried and went to church and lived in their towns and villages for 1500+ years. There were some who did better and had lots more children. These people lived together in a particular way. They tend to be very cooperative and nice.”

    Amid the spread of disease, the impoverished masses, wars for territory by monarchs, and religious upheaval. Yes, it’s evolutionary. It’s as if we are (gasp) human.

    “These standards suit them perfectly, in their homeland in Africa, but don’t really fit in with the standards of the white people. They’re different.”

    Not as different as you have been led to believe. But if we assume your statement to be logical, then you’re going to have to admit those “standards of white people” applied only to certain whites at various points in our nation’s history. There lacked this uniformity as you seem to imply.

    Only those of stout Anglo-Saxon heritage served as the conduit to Western Civilization superiority and American exceptionalism. According to nativists in the 1840’s/1850’s, German and Irish immigrants diluted the English stock with their alien customs. Likewise, according to nativists in the 1890’s and early 1900’s, Italians and Poles and Slavs diluted the Western European stock with their filthy lifestyles.

    The 1924 Quota Act was a long-waited panacea to reign in such an odious creature, a wonderful piece of legislation that would make Hans F.K. Gunther proud. See, the simple fact of the matter, from the WASP point of view, is that the Eastern/Southern Europeans are infected with the “chosenite” virus. Stellar at patronizing, but not so much at moral consistency and applying to themselves the standards they demand of others.

    Face it, the Poles were especially notorious for being dirty, disease-ridden papists. The Italians bred like rabbits, lived in cramped quarters, and would not even bat an eyelash to bash in someone’s skull for a plug nickel. Yet, here we are with millions of them in the United States currently claiming they were historically embraced by their WASP counterparts because they were “white” and “European”, while simultaneously denying opportunities to others that their forefathers and foremothers received. Nostalgia has a funny way of distorting what truly went on in the past. WASPs were absolutely correct in connecting these particular groups with their own unique “proboscis” instinct. It is an absolute shame that the aforementioned legislation unfortunately failed miserably in its purpose and intention.

    The notion of “whites” or “European-whites” being bound together came about as a result of Social Darwinism and imperialism in the late 1800’s–the distinction that separated “us” from “them”. In this manner, the “lowest-rung” whites were deemed superior in social standing than their darkie counterparts, while at the same time knew full well their “pecking order” within the European hierarchy. The following source offers extensive evidence to prove this point.

    http://science.jrank.org/pages/10962/Race-Racism-in-Europe-French-Revolution-Nation.html

    • Replies: @Anon7
    @Corvinus

    I'm of English and Danish stock myself - those other European whites sound disgusting! And yet, the Danes came over in the latter portion of the 19th century - and DESTROYED AMERICA!

    Well, actually they built tidy little communities and towns, full of industrious people who were, well, nice.

    And those Germans - they DESTROYED AMERICA!

    Well, actually they also built tidy little communities and towns, full of industrious people who were, well, nice.

    And those Scandinavians (in addition to Danes) - DESTROYED... well, they built lots of nice towns in Minnesota and Wisconsin, but they're too nice, maybe.

    The French built tidy little towns like Montreal, the Dutch built tidy towns like those in New York state, so who am I leaving out?

    Okay the rest of the Europeans - trash! No wait, the Poles came to Michigan and built Hamtramck, a tidy little town full of industrious people who were nice - and then turned it over to the Muslims! Who knew that would happen.

    Southern Italians, below the Hajnal line, now they're a bit beyond the pale (so to speak).

    Anyway, those white European people. You could build a new country in the wilderness with those people.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  82. @Georgina Floyd
    @Reg Cæsar

    Bob was kind of wild actually, but he got lots of batters to chase the high fastball. As a mid Michigan boy, I was thrilled to see him lose the final World Series game to the Tigers.

    Replies: @Wake up

    Bob Gibson was a notorious nasty guy, filled with anger. If someone hit a home run off of him, the next time that batter was at the plate, Gibson would throw at him. I never understood why batters would take that bullying. Maybe if someone would have cracked Gibson’s head, he wouldn’t have done that again.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Wake up

    Gibson didn't hit all that many batters relative to his number of wild pitches. He wasn't a gentleman like Koufax (who didn't hit a single batter in his last season while winning 27 games), but Gibson didn't hit as many batsman as Don Drysdale, or the meanest of them all, Senator Jim Bunning.

    , @Corvinus
    @Wake up

    https://www.baseball-fever.com/forum/general-baseball/history-of-the-game/91008-bob-gibson-s-personality


    I read Gibson's autobiography. Great read, I recommend it. He said he had to have a certain level of intensity/personality to play his best. It wasn't just all McCarver, when Gibson went to All-Star games he wouldn't speak to or acknowledge his "teammates" because they were still the enemy. And in one incident cited by Joe Torre, who became one of Gibby's closest friends and caught him one time in an All-Star Game, he deliberately refused to throw what Torre called because he didn't want Torre to see his stuff that close up because it might give him an edge batting against Gibson in real games.

    And the only times he really threw at people with the intent to hit them and not to send them a message was when a batter would dive across the plate to try to hit the outside strike, his philosophy was that was his spot, his bread and butter, and batters didn't have a right to hit that pitch, he said they could have the middle of the plate and the inside part of the plate if he missed, but not the outside strike. Which would leave him in a world of hurt today. He also whined somewhat about how the persona has followed him around after his playing days, and why don't people understand it was just something he felt he needed to do to excel. Which to me shows a certain naivete on his part. You can't don that persona to that extent and not expect it to remain attached to you permanently.
     

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

  83. @FPD72
    @Reg Cæsar

    Gibson’s 1968 season (The Year of the Pitcher) was incredible. He finished the season with a 1.12 ERA, won 22 games (while losing two 1-0 complete games), and won two World Series games.

    I got to see him pitch against the Dodgers that season. He came into the game with 47 consecutive scoreless innings, threatening to break the record that Don Drysdale had set earlier that season. The Dodgers managed to scratch out a run in the first inning, preserving Drysdale’s record, and then scored nada the rest of the game.

    He had played basketball for hometown Creighton, where he averaged 22 points per game his junior year. After college he played one year with the Harlem Globetrotters before devoting himself solely to baseball.

    Replies: @usNthem

    I was die hard cardinals fan back in the day & hated seeing Gibson lose that game, but I believe it was his third in the series, so was probably running on fumes. The Tiger’s big gun that year, McLain was a bust, but Lolich saved the day.

  84. Anonymous[366] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @anonymous

    One wonders how on earth did they survive - if this is their natural mode of life - before they were transported to America?
    The implication is that a population which habitually behaves like that would have 'burnt itself out' in that the normal level of viciousness would have effected extinction. Yet, evidently, this did not happen, and could not have been an evolutionary outcome.

    Replies: @Anon7, @Seneca44, @El Dato, @Gordo, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    One wonders how on earth did they survive – if this is their natural mode of life – before they were transported to America?
    The implication is that a population which habitually behaves like that would have ‘burnt itself out’ in that the normal level of viciousness would have effected extinction. Yet, evidently, this did not happen, and could not have been an evolutionary outcome.

    The “environment” was different where they came from. Key phrase in the comment you are replying to is, “to the extent they can get away with it.”

  85. Anonymous[366] • Disclaimer says:
    @RudyM
    @Anonymous

    But are Jews still in control of their golem?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    But are Jews still in control of their golem?

    Yes.

  86. Nobody dares to say bluntly:
    Leftist PC policies cause unimaginable damage.
    Ferguson effect, NOT using stop-and-frisk, affirmative action and loans, welfare cost and single motherhood, the cost in money, destroyed lives and homicides are mind boggling.
    https://4racism.org/
    “Racism” Saves Lives, Freedom of Speech, Banks, the World Economy
    Even Breitbart blocks the term
    “We used to shoot Looters” Amren
    as alternative to the deadly chaos we have.
    find it on https://4racism.org/site-map.html using ctrl-f search for looters and check other areticles

    Shooting orders would probably have stopped the riots in the beginning. Maybe nobody would have died at all
    Weeks of deadly, injuring, and business-destroying looting could have been nipped in the bud.
    Now Blacks start to arm. Total disaster is looming

    The media lies, expounded in sincerity .net, actively CAUSE riots. We here know that there is no REASON for even peaceful protest, because Blacks are coddled and privileged in the US. So much that all of Africa wants to come to white run countries.

  87. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clifford Brown
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-rB0pHI9fU

    I did my patriotic duty yesterday and walked a fair bit of the length of Manhattan from The Battery to the East 90's. Overall things are shockingly in good shape.

    For some reason, the anti-capitalist revolution has not touched the Goldman Sachs headquarters and the expensive so-called art collection in its lobby. Wall Street is mysteriously untouched by this alleged anti-capitalist revolution. Really makes you think. In fact, lower Manhattan overall is largely unaffected. Life is good, if really quiet.

    The ONE place in New York that looks like Escape From New York is directly adjacent to City Hall. The so-called autonomous zone in New York is literally a large stretch of sidewalk adjacent to City Hall. City Hall Park itself is locked down by the NYPD. The pathetic pseudo-revolutionaries only control a small stretch of sidewalk.

    The only buildings in Lower Manhattan that are covered by ACAB, F12 and KILL PIGS graffiti are CITY BUILDINGS, the Surrogate Court and the old Tweed Courthouse which is now the Department of Education. I REPEAT, the only buildings in Manhattan that are covered in KILL COPS graffiti are controlled by THE MAYOR. The rest of the City is largely clean of anti-cop graffiti. Again, it really, really makes you THINK.

    THIS SHIT IS STAGED.

    https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/10698985g/a9f4bcab/occupy-city-hall-protest-in-new-york-calling-on-police-budget-cuts-usa-shutterstock-editorial-10698985g.jpg

    New York City DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THIS. ONLY TWO BUILDINGS CONTROLLED BY DE BLASIO DO.

    When I visited, there were at least three television news networks filming in front of the Surrogate Court. The news coverage implies that the entire City looks like the shit show that is the Surrogate Court, but this is manifestly NOT THE CASE. The Surrogate Court Building (which is beautiful and I love) is just a fake backdrop for the the FAKE REVOLUTION.

    Both the Surrogate Court and the Old Tweed Courthouse are two of the most beautiful buildings in North America. The interior of the Surrogate Court is particularly exquisite and I put it on par with the Paris Opera House. The original Paris Opera House, not the abomination they constructed in The Bastille.

    Walking the length of Manhattan, I passed through four different BLM protests. All of which were rather small. The anarchist crowd in New York is not as pathetic as they are in other cities. There is definitely an elite faction to New York antifa. I have attended anarchist events in New York and met journalists from Vogue, Vanity Fair, Rolling Stone, New York Times and NPR. Our elite media are anarchists who seek the destruction of our society. Antifa is definitely in the newsroom.

    I talked to four different NYPD officers during my walk. They were all outraged with the public. I talked to one black officer of Jamaican heritage who was one of the largest men that I have ever met (in terms of muscle) and he broke out racial crime statistics within 15 seconds. He had no love for George Floyd and made me feel like a liberal.

    I have noted the cult like aspects of the protest movement previously, but I want to point out that there is definitely an ANTIFA CULT in New York that eerily tracks that of Charles Manson cult. Attractive women who follow of a very strange dude. Mark it down. I have seen it. There is an antifa cult in New York. Not just "cult like", but a straight up Manson style cult.

    Soho was not as bad as I expected. Prada somehow avoided looting while on the very same block Dolce Gabbana was completely destroyed. Fjallraven and Uniqlo, probably the only stores I like in Soho, were up and running. There might be a message in that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rblYSKz_VnI

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anonymous, @Redneck farmer, @Technite78, @Obee, @SunBakedSuburb, @Anonymous

    Fjallraven and Uniqlo, probably the only stores I like in Soho, were up and running. There might be a message in that.

    When you say, “up and running,” do you mean they were looted, but sustained only minor damage? Or that they were entirely unscathed?

    Fjallraven is not familiar to me. However, if Uniqlo is the same “no visible logo” clothier I have in mind, I would think the fact that looters are attracted to flash gear would have helped to make them a relatively (if not altogether) unattractive target for looters.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
    @Anonymous

    Fjallraven is a Scandivian hiking brand. Their backpacks have become ubiquitous in recent years. I am a fan of their hiking pants which are decidedly unfashionable, but also virtually indestructible. When I watched the livestream of the looting of Soho, I took solace in the fact that they would not touch the Fjallraven store.

    I spoke with the manager of the store and it turns out that the looters did in fact break into the store, but basically did not take anything! Turns out utilitarian high end Scandinavian hiking gear is does not appeal to the looter demographic. Who could have guessed? I joked with the staff of the store that there the looters were likely not that into hiking. The staff being PC automatons brains froze and said “Well, we really don’t know if they like to hike or not.”

    What a world.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  88. @RichardTaylor
    @Reg Cæsar

    Bobcats can't be held to the same standards as Whites either, what does that have to do with anything? The point is, you don't kill White people in order to give bobcats the vote.

    Oceans and mountains don't mean anything. Whites have lived on every continent on earth and will soon live in space.

    Please grow up.

    Replies: @botazefa, @Reg Cæsar

    Bobcats can’t be held to the same standards as Whites either, what does that have to do with anything? The point is, you don’t kill White people in order to give bobcats the vote.

    Bobcats are native to North America.

  89. @Technite78
    @Clifford Brown

    Sorry, but false.

    My building in NoHo was entirely encased in plywood, which was quickly covered in graffiti. For two weeks straight, protesters walked through the neighborhood from City Hall to Washington Square and Union Square Parks... from mid afternoon through the early morning hours, shouting their slogans into megaphones.

    As of three weeks ago, there were a lot of boarded up storefronts throughout SoHo and Noho. Now? I don't know. I've bugged out to temporary digs while looking at real estate outside the purview of de Blasio and Cuomo.

    Prediction: the tax base of NYC is going to crater within a year.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Jim Don Bob

    I in no way meant to discount the pending retail apocalypse. Urban America is in for a very rough ride over the next few years. Biden and the Democrats will likely offer some sort of massive bailout to Democratic Cities and States that have burned themselves to the ground in the name of The Revolution.

    I was presenting a single day snapshot of Manhattan one month after the looting. What I saw was less of an ongoing revolution than the aftermath of a fast moving forest fire that ripped through the City, but seems to have mostly dissipated. I could be wrong, but that is my take. Manhattan below Canal Street is largely unaffected outside of the Mayor sanctioned Freak Fest adjacent to City Hall. There is a staging area for the media with a picture perfect backdrop of the desecrated Surrogate Court meanwhile the rest of the City is largely unaffected. There are still many boarded up storefronts, but it is kind of amazing what just a little bit of concentrated push back can do against the forces of entropy. I was actually encouraged by my experience despite everything.

    It is shocking how many new buildings have started construction in the last three months. Shocking. I assume nothing is in the pipeline going forward, but Big Capital is finishing its current projects at a brisk pace.

    I unintentionally walked by the three Nike Stores in Manhattan all of which had been looted. Heavy set Black bouncer types now defend these stores 24/7. At least someone is economically benefitting from The Revolution. Brands that target a particular demographic were looted by said demographic. Hard not to take some solace in that. I am not much of a shopper, but the few stores that appeal to me in Soho (ie the Dork demographic) were up and running.

    I will say one thing, the next time the Democrats declare THE PURGE, I am going to hit up some of the high end art galleries. The art galleries in Soho these days are rather crass and decidedly middlebrow, but it is both hilarious and depressing to see street level art galleries featuring Warhols and Basquiat paintings behind untouched glass facades while the Visigoths from The Bronx ripped apart Nike Lab, SUPREME and assorted “streetwear” brand storefronts. What a bunch of morons. The real looting payoff in Manhattan are the West Chelsea art galleries, not the Nike Store. I walked by MOMA which would be the real mother load. While it has steel barricades, the building is inherently vulnerable due to its rambling multi-building design. I wonder if anyone has tried to walk off with a Jackson Pollack or two?

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @Clifford Brown

    Who the heck would steal a Jackson Pollack painting? They'd take one look at it and throw it in a dumpster. And wow, Warhol and Basquiat? More garbage. Now I admire the tastes of the looters. At least you can wear shoes.

    , @Anonymous
    @Clifford Brown


    I in no way meant to discount the pending retail apocalypse.
     
    What do you foresee? Why?

    Urban America is in for a very rough ride over the next few years.
     
    What makes you think that?
  90. @Anonymous
    @Clifford Brown



    Fjallraven and Uniqlo, probably the only stores I like in Soho, were up and running. There might be a message in that.

     

    When you say, "up and running," do you mean they were looted, but sustained only minor damage? Or that they were entirely unscathed?

    Fjallraven is not familiar to me. However, if Uniqlo is the same "no visible logo" clothier I have in mind, I would think the fact that looters are attracted to flash gear would have helped to make them a relatively (if not altogether) unattractive target for looters.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown

    Fjallraven is a Scandivian hiking brand. Their backpacks have become ubiquitous in recent years. I am a fan of their hiking pants which are decidedly unfashionable, but also virtually indestructible. When I watched the livestream of the looting of Soho, I took solace in the fact that they would not touch the Fjallraven store.

    I spoke with the manager of the store and it turns out that the looters did in fact break into the store, but basically did not take anything! Turns out utilitarian high end Scandinavian hiking gear is does not appeal to the looter demographic. Who could have guessed? I joked with the staff of the store that there the looters were likely not that into hiking. The staff being PC automatons brains froze and said “Well, we really don’t know if they like to hike or not.”

    What a world.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Clifford Brown


    I spoke with the manager of the store and it turns out that the looters did in fact break into the store, but basically did not take anything!
     
    I would not be at all surprised to learn the Uniqlo shop unwent something similar.


    Turns out utilitarian high end Scandinavian hiking gear is does not appeal to the looter demographic.

     

    I suspect Uniqlo's low-key, no-logo clothing holds even less appeal for the bling-conscious.

    In any case, thank you for telling me about Fjallraven. I will certainly bear them in mind should I ever find myself in need of theft-deterring hiking gear.

    (Rather a shame about the shop staff. When you mentioned the brand was Scandinavian, I briefly entertained hopes the store was manned either by enormous, surly Swedes or fight-loving Finns who would be only too glad to engage with looters.)
  91. @Anonymous
    New York City is so gentrified now that it is unlikely to see any significant or sustained increase in crime. And the Jews wouldn’t stand for a large increase anyways.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @RudyM, @kaganovitch

    New York City is so gentrified now that it is unlikely to see any significant or sustained increase in crime. And the Jews wouldn’t stand for a large increase anyways.

    It’s unfortunate that the Jews only came into being in 1992. Had they existed earlier, we could have avoided the unpleasantness of the high crime era in NYC in the seventies and eighties.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @kaganovitch



    New York City is so gentrified now that it is unlikely to see any significant or sustained increase in crime. And the Jews wouldn’t stand for a large increase anyways.
     
    It’s unfortunate that the Jews only came into being in 1992. Had they existed earlier, we could have avoided the unpleasantness of the high crime era in NYC in the seventies and eighties.
     
    Jews are significantly more powerful now relative to other ethnic groups than they were in the 1970s, 1980s, even the 1990s.
  92. @Corvinus
    @Anon7

    "There are these white European people. Their ancestors lived together and intermarried and went to church and lived in their towns and villages for 1500+ years. There were some who did better and had lots more children. These people lived together in a particular way. They tend to be very cooperative and nice."

    Amid the spread of disease, the impoverished masses, wars for territory by monarchs, and religious upheaval. Yes, it's evolutionary. It's as if we are (gasp) human.

    "These standards suit them perfectly, in their homeland in Africa, but don’t really fit in with the standards of the white people. They’re different."

    Not as different as you have been led to believe. But if we assume your statement to be logical, then you're going to have to admit those "standards of white people" applied only to certain whites at various points in our nation's history. There lacked this uniformity as you seem to imply.

    Only those of stout Anglo-Saxon heritage served as the conduit to Western Civilization superiority and American exceptionalism. According to nativists in the 1840’s/1850’s, German and Irish immigrants diluted the English stock with their alien customs. Likewise, according to nativists in the 1890’s and early 1900’s, Italians and Poles and Slavs diluted the Western European stock with their filthy lifestyles.

    The 1924 Quota Act was a long-waited panacea to reign in such an odious creature, a wonderful piece of legislation that would make Hans F.K. Gunther proud. See, the simple fact of the matter, from the WASP point of view, is that the Eastern/Southern Europeans are infected with the “chosenite” virus. Stellar at patronizing, but not so much at moral consistency and applying to themselves the standards they demand of others.

    Face it, the Poles were especially notorious for being dirty, disease-ridden papists. The Italians bred like rabbits, lived in cramped quarters, and would not even bat an eyelash to bash in someone’s skull for a plug nickel. Yet, here we are with millions of them in the United States currently claiming they were historically embraced by their WASP counterparts because they were “white” and “European”, while simultaneously denying opportunities to others that their forefathers and foremothers received. Nostalgia has a funny way of distorting what truly went on in the past. WASPs were absolutely correct in connecting these particular groups with their own unique “proboscis” instinct. It is an absolute shame that the aforementioned legislation unfortunately failed miserably in its purpose and intention.

    The notion of “whites” or “European-whites” being bound together came about as a result of Social Darwinism and imperialism in the late 1800’s–the distinction that separated “us” from “them”. In this manner, the “lowest-rung” whites were deemed superior in social standing than their darkie counterparts, while at the same time knew full well their “pecking order” within the European hierarchy. The following source offers extensive evidence to prove this point.

    http://science.jrank.org/pages/10962/Race-Racism-in-Europe-French-Revolution-Nation.html

    Replies: @Anon7

    I’m of English and Danish stock myself – those other European whites sound disgusting! And yet, the Danes came over in the latter portion of the 19th century – and DESTROYED AMERICA!

    Well, actually they built tidy little communities and towns, full of industrious people who were, well, nice.

    And those Germans – they DESTROYED AMERICA!

    Well, actually they also built tidy little communities and towns, full of industrious people who were, well, nice.

    And those Scandinavians (in addition to Danes) – DESTROYED… well, they built lots of nice towns in Minnesota and Wisconsin, but they’re too nice, maybe.

    The French built tidy little towns like Montreal, the Dutch built tidy towns like those in New York state, so who am I leaving out?

    Okay the rest of the Europeans – trash! No wait, the Poles came to Michigan and built Hamtramck, a tidy little town full of industrious people who were nice – and then turned it over to the Muslims! Who knew that would happen.

    Southern Italians, below the Hajnal line, now they’re a bit beyond the pale (so to speak).

    Anyway, those white European people. You could build a new country in the wilderness with those people.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Anon7

    The "nice people" you say were not Heritage Americans. They have to go back.

    "Well, actually they built tidy little communities and towns, full of industrious people who were, well, nice."

    So, you're a Civic Nationalist. Magic dirt, it is!

    "and then turned it over to the Muslims!"

    Who are nice people.

    "Southern Italians, below the Hajnal line, now they’re a bit beyond the pale (so to speak)."

    According to Who/Whom?

    "Anyway, those white European people. You could build a new country in the wilderness with those people."

    Actually, you could build a new country in the wilderness with ANY people, European or non-European.

    Replies: @Anon7, @Technite78

  93. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Clifford Brown

    "the anti-capitalist revolution has not touched the Goldman Sachs headquarters"

    At this point, Goldman Sachs security is probably more effective than the broken NYPD. There is also the long history of financier-funded revolutions: moneymen do revolutions; revolutions are not done to them.

    "THIS SHIT IS STAGED"

    All the BLM stuff is false-flag. Blacks are very cavalier in regard to the health and well-being of their own people while being incredibly narcissistic individually. And it is beyond doubt that white progressives view blacks as prisms through which their virtues will be illuminated. An asteroid can solve the problems that plague us though the various manufactured plague bio-weapons will probably survive the environmental catastrophe the asteroid will inflict.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    There is also the long history of financier-funded revolutions: moneymen do revolutions; revolutions are not done to them.

    This is why the Wawelberg ,Imperial era Jewish banking dynasty along with Boris Abramovich Kamenka’s Azov-Don bank, still bestride the world like colossi.

  94. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clifford Brown
    @Anonymous

    Fjallraven is a Scandivian hiking brand. Their backpacks have become ubiquitous in recent years. I am a fan of their hiking pants which are decidedly unfashionable, but also virtually indestructible. When I watched the livestream of the looting of Soho, I took solace in the fact that they would not touch the Fjallraven store.

    I spoke with the manager of the store and it turns out that the looters did in fact break into the store, but basically did not take anything! Turns out utilitarian high end Scandinavian hiking gear is does not appeal to the looter demographic. Who could have guessed? I joked with the staff of the store that there the looters were likely not that into hiking. The staff being PC automatons brains froze and said “Well, we really don’t know if they like to hike or not.”

    What a world.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I spoke with the manager of the store and it turns out that the looters did in fact break into the store, but basically did not take anything!

    I would not be at all surprised to learn the Uniqlo shop unwent something similar.

    Turns out utilitarian high end Scandinavian hiking gear is does not appeal to the looter demographic.

    I suspect Uniqlo’s low-key, no-logo clothing holds even less appeal for the bling-conscious.

    In any case, thank you for telling me about Fjallraven. I will certainly bear them in mind should I ever find myself in need of theft-deterring hiking gear.

    (Rather a shame about the shop staff. When you mentioned the brand was Scandinavian, I briefly entertained hopes the store was manned either by enormous, surly Swedes or fight-loving Finns who would be only too glad to engage with looters.)

  95. @Resistentialist
    New York City is really making a go of it. My mother’s apartment near Morningside Park is currently taped off by police from a shooting from early this morning. And checking the NY Post website, the tally is still going up.

    The place looks like a post-apocalyptic wasteland. The streets in that area are strewn with trash. Not to mention last week while driving through a pack of at least 30-40 dirt bikes and ATV’s came driving past on the wrong side of the road.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Nicholas Stix, @BenKenobi, @Anonymous, @Ed

    NYC is staring at some dark days ahead

  96. @Clifford Brown
    @Technite78

    I in no way meant to discount the pending retail apocalypse. Urban America is in for a very rough ride over the next few years. Biden and the Democrats will likely offer some sort of massive bailout to Democratic Cities and States that have burned themselves to the ground in the name of The Revolution.

    I was presenting a single day snapshot of Manhattan one month after the looting. What I saw was less of an ongoing revolution than the aftermath of a fast moving forest fire that ripped through the City, but seems to have mostly dissipated. I could be wrong, but that is my take. Manhattan below Canal Street is largely unaffected outside of the Mayor sanctioned Freak Fest adjacent to City Hall. There is a staging area for the media with a picture perfect backdrop of the desecrated Surrogate Court meanwhile the rest of the City is largely unaffected. There are still many boarded up storefronts, but it is kind of amazing what just a little bit of concentrated push back can do against the forces of entropy. I was actually encouraged by my experience despite everything.

    It is shocking how many new buildings have started construction in the last three months. Shocking. I assume nothing is in the pipeline going forward, but Big Capital is finishing its current projects at a brisk pace.

    I unintentionally walked by the three Nike Stores in Manhattan all of which had been looted. Heavy set Black bouncer types now defend these stores 24/7. At least someone is economically benefitting from The Revolution. Brands that target a particular demographic were looted by said demographic. Hard not to take some solace in that. I am not much of a shopper, but the few stores that appeal to me in Soho (ie the Dork demographic) were up and running.

    I will say one thing, the next time the Democrats declare THE PURGE, I am going to hit up some of the high end art galleries. The art galleries in Soho these days are rather crass and decidedly middlebrow, but it is both hilarious and depressing to see street level art galleries featuring Warhols and Basquiat paintings behind untouched glass facades while the Visigoths from The Bronx ripped apart Nike Lab, SUPREME and assorted “streetwear" brand storefronts. What a bunch of morons. The real looting payoff in Manhattan are the West Chelsea art galleries, not the Nike Store. I walked by MOMA which would be the real mother load. While it has steel barricades, the building is inherently vulnerable due to its rambling multi-building design. I wonder if anyone has tried to walk off with a Jackson Pollack or two?

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Anonymous

    Who the heck would steal a Jackson Pollack painting? They’d take one look at it and throw it in a dumpster. And wow, Warhol and Basquiat? More garbage. Now I admire the tastes of the looters. At least you can wear shoes.

  97. @Wake up
    @Georgina Floyd

    Bob Gibson was a notorious nasty guy, filled with anger. If someone hit a home run off of him, the next time that batter was at the plate, Gibson would throw at him. I never understood why batters would take that bullying. Maybe if someone would have cracked Gibson’s head, he wouldn’t have done that again.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corvinus

    Gibson didn’t hit all that many batters relative to his number of wild pitches. He wasn’t a gentleman like Koufax (who didn’t hit a single batter in his last season while winning 27 games), but Gibson didn’t hit as many batsman as Don Drysdale, or the meanest of them all, Senator Jim Bunning.

  98. @Anon7
    @Corvinus

    I'm of English and Danish stock myself - those other European whites sound disgusting! And yet, the Danes came over in the latter portion of the 19th century - and DESTROYED AMERICA!

    Well, actually they built tidy little communities and towns, full of industrious people who were, well, nice.

    And those Germans - they DESTROYED AMERICA!

    Well, actually they also built tidy little communities and towns, full of industrious people who were, well, nice.

    And those Scandinavians (in addition to Danes) - DESTROYED... well, they built lots of nice towns in Minnesota and Wisconsin, but they're too nice, maybe.

    The French built tidy little towns like Montreal, the Dutch built tidy towns like those in New York state, so who am I leaving out?

    Okay the rest of the Europeans - trash! No wait, the Poles came to Michigan and built Hamtramck, a tidy little town full of industrious people who were nice - and then turned it over to the Muslims! Who knew that would happen.

    Southern Italians, below the Hajnal line, now they're a bit beyond the pale (so to speak).

    Anyway, those white European people. You could build a new country in the wilderness with those people.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    The “nice people” you say were not Heritage Americans. They have to go back.

    “Well, actually they built tidy little communities and towns, full of industrious people who were, well, nice.”

    So, you’re a Civic Nationalist. Magic dirt, it is!

    “and then turned it over to the Muslims!”

    Who are nice people.

    “Southern Italians, below the Hajnal line, now they’re a bit beyond the pale (so to speak).”

    According to Who/Whom?

    “Anyway, those white European people. You could build a new country in the wilderness with those people.”

    Actually, you could build a new country in the wilderness with ANY people, European or non-European.

    • Replies: @Anon7
    @Corvinus

    Yes, this is exactly right! My only problem with your analysis is that you can’t back it up with mathematical models, which as you know are how we know everything. Covid19 will kill 2-3,000,000 people, the oceans will rise 7-9 feet and the poles will melt - we know so much thanks to models!

    Anyway, the good people at CenturyInitiative.ca show - with models! - how excess population from anywhere will turn pathetic Canada into an economic powerhouse. The same technique will be used on us, I mean, made available to us here in the troubled USofA.

    , @Technite78
    @Corvinus

    Somehow you are able to ignore simple evidence (say, a listing of nations ordered by GDP, or cities in the US ordered by murder rate), avoid the obvious conclusions, and continue to push images of unicorns that defecate glitter.

  99. @Wake up
    @Georgina Floyd

    Bob Gibson was a notorious nasty guy, filled with anger. If someone hit a home run off of him, the next time that batter was at the plate, Gibson would throw at him. I never understood why batters would take that bullying. Maybe if someone would have cracked Gibson’s head, he wouldn’t have done that again.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corvinus

    https://www.baseball-fever.com/forum/general-baseball/history-of-the-game/91008-bob-gibson-s-personality

    I read Gibson’s autobiography. Great read, I recommend it. He said he had to have a certain level of intensity/personality to play his best. It wasn’t just all McCarver, when Gibson went to All-Star games he wouldn’t speak to or acknowledge his “teammates” because they were still the enemy. And in one incident cited by Joe Torre, who became one of Gibby’s closest friends and caught him one time in an All-Star Game, he deliberately refused to throw what Torre called because he didn’t want Torre to see his stuff that close up because it might give him an edge batting against Gibson in real games.

    And the only times he really threw at people with the intent to hit them and not to send them a message was when a batter would dive across the plate to try to hit the outside strike, his philosophy was that was his spot, his bread and butter, and batters didn’t have a right to hit that pitch, he said they could have the middle of the plate and the inside part of the plate if he missed, but not the outside strike. Which would leave him in a world of hurt today. He also whined somewhat about how the persona has followed him around after his playing days, and why don’t people understand it was just something he felt he needed to do to excel. Which to me shows a certain naivete on his part. You can’t don that persona to that extent and not expect it to remain attached to you permanently.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Corvinus

    Gibson was and is a nasty guy. I long ago concluded it was due to racism on his part.

    Tim McCarver once told a story, in which the players on the respective All-Star teams (in 1972) were invited to the White House by President Nixon. Gibson told McCarver he wasn’t going, to which McCarver said, “But that’s the President!” McCarver: “Bob said, ‘I don't give a damn.’”

    This year, Gibson re-told his side of the story to DNC propagandist Mike Lupica. According to Gibson, he was on line to shake the president’s hand, and got off the line, deciding that he was being “used” politically. He then got on the bus, where Jackie Robinson was already sitting, having done the same thing (after having used the GOP to his political advantage for years). Gibson found that Robinson’s thinking was identical to his own.

    https://www.mlb.com/news/bob-gibson-on-race-baseball

    Here’s the backstory: Jackie Robinson was an obsessive racist, so much so that he cut off his friend, Roy Campanella, because Campy wouldn’t go along with Robinson’s hatred of whites (“racism”). A film clip of the late Campanella was shown telling the story in the Burns Gang’s mini-series, Jackie Robinson.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @David In TN

  100. @szopen
    @Steve Sailer

    One right-wing Polish journalist once commented that fireworks are pretty much the thing of poor guys with low time preference. Wondering at the marvelous fireworks one night he wrote that those poor families just burnt several weeks of meals, just for fun. Seems it's same in America?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Barnard, @Polynikes

    Adam Carolla has a comedic device called Rich man/poor man. Driving old cars is an example. Poor people do it out of necessity; rich people fix them up and drive them for fun.

    Fireworks were this weeks entry. Lots of poor people wasting money on them. Of course the lake I spent the weekend on has about a million dollar entry fee for homes and fireworks were in abundance and one home put on a private show that would match some small towns’ displays.

  101. @Corvinus
    @Anon7

    The "nice people" you say were not Heritage Americans. They have to go back.

    "Well, actually they built tidy little communities and towns, full of industrious people who were, well, nice."

    So, you're a Civic Nationalist. Magic dirt, it is!

    "and then turned it over to the Muslims!"

    Who are nice people.

    "Southern Italians, below the Hajnal line, now they’re a bit beyond the pale (so to speak)."

    According to Who/Whom?

    "Anyway, those white European people. You could build a new country in the wilderness with those people."

    Actually, you could build a new country in the wilderness with ANY people, European or non-European.

    Replies: @Anon7, @Technite78

    Yes, this is exactly right! My only problem with your analysis is that you can’t back it up with mathematical models, which as you know are how we know everything. Covid19 will kill 2-3,000,000 people, the oceans will rise 7-9 feet and the poles will melt – we know so much thanks to models!

    Anyway, the good people at CenturyInitiative.ca show – with models! – how excess population from anywhere will turn pathetic Canada into an economic powerhouse. The same technique will be used on us, I mean, made available to us here in the troubled USofA.

  102. @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    "Mexicans are going stir crazy, so they shot off a lot of fireworks."

    Replace "Mexicans" with "Americans", and you would be accurate. My neighborhood and the surrounding neighborhood was like a war zone. The streets and fields were littered with spent shells and bottle rockets. Some White kid a few blocks down had to go to the emergency room. A firecracker exploded in his hand. He's nine.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    The streets and fields were littered with spent shells and bottle rockets.

    Really? Spent shells littering the streets and fields. Where do you live? Falujah?

    This sort of thing is why everybody thinks you’re full of shit.

  103. @stillCARealist
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Dude, your facebook friends are indicative of something, and that something is not good.

    I had to abandon facebook, except for family members, quite a while ago. I just couldn't take all the bragging, sobbing, politicking, emoting, tattoo-displaying, trivia-loving nonsense. Doesn't seeing all that trash disturb your peace and purpose? I think if you turn it off for a while you'll find your life improving. Maybe it's just me...

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    I had to abandon facebook, except for family members, quite a while ago.

    I’ve been putting people on 30-day hiatus, and/or then turning off their feeds for quite a while now.

    But as I’ve mentioned here before, I’m disconcerted by how many of my solid midwestern fiscally-sober Christian middle-aged friends simply cannot get enough of certain pop culture products, Hamilton foremost among them.

  104. Anonymous[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @Clifford Brown
    @Technite78

    I in no way meant to discount the pending retail apocalypse. Urban America is in for a very rough ride over the next few years. Biden and the Democrats will likely offer some sort of massive bailout to Democratic Cities and States that have burned themselves to the ground in the name of The Revolution.

    I was presenting a single day snapshot of Manhattan one month after the looting. What I saw was less of an ongoing revolution than the aftermath of a fast moving forest fire that ripped through the City, but seems to have mostly dissipated. I could be wrong, but that is my take. Manhattan below Canal Street is largely unaffected outside of the Mayor sanctioned Freak Fest adjacent to City Hall. There is a staging area for the media with a picture perfect backdrop of the desecrated Surrogate Court meanwhile the rest of the City is largely unaffected. There are still many boarded up storefronts, but it is kind of amazing what just a little bit of concentrated push back can do against the forces of entropy. I was actually encouraged by my experience despite everything.

    It is shocking how many new buildings have started construction in the last three months. Shocking. I assume nothing is in the pipeline going forward, but Big Capital is finishing its current projects at a brisk pace.

    I unintentionally walked by the three Nike Stores in Manhattan all of which had been looted. Heavy set Black bouncer types now defend these stores 24/7. At least someone is economically benefitting from The Revolution. Brands that target a particular demographic were looted by said demographic. Hard not to take some solace in that. I am not much of a shopper, but the few stores that appeal to me in Soho (ie the Dork demographic) were up and running.

    I will say one thing, the next time the Democrats declare THE PURGE, I am going to hit up some of the high end art galleries. The art galleries in Soho these days are rather crass and decidedly middlebrow, but it is both hilarious and depressing to see street level art galleries featuring Warhols and Basquiat paintings behind untouched glass facades while the Visigoths from The Bronx ripped apart Nike Lab, SUPREME and assorted “streetwear" brand storefronts. What a bunch of morons. The real looting payoff in Manhattan are the West Chelsea art galleries, not the Nike Store. I walked by MOMA which would be the real mother load. While it has steel barricades, the building is inherently vulnerable due to its rambling multi-building design. I wonder if anyone has tried to walk off with a Jackson Pollack or two?

    Replies: @stillCARealist, @Anonymous

    I in no way meant to discount the pending retail apocalypse.

    What do you foresee? Why?

    Urban America is in for a very rough ride over the next few years.

    What makes you think that?

  105. @Anonymous
    @anonymous

    One wonders how on earth did they survive - if this is their natural mode of life - before they were transported to America?
    The implication is that a population which habitually behaves like that would have 'burnt itself out' in that the normal level of viciousness would have effected extinction. Yet, evidently, this did not happen, and could not have been an evolutionary outcome.

    Replies: @Anon7, @Seneca44, @El Dato, @Gordo, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    One wonders how on earth did they survive – if this is their natural mode of life – before they were transported to America?

    Or after?

    I posted a wanted poster on a later thread that offered a reward of over $14,000 (in 2020 dollars) for the return of a group of these creatures.

    Mr Scaggs, who put them up, belonged in a mental institution. Why not just let them go, and hire white men? They cost more, but actually do the work.

  106. @Grumpy
    @Steve Sailer

    I get the impression that fireworks are safer than they used to be. There seem to be far more of them these days, but I hear less about horrific accidents than in the past. Is that the case?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I get the impression that fireworks are safer than they used to be. There seem to be far more of them these days, but I hear less about horrific accidents than in the past. Is that the case?

    As with shooting victims, it could just be better and faster medical treatment.

  107. Anonymous[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @kaganovitch
    @Anonymous

    New York City is so gentrified now that it is unlikely to see any significant or sustained increase in crime. And the Jews wouldn’t stand for a large increase anyways.

    It's unfortunate that the Jews only came into being in 1992. Had they existed earlier, we could have avoided the unpleasantness of the high crime era in NYC in the seventies and eighties.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    New York City is so gentrified now that it is unlikely to see any significant or sustained increase in crime. And the Jews wouldn’t stand for a large increase anyways.

    It’s unfortunate that the Jews only came into being in 1992. Had they existed earlier, we could have avoided the unpleasantness of the high crime era in NYC in the seventies and eighties.

    Jews are significantly more powerful now relative to other ethnic groups than they were in the 1970s, 1980s, even the 1990s.

  108. @Corvinus
    @Anon7

    The "nice people" you say were not Heritage Americans. They have to go back.

    "Well, actually they built tidy little communities and towns, full of industrious people who were, well, nice."

    So, you're a Civic Nationalist. Magic dirt, it is!

    "and then turned it over to the Muslims!"

    Who are nice people.

    "Southern Italians, below the Hajnal line, now they’re a bit beyond the pale (so to speak)."

    According to Who/Whom?

    "Anyway, those white European people. You could build a new country in the wilderness with those people."

    Actually, you could build a new country in the wilderness with ANY people, European or non-European.

    Replies: @Anon7, @Technite78

    Somehow you are able to ignore simple evidence (say, a listing of nations ordered by GDP, or cities in the US ordered by murder rate), avoid the obvious conclusions, and continue to push images of unicorns that defecate glitter.

  109. @Technite78
    @Clifford Brown

    Sorry, but false.

    My building in NoHo was entirely encased in plywood, which was quickly covered in graffiti. For two weeks straight, protesters walked through the neighborhood from City Hall to Washington Square and Union Square Parks... from mid afternoon through the early morning hours, shouting their slogans into megaphones.

    As of three weeks ago, there were a lot of boarded up storefronts throughout SoHo and Noho. Now? I don't know. I've bugged out to temporary digs while looking at real estate outside the purview of de Blasio and Cuomo.

    Prediction: the tax base of NYC is going to crater within a year.

    Replies: @Clifford Brown, @Jim Don Bob

    Prediction: the tax base of NYC is going to crater within a year.

    All levels of government below federal will/already suffer decreased revenue, and not only from people who have decided to GTFO out of urban areas, thus decreasing the tax base. Spending is down which means sales tax revenue is down. Income is down which means income tax revenue is down. Expect major tax hikes next year, and cries for federal bail outs.

  110. @Corvinus
    @Wake up

    https://www.baseball-fever.com/forum/general-baseball/history-of-the-game/91008-bob-gibson-s-personality


    I read Gibson's autobiography. Great read, I recommend it. He said he had to have a certain level of intensity/personality to play his best. It wasn't just all McCarver, when Gibson went to All-Star games he wouldn't speak to or acknowledge his "teammates" because they were still the enemy. And in one incident cited by Joe Torre, who became one of Gibby's closest friends and caught him one time in an All-Star Game, he deliberately refused to throw what Torre called because he didn't want Torre to see his stuff that close up because it might give him an edge batting against Gibson in real games.

    And the only times he really threw at people with the intent to hit them and not to send them a message was when a batter would dive across the plate to try to hit the outside strike, his philosophy was that was his spot, his bread and butter, and batters didn't have a right to hit that pitch, he said they could have the middle of the plate and the inside part of the plate if he missed, but not the outside strike. Which would leave him in a world of hurt today. He also whined somewhat about how the persona has followed him around after his playing days, and why don't people understand it was just something he felt he needed to do to excel. Which to me shows a certain naivete on his part. You can't don that persona to that extent and not expect it to remain attached to you permanently.
     

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    Gibson was and is a nasty guy. I long ago concluded it was due to racism on his part.

    Tim McCarver once told a story, in which the players on the respective All-Star teams (in 1972) were invited to the White House by President Nixon. Gibson told McCarver he wasn’t going, to which McCarver said, “But that’s the President!” McCarver: “Bob said, ‘I don’t give a damn.’”

    This year, Gibson re-told his side of the story to DNC propagandist Mike Lupica. According to Gibson, he was on line to shake the president’s hand, and got off the line, deciding that he was being “used” politically. He then got on the bus, where Jackie Robinson was already sitting, having done the same thing (after having used the GOP to his political advantage for years). Gibson found that Robinson’s thinking was identical to his own.

    https://www.mlb.com/news/bob-gibson-on-race-baseball

    Here’s the backstory: Jackie Robinson was an obsessive racist, so much so that he cut off his friend, Roy Campanella, because Campy wouldn’t go along with Robinson’s hatred of whites (“racism”). A film clip of the late Campanella was shown telling the story in the Burns Gang’s mini-series, Jackie Robinson.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Nicholas Stix

    Correction: According to Gibson, the occasion was in 1869, in honor of baseball's 100th anniversary.

    , @David In TN
    @Nicholas Stix

    I once saw Bob Gibson pitch. It was a Cardinal-Dodger game in July 1965 at the old Sportsman's Park or Busch Stadium as it was called. I have to tell you the story sometime.

    Around 1970, Bob Gibson explained why he was not "fan-friendly," saying "The fans don't pay my salary." Black athletes believe this. They think the owner, who signs the checks, pays them. Gibson and company don't conceptualize without paying customers and TV viewers there is no money.

    A while back I was reading some critical books about Bobby Kennedy. In 1960 Jackie Robinson campaigned for Hubert Humphrey in the Wisconsin primary. JFK's campaign manager brother Bobby told the press Robinson was "paid" to support Humphrey, which Robinson angrily denied.

    In the 1960 general election, Jackie Robinson backed Nixon. This caused Bobby to go into a tirade. From Ralph de Toledano's 1968 book "RFK":

    "Bobby appeared on the Barry Gray show, a radio 'talk' program, with a series of charges against Robinson. The trump cards were allegations that Robinson worked for a company with bad labor relations whose head was a Republican. The implications were obvious."

    Bobby Kennedy hinted he would give Jackie Robinson the Jimmy Hoffa treatment if JFK won. JFK is supposed to have told Bobby "We aren't running against Jackie Robinson."

    The episode has gone down the memory hole.

  111. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Beat me to it, Buzz. I think NYC should have a big clock, right under the big national debt clock there in Times Square, or wherever it is, with the numbers ticking off for COVID-one-niner vs. murders in New York. (Chicago can get its own damn clock.)

    People could root for one or the other, and there could be off-hospital betting. Even more importantly, some of our experts in Washington, FS, that tell us what to do, can use the data to decide each morning if we should have LOCKDOWN days or RIOT days. "Go Morningside Park! She's a mudder. Her muddah was a mudder."

    Replies: @Dr. Krieger, @Nicholas Stix

    “off-hospital betting.”

    Nice. OHB parlors?

    “Washington, FS”?

  112. @Nicholas Stix
    @Corvinus

    Gibson was and is a nasty guy. I long ago concluded it was due to racism on his part.

    Tim McCarver once told a story, in which the players on the respective All-Star teams (in 1972) were invited to the White House by President Nixon. Gibson told McCarver he wasn’t going, to which McCarver said, “But that’s the President!” McCarver: “Bob said, ‘I don't give a damn.’”

    This year, Gibson re-told his side of the story to DNC propagandist Mike Lupica. According to Gibson, he was on line to shake the president’s hand, and got off the line, deciding that he was being “used” politically. He then got on the bus, where Jackie Robinson was already sitting, having done the same thing (after having used the GOP to his political advantage for years). Gibson found that Robinson’s thinking was identical to his own.

    https://www.mlb.com/news/bob-gibson-on-race-baseball

    Here’s the backstory: Jackie Robinson was an obsessive racist, so much so that he cut off his friend, Roy Campanella, because Campy wouldn’t go along with Robinson’s hatred of whites (“racism”). A film clip of the late Campanella was shown telling the story in the Burns Gang’s mini-series, Jackie Robinson.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @David In TN

    Correction: According to Gibson, the occasion was in 1869, in honor of baseball’s 100th anniversary.

  113. @Nicholas Stix
    @Corvinus

    Gibson was and is a nasty guy. I long ago concluded it was due to racism on his part.

    Tim McCarver once told a story, in which the players on the respective All-Star teams (in 1972) were invited to the White House by President Nixon. Gibson told McCarver he wasn’t going, to which McCarver said, “But that’s the President!” McCarver: “Bob said, ‘I don't give a damn.’”

    This year, Gibson re-told his side of the story to DNC propagandist Mike Lupica. According to Gibson, he was on line to shake the president’s hand, and got off the line, deciding that he was being “used” politically. He then got on the bus, where Jackie Robinson was already sitting, having done the same thing (after having used the GOP to his political advantage for years). Gibson found that Robinson’s thinking was identical to his own.

    https://www.mlb.com/news/bob-gibson-on-race-baseball

    Here’s the backstory: Jackie Robinson was an obsessive racist, so much so that he cut off his friend, Roy Campanella, because Campy wouldn’t go along with Robinson’s hatred of whites (“racism”). A film clip of the late Campanella was shown telling the story in the Burns Gang’s mini-series, Jackie Robinson.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @David In TN

    I once saw Bob Gibson pitch. It was a Cardinal-Dodger game in July 1965 at the old Sportsman’s Park or Busch Stadium as it was called. I have to tell you the story sometime.

    Around 1970, Bob Gibson explained why he was not “fan-friendly,” saying “The fans don’t pay my salary.” Black athletes believe this. They think the owner, who signs the checks, pays them. Gibson and company don’t conceptualize without paying customers and TV viewers there is no money.

    A while back I was reading some critical books about Bobby Kennedy. In 1960 Jackie Robinson campaigned for Hubert Humphrey in the Wisconsin primary. JFK’s campaign manager brother Bobby told the press Robinson was “paid” to support Humphrey, which Robinson angrily denied.

    In the 1960 general election, Jackie Robinson backed Nixon. This caused Bobby to go into a tirade. From Ralph de Toledano’s 1968 book “RFK”:

    “Bobby appeared on the Barry Gray show, a radio ‘talk’ program, with a series of charges against Robinson. The trump cards were allegations that Robinson worked for a company with bad labor relations whose head was a Republican. The implications were obvious.”

    Bobby Kennedy hinted he would give Jackie Robinson the Jimmy Hoffa treatment if JFK won. JFK is supposed to have told Bobby “We aren’t running against Jackie Robinson.”

    The episode has gone down the memory hole.

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