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From the New York Times:

‘Hamilton,’ ‘The Simpsons’ and the Problem With Colorblind Casting

Animated shows are finally moving away from letting white actors play characters of color. But even well-intentioned efforts at increasing diversity create complications.

By Maya Phillips
July 8, 2020

Late June brought news that the animated shows “The Simpsons,” “Family Guy,” “Big Mouth” and “Central Park” would recast characters of color who have been played by white actors.

A week later “Hamilton” dominated the cultural chatter on Independence Day weekend when Disney+ premiered the film version of the Broadway phenomenon.

In both situations performers inhabited characters of racial backgrounds that were different from their own, often referred to as “colorblind casting.” …

Still, the difference between the two lies in their approaches to the all-encompassing nature of whiteness in American industries and narratives. Whereas the world of voice-acting for animation is just another dominated by white workers, casting a person of color as a typically white character is an act of subversion, a normalization of something other than the white standard. The Black and brown founding fathers of “Hamilton” make the story of America something that can finally be owned by people of color, as opposed to the reality, which so often refutes the relevancy of their lives and contributions.

Though egalitarian in theory, colorblind casting in practice is more often used to exclude performers of color. It’s a high-minded-sounding concept that producers and creators use to free themselves of any social responsibility they may feel toward representing a diverse set of performers.

The history of the practice in live-action takes is more egregious, and has been well-documented: Mickey Rooney’s notorious Asian landlord in “Breakfast at Tiffany’s”; Alec Guinness’s Arab prince in “Lawrence of Arabia”;

Perhaps my favorite supporting performance of all time:

Laurence Olivier in blackface as Othello. ..

It seems needless to say, and yet, here it is: Any casting of a performer in the role of a race other than their own assumes that the artist step into the lived experience of a person whose culture isn’t theirs, and so every choice made in that performance will inevitably be an approximation. It is an act of minstrelsy.

The fact that Ariel is white has nothing to do with her story about wanting to be with her love and walk on land.

Well, Ariel, the Little Mermaid is by Danesman Hans Christen Andersen.

The casting of a Black actress to play Hermione Granger in the play “Harry Potter and the Cursed Child” provoked howls from many fans, but the character’s whiteness never had any bearing on her brilliance. In fact, stories that do not take their characters’ whiteness as a given may find fresh relevance and invite new audiences into their sphere, because for so many people of color, they don’t get to see themselves represented in the media they consume.

But however well-intentioned, there are complications that come with works that aim to use colorblind casting to highlight people of color who wouldn’t otherwise be represented. Creators may cast blind, thinking their job done, failing to consider that a Black man cast as a criminal or a Latina woman cast as a saucy seductress — even when cast without any regard to their race — can still be problematic. One kind of blindness can lead to another.

And then there’s also the “Hamilton” problem. The show may place diverse bodies on the stage, but productions that would subvert a narrative traditionally owned by white characters must not just tag in actors of color but reconsider the fundamental way the new casting changes the story. In “Hamilton,” the revision of American history is dazzling and important, but it also neglects and negates the parts of the original story that don’t fit so nicely into this narrow model. The characters’ relationship to slavery, for example, is scarcely mentioned, because it would be incongruous with the triumphant recasting of our country’s first leaders. (The “Hamilton” star and creator Lin-Manuel Miranda responded to this criticism this week, calling it “valid.”)

 
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  1. ” Any casting of a performer in the role of a race other than their own assumes that the artist step into the lived experience of a person whose culture isn’t theirs, and so every choice made in that performance will inevitably be an approximation. It is an act of minstrelsy.”

    I have no doubt that you will get dozens of comments like this, but:

    This is the definition of acting: to step into the lived experience of a person whose culture isn’t theirs. The only way to avoid it is to perform an autobiography.

    joe

  2. “Big Mouth”

    Interesting fact: r/BanBigMouth was one of the subreddits selected for annihilation by the ADL last week. Why a Jewish organisation would want those who oppose this paedophilic rubbish censored, others can speculate

    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
    , @Altai
  3. Ghislaine Maxwell may have been a prolific Reddit poster.

    • Replies: @Altai
  4. Well knock me over with a feather:

  5. ….”as opposed to reality, which so often refutes the relevancy of their lives and contributions”.
    Maya Phillips, not Steve Sailer.

  6. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Muh gibs
    ..

    Thor was a proud black woc.

  7. So, it would be simply subversion if Scarlett was played by first black oscar-winning actress Hattie McDaniel, but ray-cism and cultural appropriation if GWTW is played in character or if Vivien Leigh played Mammy?

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    , @Jane Plain
  8. Altai says:

    Juneteenth musical is set have a meteoric rise on the back of it this. Hamilton has surely had the fastest transition from woke to problematic. And Lin Manuel Miranda (He even has pronouns in his bio) will fully cheer it on and be there opening night and be pointed out in the crowd.


    (The first 3 mins 40 seconds is him talking about his daughter trying to fly to Jamaica for her birthday and him having to remind her about the pandemic and stop her.)

    Hamilton was Anglo-American history told by black actors. The Juneteenth musical will take this a step further and take African-American history with an all black cast and get all of elite America to watch in a way they wouldn’t without it being a quasi spiritual sequel to Hamilton. A bit like those MCU films.

    The filmed version on Netflix will be shown to every schoolchild in America and sizable amounts in the rest of the Western world.

  9. Altai says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    There isn’t much evidence this is her. The account claims to be a 40 year old male and other than also being an environmentalist interested in the ocean and having very establishment views the only evidence provided is that the account was inactive during a party in 2011 that Ellen Pao claimed she was at as well as lots of other times over the last 14 years the account has been active. The fact that it has been inactive since 2 days prior to her arrest is more telling but again, hardly substantive. The name Maxwell is pretty common and given all the prominent Maxwell’s and things named after Maxwell, like Maxwell’s equations, it could be a reference or the name of a totally unrelated person. (It also begs the question of why somebody running influence and lying about their sex and age would use their real name.)

    But the bigger story is that one user produced 30% of the links to /r/worldnews and had clear censorship policies on /r/technology against Tesla. That’s huge influence and commitmant. And frankly sounds a lot more like something a 26 year old male would get into than a woman in her late 30s who has a lot more to occupy her time to get into. Let alone for her to keep it up into her 50s.

    Basically it was like the economist was running those subreddits given the content they pushed. (Basic neoliberal centrists stuff)

    It would be interesting to see if you put the texts into a gender predictor if the claimed male account is really female.

  10. ogunsiron says:

    “Colorblind” anything is of course a problem for the intersectionalists.
    They’re not building a world where color doesn’t matter.
    They’re building a world where color matters supremely in determining one’s place in the hierarchy.

  11. guest007 says:

    This has been going on since the 70’s: What’s mine is mine and what your’s need to be split with me.

    Remember how the University of Michigan argued that white students cannot learn to function in a multicultural world unless the number of black students matches the state’s demographics (Gratz v. Bollinger, 2003). But that is countered somehow because all of the HBCU are never questioned about their ability to educate black students for a multicultural future.

    If is seen is that is is acceptable to demand that some companies have to have diversity while black owned companies like the Magic Johnson Company not only are all black but basically all black female employees.

    • Replies: @Ma Laoshi
  12. The Black and brown founding fathers of “Hamilton” make the story of America something that can finally be owned by people of color, as opposed to the reality, which so often refutes the relevancy of their lives and contributions.

    Terrible writing aside, the idea that ‘Hamilton’ was going to make POCs more appreciative of the founders or ‘the story of America’ was always ridiculous.

    Jay-Z made an album called Magna Carta Holy Grail. I’d say it’s even money as to whether he even knows what those things are.

    • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
  13. Dumbo says:

    Ariel as described by Andersen:

    “They were six beautiful children; but the youngest was the prettiest of them all; her skin was as clear and delicate as a rose-leaf, and her eyes as blue as the deepest sea;”

    Ariel according to Hollywood:

    • LOL: Alden
  14. Dumbo says:

    Laurence Olivier in blackface as Othello.

    I know we’ll never see again an Othello played by a non-African, but Othello was not a subsaharan African, but likely an Arab or North African.

    Also, it can be seen as a parable against miscegenation, as darker males are shown as more jealous on flimsier grounds, more violent, more easily manipulated etc. (Iago is obviously a crypto Jew too). 😉

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @syonredux
  15. peterike says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    She writes “poetry” too. Sorry for this, but…

    Circe

    I magic myself a man: ta-da! and it’s done the deed the

    dirty the down-there down-home hello hoe is me a bit too

    witchy bitchy pussy a cooch like a clamp a clutch to turn

    a trick a dick sick hungry woman I take and take too much

    this miss mistress distrust me disgust me wanting woman

    wanton woman I a mouthing a tonguing an in-cheek kinda

    sly-slippery-snakebite of a woman bite of a woman who licks—

    sick, such a woman (not-wife) wily whet-thirst of a woman

    with wit tits cunt we don’t like that (a woman) the way

    she walks the hips the lips surely a trick an abracadabra ta-da

    ha! I hunger a husband (right?) I bite the beast and feast I beast-

    summoning woman beast-loving woman I make me a man

    a meal I snare I snake I hungry and I swallow whole

    • Replies: @Prester John
  16. @joeyjoejoe

    Culture yes, race not. A Swede can play a Russian peasant in “War and Peace”; an Italian woman cannot play the role of Harriet Tubman.

    Or she can…

    Or just take Yaphet Kotto in the Chairman Mao biopic.

  17. Jack D says:
    @joeyjoejoe

    Even worse that that, any attempt to posit a principled general rule, e.g. ” Actors must only play characters of their own race” immediately breaks down. Casting a black guy as Henry VI is not only permitted, it is praiseworthy.

    https://imgix.ranker.com/user_node_img/42/825575/original/david-oyelowo-photo-u10?w=650&q=60&fm=pjpg&fit=crop&crop=faces

    The real New Rule is “WHITE actors must only play characters of their own race but non-whites can play whites.” But you can’t quite come out and say that (just yet) so you need to blow a bunch of rhetorical smoke to obscure what the actual New Rule is and make it sound less explicitly anti-white. For example, you can say “An actor can only play roles in a culture in which he was immersed.” According to this rule, whites can never play blacks but since blacks are immersed in white majority culture it’s okay for them to play whites. This is what she tries in the article, but frankly it is very weak sauce, just a tissue thin cover for reverse racism.

    The New Rules really are just old Racist Rules turned on their head (in this and many other instances). In the racist past, whites could play Asians, Arabs, even blacks but Actors of Color could never be cast in white roles. Under the New Rules, whites can only play whites but Actors of Color can take any role . It’s really all who-whom. When whitey was in charge he made the up the rules to favor whites, now that PoC’s are in the ascendancy, the New Rules are going to favor them.

    MLK’s vision of a color-blind society is dead, dead, dead. If society is color blind, then it’s impossible to make up rules that favor Black people, who deserve to be favored in order to make up for 400 years of not being favored. Maybe 400 years from now the score will be even but for the next 4 centuries at least, we need to load the dice in favor of Blacks by having special rules just for them and other Peoples of Color.

  18. Abe says:
    @Jim Don Bob

    Wow, I think I’ve just found the perfect illustration for that Fragileishsa article I intend to start on Wikipedia. Let me guess- she’s “tired” and “exhausted” after scouring the DISNEY+ archives to come up with examples (HARYY POTTER, LIL’ MERMAID, HAMILTON, THE SIMPSONS) for such a mature, big girl article. If you see this woman do not, I repeat DO NOT, accept a request to cut her doll’s thinking she understands it does not grow back in 5 minutes.

  19. @joeyjoejoe

    C’mon guys, this is all gaslighting and you know it. Whites can’t play anything outside their own (non) culture, but blacks can do this:

  20. MEH 0910 says:

    Laurence Olivier in blackface as Othello. ..

    Maya should check out, in the National Lampoon October 1981 “Movies” issue, Double Date Comics – “Trouble in Dublin” (PDF):

    http://www.luckyfrogfarms.com/cook/NL/1980%27s/1981/1981_10.pdf

  21. Shorter New York Times: Non-white can play whites, but white may not play non-white.

    Shorter shorter New York Times: Non-white good, white bad.

  22. BB753 says:

    Since the White characters in the Simpsons are actually portrayed as deep yellow, who are they gonna cast for those?

  23. Anon[359] • Disclaimer says:

    The fact that Miranda, a Puerto Rican, is allowing himself to be pushed around by no account blacks, is ridiculous. He owes blacks nothing.

  24. Ano says:

    Hi Maya Phillips!

    I’m producing a film about Hitler’s black and brown Nazi soldiers!

    Can this story be ‘owned by people of color’?

    Would you like a role?

    • Replies: @anon
  25. MEH 0910 says:

    Punching Colorblind Casting Up vs. Punching Colorblind Casting Down.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  26. Pentheus says:

    “Characters of color”

    Uh huh

    BTW, is The Hulk a “character of color”? or a “white character of color”? What does he identify as?

  27. @Jack D

    I was just going to hit the I Agree with Jack D button again, but then,

    If society is color blind, then it’s impossible to make up rules that favor Black people, who deserve to be favored in order to make up for 400 years of not being favored.

    It’s not true that African Americans had 400 years of not being favored. After all, plantation owners did not favor Arabs or Eskimos by liberating them from their cousins who enslaved them to bring them to the fair fertile New World. It was African Americans and their descendants who benefited from this attention and who outperform, out-earn and outlive their slave trading cousins left behind in the Old World.

    “B-b-b-ut muh Middle Passage!”

    Meh. Middle Passage sailors had higher casualties than their cargo. After all, the sailors had to be paid and so were financial liabilities. The cargo would be paid for and so was a financial asset. If it weren’t for that Middle Passage, they would have been literal lunch for some pre-(or post-)Liberian warlord.

  28. Late June brought news that the animated shows “The Simpsons,” “Family Guy,” “Big Mouth” and “Central Park” would recast characters of color who have been played by white actors.

    Yes, I too felt that the voice actor who did Apu on The Simpsons had not stepped into the lived experience of an Indian running a Quicky Mart, and so every choice made in that performance was inevitably an approximation, an act of minstrelsy. One might even say cartoony. And don’t get me started on Foghorn Leghorn.

    • LOL: Charlotte
    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  29. @Kent Nationalist

    I find the show to be wryly amusing.

  30. I have noticed that home alarm system companies always use a white actor to play the part of a burglar in each of their commercials. Always that I can recall. Often a goofy looking guy with the traditional burglar mask used in old comics. Why are they discriminating against black and Latino actors? After all, those two groups definitely “punch above their weight” when it comes to home invasions. Not fair!

  31. @Almost Missouri

    Who gets to play trannies is what confuses me.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  32. And don’t get me started on Foghorn Leghorn.

    It’s Foghorn Livorno now.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  33. Alec Guinness’s Arab prince in “Lawrence of Arabia”

    The nerve of them casting someone with such a beery moniker!

    Why not Olivier? Olives are halal, after all.

  34. @joeyjoejoe

    Not only can a white man not play Othello, Shakespeare shouldn’t have written him either, as his writing a black character is an approximation, an act of minstrelsy.

    Thinking about it, so is Jane Austen writing Mr Darcy an approximation, an act of impersonation.

    No one must write anything but their own lived experience.

    Hang on, though. If Othello is a creation of minstrelsy, then a white man can play him in true minstrel style!

    (In the UK, the headstone, in a small country churchyard, of G.H. Elliott, “The Chocolate-Coloured Coon”, a music hall performer of the early/mid 20th Century, has just been removed by the Church Of Anywhere But England.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._H._Elliott )

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  35. Whiskey says: • Website

    NBC is firing its White employees to hire black ones.

  36. syonredux says:

    The Black and brown founding fathers of “Hamilton”

    Uppercase for “Black” but lowercase for “brown”…..Does that count as a microaggression?

    And Hapa actress Phillipa Soo played Eliza Hamilton in the televised Hamilton….


    Do Hapas count as “brown”?

    The history of the practice in live-action takes is more egregious, and has been well-documented: Mickey Rooney’s notorious Asian landlord in “Breakfast at Tiffany’s”; Alec Guinness’s Arab prince in “Lawrence of Arabia”;

    Not to mention Anthony Quinn as Auda Abu Tayi…..

    Does that count as “Whitewashing”? Quinn certainly has on a lot of dark makeup….Then there’s that fake nose….

    • Replies: @syonredux
    , @Hunsdon
  37. syonredux says:
    @syonredux

    And what about Peter O’Toole? Is it appropriate for a straight actor to play an LGBTQ character like T. E. Lawrence?

  38. Neuday says:

    Does this mean the Jews will stop playacting as White Americans? They sure seem to know nothing of our lived experience.

  39. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Please, that’s so condescending. I can’t even. Their name is Corno da Nebbia Livorno. Make sure you really roll those rrrs.

    • Replies: @Matttt
  40. How can a white man play,say,a talking fish? How can he step into the lived experience of a fish?

    • Replies: @Don't Look at Me
  41. Hunsdon says:
    @syonredux

    That was my absolute favorite role by Anthony Quinn. And the seen you posted, I am a river to my people, was one of my favorite scenes from the movie, as well.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
  42. Muggles says:

    John Wayne as Genghis Khan. Long time rumor is that the tried to buy up all of the copies after the initial run. Didn’t work.

    Of course all of this “cultural appropriation” is one sided and nonsense. Actors (and actresses, before that apt word was Memory Holed) are paid to act. Act as in being someone else doing what they are supposed to be doing (and directed to do so by others, specially skilled in that craft).

    Actors aren’t chosen because the are look-alikes to the characters being depicted. Sometimes yes, a resemblance, but often in film/TV/drama the characters were originally very different in the source materials (novels, short stories, fables, fairy tales, legends, historical records, etc.).

    So not only is the NYT piece stupid, it would if enforced by the Comrades, eliminate the entire art and craft of acting. No matter I suppose. The modern equivalent of the Red Detachment of Women.

    Perhaps “RuPaul Storms Normandy” soon.

    • Replies: @Prester John
  43. Mr. Anon says:
    @Hunsdon

    That was my absolute favorite role by Anthony Quinn. And the seen you posted, I am a river to my people, was one of my favorite scenes from the movie, as well.

    Indeed – it was a great performance. Quinn also had the funniest line in the movie. He was also great in The Guns of Navarone.

  44. Altai says:

    As I recall ‘Colour-blind cating’ was invented by Patrick Stewart so he could play Othello. Though he also invented race-bending as he deliberately balanced this by having all the other characters played by black actors.

  45. Thea says:
    @Hunsdon

    As a child Quinn befriended Amy Semple McPherson as she visited and prayed for his ailing mother. She asked him to be her interpreter as she traveled around street preaching in LA. He said she inspired how he performed Zorro and that she could command a room like no one else he had ever met.

    This is not an endorsement of female preachers or Pentecostalism, just an interesting note

  46. Altai says:
    @Kent Nationalist

    Ironically the race of the character in Big Mouth wasn’t supposed to be important. They just did it to make the cast of characters more racially diverse. They wrote her the same as a middle class white girl, which for a half-white half-asian character in middle class America, is about right.

  47. Here is a suggestion. When my children were little and then my grand children, I used to make up epic adventures with a cast of small heroes and pets that strongly resembled them. They loved them. They still call each other the nick names from the stories. Advice to parents of all races: Raise your own children!

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  48. ogunsiron says:
    @Almost Missouri

    Their proposals are always intersectionally correct.

    One of the main features of the intersectional order is that “richly intersected” people “get the stuff” of the intersectionally inferior and there is no vice versa.

    People high on the intersectional scale get to “take” the neighborhoods, the jobs, the history, the country, the bodies and the property of inferiors in general. The inferiors don’t get to take anything from the superiors and they don’t “get to” resist their stuff being taken.

  49. Mr. Anon says:

    Perhaps my favorite supporting performance of all time:

    That was indeed a great performance. I don’t think that Guinness’s co-star in the movie, Omar Shariff, who was an arab, was in any way offended by an Englishman being cast for that role. Shariff himself often played Europeans.

    If Whites are now forever to be banned from playing non-white characters, can we finally expect that Blacks will cease to be cast in performances of Shakespeare or in historical dramas set in pre 21st century Europe?

    • Replies: @Don't Look at Me
  50. anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @joeyjoejoe

    This is the definition of acting: to step into the lived experience of a person whose culture isn’t theirs. The only way to avoid it is to perform an autobiography.

    No. Acting is behaving truthfully in imaginary circumstances. If an actor can’t do that, you’ll witness an act of minstrelsy. A base “spectacle” of “truth.”

    See: Amos and Andy, and… Hamilton

    Democrats have never been able to let go of their old timey feudal lord ways. It’s like they’re genetically predisposed to lording over their lessers, somehow, some way. They’ll create a new “pecking order” that eases their inner fear, and spark that “joy” they’re always looking for that depends on them holding court over the darkies, while professing to love them.

    What man who’s worth anything doesn’t love his dog? Good men have no choice but to lovingly serve the beast who cries when his master arrives home from big adventures unknown.

    And too many black folks love to cowtow to their “betters” for coin, like a dog anticipating a scrap of meat from it’s master’s pocket. It’s a great relationship between a man and dog. A perverse and sick relationship between men.

    If you subconsciously believe you’re the better of black people, you’ll find a way to make that plain. That’s something democrats can’t admit, as well as the de facto enfeebled blacks who whore themselves out to them. For coin in their pockets, or a pat on the head.

  51. @Hunsdon

    “my absolute favorite role by Anthony Quinn”

    My absolute favorite character in Lawrence of Arabia (1962).

  52. Anonymous[223] • Disclaimer says:

    So, blacks can play white founding fathers as funky pops but whites can’t play those roles.

  53. anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ano

    Nazi’s of Color, NOC, lol. Maybe the Nation of Islam could provide funding support?

  54. @Buffalo Joe

    “Advice to parents of all races: Raise your own children!”

    It takes a village to do that; and you, whitey, will do the work of paying for the raising of the children of colour. And when you’re an old whitey one of these children will grow into a teen of colour and punch you in the back of your racist head.

  55. Thea says:
    @Almost Missouri

    But also race is a social construct and doesn’t matter…it gets very confusing.

  56. Thea says:

    Actors just need to follow fauxahontus’ example. Soon every in Hollywood would be Native American.

  57. From the movie Camp, about a musical theater summer camp in upstate New York (Anna Kendrick’s first role and she’s hilarious).

    “What can I say? It’s color-blind casting.”

    *camera pans to black kids in costume*

    “IT’S FIDDLER ON THE ROOF.”

  58. anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEH 0910

    Punching Colorblind Casting Up vs. Punching Colorblind Casting Down.

    But to “punch down,” doesn’t everyone have to agree on the lower status party’s implicit wretchedness to begin with? Watch a black person playing the Elmer Fudd role. Same things that happen to Elmer happens too him. The Character is defined by broad exaggeration of stereotypical rural black behavior and mannerisms for comedic effect.

    Why is it funny? Why is it not?

    If it’s not, what about poor dumb white hillbillies? Is this funny, or should this cartoon be retired. I detect a little bit of malice for comedy’s sake.

    Speaking of which, poor white hillbillies invented “Rap,” which has since been culturally appropriated by black people. It was stolen from them. No acknowledgement from Ice Tea. Should their creative genius, and stolen creative license, in spite of their wretchedness, be made fun of?

  59. Tom Cruise playing Jack Reacher is an act of minstrelsy. The little shrimp cannot know what it is to live life as a tall, strong, physically imposing man.

  60. @YetAnotherAnon

    “No one must write anything but their own lived experience”

    This is the standard of younger writers: They will not write about anything they haven’t experienced on social media.

  61. Couldn’t help but notice that they are capitalizing black and not white in the article.

    What should we do about this?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  62. @Mr. Anon

    “If Whites are now forever to be banned from playing non-white characters, can we finally expect that Blacks will cease to be cast in performances of Shakespeare or in historical dramas set in pre 21st century Europe?”

    No.

  63. Speaking of casting, last week Olivia de Havilland turned 104, without fanfare. Around the time of her last birthday, the US Supreme Court dismissed her lawsuit over, well, casting. Or something. Her usual revenge is to outlive her costars– some by over 50 years– but this time the defendants were far younger.

    Golden Age Star Olivia de Havilland Turns 103! Loses Lawsuit over her Image

    Is she the oldest person to take a case to SCOTUS?

    As for others born in 1916, Kirk Douglas would have turned 104 in December, but only made it to February, children’s author Beverly Cleary celebrated in April, and theater critic Eric Bentley should in September.

    Britain’s Battle sweetheart Vera Lynn was born in 1917. We lost her last month:

    Vera Lynn, singer and British forces’ ‘sweetheart,’ dies aged 103

    “We’ll Meet Again”.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  64. @Don't Look at Me

    Couldn’t help but notice that they are capitalizing black and not white in the article.
    What should we do about this?

    Nothing. Other than to suggest they capitalize the Spanish word for “black”. After all, there is precedent:

    (Note the price!)

    Lower-case is correct, so we’re fine. If they want to kiss colored arse, that’s their business. Which shouldn’t be ours.

    Times Insider:
    Why We’re Capitalizing Black

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
  65. BenKenobi says:
    @Hunsdon

    I am a river to my people

    I enjoy saying this whenever I do something nice for a friend.

  66. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    I still prefer spurious familiarity with and verisimilitude of Western history to outright subversion, hostility, and destruction.

  67. @Reg Cæsar

    Don’t worry, they still capitalize “Jewish,” the only category of whites who Matter.

    “Jew,” of course, is a quasi-slur because it reduces an individual to a singular identity and denies their other human characteristics. “white” as a singular noun is fine though, because that singular identity is all that we need to be defined by for de-nigra-tion.

  68. MEH 0910 says:

  69. @Jim Don Bob

    The give away was the swoon over “The Wiz.”

  70. Matttt says:
    @Jack D

    “The casting of a Black actress to play Hermione Granger in the play ‘Harry Potter and the Cursed Child’ provoked howls from many fans, but the character’s whiteness never had any bearing on her brilliance.”

    This is like the marshmallow test, right? If you can read a statement like this and not snicker, roll your eyes, or chuckle, maybe you can get a job at the New York Times.

  71. ogunsiron says:
    @Jack D

    The real New Rule is “WHITE actors must only play characters of their own race but non-whites can play whites.” But you can’t quite come out and say that (just yet)

    The intersectoids do come out and say it often enough.

    Everything they propose derives from the principle that higher intersectoids enjoy privileges over the lower members of the (future) social hierarchy. They even advocate the ability for “bipocs” to have arbitrary access to the bodies of Whites. That’s what all their whining about “sexual racism” is about.

  72. “Alec Guinness’s Arab prince in ‘Lawrence of Arabia’.”

    Maya might consider doing a little, uh—Research?–before putting pen to paper so to speak? According to Wiki “he (Guinness) met several people who had known Faisal who actually mistook him for the late prince.” James Earl Jones, black, was an acclaimed “Othello”, though neither he nor Olivier were anymore “Moorish” than Guinness was an Arab.

    O.T. “Lawrence of Arabia” was a vehicle for O’Toole and it justifiably rocketed him into fame and fortune. Nevertheless, Guinness stole that movie IMHO and should have won a Best Supporting Actor. As it turns out he wasn’t even nominated. Sharif was nominated.

  73. @Muggles

    “…not only is the NYT piece stupid…” .

    No surprises. Remember who’s writing it.

  74. Charlotte says:
    @Jack D

    Our society is not going to survive 400 years of loading the dice. Perhaps it wouldn’t have anyway, but this will do it for sure.

  75. @peterike

    Behold! A veritable Emily Dickinson!

    “Ebony Emily”

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  76. Does it bother any of these nitwits that Bart Simpson–a ten-year-old boy–is voiced by a 62-year-old woman? Should they fire her and hire an actual ten-year-old boy? What about the voice actors who play literally dozens of characters of different ages and backgrounds? Should they be fired and replaced by 1-to-1 voice actors, like a Scotsman for Groundskeeper Willie? Oh, never mind.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  77. @Jim Don Bob

    I don’t like how she culturally appropriated eyeglasses, which weren’t invented in Sub-Saharan Africa.

  78. So, just what do these little dictators think of something like ‘Amos ‘n’ Andy’, a radio show written and performed by 2 Whites (Freeman Golden and Charles Correll) … which later became ‘The Amos ‘n’ Andy Show’ on television — where the leads were played by Alvin Childress and Spencer Williams — both Black.

    The show in both media was absolutely wonderful — and, if you can find old episodes to listen to or to watch, the humor and the situations still hold up in today’s world.

    A’n’A showed Blacks in a gentle light — entrepreneurs and successful folks — along with their share of shysters (like the rest of the world) and such … all in such incredibly good humor.

  79. Alden says:
    @Dumbo

    Othello has conversations with Desdemona before they marry. He tells her he’s Egyptian. he was captured and enslaved by the Turks as a boy. He and some Venetian Italian slaves escaped and Othello went home to Venice with them, joined the navy and became an admiral.

    It’s a true story. A Venetian admiral did strangle his wife because he thought she was unfaithful. The admiral was Venetian. Plenty of Italian and other S Europeans were enslaved by the Turks. Many escaped or were ransomed and went back to Europe.

    Captain John Smith Pocahontas’ friend was one of them.

  80. martin_2 says:

    Laurence Olivier’s “Othello” was apparently a masterpiece of Shakespearean acting, so I was told.

  81. Any casting of a performer in the role of a race other than their own assumes that the artist step into the lived experience of a person whose culture isn’t theirs, and so every choice made in that performance will inevitably be an approximation.

    They manage to succeed in this endeavor through a remarkable talent called acting.

  82. @Harry Baldwin

    Nobody’s mentioned Groundskeeper Willy: whoever voiced him should be executed for crimes against the Orkney brogue.

    It stands to reason that in future he must be voiced by someone from Kirkwall – or at least from inside the parish boundary of St Ola.

    And don’t get me started on ‘Dr’ Zoidberg.

  83. Ma Laoshi says:
    @guest007

    Yes, but why think so small. The lack of diversity that’s killing us is jewish dominance, amounting to hegemony, among: the faculty of the postmodern “critical” humanities departments, the Dept. of Justice and the judiciary, and media executives including Hollywood. I’m sure the list could be extended (Treasury anyone?), but you’ve got to start somewhere. Good luck raising this issue without facing Nazi accusations.

  84. @For what it's worth

    Apu on the Simpsons was voiced by Hank Azaria, who also invented the voices of Comic Book Guy, Carl Carlson, Cletus Spuckler, Professor Frink, Dr. Nick Riviera, Lou, Snake Jailbird, Kirk Van Houten, the Sea Captain, Superintendent Chalmers, Disco Stu, Duffman, and the Wiseguy. Harry Shearer does a large number of voices too.

    For sheer creative talent, the best animated comedy voice actors are about five standard deviations to the right of the mean.

    • Replies: @Crawfurdmuir
    , @Anon87
  85. syonredux says:
    @Dumbo

    I know we’ll never see again an Othello played by a non-African, but Othello was not a subsaharan African, but likely an Arab or North African.

    Dunno. The language in the play reads more on the Blackish side of things (e.g., Othello is called “the Thick-Lips” in one scene), particularly when you compare it to the similar language used for Aaron the Moor in Titus Andronicus.

    • Replies: @ogunsiron
  86. Michelle says:

    Little girls and (Transgender boys) won’t care if Ariel is played by a Black girl, as long as that Black girl is pretty. Kids are guilty of lookism. A princess has to be pretty!

  87. syonredux says:
    @MEH 0910

    Who gets to play trannies is what confuses me.

    Not Scarlett Johansson.

    Bit of a shame. Turning Scarlett into a decent male simulacrum would have been an impressive bit of makeup work…

  88. @Steve Sailer

    For sheer creative talent, the best animated comedy voice actors are about five standard deviations to the right of the mean.

    Mel Blanc died on July 10, 1989; Lawrence Olivier on the following day, July 11. At the time, the number of column inches devoted to Olivier’s obituaries was several times those given to Blanc’s, yet in terms of the number of people who had enjoyed their respective performances, Mel Blanc entertained far more, and in the long run, his will be the more widely remembered.

  89. Peterike says:

    Ok, I’ll say it. “Lawrence of Arabia” is an over long bore of a film.

    There. I said it.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  90. @Peterike

    The 3 hour version is better than the 4 hour version.

  91. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    The 3 hour version is better than the 4 hour version.

    Either way, you haven’t really seen it unless you’ve seen it at the Cinerama Dome in 70MM.

    Thank ps to that format, Shariff’s approach on a camel is a particularly memorable scene.

  92. The Black and brown founding fathers of “Hamilton” make the story of America something that can finally be owned by people of color, as opposed to the reality, which so often refutes the relevancy of their lives and contributions.

    She meant “rejects”. Ironically, “refutes” is more correct, which, as Steve has pointed out, is largely what this whole thing is all about.

  93. @Reg Cæsar

    Olivia de Havilland, Melanie in Gone With the Wind, won a huge case in the California Supreme Court something like 77 years ago in which she defeated the Hollywood movie studios and had their unfair standard contract for actors thrown out. David Niven said this tiny woman was the bravest movie star in Hollywood.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  94. @Don't Look at Me

    LOL! Yep,I remember seeing that in the theatre as a mere child. It was very good,but also maybe transgressive? Problematic? Was Mr. Limpet gay? A trans?

  95. @Steve Sailer

    Her latest suit dealt with how she was portrayed in a biopic about the feud between Bette Davis and Joan Crawford. But she and her sister Joan Fontaine had their own going, and didn’t speak for decades.

  96. Anon87 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Azaria makes a fortune too. So when they have to hire race/gender appropriate voice actors for every role, will it be easier to just not write characters outside of your main cast demographics (uh oh, not diverse enough!!) or have a huge cast mostly doing just one voice a piece (uh uh, salary inequity!!)?

    I’m sure it’s been said, but does Bart also need to be voiced by a man?

  97. ogunsiron says:
    @syonredux

    The English of that time knew of both “Moors” and “Blackamoors”, right? Do we know what kind of Moor Othello is supposed to have been?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  98. @ogunsiron

    I read Othello closely about 20 years ago and scored the 10 or so references to the title character’s racial attributes as 80% suggesting black, 20% suggesting North African.

    • Replies: @ogunsiron
  99. @Prester John

    We laugh, but I’m sensing a Pulitzer or even a Nobel in her future.

  100. ogunsiron says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Interesting. That pretty much settles it for me that Othello is a sub-saharan african and not just a generic swarthy man from south of the mediterranean.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  101. @ogunsiron

    Medieval people tended to think of racial diversity as clinal: the further you go in a particular direction the more people look different. Enlightenment people tended to think of races as discrete groups with big oceans or deserts in between.

    Shakespeare was a (late) renaissance man and his views were in between.

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