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Hail to You offers a deep dive into the obscure life of Robin DiAngelo, who, after she turned 60 in 2016, became one of the highest paid public intellectuals of our day due to her 2018 book White Fragility.

Little is known about the life of DiAngelo before she graduated from the U. of Seattle when she was evidently 34 in 1991. But between her own statements and those of her husband, who publishes a garrulous, rather likable blog about his life, she appears to have grown up in a Catholic blue-collar broken home on the edge of poverty. She may have spent her 20s doing the hippie travel thing. At some point in the early 1990s, she got hired by the state of Washington to train government employees in diversity awareness or whatever the jargon was back then. She was very shocked that some white employees spoke back to her unsububmissively and even complained — out loud — about affirmative action.

Meanwhile, she appears to have been a lesbian in the 1990s and a birthing coach and then in 2004 in her late 40s got married to a man, the ex-husband of one of her old birthing coach business clients. She appears to be high-strung and her cheerful-sounding husband appears to be good for her mental health.

Over the next 13 years she earned a master’s and a doctorate in education from the U. of Washington. In 2007, in her early 50s, she got hired as a professor of education at Westfield State, which is somewhere or other. In 2011, she coined her zillion-dollar phrase “white fragility.” Basically, it’s her zinger to use on uppity trainees who give her any backtalk: That’s just your White Fragility talking.

“White fragility” is like George Constanza’s comeback “The Jerk Store called; they’re running out of you.”

Except, “white fragility” works!

As I wrote in 2018:

I imagine that if in 1692 in Salem, Ms. DiAngelo had been in the business of offering sermons on the Witch Menace, she would have similarly encountered “witch fragility” as various people objected to pleading guilty to “systemic whitchness” and then crying their “witch tears.”

And finally in 2018 she published her book. It’s currently #2 on the overall NYT Bestseller Lis t.

Now it could be that she’s hiding all sorts of exciting secrets about herself. For example, maybe she’s younger than she says she is?

But if we take her at her word that she will turn 64 in September, what strikes me about this outline of her life is how boring and depressing her career has been until her very recently getting rich and honored. To call her an “academic,” for instance, gives the wrong impression because she’s from the prole depths of the most lowbrow academia. She sounds like a character out of a Raymond Carver short story about semi-impoverished creative writing instructors at Directional State U. in the middle of nowhere.

In contrast, compare the career of well-paid gender theorist Judith Butler, who was born the same year as DiAngelo. Butler is famous/notorious for an opaque prose style that is catnip to grad students while impenetrable to civilians:

Butler attended Bennington College before transferring to Yale University, where she studied philosophy, receiving her Bachelor of Arts degree in 1978 and her Doctor of Philosophy degree in 1984.[13] She spent one academic year at Heidelberg University as a Fulbright Scholar.[14] She taught at Wesleyan University, George Washington University, and Johns Hopkins University before joining University of California, Berkeley, in 1993.[15] In 2002 she held the Spinoza Chair of Philosophy at the University of Amsterdam.[16] In addition, she joined the department of English and Comparative Literature at Columbia University as Wun Tsun Tam Mellon Visiting Professor of the Humanities in the spring semesters of 2012, 2013 and 2014 with the option of remaining as full-time faculty.[17][18][19][20]

It sounds like being Judith Butler was, until recently, much more fun than being Robin DiAngelo: e.g., nobody asked poor Robin DiAngelo to jet off to Amsterdam to hold the “Spinoza Chair of Philosophy.”

DiAngelo, in contrast to Butler, appears to have spent years training pink collar office workers in boring diversity sessions. She gives me the impression of being a 110 IQ person who has, over grinding years of delivering boring workshops on diversity, learned how to manipulate the emotions of 100 IQ women.

Hail’s theory is that DiAngelo is basically a blue-collar prole by upbringing who has always resented the kind of white-collar office workers she is paid to harangue.

None of this has much to do with black people. Eventually, her black competitors in the diversity racket will likely figure out a way to get her canceled so they can feast on her fees. But until then the money is good, finally.

 
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  1. the prole depths of the most lowbrow academia

    LOL.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @International Jew

    Yeah, that was pretty good.

    , @JimDandy
    @International Jew

    And the elite heights of the today's highest-brow academia.

    , @Anonymous
    @International Jew

    We need to quit using the term “prole“. It plays into a bad worldview.

  2. Sounds as if she was raised by a single mother who was Italian-Catholic, but Dad or Step-Dad figure was Jewish, and hence the kibbutz.

    She spent her youth wandering around and sleeping with many, many men, trying to “find herself”, tried the lesbian-earth mother route, then married up another woman’s beta-male gap-grinning left-wing husband and tried to make her career #1, all the while inside missing and despairing over the children she never had (and likely murdered in the womb).

    And so, when she got truly miserable, she blamed white people. Which made her millions.

    All in all, she sounds like a cliched story about a half-Jewish hippie-academic feminist.

    P.S. Springfield, MA IS really a down-and-out, crime-riddled, diversity-infused city in Mass, which surprises even Massholes who live closer to Boston (about 2-3 hours east). You’d be surprised how many “ethnic non-white” drug gangs get arrested out of there. Must be a popular stop between NYC and the Canadian border for drug traffickers.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    Was her father a Jewish construction worker who married a Catholic telephone operator? Maybe, but probably not.

    Working on a kibbutz for a little while was a thing in the 1970s. I had a Protestant friend who did it for six weeks or so in 1980.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Solomon the Fish, @James O'Meara

  3. Steve, I think the lockdown’s enspice-ificating your prose style. You haven’t put out this kind of high-end snark in a while. I especially enjoyed ‘Westfield State, which is somewhere or other’.

    BTW, I work in higher ed, actively keep up with higher ed in the USA, have just gone through two years of doing college admissions stuff for Daughter C — and I’d never come across the name ‘Westfield State’. I wish its students and alumni well. I know what it’s like to be graduated from an institution whose name sounds like a google maps glitch.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Agreed: this was a fun piece, however brief.


    She gives me the impression of being a 110 IQ person who has, over grinding years of delivering boring workshops on diversity, learned how to manipulate the emotions of 100 IQ women.
     
    It strikes me that to some degree this constitutes the remit of the mass media.
    , @Ganderson
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    Westfield State is known for teacher training and cop training. The MA state schools are the poor cousins around here- what with the high end universities like Harvard and the other ivies, the high end D III schools like Amherst and Williams. , and, of course UMASS. If you want to be a teacher, why pay premium freight- Go to Westfield, or Worcester State, or Salem State.

  4. Anonymous[371] • Disclaimer says:

    Related: Twitter is noticing the unmistakable pattern of woke chicks of color mating with white guys.

    They are meming the usual suspects from The Squad etc.

    https://www.revolver.news/2020/07/woke-women-dating-white-men/

    But foxnews has a pic up of Obama flunky Susan Rice next to a pic of her son and he’s … wait for it … a white guy.

    HAHAHAHAHA

    It’s a good article by foxnews standards and Rice sounds like a flag waving Reaganite by the end of a long explanation of relating to her conservative (white) son.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/susan-rice-trump-supporting-son

    • Agree: R.G. Camara
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Anonymous

    Of course they're cheerleading for Susan Rice. Her husband is Ian Cameron, the head producer at ABC News. She's part of the left-wing corporate media family!

    , @Kent Nationalist
    @Anonymous

    Their anti-whiteness is because they love white men but hate the competition (white women).

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Anonymous


    Related: Twitter is noticing the unmistakable pattern of woke chicks of color mating with white guys.

     

    Indeed:

    https://twitter.com/Juche_Gamer/status/1290996626975330304?s=20

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    , @Steve in Greensboro
    @Anonymous

    Hypergamy is only a surprise to people who haven't been paying attention.

  5. Interestingly no comment in here about her publisher Beacon Press, which is owned by the Unitarian Universalist Association. Beacon previously most famously published the Pentagon Papers in 1971. The terminology of “white supremacy” etc swept through the UUA denomination pretty quickly, a few years ahead of George Floyd, with various “open letters”, denunciation of heretics, etc such that it’s almost become a new religion of anti-racism. A far cry from the Brahmin religion of, say, Nixon and Ford cabinet member Elliott Richardson 50 years earlier.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Anon55uu

    Yours is a significant comment, and it relates to what I wrote later, namely, who is promoting this crap.

    , @duncsbaby
    @Anon55uu

    My dad was a Universalist. He was born and raised in New England during the depression from a lower middle class Republican household. He was a pretty conservative guy all his life. Career military and anti-abortion. Theologically though it was whole 'nother ball of wax; he once related to me when I was a young adult that he never believed in God. He specifically didn't believe Jesus was anymore a deity than any other man. He was definitely a moral conservative though; anti- gay, pro-family and like I said previously, pro-life. What I'm trying to say in my long-winded way is that at one time there were a lot of Unitarians & Universalists in New England who might've been complete squishes when it came to Christianity but were still conservative Republicans. Pop died in May of 2009 and I remember asking him after Obama was elected in 2008 what he thought of there being a black president, his response was to give the classic "pfft" expression - he wasn't impressed.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @Paco Wové
    @Anon55uu

    Interesting. This explains the alarmingly loony turn I see in my Facebook feed from middle-aged women (who were much saner back when I knew them as high-school girls).

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @Anon55uu

    Moreover: publishers of many a later Frankfurters, such as Habermas and Marcuse, then the nuttier feminists like Mary Daly. Who says mainline WASPS ain’t hep?

    , @SolontoCroesus
    @Anon55uu

    Head of UUism is Rev Susan Frederick-Grey
    https://www.uua.org/uuagovernance/officers/president


    Susan brings a strong focus on mission and strategic planning to her leadership at the UUA as it works to dismantle systems of white supremacy.

    https://i.postimg.cc/8CCY1srT/Rev-Susan-Frederick-Grey-head-of-UUs.png
    . . .
    She has represented the UUA in the 2017 Charlottesville protests against white nationalist violence, has worked in conjunction with the Poor Peoples Campaign on issues of poverty, witnessed at the US-Mexico border for immigrant justice, and partnered with local advocates to expand voting rights in Florida. In addition to her regular column in UU World, Susan has written for Vice, Sojourners and numerous local papers.

    Prior to her election, she served as Lead Minister of the Unitarian Universalist Congregation of Phoenix, Arizona where she was a national voice for immigrant rights. Susan played a critical role in the long-term campaign to end the constitutional violations of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
     
    Frederick-Grey is married to a male, also a minister in Protestant denomination/s; they and teen age son live in Mass.

    Rev. Susan's CV says "her roots are in Eliot Chapel (UU) in St. Louis, MO" and Harvard Divinity.

    The current pastor at Eliot Chapel is Rev Barbara Gadon
    http://www.eliotchapel.org/staff

    "Rev. Gadon earned her Bachelor of Arts degree in Linguistics from the University of Minnesota, with a focus on writing and feminist studies."
     
    Apparently Rev Barbara also expresses herself through fine art:
    https://fineartamerica.com/profiles/barbara-gadon
    https://i.postimg.cc/8C9g9LX2/Barbara-Gadon-art.png

    Gadon's colleague at Eliot Chapel is Krista Taves, dual citizen of Canada & USA.
    http://www.eliotchapel.org/staff
    From a farming background, Taves and her partner are turning a plot of land into a native plants sanctuary.

    "Her social justice passions are racial, reproductive, and environmental justice."
     
    Based on a post on her blog, https://kristataves.wordpress.com/2014/07/22/religious-terrorism-meets-religious-liberalism/ , reproductive justice ranks first: she labeled as "Religious Terrorism" an event in which anti-abortionists disrupted a Unitarian church service and even terrorized the children by pressing pictures against the windows.

    They hate clergy who are pro-choice. We drive them crazy because we use the same scriptures they do and pray to the same God. They take pictures of us . . . We get hate letters in the mail. It’s very intimidating. But heh, we aren’t the ones trying to get an abortion. So if just by standing there in a clergy collar, holding a sign that proclaims a love bigger than their hate, we drive the protesters a little crazy? Crazy enough to direct their venom at us? May it make one woman’s day just a bit easier.
     
    To protect the UU children from being terrorized by photos, presumably of fetuses being aborted, they were moved to a room with no windows.
    Love in action.
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Anon55uu

    "the Unitarian Universalist Association"

    Just out of the USCG I took a groundskeeping/maintenance position for a Unitarian church; lasted about a year and I still couldn't grasp what they were about. Sure, I was stoned most of the time but made an effort to understand their creed. After my year of fixing locks and smelling freshly mown lawn I decided they didn't have one. I did notice that the males tended to be mild and the females kind of creepy.

    , @Kronos
    @Anon55uu

    Any idea if they make any serious money on woke books?

    Typically the phrase “go woke, go broke” seems generally true.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Dumbo
    @Anon55uu

    I had no idea about this "Unitarian" Universalist Church and after having briefly looked at it in Wikipedia, I am none the wiser. What exactly do they believe in? Do they perform mass? They don't even seem to believe in God or in Jesus. Maybe they now worship St. Floyd, or the Coronavirus?

    Replies: @anon, @Prosa123, @Uncle Jack

    , @Hibernian
    @Anon55uu

    Beacon Press in the immediate Post WW2 period published Paul Blanshard who then believed that Catholics shouldn't be elected to public office, even dogcatcher. This in New England in the mid 20th century. In 1960 he was for Kennedy; go figure.

  6. …figure out a way…

    Has she donated millions (and millions) of $ (if it has to be $, but Swiss Francs are preferred) to BLM Enterprises Incorporated?
    Has she knelt down and washed, no! kissed damn it!, the feet of a bunch of negroes in a photo op?
    Has she defunded her local police station with a Molotov cocktail?
    Has she liberated- with a Soros-funded brick- her local Nike store of the latest to-kill-for (literally) sports trainers?
    Has she used a police car for a mostly peaceful trampoline?
    Has she de-white-manned Mt Rushmore with dynamite?

    …but the real clincher is…

    Has she nominated Beyonce for all the Grammys?

    No?

    CANCELLED

  7. That’s just your White Fragility talking.

    White fragility = Fig with reality.

    Wun Tsun Tam Mellon Visiting Professor of the Humanities

    That sounds like a question you might get walking through the back alleys of Macau.

    Or from the desk clerk at one of the hostels in Chungking Mansions.

    Here is a later Wun Tsum Tam Mellon professor:

    Poet, Author and Professor Elizabeth Alexander Named to Pulitzer Prize Board
    BY GOODBLACKNEWS ON JUNE 1, 2016

    Evidently there is Good Black News.

    • Replies: @Captain Tripps
    @Reg Cæsar

    I saw "Wun Tsum Tam" and immediately thought "Wu Tang Clan".

    Replies: @captflee

  8. Anonymous[371] • Disclaimer says:

    So judging by the Wonderbread fever that certain high profile chicks of color are experiencing—– can we say that the antiwhite leftist programming by the Westfield State grad et al is …

    …making some dusky girls horny for Casper.

    …and they want some Polar Bear action.

    …and they won’t admit it but they crave Magilla Vanilla.

    WTF.

    Are these caramel carousers actually white supremacists?

    • Replies: @Pop Warner
    @Anonymous

    White men are still considered the most attractive, wealthy, and powerful men. Even with all of the anti white male propaganda white men are seen as the ones in charge. Authority and power are very attractive and women of all races are social climbers

    Also, woke women like AOC mostly grew up in middle class neighborhoods and hung out with white people. Outside of her family AOC probably doesn't interact with Puerto Ricans that much, spending her school years around other whites and living in gentrified neighborhoods before running for Congress.

  9. And who is selling Robin DiAngelo to the world, anyway?

    Behind every mediocrity who suddenly bursts upon us, there has to be some managing force. (No, I am not claiming to know who or what it is, or that it is even always the same.)

    Stacey Abrams is another good example of someone behind whom there has to be some kind of support and planning. Alexandria Ocasio-Whatever, the bartender from Westchester County is another one.

    None of these people accomplish anything on their own. They are packaged, marketed products.
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    • Agree: Kronos
    • LOL: Redneck farmer, Tusk
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Buzz Mohawk


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    Hah! I get it. For when the power goes out...............like in South Africa.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    , @guest007
    @Buzz Mohawk

    AOC's campaign managers, an Ivy graduate, was smart enough to understand that Crowley was representing a district that should not have been represented by a white male. AOC's campaign manager understood that winning a low turnout primary against a lazy incumbent was the best way to get someone knew into Congress. The opposite is Tlaib that won as the non-black candidate in a primary against multiple black candidate where a majority was not required.

    The upsets in the 2020 Democratic Primary season were repeat of the AOC strategy where upstarts understood that they could win against lazy incumbents in low turnout primaries.

    The same things happened in the 3rd District of Colorado where Lauren Boebert beat an incumbent Republican in an election done almost totally by mail.

    Of course, all of this information does not fit into a sound bite so no one watching cable news channels ever hears about it.

    , @Anon
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Managed product = Jordan Petersen, Eric Weinstein


    Jordan Peterson’s target market = wimpy but semi high IQ atheist white men that need to tidy up their rooms.

    Eric Weinstein’s target market = semi high IQ jewish atheists with a chip on the shoulder (looks and manners not on their side).

    Milo Yia-whatchamacallit’s target market = wimpy atheist whites with a yearning for letting the rage out.

    Maybe Sailer could do background research on those guys too.

    Nobody that picks a celebrity guru to explain life’s intricacies is high IQ. Or sensible.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @Kronos
    @Buzz Mohawk

    She does have a glowering presence like that sad sack aunt that circles around big family reunions every few years. Like Barack Obama and Jordan Peterson they worked in their respective mini circuits for years in obscurity until they find their big break with something akin to the Soros Foundation.


    https://youtu.be/a3XbfpqwfRI

    , @ben tillman
    @Buzz Mohawk


    And who is selling Robin DiAngelo to the world, anyway?

    Behind every mediocrity who suddenly bursts upon us, there has to be some managing force.
     
    Some of us are still trying to figure out how Pastor Scofield got his new and improved bible published by Oxford University Press.
    , @AnotherDad
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Buzz, calling Stacey "mediocre" is insulting our nation.

    Stacey Abrams is the new America--fat, broke, female and blackety, black. (Seems like she should have some tattoos.)

    , @kaganovitch
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Behind every mediocrity who suddenly bursts upon us, there has to be some managing force. (No, I am not claiming to know who or what it is, or that it is even always the same.)

    Nonsense. Next you're going to say that Barack Obama had a thin resume for the Presidency and he too was being managed....

    , @MBlanc46
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Our Generac has eliminated our concern about power outages here in the
    Chicago suburbs.

  10. Westfield State University is a public university in Westfield, Massachusetts. It was founded in 1838 by Horace Mann as the first public co-educational college in America without barrier to race, gender, or economic class.

    Westfield State University = Is Ivy-attuned leftist sewer.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Reg Cæsar

    Splendid.

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Reg Cæsar

    Well it's easy to look up. The fun would have been guessing, which I correctly did.

    Anyway, if you live in the commonwealth and aren't too bright, yet you want to be a teacher, Westfield State may be the place for you.

    It's most famous alumni are George Cortelyou, a former treasury and commerce secretary, as well as postmaster general, and Peter Laviolette, who as a head coach won a Stanley Cup with the Hurricanes.

  11. It seems that John McWhorter also is being eaten by envy. Envy, the only deadly sin that gives no pleasure.

    The Dehumanizing Condescension of White Fragility: The popular book aims to combat racism but talks down to Black people by John Mcwhorter
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/dehumanizing-condescension-white-fragility/614146/

    • Thanks: Paul Jolliffe
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @utu

    Even two years into Trump's first term McWhorter was insisting Trump was dumb and had simply blundered into the job. Imagine being so envious and stupid as to assert that. TDS is real, folks.

    In the same breath he was bad mouthing Tennessee Coates for being a mediocre intellectual raised up by white lefties precisely because he had no nuance or depth. Now, I happen to agree with McWhorter's assessment, but it was sour grapes on his part, since he'd never been elevated that high and was clearly jealous, and McWhorter's never written anything memorable himself. Ivory tower hissy fit by one pet against a new favorite.

    The affirmative action hire can rot.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous

    , @Not Only Wrathful
    @utu

    It is hardly envy to be angry with some ignorant nobody declaring that you, because of your dark skin, have no agency.

    , @Redman
    @utu

    Yikes. Now that was a pretty brutal take down by McWhorter. Seems to draw a similar conclusion as Steve. To wit, DiAngelo really resembles a cult leader.

    , @3g4me
    @utu

    @11 utu: John Mcwhorter is a grifter wannabe. He found being a mascot for the TruCons didn't pay as much as being aggressively BLACK, so he stopped writing about the inevitable failures of black students (due to laziness, never genetics, nuh uh, nosirree) and started writing about raycisssssm. And another magic negro bites the dust for the eternally hopeful conservatards. Too bad, so sad.

  12. But if we take her at her word that she will turn 64 in September, what strikes me about this outline of her life is how boring and depressing her career has been until her very recently getting rich and honored. To call her an “academic,” for instance, gives the wrong impression because she’s from the prole depths of the most lowbrow academia.

    There’s nothing particularly boring or depressing about it. It’s just a pretty normal/average life, like that of millions of people. Actually, above average, if you think about it.

    In contrast, compare the career of well-paid gender theorist Judith Butler, who was born the same year as DiAngelo. Butler is famous/notorious for an opaque prose style that is catnip to grad students while impenetrable to civilians:

    You’re taking them at face value. It’s all a scam. You’re taking seriously the pretentiousness of these people, and their fake intellectualism, and their credentials and their supposed academic bona fides. Butler is Jewish, which is like being royalty in Academia. Di Angelo isn’t. Just that should give you the hint.

    I know many people getting academic jobs whose basic shtick is that a) they are Jewish b) they have good connections and in general excel at networking. They also publish a lot, but that’s helped by b. They are hard-working, I suppose, and they are certainly not dumb, but also no geniuses.

    I prefer someone like Di Angelo. The problem of the fetishization of IQ in HBD circles is that they tend to actually believe in the “superiority” of people like Butler, who is useless, and not even that smart, just born and connected to the right people.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @utu
    @Dumbo

    "I prefer someone like Di Angelo. The problem of the fetishization of IQ in HBD circles is that they tend to actually believe in the “superiority” of people like Butle" - Concur.

    , @syonredux
    @Dumbo


    Butler is Jewish, which is like being royalty in Academia.
     
    Dunno. Based on my experience, Blacks are the true academic royalty. After all, they are eagerly pursued (one Black academic of my acquaintance has changed unis 6 times in 10 years, each time getting a bigger paycheck),admitted into elite unis despite having lower-tier IQs (when I was in grad school, the Black students were clearly the least intelligent ones ), and achieve publication with inferior work.

    Heck, to a somewhat lesser degree, you can extend this to other members of the BIPOC coalition. For example, Richard Rodriguez has written about how he, during his days as an English grad student specializing in Renaissance lit, was all but guaranteed a tenure-track job due to his status as a visibly part Amerind Mestizo.

    Blacks are big show royalty (think the Windsors);Amerinds are bus-and-truck royalty (think Scandinavian royal houses);and Mestizos are upper-tier nobility (Dukes and Marquesses).


    South Asians and East Asians are roughly equivalent to Mestizos, but only in terms of the humanities (English lit, History, etc). When it comes to jobs in the hard sciences, they are basically on equal footing with Europeans.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anon

    , @Grumpy
    @Dumbo

    Mr. Sailer has actually made me appreciate DiAngelo's accomplishments. The people who know how to play the academic game are impressive in their own way. If you don't mind cynically spouting whatever nonsense people want to hear, you can go far. A lot of modern life is like that. Some people are born on second base, but DiAngelo wasn't.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland

    , @syonredux
    @Dumbo

    And I left out another powerful academic clique, the LGBTQs. There are a decent number of English Lit departments that are basically run by the LGBTQ mafia. Of course, the LGBTQ mafia overlaps with the Jews to a considerable degree. For example, I once taught at a smaller uni where all of the male Jews were Gay. Two of them were "married," and everyone knew that they were the power couple in the department.

  13. Hail’s theory is that DiAngelo is basically a blue-collar prole by upbringing who has always resented the kind of white-collar office workers she is paid to harangue.

    Hail can keep his theory.

    As an actual blue-collar person from a very blue-collar area, I can tell you she has “plant” markers plastered all over her. I doubt she was chosen by an intelligence agency. Maybe a publisher wanted to spice the catalog up and picked her as a Dark Horse publishing phenom. But there was surely some agency money involved. She’s a highly probable phony.

    At the risk of being called the Lesser Miles Mathis, I tell you stuff like this don’t happen. Blue collar workers I have known have written well of their war experiences, along with “grapes of wrath” books about the Rustbelt era, and none got so much as a “maybe”. And they were well-vetted manuscripts, I saw a few. But the American experience as real American experience it is no longer welcome at publishers row.

    And as you sagely noted, cancelling her will be a breeze when her spiel goes stale.

    • Agree: R.G. Camara
    • Thanks: Anonymousse
    • Replies: @anon
    @Franz


    ... I can tell you she has “plant” markers plastered all over her. I doubt she was chosen by an intelligence agency. Maybe a publisher wanted to spice the catalog up and picked her as a Dark Horse ...
     
    I had just asked myself the related question, "who or what financed the beginnings of her endeavor?"

    Knowing additional data points about her might reveal some truly exciting facts, as iSteve noted.

    Follow the money, someone said ...
    , @Federalist
    @Franz


    Hail can keep his theory.

    As an actual blue-collar person from a very blue-collar area, I can tell you she has “plant” markers plastered all over her.
     
    Did you read what Hail wrote? He researched and wrote two well reasoned articles on Robin DiAngelo's biography and on the rise of DiAngelo's "white fragility" concept. Of course, Hail may be wrong but his theory is supported by more than your ability as a person with a blue collar background to identify "plant markers."

    Replies: @Franz

  14. In contrast, compare the career of well-paid gender theorist Judith Butler, who was born the same year as DiAngelo. Butler is famous/notorious for an opaque prose style that is catnip to grad students while impenetrable to civilians:

    I beg to differ, Steve. All of the people that I knew in grad school loathed having to read her. Heck, even the prof who taught the mandatory theory class cheerfully admitted that she was one of the worst writers that he had ever encountered.

  15. @R.G. Camara
    Sounds as if she was raised by a single mother who was Italian-Catholic, but Dad or Step-Dad figure was Jewish, and hence the kibbutz.

    She spent her youth wandering around and sleeping with many, many men, trying to "find herself", tried the lesbian-earth mother route, then married up another woman's beta-male gap-grinning left-wing husband and tried to make her career #1, all the while inside missing and despairing over the children she never had (and likely murdered in the womb).

    And so, when she got truly miserable, she blamed white people. Which made her millions.

    All in all, she sounds like a cliched story about a half-Jewish hippie-academic feminist.

    P.S. Springfield, MA IS really a down-and-out, crime-riddled, diversity-infused city in Mass, which surprises even Massholes who live closer to Boston (about 2-3 hours east). You'd be surprised how many "ethnic non-white" drug gangs get arrested out of there. Must be a popular stop between NYC and the Canadian border for drug traffickers.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Was her father a Jewish construction worker who married a Catholic telephone operator? Maybe, but probably not.

    Working on a kibbutz for a little while was a thing in the 1970s. I had a Protestant friend who did it for six weeks or so in 1980.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Steve Sailer

    Or was her father a Jewish man who knocked up her Italian-Catholic mother and then some other schmuck raised her or was accused of being her father?

    Or did gentile Daddy construction worker run off, leaving her to be raised alone by Mommy and become the lost little girl she became, growing to hate men and become a feminist?

    Anyway you slice it, she's a cliche. A sad cliche, but a cliche all the same.

    Replies: @Jane Plain

    , @Solomon the Fish
    @Steve Sailer

    Come on Steve, don’t be coy. You know how relevant Catholicism is to understanding DiAngelo. Racism = original sin, fragility=guilt. Confess the racism that you were born with and receive absolution. She’s a lapsed Catholic perceiving correct politics through the lens she inherited. It’s really that fucking dumb.

    Replies: @Jane Plain, @Simplepseudonymichandle

    , @James O'Meara
    @Steve Sailer

    "Working on a kibbutz for a little while was a thing in the 1970s. I had a Protestant friend who did it for six weeks or so in 1980."

    Really? That would explain a weird bit on Two & A Half Men, where a couple times Charlie or Alan would recall that their monstrous mother had shipped them off to a kibbutz "where we were constantly beaten up because we weren't even Jewish!" I just thought that was Chuck Lorre adding a bit of yiddishkeit.

  16. In 2007, in her early 50s, she got hired as a professor of education at Westfield State, which is somewhere or other.

    Wherever Westfield may be, it is pretty White, or at least pretty non-Black:

    https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/westfield-state-university/student-life/diversity/#secEthnic

    The demographics of the town of Westfield are even more – how shall we say – fragile:

    https://www.cityofwestfield.org/242/Demographics

    “The racial makeup of the city was 92.8% White, 1.6% African American,………..”

    Westfield sounds like just the kind of place that a white lady professor would go, if she were more comfortable writing about Black people, rather than actually teaching them or living amongst them.

    • Agree: Coemgen
    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Mr. Anon

    She and her husband lived in Springfield, which , as Steve says, is rather vibrant. Westfield is one of the more normal towns in Western Mass, blue collar-ish, not vibrant, not currently being overrun by lesbians. (the Rosie O’Donnell variety, not the Pornhub variety.)

    Replies: @Prosa123

  17. @Buzz Mohawk
    And who is selling Robin DiAngelo to the world, anyway?

    Behind every mediocrity who suddenly bursts upon us, there has to be some managing force. (No, I am not claiming to know who or what it is, or that it is even always the same.)

    Stacey Abrams is another good example of someone behind whom there has to be some kind of support and planning. Alexandria Ocasio-Whatever, the bartender from Westchester County is another one.

    None of these people accomplish anything on their own. They are packaged, marketed products.
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    Hah! I get it. For when the power goes out……………like in South Africa.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Mr. Anon

    Isaias knocked down a lot of trees, taking out power lines. We've been on our generator for 37 hours now...

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Captain Tripps, @captflee, @Redman, @Mr. Anon

  18. @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    Was her father a Jewish construction worker who married a Catholic telephone operator? Maybe, but probably not.

    Working on a kibbutz for a little while was a thing in the 1970s. I had a Protestant friend who did it for six weeks or so in 1980.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Solomon the Fish, @James O'Meara

    Or was her father a Jewish man who knocked up her Italian-Catholic mother and then some other schmuck raised her or was accused of being her father?

    Or did gentile Daddy construction worker run off, leaving her to be raised alone by Mommy and become the lost little girl she became, growing to hate men and become a feminist?

    Anyway you slice it, she’s a cliche. A sad cliche, but a cliche all the same.

    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    @R.G. Camara

    If her father was Jewish, wouldn't she be more intelligent?

    Replies: @throtler

  19. @Anonymous
    Related: Twitter is noticing the unmistakable pattern of woke chicks of color mating with white guys.

    They are meming the usual suspects from The Squad etc.

    https://www.revolver.news/2020/07/woke-women-dating-white-men/


    But foxnews has a pic up of Obama flunky Susan Rice next to a pic of her son and he's ... wait for it ... a white guy.

    HAHAHAHAHA

    It's a good article by foxnews standards and Rice sounds like a flag waving Reaganite by the end of a long explanation of relating to her conservative (white) son.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/susan-rice-trump-supporting-son

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Kent Nationalist, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Steve in Greensboro

    Of course they’re cheerleading for Susan Rice. Her husband is Ian Cameron, the head producer at ABC News. She’s part of the left-wing corporate media family!

  20. @utu
    It seems that John McWhorter also is being eaten by envy. Envy, the only deadly sin that gives no pleasure.

    The Dehumanizing Condescension of White Fragility: The popular book aims to combat racism but talks down to Black people by John Mcwhorter
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/dehumanizing-condescension-white-fragility/614146/

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Not Only Wrathful, @Redman, @3g4me

    Even two years into Trump’s first term McWhorter was insisting Trump was dumb and had simply blundered into the job. Imagine being so envious and stupid as to assert that. TDS is real, folks.

    In the same breath he was bad mouthing Tennessee Coates for being a mediocre intellectual raised up by white lefties precisely because he had no nuance or depth. Now, I happen to agree with McWhorter’s assessment, but it was sour grapes on his part, since he’d never been elevated that high and was clearly jealous, and McWhorter’s never written anything memorable himself. Ivory tower hissy fit by one pet against a new favorite.

    The affirmative action hire can rot.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @R.G. Camara

    McWhorter wrote one of the most insightful articles of the past decade, his Daily Beast piece comparing ‘anti-racism’ to religion.

    I’ve read two of his books on language; both were excellent.

    He is a man of genuine intellectual substance, even if he suffers from typical liberal limits to his criticism of the establishment left.

    While McWhorter hems and haws about who exactly should be debating race and IQ, he does not dismiss the concept of genetic factors in racial disparities outright as almost any other left intellectual of his standing would.

    Saying he is an “affirmative action” type is baseless and just reflects poorly on you.

    Replies: @Veracitor

    , @Anonymous
    @R.G. Camara

    "I happen to agree with McWhorter’s assessment, but it was sour grapes on his part, since he’d never been elevated that high and was clearly jealous, and McWhorter’s never written anything memorable himself."

  21. Andrew Joyce is distraught she’s not Jewish.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
    • Replies: @3g4me
    @Lot

    @21 Lot: Says the eternal coup counter of fellow tribesmen.

    , @DCThrowback
    @Lot

    it ain't over until the "23 & me" sings

    , @Colin Wright
    @Lot

    'Andrew Joyce is distraught she’s not Jewish.'

    We're distraught you're not Jewish. At any rate, it would make you more excusable.

  22. • Replies: @Redman
    @PiltdownMan

    What a colossal piece of shit NY Magazine is. This is supposed to make the two vandal lawyers appear sympathetic? The article tries to justify these idiots's rage because of DJT's policies. Totally insane.

    Is it just me, or does the media seem to be intentionally trying to stoke a civil war? All the news is infused with rank opinion untethered to reality.

    Replies: @Forbes

  23. At the “prole depths of lowbrow academia,” most people are working in a no-benefits, no-career-track gig economy that bears a much greater resemblance to being a line cook at Applebee’s than anything one might associate with the life of the mind.

    As middle age dampened the fires of her wanderlust (carnal and nomadic) she landed a tolerable hubby and found a side-hustle that works for her, which says something for her resourcefulness. It’s probably not too taxing — apart from the travel and the book signings — but the speaking fees are generous and the royalty checks keep rolling in as legions of her fellow cubicle drones are bullied into buying her books, in order to satisfy the Stasi in HR.

    The American Dream — circa 2020.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @black sea


    At the “prole depths of lowbrow academia,” most people are working in a no-benefits, no-career-track gig economy that bears a much greater resemblance to being a line cook at Applebee’s than anything one might associate with the life of the mind.
     
    Except that being a line cook at Applebee's pays better.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    , @Coemgen
    @black sea


    At the “prole depths of lowbrow academia,” most people are working in a no-benefits, no-career-track gig economy that bears a much greater resemblance to being a line cook at Applebee’s than anything one might associate with the life of the mind.
     
    This usage of gig is a euphemism for "day laborer."
    , @Muggles
    @black sea

    >>legions of her fellow cubicle drones are bullied into buying her books, in order to satisfy the Stasi in HR.<<

    Nicely put.

  24. @Mr. Anon
    @Buzz Mohawk


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    Hah! I get it. For when the power goes out...............like in South Africa.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Isaias knocked down a lot of trees, taking out power lines. We’ve been on our generator for 37 hours now…

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Isaias knocked down a lot of trees, taking out power lines. We’ve been on our generator for 37 hours now…
     
    Could be worse...

    "The Beirut explosion transposed over a map of Chicago if the bomb were to have gone off at Navy Pier"

    https://i.redd.it/feom1efhaaf51.jpg

    Replies: @guest007, @MBlanc46

    , @Captain Tripps
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Fortunately, our power lines are buried, so not even a flicker as the storm came through.

    , @captflee
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Wow, Buzz...

    37 hours! Hell, I'm maybe a half hour's drive from landfall, and we were back up within a dozen hours. You have my sympathy, and best wishes for rapid restoration.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    , @Redman
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Hang in there Buzz. Same story here in southern Westchester. Isaias was an unexpected bitch.

    But on the bright side, the Metro North to Grand Central was packed for the first time since March 20. Lot of folks can't work from home for a while. I wonder if it will continue when the electricity is restored. Or will the City remain a ghost town until the election?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Okay, I read too much into your comment. Still, When the country is arranged according to Ms. Di Angelo's liking, electricity might well become a bit of a luxury.

  25. Anonymous[504] • Disclaimer says:

    Prole by the standards of the ruthless snobbery & star-system of the academic demimonde, yes, but to the government-job peons straining to engross themselves in the modern pointless missionary/time-filling endeavor described by David Graeber she must seem like an especially chic bizarro-fertility-deity (but thin) from pre-Abrahamic lore; the Netflix adaptation of the manga of the Eat-Pray-Love Antichrist. Resorted to Ctrl-F on “childr” and “fam” by the way (she does use the latter word prolifically)

  26. @Dumbo

    But if we take her at her word that she will turn 64 in September, what strikes me about this outline of her life is how boring and depressing her career has been until her very recently getting rich and honored. To call her an “academic,” for instance, gives the wrong impression because she’s from the prole depths of the most lowbrow academia.
     
    There's nothing particularly boring or depressing about it. It's just a pretty normal/average life, like that of millions of people. Actually, above average, if you think about it.

    In contrast, compare the career of well-paid gender theorist Judith Butler, who was born the same year as DiAngelo. Butler is famous/notorious for an opaque prose style that is catnip to grad students while impenetrable to civilians:
     
    You're taking them at face value. It's all a scam. You're taking seriously the pretentiousness of these people, and their fake intellectualism, and their credentials and their supposed academic bona fides. Butler is Jewish, which is like being royalty in Academia. Di Angelo isn't. Just that should give you the hint.

    I know many people getting academic jobs whose basic shtick is that a) they are Jewish b) they have good connections and in general excel at networking. They also publish a lot, but that's helped by b. They are hard-working, I suppose, and they are certainly not dumb, but also no geniuses.

    I prefer someone like Di Angelo. The problem of the fetishization of IQ in HBD circles is that they tend to actually believe in the "superiority" of people like Butler, who is useless, and not even that smart, just born and connected to the right people.

    Replies: @utu, @syonredux, @Grumpy, @syonredux

    “I prefer someone like Di Angelo. The problem of the fetishization of IQ in HBD circles is that they tend to actually believe in the “superiority” of people like Butle” – Concur.

  27. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Mr. Anon

    Isaias knocked down a lot of trees, taking out power lines. We've been on our generator for 37 hours now...

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Captain Tripps, @captflee, @Redman, @Mr. Anon

    Isaias knocked down a lot of trees, taking out power lines. We’ve been on our generator for 37 hours now…

    Could be worse…

    “The Beirut explosion transposed over a map of Chicago if the bomb were to have gone off at Navy Pier”

    • LOL: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @guest007
    @Reg Cæsar

    The bomb in equivalent to a 3 kiloton bomb (TNT). That is doing to do significant damage.

    , @MBlanc46
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks. I see that we’re just on the edge of the outer ring.

  28. Sure, the majority of Whites don’t like this.

    However, today’s Whites inhabit a highly atomized social milieu, in which extreme individualism prohibits any type of large-scale group action. So it’s tough to fight the ruling class…… As for “voting out the bums,” that doesn’t work either. Not when both parties are controlled opposition, with sham elections giving people the illusion of choice. Coke V.S. Pepsi. So that won’t work.

    When you get down to it, there’s not much that Whites can do. Other than grumble on Twitter and the Breitbart comment section…. and post here.

    In fairness, this what every nationalist or revolutionary has complained about on the eve of a mass consciousness raising.

    But right now you’re correct, when the mayor of Minneapolis had a crowd of mostly blacks shout him down when he went out to meet them outside his house it was only a visible display of this. No matter if they are surrounded by other white [people and presented with only one non-white arguing in their ethnic interest, it’s as though the white is surrounded by non-whites. See Bernie Sanders infront of a crowd of white people meekly ceding the microphone to two black women during the 2016 campaign.

    Immigrants and non-whites are given a veto on immigration and ethnic issues. The second one black guy or even one Polish guy showed up, Iceland became multicultural.

    The immigrant veto: The moment a single person of non-North Western European ancestry shows up in a Western European country or derived the 21st century, they have the right to veto any attempt to reduce immigration and to demand the whole society be redefined around them.

    Any attempt to suggest that the immigrant isn’t acting as a very nice guest will be seen as modern heresy.

    This mentality is best summed up by a Lebanese guy who got into Belgium by asylum fraud (He admits this, thinks he did nothing wrong) who became a politician for the fact of being a young ethnocentric Sunni Muslim man who didn’t have a violent criminal record.

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=629_1239027931

    “The autochthons can’t adapt to the multicultural reality. That’s what’s going on. Then they will have to emigrate. Who does not like it here, should leave.”

    AEL-leader Dyab Abou Jahjah makes this statement in the latest edition of the Dutch magazine ‘Society Quarterly’, a quite remarkable statement.
    Belgians or Dutchmen who can’t live with the multicultural society in their own country should move/emigrate.

    Emigrate to where, is the question.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyab_Abou_Jahjah

  29. 4080810

    Incentives matter.

    Let’s say that the ruling class embraces the religion of “Kiwi-ism.” This religion involves worship of kiwis, which are morally superior to all the other types of fruits.

    Let’s say the ruling class decides to give lucrative careers to people who can speak articulately about their love of kiwis. Pro-kiwi individuals see their careers advance rapidly in the media, academia, government, and the corporate world. Embracing kiwis seems to be a path to prosperity. Meanwhile, pro-Mango individuals often get harassed and demeaned, sometimes even fired.

    Let’s say pro-kiwi activists often get carried away, often attacking Mango farmers and setting fire to their fields. Sometimes pro-kiwi social media sites ban accounts that defend mangos too aggressively.

    In this type of society, which fruit do you think will sell better? The kiwi or the mango?

    Which fruit will artists paint? Which fruit will poets write about? Which fruit will people dress up as for Halloween? Which fruit will get subsidized by our govt?

    In the West, the ruling class has access to tremendous wealth and powerful, well-functioning institutions. If you embrace their ideologies, they can enrich you significantly. If you reject their propaganda, they can ruin you financially and socially.

    In today’s West, attacking Whites is a path to respectability. If you’re trying to climb the career ladder or launch a media/literary/entertainment career, attacking Whites will give you a leg up on the competition.
    Sometimes you can create a lucrative full-time job in which your sole task is to write about the flaws of White people. Nice work if you can get it.

    Defending Whites, on the other hand, is a path to poverty. Nobody will hire you for anything. People will keep their distance from you. You’ll be a pariah.

    Being anti-White is a competitive advantage in today’s America. That’s why anti-Whiteism is the strongest in careers, educational institutions, and regions which are known for being highly competitive to begin with.

    Sure, the majority of Whites don’t like this.

    However, today’s Whites inhabit a highly atomized social milieu, in which extreme individualism precludes any type of large-scale group action. So it’s tough to fight the ruling class…… As for “voting out the bums,” that doesn’t work either. Not when both parties are controlled opposition, with sham elections giving people the choice of Coke V.S. Pepsi. So that won’t work.

    When you get down to it, there’s not much that Whites can do. Other than grumble on Twitter, Facebook, and the Breitbart comment section.

    Anti-Whiteism is actually in a more fragile position than Communism was during the Soviet era. At least Communism was popular with the working-class masses for a while. Anti-Whiteism has never had much of a constituency, other than Blacks and Jews. White Conservatives&Moderates hate it. White Liberals may tolerate it, but they’re not that excited.

    I suppose that’s why our rulers are so obsessed with importing huge numbers of foreign immigrants and teaching them that Whites disrespected their ancestors. Our rulers figure that if they can change the demographics of Western countries and encourage the new diverse “Americans” to dislike Whites, then Anti-Whiteism will stand on more solid ground.

    The current social order will continue until one of the following happens.

    1. There’s a massive economic or military catastrophe, leading to the collapse of the ruling class. If this happens, then anti-Whiteism will collapse as quickly as Communism did after the Soviet Union fell apart. When the population doesn’t really believe in the state’s ideology, then it fades once the rulers are gone.

    2. Whites get squeezed hard enough and get really angry, but have nowhere to run and nothing left to lose. So they begin to organically coalesce together. At that point, they could begin to fight back and retake their country. If you want to understand what this might look like, study the Reconstruction era in the post-Civil War South.

    I could think of plausible scenarios in which both happen.

    The continuity of Anti-Whiteism is contingent on the continuation of the current economic&social order. If a major shock causes the current order to collapse, then everything could change very quickly. At that point, life could get very interesting for all of us.

    Right now, the system is being shocked by the COVID recession, massive deficit spending, BLM/Anti-Fa turmoil, and political bickering. Will the system continue to withstand these shocks? Is there anything more massive on the horizon?

    Stay tuned.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @JohnnyWalker123

    What happened to Buzz Mohawk's comment that I was replying to?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Bardon Kaldian

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @JohnnyWalker123

    The 1916 Easter Rising at the Dublin GPO was viewed with contempt by most Irishmen, who had grown tired of firebrands, and thought James Connolly was a lunatic. That is, until the British overplayed their hand in reaction, and began committing outrages and atrocities in response, which swayed Irish public opinion in the opposite direction. Which produced Michael Collins, which produced the Republic.

    , @tyrone
    @JohnnyWalker123

    How about electing a president with Alzheimers………horizon? no, we're about to hit a reef.

    , @DCThrowback
    @JohnnyWalker123

    JohnnyWalker123, you're one of my favorite commenters here. Next time you're in DC, let's grab a beer. Bravo.

    Now, riddle me this: One COULD argue that COVID Theater, Russian Collusion, Impeachment, BLM/Antifa are all being *sponsored* by the same people whom you define as the Ruling Class. At the very least, there is tremendous overlap. And they have the megaphone parroting the lies behind them, over and over.

    These elites are so upset (TDS) that the rubes used the one outlet they had left (election of DJT) to voice disapproval over their rule, that the Empire Struck Back, so to speak. Take that rubes!!!

    So while you'd THINK they'd be hard pressed to keep the pot from boiling over, they are actually turning the heat up on the stove. Is it all Trump/Rube hatred? Is it because a number of these folks are categorized, glibly, as "dual loyalists", i.e, they have a place to go if the shit gets too hot?

    Are we being extorted to vote for their sham candidate in NOV with the implicit promise "this" (/waves hand in big circle) will abate if you once again acknowledge who rules over you?

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    , @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia
    @JohnnyWalker123

    JohnnyWalker123

    Spot on analysis.

    There is one key component of the current craziness that makes this time time different: businesses and the corporations -- and particularly advertising agencies -- are all in on the anti-white madness.

    If a Martian came down and watched the ads on commercial TV, he might conclude half of the intact families in the nation are black households with doting fathers and cute kids, all the Hispanics are bourgeoisie middle class and Euro in physiognomy, and all the Whites are an afterthought, except in My Pillow commercials. Minnesota in bygone days.

    Where is Don Draper when you need him?

    A signal that we've reached peak anti-whitness/pro-wokeness is when corporations decide they've had enough and/or tell the mob they've had enough. Trader Joe's recent push back was heartening, although it was customers who told Management not to go there. Same with The Wall St. Journal editorial page telling the snowflakes to pound sand.

    But I fear these are outliers, and convergence is here to stay. It does not bode well.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Chrisnonymous

    , @Kratoklastes
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Embracing kiwis seems to be a path to prosperity.
     
    I tire of being embraced all the time by people who are convinced of this.

    New Zealand is smart, atheist and prosperous (and calm, and good at Rugby) because of its people - but our talent isn't transferred on contact.

    Also: Jack Turner hit upon re-naming the Chinese Gooseberry to 'Kiwifruit' in 1959 - but a lot of people of my generation dislike the name because it was entirely artificial and made up to take advantage of stupid retarded Americans (well before "Freedom fries", Yanks weren't buying Chinese Gooseberries because of US Cold War Sinophobic propaganda).

    As late as the late 70s, the original name was still common use in Taranaki. I still refuse to use the neologism, and it pleases me that the largest exporter of Chinese Gooseberries is... China.

    Mango 4 Life, yo. (Especially Bowen and the newfangled R2E2)
  30. No mention of DiAngelo is complete without this clip of lockdown Jimmy Fallon quickly making up for the blackface clip that went viral after 20 years. Look at his face, look at her face.

    She’s got those crazy eyes and a constant smirk. That’s what a lot of these types have. Call it cluster B face.

    • Replies: @Steve in Greensboro
    @Altai

    I took a dramamine and tried to listen to these two blather on. I only got so far as to hear her say: "...that's how big an a-holes (Whites) are..."

    Progressives project. They tell you what they think of themselves by what they accuse you of. They tell you what they are planning by what they say you are planning. What a contemptible group.,

    , @James O'Meara
    @Altai

    Her career finally took off when she took Tina Fey as her role model.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Altai

    "She's got those crazy eyes and a constant smirk."

    She's a high-functioning psychopath grown rich from selling her particular snake-oil. She's a Great American.

    , @anon
    @Altai

    Sitting still to listen to that tedious, whining voice for the entire clip is a lot like being at the dentist...and I just got back from dental work so I know what I mean. However DiAngelo did say one thing that is interesting, I paraphrase: white racism (unconscious and conscious) is continually causing black people to self-suppress, in other words black people cannot be their true selves in America because of white racism.

    In other words, if only white raycism would go away, black people would be free to express their true natures without fear. But since all whites are rayciss, what to do, what to do? Her midwit IQ is really on display here, by the way, because...uh, because...well... she's arguing for separation... without even realizing it.

    LOL.

  31. Anon[873] • Disclaimer says:
    @R.G. Camara
    @utu

    Even two years into Trump's first term McWhorter was insisting Trump was dumb and had simply blundered into the job. Imagine being so envious and stupid as to assert that. TDS is real, folks.

    In the same breath he was bad mouthing Tennessee Coates for being a mediocre intellectual raised up by white lefties precisely because he had no nuance or depth. Now, I happen to agree with McWhorter's assessment, but it was sour grapes on his part, since he'd never been elevated that high and was clearly jealous, and McWhorter's never written anything memorable himself. Ivory tower hissy fit by one pet against a new favorite.

    The affirmative action hire can rot.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous

    McWhorter wrote one of the most insightful articles of the past decade, his Daily Beast piece comparing ‘anti-racism’ to religion.

    I’ve read two of his books on language; both were excellent.

    He is a man of genuine intellectual substance, even if he suffers from typical liberal limits to his criticism of the establishment left.

    While McWhorter hems and haws about who exactly should be debating race and IQ, he does not dismiss the concept of genetic factors in racial disparities outright as almost any other left intellectual of his standing would.

    Saying he is an “affirmative action” type is baseless and just reflects poorly on you.

    • LOL: 3g4me
    • Replies: @Veracitor
    @Anon

    McWhorter is an intellectual lightweight who guards the flanks of the Establishment to pay for his affirmative-action sinecure. That does make him a good guide to the Establishment propaganda line.

    Consider McWorter's poorly-written (vide infra) 2013 Time essay ludicrously defending Rachel Jeantel against (now irrefutable) charges of perjury and dimwittedness in the "Trayvon Martin" (George Zimmerman) case. That essay is worth revisiting to review elements other than McWhorter's awkward writing. Consider this gem:



    Few fully understand that the tension between young black men and the police (and by extension, security guards, traffic cops and just about any sort of watchman) is the main thing keeping America from getting past race. If ten years went by without a story like the Martin case we’d be in a very different country.

     

    Perhaps we would be, but a fresh hoax like the Martin case every few years (latterly George Floyd) has oh-so-conveniently prevented it. McWorter wasn't fazed by the source— persistent, aggressive black violence and crime— of the "tension" to which he referred. He was just pushing the Establishment line, already prescribed seven years ago, that America should remove all obstacles ("the police," "security guards, traffic cops and just about any sort of watchman") to violent black criminals so that America can "get past race."

    "BLM," anyone? How about "defund the police?" John McWorter presaged racial antinomianism like John the Baptist foretold the advent of Christianity.

    As for McWhorter's academic pretensions, six years ago Steve Sailer riffed on a review by Oliver Kamm in The Times of London of McWhorter’s book The Language Hoax which denounces the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis.


    I was privileged to comment then (my goodness, how time flies!) as follows:


    A pardonable egocentrism (to which I, as much as anyone, am prey) leads us to think about Whorfianism mostly in individual, even self-referenced terms. If “I” don’t have a special word for powdery snow, am “I” less able to think about snow in all its varied forms? Certainly I may build up noun phrases “powdery snow; sticky snow” and slang terms like “Sierra cement” (those of you who have skiied Mammoth will understand), but perhaps “I” don’t have the legendary nival insight of the Esquimaux? If deprived by the compilers of Newspeak of terms for sophisticated concepts like declining marginal returns to capital, am I not hampered in thinking of them, since I must spend so much mental effort in circumlocution?*

    Yet the true power of today’s Newspeak, the politically-correct vocabulary mandated by the AP Style Guide, the speech codes of the universities, et cetera, lies not so much in befogging individual thought as preventing communication among individuals who might, the language-manglers fear, aggregate into groups hostile to the powers that be.

    The public use of terms such as “illegal alien” must be suppressed, not because doing so prevents individual resentment of said aliens, but because those who might organize political opposition to illegal immigration will be stifled and stymied by their inability to communicate with potential recruits to their cause. If you aren’t allowed to name an evil in public, how can you organize any opposition to it?

    McWhorter is just doing his job as a shill for the elites.** That job is to demoralize and silence the elites’ opponents, and one way to do that (just as TV talking heads denounce all criticism of elites as “crackpot conspiracy theories”) is to confuse and devalue the intellectual tools by which elite propaganda may be understood and possibly counteracted.

    Whorfianism cannot fully explain individual thought, for if it did, no new thoughts would be possible. That is obviously untrue; we see that people invent new words to go with new thoughts and life proceeds apace. But Whorfianism does help explain the difficulty of sending new thoughts through society! When an necessary word is lacking, a thought cannot be simply and quickly communicated– it must be slowly and laboriously propagated along with new vocabulary which many people past adolescence are reluctant to learn.

    So applied Whorfianism is not contemptible. McWhorter himself is applying Whorfianism in a way. He belittles Whorfianism to guard the flanks of political correctness! If anyone complains that enforcement of politically-correct restrictions on vocabulary hampers democratic discourse, McWhorter is there to show that the complainers are crackpots: vocabulary has nothing to do with thought and therefore, he implies quite maliciously, with communication.

    It is rather a different point, but I was bemused by the awkward writing McWhorter displayed in his Time essay helpfully linked by Dave Pinsen above. McWhorter refused to call Jeantel’s lies “lies,” so instead he dug into his thesaurus for euphemisms such as “dissimulate” and “feign” to describe her lies, then demonstrated that he doesn’t really understand how to use those words, writing, for example, that Jeantel “feigned on whether calling someone a cracker was racially motivated.” “Feigned on…?” Bzzzzzt! McWorter’s essay is full of solecisms. For example, he often switches tense in a confusing manner. Considering the whole thing, I suspect McWhorter calls Jeantel’s command of English “perfect” only because his is not a hell of a lot better.

    *It is natural to think along these lines, since the jargon and the concepts in most fields of study are nearly merged, very probably because our biology constrains us to accomplish most advanced thought using our human facility for verbal logic.

    **That is the price of Affirmative Action. In return for bootlicking loyalty, American elites promote blacks like McWhorter in the place of smarter middle-class whites. It’s all very clever; some of those smart middle-class whites, if they got into HYP, might actually compete with children of the elites, so they must be kept out, and the best way to keep them out is to give their spots to McWhorter-types who will not so compete, but who will make grateful and therefore more useful house servants.

     

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Anon, @Jack D, @syonredux, @ben tillman

  32. @JohnnyWalker123
    Incentives matter.

    Let's say that the ruling class embraces the religion of "Kiwi-ism." This religion involves worship of kiwis, which are morally superior to all the other types of fruits.

    Let's say the ruling class decides to give lucrative careers to people who can speak articulately about their love of kiwis. Pro-kiwi individuals see their careers advance rapidly in the media, academia, government, and the corporate world. Embracing kiwis seems to be a path to prosperity. Meanwhile, pro-Mango individuals often get harassed and demeaned, sometimes even fired.

    Let's say pro-kiwi activists often get carried away, often attacking Mango farmers and setting fire to their fields. Sometimes pro-kiwi social media sites ban accounts that defend mangos too aggressively.

    In this type of society, which fruit do you think will sell better? The kiwi or the mango?

    Which fruit will artists paint? Which fruit will poets write about? Which fruit will people dress up as for Halloween? Which fruit will get subsidized by our govt?

    In the West, the ruling class has access to tremendous wealth and powerful, well-functioning institutions. If you embrace their ideologies, they can enrich you significantly. If you reject their propaganda, they can ruin you financially and socially.

    In today's West, attacking Whites is a path to respectability. If you're trying to climb the career ladder or launch a media/literary/entertainment career, attacking Whites will give you a leg up on the competition.
    Sometimes you can create a lucrative full-time job in which your sole task is to write about the flaws of White people. Nice work if you can get it.

    Defending Whites, on the other hand, is a path to poverty. Nobody will hire you for anything. People will keep their distance from you. You'll be a pariah.

    Being anti-White is a competitive advantage in today's America. That's why anti-Whiteism is the strongest in careers, educational institutions, and regions which are known for being highly competitive to begin with.

    Sure, the majority of Whites don't like this.

    However, today's Whites inhabit a highly atomized social milieu, in which extreme individualism precludes any type of large-scale group action. So it's tough to fight the ruling class...... As for "voting out the bums," that doesn't work either. Not when both parties are controlled opposition, with sham elections giving people the choice of Coke V.S. Pepsi. So that won't work.

    When you get down to it, there's not much that Whites can do. Other than grumble on Twitter, Facebook, and the Breitbart comment section.

    Anti-Whiteism is actually in a more fragile position than Communism was during the Soviet era. At least Communism was popular with the working-class masses for a while. Anti-Whiteism has never had much of a constituency, other than Blacks and Jews. White Conservatives&Moderates hate it. White Liberals may tolerate it, but they're not that excited.

    I suppose that's why our rulers are so obsessed with importing huge numbers of foreign immigrants and teaching them that Whites disrespected their ancestors. Our rulers figure that if they can change the demographics of Western countries and encourage the new diverse "Americans" to dislike Whites, then Anti-Whiteism will stand on more solid ground.

    The current social order will continue until one of the following happens.

    1. There's a massive economic or military catastrophe, leading to the collapse of the ruling class. If this happens, then anti-Whiteism will collapse as quickly as Communism did after the Soviet Union fell apart. When the population doesn't really believe in the state's ideology, then it fades once the rulers are gone.

    2. Whites get squeezed hard enough and get really angry, but have nowhere to run and nothing left to lose. So they begin to organically coalesce together. At that point, they could begin to fight back and retake their country. If you want to understand what this might look like, study the Reconstruction era in the post-Civil War South.

    I could think of plausible scenarios in which both happen.

    The continuity of Anti-Whiteism is contingent on the continuation of the current economic&social order. If a major shock causes the current order to collapse, then everything could change very quickly. At that point, life could get very interesting for all of us.

    Right now, the system is being shocked by the COVID recession, massive deficit spending, BLM/Anti-Fa turmoil, and political bickering. Will the system continue to withstand these shocks? Is there anything more massive on the horizon?

    Stay tuned.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @tyrone, @DCThrowback, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @Kratoklastes

    What happened to Buzz Mohawk’s comment that I was replying to?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I see that, and I don't know what happened. What was the gist of the comment?

    I wrote and then deleted a stupid reply to your reply, something about kiwi birds, New Zealanders and shoe polish, but I deleted that. That does not explain what happened, though, because it was a reply to what you wrote.

    What were you replying to? Thank you, BTW, for your thoughtful comment. I definitely understand your points.

    Summing it up: Anti-White-ism is a very big problem. Nobody is taking it seriously except those of us who might be accused by the masses of being whatever they want to call us. Personally, I think we have crossed a Rubicon, and I feel sorry for younger White people. In fact, I feel sorry for all others too, because they will be caught up in what will happen after I am dead. The White people of the world, including those kiwis in New Zealand, BTW, are a sleeping giant, and when they wake up, all Hell will break loose. I just hope that after that, when they settle the score, they never again forget.

    https://3a09223b3cd53870eeaa-7f75e5eb51943043279413a54aaa858a.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com//f8ade6ce187a658e82901eac909bd629999452338-1358257309-50f55c9d-360x251.jpg

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Mohawk got tomahawked.

  33. @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    Was her father a Jewish construction worker who married a Catholic telephone operator? Maybe, but probably not.

    Working on a kibbutz for a little while was a thing in the 1970s. I had a Protestant friend who did it for six weeks or so in 1980.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Solomon the Fish, @James O'Meara

    Come on Steve, don’t be coy. You know how relevant Catholicism is to understanding DiAngelo. Racism = original sin, fragility=guilt. Confess the racism that you were born with and receive absolution. She’s a lapsed Catholic perceiving correct politics through the lens she inherited. It’s really that fucking dumb.

    • Agree: PaceLaw, NickG
    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    @Solomon the Fish

    They have to drag a Jewish angle into everything here.

    , @Simplepseudonymichandle
    @Solomon the Fish

    There's 51 million American Catholics, 1.2 billion worldwide - careful with the one-brush.

    Here's some categories I can put them into which I am sure are incomplete:

    1. Attempt at the same strategy, i.e.: "you are being a minority so , so will I", i.e.: identity around Catholicism - worked for awhile, but seems as of V2 stripped of its power so not many do it anymore
    2. Attempt at the same, i.e.: identity around their ethnic roots - used to work, only works now among Latino crowds
    3. Flight - adopt/retain right-wing politics far from the immigrant-cities their parents settled in, largely still secular
    4. Flight - adopt/retain right-wing politics far from the immigrant-cities their parents settled in, go traditional - noting that "traditional" is to the right of "conservative" and "traditional" Catholics can one up Protestant fundamentalists - the latter at least nominally believing in democracy - traditional Catholics long for a return to monarchy, and they aren't kidding
    5. Suburban flight and ally - adopt the centrist left politics of the immigrant-cities their parents settled in as a rough counter-balance and a legitimate inheritance of their working class roots, but move to the suburbs away from the urban decay, while actively supporting the politicians who preside over that same decay

    The last approach is problematic, but for awhile retains principle and then the patina of principle, but we're mostly past both right now - bottom line though is that it was a survival strategy for a time that keeps its adopter on the right side of the swinging fist and forearm.

    Other bottom line is: these are all survival strategies - they all have that in common - which says more than anything.

    51 million though - that's a lot of punch to consolidate if you can find common ground and cause with.

  34. @JohnnyWalker123
    Incentives matter.

    Let's say that the ruling class embraces the religion of "Kiwi-ism." This religion involves worship of kiwis, which are morally superior to all the other types of fruits.

    Let's say the ruling class decides to give lucrative careers to people who can speak articulately about their love of kiwis. Pro-kiwi individuals see their careers advance rapidly in the media, academia, government, and the corporate world. Embracing kiwis seems to be a path to prosperity. Meanwhile, pro-Mango individuals often get harassed and demeaned, sometimes even fired.

    Let's say pro-kiwi activists often get carried away, often attacking Mango farmers and setting fire to their fields. Sometimes pro-kiwi social media sites ban accounts that defend mangos too aggressively.

    In this type of society, which fruit do you think will sell better? The kiwi or the mango?

    Which fruit will artists paint? Which fruit will poets write about? Which fruit will people dress up as for Halloween? Which fruit will get subsidized by our govt?

    In the West, the ruling class has access to tremendous wealth and powerful, well-functioning institutions. If you embrace their ideologies, they can enrich you significantly. If you reject their propaganda, they can ruin you financially and socially.

    In today's West, attacking Whites is a path to respectability. If you're trying to climb the career ladder or launch a media/literary/entertainment career, attacking Whites will give you a leg up on the competition.
    Sometimes you can create a lucrative full-time job in which your sole task is to write about the flaws of White people. Nice work if you can get it.

    Defending Whites, on the other hand, is a path to poverty. Nobody will hire you for anything. People will keep their distance from you. You'll be a pariah.

    Being anti-White is a competitive advantage in today's America. That's why anti-Whiteism is the strongest in careers, educational institutions, and regions which are known for being highly competitive to begin with.

    Sure, the majority of Whites don't like this.

    However, today's Whites inhabit a highly atomized social milieu, in which extreme individualism precludes any type of large-scale group action. So it's tough to fight the ruling class...... As for "voting out the bums," that doesn't work either. Not when both parties are controlled opposition, with sham elections giving people the choice of Coke V.S. Pepsi. So that won't work.

    When you get down to it, there's not much that Whites can do. Other than grumble on Twitter, Facebook, and the Breitbart comment section.

    Anti-Whiteism is actually in a more fragile position than Communism was during the Soviet era. At least Communism was popular with the working-class masses for a while. Anti-Whiteism has never had much of a constituency, other than Blacks and Jews. White Conservatives&Moderates hate it. White Liberals may tolerate it, but they're not that excited.

    I suppose that's why our rulers are so obsessed with importing huge numbers of foreign immigrants and teaching them that Whites disrespected their ancestors. Our rulers figure that if they can change the demographics of Western countries and encourage the new diverse "Americans" to dislike Whites, then Anti-Whiteism will stand on more solid ground.

    The current social order will continue until one of the following happens.

    1. There's a massive economic or military catastrophe, leading to the collapse of the ruling class. If this happens, then anti-Whiteism will collapse as quickly as Communism did after the Soviet Union fell apart. When the population doesn't really believe in the state's ideology, then it fades once the rulers are gone.

    2. Whites get squeezed hard enough and get really angry, but have nowhere to run and nothing left to lose. So they begin to organically coalesce together. At that point, they could begin to fight back and retake their country. If you want to understand what this might look like, study the Reconstruction era in the post-Civil War South.

    I could think of plausible scenarios in which both happen.

    The continuity of Anti-Whiteism is contingent on the continuation of the current economic&social order. If a major shock causes the current order to collapse, then everything could change very quickly. At that point, life could get very interesting for all of us.

    Right now, the system is being shocked by the COVID recession, massive deficit spending, BLM/Anti-Fa turmoil, and political bickering. Will the system continue to withstand these shocks? Is there anything more massive on the horizon?

    Stay tuned.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @tyrone, @DCThrowback, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @Kratoklastes

    The 1916 Easter Rising at the Dublin GPO was viewed with contempt by most Irishmen, who had grown tired of firebrands, and thought James Connolly was a lunatic. That is, until the British overplayed their hand in reaction, and began committing outrages and atrocities in response, which swayed Irish public opinion in the opposite direction. Which produced Michael Collins, which produced the Republic.

    • Thanks: Hibernian
  35. @Reg Cæsar

    Westfield State University is a public university in Westfield, Massachusetts. It was founded in 1838 by Horace Mann as the first public co-educational college in America without barrier to race, gender, or economic class.
     
    Westfield State University = Is Ivy-attuned leftist sewer.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @ScarletNumber

    Splendid.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  36. @The Last Real Calvinist
    Steve, I think the lockdown's enspice-ificating your prose style. You haven't put out this kind of high-end snark in a while. I especially enjoyed 'Westfield State, which is somewhere or other'.

    BTW, I work in higher ed, actively keep up with higher ed in the USA, have just gone through two years of doing college admissions stuff for Daughter C -- and I'd never come across the name 'Westfield State'. I wish its students and alumni well. I know what it's like to be graduated from an institution whose name sounds like a google maps glitch.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Ganderson

    Agreed: this was a fun piece, however brief.

    She gives me the impression of being a 110 IQ person who has, over grinding years of delivering boring workshops on diversity, learned how to manipulate the emotions of 100 IQ women.

    It strikes me that to some degree this constitutes the remit of the mass media.

  37. @JohnnyWalker123
    @JohnnyWalker123

    What happened to Buzz Mohawk's comment that I was replying to?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Bardon Kaldian

    I see that, and I don’t know what happened. What was the gist of the comment?

    I wrote and then deleted a stupid reply to your reply, something about kiwi birds, New Zealanders and shoe polish, but I deleted that. That does not explain what happened, though, because it was a reply to what you wrote.

    What were you replying to? Thank you, BTW, for your thoughtful comment. I definitely understand your points.

    Summing it up: Anti-White-ism is a very big problem. Nobody is taking it seriously except those of us who might be accused by the masses of being whatever they want to call us. Personally, I think we have crossed a Rubicon, and I feel sorry for younger White people. In fact, I feel sorry for all others too, because they will be caught up in what will happen after I am dead. The White people of the world, including those kiwis in New Zealand, BTW, are a sleeping giant, and when they wake up, all Hell will break loose. I just hope that after that, when they settle the score, they never again forget.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Buzz Mohawk


    I see that, and I don’t know what happened. What was the gist of the comment?

     

    I remember you said something about Kiwis. You also said that Steve Sailer had been addressing these issues for years.

    I wrote and then deleted a stupid reply to your reply, something about kiwi birds, New Zealanders and shoe polish, but I deleted that. That does not explain what happened, though, because it was a reply to what you wrote.

     

    So I replied to you replying to me.

    I think that when we post our comments, somehow they're sometimes visible before the timer expires.

    That'd explain why you saw my first post (which I later edited/deleted). Then you responded, which I saw and replied to with an edited version of the original comment. Then your response was deleted because the timer hadn't expired. So I'm basically responding to a comment deleted before the timer expired.

    LOL. Sort of interesting.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

  38. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @R.G. Camara
    @utu

    Even two years into Trump's first term McWhorter was insisting Trump was dumb and had simply blundered into the job. Imagine being so envious and stupid as to assert that. TDS is real, folks.

    In the same breath he was bad mouthing Tennessee Coates for being a mediocre intellectual raised up by white lefties precisely because he had no nuance or depth. Now, I happen to agree with McWhorter's assessment, but it was sour grapes on his part, since he'd never been elevated that high and was clearly jealous, and McWhorter's never written anything memorable himself. Ivory tower hissy fit by one pet against a new favorite.

    The affirmative action hire can rot.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous

    “I happen to agree with McWhorter’s assessment, but it was sour grapes on his part, since he’d never been elevated that high and was clearly jealous, and McWhorter’s never written anything memorable himself.”

  39. Anyway, Steve is commenting on some worthless bitch & not the other way around.

    In virtually all areas, as I’ve said, to become someone, you have to have talents in that area (in others, you may be fool or mediocre). You must be a real deal, whether this is exact sciences, arts, literature, entertainment, business, politics,….
    To achieve prominence you have to have specific gifts that go way beyond self-promotion & nonsense talking.

    Juan Maldacena, Terrence Malick, even George Clooney, Cormac McCarthy, Michael Phelps, Charles Murray, Bill Gates, Henry Kissinger, Robert Langlands, Itzhak Perlman, Hans Kung,Joseph Stiglitz, Ronaldo, ….

    But only in the area of “punditry” & media pollution you can meet prominent people who are idiots, completely bonkers re their own areas of “expertise” or unbelievably stupid.

    This is the only field where absolute fakers without any specific gift can be prominent, famous, influential…

    • Agree: Seneca44
    • Replies: @Anonymousse
    @Bardon Kaldian


    In virtually all areas, as I’ve said, to become someone, you have to have talents in that area (in others, you may be fool or mediocre). You must be a real deal, whether this is exact sciences, arts, literature, entertainment, business, politics,….
     
    Either you haven’t been in business or our definition of “talent” differs significantly.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  40. @Anonymous
    Related: Twitter is noticing the unmistakable pattern of woke chicks of color mating with white guys.

    They are meming the usual suspects from The Squad etc.

    https://www.revolver.news/2020/07/woke-women-dating-white-men/


    But foxnews has a pic up of Obama flunky Susan Rice next to a pic of her son and he's ... wait for it ... a white guy.

    HAHAHAHAHA

    It's a good article by foxnews standards and Rice sounds like a flag waving Reaganite by the end of a long explanation of relating to her conservative (white) son.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/susan-rice-trump-supporting-son

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Kent Nationalist, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Steve in Greensboro

    Their anti-whiteness is because they love white men but hate the competition (white women).

  41. @Anon55uu
    Interestingly no comment in here about her publisher Beacon Press, which is owned by the Unitarian Universalist Association. Beacon previously most famously published the Pentagon Papers in 1971. The terminology of “white supremacy” etc swept through the UUA denomination pretty quickly, a few years ahead of George Floyd, with various “open letters”, denunciation of heretics, etc such that it’s almost become a new religion of anti-racism. A far cry from the Brahmin religion of, say, Nixon and Ford cabinet member Elliott Richardson 50 years earlier.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @duncsbaby, @Paco Wové, @Peter D. Bredon, @SolontoCroesus, @SunBakedSuburb, @Kronos, @Dumbo, @Hibernian

    Yours is a significant comment, and it relates to what I wrote later, namely, who is promoting this crap.

  42. @black sea
    At the "prole depths of lowbrow academia," most people are working in a no-benefits, no-career-track gig economy that bears a much greater resemblance to being a line cook at Applebee's than anything one might associate with the life of the mind.

    As middle age dampened the fires of her wanderlust (carnal and nomadic) she landed a tolerable hubby and found a side-hustle that works for her, which says something for her resourcefulness. It's probably not too taxing -- apart from the travel and the book signings -- but the speaking fees are generous and the royalty checks keep rolling in as legions of her fellow cubicle drones are bullied into buying her books, in order to satisfy the Stasi in HR.

    The American Dream -- circa 2020.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @Coemgen, @Muggles

    At the “prole depths of lowbrow academia,” most people are working in a no-benefits, no-career-track gig economy that bears a much greater resemblance to being a line cook at Applebee’s than anything one might associate with the life of the mind.

    Except that being a line cook at Applebee’s pays better.

    • Agree: JackOH
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Dr. X

    Our local business paper had an article which mentioned that 60% of the teachers at the regional university could make a maximum of $18,900 a year.

    Replies: @Dr. X

  43. anonymous[395] • Disclaimer says:

    You come off as resentful towards her success because you have the same inferiority complex from a life of middling achievement. Rice University undergrad, UCLA MBA (OK but middling schools), small marketing firm after MBA. You never made it big as a writer or journalist. And you have been a blogger for almost the last 20 years. Nothing spectacular, nothing too depressing but you had great expectations for yourself so I’m sure the overall trajectory of your life is depressing.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    Actually, I've rather exceeded my modest expectations for myself. That I've turned out to be the most insightful intellectual of my time is not something I ever anticipated. It's rather alarming, in fact...

    Replies: @TheBoom, @JackOH, @the one they call Desanex, @PiltdownMan, @Colin Wright, @JackOH, @Prof. Woland

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @anonymous

    Actually- this is a good post (because of its malice & stupidity). It should be dissected, just for fun...

    1. what is success? And does it matter, basically? Of course Van Gogh was not successful by any standards. But- he knew his worth. When you have this kind of power in your hands, you know you have divine gifts, and even if your life ends in tragedy, it wasn't a waste. Semmelweis,...

    2. what if you are moderately successful, but you know others are simply better? Or you are not getting recognition you think you deserve? Salieri-Mozart, Schopenhauer-Hegel, Wallace-Darwin, ...
    It depends in your world-view, destiny, morality,...

    3. what if you know you're gifted, but limited? For instance, many good authors were frustrated because they thought they should write epics or novels, and they wrote something they deemed marginal (Voltaire, ..). Or, instead of being Michelangelo, you turn out to be Cellini. It depends...

    4. and what when you achieve fame, but you know you're, essentially, 2nd rate, like Norman Mailer or Gore Vidal?

    Why just not enjoy the business of living? To sound like a 60s Zen hippie: don't do, just be.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon

    , @ben tillman
    @anonymous


    You come off as resentful towards her success because you have the same inferiority complex from a life of middling achievement. Rice University undergrad, UCLA MBA (OK but middling schools) . . . .
     
    Rice is WAY above "middling".

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

  44. @Anonymous
    Related: Twitter is noticing the unmistakable pattern of woke chicks of color mating with white guys.

    They are meming the usual suspects from The Squad etc.

    https://www.revolver.news/2020/07/woke-women-dating-white-men/


    But foxnews has a pic up of Obama flunky Susan Rice next to a pic of her son and he's ... wait for it ... a white guy.

    HAHAHAHAHA

    It's a good article by foxnews standards and Rice sounds like a flag waving Reaganite by the end of a long explanation of relating to her conservative (white) son.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/susan-rice-trump-supporting-son

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Kent Nationalist, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Steve in Greensboro

    Related: Twitter is noticing the unmistakable pattern of woke chicks of color mating with white guys.

    Indeed:

    • LOL: DCThrowback
    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Don't get too cocky about this. It's more likely that there's an increasing uptick in black guys hoovering up all the hot White chicks, so White guys and Woke Chicks of Color are kind of stuck with each other.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

  45. Steve observes:

    Butler is famous/notorious for an opaque prose style that is catnip to grad students while impenetrable to civilians

    In the bio, we note:

    transferring to Yale University, where she studied philosophy

    There you have it; Philosophy departments, where dreams of clear-headed thinking go to die.

  46. @anonymous
    You come off as resentful towards her success because you have the same inferiority complex from a life of middling achievement. Rice University undergrad, UCLA MBA (OK but middling schools), small marketing firm after MBA. You never made it big as a writer or journalist. And you have been a blogger for almost the last 20 years. Nothing spectacular, nothing too depressing but you had great expectations for yourself so I'm sure the overall trajectory of your life is depressing.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @ben tillman

    Actually, I’ve rather exceeded my modest expectations for myself. That I’ve turned out to be the most insightful intellectual of my time is not something I ever anticipated. It’s rather alarming, in fact…

    • Thanks: Cloudbuster, Redman
    • Replies: @TheBoom
    @Steve Sailer

    "I’ve turned out to be the most insightful intellectual of my time is not something I ever anticipated"

    I beg your pardon - second most insightful.

    , @JackOH
    @Steve Sailer

    Steve, your humility becomes you, of course, and your disdain for the riches of this world just plain admirable, sensei. Seriously, don't you have a victim card to play? Y'know, what with all your fund-raising, haven't you thought of tapping public and private grants to set yourself up as curator at the world's first Legacy Whites Museum? Maybe set the mulatto schoolkids atwitter by saying knowingly some people believe Homo sapiens is Ebonics for Honky sap.

    DiAngelo looks younger than 64, but there are a very few fit, small-boned women who can maintain good looks and appear a decade or more younger than their actual age without work.

    That dig about "prole depths" is real stuff. I've scratched my head big-time over why a Ph. D. with no hope of tenure continues to spin his wheels as a permanent adjunct at $30 grand annually at, say, a no-name community college. Still baffles me. The only thing I've come up with is the psychic rewards are enormous, and, likewise, the psychic vesting in the honorific. (Trustees and state legislatures seem to know that, too)

    Ms. DiAngelo did hit the smalltime academic's jackpot with a zinger phrase and a flavor-of-the-month best-seller.

    , @the one they call Desanex
    @Steve Sailer

    I’m too insightful for my shirt
    Too insightful for my shirt
    So insightful it hurts!

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Steve Sailer


    Actually, I’ve rather exceeded my modest expectations for myself. That I’ve turned out to be the most insightful intellectual of my time is not something I ever anticipated. It’s rather alarming, in fact…
     
    I wish to tag that comment with a "LOL" and an "AGREE" tag.
    , @Colin Wright
    @Steve Sailer

    'Actually, I’ve rather exceeded my modest expectations for myself. That I’ve turned out to be the most insightful intellectual of my time is not something I ever anticipated. It’s rather alarming, in fact…'

    There is more than one way of looking at it.

    , @JackOH
    @Steve Sailer

    Your writing reads like great source material for a gutsy stand-up guy willing to cultivate a sort of White Richard Pryor routine.

    (I'm definitely not in the entertainment business, but I think there'd be some mileage in working why Black History Month is the shortest month of the year. What's up with that extra day every four years? Etc. Just a thought.)

    , @Prof. Woland
    @Steve Sailer

    I think the comparison between Steve and DiAngelo is an apt one. On one hand you have someone who pursued the truth and paid a very dear price with his career v. someone who sold out for her daily mess of pottage. The fact that her book sold copies has nothing to do with it being any good; she just exploited the never ending subsidized market for white hating self-loathing material and then got lucky.

  47. @Reg Cæsar

    That’s just your White Fragility talking.
     
    White fragility = Fig with reality.

    Wun Tsun Tam Mellon Visiting Professor of the Humanities
     
    That sounds like a question you might get walking through the back alleys of Macau.

    http://www.aworldofflophouses.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Macau_back_alleys_DSC2341_HDR_header.jpg


    Or from the desk clerk at one of the hostels in Chungking Mansions.


    https://c8.alamy.com/comp/E1G9GN/guesthouse-signs-inside-chungking-mansions-hong-kong-E1G9GN.jpg

    Here is a later Wun Tsum Tam Mellon professor:


    Poet, Author and Professor Elizabeth Alexander Named to Pulitzer Prize Board
    BY GOODBLACKNEWS ON JUNE 1, 2016

    Evidently there is Good Black News.

    Replies: @Captain Tripps

    I saw “Wun Tsum Tam” and immediately thought “Wu Tang Clan”.

    • Replies: @captflee
    @Captain Tripps

    Looks like one of the fake pilot names from KTVU's Asiana crash reporting to me, but I am a rather notorious badthinker. Still, the best possible fake name tag I ever espied was long ago on the awe inspiring decollettage of a breathtakingly beautiful teen working at a Dairy Queen in a dreary eastern NC farm town; it read, "Iwanna". Lord knows, I did.

  48. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Mr. Anon

    Isaias knocked down a lot of trees, taking out power lines. We've been on our generator for 37 hours now...

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Captain Tripps, @captflee, @Redman, @Mr. Anon

    Fortunately, our power lines are buried, so not even a flicker as the storm came through.

  49. @black sea
    At the "prole depths of lowbrow academia," most people are working in a no-benefits, no-career-track gig economy that bears a much greater resemblance to being a line cook at Applebee's than anything one might associate with the life of the mind.

    As middle age dampened the fires of her wanderlust (carnal and nomadic) she landed a tolerable hubby and found a side-hustle that works for her, which says something for her resourcefulness. It's probably not too taxing -- apart from the travel and the book signings -- but the speaking fees are generous and the royalty checks keep rolling in as legions of her fellow cubicle drones are bullied into buying her books, in order to satisfy the Stasi in HR.

    The American Dream -- circa 2020.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @Coemgen, @Muggles

    At the “prole depths of lowbrow academia,” most people are working in a no-benefits, no-career-track gig economy that bears a much greater resemblance to being a line cook at Applebee’s than anything one might associate with the life of the mind.

    This usage of gig is a euphemism for “day laborer.”

  50. @utu
    It seems that John McWhorter also is being eaten by envy. Envy, the only deadly sin that gives no pleasure.

    The Dehumanizing Condescension of White Fragility: The popular book aims to combat racism but talks down to Black people by John Mcwhorter
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/dehumanizing-condescension-white-fragility/614146/

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Not Only Wrathful, @Redman, @3g4me

    It is hardly envy to be angry with some ignorant nobody declaring that you, because of your dark skin, have no agency.

  51. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Anonymous


    Related: Twitter is noticing the unmistakable pattern of woke chicks of color mating with white guys.

     

    Indeed:

    https://twitter.com/Juche_Gamer/status/1290996626975330304?s=20

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Don’t get too cocky about this. It’s more likely that there’s an increasing uptick in black guys hoovering up all the hot White chicks, so White guys and Woke Chicks of Color are kind of stuck with each other.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Don’t get too cocky about this.
     
    Quite.

    I merely hope that, in this individual case, the young man is regularly going full Raj and then some on the young lady.
  52. She gives me the impression of being a 110 IQ person who has, over grinding years of delivering boring workshops on diversity, learned how to manipulate the emotions of 100 IQ women.

    Pre-Hitler head of the Wehrmacht, General Freiherr Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord’s timeless advice comes to my mind: Beware of industriuos half-wits – they can do lots of harm and be the root cause of myriads of useless – if not dangerous – activities.

    • Replies: @black sea
    @Dieter Kief


    “I divide my officers into four classes as follows: The clever, the industrious, the lazy, and the stupid. Each officer always possesses two of these qualities.

    Those who are clever and industrious I appoint to the General Staff. Use can under certain circumstances be made of those who are stupid and lazy. The man who is clever and lazy qualifies for the highest leadership posts. He has the requisite nerves and the mental clarity for difficult decisions. But whoever is stupid and industrious must be got rid of, for he is too dangerous.”
     
    --Same Guy
  53. @International Jew

    the prole depths of the most lowbrow academia
     
    LOL.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @JimDandy, @Anonymous

    Yeah, that was pretty good.

  54. @JohnnyWalker123
    Incentives matter.

    Let's say that the ruling class embraces the religion of "Kiwi-ism." This religion involves worship of kiwis, which are morally superior to all the other types of fruits.

    Let's say the ruling class decides to give lucrative careers to people who can speak articulately about their love of kiwis. Pro-kiwi individuals see their careers advance rapidly in the media, academia, government, and the corporate world. Embracing kiwis seems to be a path to prosperity. Meanwhile, pro-Mango individuals often get harassed and demeaned, sometimes even fired.

    Let's say pro-kiwi activists often get carried away, often attacking Mango farmers and setting fire to their fields. Sometimes pro-kiwi social media sites ban accounts that defend mangos too aggressively.

    In this type of society, which fruit do you think will sell better? The kiwi or the mango?

    Which fruit will artists paint? Which fruit will poets write about? Which fruit will people dress up as for Halloween? Which fruit will get subsidized by our govt?

    In the West, the ruling class has access to tremendous wealth and powerful, well-functioning institutions. If you embrace their ideologies, they can enrich you significantly. If you reject their propaganda, they can ruin you financially and socially.

    In today's West, attacking Whites is a path to respectability. If you're trying to climb the career ladder or launch a media/literary/entertainment career, attacking Whites will give you a leg up on the competition.
    Sometimes you can create a lucrative full-time job in which your sole task is to write about the flaws of White people. Nice work if you can get it.

    Defending Whites, on the other hand, is a path to poverty. Nobody will hire you for anything. People will keep their distance from you. You'll be a pariah.

    Being anti-White is a competitive advantage in today's America. That's why anti-Whiteism is the strongest in careers, educational institutions, and regions which are known for being highly competitive to begin with.

    Sure, the majority of Whites don't like this.

    However, today's Whites inhabit a highly atomized social milieu, in which extreme individualism precludes any type of large-scale group action. So it's tough to fight the ruling class...... As for "voting out the bums," that doesn't work either. Not when both parties are controlled opposition, with sham elections giving people the choice of Coke V.S. Pepsi. So that won't work.

    When you get down to it, there's not much that Whites can do. Other than grumble on Twitter, Facebook, and the Breitbart comment section.

    Anti-Whiteism is actually in a more fragile position than Communism was during the Soviet era. At least Communism was popular with the working-class masses for a while. Anti-Whiteism has never had much of a constituency, other than Blacks and Jews. White Conservatives&Moderates hate it. White Liberals may tolerate it, but they're not that excited.

    I suppose that's why our rulers are so obsessed with importing huge numbers of foreign immigrants and teaching them that Whites disrespected their ancestors. Our rulers figure that if they can change the demographics of Western countries and encourage the new diverse "Americans" to dislike Whites, then Anti-Whiteism will stand on more solid ground.

    The current social order will continue until one of the following happens.

    1. There's a massive economic or military catastrophe, leading to the collapse of the ruling class. If this happens, then anti-Whiteism will collapse as quickly as Communism did after the Soviet Union fell apart. When the population doesn't really believe in the state's ideology, then it fades once the rulers are gone.

    2. Whites get squeezed hard enough and get really angry, but have nowhere to run and nothing left to lose. So they begin to organically coalesce together. At that point, they could begin to fight back and retake their country. If you want to understand what this might look like, study the Reconstruction era in the post-Civil War South.

    I could think of plausible scenarios in which both happen.

    The continuity of Anti-Whiteism is contingent on the continuation of the current economic&social order. If a major shock causes the current order to collapse, then everything could change very quickly. At that point, life could get very interesting for all of us.

    Right now, the system is being shocked by the COVID recession, massive deficit spending, BLM/Anti-Fa turmoil, and political bickering. Will the system continue to withstand these shocks? Is there anything more massive on the horizon?

    Stay tuned.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @tyrone, @DCThrowback, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @Kratoklastes

    How about electing a president with Alzheimers………horizon? no, we’re about to hit a reef.

  55. The warning on Wikipedia about the Westfield State article reading like an advertisement is spot on. Nobody WANTS to attend Westfield State.

    DiAngelo had to suffer through the soul-deadening task of professing to C students, because they couldn’t get into real colleges, paying too much for what is essentially a community college education.

    In other words, she was right in her intellectual wheelhouse!

  56. Anon[306] • Disclaimer says:

    I dropped by hubby’s blog to spider it before it disappeared … but it’s already gone.

    I hope Hail did this before he hit Publish. He seems thorough (checking online property records, etc.), and he writes in a relatively libel-resistant manner (stating facts over generalizations, and stating opinions as explicit opinions), so I don’t think DiAngelo’s attorneys can get far with him, but the more primary source material he has on his local hard disks (screenshots, web archives, etc.), the better off he is. Ironically, and luckily for Hail, a DMCA copyright takedown demand to his ISP will be harder to issue for original material no longer live on the web.

  57. “To call her an “academic,” for instance, gives the wrong impression because she’s from the prole depths of the most lowbrow academia.”

    This seems to validate one of your commenter’s spot on observation that we are determined to relive the sixties but this time led by the community college kids.

  58. In addition, she joined the department of English and Comparative Literature at Columbia University as Wun Tsun Tam Mellon Visiting Professor

    You must be kidding.

  59. But if we take her at her word that she will turn 64 in September ….

    Could always be garden-variety Social Security fraud.

  60. Anon[283] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Are there any anti-precious metals shills who used to post on here willing to relent at this point, when gold is up 16 percent on the MONTH and silver is up 57 percent on the MONTH? Is there a high correlation between mask wearing/being a pussy, plus talking shit about precious metals when they could have been making easy money just by shutting their damn mouths? (Cf., LOTB)

  61. @JohnnyWalker123
    @JohnnyWalker123

    What happened to Buzz Mohawk's comment that I was replying to?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @Bardon Kaldian

    Mohawk got tomahawked.

  62. But if we take her at her word that she will turn 64 in September

    This seems like her real age. I looked at Intelius and Mylife, which seem to work off credit histories and they confirm this number.

  63. Westfield State is not a joke. It’s a real college that has been around since 1838 and was founded by Horace Mann himself. Horace Mann was the man who was most responsible for advancing the idea of free, non-sectarian “public school” for everyone – male and female, black and white. Americans take the idea of free universal elementary and high school for granted as if it had always existed (and not even right wingers consider it to be “socialist”) but it might not have existed (or become popular only decades later) if not for Mann.

    Anyway, Mann’s idea required a large force of trained teachers who did not exist so one aspect of it was the creation of dozens of public “normal schools” to train teachers. Normal is a word borrowed from the French and in this context it means to The term “normal”refers to the goal of these institutions to teach certain norms to their students. Westfield State started out as Westfield Normal School. Many such places eventually changed their name to “X Teacher’s College” as the word Normal went out of fashion.

    Teacher’s Colleges were modest places with modest goals – to train a workforce of mostly females to teach mostly elementary school. Blue collar daughters might become the first to receive higher education in their families is such a school (these places charged tuition but it was modest and state subsidized). Only in the post World War II education boom did these places start pretending to be real Universities and renamed themselves and changed their goals accordingly.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Jack D

    I checked their website, and they brag about their students getting in-dorm network access a few months before MIT students got it. Still, it's a state teacher's college, and very few of these are anything to write home about. In Iowa, where I grew up, there was only one, in contrast to to other states, including smaller ones. Iowa's was called the University of Northern Iowa. It was not bad, but universally recognized to be not as good as the two co-flagship state Us in Iowa, Iowa, and Iowa State (my alma mater.) In Chicago, Chicago State University is a total disaster, and Northeastern Illinois University is nothing to write home about.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    ...as the word Normal went out of fashion.
     
    It certainly has in 2020!

    Horace Mann was the man who was most responsible for advancing the idea...
     
    Which he got from Prussia.

    Mann’s idea required a large force...
     
    That's the problem. We need a thousand points of light, not


    https://libcom.org/files/images/blog/C_71_article_1408592_image_list_image_list_item_1_image%20(1).jpg

    Replies: @JackOH

    , @prosa123
    @Jack D

    Many former normal schools are today known as directional colleges, in other words they have a compass direction or some variation thereof in their names. Two examples given in this thread are University of Northern Iowa and Northeastern Illinois State University. Some have changed their names more than once. A particularly amusing example is Central Connecticut State University, founded before the Civil War as State Normal School, renamed Connecticut State Teachers' College in the 1920's, Central Connecticut State College in 1950, and finally its present name in 1983; at the time of the last renaming there were still quite a few people around who had graduated when it was still the State Normal School.

    Other hints on college names: in many states, University of [state] is the flagship university while [state] State University is the land grant. Iowa, Michigan, Kansas and North Carolina are examples. In some Southern states, such as South Carolina and Alabama, [state] State University are HBCU's; the land grants in those two states are Clemson and Auburn, respectively. Indiana is another unusual case, as Indiana State University is the former normal school, not the land grant (which is Purdue).

    Replies: @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang

    , @Uncle Jack
    @Jack D

    Westfield State has an extraordinary record of scandals (financial, sexual) resulting
    in the resignations of its presidents. Look up Dobelle, Buchen, Pilecki.

  64. Raymond Carver wrote from Port Angeles. This chick would have hated PA.

  65. Its funny as a sat through my HR mandated ‘Unconscious Bias’ training last year which was run by an external company. I went in ready to have some fun but the entire performance was just so deeply tedious I couldn’t be bothered. The two people running (sorry ‘delivering’) the course were clearly just reading out a script written by someone else. To make things worse the script has obviously been chopped and changed over the years to the extent it contained gaps and didn’t flow let alone make any logical sense.

    As I sat there counting down the minutes I was wondering what the background was of these people and what life failures and disappointments had led them to this point.

  66. She’s like a televangelist for the modern era. Which is perfect, considering Multiculturalism is now our new official state religion – perhaps the dumbest, most insane religion ever – and White Privilege its original sin.

  67. Getting rich at 62 is not that great. For most of her life she probably drove cheap autos and did not travel overseas.
    It’s harder to enjoy money in one’s sixties – a lot of people have health problems at that point and become fatigued easily.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Undocumented Shopper


    It’s harder to enjoy money in one’s sixties
     
    Harder still is to enjoy poverty
  68. @Anonymous
    Related: Twitter is noticing the unmistakable pattern of woke chicks of color mating with white guys.

    They are meming the usual suspects from The Squad etc.

    https://www.revolver.news/2020/07/woke-women-dating-white-men/


    But foxnews has a pic up of Obama flunky Susan Rice next to a pic of her son and he's ... wait for it ... a white guy.

    HAHAHAHAHA

    It's a good article by foxnews standards and Rice sounds like a flag waving Reaganite by the end of a long explanation of relating to her conservative (white) son.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/susan-rice-trump-supporting-son

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Kent Nationalist, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Steve in Greensboro

    Hypergamy is only a surprise to people who haven’t been paying attention.

  69. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    Actually, I've rather exceeded my modest expectations for myself. That I've turned out to be the most insightful intellectual of my time is not something I ever anticipated. It's rather alarming, in fact...

    Replies: @TheBoom, @JackOH, @the one they call Desanex, @PiltdownMan, @Colin Wright, @JackOH, @Prof. Woland

    “I’ve turned out to be the most insightful intellectual of my time is not something I ever anticipated”

    I beg your pardon – second most insightful.

  70. @Dr. X
    @black sea


    At the “prole depths of lowbrow academia,” most people are working in a no-benefits, no-career-track gig economy that bears a much greater resemblance to being a line cook at Applebee’s than anything one might associate with the life of the mind.
     
    Except that being a line cook at Applebee's pays better.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    Our local business paper had an article which mentioned that 60% of the teachers at the regional university could make a maximum of $18,900 a year.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @Redneck farmer

    I made $7800 per semester teaching four classes (the maximum for an adjunct, an 80% teaching load) at my last "academic" job in 2019.

  71. @Altai
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZfiSjTHVqA

    No mention of DiAngelo is complete without this clip of lockdown Jimmy Fallon quickly making up for the blackface clip that went viral after 20 years. Look at his face, look at her face.

    She's got those crazy eyes and a constant smirk. That's what a lot of these types have. Call it cluster B face.

    Replies: @Steve in Greensboro, @James O'Meara, @SunBakedSuburb, @anon

    I took a dramamine and tried to listen to these two blather on. I only got so far as to hear her say: “…that’s how big an a-holes (Whites) are…”

    Progressives project. They tell you what they think of themselves by what they accuse you of. They tell you what they are planning by what they say you are planning. What a contemptible group.,

  72. I find attractive White men being willing to be with women who express hatred towards the White race to be depressing. I live in Eastern Asia and prefer Asian women but would never be with one who publicly expressed hatred of white people

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @TheBoom

    Women are muddleheads who don't know what they're saying.

    Replies: @throtler

  73. @anonymous
    You come off as resentful towards her success because you have the same inferiority complex from a life of middling achievement. Rice University undergrad, UCLA MBA (OK but middling schools), small marketing firm after MBA. You never made it big as a writer or journalist. And you have been a blogger for almost the last 20 years. Nothing spectacular, nothing too depressing but you had great expectations for yourself so I'm sure the overall trajectory of your life is depressing.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @ben tillman

    Actually- this is a good post (because of its malice & stupidity). It should be dissected, just for fun…

    1. what is success? And does it matter, basically? Of course Van Gogh was not successful by any standards. But- he knew his worth. When you have this kind of power in your hands, you know you have divine gifts, and even if your life ends in tragedy, it wasn’t a waste. Semmelweis,…

    2. what if you are moderately successful, but you know others are simply better? Or you are not getting recognition you think you deserve? Salieri-Mozart, Schopenhauer-Hegel, Wallace-Darwin, …
    It depends in your world-view, destiny, morality,…

    3. what if you know you’re gifted, but limited? For instance, many good authors were frustrated because they thought they should write epics or novels, and they wrote something they deemed marginal (Voltaire, ..). Or, instead of being Michelangelo, you turn out to be Cellini. It depends…

    4. and what when you achieve fame, but you know you’re, essentially, 2nd rate, like Norman Mailer or Gore Vidal?

    Why just not enjoy the business of living? To sound like a 60s Zen hippie: don’t do, just be.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Yes, but Sailer was harsh, when he demeaned Robin DeAngelo career. How many phds will have the opportunity to be at least professors? The vast majority of people don't even have a carreer.

    , @Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Sailer got a dose of his own medicine from anonymous’ post. Did the medicine consist of malice and stupidity? I thought it was just snark.

  74. @Dieter Kief

    She gives me the impression of being a 110 IQ person who has, over grinding years of delivering boring workshops on diversity, learned how to manipulate the emotions of 100 IQ women.
     
    Pre-Hitler head of the Wehrmacht, General Freiherr Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord's timeless advice comes to my mind: Beware of industriuos half-wits - they can do lots of harm and be the root cause of myriads of useless - if not dangerous - activities.

    Replies: @black sea

    “I divide my officers into four classes as follows: The clever, the industrious, the lazy, and the stupid. Each officer always possesses two of these qualities.

    Those who are clever and industrious I appoint to the General Staff. Use can under certain circumstances be made of those who are stupid and lazy. The man who is clever and lazy qualifies for the highest leadership posts. He has the requisite nerves and the mental clarity for difficult decisions. But whoever is stupid and industrious must be got rid of, for he is too dangerous.”

    –Same Guy

  75. DiAngelo is around the same age as Steve, no? And overnight she became a multi-millionaire and bestseller. Maybe there is hope for Steve yet.

    She may be a dingbat, but I find the fact of her age inspiring. I am myself middle aged now, and had resigned myself to spending the remainder of my life in decline. But I look at the world these days and keep seeing a different picture.

    Diangelo rose from relative obscurity in her late 50s to become a smash sensation at age 64, the age when most people retire. The democrat stage was stacked with candidates in their prime, and at the end the fight was between two 78 year olds, who will run against a 74 year old. We entered a world-changing pandemic, and the man to rise to international prominence more than any other is 79 yr old Dr. Fauci.

    I don’t like all these people. I don’t agree with most of them. But they show me that it’s not over till it’s over. And even late in life, it’s possible to become something far more than you were in the first half.

  76. Evolutionary psychoanalysis of DiAngelo’s catch-phrase “white fragility” exposes why it is worth a zillion dollars:

    In the environment of evolutionary adaptedness a male when presented with a female who denounces his character (e.g. during “diversity training”) would defend his moral territory with the back of his hand, not because he is “fragile” but because she needs to be punished and he’s giving her what she needs. Indeed, he’s giving her what she is asking for in the “shit-test” sense: “Do you have the qualities that I, the keeper of my womb, might want in the father of my sons?” If, rather than giving her the back of his hand, he merely complains, he’s showing weakness to her hind brain — weakness hence “fragility”. Everyone ineffably gets this but only on a hind brain level, hence the reaction is to further taunt the “beta male” to drive him out of the presence of fertile females.

    This pattern exists because whites are relatively individualistic hence have no group defenses.

    Civilization is a shit test of white men.

  77. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    Actually, I've rather exceeded my modest expectations for myself. That I've turned out to be the most insightful intellectual of my time is not something I ever anticipated. It's rather alarming, in fact...

    Replies: @TheBoom, @JackOH, @the one they call Desanex, @PiltdownMan, @Colin Wright, @JackOH, @Prof. Woland

    Steve, your humility becomes you, of course, and your disdain for the riches of this world just plain admirable, sensei. Seriously, don’t you have a victim card to play? Y’know, what with all your fund-raising, haven’t you thought of tapping public and private grants to set yourself up as curator at the world’s first Legacy Whites Museum? Maybe set the mulatto schoolkids atwitter by saying knowingly some people believe Homo sapiens is Ebonics for Honky sap.

    DiAngelo looks younger than 64, but there are a very few fit, small-boned women who can maintain good looks and appear a decade or more younger than their actual age without work.

    That dig about “prole depths” is real stuff. I’ve scratched my head big-time over why a Ph. D. with no hope of tenure continues to spin his wheels as a permanent adjunct at $30 grand annually at, say, a no-name community college. Still baffles me. The only thing I’ve come up with is the psychic rewards are enormous, and, likewise, the psychic vesting in the honorific. (Trustees and state legislatures seem to know that, too)

    Ms. DiAngelo did hit the smalltime academic’s jackpot with a zinger phrase and a flavor-of-the-month best-seller.

  78. @Jack D
    Westfield State is not a joke. It's a real college that has been around since 1838 and was founded by Horace Mann himself. Horace Mann was the man who was most responsible for advancing the idea of free, non-sectarian "public school" for everyone - male and female, black and white. Americans take the idea of free universal elementary and high school for granted as if it had always existed (and not even right wingers consider it to be "socialist") but it might not have existed (or become popular only decades later) if not for Mann.

    Anyway, Mann's idea required a large force of trained teachers who did not exist so one aspect of it was the creation of dozens of public "normal schools" to train teachers. Normal is a word borrowed from the French and in this context it means to The term "normal"refers to the goal of these institutions to teach certain norms to their students. Westfield State started out as Westfield Normal School. Many such places eventually changed their name to "X Teacher's College" as the word Normal went out of fashion.

    Teacher's Colleges were modest places with modest goals - to train a workforce of mostly females to teach mostly elementary school. Blue collar daughters might become the first to receive higher education in their families is such a school (these places charged tuition but it was modest and state subsidized). Only in the post World War II education boom did these places start pretending to be real Universities and renamed themselves and changed their goals accordingly.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Reg Cæsar, @prosa123, @Uncle Jack

    I checked their website, and they brag about their students getting in-dorm network access a few months before MIT students got it. Still, it’s a state teacher’s college, and very few of these are anything to write home about. In Iowa, where I grew up, there was only one, in contrast to to other states, including smaller ones. Iowa’s was called the University of Northern Iowa. It was not bad, but universally recognized to be not as good as the two co-flagship state Us in Iowa, Iowa, and Iowa State (my alma mater.) In Chicago, Chicago State University is a total disaster, and Northeastern Illinois University is nothing to write home about.

  79. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Mr. Anon

    Isaias knocked down a lot of trees, taking out power lines. We've been on our generator for 37 hours now...

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Captain Tripps, @captflee, @Redman, @Mr. Anon

    Wow, Buzz…

    37 hours! Hell, I’m maybe a half hour’s drive from landfall, and we were back up within a dozen hours. You have my sympathy, and best wishes for rapid restoration.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @captflee

    Thanks.

    53 Hours and counting...

    The Generac is purring like a kitten, fueled by the house's natural gas line. I'm checking her every 24. The oil is still full up and looks clean on the dipstick. If we get to 100 hours, I'll change that and the filter, per the manual, and check the spark plug. Normally I do those things once a year when it's just been on standby the whole time.

    The longest run it has done previously was for three days after some other tropical storm. The news is things may take longer this time. Nobody is happy with the power companies right now. They talked big talk after Hurricane Sandy; in the years since, they've claimed to have crews out trimming trees around their wires to reduce exactly this sort of thing.

    This was not a big storm, but somehow it found all those trees they said they were cutting, and it knocked them all down on their lines. Repairs are moving at a snail's pace.

    And here in Connecticut we pay some of the highest rates in America for our electricity.

  80. who publishes a garrulous, rather likable blog about his life

    Did I miss the link?

  81. IIRC, she has a child by her 1st marriage. Her current husband is her 2d husband.

    I wouldn’t take her account of her upbringing at face value.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Art Deco


    IIRC, she has a child by her 1st marriage. Her current husband is her 2d husband.
     
    Art, you're usually got your data lined up. But i sure hope you're wrong about this one.

    When i read these "woke" bios, i feel much better if it's "all cats, no kids".

    When i read through a woke herstory and find she's actually dropped a couple of kids, it's depressing. All that destructive crap and we didn't even get those cancerous genes scrubbed from the pool.
  82. @R.G. Camara
    @Steve Sailer

    Or was her father a Jewish man who knocked up her Italian-Catholic mother and then some other schmuck raised her or was accused of being her father?

    Or did gentile Daddy construction worker run off, leaving her to be raised alone by Mommy and become the lost little girl she became, growing to hate men and become a feminist?

    Anyway you slice it, she's a cliche. A sad cliche, but a cliche all the same.

    Replies: @Jane Plain

    If her father was Jewish, wouldn’t she be more intelligent?

    • Replies: @throtler
    @Jane Plain

    No.

  83. @Solomon the Fish
    @Steve Sailer

    Come on Steve, don’t be coy. You know how relevant Catholicism is to understanding DiAngelo. Racism = original sin, fragility=guilt. Confess the racism that you were born with and receive absolution. She’s a lapsed Catholic perceiving correct politics through the lens she inherited. It’s really that fucking dumb.

    Replies: @Jane Plain, @Simplepseudonymichandle

    They have to drag a Jewish angle into everything here.

  84. @Buzz Mohawk
    And who is selling Robin DiAngelo to the world, anyway?

    Behind every mediocrity who suddenly bursts upon us, there has to be some managing force. (No, I am not claiming to know who or what it is, or that it is even always the same.)

    Stacey Abrams is another good example of someone behind whom there has to be some kind of support and planning. Alexandria Ocasio-Whatever, the bartender from Westchester County is another one.

    None of these people accomplish anything on their own. They are packaged, marketed products.
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    AOC’s campaign managers, an Ivy graduate, was smart enough to understand that Crowley was representing a district that should not have been represented by a white male. AOC’s campaign manager understood that winning a low turnout primary against a lazy incumbent was the best way to get someone knew into Congress. The opposite is Tlaib that won as the non-black candidate in a primary against multiple black candidate where a majority was not required.

    The upsets in the 2020 Democratic Primary season were repeat of the AOC strategy where upstarts understood that they could win against lazy incumbents in low turnout primaries.

    The same things happened in the 3rd District of Colorado where Lauren Boebert beat an incumbent Republican in an election done almost totally by mail.

    Of course, all of this information does not fit into a sound bite so no one watching cable news channels ever hears about it.

  85. @Captain Tripps
    @Reg Cæsar

    I saw "Wun Tsum Tam" and immediately thought "Wu Tang Clan".

    Replies: @captflee

    Looks like one of the fake pilot names from KTVU’s Asiana crash reporting to me, but I am a rather notorious badthinker. Still, the best possible fake name tag I ever espied was long ago on the awe inspiring decollettage of a breathtakingly beautiful teen working at a Dairy Queen in a dreary eastern NC farm town; it read, “Iwanna”. Lord knows, I did.

    • LOL: Captain Tripps
  86. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franz

    Hail’s theory is that DiAngelo is basically a blue-collar prole by upbringing who has always resented the kind of white-collar office workers she is paid to harangue.
     
    Hail can keep his theory.

    As an actual blue-collar person from a very blue-collar area, I can tell you she has "plant" markers plastered all over her. I doubt she was chosen by an intelligence agency. Maybe a publisher wanted to spice the catalog up and picked her as a Dark Horse publishing phenom. But there was surely some agency money involved. She's a highly probable phony.

    At the risk of being called the Lesser Miles Mathis, I tell you stuff like this don't happen. Blue collar workers I have known have written well of their war experiences, along with "grapes of wrath" books about the Rustbelt era, and none got so much as a "maybe". And they were well-vetted manuscripts, I saw a few. But the American experience as real American experience it is no longer welcome at publishers row.

    And as you sagely noted, cancelling her will be a breeze when her spiel goes stale.

    Replies: @anon, @Federalist

    … I can tell you she has “plant” markers plastered all over her. I doubt she was chosen by an intelligence agency. Maybe a publisher wanted to spice the catalog up and picked her as a Dark Horse …

    I had just asked myself the related question, “who or what financed the beginnings of her endeavor?”

    Knowing additional data points about her might reveal some truly exciting facts, as iSteve noted.

    Follow the money, someone said …

  87. McWhorter is a smart guy, but the article he wrote for The Atlantic about Trump was a classic example of an academic completely unable to understand a phenomena that’s obvious on the face of it.

    The part that made me howl with laughter was how he dissed Trump for talking the way ordinary people do using “unmonitored language.”

    “Linguistics” in McWhorter’s view, as a window to the soul. Hilarious.

    He just can’t imagine Trump being calculated in the way he presents himself which, or course, Trump is.

  88. Now this is white fragility:

    Doctor Canceled From His Own Charity For Objecting To Riots

    You have to stand up to pushy blacks! Joe Biden does:

    Biden Asks Black Reporter If He’s A Junkie On Cocaine

    Moving to Chicagoland didn’t make Boeing any less Se-addlepated:

    Boeing communications chief resigns over decades-old article on women in combat

  89. anon[372] • Disclaimer says:

    The list of broken home detriments to society is growing.
    Stanley Anne Dunham
    Barack
    Robin DiAngelo
    Someone who knows link analysis and forecasting crime using Big Data might project the next appearance of such harmful people.
    Conversely, using those tools an America-hater might forecast how Patriots might likely assemble and preemptively suppress them from saving what is left of Old America that ruled the world post WWII.
    The founder of Google is from … ?? Is a broken home involved in his life somehow?

    Is DiAngelo’s book just one effort at preventing the re-assembling of the power-projection that conquered the globe in 1945? Who gains from that?

  90. @utu
    It seems that John McWhorter also is being eaten by envy. Envy, the only deadly sin that gives no pleasure.

    The Dehumanizing Condescension of White Fragility: The popular book aims to combat racism but talks down to Black people by John Mcwhorter
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/dehumanizing-condescension-white-fragility/614146/

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Not Only Wrathful, @Redman, @3g4me

    Yikes. Now that was a pretty brutal take down by McWhorter. Seems to draw a similar conclusion as Steve. To wit, DiAngelo really resembles a cult leader.

  91. @Jack D
    Westfield State is not a joke. It's a real college that has been around since 1838 and was founded by Horace Mann himself. Horace Mann was the man who was most responsible for advancing the idea of free, non-sectarian "public school" for everyone - male and female, black and white. Americans take the idea of free universal elementary and high school for granted as if it had always existed (and not even right wingers consider it to be "socialist") but it might not have existed (or become popular only decades later) if not for Mann.

    Anyway, Mann's idea required a large force of trained teachers who did not exist so one aspect of it was the creation of dozens of public "normal schools" to train teachers. Normal is a word borrowed from the French and in this context it means to The term "normal"refers to the goal of these institutions to teach certain norms to their students. Westfield State started out as Westfield Normal School. Many such places eventually changed their name to "X Teacher's College" as the word Normal went out of fashion.

    Teacher's Colleges were modest places with modest goals - to train a workforce of mostly females to teach mostly elementary school. Blue collar daughters might become the first to receive higher education in their families is such a school (these places charged tuition but it was modest and state subsidized). Only in the post World War II education boom did these places start pretending to be real Universities and renamed themselves and changed their goals accordingly.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Reg Cæsar, @prosa123, @Uncle Jack

    …as the word Normal went out of fashion.

    It certainly has in 2020!

    Horace Mann was the man who was most responsible for advancing the idea…

    Which he got from Prussia.

    Mann’s idea required a large force…

    That’s the problem. We need a thousand points of light, not

    • Replies: @JackOH
    @Reg Cæsar

    That makes great cover art for The Unz Review Sampler.

  92. @utu
    It seems that John McWhorter also is being eaten by envy. Envy, the only deadly sin that gives no pleasure.

    The Dehumanizing Condescension of White Fragility: The popular book aims to combat racism but talks down to Black people by John Mcwhorter
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/dehumanizing-condescension-white-fragility/614146/

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Not Only Wrathful, @Redman, @3g4me

    @11 utu: John Mcwhorter is a grifter wannabe. He found being a mascot for the TruCons didn’t pay as much as being aggressively BLACK, so he stopped writing about the inevitable failures of black students (due to laziness, never genetics, nuh uh, nosirree) and started writing about raycisssssm. And another magic negro bites the dust for the eternally hopeful conservatards. Too bad, so sad.

  93. @Lot
    Andrew Joyce is distraught she’s not Jewish.

    Replies: @3g4me, @DCThrowback, @Colin Wright

    @21 Lot: Says the eternal coup counter of fellow tribesmen.

  94. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    ...as the word Normal went out of fashion.
     
    It certainly has in 2020!

    Horace Mann was the man who was most responsible for advancing the idea...
     
    Which he got from Prussia.

    Mann’s idea required a large force...
     
    That's the problem. We need a thousand points of light, not


    https://libcom.org/files/images/blog/C_71_article_1408592_image_list_image_list_item_1_image%20(1).jpg

    Replies: @JackOH

    That makes great cover art for The Unz Review Sampler.

  95. @Lot
    Andrew Joyce is distraught she’s not Jewish.

    Replies: @3g4me, @DCThrowback, @Colin Wright

    it ain’t over until the “23 & me” sings

  96. @PiltdownMan
    OT:

    Molotov cocktail throwing lawyers.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/lawyers-arrested-molotov-cocktail-nyc-protest.html

    Replies: @Redman

    What a colossal piece of shit NY Magazine is. This is supposed to make the two vandal lawyers appear sympathetic? The article tries to justify these idiots’s rage because of DJT’s policies. Totally insane.

    Is it just me, or does the media seem to be intentionally trying to stoke a civil war? All the news is infused with rank opinion untethered to reality.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Redman

    It's not you.


    Is the media intentionally trying to stoke a civil war?
     
    Only if they considered the consequences of their actions--but they (Dems) don't ever consider consequences--it's all about their feelz.

    All the news is infused with rank opinion untethered to reality.
     
    Which is why it's not worth any attention. It's not news--it's entertainment.
  97. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Mr. Anon

    Isaias knocked down a lot of trees, taking out power lines. We've been on our generator for 37 hours now...

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Captain Tripps, @captflee, @Redman, @Mr. Anon

    Hang in there Buzz. Same story here in southern Westchester. Isaias was an unexpected bitch.

    But on the bright side, the Metro North to Grand Central was packed for the first time since March 20. Lot of folks can’t work from home for a while. I wonder if it will continue when the electricity is restored. Or will the City remain a ghost town until the election?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @Redman

    You hang in there too.

    I predict the city and the whole country will be locked down until Joe Biden and his colorful, female successor are elected by mail fraud. Then these problems will disappear and the real ones will start to get worse.

  98. @JohnnyWalker123
    Incentives matter.

    Let's say that the ruling class embraces the religion of "Kiwi-ism." This religion involves worship of kiwis, which are morally superior to all the other types of fruits.

    Let's say the ruling class decides to give lucrative careers to people who can speak articulately about their love of kiwis. Pro-kiwi individuals see their careers advance rapidly in the media, academia, government, and the corporate world. Embracing kiwis seems to be a path to prosperity. Meanwhile, pro-Mango individuals often get harassed and demeaned, sometimes even fired.

    Let's say pro-kiwi activists often get carried away, often attacking Mango farmers and setting fire to their fields. Sometimes pro-kiwi social media sites ban accounts that defend mangos too aggressively.

    In this type of society, which fruit do you think will sell better? The kiwi or the mango?

    Which fruit will artists paint? Which fruit will poets write about? Which fruit will people dress up as for Halloween? Which fruit will get subsidized by our govt?

    In the West, the ruling class has access to tremendous wealth and powerful, well-functioning institutions. If you embrace their ideologies, they can enrich you significantly. If you reject their propaganda, they can ruin you financially and socially.

    In today's West, attacking Whites is a path to respectability. If you're trying to climb the career ladder or launch a media/literary/entertainment career, attacking Whites will give you a leg up on the competition.
    Sometimes you can create a lucrative full-time job in which your sole task is to write about the flaws of White people. Nice work if you can get it.

    Defending Whites, on the other hand, is a path to poverty. Nobody will hire you for anything. People will keep their distance from you. You'll be a pariah.

    Being anti-White is a competitive advantage in today's America. That's why anti-Whiteism is the strongest in careers, educational institutions, and regions which are known for being highly competitive to begin with.

    Sure, the majority of Whites don't like this.

    However, today's Whites inhabit a highly atomized social milieu, in which extreme individualism precludes any type of large-scale group action. So it's tough to fight the ruling class...... As for "voting out the bums," that doesn't work either. Not when both parties are controlled opposition, with sham elections giving people the choice of Coke V.S. Pepsi. So that won't work.

    When you get down to it, there's not much that Whites can do. Other than grumble on Twitter, Facebook, and the Breitbart comment section.

    Anti-Whiteism is actually in a more fragile position than Communism was during the Soviet era. At least Communism was popular with the working-class masses for a while. Anti-Whiteism has never had much of a constituency, other than Blacks and Jews. White Conservatives&Moderates hate it. White Liberals may tolerate it, but they're not that excited.

    I suppose that's why our rulers are so obsessed with importing huge numbers of foreign immigrants and teaching them that Whites disrespected their ancestors. Our rulers figure that if they can change the demographics of Western countries and encourage the new diverse "Americans" to dislike Whites, then Anti-Whiteism will stand on more solid ground.

    The current social order will continue until one of the following happens.

    1. There's a massive economic or military catastrophe, leading to the collapse of the ruling class. If this happens, then anti-Whiteism will collapse as quickly as Communism did after the Soviet Union fell apart. When the population doesn't really believe in the state's ideology, then it fades once the rulers are gone.

    2. Whites get squeezed hard enough and get really angry, but have nowhere to run and nothing left to lose. So they begin to organically coalesce together. At that point, they could begin to fight back and retake their country. If you want to understand what this might look like, study the Reconstruction era in the post-Civil War South.

    I could think of plausible scenarios in which both happen.

    The continuity of Anti-Whiteism is contingent on the continuation of the current economic&social order. If a major shock causes the current order to collapse, then everything could change very quickly. At that point, life could get very interesting for all of us.

    Right now, the system is being shocked by the COVID recession, massive deficit spending, BLM/Anti-Fa turmoil, and political bickering. Will the system continue to withstand these shocks? Is there anything more massive on the horizon?

    Stay tuned.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @tyrone, @DCThrowback, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @Kratoklastes

    JohnnyWalker123, you’re one of my favorite commenters here. Next time you’re in DC, let’s grab a beer. Bravo.

    Now, riddle me this: One COULD argue that COVID Theater, Russian Collusion, Impeachment, BLM/Antifa are all being *sponsored* by the same people whom you define as the Ruling Class. At the very least, there is tremendous overlap. And they have the megaphone parroting the lies behind them, over and over.

    These elites are so upset (TDS) that the rubes used the one outlet they had left (election of DJT) to voice disapproval over their rule, that the Empire Struck Back, so to speak. Take that rubes!!!

    So while you’d THINK they’d be hard pressed to keep the pot from boiling over, they are actually turning the heat up on the stove. Is it all Trump/Rube hatred? Is it because a number of these folks are categorized, glibly, as “dual loyalists”, i.e, they have a place to go if the shit gets too hot?

    Are we being extorted to vote for their sham candidate in NOV with the implicit promise “this” (/waves hand in big circle) will abate if you once again acknowledge who rules over you?

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @DCThrowback


    JohnnyWalker123, you’re one of my favorite commenters here. Next time you’re in DC, let’s grab a beer. Bravo.

     

    LOL. Thanks. I'll have a Heineken.

    https://specsonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/007289000119.jpg

    are all being *sponsored* by the same people whom you define as the Ruling Class

     

    They are basically the same people. There's a revolving door that involves Big Corps, Wall Street, DC, and various govt agencies (including and military&intelligence).

    For example, Al Gore is on the Board of Apple. Hillary Clinton's son-in-law is a Wall Street exec. Former general&CIA director Petraeus is now working in private equity. Goldman Sachs has lots of alumni who've worked in the most elite echelons of govt.

    Then there are all the power couples. Let's say you have one spouse working in elite media and another spouse working as a DC lobbyist.

    Then there's the fundraising. Let's say you have a Hollywood celebrity who won't run for office. Even he can do campaign events for politicians and fund raise. For example, look at Ben Affleck.

    It's a unified ruling class who extend their tentacles in various places.

    Then there's the blackmail. There are various guys like Epstein who throw "parties" at their various residences, inviting lots of powerful, rich, and famous people. This provides a way to blackmail various elite individuals into supporting a particular agenda.

    Is it because a number of these folks are categorized, glibly, as “dual loyalists”, i.e, they have a place to go if the shit gets too hot?
     
    That's part of it. If the situation ever gets too "hot," many of them will flee to Israel. Israel was created as a place for Jews to go when they alienated any host population to an extreme extent.

    By the way, "dual loyalist" might be overstating it. "Dual" implies loyalty to both countries. I don't see much indication that they feel ANY loyalty to the U.S. I wonder if they've ever felt ANY loyalty to the U.S.

    Are we being extorted to vote for their sham candidate in NOV with the implicit promise “this” (/waves hand in big circle) will abate if you once again acknowledge who rules over you?

     

    Yes, this is a very good point. If Biden picks Kamala Harris or Stacy Abrams, there's an implicit promise that the new administration will be able to calm the Black masses.

    It's unstated, but heavily implied.

    That's the real reason why Biden wants to pick a Black.
  99. I imagine that if in 1692 in Salem, Ms. DiAngelo had been in the business of offering sermons on the Witch Menace, she would have similarly encountered “witch fragility” as various people objected to pleading guilty to “systemic whitchness” and then crying their “witch tears.”

    It’s amazing how many of the Woke think they aren’t the baddies in the Salem analogy. Even that terrible Arthur Miller play fails to recognize that the difference between witches and Commies is that Commies are very real. KKK NYPD officers not so much.

    Then again, I wouldn’t be surprised if DiAngelo thinks witches are real. She was a hippy midwife after all. Maybe she thinks she is one.

  100. @Anon55uu
    Interestingly no comment in here about her publisher Beacon Press, which is owned by the Unitarian Universalist Association. Beacon previously most famously published the Pentagon Papers in 1971. The terminology of “white supremacy” etc swept through the UUA denomination pretty quickly, a few years ahead of George Floyd, with various “open letters”, denunciation of heretics, etc such that it’s almost become a new religion of anti-racism. A far cry from the Brahmin religion of, say, Nixon and Ford cabinet member Elliott Richardson 50 years earlier.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @duncsbaby, @Paco Wové, @Peter D. Bredon, @SolontoCroesus, @SunBakedSuburb, @Kronos, @Dumbo, @Hibernian

    My dad was a Universalist. He was born and raised in New England during the depression from a lower middle class Republican household. He was a pretty conservative guy all his life. Career military and anti-abortion. Theologically though it was whole ‘nother ball of wax; he once related to me when I was a young adult that he never believed in God. He specifically didn’t believe Jesus was anymore a deity than any other man. He was definitely a moral conservative though; anti- gay, pro-family and like I said previously, pro-life. What I’m trying to say in my long-winded way is that at one time there were a lot of Unitarians & Universalists in New England who might’ve been complete squishes when it came to Christianity but were still conservative Republicans. Pop died in May of 2009 and I remember asking him after Obama was elected in 2008 what he thought of there being a black president, his response was to give the classic “pfft” expression – he wasn’t impressed.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @duncsbaby

    The somewhat conservative people in liberal denominations have for many years tended to be older. Now they've passed on or are too frail to attend church with few exceptions. Some denominations have openly declared they don't want them around anymore.

  101. I can prove white privilege exists.

    Name the people who get the most money hectoring whites about white privilege:

    Ms. DiAngelo is one.
    Tim Weiss is another.

    They are the ones whites actually pay attention to.

    To quote a brilliant black intellectual, Adolph Reed, Jr., TNC is treated by whites like the maid’s son who actually went to college. One can imagine the Cap’m in Tom Wolfe’s “Man in Full” gushing over him if her were the maid’s son.

    • Replies: @Bragadocious
    @Paleo Liberal

    Yeah, she seems to be horning in on Tim Wise's racket. Not only horning in but blowing him out of the water. Bet he didn't see that coming. What Wise didn't realize is that affluent white chicks prefer being lectured by other affluent white chicks, although they'll sometimes accept a dot Indian like Saira Rao.

    , @Art Deco
    @Paleo Liberal

    To quote a brilliant black intellectual, Adolph Reed, Jr., TNC is treated by whites like the maid’s son who actually went to college. One can imagine the Cap’m in Tom Wolfe’s “Man in Full” gushing over him if her were the maid’s son.

    It's "Tim Wise" not "Weiss".

    As for TNC, see John Derbyshire summary of his topical range. He doesn't have much liberal education, so he only talks about one thing: American Blackness, and fancies the rest of us should be as absorbed in the subject as he is.

    Per Robert Stacy McCain, The Atlantic at the time he was hired was 'a notorious snob shop'. The other columnists they employed at that time included Andrew Sullivan (Oxford, Harvard), Ross Douthat (Harvard), Marc Ambider (Harvard), Matthew Yglesias (Harvard), Clive Crook (Oxford, LSE), and Megan McArdle (Penn, University of Chicago). All of them had degrees and three of them had multiple degrees. Appended to this crew was TNC, who had two years at Howard University. He was given a considerable mulligan by the hiring manager there.

    Over the years, TNC has been very handsomely compensated for his writings at a time when ordinary reporters are having trouble finding remunerative work. And his rather pedestrian reflections sat atop the Sulzberger's 'bestseller' list for several weeks. What has to happen before Adolph Reed fancies TNC is not being treated with disrespect?

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    , @SC Rebel
    @Paleo Liberal

    Tim “just ignore that I live in a $750k house in a predominantly white neighborhood, because I truly understand the plight of the black race” Wise

    What a guy he is!

  102. @Anon55uu
    Interestingly no comment in here about her publisher Beacon Press, which is owned by the Unitarian Universalist Association. Beacon previously most famously published the Pentagon Papers in 1971. The terminology of “white supremacy” etc swept through the UUA denomination pretty quickly, a few years ahead of George Floyd, with various “open letters”, denunciation of heretics, etc such that it’s almost become a new religion of anti-racism. A far cry from the Brahmin religion of, say, Nixon and Ford cabinet member Elliott Richardson 50 years earlier.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @duncsbaby, @Paco Wové, @Peter D. Bredon, @SolontoCroesus, @SunBakedSuburb, @Kronos, @Dumbo, @Hibernian

    Interesting. This explains the alarmingly loony turn I see in my Facebook feed from middle-aged women (who were much saner back when I knew them as high-school girls).

  103. @International Jew

    the prole depths of the most lowbrow academia
     
    LOL.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @JimDandy, @Anonymous

    And the elite heights of the today’s highest-brow academia.

  104. These people aren’t fragile:

  105. @Jack D
    Westfield State is not a joke. It's a real college that has been around since 1838 and was founded by Horace Mann himself. Horace Mann was the man who was most responsible for advancing the idea of free, non-sectarian "public school" for everyone - male and female, black and white. Americans take the idea of free universal elementary and high school for granted as if it had always existed (and not even right wingers consider it to be "socialist") but it might not have existed (or become popular only decades later) if not for Mann.

    Anyway, Mann's idea required a large force of trained teachers who did not exist so one aspect of it was the creation of dozens of public "normal schools" to train teachers. Normal is a word borrowed from the French and in this context it means to The term "normal"refers to the goal of these institutions to teach certain norms to their students. Westfield State started out as Westfield Normal School. Many such places eventually changed their name to "X Teacher's College" as the word Normal went out of fashion.

    Teacher's Colleges were modest places with modest goals - to train a workforce of mostly females to teach mostly elementary school. Blue collar daughters might become the first to receive higher education in their families is such a school (these places charged tuition but it was modest and state subsidized). Only in the post World War II education boom did these places start pretending to be real Universities and renamed themselves and changed their goals accordingly.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Reg Cæsar, @prosa123, @Uncle Jack

    Many former normal schools are today known as directional colleges, in other words they have a compass direction or some variation thereof in their names. Two examples given in this thread are University of Northern Iowa and Northeastern Illinois State University. Some have changed their names more than once. A particularly amusing example is Central Connecticut State University, founded before the Civil War as State Normal School, renamed Connecticut State Teachers’ College in the 1920’s, Central Connecticut State College in 1950, and finally its present name in 1983; at the time of the last renaming there were still quite a few people around who had graduated when it was still the State Normal School.

    Other hints on college names: in many states, University of [state] is the flagship university while [state] State University is the land grant. Iowa, Michigan, Kansas and North Carolina are examples. In some Southern states, such as South Carolina and Alabama, [state] State University are HBCU’s; the land grants in those two states are Clemson and Auburn, respectively. Indiana is another unusual case, as Indiana State University is the former normal school, not the land grant (which is Purdue).

    • Replies: @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang
    @prosa123

    This applies to Arizona as well

  106. @Dumbo

    But if we take her at her word that she will turn 64 in September, what strikes me about this outline of her life is how boring and depressing her career has been until her very recently getting rich and honored. To call her an “academic,” for instance, gives the wrong impression because she’s from the prole depths of the most lowbrow academia.
     
    There's nothing particularly boring or depressing about it. It's just a pretty normal/average life, like that of millions of people. Actually, above average, if you think about it.

    In contrast, compare the career of well-paid gender theorist Judith Butler, who was born the same year as DiAngelo. Butler is famous/notorious for an opaque prose style that is catnip to grad students while impenetrable to civilians:
     
    You're taking them at face value. It's all a scam. You're taking seriously the pretentiousness of these people, and their fake intellectualism, and their credentials and their supposed academic bona fides. Butler is Jewish, which is like being royalty in Academia. Di Angelo isn't. Just that should give you the hint.

    I know many people getting academic jobs whose basic shtick is that a) they are Jewish b) they have good connections and in general excel at networking. They also publish a lot, but that's helped by b. They are hard-working, I suppose, and they are certainly not dumb, but also no geniuses.

    I prefer someone like Di Angelo. The problem of the fetishization of IQ in HBD circles is that they tend to actually believe in the "superiority" of people like Butler, who is useless, and not even that smart, just born and connected to the right people.

    Replies: @utu, @syonredux, @Grumpy, @syonredux

    Butler is Jewish, which is like being royalty in Academia.

    Dunno. Based on my experience, Blacks are the true academic royalty. After all, they are eagerly pursued (one Black academic of my acquaintance has changed unis 6 times in 10 years, each time getting a bigger paycheck),admitted into elite unis despite having lower-tier IQs (when I was in grad school, the Black students were clearly the least intelligent ones ), and achieve publication with inferior work.

    Heck, to a somewhat lesser degree, you can extend this to other members of the BIPOC coalition. For example, Richard Rodriguez has written about how he, during his days as an English grad student specializing in Renaissance lit, was all but guaranteed a tenure-track job due to his status as a visibly part Amerind Mestizo.

    Blacks are big show royalty (think the Windsors);Amerinds are bus-and-truck royalty (think Scandinavian royal houses);and Mestizos are upper-tier nobility (Dukes and Marquesses).

    South Asians and East Asians are roughly equivalent to Mestizos, but only in terms of the humanities (English lit, History, etc). When it comes to jobs in the hard sciences, they are basically on equal footing with Europeans.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @syonredux

    Look! Squirrel!

    , @Anon
    @syonredux

    Hrmph.

    Sounds like “Black is king”.

  107. >from white working-class background
    >does all she can to lower the living standard and physical safety of whites
    Oh, so she’s a kapo.

    • Agree: JackOH
  108. “None of this has much to do with black people. Eventually, her black competitors in the diversity racket will likely figure out a way to get her canceled so they can feast on her fees. But until then the money is good, finally.”

    blacks are NEVER going get the pay off for the diversity racket. Already, the sub-continental Asians, and Fancy Asians are already figuring it out.

    It’s not the blacks getting all that diversity doe, it’s the Asians, who work harder at it, who out smart the blacks at every turn, and who are already eating their diversity lunch.

  109. @Anon55uu
    Interestingly no comment in here about her publisher Beacon Press, which is owned by the Unitarian Universalist Association. Beacon previously most famously published the Pentagon Papers in 1971. The terminology of “white supremacy” etc swept through the UUA denomination pretty quickly, a few years ahead of George Floyd, with various “open letters”, denunciation of heretics, etc such that it’s almost become a new religion of anti-racism. A far cry from the Brahmin religion of, say, Nixon and Ford cabinet member Elliott Richardson 50 years earlier.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @duncsbaby, @Paco Wové, @Peter D. Bredon, @SolontoCroesus, @SunBakedSuburb, @Kronos, @Dumbo, @Hibernian

    Moreover: publishers of many a later Frankfurters, such as Habermas and Marcuse, then the nuttier feminists like Mary Daly. Who says mainline WASPS ain’t hep?

  110. @Paleo Liberal
    I can prove white privilege exists.

    Name the people who get the most money hectoring whites about white privilege:

    Ms. DiAngelo is one.
    Tim Weiss is another.

    They are the ones whites actually pay attention to.

    To quote a brilliant black intellectual, Adolph Reed, Jr., TNC is treated by whites like the maid’s son who actually went to college. One can imagine the Cap’m in Tom Wolfe’s “Man in Full” gushing over him if her were the maid’s son.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Art Deco, @SC Rebel

    Yeah, she seems to be horning in on Tim Wise’s racket. Not only horning in but blowing him out of the water. Bet he didn’t see that coming. What Wise didn’t realize is that affluent white chicks prefer being lectured by other affluent white chicks, although they’ll sometimes accept a dot Indian like Saira Rao.

  111. @Mr. Anon

    In 2007, in her early 50s, she got hired as a professor of education at Westfield State, which is somewhere or other.
     
    Wherever Westfield may be, it is pretty White, or at least pretty non-Black:

    https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/westfield-state-university/student-life/diversity/#secEthnic

    The demographics of the town of Westfield are even more - how shall we say - fragile:

    https://www.cityofwestfield.org/242/Demographics

    "The racial makeup of the city was 92.8% White, 1.6% African American,..........."

    Westfield sounds like just the kind of place that a white lady professor would go, if she were more comfortable writing about Black people, rather than actually teaching them or living amongst them.

    Replies: @Ganderson

    She and her husband lived in Springfield, which , as Steve says, is rather vibrant. Westfield is one of the more normal towns in Western Mass, blue collar-ish, not vibrant, not currently being overrun by lesbians. (the Rosie O’Donnell variety, not the Pornhub variety.)

    • Replies: @Prosa123
    @Ganderson

    Most of the communities in Western Massachusetts are decent enough. Springfield has the usual array of urban troubles (though it's better than Hartford just down the road), Holyoke is run down in parts, but that's about it.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @MEH 0910

  112. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Mr. Anon

    Isaias knocked down a lot of trees, taking out power lines. We've been on our generator for 37 hours now...

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Captain Tripps, @captflee, @Redman, @Mr. Anon

    Okay, I read too much into your comment. Still, When the country is arranged according to Ms. Di Angelo’s liking, electricity might well become a bit of a luxury.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
  113. @Steve Sailer
    @R.G. Camara

    Was her father a Jewish construction worker who married a Catholic telephone operator? Maybe, but probably not.

    Working on a kibbutz for a little while was a thing in the 1970s. I had a Protestant friend who did it for six weeks or so in 1980.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Solomon the Fish, @James O'Meara

    “Working on a kibbutz for a little while was a thing in the 1970s. I had a Protestant friend who did it for six weeks or so in 1980.”

    Really? That would explain a weird bit on Two & A Half Men, where a couple times Charlie or Alan would recall that their monstrous mother had shipped them off to a kibbutz “where we were constantly beaten up because we weren’t even Jewish!” I just thought that was Chuck Lorre adding a bit of yiddishkeit.

  114. @Paleo Liberal
    I can prove white privilege exists.

    Name the people who get the most money hectoring whites about white privilege:

    Ms. DiAngelo is one.
    Tim Weiss is another.

    They are the ones whites actually pay attention to.

    To quote a brilliant black intellectual, Adolph Reed, Jr., TNC is treated by whites like the maid’s son who actually went to college. One can imagine the Cap’m in Tom Wolfe’s “Man in Full” gushing over him if her were the maid’s son.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Art Deco, @SC Rebel

    To quote a brilliant black intellectual, Adolph Reed, Jr., TNC is treated by whites like the maid’s son who actually went to college. One can imagine the Cap’m in Tom Wolfe’s “Man in Full” gushing over him if her were the maid’s son.

    It’s “Tim Wise” not “Weiss”.

    As for TNC, see John Derbyshire summary of his topical range. He doesn’t have much liberal education, so he only talks about one thing: American Blackness, and fancies the rest of us should be as absorbed in the subject as he is.

    Per Robert Stacy McCain, The Atlantic at the time he was hired was ‘a notorious snob shop’. The other columnists they employed at that time included Andrew Sullivan (Oxford, Harvard), Ross Douthat (Harvard), Marc Ambider (Harvard), Matthew Yglesias (Harvard), Clive Crook (Oxford, LSE), and Megan McArdle (Penn, University of Chicago). All of them had degrees and three of them had multiple degrees. Appended to this crew was TNC, who had two years at Howard University. He was given a considerable mulligan by the hiring manager there.

    Over the years, TNC has been very handsomely compensated for his writings at a time when ordinary reporters are having trouble finding remunerative work. And his rather pedestrian reflections sat atop the Sulzberger’s ‘bestseller’ list for several weeks. What has to happen before Adolph Reed fancies TNC is not being treated with disrespect?

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Art Deco

    Adolph Reed treats TNC with less respect than just about anyone else.

    True, TNC has been handsomely compensated. It’s just that white folks don’t take him as seriously as they do Wise (sorry about the misspelling).

    I think Dr Reed’s point is that white folks set a very low bar for a black writer, and lavish praise and money on TNC not because they think him a great writer, but because they think him a good writer for a black man.

    One could argue that is a form of affirmative action.

    There are also different audiences. TNC is more popular among blacks, especially black back writers who insist on overusing the phrase “black bodies”. But when white folks want to get hectored about how racist they are, they prefer to be hectored by Wise or DiAngelo. It’s almost as if whites are a bit scared of angry blacks.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @SunBakedSuburb

  115. @Anon55uu
    Interestingly no comment in here about her publisher Beacon Press, which is owned by the Unitarian Universalist Association. Beacon previously most famously published the Pentagon Papers in 1971. The terminology of “white supremacy” etc swept through the UUA denomination pretty quickly, a few years ahead of George Floyd, with various “open letters”, denunciation of heretics, etc such that it’s almost become a new religion of anti-racism. A far cry from the Brahmin religion of, say, Nixon and Ford cabinet member Elliott Richardson 50 years earlier.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @duncsbaby, @Paco Wové, @Peter D. Bredon, @SolontoCroesus, @SunBakedSuburb, @Kronos, @Dumbo, @Hibernian

    Head of UUism is Rev Susan Frederick-Grey
    https://www.uua.org/uuagovernance/officers/president

    Susan brings a strong focus on mission and strategic planning to her leadership at the UUA as it works to dismantle systems of white supremacy.


    . . .
    She has represented the UUA in the 2017 Charlottesville protests against white nationalist violence, has worked in conjunction with the Poor Peoples Campaign on issues of poverty, witnessed at the US-Mexico border for immigrant justice, and partnered with local advocates to expand voting rights in Florida. In addition to her regular column in UU World, Susan has written for Vice, Sojourners and numerous local papers.

    Prior to her election, she served as Lead Minister of the Unitarian Universalist Congregation of Phoenix, Arizona where she was a national voice for immigrant rights. Susan played a critical role in the long-term campaign to end the constitutional violations of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

    Frederick-Grey is married to a male, also a minister in Protestant denomination/s; they and teen age son live in Mass.

    Rev. Susan’s CV says “her roots are in Eliot Chapel (UU) in St. Louis, MO” and Harvard Divinity.

    The current pastor at Eliot Chapel is Rev Barbara Gadon
    http://www.eliotchapel.org/staff

    “Rev. Gadon earned her Bachelor of Arts degree in Linguistics from the University of Minnesota, with a focus on writing and feminist studies.”

    Apparently Rev Barbara also expresses herself through fine art:
    https://fineartamerica.com/profiles/barbara-gadon

    Gadon’s colleague at Eliot Chapel is Krista Taves, dual citizen of Canada & USA.
    http://www.eliotchapel.org/staff
    From a farming background, Taves and her partner are turning a plot of land into a native plants sanctuary.

    “Her social justice passions are racial, reproductive, and environmental justice.”

    Based on a post on her blog, https://kristataves.wordpress.com/2014/07/22/religious-terrorism-meets-religious-liberalism/ , reproductive justice ranks first: she labeled as “Religious Terrorism” an event in which anti-abortionists disrupted a Unitarian church service and even terrorized the children by pressing pictures against the windows.

    They hate clergy who are pro-choice. We drive them crazy because we use the same scriptures they do and pray to the same God. They take pictures of us . . . We get hate letters in the mail. It’s very intimidating. But heh, we aren’t the ones trying to get an abortion. So if just by standing there in a clergy collar, holding a sign that proclaims a love bigger than their hate, we drive the protesters a little crazy? Crazy enough to direct their venom at us? May it make one woman’s day just a bit easier.

    To protect the UU children from being terrorized by photos, presumably of fetuses being aborted, they were moved to a room with no windows.
    Love in action.

    • LOL: Kronos
  116. When I first heard this chick speak after seeing her in the news all the time, I was really disappointed. Given her stratospheric fame this year, I expected her to be a charismatic (but dangerous) persuader on the level of Jim Jones but instead she comes off as pretty boring and not that smart. I’m really not sure how she manages to be so convincing to so many people.

  117. @Altai
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZfiSjTHVqA

    No mention of DiAngelo is complete without this clip of lockdown Jimmy Fallon quickly making up for the blackface clip that went viral after 20 years. Look at his face, look at her face.

    She's got those crazy eyes and a constant smirk. That's what a lot of these types have. Call it cluster B face.

    Replies: @Steve in Greensboro, @James O'Meara, @SunBakedSuburb, @anon

    Her career finally took off when she took Tina Fey as her role model.

  118. …manipulate the emotions of 100 IQ women.

    Change to:

    “…manipulate the emotions of IQ 100 and below women – considerably more than half of them, as well males capable of critical thinking but who are easily intimidated or else just looking out for themselves or otherwise vulnerable such as a lot of Millenial men, as well as males who just can’t think very critically, which is quite a lot.”

    FTFY 😉

  119. @syonredux
    @Dumbo


    Butler is Jewish, which is like being royalty in Academia.
     
    Dunno. Based on my experience, Blacks are the true academic royalty. After all, they are eagerly pursued (one Black academic of my acquaintance has changed unis 6 times in 10 years, each time getting a bigger paycheck),admitted into elite unis despite having lower-tier IQs (when I was in grad school, the Black students were clearly the least intelligent ones ), and achieve publication with inferior work.

    Heck, to a somewhat lesser degree, you can extend this to other members of the BIPOC coalition. For example, Richard Rodriguez has written about how he, during his days as an English grad student specializing in Renaissance lit, was all but guaranteed a tenure-track job due to his status as a visibly part Amerind Mestizo.

    Blacks are big show royalty (think the Windsors);Amerinds are bus-and-truck royalty (think Scandinavian royal houses);and Mestizos are upper-tier nobility (Dukes and Marquesses).


    South Asians and East Asians are roughly equivalent to Mestizos, but only in terms of the humanities (English lit, History, etc). When it comes to jobs in the hard sciences, they are basically on equal footing with Europeans.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anon

    Look! Squirrel!

  120. @JohnnyWalker123
    Incentives matter.

    Let's say that the ruling class embraces the religion of "Kiwi-ism." This religion involves worship of kiwis, which are morally superior to all the other types of fruits.

    Let's say the ruling class decides to give lucrative careers to people who can speak articulately about their love of kiwis. Pro-kiwi individuals see their careers advance rapidly in the media, academia, government, and the corporate world. Embracing kiwis seems to be a path to prosperity. Meanwhile, pro-Mango individuals often get harassed and demeaned, sometimes even fired.

    Let's say pro-kiwi activists often get carried away, often attacking Mango farmers and setting fire to their fields. Sometimes pro-kiwi social media sites ban accounts that defend mangos too aggressively.

    In this type of society, which fruit do you think will sell better? The kiwi or the mango?

    Which fruit will artists paint? Which fruit will poets write about? Which fruit will people dress up as for Halloween? Which fruit will get subsidized by our govt?

    In the West, the ruling class has access to tremendous wealth and powerful, well-functioning institutions. If you embrace their ideologies, they can enrich you significantly. If you reject their propaganda, they can ruin you financially and socially.

    In today's West, attacking Whites is a path to respectability. If you're trying to climb the career ladder or launch a media/literary/entertainment career, attacking Whites will give you a leg up on the competition.
    Sometimes you can create a lucrative full-time job in which your sole task is to write about the flaws of White people. Nice work if you can get it.

    Defending Whites, on the other hand, is a path to poverty. Nobody will hire you for anything. People will keep their distance from you. You'll be a pariah.

    Being anti-White is a competitive advantage in today's America. That's why anti-Whiteism is the strongest in careers, educational institutions, and regions which are known for being highly competitive to begin with.

    Sure, the majority of Whites don't like this.

    However, today's Whites inhabit a highly atomized social milieu, in which extreme individualism precludes any type of large-scale group action. So it's tough to fight the ruling class...... As for "voting out the bums," that doesn't work either. Not when both parties are controlled opposition, with sham elections giving people the choice of Coke V.S. Pepsi. So that won't work.

    When you get down to it, there's not much that Whites can do. Other than grumble on Twitter, Facebook, and the Breitbart comment section.

    Anti-Whiteism is actually in a more fragile position than Communism was during the Soviet era. At least Communism was popular with the working-class masses for a while. Anti-Whiteism has never had much of a constituency, other than Blacks and Jews. White Conservatives&Moderates hate it. White Liberals may tolerate it, but they're not that excited.

    I suppose that's why our rulers are so obsessed with importing huge numbers of foreign immigrants and teaching them that Whites disrespected their ancestors. Our rulers figure that if they can change the demographics of Western countries and encourage the new diverse "Americans" to dislike Whites, then Anti-Whiteism will stand on more solid ground.

    The current social order will continue until one of the following happens.

    1. There's a massive economic or military catastrophe, leading to the collapse of the ruling class. If this happens, then anti-Whiteism will collapse as quickly as Communism did after the Soviet Union fell apart. When the population doesn't really believe in the state's ideology, then it fades once the rulers are gone.

    2. Whites get squeezed hard enough and get really angry, but have nowhere to run and nothing left to lose. So they begin to organically coalesce together. At that point, they could begin to fight back and retake their country. If you want to understand what this might look like, study the Reconstruction era in the post-Civil War South.

    I could think of plausible scenarios in which both happen.

    The continuity of Anti-Whiteism is contingent on the continuation of the current economic&social order. If a major shock causes the current order to collapse, then everything could change very quickly. At that point, life could get very interesting for all of us.

    Right now, the system is being shocked by the COVID recession, massive deficit spending, BLM/Anti-Fa turmoil, and political bickering. Will the system continue to withstand these shocks? Is there anything more massive on the horizon?

    Stay tuned.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @tyrone, @DCThrowback, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @Kratoklastes

    JohnnyWalker123

    Spot on analysis.

    There is one key component of the current craziness that makes this time time different: businesses and the corporations — and particularly advertising agencies — are all in on the anti-white madness.

    If a Martian came down and watched the ads on commercial TV, he might conclude half of the intact families in the nation are black households with doting fathers and cute kids, all the Hispanics are bourgeoisie middle class and Euro in physiognomy, and all the Whites are an afterthought, except in My Pillow commercials. Minnesota in bygone days.

    Where is Don Draper when you need him?

    A signal that we’ve reached peak anti-whitness/pro-wokeness is when corporations decide they’ve had enough and/or tell the mob they’ve had enough. Trader Joe’s recent push back was heartening, although it was customers who told Management not to go there. Same with The Wall St. Journal editorial page telling the snowflakes to pound sand.

    But I fear these are outliers, and convergence is here to stay. It does not bode well.

    • Agree: Testing12
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia


    There is one key component of the current craziness that makes this time time different: businesses and the corporations — and particularly advertising agencies — are all in on the anti-white madness.

     

    Honestly, I think there's a general ruling class. This class have their tentacles on the various levers of power - media, entertainment, academia, govt, big corps, intelligence agencies.

    For example, Al Gore is on the Board of Directors of Apple Computers. General Petraeus was a military general and then CIA Director. He's now a Wall Street executive. There are various Goldman Sachs officials who have gone to work in govt over the years.

    There's a huge revolving door that involves these various institutions.

    There are also various types of connections. For example, Hollywood entertainers (actors, musicians, models) often raise money and do events for politicians.

    Big corps will continue to support the craziness for as long as corporate profits remain strong. If profits start to plunge, that's when investors will start to put pressure on execs. At that point, they might break. Until then, corporations won't say anything negative about BLM and Anti-Fa.

    Replies: @JackOH

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    Trader Joe's used to be owned by a German, maybe still is, and Red Bull is owned by an Austrian. Maybe Goya Foods was started by one of those Nazis who fled to South America?

    Anyway...

    Your pro-police meal: Red Bull and Cup Noodle.

    (Cup Noodle was popularized in Japan after it was photographed being eaten by the Japanese Riot Police, which used to have right-wing overtones.)

    If you need to add veggies, anything from Goya or a Mexican salad bowl (we love Mexicans!).

  121. @Solomon the Fish
    @Steve Sailer

    Come on Steve, don’t be coy. You know how relevant Catholicism is to understanding DiAngelo. Racism = original sin, fragility=guilt. Confess the racism that you were born with and receive absolution. She’s a lapsed Catholic perceiving correct politics through the lens she inherited. It’s really that fucking dumb.

    Replies: @Jane Plain, @Simplepseudonymichandle

    There’s 51 million American Catholics, 1.2 billion worldwide – careful with the one-brush.

    Here’s some categories I can put them into which I am sure are incomplete:

    1. Attempt at the same strategy, i.e.: “you are being a minority so , so will I”, i.e.: identity around Catholicism – worked for awhile, but seems as of V2 stripped of its power so not many do it anymore
    2. Attempt at the same, i.e.: identity around their ethnic roots – used to work, only works now among Latino crowds
    3. Flight – adopt/retain right-wing politics far from the immigrant-cities their parents settled in, largely still secular
    4. Flight – adopt/retain right-wing politics far from the immigrant-cities their parents settled in, go traditional – noting that “traditional” is to the right of “conservative” and “traditional” Catholics can one up Protestant fundamentalists – the latter at least nominally believing in democracy – traditional Catholics long for a return to monarchy, and they aren’t kidding
    5. Suburban flight and ally – adopt the centrist left politics of the immigrant-cities their parents settled in as a rough counter-balance and a legitimate inheritance of their working class roots, but move to the suburbs away from the urban decay, while actively supporting the politicians who preside over that same decay

    The last approach is problematic, but for awhile retains principle and then the patina of principle, but we’re mostly past both right now – bottom line though is that it was a survival strategy for a time that keeps its adopter on the right side of the swinging fist and forearm.

    Other bottom line is: these are all survival strategies – they all have that in common – which says more than anything.

    51 million though – that’s a lot of punch to consolidate if you can find common ground and cause with.

  122. @Anon
    @R.G. Camara

    McWhorter wrote one of the most insightful articles of the past decade, his Daily Beast piece comparing ‘anti-racism’ to religion.

    I’ve read two of his books on language; both were excellent.

    He is a man of genuine intellectual substance, even if he suffers from typical liberal limits to his criticism of the establishment left.

    While McWhorter hems and haws about who exactly should be debating race and IQ, he does not dismiss the concept of genetic factors in racial disparities outright as almost any other left intellectual of his standing would.

    Saying he is an “affirmative action” type is baseless and just reflects poorly on you.

    Replies: @Veracitor

    McWhorter is an intellectual lightweight who guards the flanks of the Establishment to pay for his affirmative-action sinecure. That does make him a good guide to the Establishment propaganda line.

    Consider McWorter’s poorly-written (vide infra) 2013 Time essay ludicrously defending Rachel Jeantel against (now irrefutable) charges of perjury and dimwittedness in the “Trayvon Martin” (George Zimmerman) case. That essay is worth revisiting to review elements other than McWhorter’s awkward writing. Consider this gem:

    Few fully understand that the tension between young black men and the police (and by extension, security guards, traffic cops and just about any sort of watchman) is the main thing keeping America from getting past race. If ten years went by without a story like the Martin case we’d be in a very different country.

    Perhaps we would be, but a fresh hoax like the Martin case every few years (latterly George Floyd) has oh-so-conveniently prevented it. McWorter wasn’t fazed by the source— persistent, aggressive black violence and crime— of the “tension” to which he referred. He was just pushing the Establishment line, already prescribed seven years ago, that America should remove all obstacles (“the police,” “security guards, traffic cops and just about any sort of watchman”) to violent black criminals so that America can “get past race.”

    “BLM,” anyone? How about “defund the police?” John McWorter presaged racial antinomianism like John the Baptist foretold the advent of Christianity.

    As for McWhorter’s academic pretensions, six years ago Steve Sailer riffed on a review by Oliver Kamm in The Times of London of McWhorter’s book The Language Hoax which denounces the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis.

    I was privileged to comment then (my goodness, how time flies!) as follows:

    A pardonable egocentrism (to which I, as much as anyone, am prey) leads us to think about Whorfianism mostly in individual, even self-referenced terms. If “I” don’t have a special word for powdery snow, am “I” less able to think about snow in all its varied forms? Certainly I may build up noun phrases “powdery snow; sticky snow” and slang terms like “Sierra cement” (those of you who have skiied Mammoth will understand), but perhaps “I” don’t have the legendary nival insight of the Esquimaux? If deprived by the compilers of Newspeak of terms for sophisticated concepts like declining marginal returns to capital, am I not hampered in thinking of them, since I must spend so much mental effort in circumlocution?*

    Yet the true power of today’s Newspeak, the politically-correct vocabulary mandated by the AP Style Guide, the speech codes of the universities, et cetera, lies not so much in befogging individual thought as preventing communication among individuals who might, the language-manglers fear, aggregate into groups hostile to the powers that be.

    The public use of terms such as “illegal alien” must be suppressed, not because doing so prevents individual resentment of said aliens, but because those who might organize political opposition to illegal immigration will be stifled and stymied by their inability to communicate with potential recruits to their cause. If you aren’t allowed to name an evil in public, how can you organize any opposition to it?

    McWhorter is just doing his job as a shill for the elites.** That job is to demoralize and silence the elites’ opponents, and one way to do that (just as TV talking heads denounce all criticism of elites as “crackpot conspiracy theories”) is to confuse and devalue the intellectual tools by which elite propaganda may be understood and possibly counteracted.

    Whorfianism cannot fully explain individual thought, for if it did, no new thoughts would be possible. That is obviously untrue; we see that people invent new words to go with new thoughts and life proceeds apace. But Whorfianism does help explain the difficulty of sending new thoughts through society! When an necessary word is lacking, a thought cannot be simply and quickly communicated– it must be slowly and laboriously propagated along with new vocabulary which many people past adolescence are reluctant to learn.

    So applied Whorfianism is not contemptible. McWhorter himself is applying Whorfianism in a way. He belittles Whorfianism to guard the flanks of political correctness! If anyone complains that enforcement of politically-correct restrictions on vocabulary hampers democratic discourse, McWhorter is there to show that the complainers are crackpots: vocabulary has nothing to do with thought and therefore, he implies quite maliciously, with communication.

    It is rather a different point, but I was bemused by the awkward writing McWhorter displayed in his Time essay helpfully linked by Dave Pinsen above. McWhorter refused to call Jeantel’s lies “lies,” so instead he dug into his thesaurus for euphemisms such as “dissimulate” and “feign” to describe her lies, then demonstrated that he doesn’t really understand how to use those words, writing, for example, that Jeantel “feigned on whether calling someone a cracker was racially motivated.” “Feigned on…?” Bzzzzzt! McWorter’s essay is full of solecisms. For example, he often switches tense in a confusing manner. Considering the whole thing, I suspect McWhorter calls Jeantel’s command of English “perfect” only because his is not a hell of a lot better.

    *It is natural to think along these lines, since the jargon and the concepts in most fields of study are nearly merged, very probably because our biology constrains us to accomplish most advanced thought using our human facility for verbal logic.

    **That is the price of Affirmative Action. In return for bootlicking loyalty, American elites promote blacks like McWhorter in the place of smarter middle-class whites. It’s all very clever; some of those smart middle-class whites, if they got into HYP, might actually compete with children of the elites, so they must be kept out, and the best way to keep them out is to give their spots to McWhorter-types who will not so compete, but who will make grateful and therefore more useful house servants.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Veracitor

    McWhorter is an intellectual lightweight who guards the flanks of the Establishment to pay for his affirmative-action sinecure. That does make him a good guide to the Establishment propaganda line.

    McWhorter has produced dozens of scholarly articles in the field of linguistics over the last 30 years and has a vita quite unremarkable for a faculty member at a research university.

    , @Anon
    @Veracitor

    Your criticism of McWhorter still comes down to him holding racially paternalistic views towards black people, which are most of the time (and that is an important qualifier) fully in keeping with the left orthodoxy. You mistake disagreement or being wrong, with lack of general ability.

    In fact inadvertently you demonstrate that he is rather more, not less capable in his sophistry than white elites, so again the notion he is an “affirmative action” case is simply petty and insupportable.

    McWhorter perfectly fits Sowell’s critique of liberal intelligentsia as possessing great ‘verbal virtuosity’ in the absence of quantitative abilities or practical experience.

    You still fail to acknowledge that McWhorter at times holds views that challenge the left’s racial claims, and not, as in the case of Xendi or Coates, that merely make a more zealous ‘blackety-black’ claim, which is the template of radicalism that white elites expect and prefer. If McWhorter really held a mere sinecure, he would not be so bold.

    , @Jack D
    @Veracitor

    I have to say that what you wrote has held up very well . Often stuff written in the past ages like milk because the times move on (who 7 years ago would have expected Trump to be the POTUS?) but what you said back then applies with equal relevance today.

    Ten years are NEVER going to pass without another "Martin" type case because blacks are never going to cease their criminality. The only way we could go 10 years without such an incident is if blacks were given complete license to rampage at will and I don't think that is going to happen, except for a very brief period - the backlash would be so strong that it would sweep aside those who supported it and the pendulum would swing back in the other direction. Years ago Dinkins tried something like this in NYC (not exactly a bastion of right wing reaction) and his first term as mayor was also his last. The good news about BLM is that the more "successful" their "abolish the police" initiatives are now, the greater the backlash is going to be in the future.

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    , @syonredux
    @Veracitor


    McWhorter is an intellectual lightweight
     
    But when compared to a flyweight like Ibram X Kendi.........
    , @ben tillman
    @Veracitor

    You make some good points. McWhorter, by the way, is now aware of the Jeantel fraud and discusses it with Glenn Loury here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t-wtTEp7G0

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  123. Anon[191] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    And who is selling Robin DiAngelo to the world, anyway?

    Behind every mediocrity who suddenly bursts upon us, there has to be some managing force. (No, I am not claiming to know who or what it is, or that it is even always the same.)

    Stacey Abrams is another good example of someone behind whom there has to be some kind of support and planning. Alexandria Ocasio-Whatever, the bartender from Westchester County is another one.

    None of these people accomplish anything on their own. They are packaged, marketed products.
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    Managed product = Jordan Petersen, Eric Weinstein

    Jordan Peterson’s target market = wimpy but semi high IQ atheist white men that need to tidy up their rooms.

    Eric Weinstein’s target market = semi high IQ jewish atheists with a chip on the shoulder (looks and manners not on their side).

    Milo Yia-whatchamacallit’s target market = wimpy atheist whites with a yearning for letting the rage out.

    Maybe Sailer could do background research on those guys too.

    Nobody that picks a celebrity guru to explain life’s intricacies is high IQ. Or sensible.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Anon

    Things go deeper. American culture has a historical current of quick-fix solutions, self-help industry, optimism (reinventing oneself- what a nonsense, it is impossible), sky is the limit, weird cults (Christian science, Scientology,...) no other white country has ever come up with.

    Deep, Puritan America with its Calvinist guilt, has created much; shallow, "Emerson-for-materialist-idiots" not so.

    As far as I know, real Europe, from Paris to Petrograd, has nothing similar. Britain is a more complex case, but despite the similarities, English are more realistic & not so shallow (they export in the US their flamboyant refuse & sometimes good scientists). In England, you could have Rotherham & Telford, but not something like mass hysteria of various witch hunts. Though-England is becoming a bastion of unfree speech & the US is, now, much freer.

    Or, British public intellectuals are cowards; American public intellectuals are not even intellectuals. And, Americans are more easily bought, financially corrupted.

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  124. @syonredux
    @Dumbo


    Butler is Jewish, which is like being royalty in Academia.
     
    Dunno. Based on my experience, Blacks are the true academic royalty. After all, they are eagerly pursued (one Black academic of my acquaintance has changed unis 6 times in 10 years, each time getting a bigger paycheck),admitted into elite unis despite having lower-tier IQs (when I was in grad school, the Black students were clearly the least intelligent ones ), and achieve publication with inferior work.

    Heck, to a somewhat lesser degree, you can extend this to other members of the BIPOC coalition. For example, Richard Rodriguez has written about how he, during his days as an English grad student specializing in Renaissance lit, was all but guaranteed a tenure-track job due to his status as a visibly part Amerind Mestizo.

    Blacks are big show royalty (think the Windsors);Amerinds are bus-and-truck royalty (think Scandinavian royal houses);and Mestizos are upper-tier nobility (Dukes and Marquesses).


    South Asians and East Asians are roughly equivalent to Mestizos, but only in terms of the humanities (English lit, History, etc). When it comes to jobs in the hard sciences, they are basically on equal footing with Europeans.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anon

    Hrmph.

    Sounds like “Black is king”.

  125. @Anonymous
    So judging by the Wonderbread fever that certain high profile chicks of color are experiencing----- can we say that the antiwhite leftist programming by the Westfield State grad et al is ...

    ...making some dusky girls horny for Casper.

    ...and they want some Polar Bear action.

    ...and they won't admit it but they crave Magilla Vanilla.

    WTF.

    Are these caramel carousers actually white supremacists?

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    White men are still considered the most attractive, wealthy, and powerful men. Even with all of the anti white male propaganda white men are seen as the ones in charge. Authority and power are very attractive and women of all races are social climbers

    Also, woke women like AOC mostly grew up in middle class neighborhoods and hung out with white people. Outside of her family AOC probably doesn’t interact with Puerto Ricans that much, spending her school years around other whites and living in gentrified neighborhoods before running for Congress.

  126. @Art Deco
    @Paleo Liberal

    To quote a brilliant black intellectual, Adolph Reed, Jr., TNC is treated by whites like the maid’s son who actually went to college. One can imagine the Cap’m in Tom Wolfe’s “Man in Full” gushing over him if her were the maid’s son.

    It's "Tim Wise" not "Weiss".

    As for TNC, see John Derbyshire summary of his topical range. He doesn't have much liberal education, so he only talks about one thing: American Blackness, and fancies the rest of us should be as absorbed in the subject as he is.

    Per Robert Stacy McCain, The Atlantic at the time he was hired was 'a notorious snob shop'. The other columnists they employed at that time included Andrew Sullivan (Oxford, Harvard), Ross Douthat (Harvard), Marc Ambider (Harvard), Matthew Yglesias (Harvard), Clive Crook (Oxford, LSE), and Megan McArdle (Penn, University of Chicago). All of them had degrees and three of them had multiple degrees. Appended to this crew was TNC, who had two years at Howard University. He was given a considerable mulligan by the hiring manager there.

    Over the years, TNC has been very handsomely compensated for his writings at a time when ordinary reporters are having trouble finding remunerative work. And his rather pedestrian reflections sat atop the Sulzberger's 'bestseller' list for several weeks. What has to happen before Adolph Reed fancies TNC is not being treated with disrespect?

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    Adolph Reed treats TNC with less respect than just about anyone else.

    True, TNC has been handsomely compensated. It’s just that white folks don’t take him as seriously as they do Wise (sorry about the misspelling).

    I think Dr Reed’s point is that white folks set a very low bar for a black writer, and lavish praise and money on TNC not because they think him a great writer, but because they think him a good writer for a black man.

    One could argue that is a form of affirmative action.

    There are also different audiences. TNC is more popular among blacks, especially black back writers who insist on overusing the phrase “black bodies”. But when white folks want to get hectored about how racist they are, they prefer to be hectored by Wise or DiAngelo. It’s almost as if whites are a bit scared of angry blacks.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Paleo Liberal

    It’s just that white folks don’t take him as seriously as they do Wise (sorry about the misspelling).

    Sez who? How is that measured?



    I think Dr Reed’s point is that white folks set a very low bar for a black writer, and lavish praise and money on TNC not because they think him a great writer, but because they think him a good writer for a black man.

    So, tell me what the complaint is. Is it that some better commentator was displaced by the patronage given Coates, or is it that Reed wants the payola for himself?



    While we're at it, have you taken a gander at Reed's background?

    1. His dissertation was signed at one of the institutions in the pedigree of Clark Atlanta, which itself is only notionally a research institution.

    2. He's written a great deal of topical commentary. It's hard to locate any actual research project or theoretical model he's produced since finishing his dissertation. He's published in Telos and (once) in Urban Affairs Quarterly, but otherwise avoided ordinary academic journals (and he hasn't published in either of these venues in nearly 30 years).

    3. A great many faculty publish little. However, when they do publish they issue original research, or articles on teaching a certain subject, or book reviews. He's done some of this last, but mostly he just writes essays or extended newspaper columns.

    4. All of which is to say that in the ordinary course of events, he'd be at a community college, or at a 4th tier school, or at some branch campus. Instead, he's had several handsome appointments at research universities.

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    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Paleo Liberal

    "whites are a bit scared of angry blacks"

    Only if there's more than two of them and I'm not carrying.

  127. “and then in 2004 in her late 40s got married to a man, the ex-husband of one of her old birthing coach business clients.”

    Geesh, am I the only square here or does this sound particularly wretched? So she “coached” a lady in the intricacies of childbirth and then stole her husband? If so, she is clearly not a nice or ethical person. I am sure more juicy bits will continue to come out about her as her status increases.

    • Replies: @Prosa123
    @PaceLaw

    "So she "coached" a lady in the intricacies of childbirth"

    She blew a whistle at her and made her run laps?

  128. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    Actually, I've rather exceeded my modest expectations for myself. That I've turned out to be the most insightful intellectual of my time is not something I ever anticipated. It's rather alarming, in fact...

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    I’m too insightful for my shirt
    Too insightful for my shirt
    So insightful it hurts!

  129. @Franz

    Hail’s theory is that DiAngelo is basically a blue-collar prole by upbringing who has always resented the kind of white-collar office workers she is paid to harangue.
     
    Hail can keep his theory.

    As an actual blue-collar person from a very blue-collar area, I can tell you she has "plant" markers plastered all over her. I doubt she was chosen by an intelligence agency. Maybe a publisher wanted to spice the catalog up and picked her as a Dark Horse publishing phenom. But there was surely some agency money involved. She's a highly probable phony.

    At the risk of being called the Lesser Miles Mathis, I tell you stuff like this don't happen. Blue collar workers I have known have written well of their war experiences, along with "grapes of wrath" books about the Rustbelt era, and none got so much as a "maybe". And they were well-vetted manuscripts, I saw a few. But the American experience as real American experience it is no longer welcome at publishers row.

    And as you sagely noted, cancelling her will be a breeze when her spiel goes stale.

    Replies: @anon, @Federalist

    Hail can keep his theory.

    As an actual blue-collar person from a very blue-collar area, I can tell you she has “plant” markers plastered all over her.

    Did you read what Hail wrote? He researched and wrote two well reasoned articles on Robin DiAngelo’s biography and on the rise of DiAngelo’s “white fragility” concept. Of course, Hail may be wrong but his theory is supported by more than your ability as a person with a blue collar background to identify “plant markers.”

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    @Federalist


    Did you read what Hail wrote?
     
    Yes but his context is lacking.

    Look, I wasn't always an old foundryman, I was an editor when I got out of the service. I fled back to honesty when I was apprised of what was happening, and why. Hot metal is more honorable.

    Between Portnoy's Complaint in 1969 and Fear of Flying in 1973, a sea-change took place in US publishing. Novels and even nonfiction was henceforth tightly controlled; the CIA's infiltration of the television networks was done by then, they wanted the rest.

    By the mid-70s books were all basically submitted to a censor, it's the only thing that you can call them, but let the proof be what you see: Very few publisher's row books are worth it. Most of the stuff people read is on the net or from small outfits, or pay-your-own way book publishing.

    This can only be apprised by example, here's a good one:

    https://www.islam-radio.net/historia/ihr2/ihr-3.htm

    The relevant section in case the link goes dead (always possible):

    At one meeting, at MCA-Universal (the studio which produced "Schindler's List"), the discussion was interrupted when a latecomer entered the studio head's office and took a seat next to Marchetti. He was a little, nondescript person who seemed out of place in the production meeting. The studio head halted the discussion and, turning to the little man, asked if he bad any problems with the project after having read the treatment, an abbreviated script. The man, speaking with a foreign accent, said no, smiled at Marchetti, and departed.

    "Who is he?" Marchetti asked the studio head.

    The powerful Hollywood boss answered, "He's an Israeli. I just wanted to make sure there was nothing in this movie that he would not like." As the meeting continued, Marchetti began to count noses. Of the nine people in the office, Marchetti was the only non-Jew. It reminded him of many meetings he bad attended in the publishing world in New York, where often be bad been the only Gentile out of a dozen or more people discussing a book project.

    Marchetti's Jewish agent leaned over and asked in a whisper, 'What are you thinking about?"

    "Everybody in the room is Jewish except me." "Forget about that," the agent said. `You just better hope that your Jews are smarter than the studio's. We're talking big bucks."
     
    This is how it's been for a half-century, and it includes the cupcake under scrutiny. This is probably a "Soul on Ice" situation. A Black Panther named Eldridge Cleaver made some rants in a tape recorder, scribbled many notes, then turned it over to a female ghostwriter who turned it into a topical bestseller, Soul on Ice. He was praised for his style and intelligence. It was a fraud.

    My experience tells me White Fragility is less a fraud but still heavily worked to make it part of the whitey-must-die corpus. These books have to hit all the right buttons and ring all the right bells, just like Cleaver's did all those years ago. (And the song remains the same.)
  130. @Paleo Liberal
    @Art Deco

    Adolph Reed treats TNC with less respect than just about anyone else.

    True, TNC has been handsomely compensated. It’s just that white folks don’t take him as seriously as they do Wise (sorry about the misspelling).

    I think Dr Reed’s point is that white folks set a very low bar for a black writer, and lavish praise and money on TNC not because they think him a great writer, but because they think him a good writer for a black man.

    One could argue that is a form of affirmative action.

    There are also different audiences. TNC is more popular among blacks, especially black back writers who insist on overusing the phrase “black bodies”. But when white folks want to get hectored about how racist they are, they prefer to be hectored by Wise or DiAngelo. It’s almost as if whites are a bit scared of angry blacks.

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    It’s just that white folks don’t take him as seriously as they do Wise (sorry about the misspelling).

    Sez who? How is that measured?

    I think Dr Reed’s point is that white folks set a very low bar for a black writer, and lavish praise and money on TNC not because they think him a great writer, but because they think him a good writer for a black man.

    So, tell me what the complaint is. Is it that some better commentator was displaced by the patronage given Coates, or is it that Reed wants the payola for himself?

    While we’re at it, have you taken a gander at Reed’s background?

    1. His dissertation was signed at one of the institutions in the pedigree of Clark Atlanta, which itself is only notionally a research institution.

    2. He’s written a great deal of topical commentary. It’s hard to locate any actual research project or theoretical model he’s produced since finishing his dissertation. He’s published in Telos and (once) in Urban Affairs Quarterly, but otherwise avoided ordinary academic journals (and he hasn’t published in either of these venues in nearly 30 years).

    3. A great many faculty publish little. However, when they do publish they issue original research, or articles on teaching a certain subject, or book reviews. He’s done some of this last, but mostly he just writes essays or extended newspaper columns.

    4. All of which is to say that in the ordinary course of events, he’d be at a community college, or at a 4th tier school, or at some branch campus. Instead, he’s had several handsome appointments at research universities.

    • Replies: @blank-misgivings
    @Art Deco

    That's a bit unfair about Reed. He has a substantial book on W E Dubois from the late 90's. And his ideological perspective - Old Left and dismissive of woke politics is hardly amenable to getting lots of publications in mainstream social science journals.

    There are two ways to publish prolifically in those journals - add regression analyses and/or game theory to banal data gathered from opinion polls or add 'critical theory' jargon to no data at all. If you come from an old fashioned Marxist perspective like Reed you're going to be excluded from those journals and 'journalistic' pieces will seem an obvious outlet.

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  131. @Anon55uu
    Interestingly no comment in here about her publisher Beacon Press, which is owned by the Unitarian Universalist Association. Beacon previously most famously published the Pentagon Papers in 1971. The terminology of “white supremacy” etc swept through the UUA denomination pretty quickly, a few years ahead of George Floyd, with various “open letters”, denunciation of heretics, etc such that it’s almost become a new religion of anti-racism. A far cry from the Brahmin religion of, say, Nixon and Ford cabinet member Elliott Richardson 50 years earlier.

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    “the Unitarian Universalist Association”

    Just out of the USCG I took a groundskeeping/maintenance position for a Unitarian church; lasted about a year and I still couldn’t grasp what they were about. Sure, I was stoned most of the time but made an effort to understand their creed. After my year of fixing locks and smelling freshly mown lawn I decided they didn’t have one. I did notice that the males tended to be mild and the females kind of creepy.

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  132. @Paleo Liberal
    @Art Deco

    Adolph Reed treats TNC with less respect than just about anyone else.

    True, TNC has been handsomely compensated. It’s just that white folks don’t take him as seriously as they do Wise (sorry about the misspelling).

    I think Dr Reed’s point is that white folks set a very low bar for a black writer, and lavish praise and money on TNC not because they think him a great writer, but because they think him a good writer for a black man.

    One could argue that is a form of affirmative action.

    There are also different audiences. TNC is more popular among blacks, especially black back writers who insist on overusing the phrase “black bodies”. But when white folks want to get hectored about how racist they are, they prefer to be hectored by Wise or DiAngelo. It’s almost as if whites are a bit scared of angry blacks.

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    “whites are a bit scared of angry blacks”

    Only if there’s more than two of them and I’m not carrying.

  133. @Buzz Mohawk
    And who is selling Robin DiAngelo to the world, anyway?

    Behind every mediocrity who suddenly bursts upon us, there has to be some managing force. (No, I am not claiming to know who or what it is, or that it is even always the same.)

    Stacey Abrams is another good example of someone behind whom there has to be some kind of support and planning. Alexandria Ocasio-Whatever, the bartender from Westchester County is another one.

    None of these people accomplish anything on their own. They are packaged, marketed products.
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    She does have a glowering presence like that sad sack aunt that circles around big family reunions every few years. Like Barack Obama and Jordan Peterson they worked in their respective mini circuits for years in obscurity until they find their big break with something akin to the Soros Foundation.

  134. @Veracitor
    @Anon

    McWhorter is an intellectual lightweight who guards the flanks of the Establishment to pay for his affirmative-action sinecure. That does make him a good guide to the Establishment propaganda line.

    Consider McWorter's poorly-written (vide infra) 2013 Time essay ludicrously defending Rachel Jeantel against (now irrefutable) charges of perjury and dimwittedness in the "Trayvon Martin" (George Zimmerman) case. That essay is worth revisiting to review elements other than McWhorter's awkward writing. Consider this gem:



    Few fully understand that the tension between young black men and the police (and by extension, security guards, traffic cops and just about any sort of watchman) is the main thing keeping America from getting past race. If ten years went by without a story like the Martin case we’d be in a very different country.

     

    Perhaps we would be, but a fresh hoax like the Martin case every few years (latterly George Floyd) has oh-so-conveniently prevented it. McWorter wasn't fazed by the source— persistent, aggressive black violence and crime— of the "tension" to which he referred. He was just pushing the Establishment line, already prescribed seven years ago, that America should remove all obstacles ("the police," "security guards, traffic cops and just about any sort of watchman") to violent black criminals so that America can "get past race."

    "BLM," anyone? How about "defund the police?" John McWorter presaged racial antinomianism like John the Baptist foretold the advent of Christianity.

    As for McWhorter's academic pretensions, six years ago Steve Sailer riffed on a review by Oliver Kamm in The Times of London of McWhorter’s book The Language Hoax which denounces the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis.


    I was privileged to comment then (my goodness, how time flies!) as follows:


    A pardonable egocentrism (to which I, as much as anyone, am prey) leads us to think about Whorfianism mostly in individual, even self-referenced terms. If “I” don’t have a special word for powdery snow, am “I” less able to think about snow in all its varied forms? Certainly I may build up noun phrases “powdery snow; sticky snow” and slang terms like “Sierra cement” (those of you who have skiied Mammoth will understand), but perhaps “I” don’t have the legendary nival insight of the Esquimaux? If deprived by the compilers of Newspeak of terms for sophisticated concepts like declining marginal returns to capital, am I not hampered in thinking of them, since I must spend so much mental effort in circumlocution?*

    Yet the true power of today’s Newspeak, the politically-correct vocabulary mandated by the AP Style Guide, the speech codes of the universities, et cetera, lies not so much in befogging individual thought as preventing communication among individuals who might, the language-manglers fear, aggregate into groups hostile to the powers that be.

    The public use of terms such as “illegal alien” must be suppressed, not because doing so prevents individual resentment of said aliens, but because those who might organize political opposition to illegal immigration will be stifled and stymied by their inability to communicate with potential recruits to their cause. If you aren’t allowed to name an evil in public, how can you organize any opposition to it?

    McWhorter is just doing his job as a shill for the elites.** That job is to demoralize and silence the elites’ opponents, and one way to do that (just as TV talking heads denounce all criticism of elites as “crackpot conspiracy theories”) is to confuse and devalue the intellectual tools by which elite propaganda may be understood and possibly counteracted.

    Whorfianism cannot fully explain individual thought, for if it did, no new thoughts would be possible. That is obviously untrue; we see that people invent new words to go with new thoughts and life proceeds apace. But Whorfianism does help explain the difficulty of sending new thoughts through society! When an necessary word is lacking, a thought cannot be simply and quickly communicated– it must be slowly and laboriously propagated along with new vocabulary which many people past adolescence are reluctant to learn.

    So applied Whorfianism is not contemptible. McWhorter himself is applying Whorfianism in a way. He belittles Whorfianism to guard the flanks of political correctness! If anyone complains that enforcement of politically-correct restrictions on vocabulary hampers democratic discourse, McWhorter is there to show that the complainers are crackpots: vocabulary has nothing to do with thought and therefore, he implies quite maliciously, with communication.

    It is rather a different point, but I was bemused by the awkward writing McWhorter displayed in his Time essay helpfully linked by Dave Pinsen above. McWhorter refused to call Jeantel’s lies “lies,” so instead he dug into his thesaurus for euphemisms such as “dissimulate” and “feign” to describe her lies, then demonstrated that he doesn’t really understand how to use those words, writing, for example, that Jeantel “feigned on whether calling someone a cracker was racially motivated.” “Feigned on…?” Bzzzzzt! McWorter’s essay is full of solecisms. For example, he often switches tense in a confusing manner. Considering the whole thing, I suspect McWhorter calls Jeantel’s command of English “perfect” only because his is not a hell of a lot better.

    *It is natural to think along these lines, since the jargon and the concepts in most fields of study are nearly merged, very probably because our biology constrains us to accomplish most advanced thought using our human facility for verbal logic.

    **That is the price of Affirmative Action. In return for bootlicking loyalty, American elites promote blacks like McWhorter in the place of smarter middle-class whites. It’s all very clever; some of those smart middle-class whites, if they got into HYP, might actually compete with children of the elites, so they must be kept out, and the best way to keep them out is to give their spots to McWhorter-types who will not so compete, but who will make grateful and therefore more useful house servants.

     

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Anon, @Jack D, @syonredux, @ben tillman

    McWhorter is an intellectual lightweight who guards the flanks of the Establishment to pay for his affirmative-action sinecure. That does make him a good guide to the Establishment propaganda line.

    McWhorter has produced dozens of scholarly articles in the field of linguistics over the last 30 years and has a vita quite unremarkable for a faculty member at a research university.

  135. Anon[873] • Disclaimer says:
    @Veracitor
    @Anon

    McWhorter is an intellectual lightweight who guards the flanks of the Establishment to pay for his affirmative-action sinecure. That does make him a good guide to the Establishment propaganda line.

    Consider McWorter's poorly-written (vide infra) 2013 Time essay ludicrously defending Rachel Jeantel against (now irrefutable) charges of perjury and dimwittedness in the "Trayvon Martin" (George Zimmerman) case. That essay is worth revisiting to review elements other than McWhorter's awkward writing. Consider this gem:



    Few fully understand that the tension between young black men and the police (and by extension, security guards, traffic cops and just about any sort of watchman) is the main thing keeping America from getting past race. If ten years went by without a story like the Martin case we’d be in a very different country.

     

    Perhaps we would be, but a fresh hoax like the Martin case every few years (latterly George Floyd) has oh-so-conveniently prevented it. McWorter wasn't fazed by the source— persistent, aggressive black violence and crime— of the "tension" to which he referred. He was just pushing the Establishment line, already prescribed seven years ago, that America should remove all obstacles ("the police," "security guards, traffic cops and just about any sort of watchman") to violent black criminals so that America can "get past race."

    "BLM," anyone? How about "defund the police?" John McWorter presaged racial antinomianism like John the Baptist foretold the advent of Christianity.

    As for McWhorter's academic pretensions, six years ago Steve Sailer riffed on a review by Oliver Kamm in The Times of London of McWhorter’s book The Language Hoax which denounces the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis.


    I was privileged to comment then (my goodness, how time flies!) as follows:


    A pardonable egocentrism (to which I, as much as anyone, am prey) leads us to think about Whorfianism mostly in individual, even self-referenced terms. If “I” don’t have a special word for powdery snow, am “I” less able to think about snow in all its varied forms? Certainly I may build up noun phrases “powdery snow; sticky snow” and slang terms like “Sierra cement” (those of you who have skiied Mammoth will understand), but perhaps “I” don’t have the legendary nival insight of the Esquimaux? If deprived by the compilers of Newspeak of terms for sophisticated concepts like declining marginal returns to capital, am I not hampered in thinking of them, since I must spend so much mental effort in circumlocution?*

    Yet the true power of today’s Newspeak, the politically-correct vocabulary mandated by the AP Style Guide, the speech codes of the universities, et cetera, lies not so much in befogging individual thought as preventing communication among individuals who might, the language-manglers fear, aggregate into groups hostile to the powers that be.

    The public use of terms such as “illegal alien” must be suppressed, not because doing so prevents individual resentment of said aliens, but because those who might organize political opposition to illegal immigration will be stifled and stymied by their inability to communicate with potential recruits to their cause. If you aren’t allowed to name an evil in public, how can you organize any opposition to it?

    McWhorter is just doing his job as a shill for the elites.** That job is to demoralize and silence the elites’ opponents, and one way to do that (just as TV talking heads denounce all criticism of elites as “crackpot conspiracy theories”) is to confuse and devalue the intellectual tools by which elite propaganda may be understood and possibly counteracted.

    Whorfianism cannot fully explain individual thought, for if it did, no new thoughts would be possible. That is obviously untrue; we see that people invent new words to go with new thoughts and life proceeds apace. But Whorfianism does help explain the difficulty of sending new thoughts through society! When an necessary word is lacking, a thought cannot be simply and quickly communicated– it must be slowly and laboriously propagated along with new vocabulary which many people past adolescence are reluctant to learn.

    So applied Whorfianism is not contemptible. McWhorter himself is applying Whorfianism in a way. He belittles Whorfianism to guard the flanks of political correctness! If anyone complains that enforcement of politically-correct restrictions on vocabulary hampers democratic discourse, McWhorter is there to show that the complainers are crackpots: vocabulary has nothing to do with thought and therefore, he implies quite maliciously, with communication.

    It is rather a different point, but I was bemused by the awkward writing McWhorter displayed in his Time essay helpfully linked by Dave Pinsen above. McWhorter refused to call Jeantel’s lies “lies,” so instead he dug into his thesaurus for euphemisms such as “dissimulate” and “feign” to describe her lies, then demonstrated that he doesn’t really understand how to use those words, writing, for example, that Jeantel “feigned on whether calling someone a cracker was racially motivated.” “Feigned on…?” Bzzzzzt! McWorter’s essay is full of solecisms. For example, he often switches tense in a confusing manner. Considering the whole thing, I suspect McWhorter calls Jeantel’s command of English “perfect” only because his is not a hell of a lot better.

    *It is natural to think along these lines, since the jargon and the concepts in most fields of study are nearly merged, very probably because our biology constrains us to accomplish most advanced thought using our human facility for verbal logic.

    **That is the price of Affirmative Action. In return for bootlicking loyalty, American elites promote blacks like McWhorter in the place of smarter middle-class whites. It’s all very clever; some of those smart middle-class whites, if they got into HYP, might actually compete with children of the elites, so they must be kept out, and the best way to keep them out is to give their spots to McWhorter-types who will not so compete, but who will make grateful and therefore more useful house servants.

     

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Anon, @Jack D, @syonredux, @ben tillman

    Your criticism of McWhorter still comes down to him holding racially paternalistic views towards black people, which are most of the time (and that is an important qualifier) fully in keeping with the left orthodoxy. You mistake disagreement or being wrong, with lack of general ability.

    In fact inadvertently you demonstrate that he is rather more, not less capable in his sophistry than white elites, so again the notion he is an “affirmative action” case is simply petty and insupportable.

    McWhorter perfectly fits Sowell’s critique of liberal intelligentsia as possessing great ‘verbal virtuosity’ in the absence of quantitative abilities or practical experience.

    You still fail to acknowledge that McWhorter at times holds views that challenge the left’s racial claims, and not, as in the case of Xendi or Coates, that merely make a more zealous ‘blackety-black’ claim, which is the template of radicalism that white elites expect and prefer. If McWhorter really held a mere sinecure, he would not be so bold.

  136. @Anon55uu
    Interestingly no comment in here about her publisher Beacon Press, which is owned by the Unitarian Universalist Association. Beacon previously most famously published the Pentagon Papers in 1971. The terminology of “white supremacy” etc swept through the UUA denomination pretty quickly, a few years ahead of George Floyd, with various “open letters”, denunciation of heretics, etc such that it’s almost become a new religion of anti-racism. A far cry from the Brahmin religion of, say, Nixon and Ford cabinet member Elliott Richardson 50 years earlier.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @duncsbaby, @Paco Wové, @Peter D. Bredon, @SolontoCroesus, @SunBakedSuburb, @Kronos, @Dumbo, @Hibernian

    Any idea if they make any serious money on woke books?

    Typically the phrase “go woke, go broke” seems generally true.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Kronos

    Probably there is some racket where corporate/government employees force to sit thru the D.I.E. class are also supposed to read one of their books as required reading and the corporation/agency buys a bunch of the books at the same time as the engage they author as a lecturer. It's all part of the extortion racket and no one in their right mind would buy or read such a book voluntarily in order to be lectured on what a horrible race he belongs to.

  137. @Altai
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZfiSjTHVqA

    No mention of DiAngelo is complete without this clip of lockdown Jimmy Fallon quickly making up for the blackface clip that went viral after 20 years. Look at his face, look at her face.

    She's got those crazy eyes and a constant smirk. That's what a lot of these types have. Call it cluster B face.

    Replies: @Steve in Greensboro, @James O'Meara, @SunBakedSuburb, @anon

    “She’s got those crazy eyes and a constant smirk.”

    She’s a high-functioning psychopath grown rich from selling her particular snake-oil. She’s a Great American.

  138. @Dumbo

    But if we take her at her word that she will turn 64 in September, what strikes me about this outline of her life is how boring and depressing her career has been until her very recently getting rich and honored. To call her an “academic,” for instance, gives the wrong impression because she’s from the prole depths of the most lowbrow academia.
     
    There's nothing particularly boring or depressing about it. It's just a pretty normal/average life, like that of millions of people. Actually, above average, if you think about it.

    In contrast, compare the career of well-paid gender theorist Judith Butler, who was born the same year as DiAngelo. Butler is famous/notorious for an opaque prose style that is catnip to grad students while impenetrable to civilians:
     
    You're taking them at face value. It's all a scam. You're taking seriously the pretentiousness of these people, and their fake intellectualism, and their credentials and their supposed academic bona fides. Butler is Jewish, which is like being royalty in Academia. Di Angelo isn't. Just that should give you the hint.

    I know many people getting academic jobs whose basic shtick is that a) they are Jewish b) they have good connections and in general excel at networking. They also publish a lot, but that's helped by b. They are hard-working, I suppose, and they are certainly not dumb, but also no geniuses.

    I prefer someone like Di Angelo. The problem of the fetishization of IQ in HBD circles is that they tend to actually believe in the "superiority" of people like Butler, who is useless, and not even that smart, just born and connected to the right people.

    Replies: @utu, @syonredux, @Grumpy, @syonredux

    Mr. Sailer has actually made me appreciate DiAngelo’s accomplishments. The people who know how to play the academic game are impressive in their own way. If you don’t mind cynically spouting whatever nonsense people want to hear, you can go far. A lot of modern life is like that. Some people are born on second base, but DiAngelo wasn’t.

    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
    @Grumpy

    Teaching is a "safe" profession with low risk career path; it should follow that the rewards are commensurate.

    First of all, it is physically safe, or at least should be which is one reason it is so appealing to women. The work is all daytime hours, indoors, there is no heavy lifting or chance of being injured, there is no sweating or traveling, etc. Di Angelo and her over permed hair, pressed blouse, and fussy glasses looks the part. (BTW. her youthful appearance probably has something to do with plastic surgery).

    But it is also far less risky financially. It is usually a government job so there is a relatively high floor to wages including people starting out and they get health insurance. It is also impossible to get fired. The problem is that there is an oversupply of people willing to do the job so it caps out what someone can earn on the high end. You are also part of a herd. The exception it seems are people selling snake oil so they can rise in the hierarchy or get their 15 minutes of fame. This where they have to go from being woke to being malignantly woke.

  139. @Kronos
    @Anon55uu

    Any idea if they make any serious money on woke books?

    Typically the phrase “go woke, go broke” seems generally true.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Probably there is some racket where corporate/government employees force to sit thru the D.I.E. class are also supposed to read one of their books as required reading and the corporation/agency buys a bunch of the books at the same time as the engage they author as a lecturer. It’s all part of the extortion racket and no one in their right mind would buy or read such a book voluntarily in order to be lectured on what a horrible race he belongs to.

  140. Anon[127] • Disclaimer says:

    D’Angelo is old and grey-haired now. Her book uses a picture that must be about 20 years old.

    Many in the diversity workshop business are just garden variety sadists. The diversity workshop is a legal way for them to harangue people who cant walk out or argue back. That line of work attracts hate-filled sadists who enjoy making people get upset.

  141. @Veracitor
    @Anon

    McWhorter is an intellectual lightweight who guards the flanks of the Establishment to pay for his affirmative-action sinecure. That does make him a good guide to the Establishment propaganda line.

    Consider McWorter's poorly-written (vide infra) 2013 Time essay ludicrously defending Rachel Jeantel against (now irrefutable) charges of perjury and dimwittedness in the "Trayvon Martin" (George Zimmerman) case. That essay is worth revisiting to review elements other than McWhorter's awkward writing. Consider this gem:



    Few fully understand that the tension between young black men and the police (and by extension, security guards, traffic cops and just about any sort of watchman) is the main thing keeping America from getting past race. If ten years went by without a story like the Martin case we’d be in a very different country.

     

    Perhaps we would be, but a fresh hoax like the Martin case every few years (latterly George Floyd) has oh-so-conveniently prevented it. McWorter wasn't fazed by the source— persistent, aggressive black violence and crime— of the "tension" to which he referred. He was just pushing the Establishment line, already prescribed seven years ago, that America should remove all obstacles ("the police," "security guards, traffic cops and just about any sort of watchman") to violent black criminals so that America can "get past race."

    "BLM," anyone? How about "defund the police?" John McWorter presaged racial antinomianism like John the Baptist foretold the advent of Christianity.

    As for McWhorter's academic pretensions, six years ago Steve Sailer riffed on a review by Oliver Kamm in The Times of London of McWhorter’s book The Language Hoax which denounces the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis.


    I was privileged to comment then (my goodness, how time flies!) as follows:


    A pardonable egocentrism (to which I, as much as anyone, am prey) leads us to think about Whorfianism mostly in individual, even self-referenced terms. If “I” don’t have a special word for powdery snow, am “I” less able to think about snow in all its varied forms? Certainly I may build up noun phrases “powdery snow; sticky snow” and slang terms like “Sierra cement” (those of you who have skiied Mammoth will understand), but perhaps “I” don’t have the legendary nival insight of the Esquimaux? If deprived by the compilers of Newspeak of terms for sophisticated concepts like declining marginal returns to capital, am I not hampered in thinking of them, since I must spend so much mental effort in circumlocution?*

    Yet the true power of today’s Newspeak, the politically-correct vocabulary mandated by the AP Style Guide, the speech codes of the universities, et cetera, lies not so much in befogging individual thought as preventing communication among individuals who might, the language-manglers fear, aggregate into groups hostile to the powers that be.

    The public use of terms such as “illegal alien” must be suppressed, not because doing so prevents individual resentment of said aliens, but because those who might organize political opposition to illegal immigration will be stifled and stymied by their inability to communicate with potential recruits to their cause. If you aren’t allowed to name an evil in public, how can you organize any opposition to it?

    McWhorter is just doing his job as a shill for the elites.** That job is to demoralize and silence the elites’ opponents, and one way to do that (just as TV talking heads denounce all criticism of elites as “crackpot conspiracy theories”) is to confuse and devalue the intellectual tools by which elite propaganda may be understood and possibly counteracted.

    Whorfianism cannot fully explain individual thought, for if it did, no new thoughts would be possible. That is obviously untrue; we see that people invent new words to go with new thoughts and life proceeds apace. But Whorfianism does help explain the difficulty of sending new thoughts through society! When an necessary word is lacking, a thought cannot be simply and quickly communicated– it must be slowly and laboriously propagated along with new vocabulary which many people past adolescence are reluctant to learn.

    So applied Whorfianism is not contemptible. McWhorter himself is applying Whorfianism in a way. He belittles Whorfianism to guard the flanks of political correctness! If anyone complains that enforcement of politically-correct restrictions on vocabulary hampers democratic discourse, McWhorter is there to show that the complainers are crackpots: vocabulary has nothing to do with thought and therefore, he implies quite maliciously, with communication.

    It is rather a different point, but I was bemused by the awkward writing McWhorter displayed in his Time essay helpfully linked by Dave Pinsen above. McWhorter refused to call Jeantel’s lies “lies,” so instead he dug into his thesaurus for euphemisms such as “dissimulate” and “feign” to describe her lies, then demonstrated that he doesn’t really understand how to use those words, writing, for example, that Jeantel “feigned on whether calling someone a cracker was racially motivated.” “Feigned on…?” Bzzzzzt! McWorter’s essay is full of solecisms. For example, he often switches tense in a confusing manner. Considering the whole thing, I suspect McWhorter calls Jeantel’s command of English “perfect” only because his is not a hell of a lot better.

    *It is natural to think along these lines, since the jargon and the concepts in most fields of study are nearly merged, very probably because our biology constrains us to accomplish most advanced thought using our human facility for verbal logic.

    **That is the price of Affirmative Action. In return for bootlicking loyalty, American elites promote blacks like McWhorter in the place of smarter middle-class whites. It’s all very clever; some of those smart middle-class whites, if they got into HYP, might actually compete with children of the elites, so they must be kept out, and the best way to keep them out is to give their spots to McWhorter-types who will not so compete, but who will make grateful and therefore more useful house servants.

     

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Anon, @Jack D, @syonredux, @ben tillman

    I have to say that what you wrote has held up very well . Often stuff written in the past ages like milk because the times move on (who 7 years ago would have expected Trump to be the POTUS?) but what you said back then applies with equal relevance today.

    Ten years are NEVER going to pass without another “Martin” type case because blacks are never going to cease their criminality. The only way we could go 10 years without such an incident is if blacks were given complete license to rampage at will and I don’t think that is going to happen, except for a very brief period – the backlash would be so strong that it would sweep aside those who supported it and the pendulum would swing back in the other direction. Years ago Dinkins tried something like this in NYC (not exactly a bastion of right wing reaction) and his first term as mayor was also his last. The good news about BLM is that the more “successful” their “abolish the police” initiatives are now, the greater the backlash is going to be in the future.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    The only way we could go 10 years without such an incident is if blacks were given complete license to rampage at will a

    The way we go 10 years without such an incident is if the chain of causation is broken with reference to each one.


    1. Ben Crump / Ryan Julison show up and the family tells them to buzz off.

    2. Local police and prosecutors handle the case by the book

    3. Sorosphere rioters are dealt with harshly and with overwhelming force.

    4. Politicians are not influenced by the mayhem.


    Other helpful measures: NYT v. Sullivan gets rescinded. In a sane world, George Zimmerman would have had an excellent defamation case against an NBC affiliate. Another thing that would be great: a successful RICO suit which rolls up the entire sorosphere operation.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Whiskey
    @Jack D

    No. Blm are the new police. Xavier Becerra is charging Jackie Laceys hubby for having a gun in his own home. He will spend years in prison.

    When Biden the either of those two clapped out whores Harris or Rice take over all blacks will have the right to do whatever to Whitey and any resistance will be the only capital crime.

    The cops were already replaced. The new ones are anti fa, blm and the NFAC army.

    You just didn't notice.

    The dream of Nike .... Every White male in a slave labor camp making air jordans, every White woman a Kardashian is almost here.

  142. @prosa123
    @Jack D

    Many former normal schools are today known as directional colleges, in other words they have a compass direction or some variation thereof in their names. Two examples given in this thread are University of Northern Iowa and Northeastern Illinois State University. Some have changed their names more than once. A particularly amusing example is Central Connecticut State University, founded before the Civil War as State Normal School, renamed Connecticut State Teachers' College in the 1920's, Central Connecticut State College in 1950, and finally its present name in 1983; at the time of the last renaming there were still quite a few people around who had graduated when it was still the State Normal School.

    Other hints on college names: in many states, University of [state] is the flagship university while [state] State University is the land grant. Iowa, Michigan, Kansas and North Carolina are examples. In some Southern states, such as South Carolina and Alabama, [state] State University are HBCU's; the land grants in those two states are Clemson and Auburn, respectively. Indiana is another unusual case, as Indiana State University is the former normal school, not the land grant (which is Purdue).

    Replies: @Oo-ee-oo-ah-ah-ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang

    This applies to Arizona as well

  143. @Jack D
    @Veracitor

    I have to say that what you wrote has held up very well . Often stuff written in the past ages like milk because the times move on (who 7 years ago would have expected Trump to be the POTUS?) but what you said back then applies with equal relevance today.

    Ten years are NEVER going to pass without another "Martin" type case because blacks are never going to cease their criminality. The only way we could go 10 years without such an incident is if blacks were given complete license to rampage at will and I don't think that is going to happen, except for a very brief period - the backlash would be so strong that it would sweep aside those who supported it and the pendulum would swing back in the other direction. Years ago Dinkins tried something like this in NYC (not exactly a bastion of right wing reaction) and his first term as mayor was also his last. The good news about BLM is that the more "successful" their "abolish the police" initiatives are now, the greater the backlash is going to be in the future.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Whiskey

    The only way we could go 10 years without such an incident is if blacks were given complete license to rampage at will a

    The way we go 10 years without such an incident is if the chain of causation is broken with reference to each one.

    1. Ben Crump / Ryan Julison show up and the family tells them to buzz off.

    2. Local police and prosecutors handle the case by the book

    3. Sorosphere rioters are dealt with harshly and with overwhelming force.

    4. Politicians are not influenced by the mayhem.

    Other helpful measures: NYT v. Sullivan gets rescinded. In a sane world, George Zimmerman would have had an excellent defamation case against an NBC affiliate. Another thing that would be great: a successful RICO suit which rolls up the entire sorosphere operation.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    None of those are happening, in particular not #1. Having their worthless Fentanyl addicted relative getting offed by the popo is like a winning the Pick 6 lotto for these ghetto families. You are looking at a high $ settlement from the gubmint. LaTanya Haggerty's family got $18 million.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/28/us/police-shootings-payouts.html

    I am a very principled person but for $18 million even I would put out tea and crumpets for Ben Crump.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  144. @Art Deco
    @Paleo Liberal

    It’s just that white folks don’t take him as seriously as they do Wise (sorry about the misspelling).

    Sez who? How is that measured?



    I think Dr Reed’s point is that white folks set a very low bar for a black writer, and lavish praise and money on TNC not because they think him a great writer, but because they think him a good writer for a black man.

    So, tell me what the complaint is. Is it that some better commentator was displaced by the patronage given Coates, or is it that Reed wants the payola for himself?



    While we're at it, have you taken a gander at Reed's background?

    1. His dissertation was signed at one of the institutions in the pedigree of Clark Atlanta, which itself is only notionally a research institution.

    2. He's written a great deal of topical commentary. It's hard to locate any actual research project or theoretical model he's produced since finishing his dissertation. He's published in Telos and (once) in Urban Affairs Quarterly, but otherwise avoided ordinary academic journals (and he hasn't published in either of these venues in nearly 30 years).

    3. A great many faculty publish little. However, when they do publish they issue original research, or articles on teaching a certain subject, or book reviews. He's done some of this last, but mostly he just writes essays or extended newspaper columns.

    4. All of which is to say that in the ordinary course of events, he'd be at a community college, or at a 4th tier school, or at some branch campus. Instead, he's had several handsome appointments at research universities.

    Replies: @blank-misgivings

    That’s a bit unfair about Reed. He has a substantial book on W E Dubois from the late 90’s. And his ideological perspective – Old Left and dismissive of woke politics is hardly amenable to getting lots of publications in mainstream social science journals.

    There are two ways to publish prolifically in those journals – add regression analyses and/or game theory to banal data gathered from opinion polls or add ‘critical theory’ jargon to no data at all. If you come from an old fashioned Marxist perspective like Reed you’re going to be excluded from those journals and ‘journalistic’ pieces will seem an obvious outlet.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @blank-misgivings

    That’s a bit unfair about Reed. He has a substantial book on W E Dubois from the late 90’s. And his ideological perspective – Old Left and dismissive of woke politics is hardly amenable to getting lots of publications in mainstream social science journals.

    He would have no trouble publishing in academic journals if he bothered to compose theoretical models, write historical pieces, write literature reviews, or publish empirical analyses. He's supposedly a political scientist, but he's published almost nothing in political science literature. There are scads of journals - top rung, middle rung, and lower rung. Even someone as outre as Mark Regnerus (who has been subject to harrassment by the American Sociological Association) has a publication record. So did Paul Cameron.

    If I'm not mistaken, his original work on duBois was done in the late 1970s.

  145. anon[274] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZfiSjTHVqA

    No mention of DiAngelo is complete without this clip of lockdown Jimmy Fallon quickly making up for the blackface clip that went viral after 20 years. Look at his face, look at her face.

    She's got those crazy eyes and a constant smirk. That's what a lot of these types have. Call it cluster B face.

    Replies: @Steve in Greensboro, @James O'Meara, @SunBakedSuburb, @anon

    Sitting still to listen to that tedious, whining voice for the entire clip is a lot like being at the dentist…and I just got back from dental work so I know what I mean. However DiAngelo did say one thing that is interesting, I paraphrase: white racism (unconscious and conscious) is continually causing black people to self-suppress, in other words black people cannot be their true selves in America because of white racism.

    In other words, if only white raycism would go away, black people would be free to express their true natures without fear. But since all whites are rayciss, what to do, what to do? Her midwit IQ is really on display here, by the way, because…uh, because…well… she’s arguing for separation… without even realizing it.

    LOL.

    • Agree: JackOH
  146. @Dumbo

    But if we take her at her word that she will turn 64 in September, what strikes me about this outline of her life is how boring and depressing her career has been until her very recently getting rich and honored. To call her an “academic,” for instance, gives the wrong impression because she’s from the prole depths of the most lowbrow academia.
     
    There's nothing particularly boring or depressing about it. It's just a pretty normal/average life, like that of millions of people. Actually, above average, if you think about it.

    In contrast, compare the career of well-paid gender theorist Judith Butler, who was born the same year as DiAngelo. Butler is famous/notorious for an opaque prose style that is catnip to grad students while impenetrable to civilians:
     
    You're taking them at face value. It's all a scam. You're taking seriously the pretentiousness of these people, and their fake intellectualism, and their credentials and their supposed academic bona fides. Butler is Jewish, which is like being royalty in Academia. Di Angelo isn't. Just that should give you the hint.

    I know many people getting academic jobs whose basic shtick is that a) they are Jewish b) they have good connections and in general excel at networking. They also publish a lot, but that's helped by b. They are hard-working, I suppose, and they are certainly not dumb, but also no geniuses.

    I prefer someone like Di Angelo. The problem of the fetishization of IQ in HBD circles is that they tend to actually believe in the "superiority" of people like Butler, who is useless, and not even that smart, just born and connected to the right people.

    Replies: @utu, @syonredux, @Grumpy, @syonredux

    And I left out another powerful academic clique, the LGBTQs. There are a decent number of English Lit departments that are basically run by the LGBTQ mafia. Of course, the LGBTQ mafia overlaps with the Jews to a considerable degree. For example, I once taught at a smaller uni where all of the male Jews were Gay. Two of them were “married,” and everyone knew that they were the power couple in the department.

  147. @Veracitor
    @Anon

    McWhorter is an intellectual lightweight who guards the flanks of the Establishment to pay for his affirmative-action sinecure. That does make him a good guide to the Establishment propaganda line.

    Consider McWorter's poorly-written (vide infra) 2013 Time essay ludicrously defending Rachel Jeantel against (now irrefutable) charges of perjury and dimwittedness in the "Trayvon Martin" (George Zimmerman) case. That essay is worth revisiting to review elements other than McWhorter's awkward writing. Consider this gem:



    Few fully understand that the tension between young black men and the police (and by extension, security guards, traffic cops and just about any sort of watchman) is the main thing keeping America from getting past race. If ten years went by without a story like the Martin case we’d be in a very different country.

     

    Perhaps we would be, but a fresh hoax like the Martin case every few years (latterly George Floyd) has oh-so-conveniently prevented it. McWorter wasn't fazed by the source— persistent, aggressive black violence and crime— of the "tension" to which he referred. He was just pushing the Establishment line, already prescribed seven years ago, that America should remove all obstacles ("the police," "security guards, traffic cops and just about any sort of watchman") to violent black criminals so that America can "get past race."

    "BLM," anyone? How about "defund the police?" John McWorter presaged racial antinomianism like John the Baptist foretold the advent of Christianity.

    As for McWhorter's academic pretensions, six years ago Steve Sailer riffed on a review by Oliver Kamm in The Times of London of McWhorter’s book The Language Hoax which denounces the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis.


    I was privileged to comment then (my goodness, how time flies!) as follows:


    A pardonable egocentrism (to which I, as much as anyone, am prey) leads us to think about Whorfianism mostly in individual, even self-referenced terms. If “I” don’t have a special word for powdery snow, am “I” less able to think about snow in all its varied forms? Certainly I may build up noun phrases “powdery snow; sticky snow” and slang terms like “Sierra cement” (those of you who have skiied Mammoth will understand), but perhaps “I” don’t have the legendary nival insight of the Esquimaux? If deprived by the compilers of Newspeak of terms for sophisticated concepts like declining marginal returns to capital, am I not hampered in thinking of them, since I must spend so much mental effort in circumlocution?*

    Yet the true power of today’s Newspeak, the politically-correct vocabulary mandated by the AP Style Guide, the speech codes of the universities, et cetera, lies not so much in befogging individual thought as preventing communication among individuals who might, the language-manglers fear, aggregate into groups hostile to the powers that be.

    The public use of terms such as “illegal alien” must be suppressed, not because doing so prevents individual resentment of said aliens, but because those who might organize political opposition to illegal immigration will be stifled and stymied by their inability to communicate with potential recruits to their cause. If you aren’t allowed to name an evil in public, how can you organize any opposition to it?

    McWhorter is just doing his job as a shill for the elites.** That job is to demoralize and silence the elites’ opponents, and one way to do that (just as TV talking heads denounce all criticism of elites as “crackpot conspiracy theories”) is to confuse and devalue the intellectual tools by which elite propaganda may be understood and possibly counteracted.

    Whorfianism cannot fully explain individual thought, for if it did, no new thoughts would be possible. That is obviously untrue; we see that people invent new words to go with new thoughts and life proceeds apace. But Whorfianism does help explain the difficulty of sending new thoughts through society! When an necessary word is lacking, a thought cannot be simply and quickly communicated– it must be slowly and laboriously propagated along with new vocabulary which many people past adolescence are reluctant to learn.

    So applied Whorfianism is not contemptible. McWhorter himself is applying Whorfianism in a way. He belittles Whorfianism to guard the flanks of political correctness! If anyone complains that enforcement of politically-correct restrictions on vocabulary hampers democratic discourse, McWhorter is there to show that the complainers are crackpots: vocabulary has nothing to do with thought and therefore, he implies quite maliciously, with communication.

    It is rather a different point, but I was bemused by the awkward writing McWhorter displayed in his Time essay helpfully linked by Dave Pinsen above. McWhorter refused to call Jeantel’s lies “lies,” so instead he dug into his thesaurus for euphemisms such as “dissimulate” and “feign” to describe her lies, then demonstrated that he doesn’t really understand how to use those words, writing, for example, that Jeantel “feigned on whether calling someone a cracker was racially motivated.” “Feigned on…?” Bzzzzzt! McWorter’s essay is full of solecisms. For example, he often switches tense in a confusing manner. Considering the whole thing, I suspect McWhorter calls Jeantel’s command of English “perfect” only because his is not a hell of a lot better.

    *It is natural to think along these lines, since the jargon and the concepts in most fields of study are nearly merged, very probably because our biology constrains us to accomplish most advanced thought using our human facility for verbal logic.

    **That is the price of Affirmative Action. In return for bootlicking loyalty, American elites promote blacks like McWhorter in the place of smarter middle-class whites. It’s all very clever; some of those smart middle-class whites, if they got into HYP, might actually compete with children of the elites, so they must be kept out, and the best way to keep them out is to give their spots to McWhorter-types who will not so compete, but who will make grateful and therefore more useful house servants.

     

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Anon, @Jack D, @syonredux, @ben tillman

    McWhorter is an intellectual lightweight

    But when compared to a flyweight like Ibram X Kendi………

  148. @Anon55uu
    Interestingly no comment in here about her publisher Beacon Press, which is owned by the Unitarian Universalist Association. Beacon previously most famously published the Pentagon Papers in 1971. The terminology of “white supremacy” etc swept through the UUA denomination pretty quickly, a few years ahead of George Floyd, with various “open letters”, denunciation of heretics, etc such that it’s almost become a new religion of anti-racism. A far cry from the Brahmin religion of, say, Nixon and Ford cabinet member Elliott Richardson 50 years earlier.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @duncsbaby, @Paco Wové, @Peter D. Bredon, @SolontoCroesus, @SunBakedSuburb, @Kronos, @Dumbo, @Hibernian

    I had no idea about this “Unitarian” Universalist Church and after having briefly looked at it in Wikipedia, I am none the wiser. What exactly do they believe in? Do they perform mass? They don’t even seem to believe in God or in Jesus. Maybe they now worship St. Floyd, or the Coronavirus?

    • Replies: @anon
    @Dumbo

    As far as I can tell from listening to UU's:

    Unitarianism and Universalism are 19th century spiritualist movements originating in New England often from former Quaker and Congregationalist churches. You can get something of a debate going between Quakers and UU's over Walt Whitman - was he one, or the other, or a little of both?

    What exactly do they believe in?

    They tend to be part of the "spiritual but not religious" group of people.

    Do they perform mass?

    No.

    They don’t even seem to believe in God or in Jesus.

    Christians are expected to accept the Trinity. Thus they are Trinitarians.

    The UU's are Unitarians. This should be clarifying.

    Universalism as far as I can tell is another "spiritual but not religious" grouping that insists all people are essentially good and will go to some kind of positive afterlife, because God (whatever that means) is Love so...no judging!

    Merging Unitarianism with Universalism results in a kind of church of niceness that shades into SJWism. My local UU has had a rainbow flag for years, and added BLM signs sometime since 2018.

    , @Prosa123
    @Dumbo

    I've heard that UU members vary greatly in what they believe or don't believe, with the doctrine trying to accommodate all views. In past years it was a reasonably popular choice among people who had too little faith to belong to other denominations but weren't outright atheists and still wanted to attend some sort of religious worship,something like the Ethical Culture movement found in New York and a few other cities. Most likely that doesn't happen much anymore, and it's more like a social club than an actual church. I've even heard stories about their activities functioning as meeting places for affluent, somewhat older single people.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Uncle Jack
    @Dumbo

    Here's the Unitarian Prayer:

    O God (if you exist)
    Have Mercy on my Soul (if I have one.)

    Further:

    What do you get if you cross a Jehovah's Witness with a Unitarian?

    Answer: Somebody who goes door to door, talking about nothing in particular.

    I hope this helps.

  149. @blank-misgivings
    @Art Deco

    That's a bit unfair about Reed. He has a substantial book on W E Dubois from the late 90's. And his ideological perspective - Old Left and dismissive of woke politics is hardly amenable to getting lots of publications in mainstream social science journals.

    There are two ways to publish prolifically in those journals - add regression analyses and/or game theory to banal data gathered from opinion polls or add 'critical theory' jargon to no data at all. If you come from an old fashioned Marxist perspective like Reed you're going to be excluded from those journals and 'journalistic' pieces will seem an obvious outlet.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    That’s a bit unfair about Reed. He has a substantial book on W E Dubois from the late 90’s. And his ideological perspective – Old Left and dismissive of woke politics is hardly amenable to getting lots of publications in mainstream social science journals.

    He would have no trouble publishing in academic journals if he bothered to compose theoretical models, write historical pieces, write literature reviews, or publish empirical analyses. He’s supposedly a political scientist, but he’s published almost nothing in political science literature. There are scads of journals – top rung, middle rung, and lower rung. Even someone as outre as Mark Regnerus (who has been subject to harrassment by the American Sociological Association) has a publication record. So did Paul Cameron.

    If I’m not mistaken, his original work on duBois was done in the late 1970s.

  150. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    The only way we could go 10 years without such an incident is if blacks were given complete license to rampage at will a

    The way we go 10 years without such an incident is if the chain of causation is broken with reference to each one.


    1. Ben Crump / Ryan Julison show up and the family tells them to buzz off.

    2. Local police and prosecutors handle the case by the book

    3. Sorosphere rioters are dealt with harshly and with overwhelming force.

    4. Politicians are not influenced by the mayhem.


    Other helpful measures: NYT v. Sullivan gets rescinded. In a sane world, George Zimmerman would have had an excellent defamation case against an NBC affiliate. Another thing that would be great: a successful RICO suit which rolls up the entire sorosphere operation.

    Replies: @Jack D

    None of those are happening, in particular not #1. Having their worthless Fentanyl addicted relative getting offed by the popo is like a winning the Pick 6 lotto for these ghetto families. You are looking at a high $ settlement from the gubmint. LaTanya Haggerty’s family got $18 million.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/28/us/police-shootings-payouts.html

    I am a very principled person but for $18 million even I would put out tea and crumpets for Ben Crump.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    None of those are happening, in particular not #1. Having their worthless Fentanyl addicted relative getting offed by the popo is like a winning the Pick 6 lotto for these ghetto families.

    There are about 150 blacks killed by police officers in a typical year. How many win the lottery? Winning the lottery a la Freddie Gray's family requires a complete abandonment of fiduciary duty by the corporation counsel (under his own steam or at the insistence of worthless pols like Stephanie Rawlings Blake). It also helps when the state's attorney can buffalo the coroner into making a bogus ruling.

    (Btw, I don't recall TM's parents had any sort of claim against any party).

  151. @Buzz Mohawk
    And who is selling Robin DiAngelo to the world, anyway?

    Behind every mediocrity who suddenly bursts upon us, there has to be some managing force. (No, I am not claiming to know who or what it is, or that it is even always the same.)

    Stacey Abrams is another good example of someone behind whom there has to be some kind of support and planning. Alexandria Ocasio-Whatever, the bartender from Westchester County is another one.

    None of these people accomplish anything on their own. They are packaged, marketed products.
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    And who is selling Robin DiAngelo to the world, anyway?

    Behind every mediocrity who suddenly bursts upon us, there has to be some managing force.

    Some of us are still trying to figure out how Pastor Scofield got his new and improved bible published by Oxford University Press.

  152. @Buzz Mohawk
    And who is selling Robin DiAngelo to the world, anyway?

    Behind every mediocrity who suddenly bursts upon us, there has to be some managing force. (No, I am not claiming to know who or what it is, or that it is even always the same.)

    Stacey Abrams is another good example of someone behind whom there has to be some kind of support and planning. Alexandria Ocasio-Whatever, the bartender from Westchester County is another one.

    None of these people accomplish anything on their own. They are packaged, marketed products.
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    Buzz, calling Stacey “mediocre” is insulting our nation.

    Stacey Abrams is the new America–fat, broke, female and blackety, black. (Seems like she should have some tattoos.)

  153. @Art Deco
    IIRC, she has a child by her 1st marriage. Her current husband is her 2d husband.

    I wouldn't take her account of her upbringing at face value.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    IIRC, she has a child by her 1st marriage. Her current husband is her 2d husband.

    Art, you’re usually got your data lined up. But i sure hope you’re wrong about this one.

    When i read these “woke” bios, i feel much better if it’s “all cats, no kids”.

    When i read through a woke herstory and find she’s actually dropped a couple of kids, it’s depressing. All that destructive crap and we didn’t even get those cancerous genes scrubbed from the pool.

  154. @Reg Cæsar
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Isaias knocked down a lot of trees, taking out power lines. We’ve been on our generator for 37 hours now…
     
    Could be worse...

    "The Beirut explosion transposed over a map of Chicago if the bomb were to have gone off at Navy Pier"

    https://i.redd.it/feom1efhaaf51.jpg

    Replies: @guest007, @MBlanc46

    The bomb in equivalent to a 3 kiloton bomb (TNT). That is doing to do significant damage.

  155. @Veracitor
    @Anon

    McWhorter is an intellectual lightweight who guards the flanks of the Establishment to pay for his affirmative-action sinecure. That does make him a good guide to the Establishment propaganda line.

    Consider McWorter's poorly-written (vide infra) 2013 Time essay ludicrously defending Rachel Jeantel against (now irrefutable) charges of perjury and dimwittedness in the "Trayvon Martin" (George Zimmerman) case. That essay is worth revisiting to review elements other than McWhorter's awkward writing. Consider this gem:



    Few fully understand that the tension between young black men and the police (and by extension, security guards, traffic cops and just about any sort of watchman) is the main thing keeping America from getting past race. If ten years went by without a story like the Martin case we’d be in a very different country.

     

    Perhaps we would be, but a fresh hoax like the Martin case every few years (latterly George Floyd) has oh-so-conveniently prevented it. McWorter wasn't fazed by the source— persistent, aggressive black violence and crime— of the "tension" to which he referred. He was just pushing the Establishment line, already prescribed seven years ago, that America should remove all obstacles ("the police," "security guards, traffic cops and just about any sort of watchman") to violent black criminals so that America can "get past race."

    "BLM," anyone? How about "defund the police?" John McWorter presaged racial antinomianism like John the Baptist foretold the advent of Christianity.

    As for McWhorter's academic pretensions, six years ago Steve Sailer riffed on a review by Oliver Kamm in The Times of London of McWhorter’s book The Language Hoax which denounces the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis.


    I was privileged to comment then (my goodness, how time flies!) as follows:


    A pardonable egocentrism (to which I, as much as anyone, am prey) leads us to think about Whorfianism mostly in individual, even self-referenced terms. If “I” don’t have a special word for powdery snow, am “I” less able to think about snow in all its varied forms? Certainly I may build up noun phrases “powdery snow; sticky snow” and slang terms like “Sierra cement” (those of you who have skiied Mammoth will understand), but perhaps “I” don’t have the legendary nival insight of the Esquimaux? If deprived by the compilers of Newspeak of terms for sophisticated concepts like declining marginal returns to capital, am I not hampered in thinking of them, since I must spend so much mental effort in circumlocution?*

    Yet the true power of today’s Newspeak, the politically-correct vocabulary mandated by the AP Style Guide, the speech codes of the universities, et cetera, lies not so much in befogging individual thought as preventing communication among individuals who might, the language-manglers fear, aggregate into groups hostile to the powers that be.

    The public use of terms such as “illegal alien” must be suppressed, not because doing so prevents individual resentment of said aliens, but because those who might organize political opposition to illegal immigration will be stifled and stymied by their inability to communicate with potential recruits to their cause. If you aren’t allowed to name an evil in public, how can you organize any opposition to it?

    McWhorter is just doing his job as a shill for the elites.** That job is to demoralize and silence the elites’ opponents, and one way to do that (just as TV talking heads denounce all criticism of elites as “crackpot conspiracy theories”) is to confuse and devalue the intellectual tools by which elite propaganda may be understood and possibly counteracted.

    Whorfianism cannot fully explain individual thought, for if it did, no new thoughts would be possible. That is obviously untrue; we see that people invent new words to go with new thoughts and life proceeds apace. But Whorfianism does help explain the difficulty of sending new thoughts through society! When an necessary word is lacking, a thought cannot be simply and quickly communicated– it must be slowly and laboriously propagated along with new vocabulary which many people past adolescence are reluctant to learn.

    So applied Whorfianism is not contemptible. McWhorter himself is applying Whorfianism in a way. He belittles Whorfianism to guard the flanks of political correctness! If anyone complains that enforcement of politically-correct restrictions on vocabulary hampers democratic discourse, McWhorter is there to show that the complainers are crackpots: vocabulary has nothing to do with thought and therefore, he implies quite maliciously, with communication.

    It is rather a different point, but I was bemused by the awkward writing McWhorter displayed in his Time essay helpfully linked by Dave Pinsen above. McWhorter refused to call Jeantel’s lies “lies,” so instead he dug into his thesaurus for euphemisms such as “dissimulate” and “feign” to describe her lies, then demonstrated that he doesn’t really understand how to use those words, writing, for example, that Jeantel “feigned on whether calling someone a cracker was racially motivated.” “Feigned on…?” Bzzzzzt! McWorter’s essay is full of solecisms. For example, he often switches tense in a confusing manner. Considering the whole thing, I suspect McWhorter calls Jeantel’s command of English “perfect” only because his is not a hell of a lot better.

    *It is natural to think along these lines, since the jargon and the concepts in most fields of study are nearly merged, very probably because our biology constrains us to accomplish most advanced thought using our human facility for verbal logic.

    **That is the price of Affirmative Action. In return for bootlicking loyalty, American elites promote blacks like McWhorter in the place of smarter middle-class whites. It’s all very clever; some of those smart middle-class whites, if they got into HYP, might actually compete with children of the elites, so they must be kept out, and the best way to keep them out is to give their spots to McWhorter-types who will not so compete, but who will make grateful and therefore more useful house servants.

     

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Anon, @Jack D, @syonredux, @ben tillman

    You make some good points. McWhorter, by the way, is now aware of the Jeantel fraud and discusses it with Glenn Loury here:

    • Replies: @anon
    @ben tillman

    That was pretty tedious, even though I listened to it while eating lunch and trying to do other things. On the one hand, McWhorter was more honest than I expected on the topic of Jeantel's perjury (which is a crime in other circumstances) and Loury was more scholarly than I expected.

    On the other hand, these two are midwits. They may turn on the polysyllables from time to time, but they seem to have a lot of trouble with elementary reasoning of the A -> B -> C form. The fact that they are tenured faculty at universities of prestige must have a bit more to do with color of skin than content of vitae.

    I know, I know, they are really smart in whatever their speciality is. Well, maybe so, but frankly I've been around people like this in multiple institutions. It's the whole "I read the NY Times and the Washington post plus my local paper and listen to All Things Considered, so I'm very, very well informed!" academic hothouse groupthink mindset. Smug ignorance. Neither one of them mentioned the physical evidence of the powder burns on Martin's garment - something a well informed individual would know about. Neither one mentioned the fact that NBC was caught outright editing the 911 tape audio to make it appear that Zimmerman said something he did not say. Something a real truth seeker would know about and be outraged over.

    Then Loury is amazed that somehow no major media outlet explored these issues. Where has he been for the last 20, 30, 40, 50 years? How could he have missed the mass journalistic malpractice over Monica's dress - it made Drudge's reputation for a while. I cannot but wonder about deliberate, willful self-blinkering - Loury doesn't want to know about the media gaslighting, so he never looks. I

    It's frustrating. This is the best and the brightest of moderate liberalism. This is as good as it gets, maybe. About on a par with a high school English Lit teacher in terms of analytical thinking...and I'm thinking of specific teachers I know, too.

    tl;dr
    It's pretty cool to see older guys who have sort of an open mind, but they aren't as smart as I've been told. Not even close.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Art Deco

    , @Art Deco
    @ben tillman

    You make some good points. McWhorter, by the way, is now aware of the Jeantel fraud and discusses it with Glenn Loury here:

    Her testimony took up a lot of time, but it wasn't salient information. Taken at face-value, it just confirmed some bits you could infer from things TM did. The important information was (1) the recording of Zimmerman's conversation with the non-emergency dispatcher, (2) the autopsy report, (3) photographs taken of Zimmerman's head at the scene, (4) the testimony of the eyewitness to the fight standing 30 feet away, (5) the crime scene photograph which demonstrated where Zimmerman dropped his key chain, (6) maps of the complex, and (7) recordings of 911 calls people in the complex made when the fight got underway.

  156. @anonymous
    You come off as resentful towards her success because you have the same inferiority complex from a life of middling achievement. Rice University undergrad, UCLA MBA (OK but middling schools), small marketing firm after MBA. You never made it big as a writer or journalist. And you have been a blogger for almost the last 20 years. Nothing spectacular, nothing too depressing but you had great expectations for yourself so I'm sure the overall trajectory of your life is depressing.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Bardon Kaldian, @ben tillman

    You come off as resentful towards her success because you have the same inferiority complex from a life of middling achievement. Rice University undergrad, UCLA MBA (OK but middling schools) . . . .

    Rice is WAY above “middling”.

    • Agree: Muggles, PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @ben tillman


    Rice is WAY above “middling”.
     
    UCLA, too.
  157. anon[834] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dumbo
    @Anon55uu

    I had no idea about this "Unitarian" Universalist Church and after having briefly looked at it in Wikipedia, I am none the wiser. What exactly do they believe in? Do they perform mass? They don't even seem to believe in God or in Jesus. Maybe they now worship St. Floyd, or the Coronavirus?

    Replies: @anon, @Prosa123, @Uncle Jack

    As far as I can tell from listening to UU’s:

    Unitarianism and Universalism are 19th century spiritualist movements originating in New England often from former Quaker and Congregationalist churches. You can get something of a debate going between Quakers and UU’s over Walt Whitman – was he one, or the other, or a little of both?

    What exactly do they believe in?

    They tend to be part of the “spiritual but not religious” group of people.

    Do they perform mass?

    No.

    They don’t even seem to believe in God or in Jesus.

    Christians are expected to accept the Trinity. Thus they are Trinitarians.

    The UU’s are Unitarians. This should be clarifying.

    Universalism as far as I can tell is another “spiritual but not religious” grouping that insists all people are essentially good and will go to some kind of positive afterlife, because God (whatever that means) is Love so…no judging!

    Merging Unitarianism with Universalism results in a kind of church of niceness that shades into SJWism. My local UU has had a rainbow flag for years, and added BLM signs sometime since 2018.

  158. @Buzz Mohawk
    And who is selling Robin DiAngelo to the world, anyway?

    Behind every mediocrity who suddenly bursts upon us, there has to be some managing force. (No, I am not claiming to know who or what it is, or that it is even always the same.)

    Stacey Abrams is another good example of someone behind whom there has to be some kind of support and planning. Alexandria Ocasio-Whatever, the bartender from Westchester County is another one.

    None of these people accomplish anything on their own. They are packaged, marketed products.
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    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @guest007, @Anon, @Kronos, @ben tillman, @AnotherDad, @kaganovitch, @MBlanc46

    Behind every mediocrity who suddenly bursts upon us, there has to be some managing force. (No, I am not claiming to know who or what it is, or that it is even always the same.)

    Nonsense. Next you’re going to say that Barack Obama had a thin resume for the Presidency and he too was being managed….

  159. Anonymous[304] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian
    @anonymous

    Actually- this is a good post (because of its malice & stupidity). It should be dissected, just for fun...

    1. what is success? And does it matter, basically? Of course Van Gogh was not successful by any standards. But- he knew his worth. When you have this kind of power in your hands, you know you have divine gifts, and even if your life ends in tragedy, it wasn't a waste. Semmelweis,...

    2. what if you are moderately successful, but you know others are simply better? Or you are not getting recognition you think you deserve? Salieri-Mozart, Schopenhauer-Hegel, Wallace-Darwin, ...
    It depends in your world-view, destiny, morality,...

    3. what if you know you're gifted, but limited? For instance, many good authors were frustrated because they thought they should write epics or novels, and they wrote something they deemed marginal (Voltaire, ..). Or, instead of being Michelangelo, you turn out to be Cellini. It depends...

    4. and what when you achieve fame, but you know you're, essentially, 2nd rate, like Norman Mailer or Gore Vidal?

    Why just not enjoy the business of living? To sound like a 60s Zen hippie: don't do, just be.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon

    Yes, but Sailer was harsh, when he demeaned Robin DeAngelo career. How many phds will have the opportunity to be at least professors? The vast majority of people don’t even have a carreer.

  160. Anonymous[291] • Disclaimer says:
    @TheBoom
    I find attractive White men being willing to be with women who express hatred towards the White race to be depressing. I live in Eastern Asia and prefer Asian women but would never be with one who publicly expressed hatred of white people

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Women are muddleheads who don’t know what they’re saying.

    • Replies: @throtler
    @Anonymous

    Blah, blah, blah. Shut up, you ignoramus.

  161. I can’t wait for the sequel to this book:

    Jewish Fragility

    Oh wait, that surely won’t happen.

    Never mind, silly me.

  162. @Redneck farmer
    @Dr. X

    Our local business paper had an article which mentioned that 60% of the teachers at the regional university could make a maximum of $18,900 a year.

    Replies: @Dr. X

    I made $7800 per semester teaching four classes (the maximum for an adjunct, an 80% teaching load) at my last “academic” job in 2019.

  163. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Don't get too cocky about this. It's more likely that there's an increasing uptick in black guys hoovering up all the hot White chicks, so White guys and Woke Chicks of Color are kind of stuck with each other.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Don’t get too cocky about this.

    Quite.

    I merely hope that, in this individual case, the young man is regularly going full Raj and then some on the young lady.

  164. @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia
    @JohnnyWalker123

    JohnnyWalker123

    Spot on analysis.

    There is one key component of the current craziness that makes this time time different: businesses and the corporations -- and particularly advertising agencies -- are all in on the anti-white madness.

    If a Martian came down and watched the ads on commercial TV, he might conclude half of the intact families in the nation are black households with doting fathers and cute kids, all the Hispanics are bourgeoisie middle class and Euro in physiognomy, and all the Whites are an afterthought, except in My Pillow commercials. Minnesota in bygone days.

    Where is Don Draper when you need him?

    A signal that we've reached peak anti-whitness/pro-wokeness is when corporations decide they've had enough and/or tell the mob they've had enough. Trader Joe's recent push back was heartening, although it was customers who told Management not to go there. Same with The Wall St. Journal editorial page telling the snowflakes to pound sand.

    But I fear these are outliers, and convergence is here to stay. It does not bode well.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Chrisnonymous

    There is one key component of the current craziness that makes this time time different: businesses and the corporations — and particularly advertising agencies — are all in on the anti-white madness.

    Honestly, I think there’s a general ruling class. This class have their tentacles on the various levers of power – media, entertainment, academia, govt, big corps, intelligence agencies.

    For example, Al Gore is on the Board of Directors of Apple Computers. General Petraeus was a military general and then CIA Director. He’s now a Wall Street executive. There are various Goldman Sachs officials who have gone to work in govt over the years.

    There’s a huge revolving door that involves these various institutions.

    There are also various types of connections. For example, Hollywood entertainers (actors, musicians, models) often raise money and do events for politicians.

    Big corps will continue to support the craziness for as long as corporate profits remain strong. If profits start to plunge, that’s when investors will start to put pressure on execs. At that point, they might break. Until then, corporations won’t say anything negative about BLM and Anti-Fa.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    @JohnnyWalker123

    " . . . [T]here's a general ruling class. This class have their tentacles on the various levers of power – media, entertainment, academia, govt, big corps, intelligence agencies."

    Yep, pretty much true. I think there's a sort of mild unacknowledged consensus among people as disparate as corporate raider Carl Icahn, hard libertarians, socialist types, Ralph Nader, Pat Buchanan, plenty of others, too, that palsy-walsy, good ol' boy governance is the norm. (I'm trying to find a better term.) That sort of revolving-door careerism isn't everybody's cuppa; you're expected to keep convictions in check. But, for the right personality, playing ball to get into and stay in the "general ruling class" can offer income, reputation and respectability, etc.

  165. @Ganderson
    @Mr. Anon

    She and her husband lived in Springfield, which , as Steve says, is rather vibrant. Westfield is one of the more normal towns in Western Mass, blue collar-ish, not vibrant, not currently being overrun by lesbians. (the Rosie O’Donnell variety, not the Pornhub variety.)

    Replies: @Prosa123

    Most of the communities in Western Massachusetts are decent enough. Springfield has the usual array of urban troubles (though it’s better than Hartford just down the road), Holyoke is run down in parts, but that’s about it.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Prosa123

    Yup

    , @MEH 0910
    @Prosa123

    https://twitter.com/masslivenews/status/1292241895326920704

    https://twitter.com/MDCollegian/status/1292177125412347904

  166. @Paleo Liberal
    I can prove white privilege exists.

    Name the people who get the most money hectoring whites about white privilege:

    Ms. DiAngelo is one.
    Tim Weiss is another.

    They are the ones whites actually pay attention to.

    To quote a brilliant black intellectual, Adolph Reed, Jr., TNC is treated by whites like the maid’s son who actually went to college. One can imagine the Cap’m in Tom Wolfe’s “Man in Full” gushing over him if her were the maid’s son.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Art Deco, @SC Rebel

    Tim “just ignore that I live in a $750k house in a predominantly white neighborhood, because I truly understand the plight of the black race” Wise

    What a guy he is!

  167. @Anon
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Managed product = Jordan Petersen, Eric Weinstein


    Jordan Peterson’s target market = wimpy but semi high IQ atheist white men that need to tidy up their rooms.

    Eric Weinstein’s target market = semi high IQ jewish atheists with a chip on the shoulder (looks and manners not on their side).

    Milo Yia-whatchamacallit’s target market = wimpy atheist whites with a yearning for letting the rage out.

    Maybe Sailer could do background research on those guys too.

    Nobody that picks a celebrity guru to explain life’s intricacies is high IQ. Or sensible.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Things go deeper. American culture has a historical current of quick-fix solutions, self-help industry, optimism (reinventing oneself- what a nonsense, it is impossible), sky is the limit, weird cults (Christian science, Scientology,…) no other white country has ever come up with.

    Deep, Puritan America with its Calvinist guilt, has created much; shallow, “Emerson-for-materialist-idiots” not so.

    As far as I know, real Europe, from Paris to Petrograd, has nothing similar. Britain is a more complex case, but despite the similarities, English are more realistic & not so shallow (they export in the US their flamboyant refuse & sometimes good scientists). In England, you could have Rotherham & Telford, but not something like mass hysteria of various witch hunts. Though-England is becoming a bastion of unfree speech & the US is, now, much freer.

    Or, British public intellectuals are cowards; American public intellectuals are not even intellectuals. And, Americans are more easily bought, financially corrupted.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Bardon Kaldian


    , sky is the limit, weird cults (Christian science, Scientology,…) no other white country has ever come up with.
     
    Dunno.....

    Raëlism,[a] also known as Raëlianism, is a UFO religion that was founded in 1970s France by Claude Vorilhon, now known as Raël.[b] Scholars of religion classify Raëlism as a new religious movement. The group is formalised as the International Raëlian Movement (IRM) or Raëlian Church, a hierarchical organisation under Raël's leadership.
     

    Raëlism teaches that an extraterrestrial species known as the Elohim created humanity using their advanced technology. An atheistic religion, it believes that the Elohim have historically been mistaken for gods. It holds that throughout history the Elohim have created forty Elohim/human hybrids who have served as prophets preparing humanity for news about their ultimate origins. Among those listed as prophets are The Buddha, Jesus of Nazareth, and Muhammad, with Raël himself being the fortieth and final prophet. Raëlists believe that since the Hiroshima bomb of 1945, humanity has entered an Age of Apocalypse in which it is threatening itself with nuclear annihilation. It argues that humanity must find a way of harnessing new scientific and technological development for peaceful ends, and that once this has been achieved the Elohim shall return to Earth to share their technology with humanity and usher in a utopia. To this end, the Raëlians have been committed to building an embassy for the Elohim, incorporating a landing pad for the latter's spaceship. Raëlians promote a liberal ethical system with a strong emphasis on sexual experimentation, engage in daily meditation, and hope for physical immortality through human cloning.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism

    The Skoptsy (Russian: скопцы; singular скопец "castrate"; also transliterated as Skoptzy, Skoptzi, Skoptsi, Skopzi, Scoptsy, etc.) were a sect, within the larger Spiritual Christianity movement in the Russian Empire, best known for practicing castration of men and the mastectomy of women in accordance with their teachings against sexual lust.[1] The term is a descriptive one used by the official Russian Orthodox Church.
     

    The movement emerged in the late 18th century. It reached the peak of its popularity in the early 20th century, with as many as 100,000 members, in spite of persecution by the imperial government. Despite severe repression under the Soviet Union, small groups persevered into the 21st century.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skoptsy

    Frankism was a Sabbatean Jewish religious movement of the 18th and 19th centuries,[1] centered on the leadership of the Jewish Messiah claimant Jacob Frank, who lived from 1726 to 1791. Frank rejected religious norms, and said his followers were obligated to transgress as many moral boundaries as possible. At its height it claimed perhaps 50,000 followers, primarily Jews living in Poland and other parts of Eastern Europe.[1][2][3]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankism

    The Thule Society (/ˈtuːlə/; German: Thule-Gesellschaft), originally the Studiengruppe für germanisches Altertum ("Study Group for Germanic Antiquity"), was a German occultist and Völkisch group founded in Munich right after World War I, named after a mythical northern country in Greek legend. The society is notable chiefly as the organization that sponsored the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (DAP; German Workers' Party), which was later reorganized by Adolf Hitler into the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP or Nazi Party). According to Hitler biographer Ian Kershaw, the organization's "membership list ... reads like a Who's Who of early Nazi sympathizers and leading figures in Munich", including Rudolf Hess, Alfred Rosenberg, Hans Frank, Julius Lehmann, Gottfried Feder, Dietrich Eckart, and Karl Harrer.[2]

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_Society

    The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (Latin: Ordo Hermeticus Aurorae Aureae; or, more commonly, the Golden Dawn (Aurora Aurea)) was a secret society devoted to the study and practice of the occult, metaphysics, and paranormal activities during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Known as a magical order, the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was active in Great Britain and focused its practices on theurgy and spiritual development. Many present-day concepts of ritual and magic that are at the centre of contemporary traditions, such as Wicca[1][2] and Thelema, were inspired by the Golden Dawn, which became one of the largest single influences on 20th-century Western occultism.[3][4]

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn

    Lysenkoism (Russian: Лысе́нковщина, tr. Lysenkovshchina) was a political campaign led by Trofim Lysenko against genetics and science-based agriculture in the mid-20th century, rejecting natural selection in favour of Lamarckism and exaggerated claims for the benefits of vernalization and grafting. Lysenko served as the director of the Soviet Union's Lenin All-Union Academy of Agricultural Sciences.

    The government of the USSR supported the campaign, and Joseph Stalin personally edited a speech by Lysenko in a way that reflected his support for what would come to be known as Lysenkoism, despite his skepticism toward Lysenko's assertion that all science is class-oriented in nature.[1] More than 3,000 mainstream biologists were dismissed or imprisoned, and numerous scientists were executed in the campaign to suppress scientific opponents. The president of the Agriculture Academy, Nikolai Vavilov, who had encouraged Lysenko, was sent to prison and died there, while Soviet genetics research was effectively destroyed. Research and teaching in the fields of neurophysiology, cell biology, and many other biological disciplines were harmed or banned.

    Other countries of the Eastern Bloc including Poland, Czechoslovakia, and the German Democratic Republic accepted Lysenkoism as the official "new biology", to varying degrees, as did the People's Republic of China for some years.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

    National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsiɪzəm, ˈnæt-/),[1] is the ideology and practices associated with the Nazi Party—officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP)—in Nazi Germany, and of other far-right groups with similar ideas and aims. Nazism is a form of fascism,[2][3][4][5] with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and the use of eugenics into its creed. Its extreme nationalism originated in Pan-Germanism and the ethno-nationalist Völkisch movement which had been a prominent aspect of German nationalism since the late 19th century, and it was strongly influenced by the Freikorps paramilitary groups that emerged after Germany's defeat in World War I, from which came the party's underlying "cult of violence".[6] Nazism subscribed to pseudo-scientific theories of racial hierarchy[7] and Social Darwinism, identifying the Germans as a part of what the Nazis regarded as an Aryan or Nordic master race.[8] It aimed to overcome social divisions and create a German homogeneous society based on racial purity which represented a people's community (Volksgemeinschaft). The Nazis aimed to unite all Germans living in historically German territory, as well as gain additional lands for German expansion under the doctrine of Lebensraum and exclude those who they deemed either community aliens or "inferior" races.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

    The Bolsheviks (from Russian: bolshinstvo, 'majority'),[a] also known in English as the Bolshevists,[2][b] were a radical, far-left, and revolutionary Marxist faction founded by Vladimir Lenin and Alexander Bogdanov that split from the Menshevik faction[c] of the Marxist Russian Social Democratic Labour Party (RSDLP), a revolutionary socialist political party formed in 1898, at its Second Party Congress in 1903.[4]

    After forming their own party in 1912, the Bolsheviks took power in Russia in November 1917, overthrowing the Provisional Government of Alexander Kerensky, and became the only ruling party in the subsequent Soviet Russia and its successor state, the Soviet Union. They considered themselves the leaders of the revolutionary working class of Russia. Their beliefs and practices were often referred to as Bolshevism.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsheviks
  168. @PaceLaw
    “and then in 2004 in her late 40s got married to a man, the ex-husband of one of her old birthing coach business clients.”

    Geesh, am I the only square here or does this sound particularly wretched? So she “coached” a lady in the intricacies of childbirth and then stole her husband? If so, she is clearly not a nice or ethical person. I am sure more juicy bits will continue to come out about her as her status increases.

    Replies: @Prosa123

    “So she “coached” a lady in the intricacies of childbirth”

    She blew a whistle at her and made her run laps?

  169. @The Last Real Calvinist
    Steve, I think the lockdown's enspice-ificating your prose style. You haven't put out this kind of high-end snark in a while. I especially enjoyed 'Westfield State, which is somewhere or other'.

    BTW, I work in higher ed, actively keep up with higher ed in the USA, have just gone through two years of doing college admissions stuff for Daughter C -- and I'd never come across the name 'Westfield State'. I wish its students and alumni well. I know what it's like to be graduated from an institution whose name sounds like a google maps glitch.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna, @Ganderson

    Westfield State is known for teacher training and cop training. The MA state schools are the poor cousins around here- what with the high end universities like Harvard and the other ivies, the high end D III schools like Amherst and Williams. , and, of course UMASS. If you want to be a teacher, why pay premium freight- Go to Westfield, or Worcester State, or Salem State.

  170. @Dumbo
    @Anon55uu

    I had no idea about this "Unitarian" Universalist Church and after having briefly looked at it in Wikipedia, I am none the wiser. What exactly do they believe in? Do they perform mass? They don't even seem to believe in God or in Jesus. Maybe they now worship St. Floyd, or the Coronavirus?

    Replies: @anon, @Prosa123, @Uncle Jack

    I’ve heard that UU members vary greatly in what they believe or don’t believe, with the doctrine trying to accommodate all views. In past years it was a reasonably popular choice among people who had too little faith to belong to other denominations but weren’t outright atheists and still wanted to attend some sort of religious worship,something like the Ethical Culture movement found in New York and a few other cities. Most likely that doesn’t happen much anymore, and it’s more like a social club than an actual church. I’ve even heard stories about their activities functioning as meeting places for affluent, somewhat older single people.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Prosa123

    Kind of like Freemasonry, then. Minus the cabalistic rituals.

  171. @Prosa123
    @Ganderson

    Most of the communities in Western Massachusetts are decent enough. Springfield has the usual array of urban troubles (though it's better than Hartford just down the road), Holyoke is run down in parts, but that's about it.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @MEH 0910

    Yup

  172. @Bardon Kaldian
    Anyway, Steve is commenting on some worthless bitch & not the other way around.

    In virtually all areas, as I've said, to become someone, you have to have talents in that area (in others, you may be fool or mediocre). You must be a real deal, whether this is exact sciences, arts, literature, entertainment, business, politics,....
    To achieve prominence you have to have specific gifts that go way beyond self-promotion & nonsense talking.

    Juan Maldacena, Terrence Malick, even George Clooney, Cormac McCarthy, Michael Phelps, Charles Murray, Bill Gates, Henry Kissinger, Robert Langlands, Itzhak Perlman, Hans Kung,Joseph Stiglitz, Ronaldo, ....

    But only in the area of "punditry" & media pollution you can meet prominent people who are idiots, completely bonkers re their own areas of "expertise" or unbelievably stupid.

    This is the only field where absolute fakers without any specific gift can be prominent, famous, influential...

    Replies: @Anonymousse

    In virtually all areas, as I’ve said, to become someone, you have to have talents in that area (in others, you may be fool or mediocre). You must be a real deal, whether this is exact sciences, arts, literature, entertainment, business, politics,….

    Either you haven’t been in business or our definition of “talent” differs significantly.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Anonymousse

    To achieve something significant in virtually all areas means you have to have a talent. I am not talking about heirs, corrupt bootlickers or family connected dumbos.

    I am talking about self-made businessmen, and to achieve something in that field, you got to be gifted for that specific area. You may have talent, but you are simply unlucky, so nothing comes out; destiny may interfere & you lose.

    But achievers are always gifted; bootlickers or whores or corrupt sleazers never achieve prominence of that kind. Bill Clinton, in politics, is a truly talented man for that area. Never mind his morality & sleaze. He has gifts. The same goes for prominence in business.

  173. @Jack D
    @Veracitor

    I have to say that what you wrote has held up very well . Often stuff written in the past ages like milk because the times move on (who 7 years ago would have expected Trump to be the POTUS?) but what you said back then applies with equal relevance today.

    Ten years are NEVER going to pass without another "Martin" type case because blacks are never going to cease their criminality. The only way we could go 10 years without such an incident is if blacks were given complete license to rampage at will and I don't think that is going to happen, except for a very brief period - the backlash would be so strong that it would sweep aside those who supported it and the pendulum would swing back in the other direction. Years ago Dinkins tried something like this in NYC (not exactly a bastion of right wing reaction) and his first term as mayor was also his last. The good news about BLM is that the more "successful" their "abolish the police" initiatives are now, the greater the backlash is going to be in the future.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Whiskey

    No. Blm are the new police. Xavier Becerra is charging Jackie Laceys hubby for having a gun in his own home. He will spend years in prison.

    When Biden the either of those two clapped out whores Harris or Rice take over all blacks will have the right to do whatever to Whitey and any resistance will be the only capital crime.

    The cops were already replaced. The new ones are anti fa, blm and the NFAC army.

    You just didn’t notice.

    The dream of Nike …. Every White male in a slave labor camp making air jordans, every White woman a Kardashian is almost here.

  174. @JohnnyWalker123
    @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia


    There is one key component of the current craziness that makes this time time different: businesses and the corporations — and particularly advertising agencies — are all in on the anti-white madness.

     

    Honestly, I think there's a general ruling class. This class have their tentacles on the various levers of power - media, entertainment, academia, govt, big corps, intelligence agencies.

    For example, Al Gore is on the Board of Directors of Apple Computers. General Petraeus was a military general and then CIA Director. He's now a Wall Street executive. There are various Goldman Sachs officials who have gone to work in govt over the years.

    There's a huge revolving door that involves these various institutions.

    There are also various types of connections. For example, Hollywood entertainers (actors, musicians, models) often raise money and do events for politicians.

    Big corps will continue to support the craziness for as long as corporate profits remain strong. If profits start to plunge, that's when investors will start to put pressure on execs. At that point, they might break. Until then, corporations won't say anything negative about BLM and Anti-Fa.

    Replies: @JackOH

    ” . . . [T]here’s a general ruling class. This class have their tentacles on the various levers of power – media, entertainment, academia, govt, big corps, intelligence agencies.”

    Yep, pretty much true. I think there’s a sort of mild unacknowledged consensus among people as disparate as corporate raider Carl Icahn, hard libertarians, socialist types, Ralph Nader, Pat Buchanan, plenty of others, too, that palsy-walsy, good ol’ boy governance is the norm. (I’m trying to find a better term.) That sort of revolving-door careerism isn’t everybody’s cuppa; you’re expected to keep convictions in check. But, for the right personality, playing ball to get into and stay in the “general ruling class” can offer income, reputation and respectability, etc.

  175. @International Jew

    the prole depths of the most lowbrow academia
     
    LOL.

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country, @JimDandy, @Anonymous

    We need to quit using the term “prole“. It plays into a bad worldview.

  176. @DCThrowback
    @JohnnyWalker123

    JohnnyWalker123, you're one of my favorite commenters here. Next time you're in DC, let's grab a beer. Bravo.

    Now, riddle me this: One COULD argue that COVID Theater, Russian Collusion, Impeachment, BLM/Antifa are all being *sponsored* by the same people whom you define as the Ruling Class. At the very least, there is tremendous overlap. And they have the megaphone parroting the lies behind them, over and over.

    These elites are so upset (TDS) that the rubes used the one outlet they had left (election of DJT) to voice disapproval over their rule, that the Empire Struck Back, so to speak. Take that rubes!!!

    So while you'd THINK they'd be hard pressed to keep the pot from boiling over, they are actually turning the heat up on the stove. Is it all Trump/Rube hatred? Is it because a number of these folks are categorized, glibly, as "dual loyalists", i.e, they have a place to go if the shit gets too hot?

    Are we being extorted to vote for their sham candidate in NOV with the implicit promise "this" (/waves hand in big circle) will abate if you once again acknowledge who rules over you?

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    JohnnyWalker123, you’re one of my favorite commenters here. Next time you’re in DC, let’s grab a beer. Bravo.

    LOL. Thanks. I’ll have a Heineken.

    are all being *sponsored* by the same people whom you define as the Ruling Class

    They are basically the same people. There’s a revolving door that involves Big Corps, Wall Street, DC, and various govt agencies (including and military&intelligence).

    For example, Al Gore is on the Board of Apple. Hillary Clinton’s son-in-law is a Wall Street exec. Former general&CIA director Petraeus is now working in private equity. Goldman Sachs has lots of alumni who’ve worked in the most elite echelons of govt.

    Then there are all the power couples. Let’s say you have one spouse working in elite media and another spouse working as a DC lobbyist.

    Then there’s the fundraising. Let’s say you have a Hollywood celebrity who won’t run for office. Even he can do campaign events for politicians and fund raise. For example, look at Ben Affleck.

    It’s a unified ruling class who extend their tentacles in various places.

    Then there’s the blackmail. There are various guys like Epstein who throw “parties” at their various residences, inviting lots of powerful, rich, and famous people. This provides a way to blackmail various elite individuals into supporting a particular agenda.

    Is it because a number of these folks are categorized, glibly, as “dual loyalists”, i.e, they have a place to go if the shit gets too hot?

    That’s part of it. If the situation ever gets too “hot,” many of them will flee to Israel. Israel was created as a place for Jews to go when they alienated any host population to an extreme extent.

    By the way, “dual loyalist” might be overstating it. “Dual” implies loyalty to both countries. I don’t see much indication that they feel ANY loyalty to the U.S. I wonder if they’ve ever felt ANY loyalty to the U.S.

    Are we being extorted to vote for their sham candidate in NOV with the implicit promise “this” (/waves hand in big circle) will abate if you once again acknowledge who rules over you?

    Yes, this is a very good point. If Biden picks Kamala Harris or Stacy Abrams, there’s an implicit promise that the new administration will be able to calm the Black masses.

    It’s unstated, but heavily implied.

    That’s the real reason why Biden wants to pick a Black.

  177. @black sea
    At the "prole depths of lowbrow academia," most people are working in a no-benefits, no-career-track gig economy that bears a much greater resemblance to being a line cook at Applebee's than anything one might associate with the life of the mind.

    As middle age dampened the fires of her wanderlust (carnal and nomadic) she landed a tolerable hubby and found a side-hustle that works for her, which says something for her resourcefulness. It's probably not too taxing -- apart from the travel and the book signings -- but the speaking fees are generous and the royalty checks keep rolling in as legions of her fellow cubicle drones are bullied into buying her books, in order to satisfy the Stasi in HR.

    The American Dream -- circa 2020.

    Replies: @Dr. X, @Coemgen, @Muggles

    >>legions of her fellow cubicle drones are bullied into buying her books, in order to satisfy the Stasi in HR.<<

    Nicely put.

    • Thanks: black sea
  178. @Buzz Mohawk
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I see that, and I don't know what happened. What was the gist of the comment?

    I wrote and then deleted a stupid reply to your reply, something about kiwi birds, New Zealanders and shoe polish, but I deleted that. That does not explain what happened, though, because it was a reply to what you wrote.

    What were you replying to? Thank you, BTW, for your thoughtful comment. I definitely understand your points.

    Summing it up: Anti-White-ism is a very big problem. Nobody is taking it seriously except those of us who might be accused by the masses of being whatever they want to call us. Personally, I think we have crossed a Rubicon, and I feel sorry for younger White people. In fact, I feel sorry for all others too, because they will be caught up in what will happen after I am dead. The White people of the world, including those kiwis in New Zealand, BTW, are a sleeping giant, and when they wake up, all Hell will break loose. I just hope that after that, when they settle the score, they never again forget.

    https://3a09223b3cd53870eeaa-7f75e5eb51943043279413a54aaa858a.ssl.cf3.rackcdn.com//f8ade6ce187a658e82901eac909bd629999452338-1358257309-50f55c9d-360x251.jpg

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    I see that, and I don’t know what happened. What was the gist of the comment?

    I remember you said something about Kiwis. You also said that Steve Sailer had been addressing these issues for years.

    I wrote and then deleted a stupid reply to your reply, something about kiwi birds, New Zealanders and shoe polish, but I deleted that. That does not explain what happened, though, because it was a reply to what you wrote.

    So I replied to you replying to me.

    I think that when we post our comments, somehow they’re sometimes visible before the timer expires.

    That’d explain why you saw my first post (which I later edited/deleted). Then you responded, which I saw and replied to with an edited version of the original comment. Then your response was deleted because the timer hadn’t expired. So I’m basically responding to a comment deleted before the timer expired.

    LOL. Sort of interesting.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Aha. Thanks for figuring that out. Funny how it works. It makes me think of things getting memory holed. LOL

    I really do have an OCD problem, so I sometimes edit excessively or just delete and re-write too many times. Maybe I've caused this thing to happen other times as well.

    It would be nice if the software didn't make one's comments visible to other people until the editing time has expired.

    I'll try to cut and paste the relevant parts of this into Ron's Bugs & Suggestions thread. It might help.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

  179. @Bardon Kaldian
    @anonymous

    Actually- this is a good post (because of its malice & stupidity). It should be dissected, just for fun...

    1. what is success? And does it matter, basically? Of course Van Gogh was not successful by any standards. But- he knew his worth. When you have this kind of power in your hands, you know you have divine gifts, and even if your life ends in tragedy, it wasn't a waste. Semmelweis,...

    2. what if you are moderately successful, but you know others are simply better? Or you are not getting recognition you think you deserve? Salieri-Mozart, Schopenhauer-Hegel, Wallace-Darwin, ...
    It depends in your world-view, destiny, morality,...

    3. what if you know you're gifted, but limited? For instance, many good authors were frustrated because they thought they should write epics or novels, and they wrote something they deemed marginal (Voltaire, ..). Or, instead of being Michelangelo, you turn out to be Cellini. It depends...

    4. and what when you achieve fame, but you know you're, essentially, 2nd rate, like Norman Mailer or Gore Vidal?

    Why just not enjoy the business of living? To sound like a 60s Zen hippie: don't do, just be.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon

    Sailer got a dose of his own medicine from anonymous’ post. Did the medicine consist of malice and stupidity? I thought it was just snark.

  180. @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia
    @JohnnyWalker123

    JohnnyWalker123

    Spot on analysis.

    There is one key component of the current craziness that makes this time time different: businesses and the corporations -- and particularly advertising agencies -- are all in on the anti-white madness.

    If a Martian came down and watched the ads on commercial TV, he might conclude half of the intact families in the nation are black households with doting fathers and cute kids, all the Hispanics are bourgeoisie middle class and Euro in physiognomy, and all the Whites are an afterthought, except in My Pillow commercials. Minnesota in bygone days.

    Where is Don Draper when you need him?

    A signal that we've reached peak anti-whitness/pro-wokeness is when corporations decide they've had enough and/or tell the mob they've had enough. Trader Joe's recent push back was heartening, although it was customers who told Management not to go there. Same with The Wall St. Journal editorial page telling the snowflakes to pound sand.

    But I fear these are outliers, and convergence is here to stay. It does not bode well.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Chrisnonymous

    Trader Joe’s used to be owned by a German, maybe still is, and Red Bull is owned by an Austrian. Maybe Goya Foods was started by one of those Nazis who fled to South America?

    Anyway…

    Your pro-police meal: Red Bull and Cup Noodle.

    (Cup Noodle was popularized in Japan after it was photographed being eaten by the Japanese Riot Police, which used to have right-wing overtones.)

    If you need to add veggies, anything from Goya or a Mexican salad bowl (we love Mexicans!).

  181. @JohnnyWalker123
    Incentives matter.

    Let's say that the ruling class embraces the religion of "Kiwi-ism." This religion involves worship of kiwis, which are morally superior to all the other types of fruits.

    Let's say the ruling class decides to give lucrative careers to people who can speak articulately about their love of kiwis. Pro-kiwi individuals see their careers advance rapidly in the media, academia, government, and the corporate world. Embracing kiwis seems to be a path to prosperity. Meanwhile, pro-Mango individuals often get harassed and demeaned, sometimes even fired.

    Let's say pro-kiwi activists often get carried away, often attacking Mango farmers and setting fire to their fields. Sometimes pro-kiwi social media sites ban accounts that defend mangos too aggressively.

    In this type of society, which fruit do you think will sell better? The kiwi or the mango?

    Which fruit will artists paint? Which fruit will poets write about? Which fruit will people dress up as for Halloween? Which fruit will get subsidized by our govt?

    In the West, the ruling class has access to tremendous wealth and powerful, well-functioning institutions. If you embrace their ideologies, they can enrich you significantly. If you reject their propaganda, they can ruin you financially and socially.

    In today's West, attacking Whites is a path to respectability. If you're trying to climb the career ladder or launch a media/literary/entertainment career, attacking Whites will give you a leg up on the competition.
    Sometimes you can create a lucrative full-time job in which your sole task is to write about the flaws of White people. Nice work if you can get it.

    Defending Whites, on the other hand, is a path to poverty. Nobody will hire you for anything. People will keep their distance from you. You'll be a pariah.

    Being anti-White is a competitive advantage in today's America. That's why anti-Whiteism is the strongest in careers, educational institutions, and regions which are known for being highly competitive to begin with.

    Sure, the majority of Whites don't like this.

    However, today's Whites inhabit a highly atomized social milieu, in which extreme individualism precludes any type of large-scale group action. So it's tough to fight the ruling class...... As for "voting out the bums," that doesn't work either. Not when both parties are controlled opposition, with sham elections giving people the choice of Coke V.S. Pepsi. So that won't work.

    When you get down to it, there's not much that Whites can do. Other than grumble on Twitter, Facebook, and the Breitbart comment section.

    Anti-Whiteism is actually in a more fragile position than Communism was during the Soviet era. At least Communism was popular with the working-class masses for a while. Anti-Whiteism has never had much of a constituency, other than Blacks and Jews. White Conservatives&Moderates hate it. White Liberals may tolerate it, but they're not that excited.

    I suppose that's why our rulers are so obsessed with importing huge numbers of foreign immigrants and teaching them that Whites disrespected their ancestors. Our rulers figure that if they can change the demographics of Western countries and encourage the new diverse "Americans" to dislike Whites, then Anti-Whiteism will stand on more solid ground.

    The current social order will continue until one of the following happens.

    1. There's a massive economic or military catastrophe, leading to the collapse of the ruling class. If this happens, then anti-Whiteism will collapse as quickly as Communism did after the Soviet Union fell apart. When the population doesn't really believe in the state's ideology, then it fades once the rulers are gone.

    2. Whites get squeezed hard enough and get really angry, but have nowhere to run and nothing left to lose. So they begin to organically coalesce together. At that point, they could begin to fight back and retake their country. If you want to understand what this might look like, study the Reconstruction era in the post-Civil War South.

    I could think of plausible scenarios in which both happen.

    The continuity of Anti-Whiteism is contingent on the continuation of the current economic&social order. If a major shock causes the current order to collapse, then everything could change very quickly. At that point, life could get very interesting for all of us.

    Right now, the system is being shocked by the COVID recession, massive deficit spending, BLM/Anti-Fa turmoil, and political bickering. Will the system continue to withstand these shocks? Is there anything more massive on the horizon?

    Stay tuned.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @tyrone, @DCThrowback, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @Kratoklastes

    Embracing kiwis seems to be a path to prosperity.

    I tire of being embraced all the time by people who are convinced of this.

    New Zealand is smart, atheist and prosperous (and calm, and good at Rugby) because of its people – but our talent isn’t transferred on contact.

    Also: Jack Turner hit upon re-naming the Chinese Gooseberry to ‘Kiwifruit’ in 1959 – but a lot of people of my generation dislike the name because it was entirely artificial and made up to take advantage of stupid retarded Americans (well before “Freedom fries“, Yanks weren’t buying Chinese Gooseberries because of US Cold War Sinophobic propaganda).

    As late as the late 70s, the original name was still common use in Taranaki. I still refuse to use the neologism, and it pleases me that the largest exporter of Chinese Gooseberries is… China.

    Mango 4 Life, yo. (Especially Bowen and the newfangled R2E2)

  182. @captflee
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Wow, Buzz...

    37 hours! Hell, I'm maybe a half hour's drive from landfall, and we were back up within a dozen hours. You have my sympathy, and best wishes for rapid restoration.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Thanks.

    53 Hours and counting…

    The Generac is purring like a kitten, fueled by the house’s natural gas line. I’m checking her every 24. The oil is still full up and looks clean on the dipstick. If we get to 100 hours, I’ll change that and the filter, per the manual, and check the spark plug. Normally I do those things once a year when it’s just been on standby the whole time.

    The longest run it has done previously was for three days after some other tropical storm. The news is things may take longer this time. Nobody is happy with the power companies right now. They talked big talk after Hurricane Sandy; in the years since, they’ve claimed to have crews out trimming trees around their wires to reduce exactly this sort of thing.

    This was not a big storm, but somehow it found all those trees they said they were cutting, and it knocked them all down on their lines. Repairs are moving at a snail’s pace.

    And here in Connecticut we pay some of the highest rates in America for our electricity.

  183. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Anon

    Things go deeper. American culture has a historical current of quick-fix solutions, self-help industry, optimism (reinventing oneself- what a nonsense, it is impossible), sky is the limit, weird cults (Christian science, Scientology,...) no other white country has ever come up with.

    Deep, Puritan America with its Calvinist guilt, has created much; shallow, "Emerson-for-materialist-idiots" not so.

    As far as I know, real Europe, from Paris to Petrograd, has nothing similar. Britain is a more complex case, but despite the similarities, English are more realistic & not so shallow (they export in the US their flamboyant refuse & sometimes good scientists). In England, you could have Rotherham & Telford, but not something like mass hysteria of various witch hunts. Though-England is becoming a bastion of unfree speech & the US is, now, much freer.

    Or, British public intellectuals are cowards; American public intellectuals are not even intellectuals. And, Americans are more easily bought, financially corrupted.

    Replies: @syonredux

    , sky is the limit, weird cults (Christian science, Scientology,…) no other white country has ever come up with.

    Dunno…..

    Raëlism,[a] also known as Raëlianism, is a UFO religion that was founded in 1970s France by Claude Vorilhon, now known as Raël.[b] Scholars of religion classify Raëlism as a new religious movement. The group is formalised as the International Raëlian Movement (IRM) or Raëlian Church, a hierarchical organisation under Raël’s leadership.

    Raëlism teaches that an extraterrestrial species known as the Elohim created humanity using their advanced technology. An atheistic religion, it believes that the Elohim have historically been mistaken for gods. It holds that throughout history the Elohim have created forty Elohim/human hybrids who have served as prophets preparing humanity for news about their ultimate origins. Among those listed as prophets are The Buddha, Jesus of Nazareth, and Muhammad, with Raël himself being the fortieth and final prophet. Raëlists believe that since the Hiroshima bomb of 1945, humanity has entered an Age of Apocalypse in which it is threatening itself with nuclear annihilation. It argues that humanity must find a way of harnessing new scientific and technological development for peaceful ends, and that once this has been achieved the Elohim shall return to Earth to share their technology with humanity and usher in a utopia. To this end, the Raëlians have been committed to building an embassy for the Elohim, incorporating a landing pad for the latter’s spaceship. Raëlians promote a liberal ethical system with a strong emphasis on sexual experimentation, engage in daily meditation, and hope for physical immortality through human cloning.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlism

    The Skoptsy (Russian: скопцы; singular скопец “castrate”; also transliterated as Skoptzy, Skoptzi, Skoptsi, Skopzi, Scoptsy, etc.) were a sect, within the larger Spiritual Christianity movement in the Russian Empire, best known for practicing castration of men and the mastectomy of women in accordance with their teachings against sexual lust.[1] The term is a descriptive one used by the official Russian Orthodox Church.

    The movement emerged in the late 18th century. It reached the peak of its popularity in the early 20th century, with as many as 100,000 members, in spite of persecution by the imperial government. Despite severe repression under the Soviet Union, small groups persevered into the 21st century.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skoptsy

    Frankism was a Sabbatean Jewish religious movement of the 18th and 19th centuries,[1] centered on the leadership of the Jewish Messiah claimant Jacob Frank, who lived from 1726 to 1791. Frank rejected religious norms, and said his followers were obligated to transgress as many moral boundaries as possible. At its height it claimed perhaps 50,000 followers, primarily Jews living in Poland and other parts of Eastern Europe.[1][2][3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankism

    The Thule Society (/ˈtuːlə/; German: Thule-Gesellschaft), originally the Studiengruppe für germanisches Altertum (“Study Group for Germanic Antiquity”), was a German occultist and Völkisch group founded in Munich right after World War I, named after a mythical northern country in Greek legend. The society is notable chiefly as the organization that sponsored the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (DAP; German Workers’ Party), which was later reorganized by Adolf Hitler into the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (NSDAP or Nazi Party). According to Hitler biographer Ian Kershaw, the organization’s “membership list … reads like a Who’s Who of early Nazi sympathizers and leading figures in Munich”, including Rudolf Hess, Alfred Rosenberg, Hans Frank, Julius Lehmann, Gottfried Feder, Dietrich Eckart, and Karl Harrer.[2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_Society

    The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn (Latin: Ordo Hermeticus Aurorae Aureae; or, more commonly, the Golden Dawn (Aurora Aurea)) was a secret society devoted to the study and practice of the occult, metaphysics, and paranormal activities during the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Known as a magical order, the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was active in Great Britain and focused its practices on theurgy and spiritual development. Many present-day concepts of ritual and magic that are at the centre of contemporary traditions, such as Wicca[1][2] and Thelema, were inspired by the Golden Dawn, which became one of the largest single influences on 20th-century Western occultism.[3][4]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn

    Lysenkoism (Russian: Лысе́нковщина, tr. Lysenkovshchina) was a political campaign led by Trofim Lysenko against genetics and science-based agriculture in the mid-20th century, rejecting natural selection in favour of Lamarckism and exaggerated claims for the benefits of vernalization and grafting. Lysenko served as the director of the Soviet Union’s Lenin All-Union Academy of Agricultural Sciences.

    The government of the USSR supported the campaign, and Joseph Stalin personally edited a speech by Lysenko in a way that reflected his support for what would come to be known as Lysenkoism, despite his skepticism toward Lysenko’s assertion that all science is class-oriented in nature.[1] More than 3,000 mainstream biologists were dismissed or imprisoned, and numerous scientists were executed in the campaign to suppress scientific opponents. The president of the Agriculture Academy, Nikolai Vavilov, who had encouraged Lysenko, was sent to prison and died there, while Soviet genetics research was effectively destroyed. Research and teaching in the fields of neurophysiology, cell biology, and many other biological disciplines were harmed or banned.

    Other countries of the Eastern Bloc including Poland, Czechoslovakia, and the German Democratic Republic accepted Lysenkoism as the official “new biology”, to varying degrees, as did the People’s Republic of China for some years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

    National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsiɪzəm, ˈnæt-/),[1] is the ideology and practices associated with the Nazi Party—officially the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP)—in Nazi Germany, and of other far-right groups with similar ideas and aims. Nazism is a form of fascism,[2][3][4][5] with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and the use of eugenics into its creed. Its extreme nationalism originated in Pan-Germanism and the ethno-nationalist Völkisch movement which had been a prominent aspect of German nationalism since the late 19th century, and it was strongly influenced by the Freikorps paramilitary groups that emerged after Germany’s defeat in World War I, from which came the party’s underlying “cult of violence”.[6] Nazism subscribed to pseudo-scientific theories of racial hierarchy[7] and Social Darwinism, identifying the Germans as a part of what the Nazis regarded as an Aryan or Nordic master race.[8] It aimed to overcome social divisions and create a German homogeneous society based on racial purity which represented a people’s community (Volksgemeinschaft). The Nazis aimed to unite all Germans living in historically German territory, as well as gain additional lands for German expansion under the doctrine of Lebensraum and exclude those who they deemed either community aliens or “inferior” races.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

    The Bolsheviks (from Russian: bolshinstvo, ‘majority’),[a] also known in English as the Bolshevists,[2][b] were a radical, far-left, and revolutionary Marxist faction founded by Vladimir Lenin and Alexander Bogdanov that split from the Menshevik faction[c] of the Marxist Russian Social Democratic Labour Party (RSDLP), a revolutionary socialist political party formed in 1898, at its Second Party Congress in 1903.[4]

    After forming their own party in 1912, the Bolsheviks took power in Russia in November 1917, overthrowing the Provisional Government of Alexander Kerensky, and became the only ruling party in the subsequent Soviet Russia and its successor state, the Soviet Union. They considered themselves the leaders of the revolutionary working class of Russia. Their beliefs and practices were often referred to as Bolshevism.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolsheviks

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  184. @JohnnyWalker123
    @Buzz Mohawk


    I see that, and I don’t know what happened. What was the gist of the comment?

     

    I remember you said something about Kiwis. You also said that Steve Sailer had been addressing these issues for years.

    I wrote and then deleted a stupid reply to your reply, something about kiwi birds, New Zealanders and shoe polish, but I deleted that. That does not explain what happened, though, because it was a reply to what you wrote.

     

    So I replied to you replying to me.

    I think that when we post our comments, somehow they're sometimes visible before the timer expires.

    That'd explain why you saw my first post (which I later edited/deleted). Then you responded, which I saw and replied to with an edited version of the original comment. Then your response was deleted because the timer hadn't expired. So I'm basically responding to a comment deleted before the timer expired.

    LOL. Sort of interesting.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    Aha. Thanks for figuring that out. Funny how it works. It makes me think of things getting memory holed. LOL

    I really do have an OCD problem, so I sometimes edit excessively or just delete and re-write too many times. Maybe I’ve caused this thing to happen other times as well.

    It would be nice if the software didn’t make one’s comments visible to other people until the editing time has expired.

    I’ll try to cut and paste the relevant parts of this into Ron’s Bugs & Suggestions thread. It might help.

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Aha. Thanks for figuring that out. Funny how it works. It makes me think of things getting memory holed. LOL

    I really do have an OCD problem, so I sometimes edit excessively or just delete and re-write too many times. Maybe I’ve caused this thing to happen other times as well.

    It would be nice if the software didn’t make one’s comments visible to other people until the editing time has expired.
     
    Yeah, I assumed that comments weren't visible to other people until the timer expires.

    I’ll try to cut and paste the relevant parts of this into Ron’s Bugs & Suggestions thread. It might help.

     

    Sounds good. Thanks.
  185. @Redman
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Hang in there Buzz. Same story here in southern Westchester. Isaias was an unexpected bitch.

    But on the bright side, the Metro North to Grand Central was packed for the first time since March 20. Lot of folks can't work from home for a while. I wonder if it will continue when the electricity is restored. Or will the City remain a ghost town until the election?

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk

    You hang in there too.

    I predict the city and the whole country will be locked down until Joe Biden and his colorful, female successor are elected by mail fraud. Then these problems will disappear and the real ones will start to get worse.

    • LOL: Hibernian
  186. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    Actually, I've rather exceeded my modest expectations for myself. That I've turned out to be the most insightful intellectual of my time is not something I ever anticipated. It's rather alarming, in fact...

    Replies: @TheBoom, @JackOH, @the one they call Desanex, @PiltdownMan, @Colin Wright, @JackOH, @Prof. Woland

    Actually, I’ve rather exceeded my modest expectations for myself. That I’ve turned out to be the most insightful intellectual of my time is not something I ever anticipated. It’s rather alarming, in fact…

    I wish to tag that comment with a “LOL” and an “AGREE” tag.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  187. @ben tillman
    @anonymous


    You come off as resentful towards her success because you have the same inferiority complex from a life of middling achievement. Rice University undergrad, UCLA MBA (OK but middling schools) . . . .
     
    Rice is WAY above "middling".

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    Rice is WAY above “middling”.

    UCLA, too.

  188. A possible portrait of Robin DiAngelo in her youth circa the mid and late 1970s, as a serious traveler, possibly even that kind of hardcore traveler committed to medium- or long-haul international nomadism, floating from place to place and “figuring it out” along the way, by choice. Those of us who have lived this lifestyle for any amount of time will recognize the type, or the range of possible personality-types at play here, especially in combination with other known Robin DiAngelo biographical details.

    As I’ve said before, white women who engage in long-term Third World travel, academic work abroad, or aid work return to the West flying enormous red flags.

  189. getting rich

    How ‘rich’ does a writer get from being #2 of the current NYT bestseller list?

    It’s pretty well-understood that the NYT ‘best seller’ list is not simply a list of books by sales count.

    For a start it’s sales from a specific set of bookstores. But even then it gets finagled to reflect the prejudices of the compilers of the list.

    William Peter Blatty (auhor of “The Exorcist”) exposed this back in 1986 when he sued the NYT because one of his books – Legion – had very obviously sold enough copies to appear on the list, but wasn’t on the list.

    The California BlackRobes sided with the NYT – who argued that they were within their rights to construct the list using their own criteria.

    Tom Woods has made clear that getting on the NYT bestseller list does not require a large sales volume (he’s been on the NYT paperback non-fiction list twice): from memory I think he once said that his best-selling book has sold about 250,000 copies over its entire life since 2005.

    The author’s share of sales value would top out at 10% – and is offset against any publisher’s advances (and often, against publishers’ promotional budgets).

    To get onto the all-comers NYT Bestseller list for a single week requires book sales of the order of 5,000 copies. Let’s be generous and say that to get to #2 you have to sell 10x that many books (although that’s massively unlikely, since 50,000 units would suffice to keep a book in the list for a year).

    Nobody’s getting rich by selling books (except maybe J.K. Rowling).

    BigSpeak claims that diAngelo’s speaking fee is $30K; she won’t have been in that price-range for very long (and she won’t stay in that price-range for long either).

    Sam Harris was getting that in the late 2000s, and nowadays is said to be more like $70K, and Sam ain’t rich. Tom Woods is in the $10K-$20K range, and he ain’t rich either.

    As always, there are a bunch of ticket-clippers between the advertised fee and the speaker’s pocket – and the ‘ticket price’ is subject to negotiation.

    TechDirt wrote a very interesting piece a few years ago about how RIAA accounting rips off talent: it had a link to a YouTube video entitled “How To Sell 1 Million Albums and Owe $500,000“… the original version of that video has now been subjected to the gentle ministrations of the YouTube Ministry of Truth; the link is to a version of the same video, uploaded by someone else.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Kratoklastes

    Sam Harris's mom created 11 network sitcoms, including "Golden Girls." He's not poor.

  190. @Buzz Mohawk
    And who is selling Robin DiAngelo to the world, anyway?

    Behind every mediocrity who suddenly bursts upon us, there has to be some managing force. (No, I am not claiming to know who or what it is, or that it is even always the same.)

    Stacey Abrams is another good example of someone behind whom there has to be some kind of support and planning. Alexandria Ocasio-Whatever, the bartender from Westchester County is another one.

    None of these people accomplish anything on their own. They are packaged, marketed products.
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    Our Generac has eliminated our concern about power outages here in the
    Chicago suburbs.

  191. @Reg Cæsar
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Isaias knocked down a lot of trees, taking out power lines. We’ve been on our generator for 37 hours now…
     
    Could be worse...

    "The Beirut explosion transposed over a map of Chicago if the bomb were to have gone off at Navy Pier"

    https://i.redd.it/feom1efhaaf51.jpg

    Replies: @guest007, @MBlanc46

    Thanks. I see that we’re just on the edge of the outer ring.

  192. @Anon55uu
    Interestingly no comment in here about her publisher Beacon Press, which is owned by the Unitarian Universalist Association. Beacon previously most famously published the Pentagon Papers in 1971. The terminology of “white supremacy” etc swept through the UUA denomination pretty quickly, a few years ahead of George Floyd, with various “open letters”, denunciation of heretics, etc such that it’s almost become a new religion of anti-racism. A far cry from the Brahmin religion of, say, Nixon and Ford cabinet member Elliott Richardson 50 years earlier.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @duncsbaby, @Paco Wové, @Peter D. Bredon, @SolontoCroesus, @SunBakedSuburb, @Kronos, @Dumbo, @Hibernian

    Beacon Press in the immediate Post WW2 period published Paul Blanshard who then believed that Catholics shouldn’t be elected to public office, even dogcatcher. This in New England in the mid 20th century. In 1960 he was for Kennedy; go figure.

  193. @duncsbaby
    @Anon55uu

    My dad was a Universalist. He was born and raised in New England during the depression from a lower middle class Republican household. He was a pretty conservative guy all his life. Career military and anti-abortion. Theologically though it was whole 'nother ball of wax; he once related to me when I was a young adult that he never believed in God. He specifically didn't believe Jesus was anymore a deity than any other man. He was definitely a moral conservative though; anti- gay, pro-family and like I said previously, pro-life. What I'm trying to say in my long-winded way is that at one time there were a lot of Unitarians & Universalists in New England who might've been complete squishes when it came to Christianity but were still conservative Republicans. Pop died in May of 2009 and I remember asking him after Obama was elected in 2008 what he thought of there being a black president, his response was to give the classic "pfft" expression - he wasn't impressed.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    The somewhat conservative people in liberal denominations have for many years tended to be older. Now they’ve passed on or are too frail to attend church with few exceptions. Some denominations have openly declared they don’t want them around anymore.

  194. @Reg Cæsar

    Westfield State University is a public university in Westfield, Massachusetts. It was founded in 1838 by Horace Mann as the first public co-educational college in America without barrier to race, gender, or economic class.
     
    Westfield State University = Is Ivy-attuned leftist sewer.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist, @ScarletNumber

    Well it’s easy to look up. The fun would have been guessing, which I correctly did.

    Anyway, if you live in the commonwealth and aren’t too bright, yet you want to be a teacher, Westfield State may be the place for you.

    It’s most famous alumni are George Cortelyou, a former treasury and commerce secretary, as well as postmaster general, and Peter Laviolette, who as a head coach won a Stanley Cup with the Hurricanes.

  195. @Lot
    Andrew Joyce is distraught she’s not Jewish.

    Replies: @3g4me, @DCThrowback, @Colin Wright

    ‘Andrew Joyce is distraught she’s not Jewish.’

    We’re distraught you’re not Jewish. At any rate, it would make you more excusable.

  196. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    Actually, I've rather exceeded my modest expectations for myself. That I've turned out to be the most insightful intellectual of my time is not something I ever anticipated. It's rather alarming, in fact...

    Replies: @TheBoom, @JackOH, @the one they call Desanex, @PiltdownMan, @Colin Wright, @JackOH, @Prof. Woland

    ‘Actually, I’ve rather exceeded my modest expectations for myself. That I’ve turned out to be the most insightful intellectual of my time is not something I ever anticipated. It’s rather alarming, in fact…’

    There is more than one way of looking at it.

  197. @Prosa123
    @Dumbo

    I've heard that UU members vary greatly in what they believe or don't believe, with the doctrine trying to accommodate all views. In past years it was a reasonably popular choice among people who had too little faith to belong to other denominations but weren't outright atheists and still wanted to attend some sort of religious worship,something like the Ethical Culture movement found in New York and a few other cities. Most likely that doesn't happen much anymore, and it's more like a social club than an actual church. I've even heard stories about their activities functioning as meeting places for affluent, somewhat older single people.

    Replies: @Anon

    Kind of like Freemasonry, then. Minus the cabalistic rituals.

  198. @Kratoklastes

    getting rich
     
    How 'rich' does a writer get from being #2 of the current NYT bestseller list?

    It's pretty well-understood that the NYT 'best seller' list is not simply a list of books by sales count.

    For a start it's sales from a specific set of bookstores. But even then it gets finagled to reflect the prejudices of the compilers of the list.

    William Peter Blatty (auhor of "The Exorcist") exposed this back in 1986 when he sued the NYT because one of his books - Legion - had very obviously sold enough copies to appear on the list, but wasn't on the list.

    The California BlackRobes sided with the NYT - who argued that they were within their rights to construct the list using their own criteria.

    Tom Woods has made clear that getting on the NYT bestseller list does not require a large sales volume (he's been on the NYT paperback non-fiction list twice): from memory I think he once said that his best-selling book has sold about 250,000 copies over its entire life since 2005.

    The author's share of sales value would top out at 10% - and is offset against any publisher's advances (and often, against publishers' promotional budgets).

    To get onto the all-comers NYT Bestseller list for a single week requires book sales of the order of 5,000 copies. Let's be generous and say that to get to #2 you have to sell 10x that many books (although that's massively unlikely, since 50,000 units would suffice to keep a book in the list for a year).

    Nobody's getting rich by selling books (except maybe J.K. Rowling).

    BigSpeak claims that diAngelo's speaking fee is $30K; she won't have been in that price-range for very long (and she won't stay in that price-range for long either).

    Sam Harris was getting that in the late 2000s, and nowadays is said to be more like $70K, and Sam ain't rich. Tom Woods is in the $10K-$20K range, and he ain't rich either.

    As always, there are a bunch of ticket-clippers between the advertised fee and the speaker's pocket - and the 'ticket price' is subject to negotiation.

    TechDirt wrote a very interesting piece a few years ago about how RIAA accounting rips off talent: it had a link to a YouTube video entitled "How To Sell 1 Million Albums and Owe $500,000"... the original version of that video has now been subjected to the gentle ministrations of the YouTube Ministry of Truth; the link is to a version of the same video, uploaded by someone else.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Sam Harris’s mom created 11 network sitcoms, including “Golden Girls.” He’s not poor.

  199. anon[219] • Disclaimer says:
    @ben tillman
    @Veracitor

    You make some good points. McWhorter, by the way, is now aware of the Jeantel fraud and discusses it with Glenn Loury here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t-wtTEp7G0

    Replies: @anon, @Art Deco

    That was pretty tedious, even though I listened to it while eating lunch and trying to do other things. On the one hand, McWhorter was more honest than I expected on the topic of Jeantel’s perjury (which is a crime in other circumstances) and Loury was more scholarly than I expected.

    On the other hand, these two are midwits. They may turn on the polysyllables from time to time, but they seem to have a lot of trouble with elementary reasoning of the A -> B -> C form. The fact that they are tenured faculty at universities of prestige must have a bit more to do with color of skin than content of vitae.

    I know, I know, they are really smart in whatever their speciality is. Well, maybe so, but frankly I’ve been around people like this in multiple institutions. It’s the whole “I read the NY Times and the Washington post plus my local paper and listen to All Things Considered, so I’m very, very well informed!” academic hothouse groupthink mindset. Smug ignorance. Neither one of them mentioned the physical evidence of the powder burns on Martin’s garment – something a well informed individual would know about. Neither one mentioned the fact that NBC was caught outright editing the 911 tape audio to make it appear that Zimmerman said something he did not say. Something a real truth seeker would know about and be outraged over.

    Then Loury is amazed that somehow no major media outlet explored these issues. Where has he been for the last 20, 30, 40, 50 years? How could he have missed the mass journalistic malpractice over Monica’s dress – it made Drudge’s reputation for a while. I cannot but wonder about deliberate, willful self-blinkering – Loury doesn’t want to know about the media gaslighting, so he never looks. I

    It’s frustrating. This is the best and the brightest of moderate liberalism. This is as good as it gets, maybe. About on a par with a high school English Lit teacher in terms of analytical thinking…and I’m thinking of specific teachers I know, too.

    tl;dr
    It’s pretty cool to see older guys who have sort of an open mind, but they aren’t as smart as I’ve been told. Not even close.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @anon

    I generally agree, although my expectations were probably lower than yours. By the way, I did hear them discuss the NBC editing of the Zimmerman phone call, but that might have been in part 2.

    , @Art Deco
    @anon

    On the other hand, these two are midwits. They may turn on the polysyllables from time to time, but they seem to have a lot of trouble with elementary reasoning of the A -> B -> C form. The fact that they are tenured faculty at universities of prestige must have a bit more to do with color of skin than content of vitae.

    Both have produced dozens of scholarly articles in addition to their topical commentary. There is nothing anomalous about their position on a research university faculty. Loury in particular has published in several divergent subdisciplines in economics.

  200. @Buzz Mohawk
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Aha. Thanks for figuring that out. Funny how it works. It makes me think of things getting memory holed. LOL

    I really do have an OCD problem, so I sometimes edit excessively or just delete and re-write too many times. Maybe I've caused this thing to happen other times as well.

    It would be nice if the software didn't make one's comments visible to other people until the editing time has expired.

    I'll try to cut and paste the relevant parts of this into Ron's Bugs & Suggestions thread. It might help.

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Aha. Thanks for figuring that out. Funny how it works. It makes me think of things getting memory holed. LOL

    I really do have an OCD problem, so I sometimes edit excessively or just delete and re-write too many times. Maybe I’ve caused this thing to happen other times as well.

    It would be nice if the software didn’t make one’s comments visible to other people until the editing time has expired.

    Yeah, I assumed that comments weren’t visible to other people until the timer expires.

    I’ll try to cut and paste the relevant parts of this into Ron’s Bugs & Suggestions thread. It might help.

    Sounds good. Thanks.

  201. @Federalist
    @Franz


    Hail can keep his theory.

    As an actual blue-collar person from a very blue-collar area, I can tell you she has “plant” markers plastered all over her.
     
    Did you read what Hail wrote? He researched and wrote two well reasoned articles on Robin DiAngelo's biography and on the rise of DiAngelo's "white fragility" concept. Of course, Hail may be wrong but his theory is supported by more than your ability as a person with a blue collar background to identify "plant markers."

    Replies: @Franz

    Did you read what Hail wrote?

    Yes but his context is lacking.

    Look, I wasn’t always an old foundryman, I was an editor when I got out of the service. I fled back to honesty when I was apprised of what was happening, and why. Hot metal is more honorable.

    Between Portnoy’s Complaint in 1969 and Fear of Flying in 1973, a sea-change took place in US publishing. Novels and even nonfiction was henceforth tightly controlled; the CIA’s infiltration of the television networks was done by then, they wanted the rest.

    By the mid-70s books were all basically submitted to a censor, it’s the only thing that you can call them, but let the proof be what you see: Very few publisher’s row books are worth it. Most of the stuff people read is on the net or from small outfits, or pay-your-own way book publishing.

    This can only be apprised by example, here’s a good one:

    https://www.islam-radio.net/historia/ihr2/ihr-3.htm

    The relevant section in case the link goes dead (always possible):

    At one meeting, at MCA-Universal (the studio which produced “Schindler’s List”), the discussion was interrupted when a latecomer entered the studio head’s office and took a seat next to Marchetti. He was a little, nondescript person who seemed out of place in the production meeting. The studio head halted the discussion and, turning to the little man, asked if he bad any problems with the project after having read the treatment, an abbreviated script. The man, speaking with a foreign accent, said no, smiled at Marchetti, and departed.

    “Who is he?” Marchetti asked the studio head.

    The powerful Hollywood boss answered, “He’s an Israeli. I just wanted to make sure there was nothing in this movie that he would not like.” As the meeting continued, Marchetti began to count noses. Of the nine people in the office, Marchetti was the only non-Jew. It reminded him of many meetings he bad attended in the publishing world in New York, where often be bad been the only Gentile out of a dozen or more people discussing a book project.

    Marchetti’s Jewish agent leaned over and asked in a whisper, ‘What are you thinking about?”

    “Everybody in the room is Jewish except me.” “Forget about that,” the agent said. `You just better hope that your Jews are smarter than the studio’s. We’re talking big bucks.”

    This is how it’s been for a half-century, and it includes the cupcake under scrutiny. This is probably a “Soul on Ice” situation. A Black Panther named Eldridge Cleaver made some rants in a tape recorder, scribbled many notes, then turned it over to a female ghostwriter who turned it into a topical bestseller, Soul on Ice. He was praised for his style and intelligence. It was a fraud.

    My experience tells me White Fragility is less a fraud but still heavily worked to make it part of the whitey-must-die corpus. These books have to hit all the right buttons and ring all the right bells, just like Cleaver’s did all those years ago. (And the song remains the same.)

  202. @Anonymousse
    @Bardon Kaldian


    In virtually all areas, as I’ve said, to become someone, you have to have talents in that area (in others, you may be fool or mediocre). You must be a real deal, whether this is exact sciences, arts, literature, entertainment, business, politics,….
     
    Either you haven’t been in business or our definition of “talent” differs significantly.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    To achieve something significant in virtually all areas means you have to have a talent. I am not talking about heirs, corrupt bootlickers or family connected dumbos.

    I am talking about self-made businessmen, and to achieve something in that field, you got to be gifted for that specific area. You may have talent, but you are simply unlucky, so nothing comes out; destiny may interfere & you lose.

    But achievers are always gifted; bootlickers or whores or corrupt sleazers never achieve prominence of that kind. Bill Clinton, in politics, is a truly talented man for that area. Never mind his morality & sleaze. He has gifts. The same goes for prominence in business.

  203. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    Actually, I've rather exceeded my modest expectations for myself. That I've turned out to be the most insightful intellectual of my time is not something I ever anticipated. It's rather alarming, in fact...

    Replies: @TheBoom, @JackOH, @the one they call Desanex, @PiltdownMan, @Colin Wright, @JackOH, @Prof. Woland

    Your writing reads like great source material for a gutsy stand-up guy willing to cultivate a sort of White Richard Pryor routine.

    (I’m definitely not in the entertainment business, but I think there’d be some mileage in working why Black History Month is the shortest month of the year. What’s up with that extra day every four years? Etc. Just a thought.)

  204. @Undocumented Shopper
    Getting rich at 62 is not that great. For most of her life she probably drove cheap autos and did not travel overseas.
    It's harder to enjoy money in one's sixties - a lot of people have health problems at that point and become fatigued easily.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    It’s harder to enjoy money in one’s sixties

    Harder still is to enjoy poverty

  205. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    None of those are happening, in particular not #1. Having their worthless Fentanyl addicted relative getting offed by the popo is like a winning the Pick 6 lotto for these ghetto families. You are looking at a high $ settlement from the gubmint. LaTanya Haggerty's family got $18 million.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/28/us/police-shootings-payouts.html

    I am a very principled person but for $18 million even I would put out tea and crumpets for Ben Crump.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    None of those are happening, in particular not #1. Having their worthless Fentanyl addicted relative getting offed by the popo is like a winning the Pick 6 lotto for these ghetto families.

    There are about 150 blacks killed by police officers in a typical year. How many win the lottery? Winning the lottery a la Freddie Gray’s family requires a complete abandonment of fiduciary duty by the corporation counsel (under his own steam or at the insistence of worthless pols like Stephanie Rawlings Blake). It also helps when the state’s attorney can buffalo the coroner into making a bogus ruling.

    (Btw, I don’t recall TM’s parents had any sort of claim against any party).

  206. @ben tillman
    @Veracitor

    You make some good points. McWhorter, by the way, is now aware of the Jeantel fraud and discusses it with Glenn Loury here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t-wtTEp7G0

    Replies: @anon, @Art Deco

    You make some good points. McWhorter, by the way, is now aware of the Jeantel fraud and discusses it with Glenn Loury here:

    Her testimony took up a lot of time, but it wasn’t salient information. Taken at face-value, it just confirmed some bits you could infer from things TM did. The important information was (1) the recording of Zimmerman’s conversation with the non-emergency dispatcher, (2) the autopsy report, (3) photographs taken of Zimmerman’s head at the scene, (4) the testimony of the eyewitness to the fight standing 30 feet away, (5) the crime scene photograph which demonstrated where Zimmerman dropped his key chain, (6) maps of the complex, and (7) recordings of 911 calls people in the complex made when the fight got underway.

  207. @Jack D
    Westfield State is not a joke. It's a real college that has been around since 1838 and was founded by Horace Mann himself. Horace Mann was the man who was most responsible for advancing the idea of free, non-sectarian "public school" for everyone - male and female, black and white. Americans take the idea of free universal elementary and high school for granted as if it had always existed (and not even right wingers consider it to be "socialist") but it might not have existed (or become popular only decades later) if not for Mann.

    Anyway, Mann's idea required a large force of trained teachers who did not exist so one aspect of it was the creation of dozens of public "normal schools" to train teachers. Normal is a word borrowed from the French and in this context it means to The term "normal"refers to the goal of these institutions to teach certain norms to their students. Westfield State started out as Westfield Normal School. Many such places eventually changed their name to "X Teacher's College" as the word Normal went out of fashion.

    Teacher's Colleges were modest places with modest goals - to train a workforce of mostly females to teach mostly elementary school. Blue collar daughters might become the first to receive higher education in their families is such a school (these places charged tuition but it was modest and state subsidized). Only in the post World War II education boom did these places start pretending to be real Universities and renamed themselves and changed their goals accordingly.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Reg Cæsar, @prosa123, @Uncle Jack

    Westfield State has an extraordinary record of scandals (financial, sexual) resulting
    in the resignations of its presidents. Look up Dobelle, Buchen, Pilecki.

  208. @Dumbo
    @Anon55uu

    I had no idea about this "Unitarian" Universalist Church and after having briefly looked at it in Wikipedia, I am none the wiser. What exactly do they believe in? Do they perform mass? They don't even seem to believe in God or in Jesus. Maybe they now worship St. Floyd, or the Coronavirus?

    Replies: @anon, @Prosa123, @Uncle Jack

    Here’s the Unitarian Prayer:

    O God (if you exist)
    Have Mercy on my Soul (if I have one.)

    Further:

    What do you get if you cross a Jehovah’s Witness with a Unitarian?

    Answer: Somebody who goes door to door, talking about nothing in particular.

    I hope this helps.

  209. @anon
    @ben tillman

    That was pretty tedious, even though I listened to it while eating lunch and trying to do other things. On the one hand, McWhorter was more honest than I expected on the topic of Jeantel's perjury (which is a crime in other circumstances) and Loury was more scholarly than I expected.

    On the other hand, these two are midwits. They may turn on the polysyllables from time to time, but they seem to have a lot of trouble with elementary reasoning of the A -> B -> C form. The fact that they are tenured faculty at universities of prestige must have a bit more to do with color of skin than content of vitae.

    I know, I know, they are really smart in whatever their speciality is. Well, maybe so, but frankly I've been around people like this in multiple institutions. It's the whole "I read the NY Times and the Washington post plus my local paper and listen to All Things Considered, so I'm very, very well informed!" academic hothouse groupthink mindset. Smug ignorance. Neither one of them mentioned the physical evidence of the powder burns on Martin's garment - something a well informed individual would know about. Neither one mentioned the fact that NBC was caught outright editing the 911 tape audio to make it appear that Zimmerman said something he did not say. Something a real truth seeker would know about and be outraged over.

    Then Loury is amazed that somehow no major media outlet explored these issues. Where has he been for the last 20, 30, 40, 50 years? How could he have missed the mass journalistic malpractice over Monica's dress - it made Drudge's reputation for a while. I cannot but wonder about deliberate, willful self-blinkering - Loury doesn't want to know about the media gaslighting, so he never looks. I

    It's frustrating. This is the best and the brightest of moderate liberalism. This is as good as it gets, maybe. About on a par with a high school English Lit teacher in terms of analytical thinking...and I'm thinking of specific teachers I know, too.

    tl;dr
    It's pretty cool to see older guys who have sort of an open mind, but they aren't as smart as I've been told. Not even close.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Art Deco

    I generally agree, although my expectations were probably lower than yours. By the way, I did hear them discuss the NBC editing of the Zimmerman phone call, but that might have been in part 2.

  210. @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    Actually, I've rather exceeded my modest expectations for myself. That I've turned out to be the most insightful intellectual of my time is not something I ever anticipated. It's rather alarming, in fact...

    Replies: @TheBoom, @JackOH, @the one they call Desanex, @PiltdownMan, @Colin Wright, @JackOH, @Prof. Woland

    I think the comparison between Steve and DiAngelo is an apt one. On one hand you have someone who pursued the truth and paid a very dear price with his career v. someone who sold out for her daily mess of pottage. The fact that her book sold copies has nothing to do with it being any good; she just exploited the never ending subsidized market for white hating self-loathing material and then got lucky.

  211. @anon
    @ben tillman

    That was pretty tedious, even though I listened to it while eating lunch and trying to do other things. On the one hand, McWhorter was more honest than I expected on the topic of Jeantel's perjury (which is a crime in other circumstances) and Loury was more scholarly than I expected.

    On the other hand, these two are midwits. They may turn on the polysyllables from time to time, but they seem to have a lot of trouble with elementary reasoning of the A -> B -> C form. The fact that they are tenured faculty at universities of prestige must have a bit more to do with color of skin than content of vitae.

    I know, I know, they are really smart in whatever their speciality is. Well, maybe so, but frankly I've been around people like this in multiple institutions. It's the whole "I read the NY Times and the Washington post plus my local paper and listen to All Things Considered, so I'm very, very well informed!" academic hothouse groupthink mindset. Smug ignorance. Neither one of them mentioned the physical evidence of the powder burns on Martin's garment - something a well informed individual would know about. Neither one mentioned the fact that NBC was caught outright editing the 911 tape audio to make it appear that Zimmerman said something he did not say. Something a real truth seeker would know about and be outraged over.

    Then Loury is amazed that somehow no major media outlet explored these issues. Where has he been for the last 20, 30, 40, 50 years? How could he have missed the mass journalistic malpractice over Monica's dress - it made Drudge's reputation for a while. I cannot but wonder about deliberate, willful self-blinkering - Loury doesn't want to know about the media gaslighting, so he never looks. I

    It's frustrating. This is the best and the brightest of moderate liberalism. This is as good as it gets, maybe. About on a par with a high school English Lit teacher in terms of analytical thinking...and I'm thinking of specific teachers I know, too.

    tl;dr
    It's pretty cool to see older guys who have sort of an open mind, but they aren't as smart as I've been told. Not even close.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Art Deco

    On the other hand, these two are midwits. They may turn on the polysyllables from time to time, but they seem to have a lot of trouble with elementary reasoning of the A -> B -> C form. The fact that they are tenured faculty at universities of prestige must have a bit more to do with color of skin than content of vitae.

    Both have produced dozens of scholarly articles in addition to their topical commentary. There is nothing anomalous about their position on a research university faculty. Loury in particular has published in several divergent subdisciplines in economics.

  212. @Grumpy
    @Dumbo

    Mr. Sailer has actually made me appreciate DiAngelo's accomplishments. The people who know how to play the academic game are impressive in their own way. If you don't mind cynically spouting whatever nonsense people want to hear, you can go far. A lot of modern life is like that. Some people are born on second base, but DiAngelo wasn't.

    Replies: @Prof. Woland

    Teaching is a “safe” profession with low risk career path; it should follow that the rewards are commensurate.

    First of all, it is physically safe, or at least should be which is one reason it is so appealing to women. The work is all daytime hours, indoors, there is no heavy lifting or chance of being injured, there is no sweating or traveling, etc. Di Angelo and her over permed hair, pressed blouse, and fussy glasses looks the part. (BTW. her youthful appearance probably has something to do with plastic surgery).

    But it is also far less risky financially. It is usually a government job so there is a relatively high floor to wages including people starting out and they get health insurance. It is also impossible to get fired. The problem is that there is an oversupply of people willing to do the job so it caps out what someone can earn on the high end. You are also part of a herd. The exception it seems are people selling snake oil so they can rise in the hierarchy or get their 15 minutes of fame. This where they have to go from being woke to being malignantly woke.

  213. @Prosa123
    @Ganderson

    Most of the communities in Western Massachusetts are decent enough. Springfield has the usual array of urban troubles (though it's better than Hartford just down the road), Holyoke is run down in parts, but that's about it.

    Replies: @Ganderson, @MEH 0910

  214. @Jane Plain
    @R.G. Camara

    If her father was Jewish, wouldn't she be more intelligent?

    Replies: @throtler

    No.

  215. @Anonymous
    @TheBoom

    Women are muddleheads who don't know what they're saying.

    Replies: @throtler

    Blah, blah, blah. Shut up, you ignoramus.

  216. @Redman
    @PiltdownMan

    What a colossal piece of shit NY Magazine is. This is supposed to make the two vandal lawyers appear sympathetic? The article tries to justify these idiots's rage because of DJT's policies. Totally insane.

    Is it just me, or does the media seem to be intentionally trying to stoke a civil war? All the news is infused with rank opinion untethered to reality.

    Replies: @Forbes

    It’s not you.

    Is the media intentionally trying to stoke a civil war?

    Only if they considered the consequences of their actions–but they (Dems) don’t ever consider consequences–it’s all about their feelz.

    All the news is infused with rank opinion untethered to reality.

    Which is why it’s not worth any attention. It’s not news–it’s entertainment.

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