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From the NYT opinion page:

Help Me Find Trump’s ‘Anarchists’ in Portland

The president has his politically driven narrative. And then there’s reality.

By Nicholas Kristof
Opinion Columnist

July 29, 2020, 4:23 p.m. ET

PORTLAND, Ore. — I’ve been on the front lines of the protests here, searching for the “radical-left anarchists” who President Trump says are on Portland streets each evening.

I thought I’d found one: a man who for weeks leapt into the fray and has been shot four times with impact munitions yet keeps coming back. I figured he must be a crazed anarchist.

But no, he turned out to be Dr. Bryan Wolf, a radiologist who wears his white doctor’s jacket and carries a sign with a red cross and the words “humanitarian aid.” He pleads with federal forces not to shoot or gas protesters.

“Put your gun barrels down!” he cries out. “Why are you loading your grenade launchers? We’re just standing ——”

And then they shoot.

Dr. Wolf, an assistant professor at Oregon Health Sciences University, helps at a medic stand operated by volunteers from the medical school. Could they be radical-left anarchists? No, they’ve imposed order on the anarchy of the street by establishing qualifications for field medics and a hierarchy among them, so that any badly injured protester will immediately get the right kind of care.

See, they are organized so they can’t anarchists!

Also, they are anarchists so they can be an organization, and thus they are not liable under the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization law!

Accomplishing all this while tear gas is swirling and impact munitions are whizzing by, without even asking for insurance cards — that seems the opposite of what fanatical anarchists might do.

Maybe the rioting anarchists were in front of the crowd, where there are discussions about Black Lives Matter? I found musicians and activists and technicians, who were projecting a huge sign on the wall of a nearby building — “Fed Goons Out of PDX” — that seemed a bit geeky for anarchists.

Oh, wait, there was a man using angry language about the federal “occupation” and calling it “abhorrent.” Lots of protesters don’t seem to like him, so could he be a crazed anarchist rioter?

Oops, no, that’s just Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler, sputtering after being tear-gassed by the feds.

Listen up, people, we at the New York Times spent the last six years telling you in excruciating detail about the menace posed by the radical right. If the radical left were important, wouldn’t we have, you know, gotten around to mentioning them? So, logically, they don’t exist.

 
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  1. Daniel H says:

    Believe Jerry Nadler, he’s always been earnest and truthful.

    • Replies: @Alan Mercer
    , @Anonymousse
  2. fnn says:

    Che was a physician. His firing squads also killed 30,000.

    • Agree: TWS, Gordo
    • Thanks: Hibernian
  3. First there was Badge Man – a mysterious figure implicated in the JFK assassination – now there’s Umbrella Man:

    Police in Minneapolis say a man known as “Umbrella Man”, seen damaging property in the city during the Black Lives Matter protests, has links to white supremacy groups.

    People took to the city’s streets following the death there in May of George Floyd, an unarmed black man.

    Police say Umbrella Man helped turn the largely peaceful protests violent.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53579099

  4. guest007 says:

    Steve,

    Since you like to reference law and order episodes, they have an episode about some eco-terrorist that law enforcement had problems dealing with since the eco-terrorist were not organized.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  5. Michael S says:

    CNN is now more objective than the New York Times. Peak clown world.

    Does the Times actually do news anymore, or is it just 24/7 spin doctoring?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  6. JimDandy says:

    Haha, so true, Mr. Kristof! Look at this little rascal. Such a geek:

    • LOL: Gabe Ruth
  7. El Dato says:

    But the Real Question is, did they find the Bungalow Boys?

    • Replies: @Kyle
  8. slumber_j says:

    These instances Mr. Kristof gives us are oddly chosen and drawn. Evidently he believes we’ll buy that hard-left people can’t be mayors or doctors or tech types…or musicians, or activists?

    • Agree: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    , @J.Ross
  9. El Dato says:

    That’s what this is about: politics. The big threat in Portland and across America is not anarchists but Covid-19, so Trump welcomes street clashes to change the subject.

    Ah, we back at COVID-19.

    If he actually cared about the defacement of the federal courthouse in Portland, he would remove the graffiti; instead, he leaves it there for photo ops. It’s the protesters, not the federal authorities, who deploy teams each night in Portland to clean up the area around the courthouse.

    Trump thinks of everything. Remove the Graffiti Mr. President! No, not Ghaddafi – Graffiti!! But wait, if the protestors (not even the city!) deploy teams to clean up at night, why is the area trashed in the morning? Is time running backwards? Maybe these statues that were “coming down” were really being erected in another timeline? Are we in a Star Trek episode?

    • Thanks: Mr McKenna
  10. Has anyone tried looking next to the starving Kulaks?

  11. If the radical left were important, wouldn’t we have, you know, gotten around to mentioning them? So, logically, they don’t exist.

    The radical white left. Let’s never forget that.

    Were I mayor of a besieged city, I’d order the police to shoot any white rioters, and ignore the rest. Their activity is suspicious on its, pardon the expression, face.

    See what happens then.

    Oh, and for the same reasons, let’s repeal the 23rd Amendment. Whites will probably surpass blacks in the District of Columbia. And unlike blacks, almost all of them are allowed to vote.

  12. The NYT is operating on the assumption that major news organizations still hold a monopoly on information, as they did pre-internet. If Kristof wants to find anarchists he can simply consult the 100+ hours of livestream footage that has no shortage of prime anarchist content.

    Thirty years ago he might have been able to make that argument and be believed because at that time most people assumed the news wouldn’t blatantly lie and there wasn’t much evidence to the contrary of what media corporations claimed. Now with the internet we can actually break down every single lie of these rags and explicitly prove them wrong. What’s sad is that people will still ignore this enormous wealth of decentralized information and trust the liars.

  13. HEL says:

    Similarly we’re getting another round of hysteria over “umbrella man” in Minneapolis, the guy who broke windows in the AutoZone. Leftists have long deemed that since he employed the unbelievably sophisticated tactics of covering his face and swinging a hammer (apparently leftists have not yet evolved to the point that they can use tools?) he must be some sort of super secret agent provocateur. Originally they insisted he was some rando cop cause if you look at the pics you can clearly see that they are both white guys with precisely 2 eyes, so obviously they are the same person. But I guess this fell through and now they’ve determined it’s some Nazi Hell’s Angel. Really. Because some guy said that some guy said that he was, but they can’t testify directly cause they’re so scaaared! And once this CopNaziHellsAngelSecretAgent broke a couple windows, well there was just no way that thousands of people in dozens of cities could’nt not riot. So he’s solely responsible . . .

    To sum up the left’s position on all this: the riots aren’t riots and the rioters are nazis actually and arresting these nazi rioters is also fascism and the only thing scarier than a “militarized” police are police that use unmarked vehicles. These fuckin’ people . . .

  14. OT:

    Indian authoress chides her countrymen for not being worshipful of dark skin (read: blacks):

    https://www.vulture.com/2020/07/indian-matchmaking-dating-reality-tv-colorism.html

    Just part and parcel of the ongoing religious hysteria here on Planet Jonestown.

  15. I can tell you are pissed at this lying SOS, Steve, or else just miffed by his utter gall to present this stupidity. You left out a couple of words: “… so they can’t be anarchists!” and “Also, they are anarchists so they can‘t be an organization,”

    “Fed Goons Out of PDX”

    Honestly, I can’t argue with this one, Steve-o. I’ve about had it up to the top of my COVID-proof face mask with the TSA! They are talking about the big Portland airport, right? Cause … I mean nobody but ‘tards calls cities by their ICAO airport codes.*

    Peak Stupidity discusses COVID / TSA twin peaks of stupidity and Different venues for TSA Security Theater.

    Back to the subject, I do wonder how all that damage got done though. If there are no radical anarchists anywhere in sight, then it’s got to be those wild colored boys, cause nobody else does that shit.

    .

    * OK, KPDX for you sticklers.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  16. @slumber_j

    He found that one radiologist, the only guy within blocks to have a real job. What’s great about being a radiologist out there, is when you get shot with impact munitions, as Dr. Wolf has 4 times, you can just drop by the ER, and presto, FREE X-RAYS. Some call it “doctor privilege”.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
  17. i’d get hearing aids if steve would UN-unz his own self.

    appearing on unz totally discredits him.

    so his jive falls on deaf ears.

    • Replies: @prime noticer
  18. J.Ross says:

    Do these urinalists not understand that there’s video? There’s both livestreaming every night from multiple locations plus individual videos. I collected several gig of mini videos before someone gave me the link to a huge video archive he’d put on Mega, which had little overlap with what I already had, so there must be even more out there. That was months ago. There’s been more video since then.
    These people requiring signed timestamps with photo ID to “prove” the presense of violent left-wingers — in the Pacific northwest! — are the same people who expect you to believe in Phantom Nazis and Boogey Men because they said so. There must be apoliticals getting forced awake because of this arrogant sloppiness.

  19. A little OT, but since everything on planet earth is now about race… in a sense, nothing is OT.

    If we need to “have a conversation about race,” then let it at least be an intelligent one. (yes, and maybe monkeys will fly out of my ass.)

    But here goes nothin’.

    A long while back, the rather rational black music magazine The Source did one of those list-bits where they made a list of The Greatest Top 100 Albums Of Whatever.

    Being a black-music magazine, it rather understandably skewed towards black music, as you would reasonably expect. But the list was also reasonably fair to white musicians, and included a healthy share of the usual suspects.

    But here’s where it gets interesting. Outside of Lester Bangs, Robert Christgau, and Hanif Abdurraqib, most pop music criticism doesn’t have much insight or integrity. But The Source, in their list, said something actually insightful and interesting.

    This is what they said: as part of their Top 100, they named the great Talking Heads record “Remain In Light.” But their commentary was insightful and true: they said, Just as only Nixon could go to China, it needed an incredibly uptight avant-garde white intellectual like David Byrne to persuade a white audience that black musical expressions like Afro-funk were actually, genuinely serious artistic endeavors. Which was true, because at the time, white avant artists only took themselves seriously, and treated black artists patronizingly as amusingly funky background characters on Sesame Street.

    So to admit that, as a serious observation, but not admit a flood of nonsense that wishes to be associated with it, is to start a first chapter in actual honest “conversation” about race.

  20. J.Ross says:
    @slumber_j

    Or that, if a person is a doctor or a veteran or a mother, that gives them license to commit [or materially support the commission of] violent crimes.
    HOW DID THE COURTHOUSE GET BURNT, PROSTY NICK? WAS THAT A [email protected]%#ING BAKE SALE THAT GOT EXUBERANT?

  21. Anonymous[426] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: One of Trump’s funniest and most awkward and most savage tweets ever today… he will win suburban mom votes on this issue even though they hate him for publically going about it like this.

    It’s conan the vulgarian! Here to rescue the effete status seeking snobs. Too funny.

    I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood…Your housing prices will go up based on the market, and crime will go down. I have rescinded the Obama-Biden AFFH Rule. Enjoy!

    PS REMEMBER THE CYNICAL MACHIAVELLIAN WAITED 3.5 YEARS TO DO THIS and no the scotus decision didn’t magically make this possible it was possible in jan 2017

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @Anonymous
  22. I took a walk down an alley here in North Seattle and a guy was next to his truck facing out making plywood shields with loops on the back for handholds. Next morning the truck was parked facing in with all the shields in the back.

    I wonder where he went with those shields? Roman legionary LARPing their Testudo formation?

  23. Franz says:

    “If white supremacy wasn’t real, we’d have to invent it.” — New York Times

    Wait a minute, they DID invent it.

  24. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Jordan Peterson delivers wise council to Antifa, by way of advice to a disenfranchised ugly fat chick:

  25. Altai says:

    Just in time they’ve apparently discerned the identity of the much hyped and mysterious ‘umbrella man’ who smashed the windows at the auto store that burned the second or first night. He is apparently a member of a white supremacist motor cycle gang, apparently in addition to being a Hell’s Angel. But who would know who he is and turn him to the police? Despite the limited importance of him, the media is going nuts.

    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/07/28/warrant-white-supremacist-instigated-looting-at-george-floyd-protest-in-minneapolis

    https://triblive.com/news/world/police-hells-angel-sparked-minneapolis-riots-over-george-floyd/

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53579099

    Police in Minneapolis say a man known as “Umbrella Man”, seen damaging property in the city during the Black Lives Matter protests, has links to white supremacy groups.

    People took to the city’s streets following the death there in May of George Floyd, an unarmed black man.

    Police say Umbrella Man helped turn the largely peaceful protests violent.

    Footage of the man wearing a mask and carrying an umbrella while smashing shop windows went viral online.

    In the video, taken on 27 May, Umbrella Man can be seen breaking the windows with a hammer as people approach him trying to get him to stop. He then walks away from the scene.

    Police said he also sprayed a message on the doors of the store.

    It sparked questions as to who the man was and his motives.

    Violence broke out in the city during the protests and the National Guard were called in after looting was reported and buildings were set on fire.

    Police claim that the man’s actions were a catalyst for the violence. The AutoZone store he was seen damaging in the video was later set on fire.

    Erika Christensen, Minneapolis police investigator, said in a search warrant affidavit filed on Monday: “This was the first fire that set off a string of fires and looting throughout the precinct and the rest of the city.”

    The affidavit aims to get access to the man’s mobile phone records for that day to establish where he was at the time of the incident.
    Who is Umbrella Man?

    He has not been named by local media as he has not been formally charged with a crime.

    Minnesota police extensively searched through video footage of the violence to try to identify the man but had no luck.

    According to the Star Tribune, the man was identified following an email tip-off. The email claimed the man was a member of the Hells Angels biker gang.

    An investigation found that the man was also connected to the Aryan Cowboys, a prison biker / street gang. The Anti-Defamation League identifies them as a white supremacist group based primarily in Kentucky and Minnesota.

    A search warrant by Minneapolis Police claims that the man has previous convictions for domestic violence and assault.

    It was these previous arrests that officers claim helped them identify the man. They compared images taken from the incident in Minneapolis to previous booking photos.

    The warrant claims that the man’s size and eye, nose and brow area match that of Umbrella Man.


    It is also alleged that the man was involved in an incident last month in which a Muslim woman was confronted by a motorcycle group wearing Aryan Cowboy leather vests.

    After footage from the Minnesota protests was released online, there were many theories as to who Umbrella Man might be.

    The St Paul Police Department was forced to issue a statement and a video denying that he was one of their officers.

    Police Chief Todd Axtell said: “We knew right away that our officer was not involved in instigating the unrest in Minneapolis because we knew exactly where he was at the time – and he was in St Paul.

    “This type of disinformation can jeopardise the officer’s reputation and safety, and chip away at the trust this police department has worked so hard to build with its community,” he added.

    Umbrella man was fairly suspicious but given how quickly he was on the scene in full garb, it always seemed more likely to be something done by the FBI. Is there any chance the membership of something called the ‘Aryan Cowboys’ isn’t mostly feds?

    Okay, so there is a white supremacist biker gang called the ‘Aryan Cowboys’ going around intimidating Hijabis and this the first we’re hearing of it in the media?

    Also, they ID’d him from just his eyes and brow?

    Here is the original video, make your own mind up if he is a white supremecist biker who planned this all out in the space of a day, a socially awkward white anti-fa or a fed.

  26. Yngvar says:

    I remember the reporter — with a tremble in his voice — telling us how Israeli soldiers shot palestinian “protesters” with “rubber-covered Steel Bullets!”.

    Any rubber-covered Steel Bullets! a.k.a rubber bullets in Portland, Oregon?

    Well, still no sympathy.

  27. I note that Nick Kristof didn’t go wander around the CHOP while it was still liberated terrain. Was that because he didn’t get an invitation, or because he was afraid to put himself too close to a “warloard”, or just because he didn’t want to get shot?

    Kristof wants to overthrow the government of the United States by force. When do we get to call this treason?

    • Replies: @Dan
  28. Anonymous[262] • Disclaimer says:

    Is Leftism an ultimate “Mary Sue”?

  29. Anonymous[212] • Disclaimer says:

    Whites believed Jewish Power’s endless lies on the Palestinian issue. So, when the same thing is done to whites, isn’t it poetic justice?

    Those who believed the Liar about another people eventually get defamed by the same Liar.

    Path to truth can only begin by naming the Liar. So-called Mass Media are mostly Jewish Mendacity and its craven cucks.

  30. Note the non-mention of teachers in that diverse list provided. They’re adjusting optics as it’s becoming more evident just how many of these ‘peaceful protestors’ chucking rocks at police are actually those we (mistakenly) trust to educate our future generations.
    Similar to how they changed from chaz to chip to avoid a Waco/Ruby Ridge response, they adapt quickly in the optical realm.

  31. mousey says:

    So They’re Nihilists.

  32. Altai says:
    @Altai

    Wikipedia has already been edited to lay the whole blame on this guy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Minneapolis

    The vast majority of protests in Minneapolis–Saint Paul have been peaceful. In Minneapolis, some initial acts of property destruction on May 27 by a 32-year-old man with ties to white supremacist organizations, who local police investigators said was deliberately inciting racial tension, led to a chain reaction of fires and looting.

  33. notsaying says:

    There’s been arsons and destruction in Portland. It did not happen by itself.

    I am sure that most protesters are not violent. But some are. Why can’t Nicholas Kristof not find them? I don’t know.

    But there are violent troublemakers in Portland. There’s evidence of that. Maybe the Times needs to send some interns out to find them who can blend in. Maybe the Times could interview law enforcement and some of the people they arrested.

    • Replies: @guest
    , @AaronInMVD
    , @ic1000
  34. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    The amusing contrast is with the quasi majority peace political movement of the 60s radicals, where mob violence was more factionalized and their were people earnestly saying peace was better than war. Is now these, often women, come out to the podium and mouth the same words and themes, with the background some looted vandalized street or ongoing crime and low level battle full of militarized members of the left.

    Its pure satire !

  35. Cortes says:

    Evidence of absence of reporting is not the same as absence of evidence of wrongdoing.

  36. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:

    If you’re a peaceful protestor who, by continuing to show up, provides cover for this, are you really peaceful?

    • Thanks: Hibernian
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    , @Anonymousse
  37. guest says:

    “Honorary African” Nicholas Kristof writes like he’s Alice in Wonderland.

    Reality is not quite this confusing, sir.

  38. guest says:
    @notsaying

    Well, he’s not only not looking for them; he’s actively trying to ignore them. So it’s kinda easy not to find them.

    “It did not happen by itself”

    It happened because Trump, according to the current Narrative. But of course we can remember that something or other was happening before there was any federal response. As time goes by, the Narrative relies on you losing memory of that.

    • Agree: TWS
  39. SFG says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I always figured they should make DC a state–look, they are Americans, they should be represented. To maintain partisan balance, how about splitting off New York City from New York State? Upstate sends two Republican senators, even-stevens.

    • Replies: @Half Canadian
    , @Reg Cæsar
  40. usNthem says:

    Kristof – another lying leftard from former America’s least reliable “paper of record “.

  41. AaronInMVD says: • Website
    @notsaying

    Why would they go looking for what they don’t want to see. Never mind the left radicals in the US organizing on social media platforms where would-be right activists get FBI entrapped. They neither want to find nor report organized left violence so they won’t. It isn’t a matter of blending in or not. It isn’t a matter of manpower. It’s an intentional absence of coverage that they hope, in retrospect, can be written off as negligence.

  42. @Altai

    They’ve finally found the Great White Offender.

    And they’re not going to let go. I’ve seen the stories about this guy on every single news site online. He’s famous! He’s the Face of Domestic Terrorism!

    50,000 rioters and they focus on this guy.

    • Replies: @Altai
  43. Ano says:

    Old Narrative: Mostly peaceful protesters

    New Narrative: Totally peaceful protesters…

    In the film version of the Battle of Portland, Dr Bryan Wolf will be played by Alan Alda from MASH.

    • LOL: Hibernian
  44. ic1000 says:
    @notsaying

    Michael Tracey is an International Man of Mystery, and really, really hard to find. So it’s no wonder that Nicholas Kristof didn’t seek him out.

    Not that he has anything meaningful to say about the riots, anyway. Or their aftermath. Or the media coverage/lack thereof.

    However much they pay Kristof, it’s not nearly enough. He’s like the Thomas Friedman of the NYT. They sure do live up to their motto, “Democracy Dies In Darkness!!!

  45. @Anonymous

    Characteristically ham-fisted, Trump wrecks most anything he touches.

    Of course, the MSM are playing this as “Trump rescinds Fair Housing Rule”

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-suburbs/in-play-for-suburban-votes-trump-rescinds-obama-era-fair-housing-rule-idUSKCN24U35O

    “President Trump is actively working to gut fair housing laws and legalize housing discrimination,” U.S. Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer wrote in a tweet. “We will fight this.”

    “Let’s be clear: the President is using racist fear-mongering to say he’s happy to dismantle civil rights in search of a political advantage,” Democratic U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren wrote on Twitter.

    Not a word in any MSM story I can find about how AFFH planned to invalidate single-family zoning.

    • Replies: @Polynikes
    , @Buffalo Joe
  46. @Reg Cæsar

    I think we all knew it would come to this at some point.

    “You’re not black on the inside, I’m more black than you on the inside”

    A white #BLM Activist says to first gen African-American immigrant Doctor @stella_immanuel

    As he attempts to disrupt the White Coat Confernce about HCQ in DC

    https://www.rt.com/usa/496480-blm-protester-covid-doctor-confrontation/

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  47. fnn says:
    @Altai

    Let me be the first to mention that there was another Umbrella Man who figured prominently in JFK conspiracy theories.

  48. A radiologist, how sweet! It makes for a change from the classical lunatic who is an ophthalmologist. The guy who claimed he “discovered” covid while the Chinese already closed the wet market in Wuhan was an ophthalmologist. The woman who claims Navalany is sodomized by the KGB, and who knows precisely the number of infections in Russia, is another ophthalmologist. Even Romania has its own TV ophthalmologist, who “knows” that covid deaths are exaggerated.

    The common thread is that, of course, a radiologist or an ophthalmologist would know about acute wound care or about respiratory infections just as much as you know. Are we going to pretend Dr Wolf is not there for a faculty promotion?

    • Replies: @Thirdtwin
  49. I would say that Kristof is delusional or naive but as an opinion columnist for the nyt what he writes is gospel. They want the readers to be delusional or naive.

  50. Lot says:

    Semi-OT:

    John Lewis has been dead for 12 days now, and he’s still daily news, with his corpse remaining on tour, traipsing around America, crossing the Pettus bridge in Alabama yesterday, lying in state in the Georgia Capitol today.

    This raises many morbid questions.

    Isn’t there some limit of 5 days or so to how long a corpse stays fresh with normal embalming?

    Or did he get the full Lenin mummy treatment in preparation to repose him permanently on display on the site of the demolished Washington Monument?

    Is there a way He and Floyd could tour together as part of a saintly supergroup? Petty, Harrison and Dylan made a LOT of money with the Traveling Wilburys. I, poor sinning racist I am, want to pay $75 (plus Ticketmaster fee) for the chance to approach their sacred and sorrowful biers, caress their caskets of ivory and gold, and just briefly bask in the healing presence of their ¡BLACK! reliquaries.

    • Replies: @IHTG
  51. Altai says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Early on in May it was suggested he was a MPD officer and one officer’s ex-wife fingered him. The fact that this guy was with the ‘Aryan Cowboys’ was implicated by email and was ID’d on the basis of him being a white supremacist and ‘matching’ the guys eyes and brow. The fact he was arrested and this was announced prior to them even establishing if he’d been in the area. They aim to try to achieve this from his phone, that’s how good the ‘brow match’ was apparently.

    I don’t know, shades of ‘appalling vistas’ to me.

    • Agree: vhrm
  52. @Altai

    Gangs in prison naturally form along racial lines. There are black gangs, Hispanic gangs, and white gangs. The white gangs are always identified as “white supremacist.” Black gangs are not identified as “black supremacist,” nor are Hispanic gangs called “Hispanic supremacist.” Any group that is predominantly white is called white supremacist, whether its members would describe themselves as such or not. It’s basically a media designation. For example, the Proud Boys are described as white supremacist even though its members reject that label.

  53. Dan says:
    @No Recent Commenting History

    I keep praying that Nick will be accosted by some yutes on a dark night and relieved of his iPhone, ten minutes of consciousness, and a unit of blood. Spare his life, ok?.

  54. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Which was true, because at the time, white avant artists only took themselves seriously, and treated black artists patronizingly as amusingly funky background characters on Sesame Street.

    That’s an unfair smear! I learned about funk AND the alphabet thanks to Roosevelt Franklin…

    What you say?

    I’m sayin’ Roosevelt Franklin…

    Yay yay yay!

    Remember Roosevelt Franklin…

  55. Thea says:

    OT – so very 2020 in New York

    A Zimbabwean American of Greek (Dem) decent gets upset in her race for New York State assembly by a Ugandan American of Indian descent from the socialist party whose Complexion makes Freddy Mercury look swarthy .
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/zohran-mamdani-unseats-aravella-simotas-in-astoria-assembly-race/ar-BB1745ay

  56. Polynikes says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Nobody outside of this blog knew this policy existed. It might be “racist” but it’s just ham fisted enough to be understood by the average suburban housewife. They can pretend all they like, but they live in the suburbs for a reason.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
  57. Polynikes says:

    I’m pretty sure when the revolution comes the journos get it first.

  58. @Altai

    You have to really read lying media accounts carefully to figure out what the actual facts are.

    Here, the cops don’t have enough information to arrest this unnamed suspect. Rather, the information is all “according to a search warrant for the man’s phone records.” The search warrant itself appears to be based on nothing more than “an emailed tip.”

    The suspect is supposedly about the same height and has s similar nose bridge as the man in the video. But that’s exactly what they said about the cop they were trying to finger originally.

    Anyway, the suspect’s phone records may show he was nowhere near the riots at the time. But the cops didn’t wait for the facts and just leaked the subpoena itself in order to get the “white supremacists” angle into the narrative.

    I’m guessing some activist/journalist group made the “emailed tip” as part of a deal for the MPD to then write up and leak the arrest warrant so the journalists could put it out to support the Narrative.

    We’ll see. But I’d wager the guy never gets charged, and yet the media will just keep citing the story as if it somehow proves “white supremacists” (maybe in league with the Russians) are to blame.

    P.S., Whoever he is, “Umbrella Man” is a really creepy suspicious dude.

    • Agree: Lot, Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Alden
  59. And you were just reviewing a film about Walter Duranty…

  60. J.Ross says:
    @guest007

    Antifa is highly organized, the idea that they are not prosecutable is fake news like “Russian bounties,” “election hacking,” or “hydroxychloroquine shown ineffective in studies.” Antifa at its most conceded and forgiven are what Eastern Europeans called “hooligans.” Hooligans are thoroughly prosecutable by being hooligans. Observers of antifa have remarked on how street swarms will have a leader (often female) who directs all the action, can pull it back, and usually stands behind protective ranks of drones. This is just rumor but it is claimed that willing turncoats, informants, and grade-by-grade compromise operations are working. If this is true it would be consistent with past operations against similar terrorists and would explain why some of the vanned are not cuffed (would you want to van a guy without cuffing him?).

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
  61. J.Ross says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Indeed, everyone at the time said that the young, trim, fit white guy who walked like a square (hellllo, umbrella) was clearly a cop, giving off cop vibes, doing something self-explanatorily in the interests of cops, and then left the scene in the direction of the nearby police station. The people in the video called him a cop and attempted to get him to admit it (he dodged the question). Plus if he is a cop the police have legal cover to just lie. That’s not conspiracy, it’s 100% legal procedure. Everything about him said “cop” (or recent former military) and nothing said “biker.” Who has ever seen a biker who looked like that?
    I reflexively contested him being a cop at the time, but the more I watched the video the more sense it made. Originally the story was “leftist rioting doesn’t matter because of this provocateur cop.” Now it’s “leftist rioting doesn’t matter because of this provocateur racist.” The essential point remains: why is anyone spending any time on this guy at all?

    • Replies: @vhrm
    , @Harry Baldwin
  62. I nominate Nicholas Kristof for the Walter Duranty award.

    At least Stalin had to put some effort into deceiving Duranty. With Kristof, no effort is required.

    • LOL: Muggles
  63. Anon[804] • Disclaimer says:

    For all the boomers:

  64. J.Ross says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Indeed, the Proud Boys reject white nationalism and supremacism and direct advocacy, what with their co-founder being black and all.

  65. Anonymous[195] • Disclaimer says:

    In a way, the fear of right-wing violence is understandable. Currently, whites are confused, clueless, cucked, divided, and apathetic. But if the majority of whites were to realize what was really done to them and gained racial consciousness, they could form a power and unleash violence on a scale that is frightening. It’s like Japan didn’t take the US all that seriously as most Americans seemed unwilling to fight or even to have much of a military, but once Pearl Harbor happened, White Rage was truly frightening stuff for the Nipponese.

    So, white right violence is currently non-existent, but if white racial consciousness were to waken like Kipling’s Saxon, stuff like Antifa violence would be wussy stuff by comparison.

    But for the moment, the violence is overwhelmingly ‘leftist’ and black. And the hunt for ‘right wing terror’ is about a sensible as calling the Ghostbusters.

    White consciousness is suppressed by the Power. White guys at Charlottesville gathered for a speech and were law-abiding, but they were surrounded and attacked by police and antifa. And the media and establishment did everything to vilify and defame them.

    But black thugs and antifa lunatics tear the nation apart, but the Power is cheering them on. What does that tell you?

  66. @Reg Cæsar

    #23 is offensive to the republic.

    It’s ridiculous that the Government gets 3 (minimum) Electoral votes.

    As history has shown, the Government will always vote for more of itself. Indeed, those votes have always gone to the colossal government (DEM) candidate.

    Over time, while GOP and DEM electors will average out one another, DC will vote blue every time. So that’s like gifting the election to the DEMs once every 90 years.

    It’s also ridiculous how a relatively postage stamp-sized city can usually cancel out a Montana.

    Of course, the institution of the government getting its own EVs pre-dates 23. The Government owns huge chunks of the mountain states. That pretty much ensures that those states will vote the Government’s way.

  67. Anonymous[504] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    The syndicated headline on this bog-standard journolism reax was pretty funny:

    Trump Is Happy to Inform Suburban Voters That He Is Still a Racist

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-suburban-voters-suburban-fair-housing-act-1032625/

    I’d hoped for it to become a ’20 campaign sticking point. Late now to find room for it, I guess. Oh well

  68. anon[133] • Disclaimer says:

    Paraphrasing Sinclair Lewis, it is difficult to get Nicky Kristof to see Antifa when his salary depends on him not seeing them.

    I guess intellectual bankruptcy is OK as long as there’s no danger of the financial version.

    On the other hand, the NYT has been on the case of umbrella man for a while.
    Just look at this!

  69. Thirdtwin says:

    I thought Doctors Without Borders were a bunch of preening Ebola Egos back in Obama Era, but these Riot Nurses take it to to a whole new level. We’re going to see many more of these insufferable jagoffs, thanks to Kristof.

  70. @Henry's Cat

    Police say Umbrella Man helped turn the largely peaceful protests violent.

    Probably was the umbrella what did it. Either that, or the Man’s Unbearable Whiteness of Being.

    • LOL: paranoid goy
  71. @HEL

    HEL, after “umbrella man” broke the windows he walked away. Seeing an opening the “mostly peaceful” crowd looted the store and burned it. And now you know the rest of the story.

  72. anon[133] • Disclaimer says:

    The ongoing dance of the tech oligarchies revolves around Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. “We’re just a provider!” one day and “We publishers can edit whatever we want” the next. Jack Dorsey’s Twitter has been playing this game along with Google and Facebook.

    The Commerce Department has petitioned for clarity.

    https://www.commerce.gov/news/press-releases/2020/07/commerce-department-files-petition-clarify-liability-protections-online

    The petition was filed in response to the May 2020 Executive Order on Preventing Online Censorship. It calls on the FCC to make clear when online platforms can claim section 230 protections if they restrict access to content in a manner not specifically outlined under the Act.

    The petition also seeks further clarity from the FCC:

    * Whether, and to what degree, Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act provides protection for social media’s content moderation decisions

    * The conditions under which content moderation and editorial decisions by social media companies shape content to such a degree that section 230 no longer protects them

    * Social media’s disclosure obligations with respect to their content moderation practices

  73. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    Kind of OT, but the military grade lasers some of the Antifa mob is employing will not only give you lasting eye damage, if one gets a direct shot on your camera lens, it will damage your camera’s sensor, requiring an expensive, time-consuming replacement.

    One angry Antifa lesbian could damage or destroy tens of thousands of dollars in cameras of all types in a night.

    News crews with their expensive broadcast-level Sony cameras are gonna hate it.

    https://www.ilda.com/camera-sensor-damage.htm

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Harry Baldwin
  74. Thirdtwin says:
    @Dacian Julien Soros

    I was waiting for you you to mention Bashar Assad. Those ophthalmologists sure do get around.

    • Replies: @Dacian Julien Soros
  75. @Mr McKenna

    Mr Mc, and Schumer quietly turms to Warren and whispers…”That was close, they were going to build in my neighborhood.”

    • LOL: Mr McKenna
  76. @Mr McKenna

    Mr. Mc, i thought they were all pink in the inside.

  77. It’s amazing our media still thinks it has power to sell this slop to a big audience. New York Times, the big readership is gone. It’s not coming back. You can rig and jig your subscription numbers anyway you want, but you’re sinking. And everyone – even the people you deplore – know it. And we’re laughing at you.

    • Agree: Justvisiting
  78. @Altai

    a 32-year-old man with ties to white supremacist organizations, who local police investigators said was deliberately inciting racial tension, led to a chain reaction of fires and looting.

    Worth repeating. All hail the all-powerful wypipo deliberate inciter!

    Everyone else, coast to coast? Dindu Nuffins. Note Caps.

    [MORE]

    Progressive liberals are exquisitely sensitive to the correct formulary use of language, even as they neglect the lives of actual black people who are murdered by criminals every day in America’s cities. This irony is nothing but bitter. Capitalizing the word ‘Black’ is not going to save a single black child from a drug dealer’s bullet. Defunding, demoralizing, and abolishing the police, on the other hand, will predictably result in more black lives being lost to crime, which white liberals insist is a problem that went away after 1992. Yet the politics that matters for corporate America and its media has little to do with crime in the streets. Instead it’s concerned with psychological manipulation, and the mastery of language is of great value for that purpose. Progressive liberals get a psychic reward from incanting the right words, and they audit the incantations of others as indications of their obedience to the faith. While the faith lives, this kind of moral monitoring and oneupmanship (pardon the expression) is motivational and inspires conformity. It also deadens the conscience and encourages a righteous ruthlessness. The turmoil in the op-ed offices is one sign of that, but it is as nothing compared to the conscience-free outlook the liberal elites have on mayhem and murder in the streets. Next to the ideological and political struggle, the violence just doesn’t matter, except in that it’s useful.
    https://spectator.us/mock-revolution-elites-protests-amazon/

  79. J.Ross says:

    At Second City Cop Blog:

    Story from a regular reader of ours:

    My wife and I went to get tested at the Covid-19 location up in Norridge. We’re older and with assorted health issues, so it made sense. We get registered, they take all of our info and tell us it’s a 45 minute wait. No big deal, right? So we wait and wait and wait. After an hour and fifteen minutes, we decided the heck with it and headed home without being tested. We’ll just get up earlier and do it in a week or so.

    Ten days later guess what arrived in the mail? Our test “results” telling us we were both positive, even though we left without being swabbed. This whole thing is looking more and more like a scam.

    It certainly is, and this would be a slam dunk for any reporter worthy of the name, but don’t expect the media to do anything that might interfere with the narrative.

    • Replies: @gcochran
  80. @Achmed E. Newman

    The real privilege would have been to just wear your lead apron.

  81. Tyler Cowen runs off the rails with Nathan Nunn on Affica.

    COWEN: What do you find to be the most convincing account of Botswana’s relative economic success?

    NUNN: A few things. One is, Botswana is pretty small in terms of population. Anytime you have smaller countries, you can have more extreme outcomes. That’s one, that it’s small. But then related to that, it’s, in general, ethnically homogenous, particularly compared to other countries within Africa. The Tswana are the predominant ethnicity. They also have a historical social structure, and I think that was pretty well maintained and left intact. That’s a big part of the explanation.

    Bad, Bad Nathan Nunn!

    [MORE]

    COWEN: Is it fun to visit Democratic Republic of Congo?

    NUNN: Yeah, it’s great. Yeah.

    COWEN: Tell us what’s fun. I need to go once I can.

    NUNN: Yeah, it’s really, really great. The first time we went as a team — this is James Robinson, Sara Lowes, Jonathan Weigel in 2013 — we were pretty apprehensive. You hear a lot of stories about the DRC. It sounds like a very unsafe place, et cetera. But one thing we didn’t realize or weren’t expecting was just how lovely and wonderful the people are.

    And it turns out it’s not unsafe in general. It depends on different locations. In the east, definitely near Goma, it’s obviously much, much less safe. But I think what, for me, is wonderful is the sense of community. Because the places we go are places that haven’t been touched, to a large extent, by foreign aid or NGOs or tourism, I think we are treated just like any other individual within the community.

    https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2020/07/my-conversation-with-nathan-nunn.html

  82. Harold says:

    He pleads with federal forces not to shoot or gas protesters.

    “Put your gun barrels down!” he cries out. “Why are you loading your grenade launchers? We’re just standing ——”

    And then they shoot.

    Was this after fifteen clear instructions from federal officers to disperse? Like that black guy who kept insisting he wasn’t resisting?

    Adults acting like bratty children.

  83. Corvinus says:

    “Who are you gonna believe”

    Not Trump nor iSteve. Hate facts –> POTUS has spent the year coddling Q-Anon and his acolytes and individuals and groups who seek a “civil war”.

    https://www.startribune.com/police-umbrella-man-was-a-white-supremacist-trying-to-incite-floyd-rioting/571932272

    https://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/2020/07/27/police-richmond-riots-instigated-by-white-supremacists-disguised-as-black-lives-matter/

    I thought Republicans/conservatives prefer that local authorities deal with matters without federal involvement, especially when it was other than demanded or requested. Looks like Trump is utilizing Nixon’s playbook.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/29/justice-department-law-enforcement-presence-trump-386276

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/29/operation-legend-doj-to-send-officers-to-detroit-cleveland-milwaukee/5535490002/

    So the Trump Administration now considers it important, compared to last year or four years ago, that “violent crime” in urban areas is a serious threat that must promptly be dealt with. Gee, I wonder why. Here’s a quote from someone Mr. Sailer remains cagey on acknowledging his legitimacy…

    That Barr is already lying about the timing, necessity, utility and success of Operation Legend—as well as how perfectly it was synchronized with the rollout of Trump’s new campaign theme—tells us that federal agents executing Operation Legend *won’t* be hiding in back rooms…Why did he [AG Barr] announce Operation Legend at the same time Trump pivoted to an anti-crime message—if Operation Relentless Pursuit was already extant and with the same aim? Why does he now claim Relentless Pursuit did *nothing* in 3 months?

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @anon
  84. @SFG

    Have the residents vote in Maryland’s elections. That should solve it more easily.

  85. @ancient gay aliens who killed JFK

    “appearing on unz totally discredits him.”

    starting to feel the same.

    i don’t really wanna be associated with Ron Unz. i respect him as a thinker even when i disagree with him, but i was posting on iSteve 20 years ago. i never had any interest in Ron Unz, Mr. no bilingual education California guy. the merger with unz.com feels artificial to me, and the more crazy Ron Unz gets as time goes on, the less i want to be posting on here.

    especially since the crazy, old version of Ron Unz thinks his website won’t be purged under the Biden Administration. which it will be. so i hope Steve has plans for when that happens. because unz.com is going away.

    • Replies: @Thirdtwin
  86. Peterike says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “ it needed an incredibly uptight avant-garde white intellectual like David Byrne to persuade a white audience that black musical expressions like Afro-funk were actually, genuinely serious artistic endeavors. Which was true, because at the time, white avant artists only took themselves seriously, and treated black artists patronizingly as amusingly funky background characters on Sesame Street.”

    That is ludicrously wrong.

    • Agree: GoRedWings!
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  87. Anon[150] • Disclaimer says:

    Watching a lot of these videos and reading accounts, it tends to come down to groups of protesters who are told to disburse after a declaration of unlawful assembly by the cops, they don’t, the cops tolerate it for a while while continuing to tell them to disburse, and then a half hour later come gas and rubber bullets. At the moment that happens, yes, the crowd is not doing anything different than they had been doing five minutes before: they had simply been continuing in a “mostly peaceful” violation of a police order.

    This is basically a group white version of the individual black conduct of “I don’t feel like being arrested today” thing. If a cop tells you he is going to arrest you, that’s what is going to happen, and you can make it easy or make it hard (and maybe get killed if you force them to sit on you or shoot you). Likewise, if the cops tell you they are going to clear the streets, that’s what’s going to happen, and you can leave then, or you can wait around and maybe take a supersonic Nerf ball to your testicles later.

    Someone should redo Chris Rock’s video for mass protests.

    Another factor in mass assemblies is the menace factor of groups: Police have to take into account that they are outnumbered and if don’t show some potentially injurious force to deter the bulk of the crowd the police themselves can be put in danger.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  88. @Corvinus

    So the Trump Administration now considers it important, compared to last year or four years ago, that “violent crime” in urban areas is a serious threat that must promptly be dealt with. Gee, I wonder why.

    Hmm, maybe because violent crime is skyrocketing this year, thanks to policies you promote, nitwit? If the rest of us didn’t have to deal with people like you, crime would just about vanish. We know how to make that happen.

    As for Umbrella Man, RTFT, and STFU.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  89. Peterike says:
    @Altai

    “ a 32-year-old man with ties to white supremacist organizations, who local police investigators said was deliberately inciting racial tension, led to a chain reaction of fires and looting.”

    Gosh I know if I was there, meaning no harm, the site of this guy breaking windows would have set me off on an unstoppable looting rampage that I would have no personal control over.

    It always comes back to Liberals thinking blacks have no agency.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  90. @SFG

    I always figured they should make DC a state

    How many working farms are there in the District today? Community gardens don’t count.

    …look, they are Americans, they should be represented.

    No, they are not. They are Marylanders. Read Article IV, Section 3. Why should Maryland get four senators and 13 electors?

    The Virginians retroceded in 1847. That’s why it looks like a partially eaten sandwich rather than the original square:

  91. J.Ross says:

    Unfortunately, Dennis Prager was right again. CDC: lockdown suicide, OD killing more than WuFlu.
    https://www.redstate.com/michael_thau/2020/07/27/head-of-cdc-lockdown-suicides-drug-ods-killing-way-more-americans-than-covid/

    • Replies: @HA
  92. Redman says:
    @HEL

    It amazes me that the left is suddenly figuring out that cops sometimes are “unmarked and unidentified.” I’ve see a lot of busts in NYC and they’ve always been by undercover cops. They’re the only ones who do the real police work in the inner cities. For at least 30 years.

  93. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    The Stop Making Sense tour (1984) was probably emblematic of peak black-white relations in the US.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Corvinus
  94. @Peterike

    No white musician before David Byrne ever took a black musician seriously?

    That’s why Charlie Parker was ignored until the 1980s?

    • Agree: Redman
  95. Redman says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Sort of. But what about The Clash and The Police which did way more by popularizing reggae for a much wider audience I suspect? Were they represented?

    • Replies: @Amerimutt Golems
  96. Hibernian says:
    @Henry's Cat

    There were many umbrella men and women at this protest/riot in Grant/Maggie Daley Park in Chicago, screening the ringleaders from observation.

    It’s a half hour log video; from about 2:00 to 8:00 is very instructive and worth going through the first 2 minutes.

  97. Hibernian says:
    @Michael S

    CNN started as a somewhat moderate organization; NYT has been leftist since WW1, although they supported, for tactical reasons, Eisenhower in 1952.

  98. @The Anti-Gnostic

    The murder rate in 1984 was the lowest in the 1972-1995 era. I’m not sure why. It was a brief Era of Good Feelings in general.

  99. Hibernian says:
    @Pop Warner

    The NYT is operating on the assumption that major news organizations still hold a monopoly on information, as they did pre-internet.

    They’re supremely confident they will hold it again, post-Biden.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  100. @Polynikes

    Well, I hope you’re right, but I see the MSM playing Schumer and Warren relentlessly about how Trump is trying to kill black people, or at least keep them in slavery. Look at what they said! Not a word of it was truthful. Where’s that vaunted MSM fact checking?

  101. anon[296] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Not Trump nor iSteve.

    Of course you will believe what you are paid to believe, and regurgitate in comments the lines you have been fed.

    It’s boringly predictable.

  102. @Henry's Cat

    Oh, I beg to differ, H. C.

    Umbrella Man in Dealey Plaza remains an enigma to guys like Errol Morris.

    Yet Umbrella Man just “happened” to be in the kill zone, pumping his umbrella up and down vigorously after JFK was first hit (but was still very much alive at that moment.)

    Was Umbrella Man providing a visual cue to the spotters for another volley?

    You bet.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  103. gcochran says:
    @J.Ross

    It’s a lie.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  104. @Achmed E. Newman

    I mean nobody but ‘tards calls cities by their ICAO airport codes.*

    It’s common in the travel industry. Those transferred from Los Angeles refer to themselves as “ex-LAX”.

    https://rare.us/rare-humor/wife-shares-hilarious-post-after-husband-accidentally-eats-entire-laxative-chocolate-bar/

  105. @Steve Sailer

    This is just one of those instances where the Internet is an annoying failure as a method of communication, because I could make my argument more clearly understood if we were just hanging out and having martinis at Jones.

    You and the other chaps are not responding sensibly to what I actually said. I was talking about what The Source said about Talking Heads and what it meant for a certain perception of another perception. In other words, my remark was about discourse and interpretation, and what The Source said and how it relates to a larger discursive process, not about what Gerry Mulligan thought about Miles Davis. I’m willing to bet I know much better than any of you about white musicians having high regard for black music, but that’s a personal matter; still, if you can play a better version of “Basin Street Blues” than me, well, I’ll spot you a C-note. In the meantime, stop having opinions about things you seem not to have understood.

  106. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Apologies for the kinda-sorta tone of bitchiness in that last comment: I didn’t mean to be insulting or nasty; like I say, the Internet is two-dimensional, it’s all very Ernie Bushmiller, and I could be clearer, and more civil, about what I meant in person. Whaddaya gonna do.

    Like PJ Harvey once hilariously said:

    “Move it over, Tarzan. Can’t you see I’m bleeding.”

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @kaganovitch
  107. J.Ross says:
    @gcochran

    Like Bolsonaro’s three different positive tests? Like one rally infecting but another rally not infecting? Like the kumquat? Like the fraudulent paper which had to be withdrawn? Like the gushing blood from every orifice? Like the shakes (remember the shakes?)? Like the lyingpress claiming that people who use hydroxychloroquine aren’t really doctors, but not using those words, to avoid being sued?

  108. J.Ross says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Am I reading this right in that Steve is agreeing with Peterike and disagreeing with the Source over-crediting one guy in the late seventies?
    This appears to be part of the same larger trend of pulling down statues, rewriting history, and not knowing how to do research: top ten lists are obnoxious and disgusting on their own, but on top of their innate awfulness, most media on media nowadays has no depth at all. It clearly came from Wiki or whatever old pieces are already well-known. David Byrne is famous and current (sorta recent collabs with Eno and St Vincent), who now remembers Mother’s Finest or James White or and so on, so Byrne it is.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    , @ben tillman
  109. anon[335] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    These lasers are clearly weapons. It is no different than pointing and firing a gun at someone. It’s an outrage that these thugs aren’t shot and killed by police for doing this.

  110. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Talking Heads’ “Remain in Light” was one of my favorite albums.

    It was one of the first to introduce African pop styles to American audiences (other than occasional novelties like “Lion Sleeps Tonight” and “Pata Pata”). The next summer, I listened to a huge amount of African pop when I shared an office at UCLA with a fellow from Cameroon. It was all very nice, although it seemed a little lacking in star power, more communal than American popular music.

  111. @Hibernian

    Thanks for posting the video.

    I watched up until the point you mentioned. Like so much of the footage I’m seeing from Portland, Chicago, etc., it looks like instant replay of last year’s Hong Kong riots.

  112. @Daniel H

    Mostly truthful politicians.

    Mostly truthful media (MTM).

  113. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Just be glad it was down here in the hundreds where no one will see it.

  114. @J.Ross

    Hmm. I remember when Byrne first* did it, thinking how hackneyed it was and that the Heads had jumped the shark. I liked “I Zimbra” though, and still do. Along with the album it was on.

    *Not counting his cover of Al Green that made him famous in the first place.

  115. Alden says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    What if umbrella man was a super super sneaky operatives and got on an Amtrak train at the Portland station, hid his phone under a seat and then get off? Or threw it in the bed of a pick up truck at a gas station?

    Umbrella man spies are always doing that in movies.

  116. @Steve Sailer

    I was actually at the summer concert in Central Park, in I think 1980, when the Heads unveiled “Remain In Light” for the very first time. Nobody in our world had ever heard anything like it. You have to understand, we were a bunch of white teenage avant-garde artsy punk rockers, and we went to the concert expecting to drink a lot of beer and hear “Psycho Killer” and “I’m Not in Love.” Instead we were met with the Heads having about nine African conga players and an extra bassist (Tina Weymouth is an excellent and sexy bass player, but Busta Jones kinda burned her).

    We were all a little, um, surprised.

    The only other time I was ever quite that surprised was when PJ Harvey unveiled “Rid Of Me.” I had known about her from artsy-asshole circles before she broke big, but I was unprepared to see her go live. She just had a trio, just her bassist and drummer, and she’s a tiny little slip of a girl. She comes out barefoot, in a slinky little sundress, with this guitar slung on her that looks about nine times too big, and greets the audience with this tiny, shy, polite British-girl accent. Then she starts to sing, and I thought an earthquake was destroying the place, or Godzilla was attacking Tokyo. It was like witnessing an exorcism.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  117. On reflection, what’s really amazing is that all these people are ‘protesting’ something that doesn’t exist.

  118. See, they are organized so they can’t [be] anarchists!

    Also, they are anarchists so they can[‘t] be an organization, and thus they are not liable under the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization law!

    A little groggy there, @steve-o?

    • Replies: @anon
  119. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    The year before Remain in Light, Talking Heads put out an African-influenced track “I Zimbra” that I can recall my friends finding refreshing. So, there was a hint that Talking Heads might move in that direction.

    Their October 1980 show in Pasadena with 9 musicians and with the opening act English Beat was my favorite ever.

    • Agree: Just another serf
  120. @Reg Cæsar

    Those aren’t travel agents running amok around the streets of PDX Portland, Oregon, Reg.

  121. vhrm says:
    @J.Ross

    The essential point remains: why is anyone spending any time on this guy at all?

    SOME time is warranted. He should be found and persecuted for breaking windows.

    But there are 1000 worse cases of vandalism assault and arson that ate worse and haven’t so much as been reported let alone followed-up on two months later like this guy.

  122. Gordo says:
    @Altai

    Police claim that the man’s actions were a catalyst for the violence.

    What a catalyst you turned out to be
    Loaded the guns then you run off home for your tea
    Left me standing, like a naughty schoolboy

    We came out of it naturally the worst
    Beaten and bloody and I was sick down my shirt
    We were no match for their untamed wit
    Though some of the lads said they’ll be back next week

    Hello-hurrah, there’s a price to pay, to the Eton rifles
    Hello-hurrah, I’d prefer the plague, to the Eton rifles

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  123. Aardvark says:
    @Pop Warner

    Usually when I hear Democrats blaming someone else for something, it is because that is exactly what they are doing. I refer to it as “projection of the self”. So if the NYT blames rioting and looting on the right wing, there are definitely left wing people doing it.

    This has been in their playbooks for years. Another example is a political leader that runs their country using Socialist leaning ideas. Then they are left wing and the left will own it. If the suddenly start committing ethnic cleansing? Instant conversion to right wing and the left now disowns their dirty laundry.

    Democrats sponsoring endless regulation? “Good for us”, they exclaim! “We did something useful”! Then when it blows up the marketplace because of unintended consequences, they will claim “capitalism failed” and run away from their mess like it was a stinky diaper.

  124. @Redman

    Sort of. But what about The Clash and The Police which did way more by popularizing reggae for a much wider audience I suspect? Were they represented?

    For me Alistair Campbell stands out.

    He was lead vocalist for an actual reggae group. His wholesale appearance contrasts with your usual uncouth Jamaican with dreadlocks. Campbell was also Scottish by descent like Byrne.

  125. IHTG says:
    @Lot

    Burying the dead ASAP is an underrated Jewish custom.

  126. Years ago I sat in a university audience listening to Nicky Kristoff do a slide presentation on one of his excursions through some third world hell hole.

    In person the guy is awful: he comes off as a prissy, goody-two-shoes in love with his own enlightened world view. Also, he strikes me as suck-up from kindergarten on — anyone he sensed who would promote him. He was one the NYT’s biggest Hillary ass-kissers in 2016.

  127. Corvinus says:
    @Mr McKenna

    “Hmm, maybe because violent crime is skyrocketing this year”

    Murder, yes. Other crimes, no.

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation-world/ct-nw-nyt-crime-statistics-murder-increase-cities-20200706-weu7o754lrbsxbcs4vrf4ywxdy-story.html

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/marleycoyne/2020/04/11/crime-rates-across-us-drop-amid-the-coronavirus-pandemic/#5d3d6834311e,

    “thanks to policies you promote, nitwit?”

    Such as?

    “the rest of us didn’t have to deal with people like you, crime would just about vanish. We know how to make that happen.”

    Armchair warrior talk.

    “As for Umbrella Man, RTFT, and STFU.”

    Trigger much?

    • Troll: GLT
    • Replies: @anon
  128. anon[311] • Disclaimer says:
    @Henry's Cat

    Sightings of Umbrella Woman also reported.

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
  129. Thirdtwin says:
    @prime noticer

    I post links to Steve, but I always feel like I’m asking people to go see Randle McMurphy on visiting day.

  130. @J.Ross

    Who has ever seen a biker who looked like that?

    I agree with your point overall. I too find the “white supremacist biker” theory implausible. However, I have to admit that some Hells Angels I’ve seen in recent years do look a bit like that. They’re no longer the dirty, long-haired, bearded bikers I remember from the 1970s. They’re buff, wear clean clothes, are clean-shaven and often have shaved heads.

  131. @Anonymous

    As a point of information, the green lasers are more dangerous to your vision than red ones. There’s a lot of information about this on the web.

    Aug. 6, 2010 — Green laser pointers may emit high levels of invisible and potentially dangerous infrared light, a new study says.

    Researchers report that green laser pointers deliver light that is brighter to the eye than red lasers, but the infrared light emitted by some inexpensive models could damage the retina of the eye.

    Charles Clark, PhD, of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), led a research team measuring the output of several green laser pointers. The researchers bought three low-cost green laser pointers that had been advertised to have a power output of 10 milliwatts.

    Researchers say one of the units emitted dim green light, but delivered infrared levels of nearly 20 milliwatts.

    That’s enough to cause damage to the retina before a person is even aware of the invisible light.

    • Replies: @anon
  132. @BenKenobi

    “Mortars” are a type of professional quality firework.
    https://fireworks.com/products/aerial/reloadable-mortars

    • Thanks: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  133. anon[381] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist

    A little groggy there, @steve-o?

    Lol. What’s that “whoosh” waaaay over your head?

  134. anon[381] • Disclaimer says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    As a point of information, the green lasers are more dangerous to your vision than red ones. There’s a lot of information about this on the web.

    Thanks. There has been an ongoing problem with vandals on the ground illuminating aircraft with laser pointers, so there are eye protections for pilots. Some should work on the ground for anyone unfortunate enough to be caught around peaceful rioting vandals.

    https://www.laserpointersafety.com/laserglasses/laserglasses.html

  135. Jack D says:
    @Paul Jolliffe

    Oswald did not need any spotters. JFK was like a sitting duck in a slow moving open car. If you should ever happen to be in Dallas go see the assassination site. It’s all pretty much the same as it was on that day. For a trained marksman like Oswald (pretty much for anyone who can shoot a rifle) hitting a target that is less than 200 ft. away from a 6th floor vantage point is a piece of cake, even with his shitty $20 mail order war surplus Italian rifle (the Warren Commission was able to produce 3-5 in. groups at 100 yards with Oswald’s gun). The assassination site is not some vast open plain – it’s a very confined space on the edge of the downtown street grid. You could fit the whole assassination site in my back yard and I don’t have a very big back yard. The place looms large in our imagination but the reality is that it all took place on a tiny stage.

    Louie Steven Witt came forward in 1978 and claimed to be the “umbrella man”.[7] He claimed still to have the umbrella and did not know he had been the subject of controversy. He said that he brought the umbrella simply to heckle Kennedy, whose father, Joseph, had been a supporter of the Nazi-appeasing British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain. By waving a black umbrella, Chamberlain’s trademark fashion accessory, Witt said he was protesting the Kennedy family appeasing Adolf Hitler before World War II. An umbrella had been used in cartoons in the 1930s to symbolize such appeasement, and Chamberlain often carried an umbrella.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbrella_man_(JFK_assassination)

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Just another serf
  136. One of the really painful things about watching the Bill Barr hearings was listening to Zoe Loftgren and the other 80 year old feminists lament how “Mothers” were peacefully protesting at the riots and how ‘offended’ they felt that they had been gassed and deprived of their civil rights. A few days prior there were videos of “protesters” getting out of their black garb and into matching T-shirts with mommy written all over them as if that had fooled anyone. The total fertility among that cohort was .001.

    First of all, it is clear that there is a nexus between these highly coordinated riots and the Democrats and that this gassing of the mothers was a staged incident. No matter how clumsy, it served its purpose. The rhetoric is not believable but it was enough for someone like Loftgren to make another false accusation. Barr will be impeached before the Durham and Bash incitements are unsealed. It is also clear now why Judge Emit Sullivan won’t let Flynn go.

    It is clear feminism is now subject to cancel culture. In spite of invoking the golden uterus, it is clear nobody gave a shit. Even if the incident was real, which is wasn’t, nobody cares. Same with AOC being called a bitch by the Republican Congressman last week. That would have been like touching a third rail a year ago. BLM has sucked all the oxygen out of the Democratic tent.

  137. Jack D says:
    @Henry's Cat

    Police say Umbrella Man helped turn the largely peaceful protests violent.

    You really have to give the media Orwell points for the “largely peaceful protest” coinage. It’s a perfect way of squaring the “Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?” problem that the media has. In the footage, we see with our own eyes the broken windows, the burning buildings, the looting, but if fact there’s nothing to see here folks. The images are deceptive – the protest as a whole was “largely peaceful” so pay no attention to those pictures.

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    , @GLT
  138. Brutusale says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Proud boys from Toronto honoring their ICAO in the DFW:

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Reg Cæsar
  139. anon[397] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    Bussed in, riots, he’s there, I say
    A cop with an umbrella
    Far left, Black fist, Deep State, Fear grows
    A plant with an umbrella

    All that summer they destroyed it
    Burn and loot and kill
    That umbrella, a cop employed it
    Narrative realigned

    Every mornin’ I would see an FBI false flag
    One guy would play the role of White supremacist
    All the talking heads would try their smoke and mirror game
    Somewhere that Fed and his umbrella are whisked away

    That’s the way the Floyd thing started
    The ADL tells you
    Peaceful antifa gave way
    to a far right boogaloo

    Came the day the city smoldering
    Release the “far right” facade
    Nice to think that that umbrella
    Was an FBI asset

    Every mornin’ I would see an FBI false flag
    One guy would play the role of White supremacist
    All the talking heads would say “hey look at that White man”
    Somewhere that Fed and scheming jews are shaking hands

    Bussed in, riots, he’s there, I say
    A cop with an umbrella
    Mutants, negros, this looks real bad
    Bring in the umbrella

    All that summer leftist riots
    Burn and loot and kill
    That umbrella, we deployed it
    Agent provocateur
    ——

  140. @J.Ross

    This appears to be part of the same larger trend of pulling down statues, rewriting history, and not knowing how to do research: top ten lists are obnoxious and disgusting on their own, but on top of their innate awfulness, most media on media nowadays has no depth at all. It clearly came from Wiki or whatever old pieces are already well-known. David Byrne is famous and current (sorta recent collabs with Eno and St Vincent), who now remembers Mother’s Finest or James White or and so on, so Byrne it is.

    It’s funny. When I tell people what the first rock concert I attended was, I always refer to the headliner. However, Mother’s Finest opened and were therefore the first band I saw in concert. The question they asked the crowd: “Who says ni**ers can’t rock and roll?”

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  141. @Harry Baldwin

    Harry, the other night I had on CNN or MSNBC, yeah I know, but the host mentioned that the police said the “protestors were firing mortars at them, whatever that is supposed to mean” in a very submissive tone. How could firing Roman candle and sky mortars directly at some one not be assualt with a deadly weapon?

  142. anon[419] • Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus

    Murder, yes. Other crimes, no.

    Arson may not be a crime to you, but it’s still against the law. Normal people are opposed to burning down bookstores, for example, and arson in general. Especially against a building with people in it. There’s been a real increase in that crime in the last few months, but maybe you are paid not to Notice such things?

    • Thanks: GLT
    • Replies: @Hibernian
    , @Corvinus
  143. @Brutusale

    Proud boys from Toronto honoring their ICAO in the DFW:

    “DFW” and “MSP” would actually be pretty good shorthand for those metro areas. The oft-ignored “second cities” are compensated with two letters. (I think “Sea-Tac” is already used that way in Washington, but I’ll leave that to commenters living there.)

    Canadians looking for some feature which distinguishes their country from the rest of the Anglosphere and the world need only look at their airport codes. The major ones all begin with Y.

    Not all Ys are in Canada, but all of Canada’s are Y. I don’t know of any other major country following that practice.

    Toronto is particularly spacey in that there is no connection at all to the city’s name. The others like to use the second and third characters for that– YVR (Vancouver), YWG (Winnipeg), YQR (Regina), etc.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  144. @Steve Sailer

    “all that rugby puts hair on your chest,
    what chance have you got against a tie and a crest”

    https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12120190.police-investigate-gordonstoun-pupils-involved-in-street-brawl-after-calling-local-youths-peasants-peter-phillips-in-fight-group/

    Peter Phillips, son of the Princess Royal, was standing in the front row of a group of Gordonstoun pupils who shouted abuse at local youths before a brawl which left one man in hospital, it was claimed last night.

    Witnesses alleged the 18-year-old royal was one of about 20 pupils from the school who became involved in a fight in the nearby seaside town of Lossiemouth, Moray.

    Grampian Police yesterday afternoon confirmed it had launched an investigation into the alleged assault.

    It is understood officers will interview pupils at Gordonstoun as part of the inquiry.

    Unemployed George More, 20, underwent surgery at Dr Gray’s hospital, Elgin, for a badly broken jaw following the incident two weekends ago outside Lossiemouth’s Laverockbank Hotel.

    The Herald is a left wing paper, so it may not have been quite like that, but Scottish public schools do have some form.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/6944534.stm

    One of Scotland’s top private schools has condemned a video which showed ex-pupils staging a mock “chav hunt”.

    “Class Wars” was posted on the internet site YouTube by former students at Glenalmond College, near Perth.

    The film, which showed teenagers wearing shell suits being chased by classmates dressed as aristocrats, was partly filmed on the school grounds.

    Officials have described the spoof as “deeply offensive” and said it did not reflect the ethos at the school.

    The footage has now been removed from the website.

    • Replies: @GLT
  145. @Brutusale

    The date of Steve’s post, July 29, 2020, happens to be the 67th birthday of Geddy Lee. It is also the 67th birthday of Ken Burns, Tim Gunn, and Patti Scialfa Springsteen.

    They were born on the same day in 1953, in the cultural capitals of Toronto, Brooklyn, Washington, D.C., and Deal, N.J., respectively.

  146. J.Ross says:
    @ben tillman

    In fact when P-Funk started out, they were like a psychedlic garage sort of sound. There are a number of little black rock acts that never got famous in the 70s but which were thoroughly within prog or punk or protopunk stylistically.

  147. @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Apologies for the kinda-sorta tone of bitchiness in that last comment: I didn’t mean to be insulting or nasty;

    Well you did say your Indian name would have been, “Do Not EVER Insult Lightning-Mouth.”

  148. anon[303] • Disclaimer says:

    Wow, me so stupid. Finally got around to searching Nick Kristoff. His parents were both profs at Portland State. So he has to know whose who in the Rose City Antifa, he knows some of these anarchists personally. That makes his entire New Duranty Times op-ed article a steaming pile of disinformation.

    I mean, c’mon, this is like Al Sharpton asking “Who are these alleged black men beating up people in Brooklyn, starting fires in Crown Hights? Who? I can’t seem to find them!”

    Fake Opining. The green laser of truth burns a hole through Kristoff’s pink tissue of lies.

    • Thanks: Justvisiting
  149. HA says:
    @J.Ross

    “CDC: lockdown suicide, OD killing more than WuFlu.”

    Duh. Ideally, the lockdown would drive the WuFlu rates to zero, in which case, yeah, OD and suicide (and death by bee stings and food poisoning, for that matter) would have a death rate that is infinitely greater (proportionally). Why should anyone, whether they are pro- or anti-lockdown, be shocked by that?

    The question is how the increase in suicides/overdoses compares to the reduction in deaths from the lockdown. I rather doubt the CDC is claiming the lockdown is killing more lives than it is saving (given that they’re still claiming that the unmitigated death toll would be in the seven figures category).

    To put some numbers on all this, deaths from suicide in 2018 were roughly 50K, whereas drug overdoses killed about 70K. Assuming those went up by about 50% this year (a ballpark figure) , then yeah, the total death toll would be somewhat more than those that have died from COVID so far (and roughly equal to the increase in overall excess mortality), but not by much. And to the extent that the CDC is correct in assuming that a million or more people would die from this if nothing were done about it, all those extra dead grandmas and granddads would bump up suicide rates as well, so you have to correct for that too.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  150. Hibernian says:
    @anon

    Arson is very dangerous; it’s often fatal to building occupants and/or firemen.

  151. Hibernian says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Toronto is particularly spacey in that there is no connection at all to the city’s name.

    In Chicago Midway is MDW. ORD, the code for O’ Hare, is connected neither to the city name, nor the present, and long time, name of the airport. It stands for Orchard Place, a then exurban community which became the site of a Douglas Aircraft bomber plant at the beginning of WW2, which later became O’ Hare Airport.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  152. @Jack D

    Who was that guy who shot Oswald at point blank range? Wasn’t it Ruby or Rubinstein? I wonder what his motivation was? Then there was that guy who shot Robert Kennedy. A Palestinian. What an odd coincidence. Certainly would result in Americans looking unfavorably upon Palestinians. And then we had that fellow Abraham Zapruder who happened to film the entire JFK murder. Some believe he was there “to document the event”, in a fashion similar to those famous dancers from 9/11.

  153. @Hibernian

    Oh, we in the travel business knew them all. MCI- Kansas City, MCO, Orlando. IAD- Washington, IAH- Houston. GEG- Spokane, BDL, Hartford, and, of course, LGA and JFK in NYC. (EWR derives from letters in “Newark”.)

    Philadelphia to the Solomon Islands would be PHL-EGM. Somerset, Kentucky to Gemena, Congo, SME-GMA. Fukuoka t0 Montreal, FUK-YUL. Baitaidi, Nepal, to Emden, Germany, BIT-EME.

    Zagreb to Nutuve, Papua New Guinea, ZAG-NUT. Fort Riley to Toledo to Waycross, FRI-TOL-AYS. Jakar, Bhutan to Terceira, Portugal to Burbank to Nueva Gerona, Cuba, BUT-TER-BUR-GER.

    Shoot, now I’m hungry…

  154. @Jack D

    I was going to suggest UmbrellaMan be recast as the Pied Piper of Portland, before realising he was in Minneapolis.

  155. @J.Ross

    The thing about this antifa mob is that they are organisationally incompetent.

    They’re very similar to pretty much all activist groups: extremely vulnerable to infiltration by government lackies. Groups like that have “emotional signalling about The Cause” as dot-point 1 on their ‘due diligence’ checklist for newcomers.

    Groups I’m involved in, advise activists how to ferret out infiltrators[1]. Most of the time getting the point across (that the most ardent, pro-violence newcomer is the likely infiltrator), is like trying to explain Number Theory to a rusty engine block. (It’s not helped by the fact that I routinely advocate violence).

    Antifa itself will be absolutely infested with undercover law enforcement – and those undercover law enforcement will be prime movers in goading members to commit property destruction, and they will be active participants in the destruction itself. Broken windows policing… lol.

    That’s just a “known known” about all “black bloc“-style groups. As early as the 80s (in Germany, mostly) undercover infiltrators were exposed pretty routinely, at which point cases against co-defendants went away.

    The Provisional IRA was much the same.

    .

    [MORE]

    [1] The ‘big scalp’ that comes to mind was the exposure of infiltration of environmental groups by the UK government, including the rapist[2] Mark Kennedy): that task has now morphed into obtaining the names of all infiltrators (the first 6 included the rapist Mark Kennedy) and their superiors. If those names (and documents relevant to the actions of the infiltrators) can’t be obtained in court, they’ll be obtained by dint of the appalling level of data security at all levels of the UK government.

    [2] The rapist Mark Kennedy is a rapist: the CPS are desperate not to prosecute him (trying to pretend that the Linekar standard is relevant in his case, which it isn’t).

    There’s very settled law on when fraud vitiates consent – if person A consents to have sex with person B, and A’s consent proceeds from a material misrepresentation by B as to his identity, then consent is vitiated.

    In R v Clarence (1888) 22 QBD 23, Stephens J observed that

    “…the only sorts of fraud which so far destroy the effect of a woman’s consent as to convert a connection consented to in fact into a rape are frauds as to the nature of the act itself, or as to the identity of the person who does the act. Consent in such cases does not exist at all because the act consented to is not the act done.”

    Other salient facts…

    The rapist Mark Kennedy fathered at least one kid while undercover – despite being married with his own kids. So he’s a cunt for reasons other than being a rapist.

    CODA: the reason that the CPS does not want to prosecute the rapist Mark Kennedy is that there is a significant risk that if he is charged he will expose other illegal practices by the UK police.

    If he had an ounce of decency he would do that whether he was charged or not: he doesn’t have an ounce of decency, so he’s making the threat strategically.

    If the rapist Mark Kennedy is to be believed, he now understands that what he did for a living was fucked-up. This “Saul on the road to Damascus” moment in the life of the rapist Mark Kennedy, happened just after his overlords threw him to the wolves once he was exposed.

  156. GLT says:
    @Jack D

    The libs refuse even to see the violence on their side.

    And if you even hint about it you’re unpersonned.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
  157. GLT says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    ‘ the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible ‘

  158. @Anonymous

    I think we’re well past the point at which the lies are even intended to be plausible. The point is they are telling you exactly what you are allowed to say.

    Oh, you see it otherwise?

    Have a job? Making payments on a house? A wife and kids at home alone? Like to keep it that way?

    So yeah shut your filthy goyisch mouth and repeat your lines.

  159. @GLT

    Leftist violence is non-violent violence!

  160. Corvinus says:
    @anon

    “Arson may not be a crime to you, but it’s still against the law. Normal people are opposed to burning down bookstores, for example, and arson in general.”

    Thanks for the strawman.

    “There’s been a real increase in that crime in the last few months, but maybe you are paid not to Notice such things?”

    That’s iSteve.

    The fact is that crime in several areas has been declining.

    https://www.citymetric.com/fabric/how-pandemic-upended-crime-patterns-5136

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    , @Henry's Cat
  161. J.Ross says:
    @HA

    We have no moral responsibility for suicides which would have happened and total responsibility for reactions to the lockdown.

    • Replies: @HA
  162. Hibernian says:
    @Corvinus

    Thanks for the strawman.

    Tell that to the widows and children of firemen who have died fighting arson fires.

  163. HA says:
    @J.Ross

    “We have no moral responsibility for suicides which would have happened…”

    What kind of idiotic logic is that? You have no moral responsibility to strap a seat belt on your family because it only prevents a death that “would have happened”? Doctors have no responsibility to encourage the suicidal to seek treatment or set policies because it only prevents potential suicides?

    By your calculus, not only do we never mitigate pandemics, we also never build a levee or install a fire-prevention sprinkler system ever again. Because some people will inevitably die in their construction and installation, as happens with any construction or renovation project, and those deaths we must take responsibility for, whereas the lives that we hope to save are simply to be ignored because they only “would have happened”. Or something. And according to Prager (if your take on him is correct) the lower we make the death toll, then the more outraged we get to be. Yeah, sure — sounds like you got it all figured out.

    I realize that tallying a motorcycle death as a COVID fatality is dumb, but this is an order of magnitude more stupid than that.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  164. @anon

    Even worse, Dick Van Dyke in blackface.

  165. @Corvinus

    So the solution to the black crime problem is martial law.

  166. Corvinus says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    “The Stop Making Sense tour (1984) was probably emblematic of peak black-white relations in the US.”

    More like being inspired from across the pond…

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2008/apr/20/popandrock.race

    The appeal of Rock Against Racism for music fans was that it had recruited the biggest names in the emerging punk culture. By 1977 RAR could claim the support of most of the innovative bands of the time – Stiff Little Fingers, Sham 69, the Tom Robinson Band, Steel Pulse, Misty in Roots and the Clash. The Sex Pistols, although they were booked to play Wigan for RAR, never managed to make it on stage, but John Lydon was unequivocal in his opposition to the National Front, telling one interviewer: ‘I despise them. No one should have the right to tell anyone they can’t live here because of the colour of their skin or their religion… How could anyone vote for something so ridiculously inhumane?’

    With this spring board from America’s Heartland from the 1980’s that resonates today, if one NOTICES…

    And David Byrne remains tuned in.

    https://pitchfork.com/features/5-10-15-20/david-byrne-on-the-music-that-made-him/

    Byrne has dared to stay polarizing while maintaining his gift for bright pop hooks. American Utopia, his latest solo record, offers anxious, often surreal ruminations on gun violence, social consciousness, and personal relativism over deceptively brassy soca beats, peppy guitar, and chipper synths.

  167. J.Ross says:
    @HA

    >dumb
    You mispelled “dishonest.” It is dishonest to tally a motorcycle accident as a death caused by WuFlu. Just like it is dishonest to take away nearly everyone’s jobs, dignity, and right to travel, while your husband checks in on the cabin or the wharf, or you get a splendid isolation haircut.
    I was stupid to be cautious at the beginning of this. I doubted the cravenness and total immortality of the Democrats. Doctors are coming out of this covered in old vegetables.

  168. @Thirdtwin

    Also, Rand Paul, who didn’t dare try the recertification exam, and decided to create his own certification board. Well, not his own, the other members were his wife and his father-in-law.

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