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This is from Congressional Research Service:

A Guide to U.S. Military Casualty Statistics: Operation Inherent Resolve, Operation New Dawn, Operation Iraqi Freedom, and Operation Enduring Freedom

Hannah Fischer Information Research Specialist
November 20, 2014

Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) is the war in Afghanistan.

Note: By the way, the very low percentage for Hispanics has me worried that the military might be counting Hispanics different from the way most of the federal government counts Hispanics, rather like lots of police departments are out of sync with the now standard way which is to treat Hispanic ethnicity as overruling race. Maybe the military is only counting as Hispanic people who don’t put down a different race such as white or black?

So that 85% white figure might include some Hispanics who identify as racially white.

Also, men did 97.9% of the dying for the U.S. in Afghanistan.

In Iraq, whites made up 82.6% of the dead American soldiers:

As Ibram X. Kendi taught us, when there exist racial gaps, there is proof of racism.

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  1. That”s good to know, now let’s get the numbers for religion.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @A. Hipster
    @Farenheit

    they are like you would expect knowing the Ashkenazim IQ, but for instance Aleksandr Semyonovich Vindman did receive a Purple Heart.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    , @Trinity
    @Farenheit

    It would be interesting to know how many Jews have died in these Middle Eastern wars. Of that *85% of Whites, the bulk of that group came from poor or working class America, most are males from the South or Midwest. Here you have the most oppressed group of people in America going off and fighting wars for the most privileged group, the Jew. I do my best and tell every single young White person I meet to work 2-3 jobs if you have to, or apply for welfare just like the lazy Negro and other nonwhites. This nation has shit on Whites for a century and no White should die or shed their blood fighting to benefit Jews and other nonwhites.

    Replies: @Anon

  2. All for naught. Twenty years of U.S. effort was undone in a week by Taliban. I don’t think there is another parallel in world history of 1,000 fold “efficiency”. I think this will mark the end of “American Empire”. This is our Suez Crisis. You can sleep well that there won’t be another invade the world for long, long time.

    • Agree: ArthurinCali
    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @epebble


    I think this will mark the end of “American Empire”.
     
    I sure hope so. It seems like the Empire is still determined to make its own citizens miserable with its Covid hysterics, economy-distorting diktats, woke mysticism, and sheer incompetence. We need a complete collapse, not just a withdrawal from the hinterlands. From your lips to God's ears.

    Replies: @donut

    , @JMcG
    @epebble

    Definitely time to concentrate on Invite the World for another good stretch. Bastards.

    , @J.Ross
    @epebble

    There will be another invadetheworld as soon as they can print out the orders if nobody is punished.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Anonymous
    @epebble


    You can sleep well that there won’t be another invade the world for long, long time.
     
    One would like to think so, but consider the hundreds of billions of dollars US corporations made from the American presence in Afghanistan over the past two decades. How many politicians will that money go on to buy?

    I agree that human decency calls for this to be the last "nation building" exercise for the Americans. However, human greed practically guarantees it will not be.

    Some rackets are simply too high-paying ever to be given up (at least, not voluntarily).

    , @JimDandy
    @epebble

    I don't know. Israel doesn't like to fight its own wars, and the military industrial complex ain't gonna blow itself.

    , @Pat Kittle
    @epebble


    You can sleep well that there won’t be another invade the world for long, long time.
     
    Well we certainly agree with that except IRAN HAS WMD's!!

    Poor little Israel!!
    , @Coemgen
    @epebble

    Invade the world? I've been watching network news lately. It sounds more like they're building up to invade Florida.

  3. Yep! Disparate Impact! To compensate, we need to kill a whole lot more white guys. OK, I might have the details a bit sketchy, but you gotta admit my heart’s in the right place.

  4. As things stand now, they did not die for their country. They died for some military contractors to get rich, for some midwits in the Pentagon to play Nation Builder III, and for some not particularly bright tribal girls to go to school for a few years before they are enslaved.

    With any luck, these tens of thousands of veterans will have a major role in ending the current age. Then their compatriots will have died for their country.

    Don’t get me wrong, I sure they thought they were fighting for America, but does it really matter what the tool someone is using thinkss it’s doing?

    • Agree: ArthurinCali, Old Prude
    • Replies: @Blodgie
    @Rob

    The ones who were not particularly bright were the duped rubes who went and died.

    , @Anon
    @Rob


    As things stand now, they did not die for their country. They died for some military contractors to get rich, for some midwits in the Pentagon to play Nation Builder III, and for some not particularly bright tribal girls to go to school for a few years before they are enslaved.
     
    The reality is even worse. They died for the Jews’ colonial project in Palestine.
    , @3g4me
    @Rob

    @4 Rob: "As things stand now, they did not die for their country. They died for some military contractors to get rich, for some midwits in the Pentagon to play Nation Builder III, and for some not particularly bright tribal girls to go to school for a few years before they are enslaved."

    Well said. And foregone conclusion: Not our people; not our problem.

  5. Other groups that are significantly overrepresented include Indians living on reservations and Samoans. Japanese and Korean Americans are probably overrepresented. Maybe Puerto Ricans.

  6. Poll #1: Should whites enlist in the US military?

    #2: Should whites become officers in the US military?

    • Replies: @3g4me
    @anonymous

    @6 anonymous [176]: No self-respecting White should serve Numerica in any aspect, militarily or otherwise. Separate. Leave the others to their fate.

    , @David In TN
    @anonymous

    As I commented in a previous thread, the CRT indoctrination is among other things, designed to drive out white men and make the U.S. military majority nonwhite.

    , @Old Prude
    @anonymous

    Emphatically "Yes!" To both questions. You will get good training and familiarity with weaponry and tactics, supply, ordinance, communication, etc... You don't have to rah-rah. Just do your job, and if asked to do anything to support globohomo, just half-ass it with sugar in the gas tank.

    If the military is ever turned on bad-whites, what better place to be than somewhere you can throw sand in the gears. "Oh, I though you said grid 69-53-20, not 69-63-20. Oops". "Sorry, transmission garbled..."

    So much easier to cause havoc as an insider.

  7. a) This is God’s revenge for slavery
    b) whites (lowercase) deserve it, ……….
    c) whites are too stupid to avoid combat death
    /irony off
    Whites are probably too honest, take fighting seriously, do not take cowardly shortcuts.
    May I assume that they also might volunteer more and are, o horror, the vast majority of special forces
    But Obama and successors will fix that, the next “Seal Team Five” will be all black transsexual Lesbians.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @TruthRevolution.net


    But Obama and successors will fix that, the next “Seal Team Five” will be all black transsexual Lesbians.
     
    And instead of "Seal Team Five", it will be "Soul Team Five."
  8. @epebble
    All for naught. Twenty years of U.S. effort was undone in a week by Taliban. I don't think there is another parallel in world history of 1,000 fold "efficiency". I think this will mark the end of "American Empire". This is our Suez Crisis. You can sleep well that there won't be another invade the world for long, long time.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @JMcG, @J.Ross, @Anonymous, @JimDandy, @Pat Kittle, @Coemgen

    I think this will mark the end of “American Empire”.

    I sure hope so. It seems like the Empire is still determined to make its own citizens miserable with its Covid hysterics, economy-distorting diktats, woke mysticism, and sheer incompetence. We need a complete collapse, not just a withdrawal from the hinterlands. From your lips to God’s ears.

    • Agree: Old Prude
    • Replies: @donut
    @Intelligent Dasein

    We're the only ones who can't/won't fight back .

  9. “In Flanders field….”

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @R.G. Camara

    And for what? Greco-Turkish hustler types.

    The Merchant of Death: Basil Zaharoff

    Replies: @Bill B.

  10. “Whites dying for their country”. That’s sad and ironic, because it isn’t even their country anymore, it’s been hijacked. People need to wake up and stop putting themselves at risk for the benefit of the feminized, DIE-ized, queerified rulers.

    • Agree: By-tor
    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @Mike_from_SGV

    You certainly couldn't say Whites were dying for their nation.

    White parents need to explain to their sons where their actual loyalty lies.

    Replies: @Goddard, @SunBakedSuburb

    , @Colin Wright
    @Mike_from_SGV

    “Whites dying for their country”. That’s sad and ironic, because it isn’t even their country anymore, it’s been hijacked. People need to wake up and stop putting themselves at risk for the benefit of the feminized, DIE-ized, queerified rulers...'

    Au contraire. We need to take back the country.

  11. Watch the first 12 seconds of the video below. Just utterly remarkable. He literally kisses the ground of Israel.

    https://twitter.com/pdabrosca/status/1344449971744071681

    He has been given a high-paying Wall Street job. The type of job that typically requires an Ivy League MBA.

    • Thanks: Trinity
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It's been some time. People who now post memes weren't even born.

    Nov 28, 2001: ISRAEL AND 9/11: Feds holding 60 Israelis in connection with 9/11 – Why?


    Haven't we had enough of Israel? When Prime Minister Ariel Sharon visits Bush at the White House, he plans to "raise the issue of Jonathan Pollard," [dead link] according to Middle East Newsline. Pollard, you'll remember, is the Israeli spy whose betrayal of American secrets led to the deaths of untold numbers of American agents in the field. Many contend that the Israelis traded the stolen information to the Soviet Union in return for increasing the emigration of Russian Jews to Israel. In "The Case Against Jonathan Pollard," Seymour M. Hersh relates a conversation [livelink with an article originally from the New Yorker, Jan 18, 1999] between the late William J. Casey, then CIA director, and one of his station chiefs, a month after Pollard's arrest. When his subordinate asked why the CIA chief was ordering stepped-up monitoring of an Israeli delegation on a routine visit,

    "'He asked if I knew anything about the Pollard case,' the station chief recalled, and he said that Casey had added, 'For your information, the Israelis used Pollard to obtain our attack plan against the USSR, all of it. The coordinates, the firing locations, the sequences. And for guess who? The Soviets.' Casey had then explained that the Israelis had traded the Pollard data for Soviet émigrés. 'How's that for cheating?' he had asked."
     

    Replies: @JMcG

    , @kaganovitch
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Watch the first 12 seconds of the video below. Just utterly remarkable. He literally kisses the ground of Israel.

    This is not remarkable, it is a venerable tradition among religious Jews, alluded to in the Talmud and codified by Maimonides 'Laws of Kings' Chap. 5:10.

  12. @Mike_from_SGV
    "Whites dying for their country". That's sad and ironic, because it isn't even their country anymore, it's been hijacked. People need to wake up and stop putting themselves at risk for the benefit of the feminized, DIE-ized, queerified rulers.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Colin Wright

    You certainly couldn’t say Whites were dying for their nation.

    White parents need to explain to their sons where their actual loyalty lies.

    • Replies: @Goddard
    @RichardTaylor


    White parents need to explain to their sons where their actual loyalty lies.
     
    I sure will.
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @RichardTaylor

    "You certainly couldn't say Whites were dying for their nation."

    That's correct. The acceleration of totalitarianism has been depressing: the mandates for a leaky vaccine with incomplete evidence of sterilization; tin-pot tyrant politicians taking policy instruction from compromised government doctors and scientists; and the push from the same DC technocrats who are really just operatives of the great reset cabal to install "health infrastructure" which will plant mini CDCs and NIHs along with Federal police in every state to monitor compliance to edicts and monitor interstate travel. All of this whilst gynandromorph Obama and his scuzzy celebrity friends celebrate a belated Lammas to coincide with the day his mom popped him out to be received by his CIA groomers. This is not a country and culture worth dying for.

  13. I’m sure this will be a lead story at ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, and NPR.

  14. Eric Kripke, showrunner for AMAZON’s THE BOYS, wants people to know that “White supremacy” and “toxic masculinity” are really bad:

    The madness of the show is the spoonful of sugar. It’s also the thing that can be noisy and gets asses in the seats. The crazy, gonzo moments are just what’s on the front of the cereal box. What we’re really interested in is late-stage capitalism and white supremacy cloaked in social media and systemic racism.

    Love adding in the “late-stage capitalism” bit. That tells you that Kripke is a DEEP THINKER…

    Ennis and Robertson made this comic in reaction to the Bush era and it’s also an Obama-era comic. But the show feels so Trump era to those of us watching at home. Also how can you not, when Season 2 premieres in September 2020, right after a summer of racial reckoning, feel like you really picked the right time to do the Stormfront season?

    Yep, the Summer of Racial Reckoning, when Trump’s evil White Supremacist regime was toppled….

    The white supremacy thing, I mean, that character Stormfront, was in his books. It was about how corporations and capitalism will allow white supremacy into its ranks as long as it’s profitable. And all we did was say, well, what does white supremacy look like these days, versus 10 years ago? And it doesn’t take long to land at social media. It’s a very ugly, old idea, packaged in this, new bouncy way. None of it’s new. Things like systemic racism and white supremacy have been around since the country’s founding.

    How far back would we have to go to actually view White supremacist mass media? And I mean the real deal, Stepin Fetchitt type stuff? 50 years? 60? Hollywood’s been pushing the anti-White line for a long time….

    Season 3 delves a lot more into the history of how we got here through this character of Soldier Boy. We were able to dig into both the history of the country and also really look at toxic masculinity, and masculine roles, and what a sh[**]-show that’s overall caused. This whole fu[*****], independent Marlboro man thing.

    Clearly, people need to be more dependent….

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/08/awards-insider-eric-kripke-the-boys-interview?+utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=twitter&+utm_brand=vf

    • Thanks: Polistra
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @syonredux

    TRACKING WITH CLOSEUPS

    It's really like reading Stand on Zanzibar

    A weird world that we can't comprehend full of individuals doing bizarre stuff and emitting bizarre phrases - pretending to be on top as they are actually completely lost.

    Because while you are still processing what's happened yesterday, the world has changed to give you today, hard and fast.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Gabe Ruth

    , @Redneck farmer
    @syonredux

    These are the kind of people Steve wrote about in "Carved Upon The Landscape".

  15. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/philipgiraldi/status/1344280552837439492

    Watch the first 12 seconds of the video below. Just utterly remarkable. He literally kisses the ground of Israel.

    https://twitter.com/pdabrosca/status/1344449971744071681

    He has been given a high-paying Wall Street job. The type of job that typically requires an Ivy League MBA.

    https://twitter.com/Pandemic_Times/status/667875720496967680

    Replies: @El Dato, @kaganovitch

    It’s been some time. People who now post memes weren’t even born.

    Nov 28, 2001: ISRAEL AND 9/11: Feds holding 60 Israelis in connection with 9/11 – Why?

    Haven’t we had enough of Israel? When Prime Minister Ariel Sharon visits Bush at the White House, he plans to “raise the issue of Jonathan Pollard,” [dead link] according to Middle East Newsline. Pollard, you’ll remember, is the Israeli spy whose betrayal of American secrets led to the deaths of untold numbers of American agents in the field. Many contend that the Israelis traded the stolen information to the Soviet Union in return for increasing the emigration of Russian Jews to Israel. In “The Case Against Jonathan Pollard,” Seymour M. Hersh relates a conversation [livelink with an article originally from the New Yorker, Jan 18, 1999] between the late William J. Casey, then CIA director, and one of his station chiefs, a month after Pollard’s arrest. When his subordinate asked why the CIA chief was ordering stepped-up monitoring of an Israeli delegation on a routine visit,

    “‘He asked if I knew anything about the Pollard case,’ the station chief recalled, and he said that Casey had added, ‘For your information, the Israelis used Pollard to obtain our attack plan against the USSR, all of it. The coordinates, the firing locations, the sequences. And for guess who? The Soviets.’ Casey had then explained that the Israelis had traded the Pollard data for Soviet émigrés. ‘How’s that for cheating?’ he had asked.”

    • Agree: Polistra
    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @JMcG
    @El Dato

    Jack D? Paging Jack D.

    Replies: @Jack D

  16. Lord have mercy.

    • Disagree: El Dato
  17. Most who frequent Mr. Sailer’s blog already know what I’m about to say.

    The insidious aspect of the post 9/11 Era in the USA was the techniques and shadow games used by the ruling class to promote and encourage the American carnage.

    To push all of the buttons for Heritage Americans to actually believe that if we didn’t fight them over there, they would end up taking over small towns in Texas, the Carolinas, Kansas. That our lives were worth protecting and continuing the facade that this conflict, this war they declared was truly worth dying for.

    Instead it was another way to cut down the numbers of us who have followed our ancestors into another pointless endeavor.

    Many learn and understand the words of Smedley Butler too late. To paraphrase,
    “I didn’t fight for freedom and democracy. I fought for the United Fruit Company. Wars are fought for bankers and tyrants benefit.”

    My children will not be fed into the grinder so a stock goes up 2 points or a politician gets his beak wet.

    After 10 generations of military service the charade of serving a country that hates me and mine stops now.

    • Agree: Lurker
    • Thanks: Greta Handel
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @ArthurinCali


    After 10 generations of military service the charade of serving a country that hates me and mine stops now.
     
    There are hardly any other good jobs besides the military.
    , @AndrewR
    @ArthurinCali

    Besides the muh safety, muh freedoms and muh patriotism reasons that normies support ZOG wars, never underestimate the pure bloodlust. I'll never forget being in boot camp and hearing a drill sergeant describe the purpose of the military as "killing people and blowing shit up." He didn't just mean that we should be capable of doing that. He meant that is the reason the military exists. Many people seem to think that the US military would be worthless if it weren't actively killing people and blowing shit up at any given time. The "whom" and "why" are irrelevant to such folks. All that matters to them is that they're allowed to kill and destroy.

    Replies: @ArthurinCali

    , @Blodgie
    @ArthurinCali

    Thank God you finally get it.

    You’re 60 years late but better than never.

    , @Bill
    @ArthurinCali


    To push all of the buttons for Heritage Americans to actually believe that if we didn’t fight them over there, they would end up taking over small towns in Texas, the Carolinas, Kansas.
     
    Well, they've got Lewiston, ME so far.
    , @Lurker
    @ArthurinCali


    if we didn’t fight them over there, they would end up taking over small towns in Texas, the Carolinas, Kansas
     
    And of course various different theys are busy taking over small towns all over anyway.
    , @Gabe Ruth
    @ArthurinCali

    I turned 18 a few months after 9/11. I’ll always feel a little guilty that I did not sign up then, because given my understanding of the world at the time, it was my duty.

    But I also thank God that I didn’t for a great variety of reasons, not least because of what I now know I would have been fighting for.

  18. Blacks — 8.1

    Whites — 85.5

    While they were shouting it the numbers were proving it: Black Lives Matter to the USA, whites lives don’t; time for a new land. Suggestions?

    • Replies: @Goddard
    @Franz


    [T]ime for a new land. Suggestions?
     
    Yes. America. I shudder to think of the carnage to come after whites reawaken and begin to reclaim.
    , @1John
    @Franz

    Ref. “time for a new land.” We already have our “land” our homeland, stupidly we are giving it away. We have betrayed our ancestors & are betraying our children. We have to reclaim our homeland or else our future will resemble South Africa.

  19. @epebble
    All for naught. Twenty years of U.S. effort was undone in a week by Taliban. I don't think there is another parallel in world history of 1,000 fold "efficiency". I think this will mark the end of "American Empire". This is our Suez Crisis. You can sleep well that there won't be another invade the world for long, long time.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @JMcG, @J.Ross, @Anonymous, @JimDandy, @Pat Kittle, @Coemgen

    Definitely time to concentrate on Invite the World for another good stretch. Bastards.

  20. @ArthurinCali
    Most who frequent Mr. Sailer's blog already know what I'm about to say.

    The insidious aspect of the post 9/11 Era in the USA was the techniques and shadow games used by the ruling class to promote and encourage the American carnage.

    To push all of the buttons for Heritage Americans to actually believe that if we didn't fight them over there, they would end up taking over small towns in Texas, the Carolinas, Kansas. That our lives were worth protecting and continuing the facade that this conflict, this war they declared was truly worth dying for.

    Instead it was another way to cut down the numbers of us who have followed our ancestors into another pointless endeavor.

    Many learn and understand the words of Smedley Butler too late. To paraphrase,
    "I didn't fight for freedom and democracy. I fought for the United Fruit Company. Wars are fought for bankers and tyrants benefit."

    My children will not be fed into the grinder so a stock goes up 2 points or a politician gets his beak wet.

    After 10 generations of military service the charade of serving a country that hates me and mine stops now.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @Blodgie, @Bill, @Lurker, @Gabe Ruth

    After 10 generations of military service the charade of serving a country that hates me and mine stops now.

    There are hardly any other good jobs besides the military.

  21. @syonredux
    Eric Kripke, showrunner for AMAZON's THE BOYS, wants people to know that "White supremacy" and "toxic masculinity" are really bad:

    The madness of the show is the spoonful of sugar. It’s also the thing that can be noisy and gets asses in the seats. The crazy, gonzo moments are just what’s on the front of the cereal box. What we’re really interested in is late-stage capitalism and white supremacy cloaked in social media and systemic racism.
     
    Love adding in the "late-stage capitalism" bit. That tells you that Kripke is a DEEP THINKER...

    Ennis and Robertson made this comic in reaction to the Bush era and it’s also an Obama-era comic. But the show feels so Trump era to those of us watching at home. Also how can you not, when Season 2 premieres in September 2020, right after a summer of racial reckoning, feel like you really picked the right time to do the Stormfront season?
     
    Yep, the Summer of Racial Reckoning, when Trump's evil White Supremacist regime was toppled....

    The white supremacy thing, I mean, that character Stormfront, was in his books. It was about how corporations and capitalism will allow white supremacy into its ranks as long as it’s profitable. And all we did was say, well, what does white supremacy look like these days, versus 10 years ago? And it doesn’t take long to land at social media. It’s a very ugly, old idea, packaged in this, new bouncy way. None of it’s new. Things like systemic racism and white supremacy have been around since the country’s founding.
     
    How far back would we have to go to actually view White supremacist mass media? And I mean the real deal, Stepin Fetchitt type stuff? 50 years? 60? Hollywood's been pushing the anti-White line for a long time....

    Season 3 delves a lot more into the history of how we got here through this character of Soldier Boy. We were able to dig into both the history of the country and also really look at toxic masculinity, and masculine roles, and what a sh[**]-show that’s overall caused. This whole fu[*****], independent Marlboro man thing.
     
    Clearly, people need to be more dependent....

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/08/awards-insider-eric-kripke-the-boys-interview?+utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=twitter&+utm_brand=vf

    Replies: @El Dato, @Redneck farmer

    TRACKING WITH CLOSEUPS

    It’s really like reading Stand on Zanzibar

    A weird world that we can’t comprehend full of individuals doing bizarre stuff and emitting bizarre phrases – pretending to be on top as they are actually completely lost.

    Because while you are still processing what’s happened yesterday, the world has changed to give you today, hard and fast.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @El Dato

    "pretending to be on top when they are actually completely lost"

    Which is more dangerous: incompetent sociopathic narcissists with power or the competent ones? We are dealing with both.

    , @Gabe Ruth
    @El Dato

    Should be on the list with 1984 and Brave New World, really ahead of it’s time.

  22. @R.G. Camara
    "In Flanders field...."

    Replies: @El Dato

    And for what? Greco-Turkish hustler types.

    The Merchant of Death: Basil Zaharoff

    • Replies: @Bill B.
    @El Dato

    Thanks.

    I assume that Zaharoff was the model for Mr Baldwin the omni-competent "mystery financier" in Waugh's Scoop.

  23. @Intelligent Dasein
    @epebble


    I think this will mark the end of “American Empire”.
     
    I sure hope so. It seems like the Empire is still determined to make its own citizens miserable with its Covid hysterics, economy-distorting diktats, woke mysticism, and sheer incompetence. We need a complete collapse, not just a withdrawal from the hinterlands. From your lips to God's ears.

    Replies: @donut

    We’re the only ones who can’t/won’t fight back .

  24. Isn’t this a clear case of Darwinism in action? Whites are slower to catch onto fin d’empire corruption and zeitgeist, and get themselves into harm’s way, while believing something (spreading democracy, exceptional country, whatever). The world was never kind to well-meaning idiots, and nothing has changed.

    • Agree: Clyde
  25. @syonredux
    Eric Kripke, showrunner for AMAZON's THE BOYS, wants people to know that "White supremacy" and "toxic masculinity" are really bad:

    The madness of the show is the spoonful of sugar. It’s also the thing that can be noisy and gets asses in the seats. The crazy, gonzo moments are just what’s on the front of the cereal box. What we’re really interested in is late-stage capitalism and white supremacy cloaked in social media and systemic racism.
     
    Love adding in the "late-stage capitalism" bit. That tells you that Kripke is a DEEP THINKER...

    Ennis and Robertson made this comic in reaction to the Bush era and it’s also an Obama-era comic. But the show feels so Trump era to those of us watching at home. Also how can you not, when Season 2 premieres in September 2020, right after a summer of racial reckoning, feel like you really picked the right time to do the Stormfront season?
     
    Yep, the Summer of Racial Reckoning, when Trump's evil White Supremacist regime was toppled....

    The white supremacy thing, I mean, that character Stormfront, was in his books. It was about how corporations and capitalism will allow white supremacy into its ranks as long as it’s profitable. And all we did was say, well, what does white supremacy look like these days, versus 10 years ago? And it doesn’t take long to land at social media. It’s a very ugly, old idea, packaged in this, new bouncy way. None of it’s new. Things like systemic racism and white supremacy have been around since the country’s founding.
     
    How far back would we have to go to actually view White supremacist mass media? And I mean the real deal, Stepin Fetchitt type stuff? 50 years? 60? Hollywood's been pushing the anti-White line for a long time....

    Season 3 delves a lot more into the history of how we got here through this character of Soldier Boy. We were able to dig into both the history of the country and also really look at toxic masculinity, and masculine roles, and what a sh[**]-show that’s overall caused. This whole fu[*****], independent Marlboro man thing.
     
    Clearly, people need to be more dependent....

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/08/awards-insider-eric-kripke-the-boys-interview?+utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=twitter&+utm_brand=vf

    Replies: @El Dato, @Redneck farmer

    These are the kind of people Steve wrote about in “Carved Upon The Landscape”.

  26. @Farenheit
    That"s good to know, now let's get the numbers for religion.

    Replies: @A. Hipster, @Trinity

    they are like you would expect knowing the Ashkenazim IQ, but for instance Aleksandr Semyonovich Vindman did receive a Purple Heart.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @A. Hipster

    'they are like you would expect knowing the Ashkenazim IQ, but for instance Aleksandr Semyonovich Vindman did receive a Purple Heart.'

    I'm not too disturbed that your definition of 'smart' means that your side winds up with less military training.

  27. BBC’s Jon Sopel regretting the decision to leave Afghanistan, and saving me from checking his name by quoting Hillel the Elder.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-58195336

    I’m sure as I am writing this more families will be packing up their possessions fearful of what Taliban control will mean, perhaps heading to Calais and then the UK.

    And a lot more Jon Sopels will be saying “let them in!”.

    Twenty years on and so many lives lost, and so many billions of dollars spent, what was it for? What’s been achieved? What do you say to the families of all those servicemen killed by the Taliban now that the US is giving up? What’s to stop terror groups from re-establishing their jihad training camps? At the UN Security Council hearing last Friday it was reported that up to 20 different terror groups, involving thousands of foreign fighters were already fighting with Taliban forces.

    Twenty years on and so many lives lost, and so many billions of dollars spent, we must do more! More!

    And so it was that 9/11 led to this country’s longest military encounter. The attack on the Twin Towers, the plane that flew into the Pentagon, and the one that crashed into a field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, were initially the spur for a surge of US nationalism. Young people – in fact people of all ages – were going along to armed forces recruitment offices wanting to sign up. America had come under attack; these patriots wanted to fight to defend the country the “land of the free”, and seek revenge on those who would do the US harm.

    And don’t mistake this for some kind of kneejerk jingoism. It wasn’t that. I knew many people – not just Americans – who were of a liberal bent and had been no great fans of all the doings of the US of A but who have a visceral sense this was a moment where you had to pick your team.

    Were you on the side of the rule of law, free and fair elections, due process, sexual equality, universal education? Or were you on the side of those who would fly planes into buildings, or would stone people to death, or throw homosexuals off of buildings, or deny girls schooling?

    Young Americans signed up to defend gay rights and female education!

    This is retconning. Actually I recall a lot of the professional gay rights and female education fans, certainly in the UK, thought America “had it coming”. Mary Beard, favourite BBC historian, Cambridge University.

    “The horror of the tragedy was enormously intensified by the ringside seats we were offered through telephone answering machines and text-messages. But when the shock had faded, more hard-headed reaction set in. This wasn’t just the feeling that, however tactfully you dress it up, the United States had it coming. That is, of course, what many people openly or privately think.”

    https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v23/n19/nine-eleven-writers/11-september

  28. @RichardTaylor
    @Mike_from_SGV

    You certainly couldn't say Whites were dying for their nation.

    White parents need to explain to their sons where their actual loyalty lies.

    Replies: @Goddard, @SunBakedSuburb

    White parents need to explain to their sons where their actual loyalty lies.

    I sure will.

  29. @Franz
    Blacks --- 8.1

    Whites --- 85.5

    While they were shouting it the numbers were proving it: Black Lives Matter to the USA, whites lives don't; time for a new land. Suggestions?

    Replies: @Goddard, @1John

    [T]ime for a new land. Suggestions?

    Yes. America. I shudder to think of the carnage to come after whites reawaken and begin to reclaim.

  30. Foolish cucks.

    How stupid do you have to be to sign your life away to leaders that hate you?

    Wake up Tradcons!

  31. @epebble
    All for naught. Twenty years of U.S. effort was undone in a week by Taliban. I don't think there is another parallel in world history of 1,000 fold "efficiency". I think this will mark the end of "American Empire". This is our Suez Crisis. You can sleep well that there won't be another invade the world for long, long time.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @JMcG, @J.Ross, @Anonymous, @JimDandy, @Pat Kittle, @Coemgen

    There will be another invadetheworld as soon as they can print out the orders if nobody is punished.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @J.Ross

    follow-up to this: Bill Kristol is tweeting that it's not too late to salvage Afghanistan.

    Replies: @nebulafox

  32. @ArthurinCali
    Most who frequent Mr. Sailer's blog already know what I'm about to say.

    The insidious aspect of the post 9/11 Era in the USA was the techniques and shadow games used by the ruling class to promote and encourage the American carnage.

    To push all of the buttons for Heritage Americans to actually believe that if we didn't fight them over there, they would end up taking over small towns in Texas, the Carolinas, Kansas. That our lives were worth protecting and continuing the facade that this conflict, this war they declared was truly worth dying for.

    Instead it was another way to cut down the numbers of us who have followed our ancestors into another pointless endeavor.

    Many learn and understand the words of Smedley Butler too late. To paraphrase,
    "I didn't fight for freedom and democracy. I fought for the United Fruit Company. Wars are fought for bankers and tyrants benefit."

    My children will not be fed into the grinder so a stock goes up 2 points or a politician gets his beak wet.

    After 10 generations of military service the charade of serving a country that hates me and mine stops now.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @Blodgie, @Bill, @Lurker, @Gabe Ruth

    Besides the muh safety, muh freedoms and muh patriotism reasons that normies support ZOG wars, never underestimate the pure bloodlust. I’ll never forget being in boot camp and hearing a drill sergeant describe the purpose of the military as “killing people and blowing shit up.” He didn’t just mean that we should be capable of doing that. He meant that is the reason the military exists. Many people seem to think that the US military would be worthless if it weren’t actively killing people and blowing shit up at any given time. The “whom” and “why” are irrelevant to such folks. All that matters to them is that they’re allowed to kill and destroy.

    • Agree: S. Anonyia
    • Replies: @ArthurinCali
    @AndrewR

    Yes, the same chant of "Warheads on foreheads."

    Asking what is to gain by bombing a village with a drone operated from 10,000 miles away only draws blank stares.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

  33. @El Dato
    @JohnnyWalker123

    It's been some time. People who now post memes weren't even born.

    Nov 28, 2001: ISRAEL AND 9/11: Feds holding 60 Israelis in connection with 9/11 – Why?


    Haven't we had enough of Israel? When Prime Minister Ariel Sharon visits Bush at the White House, he plans to "raise the issue of Jonathan Pollard," [dead link] according to Middle East Newsline. Pollard, you'll remember, is the Israeli spy whose betrayal of American secrets led to the deaths of untold numbers of American agents in the field. Many contend that the Israelis traded the stolen information to the Soviet Union in return for increasing the emigration of Russian Jews to Israel. In "The Case Against Jonathan Pollard," Seymour M. Hersh relates a conversation [livelink with an article originally from the New Yorker, Jan 18, 1999] between the late William J. Casey, then CIA director, and one of his station chiefs, a month after Pollard's arrest. When his subordinate asked why the CIA chief was ordering stepped-up monitoring of an Israeli delegation on a routine visit,

    "'He asked if I knew anything about the Pollard case,' the station chief recalled, and he said that Casey had added, 'For your information, the Israelis used Pollard to obtain our attack plan against the USSR, all of it. The coordinates, the firing locations, the sequences. And for guess who? The Soviets.' Casey had then explained that the Israelis had traded the Pollard data for Soviet émigrés. 'How's that for cheating?' he had asked."
     

    Replies: @JMcG

    Jack D? Paging Jack D.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @JMcG

    Pollard (and the USS Liberty) is like Emmett Till for anti-Semites. I'll see your Jonathan Pollard and raise you an Aldrich Ames.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Alfa158, @Johann Ricke, @nebulafox, @res

  34. @Rob
    As things stand now, they did not die for their country. They died for some military contractors to get rich, for some midwits in the Pentagon to play Nation Builder III, and for some not particularly bright tribal girls to go to school for a few years before they are enslaved.

    With any luck, these tens of thousands of veterans will have a major role in ending the current age. Then their compatriots will have died for their country.

    Don’t get me wrong, I sure they thought they were fighting for America, but does it really matter what the tool someone is using thinkss it’s doing?

    Replies: @Blodgie, @Anon, @3g4me

    The ones who were not particularly bright were the duped rubes who went and died.

  35. @ArthurinCali
    Most who frequent Mr. Sailer's blog already know what I'm about to say.

    The insidious aspect of the post 9/11 Era in the USA was the techniques and shadow games used by the ruling class to promote and encourage the American carnage.

    To push all of the buttons for Heritage Americans to actually believe that if we didn't fight them over there, they would end up taking over small towns in Texas, the Carolinas, Kansas. That our lives were worth protecting and continuing the facade that this conflict, this war they declared was truly worth dying for.

    Instead it was another way to cut down the numbers of us who have followed our ancestors into another pointless endeavor.

    Many learn and understand the words of Smedley Butler too late. To paraphrase,
    "I didn't fight for freedom and democracy. I fought for the United Fruit Company. Wars are fought for bankers and tyrants benefit."

    My children will not be fed into the grinder so a stock goes up 2 points or a politician gets his beak wet.

    After 10 generations of military service the charade of serving a country that hates me and mine stops now.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @Blodgie, @Bill, @Lurker, @Gabe Ruth

    Thank God you finally get it.

    You’re 60 years late but better than never.

  36. Whites Made Up 85% of US Soldiers Who Died in Afghanistan

    What percentage of military age Americans are White?

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Anon

    You can make a pretty good estimate.
    Overall Whites are slightly over 60% of the population, but skew heavily older. We know White births have been less than 50% of all births for several years, so the percentage of military age Americans who are White will fall somewhere between there, maybe just above 50%.
    Whites, are far more likely to sign up for front line combat specialties since many think they are fighting for their country and are temperamentally more inclined to look for adventure. Hence the 85%.

  37. Anon[422] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rob
    As things stand now, they did not die for their country. They died for some military contractors to get rich, for some midwits in the Pentagon to play Nation Builder III, and for some not particularly bright tribal girls to go to school for a few years before they are enslaved.

    With any luck, these tens of thousands of veterans will have a major role in ending the current age. Then their compatriots will have died for their country.

    Don’t get me wrong, I sure they thought they were fighting for America, but does it really matter what the tool someone is using thinkss it’s doing?

    Replies: @Blodgie, @Anon, @3g4me

    As things stand now, they did not die for their country. They died for some military contractors to get rich, for some midwits in the Pentagon to play Nation Builder III, and for some not particularly bright tribal girls to go to school for a few years before they are enslaved.

    The reality is even worse. They died for the Jews’ colonial project in Palestine.

  38. @Mike_from_SGV
    "Whites dying for their country". That's sad and ironic, because it isn't even their country anymore, it's been hijacked. People need to wake up and stop putting themselves at risk for the benefit of the feminized, DIE-ized, queerified rulers.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Colin Wright

    “Whites dying for their country”. That’s sad and ironic, because it isn’t even their country anymore, it’s been hijacked. People need to wake up and stop putting themselves at risk for the benefit of the feminized, DIE-ized, queerified rulers…’

    Au contraire. We need to take back the country.

  39. @TruthRevolution.net
    a) This is God's revenge for slavery
    b) whites (lowercase) deserve it, ..........
    c) whites are too stupid to avoid combat death
    /irony off
    Whites are probably too honest, take fighting seriously, do not take cowardly shortcuts.
    May I assume that they also might volunteer more and are, o horror, the vast majority of special forces
    But Obama and successors will fix that, the next "Seal Team Five" will be all black transsexual Lesbians.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    But Obama and successors will fix that, the next “Seal Team Five” will be all black transsexual Lesbians.

    And instead of “Seal Team Five”, it will be “Soul Team Five.”

  40. @El Dato
    @R.G. Camara

    And for what? Greco-Turkish hustler types.

    The Merchant of Death: Basil Zaharoff

    Replies: @Bill B.

    Thanks.

    I assume that Zaharoff was the model for Mr Baldwin the omni-competent “mystery financier” in Waugh’s Scoop.

  41. The lyrics were written, in part, in honor of U.S. Army Specialist 5 James Gabriel, Jr., a Special Forces operator and the first native Hawaiian to die in Vietnam, who was killed by Viet Cong gunfire while on a training mission with the South Vietnamese Army on April 8, 1962.[4] One verse mentioned Gabriel by name, but it was not used in the recorded version.[5]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ballad_of_the_Green_Berets

  42. @ArthurinCali
    Most who frequent Mr. Sailer's blog already know what I'm about to say.

    The insidious aspect of the post 9/11 Era in the USA was the techniques and shadow games used by the ruling class to promote and encourage the American carnage.

    To push all of the buttons for Heritage Americans to actually believe that if we didn't fight them over there, they would end up taking over small towns in Texas, the Carolinas, Kansas. That our lives were worth protecting and continuing the facade that this conflict, this war they declared was truly worth dying for.

    Instead it was another way to cut down the numbers of us who have followed our ancestors into another pointless endeavor.

    Many learn and understand the words of Smedley Butler too late. To paraphrase,
    "I didn't fight for freedom and democracy. I fought for the United Fruit Company. Wars are fought for bankers and tyrants benefit."

    My children will not be fed into the grinder so a stock goes up 2 points or a politician gets his beak wet.

    After 10 generations of military service the charade of serving a country that hates me and mine stops now.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @Blodgie, @Bill, @Lurker, @Gabe Ruth

    To push all of the buttons for Heritage Americans to actually believe that if we didn’t fight them over there, they would end up taking over small towns in Texas, the Carolinas, Kansas.

    Well, they’ve got Lewiston, ME so far.

  43. @Farenheit
    That"s good to know, now let's get the numbers for religion.

    Replies: @A. Hipster, @Trinity

    It would be interesting to know how many Jews have died in these Middle Eastern wars. Of that *85% of Whites, the bulk of that group came from poor or working class America, most are males from the South or Midwest. Here you have the most oppressed group of people in America going off and fighting wars for the most privileged group, the Jew. I do my best and tell every single young White person I meet to work 2-3 jobs if you have to, or apply for welfare just like the lazy Negro and other nonwhites. This nation has shit on Whites for a century and no White should die or shed their blood fighting to benefit Jews and other nonwhites.

    • Agree: Richard B
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Trinity

    That's a common misconception on Unz.com.

    US military servicemen are, on average, from upper middle class backgrounds, and generally come from New England and the PNW (especially special forces operators). The professionalization of the US military since the 1980s has weeded out working class types. And no, males from the south or midwest are not the majority of unlisted men (fitness standards, and also intelligence standards for southerners, tend to eliminate them more often than northeastern and western men).

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Trinity, @Reg Cæsar, @S. Anonyia, @Colin Wright, @Kratoklastes, @William Badwhite

  44. Whites Made Up 85% of US Soldiers Who Died in Afghanistan

    Dying for an elite that hates you….

    • Agree: By-tor
  45. @RichardTaylor
    @Mike_from_SGV

    You certainly couldn't say Whites were dying for their nation.

    White parents need to explain to their sons where their actual loyalty lies.

    Replies: @Goddard, @SunBakedSuburb

    “You certainly couldn’t say Whites were dying for their nation.”

    That’s correct. The acceleration of totalitarianism has been depressing: the mandates for a leaky vaccine with incomplete evidence of sterilization; tin-pot tyrant politicians taking policy instruction from compromised government doctors and scientists; and the push from the same DC technocrats who are really just operatives of the great reset cabal to install “health infrastructure” which will plant mini CDCs and NIHs along with Federal police in every state to monitor compliance to edicts and monitor interstate travel. All of this whilst gynandromorph Obama and his scuzzy celebrity friends celebrate a belated Lammas to coincide with the day his mom popped him out to be received by his CIA groomers. This is not a country and culture worth dying for.

  46. These posts have missed the background agenda: our enemies & traitors have succeeded yet again in exterminating more of European Peoples aka White People. The agenda is our extermination.

  47. @Rob
    As things stand now, they did not die for their country. They died for some military contractors to get rich, for some midwits in the Pentagon to play Nation Builder III, and for some not particularly bright tribal girls to go to school for a few years before they are enslaved.

    With any luck, these tens of thousands of veterans will have a major role in ending the current age. Then their compatriots will have died for their country.

    Don’t get me wrong, I sure they thought they were fighting for America, but does it really matter what the tool someone is using thinkss it’s doing?

    Replies: @Blodgie, @Anon, @3g4me

    @4 Rob: “As things stand now, they did not die for their country. They died for some military contractors to get rich, for some midwits in the Pentagon to play Nation Builder III, and for some not particularly bright tribal girls to go to school for a few years before they are enslaved.”

    Well said. And foregone conclusion: Not our people; not our problem.

  48. @anonymous
    Poll #1: Should whites enlist in the US military?

    #2: Should whites become officers in the US military?

    Replies: @3g4me, @David In TN, @Old Prude

    @6 anonymous [176]: No self-respecting White should serve Numerica in any aspect, militarily or otherwise. Separate. Leave the others to their fate.

  49. @El Dato
    @syonredux

    TRACKING WITH CLOSEUPS

    It's really like reading Stand on Zanzibar

    A weird world that we can't comprehend full of individuals doing bizarre stuff and emitting bizarre phrases - pretending to be on top as they are actually completely lost.

    Because while you are still processing what's happened yesterday, the world has changed to give you today, hard and fast.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Gabe Ruth

    “pretending to be on top when they are actually completely lost”

    Which is more dangerous: incompetent sociopathic narcissists with power or the competent ones? We are dealing with both.

  50. @Franz
    Blacks --- 8.1

    Whites --- 85.5

    While they were shouting it the numbers were proving it: Black Lives Matter to the USA, whites lives don't; time for a new land. Suggestions?

    Replies: @Goddard, @1John

    Ref. “time for a new land.” We already have our “land” our homeland, stupidly we are giving it away. We have betrayed our ancestors & are betraying our children. We have to reclaim our homeland or else our future will resemble South Africa.

  51. “But that’s why you read me.”

    I come here to complain and ridicule sacred idols. It keeps me off Twitter.

  52. Anon[636] • Disclaimer says:
    @Trinity
    @Farenheit

    It would be interesting to know how many Jews have died in these Middle Eastern wars. Of that *85% of Whites, the bulk of that group came from poor or working class America, most are males from the South or Midwest. Here you have the most oppressed group of people in America going off and fighting wars for the most privileged group, the Jew. I do my best and tell every single young White person I meet to work 2-3 jobs if you have to, or apply for welfare just like the lazy Negro and other nonwhites. This nation has shit on Whites for a century and no White should die or shed their blood fighting to benefit Jews and other nonwhites.

    Replies: @Anon

    That’s a common misconception on Unz.com.

    US military servicemen are, on average, from upper middle class backgrounds, and generally come from New England and the PNW (especially special forces operators). The professionalization of the US military since the 1980s has weeded out working class types. And no, males from the south or midwest are not the majority of unlisted men (fitness standards, and also intelligence standards for southerners, tend to eliminate them more often than northeastern and western men).

    • Disagree: James Braxton
    • LOL: Trinity, S. Anonyia
    • Troll: Richard B
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Anon

    Yeah those carpetbaggers have really thinned out the Southern gene pool. Got any links for this hot take?

    , @Trinity
    @Anon

    I take it you NEVER served in the military.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    And no, males from the south or midwest are not the majority of unlisted men
     
    More traditional terms for this are guerilla and paramilitary. Or spy. Nathan Hale and John André were hanged for being "unlisted".

    You may write smartly, but that error and your lack of a source are bound to make us wonder if it's a cloak.


    https://i.pinimg.com/474x/11/9d/01/119d01e5c4ed3fb07a08fdcc42817a03--carl-sagan-amazing-quotes.jpg
    , @S. Anonyia
    @Anon

    What kind of fantasy is this? Soldiers are not upper middle class. Even officer types only seem middle class, whereas the rank and file are solidly lower middle class and working class.

    There were at least 20 lower middle class white, Hispanic, and black guys (+ 2 girls) from my high school class who signed up for the army or navy right after graduation (late 2000s). This was a middle class suburban school, too, recruit numbers are way higher from more rural, inland, and poorer parts of the South.

    Most signed up out of boredom, lack of direction, or desire for solid lifetime benefits (can’t blame em). Plus a few psychos with bloodlust. The tests aren’t especially hard to pass and fitness standards aren’t that stringent, either, considering they’ve been watered down over the years. Also, most recruits sign up in their late teens or early 20s, when it should only take a few weeks to months to get in shape.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    , @Colin Wright
    @Anon

    'US military servicemen are, on average, from upper middle class backgrounds, and generally come from New England and the PNW (especially special forces operators). ..'

    This is almost perfect tripe. It becomes perfect tripe if we restrict the sample to the combat arms.

    , @Kratoklastes
    @Anon

    This type of post is usually a deliberate misdirection: either that or it's based on ignorance of the data.

    The key part of this misdirection is that it fails to distinguish between service branches: Navy and Air Force have always had better recruiting demographics than Army (or Marines), just as enlisted men tilt more 'working class' than the officer caste.

    More than half of the US 'military' is made up of Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard, so that gives the overall 'military enlisted' data a slightly more 'middle class' tilt as a result.

    Look solely at Army and Marines - and narrow it down further to combat roles, and the working class tilt becomes obvious. The bullet-catchers are white and Hispanic.

    There is also a tilt against enlistment for people from households in the top income quintile - roughly $87k in total pre-tax household income - which I would not consider anywhere near enough to furnish a 'middle class' family lifestyle... and yet the middle income quintile is $20k lower ($53k-$66k). This is the great lie of US social discourse: that class is meaningfully linked to income. Elsewhere in the West, class and income are (properly) unrelated - and 'middle class' is more about social affectations (consumption of classical music, literature and so forth) and is thought of as a bottom-half-of-the-top-income-quintile thing..

    Demographically, one important predictor of enlistment is a father who enlisted - a lot of 'military families' are multigenerational. (And if your Dad is a 20-year Army enlisted man, your household is going to get to the 'middle class' total household income quintile really quite easily).


    In raw numbers, the state with the greatest number of enlistees is CA - but there's plenty of white trash in California so it's hardly dispositive of the 'middle class military' trope. After that it's Texas, North Carolina, Georgia, and Florida (and New York).

    In proportionate terms (relative to state populations), the top 5 include Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, Virginia (and also Hawai'i and Alaska).

    So no: the people who will turn their weapons on the US populace when ordered to, are not middle-income Californian children of relatively-affluent households (the latter might be 'piloting' the drones, though). When it comes, the triggers will be being pulled by white Southerners from the bottom 40% of the income distribution. The majority of them will do precisely as ordered.

    SOURCE: https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/demographics-us-military

    Replies: @Anon

    , @William Badwhite
    @Anon

    What is an "unlisted man"? Try harder, troll.

  53. We have an ALL VOLUNTEER ARMY.

    It would also be interesting to know how many were careerists who served more than one tour due to reenlisting for pay and perks. Not Vietnam and the draft in this situation.

  54. At least there’s one guy in the whole Godforsaken government who understands what his job is. Guess that’s why Clyburn picked him.

    Heckuva job Cheneys!

    • Agree: Triteleia Laxa
    • Replies: @epebble
    @Desiderius

    Good. When can we expect the new enlightenment to bring home our military from Korea, Japan, Germany, U.K., Italy .......?

    , @Mike_from_SGV
    @Desiderius

    No stupid platitudes, just a straight rational answer by Biden. Pleasantly surprising.

    Replies: @Anon

  55. @Anon
    @Trinity

    That's a common misconception on Unz.com.

    US military servicemen are, on average, from upper middle class backgrounds, and generally come from New England and the PNW (especially special forces operators). The professionalization of the US military since the 1980s has weeded out working class types. And no, males from the south or midwest are not the majority of unlisted men (fitness standards, and also intelligence standards for southerners, tend to eliminate them more often than northeastern and western men).

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Trinity, @Reg Cæsar, @S. Anonyia, @Colin Wright, @Kratoklastes, @William Badwhite

    Yeah those carpetbaggers have really thinned out the Southern gene pool. Got any links for this hot take?

  56. F

    • LOL: Old Prude
  57. @JMcG
    @El Dato

    Jack D? Paging Jack D.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Pollard (and the USS Liberty) is like Emmett Till for anti-Semites. I’ll see your Jonathan Pollard and raise you an Aldrich Ames.

    • Troll: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @JMcG
    @Jack D

    Jack, as I’ve said before, I’m not an anti-Semite. I don’t think very highly of the state of Israel. Besides, I thought the USS Liberty was the Emmitt Till of anti-Semites.

    , @Alfa158
    @Jack D

    I'm sorry, I must have missed the news that Aldrich Ames has been released from prison, allowed to visit Russia to receive a hero's welcome, and will now be moving on to a lucrative job on Wall Street.
    I guess the Lamestream Media has buried this breaking news story.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    I’ll see your Jonathan Pollard and raise you an Aldrich Ames.
     
    You left out Robert Hanssen.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen

    Then there was Larry Chin, who might have single-handedly prolonged the Korean War and cost the lives of a significant number of GI's by feeding useful information to the Chinese:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Wu-tai_Chin

    Korean War

    Chin served as a Chinese translator in the U.S. Army during the Korean War, helping to debrief Chinese and North Korean prisoners of war. He misrepresented the intelligence that he was translating from captured Chinese soldiers resulting in the loss of U.S. forces and missed tactical opportunities. Many of these Chinese soldiers intended to defect to South Korea. He also provided the Chinese government with the names of captured Chinese soldiers who were revealing information or declared themselves opposed to Communist Party rule and intended to defect. The Chinese then specifically requested these soldiers by name to be released back to China before the armistice negotiations could take place. This delayed the negotiations process for over a year.[4]

    Penetrating the CIA

    Following his U.S. Army service, Chin applied to and was accepted by the CIA. He was assigned as a Chinese language translator and analyst of the Chinese Communist press at the Foreign Broadcast Information Service (FBIS), where he continued his espionage for China. He was posted in Okinawa (1952–61), Santa Rosa, California (1961–71) and Rosslyn, Virginia (1971–81).[4] According to No Kum-Sok, the North Korean pilot who defected with a MiG-15, Larry Chin was one of his CIA handlers after his defection.[6]

    As an FBI analyst and one of the CIA's few fluent Chinese linguists, Chin was able to pass along such information as Intelligence Information Reports (IIRs) on China and East Asia, biographical profiles and assessments of fellow CIA employees, and the names and identities of the Agency's covert agents. He was also in a position to provide information about recruited deep-cover agents in China. Due to the CIA's policy of internal compartmentalization, Chin did not know their real names or identities; however, based on the intelligence they provided, he could infer such things as their locations, employers, and levels of access. Chinese counterintelligence could then attempt to identify them by determining who had access to what information. Once the agents were identified, they would routinely be arrested and executed, or, alternatively, fed false information to be communicated to the CIA.[4] Most significantly, in 1970 Chin provided to the Maoist leadership in Beijing CIA documents that revealed the plans of President Richard Nixon to engage China in order to form a tactical alliance against (and put pressure on) the Soviet Union. Mao, knowing in advance of American designs and objectives, could squeeze maximum concessions from the Nixon administration.[4]
     
    Combine all that Pollard and Bloch did, and you get a tiny fraction of the damage caused by Ames, Hanssen or Chin individually.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @JMcG

    , @nebulafox
    @Jack D

    The difference being that Till was a kid who was tortured to death by racist psychopaths, and Pollard was a convicted traitor who was not only released rather than spending the rest of his life in jail, but walked off the plane to applause from his paymasters.

    Replies: @By-tor, @Johann Ricke

    , @res
    @Jack D


    I’ll see your Jonathan Pollard and raise you an Aldrich Ames.
     
    That's a good comparison. Thanks.

    Ames - Currently serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole.

    Pollard - Currently free and living an honored life in his country--Israel.

    Surprised you would serve up such weak sauce, Jack. Usually you are better than that. But I guess this one was just beyond even your ability to sugarcoat.

    Replies: @Kratoklastes

  58. @AndrewR
    @ArthurinCali

    Besides the muh safety, muh freedoms and muh patriotism reasons that normies support ZOG wars, never underestimate the pure bloodlust. I'll never forget being in boot camp and hearing a drill sergeant describe the purpose of the military as "killing people and blowing shit up." He didn't just mean that we should be capable of doing that. He meant that is the reason the military exists. Many people seem to think that the US military would be worthless if it weren't actively killing people and blowing shit up at any given time. The "whom" and "why" are irrelevant to such folks. All that matters to them is that they're allowed to kill and destroy.

    Replies: @ArthurinCali

    Yes, the same chant of “Warheads on foreheads.”

    Asking what is to gain by bombing a village with a drone operated from 10,000 miles away only draws blank stares.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @ArthurinCali


    Asking what is to gain by bombing a village with a drone operated from 10,000 miles away only draws blank stares.
     
    https://www.chicagotribune.com/resizer/FPNK7cNR7U4Ag5_LnELoKABx0Tc=/415x233/top/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tronc/SCDRU4ADLNANVA77N4QPJGMKJM
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @ArthurinCali


    Asking what is to gain by bombing a village with a drone operated from 10,000 miles away only draws blank stares.
     
    https://cdn.commonwealthclub.org/s3fs-public/styles/hero/public/2020-02/Dewey-hero.png?itok=BKzOAJvh
  59. @Jack D
    @JMcG

    Pollard (and the USS Liberty) is like Emmett Till for anti-Semites. I'll see your Jonathan Pollard and raise you an Aldrich Ames.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Alfa158, @Johann Ricke, @nebulafox, @res

    Jack, as I’ve said before, I’m not an anti-Semite. I don’t think very highly of the state of Israel. Besides, I thought the USS Liberty was the Emmitt Till of anti-Semites.

  60. @Anon
    @Trinity

    That's a common misconception on Unz.com.

    US military servicemen are, on average, from upper middle class backgrounds, and generally come from New England and the PNW (especially special forces operators). The professionalization of the US military since the 1980s has weeded out working class types. And no, males from the south or midwest are not the majority of unlisted men (fitness standards, and also intelligence standards for southerners, tend to eliminate them more often than northeastern and western men).

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Trinity, @Reg Cæsar, @S. Anonyia, @Colin Wright, @Kratoklastes, @William Badwhite

    I take it you NEVER served in the military.

  61. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/ScottMGreer/status/1426532750258065417?s=20

    At least there’s one guy in the whole Godforsaken government who understands what his job is. Guess that’s why Clyburn picked him.

    Heckuva job Cheneys!

    Replies: @epebble, @Mike_from_SGV

    Good. When can we expect the new enlightenment to bring home our military from Korea, Japan, Germany, U.K., Italy …….?

  62. They only count the dead IN Afghanistan.
    What about the WALKING DEAD — Brain injuries, amputations, PTSD.
    They deny the valor of the Troops to protect their asses from outrage of the People.
    Even as they LOSE due to MISleadership once again.

  63. @anonymous
    Poll #1: Should whites enlist in the US military?

    #2: Should whites become officers in the US military?

    Replies: @3g4me, @David In TN, @Old Prude

    As I commented in a previous thread, the CRT indoctrination is among other things, designed to drive out white men and make the U.S. military majority nonwhite.

  64. Anonymous[111] • Disclaimer says:
    @epebble
    All for naught. Twenty years of U.S. effort was undone in a week by Taliban. I don't think there is another parallel in world history of 1,000 fold "efficiency". I think this will mark the end of "American Empire". This is our Suez Crisis. You can sleep well that there won't be another invade the world for long, long time.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @JMcG, @J.Ross, @Anonymous, @JimDandy, @Pat Kittle, @Coemgen

    You can sleep well that there won’t be another invade the world for long, long time.

    One would like to think so, but consider the hundreds of billions of dollars US corporations made from the American presence in Afghanistan over the past two decades. How many politicians will that money go on to buy?

    I agree that human decency calls for this to be the last “nation building” exercise for the Americans. However, human greed practically guarantees it will not be.

    Some rackets are simply too high-paying ever to be given up (at least, not voluntarily).

  65. Also, men did 97.9% of the dying for the U.S. in Afghanistan.

    While looking up members of the Whitney family on the Vietnam casualty index, I noticed that the number of men with that name equalled the number of women altogether. And it’s not that common:

    Whitney is the 783rd most popular last name (surname) in the United States; frequency is 0.015%; percentile is 40.448

    http://placesnamed.com/w/h/whitney.asp

    (Sailer is 17,580th.)

  66. @Anon

    Whites Made Up 85% of US Soldiers Who Died in Afghanistan
     
    What percentage of military age Americans are White?

    Replies: @Alfa158

    You can make a pretty good estimate.
    Overall Whites are slightly over 60% of the population, but skew heavily older. We know White births have been less than 50% of all births for several years, so the percentage of military age Americans who are White will fall somewhere between there, maybe just above 50%.
    Whites, are far more likely to sign up for front line combat specialties since many think they are fighting for their country and are temperamentally more inclined to look for adventure. Hence the 85%.

  67. @J.Ross
    @epebble

    There will be another invadetheworld as soon as they can print out the orders if nobody is punished.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    follow-up to this: Bill Kristol is tweeting that it’s not too late to salvage Afghanistan.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @J.Ross

    Remember, kids: if Bill Kristol says it, the other thing is usually a smart idea.

  68. @Jack D
    @JMcG

    Pollard (and the USS Liberty) is like Emmett Till for anti-Semites. I'll see your Jonathan Pollard and raise you an Aldrich Ames.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Alfa158, @Johann Ricke, @nebulafox, @res

    I’m sorry, I must have missed the news that Aldrich Ames has been released from prison, allowed to visit Russia to receive a hero’s welcome, and will now be moving on to a lucrative job on Wall Street.
    I guess the Lamestream Media has buried this breaking news story.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Alfa158

    Pollard received the maximum sentence then permitted by law and served every day of it and when it was over they had to let him go. I'm sure you would have enjoyed it if he fried like the Rosenbergs but it wasn't allowed by law.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Giant Duck

  69. @Anon
    @Trinity

    That's a common misconception on Unz.com.

    US military servicemen are, on average, from upper middle class backgrounds, and generally come from New England and the PNW (especially special forces operators). The professionalization of the US military since the 1980s has weeded out working class types. And no, males from the south or midwest are not the majority of unlisted men (fitness standards, and also intelligence standards for southerners, tend to eliminate them more often than northeastern and western men).

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Trinity, @Reg Cæsar, @S. Anonyia, @Colin Wright, @Kratoklastes, @William Badwhite

    And no, males from the south or midwest are not the majority of unlisted men

    More traditional terms for this are guerilla and paramilitary. Or spy. Nathan Hale and John André were hanged for being “unlisted”.

    You may write smartly, but that error and your lack of a source are bound to make us wonder if it’s a cloak.

  70. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/ScottMGreer/status/1426532750258065417?s=20

    At least there’s one guy in the whole Godforsaken government who understands what his job is. Guess that’s why Clyburn picked him.

    Heckuva job Cheneys!

    Replies: @epebble, @Mike_from_SGV

    No stupid platitudes, just a straight rational answer by Biden. Pleasantly surprising.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Mike_from_SGV


    No stupid platitudes, just a straight rational answer by Biden. Pleasantly surprising.
     
    Not really. Biden lost the moral high ground. It’s never a good look to brag that you don’t care about the welfare of others. But it is especially bad to make such proclamations in this circumstance, where the United States has intervened in the lives and sovereignty of those others and has had a big hand in the situation being what it is.
  71. @Alfa158
    @Jack D

    I'm sorry, I must have missed the news that Aldrich Ames has been released from prison, allowed to visit Russia to receive a hero's welcome, and will now be moving on to a lucrative job on Wall Street.
    I guess the Lamestream Media has buried this breaking news story.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Pollard received the maximum sentence then permitted by law and served every day of it and when it was over they had to let him go. I’m sure you would have enjoyed it if he fried like the Rosenbergs but it wasn’t allowed by law.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Jack D

    They could have extended his parole until 2030, but instead Big Daddy Adelson flew him on his private jet to Israel, where Bibi embraced him and he was given the same pension that Mossad and Shin Bet agents receive. If I was given the opportunity to give Pollard the Rosenberg treatment, I wouldn't have pulled the switch. But I would have supported giving him some version of what our greatest ally gave to Vanunu:

    *he shall not leave Israel
    *he shall not speak to any foreigner unless granted approval to do so by Shin Bet
    *he shall not come within 550 yards (500 m) of a border crossing or airport
    *he shall not come within 100 yards (90 m) of a foreign embassy
    *his phone and Internet use shall be subject to monitoring
    *he shall notify authorities of any change in his place of residence, and whom he intends to meet

    , @Giant Duck
    @Jack D


    Pollard received the maximum sentence then permitted by law and served every day of it and when it was over they had to let him go.
     
    Wrong. Releasing Pollard was a discretionary decision by the United States Parole Commission, based on an assessment of his prison record and his likelihood of reoffending. You can agree or disagree with their decision, but they certainly did not "have to" do anything. A denial of his parole by the Commission would have resulted in Pollard serving 15 more years, because "the maximum sentence then permitted by law," as you put it, was life, understood as 45 years in prison, not the 30 years Pollard served.
  72. @Jack D
    @JMcG

    Pollard (and the USS Liberty) is like Emmett Till for anti-Semites. I'll see your Jonathan Pollard and raise you an Aldrich Ames.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Alfa158, @Johann Ricke, @nebulafox, @res

    I’ll see your Jonathan Pollard and raise you an Aldrich Ames.

    You left out Robert Hanssen.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen

    Then there was Larry Chin, who might have single-handedly prolonged the Korean War and cost the lives of a significant number of GI’s by feeding useful information to the Chinese:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Wu-tai_Chin

    Korean War

    Chin served as a Chinese translator in the U.S. Army during the Korean War, helping to debrief Chinese and North Korean prisoners of war. He misrepresented the intelligence that he was translating from captured Chinese soldiers resulting in the loss of U.S. forces and missed tactical opportunities. Many of these Chinese soldiers intended to defect to South Korea. He also provided the Chinese government with the names of captured Chinese soldiers who were revealing information or declared themselves opposed to Communist Party rule and intended to defect. The Chinese then specifically requested these soldiers by name to be released back to China before the armistice negotiations could take place. This delayed the negotiations process for over a year.[4]

    Penetrating the CIA

    Following his U.S. Army service, Chin applied to and was accepted by the CIA. He was assigned as a Chinese language translator and analyst of the Chinese Communist press at the Foreign Broadcast Information Service (FBIS), where he continued his espionage for China. He was posted in Okinawa (1952–61), Santa Rosa, California (1961–71) and Rosslyn, Virginia (1971–81).[4] According to No Kum-Sok, the North Korean pilot who defected with a MiG-15, Larry Chin was one of his CIA handlers after his defection.[6]

    As an FBI analyst and one of the CIA’s few fluent Chinese linguists, Chin was able to pass along such information as Intelligence Information Reports (IIRs) on China and East Asia, biographical profiles and assessments of fellow CIA employees, and the names and identities of the Agency’s covert agents. He was also in a position to provide information about recruited deep-cover agents in China. Due to the CIA’s policy of internal compartmentalization, Chin did not know their real names or identities; however, based on the intelligence they provided, he could infer such things as their locations, employers, and levels of access. Chinese counterintelligence could then attempt to identify them by determining who had access to what information. Once the agents were identified, they would routinely be arrested and executed, or, alternatively, fed false information to be communicated to the CIA.[4] Most significantly, in 1970 Chin provided to the Maoist leadership in Beijing CIA documents that revealed the plans of President Richard Nixon to engage China in order to form a tactical alliance against (and put pressure on) the Soviet Union. Mao, knowing in advance of American designs and objectives, could squeeze maximum concessions from the Nixon administration.[4]

    Combine all that Pollard and Bloch did, and you get a tiny fraction of the damage caused by Ames, Hanssen or Chin individually.

    • Troll: Colin Wright
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Johann Ricke


    You left out Robert Hanssen.
     
    The FBI is all Hanssens now.


    COINTELPRO? Today we have COINTELAM.
    , @JMcG
    @Johann Ricke

    Hanssen is still in prison and will hopefully die there. According to your link, Chin killed himself with a garbage bag in his cell. Aldrich Ames is still in prison. Let’s talk about The Rosenbergs, David Greenglass, Harry Gold, Ted Hall. Let’s talk about Zaman Shapiro, the head of NUMEC, who stole, from the US, the fissionable material that Israel would use to build its first nukes.
    Pollard, by contrast, is walking around as a free man, with every desire he’ll ever have met by a grateful nation. If there’s any justice in the world, he’ll burn to death surrounded by Palestinians who decline to piss on him.

  73. @ArthurinCali
    @AndrewR

    Yes, the same chant of "Warheads on foreheads."

    Asking what is to gain by bombing a village with a drone operated from 10,000 miles away only draws blank stares.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

    Asking what is to gain by bombing a village with a drone operated from 10,000 miles away only draws blank stares.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/resizer/FPNK7cNR7U4Ag5_LnELoKABx0Tc=/415×233/top/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tronc/SCDRU4ADLNANVA77N4QPJGMKJM

  74. There is no draft they volunteered and re-volunteered in many cases which explains why so many have multiple tours of in Afghanistan and Iraq. This was not like Vietnam in which people with no desire to fight were drafted and sent into combat with our dead as high as 350 a week during 1968 and 58000 total in just 7 years. Afghanistan was I believe 3000 total dead over 20 years. More cops get killed in 20 years in Americas streets.

    Considering that a person would literally have to be a true moron to buy the lie “we have to fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them here” one can only deduce that these whites are either crazy or stupid for signing up to begin with. I will concede a young person looking for an opportunity to better their station in life is commendable but sadly it may just cost him or her their life which of course would be unfortunate.

    With a volunteer army we’re going to end up with considerable amounts of people that can’t find jobs because they’re not to smart or that they’re psychotic killers that watched too many Rambo movies.

  75. @ArthurinCali
    @AndrewR

    Yes, the same chant of "Warheads on foreheads."

    Asking what is to gain by bombing a village with a drone operated from 10,000 miles away only draws blank stares.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Reg Cæsar

    Asking what is to gain by bombing a village with a drone operated from 10,000 miles away only draws blank stares.

  76. Anon[295] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike_from_SGV
    @Desiderius

    No stupid platitudes, just a straight rational answer by Biden. Pleasantly surprising.

    Replies: @Anon

    No stupid platitudes, just a straight rational answer by Biden. Pleasantly surprising.

    Not really. Biden lost the moral high ground. It’s never a good look to brag that you don’t care about the welfare of others. But it is especially bad to make such proclamations in this circumstance, where the United States has intervened in the lives and sovereignty of those others and has had a big hand in the situation being what it is.

  77. @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    I’ll see your Jonathan Pollard and raise you an Aldrich Ames.
     
    You left out Robert Hanssen.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen

    Then there was Larry Chin, who might have single-handedly prolonged the Korean War and cost the lives of a significant number of GI's by feeding useful information to the Chinese:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Wu-tai_Chin

    Korean War

    Chin served as a Chinese translator in the U.S. Army during the Korean War, helping to debrief Chinese and North Korean prisoners of war. He misrepresented the intelligence that he was translating from captured Chinese soldiers resulting in the loss of U.S. forces and missed tactical opportunities. Many of these Chinese soldiers intended to defect to South Korea. He also provided the Chinese government with the names of captured Chinese soldiers who were revealing information or declared themselves opposed to Communist Party rule and intended to defect. The Chinese then specifically requested these soldiers by name to be released back to China before the armistice negotiations could take place. This delayed the negotiations process for over a year.[4]

    Penetrating the CIA

    Following his U.S. Army service, Chin applied to and was accepted by the CIA. He was assigned as a Chinese language translator and analyst of the Chinese Communist press at the Foreign Broadcast Information Service (FBIS), where he continued his espionage for China. He was posted in Okinawa (1952–61), Santa Rosa, California (1961–71) and Rosslyn, Virginia (1971–81).[4] According to No Kum-Sok, the North Korean pilot who defected with a MiG-15, Larry Chin was one of his CIA handlers after his defection.[6]

    As an FBI analyst and one of the CIA's few fluent Chinese linguists, Chin was able to pass along such information as Intelligence Information Reports (IIRs) on China and East Asia, biographical profiles and assessments of fellow CIA employees, and the names and identities of the Agency's covert agents. He was also in a position to provide information about recruited deep-cover agents in China. Due to the CIA's policy of internal compartmentalization, Chin did not know their real names or identities; however, based on the intelligence they provided, he could infer such things as their locations, employers, and levels of access. Chinese counterintelligence could then attempt to identify them by determining who had access to what information. Once the agents were identified, they would routinely be arrested and executed, or, alternatively, fed false information to be communicated to the CIA.[4] Most significantly, in 1970 Chin provided to the Maoist leadership in Beijing CIA documents that revealed the plans of President Richard Nixon to engage China in order to form a tactical alliance against (and put pressure on) the Soviet Union. Mao, knowing in advance of American designs and objectives, could squeeze maximum concessions from the Nixon administration.[4]
     
    Combine all that Pollard and Bloch did, and you get a tiny fraction of the damage caused by Ames, Hanssen or Chin individually.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @JMcG

    You left out Robert Hanssen.

    The FBI is all Hanssens now.

    COINTELPRO? Today we have COINTELAM.

  78. @Johann Ricke
    @Jack D


    I’ll see your Jonathan Pollard and raise you an Aldrich Ames.
     
    You left out Robert Hanssen.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen

    Then there was Larry Chin, who might have single-handedly prolonged the Korean War and cost the lives of a significant number of GI's by feeding useful information to the Chinese:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Wu-tai_Chin

    Korean War

    Chin served as a Chinese translator in the U.S. Army during the Korean War, helping to debrief Chinese and North Korean prisoners of war. He misrepresented the intelligence that he was translating from captured Chinese soldiers resulting in the loss of U.S. forces and missed tactical opportunities. Many of these Chinese soldiers intended to defect to South Korea. He also provided the Chinese government with the names of captured Chinese soldiers who were revealing information or declared themselves opposed to Communist Party rule and intended to defect. The Chinese then specifically requested these soldiers by name to be released back to China before the armistice negotiations could take place. This delayed the negotiations process for over a year.[4]

    Penetrating the CIA

    Following his U.S. Army service, Chin applied to and was accepted by the CIA. He was assigned as a Chinese language translator and analyst of the Chinese Communist press at the Foreign Broadcast Information Service (FBIS), where he continued his espionage for China. He was posted in Okinawa (1952–61), Santa Rosa, California (1961–71) and Rosslyn, Virginia (1971–81).[4] According to No Kum-Sok, the North Korean pilot who defected with a MiG-15, Larry Chin was one of his CIA handlers after his defection.[6]

    As an FBI analyst and one of the CIA's few fluent Chinese linguists, Chin was able to pass along such information as Intelligence Information Reports (IIRs) on China and East Asia, biographical profiles and assessments of fellow CIA employees, and the names and identities of the Agency's covert agents. He was also in a position to provide information about recruited deep-cover agents in China. Due to the CIA's policy of internal compartmentalization, Chin did not know their real names or identities; however, based on the intelligence they provided, he could infer such things as their locations, employers, and levels of access. Chinese counterintelligence could then attempt to identify them by determining who had access to what information. Once the agents were identified, they would routinely be arrested and executed, or, alternatively, fed false information to be communicated to the CIA.[4] Most significantly, in 1970 Chin provided to the Maoist leadership in Beijing CIA documents that revealed the plans of President Richard Nixon to engage China in order to form a tactical alliance against (and put pressure on) the Soviet Union. Mao, knowing in advance of American designs and objectives, could squeeze maximum concessions from the Nixon administration.[4]
     
    Combine all that Pollard and Bloch did, and you get a tiny fraction of the damage caused by Ames, Hanssen or Chin individually.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @JMcG

    Hanssen is still in prison and will hopefully die there. According to your link, Chin killed himself with a garbage bag in his cell. Aldrich Ames is still in prison. Let’s talk about The Rosenbergs, David Greenglass, Harry Gold, Ted Hall. Let’s talk about Zaman Shapiro, the head of NUMEC, who stole, from the US, the fissionable material that Israel would use to build its first nukes.
    Pollard, by contrast, is walking around as a free man, with every desire he’ll ever have met by a grateful nation. If there’s any justice in the world, he’ll burn to death surrounded by Palestinians who decline to piss on him.

    • Thanks: JimDandy
  79. Now I know what they mean when they refer to “white privilege”.

  80. @Jack D
    @JMcG

    Pollard (and the USS Liberty) is like Emmett Till for anti-Semites. I'll see your Jonathan Pollard and raise you an Aldrich Ames.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Alfa158, @Johann Ricke, @nebulafox, @res

    The difference being that Till was a kid who was tortured to death by racist psychopaths, and Pollard was a convicted traitor who was not only released rather than spending the rest of his life in jail, but walked off the plane to applause from his paymasters.

    • Replies: @By-tor
    @nebulafox

    Tortured as his father tortured those two Italian women he raped, or did the tall trouble-making Emmett junior stalk the wrong married white woman?

    , @Johann Ricke
    @nebulafox


    Pollard was a convicted traitor who was not only released rather than spending the rest of his life in jail, but walked off the plane to applause from his paymasters.
     
    Pollard got a life term and served every single minute of the 30-year term this meant in practice.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard#Parole

    Whereas Yosef Amit, an Israeli traitor who got caught spying for the US, got a 12 year term, of which he served 7 years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosef_Amit
  81. @J.Ross
    @J.Ross

    follow-up to this: Bill Kristol is tweeting that it's not too late to salvage Afghanistan.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    Remember, kids: if Bill Kristol says it, the other thing is usually a smart idea.

  82. @nebulafox
    @Jack D

    The difference being that Till was a kid who was tortured to death by racist psychopaths, and Pollard was a convicted traitor who was not only released rather than spending the rest of his life in jail, but walked off the plane to applause from his paymasters.

    Replies: @By-tor, @Johann Ricke

    Tortured as his father tortured those two Italian women he raped, or did the tall trouble-making Emmett junior stalk the wrong married white woman?

  83. @Anon
    @Trinity

    That's a common misconception on Unz.com.

    US military servicemen are, on average, from upper middle class backgrounds, and generally come from New England and the PNW (especially special forces operators). The professionalization of the US military since the 1980s has weeded out working class types. And no, males from the south or midwest are not the majority of unlisted men (fitness standards, and also intelligence standards for southerners, tend to eliminate them more often than northeastern and western men).

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Trinity, @Reg Cæsar, @S. Anonyia, @Colin Wright, @Kratoklastes, @William Badwhite

    What kind of fantasy is this? Soldiers are not upper middle class. Even officer types only seem middle class, whereas the rank and file are solidly lower middle class and working class.

    There were at least 20 lower middle class white, Hispanic, and black guys (+ 2 girls) from my high school class who signed up for the army or navy right after graduation (late 2000s). This was a middle class suburban school, too, recruit numbers are way higher from more rural, inland, and poorer parts of the South.

    Most signed up out of boredom, lack of direction, or desire for solid lifetime benefits (can’t blame em). Plus a few psychos with bloodlust. The tests aren’t especially hard to pass and fitness standards aren’t that stringent, either, considering they’ve been watered down over the years. Also, most recruits sign up in their late teens or early 20s, when it should only take a few weeks to months to get in shape.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @S. Anonyia


    Even officer types only seem middle class, whereas the rank and file are solidly lower middle class and working class.
     
    The Coast Guard in the 1970s was full of smart guys who weren't a good fit for college for various other reasons. (Mea culpa.) It was their alternative to the student deferment.

    Enlistments were for four years, and reenlistments for six. If you went in at eighteen, you might re-up at 22, as you could be drafted until age 26. But if you did, you'd be halfway to retirement at the end of the second enlistment. So many of those guys stayed in. Especially if they had started families.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    , @Anon
    @S. Anonyia

    Keep coping, puta. US military recruits are mostly from privileged backgrounds. Working class people can't get in to the military anymore.

    https://freakonomics.com/2008/09/22/who-serves-in-the-military-today/

    https://www.nytimes.com/images/blogs/freakonomics/posts/Enlisted2.jpg

    Replies: @epebble, @S. Anonyia

  84. @epebble
    All for naught. Twenty years of U.S. effort was undone in a week by Taliban. I don't think there is another parallel in world history of 1,000 fold "efficiency". I think this will mark the end of "American Empire". This is our Suez Crisis. You can sleep well that there won't be another invade the world for long, long time.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @JMcG, @J.Ross, @Anonymous, @JimDandy, @Pat Kittle, @Coemgen

    I don’t know. Israel doesn’t like to fight its own wars, and the military industrial complex ain’t gonna blow itself.

  85. @Jack D
    @Alfa158

    Pollard received the maximum sentence then permitted by law and served every day of it and when it was over they had to let him go. I'm sure you would have enjoyed it if he fried like the Rosenbergs but it wasn't allowed by law.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Giant Duck

    They could have extended his parole until 2030, but instead Big Daddy Adelson flew him on his private jet to Israel, where Bibi embraced him and he was given the same pension that Mossad and Shin Bet agents receive. If I was given the opportunity to give Pollard the Rosenberg treatment, I wouldn’t have pulled the switch. But I would have supported giving him some version of what our greatest ally gave to Vanunu:

    *he shall not leave Israel
    *he shall not speak to any foreigner unless granted approval to do so by Shin Bet
    *he shall not come within 550 yards (500 m) of a border crossing or airport
    *he shall not come within 100 yards (90 m) of a foreign embassy
    *his phone and Internet use shall be subject to monitoring
    *he shall notify authorities of any change in his place of residence, and whom he intends to meet

  86. @Jack D
    @Alfa158

    Pollard received the maximum sentence then permitted by law and served every day of it and when it was over they had to let him go. I'm sure you would have enjoyed it if he fried like the Rosenbergs but it wasn't allowed by law.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Giant Duck

    Pollard received the maximum sentence then permitted by law and served every day of it and when it was over they had to let him go.

    Wrong. Releasing Pollard was a discretionary decision by the United States Parole Commission, based on an assessment of his prison record and his likelihood of reoffending. You can agree or disagree with their decision, but they certainly did not “have to” do anything. A denial of his parole by the Commission would have resulted in Pollard serving 15 more years, because “the maximum sentence then permitted by law,” as you put it, was life, understood as 45 years in prison, not the 30 years Pollard served.

  87. @Jack D
    @JMcG

    Pollard (and the USS Liberty) is like Emmett Till for anti-Semites. I'll see your Jonathan Pollard and raise you an Aldrich Ames.

    Replies: @JMcG, @Alfa158, @Johann Ricke, @nebulafox, @res

    I’ll see your Jonathan Pollard and raise you an Aldrich Ames.

    That’s a good comparison. Thanks.

    Ames – Currently serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole.

    Pollard – Currently free and living an honored life in his country–Israel.

    Surprised you would serve up such weak sauce, Jack. Usually you are better than that. But I guess this one was just beyond even your ability to sugarcoat.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
    @res


    Surprised you would serve up such weak sauce, Jack. Usually you are better than that. But I guess this one was just beyond even your ability to sugarcoat.
     
    Came here to write the same thing. Mine was 'Seriously? That's the best you've got?'.

    Poor JackD: that was almost slapstick - like Sideshow Bob stepping on a rake in 'The Simpsons.

    Still, it was a really useful example of the Myth of Ashkenazi Exceptionalism.

    Turns out that the 1957 test results from the Heeb's Talented Tenth are a poor guide, and clannish nepotism has all the explanatory power after all. Who woulda thunk?
  88. @nebulafox
    @Jack D

    The difference being that Till was a kid who was tortured to death by racist psychopaths, and Pollard was a convicted traitor who was not only released rather than spending the rest of his life in jail, but walked off the plane to applause from his paymasters.

    Replies: @By-tor, @Johann Ricke

    Pollard was a convicted traitor who was not only released rather than spending the rest of his life in jail, but walked off the plane to applause from his paymasters.

    Pollard got a life term and served every single minute of the 30-year term this meant in practice.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard#Parole

    Whereas Yosef Amit, an Israeli traitor who got caught spying for the US, got a 12 year term, of which he served 7 years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yosef_Amit

  89. @S. Anonyia
    @Anon

    What kind of fantasy is this? Soldiers are not upper middle class. Even officer types only seem middle class, whereas the rank and file are solidly lower middle class and working class.

    There were at least 20 lower middle class white, Hispanic, and black guys (+ 2 girls) from my high school class who signed up for the army or navy right after graduation (late 2000s). This was a middle class suburban school, too, recruit numbers are way higher from more rural, inland, and poorer parts of the South.

    Most signed up out of boredom, lack of direction, or desire for solid lifetime benefits (can’t blame em). Plus a few psychos with bloodlust. The tests aren’t especially hard to pass and fitness standards aren’t that stringent, either, considering they’ve been watered down over the years. Also, most recruits sign up in their late teens or early 20s, when it should only take a few weeks to months to get in shape.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    Even officer types only seem middle class, whereas the rank and file are solidly lower middle class and working class.

    The Coast Guard in the 1970s was full of smart guys who weren’t a good fit for college for various other reasons. (Mea culpa.) It was their alternative to the student deferment.

    Enlistments were for four years, and reenlistments for six. If you went in at eighteen, you might re-up at 22, as you could be drafted until age 26. But if you did, you’d be halfway to retirement at the end of the second enlistment. So many of those guys stayed in. Especially if they had started families.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Reg Cæsar

    Used to be that only 15-20% of service members re-upped after the first four years, but of those who did, 80-85% stayed for the whole 20 years.

  90. @ArthurinCali
    Most who frequent Mr. Sailer's blog already know what I'm about to say.

    The insidious aspect of the post 9/11 Era in the USA was the techniques and shadow games used by the ruling class to promote and encourage the American carnage.

    To push all of the buttons for Heritage Americans to actually believe that if we didn't fight them over there, they would end up taking over small towns in Texas, the Carolinas, Kansas. That our lives were worth protecting and continuing the facade that this conflict, this war they declared was truly worth dying for.

    Instead it was another way to cut down the numbers of us who have followed our ancestors into another pointless endeavor.

    Many learn and understand the words of Smedley Butler too late. To paraphrase,
    "I didn't fight for freedom and democracy. I fought for the United Fruit Company. Wars are fought for bankers and tyrants benefit."

    My children will not be fed into the grinder so a stock goes up 2 points or a politician gets his beak wet.

    After 10 generations of military service the charade of serving a country that hates me and mine stops now.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @Blodgie, @Bill, @Lurker, @Gabe Ruth

    if we didn’t fight them over there, they would end up taking over small towns in Texas, the Carolinas, Kansas

    And of course various different theys are busy taking over small towns all over anyway.

    • Agree: Old Prude, AceDeuce
  91. Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) is the war in Afghanistan.

    They don’t make operation names like they used to. In 1945 we had Paperclip, Cornflakes, Lusty, and Musketeer. The Brits and Norwegians had Musketoon. The Brits also had Dracula, Lentil, Mopup, and Zipper. The Raj, specifically the “Chindits”, used Corkscrew.

    The Krauts used Caesar. (Hey, don’t look at me. Dad was on our side.)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_military_operations#

    Can you imagine guys sitting around the VFW decades from now reminiscing about Operations Inherent Resolve, Iraqi Freedom, and, may God have mercy on us, Uphold Democracy?

    The Eagle Has Grounded— a prescient Indian artist has captured this moment in stone:

    The author of the sculpture also says how important it is to not turn the monument from a cultural one into a religious one. According to him “Jatayu died protecting a woman’s honor and that is what the sculpture stands for.”

    https://www.boredpanda.com/largest-bird-statue-jadayupara-jatayu-earth-centre-india/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

    • Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Reg Cæsar

    This was the US Hundred Year War. Next up the War of the Roses civil war. There will be no VFW.

  92. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/philipgiraldi/status/1344280552837439492

    Watch the first 12 seconds of the video below. Just utterly remarkable. He literally kisses the ground of Israel.

    https://twitter.com/pdabrosca/status/1344449971744071681

    He has been given a high-paying Wall Street job. The type of job that typically requires an Ivy League MBA.

    https://twitter.com/Pandemic_Times/status/667875720496967680

    Replies: @El Dato, @kaganovitch

    Watch the first 12 seconds of the video below. Just utterly remarkable. He literally kisses the ground of Israel.

    This is not remarkable, it is a venerable tradition among religious Jews, alluded to in the Talmud and codified by Maimonides ‘Laws of Kings’ Chap. 5:10.

  93. @epebble
    All for naught. Twenty years of U.S. effort was undone in a week by Taliban. I don't think there is another parallel in world history of 1,000 fold "efficiency". I think this will mark the end of "American Empire". This is our Suez Crisis. You can sleep well that there won't be another invade the world for long, long time.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @JMcG, @J.Ross, @Anonymous, @JimDandy, @Pat Kittle, @Coemgen

    You can sleep well that there won’t be another invade the world for long, long time.

    Well we certainly agree with that except IRAN HAS WMD’s!!

    Poor little Israel!!

  94. @S. Anonyia
    @Anon

    What kind of fantasy is this? Soldiers are not upper middle class. Even officer types only seem middle class, whereas the rank and file are solidly lower middle class and working class.

    There were at least 20 lower middle class white, Hispanic, and black guys (+ 2 girls) from my high school class who signed up for the army or navy right after graduation (late 2000s). This was a middle class suburban school, too, recruit numbers are way higher from more rural, inland, and poorer parts of the South.

    Most signed up out of boredom, lack of direction, or desire for solid lifetime benefits (can’t blame em). Plus a few psychos with bloodlust. The tests aren’t especially hard to pass and fitness standards aren’t that stringent, either, considering they’ve been watered down over the years. Also, most recruits sign up in their late teens or early 20s, when it should only take a few weeks to months to get in shape.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    Keep coping, puta. US military recruits are mostly from privileged backgrounds. Working class people can’t get in to the military anymore.

    https://freakonomics.com/2008/09/22/who-serves-in-the-military-today/

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Anon

    What if Neighborhood # Family Wealth/Income? Families in established neighborhoods may be house-rich but cash-poor. If a corresponding chart exists for family wealth or income, that would be interesting.

    Replies: @JohnPlywood

    , @S. Anonyia
    @Anon

    These are neighborhood income levels not personal/family incomes. Could easily be that poorer people from middle class neighborhoods make up many enlistees. How are they defining what constitutes a neighborhood anyway? In small towns there aren’t clear delineations of neighborhoods, just houses sprawling out from a few blocks of a downtown type zone or from highways.

    Read the comments on your link- most of them think the data is misleading.

    Also this data is pretty old. Older than even the anecdotal experiences I described.

    But if you want to believe in your fantasy, okay. You are upper middle class.

  95. It is now 41 years since the US (and some other countries) boycotted the Moscow Olympics to protest the Russian occupation of Afghanistan.

    It must have been very effective, because the Russians later left Afghanistan only 8 years later.

    Maybe the US should now boycott Paris 2024 to protest the Taliban. Obviously Paris has little to do with the Taliban, but there are lots Parisians who may be Taliban sympathizers, and anyway, it’s the thought that counts.

    This would also have the secondary benefit of sparing Americans the dreadful NBC Olympics coverage on TV (if TV still exists in 2024).

  96. @Anon
    @Trinity

    That's a common misconception on Unz.com.

    US military servicemen are, on average, from upper middle class backgrounds, and generally come from New England and the PNW (especially special forces operators). The professionalization of the US military since the 1980s has weeded out working class types. And no, males from the south or midwest are not the majority of unlisted men (fitness standards, and also intelligence standards for southerners, tend to eliminate them more often than northeastern and western men).

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Trinity, @Reg Cæsar, @S. Anonyia, @Colin Wright, @Kratoklastes, @William Badwhite

    ‘US military servicemen are, on average, from upper middle class backgrounds, and generally come from New England and the PNW (especially special forces operators). ..’

    This is almost perfect tripe. It becomes perfect tripe if we restrict the sample to the combat arms.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
  97. @A. Hipster
    @Farenheit

    they are like you would expect knowing the Ashkenazim IQ, but for instance Aleksandr Semyonovich Vindman did receive a Purple Heart.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘they are like you would expect knowing the Ashkenazim IQ, but for instance Aleksandr Semyonovich Vindman did receive a Purple Heart.’

    I’m not too disturbed that your definition of ‘smart’ means that your side winds up with less military training.

  98. They died for Uncle Shmueli like good little golem. Good human material wasted on Semitic Lies.

  99. @Reg Cæsar

    Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) is the war in Afghanistan.
     
    They don't make operation names like they used to. In 1945 we had Paperclip, Cornflakes, Lusty, and Musketeer. The Brits and Norwegians had Musketoon. The Brits also had Dracula, Lentil, Mopup, and Zipper. The Raj, specifically the "Chindits", used Corkscrew.

    The Krauts used Caesar. (Hey, don't look at me. Dad was on our side.)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_military_operations#

    Can you imagine guys sitting around the VFW decades from now reminiscing about Operations Inherent Resolve, Iraqi Freedom, and, may God have mercy on us, Uphold Democracy?

    The Eagle Has Grounded-- a prescient Indian artist has captured this moment in stone:

    https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/largest-bird-statue-jadayupara-jatayu-earth-centre-india-3-5cb990adad5df__700.jpg


    The author of the sculpture also says how important it is to not turn the monument from a cultural one into a religious one. According to him “Jatayu died protecting a woman’s honor and that is what the sculpture stands for."

    https://www.boredpanda.com/largest-bird-statue-jadayupara-jatayu-earth-centre-india/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic

     

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    This was the US Hundred Year War. Next up the War of the Roses civil war. There will be no VFW.

  100. @anonymous
    Poll #1: Should whites enlist in the US military?

    #2: Should whites become officers in the US military?

    Replies: @3g4me, @David In TN, @Old Prude

    Emphatically “Yes!” To both questions. You will get good training and familiarity with weaponry and tactics, supply, ordinance, communication, etc… You don’t have to rah-rah. Just do your job, and if asked to do anything to support globohomo, just half-ass it with sugar in the gas tank.

    If the military is ever turned on bad-whites, what better place to be than somewhere you can throw sand in the gears. “Oh, I though you said grid 69-53-20, not 69-63-20. Oops”. “Sorry, transmission garbled…”

    So much easier to cause havoc as an insider.

  101. Life is a little more complicated than some folks think.

    It is certainly a viable thought that our White youth should avoid military service like the plague, considering the state of 2021 America, and the misuse and abuse of our “national defense” personnel by using them for spurious/wrongheaded/downright stupid purposes.

    But, by abdicating White participation wholesale, Whites are (once again) ducking and running and ceding ever more of our nation to nonwhites, who will simultaneously render the military even less competent and effective than it is, which won’t help things if the military is ever needed for any legitimate reason, while making a dandy weaponized brownshirt/brownskin organization to sic against evil White “domestic terrorists”-y’know, like White folks in general.

    An all “of color” U.S. military probably couldn’t keep planes flying or ships sailing straight (we’re halfway there now) and South Korea, much less Russia or China, could easily clean their clocks in a war, but they could sure play hell with the Deplorables over here if future President Cori Bush directs them to, and they would gladly do so.

    Whites going in the service can at least keep things semi-honest, these kids could get some good training and experience that I suspect they might need urgently in the future, and, by being in contact with nonwhites, become race realists, instead of just staying comfortably numb like so many Whites are nowadays and have been for 50 years.

    • Agree: Old Prude
  102. @Reg Cæsar
    @S. Anonyia


    Even officer types only seem middle class, whereas the rank and file are solidly lower middle class and working class.
     
    The Coast Guard in the 1970s was full of smart guys who weren't a good fit for college for various other reasons. (Mea culpa.) It was their alternative to the student deferment.

    Enlistments were for four years, and reenlistments for six. If you went in at eighteen, you might re-up at 22, as you could be drafted until age 26. But if you did, you'd be halfway to retirement at the end of the second enlistment. So many of those guys stayed in. Especially if they had started families.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    Used to be that only 15-20% of service members re-upped after the first four years, but of those who did, 80-85% stayed for the whole 20 years.

  103. Amazing how many join to fight for a Country that hates them, Example A Congress Women who is Asian from Hawaii, can’t think of her name, said Biden should not appoint any White Males unless they are Homosexual or Trans Sexual, Biden was frequently asked do you think the democratic Party really wants another straight White Male as President, The Media destroyed Nick Sandman after he smiled at the Indian beating the Drum in his face, The Media NEVER mentioned The Indian and others were calling the kids waiting for a Bus Derogatory names for OVER an hour before that Example look at these Incest Children, When Diversity is brought up it is ALWAYS about getting rid of Whites even if they are better qualified, But in Jobs where Whites are underrepresented they never say we need more white players in the NBA. When it was announced the White Population is declining The Media was all happy like that is a great thing, and all these professors (Mostly White Themselves) Keep coming up with Anti-White Rhetoric, Whites are oppressors, One White Teacher Noel Ignatiev on the day he was retiring told his Class, White people are the Cancer of Society and if any White Student wants to improve the World go kill yourself (This White teacher did not volunteer to lead by example unfortunately) They Hate us, our History, our Traditions our Values, Example they keep cramming this LGBTQ stuff down our throats, even though our natural instincts tell us it is evil, Why join to Fight for a Country that Clearly Hates you?.

    Now that I see what is happening in the USA, I agree with Patton when he said We Fought The WRONG ENEMY. And now I Think Hitler SHOULD be seen as a Hero as he tried to Stop all this.

  104. @epebble
    All for naught. Twenty years of U.S. effort was undone in a week by Taliban. I don't think there is another parallel in world history of 1,000 fold "efficiency". I think this will mark the end of "American Empire". This is our Suez Crisis. You can sleep well that there won't be another invade the world for long, long time.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @JMcG, @J.Ross, @Anonymous, @JimDandy, @Pat Kittle, @Coemgen

    Invade the world? I’ve been watching network news lately. It sounds more like they’re building up to invade Florida.

  105. @El Dato
    @syonredux

    TRACKING WITH CLOSEUPS

    It's really like reading Stand on Zanzibar

    A weird world that we can't comprehend full of individuals doing bizarre stuff and emitting bizarre phrases - pretending to be on top as they are actually completely lost.

    Because while you are still processing what's happened yesterday, the world has changed to give you today, hard and fast.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Gabe Ruth

    Should be on the list with 1984 and Brave New World, really ahead of it’s time.

  106. @ArthurinCali
    Most who frequent Mr. Sailer's blog already know what I'm about to say.

    The insidious aspect of the post 9/11 Era in the USA was the techniques and shadow games used by the ruling class to promote and encourage the American carnage.

    To push all of the buttons for Heritage Americans to actually believe that if we didn't fight them over there, they would end up taking over small towns in Texas, the Carolinas, Kansas. That our lives were worth protecting and continuing the facade that this conflict, this war they declared was truly worth dying for.

    Instead it was another way to cut down the numbers of us who have followed our ancestors into another pointless endeavor.

    Many learn and understand the words of Smedley Butler too late. To paraphrase,
    "I didn't fight for freedom and democracy. I fought for the United Fruit Company. Wars are fought for bankers and tyrants benefit."

    My children will not be fed into the grinder so a stock goes up 2 points or a politician gets his beak wet.

    After 10 generations of military service the charade of serving a country that hates me and mine stops now.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @AndrewR, @Blodgie, @Bill, @Lurker, @Gabe Ruth

    I turned 18 a few months after 9/11. I’ll always feel a little guilty that I did not sign up then, because given my understanding of the world at the time, it was my duty.

    But I also thank God that I didn’t for a great variety of reasons, not least because of what I now know I would have been fighting for.

  107. @Anon
    @S. Anonyia

    Keep coping, puta. US military recruits are mostly from privileged backgrounds. Working class people can't get in to the military anymore.

    https://freakonomics.com/2008/09/22/who-serves-in-the-military-today/

    https://www.nytimes.com/images/blogs/freakonomics/posts/Enlisted2.jpg

    Replies: @epebble, @S. Anonyia

    What if Neighborhood # Family Wealth/Income? Families in established neighborhoods may be house-rich but cash-poor. If a corresponding chart exists for family wealth or income, that would be interesting.

    • Replies: @JohnPlywood
    @epebble

    "OH BUT WHATTA BOUT MA BLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHBLUH!!!!!!!!!"


    Dude just read the freaking link provided so you can see the incontrovertible evidence that today's US soldiers are from the cream of the crop of American society. Something that really needs no explanation given the new US military's unparalleled track record of effortlessly occupying and controlling other people's shit with a handful of soldiers and suffering minimal casualties (and actually turning a profit). I'm sorry your country's tin-can army of borderline retarded juvenile delinquents and badly neglected feral cats doesn't compare, but it's time for you to STOP COPING.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell

  108. @epebble
    @Anon

    What if Neighborhood # Family Wealth/Income? Families in established neighborhoods may be house-rich but cash-poor. If a corresponding chart exists for family wealth or income, that would be interesting.

    Replies: @JohnPlywood

    “OH BUT WHATTA BOUT MA BLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHBLUH!!!!!!!!!

    Dude just read the freaking link provided so you can see the incontrovertible evidence that today’s US soldiers are from the cream of the crop of American society. Something that really needs no explanation given the new US military’s unparalleled track record of effortlessly occupying and controlling other people’s shit with a handful of soldiers and suffering minimal casualties (and actually turning a profit). I’m sorry your country’s tin-can army of borderline retarded juvenile delinquents and badly neglected feral cats doesn’t compare, but it’s time for you to STOP COPING.

    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    @JohnPlywood

    You should try the corporate and State backed medication that you have so much belief in. I mean, our country leads the world, so it must be good stuff, logically.

    That aside, I look forward to more of this "cream of the crop" giving up and returning home from their "effortless" occupations. Biden will be the greatest president in history if he keeps this up, no kidding.

    What a shame all the profit they were turning built exactly nothing in America in regards to urban quality of life, sensible programs or good infrastructure. Is an empire that has potholes worth such a thing?

    I mean, to you, yes. You speak with the voice of daemon-worshippers though, so it doesn't count for much.

  109. “The wounded are almost all from the Midwest and have German and Scandinavian names,” said a friend of mine who worked at Walter Reed Hospital from 2003-2015.

  110. @Anon
    @Trinity

    That's a common misconception on Unz.com.

    US military servicemen are, on average, from upper middle class backgrounds, and generally come from New England and the PNW (especially special forces operators). The professionalization of the US military since the 1980s has weeded out working class types. And no, males from the south or midwest are not the majority of unlisted men (fitness standards, and also intelligence standards for southerners, tend to eliminate them more often than northeastern and western men).

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Trinity, @Reg Cæsar, @S. Anonyia, @Colin Wright, @Kratoklastes, @William Badwhite

    This type of post is usually a deliberate misdirection: either that or it’s based on ignorance of the data.

    The key part of this misdirection is that it fails to distinguish between service branches: Navy and Air Force have always had better recruiting demographics than Army (or Marines), just as enlisted men tilt more ‘working class’ than the officer caste.

    More than half of the US ‘military’ is made up of Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard, so that gives the overall ‘military enlisted’ data a slightly more ‘middle class’ tilt as a result.

    Look solely at Army and Marines – and narrow it down further to combat roles, and the working class tilt becomes obvious. The bullet-catchers are white and Hispanic.

    There is also a tilt against enlistment for people from households in the top income quintile – roughly \$87k in total pre-tax household income – which I would not consider anywhere near enough to furnish a ‘middle class’ family lifestyle… and yet the middle income quintile is \$20k lower (\$53k-\$66k). This is the great lie of US social discourse: that class is meaningfully linked to income. Elsewhere in the West, class and income are (properly) unrelated – and ‘middle class’ is more about social affectations (consumption of classical music, literature and so forth) and is thought of as a bottom-half-of-the-top-income-quintile thing..

    Demographically, one important predictor of enlistment is a father who enlisted – a lot of ‘military families’ are multigenerational. (And if your Dad is a 20-year Army enlisted man, your household is going to get to the ‘middle class’ total household income quintile really quite easily).

    In raw numbers, the state with the greatest number of enlistees is CA – but there’s plenty of white trash in California so it’s hardly dispositive of the ‘middle class military’ trope. After that it’s Texas, North Carolina, Georgia, and Florida (and New York).

    In proportionate terms (relative to state populations), the top 5 include Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, Virginia (and also Hawai’i and Alaska).

    So no: the people who will turn their weapons on the US populace when ordered to, are not middle-income Californian children of relatively-affluent households (the latter might be ‘piloting’ the drones, though). When it comes, the triggers will be being pulled by white Southerners from the bottom 40% of the income distribution. The majority of them will do precisely as ordered.

    SOURCE: https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/demographics-us-military

    • Thanks: JMcG, S. Anonyia
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Kratoklastes

    I hope you don't actually believe any of the bullshit in this ramshackle effort of a post you managed to string together.


    1.) The vast majority of people in Texas, North Carolina, etc, do not have roots there. These are states of immigrants. Most of those "Texans" joining the military are children of immigrants from California, New York, etc.

    2.) The Army and Marines aren't recruiting working class people. You're making shit up. They were decades ago, but not anymore. The problem with so many of you geezers on Unz is that you're stil living in the 20th century. You balk and get all worked up whenever a young person says something that doesn't conform to whatever your fucked up observations were, decades ago.

    The new military passively discriminates against legacy southerners, and to a lesser extent, midwesterners. They neither want nor need them in the new military and they DEFINITELY don't put them in combat roles. Just the fucking annoying ass accents of southerners and Hispanics alone would be a sufficient reason to keep them out. The vast majority of direct engagement today is conducted with special forces troops -- often Navy SEALs. These individuals are highly educated and from upper middle class to wealthy backgrounds. The old military infantry you're thinking of does not exist anymore.

  111. @res
    @Jack D


    I’ll see your Jonathan Pollard and raise you an Aldrich Ames.
     
    That's a good comparison. Thanks.

    Ames - Currently serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole.

    Pollard - Currently free and living an honored life in his country--Israel.

    Surprised you would serve up such weak sauce, Jack. Usually you are better than that. But I guess this one was just beyond even your ability to sugarcoat.

    Replies: @Kratoklastes

    Surprised you would serve up such weak sauce, Jack. Usually you are better than that. But I guess this one was just beyond even your ability to sugarcoat.

    Came here to write the same thing. Mine was ‘Seriously? That‘s the best you’ve got?’.

    Poor JackD: that was almost slapstick – like Sideshow Bob stepping on a rake in ‘The Simpsons.

    Still, it was a really useful example of the Myth of Ashkenazi Exceptionalism.

    Turns out that the 1957 test results from the Heeb’s Talented Tenth are a poor guide, and clannish nepotism has all the explanatory power after all. Who woulda thunk?

    • Agree: 3g4me
  112. Anon[315] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kratoklastes
    @Anon

    This type of post is usually a deliberate misdirection: either that or it's based on ignorance of the data.

    The key part of this misdirection is that it fails to distinguish between service branches: Navy and Air Force have always had better recruiting demographics than Army (or Marines), just as enlisted men tilt more 'working class' than the officer caste.

    More than half of the US 'military' is made up of Air Force, Navy and Coast Guard, so that gives the overall 'military enlisted' data a slightly more 'middle class' tilt as a result.

    Look solely at Army and Marines - and narrow it down further to combat roles, and the working class tilt becomes obvious. The bullet-catchers are white and Hispanic.

    There is also a tilt against enlistment for people from households in the top income quintile - roughly $87k in total pre-tax household income - which I would not consider anywhere near enough to furnish a 'middle class' family lifestyle... and yet the middle income quintile is $20k lower ($53k-$66k). This is the great lie of US social discourse: that class is meaningfully linked to income. Elsewhere in the West, class and income are (properly) unrelated - and 'middle class' is more about social affectations (consumption of classical music, literature and so forth) and is thought of as a bottom-half-of-the-top-income-quintile thing..

    Demographically, one important predictor of enlistment is a father who enlisted - a lot of 'military families' are multigenerational. (And if your Dad is a 20-year Army enlisted man, your household is going to get to the 'middle class' total household income quintile really quite easily).


    In raw numbers, the state with the greatest number of enlistees is CA - but there's plenty of white trash in California so it's hardly dispositive of the 'middle class military' trope. After that it's Texas, North Carolina, Georgia, and Florida (and New York).

    In proportionate terms (relative to state populations), the top 5 include Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, Virginia (and also Hawai'i and Alaska).

    So no: the people who will turn their weapons on the US populace when ordered to, are not middle-income Californian children of relatively-affluent households (the latter might be 'piloting' the drones, though). When it comes, the triggers will be being pulled by white Southerners from the bottom 40% of the income distribution. The majority of them will do precisely as ordered.

    SOURCE: https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/demographics-us-military

    Replies: @Anon

    I hope you don’t actually believe any of the bullshit in this ramshackle effort of a post you managed to string together.

    1.) The vast majority of people in Texas, North Carolina, etc, do not have roots there. These are states of immigrants. Most of those “Texans” joining the military are children of immigrants from California, New York, etc.

    2.) The Army and Marines aren’t recruiting working class people. You’re making shit up. They were decades ago, but not anymore. The problem with so many of you geezers on Unz is that you’re stil living in the 20th century. You balk and get all worked up whenever a young person says something that doesn’t conform to whatever your fucked up observations were, decades ago.

    The new military passively discriminates against legacy southerners, and to a lesser extent, midwesterners. They neither want nor need them in the new military and they DEFINITELY don’t put them in combat roles. Just the fucking annoying ass accents of southerners and Hispanics alone would be a sufficient reason to keep them out. The vast majority of direct engagement today is conducted with special forces troops — often Navy SEALs. These individuals are highly educated and from upper middle class to wealthy backgrounds. The old military infantry you’re thinking of does not exist anymore.

  113. @Anon
    @S. Anonyia

    Keep coping, puta. US military recruits are mostly from privileged backgrounds. Working class people can't get in to the military anymore.

    https://freakonomics.com/2008/09/22/who-serves-in-the-military-today/

    https://www.nytimes.com/images/blogs/freakonomics/posts/Enlisted2.jpg

    Replies: @epebble, @S. Anonyia

    These are neighborhood income levels not personal/family incomes. Could easily be that poorer people from middle class neighborhoods make up many enlistees. How are they defining what constitutes a neighborhood anyway? In small towns there aren’t clear delineations of neighborhoods, just houses sprawling out from a few blocks of a downtown type zone or from highways.

    Read the comments on your link- most of them think the data is misleading.

    Also this data is pretty old. Older than even the anecdotal experiences I described.

    But if you want to believe in your fantasy, okay. You are upper middle class.

    • Agree: Boomthorkell
  114. @Anon
    @Trinity

    That's a common misconception on Unz.com.

    US military servicemen are, on average, from upper middle class backgrounds, and generally come from New England and the PNW (especially special forces operators). The professionalization of the US military since the 1980s has weeded out working class types. And no, males from the south or midwest are not the majority of unlisted men (fitness standards, and also intelligence standards for southerners, tend to eliminate them more often than northeastern and western men).

    Replies: @Desiderius, @Trinity, @Reg Cæsar, @S. Anonyia, @Colin Wright, @Kratoklastes, @William Badwhite

    What is an “unlisted man”? Try harder, troll.

  115. @JohnPlywood
    @epebble

    "OH BUT WHATTA BOUT MA BLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHBLUHBLUH!!!!!!!!!"


    Dude just read the freaking link provided so you can see the incontrovertible evidence that today's US soldiers are from the cream of the crop of American society. Something that really needs no explanation given the new US military's unparalleled track record of effortlessly occupying and controlling other people's shit with a handful of soldiers and suffering minimal casualties (and actually turning a profit). I'm sorry your country's tin-can army of borderline retarded juvenile delinquents and badly neglected feral cats doesn't compare, but it's time for you to STOP COPING.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell

    You should try the corporate and State backed medication that you have so much belief in. I mean, our country leads the world, so it must be good stuff, logically.

    That aside, I look forward to more of this “cream of the crop” giving up and returning home from their “effortless” occupations. Biden will be the greatest president in history if he keeps this up, no kidding.

    What a shame all the profit they were turning built exactly nothing in America in regards to urban quality of life, sensible programs or good infrastructure. Is an empire that has potholes worth such a thing?

    I mean, to you, yes. You speak with the voice of daemon-worshippers though, so it doesn’t count for much.

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