How many legit white people kill black people every year? I can’t find any stories on this happening. Has to be <10 a year.

Ah, to be a white person killed by another white person.

That’s the dream, right boys and girls?

St Louis and Baltimore cities didn’t make the list, nor San Francisco, nor a single parish of Louisiana. Virginia is represented by Fairfax alone– none of the Commonwealth’s “independent cities”.

Which of these 100 counties has the fewest whites? What is the cutoff?

Indianapolis was the most dangerous place for pale people in the entire country? that’s pretty crazy. i lived there from 06 to 09 and it wasn’t like that back then. then again…

Dutch commando who traveled to the US for urban combat training has died after being shot outside a hotel in Indianapolis

sounds like they got the training they were looking for. i wonder who shot them…

Blue Americans think red Americans are maniacs with all their guns and their calls for law and order, while red Americans think blue Americans are insulated and don’t understand the need for law and order.

Although I’m neither blue nor red, I think you’ve missed a lot of “blue people.” specifically I’m talking about the large cohort which are themselves criminals, or criminal-adjacent…

And the large cohort which supports them for doing the dirty work of bashing whitey literally rather than just with words and laws…

every year i drive from Denver -> Kansas City -> St Louis -> Indianapolis -> Pittsburgh, and back again.

when i made this trip in 2020, i posted on iSteve that the 3 middle cities on this route were all having record murder rates, and that i talked with 2 friends in Indianapolis, a police officer and a doctor, about the escalating situation there. sounds like it only got worse.

Vegas has always been somewhat dangerous. when i lived there from 02 to 06, it seemed like the police killed 3 or 4 people every month. LVPD went out of their way to secure the Strip, but it’s still a target for killings once every few years. some illegal alien hacked up the Strip this year. things may be worse now that the Raiders moved there, and brought in the NFL element.

Re the last paragraph, the correct version is that blue Americans are ladder-kicking wannabe-elitist parasites who want to end class mobility, and increasing crime in other areas while quietly benefitting from good policy at home serves that purpose. They can’t make their world better so they seek to make your world worse. They want you to die violently and they think it’s funny. In case that sounds like hyperbole, there are abundant tweets, standup jokes, and scenes in movies and tv shows in which the backward Trump supporter gets his rightful comeuppance. Sometimes there is no political context, just purely racial context, like the hand-rubbing video game commercial in which a black kid and a white kid (who are clearly friends and not arguing) jostle, and the black kid knocks the white kid down like a man accidentally checking a boy. They want you to die, they think it’s funny, and “election week” instead of election day means cheating.
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OT Documents available at
http://brazilwasstolen.com/en/
strongly suggest manipulation of older votimg machines. Highly irregular, or rather perfectly regular, results look an awful lot like Joe Biden’s fake victory. All these Red Wavers celebrating early may be embarrassed. A website set up by Akamai (possible US intel tie) is admonishing Brazilians to accept the results and “move on.” It is literally illegal in Brazil proper to question election results (!) so the campaign is waged from Argentina.

So, disproportionately the “We wuz Kangs” sort of whites?

Just in case it ever comes up – Bexar county, TX, is pronounce ‘Bear’. The X is silent.

Fairfax, Westchester, Nassau, Bergen… these are all “super zip” counties.

Ha! You win the coveted • LOL and • Thanks combo award.

Vegas has always been somewhat dangerous

Stephen Paddock* may have single-handedly goosed up Las Vegas’s numbers. That shooting was sort of a white-on-white 9-11.

The post doesn’t say which years the stats are from, but if it’s like the black homicides post, it starts in 2018, which excludes the Paddock Effect.

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*Assuming he was the killer. The investigation was unusually incompetent.

What in the heck’s gotten into Newsweek?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-are-gaslighting-black-people-on-crime-opinion/ar-AA13IdYn

OT, or maybe not: Thursday night’s episode of the TV show Law and Order focused on the epidemic of large-scale, unrestrained shoplifting in New York City. A responsible citizen (a White guy) who tried to stop one of the shoplifters was shot and killed (the shoplifter was a “person of color”).

And a key plot element was that one of the ADAs on the show could have and should have put the murderer away a year or so earlier for armed robbery.

As Sailer has pointed out, Law and Order used to lean to the left.

But this episode could have been a campaign commercial for Lee Zeldin.

Producer Dick Wolf has a sense for the pulse of the country.

Americans are not happy.

The election on Tuesday is going to be interesting.

What is the cutoff?

Spot checking, it looks like about 400k, i.e., just above San Francisco.

Another question is how many actual homicides does this list represent? I think that nationally something like 6000 whites die by homicide per year. So what portion of the 6000 are on this list? And how does that compare with the portion of the national white population on the list?

My understanding is that the 6000 homicides includes suicides, domestic disputes, and maybe other things in which the deceased arguably has some responsibility. But what I suspect most people reading these lists want to know is, “Where am I least/most likely to be randomly killed though no fault of my own?” If you take out the suicides, domestics, weird manslaughter cases with deceased culpability, etc., how many of the 6000 are left?

I’ve argued elsewhere that the interracial murders (which likely skew “random”) of whites by blacks are at least 400/year, very likely at least double that, and perhaps quadruple. And that was using pre-BLM/Racial Reckoning numbers. So of 6000 recent white homicides, a big chunk (1000+) are probably death-by-blacks. Pare away the suicides, etc. to look at just the more random and avoidable murders, and avoiding the murdery race is an obvious strategy.

They can’t make their world better so they seek to make your world worse. They want you to die violently and they think it’s funny. In case that sounds like hyperbole, there are abundant tweets, standup jokes, and scenes in movies and tv shows in which the backward Trump supporter gets his rightful comeuppance.

Part of the way they make their world better is by making your world worse. Section 8, Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing, etc. are programs to export their undesirable population to your desirable location. Paid for with your tax dollars. So the “ladder-kicking” is not just symbolic, they’re really trying to injure you.

Red county whites are physically and temperamentally different from urban blue whites these days. There didn’t used to be as much of a difference in my vague recollections from my childhood, but people have increasingly sorted themselves.

You used to see a lot of brawny, masculine white guys who worked and lived in cities, but they’ve all left. Now if they have a job in the city they commute, often a long ways.

All of my big, strong friends that I can think of left Seattle years ago. Only one remained a democrat, but he works in the public sector. I saw the same thing happen in San Francisco. Between the 90s and the 10s the tougher element (e.g. bikers and such) seemed to fade away.

Although tough, masculine white guys are more prone to crime and violence, they’re also very good at keeping the peace and getting people to follow the rules. Their absence practically invites delinquency.

Perhaps these tougher types hold law and order in high esteem because they know something about themselves.

A responsible citizen (a White guy) who tried to stop one of the shoplifters was shot and killed (the shoplifter was a “person of color”).

Yes, fairly unremarkable. But you’re telling us this was depicted on a television show??

That’s not only remarkable, it borders on incredible.

Yes, the second civil war is happening now, it’s a class war, and only one side is fighting.

Indianapolis was the most dangerous place for pale people in the entire country? that’s pretty crazy.

That’s not quite what it’s saying.

It’s just that not so many whites venture into East St. Louis or Camden NJ.

Plus Steve is looking at place of residence..

Steve, maybe crank out a simple chart of three lines, 1 to 100 on X axis (ranking counties by ethnic group ) , homicide rate on Y axis, and then map whites, hispanics, blacks. Then can easily make comparisons like that you noted from a NY Times chart about white/black incarceration. Ie, the highest white homicide rate lower than the lowest black homicide rate (or something).

https://www.amren.com/features/2020/12/race-and-crime-who-attacks-whom/

Race and Crime: Who Attacks Whom?

https://www.amren.com/blog/2020/09/interracial-crime-in-america-black-on-white-murder-rape/

The Facts About Race and Crime

Renard wrote to me:

[Dave] A responsible citizen (a White guy) who tried to stop one of the shoplifters was shot and killed (the shoplifter was a “person of color”).

[Reanard] Yes, fairly unremarkable. But you’re telling us this was depicted on a television show??

That’s not only remarkable, it borders on incredible.

What’s remarkable of course is that the Law and Order franchise is huge — Dick Wolf has been wildly successful with multiple series in the franchise. Wolf knows what the public wants and how to give it to them.

Thursday night’s episode was on the reboot of the original series, the flagship for the franchise.

The episode touched on all the real issues — cashless bail, store employees who feel they cannot even try to stop the theft, thieves who do not think they are doing anything wrong, ordinary people blaming the cops but the cops (correctly) pointing out that the fault lies with the politicians and the judges, etc.

The one concession to the left is that the DA’s office was not at fault (the DA on the series is no Alvin Bragg!): the ADA had failed to put the murderer away for the previous armed robbery simply because she was overworked. And one Black cop offered a brief defense of the cashless bail system, but then admitted that it really had simply failed.

The whole episode could have been a (very well done) GOP campaign ad.

I doubt Dick Wolf is a Republican. But he does know how the country is feeling.

And Americans are angry: exactly how angry we will find out in a few days.

If one wants to learn first hand how America works, ask the elevator service tech or the fire alarm technician were he (usually a white male ) lives. They live in the far exurbs of whatever urban area they service. They do not get to have much of a personal life due to extreme commutes and being called in for emergencies.

How about you focus on the damage you did by promoting the insane Covid Lockdowns? Everyone is noticing there is zero self-reflection on that by the Usual Suspects.

Blue Americans think red Americans are maniacs with all their guns and their calls for law and order, while red Americans think blue Americans are insulated and don’t understand the need for law and order.

This insight, restating the issue in a way that reverses the cause-effect narrative escaped the pseudo-Nobel winning PhD Economist.

Framed another way, in low crime areas, citizens don’t need guns from criminals, thus, only criminals have and need guns. In high crime areas, law abiding citizens need guns for protection from the criminals.

Interestingly, the DA from Philly (IIRC) you linked to earlier seemed to get this and also recognize that arrest on *possession* was a prosecution tool that has a disparate impact. Arrest on possession is effective because the prosecution has a prima facia case. Nonetheless WRT to identifying real criminals it can have a high type I error rate.

But it’s hard to estimate the size of these affects.

“effects”

I recognize the attempt at snark but it fails for me bcs I can’t see the point you might be trying to make.

I think each white murder needs to be analyzed – determine if the victim knew the murderer. Calculate a “degrees of separation” number. 1 being the two parties have been in the same room and knew each others name. 2 being, same room in the past, the victim did not know the killers name.

My guess is that in all murders, the degree of separation is very low. But especially so with white on white murder

i wonder who shot them…

“Shamar Duncan” is the suspect.

https://fox59.com/indiana-news/police-prosecutor-give-update-on-downtown-indianapolis-shooting-that-killed-dutch-soldier/

As Steve notes, Indianapolis has a lot of whites that wouldn’t be out of place in Appalachia who tend to be pretty low SES and getting into trouble is just part of the week’s entertainment. That said, I would guess a pretty high percentage of the white homicides were because of family disputes rather than Instagram disses or LARPing as one’s favorite rapper.

The lowest white homicide rate in a populous county in a red state is #91 Utah County (0.8), which is not home to Salt Lake City, but of Provo, site of BYU: i.e., it’s really Mormon

Not surprising but on the other hand when I worked in Utah my co-workers seemed to all have crazy stories of violent murders that had happened to a relative or neighbor. It was a bizarre undercurrent I have never felt elsewhere in the US. Maybe on the rare occasions when white Mormons do go crazy they really go batshit.

Somewhat OT, Steve – I’m surprised you’ve never dug into the blood feud between the Wagners and the Rhodens which resulted in the massacre of eight Rhodens in 2016. Shot in their beds. Took the State of Ohio four years to figure it out. The Wagners omerta held strong until they all got arrested and Jake decided he wanted to live even if it meant being in maximum security for the rest of his life. Then Angela pled and is testifying too. George IV participated but refused to shoot anybody and is apparently holding out for his ongoing trial. That seems really odd; wouldn’t the prosecutors already offer him an option for life? Nobody involved with this was ever going to walk.

Papa Wagner will be the last to be tried. Maybe he’s too stubborn or proud to take a plea. Or maybe the prosecutors want to hang at least one of them and won’t negotiate.

Apparently, the Wagners believed that Jake Wagner’s ex-girlfriend Hanna Rhoden’s boyfriends and possibly others were abusing Jake’s and Hanna’s daughter. Solution: kill Hanna, and kill every Rhoden who could contest them for custody of the daughter or could retaliate against them.

An astounding crime even by downscale white standards.

Marion County is almost devoid of all “nice whites.” Those almost exclusively live in the suburbs in neighboring counties. There are a few historic neighborhoods that border bad parts of town and a relatively small gentrifying downtown that have some upperclass whites.

The majority of whites that live there are hold overs from working class/lower class neighborhoods like speedway (home of the 500). The segregation isn’t nearly as severe as other places so more mixing or neighborhoods, I’d guess.

As a whole, Indiana is largely of German decent in the central and northern parts of the state. Some eastern european in the NW. probably more scotss-Irish in the southern hills and river country. Marion county whites are probably more of the latter while the wasps hold down those nice, affluent out-county suburbs.

With that said, as a former resident (long time ago) I’m a little surprised to see Marion County lead the list. It never struck me as exceedingly dangerous as far as cities go.

In general, white criminals seem to try to organize their activities to stay away from white criminals

Stay away from black criminals, surely?

That’s not downscale, that’s just white-trash.

Probably almost all by LEOs, and don’t tell me none of those are legitimate.

Why isn’t it Bay-har, as in Joy?

Damn, I gotta be nicer to the neighbors.

Whites don’t much get murdered by non-whites anymore? It may be just anecdotal stuff but your fellow Unzman “Paul Kersey” — stacked right under you there on the home page — never lacks for brutally scary material.

I’m guessing that the lower the white fraction of all the homicides in a county, the lower the percentage of whites killed by other whites. In Marion County, IN 18% of homicide victims were white, while in Tulsa, whites made up 39% of the victims in the county

For Tulsa, we have anecdata on the question of what fraction of white victims have a white killer.

The First 48 has filmed exclusively in Tulsa (city) for several seasons now. With ~30 episodes per year and sometimes 2 cases per episode that is a sizeable fraction of the total homicides in Tulsa. I’d estimate that white victims have a white perpetrator maybe 2/3 of the time, but someone in principal could do the tallying carefully. It appears that Tulsa city accounts for nearly 2/3 of the population of Tulsa county, and both are around 60% white, so probably not much different for the county as a whole.

I expected a solid showing from Los Angeles and environs, given all the bitter spouses and power-hungry business partners meticulously plotting to murder each other on Mannix.

And the odds of you getting away with it have never been better. Who knew that Sailer’s Sway (now there’s an image to conjure with) at ZeroHedge was high enough for them to provide background to his recent topics?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/getting-away-murder-us

Steve looked at this a couple of years ago, post Ferguson? Fewer than 20 unarmed blacks killed by police. More Whites killed than blacks.
Cops, ranked in order of most likely to shoot.
Black Women Cops
White Women Cops
Black Men Cops
White Men Cops

but you probably knew that, didn’t you?

when I worked in Utah my co-workers seemed to all have crazy stories of violent murders that had happened to a relative or neighbor.

There are blacks in Utah. There are even black Mormons. Were all of the stories about white Mormon perps? (OTOH, Mormons are pretty well armed, so if they chimp they have the means to do a lot of damage.)

Almost as astounding as the Adelson-Markel blood feud/custody battle in Northern Florida?

Kudos to the State of Ohio for cracking the case. The case in Florida is still clunking along, Southern Justice-style.

#13 Franklin (Columbus) and #33 Summit (Akron) Counties, Ohio, have many Appalachian refugees. The migration started early in both places, probably in the 1920s, so there are a lot of people three or four generations removed from the hollers.

The interesting thing about Franklin County is that there is a distinct Appalachian gradient running from high in the southeast (Reynoldsburg, Obetz) to low in the northwest (Dublin, Worthington). But this has moderated over the last 30 years with the rapid development of places like Groveport, where an influx of newcomers is diluting the older redneck element. There just aren’t enough people left in the depressed parts of Appalachia to continue feeding a northern movement.

I wouldn’t think Schuylkill Co, Penna. would have a lot of Scots-Irish left, but I could be wrong about that. That area was German first; the Scots-Irish showed up around 1720-30 but didn’t stay long. They kind of picked up en masse and headed for backcountry Virginia in the mid-1700s. I thought the anthracite miners in Penna were mostly Welsh and Eastern European.

So in Schuylkill County 9.6% of the population commits 83.7% of the murders. I suppose you can call that a pretty impressive over performance.

Pennsylvania is a “shall issue state” and Schuylkill county is a very rural area with many enthusiastic gun owners and hunters. There are probably more number of legal guns in their residential households then New York city with 40 times the population. It really is a case of people kill not guns. Hiking in the mountains with European students, worried looks as they hear gun shots from a shooting range, I reassure them “You’re safer here then in my neighborhood.”

The 5 largest ethnic groups in Schuylkill County, PA are White (Non-Hispanic) (90.4%), Black or African American (Non-Hispanic) (2.71%), White (Hispanic) (2.65%), Two+ (Non-Hispanic) (1.51%), and Other (Hispanic) (1.23%).

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/schuylkill-county-pa/

How reliable and or consistent are each county’s designation of perps/vics? There are still counties in the south that designate clearly mestizo hispanics as white in their blotters. An oh so inconvenient reality for Ron Unz and his age adjusted snake oil.

Indianapolis was the most dangerous place for pale people in the entire country?

Not in the the entire country, just among the top 100 white-inhabited counties. In other words, among the places where whites cluster the most, which one suffers the most homicide? Answer: Indianapolis.

And this list is by address of the deceased rather than by location of the homicide. I wonder how much different the list would be if it were by the latter? I guess the methodological problem is that then you would be comparing a list of where whites most die by homicide versus a list of where whites live, and then they wouldn’t be the same list. Still, there might be some interesting things you could do with that. It would be a way to remove from Steve’s OP list the places where residents are killed elsewhere even if their residences happen to be there, for instance. That would make counties that border much worse cities look less dangerous, I suppose.

“…Has to be <10 a year."

There are going to be more than that by law enforcement officers. Note these are homicide rates which don't distinguish between lawful and unlawful killings. Probably some lawful killings by civilians also. And there are a few unlawful killings, when I lived in Westchester there was a black guy killed by a white guy in an argument over parking.

What if you weeded out vehicular homicides (dui car crashes) and domestics and focused on gang, white supremacist, lone nut, or drug violence homicides, would the data look different?

They were just humble-bragging.

Why isn’t it Bay-har, as in Joy?

Isn’t that how “bear” is pronounced in Texas, accented on the first syllable?

Off-topic.

Looks like another academic career is about to come to an end.

The Culture Transplant: How Migrants Make the Economies They Move To a Lot Like the Ones They Left, by Garett Jones

In The Culture Transplant, Garett Jones documents the cultural foundations of cross-country income differences, showing that immigrants import cultural attitudes from their homelands―toward saving, toward trust, and toward the role of government―that persist for decades, and likely for centuries, in their new national homes. Full assimilation in a generation or two, Jones reports, is a myth. And the cultural traits migrants bring to their new homes have enduring effects upon a nation’s economic potential.

Built upon mainstream, well-reviewed academic research that hasn’t pierced the public consciousness, this book offers a compelling refutation of an unspoken consensus that a nation’s economic and political institutions won’t be changed by immigration. Jones refutes the common view that we can discuss migration policy without considering whether migration can, over a few generations, substantially transform the economic and political institutions of a nation. And since most of the world’s technological innovations come from just a handful of nations, Jones concludes, the entire world has a stake in whether migration policy will help or hurt the quality of government and thus the quality of scientific breakthroughs in those rare innovation powerhouses.

Where am I least/most likely to be randomly killed though no fault of my own

Least: In a cop bar.
Most: Going for a nice brisk morning walk across the street from section-8 housing.

In the case of Tulsa, where an unusually high 39% of homicide victims are white, I wonder how many “whites” in Oklahoma are really detribalized mixed blood Indians? And not in the Liz Warren sense but actual significant components of Indian DNA?

Tribal enrollment in America is a strange and arbitrary thing. Some people with very little (sometimes zero) Indian blood ended up on the tribal rolls (especially but not only after there was casino money in it) and other people with significant Indian blood crossed the color line and ended up being “white”.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre

These data are obsolete, but for 2019:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls
blacks constituted 17.1% of those who murdered whites, while whites made up 0.8% of those who murdered blacks.

I spent some time in Florida recently, and I’m not surprised that Florida counties are well represented on that top half of this list. Florida has this weird libertarian vibe that I think works for functional people. But unfortunately, a good portion of Floridians, and all races/ethnicities included here, don’t appear all that functional.

I’ll throw out a wildly irresponsible theory that Mr. Sailer may enjoy: Marginally functional whites tend to be serious fishermen, and Florida is a fisherman’s paradise that is also relatively affordable. Ergo, a lot of these folks reside in Florida.

My new favorite t-shirt phrase: What would Florida Man do?

Law and Order for me, but not for thee.

We saw what happened on Martha’s Vineyard.

I’m not sure I agree with this. A cop bar is still a bar where people get drunk and alcohol loosens inhibitions. 2nd, shooty type like to sleep in. Sometimes they may be out all night but once the sun come up, it’s bedtime for the denizens of the night so the morning is a good time to go for a walk near the projects.

OTOH, nothing good ever happens between midnight and sunrise. Lot’s of bad stuff but nothing ever good. If a story begins, “At 3:14 AM yesterday morning” then whatever follows is not going to be good.

Part of the way they make their world better is by making your world worse. Section 8, Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing, etc. are programs to export their undesirable population to your desirable location. Paid for with your tax dollars. So the “ladder-kicking” is not just symbolic, they’re really trying to injure you.

Spot on.

This is the most important thing going on in America, the most important thing to understand. They are doing it with crime and welfare policy, with cultural messaging and most importantly with immigration.

Biden has downloaded three+ million immivaders now and dumped them on deplorable flyovers. DeSantis called attention to this with his Martha’s Vineyard ploy … to much squawking. How dare he? It’s not the done thing. “Services aren’t available.”. The destruction by deludge is for you not them.

This is why we must raise the issue of separation. It isn’t the technical specifics or practicalities. The point is to raise–and hammer at–the core issue of the right to have our communties with our norms and values.

But after that we need to be honest. We whites are not in great shape and have a lot of work to do:
— restoring our traditional culture
and with that …
— returning to eugenic fertility.

In general, white criminals seem to try to organize their activities to stay away from white criminals, although some will mix with Latino criminals. On the other hand, lowlifes come together for various reasons, and somebody can wind up dead.

And thanks to what amounts to an unofficial police strike due directly to “defund the police” initiatives across the country (It’s okay, guys! From now on, we’ll just watch!) , your average murderer is far more likely to get away with it.

Democrats should change their party symbol from the donkey to a sexy pic of Sharon Tate.

https://www.statista.com/chart/28644/rate-of-homicides-that-go-unsolved-in-the-us/

But this episode could have been a campaign commercial for Lee Zeldin.

Producer Dick Wolf has a sense for the pulse of the country.

Americans are not happy.

Anything else that Lee Zeldin and Dick Wolf have in common?

What in the heck’s gotten into Newsweek?

It’s called “debate”. They’ve been running dueling guest columns for decades. Go back and look; this is probably adjacent to another the polar opposite.

Though their reaching out to RedState’s Jeff Charles is surprising.

@CityBureaucrat moment. https://t.co/iZEANR6ATf

— Horatius At The Gate (@HoratiusAtGate) November 5, 2022

sounds like they got the training they were looking for. i wonder who shot them…

As I vaguely recall, it was Blacks.

“the ‘We wuz Kangs’ sort of whites”

I’m beginning to suspect Steve believes the Scots-Irish are the We wuz Kangs sort of whites. He tends to use them as the violent white control group whilst pouring over homicide statistics with his Albion’s Seed goggles. This comparison betwixt the Scots-Irish whites and blacks is patently unfair by at least one metric: the Scots-Irish are much better shots. In terms of the use of violence the Scots-Irish are more controlled and directed than the sloppy, chaotic blacks. And if you don’t believe me how’s about I show up during your next visit to the grocery store.

now give us charts on excess deaths by county.

2022 is the third year in a row with significant excess deaths. Recall the panic over excess deaths in 2020, yet Steve is silent about excess deaths in 2021 and 2022. The funeral business is booming here in the US. the largest funeral operator in the US just reported record profits due to record numbers of funerals this year. 2022 will be the third year in a row with > 3.3 million US deaths

Why does Vermont have more excess deaths in 2022 than 2021 and 2020 ? what is going on in the whitest state ? They have almost zero homicides , yet excess deaths are higher than ever.

J.D. Vance would agree whole-heartedly. “Hillbilly Elegy” is a story of Appalachian immigrants to manufacturing centers in Ohio in the early 1900s. Those immigrants took their culture with them–and when the jobs left, the pathology of the culture was all that was left: poor work ethic, lack of impulse control, no inclination to save, a victim mentality.

Even while the jobs lasted, the behaviors he chronicled are those of, well, hillbillies. It is striking to me how similar are the honor cultures of blacks and the Scots-Irish.

Also, re: Indianapolis. That is my hometown–I lived there or in the northern counties on and off for half of my life. A white is very likely to be murdered by a black in Indy. There was a series of home invasions in the rich northern Marion County suburbs in the early 2000s, including a murder–not perpetrated by whites. The victims I personally know of were murdered by blacks.

“Mormons … they really go batshit”

The Mormons have heretical sects that create desert communes in Utah, Arizona, and the Mexican hinterlands where a man can have as many 14 year old brides as he can handle. Mainstream Mormons are management types that serve the deep state well in the FBI and domestic CIA operations. Elon Musk will eventually be tended to by Mormon physicians in a Las Vegas penthouse suite whilst other Mormons skim the cash intake in the count room.

Pretty neat that in all the social metric one can think of, the best large grouping of blacks can barely pull even with the worst large grouping of whites.

The highest income blacks pull even with the lowest income whites on SAT scores. Same for odds of going to jail.

The best large counties for black murder rate pull even with the worst white counties.

Which other social metrics should we check? Out of wedlock births? Personal bankruptcies? Drug overdose deaths? Breast and prostate cancer?

Pretty neat that in all the social metric one can think of, the best large grouping of blacks can barely pull even with the worst large grouping of whites.

Well, just look at it this way.

The “Systemic Racism” America faces today is from the media/educational/government Narrative Complex pretending to the public that your statement above is both meaningless and false.

It’s interesting to compare these white American murder rates to Canadian rates. Winnipeg, Regina and Thunder Bay all have high rates due to drunken Indians, so throw them out. Infamous rough-and-tumble fighting towns include Hamilton and Oshawa and they have the feature of being 80+ percent white. Both of their murder rates are comparable to Lee County, Florida so I guess Ft. Myers retirees aren’t beyond poppin-a-cap on people who park their golf carts in the wrong place.

” whites don’t get murdered by nonwhites very often anymore,”

are you kidding us?

“Part of the way they make their world better is by making your world worse. Section 8, Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing, etc. are programs to export their undesirable population to your desirable location.”

I see the process first hand at work, and sadly, I contribute to it. All throughout the more desirable suburbs of Chicago, corporate owned “luxury apartment” complexes are being erected. These are quite literally section 8 housing projects. Once complete, negroes straight from the city move into places where prior to those SC’s being constructed, their section 8 allotments weren’t high enough to allow them into the area. But now places like Naperville, Orland Park, Arlington Heights – all formerly only within the reach upper upper middle class incomes, are now being heavily populated with feral negroes.

There are some towns that have been able to deny the construction of these apartment projects – Lisle and Channahon are two townships that I know of – but it’s just a matter of time until those places are sued into accepting hordes of useless blacks.

To put that into perspective, it’s around 1 or less in mainly white countries ….. 0,26 in Japan and 0,16 in Singapour

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5/rankings

Yeah no way is a cop bar the safest place to be. More likely is senior bingo at a Lutheran church in rural Minnesota.

returning to eugenic fertility

Reg Cæsar‘s upthread question about where the cutoff to the top 100 white counties is got me interested enough to download some 2010 census numbers. (Are they still counting 2020? I couldn’t find those data by county and race at census.gov. BTW Reg, the 2010 cutoff is 390k.) The data were divided by sex (the Census hasn’t gotten the memo about 57 genders or whatever, thankfully), and it was apparent that the sexes weren’t evenly balanced geographically. So, as a public service to white—or other—readers who want to mate with whites, here is a synopsis of the US counties with most “extra” white women and white men. (“White” here means non-Hispanic white, as defined by the Census Bureau.) Hey, News You Can Use!

LEOs

“LEOs”? You mean cops?

Seriously, who the fuck talks like this? You’re one of those guys that gets out of the shower to piss, aren’t you?

In PG county Md-a grocery store security guard was shot and killed by a female shoplifter the other day–he manage to return fire and she also died–not sure of races involved but I can guess as it was PG Co–a DC suburb, And it was a grocery store with armed security!

Interestingly, there are a full-blooded Indians in Oklahoma who have no tribal affiliation because they don’t have enough blood from any one tribe to qualify as a member (or so I’ve heard).

Not only that, but cops know they can get away with murder. If Phil Brailsford was acquitted, there’s literally nothing a cop won’t be acquitted for.

OT: French National Assembly deputy Grégoire de Fournas was suspended for two weeks and has had half his salary docked for two months, the most severe punishment handed down to any deputy for years – all over nothing.

While a black deputy was discussing what should be done with a boatload of immigrants, de Fournas said, “Qu’il(s) retourne(nt) en Afrique”. This could mean “Let him/them/it [i.e. the boat] go back to Africa”. De Fournas said he meant the immigrants. This was almost certainly the truth. But to no avail. The session was shut down immediately and a storm of hysterical hatred was unleashed.

Here’s a real black swan event for you. White girl stabs black boyfriend to death, while hurling racist slur at him.

“That’s not quite what it’s saying.”

Statistical analysis is the method used by rational right-brained white men to figure out the world. Casting doubt on the numbers invites chaos, followed by a return to entrail-reading. Do you see, white man, how fragile is your reality?

The ones that ultimately matter:

TFR, T-level, Sperm counts, territory effectively ruled, that kind of thing.

She’s an onlyfans “model” i.e. hooker. If your girlfriend is a hooker you’re pretty much a pimp. He didn’t deserve what he got, but the guy should have known better than to shack up with a prostitute.

What’s with some blacks admiring pimps anyway? Doesn’t pimping mean you’re a professional cuckold? I’ve always thought of pimping as the most demeaning thing a man could do, aside from being a prostitute himself.

Because pimps are so inherently worthy of scorn and disrespect, they end up with women who prefer being dominant in the relationship, hence the need for pimps to resort to violence to keep women in line.

Women left behind by men seeking fortune in the newer economy? Women demographically widowed by opioids?

It’s women ditching their small towns, cities and suburbs and rushing off to the big city to find adventure, romance and … crush their fertility. To be “That Girl” or have “Sex in the City”.

The general patterns here were counties with most ‘excess’ white men were either hosting military bases or were digital economy nerd zones.

or homo zones.

Los Angeles does surprise me though, as I’d thought that was another place young women ran off to in droves. I’ve probably seen too many movies. Maybe there still a big defense industry skew. Or maybe it’s just a whole lot more homo than just “the gay Jews run Hollywood”.

No late twist that the perp actually was a white guy wearing a rubber mask?

Not guilty!

Mainstream Mormons are management types that serve the deep state well in the FBI and domestic CIA operations.

Mormons are clean-living, so they tend to pass the security clearance process well. Many of them are also bilingual or multilingual from their missionary work, so are ideal for overseas postings. Catholics have a mafia in the FBI, from the days when Catholics used to be clean-cut types.

“let it be”………..now there’s a cop that will make retirement, smart.

It’s almost impossible the build good housing now without a fairly high, government defined, %age of “affordable” (by government definition) housing. This is in the city as well as the suburbs.

OT – electric car scam summed up in one minute:

https://vidmax.com/video/215741-the-electric-car-scam-summed-up-nicely-in-less-than-a-minute

…from the days when Catholics used to be clean-cut types.

Some of us still are. Was that a dig at Comey and Mueller? Or perhaps Biden and Pelosi? Those four I’ll definitely not defend. Or any Kennedy or Daley.

Cops at a bar might be off-duty, but they are situationally aware, especially when it comes to the critical thing – – noticing who is entering. This keenness, alertness, is their training and life’s work; they can’t help it; and actually, don’t want to. They are not just guys squirming because of their uncomfortable gun bulges. They’ve got me. I’m safe now. The usual disclosure…I am old…a lot of things have changed.

Without the lockdowns we have no George Floyd riots across the nation. The COVID hysteria resulted in thousands of protests in the summer of 2020, as young Americans had been locked up for months, with all schools, clubs, sport venues, beaches and churches had been shuttered. With all normal social activities being banned for months Americans were only allowed to gather and socialize at the thousands of protests. The pent up anger was allowed to be expressed at the protests.

Unlike the 2014 BLM protests which were restricted to one metro area, the 2020 protests were held in hundreds of cities across the nation. This was due to the pent up frustrations and civil unrest created by the clampdown which put millions of people out of work and made normal socializing impossible, as indoor gatherings of over ten people were banned and people were forced to wear masks to further alienate Americans and create social upheaval, isolation, anxiety and outrage. With no jobs and no schools to attend Americans had nothing better to do than to attend protests. It was the only venue for large gatherings of Americans….thus the protests spread and attracted millions of Americans to vent their anger. Thus the Ferguson effect spread nationwide due to the clampdowns which allowed Americans to protest in huge numbers, while all other gatherings of people were banned.

An interesting question is what fraction of that 7.2 rate in Indianapolis were killed by other whites? In general, I’d of course say, “Most.”

This is a fascinating question.

I’ve been thinking about it on an off for years.

Here are some reasonable assumptions, IMHO:

The fraction (call this “f(x)”) is somewhere between 100% and the White Share of Homicides (I’ll call this “x”); and of the two, usually closer to 100% than x.

When x = 100%, f(x) is essentially 100%. When x = 80%, f(x) is very close to 100%.

The closer x is to 100%, the more (100% – f(x)) “shrinks” to zero. Let’s call this shrinkage factor “g(x)”, where g(x) = 1 when x = 0, and g(x) = 0 for x = 100%.

To make things simpler, for 100%, put 1.

Here’s a guess: g(x) = (1 – x)(1 -x)

So, (1 – f(x)) = (1 – x)g(x) = (1 – x)(1 – x)(1 – x)

So, f(x) = 1 -((1 – x)(1 – x)(1 – x))

That’s just an initial guess. It’s probably too high; but perhaps it can be plugged in to Bayes’ Theorem as a prior.

Sorry for the notation. Doing this on my phone.

J.D. Vance would agree whole-heartedly. “Hillbilly Elegy” is a story of Appalachian immigrants to manufacturing centers in Ohio in the early 1900s. Those immigrants took their culture with them–and when the jobs left, the pathology of the culture was all that was left: poor work ethic, lack of impulse control, no inclination to save, a victim mentality.

Misread of the situation. People have been leaving Appalachia for 100 years, and about the only ones left are those who can’t leave. We’re talking the bottom 10-20% of the population. No surprise that fraction will be dysfunctional, and in a way that exaggerates the vices and neglects the virtues of the larger group, which in the case of rednecks means liquor, pills and fights instead of independence and bravery.

Vance’s subjects are actually a second group of Appalachian left-behinds, who made it to the industrial cities but couldn’t or wouldn’t move on when they went bust. It’s not often noticed, but Vance’s mother was born in Ohio and his grandparents lived in Ohio most of their lives.

There are Scots-Irish all over the country by now, and most of them are just regular issue whites like their neighbors. Does anyone have stats on Scots-Irish as a whole and not just the ones who still live in Appalachia?

Whoops, I mean it’s probably too low.

The real share is probably between 100% and my initial f(x).

Vegas filled up with a lot of transients during the construction boom years in the late 90s, then a lot of trash who got priced out of California, especially around the LA/So Cal areas during the housing bust in 09. Now with legal weed and a trashy NFL team, it’s gotten inherently more ghetto. I was there for 4 days in 2019, pre-covid, and it was about 3 days too many for me.

How about rape? I mean,just out of curiosity, heh.😉

pimping mean you’re a professional cuckold

How does mindcontrolling women while making them pay you most of what they make equate to cuckoldry? I’d imagine they’d just have a non-whore maingirl for the sexual aspect as well.

Los Angeles County is 2.8. I wonder how many of these are Armenians, Russians, Persians, and other recent immigrants. I suspect the rate for third generation Americans is closer to 1.2 like Orange County.

Based on purely anecdotal evidence, I would hazard that a significant portion of white murder victims in Indianapolis were killed by blacks. Your VDARE colleague, “Paul Kersey” has documented a number of such cases over the last few years.

Some of us still are.

Indeed, I included. But these days orthodox Catholics are not representative of self-declared Catholics at large in this country.

Important Update!

Puzzling over the mystery of the Rust Belt women, above, I decided to check the age cohorts of the surplus men and women. It turns out that while restricting the age cohorts to the 15-39 prime fertility window makes almost no difference for men, it completely overturns the result for women! Apparently those Rust Belt women were those who outlived their men but can’t afford or don’t want to retire to the Sun Belt.

So where the young white wimmenz at? Read on…

county • state • ‘extra’ white women • white women as % of white men • notes
New York County • New York • 16934 • 110.6% • Manhattan
District of Columbia • District of Columbia • 6243 • 109.5% •
Suffolk County • Massachusetts • 5865 • 106.6% • Boston
Kings County • New York • 5017 • 102.6% • Brooklyn
Hampshire County • Massachusetts • 3606 • 115.0% • Amherst, lesbian mecca
Davidson County • Tennessee • 3562 • 104.4% • Nashville
Marion County • Indiana • 2437 • 102.7% • Indianapolis
Orange County • North Carolina • 2388 • 112.9% • Chapel Hill
Guilford County • North Carolina • 2166 • 105.7% • Greensboro
DeKalb County • Georgia • 2105 • 105.7% • metro-Atlanta
New Hanover County • North Carolina • 1963 • 106.8% • Wilmington
Harrisonburg city • Virginia • 1794 • 120.9% • Shenandoah Valley
Boone County • Missouri • 1783 • 106.1% • Columbia
Pitt County • North Carolina • 1686 • 109.4% • Greenville
Jefferson County • Alabama • 1678 • 103.2% • Birmingham
McLean County • Illinois • 1593 • 106.4% • Bloomington
Multnomah County • Oregon • 1547 • 101.5% • Portland
Philadelphia County • Pennsylvania • 1522 • 101.4% •
Essex County • Massachusetts • 1486 • 101.9% • metro-Boston

The first observation here is that almost all of these places are east of the Mississippi. Apparently the West is still too Wild as far as young women are concerned. Second observation is that blue city skankopolises have deep reserves of young white women: NYC, DC, Boston, Portland, Philly, etc. NYC by itself dwarfs the rest of the list.

But there is also a heretofore undetected seam of redstate women in the central and southern Piedmont: Nashville, Chapel Hill, Greensboro, DeKalb, Wilmington NC, Harrisonburg, Greenville NC, Birmingham. Finally, there are few semi-obscure flyover daisies: Indianapolis, Columbia MO, Bloomington IL. Outside of the metropolises, it seems young white women cluster around second- or third-tier college towns.

Okay, you have the intel, now you can go forth and multiply!

OT I wonder what class it is that personal trainers take which enables them to tell a father he’s never going to see his kids again.

Wow, cope. You’re not her only one = total satisfaction of all requirements re cuck. Oh, but she pays you her money? You call yourself a man and you depend on a chick for income? This is one of those situations where everything is wrong.

What a great commentary on the stupidity and bigotry of filthy,dirty,stinking “civil rights activists!”
They shriek like LeBron over the poor innocent dindunuffins shot by police. And they scream like banshees about getting rid of white men,and hiring more black women,to make the police more yada yada yada.
How would you like to be pulled over on a dark street in Nairobi? As compared to,say,Iowa City?
I wonder about Asians. Are they less likely to shoot,being more contemplative? Or do they freak out like strong black wahmens and let loose?

Have you ever met a pimp? They are whores’ whores. He (or she) who pays the piper calls the tune.

A lot of men just can’t imagine that women have any agency in their relationship with a pimp, but it’s painfully obvious that they do. For one thing, they can pick up the phone, call the police, and have the guy arrested on felony charges at any time, and cops would be happy to oblige.

So why don’t they? It’s because these women like having the ultimate control over the man in their life. They like it so much they’re willing to put up with a beating every now and then just like a woman who loves horses won’t give up her passion because of a silly little kick that broke a few ribs or knocked out some teeth.

At his very best, a pimp can negotiate with a client on behalf of his whore master. But when it comes to other men that’s the absolute limit of his power. He is the lowliest of slaves: a slave to women.

Don’t fall for the sob stories from professional hookers. Teenagers, maybe, but be cautious there as well because the root of attraction to pimps among teen girls is often a desire to defy their fathers, which is a bad sign.

Personally I pity pimps. They are among the most shameful results of fatherlessness. Still, despite the pity, I think they deserve strict criminal penalties to demonstrate to young men how inverted, inappropriate and demeaning it is to engage in that activity.

A lot.

It happens.

Everyone kills everyone.

Whites kill blacks, blacks kill whites, vice versa.

America has a lot of crime, that is the problem.

The election on Tuesday is going to be interesting.

Stolen.

The election on Tuesday is going to be stolen.

I think where they can identify the race of perpetrator and victim, about 4% of all homicides feature a non-black perpetrator and a black victim. (Uniform Crime Reports). My guess would be that north of 1/3 of those perpetrators are mestizo.

But Los Angeles whites are particularly well-behaved in the 21st Century due to high rent having cleared out the riff-raff.

And now the riff raff is just camping on the streets while young middle/working class whites are all gone.

“Après moi, le déluge” should be the new California state motto.

“Have you ever met a pimp? They are whores’ whores. He (or she) who pays the piper calls the tune.”

I have and that’s not been my observation at all. In fact, the reverse.

“A lot of men just can’t imagine that women have any agency in their relationship with a pimp, but it’s painfully obvious that they do. For one thing, they can pick up the phone, call the police, and have the guy arrested on felony charges at any time, and cops would be happy to oblige.”

Right. Some whore who may well have a drug problem and warrants out for her own arrest is going to call the cops to arrest her pimp. And the cops will be happy to oblige with the arrest, resultant paperwork, etc. because they don’t have any more serious criminals to arrest.

“So why don’t they? It’s because these women like having the ultimate control over the man in their life.”

No, it’s because these gals get the agency knocked out of them early on. (I’m talking streetwalkers, not high dollar escorts.). I have never heard a whore talk about having control over any man in her life. Mostly, they seem to wish they had enough self-control to get out of their situation.

“Don’t fall for the sob stories from professional hookers. Teenagers, maybe, but be cautious there as well because the root of attraction to pimps among teen girls is often a desire to defy their fathers, which is a bad sign.”

I’ve never fallen for their sob stories. But I found the bruises, trips to the ER, etc. pretty convincing. The girls I’ve known out there didn’t want to defy their fathers. They wanted to find someone who would treat them as badly as their fathers did. Mostly, they succeeded in that, if nothing else.

You don’t understand what cuckoldry entails. The pimp’s not in love with the whore; he’s manipulating her emotionally and physically to take her money. Maybe he’s sleeping with her, maybe not, but she’s an asset on a balance sheet. Like one particular location of a small gas-station chain.

OT:

University of Chicago offers course on “The Problem of Whiteness”

https://dailycaller.com/2022/11/02/university-chicago-offer-class-whiteness-critical-race-theory/

I’ve never fallen for their sob stories. But I found the bruises, trips to the ER, etc. pretty convincing

Ah, so you listened to their stories. I used to do that, too. I tried to help some of them out. I knew them personally — and not as a John. Guess what? As soon as I got them what they needed (e.g. medical care, a ride to the Suboxone clinic, groceries, clothes for the kid and some assurance to the CPS worker breathing down their neck) they ran right back to the lifestyle that suited them.

These women choose their lifestyle; that much is clear. They have a multitude of alternative options yet they don’t choose them because they like being in charge despite not having the ability to take care of themselves. They live a parasitic lifestyle out of pure self-indulgence and make fools out of the rest of us. Pimps are just their pathetic omega male enablers — I’ve said it to their faces and their “bitches” made them stand down. Humiliating!

Btw, the girls who run off with pimps don’t usually have abusive fathers — they have absent fathers. Whether it’s because the guy is working all the time, his wife dumped him, or he’s a real deadbeat ( not usually the case with white guys), he just isn’t there much. So the little girl is (understandably) mad at the world. But even so most girls who take it that far are disordered.

You really want to credit subliterate, animalistic pimps with sweeping them off their feet with psychological manipulation? What a misfortune to have such a stupid daughter that would be, but clearly there’s more to it than that.

I lived in Las Vegas for many years and am not surprised to see it rank high. It’s like a melting pot of troubled people from all the place. Then they get even more dysfunctional after moving there. It’s the epitome of “a great place to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there”.

Thanks, but I think you dropped a decimal place on whites killing blacks.

OTOH, 1) some number of those “whites” are actually Hispanics, and 2) they’re only counting about half of the homicides.

I can’t believe you people thinking a pimp can manipulate a woman who is a professional manipulator of men. Then why can’t he manipulate any woman he wants? Why can’t a pimp just come in and lay waste to any marriage?

Whores get off on manipulating men; pimps are just one of their tools. Pimps are subordinate to whores. Like I said on another post, a pimp has no honor — you can insult him to his face and he’ll take it if his whore master orders him to do so. I’ve done this with impunity because I’ve never been a John and hookers know they’ve got nothing on me.

Less than 5 a year. Find me a legit story of it happening. It ain’t.

I’m thinking I have to start explaining the underclass to reading people. I’ll make it my next project, along with the philosophy stuff that interests me most.

So much misinterpretation of the reality at ground level. I actually like these people (too much for my own good), but my solutions to their problems would probably sound really mean to those who don’t know what’s going on. So I guess I should start explaining a few things. Mansplaining, as they say. Who would pay attention otherwise?

Thanks,
Basically, chances of being killed by a crazy white guy, just offhand, are slim, like whites don’t do a whole lot of drive by’s but what happens when we put all those white guys into venues of color? That’s what the police have been trying to do. Mix the races together. Most likely won’t work, but why do it in the first place? One group will always try to outdo the other, that’s why diversity is violence.

As an example…Whites either become like blacks or die off. As whites would be the weaker.

Thanks. I’ve been saying this for decades, and it seems like the most obvious thing on earth. Import third-world people, import third-world practices and attitudes.

Few here will be surprised by this notion, but the goodwhites I have known are thrown nearly into cardiac arrest.

Hey, that gives me an idea.

Marginally functional whites tend to be serious fishermen

Do you mean that serious fishermen tend to be marginally functional whites? That might make more sense, but even then I’m somewhat skeptical.

Frankly neither way makes much sense. Maybe “some number of marginally functional whites enjoy fishing.”

Arrr, still not getting it.

One punk rock star killed another in a fight over a girl in a parking garage.

Some female journalist once asked why they are always porn stars. Was this guy really a star, or is punk the musical counterpart to skin flicks?

We whites are not in great shape and have a lot of work to do

So long as control of the flow of information remains in enemy hands, the task will remain insurmountable.

And they won’t give it up willingly, because everything they have stolen relies on their mastery of propaganda and prevarication.

So, how can this ever change? Well, it’s possible that one man has just spent $44 billion on an experiment. Yes, he’s allowing the ADL to help him with the moderation. Ridiculous? What if he’s just doing that for (very effective) window dressing, with plans to boot them out next month?

All that being said, it’s hard not to think that Bezos got a better deal buying the Washington Post. What did that cost, $95?

Google says this.. Okay I was slightly off..

The paper has flourished under Mr. Bezos’ ownership. Since he bought the newspaper in 2013 for $250 million, The Post has added over 200 people to its newsroom, which now numbers 900 journalists, and won plaudits and awards for its coverage of, among other subjects, the Trump administration.

Whores, at least the class of whores with pimps, aren’t professional manipulators of men. They sell the sexual act.

I occasionally have street-walkers come into my place of business. They aren’t capable of manipulating men; not physically attractive enough. Luckily for them they don’t have to manipulate anyone.

A pimp can’t just come in and lay waste to any marriage. He can maybe run a mind-game on some chick with an emotionally-distant father, maybe. Or just get his girls hooked on drugs.

The attractive waitress at the Chili’s/Applebee’s/TGI Friday’s is more capable of manipulating men than the average whore.

Why are (were?) you in a pimp’s face to insult him?

People have been leaving Appalachia for 100 years–so exactly the time Vance’s predecessors left Appalachia.

His grandparents and mother and Vance himself went back and forth between KY and OH. He calls it the hillbilly highway.

The point is that there is a Scots-Irish way of being that persists long after relocation occurs. The worst aspects of it are as Vance describes. The best of it is partly captured in books like Albion’s Seed and American Nations.

The hypothesis is that demographic cohorts carry their behavioral traits with them for centuries. So yes, while the SI have spread, where they are concentrated, many of their behavioral traits persist. While the authors of books like Albion’s Seed and American Nations ultimately reject the SI demographic, it is the population that fuels our military and resists authoritarianism. I am a proud citizen of SI America–even with half of my bloodline coming from pacifist groups like the Mennonites.

Florida man.

I find the idea of cultural identities persisting over time very interesting. To keep it away from the toxic black demographic, I like to look at the Scots-Irish. I find it hard to argue that there is not a genetic component. Anecdotally, I look at myself and my immediate family. My worst impulses (to vengeance, violence, total annihilation of my enemies) don’t track back to my Mennonite paternal grandmother’s side, I am confident.

His grandparents and mother and Vance himself went back and forth between KY and OH. He calls it the hillbilly highway.

In West Virginia, they say the three Rs are reading, ‘riting, and the road to Ohio.

Florida serves as America’s colostomy bag.

“Ah, so you listened to their stories. I used to do that, too.”

Yes, they were my neighbors. I chatted some with some of them.

“I tried to help some of them out. I knew them personally — and not as a John. Guess what? As soon as I got them what they needed (e.g. medical care, a ride to the Suboxone clinic, groceries, clothes for the kid and some assurance to the CPS worker breathing down their neck) they ran right back to the lifestyle that suited them.”

I never helped any of them out, except once I held onto some cheap turquoise jewelry for one when she went into the hospital. I’m sympathetic but not inclined to waste time and resources on the hopeless and helpless.

The Rotherham style of management strikes me as finding very young females from a poor AND unstable/latchkey background (both are necessary, and the latchkey element’s probably more important), paying attention to them, giving them drugs, and then putting them to work.

I think it was Mother Jones who ran a series about underage females getting turned out in America. One girl (who cut a sweet deal on a murder charge coming out of a home-invasion robbery) came from a married, two-parent home. Both made good money. As bartenders, so they were gone a lot.

She met some hood-rats, started turning tricks, and then it really bad.

No one ever accused 13-17 year-olds of having good judgment.

East coast cities have some tough, macho white guys. Seattle and San Fran, maybe not though.

Word from Philly,nine shot outside A bar.No idea about the race.😆

I wouldn’t say that necessarily L&O leans left – while they are looking for the great white defendant, the show is also very pro-police and prosecutors.

The Adelson-Markel feud is a ridiculous mishmash of Jewish and Latino-mystery meat dealings. It always surprises me how stupid and cheap actual hitmen are.

Yes, you’re right.

It’s 8.4%.

Strange, calculator made the same mistake twice, as I calculated for the first time. It was suspicious to me, but it gave 0.0084….twice.

It always surprises me how stupid and cheap actual hitmen are.

Even stupider are the people who hire them. They think getting some lowlife criminal to do the dirty work will protect them from any legal consequences. Needless to say, when the hitmen get caught, the first thing they do is give up whoever paid them.

Rotherham was about exploitation of the vulnerable.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal#Murder_of_Laura_Wilson

In 2012 Rotherham Council applied to the High Court for an injunction to stop Norfolk publishing an unredacted version of a serious case review written after the murder of a local girl, Laura Wilson.

Known in the review as “Child S”, Wilson was 17 in October 2010 when she was stabbed 40 times and thrown in the canal by her 17-year-old ex-boyfriend, Ashtiaq Asghar, an act the police called an “honour killing”. She had had a baby four months earlier by a 21-year-old married man. The families of the men, both Pakistani heritage, had apparently been unaware of the relationships and the existence of the child. Tired of being a secret, Wilson decided to tell them. Days later, the ex-boyfriend murdered her. Both men stood trial; the older man was acquitted, and Asghar was jailed for 17 years and six months.

Assessed as having an IQ of 56 and a reading and spelling age of 6, Wilson had been the target of localised grooming from at least age 11. The council had referred her to Risky Business three months after her 11th birthday, and when she was 13, Wilson and her family had appeared on The Jeremy Kyle Show to discuss children who were out of control. She had also been mentioned in the 2009 criminal inquiry that led to the first five convictions arising out of localised grooming in Rotherham.

Money-wise, it’s all lunatic.

https://www.celebritynetworth.com/list/top-50-richest-celebrities/
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Rihanna Net Worth….. $1.7 Billion

Kim Kardashian Net Worth…..$1.4 Billion

Paul McCartney Net Worth….. $1.2 Billion

Peter Jackson Net Worth …. $1 Billion

P Diddy Net Worth …. $900 Million

Kylie Jenner Net Worth … $750 Million

Tom Cruise Net Worth …$600 Million

Dr Dre Net Worth …. $500 Million

Mick Jagger Net Worth …. $500 Million

Brad Pitt Net Worth … $300 Million

But there is also a heretofore undetected seam of redstate women in the central and southern Piedmont: Nashville, Chapel Hill, Greensboro, DeKalb, Wilmington NC, Harrisonburg, Greenville NC, Birmingham. Finally, there are few semi-obscure flyover daisies: Indianapolis, Columbia MO, Bloomington IL. Outside of the metropolises, it seems young white women cluster around second- or third-tier college towns.

Thanks, and I was about to point out that many of these are college towns, but you got that too.

Many if not most colleges in the United States are now 60+ percent female. I miss college sometimes.

When you consider how manically Hollwood has been promoting violence and gunplay for decades now, it’s surely notable how few white guys have signed on. Are white guys genetically impervious to the brainwashing? Or are they just not very violent?

Are you specifying “non-Hispanic white”?

Yeah, I used the “NHWA_MALE” and “NHWA_FEMALE” codes, which the Census defines as “Not Hispanic, White alone” (“alone” meaning not mixed race).

https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/popest/technical-documentation/file-layouts/2010-2018/cc-est2018-alldata.pdf

L.A. has a lot of illegal immigrant sojourners making money who skew highly male.

Yeah that was my immediate thought at seeing the big male surpluses in LA, Las Vegas, and metro-Miami: “obviously Latino migrants”. But then I remembered that I had already filtered for non-Hispanic. Maybe there’s a subset of Latin Americans migrants who don’t identify themselves as “Hispanic” on government forms, either because they (erroneously) assume it will somehow disadvantage them or because they just don’t understand the the forms? Not all campesino migrants are literate. But then Miami Hispanics tend to be more Caribbean and South American than the Central Americans who dominate Southwestern migration, so it seems less likely they would log the same errors.

Otherwise, Los Angeles County’s male excess is likely gay.

That was AnotherDad’s hypothesis too. I admit it hadn’t occurred to me.

One way to test—or at least create a reference for—the hypothesis is to look at the census tracts for “pure play” gay zones, like Provincetown, Fire Island, and Key West, to see how pronounced is the male skew. It is slightly baffling that women would be disproportionately attracted to the bright-lights-big-city of cold and dangerous New York, Boston (okay, Boston’s not that dangerous), and DC, yet not to warm and sunny LA and Miami. Or maybe they do go to sunshine, but their numbers are overwhelmed by gays seeking hedonism? I mean, NYC, DC, and Boston have a certain amount of gay clustering too, right? So why are they overwhelmed by young women in those towns?

Altogether it’s an odd pattern that I can’t think of any clear and consistent explanation for.

Spielberg is at the top, with Lucas:

George Lucas Net Worth … $10 Billion

Steven Spielberg Net Worth … $8 Billion

Oprah Winfrey Net Worth … $3.5 Billion

For Kanye West, data are confusing: according to the list, he’s $4 Billion & if we look at his page, it’s “only” $1 Billion.

Anyway, he’s 2 or 8 times richer than Mick.

But, what is evident: rapper garbage & trashy reality show celebrities are way richer than entertainers who made a historical-cultural impact like Paul McCartney and Mick Jagger.

Then, there is one thing I find even more confusing: James Watson is the richest scientist, worth $ 20 Billion (most of the rest are also in medical technology & similar fields).

https://bscholarly.com/richest-scientists-in-the-world/

1. JAMES WATSON: James Watson is the world’s richest scientist with a net worth of $20 billion.

https://egscholars.com/2022/04/16/top-10-richest-scientists-in-the-world/

James Watson is the richest scientist in the world with a net worth of $20 billion. Watson is an American biologist, geneticist, and zoologist who is best known for his work on the double helix structure of the DNA molecule. He earned his degrees at the University of Chicago in 1947 and a Ph.D. from Indiana University in 1950.

But- how is this possible?

Founded a company? No. He’s not an entrepreneur.

If he’s so filthy rich- why that circus about selling his Nobel medal?

Why aren’t McCartney, Jagger, and Cruise the richest entertainers?

When was the last time you or anyone you know spent any money on anything McCartney- or Jagger-related? There are a lot of young (and often colored—or is it “of color”) people spending a lot of money on Rihanna/Kardashian/Jenner stuff right now.

I did buy a ticket for that Cruise jet movie. You’d think he’d rate a little higher. OTOH he’s had a couple of divorces, which get expensive.

Where’s Spielberg?

The list seems to focus on in-front-of-the-camera/public-eye type of people rather than producers/directors/machers, even if the former do a certain amount of what the latter do.

Real question is where is Ye? Oh wait, now I remember …

Like I say, having a lot of male yuppies walking around is good for street safety. I can recall noticing when watching Chicago local news that when they interviewed some hero bystander who’d rescued somebody from some disaster, the modal hero was some 28 year old white guy who talked like a Big Ten grad who probably had been in a fraternity: basically, Haven Monahan avant la lettre.

And that guy eating chips in the middle of a domestic dispute on the NYC subway. Dollars to donuts he was from the Midwest.

ETA: he’s from Rhode Island. I owe everyone doughnuts.

Former Rhode Island state wrestling champion

Researching this, every page included magic negroes in ads.

That’s amazing about Watson. Does he have patents or something? I too thought he was strapped for cash when he sold his Nobel medal.

I can’t think of a time when I didn’t have neighbors who were trading sex for money, except maybe the time I lived next to a golf course, but there my neighbors were too old for that, so some may have done it in the past. Some of my childhood friends’ mothers did it, too. It wasn’t something we talked about, but these things are kind of hard to hide.

It’s a lot more common than people admit, which makes me wonder whether it shouldn’t just be decriminalized. One of my neighbors is an onlyfans worker and fairly open about it. Sometimes she comes out to water the plants in her getup leaving next to nothing to imagination. She’s nuts, but she’s actually fairly functional compared to some of the others — at least she doesn’t have kids and keeps a low profile. Naturally, she has a boyfriend/pimp — a fairly nice but always down in the dumps black guy (yeah, it must be depressing to be hitched to a hooker). I really pity the guy.

I had a girlfriend years ago whose neighbor was a real crack whore. She’d even do her thing in the driveway in guys’ parked cars. No shame whatsoever… Her boyfriend/pimp? Another depressed black guy who ended up hanging himself. I saw him get wheeled out under a sheet.

There is nothing glamorous about being a pimp. My hunch is that most pimps are themselves the sons of prostitutes and take on the role out of a sense of fatalism. Others probably just end up in that situation because they don’t have the guts to leave a relationship in which the girlfriend insists on being a whore. I once saw a girl throw a tantrum when her boyfriend confronted her about “dating” older men. She tossed his clothes out the window and threatened to call the cops.

Neighbor

Argument over above-mentioned neighbor’s pit bull got personal.

Can you confirm these are _non-Hispanic_ whites?

I’d be happy to send you the spreadsheet. I could have done the whole thing in spreadsheets, which are easier to audit, but I used MS Access to speed the thing along. Are you familiar with Access?

The data source is a single 42 megabyte file called “cc-est2021-all.csv”, available here:

https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/popest/datasets/2020-2021/counties/asrh/

BTW, did you use 2020 census numbers for your lists, and if so, where did you get them? In spite of being expensively designed, the Census website is not very clear. I had better luck finding things using a third-party search engine on the site.

It’s a little embarrassing using 12-year-old data when we just had a new census.

Richard Florida years ago published a list of where the men are at for the benefit of women in which California coastal cities ranked high, but I pointed out that it was basically a list of cities with a lot of illegal aliens.

Perhaps his hidden agenda was to facilitate anchor marriages for illegals?

would it be possible to boost the minimum age to 18 or so?

As shown in the Census’s code document,

https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/popest/technical-documentation/file-layouts/2010-2018/cc-est2018-alldata.pdf

the ages are in five-year buckets, so you can include or exclude the 15-19 year-old range together. Excluding them might de-emphasize the college towns somewhat.

I can imagine being lit up for, seemingly, trying to marry off minors.

I understand, but what about your 16-year-old boy readers? They need girlfriends too.

Actually, 25-34 is a pretty good age range as well in that guys interested in this ranking will likely not be that young.

Code “6” and “7” in “AGEGRP”.

Indeed, ranking places with excess women 35-44 might be salutary to younger women in Manhattan considering whether to accept that proposal from their current boyfriend who wants to move to the suburbs or hold out for Mr. Big who will furnish them with the limousine lifestyle in Manhattan.

Lol. Code “8” and “9” in “AGEGRP”.

If we’re getting down to more perishable 10-year age ranges, it makes me even less happy with the 12 years out-of-date census numbers. Is the computerized Census Bureau even slower at counting things than the California Board of Elections? I gotta think those 2020 numbers are out there somewhere. OTOH, maybe 2020 would be distorted by pandemic/lockdowns? College students at their parents’ homes instead of college towns, etc.?

rapper garbage & trashy reality show celebrities are way richer than entertainers who made a historical-cultural impact like Paul McCartney and Mick Jagger.

Oh, rapper garbage & trashy reality show celebrities are having a historical-cultural impact alright alright …

No one said “impact” had to be good.

Don’t forget that an older generation looked at McCartney and Jagger then the way you look at rappers and reality show celebrities now.

James Watson is the world’s richest scientist with a net worth of $20 billion.

Big, if true. And surprising.

Fragmented doesn’t begin to describe it. Country-rap is a viable genre despite no terrestrial radio play (and the sort of iconography you’d associate with working-class white guys from the South).

The soundtrack to “Drive” spawned an entire microgenre of music (that’s probably big enough now to be a niche genre).

Except in the Markel case, the hitman did not. Neither did the liaison between the hitman and the Adelson family. It was the old friend the hitman asked along as a companion that cracked. They also got some leads from Wendy Adelson’s disaffected bf. (He adored her, but contact with brother Charlie and the whole mise en scene in the Adelson family persuaded him to get away from her). The court system in Florida has been remarkably otiose in processing the case and it’s only recently that the police and prosecutor concluded they had enough to bring charges against Charlie. There is evidence implicating Donna Adelson, but evidently not enough in their judgment. The role Harvey Adelson and his daughter played in the business remains a question mark, though they’re certainly covering for Donna and Charlie. (The oldest of the Adelson children lives in Albany, NY with his family and has been estranged from them since around about 2004).

Why do you live next to whores? I get cheap rent, but some things aren’t worth being around.

Don’t forget that an older generation looked at McCartney and Jagger then the way you look at rappers and reality show celebrities now.

If you say so. The people of that vintage in my circle weren’t the sort who bought Beatles records, but they weren’t bothered by them.

“Blue Americans think red Americans are maniacs with all their guns and their calls for law and order, while red Americans think blue Americans are insulated and don’t understand the need for law and order.”

For my part, I think blue Americans are either stupid, ignorant or evil.

Would love to see pictures and names of the “white” murderers. I’m sure many if not most are what would be commonly seen as European-Americans, but I’d bet a significant number are Middle Eastern or Hispanic.

Metro is the new LAPD–not enough cops, so they rule by swift, overwhelming, and decisive violence.

people of that vintage in my circle

What vintage is that?

In any case, not everyone of Bardon Kaldian’s generation today looks at rappers and reality show celebrities as he does.

How many anglo whites kill blacks in a non justifiable homicide every year? I’m guessing 2 at most. Am I wrong?

It’s almost impossible the build good housing now without a fairly high, government defined, %age of “affordable” (by government definition) housing. This is in the city as well as the suburbs.

But, for some reason, never in Malibu or Martha’s Vineyard. Funny how that works.

My wife and I lived in a city in the South for a few years when we were first married. It’s where we bought our first house. It was a solidly middle class neighborhood when we lived there – not upper middle, not lower middle, just “middle middle.”

We happened to be passing through there a few years ago and drove by the old place to show the kids. We had to roll up the windows and lock the doors. We looked like a white family that gets terribly lost at the beginning of some horror movie. The nearby mall had been shuttered, and the whole commercial district looked like it had been leveled by a WW1 artillery barrage.

I spoke to an old neighbor about it and he said that basically the Section 8’s came in and just wiped the place out. It was a great, affordable community for honest, middle class Americans trying to start their families – completely devastated.

My boss when we lived there was a hardcore lefty, to the point of being literally a card carrying member of the ACLU. His son was kicked out of the honors program at a local high school. If his son had stayed in the non-honors program at the same school most of his classmates would have been black. So instead he sneaked the kid into a mostly white high school that wasn’t even in the same district. I’m not sure how he did that – a family member or ex-wife lived there, I think. But we – including our black colleague – especially our black colleague – joked about it in the office behind his back. Our boss was an ass.

Not long after the George Floyd riots started my wife had a Facebook exchange about the BLM riots with a white friend who still lives there. This friend was all in favor of the BLM protests. Of course she lives in a very white part of town. Her oldest son is very active in far left politics. Then last year her husband was killed by a black drunk driver with a criminal record as long as War & Peace. They have three kids. If it were some random stranger of course I would laugh about it. But since I know her and know that she’s a genuinely good woman I just feel awful for her and her family.

But my feelings for the rest of these hypocrites has turned to hatred. My tolerance for them wanes by the nanosecond.

Perhaps in the US, but elsewhere -no.

In the 60s and the 70s, 80s, …many people outside of teen & counter-cultural movements found Beatles to have catchy, melodious tunes & hummed them.

In Europe, Soviet Union (if they could), South America, many parts of Asia. They liked them, people in- then- their 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s,….

Which is completely dissimilar to the rap crap situation.

Rap is present for at least 2-3 decades, I don’t know.

And no one, virtually no one outside of the group that listens to that “music” has even heard of top five rappers & cannot recognize a single rap “song” (to call it that).

So, to compare rap with the 60s-70s pop-rock is not realistic.