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From the NYT:

BALTIMORE — A police officer was acquitted of all charges on Monday in the arrest of Freddie Gray, a black man who sustained a fatal spinal cord injury while in police custody. The verdict is likely to renew debate over whether anyone will be held responsible for Mr. Gray’s death.

The officer, Edward M. Nero, sat with a straight back and stared forward as Circuit Judge Barry G. Williams, who ruled on the case after the officer opted to forgo a jury trial, read his verdict on charges of second-degree assault, misconduct and of reckless endangerment.

“The verdict on each count,” said Judge Williams, concluding his reading after about 30 minutes, “is not guilty.”

“The state’s theory has been one of recklessness and negligence,” Judge Williams said. “There has been no evidence that the defendant intended for a crime to occur.”

Officer Nero, who was implicated not in the death of Mr. Gray but in the opening moments of his arrest, then stood and hugged his lawyers as supporters pressed forward to congratulate him.

Another fiasco …

The cases against even the black cops in the Freddie Gray story aren’t very good, but the white cops were indicted just to muddy the waters to provide some misleading optics to imply it’s not just a black vs. black story.

 
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  1. Edward M. Nero….I hope his police union contract covers legal expenses covered or he is out $50,000 or more. What a farce. Freddy was a slip and fall scam artist. And his family won the ghetto lottery, they got a six million dollar payout from the city.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Clyde

    Generally they will. It also helps to have liability insurance just in case.

  2. This Freddy Gray thing seems to have cooled down, do people even remember that far back anymore? Will there be more riots?

    • Replies: @penntothal
    @27 year old

    The Baltimore Sun website has several "banners" that divide the home page into sections.

    There is a "National News" banner, a "Maryland News" banner, "Sports", etc.

    They have had an entire "Freddie Gray" banner section for "in-depth Freddie Gray coverage" on their website every day since the incident occurred.

    Think about the absurdity of devoting an entire section of the newspaper, every day, for over a year, to this pathetic case.

    Replies: @Barnard

    , @oh its just me too
    @27 year old

    as Steve points out, there will be a whole bunch of inflammation going from NGOs/the left, to get blacks out to vote- racist white cops shooting trayvon and his skittles - come election time MSM will be scanning every police incident and try to spin it into the kkk/cossacks ride again

    If the right were as sinister or Machiavellian , a great strategy would be for the police to stand down.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @RadicalCenter

    , @anonymous-antimarxist
    @27 year old

    Haven't you heard???

    Soros's next step is to finance the "BLM" the Broadway Show featuring Saints Trayvon, Big Mike the Gentle Giant, Tamir Rice, Sam Dubose, Freddy Gray.....

    A few years from now forget "South Pacific" or "West Side Story" every SJW/SWPL dominated HS will be doing "BLM" as the HS Musical.

    Replies: @IVY, @Hrw-500

  3. Hi Steve,

    Was just doin a Ctrl F on your pages for your take on Sheldon Adelson endorsing and financing Donald Trump.-couldnt find anything I am very much interested on your analysis

    Regards

    • Agree: gruff
    • Replies: @Joe Walker
    @Dr Van Nostrand

    Adelson just wants to make sure that, if Trump becomes president, he can claim that his endorsement made it possible.

    Replies: @antipater_1

    , @International Jew
    @Dr Van Nostrand


    your take on Sheldon Adelson
     
    Maybe the $100 million that Adelson has pledged is actually a mortgage on Trump's casinos.
  4. . The verdict is likely to renew debate over whether anyone will be held responsible for Mr. Gray’s death.

    I hold Mr. Gray responsible.

    So let’s all acknowledge that and be satisfied and move on.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Anonymous


    I hold Mr. Gray responsible.

    So let’s all acknowledge that and be satisfied and move on.
     
    LOL! Hilarious!
    , @Wally
    @Anonymous

    I couldn't agree more. Gray played and he paid.

    Good call.

    , @athEIst
    @Anonymous

    Looks like the taxpayers are being held responsible, about $6,000,000 responsible.

  5. The judge that exonerated Nero was black, and the judge’s decision was extolled by the Gray family attorney as well as by the black female mayor of Baltimore. There were some protesters who were angry that they weren’t allowed to “take part” in the trial.

    There was another trial back in December, of a black officer named Porter, that was declared a mistrial after a hung jury.

    Two whites and two blacks (including a black woman) remain to be tried, I hope those work out, too. Right now, Judge Barry G. Williams looks like the guy they want to have assess their cases.

    • Replies: @dr kill
    @SPMoore8

    There is another bright side to the Gray bullshit. CSNY are going to cut a live version of - One Dead in Baltimore - the album is called - One Way Street-

  6. res says:

    The cases against even the black cops in the Freddie Gray story aren’t very good, but the white cops were indicted just to muddy the waters to provide some misleading optics to imply it’s not just a black vs. black story.

    Any idea why this verdict came first? It really seems sometimes like the powers that be are trying to start a race war. I wonder how the protesters will react if any black cops are/not convicted (regardless of the merits of each case of course).

  7. Glossy says: • Website

    OT: There is a right-wing, nationalist electoral trend both in Europe and in America. But in real-life terms the left-wing trend continues – the number of third-worlders in Western countries keeps growing, WWG and WWT were resounding successes, feminism marches on.

    What happens when two opposing forces run up against each other? A collision, sometimes an explosion. It’s like two accelerating trains running towards each other on the same track.

    What would an explosion look like in the modern West? Military coups, terrorist campaigns that are not motivated by Islam. That stuff could come back.

    In most countries most military and police officers are politically conservative, but that doesn’t mean that there won’t be any left-wing coups. In fact it is the right that’s doing better and better at the polls now. So the left would have an incentive to counter that with violence. And there HAVE been left-wing military coups in the past.

    • Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist
    @Glossy

    And there HAVE been left-wing military coups in the past.

    No surprises there. Tocqueville noted how in many countries the military often acts as a liberalizing force. In the developing world, quite a few progressive authoritarians, like Qaddafi and Nassar, have come out of the military.

    Replies: @Bill

    , @Anonym
    @Glossy

    Anti-immigrationism is anti-immigrationism... and that's the real trend. Anti-PC is part of that trend. Anti-Islam is strongly associated. Then there are trade issues, perhaps less strongly associated. The rest of the policies are I think fairly orthogonal or maybe should be. Maybe they determine left or right, to the extent it is a valid concept.

    But go back far enough in history and you can't even make left and right work as someone here so validly pointed out. The fault lines were religion, race or maybe something else.

    Replies: @Glossy

    , @AnotherDad
    @Glossy


    OT: There is a right-wing, nationalist electoral trend both in Europe and in America.
     
    The trend does seem to be there, but it isn't winning yet. Austria, after a year in which it got a clear, front-row-seat view of how it will be ripped apart by left-establishment-globalism, failed to elect to the Freedom Party right winger to its presidency. (It was razor close--which says something--so I suppose the men voted against their national destruction, but the West gave women the vote and now has to listen to them.)
    , @Paul Mendez
    @Glossy


    What happens when two opposing forces run up against each other?
     
    Read about the last few years running up to the start of the Spanish Civil War.

    Both sides get increasingly radical. Centrist are forced to take sides. Politics becomes focused on nothing more than destroying your opponents. Anger boils over in the streets. Eventually, somebody in a position of power decides it's time to "take charge."

    Replies: @Glossy, @International Jew

    , @Bill
    @Glossy


    In most countries most military and police officers are politically conservative
     
    I wonder. How long can you pay people to defend America's ugly social order before the only people you have defending America's ugly social order are the kind of people who will take money to defend America's ugly social order?
  8. I figured BLM was supposed to be another Trayvon-style election turnout operation for the Democrats but it appears to be imploding too quickly to make it to November.

    I had wondered though if the Democratic convention in Philadelphia, only 90 miles from Baltimore, was going to be affected by this case (one way or the other, if not BLM antics, then maybe Philadelphia cops catching the “blue flu” during the convention week). The convention is already looking like it’ll be a spectacle with Sanders refusing to drop out. (Unlike the Republican one, despite the wishes and hopes of the political press. Democrats falling in love (or not) and Republicans falling in line, the historical pattern, seems to be bearing out this year.)

    • Replies: @TWS
    @Thomas

    That's why there are six trials.

  9. @Dr Van Nostrand
    Hi Steve,

    Was just doin a Ctrl F on your pages for your take on Sheldon Adelson endorsing and financing Donald Trump.-couldnt find anything I am very much interested on your analysis

    Regards

    Replies: @Joe Walker, @International Jew

    Adelson just wants to make sure that, if Trump becomes president, he can claim that his endorsement made it possible.

    • Replies: @antipater_1
    @Joe Walker

    "Adelson just wants to make sure that, if Trump becomes president, he can claim that his endorsement made it possible."

    That's almost certainly correct. Adelson made the pilgrimage from Las Vegas to Trump Tower in NYC. Trump did not go to Las Vegas.

  10. I think the Duke case has, in a way, actually encouraged reckless and politically motivated prosecutions like this. Why? Because Mike Nifong was only sentenced to one day in jail…by the same judge he duped and lied to in the Duke case. Even though the case against Nifong was very strong.

    The legal profession, even in extreme cases (like Duke), doesn’t come down hard on their own. Possibly because they’ve all done a “Mike Nifong” at some point in their careers? I don’t know. Alan Dershowitz said Angela Corey would/should face the same fate as Nifong in the Trayvon case, but no such thing happened.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @J1234

    Nifong was disbarred.

    Replies: @J1234, @Bill

    , @woodNfish
    @J1234


    The legal profession, even in extreme cases (like Duke), doesn’t come down hard on their own. Possibly because they’ve all done a “Mike Nifong” at some point in their careers? I don’t know.
     
    The legal system is totally corrupt and it is systemic from the very bottom - cops - to the very top - the SC.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    @J1234

    J1234, as @anonymous pointed out Nifong was disbarred and is now named in a multimillion dollar civil action,

    Replies: @antipater_1, @J1234

  11. Too many Blacks try to resist or escape arrest. While trying to do so, some of them get killed. This was such a case.

  12. The narrative just keeps breaking down. The Freddie Gray case was initially packaged by the MSM as another example of police brutality against a harmless black citizen. Just the predictable type of incident the DNC house organs of the MSM like to headline during an election year, designed to stoke the sense of grievance and alienation among the black community so they’ll get good and fired up to turn out in force in November and vote for you know who. Except…. half of the cops involved were black, which mirrors the racial composition of the Balamer PD. Also, the mayor, the chief of police, the DA, and the judge who acquitted Nero are also black. The first trial (of a black officer) ended in a hung jury. Now the second trial has resulted in an acquittal. Hmmm – maybe it’s time to flush this egregious example of racial injustice down the old memory hole.

  13. @J1234
    I think the Duke case has, in a way, actually encouraged reckless and politically motivated prosecutions like this. Why? Because Mike Nifong was only sentenced to one day in jail...by the same judge he duped and lied to in the Duke case. Even though the case against Nifong was very strong.

    The legal profession, even in extreme cases (like Duke), doesn't come down hard on their own. Possibly because they've all done a "Mike Nifong" at some point in their careers? I don't know. Alan Dershowitz said Angela Corey would/should face the same fate as Nifong in the Trayvon case, but no such thing happened.

    Replies: @anonymous, @woodNfish, @Buffalo Joe

    Nifong was disbarred.

    • Replies: @J1234
    @anonymous


    Nifong was disbarred.
     
    True, but mostly irrelevant, as there isn't a huge demand for attorneys who have their mugshots widely publicized (unless they were arrested for opposing apartheid, or something.)
    , @Bill
    @anonymous

    So what? Are you trying to say that is sufficient punishment?

  14. Hillary is basically forced to keep on defending the BLM idiots, which can only help Trump…

    • Agree: NickG
  15. @Clyde
    Edward M. Nero....I hope his police union contract covers legal expenses covered or he is out $50,000 or more. What a farce. Freddy was a slip and fall scam artist. And his family won the ghetto lottery, they got a six million dollar payout from the city.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    Generally they will. It also helps to have liability insurance just in case.

  16. @SPMoore8
    The judge that exonerated Nero was black, and the judge's decision was extolled by the Gray family attorney as well as by the black female mayor of Baltimore. There were some protesters who were angry that they weren't allowed to "take part" in the trial.

    There was another trial back in December, of a black officer named Porter, that was declared a mistrial after a hung jury.

    Two whites and two blacks (including a black woman) remain to be tried, I hope those work out, too. Right now, Judge Barry G. Williams looks like the guy they want to have assess their cases.

    Replies: @dr kill

    There is another bright side to the Gray bullshit. CSNY are going to cut a live version of – One Dead in Baltimore – the album is called – One Way Street-

  17. Black judge, by the way.

  18. This is actually the best possible outcome for BLM – it plays into their narrative that white cops can act with impunity against unjustly targeted black men. As with most things for the left, it’s not the outcome that matters but how useful the process is politically.

    I will be curious to see how the administrative review goes against him. Will the powers that be find he acted appropriately and can return to his job (and basically sanctify his innocence) or will they dismiss him and position Nero to sue the daylights out of the city?

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Arclight

    Remember that after the LA cops were acquitted in the Rodney King police brutality case, the HW Bush administration had the officers charged with federal civil rights violations--with most (but not all) of them convicted. So there's still plenty of room (and time) for more stirring up of the BLM crowd.

    Replies: @fish

    , @J1234
    @Arclight


    This is actually the best possible outcome for BLM
     
    But BLM is part of the reason Trump is doing so well. Far more Americans are put off by their insanity than inspired by it. So the more noise they make, the more appealing Trump is to white voters on the sidelines.
  19. @Glossy
    OT: There is a right-wing, nationalist electoral trend both in Europe and in America. But in real-life terms the left-wing trend continues - the number of third-worlders in Western countries keeps growing, WWG and WWT were resounding successes, feminism marches on.

    What happens when two opposing forces run up against each other? A collision, sometimes an explosion. It's like two accelerating trains running towards each other on the same track.

    What would an explosion look like in the modern West? Military coups, terrorist campaigns that are not motivated by Islam. That stuff could come back.

    In most countries most military and police officers are politically conservative, but that doesn't mean that there won't be any left-wing coups. In fact it is the right that's doing better and better at the polls now. So the left would have an incentive to counter that with violence. And there HAVE been left-wing military coups in the past.

    Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist, @Anonym, @AnotherDad, @Paul Mendez, @Bill

    And there HAVE been left-wing military coups in the past.

    No surprises there. Tocqueville noted how in many countries the military often acts as a liberalizing force. In the developing world, quite a few progressive authoritarians, like Qaddafi and Nassar, have come out of the military.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @yaqub the mad scientist

    Meritocratic institutions are always suspect that way, whether they be the military or the church. Highly able, driven, chip-on-shoulder individuals high up in important institutions are bad for maintaining the social order.

  20. @J1234
    I think the Duke case has, in a way, actually encouraged reckless and politically motivated prosecutions like this. Why? Because Mike Nifong was only sentenced to one day in jail...by the same judge he duped and lied to in the Duke case. Even though the case against Nifong was very strong.

    The legal profession, even in extreme cases (like Duke), doesn't come down hard on their own. Possibly because they've all done a "Mike Nifong" at some point in their careers? I don't know. Alan Dershowitz said Angela Corey would/should face the same fate as Nifong in the Trayvon case, but no such thing happened.

    Replies: @anonymous, @woodNfish, @Buffalo Joe

    The legal profession, even in extreme cases (like Duke), doesn’t come down hard on their own. Possibly because they’ve all done a “Mike Nifong” at some point in their careers? I don’t know.

    The legal system is totally corrupt and it is systemic from the very bottom – cops – to the very top – the SC.

  21. OT

    The Austrian election. And those strange votes by mail…

    • Replies: @oh its just me too
    @reiner Tor

    oh there's going to be a lot of 'strange' votes like that coming soon....

    , @Anonymous
    @reiner Tor

    Leading by 6 points just ten days before election. Leading by almost 4 points before postal ballots count. Losing in the end by 0.7 points. That ought to be enough to at least raise a suspicion. Yet, everywhere in the West everyone keeps acting like electoral fraud can never happen. Hello, hello, that assumption is no longer safe. It certainly happens - only question to what extent. Why would not they press for the recount?

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Bill, @Pericles

  22. @27 year old
    This Freddy Gray thing seems to have cooled down, do people even remember that far back anymore? Will there be more riots?

    Replies: @penntothal, @oh its just me too, @anonymous-antimarxist

    The Baltimore Sun website has several “banners” that divide the home page into sections.

    There is a “National News” banner, a “Maryland News” banner, “Sports”, etc.

    They have had an entire “Freddie Gray” banner section for “in-depth Freddie Gray coverage” on their website every day since the incident occurred.

    Think about the absurdity of devoting an entire section of the newspaper, every day, for over a year, to this pathetic case.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @penntothal

    Today it says "Nero Trial." The Sun is heavily invested in the case for two reasons, the first is that as long as public interest is stoked it will help drive sales and page views. The second being it is run by Social Justice Warriors. Check out this editorial from them today. I think even William Lloyd Garrison would tell them to dial it back.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-nero-verdict-20160523-story.html

  23. @27 year old
    This Freddy Gray thing seems to have cooled down, do people even remember that far back anymore? Will there be more riots?

    Replies: @penntothal, @oh its just me too, @anonymous-antimarxist

    as Steve points out, there will be a whole bunch of inflammation going from NGOs/the left, to get blacks out to vote- racist white cops shooting trayvon and his skittles – come election time MSM will be scanning every police incident and try to spin it into the kkk/cossacks ride again

    If the right were as sinister or Machiavellian , a great strategy would be for the police to stand down.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @oh its just me too

    You act like they haven't been, though the cucked right nearly had a stroke when the NYPD gave their backs to De Blasio.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @oh its just me too

    Couldn't blame the police for steeping aside at the last minute, or not coming to work at all, and letting protestors outside the Dem convention, get INSIDE the convention en masse.

    Now THAT would be good TV.

    Let them direct their hatred, intimidation and violence at each other instead of against white people, Asian people, Christians, conservatives, libertarians, and traditional families for a change.

  24. @reiner Tor
    OT

    The Austrian election. And those strange votes by mail...

    Replies: @oh its just me too, @Anonymous

    oh there’s going to be a lot of ‘strange’ votes like that coming soon….

  25. O/T

    The ‘Eagles of Death Metal’ interview in Takimag has created a lot of waves. The band were dropped from French festivals in the wake of the article, which in itself is drawing criticism from those on the Right, such as in this Spectator article-

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/05/western-liberals-who-banned-eagles-of-death-metal-are-doing-isiss-dirty-work/

  26. @Anonymous

    . The verdict is likely to renew debate over whether anyone will be held responsible for Mr. Gray’s death.
     
    I hold Mr. Gray responsible.



    So let's all acknowledge that and be satisfied and move on.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Wally, @athEIst

    I hold Mr. Gray responsible.

    So let’s all acknowledge that and be satisfied and move on.

    LOL! Hilarious!

  27. @oh its just me too
    @27 year old

    as Steve points out, there will be a whole bunch of inflammation going from NGOs/the left, to get blacks out to vote- racist white cops shooting trayvon and his skittles - come election time MSM will be scanning every police incident and try to spin it into the kkk/cossacks ride again

    If the right were as sinister or Machiavellian , a great strategy would be for the police to stand down.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @RadicalCenter

    You act like they haven’t been, though the cucked right nearly had a stroke when the NYPD gave their backs to De Blasio.

  28. “but the white cops were indicted just to muddy the waters to provide some misleading optics to imply it’s not just a black vs. black story.

    I have to respectfully disagree with that characterization. Yes, the white cops were indicted to muddy the waters. However, that was specifically to imply it was another white cop on black citizen story.

    I think that’s an important distinction. No white cops means the “institutional racism” argument, the Ferguson metaphor, falls apart.

  29. @Glossy
    OT: There is a right-wing, nationalist electoral trend both in Europe and in America. But in real-life terms the left-wing trend continues - the number of third-worlders in Western countries keeps growing, WWG and WWT were resounding successes, feminism marches on.

    What happens when two opposing forces run up against each other? A collision, sometimes an explosion. It's like two accelerating trains running towards each other on the same track.

    What would an explosion look like in the modern West? Military coups, terrorist campaigns that are not motivated by Islam. That stuff could come back.

    In most countries most military and police officers are politically conservative, but that doesn't mean that there won't be any left-wing coups. In fact it is the right that's doing better and better at the polls now. So the left would have an incentive to counter that with violence. And there HAVE been left-wing military coups in the past.

    Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist, @Anonym, @AnotherDad, @Paul Mendez, @Bill

    Anti-immigrationism is anti-immigrationism… and that’s the real trend. Anti-PC is part of that trend. Anti-Islam is strongly associated. Then there are trade issues, perhaps less strongly associated. The rest of the policies are I think fairly orthogonal or maybe should be. Maybe they determine left or right, to the extent it is a valid concept.

    But go back far enough in history and you can’t even make left and right work as someone here so validly pointed out. The fault lines were religion, race or maybe something else.

    • Replies: @Glossy
    @Anonym

    Without looking it up, I think that the left vs. right terminology arose during the French Revolution. At that time the people who called themselves the left were anti-clerical, in many cases astheist. The right was religious. That's still true. So there is some consistency to these terms.

    200 years ago the right was associated with monarchy and the aristocracy. Those things are almost entirely gone from Western political life - that was a victory of the left.

    Replies: @Anonym

  30. @penntothal
    @27 year old

    The Baltimore Sun website has several "banners" that divide the home page into sections.

    There is a "National News" banner, a "Maryland News" banner, "Sports", etc.

    They have had an entire "Freddie Gray" banner section for "in-depth Freddie Gray coverage" on their website every day since the incident occurred.

    Think about the absurdity of devoting an entire section of the newspaper, every day, for over a year, to this pathetic case.

    Replies: @Barnard

    Today it says “Nero Trial.” The Sun is heavily invested in the case for two reasons, the first is that as long as public interest is stoked it will help drive sales and page views. The second being it is run by Social Justice Warriors. Check out this editorial from them today. I think even William Lloyd Garrison would tell them to dial it back.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-nero-verdict-20160523-story.html

  31. “The state’s theory has been one of recklessness and negligence,” Judge Williams said. “There has been no evidence that the defendant intended for a crime to occur.”

    Is criminal intent a necessary element to recklessness and negligence?

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    @Anonymous

    Correct. It isn't. He is saying the prosecutions case did not rely on intent. But they failed in proving even criminal recklessness or negligence. The case against Nero was flimsy. He didn't make the decision to give chase, his superior did. He didn't cuff Gray. He wasn't responsible for his transport.

    , @jon
    @Anonymous

    The standard for recklessness is usually "knew or should have known."

  32. @Arclight
    This is actually the best possible outcome for BLM - it plays into their narrative that white cops can act with impunity against unjustly targeted black men. As with most things for the left, it's not the outcome that matters but how useful the process is politically.

    I will be curious to see how the administrative review goes against him. Will the powers that be find he acted appropriately and can return to his job (and basically sanctify his innocence) or will they dismiss him and position Nero to sue the daylights out of the city?

    Replies: @Forbes, @J1234

    Remember that after the LA cops were acquitted in the Rodney King police brutality case, the HW Bush administration had the officers charged with federal civil rights violations–with most (but not all) of them convicted. So there’s still plenty of room (and time) for more stirring up of the BLM crowd.

    • Replies: @fish
    @Forbes


    So there’s still plenty of room (and time) for more stirring up of the BLM crowd.

     
    A variable that they probably don't want to introduce during what is shaping up to be an....unusual...election cycle.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas

  33. @J1234
    I think the Duke case has, in a way, actually encouraged reckless and politically motivated prosecutions like this. Why? Because Mike Nifong was only sentenced to one day in jail...by the same judge he duped and lied to in the Duke case. Even though the case against Nifong was very strong.

    The legal profession, even in extreme cases (like Duke), doesn't come down hard on their own. Possibly because they've all done a "Mike Nifong" at some point in their careers? I don't know. Alan Dershowitz said Angela Corey would/should face the same fate as Nifong in the Trayvon case, but no such thing happened.

    Replies: @anonymous, @woodNfish, @Buffalo Joe

    J1234, as pointed out Nifong was disbarred and is now named in a multimillion dollar civil action,

    • Replies: @antipater_1
    @Buffalo Joe

    But Nifong must almost certainly be broke. What can people get in a law suit against him?

    , @J1234
    @Buffalo Joe

    I unsuccessfully tried to edit my post to include the fact that he'd lost his law license because I knew this point would be brought up, but what difference does it make? What legitimate client would hire Nifong as a lawyer after this scandal? It would be like hiring Dr. Frankenstein to do your bypass. A few might, but not many.

  34. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @reiner Tor
    OT

    The Austrian election. And those strange votes by mail...

    Replies: @oh its just me too, @Anonymous

    Leading by 6 points just ten days before election. Leading by almost 4 points before postal ballots count. Losing in the end by 0.7 points. That ought to be enough to at least raise a suspicion. Yet, everywhere in the West everyone keeps acting like electoral fraud can never happen. Hello, hello, that assumption is no longer safe. It certainly happens – only question to what extent. Why would not they press for the recount?

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Anonymous

    The Scottish referendum was clearly rigged.

    Replies: @Lurker, @Pericles

    , @Bill
    @Anonymous

    Do you know if postal votes in Austria normally tilt left or right, relative to in-person votes?

    , @Pericles
    @Anonymous

    It seems evident the postal voters of Austria lean strongly to the left indeed. Whew, bit of luck there, eh?

  35. @Forbes
    @Arclight

    Remember that after the LA cops were acquitted in the Rodney King police brutality case, the HW Bush administration had the officers charged with federal civil rights violations--with most (but not all) of them convicted. So there's still plenty of room (and time) for more stirring up of the BLM crowd.

    Replies: @fish

    So there’s still plenty of room (and time) for more stirring up of the BLM crowd.

    A variable that they probably don’t want to introduce during what is shaping up to be an….unusual…election cycle.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    @fish

    Sure, but wait and see - we're not in the heart of the annual summer riot season yet.

    Replies: @fish

  36. Is there a way to donate to this guy after being dragged through the 15 minutes of hate? I can only find the gofundme that was removed by that SJW institution.

  37. @Anonymous
    “The state’s theory has been one of recklessness and negligence,” Judge Williams said. “There has been no evidence that the defendant intended for a crime to occur.”

    Is criminal intent a necessary element to recklessness and negligence?

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @jon

    Correct. It isn’t. He is saying the prosecutions case did not rely on intent. But they failed in proving even criminal recklessness or negligence. The case against Nero was flimsy. He didn’t make the decision to give chase, his superior did. He didn’t cuff Gray. He wasn’t responsible for his transport.

  38. I think the Duke case has, in a way, actually encouraged reckless and politically motivated prosecutions like this. Why? Because Mike Nifong was only sentenced to one day in jail…by the same judge he duped and lied to in the Duke case. Even though the case against Nifong was very strong.

    Nifong was publicly humiliated, disbarred, and given a criminal record. It’s probably less punishment than he deserved, but I doubt any cuck crusaders are looking on and thinking they’d like a helping of the same. Being disbarred alone is equivalent to hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines, no?

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Svigor

    An appropriate sentence would be the jail time for the offense he's trying to frame the boys for.

    Make that the standard for criminal law fraud and it would end pdq.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @jill
    @Svigor

    Nifong will never give up...

    "In “The Price of Silence: The Duke Lacrosse Scandal, The Power of the Elite, and the Corruption of Our Great Universities,” a book by William Cohan released in April 2014, Nifong said he still believes that Mangum was attacked in the bathroom at the party."


    http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2016/03/where-are-they-now

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @Jack D

  39. Glossy says: • Website
    @Anonym
    @Glossy

    Anti-immigrationism is anti-immigrationism... and that's the real trend. Anti-PC is part of that trend. Anti-Islam is strongly associated. Then there are trade issues, perhaps less strongly associated. The rest of the policies are I think fairly orthogonal or maybe should be. Maybe they determine left or right, to the extent it is a valid concept.

    But go back far enough in history and you can't even make left and right work as someone here so validly pointed out. The fault lines were religion, race or maybe something else.

    Replies: @Glossy

    Without looking it up, I think that the left vs. right terminology arose during the French Revolution. At that time the people who called themselves the left were anti-clerical, in many cases astheist. The right was religious. That’s still true. So there is some consistency to these terms.

    200 years ago the right was associated with monarchy and the aristocracy. Those things are almost entirely gone from Western political life – that was a victory of the left.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @Glossy

    Although I kind of wandered without summarizing, my greater point was that left vs right defines a somewhat arbitrary grab bag of policies that either clarifies or muddies understanding of politics. Historically speaking, it is a fairly recent division. In the case of anti-immigration the left/right schema mostly muddies. People here have started talking about alt-center or alt-left in addition to the alt-right, the alt being synonomous with to anti-immigration and anti-PC.

    I guess alt-right emerged as such because the old left has been destroyed by identity politics and so the only place anti-immigrationism could really emerge was from the "whom" (aka white people) the "who" were taking resources from via various means of wealth transfer.

    Replies: @NickG, @ben tillman, @Bill

  40. @27 year old
    This Freddy Gray thing seems to have cooled down, do people even remember that far back anymore? Will there be more riots?

    Replies: @penntothal, @oh its just me too, @anonymous-antimarxist

    Haven’t you heard???

    Soros’s next step is to finance the “BLM” the Broadway Show featuring Saints Trayvon, Big Mike the Gentle Giant, Tamir Rice, Sam Dubose, Freddy Gray…..

    A few years from now forget “South Pacific” or “West Side Story” every SJW/SWPL dominated HS will be doing “BLM” as the HS Musical.

    • Replies: @IVY
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    Can you work Hamilton into that mix to capture the essence of 2016 nonsense?

    , @Hrw-500
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    If the SJW/SWPL's BLM the musical features folks who look like Carl the Cuck, Aids Skrillex, Big Red and Trigglypuff. They'll have to paid some people to be spectators for their musical who'll became instant internet memes.

  41. @fish
    @Forbes


    So there’s still plenty of room (and time) for more stirring up of the BLM crowd.

     
    A variable that they probably don't want to introduce during what is shaping up to be an....unusual...election cycle.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas

    Sure, but wait and see – we’re not in the heart of the annual summer riot season yet.

    • Replies: @fish
    @Alec Leamas

    Not saying they won't freelance something.....I just think the "Eye of Soros" will remain closed until after the election.

  42. @Glossy
    OT: There is a right-wing, nationalist electoral trend both in Europe and in America. But in real-life terms the left-wing trend continues - the number of third-worlders in Western countries keeps growing, WWG and WWT were resounding successes, feminism marches on.

    What happens when two opposing forces run up against each other? A collision, sometimes an explosion. It's like two accelerating trains running towards each other on the same track.

    What would an explosion look like in the modern West? Military coups, terrorist campaigns that are not motivated by Islam. That stuff could come back.

    In most countries most military and police officers are politically conservative, but that doesn't mean that there won't be any left-wing coups. In fact it is the right that's doing better and better at the polls now. So the left would have an incentive to counter that with violence. And there HAVE been left-wing military coups in the past.

    Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist, @Anonym, @AnotherDad, @Paul Mendez, @Bill

    OT: There is a right-wing, nationalist electoral trend both in Europe and in America.

    The trend does seem to be there, but it isn’t winning yet. Austria, after a year in which it got a clear, front-row-seat view of how it will be ripped apart by left-establishment-globalism, failed to elect to the Freedom Party right winger to its presidency. (It was razor close–which says something–so I suppose the men voted against their national destruction, but the West gave women the vote and now has to listen to them.)

  43. Freddy got what he deserved and so did Officer Nero. The cops put him safely on his face, his arms and legs shackled, in the back of the wagon–safer, in fact, than had they seat-belted him, as he would have been able to (and would have) pounded his head against the wall. His hustle from the start–it’s why he ran–was to get arrested, then injure himself, then get a settlement from the city. Too bad for him, but he got his settlement from God. How else to explain the one-in-a-million shot by which he managed to plant his head EXACTLY on that projecting screw, when the van accelerated and the standing fool went sailing through the air?

    OTH, the Gray family, who got $6 mil from the city at the same time they got rid of their 18-felony- arrest bad seed, must be the luckiest folks on earth.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas
    @Otto the P

    I don't know if anybody is going to follow the family's subsequent activities but what are the odds that they use the settlement proceeds to move on up out of Sandtown to a pristine, overwhelmingly white and low crime suburb of Baltimore?

    Replies: @antipater_1, @Jack D

  44. “15 minutes of hate,” I love it. “In the future, every white will get his 15 minutes of hate.”

    • Replies: @Dirk Dagger
    @Svigor

    15 minutes for white girls too: Former NBA player Etan Thomas gets shut down by white devil girl on a train and tries to “shame her” on Fakebook.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @anonymous
    @Svigor


    “15 minutes of hate,” I love it. “In the future, every white will get his 15 minutes of hate.”
     
    My 15 minutes should have ended in 1960. Yet it keeps on going. Who do I call to get them to stop?
  45. @Otto the P
    Freddy got what he deserved and so did Officer Nero. The cops put him safely on his face, his arms and legs shackled, in the back of the wagon--safer, in fact, than had they seat-belted him, as he would have been able to (and would have) pounded his head against the wall. His hustle from the start--it's why he ran--was to get arrested, then injure himself, then get a settlement from the city. Too bad for him, but he got his settlement from God. How else to explain the one-in-a-million shot by which he managed to plant his head EXACTLY on that projecting screw, when the van accelerated and the standing fool went sailing through the air?

    OTH, the Gray family, who got $6 mil from the city at the same time they got rid of their 18-felony- arrest bad seed, must be the luckiest folks on earth.

    Replies: @Alec Leamas

    I don’t know if anybody is going to follow the family’s subsequent activities but what are the odds that they use the settlement proceeds to move on up out of Sandtown to a pristine, overwhelmingly white and low crime suburb of Baltimore?

    • Replies: @antipater_1
    @Alec Leamas

    "I don’t know if anybody is going to follow the family’s subsequent activities but what are the odds that they use the settlement proceeds to move on up out of Sandtown to a pristine, overwhelmingly white and low crime suburb of Baltimore?"

    There is a much better chance that they will go broke very quickly.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    , @Jack D
    @Alec Leamas

    You are thinking like a white person - that's what YOU would do with this money. Maybe put some in a 401(k), diversified mutual fund, etc. Uh, uh. Think RIMS. Think BLING.

    On the other hand, I once did a real estate closing for an elderly distant relative who was a sweet old lady (she was born the same month that WWI began) who was like a throwback to the Edwardian era. Needless to say, profanity was not at all in her vocabulary. The neighborhood where she had lived for decades with her late husband was starting to go black and the buyers were a family that had won the ghetto lottery - I think one of them was involved in a SEPTA bus crash (before they started putting cameras on the buses, if there was a bus crash with 10 people on board, 20 people would file injury claims). The buyers were like a parody of ghetto trash and the moment some routine minor issue came up at the closing they were jumping around and cursing and acting in textbook stereotypical pissed off Negro fashion. It was like Queen Elizabeth meets Tupac Shakur. I only wish I had a video camera so you could see the expression on this dear old woman's face when the sh*t started going down. Anyway, all's well that ends well. The Negroes did not shoot the place up and eventually they calmed down and the old lady used the proceeds to buy a condo and lived out her days (she died last year at 100+) in a lovely doorman building overlooking the Philadelphia Art Museum.

  46. @Glossy
    @Anonym

    Without looking it up, I think that the left vs. right terminology arose during the French Revolution. At that time the people who called themselves the left were anti-clerical, in many cases astheist. The right was religious. That's still true. So there is some consistency to these terms.

    200 years ago the right was associated with monarchy and the aristocracy. Those things are almost entirely gone from Western political life - that was a victory of the left.

    Replies: @Anonym

    Although I kind of wandered without summarizing, my greater point was that left vs right defines a somewhat arbitrary grab bag of policies that either clarifies or muddies understanding of politics. Historically speaking, it is a fairly recent division. In the case of anti-immigration the left/right schema mostly muddies. People here have started talking about alt-center or alt-left in addition to the alt-right, the alt being synonomous with to anti-immigration and anti-PC.

    I guess alt-right emerged as such because the old left has been destroyed by identity politics and so the only place anti-immigrationism could really emerge was from the “whom” (aka white people) the “who” were taking resources from via various means of wealth transfer.

    • Replies: @NickG
    @Anonym

    Anyone who is an immigration restrictionist is, ipso facto, 'far right' and basically a Nazi, so the alt centre thing wont catch on.

    Replies: @Anonym

    , @ben tillman
    @Anonym


    Although I kind of wandered without summarizing, my greater point was that left vs right defines a somewhat arbitrary grab bag of policies that either clarifies or muddies understanding of politics. Historically speaking, it is a fairly recent division. In the case of anti-immigration the left/right schema mostly muddies.
     
    To the contrary, the Left/Right distinction is exceptionally clear in the case of immigration. The Left, as the party of movement (aggression/entropy), supports it; the Right, as the party of order, opposes it.

    Replies: @Anonym

    , @Bill
    @Anonym

    Is there really an immigration-restrictionist, anti-PC "alt-left?" Where can I read about it?

    It would be pretty damn funny if the American Old Right and Old Left were re-created under the alt right and alt left monikers.

  47. @Glossy
    OT: There is a right-wing, nationalist electoral trend both in Europe and in America. But in real-life terms the left-wing trend continues - the number of third-worlders in Western countries keeps growing, WWG and WWT were resounding successes, feminism marches on.

    What happens when two opposing forces run up against each other? A collision, sometimes an explosion. It's like two accelerating trains running towards each other on the same track.

    What would an explosion look like in the modern West? Military coups, terrorist campaigns that are not motivated by Islam. That stuff could come back.

    In most countries most military and police officers are politically conservative, but that doesn't mean that there won't be any left-wing coups. In fact it is the right that's doing better and better at the polls now. So the left would have an incentive to counter that with violence. And there HAVE been left-wing military coups in the past.

    Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist, @Anonym, @AnotherDad, @Paul Mendez, @Bill

    What happens when two opposing forces run up against each other?

    Read about the last few years running up to the start of the Spanish Civil War.

    Both sides get increasingly radical. Centrist are forced to take sides. Politics becomes focused on nothing more than destroying your opponents. Anger boils over in the streets. Eventually, somebody in a position of power decides it’s time to “take charge.”

    • Replies: @Glossy
    @Paul Mendez

    Yes, there is radicalization on both sides. For many decades the entire Western political world was moving leftward. Right now the left is still moving leftward, but the right has begun to move rightward. If one extrapolates that, one sees conflict ahead. Like, violent conflict.

    , @International Jew
    @Paul Mendez


    Read about the last few years running up to the start of the Spanish Civil War.
     
    Thanks, I'll look into that. I've been reading up on Argentina, though: it's the story of how a rich country ruins itself.

    For sure, Americans are still convinced we're going to be a rich country forever, no matter how badly we screw up.

    Replies: @Ivy

  48. @Anonymous
    @reiner Tor

    Leading by 6 points just ten days before election. Leading by almost 4 points before postal ballots count. Losing in the end by 0.7 points. That ought to be enough to at least raise a suspicion. Yet, everywhere in the West everyone keeps acting like electoral fraud can never happen. Hello, hello, that assumption is no longer safe. It certainly happens - only question to what extent. Why would not they press for the recount?

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Bill, @Pericles

    The Scottish referendum was clearly rigged.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Bill Jones


    The Scottish referendum was clearly rigged.
     
    The opinion polls showed the 'stay' vote in the lead and the European elections in May had unionist parties - in total - way ahead of the SNP. That led me to believe that the referendum would not be a 'leave' vote. If 'leave' was going to win then one would have expected the SNP to do better.

    One could argue that the same applies in England and the UK generally re UKIP and the EU. But the difference is UKIP are still outsiders while the SNP are treated as a 'proper' party and a lot of people had no qualms about voting for them. The elites who supposedly oppose Scottish independence treat them with a respect they dont accord to UKIP.

    , @Pericles
    @Bill Jones

    There were clearly some oddities with the Scottish referendum. An article in big Swedish paper Dagens Nyheter (via Google Translate, amending a couple of egregious errors):


    The vote for an independent Scotland has been called a civic elections. Instead of just include ethnic Scots were all living in the country is eligible to vote, including many Swedes.

    Students Disa Persson, who lives in Glasgow was one of the Swedes who took the opportunity to go to the polling station.

    - It felt a little strange at first, I did not know about it. But now it feels quite normal for it was no parliamentary election but it was about the people who live here, so it had nothing to do with the right wave in the rest of Europe, she says.

    After the selection process were criticized by Russia, whose election observer mission in Edinburgh said that the vote "failed to meet international principles". Even Disa Persson was surprised at how voting was done.

    - It was different and I thought it strange. There were no ballot envelopes for example. There was only a small pencil to check the yes or no box, then you folded up the ballot and put it in a small box. So I was a little worried about electoral fraud, it felt very unsafe. But apparently it is always like this.

     

    http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/svenska-disa-rostade-i-skotska-valet-kandes-konstigt/
  49. @Svigor
    "15 minutes of hate," I love it. "In the future, every white will get his 15 minutes of hate."

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger, @anonymous

    15 minutes for white girls too: Former NBA player Etan Thomas gets shut down by white devil girl on a train and tries to “shame her” on Fakebook.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Dirk Dagger

    "15 minutes for white girls too: Former NBA player Etan Thomas gets shut down by white devil girl on a train and tries to “shame her” on Fakebook."

    If the roles were reversed and a White guy on a train asks a Black woman if he can sit next to her and she says the seat is taken when it's really not, but she lets a random Black guy she never met before sit next to her, would that be considered anti-White racism?

    Replies: @ChaseBizzy

  50. @Alec Leamas
    @fish

    Sure, but wait and see - we're not in the heart of the annual summer riot season yet.

    Replies: @fish

    Not saying they won’t freelance something…..I just think the “Eye of Soros” will remain closed until after the election.

  51. @Svigor

    I think the Duke case has, in a way, actually encouraged reckless and politically motivated prosecutions like this. Why? Because Mike Nifong was only sentenced to one day in jail…by the same judge he duped and lied to in the Duke case. Even though the case against Nifong was very strong.
     
    Nifong was publicly humiliated, disbarred, and given a criminal record. It's probably less punishment than he deserved, but I doubt any cuck crusaders are looking on and thinking they'd like a helping of the same. Being disbarred alone is equivalent to hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines, no?

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @jill

    An appropriate sentence would be the jail time for the offense he’s trying to frame the boys for.

    Make that the standard for criminal law fraud and it would end pdq.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Bill Jones

    "An appropriate sentence would be the jail time for the offense he’s trying to frame the boys for."

    I think that was an Old Testament, Talmudic, or mediaeval Christian (take your pick) punishment for perjury.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

  52. I am just glad the judge, who seemed so lost in the years after The Brady Bunch, has found a rewarding career on the bench.

  53. @Paul Mendez
    @Glossy


    What happens when two opposing forces run up against each other?
     
    Read about the last few years running up to the start of the Spanish Civil War.

    Both sides get increasingly radical. Centrist are forced to take sides. Politics becomes focused on nothing more than destroying your opponents. Anger boils over in the streets. Eventually, somebody in a position of power decides it's time to "take charge."

    Replies: @Glossy, @International Jew

    Yes, there is radicalization on both sides. For many decades the entire Western political world was moving leftward. Right now the left is still moving leftward, but the right has begun to move rightward. If one extrapolates that, one sees conflict ahead. Like, violent conflict.

  54. @anonymous-antimarxist
    @27 year old

    Haven't you heard???

    Soros's next step is to finance the "BLM" the Broadway Show featuring Saints Trayvon, Big Mike the Gentle Giant, Tamir Rice, Sam Dubose, Freddy Gray.....

    A few years from now forget "South Pacific" or "West Side Story" every SJW/SWPL dominated HS will be doing "BLM" as the HS Musical.

    Replies: @IVY, @Hrw-500

    Can you work Hamilton into that mix to capture the essence of 2016 nonsense?

  55. Officer Nero and Officer Miller were the two bicycle officers and received the same charges. If Nero was acquitted by a judge, then Officer Miller should be as well (both are white.)

    Miller will be tried at the end of July, but in between their (white) supervisor, Lt Rice, will be tried beginning of July. He is charged with manslaughter.

    The other three, Porter (already hung jury), Officer White (female), and Officer Goodson (the driver) all had proximate location to Gray when he was in the van (presumably where he got hurt). All three face manslaughter, with Goodson facing he most serious charges.

    My guess is that Lt Rice will be found guilty of something, because of his supervisory role. The best bet for all white defendants is to face a judge, not a jury.

    Conversely, I think the best bet for all three black defendants is to face a jury. That already worked in Porter’s case the first time in December.

    The Grays and their attorneys are counseling patience and allowing the system to work, and, why not, they got their compensation. Everyone else is just demonstrating for the sake of it, and want a white officer to go down. But I don’t think they want a black officer to go down.

    The next trial, in two weeks, will be Officer Goodson, who faces the most serious charges.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @SPMoore8

    I think a case can be made that a bench trial is best for all officers regardless of race. Porter's hung jury wasn't much of a victory. He can be retried.

    Replies: @JerryC

    , @Jack D
    @SPMoore8

    I believe that this judge (whose rulings however have no binding power in Miller's upcoming trial) let off Nero on the basis that Freddie had already been detained (by Miller) by the time that he came on the scene, so Nero couldn't possibly be held guilty of false arrest or whatever specious charge the DA brought - in order to unlawfully detain someone, first you have to detain him and Nero didn't do any detaining at all, so whether the arrest was unlawful or not, it was not his arrest either way.

    The charge itself was ridiculous - it would turned every arrest by a police officer that is later overturned into a crime. Nor was it in any way foreseeable that merely arresting him would lead to his death, nor did Nero and Miller have anything to do with what happened to Freddie later in the van. If you think the police are spending all their time since BLM eating donuts, you ain't seen nothin' yet if they turn making a bad arrest into a crime - they'll tell the DA's to make their OWN arrests from now on, so THEY can end up in jail instead of the police.

    But theoretically the outcome in Miller's trial could be different if it turns out that he WAS the one who unlawfully detained Freddie vs Nero who didn't.

  56. @Anonymous

    . The verdict is likely to renew debate over whether anyone will be held responsible for Mr. Gray’s death.
     
    I hold Mr. Gray responsible.



    So let's all acknowledge that and be satisfied and move on.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Wally, @athEIst

    I couldn’t agree more. Gray played and he paid.

    Good call.

  57. @Bill Jones
    @Svigor

    An appropriate sentence would be the jail time for the offense he's trying to frame the boys for.

    Make that the standard for criminal law fraud and it would end pdq.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    “An appropriate sentence would be the jail time for the offense he’s trying to frame the boys for.”

    I think that was an Old Testament, Talmudic, or mediaeval Christian (take your pick) punishment for perjury.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Hibernian

    Not for perjury per se, but for bearing false witness. See Deut. 19 :18-19

    Replies: @Hibernian

  58. @SPMoore8
    Officer Nero and Officer Miller were the two bicycle officers and received the same charges. If Nero was acquitted by a judge, then Officer Miller should be as well (both are white.)

    Miller will be tried at the end of July, but in between their (white) supervisor, Lt Rice, will be tried beginning of July. He is charged with manslaughter.

    The other three, Porter (already hung jury), Officer White (female), and Officer Goodson (the driver) all had proximate location to Gray when he was in the van (presumably where he got hurt). All three face manslaughter, with Goodson facing he most serious charges.

    My guess is that Lt Rice will be found guilty of something, because of his supervisory role. The best bet for all white defendants is to face a judge, not a jury.

    Conversely, I think the best bet for all three black defendants is to face a jury. That already worked in Porter's case the first time in December.

    The Grays and their attorneys are counseling patience and allowing the system to work, and, why not, they got their compensation. Everyone else is just demonstrating for the sake of it, and want a white officer to go down. But I don't think they want a black officer to go down.

    The next trial, in two weeks, will be Officer Goodson, who faces the most serious charges.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Jack D

    I think a case can be made that a bench trial is best for all officers regardless of race. Porter’s hung jury wasn’t much of a victory. He can be retried.

    • Agree: SPMoore8
    • Replies: @JerryC
    @Hibernian

    Correct. In any sane jurisdiction, Porter would have been acquitted after about 5 minutes of deliberation.

  59. @Joe Walker
    @Dr Van Nostrand

    Adelson just wants to make sure that, if Trump becomes president, he can claim that his endorsement made it possible.

    Replies: @antipater_1

    “Adelson just wants to make sure that, if Trump becomes president, he can claim that his endorsement made it possible.”

    That’s almost certainly correct. Adelson made the pilgrimage from Las Vegas to Trump Tower in NYC. Trump did not go to Las Vegas.

  60. @Hibernian
    @SPMoore8

    I think a case can be made that a bench trial is best for all officers regardless of race. Porter's hung jury wasn't much of a victory. He can be retried.

    Replies: @JerryC

    Correct. In any sane jurisdiction, Porter would have been acquitted after about 5 minutes of deliberation.

  61. The 2016 #Blacklivesmatter National Convention will take place in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania on July 14, 15 and 16. The theme is “PUTTING A NATIONAL TEAM, TOOLS, STRATEGY, MESSAGE TOGETHER.” As the days have passed what’s becoming clear is #Blacklivesmatter mantra lacking concept, approach, methodology and clarity. Glaringly, there appears no capacity to lift the movement to the next level. #Blacklivesmatter lacks depth in its articulation. We must better explain the theoretical perspective espoused. By attending #Blacklivesmatter activists will enhance the group’s “ability and competency” to better engender desired results. Interestingly, the Blacklifematterpgh.org group has “put in writing MORE THAN FOUR YEARS AGO” the same plan that the Urban League just announced and the national media appears to agree with. How many “BLACK LIVES” would have mattered if they would have listened to us more than four years ago? Nonetheless, we need “URGENT” philanthropy support in Pittsburgh for the 2016 National Convention. Your donation can be made online to PayPal account. http://www.blacklifematterpgh.org/july-2016-convention-for–blacklivesmatter-activists.html

  62. @Buffalo Joe
    @J1234

    J1234, as @anonymous pointed out Nifong was disbarred and is now named in a multimillion dollar civil action,

    Replies: @antipater_1, @J1234

    But Nifong must almost certainly be broke. What can people get in a law suit against him?

  63. @Dirk Dagger
    @Svigor

    15 minutes for white girls too: Former NBA player Etan Thomas gets shut down by white devil girl on a train and tries to “shame her” on Fakebook.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “15 minutes for white girls too: Former NBA player Etan Thomas gets shut down by white devil girl on a train and tries to “shame her” on Fakebook.”

    If the roles were reversed and a White guy on a train asks a Black woman if he can sit next to her and she says the seat is taken when it’s really not, but she lets a random Black guy she never met before sit next to her, would that be considered anti-White racism?

    • Replies: @ChaseBizzy
    @Jefferson

    Thank you for your contribution to this particular comment section Jefferson. Don't be so shy next time.

  64. O.T.: I’ve been waiting for Steve to cotton to the recent crypto-racial incident where Draymond Green kicked kiwi Steven Adams in the groin. “Inadvertently,” except that it was the second kick to the same place in two consecutive games. The NBA declined to suspend Green.

    What it striking about the incident is that Adams had just (before either of the kicking incidents) said that the Thunder’s defense was hard to play because they’re such “fast little monkeys.” He had to apologize.

    It’s pretty obvious to me that Green’s aggression was in revenge for Adams’s monkey comment. I’ve seen no commentator bring this up. That would make the kicks a sort of “hate crime” – but in the wrong direction.

    Analogizing a negro to a monkey is very serious business these days. Perhaps the commentators don’t realize that.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Apparently White privilege/White supremacy is not institutionally powerful enough to suspend Draymond Green.

    , @SPMoore8
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    I'm from the Bay Area so normally an apologist but I don't think there was anything going on here except the Warriors thought the Thunder would be easy to beat, and they haven't been, and so they tried to go Thug. And they got away with it. But karma decreed they would lose the game.

    Warriors have nothing to be ashamed of the last two seasons -- the team, that is -- but sports history is full of teams that have awesome regular seasons and then get eliminated in the playoffs. It happens.

    I guess they didn't suspend Green because it's the playoffs and the money involved. But it was still bush and he should be suspended.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @anon, @Stephen R. Diamond

  65. They never meant to kill Freddy Gray. They only wanted to shake him up. It’s not their fault he died while they were shaking him up. It was an accident. It could happen to anybody.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @WorkingClass

    You're better off at one of the leftier blogs on unz.com, or the ones where extreme left comes full circle and meets extreme right, and vice versa. I've seen you there. Corvinus and the artist Light formerly known as Truth hold the troll franchise here. What part of Mr. Gray's drug use, possession of a spring loaded knife banned by Baltimore municipal code, back problems fake or real, running from the cops at first eye contact, and extreme resisting of arrest, don't you understand? Your leftist thirst for justice doesn't prevent you from wanting to punish these cops for the sins of other cops who took perps on rough rides. You call yourself Working Class, but you apparently don't consider cops working class, you obviously have no solidarity with them.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Stephen R. Diamond

  66. @Thomas
    I figured BLM was supposed to be another Trayvon-style election turnout operation for the Democrats but it appears to be imploding too quickly to make it to November.

    I had wondered though if the Democratic convention in Philadelphia, only 90 miles from Baltimore, was going to be affected by this case (one way or the other, if not BLM antics, then maybe Philadelphia cops catching the "blue flu" during the convention week). The convention is already looking like it'll be a spectacle with Sanders refusing to drop out. (Unlike the Republican one, despite the wishes and hopes of the political press. Democrats falling in love (or not) and Republicans falling in line, the historical pattern, seems to be bearing out this year.)

    Replies: @TWS

    That’s why there are six trials.

  67. @Hibernian
    @Bill Jones

    "An appropriate sentence would be the jail time for the offense he’s trying to frame the boys for."

    I think that was an Old Testament, Talmudic, or mediaeval Christian (take your pick) punishment for perjury.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Not for perjury per se, but for bearing false witness. See Deut. 19 :18-19

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @kaganovitch

    Thanks.

  68. @Stephen R. Diamond
    O.T.: I've been waiting for Steve to cotton to the recent crypto-racial incident where Draymond Green kicked kiwi Steven Adams in the groin. "Inadvertently," except that it was the second kick to the same place in two consecutive games. The NBA declined to suspend Green.

    What it striking about the incident is that Adams had just (before either of the kicking incidents) said that the Thunder's defense was hard to play because they're such "fast little monkeys." He had to apologize.

    It's pretty obvious to me that Green's aggression was in revenge for Adams's monkey comment. I've seen no commentator bring this up. That would make the kicks a sort of "hate crime" - but in the wrong direction.

    Analogizing a negro to a monkey is very serious business these days. Perhaps the commentators don't realize that.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @SPMoore8

    Apparently White privilege/White supremacy is not institutionally powerful enough to suspend Draymond Green.

  69. @Anonymous
    “The state’s theory has been one of recklessness and negligence,” Judge Williams said. “There has been no evidence that the defendant intended for a crime to occur.”

    Is criminal intent a necessary element to recklessness and negligence?

    Replies: @Hhsiii, @jon

    The standard for recklessness is usually “knew or should have known.”

  70. @Stephen R. Diamond
    O.T.: I've been waiting for Steve to cotton to the recent crypto-racial incident where Draymond Green kicked kiwi Steven Adams in the groin. "Inadvertently," except that it was the second kick to the same place in two consecutive games. The NBA declined to suspend Green.

    What it striking about the incident is that Adams had just (before either of the kicking incidents) said that the Thunder's defense was hard to play because they're such "fast little monkeys." He had to apologize.

    It's pretty obvious to me that Green's aggression was in revenge for Adams's monkey comment. I've seen no commentator bring this up. That would make the kicks a sort of "hate crime" - but in the wrong direction.

    Analogizing a negro to a monkey is very serious business these days. Perhaps the commentators don't realize that.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @SPMoore8

    I’m from the Bay Area so normally an apologist but I don’t think there was anything going on here except the Warriors thought the Thunder would be easy to beat, and they haven’t been, and so they tried to go Thug. And they got away with it. But karma decreed they would lose the game.

    Warriors have nothing to be ashamed of the last two seasons — the team, that is — but sports history is full of teams that have awesome regular seasons and then get eliminated in the playoffs. It happens.

    I guess they didn’t suspend Green because it’s the playoffs and the money involved. But it was still bush and he should be suspended.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @SPMoore8

    "I’m from the Bay Area so normally an apologist but I don’t think there was anything going on here except the Warriors thought the Thunder would be easy to beat, and they haven’t been, and so they tried to go Thug. And they got away with it. But karma decreed they would lose the game.

    Warriors have nothing to be ashamed of the last two seasons — the team, that is — but sports history is full of teams that have awesome regular seasons and then get eliminated in the playoffs. It happens.

    I guess they didn’t suspend Green because it’s the playoffs and the money involved. But it was still bush and he should be suspended."

    Awhile back I read that there is a Nigerian who plays for The Golden State Warriors and in the beginning I thought it was Draymond Green who was the Nigerian because he is as dark as the Senegalese r&b singer Akon.

    The splash brothers Klay Thompson and Stephen Curry look White standing next to Draymond Green.

    , @anon
    @SPMoore8

    Draymond Green didn't get suspended also because the NBA-sports media complex wants the Warriors in the Finals against the Cavs. They don't want OKC and certainly don't want Toronto. Yet the pesky small-market/"Canadian" teams are not getting with the program. Expect refereeing "errors" in favor of GSW/CLE in the upcoming games.

    Also, Commissioner Silver is a dyed-in-the-wool SJW who supports all BLM-type causes and, along with ESPN/TNT/ABC is steering the NBA towards total "diversity", i.e., elimination of whites from the player pool (nearly complete), coaching ranks (well underway), and broadcasting crews (substantially complete). Ernie Johnson, Marv Albert, Jeff Van Gundy, and Hubie Brown are still holding on, with a few other white ex-players and ex-coaches, but the concept of broadcaster teams in which no white males are allowed is being slowly introduced in the past year or so.

    , @Stephen R. Diamond
    @SPMoore8

    So, you think Steven Adams's comment after Game 1 - which would be taken by defense guard Green to be calling him a monkey - had nothing to do with Green kicking Adams in the groin in two successive games?

    The only thing I can figure is you don't appreciate the level of self-entitled rage at being called a monkey. Negroes widely think the epithets "monkey," "boy," and "nigger" not only justify but oblige physical retaliation. And they're insensitive to context.

    Green was retaliating for Adams calling him a monkey. How can one not see this?

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Marty

  71. @Anonym
    @Glossy

    Although I kind of wandered without summarizing, my greater point was that left vs right defines a somewhat arbitrary grab bag of policies that either clarifies or muddies understanding of politics. Historically speaking, it is a fairly recent division. In the case of anti-immigration the left/right schema mostly muddies. People here have started talking about alt-center or alt-left in addition to the alt-right, the alt being synonomous with to anti-immigration and anti-PC.

    I guess alt-right emerged as such because the old left has been destroyed by identity politics and so the only place anti-immigrationism could really emerge was from the "whom" (aka white people) the "who" were taking resources from via various means of wealth transfer.

    Replies: @NickG, @ben tillman, @Bill

    Anyone who is an immigration restrictionist is, ipso facto, ‘far right’ and basically a Nazi, so the alt centre thing wont catch on.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @NickG

    I also highly doubt the "alt-center" or "alt-left" will catch on. And you are right, the alt-right is such because anti-immigration is perceived as a rightist issue.

    However, from the perspective of my comment on Glossy's original post, there is unlikely to be a left-wing coup because the military would have to support immigration, which is unpopular especially among white people, and probably evenly more so among military white people. Unless the military were majority non-white in both the lower ranks and the leadership, I don't see a coup happening anywhere. Practically, it matters that other than anti-immigration, the anti-immigration view, and probably anti-PC, are the main rightist views of consequence and the rest of their views on issues relatively mirror the rest of (white) society's views I would think.

  72. @Anonymous

    . The verdict is likely to renew debate over whether anyone will be held responsible for Mr. Gray’s death.
     
    I hold Mr. Gray responsible.



    So let's all acknowledge that and be satisfied and move on.

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Wally, @athEIst

    Looks like the taxpayers are being held responsible, about $6,000,000 responsible.

  73. @NickG
    @Anonym

    Anyone who is an immigration restrictionist is, ipso facto, 'far right' and basically a Nazi, so the alt centre thing wont catch on.

    Replies: @Anonym

    I also highly doubt the “alt-center” or “alt-left” will catch on. And you are right, the alt-right is such because anti-immigration is perceived as a rightist issue.

    However, from the perspective of my comment on Glossy’s original post, there is unlikely to be a left-wing coup because the military would have to support immigration, which is unpopular especially among white people, and probably evenly more so among military white people. Unless the military were majority non-white in both the lower ranks and the leadership, I don’t see a coup happening anywhere. Practically, it matters that other than anti-immigration, the anti-immigration view, and probably anti-PC, are the main rightist views of consequence and the rest of their views on issues relatively mirror the rest of (white) society’s views I would think.

  74. @SPMoore8
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    I'm from the Bay Area so normally an apologist but I don't think there was anything going on here except the Warriors thought the Thunder would be easy to beat, and they haven't been, and so they tried to go Thug. And they got away with it. But karma decreed they would lose the game.

    Warriors have nothing to be ashamed of the last two seasons -- the team, that is -- but sports history is full of teams that have awesome regular seasons and then get eliminated in the playoffs. It happens.

    I guess they didn't suspend Green because it's the playoffs and the money involved. But it was still bush and he should be suspended.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @anon, @Stephen R. Diamond

    “I’m from the Bay Area so normally an apologist but I don’t think there was anything going on here except the Warriors thought the Thunder would be easy to beat, and they haven’t been, and so they tried to go Thug. And they got away with it. But karma decreed they would lose the game.

    Warriors have nothing to be ashamed of the last two seasons — the team, that is — but sports history is full of teams that have awesome regular seasons and then get eliminated in the playoffs. It happens.

    I guess they didn’t suspend Green because it’s the playoffs and the money involved. But it was still bush and he should be suspended.”

    Awhile back I read that there is a Nigerian who plays for The Golden State Warriors and in the beginning I thought it was Draymond Green who was the Nigerian because he is as dark as the Senegalese r&b singer Akon.

    The splash brothers Klay Thompson and Stephen Curry look White standing next to Draymond Green.

  75. @Jefferson
    @Dirk Dagger

    "15 minutes for white girls too: Former NBA player Etan Thomas gets shut down by white devil girl on a train and tries to “shame her” on Fakebook."

    If the roles were reversed and a White guy on a train asks a Black woman if he can sit next to her and she says the seat is taken when it's really not, but she lets a random Black guy she never met before sit next to her, would that be considered anti-White racism?

    Replies: @ChaseBizzy

    Thank you for your contribution to this particular comment section Jefferson. Don’t be so shy next time.

  76. @Alec Leamas
    @Otto the P

    I don't know if anybody is going to follow the family's subsequent activities but what are the odds that they use the settlement proceeds to move on up out of Sandtown to a pristine, overwhelmingly white and low crime suburb of Baltimore?

    Replies: @antipater_1, @Jack D

    “I don’t know if anybody is going to follow the family’s subsequent activities but what are the odds that they use the settlement proceeds to move on up out of Sandtown to a pristine, overwhelmingly white and low crime suburb of Baltimore?”

    There is a much better chance that they will go broke very quickly.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @antipater_1

    Yes, the nearest Escalade dealer is looking forward to a very good year.

  77. @Svigor
    "15 minutes of hate," I love it. "In the future, every white will get his 15 minutes of hate."

    Replies: @Dirk Dagger, @anonymous

    “15 minutes of hate,” I love it. “In the future, every white will get his 15 minutes of hate.”

    My 15 minutes should have ended in 1960. Yet it keeps on going. Who do I call to get them to stop?

  78. jill says:
    @Svigor

    I think the Duke case has, in a way, actually encouraged reckless and politically motivated prosecutions like this. Why? Because Mike Nifong was only sentenced to one day in jail…by the same judge he duped and lied to in the Duke case. Even though the case against Nifong was very strong.
     
    Nifong was publicly humiliated, disbarred, and given a criminal record. It's probably less punishment than he deserved, but I doubt any cuck crusaders are looking on and thinking they'd like a helping of the same. Being disbarred alone is equivalent to hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines, no?

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @jill

    Nifong will never give up…

    “In “The Price of Silence: The Duke Lacrosse Scandal, The Power of the Elite, and the Corruption of Our Great Universities,” a book by William Cohan released in April 2014, Nifong said he still believes that Mangum was attacked in the bathroom at the party.”

    http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2016/03/where-are-they-now

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    @jill

    It doesn't matter, Nifong was cut loose by the MSM as soon as the extent of his manipulation was revealed. I think North Carolina state govt. was prevented by statute from removing him from office right away after it was revealed his case was a fantasy. Even ESPN whose 30 for 30 docs are pretty left wing regarding racial issues did one exonerating the lacrosse team. Nifong has been professionally destroyed, he is not coming back.

    , @Jack D
    @jill

    And there are still women who believe the Jackie Coakley was raped. Upton Sinclair said that the hardest thing is getting a man to understand something when his salary depends on him NOT understanding it. Ideological blinders are even WORSE than economic blinders. Modern leftism is literally a substitute for religion - getting these people not to believe in evil white rapists is like getting a Christian to believe that Satan does not exist - it's a matter of faith and no amount of evidence will change their mind.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Reg Cæsar

  79. @jill
    @Svigor

    Nifong will never give up...

    "In “The Price of Silence: The Duke Lacrosse Scandal, The Power of the Elite, and the Corruption of Our Great Universities,” a book by William Cohan released in April 2014, Nifong said he still believes that Mangum was attacked in the bathroom at the party."


    http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2016/03/where-are-they-now

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @Jack D

    It doesn’t matter, Nifong was cut loose by the MSM as soon as the extent of his manipulation was revealed. I think North Carolina state govt. was prevented by statute from removing him from office right away after it was revealed his case was a fantasy. Even ESPN whose 30 for 30 docs are pretty left wing regarding racial issues did one exonerating the lacrosse team. Nifong has been professionally destroyed, he is not coming back.

  80. US Attorney General Chris Christie to open investigation of racism at Baltimore DA Office headed by Marilyn Mosby.

  81. @Dr Van Nostrand
    Hi Steve,

    Was just doin a Ctrl F on your pages for your take on Sheldon Adelson endorsing and financing Donald Trump.-couldnt find anything I am very much interested on your analysis

    Regards

    Replies: @Joe Walker, @International Jew

    your take on Sheldon Adelson

    Maybe the $100 million that Adelson has pledged is actually a mortgage on Trump’s casinos.

  82. @Paul Mendez
    @Glossy


    What happens when two opposing forces run up against each other?
     
    Read about the last few years running up to the start of the Spanish Civil War.

    Both sides get increasingly radical. Centrist are forced to take sides. Politics becomes focused on nothing more than destroying your opponents. Anger boils over in the streets. Eventually, somebody in a position of power decides it's time to "take charge."

    Replies: @Glossy, @International Jew

    Read about the last few years running up to the start of the Spanish Civil War.

    Thanks, I’ll look into that. I’ve been reading up on Argentina, though: it’s the story of how a rich country ruins itself.

    For sure, Americans are still convinced we’re going to be a rich country forever, no matter how badly we screw up.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @International Jew

    For more background about how the Argentine and most other Latin American governments are so dysfunctional, see Political Order and Political Decay, by Francis Fukuyama. That provides a useful overview.

  83. @Bill Jones
    @Anonymous

    The Scottish referendum was clearly rigged.

    Replies: @Lurker, @Pericles

    The Scottish referendum was clearly rigged.

    The opinion polls showed the ‘stay’ vote in the lead and the European elections in May had unionist parties – in total – way ahead of the SNP. That led me to believe that the referendum would not be a ‘leave’ vote. If ‘leave’ was going to win then one would have expected the SNP to do better.

    One could argue that the same applies in England and the UK generally re UKIP and the EU. But the difference is UKIP are still outsiders while the SNP are treated as a ‘proper’ party and a lot of people had no qualms about voting for them. The elites who supposedly oppose Scottish independence treat them with a respect they dont accord to UKIP.

  84. @anonymous-antimarxist
    @27 year old

    Haven't you heard???

    Soros's next step is to finance the "BLM" the Broadway Show featuring Saints Trayvon, Big Mike the Gentle Giant, Tamir Rice, Sam Dubose, Freddy Gray.....

    A few years from now forget "South Pacific" or "West Side Story" every SJW/SWPL dominated HS will be doing "BLM" as the HS Musical.

    Replies: @IVY, @Hrw-500

    If the SJW/SWPL’s BLM the musical features folks who look like Carl the Cuck, Aids Skrillex, Big Red and Trigglypuff. They’ll have to paid some people to be spectators for their musical who’ll became instant internet memes.

  85. @Buffalo Joe
    @J1234

    J1234, as @anonymous pointed out Nifong was disbarred and is now named in a multimillion dollar civil action,

    Replies: @antipater_1, @J1234

    I unsuccessfully tried to edit my post to include the fact that he’d lost his law license because I knew this point would be brought up, but what difference does it make? What legitimate client would hire Nifong as a lawyer after this scandal? It would be like hiring Dr. Frankenstein to do your bypass. A few might, but not many.

  86. @anonymous
    @J1234

    Nifong was disbarred.

    Replies: @J1234, @Bill

    Nifong was disbarred.

    True, but mostly irrelevant, as there isn’t a huge demand for attorneys who have their mugshots widely publicized (unless they were arrested for opposing apartheid, or something.)

  87. @Anonym
    @Glossy

    Although I kind of wandered without summarizing, my greater point was that left vs right defines a somewhat arbitrary grab bag of policies that either clarifies or muddies understanding of politics. Historically speaking, it is a fairly recent division. In the case of anti-immigration the left/right schema mostly muddies. People here have started talking about alt-center or alt-left in addition to the alt-right, the alt being synonomous with to anti-immigration and anti-PC.

    I guess alt-right emerged as such because the old left has been destroyed by identity politics and so the only place anti-immigrationism could really emerge was from the "whom" (aka white people) the "who" were taking resources from via various means of wealth transfer.

    Replies: @NickG, @ben tillman, @Bill

    Although I kind of wandered without summarizing, my greater point was that left vs right defines a somewhat arbitrary grab bag of policies that either clarifies or muddies understanding of politics. Historically speaking, it is a fairly recent division. In the case of anti-immigration the left/right schema mostly muddies.

    To the contrary, the Left/Right distinction is exceptionally clear in the case of immigration. The Left, as the party of movement (aggression/entropy), supports it; the Right, as the party of order, opposes it.

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @ben tillman

    European anti-immigration parties are more socialist. Trump is attracting Trump Democrats and a lot of the blue collar white male vote.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France)

    The mainstream right hasn't opposed immigration, cucks that they are.

    Replies: @ben tillman

  88. @anonymous
    @J1234

    Nifong was disbarred.

    Replies: @J1234, @Bill

    So what? Are you trying to say that is sufficient punishment?

  89. @yaqub the mad scientist
    @Glossy

    And there HAVE been left-wing military coups in the past.

    No surprises there. Tocqueville noted how in many countries the military often acts as a liberalizing force. In the developing world, quite a few progressive authoritarians, like Qaddafi and Nassar, have come out of the military.

    Replies: @Bill

    Meritocratic institutions are always suspect that way, whether they be the military or the church. Highly able, driven, chip-on-shoulder individuals high up in important institutions are bad for maintaining the social order.

  90. @Anonymous
    @reiner Tor

    Leading by 6 points just ten days before election. Leading by almost 4 points before postal ballots count. Losing in the end by 0.7 points. That ought to be enough to at least raise a suspicion. Yet, everywhere in the West everyone keeps acting like electoral fraud can never happen. Hello, hello, that assumption is no longer safe. It certainly happens - only question to what extent. Why would not they press for the recount?

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Bill, @Pericles

    Do you know if postal votes in Austria normally tilt left or right, relative to in-person votes?

  91. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @SPMoore8
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    I'm from the Bay Area so normally an apologist but I don't think there was anything going on here except the Warriors thought the Thunder would be easy to beat, and they haven't been, and so they tried to go Thug. And they got away with it. But karma decreed they would lose the game.

    Warriors have nothing to be ashamed of the last two seasons -- the team, that is -- but sports history is full of teams that have awesome regular seasons and then get eliminated in the playoffs. It happens.

    I guess they didn't suspend Green because it's the playoffs and the money involved. But it was still bush and he should be suspended.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @anon, @Stephen R. Diamond

    Draymond Green didn’t get suspended also because the NBA-sports media complex wants the Warriors in the Finals against the Cavs. They don’t want OKC and certainly don’t want Toronto. Yet the pesky small-market/”Canadian” teams are not getting with the program. Expect refereeing “errors” in favor of GSW/CLE in the upcoming games.

    Also, Commissioner Silver is a dyed-in-the-wool SJW who supports all BLM-type causes and, along with ESPN/TNT/ABC is steering the NBA towards total “diversity”, i.e., elimination of whites from the player pool (nearly complete), coaching ranks (well underway), and broadcasting crews (substantially complete). Ernie Johnson, Marv Albert, Jeff Van Gundy, and Hubie Brown are still holding on, with a few other white ex-players and ex-coaches, but the concept of broadcaster teams in which no white males are allowed is being slowly introduced in the past year or so.

  92. Bill says:
    @Glossy
    OT: There is a right-wing, nationalist electoral trend both in Europe and in America. But in real-life terms the left-wing trend continues - the number of third-worlders in Western countries keeps growing, WWG and WWT were resounding successes, feminism marches on.

    What happens when two opposing forces run up against each other? A collision, sometimes an explosion. It's like two accelerating trains running towards each other on the same track.

    What would an explosion look like in the modern West? Military coups, terrorist campaigns that are not motivated by Islam. That stuff could come back.

    In most countries most military and police officers are politically conservative, but that doesn't mean that there won't be any left-wing coups. In fact it is the right that's doing better and better at the polls now. So the left would have an incentive to counter that with violence. And there HAVE been left-wing military coups in the past.

    Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist, @Anonym, @AnotherDad, @Paul Mendez, @Bill

    In most countries most military and police officers are politically conservative

    I wonder. How long can you pay people to defend America’s ugly social order before the only people you have defending America’s ugly social order are the kind of people who will take money to defend America’s ugly social order?

  93. @Anonym
    @Glossy

    Although I kind of wandered without summarizing, my greater point was that left vs right defines a somewhat arbitrary grab bag of policies that either clarifies or muddies understanding of politics. Historically speaking, it is a fairly recent division. In the case of anti-immigration the left/right schema mostly muddies. People here have started talking about alt-center or alt-left in addition to the alt-right, the alt being synonomous with to anti-immigration and anti-PC.

    I guess alt-right emerged as such because the old left has been destroyed by identity politics and so the only place anti-immigrationism could really emerge was from the "whom" (aka white people) the "who" were taking resources from via various means of wealth transfer.

    Replies: @NickG, @ben tillman, @Bill

    Is there really an immigration-restrictionist, anti-PC “alt-left?” Where can I read about it?

    It would be pretty damn funny if the American Old Right and Old Left were re-created under the alt right and alt left monikers.

  94. Nifong will never give up…

    “In “The Price of Silence: The Duke Lacrosse Scandal, The Power of the Elite, and the Corruption of Our Great Universities,” a book by William Cohan released in April 2014, Nifong said he still believes that Mangum was attacked in the bathroom at the party.”

    He might as well leave the barn door open now. What’s he going to say? “Yeah I’ve repented my liberal ways, and oh, and btw I was wrong”? His future career prospects probably lie with other lib fanatics.

    For sure, Americans are still convinced we’re going to be a rich country forever, no matter how badly we screw up.

    We’ll see how long that lasts.

  95. @SPMoore8
    Officer Nero and Officer Miller were the two bicycle officers and received the same charges. If Nero was acquitted by a judge, then Officer Miller should be as well (both are white.)

    Miller will be tried at the end of July, but in between their (white) supervisor, Lt Rice, will be tried beginning of July. He is charged with manslaughter.

    The other three, Porter (already hung jury), Officer White (female), and Officer Goodson (the driver) all had proximate location to Gray when he was in the van (presumably where he got hurt). All three face manslaughter, with Goodson facing he most serious charges.

    My guess is that Lt Rice will be found guilty of something, because of his supervisory role. The best bet for all white defendants is to face a judge, not a jury.

    Conversely, I think the best bet for all three black defendants is to face a jury. That already worked in Porter's case the first time in December.

    The Grays and their attorneys are counseling patience and allowing the system to work, and, why not, they got their compensation. Everyone else is just demonstrating for the sake of it, and want a white officer to go down. But I don't think they want a black officer to go down.

    The next trial, in two weeks, will be Officer Goodson, who faces the most serious charges.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Jack D

    I believe that this judge (whose rulings however have no binding power in Miller’s upcoming trial) let off Nero on the basis that Freddie had already been detained (by Miller) by the time that he came on the scene, so Nero couldn’t possibly be held guilty of false arrest or whatever specious charge the DA brought – in order to unlawfully detain someone, first you have to detain him and Nero didn’t do any detaining at all, so whether the arrest was unlawful or not, it was not his arrest either way.

    The charge itself was ridiculous – it would turned every arrest by a police officer that is later overturned into a crime. Nor was it in any way foreseeable that merely arresting him would lead to his death, nor did Nero and Miller have anything to do with what happened to Freddie later in the van. If you think the police are spending all their time since BLM eating donuts, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet if they turn making a bad arrest into a crime – they’ll tell the DA’s to make their OWN arrests from now on, so THEY can end up in jail instead of the police.

    But theoretically the outcome in Miller’s trial could be different if it turns out that he WAS the one who unlawfully detained Freddie vs Nero who didn’t.

  96. @antipater_1
    @Alec Leamas

    "I don’t know if anybody is going to follow the family’s subsequent activities but what are the odds that they use the settlement proceeds to move on up out of Sandtown to a pristine, overwhelmingly white and low crime suburb of Baltimore?"

    There is a much better chance that they will go broke very quickly.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin

    Yes, the nearest Escalade dealer is looking forward to a very good year.

  97. @jill
    @Svigor

    Nifong will never give up...

    "In “The Price of Silence: The Duke Lacrosse Scandal, The Power of the Elite, and the Corruption of Our Great Universities,” a book by William Cohan released in April 2014, Nifong said he still believes that Mangum was attacked in the bathroom at the party."


    http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2016/03/where-are-they-now

    Replies: @Unladen Swallow, @Jack D

    And there are still women who believe the Jackie Coakley was raped. Upton Sinclair said that the hardest thing is getting a man to understand something when his salary depends on him NOT understanding it. Ideological blinders are even WORSE than economic blinders. Modern leftism is literally a substitute for religion – getting these people not to believe in evil white rapists is like getting a Christian to believe that Satan does not exist – it’s a matter of faith and no amount of evidence will change their mind.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Jack D

    "Modern leftism is literally a substitute for religion – getting these people not to believe in evil white rapists is like getting a Christian to believe that Satan does not exist – it’s a matter of faith and no amount of evidence will change their mind."

    Do you think Leftists believe the majority of rapes in South Africa are committed by rapists with Dutch last names?

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    …like getting a Christian to believe that Satan does not exist – it’s a matter of faith and no amount of evidence will change their mind.
     
    I don't know where you get your news feed, but mine offers up plenty of evidence for the existence of Satan.

    The Internet, in particular, seems almost Calvinist-- out to demonstrate the total depravity of man.

  98. @Alec Leamas
    @Otto the P

    I don't know if anybody is going to follow the family's subsequent activities but what are the odds that they use the settlement proceeds to move on up out of Sandtown to a pristine, overwhelmingly white and low crime suburb of Baltimore?

    Replies: @antipater_1, @Jack D

    You are thinking like a white person – that’s what YOU would do with this money. Maybe put some in a 401(k), diversified mutual fund, etc. Uh, uh. Think RIMS. Think BLING.

    On the other hand, I once did a real estate closing for an elderly distant relative who was a sweet old lady (she was born the same month that WWI began) who was like a throwback to the Edwardian era. Needless to say, profanity was not at all in her vocabulary. The neighborhood where she had lived for decades with her late husband was starting to go black and the buyers were a family that had won the ghetto lottery – I think one of them was involved in a SEPTA bus crash (before they started putting cameras on the buses, if there was a bus crash with 10 people on board, 20 people would file injury claims). The buyers were like a parody of ghetto trash and the moment some routine minor issue came up at the closing they were jumping around and cursing and acting in textbook stereotypical pissed off Negro fashion. It was like Queen Elizabeth meets Tupac Shakur. I only wish I had a video camera so you could see the expression on this dear old woman’s face when the sh*t started going down. Anyway, all’s well that ends well. The Negroes did not shoot the place up and eventually they calmed down and the old lady used the proceeds to buy a condo and lived out her days (she died last year at 100+) in a lovely doorman building overlooking the Philadelphia Art Museum.

  99. @ben tillman
    @Anonym


    Although I kind of wandered without summarizing, my greater point was that left vs right defines a somewhat arbitrary grab bag of policies that either clarifies or muddies understanding of politics. Historically speaking, it is a fairly recent division. In the case of anti-immigration the left/right schema mostly muddies.
     
    To the contrary, the Left/Right distinction is exceptionally clear in the case of immigration. The Left, as the party of movement (aggression/entropy), supports it; the Right, as the party of order, opposes it.

    Replies: @Anonym

    European anti-immigration parties are more socialist. Trump is attracting Trump Democrats and a lot of the blue collar white male vote.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France)

    The mainstream right hasn’t opposed immigration, cucks that they are.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Anonym


    European anti-immigration parties are more socialist.
     
    Okay. That's consistent with being on the right.

    The mainstream right hasn’t opposed immigration, cucks that they are.
     
    Then it's a mistake to think of them as being on the right.
  100. @Jack D
    @jill

    And there are still women who believe the Jackie Coakley was raped. Upton Sinclair said that the hardest thing is getting a man to understand something when his salary depends on him NOT understanding it. Ideological blinders are even WORSE than economic blinders. Modern leftism is literally a substitute for religion - getting these people not to believe in evil white rapists is like getting a Christian to believe that Satan does not exist - it's a matter of faith and no amount of evidence will change their mind.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Reg Cæsar

    “Modern leftism is literally a substitute for religion – getting these people not to believe in evil white rapists is like getting a Christian to believe that Satan does not exist – it’s a matter of faith and no amount of evidence will change their mind.”

    Do you think Leftists believe the majority of rapes in South Africa are committed by rapists with Dutch last names?

  101. @Arclight
    This is actually the best possible outcome for BLM - it plays into their narrative that white cops can act with impunity against unjustly targeted black men. As with most things for the left, it's not the outcome that matters but how useful the process is politically.

    I will be curious to see how the administrative review goes against him. Will the powers that be find he acted appropriately and can return to his job (and basically sanctify his innocence) or will they dismiss him and position Nero to sue the daylights out of the city?

    Replies: @Forbes, @J1234

    This is actually the best possible outcome for BLM

    But BLM is part of the reason Trump is doing so well. Far more Americans are put off by their insanity than inspired by it. So the more noise they make, the more appealing Trump is to white voters on the sidelines.

  102. @International Jew
    @Paul Mendez


    Read about the last few years running up to the start of the Spanish Civil War.
     
    Thanks, I'll look into that. I've been reading up on Argentina, though: it's the story of how a rich country ruins itself.

    For sure, Americans are still convinced we're going to be a rich country forever, no matter how badly we screw up.

    Replies: @Ivy

    For more background about how the Argentine and most other Latin American governments are so dysfunctional, see Political Order and Political Decay, by Francis Fukuyama. That provides a useful overview.

  103. @SPMoore8
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    I'm from the Bay Area so normally an apologist but I don't think there was anything going on here except the Warriors thought the Thunder would be easy to beat, and they haven't been, and so they tried to go Thug. And they got away with it. But karma decreed they would lose the game.

    Warriors have nothing to be ashamed of the last two seasons -- the team, that is -- but sports history is full of teams that have awesome regular seasons and then get eliminated in the playoffs. It happens.

    I guess they didn't suspend Green because it's the playoffs and the money involved. But it was still bush and he should be suspended.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @anon, @Stephen R. Diamond

    So, you think Steven Adams’s comment after Game 1 – which would be taken by defense guard Green to be calling him a monkey – had nothing to do with Green kicking Adams in the groin in two successive games?

    The only thing I can figure is you don’t appreciate the level of self-entitled rage at being called a monkey. Negroes widely think the epithets “monkey,” “boy,” and “nigger” not only justify but oblige physical retaliation. And they’re insensitive to context.

    Green was retaliating for Adams calling him a monkey. How can one not see this?

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Stephen R. Diamond


    So, you think Steven Adams’s comment after Game 1 – which would be taken by defense guard Green to be calling him a monkey – had nothing to do with Green kicking Adams in the groin in two successive games?
     
    You might want to dial it back a bit since you told us that Adams called his teammates -- not the Warriors -- monkeys.

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

    , @Marty
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Your general point is correct about Negros' feeling of entitlement to control white language, but in this case there may be an additional factor. I'm not watching the series, but yesterday on the golf course an avid Warriors fan, 84 years old, told me that Adams has regularly been blocking Green's shots. Blacks feel that b-ball is "their" game, thus for a White to block a Black star's shot is an unforgivable affront. I first saw this in a high school game in 1971 in SF, when a 5'4" black point guard slapped a white forward's face after getting his shot blocked. It's possible Green cares less about being called a monkey than about being "shown up" by a stale pale Australian.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @The Last Real Calvinist

  104. @WorkingClass
    They never meant to kill Freddy Gray. They only wanted to shake him up. It's not their fault he died while they were shaking him up. It was an accident. It could happen to anybody.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    You’re better off at one of the leftier blogs on unz.com, or the ones where extreme left comes full circle and meets extreme right, and vice versa. I’ve seen you there. Corvinus and the artist Light formerly known as Truth hold the troll franchise here. What part of Mr. Gray’s drug use, possession of a spring loaded knife banned by Baltimore municipal code, back problems fake or real, running from the cops at first eye contact, and extreme resisting of arrest, don’t you understand? Your leftist thirst for justice doesn’t prevent you from wanting to punish these cops for the sins of other cops who took perps on rough rides. You call yourself Working Class, but you apparently don’t consider cops working class, you obviously have no solidarity with them.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Hibernian


    You call yourself Working Class, but you apparently don’t consider cops working class, you obviously have no solidarity with them.
     
    Cops have no solidarity with anyone besides themselves. In the old days they were crooked and brutal. Not so much these days but they can't be trusted.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Stephen R. Diamond

    , @Stephen R. Diamond
    @Hibernian


    You call yourself Working Class, but you apparently don’t consider cops working class
     
    Cops aren't workers. When push comes to shove, they're always on the bosses' side. Cops are strikebreakers, and workers unions should sever all relations with them. Cop unions aren't workers unions.
  105. @kaganovitch
    @Hibernian

    Not for perjury per se, but for bearing false witness. See Deut. 19 :18-19

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Thanks.

  106. @Stephen R. Diamond
    @SPMoore8

    So, you think Steven Adams's comment after Game 1 - which would be taken by defense guard Green to be calling him a monkey - had nothing to do with Green kicking Adams in the groin in two successive games?

    The only thing I can figure is you don't appreciate the level of self-entitled rage at being called a monkey. Negroes widely think the epithets "monkey," "boy," and "nigger" not only justify but oblige physical retaliation. And they're insensitive to context.

    Green was retaliating for Adams calling him a monkey. How can one not see this?

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Marty

    So, you think Steven Adams’s comment after Game 1 – which would be taken by defense guard Green to be calling him a monkey – had nothing to do with Green kicking Adams in the groin in two successive games?

    You might want to dial it back a bit since you told us that Adams called his teammates — not the Warriors — monkeys.

    • Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond
    @ben tillman


    You might want to dial it back a bit since you told us that Adams called his teammates – not the Warriors — monkeys.
     
    Ah, I hope that didn't confuse anyone. I did say he called the Thunder monkeys when I meant he said it about the Warriors.

    [Does that change your assessment, SPMoore8?]

    Replies: @ben tillman

  107. @ben tillman
    @Stephen R. Diamond


    So, you think Steven Adams’s comment after Game 1 – which would be taken by defense guard Green to be calling him a monkey – had nothing to do with Green kicking Adams in the groin in two successive games?
     
    You might want to dial it back a bit since you told us that Adams called his teammates -- not the Warriors -- monkeys.

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

    You might want to dial it back a bit since you told us that Adams called his teammates – not the Warriors — monkeys.

    Ah, I hope that didn’t confuse anyone. I did say he called the Thunder monkeys when I meant he said it about the Warriors.

    [Does that change your assessment, SPMoore8?]

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Though I didn't hear the remark in context or see the kicks, your hypothesis is plausible enough.

  108. @Hibernian
    @WorkingClass

    You're better off at one of the leftier blogs on unz.com, or the ones where extreme left comes full circle and meets extreme right, and vice versa. I've seen you there. Corvinus and the artist Light formerly known as Truth hold the troll franchise here. What part of Mr. Gray's drug use, possession of a spring loaded knife banned by Baltimore municipal code, back problems fake or real, running from the cops at first eye contact, and extreme resisting of arrest, don't you understand? Your leftist thirst for justice doesn't prevent you from wanting to punish these cops for the sins of other cops who took perps on rough rides. You call yourself Working Class, but you apparently don't consider cops working class, you obviously have no solidarity with them.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Stephen R. Diamond

    You call yourself Working Class, but you apparently don’t consider cops working class, you obviously have no solidarity with them.

    Cops have no solidarity with anyone besides themselves. In the old days they were crooked and brutal. Not so much these days but they can’t be trusted.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @anonymous

    Your first sentence, and the last half of the third, are over the top. Especially after 911.

    , @Stephen R. Diamond
    @anonymous


    Cops have no solidarity with anyone besides themselves. In the old days they were crooked and brutal. Not so much these days but they can’t be trusted.
     
    Of course you can't trust cops: they're paid to lie. [See Authorized police prevarication as a clue to the nature of the state - http://juridicalcoherence.blogspot.com/2014/11/250-authorized-police-prevarication-as.html.]

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  109. @Anonym
    @ben tillman

    European anti-immigration parties are more socialist. Trump is attracting Trump Democrats and a lot of the blue collar white male vote.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Front_(France)

    The mainstream right hasn't opposed immigration, cucks that they are.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    European anti-immigration parties are more socialist.

    Okay. That’s consistent with being on the right.

    The mainstream right hasn’t opposed immigration, cucks that they are.

    Then it’s a mistake to think of them as being on the right.

  110. @Stephen R. Diamond
    @ben tillman


    You might want to dial it back a bit since you told us that Adams called his teammates – not the Warriors — monkeys.
     
    Ah, I hope that didn't confuse anyone. I did say he called the Thunder monkeys when I meant he said it about the Warriors.

    [Does that change your assessment, SPMoore8?]

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Though I didn’t hear the remark in context or see the kicks, your hypothesis is plausible enough.

  111. @oh its just me too
    @27 year old

    as Steve points out, there will be a whole bunch of inflammation going from NGOs/the left, to get blacks out to vote- racist white cops shooting trayvon and his skittles - come election time MSM will be scanning every police incident and try to spin it into the kkk/cossacks ride again

    If the right were as sinister or Machiavellian , a great strategy would be for the police to stand down.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @RadicalCenter

    Couldn’t blame the police for steeping aside at the last minute, or not coming to work at all, and letting protestors outside the Dem convention, get INSIDE the convention en masse.

    Now THAT would be good TV.

    Let them direct their hatred, intimidation and violence at each other instead of against white people, Asian people, Christians, conservatives, libertarians, and traditional families for a change.

  112. Marty [AKA "coot veal or cot deal"] says:
    @Stephen R. Diamond
    @SPMoore8

    So, you think Steven Adams's comment after Game 1 - which would be taken by defense guard Green to be calling him a monkey - had nothing to do with Green kicking Adams in the groin in two successive games?

    The only thing I can figure is you don't appreciate the level of self-entitled rage at being called a monkey. Negroes widely think the epithets "monkey," "boy," and "nigger" not only justify but oblige physical retaliation. And they're insensitive to context.

    Green was retaliating for Adams calling him a monkey. How can one not see this?

    Replies: @ben tillman, @Marty

    Your general point is correct about Negros’ feeling of entitlement to control white language, but in this case there may be an additional factor. I’m not watching the series, but yesterday on the golf course an avid Warriors fan, 84 years old, told me that Adams has regularly been blocking Green’s shots. Blacks feel that b-ball is “their” game, thus for a White to block a Black star’s shot is an unforgivable affront. I first saw this in a high school game in 1971 in SF, when a 5’4″ black point guard slapped a white forward’s face after getting his shot blocked. It’s possible Green cares less about being called a monkey than about being “shown up” by a stale pale Australian.

    • Disagree: Stephen R. Diamond
    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Marty

    Could be both of the above.

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Marty

    Adams is an interesting player -- really agile and aggressive. But he doesn't look completely stale and pale to me; my guess is he's mixed white/Maori, or something like that. Also, he's from New Zealand, not Australia.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @ben tillman

  113. @Anonymous
    @reiner Tor

    Leading by 6 points just ten days before election. Leading by almost 4 points before postal ballots count. Losing in the end by 0.7 points. That ought to be enough to at least raise a suspicion. Yet, everywhere in the West everyone keeps acting like electoral fraud can never happen. Hello, hello, that assumption is no longer safe. It certainly happens - only question to what extent. Why would not they press for the recount?

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Bill, @Pericles

    It seems evident the postal voters of Austria lean strongly to the left indeed. Whew, bit of luck there, eh?

  114. @Bill Jones
    @Anonymous

    The Scottish referendum was clearly rigged.

    Replies: @Lurker, @Pericles

    There were clearly some oddities with the Scottish referendum. An article in big Swedish paper Dagens Nyheter (via Google Translate, amending a couple of egregious errors):

    The vote for an independent Scotland has been called a civic elections. Instead of just include ethnic Scots were all living in the country is eligible to vote, including many Swedes.

    Students Disa Persson, who lives in Glasgow was one of the Swedes who took the opportunity to go to the polling station.

    – It felt a little strange at first, I did not know about it. But now it feels quite normal for it was no parliamentary election but it was about the people who live here, so it had nothing to do with the right wave in the rest of Europe, she says.

    After the selection process were criticized by Russia, whose election observer mission in Edinburgh said that the vote “failed to meet international principles”. Even Disa Persson was surprised at how voting was done.

    – It was different and I thought it strange. There were no ballot envelopes for example. There was only a small pencil to check the yes or no box, then you folded up the ballot and put it in a small box. So I was a little worried about electoral fraud, it felt very unsafe. But apparently it is always like this.

    http://www.dn.se/nyheter/varlden/svenska-disa-rostade-i-skotska-valet-kandes-konstigt/

  115. @Marty
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Your general point is correct about Negros' feeling of entitlement to control white language, but in this case there may be an additional factor. I'm not watching the series, but yesterday on the golf course an avid Warriors fan, 84 years old, told me that Adams has regularly been blocking Green's shots. Blacks feel that b-ball is "their" game, thus for a White to block a Black star's shot is an unforgivable affront. I first saw this in a high school game in 1971 in SF, when a 5'4" black point guard slapped a white forward's face after getting his shot blocked. It's possible Green cares less about being called a monkey than about being "shown up" by a stale pale Australian.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @The Last Real Calvinist

    Could be both of the above.

    • Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond
    @Hibernian

    Well, yeah, and it could be that he had a fight with his wife or girlfriend. There are all sort of speculative reasons. But when there's a public insult, a norm of retaliation, and not one but two groin kicks in the immediate aftermath, it's more than speculation.

    I'm trying to understand what happened. Most importantly, I want to understand why almost nobody sees the obvious here. Even Unzites, who I had thought would see it, dilute its significance.

    Why? Obviously the powers that be in basketball don't want a "hate crime" by a top athlete to surface. Social Justice Warriors would see such an accusation as undermining the narrative that the only "haters" are whites. But those tending toward white nationalism are also a bit uncomfortable with the reality. Here I do have to speculate. I think it's probably because it underscores the mental pain white racism has indeed inflicted on negroes. Green's self-entitled rage does co-exist with deep pain (he's a very dark negro). This is shown by the fact that the monkey comment ["quick little monkeys" - to get it right] caused a complete breakdown of his game, a total loss of self-confidence, likely costing the Warriors the series.

  116. @Marty
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    Your general point is correct about Negros' feeling of entitlement to control white language, but in this case there may be an additional factor. I'm not watching the series, but yesterday on the golf course an avid Warriors fan, 84 years old, told me that Adams has regularly been blocking Green's shots. Blacks feel that b-ball is "their" game, thus for a White to block a Black star's shot is an unforgivable affront. I first saw this in a high school game in 1971 in SF, when a 5'4" black point guard slapped a white forward's face after getting his shot blocked. It's possible Green cares less about being called a monkey than about being "shown up" by a stale pale Australian.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @The Last Real Calvinist

    Adams is an interesting player — really agile and aggressive. But he doesn’t look completely stale and pale to me; my guess is he’s mixed white/Maori, or something like that. Also, he’s from New Zealand, not Australia.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    "...my guess is he’s mixed white/Maori, or something like that."

    Maybe that's why he thought he could get away with the remark.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    , @ben tillman
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    Adams is an interesting player — really agile and aggressive. But he doesn’t look completely stale and pale to me; my guess is he’s mixed white/Maori, or something like that.
     
    Yes, I agree he appears mixed, and in fact his mother is Tongan (according to Wikipedia):

    Adams' mother is Tongan, and his father, Sid, was an Englishman who settled in New Zealand after serving in the Royal Navy. Adams is the youngest of Sid's 18 children with five different women.
  117. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Marty

    Adams is an interesting player -- really agile and aggressive. But he doesn't look completely stale and pale to me; my guess is he's mixed white/Maori, or something like that. Also, he's from New Zealand, not Australia.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @ben tillman

    “…my guess is he’s mixed white/Maori, or something like that.”

    Maybe that’s why he thought he could get away with the remark.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Hibernian

    I kept wondering, so I went to wikipedia and checked: Adams is the product of an English father who emigrated to NZ, and a Tongan mother.

  118. @anonymous
    @Hibernian


    You call yourself Working Class, but you apparently don’t consider cops working class, you obviously have no solidarity with them.
     
    Cops have no solidarity with anyone besides themselves. In the old days they were crooked and brutal. Not so much these days but they can't be trusted.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Stephen R. Diamond

    Your first sentence, and the last half of the third, are over the top. Especially after 911.

  119. @Hibernian
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    "...my guess is he’s mixed white/Maori, or something like that."

    Maybe that's why he thought he could get away with the remark.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    I kept wondering, so I went to wikipedia and checked: Adams is the product of an English father who emigrated to NZ, and a Tongan mother.

  120. @Jack D
    @jill

    And there are still women who believe the Jackie Coakley was raped. Upton Sinclair said that the hardest thing is getting a man to understand something when his salary depends on him NOT understanding it. Ideological blinders are even WORSE than economic blinders. Modern leftism is literally a substitute for religion - getting these people not to believe in evil white rapists is like getting a Christian to believe that Satan does not exist - it's a matter of faith and no amount of evidence will change their mind.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Reg Cæsar

    …like getting a Christian to believe that Satan does not exist – it’s a matter of faith and no amount of evidence will change their mind.

    I don’t know where you get your news feed, but mine offers up plenty of evidence for the existence of Satan.

    The Internet, in particular, seems almost Calvinist– out to demonstrate the total depravity of man.

  121. @Hibernian
    @WorkingClass

    You're better off at one of the leftier blogs on unz.com, or the ones where extreme left comes full circle and meets extreme right, and vice versa. I've seen you there. Corvinus and the artist Light formerly known as Truth hold the troll franchise here. What part of Mr. Gray's drug use, possession of a spring loaded knife banned by Baltimore municipal code, back problems fake or real, running from the cops at first eye contact, and extreme resisting of arrest, don't you understand? Your leftist thirst for justice doesn't prevent you from wanting to punish these cops for the sins of other cops who took perps on rough rides. You call yourself Working Class, but you apparently don't consider cops working class, you obviously have no solidarity with them.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Stephen R. Diamond

    You call yourself Working Class, but you apparently don’t consider cops working class

    Cops aren’t workers. When push comes to shove, they’re always on the bosses’ side. Cops are strikebreakers, and workers unions should sever all relations with them. Cop unions aren’t workers unions.

  122. @Hibernian
    @Marty

    Could be both of the above.

    Replies: @Stephen R. Diamond

    Well, yeah, and it could be that he had a fight with his wife or girlfriend. There are all sort of speculative reasons. But when there’s a public insult, a norm of retaliation, and not one but two groin kicks in the immediate aftermath, it’s more than speculation.

    I’m trying to understand what happened. Most importantly, I want to understand why almost nobody sees the obvious here. Even Unzites, who I had thought would see it, dilute its significance.

    Why? Obviously the powers that be in basketball don’t want a “hate crime” by a top athlete to surface. Social Justice Warriors would see such an accusation as undermining the narrative that the only “haters” are whites. But those tending toward white nationalism are also a bit uncomfortable with the reality. Here I do have to speculate. I think it’s probably because it underscores the mental pain white racism has indeed inflicted on negroes. Green’s self-entitled rage does co-exist with deep pain (he’s a very dark negro). This is shown by the fact that the monkey comment [“quick little monkeys” – to get it right] caused a complete breakdown of his game, a total loss of self-confidence, likely costing the Warriors the series.

  123. @anonymous
    @Hibernian


    You call yourself Working Class, but you apparently don’t consider cops working class, you obviously have no solidarity with them.
     
    Cops have no solidarity with anyone besides themselves. In the old days they were crooked and brutal. Not so much these days but they can't be trusted.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Stephen R. Diamond

    Cops have no solidarity with anyone besides themselves. In the old days they were crooked and brutal. Not so much these days but they can’t be trusted.

    Of course you can’t trust cops: they’re paid to lie. [See Authorized police prevarication as a clue to the nature of the statehttp://juridicalcoherence.blogspot.com/2014/11/250-authorized-police-prevarication-as.html.%5D

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Stephen R. Diamond

    The police are merely the biggest, best financed, most aggressive gang around, with judges of both parties typically biased in their favor.

  124. @Stephen R. Diamond
    @anonymous


    Cops have no solidarity with anyone besides themselves. In the old days they were crooked and brutal. Not so much these days but they can’t be trusted.
     
    Of course you can't trust cops: they're paid to lie. [See Authorized police prevarication as a clue to the nature of the state - http://juridicalcoherence.blogspot.com/2014/11/250-authorized-police-prevarication-as.html.]

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    The police are merely the biggest, best financed, most aggressive gang around, with judges of both parties typically biased in their favor.

  125. Steve D, it might have something to do with basketball being blackity-black-black-black, a simpleton’s sport where grown men bounce a clown-sized orange ball constantly. I pay zero attention, and I doubt I’m the only one here who does.

  126. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Marty

    Adams is an interesting player -- really agile and aggressive. But he doesn't look completely stale and pale to me; my guess is he's mixed white/Maori, or something like that. Also, he's from New Zealand, not Australia.

    Replies: @Hibernian, @ben tillman

    Adams is an interesting player — really agile and aggressive. But he doesn’t look completely stale and pale to me; my guess is he’s mixed white/Maori, or something like that.

    Yes, I agree he appears mixed, and in fact his mother is Tongan (according to Wikipedia):

    Adams’ mother is Tongan, and his father, Sid, was an Englishman who settled in New Zealand after serving in the Royal Navy. Adams is the youngest of Sid’s 18 children with five different women.

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