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From JayMan’s twitter feed, car crash fatalities per 100,000 population (which isn’t the same as per vehicle or mile driven):
Yeah, Libya is the big black hole of bad driving. We’re talking about a country where the only man with the gravitas and calming leadership necessary to keep the furious tribes from each others’ throats for 42 years was Col. Muamurh Kuffoffee.
Rush hour in Benghazi
An0ther country in the black range is little Eritrea. Robert D. Kaplan visited there a decade or two ago and was impressed with the system of mandatory free market driving schools that the dictator had imposed, but the effects of these reforms seem to not have kicked in yet.
And the third country in the black is the Dominican Republic. Fortunately, a large fraction of Dominicans in the United States are ex-minor league baseball players, and we all know that ex-minor leaguers are careful drivers. In fact, my first couple of years in Chicago, I shared an apartment with an ex-minor leaguer, my cousin, a Channing Tatum-lookalike who’d blown out his pitching arm in AA ball and was thus getting an MBA at Northwestern rather than pitching in the bigs. He’d get pulled over by cops for moving violations while driving home drunk from Rush St. a few times per years, but they’d always let him off with a warning. Heck, he didn’t get a ticket for the time he was doing an illegal U-turn in the middle of Clark St. and misjudged his car’s turning radius, hitting a fire hydrant and sending his other cousin through the windshield. Why? Because, like I said, he looked like Channing Tatum.
Anyway, if you measure deaths per vehicle, the Sahel countries south of Libya have extraordinarily high numbers. On average, each motorist kills somebody with his vehicle every decade or so. But they don’t have very many cars yet.
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What’s amazing is how lousy American drivers are. Passing on the right isn’t good, guys. And the only reason Canada is green instead of blue is all the crappy Toronto drivers. And then you have Germany with no speed limits on the autobahn and all blue.
And if you'd ever left your provincial Canadian backwater and actually driven in Germany you'd know that the Autobahn mostly has a speed limit and it's so crowded anyway that one is very lucky to even average 70 mph. Also it doesn't hurt that Germans drive the best cars in the world, you don't see many clunkers on their highways.
Still, I imagine American drivers really are worse on average than European drivers.
The good news is that US traffic fatalities have been declining very quickly in recent years. The US will probably be a green country in a couple more years.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/U.S._traffic_deaths_as_fraction_of_total_population_1900-2010.png
The real issue is that the sheer volume that Americans drive, increases the odds of you getting harmed there when you spend something like a quarter of your life in a car.
The same US population with better land use and road design would be a lot safer.
In any city with Asians, if you drive far enough you're bound to come up on a Honda Civic going at least five MPH too slow in the left lane ... driven by some Asian girl.
Surprised by how low Philippines is.
Singapore, on the other hand, has a higher fatality rate as our roads are just clear enough for speeding. Ditto for Malaysia.
it seems like there is an IQ component in that lower IQ countries have a higher rate of fatalities
this isn’t driving accidents, this is driving accidents ratio’d through the prism of access-to-quality-emergency-medicine.
American car wrecks, even in relatively remote places, will get attention by police/emt’s/”trained bystanders”. Mauritanian car wrecks, not so much.
A good example of this is the North Coast of South America. France owns, literally owns, a small South American holding: French Guyana. There are Parisian Doctors and Lyonnais EMTs. The local army base and space base are staffed with people with entirely “first world” backgrounds and expectations.
Check out their neighbour, Suriname. Suriname is right next door, same latitude, altitude etc. Same driving conditions on average. And it’s 5X more dangerous. Why is that? Because Suriname is Suriname, which is to say South American, while French Guyana is, despite it’s deceptive location, Europe.
Are Surinamese more likely to crash that French Guyanese? Seems pretty improbable. They ARE more likely to die, though. 5X more likely. This delta is emergency medicine
-although I would expect better roads ,better vehicles and stricter licensing compared to Suriname -but given greater wealth probably more driving
Wouldn't Suriname be better considered as a West Indian or Caribbean state like it's (other ) neighbour Guyana ( the former British one ) rather than South American ( =Hispanic ? ) ?
For comparison, here it is for the United States:
As seen in my post More Maps of the American Nations
While I suspect very little of the 1.21. of the lowest level or the to 84 of the upper level are presented, still the variability (>~X3) is amazing.
Nothing is safe in from Libyan drivers :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbre_du_T%C3%A9n%C3%A9r%C3%A9
http://jaymans.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/all-race-age-adjusted-traffic-death-rates-county-2004-2010.png
As seen in my post More Maps of the American NationsReplies: @EriK, @athEIst
Yankeedom does surprisingly well. Or is that really surprising?
I recall seeing a US Army training film many years ago that said that the highway fatality rate in West Germany (this was pre-unification) was four times that of the US. Ha, loads of Eastern Front veterans driving in those days. More likely explanation is that the median age in Germany was a lot lower then. And some regulatory/policing factors. Import enough Muslims and Africans and they’ll get that highway fatality rate back up again.
The no-speed limit on Autobahns somewhat of a myth. More than half of all Autobahn roads have some kind of speed limit. Germany’s blue is probably best explained by the extremely stringent tests for drives licenses (hours and hours of both practical and theoretical lessons).
20 km Stau
China vs. Japan? It still blows me away how differently these two people are, given their relatively similar IQs and genetics.
Steve,
Ah, Libya. Maybe you could do a write up on the February 17th Martyrs Brigade; they came to “la revolution” by taking over the literal drivers seat on the march to Tripoli. Nothing like Qatari money (or UAE or SA, who knows?) and NATO air power to clear the proverbial road to freedom and democracy. Or as they say in the political field the road to Benghazi! is paved with good intentions.
I’m sure She Who Must Be Obeyed (er, elected) would love to see the press cover that one in depth. If only there was a record of email traffic kept in accordance with federal record retention laws…..
Says a lot about DC traffic that every cabbie/uber is an Eritrean or Ethiopian.
That said you could overlay the US map with republican turnout and you’ll see that Republicans like to kill people with cars.
“Anyway, if you measure deaths per vehicle, the Sahel countries south of Libya have extraordinarily high numbers. On average, each motorist kills somebody with his vehicle every decade or so.”
Wow. So how much of it is active murder, possibly as an extension of the murderous feuds between the tribes?
Regards Libyan driver safety, is it really considered a traffic accident if the crash is caused by having one’s vehicle riddled by bullets from an AK-47?
I also recommend looking at fatalities per 100,o000 miles driven, or similar metric based on data availability.
That will give some more context to driving capabilities.
The US will come out looking better too.
Passing on the right isn’t good, guys
Nor is passing on the left, in the oncoming traffic lane, as a soccer mom in a Cadillac Escalade did to me the other day in Newport Beach. Close calls like this happen all the time. Americans are terrible drivers. Or maybe it’s just all the women and Asian drivers causing the trouble out there.
Laguna Beach Fogey
I remember hitchhiking through Kandahar back in 1963 (this was before the troubles began). There were only two cars in town. Damn if they didn’t run into each other when neither stopped at the only intersection in town. Totalled both. That puts their accident rate at 100%, my point being that some of these figures, I bet, reflect the relative absence of cars on the road, and the lack of caution that results.
The reason we have such a bad standing is the NAMs and our shitty engineering on our roads. We also have a stupid streak a mile wide with ‘libertarians’ who see speed limits as a challenge to their rights.
Speaking of Steve’s Channing Tatum-lookalike cousin, what we’re talking about here is not the privilege of being white so much as the privilege of being good-looking (or beautiful in the case of women). Looks, intelligence, an attractive personality — these are the kinds of privilege that really count in our society. They are all genetic in origin (says Jayman, and I believe him). Not sure how you are supposed to check them, however; or whether our society would be a better place if you did. OTH, I do believe we need to pay more attention to the problems of the dumb and the ugly. Their happiness is just as important as everybody else’s. Practice citizenism. Be nice to them.
That’s not Gambia, it’s Guinea-Bissau, a rather anarchic country. It’s also colored the same as South Africa and Thailand.
Sorry, duplicate.
Passing on the right sure beats driving in a tightly packed formation. I don’t even slow down.
So this is blowing up on the internet right now: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/08/south-carolina-walter-scott-shooting-audio-video
The EYE has found another Gentle Giant, and THIS time there’s video. Cept of course everyone, EVERYONE, is ignoring the fact that the guy ran from the policeman….not once but twice, then, had some form of wrestling match with him, and then just before he ran away the second time may or may not have grabbed the policeman’s tazer.
Anyway, the authorities are taking no chances on this. Feds have been brought in, The officer has been charged with MURRRRRDER.
Be prepared for months of undocumented shoppers.
This reminds me of the part in The Bell Curve where they discuss the correlation with IQ and accidents while driving. I have no idea why the map agrees with that racist tome.
I’m surprised India has better road safety than China. I’ve been to both countries; China (Beijing & Shanghai) felt about as safe as Italy, while India felt very dangerous.
True enough, I come across such drivers often enough that I believe it's not just an empty anecdote.Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
Top prospect of the St. Louis Cardinals, Oscar Tavares, was completely loaded in the DR when he died. He also killed his g/f in the crash.
http://deadspin.com/report-oscar-taveras-was-extremely-drunk-at-time-of-fa-1658138854
His BAC was .287. Yikes.
Well of course he crashed...he was in a coma.
For most purposes deaths per mile is the useful statistic. Over the last 20 years, Europe has dramatically improved on this statistic, going from worse than America to better. What happened?
One thing that happened is a campaigns against drunk driving. These happened first in America, so Europe is doing catch-up. But America was already ahead before its drunk driving campaigns, so there must be something else that Europe did to leap-frog.
India – where any driver of any vehicle (bus, truck, car, bike, funny tricycle taxi thing) is obliged to overtake any other vehicle.
One reason car crashes in Libya are so fatal is that quite often they are initiated and finished off by men with guns. Kind of like Sonny in the Godfather.
Many of the Somali pirates are now dead because they bought fast cars, which they crashed.
I nominate Serbia. Even if that lil’ isle-o’-orange isn’t Serbia, it would probably still be an interesting setting for a movie.
Break it down by race, like Steve did with the PISA scores. 😉
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/809956.PDF
Native Americans really live up to their drunk-driving stereotype in this report, followed by their Mexican brethren. From the conclusion:Statistics show that deaths from motor vehicle crashes constitute 6.8% of deaths from all causes for Native Americans and more than 4.7% for Hispanics. These rates were considerably lower for Whites (1.6%), African Americans (1.8%), and Pacific Islanders (2.5%).
Motor vehicle crashes were the third leading cause of death for Native Americans. For Hispanics or Latinos, motor vehicle traffic crashes were the fifth leading cause of death. Motor vehicle crashes were ranked the seventh cause of death for Asians and Pacific Islanders. Fatalities from Motor vehicle crashes were the eighth leading cause of death for Whites. As for African Americans, motor vehicle crashes were not one of one the ten most leading causes of death.
Talk of Mad Max and the Sahel made me think of Chad strongman Idriss Déby
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/03/28/world/africa/chad-strongman-says-nigeria-is-absent-in-fight-against-boko-haram.html?referrer=
Mr. Déby first won the admiration of the West as a military tactician in 1987, when as the commander of Chadian forces he sent his men’s Toyota pickup trucks racing through the desert to outflank Colonel Qaddafi’s Libyan forces with a swift pincer movement.
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And his troops, after driving thousands of miles into the desert, are still in northern Mali taking on Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.
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“Unfortunately, we have known lots of adventures in this country” was Mr. Déby’s discreet summation of Chad’s postcolonial history.
Chechnya. The next (and last ) fast and furious must be in Chechnya.
I say last because nobody gets out alive from chechnya.
Actually if you look at fatalities per mile driven America ranks near the top, with the safety obsessive Swedes coming in first IIRC.
And if you’d ever left your provincial Canadian backwater and actually driven in Germany you’d know that the Autobahn mostly has a speed limit and it’s so crowded anyway that one is very lucky to even average 70 mph. Also it doesn’t hurt that Germans drive the best cars in the world, you don’t see many clunkers on their highways.
That map shows crashes per 100,000 population. Americans drive more (much more) than people in most other countries. You’d really want to show accidents per mile driven to determine who are actually bad drivers. Then there is the quality of trauma care–better trauma care, lower fatality rate, even if the number of accidents is identical.
Still, I imagine American drivers really are worse on average than European drivers.
The good news is that US traffic fatalities have been declining very quickly in recent years. The US will probably be a green country in a couple more years.
OT:
The Washington Post recently published a letter written by George H.W. Bush to his sons George and Jeb back in 1998 that is interesting to read in light of Sailer’s theory that the Bush family is all about the Bush family, and not much else:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2015/02/19/george-h-w-bushs-touching-resentful-and-proud-letter-of-advice-to-jeb-and-george/
I can almost picture a Corleone patriarch saying this: “Nothing that crowd can ever say or those journalists can ever write will diminish my pride in you both, so worry not. The comparisons are inevitable and they will inevitably be hurtful to all of us, but not hurtful enough to divide, not hurtful enough to really mean anything. So when the next one surfaces, just say ‘Dad understands. He is at my side. He understands that I would never say anything much less do anything to hurt any member of our family.’”
The Nordic countries in blue drive 5-6 months on ice. I just spent 2 months in Thailand. That country must be a contender for the medals.
I wonder if the fact that Eritreans are tweaking on khat all the time raises or lowers their traffic fatality rates.
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Catha_edulis.shtmlReplies: @athEIst
No, that’s Guinea Bissau.
Forget the earth-bound misfits. Build flying boats! Better living through better crossover craft.
Americans aren’t actually that bad at driving. per mile we’re pretty damn safe.
The real issue is that the sheer volume that Americans drive, increases the odds of you getting harmed there when you spend something like a quarter of your life in a car.
Someone who visited the Dominican Republic circa 1997 told me his taxi driver was drinking beer, holding it in his hand out the window, and had a pile of empties on the front seat floor.
To be fair, it was probably a watery lager.
My understanding of khat is its not very strong. The people here compare it to espresso, and some say it had no noticeable effects at all.
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Catha_edulis.shtml
The fourth Fast & Furious movie was partly set in the Dominican Republic. Worth a watch.
I’d set the next one somewhere cold, like Scandinavia in winter. The Subarus are all wheel drive anyway.
Better yet see Pillars of the Earth (DVD) which Game of Thrones steals from. Game of Thrones is an international hit in North and far north nations. They film in those places to create a buzz that feeds into more viewership. It is one of the whitest shows on TV. Bad Vlad should be a fan and watching it.Dang Jews again!!! :)
Canada, Australia and the US do poorly for developed countries but the reason may be sheer size – people make more very long journeys.
Here in Washington Heights NYC I can testify that the DR comes by their “black” rating honestly. Outside my window as I write this, a gang of urban youth on motorcycles are popping weelies and weaving through stalled traffic in the wrong direction, hooting and hollering like drunk cowboys in town on Saturday nite. The fuzz from the Trey Four won’t even give chase.
I'd set the next one somewhere cold, like Scandinavia in winter. The Subarus are all wheel drive anyway.Replies: @Clyde
Next Fast|Furious should take place in Finland and Iceland and Northern Scotland. There is a lot of bottled up crazy up north there. How about Game of Thrones?
Better yet see Pillars of the Earth (DVD) which Game of Thrones steals from.
Game of Thrones is an international hit in North and far north nations. They film in those places to create a buzz that feeds into more viewership. It is one of the whitest shows on TV. Bad Vlad should be a fan and watching it.
Dang Jews again!!! 🙂
From personal experience.
Australia/New Zealand – interesting scenery + fewer cars + lower density of police = you don’t pay attention while driving. Otherwise European/Japanese death rates.
UK/German/Japan = lots of cars = you have to pay attention on the road = lower death rate
Portuguese = nice on two feet, but insane behind the wheel of a car. Improved roads have lowered the death rate.
I lived by the Marginal, Europe’s most dangerous road. The had to put concrete blocks down the middle of the road to stop the locals from overtaking into oncoming traffic. In NZ a huge proportion of the deaths are Asian tourists, who are unused to the conditions and to driving on the left. They also often have quite surprisingly terrible driving skills (especially Thais and Chinese)
With the prospect of 4,000,000,000(!!!) Africans by 2100 maybe all Africa should be black! (no pun)
https://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Catha_edulis.shtmlReplies: @athEIst
And of course people take illegal drugs with no noticeable effects all the time.
I’ve traveled a lot on business over the years; had a home in Paris too. So, I’ve driven in different traffic patterns and worlds but the most worst is Manila in the Philippines. It is so bad, I won’t consider driving there. It makes dodge-’em cars look like child’s-play.
http://deadspin.com/report-oscar-taveras-was-extremely-drunk-at-time-of-fa-1658138854
His BAC was .287. Yikes.Replies: @athEIst, @Danindc
His BAC was .287. Yikes.
Well of course he crashed…he was in a coma.
Or close
0.25 BAC: All mental, physical and sensory functions are severely impaired. Increased risk of asphyxiation from choking on vomit and of seriously injuring yourself by falls or other accidents.
0.30 BAC: STUPOR. You have little comprehension of where you are. You may pass out suddenly and be difficult to awaken.
0.35 BAC: Coma is possible. This is the level of surgical anesthesia.
0.40 BAC and up: Onset of coma, and possible death due to
respiratory arrest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content#Highest_recorded_blood_alcohol_level.2FcontentReplies: @athEIst
http://jaymans.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/all-race-age-adjusted-traffic-death-rates-county-2004-2010.png
As seen in my post More Maps of the American NationsReplies: @EriK, @athEIst
While I suspect very little of the 1.21. of the lowest level or the to 84 of the upper level are presented, still the variability (>~X3) is amazing.
I take issue with that map. Eastern Europe appears to be the same as the US: yellow. When I am in Europe, the drivers in the eastern part are FAR worse than anything I see at home in the US. They are more like those in the Russian video Steve posted recently.
But wherever you are, people, please use your turn signals! That includes times when you are changing lanes. And remember: the yellow light means the red light is going to come on very soon. Oh, and those speed limit signs are pretty good suggestions; you might want to consider staying within maybe ten miles per hour of what they say. I say all of this as a former young sports car driver who had his fun and survived. You might not. Or you might kill somebody.
You can read accident statistics broken down by race on a pdf put out in 2006 by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, “Race and Ethnicity in Fatal Motor Vehicle Traffic Crashes 1999 – 2004
http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/809956.PDF
Native Americans really live up to their drunk-driving stereotype in this report, followed by their Mexican brethren. From the conclusion:
Statistics show that deaths from motor vehicle crashes constitute 6.8% of deaths from all causes for Native Americans and more than 4.7% for Hispanics. These rates were considerably lower for Whites (1.6%), African Americans (1.8%), and Pacific Islanders (2.5%).
Motor vehicle crashes were the third leading cause of death for Native Americans. For Hispanics or Latinos, motor vehicle traffic crashes were the fifth leading cause of death. Motor vehicle crashes were ranked the seventh cause of death for Asians and Pacific Islanders. Fatalities from Motor vehicle crashes were the eighth leading cause of death for Whites. As for African Americans, motor vehicle crashes were not one of one the ten most leading causes of death.
The US problem is one of engineering rather than population dynamics. Our road network is designed so that anyone can get anywhere as quickly and as mindlessly as possible. Speed and lack of attention causes a lot of tragedies. That, combined with poor land use where a person has to take to the road no matter how tired, angry, distracted, drunk, old, sick, etc means a lot of unnecessary property damage, maimings, and death.
The same US population with better land use and road design would be a lot safer.
I can corroborate that. Once was taken by taxi in Egypt from the airport in Sharm al Sheikh to Dahab – maybe took 2 hours across the desert. Along the way we saw another car going the other way every 5 minutes or so (this was 10am on a weekday). Ie very, very few cars.
However, every 10-15 minutes we’d witness burnt out cars on the side of the road that had an accident with another car. It was truly unbelievable – how these guys manage to get in so many accidents when there were so few cars on the road. I’ve never seen a similar thing anywhere in the world.
This tree was the only thing around for miles, yet drivers kept running into it.Replies: @Anonymous
I once saw an interview of James Carville in which he said, “I luuvve dumb people!”
I hope you get the San Bernardino Sheriffs treatment.
However, every 10-15 minutes we'd witness burnt out cars on the side of the road that had an accident with another car. It was truly unbelievable - how these guys manage to get in so many accidents when there were so few cars on the road. I've never seen a similar thing anywhere in the world.Replies: @vinny
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbre_du_tenere
This tree was the only thing around for miles, yet drivers kept running into it.
Since when did the law have anything to do with safe driving?
The best engineered roads I’ve ever driven on were in Italy. Italians are rather poor drivers by West European standards. Wos mean? Nothing much.
And we have an engineering/construction system second to none for doling out money in regular intervals to the right firms who do shitty work and take more time than employing a Roman legion with hand tools and manual labor to do the same jobs.
Our first priority is to fund the construction companies that repair and build our roads. Sailer did an article on it I believe. My own knowledge comes from the education and enforcement angle.
Er, you’ll notice how this is one place where Americans and Mexicans are exactly the same color.
I thought at first that the map had missed the awfulness of the Belgians. But no: on an expanded version even my old eyes could see them suitably picked out. But why the Belgians?
Flemish/Walloon rivalry?
This tree was the only thing around for miles, yet drivers kept running into it.Replies: @Anonymous
Officer, the tree swerved several times before it hit my car!
More of the White Privilege, Steve? 🙂
Per mile driven and stratified by race would get US and Canada very close to white Europe – statistically the same, most likely.
Not really HBD-related, but hugely exciting, if true:
Somewhat HBD -related:
The quip in The Right Stuff – “Our Germans are better than their Germans” – referred to our Nazi scientists producing better output to the ones in Soviet employ. Let’s hope our Chinese remain better than their Chinese.
From personal experience, I think the reason why it’s low in the Philippines is due to the slow speeds with all the jams, especially in Manila and even in the provinces. It’s hard to get serious crashes when you’re moving at a snail’s pace.
Singapore, on the other hand, has a higher fatality rate as our roads are just clear enough for speeding. Ditto for Malaysia.
In Singapore, we always joke that the worst drivers are either female, Indian, or old. So the ultimate worst driver is an old Indian lady.
True enough, I come across such drivers often enough that I believe it’s not just an empty anecdote.
That will give some more context to driving capabilities.Replies: @International Jew
Yep. The contrasts will be way bigger.
The US will come out looking better too.
True enough, I come across such drivers often enough that I believe it's not just an empty anecdote.Replies: @Paul Walker Most beautiful man ever...
Where I live a common saying is “Chinese drivers – no survivors”.
Papua New Guinea as good as South Korea. Jared Diamond will be proud.
But why the Belgians.
Flemish/Walloon rivalry?
running from the cops doesn’t mean you should get killed.
Indeed it’s terrible. And i try very hard to avoid doing it. But even worse are these @#$holes who won’t get out of the left lane, but find their own little happy spot and hang out there. Worse, because they are the people who induce passing on the right from others.
In any city with Asians, if you drive far enough you’re bound to come up on a Honda Civic going at least five MPH too slow in the left lane … driven by some Asian girl.
Just guessing, but it looks like high population density countries with a history of automobiles are the safest countries. StrongTowns.org has some great articles about how American style roads (or stroads as they call them) are a huge danger to people. The general argument they present about infrastructure is that highways tend to be rather safe and that low speed streets tend to be rather safe, but that once the two are mixed into a hybrid they becomes a dangerous mix.
American car wrecks, even in relatively remote places, will get attention by police/emt's/"trained bystanders". Mauritanian car wrecks, not so much.
A good example of this is the North Coast of South America. France owns, literally owns, a small South American holding: French Guyana. There are Parisian Doctors and Lyonnais EMTs. The local army base and space base are staffed with people with entirely "first world" backgrounds and expectations.
Check out their neighbour, Suriname. Suriname is right next door, same latitude, altitude etc. Same driving conditions on average. And it's 5X more dangerous. Why is that? Because Suriname is Suriname, which is to say South American, while French Guyana is, despite it's deceptive location, Europe.
Are Surinamese more likely to crash that French Guyanese? Seems pretty improbable. They ARE more likely to die, though. 5X more likely. This delta is emergency medicineReplies: @raj
Never been to either French Guyana or Suriname but isn’t French Guyana treated as part of mainland France in this analysis ? So given it’s relatively small contribution to the French population we really can’t draw any conclusions from the information here
-although I would expect better roads ,better vehicles and stricter licensing compared to Suriname -but given greater wealth probably more driving
Wouldn’t Suriname be better considered as a West Indian or Caribbean state like it’s (other ) neighbour Guyana ( the former British one ) rather than South American ( =Hispanic ? ) ?
Very difficult to get any speed up on an Indian road . China has better cars and better roads so more speed
There's probably a lot of regional variation. In Beijing things seemed relatively safe because 1) traffic jams slowed speeds 2) people who'd just bought brand new expensive German cars were terrified of scratching them. Drivers in Changsha were far more reckless, and there were fewer new black Mercedes cars on the roads.
“Our Germans are better than their Germans”
I was of the belief that there is a choice Marge Schott quote that mirrored that syntax. Alas, I can’t find any reference to it after searching google.
Well, they’re at completely different stages of economic development. A post-industrial China would be interesting to see.
Fair enough.
There’s probably a lot of regional variation. In Beijing things seemed relatively safe because 1) traffic jams slowed speeds 2) people who’d just bought brand new expensive German cars were terrified of scratching them. Drivers in Changsha were far more reckless, and there were fewer new black Mercedes cars on the roads.
0.25 BAC: All mental, physical and sensory functions are severely impaired. Increased risk of asphyxiation from choking on vomit and of seriously injuring yourself by falls or other accidents.
0.30 BAC: STUPOR. You have little comprehension of where you are. You may pass out suddenly and be difficult to awaken.
0.35 BAC: Coma is possible. This is the level of surgical anesthesia.
0.40 BAC and up: Onset of coma, and possible death due to
respiratory arrest.Replies: @Lex
Replace 0 with 1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content#Highest_recorded_blood_alcohol_level.2Fcontent
Could you clarify, please?
One thing that happened is a campaigns against drunk driving. These happened first in America, so Europe is doing catch-up. But America was already ahead before its drunk driving campaigns, so there must be something else that Europe did to leap-frog.Replies: @Brutusale
The Europeans didn’t import millions of macho Mexican morons for whom drinking and driving are the rule, not the exception. Studies vary, but to say that Mexicans are killed (or kill others) while driving drunk at three times the rate of Anglos would be at the conservative end of the graph.
http://deadspin.com/report-oscar-taveras-was-extremely-drunk-at-time-of-fa-1658138854
His BAC was .287. Yikes.Replies: @athEIst, @Danindc
BAC OF .287 or as I call it Thursday Happy Hour
Even where there is no speed limit, one is practically limited by the speed of the car ahead.
20 km Stau
The problem is Aluminum batteries have much lower energy density than Lithium ion.
Hi, Steve, you can combine gun porn and auto porn:
Technical (vehicle).
One of the classic photos.
Libyans go in for the big stuff.
This way to the future. I think the guy in the center is missing a leg or at least a foot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content#Highest_recorded_blood_alcohol_level.2FcontentReplies: @athEIst
Replace 0 with 1.
Could you clarify, please?
True, but of the ~15 times I’ve been stopped by the police(at least half of which were bogus) I never thought maybe I should just run away.
Technical (vehicle).
One of the classic photos.
Libyans go in for the big stuff.
This way to the future. I think the guy in the center is missing a leg or at least a foot.Replies: @athEIst
This way to the future.
Oh goody. 4,000,000,000 of them…by 2100…glad I’ll be dead…will your children, grandchildren?
Three components to traffic safety. Education, Engineering, and Enforcement. We have variable education except increasingly for American commercial drivers (the results of that will be seen in the coming decades where a greater portion is from Mexicans allowed to deliver their loads here in the US) from the schools and local civic organizations to parents’ attitudes towards driving . We have variable enforcement at all levels from State to podunk towns.
And we have an engineering/construction system second to none for doling out money in regular intervals to the right firms who do shitty work and take more time than employing a Roman legion with hand tools and manual labor to do the same jobs.
Our first priority is to fund the construction companies that repair and build our roads. Sailer did an article on it I believe. My own knowledge comes from the education and enforcement angle.
The first time I heard about this was from a white music student whose boyfriend was Japanese, from Japan. Ssaid Asians were terrible drivers, having been her boyfriend’s white-knuckled passenger a few times. In fact, he was the one who pointed out this possible fact to her, allowing a generalization to form.
I do find that various ethnic groups don’t usually have a problem with unfavorable stereotypes if there’s any truth at all to them. It’s usually some professional grievance monger, or some researcher who needs to write a paper on a new set of “victims” that are the most likely to protest, even as they share them.
I don’t know if men or women are any different in this skill. Men seem better at quickly parallel parking, backing in, maneuvering the car very quickly on the highway. But general driving, not any better or worse. However, I have noticed that religious ladies seem not to be sensible drivers all the time, because they place too much trust in God. That may be a gender thing.