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From the Los Angeles Times news section:
Mike Gotovac, legendary Dan Tana’s bartender, dies from COVID-19 at 76
By HAYLEY SMITH
JUNE 19, 2020 11:40 AM
Okay, I’m sure Mike Gotovac was really, really famous, so far as bartenders go, but he has to be about the 100,000th most famous person in the L.A. Times’ circulation zone (which includes about 17 million people in the five counties of Greater Los Angeles).
I checked in again on Wikipedia’s list of “notable” people who have died of COVID-19. Maybe nobody is keeping this page up anymore, but most of the 126 people listed as having died of/from/with coronavirus in the United States are not terribly famous.
The mean age is 78.4.
Also, the notable personage death rate has plummeted this spring:
March: 29 deaths
April: 80
May: 16
June: 1
It could be that whoever was keeping up this page got bored and nobody picked up the slack.
But total deaths in the U.S. have fallen for the last six weeks:
Is the Infection Fatality Rate going down because:
- Infections are going down and case rates are only going up due to more testing?
- Medical care is improving?
- The more vulnerable are avoiding getting infected while the less vulnerable make up an increasing percentage of recent cases?
You’d think we would know…
Also, there’s probably a class aspect: early on, notables got the virus a lot because they were being invited more places. But now they can avoid infection more easily.
The big question that nobody seems to have bothered to look into is: how many Quality-Adjusted Life Years (a.k.a., Disability-Adjusted Life Years) have been lost per coronavirus death? The health profession has tables worked out for just about every other disease of how many years are lost when adjusted for quality of life or disability, but nobody cares to ask this about COVID-19.
The only person I’ve seen mention the term lately is contrarian philosopher Peter Singer:
Is Age Discrimination Acceptable?
Jun 10, 2020
PETER SINGERWhen the coronavirus overwhelmed Italy’s health-care system, a working group of the Italian Society of Anesthesia, Analgesia, Resuscitation, and Intensive Care reluctantly supported rationing by age. They were right to do so.
MELBOURNE – Should we value all human lives equally? …
While some diseases are more likely to kill children, others, like COVID-19, pose the greatest risk to older people, and still others are equally likely to kill people at any age. The WHO uses a tool called the “disability-adjusted life year” (DALY) to measure the years of life lost by premature death and the years of life lived in less than full health. The more DALYs a disease causes to be lost, the greater its global burden.
The DALY is an imprecise tool. How one arrives at the right trade-off between the number of life-years lost and the years lived in any of the various possible states of “less than full health” is a controversial question. To object to taking into account the number of life-years lost, however, seems perverse. We should not be misled by talk of “saving lives.” What medical treatment does, if successful, is prolong lives. Successfully treating a disease that kills children and young adults is, other things being equal, likely to lead to a greater prolongation, and thus do more good, than successfully treating a disease that kills people in their 70s, 80s, and 90s.
If this is “ageism,” is it wrong? The WHO metrics count every DALY equally, whether it is a DALY in the life of a healthy teenager or a DALY in the life of a healthy 90-year-old. Saving the life of the teenager counts for more not because the teenager is younger, but because saving a younger person is likely to mean enabling the person saved to live more years of life. …
As this example shows, discriminating on the basis of age is very different from discriminating on the basis of, say, race. Everyone who is old was once young. No one who is black was ever white. And there is no impartial, race-neutral perspective from which we can all see that it is in everyone’s interests to save the lives of white people rather than black people.
It seems like our current anti-discrimination mania is so pervasive that nobody wants to calculate how many years are being lost because that would be, like, racist.
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There is no impartial, race-neutral perspective from which we can all see that it is in everyone’s interests to save the lives of Black people rather than white people.
In other words, All Lives Matter.
#CancelPeterSinger
There have been a lot of celebrity deaths — of careers at least:
Danny Masterson. Woody Allen. JK Rowling. Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Fallon. All within the last month. Basically no White celebs allowed. Only black ones.
I’m now going to capitalize White and lower case black.
A James Joyce scholar at Berkeley named John Bishop died in May at 71. He was a pretty big name but hasn’t gotten a Wikipedia article yet.
Singer, of course, supports legal infanticide up to at least six months.
I mean, there must have been plenty of actuarial work on this, but seemingly nobody but Singer wants to discuss the issues publicly. It's bizarre.
According to AP:
I wonder how Radio Xamar is reporting this?
The only name that stood out was Bucky Pizzarelli, and he was 94:
Here he is playing an Isham Jones classic.
Jones was given a birthday piano by his wife, and he sat down and wrote this, “It Had to be You”, and couple of other standards within the hour.
There’s no ‘impartial’ perspective from which we can all see that it’s in my interest to care more about my children than anyone else in the world. These Utilitarian freaks are ridiculous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVhlRJ8BCDsJones was given a birthday piano by his wife, and he sat down and wrote this, "It Had to be You", and couple of other standards within the hour.Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Paul Jolliffe
Swell lyrics by Gus Kahn. “Lips that once were mine …”. Hey, gimme back my lips!
Danny Masterson. Woody Allen. JK Rowling. Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Fallon. All within the last month. Basically no White celebs allowed. Only black ones.
I'm now going to capitalize White and lower case black.Replies: @Diversity Heretic, @The Alarmist, @anonymous, @Kyle
The Z-man is doing the same thing on his blog.
I think it’s sufficient to take actuarial remaining years of life into account, which sufficiently discounts the value of the lives of the elderly. Docking additional years for non-subjective low quality doesn’t get you that much further, and remember that Singer supports Hitlerian involuntary euthanasia, or at least aggressive withholding of care for disabled infants, and active killing of them if the parents consent.
Chinese always thought of white people as being somewhat intelligent, but also venal snakes and able to only think of the short term, maybe Peter Singer and utilitarianism proves them right?
People from the Orient always say that Westerners do not know how to respect their elders, and one of the negative effects of Westernization is that young people in the Orient are also apeing the bad cultural practices of White people.
Steve, you got off this Kung Flu Infotainment Panic-Fest almost cold-turkey. I was very glad to see that and even more pleased that you have been covering this Cultural Revolution very thoroughly. This thing is no joke now, or something we just need to think more about – it is in progress and must be stopped before it’s too late.
I know you may still want to follow up on this COVID business. I know you care a lot about celebrities for some odd reason (living in LA?). I hope you will continue NOTICING and concentrating on what’s important. These celebrities could all get sick and die, and it wouldn’t bother me one bit. We could lose 10,000 Kardashian-equivalent years every day, and that’d only be good for us.
#WhoCaresAboutHollywood!
Yeah, right… not even Rachel Dolezal?
Perverse, isn’t it, that a man can identify as a gyno-American to compete against women, and everyone applauds, but heaven forbid that a White-woman might identify as black.
Danny Masterson. Woody Allen. JK Rowling. Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Fallon. All within the last month. Basically no White celebs allowed. Only black ones.
I'm now going to capitalize White and lower case black.Replies: @Diversity Heretic, @The Alarmist, @anonymous, @Kyle
Then there is J.K. Rowling.
But how much evidence is there that the average coronavirus fatality had the same lifespan adjusted for age as the average survivor? It’s the second half of June, we really ought to know this by now?
UK stats are discussed in this short article: https://medium.com/wintoncentre/how-much-normal-risk-does-covid-represent-4539118e1196
Jaypo
http://www.talkstats.com/threads/wanted-rational-coronavirus-analysis.74951/page-2#post-221078
Then again, it could be just garden-variety ignorance.
No normal, healthy children died - only severely ill...and, even they were few.It's all BS. Covid did not pack the punch that the elites had paid for. Democrats are freaking out because people realize that they were lied to. Independents don't like what is happening, and frankly, the protests are getting repetitious and well, boring. Boring is always the kiss of death.
It was a hoax
(Although a 2 week stay-at-home order, plus compensation checks, and then masks afterwards would have been a reasonable response…too bad we didn’t do that…and did massive overkill…thanks to fake Stats from New *cough* York and Democratic governors trying to inflict Max Pain upon their citizens and then blame Trump)
Even in my part of Scandinavia, a lot of restaurants have not reopened.
We don’t know it because it doesn’t serve a purpose of hurting whites or Trump
We don’t have elders, we have elderly. People who have merely lived a long time, not those who have any real wisdom to pass on.
Steve,
UK stats are discussed in this short article: https://medium.com/wintoncentre/how-much-normal-risk-does-covid-represent-4539118e1196
Jaypo
What’s with the hedgehog pattern of deaths?
Is there a spike in paperwork being submitted on Mondays?
I haven’t seen this pattern with other developed countries.
Is there a spike in paperwork being submitted on Mondays?
I haven’t seen this pattern with other developed countries.Replies: @Steve Sailer
My father died, at age 95, on a Saturday evening. I doubt if his death was recorded in government statistics until, say, the following Tuesday at the earliest.
Sweden’s vital statistics appear to be even more weekday-centric.
And you ask why you have 52 genders? Maybe the heavens have their sense of humor?
Interesting curve.
Fast ramp-up and ever so painfully slow decline? Has all of our social isolation and distancing merely prolonged the agony? Is there any evidence that it reduced to overall death rate? Is there any evidence that the isolation and distancing measures could eradicate the virus apart from the natural course of an epidemic trailing off?
As to the ramp up, there is that testing of antibodies in wastewater suggesting that the Virus has been around months before we knew? The test for it is a recent thing — is the ramp-up an artifact of the introduction of testing?
Perverse, isn't it, that a man can identify as a gyno-American to compete against women, and everyone applauds, but heaven forbid that a White-woman might identify as black.Replies: @Pericles, @Sue D. Nim
I guess that means, according to academic best practices, men and women are closer to each other than blacks and Whites. Switching between the former is okay, the latter is just ludicrous.
I’m angry that I have never conceived of this obvious point with so much clarity before.
The coronavirus is seasonal and a major variable impacting mortality is indoor humidity.
The coronavirus is much less fatal in the summertime for this reason. Thus, even as cases have generally plateaued, mortality from the coronavirus is moving sharply downward.
Mainstream press is finally picking up on this:
“The Right Level of Humidity May Be Important Weapon in Fighting Coronavirus, New Studies Show”
https://www.newsweek.com/right-level-humidity-may-important-weapon-fighting-coronavirus-new-studies-show-1507947
The science is that after infection, hosts do much better at fighting a respiratory virus under conditions of high humidity. The respiratory immune system has an innate part that rejects foreign particles such as viruses even when they are unknown. Cilia in a layer of mucus carry virus particles out. In very dry air (typical indoors in winter) the mucus gets dried out, and respiratory tract cilia cannot carry out their function.
This is well explained in the recent 130 citation paper published at
https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/pdf/10.1146/annurev-virology-012420-022445
An inspection of the epidemic data shows that lockdown, masks, and social distancing do not reduce the spread of Covid19.
If lockdowns, masks, and social distancing were effective at slowing the spread of the disease, it should take longer to reach a peak in deaths for a country that imposed these mitigation factors compared to a country that did not. Mark the start of the epidemic in a country as the date when an arbitrary percentage of its residents have died of the disease because death statistics are more accurate than case totals or hospitalizations.
Now apply this metric to UK and Sweden. The UK imposed a lockdown on March 24. Sweden did not impose a lockdown. Schools (under 16 yo), businesses, bars, and restaurants stayed open in Sweden, but people were encouraged to practice personal mitigation so as to not overwhelm the medical system.
According to Worldometers on March 18th a total of 10 people had died in Sweden of Covid19. Since UK has roughly 6.6x greater population, UK’s comparable milestone was reached on March 16th when a total of 65 people had died.
UK and Sweden both experienced a peak in Covid19 deaths on the same day- April 21. The deaths on that day were 1172, and 185, respectively.
UK went from 65 deaths to a daily death peak in 34 days, Sweden from 10 deaths to a daily peak in 32 days. At best UK’s mitigation bought two days of delay in the peak of the epidemic.
Mitigation had no significant effect on reducing the community spread of Covid19 in the UK.
Furthermore, since mitigation does not reduce community spread, it does not save lives. Each person who is exposed to the disease has a probability of infection, hospitalization, and death. That chain of events begins when a person is exposed, which is determined by the community spread rate. So long as the medical system is not saturated, the death rate is largely determined by the susceptibility of the population to the disease. The only thing that can save susceptible people is they isolate themselves while the unsusceptible people acquire herd immunity. Then it would be safe for the susceptible to emerge from isolation.
Sweden’s death rate is relatively high because it houses susceptible people in large population nursing homes. (but low compared to the doomsday predictions in March) If one case of Covid19 enters the home, all the susceptible people in the home die. The death rate in New York was especially high because the state forced over 4000 Covid19 positive patients into its nursing homes.
The US also reached a peak in daily deaths on April 21st with 2693. Hence the community spread in the US was similar to the spread in the UK and Sweden. Daily deaths are now below 800. The death rate to date is 365 per million. That is less than one person in a thousand dying. Daily deaths are following Farr’s law of epidemics, with a long tail. The remaining susceptible people increasingly are facing less risk because the population is nearing herd immunity. The epidemic is nearly over in the United States.
Let me fix it for you, Dr Singer.
There is no impartial, race-neutral perspective from which we can all see that it is in everyone’s interests to save the lives of Black people rather than white people.
In other words, All Lives Matter.
#CancelPeterSinger
Your full-bore utilitarianism will always end up killing cripples and ice-floeing the oldsters, so Singer’s positions are par for the course. But as Steve Sailer points out, it’s really weird that only someone with that mindset would venture into these very normal questions with respect to our current pandemic.
I mean, there must have been plenty of actuarial work on this, but seemingly nobody but Singer wants to discuss the issues publicly. It’s bizarre.
Danny Masterson. Woody Allen. JK Rowling. Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Fallon. All within the last month. Basically no White celebs allowed. Only black ones.
I'm now going to capitalize White and lower case black.Replies: @Diversity Heretic, @The Alarmist, @anonymous, @Kyle
Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Fallon…these two are currently worth money as performers, so they will make the pilgrimage to Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson to repent and grovel, followed by some contributions to Al’s/Jessies’ favorite charities (usually, themselves) and eventually the honkies will be rehabilitated.
Mr Sailer. Despite your initial spate of knicker-wetting, it is time to admit the truth.
This is just a bad flu season.
(Despite Cuomo’s best efforts to make it worse.)
Celebutards stay trimmer and healthier than average.
C-tards can afford good medical care.
Summer is here, so the annual CoronaCold is over. The ‘spike in cases’ is 100% a result of a spike in testing. Deaths remain stubbornly low and they decrease weekly. The obsession with testing was to justify continued Democratic governor lockdowns.
Hoax.
It’s almost a case of willful ignorance … using the DALY metric from the start of the COVID-19 pandemic would have been just too rational, and would not have justified the ongoing wacky measures taken to by our Elites.
http://www.talkstats.com/threads/wanted-rational-coronavirus-analysis.74951/page-2#post-221078
Then again, it could be just garden-variety ignorance.
The Covid flu was a fad. Like the macarena. It did motivate me to read (for several hours–not the whole 2500 pp) of Gorbach’s Infectious Diseases. Where I learnt one thing. I saw 7 or 8 instances of and infer that there must be 100 in there: if you need to test the patient’s blood make bloody sure you collect enough.
My guess is any physician knew Elizabeth Holmes’ business plan was utter shit within two minutes of examination.
They are able to perform the analysis onsite and post detailed results to your account on their secure website within 24-48 hours.
Besides being a crock, what Theranos was promising wasn't like going from VHS to 1080 HD...it was more like going from 4k to 8k.
“You’d think we would know…”
One of the big takeaways from the Covid-19 disaster that took down America is the incompetence of the Centers for Disease Control. This disaster is EXACTLY what the CDC was created to prevent.
Time-serving conservative bureaucrats are the opposite of what is needed.
If there actually is a time in which we move forward, back to the old normal, this entire agency should be disbanded.
Defund the CDC!
I think we pretty much know. Early on, people were throwing around a figure like 10 years. Which is around the simplistic life expectancy of someone 80 years old, unadjusted for anything. http://personal.fidelity.com/products/retirement/inheritedira/lifeexptable.html
They are also making a big deal about not “knowing” things that everybody mostly knows. Like do children get it/spread it/are harmed by it. Or do asymptomatics spread it, or even what it means to be asymptomatic.
The only new thing which we don’t know but discuss is cross immunity with other corona viruses. https://www.sciencealert.com/surprise-finding-suggests-some-people-are-already-primed-to-fight-the-coronavirus
I suspect that the ultra wealthy have hoarded plasma treatments. And we won’t see them dying.
But seriously, this will be hanging around and it took a youth revolt over a single life to break the spell this had cast. A single life being a tragedy per Stalin vs what will be over 5 but under 10 quality adjusted lost life years per official death for Covid19.
With all the drama in New York and other select cities, this would have ended up with a sever economic shock, regardless of government action or inaction. Off topic, but I will just say that people quit flying on their own, and given more urban hospital carnage, this trend was inevitable.
What they don’t know: https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/18/how-likely-are-kids-to-get-covid-19-scientists-see-a-huge-puzzle-without-easy-answers/
https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/09/who-comments-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19/
And here is what they do know:
https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/20/trump-rally-tulsa-recipe-for-disaster/
Perverse, isn't it, that a man can identify as a gyno-American to compete against women, and everyone applauds, but heaven forbid that a White-woman might identify as black.Replies: @Pericles, @Sue D. Nim
https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/1274227087864401920/photo/1
The virus was in the community spread stage in Italy by December 18th. Nothing us mortals can do is going to make sars-2 go extinct. Vaccines can not be made for coronaviruses. We’re not going to test & trace & quarantine a virus that’s similar to the common cold out of existence, especially after it’s reached community spread. The CDC knows that which is why they aren’t doing it, but it isn’t politically correct for them to say that out loud. Since political correctness is the one god we are are beholden to, that’s going to remain unsaid. We all know what happens when the truth remains unspoken. Surgical masks prevent surgeons from spitting or sneezing directly into open wounds during surgery, and they seem to reduce the contagiousness of respiratory pathogens when worn indoors in crowded environments. But they’re not going to stop community spread of the virus. Most of the spread occurs inside homes, which tells me it’s likely the virus is spread from fecal matter and respiratory particles getting onto surfaces and then getting onto people’s hands and faces, in addition to the airborne route. Stay vigilant, wear a mask, keep 10 feet away from others indoors, and wash your hands before you touch your face or eat food. But don’t tell poor people like me that I shouldn’t go to work because I’m going to kill grandma and little timmy with lymphoma. My 93 year old grandfather had it and beat it. The lockdown was effective because it slowed the spread of the virus and saved our heroic healthcare workers from the terrible fate of doing their jobs. Now we the people are finished with lockdowns. It’s done. Perhaps I shouldn’t go to work because the economy will tank either way. That’s wrong, two people at our small manufacturing shop quit for federal covid money. I got a raise and we’re getting more orders than ever so I’m working tons of overtime. Covid is not a hoax, it’s real and it’s bad. It’s going to kill a lot of people because it’s brand new for us evolutionarily. But the sky is not falling.
Danny Masterson. Woody Allen. JK Rowling. Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Fallon. All within the last month. Basically no White celebs allowed. Only black ones.
I'm now going to capitalize White and lower case black.Replies: @Diversity Heretic, @The Alarmist, @anonymous, @Kyle
How is Idris Elba going to host both the Tonight Show with Idris Elba on NBC and Idris Elba Tonight on ABC. Especially when they are in opposing time slots. They’ll have to tape at different times earlier in the day. What a guy.
One factor is the prime target cohorts–people in their 80s–are the “Silent Generation”, who are indeed neither the most numerous nor notable generation of Americans.
We’ve had three presidents born in the summer of ’46, but none born in the 20 years prior. (A record i hope we can keep intact.)
There are some very notable–early 40s born–pre-boomers who were a big part of the 60s and onward culture–say Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger.
And there are somewhat older–30s born–actors who had a similar role–Jack Nicholson, Robert Redford, Jane Fonda.
James Dean and Elvis Presley have already left the building.
The smaller numbers of younger folks getting whacked … if you are say a 65 year old, fat, diabetic the odds are–you aren’t famous. And no one outside of your friends and family gives a crap about you.
Prince Charles, Prince Albert, Boris Johnson, Tom Hanks and wife, and the wife of Justin Trudeau all seem to have recovered, although I guess Johnson had it worse than the others.
I know one person who had it and she basically took to bed for two weeks and recovered. They didn’t even test her at the time but she tested positive for antibodies later.
Is there anyone more famous than George Floyd?
Famous Princeton mathematician John Horton Conway [supposedly] died from COVID-19.
Not COVID:
https://twitter.com/edgarwright/status/1273959302533963777Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1273983882027819008Replies: @MEH 0910, @Jack Armstrong
What about the work of Andrew Briggs which I discussed in a series of late May comments in this thread?
https://www.unz.com/isteve/how-many-quality-adjusted-life-years-is-coronavirus-costing/#comment-3915503
I was kind of hoping you (Steve) would engage with my analysis there.
A related piece from June 4th:
https://www.journalofclinicalpathways.com/article/covid-19-pandemic-vindicates-ispor-value-flower
If Queen Elizabeth II of England comes down with Covid-19, expect a headline or two. I believe she is sheltering in place at Windsor Castle with the drawbridge up.
https://twitter.com/edgarwright/status/1273959302533963777Replies: @Kolya Krassotkin
Holm’s characterization of Puck in A Midsummer Night’s Dream has been thus far non-pareil but will soon be eclipsed, when Shakespeare in Da ‘Hood, in the spirit of our woke times, casts a Stacey Abrams look-alike in the role of the mischievous sprite.
I would say that the one celebrity virus death that stands out is that of country musician Joe Diffie. He was relatively young at 61 and despite rumors to the contrary his wife claims he had no other health issues. My take is that he actually had other issues, that his wife has chosen not to reveal, or that he was a case of one in a million bad luck.
The fact that he died in a nursing home means that he wasn’t a reasonably hale and active senior, but almost certainly had major health issues, most likely dementia.
My guess is any physician knew Elizabeth Holmes' business plan was utter shit within two minutes of examination.Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
That and there are many good-sized healthcare centers that have on-site labs that are able to collect your blood within 15 minutes of the doctor ordering blood work via network ticket.
They are able to perform the analysis onsite and post detailed results to your account on their secure website within 24-48 hours.
Besides being a crock, what Theranos was promising wasn’t like going from VHS to 1080 HD…it was more like going from 4k to 8k.
One of the big takeaways from the Covid-19 disaster that took down America is the incompetence of the Centers for Disease Control. This disaster is EXACTLY what the CDC was created to prevent.
Time-serving conservative bureaucrats are the opposite of what is needed.
If there actually is a time in which we move forward, back to the old normal, this entire agency should be disbanded.
Defund the CDC!Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Bill Jones
C’mon, man! The CDC was busy with childhood obesity and gun violence. /s
We've had three presidents born in the summer of '46, but none born in the 20 years prior. (A record i hope we can keep intact.)
There are some very notable--early 40s born--pre-boomers who were a big part of the 60s and onward culture--say Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger.
And there are somewhat older--30s born--actors who had a similar role--Jack Nicholson, Robert Redford, Jane Fonda.
James Dean and Elvis Presley have already left the building.
The smaller numbers of younger folks getting whacked ... if you are say a 65 year old, fat, diabetic the odds are--you aren't famous. And no one outside of your friends and family gives a crap about you.Replies: @Jack Armstrong
That’s true for everyone isn’t it?
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1273983882027819008Replies: @MEH 0910, @Jack Armstrong
Ridiculous 88-year-olds don’t just drop dead. Cover up.
I know you may still want to follow up on this COVID business. I know you care a lot about celebrities for some odd reason (living in LA?). I hope you will continue NOTICING and concentrating on what's important. These celebrities could all get sick and die, and it wouldn't bother me one bit. We could lose 10,000 Kardashian-equivalent years every day, and that'd only be good for us.
#WhoCaresAboutHollywood!Replies: @VinnyVette
I too have noticed Steve’s preoccupation with celebrities, usually not something you’d equate with savant level smart guy’s such as our humble host… We all have our fetishes I guess!
Dan Tana’s in Hollywood is well worth a visit. Mostly for the atmosphere. The chicken parm is on point. Like most old school red sauce joints, it is both mediocre and amazing at the same time. You go there for the crowd and the vibe.
Still, nothing beats Musso’s. A true institution that I hope still stands when all this is over.
I think the mortality from Wuhan Virus in 61 year olds with no co-morbidities (and note that a lot of 61 year old DO have co-morbidities ) is a lot higher than 1 in 1,000.000. Probably more like 1 in 100. Estimates for people over 60 in general are around 3 per hundred but say 2/3 of those are older/sicker and 1/100 for the younger/healthier over 60s. Maybe I’m off and its 1 in 200 or 300 for the healthier group but it’s nowhere near 1 per million.
In CT, it was officially recorded (2 weeks ago) that 60% of the deaths were in nursing homes/assisted living. Then, suddenly, the local media said it was actually 90%…now they are backing down to 80%.
No normal, healthy children died – only severely ill…and, even they were few.
It’s all BS. Covid did not pack the punch that the elites had paid for. Democrats are freaking out because people realize that they were lied to. Independents don’t like what is happening, and frankly, the protests are getting repetitious and well, boring. Boring is always the kiss of death.
While of course that’s the answer to the question, the CDC says that it takes an average of a week to record a covid death. So more like next Tuesday than this Tuesday.
One of the big takeaways from the Covid-19 disaster that took down America is the incompetence of the Centers for Disease Control. This disaster is EXACTLY what the CDC was created to prevent.
Time-serving conservative bureaucrats are the opposite of what is needed.
If there actually is a time in which we move forward, back to the old normal, this entire agency should be disbanded.
Defund the CDC!Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Bill Jones
I agree. The CDC is second only to the Department of Education in the Oxymoron Stakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVhlRJ8BCDsJones was given a birthday piano by his wife, and he sat down and wrote this, "It Had to be You", and couple of other standards within the hour.Replies: @the one they call Desanex, @Paul Jolliffe
Awesome clip!