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An anonymous iSteve commenter replies:

Asking the commentariat, has anyone seen this hair touching phenomenon in person? Genuinely curious.

I find it hard to imagine in an adult professional work environment. And it’s a “dog that didn’t bark” issue. I can see that this might happen and not become public because the black person doesn’t want to upset work relationships, but if there were constant hair touching, for some percentage of them they would bubble to the surface in Twitter, where names would be named, smartphone videos would be posted, jobs would be lost, and a thousand newspaper op-eds by BIPOCs would bloom. Where are these cases? Give me links to news stories about the three most salient documented hair touching incidents of the past five years: You can’t.

Surely there must be video of Joe Biden touching a black woman’s hair?

 
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  1. I find it hard to imagine in an adult professional work environment.

    Because if it happened at all, it happened in grade school. Integrated grade school.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Reg Cæsar

    Having attended an "integrated" (i.e., majority black) grade school, I can tell you that hair touching happened all the time ... by black girls wanting to touch white girls' hair. The only instance of the reverse I can remember was a surprisingly polite white girl, after acceding to a black girl's request to touch her hair, reciprocated the request (even though it seemed obvious she wasn't really interested in touching the black girl's hair) to lessen the appearance of inequality due to her "good" hair.

    None of the boys, black or white, took any interest in anyone's hair, with one exception: an albino black boy (really) who had a proto-sexual obsession with the most stereotypically white girl in the class. The other black boys mocked him mercilessly for this, but his obsession was strong enough to render him impervious to mockery.

    All of the the recent newspaper hair-touching hysteria stories are a) projection, b) wishcasting, or c) what R.G. Camara described yesterday: good-hair-having mulattas humiliating their nappy-headed rivals.

    Replies: @Spangel119

    , @Abolish_public_education
    @Reg Cæsar

    Hair-touching consent forms mandatory in public schools.

    The schools are full of bullies. Nothing happens to them (administrative punishment is reserved for their victims). But zero tolerance for unauthorized hair touching (UHT).

    School districts must combat UHT. Hair gel detectors installed at every bathroom sink.

  2. Steve, you are going a bit too far with this singular focus on Black women and the hair. Lay off. I mean, there too are plenty of white girls that get bent out of shape if you touch their hair.

  3. If there isn’t any video of this ghastly phenomenon, then it just illustrates yet again how black women are made invisible in a white-supremacist-patriarchical-heteronormative-transphobic-etc-etc society.

    I guess what I’m trying to say is that this is a “heads they win, tails you lose” type of game.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Sergeant Prepper

    "black women are made invisible"

    By what alchemy is this possible? It'd better be strong: Babylonian black magic is on the side of the black ladies. How else to explain the current shenanigans.

  4. Somewhat related. One might think that the left woke would really make an effort to avoid Black stereotypes, but behold this young lady who regularly appears on Dem. Inc. waterboy Seth Meyers late night show. C’mon. This lady’s schtick is Buckwheat, Butterfly McQueen and Farina all rolled into one. I wince with shame at watching this.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Daniel H

    They have finally succeeded of putting AI in a black animatronic puppet!

    Well, I hope the Aliens are real because we definitely can use some eugenics down here.

    , @Matttt
    @Daniel H

    She's good with the buildup and interim jokes, but most of the punchlines are lame and she talks right through them.

  5. Last year my granddaughter went to a public school pre K in Brooklyn where she was the only white child in a class full of blacks and Dominicans. Not only would they touch her hair, but fight with one another over who got to comb it. This year she went to Catholic school.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @nglaer

    So it's projection lol

    , @Elli
    @nglaer

    When I was ten, I was the hairstyling project of my little black neighbors. It wouldn't stay in any arrangement but they loved brushing it. I was not under any circumstances to touch their hair and mess up their mother's braiding.

    Now the poor girls had obviously been affected by a white racist normative of beauty with blond as the ultimate expression....but we did have fun.

    Funny thing, I thought they were privileged...their parents were our landlords, and they had a mother to brush their hair.

    , @Squid
    @nglaer

    "Last year my granddaughter went to a public school pre K in Brooklyn where she was the only white child..."

    What the **** were they thinking???

    , @Tiny Duck
    @nglaer

    File this under stuff that never happened.

    What I want to know is WHY ARE WHITE MEN SO OBSSESSED WITH TOUCHING BLACK PEOPLE"S HAIR

    Are you jealous? Cant control yourself. Just stop.

    1. People of Color are allying to stop you

    2. asians are calling out white supremacy

    3. palestinians are blaming whites for Israel

    4. the 1619 project is being taught in schools

    5. matt gaetz is being investigated for pedophilia

    6. the 1/6 commission is continuing

    7. the military is purging right wingers

    8. it has been proven that violent protests are all done by right winagent provacatuers

    9. BLM is kicking butt and getting paid

    10. more white women are having the children of Men of Color

    11. demographics are changing rapidly

    12. many young white people don’t want to be white

    13. women are taking over

    14. everyone loves homosexuals

    15. gun laws are being formed

    Replies: @TWS

    , @al gore rhythms
    @nglaer

    I suppose the left wing answer to that is that white men have 'othered' white women's hair as well as black women's hair, just in different ways. It's intersectionality all the way down, and it's all the more insidious because there's actually a kernel of truth in there which we aren't allowed to admit--we really do think of white women's and black women's hair in different ways.

    If you were the hair-touching kind you'd want to touch blonde hair because it is beautiful, whereas you would want to touch black hair out of curiosity because it is so...different.

    It must be hard for black women knowing that there is a standard of beauty in the society that they are the exact opposite of. You could understand why they might hate white women, and when they hate 'whiteness' it is more about the physical looks of white women than any abstract qualities, and maybe the hair-touching myth is a product of that.

    For black men, maybe the sense of powerlessness when being arrested by a white man is their equivalent of hair-touching and 'whiteness'.

    Replies: @Clyde

  6. Surely if Covid was that bad there would be dead bodies rotting in houses.

    But no…everyone magically dies in the hospital.

  7. @nglaer
    Last year my granddaughter went to a public school pre K in Brooklyn where she was the only white child in a class full of blacks and Dominicans. Not only would they touch her hair, but fight with one another over who got to comb it. This year she went to Catholic school.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Elli, @Squid, @Tiny Duck, @al gore rhythms

    So it’s projection lol

  8. It’s one of those stories that happened to someone way back when, and gets repeated by people who it didn’t happen to.
    We’ve all been forced to listen to the guy who had to work as hard as his great-great-great-grandfather. Despite everyone who knew him growing up saying he was a lazy ass.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @tr
    @Redneck farmer

    Perhaps his great-great-great-grandfather was a lazy ass too.

  9. The only real case of hair touching I am aware of is when Pelosi touched one of George Floyd’s kids hair:

  10. Good point. I just assume I’m constantly being lied to when I read mainstream media.

  11. @nglaer
    Last year my granddaughter went to a public school pre K in Brooklyn where she was the only white child in a class full of blacks and Dominicans. Not only would they touch her hair, but fight with one another over who got to comb it. This year she went to Catholic school.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Elli, @Squid, @Tiny Duck, @al gore rhythms

    When I was ten, I was the hairstyling project of my little black neighbors. It wouldn’t stay in any arrangement but they loved brushing it. I was not under any circumstances to touch their hair and mess up their mother’s braiding.

    Now the poor girls had obviously been affected by a white racist normative of beauty with blond as the ultimate expression….but we did have fun.

    Funny thing, I thought they were privileged…their parents were our landlords, and they had a mother to brush their hair.

  12. When I was ten, I was the hairstyling project of my little black neighbors. It wouldn’t stay in any arrangement but they loved brushing it. I was not under any circumstances to touch their hair and mess up their mother’s braiding.

    Now the poor girls had obviously been affected by a white racist normative of beauty with blond as the ultimate expression….but we did have fun.

    Funny thing, I thought they were privileged…their family were our landlords, and they had a mother to brush their hair.

  13. Off topic:

    The Cubs no-hit the Dodgers again yesterday but in an unusual way. I missed the ballgame but the Cubs starter was pulled after 94 pitches after the 6th and 3 relievers pitched an inning each to complete the no-hitter. Post-game each of the relievers said they had no idea there was a no hitter going because the pen can’t watch the ballgame. There were eight walks! I suppose in the three true outcome era plus the dead night air in Chavez Ravine such a thing is possible.

  14. I’m surprised they would pull a starter who had a no-hitter going, short of injury. Seems like a good way to anger the baseball gods.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Cool Daddy Jimbo


    I’m surprised they would pull a starter who had a no-hitter going, short of injury. Seems like a good way to anger the baseball gods.
     
    Babe Ruth is co-credited with a no-hitter. He started and pitched through one out, then was ejected. His reliever finished the job.



    Ernie Shore once threw a quasi-perfect game ... after Babe Ruth punched an umpire

    BABE RUTH MADE HISTORY WITH HELP FROM ERNIE SHORE

    Besides, this post is about hair. Baseball is hardly off-topic:


    https://blog.thelonghairs.us/2021-best-hair-in-baseball/


    https://blog.thelonghairs.us/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/galvis.png
    , @Hodag
    @Cool Daddy Jimbo

    94 pitches through 6. Tie ballgame, pitcher coming up next inning. Would be managerial malpractice not to pull him. At least nowadays. Nolan Ryan would have kicked the manager's ass.

  15. Not about hair-touching, but about blacks seizing an opportunity to act like mentally ill children:

    Ikea Atlanta Juneteenth menu changed after blowback over plans to serve fried chicken, watermelon

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/ikea-atlanta-juneteenth-menu-changed-after-blowback-over-plans-to-serve-fried-chicken-watermelon

    “Retailer Ikea is under fire after one of its stores reportedly sent out a lunch menu for a Juneteenth celebration that is said to have featured certain dishes that perpetuate racial stereotypes.”

    “ The spokesperson also noted that about 20 coworkers called out.”

    Watermelon! Fried chicken! The Horror!

    An earlier version of this article said that there were black employees involved in choosing the menu.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Calvin Hobbes

    Apparently Fried Chicken was a staple food of Slavery Times. Who knew!

    Replies: @znon

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Calvin Hobbes

    Calvin, just too funny because when one of the woke food program hosts, such as andrew zimmern, goes to the South to sample 'soul food', well the menu is fried chicken, collard greens, grits and sweet potato pie. Kinda of like going to Cleveland's Little Italy and being shocked that they are serving pasta and cannolis.

    Replies: @SaneClownPosse

    , @SaneClownPosse
    @Calvin Hobbes

    That's Atlanta's staple diet. Add sweet tea to the menu for a trifecta.

    Is it a racial stereotype, if that's what they commonly like to eat?

    Odds are that it was a leftist non-POC woman who initiated the negative reaction on their behalf.

  16. couple of years back I worked in an office with a Nigerian guy (who was seldom in) and a woman (late 20s) and she loved to ‘pat’ his hair (at least she would ask for permission…), so yes it’s a thing I’ve seen.

    • Replies: @Corn
    @Inselaffen

    Getting “patted” by a 20something woman. I have a feeling he didn’t mind.

  17. @Reg Cæsar

    I find it hard to imagine in an adult professional work environment.
     
    Because if it happened at all, it happened in grade school. Integrated grade school.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Abolish_public_education

    Having attended an “integrated” (i.e., majority black) grade school, I can tell you that hair touching happened all the time … by black girls wanting to touch white girls’ hair. The only instance of the reverse I can remember was a surprisingly polite white girl, after acceding to a black girl’s request to touch her hair, reciprocated the request (even though it seemed obvious she wasn’t really interested in touching the black girl’s hair) to lessen the appearance of inequality due to her “good” hair.

    None of the boys, black or white, took any interest in anyone’s hair, with one exception: an albino black boy (really) who had a proto-sexual obsession with the most stereotypically white girl in the class. The other black boys mocked him mercilessly for this, but his obsession was strong enough to render him impervious to mockery.

    All of the the recent newspaper hair-touching hysteria stories are a) projection, b) wishcasting, or c) what R.G. Camara described yesterday: good-hair-having mulattas humiliating their nappy-headed rivals.

    • Thanks: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Spangel119
    @Almost Missouri

    Several years ago, I was at a club at an hour when people were drunk enough to start going home. There was an Eastern European woman there from a country where she likely never interacted with blacks people. She asked to touch a black man’s hair while in a line for the bar. Another American girl she was standing next to pulled her away from the black man and gave her a stern lecture about hair touching. The black man looked entirely crestfallen that this chick was completely obstructing his chances with a woman who was showing physical interest in him.

    Only time in my life I saw hair touching.

  18. Eazy-E’s seminal “Boyz-N-The-Hood” apparently didn’t have an official music video, but:

    Left to get my girl to rock that body
    Before I left I hit the Bacardi
    Went to her house to get her out of the pad
    Dumb ho said somethin’ that made me mad
    She said somethin’ that I couldn’t believe
    So I grabbed the stupid bitch by her nappy-ass weave
    She started talkin’ shit, wouldn’t you know?
    Reached back like a pimp, slapped the ho

    • Replies: @jon
    @Marcus


    Eazy-E’s seminal “Boyz-N-The-Hood” apparently didn’t have an official music video

     

    Sure he did:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeL9gagV_VA
    , @Redneck farmer
    @Marcus

    The Dynamite Hack cover is awesome.

  19. @nglaer
    Last year my granddaughter went to a public school pre K in Brooklyn where she was the only white child in a class full of blacks and Dominicans. Not only would they touch her hair, but fight with one another over who got to comb it. This year she went to Catholic school.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Elli, @Squid, @Tiny Duck, @al gore rhythms

    “Last year my granddaughter went to a public school pre K in Brooklyn where she was the only white child…”

    What the **** were they thinking???

    • Agree: 3g4me
  20. Surely there must be video of Joe Biden touching a black woman’s hair?

    If not he must be a racist, eh?

  21. The thing is, the more black women do to try to make their hair look attractive (white), the less attractive it is. The weaves and extensions and braids and the beads and the dreads and the dye all make their hair look anything from grotesque to down right Predator alien. People naturally do not want to touch grotesque things.

    The hair touching is blacks complaining about attention they want, but don’t get.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Mike Tre


    The thing is, the more black women do to try to make their hair look attractive (white), the less attractive it is. The weaves and extensions and braids and the beads and the dreads ........
     
    I have gotten used to all that on black women. What kinda blows my mind is all the black men I see with long long dreads down to their shoulders. Even longer, then put into a bun or other arrangements. This is time consuming. My guess he spends 30 minutes a day on his hair just to maintain as presentable.
  22. As a 40 year old white guy with nipple length hair in a black city, i’ve gotten weird comments from adults and children.

  23. Imus probably has a video of Resident Biden assaulting a nappy headed ho somewhere.

    But don’t worry Steve, pretty soon, they’ll be too many to count.

    They are going to ban counting.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9717063/Educators-slam-math-workbook-claims-racist-ask-students-right-answer.html

  24. Gratifying to see someone finally say this. I saw it at the Ivies twenty years ago – already hard to miss then. Seen it pervasively K-postgrad since.

    Where have “conservatives” been?

    • Thanks: Triteleia Laxa
    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    @Desiderius

    The General, who instantly explained January 6th, as "white rage", followed it by saying that he is "open-minded". Not "open-minded" to alternative explanations for Jan 6th, but "open-minded" to further glib ideological labelling.

    This makes his statement equal to "I am open-minded to any evidence or argument that confirms my ideological priors."

    I believe he believes he is "open-minded", but he is extremely confused on what it means.

    , @Forbes
    @Desiderius

    Watching that video, General Mark Milley is an embarrassment, and has embarrassed himself (and the military), by claiming that the Jan 6 scrum at the Capitol was a dangerous threat to overturning the constitutional republic.

    Anyone--anyone in a position of authority and responsibility--claiming that is either a puppet, or has a tenuous grip on reality--likely both.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @tyrone
    @Desiderius

    "Where have “conservatives” been?".....you mean conservative inc., they are not on your side ..... when the time comes they will help put you on the cattle car.

  25. OT : this guy cracks me up .

  26. In other news, what companies are paying women less than men? Why don’t they ever name names?

  27. White adults constantly touching black women’s (But not black men’s? It seemed to me children touched black boys hair as much maybe more but somehow it wasn’t as traumatic…) is an example of reality as they’d like it to be perceived. Serious racial disparities in violent crime that exist even after accounting for class and age is an example of reality they’d rather not people understand.

    “The public good – rather than the public’s interest – should be a prevailing factor.” – Candidate for most Orwellian thing ever written that not even Orwell would have thought of it?

    Such policies would also have the bonus effect of driving more of the audience away from local news and to national news outlets that increasingly resemble Twitter trending feeds delivered by somebody in a suit.

    • Thanks: kaganovitch
    • Replies: @Fluesterwitz
    @Altai


    Candidate for most Orwellian thing ever written
     
    Characterization of the day.
    , @New Dealer
    @Altai

    “The public good – rather than the public’s interest – should be a prevailing factor.”

    Marx-Lenin-Stalin, with the magic of dialectic, distinguished the objective interests of humanity in achieving full communism from the subjective interests of workers and other humans in attaining freedom and prosperity here and now. The latter is false consciousness. True consciousness is scientific socialism, applied by the select vanguard of activist intellectuals. That vanguard would seize the state, destroy the bourgeoisie, helping the proletariat to become the first universal class, thereby abolishing scarcity, class, money, state, etc.

    The vanguard’s rule is the democratic dictatorship of the proletariat, because it works to realize the objective interests of humanity. What could be more democratic than realizing the good of all for all time, rather than the subjective or “empirical” interests of individual workers here and now? In case you ever wonder what communists mean when they denounce the empiricist deviation, empiricism means mistakenly being responsive to the expressed, subjective, yet objectively false interests of real humans.

    Critical race theory is not identical to Marxism-Leninism, but is descended from it. It swaps in from Foucault and others multiple oppressed-oppressor struggles on top of the simple class struggle of Marx. Some have aptly called it bioleninism. It retains most of the features of Marxism-Leninism that led to the totalitarian nightmare, including the Hegelian faith that negation automatically spawns a positive (Marx strongly refused to specify how communism would work). That is how they can call for riots, looting, defunding the police, abolition of prisons, abolition of borders without considering consequences or spelling out constructive alternatives. "The arc of history."

    Their achilles heel may be the impossibility of forming an intersectionalist vanguard party. Rather than seizing power, that party would be spending all its time contesting pokemon points. On the other hand, will there be for much longer a nonwoke ruling class that they could seize power from?

    , @jon
    @Altai


    “The public good – rather than the public’s interest – should be a prevailing factor.”
     
    That just jumped out at me. Truly scary, when you consider the things that it can be used to justify in the future.

    Replies: @Altai

    , @Rob
    @Altai

    In that quote, here is what I read:


    Local news reporters have amplified narratives that connect Black and brown communities to crime. As a result, we have fostered systemic racism through our crime …
     
    I was so impressed! Here was a man (or woman (or they!) who understands the origin of racism in Americans under 60 HBDers excepted (and most of us do not harbor ill will towards bipoc) we don’t hate them. We are frightened of them, because they are dangerous. If non-whites listen to this Tweeter, racism will be solved in no time.

    Then I continued reading.

    …coverage
     
    And I thought ‘oh no!’ this is not a based bipoc! This is Cucky, or Cucky II, or even Bride of Cucky. This is man/woman/they who thinks if whites stop seeing reality on tv, then reality will either go away, or everyone who thinks bipocs are crime-prone will think he/she/they is the only one, and probably crazy to boot.

    So, America is not getting saved by that Tweet!
  28. Surely there must be video of Joe Biden touching a black woman’s hair?

    There are at least plenty of videos of Joe Biden touching (and sniffing).

  29. As they say, too early to tell…

    National Security State is a misnomer, it’s a Global Security State trapped in a National Body, which may explain their mania for everything trans. Will the body transition or expel the parasite? Good time to start thinking about what both would look like.

    Better hurry up on that brutal settlement there Aimee before the mark catches on to the con.

  30. If it wakes the Chamberlains of the world up it’s all good.

  31. “6 months later”

    Notoncey Pelosi has new facts. It was not only germanic barbarian lust that did it but also:

    Pelosi names ‘white supremacy’ & ‘anti-Semitism’ as root causes of Capitol riot, announcing new Congress probe into ‘insurrection’

    One is about the root causes of it. The white supremacy, the anti-Semitism, the Islamophobia, all the rest of it that was so evident when you see a sweatshirt on one of the people saying ‘Camp Auschwitz.’

    I guess one of the juju groups got its victim call in.

  32. Is it now a felony to touch holy African hair?

  33. @nglaer
    Last year my granddaughter went to a public school pre K in Brooklyn where she was the only white child in a class full of blacks and Dominicans. Not only would they touch her hair, but fight with one another over who got to comb it. This year she went to Catholic school.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Elli, @Squid, @Tiny Duck, @al gore rhythms

    File this under stuff that never happened.

    What I want to know is WHY ARE WHITE MEN SO OBSSESSED WITH TOUCHING BLACK PEOPLE”S HAIR

    Are you jealous? Cant control yourself. Just stop.

    1. People of Color are allying to stop you

    2. asians are calling out white supremacy

    3. palestinians are blaming whites for Israel

    4. the 1619 project is being taught in schools

    5. matt gaetz is being investigated for pedophilia

    6. the 1/6 commission is continuing

    7. the military is purging right wingers

    8. it has been proven that violent protests are all done by right winagent provacatuers

    9. BLM is kicking butt and getting paid

    10. more white women are having the children of Men of Color

    11. demographics are changing rapidly

    12. many young white people don’t want to be white

    13. women are taking over

    14. everyone loves homosexuals

    15. gun laws are being formed

    • LOL: TWS, West reanimator
    • Replies: @TWS
    @Tiny Duck

    Good to see you using your own name! You only contradicted yourself a couple times. If black men are with white women, who is with black women? I'm certain black men do not commit adultery any more than they would commit crimes. That would mean black men lack self control and dignity. That can't be possible.

    Since you've pretended to be gay, A white woman, married, single I'm just going to let you make your assessment from whichever perspective you choose but please let us know which mask you're wearing that day. Gay, straight, black, White, male, female married, single, it helps to understand your writing.

  34. @nglaer
    Last year my granddaughter went to a public school pre K in Brooklyn where she was the only white child in a class full of blacks and Dominicans. Not only would they touch her hair, but fight with one another over who got to comb it. This year she went to Catholic school.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Elli, @Squid, @Tiny Duck, @al gore rhythms

    I suppose the left wing answer to that is that white men have ‘othered’ white women’s hair as well as black women’s hair, just in different ways. It’s intersectionality all the way down, and it’s all the more insidious because there’s actually a kernel of truth in there which we aren’t allowed to admit–we really do think of white women’s and black women’s hair in different ways.

    If you were the hair-touching kind you’d want to touch blonde hair because it is beautiful, whereas you would want to touch black hair out of curiosity because it is so…different.

    It must be hard for black women knowing that there is a standard of beauty in the society that they are the exact opposite of. You could understand why they might hate white women, and when they hate ‘whiteness’ it is more about the physical looks of white women than any abstract qualities, and maybe the hair-touching myth is a product of that.

    For black men, maybe the sense of powerlessness when being arrested by a white man is their equivalent of hair-touching and ‘whiteness’.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @al gore rhythms


    It must be hard for black women knowing that there is a standard of beauty in the society that they are the exact opposite of. You could understand why they might hate white women....
     
    Black women's beauty secret is wigs and weaves and pork and beans.
  35. Recall not long go, police bodycams and security cameras, features of the new security state, would show that cops are racists beating on poor underprivileged black people for no reason beyond racism. You don’t hear that any more. Derrick Chauvin is an outlier; it happened, but really the vast majority are black acting like savages. And even there; put your hands behind your back, get peacefully into the back of the police car, and you will be home before the cop finishes the paperwork, spare homicide. Instead , when it’s allowed, it’s shows inner city black mayhem, perpetually. And now police bodycams are racist. You cannot win; when the problem is racism, even a simple straightforward solution will be deemed racist.

  36. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/pegobry/status/1408369037650890753?s=20

    Gratifying to see someone finally say this. I saw it at the Ivies twenty years ago - already hard to miss then. Seen it pervasively K-postgrad since.

    Where have "conservatives" been?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Forbes, @tyrone

    The General, who instantly explained January 6th, as “white rage”, followed it by saying that he is “open-minded”. Not “open-minded” to alternative explanations for Jan 6th, but “open-minded” to further glib ideological labelling.

    This makes his statement equal to “I am open-minded to any evidence or argument that confirms my ideological priors.”

    I believe he believes he is “open-minded”, but he is extremely confused on what it means.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
  37. I thought the same until two years ago. Working in an office with mostly women fresh out of college. One day there is excitement because the Indian girl has washed her hair. The others are fascinated an enthusiastic and surround her. Then one girl reaches out and feels the hair and is greatly satisfied. The toucher is the one black girl in the office.

  38. https://twitter.com/neandervariatus/status/1408236739819458568?s=20

    For Christ’s sake they already are! Who do think is pushing it so hard. Look at Cornyn. They got to their wives and daughters through DiAngelo and then “chivalry” and “girl power!” did the rest.

    Same way they got to W through Laura during Katrina. Killed his Presidency leading to 2006 wave.

    Upside being that this makes it radioactive for true sophisticates who are desperately looking for the next latest thing as we speak.

    • Replies: @Neuday
    @Desiderius

    Didn't the Tennessee State Legislator who changed his deciding vote that ratified the 19th Amendment do so at the behest of his mother? It should be the man of the house whose political beliefs are paramount in that household, and even more so if you're an elected official. Listening to women on political matters . . . God give us strength. Hopefully this experience of putting women in charge will be a lesson to others.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Desiderius

    "For Christ's sake they already are!"

    I admit to a bit of satisfying schadenfreude watching arrogant conservatives get outplayed by neurotic leftists. Your beloved corporations and war machine left you in the dust for the crazy chick. But please continue your conserving.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  39. Steve

    You haven’t made a post about:

    1)General Mark Milley’s comments about Mandatory Critical Race Theory for White US Troops in the US Military..

    2)the Transgender-Pride Event at Nellis Airforce Base…

  40. A friend explained the fear of hair-touching thus: Black mothers are savage when they braid their daughters’ hair. There are videos of traumatic hair-braiding by black mothers. I recall one such video, long since scrubbed, that led to a black mother’s arrest. Childhood hair horror is then projected onto white women.

  41. This is an example of the weird racial inversion you see more and more. White people don’t touch black women’s hair; black women touch white people’s hair (especially white children with curly hair). White men almost never hit on black women; black men hit on white women constantly. Black students don’t have to be “twice as good”; whites and Asians have to be twice as good as blacks.

    It’s funny, though. Black women wanting to touch white people’s hair is not a big deal. They’re usually very nice about it, gushing about how pretty your hair or your child’s hair is. It’s usually in the context of a pleasant conversation where you find out you have a lot in common with the black woman. Yet a (mostly mythical) white person touching a black woman’s hair is somehow unbearable.

    If there’s any hope for race relations, it in the pleasant every day interactions and not in the national media making a black woman HR director’s not wanting to go back to the office a sign of white supremacy.

  42. White people have no interest in black hair. Blacks, on the other hand, are obsessed with white hair, especially blonde hair. My daughter’s elementary school had few blacks in it, but, sure enough, those few had to touch her hair on a daily basis, to the point that my wife contacted the teacher about it in kindergarten.

    Has anyone ever felt natural black hair? I had a black kid brush against my arm once, and his hair felt like Scotch-Brite or steel wool. I guess it softens as it gets longer, but I’ve never cared to touch anyone’s hair to find out.

    I worked with black kids once, and they always wanted to touch my hair. I even had an eight year old ask what conditioner I use to get my hair so soft. Another asked how to get blue eyes. The forwardness and flirtatiousness of many black women is also annoying.

  43. The primary identity of gays is gay, women is women, blacks is black, trans is trans, but for the very small subset of straight white men who are still in charge their primary identity is President, Chairman, Senator, Chief Justice, Publisher, CEO.

    They have a very strong incentive to do everything in their power to perpetuate this state of affairs. Wokelism does just that. White identity, men’s rights, pronoun refusal, etc are a direct threat to that.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Desiderius


    Why it’s socially acceptable to read Marx and Lenin but not Nazi thinkers or modern white nationalists is an interesting question.
     
    Well, before "Nazism" (really, nationalist socialism) was a thing, the creation of the Soviet Union and its messanic drive to liberate the proletarians of Europe was regarded as the second coming of Christ and excited "intellectuals" and "activists" alike who had been hoping for communism to emerge from the slums and take over the world since at least the French Commune.

    When serious truths about the Soviet Union emerged in the 20s and 30s, that mood persisted. When fascism and national-socialism emerged as top-down, elite-driven reaction, that mood persisted. When fascism and national-socialism crashed & burned horribly, that mood persisted.

    So nazism/fascism has an elitist Johnny-come-lately smell to it. Can't shake it.

    Replies: @gent

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Desiderius

    Churchill read Mein Kampf and advised all Brit politicians and military to read it.

    "Know your enemy" is generally sound advice.

    But the wokerati don't want to refute arguments, they want to cancel people, sometimes (Biden and his nukes) with extreme prejudice.

    And the people who drive the wokerati? Last thing they want is people actually reading Right people, they might agree with them. So cancellation is the order of the day.

  44. @Almost Missouri
    @Reg Cæsar

    Having attended an "integrated" (i.e., majority black) grade school, I can tell you that hair touching happened all the time ... by black girls wanting to touch white girls' hair. The only instance of the reverse I can remember was a surprisingly polite white girl, after acceding to a black girl's request to touch her hair, reciprocated the request (even though it seemed obvious she wasn't really interested in touching the black girl's hair) to lessen the appearance of inequality due to her "good" hair.

    None of the boys, black or white, took any interest in anyone's hair, with one exception: an albino black boy (really) who had a proto-sexual obsession with the most stereotypically white girl in the class. The other black boys mocked him mercilessly for this, but his obsession was strong enough to render him impervious to mockery.

    All of the the recent newspaper hair-touching hysteria stories are a) projection, b) wishcasting, or c) what R.G. Camara described yesterday: good-hair-having mulattas humiliating their nappy-headed rivals.

    Replies: @Spangel119

    Several years ago, I was at a club at an hour when people were drunk enough to start going home. There was an Eastern European woman there from a country where she likely never interacted with blacks people. She asked to touch a black man’s hair while in a line for the bar. Another American girl she was standing next to pulled her away from the black man and gave her a stern lecture about hair touching. The black man looked entirely crestfallen that this chick was completely obstructing his chances with a woman who was showing physical interest in him.

    Only time in my life I saw hair touching.

  45. • LOL: El Dato
    • Replies: @Barnard
    @fnn

    In six months or less, he will be telling the other women he dates about his crazy ex-girlfriend. Either that or his next move will be to bring in another woman for a threesome and tell his girlfriend her soul is the one his soul found comfort in after they burned her at the stake. The bigger question is who started the "past life regression therapist" grift and how does she keep it going? Seems like your customer base would be limited.

    , @Altai
    @fnn

    https://twitter.com/MKUltraMoney/status/1407349192301989891

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

  46. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/neandervariatus/status/1408236739819458568?s=20

    For Christ’s sake they already are! Who do think is pushing it so hard. Look at Cornyn. They got to their wives and daughters through DiAngelo and then “chivalry” and “girl power!” did the rest.

    Same way they got to W through Laura during Katrina. Killed his Presidency leading to 2006 wave.

    Upside being that this makes it radioactive for true sophisticates who are desperately looking for the next latest thing as we speak.

    Replies: @Neuday, @SunBakedSuburb

    Didn’t the Tennessee State Legislator who changed his deciding vote that ratified the 19th Amendment do so at the behest of his mother? It should be the man of the house whose political beliefs are paramount in that household, and even more so if you’re an elected official. Listening to women on political matters . . . God give us strength. Hopefully this experience of putting women in charge will be a lesson to others.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  47. There will be no video evidence of this because it doesn’t happen. Ever.

    In music, we have what is known as “inversion.” It applies to chords, intervals, etc.

    In 2021, we have “inversion reality,” where people, mainly liberal women, don’t just make stuff up, like altering your timesheet to claim extra hours or cheat on your taxes, they take stuff which is incredibly obvious to a normal person, e.g. black crime, and profess to believe the exact opposite, e.g. white supremacist domestic terrorist threat. It’s almost as if they know, subconsciously, that it will garner attention, which is all that really matters to the Instagram TikTok generation.

    This hair touching meme/trope whatever is a thing because it is an inversion of reality: Nobody wants to touch black women’s hair, because people overwhelmingly do not find black women’s hair attractive or pleasing to the touch. Black women agree with this, so they buy extensions made from the hair of Asian women. But this is 2021 so we must invert that reality.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Patrick in SC

    profess to believe the exact opposite

     

    Though it may seem crazy to you and me, they really do believe it.

    They believe every single detail, they believe with every fiber of their being. It's the nature of the beast.

  48. I think you’d be surprised how not-uncommon this actually is. It’s not common, but over the course of a black woman’s five-year career between ages 22 and 27, I would bet this happens to most of them once or twice. I say this because I’ve seed this happen three times to a former female coworker who I didn’t even spend that much time with. The hair-touchers always had perfectly fine intentions, but were all overly-gregarious frustratingly-extroverted types. One was a marketing guy where we worked. One was a business development guy at a conference. And one was a women at the same conference, but I have no clue who she was. The guys were white and the female was Asian. All touched her hair in the context of complimenting it. It was extra cringeworthy because it was a weave. Although — to be fair — I suppose it wasn’t really her hair.

    Anyhow, it was probably at least as cringeworthy for her as it was for me. But she never complained and I don’t get the sense it deeply bothered her. She’s actually reasonably successful — now in a cushy job at a FAG company — and so has no reason to turn this into a lawsuit or anything.

  49. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1408255582067253251?s=20

    The primary identity of gays is gay, women is women, blacks is black, trans is trans, but for the very small subset of straight white men who are still in charge their primary identity is President, Chairman, Senator, Chief Justice, Publisher, CEO.

    They have a very strong incentive to do everything in their power to perpetuate this state of affairs. Wokelism does just that. White identity, men’s rights, pronoun refusal, etc are a direct threat to that.

    Replies: @El Dato, @YetAnotherAnon

    Why it’s socially acceptable to read Marx and Lenin but not Nazi thinkers or modern white nationalists is an interesting question.

    Well, before “Nazism” (really, nationalist socialism) was a thing, the creation of the Soviet Union and its messanic drive to liberate the proletarians of Europe was regarded as the second coming of Christ and excited “intellectuals” and “activists” alike who had been hoping for communism to emerge from the slums and take over the world since at least the French Commune.

    When serious truths about the Soviet Union emerged in the 20s and 30s, that mood persisted. When fascism and national-socialism emerged as top-down, elite-driven reaction, that mood persisted. When fascism and national-socialism crashed & burned horribly, that mood persisted.

    So nazism/fascism has an elitist Johnny-come-lately smell to it. Can’t shake it.

    • Replies: @gent
    @El Dato

    That's an odd interpretation becasue it's the exact opposite of the truth. As always, reactionary movements are driven by the middle class. Hitler was no elite, nor Mussolini, nor Coudreanu. D'Annunzio was, cognitively, sure.
    You should be able to know them by their fruits. Who was it that slaughtered tens of millions? Not the reactionaries.

  50. @Altai
    White adults constantly touching black women's (But not black men's? It seemed to me children touched black boys hair as much maybe more but somehow it wasn't as traumatic...) is an example of reality as they'd like it to be perceived. Serious racial disparities in violent crime that exist even after accounting for class and age is an example of reality they'd rather not people understand.

    https://twitter.com/Poynter/status/1406983494941642753

    "The public good - rather than the public's interest - should be a prevailing factor." - Candidate for most Orwellian thing ever written that not even Orwell would have thought of it?

    Such policies would also have the bonus effect of driving more of the audience away from local news and to national news outlets that increasingly resemble Twitter trending feeds delivered by somebody in a suit.

    Replies: @Fluesterwitz, @New Dealer, @jon, @Rob

    Candidate for most Orwellian thing ever written

    Characterization of the day.

  51. @Reg Cæsar

    I find it hard to imagine in an adult professional work environment.
     
    Because if it happened at all, it happened in grade school. Integrated grade school.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Abolish_public_education

    Hair-touching consent forms mandatory in public schools.

    The schools are full of bullies. Nothing happens to them (administrative punishment is reserved for their victims). But zero tolerance for unauthorized hair touching (UHT).

    School districts must combat UHT. Hair gel detectors installed at every bathroom sink.

  52. As a white kindergartener in the 1960s, I was curious about the texture of the Afros of my darker male classmates, and thus would pat them atop the noggin during recess games of tag. The cushy, foamlike response differed from what I’d experience were I to autotag, so that was briefly interesting to my young self. Hardly thought it rose to the level of systemic racism. More to the level of when 600-lb Haystacks Calhoun entrapped bald Hans Schmidt in a side-headlock on Big Time Wrestling from Detroit, with Lord Athol Layton (the Vin Scully of grappling commentators) describing for us how the 0.3-tonner was enjoying the hairless smoothness of his prey.

  53. Anon[645] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Unusual news. Most of the people in that collapsed building in Florida weren’t U.S. citizens at all, but tourists from Argentina, Brazil, Venezuela and Colombia who had travelled to the U.S. to get Covid vaccines. The owner of the building was renting rooms out to tourists. This must be happening all over the U.S. in classic vacation spots like California and Florida. The President of Paraguay lost his sister-in-law in the building collapse.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9725331/Three-bodies-pulled-rubble-12-floor-Miami-condo-tower-taking-death-toll-four.html

    • Replies: @Charon
    @Anon

    Some number were tourists, but most appear to be typical Miami-region residents: marginally American at best, many non-citizens. But as we all know now, those people are much more American than you and me.

    BTW, the comments on the daily mail article were brutal before the mods descended and cleaned it up. Thought I was here or something.

    , @3g4me
    @Anon

    @53 Anon[645]: I wouldn't call that unusual for Numerica. Particularly Florida - very few actual Americans live there. I'd bet money the owner of the building is not a heritage American, either. Nor whoever recently inspected the building. Numerica is a third-world fleabag motel wearing America's skinsuit, larping as a first world country.

    , @Altai
    @Anon

    Sister-in-law and her husband and 3 children.

    A bigger question, is anyone surprised that the only major city in the US where this has happened with a building built since the 60s was Miami? (Has this sort of thing happened since the 1930s?) This building was built in 1982.

    Replies: @Ralph L

  54. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/pegobry/status/1408369037650890753?s=20

    Gratifying to see someone finally say this. I saw it at the Ivies twenty years ago - already hard to miss then. Seen it pervasively K-postgrad since.

    Where have "conservatives" been?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Forbes, @tyrone

    Watching that video, General Mark Milley is an embarrassment, and has embarrassed himself (and the military), by claiming that the Jan 6 scrum at the Capitol was a dangerous threat to overturning the constitutional republic.

    Anyone–anyone in a position of authority and responsibility–claiming that is either a puppet, or has a tenuous grip on reality–likely both.

    • Agree: donut
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Forbes

    It wasn't the Republic he was worried about them overturning, or rather he was worried about that Republic re-turning to reassert our Rights over this fat f*ck who has demonstrably usurped them. The brass allowed themselves to be led around by the nose by the media into open and documented sedition. He knows he's in real jeopardy if anyone looks too closely at what he and his buds were up to over the last year and a half.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Forbes


    Watching that video, General Mark Milley is an embarrassment, and has embarrassed himself (and the military), by claiming that the Jan 6 scrum at the Capitol was a dangerous threat to overturning the constitutional republic.
     
    Embarrassment?

    Milley is a disgrace and traitor to everything good the historical American nation stood for.
  55. After thinking about it, the only video of negress hair touching is when in fact they are assaulting each other. Weave’s make very good stabilizers when assaulting your opponent over a chicken sandwich (NSFW):

    https://leakedreality.com/video/9991/good-morning-wakanda-sheboon-fight

  56. When he got tired of dancing alone, he’d look in the mirror;
    “Gotta find a woman! Gotta find a woman! Gotta find a woman! Gotta find a woman!”
    He’d go down to the lake where all the women would be swimming or washing clothes or something.
    He’d look around and just reach in and grab one.
    “Come ’ere … come ’ere”.
    He’d grab her by the hair.
    You can’t do that today, fellas. ’Cause it might come off.
    You’d have a piece of hair in your hand and she’d be swimming away from you (ha, ha).

    • Replies: @Prof. Woland
    @the one they call Desanex

    " ... She was one of the butt sisters".

  57. Personally, I’m not so worried about black hair-touching videos as much as about black hair-raising videos. Think World Star Hip Hop.

    • Agree: UNIT472
  58. @Anon
    OT: Unusual news. Most of the people in that collapsed building in Florida weren't U.S. citizens at all, but tourists from Argentina, Brazil, Venezuela and Colombia who had travelled to the U.S. to get Covid vaccines. The owner of the building was renting rooms out to tourists. This must be happening all over the U.S. in classic vacation spots like California and Florida. The President of Paraguay lost his sister-in-law in the building collapse.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9725331/Three-bodies-pulled-rubble-12-floor-Miami-condo-tower-taking-death-toll-four.html

    Replies: @Charon, @3g4me, @Altai

    Some number were tourists, but most appear to be typical Miami-region residents: marginally American at best, many non-citizens. But as we all know now, those people are much more American than you and me.

    BTW, the comments on the daily mail article were brutal before the mods descended and cleaned it up. Thought I was here or something.

  59. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/pegobry/status/1408369037650890753?s=20

    Gratifying to see someone finally say this. I saw it at the Ivies twenty years ago - already hard to miss then. Seen it pervasively K-postgrad since.

    Where have "conservatives" been?

    Replies: @Triteleia Laxa, @Forbes, @tyrone

    “Where have “conservatives” been?”…..you mean conservative inc., they are not on your side ….. when the time comes they will help put you on the cattle car.

  60. Anon[203] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Charles Murray has been interviewed by Glenn Loury, who read and understood his book:

    Also, a week ago a young education nerd interviewed Murray, in his home, but about his 2009 book, Real Education: Four Simple Truths for Bringing America’s Schools Back to Reality.

    He basically lives in Mayberry R.F.D. My family lived for a while one town over, in the city that hosts Fort Detrick, the U.S. bioweopons facility.

    I liked that education book. His four truths are

    1. Ability varies.
    2. Half of the children are below average.
    3. Too many people are going to college.
    4. America’s future depends on how we educate the academically gifted.

    He cleverly demonstrates how cognitively challenging college is by printing half page random excerpts from various standard college introductory course textbooks. Reading that stuff is hard if you haven’t done it for a while!

    Bonus:

    The Bee Gees recorded a cover of “Out of Time,” with a 16-year-old Robin on lead vocals and with Australian go-go dancers. It’s not bad, better than the Ramones cover!:

    • Thanks: Desiderius
  61. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are no videos of Biden touching black women’s hair because black women make it absolutely clear that they want you to stay back and maybe he’s just not interested.

    Black women have a problem with hair-touching because they don’t want you to disturb the illusion – yours or theirs. Also, they know that white women’s hair is soft and theirs is not, and they know what men prefer.

    Ordinarily, career politicians need to accelerate the process by which people learn to trust, because they meet hundreds of people every day; they’re like salesmen. They do all the things people associate with intimacy, and they do them right away. They move right into your personal space, they touch you, they lean in so their face is close to your face. It’s a technique, not necessarily a personal fetish.

  62. I can’t imagine why any white person would want to touch a greasy wad of sandalwood-scented, unkempt brillo pad fur. That aside, the whole thing is just a myth anyway. Nothing of the sort actually happens in the real world.

    • Replies: @jsm
    @anon215

    I had to touch a black's hair once (to do a skull series of x-rays.) When finished, I discreetly got a tissue to wipe off the grease and then washed my hands. Still, today, I occasionally remember in the wee hours of the night and shudder.

  63. @fnn
    https://twitter.com/ScottMGreer/status/1408444860936359941

    Replies: @Barnard, @Altai

    In six months or less, he will be telling the other women he dates about his crazy ex-girlfriend. Either that or his next move will be to bring in another woman for a threesome and tell his girlfriend her soul is the one his soul found comfort in after they burned her at the stake. The bigger question is who started the “past life regression therapist” grift and how does she keep it going? Seems like your customer base would be limited.

  64. @Daniel H
    Somewhat related. One might think that the left woke would really make an effort to avoid Black stereotypes, but behold this young lady who regularly appears on Dem. Inc. waterboy Seth Meyers late night show. C'mon. This lady's schtick is Buckwheat, Butterfly McQueen and Farina all rolled into one. I wince with shame at watching this.

    https://youtu.be/KGkPbe6rNlE

    Replies: @El Dato, @Matttt

    They have finally succeeded of putting AI in a black animatronic puppet!

    Well, I hope the Aliens are real because we definitely can use some eugenics down here.

  65. @Calvin Hobbes
    Not about hair-touching, but about blacks seizing an opportunity to act like mentally ill children:

    Ikea Atlanta Juneteenth menu changed after blowback over plans to serve fried chicken, watermelon

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/ikea-atlanta-juneteenth-menu-changed-after-blowback-over-plans-to-serve-fried-chicken-watermelon

    “Retailer Ikea is under fire after one of its stores reportedly sent out a lunch menu for a Juneteenth celebration that is said to have featured certain dishes that perpetuate racial stereotypes.”

    “ The spokesperson also noted that about 20 coworkers called out.”

    Watermelon! Fried chicken! The Horror!

    An earlier version of this article said that there were black employees involved in choosing the menu.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Buffalo Joe, @SaneClownPosse

    Apparently Fried Chicken was a staple food of Slavery Times. Who knew!

    • Replies: @znon
    @El Dato

    A Colonial Maryland law said that Slaveowners were not permitted to feed them Turtle soup, Oysters or Crabs more than twice a week.

  66. The ubiquitous “they wanted to touch my hair” is subconscious sexual market signaling and presumed slight from lesser rivals rolled into one.

    It boils down to: I’m so attractive and hot that these ugly white sluts just needed touch my absolutely amazing fertility signaling sexy mane.

  67. @al gore rhythms
    @nglaer

    I suppose the left wing answer to that is that white men have 'othered' white women's hair as well as black women's hair, just in different ways. It's intersectionality all the way down, and it's all the more insidious because there's actually a kernel of truth in there which we aren't allowed to admit--we really do think of white women's and black women's hair in different ways.

    If you were the hair-touching kind you'd want to touch blonde hair because it is beautiful, whereas you would want to touch black hair out of curiosity because it is so...different.

    It must be hard for black women knowing that there is a standard of beauty in the society that they are the exact opposite of. You could understand why they might hate white women, and when they hate 'whiteness' it is more about the physical looks of white women than any abstract qualities, and maybe the hair-touching myth is a product of that.

    For black men, maybe the sense of powerlessness when being arrested by a white man is their equivalent of hair-touching and 'whiteness'.

    Replies: @Clyde

    It must be hard for black women knowing that there is a standard of beauty in the society that they are the exact opposite of. You could understand why they might hate white women….

    Black women’s beauty secret is wigs and weaves and pork and beans.

  68. @Inselaffen
    couple of years back I worked in an office with a Nigerian guy (who was seldom in) and a woman (late 20s) and she loved to 'pat' his hair (at least she would ask for permission...), so yes it's a thing I've seen.

    Replies: @Corn

    Getting “patted” by a 20something woman. I have a feeling he didn’t mind.

  69. @Cool Daddy Jimbo
    I'm surprised they would pull a starter who had a no-hitter going, short of injury. Seems like a good way to anger the baseball gods.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Hodag

    I’m surprised they would pull a starter who had a no-hitter going, short of injury. Seems like a good way to anger the baseball gods.

    Babe Ruth is co-credited with a no-hitter. He started and pitched through one out, then was ejected. His reliever finished the job.

    Ernie Shore once threw a quasi-perfect game … after Babe Ruth punched an umpire

    BABE RUTH MADE HISTORY WITH HELP FROM ERNIE SHORE

    Besides, this post is about hair. Baseball is hardly off-topic:

    https://blog.thelonghairs.us/2021-best-hair-in-baseball/

  70. Anonymous[145] • Disclaimer says:

  71. @Altai
    White adults constantly touching black women's (But not black men's? It seemed to me children touched black boys hair as much maybe more but somehow it wasn't as traumatic...) is an example of reality as they'd like it to be perceived. Serious racial disparities in violent crime that exist even after accounting for class and age is an example of reality they'd rather not people understand.

    https://twitter.com/Poynter/status/1406983494941642753

    "The public good - rather than the public's interest - should be a prevailing factor." - Candidate for most Orwellian thing ever written that not even Orwell would have thought of it?

    Such policies would also have the bonus effect of driving more of the audience away from local news and to national news outlets that increasingly resemble Twitter trending feeds delivered by somebody in a suit.

    Replies: @Fluesterwitz, @New Dealer, @jon, @Rob

    “The public good – rather than the public’s interest – should be a prevailing factor.”

    Marx-Lenin-Stalin, with the magic of dialectic, distinguished the objective interests of humanity in achieving full communism from the subjective interests of workers and other humans in attaining freedom and prosperity here and now. The latter is false consciousness. True consciousness is scientific socialism, applied by the select vanguard of activist intellectuals. That vanguard would seize the state, destroy the bourgeoisie, helping the proletariat to become the first universal class, thereby abolishing scarcity, class, money, state, etc.

    The vanguard’s rule is the democratic dictatorship of the proletariat, because it works to realize the objective interests of humanity. What could be more democratic than realizing the good of all for all time, rather than the subjective or “empirical” interests of individual workers here and now? In case you ever wonder what communists mean when they denounce the empiricist deviation, empiricism means mistakenly being responsive to the expressed, subjective, yet objectively false interests of real humans.

    Critical race theory is not identical to Marxism-Leninism, but is descended from it. It swaps in from Foucault and others multiple oppressed-oppressor struggles on top of the simple class struggle of Marx. Some have aptly called it bioleninism. It retains most of the features of Marxism-Leninism that led to the totalitarian nightmare, including the Hegelian faith that negation automatically spawns a positive (Marx strongly refused to specify how communism would work). That is how they can call for riots, looting, defunding the police, abolition of prisons, abolition of borders without considering consequences or spelling out constructive alternatives. “The arc of history.”

    Their achilles heel may be the impossibility of forming an intersectionalist vanguard party. Rather than seizing power, that party would be spending all its time contesting pokemon points. On the other hand, will there be for much longer a nonwoke ruling class that they could seize power from?

  72. @Mike Tre
    The thing is, the more black women do to try to make their hair look attractive (white), the less attractive it is. The weaves and extensions and braids and the beads and the dreads and the dye all make their hair look anything from grotesque to down right Predator alien. People naturally do not want to touch grotesque things.

    The hair touching is blacks complaining about attention they want, but don't get.

    Replies: @Clyde

    The thing is, the more black women do to try to make their hair look attractive (white), the less attractive it is. The weaves and extensions and braids and the beads and the dreads ……..

    I have gotten used to all that on black women. What kinda blows my mind is all the black men I see with long long dreads down to their shoulders. Even longer, then put into a bun or other arrangements. This is time consuming. My guess he spends 30 minutes a day on his hair just to maintain as presentable.

  73. @Anon
    OT: Unusual news. Most of the people in that collapsed building in Florida weren't U.S. citizens at all, but tourists from Argentina, Brazil, Venezuela and Colombia who had travelled to the U.S. to get Covid vaccines. The owner of the building was renting rooms out to tourists. This must be happening all over the U.S. in classic vacation spots like California and Florida. The President of Paraguay lost his sister-in-law in the building collapse.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9725331/Three-bodies-pulled-rubble-12-floor-Miami-condo-tower-taking-death-toll-four.html

    Replies: @Charon, @3g4me, @Altai

    @53 Anon[645]: I wouldn’t call that unusual for Numerica. Particularly Florida – very few actual Americans live there. I’d bet money the owner of the building is not a heritage American, either. Nor whoever recently inspected the building. Numerica is a third-world fleabag motel wearing America’s skinsuit, larping as a first world country.

  74. Steve,

    Off topic but out of all of deaths due to the building collapse in surfside, will the media even notice if all of the dead are citizens of other countries? Any guess of whether the building is owned by someone who lives outside of the U.S or whether the owners will never be held liable since they are probably out of the country.

  75. Enjoy MEN Of UNZ Comments encourages
    Anne Boleyn, starring black actress Jodie Turner-Smith, scored 1.1 out of 10, one of the worst scores on the Internet Movie Database (IMDb). Some viewers accused the authors of the show of “blackwashing” (blackwashing), others did not like the script and acting.Jun 8, 2021

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    Jun 4, 2021 — The show stars black actress Jodie Turner-Smith as Henry VIII’s doomed second wife in an alternative account of the final few months of her life.

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    Jun 4, 2021 — These figures seem even worse when compared to the 2.19 million viewers (13.2 per cent) the far lower profile Our Yorkshire Vet gained in the …

    • Replies: @Rob
    @Alden

    Just for shits and jiggles, I checked out some of those reviews, and lol. Especially the Time.news one.
    It should be https://time.news/the-series-anna-boleyn-fell-victim-to-racism-the-heroine-was-played-by-a-black-actress/ and wow, is terrible.

    I hope Time dot news is some third world English language website, not a serious western news site, because they are saving too much money having third worlders write it.

    Some highlights:


    The film is mercilessly scolded both in Britain and in Russia, however, Russians are often annoyed not quite by what the British are outraged…

    For many, the reason for such an icy reception may lie on the surface…

    The Bridgerton series, released late last year, set a precedent of sorts. The English nobility played there, including black actors, and this caused heated discussions, but in the countries of the victorious tolerance, the responses were rather positive. But apparently not everyone then could have assumed that the new rules for the selection of actors would suddenly become not just a sign of progress in the industry, but almost mandatory and not implying objections...

    In Russia, to put it mildly, they are not accustomed to the racially neutral selection of actors, so even officials allow themselves to make poster accusations of distorting history. And the audience is easier to predict transvestites in the roles of historical characters…

     

    Too easy money to be by ESL writers saved by. Write copy better Yoda could.

    It occurs to me that the Boleyn drama might have been ranked by the writing, not the casting. I can totally see a producer who has to, for some reason or another, go with a script or Director he thinks will do badly saves money and earn me-too protection by going with a non-white lead. Why he has to do the project, I duuno, so maybe this is not true.

    It is possible that this series would have bombed with a beautiful white lead. Certainly the director’s casting decision for the lead doesn’t t make me think that the other roles were well-cast.

    The producer would have saved money or made more by spending some time here at iSteve. Blacks are tilted masculine and physical/athletic. So (chucked) whites will accept male blacks as leads, especially as action leads, that is as far as it goes. Black women tilt masculine as well, and explosive strength is more appealing in men than women, and at the +3 sd of attractiveness of leading females, there are no blacks. It is a bit reverse what one would expect, white men being such racists, but I would be willing to bet that a preference for non-black women in hot-girl roles is universal. Even black women in Hollywood tend to be mulattas. Halle Berry comes to mind. Strong enough evidence that black men and women prefer less-black women,

    I know you know. I’m writing this to help all the Hollywood and BBC types who lurk here. When blacks appear on fashion mag covers, the issue sells poorly. Indicates that white/Hispanic/Asian women don’t fantasize about being black women, in the case of white women, nor do they emulate or admire them as high status, for Hispanics and Asian.

    I have no evidence, but I would Be willing to bet that the woker the white chick, the more racistly she prunes her fantasy affinity group.

    Or, y’know, series could have been crap.
  76. @Sergeant Prepper
    If there isn't any video of this ghastly phenomenon, then it just illustrates yet again how black women are made invisible in a white-supremacist-patriarchical-heteronormative-transphobic-etc-etc society.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is that this is a "heads they win, tails you lose" type of game.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “black women are made invisible”

    By what alchemy is this possible? It’d better be strong: Babylonian black magic is on the side of the black ladies. How else to explain the current shenanigans.

  77. @Anon
    OT: Unusual news. Most of the people in that collapsed building in Florida weren't U.S. citizens at all, but tourists from Argentina, Brazil, Venezuela and Colombia who had travelled to the U.S. to get Covid vaccines. The owner of the building was renting rooms out to tourists. This must be happening all over the U.S. in classic vacation spots like California and Florida. The President of Paraguay lost his sister-in-law in the building collapse.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9725331/Three-bodies-pulled-rubble-12-floor-Miami-condo-tower-taking-death-toll-four.html

    Replies: @Charon, @3g4me, @Altai

    Sister-in-law and her husband and 3 children.

    A bigger question, is anyone surprised that the only major city in the US where this has happened with a building built since the 60s was Miami? (Has this sort of thing happened since the 1930s?) This building was built in 1982.

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @Altai

    There was the Skyline Towers collapse during construction in No. Virginia that killed 14 workers in 1972. The area had been a small airport before.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyline_Towers_collapse

  78. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1408255582067253251?s=20

    The primary identity of gays is gay, women is women, blacks is black, trans is trans, but for the very small subset of straight white men who are still in charge their primary identity is President, Chairman, Senator, Chief Justice, Publisher, CEO.

    They have a very strong incentive to do everything in their power to perpetuate this state of affairs. Wokelism does just that. White identity, men’s rights, pronoun refusal, etc are a direct threat to that.

    Replies: @El Dato, @YetAnotherAnon

    Churchill read Mein Kampf and advised all Brit politicians and military to read it.

    “Know your enemy” is generally sound advice.

    But the wokerati don’t want to refute arguments, they want to cancel people, sometimes (Biden and his nukes) with extreme prejudice.

    And the people who drive the wokerati? Last thing they want is people actually reading Right people, they might agree with them. So cancellation is the order of the day.

  79. I remember a real macro aggression in the workplace about not hair, but a scalp. A black woman was standing over a White woman sitting at her computer. The black woman said, very loudly; “your scalp is white!!!!!!!Mostly women, we all laughed. Those were the days when women could talk about girl stuff without being accused of racism. As in, peachy beige nail polish for White women to blend with our skin and rust red for black women because it’s better to blend rather than contrast nail polish colors.

  80. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/neandervariatus/status/1408236739819458568?s=20

    For Christ’s sake they already are! Who do think is pushing it so hard. Look at Cornyn. They got to their wives and daughters through DiAngelo and then “chivalry” and “girl power!” did the rest.

    Same way they got to W through Laura during Katrina. Killed his Presidency leading to 2006 wave.

    Upside being that this makes it radioactive for true sophisticates who are desperately looking for the next latest thing as we speak.

    Replies: @Neuday, @SunBakedSuburb

    “For Christ’s sake they already are!”

    I admit to a bit of satisfying schadenfreude watching arrogant conservatives get outplayed by neurotic leftists. Your beloved corporations and war machine left you in the dust for the crazy chick. But please continue your conserving.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @SunBakedSuburb

    The corporation/war machine lovers are running your party now, dude.

    Jen Rubin ordering around your Attorney General is a bad look on so many levels. You have no leg whatsoever to stand on.

  81. @Redneck farmer
    It's one of those stories that happened to someone way back when, and gets repeated by people who it didn't happen to.
    We've all been forced to listen to the guy who had to work as hard as his great-great-great-grandfather. Despite everyone who knew him growing up saying he was a lazy ass.

    Replies: @tr

    Perhaps his great-great-great-grandfather was a lazy ass too.

  82. @fnn
    https://twitter.com/ScottMGreer/status/1408444860936359941

    Replies: @Barnard, @Altai

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Altai

    *praying for the arrival of the planet-killing asteroid....intensifies...*

  83. Ho hum. Another day of the long knives in Bavaria. 3 dead, 6 wounded. The perp is a Skinny from Somalia. There’s gotta be a Sailer corollary here.

    https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/25/knife-attack-germany-3-dead-wurzberg/

  84. I’ve never seen a black woman’s hair touched at work, but once my boss, a white woman, rubbed the head of the 6 year old black son of one of the secretaries and said “I wish I had a watermelon.” She later told me it had nothing to do with race, but I have to admit I was pretty amazed she’d done it.

    This boss cursed like a sailor, too, and definitely wasn’t politically correct. Her father, who ran a dry-cleaner in outer Brooklyn, had been murdered by a black guy during a robbery in the ’80s.

  85. @Cool Daddy Jimbo
    I'm surprised they would pull a starter who had a no-hitter going, short of injury. Seems like a good way to anger the baseball gods.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Hodag

    94 pitches through 6. Tie ballgame, pitcher coming up next inning. Would be managerial malpractice not to pull him. At least nowadays. Nolan Ryan would have kicked the manager’s ass.

  86. @Marcus
    Eazy-E's seminal "Boyz-N-The-Hood" apparently didn't have an official music video, but:

    Left to get my girl to rock that body
    Before I left I hit the Bacardi
    Went to her house to get her out of the pad
    Dumb ho said somethin' that made me mad
    She said somethin' that I couldn't believe
    So I grabbed the stupid bitch by her nappy-ass weave
    She started talkin' shit, wouldn't you know?
    Reached back like a pimp, slapped the ho
     

    Replies: @jon, @Redneck farmer

    Eazy-E’s seminal “Boyz-N-The-Hood” apparently didn’t have an official music video

    Sure he did:

  87. @Altai
    White adults constantly touching black women's (But not black men's? It seemed to me children touched black boys hair as much maybe more but somehow it wasn't as traumatic...) is an example of reality as they'd like it to be perceived. Serious racial disparities in violent crime that exist even after accounting for class and age is an example of reality they'd rather not people understand.

    https://twitter.com/Poynter/status/1406983494941642753

    "The public good - rather than the public's interest - should be a prevailing factor." - Candidate for most Orwellian thing ever written that not even Orwell would have thought of it?

    Such policies would also have the bonus effect of driving more of the audience away from local news and to national news outlets that increasingly resemble Twitter trending feeds delivered by somebody in a suit.

    Replies: @Fluesterwitz, @New Dealer, @jon, @Rob

    “The public good – rather than the public’s interest – should be a prevailing factor.”

    That just jumped out at me. Truly scary, when you consider the things that it can be used to justify in the future.

    • Replies: @Altai
    @jon

    It's a strange sentence since as one would traditionally understand those terms, they'd be synonymous, that in a normal country, somebody would pipe up and ask 'What's the difference?'.

    But it sounds to me like we've been groomed for so many generations and so many decades to understand the desired meaning: 'Public good' = Ethnic interests of outgroups. 'Public interest' = Ethnic interests of the ingroup, the 'legacy public' who used to just be 'the public'.

    Having a neutral non-particularist definition of the 'public good' or 'public interest' doesn't displace the legacy public fast enough.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  88. @Daniel H
    Somewhat related. One might think that the left woke would really make an effort to avoid Black stereotypes, but behold this young lady who regularly appears on Dem. Inc. waterboy Seth Meyers late night show. C'mon. This lady's schtick is Buckwheat, Butterfly McQueen and Farina all rolled into one. I wince with shame at watching this.

    https://youtu.be/KGkPbe6rNlE

    Replies: @El Dato, @Matttt

    She’s good with the buildup and interim jokes, but most of the punchlines are lame and she talks right through them.

  89. iSteve had me on the lookout for hair touching incidents. I have one to report that happened this spring.

    At the end of the day of working on Habitat for Humanity houses a young Hispanic women with black hair (I think employed by Habitat) touched the very blond hair of the Mormon Missionary (male BYU student pausing his studies for his mission). It was quite sweet. It took the missionary by surprise, as well as those of us standing around while waiting to see if there were any more tasks to finish up before departing. Apparently the touching was to stop the “evil eye” because she had coveted his hair, and needed to stop any curse by touching his hair. The other missionary mentioned something about what he had seen in Mexico, and the young lady immediately declared she was not Mexican. She did note her Grandmother was Mexican, and that is how she learned of the evil eye and the bad things that can happen if you covet something, and don’t respond with something that protects you (in this case, touching the hair you were coveting). I’m thinking that this was not taught in missionary training, but is part of the real world part of learning about another culture, even if it is in the same country.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @retrotxprof

    I could tell you about the Mexican white witchcraft that makes a man love marry and be a good provider faithful husband to the woman who wants him.
    But it’s just too gross and disgusting even for both Alden and the men of UNZ

    A lot of witchcraft involves stealing hair from a hairbrush, fingernail clippings clothes that might have flakes of skin or perspiration on them.

  90. @Marcus
    Eazy-E's seminal "Boyz-N-The-Hood" apparently didn't have an official music video, but:

    Left to get my girl to rock that body
    Before I left I hit the Bacardi
    Went to her house to get her out of the pad
    Dumb ho said somethin' that made me mad
    She said somethin' that I couldn't believe
    So I grabbed the stupid bitch by her nappy-ass weave
    She started talkin' shit, wouldn't you know?
    Reached back like a pimp, slapped the ho
     

    Replies: @jon, @Redneck farmer

    The Dynamite Hack cover is awesome.

  91. CTRL-F “Braz-” for this thread yields only an OT news report. CTRL-F “wax” brings up nothing.

    This issue has legs. Why doesn’t our discussion go deeper? Are our lips sealed? Am I just being crotchety?

  92. I confess that I would stare in awe and fascination at the long, blonde pony tails that elementary girls would weave and wear , Rapunzel like, to my school. I may have even reached out to touch them if they sat in front of me. It was a beautiful adornment I could not match.

    I also remember staring at the back of the head of the Mayor of Berkeley, California, Warren Widener, as he drove me to the Democratic National Convention in Miami in 1972. I was sitting directly behind him and, unfortunately for me, I could not avoid looking at both his hair ( in the then current Afro style) and the dirty pores on his neck.

    His hair was flecked with lint on the surface but, as the Florida sun shining in revealed, the Huey Newton length Afro revealed the dirt and debris extended much deeper into the kinky mass. It could not be combed out even with one of those steel toothed combs negroes stuck into their ‘do’. Yet is was the skin pores on the back of his neck that were really disgusting. They were clogged with long ago deposited and long forgotten dirt as if no clean water had ever reached that high on his body. It was then I decided I would become a Republican and voted for Nixon in November.

  93. Anon[424] • Disclaimer says:

    At a very small comedy open mic night I saw a teenage comedian that saw a black guy in the crowd in the crowd and seemed fascinated by his hair. The kid came off the stage and touched the black guy’s hair. The black guy became agitated and it seemed like a fight would break out, but he was talked down by other audience members who told him to give the kid a break because he was young and on drugs.

    I also had a friend that touched a black kid’s hair in high school, and the black kid responded, “hey man, don’t touch my sponge.”

    Those are the only real world scenarios I am familiar with (and they involved males rather than females).

  94. @Forbes
    @Desiderius

    Watching that video, General Mark Milley is an embarrassment, and has embarrassed himself (and the military), by claiming that the Jan 6 scrum at the Capitol was a dangerous threat to overturning the constitutional republic.

    Anyone--anyone in a position of authority and responsibility--claiming that is either a puppet, or has a tenuous grip on reality--likely both.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @The Wild Geese Howard

    It wasn’t the Republic he was worried about them overturning, or rather he was worried about that Republic re-turning to reassert our Rights over this fat f*ck who has demonstrably usurped them. The brass allowed themselves to be led around by the nose by the media into open and documented sedition. He knows he’s in real jeopardy if anyone looks too closely at what he and his buds were up to over the last year and a half.

  95. TWS says:
    @Tiny Duck
    @nglaer

    File this under stuff that never happened.

    What I want to know is WHY ARE WHITE MEN SO OBSSESSED WITH TOUCHING BLACK PEOPLE"S HAIR

    Are you jealous? Cant control yourself. Just stop.

    1. People of Color are allying to stop you

    2. asians are calling out white supremacy

    3. palestinians are blaming whites for Israel

    4. the 1619 project is being taught in schools

    5. matt gaetz is being investigated for pedophilia

    6. the 1/6 commission is continuing

    7. the military is purging right wingers

    8. it has been proven that violent protests are all done by right winagent provacatuers

    9. BLM is kicking butt and getting paid

    10. more white women are having the children of Men of Color

    11. demographics are changing rapidly

    12. many young white people don’t want to be white

    13. women are taking over

    14. everyone loves homosexuals

    15. gun laws are being formed

    Replies: @TWS

    Good to see you using your own name! You only contradicted yourself a couple times. If black men are with white women, who is with black women? I’m certain black men do not commit adultery any more than they would commit crimes. That would mean black men lack self control and dignity. That can’t be possible.

    Since you’ve pretended to be gay, A white woman, married, single I’m just going to let you make your assessment from whichever perspective you choose but please let us know which mask you’re wearing that day. Gay, straight, black, White, male, female married, single, it helps to understand your writing.

  96. I would never, ever touch a black woman’s hair, because:

    1. It almost always looks tactilely unappealing, more like a cactus than a bunny.

    2. They smell funny (hey, that’s just my perception…).

    3. It involves getting within arms reach – their arms, to be specific. That’s not prudent.

    • Agree: new Stalin
  97. There is a bonafide hair-touching video. It is none other than Chael P Sonnen. It’s at 3:55m.

    Of course, she loves it. You can hear the camera crew laughing.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    Thanks.

  98. @Patrick in SC
    There will be no video evidence of this because it doesn't happen. Ever.

    In music, we have what is known as "inversion." It applies to chords, intervals, etc.

    In 2021, we have "inversion reality," where people, mainly liberal women, don't just make stuff up, like altering your timesheet to claim extra hours or cheat on your taxes, they take stuff which is incredibly obvious to a normal person, e.g. black crime, and profess to believe the exact opposite, e.g. white supremacist domestic terrorist threat. It's almost as if they know, subconsciously, that it will garner attention, which is all that really matters to the Instagram TikTok generation.

    This hair touching meme/trope whatever is a thing because it is an inversion of reality: Nobody wants to touch black women's hair, because people overwhelmingly do not find black women's hair attractive or pleasing to the touch. Black women agree with this, so they buy extensions made from the hair of Asian women. But this is 2021 so we must invert that reality.

    Replies: @Polistra

    profess to believe the exact opposite

    Though it may seem crazy to you and me, they really do believe it.

    They believe every single detail, they believe with every fiber of their being. It’s the nature of the beast.

  99. Where in hell did this ludicrous trope about White people wishing to touch black women’s skanky, unwashed, frizzy hair even COME from? I know of no White person who has any interest whatsoever in contacting such a disgusting, unsanitary rat’s nest. We’ve got our own pubes, thank you very much.

    • Agree: new Stalin
  100. @Calvin Hobbes
    Not about hair-touching, but about blacks seizing an opportunity to act like mentally ill children:

    Ikea Atlanta Juneteenth menu changed after blowback over plans to serve fried chicken, watermelon

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/ikea-atlanta-juneteenth-menu-changed-after-blowback-over-plans-to-serve-fried-chicken-watermelon

    “Retailer Ikea is under fire after one of its stores reportedly sent out a lunch menu for a Juneteenth celebration that is said to have featured certain dishes that perpetuate racial stereotypes.”

    “ The spokesperson also noted that about 20 coworkers called out.”

    Watermelon! Fried chicken! The Horror!

    An earlier version of this article said that there were black employees involved in choosing the menu.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Buffalo Joe, @SaneClownPosse

    Calvin, just too funny because when one of the woke food program hosts, such as andrew zimmern, goes to the South to sample ‘soul food’, well the menu is fried chicken, collard greens, grits and sweet potato pie. Kinda of like going to Cleveland’s Little Italy and being shocked that they are serving pasta and cannolis.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
    @Buffalo Joe

    Some "soul food" was stuff that the plantation owners wouldn't eat, pigs knuckles, okra, and the like.

    I don't quite know how to process that the foods, that they "celebrate", are reminders of their servitude and mistreatment at the hands of the slave owners.

    One black kid in St Paul, in the late 1960's, told me that he hated soul food, he liked to eat steak and potatoes.

    Replies: @anon

  101. @Calvin Hobbes
    Not about hair-touching, but about blacks seizing an opportunity to act like mentally ill children:

    Ikea Atlanta Juneteenth menu changed after blowback over plans to serve fried chicken, watermelon

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/ikea-atlanta-juneteenth-menu-changed-after-blowback-over-plans-to-serve-fried-chicken-watermelon

    “Retailer Ikea is under fire after one of its stores reportedly sent out a lunch menu for a Juneteenth celebration that is said to have featured certain dishes that perpetuate racial stereotypes.”

    “ The spokesperson also noted that about 20 coworkers called out.”

    Watermelon! Fried chicken! The Horror!

    An earlier version of this article said that there were black employees involved in choosing the menu.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Buffalo Joe, @SaneClownPosse

    That’s Atlanta’s staple diet. Add sweet tea to the menu for a trifecta.

    Is it a racial stereotype, if that’s what they commonly like to eat?

    Odds are that it was a leftist non-POC woman who initiated the negative reaction on their behalf.

  102. @Altai
    @Anon

    Sister-in-law and her husband and 3 children.

    A bigger question, is anyone surprised that the only major city in the US where this has happened with a building built since the 60s was Miami? (Has this sort of thing happened since the 1930s?) This building was built in 1982.

    Replies: @Ralph L

    There was the Skyline Towers collapse during construction in No. Virginia that killed 14 workers in 1972. The area had been a small airport before.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyline_Towers_collapse

  103. I love to, listen to Beethoven.

  104. @Buffalo Joe
    @Calvin Hobbes

    Calvin, just too funny because when one of the woke food program hosts, such as andrew zimmern, goes to the South to sample 'soul food', well the menu is fried chicken, collard greens, grits and sweet potato pie. Kinda of like going to Cleveland's Little Italy and being shocked that they are serving pasta and cannolis.

    Replies: @SaneClownPosse

    Some “soul food” was stuff that the plantation owners wouldn’t eat, pigs knuckles, okra, and the like.

    I don’t quite know how to process that the foods, that they “celebrate”, are reminders of their servitude and mistreatment at the hands of the slave owners.

    One black kid in St Paul, in the late 1960’s, told me that he hated soul food, he liked to eat steak and potatoes.

    • Replies: @anon
    @SaneClownPosse

    Some “soul food” was stuff that the plantation owners wouldn’t eat, pigs knuckles, okra, and the like.

    During Reconstruction and for a couple of generations afterwards almost everyone in the South ate the same fare. Offer "soul food" to poor whites of the 1930's and it would probably already be on their table. Poor black people and poor white people had quite a lot in common, although we now are told that there are no poor wypipo at all.

    Trivia: Chicory as a substitute for coffee was a product of the War, but it persisted into the 20th century and is still mixed into some Louisiana coffees. It is an acquired taste, as with many ersatz things.

  105. https://twitter.com/RedPilledPoland/status/1408419979159126016?s=20

    When the racial wreckening started last year it was pretty clear by the way Esper was acting that some part of the military was at least involved if not behind the whole thing and I laughed thinking that THIS was their plan to unite the country in case we needed to go to war to protect Taiwan or whatever and that they really thought that BLM would bring people together.

    Well it did bring some people together for a time, in the same way Nike promoting Kaepernick boosted their profits. It brought together the team that fortified the Selection, and it brought together the fútbol class of the countries of the American Commonwealth around their common disdain for regular American whites and whatever it is they imagine that we stand for, just as the Kaepernick stunt did.

    Gratified to see the people of the world rising up now against bigotry and hate and the imperialism of the GAE.

  106. My best guess is that it happens from time to time; probably more often in elementary school, and less often as an adult.

    The real issue is that such occurrences are upsetting, because nobody likes being a minority, especially when their identity is considered the “less preferred” identity. In that case, relatively harmless events (i.e. microaggressions) are amplified and perceived as threatening or offensive.

    The same level of offense, in a homogeneous environment, would scarcely be noticed.

  107. @El Dato
    @Desiderius


    Why it’s socially acceptable to read Marx and Lenin but not Nazi thinkers or modern white nationalists is an interesting question.
     
    Well, before "Nazism" (really, nationalist socialism) was a thing, the creation of the Soviet Union and its messanic drive to liberate the proletarians of Europe was regarded as the second coming of Christ and excited "intellectuals" and "activists" alike who had been hoping for communism to emerge from the slums and take over the world since at least the French Commune.

    When serious truths about the Soviet Union emerged in the 20s and 30s, that mood persisted. When fascism and national-socialism emerged as top-down, elite-driven reaction, that mood persisted. When fascism and national-socialism crashed & burned horribly, that mood persisted.

    So nazism/fascism has an elitist Johnny-come-lately smell to it. Can't shake it.

    Replies: @gent

    That’s an odd interpretation becasue it’s the exact opposite of the truth. As always, reactionary movements are driven by the middle class. Hitler was no elite, nor Mussolini, nor Coudreanu. D’Annunzio was, cognitively, sure.
    You should be able to know them by their fruits. Who was it that slaughtered tens of millions? Not the reactionaries.

  108. @Anon
    There is a bonafide hair-touching video. It is none other than Chael P Sonnen. It's at 3:55m.

    Of course, she loves it. You can hear the camera crew laughing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QZtVbOb3G4&t=210s

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks.

  109. anon[396] • Disclaimer says:
    @SaneClownPosse
    @Buffalo Joe

    Some "soul food" was stuff that the plantation owners wouldn't eat, pigs knuckles, okra, and the like.

    I don't quite know how to process that the foods, that they "celebrate", are reminders of their servitude and mistreatment at the hands of the slave owners.

    One black kid in St Paul, in the late 1960's, told me that he hated soul food, he liked to eat steak and potatoes.

    Replies: @anon

    Some “soul food” was stuff that the plantation owners wouldn’t eat, pigs knuckles, okra, and the like.

    During Reconstruction and for a couple of generations afterwards almost everyone in the South ate the same fare. Offer “soul food” to poor whites of the 1930’s and it would probably already be on their table. Poor black people and poor white people had quite a lot in common, although we now are told that there are no poor wypipo at all.

    Trivia: Chicory as a substitute for coffee was a product of the War, but it persisted into the 20th century and is still mixed into some Louisiana coffees. It is an acquired taste, as with many ersatz things.

  110. @jon
    @Altai


    “The public good – rather than the public’s interest – should be a prevailing factor.”
     
    That just jumped out at me. Truly scary, when you consider the things that it can be used to justify in the future.

    Replies: @Altai

    It’s a strange sentence since as one would traditionally understand those terms, they’d be synonymous, that in a normal country, somebody would pipe up and ask ‘What’s the difference?’.

    But it sounds to me like we’ve been groomed for so many generations and so many decades to understand the desired meaning: ‘Public good’ = Ethnic interests of outgroups. ‘Public interest’ = Ethnic interests of the ingroup, the ‘legacy public’ who used to just be ‘the public’.

    Having a neutral non-particularist definition of the ‘public good’ or ‘public interest’ doesn’t displace the legacy public fast enough.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Altai

    Wants v needs, at least from the perspective of the writer, with who decides also being the hidden question.

  111. Even Joe Biden has never been caught touching or sniffing a black woman’s hair.

  112. @Forbes
    @Desiderius

    Watching that video, General Mark Milley is an embarrassment, and has embarrassed himself (and the military), by claiming that the Jan 6 scrum at the Capitol was a dangerous threat to overturning the constitutional republic.

    Anyone--anyone in a position of authority and responsibility--claiming that is either a puppet, or has a tenuous grip on reality--likely both.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Watching that video, General Mark Milley is an embarrassment, and has embarrassed himself (and the military), by claiming that the Jan 6 scrum at the Capitol was a dangerous threat to overturning the constitutional republic.

    Embarrassment?

    Milley is a disgrace and traitor to everything good the historical American nation stood for.

  113. @Altai
    @fnn

    https://twitter.com/MKUltraMoney/status/1407349192301989891

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    *praying for the arrival of the planet-killing asteroid….intensifies…*

  114. @retrotxprof
    iSteve had me on the lookout for hair touching incidents. I have one to report that happened this spring.

    At the end of the day of working on Habitat for Humanity houses a young Hispanic women with black hair (I think employed by Habitat) touched the very blond hair of the Mormon Missionary (male BYU student pausing his studies for his mission). It was quite sweet. It took the missionary by surprise, as well as those of us standing around while waiting to see if there were any more tasks to finish up before departing. Apparently the touching was to stop the "evil eye" because she had coveted his hair, and needed to stop any curse by touching his hair. The other missionary mentioned something about what he had seen in Mexico, and the young lady immediately declared she was not Mexican. She did note her Grandmother was Mexican, and that is how she learned of the evil eye and the bad things that can happen if you covet something, and don't respond with something that protects you (in this case, touching the hair you were coveting). I'm thinking that this was not taught in missionary training, but is part of the real world part of learning about another culture, even if it is in the same country.

    Replies: @Alden

    I could tell you about the Mexican white witchcraft that makes a man love marry and be a good provider faithful husband to the woman who wants him.
    But it’s just too gross and disgusting even for both Alden and the men of UNZ

    A lot of witchcraft involves stealing hair from a hairbrush, fingernail clippings clothes that might have flakes of skin or perspiration on them.

  115. Hard for me to think of it as as fake as most of the commenters, since I’ve done it myself. Didn’t know it was a thing. Seems to me like something the praisers of diversity should appreciate.

  116. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Desiderius

    "For Christ's sake they already are!"

    I admit to a bit of satisfying schadenfreude watching arrogant conservatives get outplayed by neurotic leftists. Your beloved corporations and war machine left you in the dust for the crazy chick. But please continue your conserving.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    The corporation/war machine lovers are running your party now, dude.

    Jen Rubin ordering around your Attorney General is a bad look on so many levels. You have no leg whatsoever to stand on.

  117. @Altai
    @jon

    It's a strange sentence since as one would traditionally understand those terms, they'd be synonymous, that in a normal country, somebody would pipe up and ask 'What's the difference?'.

    But it sounds to me like we've been groomed for so many generations and so many decades to understand the desired meaning: 'Public good' = Ethnic interests of outgroups. 'Public interest' = Ethnic interests of the ingroup, the 'legacy public' who used to just be 'the public'.

    Having a neutral non-particularist definition of the 'public good' or 'public interest' doesn't displace the legacy public fast enough.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Wants v needs, at least from the perspective of the writer, with who decides also being the hidden question.

  118. @the one they call Desanex
    When he got tired of dancing alone, he'd look in the mirror;
    “Gotta find a woman! Gotta find a woman! Gotta find a woman! Gotta find a woman!”
    He'd go down to the lake where all the women would be swimming or washing clothes or something.
    He'd look around and just reach in and grab one.
    “Come ’ere ... come ’ere”.
    He'd grab her by the hair.
    You can't do that today, fellas. ’Cause it might come off.
    You'd have a piece of hair in your hand and she'd be swimming away from you (ha, ha).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNS42Na2mpc

    Replies: @Prof. Woland

    ” … She was one of the butt sisters”.

  119. @anon215
    I can't imagine why any white person would want to touch a greasy wad of sandalwood-scented, unkempt brillo pad fur. That aside, the whole thing is just a myth anyway. Nothing of the sort actually happens in the real world.

    Replies: @jsm

    I had to touch a black’s hair once (to do a skull series of x-rays.) When finished, I discreetly got a tissue to wipe off the grease and then washed my hands. Still, today, I occasionally remember in the wee hours of the night and shudder.

  120. @El Dato
    @Calvin Hobbes

    Apparently Fried Chicken was a staple food of Slavery Times. Who knew!

    Replies: @znon

    A Colonial Maryland law said that Slaveowners were not permitted to feed them Turtle soup, Oysters or Crabs more than twice a week.

  121. I used to work in a call center with lots of blacks, and my office would always get left-behind cell phones turned in; they were always covered in some kind of greasy film. I wouldn’t touch their hair with a bargepole.

  122. I lived in Oakland in the 80’s and had to use the bus occasionally. There was always one window with a grease stain from someone leaning against the window. I couldn’t imagine wanting to touch a black person’s hair. It’s usually not their real hair anyway.

  123. @Altai
    White adults constantly touching black women's (But not black men's? It seemed to me children touched black boys hair as much maybe more but somehow it wasn't as traumatic...) is an example of reality as they'd like it to be perceived. Serious racial disparities in violent crime that exist even after accounting for class and age is an example of reality they'd rather not people understand.

    https://twitter.com/Poynter/status/1406983494941642753

    "The public good - rather than the public's interest - should be a prevailing factor." - Candidate for most Orwellian thing ever written that not even Orwell would have thought of it?

    Such policies would also have the bonus effect of driving more of the audience away from local news and to national news outlets that increasingly resemble Twitter trending feeds delivered by somebody in a suit.

    Replies: @Fluesterwitz, @New Dealer, @jon, @Rob

    In that quote, here is what I read:

    Local news reporters have amplified narratives that connect Black and brown communities to crime. As a result, we have fostered systemic racism through our crime …

    I was so impressed! Here was a man (or woman (or they!) who understands the origin of racism in Americans under 60 HBDers excepted (and most of us do not harbor ill will towards bipoc) we don’t hate them. We are frightened of them, because they are dangerous. If non-whites listen to this Tweeter, racism will be solved in no time.

    Then I continued reading.

    …coverage

    And I thought ‘oh no!’ this is not a based bipoc! This is Cucky, or Cucky II, or even Bride of Cucky. This is man/woman/they who thinks if whites stop seeing reality on tv, then reality will either go away, or everyone who thinks bipocs are crime-prone will think he/she/they is the only one, and probably crazy to boot.

    So, America is not getting saved by that Tweet!

  124. Rob says:
    @Alden
    Enjoy MEN Of UNZ Comments encourages
    Anne Boleyn, starring black actress Jodie Turner-Smith, scored 1.1 out of 10, one of the worst scores on the Internet Movie Database (IMDb). Some viewers accused the authors of the show of “blackwashing” (blackwashing), others did not like the script and acting.Jun 8, 2021

    Bad script, terrible game: viewers crashed the ratings of black ...https://newscpain.com › Culture
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    The series “Anna Boleyn” fell victim to racism: the heroine was ...https://time.news › Entertainment
    Jun 8, 2021 — + A - The project received the lowest ratings There are only three ... Anne Boleyn, but they caused a disproportionate amount of anger. ... The series “Anna Boleyn” fell victim to racism: the heroine was played by a black actress.

    Anne Boleyn drama a ratings flop for Channel 5 - Media Molehttps://www.mediamole.co.uk › TV Ratings › News
    Jun 4, 2021 — The show stars black actress Jodie Turner-Smith as Henry VIII's doomed second wife in an alternative account of the final few months of her life.

    Anne Boleyn viewers are left 'unimpressed' and 'bored' during ...https://www.dailymail.co.uk › article-9642369 › Anne-...
    Jun 1, 2021 — First episode: Anne Boleyn viewers were left 'unimpressed' and 'bored' on ... reflects on being the first black actress to be cast as Anne Boleyn · BAZ BAMIGBOYE: Lola ... And things go from bad to worse when the doomed queen walks in on Jane sitting on Henry's ... Newest; Oldest; Best rated; Worst rated.

    Anne Boleyn drama branded 'dull' as viewers switch off over ...https://www.express.co.uk › ... › TV & Radio
    Jun 2, 2021 — ANNE BOLEYN viewers were left disappointed as fans spotted several 'historical inaccuracies' in the first episode of the Channel 5 drama.

    Analysis: Hype fails to boost Anne Boleyn viewing numbers |https://advanced-television.com › 2021/06/04 › analysis...
    Jun 4, 2021 — These figures seem even worse when compared to the 2.19 million viewers (13.2 per cent) the far lower profile Our Yorkshire Vet gained in the ...

    Replies: @Rob

    Just for shits and jiggles, I checked out some of those reviews, and lol. Especially the Time.news one.
    It should be https://time.news/the-series-anna-boleyn-fell-victim-to-racism-the-heroine-was-played-by-a-black-actress/ and wow, is terrible.

    I hope Time dot news is some third world English language website, not a serious western news site, because they are saving too much money having third worlders write it.

    Some highlights:

    The film is mercilessly scolded both in Britain and in Russia, however, Russians are often annoyed not quite by what the British are outraged…

    For many, the reason for such an icy reception may lie on the surface…

    The Bridgerton series, released late last year, set a precedent of sorts. The English nobility played there, including black actors, and this caused heated discussions, but in the countries of the victorious tolerance, the responses were rather positive. But apparently not everyone then could have assumed that the new rules for the selection of actors would suddenly become not just a sign of progress in the industry, but almost mandatory and not implying objections…

    In Russia, to put it mildly, they are not accustomed to the racially neutral selection of actors, so even officials allow themselves to make poster accusations of distorting history. And the audience is easier to predict transvestites in the roles of historical characters…

    Too easy money to be by ESL writers saved by. Write copy better Yoda could.

    It occurs to me that the Boleyn drama might have been ranked by the writing, not the casting. I can totally see a producer who has to, for some reason or another, go with a script or Director he thinks will do badly saves money and earn me-too protection by going with a non-white lead. Why he has to do the project, I duuno, so maybe this is not true.

    It is possible that this series would have bombed with a beautiful white lead. Certainly the director’s casting decision for the lead doesn’t t make me think that the other roles were well-cast.

    The producer would have saved money or made more by spending some time here at iSteve. Blacks are tilted masculine and physical/athletic. So (chucked) whites will accept male blacks as leads, especially as action leads, that is as far as it goes. Black women tilt masculine as well, and explosive strength is more appealing in men than women, and at the +3 sd of attractiveness of leading females, there are no blacks. It is a bit reverse what one would expect, white men being such racists, but I would be willing to bet that a preference for non-black women in hot-girl roles is universal. Even black women in Hollywood tend to be mulattas. Halle Berry comes to mind. Strong enough evidence that black men and women prefer less-black women,

    I know you know. I’m writing this to help all the Hollywood and BBC types who lurk here. When blacks appear on fashion mag covers, the issue sells poorly. Indicates that white/Hispanic/Asian women don’t fantasize about being black women, in the case of white women, nor do they emulate or admire them as high status, for Hispanics and Asian.

    I have no evidence, but I would Be willing to bet that the woker the white chick, the more racistly she prunes her fantasy affinity group.

    Or, y’know, series could have been crap.

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