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Back in 2008 it finally dawned on me that the popular phrases “white guilt” and “Jewish guilt” have functionally opposite meanings:

In other words, in the classic example of Jewish guilt, [Philip Roth's] Portnoy’s Complaint, Jewish guilt is the opposite of white guilt: Portnoy’s feelings of Jewish guilt stem not from his ancestors being too ethnocentric (as in “white guilt”) but from himself not being ethnocentric enough to please his ancestors. His parents make him feel guilty because he’s individualistically ignoring his racial duty to settle down and propagate the Jewish race.

Orwell’s 1984 emphasizes the difficulties humans have in thinking about phenomena for which they lack names, and the usefulness to power of constricted vocabularies. For example, Orwell explains that in the future The Party will have eradicated all the ideological terms in Thomas Jefferson’s vocabulary and replaced them with one word: “crimethink.”

That got me thinking about the virtual non-existence of the mirror image term to “anti-Semitism:” “anti-Gentilism.”

I used the New York Times’ search engine to discover that the last time the Times ever used the term “anti-Gentilism” was before I was born, in a review of a 1958 novel by the hard-working author Jerome Weidman, The Enemy Camp:

New York Times Book Review

June 15, 1958

“The Education of George Hurst”

The Enemy Camp, By Jerome Weidman, 561 pp. New York: Random House. $4.95

Reviewed by John Brooks

One of the most familiar starting-points of the great American success story is the lower East Side of New York City. From it have come a disproportionate number of our most illustrious citizens in business, finance, entertainment, the arts, science, politics — almost every field imaginable. A compelling aspect of the irresistible old story in this particular setting is that there is so often a special twist. The twist, of course, is the issue of religious prejudice: specifically, anti-Semitism and its opposite, anti-Gentilism.

As this sentence suggests, the existence of “anti-Gentilism” seems logically inevitable, given the much publicized existence of “anti-Semitism.” And yet the phrase hasn’t appeared in the New York Times in 57 years.

“The Enemy Camp,” a Book-of-the-Month Club selection for July, is a large, rich novel about anti-Gentilism, done in broad strokes, full of plot and exaggeration, and infused with considerable passion held in fine restraint. In much of Jerome Weidman’s earlier writing about young men on the make (like his memorable first novel, “I Can Get It for You Wholesale”), his heroes have seemed to be only fleetingly concerned with moral or ethical questions: the reader’s interest in them derived chiefly from their appalling singleness of purpose and the intricate techniques they use to advances themselves. In “The Enemy Camp” the situation is more complex. The hero has been divided into two men — one by nature moral, the other amoral. The clash between the two keeps the pot boiling.

The good boy is George Hurst, adopted from a Houston Street orphanage at the age of 3 by the proprietor of a tailor shop on East Fourth Street, a woman he comes call Aunt Tessie. … The bad boy is Danny Schoor (later Shaw), George’s childhood neighbor, pal and idol. The battle line of the neighborhood is all too clearly drawn: on one side of the street is Gerrity’s saloon, patronized by the Gentiles, the shutzkim — the enemy camp. On the other side, in a world of bagels and lox, live two kinds of Jews: those who, like Aunt Tessie, hate the shutzkim out of nothing less than a sense of mission, and those who, like Danny, make a vocation of currying the enemy’s favor in the interest of getting ahead.

… When Mr. Weidman’s largely bitter tale comes to its provisionally happy end, it is George, the good boy who would not traffic with shutzkim, who is happily married to one of the them and occupying a firm position in a relatively prejudice-free world; while Danny, the unscrupulous shutzkim-lover, is, for all his riches, still an outcast clawing for respectability. Does Mr. Weidman intend this as the final cosmic jest. He leaves it for us to judge.

This seems like a pretty reasonable book review, and it demonstrates that “anti-Gentilism” is a useful term for a public intellectual to have in his conceptual toolkit for describing the world, especially the part of the world centering on New York City.

But June 15, 1958 was the last time “anti-Gentilism” appeared in the New York Times. So I guess not.

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I wonder why this useful term has disappeared down the Memory Hole. Perhaps I’ve forgotten the anti-Semitic pogrom in Gramercy Park on June 16, 1958 staged by readers brandishing copies of the New York Times Book Review. (I think the anti-Semitic mob was led by John Updike. That did happen, right?)

In contrast, the New York Times has used the term “anti-Semitism” 11,059 times since June 16, 1958:

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So, 11,059 to 0 over the last 57+ years.

From Mel Gussow’s 1995 obituary for novelist Weidman in the NYT:

Jerome Weidman, the prolific and popular novelist who wrote ”I Can Get It for You Wholesale” and also won a Pulitzer Prize as the author (with George Abbott) of the Broadway musical ”Fiorello!,” died yesterday at his home in Manhattan. He was 85.

In his two prosperous careers as novelist and playwright, Mr. Weidman often wrote about the rough underside of business and politics — and daily life — in New York, the city in which he was born. His first novel, ”I Can Get It for You Wholesale,” published in 1937 when he was 24, teemed with the life in Manhattan’s garment center, telling about the rise of the ragingly ambitious Harry Bogen. Along with the title character in Budd Schulberg’s ”What Makes Sammy Run?,” Harry became an archetypal figure in American literature: the abrasive young man who would do anything to get ahead.

… The novel made his reputation and became his longest running success. Transformed into a Broadway musical in 1962 (with a score by Harold Rome), it starred Elliott Gould as Harry Bogen, and was the show in which Barbra Streisand made her Broadway debut (as the secretary Miss Marmelstein). …

Mr. Weidman’s first novel became the hallmark of his career, and also a subject of controversy. There were those like Meyer Levin who thought of him, along with Mr. Schulberg, as examples of ”the self-hating period in writing,” as novelists who wrote too negatively about their Jewish backgrounds.

Is the phrase “self-hating” ever used to discourage Gentile artists from criticizing Gentile businessmen? Is Orson Welles denounced as self-hating for parodying William Randolph Hearst in Citizen Kane?

 
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  1. Can you find it in other sources of the era? National Review before the 60s or so, for example? The NYT isn’t exactly the first place I’d look.

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    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    The NYT is precisely the right place to look for conversations on Jewish attitudes to Gentiles and vice versa. It claims it's both the "newspaper of record" of the full spectrum of American public life and the local newspaper for a city with the largest Jewish population outside Israel.

    Let's just say, hypothetically of course, that the NYT discussed Jewish/Gentile relations quite a bit over the last 60yrs. I know we're now in the realm of wild hypotheticals and alternate historical timelines but let's just imagine a world in which the NYT sees the passing cavalcade of human events through a Jewish-American lens. Wouldn't it seem natural for them to mention the yin to anti-Semitism's yang - the salt to its pepper - every decade or so? Give me break.
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  2. The self-hating Jew is a real phenomenon. It’s not a fair description in many cases (I have no idea about Jerome Weidman), but I know it when I see it. The self-hating white is becoming so commonplace that even Bill Maher is ridiculing them.

    It’s interesting that you bring up William Randolph Hearst. In Deadwood, his father George Hearst was treated infinitely worse. I’m not sure who is to blame, the show creator David Milch (who happens to be Jewish in case anyone is keeping score), or the season 3 writers. It sure was brutal.

    I was in Shanghai in a cab a few years after Deadwood aired. By then, most cabs had tv screens on the back of the front seats. I was watching an ad and noticed it was supplied by the Hearst Corporation. I thought how amazing it was that 160+ years after George Hearst started building his dynasty, his empire lives on across the planet. The chairman of the Hearst Corporation is William Randolph Hearst III.

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    • Replies: @Lot

    The self-hating white is becoming so commonplace that even Bill Maher is ridiculing them.
     
    Yes, two days ago Maher closed the show with an anti-anti-racist tirade about self-hating white liberals. As part of it he also criticized the "doofus dad" anti-white male trope used endlessly in TV and advertising.

    He really gets away with a lot:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLD2xzAX8Aw
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  3. Jews quite helpfully came up with the concept of Projection…and it’s everywhere. “Supremacists”, ‘blood libel’. The lack of insight is appalling, psychotic.

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  4. I definitely feel the sentiment, but part of the trouble is that the demographic I think you are concerned about when raising this is non-Jewish white people, right Steve? It’s not Gentiles specifically, and it’s probably not whites although when we talk about anti-White activity that’s 90% the way there. Jews are what, 2% of white people or something like that in the USA? Maybe 3-4% given that the 2% figure from memory applies to all of the USA rather than just the white people.

    Anyway, if some guy coincidentally named Cohen writes an article about the unbearable whiteness of X, what do we call it? Is it anti-Gentilism or Anti-Whitism? My guess is that he doesn’t write equivalently hatey articles about the stifling brownness of the kitchen hands of every eatery in the USA, or the horrible blackness of the NBA etc. So to my mind, calling his article anti-White captures the target of his animus pretty well. Is he going to complain “How can I be anti-white, I’m white myself, aren’t I?”? Well, he could do this but he’s just playing semantics. The term is 96%+ of the way there.

    OTOH, anti-Gentilism really doesn’t capture this because he doesn’t care if so-called redneck whites are doing poorly because they have to compete in a rigged game with non-white Gentiles, or if all the Ivy League schools have quotas such that 10% of the student body is now white and the other 90% are various non-whites… so long as the Jews are taken care of.

    Anti-white Gentilism is of course, more accurate but I think for most purposes anti-white suffices.

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    • Replies: @Anonymous Nephew
    "part of the trouble is that the demographic I think you are concerned about when raising this is non-Jewish white people, right Steve?"

    Steve's written a fair bit about BDS (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions) in relation to Israel and how the movement is growing fastest on campuses where white students are losing influence as demographics change.

    In the UK the new black and pro-Palestinian president of the National Union of Students (traditionally a gateway to a career in politics and/or media) is getting the same treatment (and more) from the liberal media and well-organised pressure groups as the white and pro-Palestinian leader of the Labour Party is getting.

    http://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/apr/22/malia-bouattia-election-nus-president-deeply-divisive-jewish-student-groups
    , @Lot

    Anti-white Gentilism is of course, more accurate but I think for most purposes anti-white suffices.
     
    I agree with that. Steve writes a lot about the hypocrisy of various Jews who support ethno-nationalism for Israel but not for whites in the USA or Europe.

    I agree with him that they are wrong and hypocrites. However, it is a strange focus because we are not really talking about too large group, and the vast majority of Jews are either consistently anti-white or consistently pro-white.

    Trump v Kasich/Rubio was a pretty good test of whether you are OK with the demographic destruction of white America or not, and Jew-heavy New York gave Trump some of his best numbers, as did Florida. (A vote for Cruz is hard to categorize. He really is better than most Republicans, but he's also oily about the issue and seems to favor a very large increase in "guest workers" and H1B.)
    , @Glaivester
    I think the proper term ought to be "antijaphetism." When we are talking about Jewish bias against white Gentiles, I think the best thing to do is to use the terminology that is linguistically the most equivalent. (For a more general distrust of non-Jews, antigentilism might do).

    "Antisemitism" essentially refers to Jew's origins as the descendants of Shem; biblically, white Gentiles are descendants of Japheth, so the proper term would be antijaphetism (I think making the last "t" hard improves the flow of the word - besides, we don't call it "antishemitism").

    I also think it sounds better than "antiwhitism," because using the English word in a term such as that makes it sound more made up (e.g. when classifying new phobias, people find an equivalent or as close as possible Greek word for the prefix rather than just using the English word - coulrophobia instead of clownophobia).

    It also makes it easier to criticize such bias where it is found because to the extent that anti-white Gentile bias is a motivating factor, you can criticize that rather than criticizing "Jews" in general - plus, it gives you a nifty term to use to refer to Jews who are friendly to white Gentiles or who see their interests as compatible - philojaphetic.
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  5. So 1958 WASPish. The Times couldn’t even do a good transliteration of Yiddish. The term “shutzkim” is more accurately rendered as shgotzim (shkotzim, etc.). It is the plural of shegetz (sheketz, shaigetz, shaygetz) which means “abomination” (or more colloquially, a young non-Jewish male). The corresponding female term is “shiksa”, with which we are more familiar.

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    Shkutzim would have been close enough but was perhaps a bit of a tongue twister for an English speaker. The writer just misplaced the k. We don't have a "shkoo" sound in English but Shutz,Kim is doable. Wasn't there a Kim Shutz in my high school? The English have mutilated more foreign words than some languages have in total. Except maybe for Japanese I can't think of any language that is so full of mutilated foreign words. We are willing to mutilate words from any language - native American, Spanish, French, Latin, etc.

    This reminds me of my elderly WASP sociology professor in the 1970s who one day started teaching us about SHAD CHENS. The Shad Chen does this, the Shad Chen does that. After a while, I realized he was not referring to either a fish or the name of a Chinese person but was trying to say the Yiddish word for matchmaker or marriage broker, which is pronounced something like SHODkhrin. That was the moment I realized that he had no idea what he was really saying in any language and the stuff he had been telling us about Amish, Tahitians, etc. was all probably just as wrong.
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  6. I find the term “gentile” to be insulting. Call me goy.

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    We need to take the term back! It could be our "n-word".
    , @Anonymous
    I also think the word Gentile is kind of insulting. I usually feel uncomfortable using it.
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  7. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Since white gentiles are the solid majority of the country at about approx. 65% of the population why do you want to encourage the newspaper of record to rally the majority people against minority opponents? (White gentiles who are leftists are not anti-gentiles, they are self-hating.)

    The only people who can be anti-gentiles are minorities. Why do you want to fire up the majority against those minorities? Do you not understand the policy reasons for suppressing majority unity expressed in racial animus against others? Or more likely do you just not care?

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    The only people who can be anti-gentiles are minorities. Why do you want to fire up the majority against those minorities? Do you not understand the policy reasons for suppressing majority unity expressed in racial animus against others?

    Isn't that it in a nutshell? We cannot be allowed to feel unity or confidence because it endangers minorities and these minorities reserve the right to actively handicap us. I really don't think that was the deal we all agreed to back when Jews were given full civil rights. The Duke of Wellington was right about this. It's a bit late to change it now though. The best the rest of us can do is come to understand institutions like the NYT are playing by the rules you describe and conduct ourselves accordingly.
    , @Pericles
    It's better to reduce the amount of hatred in society regardless of source, don't you agree?
    , @Anonymous

    Since white gentiles are the solid majority of the country at about approx. 65% of the population why do you want to encourage the newspaper of record to rally the majority people against minority opponents?
     
    How much time do you spend scouring non-white gentile majority forums, telling them to cool down the open antiwhite rhetoric, for the sake of white gentile minorities?

    America was 90% white, now it’s down to 65% with great assistance from an overtly hostile antiwhite media, and people who demand that All & Only white populations have no right to self preservation.

    How committed are you to an anti-majority stance globally? In what non white majority countries are we seeing priority for “diversity”, for "antiracism”, for mass immigration from peoples different than the majority population?

    Do you not understand the policy reasons for suppressing majority unity expressed in racial animus against others? Or more likely do you just not care?
     
    Since you’re so concerned about minorities, shouldn’t you be worried about whites?

    They are less than 10% of the worlds population and falling fast. They are the only ones who are facing mass immigration and demographic displacement in every country they populate. They are facing an openly antiwhite mainstream media and global narrative, which is extremely dangerous considering their demographic danger.

    Why do you not care about these minorities?

    As usual, Antiracist is code for Antiwhite.
    , @ben tillman

    Since white gentiles are the solid majority of the country at about approx. 65% of the population why do you want to encourage the newspaper of record to rally the majority people against minority opponents?
     
    Because, thanks to people like you who say that Whites may not exercise any political power, Whites exercise no political power. We are functionally a 0% minority.

    The only people who can be anti-gentiles are minorities. Why do you want to fire up the majority against those minorities? Do you not understand the policy reasons for suppressing majority unity expressed in racial animus against others? Or more likely do you just not care?
     
    Oh, I understand the reasons, and I care.

    The "policy reasons for suppressing majority unity expressed in racial animus against others" -- i.e., the enslavement and/or genocide of the White race -- are profoundly evil.

    More generally, a policy of hamstringing the majority is profoundly evil no matter who the majority is. The solution to the problem of a minority is separation and autonomy. You have to be a misanthrope to do things your way.
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  9. Yes, yes and yes!

    Keep fighting the good fight Steve.

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  10. You write “In other words, in the classic example of Jewish guilt, [Philip Roth's] Portnoy’s Complaint, Jewish guilt is the opposite of white guilt: Portnoy’s feelings of Jewish guilt stem not from his ancestors being too ethnocentric (as in “white guilt”) but from himself not being ethnocentric enough to please his ancestors. His parents make him feel guilty because he’s individualistically ignoring his racial duty to settle down and propagate the Jewish race.”

    You are guessing about this from the outside. As an insider, having felt Portnoy’s guilt in my teens, early twenties and a relict smidge of it to the present day, I assert that the guilt is not imposed by one’s parents (whose thoughts and intentions are unexpressed and unknown), but arises from one not feeling justified to go on living in the world that knows who you are, that you are one of them, those who killed Christ or for some other primal ineradicable reason. The genesis of the guilt is internal in the context of the large world, not imposed by parents, and has NOTHING TO DO with the propagation of the race, an imperative that doesn’t exist for adolescents. Thanks for the chance of explaining this to you.

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    What's taqiyya in hebrew??
    , @SFG
    I guess this is the advantage of *not* being raised Jewish? I never felt that way at all, and it was the half of my ancestry I would actually admit to, being raised in NYC and all. I mean, I don't know, I read about the Holocaust and all ad nauseam, but that was something that happened in Germany decades ago.

    I'm not claiming I'm bursting with self-esteem, but it never had to do with that.
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  11. @SFG
    Can you find it in other sources of the era? National Review before the 60s or so, for example? The NYT isn't exactly the first place I'd look.

    The NYT is precisely the right place to look for conversations on Jewish attitudes to Gentiles and vice versa. It claims it’s both the “newspaper of record” of the full spectrum of American public life and the local newspaper for a city with the largest Jewish population outside Israel.

    Let’s just say, hypothetically of course, that the NYT discussed Jewish/Gentile relations quite a bit over the last 60yrs. I know we’re now in the realm of wild hypotheticals and alternate historical timelines but let’s just imagine a world in which the NYT sees the passing cavalcade of human events through a Jewish-American lens. Wouldn’t it seem natural for them to mention the yin to anti-Semitism’s yang – the salt to its pepper – every decade or so? Give me break.

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    • Replies: @SFG
    Yes, but they're going to be worried about how they appear in front of the goyim, so they're not going to bring it up. I get his point is that they don't mention it, but my point is you wouldn't expect them to, so let's see if anyone else did--I'm sure they did. American Mercury perhaps?
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  12. I’m not an expert but I don’t think a self hating jew is a jew who hates jews so much as a jew who hates himself because he is jewish and by implication, isn’t too fond of jewishness and would prefer to be (at least accepted by) gentile(s).

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    • Replies: @anon
    I've seen many times in comment sections where someone is accused of being a self-hating Jew for not being ethno-centric enough (but it's possible there's two kinds - dunno).
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  13. Interesting that Weidman used the name ‘Daniel Schoor’ for his ‘bad’ character. The real Daniel Schorr’ was, in 1958, CBS news Moscow reporter and just beginning his long career undermining American foreign policy, smearing presidential candidates and even fellow CBS reporter Lesley Stahl and making the ‘enemies list of President’s Kennedy, Johnson and, most famously, Richard Nixon.

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    I watched, live, as Schorr smeared Barry Goldwater in 1964 by "reporting" that he had gone to Germany to consult with "right wing German leaders".
    People are so stupid that this is actually thought to have hurt Goldwater.
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  14. I just don’t think Gentiles have much tribal instinct at baseline, at least when compared to Jews. “Self-hating” doesn’t really resonate with us because we’re all fairly distrustful of each other, and perfectly willing to slit each other’s throats if necessary. Even today you have major “right-wing” figures like Nigel Farage bleating on about how he’s really anti-immigrant categorically and actually prefers Pakis to Poles. Now I’m sure he doesn’t really believe that in his heart but that he would even say it is a testamet to how little racial feeling exists amongst “Europeans,” many of whom find even that categorization to be ridiculous.

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    • Replies: @rod1963
    Whites were tribal for a very long time, except the tribal instinct was redirected into loyalty to the state, organized sports, etc. Anything but loyalty to family, clan and tribe.

    Other elements helped as well:

    Think how the government created white flight in the name of forced busing and integration. It destroyed a lot of white ethnic enclaves in smaller cities and towns.

    You ever notice how all the different non-white ethnics have their own special day in school praising their culture and history and whites have... nothing. Whites are deliberately kept from having pride in their peoples and traditions.

    Organized sports plays a very large role in this - because it takes the emotional and bonding energy of whites away from each other and transfers it to a bunch of thuggish black athletes who despise their white fans. And ever notice how it's always pushed by very wealthy whites, most of whom identify as liberals and globalists.

    One of the most important things whites could do is IMO is to stop watching college or professional sports. It's poison.

    As for Farage, he must watch what he says because there are no free speech laws in England, he literally has to praise Muzzies lest he finds himself in front of a judge.
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  15. But isn’t referring to ‘anti-Gentilism’ anti-Gentile?

    Gentiles make up 99 point whatever percent of the dominant species on the only inhabited planet we know of.

    Yet ‘anti-Gentilism’ implies what really matters is what the tiny rest could be thinking.

    Maybe because I’m the only person here who looks on the bright side of things (i.e. overwhelmingly Gentile things), that makes me the only pro-Gentile person here.

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    Yet ‘anti-Gentilism’ implies what really matters is what the tiny rest could be thinking.
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    What that tiny rest thinks matters. A lot.
    There seem to be about 16 millions jews in the world at the moment but they matter a whole lot more than the 16 million Guatemalans or the 15 million Senegalese in the world, don't you agree ?
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  16. “Since white gentiles are the solid majority of the country at about approx. 65% of the population why do you want to encourage the newspaper of record to rally the majority people against minority opponents?:

    Given that white gentiles were about 85% of the population of the U.S. as recently as fifty years ago, they can hardly be called a “solid majority”. They are a dwindling majority that is on it’s way to becoming a minority.

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  17. @Anonymous
    Since white gentiles are the solid majority of the country at about approx. 65% of the population why do you want to encourage the newspaper of record to rally the majority people against minority opponents? (White gentiles who are leftists are not anti-gentiles, they are self-hating.)

    The only people who can be anti-gentiles are minorities. Why do you want to fire up the majority against those minorities? Do you not understand the policy reasons for suppressing majority unity expressed in racial animus against others? Or more likely do you just not care?

    The only people who can be anti-gentiles are minorities. Why do you want to fire up the majority against those minorities? Do you not understand the policy reasons for suppressing majority unity expressed in racial animus against others?

    Isn’t that it in a nutshell? We cannot be allowed to feel unity or confidence because it endangers minorities and these minorities reserve the right to actively handicap us. I really don’t think that was the deal we all agreed to back when Jews were given full civil rights. The Duke of Wellington was right about this. It’s a bit late to change it now though. The best the rest of us can do is come to understand institutions like the NYT are playing by the rules you describe and conduct ourselves accordingly.

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  18. When someone adduced An Empire of Their Own: How the Jews Invented Hollywood (1989)?

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  19. @Cagey Beast
    The NYT is precisely the right place to look for conversations on Jewish attitudes to Gentiles and vice versa. It claims it's both the "newspaper of record" of the full spectrum of American public life and the local newspaper for a city with the largest Jewish population outside Israel.

    Let's just say, hypothetically of course, that the NYT discussed Jewish/Gentile relations quite a bit over the last 60yrs. I know we're now in the realm of wild hypotheticals and alternate historical timelines but let's just imagine a world in which the NYT sees the passing cavalcade of human events through a Jewish-American lens. Wouldn't it seem natural for them to mention the yin to anti-Semitism's yang - the salt to its pepper - every decade or so? Give me break.

    Yes, but they’re going to be worried about how they appear in front of the goyim, so they’re not going to bring it up. I get his point is that they don’t mention it, but my point is you wouldn’t expect them to, so let’s see if anyone else did–I’m sure they did. American Mercury perhaps?

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    Well if The New York Times doesn't mention it then it's not the kind of newspaper it claims to be. When caught out in a half century of mendacity, the NYT's fans say "well of course it's rigged, what do you expect?". Then in a day or so we can go back to claiming the only people who think the NYT isn't the gold standard of veritas are ignorant haters or people with psychiatric disorders. Spring turns to summer and the cycle of life continues.
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  20. @Reg Cæsar
    I find the term "gentile" to be insulting. Call me goy.

    We need to take the term back! It could be our “n-word”.

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    Already in process. I take it you've never looked at therightstuff or mpcdot.com?
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    I definitely feel the sentiment, but part of the trouble is that the demographic I think you are concerned about when raising this is non-Jewish white people, right Steve? It's not Gentiles specifically, and it's probably not whites although when we talk about anti-White activity that's 90% the way there. Jews are what, 2% of white people or something like that in the USA? Maybe 3-4% given that the 2% figure from memory applies to all of the USA rather than just the white people.

    Anyway, if some guy coincidentally named Cohen writes an article about the unbearable whiteness of X, what do we call it? Is it anti-Gentilism or Anti-Whitism? My guess is that he doesn't write equivalently hatey articles about the stifling brownness of the kitchen hands of every eatery in the USA, or the horrible blackness of the NBA etc. So to my mind, calling his article anti-White captures the target of his animus pretty well. Is he going to complain "How can I be anti-white, I'm white myself, aren't I?"? Well, he could do this but he's just playing semantics. The term is 96%+ of the way there.

    OTOH, anti-Gentilism really doesn't capture this because he doesn't care if so-called redneck whites are doing poorly because they have to compete in a rigged game with non-white Gentiles, or if all the Ivy League schools have quotas such that 10% of the student body is now white and the other 90% are various non-whites... so long as the Jews are taken care of.

    Anti-white Gentilism is of course, more accurate but I think for most purposes anti-white suffices.

    “part of the trouble is that the demographic I think you are concerned about when raising this is non-Jewish white people, right Steve?”

    Steve’s written a fair bit about BDS (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions) in relation to Israel and how the movement is growing fastest on campuses where white students are losing influence as demographics change.

    In the UK the new black and pro-Palestinian president of the National Union of Students (traditionally a gateway to a career in politics and/or media) is getting the same treatment (and more) from the liberal media and well-organised pressure groups as the white and pro-Palestinian leader of the Labour Party is getting.

    http://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/apr/22/malia-bouattia-election-nus-president-deeply-divisive-jewish-student-groups

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    Interesting article. I'm glad to see all of the UK's good universities leaving the NUS after the election of an anti-semite leader.

    Both you and the Guardian refer to her as "black" and she previously headed a "black students" group. She appears to be a standard-issue Algerian muslim however. Is it normal in the UK to call North Africans "black" or does she have some recent Sub-Saharan ancestry?

    where white students are losing influence as demographics change
     
    It is not so much the decline of white students as the rise of Muslim students. Mexicans and Chinese don't care about BDS, but I'm sure white Muslims do.
    , @ogunsiron
    I've heard from people like Gilad Atzmon that the anti-Zionist left has to a great degree been conned into viewing the Israel question in the light of anti-colonialism. He says that the anti-zionists who get to air their views are the ones who fight Israel as a european colonial state and not those who fight Israel as a jewish project, separate from european colonialism.

    What does someone like Bouattia think of Israel, really ? Is she really anti-semitic or is she simply anti-european and she hates Israel *because she thinks it's a bunch of Poles and Russians who stole land from brownz* ?
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  22. @SFG
    Yes, but they're going to be worried about how they appear in front of the goyim, so they're not going to bring it up. I get his point is that they don't mention it, but my point is you wouldn't expect them to, so let's see if anyone else did--I'm sure they did. American Mercury perhaps?

    Well if The New York Times doesn’t mention it then it’s not the kind of newspaper it claims to be. When caught out in a half century of mendacity, the NYT’s fans say “well of course it’s rigged, what do you expect?”. Then in a day or so we can go back to claiming the only people who think the NYT isn’t the gold standard of veritas are ignorant haters or people with psychiatric disorders. Spring turns to summer and the cycle of life continues.

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    Fans?

    One of the things the Millennials (of whom I am not one, being born in the late seventies) get right is that it's an article of faith that you never trust one source. The whole idea of a paper of record is a little outdated. If the NYT doesn't talk about anti-gentilism, well, it's a Jewish-American paper, and you can't expect them to be unaffected by their biases. There were fewer sources back in the era Steve's talking about, but you can look at the Post, you can look at right-wing journals of opinion before the neocon takeover, and so on. This isn't ancient history where you're stuck with three sources all of whom were favored by some writer three hundred years later to save from the trashpile.

    I don't trust Steve on everything, but he says enough that I find perceptive to find him worth reading, and I think he says the truth, at least as he sees it, anyway. I don't trust anyone on everything. You read the Nation, the Atlantic, the NYT, National Review, and Unz and Takimag, and you make up your mind.
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  23. @unit472
    Interesting that Weidman used the name 'Daniel Schoor' for his 'bad' character. The real Daniel Schorr' was, in 1958, CBS news Moscow reporter and just beginning his long career undermining American foreign policy, smearing presidential candidates and even fellow CBS reporter Lesley Stahl and making the 'enemies list of President's Kennedy, Johnson and, most famously, Richard Nixon.

    I watched, live, as Schorr smeared Barry Goldwater in 1964 by “reporting” that he had gone to Germany to consult with “right wing German leaders”.
    People are so stupid that this is actually thought to have hurt Goldwater.

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  24. @anonymouse
    You write "In other words, in the classic example of Jewish guilt, [Philip Roth's] Portnoy’s Complaint, Jewish guilt is the opposite of white guilt: Portnoy’s feelings of Jewish guilt stem not from his ancestors being too ethnocentric (as in “white guilt”) but from himself not being ethnocentric enough to please his ancestors. His parents make him feel guilty because he’s individualistically ignoring his racial duty to settle down and propagate the Jewish race."

    You are guessing about this from the outside. As an insider, having felt Portnoy's guilt in my teens, early twenties and a relict smidge of it to the present day, I assert that the guilt is not imposed by one's parents (whose thoughts and intentions are unexpressed and unknown), but arises from one not feeling justified to go on living in the world that knows who you are, that you are one of them, those who killed Christ or for some other primal ineradicable reason. The genesis of the guilt is internal in the context of the large world, not imposed by parents, and has NOTHING TO DO with the propagation of the race, an imperative that doesn't exist for adolescents. Thanks for the chance of explaining this to you.

    What’s taqiyya in hebrew??

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  26. What a gentlemanly sanitary erudite discussion about a subject boiling with such hate.

    The primary words are fudged. Anti-Semite is a fudge word and Gentilism is a fudge word. Why not use the real words – Jew and Gentile?

    Dare the truth be discussed.

    p.s. However the term “self-hating Jew” is spot on – the words are 100% accurate.

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    "Why not use the real words – Jew and Gentile?"

    The real phenomena are Indo-European and Semite.

    The 1983 edition of the Penguin Atlas of World History refers to Mesopotamia at a certain point in history/pre-history becoming Semitised. (My guess is that that expression disappeared from the PAWH around 1992).
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  27. RE: Anti-Gentilism,

    From WIKIPEDIA’s description of Irwin Shaw’s The Young Lions:

    Christian Diestl is at first a sympathetic German drawn to Nazism by despair for his future but willing to sacrifice Jews if necessary; Noah Ackerman is an American Jew facing discrimination of the American kind; and Michael Whitacre is an American WASP who struggles with his lack of meaning arising from his lack of struggles.

    The three have very different wars: Diestl becomes less sympathetic as he willingly sacrifices more and more merely to survive; Ackerman finally overcomes the discrimination of his fellows in the army only to be nearly undone by the horror of the camps; Whitacre, still without meaning in his life, survives them both.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Young_Lions

    Interesting how potent anti-WASP hatred can be……

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  28. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Since white gentiles are the solid majority of the country at about approx. 65% of the population…”

    And just a short time ago, maybe the 1960s, it was closer to 90%.

    I expect you’ll still be talking about the solid white gentile majority when it’s 50.01%. What are you going to do after that?

    Can’t you see that you are on a course to make extreme enemies, because they will be in the right? A little less paranoia and more of an even keel would help.

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  29. @Erik L
    I'm not an expert but I don't think a self hating jew is a jew who hates jews so much as a jew who hates himself because he is jewish and by implication, isn't too fond of jewishness and would prefer to be (at least accepted by) gentile(s).

    I’ve seen many times in comment sections where someone is accused of being a self-hating Jew for not being ethno-centric enough (but it’s possible there’s two kinds – dunno).

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    It's purposely ambiguous--the implication is that if you don't identify strongly enough with Jewish interests, you must hate Jews and, therefore, yourself. Sort of the equivalent of an 'Uncle Tom'.

    I always wonder why somebody doesn't reply, "I don't hate *myself*, I hate you guys..."

    Truth be told quite a few guys like Gilad Atzmon probably have issues with their relatives; I imagine most people annoyed at their ethnic group just keep their mouths shut and drift away from the tribe.
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  30. @Peter Meyer
    I just don't think Gentiles have much tribal instinct at baseline, at least when compared to Jews. "Self-hating" doesn't really resonate with us because we're all fairly distrustful of each other, and perfectly willing to slit each other's throats if necessary. Even today you have major "right-wing" figures like Nigel Farage bleating on about how he's really anti-immigrant categorically and actually prefers Pakis to Poles. Now I'm sure he doesn't really believe that in his heart but that he would even say it is a testamet to how little racial feeling exists amongst "Europeans," many of whom find even that categorization to be ridiculous.

    Whites were tribal for a very long time, except the tribal instinct was redirected into loyalty to the state, organized sports, etc. Anything but loyalty to family, clan and tribe.

    Other elements helped as well:

    Think how the government created white flight in the name of forced busing and integration. It destroyed a lot of white ethnic enclaves in smaller cities and towns.

    You ever notice how all the different non-white ethnics have their own special day in school praising their culture and history and whites have… nothing. Whites are deliberately kept from having pride in their peoples and traditions.

    Organized sports plays a very large role in this – because it takes the emotional and bonding energy of whites away from each other and transfers it to a bunch of thuggish black athletes who despise their white fans. And ever notice how it’s always pushed by very wealthy whites, most of whom identify as liberals and globalists.

    One of the most important things whites could do is IMO is to stop watching college or professional sports. It’s poison.

    As for Farage, he must watch what he says because there are no free speech laws in England, he literally has to praise Muzzies lest he finds himself in front of a judge.

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  31. @Judah Benjamin Hur
    The self-hating Jew is a real phenomenon. It's not a fair description in many cases (I have no idea about Jerome Weidman), but I know it when I see it. The self-hating white is becoming so commonplace that even Bill Maher is ridiculing them.

    It's interesting that you bring up William Randolph Hearst. In Deadwood, his father George Hearst was treated infinitely worse. I'm not sure who is to blame, the show creator David Milch (who happens to be Jewish in case anyone is keeping score), or the season 3 writers. It sure was brutal.

    I was in Shanghai in a cab a few years after Deadwood aired. By then, most cabs had tv screens on the back of the front seats. I was watching an ad and noticed it was supplied by the Hearst Corporation. I thought how amazing it was that 160+ years after George Hearst started building his dynasty, his empire lives on across the planet. The chairman of the Hearst Corporation is William Randolph Hearst III.

    The self-hating white is becoming so commonplace that even Bill Maher is ridiculing them.

    Yes, two days ago Maher closed the show with an anti-anti-racist tirade about self-hating white liberals. As part of it he also criticized the “doofus dad” anti-white male trope used endlessly in TV and advertising.

    He really gets away with a lot:

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    I know. I was pleasantly surprised by his mentioning of the white doofus dad stereotype on TV. About a month ago, King of the Hill came up in the comments here and someone mentioned how you couldn't have characters like John Redcorn and Kahn if it had been made in 2016. The real question is, could you have a character like Hank Hill?
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  32. I don’t see white guilt and jewish guilt as opposed.

    White guilt can be a sense of guilt over the real or imagined crimes against minorities of one’s ancestors.

    More commonly I think it is a sense that racial differences exist and being born white was a stroke of luck without doing anything in particular to merit one’s superiority. That’s why white guilt is only really found in the top quarter or so of the socioeconomic spectrum.

    Jewish guilt deals with a feeling of displeasing or failing one’s parents or grandparents. That could mean failing to spread their genes after all the effort they put into raising you. It could just as much mean failing at school or work, or some other way of letting your family down.

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    Lot, I don't really understand what you're saying. Do Jewish people ever feel guilty about what they're ancestors have done. Do you think white people (Jewish people included) would feel guilty about what their ancestors did if we didn't have to hear about how awful it was all the time? I doubt it, unless we knew that our ancestors personally hurt other people.
    , @ben tillman

    White guilt can be a sense of guilt over the real or imagined crimes against minorities of one’s ancestors.
     
    Indians and Blacks weren't "minorities" in general. In some times and places, yes; in others, no.
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  33. @Lot

    The self-hating white is becoming so commonplace that even Bill Maher is ridiculing them.
     
    Yes, two days ago Maher closed the show with an anti-anti-racist tirade about self-hating white liberals. As part of it he also criticized the "doofus dad" anti-white male trope used endlessly in TV and advertising.

    He really gets away with a lot:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLD2xzAX8Aw

    I know. I was pleasantly surprised by his mentioning of the white doofus dad stereotype on TV. About a month ago, King of the Hill came up in the comments here and someone mentioned how you couldn’t have characters like John Redcorn and Kahn if it had been made in 2016. The real question is, could you have a character like Hank Hill?

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  34. “How can I be anti-white, I’m white myself, aren’t I?”?

    Even if we ignore the ethnic angle: “Uncle Tom was black.” I suspect it will sting.

    find the term “gentile” to be insulting. Call me goy.

    Anonym just above you is correct about anti-white being more appropriate than anti-gentile (though something that captured how essential being capable of competing with Jews is to their target selection would be better than either), but that aside, I offer “human” as the most proper word.

    Anonymous says:
    April 24, 2016 at 1:21 pm GMT • 100 Words

    What now?

    You are guessing about this from the outside.

    We can make a lot of accurate generalizations from the outside. Especially when a peculiar lack of introspection obtains at the group level.

    But isn’t referring to ‘anti-Gentilism’ anti-Gentile?

    Gentiles make up 99 point whatever percent of the dominant species on the only inhabited planet we know of.

    Yet ‘anti-Gentilism’ implies what really matters is what the tiny rest could be thinking.

    Maybe because I’m the only person here who looks on the bright side of things (i.e. overwhelmingly Gentile things), that makes me the only pro-Gentile person here.

    Corollary would seem to be that what happens to Jews doesn’t matter, either.

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  35. “Group level introspection” might have worked better.

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  36. More commonly I think it is a sense that racial differences exist and being born white was a stroke of luck without doing anything in particular to merit one’s superiority. That’s why white guilt is only really found in the top quarter or so of the socioeconomic spectrum.

    I get your point, but it’s not luck. Blacks do not randomly have white children, and vice versa.

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  37. @Anonymous Nephew
    "part of the trouble is that the demographic I think you are concerned about when raising this is non-Jewish white people, right Steve?"

    Steve's written a fair bit about BDS (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions) in relation to Israel and how the movement is growing fastest on campuses where white students are losing influence as demographics change.

    In the UK the new black and pro-Palestinian president of the National Union of Students (traditionally a gateway to a career in politics and/or media) is getting the same treatment (and more) from the liberal media and well-organised pressure groups as the white and pro-Palestinian leader of the Labour Party is getting.

    http://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/apr/22/malia-bouattia-election-nus-president-deeply-divisive-jewish-student-groups

    Interesting article. I’m glad to see all of the UK’s good universities leaving the NUS after the election of an anti-semite leader.

    Both you and the Guardian refer to her as “black” and she previously headed a “black students” group. She appears to be a standard-issue Algerian muslim however. Is it normal in the UK to call North Africans “black” or does she have some recent Sub-Saharan ancestry?

    where white students are losing influence as demographics change

    It is not so much the decline of white students as the rise of Muslim students. Mexicans and Chinese don’t care about BDS, but I’m sure white Muslims do.

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    It is not so much the decline of white students as the rise of Muslim students. Mexicans and Chinese don’t care about BDS, but I’m sure white Muslims do.
     
    My experience is that East Asians aren't *generally* a problem for SJW causes, but Hindus often are. Hindus are not exactly pro-Muslim per se, but as an out-group and as non-Christians the discourse of the SJW/SWPL whites tends to resonate with them. The need of the SWPL crowd to build a fringe coalition of useful idiots to support their ideas makes them receptive to picking up trash, which they spread to the other groups. With respect to anti-Zionism/anti-Semitism, this is widespread among Muslims AND blacks, and politically active Hispanics from lower class (darker) backgrounds (i.e., the ones that tend to assimilate to African-American norms) can certainly be virulently anti-Zionist *and* anti-Semitic.

    Also, the reflexive anti-American proclivity of SJW-SWPLs, who are by no means anti-Semitic, nevertheless makes them receptive to denunciations of Israel as a "satellite state" of the U.S..
    , @ogunsiron
    I think it's a far left UK thing to call all nonwhites "black". It's not even a British thing in general but a part of the anti-racist culture over there.
    , @Jefferson
    "Both you and the Guardian refer to her as “black” and she previously headed a “black students” group. She appears to be a standard-issue Algerian muslim however. Is it normal in the UK to call North Africans “black” or does she have some recent Sub-Saharan ancestry?

    That Algerian woman has obvious Sub Saharan African ancestry, especially when you look at her hair texture and facial features. She is a Mulata, hence why her skin is not as dark as that of people from countries like Senegal and Nigeria.

    Here are pictures of her.
    http://www.nus.org.uk/en/news/nus-black-students-officer-malia-bouattia-wins-eightwomen-award/

    She can easily pass for a Cape Verdean or a Louisiana Creole Of Color.

    Does she look like a White woman to you?

    If she does look White to you, I am not surprised because you are the same guy who thinks most Mexicans in Boyle Heights Los Angeles look White.
    , @cwhatfuture

    It is not so much the decline of white students as the rise of Muslim students. Mexicans and Chinese don’t care about BDS, but I’m sure white Muslims do.

     

    Exactly. BDS is nothing but Sharia law under a cover of "human rights". It is nothing but importing middle eastern hatreds wholesale into the US. My response to any BDS muslim is to say if you don't like Israel, don't deal with it. Your business. But don't tell me what to do. Don't tell America what to do.
    , @Penny Red
    For what it is worth in some pictures she has the same frizzy hair as fashionista Rachael Doležal.
    , @Mishima Zaibatsu
    "Black" is basically a coalition 0f colour against the "pale and stale".

    The NUS Black Students’ campaign represents the largest constituency of Black students in Europe and students of African, Asian, Arab and Caribbean descent, at a local and national level on all issues affecting Black students.

    The campaign focuses on equality in education, black representation, anti-racism and anti-facism (sic) and international peace and justice.
     
    I don't think I've really seen Chinese or other North East Asians in any of these proceedings, it's largely Arabs, blacks and Pakistanis wanting to "deconstruct" all things white and shouting the usual lines that white people have always been oppressors and never the oppressed.

    Interesting since Arabs colonised half of Europe, enslaved over a million Europeans, enslaved blacks for far longer and more cruelly than white people did and it's still going on today. But there's no Hollywood to incite hatred towards any groups other than white people.
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  38. @Big Bill
    So 1958 WASPish. The Times couldn't even do a good transliteration of Yiddish. The term "shutzkim" is more accurately rendered as shgotzim (shkotzim, etc.). It is the plural of shegetz (sheketz, shaigetz, shaygetz) which means "abomination" (or more colloquially, a young non-Jewish male). The corresponding female term is "shiksa", with which we are more familiar.

    Shkutzim would have been close enough but was perhaps a bit of a tongue twister for an English speaker. The writer just misplaced the k. We don’t have a “shkoo” sound in English but Shutz,Kim is doable. Wasn’t there a Kim Shutz in my high school? The English have mutilated more foreign words than some languages have in total. Except maybe for Japanese I can’t think of any language that is so full of mutilated foreign words. We are willing to mutilate words from any language – native American, Spanish, French, Latin, etc.

    This reminds me of my elderly WASP sociology professor in the 1970s who one day started teaching us about SHAD CHENS. The Shad Chen does this, the Shad Chen does that. After a while, I realized he was not referring to either a fish or the name of a Chinese person but was trying to say the Yiddish word for matchmaker or marriage broker, which is pronounced something like SHODkhrin. That was the moment I realized that he had no idea what he was really saying in any language and the stuff he had been telling us about Amish, Tahitians, etc. was all probably just as wrong.

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  39. @Anonym
    I definitely feel the sentiment, but part of the trouble is that the demographic I think you are concerned about when raising this is non-Jewish white people, right Steve? It's not Gentiles specifically, and it's probably not whites although when we talk about anti-White activity that's 90% the way there. Jews are what, 2% of white people or something like that in the USA? Maybe 3-4% given that the 2% figure from memory applies to all of the USA rather than just the white people.

    Anyway, if some guy coincidentally named Cohen writes an article about the unbearable whiteness of X, what do we call it? Is it anti-Gentilism or Anti-Whitism? My guess is that he doesn't write equivalently hatey articles about the stifling brownness of the kitchen hands of every eatery in the USA, or the horrible blackness of the NBA etc. So to my mind, calling his article anti-White captures the target of his animus pretty well. Is he going to complain "How can I be anti-white, I'm white myself, aren't I?"? Well, he could do this but he's just playing semantics. The term is 96%+ of the way there.

    OTOH, anti-Gentilism really doesn't capture this because he doesn't care if so-called redneck whites are doing poorly because they have to compete in a rigged game with non-white Gentiles, or if all the Ivy League schools have quotas such that 10% of the student body is now white and the other 90% are various non-whites... so long as the Jews are taken care of.

    Anti-white Gentilism is of course, more accurate but I think for most purposes anti-white suffices.

    Anti-white Gentilism is of course, more accurate but I think for most purposes anti-white suffices.

    I agree with that. Steve writes a lot about the hypocrisy of various Jews who support ethno-nationalism for Israel but not for whites in the USA or Europe.

    I agree with him that they are wrong and hypocrites. However, it is a strange focus because we are not really talking about too large group, and the vast majority of Jews are either consistently anti-white or consistently pro-white.

    Trump v Kasich/Rubio was a pretty good test of whether you are OK with the demographic destruction of white America or not, and Jew-heavy New York gave Trump some of his best numbers, as did Florida. (A vote for Cruz is hard to categorize. He really is better than most Republicans, but he’s also oily about the issue and seems to favor a very large increase in “guest workers” and H1B.)

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    Jew-heavy New York gave Trump some of his best numbers

    The vast majority of Jews in New York are registered Democrats and thus don't vote in the Republican primary. They voted for open-borders Hillary. It's the upstate non-Jewish Republicans that voted for Trump primarily.
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    He probably got most of those votes from Italian and Irish-Americans, though.

    You're right that there are Jews who are anti-Israel and anti-white (most far-lefties) and pro-Israel and not really anti-white at least (Orthodox, some of the neocons like Frum), but most are trying to be pro-Israel while trying to hold onto their liberal beliefs.

    But, by and large, the Jewish portion of the conservative intelligentsia (which is really all we can see) has gone against Trump. You haven't, LOTB hasn't, Mike Savage hasn't as far as I know. But the Commentary and National Review crowd are going into hysterics trying to stop the guy, and it just confirms the WN view that Jews are trying to destroy the White race's champion. Hell, even Ben Shapiro, who has some really funny videos on Youtube demolishing the white privilege concept, hates the guy. Milo's a halfie.

    Which I don't exactly share--I think the Reform crowd mostly believes in their liberal ideas, outmarries like crazy, and thinks Trump is going to send them to concentration camps in North Dakota. (Which I think is about as likely as Trump taking his name off those buildings and becoming a monk.) But that is what I'm seeing, and I'm thinking about just swearing off following politics and starting to lift weights before I get too old.

    Which is probably a good idea anyway, to be honest.

    , @Anonym
    I agree with him that they are wrong and hypocrites. However, it is a strange focus because we are not really talking about too large group, and the vast majority of Jews are either consistently anti-white or consistently pro-white.

    Personally I like the focus on "anti-white" as I believe it's counterproductive to really make the movement an anti-Jewish one, although I do like when pro-Israel/anti-White hypocrisy is brought into focus, because it needs to be. And anti-white gentilism is a little on the clunky side.
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  40. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    I don't see white guilt and jewish guilt as opposed.

    White guilt can be a sense of guilt over the real or imagined crimes against minorities of one's ancestors.

    More commonly I think it is a sense that racial differences exist and being born white was a stroke of luck without doing anything in particular to merit one's superiority. That's why white guilt is only really found in the top quarter or so of the socioeconomic spectrum.

    Jewish guilt deals with a feeling of displeasing or failing one's parents or grandparents. That could mean failing to spread their genes after all the effort they put into raising you. It could just as much mean failing at school or work, or some other way of letting your family down.

    Lot, I don’t really understand what you’re saying. Do Jewish people ever feel guilty about what they’re ancestors have done. Do you think white people (Jewish people included) would feel guilty about what their ancestors did if we didn’t have to hear about how awful it was all the time? I doubt it, unless we knew that our ancestors personally hurt other people.

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    Do you think white people (Jewish people included) would feel guilty about what their ancestors did if we didn’t have to hear about how awful it was all the time?
     
    Guilt over the deeds of one's ancestors is a pretty rare and unnatural emotion. Certainly left-wing schools do their best to inculcate white guilt in children by ALWAYS portraying blacks as victims and virtuous and whites as either evil, or good primarily because they side with blacks over evil whites (like Lincoln).
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  41. @Reg Cæsar
    I find the term "gentile" to be insulting. Call me goy.

    I also think the word Gentile is kind of insulting. I usually feel uncomfortable using it.

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  42. @Anonymous
    Since white gentiles are the solid majority of the country at about approx. 65% of the population why do you want to encourage the newspaper of record to rally the majority people against minority opponents? (White gentiles who are leftists are not anti-gentiles, they are self-hating.)

    The only people who can be anti-gentiles are minorities. Why do you want to fire up the majority against those minorities? Do you not understand the policy reasons for suppressing majority unity expressed in racial animus against others? Or more likely do you just not care?

    It’s better to reduce the amount of hatred in society regardless of source, don’t you agree?

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    The majority's hate is especially vicious and making sure not to incite it is higher priority.
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  43. I want to point out the reality of a lot of Jewish culture and ritual is about hating Gentiles in some way.

    Take Passover. Pesach celebrates when, in Jewish myth, God ‘passed over’ the houses of the Jews on the way to murder the first born sons of all the non Jews in Egypt.

    Jews celebrate this. If you’ve celebrated Passover, you’ll know Jews explicitly celebrate all the terrible things God did to the Egyptians. They chant the names of the ten plagues joyously. Jews celebrate the death of non-Jews. It’s not a turn-the-other-cheek kind of religion.

    Think about the mindset you’d have doing these rituals year after year. Jews despise Gentiles and don’t mind ripping them off and cheating them.

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    Think about the mindset you’d have doing these rituals year after year. Jews despise Gentiles and don’t mind ripping them off and cheating them.

    Religions are a double-edged sword. They have the power to unify and motivate people. At the same time, they have a certain inflexibility to them that leads to the same mistakes being repeated ad infinitum.

    The chutzpah of Jews to try something unimaginably ballsy is a strength and also a weakness. Some ideas are dumb, in the long-run counterproductive, and shouldn't be tried. PC is one of them. Marxism probably another. My guess is that this tendency to overreach has probably been at the root of a lot of pogroms throughout the centuries. It is dangerous to keep pushing people who by nature, tend to bottle their anger.

    The war-making focus of Muslims is both a strength for them and a weakness. In the era of very slow progress of war technology, it was a strength for them. In an era where technology plays such a large part, the focus on war as opposed to economy and science is a weakness. Also a weakness is the urge to attack and strike terror rather than bide their time and wait until they have demographic superiority.

    Christians have their weaknesses too. The urge to proselytize to non-whites is a huge weakness. There are others of course.

    , @Jack D
    You have this precisely backward. At the Passover Seder the recitation of the plagues is accompanied by the spilling of drops of wine from each participant's cup. In Judaism, a full cup is the symbol of joy ("my cup runneth over") so by diminishing the wine in our cups, we symbolize that our joy in liberation was diminished by the suffering of the Egyptians.

    On the other hand, I don't recall that many Americans were sad when they heard that we had nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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  44. @Pericles
    It's better to reduce the amount of hatred in society regardless of source, don't you agree?

    The majority’s hate is especially vicious and making sure not to incite it is higher priority.

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    The majority's hate is especially brutal? It is? How so? Go spend a few fun-filled hours on World Star Hip. It's like faces of death. The worst brutality I see in this country is done by the group that makes up about 3% of the population. Black males between 15 and 30. Here's a recent sample out of Baltimore public schools.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usrBSOiH2TM

    And I could post a LOT of videos like this white white victims.

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  45. @Cagey Beast
    Well if The New York Times doesn't mention it then it's not the kind of newspaper it claims to be. When caught out in a half century of mendacity, the NYT's fans say "well of course it's rigged, what do you expect?". Then in a day or so we can go back to claiming the only people who think the NYT isn't the gold standard of veritas are ignorant haters or people with psychiatric disorders. Spring turns to summer and the cycle of life continues.

    Fans?

    One of the things the Millennials (of whom I am not one, being born in the late seventies) get right is that it’s an article of faith that you never trust one source. The whole idea of a paper of record is a little outdated. If the NYT doesn’t talk about anti-gentilism, well, it’s a Jewish-American paper, and you can’t expect them to be unaffected by their biases. There were fewer sources back in the era Steve’s talking about, but you can look at the Post, you can look at right-wing journals of opinion before the neocon takeover, and so on. This isn’t ancient history where you’re stuck with three sources all of whom were favored by some writer three hundred years later to save from the trashpile.

    I don’t trust Steve on everything, but he says enough that I find perceptive to find him worth reading, and I think he says the truth, at least as he sees it, anyway. I don’t trust anyone on everything. You read the Nation, the Atlantic, the NYT, National Review, and Unz and Takimag, and you make up your mind.

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  46. Hey Steve, how’s about a posting on anti-dentites.

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  47. @Lot

    Anti-white Gentilism is of course, more accurate but I think for most purposes anti-white suffices.
     
    I agree with that. Steve writes a lot about the hypocrisy of various Jews who support ethno-nationalism for Israel but not for whites in the USA or Europe.

    I agree with him that they are wrong and hypocrites. However, it is a strange focus because we are not really talking about too large group, and the vast majority of Jews are either consistently anti-white or consistently pro-white.

    Trump v Kasich/Rubio was a pretty good test of whether you are OK with the demographic destruction of white America or not, and Jew-heavy New York gave Trump some of his best numbers, as did Florida. (A vote for Cruz is hard to categorize. He really is better than most Republicans, but he's also oily about the issue and seems to favor a very large increase in "guest workers" and H1B.)

    Jew-heavy New York gave Trump some of his best numbers

    The vast majority of Jews in New York are registered Democrats and thus don’t vote in the Republican primary. They voted for open-borders Hillary. It’s the upstate non-Jewish Republicans that voted for Trump primarily.

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    Yes and no--Trump took the city, except for Manhattan. Which, given that it went for Kasich, was probably a class thing--you can look on the NYT's website and see the nice little cutoff at 3rd avenue on the Upper East Side.

    Sailer's got a point about homesickness--I know the city's rotten and overpriced and full of bankers and lefties destroying America, but I still think of slouching through the streets between the tall buildings in my green parka on winter days, munching on a beef kebab with a crust of bread and barbecue sauce I really shouldn't be eating.

    But you can't go home again--the kebab guys are all halal now.

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  48. @Anonymous
    Lot, I don't really understand what you're saying. Do Jewish people ever feel guilty about what they're ancestors have done. Do you think white people (Jewish people included) would feel guilty about what their ancestors did if we didn't have to hear about how awful it was all the time? I doubt it, unless we knew that our ancestors personally hurt other people.

    Do you think white people (Jewish people included) would feel guilty about what their ancestors did if we didn’t have to hear about how awful it was all the time?

    Guilt over the deeds of one’s ancestors is a pretty rare and unnatural emotion. Certainly left-wing schools do their best to inculcate white guilt in children by ALWAYS portraying blacks as victims and virtuous and whites as either evil, or good primarily because they side with blacks over evil whites (like Lincoln).

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    Tell it to the Germans. You might not feel too sorry for them 60 years ago, but the current generation...?

    The usual story is that Jews were too powerless to do much of anything to anyone, I think. Which isn't *quite* true, but I do think they were more sinned against than sinning integrated over human history.

    Which doesn't make me a fan of John Podhoretz or Tim Wise. What matters is what's going on now.

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  49. @Lot

    Anti-white Gentilism is of course, more accurate but I think for most purposes anti-white suffices.
     
    I agree with that. Steve writes a lot about the hypocrisy of various Jews who support ethno-nationalism for Israel but not for whites in the USA or Europe.

    I agree with him that they are wrong and hypocrites. However, it is a strange focus because we are not really talking about too large group, and the vast majority of Jews are either consistently anti-white or consistently pro-white.

    Trump v Kasich/Rubio was a pretty good test of whether you are OK with the demographic destruction of white America or not, and Jew-heavy New York gave Trump some of his best numbers, as did Florida. (A vote for Cruz is hard to categorize. He really is better than most Republicans, but he's also oily about the issue and seems to favor a very large increase in "guest workers" and H1B.)

    He probably got most of those votes from Italian and Irish-Americans, though.

    You’re right that there are Jews who are anti-Israel and anti-white (most far-lefties) and pro-Israel and not really anti-white at least (Orthodox, some of the neocons like Frum), but most are trying to be pro-Israel while trying to hold onto their liberal beliefs.

    But, by and large, the Jewish portion of the conservative intelligentsia (which is really all we can see) has gone against Trump. You haven’t, LOTB hasn’t, Mike Savage hasn’t as far as I know. But the Commentary and National Review crowd are going into hysterics trying to stop the guy, and it just confirms the WN view that Jews are trying to destroy the White race’s champion. Hell, even Ben Shapiro, who has some really funny videos on Youtube demolishing the white privilege concept, hates the guy. Milo’s a halfie.

    Which I don’t exactly share–I think the Reform crowd mostly believes in their liberal ideas, outmarries like crazy, and thinks Trump is going to send them to concentration camps in North Dakota. (Which I think is about as likely as Trump taking his name off those buildings and becoming a monk.) But that is what I’m seeing, and I’m thinking about just swearing off following politics and starting to lift weights before I get too old.

    Which is probably a good idea anyway, to be honest.

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    Sheldon Adelson has been remarkably non-overbearing this primary season. He liked Rubio, his wife likes Cruz, and he's had nice things to say about Trump.
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  50. @SFG
    He probably got most of those votes from Italian and Irish-Americans, though.

    You're right that there are Jews who are anti-Israel and anti-white (most far-lefties) and pro-Israel and not really anti-white at least (Orthodox, some of the neocons like Frum), but most are trying to be pro-Israel while trying to hold onto their liberal beliefs.

    But, by and large, the Jewish portion of the conservative intelligentsia (which is really all we can see) has gone against Trump. You haven't, LOTB hasn't, Mike Savage hasn't as far as I know. But the Commentary and National Review crowd are going into hysterics trying to stop the guy, and it just confirms the WN view that Jews are trying to destroy the White race's champion. Hell, even Ben Shapiro, who has some really funny videos on Youtube demolishing the white privilege concept, hates the guy. Milo's a halfie.

    Which I don't exactly share--I think the Reform crowd mostly believes in their liberal ideas, outmarries like crazy, and thinks Trump is going to send them to concentration camps in North Dakota. (Which I think is about as likely as Trump taking his name off those buildings and becoming a monk.) But that is what I'm seeing, and I'm thinking about just swearing off following politics and starting to lift weights before I get too old.

    Which is probably a good idea anyway, to be honest.

    Sheldon Adelson has been remarkably non-overbearing this primary season. He liked Rubio, his wife likes Cruz, and he’s had nice things to say about Trump.

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    Sure, but he strikes me as the sort of fellow who likes to get on everyone's good side.Which is pretty savvy as a casino operator--everyone loves to change the gambling laws on you.

    Good point, though. Maybe there's hope.

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  51. @anonymouse
    You write "In other words, in the classic example of Jewish guilt, [Philip Roth's] Portnoy’s Complaint, Jewish guilt is the opposite of white guilt: Portnoy’s feelings of Jewish guilt stem not from his ancestors being too ethnocentric (as in “white guilt”) but from himself not being ethnocentric enough to please his ancestors. His parents make him feel guilty because he’s individualistically ignoring his racial duty to settle down and propagate the Jewish race."

    You are guessing about this from the outside. As an insider, having felt Portnoy's guilt in my teens, early twenties and a relict smidge of it to the present day, I assert that the guilt is not imposed by one's parents (whose thoughts and intentions are unexpressed and unknown), but arises from one not feeling justified to go on living in the world that knows who you are, that you are one of them, those who killed Christ or for some other primal ineradicable reason. The genesis of the guilt is internal in the context of the large world, not imposed by parents, and has NOTHING TO DO with the propagation of the race, an imperative that doesn't exist for adolescents. Thanks for the chance of explaining this to you.

    I guess this is the advantage of *not* being raised Jewish? I never felt that way at all, and it was the half of my ancestry I would actually admit to, being raised in NYC and all. I mean, I don’t know, I read about the Holocaust and all ad nauseam, but that was something that happened in Germany decades ago.

    I’m not claiming I’m bursting with self-esteem, but it never had to do with that.

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  52. @Steve Sailer
    Sheldon Adelson has been remarkably non-overbearing this primary season. He liked Rubio, his wife likes Cruz, and he's had nice things to say about Trump.

    Sure, but he strikes me as the sort of fellow who likes to get on everyone’s good side.Which is pretty savvy as a casino operator–everyone loves to change the gambling laws on you.

    Good point, though. Maybe there’s hope.

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  53. @anon
    I've seen many times in comment sections where someone is accused of being a self-hating Jew for not being ethno-centric enough (but it's possible there's two kinds - dunno).

    It’s purposely ambiguous–the implication is that if you don’t identify strongly enough with Jewish interests, you must hate Jews and, therefore, yourself. Sort of the equivalent of an ‘Uncle Tom’.

    I always wonder why somebody doesn’t reply, “I don’t hate *myself*, I hate you guys…”

    Truth be told quite a few guys like Gilad Atzmon probably have issues with their relatives; I imagine most people annoyed at their ethnic group just keep their mouths shut and drift away from the tribe.

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    That's what I imagine. Half my ancestry stems from a remote swamp that didn't have a road till the late 1800s and yet in the 1600s a guy with a Polish name arrived out of the blue, changed it and married into the family. I don't know if he was Jewish or not but he must have really hated his relatives.
    , @ben tillman

    It’s purposely ambiguous–the implication is that if you don’t identify strongly enough with Jewish interests, you must hate Jews and, therefore, yourself. Sort of the equivalent of an ‘Uncle Tom’.

    I always wonder why somebody doesn’t reply, “I don’t hate *myself*, I hate you guys…”
     
    It's not the personal self; it's the communal or group self that a self-hating Jew supposedly hates.
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  54. @Harry Baldwin
    Jew-heavy New York gave Trump some of his best numbers

    The vast majority of Jews in New York are registered Democrats and thus don't vote in the Republican primary. They voted for open-borders Hillary. It's the upstate non-Jewish Republicans that voted for Trump primarily.

    Yes and no–Trump took the city, except for Manhattan. Which, given that it went for Kasich, was probably a class thing–you can look on the NYT’s website and see the nice little cutoff at 3rd avenue on the Upper East Side.

    Sailer’s got a point about homesickness–I know the city’s rotten and overpriced and full of bankers and lefties destroying America, but I still think of slouching through the streets between the tall buildings in my green parka on winter days, munching on a beef kebab with a crust of bread and barbecue sauce I really shouldn’t be eating.

    But you can’t go home again–the kebab guys are all halal now.

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  55. @Lot

    Do you think white people (Jewish people included) would feel guilty about what their ancestors did if we didn’t have to hear about how awful it was all the time?
     
    Guilt over the deeds of one's ancestors is a pretty rare and unnatural emotion. Certainly left-wing schools do their best to inculcate white guilt in children by ALWAYS portraying blacks as victims and virtuous and whites as either evil, or good primarily because they side with blacks over evil whites (like Lincoln).

    Tell it to the Germans. You might not feel too sorry for them 60 years ago, but the current generation…?

    The usual story is that Jews were too powerless to do much of anything to anyone, I think. Which isn’t *quite* true, but I do think they were more sinned against than sinning integrated over human history.

    Which doesn’t make me a fan of John Podhoretz or Tim Wise. What matters is what’s going on now.

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    John Podhoretz just stated on twitter that Israel took in 25,000 Vietnamese boat people. I can't find any information that Israel took in anything near that number. He blocked me long ago so I can't ask him for a link. Anyone know what he's talking about?
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  56. @Anonymous
    The majority's hate is especially vicious and making sure not to incite it is higher priority.

    The majority’s hate is especially brutal? It is? How so? Go spend a few fun-filled hours on World Star Hip. It’s like faces of death. The worst brutality I see in this country is done by the group that makes up about 3% of the population. Black males between 15 and 30. Here’s a recent sample out of Baltimore public schools.

    And I could post a LOT of videos like this white white victims.

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    If the media told the truth after all these years of lying most white liberals would go into shock.
    , @Anonymous
    Those are individual acts of brutality by minorities. Organized brutality by the majority is the most dangerous. If the majority got fed up with individual or even organized attacks by blacks against whites, it could solve the problem very quickly. So even though those attacks are brutal, the majority is still in total control.
    , @Romanian
    That was a really shocking video. The part where his arm just goes up and down like he has brain damage or something was really unsettling. And this is in a school?
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  57. @SFG
    Tell it to the Germans. You might not feel too sorry for them 60 years ago, but the current generation...?

    The usual story is that Jews were too powerless to do much of anything to anyone, I think. Which isn't *quite* true, but I do think they were more sinned against than sinning integrated over human history.

    Which doesn't make me a fan of John Podhoretz or Tim Wise. What matters is what's going on now.

    John Podhoretz just stated on twitter that Israel took in 25,000 Vietnamese boat people. I can’t find any information that Israel took in anything near that number. He blocked me long ago so I can’t ask him for a link. Anyone know what he’s talking about?

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    It was 360 - adding zeros is normal for the middle-east; they all know to subtract them again to get the real number.
    , @Jack D
    I'm sorry but he is delusional in this case. Israel did take a few boat people but he is off by a factor of 100.
    , @cwhatfuture
    A few hundred Vietnamese boat people were picked up and taken to Israel (due to the intervention of Menachem Begin) and many have left Israel in the last 30 years or so.
    , @Luke Ford
    More like 360. http://www.timesofisrael.com/35-years-on-where-are-israels-vietnamese-refugees/
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  58. @Lot
    Interesting article. I'm glad to see all of the UK's good universities leaving the NUS after the election of an anti-semite leader.

    Both you and the Guardian refer to her as "black" and she previously headed a "black students" group. She appears to be a standard-issue Algerian muslim however. Is it normal in the UK to call North Africans "black" or does she have some recent Sub-Saharan ancestry?

    where white students are losing influence as demographics change
     
    It is not so much the decline of white students as the rise of Muslim students. Mexicans and Chinese don't care about BDS, but I'm sure white Muslims do.

    It is not so much the decline of white students as the rise of Muslim students. Mexicans and Chinese don’t care about BDS, but I’m sure white Muslims do.

    My experience is that East Asians aren’t *generally* a problem for SJW causes, but Hindus often are. Hindus are not exactly pro-Muslim per se, but as an out-group and as non-Christians the discourse of the SJW/SWPL whites tends to resonate with them. The need of the SWPL crowd to build a fringe coalition of useful idiots to support their ideas makes them receptive to picking up trash, which they spread to the other groups. With respect to anti-Zionism/anti-Semitism, this is widespread among Muslims AND blacks, and politically active Hispanics from lower class (darker) backgrounds (i.e., the ones that tend to assimilate to African-American norms) can certainly be virulently anti-Zionist *and* anti-Semitic.

    Also, the reflexive anti-American proclivity of SJW-SWPLs, who are by no means anti-Semitic, nevertheless makes them receptive to denunciations of Israel as a “satellite state” of the U.S..

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    I tend to agree with this, except that I don't think Mexicans are anti-Semitic at any level.

    The confusion with this is that when you do a survey of them of attitudes towards Jews, they answer honestly. Sometimes the questions are just looking to see if they hold stereotypes, even positive or neutral ones. Not being politically correct, they will say things like "Jews run the media" or "Jews are good at business" without meaning anything negative by it.

    The best test for anti-Semitism is, "would you mind if your sister married a Jewish person who was willing to convert to your religion?" The last qualifier is needed to exclude people who just care about their religion a lot. Stormfronters would certainly care, 99.9% of Mexicans and probably 99.5% of white Americans would not.

    Indian Hindus seem to be all over the political spectrum.
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  59. @Lot

    Anti-white Gentilism is of course, more accurate but I think for most purposes anti-white suffices.
     
    I agree with that. Steve writes a lot about the hypocrisy of various Jews who support ethno-nationalism for Israel but not for whites in the USA or Europe.

    I agree with him that they are wrong and hypocrites. However, it is a strange focus because we are not really talking about too large group, and the vast majority of Jews are either consistently anti-white or consistently pro-white.

    Trump v Kasich/Rubio was a pretty good test of whether you are OK with the demographic destruction of white America or not, and Jew-heavy New York gave Trump some of his best numbers, as did Florida. (A vote for Cruz is hard to categorize. He really is better than most Republicans, but he's also oily about the issue and seems to favor a very large increase in "guest workers" and H1B.)

    I agree with him that they are wrong and hypocrites. However, it is a strange focus because we are not really talking about too large group, and the vast majority of Jews are either consistently anti-white or consistently pro-white.

    Personally I like the focus on “anti-white” as I believe it’s counterproductive to really make the movement an anti-Jewish one, although I do like when pro-Israel/anti-White hypocrisy is brought into focus, because it needs to be. And anti-white gentilism is a little on the clunky side.

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  60. @frizzled
    I want to point out the reality of a lot of Jewish culture and ritual is about hating Gentiles in some way.

    Take Passover. Pesach celebrates when, in Jewish myth, God 'passed over' the houses of the Jews on the way to murder the first born sons of all the non Jews in Egypt.

    Jews celebrate this. If you've celebrated Passover, you'll know Jews explicitly celebrate all the terrible things God did to the Egyptians. They chant the names of the ten plagues joyously. Jews celebrate the death of non-Jews. It's not a turn-the-other-cheek kind of religion.

    Think about the mindset you'd have doing these rituals year after year. Jews despise Gentiles and don't mind ripping them off and cheating them.

    Think about the mindset you’d have doing these rituals year after year. Jews despise Gentiles and don’t mind ripping them off and cheating them.

    Religions are a double-edged sword. They have the power to unify and motivate people. At the same time, they have a certain inflexibility to them that leads to the same mistakes being repeated ad infinitum.

    The chutzpah of Jews to try something unimaginably ballsy is a strength and also a weakness. Some ideas are dumb, in the long-run counterproductive, and shouldn’t be tried. PC is one of them. Marxism probably another. My guess is that this tendency to overreach has probably been at the root of a lot of pogroms throughout the centuries. It is dangerous to keep pushing people who by nature, tend to bottle their anger.

    The war-making focus of Muslims is both a strength for them and a weakness. In the era of very slow progress of war technology, it was a strength for them. In an era where technology plays such a large part, the focus on war as opposed to economy and science is a weakness. Also a weakness is the urge to attack and strike terror rather than bide their time and wait until they have demographic superiority.

    Christians have their weaknesses too. The urge to proselytize to non-whites is a huge weakness. There are others of course.

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    The chutzpah of Jews to try something unimaginably ballsy is a strength and also a weakness. Some ideas are dumb, in the long-run counterproductive, and shouldn’t be tried. PC is one of them. Marxism probably another. My guess is that this tendency to overreach has probably been at the root of a lot of pogroms throughout the centuries. It is dangerous to keep pushing people who by nature, tend to bottle their anger.
     
    But at the same time, it's possible and tempting to keep pushing people who, by nature, tend to bottle their anger,
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  61. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @SFG
    It's purposely ambiguous--the implication is that if you don't identify strongly enough with Jewish interests, you must hate Jews and, therefore, yourself. Sort of the equivalent of an 'Uncle Tom'.

    I always wonder why somebody doesn't reply, "I don't hate *myself*, I hate you guys..."

    Truth be told quite a few guys like Gilad Atzmon probably have issues with their relatives; I imagine most people annoyed at their ethnic group just keep their mouths shut and drift away from the tribe.

    That’s what I imagine. Half my ancestry stems from a remote swamp that didn’t have a road till the late 1800s and yet in the 1600s a guy with a Polish name arrived out of the blue, changed it and married into the family. I don’t know if he was Jewish or not but he must have really hated his relatives.

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  62. @Malcolm X-Lax
    The majority's hate is especially brutal? It is? How so? Go spend a few fun-filled hours on World Star Hip. It's like faces of death. The worst brutality I see in this country is done by the group that makes up about 3% of the population. Black males between 15 and 30. Here's a recent sample out of Baltimore public schools.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usrBSOiH2TM

    And I could post a LOT of videos like this white white victims.

    If the media told the truth after all these years of lying most white liberals would go into shock.

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  63. @Malcolm X-Lax
    John Podhoretz just stated on twitter that Israel took in 25,000 Vietnamese boat people. I can't find any information that Israel took in anything near that number. He blocked me long ago so I can't ask him for a link. Anyone know what he's talking about?

    It was 360 – adding zeros is normal for the middle-east; they all know to subtract them again to get the real number.

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  64. Generic Comment

    The vast majority of the World’s Gentiles are non-White. It seems that many people here do not know this? I’m puzzled.

    If every single Jew hated every single White with a blinding furious hate hotter than a thousand Suns what would that have to do with ‘anti-Gentilism’?

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  65. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Malcolm X-Lax
    The majority's hate is especially brutal? It is? How so? Go spend a few fun-filled hours on World Star Hip. It's like faces of death. The worst brutality I see in this country is done by the group that makes up about 3% of the population. Black males between 15 and 30. Here's a recent sample out of Baltimore public schools.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usrBSOiH2TM

    And I could post a LOT of videos like this white white victims.

    Those are individual acts of brutality by minorities. Organized brutality by the majority is the most dangerous. If the majority got fed up with individual or even organized attacks by blacks against whites, it could solve the problem very quickly. So even though those attacks are brutal, the majority is still in total control.

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    usually when comparing potential victims vs actual victims the actual victims take priority - except when they're white
    , @Mr. Anon
    Those are individual acts of brutality by minorities. Organized brutality by the majority is the most dangerous."

    Not when it is non-existent, and attacks by the minority are real, common, and brutal.

    "So even though those attacks are brutal, the majority is still in total control."

    Evidently not, or they would.......exercise some control.

    Your sophistry impresses nobody here, except perhaps you, in which case, you are easily impressed.

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  66. @Anonym
    I definitely feel the sentiment, but part of the trouble is that the demographic I think you are concerned about when raising this is non-Jewish white people, right Steve? It's not Gentiles specifically, and it's probably not whites although when we talk about anti-White activity that's 90% the way there. Jews are what, 2% of white people or something like that in the USA? Maybe 3-4% given that the 2% figure from memory applies to all of the USA rather than just the white people.

    Anyway, if some guy coincidentally named Cohen writes an article about the unbearable whiteness of X, what do we call it? Is it anti-Gentilism or Anti-Whitism? My guess is that he doesn't write equivalently hatey articles about the stifling brownness of the kitchen hands of every eatery in the USA, or the horrible blackness of the NBA etc. So to my mind, calling his article anti-White captures the target of his animus pretty well. Is he going to complain "How can I be anti-white, I'm white myself, aren't I?"? Well, he could do this but he's just playing semantics. The term is 96%+ of the way there.

    OTOH, anti-Gentilism really doesn't capture this because he doesn't care if so-called redneck whites are doing poorly because they have to compete in a rigged game with non-white Gentiles, or if all the Ivy League schools have quotas such that 10% of the student body is now white and the other 90% are various non-whites... so long as the Jews are taken care of.

    Anti-white Gentilism is of course, more accurate but I think for most purposes anti-white suffices.

    I think the proper term ought to be “antijaphetism.” When we are talking about Jewish bias against white Gentiles, I think the best thing to do is to use the terminology that is linguistically the most equivalent. (For a more general distrust of non-Jews, antigentilism might do).

    “Antisemitism” essentially refers to Jew’s origins as the descendants of Shem; biblically, white Gentiles are descendants of Japheth, so the proper term would be antijaphetism (I think making the last “t” hard improves the flow of the word – besides, we don’t call it “antishemitism”).

    I also think it sounds better than “antiwhitism,” because using the English word in a term such as that makes it sound more made up (e.g. when classifying new phobias, people find an equivalent or as close as possible Greek word for the prefix rather than just using the English word – coulrophobia instead of clownophobia).

    It also makes it easier to criticize such bias where it is found because to the extent that anti-white Gentile bias is a motivating factor, you can criticize that rather than criticizing “Jews” in general – plus, it gives you a nifty term to use to refer to Jews who are friendly to white Gentiles or who see their interests as compatible – philojaphetic.

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  67. @anony-mouse
    But isn't referring to 'anti-Gentilism' anti-Gentile?

    Gentiles make up 99 point whatever percent of the dominant species on the only inhabited planet we know of.

    Yet 'anti-Gentilism' implies what really matters is what the tiny rest could be thinking.

    Maybe because I'm the only person here who looks on the bright side of things (i.e. overwhelmingly Gentile things), that makes me the only pro-Gentile person here.

    Yet ‘anti-Gentilism’ implies what really matters is what the tiny rest could be thinking.

    What that tiny rest thinks matters. A lot.
    There seem to be about 16 millions jews in the world at the moment but they matter a whole lot more than the 16 million Guatemalans or the 15 million Senegalese in the world, don’t you agree ?

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    Same difference.

    If there's 99 of 'A'

    and 1 of 'B'

    Then implying that what B may think is extremely important is anti-A

    Doesn't matter what group 'A' or 'B' are.

    Therefore 'Anti-Gentilism' is anti-Gentile.

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  68. @Anonymous
    Those are individual acts of brutality by minorities. Organized brutality by the majority is the most dangerous. If the majority got fed up with individual or even organized attacks by blacks against whites, it could solve the problem very quickly. So even though those attacks are brutal, the majority is still in total control.

    usually when comparing potential victims vs actual victims the actual victims take priority – except when they’re white

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  69. fwiw–a synonym for Anti-Gentilism: Anti-non-Semitism, cf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiksa

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  70. @Anonymous
    Those are individual acts of brutality by minorities. Organized brutality by the majority is the most dangerous. If the majority got fed up with individual or even organized attacks by blacks against whites, it could solve the problem very quickly. So even though those attacks are brutal, the majority is still in total control.

    Those are individual acts of brutality by minorities. Organized brutality by the majority is the most dangerous.”

    Not when it is non-existent, and attacks by the minority are real, common, and brutal.

    “So even though those attacks are brutal, the majority is still in total control.”

    Evidently not, or they would…….exercise some control.

    Your sophistry impresses nobody here, except perhaps you, in which case, you are easily impressed.

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  71. @Anonymous Nephew
    "part of the trouble is that the demographic I think you are concerned about when raising this is non-Jewish white people, right Steve?"

    Steve's written a fair bit about BDS (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions) in relation to Israel and how the movement is growing fastest on campuses where white students are losing influence as demographics change.

    In the UK the new black and pro-Palestinian president of the National Union of Students (traditionally a gateway to a career in politics and/or media) is getting the same treatment (and more) from the liberal media and well-organised pressure groups as the white and pro-Palestinian leader of the Labour Party is getting.

    http://www.theguardian.com/education/2016/apr/22/malia-bouattia-election-nus-president-deeply-divisive-jewish-student-groups

    I’ve heard from people like Gilad Atzmon that the anti-Zionist left has to a great degree been conned into viewing the Israel question in the light of anti-colonialism. He says that the anti-zionists who get to air their views are the ones who fight Israel as a european colonial state and not those who fight Israel as a jewish project, separate from european colonialism.

    What does someone like Bouattia think of Israel, really ? Is she really anti-semitic or is she simply anti-european and she hates Israel *because she thinks it’s a bunch of Poles and Russians who stole land from brownz* ?

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    For some being anti-Israel is probably a stealth way of being anti-white.
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  72. @Lot
    Interesting article. I'm glad to see all of the UK's good universities leaving the NUS after the election of an anti-semite leader.

    Both you and the Guardian refer to her as "black" and she previously headed a "black students" group. She appears to be a standard-issue Algerian muslim however. Is it normal in the UK to call North Africans "black" or does she have some recent Sub-Saharan ancestry?

    where white students are losing influence as demographics change
     
    It is not so much the decline of white students as the rise of Muslim students. Mexicans and Chinese don't care about BDS, but I'm sure white Muslims do.

    I think it’s a far left UK thing to call all nonwhites “black”. It’s not even a British thing in general but a part of the anti-racist culture over there.

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    I think it’s a far left UK thing to call all nonwhites “black”. It’s not even a British thing in general but a part of the anti-racist culture over there.

     

    Thanks for the explanation.
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  73. @frizzled
    I want to point out the reality of a lot of Jewish culture and ritual is about hating Gentiles in some way.

    Take Passover. Pesach celebrates when, in Jewish myth, God 'passed over' the houses of the Jews on the way to murder the first born sons of all the non Jews in Egypt.

    Jews celebrate this. If you've celebrated Passover, you'll know Jews explicitly celebrate all the terrible things God did to the Egyptians. They chant the names of the ten plagues joyously. Jews celebrate the death of non-Jews. It's not a turn-the-other-cheek kind of religion.

    Think about the mindset you'd have doing these rituals year after year. Jews despise Gentiles and don't mind ripping them off and cheating them.

    You have this precisely backward. At the Passover Seder the recitation of the plagues is accompanied by the spilling of drops of wine from each participant’s cup. In Judaism, a full cup is the symbol of joy (“my cup runneth over”) so by diminishing the wine in our cups, we symbolize that our joy in liberation was diminished by the suffering of the Egyptians.

    On the other hand, I don’t recall that many Americans were sad when they heard that we had nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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    Sure sounds like a celebration of Gentile suffering to me. The recitation of the plagues is joyous. "Thanks for killing their first born sons and giving us their loot, God!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTb5rfqc9jo

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayenu

    http://www.haggadot.com/clip/dayenu-english-hebrew-and-transliteration

    Had He brought us out from Egypt and not executed judgment against them,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He executed judgment against them and not destroyed their idols,
    It would been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He destroyed their idols and not slain their firstborn,
    It would been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He slain their first born and not given us their possessions,
    It would have been enough!, Dayenu!

    Had He given us their possessions and not divided the sea for us,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He divided the sea for us and not brought us through it dry-shod,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He brought us through it dry-shod and not drowned our oppressors in it,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He drowned our oppressors in it and not sustained us in the wilderness for forty years,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He sustained us in the wilderness for forty years and not fed us manna,
    It would have been enough Dayenu!

    Had He fed us manna and not given us the Sabbath,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He given us the Sabbath and not brought us to mount Sinai,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had he brought us to Mount Sinai, and not given us the Torah,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had he given us the Torah and not brought us in the land of Israel,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He brought us into the Land of Israel and not built the temple for us,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

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  74. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Those are individual acts of brutality by minorities. Organized brutality by the majority is the most dangerous.”

    Is that you, Pol Pot? I was worried the reincarnation was not going to work.

    “As far as my conscience and my mission were concerned, there was no problem”

    “The first step in progress is to exterminate the entire class”

    “To keep you is no benefit, to destroy you is no loss”

    “Purify the masses of the people”

    “Better to kill an innocent by mistake than spare an enemy by mistake”

    “If you have a disease of the old society, take a dose of Lenin as medication”

    “He who protests is an enemy; he who opposes is a corpse”

    “If you wish to live exactly as you please, (we) will put aside a small piece of land for you”

    “Hunger is the most effective disease”

    “We will burn the old grass and the new will grow”

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  75. @Malcolm X-Lax
    John Podhoretz just stated on twitter that Israel took in 25,000 Vietnamese boat people. I can't find any information that Israel took in anything near that number. He blocked me long ago so I can't ask him for a link. Anyone know what he's talking about?

    I’m sorry but he is delusional in this case. Israel did take a few boat people but he is off by a factor of 100.

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  76. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “You have this precisely backward. At the Passover Seder the recitation of the plagues is accompanied by the spilling of drops of wine from each participant’s cup. In Judaism, a full cup is the symbol of joy (“my cup runneth over”) so by diminishing the wine in our cups, we symbolize that our joy in liberation was diminished by the suffering of the Egyptians.”

    All I know about any of this is what I read in the wikipedia, that’s not quite the connotation I got:

    “…
    5. Dever (pestilence)—A plague killed off the Egyptian livestock

    10. Makkat Bechorot (killing of the first-born)—All the first-born sons of the Egyptians were slain by God

    With the recital of the Ten Plagues, each participant removes a drop of wine from his or her cup using a fingertip. Although this night is one of salvation, Don Isaac Abravanel explains that one cannot be completely joyous when some of God’s creatures had to suffer.”

    Gods creatures usually means animals, as opposed to humans. Normally if he had meant to include Egyptians, you’d expect him to have said so. Is this made clear elsewhere?

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    That's all you got? That "God's Creatures" doesn't include humans based on your own interpretation of a Wikipedia article? That's it? That's pathetically weak. Why didn't you try the source given in the Wikipedia article itself:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=Dstt4jyJGqwC&pg=PA126&lpg=PA126&dq=Don+Isaac+Abarbanel+wine+seder&source=bl&ots=HKHao1KJYa&sig=bKbMVuWtFBbSVri3_VNPp_MkDYo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjjuOXS-KjMAhUG_R4KHeikBcsQ6AEIQjAG#v=onepage&q=Don%20Isaac%20Abarbanel%20wine%20seder&f=false

    Of course, humans were created by God, as soon as He was done making the other animals. Read Genesis (and not a Wikipedia article about Genesis). Sometimes I am tempted to believe that humans alone are the work of the Devil, but then I listen to a Mozart symphony or look at a Rembrandt self-portrait and I know that humans were also touched by the Divine.
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  77. anon • Disclaimer says:

    I suspect a big part of what’s going on here is that the word “Gentile” itself is no longer in common usage. Not among Jews, anyway. So obviously the “anti” is at least as rare. Jackie Mason had his whole ‘Jews vs. Gentiles’ routine in the 1950s. The term probably sounded more natural then.

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  78. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Since white gentiles are the solid majority of the country at about approx. 65% of the population why do you want to encourage the newspaper of record to rally the majority people against minority opponents? (White gentiles who are leftists are not anti-gentiles, they are self-hating.)

    The only people who can be anti-gentiles are minorities. Why do you want to fire up the majority against those minorities? Do you not understand the policy reasons for suppressing majority unity expressed in racial animus against others? Or more likely do you just not care?

    Since white gentiles are the solid majority of the country at about approx. 65% of the population why do you want to encourage the newspaper of record to rally the majority people against minority opponents?

    How much time do you spend scouring non-white gentile majority forums, telling them to cool down the open antiwhite rhetoric, for the sake of white gentile minorities?

    America was 90% white, now it’s down to 65% with great assistance from an overtly hostile antiwhite media, and people who demand that All & Only white populations have no right to self preservation.

    How committed are you to an anti-majority stance globally? In what non white majority countries are we seeing priority for “diversity”, for “antiracism”, for mass immigration from peoples different than the majority population?

    Do you not understand the policy reasons for suppressing majority unity expressed in racial animus against others? Or more likely do you just not care?

    Since you’re so concerned about minorities, shouldn’t you be worried about whites?

    They are less than 10% of the worlds population and falling fast. They are the only ones who are facing mass immigration and demographic displacement in every country they populate. They are facing an openly antiwhite mainstream media and global narrative, which is extremely dangerous considering their demographic danger.

    Why do you not care about these minorities?

    As usual, Antiracist is code for Antiwhite.

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  79. @Malcolm X-Lax
    John Podhoretz just stated on twitter that Israel took in 25,000 Vietnamese boat people. I can't find any information that Israel took in anything near that number. He blocked me long ago so I can't ask him for a link. Anyone know what he's talking about?

    A few hundred Vietnamese boat people were picked up and taken to Israel (due to the intervention of Menachem Begin) and many have left Israel in the last 30 years or so.

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  80. @ogunsiron
    Yet ‘anti-Gentilism’ implies what really matters is what the tiny rest could be thinking.
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    What that tiny rest thinks matters. A lot.
    There seem to be about 16 millions jews in the world at the moment but they matter a whole lot more than the 16 million Guatemalans or the 15 million Senegalese in the world, don't you agree ?

    Same difference.

    If there’s 99 of ‘A’

    and 1 of ‘B’

    Then implying that what B may think is extremely important is anti-A

    Doesn’t matter what group ‘A’ or ‘B’ are.

    Therefore ‘Anti-Gentilism’ is anti-Gentile.

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    If there’s 99 of ‘A’

    and 1 of ‘B’

    Except that when it comes to things that matter, like the Forbes 400 or top political donors or top pundits, the numbers are much more even, with B possessing a huge vocabulary of why and how to monitor and embarrass A, while A has no vocabulary whatsoever.

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  81. @anony-mouse
    Same difference.

    If there's 99 of 'A'

    and 1 of 'B'

    Then implying that what B may think is extremely important is anti-A

    Doesn't matter what group 'A' or 'B' are.

    Therefore 'Anti-Gentilism' is anti-Gentile.

    If there’s 99 of ‘A’

    and 1 of ‘B’

    Except that when it comes to things that matter, like the Forbes 400 or top political donors or top pundits, the numbers are much more even, with B possessing a huge vocabulary of why and how to monitor and embarrass A, while A has no vocabulary whatsoever.

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  82. @anonymous
    "You have this precisely backward. At the Passover Seder the recitation of the plagues is accompanied by the spilling of drops of wine from each participant’s cup. In Judaism, a full cup is the symbol of joy (“my cup runneth over”) so by diminishing the wine in our cups, we symbolize that our joy in liberation was diminished by the suffering of the Egyptians."

    All I know about any of this is what I read in the wikipedia, that's not quite the connotation I got:


    "...
    5. Dever (pestilence)—A plague killed off the Egyptian livestock
    ...
    10. Makkat Bechorot (killing of the first-born)—All the first-born sons of the Egyptians were slain by God
    ...

    With the recital of the Ten Plagues, each participant removes a drop of wine from his or her cup using a fingertip. Although this night is one of salvation, Don Isaac Abravanel explains that one cannot be completely joyous when some of God's creatures had to suffer."

     

    Gods creatures usually means animals, as opposed to humans. Normally if he had meant to include Egyptians, you'd expect him to have said so. Is this made clear elsewhere?

    That’s all you got? That “God’s Creatures” doesn’t include humans based on your own interpretation of a Wikipedia article? That’s it? That’s pathetically weak. Why didn’t you try the source given in the Wikipedia article itself:

    https://books.google.com/books?id=Dstt4jyJGqwC&pg=PA126&lpg=PA126&dq=Don+Isaac+Abarbanel+wine+seder&source=bl&ots=HKHao1KJYa&sig=bKbMVuWtFBbSVri3_VNPp_MkDYo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjjuOXS-KjMAhUG_R4KHeikBcsQ6AEIQjAG#v=onepage&q=Don%20Isaac%20Abarbanel%20wine%20seder&f=false

    Of course, humans were created by God, as soon as He was done making the other animals. Read Genesis (and not a Wikipedia article about Genesis). Sometimes I am tempted to believe that humans alone are the work of the Devil, but then I listen to a Mozart symphony or look at a Rembrandt self-portrait and I know that humans were also touched by the Divine.

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  83. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    That’s all you got?

    Yes, I don’t know much about religious practices.

    Read Genesis (and not a Wikipedia article about Genesis).

    A more productive idea might be for you to edit that wikipedia article.

    I am not religious and don’t like religions, but it’s not that big a deal to me. (I just don’t seem to have a personality inclined to religion; I do think religious have often socially been of great benefit.) After looking at the link you provide, your answer is the sort of thing that makes me dislike the strident side of religions and the overtly religious. I don’t think you have been honest with me.

    On the previous page, page 125, about the spilling of a bit of wine it says, “This practice probably originated in an ancient belief that in so doing we ward off evil–nolo me tangere (…). Some explain that since the wine is usually spilled by dipping a finger into the cup, the practice refers to the verse “This is the finger of God” (Exod. 8:15). A more rationalistic explanation is given by Don Isaac Abarbanel. The spilling of the wine is a sign that our cup of joy is not full since our deliverance involved the punishment of others; our joy is made incomplete by the fact that the Egyptians suffered so that we might be liberated.”

    Your explanation was incomplete. It sounds like it is not really known why the practice is done, there are a number of possible explanations. It is likely an old tradition with an origin that even the religion’s leadership don’t know.

    A quick google (sorry, not Genesis) finds little obvious consistency:

    “Why Do We Spill Wine on Passover Night?”:

    “…So after reading each plague we spill wine from the cup, banishing the forces of punishment and its curses, and leaving the cup with only blessings. The spilled wine should then be discarded, for drinking it would be drinking in the plagues…”

    “Why do we pour wine out of the cup at the Seder?”:

    “…Here are some of the symbolisms…

    …Just as the Egyptians became less in number with each plague, so, too, it is appropriate to lessen the amount of wine in our cups…

    …when we mention the plagues, we “pour” them out of our cups…

    …because other people suffered in the process of our liberation…

    …as we pour out the wine, we are ridding ourselves of any anger and indignation we may harbor…”

    So it sounds like a religious practice that can be fit to purpose as needed by the circumstances.

    I wasn’t aware of the story of all this killing of first borns. God killing all the first borns? Do people really believe that?

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    Whatever interpretation you put on the reasons for spilling out the drops of wine, none of them involve "joyously" chanting the name of the 10 plagues as frizzled claimed.

    As for literally believing the story of Passover and the slaying of the first born, there are many people who believe that Jesus was resurrected after being dead for 3 days. You have to respect religious belief on the basis of faith and not ask whether these stories can be shown to be true with scientific or historical certainty.

    There's an old joke about this:

    Nine year old Joey, was asked by his mother what he had learned in Sunday school.
    "Well, Mom, our teacher told us how God sent Moses behind enemy lines on a rescue mission to lead the Israelites out of Egypt. When he got to the Red Sea, he had his engineers build a pontoon bridge and all the people walked across safely. Then he used his walkie-talkie to radio headquarters and they sent bombers to blow up the bridge and all the Israelites were saved."
    "Now, Joey, is that really what your teacher taught you?" His mother asked.
    "Well, no, Mom. But if I told it the way the teacher did, you'd never believe it!"
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  84. @anonymous
    That’s all you got?

    Yes, I don't know much about religious practices.

    Read Genesis (and not a Wikipedia article about Genesis).

    A more productive idea might be for you to edit that wikipedia article.

    I am not religious and don't like religions, but it's not that big a deal to me. (I just don't seem to have a personality inclined to religion; I do think religious have often socially been of great benefit.) After looking at the link you provide, your answer is the sort of thing that makes me dislike the strident side of religions and the overtly religious. I don't think you have been honest with me.

    On the previous page, page 125, about the spilling of a bit of wine it says, "This practice probably originated in an ancient belief that in so doing we ward off evil--nolo me tangere (...). Some explain that since the wine is usually spilled by dipping a finger into the cup, the practice refers to the verse "This is the finger of God" (Exod. 8:15). A more rationalistic explanation is given by Don Isaac Abarbanel. The spilling of the wine is a sign that our cup of joy is not full since our deliverance involved the punishment of others; our joy is made incomplete by the fact that the Egyptians suffered so that we might be liberated."

    Your explanation was incomplete. It sounds like it is not really known why the practice is done, there are a number of possible explanations. It is likely an old tradition with an origin that even the religion's leadership don't know.

    A quick google (sorry, not Genesis) finds little obvious consistency:

    "Why Do We Spill Wine on Passover Night?":


    "...So after reading each plague we spill wine from the cup, banishing the forces of punishment and its curses, and leaving the cup with only blessings. The spilled wine should then be discarded, for drinking it would be drinking in the plagues..."

     

    "Why do we pour wine out of the cup at the Seder?":


    "...Here are some of the symbolisms...

    ...Just as the Egyptians became less in number with each plague, so, too, it is appropriate to lessen the amount of wine in our cups...

    ...when we mention the plagues, we "pour" them out of our cups...

    ...because other people suffered in the process of our liberation...

    ...as we pour out the wine, we are ridding ourselves of any anger and indignation we may harbor..."

     

    So it sounds like a religious practice that can be fit to purpose as needed by the circumstances.

    I wasn't aware of the story of all this killing of first borns. God killing all the first borns? Do people really believe that?

    Whatever interpretation you put on the reasons for spilling out the drops of wine, none of them involve “joyously” chanting the name of the 10 plagues as frizzled claimed.

    As for literally believing the story of Passover and the slaying of the first born, there are many people who believe that Jesus was resurrected after being dead for 3 days. You have to respect religious belief on the basis of faith and not ask whether these stories can be shown to be true with scientific or historical certainty.

    There’s an old joke about this:

    Nine year old Joey, was asked by his mother what he had learned in Sunday school.
    “Well, Mom, our teacher told us how God sent Moses behind enemy lines on a rescue mission to lead the Israelites out of Egypt. When he got to the Red Sea, he had his engineers build a pontoon bridge and all the people walked across safely. Then he used his walkie-talkie to radio headquarters and they sent bombers to blow up the bridge and all the Israelites were saved.”
    “Now, Joey, is that really what your teacher taught you?” His mother asked.
    “Well, no, Mom. But if I told it the way the teacher did, you’d never believe it!”

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  85. @Art
    What a gentlemanly sanitary erudite discussion about a subject boiling with such hate.

    The primary words are fudged. Anti-Semite is a fudge word and Gentilism is a fudge word. Why not use the real words - Jew and Gentile?

    Dare the truth be discussed.

    p.s. However the term “self-hating Jew” is spot on – the words are 100% accurate.

    “Why not use the real words – Jew and Gentile?”

    The real phenomena are Indo-European and Semite.

    The 1983 edition of the Penguin Atlas of World History refers to Mesopotamia at a certain point in history/pre-history becoming Semitised. (My guess is that that expression disappeared from the PAWH around 1992).

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  86. @Jack D
    You have this precisely backward. At the Passover Seder the recitation of the plagues is accompanied by the spilling of drops of wine from each participant's cup. In Judaism, a full cup is the symbol of joy ("my cup runneth over") so by diminishing the wine in our cups, we symbolize that our joy in liberation was diminished by the suffering of the Egyptians.

    On the other hand, I don't recall that many Americans were sad when they heard that we had nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    Sure sounds like a celebration of Gentile suffering to me. The recitation of the plagues is joyous. “Thanks for killing their first born sons and giving us their loot, God!”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayenu

    http://www.haggadot.com/clip/dayenu-english-hebrew-and-transliteration

    Had He brought us out from Egypt and not executed judgment against them,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He executed judgment against them and not destroyed their idols,
    It would been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He destroyed their idols and not slain their firstborn,
    It would been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He slain their first born and not given us their possessions,
    It would have been enough!, Dayenu!

    Had He given us their possessions and not divided the sea for us,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He divided the sea for us and not brought us through it dry-shod,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He brought us through it dry-shod and not drowned our oppressors in it,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He drowned our oppressors in it and not sustained us in the wilderness for forty years,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He sustained us in the wilderness for forty years and not fed us manna,
    It would have been enough Dayenu!

    Had He fed us manna and not given us the Sabbath,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He given us the Sabbath and not brought us to mount Sinai,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had he brought us to Mount Sinai, and not given us the Torah,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had he given us the Torah and not brought us in the land of Israel,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He brought us into the Land of Israel and not built the temple for us,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

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    In contrast to Jewish jubilation over the defeat of the Egyptians, Americans observed VE Day and VJ Day as somber days of mourning for our fallen enemies. I remember seeing the photos from Time Square where everyone stood somberly and bowed their head in silent prayer for our lost Japanese and German brothers.

    Likewise, each year on the 4th of July, we remember the Hessians fallen at Trenton, the redcoats lost at Lexington and Concord and so on and we sing somber dirges in their memory.

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  87. @frizzled
    Sure sounds like a celebration of Gentile suffering to me. The recitation of the plagues is joyous. "Thanks for killing their first born sons and giving us their loot, God!"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTb5rfqc9jo

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayenu

    http://www.haggadot.com/clip/dayenu-english-hebrew-and-transliteration

    Had He brought us out from Egypt and not executed judgment against them,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He executed judgment against them and not destroyed their idols,
    It would been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He destroyed their idols and not slain their firstborn,
    It would been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He slain their first born and not given us their possessions,
    It would have been enough!, Dayenu!

    Had He given us their possessions and not divided the sea for us,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He divided the sea for us and not brought us through it dry-shod,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He brought us through it dry-shod and not drowned our oppressors in it,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He drowned our oppressors in it and not sustained us in the wilderness for forty years,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He sustained us in the wilderness for forty years and not fed us manna,
    It would have been enough Dayenu!

    Had He fed us manna and not given us the Sabbath,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He given us the Sabbath and not brought us to mount Sinai,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had he brought us to Mount Sinai, and not given us the Torah,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had he given us the Torah and not brought us in the land of Israel,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    Had He brought us into the Land of Israel and not built the temple for us,
    It would have been enough! Dayenu!

    In contrast to Jewish jubilation over the defeat of the Egyptians, Americans observed VE Day and VJ Day as somber days of mourning for our fallen enemies. I remember seeing the photos from Time Square where everyone stood somberly and bowed their head in silent prayer for our lost Japanese and German brothers.

    Likewise, each year on the 4th of July, we remember the Hessians fallen at Trenton, the redcoats lost at Lexington and Concord and so on and we sing somber dirges in their memory.

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    In contrast to Jewish jubilation over the defeat of the Egyptians, Americans observed VE Day and VJ Day as somber days of mourning for our fallen enemies.
     
    There is a difference between celebrating victory in the moment and celebrating it annually for thousands of years! There is also a difference between celebrating the victory (the war is over and we won!) rather than the horrors wrought on others (the plagues, or the atomic bombs).

    Also worth mentioning is that America is now allied with all those countries we so horribly misused by your account. Contrast that to Israel, which still has an awkward relationship with Egypt (again, thousands of years later) and the only reason that relationship is not much worse is due to the intervention of those horrible Americans.

    As much as I like and admire much of the Jewish people and culture, as I get older I begin to understand how there have been so many pogroms over the years (as abominable as those were). IMHO people like you (or at least your persona here) are part of the problem rather than the solution. Please put your admirable intelligence and verbal skills to better use. Realize that biased and dishonest defense (notice the change from protestations of innocence to attack in your posts above once the actual words were posted) and overtly hostile acts (like public intellectuals' anti-white rhetoric) are not the way to make and maintain friends.
    , @Formerly CARealist
    What about Purim? Isn't that a celebration of the slaughter of a lot of Jewish enemies (Persian) straight from the book of Esther?

    Hey, go read the book of Psalms while you're at it. There's plenty of imprecatory Psalms that celebrate the vanquishing and cursing of Israel's enemies.

    Praising the victor really can't be separated from celebrating the enemy's defeat.
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  88. @Malcolm X-Lax
    The majority's hate is especially brutal? It is? How so? Go spend a few fun-filled hours on World Star Hip. It's like faces of death. The worst brutality I see in this country is done by the group that makes up about 3% of the population. Black males between 15 and 30. Here's a recent sample out of Baltimore public schools.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usrBSOiH2TM

    And I could post a LOT of videos like this white white victims.

    That was a really shocking video. The part where his arm just goes up and down like he has brain damage or something was really unsettling. And this is in a school?

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    Yep. Beautiful Baltimore. And the provocation? A moment of perceived disrespect. I've seen more videos than I care to recall of black thugs stomping people of various ethnicities who are unconscious or actively seizing; it's a real thing. Utter savagery.
    , @anon
    People don't realise how bad those schools are because of the media censorship but they're like slightly diluted versions of US prison movies.

    The main difference is there's less male rape - partly because there are girls to rape and partly due to the ppl doing it not being at peak testosterone yet. 18-24 or so is the peak for nastiness.
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  89. @gruff
    We need to take the term back! It could be our "n-word".

    Already in process. I take it you’ve never looked at therightstuff or mpcdot.com?

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    Yeah I don't get too deep into mpc - not enough time. I'll take a gander. Thanks!
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  90. @Malcolm X-Lax
    John Podhoretz just stated on twitter that Israel took in 25,000 Vietnamese boat people. I can't find any information that Israel took in anything near that number. He blocked me long ago so I can't ask him for a link. Anyone know what he's talking about?
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  91. @Jack D
    In contrast to Jewish jubilation over the defeat of the Egyptians, Americans observed VE Day and VJ Day as somber days of mourning for our fallen enemies. I remember seeing the photos from Time Square where everyone stood somberly and bowed their head in silent prayer for our lost Japanese and German brothers.

    Likewise, each year on the 4th of July, we remember the Hessians fallen at Trenton, the redcoats lost at Lexington and Concord and so on and we sing somber dirges in their memory.

    In contrast to Jewish jubilation over the defeat of the Egyptians, Americans observed VE Day and VJ Day as somber days of mourning for our fallen enemies.

    There is a difference between celebrating victory in the moment and celebrating it annually for thousands of years! There is also a difference between celebrating the victory (the war is over and we won!) rather than the horrors wrought on others (the plagues, or the atomic bombs).

    Also worth mentioning is that America is now allied with all those countries we so horribly misused by your account. Contrast that to Israel, which still has an awkward relationship with Egypt (again, thousands of years later) and the only reason that relationship is not much worse is due to the intervention of those horrible Americans.

    As much as I like and admire much of the Jewish people and culture, as I get older I begin to understand how there have been so many pogroms over the years (as abominable as those were). IMHO people like you (or at least your persona here) are part of the problem rather than the solution. Please put your admirable intelligence and verbal skills to better use. Realize that biased and dishonest defense (notice the change from protestations of innocence to attack in your posts above once the actual words were posted) and overtly hostile acts (like public intellectuals’ anti-white rhetoric) are not the way to make and maintain friends.

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  92. @No_0ne
    Already in process. I take it you've never looked at therightstuff or mpcdot.com?

    Yeah I don’t get too deep into mpc – not enough time. I’ll take a gander. Thanks!

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  93. @Romanian
    That was a really shocking video. The part where his arm just goes up and down like he has brain damage or something was really unsettling. And this is in a school?

    Yep. Beautiful Baltimore. And the provocation? A moment of perceived disrespect. I’ve seen more videos than I care to recall of black thugs stomping people of various ethnicities who are unconscious or actively seizing; it’s a real thing. Utter savagery.

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    http://www.citypaper.com/blogs/the-news-hole/bcpnews-after-a-shocking-school-assault-remembering-the-turner-station-stomp-20150921-story.html

    This story is about a black Baltimore attorney recalling how, back when he was in school, he was compelled to fight a fellow students:

    "I caught him flush with a left to the head, and then I hit him with two or three sharp right-and-left-hand combinations. Down he went. In the 'Turner Station stomp' we don't do like the white boys and stop punching when the opponent hits the ground. I continued to throw punches. His father grabbed me from the back and screamed 'you'll kill him!' And when his father grabbed me, my father grabbed him. Knowing my father, George, was enough for me to get off David. David was totally unconscious, and people rushed to try to revive him."
     
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  94. @ogunsiron
    I think it's a far left UK thing to call all nonwhites "black". It's not even a British thing in general but a part of the anti-racist culture over there.

    I think it’s a far left UK thing to call all nonwhites “black”. It’s not even a British thing in general but a part of the anti-racist culture over there.

    Thanks for the explanation.

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  95. @Nico

    It is not so much the decline of white students as the rise of Muslim students. Mexicans and Chinese don’t care about BDS, but I’m sure white Muslims do.
     
    My experience is that East Asians aren't *generally* a problem for SJW causes, but Hindus often are. Hindus are not exactly pro-Muslim per se, but as an out-group and as non-Christians the discourse of the SJW/SWPL whites tends to resonate with them. The need of the SWPL crowd to build a fringe coalition of useful idiots to support their ideas makes them receptive to picking up trash, which they spread to the other groups. With respect to anti-Zionism/anti-Semitism, this is widespread among Muslims AND blacks, and politically active Hispanics from lower class (darker) backgrounds (i.e., the ones that tend to assimilate to African-American norms) can certainly be virulently anti-Zionist *and* anti-Semitic.

    Also, the reflexive anti-American proclivity of SJW-SWPLs, who are by no means anti-Semitic, nevertheless makes them receptive to denunciations of Israel as a "satellite state" of the U.S..

    I tend to agree with this, except that I don’t think Mexicans are anti-Semitic at any level.

    The confusion with this is that when you do a survey of them of attitudes towards Jews, they answer honestly. Sometimes the questions are just looking to see if they hold stereotypes, even positive or neutral ones. Not being politically correct, they will say things like “Jews run the media” or “Jews are good at business” without meaning anything negative by it.

    The best test for anti-Semitism is, “would you mind if your sister married a Jewish person who was willing to convert to your religion?” The last qualifier is needed to exclude people who just care about their religion a lot. Stormfronters would certainly care, 99.9% of Mexicans and probably 99.5% of white Americans would not.

    Indian Hindus seem to be all over the political spectrum.

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    Indian Hindus seem to be all over the political spectrum.
     
    Only in India. In the U.S. 81% of them voted for Barack Obama. None of my (admittedly few) Indian-descended or Indian-mixed friends in the West sympathize with the left; however, this is explainable by the fact that all of their families have been Roman Catholic, on both sides, for many generations.
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  96. @ogunsiron
    I've heard from people like Gilad Atzmon that the anti-Zionist left has to a great degree been conned into viewing the Israel question in the light of anti-colonialism. He says that the anti-zionists who get to air their views are the ones who fight Israel as a european colonial state and not those who fight Israel as a jewish project, separate from european colonialism.

    What does someone like Bouattia think of Israel, really ? Is she really anti-semitic or is she simply anti-european and she hates Israel *because she thinks it's a bunch of Poles and Russians who stole land from brownz* ?

    For some being anti-Israel is probably a stealth way of being anti-white.

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    @Romanian
    That was a really shocking video. The part where his arm just goes up and down like he has brain damage or something was really unsettling. And this is in a school?

    People don’t realise how bad those schools are because of the media censorship but they’re like slightly diluted versions of US prison movies.

    The main difference is there’s less male rape – partly because there are girls to rape and partly due to the ppl doing it not being at peak testosterone yet. 18-24 or so is the peak for nastiness.

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  98. @Lot
    Interesting article. I'm glad to see all of the UK's good universities leaving the NUS after the election of an anti-semite leader.

    Both you and the Guardian refer to her as "black" and she previously headed a "black students" group. She appears to be a standard-issue Algerian muslim however. Is it normal in the UK to call North Africans "black" or does she have some recent Sub-Saharan ancestry?

    where white students are losing influence as demographics change
     
    It is not so much the decline of white students as the rise of Muslim students. Mexicans and Chinese don't care about BDS, but I'm sure white Muslims do.

    “Both you and the Guardian refer to her as “black” and she previously headed a “black students” group. She appears to be a standard-issue Algerian muslim however. Is it normal in the UK to call North Africans “black” or does she have some recent Sub-Saharan ancestry?

    That Algerian woman has obvious Sub Saharan African ancestry, especially when you look at her hair texture and facial features. She is a Mulata, hence why her skin is not as dark as that of people from countries like Senegal and Nigeria.

    Here are pictures of her.

    http://www.nus.org.uk/en/news/nus-black-students-officer-malia-bouattia-wins-eightwomen-award/

    She can easily pass for a Cape Verdean or a Louisiana Creole Of Color.

    Does she look like a White woman to you?

    If she does look White to you, I am not surprised because you are the same guy who thinks most Mexicans in Boyle Heights Los Angeles look White.

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  99. @Jack D
    In contrast to Jewish jubilation over the defeat of the Egyptians, Americans observed VE Day and VJ Day as somber days of mourning for our fallen enemies. I remember seeing the photos from Time Square where everyone stood somberly and bowed their head in silent prayer for our lost Japanese and German brothers.

    Likewise, each year on the 4th of July, we remember the Hessians fallen at Trenton, the redcoats lost at Lexington and Concord and so on and we sing somber dirges in their memory.

    What about Purim? Isn’t that a celebration of the slaughter of a lot of Jewish enemies (Persian) straight from the book of Esther?

    Hey, go read the book of Psalms while you’re at it. There’s plenty of imprecatory Psalms that celebrate the vanquishing and cursing of Israel’s enemies.

    Praising the victor really can’t be separated from celebrating the enemy’s defeat.

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  100. @Lot
    Interesting article. I'm glad to see all of the UK's good universities leaving the NUS after the election of an anti-semite leader.

    Both you and the Guardian refer to her as "black" and she previously headed a "black students" group. She appears to be a standard-issue Algerian muslim however. Is it normal in the UK to call North Africans "black" or does she have some recent Sub-Saharan ancestry?

    where white students are losing influence as demographics change
     
    It is not so much the decline of white students as the rise of Muslim students. Mexicans and Chinese don't care about BDS, but I'm sure white Muslims do.

    It is not so much the decline of white students as the rise of Muslim students. Mexicans and Chinese don’t care about BDS, but I’m sure white Muslims do.

    Exactly. BDS is nothing but Sharia law under a cover of “human rights”. It is nothing but importing middle eastern hatreds wholesale into the US. My response to any BDS muslim is to say if you don’t like Israel, don’t deal with it. Your business. But don’t tell me what to do. Don’t tell America what to do.

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  101. @Malcolm X-Lax
    Yep. Beautiful Baltimore. And the provocation? A moment of perceived disrespect. I've seen more videos than I care to recall of black thugs stomping people of various ethnicities who are unconscious or actively seizing; it's a real thing. Utter savagery.

    http://www.citypaper.com/blogs/the-news-hole/bcpnews-after-a-shocking-school-assault-remembering-the-turner-station-stomp-20150921-story.html

    This story is about a black Baltimore attorney recalling how, back when he was in school, he was compelled to fight a fellow students:

    “I caught him flush with a left to the head, and then I hit him with two or three sharp right-and-left-hand combinations. Down he went. In the ‘Turner Station stomp’ we don’t do like the white boys and stop punching when the opponent hits the ground. I continued to throw punches. His father grabbed me from the back and screamed ‘you’ll kill him!’ And when his father grabbed me, my father grabbed him. Knowing my father, George, was enough for me to get off David. David was totally unconscious, and people rushed to try to revive him.”

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  102. @Lot
    I tend to agree with this, except that I don't think Mexicans are anti-Semitic at any level.

    The confusion with this is that when you do a survey of them of attitudes towards Jews, they answer honestly. Sometimes the questions are just looking to see if they hold stereotypes, even positive or neutral ones. Not being politically correct, they will say things like "Jews run the media" or "Jews are good at business" without meaning anything negative by it.

    The best test for anti-Semitism is, "would you mind if your sister married a Jewish person who was willing to convert to your religion?" The last qualifier is needed to exclude people who just care about their religion a lot. Stormfronters would certainly care, 99.9% of Mexicans and probably 99.5% of white Americans would not.

    Indian Hindus seem to be all over the political spectrum.

    Indian Hindus seem to be all over the political spectrum.

    Only in India. In the U.S. 81% of them voted for Barack Obama. None of my (admittedly few) Indian-descended or Indian-mixed friends in the West sympathize with the left; however, this is explainable by the fact that all of their families have been Roman Catholic, on both sides, for many generations.

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  103. @Lot
    Interesting article. I'm glad to see all of the UK's good universities leaving the NUS after the election of an anti-semite leader.

    Both you and the Guardian refer to her as "black" and she previously headed a "black students" group. She appears to be a standard-issue Algerian muslim however. Is it normal in the UK to call North Africans "black" or does she have some recent Sub-Saharan ancestry?

    where white students are losing influence as demographics change
     
    It is not so much the decline of white students as the rise of Muslim students. Mexicans and Chinese don't care about BDS, but I'm sure white Muslims do.

    For what it is worth in some pictures she has the same frizzy hair as fashionista Rachael Doležal.

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  104. @Anonymous
    Since white gentiles are the solid majority of the country at about approx. 65% of the population why do you want to encourage the newspaper of record to rally the majority people against minority opponents? (White gentiles who are leftists are not anti-gentiles, they are self-hating.)

    The only people who can be anti-gentiles are minorities. Why do you want to fire up the majority against those minorities? Do you not understand the policy reasons for suppressing majority unity expressed in racial animus against others? Or more likely do you just not care?

    Since white gentiles are the solid majority of the country at about approx. 65% of the population why do you want to encourage the newspaper of record to rally the majority people against minority opponents?

    Because, thanks to people like you who say that Whites may not exercise any political power, Whites exercise no political power. We are functionally a 0% minority.

    The only people who can be anti-gentiles are minorities. Why do you want to fire up the majority against those minorities? Do you not understand the policy reasons for suppressing majority unity expressed in racial animus against others? Or more likely do you just not care?

    Oh, I understand the reasons, and I care.

    The “policy reasons for suppressing majority unity expressed in racial animus against others” — i.e., the enslavement and/or genocide of the White race — are profoundly evil.

    More generally, a policy of hamstringing the majority is profoundly evil no matter who the majority is. The solution to the problem of a minority is separation and autonomy. You have to be a misanthrope to do things your way.

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    Care to explain why the white race in your opinion is facing enslavement?
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  105. @Anonym
    Think about the mindset you’d have doing these rituals year after year. Jews despise Gentiles and don’t mind ripping them off and cheating them.

    Religions are a double-edged sword. They have the power to unify and motivate people. At the same time, they have a certain inflexibility to them that leads to the same mistakes being repeated ad infinitum.

    The chutzpah of Jews to try something unimaginably ballsy is a strength and also a weakness. Some ideas are dumb, in the long-run counterproductive, and shouldn't be tried. PC is one of them. Marxism probably another. My guess is that this tendency to overreach has probably been at the root of a lot of pogroms throughout the centuries. It is dangerous to keep pushing people who by nature, tend to bottle their anger.

    The war-making focus of Muslims is both a strength for them and a weakness. In the era of very slow progress of war technology, it was a strength for them. In an era where technology plays such a large part, the focus on war as opposed to economy and science is a weakness. Also a weakness is the urge to attack and strike terror rather than bide their time and wait until they have demographic superiority.

    Christians have their weaknesses too. The urge to proselytize to non-whites is a huge weakness. There are others of course.

    The chutzpah of Jews to try something unimaginably ballsy is a strength and also a weakness. Some ideas are dumb, in the long-run counterproductive, and shouldn’t be tried. PC is one of them. Marxism probably another. My guess is that this tendency to overreach has probably been at the root of a lot of pogroms throughout the centuries. It is dangerous to keep pushing people who by nature, tend to bottle their anger.

    But at the same time, it’s possible and tempting to keep pushing people who, by nature, tend to bottle their anger,

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  106. @SFG
    It's purposely ambiguous--the implication is that if you don't identify strongly enough with Jewish interests, you must hate Jews and, therefore, yourself. Sort of the equivalent of an 'Uncle Tom'.

    I always wonder why somebody doesn't reply, "I don't hate *myself*, I hate you guys..."

    Truth be told quite a few guys like Gilad Atzmon probably have issues with their relatives; I imagine most people annoyed at their ethnic group just keep their mouths shut and drift away from the tribe.

    It’s purposely ambiguous–the implication is that if you don’t identify strongly enough with Jewish interests, you must hate Jews and, therefore, yourself. Sort of the equivalent of an ‘Uncle Tom’.

    I always wonder why somebody doesn’t reply, “I don’t hate *myself*, I hate you guys…”

    It’s not the personal self; it’s the communal or group self that a self-hating Jew supposedly hates.

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  107. @Lot
    I don't see white guilt and jewish guilt as opposed.

    White guilt can be a sense of guilt over the real or imagined crimes against minorities of one's ancestors.

    More commonly I think it is a sense that racial differences exist and being born white was a stroke of luck without doing anything in particular to merit one's superiority. That's why white guilt is only really found in the top quarter or so of the socioeconomic spectrum.

    Jewish guilt deals with a feeling of displeasing or failing one's parents or grandparents. That could mean failing to spread their genes after all the effort they put into raising you. It could just as much mean failing at school or work, or some other way of letting your family down.

    White guilt can be a sense of guilt over the real or imagined crimes against minorities of one’s ancestors.

    Indians and Blacks weren’t “minorities” in general. In some times and places, yes; in others, no.

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  108. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Steve,

    You’re using “Anti-Gentilism” as a dysphemism for universalism and globalist trends. (Businesses do business globally, so they have an obligation to their shareholders to be kind to all humans of all histories.)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysphemism

    While you’re busy driving away allies, you’re being routed by Merkel, Trudeau, Corbyn, Clooney, etc. They literally ensured in a single year a future Muslim majority in Europe and you can’t stop talking about JSVLN: “Jews who have the Same Views as their Liberal Neighbors.”

    You tie people’s hands, and force them to never publicly comment on issues that go against the reigning cultural marxism. That is, you don’t oppose bias and terrorism, so you hand a victory to the people who do oppose bias and terrorism, like Trudeau and Bill Gates.

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  109. @ben tillman

    Since white gentiles are the solid majority of the country at about approx. 65% of the population why do you want to encourage the newspaper of record to rally the majority people against minority opponents?
     
    Because, thanks to people like you who say that Whites may not exercise any political power, Whites exercise no political power. We are functionally a 0% minority.

    The only people who can be anti-gentiles are minorities. Why do you want to fire up the majority against those minorities? Do you not understand the policy reasons for suppressing majority unity expressed in racial animus against others? Or more likely do you just not care?
     
    Oh, I understand the reasons, and I care.

    The "policy reasons for suppressing majority unity expressed in racial animus against others" -- i.e., the enslavement and/or genocide of the White race -- are profoundly evil.

    More generally, a policy of hamstringing the majority is profoundly evil no matter who the majority is. The solution to the problem of a minority is separation and autonomy. You have to be a misanthrope to do things your way.

    Care to explain why the white race in your opinion is facing enslavement?

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  110. @Lot
    Interesting article. I'm glad to see all of the UK's good universities leaving the NUS after the election of an anti-semite leader.

    Both you and the Guardian refer to her as "black" and she previously headed a "black students" group. She appears to be a standard-issue Algerian muslim however. Is it normal in the UK to call North Africans "black" or does she have some recent Sub-Saharan ancestry?

    where white students are losing influence as demographics change
     
    It is not so much the decline of white students as the rise of Muslim students. Mexicans and Chinese don't care about BDS, but I'm sure white Muslims do.

    “Black” is basically a coalition 0f colour against the “pale and stale”.

    The NUS Black Students’ campaign represents the largest constituency of Black students in Europe and students of African, Asian, Arab and Caribbean descent, at a local and national level on all issues affecting Black students.

    The campaign focuses on equality in education, black representation, anti-racism and anti-facism (sic) and international peace and justice.

    I don’t think I’ve really seen Chinese or other North East Asians in any of these proceedings, it’s largely Arabs, blacks and Pakistanis wanting to “deconstruct” all things white and shouting the usual lines that white people have always been oppressors and never the oppressed.

    Interesting since Arabs colonised half of Europe, enslaved over a million Europeans, enslaved blacks for far longer and more cruelly than white people did and it’s still going on today. But there’s no Hollywood to incite hatred towards any groups other than white people.

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  111. […] when was the last time the nyt mentioned anti-gentilism […]

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  112. […] WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THE NYT MENTIONED ANTI-GENTILISM […]

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