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From the Daily Mail:

Florida man faked a pro-Trump KKK hate crime, set his ex’s car on fire, and then staged his own kidnapping in ransom note covered with his blood

Vincent Palmer III, 27, set his ex-girlfriend Stacie Winn’s car on fire over the weekend after throwing a brick through the window

He also left a note for her and their four children, who are all under the age of five, which had the words ‘KKK’ and ‘Trump’ written on it

‘I HAVE WATHED [ sic ] YOU FOR A LONG TIME YOU AND YOUR N***** KIDS DON’T Belong,’ read the note left at her Ormond Beach, Florida home

Palmer then fled but returned when Winn called him to reveal what happened, at which point he was arrested on a warrant for failure to pay child support

He was released on Sunday at which point he faked how own kidnapping, again implying it was the work of the KKK

Police located him by pinging his telephone and tracing it to a nearby Burger King, at which point he confessed to setting the fire and leaving the note

Seriously, how much damage could a smart, realistic sociopath do when even losers like Crystal Mangum and Tawana Brawley can become national celebrities with their absurd stories? Who has been the most personally formidable hate hoaxer? Jackie Coakley? That’s a pretty low bar.

 
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  1. “Who has been the most personally formidable hate hoaxer?”

    We’ll never know. The hoaxers who had been caught are, by necessity, an unimpressive bunch.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @inertial


    “Who has been the most personally formidable hate hoaxer?”

    We’ll never know. The hoaxers who had been caught are, by necessity, an unimpressive bunch.
     
    That didn't occur to me, but you are right.
  2. iSteve, Crystal Magnum was both the Champagne and the contraceptive/STD prophylactic used by the infamous Duke U. rape hoaxer/murderess, Crystal Mangum. Heh. };^D Man Gum: for the bro who never bites off more than he can chew.

  3. Hate hoaxers all suffer from mental illness. The Democratic Party is the party of the mentally ill people.

    The scene in Scarface where Al Pacino is asked if he has ever been in a mental institution and he responds yeah on the boat coming over here. You could easily replace the Mariel boatlift with The Democratic Party Convention, or a Democratic Party rally, or a Black Lies Matter rally.

  4. Sounds like this guy is ripe for the Chicago PD, which is now hiring for minor criminal offenses …… I did not realize the white population of Chi town was down to 32% ……

    https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20161215/bridgeport/allow-chicagoans-with-minor-arrest-records-apply-be-cops-aldermen-say

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @SPMoore8

    "Sounds like this guy is ripe for the Chicago PD, which is now hiring for minor criminal offenses …… I did not realize the white population of Chi town was down to 32%"

    Did you think Chicago was a majority White city. You have been watching too much Bob Newhart and John Hughes films (Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Sixteen Candles, Uncle Buck, Home Alone, The Breakfast Club, etc).

    Replies: @Eric Novak

  5. Race arsonist.

  6. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    KKK is virtually non-existent, but media have screamed KKK forever.

    So, it’s so easy to spot HH’s. Someone cries KKK, we know he’s playing according to Narrative than telling the truth.

    It’s the KKK fairy that done it.

    Hate Hysteria makes spotting Hate-Hoaxes so easy.

    It’s now like people screaming ‘witch’.

    KKKitch-hunting. It’s also KKKitsch.

    If the guy had been more up-to-date, he would have blamed the RussKKKies.

    “Some dude with white hood over his head talking Russian and swilling vodka and pulling a bear on a leash, shoo, he done burn down my crib.”

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anon

    Well, the Oberlin ghost incident sure was enlightening.

    Broski

    , @Jefferson
    @Anon

    "KKK is virtually non-existent, but media have screamed KKK forever."

    The number of real Non FBI agent Klansmen in The U.S is a lot smaller than the number of people enrolled in your average 2 year community college on any given semester.

    Replies: @E. Rekshun

  7. Florida man faked a pro-Trump KKK hate crime, set his ex’s car on fire, and then staged his own kidnapping in ransom note covered with his blood

    When the Democrats Send Their Hate Hoaxers, They’re Not Sending Their Best

    No kidding…who abducts a run of the mill jungle bunny for ransom? I’d give you no more then 20 bucks for him. I’m sure his trailer trash ex would give you even less.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @J1234

    No kidding…who abducts a run of the mill jungle bunny for ransom? I’d give you no more then 20 bucks for him. I’m sure his trailer trash ex would give you even less."

    I agree who the hell would kidnap a broke ass N Word for ransom. The only thing he would be able to give you is his EBT card.

  8. @SPMoore8
    Sounds like this guy is ripe for the Chicago PD, which is now hiring for minor criminal offenses ...... I did not realize the white population of Chi town was down to 32% ......

    https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20161215/bridgeport/allow-chicagoans-with-minor-arrest-records-apply-be-cops-aldermen-say

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Sounds like this guy is ripe for the Chicago PD, which is now hiring for minor criminal offenses …… I did not realize the white population of Chi town was down to 32%”

    Did you think Chicago was a majority White city. You have been watching too much Bob Newhart and John Hughes films (Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, Sixteen Candles, Uncle Buck, Home Alone, The Breakfast Club, etc).

    • Replies: @Eric Novak
    @Jefferson

    With the exception of the scenes filmed in downtown Chicago, the settings for John Hughes' movies were the white North Shore suburbs of Chicago, which still are white. The city's white population dropped below 50% with either the 1970 or 1980 census and has reached a point of stability at 1/3 of the population.

  9. Check out on Google’s main page what ” the world searched for in 2016 ” in the video they show Hilary and Bernie at rallies, but the only image of Trump is him shaking hands with Obama at the White House, and there is an image of Obama making a farewell speech as well as the Lin Manuel speech for the last quarter playing over and over, it’s so non-partisan.

    • Replies: @Laugh Track
    @Unladen Swallow

    "Check out on Google’s main page what 'the world searched for in 2016 '"

    What? No Pizzagate?
    I gotta imagine that it was in at least the top 25 search terms, not that they are likely to admit that.

  10. One reason for the popularity of using KKK in these hoaxes is that it’s easy to spell.

  11. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    ‘I HAVE WATHED [ sic ] YOU FOR A LONG TIME YOU AND YOUR N***** KIDS DON’T Belong,’

    Sheeeeeiiiiit!!!

    “He was released on Sunday at which point he faked how own kidnapping, again implying it was the work of the KKK”

    Apparently KKK ran out of trees and rope cuz he survived.

    KKK can’t spell, they can’t kill. What can it do?

    And tying KKK with Trump. Boy, that sure is original.

    I have a suggestion for Progs and blacks to make it a bit more interesting.

    KKK from space. That way, we get KKK and alien abduction.

    Wait a minute, that is new star wars movie. Never mind.

  12. You gotta give this guy some credit, he seems like a real, legitimate mentally retarded villain of the sort that many (most) liberal women DA’s would probably give a break and let off scott free.

    I say FEMA camp for this guy. In a FEMA tent with FEMA rations.

    And you’re right, they’re not sending us their best. I want better than this.

  13. Maybe those Harvard Law students that put the piece of tape on the picture. Nobody saw them do it! They can’t prove a thing!

    Seriously, though, as you’ve said, these things are easy to get away with if you don’t involve the cops.

  14. @Anon
    KKK is virtually non-existent, but media have screamed KKK forever.

    So, it's so easy to spot HH's. Someone cries KKK, we know he's playing according to Narrative than telling the truth.

    It's the KKK fairy that done it.

    Hate Hysteria makes spotting Hate-Hoaxes so easy.

    It's now like people screaming 'witch'.

    KKKitch-hunting. It's also KKKitsch.

    If the guy had been more up-to-date, he would have blamed the RussKKKies.

    "Some dude with white hood over his head talking Russian and swilling vodka and pulling a bear on a leash, shoo, he done burn down my crib."

    Replies: @Anon, @Jefferson

    Well, the Oberlin ghost incident sure was enlightening.

    Broski

  15. @Anon
    KKK is virtually non-existent, but media have screamed KKK forever.

    So, it's so easy to spot HH's. Someone cries KKK, we know he's playing according to Narrative than telling the truth.

    It's the KKK fairy that done it.

    Hate Hysteria makes spotting Hate-Hoaxes so easy.

    It's now like people screaming 'witch'.

    KKKitch-hunting. It's also KKKitsch.

    If the guy had been more up-to-date, he would have blamed the RussKKKies.

    "Some dude with white hood over his head talking Russian and swilling vodka and pulling a bear on a leash, shoo, he done burn down my crib."

    Replies: @Anon, @Jefferson

    “KKK is virtually non-existent, but media have screamed KKK forever.”

    The number of real Non FBI agent Klansmen in The U.S is a lot smaller than the number of people enrolled in your average 2 year community college on any given semester.

    • Replies: @E. Rekshun
    @Jefferson

    The number of real Non FBI agent Klansmen in The U.S is a lot smaller than the number of people enrolled in your average 2 year community college on any given semester.

    Same thing with "Biker Gangs" except they're all undercover ATF agents.

    These guys make a 25-year career out of running around trying to entrap and record half-drunk, high school dropouts into boasting about something that's never going to happen.

  16. Until People of Color come up with better hoaxers they are not going to be respected!

  17. @J1234

    Florida man faked a pro-Trump KKK hate crime, set his ex’s car on fire, and then staged his own kidnapping in ransom note covered with his blood
     

    When the Democrats Send Their Hate Hoaxers, They're Not Sending Their Best
     

    No kidding...who abducts a run of the mill jungle bunny for ransom? I'd give you no more then 20 bucks for him. I'm sure his trailer trash ex would give you even less.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    No kidding…who abducts a run of the mill jungle bunny for ransom? I’d give you no more then 20 bucks for him. I’m sure his trailer trash ex would give you even less.”

    I agree who the hell would kidnap a broke ass N Word for ransom. The only thing he would be able to give you is his EBT card.

  18. That Google is not playing nice is a big tell. They bet it all on Hillary and now Trump can: A. roll back net neutrality; B. cancel the opening to set top boxes Obama’s FCC approved (it was the “Google Proposal”); D. launch anti-trust against Google and argue it be broken up like Standard Oil.

    Rumor has it that Obama will announce tomorrow he’s canceling the Electoral College vote/election due to “Russian Hacking” and will … what rule forever? It would not shock me, any more than Renzi in Italy is apparently still the PM through shadow rule, the new guy is being mocked on Italian TV according to the FT as “wearing a device that will stop my heart if I say something Renzi does not like.”

    Does Google know something? Or are they just stupid?

    The hate hoaxing just leaves me with the default view that the violence is all directed towards Whites. Nothing else.

    • Replies: @BucephalusXYZ
    @Whiskey

    I'll go out on a limb here and predict that Obama will do no such thing. As the first black president and a Nobel laureate to boot, he figures to make a tidy, if not Clintonesque, sum on the lecture circuit. Enough to afford the green fees, at least. But that all goes to hell if there is an actual shooting civil war.

    , @wren
    @Whiskey

    The rumor I read was that he plans to start a cyberwar with Russia the day before he heads off to the golf courses in Hawaii.

  19. I didn’t get the impression that Jackie was even a hoaxer. She seemed like a mentally unstable and deluded person who might even have believed her own story to some extent.

    • Agree: BucephalusXYZ
    • Replies: @Opinionator
    @little spoon

    Was Rolling Stone a hoaxer?

    , @Lot
    @little spoon


    I didn’t get the impression that Jackie was even a hoaxer. She seemed like a mentally unstable and deluded person who might even have believed her own story to some extent.
     
    Being mentally unstable does not mean she was incapable of realizing she was lying and defaming people and wrong to do so.
  20. Nikita Whitlock makes it to the top of “This Week in Hate” by the NYT:

    This Week in Hate

    By THE EDITORIAL BOARD DEC. 13, 2016

    This Week in Hate tracks hate crimes and harassment around the country since the election of Donald Trump. The Southern Poverty Law Center and other groups are keeping detailed counts of harassment and abuse. We will regularly present a selection of incidents to show the scope of the problem.

    • The home in Moonachie, N.J., of Nikita Whitlock, a fullback for the New York Giants, was vandalized last Tuesday night with swastikas, the phrase “KKK” and the word “Trump.” Police are investigating the vandalism as a hate crime.

    • Brandon Marshall, a Denver Broncos linebacker who had knelt during the national anthem at games this season, received a threatening letter full of racial slurs last week. “We are ‘channeling’ a devastating hard hit for you,” the sender wrote. “Something to make you an invalid in a wheel chair.” The security staff of the Broncos is investigating the letter.

    • Last Tuesday and Wednesday, the staff at Cambridge Rindge and Latin School, a public high school in Cambridge, Mass., found three swastikas drawn in boys’ bathrooms.

    • The actor T.J. Miller was arrested on Friday after allegedly hitting an Uber driver in an argument over Donald Trump. Mr. Miller has been critical of Mr. Trump in the past; during an October television appearance, he attempted to burn a Trump-brand tie.

    If you have experienced harassment, these resources may be helpful. If you witness harassment, here are some tips for responding. This Week in Hate is collecting submissions of incidents that have already been reported to law enforcement or in other media outlets. Send submissions to [email protected]. Thanks to those who have already submitted.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/opinion/brandon-marshall-a-broncos-player-gets-a-racist-threatening-letter.html

    I see the $PLC is trying to capitalize off of year end giving.

    By the way, Cambridge, Massachusetts is probably in the top 5 for the most liberal municipality in the country. Trump got about 8% in Cambridge, which is the lowest in the entire state. For comparison, in San Francisco 10% went for Trump. So how many David Duke supporters are there at CRLS, which is Dzhokhar’s alma mater? My guess is less than 1.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Lord Jeff Sessions

    This Week in Hate to be followed by another new feature in the NYT: This Week in Homeless News. Because Hate and Homeless are a result of the election of Trump.

  21. Apparently all the smart, realistic sociopaths are busy working in the media, academia or DC establishment trying to whip up a hysterical anti-White climate of paranoia for fun & profit.

    This is a golden age for moderately intelligent loonies. Only the dumb ones do loser stuff like Coakley et al.

  22. His name didn’t happen to be Benny, did it?

  23. “Who has been the most personally formidable hate hoaxer?”

    I vote for Missouri Student Body President Peyton Head, who said that the KKK was “confirmed” to have been sighted on campus, and successfully pawned it off later as “multiple incorrect sources.”

    http://www.leoaffairs.com/featured/student-leader-got-mizzou-president-fired-caught-lying-kkk-presence-working-police/

    He also claimed, unverifiably, that he had been called the N-word by some non-descript “young people” in a pickup truck:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/09/16/what-the-student-body-president-did-after-he-was-called-the-n-word-again/?utm_term=.6f90af95ca77

    This is to say nothing of how he helped blow up the story about a single poop swastika, which could have been created by a hoaxer, or a bored 12-year-old boy, into a national crisis.

    And for all this, he successfully ruined a formidable university, made a national name for himself as a race hustler/”activist”, and seems to have suffered no negative personal consequences.

    They don’t call them the “Talented Tenth” for nothing.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @MC

    "I vote for Missouri Student Body President Peyton Head,"

    I read that Peyton Head is a Homosexual, which should not be surprising because the Black grievence industry is as Gay as San Francisco's Castro district. It's a disproportionately Homosexual industry.

    The Black Talented Tenth is a lot Gayer than The White Talented Tenth.

    , @ben tillman
    @MC


    He also claimed, unverifiably, that he had been called the N-word by some non-descript “young people” in a pickup truck....
     
    "Hey, n-----, we'll be back to string you up later!" = hate hoax inspired by old Mr. Microphone commercials.
  24. Why are all hate hoaxes a carbon copy of each other? Why is there a total lack of creativity in hate hoaxes? When was the last time a hate hoax did not involve the words KKK and or Donald Trump? These people are so lazy in the creative department, they are creatively bankrupt. I hope none of them have a bachelor’s degree in the arts. Hate hoaxers remind me of the Chinese in that they are good at copying but not good at creating anything new.

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
    @Jefferson

    Be careful what you wish for.

  25. • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    That was a heartwarming video!

    , @wren
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Well, that was disturbing on a number of different levels. Other videos on the page were, unfortunately, equally as bad.

    , @Cryptogenic
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    @3:54 "Welp, I'm out. Cya."

  26. @MC
    "Who has been the most personally formidable hate hoaxer?"

    I vote for Missouri Student Body President Peyton Head, who said that the KKK was "confirmed" to have been sighted on campus, and successfully pawned it off later as "multiple incorrect sources."

    http://www.leoaffairs.com/featured/student-leader-got-mizzou-president-fired-caught-lying-kkk-presence-working-police/

    He also claimed, unverifiably, that he had been called the N-word by some non-descript "young people" in a pickup truck:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/09/16/what-the-student-body-president-did-after-he-was-called-the-n-word-again/?utm_term=.6f90af95ca77

    This is to say nothing of how he helped blow up the story about a single poop swastika, which could have been created by a hoaxer, or a bored 12-year-old boy, into a national crisis.

    And for all this, he successfully ruined a formidable university, made a national name for himself as a race hustler/"activist", and seems to have suffered no negative personal consequences.

    They don't call them the "Talented Tenth" for nothing.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @ben tillman

    “I vote for Missouri Student Body President Peyton Head,”

    I read that Peyton Head is a Homosexual, which should not be surprising because the Black grievence industry is as Gay as San Francisco’s Castro district. It’s a disproportionately Homosexual industry.

    The Black Talented Tenth is a lot Gayer than The White Talented Tenth.

  27. Steve, a “smart, realistic sociopath” doesn’t stage hoaxes, he gets himself employed by a major news organization where he hypes those hoaxes.

  28. @Jefferson
    Why are all hate hoaxes a carbon copy of each other? Why is there a total lack of creativity in hate hoaxes? When was the last time a hate hoax did not involve the words KKK and or Donald Trump? These people are so lazy in the creative department, they are creatively bankrupt. I hope none of them have a bachelor's degree in the arts. Hate hoaxers remind me of the Chinese in that they are good at copying but not good at creating anything new.

    Replies: @AKAHorace

    Be careful what you wish for.

  29. As far as I know, Steve came up with the Megaphone image for the leftwing narrative. I just heard that Van Jones, noted CNN personality, 9/11 Truther, and self-proclaimed Communist, recently founded an organization called Megaphone Strategies. Mission statement:

    Megaphone provides traditional cutting-edge media relations, strategy, and training services to causes doing high-impact work for social justice.

    Megaphone Strategies will work with you to build your story and share it with the media. We help connect the stories that matter to people who want to tell them. We work to connect our clients and spokespeople with the top media outlets and influencers across media platforms.

    Sounds like Van Jones stole the idea from Steve.

    • Replies: @FX Enderby
    @Harry Baldwin

    Van Jones has been reading Sailer for years (and commenting using the handle "Truth"). Where do you think he gets all the straw man arguments he rails against on CNN?

    Replies: @Opinionator

    , @guest
    @Harry Baldwin

    The Megaphone is not the Narrative. The Megaphone is the thing that allows you to make people listen to your Narrative.

    Replies: @Opinionator, @Harry Baldwin

    , @Steve Sailer
    @Harry Baldwin

    I think I got "megaphone" from commenter Svigor.

  30. @Hippopotamusdrome

    Well, that was disturbing on a number of different levels. Other videos on the page were, unfortunately, equally as bad.

  31. @little spoon
    I didn't get the impression that Jackie was even a hoaxer. She seemed like a mentally unstable and deluded person who might even have believed her own story to some extent.

    Replies: @Opinionator, @Lot

    Was Rolling Stone a hoaxer?

  32. @Harry Baldwin
    As far as I know, Steve came up with the Megaphone image for the leftwing narrative. I just heard that Van Jones, noted CNN personality, 9/11 Truther, and self-proclaimed Communist, recently founded an organization called Megaphone Strategies. Mission statement:

    Megaphone provides traditional cutting-edge media relations, strategy, and training services to causes doing high-impact work for social justice.

    Megaphone Strategies will work with you to build your story and share it with the media. We help connect the stories that matter to people who want to tell them. We work to connect our clients and spokespeople with the top media outlets and influencers across media platforms.
     
    Sounds like Van Jones stole the idea from Steve.

    Replies: @FX Enderby, @guest, @Steve Sailer

    Van Jones has been reading Sailer for years (and commenting using the handle “Truth”). Where do you think he gets all the straw man arguments he rails against on CNN?

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    @FX Enderby

    I could believe Van Jones is writing on here as "Truth."

    Replies: @BenKenobi

  33. @Whiskey
    That Google is not playing nice is a big tell. They bet it all on Hillary and now Trump can: A. roll back net neutrality; B. cancel the opening to set top boxes Obama's FCC approved (it was the "Google Proposal"); D. launch anti-trust against Google and argue it be broken up like Standard Oil.

    Rumor has it that Obama will announce tomorrow he's canceling the Electoral College vote/election due to "Russian Hacking" and will ... what rule forever? It would not shock me, any more than Renzi in Italy is apparently still the PM through shadow rule, the new guy is being mocked on Italian TV according to the FT as "wearing a device that will stop my heart if I say something Renzi does not like."

    Does Google know something? Or are they just stupid?

    The hate hoaxing just leaves me with the default view that the violence is all directed towards Whites. Nothing else.

    Replies: @BucephalusXYZ, @wren

    I’ll go out on a limb here and predict that Obama will do no such thing. As the first black president and a Nobel laureate to boot, he figures to make a tidy, if not Clintonesque, sum on the lecture circuit. Enough to afford the green fees, at least. But that all goes to hell if there is an actual shooting civil war.

  34. @inertial
    "Who has been the most personally formidable hate hoaxer?"

    We'll never know. The hoaxers who had been caught are, by necessity, an unimpressive bunch.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    “Who has been the most personally formidable hate hoaxer?”

    We’ll never know. The hoaxers who had been caught are, by necessity, an unimpressive bunch.

    That didn’t occur to me, but you are right.

  35. Think survivorship bias!

    The hate hoaxers we know about are the ones who were exposed as hoaxers. The really effective ones probably looked convincing enough that everyone thinks they were real.

    • Replies: @dc.sunsets
    @NOTA

    This seems parallel to the make-up of the Aryan Nation and such groups that turned out to be almost entirely populated by federal informants.

    It's like a poker, where every game has a patsy. If you show up to a "white supremacist" gathering and you aren't on the FedGov payroll, in all likelihood you're the patsy.

    Probably the ONLY patsy in the room.

    Smarter people simply steer clear of such folly.

  36. @MC
    "Who has been the most personally formidable hate hoaxer?"

    I vote for Missouri Student Body President Peyton Head, who said that the KKK was "confirmed" to have been sighted on campus, and successfully pawned it off later as "multiple incorrect sources."

    http://www.leoaffairs.com/featured/student-leader-got-mizzou-president-fired-caught-lying-kkk-presence-working-police/

    He also claimed, unverifiably, that he had been called the N-word by some non-descript "young people" in a pickup truck:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/09/16/what-the-student-body-president-did-after-he-was-called-the-n-word-again/?utm_term=.6f90af95ca77

    This is to say nothing of how he helped blow up the story about a single poop swastika, which could have been created by a hoaxer, or a bored 12-year-old boy, into a national crisis.

    And for all this, he successfully ruined a formidable university, made a national name for himself as a race hustler/"activist", and seems to have suffered no negative personal consequences.

    They don't call them the "Talented Tenth" for nothing.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @ben tillman

    He also claimed, unverifiably, that he had been called the N-word by some non-descript “young people” in a pickup truck….

    “Hey, n—–, we’ll be back to string you up later!” = hate hoax inspired by old Mr. Microphone commercials.

  37. @Whiskey
    That Google is not playing nice is a big tell. They bet it all on Hillary and now Trump can: A. roll back net neutrality; B. cancel the opening to set top boxes Obama's FCC approved (it was the "Google Proposal"); D. launch anti-trust against Google and argue it be broken up like Standard Oil.

    Rumor has it that Obama will announce tomorrow he's canceling the Electoral College vote/election due to "Russian Hacking" and will ... what rule forever? It would not shock me, any more than Renzi in Italy is apparently still the PM through shadow rule, the new guy is being mocked on Italian TV according to the FT as "wearing a device that will stop my heart if I say something Renzi does not like."

    Does Google know something? Or are they just stupid?

    The hate hoaxing just leaves me with the default view that the violence is all directed towards Whites. Nothing else.

    Replies: @BucephalusXYZ, @wren

    The rumor I read was that he plans to start a cyberwar with Russia the day before he heads off to the golf courses in Hawaii.

  38. @little spoon
    I didn't get the impression that Jackie was even a hoaxer. She seemed like a mentally unstable and deluded person who might even have believed her own story to some extent.

    Replies: @Opinionator, @Lot

    I didn’t get the impression that Jackie was even a hoaxer. She seemed like a mentally unstable and deluded person who might even have believed her own story to some extent.

    Being mentally unstable does not mean she was incapable of realizing she was lying and defaming people and wrong to do so.

  39. Steve appears to be warming up to The Don.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Opinionator

    "Steve appears to be warming up to The Don."

    Corleone, Rickles, or Trump?

  40. @FX Enderby
    @Harry Baldwin

    Van Jones has been reading Sailer for years (and commenting using the handle "Truth"). Where do you think he gets all the straw man arguments he rails against on CNN?

    Replies: @Opinionator

    I could believe Van Jones is writing on here as “Truth.”

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    @Opinionator

    I like to believe the various Anon and Anonymous comments here are left by big names who need to maintain a respectable distance from this Alt-Right hive of scum and villainy.

    For example #11 by Anon up top on this thread could easily be Ann Coulter.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  41. So his hoax stands in large part on hatred of/aggression toward his white mate and assertion that his four mixed race kids “don’t belong”?

    Okey dokey.

    Jeez, the trouble some bros will go to, to avoid/evade caring and paying for the Fruit Of Their Loins.

  42. I bet all hate hoaxers believe the KKK make up a sizable chunk of The U.S population, as in double digit percentage. Hate hoaxers strike me as being extremely uninformed about American demographics. If hate hoaxers knew the KKK make up only 0000000000000.1% of The U.S population, they would find a more realistic boogeyman. The average hate hoaxer probably thinks the KKK make up at least 25 percent of The U.S population.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Jefferson


    The average hate hoaxer probably thinks the KKK make up at least 25 percent of The U.S population.
     
    Just like blacks must make up 25% of the population, gays must make up 25% of the population, et al., due to their overrepresentation in visual media.
  43. The formidable hoaxers are the Sabrina Rubin Erdelys, Jann Wenners, Barack Obamas, and the rest of the media and political elite who transmit these hoaxes for mass consumption. It doesn’t matter if any get found out because enough get through and become the assumed conventional wisdom (e.g., “hands up, don’t shoot;” that there is an epidemic of sexual assault on campuses, etc.) that the damage is done.

    • Agree: NickG
  44. @Harry Baldwin
    As far as I know, Steve came up with the Megaphone image for the leftwing narrative. I just heard that Van Jones, noted CNN personality, 9/11 Truther, and self-proclaimed Communist, recently founded an organization called Megaphone Strategies. Mission statement:

    Megaphone provides traditional cutting-edge media relations, strategy, and training services to causes doing high-impact work for social justice.

    Megaphone Strategies will work with you to build your story and share it with the media. We help connect the stories that matter to people who want to tell them. We work to connect our clients and spokespeople with the top media outlets and influencers across media platforms.
     
    Sounds like Van Jones stole the idea from Steve.

    Replies: @FX Enderby, @guest, @Steve Sailer

    The Megaphone is not the Narrative. The Megaphone is the thing that allows you to make people listen to your Narrative.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    @guest

    The Megaphone is what turns a narrative into The Narrative.

    That's Megaphonics 101.

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @guest

    You're right, I oversimplified that.

  45. “Who has been the most personally formidable hate hoaxer?”

    Rosa Parks?

    • Agree: 27 year old
    • Replies: @27 year old
    @guest

    But Rosa didn't hoax that all by herself. IIRC there was a clever jew who planned the whole thing.

  46. @guest
    @Harry Baldwin

    The Megaphone is not the Narrative. The Megaphone is the thing that allows you to make people listen to your Narrative.

    Replies: @Opinionator, @Harry Baldwin

    The Megaphone is what turns a narrative into The Narrative.

    That’s Megaphonics 101.

  47. @Opinionator
    Steve appears to be warming up to The Don.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Steve appears to be warming up to The Don.”

    Corleone, Rickles, or Trump?

  48. The next Captain America sequel should have him going to war with the KKK, as the KKK seems to be the biggest boogeyman on the Left right now. Or they should save the KKK storyline for the new Marvel’s Black Panther movie.

  49. @Jefferson
    @Anon

    "KKK is virtually non-existent, but media have screamed KKK forever."

    The number of real Non FBI agent Klansmen in The U.S is a lot smaller than the number of people enrolled in your average 2 year community college on any given semester.

    Replies: @E. Rekshun

    The number of real Non FBI agent Klansmen in The U.S is a lot smaller than the number of people enrolled in your average 2 year community college on any given semester.

    Same thing with “Biker Gangs” except they’re all undercover ATF agents.

    These guys make a 25-year career out of running around trying to entrap and record half-drunk, high school dropouts into boasting about something that’s never going to happen.

  50. @Harry Baldwin
    As far as I know, Steve came up with the Megaphone image for the leftwing narrative. I just heard that Van Jones, noted CNN personality, 9/11 Truther, and self-proclaimed Communist, recently founded an organization called Megaphone Strategies. Mission statement:

    Megaphone provides traditional cutting-edge media relations, strategy, and training services to causes doing high-impact work for social justice.

    Megaphone Strategies will work with you to build your story and share it with the media. We help connect the stories that matter to people who want to tell them. We work to connect our clients and spokespeople with the top media outlets and influencers across media platforms.
     
    Sounds like Van Jones stole the idea from Steve.

    Replies: @FX Enderby, @guest, @Steve Sailer

    I think I got “megaphone” from commenter Svigor.

  51. @guest
    "Who has been the most personally formidable hate hoaxer?"

    Rosa Parks?

    Replies: @27 year old

    But Rosa didn’t hoax that all by herself. IIRC there was a clever jew who planned the whole thing.

  52. As an American I feel insulted by the low quality of most recent hate hoaxes. This one was so inept I saw through it before Steve posted it. When I saw it a few days ago. We need more highIQ illegals, Muslim refugees and immigrants to come here, who can take over the hate hoax biz and execute on an outstanding level. Where there is some media generated rage against BadTrumpWhites for a few days and weeks.

  53. Not sure if they are the most successful hate hoaxers; but the longest running would be Senators McCain and Graham.

  54. @guest
    @Harry Baldwin

    The Megaphone is not the Narrative. The Megaphone is the thing that allows you to make people listen to your Narrative.

    Replies: @Opinionator, @Harry Baldwin

    You’re right, I oversimplified that.

  55. A very special recent hate hoax was the letter sent to several mosques. I’ve reproduced it below so you can see what all the fuss is about. Most of the articles about this letter don’t show a scanned version of the original note.

    The best part is the phrase “cleanse America and make it shine again.” I assume they meant MAGA, but it’s hard for me not to imagine Ajay Naidu (Office Space, Bad Santa) yelling it. And there are even more peculiar phrases (the very intentional double hyphen in the hand-written note, “Long live President Trump,” “Your fathers are dogs,” mixed in with generically folksy phrases like “There’s a new sheriff in town,” and “get out of Dodge.”)

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/12/02/wayland-mosque-receives-hate-letter-that-mentions-president-elect-donald-trump/Fw8KFQhMgkliZdv4eL1G2N/story.html

    The letter reads:

    To the Children of Satan,

    You muslims are a vile and filthy people. Your mothers are whores and your fathers are dogs. You are evil. You worship the devil. But your day of reckoning has arrived.
    There’s a new sheriff in town–President Donald Trump. He’s going to cleanse America and make is shine again. And, he’s going to start with you muslims. He’s going to do to you muslims what Hitler did to the jews. You muslims would be wise to pack your bags and get out of Dodge.
    This is a great time for Patriotic Americans. Long live President Trump and God bless the USA.

    Americans for a Better Way

  56. @Unladen Swallow
    Check out on Google's main page what " the world searched for in 2016 " in the video they show Hilary and Bernie at rallies, but the only image of Trump is him shaking hands with Obama at the White House, and there is an image of Obama making a farewell speech as well as the Lin Manuel speech for the last quarter playing over and over, it's so non-partisan.

    Replies: @Laugh Track

    “Check out on Google’s main page what ‘the world searched for in 2016 ‘”

    What? No Pizzagate?
    I gotta imagine that it was in at least the top 25 search terms, not that they are likely to admit that.

  57. Well, I found a real one. It had sounded a bit fishy to me…an interracial couple found their rental property vandalized and with ‘white power’ and swastikas sprayed on the walls. They launched a ‘go fund me’ site and raked in some good cash from virtue signalers. Well, it turned out that they had a landlord-tenant dispute that triggered the incident, so the story is a bit more complicated than just ‘hate’. But the tenant/vandal had a prior conviction for ‘hate’ graffiti on a church, so it pretty much is a ‘hate’ crime.

    http://www.wlwt.com/article/mcdonald-s-delivery-coming-to-select-cities/8505087

  58. How much damage could such a dangerous sociopath do? We came close to finding out.

  59. Well even though it is a hoax, that doesn’t mean we can’t use it as a teachable moment or have a candlelight vigil.

  60. @Lord Jeff Sessions
    Nikita Whitlock makes it to the top of "This Week in Hate" by the NYT:

    This Week in Hate

    By THE EDITORIAL BOARD DEC. 13, 2016

    This Week in Hate tracks hate crimes and harassment around the country since the election of Donald Trump. The Southern Poverty Law Center and other groups are keeping detailed counts of harassment and abuse. We will regularly present a selection of incidents to show the scope of the problem.

    • The home in Moonachie, N.J., of Nikita Whitlock, a fullback for the New York Giants, was vandalized last Tuesday night with swastikas, the phrase “KKK” and the word “Trump.” Police are investigating the vandalism as a hate crime.

    • Brandon Marshall, a Denver Broncos linebacker who had knelt during the national anthem at games this season, received a threatening letter full of racial slurs last week. “We are ‘channeling’ a devastating hard hit for you,” the sender wrote. “Something to make you an invalid in a wheel chair.” The security staff of the Broncos is investigating the letter.

    ...

    • Last Tuesday and Wednesday, the staff at Cambridge Rindge and Latin School, a public high school in Cambridge, Mass., found three swastikas drawn in boys’ bathrooms.

    ...

    • The actor T.J. Miller was arrested on Friday after allegedly hitting an Uber driver in an argument over Donald Trump. Mr. Miller has been critical of Mr. Trump in the past; during an October television appearance, he attempted to burn a Trump-brand tie.

    ...

    If you have experienced harassment, these resources may be helpful. If you witness harassment, here are some tips for responding. This Week in Hate is collecting submissions of incidents that have already been reported to law enforcement or in other media outlets. Send submissions to [email protected]. Thanks to those who have already submitted.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/opinion/brandon-marshall-a-broncos-player-gets-a-racist-threatening-letter.html
     

    I see the $PLC is trying to capitalize off of year end giving.

    By the way, Cambridge, Massachusetts is probably in the top 5 for the most liberal municipality in the country. Trump got about 8% in Cambridge, which is the lowest in the entire state. For comparison, in San Francisco 10% went for Trump. So how many David Duke supporters are there at CRLS, which is Dzhokhar's alma mater? My guess is less than 1.

    Replies: @Forbes

    This Week in Hate to be followed by another new feature in the NYT: This Week in Homeless News. Because Hate and Homeless are a result of the election of Trump.

  61. Yet the leftists in the media keep coming back to this like a dog and its vomit.

    That’s a nice visual, BTW, for leftists and their hoaxers.

  62. @Jefferson
    I bet all hate hoaxers believe the KKK make up a sizable chunk of The U.S population, as in double digit percentage. Hate hoaxers strike me as being extremely uninformed about American demographics. If hate hoaxers knew the KKK make up only 0000000000000.1% of The U.S population, they would find a more realistic boogeyman. The average hate hoaxer probably thinks the KKK make up at least 25 percent of The U.S population.

    Replies: @Forbes

    The average hate hoaxer probably thinks the KKK make up at least 25 percent of The U.S population.

    Just like blacks must make up 25% of the population, gays must make up 25% of the population, et al., due to their overrepresentation in visual media.

  63. @NOTA
    Think survivorship bias!

    The hate hoaxers we know about are the ones who were exposed as hoaxers. The really effective ones probably looked convincing enough that everyone thinks they were real.

    Replies: @dc.sunsets

    This seems parallel to the make-up of the Aryan Nation and such groups that turned out to be almost entirely populated by federal informants.

    It’s like a poker, where every game has a patsy. If you show up to a “white supremacist” gathering and you aren’t on the FedGov payroll, in all likelihood you’re the patsy.

    Probably the ONLY patsy in the room.

    Smarter people simply steer clear of such folly.

  64. @Opinionator
    @FX Enderby

    I could believe Van Jones is writing on here as "Truth."

    Replies: @BenKenobi

    I like to believe the various Anon and Anonymous comments here are left by big names who need to maintain a respectable distance from this Alt-Right hive of scum and villainy.

    For example #11 by Anon up top on this thread could easily be Ann Coulter.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @BenKenobi


    For example #11 by Anon up top on this thread could easily be Ann Coulter.
     
    As she's an old maid, perhaps she should be "Anun".
  65. Muslims are desperately trying to get into the act, but they aren’t very good at it. It’s hard to find a Muslim these days who hasn’t been the victim of a hate crime. The liberals are desperate to believe all of them and one day to find a real one to rant about for a couple of weeks. There out there , just keep looking.

  66. A subcategory of Darwin Awards will be needed to chronicle the more creative of these Hate Hoaxes. They may start to become even more absurdly implausible particularly in areas where white crime is virtually nonexistent, as is the case in huge parts of Chicago, Milwaukee, & St Louis.

  67. Vincent III? Suggests a family tradition of legitimacy, doesn’t it?

    I suspect most hate hoaxers aren’t so much stupid as crazy. Untethered in some way.

  68. @BenKenobi
    @Opinionator

    I like to believe the various Anon and Anonymous comments here are left by big names who need to maintain a respectable distance from this Alt-Right hive of scum and villainy.

    For example #11 by Anon up top on this thread could easily be Ann Coulter.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    For example #11 by Anon up top on this thread could easily be Ann Coulter.

    As she’s an old maid, perhaps she should be “Anun”.

  69. @Jefferson
    @SPMoore8

    "Sounds like this guy is ripe for the Chicago PD, which is now hiring for minor criminal offenses …… I did not realize the white population of Chi town was down to 32%"

    Did you think Chicago was a majority White city. You have been watching too much Bob Newhart and John Hughes films (Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Sixteen Candles, Uncle Buck, Home Alone, The Breakfast Club, etc).

    Replies: @Eric Novak

    With the exception of the scenes filmed in downtown Chicago, the settings for John Hughes’ movies were the white North Shore suburbs of Chicago, which still are white. The city’s white population dropped below 50% with either the 1970 or 1980 census and has reached a point of stability at 1/3 of the population.

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