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One reason Donald Trump won the election is the increasingly gratuitous usage among white elites of the word “white” as an insult. For example, in the New York Times today, Jennifer Senior approvingly quotes Hillary Clinton’s new book:

Hillary Clinton Opens Up About ‘What Happened,’ With Candor, Defiance and Dark Humor

By JENNIFER SENIOR SEPT. 12, 2017

… “[Trump] doesn’t just like Putin,” she writes. “He seems to want to be like Putin, a white authoritarian leader who could put down dissenters, repress minorities, disenfranchise voters, weaken the press, and amass untold billions for himself.”

Mugabe may be “authoritarian,” but at least he’s not “white authoritarian.”

Why exactly did Hillary insert “white” before “authoritarian” in that sentence? Apparently, Hillary perceives “white authoritarian” to be a worse insult than just plain “authoritarian.”

I guess these days “white” is understood to be a negative intensifier, meaning “very bad.” In the past, readers would have understood “authoritarian” to be bad, but “white” to be neutral. So until recently “white authoritarian” would have been confusing. But now, Hillary’s audience knows that “white” makes “authoritarian” worse, much worse.

In the future, instead of accusing Trump of being a “white authoritarian,” Hillary will accuse the President of being an “authoritarian white.” And, then, he’ll just be accused of being “white,” enough said.

But is it any surprise then that not enough white people voted for Hillary to make her President?

P.S. If I order a Mugabe Jacket, should it have my face on it or Bob’s?

 
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  1. • Replies: @Broski
    The dynamic underlying this chart is human labor being replaced by machines. That, along with global Europa realizing that diversity sucks, will drive History (in the Fukuyama sense) during the 21st century.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Damn, I hate graphs with y-values other than zero at the bottom! I have to mentally figure where the real x-axis is and then scale off in my head how the curves really relate. I know it's not your graph, eah, but that is no way to make a graph.

    If the BLS or whoever has a point to make, then they should blow up the important part of the curves on another graph, but show the BIG PICTURE first, or they're being duplicitous (sometimes, it's just because the maker of the graph just lets excel or whatever make the axes and is too dumb or lazy to set them right. Oh, US Feral Government. But, of course!)

    OK, enough, and, no, I am not Rantly McTirade's twin brother, but that's one hell of a great handle!
    , @Neoconned
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/451247/steve-bannon-wrong-george-w-bush-foreign-policy-kept-america-safe-post-911

    THIS IS WHY BANNON WAS LET GO.

    Yeah Ivanka, etc probably had something to do with the technicals but thing about it -- it was the nasty bloodthirsty chickenhawk neocon SCUM who did it. And their freak show assortment of hangers-on, crony capitalist welfare bums, etc who all leaned REAL heavy on Trump and his various "generals" advisers to cut Bannon loose.

    Think about it for a second.

    War is bad for us but great for military contractors. What would Boeing/Halliburton/Raytheon, etc have done if Trump actually started de-escalating the ME and let those people to their own devices and their own natural habits without us being globocop?

    Not many know but the military budget/DoD budget went UP under Obama EVERY SINGLE YEAR of his administration save 2012 or 2013. And in the year it didn't go up -- it didn't go up because Obama wanted it to go up but wanted to pay for it with a TAX INCREASE -- you know -- like how we used to pay for wars with war taxes. But the anarchist-libertarian nutjobs in the GOP tea party movement wanted war financed on the money printer credit card instead. So boom we got a slight cut in the Pentagon budget for a single year.

    To understand the power and influence of this constituency, in 2009 during the dark bowels of the Bush downtown recession EVERYBODY was getting cut. Businesses, etc.

    Guess who didn't? That's right -- the Pentagon had a I believe I recall a 3% budget hike. Thinking back, it may have been more. Like 4-5%. So while everybody else was getting fucked, they were getting stuffed with free cash.

    As I've found out the hard way over the last few years -- NO MATTER WHAT IN OUR SYSTEM -- somebody loses, and somebody wins, "just a matter of who(m)."

    Think about it -- all those military industrial shareholders, industrial trade bodies, to a lesser extent unions, etc -- they all stand to lose TRILLIONS in free USA govt money financed via you and me. Because like the black welfare queen smoking crack in her Section 8 shithole shanty trailer or crackden apartment complex -- what will these corporate welfare types do if the govt teet is suddenly cut off? My God -- they'd have to go out and do what the rest of us suckers do -- WORK for our money and our living with our hands or brains and a combination there of. And that requires EFFORT and more importantly WORK -- and who the fuck wants to do an icky thing like that?

    I should know -- every Sat & Sun mornings I wake up at 4 am and walk a mile to my fast food job where I use bleach to scrub fossilized shit and feces off the toilet bowl. Does it suck? Yeah. But if I didn't do this I literally would be BEGGING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WITH A SIGN BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OTHER STINKING JOBS WHERE I LIVE besides being a cop for a lousy $11/hour. And no, I"m not making that up, welcome to the Deep South.

    For that -- I'll stay at my shit $8/hour Mickey D's crap job....

    But think about this -- all those hangers on and welfare bums who make their bread and their cheese off the Pentagon budget doing "contractor work", etc.

    The shame if they actually have to go out and do what I do -- WALK on my 2 feet from one end of town to the other begging people for employment. Work sucks. As it should.

    Not all of us though are dumb enough to see this as a simple left/right argument.

    We need MILITARY TRIALS or in the least FEDERAL murder/treason trials of neocon subversives. These people are SNAKES IN THE GRASS. TRY THEM BEFORE A JURY OF THEIR PEERS and them HANG OR SHOOT THEM DEAD.

    Don't send them to Israel or some far off locale, don't jail them, don't allow them to breathe. They have blood on their hands and Bannon fucked up thinking he could be a gentleman around these people when they've already shown time & again that not only are they bloodthirsty -- but they'll murder civilians to keep their pscyhotic wars and ME graft scam game going.....

    WE NEED TRIALS. RUTHLESSNESS IS OUR ONLY OPTION AT THIS POINT. And please, stop going after minorities or Jews or w/ever. Most minorities are just dumber versions of us. Working proles in the same boat we are in. This is a war against neocon elites. And if we don't start talking blood and trials -- then we will continue to lose with our tail between our legs. Look how Trump got his ass handed to him and now he talks like a gelded cuck.

    The neocons have to BE PURGED and PUT ON TRIAL. No other solution will satiate the country's ills. Every other issue is background noise before then.

    "This threat has receded as Trump has quite wisely ditched his isolationist campaign rhetoric, expanding American military efforts in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, and Afghanistan.

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/451247/steve-bannon-wrong-george-w-bush-foreign-policy-kept-america-safe-post-911""

    So in other words -- Trump was forced over or bought over by the neocons. These people are the single de facto number one threat to the national security and physical and political integrity of our country, money supply, future and vitality. They MUST be brought to justice and purged from the Trump White HOuse.
    , @Neoconned
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/12/artificial-intelligence-face-recognition-michal-kosinski

    Hey Steve, never mind gayface.....seems your iq, political leanings, criminal disposition & other things will soon be recognisable based on ai.....

    Expect insurance companies to compile the data to create profiles on individuals. Surely it will be shared w the cops and spooks. Phillip K Dick will be revealed to be even more of a genius than he already is thought of....
  2. OT: have you heard about the recent LAPD cadet scandal (cadets stealing patrol cars and weapons)?

    Also, have you seen the demographics of the cadets lately? See here.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    This picture is larger: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBapsirUMAAzdhs.jpg:large
    , @bomag
    Pretty uninspiring photo for future policeman; half look overweight.

    Not quite half appear female.

    , @Hibernian
    I'm reminded of a Rodney Dangerfield (R.I.P.) line, "When I was a kid, our neighborhood was so tough that we stole cop cars...[dramatic pause]...with the cops in em'!"
  3. The elites seem completely unaware how grating their usage of “white” is. It shows how deeply trapped they are in their own little bubble.

    • Agree: Desiderius, NickG
    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    I'm old enough to recall the "epistemic closure" meme that was spread after the 2012 defeat. The most disgusting thing the left did in 2012 was the "White People mourning Romney" Tumblrism. Their reveling in open anti-white racism (thinking an amnesty and permanent one party rule was right around the corner). That's what sent me out of mainstream WF Buckley conservatism, and into White Identity Politics.
    , @Cagey Beast
    We get a window into their world via YouTube videos of the conferences and luncheons they post without thought as to how they appear to others. It's a team-building gesture and ice-breaker to make a few little jokes at the expense of those benighted White people who lack the money or connections to be there with them. "The absent are always wrong" or "those absent are never without fault while those present are never without excuses" as the sayings go.
    , @Pat Boyle
    I think all this naked hatred against whites is a big mistake for blacks. East Asians with some justice feel they are equal or superior so you don't get much contempt for white accomplishment from them. Hispanics want the goose that lays those golden eggs so they too are circumspect. But Americans blacks no longer bother too conceal their desire to slaughter all whites.

    Let's face it blacks have not worked out in America. Lincoln, Jefferson and Washington never could believe that blacks could ever be social equals to whites. As it turns out - they were right.

    Since the sixties America has embraced a kind of optimism about prospects for racial blending. But all the evidence for the success of racial equality is negative.

    There is a story earlier in this blog thread about America's opioid epidemic. It testifies to the hopelessness that young black men feel. I'm sure its correct. Probably the best way to interpret the black on black shooting that we see in Baltimore, Detroit and Chicago is that it is a new form of suicide - suicide by proxy. The social scientists refuse to believe it but the black kids in the ghetto know the odds against them ever becoming a normal member of society. So they shoot heroin into their arms and shoot their gun at other blacks.

    Meanwhile the white liberals and black militants become increasingly more strident. They have grants and maybe even tenure. They are a long way from the grim realities of street black life. So they indulge in nasty panegyrics against white people. They feel better for this. Most other blacks have no outlet for their frustration. They at least can scream.

    But hating whites is not cost-free. We know that the only people to ever drop an atomic device were white people. We know that the famous Nazi genocide of the Jews was done by white people. So no should doubt that whites can be very nasty indeed. It is in the best long term interest of blacks to cool it - to mollify whites and hope for some answer to emerge. The present course of white liberals and black radicals to spew undiluted hatred at whites looks to me to be another suicide gesture.
  4. @jackson
    OT: have you heard about the recent LAPD cadet scandal (cadets stealing patrol cars and weapons)?

    Also, have you seen the demographics of the cadets lately? See here.

    This picture is larger:

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    It looks like single digits of white cadets.

    That isn't America.

    #Calexit
    , @DcThrowback
    Trust but verify, please provide a link to a piece or something that shows that's legit.

    Some weird things about it:
    1/ that's a monster graduating class
    2/ different uniforms, lapd graduations via google show all cadets in black
    3/ march's graduating class had 30 ppl in it (18 hispanics tho, so....)

    http://www.lapdonline.org/home/news_view/61976
    , @Rod1963
    By the looks there are a lot of fatties in the group. It's clear physical conditioning isn't part of the course work.

    When they hit the streets criminals won't have to worry about foot pursuits.
    , @Currahee
    I don't believe this photo is genuine. Give me proof as to source.
  5. Arguably in this case Hillary is trying to play up the story that Putin is some kind of “white nationalist”. Erdogan is also ethnically/genetically very much a “white” guy but I can’t imagine Hillary calling him a “white authoritarian.”

    The idea that Putin is a committed ethnic nationalist is a useful myth both for the American left and for the weird white nationalist Putin fanboys who seem to believe it as well. The truth is Putin doesn’t give a damn about “white identity”, he is a statist.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is indeed a nationalist, but not a "white nationalist". He is a Russian nationalist. Russians are not all necessarily all that white-there are Asian and Middle Eastern admixtures in much of the Greater Russian population-but VV Putin does not care about that.

    If it's Russian, he's for it. If he thinks it's bad for Russia, he's against it. Very simple.

    He has a simple yardstick. Oh sure, he likes to wield power, and he is no ascetic or monk. He is very wealthy. But if he thinks it's bad for Russia and Russians no amount of money would sway him.

    I think Trump is a decent person in many ways, but Putin is a far more serious, a far more powerful man. I doubt America will ever really have a Putin.

    Damn shame, really.
    , @Declane
    Just out of curiosity I googled the president of Mexico to see how white he looked. He looks as white as the average Italian-American in my neighborhood. It's funny how people talk about Mexicans and racism and all that without ever acknowledging that there are basically two races in Mexico - the ones with a drop of native blood and the ones with a bucket.

    But he is 5'7" so at least he shows his solidarity with his lessers by not reaching his full European height.
    , @Desiderius
    Of a particular state. That's the point. Globalists are worse if you care about America because they want an end to all states.
    , @Cagey Beast
    Putin sees himself as an ethnic Russian running the multi-ethnic Russian Federation. That's the hand Russia has had to play for centuries. Putin and his supporters have wrapped their minds around this and it's of no import whether Stormfront types have managed to do the same. Putin is not an ethnic nationalist in the narrow, nasty 19th and 20th century form. He seems much more like an Austrian in the Austro-Hungarian Empire if that had managed to become a republic. That's probably a better model for Whites going forward anyway.

    Our wise and kind managerial classes have used mass exotic immigration to give us a bunch of quickly thrown together modern versions of the Austro-Hungarian, Ottoman and Russian Empires to live in whether we want it or not. Putin's Russianness may be a good template for American Whiteness.

    , @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere
    Yeah, that claim by Clinton is just mendacious. Or is Ramzan Kadyrov now mobilizing against Putin? Obviously then it would have to be true.
    , @Dr. X

    The idea that Putin is a committed ethnic nationalist is a useful myth both for the American left and for the weird white nationalist Putin fanboys who seem to believe it as well. The truth is Putin doesn’t give a damn about “white identity”, he is a statist.
     
    Yeah, but Putin is a "statist" in a lily-white country. Ergo, Russian nationalism is white Russian nationalism. You don't see him importing Syrians, Turks, Pakistanis and Africans like Merkel and May, do you?
    , @Thea
    He is a Russian nationalist who has invited ethnic Russians back home to get free land in the Far East if they raise a Russian family there. He is a good role model for the type of leader we need but don't have. We don't want him as our leader, we want an definitively American version of Putin. Or Netenyahu.
  6. “When Did “White” Become an All-Purpose Insult?”

    When stupid whites allowed it.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @TheBoom
    Yes, only whites will not only allow their skin color/ethnicity to be used as an insult, many will encourage it.
  7. Might be a slip, she considers authoritarian leaders to be non white, a trait of the less evolved races.

  8. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Peter Akuleyev
    Arguably in this case Hillary is trying to play up the story that Putin is some kind of "white nationalist". Erdogan is also ethnically/genetically very much a "white" guy but I can't imagine Hillary calling him a "white authoritarian."

    The idea that Putin is a committed ethnic nationalist is a useful myth both for the American left and for the weird white nationalist Putin fanboys who seem to believe it as well. The truth is Putin doesn't give a damn about "white identity", he is a statist.

    Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is indeed a nationalist, but not a “white nationalist”. He is a Russian nationalist. Russians are not all necessarily all that white-there are Asian and Middle Eastern admixtures in much of the Greater Russian population-but VV Putin does not care about that.

    If it’s Russian, he’s for it. If he thinks it’s bad for Russia, he’s against it. Very simple.

    He has a simple yardstick. Oh sure, he likes to wield power, and he is no ascetic or monk. He is very wealthy. But if he thinks it’s bad for Russia and Russians no amount of money would sway him.

    I think Trump is a decent person in many ways, but Putin is a far more serious, a far more powerful man. I doubt America will ever really have a Putin.

    Damn shame, really.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Chase
    For the United States to produce a Putin, we will have to go through extreme turmoil, similar to Russia in the 90's. I wouldn't bet against it at some point, but not before much pain and death.
    , @Guy de Champlagne
    Yeah Putin is such a great leader that he's almost gotten Russian life expectancy back up to soviet levels. What a man!
    , @Anatoly Karlin

    Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is indeed a nationalist, but not a “white nationalist”. He is a Russian nationalist.
     
    Putin triangulates between economic and ideological blocs, with nationalists being one of several other influential ones.

    Although he throws a bone - not to mention the occasional kick - to Russian nationalists now and then, that does not make him one himself.
    , @bored identity



    "... I doubt America will ever really have a Putin. "

     

    Who cares?!

    bored would believes that even some ten years from now, President Miller with his young Veep Yair Netanyahu could still reverse Hussein's Pendelum and save our Union- along with the State 51. Area.

    Of course, there will be blood, but...



    “To put things in perspective,” Netanyahu wrote on Facebook, “I’m a Jew, I’m an Israeli, the neo nazis scums [sic] in Virginia hate me and my country.

    But they belong to the past.

    Their breed is dying out.

    “However the thugs of Antifa and [Black Lives Matter] who hate my country (and America too in my view) just as much are getting stronger and stronger and becoming super dominant in American universities and public life.”


    http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-junior-says-leftists-more-dangerous-than-neo-nazis/

     

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/alien-reptile-and-cloaked-figure-in-yair-netanyahus-meme-have-old-new-origins/
    , @Dmitry134564
    Putin sucks in a lot of ways as well - he is a man of late Soviet mentality. Russia is very unprepared for the future peak and decline in oil demand, despite having had the last 17 years of oil bonanza to prepare for it (half-hearted flops like Skolkovo aside).
  9. I don’t think it’s an intensifier. It’s intended to convey that no authoritarian can ever be white in a world she would not protest against having to live in. It’s an apostate Goldwater Girl’s purethink.

  10. Before “white” was an insult, it was “white bread.”

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Before “white” was an insult, it was “white bread.”
     
    The trope lives on! In name-brand form here:

    Slated to play Che Guevara is Constantine Maroulis, a former “American Idol’’ contestant who earned a Tony Award nomination for his performance on Broadway in “Rock of Ages.’’ Maroulis is Greek-American. In a recent Globe interview, Maroulis said he believes concerns about him playing Che are not justified. Saying “I’m not exactly a loaf of Wonder Bread,’’ he cited the discrimination encountered by his grandparents when they immigrated to the United States.
     
    , @songbird
    I recall Welcome Back, Kotter's POC characters using that term a lot. Informally, it seemed to be a bigger hit among Jewish people. Myself, it just made me think: I'm supposed to enjoy a sitcom that insults me? (which is different from one making a funny ethnic joke.)
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Before “white” was an insult, it was “white bread.”
     
    Of course, it was whites, not nonwhites, who led the trend against (literal) white bread.

    The blacks I knew called it "light bread". though. Hmm...
    , @Anonymous
    Ya damned cracker...
  11. Anti-white rhetoric in general seemed to skyrocket around 2012.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
    A magical new era was supposed to bloom once the Mocha One was in the White House as President of Earth. That did not happen and so someone had to be blamed. Tinkerbell died and so some of you little White MFs must not have clapped hard enough.
    , @Joe Sweet
    Yep. Just as Obama was catching his stride.

    I noticed it in 2011 when I was hanging around with a Philosophy adjunct professor who's 7/16 native ancestry, femaleness, Judeophilia, and shameless fag-haggery apparently granted her the privilege to use white as an epithet despite the fact that she looked pretty white and all of her tastes landed squarely in the SWPL category. This must have been fairly early in the explicit white bashing juggernaut because at that time many of her facebook "friends" spoke up in their own defense in reaction to her posts that impugned something as being "so white." I doubt liberal white facebookers stand up for themselves like that these days.

    , @David In TN
    When Obama was reelected in 2012, left-liberals figured it was time (and safe) to drop the mask of affability and give vent to their venomous hatred.
  12. @Peter Akuleyev
    Arguably in this case Hillary is trying to play up the story that Putin is some kind of "white nationalist". Erdogan is also ethnically/genetically very much a "white" guy but I can't imagine Hillary calling him a "white authoritarian."

    The idea that Putin is a committed ethnic nationalist is a useful myth both for the American left and for the weird white nationalist Putin fanboys who seem to believe it as well. The truth is Putin doesn't give a damn about "white identity", he is a statist.

    Just out of curiosity I googled the president of Mexico to see how white he looked. He looks as white as the average Italian-American in my neighborhood. It’s funny how people talk about Mexicans and racism and all that without ever acknowledging that there are basically two races in Mexico – the ones with a drop of native blood and the ones with a bucket.

    But he is 5’7″ so at least he shows his solidarity with his lessers by not reaching his full European height.

    • Replies: @JohnnyD
    Jorge Ramos plays the same game. He has blue eyes and relatively pale skin, but claims to be fighting white supremacy.
    , @AndrewR
    The Mexican elites, who tend to be much whiter than the average Mexican, promote the colonization of the US and interference in its policies. They get to export their surplus population, reduce political pressure on the Mexican government to fix problems in Mexico, get money injected into the economy through remittances and get increased political control of their northern colony.

    It's hard to blame Mexican elites for this. It's a win/win/win for them. And obviously certain Americans benefit from having tens of millions of (relatively) docile, hard-working Mexicans who don't demand high wages. But there are tens of millions of Americams who don't benefit in any way from Mexican colonization yet still support it wholeheartedly. SUPPORT OUR DREAMERS WOOOOOOOO!!!

    , @Frau Katze
    Some fraction of Mexicans (I don't know the figures) are of 100% European descent.
    , @Wency
    Steve coined the term "Conquistador-American" for this phenomenon.

    Part of the implication is that some white Mexican-Americans have managed to claim affirmative action and the right to speak for "oppressed native peoples" while benefiting from a bloodline composed entirely of the oppressors themselves. Win-win!
    , @Anonymous
    Average male height in Spain is about 5'8" or 5'9".
    , @PV van der Byl
    Vicente Fox, Mexican president from 2000 to 2006 is 6'5''. He's mighty white, too.
    , @Avery
    Former President of Mexico Vincente Fox with Spain's Felipe Borbon.
    In the picture, 'Mexican' Fox actually looks slightly whiter than Spaniard de Borbon.
    And Vincente is 6'4".
    Your typical Aztec.

    http://www.gettyimages.in/detail/news-photo/prince-felipe-de-borbon-and-wife-letizia-ortiz-pose-for-a-news-photo/51078436#prince-felipe-de-borbon-and-wife-letizia-ortiz-pose-for-a-picture-picture-id51078436
  13. “White” as an epithet is a function of liberals not believing in truth, yet having to still be convincing to people. When one does not believe in truth, then the only way to be convincing is to make arguments “against interest.” Hillary perceives that being anti-white will endear her to others because she thinks she will be convincing by attacking herself or arguing against her own perceived interest. We’re supposed to be so impressed by these self-criticizing acts, that we immediately fall to our knees to worship these “leaders.”

    I’d be more impressed if these self-criticizers simply offed themselves.

    • Replies: @Dube
    "map," thanks for what seems a fruitful analysis.
  14. Who is her ghostwriter? Presumably she approved that after her 4th pre-5:00 Chardonnay. The only white she appreciates.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    pre-5:00? Man, she gets up early for breakfast.
    , @Pat Boyle
    I have recently discovered an $8.00 Chardonnay that tastes like a $30.00 Chardonnay. But I won't tell you what it is, lest you buy it all up.
    , @Bill Jones
    You don't think she's an aficionado of a White Russian?
  15. @Anonymous
    This picture is larger: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBapsirUMAAzdhs.jpg:large

    It looks like single digits of white cadets.

    That isn’t America.

    #Calexit

    • Replies: @JW Bell
    Those are photos of a high school youth program, http://www.lapdcadets.com
  16. @Peter Akuleyev
    The elites seem completely unaware how grating their usage of "white" is. It shows how deeply trapped they are in their own little bubble.

    I’m old enough to recall the “epistemic closure” meme that was spread after the 2012 defeat. The most disgusting thing the left did in 2012 was the “White People mourning Romney” Tumblrism. Their reveling in open anti-white racism (thinking an amnesty and permanent one party rule was right around the corner). That’s what sent me out of mainstream WF Buckley conservatism, and into White Identity Politics.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    You could say that declaring victory prematurely is a common failure of the Left, but you have to understand that the reason that they do it is that they see themselves as being on "the right side of history" and that so often their declarations of victory succeed in creating facts on the ground.

    This usually works (see gay marriage), and usually they are able to suppress any visible white/traditionalist backlash - anyone who protests at being placed upon the garbage heap of history is declared to be a Nazi and doxxed. Unfortunately for Hillary we still have the secret ballot though I predict that Leftists will go after that soon. Aren't we entitled to know how you voted so we can know not to hire you? Why should fascists be allowed to hide their fascist beliefs behind the curtain of the voting booth?

    , @guest
    St. Trayvon of the Skittles was martyred shortly before the 2012 election. In fact, I'm almost certain that was a national news story because of the election. That's what turned me, along with reading Jared Taylor around the same time.

    The left called forth Nemesis that year, but didn't learn about it until 4 years later

  17. @Lot
    Before "white" was an insult, it was "white bread."

    Before “white” was an insult, it was “white bread.”

    The trope lives on! In name-brand form here:

    Slated to play Che Guevara is Constantine Maroulis, a former “American Idol’’ contestant who earned a Tony Award nomination for his performance on Broadway in “Rock of Ages.’’ Maroulis is Greek-American. In a recent Globe interview, Maroulis said he believes concerns about him playing Che are not justified. Saying “I’m not exactly a loaf of Wonder Bread,’’ he cited the discrimination encountered by his grandparents when they immigrated to the United States.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Guevara was white, an Argentine of Spanish and Irish extraction.

    What the Hell is wrong with these people? This stuff is empirical and uncontroversial; they are literally defying reality.
    , @Joe Sweet
    along those same lines...Here's George Clooney defending his current movie at the SWPL Olympiad known as the Toronto International Film Festival against charges of tone-deaf portrayal of blacks (and other race issues in Hollywood).

    http://www.indiewire.com/2017/09/george-clooney-interview-suburbicon-diversity-hollywood-1201874750/


    “Of course, Charlottesville happens, because every few years Charlottesville happens again,” he said. “We keep forgetting that we haven’t excised that original sin completely. When I was growing up in Kentucky, the civil-rights movement had its big wave and segregation was exorcised from this country. We really felt like we were on this trajectory toward it all being finished. It wasn’t something you thought would be around. It’s a surprise that it’s still a part of our world.”

    As a filmmaker, Clooney said it took years for him to tackle race because he had yet to find the right project. “A lot of people ask me why I haven’t done any movies about Darfur or South Sudan,” he said, recalling his advocacy in the region. “Well, I haven’t found the script that’s right to do it. My personal life and where I go — philanthropic things — have always been toward whatever is inclusive, not exclusive. That’s always been an important part of my life. It’s just hard to find those films.”

    But Clooney added that he would rather see more minority filmmakers work their way into the industry, echoing the rise of Mexican filmmakers in Hollywood over a decade ago —the so-called “Three Amigos” of Alfonso Cuaron, Alejandro Gonzalez Iñarritu, and Guillermo del Toro, whose “The Shape of Water” just won the Golden Lion at the Venice International Film Festival.

    “All these great Mexican filmmakers showed up, it was like, fuck, this is great filmmaking,” Clooney said. “That’s what I’d like to see… some really interesting young filmmakers out there. You want to feel something fresh and new constantly. You want people pushing the limits. There’s a way to make things much cheaper now so there are a lot of different voices out there.”
     

    What a nitwit. He apparently thinks because these three Mexican directors have names similar to the guys who do the yard work at his LA mansion that they look like his gardeners too. There's nothing "minority" about those three amigos unless you are taking the global view and are recognizing that whites are a minority.

    http://www.trbimg.com/img-54e7f3ee/turbine/la-apphoto-fox-s-golden-globe-awards-party1-jpg-20150220/1150/1150x647

  18. @Peter Akuleyev
    Arguably in this case Hillary is trying to play up the story that Putin is some kind of "white nationalist". Erdogan is also ethnically/genetically very much a "white" guy but I can't imagine Hillary calling him a "white authoritarian."

    The idea that Putin is a committed ethnic nationalist is a useful myth both for the American left and for the weird white nationalist Putin fanboys who seem to believe it as well. The truth is Putin doesn't give a damn about "white identity", he is a statist.

    Of a particular state. That’s the point. Globalists are worse if you care about America because they want an end to all states.

  19. Let me try for a “big picture-y” rationale for White as a negative intensifier. Reductio ad Hitlerum.

    The Greatest Generation returns from WWII congratulating itself for having whooped Hitler’s arse. Unable to disinterestedly view Hitler’s early career as a fairly benign and successful architect of national revival and national solidarity, that Greatest Generation itself becomes vulnerable to charges of racial animus and imperial aggrandizement lodged by America’s Left who see their main chance in the Greatest Generation’s complacency, even smugness. Bewildered, the Greatest Generation, ordinary men and women with traditional ties to church and family and country, are ideologically equated with the Hitler they defeated. Hitler, of course, was cheerleader for a political party with a virulent and explicit racialist wing.

    America’s Left saw its opportunity in eliding the difference between most Whites’ cordial but wary relations between Blacks, and the Nazis’ attitude toward disfavored underclasses.

    So White equals negative intensifier . . . because Hitler and Nazis. The chances of some national reevaluation of Hitler and the Nazis, which is what might be needed to end the plague of nasty and unending Leftishness, is probably zip point squat because of its massive unpalatability.

    Morning coffee’s kicking in. Thanks for allowing this comment.

    • Replies: @Langley
    Why did/does the US vilify Hitler and Himler but not Hirohito and Tojo?
    I would guess for the same reason that Einstein encouaged the development of the atomic bomb to be used against Germany but regretted it's used against Japan.
    , @bomag

    America’s Left saw its opportunity in eliding the difference between most Whites’ cordial but wary relations between Blacks, and the Nazis’ attitude toward disfavored underclasses.
     
    Some of that.

    Part of it is that "Whites" were marketed as the ultimate can-do class that was going to fix all the world's problems. That the problems persist leads to blaming and shaming of those in power and a call for their replacement.
  20. White women consider White men their men and the global village to be their village.

    We all naturally think at the social scale of the village but this is doubly true for women. White women don’t really care what the Arab, African or Chinese families in the global village do; they care about policing, shaming and (hopefully) uplifting their own children and men. Saudis and Chinese can publicly execute prisoners ’till the cows come home and White ladies will barely wrinkle their little noses but if “that man!” Putin takes his shirt off while fishing then their whole day is ruined. Putin is sort of the brother-in-law of Hillary’s cousin in the global village and so it’s her job to shame and police him. “I don’t care what the Arabs do! In this family we’re nice to gays!”.

    This White lady world-view is fine and dandy at the level of the literal village but will be the death of us at the level of the mythical global village. Hillary Clinton, Madeline Albright and Samantha Power are the bossy Lady Bountifuls from the manor going around town shaming “their” men and uplifting the poor. Long story short, this is why we need to keep our ladies out of high level politics until they have the friend and enemy distinctions made perfectly clear to them.

    • Agree: Autochthon, Sayless
    • Replies: @Jake
    I think your assessment is correct. Whites are the near antithesis of the people directly addressed in Matthew 7: 3-5. Jesus talks about people whose first, and perhaps nearly only, instinct is to focus on even the smallest problem with other folks, and batter them, while ignoring their own much worse faults.

    Whites, meaning in this case Gentiles of European background, tend to be as you note: led by overly socially fastidious women, they will browbeat their own for little motes while ignoring not merely beams, but beams with gigantic spikes smeared in feces, that protrude from the eyes of non-whites and non-Christians.

    Those whites are as screwed up and WRONG as are the people on the other end of the pendulum that Jesus specifically condemns. In fact, whites being this way make those people much worse.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Long story short, this is why we need to keep our ladies out of high level politics until they have the friend and enemy distinctions made perfectly clear to them .

    There, Fixed It For You, as those people on the internet like to say.
    , @Kylie
    "Saudis and Chinese can publicly execute prisoners ’till the cows come home and White ladies will barely wrinkle their little noses but if “that man!” Putin takes his shirt off while fishing then their whole day is ruined. "

    I'm all in favor of public executions (for crimes like murder and rape) and a shirtless Putin (while fishing or at any other time).

    Women, whether or not they're white and/or ladies, need to stay out of politics and anything to do with public policy. Women never seem content merely to govern, they insist on ruling.
    , @AnotherDad

    This White lady world-view is fine and dandy at the level of the literal village but will be the death of us at the level of the mythical global village. Hillary Clinton, Madeline Albright and Samantha Power are the bossy Lady Bountifuls from the manor going around town shaming “their” men and uplifting the poor.
     
    This is a thing, but I don't think it's the main thing.

    #1, i'd say, is just that women's core instinct is "nurture". And this is a fine--in fact critical--personal instinct--nurturing your own kids--and even scales out to the village--volunteer in the schools--but is a poor overall political instinct.

    Welfare mom having another kid--we can't let that baby starve!

    Dead kid on the beach--oh, must let in the refugees!

    Refugees drowning at sea--must rescue those poor desperate refugees.

    Dead kids in Aleppo--must take Syrian refugees! or--the Hillary, busier body version--must shoot down their airplanes, including Russians if necessary!

    Illegal alien kids--can't send those poor innocents back!

    Mentally ill young homo thinks he's a girl--don't be a meany, she should be allowed in the girls locker room!

    Someone, somewhere said something disparaging about someone--bad, bad person! they shouldn't be allowed to speak!


    Again there's nothing wrong wit a nurturing instinct. We benefit greatly that women have it. But most political questions are not fundamentally about "nurture" they are "protection of nation", "protection of civilization", "justice", "rule of law", "getting the incentives right" and properly guided by reason not emotion.
  21. @Peter Akuleyev
    Arguably in this case Hillary is trying to play up the story that Putin is some kind of "white nationalist". Erdogan is also ethnically/genetically very much a "white" guy but I can't imagine Hillary calling him a "white authoritarian."

    The idea that Putin is a committed ethnic nationalist is a useful myth both for the American left and for the weird white nationalist Putin fanboys who seem to believe it as well. The truth is Putin doesn't give a damn about "white identity", he is a statist.

    Putin sees himself as an ethnic Russian running the multi-ethnic Russian Federation. That’s the hand Russia has had to play for centuries. Putin and his supporters have wrapped their minds around this and it’s of no import whether Stormfront types have managed to do the same. Putin is not an ethnic nationalist in the narrow, nasty 19th and 20th century form. He seems much more like an Austrian in the Austro-Hungarian Empire if that had managed to become a republic. That’s probably a better model for Whites going forward anyway.

    Our wise and kind managerial classes have used mass exotic immigration to give us a bunch of quickly thrown together modern versions of the Austro-Hungarian, Ottoman and Russian Empires to live in whether we want it or not. Putin’s Russianness may be a good template for American Whiteness.

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    I agree. Putin (and citizens of the RF in general) subscribes to the melting pot theory of assimilating minorities that worked pretty well for the US until the 1960s, worked better than people think in the USSR and is still working well for China. Russia has the largest Muslim population, both in percentage and absolute numbers, of any country in Europe, but for the most part they don't create problems. Russian culture is firmly established as the Leitkultur and minorities are free to celebrate elements of their own culture but it is understood that if push comes to shove the majority culture holds sway.
    , @Dmitry134564
    In Russia today, national minorities generally have priorities over the national majority, everything is suppressed by happy national media, much of government work is mediating between interests of differing oligarch demands, and the industries they run, and certain difficult future situations (such as a massively growing Muslim demographics, or even a certain Muslim (ex-Jihadist) prince of a certain federal subject extorting huge federal wealth transfers, is brushed under the carpet). Not sure if it's a good role model for the United States. If anything, Russia, like Brazil, is one of the few countries which makes the US look functional by comparison.
  22. @Peter Akuleyev
    Arguably in this case Hillary is trying to play up the story that Putin is some kind of "white nationalist". Erdogan is also ethnically/genetically very much a "white" guy but I can't imagine Hillary calling him a "white authoritarian."

    The idea that Putin is a committed ethnic nationalist is a useful myth both for the American left and for the weird white nationalist Putin fanboys who seem to believe it as well. The truth is Putin doesn't give a damn about "white identity", he is a statist.

    Yeah, that claim by Clinton is just mendacious. Or is Ramzan Kadyrov now mobilizing against Putin? Obviously then it would have to be true.

  23. She means that he is a white authoritarian in contrast to wonderful black authoritarians from history like Sideshow Bob Mugabe or Mobutu Sese Seko Kuku Ngbendu Wa Za Banga

  24. @Maj. Kong
    It looks like single digits of white cadets.

    That isn't America.

    #Calexit

    Those are photos of a high school youth program, http://www.lapdcadets.com

    • Replies: @jackson
    Yes, a high school youth program in which promising youngsters steal squad cars, impersonate LAPD officers, crash the cars in high-speed pursuits while attempting to flee real officers, and steal weapons and body armor from police stations.

    How long can this city hold up? Any ideas, Steve?

    , @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    And here are the cadets: slideshow here, sample here.

    Wow, LA is brown.
    , @Tiny Duck
    THIS is what America looks like
  25. @AndrewR
    Anti-white rhetoric in general seemed to skyrocket around 2012.

    A magical new era was supposed to bloom once the Mocha One was in the White House as President of Earth. That did not happen and so someone had to be blamed. Tinkerbell died and so some of you little White MFs must not have clapped hard enough.

    • LOL: AndrewR
  26. @hhsiii
    Who is her ghostwriter? Presumably she approved that after her 4th pre-5:00 Chardonnay. The only white she appreciates.

    pre-5:00? Man, she gets up early for breakfast.

  27. @JW Bell
    Those are photos of a high school youth program, http://www.lapdcadets.com

    Yes, a high school youth program in which promising youngsters steal squad cars, impersonate LAPD officers, crash the cars in high-speed pursuits while attempting to flee real officers, and steal weapons and body armor from police stations.

    How long can this city hold up? Any ideas, Steve?

    • Replies: @BB753
    No ideas except maybe turn it into a video-game. California can't be fixed anymore.
  28. An evil man becomes president. Please rank the following in order of most to least likely.

    A) He defeated Hillary Clinton.
    B) He colluded with Russia.
    C) He’s an authoritarian.
    D) He’s a white authoritarian.
    E) He is literally Hitler.

    (Who’s gonna get C and D wrong?)

  29. Why exactly did Hillary insert “white” before “authoritarian” in that sentence?

    Nobody says “white swan”. We say “swan” and “black swan”. So, no doubt, this was just another example of Hillary’s racism. After all, she is one of those “Beckys,” isn’t she?

  30. The best way to inculcate a white racial solidarity and consciousness is to keep up the anti-white hate. This disrespect makes excellent grist for the propaganda mill, especially from someone as loathsome as Hillary.

  31. Well it was 2001 when a card-carrying member of the UK great and good, Greg Dyke (former chairman of The Football Association, former Director-General of the BBC, former TV executive, long-time Labour supporter and Blairite, later Liberal Democrat), revealed just how internalised the “white is bad” dogma had become amongst our social elites, when he famously described the national state television service as being “hideously white”.

    So it’s certainly nothing new over here.

  32. @Peter Akuleyev
    The elites seem completely unaware how grating their usage of "white" is. It shows how deeply trapped they are in their own little bubble.

    We get a window into their world via YouTube videos of the conferences and luncheons they post without thought as to how they appear to others. It’s a team-building gesture and ice-breaker to make a few little jokes at the expense of those benighted White people who lack the money or connections to be there with them. “The absent are always wrong” or “those absent are never without fault while those present are never without excuses” as the sayings go.

  33. @jackson
    Yes, a high school youth program in which promising youngsters steal squad cars, impersonate LAPD officers, crash the cars in high-speed pursuits while attempting to flee real officers, and steal weapons and body armor from police stations.

    How long can this city hold up? Any ideas, Steve?

    No ideas except maybe turn it into a video-game. California can’t be fixed anymore.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    Buckets of Chinese (and soon Indian) money say otherwise.
  34. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Did you guys hear the Ms. America Pageant final questions this year?

    “There are multiple investigations into whether Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia on the election. Well, did they? You’re the jury: guilty or innocent? And please explain your verdict.”

    “Last month, a demonstration of neo-Nazis, white supremacists and the KKK in Charlottesville, Va., turned violent and a counterprotester was killed. The president said there was shared blame with ‘very fine people’ on both sides. Were there? Tell me yes or no, and explain.”

    “One hundred ninety-five countries signed the Paris agreement, in which each country sets nonbinding goals to reduce man-made climate change. The U.S. is withdrawing from the agreement, citing negligible environmental effects and negative economic impact. Good decision? Bad decision? Which is it and why?”

    “A recent poll found slightly over half of Americans favored leaving Confederate statues in place, while others want them removed. Keep them or get rid of them? What’s your vote and why?”

    “Given the evidence that concussions from playing football can cause brain damage, would you support legislation that outlaws full-contact football in elementary and high school? Yes or no, and why?”
    http://www.nola.com/tv/index.ssf/2017/09/miss_america_interview_questio.html

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    "Did you guys hear the Ms. America Pageant final questions this year?..... "

    This is leftism at its finest. It squeezes its way into everything, everything is a political lesson on what they view is right, all is distorted, everything is a test to weed out the dissenters.

    I remember getting a look at one point at an English textbook used to teach during Maoist China. Interestingly, just about every page had a sentence somewhere in it teaching the tenements of Communism, praising the Communist government, or being a good worker, etc. I'm sick of this BS going on here. These fools want to live this way, go to North Korea. Leave everyone else the h*ll alone.
  35. It is interesting to speculate on just when this — “the increasingly gratuitous usage among white elites of the word ‘white’ as an insult” — happened.

    My theory is that Obama’s eight year reign of terror was the imprimatur the good whites needed to turn “white” into a moral stigma. Completely aligned with Obama (the black super-hero) was the massive block of opinion-attitude entities — MSM, entertainment industry, academia. Obama’s presidency — so the story-line goes — was not only wonderful, but inevitable. And so, it is now time for whites to quit complaining, except their inferior status and step aside. The insults are embedded in the new progressive order, part of the pay back. Hillary tried to be Obama II but for obvious reasons couldn’t pull it off. The Dems now are shopping around to find a more suitable choice for 2020. Recently I saw a piece by Douglas Schoen, former Clinton pollster, in the Hill, I think, “arguing” that Michelle Obama is the best Democrat to beat Trump. Makes sense, sort of.

    See: https://www.amren.com/news/2017/03/exterminationist-left-happy-trails-zimbabwe/

    • Replies: @jim jones
    Reddit thinks that Chelsea would be a good candidate:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6zm07r/they_will_get_chelsea_to_run_for_literally/
    , @Mr. Blank
    Yeah, that's my take, too. Obama's election in 2008, and especially his re-election in 2012 over uber-white Mitt Romney, caused Dems to jump the gun and assume the long-promised multicultural millenium was at hand. They assumed it was safe to drop the mask.

    Trump's election merely caused them to double down. If Trump wins re-election, it will be for exactly that reason.

    At that point, I'd expect Dems to belatedly realize that even if they're not a majority, white people will continue to be the dominant force in American politics, and constantly insulting them and wishing for their deaths probably isn't a smart strategy.

    If Trump loses...well, all bets are off.
  36. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    An awful lot to unpack in that Freudian or not so Freudian slip by Hillary Clinton.

    Deep – devilishly deep, involving projection, transference, psychology, history, semantics etc – and plain old school-yard bullying, chicken pecking orders, the ‘ecstasy of disavowal’ – and the sheer animal primeval self-preservation desire to save one’s own skin by not mere joining the bully-pack but instigating it instead.

    A few examples. The ‘gods’ of a defeated people become the ‘devils’ of the conquerors. The self named designation of a defeated ethny, tribe, people etc either becomes a derogatory word in the language of the conquerors or the description of the servile class in society.

    Hence, the English word ‘villain’ meaning ‘offender’ originally only meant ‘peasant’ in the sense of defeated Anglo-Saxon versus Norman Lord.

  37. Steve Bannon, in his recent 60 mins interview, said that Hillary is not very bright. I think he is right.

    Combine this with her being in a filter bubble, it seems likely that she, and hopefully the Dems too, cannot resist doubling down on identity politics, with whites as the bogey man. Being whites themselves, they see being ostentatiously anti white as a status symbol. They are running some weird combination of primate dominance display, combined with a bird of paradise like virtue signal. No doubt Jordan Peterson could wax lyrical on what’s going on.

    They seem not to understand cause and effect….of karma. Identity politics begets identity politics and whites are, ever so gently for now, starting to play. The Dems themselves have and still are strategically facilitating the Sailer strategy. Many of us badwhites think this is wonderful, it’s certainly entertaining.

    Steve Bannon points out that many of the brighter pinkoes know this doubling down on identity politics is an error. But it seems likely that the identity politics push has gotten an unstoppable momentum of its own. Hopefully they will pick another POC as their next leader, here’s hoping for Kamala Harris.

    The Bannon interview was fun to watch. I wish they’d just played the full thing without editing. I guess that’s too much to expect.

    • Agree: Thea
    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh

    Steve Bannon, in his recent 60 mins interview, said that Hillary is not very bright. I think he is right.
     
    I do love Bannon. That was probably the single best way to get a rise out of that self-important, self-aggrandizing female dog.
    , @Detective Club
    In lieu of applauding you for all the many excellent points you touch upon, let me commend you for the first one which you make : Hillary is not all that bright and never was. The only thing that she had in abundance was LUCK, along with a hell of a lot of sheer nerve.

    She was lucky not to wind up in an orange jumpsuit before the Dem. Convention in 2016. She had much to thank Lynch and Comey for that Tank Job, back then. A Republican would have wound up under the jail if he or she had committed a mere fraction of the crimes of Hillary Clinton. Let’s remember and not forget the bribes she took from Tyson Chicken in 1977-79, laundering the kickback money through the Chicago Mercantile Exchange.

    On Nov. 8, 2016, Trump beat her by a combined vote of about 70,000 in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. A minor miracle of yuge proportions. Hillary’s LUCK had finally run out.
    , @Intelligent Dasein

    Steve Bannon, in his recent 60 mins interview,
     
    I'm glad somebody brought up this interview, because I need to unburden myself of a most disquieting sensation. I feel like I'm in The Twilight Zone whenever I hear people on our side talk about how wonderful that interview was, as if one morning I woke up the same and everybody else was different.

    A word to the wise here---that interview was atrocious. Steve Bannon comes across as an unhinged zealot: Bloodshot eyes, interruptive speech, delusions of grandeur. He seems to think he's still playing some sort of vital role within the Trump administration, although paradoxically from "outside" it. The fact of the matter, as is becoming quite clear, is just the opposite. Bannon was apparently always a marginal figure in Trump's circle and with Trump's increasingly establishment drift, there is no longer any use for him. This must have come as a blow to Bannon's ego. He once thought (and had many others thinking) that he was the indispensable architect of the victorious Trump movement. That idea has turned out to be largely a myth created by himself.

    In compensation, Bannon has taken to running Breitbart as if it were his own personal vanity site. The features now consist of basically two kinds: 1) Articles about Steve Bannon; and 2) Articles about articles about Steve Bannon. This is is recurring theme with Breitbart and is reminiscent of the turbo-gonzo days of Milo Yiannopoulos.

    What's worse is the actual content of Steve Bannon's vision for the country. He styles himself as a defender of "radical unity," meaning that Americans of every race, religion, and sexual orientation will find common cause in his program of economic nationalism.

    It is impossible to overstate how stupid that is. Replace economic nationalism with "muh free market" and there is nothing to distinguish this from the cuckservativism of DR3 and "enterprise zones," except that Bannon's version lacks the gibs and graft necessary to actually make the spoils system work.

    Steve Bannon is an epic failure as a statesman. Whether its his grandiose but inaccurate historiographies ("Firing James Comey was the worst mistake in modern political history") or his cowardly hypocrisy ("We committed the original sin of the Trump administration; we embraced the establishment"), he is an unstable, self-promoting, and self-aggrandizing lunatic who has no place anywhere near the corridors of power.
    , @Cagey Beast
    Steve Bannon is right to say Hillary's not very bright about national politics but she's a genius at the level of social politics. At the matriarchal game she's unmatched. She stood by wayward Bill because she saw the long game, she got her plain daughter married off well and her Clinton Foundation is a comfortable little nest egg by even Saudi standards. She's even a bit of a living martyr at the hands of mean White men. That last bit is the cherry on top of the White lady masterpiece that is her life.
    , @Russ
    Loved your point about wanting to see the unexpurgated Bannon interview.

    The very first issue of Playboy I ever read was from 1990 or so. Its feature interview was of Donald Trump. Trump also had his own camera crew tape the interview. Wish Bannon had done likewise with 60 Minutes.
    , @Lurker

    Being whites themselves, they see being ostentatiously anti white as a status symbol.
     
    Indeed, how many times have we seen some dim wit SJW say online "But I'm white, how can I be anti-white?"
  38. Because whites have unearned privileges that are greater than their contributions

    Leonard Pitts and verysmartbrothas have written extensively on how white men continue to murder People of Color. Complaining about “anti white” stuff contributes to white supremacy. You guys are traitors tearforists and fake Americans. America is about freedom justice and the fight against racism

    You people need to get out. America does not want or need you

    As any Person of Color will tell you white men take credit for inventing things they stole from People of Color

    Also white wonen are increasingly bearing Children of Color. I cannot wait for just stick to be served

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    Tearrorist is a new word for crybully. I approve!
    , @MEH 0910

    As any Person of Color will tell you white men take credit for inventing things they stole from People of Color
     
    Name some examples.
    , @Sgt. Joe Friday
    "You people need to get out. America does not want or need you"

    Fine with me. Give us a place to go, and we won't bother you again. The catch is that you have to agree not to bother us.
    , @Olorin
    OK OK OK then.

    I asked for a higher quality troll, I was told we can't afford it, being a sort of tincup-for-existence samizdat endeavor.

    So can we at LEAST take up a collection to send Dicky Nut to SKDKnickerbocker's summer camp for PR interns?

    Or maybe they're already sending their best. Hm.

    I demand more Edge from our resident troll!

    More wit! More...Andrew Anglin and less Andrew Cuomo! More Adrean Arlott and less Adrienne Arsineault! More Nick Bougas and less Nick Kristof!

    Dammit, I came of age on PJ O'Rourke in Ma Poon and manuscripts of The Boomer Bible (not published in book form till 1990 iirc)!

    http://johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/Culture/Extras/foreigners.html

    http://theboomerbible.com/

    I demand better Troll!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp8t8b6Uo3o

    , @fish

    Tiny dat be excellent sentence structure. Leonard approves.

    - Leonard Pitts
     
    , @Logan
    "As any Person of Color will tell you white men take credit for inventing things they stole from People of Color."

    No doubt. However, this does not mean their stories are true.

  39. The 2 black ladies that won the US Open had the WASPiest names ever, Sloane Stephens and Madison Keys. With 13 yro Cori Gauff almost winning the girls open. Compare with old timers Serena Jameka and Venus Ebony Starr Williams. Note: Keys passes the 1 drop test.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Madison Keys looks a little like Cheryl Crow.
  40. What would happen if it became unacceptable to openly hate white people?

  41. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/09/british-conductor-sacked-us-music-festival-joke-labelled-racist/

    British conductor sacked by US music festival after ‘innocent’ joke with his African-American friend was labelled racist

    Patrick Sawer
    9 SEPTEMBER 2017

    An acclaimed British conductor has been fired from a prestigious American music festival after a seemingly innocent joke he made to a black friend was labelled racist.

    Matthew Halls was removed as artistic director of the Oregon Bach Festival following an incident in which he imitated a southern American accent while talking to his longstanding friend, the African-American classical singer Reginald Mobley.

    It is understood a white woman who overheard the joke reported it to officials at the University of Oregon, which runs the festival, claiming it amounted to a racial slur.

    Shortly after Halls, who has worked with orchestras and opera houses across Europe and the US, was told by a university official his four year contract, which was to have run until 2020, was being terminated.

    Mobley, a countertenor who regularly performs in the UK, has now spoken out to defend his friend, saying there was nothing racist about the joke and describing the university’s apparent treatment of Halls as deeply unjust.

    “He has been victimised and I’m very upset about it,” he told The Sunday Telegraph. ”It was an innocent joke that has been entirely taken out of context.”

    The incident comes amid heightened sensitivity over race in the US, with renewed protest over police brutality, institutional racism and the re-emergence of white supremacists.

    It also coincides with the rise of what some have dubbed ‘the snowflake generation’ and the debate over whether the demand for ‘safe spaces’ on campus stifles debate and free speech or simply protects minorities from abuse and discrimination.

    But Mobley maintains that while racism should be challenged and ethnic groups made aware of each other’s sensitivities, his friend has been the victim of misunderstanding and overreaction.

    Halls and Mobley had been chatting at a reception held last month during this year’s Oregon Bach Festival, when the subject turned to a concert in London in which Mobley had performed.

    The singer, who was born and raised in the southern state of Florida, said the concert had an “antebellum” feel to it, of the sort associated with Gone With the Wind and other rose-tinted representations of the pre-Civil War south.

    In response Mobley says that Halls “apologised on behalf of England”, before putting on an exaggerated southern accent and joking: “Do you want some grits?”, in a reference to the ground corn dish popular in the south.

    “I’m from the deep south and Matthew often makes fun of the southern accent just as I often make fun of his British accent,” said Mobley. “Race was not an issue. He was imitating a southern accent, not putting on a black accent, and there was nothing racist or malicious about it.”

    But the singer suspects that a white woman who overheard their conversation and spoke to him moments later went on to report it to the university, alleging Halls had made a racist joke.

    An internal inquiry into the incident is understood to have been held as a result of the complaint.

    However, Mobley was not invited to give evidence and he says there is a deep irony in the fact the authorities appear to have assumed on his behalf that he would have objected to the joke.

    “I’m the subject of a falsified story, without having the chance to have my say,” he said. “My voice has been taken away in a conversation about race that involved me, and technically that’s racist.”

    Pressure on the festival organisers to reinstate Halls is growing, with from others musicians coming to his support.

    Meanwhile Mobley fears his friend’s career will suffer after being tarnished with the incendiary label of racism.

    “Matthew is obviously upset, and part of his anger would have to come from the fact he’s been accused of saying something so insensitive to a close friend,” said Mobley.

    The singer, who will perform in Purcell’s King Arthur with the Academy of Ancient Music at London’s Barbican next month, says that while he appreciates the efforts of some white people to confront racism, he warns it can lead to wrong headed assumptions.

    “A lot of our allies have become so eager to help the race and fix the scars they almost go too far,” said Mobley. “They think they are at the point where they understand racism more than those who have really encountered it in their lives and they make assumptions on our behalf about how we might feel, as if we don’t understand when something said to us or done to use is racist.

    “It’s well meaning, but the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

    “It also demeans and cheapens the very serious work done by civil rights activists and abolitionists to have the difficult nuances of racism and microaggressions taken seriously.”

    Responding to the claims a spokesman for Oregon Bach Festival, said: “The University considers many factors when deciding whether to continue a contract. Regarding Reggie Mobley, it doesn’t appear he was involved in the University’s decision. Having said that, it would be inappropriate for the University to disclose details about a personnel matter.

    “While I anticipate that more information will be available soon, I’m afraid that’s all I can say on the matter right now.”

    Educated white women are a big part of the problem. Fortunately non-gelded white men now have an option: yellow women.

    • Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...
    I love watching them eat their own.
    , @Alden
    I've never been in a confederate state but I really like grits. I don't like polenta at all, but I really like grits. Some of the cooking shows feature low country S Carolina shrimp and grits and grits and cheese soufflé type things.

    If the cooking show hostesses are black is the grits recipes racist? If the hostess is White is it racist?

    Is it racist for a White woman to like grits?

    You all will be happy to know that the Los Angeles Public Library system recently upheld the right of homeless crazies to sit at the computers in the 3 to 6 pm reserved for students section and look at porn and rub themselves.

    It was hoped that the kids vs porn viewers could be solved by by creating a separate homework section of computers and tables reserved for kids 3 to 6.

    But some of the lesbian SJW librarians felt that all library patrons should have public access to porn at every computer at all times.

    Free speech for me but not for thee.
    The two friends should have said the snitch bitch was lying. They should have charged her with saying the N word. Or turning down a disgusting sex approach by an N word.

    In 50 years of fending off attacks by liberals I've learned to fight fire with fire. Whites are in our present loser position is because we fight honestly.
    , @jim jones
    If I was eighteen again I would let my yellow fever run wild:

    https://imgur.com/a/vV9yk
    , @jim jones
    If I was eighteen again I would let my yellow fever run wild:

    https://imgur.com/a/vV9yk
  42. “Why exactly did Hillary insert “white” before “authoritarian” in that sentence? ”

    Is it not in part because Hillary thinks she is an honorary sassy black lady? Lord knows she’s put in the time. Con-fabbing and photo-opping with grievance committees. Boogie-ing down with the sistas in her Friday Night Pantsuit.

    Honorary Sassy Black Lady status, I guess, allows one to rail against “white authoritarians.”

    Some people are saying though, that Hillary has been white and authoritarian since Kindergarten, possibly earlier.

  43. Ironically, the future of the Democrat Party is Tom Perez and Keith Ellison. Whites like Clinton, Pelosi and Schumer have no future in that party other than as field honkies.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Whites like Clinton, Pelosi and Schumer have no future in that party other than as field honkies.
     
    field honkies! That's great.
    , @AnotherDad

    Ironically, the future of the Democrat Party is Tom Perez and Keith Ellison. Whites like Clinton, Pelosi and Schumer have no future in that party other than as field honkies.
     
    Schumer? Seriously?

    The Democrat party is the Jews' party. The blacks are a vote bank, paid off with some welfare, some racial mau-mauing and AA table scraps and comfy sinecures for some talented--and even very untalented--tenth black elites.

    Yeah, down the road a few generations, the Jews may well lose control of this thing, but it's their show right now and that isn't about to change anytime soon. The coalition of the fringes is going to be run by the fringe that both has the money and is actually smart enough to make the coalition work.
  44. @Declane
    Just out of curiosity I googled the president of Mexico to see how white he looked. He looks as white as the average Italian-American in my neighborhood. It's funny how people talk about Mexicans and racism and all that without ever acknowledging that there are basically two races in Mexico - the ones with a drop of native blood and the ones with a bucket.

    But he is 5'7" so at least he shows his solidarity with his lessers by not reaching his full European height.

    Jorge Ramos plays the same game. He has blue eyes and relatively pale skin, but claims to be fighting white supremacy.

  45. It was a given that ‘white’ would become the most important label for people who are ‘bad’, according to the Liberal narrative. ‘White’ is our ‘kulak.’ It was a given because of human nature.

    Liberals wanted to save and uplift the precious Numinous Negro. Liberals drew on the long history of WASP Elites hating the clear majority of whites they ruled as inferior, and even as deserving of something close to extermination (save that the WASP Elites needed somebody to do al the grunt work). So, our Liberals already ‘knew’ that the Irish, Scots, Welsh, and all Catholics and all non-Germanic whites, were flawed terribly, so much so they might not even be fit for anything.

    And that means when the Yankee Liberal WASP went gung-ho for the Numinous Negro, his utter contempt for non-WASP whites would also grow. That explained nicely how not he and his ‘good whites’ were responsible for racism. Nope, it was the white trash that the WASP Elites had always despised. And that is, and was, the vast majority of whites.

    And once that is mainstreamed, all things white will become bad, evil, putrid, at the very least boring and petty and dull. The movie Dodgeball is a fine example: White Goodman is the comic villian

  46. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Did you see Sergio Dipp’s ESPN sideline report from Monday Night Football? I didn’t either because I no longer watch the NFL. But anyway, Sergio (who was born in Mexicali, Mexico and attended the University of Monterrey, where he studied communications) highlighted the black coach’s diversity and went into an embarrassing commentary.

    • Replies: @grapesoda
    Because it's ESPN. They've been going full SJW for years now, in spite of tanking ratings and financial difficulties.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-28/espn-can-t-afford-to-go-on-like-this

    http://www.businessinsider.com/espns-layoffs-spell-trouble-for-live-sports-2017-3

    They also had a "groundbreaking" female-only announcing crew for the Monday night game, which all non-SJWs thought was terrible.

    ESPN is the Democratic Party of cable channels, ie too arrogant to try to correct their mistakes.
    , @Russ
    Don't know how Sergio was worse - in the brazen pandering to the SJWs, or in a performance that was worse than amateurish by any objective standards.
  47. @jackson
    OT: have you heard about the recent LAPD cadet scandal (cadets stealing patrol cars and weapons)?

    Also, have you seen the demographics of the cadets lately? See here.

    Pretty uninspiring photo for future policeman; half look overweight.

    Not quite half appear female.

  48. The Democrats have positioned themselves as the not-white party, so any reference to whiteness is intended to remind people that person in question is not one of the virtuous, since to be a Democratic voter is to be on the side of the angels.

    The problem for the left is that they still need 40+ of white voters to win national elections, and the number of whites who are willing to put their needs and interests perpetually behind that of ‘people of color’ is limited. It is possible the Dems could see a rebound from the 37% of the white vote in 2016 if Trump becomes widely unpopular and they run a candidate who steers the party back towards economic issues rather than racial ones, but I am not sure the internal politics of the party will allow that.

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    That's the problem that the Dems are running into these days. Blacks, Hispanics, even Muslims are demanding to be front and center in the party leadership and to be the candidates. White men, Jews and white women are being pushed out.

    It was one thing having Bill Clinton or Schumer or Biden chiding whites and talking about white privilege. It's another to have Tony Perez or Keith Ellison talking about black and Hispanic pride while telling working class whites that they are terrible.

    Obama got away with it in part because of his personality (a well-spoken black who frankly didn't act like other blacks) and in part because he was the first PoC to get elected to high office. But even his racial animus came out over time, and it rubbed whites the wrong way.

    Whites won't have as much patience the next time around, nor will the PoC messenger likely be as smooth as Obama.

    It's a major problem for the Dems. Luckily for them, the GOP would rather perish than stand up for whites so the Dems will be just fine because it's hard to lose if you don't have an opponent.
  49. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    With all due respect, SS, I think you’re misinterpreting Hillary. Calling Trump a “white authoritarian” is simply accurate. Any number of African strongmen are “black authoritarians,” Mao was a “Chinese (or Han) authoritarian,” etc.

    I would suggest it is you, SS, who is projecting your own dislike of White nationalism. As a “citizenist” or whatever you were calling yourself awhile back, the “white” identifier offends you.

    Actually, Hillary is simply wrong; Trump is indeed a citizenist, not a White nationalist or White authoritarian. More’s the pity.

  50. @Peter Akuleyev
    Arguably in this case Hillary is trying to play up the story that Putin is some kind of "white nationalist". Erdogan is also ethnically/genetically very much a "white" guy but I can't imagine Hillary calling him a "white authoritarian."

    The idea that Putin is a committed ethnic nationalist is a useful myth both for the American left and for the weird white nationalist Putin fanboys who seem to believe it as well. The truth is Putin doesn't give a damn about "white identity", he is a statist.

    The idea that Putin is a committed ethnic nationalist is a useful myth both for the American left and for the weird white nationalist Putin fanboys who seem to believe it as well. The truth is Putin doesn’t give a damn about “white identity”, he is a statist.

    Yeah, but Putin is a “statist” in a lily-white country. Ergo, Russian nationalism is white Russian nationalism. You don’t see him importing Syrians, Turks, Pakistanis and Africans like Merkel and May, do you?

    • Replies: @Lex
    You see him importing Uzbeks and Tajiks though.
    , @Dmitry134564
    The national minorities in the country have disproportionate power relative to the national majority. And the legal and illegal immigration from the CIS states - Caucasia and Central Asia, is equivalent to the situation of Latin American immigration in the United States.

    The configuration in the US is different - where the European majority has traditionally held power, wealth and prestige. Whereas in Russia, the majority nationality does not really have such a position, and national minorities are embedded in the ruling class (there's not need of 'affirmative action'). Compare the richest man in the US - Bill Gates (derived from the majority nationality of the country). While in Russia - Alisher Usmanov (who represents a nationality of some 1% within the country).

  51. Hillary Clinton is a boozehound hypocrite who lives in the mostly White town of Chappaqua, New York. Chappaqua is in Westchester County, New York. Chester is some form of the Roman word for camp. Hillary Clinton can be found at her imperial compound in the mostly White town of Chappaqua, New York doing the thing Hillary Clinton loves to do: drinking booze and attacking her fellow White people. That is Hillary Clinton’s hobby.

    I hereby submit to you my belief that on the morning of September 11 of 2016 Hillary Clinton was both drunk as a skunk and hungover at the same time. Hillary Clinton’s inner rancidity was so great that her body rebelled against the excessive amounts of booze that she had imbibed the night before and then again starting in the morning.

    Exhibit (A) of my assertion that Hillary Clinton was both drunk as a skunk and hungover on September 11 2016:

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Ah yes, the one year anniversary of that blessed event.
    , @Not Raul
    Stuff WASPs like: sending little Chip (or Trip) to Camp Chesterfield for the Summer.
    , @Kylie
    I never thought I would enjoy watching a video of Hillary--or any other reminder of her ill-conceived existence in this already troubled world---but my god, I love this.
  52. “White” and “whiteness,” as pejorative words, seem to have origins, of course, in the early 1990s “academic” environment, especially in sociology, education studies, political philosophy, and psychology and to have very deep connections to the “anti-racist” “multi-cultural” political movement of that time and of today.

    For example:

    Drexel University “political philosopher” and “theorists” George Ciccariello-Maher points out that whiteness is not a race in a biological sense; it is a political category. “It just so happens that the political category of whiteness means nothing but ‘I am better than something else,’” he told me in a recent conversation on racism. “What whiteness means is that I’m not black and I’m not nonwhite, and therefore I deserve extra privileges.”

    Another perspective from a psychologist:

    In contemporary progressive circles, it is generally assumed that a group should be able to define itself, but whiteness has historically been defined by non-whites. For example, James Weldon Johnson, an African American poet and anthologist observed in 1912 that “The colored people of this country know and understand the white people better than the white people will ever know and understand themselves.” In the past 20 years, many white writers and scholars have embraced the study of whiteness, but people of color, particularly Black writers and academics continue to make significant (at times, even primary) contributions to this area of scholarship.

    There are several different components of whiteness. These include: 1) racial identity, 2) racial bias, and 3) racial privilege.

    “Multi-cultural education” professor and activist Robin DiAngelo is credited with creating the concept of “white fragility.”

    White people in North America live in a social environment that protects and insulates them from race-based stress. This insulated environment of racial protection builds white expectations for racial comfort while at the same time lowering the ability to tolerate racial stress, leading to what I refer to as White Fragility. White Fragility is a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves. These moves include the outward display of emotions such as anger, fear, and guilt, and behaviors such as argumentation, silence, and leaving the stress-inducing situation. These behaviors, in turn, function to reinstate white racial equilibrium.

    And “anti-racist” “multi-cultural” “multi-racialists,” such as those at the Center for the Study of White American Culture, have created “Decentering Whiteness” as an overt political strategy.

    Since its founding (in 1997), CSWAC has led in the exploration of white American culture, and its ramifications in the perpetuation and undoing of racism. We have seen the topics of whiteness, white privilege, and white American culture move from being taboo subjects to becoming open to public discussion.

    Whiteness in its contemporary form in United States society is culturally based. It controls institutions, which are extensions of white American culture, and which are also bounded, that is, governed, by the values and precepts of white American culture.

    Whiteness needs to be taken out of the center to join other racial/cultural groups on the margins. Simply attacking whiteness is not enough to accomplish this goal. Assaults on whiteness, depending on their nature, may have the effect of confirming and solidifying the central position of whiteness in American society. Thought must be given to how whiteness itself can be made more marginal.

    Previously, “A Symposium on Whiteness” (1995) focused on the emerging field of “whiteness studies.” “The explicit goal of this work, of course, is to move whiteness from the center.” Another article was titled “Decentering Whiteness: In Search of a Revolutionary Multiculturalism” (Peter McLaren, 1997). Decentering whiteness, as we understand it, also requires a concurrent process of multiracial centering.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  53. @Anonymous
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is indeed a nationalist, but not a "white nationalist". He is a Russian nationalist. Russians are not all necessarily all that white-there are Asian and Middle Eastern admixtures in much of the Greater Russian population-but VV Putin does not care about that.

    If it's Russian, he's for it. If he thinks it's bad for Russia, he's against it. Very simple.

    He has a simple yardstick. Oh sure, he likes to wield power, and he is no ascetic or monk. He is very wealthy. But if he thinks it's bad for Russia and Russians no amount of money would sway him.

    I think Trump is a decent person in many ways, but Putin is a far more serious, a far more powerful man. I doubt America will ever really have a Putin.

    Damn shame, really.

    For the United States to produce a Putin, we will have to go through extreme turmoil, similar to Russia in the 90’s. I wouldn’t bet against it at some point, but not before much pain and death.

    • Replies: @fish
    It's coming....
  54. Why exactly did Hillary insert “white” before “authoritarian” in that sentence?

    Because she believes that it scores points with PoC and some white women (and some Jews) and doesn’t cost her anything with whites. (I also think that she just doesn’t like strong white men.)

    She’s wrong, but that’s what she believes. In her defense, she likely would have been right up to a couple of years ago.

  55. @Anonymous
    This picture is larger: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBapsirUMAAzdhs.jpg:large

    Trust but verify, please provide a link to a piece or something that shows that’s legit.

    Some weird things about it:
    1/ that’s a monster graduating class
    2/ different uniforms, lapd graduations via google show all cadets in black
    3/ march’s graduating class had 30 ppl in it (18 hispanics tho, so….)

    http://www.lapdonline.org/home/news_view/61976

  56. “the Nazis’ attitude toward disfavored underclasses”
    I don’t exactly see who antisemites’ “disfavored underclasses” were.
    Demonization doesn’t an underclass make.

    • Replies: @Kevin C.
    Indeed, "market dominant minority"≠"underclass"; if anything, it's much more unsafe to be the former (something we American whites should keep in mind, as we're about to become one).
  57. @Arclight
    The Democrats have positioned themselves as the not-white party, so any reference to whiteness is intended to remind people that person in question is not one of the virtuous, since to be a Democratic voter is to be on the side of the angels.

    The problem for the left is that they still need 40+ of white voters to win national elections, and the number of whites who are willing to put their needs and interests perpetually behind that of 'people of color' is limited. It is possible the Dems could see a rebound from the 37% of the white vote in 2016 if Trump becomes widely unpopular and they run a candidate who steers the party back towards economic issues rather than racial ones, but I am not sure the internal politics of the party will allow that.

    That’s the problem that the Dems are running into these days. Blacks, Hispanics, even Muslims are demanding to be front and center in the party leadership and to be the candidates. White men, Jews and white women are being pushed out.

    It was one thing having Bill Clinton or Schumer or Biden chiding whites and talking about white privilege. It’s another to have Tony Perez or Keith Ellison talking about black and Hispanic pride while telling working class whites that they are terrible.

    Obama got away with it in part because of his personality (a well-spoken black who frankly didn’t act like other blacks) and in part because he was the first PoC to get elected to high office. But even his racial animus came out over time, and it rubbed whites the wrong way.

    Whites won’t have as much patience the next time around, nor will the PoC messenger likely be as smooth as Obama.

    It’s a major problem for the Dems. Luckily for them, the GOP would rather perish than stand up for whites so the Dems will be just fine because it’s hard to lose if you don’t have an opponent.

    • Replies: @Arclight
    Yeah - if the GOP was smart, they could continue to win the presidency just due to the erosion of white support for the Democrats alone. Even smarter would be to adopt the strategy Sailer has put forth of encouraging the perception of the Dems as a party primarily concerned with black Americans and force Hispanic voters to choose between that and the GOP as an alternative. You need a Rove or a Stone for that, and frankly the GOP doesn't really have a master political architect right now, but neither do the Dems.
    , @Beckow

    "Tony Perez or Keith Ellison talking about black and Hispanic pride while telling working class whites that they are terrible.....Obama got away with it in part because of his personality"

     

    That's a very good analysis. It explains the liberal media hysteria - both Dems and GOP establishment are cornered. So they lash out.

    Trump shook the system that was already wobbly. It is not possible to put it back in the box. There are too many ambitious politicians who would pick up the same themes. The best establishment option would be a neutered Trump who betrays his voters.

    The progressives are not very good with numbers. It will be another 20-30 years before they would have the PoC coalition that they seem to think already exists. They live mainly in immigrant-heavy enclaves and, as all simple people, they extrapolate. The liberal dominance depended on pacified and disinterested white voting, that is gone. It is unlikely that even 40% of whites would vote for identity-obsessed Dems. People know when they are not liked. And most pro-Trump part of America are white High School students - they will soon start voting.

    How are Dem candidates going to address the massive white majority of 70-75%? Preaching and accusations, name calling and hatred are not going to get many white votes. Once society is polarized, the largest group prevails.

    , @Anon
    Part of the problem with Republican candidates for office is that they have had the rule of coalition building beaten into their heads, namely, he who wins is the one who puts together the biggest coalition. It's a basic rule of warfare. They're not used to the idea that this country is fragmenting into masses that no longer assimilate and that-old fashioned coalition building no longer works on a national level. The main problem is that the Democrats, by demonizing whites, are splintering the electorate irreparably. Republicans hate the idea that they'll win elections by imitating George Wallace or Theodore Bilbo, and that what used to be the ideology of the old South is now white America writ large. You've got all these northern descendants of abolitionists and Unions soldiers who are writhing in agony at the thought of it.

    Someone made the point above is that self-hating whites like Hillary can only lead blacks and browns by being a self-hating white and buy promising to pass on a lot of free goodies, and that the minute white Democratics start losing elections anyway, blacks and browns will abandon them as candidates and create the rule that only people of color can represent them in office. That will finish off white Democrats completely. To POCs, having patronage and money being passed onto them in local politics by POC aldermen and mayors is far more important than supporting white candidates who lose elections and who fail to cough up the goodies.
    , @Kevin C.

    Whites won’t have as much patience the next time around
     
    So we "lose patience." So what? What can we do with that loss of patience except stew impotently in our anger and frustration? Elect more GOP Congress-critters who will, no matter what they say before the election, inevitably become a new batch of John McCains once in office? Because that's what the job is: to put up a show of fighting the left, then valiantly lose, thereby maintaining the illusion that Congress actually matters or has any real power anymore, rather than being one of the empty, last remnants of the Old Republic? Electing another Trump, who will be just as ineffective against the Deep State as him, because the Deep State are our true, unelected rulers who do not answer to any president, who are more powerful than any president? The "swamp" is undrainable, because it has far more power than any would-be "drainer."
  58. @Cagey Beast
    Putin sees himself as an ethnic Russian running the multi-ethnic Russian Federation. That's the hand Russia has had to play for centuries. Putin and his supporters have wrapped their minds around this and it's of no import whether Stormfront types have managed to do the same. Putin is not an ethnic nationalist in the narrow, nasty 19th and 20th century form. He seems much more like an Austrian in the Austro-Hungarian Empire if that had managed to become a republic. That's probably a better model for Whites going forward anyway.

    Our wise and kind managerial classes have used mass exotic immigration to give us a bunch of quickly thrown together modern versions of the Austro-Hungarian, Ottoman and Russian Empires to live in whether we want it or not. Putin's Russianness may be a good template for American Whiteness.

    I agree. Putin (and citizens of the RF in general) subscribes to the melting pot theory of assimilating minorities that worked pretty well for the US until the 1960s, worked better than people think in the USSR and is still working well for China. Russia has the largest Muslim population, both in percentage and absolute numbers, of any country in Europe, but for the most part they don’t create problems. Russian culture is firmly established as the Leitkultur and minorities are free to celebrate elements of their own culture but it is understood that if push comes to shove the majority culture holds sway.

  59. Whites Without College Degrees(WWCDs) thoroughly dislike mass immigration and multicultural mayhem. In the 2016 presidential election, Hillary Clinton and the Democrat Party was offering open borders mass immigration, amnesty for illegal alien infiltrators and more multicultural mayhem. White voters went with the candidate who promised to deport illegal alien infiltrators, dramatically reduce legal immigration and build a wall on the border between the United States and Mexico.

    President Trump had the brains and balls to win the votes of WWCDs and the ability as a billionaire to maintain many of the votes of upper middle class White voters. Now Hillary Clinton stalks around her imperial compound in the mostly White town of Chappaqua, New York in an alcoholic frenzy induced by her bitterness at having been denied the presidency by Donald John Trump and his army of Whites Without College Degrees.

    • Replies: @anonymous

    his army of Whites Without College Degrees.
     
    Or, in other words, poorly educated losers.

    Is that supposed to be a badge of honour for the orange ogre? (rhetorically speaking :))

  60. Identity politics carves up society into oppressors and the oppressed.

    Guess who the oppressors are?

    If Dems and leftists continue with the anti-white rhetoric, it means they have not abandoned identity politics.

    I think they can’t help themselves, because they have no other play.

    For this reason, we can expect white-identity politics to accelerate as well.

    Dems are too dumb to understand this, but like I said, they just can’t help themselves.

  61. @Cagey Beast
    White women consider White men their men and the global village to be their village.

    We all naturally think at the social scale of the village but this is doubly true for women. White women don't really care what the Arab, African or Chinese families in the global village do; they care about policing, shaming and (hopefully) uplifting their own children and men. Saudis and Chinese can publicly execute prisoners 'till the cows come home and White ladies will barely wrinkle their little noses but if "that man!" Putin takes his shirt off while fishing then their whole day is ruined. Putin is sort of the brother-in-law of Hillary's cousin in the global village and so it's her job to shame and police him. "I don't care what the Arabs do! In this family we're nice to gays!".

    This White lady world-view is fine and dandy at the level of the literal village but will be the death of us at the level of the mythical global village. Hillary Clinton, Madeline Albright and Samantha Power are the bossy Lady Bountifuls from the manor going around town shaming "their" men and uplifting the poor. Long story short, this is why we need to keep our ladies out of high level politics until they have the friend and enemy distinctions made perfectly clear to them.

    I think your assessment is correct. Whites are the near antithesis of the people directly addressed in Matthew 7: 3-5. Jesus talks about people whose first, and perhaps nearly only, instinct is to focus on even the smallest problem with other folks, and batter them, while ignoring their own much worse faults.

    Whites, meaning in this case Gentiles of European background, tend to be as you note: led by overly socially fastidious women, they will browbeat their own for little motes while ignoring not merely beams, but beams with gigantic spikes smeared in feces, that protrude from the eyes of non-whites and non-Christians.

    Those whites are as screwed up and WRONG as are the people on the other end of the pendulum that Jesus specifically condemns. In fact, whites being this way make those people much worse.

    • Replies: @Kevin C.

    I think your assessment is correct. Whites are the near antithesis of the people directly addressed in Matthew 7: 3-5.
     
    Except, how much of white people being that way is due to the influence of Matthew 7: 3-5 and related?
  62. From the NYT book review:

    she [Hillary] blames racism, too, which she considers inseparable from economic anxiety, because her courting of immigrants and voters of color might have given the impression that she put their economic interests before those of disenfranchised whites.

    This is breathtaking. In one sentence, Senior admits that Clinton “courted” immigrants and colored voters (oops, voter of color) but when white people notice that she is not “courting” them too, that’s racis’!

    How could white voters EVER have gotten that impression from Hillary? (Surely not from reading the Party Line in the NY Times).

  63. @Realist
    "When Did "White" Become an All-Purpose Insult?"

    When stupid whites allowed it.

    Yes, only whites will not only allow their skin color/ethnicity to be used as an insult, many will encourage it.

    • Replies: @Realist
    But how stupid do you have to be to do that?
  64. Then there is interview on CBS with Jane Pauley, where we find Hillary and Jane Pauley blaming the election loss on those darn white people

    “[Trump] was quite successful in referencing a nostalgia that would give hope, comfort, settle grievances, for millions of people who were upset about gains that were made by others because—” Clinton said.

    “What you’re saying is millions of white people,” Pauley said.

    “Millions of white people, yeah,” Clinton replied. “Millions of white people.”

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-what-happened-sunday-morning-jane-pauley/

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    I feel excluded by her remark!
    , @Pericles

    “[Trump] was quite successful in referencing a nostalgia that would give hope, comfort, settle grievances, for millions of people who were upset about gains that were made by others because—” Clinton said.

     

    Those damn deplorables. (Downs another slug.)
  65. Hillary “Baby Boomer Boozehound” Clinton mixes herself up some gin and tonics while stewing in her own juices about having lost the presidency to Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton has two hobbies: Imbibing copious amounts of booze and insulting regular White Americans. Somebody on the campaign should have advised Hillary that constantly attacking White people is a bad strategy.

    Hillary Clinton is a very bitter woman:

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Trump] was quite successful in referencing a nostalgia that would give hope, comfort, settle grievances, for millions of people who were upset about gains that were made by others because—” Clinton said.

    So whites were not upset that income for white men has not budged in 40 years, that instead of good union jobs at high wages in factories and steel mills they now get to work part time for minimum wage at Wal-Mart, that their downtowns look like they have been thru a war, that their youth is dying from opioid overdose. They are just "upset" about "gains made by others" - that's all. (Whites are also not supposed to notice or be upset that the "gains made by others" have been made at their expense by government putting its thumb on the scale.)

    Not only does this woman not deserve to be POTUS, she belong in jail for treason. Putin is an amoral monster in most respects but at least he loves his own people. Hillary is an amoral monster who HATES her own race down to the core of her being. With that hatred as her guiding principle, her every move as POTUS would have lead us to further disintegration. Hillary makes much of the fact that she was much better prepared to be President, with detailed position papers, etc. on every aspect of governance. But all this preparation is for naught if it is all shaped by animus toward your own people.
  66. The whole Clinton quote makes no sense. It is not just the “whiteness” part and not just the fact that Kadyrov doesn’t exactly come across as a repressed minority. Trump had already figured out a way to make billions before entering politics – likely even a couple more than Putin has. Trump has enriched rather than weakened the media. Trump has articulated rather than suppressed dissent.
    Today we are going to witness another attempt at creating a “reality distortion field”. Clinton’s effort will likely be an order of magnitude less successful than that commercial endeavor over in Cupertino.

  67. • Replies: @anon
    blacks do worse than that every day in the U.S. (and where was Tiny Dick?)

    blacks also rape ~75 white women per day and the reverse almost never happens
    , @fish

    The word for the day is"bigamy".

    Let's use that in a sentence.

    "I gave my wife $20.....dat was bigamy."

    - Leonard Pitts
     
    , @Elli
    Where do you get the idea that Brazilian gold miners are white?

    Or do you just blame white people's endless appetite for gold?

    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/807903620625112582/

  68. @Lot
    Before "white" was an insult, it was "white bread."

    I recall Welcome Back, Kotter’s POC characters using that term a lot. Informally, it seemed to be a bigger hit among Jewish people. Myself, it just made me think: I’m supposed to enjoy a sitcom that insults me? (which is different from one making a funny ethnic joke.)

  69. “But is it any surprise then that not enough white people voted for Hillary to make her President?”

    She even lost the white sisterhood, but she seems incapable of any self reflection as to what mistakes may have contributed to her loss.

  70. @NickG
    Steve Bannon, in his recent 60 mins interview, said that Hillary is not very bright. I think he is right.

    Combine this with her being in a filter bubble, it seems likely that she, and hopefully the Dems too, cannot resist doubling down on identity politics, with whites as the bogey man. Being whites themselves, they see being ostentatiously anti white as a status symbol. They are running some weird combination of primate dominance display, combined with a bird of paradise like virtue signal. No doubt Jordan Peterson could wax lyrical on what's going on.

    They seem not to understand cause and effect....of karma. Identity politics begets identity politics and whites are, ever so gently for now, starting to play. The Dems themselves have and still are strategically facilitating the Sailer strategy. Many of us badwhites think this is wonderful, it's certainly entertaining.

    Steve Bannon points out that many of the brighter pinkoes know this doubling down on identity politics is an error. But it seems likely that the identity politics push has gotten an unstoppable momentum of its own. Hopefully they will pick another POC as their next leader, here's hoping for Kamala Harris.

    The Bannon interview was fun to watch. I wish they'd just played the full thing without editing. I guess that's too much to expect.

    Steve Bannon, in his recent 60 mins interview, said that Hillary is not very bright. I think he is right.

    I do love Bannon. That was probably the single best way to get a rise out of that self-important, self-aggrandizing female dog.

  71. @Tiny Duck
    Because whites have unearned privileges that are greater than their contributions

    Leonard Pitts and verysmartbrothas have written extensively on how white men continue to murder People of Color. Complaining about "anti white" stuff contributes to white supremacy. You guys are traitors tearforists and fake Americans. America is about freedom justice and the fight against racism

    You people need to get out. America does not want or need you

    As any Person of Color will tell you white men take credit for inventing things they stole from People of Color

    Also white wonen are increasingly bearing Children of Color. I cannot wait for just stick to be served

    Tearrorist is a new word for crybully. I approve!

  72. To me, a milestone in the public shaming of whites came at the conclusion of Pres. Obama’s first inaugural. The benediction by Rev. Joseph Lowery ended on the following note:

    “Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around — (laughter) — when yellow will be mellow — (laughter) — when the red man can get ahead, man — (laughter) — and when white will embrace what is right.
    “Let all those who do justice and love mercy say amen.”
    AUDIENCE: “Amen!”
    REV. LOWERY: “Say amen –”
    AUDIENCE: “Amen!”
    REV. LOWERY: “— and amen.”
    AUDIENCE: “Amen!” (Cheers, applause.)

    Everyone on the coalition of fringes recognized this as a cock-a-doodle-doo of victory over “the Man.” (On the broadcast I watched [not the one linked below] you could hear and see former VP Gore whooping it up the most, in a telling little moment of schadenfreude.) Rev. Lowery (no relation to Rich, I believe) himself became a minor celebrity (for the quarter-hour following; having served his function he was promptly forgotten).

    In the room where I watched the ceremony, most everyone oohed and aahed at the funny-old-black-reverend-who-tells-it-like-it-is (TM). I was the only one to call it disgraceful to strike a note of racial animus in a presidential inaugural.

    What really irked me was that anyone would waste the occasion by regurgitating such stale, sing-song doggerel. But the great and good loved it; and public prayer has been amateur hour ever since.

    Here’s a transcript and video link:
    ‪http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/stevenwaldman/2009/01/rev-lowery-inauguration-benedi.html‬

    • Replies: @Marat Said
    "stale, sing-song doggerel", good one.

    It's how I imagine Cornel West's recent chant as the 2017 Convocation speaker at Harvard Divinity School, which he called: Spiritual Blackout, Imperial Meltdown, Prophetic Fightback.
  73. @Stephen Paul Foster
    It is interesting to speculate on just when this -- "the increasingly gratuitous usage among white elites of the word 'white' as an insult" -- happened.

    My theory is that Obama's eight year reign of terror was the imprimatur the good whites needed to turn "white" into a moral stigma. Completely aligned with Obama (the black super-hero) was the massive block of opinion-attitude entities -- MSM, entertainment industry, academia. Obama's presidency -- so the story-line goes -- was not only wonderful, but inevitable. And so, it is now time for whites to quit complaining, except their inferior status and step aside. The insults are embedded in the new progressive order, part of the pay back. Hillary tried to be Obama II but for obvious reasons couldn't pull it off. The Dems now are shopping around to find a more suitable choice for 2020. Recently I saw a piece by Douglas Schoen, former Clinton pollster, in the Hill, I think, "arguing" that Michelle Obama is the best Democrat to beat Trump. Makes sense, sort of.

    See: https://www.amren.com/news/2017/03/exterminationist-left-happy-trails-zimbabwe/

    • Replies: @Detective Club
    What are they smoking?
  74. @Cwhatfuture
    Then there is interview on CBS with Jane Pauley, where we find Hillary and Jane Pauley blaming the election loss on those darn white people

    "[Trump] was quite successful in referencing a nostalgia that would give hope, comfort, settle grievances, for millions of people who were upset about gains that were made by others because—" Clinton said.

    "What you're saying is millions of white people," Pauley said.

    "Millions of white people, yeah," Clinton replied. "Millions of white people."

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-what-happened-sunday-morning-jane-pauley/

    I feel excluded by her remark!

  75. I’ll say mid 1990’s.

    I distinctly recall watching David Letterman one night. A show staffer, a clean-cut, well-dressed, well-coiffed red-headed male who did cameos in some of the comedy bits with Letterman was mugging up close to a camera “on the street”.

    The show’s director made the red-headed clean-cut adult white male appear mildly clownish.

    Dave’s line at that moment, “you look like the legal definition of a white guy”.

    Crowd laughs . . . I distinctly recall feeling a “WTH” feeling at that moment, I knew that was all just wrong but did not know why.

    In hindsight, I can recall such things have steadily worsened ever since.

    “White” was carefully re-made into the new “N” word. And made a socially accepted epithet. The entertainment industry has been very industrious at that.

    A step further – if a show, let’s say the movie “Dunkirk”, is filled with White people, we have been conditioned to think something is wrong – simply by the presence of “too many” White people.

    And the concept of “too many White people” is a moving goalpost. Moving to run us over.

  76. @NickG
    Steve Bannon, in his recent 60 mins interview, said that Hillary is not very bright. I think he is right.

    Combine this with her being in a filter bubble, it seems likely that she, and hopefully the Dems too, cannot resist doubling down on identity politics, with whites as the bogey man. Being whites themselves, they see being ostentatiously anti white as a status symbol. They are running some weird combination of primate dominance display, combined with a bird of paradise like virtue signal. No doubt Jordan Peterson could wax lyrical on what's going on.

    They seem not to understand cause and effect....of karma. Identity politics begets identity politics and whites are, ever so gently for now, starting to play. The Dems themselves have and still are strategically facilitating the Sailer strategy. Many of us badwhites think this is wonderful, it's certainly entertaining.

    Steve Bannon points out that many of the brighter pinkoes know this doubling down on identity politics is an error. But it seems likely that the identity politics push has gotten an unstoppable momentum of its own. Hopefully they will pick another POC as their next leader, here's hoping for Kamala Harris.

    The Bannon interview was fun to watch. I wish they'd just played the full thing without editing. I guess that's too much to expect.

    In lieu of applauding you for all the many excellent points you touch upon, let me commend you for the first one which you make : Hillary is not all that bright and never was. The only thing that she had in abundance was LUCK, along with a hell of a lot of sheer nerve.

    She was lucky not to wind up in an orange jumpsuit before the Dem. Convention in 2016. She had much to thank Lynch and Comey for that Tank Job, back then. A Republican would have wound up under the jail if he or she had committed a mere fraction of the crimes of Hillary Clinton. Let’s remember and not forget the bribes she took from Tyson Chicken in 1977-79, laundering the kickback money through the Chicago Mercantile Exchange.

    On Nov. 8, 2016, Trump beat her by a combined vote of about 70,000 in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. A minor miracle of yuge proportions. Hillary’s LUCK had finally run out.

  77. Trump does not seem to have responded to Clinton’s many insults in the book.

    That’s mighty white of him.

    • LOL: Sarah Toga
  78. White Bitch.

    At any rate, she didn’t create the Zeitgeist.

  79. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Reason #4,332 why we’re truly blessed to have dodged the bullet by not having this drunken creature as our president. The resentment really oozes through as she lowers her mask. What a nightmare we’d be living through right now. What’s with this dogged Putin-hate? He’s the leader of a country and does what he’s supposed to do on their behalf. He didn’t kowtow to the US so he’s bad? It seems personal and visceral. Perhaps him being seen shirtless astride a horse triggered some weird psycho-sexual reaction in her. Ever seen a photo of her husband Bill shirtless? He looked like a marshmallow with some legs and arms sticking out, before the current AIDS looking days. This aging dyke really hates white men with a passion.

  80. @JackOH
    Let me try for a "big picture-y" rationale for White as a negative intensifier. Reductio ad Hitlerum.

    The Greatest Generation returns from WWII congratulating itself for having whooped Hitler's arse. Unable to disinterestedly view Hitler's early career as a fairly benign and successful architect of national revival and national solidarity, that Greatest Generation itself becomes vulnerable to charges of racial animus and imperial aggrandizement lodged by America's Left who see their main chance in the Greatest Generation's complacency, even smugness. Bewildered, the Greatest Generation, ordinary men and women with traditional ties to church and family and country, are ideologically equated with the Hitler they defeated. Hitler, of course, was cheerleader for a political party with a virulent and explicit racialist wing.

    America's Left saw its opportunity in eliding the difference between most Whites' cordial but wary relations between Blacks, and the Nazis' attitude toward disfavored underclasses.

    So White equals negative intensifier . . . because Hitler and Nazis. The chances of some national reevaluation of Hitler and the Nazis, which is what might be needed to end the plague of nasty and unending Leftishness, is probably zip point squat because of its massive unpalatability.

    Morning coffee's kicking in. Thanks for allowing this comment.

    Why did/does the US vilify Hitler and Himler but not Hirohito and Tojo?
    I would guess for the same reason that Einstein encouaged the development of the atomic bomb to be used against Germany but regretted it’s used against Japan.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I would guess for the same reason that Einstein encouaged the development of the atomic bomb to be used against Germany but regretted it’s used against Japan.

    Einstein was a "peace-loving" man. Seriously. Some years ago, two kids in my son's 3rd grade class did biography book reports on Einstein, anad both kids mentioned that Einstein was "peace-loving." I thought it was very odd.

    , @AndrewR
    Because the Japanese were neither subject to nor rebellious against Ashkenazi Supremacy.
  81. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Before “white” was an insult, it was “white bread.”
     
    The trope lives on! In name-brand form here:

    Slated to play Che Guevara is Constantine Maroulis, a former “American Idol’’ contestant who earned a Tony Award nomination for his performance on Broadway in “Rock of Ages.’’ Maroulis is Greek-American. In a recent Globe interview, Maroulis said he believes concerns about him playing Che are not justified. Saying “I’m not exactly a loaf of Wonder Bread,’’ he cited the discrimination encountered by his grandparents when they immigrated to the United States.
     

    Guevara was white, an Argentine of Spanish and Irish extraction.

    What the Hell is wrong with these people? This stuff is empirical and uncontroversial; they are literally defying reality.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Lol. If leftists had any respect for reality, they wouldn't be leftists. But for reasons probably more complex than anyone may be aware of, Americans of all ethnicities tend to lump all Latinos together racially. And many white Latinos try to exploit this for their own benefit. See: Rubio, Little Marco
    , @AndrewR
    Having said all that, it is kinda surprising that in a city as huge and cosmopolitan as Boston that the casting directors were unable to find an Argentinian of similar ethnic background to play Che, or at least an American with Che's approximate admixture.
    , @Jack D
    Here is a picture of young Che (left) with his family - they look pretty "white bread" to me:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Chefamily.jpg

    In accordance with Spanish naming customs (father's name then mother's) his father was named
    Ernesto Guevara y Lynch - in other words Che was a "Lynch" thru his paternal grandmother. It's unclear (at least to me) how long the Lynches resided in Argentina - some sources trace him to Patrick (Patricio) Lynch who arrived in Argentina in the 18th century while others point to more recent ancestry.

    By appearance the Guevaras didn't have a lot of Irish in them and I am guessing were mostly Spanish (but very little if any Amerindian). The Argentine lower classes all identify as "Spanish" but in fact, especially once you get outside of Buenos Aires, have a great deal of Indian blood (which they pretend not to notice), but the upper classes (like Che) tend to be mostly or all European (albeit Southern European ).
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Guevara was white, an Argentine of Spanish and Irish extraction.
     
    I think we should get in the habit of calling him "Che Lynch," which is of course his true surname.
    , @songbird
    When a POC entertainer says something anti-white that equals self-promotion.

    Classic example Whoopi Goldberg. She heard about Star Trek TNG from Levar Burton (who had been in Roots and now was chief engineer). She told him to ask about her getting a role. She was ignored, until she made the call and was given the courtesy of a meeting. She asked if there was only one black guy who was a lieutenant in Roddenberry's hopeful future. She got a role, which they created for her, after her complaint. Not just any role but an all-wise, quasi-immortal black lady with mysterious powers.
  82. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    That's the problem that the Dems are running into these days. Blacks, Hispanics, even Muslims are demanding to be front and center in the party leadership and to be the candidates. White men, Jews and white women are being pushed out.

    It was one thing having Bill Clinton or Schumer or Biden chiding whites and talking about white privilege. It's another to have Tony Perez or Keith Ellison talking about black and Hispanic pride while telling working class whites that they are terrible.

    Obama got away with it in part because of his personality (a well-spoken black who frankly didn't act like other blacks) and in part because he was the first PoC to get elected to high office. But even his racial animus came out over time, and it rubbed whites the wrong way.

    Whites won't have as much patience the next time around, nor will the PoC messenger likely be as smooth as Obama.

    It's a major problem for the Dems. Luckily for them, the GOP would rather perish than stand up for whites so the Dems will be just fine because it's hard to lose if you don't have an opponent.

    Yeah – if the GOP was smart, they could continue to win the presidency just due to the erosion of white support for the Democrats alone. Even smarter would be to adopt the strategy Sailer has put forth of encouraging the perception of the Dems as a party primarily concerned with black Americans and force Hispanic voters to choose between that and the GOP as an alternative. You need a Rove or a Stone for that, and frankly the GOP doesn’t really have a master political architect right now, but neither do the Dems.

    • Replies: @Rod1963
    The GOP just wants Trump gone, period.

    The fact is the GOP has never liked the white blue collar or middle-class people at all. They just happened to throw them a bone once in a while but that's it. It's a country club for upper class professionals and grifters.

    Take a look at their economic policies since GHW Bush - screw the little guy and cater to the wealthy, support globalization and off-shoring of industry and keep the borders open.

    As a party they didn't like outsiders like Reagan or Trump anymore than the DNC liked Carter(they hated him as much as the GOP hates Trump). It's a culture thing. Reagan and Trump were mainstream Americans in terms of thinking and values. They never fit in the hallowed halls of the Hamptons or Greenwich.

    And they are quite content on committing political suicide to get rid of Trump because they don't care if they end up a permanent rump party as long as they get payolla.

    In short don't view them as Americans because they are not, they are merely self-serving swindlers.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    You need a Rove for what? For making the GOP the white party? Rove was an open borders, anti-Trump fanatic.
  83. @Anonymous

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/09/british-conductor-sacked-us-music-festival-joke-labelled-racist/

    British conductor sacked by US music festival after 'innocent' joke with his African-American friend was labelled racist

    Patrick Sawer
    9 SEPTEMBER 2017

    An acclaimed British conductor has been fired from a prestigious American music festival after a seemingly innocent joke he made to a black friend was labelled racist.

    Matthew Halls was removed as artistic director of the Oregon Bach Festival following an incident in which he imitated a southern American accent while talking to his longstanding friend, the African-American classical singer Reginald Mobley.

    It is understood a white woman who overheard the joke reported it to officials at the University of Oregon, which runs the festival, claiming it amounted to a racial slur.

    Shortly after Halls, who has worked with orchestras and opera houses across Europe and the US, was told by a university official his four year contract, which was to have run until 2020, was being terminated.

    Mobley, a countertenor who regularly performs in the UK, has now spoken out to defend his friend, saying there was nothing racist about the joke and describing the university’s apparent treatment of Halls as deeply unjust.

    “He has been victimised and I’m very upset about it,” he told The Sunday Telegraph. ”It was an innocent joke that has been entirely taken out of context.”

    The incident comes amid heightened sensitivity over race in the US, with renewed protest over police brutality, institutional racism and the re-emergence of white supremacists.

    It also coincides with the rise of what some have dubbed ‘the snowflake generation’ and the debate over whether the demand for ‘safe spaces’ on campus stifles debate and free speech or simply protects minorities from abuse and discrimination.

    But Mobley maintains that while racism should be challenged and ethnic groups made aware of each other’s sensitivities, his friend has been the victim of misunderstanding and overreaction.

    Halls and Mobley had been chatting at a reception held last month during this year’s Oregon Bach Festival, when the subject turned to a concert in London in which Mobley had performed.

    The singer, who was born and raised in the southern state of Florida, said the concert had an “antebellum” feel to it, of the sort associated with Gone With the Wind and other rose-tinted representations of the pre-Civil War south.

    In response Mobley says that Halls “apologised on behalf of England”, before putting on an exaggerated southern accent and joking: “Do you want some grits?”, in a reference to the ground corn dish popular in the south.

    “I’m from the deep south and Matthew often makes fun of the southern accent just as I often make fun of his British accent,” said Mobley. “Race was not an issue. He was imitating a southern accent, not putting on a black accent, and there was nothing racist or malicious about it.”

    But the singer suspects that a white woman who overheard their conversation and spoke to him moments later went on to report it to the university, alleging Halls had made a racist joke.

    An internal inquiry into the incident is understood to have been held as a result of the complaint.

    However, Mobley was not invited to give evidence and he says there is a deep irony in the fact the authorities appear to have assumed on his behalf that he would have objected to the joke.

    “I’m the subject of a falsified story, without having the chance to have my say,” he said. “My voice has been taken away in a conversation about race that involved me, and technically that’s racist.”

    Pressure on the festival organisers to reinstate Halls is growing, with from others musicians coming to his support.

    Meanwhile Mobley fears his friend’s career will suffer after being tarnished with the incendiary label of racism.

    “Matthew is obviously upset, and part of his anger would have to come from the fact he’s been accused of saying something so insensitive to a close friend,” said Mobley.

    The singer, who will perform in Purcell's King Arthur with the Academy of Ancient Music at London’s Barbican next month, says that while he appreciates the efforts of some white people to confront racism, he warns it can lead to wrong headed assumptions.

    “A lot of our allies have become so eager to help the race and fix the scars they almost go too far,” said Mobley. “They think they are at the point where they understand racism more than those who have really encountered it in their lives and they make assumptions on our behalf about how we might feel, as if we don’t understand when something said to us or done to use is racist.

    “It’s well meaning, but the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

    “It also demeans and cheapens the very serious work done by civil rights activists and abolitionists to have the difficult nuances of racism and microaggressions taken seriously.”

    Responding to the claims a spokesman for Oregon Bach Festival, said: “The University considers many factors when deciding whether to continue a contract. Regarding Reggie Mobley, it doesn’t appear he was involved in the University’s decision. Having said that, it would be inappropriate for the University to disclose details about a personnel matter.

    “While I anticipate that more information will be available soon, I’m afraid that’s all I can say on the matter right now.”

     

    Educated white women are a big part of the problem. Fortunately non-gelded white men now have an option: yellow women.

    I love watching them eat their own.

  84. @JW Bell
    Those are photos of a high school youth program, http://www.lapdcadets.com

    And here are the cadets: slideshow here, sample here.

    Wow, LA is brown.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    Can't see a white cadet, bodes well for the future of law enforcement in California.
  85. @Charles Pewitt
    Hillary "Baby Boomer Boozehound" Clinton mixes herself up some gin and tonics while stewing in her own juices about having lost the presidency to Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton has two hobbies: Imbibing copious amounts of booze and insulting regular White Americans. Somebody on the campaign should have advised Hillary that constantly attacking White people is a bad strategy.

    Hillary Clinton is a very bitter woman:

    https://twitter.com/BobNotBob/status/906178247414644737

    Trump] was quite successful in referencing a nostalgia that would give hope, comfort, settle grievances, for millions of people who were upset about gains that were made by others because—” Clinton said.

    So whites were not upset that income for white men has not budged in 40 years, that instead of good union jobs at high wages in factories and steel mills they now get to work part time for minimum wage at Wal-Mart, that their downtowns look like they have been thru a war, that their youth is dying from opioid overdose. They are just “upset” about “gains made by others” – that’s all. (Whites are also not supposed to notice or be upset that the “gains made by others” have been made at their expense by government putting its thumb on the scale.)

    Not only does this woman not deserve to be POTUS, she belong in jail for treason. Putin is an amoral monster in most respects but at least he loves his own people. Hillary is an amoral monster who HATES her own race down to the core of her being. With that hatred as her guiding principle, her every move as POTUS would have lead us to further disintegration. Hillary makes much of the fact that she was much better prepared to be President, with detailed position papers, etc. on every aspect of governance. But all this preparation is for naught if it is all shaped by animus toward your own people.

  86. @bob sykes
    Ironically, the future of the Democrat Party is Tom Perez and Keith Ellison. Whites like Clinton, Pelosi and Schumer have no future in that party other than as field honkies.

    Whites like Clinton, Pelosi and Schumer have no future in that party other than as field honkies.

    field honkies! That’s great.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke

    field honkies! That’s great.
     
    Wouldn't house crackas be more appropriate?
  87. @TheBoom
    Yes, only whites will not only allow their skin color/ethnicity to be used as an insult, many will encourage it.

    But how stupid do you have to be to do that?

  88. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Langley
    Why did/does the US vilify Hitler and Himler but not Hirohito and Tojo?
    I would guess for the same reason that Einstein encouaged the development of the atomic bomb to be used against Germany but regretted it's used against Japan.

    I would guess for the same reason that Einstein encouaged the development of the atomic bomb to be used against Germany but regretted it’s used against Japan.

    Einstein was a “peace-loving” man. Seriously. Some years ago, two kids in my son’s 3rd grade class did biography book reports on Einstein, anad both kids mentioned that Einstein was “peace-loving.” I thought it was very odd.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Einstein was in fact a pacifist. The only reason he signed the famous letter to Roosevelt which got the ball rolling on the Manhattan Project was that his fellow emigres were able to convince him that the Germans were working on nuclear weapons and it would be very bad for Hitler to get atomic weapons first. The 2nd half of that is true, but it turns out that the Germans for whatever reason did not get very far on nuclear weapons.

    "Whatever reason" might include the fact that they considered much of the important theoretical underpinnings to be Jüdische Physik and therefore off limits from consideration in weapons design and the fact that many of their most important nuclear scientists were Jewish and therefore not able to participate in the effort.
    , @Jack D
    Einstein was in fact a pacifist. The only reason he signed the famous letter to Roosevelt which got the ball rolling on the Manhattan Project was that his fellow emigres were able to convince him that the Germans were working on nuclear weapons and it would be very bad for Hitler to get atomic weapons first. The 2nd half of that is true, but it turns out that the Germans for whatever reason did not get very far on nuclear weapons.

    "Whatever reason" might include the fact that they considered much of the important theoretical underpinnings to be Jüdische Physik and therefore off limits from consideration in weapons design and the fact that many of their most important nuclear scientists were Jewish and therefore not able to participate in the effort.
    , @Jack D
    Einstein was in fact a pacifist. The only reason he signed the famous letter to Roosevelt which got the ball rolling on the Manhattan Project was that his fellow emigres were able to convince him that the Germans were working on nuclear weapons and it would be very bad for Hitler to get atomic weapons first. The 2nd half of that is true, but it turns out that the Germans for whatever reason did not get very far on nuclear weapons.

    "Whatever reason" might include the fact that they considered much of the important theoretical underpinnings to be Jüdische Physik and therefore off limits from consideration in weapons design and the fact that many of their most important nuclear scientists were Jewish and therefore not able to participate in the effort.
  89. @Declane
    Just out of curiosity I googled the president of Mexico to see how white he looked. He looks as white as the average Italian-American in my neighborhood. It's funny how people talk about Mexicans and racism and all that without ever acknowledging that there are basically two races in Mexico - the ones with a drop of native blood and the ones with a bucket.

    But he is 5'7" so at least he shows his solidarity with his lessers by not reaching his full European height.

    The Mexican elites, who tend to be much whiter than the average Mexican, promote the colonization of the US and interference in its policies. They get to export their surplus population, reduce political pressure on the Mexican government to fix problems in Mexico, get money injected into the economy through remittances and get increased political control of their northern colony.

    It’s hard to blame Mexican elites for this. It’s a win/win/win for them. And obviously certain Americans benefit from having tens of millions of (relatively) docile, hard-working Mexicans who don’t demand high wages. But there are tens of millions of Americams who don’t benefit in any way from Mexican colonization yet still support it wholeheartedly. SUPPORT OUR DREAMERS WOOOOOOOO!!!

  90. Oh man, Hillary’s accusations reads like a laundry list of the reasons why she (and the Dems in general) lost—and will continue to lose, at this pace.

    We’ve got:

    Identity politics – check!
    Russian narrative – check!
    Secret neo-Nazi/white supremacist – check!

    I think the only thing she’s missing there is misogyny, but it was impressive enough to pack all that in just a few words. It’s almost like they want Trump to win again in 2020.

  91. @Autochthon
    Guevara was white, an Argentine of Spanish and Irish extraction.

    What the Hell is wrong with these people? This stuff is empirical and uncontroversial; they are literally defying reality.

    Lol. If leftists had any respect for reality, they wouldn’t be leftists. But for reasons probably more complex than anyone may be aware of, Americans of all ethnicities tend to lump all Latinos together racially. And many white Latinos try to exploit this for their own benefit. See: Rubio, Little Marco

    • Replies: @guest
    "for reasons probably more complex..."

    No, they are garden-variety who/whom reasons.
  92. @George
    The 2 black ladies that won the US Open had the WASPiest names ever, Sloane Stephens and Madison Keys. With 13 yro Cori Gauff almost winning the girls open. Compare with old timers Serena Jameka and Venus Ebony Starr Williams. Note: Keys passes the 1 drop test.

    Madison Keys looks a little like Cheryl Crow.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    I'm sure it was an innocent typographical error, but I must remark that "Cheryl Crow" impresses me as a pornographic actress' attempt to capitalise on Sheryl Crow's popularity.

    What ever happened to Brittnee Spears after her AVN-award-winning scene with Kevin Feederlines and Mandee Moar?

    (Okay, okay; I won't quit my day-job....)
    , @Detective Club
    ...but with a hideous overbite and a lantern chin.
  93. @BB753
    No ideas except maybe turn it into a video-game. California can't be fixed anymore.

    Buckets of Chinese (and soon Indian) money say otherwise.

    • Replies: @BB753
    When was the last time a construction bubble went wrong?
  94. @Peter Akuleyev
    Arguably in this case Hillary is trying to play up the story that Putin is some kind of "white nationalist". Erdogan is also ethnically/genetically very much a "white" guy but I can't imagine Hillary calling him a "white authoritarian."

    The idea that Putin is a committed ethnic nationalist is a useful myth both for the American left and for the weird white nationalist Putin fanboys who seem to believe it as well. The truth is Putin doesn't give a damn about "white identity", he is a statist.

    He is a Russian nationalist who has invited ethnic Russians back home to get free land in the Far East if they raise a Russian family there. He is a good role model for the type of leader we need but don’t have. We don’t want him as our leader, we want an definitively American version of Putin. Or Netenyahu.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    He has also invited the Chinese to invest there, along with associated immigration, and suppressed the local complaints - since the native white Siberians haven't been very productive with the same land.

    The Alt-Right heads would explode.

    As said, he does what he thinks is right for Russia. Whatever it takes. Ultimately, life for the Russian equivalent of the Appalachians isn't that much better either; he has the same contempt for "unproductive" people as any other elite. One could even argue that isn't a choice when you have to keep competing against the world.

    On the upside, alcohol consumption has been dropping.

  95. @Autochthon
    Guevara was white, an Argentine of Spanish and Irish extraction.

    What the Hell is wrong with these people? This stuff is empirical and uncontroversial; they are literally defying reality.

    Having said all that, it is kinda surprising that in a city as huge and cosmopolitan as Boston that the casting directors were unable to find an Argentinian of similar ethnic background to play Che, or at least an American with Che’s approximate admixture.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Che's father thought his Irish ancestry was predominant in his son's personality.
    , @Jack D
    Just be glad that they got a more or less white guy. The modern casting trend would be to get some Nigerian to play Che.
    , @Hibernian
    Shouldn't be hard to find a Lynch in boston.
  96. I think Trump forced their hand. They being the self hating whites and the Jews. They should have saved their open warfare until the whites were actually a minority. Hillary’s deplorables remark was a bridge too far for the Democrats. Pulling whites into identity politics was premature.

    The political struggle that matters is the Nationalists vs the Globalists/Imperialists. The later want to paint the former as Hitler. It’s a school yard taunt. Answer it in kind. Simply say no. You are Hitler.

  97. @Cwhatfuture
    Then there is interview on CBS with Jane Pauley, where we find Hillary and Jane Pauley blaming the election loss on those darn white people

    "[Trump] was quite successful in referencing a nostalgia that would give hope, comfort, settle grievances, for millions of people who were upset about gains that were made by others because—" Clinton said.

    "What you're saying is millions of white people," Pauley said.

    "Millions of white people, yeah," Clinton replied. "Millions of white people."

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-what-happened-sunday-morning-jane-pauley/

    “[Trump] was quite successful in referencing a nostalgia that would give hope, comfort, settle grievances, for millions of people who were upset about gains that were made by others because—” Clinton said.

    Those damn deplorables. (Downs another slug.)

  98. @Langley
    Why did/does the US vilify Hitler and Himler but not Hirohito and Tojo?
    I would guess for the same reason that Einstein encouaged the development of the atomic bomb to be used against Germany but regretted it's used against Japan.

    Because the Japanese were neither subject to nor rebellious against Ashkenazi Supremacy.

    • Replies: @biz
    Or maybe because Germany surrendered and Japan didn't?
  99. @AndrewR
    Having said all that, it is kinda surprising that in a city as huge and cosmopolitan as Boston that the casting directors were unable to find an Argentinian of similar ethnic background to play Che, or at least an American with Che's approximate admixture.

    Che’s father thought his Irish ancestry was predominant in his son’s personality.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Che's Irish (Lynch) ancestor may have been quite remote - there don't seem to be any good family trees around but it's possible that he was only a small % of Irish. Maybe his personality was "Irish" (rebellious) but his appearance was not. Even in his younger clean cut days he looks European but not distinctly Irish:

    http://www.hey-che.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/10620688_10203495607933806_4705905265320858186_n-227x222.jpg
  100. @eah
    OT

    Inside The Opioid Crisis: What The Mainstream Media Won't Let You See

    http://stockboardasset.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Screen-Shot-2017-09-11-at-9.23.02-AM-1.png

    The dynamic underlying this chart is human labor being replaced by machines. That, along with global Europa realizing that diversity sucks, will drive History (in the Fukuyama sense) during the 21st century.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    Wrong.

    The underlying dynamic here is that in the 1960s Art Sackler brought Valium's patent to the US from the company where his wife worked then became the first ad man in history to rack up $100 million in pharmaceutical sales for a single product.

    He's in the medical advertising hall of fame for that, speaking of monuments that should be torn down.

    http://theweek.com/articles/541564/how-american-opiate-epidemic-started-by-pharmaceutical-company

    He achieved this magnificent accomplishment by turning family doctors into pushers.

    The families were white. The doctors were white. The affected population was white.

    Read the above link. Read it. Read it again. The "whites depressed because of machines" meme is a lie and a distraction. It is deliberate. Don't let yourself be cucked by it. And don't try to cuck others with it.
  101. @Autochthon
    Guevara was white, an Argentine of Spanish and Irish extraction.

    What the Hell is wrong with these people? This stuff is empirical and uncontroversial; they are literally defying reality.

    Here is a picture of young Che (left) with his family – they look pretty “white bread” to me:

    In accordance with Spanish naming customs (father’s name then mother’s) his father was named
    Ernesto Guevara y Lynch – in other words Che was a “Lynch” thru his paternal grandmother. It’s unclear (at least to me) how long the Lynches resided in Argentina – some sources trace him to Patrick (Patricio) Lynch who arrived in Argentina in the 18th century while others point to more recent ancestry.

    By appearance the Guevaras didn’t have a lot of Irish in them and I am guessing were mostly Spanish (but very little if any Amerindian). The Argentine lower classes all identify as “Spanish” but in fact, especially once you get outside of Buenos Aires, have a great deal of Indian blood (which they pretend not to notice), but the upper classes (like Che) tend to be mostly or all European (albeit Southern European ).

    • Replies: @Thea
    There is a small Welsh speaking community in Argentina. Interesting place.
    , @Anonymous
    They don't look "white bread". The connotation of "white bread" is WASPY/northern European looking, rather than white or European in general. The Jersey Shore for example would be white but not "white bread". This is why the actor Maroulis says he's not "Wonder Bread".
  102. @JackOH
    Let me try for a "big picture-y" rationale for White as a negative intensifier. Reductio ad Hitlerum.

    The Greatest Generation returns from WWII congratulating itself for having whooped Hitler's arse. Unable to disinterestedly view Hitler's early career as a fairly benign and successful architect of national revival and national solidarity, that Greatest Generation itself becomes vulnerable to charges of racial animus and imperial aggrandizement lodged by America's Left who see their main chance in the Greatest Generation's complacency, even smugness. Bewildered, the Greatest Generation, ordinary men and women with traditional ties to church and family and country, are ideologically equated with the Hitler they defeated. Hitler, of course, was cheerleader for a political party with a virulent and explicit racialist wing.

    America's Left saw its opportunity in eliding the difference between most Whites' cordial but wary relations between Blacks, and the Nazis' attitude toward disfavored underclasses.

    So White equals negative intensifier . . . because Hitler and Nazis. The chances of some national reevaluation of Hitler and the Nazis, which is what might be needed to end the plague of nasty and unending Leftishness, is probably zip point squat because of its massive unpalatability.

    Morning coffee's kicking in. Thanks for allowing this comment.

    America’s Left saw its opportunity in eliding the difference between most Whites’ cordial but wary relations between Blacks, and the Nazis’ attitude toward disfavored underclasses.

    Some of that.

    Part of it is that “Whites” were marketed as the ultimate can-do class that was going to fix all the world’s problems. That the problems persist leads to blaming and shaming of those in power and a call for their replacement.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    Agree. I'm genuinely baffled by how those very decent men and women who came of age in the 1930s and 1940s were so quickly ensorcelled by some truly nasty and weird ideas that seem to have found a permanent home among Democrats. I'm guessing they were blindsided by Leftists of various stripes who had long viewed their fellow Americans as a sort of enemy of goodthinking. Among some pacifists and Blacks, White Americans were almost surely greater crimethinkers than Hitler because Hitler was there and White Americans were here. You're right there are probably a few other major factors involved, but not a whole lot.

    Having grown up in the prosperous and confident America of the 1950s and 1960s, I guess I'm just tired of seeing so many Americans being scolded like a dog who'd just soiled the carpet by our truly rotten political elites.

  103. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    That's the problem that the Dems are running into these days. Blacks, Hispanics, even Muslims are demanding to be front and center in the party leadership and to be the candidates. White men, Jews and white women are being pushed out.

    It was one thing having Bill Clinton or Schumer or Biden chiding whites and talking about white privilege. It's another to have Tony Perez or Keith Ellison talking about black and Hispanic pride while telling working class whites that they are terrible.

    Obama got away with it in part because of his personality (a well-spoken black who frankly didn't act like other blacks) and in part because he was the first PoC to get elected to high office. But even his racial animus came out over time, and it rubbed whites the wrong way.

    Whites won't have as much patience the next time around, nor will the PoC messenger likely be as smooth as Obama.

    It's a major problem for the Dems. Luckily for them, the GOP would rather perish than stand up for whites so the Dems will be just fine because it's hard to lose if you don't have an opponent.

    “Tony Perez or Keith Ellison talking about black and Hispanic pride while telling working class whites that they are terrible…..Obama got away with it in part because of his personality”

    That’s a very good analysis. It explains the liberal media hysteria – both Dems and GOP establishment are cornered. So they lash out.

    Trump shook the system that was already wobbly. It is not possible to put it back in the box. There are too many ambitious politicians who would pick up the same themes. The best establishment option would be a neutered Trump who betrays his voters.

    The progressives are not very good with numbers. It will be another 20-30 years before they would have the PoC coalition that they seem to think already exists. They live mainly in immigrant-heavy enclaves and, as all simple people, they extrapolate. The liberal dominance depended on pacified and disinterested white voting, that is gone. It is unlikely that even 40% of whites would vote for identity-obsessed Dems. People know when they are not liked. And most pro-Trump part of America are white High School students – they will soon start voting.

    How are Dem candidates going to address the massive white majority of 70-75%? Preaching and accusations, name calling and hatred are not going to get many white votes. Once society is polarized, the largest group prevails.

    • Replies: @Felix...

    The progressives are not very good with numbers. It will be another 20-30 years before they would have the PoC coalition that they seem to think already exists. They live mainly in immigrant-heavy enclaves and, as all simple people, they extrapolate. The liberal dominance depended on pacified and disinterested white voting, that is gone. It is unlikely that even 40% of whites would vote for identity-obsessed Dems. People know when they are not liked. And most pro-Trump part of America are white High School students – they will soon start voting.

    How are Dem candidates going to address the massive white majority of 70-75%? Preaching and accusations, name calling and hatred are not going to get many white votes. Once society is polarized, the largest group prevails.
     

    Texas and Florida. The PoC coalition you describe is already baked into those two states. It's a mathematical certainty that with the passage of at most a decade both states will become irrevocably blue as old GOP Anglos die off and vibrant PoC reach voting age. Whites can win presidential elections with just one of those states if they can continue getting the rust belt, but with both Texas and Florida off the map there is no pathway to the presidency even if Washington state, Minnesota, Oregon and other unlikely-GOP but heavily white states swing right.
  104. George Clooney / Coen Bros violent white people flick:

    Toronto Film Festival: George Clooney ‘felt sick’ shooting Suburbicon
    http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41221390

    Suburbicon Official Trailer #1 (2017) Matt Damon, Oscar Isaac Crime Comedy HD

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    So Clooney and the Coens are coming out with a hipster version of a The Turner Diaries by William Luther Pierce like tale that taps in to the dread that most HUWHITES now have of their future by projecting it back onto what their suburban protestant grandparents faced when they had to fight back all by themselves against the Sicilian Mafia.

    How Profound!!!

    Well given the number of SJW box office disasters "Hollywood" has cranked out in the past year with Dunkirk being the only exception to the trend.....

    Maybe some folks, like Clooney and the Coens, are still smart enough to realize that movies about white folks fighting for their collective survival are the only sure way so make some shekels even if one must hope that the SJW media critics don't notice enough to shut you down.
  105. Did it not begin with Susan Sontag?

    • Replies: @Anonymous IV
    If not Sontag, then Norman Mailer and his infamous "White Negro" essay.
    "Sophisticated" white people romanticizing blacks as more earthy and authentic goes back at least to the 1940s. By extension, it turns into self-hatred of these whites as they disown their parents' musical tastes, etc. It took til the 60s with Mailer and Sontag to openly start inverting the old hierarchy of racial superiority assumptions.
  106. @Anonymous
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is indeed a nationalist, but not a "white nationalist". He is a Russian nationalist. Russians are not all necessarily all that white-there are Asian and Middle Eastern admixtures in much of the Greater Russian population-but VV Putin does not care about that.

    If it's Russian, he's for it. If he thinks it's bad for Russia, he's against it. Very simple.

    He has a simple yardstick. Oh sure, he likes to wield power, and he is no ascetic or monk. He is very wealthy. But if he thinks it's bad for Russia and Russians no amount of money would sway him.

    I think Trump is a decent person in many ways, but Putin is a far more serious, a far more powerful man. I doubt America will ever really have a Putin.

    Damn shame, really.

    Yeah Putin is such a great leader that he’s almost gotten Russian life expectancy back up to soviet levels. What a man!

    • Replies: @AM

    Yeah Putin is such a great leader that he’s almost gotten Russian life expectancy back up to soviet levels. What a man!
     
    I assume life expectancy figures did not include the millions whose lives were shortened by gulags and such in the USSR? That really tended to put a damper on retirement plans.

    I love the snark over leaders who take over nightmarish situations and make them even marginally better.

    "Sure, I probably couldn't have done any better if I were in charge, but this is a great opportunity to minimize any step in the right direction."

    , @Anonymous
    Given what happened actually that is an achievement. He has a long way to go and he knows it, but he's making progress. Only a really intelligent, ruthless, and inner-directed leader would get even that much.
    , @Anatoly Karlin
    Actually considerably above them (currently 72.5 years; peak Soviet level was 69.9 years, in 1987).
  107. @Jack D
    Here is a picture of young Che (left) with his family - they look pretty "white bread" to me:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Chefamily.jpg

    In accordance with Spanish naming customs (father's name then mother's) his father was named
    Ernesto Guevara y Lynch - in other words Che was a "Lynch" thru his paternal grandmother. It's unclear (at least to me) how long the Lynches resided in Argentina - some sources trace him to Patrick (Patricio) Lynch who arrived in Argentina in the 18th century while others point to more recent ancestry.

    By appearance the Guevaras didn't have a lot of Irish in them and I am guessing were mostly Spanish (but very little if any Amerindian). The Argentine lower classes all identify as "Spanish" but in fact, especially once you get outside of Buenos Aires, have a great deal of Indian blood (which they pretend not to notice), but the upper classes (like Che) tend to be mostly or all European (albeit Southern European ).

    There is a small Welsh speaking community in Argentina. Interesting place.

  108. @Tiny Duck
    Because whites have unearned privileges that are greater than their contributions

    Leonard Pitts and verysmartbrothas have written extensively on how white men continue to murder People of Color. Complaining about "anti white" stuff contributes to white supremacy. You guys are traitors tearforists and fake Americans. America is about freedom justice and the fight against racism

    You people need to get out. America does not want or need you

    As any Person of Color will tell you white men take credit for inventing things they stole from People of Color

    Also white wonen are increasingly bearing Children of Color. I cannot wait for just stick to be served

    As any Person of Color will tell you white men take credit for inventing things they stole from People of Color

    Name some examples.

    • Replies: @Tiny Duck
    elevator
    roads
    the constitution
    bathing
    automobile
    fireworks
    gunpowder
    cotton gin
    , @Anonymous
    Pyramids.
    , @Sarah Toga
    don't forget those flying pyramids
  109. @Thea
    He is a Russian nationalist who has invited ethnic Russians back home to get free land in the Far East if they raise a Russian family there. He is a good role model for the type of leader we need but don't have. We don't want him as our leader, we want an definitively American version of Putin. Or Netenyahu.

    He has also invited the Chinese to invest there, along with associated immigration, and suppressed the local complaints – since the native white Siberians haven’t been very productive with the same land.

    The Alt-Right heads would explode.

    As said, he does what he thinks is right for Russia. Whatever it takes. Ultimately, life for the Russian equivalent of the Appalachians isn’t that much better either; he has the same contempt for “unproductive” people as any other elite. One could even argue that isn’t a choice when you have to keep competing against the world.

    On the upside, alcohol consumption has been dropping.

  110. @Autochthon
    Guevara was white, an Argentine of Spanish and Irish extraction.

    What the Hell is wrong with these people? This stuff is empirical and uncontroversial; they are literally defying reality.

    Guevara was white, an Argentine of Spanish and Irish extraction.

    I think we should get in the habit of calling him “Che Lynch,” which is of course his true surname.

  111. @Steve Sailer
    Che's father thought his Irish ancestry was predominant in his son's personality.

    Che’s Irish (Lynch) ancestor may have been quite remote – there don’t seem to be any good family trees around but it’s possible that he was only a small % of Irish. Maybe his personality was “Irish” (rebellious) but his appearance was not. Even in his younger clean cut days he looks European but not distinctly Irish:

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I don't feel like digging too deeply into Che's ancestry or into the genetic studies of the Irish and Spanish people, but there is an interesting genetic link between part of the Irish population and part of the Spanish population.
    , @IBC
    I was going to say that he looks like a cross between a young Reagan and Fred MacMurray, but a younger MacMurray is also a pretty good match:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/14052396062

    And later on, he started to look a little like George Clooney. Che Guevara's looks and early death are a major reason why he's become such an icon. By far, he's the most marketable of Marxists.
  112. @Tiny Duck
    Because whites have unearned privileges that are greater than their contributions

    Leonard Pitts and verysmartbrothas have written extensively on how white men continue to murder People of Color. Complaining about "anti white" stuff contributes to white supremacy. You guys are traitors tearforists and fake Americans. America is about freedom justice and the fight against racism

    You people need to get out. America does not want or need you

    As any Person of Color will tell you white men take credit for inventing things they stole from People of Color

    Also white wonen are increasingly bearing Children of Color. I cannot wait for just stick to be served

    “You people need to get out. America does not want or need you”

    Fine with me. Give us a place to go, and we won’t bother you again. The catch is that you have to agree not to bother us.

    • Replies: @Tiny Duck
    And leave you free to plan and work your evil?

    no thanks

    Plus you have hogged all the resources and must be forced to give it back

    "letting you go" will not accomplish that
  113. @Declane
    Just out of curiosity I googled the president of Mexico to see how white he looked. He looks as white as the average Italian-American in my neighborhood. It's funny how people talk about Mexicans and racism and all that without ever acknowledging that there are basically two races in Mexico - the ones with a drop of native blood and the ones with a bucket.

    But he is 5'7" so at least he shows his solidarity with his lessers by not reaching his full European height.

    Some fraction of Mexicans (I don’t know the figures) are of 100% European descent.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    No one knows the figures because Mexican's self-estimation of their European ancestry is much higher than the actual %. Almost half of Mexicans consider themselves "white" while the real # is much much lower. Probably the actual % that is 100% European (or close to it) is under 10%.
    , @anonymous
    Don't forget that some of the elite in Latin America affect a look to appear less European than they really are. From their tanned skin, to their hairdos, facial hair and clothing, they can diminish their European appearance somewhat.

    For example, here is Don Francisco of latino tv fame. Does he look a little mestizo? I thought he did, so I was surprised to find out that his mother and father had emigrated from Europe to escape WW2. Had this guy been born in the USA, he'd be another Jackie Mason.

    My guess is Vincente Fox, with his 'stache and tan, is trying to look more like the locals than what nature had intended.

    , @Old Palo Altan
    One of the blondest, as well as most beautiful, woman I ever knew was a Mexican. Not only naturally blond, but sky-blue eyes as well.
    When I first met her I asked her how long her family had been in Mexico, ecxpecting her to say that her parents had arrived from Germany in 1945.
    "450 years", she said, "give or take a decade or two".
  114. Who is Jennifer Senior???

    Senior is now married to Mark Horowitz Buzzfeed and NYT opinion columnist, who Senior got to abandon his first wife and kids for her.

    So my question is when Jennifer Senior is using the word “WHITE” or merely quotes Hillary using “WHITE” isn’t the truth that she does not mean “HUWHITE” or even “Bad White” but actually goyim???

    A great come back to the Seniors and to mention Hilary’s of the world would be for Trumpkins to say I am not White or a HUWHITE or even a HUWHITE GUY but a HUWHITE GOY.

    And I have GOY PRIDE, and lots of it.

  115. “white authoritarian”

    Minus a few decades in the 2oth Century of using as civil libertarianism as a stalking horse to advance their unique interests in the public spheres throughout the West, leftists are authoritarians to the core. They just happen to disdain fascism because it’s tied to blood and soil rather than a universalist ideology. That’s why HRC is qualifying the “white” variety as bad.

  116. @Anonymous
    This picture is larger: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBapsirUMAAzdhs.jpg:large

    By the looks there are a lot of fatties in the group. It’s clear physical conditioning isn’t part of the course work.

    When they hit the streets criminals won’t have to worry about foot pursuits.

  117. Hillary Clinton Opens Up About ‘What Happened,’ With Candor, Defiance and Dark Humor

    Hillary inadvertently left the question mark off the title of her book.

    “He seems to want to be like Putin, a white authoritarian leader who could put down dissenters, repress minorities, disenfranchise voters, weaken the press….”

    “I don’t think so.”

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Still funny as ever.

    "That's right"
  118. @Jim Don Bob

    Whites like Clinton, Pelosi and Schumer have no future in that party other than as field honkies.
     
    field honkies! That's great.

    field honkies! That’s great.

    Wouldn’t house crackas be more appropriate?

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    "Field Honkies" is great but how about some more alternatives to go along.

    For example: "Podium Jockey" for when a "white???" beta male stands emasculated, covering his genitals and looking at his shoes, while allowing the strong and sassy black lesbian BLM activists push him aside to take their turns at the mike in accordance to their rights as part of the "progressive stack".

    https://www.google.com/search?q=photo+bernie+sanders+podium+blm&tbm=isch&imgil=sP_oqwszzCGeRM%253A%253BGidxYzzRGYRPEM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.seattletimes.com%25252Fseattle-news%25252Fshould-protesters-have-interrupted-bernie-sanders-rally%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=sP_oqwszzCGeRM%253A%252CGidxYzzRGYRPEM%252C_&usg=__L1PXicIGLYHKqLHuQtU5pLYXeOw%3D&biw=588&bih=323&ved=0ahUKEwi_psX8h6DWAhXm3YMKHSCnDqYQyjcIMw&ei=lgq4Wb-DKOa7jwSgzrqwCg#imgrc=sP_oqwszzCGeRM:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=photo+bernie+sanders+podium+blm&tbm=isch&imgil=sP_oqwszzCGeRM%253A%253BGidxYzzR

    "Field Honky" is a awesome phrase but a little forced in its imagery , but "Podium Jockey" is even more lethal because it comes with an already established cuckoldry image you just can not erase from your brain once you see it. Furthermore it brings to mind a primal fear all men have of being castrated/emasculated by one's opponent or yet ever more dreadful, an otherwise inferior female.

  119. @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    And here are the cadets: slideshow here, sample here.

    Wow, LA is brown.

    Can’t see a white cadet, bodes well for the future of law enforcement in California.

  120. OT: Yet again, from The Financial Times:

    UK farm growth hit as migrant workers fall after Brexit referendum

    Horticultural business forced to raise wages to retain Polish labour in wake of vote

    How did they manage before Poles became available?

    Forced to raise wages? Well, well.

  121. @Anonymous
    Madison Keys looks a little like Cheryl Crow.

    I’m sure it was an innocent typographical error, but I must remark that “Cheryl Crow” impresses me as a pornographic actress’ attempt to capitalise on Sheryl Crow’s popularity.

    What ever happened to Brittnee Spears after her AVN-award-winning scene with Kevin Feederlines and Mandee Moar?

    (Okay, okay; I won’t quit my day-job….)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It wasn't a typo, I guess I just didn't know how to spell her name correctly. I thought something didn't look quite right? :)
  122. @Jack D
    Che's Irish (Lynch) ancestor may have been quite remote - there don't seem to be any good family trees around but it's possible that he was only a small % of Irish. Maybe his personality was "Irish" (rebellious) but his appearance was not. Even in his younger clean cut days he looks European but not distinctly Irish:

    http://www.hey-che.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/10620688_10203495607933806_4705905265320858186_n-227x222.jpg

    I don’t feel like digging too deeply into Che’s ancestry or into the genetic studies of the Irish and Spanish people, but there is an interesting genetic link between part of the Irish population and part of the Spanish population.

    • Replies: @Mike Zwick
    The Galicians of Northern Spain are Celtic just like the Irish, Scots, and Welsh.
  123. @Declane
    Just out of curiosity I googled the president of Mexico to see how white he looked. He looks as white as the average Italian-American in my neighborhood. It's funny how people talk about Mexicans and racism and all that without ever acknowledging that there are basically two races in Mexico - the ones with a drop of native blood and the ones with a bucket.

    But he is 5'7" so at least he shows his solidarity with his lessers by not reaching his full European height.

    Steve coined the term “Conquistador-American” for this phenomenon.

    Part of the implication is that some white Mexican-Americans have managed to claim affirmative action and the right to speak for “oppressed native peoples” while benefiting from a bloodline composed entirely of the oppressors themselves. Win-win!

  124. @jim jones
    Reddit thinks that Chelsea would be a good candidate:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6zm07r/they_will_get_chelsea_to_run_for_literally/

    What are they smoking?

  125. “a white authoritarian leader who could put down dissenters, repress minorities, disenfranchise voters, weaken the press, and amass untold billions for himself”

    Talk about projection on Hillary’s part.

  126. @J1234

    Hillary Clinton Opens Up About ‘What Happened,’ With Candor, Defiance and Dark Humor
     
    Hillary inadvertently left the question mark off the title of her book.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QtWF27OlpA

    “He seems to want to be like Putin, a white authoritarian leader who could put down dissenters, repress minorities, disenfranchise voters, weaken the press...."
     
    "I don't think so."

    Still funny as ever.

    “That’s right”

  127. @MEH 0910

    As any Person of Color will tell you white men take credit for inventing things they stole from People of Color
     
    Name some examples.

    elevator
    roads
    the constitution
    bathing
    automobile
    fireworks
    gunpowder
    cotton gin

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @anon
    you forgot peanut butter

    also, if you're black its a pretty good trade off since africans hadnt even invented the wheel
    , @Father O'Hara
    You're gonna tell me the black man invented gunpowder?? Must've been one Hell of a death toll!
    , @Logan
    elevator
    Many people contributed, but it's generally agreed Otis solved the main problem, safety.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisha_Otis

    roads
    Don't know who "invented" roads, but the Romans are the most famous early practitioners, and they were white.

    the constitution
    Not entirely sure why you included this one. The Founders were all white guys. Or possibly you buy into the nonsense that the Constitution is based on the Iroquois system of government.

    bathing
    Nobody invented bathing, but the Romans again are the most famous early adopters.

    automobile
    Many people contributed, but Ford invented the first one that most people could afford. He was, of course, quite white.

    fireworks
    Invented by the Chinese.

    gunpowder
    Also invented by the Chinese, but white guys figured out how to use it to conquer everybody else.

    cotton gin
    Eli Whitney. White guy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Whitney
  128. @MEH 0910

    As any Person of Color will tell you white men take credit for inventing things they stole from People of Color
     
    Name some examples.

    Pyramids.

  129. @Sgt. Joe Friday
    "You people need to get out. America does not want or need you"

    Fine with me. Give us a place to go, and we won't bother you again. The catch is that you have to agree not to bother us.

    And leave you free to plan and work your evil?

    no thanks

    Plus you have hogged all the resources and must be forced to give it back

    “letting you go” will not accomplish that

    • Replies: @Geschrei

    And leave you free to plan and work your evil?

    no thanks

    Plus you have hogged all the resources and must be forced to give it back

    “letting you go” will not accomplish that

     

    So, you say you want us out of America, but you aren't willing to let us go. It appears to be quite the dilemma.

    Tell us, what's your final solution?
  130. @Anonymous
    Did you see Sergio Dipp's ESPN sideline report from Monday Night Football? I didn't either because I no longer watch the NFL. But anyway, Sergio (who was born in Mexicali, Mexico and attended the University of Monterrey, where he studied communications) highlighted the black coach's diversity and went into an embarrassing commentary.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQoB2flGBa4

    Because it’s ESPN. They’ve been going full SJW for years now, in spite of tanking ratings and financial difficulties.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-28/espn-can-t-afford-to-go-on-like-this

    http://www.businessinsider.com/espns-layoffs-spell-trouble-for-live-sports-2017-3

    They also had a “groundbreaking” female-only announcing crew for the Monday night game, which all non-SJWs thought was terrible.

    ESPN is the Democratic Party of cable channels, ie too arrogant to try to correct their mistakes.

    • Replies: @penskefile

    They also had a “groundbreaking” female-only announcing crew for the Monday night game, which all non-SJWs thought was terrible.
     
    Wait - is Rex Ryan transitioning?? This stuff really is contagious!
    , @Anonymous IV
    I've actually grown to half-way like Doris Burke on NBA broadcasts (doing commentary, not play-by-play) so I consider myself open-minded to the idea, but I thought the MNF broadcast was--well, not terrible, but it wasn't great. There is no doubt the only reason she got that spot was because she was a woman. She doesn't have that great a voice and was at best merely competent. She didn't seem to realize the final kick had been blocked--it was up to the male commentator to point that out--she just said it was missed.
  131. @AndrewR
    Because the Japanese were neither subject to nor rebellious against Ashkenazi Supremacy.

    Or maybe because Germany surrendered and Japan didn’t?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Kabuki theatre, was it? Akin to the staged moon-landing and the pretense the Earth is not flat...?
  132. @Anonymous
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is indeed a nationalist, but not a "white nationalist". He is a Russian nationalist. Russians are not all necessarily all that white-there are Asian and Middle Eastern admixtures in much of the Greater Russian population-but VV Putin does not care about that.

    If it's Russian, he's for it. If he thinks it's bad for Russia, he's against it. Very simple.

    He has a simple yardstick. Oh sure, he likes to wield power, and he is no ascetic or monk. He is very wealthy. But if he thinks it's bad for Russia and Russians no amount of money would sway him.

    I think Trump is a decent person in many ways, but Putin is a far more serious, a far more powerful man. I doubt America will ever really have a Putin.

    Damn shame, really.

    Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is indeed a nationalist, but not a “white nationalist”. He is a Russian nationalist.

    Putin triangulates between economic and ideological blocs, with nationalists being one of several other influential ones.

    Although he throws a bone – not to mention the occasional kick – to Russian nationalists now and then, that does not make him one himself.

  133. @Autochthon
    Guevara was white, an Argentine of Spanish and Irish extraction.

    What the Hell is wrong with these people? This stuff is empirical and uncontroversial; they are literally defying reality.

    When a POC entertainer says something anti-white that equals self-promotion.

    Classic example Whoopi Goldberg. She heard about Star Trek TNG from Levar Burton (who had been in Roots and now was chief engineer). She told him to ask about her getting a role. She was ignored, until she made the call and was given the courtesy of a meeting. She asked if there was only one black guy who was a lieutenant in Roddenberry’s hopeful future. She got a role, which they created for her, after her complaint. Not just any role but an all-wise, quasi-immortal black lady with mysterious powers.

  134. @AndrewR
    Anti-white rhetoric in general seemed to skyrocket around 2012.

    Yep. Just as Obama was catching his stride.

    I noticed it in 2011 when I was hanging around with a Philosophy adjunct professor who’s 7/16 native ancestry, femaleness, Judeophilia, and shameless fag-haggery apparently granted her the privilege to use white as an epithet despite the fact that she looked pretty white and all of her tastes landed squarely in the SWPL category. This must have been fairly early in the explicit white bashing juggernaut because at that time many of her facebook “friends” spoke up in their own defense in reaction to her posts that impugned something as being “so white.” I doubt liberal white facebookers stand up for themselves like that these days.

    • LOL: Joe Sweet
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Only a literal Nazi would object to anti-white rhetoric.
  135. @Frau Katze
    Some fraction of Mexicans (I don't know the figures) are of 100% European descent.

    No one knows the figures because Mexican’s self-estimation of their European ancestry is much higher than the actual %. Almost half of Mexicans consider themselves “white” while the real # is much much lower. Probably the actual % that is 100% European (or close to it) is under 10%.

  136. @Anonymous
    Madison Keys looks a little like Cheryl Crow.

    …but with a hideous overbite and a lantern chin.

  137. @AndrewR
    Having said all that, it is kinda surprising that in a city as huge and cosmopolitan as Boston that the casting directors were unable to find an Argentinian of similar ethnic background to play Che, or at least an American with Che's approximate admixture.

    Just be glad that they got a more or less white guy. The modern casting trend would be to get some Nigerian to play Che.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I recently watched Narcos on Netflix. Let's just say that a significant amount of "whitewashing" was done: characters who IRL were at least noticeably mestizo if not overwhelmingly indio were played by much whiter actors. In one case, there's a general who has a two flashback scenes: one from his childhood and one as a young man. In both the flashback scenes he's played by actors who may actually be 100% non-white, but as a late middle aged man he's played by a man who looks fresh off the boat from Madrid.

    I believe there's also characters played by actors less white than the real people off of whom they're based.

    The most amusing miscasting is of the first two season's main character: Pablo Escobar. Wagner Moura is no less white than Escobar was but not only is he not from Medellin, or Colombia, he's not even a native Spanish speaker.

    One of the Cali Cartel's capos is played by a Portuguese guy too.

    All and all it's a great show but I chuckled at some of the casting choices.
    It's probably relatively immune to SJW rent-seeking given that most [all???] SJWs are really stupid and don't understand racial realities in Latin America.

  138. @Anonymous
    I would guess for the same reason that Einstein encouaged the development of the atomic bomb to be used against Germany but regretted it’s used against Japan.

    Einstein was a "peace-loving" man. Seriously. Some years ago, two kids in my son's 3rd grade class did biography book reports on Einstein, anad both kids mentioned that Einstein was "peace-loving." I thought it was very odd.

    Einstein was in fact a pacifist. The only reason he signed the famous letter to Roosevelt which got the ball rolling on the Manhattan Project was that his fellow emigres were able to convince him that the Germans were working on nuclear weapons and it would be very bad for Hitler to get atomic weapons first. The 2nd half of that is true, but it turns out that the Germans for whatever reason did not get very far on nuclear weapons.

    “Whatever reason” might include the fact that they considered much of the important theoretical underpinnings to be Jüdische Physik and therefore off limits from consideration in weapons design and the fact that many of their most important nuclear scientists were Jewish and therefore not able to participate in the effort.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Do you know what role might Einstein's ideas may have played in the ongoing march toward multiculturalism and open borders? According to a write-up on him on the American Museum of Natural History website:

    Einstein's passionate commitment to the cause of global peace led him to support the creation of a single, unified world government. Einstein thought that patriotic zeal often became an excuse for violence: "As a citizen of Germany," he wrote in 1947, "I saw how excessive nationalism can spread like a disease, bringing tragedy to millions." To combat this "disease," Einstein wanted to eliminate nationalistic sentiments—first by erasing the political borders between countries and then by instituting an international government with sovereignty over individual states. During World War I, Einstein supported the formation of the "United States of Europe." He later endorsed the League of Nations and its successor, the United Nations. But Einstein worried that the United Nations did not have enough authority to ensure world peace.

    Einstein himself seemed to have little regard for national boundaries. His true allegiance was simply to the human race: "I am by heritage a Jew, by citizenship a Swiss, and by makeup a human being, and only a human being, without any special attachment to any state or national entity whatsoever."

    Einstein considered himself a citizen of the world. He lived in several European countries before moving to the United States, and he also traveled extensively, visiting countries including Palestine, Argentina, Brazil, and Uruguay. In 1922, Einstein and his wife Elsa boarded the S.S. Kitano Maru bound for Japan. The trip also took them to other ports including Singapore, Hong Kong, and Shanghai.

    What's somewhat interesting about this view he had of himself is that it fits so neatly with the stereotype - for good or for bad - of the rootless, cosmopolitan Jew. However, this bouncing around from countr to country is not the typical experience for most people. Did he not realize that what was good for him would be seen as a negative by most people?

    Einstein moved to the United States in 1933, after fleeing Nazi Germany. At the time he commented, "As long as I have any choice in the matter, I will live only in a country where civil liberty, tolerance, and equality of all citizens before the law are the rule." He became an American citizen seven years later.

    Einstein saw world government as the only way to ensure lasting world peace. But he was skeptical that an organization like the United Nations—which answered to the national governments of its member states—could prevent future wars. In Einstein's view, world peace would be guaranteed only when the leaders of individual nations answered to a single, supranational government.

    Is multiculturalism and open borders being done with the goal of world peace?

    , @Anonymous
    Before 1943 the Germans didn't think they needed such weapons. After 1942 they realised they didn't have time to develop them.

    They also dropped the ball w.r.t. rocketry and jet propulsion, which were developed into working weapons far later than they should have been.
    , @JerseyJeffersonian
    Jack D,

    One of the reasons that the Germans did not get very far along with development of the atomic bomb was that the British, working in close collaboration with the Norwegian resistance, first sabotaged the Norwegian facility in which they were producing heavy water, but not completely, and then later, after waiting until the Germans had produced several tanker train cars full of heavy water from the plant that then had to be transported on a ferry down a fjord for export to Germany, they then sank the ferry when it was over the deepest part of the fjord (very deep indeed) by means of a bomb aboard the ferry. This cost the lives of innocent Norwegians, but the resistance adjudged this sacrifice to be justified by the result.

    If I remember correctly, the great German physicist, Werner Heisenberg, who had been drafted to explore the potential for such a weapon, but who was secretly horrified by the prospect of putting this at the disposal of the Nazi regime, was also dragging his feet, and slowing down the work.

    So these are two reasons beyond the hard-core Nazi predisposition against Jüdische Physik that the German program did not progress.
  139. @Anonymous
    I would guess for the same reason that Einstein encouaged the development of the atomic bomb to be used against Germany but regretted it’s used against Japan.

    Einstein was a "peace-loving" man. Seriously. Some years ago, two kids in my son's 3rd grade class did biography book reports on Einstein, anad both kids mentioned that Einstein was "peace-loving." I thought it was very odd.

    Einstein was in fact a pacifist. The only reason he signed the famous letter to Roosevelt which got the ball rolling on the Manhattan Project was that his fellow emigres were able to convince him that the Germans were working on nuclear weapons and it would be very bad for Hitler to get atomic weapons first. The 2nd half of that is true, but it turns out that the Germans for whatever reason did not get very far on nuclear weapons.

    “Whatever reason” might include the fact that they considered much of the important theoretical underpinnings to be Jüdische Physik and therefore off limits from consideration in weapons design and the fact that many of their most important nuclear scientists were Jewish and therefore not able to participate in the effort.

    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    “Whatever reason” might include the fact that they considered much of the important theoretical underpinnings to be Jüdische Physik and therefore off limits from consideration in weapons design and the fact that many of their most important nuclear scientists were Jewish and therefore not able to participate in the effort.
     
    They didn't and it wasn't. Nobody outside of a handful of old and ambitious regime-aligned physicists, such as Stark and Lenard, believed all that crap about "jewish physics". Germany didn't lack for scientific and technical talent, even considering the exodus of physicists in the 30s. What they lacked was the material capability. Fighting a war on 1 1/2 - 2 fronts, and occupying most of Europe, and only being a nation of about 90 million (including Austria, and various other german enclaves), they just didn't have the wherewithal for such a massive undertaking. Especially as they were already engaged in another massive weapons program (which, as it happened, had no real military value) - the development of ballistic missiles. Heisenberg and others had concluded early on in the War that developing a nuclear weapon (if it were possible at all) could never be accomplished in time to have any impact on the outcome of the War. I believe they thought that applied to us too.
  140. @Anonymous
    I would guess for the same reason that Einstein encouaged the development of the atomic bomb to be used against Germany but regretted it’s used against Japan.

    Einstein was a "peace-loving" man. Seriously. Some years ago, two kids in my son's 3rd grade class did biography book reports on Einstein, anad both kids mentioned that Einstein was "peace-loving." I thought it was very odd.

    Einstein was in fact a pacifist. The only reason he signed the famous letter to Roosevelt which got the ball rolling on the Manhattan Project was that his fellow emigres were able to convince him that the Germans were working on nuclear weapons and it would be very bad for Hitler to get atomic weapons first. The 2nd half of that is true, but it turns out that the Germans for whatever reason did not get very far on nuclear weapons.

    “Whatever reason” might include the fact that they considered much of the important theoretical underpinnings to be Jüdische Physik and therefore off limits from consideration in weapons design and the fact that many of their most important nuclear scientists were Jewish and therefore not able to participate in the effort.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Einstein was in theory a pacifist, right? In fact he was a military-industrial complex enabler or worse.
  141. @Jack D
    Just be glad that they got a more or less white guy. The modern casting trend would be to get some Nigerian to play Che.

    I recently watched Narcos on Netflix. Let’s just say that a significant amount of “whitewashing” was done: characters who IRL were at least noticeably mestizo if not overwhelmingly indio were played by much whiter actors. In one case, there’s a general who has a two flashback scenes: one from his childhood and one as a young man. In both the flashback scenes he’s played by actors who may actually be 100% non-white, but as a late middle aged man he’s played by a man who looks fresh off the boat from Madrid.

    I believe there’s also characters played by actors less white than the real people off of whom they’re based.

    The most amusing miscasting is of the first two season’s main character: Pablo Escobar. Wagner Moura is no less white than Escobar was but not only is he not from Medellin, or Colombia, he’s not even a native Spanish speaker.

    One of the Cali Cartel’s capos is played by a Portuguese guy too.

    All and all it’s a great show but I chuckled at some of the casting choices.
    It’s probably relatively immune to SJW rent-seeking given that most [all???] SJWs are really stupid and don’t understand racial realities in Latin America.

    • Replies: @Yak-15
    Have you seen Season 3 yet? They feature some full-blown SJW poz with an intimate gay dancing scene with Pacho. It was so unnecessary and so graphic. Really turned me off from watching any more of the show.
  142. @NickG
    Steve Bannon, in his recent 60 mins interview, said that Hillary is not very bright. I think he is right.

    Combine this with her being in a filter bubble, it seems likely that she, and hopefully the Dems too, cannot resist doubling down on identity politics, with whites as the bogey man. Being whites themselves, they see being ostentatiously anti white as a status symbol. They are running some weird combination of primate dominance display, combined with a bird of paradise like virtue signal. No doubt Jordan Peterson could wax lyrical on what's going on.

    They seem not to understand cause and effect....of karma. Identity politics begets identity politics and whites are, ever so gently for now, starting to play. The Dems themselves have and still are strategically facilitating the Sailer strategy. Many of us badwhites think this is wonderful, it's certainly entertaining.

    Steve Bannon points out that many of the brighter pinkoes know this doubling down on identity politics is an error. But it seems likely that the identity politics push has gotten an unstoppable momentum of its own. Hopefully they will pick another POC as their next leader, here's hoping for Kamala Harris.

    The Bannon interview was fun to watch. I wish they'd just played the full thing without editing. I guess that's too much to expect.

    Steve Bannon, in his recent 60 mins interview,

    I’m glad somebody brought up this interview, because I need to unburden myself of a most disquieting sensation. I feel like I’m in The Twilight Zone whenever I hear people on our side talk about how wonderful that interview was, as if one morning I woke up the same and everybody else was different.

    A word to the wise here—that interview was atrocious. Steve Bannon comes across as an unhinged zealot: Bloodshot eyes, interruptive speech, delusions of grandeur. He seems to think he’s still playing some sort of vital role within the Trump administration, although paradoxically from “outside” it. The fact of the matter, as is becoming quite clear, is just the opposite. Bannon was apparently always a marginal figure in Trump’s circle and with Trump’s increasingly establishment drift, there is no longer any use for him. This must have come as a blow to Bannon’s ego. He once thought (and had many others thinking) that he was the indispensable architect of the victorious Trump movement. That idea has turned out to be largely a myth created by himself.

    In compensation, Bannon has taken to running Breitbart as if it were his own personal vanity site. The features now consist of basically two kinds: 1) Articles about Steve Bannon; and 2) Articles about articles about Steve Bannon. This is is recurring theme with Breitbart and is reminiscent of the turbo-gonzo days of Milo Yiannopoulos.

    What’s worse is the actual content of Steve Bannon’s vision for the country. He styles himself as a defender of “radical unity,” meaning that Americans of every race, religion, and sexual orientation will find common cause in his program of economic nationalism.

    It is impossible to overstate how stupid that is. Replace economic nationalism with “muh free market” and there is nothing to distinguish this from the cuckservativism of DR3 and “enterprise zones,” except that Bannon’s version lacks the gibs and graft necessary to actually make the spoils system work.

    Steve Bannon is an epic failure as a statesman. Whether its his grandiose but inaccurate historiographies (“Firing James Comey was the worst mistake in modern political history”) or his cowardly hypocrisy (“We committed the original sin of the Trump administration; we embraced the establishment”), he is an unstable, self-promoting, and self-aggrandizing lunatic who has no place anywhere near the corridors of power.

    • Replies: @NickG

    Steve Bannon comes across as an unhinged zealot:

     

    Yup, to many that would never going to vote Trump. But then few normal - non political junkie - folks, especially swing voters, know who Bannon is!

    Steve Bannon is an epic failure as a statesman
     
    Yup I agree, and in the same vein our host here would be an epic failure transitioning to a career as a female ramp model. I suspect both Steve's share similar levels of expectation of success in each respective profession. Bannon was a behind the scenes geezer; he was never on the cards as a 'statesman'.

    Bannon is, no doubt, a pugnacious bombastic geezer. What his contribution to Trump's ideological underpinnings, or the campaign's against the odds success, is difficult to say on the level of the inside gen most of us here have. What we can say is that Bannon was billed as Trump's Campaign co-ordinator and contrary to most predictions, Trump won.

    Was he fired, was he pushed, did he flounce off, does he feel he can be more effective outside the administration....I suspect it's something of all 4. Does he still have Trump's ear...I suspect not directly.
    , @Vinteuil
    "I feel like I’m in The Twilight Zone whenever I hear people on our side talk about how wonderful [Bannon's] interview was, as if one morning I woke up the same and everybody else was different."

    Maybe your idea of what counts as "our side" isn't very widely shared?

    "Bloodshot eyes" - agreed. He has a face made for radio. So what?

    "Bannon has taken to running Breitbart as if it were his own personal vanity site. The features now consist of basically two kinds: 1) Articles about Steve Bannon; and 2) Articles about articles about Steve Bannon."

    This is a ridiculous falsehood, as even the most cursory visit to the site will reveal.

    "Replace economic nationalism with 'muh free market' and there is nothing to distinguish this from the cuckservativism of DR3 and 'enterprise zones'..."

    Your point here is, as professional philosophers like to say, "under-described."
  143. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Before “white” was an insult, it was “white bread.”
     
    The trope lives on! In name-brand form here:

    Slated to play Che Guevara is Constantine Maroulis, a former “American Idol’’ contestant who earned a Tony Award nomination for his performance on Broadway in “Rock of Ages.’’ Maroulis is Greek-American. In a recent Globe interview, Maroulis said he believes concerns about him playing Che are not justified. Saying “I’m not exactly a loaf of Wonder Bread,’’ he cited the discrimination encountered by his grandparents when they immigrated to the United States.
     

    along those same lines…Here’s George Clooney defending his current movie at the SWPL Olympiad known as the Toronto International Film Festival against charges of tone-deaf portrayal of blacks (and other race issues in Hollywood).

    http://www.indiewire.com/2017/09/george-clooney-interview-suburbicon-diversity-hollywood-1201874750/

    “Of course, Charlottesville happens, because every few years Charlottesville happens again,” he said. “We keep forgetting that we haven’t excised that original sin completely. When I was growing up in Kentucky, the civil-rights movement had its big wave and segregation was exorcised from this country. We really felt like we were on this trajectory toward it all being finished. It wasn’t something you thought would be around. It’s a surprise that it’s still a part of our world.”

    As a filmmaker, Clooney said it took years for him to tackle race because he had yet to find the right project. “A lot of people ask me why I haven’t done any movies about Darfur or South Sudan,” he said, recalling his advocacy in the region. “Well, I haven’t found the script that’s right to do it. My personal life and where I go — philanthropic things — have always been toward whatever is inclusive, not exclusive. That’s always been an important part of my life. It’s just hard to find those films.”

    But Clooney added that he would rather see more minority filmmakers work their way into the industry, echoing the rise of Mexican filmmakers in Hollywood over a decade ago —the so-called “Three Amigos” of Alfonso Cuaron, Alejandro Gonzalez Iñarritu, and Guillermo del Toro, whose “The Shape of Water” just won the Golden Lion at the Venice International Film Festival.

    “All these great Mexican filmmakers showed up, it was like, fuck, this is great filmmaking,” Clooney said. “That’s what I’d like to see… some really interesting young filmmakers out there. You want to feel something fresh and new constantly. You want people pushing the limits. There’s a way to make things much cheaper now so there are a lot of different voices out there.”

    What a nitwit. He apparently thinks because these three Mexican directors have names similar to the guys who do the yard work at his LA mansion that they look like his gardeners too. There’s nothing “minority” about those three amigos unless you are taking the global view and are recognizing that whites are a minority.

    http://www.trbimg.com/img-54e7f3ee/turbine/la-apphoto-fox-s-golden-globe-awards-party1-jpg-20150220/1150/1150×647

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    Of course, famous actor and hypocrite George Clooney recently fled Europe because of diversity:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/07/06/clooney-moving-twins-back-america-security-reasons/
    , @Thea
    Lends credence to the idea you must sell your soul and worship Jewish filmmakers to make it in Hollywood.
  144. OT: From the Albuquerque Journal a new New Mexican starts out on the road to Red Pill City.

    We can do better: You can live with a scofflaw culture, but those of us who don’t are leaving. Good luck!

    • Replies: @res
    She is on the way, but I think she needs to take a field trip to post-Somali Minneapolis:

    I come from Minnesota, land of the Lutheran. In Minnesota, the police pull you over if you are going 5 mph over the speed limit. And there are actually police to pull you over. Drinking and driving? You lose your license the first time. As it should be.
     
    P.S. Agree with it or not that article is a good example of state-level immigriping.
  145. @Johann Ricke

    field honkies! That’s great.
     
    Wouldn't house crackas be more appropriate?

    “Field Honkies” is great but how about some more alternatives to go along.

    For example: “Podium Jockey” for when a “white???” beta male stands emasculated, covering his genitals and looking at his shoes, while allowing the strong and sassy black lesbian BLM activists push him aside to take their turns at the mike in accordance to their rights as part of the “progressive stack”.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=photo+bernie+sanders+podium+blm&tbm=isch&imgil=sP_oqwszzCGeRM%253A%253BGidxYzzRGYRPEM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.seattletimes.com%25252Fseattle-news%25252Fshould-protesters-have-interrupted-bernie-sanders-rally%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=sP_oqwszzCGeRM%253A%252CGidxYzzRGYRPEM%252C_&usg=__L1PXicIGLYHKqLHuQtU5pLYXeOw%3D&biw=588&bih=323&ved=0ahUKEwi_psX8h6DWAhXm3YMKHSCnDqYQyjcIMw&ei=lgq4Wb-DKOa7jwSgzrqwCg#imgrc=sP_oqwszzCGeRM:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=photo+bernie+sanders+podium+blm&tbm=isch&imgil=sP_oqwszzCGeRM%253A%253BGidxYzzR

    “Field Honky” is a awesome phrase but a little forced in its imagery , but “Podium Jockey” is even more lethal because it comes with an already established cuckoldry image you just can not erase from your brain once you see it. Furthermore it brings to mind a primal fear all men have of being castrated/emasculated by one’s opponent or yet ever more dreadful, an otherwise inferior female.

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    About “Podium Jockey”;

    While it is an obvious play on Lawn Jockey, Lawn Jockey is really a misnomer. "Lawn Footman" would have been more correct, since it was the footman's job to help his master dismount his horse or carriage and to walk the horses to the stable for a cool down and put them to down for the night in the stables.

    When middle class first folks moved to the suburbs and still thought as their cars as horseless carriages, the idea of having a symbolic statue posing as a Lawn Jockey or Footman was a nice touch.

    Still the idea of "white???" politician letting POC minorities have the microphone while they stand looking on and emasculated is a powerful image.

    Instead of "Field Honky" I think "House Honky" is better. And it is not just because of the alliteration but because the "House Honky" unlike the "Field Honky" can actually delude himself that people still care about his status and what he has to say.

    Increasingly White???, and especially White Goyim Democrats may delude themselves that what they think matters but they will find themselves viewed as irrelevant by those POC voters that they must have the support of.
  146. @ChrisZ
    To me, a milestone in the public shaming of whites came at the conclusion of Pres. Obama's first inaugural. The benediction by Rev. Joseph Lowery ended on the following note:

    "Lord, in the memory of all the saints who from their labors rest, and in the joy of a new beginning, we ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around — (laughter) — when yellow will be mellow — (laughter) — when the red man can get ahead, man — (laughter) — and when white will embrace what is right.
    "Let all those who do justice and love mercy say amen."
    AUDIENCE: "Amen!"
    REV. LOWERY: "Say amen –"
    AUDIENCE: "Amen!"
    REV. LOWERY: "— and amen."
    AUDIENCE: "Amen!" (Cheers, applause.)

    Everyone on the coalition of fringes recognized this as a cock-a-doodle-doo of victory over "the Man." (On the broadcast I watched [not the one linked below] you could hear and see former VP Gore whooping it up the most, in a telling little moment of schadenfreude.) Rev. Lowery (no relation to Rich, I believe) himself became a minor celebrity (for the quarter-hour following; having served his function he was promptly forgotten).

    In the room where I watched the ceremony, most everyone oohed and aahed at the funny-old-black-reverend-who-tells-it-like-it-is (TM). I was the only one to call it disgraceful to strike a note of racial animus in a presidential inaugural.

    What really irked me was that anyone would waste the occasion by regurgitating such stale, sing-song doggerel. But the great and good loved it; and public prayer has been amateur hour ever since.

    Here's a transcript and video link:
    ‪http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/stevenwaldman/2009/01/rev-lowery-inauguration-benedi.html‬

    “stale, sing-song doggerel”, good one.

    It’s how I imagine Cornel West’s recent chant as the 2017 Convocation speaker at Harvard Divinity School, which he called: Spiritual Blackout, Imperial Meltdown, Prophetic Fightback.

  147. I don’t get it. If she has such a distaste for White Men, why is she still married to Blow Job Bill?

    • Replies: @res

    If sShe has such a distaste for White Men, why is she because she is still married to Blow Job Bill?.
     
    FTFY
    , @black sea
    Bill was, as you may remember, our first African-American president, and Hillary is deluded enough to imagine this affords her some honorary POC status, notwithstanding the fact someone like Sarah Palin is, by comparison to her, practically an indigene.
  148. @Jack D
    Einstein was in fact a pacifist. The only reason he signed the famous letter to Roosevelt which got the ball rolling on the Manhattan Project was that his fellow emigres were able to convince him that the Germans were working on nuclear weapons and it would be very bad for Hitler to get atomic weapons first. The 2nd half of that is true, but it turns out that the Germans for whatever reason did not get very far on nuclear weapons.

    "Whatever reason" might include the fact that they considered much of the important theoretical underpinnings to be Jüdische Physik and therefore off limits from consideration in weapons design and the fact that many of their most important nuclear scientists were Jewish and therefore not able to participate in the effort.

    Einstein was in theory a pacifist, right? In fact he was a military-industrial complex enabler or worse.

    • Agree: AM
  149. @Autochthon
    I'm sure it was an innocent typographical error, but I must remark that "Cheryl Crow" impresses me as a pornographic actress' attempt to capitalise on Sheryl Crow's popularity.

    What ever happened to Brittnee Spears after her AVN-award-winning scene with Kevin Feederlines and Mandee Moar?

    (Okay, okay; I won't quit my day-job....)

    It wasn’t a typo, I guess I just didn’t know how to spell her name correctly. I thought something didn’t look quite right? 🙂

  150. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Frau Katze
    Some fraction of Mexicans (I don't know the figures) are of 100% European descent.

    Don’t forget that some of the elite in Latin America affect a look to appear less European than they really are. From their tanned skin, to their hairdos, facial hair and clothing, they can diminish their European appearance somewhat.

    For example, here is Don Francisco of latino tv fame. Does he look a little mestizo? I thought he did, so I was surprised to find out that his mother and father had emigrated from Europe to escape WW2. Had this guy been born in the USA, he’d be another Jackie Mason.

    My guess is Vincente Fox, with his ‘stache and tan, is trying to look more like the locals than what nature had intended.

    • Agree: Frau Katze
    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez getting in touch with his pure Mexican heritage.
    http://static.highsnobiety.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/19203426/canelo-alvarez-interview-boxing-vs-mma-03-1200x800.jpg

    Or is Conor McGregor actually Mexican?
    http://wrestlingnews.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Conor-McGregor.jpg

  151. Jack D; THREE identical posts??

    With a trembling finger/hand like that, you should get to a doctor and see if it’s Parkinson’s….having trouble with the TV remote or phone dialing?

    A former girlfriend used to send multiple copies of the same email. She got upset when I called them Parkinsonian.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    I have the hands of a surgeon but Bill Gates is in charge of my computer and Comcast is in charge of my internet connection, so I blame one or both of them.
  152. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    Einstein was in fact a pacifist. The only reason he signed the famous letter to Roosevelt which got the ball rolling on the Manhattan Project was that his fellow emigres were able to convince him that the Germans were working on nuclear weapons and it would be very bad for Hitler to get atomic weapons first. The 2nd half of that is true, but it turns out that the Germans for whatever reason did not get very far on nuclear weapons.

    "Whatever reason" might include the fact that they considered much of the important theoretical underpinnings to be Jüdische Physik and therefore off limits from consideration in weapons design and the fact that many of their most important nuclear scientists were Jewish and therefore not able to participate in the effort.

    Do you know what role might Einstein’s ideas may have played in the ongoing march toward multiculturalism and open borders? According to a write-up on him on the American Museum of Natural History website:

    Einstein’s passionate commitment to the cause of global peace led him to support the creation of a single, unified world government. Einstein thought that patriotic zeal often became an excuse for violence: “As a citizen of Germany,” he wrote in 1947, “I saw how excessive nationalism can spread like a disease, bringing tragedy to millions.” To combat this “disease,” Einstein wanted to eliminate nationalistic sentiments—first by erasing the political borders between countries and then by instituting an international government with sovereignty over individual states. During World War I, Einstein supported the formation of the “United States of Europe.” He later endorsed the League of Nations and its successor, the United Nations. But Einstein worried that the United Nations did not have enough authority to ensure world peace.

    Einstein himself seemed to have little regard for national boundaries. His true allegiance was simply to the human race: “I am by heritage a Jew, by citizenship a Swiss, and by makeup a human being, and only a human being, without any special attachment to any state or national entity whatsoever.”

    Einstein considered himself a citizen of the world. He lived in several European countries before moving to the United States, and he also traveled extensively, visiting countries including Palestine, Argentina, Brazil, and Uruguay. In 1922, Einstein and his wife Elsa boarded the S.S. Kitano Maru bound for Japan. The trip also took them to other ports including Singapore, Hong Kong, and Shanghai.

    What’s somewhat interesting about this view he had of himself is that it fits so neatly with the stereotype – for good or for bad – of the rootless, cosmopolitan Jew. However, this bouncing around from countr to country is not the typical experience for most people. Did he not realize that what was good for him would be seen as a negative by most people?

    Einstein moved to the United States in 1933, after fleeing Nazi Germany. At the time he commented, “As long as I have any choice in the matter, I will live only in a country where civil liberty, tolerance, and equality of all citizens before the law are the rule.” He became an American citizen seven years later.

    Einstein saw world government as the only way to ensure lasting world peace. But he was skeptical that an organization like the United Nations—which answered to the national governments of its member states—could prevent future wars. In Einstein’s view, world peace would be guaranteed only when the leaders of individual nations answered to a single, supranational government.

    Is multiculturalism and open borders being done with the goal of world peace?

    • Replies: @Jack D

    Do you know what role might Einstein’s ideas may have played in the ongoing march toward multiculturalism and open borders?
     
    Little to none. Einstein was considered to be a brilliant scientist but a sort of "absent minded professor" who would sometimes forget to wear socks, so no one took his political musings seriously.

    As you say, most people are nationalists to one degree or another and don't like the idea of being unattached to any country. You could see though how, for a Jew of Einstein's generation, seeing what Hitler did with German nationalism might sour you on the idea of nationalism altogether. While it is not practical or wise to move millions upon billions of Asians and Africans to Europe or the US, at Einstein's level (the level of top scientist and other super talented individuals - artists, athletes, etc.) Einstein's vision is in fact correct as a practical matter and Einstein was only giving voice to what the actual reality is today and even in Einstein's time, where great talent flows to where it is most appreciated and most highly compensated. The great failure of our era is not that Einsteins consider themselves world citizens but that we are unable (or unwilling) to distinguish clock boys from Einsteins.
    , @Samuel Skinner

    Einstein thought highly of Lenin, saying: "I honor Lenin as a man who completely sacrificed himself and devoted all his energy to the realization of social justice. I do not consider his methods practical, but one thing is certain: men of his type are the guardians and restorers of humanity."
     
    (wikipedia)

    Yeah, Einstein was a red (useful idiot to be precise). He isn't the cause of those opinions; he was just reiterating beliefs that were popular among the intellectual classes at the time.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    See, this goes along with what I've seen a lot, otherwise intelligent people on the web that are just completely ignorant in other areas. OTOH, physicists (and mathematicians, for that matter) are known as men who don't particularly have a lot of common sense due to lack of experience in the actual world. I've got quite a few examples in my head.

    I will live only in a country where civil liberty, tolerance, and equality of all citizens before the law are the rule.” He became an American citizen seven years later.
     
    I'd think a bit of nationalism would be a pretty good thing once one found himself in a country that does have civil liberty, tolerance, and equality, at least based on his opinion of those principles. I mean, what are you gonna do if the country goes under, and there is no place left with what you valued in this society? Huh, nice work Einstein.

    In Einstein’s view, world peace would be guaranteed only when the leaders of individual nations answered to a single, supranational government.
     
    Ever heard of a civil war, or read the book 1984? Who's gonna help bring down the regime when you have totalitarianism in the only sovereign in the world? Martians? Think again, (LITERALLY) Einstein!

    Man, we're going to have to change a few expressions, the more we learn about these "geniuses" and "holy men". "Nice going, Einstein!" will now be "Nice going, Newton!" and "Is the Pope Catholic?" will now be "Is the Pope a Latino Commie?"
  153. @Jack D
    Einstein was in fact a pacifist. The only reason he signed the famous letter to Roosevelt which got the ball rolling on the Manhattan Project was that his fellow emigres were able to convince him that the Germans were working on nuclear weapons and it would be very bad for Hitler to get atomic weapons first. The 2nd half of that is true, but it turns out that the Germans for whatever reason did not get very far on nuclear weapons.

    "Whatever reason" might include the fact that they considered much of the important theoretical underpinnings to be Jüdische Physik and therefore off limits from consideration in weapons design and the fact that many of their most important nuclear scientists were Jewish and therefore not able to participate in the effort.

    Before 1943 the Germans didn’t think they needed such weapons. After 1942 they realised they didn’t have time to develop them.

    They also dropped the ball w.r.t. rocketry and jet propulsion, which were developed into working weapons far later than they should have been.

  154. @Joe Sweet
    Yep. Just as Obama was catching his stride.

    I noticed it in 2011 when I was hanging around with a Philosophy adjunct professor who's 7/16 native ancestry, femaleness, Judeophilia, and shameless fag-haggery apparently granted her the privilege to use white as an epithet despite the fact that she looked pretty white and all of her tastes landed squarely in the SWPL category. This must have been fairly early in the explicit white bashing juggernaut because at that time many of her facebook "friends" spoke up in their own defense in reaction to her posts that impugned something as being "so white." I doubt liberal white facebookers stand up for themselves like that these days.

    Only a literal Nazi would object to anti-white rhetoric.

  155. @Anonymous
    OT: From the Albuquerque Journal a new New Mexican starts out on the road to Red Pill City.

    We can do better: You can live with a scofflaw culture, but those of us who don’t are leaving. Good luck!

    She is on the way, but I think she needs to take a field trip to post-Somali Minneapolis:

    I come from Minnesota, land of the Lutheran. In Minnesota, the police pull you over if you are going 5 mph over the speed limit. And there are actually police to pull you over. Drinking and driving? You lose your license the first time. As it should be.

    P.S. Agree with it or not that article is a good example of state-level immigriping.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I don't quite see it as immigriping: a.) she says she's leaving (if only other immigripers would do the same); b.) she's not asking for special status or protection - she asks for rule of law.
  156. @HBD Guy
    I don't get it. If she has such a distaste for White Men, why is she still married to Blow Job Bill?

    If sShe has such a distaste for White Men, why is she because she is still married to Blow Job Bill?.

    FTFY

  157. @HBD Guy
    I don't get it. If she has such a distaste for White Men, why is she still married to Blow Job Bill?

    Bill was, as you may remember, our first African-American president, and Hillary is deluded enough to imagine this affords her some honorary POC status, notwithstanding the fact someone like Sarah Palin is, by comparison to her, practically an indigene.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    See for example Hillary speaking in black dialect:

    https://youtu.be/6FlpbRFXC9E?t=14

    If Romney tried something like this it would be horrible, racist cultural appropriation and lightning bolts would descend from the heavens and strike him down for such a sin, but Hillary, as the spouse of an honorary black man can get away with this (although I am sure that it did not really endear her to black people - she is not really an endearing person, period). A lot of what white liberals do is not actually intended to appeal to blacks (who are loyal Democrat voters for so long as the food stamps flow) but to nice white liberal ladies who imagine that this is what blacks like.
  158. @hhsiii
    Who is her ghostwriter? Presumably she approved that after her 4th pre-5:00 Chardonnay. The only white she appreciates.

    I have recently discovered an $8.00 Chardonnay that tastes like a $30.00 Chardonnay. But I won’t tell you what it is, lest you buy it all up.

  159. @George
    George Clooney / Coen Bros violent white people flick:

    Toronto Film Festival: George Clooney 'felt sick' shooting Suburbicon
    http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-41221390

    Suburbicon Official Trailer #1 (2017) Matt Damon, Oscar Isaac Crime Comedy HD

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBezc1S1BAQ

    So Clooney and the Coens are coming out with a hipster version of a The Turner Diaries by William Luther Pierce like tale that taps in to the dread that most HUWHITES now have of their future by projecting it back onto what their suburban protestant grandparents faced when they had to fight back all by themselves against the Sicilian Mafia.

    How Profound!!!

    Well given the number of SJW box office disasters “Hollywood” has cranked out in the past year with Dunkirk being the only exception to the trend…..

    Maybe some folks, like Clooney and the Coens, are still smart enough to realize that movies about white folks fighting for their collective survival are the only sure way so make some shekels even if one must hope that the SJW media critics don’t notice enough to shut you down.

  160. Hillary Clinton sits and stews in her own venomous juices in her compound in the mostly White town of Chappaqua, New York. When Hillary Clinton ventures out of her compound she demands to be paid huge amounts of loot to make appearances to push her book about her failed campaign for president. Can you imagine the number of mini bottles of booze that Hillary Clinton will be swigging as she goes from city to city selling her crappy book to dingbat White ladies?

    President Trump is a billionaire who used the immigration issue as a wedge to pry many White votes away from the Democrat Party. Mass immigration is very harmful to the interests of Whites Without College Degrees(WWCDs). Mass immigration lowers wages, increases housing costs, increases income inequality, swamps schools, overwhelms hospitals, causes habitat-destroying sprawl, brings Islamic terrorism to the United States and creates multicultural mayhem. Hillary Clinton and the Democrats pushed mass legal immigration and amnesty for illegal alien infiltrators.

    These Tweets from 2015 look prescient to me now, he says humbly:

  161. @eah
    OT

    Inside The Opioid Crisis: What The Mainstream Media Won't Let You See

    http://stockboardasset.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Screen-Shot-2017-09-11-at-9.23.02-AM-1.png

    Damn, I hate graphs with y-values other than zero at the bottom! I have to mentally figure where the real x-axis is and then scale off in my head how the curves really relate. I know it’s not your graph, eah, but that is no way to make a graph.

    If the BLS or whoever has a point to make, then they should blow up the important part of the curves on another graph, but show the BIG PICTURE first, or they’re being duplicitous (sometimes, it’s just because the maker of the graph just lets excel or whatever make the axes and is too dumb or lazy to set them right. Oh, US Feral Government. But, of course!)

    OK, enough, and, no, I am not Rantly McTirade’s twin brother, but that’s one hell of a great handle!

    • Replies: @Logan
    Agree completely. Dishonest graphs are one of my many pet peeves.
  162. @NickG
    Steve Bannon, in his recent 60 mins interview, said that Hillary is not very bright. I think he is right.

    Combine this with her being in a filter bubble, it seems likely that she, and hopefully the Dems too, cannot resist doubling down on identity politics, with whites as the bogey man. Being whites themselves, they see being ostentatiously anti white as a status symbol. They are running some weird combination of primate dominance display, combined with a bird of paradise like virtue signal. No doubt Jordan Peterson could wax lyrical on what's going on.

    They seem not to understand cause and effect....of karma. Identity politics begets identity politics and whites are, ever so gently for now, starting to play. The Dems themselves have and still are strategically facilitating the Sailer strategy. Many of us badwhites think this is wonderful, it's certainly entertaining.

    Steve Bannon points out that many of the brighter pinkoes know this doubling down on identity politics is an error. But it seems likely that the identity politics push has gotten an unstoppable momentum of its own. Hopefully they will pick another POC as their next leader, here's hoping for Kamala Harris.

    The Bannon interview was fun to watch. I wish they'd just played the full thing without editing. I guess that's too much to expect.

    Steve Bannon is right to say Hillary’s not very bright about national politics but she’s a genius at the level of social politics. At the matriarchal game she’s unmatched. She stood by wayward Bill because she saw the long game, she got her plain daughter married off well and her Clinton Foundation is a comfortable little nest egg by even Saudi standards. She’s even a bit of a living martyr at the hands of mean White men. That last bit is the cherry on top of the White lady masterpiece that is her life.

    • Replies: @Anon
    I'm not certain Hillary's so good at the matriarchial thing. Cheating Bill has humiliated her multiple times in public and made her eat dirt. The plain daughter now has a crook father-in-law, a bankrupt mother-in-law, and a hubby whose hedge fund keeps losing astonishing sums of money through sheer ineptitude. As for the Clinton foundation, the strong arm of the law has been nibbling at it for some time, and under Trump things may very well shift into gear for a full investigation. Hillary's emails have been coming under closer scrutiny because of the moronic antics of her sycophants, namely Comey and Wasserman-Schultz, so I don't think Hillary will escape in the long run. If she, or Chelsea makes signs that they're going to run for office in the future, a Republican Jusice Department is going to go after the Clinton Foundation. As for their money, I think it's likely that most it will be reduced to nothing within 20 years. The Clintons are massive spendthrifts, and once it's in the hands Chelsea and her boneheaded husband, it will disappear.
  163. You left out:

    Air
    Dirt
    The Stars
    G-d
    The Universe And All It Contains

    How about you take credit for what Blacks have REALLY invented?

    Crack
    The Destruction Of Cities
    High Crime
    Welfare Queens
    Polar Bear Hunting

    On the plus side I’ll give you Jazz, but not much else.

  164. @biz
    Or maybe because Germany surrendered and Japan didn't?

    Kabuki theatre, was it? Akin to the staged moon-landing and the pretense the Earth is not flat…?

  165. @Anonymous
    Do you know what role might Einstein's ideas may have played in the ongoing march toward multiculturalism and open borders? According to a write-up on him on the American Museum of Natural History website:

    Einstein's passionate commitment to the cause of global peace led him to support the creation of a single, unified world government. Einstein thought that patriotic zeal often became an excuse for violence: "As a citizen of Germany," he wrote in 1947, "I saw how excessive nationalism can spread like a disease, bringing tragedy to millions." To combat this "disease," Einstein wanted to eliminate nationalistic sentiments—first by erasing the political borders between countries and then by instituting an international government with sovereignty over individual states. During World War I, Einstein supported the formation of the "United States of Europe." He later endorsed the League of Nations and its successor, the United Nations. But Einstein worried that the United Nations did not have enough authority to ensure world peace.

    Einstein himself seemed to have little regard for national boundaries. His true allegiance was simply to the human race: "I am by heritage a Jew, by citizenship a Swiss, and by makeup a human being, and only a human being, without any special attachment to any state or national entity whatsoever."

    Einstein considered himself a citizen of the world. He lived in several European countries before moving to the United States, and he also traveled extensively, visiting countries including Palestine, Argentina, Brazil, and Uruguay. In 1922, Einstein and his wife Elsa boarded the S.S. Kitano Maru bound for Japan. The trip also took them to other ports including Singapore, Hong Kong, and Shanghai.

    What's somewhat interesting about this view he had of himself is that it fits so neatly with the stereotype - for good or for bad - of the rootless, cosmopolitan Jew. However, this bouncing around from countr to country is not the typical experience for most people. Did he not realize that what was good for him would be seen as a negative by most people?

    Einstein moved to the United States in 1933, after fleeing Nazi Germany. At the time he commented, "As long as I have any choice in the matter, I will live only in a country where civil liberty, tolerance, and equality of all citizens before the law are the rule." He became an American citizen seven years later.

    Einstein saw world government as the only way to ensure lasting world peace. But he was skeptical that an organization like the United Nations—which answered to the national governments of its member states—could prevent future wars. In Einstein's view, world peace would be guaranteed only when the leaders of individual nations answered to a single, supranational government.

    Is multiculturalism and open borders being done with the goal of world peace?

    Do you know what role might Einstein’s ideas may have played in the ongoing march toward multiculturalism and open borders?

    Little to none. Einstein was considered to be a brilliant scientist but a sort of “absent minded professor” who would sometimes forget to wear socks, so no one took his political musings seriously.

    As you say, most people are nationalists to one degree or another and don’t like the idea of being unattached to any country. You could see though how, for a Jew of Einstein’s generation, seeing what Hitler did with German nationalism might sour you on the idea of nationalism altogether. While it is not practical or wise to move millions upon billions of Asians and Africans to Europe or the US, at Einstein’s level (the level of top scientist and other super talented individuals – artists, athletes, etc.) Einstein’s vision is in fact correct as a practical matter and Einstein was only giving voice to what the actual reality is today and even in Einstein’s time, where great talent flows to where it is most appreciated and most highly compensated. The great failure of our era is not that Einsteins consider themselves world citizens but that we are unable (or unwilling) to distinguish clock boys from Einsteins.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    A highly intelligent person, and certainly someone who is sometimes considered to be the world's most intelligent person, should be able to anticipate that something that might work for him and others like him, might not work for the majority of people.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    I know a guy who knew a guy who worked in the same department as Einstein at Princeton. Guy #1 asked guy #2 if, in the course of his ccasional encounters with Einstein, he had ever heard him say something insightful or otherwise memorable. Guy #2 thought a moment and said, "He once told me that regular soap works just as well as shaving soap for shaving."
  166. @Cagey Beast
    White women consider White men their men and the global village to be their village.

    We all naturally think at the social scale of the village but this is doubly true for women. White women don't really care what the Arab, African or Chinese families in the global village do; they care about policing, shaming and (hopefully) uplifting their own children and men. Saudis and Chinese can publicly execute prisoners 'till the cows come home and White ladies will barely wrinkle their little noses but if "that man!" Putin takes his shirt off while fishing then their whole day is ruined. Putin is sort of the brother-in-law of Hillary's cousin in the global village and so it's her job to shame and police him. "I don't care what the Arabs do! In this family we're nice to gays!".

    This White lady world-view is fine and dandy at the level of the literal village but will be the death of us at the level of the mythical global village. Hillary Clinton, Madeline Albright and Samantha Power are the bossy Lady Bountifuls from the manor going around town shaming "their" men and uplifting the poor. Long story short, this is why we need to keep our ladies out of high level politics until they have the friend and enemy distinctions made perfectly clear to them.

    Long story short, this is why we need to keep our ladies out of high level politics until they have the friend and enemy distinctions made perfectly clear to them .

    There, Fixed It For You, as those people on the internet like to say.

    • Agree: Autochthon
  167. @AB-
    Jack D; THREE identical posts??

    With a trembling finger/hand like that, you should get to a doctor and see if it's Parkinson's....having trouble with the TV remote or phone dialing?

    A former girlfriend used to send multiple copies of the same email. She got upset when I called them Parkinsonian.

    I have the hands of a surgeon but Bill Gates is in charge of my computer and Comcast is in charge of my internet connection, so I blame one or both of them.

    • LOL: res
  168. @Jack D
    Einstein was in fact a pacifist. The only reason he signed the famous letter to Roosevelt which got the ball rolling on the Manhattan Project was that his fellow emigres were able to convince him that the Germans were working on nuclear weapons and it would be very bad for Hitler to get atomic weapons first. The 2nd half of that is true, but it turns out that the Germans for whatever reason did not get very far on nuclear weapons.

    "Whatever reason" might include the fact that they considered much of the important theoretical underpinnings to be Jüdische Physik and therefore off limits from consideration in weapons design and the fact that many of their most important nuclear scientists were Jewish and therefore not able to participate in the effort.

    “Whatever reason” might include the fact that they considered much of the important theoretical underpinnings to be Jüdische Physik and therefore off limits from consideration in weapons design and the fact that many of their most important nuclear scientists were Jewish and therefore not able to participate in the effort.

    They didn’t and it wasn’t. Nobody outside of a handful of old and ambitious regime-aligned physicists, such as Stark and Lenard, believed all that crap about “jewish physics”. Germany didn’t lack for scientific and technical talent, even considering the exodus of physicists in the 30s. What they lacked was the material capability. Fighting a war on 1 1/2 – 2 fronts, and occupying most of Europe, and only being a nation of about 90 million (including Austria, and various other german enclaves), they just didn’t have the wherewithal for such a massive undertaking. Especially as they were already engaged in another massive weapons program (which, as it happened, had no real military value) – the development of ballistic missiles. Heisenberg and others had concluded early on in the War that developing a nuclear weapon (if it were possible at all) could never be accomplished in time to have any impact on the outcome of the War. I believe they thought that applied to us too.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    I believe they thought that applied to us too.
     
    They were right in the European theater - the American bomb came too late to affect the war in Europe. Although I am not sure that Berlin and Hamburg would have looked that much worse if they had been nuked instead of relentlessly bombed.

    It's true that the Germans chose to concentrate their efforts on the ballistic missile rather than the nuclear warhead and that their resources were not unlimited, but still I think that the exodus of Jewish scientists and the ill repute of "Jewish physics" had more of an impact than you admit. By the end of the war, the Germans had made surprisingly little progress, even on the theoretical front. Out of 26 German nuclear physicists cited in the literature before 1933, 50% emigrated. The ones that stayed - Diebner, Esau, Gerlach, Schumann, etc. - were not exactly the #1 names in 20th century nuclear physics - they were definitely the "B" team. Deutsche Physik hacks were given undue promotions and Heisenberg only survived because his ma was friends with Himmler's ma.

    This wiki is I think a fair treatment and points to the exodus of scientific talent as an important if not the only factor:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_weapon_project

    It might have been that they wouldn't have achieved nuclear weapons anyway, but losing their best scientists sure didn't help. Many of the guys that they lost ended up being key players in the American effort so it was a double hit.
  169. @JW Bell
    Those are photos of a high school youth program, http://www.lapdcadets.com

    THIS is what America looks like

  170. @Joe Sweet
    along those same lines...Here's George Clooney defending his current movie at the SWPL Olympiad known as the Toronto International Film Festival against charges of tone-deaf portrayal of blacks (and other race issues in Hollywood).

    http://www.indiewire.com/2017/09/george-clooney-interview-suburbicon-diversity-hollywood-1201874750/


    “Of course, Charlottesville happens, because every few years Charlottesville happens again,” he said. “We keep forgetting that we haven’t excised that original sin completely. When I was growing up in Kentucky, the civil-rights movement had its big wave and segregation was exorcised from this country. We really felt like we were on this trajectory toward it all being finished. It wasn’t something you thought would be around. It’s a surprise that it’s still a part of our world.”

    As a filmmaker, Clooney said it took years for him to tackle race because he had yet to find the right project. “A lot of people ask me why I haven’t done any movies about Darfur or South Sudan,” he said, recalling his advocacy in the region. “Well, I haven’t found the script that’s right to do it. My personal life and where I go — philanthropic things — have always been toward whatever is inclusive, not exclusive. That’s always been an important part of my life. It’s just hard to find those films.”

    But Clooney added that he would rather see more minority filmmakers work their way into the industry, echoing the rise of Mexican filmmakers in Hollywood over a decade ago —the so-called “Three Amigos” of Alfonso Cuaron, Alejandro Gonzalez Iñarritu, and Guillermo del Toro, whose “The Shape of Water” just won the Golden Lion at the Venice International Film Festival.

    “All these great Mexican filmmakers showed up, it was like, fuck, this is great filmmaking,” Clooney said. “That’s what I’d like to see… some really interesting young filmmakers out there. You want to feel something fresh and new constantly. You want people pushing the limits. There’s a way to make things much cheaper now so there are a lot of different voices out there.”
     

    What a nitwit. He apparently thinks because these three Mexican directors have names similar to the guys who do the yard work at his LA mansion that they look like his gardeners too. There's nothing "minority" about those three amigos unless you are taking the global view and are recognizing that whites are a minority.

    http://www.trbimg.com/img-54e7f3ee/turbine/la-apphoto-fox-s-golden-globe-awards-party1-jpg-20150220/1150/1150x647

    Of course, famous actor and hypocrite George Clooney recently fled Europe because of diversity:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/07/06/clooney-moving-twins-back-america-security-reasons/

  171. I think the term that Hillary is looking for is “F**king White Male”, as made famous by

    Carl the Cuck and AIDS Skrillex

  172. @Maj. Kong
    I'm old enough to recall the "epistemic closure" meme that was spread after the 2012 defeat. The most disgusting thing the left did in 2012 was the "White People mourning Romney" Tumblrism. Their reveling in open anti-white racism (thinking an amnesty and permanent one party rule was right around the corner). That's what sent me out of mainstream WF Buckley conservatism, and into White Identity Politics.

    You could say that declaring victory prematurely is a common failure of the Left, but you have to understand that the reason that they do it is that they see themselves as being on “the right side of history” and that so often their declarations of victory succeed in creating facts on the ground.

    This usually works (see gay marriage), and usually they are able to suppress any visible white/traditionalist backlash – anyone who protests at being placed upon the garbage heap of history is declared to be a Nazi and doxxed. Unfortunately for Hillary we still have the secret ballot though I predict that Leftists will go after that soon. Aren’t we entitled to know how you voted so we can know not to hire you? Why should fascists be allowed to hide their fascist beliefs behind the curtain of the voting booth?

    • Replies: @Kevin C.

    Unfortunately for Hillary we still have the secret ballot though I predict that Leftists will go after that soon. Aren’t we entitled to know how you voted so we can know not to hire you? Why should fascists be allowed to hide their fascist beliefs behind the curtain of the voting booth?
     
    Didn't we already see the start of this with the purging of Brendan Eich for his Prop. 8 vote?
  173. I am tremendously saddened to see my beloved country splitting into two warring camps. I weep and cry for my nation. What can I do to bring peace and unity to America?

    My whole spirit is in torment at the prospect that a terrible tumult will trample the United States. I sense great global political shockwaves reverberating from the coming conflict in the United States.

    As I write this I see with patriotic clarity the two camps beginning their mobilization for total war.
    The first camp consists of people who consider Hillary Clinton to be a “screeching harridan” and the second camp is composed of those who insist with a vigorous warlike fury that Hillary Clinton is a “haranguing harpy.”

    There will be no peace between the two views of Hillary Clinton until one side is completely and totally vanquished. Only God will prevent the war between the two camps.

    Please, God, let the cooler heads prevail so as to preserve the peace in this troubled land.

  174. @Intelligent Dasein

    Steve Bannon, in his recent 60 mins interview,
     
    I'm glad somebody brought up this interview, because I need to unburden myself of a most disquieting sensation. I feel like I'm in The Twilight Zone whenever I hear people on our side talk about how wonderful that interview was, as if one morning I woke up the same and everybody else was different.

    A word to the wise here---that interview was atrocious. Steve Bannon comes across as an unhinged zealot: Bloodshot eyes, interruptive speech, delusions of grandeur. He seems to think he's still playing some sort of vital role within the Trump administration, although paradoxically from "outside" it. The fact of the matter, as is becoming quite clear, is just the opposite. Bannon was apparently always a marginal figure in Trump's circle and with Trump's increasingly establishment drift, there is no longer any use for him. This must have come as a blow to Bannon's ego. He once thought (and had many others thinking) that he was the indispensable architect of the victorious Trump movement. That idea has turned out to be largely a myth created by himself.

    In compensation, Bannon has taken to running Breitbart as if it were his own personal vanity site. The features now consist of basically two kinds: 1) Articles about Steve Bannon; and 2) Articles about articles about Steve Bannon. This is is recurring theme with Breitbart and is reminiscent of the turbo-gonzo days of Milo Yiannopoulos.

    What's worse is the actual content of Steve Bannon's vision for the country. He styles himself as a defender of "radical unity," meaning that Americans of every race, religion, and sexual orientation will find common cause in his program of economic nationalism.

    It is impossible to overstate how stupid that is. Replace economic nationalism with "muh free market" and there is nothing to distinguish this from the cuckservativism of DR3 and "enterprise zones," except that Bannon's version lacks the gibs and graft necessary to actually make the spoils system work.

    Steve Bannon is an epic failure as a statesman. Whether its his grandiose but inaccurate historiographies ("Firing James Comey was the worst mistake in modern political history") or his cowardly hypocrisy ("We committed the original sin of the Trump administration; we embraced the establishment"), he is an unstable, self-promoting, and self-aggrandizing lunatic who has no place anywhere near the corridors of power.

    Steve Bannon comes across as an unhinged zealot:

    Yup, to many that would never going to vote Trump. But then few normal – non political junkie – folks, especially swing voters, know who Bannon is!

    Steve Bannon is an epic failure as a statesman

    Yup I agree, and in the same vein our host here would be an epic failure transitioning to a career as a female ramp model. I suspect both Steve’s share similar levels of expectation of success in each respective profession. Bannon was a behind the scenes geezer; he was never on the cards as a ‘statesman’.

    Bannon is, no doubt, a pugnacious bombastic geezer. What his contribution to Trump’s ideological underpinnings, or the campaign’s against the odds success, is difficult to say on the level of the inside gen most of us here have. What we can say is that Bannon was billed as Trump’s Campaign co-ordinator and contrary to most predictions, Trump won.

    Was he fired, was he pushed, did he flounce off, does he feel he can be more effective outside the administration….I suspect it’s something of all 4. Does he still have Trump’s ear…I suspect not directly.

    • Replies: @guest
    "our host here would be an epic failure transitioning to a career as a female ramp model"

    He would, because unfortunately he looks like a grown man instead of a pubescent boy.
  175. @black sea
    Bill was, as you may remember, our first African-American president, and Hillary is deluded enough to imagine this affords her some honorary POC status, notwithstanding the fact someone like Sarah Palin is, by comparison to her, practically an indigene.

    See for example Hillary speaking in black dialect:

    If Romney tried something like this it would be horrible, racist cultural appropriation and lightning bolts would descend from the heavens and strike him down for such a sin, but Hillary, as the spouse of an honorary black man can get away with this (although I am sure that it did not really endear her to black people – she is not really an endearing person, period). A lot of what white liberals do is not actually intended to appeal to blacks (who are loyal Democrat voters for so long as the food stamps flow) but to nice white liberal ladies who imagine that this is what blacks like.

    • Replies: @black sea
    I guess she believes the bottle of pepper sauce she (allegedly) carries in her purse really seals the deal with the bruthas and sistahs.

    And to think this clueless clown still can't figure out why she keeps losing.

    , @IBC
    Romney was accused of tanning specifically to increase his appeal to Latino voters:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/20/mitt-romney-dyed-face-brown-fake-tan-univision_n_1900707.html

    Maybe Hillary was trying to pass herself off as some kind of white yokel from Arkansas instead of an authoritarian-sounding northern white feminist lawyer-type? If a traditional black American audience could be assured that a white person is not actually racist or putting on any kind of airs with them, they might otherwise be expected to make more of a personal connection with a white Southerner over a Northerner as happened with her husband, Bill.
  176. @AndrewR
    I don't feel like digging too deeply into Che's ancestry or into the genetic studies of the Irish and Spanish people, but there is an interesting genetic link between part of the Irish population and part of the Spanish population.

    The Galicians of Northern Spain are Celtic just like the Irish, Scots, and Welsh.

  177. @Broski
    The dynamic underlying this chart is human labor being replaced by machines. That, along with global Europa realizing that diversity sucks, will drive History (in the Fukuyama sense) during the 21st century.

    Wrong.

    The underlying dynamic here is that in the 1960s Art Sackler brought Valium’s patent to the US from the company where his wife worked then became the first ad man in history to rack up $100 million in pharmaceutical sales for a single product.

    He’s in the medical advertising hall of fame for that, speaking of monuments that should be torn down.

    http://theweek.com/articles/541564/how-american-opiate-epidemic-started-by-pharmaceutical-company

    He achieved this magnificent accomplishment by turning family doctors into pushers.

    The families were white. The doctors were white. The affected population was white.

    Read the above link. Read it. Read it again. The “whites depressed because of machines” meme is a lie and a distraction. It is deliberate. Don’t let yourself be cucked by it. And don’t try to cuck others with it.

  178. @Anonymous
    Do you know what role might Einstein's ideas may have played in the ongoing march toward multiculturalism and open borders? According to a write-up on him on the American Museum of Natural History website:

    Einstein's passionate commitment to the cause of global peace led him to support the creation of a single, unified world government. Einstein thought that patriotic zeal often became an excuse for violence: "As a citizen of Germany," he wrote in 1947, "I saw how excessive nationalism can spread like a disease, bringing tragedy to millions." To combat this "disease," Einstein wanted to eliminate nationalistic sentiments—first by erasing the political borders between countries and then by instituting an international government with sovereignty over individual states. During World War I, Einstein supported the formation of the "United States of Europe." He later endorsed the League of Nations and its successor, the United Nations. But Einstein worried that the United Nations did not have enough authority to ensure world peace.

    Einstein himself seemed to have little regard for national boundaries. His true allegiance was simply to the human race: "I am by heritage a Jew, by citizenship a Swiss, and by makeup a human being, and only a human being, without any special attachment to any state or national entity whatsoever."

    Einstein considered himself a citizen of the world. He lived in several European countries before moving to the United States, and he also traveled extensively, visiting countries including Palestine, Argentina, Brazil, and Uruguay. In 1922, Einstein and his wife Elsa boarded the S.S. Kitano Maru bound for Japan. The trip also took them to other ports including Singapore, Hong Kong, and Shanghai.

    What's somewhat interesting about this view he had of himself is that it fits so neatly with the stereotype - for good or for bad - of the rootless, cosmopolitan Jew. However, this bouncing around from countr to country is not the typical experience for most people. Did he not realize that what was good for him would be seen as a negative by most people?

    Einstein moved to the United States in 1933, after fleeing Nazi Germany. At the time he commented, "As long as I have any choice in the matter, I will live only in a country where civil liberty, tolerance, and equality of all citizens before the law are the rule." He became an American citizen seven years later.

    Einstein saw world government as the only way to ensure lasting world peace. But he was skeptical that an organization like the United Nations—which answered to the national governments of its member states—could prevent future wars. In Einstein's view, world peace would be guaranteed only when the leaders of individual nations answered to a single, supranational government.

    Is multiculturalism and open borders being done with the goal of world peace?

    Einstein thought highly of Lenin, saying: “I honor Lenin as a man who completely sacrificed himself and devoted all his energy to the realization of social justice. I do not consider his methods practical, but one thing is certain: men of his type are the guardians and restorers of humanity.”

    (wikipedia)

    Yeah, Einstein was a red (useful idiot to be precise). He isn’t the cause of those opinions; he was just reiterating beliefs that were popular among the intellectual classes at the time.

  179. @Arclight
    Yeah - if the GOP was smart, they could continue to win the presidency just due to the erosion of white support for the Democrats alone. Even smarter would be to adopt the strategy Sailer has put forth of encouraging the perception of the Dems as a party primarily concerned with black Americans and force Hispanic voters to choose between that and the GOP as an alternative. You need a Rove or a Stone for that, and frankly the GOP doesn't really have a master political architect right now, but neither do the Dems.

    The GOP just wants Trump gone, period.

    The fact is the GOP has never liked the white blue collar or middle-class people at all. They just happened to throw them a bone once in a while but that’s it. It’s a country club for upper class professionals and grifters.

    Take a look at their economic policies since GHW Bush – screw the little guy and cater to the wealthy, support globalization and off-shoring of industry and keep the borders open.

    As a party they didn’t like outsiders like Reagan or Trump anymore than the DNC liked Carter(they hated him as much as the GOP hates Trump). It’s a culture thing. Reagan and Trump were mainstream Americans in terms of thinking and values. They never fit in the hallowed halls of the Hamptons or Greenwich.

    And they are quite content on committing political suicide to get rid of Trump because they don’t care if they end up a permanent rump party as long as they get payolla.

    In short don’t view them as Americans because they are not, they are merely self-serving swindlers.

  180. @Jack D

    Do you know what role might Einstein’s ideas may have played in the ongoing march toward multiculturalism and open borders?
     
    Little to none. Einstein was considered to be a brilliant scientist but a sort of "absent minded professor" who would sometimes forget to wear socks, so no one took his political musings seriously.

    As you say, most people are nationalists to one degree or another and don't like the idea of being unattached to any country. You could see though how, for a Jew of Einstein's generation, seeing what Hitler did with German nationalism might sour you on the idea of nationalism altogether. While it is not practical or wise to move millions upon billions of Asians and Africans to Europe or the US, at Einstein's level (the level of top scientist and other super talented individuals - artists, athletes, etc.) Einstein's vision is in fact correct as a practical matter and Einstein was only giving voice to what the actual reality is today and even in Einstein's time, where great talent flows to where it is most appreciated and most highly compensated. The great failure of our era is not that Einsteins consider themselves world citizens but that we are unable (or unwilling) to distinguish clock boys from Einsteins.

    A highly intelligent person, and certainly someone who is sometimes considered to be the world’s most intelligent person, should be able to anticipate that something that might work for him and others like him, might not work for the majority of people.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    If you consider the millions upon millions of dead as a result of the two 20th century world wars, you might wonder if nationalism really "worked" for the average European either.
  181. White Core Americans(WCAs) seems to be a good descriptive name designed to get the most bang for the buck in terms of triggering the anti-White totalitarians who control the Democrat Party. Hillary Clinton seems to snarl like an angry dog when she says the word “White.” I liked to use the descriptive name “European Christian Ancestral Core” but that does seem too wordy and it ain’t got the magic word “White” that drives them wild.

    White Core Americans can be said to describe the ethnic or ancestral core population of the United States. The ancestral core of the United States is White. The United States is a White nation. Hillary Clinton says she loves Blacks but Hillary loves to live in the mostly White town of Chappaqua, New York.

    Speech sample using White Core America as a theme:

    Mass immigration has been used as a demographic weapon to demographically attack White Core Americans. The Democrat Party is using the mass importation of foreigners as a demographic weapon to attack White Core Americans. Now is the time to vote for a candidate who will defend the interests of White Core Americans against the evil attacks of the Democrat Party. Vote for your future, vote for your families future, vote to defend and protect the proud patriotic core of this great country.

  182. @Peter Akuleyev
    The elites seem completely unaware how grating their usage of "white" is. It shows how deeply trapped they are in their own little bubble.

    I think all this naked hatred against whites is a big mistake for blacks. East Asians with some justice feel they are equal or superior so you don’t get much contempt for white accomplishment from them. Hispanics want the goose that lays those golden eggs so they too are circumspect. But Americans blacks no longer bother too conceal their desire to slaughter all whites.

    Let’s face it blacks have not worked out in America. Lincoln, Jefferson and Washington never could believe that blacks could ever be social equals to whites. As it turns out – they were right.

    Since the sixties America has embraced a kind of optimism about prospects for racial blending. But all the evidence for the success of racial equality is negative.

    There is a story earlier in this blog thread about America’s opioid epidemic. It testifies to the hopelessness that young black men feel. I’m sure its correct. Probably the best way to interpret the black on black shooting that we see in Baltimore, Detroit and Chicago is that it is a new form of suicide – suicide by proxy. The social scientists refuse to believe it but the black kids in the ghetto know the odds against them ever becoming a normal member of society. So they shoot heroin into their arms and shoot their gun at other blacks.

    Meanwhile the white liberals and black militants become increasingly more strident. They have grants and maybe even tenure. They are a long way from the grim realities of street black life. So they indulge in nasty panegyrics against white people. They feel better for this. Most other blacks have no outlet for their frustration. They at least can scream.

    But hating whites is not cost-free. We know that the only people to ever drop an atomic device were white people. We know that the famous Nazi genocide of the Jews was done by white people. So no should doubt that whites can be very nasty indeed. It is in the best long term interest of blacks to cool it – to mollify whites and hope for some answer to emerge. The present course of white liberals and black radicals to spew undiluted hatred at whites looks to me to be another suicide gesture.

    • Replies: @Olorin

    I think all this naked hatred against whites is a big mistake for blacks.
     
    Exactly correct.

    And who do you think taught them to act like this starting in the 1960s?

    And what do you think their motives were?

    If blacks ever wake up to how they have been used, and how badly, in the name of "civil" "rights," there is going to be a reckoning...and suddenly the cry is going to be, "Help us, white man! Call the police/National Guard/Army/Navy/Coast Guard to save us!"

    Or so I'm told by conservative Jews of my acquaintance.

    We know that the only people to ever drop an atomic device were white people.
     
    You mean the guys who flew Enola Gay? No doubt. Most pilots and plane crews in the 1940s US were.

    What about the people who created the device/processes leading up to it in the Manhattan (ahem) Project?

    What about J. Robert Oppenheimer, Frank Oppenheimer, Albert Einstein, Neils Bohr, Leo Szilard, Nicholas Kurti, David Bohm, Rudolf Peierls, Felix Bloch, Paul Wigner, James Chadwick, James Franck, Otto Frisch, Edward Teller, Hans Bethe, Klaus Fuchs, Dick Feynmann, Louis Slotin, Louis Rosen, Morris Kolodney, Ted Hall, Samuel Cohen, Jacob Beser, Samuel Goldsmit, George Placzek, Eugene Rabinowich, Gregory Breit, David Greenglass, Victor Weisskopf, Alvin Weinberg, Isidor Rabi, Joseph Rotblat, George Koval, Stan Frankel, Franz Simon, and David Lilienthal?

    Were they "white people"?

    Were they "white people" when they worked for Hitler?

    Were they "white people" when they spied for Stalin?
    , @Thea
    Do Mestizos possess the same racial animus?


    I'm sure they'd fleece us but there doesn't seem to be the same desire to spitefully rape, torture and kill us. Perhaps I'm wrong.

    , @anonymous

    So no should doubt that whites can be very nasty indeed.
     
    Oh man, no one with a thinking brain doubts that. We see it exhibited in its full glory, every day, in some corner of the world.
    , @Tacitus
    We also know that White South Africans are demonstrating that Whites are quite willing to give up power and allow themselves to be victims of genocide. Pioneers.
    , @Logan
    In case you hadn't heard, poor whites are heavily afflicted by the opioid disaster.
  183. @Jack D
    Here is a picture of young Che (left) with his family - they look pretty "white bread" to me:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Chefamily.jpg

    In accordance with Spanish naming customs (father's name then mother's) his father was named
    Ernesto Guevara y Lynch - in other words Che was a "Lynch" thru his paternal grandmother. It's unclear (at least to me) how long the Lynches resided in Argentina - some sources trace him to Patrick (Patricio) Lynch who arrived in Argentina in the 18th century while others point to more recent ancestry.

    By appearance the Guevaras didn't have a lot of Irish in them and I am guessing were mostly Spanish (but very little if any Amerindian). The Argentine lower classes all identify as "Spanish" but in fact, especially once you get outside of Buenos Aires, have a great deal of Indian blood (which they pretend not to notice), but the upper classes (like Che) tend to be mostly or all European (albeit Southern European ).

    They don’t look “white bread”. The connotation of “white bread” is WASPY/northern European looking, rather than white or European in general. The Jersey Shore for example would be white but not “white bread”. This is why the actor Maroulis says he’s not “Wonder Bread”.

  184. @Tiny Duck
    Because whites have unearned privileges that are greater than their contributions

    Leonard Pitts and verysmartbrothas have written extensively on how white men continue to murder People of Color. Complaining about "anti white" stuff contributes to white supremacy. You guys are traitors tearforists and fake Americans. America is about freedom justice and the fight against racism

    You people need to get out. America does not want or need you

    As any Person of Color will tell you white men take credit for inventing things they stole from People of Color

    Also white wonen are increasingly bearing Children of Color. I cannot wait for just stick to be served

    OK OK OK then.

    I asked for a higher quality troll, I was told we can’t afford it, being a sort of tincup-for-existence samizdat endeavor.

    So can we at LEAST take up a collection to send Dicky Nut to SKDKnickerbocker’s summer camp for PR interns?

    Or maybe they’re already sending their best. Hm.

    I demand more Edge from our resident troll!

    More wit! More…Andrew Anglin and less Andrew Cuomo! More Adrean Arlott and less Adrienne Arsineault! More Nick Bougas and less Nick Kristof!

    Dammit, I came of age on PJ O’Rourke in Ma Poon and manuscripts of The Boomer Bible (not published in book form till 1990 iirc)!

    http://johnderbyshire.com/Opinions/Culture/Extras/foreigners.html

    http://theboomerbible.com/

    I demand better Troll!

  185. @grapesoda
    Because it's ESPN. They've been going full SJW for years now, in spite of tanking ratings and financial difficulties.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-28/espn-can-t-afford-to-go-on-like-this

    http://www.businessinsider.com/espns-layoffs-spell-trouble-for-live-sports-2017-3

    They also had a "groundbreaking" female-only announcing crew for the Monday night game, which all non-SJWs thought was terrible.

    ESPN is the Democratic Party of cable channels, ie too arrogant to try to correct their mistakes.

    They also had a “groundbreaking” female-only announcing crew for the Monday night game, which all non-SJWs thought was terrible.

    Wait – is Rex Ryan transitioning?? This stuff really is contagious!

  186. “Putin’s Russianness may be a good template for American Whiteness.”

    It was…in the 1980s. But we are way past the point where that could be viable here in the United States. The Russian population is not growing dramatically via immigration. The US population is.

    • Replies: @Sarah Toga
    therefore . . . end immigration.
  187. “we still have the secret ballot though I predict that Leftists will go after that soon.”

    They have already tested the waters with that by attempting to remove secret ballots for union leadership voting.

  188. @AndrewR
    Anti-white rhetoric in general seemed to skyrocket around 2012.

    When Obama was reelected in 2012, left-liberals figured it was time (and safe) to drop the mask of affability and give vent to their venomous hatred.

    • Agree: AndrewR
  189. @map
    "White" as an epithet is a function of liberals not believing in truth, yet having to still be convincing to people. When one does not believe in truth, then the only way to be convincing is to make arguments "against interest." Hillary perceives that being anti-white will endear her to others because she thinks she will be convincing by attacking herself or arguing against her own perceived interest. We're supposed to be so impressed by these self-criticizing acts, that we immediately fall to our knees to worship these "leaders."

    I'd be more impressed if these self-criticizers simply offed themselves.

    “map,” thanks for what seems a fruitful analysis.

  190. @NickG
    Steve Bannon, in his recent 60 mins interview, said that Hillary is not very bright. I think he is right.

    Combine this with her being in a filter bubble, it seems likely that she, and hopefully the Dems too, cannot resist doubling down on identity politics, with whites as the bogey man. Being whites themselves, they see being ostentatiously anti white as a status symbol. They are running some weird combination of primate dominance display, combined with a bird of paradise like virtue signal. No doubt Jordan Peterson could wax lyrical on what's going on.

    They seem not to understand cause and effect....of karma. Identity politics begets identity politics and whites are, ever so gently for now, starting to play. The Dems themselves have and still are strategically facilitating the Sailer strategy. Many of us badwhites think this is wonderful, it's certainly entertaining.

    Steve Bannon points out that many of the brighter pinkoes know this doubling down on identity politics is an error. But it seems likely that the identity politics push has gotten an unstoppable momentum of its own. Hopefully they will pick another POC as their next leader, here's hoping for Kamala Harris.

    The Bannon interview was fun to watch. I wish they'd just played the full thing without editing. I guess that's too much to expect.

    Loved your point about wanting to see the unexpurgated Bannon interview.

    The very first issue of Playboy I ever read was from 1990 or so. Its feature interview was of Donald Trump. Trump also had his own camera crew tape the interview. Wish Bannon had done likewise with 60 Minutes.

  191. @Jack D
    See for example Hillary speaking in black dialect:

    https://youtu.be/6FlpbRFXC9E?t=14

    If Romney tried something like this it would be horrible, racist cultural appropriation and lightning bolts would descend from the heavens and strike him down for such a sin, but Hillary, as the spouse of an honorary black man can get away with this (although I am sure that it did not really endear her to black people - she is not really an endearing person, period). A lot of what white liberals do is not actually intended to appeal to blacks (who are loyal Democrat voters for so long as the food stamps flow) but to nice white liberal ladies who imagine that this is what blacks like.

    I guess she believes the bottle of pepper sauce she (allegedly) carries in her purse really seals the deal with the bruthas and sistahs.

    And to think this clueless clown still can’t figure out why she keeps losing.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I guess she believes the bottle of pepper sauce she (allegedly) carries in her purse really seals the deal with the bruthas and sistahs.
     
    It's more likely actually a can of pepper-spray.
  192. @Anonymous
    Did you see Sergio Dipp's ESPN sideline report from Monday Night Football? I didn't either because I no longer watch the NFL. But anyway, Sergio (who was born in Mexicali, Mexico and attended the University of Monterrey, where he studied communications) highlighted the black coach's diversity and went into an embarrassing commentary.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQoB2flGBa4

    Don’t know how Sergio was worse – in the brazen pandering to the SJWs, or in a performance that was worse than amateurish by any objective standards.

  193. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    In this case, she’s not using it because it’s just a general negative intensifier. She’s using it because she’s playing to domestic politics, and on the domestic political scene, Putin has been explicitly embraced as a “white authoritarian leader” of sorts by white nationalists, regardless of what Putin himself really is.

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/richard-spencer-trump-alt-right-white-nationalist/

    Spencer calls Russia “the most powerful white power in the world” and admires Vladimir Putin’s authoritarianism—he would gladly admit most Russians into his ideal ethnostate.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/page/ct-trump-putin-russia-perspec-0517-20170516-story.html

    Rising self-described white nationalist Matthew Heimbach also has praised Putin’s Russia as “the axis for nationalists,” according to an interview by Business Insider. “I really believe that Russia is the leader of the free world right now,” he told the news website. “Putin is supporting nationalists around the world and building an anti-globalist alliance, while promoting traditional values and self-determination.”

    • Replies: @Jack D
    I honestly don't understand why the Western right keeps falling for these guys (their last love affair was with Hitler - that didn't turn out well either). Yes, they hate the decadent West and you hate the decadent West, but that doesn't mean that they are your friends.

    First of all, Putin is from a place that is outside of all Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality or freedom or fair play. Americans , no matter how rightist, would never allow themselves to be ruled by a Putin.

    2nd, Putin himself doesn't give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy. Putin sees the world as a series of concentric loyalties - his #1 loyalty is to himself and his family, then to his inner circle, then to the Russian people and YOU are way,way outside the circle of trust.
    , @Thea
    i wonder if Putin's American fan club is of any use to him or if they are viewed as either crazy or irrelevant
  194. Putin doesn’t give a damn about “white identity”, he is a statist

    This is beyond irrelevant.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    No, it is highly relevant. Russian, even today's rump Russia, is a multicultural society where you can be "Russian" by signing on to the great Russian statist project. Russia (and Putin is very typical in this regard) defines itself in OPPOSITION to the decadent West. If you are a Russian statist, you can be any culture or religion (although it certainly doesn't hurt to be Russian and Orthodox). If you oppose the Russian statist project then you are an enemy of Moscow and pure white Russian blood won't help you - watch out for Polonium in your tea.

    This article explains it:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/opinion/russia-putin-national-identity.html

    Americans always make the mistake of assuming that everyone thinks just like Americans. Putin is impossible to understand in American terms and not a good role model for American white nationalists because Russian history is not like American history and Russians are not Americans.
  195. @Anonymous
    A highly intelligent person, and certainly someone who is sometimes considered to be the world's most intelligent person, should be able to anticipate that something that might work for him and others like him, might not work for the majority of people.

    If you consider the millions upon millions of dead as a result of the two 20th century world wars, you might wonder if nationalism really “worked” for the average European either.

    • Replies: @peterike

    If you consider the millions upon millions of dead as a result of the two 20th century world wars, you might wonder if nationalism really “worked” for the average European either.

     

    If you think those wars were driven by "nationalism" then you really don't know much about it.
    , @Currahee
    Hitler respected national borders?
  196. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “Einstein was in fact a pacifist.”

    …except when it came to Israel. For some mysterious reason he supported the creation of Israel using military force, though he tried to couch his hypocrisy with feigned concern about the Palestinians.

    Einstein was a pacifist because he did not truly considering himself German or American. He was a Jew first, meaning that he wasn’t particularly invested in the patriotic concerns of the nations in which he resided. If I were an American living in Japan, I would probably be a pacifist if the Chinese attacked Senkaku. What’s it to me anyway? I’m not Japanese. However, if I were an American living in America, I would feel very different if midway were attacked by the Chinese. See how that works?

  197. @Anon
    "Putin’s Russianness may be a good template for American Whiteness."

    It was...in the 1980s. But we are way past the point where that could be viable here in the United States. The Russian population is not growing dramatically via immigration. The US population is.

    therefore . . . end immigration.

  198. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “If you consider the millions upon millions of dead as a result of the two 20th century world wars, you might wonder if nationalism really “worked” for the average European either.”

    It worked for us. We stole our lands, conquered our enemies, put a man on the moon, and turned ourselves into a superpower. The only difference is that Europeans are losers who lost.

  199. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Citizen of a Silly Country
    That's the problem that the Dems are running into these days. Blacks, Hispanics, even Muslims are demanding to be front and center in the party leadership and to be the candidates. White men, Jews and white women are being pushed out.

    It was one thing having Bill Clinton or Schumer or Biden chiding whites and talking about white privilege. It's another to have Tony Perez or Keith Ellison talking about black and Hispanic pride while telling working class whites that they are terrible.

    Obama got away with it in part because of his personality (a well-spoken black who frankly didn't act like other blacks) and in part because he was the first PoC to get elected to high office. But even his racial animus came out over time, and it rubbed whites the wrong way.

    Whites won't have as much patience the next time around, nor will the PoC messenger likely be as smooth as Obama.

    It's a major problem for the Dems. Luckily for them, the GOP would rather perish than stand up for whites so the Dems will be just fine because it's hard to lose if you don't have an opponent.

    Part of the problem with Republican candidates for office is that they have had the rule of coalition building beaten into their heads, namely, he who wins is the one who puts together the biggest coalition. It’s a basic rule of warfare. They’re not used to the idea that this country is fragmenting into masses that no longer assimilate and that-old fashioned coalition building no longer works on a national level. The main problem is that the Democrats, by demonizing whites, are splintering the electorate irreparably. Republicans hate the idea that they’ll win elections by imitating George Wallace or Theodore Bilbo, and that what used to be the ideology of the old South is now white America writ large. You’ve got all these northern descendants of abolitionists and Unions soldiers who are writhing in agony at the thought of it.

    Someone made the point above is that self-hating whites like Hillary can only lead blacks and browns by being a self-hating white and buy promising to pass on a lot of free goodies, and that the minute white Democratics start losing elections anyway, blacks and browns will abandon them as candidates and create the rule that only people of color can represent them in office. That will finish off white Democrats completely. To POCs, having patronage and money being passed onto them in local politics by POC aldermen and mayors is far more important than supporting white candidates who lose elections and who fail to cough up the goodies.

  200. @MEH 0910

    As any Person of Color will tell you white men take credit for inventing things they stole from People of Color
     
    Name some examples.

    don’t forget those flying pyramids

  201. @black sea
    I guess she believes the bottle of pepper sauce she (allegedly) carries in her purse really seals the deal with the bruthas and sistahs.

    And to think this clueless clown still can't figure out why she keeps losing.

    I guess she believes the bottle of pepper sauce she (allegedly) carries in her purse really seals the deal with the bruthas and sistahs.

    It’s more likely actually a can of pepper-spray.

    • LOL: Kylie
  202. @Dennis Dale

    Putin doesn’t give a damn about “white identity”, he is a statist
     
    This is beyond irrelevant.

    No, it is highly relevant. Russian, even today’s rump Russia, is a multicultural society where you can be “Russian” by signing on to the great Russian statist project. Russia (and Putin is very typical in this regard) defines itself in OPPOSITION to the decadent West. If you are a Russian statist, you can be any culture or religion (although it certainly doesn’t hurt to be Russian and Orthodox). If you oppose the Russian statist project then you are an enemy of Moscow and pure white Russian blood won’t help you – watch out for Polonium in your tea.

    This article explains it:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/opinion/russia-putin-national-identity.html

    Americans always make the mistake of assuming that everyone thinks just like Americans. Putin is impossible to understand in American terms and not a good role model for American white nationalists because Russian history is not like American history and Russians are not Americans.

    • Replies: @Vinteuil
    "Putin is impossible to understand in American terms and not a good role model for American white nationalists because Russian history is not like American history and Russians are not Americans."

    This seems right to me. The political situation in Russia is just too different from that in the USA to make any easy comparisons.

    I hope you'd agree that, just as it's foolish for American nationalists to adopt Putin as a role model, it's equally foolish - and far more dangerous, not to mention far more prevalent - for American globalists to demonize him.
    , @Vinteuil
    P.S. - I'd hope you'd also agree that Donald Trump has (or, at least, had) exactly the right instincts here: wouldn't it be great if we could just get along with Russians, and cooperate with them when it's to our mutual advantage? What possible advantage can ordinary Americans gain from a renewed cold war?
  203. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “Clooney and the Coens”

    Clooney is a loser who hasn’t been in a good movie since George W. was president – and even then only during his first term. The Coens are also overrated hacks who make artsy-fartsy movies that appeal only to other hacks who like to think of themselves as more sophisticated than the lower classes they despise. The most likely outcome of their project is that the left goes nuts as soon as the phrase “the Turner Diaries” is uttered, regardless of context (because the left is reactionary and stupid). Clooney and the Coens will try to explain their meaning (attacking whites and Trump) but it will be too late. Controversy will ensue, the ADL will publicly distance themselves from the project, and it will blow up in their faces.

  204. @Pat Boyle
    I think all this naked hatred against whites is a big mistake for blacks. East Asians with some justice feel they are equal or superior so you don't get much contempt for white accomplishment from them. Hispanics want the goose that lays those golden eggs so they too are circumspect. But Americans blacks no longer bother too conceal their desire to slaughter all whites.

    Let's face it blacks have not worked out in America. Lincoln, Jefferson and Washington never could believe that blacks could ever be social equals to whites. As it turns out - they were right.

    Since the sixties America has embraced a kind of optimism about prospects for racial blending. But all the evidence for the success of racial equality is negative.

    There is a story earlier in this blog thread about America's opioid epidemic. It testifies to the hopelessness that young black men feel. I'm sure its correct. Probably the best way to interpret the black on black shooting that we see in Baltimore, Detroit and Chicago is that it is a new form of suicide - suicide by proxy. The social scientists refuse to believe it but the black kids in the ghetto know the odds against them ever becoming a normal member of society. So they shoot heroin into their arms and shoot their gun at other blacks.

    Meanwhile the white liberals and black militants become increasingly more strident. They have grants and maybe even tenure. They are a long way from the grim realities of street black life. So they indulge in nasty panegyrics against white people. They feel better for this. Most other blacks have no outlet for their frustration. They at least can scream.

    But hating whites is not cost-free. We know that the only people to ever drop an atomic device were white people. We know that the famous Nazi genocide of the Jews was done by white people. So no should doubt that whites can be very nasty indeed. It is in the best long term interest of blacks to cool it - to mollify whites and hope for some answer to emerge. The present course of white liberals and black radicals to spew undiluted hatred at whites looks to me to be another suicide gesture.

    I think all this naked hatred against whites is a big mistake for blacks.

    Exactly correct.

    And who do you think taught them to act like this starting in the 1960s?

    And what do you think their motives were?

    If blacks ever wake up to how they have been used, and how badly, in the name of “civil” “rights,” there is going to be a reckoning…and suddenly the cry is going to be, “Help us, white man! Call the police/National Guard/Army/Navy/Coast Guard to save us!”

    Or so I’m told by conservative Jews of my acquaintance.

    We know that the only people to ever drop an atomic device were white people.

    You mean the guys who flew Enola Gay? No doubt. Most pilots and plane crews in the 1940s US were.

    What about the people who created the device/processes leading up to it in the Manhattan (ahem) Project?

    What about J. Robert Oppenheimer, Frank Oppenheimer, Albert Einstein, Neils Bohr, Leo Szilard, Nicholas Kurti, David Bohm, Rudolf Peierls, Felix Bloch, Paul Wigner, James Chadwick, James Franck, Otto Frisch, Edward Teller, Hans Bethe, Klaus Fuchs, Dick Feynmann, Louis Slotin, Louis Rosen, Morris Kolodney, Ted Hall, Samuel Cohen, Jacob Beser, Samuel Goldsmit, George Placzek, Eugene Rabinowich, Gregory Breit, David Greenglass, Victor Weisskopf, Alvin Weinberg, Isidor Rabi, Joseph Rotblat, George Koval, Stan Frankel, Franz Simon, and David Lilienthal?

    Were they “white people”?

    Were they “white people” when they worked for Hitler?

    Were they “white people” when they spied for Stalin?

    • Replies: @guest
    Their intention was to drop the bomb on Nazis, which clears up the apparent contradiction right there.

    I remember reading that one of them, after the Nazis were out of the war and it was clear politicians were intent on dropping it on Japan, said something like, "My God, it's as if these people actually *want* to use the thing." Um, why did you build it for them if you didn't want to use it?

    I realize the response would be, "Because we were afraid Nazis were going to invent it without us inventing it first." Which was a reasonable fear. But come on, you wanted to drop it on Germany. Tell the truth.

    Anyway, they solved the mistake of giving Whitebread America the bomb by handing it over to the Evil Empire, which at least back in the day had a bunch of their people in charge.

    , @Old Palo Altan
    Jewish physics?

    Perhaps Lenard and Stark were right about its baleful effect after all.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    We know that the only people to ever drop an atomic device were white people.
     
    White Democrats.

    Leave us "economic royalists" out of this.
    , @Jack D
    Were they “white people” when they worked for Hitler?

    Which of the above worked for Hitler? Any?

    Were they “white people” when they spied for Stalin?

    How many of the above were Soviet spies? A couple but most weren't.
    , @oddsbodkins
    They worked against Hitler, for the obvious reason. Then they formed the foundation of a physics and mathematics cognoscenti that gave the US a key technical edge over Stalin after the war. They were the most productive group of immigrants this country has ever had.

    I'm pretty sure a lot of the soldiers who didn't die invading Japan or fighting the Soviets conventionally were white.
  205. @AndrewR
    I recently watched Narcos on Netflix. Let's just say that a significant amount of "whitewashing" was done: characters who IRL were at least noticeably mestizo if not overwhelmingly indio were played by much whiter actors. In one case, there's a general who has a two flashback scenes: one from his childhood and one as a young man. In both the flashback scenes he's played by actors who may actually be 100% non-white, but as a late middle aged man he's played by a man who looks fresh off the boat from Madrid.

    I believe there's also characters played by actors less white than the real people off of whom they're based.

    The most amusing miscasting is of the first two season's main character: Pablo Escobar. Wagner Moura is no less white than Escobar was but not only is he not from Medellin, or Colombia, he's not even a native Spanish speaker.

    One of the Cali Cartel's capos is played by a Portuguese guy too.

    All and all it's a great show but I chuckled at some of the casting choices.
    It's probably relatively immune to SJW rent-seeking given that most [all???] SJWs are really stupid and don't understand racial realities in Latin America.

    Have you seen Season 3 yet? They feature some full-blown SJW poz with an intimate gay dancing scene with Pacho. It was so unnecessary and so graphic. Really turned me off from watching any more of the show.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Lmao very snowflaky of you.

    The real Pacho was indeed openly homosexual. I thought the scene was great because it demonstrated the power that he had in Cali. How many gay guys in Colombia could have been so open with their sexuality in that era or even now outside of a gay club? The juxtaposition of the dance with his murder of the guy immediately afterwards made for a very interesting, and shocking, scene.

    A lot of things in that show are graphic. I think you're highly overreacting.
  206. @Joe Sweet
    along those same lines...Here's George Clooney defending his current movie at the SWPL Olympiad known as the Toronto International Film Festival against charges of tone-deaf portrayal of blacks (and other race issues in Hollywood).

    http://www.indiewire.com/2017/09/george-clooney-interview-suburbicon-diversity-hollywood-1201874750/


    “Of course, Charlottesville happens, because every few years Charlottesville happens again,” he said. “We keep forgetting that we haven’t excised that original sin completely. When I was growing up in Kentucky, the civil-rights movement had its big wave and segregation was exorcised from this country. We really felt like we were on this trajectory toward it all being finished. It wasn’t something you thought would be around. It’s a surprise that it’s still a part of our world.”

    As a filmmaker, Clooney said it took years for him to tackle race because he had yet to find the right project. “A lot of people ask me why I haven’t done any movies about Darfur or South Sudan,” he said, recalling his advocacy in the region. “Well, I haven’t found the script that’s right to do it. My personal life and where I go — philanthropic things — have always been toward whatever is inclusive, not exclusive. That’s always been an important part of my life. It’s just hard to find those films.”

    But Clooney added that he would rather see more minority filmmakers work their way into the industry, echoing the rise of Mexican filmmakers in Hollywood over a decade ago —the so-called “Three Amigos” of Alfonso Cuaron, Alejandro Gonzalez Iñarritu, and Guillermo del Toro, whose “The Shape of Water” just won the Golden Lion at the Venice International Film Festival.

    “All these great Mexican filmmakers showed up, it was like, fuck, this is great filmmaking,” Clooney said. “That’s what I’d like to see… some really interesting young filmmakers out there. You want to feel something fresh and new constantly. You want people pushing the limits. There’s a way to make things much cheaper now so there are a lot of different voices out there.”
     

    What a nitwit. He apparently thinks because these three Mexican directors have names similar to the guys who do the yard work at his LA mansion that they look like his gardeners too. There's nothing "minority" about those three amigos unless you are taking the global view and are recognizing that whites are a minority.

    http://www.trbimg.com/img-54e7f3ee/turbine/la-apphoto-fox-s-golden-globe-awards-party1-jpg-20150220/1150/1150x647

    Lends credence to the idea you must sell your soul and worship Jewish filmmakers to make it in Hollywood.

  207. @Anonymous
    In this case, she's not using it because it's just a general negative intensifier. She's using it because she's playing to domestic politics, and on the domestic political scene, Putin has been explicitly embraced as a "white authoritarian leader" of sorts by white nationalists, regardless of what Putin himself really is.

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/richard-spencer-trump-alt-right-white-nationalist/

    Spencer calls Russia “the most powerful white power in the world” and admires Vladimir Putin’s authoritarianism—he would gladly admit most Russians into his ideal ethnostate.
     
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/page/ct-trump-putin-russia-perspec-0517-20170516-story.html

    Rising self-described white nationalist Matthew Heimbach also has praised Putin's Russia as "the axis for nationalists," according to an interview by Business Insider. "I really believe that Russia is the leader of the free world right now," he told the news website. "Putin is supporting nationalists around the world and building an anti-globalist alliance, while promoting traditional values and self-determination."
     

    I honestly don’t understand why the Western right keeps falling for these guys (their last love affair was with Hitler – that didn’t turn out well either). Yes, they hate the decadent West and you hate the decadent West, but that doesn’t mean that they are your friends.

    First of all, Putin is from a place that is outside of all Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality or freedom or fair play. Americans , no matter how rightist, would never allow themselves to be ruled by a Putin.

    2nd, Putin himself doesn’t give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy. Putin sees the world as a series of concentric loyalties – his #1 loyalty is to himself and his family, then to his inner circle, then to the Russian people and YOU are way,way outside the circle of trust.

    • Agree: Abe
    • Replies: @Anon
    Putin has improved the living standard for the average Russian and improved the Russian economy quite a bit. This is a big departure from all his predecessors be they communists or Tsars, who all just lined their own pockets and didn't care about the average person. It's also a big departure for an autocrat, period. Autocrats all over the world in all eras just look after themselves and don't care about the 'little people.' Putin didn't have to bother, but he did. That indicates to me that he is moved by something other than simple self-interest.
    , @AM

    I honestly don’t understand why the Western right keeps falling for these guys (their last love affair was with Hitler – that didn’t turn out well either). Yes, they hate the decadent West and you hate the decadent West, but that doesn’t mean that they are your friends.
     
    I think the question is, despite repeated attempts to explain it to you, do you understand anything about the Western society around you...like at all? Yes, Americans think everyone wants to them, but so Jews, so do the French, so does everyone on the planet. It takes a lot of imagination and displine to see someone else's POV and appreciated for what it is.

    @Anon stated it better, but quite simply, it's obvious that Putin is invested in Russia's future acts along those lines. Agree with statism or don't (it's not like Russia can really afford "real" communism anymore) or whatever specific actions he takes. The administration from this Western is that he's acting like steward for his people.

    In fairness, Hitler acted that way. However, pulled switcheroo on the German people after it was all too late. That happens, too. Hitler's genocides are huge moral issue - but his turncoat actions on his people were another aspect that doesn't get talked about very much. That's why so much of the SJW stuff is projection about Trump. Probably the least likely person to have turned turncoat is Trump and the most likely is Hilary Clinton.
    , @anonymous

    First of all, Putin is from a place that is outside of all Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality or freedom or fair play.
     
    You could say that about every nation not named the UK, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

    2nd, Putin himself doesn’t give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy. Putin sees the world as a series of concentric loyalties
     
    You could say this about every nation that is not in North America or Western Europe.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Putin himself doesn’t give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy ...

    YOU are way, way outside the circle of trust.
     

    A big part of it is who Putin pisses off. When Spencer and company continue to praise Putin, they’re fully aware that globalist ‘cosmopolitans’ like Stephens, Boot, and Gessen (#103) will get that much more vocally neurotic. Which leads to more woke goyish noticing.

    The “Western right” (I think you mean alt-right?) knows that ‘cosmopolitans’ don’t give a rat’s ass for white-bread Americans—in fact regards them (along with almost everyone else) as their enemy.

    White-bread ‘fellow Americans’ are way, way outside their circle of trust.

    , @Cagey Beast
    First of all, Putin is from a place that is outside of all Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality or freedom or fair play. Americans , no matter how rightist, would never allow themselves to be ruled by a Putin.

    Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality, freedom and fair play carry on only vestigially. The mother country -- home of Speaker's Corner and Westminster -- now jails people for rude tweets. The social contract between Crown, nobility, gentry and yeomanry was broken with de-industrialization and mass immigration and emigration. White Anglosphere countries must metaphorically pass one another in the street like strangers because it would be racist to suggest Canada has more in common with Australia or New Zealand than it does with Burma or Burundi.

    You mention freedom and fair play and I point to the last sixteen or twenty-six years of "Wag The Dog", spin and a kind of low cult of Lie Magic that guides the words and actions of our governing classes. British and American civic virtues are being smothered if they're not already dead.

    Being considered far outside Putin's circle of trust would a step up from where the Bush family, Mitt Romney, the Clintons, Dave Cameron, Tony Blair, John McCain or Theresa May place us. Neutrality from a faraway leader is better than active hostility at home.

    , @anonymous

    First of all, Putin is from a place that is outside of all Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality or freedom or fair play.
     
    You could say that about every nation not named the UK, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

    2nd, Putin himself doesn’t give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy. Putin sees the world as a series of concentric loyalties
     
    You could say this about every nation that is not in North America or Western Europe.
    , @Cagey Beast
    I was just reminded of your appeal to the "Anglo-Saxon" ideas of ideas of morality or freedom and fair play when I read this:

    World Anti-Doping Agency Clears 95 Russian Athletes
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/12/sports/olympics/russian-doping-wada.html

    They used the anti-doping charge to punish Russia before the Olympics in Rio and now they quietly inform us there was no case. How very typical.

    The Anglosphere has been in a spiral of increasingly weasel-like, mendacious, shameless and cowardly tricks of this sort since at least the era of George Bush Sr. and John Major. The Russians seem to have a stronger sense of gentlemanly fair play than we do now. The Anglosphere is degenerate and has been for quite a while. I can say so because it's my Anglosphere too.
  208. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    The fundamental problem with Hillary and the white Democrats is that they don’t understand the difference between Raising Up and Pushing Down. They crow about how great it is and noble they are to raise up minorities, and they’ve been able to get somewhere with this narrative for the past 40 years, but they don’t understand the narrative of pushing whites down falls flat for whites. No one votes for their own oppression, absolutely nobody. All this talk about pushing whites down just strips away the veil of nobility and makes it plain that all minorites want is an ugly, naked power/money grab which they don’t deserve any more than anyone else does.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Either math is not their strong suit or else they pretend it is not. They claim that they are practicing "positive" discrimination or just giving people a leg up (from FDR onward Democrats have been great at manipulating the language to make essentially Communist or Statist projects sound as American as apple pie - who could be against giving people a leg up?). The problem is that in many areas (e.g. college admissions) the # of seats, etc. is fixed in the short run so this is what is known as a "zero sum game" - if I "help" one person then I can only do so by "hurting" someone else but white people were not supposed to notice that they were on the losing end of the game. If you "noticed" this made you a "racist" so shut up, you racist. This is not really a recipe for winning love and affection - the beatings will continue until morale improves! And of course, they exempted themselves from their own rules - letting more blacks into Stanford did not mean that Chelsea couldn't attend, it meant that some farm boy from Iowa couldn't go.
  209. @Declane
    Just out of curiosity I googled the president of Mexico to see how white he looked. He looks as white as the average Italian-American in my neighborhood. It's funny how people talk about Mexicans and racism and all that without ever acknowledging that there are basically two races in Mexico - the ones with a drop of native blood and the ones with a bucket.

    But he is 5'7" so at least he shows his solidarity with his lessers by not reaching his full European height.

    Average male height in Spain is about 5’8″ or 5’9″.

  210. @res
    She is on the way, but I think she needs to take a field trip to post-Somali Minneapolis:

    I come from Minnesota, land of the Lutheran. In Minnesota, the police pull you over if you are going 5 mph over the speed limit. And there are actually police to pull you over. Drinking and driving? You lose your license the first time. As it should be.
     
    P.S. Agree with it or not that article is a good example of state-level immigriping.

    I don’t quite see it as immigriping: a.) she says she’s leaving (if only other immigripers would do the same); b.) she’s not asking for special status or protection – she asks for rule of law.

    • Replies: @res
    I think it is immigriping, but I agree with you that she is not showing the most pathological behaviors associated with it which you describe. Perhaps we need more detailed words? immidemanding might work conceptually, but it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
    , @Jack Hanson
    She's from Minnesota.

    I'm more likely to believe that she's reacting hysterically.
  211. @Matthew Kelly
    Did it not begin with Susan Sontag?

    If not Sontag, then Norman Mailer and his infamous “White Negro” essay.
    “Sophisticated” white people romanticizing blacks as more earthy and authentic goes back at least to the 1940s. By extension, it turns into self-hatred of these whites as they disown their parents’ musical tastes, etc. It took til the 60s with Mailer and Sontag to openly start inverting the old hierarchy of racial superiority assumptions.

    • Agree: Travis, Seneca
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Romanticizing blacks goes back to the abolitionists. Here is a passage from "The Works of William E. Channing, D.D.," originally written in 1841:

    The African carries within him, much more than we, the germs of a 
meek, long-suffering, loving virtue. A 
short residence among the negroes in the West Indies impressed me with 
their capacity of improvement. On all sides I heard of their religious tendencies, the noblest in human nature. I 
saw, too, on the plantation where I 
resided, a gracefulness and dignity of 
form and motion, rare in my own native 
New England. And this is the race 
which has been selected to be trodden 
down and confounded with the brutes.

    Undoubtedly the negroes are debased, 
for were slavery not debasing, I should 
have little quarrel with it. But let not 
their degradation be alleged in proof of 
peculiar incapacity of moral elevation. 
They are given to theft; but there is 
no peculiar, aggravated guilt in stealing 
from those by whom they are robbed 
of all their rights and their very persons. 
They are given to falsehood; but this 
is the very effect produced by oppression on the Irish peasantry. They are undoubtedly sensual; and yet the 
African countenance seldom shows that coarse, brutal sensuality which is so 
common in the face of the white man. 
I should expect from the African race, 
if civilized, less energy, less courage, less intellectual originality, than in our 
race, but more amiableness, tranquillity, gentleness, and content. They might 
not rise to an equality in outward condition but would probably be a much 
happier race. There is no reason for holding such a race in chains: they 
need no chain to make them harmless.
     
  212. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Hillary’s ghostwriter is using “white” because Hillary wants to be a victim. She’s a narcissist who can’t accept that she wasn’t good enough to beat a guy like Trump, so she rationalizes her defeat as coming from some outside force. In her mind, it’s not because she’s politically tone-deaf (attacking whites after Dallas), incompetent (Putin = white nationalist), out-of-touch (“the only thing wrong with the Iraq war was that I didn’t order it because it would have gone swimmingly if I had”), dangerous (“Trump should have attacked EVERY Syrian airbase!”), corrupt ($32 million in speaking fees), or a cheat (Bernie Sanders) — no, no, no…it’s the fault of the evil whites! Imma victim, imma victim!

    Never-mind Hillary’s racial hypocrisy:

    1. made damn sure Chelsea went to a private school back when they lived in majority-black D.C.

    2. made damn sure she didn’t live around any blacks by moving to 94% white Chappaqua

    3. was responsible for floating the “Obama born in Kenya” line through her aides back in 2008

    4. regularly adopted a condescending black preacher accent when talking to blacks

  213. @Anonymous
    In this case, she's not using it because it's just a general negative intensifier. She's using it because she's playing to domestic politics, and on the domestic political scene, Putin has been explicitly embraced as a "white authoritarian leader" of sorts by white nationalists, regardless of what Putin himself really is.

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/richard-spencer-trump-alt-right-white-nationalist/

    Spencer calls Russia “the most powerful white power in the world” and admires Vladimir Putin’s authoritarianism—he would gladly admit most Russians into his ideal ethnostate.
     
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/page/ct-trump-putin-russia-perspec-0517-20170516-story.html

    Rising self-described white nationalist Matthew Heimbach also has praised Putin's Russia as "the axis for nationalists," according to an interview by Business Insider. "I really believe that Russia is the leader of the free world right now," he told the news website. "Putin is supporting nationalists around the world and building an anti-globalist alliance, while promoting traditional values and self-determination."
     

    i wonder if Putin’s American fan club is of any use to him or if they are viewed as either crazy or irrelevant

    • Replies: @Jack D
    They are only useful insofar as they throw sand in the gears of the American political system. Putin views the world as a zero sum game so that whatever weakens American strengthens Russia. This is the same reason Putin made (half-hearted and not very significant) attempts to mess with the election. While in reality these had no effect on the election (despite what Hillary and the Democrats keep saying) they are the kind of thing that Putin likes to do in order to mess with our heads, which he views as even steven because the West keeps sticking its nose in his business.

    I'm sure that they have no love for their American fans because they realize that if the situation was reversed they would regard these guys as traitors. In the old days, you could convince American traitors that they were spying for "world communism" which was a greater cause than mere American patriotism but nowadays they can't pretend that they represent anything but narrow Russian parochial interests.
  214. @grapesoda
    Because it's ESPN. They've been going full SJW for years now, in spite of tanking ratings and financial difficulties.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-28/espn-can-t-afford-to-go-on-like-this

    http://www.businessinsider.com/espns-layoffs-spell-trouble-for-live-sports-2017-3

    They also had a "groundbreaking" female-only announcing crew for the Monday night game, which all non-SJWs thought was terrible.

    ESPN is the Democratic Party of cable channels, ie too arrogant to try to correct their mistakes.

    I’ve actually grown to half-way like Doris Burke on NBA broadcasts (doing commentary, not play-by-play) so I consider myself open-minded to the idea, but I thought the MNF broadcast was–well, not terrible, but it wasn’t great. There is no doubt the only reason she got that spot was because she was a woman. She doesn’t have that great a voice and was at best merely competent. She didn’t seem to realize the final kick had been blocked–it was up to the male commentator to point that out–she just said it was missed.

  215. @anonymous-antimarxist
    "Field Honkies" is great but how about some more alternatives to go along.

    For example: "Podium Jockey" for when a "white???" beta male stands emasculated, covering his genitals and looking at his shoes, while allowing the strong and sassy black lesbian BLM activists push him aside to take their turns at the mike in accordance to their rights as part of the "progressive stack".

    https://www.google.com/search?q=photo+bernie+sanders+podium+blm&tbm=isch&imgil=sP_oqwszzCGeRM%253A%253BGidxYzzRGYRPEM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.seattletimes.com%25252Fseattle-news%25252Fshould-protesters-have-interrupted-bernie-sanders-rally%25252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=sP_oqwszzCGeRM%253A%252CGidxYzzRGYRPEM%252C_&usg=__L1PXicIGLYHKqLHuQtU5pLYXeOw%3D&biw=588&bih=323&ved=0ahUKEwi_psX8h6DWAhXm3YMKHSCnDqYQyjcIMw&ei=lgq4Wb-DKOa7jwSgzrqwCg#imgrc=sP_oqwszzCGeRM:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=photo+bernie+sanders+podium+blm&tbm=isch&imgil=sP_oqwszzCGeRM%253A%253BGidxYzzR

    "Field Honky" is a awesome phrase but a little forced in its imagery , but "Podium Jockey" is even more lethal because it comes with an already established cuckoldry image you just can not erase from your brain once you see it. Furthermore it brings to mind a primal fear all men have of being castrated/emasculated by one's opponent or yet ever more dreadful, an otherwise inferior female.

    About “Podium Jockey”;

    While it is an obvious play on Lawn Jockey, Lawn Jockey is really a misnomer. “Lawn Footman” would have been more correct, since it was the footman’s job to help his master dismount his horse or carriage and to walk the horses to the stable for a cool down and put them to down for the night in the stables.

    When middle class first folks moved to the suburbs and still thought as their cars as horseless carriages, the idea of having a symbolic statue posing as a Lawn Jockey or Footman was a nice touch.

    Still the idea of “white???” politician letting POC minorities have the microphone while they stand looking on and emasculated is a powerful image.

    Instead of “Field Honky” I think “House Honky” is better. And it is not just because of the alliteration but because the “House Honky” unlike the “Field Honky” can actually delude himself that people still care about his status and what he has to say.

    Increasingly White???, and especially White Goyim Democrats may delude themselves that what they think matters but they will find themselves viewed as irrelevant by those POC voters that they must have the support of.

  216. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    I honestly don't understand why the Western right keeps falling for these guys (their last love affair was with Hitler - that didn't turn out well either). Yes, they hate the decadent West and you hate the decadent West, but that doesn't mean that they are your friends.

    First of all, Putin is from a place that is outside of all Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality or freedom or fair play. Americans , no matter how rightist, would never allow themselves to be ruled by a Putin.

    2nd, Putin himself doesn't give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy. Putin sees the world as a series of concentric loyalties - his #1 loyalty is to himself and his family, then to his inner circle, then to the Russian people and YOU are way,way outside the circle of trust.

    Putin has improved the living standard for the average Russian and improved the Russian economy quite a bit. This is a big departure from all his predecessors be they communists or Tsars, who all just lined their own pockets and didn’t care about the average person. It’s also a big departure for an autocrat, period. Autocrats all over the world in all eras just look after themselves and don’t care about the ‘little people.’ Putin didn’t have to bother, but he did. That indicates to me that he is moved by something other than simple self-interest.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Some autocrats do stay in power a long time without improving the lives of their subjects, but it goes without saying that an autocrat has a much higher chance of staying in power if he does improve living standards for his people.
    , @Jack D
    Whatever improvement the Russian people have seen was mostly as a result of high oil prices and now that oil prices are back down these improvements are likely to fade. For every kopeck that the average Russian sees, Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies. BTW, the Russian standard of living did improve under the Communists (except at the very end when things started to fall apart). By world historical standards (and Putin standards) the Communists stole remarkably little for themselves because they really believed that stuff at the beginning. Mostly they just wasted it on the military and in inefficiency but they didn't actually steal much for themselves personally.
    , @Anon
    "Clooney is a loser who hasn’t been in a good movie since George W. was president"

    American, Descendants, Gravity, Tomorrowland.

    Not bad.

    "The Coens are also overrated hacks who make artsy-fartsy movies that appeal only to other hacks who like to think of themselves as more sophisticated than the lower classes they despise."

    As with Allen, they had their misses. But unlike Allen, even their lesser films have something to recommend them.

    And they had some homeruns, esp Barton Fink, Big Lebowski, and O Brother.

    Many of their films are enjoyable. At any rate, they've rarely been artsy-fartsy.
    They go for cult-middlebrow.

    Their most 'artsy' movie was maybe Inside Llewyn Davis. Lacks a core but has some images that linger. Works as mood piece.

    , @Anon
    "They’re not used to the idea that this country is fragmenting into masses that no longer assimilate and that-old fashioned coalition building no longer works on a national level."

    Not quite.

    Among non-white minorities, only two are problematic. Blacks and 'Hispanics'. Blacks are prone to violence, volume, and bad behavior. Mexicans(bulk of 'Hispanics') are not problematic per se, but there are now TOO MANY of them. This would not be a problem if Mexico was far away like Pakistan. But it has long border with the US.

    As for other non-white minorities, they could easily assimilate IF there was a solid, confident, and insistent majority and proud narrative. Back in 75 when I was living in a housing project filled with diversity, 'American' was synonymous with White, and no one was bothered by it or offended by it.

    It became a problem because of the rise of PC that instilled minority kids and then non-white intellectuals around the world with anti-white ideology. White Leftists injected anti-white-ness into these kids. Look at Canada. White teachers and professors fill non-white kids with anti-white hate. It's like a drug to white 'leftists' to feel so good about themselves as virtuous good whites dumping on bad whites and embracing 'diversity'.

    In many cases, you will find the immigrant parents of these kids are far less anti-white or not anti-white at all. It's their kids who pick it up from pop culture and PC.
    Also, multi-culturalism doesn't create separate identities in the US with the possible exception of Mexicans who have a historic claim to SW areas and are the solid majority in many parts of SW.
    For most non-black minorities, multi-culturalism just means bitching about whites. It's more about anti-white than pro-anything. After all, they willfully chose to leave their own nations, cultures, and peoples to come and live in a foreign land, the US. So, multi-culturalism puts them in a limbo. They don't want to be part of the old world and its heritage , which they eagerly left. Many cannot speak their own language or even know any history. Their entire worldview is pop culture and PC. But multi-culturalism tells them not to join with White. So, they are stuck in a limbo state. That is why these limbo-kids attach themselves to homo culture or black stuff(BLMx100 to enter Stanford, Seoul Brother, etc).

    Back in 75, before all this multi-cultural PC stuff, most non-whites just wanted to part of what they understood to be White America.

    Now, how did things turn out this way? Well, there is the factor of White Leftism. But there is also the problematic white minority, the Jewish Community that is paranoid about whiteness and Christianity and have been using 'white guilt' to tame and manipulate whites. For 'white guilt' to be activated, whites must be impugned as the oppressor vis-a-vis just about any minority group.
  217. P.S. If I order a Mugabe Jacket, should it have my face on it or Bob’s?

    Oh Steve,

    Please get the same one as Bob.

    Then post a Youtube video of you being interviewed wearing it.

    I can only image the internets going nuts over your act of cultural appropriation.

    It will drive lots of traffic to UNZ.com.

    The only drawback being that you would have to move over to the dark web with Andrew Anglin and blog from an undisclosed location.

  218. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “First of all, Putin is from a place that is outside of all Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality or freedom or fair play.”

    So. What does that matter? Most of the world comes from outside those same ideas, including most of the American left.

    “2nd, Putin himself doesn’t give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy.”

    1. People want a leader like Putin, not literally Putin himself.

    2. You seem to have an unhealthy, neoconesque fascination with Putin. In all of your posts about him, you overgeneralize, ascribe moral judgements, see conspiracy, and feign some kind of expert knowledge of his psychology that is most certainly not warranted.

    Putin is a guy like any other guy who cares about his interests. He is not especially evil or devious and not even on the same level of evil as our last two presidents, both of whom murdered thousands of innocent civilians with drone attacks and one of whom invaded an entire country based on lies about WMD, resulting in the deaths of thousands more.

  219. @Yak-15
    Have you seen Season 3 yet? They feature some full-blown SJW poz with an intimate gay dancing scene with Pacho. It was so unnecessary and so graphic. Really turned me off from watching any more of the show.

    Lmao very snowflaky of you.

    The real Pacho was indeed openly homosexual. I thought the scene was great because it demonstrated the power that he had in Cali. How many gay guys in Colombia could have been so open with their sexuality in that era or even now outside of a gay club? The juxtaposition of the dance with his murder of the guy immediately afterwards made for a very interesting, and shocking, scene.

    A lot of things in that show are graphic. I think you’re highly overreacting.

    • Replies: @Yak-15
    Yea probably
  220. @Anon
    Putin has improved the living standard for the average Russian and improved the Russian economy quite a bit. This is a big departure from all his predecessors be they communists or Tsars, who all just lined their own pockets and didn't care about the average person. It's also a big departure for an autocrat, period. Autocrats all over the world in all eras just look after themselves and don't care about the 'little people.' Putin didn't have to bother, but he did. That indicates to me that he is moved by something other than simple self-interest.

    Some autocrats do stay in power a long time without improving the lives of their subjects, but it goes without saying that an autocrat has a much higher chance of staying in power if he does improve living standards for his people.

  221. @bomag

    America’s Left saw its opportunity in eliding the difference between most Whites’ cordial but wary relations between Blacks, and the Nazis’ attitude toward disfavored underclasses.
     
    Some of that.

    Part of it is that "Whites" were marketed as the ultimate can-do class that was going to fix all the world's problems. That the problems persist leads to blaming and shaming of those in power and a call for their replacement.

    Agree. I’m genuinely baffled by how those very decent men and women who came of age in the 1930s and 1940s were so quickly ensorcelled by some truly nasty and weird ideas that seem to have found a permanent home among Democrats. I’m guessing they were blindsided by Leftists of various stripes who had long viewed their fellow Americans as a sort of enemy of goodthinking. Among some pacifists and Blacks, White Americans were almost surely greater crimethinkers than Hitler because Hitler was there and White Americans were here. You’re right there are probably a few other major factors involved, but not a whole lot.

    Having grown up in the prosperous and confident America of the 1950s and 1960s, I guess I’m just tired of seeing so many Americans being scolded like a dog who’d just soiled the carpet by our truly rotten political elites.

  222. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    “i wonder if Putin’s American fan club is of any use to him or if they are viewed as either crazy or irrelevant”

    Actually, it is of tremendous use to us. Putin having a sizable fan club in the US might encourage him to be diplomatic and conciliatory so as to not lose any kind of respect and leverage he might have with them.

    People respect Putin because he looks out for his country’s interests. The US has not had a president who has done so in many years. That’s what people want – someone who is on their side for once.

    • Agree: Opinionator
  223. ‘In response Mobley says that Halls “apologised on behalf of England”, before putting on an exaggerated southern accent and joking: “Do you want some grits?”, in a reference to the ground corn dish popular in the south.’

    A Brit apologizes on behalf of England for the antebellum South? That’s hilarious.

    And I’d love to hear a Brit put on a southern drawl or a Black from the deep south do a British accent.

    Moral of the story: Never drop your guard around Nice White Women. No jokes, no fun, no horseplay allowed.

    Moral II of the story: This is yet another reason to root against the Oregon Ducks.

  224. @Maj. Kong
    Buckets of Chinese (and soon Indian) money say otherwise.

    When was the last time a construction bubble went wrong?

  225. @Mr. Anon

    “Whatever reason” might include the fact that they considered much of the important theoretical underpinnings to be Jüdische Physik and therefore off limits from consideration in weapons design and the fact that many of their most important nuclear scientists were Jewish and therefore not able to participate in the effort.
     
    They didn't and it wasn't. Nobody outside of a handful of old and ambitious regime-aligned physicists, such as Stark and Lenard, believed all that crap about "jewish physics". Germany didn't lack for scientific and technical talent, even considering the exodus of physicists in the 30s. What they lacked was the material capability. Fighting a war on 1 1/2 - 2 fronts, and occupying most of Europe, and only being a nation of about 90 million (including Austria, and various other german enclaves), they just didn't have the wherewithal for such a massive undertaking. Especially as they were already engaged in another massive weapons program (which, as it happened, had no real military value) - the development of ballistic missiles. Heisenberg and others had concluded early on in the War that developing a nuclear weapon (if it were possible at all) could never be accomplished in time to have any impact on the outcome of the War. I believe they thought that applied to us too.

    I believe they thought that applied to us too.

    They were right in the European theater – the American bomb came too late to affect the war in Europe. Although I am not sure that Berlin and Hamburg would have looked that much worse if they had been nuked instead of relentlessly bombed.

    It’s true that the Germans chose to concentrate their efforts on the ballistic missile rather than the nuclear warhead and that their resources were not unlimited, but still I think that the exodus of Jewish scientists and the ill repute of “Jewish physics” had more of an impact than you admit. By the end of the war, the Germans had made surprisingly little progress, even on the theoretical front. Out of 26 German nuclear physicists cited in the literature before 1933, 50% emigrated. The ones that stayed – Diebner, Esau, Gerlach, Schumann, etc. – were not exactly the #1 names in 20th century nuclear physics – they were definitely the “B” team. Deutsche Physik hacks were given undue promotions and Heisenberg only survived because his ma was friends with Himmler’s ma.

    This wiki is I think a fair treatment and points to the exodus of scientific talent as an important if not the only factor:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_weapon_project

    It might have been that they wouldn’t have achieved nuclear weapons anyway, but losing their best scientists sure didn’t help. Many of the guys that they lost ended up being key players in the American effort so it was a double hit.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    I watched a documentary once about the German nuclear program during the war and they quoted Heisenberg as saying he intentionally sabotaged it as he didn't want blood on his hands.

    The man was right -- now its on ours and it hasn't come off since....

    Nor can we stop rogue idiots from expanding their usage of these WMDs.....
    , @anonymous

    By the end of the war, the Germans had made surprisingly little progress, even on the theoretical front.
     
    Germans discovered nuclear fission in 1938.
    , @Mr. Anon

    It’s true that the Germans chose to concentrate their efforts on the ballistic missile rather than the nuclear warhead and that their resources were not unlimited, but still I think that the exodus of Jewish scientists and the ill repute of “Jewish physics” had more of an impact than you admit.
     
    No. I've read a great deal about the subject. It wasn't the loss of talent. It was the (comparative) lack of resources.

    "By the end of the war, the Germans had made surprisingly little progress, even on the theoretical front."

    It wasn't a high priority. At best, they hoped to build a reactor. They weren't even trying to enrich Uranium.

    "Out of 26 German nuclear physicists cited in the literature before 1933, 50% emigrated. The ones that stayed – Diebner, Esau, Gerlach, Schumann, etc. – were not exactly the #1 names in 20th century nuclear physics – they were definitely the “B” team. Deutsche Physik hacks were given undue promotions and Heisenberg only survived because his ma was friends with Himmler’s ma."

    That is a mischaracterization of the actual history. Heisenberg was not saved because of his connections to Nazi higher-ups. He was one of the most prominent scientists in Germany at the time, second perhaps only to Planck. And the term "nuclear physicist" barely existed prior to 1933, so any kind of ranking based on that isn't that meaningful.

    "It might have been that they wouldn’t have achieved nuclear weapons anyway, but losing their best scientists sure didn’t help. Many of the guys that they lost ended up being key players in the American effort so it was a double hit."

    Germany did not lose "their best scientists". They lost some of the their best scientists. Most of the physicists who worked on the bomb in the U.S. were American, with an admixture of English and european ex-pats (like Fermi). There were also some german (or other european) Jews who worked on it, some of whom were quite important - Hans Bethe most prominently. Some german-jewish refugee physicists, like Otto Stern and Max Born, didn't work on military projects at all (as far as I can tell), let alone on the A-bomb.

    There were plenty of competent physicists left in Germany. And who knows, Germany might have pulled it off if they had had twice the population they did, greater natural resources and industrial plant, and didn't have to divert an enormous amount of their effort into enslaving a whole continent. In short, if they were America.

    , @anonymous

    By the end of the war, the Germans had made surprisingly little progress, even on the theoretical front.
     
    Germans discovered nuclear fission in 1938.
  226. @eah
    OT

    Inside The Opioid Crisis: What The Mainstream Media Won't Let You See

    http://stockboardasset.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Screen-Shot-2017-09-11-at-9.23.02-AM-1.png

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/451247/steve-bannon-wrong-george-w-bush-foreign-policy-kept-america-safe-post-911

    THIS IS WHY BANNON WAS LET GO.

    Yeah Ivanka, etc probably had something to do with the technicals but thing about it — it was the nasty bloodthirsty chickenhawk neocon SCUM who did it. And their freak show assortment of hangers-on, crony capitalist welfare bums, etc who all leaned REAL heavy on Trump and his various “generals” advisers to cut Bannon loose.

    Think about it for a second.

    War is bad for us but great for military contractors. What would Boeing/Halliburton/Raytheon, etc have done if Trump actually started de-escalating the ME and let those people to their own devices and their own natural habits without us being globocop?

    Not many know but the military budget/DoD budget went UP under Obama EVERY SINGLE YEAR of his administration save 2012 or 2013. And in the year it didn’t go up — it didn’t go up because Obama wanted it to go up but wanted to pay for it with a TAX INCREASE — you know — like how we used to pay for wars with war taxes. But the anarchist-libertarian nutjobs in the GOP tea party movement wanted war financed on the money printer credit card instead. So boom we got a slight cut in the Pentagon budget for a single year.

    To understand the power and influence of this constituency, in 2009 during the dark bowels of the Bush downtown recession EVERYBODY was getting cut. Businesses, etc.

    Guess who didn’t? That’s right — the Pentagon had a I believe I recall a 3% budget hike. Thinking back, it may have been more. Like 4-5%. So while everybody else was getting fucked, they were getting stuffed with free cash.

    As I’ve found out the hard way over the last few years — NO MATTER WHAT IN OUR SYSTEM — somebody loses, and somebody wins, “just a matter of who(m).”

    Think about it — all those military industrial shareholders, industrial trade bodies, to a lesser extent unions, etc — they all stand to lose TRILLIONS in free USA govt money financed via you and me. Because like the black welfare queen smoking crack in her Section 8 shithole shanty trailer or crackden apartment complex — what will these corporate welfare types do if the govt teet is suddenly cut off? My God — they’d have to go out and do what the rest of us suckers do — WORK for our money and our living with our hands or brains and a combination there of. And that requires EFFORT and more importantly WORK — and who the fuck wants to do an icky thing like that?

    I should know — every Sat & Sun mornings I wake up at 4 am and walk a mile to my fast food job where I use bleach to scrub fossilized shit and feces off the toilet bowl. Does it suck? Yeah. But if I didn’t do this I literally would be BEGGING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WITH A SIGN BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OTHER STINKING JOBS WHERE I LIVE besides being a cop for a lousy $11/hour. And no, I”m not making that up, welcome to the Deep South.

    For that — I’ll stay at my shit $8/hour Mickey D’s crap job….

    But think about this — all those hangers on and welfare bums who make their bread and their cheese off the Pentagon budget doing “contractor work”, etc.

    The shame if they actually have to go out and do what I do — WALK on my 2 feet from one end of town to the other begging people for employment. Work sucks. As it should.

    Not all of us though are dumb enough to see this as a simple left/right argument.

    We need MILITARY TRIALS or in the least FEDERAL murder/treason trials of neocon subversives. These people are SNAKES IN THE GRASS. TRY THEM BEFORE A JURY OF THEIR PEERS and them HANG OR SHOOT THEM DEAD.

    Don’t send them to Israel or some far off locale, don’t jail them, don’t allow them to breathe. They have blood on their hands and Bannon fucked up thinking he could be a gentleman around these people when they’ve already shown time & again that not only are they bloodthirsty — but they’ll murder civilians to keep their pscyhotic wars and ME graft scam game going…..

    WE NEED TRIALS. RUTHLESSNESS IS OUR ONLY OPTION AT THIS POINT. And please, stop going after minorities or Jews or w/ever. Most minorities are just dumber versions of us. Working proles in the same boat we are in. This is a war against neocon elites. And if we don’t start talking blood and trials — then we will continue to lose with our tail between our legs. Look how Trump got his ass handed to him and now he talks like a gelded cuck.

    The neocons have to BE PURGED and PUT ON TRIAL. No other solution will satiate the country’s ills. Every other issue is background noise before then.

    “This threat has receded as Trump has quite wisely ditched his isolationist campaign rhetoric, expanding American military efforts in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, and Afghanistan.

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/451247/steve-bannon-wrong-george-w-bush-foreign-policy-kept-america-safe-post-911″”

    So in other words — Trump was forced over or bought over by the neocons. These people are the single de facto number one threat to the national security and physical and political integrity of our country, money supply, future and vitality. They MUST be brought to justice and purged from the Trump White HOuse.

  227. @Jack D

    I believe they thought that applied to us too.
     
    They were right in the European theater - the American bomb came too late to affect the war in Europe. Although I am not sure that Berlin and Hamburg would have looked that much worse if they had been nuked instead of relentlessly bombed.

    It's true that the Germans chose to concentrate their efforts on the ballistic missile rather than the nuclear warhead and that their resources were not unlimited, but still I think that the exodus of Jewish scientists and the ill repute of "Jewish physics" had more of an impact than you admit. By the end of the war, the Germans had made surprisingly little progress, even on the theoretical front. Out of 26 German nuclear physicists cited in the literature before 1933, 50% emigrated. The ones that stayed - Diebner, Esau, Gerlach, Schumann, etc. - were not exactly the #1 names in 20th century nuclear physics - they were definitely the "B" team. Deutsche Physik hacks were given undue promotions and Heisenberg only survived because his ma was friends with Himmler's ma.

    This wiki is I think a fair treatment and points to the exodus of scientific talent as an important if not the only factor:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_weapon_project

    It might have been that they wouldn't have achieved nuclear weapons anyway, but losing their best scientists sure didn't help. Many of the guys that they lost ended up being key players in the American effort so it was a double hit.

    I watched a documentary once about the German nuclear program during the war and they quoted Heisenberg as saying he intentionally sabotaged it as he didn’t want blood on his hands.

    The man was right — now its on ours and it hasn’t come off since….

    Nor can we stop rogue idiots from expanding their usage of these WMDs…..

  228. @Guy de Champlagne
    Yeah Putin is such a great leader that he's almost gotten Russian life expectancy back up to soviet levels. What a man!

    Yeah Putin is such a great leader that he’s almost gotten Russian life expectancy back up to soviet levels. What a man!

    I assume life expectancy figures did not include the millions whose lives were shortened by gulags and such in the USSR? That really tended to put a damper on retirement plans.

    I love the snark over leaders who take over nightmarish situations and make them even marginally better.

    “Sure, I probably couldn’t have done any better if I were in charge, but this is a great opportunity to minimize any step in the right direction.”

  229. @Anon
    Putin has improved the living standard for the average Russian and improved the Russian economy quite a bit. This is a big departure from all his predecessors be they communists or Tsars, who all just lined their own pockets and didn't care about the average person. It's also a big departure for an autocrat, period. Autocrats all over the world in all eras just look after themselves and don't care about the 'little people.' Putin didn't have to bother, but he did. That indicates to me that he is moved by something other than simple self-interest.

    Whatever improvement the Russian people have seen was mostly as a result of high oil prices and now that oil prices are back down these improvements are likely to fade. For every kopeck that the average Russian sees, Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies. BTW, the Russian standard of living did improve under the Communists (except at the very end when things started to fall apart). By world historical standards (and Putin standards) the Communists stole remarkably little for themselves because they really believed that stuff at the beginning. Mostly they just wasted it on the military and in inefficiency but they didn’t actually steal much for themselves personally.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @anonymous

    )the Communists stole remarkably little for themselves because they really believed that stuff at the beginning.
     
    At the beginning? At the beginning the communists were at their bloodiest. As for stealing, what do you call the great land from the kulaks? The communists ended up with the blood of millions on their hands in their efforts to collectivize, i.e. steal, the land.
    , @Autochthon

    Communists stole remarkably little for themselves because they really believed that stuff at the beginning. Mostly they just wasted it on the military and in inefficiency but they didn’t actually steal much for themselves personally.
     
    You could just as easily be writing about the behaviour (at least since the War of Northern Aggression) of politicians in what used to be the U.S.A.
    , @Anatoly Karlin

    Whatever improvement the Russian people have seen was mostly as a result of high oil prices and now that oil prices are back down these improvements are likely to fade.
     
    There was a mild 2 year recession and now the economy is growing again.

    For every kopeck that the average Russian sees, Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies.
     
    Yeah, this is nonsense.
    , @bored identity



    A. " By world historical standards (and Putin standards) the Communists stole remarkably little for themselves because they really believed that stuff at the beginning. "

    B. (((...)))

    C. "...Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies."

     

    Hey Tdzak, you've missed to disclose in your "ABC 's Of Who's Robbing Russians" expose anything about, by world historical standards, Grand Theft Country that occured AFTER USSR Communists departed, and BEFORE Vlad took power over remnants of the evil empire


    bored identity will take this opportunity to remind commentariat that , by iSteve historical standards, Semibankirschina is something that Tdzak D prefers to ignore everytime he mccaines some warmongering bovine excrement against The Evil Emperor That Couldn't:



    https://youtu.be/Q2Cl8lSv9Is?t=47m11s


    "Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn used term 'Semibankirschina' in his critical 1998 essay Russia under Avalanche to describe the current political regime and to warn people of what he considered an organized crime syndicate that controlled the President and 70% of all Russian money.

    The identities of seven bankers are usually linked to the interview given by Boris Berezovsky to Financial Times where he names seven people who together controlled about 50% of all Russian economics and influenced the most important internal political decisions of Russia:

    Boris Berezovsky
    Mikhail Fridman
    Vladimir Gusinsky
    Mikhail Khodorkovsky
    Vladimir Potanin
    Alexander Smolensky
    Pyotr Aven

    also,
    Vladimir Vinogradov
    and Vitaly Malkin.

    They formed what became known as Semibankirschina (or seven bankers), a small group of business moguls with a great influence on Boris Yeltsin and his political environment.

    Together they controlled from 50% to 70% of all Russian finances between 1996 and 2000.

    Fridman, Potanin, Aven and Malkin are the only ones on the list to have retained their influence in the Putin era.

    Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky and Gusinsky "have been purged by the Kremlin."
    , @anonymous

    )the Communists stole remarkably little for themselves because they really believed that stuff at the beginning.
     
    At the beginning? At the beginning the communists were at their bloodiest. As for stealing, what do you call the great land from the kulaks? The communists ended up with the blood of millions on their hands in their efforts to collectivize, i.e. steal, the land.
  230. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Cagey Beast
    Steve Bannon is right to say Hillary's not very bright about national politics but she's a genius at the level of social politics. At the matriarchal game she's unmatched. She stood by wayward Bill because she saw the long game, she got her plain daughter married off well and her Clinton Foundation is a comfortable little nest egg by even Saudi standards. She's even a bit of a living martyr at the hands of mean White men. That last bit is the cherry on top of the White lady masterpiece that is her life.

    I’m not certain Hillary’s so good at the matriarchial thing. Cheating Bill has humiliated her multiple times in public and made her eat dirt. The plain daughter now has a crook father-in-law, a bankrupt mother-in-law, and a hubby whose hedge fund keeps losing astonishing sums of money through sheer ineptitude. As for the Clinton foundation, the strong arm of the law has been nibbling at it for some time, and under Trump things may very well shift into gear for a full investigation. Hillary’s emails have been coming under closer scrutiny because of the moronic antics of her sycophants, namely Comey and Wasserman-Schultz, so I don’t think Hillary will escape in the long run. If she, or Chelsea makes signs that they’re going to run for office in the future, a Republican Jusice Department is going to go after the Clinton Foundation. As for their money, I think it’s likely that most it will be reduced to nothing within 20 years. The Clintons are massive spendthrifts, and once it’s in the hands Chelsea and her boneheaded husband, it will disappear.

  231. @Charles Pewitt
    Whites Without College Degrees(WWCDs) thoroughly dislike mass immigration and multicultural mayhem. In the 2016 presidential election, Hillary Clinton and the Democrat Party was offering open borders mass immigration, amnesty for illegal alien infiltrators and more multicultural mayhem. White voters went with the candidate who promised to deport illegal alien infiltrators, dramatically reduce legal immigration and build a wall on the border between the United States and Mexico.

    President Trump had the brains and balls to win the votes of WWCDs and the ability as a billionaire to maintain many of the votes of upper middle class White voters. Now Hillary Clinton stalks around her imperial compound in the mostly White town of Chappaqua, New York in an alcoholic frenzy induced by her bitterness at having been denied the presidency by Donald John Trump and his army of Whites Without College Degrees.

    his army of Whites Without College Degrees.

    Or, in other words, poorly educated losers.

    Is that supposed to be a badge of honour for the orange ogre? (rhetorically speaking :))

  232. @Jack D
    You could say that declaring victory prematurely is a common failure of the Left, but you have to understand that the reason that they do it is that they see themselves as being on "the right side of history" and that so often their declarations of victory succeed in creating facts on the ground.

    This usually works (see gay marriage), and usually they are able to suppress any visible white/traditionalist backlash - anyone who protests at being placed upon the garbage heap of history is declared to be a Nazi and doxxed. Unfortunately for Hillary we still have the secret ballot though I predict that Leftists will go after that soon. Aren't we entitled to know how you voted so we can know not to hire you? Why should fascists be allowed to hide their fascist beliefs behind the curtain of the voting booth?

    Unfortunately for Hillary we still have the secret ballot though I predict that Leftists will go after that soon. Aren’t we entitled to know how you voted so we can know not to hire you? Why should fascists be allowed to hide their fascist beliefs behind the curtain of the voting booth?

    Didn’t we already see the start of this with the purging of Brendan Eich for his Prop. 8 vote?

    • Replies: @res

    Didn’t we already see the start of this with the purging of Brendan Eich for his Prop. 8 vote?
     
    Sort of. It was for his campaign contribution not his vote.

    Outing campaign contributors to David Duke is a thing now: http://sfbayview.com/2017/08/outing-the-bay-area-campaign-contributors-of-kkk-fascist-david-duke/
  233. @Jack D
    I honestly don't understand why the Western right keeps falling for these guys (their last love affair was with Hitler - that didn't turn out well either). Yes, they hate the decadent West and you hate the decadent West, but that doesn't mean that they are your friends.

    First of all, Putin is from a place that is outside of all Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality or freedom or fair play. Americans , no matter how rightist, would never allow themselves to be ruled by a Putin.

    2nd, Putin himself doesn't give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy. Putin sees the world as a series of concentric loyalties - his #1 loyalty is to himself and his family, then to his inner circle, then to the Russian people and YOU are way,way outside the circle of trust.

    I honestly don’t understand why the Western right keeps falling for these guys (their last love affair was with Hitler – that didn’t turn out well either). Yes, they hate the decadent West and you hate the decadent West, but that doesn’t mean that they are your friends.

    I think the question is, despite repeated attempts to explain it to you, do you understand anything about the Western society around you…like at all? Yes, Americans think everyone wants to them, but so Jews, so do the French, so does everyone on the planet. It takes a lot of imagination and displine to see someone else’s POV and appreciated for what it is.

    stated it better, but quite simply, it’s obvious that Putin is invested in Russia’s future acts along those lines. Agree with statism or don’t (it’s not like Russia can really afford “real” communism anymore) or whatever specific actions he takes. The administration from this Western is that he’s acting like steward for his people.

    In fairness, Hitler acted that way. However, pulled switcheroo on the German people after it was all too late. That happens, too. Hitler’s genocides are huge moral issue – but his turncoat actions on his people were another aspect that doesn’t get talked about very much. That’s why so much of the SJW stuff is projection about Trump. Probably the least likely person to have turned turncoat is Trump and the most likely is Hilary Clinton.

  234. @Anon
    The fundamental problem with Hillary and the white Democrats is that they don't understand the difference between Raising Up and Pushing Down. They crow about how great it is and noble they are to raise up minorities, and they've been able to get somewhere with this narrative for the past 40 years, but they don't understand the narrative of pushing whites down falls flat for whites. No one votes for their own oppression, absolutely nobody. All this talk about pushing whites down just strips away the veil of nobility and makes it plain that all minorites want is an ugly, naked power/money grab which they don't deserve any more than anyone else does.

    Either math is not their strong suit or else they pretend it is not. They claim that they are practicing “positive” discrimination or just giving people a leg up (from FDR onward Democrats have been great at manipulating the language to make essentially Communist or Statist projects sound as American as apple pie – who could be against giving people a leg up?). The problem is that in many areas (e.g. college admissions) the # of seats, etc. is fixed in the short run so this is what is known as a “zero sum game” – if I “help” one person then I can only do so by “hurting” someone else but white people were not supposed to notice that they were on the losing end of the game. If you “noticed” this made you a “racist” so shut up, you racist. This is not really a recipe for winning love and affection – the beatings will continue until morale improves! And of course, they exempted themselves from their own rules – letting more blacks into Stanford did not mean that Chelsea couldn’t attend, it meant that some farm boy from Iowa couldn’t go.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke

    BTW, the Russian standard of living did improve under the Communists (except at the very end when things started to fall apart).
     
    A good chunk of this was probably the kind of wealth redistribution a thief gets from stealing a Faberge egg. Around the beginning of the decade, the top 20% of the population owned over 90% of the wealth. At the time of the October Revolution a century ago, the concentration was probably higher. As the benefits of purloined wealth dissipated, Russia began to see real privation. What better way to kill two birds with one stone than to eliminate the kulak wreckers, further down the wealth scale, via starvation, while paving the way for the repurposing of their lands? Then WWII made it possible to further whittle down the population to keep it well within Malthusian bounds.
    , @Johann Ricke

    Whatever improvement the Russian people have seen was mostly as a result of high oil prices and now that oil prices are back down these improvements are likely to fade.
     
    Brazil ran into a similar situation, due to the bursting of the commodities bubble that had buoyed both economies while on the upswing. GDP per capita peaked at $13,242 in 2011, and was down at $8,810 in 2015. Russia's peak number was $15,559 in 2013. It was down at $9,521 in 2015.
    , @Johann Ricke

    Russian, even today’s rump Russia, is a multicultural society where you can be “Russian” by signing on to the great Russian statist project. Americans always make the mistake of assuming that everyone thinks just like Americans. Putin is impossible to understand in American terms and not a good role model for American white nationalists because Russian history is not like American history and Russians are not Americans.
     
    Precisely. The Russian raison d'etre since the time of Ivan the Terrible seems to have been never-ending territorial expansion. In the long run, rulers accommodate the views of the most numerous of their subjects. Even the ruthless Mongols became Muslims in majority Muslim regions. The real worry is that in the event that Russia brings the majority Muslim former Soviet Republics back into the fold, is that the demographic avalanche will eventually lead to a Muslim leader in charge of the biggest nuclear arsenal on earth. Note that the Chechen Ruslan Khasbulatov came within a hair's breadth of becoming the leader of Russia, almost prevailing over Yeltsin.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    ...letting more blacks into Stanford did not mean that Chelsea couldn’t attend, it meant that some farm boy from Iowa couldn’t go.
     
    Miss Chelsea, who makes Ron Reagan look like MIT material, is herself a beneficiary of affirmative action.
  235. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    I honestly don't understand why the Western right keeps falling for these guys (their last love affair was with Hitler - that didn't turn out well either). Yes, they hate the decadent West and you hate the decadent West, but that doesn't mean that they are your friends.

    First of all, Putin is from a place that is outside of all Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality or freedom or fair play. Americans , no matter how rightist, would never allow themselves to be ruled by a Putin.

    2nd, Putin himself doesn't give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy. Putin sees the world as a series of concentric loyalties - his #1 loyalty is to himself and his family, then to his inner circle, then to the Russian people and YOU are way,way outside the circle of trust.

    First of all, Putin is from a place that is outside of all Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality or freedom or fair play.

    You could say that about every nation not named the UK, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

    2nd, Putin himself doesn’t give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy. Putin sees the world as a series of concentric loyalties

    You could say this about every nation that is not in North America or Western Europe.

  236. @Tiny Duck
    More evil from white people

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/authorities-gold-miners-at-a-bar-bragged-about-slaughtering-members-of-a-reclusive-brazilian-tribe/ar-AArJeAo?OCID=ansmsnnews11

    blacks do worse than that every day in the U.S. (and where was Tiny Dick?)

    blacks also rape ~75 white women per day and the reverse almost never happens

  237. Hillary Clinton has pushed anti-White globalization for her whole political life. Wealthy donors paid her husband, Bill, and Hillary herself to use the governmental apparatus of the United States to further the sovereignty-sapping goals of the globalizer donors. Hillary Clinton could not overcome her own past actions nor her own past words to achieve her quest to become the first woman president of the United States.

    Hillary Clinton knew that her actions harmed the interests of tens of millions of White Americans; Hillary didn’t care, she did what she was told to do by the globalizers. Hillary Clinton pushed mass legal immigration, amnesty for illegal alien infiltrators and Hillary did everything in her power to erase the borders of the United States. Hillary Clinton pushed job-killing trade deal scams. Hillary Clinton pushed unnecessary overseas wars that wasted much blood and treasure.

    Hillary Clinton attacked most members of the White core population of America. Hillary Clinton attacked the White Core Americans who founded and drove the patriotic Alt-Right to the center of American politics. The Alt-Right is gaining strength and power and Hillary is stewing in her own juices over her election loss to President Trump.

  238. @Jack D

    I believe they thought that applied to us too.
     
    They were right in the European theater - the American bomb came too late to affect the war in Europe. Although I am not sure that Berlin and Hamburg would have looked that much worse if they had been nuked instead of relentlessly bombed.

    It's true that the Germans chose to concentrate their efforts on the ballistic missile rather than the nuclear warhead and that their resources were not unlimited, but still I think that the exodus of Jewish scientists and the ill repute of "Jewish physics" had more of an impact than you admit. By the end of the war, the Germans had made surprisingly little progress, even on the theoretical front. Out of 26 German nuclear physicists cited in the literature before 1933, 50% emigrated. The ones that stayed - Diebner, Esau, Gerlach, Schumann, etc. - were not exactly the #1 names in 20th century nuclear physics - they were definitely the "B" team. Deutsche Physik hacks were given undue promotions and Heisenberg only survived because his ma was friends with Himmler's ma.

    This wiki is I think a fair treatment and points to the exodus of scientific talent as an important if not the only factor:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_weapon_project

    It might have been that they wouldn't have achieved nuclear weapons anyway, but losing their best scientists sure didn't help. Many of the guys that they lost ended up being key players in the American effort so it was a double hit.

    By the end of the war, the Germans had made surprisingly little progress, even on the theoretical front.

    Germans discovered nuclear fission in 1938.

  239. @Jack D
    I honestly don't understand why the Western right keeps falling for these guys (their last love affair was with Hitler - that didn't turn out well either). Yes, they hate the decadent West and you hate the decadent West, but that doesn't mean that they are your friends.

    First of all, Putin is from a place that is outside of all Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality or freedom or fair play. Americans , no matter how rightist, would never allow themselves to be ruled by a Putin.

    2nd, Putin himself doesn't give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy. Putin sees the world as a series of concentric loyalties - his #1 loyalty is to himself and his family, then to his inner circle, then to the Russian people and YOU are way,way outside the circle of trust.

    Putin himself doesn’t give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy …

    YOU are way, way outside the circle of trust.

    A big part of it is who Putin pisses off. When Spencer and company continue to praise Putin, they’re fully aware that globalist ‘cosmopolitans’ like Stephens, Boot, and Gessen (#103) will get that much more vocally neurotic. Which leads to more woke goyish noticing.

    The “Western right” (I think you mean alt-right?) knows that ‘cosmopolitans’ don’t give a rat’s ass for white-bread Americans—in fact regards them (along with almost everyone else) as their enemy.

    White-bread ‘fellow Americans’ are way, way outside their circle of trust.

    • Agree: Thea
    • Replies: @Jack D
    Of all the traditional Russian things that Putin is, anti-Semite is not one of them.
    , @nebulafox
    The alt-right doesn't often get how ideologically flexible Putin is. He has no qualms about bankrolling Die Linke along with the Front National. As long as they serve his own interests or desires-which first and foremost involve staying on top and staying rich, before we get to Russian nationalism-whatever.

    They also don't seem to understand that Russia's hardline, ethinic ultranationalists tend to get locked up by Putin pretty quickly. Putin is not interested in setting off ethnic disputes that could turn ugly very quick in the name of some white consciousness.

  240. @TheUmpteenthGermanOnHere
    "the Nazis’ attitude toward disfavored underclasses"
    I don't exactly see who antisemites' "disfavored underclasses" were.
    Demonization doesn't an underclass make.

    Indeed, “market dominant minority”≠”underclass”; if anything, it’s much more unsafe to be the former (something we American whites should keep in mind, as we’re about to become one).

  241. @Tiny Duck
    elevator
    roads
    the constitution
    bathing
    automobile
    fireworks
    gunpowder
    cotton gin

    you forgot peanut butter

    also, if you’re black its a pretty good trade off since africans hadnt even invented the wheel

  242. @Anonymous
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is indeed a nationalist, but not a "white nationalist". He is a Russian nationalist. Russians are not all necessarily all that white-there are Asian and Middle Eastern admixtures in much of the Greater Russian population-but VV Putin does not care about that.

    If it's Russian, he's for it. If he thinks it's bad for Russia, he's against it. Very simple.

    He has a simple yardstick. Oh sure, he likes to wield power, and he is no ascetic or monk. He is very wealthy. But if he thinks it's bad for Russia and Russians no amount of money would sway him.

    I think Trump is a decent person in many ways, but Putin is a far more serious, a far more powerful man. I doubt America will ever really have a Putin.

    Damn shame, really.

    “… I doubt America will ever really have a Putin. ”

    Who cares?!

    bored would believes that even some ten years from now, President Miller with his young Veep Yair Netanyahu could still reverse Hussein’s Pendelum and save our Union- along with the State 51. Area.

    Of course, there will be blood, but…

    “To put things in perspective,” Netanyahu wrote on Facebook, “I’m a Jew, I’m an Israeli, the neo nazis scums [sic] in Virginia hate me and my country.

    But they belong to the past.

    Their breed is dying out.

    “However the thugs of Antifa and [Black Lives Matter] who hate my country (and America too in my view) just as much are getting stronger and stronger and becoming super dominant in American universities and public life.”

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-junior-says-leftists-more-dangerous-than-neo-nazis/

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/alien-reptile-and-cloaked-figure-in-yair-netanyahus-meme-have-old-new-origins/

  243. @Maj. Kong
    I'm old enough to recall the "epistemic closure" meme that was spread after the 2012 defeat. The most disgusting thing the left did in 2012 was the "White People mourning Romney" Tumblrism. Their reveling in open anti-white racism (thinking an amnesty and permanent one party rule was right around the corner). That's what sent me out of mainstream WF Buckley conservatism, and into White Identity Politics.

    St. Trayvon of the Skittles was martyred shortly before the 2012 election. In fact, I’m almost certain that was a national news story because of the election. That’s what turned me, along with reading Jared Taylor around the same time.

    The left called forth Nemesis that year, but didn’t learn about it until 4 years later

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The Trayvon agitation was a deliberate, conscious attempt to provoke a re-run of the 1992 LA riots which helped put Bill Clinton in the White House. As the 20th anniversary of those riots approached the agitation intensified noticeably. The left/media knew exactly what they were doing: stoking black anger in order to motivate the black vote. It worked too, as their man duly won the election.
  244. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    Whatever improvement the Russian people have seen was mostly as a result of high oil prices and now that oil prices are back down these improvements are likely to fade. For every kopeck that the average Russian sees, Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies. BTW, the Russian standard of living did improve under the Communists (except at the very end when things started to fall apart). By world historical standards (and Putin standards) the Communists stole remarkably little for themselves because they really believed that stuff at the beginning. Mostly they just wasted it on the military and in inefficiency but they didn't actually steal much for themselves personally.

    )the Communists stole remarkably little for themselves because they really believed that stuff at the beginning.

    At the beginning? At the beginning the communists were at their bloodiest. As for stealing, what do you call the great land from the kulaks? The communists ended up with the blood of millions on their hands in their efforts to collectivize, i.e. steal, the land.

  245. @Jack D

    I believe they thought that applied to us too.
     
    They were right in the European theater - the American bomb came too late to affect the war in Europe. Although I am not sure that Berlin and Hamburg would have looked that much worse if they had been nuked instead of relentlessly bombed.

    It's true that the Germans chose to concentrate their efforts on the ballistic missile rather than the nuclear warhead and that their resources were not unlimited, but still I think that the exodus of Jewish scientists and the ill repute of "Jewish physics" had more of an impact than you admit. By the end of the war, the Germans had made surprisingly little progress, even on the theoretical front. Out of 26 German nuclear physicists cited in the literature before 1933, 50% emigrated. The ones that stayed - Diebner, Esau, Gerlach, Schumann, etc. - were not exactly the #1 names in 20th century nuclear physics - they were definitely the "B" team. Deutsche Physik hacks were given undue promotions and Heisenberg only survived because his ma was friends with Himmler's ma.

    This wiki is I think a fair treatment and points to the exodus of scientific talent as an important if not the only factor:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_weapon_project

    It might have been that they wouldn't have achieved nuclear weapons anyway, but losing their best scientists sure didn't help. Many of the guys that they lost ended up being key players in the American effort so it was a double hit.

    It’s true that the Germans chose to concentrate their efforts on the ballistic missile rather than the nuclear warhead and that their resources were not unlimited, but still I think that the exodus of Jewish scientists and the ill repute of “Jewish physics” had more of an impact than you admit.

    No. I’ve read a great deal about the subject. It wasn’t the loss of talent. It was the (comparative) lack of resources.

    “By the end of the war, the Germans had made surprisingly little progress, even on the theoretical front.”

    It wasn’t a high priority. At best, they hoped to build a reactor. They weren’t even trying to enrich Uranium.

    “Out of 26 German nuclear physicists cited in the literature before 1933, 50% emigrated. The ones that stayed – Diebner, Esau, Gerlach, Schumann, etc. – were not exactly the #1 names in 20th century nuclear physics – they were definitely the “B” team. Deutsche Physik hacks were given undue promotions and Heisenberg only survived because his ma was friends with Himmler’s ma.”

    That is a mischaracterization of the actual history. Heisenberg was not saved because of his connections to Nazi higher-ups. He was one of the most prominent scientists in Germany at the time, second perhaps only to Planck. And the term “nuclear physicist” barely existed prior to 1933, so any kind of ranking based on that isn’t that meaningful.

    “It might have been that they wouldn’t have achieved nuclear weapons anyway, but losing their best scientists sure didn’t help. Many of the guys that they lost ended up being key players in the American effort so it was a double hit.”

    Germany did not lose “their best scientists”. They lost some of the their best scientists. Most of the physicists who worked on the bomb in the U.S. were American, with an admixture of English and european ex-pats (like Fermi). There were also some german (or other european) Jews who worked on it, some of whom were quite important – Hans Bethe most prominently. Some german-jewish refugee physicists, like Otto Stern and Max Born, didn’t work on military projects at all (as far as I can tell), let alone on the A-bomb.

    There were plenty of competent physicists left in Germany. And who knows, Germany might have pulled it off if they had had twice the population they did, greater natural resources and industrial plant, and didn’t have to divert an enormous amount of their effort into enslaving a whole continent. In short, if they were America.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It's important to realize that in the early 1940s, the concept of a nuclear bomb was not unknown to top physicists anywhere. Actually making one was a very different thing. The Manhattan Project was, more than anything else, an enormous industrial manufacturing endeavor.

    I suspect that behind all the nutty David Icke, Fart Smell, pseudoscience conspiracy theory types out there talking about "the Nazi Bell" as some sort of antigravity, time travel or underwater Antarctica base device, there is a grain of reality. The "Nazi Bell" was in fact most likely a cheap and dirty, cost effective way to make fissionable materials, and the Nazis might have been just a little closer to success than the American and British sides might have wanted generally broadcast. Even so, they were many years away from having sufficient quality and quantity to do the job.

    But would the Allies have gone to drastic and perhaps brutal clandestine measures to keep the Nazi Bell from general knowledge, if they felt its use might bring other countries closer to nuclear capability? Back then there was a general belief that the US might keep a nuclear monopoly indefinitely until Stalin dropped his first test bomb. It's not all that crazy that they would.

    The antigravity and time machine theories could be deliberate disinformation propagated to make the whole thing seem even sillier.
  246. @Stephen Paul Foster
    It is interesting to speculate on just when this -- "the increasingly gratuitous usage among white elites of the word 'white' as an insult" -- happened.

    My theory is that Obama's eight year reign of terror was the imprimatur the good whites needed to turn "white" into a moral stigma. Completely aligned with Obama (the black super-hero) was the massive block of opinion-attitude entities -- MSM, entertainment industry, academia. Obama's presidency -- so the story-line goes -- was not only wonderful, but inevitable. And so, it is now time for whites to quit complaining, except their inferior status and step aside. The insults are embedded in the new progressive order, part of the pay back. Hillary tried to be Obama II but for obvious reasons couldn't pull it off. The Dems now are shopping around to find a more suitable choice for 2020. Recently I saw a piece by Douglas Schoen, former Clinton pollster, in the Hill, I think, "arguing" that Michelle Obama is the best Democrat to beat Trump. Makes sense, sort of.

    See: https://www.amren.com/news/2017/03/exterminationist-left-happy-trails-zimbabwe/

    Yeah, that’s my take, too. Obama’s election in 2008, and especially his re-election in 2012 over uber-white Mitt Romney, caused Dems to jump the gun and assume the long-promised multicultural millenium was at hand. They assumed it was safe to drop the mask.

    Trump’s election merely caused them to double down. If Trump wins re-election, it will be for exactly that reason.

    At that point, I’d expect Dems to belatedly realize that even if they’re not a majority, white people will continue to be the dominant force in American politics, and constantly insulting them and wishing for their deaths probably isn’t a smart strategy.

    If Trump loses…well, all bets are off.

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist

    constantly insulting them and wishing for their deaths probably isn’t a smart strategy.
     
    It not a question of whether or not it is a smart strategy. For the likes of Jennifer Senior here, Max Boot, Masha Gessen or the late Susan Sontag for that matter and many others it is that they just can not help it. It is instinctual.

    They and their kin are all both deeply neurotic about and envious of all that the Goyim have created. Initially they are able to content themselves with parasitical behaviors against the goyim for their own benefit. But in the end they simply want it all that the goyim have achieved torn down and have been hard at work recruiting and inflaming other racial auxiliaries for the task.

    Smart Strategy??? No is never smart to repeat behaviors that time after time have brought down opprobrium and retaliation upon ones head.

    Instinctual PROTOCOL now that is entirely another matter.

    The Cuckoo can't help his innate behavior, neither can.......
  247. @Olorin

    I think all this naked hatred against whites is a big mistake for blacks.
     
    Exactly correct.

    And who do you think taught them to act like this starting in the 1960s?

    And what do you think their motives were?

    If blacks ever wake up to how they have been used, and how badly, in the name of "civil" "rights," there is going to be a reckoning...and suddenly the cry is going to be, "Help us, white man! Call the police/National Guard/Army/Navy/Coast Guard to save us!"

    Or so I'm told by conservative Jews of my acquaintance.

    We know that the only people to ever drop an atomic device were white people.
     
    You mean the guys who flew Enola Gay? No doubt. Most pilots and plane crews in the 1940s US were.

    What about the people who created the device/processes leading up to it in the Manhattan (ahem) Project?

    What about J. Robert Oppenheimer, Frank Oppenheimer, Albert Einstein, Neils Bohr, Leo Szilard, Nicholas Kurti, David Bohm, Rudolf Peierls, Felix Bloch, Paul Wigner, James Chadwick, James Franck, Otto Frisch, Edward Teller, Hans Bethe, Klaus Fuchs, Dick Feynmann, Louis Slotin, Louis Rosen, Morris Kolodney, Ted Hall, Samuel Cohen, Jacob Beser, Samuel Goldsmit, George Placzek, Eugene Rabinowich, Gregory Breit, David Greenglass, Victor Weisskopf, Alvin Weinberg, Isidor Rabi, Joseph Rotblat, George Koval, Stan Frankel, Franz Simon, and David Lilienthal?

    Were they "white people"?

    Were they "white people" when they worked for Hitler?

    Were they "white people" when they spied for Stalin?

    Their intention was to drop the bomb on Nazis, which clears up the apparent contradiction right there.

    I remember reading that one of them, after the Nazis were out of the war and it was clear politicians were intent on dropping it on Japan, said something like, “My God, it’s as if these people actually *want* to use the thing.” Um, why did you build it for them if you didn’t want to use it?

    I realize the response would be, “Because we were afraid Nazis were going to invent it without us inventing it first.” Which was a reasonable fear. But come on, you wanted to drop it on Germany. Tell the truth.

    Anyway, they solved the mistake of giving Whitebread America the bomb by handing it over to the Evil Empire, which at least back in the day had a bunch of their people in charge.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    "Anyway, they solved the mistake of giving Whitebread America the bomb by handing it over to the Evil Empire, which at least back in the day had a bunch of their people in charge."

    By the time they handed it over, their people were no longer in charge for years but whatever.
  248. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    That's the problem that the Dems are running into these days. Blacks, Hispanics, even Muslims are demanding to be front and center in the party leadership and to be the candidates. White men, Jews and white women are being pushed out.

    It was one thing having Bill Clinton or Schumer or Biden chiding whites and talking about white privilege. It's another to have Tony Perez or Keith Ellison talking about black and Hispanic pride while telling working class whites that they are terrible.

    Obama got away with it in part because of his personality (a well-spoken black who frankly didn't act like other blacks) and in part because he was the first PoC to get elected to high office. But even his racial animus came out over time, and it rubbed whites the wrong way.

    Whites won't have as much patience the next time around, nor will the PoC messenger likely be as smooth as Obama.

    It's a major problem for the Dems. Luckily for them, the GOP would rather perish than stand up for whites so the Dems will be just fine because it's hard to lose if you don't have an opponent.

    Whites won’t have as much patience the next time around

    So we “lose patience.” So what? What can we do with that loss of patience except stew impotently in our anger and frustration? Elect more GOP Congress-critters who will, no matter what they say before the election, inevitably become a new batch of John McCains once in office? Because that’s what the job is: to put up a show of fighting the left, then valiantly lose, thereby maintaining the illusion that Congress actually matters or has any real power anymore, rather than being one of the empty, last remnants of the Old Republic? Electing another Trump, who will be just as ineffective against the Deep State as him, because the Deep State are our true, unelected rulers who do not answer to any president, who are more powerful than any president? The “swamp” is undrainable, because it has far more power than any would-be “drainer.”

    • Replies: @JackOH
    "So we “lose patience.” So what? What can we do with that loss of patience except stew impotently in our anger and frustration?"

    Exactly, Kevin C., you nailed it. Despite the percolating and well-justified anger here over a host of bad policies we live under, the chances of us mounting a successful opposition are pretty damned slim. Successful, meaningful dissent is costly and hard.

    BTW-I don't really get the notion that you read in occasional comments here that, roughly speaking, abuses and excesses are to be welcomed because they'll more quickly lead to an uprising of ordinary folks seeking, er, uh, justice or a rectification of grievances. Our permanent masters are clever enough to back off when necessary.
  249. @AndrewR
    Lol. If leftists had any respect for reality, they wouldn't be leftists. But for reasons probably more complex than anyone may be aware of, Americans of all ethnicities tend to lump all Latinos together racially. And many white Latinos try to exploit this for their own benefit. See: Rubio, Little Marco

    “for reasons probably more complex…”

    No, they are garden-variety who/whom reasons.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Then explain.
  250. OT:

    Indian Man’s Parents Fly to Florida to Help Him Beat His Wife

    “Parents fly from their native India to Florida ‘to beat their son’s wife, 33, for being disobedient’ after he called them for help”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4851918/Indian-man-s-parents-fly-Florida-beat-son-s-wife.html

  251. @Jake
    I think your assessment is correct. Whites are the near antithesis of the people directly addressed in Matthew 7: 3-5. Jesus talks about people whose first, and perhaps nearly only, instinct is to focus on even the smallest problem with other folks, and batter them, while ignoring their own much worse faults.

    Whites, meaning in this case Gentiles of European background, tend to be as you note: led by overly socially fastidious women, they will browbeat their own for little motes while ignoring not merely beams, but beams with gigantic spikes smeared in feces, that protrude from the eyes of non-whites and non-Christians.

    Those whites are as screwed up and WRONG as are the people on the other end of the pendulum that Jesus specifically condemns. In fact, whites being this way make those people much worse.

    I think your assessment is correct. Whites are the near antithesis of the people directly addressed in Matthew 7: 3-5.

    Except, how much of white people being that way is due to the influence of Matthew 7: 3-5 and related?

  252. @Pat Boyle
    I think all this naked hatred against whites is a big mistake for blacks. East Asians with some justice feel they are equal or superior so you don't get much contempt for white accomplishment from them. Hispanics want the goose that lays those golden eggs so they too are circumspect. But Americans blacks no longer bother too conceal their desire to slaughter all whites.

    Let's face it blacks have not worked out in America. Lincoln, Jefferson and Washington never could believe that blacks could ever be social equals to whites. As it turns out - they were right.

    Since the sixties America has embraced a kind of optimism about prospects for racial blending. But all the evidence for the success of racial equality is negative.

    There is a story earlier in this blog thread about America's opioid epidemic. It testifies to the hopelessness that young black men feel. I'm sure its correct. Probably the best way to interpret the black on black shooting that we see in Baltimore, Detroit and Chicago is that it is a new form of suicide - suicide by proxy. The social scientists refuse to believe it but the black kids in the ghetto know the odds against them ever becoming a normal member of society. So they shoot heroin into their arms and shoot their gun at other blacks.

    Meanwhile the white liberals and black militants become increasingly more strident. They have grants and maybe even tenure. They are a long way from the grim realities of street black life. So they indulge in nasty panegyrics against white people. They feel better for this. Most other blacks have no outlet for their frustration. They at least can scream.

    But hating whites is not cost-free. We know that the only people to ever drop an atomic device were white people. We know that the famous Nazi genocide of the Jews was done by white people. So no should doubt that whites can be very nasty indeed. It is in the best long term interest of blacks to cool it - to mollify whites and hope for some answer to emerge. The present course of white liberals and black radicals to spew undiluted hatred at whites looks to me to be another suicide gesture.

    Do Mestizos possess the same racial animus?

    I’m sure they’d fleece us but there doesn’t seem to be the same desire to spitefully rape, torture and kill us. Perhaps I’m wrong.

  253. @Beckow

    "Tony Perez or Keith Ellison talking about black and Hispanic pride while telling working class whites that they are terrible.....Obama got away with it in part because of his personality"

     

    That's a very good analysis. It explains the liberal media hysteria - both Dems and GOP establishment are cornered. So they lash out.

    Trump shook the system that was already wobbly. It is not possible to put it back in the box. There are too many ambitious politicians who would pick up the same themes. The best establishment option would be a neutered Trump who betrays his voters.

    The progressives are not very good with numbers. It will be another 20-30 years before they would have the PoC coalition that they seem to think already exists. They live mainly in immigrant-heavy enclaves and, as all simple people, they extrapolate. The liberal dominance depended on pacified and disinterested white voting, that is gone. It is unlikely that even 40% of whites would vote for identity-obsessed Dems. People know when they are not liked. And most pro-Trump part of America are white High School students - they will soon start voting.

    How are Dem candidates going to address the massive white majority of 70-75%? Preaching and accusations, name calling and hatred are not going to get many white votes. Once society is polarized, the largest group prevails.

    The progressives are not very good with numbers. It will be another 20-30 years before they would have the PoC coalition that they seem to think already exists. They live mainly in immigrant-heavy enclaves and, as all simple people, they extrapolate. The liberal dominance depended on pacified and disinterested white voting, that is gone. It is unlikely that even 40% of whites would vote for identity-obsessed Dems. People know when they are not liked. And most pro-Trump part of America are white High School students – they will soon start voting.

    How are Dem candidates going to address the massive white majority of 70-75%? Preaching and accusations, name calling and hatred are not going to get many white votes. Once society is polarized, the largest group prevails.

    Texas and Florida. The PoC coalition you describe is already baked into those two states. It’s a mathematical certainty that with the passage of at most a decade both states will become irrevocably blue as old GOP Anglos die off and vibrant PoC reach voting age. Whites can win presidential elections with just one of those states if they can continue getting the rust belt, but with both Texas and Florida off the map there is no pathway to the presidency even if Washington state, Minnesota, Oregon and other unlikely-GOP but heavily white states swing right.

    • Replies: @Beckow
    You say 10 years, I suggested 20-30 years. Both are guesses. You are right about Tx and Florida, it could snowball much faster there.

    But in shorter term, let's say up to 2024-8, the Dem strategy makes no sense. With a 70-75% white electorate, insulting and patronizing white working and middle classes is self-defeating. Dems are stuck: they cannot run an identity-driven POC, because they would lose. When societies get polarized, the largest and strongest group always prevails. But Dems cannot run anyone who POC identity crazies object to. There is a very small space in the middle there somewhere, maybe a unique candidate with a unique background and skills. The next 2-3 elections will still be decided by the majority whites. And if they wish they can prevent the demographic collapse. It would be hard and ugly, but they could still do it. Once Tx and Florida go the way of California, it will be too late.

  254. @Frau Katze
    Some fraction of Mexicans (I don't know the figures) are of 100% European descent.

    One of the blondest, as well as most beautiful, woman I ever knew was a Mexican. Not only naturally blond, but sky-blue eyes as well.
    When I first met her I asked her how long her family had been in Mexico, ecxpecting her to say that her parents had arrived from Germany in 1945.
    “450 years”, she said, “give or take a decade or two”.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    It's a great story but I really doubt that it's true. To the extent that there are Germans in Mexico (and there are some, esp. German speaking Swiss Mennonites who pioneered the dairy industry in Mexico) they would mostly have arrived starting in the 19th century after the end of Spanish rule. I suppose this woman's story is possible but I would rate it as highly unlikely.
  255. @Pat Boyle
    I think all this naked hatred against whites is a big mistake for blacks. East Asians with some justice feel they are equal or superior so you don't get much contempt for white accomplishment from them. Hispanics want the goose that lays those golden eggs so they too are circumspect. But Americans blacks no longer bother too conceal their desire to slaughter all whites.

    Let's face it blacks have not worked out in America. Lincoln, Jefferson and Washington never could believe that blacks could ever be social equals to whites. As it turns out - they were right.

    Since the sixties America has embraced a kind of optimism about prospects for racial blending. But all the evidence for the success of racial equality is negative.

    There is a story earlier in this blog thread about America's opioid epidemic. It testifies to the hopelessness that young black men feel. I'm sure its correct. Probably the best way to interpret the black on black shooting that we see in Baltimore, Detroit and Chicago is that it is a new form of suicide - suicide by proxy. The social scientists refuse to believe it but the black kids in the ghetto know the odds against them ever becoming a normal member of society. So they shoot heroin into their arms and shoot their gun at other blacks.

    Meanwhile the white liberals and black militants become increasingly more strident. They have grants and maybe even tenure. They are a long way from the grim realities of street black life. So they indulge in nasty panegyrics against white people. They feel better for this. Most other blacks have no outlet for their frustration. They at least can scream.

    But hating whites is not cost-free. We know that the only people to ever drop an atomic device were white people. We know that the famous Nazi genocide of the Jews was done by white people. So no should doubt that whites can be very nasty indeed. It is in the best long term interest of blacks to cool it - to mollify whites and hope for some answer to emerge. The present course of white liberals and black radicals to spew undiluted hatred at whites looks to me to be another suicide gesture.

    So no should doubt that whites can be very nasty indeed.

    Oh man, no one with a thinking brain doubts that. We see it exhibited in its full glory, every day, in some corner of the world.

  256. @Declane
    Just out of curiosity I googled the president of Mexico to see how white he looked. He looks as white as the average Italian-American in my neighborhood. It's funny how people talk about Mexicans and racism and all that without ever acknowledging that there are basically two races in Mexico - the ones with a drop of native blood and the ones with a bucket.

    But he is 5'7" so at least he shows his solidarity with his lessers by not reaching his full European height.

    Vicente Fox, Mexican president from 2000 to 2006 is 6’5”. He’s mighty white, too.

  257. @Intelligent Dasein

    Steve Bannon, in his recent 60 mins interview,
     
    I'm glad somebody brought up this interview, because I need to unburden myself of a most disquieting sensation. I feel like I'm in The Twilight Zone whenever I hear people on our side talk about how wonderful that interview was, as if one morning I woke up the same and everybody else was different.

    A word to the wise here---that interview was atrocious. Steve Bannon comes across as an unhinged zealot: Bloodshot eyes, interruptive speech, delusions of grandeur. He seems to think he's still playing some sort of vital role within the Trump administration, although paradoxically from "outside" it. The fact of the matter, as is becoming quite clear, is just the opposite. Bannon was apparently always a marginal figure in Trump's circle and with Trump's increasingly establishment drift, there is no longer any use for him. This must have come as a blow to Bannon's ego. He once thought (and had many others thinking) that he was the indispensable architect of the victorious Trump movement. That idea has turned out to be largely a myth created by himself.

    In compensation, Bannon has taken to running Breitbart as if it were his own personal vanity site. The features now consist of basically two kinds: 1) Articles about Steve Bannon; and 2) Articles about articles about Steve Bannon. This is is recurring theme with Breitbart and is reminiscent of the turbo-gonzo days of Milo Yiannopoulos.

    What's worse is the actual content of Steve Bannon's vision for the country. He styles himself as a defender of "radical unity," meaning that Americans of every race, religion, and sexual orientation will find common cause in his program of economic nationalism.

    It is impossible to overstate how stupid that is. Replace economic nationalism with "muh free market" and there is nothing to distinguish this from the cuckservativism of DR3 and "enterprise zones," except that Bannon's version lacks the gibs and graft necessary to actually make the spoils system work.

    Steve Bannon is an epic failure as a statesman. Whether its his grandiose but inaccurate historiographies ("Firing James Comey was the worst mistake in modern political history") or his cowardly hypocrisy ("We committed the original sin of the Trump administration; we embraced the establishment"), he is an unstable, self-promoting, and self-aggrandizing lunatic who has no place anywhere near the corridors of power.

    “I feel like I’m in The Twilight Zone whenever I hear people on our side talk about how wonderful [Bannon’s] interview was, as if one morning I woke up the same and everybody else was different.”

    Maybe your idea of what counts as “our side” isn’t very widely shared?

    “Bloodshot eyes” – agreed. He has a face made for radio. So what?

    “Bannon has taken to running Breitbart as if it were his own personal vanity site. The features now consist of basically two kinds: 1) Articles about Steve Bannon; and 2) Articles about articles about Steve Bannon.”

    This is a ridiculous falsehood, as even the most cursory visit to the site will reveal.

    “Replace economic nationalism with ‘muh free market’ and there is nothing to distinguish this from the cuckservativism of DR3 and ‘enterprise zones’…”

    Your point here is, as professional philosophers like to say, “under-described.”

  258. @NickG

    Steve Bannon comes across as an unhinged zealot:

     

    Yup, to many that would never going to vote Trump. But then few normal - non political junkie - folks, especially swing voters, know who Bannon is!

    Steve Bannon is an epic failure as a statesman
     
    Yup I agree, and in the same vein our host here would be an epic failure transitioning to a career as a female ramp model. I suspect both Steve's share similar levels of expectation of success in each respective profession. Bannon was a behind the scenes geezer; he was never on the cards as a 'statesman'.

    Bannon is, no doubt, a pugnacious bombastic geezer. What his contribution to Trump's ideological underpinnings, or the campaign's against the odds success, is difficult to say on the level of the inside gen most of us here have. What we can say is that Bannon was billed as Trump's Campaign co-ordinator and contrary to most predictions, Trump won.

    Was he fired, was he pushed, did he flounce off, does he feel he can be more effective outside the administration....I suspect it's something of all 4. Does he still have Trump's ear...I suspect not directly.

    “our host here would be an epic failure transitioning to a career as a female ramp model”

    He would, because unfortunately he looks like a grown man instead of a pubescent boy.

  259. @Anonymous
    I don't quite see it as immigriping: a.) she says she's leaving (if only other immigripers would do the same); b.) she's not asking for special status or protection - she asks for rule of law.

    I think it is immigriping, but I agree with you that she is not showing the most pathological behaviors associated with it which you describe. Perhaps we need more detailed words? immidemanding might work conceptually, but it doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue.

  260. @Jack D
    No, it is highly relevant. Russian, even today's rump Russia, is a multicultural society where you can be "Russian" by signing on to the great Russian statist project. Russia (and Putin is very typical in this regard) defines itself in OPPOSITION to the decadent West. If you are a Russian statist, you can be any culture or religion (although it certainly doesn't hurt to be Russian and Orthodox). If you oppose the Russian statist project then you are an enemy of Moscow and pure white Russian blood won't help you - watch out for Polonium in your tea.

    This article explains it:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/opinion/russia-putin-national-identity.html

    Americans always make the mistake of assuming that everyone thinks just like Americans. Putin is impossible to understand in American terms and not a good role model for American white nationalists because Russian history is not like American history and Russians are not Americans.

    “Putin is impossible to understand in American terms and not a good role model for American white nationalists because Russian history is not like American history and Russians are not Americans.”

    This seems right to me. The political situation in Russia is just too different from that in the USA to make any easy comparisons.

    I hope you’d agree that, just as it’s foolish for American nationalists to adopt Putin as a role model, it’s equally foolish – and far more dangerous, not to mention far more prevalent – for American globalists to demonize him.

  261. @Jack D
    Either math is not their strong suit or else they pretend it is not. They claim that they are practicing "positive" discrimination or just giving people a leg up (from FDR onward Democrats have been great at manipulating the language to make essentially Communist or Statist projects sound as American as apple pie - who could be against giving people a leg up?). The problem is that in many areas (e.g. college admissions) the # of seats, etc. is fixed in the short run so this is what is known as a "zero sum game" - if I "help" one person then I can only do so by "hurting" someone else but white people were not supposed to notice that they were on the losing end of the game. If you "noticed" this made you a "racist" so shut up, you racist. This is not really a recipe for winning love and affection - the beatings will continue until morale improves! And of course, they exempted themselves from their own rules - letting more blacks into Stanford did not mean that Chelsea couldn't attend, it meant that some farm boy from Iowa couldn't go.

    BTW, the Russian standard of living did improve under the Communists (except at the very end when things started to fall apart).

    A good chunk of this was probably the kind of wealth redistribution a thief gets from stealing a Faberge egg. Around the beginning of the decade, the top 20% of the population owned over 90% of the wealth. At the time of the October Revolution a century ago, the concentration was probably higher. As the benefits of purloined wealth dissipated, Russia began to see real privation. What better way to kill two birds with one stone than to eliminate the kulak wreckers, further down the wealth scale, via starvation, while paving the way for the repurposing of their lands? Then WWII made it possible to further whittle down the population to keep it well within Malthusian bounds.

  262. @Jack D
    No, it is highly relevant. Russian, even today's rump Russia, is a multicultural society where you can be "Russian" by signing on to the great Russian statist project. Russia (and Putin is very typical in this regard) defines itself in OPPOSITION to the decadent West. If you are a Russian statist, you can be any culture or religion (although it certainly doesn't hurt to be Russian and Orthodox). If you oppose the Russian statist project then you are an enemy of Moscow and pure white Russian blood won't help you - watch out for Polonium in your tea.

    This article explains it:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/18/opinion/russia-putin-national-identity.html

    Americans always make the mistake of assuming that everyone thinks just like Americans. Putin is impossible to understand in American terms and not a good role model for American white nationalists because Russian history is not like American history and Russians are not Americans.

    P.S. – I’d hope you’d also agree that Donald Trump has (or, at least, had) exactly the right instincts here: wouldn’t it be great if we could just get along with Russians, and cooperate with them when it’s to our mutual advantage? What possible advantage can ordinary Americans gain from a renewed cold war?

  263. @Guy de Champlagne
    Yeah Putin is such a great leader that he's almost gotten Russian life expectancy back up to soviet levels. What a man!

    Given what happened actually that is an achievement. He has a long way to go and he knows it, but he’s making progress. Only a really intelligent, ruthless, and inner-directed leader would get even that much.

    • Replies: @Guy de Champlagne
    I thought the soviet union was supposed to be really terrible and inefficient. Surely improving on such a horrible government would be easy? The standard right wing knee jerk reactions are in conflict with one another.
  264. @Anonymous
    This picture is larger: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBapsirUMAAzdhs.jpg:large

    I don’t believe this photo is genuine. Give me proof as to source.

    • Replies: @jackson
    Yes the photo is genuine. The program's Twitter account posted it June 2nd.

    https://twitter.com/LAPD_Cadets
  265. @Dr. X

    The idea that Putin is a committed ethnic nationalist is a useful myth both for the American left and for the weird white nationalist Putin fanboys who seem to believe it as well. The truth is Putin doesn’t give a damn about “white identity”, he is a statist.
     
    Yeah, but Putin is a "statist" in a lily-white country. Ergo, Russian nationalism is white Russian nationalism. You don't see him importing Syrians, Turks, Pakistanis and Africans like Merkel and May, do you?

    You see him importing Uzbeks and Tajiks though.

  266. I still can’t quite believe this is the new Conventional Wisdom among the great and good:

    http://www.vulture.com/2017/09/david-lynch-racial-politics.html

    What Does David Lynch Have to Say About Race?
    In the filmmaker’s vision of America, whiteness is the source of all evil….

    [MORE]

    All of Lynch’s main characters are white: As far as American directors go, this is unexceptional, and it may well be the most normal thing about him. What is abnormal about Lynch’s films is the way he makes whiteness speak and turn its gaze upon itself. Very often, the crises that force his pale-faced leads to reveal their true nature are subtly and indelibly linked to the violence and discrimination that created and sustains their power, or in other words, whiteness….

    As someone (as a Frank, even) who writes regularly about black music, it’s long been evident that, however small or great, there will always be some measure of bad faith involved in taking pleasure in art whose beauty, though universal, is rooted in and channels a pain specific to the black experience; though I’m not white, have no wish to be, and benefit rather less from racial hierarchy than both whites and less discerning people of color imagine, the guilt is there all the same. …

    Both Hawk and Del Rio serve as persistent reminders of a reality overwritten by white conquest, adding a faint, but unmistakable, historical dimension to the return of the repressed that defines Lynch’s work. …

    When Lynch introduced FBI Agent Dale Cooper to the world, Cooper, to most viewers, seemed an update on an abiding legend white America had long repeated to itself….Much as Twin Peaks heralded the era of so-called prestige television shows, Cooper was the first, and most powerfully drawn, of the morally compromised white male anti-heroes at the center of those shows. He was the first to touch upon the crisis in whiteness and white masculinity that occasioned the appearance (and widespread appreciation) of Tony Soprano, Don Draper, and Walter White. …The fall of Cooper, the character closest to a Lynch self-portrait, cuts to the heart of his signature achievement as an artist. He has converted, by force if necessary, white America’s simplistic, innocent vision of itself into a complex and incendiary demonology.

    Through the alchemy of cinema, the boundless insularity of everyday American social life is transformed into a nightmare where the white dreamer must confront the fact that the origin of their fears lies nowhere but within themselves; conversely, the day-to-day social exclusion of people of color becomes, in Lynch’s neo-noirs, their exoneration from the possibility of guilt. Nonwhite people are defined by their estrangement from white society, but their images are hardly excluded from white society’s fantasies, where they serve as villainous foils to the virtuous majority: thieves and parasites, cheats and invaders, too robotic or too animal, waste material, a hysterical threat, an unreasoning foe, inherently illegal and beyond the law. Yet in Lynch’s dreamscapes, the people who reveal themselves as villains are nearly always (the misfire of Wild at Heart being the rule-proving exception) white. We encounter there the horror of whiteness without the face-saving transference of humanity’s fouler motives to minorities. (True, the dumpster ghoul in Mulholland Drive and the lesser demons known as Woodsmen in Twin Peaks are played by white actors whose bodies are blackened with soot. But their presentation plays less as an exercise in blackface and more as an acknowledgment that white people themselves are the dark, unnatural beings they should fear.)

    What Lynch dares to suggest, in his unique and unsettling fashion, is that even when the whites are on, there’s no one — no one — who’s at home. [emphasis added]

  267. @Mr. Blank
    Yeah, that's my take, too. Obama's election in 2008, and especially his re-election in 2012 over uber-white Mitt Romney, caused Dems to jump the gun and assume the long-promised multicultural millenium was at hand. They assumed it was safe to drop the mask.

    Trump's election merely caused them to double down. If Trump wins re-election, it will be for exactly that reason.

    At that point, I'd expect Dems to belatedly realize that even if they're not a majority, white people will continue to be the dominant force in American politics, and constantly insulting them and wishing for their deaths probably isn't a smart strategy.

    If Trump loses...well, all bets are off.

    constantly insulting them and wishing for their deaths probably isn’t a smart strategy.

    It not a question of whether or not it is a smart strategy. For the likes of Jennifer Senior here, Max Boot, Masha Gessen or the late Susan Sontag for that matter and many others it is that they just can not help it. It is instinctual.

    They and their kin are all both deeply neurotic about and envious of all that the Goyim have created. Initially they are able to content themselves with parasitical behaviors against the goyim for their own benefit. But in the end they simply want it all that the goyim have achieved torn down and have been hard at work recruiting and inflaming other racial auxiliaries for the task.

    Smart Strategy??? No is never smart to repeat behaviors that time after time have brought down opprobrium and retaliation upon ones head.

    Instinctual PROTOCOL now that is entirely another matter.

    The Cuckoo can’t help his innate behavior, neither can…….

  268. @Anonymous
    I don't quite see it as immigriping: a.) she says she's leaving (if only other immigripers would do the same); b.) she's not asking for special status or protection - she asks for rule of law.

    She’s from Minnesota.

    I’m more likely to believe that she’s reacting hysterically.

  269. @Olorin

    I think all this naked hatred against whites is a big mistake for blacks.
     
    Exactly correct.

    And who do you think taught them to act like this starting in the 1960s?

    And what do you think their motives were?

    If blacks ever wake up to how they have been used, and how badly, in the name of "civil" "rights," there is going to be a reckoning...and suddenly the cry is going to be, "Help us, white man! Call the police/National Guard/Army/Navy/Coast Guard to save us!"

    Or so I'm told by conservative Jews of my acquaintance.

    We know that the only people to ever drop an atomic device were white people.
     
    You mean the guys who flew Enola Gay? No doubt. Most pilots and plane crews in the 1940s US were.

    What about the people who created the device/processes leading up to it in the Manhattan (ahem) Project?

    What about J. Robert Oppenheimer, Frank Oppenheimer, Albert Einstein, Neils Bohr, Leo Szilard, Nicholas Kurti, David Bohm, Rudolf Peierls, Felix Bloch, Paul Wigner, James Chadwick, James Franck, Otto Frisch, Edward Teller, Hans Bethe, Klaus Fuchs, Dick Feynmann, Louis Slotin, Louis Rosen, Morris Kolodney, Ted Hall, Samuel Cohen, Jacob Beser, Samuel Goldsmit, George Placzek, Eugene Rabinowich, Gregory Breit, David Greenglass, Victor Weisskopf, Alvin Weinberg, Isidor Rabi, Joseph Rotblat, George Koval, Stan Frankel, Franz Simon, and David Lilienthal?

    Were they "white people"?

    Were they "white people" when they worked for Hitler?

    Were they "white people" when they spied for Stalin?

    Jewish physics?

    Perhaps Lenard and Stark were right about its baleful effect after all.

  270. @Jack D
    Either math is not their strong suit or else they pretend it is not. They claim that they are practicing "positive" discrimination or just giving people a leg up (from FDR onward Democrats have been great at manipulating the language to make essentially Communist or Statist projects sound as American as apple pie - who could be against giving people a leg up?). The problem is that in many areas (e.g. college admissions) the # of seats, etc. is fixed in the short run so this is what is known as a "zero sum game" - if I "help" one person then I can only do so by "hurting" someone else but white people were not supposed to notice that they were on the losing end of the game. If you "noticed" this made you a "racist" so shut up, you racist. This is not really a recipe for winning love and affection - the beatings will continue until morale improves! And of course, they exempted themselves from their own rules - letting more blacks into Stanford did not mean that Chelsea couldn't attend, it meant that some farm boy from Iowa couldn't go.

    Whatever improvement the Russian people have seen was mostly as a result of high oil prices and now that oil prices are back down these improvements are likely to fade.

    Brazil ran into a similar situation, due to the bursting of the commodities bubble that had buoyed both economies while on the upswing. GDP per capita peaked at $13,242 in 2011, and was down at $8,810 in 2015. Russia’s peak number was $15,559 in 2013. It was down at $9,521 in 2015.

  271. @Jack D
    Whatever improvement the Russian people have seen was mostly as a result of high oil prices and now that oil prices are back down these improvements are likely to fade. For every kopeck that the average Russian sees, Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies. BTW, the Russian standard of living did improve under the Communists (except at the very end when things started to fall apart). By world historical standards (and Putin standards) the Communists stole remarkably little for themselves because they really believed that stuff at the beginning. Mostly they just wasted it on the military and in inefficiency but they didn't actually steal much for themselves personally.

    Communists stole remarkably little for themselves because they really believed that stuff at the beginning. Mostly they just wasted it on the military and in inefficiency but they didn’t actually steal much for themselves personally.

    You could just as easily be writing about the behaviour (at least since the War of Northern Aggression) of politicians in what used to be the U.S.A.

  272. @Guy de Champlagne
    Yeah Putin is such a great leader that he's almost gotten Russian life expectancy back up to soviet levels. What a man!

    Actually considerably above them (currently 72.5 years; peak Soviet level was 69.9 years, in 1987).

    • Replies: @Guy de Champlagne
    And if soviet life expectancy had gone up with the rest of the world what would it be now? Norway, which is an actually competently run country and was in 1990 as well, had a 6 year increase since 1990. So think of the improvement you could expect by going from a poorly run country to a competently run one (hint: it doesn't look anything like what happened in Russia under Putin)

    And even the paltry 2.6 year increase you cite is more the 1.4 that google gives.

    , @Lot
    You say 72.5, the WHO says 70.5, and below Bolivia, North Korea, Moldova, Libya, Venezuela. Russian life expectancy is considerably below places as Hondurus, Tunisia, Iran, and Jamaica. Maybe if Putin could get Russians to switch from pathological levels of vodka to ganja, Russia might aspire to some day rise up to Jamaican levels.
  273. @Jack D
    Whatever improvement the Russian people have seen was mostly as a result of high oil prices and now that oil prices are back down these improvements are likely to fade. For every kopeck that the average Russian sees, Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies. BTW, the Russian standard of living did improve under the Communists (except at the very end when things started to fall apart). By world historical standards (and Putin standards) the Communists stole remarkably little for themselves because they really believed that stuff at the beginning. Mostly they just wasted it on the military and in inefficiency but they didn't actually steal much for themselves personally.

    Whatever improvement the Russian people have seen was mostly as a result of high oil prices and now that oil prices are back down these improvements are likely to fade.

    There was a mild 2 year recession and now the economy is growing again.

    For every kopeck that the average Russian sees, Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies.

    Yeah, this is nonsense.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Keep trying and maybe you will make it to the RT payroll!
    , @Jack D
    After Yanukovych was overthrown in Ukraine we got some inkling of the billions that he stole and Ukraine's economy is not even 1/10th the size of Russia's so Putin has surely stolen at least 10x as much as Yanukovych or he should be ashamed of himself.
  274. @Pat Boyle
    I think all this naked hatred against whites is a big mistake for blacks. East Asians with some justice feel they are equal or superior so you don't get much contempt for white accomplishment from them. Hispanics want the goose that lays those golden eggs so they too are circumspect. But Americans blacks no longer bother too conceal their desire to slaughter all whites.

    Let's face it blacks have not worked out in America. Lincoln, Jefferson and Washington never could believe that blacks could ever be social equals to whites. As it turns out - they were right.

    Since the sixties America has embraced a kind of optimism about prospects for racial blending. But all the evidence for the success of racial equality is negative.

    There is a story earlier in this blog thread about America's opioid epidemic. It testifies to the hopelessness that young black men feel. I'm sure its correct. Probably the best way to interpret the black on black shooting that we see in Baltimore, Detroit and Chicago is that it is a new form of suicide - suicide by proxy. The social scientists refuse to believe it but the black kids in the ghetto know the odds against them ever becoming a normal member of society. So they shoot heroin into their arms and shoot their gun at other blacks.

    Meanwhile the white liberals and black militants become increasingly more strident. They have grants and maybe even tenure. They are a long way from the grim realities of street black life. So they indulge in nasty panegyrics against white people. They feel better for this. Most other blacks have no outlet for their frustration. They at least can scream.

    But hating whites is not cost-free. We know that the only people to ever drop an atomic device were white people. We know that the famous Nazi genocide of the Jews was done by white people. So no should doubt that whites can be very nasty indeed. It is in the best long term interest of blacks to cool it - to mollify whites and hope for some answer to emerge. The present course of white liberals and black radicals to spew undiluted hatred at whites looks to me to be another suicide gesture.

    We also know that White South Africans are demonstrating that Whites are quite willing to give up power and allow themselves to be victims of genocide. Pioneers.

  275. @Jack D
    Either math is not their strong suit or else they pretend it is not. They claim that they are practicing "positive" discrimination or just giving people a leg up (from FDR onward Democrats have been great at manipulating the language to make essentially Communist or Statist projects sound as American as apple pie - who could be against giving people a leg up?). The problem is that in many areas (e.g. college admissions) the # of seats, etc. is fixed in the short run so this is what is known as a "zero sum game" - if I "help" one person then I can only do so by "hurting" someone else but white people were not supposed to notice that they were on the losing end of the game. If you "noticed" this made you a "racist" so shut up, you racist. This is not really a recipe for winning love and affection - the beatings will continue until morale improves! And of course, they exempted themselves from their own rules - letting more blacks into Stanford did not mean that Chelsea couldn't attend, it meant that some farm boy from Iowa couldn't go.

    Russian, even today’s rump Russia, is a multicultural society where you can be “Russian” by signing on to the great Russian statist project. Americans always make the mistake of assuming that everyone thinks just like Americans. Putin is impossible to understand in American terms and not a good role model for American white nationalists because Russian history is not like American history and Russians are not Americans.

    Precisely. The Russian raison d’etre since the time of Ivan the Terrible seems to have been never-ending territorial expansion. In the long run, rulers accommodate the views of the most numerous of their subjects. Even the ruthless Mongols became Muslims in majority Muslim regions. The real worry is that in the event that Russia brings the majority Muslim former Soviet Republics back into the fold, is that the demographic avalanche will eventually lead to a Muslim leader in charge of the biggest nuclear arsenal on earth. Note that the Chechen Ruslan Khasbulatov came within a hair’s breadth of becoming the leader of Russia, almost prevailing over Yeltsin.

  276. @anonymous
    Don't forget that some of the elite in Latin America affect a look to appear less European than they really are. From their tanned skin, to their hairdos, facial hair and clothing, they can diminish their European appearance somewhat.

    For example, here is Don Francisco of latino tv fame. Does he look a little mestizo? I thought he did, so I was surprised to find out that his mother and father had emigrated from Europe to escape WW2. Had this guy been born in the USA, he'd be another Jackie Mason.

    My guess is Vincente Fox, with his 'stache and tan, is trying to look more like the locals than what nature had intended.

    Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez getting in touch with his pure Mexican heritage.
    Or is Conor McGregor actually Mexican?

  277. @Lot
    Before "white" was an insult, it was "white bread."

    Before “white” was an insult, it was “white bread.”

    Of course, it was whites, not nonwhites, who led the trend against (literal) white bread.

    The blacks I knew called it “light bread”. though. Hmm…

  278. OT

    Following on from the “AI Gaydar” story, the same researcher is bringing back physiognomy big-time.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/12/artificial-intelligence-face-recognition-michal-kosinski

    “Michal Kosinski – the Stanford University professor who went viral last week for research suggesting that artificial intelligence (AI) can detect whether people are gay or straight based on photos – said sexual orientation was just one of many characteristics that algorithms would be able to predict through facial recognition.

    Using photos, AI will be able to identify people’s political views, whether they have high IQs, whether they are predisposed to criminal behavior, whether they have specific personality traits and many other private, personal details that could carry huge social consequences, he said.

    Kosinski outlined the extraordinary and sometimes disturbing applications of facial detection technology that he expects to see in the near future, raising complex ethical questions about the erosion of privacy and the possible misuse of AI to target vulnerable people.

    “The face is an observable proxy for a wide range of factors, like your life history, your development factors, whether you’re healthy,” he said.”

  279. @Jack D
    Either math is not their strong suit or else they pretend it is not. They claim that they are practicing "positive" discrimination or just giving people a leg up (from FDR onward Democrats have been great at manipulating the language to make essentially Communist or Statist projects sound as American as apple pie - who could be against giving people a leg up?). The problem is that in many areas (e.g. college admissions) the # of seats, etc. is fixed in the short run so this is what is known as a "zero sum game" - if I "help" one person then I can only do so by "hurting" someone else but white people were not supposed to notice that they were on the losing end of the game. If you "noticed" this made you a "racist" so shut up, you racist. This is not really a recipe for winning love and affection - the beatings will continue until morale improves! And of course, they exempted themselves from their own rules - letting more blacks into Stanford did not mean that Chelsea couldn't attend, it meant that some farm boy from Iowa couldn't go.

    …letting more blacks into Stanford did not mean that Chelsea couldn’t attend, it meant that some farm boy from Iowa couldn’t go.

    Miss Chelsea, who makes Ron Reagan look like MIT material, is herself a beneficiary of affirmative action.

  280. @Olorin

    I think all this naked hatred against whites is a big mistake for blacks.
     
    Exactly correct.

    And who do you think taught them to act like this starting in the 1960s?

    And what do you think their motives were?

    If blacks ever wake up to how they have been used, and how badly, in the name of "civil" "rights," there is going to be a reckoning...and suddenly the cry is going to be, "Help us, white man! Call the police/National Guard/Army/Navy/Coast Guard to save us!"

    Or so I'm told by conservative Jews of my acquaintance.

    We know that the only people to ever drop an atomic device were white people.
     
    You mean the guys who flew Enola Gay? No doubt. Most pilots and plane crews in the 1940s US were.

    What about the people who created the device/processes leading up to it in the Manhattan (ahem) Project?

    What about J. Robert Oppenheimer, Frank Oppenheimer, Albert Einstein, Neils Bohr, Leo Szilard, Nicholas Kurti, David Bohm, Rudolf Peierls, Felix Bloch, Paul Wigner, James Chadwick, James Franck, Otto Frisch, Edward Teller, Hans Bethe, Klaus Fuchs, Dick Feynmann, Louis Slotin, Louis Rosen, Morris Kolodney, Ted Hall, Samuel Cohen, Jacob Beser, Samuel Goldsmit, George Placzek, Eugene Rabinowich, Gregory Breit, David Greenglass, Victor Weisskopf, Alvin Weinberg, Isidor Rabi, Joseph Rotblat, George Koval, Stan Frankel, Franz Simon, and David Lilienthal?

    Were they "white people"?

    Were they "white people" when they worked for Hitler?

    Were they "white people" when they spied for Stalin?

    We know that the only people to ever drop an atomic device were white people.

    White Democrats.

    Leave us “economic royalists” out of this.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    "Economic royalists"? Love it.
  281. @Old Palo Altan
    One of the blondest, as well as most beautiful, woman I ever knew was a Mexican. Not only naturally blond, but sky-blue eyes as well.
    When I first met her I asked her how long her family had been in Mexico, ecxpecting her to say that her parents had arrived from Germany in 1945.
    "450 years", she said, "give or take a decade or two".

    It’s a great story but I really doubt that it’s true. To the extent that there are Germans in Mexico (and there are some, esp. German speaking Swiss Mennonites who pioneered the dairy industry in Mexico) they would mostly have arrived starting in the 19th century after the end of Spanish rule. I suppose this woman’s story is possible but I would rate it as highly unlikely.

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    I didn't say that she was German, but that I expected her to say that she was.

    Her answer implies what she certainly believed: that her Spanish ancestors were of the highest class, and that their blondness was thus to be expected.

    This conversation took place not in Mexico but in Rome, in September 1993. She had her months old child with her, who will have just turned 24.

    A life is indeed a very short affair.
  282. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Putin himself doesn’t give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy ...

    YOU are way, way outside the circle of trust.
     

    A big part of it is who Putin pisses off. When Spencer and company continue to praise Putin, they’re fully aware that globalist ‘cosmopolitans’ like Stephens, Boot, and Gessen (#103) will get that much more vocally neurotic. Which leads to more woke goyish noticing.

    The “Western right” (I think you mean alt-right?) knows that ‘cosmopolitans’ don’t give a rat’s ass for white-bread Americans—in fact regards them (along with almost everyone else) as their enemy.

    White-bread ‘fellow Americans’ are way, way outside their circle of trust.

    Of all the traditional Russian things that Putin is, anti-Semite is not one of them.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Nor is he anti-Muslim, one of many issues that Russia's version of the extreme right have with him. He's on record stating that Orthodox Christianity in the 21st Century has far more in common with Islam than with the West. Makhmut Gareev-who clearly enjoys his esteem-is a Sunni Muslim. Russia's lived with Islam a lot longer than any Western nation has, and he's been clear that while Islamism is manifestly unacceptable and that the Orthodox Church enjoys de facto privileged state religion status, it enjoys a place in the national fabric of Russia and is to be safeguarded.

    As for Jews:

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-first-soviet-government-was-mostly-jewish/

    (That's the sort of casual statement that, while not actually anti-Semitic-he was talking to Russian Jewish leaders-demonstrates just how far from a Western politician he is.)

    He clearly respects and admires Israel under Likud, his support of Iran notwithstanding. Easily helped by how Israel has becoming the largest Russophonic nation outside of the former USSR.

  283. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Putin himself doesn’t give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy ...

    YOU are way, way outside the circle of trust.
     

    A big part of it is who Putin pisses off. When Spencer and company continue to praise Putin, they’re fully aware that globalist ‘cosmopolitans’ like Stephens, Boot, and Gessen (#103) will get that much more vocally neurotic. Which leads to more woke goyish noticing.

    The “Western right” (I think you mean alt-right?) knows that ‘cosmopolitans’ don’t give a rat’s ass for white-bread Americans—in fact regards them (along with almost everyone else) as their enemy.

    White-bread ‘fellow Americans’ are way, way outside their circle of trust.

    The alt-right doesn’t often get how ideologically flexible Putin is. He has no qualms about bankrolling Die Linke along with the Front National. As long as they serve his own interests or desires-which first and foremost involve staying on top and staying rich, before we get to Russian nationalism-whatever.

    They also don’t seem to understand that Russia’s hardline, ethinic ultranationalists tend to get locked up by Putin pretty quickly. Putin is not interested in setting off ethnic disputes that could turn ugly very quick in the name of some white consciousness.

  284. @Anatoly Karlin

    Whatever improvement the Russian people have seen was mostly as a result of high oil prices and now that oil prices are back down these improvements are likely to fade.
     
    There was a mild 2 year recession and now the economy is growing again.

    For every kopeck that the average Russian sees, Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies.
     
    Yeah, this is nonsense.

    Keep trying and maybe you will make it to the RT payroll!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Oy, tragic, the Hasbara payroll is much better!
    , @Autochthon
    The man is a Russian in Russia. How do you reckon you know better than he does? (This question is sincere.)
    , @Not Raul
    Does the Weekly Standard pay well these days?
    , @Mr. Anon

    Keep trying and maybe you will make it to the RT payroll!
     
    Did you read what Jack D wrote? "For every kopeck that the average Russian sees, Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies."

    Putin has a billion times more money than the average Russian? That would make him - what? A Trillionaire? A Quadrillionaire? That pretty much does sound like nonsense, as Mr. Karlin said. Perhaps Jack D mis-stated the order of magnitude - he probably did - he's a smart guy - I don't think he'd be off that much. The number I have heard is that Putin is worth somewhere around the order of 10 billion dollars or there abouts (give or take a factor of 2 or 5 either way) - all down to his tireless work on behalf of the Russian people, no doubt.

    Corrupt as Putin is - and even the Clintons are nowhere near as rapacious as he is - his truly epic corruption bothers me less than that of our own public officials. He doesn't govern our country (despite what CNN might believe) - our officials do.
    , @Anatoly Karlin
    You are probably too thick to realize you are the mirror image of Russian propaganda.
  285. @Lot
    Keep trying and maybe you will make it to the RT payroll!

    Oy, tragic, the Hasbara payroll is much better!

  286. @Thea
    i wonder if Putin's American fan club is of any use to him or if they are viewed as either crazy or irrelevant

    They are only useful insofar as they throw sand in the gears of the American political system. Putin views the world as a zero sum game so that whatever weakens American strengthens Russia. This is the same reason Putin made (half-hearted and not very significant) attempts to mess with the election. While in reality these had no effect on the election (despite what Hillary and the Democrats keep saying) they are the kind of thing that Putin likes to do in order to mess with our heads, which he views as even steven because the West keeps sticking its nose in his business.

    I’m sure that they have no love for their American fans because they realize that if the situation was reversed they would regard these guys as traitors. In the old days, you could convince American traitors that they were spying for “world communism” which was a greater cause than mere American patriotism but nowadays they can’t pretend that they represent anything but narrow Russian parochial interests.

    • Replies: @Daniel Chieh
    Putin has claimed in all but name that Russia is a "bastion for traditional values":

    “We see how many of the Euro-Atlantic states are in fact abandoning their own roots, including the Christian roots on which Western civilization is based. The moral principles and all traditional identities have been renounced: national, cultural, religious and even those of gender. According to the policy adopted, families with many children and “same-sex partnerships” or faith in God and faith in Satan are given equal rights.”
    - 2013 speech

    Naturally it gives him a lot of wiggle room for whatever "traditional values" are. Nonetheless, its pretty evidence that it does provide a platform for someone to claim higher moral values and something more than "narrow interests."
    , @BB753
    What happened to the logic behind: the enemy of my enemy is my friend? Since Putin is an enemy of globalists and of the American establishment, and many American conservatives are too, why can't they be friends with Putin?
    , @inertial

    Putin views the world as a zero sum game
     
    .

    Actually, he is one of the last people in Russia who doesn't. Even to this day, he keeps extending a hand to America. Invariably, he gets a kick in the teeth. He grumbles a bit, or, more often, says nothing, and does the same thing again. His oft repeated catchphrase "our American partners" has become a running joke in Russia. He would love nothing better than to become a genuine partner.

    One day we will get a Russian leader that really does believe that the world is zero sum game. Then God help us.
    , @inertial
    Your second paragraph, in short: People who think that Putin has a point about this or that = fans of Putin = traitors = spies.
    , @Mr. Anon

    I’m sure that they have no love for their American fans because they realize that if the situation was reversed they would regard these guys as traitors.
     
    Putin doesn't have many fans, other than among people on the political margin. What there are, are a lot of Americans who just don't accept the elite's proposition that he is somehow our enemy. Not our friend, not our enemy.
  287. @Lot
    Keep trying and maybe you will make it to the RT payroll!

    The man is a Russian in Russia. How do you reckon you know better than he does? (This question is sincere.)

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    Its Lot. He's a savant on every subject under the sun. Much like Art Deco but slightly less autistic.
    , @Lot
    For one thing, if he is a Russian in Russia, he lacks freedom of speech. We do not know what he thinks.

    Of course Putin has made billions. This isn't even a secret. His close relatives do giant business deals.
  288. @Anatoly Karlin

    Whatever improvement the Russian people have seen was mostly as a result of high oil prices and now that oil prices are back down these improvements are likely to fade.
     
    There was a mild 2 year recession and now the economy is growing again.

    For every kopeck that the average Russian sees, Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies.
     
    Yeah, this is nonsense.

    After Yanukovych was overthrown in Ukraine we got some inkling of the billions that he stole and Ukraine’s economy is not even 1/10th the size of Russia’s so Putin has surely stolen at least 10x as much as Yanukovych or he should be ashamed of himself.

    • Replies: @AM

    After Yanukovych was overthrown in Ukraine we got some inkling of the billions that he stole and Ukraine’s economy is not even 1/10th the size of Russia’s so Putin has surely stolen at least 10x as much as Yanukovych or he should be ashamed of himself.
     
    Of course Putin has. And eats children for breakfast, blah, blah.

    The arguments against Putin sound exactly like #NeverTrump arguments. Accuse him of something which is probably not true and claim he's a bad, bad, bad man we should all hate.

    Basically, the only people who seem to wig out on personal level about Putin and think we should all be the same appear to be Russian Jews.

    I am interested now in the level of theft that must be widespread in the Russian Jewish community (the projection here is fascinating), but I digress.

    Putin is the leader of Russia and he appears to have vested interest in the future of Russia. He's not running gulags as far as know. I also know Russian standards of justice historically to be harsher than the West's, but they do not appear to head into real human rights violations. I just can't even think of reason to get mildly interested, let alone upset at Putin. It's Russia and his business. It's refreshing to see leadership that cares about the future.

    , @Jack Hanson
    Ah boy I love when your argument by assertion nonsense runs a hundred miles an hour into an argument of facts.
    , @Anatoly Karlin
    My point was more that its not how the Kremlin actually works.

    First, the ratios you gave out are complete and obvious hyperbole, as you yourself probably realize.

    Second, "Swiss banks" isn't their MO, at least so far as the very top people are concerned. As Navalny's video about Medvedev has shown, the way corruption works is through fake charities funded by billionaire sponsors and managed by close friends and classmates buying up luxury properties, yachts, etc., most of them in Russia, for the exclusive or near exclusive use of Putin's entourage.

    Seeing the obvious interest US intelligence services have in identifying Putin's hundreds of billions in offshore wealth and their continuing failure to do so (this claim, incidentally, that originated with Stanislav Belkovsky, an anti-Putin Russian political scientist), not to mention the logical impossibility of Putin (esp. post-Crimea) ever getting to enjoy his offshore wealth in the event he is forced from power, it is logically unlikely that he has massive offshore assets.

    Comparisons by way of Yanukovych are probably out of place. First, Ukraine is even more corrupt than Russia. Second, Yanukovych and his son had a personal reputation for rapacity, even by regional standards. Third, he didn't have to worry about Western asset freezes until late 2013, when he reversed his pro-EU course in favor of integration with the Customs Union.
  289. @Jack D
    Of all the traditional Russian things that Putin is, anti-Semite is not one of them.

    Nor is he anti-Muslim, one of many issues that Russia’s version of the extreme right have with him. He’s on record stating that Orthodox Christianity in the 21st Century has far more in common with Islam than with the West. Makhmut Gareev-who clearly enjoys his esteem-is a Sunni Muslim. Russia’s lived with Islam a lot longer than any Western nation has, and he’s been clear that while Islamism is manifestly unacceptable and that the Orthodox Church enjoys de facto privileged state religion status, it enjoys a place in the national fabric of Russia and is to be safeguarded.

    As for Jews:

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-first-soviet-government-was-mostly-jewish/

    (That’s the sort of casual statement that, while not actually anti-Semitic-he was talking to Russian Jewish leaders-demonstrates just how far from a Western politician he is.)

    He clearly respects and admires Israel under Likud, his support of Iran notwithstanding. Easily helped by how Israel has becoming the largest Russophonic nation outside of the former USSR.

  290. @Olorin

    I think all this naked hatred against whites is a big mistake for blacks.
     
    Exactly correct.

    And who do you think taught them to act like this starting in the 1960s?

    And what do you think their motives were?

    If blacks ever wake up to how they have been used, and how badly, in the name of "civil" "rights," there is going to be a reckoning...and suddenly the cry is going to be, "Help us, white man! Call the police/National Guard/Army/Navy/Coast Guard to save us!"

    Or so I'm told by conservative Jews of my acquaintance.

    We know that the only people to ever drop an atomic device were white people.
     
    You mean the guys who flew Enola Gay? No doubt. Most pilots and plane crews in the 1940s US were.

    What about the people who created the device/processes leading up to it in the Manhattan (ahem) Project?

    What about J. Robert Oppenheimer, Frank Oppenheimer, Albert Einstein, Neils Bohr, Leo Szilard, Nicholas Kurti, David Bohm, Rudolf Peierls, Felix Bloch, Paul Wigner, James Chadwick, James Franck, Otto Frisch, Edward Teller, Hans Bethe, Klaus Fuchs, Dick Feynmann, Louis Slotin, Louis Rosen, Morris Kolodney, Ted Hall, Samuel Cohen, Jacob Beser, Samuel Goldsmit, George Placzek, Eugene Rabinowich, Gregory Breit, David Greenglass, Victor Weisskopf, Alvin Weinberg, Isidor Rabi, Joseph Rotblat, George Koval, Stan Frankel, Franz Simon, and David Lilienthal?

    Were they "white people"?

    Were they "white people" when they worked for Hitler?

    Were they "white people" when they spied for Stalin?

    Were they “white people” when they worked for Hitler?

    Which of the above worked for Hitler? Any?

    Were they “white people” when they spied for Stalin?

    How many of the above were Soviet spies? A couple but most weren’t.

  291. @Jack D
    They are only useful insofar as they throw sand in the gears of the American political system. Putin views the world as a zero sum game so that whatever weakens American strengthens Russia. This is the same reason Putin made (half-hearted and not very significant) attempts to mess with the election. While in reality these had no effect on the election (despite what Hillary and the Democrats keep saying) they are the kind of thing that Putin likes to do in order to mess with our heads, which he views as even steven because the West keeps sticking its nose in his business.

    I'm sure that they have no love for their American fans because they realize that if the situation was reversed they would regard these guys as traitors. In the old days, you could convince American traitors that they were spying for "world communism" which was a greater cause than mere American patriotism but nowadays they can't pretend that they represent anything but narrow Russian parochial interests.

    Putin has claimed in all but name that Russia is a “bastion for traditional values”:

    “We see how many of the Euro-Atlantic states are in fact abandoning their own roots, including the Christian roots on which Western civilization is based. The moral principles and all traditional identities have been renounced: national, cultural, religious and even those of gender. According to the policy adopted, families with many children and “same-sex partnerships” or faith in God and faith in Satan are given equal rights.”
    – 2013 speech

    Naturally it gives him a lot of wiggle room for whatever “traditional values” are. Nonetheless, its pretty evidence that it does provide a platform for someone to claim higher moral values and something more than “narrow interests.”

  292. Hillary Clinton attacked the patriotic Alt-Right at a speech in Nevada in August of 2016.

    Hillary Clinton said this of the Alt-Right: “This is not conservatism as we have known it, this is not Republicanism as we have known it.”

    David Byrne says: “This ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco, this ain’t no fooling around.”

    Hillary Clinton is right to say that the Alt-Right is a patriotic rejection of “conservatism” and “Republicanism.” Conservatives and Republicans have been pushing globalization, mass immigration and foreign policy interventionism for 50 years. The Republican Party is controlled by evil scum donors who want to demographically transform the United States. Just the same as the Democrats.

    Hillary Clinton was the first globalizer presidential candidate in 50 years to be defeated by a candidate that implicitly supported national sovereignty and the advancement of America First policies that put the interests of the United States ahead of all other nations.

    Globalizer Hillary Clinton attacks the Patriotic Alt-Right:

  293. @Jack D
    I honestly don't understand why the Western right keeps falling for these guys (their last love affair was with Hitler - that didn't turn out well either). Yes, they hate the decadent West and you hate the decadent West, but that doesn't mean that they are your friends.

    First of all, Putin is from a place that is outside of all Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality or freedom or fair play. Americans , no matter how rightist, would never allow themselves to be ruled by a Putin.

    2nd, Putin himself doesn't give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy. Putin sees the world as a series of concentric loyalties - his #1 loyalty is to himself and his family, then to his inner circle, then to the Russian people and YOU are way,way outside the circle of trust.

    First of all, Putin is from a place that is outside of all Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality or freedom or fair play. Americans , no matter how rightist, would never allow themselves to be ruled by a Putin.

    Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality, freedom and fair play carry on only vestigially. The mother country — home of Speaker’s Corner and Westminster — now jails people for rude tweets. The social contract between Crown, nobility, gentry and yeomanry was broken with de-industrialization and mass immigration and emigration. White Anglosphere countries must metaphorically pass one another in the street like strangers because it would be racist to suggest Canada has more in common with Australia or New Zealand than it does with Burma or Burundi.

    You mention freedom and fair play and I point to the last sixteen or twenty-six years of “Wag The Dog”, spin and a kind of low cult of Lie Magic that guides the words and actions of our governing classes. British and American civic virtues are being smothered if they’re not already dead.

    Being considered far outside Putin’s circle of trust would a step up from where the Bush family, Mitt Romney, the Clintons, Dave Cameron, Tony Blair, John McCain or Theresa May place us. Neutrality from a faraway leader is better than active hostility at home.

  294. “Keep trying and maybe you will make it to the RT payroll!”

    I’m continually mystified by the 80s-era geezers who remain fixated on the Russian boogeyman. Thankfully, they are being wed out with age.

  295. Hillary Clinton was tripped up in the presidential debates by one question from Chris Wallace of Fox News. Chris Wallace asked Hillary Clinton about the speech Hillary Clinton gave to Brazilian bankers where Hillary said she dreamed of open borders for the United States.

    Hillary Clinton is an evil baby boomer globalizer.

    Hillary Clinton debate video:

  296. Hate to even say this because it sounds so racist, but isn’t anyone old enough to remember the phrase “That’s mighty white of you?” You can hear it in older movies and radio programs.

    From the OED (the 1919 version, which can hardly be considered susceptible to PC):

    white a.
    4.b. slang or colloq. (by extension from WHITE MAN 3; orig. U.S.) Honourable; square-dealing. Also as adv

    white man
    2.b. orig. U.S. slang. A man of honourable character such as one associates with a European (as distinguished from a negro): see WHITE a. 4 b

  297. @Anatoly Karlin
    Actually considerably above them (currently 72.5 years; peak Soviet level was 69.9 years, in 1987).

    And if soviet life expectancy had gone up with the rest of the world what would it be now? Norway, which is an actually competently run country and was in 1990 as well, had a 6 year increase since 1990. So think of the improvement you could expect by going from a poorly run country to a competently run one (hint: it doesn’t look anything like what happened in Russia under Putin)

    And even the paltry 2.6 year increase you cite is more the 1.4 that google gives.

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    1. The statistics Google gives are derived from sources like the WHO, who in turn get their data from national statistics services. They are by definition less reliable than the latest national statistics service data.

    2. I have never said that the USSR was a "competently run country," especially when it comes to life expectancy. You putting words in my mouth.

    Moreover, I have in fact written a lot over the years about Russian demographics, including the stagnation of life expectancy during the post-1960s Soviet period.

    As concerns specifically Putin, life expectancy rose from 65 years at the start of his rule to what will be close to 72 years in 2016 (and probably 73 years this year).
  298. @Declane
    Just out of curiosity I googled the president of Mexico to see how white he looked. He looks as white as the average Italian-American in my neighborhood. It's funny how people talk about Mexicans and racism and all that without ever acknowledging that there are basically two races in Mexico - the ones with a drop of native blood and the ones with a bucket.

    But he is 5'7" so at least he shows his solidarity with his lessers by not reaching his full European height.

    Former President of Mexico Vincente Fox with Spain’s Felipe Borbon.
    In the picture, ‘Mexican’ Fox actually looks slightly whiter than Spaniard de Borbon.
    And Vincente is 6’4″.
    Your typical Aztec.

    http://www.gettyimages.in/detail/news-photo/prince-felipe-de-borbon-and-wife-letizia-ortiz-pose-for-a-news-photo/51078436#prince-felipe-de-borbon-and-wife-letizia-ortiz-pose-for-a-picture-picture-id51078436

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Supposedly Felipe is 6'-6" but he looks more than 2" taller than Fox so someone is lying.

    Just as with Che, the beard darkens Felipe's appearance. When you see him as a clean cut young man he is obviously quite fair:

    http://a.abcnews.com/images/Business/gty_prince_felipe_18_kb_140602_4x3_992.jpg
  299. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “Whatever improvement the Russian people have seen was mostly as a result of high oil prices and now that oil prices are back down these improvements are likely to fade. ”

    The Russian economy is projected to grow around 2% annually for the next two years. So, no. So much for that theory. The Russian economy will not experience the same disorganization of the 90s. Anyone who says that doesn’t know what they are talking about. That was a unique situation that will not be repeated.

    You seem to have some kind of fixation with Putin. In nearly every post on the subject, you feign knowledge about Putin, his psychology, and Russia that you clearly don’t have. You make assertions (which are debunked) and attempt to portray Putin as some kind of boogeyman that he most certainly is not. Putin isn’t even on the same level of evil as our leaders. Our last two presidents killed thousands of innocent civilians with drone strikes. Our current president makes crazy declarations of “fire and brimstone” against the North Koreans. And it wasn’t Putin who lied about WMD and invaded Iraq, resulting in up to 100,000 civilian deaths. That was done by one of ours.

    Putin is just a guy looking out for his country’s interests – no different from most other guys. Perhaps that is what burns you so badly. Our leaders clearly don’t have our best interests at heart. It must really rub you wrong as an 80s Reaganite to see the Russians do what you wish would be done here as well – to see their leaders as clearly superior to our own in contrast to all the jingoistic 80s propaganda that was around at the time.

  300. @Jack D
    They are only useful insofar as they throw sand in the gears of the American political system. Putin views the world as a zero sum game so that whatever weakens American strengthens Russia. This is the same reason Putin made (half-hearted and not very significant) attempts to mess with the election. While in reality these had no effect on the election (despite what Hillary and the Democrats keep saying) they are the kind of thing that Putin likes to do in order to mess with our heads, which he views as even steven because the West keeps sticking its nose in his business.

    I'm sure that they have no love for their American fans because they realize that if the situation was reversed they would regard these guys as traitors. In the old days, you could convince American traitors that they were spying for "world communism" which was a greater cause than mere American patriotism but nowadays they can't pretend that they represent anything but narrow Russian parochial interests.

    What happened to the logic behind: the enemy of my enemy is my friend? Since Putin is an enemy of globalists and of the American establishment, and many American conservatives are too, why can’t they be friends with Putin?

  301. @jackson
    OT: have you heard about the recent LAPD cadet scandal (cadets stealing patrol cars and weapons)?

    Also, have you seen the demographics of the cadets lately? See here.

    I’m reminded of a Rodney Dangerfield (R.I.P.) line, “When I was a kid, our neighborhood was so tough that we stole cop cars…[dramatic pause]…with the cops in em’!”

  302. @Jack D
    After Yanukovych was overthrown in Ukraine we got some inkling of the billions that he stole and Ukraine's economy is not even 1/10th the size of Russia's so Putin has surely stolen at least 10x as much as Yanukovych or he should be ashamed of himself.

    After Yanukovych was overthrown in Ukraine we got some inkling of the billions that he stole and Ukraine’s economy is not even 1/10th the size of Russia’s so Putin has surely stolen at least 10x as much as Yanukovych or he should be ashamed of himself.

    Of course Putin has. And eats children for breakfast, blah, blah.

    The arguments against Putin sound exactly like #NeverTrump arguments. Accuse him of something which is probably not true and claim he’s a bad, bad, bad man we should all hate.

    Basically, the only people who seem to wig out on personal level about Putin and think we should all be the same appear to be Russian Jews.

    I am interested now in the level of theft that must be widespread in the Russian Jewish community (the projection here is fascinating), but I digress.

    Putin is the leader of Russia and he appears to have vested interest in the future of Russia. He’s not running gulags as far as know. I also know Russian standards of justice historically to be harsher than the West’s, but they do not appear to head into real human rights violations. I just can’t even think of reason to get mildly interested, let alone upset at Putin. It’s Russia and his business. It’s refreshing to see leadership that cares about the future.

  303. @Jack D
    Whatever improvement the Russian people have seen was mostly as a result of high oil prices and now that oil prices are back down these improvements are likely to fade. For every kopeck that the average Russian sees, Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies. BTW, the Russian standard of living did improve under the Communists (except at the very end when things started to fall apart). By world historical standards (and Putin standards) the Communists stole remarkably little for themselves because they really believed that stuff at the beginning. Mostly they just wasted it on the military and in inefficiency but they didn't actually steal much for themselves personally.

    A. ” By world historical standards (and Putin standards) the Communists stole remarkably little for themselves because they really believed that stuff at the beginning. ”

    B. (((…)))

    C. “…Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies.”

    Hey Tdzak, you’ve missed to disclose in your “ABC ‘s Of Who’s Robbing Russians” expose anything about, by world historical standards, Grand Theft Country that occured AFTER USSR Communists departed, and BEFORE Vlad took power over remnants of the evil empire

    bored identity will take this opportunity to remind commentariat that , by iSteve historical standards, Semibankirschina is something that Tdzak D prefers to ignore everytime he mccaines some warmongering bovine excrement against The Evil Emperor That Couldn’t:

    “Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn used term ‘Semibankirschina’ in his critical 1998 essay Russia under Avalanche to describe the current political regime and to warn people of what he considered an organized crime syndicate that controlled the President and 70% of all Russian money.

    The identities of seven bankers are usually linked to the interview given by Boris Berezovsky to Financial Times where he names seven people who together controlled about 50% of all Russian economics and influenced the most important internal political decisions of Russia:

    Boris Berezovsky
    Mikhail Fridman
    Vladimir Gusinsky
    Mikhail Khodorkovsky
    Vladimir Potanin
    Alexander Smolensky
    Pyotr Aven

    also,
    Vladimir Vinogradov
    and Vitaly Malkin.

    They formed what became known as Semibankirschina (or seven bankers), a small group of business moguls with a great influence on Boris Yeltsin and his political environment.

    Together they controlled from 50% to 70% of all Russian finances between 1996 and 2000.

    Fridman, Potanin, Aven and Malkin are the only ones on the list to have retained their influence in the Putin era.

    Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky and Gusinsky “have been purged by the Kremlin.”

    • Replies: @Thea
    Khodorkovsky is treated like a hero in the American press. He is their Russian Jewish Mandela or Ann Sun Su Kyi ( that Burmese lady.) he now sits poolside in Switzerland after fleecing the Russian people. But we are supposed to hate Putin.
  304. @AndrewR
    Having said all that, it is kinda surprising that in a city as huge and cosmopolitan as Boston that the casting directors were unable to find an Argentinian of similar ethnic background to play Che, or at least an American with Che's approximate admixture.

    Shouldn’t be hard to find a Lynch in boston.

  305. I don’t think Hillary’s use here is an example of the all-purpose white insult, nor is it gratuitous. She’s saying without saying that Putin and Trump are both authoritarian for the benefit of whites, and to the detriment of non-whites. This makes them worse than garden-variety authoritarians. It makes them Hitler, Literally.

    As for when “white” became an all-purpose insult, I don’t know. Good Morning Vietnam came out in like 1987, and in the climax the main character says something to his antagonist about the latter being more in need of blow job than any “white man” in history. Which confused me, because Robin Williams is white and his character is named Cronauer, which sounds German. Possibly the screenwriter was Jewish. Barry Levinson, the director, certainly is. But why did they think a general audience would except that, especially where the most effective punchline of the whole movie oughtta be?

    Granted, Williams was playing a nonconformist, it was the White Man’s Army, and humor has its own rules. But it always struck me how they expected the audience to accept it uncritically. “Oh yeah, us white guys sure need to put our what-nots in more ladies’ mouths. You tell ’em, Robin.”

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I don't think that's true in either case.

    "She’s saying without saying that Putin and Trump are both authoritarian for the benefit of whites, and to the detriment of non-whites."
  306. @Anonymous
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is indeed a nationalist, but not a "white nationalist". He is a Russian nationalist. Russians are not all necessarily all that white-there are Asian and Middle Eastern admixtures in much of the Greater Russian population-but VV Putin does not care about that.

    If it's Russian, he's for it. If he thinks it's bad for Russia, he's against it. Very simple.

    He has a simple yardstick. Oh sure, he likes to wield power, and he is no ascetic or monk. He is very wealthy. But if he thinks it's bad for Russia and Russians no amount of money would sway him.

    I think Trump is a decent person in many ways, but Putin is a far more serious, a far more powerful man. I doubt America will ever really have a Putin.

    Damn shame, really.

    Putin sucks in a lot of ways as well – he is a man of late Soviet mentality. Russia is very unprepared for the future peak and decline in oil demand, despite having had the last 17 years of oil bonanza to prepare for it (half-hearted flops like Skolkovo aside).

    • Replies: @Lot
    Wow, a Russian on Unz.com who is not a Putin is God-Solon-Pericles fanboy.
  307. @Cagey Beast
    Putin sees himself as an ethnic Russian running the multi-ethnic Russian Federation. That's the hand Russia has had to play for centuries. Putin and his supporters have wrapped their minds around this and it's of no import whether Stormfront types have managed to do the same. Putin is not an ethnic nationalist in the narrow, nasty 19th and 20th century form. He seems much more like an Austrian in the Austro-Hungarian Empire if that had managed to become a republic. That's probably a better model for Whites going forward anyway.

    Our wise and kind managerial classes have used mass exotic immigration to give us a bunch of quickly thrown together modern versions of the Austro-Hungarian, Ottoman and Russian Empires to live in whether we want it or not. Putin's Russianness may be a good template for American Whiteness.

    In Russia today, national minorities generally have priorities over the national majority, everything is suppressed by happy national media, much of government work is mediating between interests of differing oligarch demands, and the industries they run, and certain difficult future situations (such as a massively growing Muslim demographics, or even a certain Muslim (ex-Jihadist) prince of a certain federal subject extorting huge federal wealth transfers, is brushed under the carpet). Not sure if it’s a good role model for the United States. If anything, Russia, like Brazil, is one of the few countries which makes the US look functional by comparison.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Putin's relationship with Ramzan Kadyrov is kind of like if Trump appointed Lil Wayne the King of the Blacks and gave him a billion dollars per year to live the African American Dream.

    Note, I'm not saying that would be a bad thing ...

  308. @Charles Pewitt
    Hillary Clinton is a boozehound hypocrite who lives in the mostly White town of Chappaqua, New York. Chappaqua is in Westchester County, New York. Chester is some form of the Roman word for camp. Hillary Clinton can be found at her imperial compound in the mostly White town of Chappaqua, New York doing the thing Hillary Clinton loves to do: drinking booze and attacking her fellow White people. That is Hillary Clinton's hobby.

    I hereby submit to you my belief that on the morning of September 11 of 2016 Hillary Clinton was both drunk as a skunk and hungover at the same time. Hillary Clinton's inner rancidity was so great that her body rebelled against the excessive amounts of booze that she had imbibed the night before and then again starting in the morning.

    Exhibit (A) of my assertion that Hillary Clinton was both drunk as a skunk and hungover on September 11 2016:

    https://twitter.com/zgazda66/status/774993814025011200

    Ah yes, the one year anniversary of that blessed event.

  309. People of Color are fed up with white men and their evil ways

  310. @Jack D
    They are only useful insofar as they throw sand in the gears of the American political system. Putin views the world as a zero sum game so that whatever weakens American strengthens Russia. This is the same reason Putin made (half-hearted and not very significant) attempts to mess with the election. While in reality these had no effect on the election (despite what Hillary and the Democrats keep saying) they are the kind of thing that Putin likes to do in order to mess with our heads, which he views as even steven because the West keeps sticking its nose in his business.

    I'm sure that they have no love for their American fans because they realize that if the situation was reversed they would regard these guys as traitors. In the old days, you could convince American traitors that they were spying for "world communism" which was a greater cause than mere American patriotism but nowadays they can't pretend that they represent anything but narrow Russian parochial interests.

    Putin views the world as a zero sum game

    .

    Actually, he is one of the last people in Russia who doesn’t. Even to this day, he keeps extending a hand to America. Invariably, he gets a kick in the teeth. He grumbles a bit, or, more often, says nothing, and does the same thing again. His oft repeated catchphrase “our American partners” has become a running joke in Russia. He would love nothing better than to become a genuine partner.

    One day we will get a Russian leader that really does believe that the world is zero sum game. Then God help us.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    He's a saint, I tell you, a saint! A long suffering saint put upon by the Americans again and again. I weep for Vladimir Vladimirovich, I really do.
  311. @Dr. X

    The idea that Putin is a committed ethnic nationalist is a useful myth both for the American left and for the weird white nationalist Putin fanboys who seem to believe it as well. The truth is Putin doesn’t give a damn about “white identity”, he is a statist.
     
    Yeah, but Putin is a "statist" in a lily-white country. Ergo, Russian nationalism is white Russian nationalism. You don't see him importing Syrians, Turks, Pakistanis and Africans like Merkel and May, do you?

    The national minorities in the country have disproportionate power relative to the national majority. And the legal and illegal immigration from the CIS states – Caucasia and Central Asia, is equivalent to the situation of Latin American immigration in the United States.

    The configuration in the US is different – where the European majority has traditionally held power, wealth and prestige. Whereas in Russia, the majority nationality does not really have such a position, and national minorities are embedded in the ruling class (there’s not need of ‘affirmative action’). Compare the richest man in the US – Bill Gates (derived from the majority nationality of the country). While in Russia – Alisher Usmanov (who represents a nationality of some 1% within the country).

  312. @Jack D
    They are only useful insofar as they throw sand in the gears of the American political system. Putin views the world as a zero sum game so that whatever weakens American strengthens Russia. This is the same reason Putin made (half-hearted and not very significant) attempts to mess with the election. While in reality these had no effect on the election (despite what Hillary and the Democrats keep saying) they are the kind of thing that Putin likes to do in order to mess with our heads, which he views as even steven because the West keeps sticking its nose in his business.

    I'm sure that they have no love for their American fans because they realize that if the situation was reversed they would regard these guys as traitors. In the old days, you could convince American traitors that they were spying for "world communism" which was a greater cause than mere American patriotism but nowadays they can't pretend that they represent anything but narrow Russian parochial interests.

    Your second paragraph, in short: People who think that Putin has a point about this or that = fans of Putin = traitors = spies.

  313. Mugabe be evil, and I mean WHITE evil, dig.

  314. @Charles Pewitt
    Hillary Clinton is a boozehound hypocrite who lives in the mostly White town of Chappaqua, New York. Chappaqua is in Westchester County, New York. Chester is some form of the Roman word for camp. Hillary Clinton can be found at her imperial compound in the mostly White town of Chappaqua, New York doing the thing Hillary Clinton loves to do: drinking booze and attacking her fellow White people. That is Hillary Clinton's hobby.

    I hereby submit to you my belief that on the morning of September 11 of 2016 Hillary Clinton was both drunk as a skunk and hungover at the same time. Hillary Clinton's inner rancidity was so great that her body rebelled against the excessive amounts of booze that she had imbibed the night before and then again starting in the morning.

    Exhibit (A) of my assertion that Hillary Clinton was both drunk as a skunk and hungover on September 11 2016:

    https://twitter.com/zgazda66/status/774993814025011200

    Stuff WASPs like: sending little Chip (or Trip) to Camp Chesterfield for the Summer.

  315. @Lot
    Keep trying and maybe you will make it to the RT payroll!

    Does the Weekly Standard pay well these days?

  316. @NickG
    Steve Bannon, in his recent 60 mins interview, said that Hillary is not very bright. I think he is right.

    Combine this with her being in a filter bubble, it seems likely that she, and hopefully the Dems too, cannot resist doubling down on identity politics, with whites as the bogey man. Being whites themselves, they see being ostentatiously anti white as a status symbol. They are running some weird combination of primate dominance display, combined with a bird of paradise like virtue signal. No doubt Jordan Peterson could wax lyrical on what's going on.

    They seem not to understand cause and effect....of karma. Identity politics begets identity politics and whites are, ever so gently for now, starting to play. The Dems themselves have and still are strategically facilitating the Sailer strategy. Many of us badwhites think this is wonderful, it's certainly entertaining.

    Steve Bannon points out that many of the brighter pinkoes know this doubling down on identity politics is an error. But it seems likely that the identity politics push has gotten an unstoppable momentum of its own. Hopefully they will pick another POC as their next leader, here's hoping for Kamala Harris.

    The Bannon interview was fun to watch. I wish they'd just played the full thing without editing. I guess that's too much to expect.

    Being whites themselves, they see being ostentatiously anti white as a status symbol.

    Indeed, how many times have we seen some dim wit SJW say online “But I’m white, how can I be anti-white?”

  317. @Anon
    Putin has improved the living standard for the average Russian and improved the Russian economy quite a bit. This is a big departure from all his predecessors be they communists or Tsars, who all just lined their own pockets and didn't care about the average person. It's also a big departure for an autocrat, period. Autocrats all over the world in all eras just look after themselves and don't care about the 'little people.' Putin didn't have to bother, but he did. That indicates to me that he is moved by something other than simple self-interest.

    “Clooney is a loser who hasn’t been in a good movie since George W. was president”

    American, Descendants, Gravity, Tomorrowland.

    Not bad.

    “The Coens are also overrated hacks who make artsy-fartsy movies that appeal only to other hacks who like to think of themselves as more sophisticated than the lower classes they despise.”

    As with Allen, they had their misses. But unlike Allen, even their lesser films have something to recommend them.

    And they had some homeruns, esp Barton Fink, Big Lebowski, and O Brother.

    Many of their films are enjoyable. At any rate, they’ve rarely been artsy-fartsy.
    They go for cult-middlebrow.

    Their most ‘artsy’ movie was maybe Inside Llewyn Davis. Lacks a core but has some images that linger. Works as mood piece.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    You're messing w one of my pet peeves. Clooney from 08 to 2013 made some of my favorite films ever.

    The American, Up in the Air, Ides, etc were really good films. Ive seen the American probably 30 times
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Thank you! I've been trying to remember the name of that movie. I saw it only a few years back, but I couldn't remember the name, much less the director or who the hell was in it. I do remember the cat (and the replacement cat), but it's hard to look things up based on cats - too many cats on the internet.
  318. For your Perusal Steve: http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/09/12/this-land-is-their-land-america-europe-fear-of-migrants-trump/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=New%20Campaign&utm_term=%2AEditors%20Picks

    Regarding the actual topic, I’ve always been fascinated by the word games you Americans play. Why the N-word, and not the W-word?

  319. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Putin has improved the living standard for the average Russian and improved the Russian economy quite a bit. This is a big departure from all his predecessors be they communists or Tsars, who all just lined their own pockets and didn't care about the average person. It's also a big departure for an autocrat, period. Autocrats all over the world in all eras just look after themselves and don't care about the 'little people.' Putin didn't have to bother, but he did. That indicates to me that he is moved by something other than simple self-interest.

    “They’re not used to the idea that this country is fragmenting into masses that no longer assimilate and that-old fashioned coalition building no longer works on a national level.”

    Not quite.

    Among non-white minorities, only two are problematic. Blacks and ‘Hispanics’. Blacks are prone to violence, volume, and bad behavior. Mexicans(bulk of ‘Hispanics’) are not problematic per se, but there are now TOO MANY of them. This would not be a problem if Mexico was far away like Pakistan. But it has long border with the US.

    As for other non-white minorities, they could easily assimilate IF there was a solid, confident, and insistent majority and proud narrative. Back in 75 when I was living in a housing project filled with diversity, ‘American’ was synonymous with White, and no one was bothered by it or offended by it.

    It became a problem because of the rise of PC that instilled minority kids and then non-white intellectuals around the world with anti-white ideology. White Leftists injected anti-white-ness into these kids. Look at Canada. White teachers and professors fill non-white kids with anti-white hate. It’s like a drug to white ‘leftists’ to feel so good about themselves as virtuous good whites dumping on bad whites and embracing ‘diversity’.

    In many cases, you will find the immigrant parents of these kids are far less anti-white or not anti-white at all. It’s their kids who pick it up from pop culture and PC.
    Also, multi-culturalism doesn’t create separate identities in the US with the possible exception of Mexicans who have a historic claim to SW areas and are the solid majority in many parts of SW.
    For most non-black minorities, multi-culturalism just means bitching about whites. It’s more about anti-white than pro-anything. After all, they willfully chose to leave their own nations, cultures, and peoples to come and live in a foreign land, the US. So, multi-culturalism puts them in a limbo. They don’t want to be part of the old world and its heritage , which they eagerly left. Many cannot speak their own language or even know any history. Their entire worldview is pop culture and PC. But multi-culturalism tells them not to join with White. So, they are stuck in a limbo state. That is why these limbo-kids attach themselves to homo culture or black stuff(BLMx100 to enter Stanford, Seoul Brother, etc).

    Back in 75, before all this multi-cultural PC stuff, most non-whites just wanted to part of what they understood to be White America.

    Now, how did things turn out this way? Well, there is the factor of White Leftism. But there is also the problematic white minority, the Jewish Community that is paranoid about whiteness and Christianity and have been using ‘white guilt’ to tame and manipulate whites. For ‘white guilt’ to be activated, whites must be impugned as the oppressor vis-a-vis just about any minority group.

    • Replies: @Opinionator

    As for other non-white minorities, they could easily assimilate IF there was a solid, confident, and insistent majority and proud narrative....

    ...It became a problem because of the rise of PC that instilled minority kids and then non-white intellectuals around the world with anti-white ideology....

    ...Back in 75, before all this multi-cultural PC stuff, most non-whites just wanted to part of what they understood to be White America.

    Now, how did things turn out this way? Well, there is the factor of White Leftism. But there is also the problematic white minority, the Jewish Community that is paranoid about whiteness and Christianity and have been using ‘white guilt’ to tame and manipulate whites....
     
    For a political group whose ideology is based on non-assimilation, it is advantageous to deflate assimilationist pressures in its host environment.
  320. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Did you guys hear the Ms. America Pageant final questions this year?

    "There are multiple investigations into whether Trump's campaign colluded with Russia on the election. Well, did they? You're the jury: guilty or innocent? And please explain your verdict."

    "Last month, a demonstration of neo-Nazis, white supremacists and the KKK in Charlottesville, Va., turned violent and a counterprotester was killed. The president said there was shared blame with 'very fine people' on both sides. Were there? Tell me yes or no, and explain."

    "One hundred ninety-five countries signed the Paris agreement, in which each country sets nonbinding goals to reduce man-made climate change. The U.S. is withdrawing from the agreement, citing negligible environmental effects and negative economic impact. Good decision? Bad decision? Which is it and why?"

    "A recent poll found slightly over half of Americans favored leaving Confederate statues in place, while others want them removed. Keep them or get rid of them? What's your vote and why?"

    "Given the evidence that concussions from playing football can cause brain damage, would you support legislation that outlaws full-contact football in elementary and high school? Yes or no, and why?"
    http://www.nola.com/tv/index.ssf/2017/09/miss_america_interview_questio.html

     

    “Did you guys hear the Ms. America Pageant final questions this year?….. ”

    This is leftism at its finest. It squeezes its way into everything, everything is a political lesson on what they view is right, all is distorted, everything is a test to weed out the dissenters.

    I remember getting a look at one point at an English textbook used to teach during Maoist China. Interestingly, just about every page had a sentence somewhere in it teaching the tenements of Communism, praising the Communist government, or being a good worker, etc. I’m sick of this BS going on here. These fools want to live this way, go to North Korea. Leave everyone else the h*ll alone.

    • Replies: @Roderick Spode
    Aww. You self-censored the word 'Hell.' Thanks for sparing us!
  321. @Jack D
    Einstein was in fact a pacifist. The only reason he signed the famous letter to Roosevelt which got the ball rolling on the Manhattan Project was that his fellow emigres were able to convince him that the Germans were working on nuclear weapons and it would be very bad for Hitler to get atomic weapons first. The 2nd half of that is true, but it turns out that the Germans for whatever reason did not get very far on nuclear weapons.

    "Whatever reason" might include the fact that they considered much of the important theoretical underpinnings to be Jüdische Physik and therefore off limits from consideration in weapons design and the fact that many of their most important nuclear scientists were Jewish and therefore not able to participate in the effort.

    Jack D,

    One of the reasons that the Germans did not get very far along with development of the atomic bomb was that the British, working in close collaboration with the Norwegian resistance, first sabotaged the Norwegian facility in which they were producing heavy water, but not completely, and then later, after waiting until the Germans had produced several tanker train cars full of heavy water from the plant that then had to be transported on a ferry down a fjord for export to Germany, they then sank the ferry when it was over the deepest part of the fjord (very deep indeed) by means of a bomb aboard the ferry. This cost the lives of innocent Norwegians, but the resistance adjudged this sacrifice to be justified by the result.

    If I remember correctly, the great German physicist, Werner Heisenberg, who had been drafted to explore the potential for such a weapon, but who was secretly horrified by the prospect of putting this at the disposal of the Nazi regime, was also dragging his feet, and slowing down the work.

    So these are two reasons beyond the hard-core Nazi predisposition against Jüdische Physik that the German program did not progress.

  322. @Jack D
    If you consider the millions upon millions of dead as a result of the two 20th century world wars, you might wonder if nationalism really "worked" for the average European either.

    If you consider the millions upon millions of dead as a result of the two 20th century world wars, you might wonder if nationalism really “worked” for the average European either.

    If you think those wars were driven by “nationalism” then you really don’t know much about it.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Hitler called his movement "National Socialism" so you might forgive me for imagining that nationalism and socialism had something to do with his ideology.

    You can play "no true Scotsman" and pretend that the "false" nationalism of Wilhelm and Hitler have nothing to do with the good, pure kind of nationalism that never starts wars, but you would just be playing word games.
  323. @Cagey Beast
    White women consider White men their men and the global village to be their village.

    We all naturally think at the social scale of the village but this is doubly true for women. White women don't really care what the Arab, African or Chinese families in the global village do; they care about policing, shaming and (hopefully) uplifting their own children and men. Saudis and Chinese can publicly execute prisoners 'till the cows come home and White ladies will barely wrinkle their little noses but if "that man!" Putin takes his shirt off while fishing then their whole day is ruined. Putin is sort of the brother-in-law of Hillary's cousin in the global village and so it's her job to shame and police him. "I don't care what the Arabs do! In this family we're nice to gays!".

    This White lady world-view is fine and dandy at the level of the literal village but will be the death of us at the level of the mythical global village. Hillary Clinton, Madeline Albright and Samantha Power are the bossy Lady Bountifuls from the manor going around town shaming "their" men and uplifting the poor. Long story short, this is why we need to keep our ladies out of high level politics until they have the friend and enemy distinctions made perfectly clear to them.

    “Saudis and Chinese can publicly execute prisoners ’till the cows come home and White ladies will barely wrinkle their little noses but if “that man!” Putin takes his shirt off while fishing then their whole day is ruined. ”

    I’m all in favor of public executions (for crimes like murder and rape) and a shirtless Putin (while fishing or at any other time).

    Women, whether or not they’re white and/or ladies, need to stay out of politics and anything to do with public policy. Women never seem content merely to govern, they insist on ruling.

  324. It is going to get worse. A lot worse than just name calling.

  325. • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Thanks.
    , @Jack D
    That is a bizarre and twisted reading of Orwell but she is not alone (except in her unique ham-fistedness). Apparently there has been an uptick in sales of 1984 because Leftist democrats somehow see Trump as Big Brother. Of course they don't recognize their own tactics as Orwellian in the least - what are you talking about? But only Hillary could take it a step further and say that the lesson of 1984 is that you should rely more on trusted authority figures. Gore and Kerry were also pretty clueless and out of touch but Hillary is really a special kind of stupid and tone deaf.
  326. @eah
    OT

    Inside The Opioid Crisis: What The Mainstream Media Won't Let You See

    http://stockboardasset.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Screen-Shot-2017-09-11-at-9.23.02-AM-1.png

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/12/artificial-intelligence-face-recognition-michal-kosinski

    Hey Steve, never mind gayface…..seems your iq, political leanings, criminal disposition & other things will soon be recognisable based on ai…..

    Expect insurance companies to compile the data to create profiles on individuals. Surely it will be shared w the cops and spooks. Phillip K Dick will be revealed to be even more of a genius than he already is thought of….

  327. White became an insult sometime after Obama was elected. Somehow, nobody managed to question the clown parade of incompetent blacks and Hispanics whom he appointed to top cabinet level positions, despite the deep field of white talent, because — hey — white people are evil oppressors. Obama even fired the legendary Russia scholar Dr James Billington, who had been Librian of Congress since being appointed by Reagan, then replaced him with an actual black lady librarian from Chicago.

    Yes, indeed: welcome to our dumb America.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Well the job is called librarian so who better to get than an actual librarian? Amirite?
  328. @Anon
    "Clooney is a loser who hasn’t been in a good movie since George W. was president"

    American, Descendants, Gravity, Tomorrowland.

    Not bad.

    "The Coens are also overrated hacks who make artsy-fartsy movies that appeal only to other hacks who like to think of themselves as more sophisticated than the lower classes they despise."

    As with Allen, they had their misses. But unlike Allen, even their lesser films have something to recommend them.

    And they had some homeruns, esp Barton Fink, Big Lebowski, and O Brother.

    Many of their films are enjoyable. At any rate, they've rarely been artsy-fartsy.
    They go for cult-middlebrow.

    Their most 'artsy' movie was maybe Inside Llewyn Davis. Lacks a core but has some images that linger. Works as mood piece.

    You’re messing w one of my pet peeves. Clooney from 08 to 2013 made some of my favorite films ever.

    The American, Up in the Air, Ides, etc were really good films. Ive seen the American probably 30 times

    • Replies: @Kylie
    "The American, Up in the Air, Ides, etc were really good films. Ive seen the American probably 30 times"

    Either you don't shoot or laughably inept handling of firearms in movies doesn't bother you.
  329. @Lot
    Keep trying and maybe you will make it to the RT payroll!

    Keep trying and maybe you will make it to the RT payroll!

    Did you read what Jack D wrote? “For every kopeck that the average Russian sees, Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies.”

    Putin has a billion times more money than the average Russian? That would make him – what? A Trillionaire? A Quadrillionaire? That pretty much does sound like nonsense, as Mr. Karlin said. Perhaps Jack D mis-stated the order of magnitude – he probably did – he’s a smart guy – I don’t think he’d be off that much. The number I have heard is that Putin is worth somewhere around the order of 10 billion dollars or there abouts (give or take a factor of 2 or 5 either way) – all down to his tireless work on behalf of the Russian people, no doubt.

    Corrupt as Putin is – and even the Clintons are nowhere near as rapacious as he is – his truly epic corruption bothers me less than that of our own public officials. He doesn’t govern our country (despite what CNN might believe) – our officials do.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    $10 billion is way, way low. In just the Sochi Olympics alone they think that $30 billion was diverted to Putin and his inner circle.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-olympics-sochi-corruption/billions-stolen-in-sochi-olympics-preparations-russian-opposition-idUSBRE94T0RU20130530

    Some have said $40 billion

    http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/

    but if you are the Czar of all the Russias then in effect EVERYTHING is yours. There is no one in Russia who can say no to Putin - if he wants something, it is his.

    We will never really know the extent of Putin's wealth until he is overthrown. The Ukrainian public had no hint of how many billions Yanukovich stole until he was ousted and Yanukovich was just a small timer compared to Putin. As I said before, if Putin has not stolen AT LEAST 10 times as much as Yanukovich he should be ashamed of himself - no self-respecting kleptocrat should allow himself to be outdone by such a third rater.
    , @Lot
    I agree Putin is superior to Hillary, Obama, and Merkel. That is a very low bar.

    We should not be looking to him, but to the great patriots our history and Western nationalists. Putin might have done great things for Russia, instead he stole billions, wasted more on a bloated police state and military, and sits by on his golden toilet while the Russian people disappear.
  330. @Jack D
    They are only useful insofar as they throw sand in the gears of the American political system. Putin views the world as a zero sum game so that whatever weakens American strengthens Russia. This is the same reason Putin made (half-hearted and not very significant) attempts to mess with the election. While in reality these had no effect on the election (despite what Hillary and the Democrats keep saying) they are the kind of thing that Putin likes to do in order to mess with our heads, which he views as even steven because the West keeps sticking its nose in his business.

    I'm sure that they have no love for their American fans because they realize that if the situation was reversed they would regard these guys as traitors. In the old days, you could convince American traitors that they were spying for "world communism" which was a greater cause than mere American patriotism but nowadays they can't pretend that they represent anything but narrow Russian parochial interests.

    I’m sure that they have no love for their American fans because they realize that if the situation was reversed they would regard these guys as traitors.

    Putin doesn’t have many fans, other than among people on the political margin. What there are, are a lot of Americans who just don’t accept the elite’s proposition that he is somehow our enemy. Not our friend, not our enemy.

  331. @Avery
    Former President of Mexico Vincente Fox with Spain's Felipe Borbon.
    In the picture, 'Mexican' Fox actually looks slightly whiter than Spaniard de Borbon.
    And Vincente is 6'4".
    Your typical Aztec.

    http://www.gettyimages.in/detail/news-photo/prince-felipe-de-borbon-and-wife-letizia-ortiz-pose-for-a-news-photo/51078436#prince-felipe-de-borbon-and-wife-letizia-ortiz-pose-for-a-picture-picture-id51078436

    Supposedly Felipe is 6′-6″ but he looks more than 2″ taller than Fox so someone is lying.

    Just as with Che, the beard darkens Felipe’s appearance. When you see him as a clean cut young man he is obviously quite fair:

  332. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/JamesHeartfield/status/907752206627213312

    Thanks.

  333. @Anonymous
    Do you know what role might Einstein's ideas may have played in the ongoing march toward multiculturalism and open borders? According to a write-up on him on the American Museum of Natural History website:

    Einstein's passionate commitment to the cause of global peace led him to support the creation of a single, unified world government. Einstein thought that patriotic zeal often became an excuse for violence: "As a citizen of Germany," he wrote in 1947, "I saw how excessive nationalism can spread like a disease, bringing tragedy to millions." To combat this "disease," Einstein wanted to eliminate nationalistic sentiments—first by erasing the political borders between countries and then by instituting an international government with sovereignty over individual states. During World War I, Einstein supported the formation of the "United States of Europe." He later endorsed the League of Nations and its successor, the United Nations. But Einstein worried that the United Nations did not have enough authority to ensure world peace.

    Einstein himself seemed to have little regard for national boundaries. His true allegiance was simply to the human race: "I am by heritage a Jew, by citizenship a Swiss, and by makeup a human being, and only a human being, without any special attachment to any state or national entity whatsoever."

    Einstein considered himself a citizen of the world. He lived in several European countries before moving to the United States, and he also traveled extensively, visiting countries including Palestine, Argentina, Brazil, and Uruguay. In 1922, Einstein and his wife Elsa boarded the S.S. Kitano Maru bound for Japan. The trip also took them to other ports including Singapore, Hong Kong, and Shanghai.

    What's somewhat interesting about this view he had of himself is that it fits so neatly with the stereotype - for good or for bad - of the rootless, cosmopolitan Jew. However, this bouncing around from countr to country is not the typical experience for most people. Did he not realize that what was good for him would be seen as a negative by most people?

    Einstein moved to the United States in 1933, after fleeing Nazi Germany. At the time he commented, "As long as I have any choice in the matter, I will live only in a country where civil liberty, tolerance, and equality of all citizens before the law are the rule." He became an American citizen seven years later.

    Einstein saw world government as the only way to ensure lasting world peace. But he was skeptical that an organization like the United Nations—which answered to the national governments of its member states—could prevent future wars. In Einstein's view, world peace would be guaranteed only when the leaders of individual nations answered to a single, supranational government.

    Is multiculturalism and open borders being done with the goal of world peace?

    See, this goes along with what I’ve seen a lot, otherwise intelligent people on the web that are just completely ignorant in other areas. OTOH, physicists (and mathematicians, for that matter) are known as men who don’t particularly have a lot of common sense due to lack of experience in the actual world. I’ve got quite a few examples in my head.

    I will live only in a country where civil liberty, tolerance, and equality of all citizens before the law are the rule.” He became an American citizen seven years later.

    I’d think a bit of nationalism would be a pretty good thing once one found himself in a country that does have civil liberty, tolerance, and equality, at least based on his opinion of those principles. I mean, what are you gonna do if the country goes under, and there is no place left with what you valued in this society? Huh, nice work Einstein.

    In Einstein’s view, world peace would be guaranteed only when the leaders of individual nations answered to a single, supranational government.

    Ever heard of a civil war, or read the book 1984? Who’s gonna help bring down the regime when you have totalitarianism in the only sovereign in the world? Martians? Think again, (LITERALLY) Einstein!

    Man, we’re going to have to change a few expressions, the more we learn about these “geniuses” and “holy men”. “Nice going, Einstein!” will now be “Nice going, Newton!” and “Is the Pope Catholic?” will now be “Is the Pope a Latino Commie?”

  334. Language matters. Words matter.

    The word/brand “White” has been tarnished whether you agree with the tarnish or not. Better to abandon it.

    The descriptor “European” has a good brand. I think “European” and I think cathedrals, French wine, cobbled streets, Bach and Beethoven.

    Stop using “White” as a descriptor for European-descended people in America. Use “Euro-American.” Far better branding that robs the left of their pejorative.

    Example: “Whites voted for Donald Trump” sounds racist in the Current Year. “Euro-Americans voted for Donald Trump” sounds sophisticated.

    • Replies: @Moses
    As a bonus, another example:

    "Fellow White people, we must stop being racist."

    vs.

    "Fellow European-Americans, we must stop being racist."

    Which one sounds more hollow and better reveals the pretender?
    , @Anonymous
    "Euro" sounds kind of loopy. In addition, it forms the pejorative "Euro-trash."

    What about "European-American"?
  335. @peterike

    If you consider the millions upon millions of dead as a result of the two 20th century world wars, you might wonder if nationalism really “worked” for the average European either.

     

    If you think those wars were driven by "nationalism" then you really don't know much about it.

    Hitler called his movement “National Socialism” so you might forgive me for imagining that nationalism and socialism had something to do with his ideology.

    You can play “no true Scotsman” and pretend that the “false” nationalism of Wilhelm and Hitler have nothing to do with the good, pure kind of nationalism that never starts wars, but you would just be playing word games.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    Is there a social identity that doesn't start wars?
  336. @Tiny Duck
    Because whites have unearned privileges that are greater than their contributions

    Leonard Pitts and verysmartbrothas have written extensively on how white men continue to murder People of Color. Complaining about "anti white" stuff contributes to white supremacy. You guys are traitors tearforists and fake Americans. America is about freedom justice and the fight against racism

    You people need to get out. America does not want or need you

    As any Person of Color will tell you white men take credit for inventing things they stole from People of Color

    Also white wonen are increasingly bearing Children of Color. I cannot wait for just stick to be served

    Tiny dat be excellent sentence structure. Leonard approves.

    – Leonard Pitts

  337. @Moses
    Language matters. Words matter.

    The word/brand "White" has been tarnished whether you agree with the tarnish or not. Better to abandon it.

    The descriptor "European" has a good brand. I think "European" and I think cathedrals, French wine, cobbled streets, Bach and Beethoven.

    Stop using "White" as a descriptor for European-descended people in America. Use "Euro-American." Far better branding that robs the left of their pejorative.

    Example: "Whites voted for Donald Trump" sounds racist in the Current Year. "Euro-Americans voted for Donald Trump" sounds sophisticated.

    As a bonus, another example:

    “Fellow White people, we must stop being racist.”

    vs.

    “Fellow European-Americans, we must stop being racist.”

    Which one sounds more hollow and better reveals the pretender?

  338. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/JamesHeartfield/status/907752206627213312

    That is a bizarre and twisted reading of Orwell but she is not alone (except in her unique ham-fistedness). Apparently there has been an uptick in sales of 1984 because Leftist democrats somehow see Trump as Big Brother. Of course they don’t recognize their own tactics as Orwellian in the least – what are you talking about? But only Hillary could take it a step further and say that the lesson of 1984 is that you should rely more on trusted authority figures. Gore and Kerry were also pretty clueless and out of touch but Hillary is really a special kind of stupid and tone deaf.

  339. @Moses
    Language matters. Words matter.

    The word/brand "White" has been tarnished whether you agree with the tarnish or not. Better to abandon it.

    The descriptor "European" has a good brand. I think "European" and I think cathedrals, French wine, cobbled streets, Bach and Beethoven.

    Stop using "White" as a descriptor for European-descended people in America. Use "Euro-American." Far better branding that robs the left of their pejorative.

    Example: "Whites voted for Donald Trump" sounds racist in the Current Year. "Euro-Americans voted for Donald Trump" sounds sophisticated.

    “Euro” sounds kind of loopy. In addition, it forms the pejorative “Euro-trash.”

    What about “European-American”?

  340. @Jack D
    Hitler called his movement "National Socialism" so you might forgive me for imagining that nationalism and socialism had something to do with his ideology.

    You can play "no true Scotsman" and pretend that the "false" nationalism of Wilhelm and Hitler have nothing to do with the good, pure kind of nationalism that never starts wars, but you would just be playing word games.

    Is there a social identity that doesn’t start wars?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Uh, pacifist? I'm just guessing here.
  341. @JimB
    White became an insult sometime after Obama was elected. Somehow, nobody managed to question the clown parade of incompetent blacks and Hispanics whom he appointed to top cabinet level positions, despite the deep field of white talent, because -- hey -- white people are evil oppressors. Obama even fired the legendary Russia scholar Dr James Billington, who had been Librian of Congress since being appointed by Reagan, then replaced him with an actual black lady librarian from Chicago.

    Yes, indeed: welcome to our dumb America.

    Well the job is called librarian so who better to get than an actual librarian? Amirite?

    • Replies: @JimB
    "Well the job is called librarian so who better to get than an actual librarian? Amirite?"

    Only if you think the Chief Justice should be an Indian tribal elder and the Secretary of State should take dictation.

  342. @Jack D
    If you consider the millions upon millions of dead as a result of the two 20th century world wars, you might wonder if nationalism really "worked" for the average European either.

    Hitler respected national borders?

    • Replies: @guest
    Well, some of them. Or maybe he just didn't get around to violating all of 'em.
    , @Opinionator
    Any less so than Britain, France, China, and the Soviet Union?
  343. “American, Descendants, Gravity, Tomorrowland. ”

    George Clooney wasn’t even the main star of Gravity. The rest of those movies have had almost no cultural impact. Had forgotten most of them myself.

  344. @Dmitry134564
    In Russia today, national minorities generally have priorities over the national majority, everything is suppressed by happy national media, much of government work is mediating between interests of differing oligarch demands, and the industries they run, and certain difficult future situations (such as a massively growing Muslim demographics, or even a certain Muslim (ex-Jihadist) prince of a certain federal subject extorting huge federal wealth transfers, is brushed under the carpet). Not sure if it's a good role model for the United States. If anything, Russia, like Brazil, is one of the few countries which makes the US look functional by comparison.

    Putin’s relationship with Ramzan Kadyrov is kind of like if Trump appointed Lil Wayne the King of the Blacks and gave him a billion dollars per year to live the African American Dream.

    Note, I’m not saying that would be a bad thing …

    • Replies: @Dmitry134564
    It's a funny way to put it.

    But America is some decades away from reaching such a level of dysfunction, and the level of cynicism required to properly manage such a country - wholesome Americans, let alone those from such pampered backgrounds as Trump, can not conceive.

    , @Brutusale
    No, the American Way is to enrich a steady stream of Rev. Bacons.
  345. @Chase
    For the United States to produce a Putin, we will have to go through extreme turmoil, similar to Russia in the 90's. I wouldn't bet against it at some point, but not before much pain and death.

    It’s coming….

  346. @Olorin

    I think all this naked hatred against whites is a big mistake for blacks.
     
    Exactly correct.

    And who do you think taught them to act like this starting in the 1960s?

    And what do you think their motives were?

    If blacks ever wake up to how they have been used, and how badly, in the name of "civil" "rights," there is going to be a reckoning...and suddenly the cry is going to be, "Help us, white man! Call the police/National Guard/Army/Navy/Coast Guard to save us!"

    Or so I'm told by conservative Jews of my acquaintance.

    We know that the only people to ever drop an atomic device were white people.
     
    You mean the guys who flew Enola Gay? No doubt. Most pilots and plane crews in the 1940s US were.

    What about the people who created the device/processes leading up to it in the Manhattan (ahem) Project?

    What about J. Robert Oppenheimer, Frank Oppenheimer, Albert Einstein, Neils Bohr, Leo Szilard, Nicholas Kurti, David Bohm, Rudolf Peierls, Felix Bloch, Paul Wigner, James Chadwick, James Franck, Otto Frisch, Edward Teller, Hans Bethe, Klaus Fuchs, Dick Feynmann, Louis Slotin, Louis Rosen, Morris Kolodney, Ted Hall, Samuel Cohen, Jacob Beser, Samuel Goldsmit, George Placzek, Eugene Rabinowich, Gregory Breit, David Greenglass, Victor Weisskopf, Alvin Weinberg, Isidor Rabi, Joseph Rotblat, George Koval, Stan Frankel, Franz Simon, and David Lilienthal?

    Were they "white people"?

    Were they "white people" when they worked for Hitler?

    Were they "white people" when they spied for Stalin?

    They worked against Hitler, for the obvious reason. Then they formed the foundation of a physics and mathematics cognoscenti that gave the US a key technical edge over Stalin after the war. They were the most productive group of immigrants this country has ever had.

    I’m pretty sure a lot of the soldiers who didn’t die invading Japan or fighting the Soviets conventionally were white.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    Your contention - a common one - that european Jews were instrumental and indispensible in the creation of the Atomic bomb just isn't true. A stronger case can be made that Nazis (in the form of Werner von Braun and his team) were instrumental and indispensible in the creation of the Moon rocket. And that isn't true either.
  347. @Mr. Anon

    Keep trying and maybe you will make it to the RT payroll!
     
    Did you read what Jack D wrote? "For every kopeck that the average Russian sees, Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies."

    Putin has a billion times more money than the average Russian? That would make him - what? A Trillionaire? A Quadrillionaire? That pretty much does sound like nonsense, as Mr. Karlin said. Perhaps Jack D mis-stated the order of magnitude - he probably did - he's a smart guy - I don't think he'd be off that much. The number I have heard is that Putin is worth somewhere around the order of 10 billion dollars or there abouts (give or take a factor of 2 or 5 either way) - all down to his tireless work on behalf of the Russian people, no doubt.

    Corrupt as Putin is - and even the Clintons are nowhere near as rapacious as he is - his truly epic corruption bothers me less than that of our own public officials. He doesn't govern our country (despite what CNN might believe) - our officials do.

    $10 billion is way, way low. In just the Sochi Olympics alone they think that $30 billion was diverted to Putin and his inner circle.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-olympics-sochi-corruption/billions-stolen-in-sochi-olympics-preparations-russian-opposition-idUSBRE94T0RU20130530

    Some have said $40 billion

    http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/

    but if you are the Czar of all the Russias then in effect EVERYTHING is yours. There is no one in Russia who can say no to Putin – if he wants something, it is his.

    We will never really know the extent of Putin’s wealth until he is overthrown. The Ukrainian public had no hint of how many billions Yanukovich stole until he was ousted and Yanukovich was just a small timer compared to Putin. As I said before, if Putin has not stolen AT LEAST 10 times as much as Yanukovich he should be ashamed of himself – no self-respecting kleptocrat should allow himself to be outdone by such a third rater.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    $10 billion is way, way low. In just the Sochi Olympics alone they think that $30 billion was diverted to Putin and his inner circle.
     
    It's impossible to assess the reliability of that estimate without knowing who "they" are.

    Some have said $40 billion
     
    I said order of magnitude. That's why I hedged some with a factor of up to 5. I.e. anywhere from $2 billion to $50 billion. That probably covers the range.

    I'm not quite sure why the "russia is our enemy" crowd is so particularly put out by Putin's kleptocracy. Perhaps they think: who does this Putin guy think he is, anyway? Why he didn't even have any help from the Harvard Economics Department.

  348. @inertial

    Putin views the world as a zero sum game
     
    .

    Actually, he is one of the last people in Russia who doesn't. Even to this day, he keeps extending a hand to America. Invariably, he gets a kick in the teeth. He grumbles a bit, or, more often, says nothing, and does the same thing again. His oft repeated catchphrase "our American partners" has become a running joke in Russia. He would love nothing better than to become a genuine partner.

    One day we will get a Russian leader that really does believe that the world is zero sum game. Then God help us.

    He’s a saint, I tell you, a saint! A long suffering saint put upon by the Americans again and again. I weep for Vladimir Vladimirovich, I really do.

    • Replies: @inertial
    Saint? No. Putin is of the generation of men who launched perestroika so that they could "join the civilized world" and get a seat at the table. This is still his dream.

    Incidentally, aren't you the one claiming the Putin had stolen hundred million billion dollars, which he presumably keeps in the West? If this is the case, wouldn't he want to enjoy his fortune? And if he does, wouldn't he be as non-confrontational as possible? In fact, many in Russia claim exactly that: Putin is so timid with the West because they have him by the balls.
  349. @Opinionator
    Is there a social identity that doesn't start wars?

    Uh, pacifist? I’m just guessing here.

    • Replies: @Opinionator
    By "social," I meant "group."

    All the same, in practice do we find many true pacifists?
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    Is that what you're signing up for, to become a pacifistic citizen of the world a la Einstein? Where does this land exist in the real world? Actually that's one of Antifa's goals, to do away with borders, nationalism (cause it's so obviously bad and racist too). Yep, Antifa's violently peaceful; all they want is to defeat racism, ethno-nationalism am deathly then there will be peace.
  350. @Cagey Beast
    White women consider White men their men and the global village to be their village.

    We all naturally think at the social scale of the village but this is doubly true for women. White women don't really care what the Arab, African or Chinese families in the global village do; they care about policing, shaming and (hopefully) uplifting their own children and men. Saudis and Chinese can publicly execute prisoners 'till the cows come home and White ladies will barely wrinkle their little noses but if "that man!" Putin takes his shirt off while fishing then their whole day is ruined. Putin is sort of the brother-in-law of Hillary's cousin in the global village and so it's her job to shame and police him. "I don't care what the Arabs do! In this family we're nice to gays!".

    This White lady world-view is fine and dandy at the level of the literal village but will be the death of us at the level of the mythical global village. Hillary Clinton, Madeline Albright and Samantha Power are the bossy Lady Bountifuls from the manor going around town shaming "their" men and uplifting the poor. Long story short, this is why we need to keep our ladies out of high level politics until they have the friend and enemy distinctions made perfectly clear to them.

    This White lady world-view is fine and dandy at the level of the literal village but will be the death of us at the level of the mythical global village. Hillary Clinton, Madeline Albright and Samantha Power are the bossy Lady Bountifuls from the manor going around town shaming “their” men and uplifting the poor.

    This is a thing, but I don’t think it’s the main thing.

    #1, i’d say, is just that women’s core instinct is “nurture”. And this is a fine–in fact critical–personal instinct–nurturing your own kids–and even scales out to the village–volunteer in the schools–but is a poor overall political instinct.

    Welfare mom having another kid–we can’t let that baby starve!

    Dead kid on the beach–oh, must let in the refugees!

    Refugees drowning at sea–must rescue those poor desperate refugees.

    Dead kids in Aleppo–must take Syrian refugees! or–the Hillary, busier body version–must shoot down their airplanes, including Russians if necessary!

    Illegal alien kids–can’t send those poor innocents back!

    Mentally ill young homo thinks he’s a girl–don’t be a meany, she should be allowed in the girls locker room!

    Someone, somewhere said something disparaging about someone–bad, bad person! they shouldn’t be allowed to speak!

    Again there’s nothing wrong wit a nurturing instinct. We benefit greatly that women have it. But most political questions are not fundamentally about “nurture” they are “protection of nation”, “protection of civilization”, “justice”, “rule of law”, “getting the incentives right” and properly guided by reason not emotion.

    • Replies: @guest
    Women's core instinct is gimme, gimme, gimme.

    Which isn't very different from men's, which adds gotta get me summa dat.

    I'm not a sociobiologist, so I won't deny people can have instincts other than purely selfish. But they're not at the core. Except for offspring sometimes, not all the time.
    , @The Last Real Calvinist

    #1, i’d say, is just that women’s core instinct is “nurture”. And this is a fine–in fact critical–personal instinct–nurturing your own kids–and even scales out to the village–volunteer in the schools–but is a poor overall political instinct.

     

    Yes. 'Nurturing' metastasizes into 'saving' -- i.e. a prideful, even megalomaniacal, belief that 'good people' can redeem our fallen world and build a utopia -- when it's not kept within its God-given boundaries.
  351. @Tiny Duck
    More evil from white people

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/authorities-gold-miners-at-a-bar-bragged-about-slaughtering-members-of-a-reclusive-brazilian-tribe/ar-AArJeAo?OCID=ansmsnnews11

    The word for the day is”bigamy”.

    Let’s use that in a sentence.

    “I gave my wife $20…..dat was bigamy.”

    – Leonard Pitts

    • LOL: Jim Don Bob
  352. @Currahee
    Hitler respected national borders?

    Well, some of them. Or maybe he just didn’t get around to violating all of ’em.

  353. @AnotherDad

    This White lady world-view is fine and dandy at the level of the literal village but will be the death of us at the level of the mythical global village. Hillary Clinton, Madeline Albright and Samantha Power are the bossy Lady Bountifuls from the manor going around town shaming “their” men and uplifting the poor.
     
    This is a thing, but I don't think it's the main thing.

    #1, i'd say, is just that women's core instinct is "nurture". And this is a fine--in fact critical--personal instinct--nurturing your own kids--and even scales out to the village--volunteer in the schools--but is a poor overall political instinct.

    Welfare mom having another kid--we can't let that baby starve!

    Dead kid on the beach--oh, must let in the refugees!

    Refugees drowning at sea--must rescue those poor desperate refugees.

    Dead kids in Aleppo--must take Syrian refugees! or--the Hillary, busier body version--must shoot down their airplanes, including Russians if necessary!

    Illegal alien kids--can't send those poor innocents back!

    Mentally ill young homo thinks he's a girl--don't be a meany, she should be allowed in the girls locker room!

    Someone, somewhere said something disparaging about someone--bad, bad person! they shouldn't be allowed to speak!


    Again there's nothing wrong wit a nurturing instinct. We benefit greatly that women have it. But most political questions are not fundamentally about "nurture" they are "protection of nation", "protection of civilization", "justice", "rule of law", "getting the incentives right" and properly guided by reason not emotion.

    Women’s core instinct is gimme, gimme, gimme.

    Which isn’t very different from men’s, which adds gotta get me summa dat.

    I’m not a sociobiologist, so I won’t deny people can have instincts other than purely selfish. But they’re not at the core. Except for offspring sometimes, not all the time.

  354. Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    How long do we have to wait to get a comment posted? Meanwhile every five minutes there are more comments from Jack D.

    • Replies: @oddsbodkins
    I don't think Jack D. Got much done today.
  355. @Autochthon
    The man is a Russian in Russia. How do you reckon you know better than he does? (This question is sincere.)

    Its Lot. He’s a savant on every subject under the sun. Much like Art Deco but slightly less autistic.

  356. @Jack D
    After Yanukovych was overthrown in Ukraine we got some inkling of the billions that he stole and Ukraine's economy is not even 1/10th the size of Russia's so Putin has surely stolen at least 10x as much as Yanukovych or he should be ashamed of himself.

    Ah boy I love when your argument by assertion nonsense runs a hundred miles an hour into an argument of facts.

  357. @anonymous

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
     
    How long do we have to wait to get a comment posted? Meanwhile every five minutes there are more comments from Jack D.

    I don’t think Jack D. Got much done today.

  358. @Jack D

    I believe they thought that applied to us too.
     
    They were right in the European theater - the American bomb came too late to affect the war in Europe. Although I am not sure that Berlin and Hamburg would have looked that much worse if they had been nuked instead of relentlessly bombed.

    It's true that the Germans chose to concentrate their efforts on the ballistic missile rather than the nuclear warhead and that their resources were not unlimited, but still I think that the exodus of Jewish scientists and the ill repute of "Jewish physics" had more of an impact than you admit. By the end of the war, the Germans had made surprisingly little progress, even on the theoretical front. Out of 26 German nuclear physicists cited in the literature before 1933, 50% emigrated. The ones that stayed - Diebner, Esau, Gerlach, Schumann, etc. - were not exactly the #1 names in 20th century nuclear physics - they were definitely the "B" team. Deutsche Physik hacks were given undue promotions and Heisenberg only survived because his ma was friends with Himmler's ma.

    This wiki is I think a fair treatment and points to the exodus of scientific talent as an important if not the only factor:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nuclear_weapon_project

    It might have been that they wouldn't have achieved nuclear weapons anyway, but losing their best scientists sure didn't help. Many of the guys that they lost ended up being key players in the American effort so it was a double hit.

    By the end of the war, the Germans had made surprisingly little progress, even on the theoretical front.

    Germans discovered nuclear fission in 1938.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Otto Frisch and Lise Meitner are "Germans" now? At the time they were not considered as such.

    Frisch and Peierls (another "German") wrote the first memorandum that laid out a practical proposal for how to construct an atom bomb. Unfortunately for the Reich, by they time they wrote the memo they were living in Britain and wrote it for the British and Americans.

    Here it is, BTW:

    https://web.stanford.edu/class/history5n/FPmemo.pdf

    They were wrong is some respects (they underestimated the amount of uranium you would need for a critical mass but previous estimates had been on the order of tons, which was way too high) but they got a lot right considering that such weapons did not exist at that time.
  359. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    Whatever improvement the Russian people have seen was mostly as a result of high oil prices and now that oil prices are back down these improvements are likely to fade. For every kopeck that the average Russian sees, Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies. BTW, the Russian standard of living did improve under the Communists (except at the very end when things started to fall apart). By world historical standards (and Putin standards) the Communists stole remarkably little for themselves because they really believed that stuff at the beginning. Mostly they just wasted it on the military and in inefficiency but they didn't actually steal much for themselves personally.

    )the Communists stole remarkably little for themselves because they really believed that stuff at the beginning.

    At the beginning? At the beginning the communists were at their bloodiest. As for stealing, what do you call the great land from the kulaks? The communists ended up with the blood of millions on their hands in their efforts to collectivize, i.e. steal, the land.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    There is a difference between stealing for yourself and stealing "for the people". Every time you pay taxes the government is stealing "for the people" and we tolerate it. If the Communists had taken the land and built themselves 20 palaces like Putin has, that would be stealing for themselves. Stalin had dachas but they were like hovels compared to Putin's bejeweled Czarist fantasy palaces. Mainly they reflected Stalin's paranoia - no carpets so he could hear his enemies sneaking up on him, many different rooms so he could stay in a different room every night, etc.
  360. I would say White became a pejorative long before Foreigner. And the 1979 Album “Head Games” featuring the song “Dirty White Boy.”

    My guess, and it is only a guess, is that in the 1960s there was a decisive shift in what the media, young women (the taste formers and arbiters of fashion), and the leadership class figured was the “correct” and Master Race, and which was the “incorrect” and Deplorable Race. That essentially, Blacks and Whites were switched. Partially to Norman Mailer, partially to Malcolm X, but a lot due to Mohammed Ali and televised football games where the athletic superiority of Black athletes to White ones [at the time] was obvious. Ali was by far the greater boxer than any White challenger (he would have been toast no doubt against any of the modern Eastern European heavyweights) and the Black players in College and the NFL far better than the White players: faster, stronger, quicker, and able to leap higher.

    [Of course, the game has changed and slower White players with superb body control and catching ability and often the ability to catch balls while shrugging off defenders with sheer strength has made a minor comeback. But that was then.]

    The other thing of course is that by the 1960s it was clear that mass WWII style infantry/naval/air battles and campaigns like Normandy, the Philippines, Okinawa, and Korea were a thing of the past and superseded in national survival by atomic weapons.

    Nukes made the White Man irrelevant — no longer did Citizen Soldiers matter rather a tiny few technical people and ICBMs. Since the elites no longer need us for defense of their ill gotten gains, we became disposable and “Dirty White Boys.”

  361. @Currahee
    Hitler respected national borders?

    Any less so than Britain, France, China, and the Soviet Union?

  362. @Anonymous
    Given what happened actually that is an achievement. He has a long way to go and he knows it, but he's making progress. Only a really intelligent, ruthless, and inner-directed leader would get even that much.

    I thought the soviet union was supposed to be really terrible and inefficient. Surely improving on such a horrible government would be easy? The standard right wing knee jerk reactions are in conflict with one another.

  363. “How long do we have to wait to get a comment posted?”

    I’m guessing that anonymous posts have to be specifically moderated.

  364. In case the comment got the embed munched, here is Foreigner singing “Dirty White Boy”

    Even back then …

  365. anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    I honestly don't understand why the Western right keeps falling for these guys (their last love affair was with Hitler - that didn't turn out well either). Yes, they hate the decadent West and you hate the decadent West, but that doesn't mean that they are your friends.

    First of all, Putin is from a place that is outside of all Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality or freedom or fair play. Americans , no matter how rightist, would never allow themselves to be ruled by a Putin.

    2nd, Putin himself doesn't give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy. Putin sees the world as a series of concentric loyalties - his #1 loyalty is to himself and his family, then to his inner circle, then to the Russian people and YOU are way,way outside the circle of trust.

    First of all, Putin is from a place that is outside of all Anglo-Saxon ideas of morality or freedom or fair play.

    You could say that about every nation not named the UK, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

    2nd, Putin himself doesn’t give a rats ass for you, in fact regards you (along with almost everyone else) as his enemy. Putin sees the world as a series of concentric loyalties

    You could say this about every nation that is not in North America or Western Europe.

  366. @Anatoly Karlin
    Actually considerably above them (currently 72.5 years; peak Soviet level was 69.9 years, in 1987).

    You say 72.5, the WHO says 70.5, and below Bolivia, North Korea, Moldova, Libya, Venezuela. Russian life expectancy is considerably below places as Hondurus, Tunisia, Iran, and Jamaica. Maybe if Putin could get Russians to switch from pathological levels of vodka to ganja, Russia might aspire to some day rise up to Jamaican levels.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Vodka would be an improvement. Apparently 20% of Russian alcohol consumption consists of untaxed "surrogate" alcohol such as bath lotion which is cheaper than real vodka. On a good day this stuff is mostly ethanol but on a bad day it is methanol and the drinkers die a horrible death.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Irkutsk_mass_methanol_poisoning
    , @IBC
    It'd be interesting to know what percentage of the Russian elite are regular tobacco smokers. I haven't seen any pictures of Putin or Medvedev lighting up, but it seems like it's still very popular among ordinary Russians (and Eastern Europeans in general). I know that a few years ago, Putin signed a law banning smoking in public; so depending on perspective, that's either a prudent public health decision or another sign of creeping authoritarianism. And since the British tabloid The Sun, reports that "Putin hates fags," maybe the answer is both.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2578222/vladimir-putin-russia-smoking-ban-plan-born-after-2015-cigarettes/
    , @Anatoly Karlin
    What the WHO says is irrelevant because it gets all its data from national statistics services. It is basically Russian figures with a lag time.

    That is in fact exactly what has been happening (minus the ganja); vodka consumption has been dropping since the mid-2000s, thanks in significant part to government policy including rising excise taxes, and vodka consumption has been falling/getting substituted by beer ever since.

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/russia-mortality-alcohol-murder-suicide-1990-2016.png
  367. @Anon
    "They’re not used to the idea that this country is fragmenting into masses that no longer assimilate and that-old fashioned coalition building no longer works on a national level."

    Not quite.

    Among non-white minorities, only two are problematic. Blacks and 'Hispanics'. Blacks are prone to violence, volume, and bad behavior. Mexicans(bulk of 'Hispanics') are not problematic per se, but there are now TOO MANY of them. This would not be a problem if Mexico was far away like Pakistan. But it has long border with the US.

    As for other non-white minorities, they could easily assimilate IF there was a solid, confident, and insistent majority and proud narrative. Back in 75 when I was living in a housing project filled with diversity, 'American' was synonymous with White, and no one was bothered by it or offended by it.

    It became a problem because of the rise of PC that instilled minority kids and then non-white intellectuals around the world with anti-white ideology. White Leftists injected anti-white-ness into these kids. Look at Canada. White teachers and professors fill non-white kids with anti-white hate. It's like a drug to white 'leftists' to feel so good about themselves as virtuous good whites dumping on bad whites and embracing 'diversity'.

    In many cases, you will find the immigrant parents of these kids are far less anti-white or not anti-white at all. It's their kids who pick it up from pop culture and PC.
    Also, multi-culturalism doesn't create separate identities in the US with the possible exception of Mexicans who have a historic claim to SW areas and are the solid majority in many parts of SW.
    For most non-black minorities, multi-culturalism just means bitching about whites. It's more about anti-white than pro-anything. After all, they willfully chose to leave their own nations, cultures, and peoples to come and live in a foreign land, the US. So, multi-culturalism puts them in a limbo. They don't want to be part of the old world and its heritage , which they eagerly left. Many cannot speak their own language or even know any history. Their entire worldview is pop culture and PC. But multi-culturalism tells them not to join with White. So, they are stuck in a limbo state. That is why these limbo-kids attach themselves to homo culture or black stuff(BLMx100 to enter Stanford, Seoul Brother, etc).

    Back in 75, before all this multi-cultural PC stuff, most non-whites just wanted to part of what they understood to be White America.

    Now, how did things turn out this way? Well, there is the factor of White Leftism. But there is also the problematic white minority, the Jewish Community that is paranoid about whiteness and Christianity and have been using 'white guilt' to tame and manipulate whites. For 'white guilt' to be activated, whites must be impugned as the oppressor vis-a-vis just about any minority group.

    As for other non-white minorities, they could easily assimilate IF there was a solid, confident, and insistent majority and proud narrative….

    …It became a problem because of the rise of PC that instilled minority kids and then non-white intellectuals around the world with anti-white ideology….

    …Back in 75, before all this multi-cultural PC stuff, most non-whites just wanted to part of what they understood to be White America.

    Now, how did things turn out this way? Well, there is the factor of White Leftism. But there is also the problematic white minority, the Jewish Community that is paranoid about whiteness and Christianity and have been using ‘white guilt’ to tame and manipulate whites….

    For a political group whose ideology is based on non-assimilation, it is advantageous to deflate assimilationist pressures in its host environment.

  368. @bob sykes
    Ironically, the future of the Democrat Party is Tom Perez and Keith Ellison. Whites like Clinton, Pelosi and Schumer have no future in that party other than as field honkies.

    Ironically, the future of the Democrat Party is Tom Perez and Keith Ellison. Whites like Clinton, Pelosi and Schumer have no future in that party other than as field honkies.

    Schumer? Seriously?

    The Democrat party is the Jews’ party. The blacks are a vote bank, paid off with some welfare, some racial mau-mauing and AA table scraps and comfy sinecures for some talented–and even very untalented–tenth black elites.

    Yeah, down the road a few generations, the Jews may well lose control of this thing, but it’s their show right now and that isn’t about to change anytime soon. The coalition of the fringes is going to be run by the fringe that both has the money and is actually smart enough to make the coalition work.

  369. @Jack D
    Uh, pacifist? I'm just guessing here.

    By “social,” I meant “group.”

    All the same, in practice do we find many true pacifists?

  370. @Tiny Duck
    More evil from white people

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/authorities-gold-miners-at-a-bar-bragged-about-slaughtering-members-of-a-reclusive-brazilian-tribe/ar-AArJeAo?OCID=ansmsnnews11

    Where do you get the idea that Brazilian gold miners are white?

    Or do you just blame white people’s endless appetite for gold?

    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/807903620625112582/

  371. @Autochthon
    The man is a Russian in Russia. How do you reckon you know better than he does? (This question is sincere.)

    For one thing, if he is a Russian in Russia, he lacks freedom of speech. We do not know what he thinks.

    Of course Putin has made billions. This isn’t even a secret. His close relatives do giant business deals.

  372. @Jack D
    He's a saint, I tell you, a saint! A long suffering saint put upon by the Americans again and again. I weep for Vladimir Vladimirovich, I really do.

    Saint? No. Putin is of the generation of men who launched perestroika so that they could “join the civilized world” and get a seat at the table. This is still his dream.

    Incidentally, aren’t you the one claiming the Putin had stolen hundred million billion dollars, which he presumably keeps in the West? If this is the case, wouldn’t he want to enjoy his fortune? And if he does, wouldn’t he be as non-confrontational as possible? In fact, many in Russia claim exactly that: Putin is so timid with the West because they have him by the balls.

  373. @Lot
    You say 72.5, the WHO says 70.5, and below Bolivia, North Korea, Moldova, Libya, Venezuela. Russian life expectancy is considerably below places as Hondurus, Tunisia, Iran, and Jamaica. Maybe if Putin could get Russians to switch from pathological levels of vodka to ganja, Russia might aspire to some day rise up to Jamaican levels.

    Vodka would be an improvement. Apparently 20% of Russian alcohol consumption consists of untaxed “surrogate” alcohol such as bath lotion which is cheaper than real vodka. On a good day this stuff is mostly ethanol but on a bad day it is methanol and the drinkers die a horrible death.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Irkutsk_mass_methanol_poisoning

    • Replies: @Anatoly Karlin
    This is a common viewpoint, but its wrong.

    When vodka is cheap, less people consume deadly stuff, but there's not that many of them to begin with; in contrast; almost everybody consumes considerably more vodka.

    When vodka is expensive, relatively more people consume the deadly stuff, but again there's not that many of them, and the big mortality increase accruing amongst that small pool of degenerates is more than counterbalanced by average vodka consumption going down.

    Mortality, especially mortality from alcohol poisoning (which is directly linked to the above), would not have been going sharply down since the mid-2000s if things were otherwise.
  374. @Jack D
    Uh, pacifist? I'm just guessing here.

    Is that what you’re signing up for, to become a pacifistic citizen of the world a la Einstein? Where does this land exist in the real world? Actually that’s one of Antifa’s goals, to do away with borders, nationalism (cause it’s so obviously bad and racist too). Yep, Antifa’s violently peaceful; all they want is to defeat racism, ethno-nationalism am deathly then there will be peace.

  375. Eppur Si Muove Momentum ?

    “What It’s Like to Be Smeared by the Southern Poverty Law Center”

    By Carol M. Swain
    Sept. 11, 2017

    “… I ended my post with a one-liner that raised the ire of the organization and had a devastating effect on my life.

    I wrote: “Rather than monitoring hate groups, the Southern Poverty Law Center has become one.”

    The SPLC’s retaliation was vicious and effective.

    On Oct. 17, 2009, my photo appeared on the front page of my local newspaper, the Tennessean, with the headline “ Carol Swain is an apologist for white supremacists.”

    That was a quote from Mark Potok, at the time the SPLC’s national spokesman.

    The context for Mr. Potok’s attack was a review I gave for a film titled “A Conversation About Race.”

    I endorsed it for classroom use because it offered a perspective on race rarely encountered on university campuses.

    Mr. Potok argued that the filmmaker was a bigot.

    I felt then and now that the perspective needed to be heard.

    This negative article was featured on the front pages of several newspapers and it went viral, especially in black media outlets.

    The attacks did not subside until this newspaper’s website published a lengthy article titled “In Defense of Carol Swain.”

    Being targeted by the SPLC has had a lasting impact on my life and career.

    Offers from other universities ended and speaking opportunities declined.

    Once you’ve been smeared in this way, mainstream news outlets are less likely to cite you as an expert of any kind.

    Yet today I wear the SPLC’s mud as a badge of honor because I know I am in the company of many good men and women who have been similarly vilified for standing for righteousness and truth.

    Other SPLC targets have included Ben Carson (who eventually received an apology and retraction), Somali refugee Ayaan Hirsi Ali, terrorism expert Steve Emerson, political scientist Guenter Lewy (who successfully sued the SPLC), attorney Robert Muise, Frank Gaffney of the Center for Security Policy, and Princeton professor Robert P. George.
    The SPLC has tagged Mr. George, a devout Catholic intellectual, as “anti-LGBT.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-its-like-to-be-smeared-by-the-southern-poverty-law-center-1505171221

  376. @Jack D
    Che's Irish (Lynch) ancestor may have been quite remote - there don't seem to be any good family trees around but it's possible that he was only a small % of Irish. Maybe his personality was "Irish" (rebellious) but his appearance was not. Even in his younger clean cut days he looks European but not distinctly Irish:

    http://www.hey-che.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/10620688_10203495607933806_4705905265320858186_n-227x222.jpg

    I was going to say that he looks like a cross between a young Reagan and Fred MacMurray, but a younger MacMurray is also a pretty good match:

    Fred MacMurray

    And later on, he started to look a little like George Clooney. Che Guevara’s looks and early death are a major reason why he’s become such an icon. By far, he’s the most marketable of Marxists.

  377. @Arclight
    Yeah - if the GOP was smart, they could continue to win the presidency just due to the erosion of white support for the Democrats alone. Even smarter would be to adopt the strategy Sailer has put forth of encouraging the perception of the Dems as a party primarily concerned with black Americans and force Hispanic voters to choose between that and the GOP as an alternative. You need a Rove or a Stone for that, and frankly the GOP doesn't really have a master political architect right now, but neither do the Dems.

    You need a Rove for what? For making the GOP the white party? Rove was an open borders, anti-Trump fanatic.

  378. @anonymous

    By the end of the war, the Germans had made surprisingly little progress, even on the theoretical front.
     
    Germans discovered nuclear fission in 1938.

    Otto Frisch and Lise Meitner are “Germans” now? At the time they were not considered as such.

    Frisch and Peierls (another “German”) wrote the first memorandum that laid out a practical proposal for how to construct an atom bomb. Unfortunately for the Reich, by they time they wrote the memo they were living in Britain and wrote it for the British and Americans.

    Here it is, BTW:

    https://web.stanford.edu/class/history5n/FPmemo.pdf

    They were wrong is some respects (they underestimated the amount of uranium you would need for a critical mass but previous estimates had been on the order of tons, which was way too high) but they got a lot right considering that such weapons did not exist at that time.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Otto Frisch and Lise Meitner are “Germans” now? At the time they were not considered as such.
     
    Obviously, he is referring to Hahn and Strassman, who nuclear discovered fission. They did discover it, in the usual sense of the word, even if they didn't know what it was. It was their work that led Fisch and Meitner to the correct interperetation of the experimental results.
  379. @anonymous

    )the Communists stole remarkably little for themselves because they really believed that stuff at the beginning.
     
    At the beginning? At the beginning the communists were at their bloodiest. As for stealing, what do you call the great land from the kulaks? The communists ended up with the blood of millions on their hands in their efforts to collectivize, i.e. steal, the land.

    There is a difference between stealing for yourself and stealing “for the people”. Every time you pay taxes the government is stealing “for the people” and we tolerate it. If the Communists had taken the land and built themselves 20 palaces like Putin has, that would be stealing for themselves. Stalin had dachas but they were like hovels compared to Putin’s bejeweled Czarist fantasy palaces. Mainly they reflected Stalin’s paranoia – no carpets so he could hear his enemies sneaking up on him, many different rooms so he could stay in a different room every night, etc.

    • Replies: @Alden
    Source for Putin's 20 palaces? Did he build them or just confisticate them from oligarch gangster?
    , @Mr. Anon

    There is a difference between stealing for yourself and stealing “for the people”.
     
    There is also a difference between stealing for yourself and killing "for the people". And the old communists did a lot more of the latter than Putin has, even if they did a lot less of the former. Maybe Russians nowadays don't mind their government officials stealing a lot, as long as they aren't trying to liquidate whole classes of people.
    , @IBC
    When Putin finally steps down, those 20 palaces will become presidential libraries. More time in office means more necessary space for filing cabinets, audio-visual exhibits, and for graceful mingling while holding a wine glass and nibbling cheese. (And of course, room enough to ride a horse through the open front door). Hmm-- room enough, "Romanov"...? Would that be some kind of Freudian slip of the hoof or am I just hearing things?
  380. @AnotherDad

    This White lady world-view is fine and dandy at the level of the literal village but will be the death of us at the level of the mythical global village. Hillary Clinton, Madeline Albright and Samantha Power are the bossy Lady Bountifuls from the manor going around town shaming “their” men and uplifting the poor.
     
    This is a thing, but I don't think it's the main thing.

    #1, i'd say, is just that women's core instinct is "nurture". And this is a fine--in fact critical--personal instinct--nurturing your own kids--and even scales out to the village--volunteer in the schools--but is a poor overall political instinct.

    Welfare mom having another kid--we can't let that baby starve!

    Dead kid on the beach--oh, must let in the refugees!

    Refugees drowning at sea--must rescue those poor desperate refugees.

    Dead kids in Aleppo--must take Syrian refugees! or--the Hillary, busier body version--must shoot down their airplanes, including Russians if necessary!

    Illegal alien kids--can't send those poor innocents back!

    Mentally ill young homo thinks he's a girl--don't be a meany, she should be allowed in the girls locker room!

    Someone, somewhere said something disparaging about someone--bad, bad person! they shouldn't be allowed to speak!


    Again there's nothing wrong wit a nurturing instinct. We benefit greatly that women have it. But most political questions are not fundamentally about "nurture" they are "protection of nation", "protection of civilization", "justice", "rule of law", "getting the incentives right" and properly guided by reason not emotion.

    #1, i’d say, is just that women’s core instinct is “nurture”. And this is a fine–in fact critical–personal instinct–nurturing your own kids–and even scales out to the village–volunteer in the schools–but is a poor overall political instinct.

    Yes. ‘Nurturing’ metastasizes into ‘saving’ — i.e. a prideful, even megalomaniacal, belief that ‘good people’ can redeem our fallen world and build a utopia — when it’s not kept within its God-given boundaries.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Yes, our nice white ladies now have Munchhausen-by-proxy for the whole world.
  381. @Anonymous

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/09/british-conductor-sacked-us-music-festival-joke-labelled-racist/

    British conductor sacked by US music festival after 'innocent' joke with his African-American friend was labelled racist

    Patrick Sawer
    9 SEPTEMBER 2017

    An acclaimed British conductor has been fired from a prestigious American music festival after a seemingly innocent joke he made to a black friend was labelled racist.

    Matthew Halls was removed as artistic director of the Oregon Bach Festival following an incident in which he imitated a southern American accent while talking to his longstanding friend, the African-American classical singer Reginald Mobley.

    It is understood a white woman who overheard the joke reported it to officials at the University of Oregon, which runs the festival, claiming it amounted to a racial slur.

    Shortly after Halls, who has worked with orchestras and opera houses across Europe and the US, was told by a university official his four year contract, which was to have run until 2020, was being terminated.

    Mobley, a countertenor who regularly performs in the UK, has now spoken out to defend his friend, saying there was nothing racist about the joke and describing the university’s apparent treatment of Halls as deeply unjust.

    “He has been victimised and I’m very upset about it,” he told The Sunday Telegraph. ”It was an innocent joke that has been entirely taken out of context.”

    The incident comes amid heightened sensitivity over race in the US, with renewed protest over police brutality, institutional racism and the re-emergence of white supremacists.

    It also coincides with the rise of what some have dubbed ‘the snowflake generation’ and the debate over whether the demand for ‘safe spaces’ on campus stifles debate and free speech or simply protects minorities from abuse and discrimination.

    But Mobley maintains that while racism should be challenged and ethnic groups made aware of each other’s sensitivities, his friend has been the victim of misunderstanding and overreaction.

    Halls and Mobley had been chatting at a reception held last month during this year’s Oregon Bach Festival, when the subject turned to a concert in London in which Mobley had performed.

    The singer, who was born and raised in the southern state of Florida, said the concert had an “antebellum” feel to it, of the sort associated with Gone With the Wind and other rose-tinted representations of the pre-Civil War south.

    In response Mobley says that Halls “apologised on behalf of England”, before putting on an exaggerated southern accent and joking: “Do you want some grits?”, in a reference to the ground corn dish popular in the south.

    “I’m from the deep south and Matthew often makes fun of the southern accent just as I often make fun of his British accent,” said Mobley. “Race was not an issue. He was imitating a southern accent, not putting on a black accent, and there was nothing racist or malicious about it.”

    But the singer suspects that a white woman who overheard their conversation and spoke to him moments later went on to report it to the university, alleging Halls had made a racist joke.

    An internal inquiry into the incident is understood to have been held as a result of the complaint.

    However, Mobley was not invited to give evidence and he says there is a deep irony in the fact the authorities appear to have assumed on his behalf that he would have objected to the joke.

    “I’m the subject of a falsified story, without having the chance to have my say,” he said. “My voice has been taken away in a conversation about race that involved me, and technically that’s racist.”

    Pressure on the festival organisers to reinstate Halls is growing, with from others musicians coming to his support.

    Meanwhile Mobley fears his friend’s career will suffer after being tarnished with the incendiary label of racism.

    “Matthew is obviously upset, and part of his anger would have to come from the fact he’s been accused of saying something so insensitive to a close friend,” said Mobley.

    The singer, who will perform in Purcell's King Arthur with the Academy of Ancient Music at London’s Barbican next month, says that while he appreciates the efforts of some white people to confront racism, he warns it can lead to wrong headed assumptions.

    “A lot of our allies have become so eager to help the race and fix the scars they almost go too far,” said Mobley. “They think they are at the point where they understand racism more than those who have really encountered it in their lives and they make assumptions on our behalf about how we might feel, as if we don’t understand when something said to us or done to use is racist.

    “It’s well meaning, but the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

    “It also demeans and cheapens the very serious work done by civil rights activists and abolitionists to have the difficult nuances of racism and microaggressions taken seriously.”

    Responding to the claims a spokesman for Oregon Bach Festival, said: “The University considers many factors when deciding whether to continue a contract. Regarding Reggie Mobley, it doesn’t appear he was involved in the University’s decision. Having said that, it would be inappropriate for the University to disclose details about a personnel matter.

    “While I anticipate that more information will be available soon, I’m afraid that’s all I can say on the matter right now.”

     

    Educated white women are a big part of the problem. Fortunately non-gelded white men now have an option: yellow women.

    I’ve never been in a confederate state but I really like grits. I don’t like polenta at all, but I really like grits. Some of the cooking shows feature low country S Carolina shrimp and grits and grits and cheese soufflé type things.

    If the cooking show hostesses are black is the grits recipes racist? If the hostess is White is it racist?

    Is it racist for a White woman to like grits?

    You all will be happy to know that the Los Angeles Public Library system recently upheld the right of homeless crazies to sit at the computers in the 3 to 6 pm reserved for students section and look at porn and rub themselves.

    It was hoped that the kids vs porn viewers could be solved by by creating a separate homework section of computers and tables reserved for kids 3 to 6.

    But some of the lesbian SJW librarians felt that all library patrons should have public access to porn at every computer at all times.

    Free speech for me but not for thee.
    The two friends should have said the snitch bitch was lying. They should have charged her with saying the N word. Or turning down a disgusting sex approach by an N word.

    In 50 years of fending off attacks by liberals I’ve learned to fight fire with fire. Whites are in our present loser position is because we fight honestly.

  382. @Jack D
    There is a difference between stealing for yourself and stealing "for the people". Every time you pay taxes the government is stealing "for the people" and we tolerate it. If the Communists had taken the land and built themselves 20 palaces like Putin has, that would be stealing for themselves. Stalin had dachas but they were like hovels compared to Putin's bejeweled Czarist fantasy palaces. Mainly they reflected Stalin's paranoia - no carpets so he could hear his enemies sneaking up on him, many different rooms so he could stay in a different room every night, etc.

    Source for Putin’s 20 palaces? Did he build them or just confisticate them from oligarch gangster?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2195035/Vladimir-Putins-presidential-perks-include-palaces-planes-yachts-white-gold-watches-47k-toilet.html


    He doesn't personally own all 20 but he owns this one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin%27s_Palace

    which is said to have cost at least $350 million, maybe more. Americans just can't conceive of the lifestyle of an Oriental despot. Trump comes close but he made his $ BEFORE he entered politics. Putin is supposed to have all this on a salary of less than $200,000/year.
  383. @Lot
    You say 72.5, the WHO says 70.5, and below Bolivia, North Korea, Moldova, Libya, Venezuela. Russian life expectancy is considerably below places as Hondurus, Tunisia, Iran, and Jamaica. Maybe if Putin could get Russians to switch from pathological levels of vodka to ganja, Russia might aspire to some day rise up to Jamaican levels.

    It’d be interesting to know what percentage of the Russian elite are regular tobacco smokers. I haven’t seen any pictures of Putin or Medvedev lighting up, but it seems like it’s still very popular among ordinary Russians (and Eastern Europeans in general). I know that a few years ago, Putin signed a law banning smoking in public; so depending on perspective, that’s either a prudent public health decision or another sign of creeping authoritarianism. And since the British tabloid The Sun, reports that “Putin hates fags,” maybe the answer is both.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2578222/vladimir-putin-russia-smoking-ban-plan-born-after-2015-cigarettes/

  384. @Tiny Duck
    And leave you free to plan and work your evil?

    no thanks

    Plus you have hogged all the resources and must be forced to give it back

    "letting you go" will not accomplish that

    And leave you free to plan and work your evil?

    no thanks

    Plus you have hogged all the resources and must be forced to give it back

    “letting you go” will not accomplish that

    So, you say you want us out of America, but you aren’t willing to let us go. It appears to be quite the dilemma.

    Tell us, what’s your final solution?

    • Replies: @Kylie
    "So, you say you want us out of America, but you aren’t willing to let us go. It appears to be quite the dilemma.

    Tell us, what’s your final solution?"

    I see what you did there.

    I wonder if whites stole Zyklon B from blacks?
  385. @Alden
    Source for Putin's 20 palaces? Did he build them or just confisticate them from oligarch gangster?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2195035/Vladimir-Putins-presidential-perks-include-palaces-planes-yachts-white-gold-watches-47k-toilet.html

    He doesn’t personally own all 20 but he owns this one:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin%27s_Palace

    which is said to have cost at least $350 million, maybe more. Americans just can’t conceive of the lifestyle of an Oriental despot. Trump comes close but he made his $ BEFORE he entered politics. Putin is supposed to have all this on a salary of less than $200,000/year.

  386. @Jack D
    $10 billion is way, way low. In just the Sochi Olympics alone they think that $30 billion was diverted to Putin and his inner circle.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-olympics-sochi-corruption/billions-stolen-in-sochi-olympics-preparations-russian-opposition-idUSBRE94T0RU20130530

    Some have said $40 billion

    http://time.com/money/4641093/vladimir-putin-net-worth/

    but if you are the Czar of all the Russias then in effect EVERYTHING is yours. There is no one in Russia who can say no to Putin - if he wants something, it is his.

    We will never really know the extent of Putin's wealth until he is overthrown. The Ukrainian public had no hint of how many billions Yanukovich stole until he was ousted and Yanukovich was just a small timer compared to Putin. As I said before, if Putin has not stolen AT LEAST 10 times as much as Yanukovich he should be ashamed of himself - no self-respecting kleptocrat should allow himself to be outdone by such a third rater.

    $10 billion is way, way low. In just the Sochi Olympics alone they think that $30 billion was diverted to Putin and his inner circle.

    It’s impossible to assess the reliability of that estimate without knowing who “they” are.

    Some have said $40 billion

    I said order of magnitude. That’s why I hedged some with a factor of up to 5. I.e. anywhere from $2 billion to $50 billion. That probably covers the range.

    I’m not quite sure why the “russia is our enemy” crowd is so particularly put out by Putin’s kleptocracy. Perhaps they think: who does this Putin guy think he is, anyway? Why he didn’t even have any help from the Harvard Economics Department.

  387. @Jack D
    There is a difference between stealing for yourself and stealing "for the people". Every time you pay taxes the government is stealing "for the people" and we tolerate it. If the Communists had taken the land and built themselves 20 palaces like Putin has, that would be stealing for themselves. Stalin had dachas but they were like hovels compared to Putin's bejeweled Czarist fantasy palaces. Mainly they reflected Stalin's paranoia - no carpets so he could hear his enemies sneaking up on him, many different rooms so he could stay in a different room every night, etc.

    There is a difference between stealing for yourself and stealing “for the people”.

    There is also a difference between stealing for yourself and killing “for the people”. And the old communists did a lot more of the latter than Putin has, even if they did a lot less of the former. Maybe Russians nowadays don’t mind their government officials stealing a lot, as long as they aren’t trying to liquidate whole classes of people.

  388. @Jack D
    See for example Hillary speaking in black dialect:

    https://youtu.be/6FlpbRFXC9E?t=14

    If Romney tried something like this it would be horrible, racist cultural appropriation and lightning bolts would descend from the heavens and strike him down for such a sin, but Hillary, as the spouse of an honorary black man can get away with this (although I am sure that it did not really endear her to black people - she is not really an endearing person, period). A lot of what white liberals do is not actually intended to appeal to blacks (who are loyal Democrat voters for so long as the food stamps flow) but to nice white liberal ladies who imagine that this is what blacks like.

    Romney was accused of tanning specifically to increase his appeal to Latino voters:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/20/mitt-romney-dyed-face-brown-fake-tan-univision_n_1900707.html

    Maybe Hillary was trying to pass herself off as some kind of white yokel from Arkansas instead of an authoritarian-sounding northern white feminist lawyer-type? If a traditional black American audience could be assured that a white person is not actually racist or putting on any kind of airs with them, they might otherwise be expected to make more of a personal connection with a white Southerner over a Northerner as happened with her husband, Bill.

  389. @Jack D
    Otto Frisch and Lise Meitner are "Germans" now? At the time they were not considered as such.

    Frisch and Peierls (another "German") wrote the first memorandum that laid out a practical proposal for how to construct an atom bomb. Unfortunately for the Reich, by they time they wrote the memo they were living in Britain and wrote it for the British and Americans.

    Here it is, BTW:

    https://web.stanford.edu/class/history5n/FPmemo.pdf

    They were wrong is some respects (they underestimated the amount of uranium you would need for a critical mass but previous estimates had been on the order of tons, which was way too high) but they got a lot right considering that such weapons did not exist at that time.

    Otto Frisch and Lise Meitner are “Germans” now? At the time they were not considered as such.

    Obviously, he is referring to Hahn and Strassman, who nuclear discovered fission. They did discover it, in the usual sense of the word, even if they didn’t know what it was. It was their work that led Fisch and Meitner to the correct interperetation of the experimental results.

  390. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    It’s true that the Germans chose to concentrate their efforts on the ballistic missile rather than the nuclear warhead and that their resources were not unlimited, but still I think that the exodus of Jewish scientists and the ill repute of “Jewish physics” had more of an impact than you admit.
     
    No. I've read a great deal about the subject. It wasn't the loss of talent. It was the (comparative) lack of resources.

    "By the end of the war, the Germans had made surprisingly little progress, even on the theoretical front."

    It wasn't a high priority. At best, they hoped to build a reactor. They weren't even trying to enrich Uranium.

    "Out of 26 German nuclear physicists cited in the literature before 1933, 50% emigrated. The ones that stayed – Diebner, Esau, Gerlach, Schumann, etc. – were not exactly the #1 names in 20th century nuclear physics – they were definitely the “B” team. Deutsche Physik hacks were given undue promotions and Heisenberg only survived because his ma was friends with Himmler’s ma."

    That is a mischaracterization of the actual history. Heisenberg was not saved because of his connections to Nazi higher-ups. He was one of the most prominent scientists in Germany at the time, second perhaps only to Planck. And the term "nuclear physicist" barely existed prior to 1933, so any kind of ranking based on that isn't that meaningful.

    "It might have been that they wouldn’t have achieved nuclear weapons anyway, but losing their best scientists sure didn’t help. Many of the guys that they lost ended up being key players in the American effort so it was a double hit."

    Germany did not lose "their best scientists". They lost some of the their best scientists. Most of the physicists who worked on the bomb in the U.S. were American, with an admixture of English and european ex-pats (like Fermi). There were also some german (or other european) Jews who worked on it, some of whom were quite important - Hans Bethe most prominently. Some german-jewish refugee physicists, like Otto Stern and Max Born, didn't work on military projects at all (as far as I can tell), let alone on the A-bomb.

    There were plenty of competent physicists left in Germany. And who knows, Germany might have pulled it off if they had had twice the population they did, greater natural resources and industrial plant, and didn't have to divert an enormous amount of their effort into enslaving a whole continent. In short, if they were America.

    It’s important to realize that in the early 1940s, the concept of a nuclear bomb was not unknown to top physicists anywhere. Actually making one was a very different thing. The Manhattan Project was, more than anything else, an enormous industrial manufacturing endeavor.

    I suspect that behind all the nutty David Icke, Fart Smell, pseudoscience conspiracy theory types out there talking about “the Nazi Bell” as some sort of antigravity, time travel or underwater Antarctica base device, there is a grain of reality. The “Nazi Bell” was in fact most likely a cheap and dirty, cost effective way to make fissionable materials, and the Nazis might have been just a little closer to success than the American and British sides might have wanted generally broadcast. Even so, they were many years away from having sufficient quality and quantity to do the job.

    But would the Allies have gone to drastic and perhaps brutal clandestine measures to keep the Nazi Bell from general knowledge, if they felt its use might bring other countries closer to nuclear capability? Back then there was a general belief that the US might keep a nuclear monopoly indefinitely until Stalin dropped his first test bomb. It’s not all that crazy that they would.

    The antigravity and time machine theories could be deliberate disinformation propagated to make the whole thing seem even sillier.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    I am aware of no information that supports the idea that "Die Gloecke" even existed. It is folklore.
  391. @oddsbodkins
    They worked against Hitler, for the obvious reason. Then they formed the foundation of a physics and mathematics cognoscenti that gave the US a key technical edge over Stalin after the war. They were the most productive group of immigrants this country has ever had.

    I'm pretty sure a lot of the soldiers who didn't die invading Japan or fighting the Soviets conventionally were white.

    Your contention – a common one – that european Jews were instrumental and indispensible in the creation of the Atomic bomb just isn’t true. A stronger case can be made that Nazis (in the form of Werner von Braun and his team) were instrumental and indispensible in the creation of the Moon rocket. And that isn’t true either.

  392. @Felix...

    The progressives are not very good with numbers. It will be another 20-30 years before they would have the PoC coalition that they seem to think already exists. They live mainly in immigrant-heavy enclaves and, as all simple people, they extrapolate. The liberal dominance depended on pacified and disinterested white voting, that is gone. It is unlikely that even 40% of whites would vote for identity-obsessed Dems. People know when they are not liked. And most pro-Trump part of America are white High School students – they will soon start voting.

    How are Dem candidates going to address the massive white majority of 70-75%? Preaching and accusations, name calling and hatred are not going to get many white votes. Once society is polarized, the largest group prevails.
     

    Texas and Florida. The PoC coalition you describe is already baked into those two states. It's a mathematical certainty that with the passage of at most a decade both states will become irrevocably blue as old GOP Anglos die off and vibrant PoC reach voting age. Whites can win presidential elections with just one of those states if they can continue getting the rust belt, but with both Texas and Florida off the map there is no pathway to the presidency even if Washington state, Minnesota, Oregon and other unlikely-GOP but heavily white states swing right.

    You say 10 years, I suggested 20-30 years. Both are guesses. You are right about Tx and Florida, it could snowball much faster there.

    But in shorter term, let’s say up to 2024-8, the Dem strategy makes no sense. With a 70-75% white electorate, insulting and patronizing white working and middle classes is self-defeating. Dems are stuck: they cannot run an identity-driven POC, because they would lose. When societies get polarized, the largest and strongest group always prevails. But Dems cannot run anyone who POC identity crazies object to. There is a very small space in the middle there somewhere, maybe a unique candidate with a unique background and skills. The next 2-3 elections will still be decided by the majority whites. And if they wish they can prevent the demographic collapse. It would be hard and ugly, but they could still do it. Once Tx and Florida go the way of California, it will be too late.

  393. @Jack D
    There is a difference between stealing for yourself and stealing "for the people". Every time you pay taxes the government is stealing "for the people" and we tolerate it. If the Communists had taken the land and built themselves 20 palaces like Putin has, that would be stealing for themselves. Stalin had dachas but they were like hovels compared to Putin's bejeweled Czarist fantasy palaces. Mainly they reflected Stalin's paranoia - no carpets so he could hear his enemies sneaking up on him, many different rooms so he could stay in a different room every night, etc.

    When Putin finally steps down, those 20 palaces will become presidential libraries. More time in office means more necessary space for filing cabinets, audio-visual exhibits, and for graceful mingling while holding a wine glass and nibbling cheese. (And of course, room enough to ride a horse through the open front door). Hmm– room enough, “Romanov”…? Would that be some kind of Freudian slip of the hoof or am I just hearing things?

  394. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @guest
    St. Trayvon of the Skittles was martyred shortly before the 2012 election. In fact, I'm almost certain that was a national news story because of the election. That's what turned me, along with reading Jared Taylor around the same time.

    The left called forth Nemesis that year, but didn't learn about it until 4 years later

    The Trayvon agitation was a deliberate, conscious attempt to provoke a re-run of the 1992 LA riots which helped put Bill Clinton in the White House. As the 20th anniversary of those riots approached the agitation intensified noticeably. The left/media knew exactly what they were doing: stoking black anger in order to motivate the black vote. It worked too, as their man duly won the election.

  395. @Guy de Champlagne
    And if soviet life expectancy had gone up with the rest of the world what would it be now? Norway, which is an actually competently run country and was in 1990 as well, had a 6 year increase since 1990. So think of the improvement you could expect by going from a poorly run country to a competently run one (hint: it doesn't look anything like what happened in Russia under Putin)

    And even the paltry 2.6 year increase you cite is more the 1.4 that google gives.

    1. The statistics Google gives are derived from sources like the WHO, who in turn get their data from national statistics services. They are by definition less reliable than the latest national statistics service data.

    2. I have never said that the USSR was a “competently run country,” especially when it comes to life expectancy. You putting words in my mouth.

    Moreover, I have in fact written a lot over the years about Russian demographics, including the stagnation of life expectancy during the post-1960s Soviet period.

    As concerns specifically Putin, life expectancy rose from 65 years at the start of his rule to what will be close to 72 years in 2016 (and probably 73 years this year).

  396. @Anonymous
    It's important to realize that in the early 1940s, the concept of a nuclear bomb was not unknown to top physicists anywhere. Actually making one was a very different thing. The Manhattan Project was, more than anything else, an enormous industrial manufacturing endeavor.

    I suspect that behind all the nutty David Icke, Fart Smell, pseudoscience conspiracy theory types out there talking about "the Nazi Bell" as some sort of antigravity, time travel or underwater Antarctica base device, there is a grain of reality. The "Nazi Bell" was in fact most likely a cheap and dirty, cost effective way to make fissionable materials, and the Nazis might have been just a little closer to success than the American and British sides might have wanted generally broadcast. Even so, they were many years away from having sufficient quality and quantity to do the job.

    But would the Allies have gone to drastic and perhaps brutal clandestine measures to keep the Nazi Bell from general knowledge, if they felt its use might bring other countries closer to nuclear capability? Back then there was a general belief that the US might keep a nuclear monopoly indefinitely until Stalin dropped his first test bomb. It's not all that crazy that they would.

    The antigravity and time machine theories could be deliberate disinformation propagated to make the whole thing seem even sillier.

    I am aware of no information that supports the idea that “Die Gloecke” even existed. It is folklore.

  397. @Currahee
    I don't believe this photo is genuine. Give me proof as to source.

    Yes the photo is genuine. The program’s Twitter account posted it June 2nd.

  398. @Jack D
    After Yanukovych was overthrown in Ukraine we got some inkling of the billions that he stole and Ukraine's economy is not even 1/10th the size of Russia's so Putin has surely stolen at least 10x as much as Yanukovych or he should be ashamed of himself.

    My point was more that its not how the Kremlin actually works.

    First, the ratios you gave out are complete and obvious hyperbole, as you yourself probably realize.

    Second, “Swiss banks” isn’t their MO, at least so far as the very top people are concerned. As Navalny’s video about Medvedev has shown, the way corruption works is through fake charities funded by billionaire sponsors and managed by close friends and classmates buying up luxury properties, yachts, etc., most of them in Russia, for the exclusive or near exclusive use of Putin’s entourage.

    Seeing the obvious interest US intelligence services have in identifying Putin’s hundreds of billions in offshore wealth and their continuing failure to do so (this claim, incidentally, that originated with Stanislav Belkovsky, an anti-Putin Russian political scientist), not to mention the logical impossibility of Putin (esp. post-Crimea) ever getting to enjoy his offshore wealth in the event he is forced from power, it is logically unlikely that he has massive offshore assets.

    Comparisons by way of Yanukovych are probably out of place. First, Ukraine is even more corrupt than Russia. Second, Yanukovych and his son had a personal reputation for rapacity, even by regional standards. Third, he didn’t have to worry about Western asset freezes until late 2013, when he reversed his pro-EU course in favor of integration with the Customs Union.

  399. @Lot
    You say 72.5, the WHO says 70.5, and below Bolivia, North Korea, Moldova, Libya, Venezuela. Russian life expectancy is considerably below places as Hondurus, Tunisia, Iran, and Jamaica. Maybe if Putin could get Russians to switch from pathological levels of vodka to ganja, Russia might aspire to some day rise up to Jamaican levels.

    What the WHO says is irrelevant because it gets all its data from national statistics services. It is basically Russian figures with a lag time.

    That is in fact exactly what has been happening (minus the ganja); vodka consumption has been dropping since the mid-2000s, thanks in significant part to government policy including rising excise taxes, and vodka consumption has been falling/getting substituted by beer ever since.

  400. @Jack D
    Vodka would be an improvement. Apparently 20% of Russian alcohol consumption consists of untaxed "surrogate" alcohol such as bath lotion which is cheaper than real vodka. On a good day this stuff is mostly ethanol but on a bad day it is methanol and the drinkers die a horrible death.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Irkutsk_mass_methanol_poisoning

    This is a common viewpoint, but its wrong.

    When vodka is cheap, less people consume deadly stuff, but there’s not that many of them to begin with; in contrast; almost everybody consumes considerably more vodka.

    When vodka is expensive, relatively more people consume the deadly stuff, but again there’s not that many of them, and the big mortality increase accruing amongst that small pool of degenerates is more than counterbalanced by average vodka consumption going down.

    Mortality, especially mortality from alcohol poisoning (which is directly linked to the above), would not have been going sharply down since the mid-2000s if things were otherwise.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    Anatoly, I apologize for the non-Semite regulars at the iSteve plantation for the abuse being heaped upon you by members of the Semitic wing. They live in a country where the racial cohort doing all the heavy lifting, white people, are the ones killing themselves with a variety of substances, to the point where their life expectancy actually dropped.

    Glass house, meet stone.

    But has been discussed in a previous thread, (((they))) tend to be averse to mind-altering substances, and if it didn't happen to (((that))) group, it didn't happen.

  401. @Lot
    Keep trying and maybe you will make it to the RT payroll!

    You are probably too thick to realize you are the mirror image of Russian propaganda.

    • Replies: @Lot
    That does not make sense. Work on your Engliah too.
  402. @Mr. Anon

    Keep trying and maybe you will make it to the RT payroll!
     
    Did you read what Jack D wrote? "For every kopeck that the average Russian sees, Putin has put a billion in a Swiss bank account and 100 million to his cronies."

    Putin has a billion times more money than the average Russian? That would make him - what? A Trillionaire? A Quadrillionaire? That pretty much does sound like nonsense, as Mr. Karlin said. Perhaps Jack D mis-stated the order of magnitude - he probably did - he's a smart guy - I don't think he'd be off that much. The number I have heard is that Putin is worth somewhere around the order of 10 billion dollars or there abouts (give or take a factor of 2 or 5 either way) - all down to his tireless work on behalf of the Russian people, no doubt.

    Corrupt as Putin is - and even the Clintons are nowhere near as rapacious as he is - his truly epic corruption bothers me less than that of our own public officials. He doesn't govern our country (despite what CNN might believe) - our officials do.

    I agree Putin is superior to Hillary, Obama, and Merkel. That is a very low bar.

    We should not be looking to him, but to the great patriots our history and Western nationalists. Putin might have done great things for Russia, instead he stole billions, wasted more on a bloated police state and military, and sits by on his golden toilet while the Russian people disappear.

    • Replies: @Dmitry134564
    The government has done as much as it could, from a government position, to increase birth-rates, and the total fertility rate has increased (although remaining below replacement rate and partly attributable to the increase in the size of Muslim nationalities).
    , @Mr. Anon

    We should not be looking to him, but to the great patriots our history and Western nationalists.
     
    Who is this "we" you talk about? I'm not. You're not. Most people on this site aren't.