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From Forbes:
Apr 25, 2019, 06:18pm
What Does DNA Tell Us About Race?
Jennifer RaffGeneticist. Anthropologist. Science writer.
Today is National DNA Day, a day to commemorate the publication of James Watson and Francis Crick’s famous paper (that included the work of Rosalind Franklin) in 1953 describing the structure of DNA.
As we reflect back on the incredible scientific progress that has been made since this paper, one of the most striking developments is how the study of our own genomes has changed our understanding of human variation
The American Association of Physical Anthropologists, an organization of scientists dedicated to the study of the biological variation, adaptation, and evolution of humans and our close relatives, has just released a position statement on race and racism. …
As the statement discusses, one of the most important insights from studies of human DNA across the world has been that the concept of “race” is not a useful or accurate term to describe patterns of biological variation that exist.
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“Race” is such a useless and inaccurate term and yet it’s used effectively in medicine, forensics, government, etc., etc.
This is such a dumb tack I wonder what the point of it is. What’s the point of all this obfuscation? To obscure race/IQ differences? You’d sound less stupid denying the reality of IQ. The average American runs into race a lot more frequently.
That's how it will be. I've read on-line debates where the opponents agree on virtually all the science, but just frame it differently in their own minds and come out with totally different outlooks.
Nothing will change in society. We'll continue to muddle along until we can no longer muddle.
They know exactly what they are doing.
Forbes is a free-for-all HuffPost type site now. They pay their writers a little bit of money based on clicks.
Obviously the branding and content focus is a little different, but same general idea.
Early on, it appears it was a legit way to do business. Trade free work for a prominent byline that may lead to something better. Greg Gutfeld was treading water until he started writing free stuff for the Huff Po, which lead to his Fox News show. Now that career path looks to have evaporated, and you get what you pay for.
People who are conservative politically, tend to be conservative in their personal lives. So righties who aren't getting paid tend to give it up after a while, or never even begin since there's no gold at the end of the rainbow. Lefties tend to be more zealous than Pentacostal preachers, and get more attaboys (girls) from their peers for essentially wasting their time writing drivel.
Steve is incredibly lucky he built a fanbase early on back when he was still published in mainstream places. Internet writing is a harsh mistress.
In related news, one of the most important insights from the study of quantum mechanics is that the concept of “elements” isn’t a useful or accurate term to describe patterns of material variation that exist. So sayeth the new prophets.
Actually, in a sense she’s right. She just conveniently leaves out the part where geneticists prefer to use concepts like “genotype”, which is roughly the same thing as race but a little more precise.
From Wikipedia:
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In other words, “Forbes,” not Forbes.
One strategy employed by the Left, as David Burge (IowaHawk) likes to say, is to: “1) Identify a respected institution; 2) Kill it; 3) Gut it; 4) Wear its carcass as a skin suit, while demanding respect.”
Forbes has responded to the drastic changes in the magazine industry by becoming something far different from what it used to be. It’s a bit like meeting that nice young mom who used to go to church with you on the street and discovering that she’s now a tattooed lesbian who constantly vapes (which happened to me just last week).
Meanwhile,
New Turmoil Over Predicting the Effects of Genes
This is an important insight. Most of the major institutions (e.g. universities, corporations, organized sports, denominational churches) have now been captured by the Left, via this strategy. They survive through the residual respect that their old selves used to command, and by falsely using the old-time language, but people are catching on, in particular with the liberal denominational churches which are in steep decline as non-leftists depart.
Teen Forbes.
I object to the “national” adjective in National DNA Day. Are these a bunch of torch-bearing nationalists, pyro-sequencing their blood samples via tiki torchlight-heat in Charlottesville?
"Race" is such a useless and inaccurate term and yet it's used effectively in medicine, forensics, government, etc., etc.
This is such a dumb tack I wonder what the point of it is. What's the point of all this obfuscation? To obscure race/IQ differences? You'd sound less stupid denying the reality of IQ. The average American runs into race a lot more frequently.
Lysenko lives!
The writer burbled up in the Nicholas Wade controversy:
https://violentmetaphors.com/2014/05/21/nicholas-wade-and-race-building-a-scientific-facade/
Honestly, she seems better informed than most anthropologists, so there is the possibility of a real debate, up to a point. In other words, she is not citing Stephen Jay Gould, and she has a passing knowledge of mathematical population genetics.
It's perhaps irrelevant, but if we omit the word 'genetic,' I've found that my predisposition for violence declines sharply when some actually occurs.
I'm not just talking about when I'm the victim of the violence; I've been pretty shocked when I've generated it as well. 'I did that? Shit...'
Anyway, nothin' like some actual violence to lessen its appeal. That's been my experience.
Fortune writers once liked to sneer that Forbes was about the cult of wealth, while Fortune was about the sport of commerce. If only either were still true!
Remember Mad Magazine's take on hippie Boomers, that their progeny would be "squares"?
Malcolm Forbes appeared to be "flamboyant" in his personal life, with yes, rumors that he was a closeted gay person, whereas his son and publishing heir Steve Forbes was the Ur Square? But the Forbes editorial position didn't deviate any from Open Borders Woke Libertarianism?
Forbes was down with a lot of Leftist causes years ago, at least on the cultural side.
They seem to be willing to sell anyone out, destroy any culture or country, as long as they get Muh Tax Cuts!
Forbes' vacuity has a long and inglorious history; witness Peter Brimelow's discussion of its gutless handling of "The Bell Curve's" publication.
By the way, these cultural leftist causes are not leftist causes. They're simply a means to advance the interests of the corporate sector. Cultural leftism or cultural marxism or whatever you choose to call it is a right-wing conspiracy, not a left-wing one.
NYT: The real victim of the anti-Christian massacres in Sri Lanka is a pro-hijab Muslima activist at Brown University, who is probably exhausted with emotional labor.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/world/asia/sri-lanka-brown-student.html
"daughter of Sri Lankan immigrants"
"Race" is such a useless and inaccurate term and yet it's used effectively in medicine, forensics, government, etc., etc.
This is such a dumb tack I wonder what the point of it is. What's the point of all this obfuscation? To obscure race/IQ differences? You'd sound less stupid denying the reality of IQ. The average American runs into race a lot more frequently.
The answer is quite simple:
The only utility of “race” is to declare people racists. “Perceiving” race is a crime against humanity, and even worse, against SCIENCE!
So, it is now the “The Forbes Thing”, to borrow from from Philip K. Dick’s “The Father Thing” – which, funnily enough, has been father-thinged in Philip K. Dick’s Electric Dreams into a call to #Resist.
Meanwhile,
New Turmoil Over Predicting the Effects of Genes
Oh for fuck’s sake.
Better vaping than smoking.
Since she admits we perceive race, a simple experiment could prove that race, as we perceive it, aligns almost perfectly with “patterns of biological variation that exist”. Just get head shots of a few dozen people of various racial backgrounds who have had DNA ancestry tests, and then pay random tourists in Vegas $10 to go through the photos and click the race or races they think the people in the photos belong to. Then show how closely the perceived races match the DNA ancestry.
Such tests have been done with perceived races shown to match DNA ancestries!
They seem to be willing to sell anyone out, destroy any culture or country, as long as they get Muh Tax Cuts!
RichardTaylor:
Forbes’ vacuity has a long and inglorious history; witness Peter Brimelow’s discussion of its gutless handling of “The Bell Curve’s” publication.
what’s that rule? any organization not overtly right wing, will become left wing eventually.
Dave Pinsen:
Such tests have been done with perceived races shown to match DNA ancestries!
When we read something like this from the article:It is like hearing Big Brother say 2+2=5, and we are just supposed to believe it.
It is questionable whether even those who write such things believe them (or even if they themselves know if they believe what they write!) but we are not supposed to question. Such is the level of insanity and thought control now.
Such tests have been done with perceived races shown to match DNA ancestries!
Yes.
When we read something like this from the article:
It is like hearing Big Brother say 2+2=5, and we are just supposed to believe it.
It is questionable whether even those who write such things believe them (or even if they themselves know if they believe what they write!) but we are not supposed to question. Such is the level of insanity and thought control now.
Dr James Patrick of the College of Saint Thomas More in Dallas likes to say that the English are particularly expert at gutting institutions while leaving nary a change in their outward appearance.
Is journalism like academia now, right wingers you can count on just one hand? The company I worked at employed a number journalists and they were the most left wing people I ever met.
The idea that the left would concede that scientific advances made denial of race impossible clearly weren’t familiar with the left. The great dream of applying advances in genetic understanding applicable to public policy questions is dead. When was the last time I heard about what Satoshi Kanazawa is up to?
So the author would have us say something like this in conversation: “America’s problems are disproportionately caused by members of the majority SSA associated genotypes underclass”?
It might have been 100 years ago, and it most likely will not after another 100 years of admixture and migration.
There you go again with your hateful hate logic! Why do you insist on spoiling all the SJW fun?
"Race" is such a useless and inaccurate term and yet it's used effectively in medicine, forensics, government, etc., etc.
This is such a dumb tack I wonder what the point of it is. What's the point of all this obfuscation? To obscure race/IQ differences? You'd sound less stupid denying the reality of IQ. The average American runs into race a lot more frequently.
humiliation of the intelligent is the point its an old stalinist tactic it makes them party to their own humiliations by submitting and shame locked to you
It’s all really very simple and straightforward: race does not exist except for the purpose of enabling anti-racism to exist. Without race, you see, there could be no right or wrong; yet we mustn’t allow such an awsome power to fall into the wrong hands, so only anti-racists will be competent to determine where/when race actually exists.
All clear now?
Obviously the branding and content focus is a little different, but same general idea.
Woke = intellectual open borders.
I dumped Forbes in 2008 after they were blindsided by the Lehman Brothers collapse. A few Forbes columnists at the time, including Gary Shilling, were warning on their own time about the subprime mortgage buildup at the same time that Forbes itself was running articles on the hottest female CEOs and how to get into stamp collecting.
Eventually Ken Fisher stopped writing a Forbes column and started with USA Today so that shows how far Forbes has fallen.
Okay, if race is not a useful or accurate concept, the globalists can help along the process of shutting down race-obsessed organizations like the BLM, La Raza (The Race), the NAACP and the Rainbow Coalition. There’s only one color in the rainbow, and we know it’s not white.
That this de-legitimizes Whites from grouping together to defend their interests against invaders and looters is, of course, totally irrelevant to the issue. TOTALLY!
"Race" is such a useless and inaccurate term and yet it's used effectively in medicine, forensics, government, etc., etc.
This is such a dumb tack I wonder what the point of it is. What's the point of all this obfuscation? To obscure race/IQ differences? You'd sound less stupid denying the reality of IQ. The average American runs into race a lot more frequently.
Back in the day I had a casual encounter with a philosophy grad student on this topic. He was spouting the party line with a little too much emotional angst. I suggested he was protesting too much, and that no one really believed it. He paused a moment, then said that is was easier to just deny race than to have to explain all the statistics and nuances to an angry audience.
https://twitter.com/JenniferRaff/status/464854690136465408
https://violentmetaphors.com/2014/05/21/nicholas-wade-and-race-building-a-scientific-facade/
Honestly, she seems better informed than most anthropologists, so there is the possibility of a real debate, up to a point. In other words, she is not citing Stephen Jay Gould, and she has a passing knowledge of mathematical population genetics.
If that’s the case, then not all that encouraging.
When was Forbes ever not “woke”?
Remember Mad Magazine’s take on hippie Boomers, that their progeny would be “squares”?
Malcolm Forbes appeared to be “flamboyant” in his personal life, with yes, rumors that he was a closeted gay person, whereas his son and publishing heir Steve Forbes was the Ur Square? But the Forbes editorial position didn’t deviate any from Open Borders Woke Libertarianism?
Something happened around 1999 with Forbes again post 2012. I'd chalk it up to changing Publishers/Editors.
James Michaels 1961-1999
Rich Karlgaard 1998-
Meanwhile,
New Turmoil Over Predicting the Effects of Genes
Re: Quanta Magazine article, New Turmoil Over Predicting the Effects of Genes.
This highbrow article was written by Jordana Cepelewicz, who seems to understand the issues surrounding GWAS’.
It’s also a motte-and-bailey instant classic. As Scott Alexander explained,
Cepelewicz’ bailey is “two new studies have convinced leading scientists that GWAS’ don’t work, because bad statistics have overemphasized Genes and masked the larger-than-expected effect of Environment. Like we knew in our hearts all along, genes don’t matter that much.”
Her motte is “in the GWAS’ done to date, Genes explain somewhat less of phenotype than originally hoped, because statistics. And, segue, GWAS’ are morally suspect because the underlying data sets have been mostly gathered from white populations, and the resulting polygenic risk scores from the earliest batch of studies aren’t as powerful at predicting phenotype for People of Color. This unfairly burdens People of Color by exacerbating health disparities and underpinning unjust public policies.”
Mary Beard (featured a few days and many posts ago) would benefit from studying Ms. Cepelewicz’ example.
I'll take that as a win.
it is similar with skin color. Europeans and East Asians do not have brown skin, yet based on European GWAS studies all Asians should be dark Brown. The reverse is true for South Asians (Indians) While many Indians have the European genes for white skin , they are usually dark brown despite having the European genes for white skin.
The Cheddar man, the 9,150 year old Mesolithic fossil from England, was genotyped and they concluded he had dark brown skin because of he had lacked the genetic variant at SLC24A5 and SLC45A2 which is omnipresent among Caucasians and correlated white skin. Some in the media declared that the “first Britons were black!”. Based on the GWAS studies all East Asians would thus be classified as Black, because all East Asians also lack the derived variant at SLC24A5 and SLC45A2 and thus are presumed to be Black skinned like Africans.
While East Asians lack both these derived variants of SLC24A5 and SLC45A2, they are nevertheless light-skinned. Indians often have the derived variants ubiquitous among Europeans yet have brown skin. Based on the genes at at SLC24A5 and SLC45A2 they have concluded that Cheddar man was Black, although they acknowledged he had Blue eyes and straight hair...depigmentation has evolved independently in Europeans and East Asians, as different genes and variants explain the light skin and positive selection in these two continental groups.
I would liken it to the second law of thermodynamics.
When we read something like this from the article:It is like hearing Big Brother say 2+2=5, and we are just supposed to believe it.
It is questionable whether even those who write such things believe them (or even if they themselves know if they believe what they write!) but we are not supposed to question. Such is the level of insanity and thought control now.
It’s gaslighting, pure and simple.
A very apt analogy.
Obviously the branding and content focus is a little different, but same general idea.
When they get away from business and into the social and political realms, they’re quite liberal.
Only a hateful genotypist would think such a thing
What was it Ignatiev said about the white race? Yeah, do that to anthropology. I almost failed my cultural anthropology class before I knew how particularly noxious the discipline is — proud of myself in retrospect.
“1) Identify a respected institution; 2) Kill it; 3) Gut it; 4) Wear its carcass as a skin suit, while demanding respect.”
This is an important insight. Most of the major institutions (e.g. universities, corporations, organized sports, denominational churches) have now been captured by the Left, via this strategy. They survive through the residual respect that their old selves used to command, and by falsely using the old-time language, but people are catching on, in particular with the liberal denominational churches which are in steep decline as non-leftists depart.
Their eponymous Church springs to mind.
In fact most of those fine old English institutions have always been jokes. Like Parliament, the purpose of which is and always has been to ensure that the elites remain in charge and the people don't get a say.
And of course the monarchy. England ceased to be a monarchy in any meaningful sense in 1689.
England is built on illusions.
They used to say genes had no appreciable input. Now they say genes aren’t as powerful as some expected.
I’ll take that as a win.
Steve Forbes Was Born A Rich Boy Globalizer Weasel Fop
Forbes Magazine Now Features Female Weasel Fop Writers Who Deny The Biological Existence Of Race And Genetics
Steve Forbes is a sleazy globalizer Mapplethorper money-grubber from way back.
I remember Steve Forbes attacking Pat Buchanan back in 1996 because Pat Buchanan was campaigning on stopping illegal immigration and reducing legal immigration.
Tweets from 2015:
“James Watson and Francis Crick’s famous paper (that included the work of Rosalind Franklin) in 1953 describing the structure of DNA.”
Is that passive-aggressive or what?
Thank heaven that’s decided. No race. Now we can – and must – stop asking about it on government forms, and school and job applications. And we can finally disband the EEOC! Good news everyone.
Forbes Magazine is run by a weasel fop globalizer Mapplethorper who pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and illegal immigration.
He is the son of a Mapplethorper named Malcom.
I assure you good people that the weasel fop mass immigration fanatic Steve Mapplethorper Forbes lives in a mostly White town.
Forbes Magazine is pushing brain-dead female weasel fop scribblers who deny the existence of race and downplay genetics because Forbes Magazine pushes deracinated globalization and mass immigration inundation of European Christian nations.
Steve Forbes is an evil baby boomer globalizer who pushes nation-wrecking mass legal immigration and illegal immigration and multicultural mayhem. Steve Forbes does this while living in a mostly White town. Steve Forbes wants YOU to be living cheek by jowl with foreigners and non-Whites, he doesn’t want to do that himself.
Forbes Magazine prints the brain-dead race musing ramblings of a female weasel fop scribbler for another simple reason: close to or exceeding 60 percent of college and university graduates are females.
Forbes Magazine from 2012, some numbers nibbler can get the 2019 numbers.
Tweet from 2014 about 2012 Forbes story on male/female ration in college:
The A. A. P. A. appears to be owned by the deep state.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12258297-weaponizing-anthropology
Around half of Price’s book can be read in episodes on Counterpunch. It is a close contest whether anthropologists or missionaries make up the larger fraction of the espionage profession historically.
"Race" is such a useless and inaccurate term and yet it's used effectively in medicine, forensics, government, etc., etc.
This is such a dumb tack I wonder what the point of it is. What's the point of all this obfuscation? To obscure race/IQ differences? You'd sound less stupid denying the reality of IQ. The average American runs into race a lot more frequently.
They’re going to concede that populations differ, but since you can’t pinpoint exactly where one population begins and ends it’s not useful to make any classifications at all.
That’s how it will be. I’ve read on-line debates where the opponents agree on virtually all the science, but just frame it differently in their own minds and come out with totally different outlooks.
Nothing will change in society. We’ll continue to muddle along until we can no longer muddle.
New question on the Census Form, “What Variant do you identify with?”
Conquest’s 2nd law of politics.
The first law, and most important, is that people are conservative about what they know best.
Which is why white people move out of black neighborhoods pronto.
Unless you’re a brother, you do not want to live in North Philadelphia. Even if you go to Temple.
English people are the reason your whole country and all of its institutions even exist, you ungrateful little taig
Nevertheless, never forget that we came here because what the revolving musical-chairs authorities in England all had in common is that they were complete arseholes when in power. In some ways they still are. Try exercising your common-law right of self-defense in Bradford or Rotherham. It's not a problem in Texas or Florida.
Finally, although he is by birth a Mississippi Mick, Dr Patrick is a fine man. You are not.
The evidence in support of the existence of racial categories (beyond what common sense informs us) will soon be so overwhelming that advocates of the Race Is A Social Construct religion will be out-competing the Flat Earth Society for its share of dismissal and derision.
Silly wabbits.
Next stop:
Teen Forbes.
They’ve made the anthropology field an intellectually and ethically discredited joke of science that has quickly sought lower ground than even psychology and sociology.
That’s a good one.
Any “scientist” worth their salt wouldn’t spend another minute in a field that actively punishes certain hypotheses and conclusions.
Iowahawk is a neocon clown who wants high immigration levels. Probably the most worthless and boring mainstream conservative pundit.
You're not a pundit if you don't do anything by speak in soundbites.
The phrase “…that included the work of Rosalind Franklin…” jumped off the screen as it were, frantically waving the red flag, so right away I knew where this was going. The relationship between race and genetics is a subject about which I don’t have a great deal of knowledge but I do know enough to state categorically that it is a subject which, at the very least, continues to be investigated within the confines of the genetics laboratory.
Outside the lab of course, the questions have already been answered. And as James Watson himself found out–woe betide anyone who suggests otherwise.
Breed or color work quite well. Its’s OK to be White-bred.
Remember Mad Magazine's take on hippie Boomers, that their progeny would be "squares"?
Malcolm Forbes appeared to be "flamboyant" in his personal life, with yes, rumors that he was a closeted gay person, whereas his son and publishing heir Steve Forbes was the Ur Square? But the Forbes editorial position didn't deviate any from Open Borders Woke Libertarianism?
Trump outed him:
By affirming one’s group, the “other” is not necessarily disparaged, but just that one prefers one’s own. Any group genome whose members did not affirm and protect its own virtually ceased to exist in the species genome. They would be selected OUT. So the concept of race or ethnicity are valid explanations for group differentiation. Affirming one’s own is a natural proclivity. Denying one’s own is not only pathological, but genetically suicidal.
Better for whom? I find walking though an exhaled vape cloud, smelling of cotton-candy, root-beer, or some other noxiously sweet odor, to be worse than walking through a cloud of cigarette or pipe smoke. Apart from the smell, there is the fact that the vape cloud is an actual cloud of water-droplets that was just in somebody’s lungs, and possibly infused with whatever crap is lurking in their alveoli. The exhausted smoke seems less likely to be carrying pathogens.
"Race" is such a useless and inaccurate term and yet it's used effectively in medicine, forensics, government, etc., etc.
This is such a dumb tack I wonder what the point of it is. What's the point of all this obfuscation? To obscure race/IQ differences? You'd sound less stupid denying the reality of IQ. The average American runs into race a lot more frequently.
MALE BLACK LAST SEEN HEADING SOUTH ON LOWER WACKER DRIVE
On the Oakland P.D. even the black cops don't like young black men.
"Race" is such a useless and inaccurate term and yet it's used effectively in medicine, forensics, government, etc., etc.
This is such a dumb tack I wonder what the point of it is. What's the point of all this obfuscation? To obscure race/IQ differences? You'd sound less stupid denying the reality of IQ. The average American runs into race a lot more frequently.
To middle-class White people, this does not appear to be a dumb tack. This is the accepted view of most White people. It has been hammered into their heads since they were little children.
Does he actually qualify as a “pundit” anymore? I haven’t seen him produce anything more complicated than a Tweet since he discovered Twitter.
You’re not a pundit if you don’t do anything by speak in soundbites.
There is a type of nonsense that is so silly it’s hard to believe that anyone is stupid enough to actually believe in it. Such is the case with the current efforts by liberals and SJWs to deny the reality of human races. Let’s think about this shall we?
Let’s agree on a few things first like evolution and that humans are descended from apes. W can call the “acceptance of Darwin”. If you accept conventional modern biology you simply can’t ignore human races.
People are closely related to chimpanzees. Chimps have several races, as do gorillas and orangutans. This is not in anyway controversial. The great apes are similar in this way with almost all mammals. So if you assert that humans have no races you inevitably place humankind out side of normal zoology. How likely is that? Is there some glitch in the Great Chain of Being? Or are the raceless people the product of some special creation?
Denial of race seems quite rational and level-headed by comparison.
And the SJWs won an overwhelming victory in World War T. You really think they're going to have any trouble enforcing Social Justice orthodoxy on race?
Ancestry.com has told me that I’m well over 50% Anglo-Saxon by genes, more than genealogy shows. I’m as Anglocentric as anybody here.
Nevertheless, never forget that we came here because what the revolving musical-chairs authorities in England all had in common is that they were complete arseholes when in power. In some ways they still are. Try exercising your common-law right of self-defense in Bradford or Rotherham. It’s not a problem in Texas or Florida.
Finally, although he is by birth a Mississippi Mick, Dr Patrick is a fine man. You are not.
While Dr Patrick hails from Mississippi, he's not a Mick. How do I know? In response to my query he told me he was of English descent.
Nah, they’re just pretending to believe in order to avoid the charge of Racism!
The question is is this the first engagement of the fossilized forces of fact denialists in a rear guard action in the losing war against truth coming out? Or is it the final napalming of “it still moves.”
The Chinese could give a shit about their napalm.
Nobody cares about facts or truth. Even scientists don't care about truth if it might put their funding in jeopardy. Nobody believes facts because in every argument both sides claim that the facts are on their side. If it wasn't obvious before this then the whole climate change thing has demonstrated conclusively that the truth is whatever the people with the Megaphone say it is.
Truth is what makes you feel good. Truth is whatever is advantageous for your special interest group. Everybody with a political agenda lies, and everyone has a political agenda.
This is a completely unwinnable argument. For Americans it would mean accepting that their whole society is built on a lie. That all men are not created equal. They ain't gonna do that. It makes no difference what a handful of right-wing keyboard warriors want. It ain't gonna happen. This is a handful of right-wingers wanting to fight a battle that is already lost before the first shot is fired.
"Race" is such a useless and inaccurate term and yet it's used effectively in medicine, forensics, government, etc., etc.
This is such a dumb tack I wonder what the point of it is. What's the point of all this obfuscation? To obscure race/IQ differences? You'd sound less stupid denying the reality of IQ. The average American runs into race a lot more frequently.
The point is that the genocide of the white race is meaningless and not something that whites (or others) should be concerned about or oppose. Sure, it’s a stupid, evil, and outrageous lie — but that’s the answer.
“Race” is defined by ancestry, not genotype. Of course, common ancestry means lots of genetic similarity, but don’t confuse the two. With other species we look at phenotype and genotype for taxonomic purposes, but they are proxies that are unnecessary for the study of humans.
"Race" is such a useless and inaccurate term and yet it's used effectively in medicine, forensics, government, etc., etc.
This is such a dumb tack I wonder what the point of it is. What's the point of all this obfuscation? To obscure race/IQ differences? You'd sound less stupid denying the reality of IQ. The average American runs into race a lot more frequently.
It’s doublethink. Logic got nuttin’ to do with it.
They know exactly what they are doing.
Yeah if you ever listen to the police scanner EVERY person of interest is labeled by race even if it’s “race unspecified”.
On the Oakland P.D. even the black cops don’t like young black men.
"Race" is such a useless and inaccurate term and yet it's used effectively in medicine, forensics, government, etc., etc.
This is such a dumb tack I wonder what the point of it is. What's the point of all this obfuscation? To obscure race/IQ differences? You'd sound less stupid denying the reality of IQ. The average American runs into race a lot more frequently.
it’s the foundation mass immigration is built on.
I would read this to be an admission that biological differences do in fact exist, but that they in and of themselves do not justify caste-like sociological racial categories. This much is true; the error lies in the author’s assumption that there are legions of those who believe otherwise who need to be put in their place.
Remember Mad Magazine's take on hippie Boomers, that their progeny would be "squares"?
Malcolm Forbes appeared to be "flamboyant" in his personal life, with yes, rumors that he was a closeted gay person, whereas his son and publishing heir Steve Forbes was the Ur Square? But the Forbes editorial position didn't deviate any from Open Borders Woke Libertarianism?
I can recall Peter Brimelow being allowed to write anti-immigration charticles in Forbes in the 1990s.
Something happened around 1999 with Forbes again post 2012. I’d chalk it up to changing Publishers/Editors.
James Michaels 1961-1999
Rich Karlgaard 1998-
undecided – it is currently a losing rearguard action against a tide of data but maybe they’ll go full red guard.
Trump continued that he didn’t care about Forbes’s private life. It was his own liquor license that was on the line.
I’ve read that that was the real issue, or one of them, at Stonewall, too.
Compare the authority of Elizabeth II to that of Elizabeth I!
Have they renamed the plane
“The Social Marxist Tool” yet?
By “insights” of course they mean “unsubstantiated claims”.
Nevertheless, never forget that we came here because what the revolving musical-chairs authorities in England all had in common is that they were complete arseholes when in power. In some ways they still are. Try exercising your common-law right of self-defense in Bradford or Rotherham. It's not a problem in Texas or Florida.
Finally, although he is by birth a Mississippi Mick, Dr Patrick is a fine man. You are not.
Reg Caesar:
While Dr Patrick hails from Mississippi, he’s not a Mick. How do I know? In response to my query he told me he was of English descent.
“Race” is not a useful term. We’re going to call it, uh, flibbertygibbet. Yeah, that’s the ticket.
it was GWAS studies and conclusions always made it clear that the predictions only work with Europeans. The polygenic score used to predict academic success explicitly stated the scores do not work with African Americans. This seems to imply that Blacks are too different from whites for the scores to be useful.
it is similar with skin color. Europeans and East Asians do not have brown skin, yet based on European GWAS studies all Asians should be dark Brown. The reverse is true for South Asians (Indians) While many Indians have the European genes for white skin , they are usually dark brown despite having the European genes for white skin.
The Cheddar man, the 9,150 year old Mesolithic fossil from England, was genotyped and they concluded he had dark brown skin because of he had lacked the genetic variant at SLC24A5 and SLC45A2 which is omnipresent among Caucasians and correlated white skin. Some in the media declared that the “first Britons were black!”. Based on the GWAS studies all East Asians would thus be classified as Black, because all East Asians also lack the derived variant at SLC24A5 and SLC45A2 and thus are presumed to be Black skinned like Africans.
While East Asians lack both these derived variants of SLC24A5 and SLC45A2, they are nevertheless light-skinned. Indians often have the derived variants ubiquitous among Europeans yet have brown skin. Based on the genes at at SLC24A5 and SLC45A2 they have concluded that Cheddar man was Black, although they acknowledged he had Blue eyes and straight hair…depigmentation has evolved independently in Europeans and East Asians, as different genes and variants explain the light skin and positive selection in these two continental groups.
https://twitter.com/JenniferRaff/status/464854690136465408
https://violentmetaphors.com/2014/05/21/nicholas-wade-and-race-building-a-scientific-facade/
Honestly, she seems better informed than most anthropologists, so there is the possibility of a real debate, up to a point. In other words, she is not citing Stephen Jay Gould, and she has a passing knowledge of mathematical population genetics.
Hashtag what. Is that supposed to mean she disagrees? Because I keep losing track of whether the past or the present is supposed to be more violent.
For instance, if you’re for abolishing nukes you talk up the Noble Savage. But if you support integration of public schools, you talk about white terrorism under Jim Crow.
Then again, if you’re an atheist pacifist, you can point to either medieval torture chambers or suicide bombers. Your choice. (Assuming they let you criticize bombers of color; but I don’t want to get too intersectional here.)
Consider the fact that those people would still be breathing even if they weren’t vaping. You simply wouldn’t smell it. So on that point, you’re screwed. But I agree about the relative sanitation of cigarette smoke.
https://twitter.com/JenniferRaff/status/464854690136465408
https://violentmetaphors.com/2014/05/21/nicholas-wade-and-race-building-a-scientific-facade/
Honestly, she seems better informed than most anthropologists, so there is the possibility of a real debate, up to a point. In other words, she is not citing Stephen Jay Gould, and she has a passing knowledge of mathematical population genetics.
‘According to Nicholas Wade, our genetic predisposition for violence is fading because modern societies are less violent than ancient. ‘
It’s perhaps irrelevant, but if we omit the word ‘genetic,’ I’ve found that my predisposition for violence declines sharply when some actually occurs.
I’m not just talking about when I’m the victim of the violence; I’ve been pretty shocked when I’ve generated it as well. ‘I did that? Shit…’
Anyway, nothin’ like some actual violence to lessen its appeal. That’s been my experience.
As was the original Patrick.
Well, okay, a Roman Briton. The Angles were still on the Continent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x08VisNLyVI
http://www.arabnews.com/sites/default/files/styles/n_670_395/public/2018/10/27/1350861-845054160.png?itok=lSwNl07Z
Both, which is why it’s driving them crazy.
The Chinese could give a shit about their napalm.
They think it will be like that scene in Blade Runner where Dekkard learns that Rachael is a replicant. In mid-sentence he goes from describing Rachael as a “she” to an “it”.
That’s how liberals think the white masses will react to blacks if told that race is real. They lie to us because they think we’ll do horrible things if we find out the truth.
Something happened around 1999 with Forbes again post 2012. I'd chalk it up to changing Publishers/Editors.
James Michaels 1961-1999
Rich Karlgaard 1998-
That was the trigger of the Wokedammerung among white (il)liberals that Steve’s been talking about. He attributes it to Obama’s re-election. Anyone have any links to his thinking on that?
Well, okay, a Roman Briton. The Angles were still on the Continent.
However, St Piran actually was Irish. Going by this depiction, they apparently tied him to a millstone and cast him from the Emerald Isle for resembling an early Sinéad O’Connor:
I'm still looking for the interview she gave after doing a Hal Willner project where current trendies did Cole Porter songs. She wore a Veronica Lake like wig and was incensed that the camera man found her alluring. Funny as hell.
As the statement discusses, one of the most important insights from studies of human DNA across the world has been that the concept of “race” is not a useful or accurate term to describe patterns of biological variation that exist.
Until people wake up to the power of lossless compression as model selection criterion to reduce the “argument surface”, “arguments” from establishment platforms will continue the long slide of civil discourse into civil violence, unabated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x08VisNLyVI
http://www.arabnews.com/sites/default/files/styles/n_670_395/public/2018/10/27/1350861-845054160.png?itok=lSwNl07Z
Sinead is a trip.
I’m still looking for the interview she gave after doing a Hal Willner project where current trendies did Cole Porter songs. She wore a Veronica Lake like wig and was incensed that the camera man found her alluring. Funny as hell.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/world/asia/sri-lanka-brown-student.html
Boy is she homely, thus ideal for the hijab she sports.
“daughter of Sri Lankan immigrants”
Obviously the branding and content focus is a little different, but same general idea.
I think a fair number of sites go by this click-for-cash scheme to pay writers. It seems you either go this way, or have backers lined up to pay a professional staff, and it seems with recent layoffs at Buzzfeed, etc., that model is cratering.
Early on, it appears it was a legit way to do business. Trade free work for a prominent byline that may lead to something better. Greg Gutfeld was treading water until he started writing free stuff for the Huff Po, which lead to his Fox News show. Now that career path looks to have evaporated, and you get what you pay for.
People who are conservative politically, tend to be conservative in their personal lives. So righties who aren’t getting paid tend to give it up after a while, or never even begin since there’s no gold at the end of the rainbow. Lefties tend to be more zealous than Pentacostal preachers, and get more attaboys (girls) from their peers for essentially wasting their time writing drivel.
Steve is incredibly lucky he built a fanbase early on back when he was still published in mainstream places. Internet writing is a harsh mistress.
seems to be working for now at TRS Radio
one of the keys might be when paid subscribers start talking about the paid content in the free articles comment section so the free content readers are enticed into subscribing
Meanwhile,
New Turmoil Over Predicting the Effects of Genes
AGW, though. AGW. 99.9999999% of Scientists agree. We’ve got a lock on that, see, because the sum total of atmospheric molecular interaction is very simple. But why are some femurs bigger? The world may never know.
It’s only “not useful or accurate” when applied to Europeans. Everyone else can have a race, ethnicity AND culture of their own; only “White” is a meaningless category in all of those senses.
That this de-legitimizes Whites from grouping together to defend their interests against invaders and looters is, of course, totally irrelevant to the issue. TOTALLY!
The idea that the left would concede that scientific advances made denial of race impossible clearly weren't familiar with the left. The great dream of applying advances in genetic understanding applicable to public policy questions is dead. When was the last time I heard about what Satoshi Kanazawa is up to?
It’ll happen, just in China.
Exactly. The racial socialists are trying to bring about a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Early on, it appears it was a legit way to do business. Trade free work for a prominent byline that may lead to something better. Greg Gutfeld was treading water until he started writing free stuff for the Huff Po, which lead to his Fox News show. Now that career path looks to have evaporated, and you get what you pay for.
People who are conservative politically, tend to be conservative in their personal lives. So righties who aren't getting paid tend to give it up after a while, or never even begin since there's no gold at the end of the rainbow. Lefties tend to be more zealous than Pentacostal preachers, and get more attaboys (girls) from their peers for essentially wasting their time writing drivel.
Steve is incredibly lucky he built a fanbase early on back when he was still published in mainstream places. Internet writing is a harsh mistress.
It will be interesting to see what happens when polite company decides to rejoin Steve.
Early on, it appears it was a legit way to do business. Trade free work for a prominent byline that may lead to something better. Greg Gutfeld was treading water until he started writing free stuff for the Huff Po, which lead to his Fox News show. Now that career path looks to have evaporated, and you get what you pay for.
People who are conservative politically, tend to be conservative in their personal lives. So righties who aren't getting paid tend to give it up after a while, or never even begin since there's no gold at the end of the rainbow. Lefties tend to be more zealous than Pentacostal preachers, and get more attaboys (girls) from their peers for essentially wasting their time writing drivel.
Steve is incredibly lucky he built a fanbase early on back when he was still published in mainstream places. Internet writing is a harsh mistress.
wonder if the half free content, half paid content method has been tried
seems to be working for now at TRS Radio
one of the keys might be when paid subscribers start talking about the paid content in the free articles comment section so the free content readers are enticed into subscribing
Forbes' vacuity has a long and inglorious history; witness Peter Brimelow's discussion of its gutless handling of "The Bell Curve's" publication.
By definition, Forbes, the glorifier of corporate America is an advocate of globalization and the enemy of productive white humanity.
Even is some gene sequences are common to different races, that does not make the differences negligible. It is the combination of shared sequences that makes a distinctive people.
Here is an illustration of the fallacy in their thinking:
Italian cooking uses wheat flour to make pasta. The French use flour to make baguettes. Mexicans use it to make burrito tortillas.
Italians use tomatoes to make spaghetti sauce. Mexicans make salsa.
Germans boil potatoes. Americans deep fry them.
The English roast beef, Americans grind it up and barbecue it.
Therefore, because they all use the same basic building blocks, it is misleading and a waste of time to speak of a distinctive Italian or French or Mexican or German or American cuisine.
That’s true, but most of what they would be exhaling would be air with some water vapor. A vape cloud is a little rain-cloud of water droplets that came right out of the person’s lungs. It’s like a million little bubble-gum flavored lung-swabs suspended in the air. I also wonder how many of those vapers are setting themselves up for serious lung infections too (bacterial or fungal) from unsterile E-cigs.
Perhaps that’s what they suspect they will do and they’re just projecting those suspicions on to everyone else.
"daughter of Sri Lankan immigrants"
First time it’s occurred to me that the function of the burqa (which I’d thought was to protect the woman wearing it) might be to protect the rest of us.
Considering that the liquid is probably heated well above bacteriocidal temperatures as part of the process, I’d guess “none of them”.
The vape droplets may be sterile going in, but they are cool and moist coming out of the lungs of a person vaping. How is breathing vape cloud different from a person sneezing on you?
Furthermore, for all its unpleasantness, cigarette smokers usually don’t disguise their activity in public places where smoking is permitted. Everytime I come across someone vaping, they are usually palming the device and trying to disguise what they are doing. Why the shame about this activity — from persons vaping?
Disclaimer: I have never smoked nor vaped.
"Race" is such a useless and inaccurate term and yet it's used effectively in medicine, forensics, government, etc., etc.
This is such a dumb tack I wonder what the point of it is. What's the point of all this obfuscation? To obscure race/IQ differences? You'd sound less stupid denying the reality of IQ. The average American runs into race a lot more frequently.
Soon these “journalists” will run out of sand to bury their heads in.
They seem to be willing to sell anyone out, destroy any culture or country, as long as they get Muh Tax Cuts!
Capitalism has always been Woke. Capitalism and liberalism are joined at the hip. Capitalism has done more than any other factor to destroy western civilisation. Capitalism has always been the enemy.
By the way, these cultural leftist causes are not leftist causes. They’re simply a means to advance the interests of the corporate sector. Cultural leftism or cultural marxism or whatever you choose to call it is a right-wing conspiracy, not a left-wing one.
The Church of England was always a joke. It only came into existence so Henry VIII could get into Anne Boleyn’s pants. Nobody could ever have taken such a church seriously. And nobody ever did. The Church of England has been post-Christian right from the start.
In fact most of those fine old English institutions have always been jokes. Like Parliament, the purpose of which is and always has been to ensure that the elites remain in charge and the people don’t get a say.
And of course the monarchy. England ceased to be a monarchy in any meaningful sense in 1689.
England is built on illusions.
You do realise that we live in a society in which most people believe that if a man puts on a frock he automatically becomes a woman?
Denial of race seems quite rational and level-headed by comparison.
And the SJWs won an overwhelming victory in World War T. You really think they’re going to have any trouble enforcing Social Justice orthodoxy on race?
Obviously the latter.
Nobody cares about facts or truth. Even scientists don’t care about truth if it might put their funding in jeopardy. Nobody believes facts because in every argument both sides claim that the facts are on their side. If it wasn’t obvious before this then the whole climate change thing has demonstrated conclusively that the truth is whatever the people with the Megaphone say it is.
Truth is what makes you feel good. Truth is whatever is advantageous for your special interest group. Everybody with a political agenda lies, and everyone has a political agenda.
This is a completely unwinnable argument. For Americans it would mean accepting that their whole society is built on a lie. That all men are not created equal. They ain’t gonna do that. It makes no difference what a handful of right-wing keyboard warriors want. It ain’t gonna happen. This is a handful of right-wingers wanting to fight a battle that is already lost before the first shot is fired.
In fact most of those fine old English institutions have always been jokes. Like Parliament, the purpose of which is and always has been to ensure that the elites remain in charge and the people don't get a say.
And of course the monarchy. England ceased to be a monarchy in any meaningful sense in 1689.
England is built on illusions.
Cranmer and Watts are Christian enough for me, and then some.
The English Reformation was much more than a politics-n-panties joke.
As are Ridley and Latimer.
The English Reformation was much more than a politics-n-panties joke.
I mean, from a Catholic perspective, we don't like Protestant "reformations" in general, but at least a few of them were sincere, while the highest deity of the CoE seems to just be the state.
The Kirk in Scotland is an actual Calvinist church. The CoE can't even decide if it's Protestant or not.
The answer to the first half of the first sentence is as follows:
(1) Jesus was the first monastic when he went into the desert for 40 days and 40 nights.
(2) Sola scriptura isn't in scripture. It is unscriptural.
I'll leave out what Cromwell did in Ireland because, if I didn't, that would be Irish Catholic chauvinism. Suffice it to say that he left behind a trail of destruction in England.
Sure there was a truly spiritual element in Anglicanism - inherited from Roman Catholicism.
Given the entire history of our species that’s not an unreasonable assumption. Things have not gone well for peoples who have been labelled as inferior. At let’s be honest, the entire point of HBD is to label certain peoples as inferior.
seems to be working for now at TRS Radio
one of the keys might be when paid subscribers start talking about the paid content in the free articles comment section so the free content readers are enticed into subscribing
Not sure as to the extent of that. I was hoping years back that the micro payment model would work, but apparently it hasn’t. It’s a shame, because unless you have the ball rolling, or break out as a name somehow, you can get 50k readers a month and still not come close to make a living. With all of the millions upon millions of people on the net, serious writers (I mean non-listicle, non-clickbait types) are few and far between.
The droplets didn’t come from anyone’s lungs; they are no different than dust particles that someone inhales and exhales again.
Trying to avoid disapproval from people like you. This is despite the generally innocuous character of vape liquid. Cigarette smoke contains toxics like benzopyrene and acrolein; vape liquid has none of those things.
Disclaimer: I have never smoked nor vaped.
The English Reformation was much more than a politics-n-panties joke.
But what did it produce?
I mean, from a Catholic perspective, we don’t like Protestant “reformations” in general, but at least a few of them were sincere, while the highest deity of the CoE seems to just be the state.
The Kirk in Scotland is an actual Calvinist church. The CoE can’t even decide if it’s Protestant or not.
The rest of you are just visiting.
I mean, from a Catholic perspective, we don't like Protestant "reformations" in general, but at least a few of them were sincere, while the highest deity of the CoE seems to just be the state.
The Kirk in Scotland is an actual Calvinist church. The CoE can't even decide if it's Protestant or not.
The King James Bible.
The rest of you are just visiting.
Labeling people is it even a tiny portion of HBD.
That is the entire appeal of HBD.
HBD is science the way climate science is science. In other words the scientific content or scientific plausibility of the theory is irrelevant. HBDers believe in HBD for the same reason that environmentalist loonies believe in climate change. It's what they want to believe.
There may or may not be some correspondence between these theories and reality but any such correspondence is irrelevant. It is faith-based belief.
The English Reformation was much more than a politics-n-panties joke.
The Protestant theological notion that religious orders are unbiblical, and therefore never should have been instituted in the first place, and should be suppressed, was the occasion for many wealthy Britons buying up monastic land at fire sale prices. This happened in some German principalities as well.
The answer to the first half of the first sentence is as follows:
(1) Jesus was the first monastic when he went into the desert for 40 days and 40 nights.
(2) Sola scriptura isn’t in scripture. It is unscriptural.
I’ll leave out what Cromwell did in Ireland because, if I didn’t, that would be Irish Catholic chauvinism. Suffice it to say that he left behind a trail of destruction in England.
Sure there was a truly spiritual element in Anglicanism – inherited from Roman Catholicism.
Henry VIII got what he wanted - he got into Anne Boleyn's pants.
That's the English Reformation.
The rest of you are just visiting.
So you’re defending your branch of Christianity with a line from a Mob movie.
I think that was a joke (???); I mean, you can’t really visit the Bible in any meaningful sense and “the rest of you are just reading” sounds rather silly.
HBD is, like blank slatism, a political ideology. It appeals to people who want to believe that they belong to a superior caste. And they want justification for despising those who (in their opinion) do not qualify as members of that superior caste.
That is the entire appeal of HBD.
HBD is science the way climate science is science. In other words the scientific content or scientific plausibility of the theory is irrelevant. HBDers believe in HBD for the same reason that environmentalist loonies believe in climate change. It’s what they want to believe.
There may or may not be some correspondence between these theories and reality but any such correspondence is irrelevant. It is faith-based belief.
The answer to the first half of the first sentence is as follows:
(1) Jesus was the first monastic when he went into the desert for 40 days and 40 nights.
(2) Sola scriptura isn't in scripture. It is unscriptural.
I'll leave out what Cromwell did in Ireland because, if I didn't, that would be Irish Catholic chauvinism. Suffice it to say that he left behind a trail of destruction in England.
Sure there was a truly spiritual element in Anglicanism - inherited from Roman Catholicism.
Yep. They got what they wanted, which was to loot the Church.
Henry VIII got what he wanted – he got into Anne Boleyn’s pants.
That’s the English Reformation.
It’s not a mob movie. I’m playing offense.
The answer to the first half of the first sentence is as follows:
(1) Jesus was the first monastic when he went into the desert for 40 days and 40 nights.
(2) Sola scriptura isn't in scripture. It is unscriptural.
I'll leave out what Cromwell did in Ireland because, if I didn't, that would be Irish Catholic chauvinism. Suffice it to say that he left behind a trail of destruction in England.
Sure there was a truly spiritual element in Anglicanism - inherited from Roman Catholicism.
That’s nice.
The KJV and Shakespeare are the wellsprings of British cum American culture. Defend yourselves however you like. We’re the home team on this soil until you knock us off.
I’m all for reconciliation, but not under this joke of a Pope.
Henry VIII got what he wanted - he got into Anne Boleyn's pants.
That's the English Reformation.
As if. The monasteries of that age had about as much to do with the Body of Christ as today’s universities have to do with the Liberal Arts or Higher Education. The latter deserve the fate of the former.
Henry VIII got what he wanted - he got into Anne Boleyn's pants.
That's the English Reformation.
So the Protestants killed fast or slowly for their beliefs were just useful idiots, but Catholic victims of Protestant persecution were true Christian martyrs?
I thought the line came from a Mob movie; and that you might have got it third hand. “The Irish have their homeland. The Italians have… (maybe cooking)… The Jews have (also a homeland, Israel?) What do you have?” (and I’m sure of this one) “The United States of America. The rest of you are just visiting.” (Spoken by a Senator, I thought.)
OK, here it is, CIA, not mob:
Joseph Palmi: We Italians, we got our families and we got the church. The Irish, they have the homeland. The Jews, their traditions. Even the [black people], they got their music. What about you people Mr. Wilson, what do you have?
Edward: The United States of America, the rest of you are just visiting.
From The Good Shepard, directed by Robert De Niro, Matt Damon as Edward Wilson, Joe Pesci as Joseph Palmi.
Reference: Wikiquotes
The Catholic Church was corrupt; the Protestants threw out the baby with the bath water, theologically speaking. The whole thing was a tragedy.
There is a continuing competition for home team status.
Good luck with that. Probably should do something about that NAMBLA priesthood before stepping up to that plate.
Close enough for government work.
Heh.
Good luck with that. Probably should do something about that NAMBLA priesthood before stepping up to that plate.
Ecclesiastically speaking yes, I’ll buy that. Theologically who’s to say? Wojtyla works for me.
That is the entire appeal of HBD.
HBD is science the way climate science is science. In other words the scientific content or scientific plausibility of the theory is irrelevant. HBDers believe in HBD for the same reason that environmentalist loonies believe in climate change. It's what they want to believe.
There may or may not be some correspondence between these theories and reality but any such correspondence is irrelevant. It is faith-based belief.
Apologies for the language, but BULLSHIT. HBD is firmly backed by a host of physical evidence, from measurements of bone and muscle to DNA. DNA evidence can not only pinpoint the race of the subject, but can provide a guide to facial and other features as well. HBD was THE reigning paradigm until the subversion of anthropology by (((Franz Boas))) and his disciples, and it is returning because the Boasian claims have failed to explain the facts on the ground.
Superior, for what? Bantus can live in the fever swamps of West Africa; I cannot. People like me can build an advanced civilization; Bantus cannot, and have failed to even maintain civilization when gifted with it. Before you ask about superiority, ask what purpose someone is supposedly superior for.
Human variation is obviously real. Variation between populations is real. Human behaviour and human intelligence are however even more infinitely complex than climate. To suggest that we have any real scientific understanding of how human behaviour and human intelligence work is pure fantasy.
HBD is therefore political ideology. HBDers believe in HBD because they want to. It makes them feel better about the fact that their civilisation is going down the toilet.I think you just proved my point.
Climate is real, but climate science is political ideology. The climate might change. In fact it does change. But to believe in AGW is to believe in a political ideology. There’s some scientific evidence to support AGW and there’s some that doesn’t support it. We don’t know the answer because climate is almost infinitely complex. AGW believers believe in AGW as a matter of faith. It makes them feel better.
Human variation is obviously real. Variation between populations is real. Human behaviour and human intelligence are however even more infinitely complex than climate. To suggest that we have any real scientific understanding of how human behaviour and human intelligence work is pure fantasy.
HBD is therefore political ideology. HBDers believe in HBD because they want to. It makes them feel better about the fact that their civilisation is going down the toilet.
I think you just proved my point.
And the study and simulation of why and how it changes IS climate science.
Oh, FFS. LISTEN TO YOURSELF! Better yet, go back and read some scientific history. Read about George Callender, Svante Arrhenius and Samuel Langley.
Work the Boltzman equation backwards from insolation and albedo to calculate what Earth’s surface temperature “ought to be”. Langley and others did this calculation too, a century and a half ago and deduced that something insulated the Earth and slowed the loss of heat to space. Langley measured this directly, capturing the downward re-radiation of heat from the atmosphere to the surface. Arrhenius first calculated the effect of increasing CO2 on this insulating effect.
THAT is science.
There was exactly nothing political about it until the 1980’s, when it looked like somebody might actually DO something about it. That got big-money interests involved, just as they had gotten behind the anti-nuclear movement when it looked like uranium would replace coal. You can see their fingerprints if you know where to look.
So you advocate tampering with things that YOU claim cannot be understood, but YOU are nevertheless certain that nothing bad is going to happen as a consequence.
Sheer contradiction. LISTEN TO YOURSELF!
Wrong. HBD explains a host of things, including one of the mechanisms of civilizational collapse. HBD explains why social development went in radically different directions (including nowhere) in different hominid populations. HBD helps inform us of what to do to stop the process of collapse.
Just because facts have political implications does not make them any less factual. Either disprove what I said or stipulate to it.
O’Sullivan’s law