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Or, then again, judging from Afghanistan, maybe they are.

From the New York Times:

Journey From Class Clown to Suspect in Chelsea Bombing

By KIM BARKER, PIR ZUBAIR SHAH, JOSEPH GOLDSTEIN and JESSICA SILVER-GREENBERGSEPT. 24, 2016

If there was one child Mohammad Rahami had to worry about bringing shame upon the family, it was Ahmad. In the fifth grade, his teacher complained to Mr. Rahami that Ahmad acted like a king in class. In junior high, he broke a friend’s nose. Even worse was high school — after Mr. Rahami arranged for Ahmad to marry a good Afghan girl from Kabul, Ahmad dated a Dominican girl, getting her pregnant in his senior year. …

There’s no mention in the article of how closely related Rahami’s arranged bride might be to him, but arranged marriages for the purpose of getting a visa are often done within an extended family.

“They’re savages here, one and all. Leave ’em to go back to slaughterin’ babes, and playin’ stickball with each other’s heads, and pissin’ on their neighbors.”

A survey of Pashtuns in Afghanistan in 2010 found that 43% of married couples are first or second cousins. Another survey in 2011 of Pashtuns in the south and west of Afghanistan found 50% of couples were cousins.

Ahmad finally married his fiancée on a three-month trip to Pakistan in 2011. But the next year, he was fighting with his ex-girlfriend in court. He was slapped with a restraining order — it was not clear by whom — and jailed for violating it eight days later. …

Only now, he was angry and erratic. His wife, Asia Bibi Rahami, had just given birth to their son but was having trouble getting a visa to come to the United States. When Ahmad showed up at the local congressman’s office to ask for help, he was gruff and abrupt, asking the office to mail a letter to Islamabad demanding to know why it was taking so long.

One day in August, he stabbed his brother, his sister and his mother; none of the injuries were grievous, but still. …

Ahmad’s wife eventually made it to the United States.

So there’s a happy ending …

 
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  1. Judging by the actions of Dylan Roof and others we need to lock up all white men. Obviously such a dangerous group of people cannot be trusted with freedom

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @Tiny Duck

    Didn't you once write that you're a white man yourself?

    , @Warner
    @Tiny Duck

    Judging by the actions of Chicago, we should mass incarcerate black men. Good points as always, Little Dick!

    , @iSteveFan
    @Tiny Duck

    How about segregating whites from the rest? Make whites live in their own communities, attend their own schools, work in their own businesses, etc.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Mark Eugenikos
    @Tiny Duck

    You go first, bro! We'll even let you pick a prison on your own.

    , @ic1000
    @Tiny Duck

    Stronger Together

    ;-)

  2. seriously, I give up. wtf is wrong with us?

    • Replies: @Olorin
    @Anonymous

    Letting women's emotions run men's institutions.

  3. Ahmad Khan Rahami got his Dominican girlfriend pregnant? In other contexts he would look like a success story for our nation’s white-dispossession project, turning the alleged “Americans” in the remainder of this century into haphazard products of miscegenation, a political jurisdiction (no longer a “nation”) full of lost children who have no roots, heritage or organic social bonds.

    BTW, Steve, as a follow up to your post the other day on what Google thinks “American inventors” means, what do you make of the results for Googling for images of “European people art”?

  4. Westernization leads to radicalization fairly rapidly, so these sort of stories shouldn’t stand out as an unqualified surprise to anyone.

  5. They’re Not Sending Their Best

    His old man owned a successful fried chicken place. Of course it was probably staffed with illegal aliens from Afghanistan, some possibly slaves.

    What Happens When Yelp Restaurant Reviews Turn Political?

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/09/22/494935022/what-happens-when-yelp-restaurant-reviews-turn-political

  6. A survey of Pashtuns in Afghanistan in 2010 found that 43% of married couples are first or second cousins. Another survey in 2011 of Pashtuns in the south and west of Afghanistan found 50% of couples were cousins.

    When you see these numbers, remember the dysgenic effect of inbreeding at such high level multiplies each generation. How long have they been up to this?

    • Replies: @Kaz
    @Lot

    Since the Soviet Invasion I'd say. All their local social networks were broken up during that time so the only people you end up knowing for marriage sake is close family.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Lurker

    , @rec1man
    @Lot

    Pashtuns used to be Hindus, until 1000 years ago, and among North Indian Hindus, on the maternal side, it is banned to marry closer than 3rd cousin and among paternal side, banned to marry closer than 5th cousin

    So the Pashtuns have had 1000 years of islam and islamic inbreeding

    , @Fredrik
    @Lot

    This is also why I dispute what Steve wrote about them doing this for visa purposes.

    Marrying cousins(meaning the children of brothers) is what they do. Don't be surprised if other cousin combinations are a significant part of the non-cousin marriages.

  7. @Lot

    A survey of Pashtuns in Afghanistan in 2010 found that 43% of married couples are first or second cousins. Another survey in 2011 of Pashtuns in the south and west of Afghanistan found 50% of couples were cousins.
     
    When you see these numbers, remember the dysgenic effect of inbreeding at such high level multiplies each generation. How long have they been up to this?

    Replies: @Kaz, @rec1man, @Fredrik

    Since the Soviet Invasion I’d say. All their local social networks were broken up during that time so the only people you end up knowing for marriage sake is close family.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Kaz

    Really? The Soviet invasion was 2000 years ago?

    Replies: @Kaz

    , @Lurker
    @Kaz

    I suspect it's been going on a lot longer than that.

    This sounds a bit like a kvetch I hear from Indian chauvinists - that the caste system is really a British imposition. Before the Brits arrived everyone was marrying everyone else and caste didn't really matter.

  8. >KIM BARKER<

    that's about the right tone for the nyt these days

  9. When Ahmad showed up at the local congressman’s office to ask for help, he was gruff and abrupt, asking the office to mail a letter to Islamabad demanding to know why it was taking so long.

    He’s lucky his congressman happened to be the Muslim-loving Bill Pascrell. If it had been Steve Rothman he probably would have gotten the cops called on his ass.

  10. Don’t expect Liberals to make incest jokes about Afghanis and other Muslims anytime soon like they do with Whites from Louisiana, West Virginia, Alabama, Georgia, etc even though the former is way more likely to engage in incest sex than the latter. It’s a hate fact.

    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    @Jefferson

    First cousin marriage is banned in Louisiana, West Virginia, Kentucky, Arkansas and it is a criminal offense in Texas and Oklahoma. Of course it is legal in all of the enlightened, progressive Northeast, except for New Hampshire.

    Judging from the people I have seen from Connecticut, New York and Massachusetts incest must run wild up there.

  11. It’s very simple; no one named Mohammad (or any variation) gets admitted into our country. For admissions purposes, Mohammad equals NO!-hammad.

    • Agree: 415 reasons
    • Replies: @Clyde
    @fredyetagain aka superhonky


    It’s very simple; no one named Mohammad (or any variation) gets admitted into our country.
     
    Agree and these are the Mohamed variations according to wikedpedia:
    4.1 Mohamad
    4.2 Mohamed
    4.3 Mohammad
    4.4 Mohammed
    4.5 Muhamad
    4.6 Muhamed
    4.7 Muhammad
    4.8 Muhammed
    4.9 Muhammet

    I would add Ahmed, Achmed and Mahmoud. There must be others
  12. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Do you think there is even a good class of people from Afghanistan ??. I mean really , do you think that even the best people that Afghanistan has to offer are people that would be an asset to any country that they may immigrate to ??

    This is a country with a mean IQ in the 80’s. This is a country with institutionalized and culturally accepted child rape. Bacha Bazzi ( boy play ) which is forced sodomy on makeup clad pre pubescent boys perpetrated by grown men. It is an entrenched and accepted part of the culture. Throw in the consanguineous marriage culture and you have the most degraded genetics in the world , maybe matched by Pakistan .

    This is also a culture of violence . I believe the overt homophobia and extreme violence toward gays ( Omar Mateen ) is a result of the embarrassment and ashamedness of being the victims of bacha bazzi as children and the perpatrators as adults. Add Islam to the mix and you could scarcely create a more frightening monster if you tried. Its a poster for who not to allow in your country.

    Here is an article about the Taliban luring Afghan soldiers using bacha bazzi honey pots.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-taliban-use-honey-trap-boys-to-kill-afghan-police-2016-6

    • Agree: AndrewR, Jim Don Bob
    • Replies: @eD
    @anon

    Afghanistan is obviously a mess now, but in the past the people living there had their act together enough to conquer and rule much of India. They also had some cities that were legitimate centers of culture.

    It was something of a crossroads and one of the world's more homogenous places genetically. Alexander the Great settled many of his soldiers there.

    It was another place that was ruined by the Mongols. Its also a lesson on how you can overdo this genetic stuff. It changed from a pretty civilized place to something sub-civilized, without the composition of the population changing much.

    Replies: @ogunsiron

    , @ATX Hipster
    @anon

    About half the people I've tried to explain Bacha Bazzi to have accused me of lying to try to defame Islam. The others are in disbelief that the media doesn't talk about it. It's interesting the degree to which that charming quirk of their culture is common knowledge among military personnel but either unknown or ignored by the rest of the country.

    Most guys that go to the Middle East probably don't know what "dysgenic" means, but they understand it by the time they come back. Like atheists in foxholes, there are no race denialists in Afghanistan.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @anon

    Even the most backward countries can usually produce a handful of cosmopolitan emigres erudite enough to encourage America to intervene disastrously in their home countries. Zalmay Khalilzad of Afghanistan, Ahmed Chalabi of Iraq, etc.

    , @AndrewR
    @anon

    I doubt Somalians are any better. If I had to choose I'd take Afghanis because they're a lot whiter.

    And say what you want about the Taliban but at least they banned bachi bazi.

    Replies: @BB753, @Lot, @Jefferson, @DCThrowback

  13. If there were ever a time to try out chain deportation…

    • Replies: @Anonym
    @vinny

    If there were ever a time to try out chain deportation…

    I'm picturing that scene from Amistad...

  14. @Lot

    A survey of Pashtuns in Afghanistan in 2010 found that 43% of married couples are first or second cousins. Another survey in 2011 of Pashtuns in the south and west of Afghanistan found 50% of couples were cousins.
     
    When you see these numbers, remember the dysgenic effect of inbreeding at such high level multiplies each generation. How long have they been up to this?

    Replies: @Kaz, @rec1man, @Fredrik

    Pashtuns used to be Hindus, until 1000 years ago, and among North Indian Hindus, on the maternal side, it is banned to marry closer than 3rd cousin and among paternal side, banned to marry closer than 5th cousin

    So the Pashtuns have had 1000 years of islam and islamic inbreeding

  15. @vinny
    If there were ever a time to try out chain deportation...

    Replies: @Anonym

    If there were ever a time to try out chain deportation…

    I’m picturing that scene from Amistad…

  16. @Tiny Duck
    Judging by the actions of Dylan Roof and others we need to lock up all white men. Obviously such a dangerous group of people cannot be trusted with freedom

    Replies: @German_reader, @Warner, @iSteveFan, @Mark Eugenikos, @ic1000

    Didn’t you once write that you’re a white man yourself?

  17. OT but…..

    Does anyone know what Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell actually do in life?
    I’ve heard they are important and powerful politicians in Washington DC.
    Does anyone have more information?

    • Replies: @Trelane
    @antipater_1

    Paul Ryan has a degree in nothing from the university of nowhere (economics/Miami University in Ohio). He has little or no personal history applicable to his career. Occupationally, Ryan is a life-long politician with no experience in the real world.

    Mitch McConnell also has a degree in nothing from the university of nowhere (history/U. Louisville Ky). Similarly he has little or no personal history and has no experience occuationally except only as a crooked politician.

    If either of these guys was applying for a job at Autozone or Walmart they'd likely be rejected for having no verifyable recent work history, no experience and no applicable job skills.

    Replies: @newrouter, @Triumph104

    , @Neil Templeton
    @antipater_1

    Yes Antipater, they are important and powerful politicians. They are working very hard for your interests, because you are an American. They accept very large amounts of money in donations from other people, but your interests are first in their minds. After all, a true statesman is not concerned with money or the private interests of his donors, but only with the present and future health of the state and its citizens. Of course, If you would be willing to pay $500 for a breakfast of pancakes, I'm sure Paul and Mitch would be very excited to share their plans for the future with you in more detail. Your interests would be even more interesting to them if you were willing to pay $1,000 for a buffet dinner, or $5,000 for an evening of fine food, conservative conversation, and entertainment. If you could pony up, say, $5 million, they might even be willing to sponsor an immigration reform bill. But even if you have nothing to give, they are more than willing to provide you access to unlimited hours of speechifying, moralizing, and all American wholesale discount price warehouse unlimited liquidation of everything you once thought you had title to.

    , @S. Anonyia
    @antipater_1

    Paul Ryan is a trophy husband for an oil heiress.

  18. “Judging by the actions of Dylan Roof and others we need to lock up all white men. “

    Who is “we”?

  19. OT again but….

    The eyes, just look at the eyes in these two images. Insanity abounds!

    If you have forgotten old Herf Applewhite, just Google him!

    • Replies: @AKAHorace
    @antipater_1

    Look, if Donald Trump was in a wheelchair and Hillary Clinton was running marathons you would still vote for Trump. And in the reverse case Democrats would still vote for Clinton. This is an ideleogical election not about the health, income tax or relationship information about either candidate.

    Replies: @LondonBob

  20. Yet another Enemedia-Pravda piece peddling the “lone wolf” – aka, “just one bad apple” – myth about Islam (but never about “right-wing extremists” whose entire cohort of “deplorables” is, of course, fully responsible for All The World’s Evils), with just the right addition of hints from the same vein as all the Victim Grievance-Shakedown Industrialists and their Goodwhite apologists blaming external factors for every failure, every anti-social act and crime of non-whites and foreigners.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Auntie Analogue

    It takes a wolfpack to raise a 'lone wolf.'

  21. @anon
    Do you think there is even a good class of people from Afghanistan ??. I mean really , do you think that even the best people that Afghanistan has to offer are people that would be an asset to any country that they may immigrate to ??

    This is a country with a mean IQ in the 80's. This is a country with institutionalized and culturally accepted child rape. Bacha Bazzi ( boy play ) which is forced sodomy on makeup clad pre pubescent boys perpetrated by grown men. It is an entrenched and accepted part of the culture. Throw in the consanguineous marriage culture and you have the most degraded genetics in the world , maybe matched by Pakistan .

    This is also a culture of violence . I believe the overt homophobia and extreme violence toward gays ( Omar Mateen ) is a result of the embarrassment and ashamedness of being the victims of bacha bazzi as children and the perpatrators as adults. Add Islam to the mix and you could scarcely create a more frightening monster if you tried. Its a poster for who not to allow in your country.

    Here is an article about the Taliban luring Afghan soldiers using bacha bazzi honey pots.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-taliban-use-honey-trap-boys-to-kill-afghan-police-2016-6

    Replies: @eD, @ATX Hipster, @Dave Pinsen, @AndrewR

    Afghanistan is obviously a mess now, but in the past the people living there had their act together enough to conquer and rule much of India. They also had some cities that were legitimate centers of culture.

    It was something of a crossroads and one of the world’s more homogenous places genetically. Alexander the Great settled many of his soldiers there.

    It was another place that was ruined by the Mongols. Its also a lesson on how you can overdo this genetic stuff. It changed from a pretty civilized place to something sub-civilized, without the composition of the population changing much.

    • Replies: @ogunsiron
    @eD

    The inbreeding in some of those muslim countries is so extreme that it could probably "take down" pretty high quality people and turn them into genetic refuse in a few centuries. When cousin marriage is traditional in a given society, marrying your 1st degree cousin is even worse than it sounds. When you marry your 1st degree cousin you're marrying someone that might as well be a sibling.

  22. @Tiny Duck
    Judging by the actions of Dylan Roof and others we need to lock up all white men. Obviously such a dangerous group of people cannot be trusted with freedom

    Replies: @German_reader, @Warner, @iSteveFan, @Mark Eugenikos, @ic1000

    Judging by the actions of Chicago, we should mass incarcerate black men. Good points as always, Little Dick!

  23. There’s no mention in the article of how closely related Rahami’s arranged bride might be to him, but arranged marriages for the purpose of getting a visa are often done within an extended family.

    Pakistanis have this down to a science in the UK and plenty of money changes hands when an Afghani or Pakistani bride or groom is imported into America/UK/etc. This imported spouse represents a foothold for other family members to legally immigrate to a civilized infidel nation where they can run their convenience store food stamp scams and fried chicken joints. This has high monetary value in the Muslim third world as Americans remain oblivious as the termites are gnawing way.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Clyde

    As an earlier correspondent wrote, it is likely that each and every Pakistani settled in the UK for a good period of time, say roughly 40 years or so, is directly responsible for bringing in something between 10 and 100 other Pakistanis. Some authorities put it as high as the latter.
    Anyhow, this is exponential growth on steroids, as each imported Pakistani is certain to do likewise, ad infinitum. Therefore, you can guarantee an enormous Pakistani population, numbering in the tens of millions, in the UK, by year 2100. Also you can guarantee permanent Corbyn-style Labour Party rule, despite all the guff you might read about the Labour Party being finished.

    The same scenario will unfold with the Pashtuns- but Germany and the USA are the main targets.
    Sub-cons have a real talent for sniffing out the utter damned stupidity of white leaderships - and once they've found a weakness, for exploiting that weakness to the utmost hilt.
    Also, they are very very adept at bribing officials.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Lurker

  24. @eD
    @anon

    Afghanistan is obviously a mess now, but in the past the people living there had their act together enough to conquer and rule much of India. They also had some cities that were legitimate centers of culture.

    It was something of a crossroads and one of the world's more homogenous places genetically. Alexander the Great settled many of his soldiers there.

    It was another place that was ruined by the Mongols. Its also a lesson on how you can overdo this genetic stuff. It changed from a pretty civilized place to something sub-civilized, without the composition of the population changing much.

    Replies: @ogunsiron

    The inbreeding in some of those muslim countries is so extreme that it could probably “take down” pretty high quality people and turn them into genetic refuse in a few centuries. When cousin marriage is traditional in a given society, marrying your 1st degree cousin is even worse than it sounds. When you marry your 1st degree cousin you’re marrying someone that might as well be a sibling.

  25. @antipater_1
    OT but.....

    Does anyone know what Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell actually do in life?
    I've heard they are important and powerful politicians in Washington DC.
    Does anyone have more information?

    Replies: @Trelane, @Neil Templeton, @S. Anonyia

    Paul Ryan has a degree in nothing from the university of nowhere (economics/Miami University in Ohio). He has little or no personal history applicable to his career. Occupationally, Ryan is a life-long politician with no experience in the real world.

    Mitch McConnell also has a degree in nothing from the university of nowhere (history/U. Louisville Ky). Similarly he has little or no personal history and has no experience occuationally except only as a crooked politician.

    If either of these guys was applying for a job at Autozone or Walmart they’d likely be rejected for having no verifyable recent work history, no experience and no applicable job skills.

    • Replies: @newrouter
    @Trelane

    >Mitch McConnell also has a degree in nothing from the university of nowhere (history/U. Louisville Ky)<


    _This view is further strengthened by the fact that at the time the first Congress convened there were no
    majority leaders in the House or Senate since there were no organized political parties. The offices of
    minority and majority leaders were not officially created until 1921 for the Democrats and 1925 for the
    Republicans. Their primary political responsibility was to maintain party discipline. To do this they relied on
    their leadership skills and the power of persuasion.

    These positions were created by political parties, not the Founders. Constitutionally, the office of President
    of the Senate is analogous to the office of Speaker in the House of Representatives. While the Constitution
    gives both houses of congress the power to add any officers they deem necessary it does not authorize
    those officers to usurp the authority of those created by the Constitution.

    In the 111th Congress Steny Hoyer is the Democratic majority leader in the house and John Boehner is the
    Republican minority leader. Nancy Pelosi fills the Constitutional office, Speaker of the House. In the
    Senate, Harry Reid is the Democratic Majority Leader and Mitch McConnell is the Republican minority
    leader. Since Vice Presidents, by custom, neglect to fulfill their Constitutional duties as President of the
    Senate, that power is usurped by the Majority Leader.

    Until the American people wake up and demand the Vice President carries out his constitutional duties, the
    Senate will continue to operate without a constitutional executive officer as its leader. The office of Senate
    Majority Leader is extra-constitutional. The dictatorial power it has assumed over the Senate is also a very
    real threat to the future of the nation._

    http://illinoisconservative.com/t-pres-of-senate.html

    , @Triumph104
    @Trelane


    Mitch McConnell also has a degree in nothing from the university of nowhere (history/U. Louisville Ky).
     
    John Deasy received a PhD in education one semester after he started at the University of Louisville. Dr. John Deasy went on to work for the Gates Foundation and later became superintendent of Los Angeles Unified School District where he ill-fatedly purchased a billion dollars worth of Apple iPads. He is now building juvenile prisons.

    The former Dean of Education at Louisville was later sentenced to 63 months in prison for fraud against Louisville and other universities.

    http://www.substancenews.net/articles.php?page=1896
    http://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-deasy-juvenile-prison-reform-20160726-snap-story.html
  26. The shooter in Washington state is Arcan Cetin. 20-year old originally from Turkey.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    This can't be right. All the press reports said that it was a Hispanic or Latino man, not a Muslim.

    Replies: @snorlax, @res, @S. Anonyia, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    , @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    The Rahimi's and their 8 children were just what America needed. Who would bring fried chicken to the ghettos of the Northeast if not for them? Who would shoplift from Filene's if not for his daughters (the Tsarnaevs women also had arrests for shoplifting, etc.) ? Who would stiff Macy's for $46,000 if not for them? Who would cheat on their taxes and claim to make only $1,400/month while owning a restaurant if not for them? Who would serve as a baby daddy and not pay child support if not for them? If Mama Rahimi was not arrested for child abuse, how could we maintain full employment in the prison/social work industry?

    Long before Ahmad starting leaving pressure cooker bombs around the NY metro area, it was clear that once again America was enriched by the Rahimi clan and their authentic Afghan style fried chicken.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Thomas O. Meehan

    , @The Alarmist
    @Anonymous


    "The shooter in Washington state is Arcan Cetin. 20-year old originally from Turkey."
     
    But for some strange reason, CNN felt it was important to emphasize that he was a lawful permanent resident.

    If that is indeed an important fact, it neatly underscores that legal immigration from some parts of the world needs to also be given further scrutiny and brought to an end.

    Replies: @Jack D

  27. @Tiny Duck
    Judging by the actions of Dylan Roof and others we need to lock up all white men. Obviously such a dangerous group of people cannot be trusted with freedom

    Replies: @German_reader, @Warner, @iSteveFan, @Mark Eugenikos, @ic1000

    How about segregating whites from the rest? Make whites live in their own communities, attend their own schools, work in their own businesses, etc.

    • LOL: ATX Hipster
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @iSteveFan

    Please don't throw me in the briar patch, Brer Fox!

  28. Rayquan Borum arrested in shooting of fellow rioter in Charlotte. Doesn’t “Rayquan Borum” sound like the name of someone in a Star Wars movie? Are those grills still in fashion?

    http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines-2016/suspect-in-charlotte-protest-murder-identified-oh-look-hes

  29. @Trelane
    @antipater_1

    Paul Ryan has a degree in nothing from the university of nowhere (economics/Miami University in Ohio). He has little or no personal history applicable to his career. Occupationally, Ryan is a life-long politician with no experience in the real world.

    Mitch McConnell also has a degree in nothing from the university of nowhere (history/U. Louisville Ky). Similarly he has little or no personal history and has no experience occuationally except only as a crooked politician.

    If either of these guys was applying for a job at Autozone or Walmart they'd likely be rejected for having no verifyable recent work history, no experience and no applicable job skills.

    Replies: @newrouter, @Triumph104

    >Mitch McConnell also has a degree in nothing from the university of nowhere (history/U. Louisville Ky)<

    _This view is further strengthened by the fact that at the time the first Congress convened there were no
    majority leaders in the House or Senate since there were no organized political parties. The offices of
    minority and majority leaders were not officially created until 1921 for the Democrats and 1925 for the
    Republicans. Their primary political responsibility was to maintain party discipline. To do this they relied on
    their leadership skills and the power of persuasion.

    These positions were created by political parties, not the Founders. Constitutionally, the office of President
    of the Senate is analogous to the office of Speaker in the House of Representatives. While the Constitution
    gives both houses of congress the power to add any officers they deem necessary it does not authorize
    those officers to usurp the authority of those created by the Constitution.

    In the 111th Congress Steny Hoyer is the Democratic majority leader in the house and John Boehner is the
    Republican minority leader. Nancy Pelosi fills the Constitutional office, Speaker of the House. In the
    Senate, Harry Reid is the Democratic Majority Leader and Mitch McConnell is the Republican minority
    leader. Since Vice Presidents, by custom, neglect to fulfill their Constitutional duties as President of the
    Senate, that power is usurped by the Majority Leader.

    Until the American people wake up and demand the Vice President carries out his constitutional duties, the
    Senate will continue to operate without a constitutional executive officer as its leader. The office of Senate
    Majority Leader is extra-constitutional. The dictatorial power it has assumed over the Senate is also a very
    real threat to the future of the nation._

    http://illinoisconservative.com/t-pres-of-senate.html

  30. “They’re not sending us their best…”

    Are we sure?

    This may be one of those rare cases in which cynics & optimists could agree… that “they actually ARE sending us their best.”

    • Replies: @Bugg
    @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta

    Hard to get a subset of high quality when the entire Venn Diagram is inbred dreck.

  31. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Multiple generations of cousin marriage is THE issue with Jews (of the past) and Muslims (still).

    Derb has an article on this site right now about Jewish paranoia. Muslim paranoia is even worse.

    Cousin marriage aka inbreeding causes the human brain to sizzle like a grease fire. Hillbillies are famous for these same traits the world over: paranoia, uncontrolled anger, aggression.

    The levantine (semitic) cultures are clan based, cousin marrying. You can’t fix anything in the Middle East without ending this lunacy.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    While it is true that Judaism allows cousin marriage, I don't get the feeling that it was all that common among Ashkenazi Jews. Jews were more influenced by the laws and customs of the places that they lived than you might imagine. Jews living in Christendom adopted monogamy even though Jewish law originally permitted multiple wives. For one thing, if you did something that was permitted by Jewish law but not by the civil law of the country in which you lived, you could end up being punished.

    Cousin marriage is not usually associated with high intelligence, or if it can be, then the conventional wisdom of cousin marriage being a really bad thing is wrong. Or maybe it depends on who the cousins are to begin with. If the cousins are both violent tribesmen then you get extra violent tribesmen, but if they are both scholarly types then you get extra scholarly offspring. Jews do show some signs of inbreeding in terms of having strange genetic diseases - these diseases tend to be neurological and may be of the type where if you get one copy of the gene it's good (for intelligence) but two copies are bad.

    Replies: @Ivy

  32. @Anonymous
    The shooter in Washington state is Arcan Cetin. 20-year old originally from Turkey.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jack D, @The Alarmist

    This can’t be right. All the press reports said that it was a Hispanic or Latino man, not a Muslim.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @Jack D

    In fairness, he's very Hispanic in appearance. Also seems to be semi-retarded and/or speaks very little English, judging by his social media postings.

    Replies: @Marty

    , @res
    @Jack D


    This can’t be right. All the press reports said that it was a Hispanic or Latino man, not a Muslim.
     
    Funny how that works. Trump is the first to say something which turns out to be correct and he is "jumping to conclusions" while the media clowns and establishment politicians pump out misleading and/or incorrect attempts at early shaping of the narrative day after day and are seldom if ever held to account (in the mass media anyway, fortunately we have iSteve).
    , @S. Anonyia
    @Jack D

    Has the press even bothered to correct their mistake? Doesn't look like it, I guess they want people to keep thinking he was hispanic.

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Jack D

    Are you sure his name isn't Haven Monahan?

  33. @Kaz
    @Lot

    Since the Soviet Invasion I'd say. All their local social networks were broken up during that time so the only people you end up knowing for marriage sake is close family.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Lurker

    Really? The Soviet invasion was 2000 years ago?

    • Replies: @Kaz
    @Alfa158

    You act like Afghanistan was a complete mess before it was involved in the cold war nonsense. It wasn't completely developed but it was taking the right steps.

    Replies: @anon, @Parbes

  34. @Anonymous
    The shooter in Washington state is Arcan Cetin. 20-year old originally from Turkey.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jack D, @The Alarmist

    The Rahimi’s and their 8 children were just what America needed. Who would bring fried chicken to the ghettos of the Northeast if not for them? Who would shoplift from Filene’s if not for his daughters (the Tsarnaevs women also had arrests for shoplifting, etc.) ? Who would stiff Macy’s for $46,000 if not for them? Who would cheat on their taxes and claim to make only $1,400/month while owning a restaurant if not for them? Who would serve as a baby daddy and not pay child support if not for them? If Mama Rahimi was not arrested for child abuse, how could we maintain full employment in the prison/social work industry?

    Long before Ahmad starting leaving pressure cooker bombs around the NY metro area, it was clear that once again America was enriched by the Rahimi clan and their authentic Afghan style fried chicken.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    That bloody colonel Sanders has a lot to answer for.

    Who would have thought that a 'niche' restaurant would morph into the means of funding an Afghan takeover?

    Replies: @penntothal, @Jack D

    , @Thomas O. Meehan
    @Jack D

    Actually the restaurant is located in the Elmora section of Elizabeth, a formerly Jewish neighborhood. You could argue that the whole of that city is now "a
    ghetto," I was born there 68 years ago and it was then an industrial and commuter city with quite distinct neighborhoods. We had slums and we had people on the social register.

    Thanks to Black migration and wave after wave of immigration, it's just a good place to have left now. No one I grew up with or their families lives their anymore.

  35. From Team McMullin:

    The word “reform” should be a red flag in the mind of any good thinking person. We all know what “immigration reform” is code for. It seems like “criminal justice reform” means more leniency because mass incarceration blah blah Genius T. Coates blah blah Michelle Alexander blah blah.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @anon930

    McMullin is one of those guys who shouldn't go with the bald look. He has a funny-shaped head. It appears he could grow some hair around the sides, he'd be better off with it.

    Replies: @Daniel Williams, @Anonymous

    , @Bugg
    @anon930

    Toure', like Sting, Cher or Bono but much dumber and less talent.

    Replies: @ogunsiron

    , @duncsbaby
    @anon930

    Ha, ha, this is the conservative option Bill Kristol wants me to vote for? Hanging out w/a white-hating race-hustler? I'm starting to get more & more comfortable w/ the Trump option every single day. Thanks for addressing #criminaljusticereform w/ that noted bridge-builder Toure, McMullin, you made my day.

    , @penntothal
    @anon930

    When did the Mormon church start allowing gay weddings?

    , @Jefferson
    @anon930

    "The word “reform” should be a red flag in the mind of any good thinking person. We all know what “immigration reform” is code for. It seems like “criminal justice reform” means more leniency because mass incarceration blah blah Genius T. Coates blah blah Michelle Alexander blah blah."

    Evan McMullin is the Lindsey Graham of the general election, as in during their runs for the presidency both have failed to crack even 1 percent support among the American people.

    Evan McMullin is trailing behind Jill Stein.

  36. One day in August, he stabbed his brother, his sister and his mother; none of the injuries were grievous, but still.

    I know, rite?

  37. @anon930
    From Team McMullin:

    https://twitter.com/TeamMcMullin/status/779873630712848384

    The word "reform" should be a red flag in the mind of any good thinking person. We all know what "immigration reform" is code for. It seems like "criminal justice reform" means more leniency because mass incarceration blah blah Genius T. Coates blah blah Michelle Alexander blah blah.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Bugg, @duncsbaby, @penntothal, @Jefferson

    McMullin is one of those guys who shouldn’t go with the bald look. He has a funny-shaped head. It appears he could grow some hair around the sides, he’d be better off with it.

    • Replies: @Daniel Williams
    @Harry Baldwin


    ... he could grow some hair around the sides, he’d be better off with it.
     
    That reminds me of my favorite View From The Right post of all time: http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/017431.html

    Dean Ericson should get an award for coining the term "bozo fringe" to describe that look.

    Replies: @Broski

    , @Anonymous
    @Harry Baldwin

    That's an Armenoid head.
    On an Irishman, strangely enough.

  38. America is being strip-mined by aggressive immigrant clans in all 50 states now.

    The US State Department wants it this way. The goal is to bring the USA down to the level of the Third World.

  39. … acted like a king in class … broke a friend’s nose …

    And the headline refers to him as a “class clown”?

  40. The poor family just seem to be victims of random lawsuits and shoplifting charges.

    “Years of small indignities piled up, the minor court cases …

    They endured the travails of so many immigrants with little education: hard work, a confusing legal system, limited opportunity… all the while, problems piled up: the small lawsuits, his children’s run-ins with the police… Little nuisances always seemed to snowball for the Rahamis… like the $242 gas bill… the gas company finally sued him.

    For years, it seemed as if the family’s main encounters with the outside community were negative ones, in the courtroom… even the mother, Najiba, was arrested… After what seemed like countless confrontations… the two were jailed”

  41. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Turk shooter in Seattle suburb:

    Local media identified the suspect as Arcan Cetin, 20, a native of Turkey who went to high school in Oak Harbor. A press conference was scheduled for 9:30 p.m. local time.

    The Second Amendment is a white thing! White culture can handle it (if not de-Christianized).

    African cultures, Mideast cultures, etc cannot handle it.

    Frankly the same goes for the First Amendment.

    • Replies: @ATX Hipster
    @Anonymous


    native of Turkey
     
    God bless this site and its readers. After the first link I found described Cetin simply as an "Oak Harbor resident", I came here because I knew somebody would have the real story.
  42. Apparently Turkey is not sending their best either: Arcan Cetin suspect for Cascade mall shooting.

    http://komonews.com/news/local/sheriffs-office-person-of-interest-arrested-in-cascade-mall-shooting

    As Trump says, “How does this kind of immigration make our lives better? How does this kind of immigration make our country better?”

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Jimi

    At first I was going to joke about the ability to pronounce Turkish names being a plus, but man, FIVE people have lost their lives due to an immigration system that is off the freakin' rails. Five more people I should say. Every day the total gets higher of American lives being taken people who are parasites on society at best & predators at worst. Man, five people dead & the left wing media wants to take away the only thing that will protect you from vermin such as this. We must pay for his sins. We are to blame.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Anonymous
    @Jimi

    In fairness to Turks in the US, as opposed to Muslim countries sending refugees, I imagine the caliber of immigrants on average is rather high. I actually have worked with many secular Turks in the US and Europe who are educated and pretty western seeming. I don't think we are generally getting the lower class central Anatolian peasants like Germany

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Triumph104

  43. @Harry Baldwin
    @anon930

    McMullin is one of those guys who shouldn't go with the bald look. He has a funny-shaped head. It appears he could grow some hair around the sides, he'd be better off with it.

    Replies: @Daniel Williams, @Anonymous

    … he could grow some hair around the sides, he’d be better off with it.

    That reminds me of my favorite View From The Right post of all time: http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/017431.html

    Dean Ericson should get an award for coining the term “bozo fringe” to describe that look.

    • Replies: @Broski
    @Daniel Williams

    Despite starting flame wars with everyone to the right of him (which was few), Auster was a treasure.

  44. @anon
    Do you think there is even a good class of people from Afghanistan ??. I mean really , do you think that even the best people that Afghanistan has to offer are people that would be an asset to any country that they may immigrate to ??

    This is a country with a mean IQ in the 80's. This is a country with institutionalized and culturally accepted child rape. Bacha Bazzi ( boy play ) which is forced sodomy on makeup clad pre pubescent boys perpetrated by grown men. It is an entrenched and accepted part of the culture. Throw in the consanguineous marriage culture and you have the most degraded genetics in the world , maybe matched by Pakistan .

    This is also a culture of violence . I believe the overt homophobia and extreme violence toward gays ( Omar Mateen ) is a result of the embarrassment and ashamedness of being the victims of bacha bazzi as children and the perpatrators as adults. Add Islam to the mix and you could scarcely create a more frightening monster if you tried. Its a poster for who not to allow in your country.

    Here is an article about the Taliban luring Afghan soldiers using bacha bazzi honey pots.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-taliban-use-honey-trap-boys-to-kill-afghan-police-2016-6

    Replies: @eD, @ATX Hipster, @Dave Pinsen, @AndrewR

    About half the people I’ve tried to explain Bacha Bazzi to have accused me of lying to try to defame Islam. The others are in disbelief that the media doesn’t talk about it. It’s interesting the degree to which that charming quirk of their culture is common knowledge among military personnel but either unknown or ignored by the rest of the country.

    Most guys that go to the Middle East probably don’t know what “dysgenic” means, but they understand it by the time they come back. Like atheists in foxholes, there are no race denialists in Afghanistan.

    • Agree: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @ATX Hipster

    As someone who was in the thick of Afghanistan in super Pashtun Paktia, I say: yup.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  45. @Anonymous
    Turk shooter in Seattle suburb:

    Local media identified the suspect as Arcan Cetin, 20, a native of Turkey who went to high school in Oak Harbor. A press conference was scheduled for 9:30 p.m. local time.

    The Second Amendment is a white thing! White culture can handle it (if not de-Christianized).

    African cultures, Mideast cultures, etc cannot handle it.

    Frankly the same goes for the First Amendment.

    Replies: @ATX Hipster

    native of Turkey

    God bless this site and its readers. After the first link I found described Cetin simply as an “Oak Harbor resident”, I came here because I knew somebody would have the real story.

  46. @antipater_1
    OT again but....

    The eyes, just look at the eyes in these two images. Insanity abounds!

    https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/hillary-weird.jpg?w=640

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/Marshall_Applewhite.jpg

    If you have forgotten old Herf Applewhite, just Google him!

    Replies: @AKAHorace

    Look, if Donald Trump was in a wheelchair and Hillary Clinton was running marathons you would still vote for Trump. And in the reverse case Democrats would still vote for Clinton. This is an ideleogical election not about the health, income tax or relationship information about either candidate.

    • Agree: Triumph104
    • Replies: @LondonBob
    @AKAHorace

    True, but it is the effect on the independents and floating voters. Both sides have a critical mass, even Jimmy Carter got 40%.

  47. @Trelane
    @antipater_1

    Paul Ryan has a degree in nothing from the university of nowhere (economics/Miami University in Ohio). He has little or no personal history applicable to his career. Occupationally, Ryan is a life-long politician with no experience in the real world.

    Mitch McConnell also has a degree in nothing from the university of nowhere (history/U. Louisville Ky). Similarly he has little or no personal history and has no experience occuationally except only as a crooked politician.

    If either of these guys was applying for a job at Autozone or Walmart they'd likely be rejected for having no verifyable recent work history, no experience and no applicable job skills.

    Replies: @newrouter, @Triumph104

    Mitch McConnell also has a degree in nothing from the university of nowhere (history/U. Louisville Ky).

    John Deasy received a PhD in education one semester after he started at the University of Louisville. Dr. John Deasy went on to work for the Gates Foundation and later became superintendent of Los Angeles Unified School District where he ill-fatedly purchased a billion dollars worth of Apple iPads. He is now building juvenile prisons.

    The former Dean of Education at Louisville was later sentenced to 63 months in prison for fraud against Louisville and other universities.

    http://www.substancenews.net/articles.php?page=1896
    http://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-deasy-juvenile-prison-reform-20160726-snap-story.html

  48. @Thin-Skinned Masta-Beta
    "They're not sending us their best..."

    Are we sure?

    This may be one of those rare cases in which cynics & optimists could agree... that "they actually ARE sending us their best."

    Replies: @Bugg

    Hard to get a subset of high quality when the entire Venn Diagram is inbred dreck.

  49. @anon930
    From Team McMullin:

    https://twitter.com/TeamMcMullin/status/779873630712848384

    The word "reform" should be a red flag in the mind of any good thinking person. We all know what "immigration reform" is code for. It seems like "criminal justice reform" means more leniency because mass incarceration blah blah Genius T. Coates blah blah Michelle Alexander blah blah.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Bugg, @duncsbaby, @penntothal, @Jefferson

    Toure’, like Sting, Cher or Bono but much dumber and less talent.

    • Replies: @ogunsiron
    @Bugg

    @toure famously said that what he saw in that video of the hillary collapse was (paraphrasing) "someone who needed help to get into a van, like we all do sometimes".

  50. @anon
    Do you think there is even a good class of people from Afghanistan ??. I mean really , do you think that even the best people that Afghanistan has to offer are people that would be an asset to any country that they may immigrate to ??

    This is a country with a mean IQ in the 80's. This is a country with institutionalized and culturally accepted child rape. Bacha Bazzi ( boy play ) which is forced sodomy on makeup clad pre pubescent boys perpetrated by grown men. It is an entrenched and accepted part of the culture. Throw in the consanguineous marriage culture and you have the most degraded genetics in the world , maybe matched by Pakistan .

    This is also a culture of violence . I believe the overt homophobia and extreme violence toward gays ( Omar Mateen ) is a result of the embarrassment and ashamedness of being the victims of bacha bazzi as children and the perpatrators as adults. Add Islam to the mix and you could scarcely create a more frightening monster if you tried. Its a poster for who not to allow in your country.

    Here is an article about the Taliban luring Afghan soldiers using bacha bazzi honey pots.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-taliban-use-honey-trap-boys-to-kill-afghan-police-2016-6

    Replies: @eD, @ATX Hipster, @Dave Pinsen, @AndrewR

    Even the most backward countries can usually produce a handful of cosmopolitan emigres erudite enough to encourage America to intervene disastrously in their home countries. Zalmay Khalilzad of Afghanistan, Ahmed Chalabi of Iraq, etc.

    • Agree: Lot
  51. @antipater_1
    OT but.....

    Does anyone know what Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell actually do in life?
    I've heard they are important and powerful politicians in Washington DC.
    Does anyone have more information?

    Replies: @Trelane, @Neil Templeton, @S. Anonyia

    Yes Antipater, they are important and powerful politicians. They are working very hard for your interests, because you are an American. They accept very large amounts of money in donations from other people, but your interests are first in their minds. After all, a true statesman is not concerned with money or the private interests of his donors, but only with the present and future health of the state and its citizens. Of course, If you would be willing to pay $500 for a breakfast of pancakes, I’m sure Paul and Mitch would be very excited to share their plans for the future with you in more detail. Your interests would be even more interesting to them if you were willing to pay $1,000 for a buffet dinner, or $5,000 for an evening of fine food, conservative conversation, and entertainment. If you could pony up, say, $5 million, they might even be willing to sponsor an immigration reform bill. But even if you have nothing to give, they are more than willing to provide you access to unlimited hours of speechifying, moralizing, and all American wholesale discount price warehouse unlimited liquidation of everything you once thought you had title to.

  52. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    This can't be right. All the press reports said that it was a Hispanic or Latino man, not a Muslim.

    Replies: @snorlax, @res, @S. Anonyia, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    In fairness, he’s very Hispanic in appearance. Also seems to be semi-retarded and/or speaks very little English, judging by his social media postings.

    • Replies: @Marty
    @snorlax

    He's not remotely Hispanic in appearance. Instead, he looks just like many south Asians.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  53. When Hillary sends her people, she’s not sending her best…

  54. Speaking of which, the rural Washington state mall shooter, who looked “hispanic,” is a Turk.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/update-cascade-mall-shooter-captured-suspect-turkish-muslim-arcan-cetin/

    Apparently this was a girlfriend killing, so quasi-Islamic, if so.

  55. @Alfa158
    @Kaz

    Really? The Soviet invasion was 2000 years ago?

    Replies: @Kaz

    You act like Afghanistan was a complete mess before it was involved in the cold war nonsense. It wasn’t completely developed but it was taking the right steps.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Kaz

    I consider any country with the following practices as accepted cultural institutions to be classified as a complete mess :

    Bacha Bazzi (boy play) : culturally accepted rape of pre pubescent boys forced to don girls clothing and heavy makeup.
    Bacha Bereesh (boys without beards) : Rape of boys in the midst of puberty yet without beards, dressed and made up like girls.
    Bacha Baz( a boy player): A man who rapes Bacha Bazzis and Bacha Bereeshas.

    Of course Im just a dumb white guy. So i may not be able to understand all of the exotic and rich islamic cultural mores. Maybe its not right to judge it !!!!

    , @Parbes
    @Kaz

    It was the U.S. that ruined Afghanistan, with its unqualified support of the most retrograde, backward tribal-Islamist elements of that country, the Afghan mujahideen, throughout the Cold War and especially during the Afghan War of the 1980s. The Afghan socialists, whom the USSR backed, would have secularized and socially modernized Afghanistan - if left alone free from outside interference, that is... Butt - NOOO: The U.S. just HAD to go in and support and romanticize the medieval tribal Islamist savages of Afghanistan as "noble anti-communist freedom-fighters" - and funnel jihadis like Bin Laden from all over the Middle East to help them in their "holy war", in collusion with those bastion-of-civilization U.S. allies, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

    It's interesting and disgusting, how you unreconstructed U.S. chauvinist-exceptionalist types do a shape-shift/bait-and-switch in the blink of an eye and manage to turn around and put the blame for undeniable U.S. sins on "the other side", always... You guys need to be exterminated like bugs.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jack D

  56. @Tiny Duck
    Judging by the actions of Dylan Roof and others we need to lock up all white men. Obviously such a dangerous group of people cannot be trusted with freedom

    Replies: @German_reader, @Warner, @iSteveFan, @Mark Eugenikos, @ic1000

    You go first, bro! We’ll even let you pick a prison on your own.

  57. anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Kaz
    @Alfa158

    You act like Afghanistan was a complete mess before it was involved in the cold war nonsense. It wasn't completely developed but it was taking the right steps.

    Replies: @anon, @Parbes

    I consider any country with the following practices as accepted cultural institutions to be classified as a complete mess :

    Bacha Bazzi (boy play) : culturally accepted rape of pre pubescent boys forced to don girls clothing and heavy makeup.
    Bacha Bereesh (boys without beards) : Rape of boys in the midst of puberty yet without beards, dressed and made up like girls.
    Bacha Baz( a boy player): A man who rapes Bacha Bazzis and Bacha Bereeshas.

    Of course Im just a dumb white guy. So i may not be able to understand all of the exotic and rich islamic cultural mores. Maybe its not right to judge it !!!!

  58. This Reddit post from one of his peers claims that he was a Christian and used to be relatively normal.

    Comment
    by from discussion
    inSeattle

    • Replies: @Lot
    @David G


    This Reddit post from one of his peers claims that he was a Christian and used to be relatively normal.
     
    Turkey massacred and expelled all three of its Christian minority populations, roughly 2 massacred or died on long forced marches without food, and 1.5 million expelled.

    Replies: @Lot

  59. OT: Is Snopes reliable on BLM-type controversies? Their article format could be a lot clearer, and when I search for the Ferguson convenience-store video I find only a debunking of a different video. Are they consistently stacking the deck to support BLM?

  60. @Auntie Analogue
    Yet another Enemedia-Pravda piece peddling the "lone wolf" - aka, "just one bad apple" - myth about Islam (but never about "right-wing extremists" whose entire cohort of "deplorables" is, of course, fully responsible for All The World's Evils), with just the right addition of hints from the same vein as all the Victim Grievance-Shakedown Industrialists and their Goodwhite apologists blaming external factors for every failure, every anti-social act and crime of non-whites and foreigners.

    Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose

    It takes a wolfpack to raise a ‘lone wolf.’

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  61. Apparently, when Haiti is sending their people to France, they’re not sending their best:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=708_1474699364

  62. @David G
    This Reddit post from one of his peers claims that he was a Christian and used to be relatively normal.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/54d7ek/cascade_mall_shooter_arrested/d80xq2c

    Replies: @Lot

    This Reddit post from one of his peers claims that he was a Christian and used to be relatively normal.

    Turkey massacred and expelled all three of its Christian minority populations, roughly 2 massacred or died on long forced marches without food, and 1.5 million expelled.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Lot

    Robert Spencer, founder of https://www.jihadwatch.org/ , is a Greek Christian from what is modern Turkey who fled Turkey's Greek genocide.

    Replies: @Parbes

  63. @Bugg
    @anon930

    Toure', like Sting, Cher or Bono but much dumber and less talent.

    Replies: @ogunsiron

    @toure famously said that what he saw in that video of the hillary collapse was (paraphrasing) “someone who needed help to get into a van, like we all do sometimes”.

  64. @Lot

    A survey of Pashtuns in Afghanistan in 2010 found that 43% of married couples are first or second cousins. Another survey in 2011 of Pashtuns in the south and west of Afghanistan found 50% of couples were cousins.
     
    When you see these numbers, remember the dysgenic effect of inbreeding at such high level multiplies each generation. How long have they been up to this?

    Replies: @Kaz, @rec1man, @Fredrik

    This is also why I dispute what Steve wrote about them doing this for visa purposes.

    Marrying cousins(meaning the children of brothers) is what they do. Don’t be surprised if other cousin combinations are a significant part of the non-cousin marriages.

  65. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde

    There’s no mention in the article of how closely related Rahami’s arranged bride might be to him, but arranged marriages for the purpose of getting a visa are often done within an extended family.
     
    Pakistanis have this down to a science in the UK and plenty of money changes hands when an Afghani or Pakistani bride or groom is imported into America/UK/etc. This imported spouse represents a foothold for other family members to legally immigrate to a civilized infidel nation where they can run their convenience store food stamp scams and fried chicken joints. This has high monetary value in the Muslim third world as Americans remain oblivious as the termites are gnawing way.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    As an earlier correspondent wrote, it is likely that each and every Pakistani settled in the UK for a good period of time, say roughly 40 years or so, is directly responsible for bringing in something between 10 and 100 other Pakistanis. Some authorities put it as high as the latter.
    Anyhow, this is exponential growth on steroids, as each imported Pakistani is certain to do likewise, ad infinitum. Therefore, you can guarantee an enormous Pakistani population, numbering in the tens of millions, in the UK, by year 2100. Also you can guarantee permanent Corbyn-style Labour Party rule, despite all the guff you might read about the Labour Party being finished.

    The same scenario will unfold with the Pashtuns- but Germany and the USA are the main targets.
    Sub-cons have a real talent for sniffing out the utter damned stupidity of white leaderships – and once they’ve found a weakness, for exploiting that weakness to the utmost hilt.
    Also, they are very very adept at bribing officials.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Anonymous

    Great info and details! As a quick aside. From friends visiting the UK I understand more and more of their fish and chips shops are Pakistani run. They love them cash businesses (lots of fiddling on taxes) plus they can have their recently arrived Paki relatives work for them at slave wages!!! Plus don't forget how many Indian immigrants are in fact Muslim. Many Indian restaurants here (USA) seem Muslim run.

    Replies: @Lurker, @Anonymous

    , @Lurker
    @Anonymous


    Sub-cons have a real talent for sniffing out the utter damned stupidity of white leaderships – and once they’ve found a weakness, for exploiting that weakness to the utmost hilt.
     
    It's not stupidity. It's naked ethnic warfare using the vibrant immigrants as the weapon.

    The only stupidity is the useful idiot/cucks who cover for it but they aren't making high level policy.
  66. @Lot
    @David G


    This Reddit post from one of his peers claims that he was a Christian and used to be relatively normal.
     
    Turkey massacred and expelled all three of its Christian minority populations, roughly 2 massacred or died on long forced marches without food, and 1.5 million expelled.

    Replies: @Lot

    Robert Spencer, founder of https://www.jihadwatch.org/ , is a Greek Christian from what is modern Turkey who fled Turkey’s Greek genocide.

    • Replies: @Parbes
    @Lot

    He is also a Zio-con worshipping, neocon fool.

    Replies: @Stan

  67. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    The Rahimi's and their 8 children were just what America needed. Who would bring fried chicken to the ghettos of the Northeast if not for them? Who would shoplift from Filene's if not for his daughters (the Tsarnaevs women also had arrests for shoplifting, etc.) ? Who would stiff Macy's for $46,000 if not for them? Who would cheat on their taxes and claim to make only $1,400/month while owning a restaurant if not for them? Who would serve as a baby daddy and not pay child support if not for them? If Mama Rahimi was not arrested for child abuse, how could we maintain full employment in the prison/social work industry?

    Long before Ahmad starting leaving pressure cooker bombs around the NY metro area, it was clear that once again America was enriched by the Rahimi clan and their authentic Afghan style fried chicken.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Thomas O. Meehan

    That bloody colonel Sanders has a lot to answer for.

    Who would have thought that a ‘niche’ restaurant would morph into the means of funding an Afghan takeover?

    • Replies: @penntothal
    @Anonymous

    Re: restaurants and "Afghan takeover":

    The Helmand, long a popular Afghan restaurant in Baltimore, was owned by the Karzai family, who would later be installed in Kabul after the coalition war.

    http://www.citypaper.com/news/features/bcp-qayum-karzais-life-is-split-between-his-baltimore-restaurants-and-his-native-afghanistan-20150303-story.html

    Replies: @Hidden Cat, @Brutusale

    , @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    And they don't even get franchise fees - the restaurant format is copycat. The most successful Afghan fried chicken chain is "Kennedy Fried Chicken". It would be poetic justice if it was named in honor of Ted in appreciation of his efforts on Hart-Celler, but most Afghans are really not that well versed in American history and the name is (nominally) in honor of JFK, but really because it is confusingly similar to Kentucky.

    Afghans are resistant to the rule of law. Not only do they refuse to pay for a KFC franchise, they won't even pay for a Kennedy Fried Chicken franchise either:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/14/nyregion/14chicken.html?_r=0

    Afghans really prefer to eat lamb but Americans don't really love lamb (especially not ghetto-Americans - most Afghan fried chicken places are in AA neighborhoods) so fried chicken it is. Another job Americans don't want to do - staying up late to sell bad fried chicken to ghetto dwellers and hoping not to get shot in a holdup. Afghans come over and learn the ropes at another Afghan's chicken place and after a few years they open their own. You staff it with family, declare little income and the smarter ones can own several and pay for fancy weddings for their children and really shiny furniture. Rahimi Sr. was not one of the smarter ones.

    Replies: @Ivy

  68. @Harry Baldwin
    @anon930

    McMullin is one of those guys who shouldn't go with the bald look. He has a funny-shaped head. It appears he could grow some hair around the sides, he'd be better off with it.

    Replies: @Daniel Williams, @Anonymous

    That’s an Armenoid head.
    On an Irishman, strangely enough.

  69. @Daniel Williams
    @Harry Baldwin


    ... he could grow some hair around the sides, he’d be better off with it.
     
    That reminds me of my favorite View From The Right post of all time: http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/017431.html

    Dean Ericson should get an award for coining the term "bozo fringe" to describe that look.

    Replies: @Broski

    Despite starting flame wars with everyone to the right of him (which was few), Auster was a treasure.

  70. @Kaz
    @Alfa158

    You act like Afghanistan was a complete mess before it was involved in the cold war nonsense. It wasn't completely developed but it was taking the right steps.

    Replies: @anon, @Parbes

    It was the U.S. that ruined Afghanistan, with its unqualified support of the most retrograde, backward tribal-Islamist elements of that country, the Afghan mujahideen, throughout the Cold War and especially during the Afghan War of the 1980s. The Afghan socialists, whom the USSR backed, would have secularized and socially modernized Afghanistan – if left alone free from outside interference, that is… Butt – NOOO: The U.S. just HAD to go in and support and romanticize the medieval tribal Islamist savages of Afghanistan as “noble anti-communist freedom-fighters” – and funnel jihadis like Bin Laden from all over the Middle East to help them in their “holy war”, in collusion with those bastion-of-civilization U.S. allies, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

    It’s interesting and disgusting, how you unreconstructed U.S. chauvinist-exceptionalist types do a shape-shift/bait-and-switch in the blink of an eye and manage to turn around and put the blame for undeniable U.S. sins on “the other side”, always… You guys need to be exterminated like bugs.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Parbes

    I doubt if anyone - even the former USSR at its toughest and most intolerant, could have changed the ways of the Afghans.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Fredrik

    , @Jack D
    @Parbes


    The Afghan socialists, whom the USSR backed, would have secularized and socially modernized Afghanistan
     
    I don't think this was ever going to work, for the same reason that it didn't work in Turkey or Pakistan or Iran or Lebanon or any other Muslim country . In all of these countries you had a Westernized urban elite who had the potential to create a modern society but as soon as people became Westernized they adopted Western breeding patterns (1 or 2 kids). Meanwhile, you had a group out in the countryside that was barely touched by Westernization and they continued to breed in the traditional way and were in thrall to religious leaders opposed to modernism. And the countryside won the war of the cradle everywhere. It was a race against the clock to modernize the countryside and the race was lost everywhere. Afghanistan was particularly backward and was an unlikely candidate for complete Westernization. Just because there was once a small nucleus of Westernization in Kabul does not prove that it was going to spread. The Russians' heavy handed tactics sure didn't help endear secularism to the Afghans.

    I'll bet you could model this fairly easily in terms of different birth rates for city and country and different rates of spread of modernization to the countryside and with certain values the scale would tip the other way but apparently these values were never achieved in an Muslim country to date. Turkey came close, but not quite.

    Replies: @Bill

  71. @Lot
    @Lot

    Robert Spencer, founder of https://www.jihadwatch.org/ , is a Greek Christian from what is modern Turkey who fled Turkey's Greek genocide.

    Replies: @Parbes

    He is also a Zio-con worshipping, neocon fool.

    • Replies: @Stan
    @Parbes

    Spencer sings the praises of Israel and parrots neocon drivel to earn his $150,000 annual salary from David Horowitz.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  72. @Parbes
    @Kaz

    It was the U.S. that ruined Afghanistan, with its unqualified support of the most retrograde, backward tribal-Islamist elements of that country, the Afghan mujahideen, throughout the Cold War and especially during the Afghan War of the 1980s. The Afghan socialists, whom the USSR backed, would have secularized and socially modernized Afghanistan - if left alone free from outside interference, that is... Butt - NOOO: The U.S. just HAD to go in and support and romanticize the medieval tribal Islamist savages of Afghanistan as "noble anti-communist freedom-fighters" - and funnel jihadis like Bin Laden from all over the Middle East to help them in their "holy war", in collusion with those bastion-of-civilization U.S. allies, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

    It's interesting and disgusting, how you unreconstructed U.S. chauvinist-exceptionalist types do a shape-shift/bait-and-switch in the blink of an eye and manage to turn around and put the blame for undeniable U.S. sins on "the other side", always... You guys need to be exterminated like bugs.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jack D

    I doubt if anyone – even the former USSR at its toughest and most intolerant, could have changed the ways of the Afghans.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    How much of the last fifteen years of trouble we've had in the Middle East could have been avoided if we had just let the Soviets dig their own quagmire in Afghanistan ? It's a question that doesn't get asked enough.

    Replies: @Lurker, @AndrewR

    , @Fredrik
    @Anonymous

    That's because at that the time of this war the Soviets had gone soft.

    They failed fighting the Chechens in the 90's too. In the 40's they just went in virtually overnight and shipped every Chechen away to Kazakhstan. The Soviets of the 40's would have made Afghans Atheists. Or else...

  73. @anon
    Do you think there is even a good class of people from Afghanistan ??. I mean really , do you think that even the best people that Afghanistan has to offer are people that would be an asset to any country that they may immigrate to ??

    This is a country with a mean IQ in the 80's. This is a country with institutionalized and culturally accepted child rape. Bacha Bazzi ( boy play ) which is forced sodomy on makeup clad pre pubescent boys perpetrated by grown men. It is an entrenched and accepted part of the culture. Throw in the consanguineous marriage culture and you have the most degraded genetics in the world , maybe matched by Pakistan .

    This is also a culture of violence . I believe the overt homophobia and extreme violence toward gays ( Omar Mateen ) is a result of the embarrassment and ashamedness of being the victims of bacha bazzi as children and the perpatrators as adults. Add Islam to the mix and you could scarcely create a more frightening monster if you tried. Its a poster for who not to allow in your country.

    Here is an article about the Taliban luring Afghan soldiers using bacha bazzi honey pots.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-taliban-use-honey-trap-boys-to-kill-afghan-police-2016-6

    Replies: @eD, @ATX Hipster, @Dave Pinsen, @AndrewR

    I doubt Somalians are any better. If I had to choose I’d take Afghanis because they’re a lot whiter.

    And say what you want about the Taliban but at least they banned bachi bazi.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @AndrewR

    It's as if America always picked the wrong side in its wars abroad.

    , @Lot
    @AndrewR


    I doubt Somalians are any better. If I had to choose I’d take Afghanis because they’re a lot whiter.
     
    If we did over the next 50 years probably 2/3 would just blend into the white underclass, which is also increasingly partly assimilated hispanic.

    Replies: @Perspective, @Anonymous

    , @Jefferson
    @AndrewR

    "I doubt Somalians are any better. If I had to choose I’d take Afghanis because they’re a lot whiter."

    I would choose neither. AFGHANISTAN HAS A LOWER HUMAN DEVELOPMENT INDEX THAN MOST BLACK AS MIDNIGHT SUB SAHARAN AFRICAN COUNTRIES.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop

    Afghanis are so backwards and poor that they make Mixed Race Latin Americans look as successful as Ashkenazi Jews.

    , @DCThrowback
    @AndrewR

    ...and heroin, which is what probably got the CIA's attention in the first place

  74. @anon930
    From Team McMullin:

    https://twitter.com/TeamMcMullin/status/779873630712848384

    The word "reform" should be a red flag in the mind of any good thinking person. We all know what "immigration reform" is code for. It seems like "criminal justice reform" means more leniency because mass incarceration blah blah Genius T. Coates blah blah Michelle Alexander blah blah.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Bugg, @duncsbaby, @penntothal, @Jefferson

    Ha, ha, this is the conservative option Bill Kristol wants me to vote for? Hanging out w/a white-hating race-hustler? I’m starting to get more & more comfortable w/ the Trump option every single day. Thanks for addressing #criminaljusticereform w/ that noted bridge-builder Toure, McMullin, you made my day.

  75. @anon930
    From Team McMullin:

    https://twitter.com/TeamMcMullin/status/779873630712848384

    The word "reform" should be a red flag in the mind of any good thinking person. We all know what "immigration reform" is code for. It seems like "criminal justice reform" means more leniency because mass incarceration blah blah Genius T. Coates blah blah Michelle Alexander blah blah.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Bugg, @duncsbaby, @penntothal, @Jefferson

    When did the Mormon church start allowing gay weddings?

  76. @ATX Hipster
    @anon

    About half the people I've tried to explain Bacha Bazzi to have accused me of lying to try to defame Islam. The others are in disbelief that the media doesn't talk about it. It's interesting the degree to which that charming quirk of their culture is common knowledge among military personnel but either unknown or ignored by the rest of the country.

    Most guys that go to the Middle East probably don't know what "dysgenic" means, but they understand it by the time they come back. Like atheists in foxholes, there are no race denialists in Afghanistan.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    As someone who was in the thick of Afghanistan in super Pashtun Paktia, I say: yup.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack Hanson

    Thank you for your service to our country. To paraphrase Bismarck, "The whole of Afghanistan is not worth the bones of a single Pomeranian grenadier. "

  77. @Jimi
    Apparently Turkey is not sending their best either: Arcan Cetin suspect for Cascade mall shooting.

    http://komonews.com/news/local/sheriffs-office-person-of-interest-arrested-in-cascade-mall-shooting

    As Trump says, "How does this kind of immigration make our lives better? How does this kind of immigration make our country better?"

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @Anonymous

    At first I was going to joke about the ability to pronounce Turkish names being a plus, but man, FIVE people have lost their lives due to an immigration system that is off the freakin’ rails. Five more people I should say. Every day the total gets higher of American lives being taken people who are parasites on society at best & predators at worst. Man, five people dead & the left wing media wants to take away the only thing that will protect you from vermin such as this. We must pay for his sins. We are to blame.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @duncsbaby

    Years ago, his excellency the Turkish ambassador to Germany was a certain Mustafa Kunt.

  78. @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    That bloody colonel Sanders has a lot to answer for.

    Who would have thought that a 'niche' restaurant would morph into the means of funding an Afghan takeover?

    Replies: @penntothal, @Jack D

    Re: restaurants and “Afghan takeover”:

    The Helmand, long a popular Afghan restaurant in Baltimore, was owned by the Karzai family, who would later be installed in Kabul after the coalition war.

    http://www.citypaper.com/news/features/bcp-qayum-karzais-life-is-split-between-his-baltimore-restaurants-and-his-native-afghanistan-20150303-story.html

    • Replies: @Hidden Cat
    @penntothal


    The Helmand, long a popular Afghan restaurant in Baltimore, was owned by the Karzai family, who would later be installed in Kabul after the coalition war.
     
    Wonder how many cities have a Karzai family owned "Helmand" restaurant... ? We had one here, for a couple of decades, on the tourist end of Broadway in North Beach. A land and rock slide from Telegraph Hill compromised the building it was in, some years ago. No idea if they re-established it. Also said to be owned by a "Karzai brother".

    Replies: @Thomas O. Meehan

    , @Brutusale
    @penntothal

    There's been one in Cambridge, MA for years. They're owned by Hamid's brother Mahmood. If memory serves, he was investigated by the feds for corruption.

    Yeah, memory served:

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703694204575518291112830512

  79. @Kaz
    @Lot

    Since the Soviet Invasion I'd say. All their local social networks were broken up during that time so the only people you end up knowing for marriage sake is close family.

    Replies: @Alfa158, @Lurker

    I suspect it’s been going on a lot longer than that.

    This sounds a bit like a kvetch I hear from Indian chauvinists – that the caste system is really a British imposition. Before the Brits arrived everyone was marrying everyone else and caste didn’t really matter.

  80. @Anonymous
    @Clyde

    As an earlier correspondent wrote, it is likely that each and every Pakistani settled in the UK for a good period of time, say roughly 40 years or so, is directly responsible for bringing in something between 10 and 100 other Pakistanis. Some authorities put it as high as the latter.
    Anyhow, this is exponential growth on steroids, as each imported Pakistani is certain to do likewise, ad infinitum. Therefore, you can guarantee an enormous Pakistani population, numbering in the tens of millions, in the UK, by year 2100. Also you can guarantee permanent Corbyn-style Labour Party rule, despite all the guff you might read about the Labour Party being finished.

    The same scenario will unfold with the Pashtuns- but Germany and the USA are the main targets.
    Sub-cons have a real talent for sniffing out the utter damned stupidity of white leaderships - and once they've found a weakness, for exploiting that weakness to the utmost hilt.
    Also, they are very very adept at bribing officials.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Lurker

    Great info and details! As a quick aside. From friends visiting the UK I understand more and more of their fish and chips shops are Pakistani run. They love them cash businesses (lots of fiddling on taxes) plus they can have their recently arrived Paki relatives work for them at slave wages!!! Plus don’t forget how many Indian immigrants are in fact Muslim. Many Indian restaurants here (USA) seem Muslim run.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Clyde

    Afaik a majority of 'Indian' restaurants in the UK are mostly Bangladeshi run.

    , @Anonymous
    @Clyde

    These days, the traditional British fish and chip shop are few and far between.
    I say 'traditional British', but in London, at least, for the past half century or so, most were run by Greek Cypriots or Italians.
    Alas, second generation Cypriots and Italians have no interest in running these establishments, so they are vanishing.
    Generic, Pakistani run fried chicken joints are legion and are sprouting up like mushrooms after the rain. Every high street has got at least a half dozen of them. Their clientele are predominately chavs, who graze like cattle on that horrible food, and black people.
    The other day, in London's east end, an immigrant Czech was beaten to death outside a fried chicken joint by a pack of young blacks for 'disrespect'.

    Such is life in Blair's London.

  81. @AndrewR
    @anon

    I doubt Somalians are any better. If I had to choose I'd take Afghanis because they're a lot whiter.

    And say what you want about the Taliban but at least they banned bachi bazi.

    Replies: @BB753, @Lot, @Jefferson, @DCThrowback

    It’s as if America always picked the wrong side in its wars abroad.

  82. Anonymous [AKA "bartman\'s privateers"] says:
    @Anonymous
    @Parbes

    I doubt if anyone - even the former USSR at its toughest and most intolerant, could have changed the ways of the Afghans.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Fredrik

    How much of the last fifteen years of trouble we’ve had in the Middle East could have been avoided if we had just let the Soviets dig their own quagmire in Afghanistan ? It’s a question that doesn’t get asked enough.

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Anonymous

    I remember watching a documentary about the latter days of the Soviet mission in Afghanistan and forming a nagging suspicion for the first time that we (the west) were supporting the wrong side.

    Replies: @Lot

    , @AndrewR
    @Anonymous

    >Implying the Russians could have maintained imperialism in Afghanistan after the cold ware nded

  83. @Jefferson
    Don't expect Liberals to make incest jokes about Afghanis and other Muslims anytime soon like they do with Whites from Louisiana, West Virginia, Alabama, Georgia, etc even though the former is way more likely to engage in incest sex than the latter. It's a hate fact.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory

    First cousin marriage is banned in Louisiana, West Virginia, Kentucky, Arkansas and it is a criminal offense in Texas and Oklahoma. Of course it is legal in all of the enlightened, progressive Northeast, except for New Hampshire.

    Judging from the people I have seen from Connecticut, New York and Massachusetts incest must run wild up there.

  84. @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    That bloody colonel Sanders has a lot to answer for.

    Who would have thought that a 'niche' restaurant would morph into the means of funding an Afghan takeover?

    Replies: @penntothal, @Jack D

    And they don’t even get franchise fees – the restaurant format is copycat. The most successful Afghan fried chicken chain is “Kennedy Fried Chicken”. It would be poetic justice if it was named in honor of Ted in appreciation of his efforts on Hart-Celler, but most Afghans are really not that well versed in American history and the name is (nominally) in honor of JFK, but really because it is confusingly similar to Kentucky.

    Afghans are resistant to the rule of law. Not only do they refuse to pay for a KFC franchise, they won’t even pay for a Kennedy Fried Chicken franchise either:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/14/nyregion/14chicken.html?_r=0

    Afghans really prefer to eat lamb but Americans don’t really love lamb (especially not ghetto-Americans – most Afghan fried chicken places are in AA neighborhoods) so fried chicken it is. Another job Americans don’t want to do – staying up late to sell bad fried chicken to ghetto dwellers and hoping not to get shot in a holdup. Afghans come over and learn the ropes at another Afghan’s chicken place and after a few years they open their own. You staff it with family, declare little income and the smarter ones can own several and pay for fancy weddings for their children and really shiny furniture. Rahimi Sr. was not one of the smarter ones.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @Jack D

    Is Kennedy Fried Chicken fully cooked when it bobs to the surface? Or does it need to be submerged again?

  85. @Anonymous
    The shooter in Washington state is Arcan Cetin. 20-year old originally from Turkey.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jack D, @The Alarmist

    “The shooter in Washington state is Arcan Cetin. 20-year old originally from Turkey.”

    But for some strange reason, CNN felt it was important to emphasize that he was a lawful permanent resident.

    If that is indeed an important fact, it neatly underscores that legal immigration from some parts of the world needs to also be given further scrutiny and brought to an end.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @The Alarmist

    The left is well aware that each Muslim shooting/bombing plays into Trump's narrative (and gains him votes) and they are spinning like crazy to downplay each one. Their fondest hope is that the perp is a white guy - they pray each night to their atheist god - next time let it be a white guy! Before the perp is caught, he is never identified as a Muslim in the press - Cetin was described as "Hispanic". Not even "Hispanic or possibly Middle Eastern" but just flat out Hispanic.

    Then when they catch the guy, that spin, like Hillary's "overheating", is no longer operative and they fall back on the idea that, while yes, he was born a Muslim, the guy grew up here and was "Westernized" - just a regular American guy who played video games and wore his baseball cap backwards. He was bullied at school, could not find his place in America, caught between two cultures, yada yada so he turned to the dark side. It was America's fault really.

    Personally, I think it just makes them look stupid that they play the line "it's not a Muslim, not a Muslim, not a Muslim....ooops it's a Muslim" over and over again but the leftist press doesn't seem to think so. The same thing happens with almost all of the BLM shootings - "he didn't have a gun, they shot an unarmed man, he a good boy .....oops he had a gun and a record a mile long police record." But again this doesn't seem to make any difference.

    On Scott Adams blog he has a post up saying that the ability to perceive reality accurately does not necessarily increase reproductive fitness and therefore humans are not really evolved to perceive reality.

    Replies: @larry lurker

  86. @AKAHorace
    @antipater_1

    Look, if Donald Trump was in a wheelchair and Hillary Clinton was running marathons you would still vote for Trump. And in the reverse case Democrats would still vote for Clinton. This is an ideleogical election not about the health, income tax or relationship information about either candidate.

    Replies: @LondonBob

    True, but it is the effect on the independents and floating voters. Both sides have a critical mass, even Jimmy Carter got 40%.

  87. @Anonymous
    @Parbes

    I doubt if anyone - even the former USSR at its toughest and most intolerant, could have changed the ways of the Afghans.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Fredrik

    That’s because at that the time of this war the Soviets had gone soft.

    They failed fighting the Chechens in the 90’s too. In the 40’s they just went in virtually overnight and shipped every Chechen away to Kazakhstan. The Soviets of the 40’s would have made Afghans Atheists. Or else…

  88. @Anonymous
    @Clyde

    As an earlier correspondent wrote, it is likely that each and every Pakistani settled in the UK for a good period of time, say roughly 40 years or so, is directly responsible for bringing in something between 10 and 100 other Pakistanis. Some authorities put it as high as the latter.
    Anyhow, this is exponential growth on steroids, as each imported Pakistani is certain to do likewise, ad infinitum. Therefore, you can guarantee an enormous Pakistani population, numbering in the tens of millions, in the UK, by year 2100. Also you can guarantee permanent Corbyn-style Labour Party rule, despite all the guff you might read about the Labour Party being finished.

    The same scenario will unfold with the Pashtuns- but Germany and the USA are the main targets.
    Sub-cons have a real talent for sniffing out the utter damned stupidity of white leaderships - and once they've found a weakness, for exploiting that weakness to the utmost hilt.
    Also, they are very very adept at bribing officials.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Lurker

    Sub-cons have a real talent for sniffing out the utter damned stupidity of white leaderships – and once they’ve found a weakness, for exploiting that weakness to the utmost hilt.

    It’s not stupidity. It’s naked ethnic warfare using the vibrant immigrants as the weapon.

    The only stupidity is the useful idiot/cucks who cover for it but they aren’t making high level policy.

  89. @Tiny Duck
    Judging by the actions of Dylan Roof and others we need to lock up all white men. Obviously such a dangerous group of people cannot be trusted with freedom

    Replies: @German_reader, @Warner, @iSteveFan, @Mark Eugenikos, @ic1000

    Stronger Together

    😉

  90. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    This can't be right. All the press reports said that it was a Hispanic or Latino man, not a Muslim.

    Replies: @snorlax, @res, @S. Anonyia, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    This can’t be right. All the press reports said that it was a Hispanic or Latino man, not a Muslim.

    Funny how that works. Trump is the first to say something which turns out to be correct and he is “jumping to conclusions” while the media clowns and establishment politicians pump out misleading and/or incorrect attempts at early shaping of the narrative day after day and are seldom if ever held to account (in the mass media anyway, fortunately we have iSteve).

  91. @The Alarmist
    @Anonymous


    "The shooter in Washington state is Arcan Cetin. 20-year old originally from Turkey."
     
    But for some strange reason, CNN felt it was important to emphasize that he was a lawful permanent resident.

    If that is indeed an important fact, it neatly underscores that legal immigration from some parts of the world needs to also be given further scrutiny and brought to an end.

    Replies: @Jack D

    The left is well aware that each Muslim shooting/bombing plays into Trump’s narrative (and gains him votes) and they are spinning like crazy to downplay each one. Their fondest hope is that the perp is a white guy – they pray each night to their atheist god – next time let it be a white guy! Before the perp is caught, he is never identified as a Muslim in the press – Cetin was described as “Hispanic”. Not even “Hispanic or possibly Middle Eastern” but just flat out Hispanic.

    Then when they catch the guy, that spin, like Hillary’s “overheating”, is no longer operative and they fall back on the idea that, while yes, he was born a Muslim, the guy grew up here and was “Westernized” – just a regular American guy who played video games and wore his baseball cap backwards. He was bullied at school, could not find his place in America, caught between two cultures, yada yada so he turned to the dark side. It was America’s fault really.

    Personally, I think it just makes them look stupid that they play the line “it’s not a Muslim, not a Muslim, not a Muslim….ooops it’s a Muslim” over and over again but the leftist press doesn’t seem to think so. The same thing happens with almost all of the BLM shootings – “he didn’t have a gun, they shot an unarmed man, he a good boy …..oops he had a gun and a record a mile long police record.” But again this doesn’t seem to make any difference.

    On Scott Adams blog he has a post up saying that the ability to perceive reality accurately does not necessarily increase reproductive fitness and therefore humans are not really evolved to perceive reality.

    • Replies: @larry lurker
    @Jack D

    I started listening to the Skagit County police scanner about an hour after the shooting occurred. The description that went out was: "Hispanic male, 20 to 25 years old, 5'9, skinny build, messy black hair, black shirt."

    It sounded like officers had only just arrived at the scene. If so, they wouldn't have had time to pull the security footage yet, so I'm assuming the description came from an eyewitness. The description was reinforced by a caller who reported that a Hispanic male who fit the description of the suspect had tried to enter their house through a locked back door.

    So in this particular instance I think they were just working with the info that they had. He doesn't look all that Hispanic in the security camera captures, but I can understand why you wouldn't want to second-guess an eyewitness's description based on some grainy images.

  92. @penntothal
    @Anonymous

    Re: restaurants and "Afghan takeover":

    The Helmand, long a popular Afghan restaurant in Baltimore, was owned by the Karzai family, who would later be installed in Kabul after the coalition war.

    http://www.citypaper.com/news/features/bcp-qayum-karzais-life-is-split-between-his-baltimore-restaurants-and-his-native-afghanistan-20150303-story.html

    Replies: @Hidden Cat, @Brutusale

    The Helmand, long a popular Afghan restaurant in Baltimore, was owned by the Karzai family, who would later be installed in Kabul after the coalition war.

    Wonder how many cities have a Karzai family owned “Helmand” restaurant… ? We had one here, for a couple of decades, on the tourist end of Broadway in North Beach. A land and rock slide from Telegraph Hill compromised the building it was in, some years ago. No idea if they re-established it. Also said to be owned by a “Karzai brother”.

    • Replies: @Thomas O. Meehan
    @Hidden Cat

    I was told that there was one in Philadelphia, close to 30th Street Station.

  93. @iSteveFan
    @Tiny Duck

    How about segregating whites from the rest? Make whites live in their own communities, attend their own schools, work in their own businesses, etc.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Please don’t throw me in the briar patch, Brer Fox!

  94. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    How much of the last fifteen years of trouble we've had in the Middle East could have been avoided if we had just let the Soviets dig their own quagmire in Afghanistan ? It's a question that doesn't get asked enough.

    Replies: @Lurker, @AndrewR

    I remember watching a documentary about the latter days of the Soviet mission in Afghanistan and forming a nagging suspicion for the first time that we (the west) were supporting the wrong side.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Lurker

    In that particular war we were easily on the wrong side. But it certainly helped speed the USSR's fall and was sweet payback for their support of Nork/NVA forces.

  95. @Clyde
    @Anonymous

    Great info and details! As a quick aside. From friends visiting the UK I understand more and more of their fish and chips shops are Pakistani run. They love them cash businesses (lots of fiddling on taxes) plus they can have their recently arrived Paki relatives work for them at slave wages!!! Plus don't forget how many Indian immigrants are in fact Muslim. Many Indian restaurants here (USA) seem Muslim run.

    Replies: @Lurker, @Anonymous

    Afaik a majority of ‘Indian’ restaurants in the UK are mostly Bangladeshi run.

  96. @Anonymous
    Multiple generations of cousin marriage is THE issue with Jews (of the past) and Muslims (still).

    Derb has an article on this site right now about Jewish paranoia. Muslim paranoia is even worse.

    Cousin marriage aka inbreeding causes the human brain to sizzle like a grease fire. Hillbillies are famous for these same traits the world over: paranoia, uncontrolled anger, aggression.

    The levantine (semitic) cultures are clan based, cousin marrying. You can't fix anything in the Middle East without ending this lunacy.

    Replies: @Jack D

    While it is true that Judaism allows cousin marriage, I don’t get the feeling that it was all that common among Ashkenazi Jews. Jews were more influenced by the laws and customs of the places that they lived than you might imagine. Jews living in Christendom adopted monogamy even though Jewish law originally permitted multiple wives. For one thing, if you did something that was permitted by Jewish law but not by the civil law of the country in which you lived, you could end up being punished.

    Cousin marriage is not usually associated with high intelligence, or if it can be, then the conventional wisdom of cousin marriage being a really bad thing is wrong. Or maybe it depends on who the cousins are to begin with. If the cousins are both violent tribesmen then you get extra violent tribesmen, but if they are both scholarly types then you get extra scholarly offspring. Jews do show some signs of inbreeding in terms of having strange genetic diseases – these diseases tend to be neurological and may be of the type where if you get one copy of the gene it’s good (for intelligence) but two copies are bad.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @Jack D

    A few centuries of shtetl in-breeding could do that. "Boychik, you shall marry Rachel tomorrow, even if she is your cousin and the family has illnesses".

  97. @Jack Hanson
    @ATX Hipster

    As someone who was in the thick of Afghanistan in super Pashtun Paktia, I say: yup.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Thank you for your service to our country. To paraphrase Bismarck, “The whole of Afghanistan is not worth the bones of a single Pomeranian grenadier. ”

  98. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Jimi
    Apparently Turkey is not sending their best either: Arcan Cetin suspect for Cascade mall shooting.

    http://komonews.com/news/local/sheriffs-office-person-of-interest-arrested-in-cascade-mall-shooting

    As Trump says, "How does this kind of immigration make our lives better? How does this kind of immigration make our country better?"

    Replies: @duncsbaby, @Anonymous

    In fairness to Turks in the US, as opposed to Muslim countries sending refugees, I imagine the caliber of immigrants on average is rather high. I actually have worked with many secular Turks in the US and Europe who are educated and pretty western seeming. I don’t think we are generally getting the lower class central Anatolian peasants like Germany

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Anonymous

    Good point! So the Turks about to come here will be less likely to live life as non-murderous malefactors. I can barely contain my glee!

    , @Triumph104
    @Anonymous

    Journalist Cenk Uygur came to the US from Turkey at the age of 8. He played football in high school, has degrees from Wharton and Columbia Law, was raised Muslim but is now agnostic, and married an ethnic Chinese woman.

    He says that uneducated Turks went to Germany because it was easy for them to immigrate. Turks who wanted to come to the US needed to have a lot more going for them.

    https://youtu.be/DQlgG6d0rO0?t=248

  99. @antipater_1
    OT but.....

    Does anyone know what Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell actually do in life?
    I've heard they are important and powerful politicians in Washington DC.
    Does anyone have more information?

    Replies: @Trelane, @Neil Templeton, @S. Anonyia

    Paul Ryan is a trophy husband for an oil heiress.

  100. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    This can't be right. All the press reports said that it was a Hispanic or Latino man, not a Muslim.

    Replies: @snorlax, @res, @S. Anonyia, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Has the press even bothered to correct their mistake? Doesn’t look like it, I guess they want people to keep thinking he was hispanic.

  101. @Parbes
    @Kaz

    It was the U.S. that ruined Afghanistan, with its unqualified support of the most retrograde, backward tribal-Islamist elements of that country, the Afghan mujahideen, throughout the Cold War and especially during the Afghan War of the 1980s. The Afghan socialists, whom the USSR backed, would have secularized and socially modernized Afghanistan - if left alone free from outside interference, that is... Butt - NOOO: The U.S. just HAD to go in and support and romanticize the medieval tribal Islamist savages of Afghanistan as "noble anti-communist freedom-fighters" - and funnel jihadis like Bin Laden from all over the Middle East to help them in their "holy war", in collusion with those bastion-of-civilization U.S. allies, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

    It's interesting and disgusting, how you unreconstructed U.S. chauvinist-exceptionalist types do a shape-shift/bait-and-switch in the blink of an eye and manage to turn around and put the blame for undeniable U.S. sins on "the other side", always... You guys need to be exterminated like bugs.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jack D

    The Afghan socialists, whom the USSR backed, would have secularized and socially modernized Afghanistan

    I don’t think this was ever going to work, for the same reason that it didn’t work in Turkey or Pakistan or Iran or Lebanon or any other Muslim country . In all of these countries you had a Westernized urban elite who had the potential to create a modern society but as soon as people became Westernized they adopted Western breeding patterns (1 or 2 kids). Meanwhile, you had a group out in the countryside that was barely touched by Westernization and they continued to breed in the traditional way and were in thrall to religious leaders opposed to modernism. And the countryside won the war of the cradle everywhere. It was a race against the clock to modernize the countryside and the race was lost everywhere. Afghanistan was particularly backward and was an unlikely candidate for complete Westernization. Just because there was once a small nucleus of Westernization in Kabul does not prove that it was going to spread. The Russians’ heavy handed tactics sure didn’t help endear secularism to the Afghans.

    I’ll bet you could model this fairly easily in terms of different birth rates for city and country and different rates of spread of modernization to the countryside and with certain values the scale would tip the other way but apparently these values were never achieved in an Muslim country to date. Turkey came close, but not quite.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @Jack D

    The US and the British before them support the House of Saud. The House of Saud has now spent 100 years spreading Wahhabi Islam far and wide. The money for this has come from Saudi Arabia's oil wealth. The political cover for this has come from its long-term alliance with the US and Britain. They work hard at radicalizing any community of Sunni Muslims they can get at. Sunni radicalism does not bubble up out of the rocks. It is planted, watered, and lovingly tended by Saudi Arabian farmers.

    All this talk about the forces of history & demography and the inherent awfulness of Islam is a distraction from the clear policy of the US and Saudi Arabia to radicalize as much of Sunni Islam as they possibly can and to remove any secular ruler who gets in their way. The whole discussion of Islam in the West, with the left saying they love it and the right saying they hate it, is farcical.

    What's weird about all this is that it isn't even particularly hidden. The US didn't try to hide its support of the head-choppers in Afghanistan. The US makes only the most pro forma efforts to hide its support for the head-choppers in Syria. The US deposed Saddam Hussein, leading to battle of the head-choppers in Iraq. Mubarak was taken out of power in Egypt, over no US objection, by head-choppers (the Israelis seem to have convinced us to change our minds there) SA makes virtually no effort to hide its world-wide support of head-choppers.

    The Islamic Golden Age didn't happen. Relative to Christianity & Europe, Islam and the Middle East suck. On the other hand, the model of Muslim societies as inevitably utterly degraded and savage is also wrong.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  102. The “news” lately provides bountiful instances of stereotypes being proved correct.
    Cousin marriages, that staple of middle eastern Muslim tradition, is only outranked perhaps by that more closeted tradition of diddling the boy relatives.
    This image purports to be that of the Washington state mall mass murderer, Arcan Cetin, The Turk.
    Evidently his Facebook page is being/has been scrubbed but not before someone captured this snippet which thrusts Turkish family values into the light of day.
    http://m.imgur.com/a/aisPx

  103. @duncsbaby
    @Jimi

    At first I was going to joke about the ability to pronounce Turkish names being a plus, but man, FIVE people have lost their lives due to an immigration system that is off the freakin' rails. Five more people I should say. Every day the total gets higher of American lives being taken people who are parasites on society at best & predators at worst. Man, five people dead & the left wing media wants to take away the only thing that will protect you from vermin such as this. We must pay for his sins. We are to blame.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Years ago, his excellency the Turkish ambassador to Germany was a certain Mustafa Kunt.

  104. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Clyde
    @Anonymous

    Great info and details! As a quick aside. From friends visiting the UK I understand more and more of their fish and chips shops are Pakistani run. They love them cash businesses (lots of fiddling on taxes) plus they can have their recently arrived Paki relatives work for them at slave wages!!! Plus don't forget how many Indian immigrants are in fact Muslim. Many Indian restaurants here (USA) seem Muslim run.

    Replies: @Lurker, @Anonymous

    These days, the traditional British fish and chip shop are few and far between.
    I say ‘traditional British’, but in London, at least, for the past half century or so, most were run by Greek Cypriots or Italians.
    Alas, second generation Cypriots and Italians have no interest in running these establishments, so they are vanishing.
    Generic, Pakistani run fried chicken joints are legion and are sprouting up like mushrooms after the rain. Every high street has got at least a half dozen of them. Their clientele are predominately chavs, who graze like cattle on that horrible food, and black people.
    The other day, in London’s east end, an immigrant Czech was beaten to death outside a fried chicken joint by a pack of young blacks for ‘disrespect’.

    Such is life in Blair’s London.

  105. @Lurker
    @Anonymous

    I remember watching a documentary about the latter days of the Soviet mission in Afghanistan and forming a nagging suspicion for the first time that we (the west) were supporting the wrong side.

    Replies: @Lot

    In that particular war we were easily on the wrong side. But it certainly helped speed the USSR’s fall and was sweet payback for their support of Nork/NVA forces.

  106. Where to begin with this wreck of an immigrant?

    Ahmed represents so many things wrong with lower class muslim immigration-significant percentage of their children are low achieving and will contribute negatively to America. He went ghetto first and impregnated a low achieving hispanic girl who now has to be supported by the state. Than he changed course married/impregnated a low achieving afghan girl. So America got a negative twofer out of him in addition to his terrorism.

    It’s weird how so many afghan and Pakistani Muslims force their children to marry from the home country. Most immigrant kids I know would not think to marry from their parent’s homeland because they don’t want anyone who reminds them of their parents.
    Noticed that many second generation Afghan immigrants seem to want to be cops-the florida guy did, and now this guy. A tendency for machismo and militancy maybe? America is a hard bleak place if you are a low achieving uneducated brown male or even white male really. For these guys it is all low paying jobs, high rent, restraining orders, manipulative girlfriends and child support payments. All this and tyrannical parents can drive anyone to the edge-with a little shove from Islamism.

    All the good done by the best selling book The Kite Runner written by a upper class Afghan doctor did to show a sympathetic side of Afghan refugees has been undone. Still, there are quite a few highly educated second generation Muslims around here..very hip and whitey and all, and they seem to find each other and marry. But their lower class cousins clearly leave a lot to be desired.

    The ones who are here are here.. BUT..America has to do something about the disastrous family chain migration. Are Americans aware that there are quite a few immigrants who divorce their first wife, marry another one and bring her to american too with her children? Ya..I think it is Denmark who makes it close to impossible to bring a spouse from overseas…not a bad idea if done right. This is where Trump can help.

    What a mess.

    • Replies: @Hidden Cat
    @merema

    If it is Denmark that makes it hard to bring a spouse along, it may not apply to "refugee" status. Just in recent months they admitted a 47 year old Syrian male... along with one wife and 8 children. He applied to bring two more wives and the balance of his children, 14, for a total of 22. I gather the Danes are not happy at all ... and in any case they will regret it forever. Lastly, he claims to be too disabled to work or even take Danish lessons.

    Poor Europe, slitting their own collective throat. As are we.

  107. @Jack D
    @The Alarmist

    The left is well aware that each Muslim shooting/bombing plays into Trump's narrative (and gains him votes) and they are spinning like crazy to downplay each one. Their fondest hope is that the perp is a white guy - they pray each night to their atheist god - next time let it be a white guy! Before the perp is caught, he is never identified as a Muslim in the press - Cetin was described as "Hispanic". Not even "Hispanic or possibly Middle Eastern" but just flat out Hispanic.

    Then when they catch the guy, that spin, like Hillary's "overheating", is no longer operative and they fall back on the idea that, while yes, he was born a Muslim, the guy grew up here and was "Westernized" - just a regular American guy who played video games and wore his baseball cap backwards. He was bullied at school, could not find his place in America, caught between two cultures, yada yada so he turned to the dark side. It was America's fault really.

    Personally, I think it just makes them look stupid that they play the line "it's not a Muslim, not a Muslim, not a Muslim....ooops it's a Muslim" over and over again but the leftist press doesn't seem to think so. The same thing happens with almost all of the BLM shootings - "he didn't have a gun, they shot an unarmed man, he a good boy .....oops he had a gun and a record a mile long police record." But again this doesn't seem to make any difference.

    On Scott Adams blog he has a post up saying that the ability to perceive reality accurately does not necessarily increase reproductive fitness and therefore humans are not really evolved to perceive reality.

    Replies: @larry lurker

    I started listening to the Skagit County police scanner about an hour after the shooting occurred. The description that went out was: “Hispanic male, 20 to 25 years old, 5’9, skinny build, messy black hair, black shirt.”

    It sounded like officers had only just arrived at the scene. If so, they wouldn’t have had time to pull the security footage yet, so I’m assuming the description came from an eyewitness. The description was reinforced by a caller who reported that a Hispanic male who fit the description of the suspect had tried to enter their house through a locked back door.

    So in this particular instance I think they were just working with the info that they had. He doesn’t look all that Hispanic in the security camera captures, but I can understand why you wouldn’t want to second-guess an eyewitness’s description based on some grainy images.

  108. @snorlax
    @Jack D

    In fairness, he's very Hispanic in appearance. Also seems to be semi-retarded and/or speaks very little English, judging by his social media postings.

    Replies: @Marty

    He’s not remotely Hispanic in appearance. Instead, he looks just like many south Asians.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Marty

    "He’s not remotely Hispanic in appearance. Instead, he looks just like many south Asians."

    To many blond Northern Europeans, Middle Easterners dressed in Western clothes and Latinos often look alike.

  109. I didn’t know Afghanistan had a “best” to send us. All of those people are ticking time bombs and should be sent back.

  110. @AndrewR
    @anon

    I doubt Somalians are any better. If I had to choose I'd take Afghanis because they're a lot whiter.

    And say what you want about the Taliban but at least they banned bachi bazi.

    Replies: @BB753, @Lot, @Jefferson, @DCThrowback

    I doubt Somalians are any better. If I had to choose I’d take Afghanis because they’re a lot whiter.

    If we did over the next 50 years probably 2/3 would just blend into the white underclass, which is also increasingly partly assimilated hispanic.

    • Replies: @Perspective
    @Lot

    No, the Muslim barrier is too difficult to break through from what I can tell. A few white women and men might convert to Islam to marry their Afghan bride/groom but it would be a vanishingly small number. The Afghans I know aren't anti-white at all, just very tribal and religious (at least when they marry). I've heard a few unabashedly express anti-black and anti-Indian sentiments.

    A used to work with two Afghans, a brother and sister, who were actually fun to hang around with at times. The Afghan woman was very fiery and it was admittedly fun to provoke her. Her reactions were quite similar to the wild woman Maldita Lisiada on that Mexican soap Steve posted once on here, Maria la del Barrio. Before marriage she went to Vegas and expressed an interest in getting a tattoo, I remember hearing someone remark that you could drop her in a trailer park and she would blend right in. This all changed when she married, her husband made her get off social media and changed her phone number. Last I saw of her she was covered in sheets and had her three children screaming and running in circles around her. Some Afghans may dip their toes in the degenerate side of Western culture when their parents backs are turned, but in the long run the family and culture/religion takes control.

    , @Anonymous
    @Lot

    Just because those white and Hispanic marriages occur among people in the lower half of the income distribution or among those without degrees doesn't make them underclass. Hispanics are intermarrying in mass with DT country, whites who didn't graduate from college and move to a coastal metropolis.

  111. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    And they don't even get franchise fees - the restaurant format is copycat. The most successful Afghan fried chicken chain is "Kennedy Fried Chicken". It would be poetic justice if it was named in honor of Ted in appreciation of his efforts on Hart-Celler, but most Afghans are really not that well versed in American history and the name is (nominally) in honor of JFK, but really because it is confusingly similar to Kentucky.

    Afghans are resistant to the rule of law. Not only do they refuse to pay for a KFC franchise, they won't even pay for a Kennedy Fried Chicken franchise either:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/14/nyregion/14chicken.html?_r=0

    Afghans really prefer to eat lamb but Americans don't really love lamb (especially not ghetto-Americans - most Afghan fried chicken places are in AA neighborhoods) so fried chicken it is. Another job Americans don't want to do - staying up late to sell bad fried chicken to ghetto dwellers and hoping not to get shot in a holdup. Afghans come over and learn the ropes at another Afghan's chicken place and after a few years they open their own. You staff it with family, declare little income and the smarter ones can own several and pay for fancy weddings for their children and really shiny furniture. Rahimi Sr. was not one of the smarter ones.

    Replies: @Ivy

    Is Kennedy Fried Chicken fully cooked when it bobs to the surface? Or does it need to be submerged again?

  112. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    While it is true that Judaism allows cousin marriage, I don't get the feeling that it was all that common among Ashkenazi Jews. Jews were more influenced by the laws and customs of the places that they lived than you might imagine. Jews living in Christendom adopted monogamy even though Jewish law originally permitted multiple wives. For one thing, if you did something that was permitted by Jewish law but not by the civil law of the country in which you lived, you could end up being punished.

    Cousin marriage is not usually associated with high intelligence, or if it can be, then the conventional wisdom of cousin marriage being a really bad thing is wrong. Or maybe it depends on who the cousins are to begin with. If the cousins are both violent tribesmen then you get extra violent tribesmen, but if they are both scholarly types then you get extra scholarly offspring. Jews do show some signs of inbreeding in terms of having strange genetic diseases - these diseases tend to be neurological and may be of the type where if you get one copy of the gene it's good (for intelligence) but two copies are bad.

    Replies: @Ivy

    A few centuries of shtetl in-breeding could do that. “Boychik, you shall marry Rachel tomorrow, even if she is your cousin and the family has illnesses”.

  113. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    The Rahimi's and their 8 children were just what America needed. Who would bring fried chicken to the ghettos of the Northeast if not for them? Who would shoplift from Filene's if not for his daughters (the Tsarnaevs women also had arrests for shoplifting, etc.) ? Who would stiff Macy's for $46,000 if not for them? Who would cheat on their taxes and claim to make only $1,400/month while owning a restaurant if not for them? Who would serve as a baby daddy and not pay child support if not for them? If Mama Rahimi was not arrested for child abuse, how could we maintain full employment in the prison/social work industry?

    Long before Ahmad starting leaving pressure cooker bombs around the NY metro area, it was clear that once again America was enriched by the Rahimi clan and their authentic Afghan style fried chicken.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Thomas O. Meehan

    Actually the restaurant is located in the Elmora section of Elizabeth, a formerly Jewish neighborhood. You could argue that the whole of that city is now “a
    ghetto,” I was born there 68 years ago and it was then an industrial and commuter city with quite distinct neighborhoods. We had slums and we had people on the social register.

    Thanks to Black migration and wave after wave of immigration, it’s just a good place to have left now. No one I grew up with or their families lives their anymore.

  114. @Hidden Cat
    @penntothal


    The Helmand, long a popular Afghan restaurant in Baltimore, was owned by the Karzai family, who would later be installed in Kabul after the coalition war.
     
    Wonder how many cities have a Karzai family owned "Helmand" restaurant... ? We had one here, for a couple of decades, on the tourist end of Broadway in North Beach. A land and rock slide from Telegraph Hill compromised the building it was in, some years ago. No idea if they re-established it. Also said to be owned by a "Karzai brother".

    Replies: @Thomas O. Meehan

    I was told that there was one in Philadelphia, close to 30th Street Station.

  115. @merema
    Where to begin with this wreck of an immigrant?

    Ahmed represents so many things wrong with lower class muslim immigration-significant percentage of their children are low achieving and will contribute negatively to America. He went ghetto first and impregnated a low achieving hispanic girl who now has to be supported by the state. Than he changed course married/impregnated a low achieving afghan girl. So America got a negative twofer out of him in addition to his terrorism.

    It's weird how so many afghan and Pakistani Muslims force their children to marry from the home country. Most immigrant kids I know would not think to marry from their parent's homeland because they don't want anyone who reminds them of their parents.
    Noticed that many second generation Afghan immigrants seem to want to be cops-the florida guy did, and now this guy. A tendency for machismo and militancy maybe? America is a hard bleak place if you are a low achieving uneducated brown male or even white male really. For these guys it is all low paying jobs, high rent, restraining orders, manipulative girlfriends and child support payments. All this and tyrannical parents can drive anyone to the edge-with a little shove from Islamism.

    All the good done by the best selling book The Kite Runner written by a upper class Afghan doctor did to show a sympathetic side of Afghan refugees has been undone. Still, there are quite a few highly educated second generation Muslims around here..very hip and whitey and all, and they seem to find each other and marry. But their lower class cousins clearly leave a lot to be desired.

    The ones who are here are here.. BUT..America has to do something about the disastrous family chain migration. Are Americans aware that there are quite a few immigrants who divorce their first wife, marry another one and bring her to american too with her children? Ya..I think it is Denmark who makes it close to impossible to bring a spouse from overseas...not a bad idea if done right. This is where Trump can help.

    What a mess.

    Replies: @Hidden Cat

    If it is Denmark that makes it hard to bring a spouse along, it may not apply to “refugee” status. Just in recent months they admitted a 47 year old Syrian male… along with one wife and 8 children. He applied to bring two more wives and the balance of his children, 14, for a total of 22. I gather the Danes are not happy at all … and in any case they will regret it forever. Lastly, he claims to be too disabled to work or even take Danish lessons.

    Poor Europe, slitting their own collective throat. As are we.

  116. @Lot
    @AndrewR


    I doubt Somalians are any better. If I had to choose I’d take Afghanis because they’re a lot whiter.
     
    If we did over the next 50 years probably 2/3 would just blend into the white underclass, which is also increasingly partly assimilated hispanic.

    Replies: @Perspective, @Anonymous

    No, the Muslim barrier is too difficult to break through from what I can tell. A few white women and men might convert to Islam to marry their Afghan bride/groom but it would be a vanishingly small number. The Afghans I know aren’t anti-white at all, just very tribal and religious (at least when they marry). I’ve heard a few unabashedly express anti-black and anti-Indian sentiments.

    A used to work with two Afghans, a brother and sister, who were actually fun to hang around with at times. The Afghan woman was very fiery and it was admittedly fun to provoke her. Her reactions were quite similar to the wild woman Maldita Lisiada on that Mexican soap Steve posted once on here, Maria la del Barrio. Before marriage she went to Vegas and expressed an interest in getting a tattoo, I remember hearing someone remark that you could drop her in a trailer park and she would blend right in. This all changed when she married, her husband made her get off social media and changed her phone number. Last I saw of her she was covered in sheets and had her three children screaming and running in circles around her. Some Afghans may dip their toes in the degenerate side of Western culture when their parents backs are turned, but in the long run the family and culture/religion takes control.

  117. @Parbes
    @Lot

    He is also a Zio-con worshipping, neocon fool.

    Replies: @Stan

    Spencer sings the praises of Israel and parrots neocon drivel to earn his $150,000 annual salary from David Horowitz.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Stan

    Any evidence?

  118. @AndrewR
    @anon

    I doubt Somalians are any better. If I had to choose I'd take Afghanis because they're a lot whiter.

    And say what you want about the Taliban but at least they banned bachi bazi.

    Replies: @BB753, @Lot, @Jefferson, @DCThrowback

    “I doubt Somalians are any better. If I had to choose I’d take Afghanis because they’re a lot whiter.”

    I would choose neither. AFGHANISTAN HAS A LOWER HUMAN DEVELOPMENT INDEX THAN MOST BLACK AS MIDNIGHT SUB SAHARAN AFRICAN COUNTRIES.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop

    Afghanis are so backwards and poor that they make Mixed Race Latin Americans look as successful as Ashkenazi Jews.

  119. @Marty
    @snorlax

    He's not remotely Hispanic in appearance. Instead, he looks just like many south Asians.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “He’s not remotely Hispanic in appearance. Instead, he looks just like many south Asians.”

    To many blond Northern Europeans, Middle Easterners dressed in Western clothes and Latinos often look alike.

  120. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    This can't be right. All the press reports said that it was a Hispanic or Latino man, not a Muslim.

    Replies: @snorlax, @res, @S. Anonyia, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Are you sure his name isn’t Haven Monahan?

  121. @Anonymous
    @Jimi

    In fairness to Turks in the US, as opposed to Muslim countries sending refugees, I imagine the caliber of immigrants on average is rather high. I actually have worked with many secular Turks in the US and Europe who are educated and pretty western seeming. I don't think we are generally getting the lower class central Anatolian peasants like Germany

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Triumph104

    Good point! So the Turks about to come here will be less likely to live life as non-murderous malefactors. I can barely contain my glee!

  122. @Anonymous
    @Jimi

    In fairness to Turks in the US, as opposed to Muslim countries sending refugees, I imagine the caliber of immigrants on average is rather high. I actually have worked with many secular Turks in the US and Europe who are educated and pretty western seeming. I don't think we are generally getting the lower class central Anatolian peasants like Germany

    Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson, @Triumph104

    Journalist Cenk Uygur came to the US from Turkey at the age of 8. He played football in high school, has degrees from Wharton and Columbia Law, was raised Muslim but is now agnostic, and married an ethnic Chinese woman.

    He says that uneducated Turks went to Germany because it was easy for them to immigrate. Turks who wanted to come to the US needed to have a lot more going for them.

  123. @Stan
    @Parbes

    Spencer sings the praises of Israel and parrots neocon drivel to earn his $150,000 annual salary from David Horowitz.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Any evidence?

  124. @penntothal
    @Anonymous

    Re: restaurants and "Afghan takeover":

    The Helmand, long a popular Afghan restaurant in Baltimore, was owned by the Karzai family, who would later be installed in Kabul after the coalition war.

    http://www.citypaper.com/news/features/bcp-qayum-karzais-life-is-split-between-his-baltimore-restaurants-and-his-native-afghanistan-20150303-story.html

    Replies: @Hidden Cat, @Brutusale

    There’s been one in Cambridge, MA for years. They’re owned by Hamid’s brother Mahmood. If memory serves, he was investigated by the feds for corruption.

    Yeah, memory served:

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748703694204575518291112830512

  125. @Lot
    @AndrewR


    I doubt Somalians are any better. If I had to choose I’d take Afghanis because they’re a lot whiter.
     
    If we did over the next 50 years probably 2/3 would just blend into the white underclass, which is also increasingly partly assimilated hispanic.

    Replies: @Perspective, @Anonymous

    Just because those white and Hispanic marriages occur among people in the lower half of the income distribution or among those without degrees doesn’t make them underclass. Hispanics are intermarrying in mass with DT country, whites who didn’t graduate from college and move to a coastal metropolis.

  126. @Jack D
    @Parbes


    The Afghan socialists, whom the USSR backed, would have secularized and socially modernized Afghanistan
     
    I don't think this was ever going to work, for the same reason that it didn't work in Turkey or Pakistan or Iran or Lebanon or any other Muslim country . In all of these countries you had a Westernized urban elite who had the potential to create a modern society but as soon as people became Westernized they adopted Western breeding patterns (1 or 2 kids). Meanwhile, you had a group out in the countryside that was barely touched by Westernization and they continued to breed in the traditional way and were in thrall to religious leaders opposed to modernism. And the countryside won the war of the cradle everywhere. It was a race against the clock to modernize the countryside and the race was lost everywhere. Afghanistan was particularly backward and was an unlikely candidate for complete Westernization. Just because there was once a small nucleus of Westernization in Kabul does not prove that it was going to spread. The Russians' heavy handed tactics sure didn't help endear secularism to the Afghans.

    I'll bet you could model this fairly easily in terms of different birth rates for city and country and different rates of spread of modernization to the countryside and with certain values the scale would tip the other way but apparently these values were never achieved in an Muslim country to date. Turkey came close, but not quite.

    Replies: @Bill

    The US and the British before them support the House of Saud. The House of Saud has now spent 100 years spreading Wahhabi Islam far and wide. The money for this has come from Saudi Arabia’s oil wealth. The political cover for this has come from its long-term alliance with the US and Britain. They work hard at radicalizing any community of Sunni Muslims they can get at. Sunni radicalism does not bubble up out of the rocks. It is planted, watered, and lovingly tended by Saudi Arabian farmers.

    All this talk about the forces of history & demography and the inherent awfulness of Islam is a distraction from the clear policy of the US and Saudi Arabia to radicalize as much of Sunni Islam as they possibly can and to remove any secular ruler who gets in their way. The whole discussion of Islam in the West, with the left saying they love it and the right saying they hate it, is farcical.

    What’s weird about all this is that it isn’t even particularly hidden. The US didn’t try to hide its support of the head-choppers in Afghanistan. The US makes only the most pro forma efforts to hide its support for the head-choppers in Syria. The US deposed Saddam Hussein, leading to battle of the head-choppers in Iraq. Mubarak was taken out of power in Egypt, over no US objection, by head-choppers (the Israelis seem to have convinced us to change our minds there) SA makes virtually no effort to hide its world-wide support of head-choppers.

    The Islamic Golden Age didn’t happen. Relative to Christianity & Europe, Islam and the Middle East suck. On the other hand, the model of Muslim societies as inevitably utterly degraded and savage is also wrong.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Bill

    Why wasn't the Islamic Golden Age great?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  127. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    How much of the last fifteen years of trouble we've had in the Middle East could have been avoided if we had just let the Soviets dig their own quagmire in Afghanistan ? It's a question that doesn't get asked enough.

    Replies: @Lurker, @AndrewR

    >Implying the Russians could have maintained imperialism in Afghanistan after the cold ware nded

  128. @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    It's very simple; no one named Mohammad (or any variation) gets admitted into our country. For admissions purposes, Mohammad equals NO!-hammad.

    Replies: @Clyde

    It’s very simple; no one named Mohammad (or any variation) gets admitted into our country.

    Agree and these are the Mohamed variations according to wikedpedia:
    4.1 Mohamad
    4.2 Mohamed
    4.3 Mohammad
    4.4 Mohammed
    4.5 Muhamad
    4.6 Muhamed
    4.7 Muhammad
    4.8 Muhammed
    4.9 Muhammet

    I would add Ahmed, Achmed and Mahmoud. There must be others

  129. @AndrewR
    @anon

    I doubt Somalians are any better. If I had to choose I'd take Afghanis because they're a lot whiter.

    And say what you want about the Taliban but at least they banned bachi bazi.

    Replies: @BB753, @Lot, @Jefferson, @DCThrowback

    …and heroin, which is what probably got the CIA’s attention in the first place

  130. @anon930
    From Team McMullin:

    https://twitter.com/TeamMcMullin/status/779873630712848384

    The word "reform" should be a red flag in the mind of any good thinking person. We all know what "immigration reform" is code for. It seems like "criminal justice reform" means more leniency because mass incarceration blah blah Genius T. Coates blah blah Michelle Alexander blah blah.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Bugg, @duncsbaby, @penntothal, @Jefferson

    “The word “reform” should be a red flag in the mind of any good thinking person. We all know what “immigration reform” is code for. It seems like “criminal justice reform” means more leniency because mass incarceration blah blah Genius T. Coates blah blah Michelle Alexander blah blah.”

    Evan McMullin is the Lindsey Graham of the general election, as in during their runs for the presidency both have failed to crack even 1 percent support among the American people.

    Evan McMullin is trailing behind Jill Stein.

  131. @Bill
    @Jack D

    The US and the British before them support the House of Saud. The House of Saud has now spent 100 years spreading Wahhabi Islam far and wide. The money for this has come from Saudi Arabia's oil wealth. The political cover for this has come from its long-term alliance with the US and Britain. They work hard at radicalizing any community of Sunni Muslims they can get at. Sunni radicalism does not bubble up out of the rocks. It is planted, watered, and lovingly tended by Saudi Arabian farmers.

    All this talk about the forces of history & demography and the inherent awfulness of Islam is a distraction from the clear policy of the US and Saudi Arabia to radicalize as much of Sunni Islam as they possibly can and to remove any secular ruler who gets in their way. The whole discussion of Islam in the West, with the left saying they love it and the right saying they hate it, is farcical.

    What's weird about all this is that it isn't even particularly hidden. The US didn't try to hide its support of the head-choppers in Afghanistan. The US makes only the most pro forma efforts to hide its support for the head-choppers in Syria. The US deposed Saddam Hussein, leading to battle of the head-choppers in Iraq. Mubarak was taken out of power in Egypt, over no US objection, by head-choppers (the Israelis seem to have convinced us to change our minds there) SA makes virtually no effort to hide its world-wide support of head-choppers.

    The Islamic Golden Age didn't happen. Relative to Christianity & Europe, Islam and the Middle East suck. On the other hand, the model of Muslim societies as inevitably utterly degraded and savage is also wrong.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Why wasn’t the Islamic Golden Age great?

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Anonymous

    Because it was run by Muslims? Just a guess . . .

  132. @Anonymous
    @Bill

    Why wasn't the Islamic Golden Age great?

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Because it was run by Muslims? Just a guess . . .

  133. @Anonymous
    seriously, I give up. wtf is wrong with us?

    Replies: @Olorin

    Letting women’s emotions run men’s institutions.

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