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From my new column in Taki’s Magazine:

What’s the Matter With Wisconsin?
by Steve Sailer
August 17, 2016

The celebrated Black Lives Matter movement chalked up another riot over the weekend, this time in Milwaukee.

A black cop shot an armed black criminal and much passive-voice news reporting ensued. … A beauty salon was stripped of its hair extensions and then torched.

… To calm tensions, the dead man’s sister went before the cameras and called for peace in the black community in a memorable speech:

Video Link

“Burnin’ down shit ain’t going to help nothin’! Y’all burnin’ down shit we need in our community. Take that shit to the suburbs. Burn that shit down! We need our shit! We need our weaves. [Pause] I don’t wear it. But we need it.”

The respectable press edited the sister’s lament that “We need our weaves” down to “Don’t bring violence here.”

The mainstream media quickly followed up with many think pieces trying to explain exactly what nastiness the seemingly nice white people of Wisconsin had committed that forces Milwaukee blacks to behave so badly.

Read the whole thing there.

 
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  1. She does not seem very nice.

    • Agree: Patrick Harris
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @avraham


    She does not seem very nice.
     
    She isn't *designed* to be nice. She hasn't even undergone much of the "try to keep a man" selection--either in Africa or in the last few "welfare generations" here--that makes the company of women occasionally quite charming.

    ~~

    "What's the matter with Wisconsin" is exactly what's the matter with social democratic welfare states in general: they make no sense, without eugenics. It's common sense, if your going to remove a bunch of the nastiness that did selection for "middle classness", you have to replace it with eugenic program ... or that "middle classness" you value will be a thing of the past. The welfare state within a generation reversed the progress blacks had made in the previous 100 toward white norms and unleashed their inner-African.

    The WASPy Progressives of 100 years ago, at least had a clear sense that their societal improvement should be accompanied by suppressing the fertility of the losers, crazies, criminals and incompetents. (Encouraging people like my Irish ancestors and blacks to stop having so many kids was a core part of the program.)

    Unfortunately, this more or less coherent progressive vision has been replaced by a leftist\Jewish\post-holocaust\anti-eugenic\anti-genetic "progressive" vision where genes don't matter, and we literally pay stupid people to have kids.

    You couple this with 2nd wave--frustrated Jewish housewife--and then 3rd, 4th wave--academic lesbian--feminism and smart women female careerism uber alles ... and you have a eugenic disaster.

    And then, of course, you pile on with the mass importation of low skill (skewing low IQ) 3rd worlders ... and we're headed over the cliff.

    Of course--one of the benefits of our new tolerant progressive elites--pointing out what a complete eugenic disaster all these policies makes you "racist, racist, racist!" ... practically a Nazi, if not "Hitler!" himself.

    We have social policies that are so stupid, they can only be maintained by absolute thought policing, vitriol and calumny, cause if very many people thought seriously about them, they'd be derided endlessly and chucked forthwith.
  2. She makes Rodney King look like Martin Luther King:

  3. Give them their weaves I say. For Christ sake give them their damn weaves.

  4. Milwaukee is only 37% white now?

    ScheiĂźe!

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @wren


    Milwaukee is only 37% white now?

    ScheiĂźe!
     
    Yeah, I passed through Milwaukee on Amtrack last November, and thought, gee, what a neat, quaint little waterfront area...maybe we should visit Milwaukee sometime?

    I'll pass.
  5. “And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C.”

    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @Jefferson

    Herb Kohl
    Russ Feingold

    , @Gross Terry
    @Jefferson

    there is more than you'd suppose.

    At UW-Madison, they actually have a racial slur dedicated to east coast transplants: Coasties. It caused a bit of a ruckus a few years back.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastie


    Of course, in the last few years the coastie menace has become a non-issue, because like 30% of the students are now Chinese, who are far richer and more foreign than ellis island arrivistes.

    , @SMK
    @Jefferson

    The most influential "conservative" intellectual in Wisconsin and Milwaukee is Charlie Sykes, a libertarian/neoconservative "invade the world/invite the world" author/talk-show host and anti-Trump fanatic. Allied with Mark Belling, another Milwaukee talk-show host and "truconservative," it's possible that Sykes was to blame for Trump's defeat and Cruz's victory in the Wisconsin primary.

    , @syonredux
    @Jefferson


    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.
     
    I'm sorry, but this is a very silly statement.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/zatoichi, @Jefferson

    , @syonredux
    @Jefferson


    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.
     
    Extremely dysfunctional Blacks vs high performing Japhetic Whites:

    The six largest ancestry groups in Wisconsin are: German (42.6%), Irish (10.9%), Polish (9.3%), Norwegian (8.5%), English (6.5%), and Italian (6.1%).[65] German is the most common ancestry in every county in the state, except Menominee, Trempealeau and Vernon.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin#Ethnicity
    , @syonredux
    @Jefferson

    Since I hate waiting


    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

     

    Extremely dysfunctional Blacks vs high performing Japhetic Whites:

    The six largest ancestry groups in Wisconsin are: German (42.6%), Irish (10.9%), Polish (9.3%), Norwegian (8.5%), English (6.5%), and Italian (6.1%).[65] German is the most common ancestry in every county in the state, except Menominee, Trempealeau and Vernon.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin#Ethnicity

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    , @Bill
    @Jefferson

    Like syonredux said, Germans are smart.

    , @Mike Zwick
    @Jefferson

    Golda Meir was from Milwaukee's North Side. According to the Jewish Virtual Library, there were 28255 Jews in Wisconsin as of 2014.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    , @Stan Adams
    @Jefferson

    There are some goys with triple-digit IQs, you know.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    , @Jay Fink
    @Jefferson

    I grew up in a Northshore suburb of Milwaukee (Fox Point). Between my family, neighbors, parent's friends, and schoolmates I was actually under the impression as a child that Jews were the majority of the population!

    I remember begging my mom to let me go to the local YMCA Camp Minikani instead of the Jewish camp everyone I knew was going to. I wanted to do my part to help the Christian minority I thought. "Christian camp, Christian camp" I would chant until my mother finally agreed. I had a very fun time there in the Summer of 1979 and have fond memories of it. Yet that camp did have some actual Christian rituals and ceremonies which freaked me out!

    , @Olorin
    @Jefferson


    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin,
     
    Hate to bust your psychometric bubble, but Wisconsin's white population includes in the majority the smartest white people on the planet--Northern/NW Europeans.

    We're not allowed to observe that, since "white" IQ is always an amalgam of everybody from Finns and Germans to Balkans, North Africans, and Arabs.

    On the how many Jews issue, I'll say more presently.

  6. If Trump actually had some sort of political organization, there’d be ads running already with this weave lady and her comments.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "If Trump actually had some sort of political organization, there’d be ads running already with this weave lady and her comments."

    Why is multi-billionaire Donald Trump running his presidential campaign similar to a low budget art house independent film like The Blair Witch Project? His campaign comes off looking like a 3rd Party run with a shoestring budget.

    Meanwhile Hildabeast is running her presidential campaign like it has the blockbuster budget of Star Wars Episode 7 The Force Awakens.

    Replies: @Ulick McGee, @bigbadwolf, @Jack Hanson, @Bill, @Daniel H

    , @Johan Schmidt
    @Anonymous

    The last thing Trump needs to do right now is to give free passes to the people yelling he's an evil racist bigot. We have an alternative media in the country that is getting the word out. Anyone seeing this stuff will be drawn to the right conclusions without Trump needing to wedge his oar in.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @South Texas Guy, @South Texas Guy, @AndrewR, @Anonymous

    , @South Texas Guy
    @Anonymous

    That was going to be my comment exactly. However, I wonder how many, or if any at all, swing state TV stations would show the commercial?

  7. Just as in Baltimore, the “elite” media will endorse progroms against Asian businesses because SOMETHING, SOMETHING, SOMETHING.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Clifford Brown

    "Progroms against Asian businesses", nice neologism.

  8. Sorry for an OT so early on, but I tried to tell you people about this…

    With this person it isn’t “nationalism for me, not for thee” it’s “nationalism for no one”.

    “OSF has funded multiple organizations over many years that deny Israel’s right to exist or seek to delegitimize the Jewish state, often by advancing anti-Semitic language and themes, as part of a deliberate strategy.”

    http://www.thetower.org/3786-massive-soros-funding-behind-efforts-to-tar-israeli-democracy-leaks-show/

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @Talpiot/Ullastret

    Unless PM Netanyahu denounces Soros openly and repeatedly, and actually declares that historic ethnoreligious majorities in the West are just as important as his majorities in Israel, many here are not going to care.

    I don't consider myself to be Anti-Israel, and I really don't want to be. But if Trump loses, the neocons will be at fault, and I see no alternative than becoming the founder of a right-wing BDS movement.

    It's about self-determination.

    Replies: @Talpiot/Ullastret, @Jack D, @Matra

    , @schmenz
    @Talpiot/Ullastret

    I know that Soros is something of a "maverick" among Jewish oligarchs but I do find it difficult to accept that he would be openly against the Israeli occupation of the Holy Land. To me that seems out of character for him, despite what the leaks are suggesting.

    , @snorlax
    @Talpiot/Ullastret

    Your comment ties in well with the post about Maryland – I've never really got the fixation Steve has about how progressives let NYC off the hook to have "racist" police policies but not Ferguson, the late Larry Auster's concept of the "unprincipled exception," and so on.

    Actual SJWs[1] will make no secret, indeed, will loudly proclaim their demands that New York immediately be surrendered to criminals.

    Mike Bloomberg might have "unprincipled exceptions," but it's a real stretch to say he's an SJW (he'd be one of the first up against the wall), and an even bigger one to say he represents the country's ideological direction. If the polls are anything to go on, the next and presumably every future President will make Mike Bloomberg look like Milo Yiannopoulos.

    Indeed, far from being ignored, NYC is the number one target, the City of the World's Desire, the Constantinople, the Rome, the Paris, the Stalingrad when it comes to the anti-police campaign.

    It is the central focus of the propaganda – beloved-elder-statesman-Al-Sharpton, the repeat-it-often-enough-it-becomes-true mantra that "broken windows" tactics are "discredited," the whole leaded gasoline theory from a few years ago, the alleged post-Giuliani drop in "authenticity" and "soul," the "stop and frisk" lawsuits and concurrent trashing of Bloomberg on his way out,[2] the election of and brouhahas involving Bill de Blasio, the entire Eric Garner thing — I could go on but this is a hell of a run-on sentence already.

    Even Ferguson isn't really about Ferguson, or even flyover country. It's about providing a steady stream of propaganda for the New York Times devotees, most concentrated in, you only get one guess…

    The goal is still New York. But they don't want to show their cards too quickly.[3] If they go full-out frontal assault, with riots and DoJ consent decrees, they're going to risk a backlash. New York is big and important enough that when there's a sufficiently strong backlash, everyone everywhere is going to hear about it, and that can be enough to slow or reverse the best-made plans.

    Last time there was a backlash to NYC crime that everyone heard about,[4] the police/vigilante/crime genre took over the big and small screens for two decades, the word "liberal" became a term of abuse, Nixon and Reagan got elected and reelected, and, not least, Koch/Giuliani/Bloomberg spent a collective 32 years in Gracie Mansion.

    What St. Louis, or St. Trayvon's Central Florida haunts, or Baltimore, or Baton Rouge or even Staten Island[5] all have in common that they have no national media organs to speak of, few of their residents share the same social networks as NYT readers, and those few who do are protected from crime by affluence.

    The NYT can feel safe engaging its readers in a years-long struggle session pertaining to the high crimes occurring in suburban St. Louis, because even if they've totally trashed the place afterwards, their readers are never going to hear of it, and if they do they won't care.

    Such places thus offer a risk-free propaganda opportunity, strengthening the left's chances of Lindsay/Beame/Dinkins revanche not by diktat, a la the Warren Court, but by simply persuading the Nice White Boys and Ladies to dig their own graves. Seems to be going swimmingly so far.
    ---
    [1] And even, for the most part, ordinary Democrats, though this is related to the distinction between the two groups gradually disappearing.

    [2] Note how national media outlets uncharacteristically amplified the voices of conservative/libertarian mockers of Bloomberg's smoking bans, soda tax etc instead of running interference for him.

    [3] At least until this year's election or maybe 2020 seals the deal.

    [4] Yes, there were huge crime issues in many cities, but they didn't and don't have anything remotely near the media pull that New York does. Small-town and suburban America – most of the country – generally never had significant issues with crime; the zeitgeist there was set by whatever plausible-sounding echoes emanated from NYC.

    [5] Plenty of New Yorkers have visited Baltimore or Orlando more times than they have Staten Island.

  9. @Anonymous
    If Trump actually had some sort of political organization, there'd be ads running already with this weave lady and her comments.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Johan Schmidt, @South Texas Guy

    “If Trump actually had some sort of political organization, there’d be ads running already with this weave lady and her comments.”

    Why is multi-billionaire Donald Trump running his presidential campaign similar to a low budget art house independent film like The Blair Witch Project? His campaign comes off looking like a 3rd Party run with a shoestring budget.

    Meanwhile Hildabeast is running her presidential campaign like it has the blockbuster budget of Star Wars Episode 7 The Force Awakens.

    • Replies: @Ulick McGee
    @Jefferson

    Or, he is 300 and she is Girlbusters.

    , @bigbadwolf
    @Jefferson

    For starters, he's not a multi-billionaire (except in his idle boasting). And Hillary has all the authentic billionaires backing her. There is no comparison.

    , @Jack Hanson
    @Jefferson

    Oh give it a break. All these backseat commenters who haven't won anything beyond a participation medal who just "know" if they blather on about Spengler they will win the race.

    Yet again the media (and the doom masturbators here) declared Trump dead and now even the massaged polls are showing a dead heat. It's so bad that the media is back to recycling "Trump isn't even trying to win!" for the nth time.

    Trump beat 14 GOP idiots by realizing what Hillary and the people here have not : it's a marathon, not a sprint.

    Replies: @SteveRogers42

    , @Bill
    @Jefferson

    Because the oligarchs are not donating a lot to the ostensibly anti-oligarch candidate? The Koch brothers deciding to support Hillary was kind of an interesting happening.

    , @Daniel H
    @Jefferson

    So far, Trump has done ok ignoring the advice of the so-called experts who of course want him to spend a ton of money on themselves. I trust Trump's instincts. Still plenty of time. Spending a ton of money on ads right now would be just throwing it away. Let's wait until the debates and see how things develop. That is, if Hillary participates in the debates. I think that there is a remote possibility that she may try and duck some of the debates, claiming, with the support of the media, that Trump is not a serious candidate and not worthy of a presidential debate match-up.

  10. Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clark sure likes to wear cowboy hats a lot. He must be the rare Black Redneck. I would not be surprised if he likes to listen to Country music. He is definitely not a Dindu Nuffin type Negro.

    • Replies: @Seamus
    @Jefferson

    Look at his facial features. He's definitively got a honky or two in the woodpile.

    , @Purpleslog
    @Jefferson

    I am a county resident and a Clark voter. The cowboy hat thing is something all of the last few Milwaukee Sheriffs have done. Mostly, it is a little silly looking. It does look cool though when they are on horses in the local parades.

    , @SteveRogers42
    @Jefferson

    Should have been Veep. GOT to be FBI director. No statute of limitations, Hillary.

  11. @Jefferson
    "And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C."

    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Gross Terry, @SMK, @syonredux, @syonredux, @syonredux, @Bill, @Mike Zwick, @Stan Adams, @Jay Fink, @Olorin

    Herb Kohl
    Russ Feingold

    • Agree: Avenge Harambe
  12. Shooting of Dontre Hamilton

    As Manney began to pat down Hamilton, Hamilton fought him, and a confrontation ensued. Manney tried to use his baton to subdue Hamilton, but Hamilton got control of it and swung at Manney, hitting him on the side of the neck, according to Milwaukee police internal affairs.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    Another non-white Hamilton.

  13. @Talpiot/Ullastret
    Sorry for an OT so early on, but I tried to tell you people about this...

    With this person it isn't "nationalism for me, not for thee" it's "nationalism for no one".

    "OSF has funded multiple organizations over many years that deny Israel’s right to exist or seek to delegitimize the Jewish state, often by advancing anti-Semitic language and themes, as part of a deliberate strategy."

    http://www.thetower.org/3786-massive-soros-funding-behind-efforts-to-tar-israeli-democracy-leaks-show/

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @schmenz, @snorlax

    Unless PM Netanyahu denounces Soros openly and repeatedly, and actually declares that historic ethnoreligious majorities in the West are just as important as his majorities in Israel, many here are not going to care.

    I don’t consider myself to be Anti-Israel, and I really don’t want to be. But if Trump loses, the neocons will be at fault, and I see no alternative than becoming the founder of a right-wing BDS movement.

    It’s about self-determination.

    • Replies: @Talpiot/Ullastret
    @Maj. Kong

    That's fine.

    I'm a non-Jew living in Israel. Most Israelis I talk to think Trump sounds like the better candidate. Most Israelis are relatively unsophisticated, brutish, Eastern European- or Middle Eastern-type people.

    I generally support the severing of Israel from the Jewish diaspora, at least the American one. It's happening already anyway. But BDS won't work because one of the demands of BDS is the dissolution of Israel. Israelis aren't Swedes -- they won't voluntarily commit suicide.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @snorlax

    , @Jack D
    @Maj. Kong

    Be honest, there is nothing that Netanyahu could do that would make you into a Jew lover. If he were to weigh in on these issues, you would accuse him of interfering with the SELF-DETERMINATION of white nations. The taint is in the blood, so stop pretending that you would ever like him no matter what impossibly high imaginary sht test of yours he met.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Matra, @Mr. Anon, @RadicalCenter

    , @Matra
    @Maj. Kong

    But if Trump loses, the neocons will be at fault, and I see no alternative than becoming the founder of a right-wing BDS movement.

    The Right should've been doing something like that years ago when the neocons were purging and destroying the entire American Right. Since then they've had a few scrapes due to being the driving force behind the biggest foreign policy blunder in American history, but they are now look like they are on the way back to where they were before Iraq. A Trump loss could mean they have great influence with both main parties as well as continuing to dominate conservative media. Since there doesn't appear to be a legal way of making them pay for what they've done in the US hurting their precious Israel would be one of the few options left.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Whiskey

  14. @Anonymous
    If Trump actually had some sort of political organization, there'd be ads running already with this weave lady and her comments.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Johan Schmidt, @South Texas Guy

    The last thing Trump needs to do right now is to give free passes to the people yelling he’s an evil racist bigot. We have an alternative media in the country that is getting the word out. Anyone seeing this stuff will be drawn to the right conclusions without Trump needing to wedge his oar in.

    • Agree: Old fogey
    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Johan Schmidt

    "The last thing Trump needs to do right now is to give free passes to the people yelling he’s an evil racist bigot. We have an alternative media in the country that is getting the word out. Anyone seeing this stuff will be drawn to the right conclusions without Trump needing to wedge his oar in."

    Most American voters believe Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler level racist because most American voters are PC Bro.
    https://youtu.be/wXF8MIG_HQI

    , @South Texas Guy
    @Johan Schmidt

    Alternative media still only gets a thimblefull of viewers compared to the buckets of viewers that network news, local new TV news and newspapers get, so that whole idea of him being balanced by the internet is dead in the water.
    BTW, I'm thinking Trump made the basic mistake that McCain did, thinking that because he was the media darling (for various, but well known reasons), he'd continue to be one during the general election.
    I forget who the lefty journo was who said it a few years back, but I give him points for honesty, when he said that during a presidential election, it amounts to about an extra five points for democrats.

    Replies: @Eric Novak

    , @South Texas Guy
    @Johan Schmidt

    Alternative media still only gets a thimblefull of viewers compared to the buckets of viewers that network news, local new TV news and newspapers get, so that whole idea of him being balanced by the internet is dead in the water.
    BTW, I'm thinking Trump made the basic mistake that McCain did, thinking that because he was the media darling (for various, but well known reasons), he'd continue to be one during the general election.
    I forget who the lefty journo was who said it a few years back, but I give him points for honesty, when he said that during a presidential election, it amounts to about an extra five points for democrats.

    Replies: @Former Darfur

    , @AndrewR
    @Johan Schmidt

    We have an alternative media that few internet users follow, let alone internet non-users.

    Trump needs to be running primetime ads with this girl. The people calling him an evil racist bigot are going to call him that no matter what he does. All he needs is for a critical mass of Nice Folk to be more afraid of the dindu menace Hillary caters to than the big meanie Donald.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    , @Anonymous
    @Johan Schmidt

    He's running, or is at least supposed to be running, a Law and Order campaign, which will always be demonized by the media. You might as well tell him not to run a Law and Order campaign.

    The logic of the Law and Order campaign is that there are more people concerned with Law and Order than with racism, and that it will attract more voters concerned with Law and Order than people worried about racism to the polls.

    The alternative media is a circle jerk of like minded people talking to themselves all day. If Trump ran with this, condemnations from the MSM would only help to publicize and spread this further.

  15. @Johan Schmidt
    @Anonymous

    The last thing Trump needs to do right now is to give free passes to the people yelling he's an evil racist bigot. We have an alternative media in the country that is getting the word out. Anyone seeing this stuff will be drawn to the right conclusions without Trump needing to wedge his oar in.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @South Texas Guy, @South Texas Guy, @AndrewR, @Anonymous

    “The last thing Trump needs to do right now is to give free passes to the people yelling he’s an evil racist bigot. We have an alternative media in the country that is getting the word out. Anyone seeing this stuff will be drawn to the right conclusions without Trump needing to wedge his oar in.”

    Most American voters believe Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler level racist because most American voters are PC Bro.

  16. Did Sylville Smith fall under the category of boy-named-Sue badasses?

  17. Milwaukee’s looking more like Straight Outta Compton these days than Happy Days.

    The vast majority of big cities in the Midwest are dysfunctional (Milwaukee, Cleveland, Chicago, St. Louis, Cincinnati, Detroit, etc).

    When they say Midwest nice they are not talking about it’s big cities. They must be talking about it’s suburban and rural areas.

    • Replies: @Marty
    @Jefferson

    You remind me of a secretary I once had. Nice lady, but just couldn't master the apostrophe.

  18. @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "If Trump actually had some sort of political organization, there’d be ads running already with this weave lady and her comments."

    Why is multi-billionaire Donald Trump running his presidential campaign similar to a low budget art house independent film like The Blair Witch Project? His campaign comes off looking like a 3rd Party run with a shoestring budget.

    Meanwhile Hildabeast is running her presidential campaign like it has the blockbuster budget of Star Wars Episode 7 The Force Awakens.

    Replies: @Ulick McGee, @bigbadwolf, @Jack Hanson, @Bill, @Daniel H

    Or, he is 300 and she is Girlbusters.

  19. Self determination does not seem like nationalism. Nationalism is defensible with Hegel. But self determination is incoherent. What is the group?This was noticed right away when Wilson proposed self determination as a principle. It automatically leads to conflict. However nationalism is perfectly legitimate and can be defended by Hegel.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    @avraham

    That's for pre-existing nations as state units. One can have Austro-Hungarian nationalism (I'm sure there were plenty, just like British nationalists), but self-determination means that quite a large number of Serbs are going to want their own state, even if it ends up looking like an ethnic Swiss cheese. They solved that by making a nation of Slavs, Yugoslavia, but it did not stop the further splitting of group identities along the line of religion and historic experience. The key is to stop further atomization. But this is being done in a stealth fashion by the EU by encouraging massive decentralization of nation-states (in the form of high-low team up against the middle, which is the sovereign state) under the guise of democracy, accountability and so on, wherein regional identities are being formed that can undermine national identities. This is not about actual nations like the Catalan or Scots or the various minorities, but the fragmentation of a pre-existing more or less unitary identity, like East Coast vs West Coast, Flyover vs Big City etc. In places like my country, the idea of decentralization leading to accountability and democracy is risible (but being pushed with outside money), and presupposes the existence of middle classes outside the big six cities ready and willing to govern themselves with better success. It will basically lead to feudalism or caudillo-ism without the violence.

    Replies: @Jack D, @avraham

    , @Jack D
    @avraham

    Maybe I'm thick headed but what is the difference between self-determination and nationalism? Isn't the "self" in self-determination the collective "self" of a nation?

    Nationalism works OK if you can get everyone to agree that they belong to a really big broadly defined "nation" like "American". But there is a lingering tendency for people to define themselves ever more locally (Catalans and not Spaniards) . And if the Catalans get their own country, there are probably sub-groups within Catalonia that would like their OWN self-determination - maybe there should be a North Catalonia and a South Catalonia (and then a SE Catalonia and SW Catalonia, etc.). And what do you do with a city that is half Castilian and half Catalan - whose self-determination counts? Germany used to be dotted with a hundred little principalities with "self-determination" and it was impossible (for better or for worse) to get anything done on a grand scale (either build a national transportation network OR invade the neighbors) until they all got together into one big country.

    Replies: @NC, @Big Bill

  20. The Black police officer in Milwaukee is getting online death threats and I doubt very much they are coming from members of The Aryan Brotherhood and Stormfront.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/midwest/ct-milwaukee-police-shooting-death-threats-20160816-story.html

    You know those online death threats are coming from George Soros adopted African children.

    George Soros is an evil Demon version of Mr. Drummond from Different Strokes. And George Soros adopted African children are nowhere near as likable as Arnold Jackson.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jefferson

    What you talking about Willis?

    Replies: @SteveRogers42

  21. Steve mentioned somewhere or other that BLM seems to be run by (often gay) mulattoes. Now there’s an albino lieutenant on the scene:

    https://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/watch-black-lives-matter-leader-caught-impersonating-police-video

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Christopher Paul

    "Steve mentioned somewhere or other that BLM seems to be run by (often gay) mulattoes. Now there’s an albino lieutenant on the scene:"

    That Albino should be glad he lives in America and not Africa. In Africa they would have killed his ass. Albino lives don't matter in Africa.

  22. @Anonymous
    If Trump actually had some sort of political organization, there'd be ads running already with this weave lady and her comments.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Johan Schmidt, @South Texas Guy

    That was going to be my comment exactly. However, I wonder how many, or if any at all, swing state TV stations would show the commercial?

  23. @Johan Schmidt
    @Anonymous

    The last thing Trump needs to do right now is to give free passes to the people yelling he's an evil racist bigot. We have an alternative media in the country that is getting the word out. Anyone seeing this stuff will be drawn to the right conclusions without Trump needing to wedge his oar in.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @South Texas Guy, @South Texas Guy, @AndrewR, @Anonymous

    Alternative media still only gets a thimblefull of viewers compared to the buckets of viewers that network news, local new TV news and newspapers get, so that whole idea of him being balanced by the internet is dead in the water.
    BTW, I’m thinking Trump made the basic mistake that McCain did, thinking that because he was the media darling (for various, but well known reasons), he’d continue to be one during the general election.
    I forget who the lefty journo was who said it a few years back, but I give him points for honesty, when he said that during a presidential election, it amounts to about an extra five points for democrats.

    • Replies: @Eric Novak
    @South Texas Guy

    Gimme a break. Trump is supported by Drudge. That's all any candidate needs-1.5 billion page views per month.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  24. @Johan Schmidt
    @Anonymous

    The last thing Trump needs to do right now is to give free passes to the people yelling he's an evil racist bigot. We have an alternative media in the country that is getting the word out. Anyone seeing this stuff will be drawn to the right conclusions without Trump needing to wedge his oar in.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @South Texas Guy, @South Texas Guy, @AndrewR, @Anonymous

    Alternative media still only gets a thimblefull of viewers compared to the buckets of viewers that network news, local new TV news and newspapers get, so that whole idea of him being balanced by the internet is dead in the water.
    BTW, I’m thinking Trump made the basic mistake that McCain did, thinking that because he was the media darling (for various, but well known reasons), he’d continue to be one during the general election.
    I forget who the lefty journo was who said it a few years back, but I give him points for honesty, when he said that during a presidential election, it amounts to about an extra five points for democrats.

    • Replies: @Former Darfur
    @South Texas Guy

    Hillary is a "virtual incumbent", and as such, gets much of the general five point advantage incumbents tend to get with White voters. As Pierce correctly stated, whites are generally authoritarian, in that we tend to support rather than oppose authority instinctively;this is a reason we can have successful civilizations.

    Bill Clinton, GWB and BHO were all re-elected for a second term despite serious questions about their suitability in the mind of all even remotely thinking observers. FDR got a demented four terms. Truman and LBJ were re-elected after a VP assumption of power. Without getting into the specifics, it's clear Presidents tend to be re-elected more often than not. They have to screw up fairly badly to lose.

    Trump is an outlier among challengers in that he has tremendous name recognition and low information voters in general tend to know him very well due to his reality TV and WWE adventures. Either way this is going to be an interesting race, only not in the ways such elections sometimes are.

    I don't think the MSM has ever been as onesided and blatantly corrupt as in this election. Hillary's negatives are so extreme-obvious federal offenses, a cemetery full of mysterious deaths in her wake, extreme likelihood of health problems-that the ability of the MSM to discuss anything else would be nonexistent in any other case. The small percentage of thinking whites are being disabused of respect for this system at greater and greater rates.

    Replies: @Forbes

  25. @Maj. Kong
    @Talpiot/Ullastret

    Unless PM Netanyahu denounces Soros openly and repeatedly, and actually declares that historic ethnoreligious majorities in the West are just as important as his majorities in Israel, many here are not going to care.

    I don't consider myself to be Anti-Israel, and I really don't want to be. But if Trump loses, the neocons will be at fault, and I see no alternative than becoming the founder of a right-wing BDS movement.

    It's about self-determination.

    Replies: @Talpiot/Ullastret, @Jack D, @Matra

    That’s fine.

    I’m a non-Jew living in Israel. Most Israelis I talk to think Trump sounds like the better candidate. Most Israelis are relatively unsophisticated, brutish, Eastern European- or Middle Eastern-type people.

    I generally support the severing of Israel from the Jewish diaspora, at least the American one. It’s happening already anyway. But BDS won’t work because one of the demands of BDS is the dissolution of Israel. Israelis aren’t Swedes — they won’t voluntarily commit suicide.

    • Agree: Maj. Kong
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Talpiot/Ullastret

    You may be mistaken about Jews not voluntarily committing national suicide in Israel. Don't Muslims in Israel have a consistently higher total fertility rate than Jews in Israel? Orthodox and Hasidic Have high fertility rates like the Muslims, but those Jews apparently are not the majority of Jews in Israel (yet).

    Sad to say for the prospect of peaceful coexistence within Israel, but the likeliest scenario seems to be an Israel that becomes plurality and eventually majority Muslim, with most of the remaining Jews being fanatical hyper-religious zealots who believe even more than secular Jews that Muslims (or, indeed, non-Jews generally) are not worthy of any respect or compromise.

    Israel, like the USA, never should have allowed any known or suspected Muslims to settle there as citizens or permanent residents, and soon it may be too late to reverse the demographic takeover in both places, let alone to do so peacefully.

    , @snorlax
    @Talpiot/Ullastret


    Israelis aren’t Swedes — they won’t voluntarily commit suicide.
     
    Afrikaners certainly aren't Swedes,[1] and yet...

    For that matter, the Rhodesians, who, in the most interesting[2] anthropological curiosity in the history of Sub-Saharan Africa, maintained, in complete stasis, even unto the very moment of their deposition, an exact facsimile of the culture of 19th-century Tory England.

    Outside visitors would universally report they felt like they had traveled through time. Read (skim) the link – it's a trip.

    But even the Rhodies ultimately surrendered their country. As did the English!
    ---
    [1] Nor are Texans. Nor were the Swedes, once.

    [2] But, needless to say, one which is never going to be the topic of academic study, even though any first-hand accounts are rapidly being lost to history.

    The best explanation is that, for reasons of geographical remoteness and politics, Rhodesia had almost no exposure to externally-produced media. When the 20th century fell in the forest, the Rhodies simply didn't hear it.

    Lends itself to an interesting thought experiment: What would American or European culture be like, without the continual leftwards nudging from the academic/media complex?
  26. Off topic, but this video shows just what XXXXs we’re ruled by. Foul language and fouler behaviour from Germany’s vice-chancellor.

    https://www.rt.com/news/356225-german-vice-chancellor-middle-finger/

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @22pp22

    Obviously he is a traitor, but would you like it if someone called you that? They didn't say "Entschuldigung, Herr Vizekanzler, but we disagree with your policies and rhetoric and ask you to reconsider them."

    Being called a traitor is one of the most vicious insults there is, and, regardless of the accuracy, few are going to respond kindly to it. How about criticizing what he did to be called a traitor instead of his completely natural reaction to being called one.

    Replies: @Big Bill, @Brutusale

  27. @Christopher Paul
    Steve mentioned somewhere or other that BLM seems to be run by (often gay) mulattoes. Now there's an albino lieutenant on the scene:

    https://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/watch-black-lives-matter-leader-caught-impersonating-police-video

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Steve mentioned somewhere or other that BLM seems to be run by (often gay) mulattoes. Now there’s an albino lieutenant on the scene:”

    That Albino should be glad he lives in America and not Africa. In Africa they would have killed his ass. Albino lives don’t matter in Africa.

  28. @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "If Trump actually had some sort of political organization, there’d be ads running already with this weave lady and her comments."

    Why is multi-billionaire Donald Trump running his presidential campaign similar to a low budget art house independent film like The Blair Witch Project? His campaign comes off looking like a 3rd Party run with a shoestring budget.

    Meanwhile Hildabeast is running her presidential campaign like it has the blockbuster budget of Star Wars Episode 7 The Force Awakens.

    Replies: @Ulick McGee, @bigbadwolf, @Jack Hanson, @Bill, @Daniel H

    For starters, he’s not a multi-billionaire (except in his idle boasting). And Hillary has all the authentic billionaires backing her. There is no comparison.

  29. @Jefferson
    The Black police officer in Milwaukee is getting online death threats and I doubt very much they are coming from members of The Aryan Brotherhood and Stormfront.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/midwest/ct-milwaukee-police-shooting-death-threats-20160816-story.html

    You know those online death threats are coming from George Soros adopted African children.

    George Soros is an evil Demon version of Mr. Drummond from Different Strokes. And George Soros adopted African children are nowhere near as likable as Arnold Jackson.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    What you talking about Willis?

    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
    @Anonymous

    Excuse me, but I must correct your grammar. That's "Whatchu talkin' bout, Willis?"

  30. @Johan Schmidt
    @Anonymous

    The last thing Trump needs to do right now is to give free passes to the people yelling he's an evil racist bigot. We have an alternative media in the country that is getting the word out. Anyone seeing this stuff will be drawn to the right conclusions without Trump needing to wedge his oar in.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @South Texas Guy, @South Texas Guy, @AndrewR, @Anonymous

    We have an alternative media that few internet users follow, let alone internet non-users.

    Trump needs to be running primetime ads with this girl. The people calling him an evil racist bigot are going to call him that no matter what he does. All he needs is for a critical mass of Nice Folk to be more afraid of the dindu menace Hillary caters to than the big meanie Donald.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @AndrewR

    Exactly right. Fairness and a fair hearing will never be forthcoming from the left, or from african-"Americans." Trump should truthfully report and emphasize the growing violence and intimidation that Africans here are inflicting on all non-Africans, and pump up turnout by the "nice" fools you mention. It's a case of telling the truth being good politics as well.

  31. @22pp22
    Off topic, but this video shows just what XXXXs we're ruled by. Foul language and fouler behaviour from Germany's vice-chancellor.

    https://www.rt.com/news/356225-german-vice-chancellor-middle-finger/

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Obviously he is a traitor, but would you like it if someone called you that? They didn’t say “Entschuldigung, Herr Vizekanzler, but we disagree with your policies and rhetoric and ask you to reconsider them.”

    Being called a traitor is one of the most vicious insults there is, and, regardless of the accuracy, few are going to respond kindly to it. How about criticizing what he did to be called a traitor instead of his completely natural reaction to being called one.

    • Replies: @Big Bill
    @AndrewR


    How about criticizing what he did to be called a traitor instead of his completely natural reaction to being called one.
     
    Why not be nice and rational, you say? Because rationality (dialectic) is completely ineffective for most people. One must rely on rhetoric instead. Particularly when survival is at stake. Read Aristotle. Read Vox Day.
    , @Brutusale
    @AndrewR

    A common iSteve theme says that it's always 1939 somewhere. Der Spiegel believes it's America:

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/editorial-why-trump-would-be-a-danger-for-the-entire-world-a-1107880.html

    Replies: @Tex

  32. The best part of it is her letting everyone know that she doesn’t use a weave while she’s inciting an anti-white riot.

  33. About those Black vs White incarceration rates: while Wisconsin having a much higher ratio than those Southern states mentioned has a lot to do with Wisconsin having worse Blacks, I’m sure a lot of it has to do with those Southern states having worse Whites. Kentucky especially would support this viewpoint, as they have comparably much fewer blacks than other Southern states. It all goes back to “Albion’s Seed”; Wisconsin is inhabited my mostly Germans who were highly influenced by the Pennsylvania Quaker strain of original British colonists, while Whites in places like Kentucky are overwhelmingly Scots-Irish “Borderer” types, historically more prone to crime and outbursts of violence.

  34. Going back to Sister Souljah, there will be no need (and no desire) for Hillary to distance herself from these “burn down the suburbs” remarks because the remarks will never reach the general public in unfiltered form to begin with.

    Very rarely are BLM “martyrs” Eagle Scouts, but Sylville and his family I think takes the prize for black ghetto depravity. If you were trying to come up with a WORSE poster boy for your cause, I can’t think of who that would be.

    In an odd way, white liberals are right to blame whitey for Sylville. By bringing blacks North for industrial work and then turning them into surplus population by exporting their jobs or replacing them with immigrants, by subsidizing his lifestyle and that of his mother and grandma (you can’t revert to African patterns unless Uncle Sam plays the role of Big Man), by not locking him up long ago for his many prior offenses, WE created Sylville.

    Black men were never an ideal industrial workforce, but back in the day industrialists used to put up with them because they had no choice. My late FIL ran a truck trailer factory in Chicago with a mostly black workforce and it was no piece of cake. Once we gave them a choice, it was a no-brainer for them but the rest of us had to pay the price.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @Jack D


    WE created Sylville.
     
    If by "we," you mean WASP elites and Jews, then yes.

    Black men were never an ideal industrial workforce, but back in the day industrialists used to put up with them because they had no choice.
     
    Well, no. Their other choice was to pay the Polacks, Mics, Archie Bunkers, and Dagos more. They didn't want to do that, so black sharecroppers it was.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Alden, @Former Darfur

    , @SMK
    @Jack D

    Yes, the newest martyr of BLM should have been buried in prison long ago for "his many prior offenses" -this in a state in which, in 1997, Cassandra Sorenson-Grohall was sentenced to 4-years in prison and a lifetime of sex-offender registration for having sex with a 15-year-old student, a black criminal of 15 who sexually harassed, molested, and raped her. And just a few years later, Melissa Bittner was sentenced to a year in prison and 20-years of sex-offender registration because she was molested and "humped" in her classroom by a 16-year-old student and criminal who was charged with murder a few years later. The authorities believed her assailants version of what occurred. See the posts on my website for more specific and thorough details.

  35. @Clifford Brown
    Just as in Baltimore, the "elite" media will endorse progroms against Asian businesses because SOMETHING, SOMETHING, SOMETHING.

    Replies: @ic1000

    Progroms against Asian businesses”, nice neologism.

  36. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Will they get around to making the cop out to be a ‘white African-American’ as they whitened up Zimmerman or is that still a bridge too far just yet? The blacks in Milwaukee are in large part descended from Chicago migrants who were attracted by the easy availability of welfare there, members of the permanent underclass. What have they got to lose when they amass a criminal arrest record? Chicago’s police superintendent has publicly noted that 40 of the weekend’s shooting victims had a total of 672 arrests between them. Wrap your head around that one.

  37. @Maj. Kong
    @Talpiot/Ullastret

    Unless PM Netanyahu denounces Soros openly and repeatedly, and actually declares that historic ethnoreligious majorities in the West are just as important as his majorities in Israel, many here are not going to care.

    I don't consider myself to be Anti-Israel, and I really don't want to be. But if Trump loses, the neocons will be at fault, and I see no alternative than becoming the founder of a right-wing BDS movement.

    It's about self-determination.

    Replies: @Talpiot/Ullastret, @Jack D, @Matra

    Be honest, there is nothing that Netanyahu could do that would make you into a Jew lover. If he were to weigh in on these issues, you would accuse him of interfering with the SELF-DETERMINATION of white nations. The taint is in the blood, so stop pretending that you would ever like him no matter what impossibly high imaginary sht test of yours he met.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    @Jack D

    I invite you to view my commenting history, I've consistently taken a moderate position that gets me called a neocon by others. I do believe you have been triggered.

    , @Matra
    @Jack D


    Be honest, there is nothing that Netanyahu could do that would make you into a Jew lover. If he were to weigh in on these issues, you would accuse him of interfering with the SELF-DETERMINATION of white nations. The taint is in the blood, so stop pretending that you would ever like him no matter what impossibly high imaginary sht test of yours he met.
     
    Translation: We Jews have done nothing wrong. We are criticized and hated just for being Jews. With that in mind we don't need to engage in any self-reflection. We'll just ignore all criticism and keep on doing what we're doing.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Jack D

    "Be honest, there is nothing that Netanyahu could do that would make you into a Jew lover."

    Is that the standard then? Must everyone love your people? Maybe attitude is part of the problem.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Jack D

    I'd gladly respect the right of Jews to keep Israel Jewish, and safe for Jewish people and their traditional culture, language, and mores, if they reflected our right to do the same for our people in our lands.

    Having a Jewish country reserved entirely or predominantly for Jewish people over there would pose no threat or insult to me, my family, or my nation. Just mind their fucking business and stop lecturing us about how we are terribly racist to want to keep our country for our people.

  38. @avraham
    Self determination does not seem like nationalism. Nationalism is defensible with Hegel. But self determination is incoherent. What is the group?This was noticed right away when Wilson proposed self determination as a principle. It automatically leads to conflict. However nationalism is perfectly legitimate and can be defended by Hegel.

    Replies: @Romanian, @Jack D

    That’s for pre-existing nations as state units. One can have Austro-Hungarian nationalism (I’m sure there were plenty, just like British nationalists), but self-determination means that quite a large number of Serbs are going to want their own state, even if it ends up looking like an ethnic Swiss cheese. They solved that by making a nation of Slavs, Yugoslavia, but it did not stop the further splitting of group identities along the line of religion and historic experience. The key is to stop further atomization. But this is being done in a stealth fashion by the EU by encouraging massive decentralization of nation-states (in the form of high-low team up against the middle, which is the sovereign state) under the guise of democracy, accountability and so on, wherein regional identities are being formed that can undermine national identities. This is not about actual nations like the Catalan or Scots or the various minorities, but the fragmentation of a pre-existing more or less unitary identity, like East Coast vs West Coast, Flyover vs Big City etc. In places like my country, the idea of decentralization leading to accountability and democracy is risible (but being pushed with outside money), and presupposes the existence of middle classes outside the big six cities ready and willing to govern themselves with better success. It will basically lead to feudalism or caudillo-ism without the violence.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Romanian

    Even though the results are usually indifferent to negative for the common people, local elites LOVE nationalism because they get to run thing and have many rich opportunities for corruption that would not exist in a big country with an organized and non-corrupt civil service. You get to be a big fish, albeit in a little pond. The other way was much harder - to rise you had to go to Vienna and compete with the best and brightest of the entire empire and win on merit.

    It's pretty easy to get people riled up with nationalism (humans have natural tribal tendencies) and convince them that they should be singing Hail Serbia in their own language and not God Save the Austro-Hungarian Emperor in German.

    , @avraham
    @Romanian

    I believe your point was raised right away after Wilson stated this principle. Self Determination has not lower limit, and no upper limit. It is a simply a principle that gives a way for people to make trouble when they don't like the way things are going. Serbia is one good example. Nationalism however is something that is defended by Hegel. So one would have to see exactly what kind of nationalism he is defending and why. Certainly he is not saying self determination for everyone. He means a kind of nationalism that has associated with it an upward vector. It is not stationary.

  39. Anonymous • Disclaimer says: • Website

    I see no path to victory unless you can get white college/university millenials on your side, put it another way Jobbik is getting 53 percent of the Hungarian millenial vote, and draws a lot of its support from university students, how much of the white millenial vote is Trump getting? And Jobbik’s policy positions make Trump look like a San Francisco liberal.

    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
    @Anonymous

    Regarding the twits and twats of the college/millenial crew: It might be enough to simply get them NOT on Her side. If a sizeable chunk stay home and another chunk go for Stein or Governor Weed, those are half votes

  40. 40 percent of Jobbik’s supporters are women, and half of Jobbik’s supporters come from big cities like Budapest, I mean imagine Trump actually being competitive in San Francisco, Seattle, and Northern Virginia.

  41. @avraham
    Self determination does not seem like nationalism. Nationalism is defensible with Hegel. But self determination is incoherent. What is the group?This was noticed right away when Wilson proposed self determination as a principle. It automatically leads to conflict. However nationalism is perfectly legitimate and can be defended by Hegel.

    Replies: @Romanian, @Jack D

    Maybe I’m thick headed but what is the difference between self-determination and nationalism? Isn’t the “self” in self-determination the collective “self” of a nation?

    Nationalism works OK if you can get everyone to agree that they belong to a really big broadly defined “nation” like “American”. But there is a lingering tendency for people to define themselves ever more locally (Catalans and not Spaniards) . And if the Catalans get their own country, there are probably sub-groups within Catalonia that would like their OWN self-determination – maybe there should be a North Catalonia and a South Catalonia (and then a SE Catalonia and SW Catalonia, etc.). And what do you do with a city that is half Castilian and half Catalan – whose self-determination counts? Germany used to be dotted with a hundred little principalities with “self-determination” and it was impossible (for better or for worse) to get anything done on a grand scale (either build a national transportation network OR invade the neighbors) until they all got together into one big country.

    • Replies: @NC
    @Jack D

    Nationalism is love of your nation because it's strong or has the best technology or whatever. Patriotism is more like love of the language, traditions and so on of the group and land you happen to belong to. A proud Bavarian is a patriot whereas an enthusiastic German is a nationalist. There's some overlap but in general the two are counteracting forces because there are advantages and disadvantages to both in terms of running a nation. Where patriotism generally talks about independance, freedom and self determination as with Ireland last century, nationalism is the drive for security and strength as in Italy and Germany in the 19th century. The Slovaks broke from the Czechs because there are real if not giant differences between the two. Slovakia doesnt continue to splinter because it would be a disadvantage to be any smaller and already there are Slovaks who think Slovakia is too small and independance was a mistake.

    , @Big Bill
    @Jack D


    And what do you do with a city that is half Castilian and half Catalan – whose self-determination counts?
     
    What do you do? Ethnic cleansing. At the end of WWII, FDR, Stalin and Churchill cleansed ten million German civilians from all over Eurasia and sent them to Germany (with the wholehearted support of Herr Morgenthau). Countless Jews were cleansed from Arab lands shortly thereafter (with the active participation of the Zionist elite).

    It isn't a pleasant process. Sometimes the receiving country (i.e. the national homeland) has to further filter and cleanse the returnees they take back in order to purge them of the psychological and cultural taint of living in Exile for centuries. Witness the recent "scandals" in Israel regarding secret contraceptive treatments for brown and black Jewish returnees and the Ashkenazi/Zionist baby snatching of Arab Jewish returnee infants and children. Painful, but it had to be done to insure a common national identity.

    Theodore Herzl, the Great Zionist, is still on point: minorities (Jews, in his example) should return home, and those that don't want to return should be assimilated and stop meddling in the majority culture that surrounds them.

    Ethnic cleansing should not be dismissed out of hand. It has worked for Israel and Eurasia.
  42. There have been a number of (probably) bad shootings and/or police-caused deaths of black youths that could have served as nucleation events for Black Lives Matter actions, but there are never any takers for those. They (the BLM movement and its hangers-on) always gravitate to the hard-cases: ghetto-thugs getting shot for ghetto-thug behavior.

  43. @Romanian
    @avraham

    That's for pre-existing nations as state units. One can have Austro-Hungarian nationalism (I'm sure there were plenty, just like British nationalists), but self-determination means that quite a large number of Serbs are going to want their own state, even if it ends up looking like an ethnic Swiss cheese. They solved that by making a nation of Slavs, Yugoslavia, but it did not stop the further splitting of group identities along the line of religion and historic experience. The key is to stop further atomization. But this is being done in a stealth fashion by the EU by encouraging massive decentralization of nation-states (in the form of high-low team up against the middle, which is the sovereign state) under the guise of democracy, accountability and so on, wherein regional identities are being formed that can undermine national identities. This is not about actual nations like the Catalan or Scots or the various minorities, but the fragmentation of a pre-existing more or less unitary identity, like East Coast vs West Coast, Flyover vs Big City etc. In places like my country, the idea of decentralization leading to accountability and democracy is risible (but being pushed with outside money), and presupposes the existence of middle classes outside the big six cities ready and willing to govern themselves with better success. It will basically lead to feudalism or caudillo-ism without the violence.

    Replies: @Jack D, @avraham

    Even though the results are usually indifferent to negative for the common people, local elites LOVE nationalism because they get to run thing and have many rich opportunities for corruption that would not exist in a big country with an organized and non-corrupt civil service. You get to be a big fish, albeit in a little pond. The other way was much harder – to rise you had to go to Vienna and compete with the best and brightest of the entire empire and win on merit.

    It’s pretty easy to get people riled up with nationalism (humans have natural tribal tendencies) and convince them that they should be singing Hail Serbia in their own language and not God Save the Austro-Hungarian Emperor in German.

  44. “Take that shit to the suburbs. Burn that shit down! Burn they-all’s shit!”

    I wondered how long it would be before the inevitable would be stated publicly and unapologetically: the logical conclusion of “Black Lives Matter” is White Lives Don’t.

    Late Summer 2016.

    • Replies: @JerryC
    @Almost Missouri

    Well, black people have been saying stuff like that - don't burn down the ghetto, burn down whitey's neighborhood - ever since black urban rioting became a thing in the 60s. It's obviously self-defeating behavior, regardless of what one thinks of their claims of oppression at the hands of The Man. Nevertheless, blacks are still torching their own neighborhoods 50 years later because the people who are inclined to riot have, by definition, low impulse control and low future time orientation.

    Replies: @BB753

    , @dc.sunsets
    @Almost Missouri

    Meh.

    So far, throughout the last 100 years of Urban Minority Unrest, the rioters have had the innate sense to stay out of white, middle class suburban neighborhoods.

    City people are conditioned to dependence on Authority, so when Authority lets the rioters burn property, City people sigh and cry. Except LA's Korean shop owners, they do nothing.

    Suburban people may or may not be as conditioned. Many I've met seem not to be so conditioned, so my assumption is that if a mob of angry rioters rounded the bend toward such a neighborhood, their life insurance better be paid up. I think the Korean shop owner response would be common and dispositive.

    Rural people, of course, are NOT so conditioned. Unless they are surprised, I imagine attacking them would be very, very bad for ones health.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    , @Bill
    @Almost Missouri

    Carrying this into action seems to be a barrier that blacks or their handlers are not willing to cross. It's easy to see why. A black riot in a white suburban neighborhood is fairly likely to encounter armed resistance, resulting in many dead blacks. But that would bring up the question of how the media and the state should react. Do you charge a bunch of white racists with murder? That's a hard decision to take. The true believers would very much want to charge the white racists with murder. The sane-but-evil overlords would have to worry about what the consequences to that might be.

    On the other hand, that woman's logic is hard to fault. If black failure really is the fault of random middle class whites, then blacks really ought to go burn down white suburbs, right? Is Soros really confident that he won't lose control of BLM?

    Replies: @Jefferson

  45. @Hippopotamusdrome


    Shooting of Dontre Hamilton
    ...
    As Manney began to pat down Hamilton, Hamilton fought him, and a confrontation ensued. Manney tried to use his baton to subdue Hamilton, but Hamilton got control of it and swung at Manney, hitting him on the side of the neck, according to Milwaukee police internal affairs.

     

    Replies: @Jack D

    Another non-white Hamilton.

  46. Anonymous • Disclaimer says: • Website

    http://budapestbeacon.com/politics/understanding-jobbiks-appeal-to-hungarian-youth/21143. I basically believe it is within the realm of possibility for a full WN party to capture more than 50 percent of the white millenial vote based on Jobbik’s performance, and for that party to derive 45 percent of its support from white millenial women, and for it to get a major support base in universities and colleges, I am talking about a full nationalist party, not a fake one like Trump. Just make those liberals think that all races deserve a home, including whites.

  47. @Talpiot/Ullastret
    Sorry for an OT so early on, but I tried to tell you people about this...

    With this person it isn't "nationalism for me, not for thee" it's "nationalism for no one".

    "OSF has funded multiple organizations over many years that deny Israel’s right to exist or seek to delegitimize the Jewish state, often by advancing anti-Semitic language and themes, as part of a deliberate strategy."

    http://www.thetower.org/3786-massive-soros-funding-behind-efforts-to-tar-israeli-democracy-leaks-show/

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @schmenz, @snorlax

    I know that Soros is something of a “maverick” among Jewish oligarchs but I do find it difficult to accept that he would be openly against the Israeli occupation of the Holy Land. To me that seems out of character for him, despite what the leaks are suggesting.

  48. @Jefferson
    Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clark sure likes to wear cowboy hats a lot. He must be the rare Black Redneck. I would not be surprised if he likes to listen to Country music. He is definitely not a Dindu Nuffin type Negro.

    Replies: @Seamus, @Purpleslog, @SteveRogers42

    Look at his facial features. He’s definitively got a honky or two in the woodpile.

  49. Did anyone else take note of the CNN reporter’s narration immediately before cutting to the aggrieved family member?

    “…with his sister calling for peace…”

    Maybe it’s just me, but she sounded nothing like Mahatma Gandhi. What a perfect example of Doublethink.

  50. I have lived in several large cities, Milwaukee among them. In general:

    1) whites of all stripes really, really don’t like black people, viewing them as mostly criminal deadbeats and welfare cases who wreck their neighborhoods.

    2) A really large percentage of the black population fits this conception – the black professional class seems to be much, much smaller than in other cities I have lived in, and the lower income neighborhoods are total dumps.

    There is still a very strong Protestant work ethic in Milwaukee and it’s mostly white middle class and people who are not particularly reliable or productive are treated with contempt.

  51. Jack Hanson says:
    @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "If Trump actually had some sort of political organization, there’d be ads running already with this weave lady and her comments."

    Why is multi-billionaire Donald Trump running his presidential campaign similar to a low budget art house independent film like The Blair Witch Project? His campaign comes off looking like a 3rd Party run with a shoestring budget.

    Meanwhile Hildabeast is running her presidential campaign like it has the blockbuster budget of Star Wars Episode 7 The Force Awakens.

    Replies: @Ulick McGee, @bigbadwolf, @Jack Hanson, @Bill, @Daniel H

    Oh give it a break. All these backseat commenters who haven’t won anything beyond a participation medal who just “know” if they blather on about Spengler they will win the race.

    Yet again the media (and the doom masturbators here) declared Trump dead and now even the massaged polls are showing a dead heat. It’s so bad that the media is back to recycling “Trump isn’t even trying to win!” for the nth time.

    Trump beat 14 GOP idiots by realizing what Hillary and the people here have not : it’s a marathon, not a sprint.

    • Replies: @SteveRogers42
    @Jack Hanson

    It's time to cue up the Rocky theme.

  52. @Jefferson
    "And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C."

    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Gross Terry, @SMK, @syonredux, @syonredux, @syonredux, @Bill, @Mike Zwick, @Stan Adams, @Jay Fink, @Olorin

    there is more than you’d suppose.

    At UW-Madison, they actually have a racial slur dedicated to east coast transplants: Coasties. It caused a bit of a ruckus a few years back.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastie

    Of course, in the last few years the coastie menace has become a non-issue, because like 30% of the students are now Chinese, who are far richer and more foreign than ellis island arrivistes.

  53. “Burnin’ down shit ain’t going to help nothin’! Y’all burnin’ down shit we need in our community. Take that shit to the suburbs. Burn that shit down! We need our shit! We need our weaves. [Pause] I don’t wear it. But we need it.”

    *Facepalm* Straight out of a Friday movie.

  54. Sorry for an OT so early on, but I tried to tell you people about this…

    With this person it isn’t “nationalism for me, not for thee” it’s “nationalism for no one”.

    If you’re an American interested in lowering gun crime, you’ll focus your attentions exclusively on dense urban black populations. Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago, Memphis, etc.

    If you’re a globalist interested in stopping Caucausoid Nationalism, or First World Nationalism (because, let’s face it, no globalists are interested in stopping Black Nationalism, Yellow Nationalism, Brown Nationalism, etc.), then you’ll focus your attentions exclusively on Israel.

    If you’re a phony who just wants to present a plausible front, you’ll concentrate on Beverly Hills just as much as Baltimore; USA just as much as Israel.

    Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clark sure likes to wear cowboy hats a lot. He must be the rare Black Redneck. I would not be surprised if he likes to listen to Country music. He is definitely not a Dindu Nuffin type Negro.

    I met a black guy who wore cowboy hats and loved chamber music. Go figure.

    Be honest, there is nothing that Netanyahu could do that would make you into a Jew lover. If he were to weigh in on these issues, you would accuse him of interfering with the SELF-DETERMINATION of white nations. The taint is in the blood, so stop pretending that you would ever like him no matter what impossibly high imaginary sht test of yours he met.

    I’d love to put Netanyahu on my “Righteous Jews” list. Alas, he falls far short. Too short-sighted and narrowly particularlist. Too willing to throw fellow travelers under the bus. No vision, no imagination.

    “Tainted blood,” lol. Jewish need to re-characterize criticism and fight straw men does seem ingrained.

  55. @Jefferson
    Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clark sure likes to wear cowboy hats a lot. He must be the rare Black Redneck. I would not be surprised if he likes to listen to Country music. He is definitely not a Dindu Nuffin type Negro.

    Replies: @Seamus, @Purpleslog, @SteveRogers42

    I am a county resident and a Clark voter. The cowboy hat thing is something all of the last few Milwaukee Sheriffs have done. Mostly, it is a little silly looking. It does look cool though when they are on horses in the local parades.

  56. Jack, given your conviction on this matter, I suggest you consider the possibility that your misapprehension is down to projection, or some other common error.

    When I say I’d love to put Netanyahu on my Righteous Jews list, I mean it.

  57. @Romanian
    @avraham

    That's for pre-existing nations as state units. One can have Austro-Hungarian nationalism (I'm sure there were plenty, just like British nationalists), but self-determination means that quite a large number of Serbs are going to want their own state, even if it ends up looking like an ethnic Swiss cheese. They solved that by making a nation of Slavs, Yugoslavia, but it did not stop the further splitting of group identities along the line of religion and historic experience. The key is to stop further atomization. But this is being done in a stealth fashion by the EU by encouraging massive decentralization of nation-states (in the form of high-low team up against the middle, which is the sovereign state) under the guise of democracy, accountability and so on, wherein regional identities are being formed that can undermine national identities. This is not about actual nations like the Catalan or Scots or the various minorities, but the fragmentation of a pre-existing more or less unitary identity, like East Coast vs West Coast, Flyover vs Big City etc. In places like my country, the idea of decentralization leading to accountability and democracy is risible (but being pushed with outside money), and presupposes the existence of middle classes outside the big six cities ready and willing to govern themselves with better success. It will basically lead to feudalism or caudillo-ism without the violence.

    Replies: @Jack D, @avraham

    I believe your point was raised right away after Wilson stated this principle. Self Determination has not lower limit, and no upper limit. It is a simply a principle that gives a way for people to make trouble when they don’t like the way things are going. Serbia is one good example. Nationalism however is something that is defended by Hegel. So one would have to see exactly what kind of nationalism he is defending and why. Certainly he is not saying self determination for everyone. He means a kind of nationalism that has associated with it an upward vector. It is not stationary.

  58. SMK says: • Website
    @Jefferson
    "And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C."

    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Gross Terry, @SMK, @syonredux, @syonredux, @syonredux, @Bill, @Mike Zwick, @Stan Adams, @Jay Fink, @Olorin

    The most influential “conservative” intellectual in Wisconsin and Milwaukee is Charlie Sykes, a libertarian/neoconservative “invade the world/invite the world” author/talk-show host and anti-Trump fanatic. Allied with Mark Belling, another Milwaukee talk-show host and “truconservative,” it’s possible that Sykes was to blame for Trump’s defeat and Cruz’s victory in the Wisconsin primary.

  59. CNN needed to use sub-titles in that video.

  60. Bill Bratton: GOOD Irish Boston Cop.

    Ed Flynn: BAD Irish Boston Cop.

    Flynn started in Braintree, the South Shore Mecca for corrupt cops back in the 70s-80s. One of my earliest exposures to police corruption was back in 1975, when one of the Braintree cops who lived in the neighbor said he’d take care of the beverages for the annual neighborhood block party. He asked my brother and I to go along with him, as my brother had a pickup. We ended up at the Coca Cola distributorship in Braintree, loading cases and cases of soft drinks on the cuff. This guy, along with a dozen others, was eventually cashiered from the department.

    After Braintree, Flynn then led both the Chelsea and the Springfield police, both Third World hellholes usually listed as #1 and #2 in Massachusetts municipalities with the highest violent crime rates.

    Seems like there’s no benighted majority-minority town he doesn’t want to protect and serve!

  61. @Almost Missouri

    "Take that shit to the suburbs. Burn that shit down! Burn they-all's shit!"
     
    I wondered how long it would be before the inevitable would be stated publicly and unapologetically: the logical conclusion of "Black Lives Matter" is White Lives Don't.

    Late Summer 2016.

    Replies: @JerryC, @dc.sunsets, @Bill

    Well, black people have been saying stuff like that – don’t burn down the ghetto, burn down whitey’s neighborhood – ever since black urban rioting became a thing in the 60s. It’s obviously self-defeating behavior, regardless of what one thinks of their claims of oppression at the hands of The Man. Nevertheless, blacks are still torching their own neighborhoods 50 years later because the people who are inclined to riot have, by definition, low impulse control and low future time orientation.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @JerryC

    Does that mean that the sister of the shot dindu is a genious in her 'hood? I like the part where she says with nuance "not that I need weaves anyway" in her own vibrant folksy way. A heart of gold.

  62. @wren
    Milwaukee is only 37% white now?

    ScheiĂźe!

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Milwaukee is only 37% white now?

    ScheiĂźe!

    Yeah, I passed through Milwaukee on Amtrack last November, and thought, gee, what a neat, quaint little waterfront area…maybe we should visit Milwaukee sometime?

    I’ll pass.

  63. @Jefferson
    Milwaukee's looking more like Straight Outta Compton these days than Happy Days.

    The vast majority of big cities in the Midwest are dysfunctional (Milwaukee, Cleveland, Chicago, St. Louis, Cincinnati, Detroit, etc).

    When they say Midwest nice they are not talking about it's big cities. They must be talking about it's suburban and rural areas.

    Replies: @Marty

    You remind me of a secretary I once had. Nice lady, but just couldn’t master the apostrophe.

  64. @Jefferson
    "And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C."

    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Gross Terry, @SMK, @syonredux, @syonredux, @syonredux, @Bill, @Mike Zwick, @Stan Adams, @Jay Fink, @Olorin

    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

    I’m sorry, but this is a very silly statement.

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/zatoichi
    @syonredux

    And, why exactly is that?

    Replies: @syonredux

    , @Jefferson
    @syonredux

    "I’m sorry, but this is a very silly statement."

    Why is that? If statistics ever came out about the educational gap between Blacks and Jews, you know it would be jaw droppingly wide.

    There is a reason why Jews are vastly overrepresented among career fields which require having a high IQ. For example you know damn well that more than 2 percent of America's surgeons are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America's engineers are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America's scientists are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America's tech entrepreneurs are Jewish and so on.

    Blacks don't represent 13 percent of any of those career fields. Negro success pales in comparison to Jewish success.

    Replies: @Foreign Expert, @RadicalCenter, @syonredux, @Bill

  65. @Jefferson
    "And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C."

    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Gross Terry, @SMK, @syonredux, @syonredux, @syonredux, @Bill, @Mike Zwick, @Stan Adams, @Jay Fink, @Olorin

    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

    Extremely dysfunctional Blacks vs high performing Japhetic Whites:

    The six largest ancestry groups in Wisconsin are: German (42.6%), Irish (10.9%), Polish (9.3%), Norwegian (8.5%), English (6.5%), and Italian (6.1%).[65] German is the most common ancestry in every county in the state, except Menominee, Trempealeau and Vernon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin#Ethnicity

  66. @Jefferson
    "And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C."

    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Gross Terry, @SMK, @syonredux, @syonredux, @syonredux, @Bill, @Mike Zwick, @Stan Adams, @Jay Fink, @Olorin

    Since I hate waiting

    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

    Extremely dysfunctional Blacks vs high performing Japhetic Whites:

    The six largest ancestry groups in Wisconsin are: German (42.6%), Irish (10.9%), Polish (9.3%), Norwegian (8.5%), English (6.5%), and Italian (6.1%).[65] German is the most common ancestry in every county in the state, except Menominee, Trempealeau and Vernon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin#Ethnicity

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @syonredux

    So you basically made his point about WI having fewer Jewish-Americans in the state when compared to other states. Basically a mea culpa.

    Replies: @syonredux

  67. Great Taki column. I could never understand why black test scores were so low in Wisconsin. Government is always implementing harmful social policy such as kicking married men out of housing projects or awarding and enforcing child support payments to women who have children out of wedlock.

  68. @Jack D
    @Maj. Kong

    Be honest, there is nothing that Netanyahu could do that would make you into a Jew lover. If he were to weigh in on these issues, you would accuse him of interfering with the SELF-DETERMINATION of white nations. The taint is in the blood, so stop pretending that you would ever like him no matter what impossibly high imaginary sht test of yours he met.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Matra, @Mr. Anon, @RadicalCenter

    I invite you to view my commenting history, I’ve consistently taken a moderate position that gets me called a neocon by others. I do believe you have been triggered.

  69. During the 1970s, however, Chicago’s cynical Irish Democratic political leadership grew tired of attracting the laziest people in Mississippi and boosted AFDC payments to only $342 by 1985.

    I think that the words wise or intelligent would be more appropriate than the word cynical to describe what the Irish Democratic politicians were doing.

  70. @Jefferson
    "And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C."

    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Gross Terry, @SMK, @syonredux, @syonredux, @syonredux, @Bill, @Mike Zwick, @Stan Adams, @Jay Fink, @Olorin

    Like syonredux said, Germans are smart.

  71. @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "If Trump actually had some sort of political organization, there’d be ads running already with this weave lady and her comments."

    Why is multi-billionaire Donald Trump running his presidential campaign similar to a low budget art house independent film like The Blair Witch Project? His campaign comes off looking like a 3rd Party run with a shoestring budget.

    Meanwhile Hildabeast is running her presidential campaign like it has the blockbuster budget of Star Wars Episode 7 The Force Awakens.

    Replies: @Ulick McGee, @bigbadwolf, @Jack Hanson, @Bill, @Daniel H

    Because the oligarchs are not donating a lot to the ostensibly anti-oligarch candidate? The Koch brothers deciding to support Hillary was kind of an interesting happening.

  72. @Jefferson
    "And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C."

    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Gross Terry, @SMK, @syonredux, @syonredux, @syonredux, @Bill, @Mike Zwick, @Stan Adams, @Jay Fink, @Olorin

    Golda Meir was from Milwaukee’s North Side. According to the Jewish Virtual Library, there were 28255 Jews in Wisconsin as of 2014.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Mike Zwick

    A handy dandy list for everyone to save. Unless, you're from NY, NJ, MA, MD or DC, and I'll cut slack to those in CT and FL, please shut up about living amongst The Tribe.


    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/usjewpop.html

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jefferson

  73. There is an understandable tendency to look at internal black migration from a Northern destination perspective, rather than a Southern source perspective. That is from the point of view of Milwaukee, rather than Mississippi.

    Out-migration vastly changed the South. In 1900, at the height of Jim Crow, Mississippi was 58.5% back (907,630 out of 1,551,270). In 1940, when black population peaked, it was only 49.2% (1,074,578 out of 2,183,796). By 1970 it was only 36.8% (815,770 out of 2,216,912).
    This decline in population, particularity the relative population, made voting rights and segregation far more addressable in 1970 than ever before. The same pattern of relative decline holds throughout the deep South, with absolute declines in AL, GA, MS, and SC in this period.

    Numbers from Census Bureau Population Division Working Paper No. 56 from 2002.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Buddwing

    The migration of the Black Plague to the northern cities was the confederate revenge for losing the civil war.

  74. @Jack D
    Going back to Sister Souljah, there will be no need (and no desire) for Hillary to distance herself from these "burn down the suburbs" remarks because the remarks will never reach the general public in unfiltered form to begin with.

    Very rarely are BLM "martyrs" Eagle Scouts, but Sylville and his family I think takes the prize for black ghetto depravity. If you were trying to come up with a WORSE poster boy for your cause, I can't think of who that would be.

    In an odd way, white liberals are right to blame whitey for Sylville. By bringing blacks North for industrial work and then turning them into surplus population by exporting their jobs or replacing them with immigrants, by subsidizing his lifestyle and that of his mother and grandma (you can't revert to African patterns unless Uncle Sam plays the role of Big Man), by not locking him up long ago for his many prior offenses, WE created Sylville.

    Black men were never an ideal industrial workforce, but back in the day industrialists used to put up with them because they had no choice. My late FIL ran a truck trailer factory in Chicago with a mostly black workforce and it was no piece of cake. Once we gave them a choice, it was a no-brainer for them but the rest of us had to pay the price.

    Replies: @Bill, @SMK

    WE created Sylville.

    If by “we,” you mean WASP elites and Jews, then yes.

    Black men were never an ideal industrial workforce, but back in the day industrialists used to put up with them because they had no choice.

    Well, no. Their other choice was to pay the Polacks, Mics, Archie Bunkers, and Dagos more. They didn’t want to do that, so black sharecroppers it was.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Bill

    There were only so many Polacks and Dagos to go around. In the post war period, labor markets were very tight - if you stole someone else's workers by paying them more, there's still an unfilled position somewhere. He ran a union plant so pay was not the issue.

    Replies: @Bill

    , @Alden
    @Bill

    It takes too long and too much organization to get to the suburbs. By half way there they would get bored and start fighting amongst themselves.

    I lived in Los Angeles during the Rodney King riots. They destroyed the midwilshire Korea town area not far from me but they never got within 6 miles of my neighborhood.

    Plus a major, major incentive is loot. If they did get to the suburbs they would burn and loot the shopping centers and. Leave the residential neighborhoods alone

    , @Former Darfur
    @Bill

    For some production positions blacks-average blacks-actually do pretty well. They can do repetitive unskilled or semiskilled tasks without the boredom issues that impact higher-IQ groups and seem to have greater resistance to repetitive stress injuries such as carpal tunnel syndrome on average. Automotive assembly is one of these, at least in certain positions on the line, so long as suitable (firm, consistent and thorough) supervision is provided they do fine.

    Replies: @Jack D

  75. @Almost Missouri

    "Take that shit to the suburbs. Burn that shit down! Burn they-all's shit!"
     
    I wondered how long it would be before the inevitable would be stated publicly and unapologetically: the logical conclusion of "Black Lives Matter" is White Lives Don't.

    Late Summer 2016.

    Replies: @JerryC, @dc.sunsets, @Bill

    Meh.

    So far, throughout the last 100 years of Urban Minority Unrest, the rioters have had the innate sense to stay out of white, middle class suburban neighborhoods.

    City people are conditioned to dependence on Authority, so when Authority lets the rioters burn property, City people sigh and cry. Except LA’s Korean shop owners, they do nothing.

    Suburban people may or may not be as conditioned. Many I’ve met seem not to be so conditioned, so my assumption is that if a mob of angry rioters rounded the bend toward such a neighborhood, their life insurance better be paid up. I think the Korean shop owner response would be common and dispositive.

    Rural people, of course, are NOT so conditioned. Unless they are surprised, I imagine attacking them would be very, very bad for ones health.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @dc.sunsets


    City people are conditioned to dependence on Authority, so when Authority lets the rioters burn property, City people sigh and cry. Except LA’s Korean shop owners, they do nothing.
     
    During the Rodney King Riots, a group of would-be looters assembled in downtown Reno, and were about to have they selves a time...and then were met by a large group of armed, (mostly) White shopkeepers, and their friends & family. The party was hastily declared to be at an end, and no one even got so much as a t-shirt to commemorate the event. The national media gave this event about one line's worth of coverage, but my mother was living in Carson City at the time, and everyone in northern Nevada was very aware of what had transpired.
  76. @syonredux
    @Jefferson


    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.
     
    I'm sorry, but this is a very silly statement.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/zatoichi, @Jefferson

    And, why exactly is that?

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Yojimbo/zatoichi


    And, why exactly is that?
     
    Because, as Steve noted, Wisconsin has a lot of very dysfunctional Blacks. Combine that with high-performing Japhetic Whites, and you get a bigger than normal Black-White gap

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  77. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I have been foolish not to see what history has proven over and over again.

    That Autobots and Decepticons will never mend their ways.

    If there can be no diplomatic solution to this perpetual … conflict,

    then I must allow no more darkness to fall …

    upon this

    or any

    planet.

  78. @syonredux
    @Jefferson

    Since I hate waiting


    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

     

    Extremely dysfunctional Blacks vs high performing Japhetic Whites:

    The six largest ancestry groups in Wisconsin are: German (42.6%), Irish (10.9%), Polish (9.3%), Norwegian (8.5%), English (6.5%), and Italian (6.1%).[65] German is the most common ancestry in every county in the state, except Menominee, Trempealeau and Vernon.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin#Ethnicity

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    So you basically made his point about WI having fewer Jewish-Americans in the state when compared to other states. Basically a mea culpa.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    So you basically made his point about WI having fewer Jewish-Americans in the state when compared to other states. Basically a mea culpa.
     
    No, I explained why he shouldn't be surprised that Wisconsin (a state with a small Jewish population) has such a large Black-White gap.

    The equation is simple: extremely dysfunctional Blacks + high-performing Japhetic Whites= A bigger than normal Black-White gap.
  79. @Almost Missouri

    "Take that shit to the suburbs. Burn that shit down! Burn they-all's shit!"
     
    I wondered how long it would be before the inevitable would be stated publicly and unapologetically: the logical conclusion of "Black Lives Matter" is White Lives Don't.

    Late Summer 2016.

    Replies: @JerryC, @dc.sunsets, @Bill

    Carrying this into action seems to be a barrier that blacks or their handlers are not willing to cross. It’s easy to see why. A black riot in a white suburban neighborhood is fairly likely to encounter armed resistance, resulting in many dead blacks. But that would bring up the question of how the media and the state should react. Do you charge a bunch of white racists with murder? That’s a hard decision to take. The true believers would very much want to charge the white racists with murder. The sane-but-evil overlords would have to worry about what the consequences to that might be.

    On the other hand, that woman’s logic is hard to fault. If black failure really is the fault of random middle class whites, then blacks really ought to go burn down white suburbs, right? Is Soros really confident that he won’t lose control of BLM?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Bill

    "Carrying this into action seems to be a barrier that blacks or their handlers are not willing to cross. It’s easy to see why. A black riot in a white suburban neighborhood is fairly likely to encounter armed resistance, resulting in many dead blacks."

    Most White suburbs in America do not have mass public transportation. Most of the thug Negro underclass in the big cities can not afford to take an Uber to to the suburbs.

    Thank low car ownership in the hood for why Negro riots have never took place in the Whitopias.

  80. Its amazing states like Wisconsin supported Obama, what with their especially bad black populations. Somehow half the white people in the state wanted one of them to lead the free world.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Marty T

    I doubt that a majority of the whites in Wisconsin voted for Obama. But far too many did.

  81. Where are the voices, faces and presence of Hollywood, TV, music and sports people (Packers, Bucks, Brewers, etc) to help rebuild Milwaukee, Baton Rouge and similar scenes of devastation?

    When will those same high income high profile people lend a hand?

    Or does the prospect of lower ticket sales, a worse seat at Spago, flying coach and no swag bags overwhelm their judgment?

    When will they consider leading by example? Say what you will about Bill Cosby but at least he tried so that counts for one credit in a sea of debits.

  82. @Maj. Kong
    @Talpiot/Ullastret

    Unless PM Netanyahu denounces Soros openly and repeatedly, and actually declares that historic ethnoreligious majorities in the West are just as important as his majorities in Israel, many here are not going to care.

    I don't consider myself to be Anti-Israel, and I really don't want to be. But if Trump loses, the neocons will be at fault, and I see no alternative than becoming the founder of a right-wing BDS movement.

    It's about self-determination.

    Replies: @Talpiot/Ullastret, @Jack D, @Matra

    But if Trump loses, the neocons will be at fault, and I see no alternative than becoming the founder of a right-wing BDS movement.

    The Right should’ve been doing something like that years ago when the neocons were purging and destroying the entire American Right. Since then they’ve had a few scrapes due to being the driving force behind the biggest foreign policy blunder in American history, but they are now look like they are on the way back to where they were before Iraq. A Trump loss could mean they have great influence with both main parties as well as continuing to dominate conservative media. Since there doesn’t appear to be a legal way of making them pay for what they’ve done in the US hurting their precious Israel would be one of the few options left.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Matra

    "The Right should’ve been doing something like that years ago when the neocons were purging and destroying the entire American Right."

    Let's be honest with ourselves: it ain't just "neocons" (i.e., Jews interested in pulling all the strings). It's neofeudalists - good white businessmen willing to flood the country with more customers and cheaper labor if it'll make them another buck. Like ye olde Southern plantation owners, these men think they can control the consequences when whites become a minority. We see what those men ultimately did to the South, and what the modern neofeudalists are doing to the entire country - the entire West - will be just as awful.

    Replies: @avraham, @Corvinus, @ben tillman

    , @Whiskey
    @Matra

    One of the frustrating things about much of the Alt-right is their pedestalization and idealization of Professional White women. I give you the Business Insider Aug 8 story on the Monmouth University polls:

    If the election were today and only White men with College degrees voted, Trump would win by 11 points. If only White men without College voted, he'd win by 31 points. If only White women without College voted he'd win by 17 points.

    If only College Degree holding White women voted, HILLARY would win by 3o points.

    Romney took White men without College by 31 points, duplicating Trumps margin on Aug 8. He took White men with College by 21 points, better than Trump by 10 points, and White women without College by 20 points, very similar to what Trump did on Aug 8.

    Romney took White Women with College degrees narrowly by 6 points.

    Neocons are a tiny portion of the population, and Jews not much larger at around 6% if that. Many Jews are hard-core liberal Bernie-ites and endorse a sloppy anti-Israel nationalism while like Bernie buying a third house on Cape Cod for $700K.

    White professional women by contrast are the voters putting Hillary over the top.*** Trump was leading until Khizr Khan baited him and White women decisively sided with the hectoring non-White Muslim over the White man who "forgot his place." White professional women, in marked contrast with White working class men and women, and to a lesser extent White professional men, *WANT* a cringing caste system with themselves as part of the junior spoils system. And this includes the entire panoply of the corrupt cronyist caste system:

    *No Nationalism (for White countries at least).
    *BDS in both Bush Derangement Syndrome and Boycott Divest whatever with Israel.
    *A corrupt, mostly intermarried and related cronyist system that repudiates meritocracy in practice while assuring its benefactors that meritocracy indeed forms their caste.
    *Mass Third World immigration to provide clients for Nice White Ladies to baby sit, agitate for, and otherwise preen importantly instead of being just ordinary Professional Women pushing meaningless paper around.

    Iraq, Afghanistan, drone-a-terrorist, hug-a-Muslim, these were all the results of a deeply constrained system driven by Nice White Ladies and their spoils interests, delusional thinking that higher status will attract an Uber-Alpha man, delayed marriage after the carousel makes any "settling" for a beta male a source of rage not comfort and a general hatred of their White male professional peers for being both workplace rivals and not the sexy bad boys the culture promised them was their professional accomplishment reward.

    The Media is all in for Hillary! What makes you think they listen to Billy Kristol when they reject even his limited pc-bounded use of force? White men ignore the media and vice versa; TV has been all female/gay since the early 1980s (I even blogged about it, and the core methodology of checking the Wikipedia fall schedule and assigning each show a male or female hour/half hour per day and then adding up for the week is reproducable and no doubt subject to methodology improvement).

    I was singularly unimpressed by Kevin McDonald's "analysis" of "its the Jewwwwwwws! What was the question" avoiding the elephant in the room -- why White College Educated women vote so differently than EVERY OTHER WHITE DEMO.

    Heartiste alone seems to have grasped the situation -- he reports that some PUA pioneer is helping Hillary! and the Khizr Khan episode seems to have triggered a free-fall in Trump's until then lead among White College Women (but not any other demographic group).

    Structurally the only solution is to reduce the White Professional cohort as much as possible by social judo -- full SJW demanding White Professional Women "check their privilege" and be replaced ... by if possible a Muslima, if not at least by a Muslim or Black or Hispanic. As long as White Professional Women pay no personal cost of being fired for the coalition of the diverse they will happily engage in White Male purges to get a chance to move up one rung on the ladder. Kick them off the ladder entirely for being a White woman --

    You have a Trump voter.

    ***Yes I know, it was Jerry Seinfeld and Howard Stern's evil Jewish mind-rays "turning" otherwise pure and pro-White Male Professional White women into Hillary voters, because of the centuries old Jewish Plot to turn every place Jews live into one filled with Muslims who love Jews so much.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @RadicalCenter, @iSteveFan, @iSteveFan

  83. @Jack D
    @Maj. Kong

    Be honest, there is nothing that Netanyahu could do that would make you into a Jew lover. If he were to weigh in on these issues, you would accuse him of interfering with the SELF-DETERMINATION of white nations. The taint is in the blood, so stop pretending that you would ever like him no matter what impossibly high imaginary sht test of yours he met.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Matra, @Mr. Anon, @RadicalCenter

    Be honest, there is nothing that Netanyahu could do that would make you into a Jew lover. If he were to weigh in on these issues, you would accuse him of interfering with the SELF-DETERMINATION of white nations. The taint is in the blood, so stop pretending that you would ever like him no matter what impossibly high imaginary sht test of yours he met.

    Translation: We Jews have done nothing wrong. We are criticized and hated just for being Jews. With that in mind we don’t need to engage in any self-reflection. We’ll just ignore all criticism and keep on doing what we’re doing.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Matra

    Translation of your translation: I'm changing the subject because I don't want to answer your question honestly.

    I repeat - why should Netanyahu express ANY opinion on this subject? I'm pretty sure that if he did, either way, whoever in the West disagreed with him would hate him and Israel even more than they already do (I'm sure you would if he came out in favor of globalism), so what does he have to gain by interfering in the internal politics of other countries? Of course you would love to have more people agreeing with YOUR particular pet peeves - the more the merrier, but the right thing for him to do (for all leaders to do) is to stay the hell out of the internal politics of other people's countries. Although Israel is actually much more multi-cultural than American rightists understand, Netanyahu is pretty conservative and the best he can do is run his own country in a proper way so that others can learn by his example, not from meaningless endorsements.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Mr. Anon, @iSteveFan

  84. @Jefferson
    "And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C."

    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Gross Terry, @SMK, @syonredux, @syonredux, @syonredux, @Bill, @Mike Zwick, @Stan Adams, @Jay Fink, @Olorin

    There are some goys with triple-digit IQs, you know.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Stan Adams

    Most "Jews" are themselves genetically a substantial part Germanic or Slavic, not just Semitic.

    On top of that, as other columns on Unz.com point out, even the so-called "really Jewish" s / non-Germanic/Slavic component of today's "Jews" appears in fact to be partially Italian.

    So rather than America or Gentiles owing some of our higher average intelligence and creativity to the "Jewish" part of our population, the highly non-Jewish "Jews" owe gratitude to their Italic, Germanic, and Slavic genes, more than anything else, for much of their intelligence and creativity.

  85. A fair amount of Wisconsin’s character comes from a chunk of its population being descended from the “Forty Eighters” who left Germany after the failed 1848 revolutions. The region absorbed quite a bit of the 19th century German left.

  86. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Johan Schmidt
    @Anonymous

    The last thing Trump needs to do right now is to give free passes to the people yelling he's an evil racist bigot. We have an alternative media in the country that is getting the word out. Anyone seeing this stuff will be drawn to the right conclusions without Trump needing to wedge his oar in.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @South Texas Guy, @South Texas Guy, @AndrewR, @Anonymous

    He’s running, or is at least supposed to be running, a Law and Order campaign, which will always be demonized by the media. You might as well tell him not to run a Law and Order campaign.

    The logic of the Law and Order campaign is that there are more people concerned with Law and Order than with racism, and that it will attract more voters concerned with Law and Order than people worried about racism to the polls.

    The alternative media is a circle jerk of like minded people talking to themselves all day. If Trump ran with this, condemnations from the MSM would only help to publicize and spread this further.

  87. @Matra
    @Maj. Kong

    But if Trump loses, the neocons will be at fault, and I see no alternative than becoming the founder of a right-wing BDS movement.

    The Right should've been doing something like that years ago when the neocons were purging and destroying the entire American Right. Since then they've had a few scrapes due to being the driving force behind the biggest foreign policy blunder in American history, but they are now look like they are on the way back to where they were before Iraq. A Trump loss could mean they have great influence with both main parties as well as continuing to dominate conservative media. Since there doesn't appear to be a legal way of making them pay for what they've done in the US hurting their precious Israel would be one of the few options left.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Whiskey

    “The Right should’ve been doing something like that years ago when the neocons were purging and destroying the entire American Right.”

    Let’s be honest with ourselves: it ain’t just “neocons” (i.e., Jews interested in pulling all the strings). It’s neofeudalists – good white businessmen willing to flood the country with more customers and cheaper labor if it’ll make them another buck. Like ye olde Southern plantation owners, these men think they can control the consequences when whites become a minority. We see what those men ultimately did to the South, and what the modern neofeudalists are doing to the entire country – the entire West – will be just as awful.

    • Agree: Travis
    • Replies: @avraham
    @Wilkey

    This is the first comment that accurately describes my feelings. I grieved me when I saw the country being flooded by blacks. Then it grieved me even more when I saw it being overrun by Muslims. Then the last straw was to see the Jews being blamed for it all. The people that brought in the blacks were not Jewish; they were Southern Businessmen. And the people that flooded the country with Muslims were not Jewish. The Jews are simply the most convenient scapegoat for what White Anglo Saxon Protestants did to themselves.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Hippopotamusdrome, @Bleuteaux

    , @Corvinus
    @Wilkey

    "Let’s be honest with ourselves: it ain’t just “neocons” (i.e., Jews interested in pulling all the strings). It’s neofeudalists – good white businessmen willing to flood the country with more customers and cheaper labor if it’ll make them another buck."

    You realize that is the history of capitalism, right? Is it not their liberty to maximize profits and minimize costs?

    "Like ye olde Southern plantation owners, these men think they can control the consequences when whites become a minority."

    Then whites can use affirmative action to their advantage!

    "We see what those men ultimately did to the South, and what the modern neofeudalists are doing to the entire country – the entire West – will be just as awful."

    So today's businessmen are "neofeudalists"???

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    , @ben tillman
    @Wilkey


    Let’s be honest with ourselves: it ain’t just “neocons” (i.e., Jews interested in pulling all the strings). It’s neofeudalists – good white businessmen willing to flood the country with more customers and cheaper labor if it’ll make them another buck.
     
    First, there's no resemblance to feudalism. Second, the actions of the white businessmen are an effect, not a cause. They played no role whatsoever in 1965, and today they're just caught in a race to the bottom with the country having been turned into a commons.

    Replies: @Wilkey

  88. @syonredux
    @Jefferson


    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.
     
    I'm sorry, but this is a very silly statement.

    Replies: @Yojimbo/zatoichi, @Jefferson

    “I’m sorry, but this is a very silly statement.”

    Why is that? If statistics ever came out about the educational gap between Blacks and Jews, you know it would be jaw droppingly wide.

    There is a reason why Jews are vastly overrepresented among career fields which require having a high IQ. For example you know damn well that more than 2 percent of America’s surgeons are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America’s engineers are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America’s scientists are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America’s tech entrepreneurs are Jewish and so on.

    Blacks don’t represent 13 percent of any of those career fields. Negro success pales in comparison to Jewish success.

    • Replies: @Foreign Expert
    @Jefferson

    .


    Negro success pales in comparison to Jewish success.
     
    Very pale.
    , @RadicalCenter
    @Jefferson

    See my comment about "Jews" typically having substantial ITALIAN, Germanic, and Slavic genes, often more than their Semitic genetic background.

    The so-called Jews have done wonders with the superior genes they received from very non-Jewish white people.

    You are welcome.

    , @syonredux
    @Jefferson


    “I’m sorry, but this is a very silly statement.”

    Why is that? If statistics ever came out about the educational gap between Blacks and Jews, you know it would be jaw droppingly wide.
     
    Yeah, but the gap between Blacks and all Whites (Ashkenazis, Germans, Anglo-Saxons, etc) is huge.Heck, it's even pretty damn big when Blacks are compared to the Scots-Irish.


    Hence, I'm not sure why you think that it's odd that Wisconsin, which is full of high-performing Japhetic Whites, should have a particularly large White-Black gap.
    , @Bill
    @Jefferson


    More than 2 percent of America’s engineers are Jewish.
     
    Are they? I suppose if you include "software engineers," this is true. But mechanical engineers and electrical engineers and chemical engineers and civil engineers? You think there is significant Jewish over-representation there? I don't think so, but I could be convinced.
  89. @Matra
    @Jack D


    Be honest, there is nothing that Netanyahu could do that would make you into a Jew lover. If he were to weigh in on these issues, you would accuse him of interfering with the SELF-DETERMINATION of white nations. The taint is in the blood, so stop pretending that you would ever like him no matter what impossibly high imaginary sht test of yours he met.
     
    Translation: We Jews have done nothing wrong. We are criticized and hated just for being Jews. With that in mind we don't need to engage in any self-reflection. We'll just ignore all criticism and keep on doing what we're doing.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Translation of your translation: I’m changing the subject because I don’t want to answer your question honestly.

    I repeat – why should Netanyahu express ANY opinion on this subject? I’m pretty sure that if he did, either way, whoever in the West disagreed with him would hate him and Israel even more than they already do (I’m sure you would if he came out in favor of globalism), so what does he have to gain by interfering in the internal politics of other countries? Of course you would love to have more people agreeing with YOUR particular pet peeves – the more the merrier, but the right thing for him to do (for all leaders to do) is to stay the hell out of the internal politics of other people’s countries. Although Israel is actually much more multi-cultural than American rightists understand, Netanyahu is pretty conservative and the best he can do is run his own country in a proper way so that others can learn by his example, not from meaningless endorsements.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Jack D

    "Although Israel is actually much more multi-cultural than American rightists understand,"

    Israel is nowhere near as ethnically homogeneous as Mainland China and Japan. 26 percent of Israel'population is Non Jewish and that percentage just keeps growing as Arab Muslims breed like cockroaches.

    China is 92 percent ethnically Han and Japan is 98 percent ethnically Japanese.

    Israel could only dream of being an over 90 percent Jewish nation.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @syonredux

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Jack D

    "I’m pretty sure that if he did, either way, whoever in the West disagreed with him would hate him and Israel even more than they already do (I’m sure you would if he came out in favor of globalism), so what does he have to gain by interfering in the internal politics of other countries?"

    Do you maintain that Netanyahu does not interfere in american politics? What was that finger-wagging speech given before a joint session of Congress then? Why did he speak out against Trump's call for a moratorium on muslim immigration? If he has nothing to gain thereby..........why did he do it?

    , @iSteveFan
    @Jack D


    Although Israel is actually much more multi-cultural than American rightists understand,
     
    Could you elaborate on that statement?
  90. “We need our weaves. I don’t wear it. But we need it.”

    The current #1 contender for the Seinfeld, “I’m not gay. Not there’s anything wrong with that” line of the 2010’s.

  91. I have a dream… of a civil rights speech relevant for our times.

    “Burnin’ down shit ain’t going to help nothin’! Y’all burnin’ down shit we need in our community. Take that shit to the suburbs. Burn that shit down! We need our shit! We need our weaves. [Pause] I don’t wear it. But we need it.”

  92. SMK says: • Website
    @Jack D
    Going back to Sister Souljah, there will be no need (and no desire) for Hillary to distance herself from these "burn down the suburbs" remarks because the remarks will never reach the general public in unfiltered form to begin with.

    Very rarely are BLM "martyrs" Eagle Scouts, but Sylville and his family I think takes the prize for black ghetto depravity. If you were trying to come up with a WORSE poster boy for your cause, I can't think of who that would be.

    In an odd way, white liberals are right to blame whitey for Sylville. By bringing blacks North for industrial work and then turning them into surplus population by exporting their jobs or replacing them with immigrants, by subsidizing his lifestyle and that of his mother and grandma (you can't revert to African patterns unless Uncle Sam plays the role of Big Man), by not locking him up long ago for his many prior offenses, WE created Sylville.

    Black men were never an ideal industrial workforce, but back in the day industrialists used to put up with them because they had no choice. My late FIL ran a truck trailer factory in Chicago with a mostly black workforce and it was no piece of cake. Once we gave them a choice, it was a no-brainer for them but the rest of us had to pay the price.

    Replies: @Bill, @SMK

    Yes, the newest martyr of BLM should have been buried in prison long ago for “his many prior offenses” -this in a state in which, in 1997, Cassandra Sorenson-Grohall was sentenced to 4-years in prison and a lifetime of sex-offender registration for having sex with a 15-year-old student, a black criminal of 15 who sexually harassed, molested, and raped her. And just a few years later, Melissa Bittner was sentenced to a year in prison and 20-years of sex-offender registration because she was molested and “humped” in her classroom by a 16-year-old student and criminal who was charged with murder a few years later. The authorities believed her assailants version of what occurred. See the posts on my website for more specific and thorough details.

  93. Sorry, OT – but has anybody else noticed that National Review Online has turned over their comments section to Facebook? So, if you comment there, they publish your workplace, or other identifying information, alongside your sig? A blatant attempt to intimidate dissidents.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @vinteuil

    Another reason why it is a mistake to ever join or visit Facebook.

  94. @Wilkey
    @Matra

    "The Right should’ve been doing something like that years ago when the neocons were purging and destroying the entire American Right."

    Let's be honest with ourselves: it ain't just "neocons" (i.e., Jews interested in pulling all the strings). It's neofeudalists - good white businessmen willing to flood the country with more customers and cheaper labor if it'll make them another buck. Like ye olde Southern plantation owners, these men think they can control the consequences when whites become a minority. We see what those men ultimately did to the South, and what the modern neofeudalists are doing to the entire country - the entire West - will be just as awful.

    Replies: @avraham, @Corvinus, @ben tillman

    This is the first comment that accurately describes my feelings. I grieved me when I saw the country being flooded by blacks. Then it grieved me even more when I saw it being overrun by Muslims. Then the last straw was to see the Jews being blamed for it all. The people that brought in the blacks were not Jewish; they were Southern Businessmen. And the people that flooded the country with Muslims were not Jewish. The Jews are simply the most convenient scapegoat for what White Anglo Saxon Protestants did to themselves.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @avraham

    "I grieved me when I saw the country being flooded by blacks."

    Really? You were alive in the 18th century? Pleased to make your aquaintance, Monsieur le Comte de Saint Germain.

    "The people that brought in the blacks were not Jewish; they were Southern Businessmen. And the people that flooded the country with Muslims were not Jewish. The Jews are simply the most convenient scapegoat for what White Anglo Saxon Protestants did to themselves."

    You mean to say that there were no Jews who owned or traded slaves? None?

    Emmanuel Cellar drafted the 1965 immigration law, after laboring for 40 years in Congress to change american immigration policy into what it is today. Was he anglo-saxon? David Gelbaum gave the Sierra Club $100 million in exchange for them dropping any opposition to immigration. Is he anglo-saxon? Some rather simple google searches of organizations that promote immigration would turn up numerous other correlations.

    Replies: @avraham

    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    @avraham

    It's eccentric fringe groups nobody supports like the ADL that give some a negative impression.



    Welcoming the Stranger: ADL's Commitment to Protecting Refugees
    ...
    In the aftermath of the tragic attacks in Paris, Belgium, Jakarta, Egypt and other places, however, too often the call has been to reject refugees.
    ...
    A bill pending now in Congress would make it much harder for refugees fleeing extreme violence to find safety and a new home in the United States. Learn more about the bill and urge your representative to save America's refugee resettlement programs today!

     



    ADL Joins Coalition Press Conference to Invite MD Gov. Larry Hogan to Meet Syrian Refugees and Reconsider His Opposition to Accepting Them

     



    Coming to America: A Muslim Family's Story
    ...
    Text and photographs depict the joys and hardships experienced by a Muslim family that immigrates to New York City from Egypt.

     



    Anti-Muslim Bigotry
    ...
    Through the Interfaith Coalition on Mosques (ICOM) we assist Muslim communities who are being denied permission to build mosques in their neighborhoods.

     



    A Wave of Ugly Rhetoric Targeting Muslim Immigrants
    ...
    Proclaiming an invasion

    Anti-immigrant bloggers, as well as anti-Muslim bigots, warn that there is a “Muslim invasion” that will result in Muslims being the dominant religious group in the U.S.

     



    After Terrorist Attacks, Anti-immigrant Activists Attack Muslim Immigration

     



    Geert Wilders' Anti-Muslim Agenda
    ...
    Wilders has described Muslims as a threat to European democracies, has advocated for banning immigration to Holland from Muslim-majority countries
    ...
    The Freedom Party (PVV), which Wilders heads, reached its pinnacle in 2010. In that year, it captured 15 percent of the vote and 24 seats in the Dutch parliament. Wilders’ ascent was closely linked to his party's focus on immigration and Islam.
    ...
    The following year he formed the PVV in order advance his idea for a temporary moratorium on immigration from Turkey and Morocco.

     

    , @Bleuteaux
    @avraham

    If we're talking raw numbers, this seems definitely true. Take any major monopoly corporation and there are hundreds or thousands of upper level management along with investors for whom driving up GDP is the sole economic and social priority. I think the average white elitist businessman is also all too happy to destroy the social infrastructure of anyone below him who might compete with himself or his family in future generations.

  95. @Jack D
    @Matra

    Translation of your translation: I'm changing the subject because I don't want to answer your question honestly.

    I repeat - why should Netanyahu express ANY opinion on this subject? I'm pretty sure that if he did, either way, whoever in the West disagreed with him would hate him and Israel even more than they already do (I'm sure you would if he came out in favor of globalism), so what does he have to gain by interfering in the internal politics of other countries? Of course you would love to have more people agreeing with YOUR particular pet peeves - the more the merrier, but the right thing for him to do (for all leaders to do) is to stay the hell out of the internal politics of other people's countries. Although Israel is actually much more multi-cultural than American rightists understand, Netanyahu is pretty conservative and the best he can do is run his own country in a proper way so that others can learn by his example, not from meaningless endorsements.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Mr. Anon, @iSteveFan

    “Although Israel is actually much more multi-cultural than American rightists understand,”

    Israel is nowhere near as ethnically homogeneous as Mainland China and Japan. 26 percent of Israel’population is Non Jewish and that percentage just keeps growing as Arab Muslims breed like cockroaches.

    China is 92 percent ethnically Han and Japan is 98 percent ethnically Japanese.

    Israel could only dream of being an over 90 percent Jewish nation.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Jefferson

    It will be pretty damn funny to see the racial-supremacist Jews of Israel be oppressed, threatened, marginalized, discriminated against, and eventually wiped out in Israel itself.

    Except that we will probably be too busy fighting a civil war against the Mexican and African fifth columns here in the former "USA" to focus much on Schadenfreude.

    , @syonredux
    @Jefferson


    Israel is nowhere near as ethnically homogeneous as Mainland China and Japan. 26 percent of Israel’population is Non Jewish and that percentage just keeps growing as Arab Muslims breed like cockroaches.
     
    Dunno. My understanding is that the Jews have won the battle of the cradle in Israel....

    Replies: @Jefferson

  96. Wisconsin’s disillusioning history with migrants might well have implications for national immigration policy in 2016.

    How? I don’t see it.

  97. @Wilkey
    @Matra

    "The Right should’ve been doing something like that years ago when the neocons were purging and destroying the entire American Right."

    Let's be honest with ourselves: it ain't just "neocons" (i.e., Jews interested in pulling all the strings). It's neofeudalists - good white businessmen willing to flood the country with more customers and cheaper labor if it'll make them another buck. Like ye olde Southern plantation owners, these men think they can control the consequences when whites become a minority. We see what those men ultimately did to the South, and what the modern neofeudalists are doing to the entire country - the entire West - will be just as awful.

    Replies: @avraham, @Corvinus, @ben tillman

    “Let’s be honest with ourselves: it ain’t just “neocons” (i.e., Jews interested in pulling all the strings). It’s neofeudalists – good white businessmen willing to flood the country with more customers and cheaper labor if it’ll make them another buck.”

    You realize that is the history of capitalism, right? Is it not their liberty to maximize profits and minimize costs?

    “Like ye olde Southern plantation owners, these men think they can control the consequences when whites become a minority.”

    Then whites can use affirmative action to their advantage!

    “We see what those men ultimately did to the South, and what the modern neofeudalists are doing to the entire country – the entire West – will be just as awful.”

    So today’s businessmen are “neofeudalists”???

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Corvinus

    Do believe that a Mexican majority in California and Texas will grant preferences in hiring, Univision admission, contacting, etc., to non-Hispanic whites? What is the reason or precedent for this expectation as to the fairmindedness of Mexicans?

    Let's keep in mind that when whites are a declining minority of those States (and others), a majority of the judges, police, prosecutors, "civil rights" bureaucracy, and political "representatives" themselves Bing Spanish-speaking Mexicans or part-Mexicans by then.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

  98. “The celebrated Black Lives Matter movement chalked up another riot over the weekend, this time in Milwaukee.

    Get your facts straight, please. There was a riot instigated primarily by a specific segment of the black population devoted to causing trouble that is NOT part of the Black Lives Matter Movement. Moreover, it is not surprising that there would be an incident of this magnitude given the events of the past year. In addition, had you carefully perused the local papers in Milwaukee, you would have noticed pointed condemnation by blacks of this violence. But you have a narrative to keep, so I can see why this escaped your attention.

    “In other words, several hundred blacks burned automobiles and looted buildings, including a cell phone store. A beauty salon was stripped of its hair extensions and then torched.”

    Get your facts straight, please. Out of the several hundred blacks present, a couple dozen were responsible. In any riot, you will have your millers and your agitators, along with people who want to intervene and stop the mob mentality, but are powerless, lest they fall victim.

    “(As we all know, blacks don’t have agency or free will, so it would be inappropriate to ask Wisconsin blacks to choose to behave less destructively.)”

    Confirmation bias on your part. You make it appear that all, or most, or the majority, or nearly–take your pick–are prone to destructiveness. That’s Coalition Of The Right Fringe jive talk.

    “One lesson to be learned from Wisconsin’s sorry history is that poor selection of newcomers can have negative ramifications for generations. We like to hope that migrants will assimilate to our higher standards, but it often turns out that they just drag us down to theirs.”

    Wisconsin has a proud history as a state that has initiated reforms. And, true to form, you make the fundamental mistake by generalizing that blacks who arrived to Wisconsin were merely lured by “free stuff” and lack any sembleace of order.

    Yes, Mr. Sailer, you offer a wealth of facts, things that blacks in these predicaments ought to take responsibility for, such as…

    1. blacks in Wisconsin are 9.0 times more likely than the overall population to use welfare, the worst ratio in the country.

    2. Moreover, the black-white imprisonment ratio in Wisconsin is an extraordinarily high 11.5 to 1.

    3. Wisconsin blacks usually score the lowest in the nation on the federal National Assessment of Educational Progress tests of public school students.

    Liberal welfare, however, is NOT the exclusive the reason why “blacks are behaving badly” in Wisconsin, nor the reason why whites fled Milwaukee.

    “The mainstream media quickly followed up with many think pieces trying to explain exactly what nastiness the seemingly nice white people of Wisconsin had committed that forces Milwaukee blacks to behave so badly.”

    And those think pieces, contrary to your dismissiveness, contain cogent arguments that are historically relevant. Regardless, it is not surprising that the Coalition of the Fringe Left groups and Coalition of the Fringe Right groups continue to finger point and placate their bases on ideological grounds, rather than each take responsibility to solve these problems.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Corvinus

    "Get your facts straight, please. There was a riot instigated primarily by a specific segment of the black population devoted to causing trouble that is NOT part of the Black Lives Matter Movement."

    What would you know about facts? They were shouting "Black Lives Matter". Clearly, they consider themselves part of the movement. In any event, BLM is all about "causing trouble".

    " In any riot, you will have your millers and your agitators, along with people who want to intervene and stop the mob mentality, but are powerless, lest they fall victim."

    Yeah, you have agitators, who really like riots, and millers, who just kind of like riots, and people who just want to "stop the violence" who - in this case - exist only in your imagination. How many black people have been killed at black "stop the violence" rallies?

    Replies: @Corvinus

  99. @Jefferson
    @Anonymous

    "If Trump actually had some sort of political organization, there’d be ads running already with this weave lady and her comments."

    Why is multi-billionaire Donald Trump running his presidential campaign similar to a low budget art house independent film like The Blair Witch Project? His campaign comes off looking like a 3rd Party run with a shoestring budget.

    Meanwhile Hildabeast is running her presidential campaign like it has the blockbuster budget of Star Wars Episode 7 The Force Awakens.

    Replies: @Ulick McGee, @bigbadwolf, @Jack Hanson, @Bill, @Daniel H

    So far, Trump has done ok ignoring the advice of the so-called experts who of course want him to spend a ton of money on themselves. I trust Trump’s instincts. Still plenty of time. Spending a ton of money on ads right now would be just throwing it away. Let’s wait until the debates and see how things develop. That is, if Hillary participates in the debates. I think that there is a remote possibility that she may try and duck some of the debates, claiming, with the support of the media, that Trump is not a serious candidate and not worthy of a presidential debate match-up.

  100. @Matra
    @Maj. Kong

    But if Trump loses, the neocons will be at fault, and I see no alternative than becoming the founder of a right-wing BDS movement.

    The Right should've been doing something like that years ago when the neocons were purging and destroying the entire American Right. Since then they've had a few scrapes due to being the driving force behind the biggest foreign policy blunder in American history, but they are now look like they are on the way back to where they were before Iraq. A Trump loss could mean they have great influence with both main parties as well as continuing to dominate conservative media. Since there doesn't appear to be a legal way of making them pay for what they've done in the US hurting their precious Israel would be one of the few options left.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Whiskey

    One of the frustrating things about much of the Alt-right is their pedestalization and idealization of Professional White women. I give you the Business Insider Aug 8 story on the Monmouth University polls:

    If the election were today and only White men with College degrees voted, Trump would win by 11 points. If only White men without College voted, he’d win by 31 points. If only White women without College voted he’d win by 17 points.

    If only College Degree holding White women voted, HILLARY would win by 3o points.

    Romney took White men without College by 31 points, duplicating Trumps margin on Aug 8. He took White men with College by 21 points, better than Trump by 10 points, and White women without College by 20 points, very similar to what Trump did on Aug 8.

    Romney took White Women with College degrees narrowly by 6 points.

    Neocons are a tiny portion of the population, and Jews not much larger at around 6% if that. Many Jews are hard-core liberal Bernie-ites and endorse a sloppy anti-Israel nationalism while like Bernie buying a third house on Cape Cod for $700K.

    White professional women by contrast are the voters putting Hillary over the top.*** Trump was leading until Khizr Khan baited him and White women decisively sided with the hectoring non-White Muslim over the White man who “forgot his place.” White professional women, in marked contrast with White working class men and women, and to a lesser extent White professional men, *WANT* a cringing caste system with themselves as part of the junior spoils system. And this includes the entire panoply of the corrupt cronyist caste system:

    *No Nationalism (for White countries at least).
    *BDS in both Bush Derangement Syndrome and Boycott Divest whatever with Israel.
    *A corrupt, mostly intermarried and related cronyist system that repudiates meritocracy in practice while assuring its benefactors that meritocracy indeed forms their caste.
    *Mass Third World immigration to provide clients for Nice White Ladies to baby sit, agitate for, and otherwise preen importantly instead of being just ordinary Professional Women pushing meaningless paper around.

    Iraq, Afghanistan, drone-a-terrorist, hug-a-Muslim, these were all the results of a deeply constrained system driven by Nice White Ladies and their spoils interests, delusional thinking that higher status will attract an Uber-Alpha man, delayed marriage after the carousel makes any “settling” for a beta male a source of rage not comfort and a general hatred of their White male professional peers for being both workplace rivals and not the sexy bad boys the culture promised them was their professional accomplishment reward.

    The Media is all in for Hillary! What makes you think they listen to Billy Kristol when they reject even his limited pc-bounded use of force? White men ignore the media and vice versa; TV has been all female/gay since the early 1980s (I even blogged about it, and the core methodology of checking the Wikipedia fall schedule and assigning each show a male or female hour/half hour per day and then adding up for the week is reproducable and no doubt subject to methodology improvement).

    I was singularly unimpressed by Kevin McDonald’s “analysis” of “its the Jewwwwwwws! What was the question” avoiding the elephant in the room — why White College Educated women vote so differently than EVERY OTHER WHITE DEMO.

    Heartiste alone seems to have grasped the situation — he reports that some PUA pioneer is helping Hillary! and the Khizr Khan episode seems to have triggered a free-fall in Trump’s until then lead among White College Women (but not any other demographic group).

    Structurally the only solution is to reduce the White Professional cohort as much as possible by social judo — full SJW demanding White Professional Women “check their privilege” and be replaced … by if possible a Muslima, if not at least by a Muslim or Black or Hispanic. As long as White Professional Women pay no personal cost of being fired for the coalition of the diverse they will happily engage in White Male purges to get a chance to move up one rung on the ladder. Kick them off the ladder entirely for being a White woman —

    You have a Trump voter.

    ***Yes I know, it was Jerry Seinfeld and Howard Stern’s evil Jewish mind-rays “turning” otherwise pure and pro-White Male Professional White women into Hillary voters, because of the centuries old Jewish Plot to turn every place Jews live into one filled with Muslims who love Jews so much.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Whiskey

    "If the election were today and only White men with College degrees voted, Trump would win by 11 points. If only White men without College voted, he’d win by 31 points. If only White women without College voted he’d win by 17 points."

    The reason for these blowout numbers is simple...Hilary is undesirable as a candidate. If Trump was against a Democrat, and a man, who had even a modicum of scruples, those poll numbers would inevitably be different.

    "White professional women by contrast are the voters putting Hillary over the top."

    Which is their prerogative.

    "*No Nationalism (for White countries at least)."

    America is a mutt nation. And its nationalism for Americans is on display at the Olympics.

    "*A corrupt, mostly intermarried and related cronyist system that repudiates meritocracy in practice while assuring its benefactors that meritocracy indeed forms their caste."

    That's over the top rhetoric.

    *Mass Third World immigration to provide clients for Nice White Ladies to baby sit, agitate for, and otherwise preen importantly instead of being just ordinary Professional Women pushing meaningless paper around.

    Our European ancestors were also considered "Third World" given their social standing and educational background. Yet, the current immigrant groups--Mexicans, Hmong, Kenyans--they are blending in fine.

    "Iraq, Afghanistan, drone-a-terrorist, hug-a-Muslim, these were all the results of a deeply constrained system driven by Nice White Ladies and their spoils interests, delusional thinking that higher status will attract an Uber-Alpha man, delayed marriage after the carousel makes any “settling” for a beta male a source of rage not comfort and a general hatred of their White male professional peers for being both workplace rivals and not the sexy bad boys the culture promised them was their professional accomplishment reward."

    Pop psychology Heartiste-style is no substitute for bona fide logic and reason. You're off your rocker on this "analysis".

    "Unless the Alt-Right gets its act together and helps the Bernie types legalize piracy."

    Listen, why don't you figure out the process and calculate the balance sheets and get back to us.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @Whiskey

    Why do you think that Jews are up to six percent of the us population? Closer to two and a half or three percent maximum and falling slowly as the surge of Mexicans reduces everyone else's share of the populations of California, Texas, and nationally.

    , @iSteveFan
    @Whiskey


    Neocons are a tiny portion of the population, and Jews not much larger at around 6% if that.
     
    What percentage of all donated money to democrat, and even GOP, campaigns is from Jewish donors?
    , @iSteveFan
    @Whiskey

    You jump on people who claim Jews exert too much influence by citing their small percentage. But then you jump on white women. Of course now you are excusing most white women and only focusing on 'professional' white women. This appears to represent a major concession from you.

    Well how many white professional women are there? If you go by all white women with a 4- year degree, you would probably have about 18 percent of white women with a 4 year degree or higher. But most professionals probably have a higher degree. So that reduces it down to about 8 percent of white women who have an advanced degree.

    Admittedly white professional women probably form a larger cohort than Jews. But they are by no means a plurality, and I doubt they even come close to the campaign donations that Jews make.

    As for their commitment to the multicult you cite, won't they lose their jobs if they don't support it? Isn't it the professionals who run the greatest risk of social shunning and ostracization if they deviate from the narrative?

  101. One of the other frustrating things about the Alt-Right is a blindness to the power of the media. Steve is one example of this, in that he’s expecting the media to do the right thing or even care about the Milwaukee anti White riots and White (women) being beaten for being White.

    The media neither cares nor wants White male viewers. Why would they, when Women make or influence 85% of consumer purchases. White male oriented commercials stand out — only the fast food chains Carl’s Jr. and Jack-in-the-Box make what amounts to male-oriented commercials.

    The rest of the media is a stew of White professional female, and Black/Hispanic/Muslim toxic idiocy, that goes over very well with their target audience. Look at ESPN — it lost from 2011 to 2016 (start of the year) 10 million subscribers, from 100 million to 90 million.

    Does ESPN care? Of course not, they will continue to be MSNBC with sports, as Ed Driscoll called them, and go full SJW, “Caitlyn” Jenner, etc. because they are made up of people who spent their entire professional lives making infotainment catering the prejudices and likes of Professional White women. Meanwhile Disney make so much money off Animated Princess movies, Marvel/Star Wars action figures, and rides that they can subsidize money losing stuff catering to White Professional women for decades to come.

    Unless the Alt-Right gets its act together and helps the Bernie types legalize piracy. The number one thing to do to destroy the TV infotainment business is make entirely legal, by grass roots campaigning, piracy and torrent sites and the like. Infotainment has been able to make a lot of money and cross-subsidize its anti-White male stuff by having such a high margin on female infotainment. If piracy is legal and safe, “for the people,” then such a strategy becomes unsustainable — to keep the money flowing in for Entertainment expenses: hookers, male prostitutes, drugs, rehab treatments, etc. Entertainment people would have to appeal to …

    White men.

    But that won’t happen without a solid understanding of the economic underpinnings of the current system and a sustained, years-long effort to destroy that foundation.

    There is a reason every White First World nation is headed by a corrupt, crony-ist, incompetent and highly feminine leadership class. And why those without mass female consumerism are largely absent that phenomena: Eastern Europe, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan.

    White Professional women love anti-nationalist, semi-feudal, cronyist, corrupt, incompetent, drama-ridden, crisis mode government that handwrings over reality intruding into fantasy like they love Game of Thrones or the Good Wife. Its why the West is overrun by aging, sick, incompetent relatives of past leaders like Hillary, or the incompetent, effeminate son of a former leader (Trudeau) or the aging spinster anti-nationalist driven by tingles like Merkel. And why Japan for better or worse is not.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Whiskey


    And why those without mass female consumerism are largely absent that phenomena: Eastern Europe, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan.
     
    Is that the only common thread among those nations?
    , @Lagertha
    @Whiskey

    Love this! so good, so true.

  102. I’m pretty sure that if he did, either way, blah blah blah.

    You might be right. I might react just as you, in your infinite wisdom, tell me I will.

    Could be.

    Or maybe not.

    Maybe I, and Maj. Kong, and Matra, and Svigor and all the rest, might become the founders of Netanyahu fan club, retweeting a thousand times a day his tweet that *all* folks oughta get an ethnostate, like he leads.

    But, somehow, I never get that chance to, you know, actually find out what I (and all the rest of us) would do. All I get is you *telling* me what.

    Funny that.

  103. Translation of your translation: I’m changing the subject because I don’t want to answer your question honestly.

    Sort of how you changed the subject from Netanyahu to “becoming a Jew lover,” or whatever.

    “They’ll hate us no matter what we do” is a classic bad guy rationalization.

  104. @Wilkey
    @Matra

    "The Right should’ve been doing something like that years ago when the neocons were purging and destroying the entire American Right."

    Let's be honest with ourselves: it ain't just "neocons" (i.e., Jews interested in pulling all the strings). It's neofeudalists - good white businessmen willing to flood the country with more customers and cheaper labor if it'll make them another buck. Like ye olde Southern plantation owners, these men think they can control the consequences when whites become a minority. We see what those men ultimately did to the South, and what the modern neofeudalists are doing to the entire country - the entire West - will be just as awful.

    Replies: @avraham, @Corvinus, @ben tillman

    Let’s be honest with ourselves: it ain’t just “neocons” (i.e., Jews interested in pulling all the strings). It’s neofeudalists – good white businessmen willing to flood the country with more customers and cheaper labor if it’ll make them another buck.

    First, there’s no resemblance to feudalism. Second, the actions of the white businessmen are an effect, not a cause. They played no role whatsoever in 1965, and today they’re just caught in a race to the bottom with the country having been turned into a commons.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @ben tillman

    "First, there’s no resemblance to feudalism."

    Flood the country with cheap, pliant labor. Entrap the working class in debt. Move all the wealth and power to the top, and make the elite more a matter of lineage than of merit. If the people ever catch on and try to correct things overrun their will with a ruling by an unelected elite (like, say, the Supreme Court). And don't forget the state religion: Catholicism then, Multiculturalism now - each religion designed all the better to get the people to accept their fate without complaint.

    It's a lot like feudalism.

    Replies: @Gross Terry

  105. Steve, do you have any proof that welfare policy changes in the 70s attracted a mass immigration of blacks to Wisconsin?

    Taking a quick look at the data, the black proportion of the population of WI had been increasing for decades prior to these changes.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Anonymous

    I have relatives in the north shore suburbs of Chicago (from whence their grandparents fled) and one family in Wisconsin.
    This is the general consensus. Some blacks cane to Wisconsin in WW2 to work in war industries and remained and most were married and they worked.
    The affirmative action government workers teachers and affirmative action professionals are their descendants

    By 1960 Chicago blacks had destroyed about two thirds of the city. Plus many had outstanding warrants and were the usual suspects in crime investigations

    By 1965 the housing projects were full and black tenants and legal aid societies were destroying private sector rentals with rent strikes that went on for years so the buildings fell apart. Some landlords wrote quit claim deeds and sold the buildings to the tenants associations for one dollar.

    These were beautiful brick and stone buildings built between 1920 and 1930, only 40 or 50 years old in 1965.

    LBJ's programs greatly expanded welfare. Wisconsin at the time was basically a large scale German communal village with plenty of welfare for those in need.

    Chicago's dreck blacks moved en masse to
    Wisconsin for the welfare that was much higher than I'll. Other major motives were death threats against them by their black criminal buddies, desire to get their children out of the jungle schools and neighborhoods the blacks created, get the young adults and teens away from the black stone Rangers and other notorious gangs etc Basically the Chicago blacks wanted to escape from other Chicago blacks.

    Somewhere on the internet you can find an article about what the black dreck of Chicago did to an idyllic Wisconsin town, Kenosha The black, I can't call them children turned the schools into Lord of the Flies jungles in a few years.

    Ask anyone in N Illinois or Wisconsin and they will tell you exactly what I am writing

    The welfare offices had to hire new workers and open up new offices wherever the Black Plague landed in Wisconsin

    , @The Practical Conservative
    @Anonymous

    You have to look at birth rates. I took a look at higher-order births in Wisconsin for the last few years (2007-2014), and there is some evidence even working from recent data of a small hard core of multigenerational, multiparous black single mothers.

  106. @South Texas Guy
    @Johan Schmidt

    Alternative media still only gets a thimblefull of viewers compared to the buckets of viewers that network news, local new TV news and newspapers get, so that whole idea of him being balanced by the internet is dead in the water.
    BTW, I'm thinking Trump made the basic mistake that McCain did, thinking that because he was the media darling (for various, but well known reasons), he'd continue to be one during the general election.
    I forget who the lefty journo was who said it a few years back, but I give him points for honesty, when he said that during a presidential election, it amounts to about an extra five points for democrats.

    Replies: @Eric Novak

    Gimme a break. Trump is supported by Drudge. That’s all any candidate needs-1.5 billion page views per month.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Eric Novak

    Fantastic if drudge is supporting trump, though I've never visited his site or cared what he has to say.

    You're right that such support should help trump meaningfully.

    But our youngest voters, who presumably spend the most time online and get more "news" and commentary online than from tv and print sources, favor Clinton strongly, don't they? I don't understand it, but it seems to be a fact.

  107. @ben tillman
    @Wilkey


    Let’s be honest with ourselves: it ain’t just “neocons” (i.e., Jews interested in pulling all the strings). It’s neofeudalists – good white businessmen willing to flood the country with more customers and cheaper labor if it’ll make them another buck.
     
    First, there's no resemblance to feudalism. Second, the actions of the white businessmen are an effect, not a cause. They played no role whatsoever in 1965, and today they're just caught in a race to the bottom with the country having been turned into a commons.

    Replies: @Wilkey

    “First, there’s no resemblance to feudalism.”

    Flood the country with cheap, pliant labor. Entrap the working class in debt. Move all the wealth and power to the top, and make the elite more a matter of lineage than of merit. If the people ever catch on and try to correct things overrun their will with a ruling by an unelected elite (like, say, the Supreme Court). And don’t forget the state religion: Catholicism then, Multiculturalism now – each religion designed all the better to get the people to accept their fate without complaint.

    It’s a lot like feudalism.

    • Replies: @Gross Terry
    @Wilkey

    feudalism was a reaction to a collapse in central authority / currency, by forming customary relationships of economic support for protection.

    Our current system is one of hyper centralization of the monopole city at the expense and neglect of the periphery... its late empire, not young feudalism. We'll get feudalism when the dollar bounces and the army deserts.

    Replies: @ben tillman

  108. A White freelance reporter named Tim Pool pulled out of Milwaukee during the Negro riots because he feared for his life.
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/15/white-reporter-pulls-out-of-milwaukee-because-of-racial-threats-video/

    Tim Pool said the Dindus in Milwaukee were physically attacking anybody who looks White. They even tried to pull White drivers out of their cars. One White person was shot in the neck. Another White person was chased by a gang of Negroes all the way back to the hotel he was staying at.

    Among the mainstream media only Fox News has covered the part of the riots where White people were terrorized.

    Sean Hannity talked about it yesterday and Bill O’Reilly talked about it today.

    Don’t expect Barack Hussein Obama to comment on it, because if he had a son he wouldn’t look like Tim Pool.

    Can you imagine if the racial roles in the Milwaukee riots were reversed? They would say it was Donald Trump supporters who were rioting and terrorizing Blacks.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Jefferson

    "Among the mainstream media only Fox News has covered the part of the riots where White people were terrorized."

    That's their job as the mouthpiece of the Coalition of the Fringe Right to spread the word how every single black person out there was trying to earn their white notch-count badge. It's a mob mentality. Do you have any clue about the psychology behind it?

  109. @Bill
    @Jack D


    WE created Sylville.
     
    If by "we," you mean WASP elites and Jews, then yes.

    Black men were never an ideal industrial workforce, but back in the day industrialists used to put up with them because they had no choice.
     
    Well, no. Their other choice was to pay the Polacks, Mics, Archie Bunkers, and Dagos more. They didn't want to do that, so black sharecroppers it was.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Alden, @Former Darfur

    There were only so many Polacks and Dagos to go around. In the post war period, labor markets were very tight – if you stole someone else’s workers by paying them more, there’s still an unfilled position somewhere. He ran a union plant so pay was not the issue.

    • Replies: @Bill
    @Jack D

    No, it was wages. Raise them enough and employers lose their taste for extra labor. Law of Demand and all that.

  110. @Bill
    @Almost Missouri

    Carrying this into action seems to be a barrier that blacks or their handlers are not willing to cross. It's easy to see why. A black riot in a white suburban neighborhood is fairly likely to encounter armed resistance, resulting in many dead blacks. But that would bring up the question of how the media and the state should react. Do you charge a bunch of white racists with murder? That's a hard decision to take. The true believers would very much want to charge the white racists with murder. The sane-but-evil overlords would have to worry about what the consequences to that might be.

    On the other hand, that woman's logic is hard to fault. If black failure really is the fault of random middle class whites, then blacks really ought to go burn down white suburbs, right? Is Soros really confident that he won't lose control of BLM?

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Carrying this into action seems to be a barrier that blacks or their handlers are not willing to cross. It’s easy to see why. A black riot in a white suburban neighborhood is fairly likely to encounter armed resistance, resulting in many dead blacks.”

    Most White suburbs in America do not have mass public transportation. Most of the thug Negro underclass in the big cities can not afford to take an Uber to to the suburbs.

    Thank low car ownership in the hood for why Negro riots have never took place in the Whitopias.

  111. @Whiskey
    @Matra

    One of the frustrating things about much of the Alt-right is their pedestalization and idealization of Professional White women. I give you the Business Insider Aug 8 story on the Monmouth University polls:

    If the election were today and only White men with College degrees voted, Trump would win by 11 points. If only White men without College voted, he'd win by 31 points. If only White women without College voted he'd win by 17 points.

    If only College Degree holding White women voted, HILLARY would win by 3o points.

    Romney took White men without College by 31 points, duplicating Trumps margin on Aug 8. He took White men with College by 21 points, better than Trump by 10 points, and White women without College by 20 points, very similar to what Trump did on Aug 8.

    Romney took White Women with College degrees narrowly by 6 points.

    Neocons are a tiny portion of the population, and Jews not much larger at around 6% if that. Many Jews are hard-core liberal Bernie-ites and endorse a sloppy anti-Israel nationalism while like Bernie buying a third house on Cape Cod for $700K.

    White professional women by contrast are the voters putting Hillary over the top.*** Trump was leading until Khizr Khan baited him and White women decisively sided with the hectoring non-White Muslim over the White man who "forgot his place." White professional women, in marked contrast with White working class men and women, and to a lesser extent White professional men, *WANT* a cringing caste system with themselves as part of the junior spoils system. And this includes the entire panoply of the corrupt cronyist caste system:

    *No Nationalism (for White countries at least).
    *BDS in both Bush Derangement Syndrome and Boycott Divest whatever with Israel.
    *A corrupt, mostly intermarried and related cronyist system that repudiates meritocracy in practice while assuring its benefactors that meritocracy indeed forms their caste.
    *Mass Third World immigration to provide clients for Nice White Ladies to baby sit, agitate for, and otherwise preen importantly instead of being just ordinary Professional Women pushing meaningless paper around.

    Iraq, Afghanistan, drone-a-terrorist, hug-a-Muslim, these were all the results of a deeply constrained system driven by Nice White Ladies and their spoils interests, delusional thinking that higher status will attract an Uber-Alpha man, delayed marriage after the carousel makes any "settling" for a beta male a source of rage not comfort and a general hatred of their White male professional peers for being both workplace rivals and not the sexy bad boys the culture promised them was their professional accomplishment reward.

    The Media is all in for Hillary! What makes you think they listen to Billy Kristol when they reject even his limited pc-bounded use of force? White men ignore the media and vice versa; TV has been all female/gay since the early 1980s (I even blogged about it, and the core methodology of checking the Wikipedia fall schedule and assigning each show a male or female hour/half hour per day and then adding up for the week is reproducable and no doubt subject to methodology improvement).

    I was singularly unimpressed by Kevin McDonald's "analysis" of "its the Jewwwwwwws! What was the question" avoiding the elephant in the room -- why White College Educated women vote so differently than EVERY OTHER WHITE DEMO.

    Heartiste alone seems to have grasped the situation -- he reports that some PUA pioneer is helping Hillary! and the Khizr Khan episode seems to have triggered a free-fall in Trump's until then lead among White College Women (but not any other demographic group).

    Structurally the only solution is to reduce the White Professional cohort as much as possible by social judo -- full SJW demanding White Professional Women "check their privilege" and be replaced ... by if possible a Muslima, if not at least by a Muslim or Black or Hispanic. As long as White Professional Women pay no personal cost of being fired for the coalition of the diverse they will happily engage in White Male purges to get a chance to move up one rung on the ladder. Kick them off the ladder entirely for being a White woman --

    You have a Trump voter.

    ***Yes I know, it was Jerry Seinfeld and Howard Stern's evil Jewish mind-rays "turning" otherwise pure and pro-White Male Professional White women into Hillary voters, because of the centuries old Jewish Plot to turn every place Jews live into one filled with Muslims who love Jews so much.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @RadicalCenter, @iSteveFan, @iSteveFan

    “If the election were today and only White men with College degrees voted, Trump would win by 11 points. If only White men without College voted, he’d win by 31 points. If only White women without College voted he’d win by 17 points.”

    The reason for these blowout numbers is simple…Hilary is undesirable as a candidate. If Trump was against a Democrat, and a man, who had even a modicum of scruples, those poll numbers would inevitably be different.

    “White professional women by contrast are the voters putting Hillary over the top.”

    Which is their prerogative.

    “*No Nationalism (for White countries at least).”

    America is a mutt nation. And its nationalism for Americans is on display at the Olympics.

    “*A corrupt, mostly intermarried and related cronyist system that repudiates meritocracy in practice while assuring its benefactors that meritocracy indeed forms their caste.”

    That’s over the top rhetoric.

    *Mass Third World immigration to provide clients for Nice White Ladies to baby sit, agitate for, and otherwise preen importantly instead of being just ordinary Professional Women pushing meaningless paper around.

    Our European ancestors were also considered “Third World” given their social standing and educational background. Yet, the current immigrant groups–Mexicans, Hmong, Kenyans–they are blending in fine.

    “Iraq, Afghanistan, drone-a-terrorist, hug-a-Muslim, these were all the results of a deeply constrained system driven by Nice White Ladies and their spoils interests, delusional thinking that higher status will attract an Uber-Alpha man, delayed marriage after the carousel makes any “settling” for a beta male a source of rage not comfort and a general hatred of their White male professional peers for being both workplace rivals and not the sexy bad boys the culture promised them was their professional accomplishment reward.”

    Pop psychology Heartiste-style is no substitute for bona fide logic and reason. You’re off your rocker on this “analysis”.

    “Unless the Alt-Right gets its act together and helps the Bernie types legalize piracy.”

    Listen, why don’t you figure out the process and calculate the balance sheets and get back to us.

  112. @Jefferson
    A White freelance reporter named Tim Pool pulled out of Milwaukee during the Negro riots because he feared for his life.
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/15/white-reporter-pulls-out-of-milwaukee-because-of-racial-threats-video/

    Tim Pool said the Dindus in Milwaukee were physically attacking anybody who looks White. They even tried to pull White drivers out of their cars. One White person was shot in the neck. Another White person was chased by a gang of Negroes all the way back to the hotel he was staying at.

    Among the mainstream media only Fox News has covered the part of the riots where White people were terrorized.

    Sean Hannity talked about it yesterday and Bill O'Reilly talked about it today.

    Don't expect Barack Hussein Obama to comment on it, because if he had a son he wouldn't look like Tim Pool.

    Can you imagine if the racial roles in the Milwaukee riots were reversed? They would say it was Donald Trump supporters who were rioting and terrorizing Blacks.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Among the mainstream media only Fox News has covered the part of the riots where White people were terrorized.”

    That’s their job as the mouthpiece of the Coalition of the Fringe Right to spread the word how every single black person out there was trying to earn their white notch-count badge. It’s a mob mentality. Do you have any clue about the psychology behind it?

  113. Marty [AKA "coot veal or cot deal"] says:

    I just now witnessed a real-time confirmation of Whiskey’s thesis, above, about the nature of women’s opposition to Trump. At a popular Mexican restaurant in Mill Valley, five women are celebrating a birthday. Four appear to be Indian, one white. The woman doing all the talking is a strikingly pretty dotter of about 30. She may be a physician – there’s a lot of obstetrical talk. She tells the others that the reason to vote for Hillary is technocratic experience – Trump’s gov’t outsider status is a drawback. Then she says, “men are voting for him because they’re trying to get back what they’ve lost in the workforce.”

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Marty


    She tells the others that the reason to vote for Hillary is technocratic experience – Trump’s gov’t outsider status is a drawback. Then she says, “men are voting for him because they’re trying to get back what they’ve lost in the workforce.”
     
    Women--generally--don't even know what they don't know.

    Hillary's "technocratic experience" is indeed of the sort that women value--she's had some titles. The reality is she's been an absolute disaster at actual achievement in every managerial role she's had--e.g. health care task force, secretary of state. Her "technical experience" indicates that her actual technical competence is very low.

    In fairness, the cute dotter is on to something that men are unhappy with where things are headed in the workforce. However, she's almost certainly absolute ignorant of the reality that it is *men* who are making her life comfy and nice. Women do *almost nothing* in the workforce that is actually critical.

    Our prosperous reality comes from the work of men--in oil and natural gas fields, on farms, in mines, in power plants, water treatment plants, laying pipelines, building roads, buildings, housing, writing computer code, fixing cars ... If women simply didn't show up to work tomorrow ... we'd survive! A bunch of guys would have answer phones and do more clerical work. A bunch of guys would have to be drafted to show up at the schools to teach. Only nursing i'd say--a traditional female career, with a mission critical skill set--would we have something of a crisis. (Some patients would definitely die.) More female careerism and empowerment isn't saving the nation, it's just more overhead the dwindling supply of productive men have to drag around.

    Mostly men are voting for Trump because they are less conformist and more realistic and logical about the bucket of shit our elites are serving up and the grim future in store.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Jefferson

  114. @Corvinus
    “The celebrated Black Lives Matter movement chalked up another riot over the weekend, this time in Milwaukee.

    Get your facts straight, please. There was a riot instigated primarily by a specific segment of the black population devoted to causing trouble that is NOT part of the Black Lives Matter Movement. Moreover, it is not surprising that there would be an incident of this magnitude given the events of the past year. In addition, had you carefully perused the local papers in Milwaukee, you would have noticed pointed condemnation by blacks of this violence. But you have a narrative to keep, so I can see why this escaped your attention.

    “In other words, several hundred blacks burned automobiles and looted buildings, including a cell phone store. A beauty salon was stripped of its hair extensions and then torched.”

    Get your facts straight, please. Out of the several hundred blacks present, a couple dozen were responsible. In any riot, you will have your millers and your agitators, along with people who want to intervene and stop the mob mentality, but are powerless, lest they fall victim.

    “(As we all know, blacks don’t have agency or free will, so it would be inappropriate to ask Wisconsin blacks to choose to behave less destructively.)”

    Confirmation bias on your part. You make it appear that all, or most, or the majority, or nearly--take your pick--are prone to destructiveness. That’s Coalition Of The Right Fringe jive talk.

    “One lesson to be learned from Wisconsin’s sorry history is that poor selection of newcomers can have negative ramifications for generations. We like to hope that migrants will assimilate to our higher standards, but it often turns out that they just drag us down to theirs.”

    Wisconsin has a proud history as a state that has initiated reforms. And, true to form, you make the fundamental mistake by generalizing that blacks who arrived to Wisconsin were merely lured by “free stuff” and lack any sembleace of order.

    Yes, Mr. Sailer, you offer a wealth of facts, things that blacks in these predicaments ought to take responsibility for, such as...

    1. blacks in Wisconsin are 9.0 times more likely than the overall population to use welfare, the worst ratio in the country.

    2. Moreover, the black-white imprisonment ratio in Wisconsin is an extraordinarily high 11.5 to 1.

    3. Wisconsin blacks usually score the lowest in the nation on the federal National Assessment of Educational Progress tests of public school students.

    Liberal welfare, however, is NOT the exclusive the reason why "blacks are behaving badly" in Wisconsin, nor the reason why whites fled Milwaukee.

    “The mainstream media quickly followed up with many think pieces trying to explain exactly what nastiness the seemingly nice white people of Wisconsin had committed that forces Milwaukee blacks to behave so badly.”

    And those think pieces, contrary to your dismissiveness, contain cogent arguments that are historically relevant. Regardless, it is not surprising that the Coalition of the Fringe Left groups and Coalition of the Fringe Right groups continue to finger point and placate their bases on ideological grounds, rather than each take responsibility to solve these problems.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    “Get your facts straight, please. There was a riot instigated primarily by a specific segment of the black population devoted to causing trouble that is NOT part of the Black Lives Matter Movement.”

    What would you know about facts? They were shouting “Black Lives Matter”. Clearly, they consider themselves part of the movement. In any event, BLM is all about “causing trouble”.

    ” In any riot, you will have your millers and your agitators, along with people who want to intervene and stop the mob mentality, but are powerless, lest they fall victim.”

    Yeah, you have agitators, who really like riots, and millers, who just kind of like riots, and people who just want to “stop the violence” who – in this case – exist only in your imagination. How many black people have been killed at black “stop the violence” rallies?

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Mr. Anon

    "What would you know about facts? They were shouting “Black Lives Matter”. Clearly, they consider themselves part of the movement. In any event, BLM is all about “causing trouble”."

    If a white person says "Death to blacks", is he automatically a card carrying member of the KKK?
    Furthermore, BLM is a political and social movement that, like any movement, will have their fair share of over the top agitators.

    "Yeah, you have agitators, who really like riots, and millers, who just kind of like riots, and people who just want to “stop the violence” who – in this case – exist only in your imagination."

    The only imagination is you believing that all black people act and think alike. In the aftermath, local leaders in the black and white community held a vigil to promote peace and condemn the violence.

    Replies: @Gross Terry, @Buffalo Joe, @iSteveFan

  115. @Bill
    @Jack D


    WE created Sylville.
     
    If by "we," you mean WASP elites and Jews, then yes.

    Black men were never an ideal industrial workforce, but back in the day industrialists used to put up with them because they had no choice.
     
    Well, no. Their other choice was to pay the Polacks, Mics, Archie Bunkers, and Dagos more. They didn't want to do that, so black sharecroppers it was.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Alden, @Former Darfur

    It takes too long and too much organization to get to the suburbs. By half way there they would get bored and start fighting amongst themselves.

    I lived in Los Angeles during the Rodney King riots. They destroyed the midwilshire Korea town area not far from me but they never got within 6 miles of my neighborhood.

    Plus a major, major incentive is loot. If they did get to the suburbs they would burn and loot the shopping centers and. Leave the residential neighborhoods alone

  116. @Jack D
    @Matra

    Translation of your translation: I'm changing the subject because I don't want to answer your question honestly.

    I repeat - why should Netanyahu express ANY opinion on this subject? I'm pretty sure that if he did, either way, whoever in the West disagreed with him would hate him and Israel even more than they already do (I'm sure you would if he came out in favor of globalism), so what does he have to gain by interfering in the internal politics of other countries? Of course you would love to have more people agreeing with YOUR particular pet peeves - the more the merrier, but the right thing for him to do (for all leaders to do) is to stay the hell out of the internal politics of other people's countries. Although Israel is actually much more multi-cultural than American rightists understand, Netanyahu is pretty conservative and the best he can do is run his own country in a proper way so that others can learn by his example, not from meaningless endorsements.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Mr. Anon, @iSteveFan

    “I’m pretty sure that if he did, either way, whoever in the West disagreed with him would hate him and Israel even more than they already do (I’m sure you would if he came out in favor of globalism), so what does he have to gain by interfering in the internal politics of other countries?”

    Do you maintain that Netanyahu does not interfere in american politics? What was that finger-wagging speech given before a joint session of Congress then? Why did he speak out against Trump’s call for a moratorium on muslim immigration? If he has nothing to gain thereby……….why did he do it?

  117. @Buddwing
    There is an understandable tendency to look at internal black migration from a Northern destination perspective, rather than a Southern source perspective. That is from the point of view of Milwaukee, rather than Mississippi.

    Out-migration vastly changed the South. In 1900, at the height of Jim Crow, Mississippi was 58.5% back (907,630 out of 1,551,270). In 1940, when black population peaked, it was only 49.2% (1,074,578 out of 2,183,796). By 1970 it was only 36.8% (815,770 out of 2,216,912).
    This decline in population, particularity the relative population, made voting rights and segregation far more addressable in 1970 than ever before. The same pattern of relative decline holds throughout the deep South, with absolute declines in AL, GA, MS, and SC in this period.

    Numbers from Census Bureau Population Division Working Paper No. 56 from 2002.

    Replies: @Alden

    The migration of the Black Plague to the northern cities was the confederate revenge for losing the civil war.

    • LOL: BB753
  118. @avraham
    @Wilkey

    This is the first comment that accurately describes my feelings. I grieved me when I saw the country being flooded by blacks. Then it grieved me even more when I saw it being overrun by Muslims. Then the last straw was to see the Jews being blamed for it all. The people that brought in the blacks were not Jewish; they were Southern Businessmen. And the people that flooded the country with Muslims were not Jewish. The Jews are simply the most convenient scapegoat for what White Anglo Saxon Protestants did to themselves.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Hippopotamusdrome, @Bleuteaux

    “I grieved me when I saw the country being flooded by blacks.”

    Really? You were alive in the 18th century? Pleased to make your aquaintance, Monsieur le Comte de Saint Germain.

    “The people that brought in the blacks were not Jewish; they were Southern Businessmen. And the people that flooded the country with Muslims were not Jewish. The Jews are simply the most convenient scapegoat for what White Anglo Saxon Protestants did to themselves.”

    You mean to say that there were no Jews who owned or traded slaves? None?

    Emmanuel Cellar drafted the 1965 immigration law, after laboring for 40 years in Congress to change american immigration policy into what it is today. Was he anglo-saxon? David Gelbaum gave the Sierra Club $100 million in exchange for them dropping any opposition to immigration. Is he anglo-saxon? Some rather simple google searches of organizations that promote immigration would turn up numerous other correlations.

    • Replies: @avraham
    @Mr. Anon

    I see your point. I also noticed Jewish people involved in civil rights movements and such things that seemed ignore the fact that they were hurting the white working people (the basic WASP backbone and strength of the USA). I had no idea why the human consequences of such actions were ignored and I still don't. But I simply meant to bring attention that there are Jews that did not and do not agree. These people are usually not taken as spokesmen for Jews as group. These people are ignored.

  119. @Jefferson
    @syonredux

    "I’m sorry, but this is a very silly statement."

    Why is that? If statistics ever came out about the educational gap between Blacks and Jews, you know it would be jaw droppingly wide.

    There is a reason why Jews are vastly overrepresented among career fields which require having a high IQ. For example you know damn well that more than 2 percent of America's surgeons are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America's engineers are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America's scientists are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America's tech entrepreneurs are Jewish and so on.

    Blacks don't represent 13 percent of any of those career fields. Negro success pales in comparison to Jewish success.

    Replies: @Foreign Expert, @RadicalCenter, @syonredux, @Bill

    .

    Negro success pales in comparison to Jewish success.

    Very pale.

  120. @Talpiot/Ullastret
    @Maj. Kong

    That's fine.

    I'm a non-Jew living in Israel. Most Israelis I talk to think Trump sounds like the better candidate. Most Israelis are relatively unsophisticated, brutish, Eastern European- or Middle Eastern-type people.

    I generally support the severing of Israel from the Jewish diaspora, at least the American one. It's happening already anyway. But BDS won't work because one of the demands of BDS is the dissolution of Israel. Israelis aren't Swedes -- they won't voluntarily commit suicide.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @snorlax

    You may be mistaken about Jews not voluntarily committing national suicide in Israel. Don’t Muslims in Israel have a consistently higher total fertility rate than Jews in Israel? Orthodox and Hasidic Have high fertility rates like the Muslims, but those Jews apparently are not the majority of Jews in Israel (yet).

    Sad to say for the prospect of peaceful coexistence within Israel, but the likeliest scenario seems to be an Israel that becomes plurality and eventually majority Muslim, with most of the remaining Jews being fanatical hyper-religious zealots who believe even more than secular Jews that Muslims (or, indeed, non-Jews generally) are not worthy of any respect or compromise.

    Israel, like the USA, never should have allowed any known or suspected Muslims to settle there as citizens or permanent residents, and soon it may be too late to reverse the demographic takeover in both places, let alone to do so peacefully.

  121. @AndrewR
    @Johan Schmidt

    We have an alternative media that few internet users follow, let alone internet non-users.

    Trump needs to be running primetime ads with this girl. The people calling him an evil racist bigot are going to call him that no matter what he does. All he needs is for a critical mass of Nice Folk to be more afraid of the dindu menace Hillary caters to than the big meanie Donald.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Exactly right. Fairness and a fair hearing will never be forthcoming from the left, or from african-“Americans.” Trump should truthfully report and emphasize the growing violence and intimidation that Africans here are inflicting on all non-Africans, and pump up turnout by the “nice” fools you mention. It’s a case of telling the truth being good politics as well.

  122. @Jack D
    @Maj. Kong

    Be honest, there is nothing that Netanyahu could do that would make you into a Jew lover. If he were to weigh in on these issues, you would accuse him of interfering with the SELF-DETERMINATION of white nations. The taint is in the blood, so stop pretending that you would ever like him no matter what impossibly high imaginary sht test of yours he met.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Matra, @Mr. Anon, @RadicalCenter

    “Be honest, there is nothing that Netanyahu could do that would make you into a Jew lover.”

    Is that the standard then? Must everyone love your people? Maybe attitude is part of the problem.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Mr. Anon

    I would settle for indifferent. What is your opinion on Serbians or Tajikistanis? Most people don't have one. When stuff goes wrong, they don't blame Bulgarians or Swedes. I want it to be like that.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

  123. @Jack D
    @Maj. Kong

    Be honest, there is nothing that Netanyahu could do that would make you into a Jew lover. If he were to weigh in on these issues, you would accuse him of interfering with the SELF-DETERMINATION of white nations. The taint is in the blood, so stop pretending that you would ever like him no matter what impossibly high imaginary sht test of yours he met.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Matra, @Mr. Anon, @RadicalCenter

    I’d gladly respect the right of Jews to keep Israel Jewish, and safe for Jewish people and their traditional culture, language, and mores, if they reflected our right to do the same for our people in our lands.

    Having a Jewish country reserved entirely or predominantly for Jewish people over there would pose no threat or insult to me, my family, or my nation. Just mind their fucking business and stop lecturing us about how we are terribly racist to want to keep our country for our people.

  124. @Marty T
    Its amazing states like Wisconsin supported Obama, what with their especially bad black populations. Somehow half the white people in the state wanted one of them to lead the free world.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    I doubt that a majority of the whites in Wisconsin voted for Obama. But far too many did.

  125. @Stan Adams
    @Jefferson

    There are some goys with triple-digit IQs, you know.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Most “Jews” are themselves genetically a substantial part Germanic or Slavic, not just Semitic.

    On top of that, as other columns on Unz.com point out, even the so-called “really Jewish” s / non-Germanic/Slavic component of today’s “Jews” appears in fact to be partially Italian.

    So rather than America or Gentiles owing some of our higher average intelligence and creativity to the “Jewish” part of our population, the highly non-Jewish “Jews” owe gratitude to their Italic, Germanic, and Slavic genes, more than anything else, for much of their intelligence and creativity.

  126. @Jefferson
    @syonredux

    "I’m sorry, but this is a very silly statement."

    Why is that? If statistics ever came out about the educational gap between Blacks and Jews, you know it would be jaw droppingly wide.

    There is a reason why Jews are vastly overrepresented among career fields which require having a high IQ. For example you know damn well that more than 2 percent of America's surgeons are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America's engineers are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America's scientists are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America's tech entrepreneurs are Jewish and so on.

    Blacks don't represent 13 percent of any of those career fields. Negro success pales in comparison to Jewish success.

    Replies: @Foreign Expert, @RadicalCenter, @syonredux, @Bill

    See my comment about “Jews” typically having substantial ITALIAN, Germanic, and Slavic genes, often more than their Semitic genetic background.

    The so-called Jews have done wonders with the superior genes they received from very non-Jewish white people.

    You are welcome.

  127. @vinteuil
    Sorry, OT - but has anybody else noticed that National Review Online has turned over their comments section to Facebook? So, if you comment there, they publish your workplace, or other identifying information, alongside your sig? A blatant attempt to intimidate dissidents.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Another reason why it is a mistake to ever join or visit Facebook.

  128. @Jefferson
    @Jack D

    "Although Israel is actually much more multi-cultural than American rightists understand,"

    Israel is nowhere near as ethnically homogeneous as Mainland China and Japan. 26 percent of Israel'population is Non Jewish and that percentage just keeps growing as Arab Muslims breed like cockroaches.

    China is 92 percent ethnically Han and Japan is 98 percent ethnically Japanese.

    Israel could only dream of being an over 90 percent Jewish nation.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @syonredux

    It will be pretty damn funny to see the racial-supremacist Jews of Israel be oppressed, threatened, marginalized, discriminated against, and eventually wiped out in Israel itself.

    Except that we will probably be too busy fighting a civil war against the Mexican and African fifth columns here in the former “USA” to focus much on Schadenfreude.

  129. @Anonymous
    Steve, do you have any proof that welfare policy changes in the 70s attracted a mass immigration of blacks to Wisconsin?

    Taking a quick look at the data, the black proportion of the population of WI had been increasing for decades prior to these changes.

    Replies: @Alden, @The Practical Conservative

    I have relatives in the north shore suburbs of Chicago (from whence their grandparents fled) and one family in Wisconsin.
    This is the general consensus. Some blacks cane to Wisconsin in WW2 to work in war industries and remained and most were married and they worked.
    The affirmative action government workers teachers and affirmative action professionals are their descendants

    By 1960 Chicago blacks had destroyed about two thirds of the city. Plus many had outstanding warrants and were the usual suspects in crime investigations

    By 1965 the housing projects were full and black tenants and legal aid societies were destroying private sector rentals with rent strikes that went on for years so the buildings fell apart. Some landlords wrote quit claim deeds and sold the buildings to the tenants associations for one dollar.

    These were beautiful brick and stone buildings built between 1920 and 1930, only 40 or 50 years old in 1965.

    LBJ’s programs greatly expanded welfare. Wisconsin at the time was basically a large scale German communal village with plenty of welfare for those in need.

    Chicago’s dreck blacks moved en masse to
    Wisconsin for the welfare that was much higher than I’ll. Other major motives were death threats against them by their black criminal buddies, desire to get their children out of the jungle schools and neighborhoods the blacks created, get the young adults and teens away from the black stone Rangers and other notorious gangs etc Basically the Chicago blacks wanted to escape from other Chicago blacks.

    Somewhere on the internet you can find an article about what the black dreck of Chicago did to an idyllic Wisconsin town, Kenosha The black, I can’t call them children turned the schools into Lord of the Flies jungles in a few years.

    Ask anyone in N Illinois or Wisconsin and they will tell you exactly what I am writing

    The welfare offices had to hire new workers and open up new offices wherever the Black Plague landed in Wisconsin

  130. @Corvinus
    @Wilkey

    "Let’s be honest with ourselves: it ain’t just “neocons” (i.e., Jews interested in pulling all the strings). It’s neofeudalists – good white businessmen willing to flood the country with more customers and cheaper labor if it’ll make them another buck."

    You realize that is the history of capitalism, right? Is it not their liberty to maximize profits and minimize costs?

    "Like ye olde Southern plantation owners, these men think they can control the consequences when whites become a minority."

    Then whites can use affirmative action to their advantage!

    "We see what those men ultimately did to the South, and what the modern neofeudalists are doing to the entire country – the entire West – will be just as awful."

    So today's businessmen are "neofeudalists"???

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Do believe that a Mexican majority in California and Texas will grant preferences in hiring, Univision admission, contacting, etc., to non-Hispanic whites? What is the reason or precedent for this expectation as to the fairmindedness of Mexicans?

    Let’s keep in mind that when whites are a declining minority of those States (and others), a majority of the judges, police, prosecutors, “civil rights” bureaucracy, and political “representatives” themselves Bing Spanish-speaking Mexicans or part-Mexicans by then.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @RadicalCenter

    Unz, please please offer an edit function already.

  131. @Whiskey
    @Matra

    One of the frustrating things about much of the Alt-right is their pedestalization and idealization of Professional White women. I give you the Business Insider Aug 8 story on the Monmouth University polls:

    If the election were today and only White men with College degrees voted, Trump would win by 11 points. If only White men without College voted, he'd win by 31 points. If only White women without College voted he'd win by 17 points.

    If only College Degree holding White women voted, HILLARY would win by 3o points.

    Romney took White men without College by 31 points, duplicating Trumps margin on Aug 8. He took White men with College by 21 points, better than Trump by 10 points, and White women without College by 20 points, very similar to what Trump did on Aug 8.

    Romney took White Women with College degrees narrowly by 6 points.

    Neocons are a tiny portion of the population, and Jews not much larger at around 6% if that. Many Jews are hard-core liberal Bernie-ites and endorse a sloppy anti-Israel nationalism while like Bernie buying a third house on Cape Cod for $700K.

    White professional women by contrast are the voters putting Hillary over the top.*** Trump was leading until Khizr Khan baited him and White women decisively sided with the hectoring non-White Muslim over the White man who "forgot his place." White professional women, in marked contrast with White working class men and women, and to a lesser extent White professional men, *WANT* a cringing caste system with themselves as part of the junior spoils system. And this includes the entire panoply of the corrupt cronyist caste system:

    *No Nationalism (for White countries at least).
    *BDS in both Bush Derangement Syndrome and Boycott Divest whatever with Israel.
    *A corrupt, mostly intermarried and related cronyist system that repudiates meritocracy in practice while assuring its benefactors that meritocracy indeed forms their caste.
    *Mass Third World immigration to provide clients for Nice White Ladies to baby sit, agitate for, and otherwise preen importantly instead of being just ordinary Professional Women pushing meaningless paper around.

    Iraq, Afghanistan, drone-a-terrorist, hug-a-Muslim, these were all the results of a deeply constrained system driven by Nice White Ladies and their spoils interests, delusional thinking that higher status will attract an Uber-Alpha man, delayed marriage after the carousel makes any "settling" for a beta male a source of rage not comfort and a general hatred of their White male professional peers for being both workplace rivals and not the sexy bad boys the culture promised them was their professional accomplishment reward.

    The Media is all in for Hillary! What makes you think they listen to Billy Kristol when they reject even his limited pc-bounded use of force? White men ignore the media and vice versa; TV has been all female/gay since the early 1980s (I even blogged about it, and the core methodology of checking the Wikipedia fall schedule and assigning each show a male or female hour/half hour per day and then adding up for the week is reproducable and no doubt subject to methodology improvement).

    I was singularly unimpressed by Kevin McDonald's "analysis" of "its the Jewwwwwwws! What was the question" avoiding the elephant in the room -- why White College Educated women vote so differently than EVERY OTHER WHITE DEMO.

    Heartiste alone seems to have grasped the situation -- he reports that some PUA pioneer is helping Hillary! and the Khizr Khan episode seems to have triggered a free-fall in Trump's until then lead among White College Women (but not any other demographic group).

    Structurally the only solution is to reduce the White Professional cohort as much as possible by social judo -- full SJW demanding White Professional Women "check their privilege" and be replaced ... by if possible a Muslima, if not at least by a Muslim or Black or Hispanic. As long as White Professional Women pay no personal cost of being fired for the coalition of the diverse they will happily engage in White Male purges to get a chance to move up one rung on the ladder. Kick them off the ladder entirely for being a White woman --

    You have a Trump voter.

    ***Yes I know, it was Jerry Seinfeld and Howard Stern's evil Jewish mind-rays "turning" otherwise pure and pro-White Male Professional White women into Hillary voters, because of the centuries old Jewish Plot to turn every place Jews live into one filled with Muslims who love Jews so much.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @RadicalCenter, @iSteveFan, @iSteveFan

    Why do you think that Jews are up to six percent of the us population? Closer to two and a half or three percent maximum and falling slowly as the surge of Mexicans reduces everyone else’s share of the populations of California, Texas, and nationally.

  132. @Eric Novak
    @South Texas Guy

    Gimme a break. Trump is supported by Drudge. That's all any candidate needs-1.5 billion page views per month.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Fantastic if drudge is supporting trump, though I’ve never visited his site or cared what he has to say.

    You’re right that such support should help trump meaningfully.

    But our youngest voters, who presumably spend the most time online and get more “news” and commentary online than from tv and print sources, favor Clinton strongly, don’t they? I don’t understand it, but it seems to be a fact.

  133. @South Texas Guy
    @Johan Schmidt

    Alternative media still only gets a thimblefull of viewers compared to the buckets of viewers that network news, local new TV news and newspapers get, so that whole idea of him being balanced by the internet is dead in the water.
    BTW, I'm thinking Trump made the basic mistake that McCain did, thinking that because he was the media darling (for various, but well known reasons), he'd continue to be one during the general election.
    I forget who the lefty journo was who said it a few years back, but I give him points for honesty, when he said that during a presidential election, it amounts to about an extra five points for democrats.

    Replies: @Former Darfur

    Hillary is a “virtual incumbent”, and as such, gets much of the general five point advantage incumbents tend to get with White voters. As Pierce correctly stated, whites are generally authoritarian, in that we tend to support rather than oppose authority instinctively;this is a reason we can have successful civilizations.

    Bill Clinton, GWB and BHO were all re-elected for a second term despite serious questions about their suitability in the mind of all even remotely thinking observers. FDR got a demented four terms. Truman and LBJ were re-elected after a VP assumption of power. Without getting into the specifics, it’s clear Presidents tend to be re-elected more often than not. They have to screw up fairly badly to lose.

    Trump is an outlier among challengers in that he has tremendous name recognition and low information voters in general tend to know him very well due to his reality TV and WWE adventures. Either way this is going to be an interesting race, only not in the ways such elections sometimes are.

    I don’t think the MSM has ever been as onesided and blatantly corrupt as in this election. Hillary’s negatives are so extreme-obvious federal offenses, a cemetery full of mysterious deaths in her wake, extreme likelihood of health problems-that the ability of the MSM to discuss anything else would be nonexistent in any other case. The small percentage of thinking whites are being disabused of respect for this system at greater and greater rates.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Former Darfur


    I don’t think the MSM has ever been as onesided and blatantly corrupt as in this election. Hillary’s negatives are so extreme-obvious federal offenses, a cemetery full of mysterious deaths in her wake, extreme likelihood of health problems-that the ability of the MSM to discuss anything else would be nonexistent in any other case.
     
    Exactly, the media approach is "All Trump, all-the-time" so as to make Hillary appear as non-scary and inoffensive as possible by comparison. If a tree falls in the wood and no one hears it...

    Replies: @iSteveFan

  134. @RadicalCenter
    @Corvinus

    Do believe that a Mexican majority in California and Texas will grant preferences in hiring, Univision admission, contacting, etc., to non-Hispanic whites? What is the reason or precedent for this expectation as to the fairmindedness of Mexicans?

    Let's keep in mind that when whites are a declining minority of those States (and others), a majority of the judges, police, prosecutors, "civil rights" bureaucracy, and political "representatives" themselves Bing Spanish-speaking Mexicans or part-Mexicans by then.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Unz, please please offer an edit function already.

  135. @Bill
    @Jack D


    WE created Sylville.
     
    If by "we," you mean WASP elites and Jews, then yes.

    Black men were never an ideal industrial workforce, but back in the day industrialists used to put up with them because they had no choice.
     
    Well, no. Their other choice was to pay the Polacks, Mics, Archie Bunkers, and Dagos more. They didn't want to do that, so black sharecroppers it was.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Alden, @Former Darfur

    For some production positions blacks-average blacks-actually do pretty well. They can do repetitive unskilled or semiskilled tasks without the boredom issues that impact higher-IQ groups and seem to have greater resistance to repetitive stress injuries such as carpal tunnel syndrome on average. Automotive assembly is one of these, at least in certain positions on the line, so long as suitable (firm, consistent and thorough) supervision is provided they do fine.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Former Darfur

    The US military has had reasonable success with blacks. They recruit from the smarter end of the population , they break down the tasks and train so that people are specialized to do one thing and blacks respond well to the structured setting. The ranks are integrated so that blacks have both black and white role models and the role models are not thugs. It's not perfect - when they send blacks overseas they sometimes rape locals and create ill will, etc. but on the whole they do better with blacks than many of the other parts of American society.

    If the American education establishment was not so leftist, I think running ghetto schools like military academies might be more successful than some other approaches. They shipped off the Donald to military academy when he was 13 because he was acting up.

  136. @Jefferson
    @Jack D

    "Although Israel is actually much more multi-cultural than American rightists understand,"

    Israel is nowhere near as ethnically homogeneous as Mainland China and Japan. 26 percent of Israel'population is Non Jewish and that percentage just keeps growing as Arab Muslims breed like cockroaches.

    China is 92 percent ethnically Han and Japan is 98 percent ethnically Japanese.

    Israel could only dream of being an over 90 percent Jewish nation.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @syonredux

    Israel is nowhere near as ethnically homogeneous as Mainland China and Japan. 26 percent of Israel’population is Non Jewish and that percentage just keeps growing as Arab Muslims breed like cockroaches.

    Dunno. My understanding is that the Jews have won the battle of the cradle in Israel….

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @syonredux

    "Dunno. My understanding is that the Jews have won the battle of the cradle in Israel…."

    Arab Muslims are projected to become the majority of Israel's population in a few decades.
    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/.premium-1.531104

    This is Israel's future, cue dark sinister Arabic music.
    https://youtu.be/lAq8d9NDsT0

    Replies: @syonredux

  137. @Anonymous
    Steve, do you have any proof that welfare policy changes in the 70s attracted a mass immigration of blacks to Wisconsin?

    Taking a quick look at the data, the black proportion of the population of WI had been increasing for decades prior to these changes.

    Replies: @Alden, @The Practical Conservative

    You have to look at birth rates. I took a look at higher-order births in Wisconsin for the last few years (2007-2014), and there is some evidence even working from recent data of a small hard core of multigenerational, multiparous black single mothers.

  138. @Jefferson
    @syonredux

    "I’m sorry, but this is a very silly statement."

    Why is that? If statistics ever came out about the educational gap between Blacks and Jews, you know it would be jaw droppingly wide.

    There is a reason why Jews are vastly overrepresented among career fields which require having a high IQ. For example you know damn well that more than 2 percent of America's surgeons are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America's engineers are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America's scientists are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America's tech entrepreneurs are Jewish and so on.

    Blacks don't represent 13 percent of any of those career fields. Negro success pales in comparison to Jewish success.

    Replies: @Foreign Expert, @RadicalCenter, @syonredux, @Bill

    “I’m sorry, but this is a very silly statement.”

    Why is that? If statistics ever came out about the educational gap between Blacks and Jews, you know it would be jaw droppingly wide.

    Yeah, but the gap between Blacks and all Whites (Ashkenazis, Germans, Anglo-Saxons, etc) is huge.Heck, it’s even pretty damn big when Blacks are compared to the Scots-Irish.

    Hence, I’m not sure why you think that it’s odd that Wisconsin, which is full of high-performing Japhetic Whites, should have a particularly large White-Black gap.

  139. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @syonredux

    So you basically made his point about WI having fewer Jewish-Americans in the state when compared to other states. Basically a mea culpa.

    Replies: @syonredux

    So you basically made his point about WI having fewer Jewish-Americans in the state when compared to other states. Basically a mea culpa.

    No, I explained why he shouldn’t be surprised that Wisconsin (a state with a small Jewish population) has such a large Black-White gap.

    The equation is simple: extremely dysfunctional Blacks + high-performing Japhetic Whites= A bigger than normal Black-White gap.

  140. @Yojimbo/zatoichi
    @syonredux

    And, why exactly is that?

    Replies: @syonredux

    And, why exactly is that?

    Because, as Steve noted, Wisconsin has a lot of very dysfunctional Blacks. Combine that with high-performing Japhetic Whites, and you get a bigger than normal Black-White gap

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @syonredux

    "Because, as Steve noted, Wisconsin has a lot of very dysfunctional Blacks."

    Which Midwestern state doesn't? Even Iowa has gangs of Negroes terrorizing Whites at the state's county fair.
    https://youtu.be/-kT9zNrjXag

    Replies: @syonredux

    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @syonredux

    The SPECIFIC question he mentioned which you appear to ignore both times is that WI has a very small Jewish-American population (which in point of fact it does, relative to the rest of those US states where there are higher concentrations of Jewish-Americans, say in CA or NY). For the most part, the Germans and Poles that migrated to WI during the mid 19th century tended to be overwhelmingly Protestant and Catholic. In other words, the Jewish diaspora that reached its zenith during the Ellis Island generations came much later and even then, the Jewish peoples did not tend to migrate at all to places such as WI (the way they did tend to remain in New York, for instance).

    Also, for the most part, the entire US as a whole has a lot of dysfunctional blacks. That BLM has only recently taken its road show to Milwaukee over the past week only serves to highlight what the rest of the US has been experiencing since Ferguson: blacks do tend to behave quite badly, especially as the weather heats up outside during the summer months.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @syonredux, @syonredux

  141. @Whiskey
    @Matra

    One of the frustrating things about much of the Alt-right is their pedestalization and idealization of Professional White women. I give you the Business Insider Aug 8 story on the Monmouth University polls:

    If the election were today and only White men with College degrees voted, Trump would win by 11 points. If only White men without College voted, he'd win by 31 points. If only White women without College voted he'd win by 17 points.

    If only College Degree holding White women voted, HILLARY would win by 3o points.

    Romney took White men without College by 31 points, duplicating Trumps margin on Aug 8. He took White men with College by 21 points, better than Trump by 10 points, and White women without College by 20 points, very similar to what Trump did on Aug 8.

    Romney took White Women with College degrees narrowly by 6 points.

    Neocons are a tiny portion of the population, and Jews not much larger at around 6% if that. Many Jews are hard-core liberal Bernie-ites and endorse a sloppy anti-Israel nationalism while like Bernie buying a third house on Cape Cod for $700K.

    White professional women by contrast are the voters putting Hillary over the top.*** Trump was leading until Khizr Khan baited him and White women decisively sided with the hectoring non-White Muslim over the White man who "forgot his place." White professional women, in marked contrast with White working class men and women, and to a lesser extent White professional men, *WANT* a cringing caste system with themselves as part of the junior spoils system. And this includes the entire panoply of the corrupt cronyist caste system:

    *No Nationalism (for White countries at least).
    *BDS in both Bush Derangement Syndrome and Boycott Divest whatever with Israel.
    *A corrupt, mostly intermarried and related cronyist system that repudiates meritocracy in practice while assuring its benefactors that meritocracy indeed forms their caste.
    *Mass Third World immigration to provide clients for Nice White Ladies to baby sit, agitate for, and otherwise preen importantly instead of being just ordinary Professional Women pushing meaningless paper around.

    Iraq, Afghanistan, drone-a-terrorist, hug-a-Muslim, these were all the results of a deeply constrained system driven by Nice White Ladies and their spoils interests, delusional thinking that higher status will attract an Uber-Alpha man, delayed marriage after the carousel makes any "settling" for a beta male a source of rage not comfort and a general hatred of their White male professional peers for being both workplace rivals and not the sexy bad boys the culture promised them was their professional accomplishment reward.

    The Media is all in for Hillary! What makes you think they listen to Billy Kristol when they reject even his limited pc-bounded use of force? White men ignore the media and vice versa; TV has been all female/gay since the early 1980s (I even blogged about it, and the core methodology of checking the Wikipedia fall schedule and assigning each show a male or female hour/half hour per day and then adding up for the week is reproducable and no doubt subject to methodology improvement).

    I was singularly unimpressed by Kevin McDonald's "analysis" of "its the Jewwwwwwws! What was the question" avoiding the elephant in the room -- why White College Educated women vote so differently than EVERY OTHER WHITE DEMO.

    Heartiste alone seems to have grasped the situation -- he reports that some PUA pioneer is helping Hillary! and the Khizr Khan episode seems to have triggered a free-fall in Trump's until then lead among White College Women (but not any other demographic group).

    Structurally the only solution is to reduce the White Professional cohort as much as possible by social judo -- full SJW demanding White Professional Women "check their privilege" and be replaced ... by if possible a Muslima, if not at least by a Muslim or Black or Hispanic. As long as White Professional Women pay no personal cost of being fired for the coalition of the diverse they will happily engage in White Male purges to get a chance to move up one rung on the ladder. Kick them off the ladder entirely for being a White woman --

    You have a Trump voter.

    ***Yes I know, it was Jerry Seinfeld and Howard Stern's evil Jewish mind-rays "turning" otherwise pure and pro-White Male Professional White women into Hillary voters, because of the centuries old Jewish Plot to turn every place Jews live into one filled with Muslims who love Jews so much.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @RadicalCenter, @iSteveFan, @iSteveFan

    Neocons are a tiny portion of the population, and Jews not much larger at around 6% if that.

    What percentage of all donated money to democrat, and even GOP, campaigns is from Jewish donors?

  142. @Jack D
    @Matra

    Translation of your translation: I'm changing the subject because I don't want to answer your question honestly.

    I repeat - why should Netanyahu express ANY opinion on this subject? I'm pretty sure that if he did, either way, whoever in the West disagreed with him would hate him and Israel even more than they already do (I'm sure you would if he came out in favor of globalism), so what does he have to gain by interfering in the internal politics of other countries? Of course you would love to have more people agreeing with YOUR particular pet peeves - the more the merrier, but the right thing for him to do (for all leaders to do) is to stay the hell out of the internal politics of other people's countries. Although Israel is actually much more multi-cultural than American rightists understand, Netanyahu is pretty conservative and the best he can do is run his own country in a proper way so that others can learn by his example, not from meaningless endorsements.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Mr. Anon, @iSteveFan

    Although Israel is actually much more multi-cultural than American rightists understand,

    Could you elaborate on that statement?

  143. @Whiskey
    One of the other frustrating things about the Alt-Right is a blindness to the power of the media. Steve is one example of this, in that he's expecting the media to do the right thing or even care about the Milwaukee anti White riots and White (women) being beaten for being White.

    The media neither cares nor wants White male viewers. Why would they, when Women make or influence 85% of consumer purchases. White male oriented commercials stand out -- only the fast food chains Carl's Jr. and Jack-in-the-Box make what amounts to male-oriented commercials.

    The rest of the media is a stew of White professional female, and Black/Hispanic/Muslim toxic idiocy, that goes over very well with their target audience. Look at ESPN -- it lost from 2011 to 2016 (start of the year) 10 million subscribers, from 100 million to 90 million.

    Does ESPN care? Of course not, they will continue to be MSNBC with sports, as Ed Driscoll called them, and go full SJW, "Caitlyn" Jenner, etc. because they are made up of people who spent their entire professional lives making infotainment catering the prejudices and likes of Professional White women. Meanwhile Disney make so much money off Animated Princess movies, Marvel/Star Wars action figures, and rides that they can subsidize money losing stuff catering to White Professional women for decades to come.

    Unless the Alt-Right gets its act together and helps the Bernie types legalize piracy. The number one thing to do to destroy the TV infotainment business is make entirely legal, by grass roots campaigning, piracy and torrent sites and the like. Infotainment has been able to make a lot of money and cross-subsidize its anti-White male stuff by having such a high margin on female infotainment. If piracy is legal and safe, "for the people," then such a strategy becomes unsustainable -- to keep the money flowing in for Entertainment expenses: hookers, male prostitutes, drugs, rehab treatments, etc. Entertainment people would have to appeal to ...

    White men.

    But that won't happen without a solid understanding of the economic underpinnings of the current system and a sustained, years-long effort to destroy that foundation.

    There is a reason every White First World nation is headed by a corrupt, crony-ist, incompetent and highly feminine leadership class. And why those without mass female consumerism are largely absent that phenomena: Eastern Europe, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan.

    White Professional women love anti-nationalist, semi-feudal, cronyist, corrupt, incompetent, drama-ridden, crisis mode government that handwrings over reality intruding into fantasy like they love Game of Thrones or the Good Wife. Its why the West is overrun by aging, sick, incompetent relatives of past leaders like Hillary, or the incompetent, effeminate son of a former leader (Trudeau) or the aging spinster anti-nationalist driven by tingles like Merkel. And why Japan for better or worse is not.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Lagertha

    And why those without mass female consumerism are largely absent that phenomena: Eastern Europe, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan.

    Is that the only common thread among those nations?

  144. iSteveFan says:
    @Whiskey
    @Matra

    One of the frustrating things about much of the Alt-right is their pedestalization and idealization of Professional White women. I give you the Business Insider Aug 8 story on the Monmouth University polls:

    If the election were today and only White men with College degrees voted, Trump would win by 11 points. If only White men without College voted, he'd win by 31 points. If only White women without College voted he'd win by 17 points.

    If only College Degree holding White women voted, HILLARY would win by 3o points.

    Romney took White men without College by 31 points, duplicating Trumps margin on Aug 8. He took White men with College by 21 points, better than Trump by 10 points, and White women without College by 20 points, very similar to what Trump did on Aug 8.

    Romney took White Women with College degrees narrowly by 6 points.

    Neocons are a tiny portion of the population, and Jews not much larger at around 6% if that. Many Jews are hard-core liberal Bernie-ites and endorse a sloppy anti-Israel nationalism while like Bernie buying a third house on Cape Cod for $700K.

    White professional women by contrast are the voters putting Hillary over the top.*** Trump was leading until Khizr Khan baited him and White women decisively sided with the hectoring non-White Muslim over the White man who "forgot his place." White professional women, in marked contrast with White working class men and women, and to a lesser extent White professional men, *WANT* a cringing caste system with themselves as part of the junior spoils system. And this includes the entire panoply of the corrupt cronyist caste system:

    *No Nationalism (for White countries at least).
    *BDS in both Bush Derangement Syndrome and Boycott Divest whatever with Israel.
    *A corrupt, mostly intermarried and related cronyist system that repudiates meritocracy in practice while assuring its benefactors that meritocracy indeed forms their caste.
    *Mass Third World immigration to provide clients for Nice White Ladies to baby sit, agitate for, and otherwise preen importantly instead of being just ordinary Professional Women pushing meaningless paper around.

    Iraq, Afghanistan, drone-a-terrorist, hug-a-Muslim, these were all the results of a deeply constrained system driven by Nice White Ladies and their spoils interests, delusional thinking that higher status will attract an Uber-Alpha man, delayed marriage after the carousel makes any "settling" for a beta male a source of rage not comfort and a general hatred of their White male professional peers for being both workplace rivals and not the sexy bad boys the culture promised them was their professional accomplishment reward.

    The Media is all in for Hillary! What makes you think they listen to Billy Kristol when they reject even his limited pc-bounded use of force? White men ignore the media and vice versa; TV has been all female/gay since the early 1980s (I even blogged about it, and the core methodology of checking the Wikipedia fall schedule and assigning each show a male or female hour/half hour per day and then adding up for the week is reproducable and no doubt subject to methodology improvement).

    I was singularly unimpressed by Kevin McDonald's "analysis" of "its the Jewwwwwwws! What was the question" avoiding the elephant in the room -- why White College Educated women vote so differently than EVERY OTHER WHITE DEMO.

    Heartiste alone seems to have grasped the situation -- he reports that some PUA pioneer is helping Hillary! and the Khizr Khan episode seems to have triggered a free-fall in Trump's until then lead among White College Women (but not any other demographic group).

    Structurally the only solution is to reduce the White Professional cohort as much as possible by social judo -- full SJW demanding White Professional Women "check their privilege" and be replaced ... by if possible a Muslima, if not at least by a Muslim or Black or Hispanic. As long as White Professional Women pay no personal cost of being fired for the coalition of the diverse they will happily engage in White Male purges to get a chance to move up one rung on the ladder. Kick them off the ladder entirely for being a White woman --

    You have a Trump voter.

    ***Yes I know, it was Jerry Seinfeld and Howard Stern's evil Jewish mind-rays "turning" otherwise pure and pro-White Male Professional White women into Hillary voters, because of the centuries old Jewish Plot to turn every place Jews live into one filled with Muslims who love Jews so much.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @RadicalCenter, @iSteveFan, @iSteveFan

    You jump on people who claim Jews exert too much influence by citing their small percentage. But then you jump on white women. Of course now you are excusing most white women and only focusing on ‘professional’ white women. This appears to represent a major concession from you.

    Well how many white professional women are there? If you go by all white women with a 4- year degree, you would probably have about 18 percent of white women with a 4 year degree or higher. But most professionals probably have a higher degree. So that reduces it down to about 8 percent of white women who have an advanced degree.

    Admittedly white professional women probably form a larger cohort than Jews. But they are by no means a plurality, and I doubt they even come close to the campaign donations that Jews make.

    As for their commitment to the multicult you cite, won’t they lose their jobs if they don’t support it? Isn’t it the professionals who run the greatest risk of social shunning and ostracization if they deviate from the narrative?

  145. @Jefferson
    "And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C."

    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Gross Terry, @SMK, @syonredux, @syonredux, @syonredux, @Bill, @Mike Zwick, @Stan Adams, @Jay Fink, @Olorin

    I grew up in a Northshore suburb of Milwaukee (Fox Point). Between my family, neighbors, parent’s friends, and schoolmates I was actually under the impression as a child that Jews were the majority of the population!

    I remember begging my mom to let me go to the local YMCA Camp Minikani instead of the Jewish camp everyone I knew was going to. I wanted to do my part to help the Christian minority I thought. “Christian camp, Christian camp” I would chant until my mother finally agreed. I had a very fun time there in the Summer of 1979 and have fond memories of it. Yet that camp did have some actual Christian rituals and ceremonies which freaked me out!

  146. @Jefferson
    "And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C."

    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin, so I am surprised it has the widest educational gap between Blacks and Whites among all the 50 states.

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @Gross Terry, @SMK, @syonredux, @syonredux, @syonredux, @Bill, @Mike Zwick, @Stan Adams, @Jay Fink, @Olorin

    There are not that many Jews in Wisconsin,

    Hate to bust your psychometric bubble, but Wisconsin’s white population includes in the majority the smartest white people on the planet–Northern/NW Europeans.

    We’re not allowed to observe that, since “white” IQ is always an amalgam of everybody from Finns and Germans to Balkans, North Africans, and Arabs.

    On the how many Jews issue, I’ll say more presently.

  147. How come nobody points out trumps fake medical letter?

  148. FWIW, from 2013:

    Homeless Chicago family finds living on the street easier north of the border

    Angelisa Bullock’s clan of 10, including 3 grandkids age 2 or younger, finds welcoming reception in Madison, Wis., along with an undercurrent of resentment

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-10-05/news/ct-met-homeless-family-20131005_1_madison-family-shelters

    Bullock, 47, spent most of her life in some of Chicago’s roughest neighborhoods before moving to Wisconsin about four weeks ago with her three daughters, their two boyfriends and their children, ages 9, 2, 1 and 5 months.

    Read how Chicago-born (((Mayor Paul Soglin))) acted as their chauffeur. Soggy arrived like many NYC and Chicago Jews in Madison in the 1960s as college students and never left.

    And note the hasty brief mention of someone taking the “boyfriends” to the public library “to fill out job applications.” While the womenfolk settle in to suck up public bling–i.e., get married to taxpayers.

  149. @Jack D
    @avraham

    Maybe I'm thick headed but what is the difference between self-determination and nationalism? Isn't the "self" in self-determination the collective "self" of a nation?

    Nationalism works OK if you can get everyone to agree that they belong to a really big broadly defined "nation" like "American". But there is a lingering tendency for people to define themselves ever more locally (Catalans and not Spaniards) . And if the Catalans get their own country, there are probably sub-groups within Catalonia that would like their OWN self-determination - maybe there should be a North Catalonia and a South Catalonia (and then a SE Catalonia and SW Catalonia, etc.). And what do you do with a city that is half Castilian and half Catalan - whose self-determination counts? Germany used to be dotted with a hundred little principalities with "self-determination" and it was impossible (for better or for worse) to get anything done on a grand scale (either build a national transportation network OR invade the neighbors) until they all got together into one big country.

    Replies: @NC, @Big Bill

    Nationalism is love of your nation because it’s strong or has the best technology or whatever. Patriotism is more like love of the language, traditions and so on of the group and land you happen to belong to. A proud Bavarian is a patriot whereas an enthusiastic German is a nationalist. There’s some overlap but in general the two are counteracting forces because there are advantages and disadvantages to both in terms of running a nation. Where patriotism generally talks about independance, freedom and self determination as with Ireland last century, nationalism is the drive for security and strength as in Italy and Germany in the 19th century. The Slovaks broke from the Czechs because there are real if not giant differences between the two. Slovakia doesnt continue to splinter because it would be a disadvantage to be any smaller and already there are Slovaks who think Slovakia is too small and independance was a mistake.

  150. @Mr. Anon
    @avraham

    "I grieved me when I saw the country being flooded by blacks."

    Really? You were alive in the 18th century? Pleased to make your aquaintance, Monsieur le Comte de Saint Germain.

    "The people that brought in the blacks were not Jewish; they were Southern Businessmen. And the people that flooded the country with Muslims were not Jewish. The Jews are simply the most convenient scapegoat for what White Anglo Saxon Protestants did to themselves."

    You mean to say that there were no Jews who owned or traded slaves? None?

    Emmanuel Cellar drafted the 1965 immigration law, after laboring for 40 years in Congress to change american immigration policy into what it is today. Was he anglo-saxon? David Gelbaum gave the Sierra Club $100 million in exchange for them dropping any opposition to immigration. Is he anglo-saxon? Some rather simple google searches of organizations that promote immigration would turn up numerous other correlations.

    Replies: @avraham

    I see your point. I also noticed Jewish people involved in civil rights movements and such things that seemed ignore the fact that they were hurting the white working people (the basic WASP backbone and strength of the USA). I had no idea why the human consequences of such actions were ignored and I still don’t. But I simply meant to bring attention that there are Jews that did not and do not agree. These people are usually not taken as spokesmen for Jews as group. These people are ignored.

  151. @avraham
    @Wilkey

    This is the first comment that accurately describes my feelings. I grieved me when I saw the country being flooded by blacks. Then it grieved me even more when I saw it being overrun by Muslims. Then the last straw was to see the Jews being blamed for it all. The people that brought in the blacks were not Jewish; they were Southern Businessmen. And the people that flooded the country with Muslims were not Jewish. The Jews are simply the most convenient scapegoat for what White Anglo Saxon Protestants did to themselves.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Hippopotamusdrome, @Bleuteaux

    It’s eccentric fringe groups nobody supports like the ADL that give some a negative impression.

    Welcoming the Stranger: ADL’s Commitment to Protecting Refugees

    In the aftermath of the tragic attacks in Paris, Belgium, Jakarta, Egypt and other places, however, too often the call has been to reject refugees.

    A bill pending now in Congress would make it much harder for refugees fleeing extreme violence to find safety and a new home in the United States. Learn more about the bill and urge your representative to save America’s refugee resettlement programs today!

    ADL Joins Coalition Press Conference to Invite MD Gov. Larry Hogan to Meet Syrian Refugees and Reconsider His Opposition to Accepting Them

    Coming to America: A Muslim Family’s Story

    Text and photographs depict the joys and hardships experienced by a Muslim family that immigrates to New York City from Egypt.

    Anti-Muslim Bigotry

    Through the Interfaith Coalition on Mosques (ICOM) we assist Muslim communities who are being denied permission to build mosques in their neighborhoods.

    A Wave of Ugly Rhetoric Targeting Muslim Immigrants

    Proclaiming an invasion

    Anti-immigrant bloggers, as well as anti-Muslim bigots, warn that there is a “Muslim invasion” that will result in Muslims being the dominant religious group in the U.S.

    After Terrorist Attacks, Anti-immigrant Activists Attack Muslim Immigration

    Geert Wilders’ Anti-Muslim Agenda

    Wilders has described Muslims as a threat to European democracies, has advocated for banning immigration to Holland from Muslim-majority countries

    The Freedom Party (PVV), which Wilders heads, reached its pinnacle in 2010. In that year, it captured 15 percent of the vote and 24 seats in the Dutch parliament. Wilders’ ascent was closely linked to his party’s focus on immigration and Islam.

    The following year he formed the PVV in order advance his idea for a temporary moratorium on immigration from Turkey and Morocco.

  152. @syonredux
    @Jefferson


    Israel is nowhere near as ethnically homogeneous as Mainland China and Japan. 26 percent of Israel’population is Non Jewish and that percentage just keeps growing as Arab Muslims breed like cockroaches.
     
    Dunno. My understanding is that the Jews have won the battle of the cradle in Israel....

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “Dunno. My understanding is that the Jews have won the battle of the cradle in Israel….”

    Arab Muslims are projected to become the majority of Israel’s population in a few decades.
    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/.premium-1.531104

    This is Israel’s future, cue dark sinister Arabic music.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Jefferson


    Arab Muslims are projected to become the majority of Israel’s population in a few decades.

     

    MMM, maybe the Israeli Jews didn't close that gap fast enough?

    Overall, Israel’s government and society have done an impressive job showing that a determined polity can alter fertility rates in its own favor. It was long said that the Jewish state was doomed by the much higher total fertility of Israeli Muslims, who as recently as 2000 were having babies at a rate of 4.57 per lifetime compared to only 2.67 for Israeli Jews. How could anyone possibly close that gap?

    Yet by 2011, the Muslim TFR had fallen to 3.51, while the Jewish TFR grew to 2.98.
     
    http://takimag.com/article/israels_fertility_policy_bears_fruit_steve_sailer/print#axzz4Hho7k8YO


    Perhaps they can bring in some more half-and-quarter Jews from Russia and Ukraine?

    Replies: @Jack D

  153. @syonredux
    @Yojimbo/zatoichi


    And, why exactly is that?
     
    Because, as Steve noted, Wisconsin has a lot of very dysfunctional Blacks. Combine that with high-performing Japhetic Whites, and you get a bigger than normal Black-White gap

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    “Because, as Steve noted, Wisconsin has a lot of very dysfunctional Blacks.”

    Which Midwestern state doesn’t? Even Iowa has gangs of Negroes terrorizing Whites at the state’s county fair.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Jefferson


    “Because, as Steve noted, Wisconsin has a lot of very dysfunctional Blacks.”

    Which Midwestern state doesn’t? Even Iowa has gangs of Negroes terrorizing Whites at the state’s county fair.

     

    Well, here's what Steve had to say on the matter:

    For instance, that Wisconsin blacks usually score the lowest in the nation on the federal National Assessment of Educational Progress tests of public school students. And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C.

    Moreover, the black-white imprisonment ratio in Wisconsin is an extraordinarily high 11.5 to 1. That’s the second-highest of the 50 states, behind only New Jersey (12.2 to 1) and just ahead of Iowa (11.1), Minnesota (11.0), and Vermont (10.5).

    In contrast, the most equal black-white incarceration ratio is in Hawaii (2.4), where most blacks are either in the military or are Barack Obama-like exotics, followed by Southern states such as Mississippi (3.0), Georgia (3.2), Alabama (3.3), and Kentucky (3.3).

    And blacks in Wisconsin are 9.0 times more likely than the overall population to use welfare, the worst ratio in the country.
     
    http://takimag.com/article/whats_the_matter_with_wisconsin_steve_sailer/print#i
  154. @syonredux
    @Yojimbo/zatoichi


    And, why exactly is that?
     
    Because, as Steve noted, Wisconsin has a lot of very dysfunctional Blacks. Combine that with high-performing Japhetic Whites, and you get a bigger than normal Black-White gap

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    The SPECIFIC question he mentioned which you appear to ignore both times is that WI has a very small Jewish-American population (which in point of fact it does, relative to the rest of those US states where there are higher concentrations of Jewish-Americans, say in CA or NY). For the most part, the Germans and Poles that migrated to WI during the mid 19th century tended to be overwhelmingly Protestant and Catholic. In other words, the Jewish diaspora that reached its zenith during the Ellis Island generations came much later and even then, the Jewish peoples did not tend to migrate at all to places such as WI (the way they did tend to remain in New York, for instance).

    Also, for the most part, the entire US as a whole has a lot of dysfunctional blacks. That BLM has only recently taken its road show to Milwaukee over the past week only serves to highlight what the rest of the US has been experiencing since Ferguson: blacks do tend to behave quite badly, especially as the weather heats up outside during the summer months.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    A lot of Chicago Jews moved to Southern California, so I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Wisconsin Jews did too. For example, screenwriter Ben Hecht was born in New York, moved to Chicago as a child, then grew up in Racine, WI, and eventually wound up in Hollywood because, as a famous telegram he received from Herman Mankiewicz noted, "You only competition is idiots."

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @syonredux
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi


    The SPECIFIC question he mentioned which you appear to ignore both times is that WI has a very small Jewish-American population (which in point of fact it does, relative to the rest of those US states where there are higher concentrations of Jewish-Americans, say in CA or NY).
     
    Jefferson's point was that he finds it odd that a state with a low percentage of Jews should have such a large Black-White gap.

    My point is that it isn't odd at all. Combine very dysfunctional Blacks with high-functioning Japhetic Whites, and you will see a very large Black-White Gap:


    *


    For instance, that Wisconsin blacks usually score the lowest in the nation on the federal National Assessment of Educational Progress tests of public school students. And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C.

    Moreover, the black-white imprisonment ratio in Wisconsin is an extraordinarily high 11.5 to 1. That’s the second-highest of the 50 states, behind only New Jersey (12.2 to 1) and just ahead of Iowa (11.1), Minnesota (11.0), and Vermont (10.5).

    In contrast, the most equal black-white incarceration ratio is in Hawaii (2.4), where most blacks are either in the military or are Barack Obama-like exotics, followed by Southern states such as Mississippi (3.0), Georgia (3.2), Alabama (3.3), and Kentucky (3.3).


    And blacks in Wisconsin are 9.0 times more likely than the overall population to use welfare, the worst ratio in the country.

     

    http://takimag.com/article/whats_the_matter_with_wisconsin_steve_sailer/print#ixzz4HZEzwCiv
    , @syonredux
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Since I hate waiting


    The SPECIFIC question he mentioned which you appear to ignore both times is that WI has a very small Jewish-American population (which in point of fact it does, relative to the rest of those US states where there are higher concentrations of Jewish-Americans, say in CA or NY).
     
    Jefferson’s point was that he finds it odd that a state with a low percentage of Jews should have such a large Black-White gap.

    My point is that it isn’t odd at all. Combine very dysfunctional Blacks with high-functioning Japhetic Whites, and you will see a very large Black-White Gap:

    *

    For instance, that Wisconsin blacks usually score the lowest in the nation on the federal National Assessment of Educational Progress tests of public school students. And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C.

    Moreover, the black-white imprisonment ratio in Wisconsin is an extraordinarily high 11.5 to 1. That’s the second-highest of the 50 states, behind only New Jersey (12.2 to 1) and just ahead of Iowa (11.1), Minnesota (11.0), and Vermont (10.5).

    In contrast, the most equal black-white incarceration ratio is in Hawaii (2.4), where most blacks are either in the military or are Barack Obama-like exotics, followed by Southern states such as Mississippi (3.0), Georgia (3.2), Alabama (3.3), and Kentucky (3.3).

    And blacks in Wisconsin are 9.0 times more likely than the overall population to use welfare, the worst ratio in the country.

     

    http://takimag.com/article/whats_the_matter_with_wisconsin_steve_sailer/print#i

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

  155. Side note, and perhaps already mentioned: With BLM and all the unpleasantness, perhaps this could be the tipping point to help put WI into Trump’s camp for the electoral college. Nice decent Midwestern whites don’t particularly like it when their cities are burned to the ground, stuff stolen, etc. but since they’re so gosh darn nice, they’ll just quietly express it in a more passive-aggressive manner–namely, at the ballot box in November.

  156. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @syonredux

    The SPECIFIC question he mentioned which you appear to ignore both times is that WI has a very small Jewish-American population (which in point of fact it does, relative to the rest of those US states where there are higher concentrations of Jewish-Americans, say in CA or NY). For the most part, the Germans and Poles that migrated to WI during the mid 19th century tended to be overwhelmingly Protestant and Catholic. In other words, the Jewish diaspora that reached its zenith during the Ellis Island generations came much later and even then, the Jewish peoples did not tend to migrate at all to places such as WI (the way they did tend to remain in New York, for instance).

    Also, for the most part, the entire US as a whole has a lot of dysfunctional blacks. That BLM has only recently taken its road show to Milwaukee over the past week only serves to highlight what the rest of the US has been experiencing since Ferguson: blacks do tend to behave quite badly, especially as the weather heats up outside during the summer months.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @syonredux, @syonredux

    A lot of Chicago Jews moved to Southern California, so I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of Wisconsin Jews did too. For example, screenwriter Ben Hecht was born in New York, moved to Chicago as a child, then grew up in Racine, WI, and eventually wound up in Hollywood because, as a famous telegram he received from Herman Mankiewicz noted, “You only competition is idiots.”

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Steve Sailer

    In the great immigration wave, the Jewish social organizations made an effort to spread out the immigrants so that they would not all end up in NY (just as now they send Hmong and Somalis to Minneapolis, etc.) But in the long run, Jews did not feel comfortable in small Midwestern cities and ended up concentrated back on the coasts in big city metro areas which are sort of their natural ecological niche. So Calvin Trillin's father is a grocer in Kansas City, MO but Calvin goes to Yale and moves to NY to write for the New Yorker.

    This happens not just to Jews but to other high IQ populations - American big cities are full of smart kids who got the hell out of the backwater that they grew up in. You leave for an Ivy school and you're never going back to East Podunk. The difference among non-Jews though is that there is some higher % of non-Jews who, though equally bright, attend the flagship state U and then return home and take over dad's tractor dealership in Kenosha and are perfectly happy.

  157. @Jack D
    @Bill

    There were only so many Polacks and Dagos to go around. In the post war period, labor markets were very tight - if you stole someone else's workers by paying them more, there's still an unfilled position somewhere. He ran a union plant so pay was not the issue.

    Replies: @Bill

    No, it was wages. Raise them enough and employers lose their taste for extra labor. Law of Demand and all that.

  158. @Jefferson
    @syonredux

    "I’m sorry, but this is a very silly statement."

    Why is that? If statistics ever came out about the educational gap between Blacks and Jews, you know it would be jaw droppingly wide.

    There is a reason why Jews are vastly overrepresented among career fields which require having a high IQ. For example you know damn well that more than 2 percent of America's surgeons are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America's engineers are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America's scientists are Jewish. More than 2 percent of America's tech entrepreneurs are Jewish and so on.

    Blacks don't represent 13 percent of any of those career fields. Negro success pales in comparison to Jewish success.

    Replies: @Foreign Expert, @RadicalCenter, @syonredux, @Bill

    More than 2 percent of America’s engineers are Jewish.

    Are they? I suppose if you include “software engineers,” this is true. But mechanical engineers and electrical engineers and chemical engineers and civil engineers? You think there is significant Jewish over-representation there? I don’t think so, but I could be convinced.

  159. @AndrewR
    @22pp22

    Obviously he is a traitor, but would you like it if someone called you that? They didn't say "Entschuldigung, Herr Vizekanzler, but we disagree with your policies and rhetoric and ask you to reconsider them."

    Being called a traitor is one of the most vicious insults there is, and, regardless of the accuracy, few are going to respond kindly to it. How about criticizing what he did to be called a traitor instead of his completely natural reaction to being called one.

    Replies: @Big Bill, @Brutusale

    How about criticizing what he did to be called a traitor instead of his completely natural reaction to being called one.

    Why not be nice and rational, you say? Because rationality (dialectic) is completely ineffective for most people. One must rely on rhetoric instead. Particularly when survival is at stake. Read Aristotle. Read Vox Day.

  160. @Jack D
    @avraham

    Maybe I'm thick headed but what is the difference between self-determination and nationalism? Isn't the "self" in self-determination the collective "self" of a nation?

    Nationalism works OK if you can get everyone to agree that they belong to a really big broadly defined "nation" like "American". But there is a lingering tendency for people to define themselves ever more locally (Catalans and not Spaniards) . And if the Catalans get their own country, there are probably sub-groups within Catalonia that would like their OWN self-determination - maybe there should be a North Catalonia and a South Catalonia (and then a SE Catalonia and SW Catalonia, etc.). And what do you do with a city that is half Castilian and half Catalan - whose self-determination counts? Germany used to be dotted with a hundred little principalities with "self-determination" and it was impossible (for better or for worse) to get anything done on a grand scale (either build a national transportation network OR invade the neighbors) until they all got together into one big country.

    Replies: @NC, @Big Bill

    And what do you do with a city that is half Castilian and half Catalan – whose self-determination counts?

    What do you do? Ethnic cleansing. At the end of WWII, FDR, Stalin and Churchill cleansed ten million German civilians from all over Eurasia and sent them to Germany (with the wholehearted support of Herr Morgenthau). Countless Jews were cleansed from Arab lands shortly thereafter (with the active participation of the Zionist elite).

    It isn’t a pleasant process. Sometimes the receiving country (i.e. the national homeland) has to further filter and cleanse the returnees they take back in order to purge them of the psychological and cultural taint of living in Exile for centuries. Witness the recent “scandals” in Israel regarding secret contraceptive treatments for brown and black Jewish returnees and the Ashkenazi/Zionist baby snatching of Arab Jewish returnee infants and children. Painful, but it had to be done to insure a common national identity.

    Theodore Herzl, the Great Zionist, is still on point: minorities (Jews, in his example) should return home, and those that don’t want to return should be assimilated and stop meddling in the majority culture that surrounds them.

    Ethnic cleansing should not be dismissed out of hand. It has worked for Israel and Eurasia.

  161. @AndrewR
    @22pp22

    Obviously he is a traitor, but would you like it if someone called you that? They didn't say "Entschuldigung, Herr Vizekanzler, but we disagree with your policies and rhetoric and ask you to reconsider them."

    Being called a traitor is one of the most vicious insults there is, and, regardless of the accuracy, few are going to respond kindly to it. How about criticizing what he did to be called a traitor instead of his completely natural reaction to being called one.

    Replies: @Big Bill, @Brutusale

    A common iSteve theme says that it’s always 1939 somewhere. Der Spiegel believes it’s America:

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/editorial-why-trump-would-be-a-danger-for-the-entire-world-a-1107880.html

    • Replies: @Tex
    @Brutusale

    Lugenpresse in action. It's a cut-and-paste collection of MSM talking points, right down to the bit about ignorant lumpenproletariat voting for the "dark" side.

  162. @Mike Zwick
    @Jefferson

    Golda Meir was from Milwaukee's North Side. According to the Jewish Virtual Library, there were 28255 Jews in Wisconsin as of 2014.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    A handy dandy list for everyone to save. Unless, you’re from NY, NJ, MA, MD or DC, and I’ll cut slack to those in CT and FL, please shut up about living amongst The Tribe.

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/usjewpop.html

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Brutusale

    Illinois and PA do OK also. You have to look not just at percentages but at raw numbers. PA and IL have just as many Jews as Maryland but a large overall population so that lowers the %. You also have to look at how Jews are concentrated - for example in PA they are mostly clustered around Philadelphia and in IL around Chicago (including the suburban areas), where they are a much higher % than the state average would indicate. The University of Pennsylvania, for example, is around 1/4 Jewish. Generally speaking any endeavor requiring high IQ in the US will run around 20 or 25% Jewish (Nobel prize winners, Field Medal winners, etc.) , at least until recently. Asians are rapidly taking their place in the STEM fields but Hollywood, law, etc. still remain pretty heavily Jewish because Asians aren't that great on verbal IQ.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Brutusale

    , @Jefferson
    @Brutusale

    "A handy dandy list for everyone to save. Unless, you’re from NY, NJ, MA, MD or DC, and I’ll cut slack to those in CT and FL, please shut up about living amongst The Tribe."

    You forgot the 800 pound kosher gorilla in the room California. Especially Silicon Valley, San Fernando Valley, and Hollywood.

  163. @Wilkey
    @ben tillman

    "First, there’s no resemblance to feudalism."

    Flood the country with cheap, pliant labor. Entrap the working class in debt. Move all the wealth and power to the top, and make the elite more a matter of lineage than of merit. If the people ever catch on and try to correct things overrun their will with a ruling by an unelected elite (like, say, the Supreme Court). And don't forget the state religion: Catholicism then, Multiculturalism now - each religion designed all the better to get the people to accept their fate without complaint.

    It's a lot like feudalism.

    Replies: @Gross Terry

    feudalism was a reaction to a collapse in central authority / currency, by forming customary relationships of economic support for protection.

    Our current system is one of hyper centralization of the monopole city at the expense and neglect of the periphery… its late empire, not young feudalism. We’ll get feudalism when the dollar bounces and the army deserts.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Gross Terry


    feudalism was a reaction to a collapse in central authority / currency, by forming customary relationships of economic support for protection.

    Our current system is one of hyper centralization of the monopole city at the expense and neglect of the periphery… its late empire, not young feudalism.
     
    Exactly. I'm tired of seeing this term misused so badly.
  164. Milwaukee has been under the rule of the Democratic party for 100 years. Only now is it falling apart. Cities under the Dems fall apart. How has Milwaukee survived all these years?

  165. @Former Darfur
    @South Texas Guy

    Hillary is a "virtual incumbent", and as such, gets much of the general five point advantage incumbents tend to get with White voters. As Pierce correctly stated, whites are generally authoritarian, in that we tend to support rather than oppose authority instinctively;this is a reason we can have successful civilizations.

    Bill Clinton, GWB and BHO were all re-elected for a second term despite serious questions about their suitability in the mind of all even remotely thinking observers. FDR got a demented four terms. Truman and LBJ were re-elected after a VP assumption of power. Without getting into the specifics, it's clear Presidents tend to be re-elected more often than not. They have to screw up fairly badly to lose.

    Trump is an outlier among challengers in that he has tremendous name recognition and low information voters in general tend to know him very well due to his reality TV and WWE adventures. Either way this is going to be an interesting race, only not in the ways such elections sometimes are.

    I don't think the MSM has ever been as onesided and blatantly corrupt as in this election. Hillary's negatives are so extreme-obvious federal offenses, a cemetery full of mysterious deaths in her wake, extreme likelihood of health problems-that the ability of the MSM to discuss anything else would be nonexistent in any other case. The small percentage of thinking whites are being disabused of respect for this system at greater and greater rates.

    Replies: @Forbes

    I don’t think the MSM has ever been as onesided and blatantly corrupt as in this election. Hillary’s negatives are so extreme-obvious federal offenses, a cemetery full of mysterious deaths in her wake, extreme likelihood of health problems-that the ability of the MSM to discuss anything else would be nonexistent in any other case.

    Exactly, the media approach is “All Trump, all-the-time” so as to make Hillary appear as non-scary and inoffensive as possible by comparison. If a tree falls in the wood and no one hears it…

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Forbes

    You'll note Hillary is taking off from Wednesday until Sunday. She will not do another public appearance until Sunday. The media acts like it is no big deal and will just focus on Trump during her absence. A real media would question her health or stamina. One thing about Trump, the guy can campaign. He might drift off topic, but the guy has energy.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  166. @Brutusale
    @AndrewR

    A common iSteve theme says that it's always 1939 somewhere. Der Spiegel believes it's America:

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/editorial-why-trump-would-be-a-danger-for-the-entire-world-a-1107880.html

    Replies: @Tex

    Lugenpresse in action. It’s a cut-and-paste collection of MSM talking points, right down to the bit about ignorant lumpenproletariat voting for the “dark” side.

  167. @JerryC
    @Almost Missouri

    Well, black people have been saying stuff like that - don't burn down the ghetto, burn down whitey's neighborhood - ever since black urban rioting became a thing in the 60s. It's obviously self-defeating behavior, regardless of what one thinks of their claims of oppression at the hands of The Man. Nevertheless, blacks are still torching their own neighborhoods 50 years later because the people who are inclined to riot have, by definition, low impulse control and low future time orientation.

    Replies: @BB753

    Does that mean that the sister of the shot dindu is a genious in her ‘hood? I like the part where she says with nuance “not that I need weaves anyway” in her own vibrant folksy way. A heart of gold.

  168. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @syonredux

    The SPECIFIC question he mentioned which you appear to ignore both times is that WI has a very small Jewish-American population (which in point of fact it does, relative to the rest of those US states where there are higher concentrations of Jewish-Americans, say in CA or NY). For the most part, the Germans and Poles that migrated to WI during the mid 19th century tended to be overwhelmingly Protestant and Catholic. In other words, the Jewish diaspora that reached its zenith during the Ellis Island generations came much later and even then, the Jewish peoples did not tend to migrate at all to places such as WI (the way they did tend to remain in New York, for instance).

    Also, for the most part, the entire US as a whole has a lot of dysfunctional blacks. That BLM has only recently taken its road show to Milwaukee over the past week only serves to highlight what the rest of the US has been experiencing since Ferguson: blacks do tend to behave quite badly, especially as the weather heats up outside during the summer months.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @syonredux, @syonredux

    The SPECIFIC question he mentioned which you appear to ignore both times is that WI has a very small Jewish-American population (which in point of fact it does, relative to the rest of those US states where there are higher concentrations of Jewish-Americans, say in CA or NY).

    Jefferson’s point was that he finds it odd that a state with a low percentage of Jews should have such a large Black-White gap.

    My point is that it isn’t odd at all. Combine very dysfunctional Blacks with high-functioning Japhetic Whites, and you will see a very large Black-White Gap:

    *

    For instance, that Wisconsin blacks usually score the lowest in the nation on the federal National Assessment of Educational Progress tests of public school students. And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C.

    Moreover, the black-white imprisonment ratio in Wisconsin is an extraordinarily high 11.5 to 1. That’s the second-highest of the 50 states, behind only New Jersey (12.2 to 1) and just ahead of Iowa (11.1), Minnesota (11.0), and Vermont (10.5).

    In contrast, the most equal black-white incarceration ratio is in Hawaii (2.4), where most blacks are either in the military or are Barack Obama-like exotics, followed by Southern states such as Mississippi (3.0), Georgia (3.2), Alabama (3.3), and Kentucky (3.3).

    And blacks in Wisconsin are 9.0 times more likely than the overall population to use welfare, the worst ratio in the country.

    http://takimag.com/article/whats_the_matter_with_wisconsin_steve_sailer/print#ixzz4HZEzwCiv

  169. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @syonredux

    The SPECIFIC question he mentioned which you appear to ignore both times is that WI has a very small Jewish-American population (which in point of fact it does, relative to the rest of those US states where there are higher concentrations of Jewish-Americans, say in CA or NY). For the most part, the Germans and Poles that migrated to WI during the mid 19th century tended to be overwhelmingly Protestant and Catholic. In other words, the Jewish diaspora that reached its zenith during the Ellis Island generations came much later and even then, the Jewish peoples did not tend to migrate at all to places such as WI (the way they did tend to remain in New York, for instance).

    Also, for the most part, the entire US as a whole has a lot of dysfunctional blacks. That BLM has only recently taken its road show to Milwaukee over the past week only serves to highlight what the rest of the US has been experiencing since Ferguson: blacks do tend to behave quite badly, especially as the weather heats up outside during the summer months.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @syonredux, @syonredux

    Since I hate waiting

    The SPECIFIC question he mentioned which you appear to ignore both times is that WI has a very small Jewish-American population (which in point of fact it does, relative to the rest of those US states where there are higher concentrations of Jewish-Americans, say in CA or NY).

    Jefferson’s point was that he finds it odd that a state with a low percentage of Jews should have such a large Black-White gap.

    My point is that it isn’t odd at all. Combine very dysfunctional Blacks with high-functioning Japhetic Whites, and you will see a very large Black-White Gap:

    *

    For instance, that Wisconsin blacks usually score the lowest in the nation on the federal National Assessment of Educational Progress tests of public school students. And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C.

    Moreover, the black-white imprisonment ratio in Wisconsin is an extraordinarily high 11.5 to 1. That’s the second-highest of the 50 states, behind only New Jersey (12.2 to 1) and just ahead of Iowa (11.1), Minnesota (11.0), and Vermont (10.5).

    In contrast, the most equal black-white incarceration ratio is in Hawaii (2.4), where most blacks are either in the military or are Barack Obama-like exotics, followed by Southern states such as Mississippi (3.0), Georgia (3.2), Alabama (3.3), and Kentucky (3.3).

    And blacks in Wisconsin are 9.0 times more likely than the overall population to use welfare, the worst ratio in the country.

    http://takimag.com/article/whats_the_matter_with_wisconsin_steve_sailer/print#i

    • Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @syonredux

    Again, ignoring the SPECIFIC part of the question, namely, that there are in fact very few Jews residing in Wisconsin. After all, Jewish-Americans comprise about 2.7-3.1% of the US population. Therefore it should be plainly obvious that the main reason that the test scores in WI are as high as they are is mainly due to non-Gentile whites.

    But this point can easily be made in several states (or at least it could before the onslaught of immigration from third world nations) where there are high concentrations of whites vs. blacks in states that Jews historically did not tend to migrate to. (e.g. Iowa; Alaska: Or TAKE YOUR PICK. And this is especially true pre-1965)

    I mean, they are only ca.3% of the total US population, which means they are only about 3% of the US's total white population as well. They have always historically clustered in large urban areas and usually the same few: NY; CHI; LA; are the three highest urban areas of Jewish-Americans (and again, remember that they are only 3% of the total US population). Historically this meant that places such as NY would tend to have a vastly higher percentage of Jews residing in that state which would be balanced out by having few Jews in other states.For the most part, Jews did not migrate to say, Idaho, Montana, North South Dakotas; Washington state etc.

    And once more: Jews are only about 3% of the total US population. So if a large number of them are concentrated in a few areas that means by default that there are going to be numerous states that contain very very few total numbers of Jewish-Americans.

    Remember: Jews are only ca.3% of the population which means that 97% of the population is not Jewish, or if we want to be accurate, that would mean that about 96-96.99% of America's white population is not Jewish.

    As that is the case, it should go without saying that any state that is at least 66% white and above, is going to have a higher IQ score relative to the number of blacks within that state.

  170. @dc.sunsets
    @Almost Missouri

    Meh.

    So far, throughout the last 100 years of Urban Minority Unrest, the rioters have had the innate sense to stay out of white, middle class suburban neighborhoods.

    City people are conditioned to dependence on Authority, so when Authority lets the rioters burn property, City people sigh and cry. Except LA's Korean shop owners, they do nothing.

    Suburban people may or may not be as conditioned. Many I've met seem not to be so conditioned, so my assumption is that if a mob of angry rioters rounded the bend toward such a neighborhood, their life insurance better be paid up. I think the Korean shop owner response would be common and dispositive.

    Rural people, of course, are NOT so conditioned. Unless they are surprised, I imagine attacking them would be very, very bad for ones health.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    City people are conditioned to dependence on Authority, so when Authority lets the rioters burn property, City people sigh and cry. Except LA’s Korean shop owners, they do nothing.

    During the Rodney King Riots, a group of would-be looters assembled in downtown Reno, and were about to have they selves a time…and then were met by a large group of armed, (mostly) White shopkeepers, and their friends & family. The party was hastily declared to be at an end, and no one even got so much as a t-shirt to commemorate the event. The national media gave this event about one line’s worth of coverage, but my mother was living in Carson City at the time, and everyone in northern Nevada was very aware of what had transpired.

  171. @Jefferson
    @syonredux

    "Because, as Steve noted, Wisconsin has a lot of very dysfunctional Blacks."

    Which Midwestern state doesn't? Even Iowa has gangs of Negroes terrorizing Whites at the state's county fair.
    https://youtu.be/-kT9zNrjXag

    Replies: @syonredux

    “Because, as Steve noted, Wisconsin has a lot of very dysfunctional Blacks.”

    Which Midwestern state doesn’t? Even Iowa has gangs of Negroes terrorizing Whites at the state’s county fair.

    Well, here’s what Steve had to say on the matter:

    For instance, that Wisconsin blacks usually score the lowest in the nation on the federal National Assessment of Educational Progress tests of public school students. And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C.

    Moreover, the black-white imprisonment ratio in Wisconsin is an extraordinarily high 11.5 to 1. That’s the second-highest of the 50 states, behind only New Jersey (12.2 to 1) and just ahead of Iowa (11.1), Minnesota (11.0), and Vermont (10.5).

    In contrast, the most equal black-white incarceration ratio is in Hawaii (2.4), where most blacks are either in the military or are Barack Obama-like exotics, followed by Southern states such as Mississippi (3.0), Georgia (3.2), Alabama (3.3), and Kentucky (3.3).

    And blacks in Wisconsin are 9.0 times more likely than the overall population to use welfare, the worst ratio in the country.

    http://takimag.com/article/whats_the_matter_with_wisconsin_steve_sailer/print#i

  172. @Jefferson
    @syonredux

    "Dunno. My understanding is that the Jews have won the battle of the cradle in Israel…."

    Arab Muslims are projected to become the majority of Israel's population in a few decades.
    http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/.premium-1.531104

    This is Israel's future, cue dark sinister Arabic music.
    https://youtu.be/lAq8d9NDsT0

    Replies: @syonredux

    Arab Muslims are projected to become the majority of Israel’s population in a few decades.

    MMM, maybe the Israeli Jews didn’t close that gap fast enough?

    Overall, Israel’s government and society have done an impressive job showing that a determined polity can alter fertility rates in its own favor. It was long said that the Jewish state was doomed by the much higher total fertility of Israeli Muslims, who as recently as 2000 were having babies at a rate of 4.57 per lifetime compared to only 2.67 for Israeli Jews. How could anyone possibly close that gap?

    Yet by 2011, the Muslim TFR had fallen to 3.51, while the Jewish TFR grew to 2.98.

    http://takimag.com/article/israels_fertility_policy_bears_fruit_steve_sailer/print#axzz4Hho7k8YO

    Perhaps they can bring in some more half-and-quarter Jews from Russia and Ukraine?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @syonredux

    The best way to kill fertility is to educate women and put them in the workforce and to destroy traditional family structures where marriage occurs early and the husband and the wife both have input on the number of children they want to have. Everywhere this has been tried, it's worked all too well. So the Israelis just have to work even harder on turning their Arab women into nice office ladies who go home to their cats. They'll have those Arabs down to Greek levels in a jiffy.

    Replies: @Jefferson

  173. @Mr. Anon
    @Jack D

    "Be honest, there is nothing that Netanyahu could do that would make you into a Jew lover."

    Is that the standard then? Must everyone love your people? Maybe attitude is part of the problem.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I would settle for indifferent. What is your opinion on Serbians or Tajikistanis? Most people don’t have one. When stuff goes wrong, they don’t blame Bulgarians or Swedes. I want it to be like that.

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Jack D


    I would settle for indifferent.
     
    Probably all of us would. But unlike Serbs and Serbia, Jews and Israel are front and center in the USA, and being indifferent isn't even an option. Just watch the presidential campaign. When Trump suggested that he would be an honest broker between Israelis and Palestinians, the establishment had a conniption. He then had to become a huugge Israeli supporter, lest his campaign crash and burn before he even made it out of the primaries.

    Could any presidential candidate be indifferent on this issue?

    The benefit is that Jews and Israel are going to get much better attention and protection than Serbs and Serbia. But they are also going to take some heat from time to time even if they are not to blame.
  174. iSteveFan says:
    @Jack D
    @Mr. Anon

    I would settle for indifferent. What is your opinion on Serbians or Tajikistanis? Most people don't have one. When stuff goes wrong, they don't blame Bulgarians or Swedes. I want it to be like that.

    Replies: @iSteveFan

    I would settle for indifferent.

    Probably all of us would. But unlike Serbs and Serbia, Jews and Israel are front and center in the USA, and being indifferent isn’t even an option. Just watch the presidential campaign. When Trump suggested that he would be an honest broker between Israelis and Palestinians, the establishment had a conniption. He then had to become a huugge Israeli supporter, lest his campaign crash and burn before he even made it out of the primaries.

    Could any presidential candidate be indifferent on this issue?

    The benefit is that Jews and Israel are going to get much better attention and protection than Serbs and Serbia. But they are also going to take some heat from time to time even if they are not to blame.

  175. @Former Darfur
    @Bill

    For some production positions blacks-average blacks-actually do pretty well. They can do repetitive unskilled or semiskilled tasks without the boredom issues that impact higher-IQ groups and seem to have greater resistance to repetitive stress injuries such as carpal tunnel syndrome on average. Automotive assembly is one of these, at least in certain positions on the line, so long as suitable (firm, consistent and thorough) supervision is provided they do fine.

    Replies: @Jack D

    The US military has had reasonable success with blacks. They recruit from the smarter end of the population , they break down the tasks and train so that people are specialized to do one thing and blacks respond well to the structured setting. The ranks are integrated so that blacks have both black and white role models and the role models are not thugs. It’s not perfect – when they send blacks overseas they sometimes rape locals and create ill will, etc. but on the whole they do better with blacks than many of the other parts of American society.

    If the American education establishment was not so leftist, I think running ghetto schools like military academies might be more successful than some other approaches. They shipped off the Donald to military academy when he was 13 because he was acting up.

  176. @syonredux
    @Jefferson


    Arab Muslims are projected to become the majority of Israel’s population in a few decades.

     

    MMM, maybe the Israeli Jews didn't close that gap fast enough?

    Overall, Israel’s government and society have done an impressive job showing that a determined polity can alter fertility rates in its own favor. It was long said that the Jewish state was doomed by the much higher total fertility of Israeli Muslims, who as recently as 2000 were having babies at a rate of 4.57 per lifetime compared to only 2.67 for Israeli Jews. How could anyone possibly close that gap?

    Yet by 2011, the Muslim TFR had fallen to 3.51, while the Jewish TFR grew to 2.98.
     
    http://takimag.com/article/israels_fertility_policy_bears_fruit_steve_sailer/print#axzz4Hho7k8YO


    Perhaps they can bring in some more half-and-quarter Jews from Russia and Ukraine?

    Replies: @Jack D

    The best way to kill fertility is to educate women and put them in the workforce and to destroy traditional family structures where marriage occurs early and the husband and the wife both have input on the number of children they want to have. Everywhere this has been tried, it’s worked all too well. So the Israelis just have to work even harder on turning their Arab women into nice office ladies who go home to their cats. They’ll have those Arabs down to Greek levels in a jiffy.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Jack D

    "So the Israelis just have to work even harder on turning their Arab women into nice office ladies who go home to their cats. They’ll have those Arabs down to Greek levels in a jiffy."

    Good luck trying to convince Arab Muslim women who dress like sacks of potatoes and Oriental ninjas to become cat ladies.

    Convincing women not to have kids only works on females who dress in Western clothing, which is why it has worked out so well on Israel's Jewish female and Arab Christian female population.

    All sack wearing and ninja clothes wearing Muslim woman are mothers by no later than their 20s.

  177. @Brutusale
    @Mike Zwick

    A handy dandy list for everyone to save. Unless, you're from NY, NJ, MA, MD or DC, and I'll cut slack to those in CT and FL, please shut up about living amongst The Tribe.


    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/usjewpop.html

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jefferson

    Illinois and PA do OK also. You have to look not just at percentages but at raw numbers. PA and IL have just as many Jews as Maryland but a large overall population so that lowers the %. You also have to look at how Jews are concentrated – for example in PA they are mostly clustered around Philadelphia and in IL around Chicago (including the suburban areas), where they are a much higher % than the state average would indicate. The University of Pennsylvania, for example, is around 1/4 Jewish. Generally speaking any endeavor requiring high IQ in the US will run around 20 or 25% Jewish (Nobel prize winners, Field Medal winners, etc.) , at least until recently. Asians are rapidly taking their place in the STEM fields but Hollywood, law, etc. still remain pretty heavily Jewish because Asians aren’t that great on verbal IQ.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Jack D

    "Asians are rapidly taking their place in the STEM fields but Hollywood, law, etc. still remain pretty heavily Jewish because Asians aren’t that great on verbal IQ."

    Orientals don't need to be well represented in Hollywood when China has one of the largest film industries in the world surpassing The U.K. And Indians have Bollywood, also one of the largest film industries in the world.

    , @Brutusale
    @Jack D

    I would imagine the urban areas of any state would have 3-4 times the Jews as its 'burbs and rural areas. At least, if my Jewish friends are any guide, until it's time to send the kids to school. When that comes around, they're as minority-averse as the rest of us.

    My two best Jewish friends moves when their oldest was a year away from school: one from Mission Hill to Weston and the other from Jamaica Plain to Needham. Funny thing is that both areas have been substantially gentrified since they left.

  178. @Steve Sailer
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    A lot of Chicago Jews moved to Southern California, so I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Wisconsin Jews did too. For example, screenwriter Ben Hecht was born in New York, moved to Chicago as a child, then grew up in Racine, WI, and eventually wound up in Hollywood because, as a famous telegram he received from Herman Mankiewicz noted, "You only competition is idiots."

    Replies: @Jack D

    In the great immigration wave, the Jewish social organizations made an effort to spread out the immigrants so that they would not all end up in NY (just as now they send Hmong and Somalis to Minneapolis, etc.) But in the long run, Jews did not feel comfortable in small Midwestern cities and ended up concentrated back on the coasts in big city metro areas which are sort of their natural ecological niche. So Calvin Trillin’s father is a grocer in Kansas City, MO but Calvin goes to Yale and moves to NY to write for the New Yorker.

    This happens not just to Jews but to other high IQ populations – American big cities are full of smart kids who got the hell out of the backwater that they grew up in. You leave for an Ivy school and you’re never going back to East Podunk. The difference among non-Jews though is that there is some higher % of non-Jews who, though equally bright, attend the flagship state U and then return home and take over dad’s tractor dealership in Kenosha and are perfectly happy.

  179. @Marty
    I just now witnessed a real-time confirmation of Whiskey's thesis, above, about the nature of women's opposition to Trump. At a popular Mexican restaurant in Mill Valley, five women are celebrating a birthday. Four appear to be Indian, one white. The woman doing all the talking is a strikingly pretty dotter of about 30. She may be a physician - there's a lot of obstetrical talk. She tells the others that the reason to vote for Hillary is technocratic experience - Trump's gov't outsider status is a drawback. Then she says, "men are voting for him because they're trying to get back what they've lost in the workforce."

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    She tells the others that the reason to vote for Hillary is technocratic experience – Trump’s gov’t outsider status is a drawback. Then she says, “men are voting for him because they’re trying to get back what they’ve lost in the workforce.”

    Women–generally–don’t even know what they don’t know.

    Hillary’s “technocratic experience” is indeed of the sort that women value–she’s had some titles. The reality is she’s been an absolute disaster at actual achievement in every managerial role she’s had–e.g. health care task force, secretary of state. Her “technical experience” indicates that her actual technical competence is very low.

    In fairness, the cute dotter is on to something that men are unhappy with where things are headed in the workforce. However, she’s almost certainly absolute ignorant of the reality that it is *men* who are making her life comfy and nice. Women do *almost nothing* in the workforce that is actually critical.

    Our prosperous reality comes from the work of men–in oil and natural gas fields, on farms, in mines, in power plants, water treatment plants, laying pipelines, building roads, buildings, housing, writing computer code, fixing cars … If women simply didn’t show up to work tomorrow … we’d survive! A bunch of guys would have answer phones and do more clerical work. A bunch of guys would have to be drafted to show up at the schools to teach. Only nursing i’d say–a traditional female career, with a mission critical skill set–would we have something of a crisis. (Some patients would definitely die.) More female careerism and empowerment isn’t saving the nation, it’s just more overhead the dwindling supply of productive men have to drag around.

    Mostly men are voting for Trump because they are less conformist and more realistic and logical about the bucket of shit our elites are serving up and the grim future in store.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @Clyde
    @AnotherDad


    Our prosperous reality comes from the work of men–in oil and natural gas fields, on farms, in mines, in power plants, water treatment plants, laying pipelines, building roads, buildings, housing, writing computer code, fixing cars … If women simply didn’t show up to work tomorrow … we’d survive! A bunch of guys would have answer phones and do more clerical work. A bunch of guys would have to be drafted to show up at the schools to teach. Only nursing i’d say–a traditional female career, with a mission critical skill set–would we have something of a crisis. (Some patients would definitely die.) More female careerism and empowerment isn’t saving the nation, it’s just more overhead the dwindling supply of productive men have to drag around.
     
    I have said as much for a few years. Most of the work these middle and upper class women do is a joke. An ego enhancer. And not tough at all. You could fire half the women in the Federal Gov't and no one would notice it. Some female doctors and nurses are valuable and work their tails off. Same with a smart hustling waitress making some good money. Go to Asia where women are often working repetitive grunt jobs. Or to Foxconn assembly lines where they do fine assembly 10-12 hours a day.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @Jefferson
    @AnotherDad

    "Mostly men are voting for Trump"

    Mostly White men are voting for Donald Trump, not men in general. Not a lot of Puerto Rican guys and Pakistani guys for example at pro-Donald Trump rallies, even when he is in an extremely racially diverse state. His rallies are always Whiter than the states he is in.

  180. @Mr. Anon
    @Corvinus

    "Get your facts straight, please. There was a riot instigated primarily by a specific segment of the black population devoted to causing trouble that is NOT part of the Black Lives Matter Movement."

    What would you know about facts? They were shouting "Black Lives Matter". Clearly, they consider themselves part of the movement. In any event, BLM is all about "causing trouble".

    " In any riot, you will have your millers and your agitators, along with people who want to intervene and stop the mob mentality, but are powerless, lest they fall victim."

    Yeah, you have agitators, who really like riots, and millers, who just kind of like riots, and people who just want to "stop the violence" who - in this case - exist only in your imagination. How many black people have been killed at black "stop the violence" rallies?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “What would you know about facts? They were shouting “Black Lives Matter”. Clearly, they consider themselves part of the movement. In any event, BLM is all about “causing trouble”.”

    If a white person says “Death to blacks”, is he automatically a card carrying member of the KKK?
    Furthermore, BLM is a political and social movement that, like any movement, will have their fair share of over the top agitators.

    “Yeah, you have agitators, who really like riots, and millers, who just kind of like riots, and people who just want to “stop the violence” who – in this case – exist only in your imagination.”

    The only imagination is you believing that all black people act and think alike. In the aftermath, local leaders in the black and white community held a vigil to promote peace and condemn the violence.

    • Replies: @Gross Terry
    @Corvinus

    need mo money for dem programs

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus, "In the aftermath, local leaders in the black and white community held a vigil to promote peace and condemn the violence." That seems to happen frequently after these bouts of unruliness but it accomplishes nothing.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @iSteveFan
    @Corvinus


    The only imagination is you believing that all black people act and think alike.
     
    To be fair they do vote for the same party in numbers no other group does, unless you include populations under one-party rule.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  181. @Jack D
    @syonredux

    The best way to kill fertility is to educate women and put them in the workforce and to destroy traditional family structures where marriage occurs early and the husband and the wife both have input on the number of children they want to have. Everywhere this has been tried, it's worked all too well. So the Israelis just have to work even harder on turning their Arab women into nice office ladies who go home to their cats. They'll have those Arabs down to Greek levels in a jiffy.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “So the Israelis just have to work even harder on turning their Arab women into nice office ladies who go home to their cats. They’ll have those Arabs down to Greek levels in a jiffy.”

    Good luck trying to convince Arab Muslim women who dress like sacks of potatoes and Oriental ninjas to become cat ladies.

    Convincing women not to have kids only works on females who dress in Western clothing, which is why it has worked out so well on Israel’s Jewish female and Arab Christian female population.

    All sack wearing and ninja clothes wearing Muslim woman are mothers by no later than their 20s.

  182. @Brutusale
    @Mike Zwick

    A handy dandy list for everyone to save. Unless, you're from NY, NJ, MA, MD or DC, and I'll cut slack to those in CT and FL, please shut up about living amongst The Tribe.


    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/usjewpop.html

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jefferson

    “A handy dandy list for everyone to save. Unless, you’re from NY, NJ, MA, MD or DC, and I’ll cut slack to those in CT and FL, please shut up about living amongst The Tribe.”

    You forgot the 800 pound kosher gorilla in the room California. Especially Silicon Valley, San Fernando Valley, and Hollywood.

  183. @Jack D
    @Brutusale

    Illinois and PA do OK also. You have to look not just at percentages but at raw numbers. PA and IL have just as many Jews as Maryland but a large overall population so that lowers the %. You also have to look at how Jews are concentrated - for example in PA they are mostly clustered around Philadelphia and in IL around Chicago (including the suburban areas), where they are a much higher % than the state average would indicate. The University of Pennsylvania, for example, is around 1/4 Jewish. Generally speaking any endeavor requiring high IQ in the US will run around 20 or 25% Jewish (Nobel prize winners, Field Medal winners, etc.) , at least until recently. Asians are rapidly taking their place in the STEM fields but Hollywood, law, etc. still remain pretty heavily Jewish because Asians aren't that great on verbal IQ.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Brutusale

    “Asians are rapidly taking their place in the STEM fields but Hollywood, law, etc. still remain pretty heavily Jewish because Asians aren’t that great on verbal IQ.”

    Orientals don’t need to be well represented in Hollywood when China has one of the largest film industries in the world surpassing The U.K. And Indians have Bollywood, also one of the largest film industries in the world.

  184. @Corvinus
    @Mr. Anon

    "What would you know about facts? They were shouting “Black Lives Matter”. Clearly, they consider themselves part of the movement. In any event, BLM is all about “causing trouble”."

    If a white person says "Death to blacks", is he automatically a card carrying member of the KKK?
    Furthermore, BLM is a political and social movement that, like any movement, will have their fair share of over the top agitators.

    "Yeah, you have agitators, who really like riots, and millers, who just kind of like riots, and people who just want to “stop the violence” who – in this case – exist only in your imagination."

    The only imagination is you believing that all black people act and think alike. In the aftermath, local leaders in the black and white community held a vigil to promote peace and condemn the violence.

    Replies: @Gross Terry, @Buffalo Joe, @iSteveFan

    need mo money for dem programs

  185. @Corvinus
    @Mr. Anon

    "What would you know about facts? They were shouting “Black Lives Matter”. Clearly, they consider themselves part of the movement. In any event, BLM is all about “causing trouble”."

    If a white person says "Death to blacks", is he automatically a card carrying member of the KKK?
    Furthermore, BLM is a political and social movement that, like any movement, will have their fair share of over the top agitators.

    "Yeah, you have agitators, who really like riots, and millers, who just kind of like riots, and people who just want to “stop the violence” who – in this case – exist only in your imagination."

    The only imagination is you believing that all black people act and think alike. In the aftermath, local leaders in the black and white community held a vigil to promote peace and condemn the violence.

    Replies: @Gross Terry, @Buffalo Joe, @iSteveFan

    Corvinus, “In the aftermath, local leaders in the black and white community held a vigil to promote peace and condemn the violence.” That seems to happen frequently after these bouts of unruliness but it accomplishes nothing.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Buffalo Joe

    "That seems to happen frequently after these bouts of unruliness but it accomplishes nothing."

    Because the system is broken, with the people associated with it, you and I included, refusing to actually deal with the root problems, black AND white related.

  186. @avraham
    She does not seem very nice.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    She does not seem very nice.

    She isn’t *designed* to be nice. She hasn’t even undergone much of the “try to keep a man” selection–either in Africa or in the last few “welfare generations” here–that makes the company of women occasionally quite charming.

    ~~

    “What’s the matter with Wisconsin” is exactly what’s the matter with social democratic welfare states in general: they make no sense, without eugenics. It’s common sense, if your going to remove a bunch of the nastiness that did selection for “middle classness”, you have to replace it with eugenic program … or that “middle classness” you value will be a thing of the past. The welfare state within a generation reversed the progress blacks had made in the previous 100 toward white norms and unleashed their inner-African.

    The WASPy Progressives of 100 years ago, at least had a clear sense that their societal improvement should be accompanied by suppressing the fertility of the losers, crazies, criminals and incompetents. (Encouraging people like my Irish ancestors and blacks to stop having so many kids was a core part of the program.)

    Unfortunately, this more or less coherent progressive vision has been replaced by a leftist\Jewish\post-holocaust\anti-eugenic\anti-genetic “progressive” vision where genes don’t matter, and we literally pay stupid people to have kids.

    You couple this with 2nd wave–frustrated Jewish housewife–and then 3rd, 4th wave–academic lesbian–feminism and smart women female careerism uber alles … and you have a eugenic disaster.

    And then, of course, you pile on with the mass importation of low skill (skewing low IQ) 3rd worlders … and we’re headed over the cliff.

    Of course–one of the benefits of our new tolerant progressive elites–pointing out what a complete eugenic disaster all these policies makes you “racist, racist, racist!” … practically a Nazi, if not “Hitler!” himself.

    We have social policies that are so stupid, they can only be maintained by absolute thought policing, vitriol and calumny, cause if very many people thought seriously about them, they’d be derided endlessly and chucked forthwith.

  187. @AnotherDad
    @Marty


    She tells the others that the reason to vote for Hillary is technocratic experience – Trump’s gov’t outsider status is a drawback. Then she says, “men are voting for him because they’re trying to get back what they’ve lost in the workforce.”
     
    Women--generally--don't even know what they don't know.

    Hillary's "technocratic experience" is indeed of the sort that women value--she's had some titles. The reality is she's been an absolute disaster at actual achievement in every managerial role she's had--e.g. health care task force, secretary of state. Her "technical experience" indicates that her actual technical competence is very low.

    In fairness, the cute dotter is on to something that men are unhappy with where things are headed in the workforce. However, she's almost certainly absolute ignorant of the reality that it is *men* who are making her life comfy and nice. Women do *almost nothing* in the workforce that is actually critical.

    Our prosperous reality comes from the work of men--in oil and natural gas fields, on farms, in mines, in power plants, water treatment plants, laying pipelines, building roads, buildings, housing, writing computer code, fixing cars ... If women simply didn't show up to work tomorrow ... we'd survive! A bunch of guys would have answer phones and do more clerical work. A bunch of guys would have to be drafted to show up at the schools to teach. Only nursing i'd say--a traditional female career, with a mission critical skill set--would we have something of a crisis. (Some patients would definitely die.) More female careerism and empowerment isn't saving the nation, it's just more overhead the dwindling supply of productive men have to drag around.

    Mostly men are voting for Trump because they are less conformist and more realistic and logical about the bucket of shit our elites are serving up and the grim future in store.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Jefferson

    Our prosperous reality comes from the work of men–in oil and natural gas fields, on farms, in mines, in power plants, water treatment plants, laying pipelines, building roads, buildings, housing, writing computer code, fixing cars … If women simply didn’t show up to work tomorrow … we’d survive! A bunch of guys would have answer phones and do more clerical work. A bunch of guys would have to be drafted to show up at the schools to teach. Only nursing i’d say–a traditional female career, with a mission critical skill set–would we have something of a crisis. (Some patients would definitely die.) More female careerism and empowerment isn’t saving the nation, it’s just more overhead the dwindling supply of productive men have to drag around.

    I have said as much for a few years. Most of the work these middle and upper class women do is a joke. An ego enhancer. And not tough at all. You could fire half the women in the Federal Gov’t and no one would notice it. Some female doctors and nurses are valuable and work their tails off. Same with a smart hustling waitress making some good money. Go to Asia where women are often working repetitive grunt jobs. Or to Foxconn assembly lines where they do fine assembly 10-12 hours a day.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Clyde

    "I have said as much for a few years. Most of the work these middle and upper class women do is a joke. An ego enhancer. And not tough at all."

    In the many years I have taken Uber I have never once gotten a female Uber driver, not even a masculine butch dyke let alone a traditional girly woman.

    The vast majority of women are extremely scared to take high risk jobs that come with potential danger. You are right not tough at all.

    Even the masculine butch dykes are scared of the possibility of potential attempted rape scenarios that come with being an Uber driver.

  188. @syonredux
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Since I hate waiting


    The SPECIFIC question he mentioned which you appear to ignore both times is that WI has a very small Jewish-American population (which in point of fact it does, relative to the rest of those US states where there are higher concentrations of Jewish-Americans, say in CA or NY).
     
    Jefferson’s point was that he finds it odd that a state with a low percentage of Jews should have such a large Black-White gap.

    My point is that it isn’t odd at all. Combine very dysfunctional Blacks with high-functioning Japhetic Whites, and you will see a very large Black-White Gap:

    *

    For instance, that Wisconsin blacks usually score the lowest in the nation on the federal National Assessment of Educational Progress tests of public school students. And the white-black gap on the NAEP is larger in Wisconsin than anywhere other than Washington, D.C.

    Moreover, the black-white imprisonment ratio in Wisconsin is an extraordinarily high 11.5 to 1. That’s the second-highest of the 50 states, behind only New Jersey (12.2 to 1) and just ahead of Iowa (11.1), Minnesota (11.0), and Vermont (10.5).

    In contrast, the most equal black-white incarceration ratio is in Hawaii (2.4), where most blacks are either in the military or are Barack Obama-like exotics, followed by Southern states such as Mississippi (3.0), Georgia (3.2), Alabama (3.3), and Kentucky (3.3).

    And blacks in Wisconsin are 9.0 times more likely than the overall population to use welfare, the worst ratio in the country.

     

    http://takimag.com/article/whats_the_matter_with_wisconsin_steve_sailer/print#i

    Replies: @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Again, ignoring the SPECIFIC part of the question, namely, that there are in fact very few Jews residing in Wisconsin. After all, Jewish-Americans comprise about 2.7-3.1% of the US population. Therefore it should be plainly obvious that the main reason that the test scores in WI are as high as they are is mainly due to non-Gentile whites.

    But this point can easily be made in several states (or at least it could before the onslaught of immigration from third world nations) where there are high concentrations of whites vs. blacks in states that Jews historically did not tend to migrate to. (e.g. Iowa; Alaska: Or TAKE YOUR PICK. And this is especially true pre-1965)

    I mean, they are only ca.3% of the total US population, which means they are only about 3% of the US’s total white population as well. They have always historically clustered in large urban areas and usually the same few: NY; CHI; LA; are the three highest urban areas of Jewish-Americans (and again, remember that they are only 3% of the total US population). Historically this meant that places such as NY would tend to have a vastly higher percentage of Jews residing in that state which would be balanced out by having few Jews in other states.For the most part, Jews did not migrate to say, Idaho, Montana, North South Dakotas; Washington state etc.

    And once more: Jews are only about 3% of the total US population. So if a large number of them are concentrated in a few areas that means by default that there are going to be numerous states that contain very very few total numbers of Jewish-Americans.

    Remember: Jews are only ca.3% of the population which means that 97% of the population is not Jewish, or if we want to be accurate, that would mean that about 96-96.99% of America’s white population is not Jewish.

    As that is the case, it should go without saying that any state that is at least 66% white and above, is going to have a higher IQ score relative to the number of blacks within that state.

  189. @AnotherDad
    @Marty


    She tells the others that the reason to vote for Hillary is technocratic experience – Trump’s gov’t outsider status is a drawback. Then she says, “men are voting for him because they’re trying to get back what they’ve lost in the workforce.”
     
    Women--generally--don't even know what they don't know.

    Hillary's "technocratic experience" is indeed of the sort that women value--she's had some titles. The reality is she's been an absolute disaster at actual achievement in every managerial role she's had--e.g. health care task force, secretary of state. Her "technical experience" indicates that her actual technical competence is very low.

    In fairness, the cute dotter is on to something that men are unhappy with where things are headed in the workforce. However, she's almost certainly absolute ignorant of the reality that it is *men* who are making her life comfy and nice. Women do *almost nothing* in the workforce that is actually critical.

    Our prosperous reality comes from the work of men--in oil and natural gas fields, on farms, in mines, in power plants, water treatment plants, laying pipelines, building roads, buildings, housing, writing computer code, fixing cars ... If women simply didn't show up to work tomorrow ... we'd survive! A bunch of guys would have answer phones and do more clerical work. A bunch of guys would have to be drafted to show up at the schools to teach. Only nursing i'd say--a traditional female career, with a mission critical skill set--would we have something of a crisis. (Some patients would definitely die.) More female careerism and empowerment isn't saving the nation, it's just more overhead the dwindling supply of productive men have to drag around.

    Mostly men are voting for Trump because they are less conformist and more realistic and logical about the bucket of shit our elites are serving up and the grim future in store.

    Replies: @Clyde, @Jefferson

    “Mostly men are voting for Trump”

    Mostly White men are voting for Donald Trump, not men in general. Not a lot of Puerto Rican guys and Pakistani guys for example at pro-Donald Trump rallies, even when he is in an extremely racially diverse state. His rallies are always Whiter than the states he is in.

  190. @Clyde
    @AnotherDad


    Our prosperous reality comes from the work of men–in oil and natural gas fields, on farms, in mines, in power plants, water treatment plants, laying pipelines, building roads, buildings, housing, writing computer code, fixing cars … If women simply didn’t show up to work tomorrow … we’d survive! A bunch of guys would have answer phones and do more clerical work. A bunch of guys would have to be drafted to show up at the schools to teach. Only nursing i’d say–a traditional female career, with a mission critical skill set–would we have something of a crisis. (Some patients would definitely die.) More female careerism and empowerment isn’t saving the nation, it’s just more overhead the dwindling supply of productive men have to drag around.
     
    I have said as much for a few years. Most of the work these middle and upper class women do is a joke. An ego enhancer. And not tough at all. You could fire half the women in the Federal Gov't and no one would notice it. Some female doctors and nurses are valuable and work their tails off. Same with a smart hustling waitress making some good money. Go to Asia where women are often working repetitive grunt jobs. Or to Foxconn assembly lines where they do fine assembly 10-12 hours a day.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “I have said as much for a few years. Most of the work these middle and upper class women do is a joke. An ego enhancer. And not tough at all.”

    In the many years I have taken Uber I have never once gotten a female Uber driver, not even a masculine butch dyke let alone a traditional girly woman.

    The vast majority of women are extremely scared to take high risk jobs that come with potential danger. You are right not tough at all.

    Even the masculine butch dykes are scared of the possibility of potential attempted rape scenarios that come with being an Uber driver.

  191. iSteveFan says:
    @Forbes
    @Former Darfur


    I don’t think the MSM has ever been as onesided and blatantly corrupt as in this election. Hillary’s negatives are so extreme-obvious federal offenses, a cemetery full of mysterious deaths in her wake, extreme likelihood of health problems-that the ability of the MSM to discuss anything else would be nonexistent in any other case.
     
    Exactly, the media approach is "All Trump, all-the-time" so as to make Hillary appear as non-scary and inoffensive as possible by comparison. If a tree falls in the wood and no one hears it...

    Replies: @iSteveFan

    You’ll note Hillary is taking off from Wednesday until Sunday. She will not do another public appearance until Sunday. The media acts like it is no big deal and will just focus on Trump during her absence. A real media would question her health or stamina. One thing about Trump, the guy can campaign. He might drift off topic, but the guy has energy.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @iSteveFan

    "You’ll note Hillary is taking off from Wednesday until Sunday. She will not do another public appearance until Sunday. The media acts like it is no big deal and will just focus on Trump during her absence. A real media would question her health or stamina. One thing about Trump, the guy can campaign. He might drift off topic, but the guy has energy."

    If Donald Trump in a middle of a presidential campaign run took that many days off per week, there would be nonstop round the clock coverage about his health & stamina by the mainstream media.

    Remember when the mainstream media made a huge deal about whether or not John McCain was healthy enough to be president. They won't do the same to Hildabeast because the mainstream media have basically coronated her as president.

  192. @Corvinus
    @Mr. Anon

    "What would you know about facts? They were shouting “Black Lives Matter”. Clearly, they consider themselves part of the movement. In any event, BLM is all about “causing trouble”."

    If a white person says "Death to blacks", is he automatically a card carrying member of the KKK?
    Furthermore, BLM is a political and social movement that, like any movement, will have their fair share of over the top agitators.

    "Yeah, you have agitators, who really like riots, and millers, who just kind of like riots, and people who just want to “stop the violence” who – in this case – exist only in your imagination."

    The only imagination is you believing that all black people act and think alike. In the aftermath, local leaders in the black and white community held a vigil to promote peace and condemn the violence.

    Replies: @Gross Terry, @Buffalo Joe, @iSteveFan

    The only imagination is you believing that all black people act and think alike.

    To be fair they do vote for the same party in numbers no other group does, unless you include populations under one-party rule.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @iSteveFan

    "To be fair they do vote for the same party in numbers no other group does, unless you include populations under one-party rule."

    As do white evangelical millennials (adults under 34), so what's your point?

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @res

  193. @iSteveFan
    @Forbes

    You'll note Hillary is taking off from Wednesday until Sunday. She will not do another public appearance until Sunday. The media acts like it is no big deal and will just focus on Trump during her absence. A real media would question her health or stamina. One thing about Trump, the guy can campaign. He might drift off topic, but the guy has energy.

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “You’ll note Hillary is taking off from Wednesday until Sunday. She will not do another public appearance until Sunday. The media acts like it is no big deal and will just focus on Trump during her absence. A real media would question her health or stamina. One thing about Trump, the guy can campaign. He might drift off topic, but the guy has energy.”

    If Donald Trump in a middle of a presidential campaign run took that many days off per week, there would be nonstop round the clock coverage about his health & stamina by the mainstream media.

    Remember when the mainstream media made a huge deal about whether or not John McCain was healthy enough to be president. They won’t do the same to Hildabeast because the mainstream media have basically coronated her as president.

  194. @Jefferson
    Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clark sure likes to wear cowboy hats a lot. He must be the rare Black Redneck. I would not be surprised if he likes to listen to Country music. He is definitely not a Dindu Nuffin type Negro.

    Replies: @Seamus, @Purpleslog, @SteveRogers42

    Should have been Veep. GOT to be FBI director. No statute of limitations, Hillary.

  195. The mainstream media won’t question Hildabeast’s health because they have basically coronated her as president almost 3 months before election day. To them it’s already ALL HAIL QUEEN HILLARY. That cankles ass bitch is basically seen as royalty in the eyes of the mainstream media.

  196. @Jack Hanson
    @Jefferson

    Oh give it a break. All these backseat commenters who haven't won anything beyond a participation medal who just "know" if they blather on about Spengler they will win the race.

    Yet again the media (and the doom masturbators here) declared Trump dead and now even the massaged polls are showing a dead heat. It's so bad that the media is back to recycling "Trump isn't even trying to win!" for the nth time.

    Trump beat 14 GOP idiots by realizing what Hillary and the people here have not : it's a marathon, not a sprint.

    Replies: @SteveRogers42

    It’s time to cue up the Rocky theme.

  197. @Anonymous
    @Jefferson

    What you talking about Willis?

    Replies: @SteveRogers42

    Excuse me, but I must correct your grammar. That’s “Whatchu talkin’ bout, Willis?”

  198. @Anonymous
    I see no path to victory unless you can get white college/university millenials on your side, put it another way Jobbik is getting 53 percent of the Hungarian millenial vote, and draws a lot of its support from university students, how much of the white millenial vote is Trump getting? And Jobbik's policy positions make Trump look like a San Francisco liberal.

    Replies: @SteveRogers42

    Regarding the twits and twats of the college/millenial crew: It might be enough to simply get them NOT on Her side. If a sizeable chunk stay home and another chunk go for Stein or Governor Weed, those are half votes

  199. @iSteveFan
    @Corvinus


    The only imagination is you believing that all black people act and think alike.
     
    To be fair they do vote for the same party in numbers no other group does, unless you include populations under one-party rule.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “To be fair they do vote for the same party in numbers no other group does, unless you include populations under one-party rule.”

    As do white evangelical millennials (adults under 34), so what’s your point?

    • Replies: @iSteveFan
    @Corvinus


    As do white evangelical millennials (adults under 34),
     
    What percentage do white evangelical millennials vote for one party? Do they vote in similar bloc-like fashion as blacks?

    what’s your point?
     
    The point is blacks, no matter where they live in the country or their economic background, vote remarkably alike. For a population of 40 million-plus that is not normal. Is there another population group anywhere in the free world that votes as one-sided like they do?

    Replies: @Jefferson

    , @res
    @Corvinus


    As do white evangelical millennials (adults under 34), so what’s your point?
     
    I assume you are referring to this: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/14/us/donald-trump-white-evangelical-voters-poll.html ?
    75% (not sure why Pew lumped the center category with the R's) is quite a bit less than the ~95% typical black D vote (~3-4x greater proportion of evangelical D votes than black R votes).
    This poll shows Trump polling at 8% among blacks: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-faces-hurdle-minority-voters-clinton-maintains-lead-poll-shows-n636061

    Let's expand the conversation a bit and look at the history of the last few elections. From http://www.pewforum.org/2012/11/07/how-the-faithful-voted-2012-preliminary-exit-poll-analysis/
    If you take a look at the table there you'll notice that the group closest in voting pattern percentage (except for being opposite) to white evangelicals is Jews. Blacks vote significantly more single party than any other group. Since 2000 the only election where blacks voted more than 7% for a Republican president was 2004 (why then?) when they voted 13% for Bush. Contrast that to evangelicals who never voted less than 20% Democratic and Jews who never voted less than 20% Republican. Mormons were only tabulated in 2004 and 2012 apparently, but there they voted about 80/20 R/D.
  200. @Buffalo Joe
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus, "In the aftermath, local leaders in the black and white community held a vigil to promote peace and condemn the violence." That seems to happen frequently after these bouts of unruliness but it accomplishes nothing.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “That seems to happen frequently after these bouts of unruliness but it accomplishes nothing.”

    Because the system is broken, with the people associated with it, you and I included, refusing to actually deal with the root problems, black AND white related.

  201. @Talpiot/Ullastret
    @Maj. Kong

    That's fine.

    I'm a non-Jew living in Israel. Most Israelis I talk to think Trump sounds like the better candidate. Most Israelis are relatively unsophisticated, brutish, Eastern European- or Middle Eastern-type people.

    I generally support the severing of Israel from the Jewish diaspora, at least the American one. It's happening already anyway. But BDS won't work because one of the demands of BDS is the dissolution of Israel. Israelis aren't Swedes -- they won't voluntarily commit suicide.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @snorlax

    Israelis aren’t Swedes — they won’t voluntarily commit suicide.

    Afrikaners certainly aren’t Swedes,[1] and yet…

    For that matter, the Rhodesians, who, in the most interesting[2] anthropological curiosity in the history of Sub-Saharan Africa, maintained, in complete stasis, even unto the very moment of their deposition, an exact facsimile of the culture of 19th-century Tory England.

    Outside visitors would universally report they felt like they had traveled through time. Read (skim) the link – it’s a trip.

    But even the Rhodies ultimately surrendered their country. As did the English!

    [1] Nor are Texans. Nor were the Swedes, once.

    [2] But, needless to say, one which is never going to be the topic of academic study, even though any first-hand accounts are rapidly being lost to history.

    The best explanation is that, for reasons of geographical remoteness and politics, Rhodesia had almost no exposure to externally-produced media. When the 20th century fell in the forest, the Rhodies simply didn’t hear it.

    Lends itself to an interesting thought experiment: What would American or European culture be like, without the continual leftwards nudging from the academic/media complex?

  202. @Talpiot/Ullastret
    Sorry for an OT so early on, but I tried to tell you people about this...

    With this person it isn't "nationalism for me, not for thee" it's "nationalism for no one".

    "OSF has funded multiple organizations over many years that deny Israel’s right to exist or seek to delegitimize the Jewish state, often by advancing anti-Semitic language and themes, as part of a deliberate strategy."

    http://www.thetower.org/3786-massive-soros-funding-behind-efforts-to-tar-israeli-democracy-leaks-show/

    Replies: @Maj. Kong, @schmenz, @snorlax

    Your comment ties in well with the post about Maryland – I’ve never really got the fixation Steve has about how progressives let NYC off the hook to have “racist” police policies but not Ferguson, the late Larry Auster’s concept of the “unprincipled exception,” and so on.

    Actual SJWs[1] will make no secret, indeed, will loudly proclaim their demands that New York immediately be surrendered to criminals.

    Mike Bloomberg might have “unprincipled exceptions,” but it’s a real stretch to say he’s an SJW (he’d be one of the first up against the wall), and an even bigger one to say he represents the country’s ideological direction. If the polls are anything to go on, the next and presumably every future President will make Mike Bloomberg look like Milo Yiannopoulos.

    Indeed, far from being ignored, NYC is the number one target, the City of the World’s Desire, the Constantinople, the Rome, the Paris, the Stalingrad when it comes to the anti-police campaign.

    It is the central focus of the propaganda – beloved-elder-statesman-Al-Sharpton, the repeat-it-often-enough-it-becomes-true mantra that “broken windows” tactics are “discredited,” the whole leaded gasoline theory from a few years ago, the alleged post-Giuliani drop in “authenticity” and “soul,” the “stop and frisk” lawsuits and concurrent trashing of Bloomberg on his way out,[2] the election of and brouhahas involving Bill de Blasio, the entire Eric Garner thing — I could go on but this is a hell of a run-on sentence already.

    Even Ferguson isn’t really about Ferguson, or even flyover country. It’s about providing a steady stream of propaganda for the New York Times devotees, most concentrated in, you only get one guess…

    The goal is still New York. But they don’t want to show their cards too quickly.[3] If they go full-out frontal assault, with riots and DoJ consent decrees, they’re going to risk a backlash. New York is big and important enough that when there’s a sufficiently strong backlash, everyone everywhere is going to hear about it, and that can be enough to slow or reverse the best-made plans.

    Last time there was a backlash to NYC crime that everyone heard about,[4] the police/vigilante/crime genre took over the big and small screens for two decades, the word “liberal” became a term of abuse, Nixon and Reagan got elected and reelected, and, not least, Koch/Giuliani/Bloomberg spent a collective 32 years in Gracie Mansion.

    What St. Louis, or St. Trayvon’s Central Florida haunts, or Baltimore, or Baton Rouge or even Staten Island[5] all have in common that they have no national media organs to speak of, few of their residents share the same social networks as NYT readers, and those few who do are protected from crime by affluence.

    The NYT can feel safe engaging its readers in a years-long struggle session pertaining to the high crimes occurring in suburban St. Louis, because even if they’ve totally trashed the place afterwards, their readers are never going to hear of it, and if they do they won’t care.

    Such places thus offer a risk-free propaganda opportunity, strengthening the left’s chances of Lindsay/Beame/Dinkins revanche not by diktat, a la the Warren Court, but by simply persuading the Nice White Boys and Ladies to dig their own graves. Seems to be going swimmingly so far.

    [1] And even, for the most part, ordinary Democrats, though this is related to the distinction between the two groups gradually disappearing.

    [2] Note how national media outlets uncharacteristically amplified the voices of conservative/libertarian mockers of Bloomberg’s smoking bans, soda tax etc instead of running interference for him.

    [3] At least until this year’s election or maybe 2020 seals the deal.

    [4] Yes, there were huge crime issues in many cities, but they didn’t and don’t have anything remotely near the media pull that New York does. Small-town and suburban America – most of the country – generally never had significant issues with crime; the zeitgeist there was set by whatever plausible-sounding echoes emanated from NYC.

    [5] Plenty of New Yorkers have visited Baltimore or Orlando more times than they have Staten Island.

  203. @Jack D
    @Brutusale

    Illinois and PA do OK also. You have to look not just at percentages but at raw numbers. PA and IL have just as many Jews as Maryland but a large overall population so that lowers the %. You also have to look at how Jews are concentrated - for example in PA they are mostly clustered around Philadelphia and in IL around Chicago (including the suburban areas), where they are a much higher % than the state average would indicate. The University of Pennsylvania, for example, is around 1/4 Jewish. Generally speaking any endeavor requiring high IQ in the US will run around 20 or 25% Jewish (Nobel prize winners, Field Medal winners, etc.) , at least until recently. Asians are rapidly taking their place in the STEM fields but Hollywood, law, etc. still remain pretty heavily Jewish because Asians aren't that great on verbal IQ.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Brutusale

    I would imagine the urban areas of any state would have 3-4 times the Jews as its ‘burbs and rural areas. At least, if my Jewish friends are any guide, until it’s time to send the kids to school. When that comes around, they’re as minority-averse as the rest of us.

    My two best Jewish friends moves when their oldest was a year away from school: one from Mission Hill to Weston and the other from Jamaica Plain to Needham. Funny thing is that both areas have been substantially gentrified since they left.

  204. iSteveFan says:
    @Corvinus
    @iSteveFan

    "To be fair they do vote for the same party in numbers no other group does, unless you include populations under one-party rule."

    As do white evangelical millennials (adults under 34), so what's your point?

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @res

    As do white evangelical millennials (adults under 34),

    What percentage do white evangelical millennials vote for one party? Do they vote in similar bloc-like fashion as blacks?

    what’s your point?

    The point is blacks, no matter where they live in the country or their economic background, vote remarkably alike. For a population of 40 million-plus that is not normal. Is there another population group anywhere in the free world that votes as one-sided like they do?

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @iSteveFan

    "The point is blacks, no matter where they live in the country or their economic background, vote remarkably alike. For a population of 40 million-plus that is not normal."

    Don't forget that extremely religious bible thumping Black Christians vote Democrat at the same high monolithic rate as Black Atheists and Black Homosexuals. This is indeed not normal. Why do extremely religious Black Christians vote for the anti-Christian and pro-Muslim party at a rate of over 95 percent?

    You don't see extremely religious Orthodox and Hasidic Jews voting for the pro-Muslim party at a rate of over 95 percent.

  205. @iSteveFan
    @Corvinus


    As do white evangelical millennials (adults under 34),
     
    What percentage do white evangelical millennials vote for one party? Do they vote in similar bloc-like fashion as blacks?

    what’s your point?
     
    The point is blacks, no matter where they live in the country or their economic background, vote remarkably alike. For a population of 40 million-plus that is not normal. Is there another population group anywhere in the free world that votes as one-sided like they do?

    Replies: @Jefferson

    “The point is blacks, no matter where they live in the country or their economic background, vote remarkably alike. For a population of 40 million-plus that is not normal.”

    Don’t forget that extremely religious bible thumping Black Christians vote Democrat at the same high monolithic rate as Black Atheists and Black Homosexuals. This is indeed not normal. Why do extremely religious Black Christians vote for the anti-Christian and pro-Muslim party at a rate of over 95 percent?

    You don’t see extremely religious Orthodox and Hasidic Jews voting for the pro-Muslim party at a rate of over 95 percent.

  206. @avraham
    @Wilkey

    This is the first comment that accurately describes my feelings. I grieved me when I saw the country being flooded by blacks. Then it grieved me even more when I saw it being overrun by Muslims. Then the last straw was to see the Jews being blamed for it all. The people that brought in the blacks were not Jewish; they were Southern Businessmen. And the people that flooded the country with Muslims were not Jewish. The Jews are simply the most convenient scapegoat for what White Anglo Saxon Protestants did to themselves.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Hippopotamusdrome, @Bleuteaux

    If we’re talking raw numbers, this seems definitely true. Take any major monopoly corporation and there are hundreds or thousands of upper level management along with investors for whom driving up GDP is the sole economic and social priority. I think the average white elitist businessman is also all too happy to destroy the social infrastructure of anyone below him who might compete with himself or his family in future generations.

  207. @Whiskey
    One of the other frustrating things about the Alt-Right is a blindness to the power of the media. Steve is one example of this, in that he's expecting the media to do the right thing or even care about the Milwaukee anti White riots and White (women) being beaten for being White.

    The media neither cares nor wants White male viewers. Why would they, when Women make or influence 85% of consumer purchases. White male oriented commercials stand out -- only the fast food chains Carl's Jr. and Jack-in-the-Box make what amounts to male-oriented commercials.

    The rest of the media is a stew of White professional female, and Black/Hispanic/Muslim toxic idiocy, that goes over very well with their target audience. Look at ESPN -- it lost from 2011 to 2016 (start of the year) 10 million subscribers, from 100 million to 90 million.

    Does ESPN care? Of course not, they will continue to be MSNBC with sports, as Ed Driscoll called them, and go full SJW, "Caitlyn" Jenner, etc. because they are made up of people who spent their entire professional lives making infotainment catering the prejudices and likes of Professional White women. Meanwhile Disney make so much money off Animated Princess movies, Marvel/Star Wars action figures, and rides that they can subsidize money losing stuff catering to White Professional women for decades to come.

    Unless the Alt-Right gets its act together and helps the Bernie types legalize piracy. The number one thing to do to destroy the TV infotainment business is make entirely legal, by grass roots campaigning, piracy and torrent sites and the like. Infotainment has been able to make a lot of money and cross-subsidize its anti-White male stuff by having such a high margin on female infotainment. If piracy is legal and safe, "for the people," then such a strategy becomes unsustainable -- to keep the money flowing in for Entertainment expenses: hookers, male prostitutes, drugs, rehab treatments, etc. Entertainment people would have to appeal to ...

    White men.

    But that won't happen without a solid understanding of the economic underpinnings of the current system and a sustained, years-long effort to destroy that foundation.

    There is a reason every White First World nation is headed by a corrupt, crony-ist, incompetent and highly feminine leadership class. And why those without mass female consumerism are largely absent that phenomena: Eastern Europe, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan.

    White Professional women love anti-nationalist, semi-feudal, cronyist, corrupt, incompetent, drama-ridden, crisis mode government that handwrings over reality intruding into fantasy like they love Game of Thrones or the Good Wife. Its why the West is overrun by aging, sick, incompetent relatives of past leaders like Hillary, or the incompetent, effeminate son of a former leader (Trudeau) or the aging spinster anti-nationalist driven by tingles like Merkel. And why Japan for better or worse is not.

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @Lagertha

    Love this! so good, so true.

  208. @Gross Terry
    @Wilkey

    feudalism was a reaction to a collapse in central authority / currency, by forming customary relationships of economic support for protection.

    Our current system is one of hyper centralization of the monopole city at the expense and neglect of the periphery... its late empire, not young feudalism. We'll get feudalism when the dollar bounces and the army deserts.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    feudalism was a reaction to a collapse in central authority / currency, by forming customary relationships of economic support for protection.

    Our current system is one of hyper centralization of the monopole city at the expense and neglect of the periphery… its late empire, not young feudalism.

    Exactly. I’m tired of seeing this term misused so badly.

  209. @Corvinus
    @iSteveFan

    "To be fair they do vote for the same party in numbers no other group does, unless you include populations under one-party rule."

    As do white evangelical millennials (adults under 34), so what's your point?

    Replies: @iSteveFan, @res

    As do white evangelical millennials (adults under 34), so what’s your point?

    I assume you are referring to this: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/14/us/donald-trump-white-evangelical-voters-poll.html ?
    75% (not sure why Pew lumped the center category with the R’s) is quite a bit less than the ~95% typical black D vote (~3-4x greater proportion of evangelical D votes than black R votes).
    This poll shows Trump polling at 8% among blacks: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/trump-faces-hurdle-minority-voters-clinton-maintains-lead-poll-shows-n636061

    Let’s expand the conversation a bit and look at the history of the last few elections. From http://www.pewforum.org/2012/11/07/how-the-faithful-voted-2012-preliminary-exit-poll-analysis/
    If you take a look at the table there you’ll notice that the group closest in voting pattern percentage (except for being opposite) to white evangelicals is Jews. Blacks vote significantly more single party than any other group. Since 2000 the only election where blacks voted more than 7% for a Republican president was 2004 (why then?) when they voted 13% for Bush. Contrast that to evangelicals who never voted less than 20% Democratic and Jews who never voted less than 20% Republican. Mormons were only tabulated in 2004 and 2012 apparently, but there they voted about 80/20 R/D.

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