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New Hampshire, currently being featured as too white and thus needing a dose of diversity good and hard, ranks third among the 50 states in both 8th grade reading and math on the federal NAEP school achievement test.

Math:

Screenshot 2018-07-28 23.16.26

Reading:

Screenshot 2018-07-28 23.15.44

DODEA are the Department of Defense military base schools for the children of servicemen and women. They always do quite well, in part because the military doesn’t allow virtually any recruits who score below the 30th percentile on the g-loaded AFQT test.

In FBI crime stats, New Hampshire has the lowest homicide rate in the country.

 
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  1. What’s the Matter with New Hampshire

    Not the name anyway.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @eah


    Austin’s namesake, Stephen F. Austin — also referred to as the "father of Texas" — opposed efforts by Mexico to abolish slavery in the Tejas province, saying freed slaves would become “vagabonds, a nuisance and a menace,” the newspaper noted.
     
    Farsighted lad, wasn't he.

    the Equity Office's report notes:

    “It is also important to acknowledge that nearly all monuments to the Confederacy and its leaders were erected without a true democratic process. People of color often had no voice and no opportunity to raise concerns...”
     

    Hey! Guess what...I know exactly what that feels like. Everyone happy now?

    Replies: @eah, @Jack D, @Prester John

    , @BenKenobi
    @eah

    I want to say this is the point where the shitlib Ouroboros has finally reached its tail, but I’m not quite certain.

    , @flyingtiger
    @eah

    Franklin Pierce was the only president New Hampshire ever produced. On the day of the battle of Gettysburg, Pierce made a speech about why he supports the Confederacy. NH always seemed a part of Dixie.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    , @Joe Sweet
    @eah

    Poztin?

    , @DrW
    @eah

    Why do you have that picture there? That picture has nothing to do with New Hampshire.

  2. Anonymous[324] • Disclaimer says:

    “the military doesn’t allow virtually any recruits who score below the 30th percentile on the g-loaded AFQT test.”

    I’ve read things like this but have never seen anything official about it. Is this a “The rumor is that ….” level thing, or can you cite an official document or regulation about the minimum test score required?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    These are the figures as of a half decade ago:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/almost-100-million-people-arent-smart/

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    I was educated at DODEA schools up to my freshman year in high school, then transferred to a civilian HGM magnet school without difficulty. DODEA students, whatever their race or ethnic background, are pretty squared away.
    This comment from the link Steve provided is still operative, btw, only more so.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Steve
    @Anonymous

    For the army, it would be AR 601-210
    I am a former Recruiter of the Year for New England Recruiting BN. I was stationed in NH. I won't go into every detail, because I'm typing on a phone, but here are the basics.

    AFQT scores from 1-99. The first 5 sections of the ASVAB determine this score. It is all math and English.

    The are breakdowns

    Alpha 50-99 (cat 1 & 2)
    Bravo 1-49 (cat 3 & 4 & 5)

    The only Bravos that routinely enter the Army are 31 and higher. There is a direct correlation between the QT and future success.

    To get in with less than a 50, you need a HS Diploma. Dropouts need over 50 and don't receive bonuses.

    Sometimes they are desperate and open up to Cat 4s. 21-30.

    This can change at anytime depending on needs of the Army to fill training seats.

    In 3 years, I saw Cat 4 open once. A recruiter put in a Downey. He had gotten s special ed HS Diploma, and somehow scored a 21. He shipped to basic, but was sent home later. Yes, the recruiter got credit for the contract, and we laughed our asses off.

    Navy, Chairforce, Marines, and Coasties all get to adjust their numbers as they see fit.

    No one ever goes below 20, to my knowledge, because those people are basically considered untrainable retards.

    That means 20% of HS grads in the USA are considered too retarded to even be considered as recruits into the military.

  3. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    What’s the Matter with New Hampshire?

    It’s making the rest of us look bad. Not to mention our theories.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Anonymous

    I have two cousins who moved to NH from NY and NJ. They and their families are contributing to NH’s horribly white record of hard work, peaceful conduct, neighborliness and charity rather than big coercive government, and individual liberty and responsibility.

    And by the way, they are all proudly among Hillary’s Deplorables.

  4. Eureka! Untrammeled, virgin magic dirt! And they said that we were well past peak magic dirt, that we would be reduced to fracking for what little is left. But there is a whole state full of it.

  5. • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @eah

    Increased Long-term welfare caseloads are not any part of a State’s “economic engine.”

    Increased physical danger and increased spending on police, prosecutors, prisons, parole officers, and car and home insurance, do not help the State’s economic engine to keep running well either.

    , @Ben tillman
    @eah

    Screw "per capita". It's nowhere close to true on an absolute basis. Less than a third of welfare recipients in this country are white.

    , @pyrrhus
    @eah

    So the "economic engine" of New Hampshire can't move forward without a lot of low IQ, welfare seeking minorities?

    Replies: @eah

  6. @Anonymous
    "the military doesn’t allow virtually any recruits who score below the 30th percentile on the g-loaded AFQT test."

    I've read things like this but have never seen anything official about it. Is this a "The rumor is that ...." level thing, or can you cite an official document or regulation about the minimum test score required?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Steve

    These are the figures as of a half decade ago:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/almost-100-million-people-arent-smart/

  7. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah
    What's the Matter with New Hampshire

    Not the name anyway.

    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1023399984421584898

    Replies: @Anonymous, @BenKenobi, @flyingtiger, @Joe Sweet, @DrW

    Austin’s namesake, Stephen F. Austin — also referred to as the “father of Texas” — opposed efforts by Mexico to abolish slavery in the Tejas province, saying freed slaves would become “vagabonds, a nuisance and a menace,” the newspaper noted.

    Farsighted lad, wasn’t he.

    the Equity Office’s report notes:

    “It is also important to acknowledge that nearly all monuments to the Confederacy and its leaders were erected without a true democratic process. People of color often had no voice and no opportunity to raise concerns…”

    Hey! Guess what…I know exactly what that feels like. Everyone happy now?

    • Replies: @eah
    @Anonymous

    Not too much talk of a "melting pot" anymore, is there?

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Soviet_censorship_with_Stalin2.jpg/250px-Soviet_censorship_with_Stalin2.jpg

    An example of how the picture was altered again and again after each person fell out of favor with Joseph Stalin.

    , @Jack D
    @Anonymous


    freed slaves would become “vagabonds, a nuisance and a menace"
     
    The racist Austin could not have been more wrong. Blacks turned out to be mostly supergeniuses like Tennessee Coats, Neil Grassy Tyson, the black woman from NASA who got us to the moon, and that guy from Wakanda. It's amazing how racism totally blinded him to the magnificent potential of the freed slaves, who only 1 generation later were so academically accomplished that Harvard had to institute quotas to prevent itself from becoming overwhelmingly black.

    And as for menace, the Texas prisons are just filled with crackers, but it is rare to ever see a black criminal unless he is in for some complex white collar fraud.

    , @Prester John
    @Anonymous

    What do they want to rename it? "Zapata"?

  8. Some Korean immigration would power NH to the top of the math chart, as well as in certain sports:

    https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2018/7/28/17626004/overwatch-league-finals-winner-season-one-london-spitfire

    • Replies: @Simple Psuedonym
    @Lot

    " sports" Korea is actually a middle income country, despite the marvels of Seoul. Absent the US defense umbrella it would be considerably poorer or a vassal of china, north korea.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Lot

    And synchronized dancing.

    https://youtu.be/V2hlQkVJZhE?t=1m13s

    Replies: @jim jones, @Alfa158, @tyrone, @Anon

    , @El Dato
    @Lot

    But ... how can one employ micro skills in Real Life?

    Even robodrone operators don't need them...

    , @Client 9
    @Lot

    Uh.. No thanks.

  9. Since this is a test of kids of active servicemen, the overall numbers may be interesting and meaningful, but what does a state-by-state breakdown mean? Servicemen move wherever the military tells them and are transferred very often, so do the New Hampshire numbers really represent children who were raised in New Hampshire?

    There also may be much a much smaller sample for bases in NH vs. those in Southern states, the ones that have loads of army and air bases, and sometimes navy bases.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    No, the DODEA schools, wherever they are, are treated, like Washington DC, as a separate state in this list of NAEP scores by states. So there are 52 entities listed: the 50 states, DC, and DODEA.

    Replies: @SporadicMyrmidon, @Achmed E. Newman, @penskefile

  10. @Achmed E. Newman
    Since this is a test of kids of active servicemen, the overall numbers may be interesting and meaningful, but what does a state-by-state breakdown mean? Servicemen move wherever the military tells them and are transferred very often, so do the New Hampshire numbers really represent children who were raised in New Hampshire?

    There also may be much a much smaller sample for bases in NH vs. those in Southern states, the ones that have loads of army and air bases, and sometimes navy bases.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    No, the DODEA schools, wherever they are, are treated, like Washington DC, as a separate state in this list of NAEP scores by states. So there are 52 entities listed: the 50 states, DC, and DODEA.

    • Replies: @SporadicMyrmidon
    @Steve Sailer

    I remember, back in the 70's, learning a great deal in DoD schools. I was definitely learning. Probably not as much as I subsequently learned at various select public schools near DC, but I was aware of my own learning.

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    Aha, I didn't see the DODEA listed as the separate row, cause I didn't look closely enough. I'd thought from your text, that these were breakdowns by state of the different DODEA schools. Could you please whim my comment #9, if possible?

    Replies: @dearieme

    , @penskefile
    @Steve Sailer


    the DODEA schools, wherever they are
     
    As a product of DOD schools myself, I'm pretty sure they are only located overseas. In the US, our local schools - even if located on base - were run by the local school district.

    In Germany, our schools were run by USDESEA. Members of my family (not me unfortunately) won multiple USDESEA tennis championships during the early 1970's. Kind of like being the North Dakota state champs!

    Good facilities (for the time), good teachers, not much in the way of disciplinary issues.
  11. @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    No, the DODEA schools, wherever they are, are treated, like Washington DC, as a separate state in this list of NAEP scores by states. So there are 52 entities listed: the 50 states, DC, and DODEA.

    Replies: @SporadicMyrmidon, @Achmed E. Newman, @penskefile

    I remember, back in the 70’s, learning a great deal in DoD schools. I was definitely learning. Probably not as much as I subsequently learned at various select public schools near DC, but I was aware of my own learning.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @SporadicMyrmidon

    Because it's Sunday:

    The late Ted Dabney, cofounder of Atari, reminisces:

    Garcia: Okay, so when did you first find yourself being interested in— I mean, that was sort of the genesis, but—

    Dabney: Well, from that school, I decided I really did want to get an education so I went to Polytechnic [High School]. You know where Poly used to be?

    Garcia: No, actually.

    Dabney: Right across the street from Kezar Stadium.

    Garcia: Oh, over there. Okay.

    Dabney: Yeah, and they’re both gone now, but I went to Polytechnic and tried to get some courses there and didn’t do a real good job getting what I wanted. I wasn’t a very good school, but it was either that or go to Mission High and I wasn’t going to go to Mission. I was beat up too many times there. I lived in the Mission district. I mean, in the Mission district, so those guys gave me a bad time. But at any rate, I wound up at San Mateo High and that’s where I actually graduated from, but in order to graduate my last year, I had to cram a bunch of courses because I had no algebra and I had flunked social studies or whatever they call it, American problems. I don’t remember what they called it, but I flunked that, had to take that again. Anyway, I lucked out. I got a ma th teacher named Walker at San Mateo that just blew me apart, just really good. I’m not saying I got a good grade. That wasn’t the point. The point was he taught us everything from calculus, interval calculus. He taught us determinants. You know what indeterminate is? I do. He taught us Boolean algebra. That was before computers. He was an amazing guy. Our tests, our final test was one question: Prove the binomial theorem by mathematical induction.

    Garcia: Wow. [This should not be hard for a high schooler; ed.]

    Dabney: That was our test. Anyway, so when I got out of high school, I was a surveyor. That was the only thing I knew so I got a job as a surveyor with McCandless and Jet in Menlo Park over near Palo Alto someplace. I don’t remember where they are now. But anyway, yeah, it was Menlo Park and became a surveyor. Within three weeks, I was Assistant Chief of Party, which was pretty good. I had a lot of experience with the State, even though it was just a summer job, but I was good. But then the winters came. (laughs) Guess what? There’s no work. (laughter) That blew me away. All of the sudden, no work, so I wound up getting laid off. That’s when I decided to join the Marine Corps.

    Garcia: Oh, okay. And how long were you in the Marines?

    Dabney: Three years, three months and 24 days.

    Garcia: Pretty accurate on that. (laughter)

    Dabney: That one I know.

    Garcia: Did they have you working in—

    Dabney: I told them. When I joined the Marine Corps, I don’t care what it is, I want a Class A school, any of them. I don’t care whether it’s aircraft maintenance and repair. I don’t care if it’s electronics. Whatever it is, I want a Class A school. He said fine. So I went to boot camp in San Diego, wound up getting in trouble and the DI gave me a bad time and thought I wasn’t going to get to school and I wound up in an artillery outfit, 10th Marines in Camp Pendleton. But then we were out on an exercise and all these guys were talking about being able to sign up for electronics course. Okay, okay. Anyway, so when we got back, I went over to talk to him. He said, “Okay, you can sign up for the course but you gotta extend your enlistment for a year.” I had a three-year enlistment. I had to extend it for four years, which was fine. I got the school, wound up at Treasure Island for 16 weeks. (laughs) That was good, that was good. Then wound up in San Diego, MCRD, for another electronics course and that was put on by Collins [Likely Collins Radio Company; Ed.]. Collins, you know, pretty sharp dudes, and I kept asking them questions like, here they show up with schematics. And I said, “How do you know that’s a 100k resistor? How do you know that? How come that was a 2k resistor?” That kind of stuff, started asking these kind of questions. These guys loved these questions. They explained to me why and I didn’t understand anything they were saying. (laughter) But I learned a lot of jargon, like time-domain reflectometry and it was a radio relay thing so there was this— I forgot the terms now, but anyway, it was a multiplex audio system, so when I got out of the Marine Corps. I got out early because I signed up for San Francisco State and so they accepted me, which meant I got to get out early, but I knew I couldn’t go because I couldn’t afford it and I wasn’t smart enough. (laughter) So anyway, I wound up with a job at Bank of America and the way I got in there was I had all this jargon. They really thought this meant something, and it did, except I didn’t know what. (laughs)

    Garcia: Now, this would’ve been about ’58, ’59?

    Dabney: That was ’59, yeah.

    From: Oral History of Samuel F. (Ted) Dabney interviewed by: Chris Garcia; Recorded: July 16, 2012; Mountain View, California.

  12. eah says:

    …the military doesn’t allow virtually any recruits who score below the 30th percentile on the g-loaded AFQT test.

    AFGT Categories

    The official required minimum score varies slightly by branch of service — in general all the official minimums fall toward the lower end of category III-B (31st – 49th %-tile) — this seems low enough to avoid any ‘disparate impact’ issues — have the minimum scores/thresholds changed over time?

    • Replies: @Thomas
    @eah


    "...have the minimum scores/thresholds changed over time?"
     
    Sure. After the Cold War when all the services were shrinking, they all got more selective. At the height of the Iraq War, by contrast, they were allowed to recruit from Category IV (previously ineligible) in order to meet mission.
    , @Jack D
    @eah


    this seems low enough to avoid any ‘disparate impact’ issues
     
    This seems to be a side effect but I don't think it is the main driver. 1st of all, the thresholds are driven by need - they start at the top and dig down into the pool until they are fully staffed. If they are short handed because there is a war (a war has many effects on both supply and demand - you need more people in the military when you are fighting a war, some smart people who would enlist in a peacetime military stay away because they don't want to get killed, others are killed or wounded in the war itself) they reach deeper into the pool.

    2nd the military is an attractive career for blacks for various reasons so they are able to keep the services integrated using relatively high quality blacks. This may change as qualified blacks are ever more sought after in the civilian world.

    But putting the DoD schools in a comparison with the general population is unfair because the DoD schools by definition draw from a pre-screened (parental) population of people (especially blacks who are less than 13% of the general population but half of those under IQ 85) that excludes the low end. This is like computing the average height of two groups, where group A is randomly selected and group B excludes anyone whose father is less than 5'8" tall. Of course group B is going to have a higher average.

    Replies: @res, @Abe

  13. @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    No, the DODEA schools, wherever they are, are treated, like Washington DC, as a separate state in this list of NAEP scores by states. So there are 52 entities listed: the 50 states, DC, and DODEA.

    Replies: @SporadicMyrmidon, @Achmed E. Newman, @penskefile

    Aha, I didn’t see the DODEA listed as the separate row, cause I didn’t look closely enough. I’d thought from your text, that these were breakdowns by state of the different DODEA schools. Could you please whim my comment #9, if possible?

    • Replies: @dearieme
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "Could you please whim my comment #9, if possible?" Excellent: a new verb that's just one syllable long. I shall take it up.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  14. Steve,

    Off Topic but of interest:

    Another martyr to Political Correctness but from an unexpected source. Dov Bechofer, a resident radiologist at Montefiore Medical Center in the Bronx, has been placed “off-duty” for being a prolific commentator in what is described as a “white supremacist, neo-Nazi” web site. Among his transgressions were authoring “A Jewish Defense of Antisemitism” and favorably quoting Jared Taylor and sundry other Forbidden Thinkers.

    His father is a rabbi who has led the group “Orthodox Jews Against Racism and Discrimination”.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Dan Hayes

    Source please?

    , @snorlax
    @Dan Hayes

    The "white supremacist, neo-Nazi" website is VDare, btw.

    Replies: @Simple Psuedonym

    , @Jack D
    @Dan Hayes


    Dov Bechofer....has been placed “off-duty” for being a prolific commentator in what is described as a “white supremacist, neo-Nazi” web site.
     
    Funny, I don't remember any Dov Bechofer here. Does he use a pen name?
    , @Anonymous
    @Dan Hayes

    I got fired??? WHAT!!!

    , @Anonym
    @Dan Hayes

    Dov sounds like an awesome guy. Dov did nothing wrong!

    Some great advice here:

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/07/dov-bechhofer-did-nothing-wrong/


    Recognize the attack, remain calm, and realize that very few friends and coworkers will help you.
    Don’t try to reason with them: You are not dealing with rational people, but with raving beasts who will take every gesture of good will as a sign of weakness and will use everything you say against you.
    Do not apologize: Apologies are treated as evidence of guilt and invite intensified attacks.
    Accept your fate: Try to adopt a Stoic attitude of indifference about outcomes; focus simply on doing the right thing, which is to fight.
    Document their every word and action: Most organizations have rules for firing or disciplining people; know the rules; demand that they be followed; admit nothing; demand the accusers do all the work; get everything in writing, and get it signed.
    Do not resign! Don’t do the enemy’s work for them.
    Make the rubble bounce: Basically, this means counter-attack; do everything you can to raise the price of attacking you for your enemies and your employer. This is worth quoting at length: “Whether you survive the attempted purge or whether you don’t, it’s very important to observe who has defined himself as an ally, an enemy, or a neutral party during the process. The choices people make will pleasantly surprise you about as often as they disappoint you. Once everyone’s choices have been made clear, your task is simple. Target the enemy at every opportunity. Hit them wherever they show themselves vulnerable. Play as dirty as your conscience will permit. Undermine them, sabotage them, and discredit them. Be ruthless and show them absolutely no mercy. This is not the time for Christian forgiveness because these are people who have not repented, these are people who are trying to destroy you and are quite willing to harm your family and your children in the process. Take them down and take them out without hesitation. If you have any SJWs working under you, fire them. If you have an SJW relying upon you for something, play dumb and assure him that he’ll get it on time, then fail to deliver, all the while promising that it’s going to be done next week. Above all, understand that the normal rules of live and let live are no longer in effect. The more you disrupt their activities and their daily routine, the more difficult they will find it to purge you. Assume that you are on your way out — if you’ve followed the previous advice given, you should already have your landing zone prepared and are only waiting for the right moment to exit — and salt the earth. Leave devastation in your wake so that it will take weeks or even months for them to try to recover from the damage of your purging.”
    Start nothing, finish everything: Basically, don’t act out of anger; don’t initiate attacks, but when attacked, respond with disproportionate, overwhelming force.
     
  15. Anonymous[403] • Disclaimer says:

    Put it this way:

    There’s an old AEsop fable about a dog and a manger.

    Or to put it yet another way ‘Every sliver lining must have a cloud’ or ‘every ointment must have its fly’.
    The Greeks had a word for it ‘hubris’ – the gods, must, remind mortal man, every now and then, that there’s no such thing as earthly paradise, in order to stop the mortals getting above themselves.

    • Replies: @ifrank
    @Anonymous

    for every yin, a yang?

  16. @eah
    What's the Matter with New Hampshire

    Not the name anyway.

    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1023399984421584898

    Replies: @Anonymous, @BenKenobi, @flyingtiger, @Joe Sweet, @DrW

    I want to say this is the point where the shitlib Ouroboros has finally reached its tail, but I’m not quite certain.

  17. When will BLM demonstrations start in NH?

    The very existence of such a lode of unvibranium is intolerable.

    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @El Dato

    "When will BLM demonstrations start in NH?"

    They could try the Oregon Solution: festoon every other front lawn and storefront with pro-Diversity (((TM))) signage while simultaneously enjoying the Good Schools (TM) and Walkable Communities (TM) that magically spring forth wherever White people vastly majoritate.

    Whites did this after the BLM riots in Portlandia and it appears to have worked, even as Portlandia continues to Whiten by the hour.

  18. eah says:
    @Anonymous
    @eah


    Austin’s namesake, Stephen F. Austin — also referred to as the "father of Texas" — opposed efforts by Mexico to abolish slavery in the Tejas province, saying freed slaves would become “vagabonds, a nuisance and a menace,” the newspaper noted.
     
    Farsighted lad, wasn't he.

    the Equity Office's report notes:

    “It is also important to acknowledge that nearly all monuments to the Confederacy and its leaders were erected without a true democratic process. People of color often had no voice and no opportunity to raise concerns...”
     

    Hey! Guess what...I know exactly what that feels like. Everyone happy now?

    Replies: @eah, @Jack D, @Prester John

    Not too much talk of a “melting pot” anymore, is there?

    An example of how the picture was altered again and again after each person fell out of favor with Joseph Stalin.

  19. @eah
    ...the military doesn’t allow virtually any recruits who score below the 30th percentile on the g-loaded AFQT test.

    AFGT Categories

    The official required minimum score varies slightly by branch of service -- in general all the official minimums fall toward the lower end of category III-B (31st - 49th %-tile) -- this seems low enough to avoid any 'disparate impact' issues -- have the minimum scores/thresholds changed over time?

    Replies: @Thomas, @Jack D

    “…have the minimum scores/thresholds changed over time?”

    Sure. After the Cold War when all the services were shrinking, they all got more selective. At the height of the Iraq War, by contrast, they were allowed to recruit from Category IV (previously ineligible) in order to meet mission.

  20. eah says:

    How long before the SAT is ruled to have ‘disparate impact’?

    New SAT, Old Gaps on Race

    …what the College Board calls “benchmark” scores indicating that students have a 75 percent chance of earning a C or higher in various college courses. The table below…

    From the table: only 20% of “Black” and 31% of “Latino” students who took the test met the “benchmark” in both sections (“Reading and Writing” and “Mathematics”) — and that is just the students who took the test; one must presume they are among the brighter “Black” and “Latino” students.

    It seems likely that’s going to have a ‘disparate impact’ on the US generally/economically one day/eventually.

    • Replies: @Carbon blob
    @eah

    If colleges start to drop standardized test scores as a admission criterion en masse, employers will probably start filtering resumes by college major very, very aggressively.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @eah

    You’re right, and it already is having an adverse impact on our economy, government, and culture.

    And maybe off-topic a bit: Imagine the USA’s bottom 33% intellectually — mostly Africans and mestizo or Indio Latinos — against Russia’s bottom 33% in a prolonged conventional conflict where a much larger segment of the male population is called up.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Jack D
    @eah

    You missed the main point of the article. Blacks & Latinos have lower scores but Asians have higher scores than whites. And the Asian lead keeps growing. Soon we will be talking about the "gap" in white scores.

    I know that certain people here will attribute this to Asian cheating, but it can't all be cheating. And no it's not "cheating" to study very hard and be prepared for a test when that is how you approach life in general. S. Korea is going to pass a law limiting the workweek to 52 hrs/week because Koreans work too hard.

    Replies: @Nathan, @istevefan, @eah

    , @M_Young
    @eah

    The New New SAT will consist of the 100m , 200m, and long jump.

    Replies: @eah

    , @Ed
    @eah

    I think the 20% of blacks reaching the benchmark on SAT represents an improvement. I feel like the number has hovered around 15% in the past.

    Replies: @gregor

  21. What’s wring with NH?

    Chronic smugness.

    They’re good. They want to teach the Third World the art of being a living saint.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @22pp22

    “Nice white lady” syndrome may destroy NH yet. We might see future rape and theft victims holding up signs proclaiming their virtue “Refugees welcome” and “See no color” a la our suicidal pussy german friends.

    , @Lowe
    @22pp22

    I think you're confusing them with Vermont.

  22. In FBI crime stats, New Hampshire has the lowest homicide rate in the country.

    The stupid white liberals (and some conservatives) will take care of that.

    • Replies: @wrd9
    @Realist

    NH also has very permissive gun laws. ME and VT, too, along with very low homicide rates. Funny how they are very white as well. I hope there is a big pushback from citizens about diversifying the state, it'll only bring massive amounts of crime. If you drive up to North Conway or around Franconia Notch, you get the feeling of being in 1950s white America. A very good thing.

    Replies: @Realist

    , @lavoisier
    @Realist


    In FBI crime stats, New Hampshire has the lowest homicide rate in the country.
     
    And they are very comfortable with gun ownership as well.

    How did that happen????

    Is it possible, even conceivable, that some races are more responsible with gun ownership than are other races??

    Replies: @Realist

  23. “right-wing” — that’s bad, if I’m not mistaken…

  24. @SporadicMyrmidon
    @Steve Sailer

    I remember, back in the 70's, learning a great deal in DoD schools. I was definitely learning. Probably not as much as I subsequently learned at various select public schools near DC, but I was aware of my own learning.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Because it’s Sunday:

    The late Ted Dabney, cofounder of Atari, reminisces:

    Garcia: Okay, so when did you first find yourself being interested in— I mean, that was sort of the genesis, but—

    Dabney: Well, from that school, I decided I really did want to get an education so I went to Polytechnic [High School]. You know where Poly used to be?

    Garcia: No, actually.

    Dabney: Right across the street from Kezar Stadium.

    Garcia: Oh, over there. Okay.

    Dabney: Yeah, and they’re both gone now, but I went to Polytechnic and tried to get some courses there and didn’t do a real good job getting what I wanted. I wasn’t a very good school, but it was either that or go to Mission High and I wasn’t going to go to Mission. I was beat up too many times there. I lived in the Mission district. I mean, in the Mission district, so those guys gave me a bad time. But at any rate, I wound up at San Mateo High and that’s where I actually graduated from, but in order to graduate my last year, I had to cram a bunch of courses because I had no algebra and I had flunked social studies or whatever they call it, American problems. I don’t remember what they called it, but I flunked that, had to take that again. Anyway, I lucked out. I got a ma th teacher named Walker at San Mateo that just blew me apart, just really good. I’m not saying I got a good grade. That wasn’t the point. The point was he taught us everything from calculus, interval calculus. He taught us determinants. You know what indeterminate is? I do. He taught us Boolean algebra. That was before computers. He was an amazing guy. Our tests, our final test was one question: Prove the binomial theorem by mathematical induction.

    Garcia: Wow. [This should not be hard for a high schooler; ed.]

    Dabney: That was our test. Anyway, so when I got out of high school, I was a surveyor. That was the only thing I knew so I got a job as a surveyor with McCandless and Jet in Menlo Park over near Palo Alto someplace. I don’t remember where they are now. But anyway, yeah, it was Menlo Park and became a surveyor. Within three weeks, I was Assistant Chief of Party, which was pretty good. I had a lot of experience with the State, even though it was just a summer job, but I was good. But then the winters came. (laughs) Guess what? There’s no work. (laughter) That blew me away. All of the sudden, no work, so I wound up getting laid off. That’s when I decided to join the Marine Corps.

    Garcia: Oh, okay. And how long were you in the Marines?

    Dabney: Three years, three months and 24 days.

    Garcia: Pretty accurate on that. (laughter)

    Dabney: That one I know.

    Garcia: Did they have you working in—

    Dabney: I told them. When I joined the Marine Corps, I don’t care what it is, I want a Class A school, any of them. I don’t care whether it’s aircraft maintenance and repair. I don’t care if it’s electronics. Whatever it is, I want a Class A school. He said fine. So I went to boot camp in San Diego, wound up getting in trouble and the DI gave me a bad time and thought I wasn’t going to get to school and I wound up in an artillery outfit, 10th Marines in Camp Pendleton. But then we were out on an exercise and all these guys were talking about being able to sign up for electronics course. Okay, okay. Anyway, so when we got back, I went over to talk to him. He said, “Okay, you can sign up for the course but you gotta extend your enlistment for a year.” I had a three-year enlistment. I had to extend it for four years, which was fine. I got the school, wound up at Treasure Island for 16 weeks. (laughs) That was good, that was good. Then wound up in San Diego, MCRD, for another electronics course and that was put on by Collins [Likely Collins Radio Company; Ed.]. Collins, you know, pretty sharp dudes, and I kept asking them questions like, here they show up with schematics. And I said, “How do you know that’s a 100k resistor? How do you know that? How come that was a 2k resistor?” That kind of stuff, started asking these kind of questions. These guys loved these questions. They explained to me why and I didn’t understand anything they were saying. (laughter) But I learned a lot of jargon, like time-domain reflectometry and it was a radio relay thing so there was this— I forgot the terms now, but anyway, it was a multiplex audio system, so when I got out of the Marine Corps. I got out early because I signed up for San Francisco State and so they accepted me, which meant I got to get out early, but I knew I couldn’t go because I couldn’t afford it and I wasn’t smart enough. (laughter) So anyway, I wound up with a job at Bank of America and the way I got in there was I had all this jargon. They really thought this meant something, and it did, except I didn’t know what. (laughs)

    Garcia: Now, this would’ve been about ’58, ’59?

    Dabney: That was ’59, yeah.

    From: Oral History of Samuel F. (Ted) Dabney interviewed by: Chris Garcia; Recorded: July 16, 2012; Mountain View, California.

  25. Anonymous[275] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Off Topic but of interest:

    Another martyr to Political Correctness but from an unexpected source. Dov Bechofer, a resident radiologist at Montefiore Medical Center in the Bronx, has been placed "off-duty" for being a prolific commentator in what is described as a "white supremacist, neo-Nazi" web site. Among his transgressions were authoring "A Jewish Defense of Antisemitism" and favorably quoting Jared Taylor and sundry other Forbidden Thinkers.

    His father is a rabbi who has led the group "Orthodox Jews Against Racism and Discrimination".

    Replies: @Anonymous, @snorlax, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonym

    Source please?

  26. In FBI crime stats, New Hampshire has the lowest homicide rate in the country.

    Well, now, we can’t have that! Bring’em on in, one and all, from every dusky nation on earth, and let us equalize life for those New Hampshirians – good and hard!

  27. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Steve Sailer

    Aha, I didn't see the DODEA listed as the separate row, cause I didn't look closely enough. I'd thought from your text, that these were breakdowns by state of the different DODEA schools. Could you please whim my comment #9, if possible?

    Replies: @dearieme

    “Could you please whim my comment #9, if possible?” Excellent: a new verb that’s just one syllable long. I shall take it up.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @dearieme

    I got it off someone else. His comment did get whimmed.

    I'd rather Steve err on the side he does though. Better to let 100 bad comments appear, than letting one good comment get whimmed, I always say.

  28. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:

    New Jersey and Massachusetts are super diverse, and also do well in education. Maybe race and diversity have less to do with education than you all thought?

    If I see that MA, NJ, NH, and VT are all doing well in education, chances are it has less to do with racial diversity and more to do with individual IQ, and people self-segregating on the lines of social class.

    After all, NH and VT have similar racial demographics to WV, but they are on opposite ends of the education spectrum.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Massachusetts Racial Breakdown of Population hide
    Racial composition 2013 Est.
    White (Non-Hispanic) 75.1%
    Hispanic 10.5%
    Black 8.1%
    Asian 6.0%

    Not exactly California.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Massachusetts

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @gregor
    @Anonymous

    DOD schools are also quite diverse, at least in my experience.

    But there’s no need to speculate using aggregate results when we have NAEP scores etc broken out explicitly by race. I would be very cautious drawing inferences based on aggregated state level information since the aggregation can obscure what’s going on. As an example, poorer states are more likely to vote Republican. This leads some to conclude that Republican support skews toward low income voters (“dumb rednecks”). But the individual data shows the opposite: that richer voters are more Republican. Similarly, of the states with the highest black population, Trump carried 9 of the top 12. Yet it is a mistake to conclude that Republicans therefore must do well with blacks.

    As I recall, Massachusetts whites (and the northeast in general) have very high scores. Statewide comparisons will misattribute variations in white performance to minority performance. And minority populations aren’t homogeneous.

    Replies: @res

  29. The old joke goes that there is not a lot of murder in New Hampshire…

    …but there are a hell of a lot of ‘hunting accidents.’

  30. @Anonymous
    Put it this way:

    There's an old AEsop fable about a dog and a manger.

    Or to put it yet another way 'Every sliver lining must have a cloud' or 'every ointment must have its fly'.
    The Greeks had a word for it 'hubris' - the gods, must, remind mortal man, every now and then, that there's no such thing as earthly paradise, in order to stop the mortals getting above themselves.

    Replies: @ifrank

    for every yin, a yang?

  31. Those Yankees cheat.

    New Hampshire brings in wealthy ringers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_Exeter_Academy
    Massachusetts is even worse with all the Asian high techies.

    NJ actually has a substantial Black population going back to colonial days. So if there was a place worth studying it might be NJ. How are the Somali immigrants doing in Minn? That might be an interesting test.

    DoDEA seems great as far as average test scores, on their WP page I did not see a list of Alumni. A far as nature and nurture DoDEA kids get on average the most of any US nationals. Are there examples of DoDEA kids making it into the tail of the bell curve in any field? It might be important as DoDEA students are almost exclusively children of people, one parent of which was demonstrated to be on the right side of the bell curve, and physically fit. I also suspect that ordinary soldiers do not have the opportunity to marry and raise their kids on Okinawa or Bahrain, so DoDEA kids are a product of the further right of the bell curve. But do the DoDEA kids actually end up in the right tail?

  32. @Realist

    In FBI crime stats, New Hampshire has the lowest homicide rate in the country.
     
    The stupid white liberals (and some conservatives) will take care of that.

    Replies: @wrd9, @lavoisier

    NH also has very permissive gun laws. ME and VT, too, along with very low homicide rates. Funny how they are very white as well. I hope there is a big pushback from citizens about diversifying the state, it’ll only bring massive amounts of crime. If you drive up to North Conway or around Franconia Notch, you get the feeling of being in 1950s white America. A very good thing.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @wrd9


    If you drive up to North Conway or around Franconia Notch, you get the feeling of being in 1950s white America. A very good thing.
     
    Probably the last great epoch in American history.
  33. In other words, NH doesn’t vote properly. Right now, it’s 50/50 Dem/Repub. That is NOT acceptable–not for a place with such a high percentage of whites.

    Consider Vermont. It’s 96% white. Due to its location, Vermont is almost always paired with NH when it comes to any comparison. Yet, it escapes NYT scrutiny for the simple fact that it votes properly Democrat.

    If you don’t necessarily think diversity is the greatest thing in the world, then you need to appreciate the genius behind various progressive enclaves scattered throughout the country. Consider:

    Portland OR (78% white w/ 6% black)
    Boulder CO (88% (!) white)
    Portland ME (84% white)
    [Hell, even a complicated city like San Fran is only 6% black.]

    Now, imagine that these cities had voted strongly Republican in recent elections. Vox and the NYT would be demanding that SJWs and Antifa storm the gates.

    It’s funny how it works–the best way to avoid any of the inconveniences of diversity is to yowl for diversity…AND…’saving the planet from the ravages of climate change’.

    ‘Of course we want more diversity. But climate change!
    And, yes–Low income housing is wonderful. But the carbon footprint concerns us. Perhaps it would be better to utilize the low income housing that’s already available in other cities.
    And sure it would be nice to have affordable food options for people of color. But we’re concerned about all those straws. We must Stop The Straws!

  34. I can think of at least one old statue in NH which is probably only still standing because it is a white state.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @songbird


    I can think of at least one old statue in NH which is probably only still standing because it is a white state.

     

    Hannah Dustin statue?

    It is a lovely statue that speaks to the strength and courage of motherhood and womanhood.

    Hannah Dustin escaped from some hostile Asians that had got to the continent between Asia and Europe about 10,ooo years or so ago. They call these Asians by the name of Native Americans now.

    Beautiful Statue Of A Brave Woman:

    https://twitter.com/mrsmuraco23/status/910212165243670529

    Replies: @songbird

  35. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Off Topic but of interest:

    Another martyr to Political Correctness but from an unexpected source. Dov Bechofer, a resident radiologist at Montefiore Medical Center in the Bronx, has been placed "off-duty" for being a prolific commentator in what is described as a "white supremacist, neo-Nazi" web site. Among his transgressions were authoring "A Jewish Defense of Antisemitism" and favorably quoting Jared Taylor and sundry other Forbidden Thinkers.

    His father is a rabbi who has led the group "Orthodox Jews Against Racism and Discrimination".

    Replies: @Anonymous, @snorlax, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonym

    The “white supremacist, neo-Nazi” website is VDare, btw.

    • Replies: @Simple Psuedonym
    @snorlax

    No, they don't permit comments. Counter Currents if I recall.

  36. @Lot
    Some Korean immigration would power NH to the top of the math chart, as well as in certain sports:

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/WKn124D9m393oi7b2IfshegIS-M=/1400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11838003/1006862548.jpg


    https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2018/7/28/17626004/overwatch-league-finals-winner-season-one-london-spitfire

    Replies: @Simple Psuedonym, @Almost Missouri, @El Dato, @Client 9

    ” sports” Korea is actually a middle income country, despite the marvels of Seoul. Absent the US defense umbrella it would be considerably poorer or a vassal of china, north korea.

  37. @snorlax
    @Dan Hayes

    The "white supremacist, neo-Nazi" website is VDare, btw.

    Replies: @Simple Psuedonym

    No, they don’t permit comments. Counter Currents if I recall.

  38. OT – Atlantic Council “advisory council member” Muddassar Ahmed on the election of Imran Khan in Pakistan (a victory seemingly handed to him by the army, who closed polls and threw out count monitors from other parties).

    Khan was a famous cricketer and roue in his time, married Jemima Goldsmith among others.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/many-british-pakistanis-will-welcome-khan-s-victory-a3897861.html

    “I have never seen my fellow Pakistani Londoners so excited by the politics of their country. Our attitudes are normally somewhere between fatalist and ambivalent when it comes to the politics of Pakistan, and for good reason. But in recent months we’ve had our imaginations captured not only by Khan’s personality but by his policies. Last night thousands of Pakistani Londoners celebrated across the capital.”

  39. @Steve Sailer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    No, the DODEA schools, wherever they are, are treated, like Washington DC, as a separate state in this list of NAEP scores by states. So there are 52 entities listed: the 50 states, DC, and DODEA.

    Replies: @SporadicMyrmidon, @Achmed E. Newman, @penskefile

    the DODEA schools, wherever they are

    As a product of DOD schools myself, I’m pretty sure they are only located overseas. In the US, our local schools – even if located on base – were run by the local school district.

    In Germany, our schools were run by USDESEA. Members of my family (not me unfortunately) won multiple USDESEA tennis championships during the early 1970’s. Kind of like being the North Dakota state champs!

    Good facilities (for the time), good teachers, not much in the way of disciplinary issues.

  40. @Lot
    Some Korean immigration would power NH to the top of the math chart, as well as in certain sports:

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/WKn124D9m393oi7b2IfshegIS-M=/1400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11838003/1006862548.jpg


    https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2018/7/28/17626004/overwatch-league-finals-winner-season-one-london-spitfire

    Replies: @Simple Psuedonym, @Almost Missouri, @El Dato, @Client 9

    And synchronized dancing.

    • Replies: @jim jones
    @Almost Missouri

    Korean Pop perfectly illustrates the sterility of Asian thought, mechanical dancing compared to Western innovation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwAjcU2_maI

    Replies: @Dmitry

    , @Alfa158
    @Almost Missouri

    Wow that was weird. Are those girls Korean? What does it take to make yourself look that White? And it wasn’t an isolated case of just the lead dancer, the whole chorus was LARPing.
    As we start getting closer to practical genetic engineering of children, I wonder how tough it will be to isolate and modify the genes for eye color and melanin. In a hundred years will the world be full of Asian people with pale colored round eyes, honey colored hair, and vaguely Asian facial features like Japanese cartoon characters? That whole video was vaguely disturbing.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @AndrewR

    , @tyrone
    @Almost Missouri

    They score VERY hight …….. thanks for the case of yellow fever.

    , @Anon
    @Almost Missouri

    via Drudge

    http://www.unionleader.com/crime/massage-parlor-prostitution-on-the-rise-in-nh-20180729


    There are now 27 massage parlors in New Hampshire listed on just one website.

    They include Aqua Therapy in Londonderry, Asian Massage in Merrimack and Sunset Spa in Manchester.

    Ma* was the registered agent of Aqua Therapy until 2014, when it was transferred to Gui Hua Chen. Attempts to reach Chen were unsuccessful.
     

    (*as in Ken D. Ma, not "Ma's Apple Pie")

    Replies: @Jack D, @Almost Missouri

  41. The loon who wrote the NYTimes article is a good example of a common Yankee malady. Here’s Katharine Q. Seelye’ bio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Seelye

    The Yankee goes abroad and instantly becomes a citizen of the world, defending the world against her people. Their combination of self-loathing and universal fanaticism makes for a toxic mix as soon as they get out of their hives. Their women are most prone to this affliction. It’s why the Puritans were wife beaters and extremely patriarchal. They knew their women were crazy.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @The Z Blog

    So Seelye is of High WASP Arabist descent, like Steve Kerr, coach of the NBA Golden State team.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @Charles Pewitt

    , @Corvinus
    @The Z Blog

    "It’s why the Puritans were wife beaters and extremely patriarchal. They knew their women were crazy."

    Once again you lack context. Puritanism regarded men and women as spiritual equals. The men might be the church leaders, but women were believed to be more disciplined and more moral. Though they had no official standing, women exercised a lot of informal influence. As far as "wife beating" is concerned, that term did not enter the legal lexicon until the late 1800's. Prior to that glorious time period (at least in your eyes, although I sense that your wife wears the pants in your household, hence the triggering on your part), the Massachusetts Body Of Liberties (1641) stated that “Every married woman shall be free from bodily correction or stripes by her husband, unless it be in his own defense upon her assault". Later in that decade, that colony outlawed husband beating by wives. "The Puritans wished to prevent the family from becoming 'a sanctuary for cruelty and violence'", explains historian Elizabeth Pleck, a professor emerita at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, because the family formed the foundation of the colony, which hoped to set an example of religious devotion for the rest of the world.

    Are you this loony in real life as well?

  42. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Off Topic but of interest:

    Another martyr to Political Correctness but from an unexpected source. Dov Bechofer, a resident radiologist at Montefiore Medical Center in the Bronx, has been placed "off-duty" for being a prolific commentator in what is described as a "white supremacist, neo-Nazi" web site. Among his transgressions were authoring "A Jewish Defense of Antisemitism" and favorably quoting Jared Taylor and sundry other Forbidden Thinkers.

    His father is a rabbi who has led the group "Orthodox Jews Against Racism and Discrimination".

    Replies: @Anonymous, @snorlax, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonym

    Dov Bechofer….has been placed “off-duty” for being a prolific commentator in what is described as a “white supremacist, neo-Nazi” web site.

    Funny, I don’t remember any Dov Bechofer here. Does he use a pen name?

    • LOL: Dan Hayes
  43. @Anonymous
    What's the Matter with New Hampshire?

    It's making the rest of us look bad. Not to mention our theories.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    I have two cousins who moved to NH from NY and NJ. They and their families are contributing to NH’s horribly white record of hard work, peaceful conduct, neighborliness and charity rather than big coercive government, and individual liberty and responsibility.

    And by the way, they are all proudly among Hillary’s Deplorables.

  44. @eah
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjN7CG2U8AAWC4M.jpg

    https://twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/1023374937984126976

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Ben tillman, @pyrrhus

    Increased Long-term welfare caseloads are not any part of a State’s “economic engine.”

    Increased physical danger and increased spending on police, prosecutors, prisons, parole officers, and car and home insurance, do not help the State’s economic engine to keep running well either.

  45. @eah
    How long before the SAT is ruled to have 'disparate impact'?

    New SAT, Old Gaps on Race

    ...what the College Board calls "benchmark" scores indicating that students have a 75 percent chance of earning a C or higher in various college courses. The table below...

    From the table: only 20% of "Black" and 31% of "Latino" students who took the test met the "benchmark" in both sections ("Reading and Writing" and "Mathematics") -- and that is just the students who took the test; one must presume they are among the brighter "Black" and "Latino" students.

    It seems likely that's going to have a 'disparate impact' on the US generally/economically one day/eventually.

    Replies: @Carbon blob, @RadicalCenter, @Jack D, @M_Young, @Ed

    If colleges start to drop standardized test scores as a admission criterion en masse, employers will probably start filtering resumes by college major very, very aggressively.

  46. @eah
    How long before the SAT is ruled to have 'disparate impact'?

    New SAT, Old Gaps on Race

    ...what the College Board calls "benchmark" scores indicating that students have a 75 percent chance of earning a C or higher in various college courses. The table below...

    From the table: only 20% of "Black" and 31% of "Latino" students who took the test met the "benchmark" in both sections ("Reading and Writing" and "Mathematics") -- and that is just the students who took the test; one must presume they are among the brighter "Black" and "Latino" students.

    It seems likely that's going to have a 'disparate impact' on the US generally/economically one day/eventually.

    Replies: @Carbon blob, @RadicalCenter, @Jack D, @M_Young, @Ed

    You’re right, and it already is having an adverse impact on our economy, government, and culture.

    And maybe off-topic a bit: Imagine the USA’s bottom 33% intellectually — mostly Africans and mestizo or Indio Latinos — against Russia’s bottom 33% in a prolonged conventional conflict where a much larger segment of the male population is called up.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @RadicalCenter


    Imagine the USA’s bottom 33% intellectually — mostly Africans and mestizo or Indio Latinos
     
    This is not true. Because (for now) there are so many more whites than non-whites, whites still make up (slightly) more than 1/2 of the low IQ cohort.

    This graph should help you to visual this:

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PtP-9Hzfe9s/T5eRcTfFFMI/AAAAAAAAAaI/02XRuV-KVZE/s1600/bell%2Bcurve%2Bn.jpg

    The real difference is at the higher end - once you hit IQ 85 (the black peak), the black cohort tapers off and the # white people soars, so whites begin to vastly outnumber blacks (far in excess of their %'s in the population. At the high end the ratio is in the range of 100 to 1 or even more at supergenius levels - e.g. there has never been a black Fields Medal winner.

  47. @22pp22
    What's wring with NH?

    Chronic smugness.

    They're good. They want to teach the Third World the art of being a living saint.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Lowe

    “Nice white lady” syndrome may destroy NH yet. We might see future rape and theft victims holding up signs proclaiming their virtue “Refugees welcome” and “See no color” a la our suicidal pussy german friends.

  48. @eah
    How long before the SAT is ruled to have 'disparate impact'?

    New SAT, Old Gaps on Race

    ...what the College Board calls "benchmark" scores indicating that students have a 75 percent chance of earning a C or higher in various college courses. The table below...

    From the table: only 20% of "Black" and 31% of "Latino" students who took the test met the "benchmark" in both sections ("Reading and Writing" and "Mathematics") -- and that is just the students who took the test; one must presume they are among the brighter "Black" and "Latino" students.

    It seems likely that's going to have a 'disparate impact' on the US generally/economically one day/eventually.

    Replies: @Carbon blob, @RadicalCenter, @Jack D, @M_Young, @Ed

    You missed the main point of the article. Blacks & Latinos have lower scores but Asians have higher scores than whites. And the Asian lead keeps growing. Soon we will be talking about the “gap” in white scores.

    I know that certain people here will attribute this to Asian cheating, but it can’t all be cheating. And no it’s not “cheating” to study very hard and be prepared for a test when that is how you approach life in general. S. Korea is going to pass a law limiting the workweek to 52 hrs/week because Koreans work too hard.

    • Replies: @Nathan
    @Jack D

    https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/03/how-sophisticated-test-scams-from-china-are-making-their-way-into-the-us/474474/

    It doesn't have to "all" be cheating- widespread cheating can still skew the numbers, and most likely has.

    The DoD has shown us the way. All we have to do is encourage the average to above average to reproduce more, and the below average to maybe, you know, not do that. Unfortunately, the current system does the exact opposite.

    , @istevefan
    @Jack D


    Soon we will be talking about the “gap” in white scores.
     
    If they ever start to talk about the "gap" in white scores, it will only be to gloat and not to come up with a fix.

    And no it’s not “cheating” to study very hard and be prepared for a test when that is how you approach life in general. S. Korea is going to pass a law limiting the workweek to 52 hrs/week because Koreans work too hard.

     

    There are different approaches to education. I think what has prevailed in America for quite some time is the notion that education should not just be exclusively on academic subjects. That it must include other activities that promote teamwork, leadership and lead to a more well-rounded individual. Steve has often pointed out people like Neil Armstrong who seemed to embody this all-around development of body and mind, and who are capable of socializing with others as teammates or leaders.

    Asians to my mind don't embrace this and spend an inordinate amount of time cramming for tests. They are obviously intelligent, and their work ethic is admirable. But is this what we really want for our education system? Will this lead to the well-rounded individuals that we have prided ourselves on making? Or will this lead to an excess of introverted, socially awkward test takers?

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    , @eah
    @Jack D

    Dude, I didn't miss any "main point" -- I'm aware that Asians have higher mean scores than Whites; walking across the campus of my alma mater in CA, the high percentage of Asians never fails to shock me -- and sadden me: it saddens me because I know many deserving Whites are not there due to their marginally lower test scores -- here is my answer: the gap between the scores of Whites and Asians seems to make absolutely no difference in the quality of civilizations and institutions Whites and Asians are able to build (unlike the difference between Whites and Blacks) -- in fact, judging by immigration flows, Whites have created by far the highest quality and most desirable civilizations and institutions -- the White/Asian gap is of no practical significance -- unlike the altruism and generosity of Whites, which is in some ways disenfranchising their own children vis-a-vis admission to elite, competitive universities.

    Replies: @eah, @Vagabond

  49. @Jack D
    @eah

    You missed the main point of the article. Blacks & Latinos have lower scores but Asians have higher scores than whites. And the Asian lead keeps growing. Soon we will be talking about the "gap" in white scores.

    I know that certain people here will attribute this to Asian cheating, but it can't all be cheating. And no it's not "cheating" to study very hard and be prepared for a test when that is how you approach life in general. S. Korea is going to pass a law limiting the workweek to 52 hrs/week because Koreans work too hard.

    Replies: @Nathan, @istevefan, @eah

    https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/03/how-sophisticated-test-scams-from-china-are-making-their-way-into-the-us/474474/

    It doesn’t have to “all” be cheating- widespread cheating can still skew the numbers, and most likely has.

    The DoD has shown us the way. All we have to do is encourage the average to above average to reproduce more, and the below average to maybe, you know, not do that. Unfortunately, the current system does the exact opposite.

  50. I found this to be interesting:

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/ranking-the-states-from-most-to-least-corrupt/

    If New Hampshire just becomes more corrupt, will the diversity naturally trickle in?

  51. @eah
    ...the military doesn’t allow virtually any recruits who score below the 30th percentile on the g-loaded AFQT test.

    AFGT Categories

    The official required minimum score varies slightly by branch of service -- in general all the official minimums fall toward the lower end of category III-B (31st - 49th %-tile) -- this seems low enough to avoid any 'disparate impact' issues -- have the minimum scores/thresholds changed over time?

    Replies: @Thomas, @Jack D

    this seems low enough to avoid any ‘disparate impact’ issues

    This seems to be a side effect but I don’t think it is the main driver. 1st of all, the thresholds are driven by need – they start at the top and dig down into the pool until they are fully staffed. If they are short handed because there is a war (a war has many effects on both supply and demand – you need more people in the military when you are fighting a war, some smart people who would enlist in a peacetime military stay away because they don’t want to get killed, others are killed or wounded in the war itself) they reach deeper into the pool.

    2nd the military is an attractive career for blacks for various reasons so they are able to keep the services integrated using relatively high quality blacks. This may change as qualified blacks are ever more sought after in the civilian world.

    But putting the DoD schools in a comparison with the general population is unfair because the DoD schools by definition draw from a pre-screened (parental) population of people (especially blacks who are less than 13% of the general population but half of those under IQ 85) that excludes the low end. This is like computing the average height of two groups, where group A is randomly selected and group B excludes anyone whose father is less than 5’8″ tall. Of course group B is going to have a higher average.

    • Replies: @res
    @Jack D


    But putting the DoD schools in a comparison with the general population is unfair because the DoD schools by definition draw from a pre-screened (parental) population of people (especially blacks who are less than 13% of the general population but half of those under IQ 85) that excludes the low end.
     
    Right, but I think that justifies placing the DoD schools in a separate category so they don't skew the state numbers.

    I think it is worth considering whether the DoD schools also have an advantage in discipline for one or more of the following reasons:
    - Selected parents.
    - Military culture of discipline.
    - Effective levers (e.g. sanctions on parents or peer pressure) to change the behavior of kids who act out excessively.

    I don't have a sense of if/how the culture of learning is different in the DoD schools, but SporadicMyrmidon's comment is suggestive.

    One thing which struck me is the DoD schools doing better on reading than math. The difference is fairly small, but with sample sizes that large I think would be statistically significant. Is that just a matter of racial differences in verbal/math tilt combined with military demographics, or is there something more going on there?

    Does anyone know what the demographics of DoD schools look like compared to the US at large? Or the difference between career military and shorter service demographics? I assume the children of career military are overrepresented in the DoD schools (especially high school).

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @ScarletNumber, @Anonymous

    , @Abe
    @Jack D


    2nd the military is an attractive career for blacks for various reasons so they are able to keep the services integrated using relatively high quality blacks.
     
    Let’s not get all cuckly about the human capital quality of blacks in the armed forces. They are generally a cut above, yes, but ultimately they’re still black and their children regress to the black mean. Libertardians (among whose number I once could include myself) spent the last 20 years bashing nice white lady suburban school teachers as the Jimmy Hoffa-esque embodiment of corrupt Big Labor in order to uphold the lie that America’s crappy schools are the fault of something other than their crappy (largely NAM) student bodies. So let’s not go down the road of lionizing black service members as some Dennis Haysbert-esque (closet conservative!) vanguard with a great HBD -compliant, just-so-origin story.

    And if I sound bitter-well, yeah, I just learned my now-grown nephew who’s a bit of a screw-up as an adult was, as a brat in the well-past STRIPES-era Reagan military, sexually molested on-base by the kids of black service members.

    Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope, @Jack D

  52. @Anonymous
    @eah


    Austin’s namesake, Stephen F. Austin — also referred to as the "father of Texas" — opposed efforts by Mexico to abolish slavery in the Tejas province, saying freed slaves would become “vagabonds, a nuisance and a menace,” the newspaper noted.
     
    Farsighted lad, wasn't he.

    the Equity Office's report notes:

    “It is also important to acknowledge that nearly all monuments to the Confederacy and its leaders were erected without a true democratic process. People of color often had no voice and no opportunity to raise concerns...”
     

    Hey! Guess what...I know exactly what that feels like. Everyone happy now?

    Replies: @eah, @Jack D, @Prester John

    freed slaves would become “vagabonds, a nuisance and a menace”

    The racist Austin could not have been more wrong. Blacks turned out to be mostly supergeniuses like Tennessee Coats, Neil Grassy Tyson, the black woman from NASA who got us to the moon, and that guy from Wakanda. It’s amazing how racism totally blinded him to the magnificent potential of the freed slaves, who only 1 generation later were so academically accomplished that Harvard had to institute quotas to prevent itself from becoming overwhelmingly black.

    And as for menace, the Texas prisons are just filled with crackers, but it is rare to ever see a black criminal unless he is in for some complex white collar fraud.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
  53. New Hampshire is easily the most conservative New England state, well more so than their equally white neighbor Vermont. I think the main reason, if my memory of “Albiom’s Seed” is correct, is that NH is unlike its neighbors in that it has a lot of people descended from the Scots-Irish “Borderer” stock.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Hapalong Cassidy


    New Hampshire is easily the most conservative New England state, well more so than their equally white neighbor Vermont. I think the main reason, if my memory of “Albiom’s Seed” is correct, is that NH is unlike its neighbors in that it has a lot of people descended from the Scots-Irish “Borderer” stock.

     

    Derry and Londonderry and a lot of the English pioneers who settled New Hampshire were glad to be free of the English assholes in Boston and on the coast.

    New Jersey and New Hampshire had pockets of Scotch-Irish settlers. New Hampshire is the Tennessee of New England complete with a race track and English and Scotch-Irish settlers.

    Pockets of big loot in New Hampshire, just like where Trumpy was Tweeting from his golf club in New Jersey.

    Plutocrats like gravel roads to keep everybody else out, it ain't just about the horses.
  54. If unelected and largely unaccountable bureaucrats and NGOs carry out diversifying missions unnoticed- as Americans engage in unimportant things like surviving in the neoliberal jungle- we can take it to mean that American whites are o.k. with it. So shut up and if you guys have a problem I would remind you that many of you Murphys and Sullivans were regarded as identical to Australian Aborigines until Congress passed the Bing Crosby act making you white.

    Something smug…blah…blah… somebody once made a joke about my great-uncle Pavel Dimwitsky so that means more Arabs in Vermont is a good thing… blah… blah

  55. The best part is that if you do commit murder, the parole board of new Hampshire will wish you a happy birthday.

  56. res says:
    @Jack D
    @eah


    this seems low enough to avoid any ‘disparate impact’ issues
     
    This seems to be a side effect but I don't think it is the main driver. 1st of all, the thresholds are driven by need - they start at the top and dig down into the pool until they are fully staffed. If they are short handed because there is a war (a war has many effects on both supply and demand - you need more people in the military when you are fighting a war, some smart people who would enlist in a peacetime military stay away because they don't want to get killed, others are killed or wounded in the war itself) they reach deeper into the pool.

    2nd the military is an attractive career for blacks for various reasons so they are able to keep the services integrated using relatively high quality blacks. This may change as qualified blacks are ever more sought after in the civilian world.

    But putting the DoD schools in a comparison with the general population is unfair because the DoD schools by definition draw from a pre-screened (parental) population of people (especially blacks who are less than 13% of the general population but half of those under IQ 85) that excludes the low end. This is like computing the average height of two groups, where group A is randomly selected and group B excludes anyone whose father is less than 5'8" tall. Of course group B is going to have a higher average.

    Replies: @res, @Abe

    But putting the DoD schools in a comparison with the general population is unfair because the DoD schools by definition draw from a pre-screened (parental) population of people (especially blacks who are less than 13% of the general population but half of those under IQ 85) that excludes the low end.

    Right, but I think that justifies placing the DoD schools in a separate category so they don’t skew the state numbers.

    I think it is worth considering whether the DoD schools also have an advantage in discipline for one or more of the following reasons:
    – Selected parents.
    – Military culture of discipline.
    – Effective levers (e.g. sanctions on parents or peer pressure) to change the behavior of kids who act out excessively.

    I don’t have a sense of if/how the culture of learning is different in the DoD schools, but SporadicMyrmidon’s comment is suggestive.

    One thing which struck me is the DoD schools doing better on reading than math. The difference is fairly small, but with sample sizes that large I think would be statistically significant. Is that just a matter of racial differences in verbal/math tilt combined with military demographics, or is there something more going on there?

    Does anyone know what the demographics of DoD schools look like compared to the US at large? Or the difference between career military and shorter service demographics? I assume the children of career military are overrepresented in the DoD schools (especially high school).

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @res

    It’s about the college-educated population I suspect: People who tilt towards Math have lots of lucrative career options and won’t struggle to pass “weed out” classes in their major. College-educated people who tilt verbal and not towards Math are pretty much limited to going into teaching, nursing or taking gambles on law school or general business type degrees, both of which are not good ideas unless you come from a wealthy family with lots of connections. And verbally oriented men probably have fewer options than verbally oriented women. Hence they end up joining the military right out of college or dropping out for the military. I’ve seen this happen to many friends.

    Replies: @Allison

    , @ScarletNumber
    @res


    I think it is worth considering whether the DoD schools also have an advantage in discipline for one or more of the following reasons:
    - Selected parents.
    - Military culture of discipline.
    - Effective levers (e.g. sanctions on parents or peer pressure) to change the behavior of kids who act out excessively.
     
    This is what I was thinking. There is less tolerance for being an asshole in DoD schools.
    , @Anonymous
    @res


    I assume the children of career military are over-represented in the DoD schools (especially high school).
     
    I think this has to be true because one-and-dones who enlist after high school will be in their early 20s at EAOS. ROTC who leave after their initial obligation is over will be older, but probably still won't have school-age children. The only exception would be aviators with a 10-year initial obligation. It's a pretty sure bet that any older children in DoD schools will be the offspring of career personnel.
    I was educated at DoDEA Pacific schools in the '90s and my classmates were kids whose parents were veterans of the Viet Nam war, the now-forgotten Tanker War of the Reagan Administration and the Gulf war. So you are looking at individuals with long years of service who would not tolerate their kids imitating the behavior of slacker landlubbers.
  57. New Hampshire does have a very serious opioid problem, worse than almost anywhere else in the country.

  58. @eah
    What's the Matter with New Hampshire

    Not the name anyway.

    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1023399984421584898

    Replies: @Anonymous, @BenKenobi, @flyingtiger, @Joe Sweet, @DrW

    Franklin Pierce was the only president New Hampshire ever produced. On the day of the battle of Gettysburg, Pierce made a speech about why he supports the Confederacy. NH always seemed a part of Dixie.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @flyingtiger

    Pierce was something of an accidental candidate. If Levi Woodbury hadn’t died when he did, no one would have considered Pierce for president.

  59. In FBI crime stats, New Hampshire has the lowest homicide rate in the country.

    You can see how a state with those numbers despite some of the least restrictive gun laws in the country would make some people uncomfortable. Nothing they can’t fix a few thousand somalis though.

  60. @Lot
    Some Korean immigration would power NH to the top of the math chart, as well as in certain sports:

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/WKn124D9m393oi7b2IfshegIS-M=/1400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11838003/1006862548.jpg


    https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2018/7/28/17626004/overwatch-league-finals-winner-season-one-london-spitfire

    Replies: @Simple Psuedonym, @Almost Missouri, @El Dato, @Client 9

    But … how can one employ micro skills in Real Life?

    Even robodrone operators don’t need them…

  61. @22pp22
    What's wring with NH?

    Chronic smugness.

    They're good. They want to teach the Third World the art of being a living saint.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Lowe

    I think you’re confusing them with Vermont.

  62. Anonymous[157] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Off Topic but of interest:

    Another martyr to Political Correctness but from an unexpected source. Dov Bechofer, a resident radiologist at Montefiore Medical Center in the Bronx, has been placed "off-duty" for being a prolific commentator in what is described as a "white supremacist, neo-Nazi" web site. Among his transgressions were authoring "A Jewish Defense of Antisemitism" and favorably quoting Jared Taylor and sundry other Forbidden Thinkers.

    His father is a rabbi who has led the group "Orthodox Jews Against Racism and Discrimination".

    Replies: @Anonymous, @snorlax, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonym

    I got fired??? WHAT!!!

  63. In FBI crime stats, New Hampshire has the lowest homicide rate in the country.

    That’s very strange. New Hampshire has some of the least restrictive gun laws in the country. How can this be?

    Even stranger, two other New England states, Maine and Vermont, also have almost no regulation of gun ownership, and they also have very low homicide rates.

    Strangest of all, the three New England states with highly restrictive gun laws, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and Connecticut, have very high homicide rates, relative both to New England and all other states in the USA.

    What can be going on here?

  64. @El Dato
    When will BLM demonstrations start in NH?

    The very existence of such a lode of unvibranium is intolerable.

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    “When will BLM demonstrations start in NH?”

    They could try the Oregon Solution: festoon every other front lawn and storefront with pro-Diversity (((TM))) signage while simultaneously enjoying the Good Schools (TM) and Walkable Communities (TM) that magically spring forth wherever White people vastly majoritate.

    Whites did this after the BLM riots in Portlandia and it appears to have worked, even as Portlandia continues to Whiten by the hour.

  65. @Almost Missouri
    @Lot

    And synchronized dancing.

    https://youtu.be/V2hlQkVJZhE?t=1m13s

    Replies: @jim jones, @Alfa158, @tyrone, @Anon

    Korean Pop perfectly illustrates the sterility of Asian thought, mechanical dancing compared to Western innovation:

    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @jim jones

    In audio terms, Kpop - mostly boring copy of American pop music, with hotter girls, and regimented dancing (a little like North Korean culture).

    But Japanese pop has a distinctive sound and is original. Only Russian, North American, Japanese and Latin American pop has some distinctive sounds.

    European pop (if not including Russian), has no real original sound - it's impossible to distinguish from North American and Latin American. E.g. Swedish/English/French/Italian/Germany pop music - apart from language, it has nothing distinctive sounding.

    Russian and Japanese pop music represents an original sound and has some different melodies and arrangements, so you would know is Russian or Japanese pop music even without the words.

  66. @Almost Missouri
    @Lot

    And synchronized dancing.

    https://youtu.be/V2hlQkVJZhE?t=1m13s

    Replies: @jim jones, @Alfa158, @tyrone, @Anon

    Wow that was weird. Are those girls Korean? What does it take to make yourself look that White? And it wasn’t an isolated case of just the lead dancer, the whole chorus was LARPing.
    As we start getting closer to practical genetic engineering of children, I wonder how tough it will be to isolate and modify the genes for eye color and melanin. In a hundred years will the world be full of Asian people with pale colored round eyes, honey colored hair, and vaguely Asian facial features like Japanese cartoon characters? That whole video was vaguely disturbing.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Alfa158


    As we start getting closer to practical genetic engineering of children...
     
    That has about as much chance of ever happening as Kurzweil's singularity.

    I probably should point out that I meant that as a reductio since, alas, there are still plenty of people who actually believe in the stupid singularity.
    , @AndrewR
    @Alfa158

    Epicanthic fold removal surgery is very popular in Korea. And hair dye and colored contacts are inexpensive.

    Many people want to look different. White people obsess over tanning. Black people dye their hair blond. Old people dye their grey hair.

    That video is no more disturbing than your average American pop video. At least Koreans limit immigration to a reasonable extent.

    Replies: @Dmitry

  67. NH has low crime because it has a very high median age: http://time.com/5000792/youngest-oldest-us-states/

    Racial composition does affect crime rates, but since young unmarried males make up the vast, vast bulk of criminals, NH is ‘protected’ by its residents not having children. Not sure that’s a good strategy for the future, though.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    @anony-mouse

    "Racial composition does affect crime rates, "

    On what planet?

    , @istevefan
    @anony-mouse


    NH is ‘protected’ by its residents not having children.
     
    Surely during the post-WW2 Baby Boom New Hampshire residents were having children. How did the crime rate of New Hampshire in 1955 compare to the rest of the nation?
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    @anony-mouse

    I'm sorry, I originally read the "racial composition" sentence as "does not" instead of "does". My apologies.

  68. @eah
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjN7CG2U8AAWC4M.jpg

    https://twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/1023374937984126976

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Ben tillman, @pyrrhus

    Screw “per capita”. It’s nowhere close to true on an absolute basis. Less than a third of welfare recipients in this country are white.

  69. @Almost Missouri
    @Lot

    And synchronized dancing.

    https://youtu.be/V2hlQkVJZhE?t=1m13s

    Replies: @jim jones, @Alfa158, @tyrone, @Anon

    They score VERY hight …….. thanks for the case of yellow fever.

  70. Having lived in New Hampshire, one of its best features is that nobody’s ever hears of it or thought to move there. The hills are full of eccentric rugged white people with a distinctive culture who, while salty, would never steal from you, and once they warm up to you, will help you through thick and thin. It’s the Shire, and it looks like the Eye of Sauron has begun to notice. Sad.

    • Replies: @Millennial
    @Antlitz Grollheim

    Now that's truly obscene - a Moldbug groupie like you enjoying my native "Shire" and its "rugged," "salty" culture borne entirely from Anglo-Scots Protestant Whigs.

    "Sauron has begun to notice" - Good. Sauron is the benevolent status quo. He's the rightful Lord of these lands. He lives forever and has the biggest tower, right? No hobbit or elf or mortal man or whatever has the right to criticize or rebel against him.

  71. Will NH gain Diversity by Immigration or by Migration?

    Former is better bet. Migration can mean just More Black Americans. Immigration can mean Hindus with degrees in engineering. Inter-diversity is favored in SF over Intra-diversity.

    • Replies: @JimB
    @Anon

    Not much difference between Hindus with "engineering" degrees and Black Americans. Both destroy local communities through antisocial behavior.

  72. Who the hell doesn’t get what this is about? A state like New Hampshire stands as a symbol for how nice a white ethnostate would be for whites, even without prestige universities, Silicon Valley, large government installations, or a huge wealth generating economy tied to a sprawling metropolis. The majority of the population shop at thrift stores, have back yard gardens, and cut coupons, but a NH family with two blue collar parents lives a much better life than the most smug two professional couple in the Bay Area. They also can still afford to have three or four kids. And you don’t read stories in the local news about mentally handicapped children being gang raped by little Muslim savages.

    • Replies: @JimB
    @JimB

    Therefore NH must be diversified to destroy the counterexample to diversity is our strength.

  73. I hate being simplistic but shouldn’t we just have every citizen and every prospective immigrant take an IQ test? The military does that and has done so for a long time. In one of my favorite Sci Fi movies of the fifties Forbidden Planet Leslie Stevens and Warren Smith both know their “official” IQs. I would have expected something like that to have been instituted by now..

  74. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    "the military doesn’t allow virtually any recruits who score below the 30th percentile on the g-loaded AFQT test."

    I've read things like this but have never seen anything official about it. Is this a "The rumor is that ...." level thing, or can you cite an official document or regulation about the minimum test score required?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Steve

    I was educated at DODEA schools up to my freshman year in high school, then transferred to a civilian HGM magnet school without difficulty. DODEA students, whatever their race or ethnic background, are pretty squared away.
    This comment from the link Steve provided is still operative, btw, only more so.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Anonymous

    Because their parents are already selected for intelligence?

    Replies: @Anonymous

  75. @Realist

    In FBI crime stats, New Hampshire has the lowest homicide rate in the country.
     
    The stupid white liberals (and some conservatives) will take care of that.

    Replies: @wrd9, @lavoisier

    In FBI crime stats, New Hampshire has the lowest homicide rate in the country.

    And they are very comfortable with gun ownership as well.

    How did that happen????

    Is it possible, even conceivable, that some races are more responsible with gun ownership than are other races??

    • Replies: @Realist
    @lavoisier


    Is it possible, even conceivable, that some races are more responsible with gun ownership than are other races??
     
    Nah, that couldn't be.
  76. @JimB
    Who the hell doesn’t get what this is about? A state like New Hampshire stands as a symbol for how nice a white ethnostate would be for whites, even without prestige universities, Silicon Valley, large government installations, or a huge wealth generating economy tied to a sprawling metropolis. The majority of the population shop at thrift stores, have back yard gardens, and cut coupons, but a NH family with two blue collar parents lives a much better life than the most smug two professional couple in the Bay Area. They also can still afford to have three or four kids. And you don’t read stories in the local news about mentally handicapped children being gang raped by little Muslim savages.

    Replies: @JimB

    Therefore NH must be diversified to destroy the counterexample to diversity is our strength.

  77. istevefan says:
    @Jack D
    @eah

    You missed the main point of the article. Blacks & Latinos have lower scores but Asians have higher scores than whites. And the Asian lead keeps growing. Soon we will be talking about the "gap" in white scores.

    I know that certain people here will attribute this to Asian cheating, but it can't all be cheating. And no it's not "cheating" to study very hard and be prepared for a test when that is how you approach life in general. S. Korea is going to pass a law limiting the workweek to 52 hrs/week because Koreans work too hard.

    Replies: @Nathan, @istevefan, @eah

    Soon we will be talking about the “gap” in white scores.

    If they ever start to talk about the “gap” in white scores, it will only be to gloat and not to come up with a fix.

    And no it’s not “cheating” to study very hard and be prepared for a test when that is how you approach life in general. S. Korea is going to pass a law limiting the workweek to 52 hrs/week because Koreans work too hard.

    There are different approaches to education. I think what has prevailed in America for quite some time is the notion that education should not just be exclusively on academic subjects. That it must include other activities that promote teamwork, leadership and lead to a more well-rounded individual. Steve has often pointed out people like Neil Armstrong who seemed to embody this all-around development of body and mind, and who are capable of socializing with others as teammates or leaders.

    Asians to my mind don’t embrace this and spend an inordinate amount of time cramming for tests. They are obviously intelligent, and their work ethic is admirable. But is this what we really want for our education system? Will this lead to the well-rounded individuals that we have prided ourselves on making? Or will this lead to an excess of introverted, socially awkward test takers?

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    @istevefan

    Whenever any group is predominately white, there's this question, "Where is the diversity?" I wonder if that question ever comes up with groups that are predominately black, Hispanic, or Asian. I haven't seen it.

    In college there was a campus group called "Asian-American Christian fellowship". It was 100% Asian and everybody was cool with it. Rinse, repeat.

    When I worked for the state the boss was quite open about the fact that we were mainly a group of Chinese people. That was cool too.

    So likely what the test-taking education will lead to is Asian-Americans who never bother to worry about other races being included.

  78. @res
    @Jack D


    But putting the DoD schools in a comparison with the general population is unfair because the DoD schools by definition draw from a pre-screened (parental) population of people (especially blacks who are less than 13% of the general population but half of those under IQ 85) that excludes the low end.
     
    Right, but I think that justifies placing the DoD schools in a separate category so they don't skew the state numbers.

    I think it is worth considering whether the DoD schools also have an advantage in discipline for one or more of the following reasons:
    - Selected parents.
    - Military culture of discipline.
    - Effective levers (e.g. sanctions on parents or peer pressure) to change the behavior of kids who act out excessively.

    I don't have a sense of if/how the culture of learning is different in the DoD schools, but SporadicMyrmidon's comment is suggestive.

    One thing which struck me is the DoD schools doing better on reading than math. The difference is fairly small, but with sample sizes that large I think would be statistically significant. Is that just a matter of racial differences in verbal/math tilt combined with military demographics, or is there something more going on there?

    Does anyone know what the demographics of DoD schools look like compared to the US at large? Or the difference between career military and shorter service demographics? I assume the children of career military are overrepresented in the DoD schools (especially high school).

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @ScarletNumber, @Anonymous

    It’s about the college-educated population I suspect: People who tilt towards Math have lots of lucrative career options and won’t struggle to pass “weed out” classes in their major. College-educated people who tilt verbal and not towards Math are pretty much limited to going into teaching, nursing or taking gambles on law school or general business type degrees, both of which are not good ideas unless you come from a wealthy family with lots of connections. And verbally oriented men probably have fewer options than verbally oriented women. Hence they end up joining the military right out of college or dropping out for the military. I’ve seen this happen to many friends.

    • Replies: @Allison
    @S. Anonyia

    I have a huge gap between my verbal iq and my performance iq and I just passed my medical boards. Verbal is 131; performance is only 99. Not sure what else I'd be suited for. I taught for a few years and wasn't good at that.

  79. I feel someone must have mentioned this, but the fact New Hampshire is both a swing/purple state and an early primary State must have something to do with this recent diversity crusade.

    • Replies: @res
    @Paulestinian


    I feel someone must have mentioned this, but the fact New Hampshire is both a swing/purple state and an early primary State must have something to do with this recent diversity crusade.
     
    Your comment is the first time I saw this point made. And it is a good one.
  80. @eah
    What's the Matter with New Hampshire

    Not the name anyway.

    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1023399984421584898

    Replies: @Anonymous, @BenKenobi, @flyingtiger, @Joe Sweet, @DrW

    Poztin?

  81. @Alfa158
    @Almost Missouri

    Wow that was weird. Are those girls Korean? What does it take to make yourself look that White? And it wasn’t an isolated case of just the lead dancer, the whole chorus was LARPing.
    As we start getting closer to practical genetic engineering of children, I wonder how tough it will be to isolate and modify the genes for eye color and melanin. In a hundred years will the world be full of Asian people with pale colored round eyes, honey colored hair, and vaguely Asian facial features like Japanese cartoon characters? That whole video was vaguely disturbing.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @AndrewR

    As we start getting closer to practical genetic engineering of children…

    That has about as much chance of ever happening as Kurzweil’s singularity.

    I probably should point out that I meant that as a reductio since, alas, there are still plenty of people who actually believe in the stupid singularity.

  82. Anon[380] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri
    @Lot

    And synchronized dancing.

    https://youtu.be/V2hlQkVJZhE?t=1m13s

    Replies: @jim jones, @Alfa158, @tyrone, @Anon

    via Drudge

    http://www.unionleader.com/crime/massage-parlor-prostitution-on-the-rise-in-nh-20180729

    There are now 27 massage parlors in New Hampshire listed on just one website.

    They include Aqua Therapy in Londonderry, Asian Massage in Merrimack and Sunset Spa in Manchester.

    Ma* was the registered agent of Aqua Therapy until 2014, when it was transferred to Gui Hua Chen. Attempts to reach Chen were unsuccessful.

    (*as in Ken D. Ma, not “Ma’s Apple Pie”)

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anon

    With the legalization of marijuana and the recharacterization by feminists of whores as "sex workers", how long before legalized prostitution catches on in the US (beyond Nevada)?

    Replies: @Corn, @Anonymous

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Anon

    It was thoughtful of that reporter to tell you where to go.

  83. @anony-mouse
    NH has low crime because it has a very high median age: http://time.com/5000792/youngest-oldest-us-states/

    Racial composition does affect crime rates, but since young unmarried males make up the vast, vast bulk of criminals, NH is 'protected' by its residents not having children. Not sure that's a good strategy for the future, though.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @istevefan, @MikeatMikedotMike

    “Racial composition does affect crime rates, ”

    On what planet?

  84. It’s always more smear-chucking from the usual crowd.

  85. @istevefan
    @Jack D


    Soon we will be talking about the “gap” in white scores.
     
    If they ever start to talk about the "gap" in white scores, it will only be to gloat and not to come up with a fix.

    And no it’s not “cheating” to study very hard and be prepared for a test when that is how you approach life in general. S. Korea is going to pass a law limiting the workweek to 52 hrs/week because Koreans work too hard.

     

    There are different approaches to education. I think what has prevailed in America for quite some time is the notion that education should not just be exclusively on academic subjects. That it must include other activities that promote teamwork, leadership and lead to a more well-rounded individual. Steve has often pointed out people like Neil Armstrong who seemed to embody this all-around development of body and mind, and who are capable of socializing with others as teammates or leaders.

    Asians to my mind don't embrace this and spend an inordinate amount of time cramming for tests. They are obviously intelligent, and their work ethic is admirable. But is this what we really want for our education system? Will this lead to the well-rounded individuals that we have prided ourselves on making? Or will this lead to an excess of introverted, socially awkward test takers?

    Replies: @stillCARealist

    Whenever any group is predominately white, there’s this question, “Where is the diversity?” I wonder if that question ever comes up with groups that are predominately black, Hispanic, or Asian. I haven’t seen it.

    In college there was a campus group called “Asian-American Christian fellowship”. It was 100% Asian and everybody was cool with it. Rinse, repeat.

    When I worked for the state the boss was quite open about the fact that we were mainly a group of Chinese people. That was cool too.

    So likely what the test-taking education will lead to is Asian-Americans who never bother to worry about other races being included.

  86. I went to DoD schools from 1968 – 1974 in assorted places.
    One of the teachers told me they were required to have a Masters degrees and take continuing Ed classes. The schools also did not have to put up with too much in the discipline department. If you were screwing up in school, they would call your military parent to come down to the school and deal with it. This reflects poorly up to your parents commander. Back then, Dad was assured to issue some correction that was far worse than getting paddled by the principle.

    At the time, I also do not think they tried every stupid education fad that came out of California.
    Maybe there were better schools than DoD, but I learned the hard way when I had to return to domestic schools. We had black kids bused in from a nearby city. They were in the 9th grade and literally could not read which is a rather sad affair and I could not have been more appalled.

  87. @eah
    What's the Matter with New Hampshire

    Not the name anyway.

    https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1023399984421584898

    Replies: @Anonymous, @BenKenobi, @flyingtiger, @Joe Sweet, @DrW

    Why do you have that picture there? That picture has nothing to do with New Hampshire.

  88. OT: from yesterday’s “16 Best Things to do in L.A. this Week” section in LA Weekly:

    Intersectionality by Moonlight

    As our conventional public arenas for social discourse descend further into hyper-real horror, consider the green things sprouting from the cracks. A full moon “genders promenade” engaging artists, activists and the public in an exploratory dialogue, Ain’t I a Womxn features local performance art illuminati leading a midsummer bacchanal that promises both revolution and entertainment: audio tunnels, vogueing, group scream, feminist PSAs, free ephemera, food trucks and a moonlit, engaged celebration of intersectionality. It’s all backed by Freewaves, the L.A. nonprofit that has been fucking up media in the best way since 1989. Bring a flashlight, learn to see. The whole thing will be folded into an online book for the group’s ongoing public art series, “Dis… Miss.” More than 20 independent artists, 10 art groups and community orgs, with funding and support from local government (sometimes they get it right), will participate. L.A. State Historic Park, 1245 N. Spring St., Elysian Park; Sat., July 28, 8-11 p.m.; free.

    Did anyone attend?

    How were the audio tunnels and the group scream?

    • Replies: @Swizzle Stick
    @PennTothal

    That sounds like a “Stefan” skit from SNL.

  89. @eah
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjN7CG2U8AAWC4M.jpg

    https://twitter.com/HarmlessYardDog/status/1023374937984126976

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Ben tillman, @pyrrhus

    So the “economic engine” of New Hampshire can’t move forward without a lot of low IQ, welfare seeking minorities?

    • Replies: @eah
    @pyrrhus

    Yes, exactly -- or so say the völlig unbeteiligte 'diversity' apparatchiks.

  90. @Lot
    Some Korean immigration would power NH to the top of the math chart, as well as in certain sports:

    https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/WKn124D9m393oi7b2IfshegIS-M=/1400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11838003/1006862548.jpg


    https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2018/7/28/17626004/overwatch-league-finals-winner-season-one-london-spitfire

    Replies: @Simple Psuedonym, @Almost Missouri, @El Dato, @Client 9

    Uh.. No thanks.

  91. Abe says: • Website
    @Jack D
    @eah


    this seems low enough to avoid any ‘disparate impact’ issues
     
    This seems to be a side effect but I don't think it is the main driver. 1st of all, the thresholds are driven by need - they start at the top and dig down into the pool until they are fully staffed. If they are short handed because there is a war (a war has many effects on both supply and demand - you need more people in the military when you are fighting a war, some smart people who would enlist in a peacetime military stay away because they don't want to get killed, others are killed or wounded in the war itself) they reach deeper into the pool.

    2nd the military is an attractive career for blacks for various reasons so they are able to keep the services integrated using relatively high quality blacks. This may change as qualified blacks are ever more sought after in the civilian world.

    But putting the DoD schools in a comparison with the general population is unfair because the DoD schools by definition draw from a pre-screened (parental) population of people (especially blacks who are less than 13% of the general population but half of those under IQ 85) that excludes the low end. This is like computing the average height of two groups, where group A is randomly selected and group B excludes anyone whose father is less than 5'8" tall. Of course group B is going to have a higher average.

    Replies: @res, @Abe

    2nd the military is an attractive career for blacks for various reasons so they are able to keep the services integrated using relatively high quality blacks.

    Let’s not get all cuckly about the human capital quality of blacks in the armed forces. They are generally a cut above, yes, but ultimately they’re still black and their children regress to the black mean. Libertardians (among whose number I once could include myself) spent the last 20 years bashing nice white lady suburban school teachers as the Jimmy Hoffa-esque embodiment of corrupt Big Labor in order to uphold the lie that America’s crappy schools are the fault of something other than their crappy (largely NAM) student bodies. So let’s not go down the road of lionizing black service members as some Dennis Haysbert-esque (closet conservative!) vanguard with a great HBD -compliant, just-so-origin story.

    And if I sound bitter-well, yeah, I just learned my now-grown nephew who’s a bit of a screw-up as an adult was, as a brat in the well-past STRIPES-era Reagan military, sexually molested on-base by the kids of black service members.

    • Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope
    @Abe

    My father was career military and I grew up on military bases. Generally speaking, military kids are a pretty tough bunch. Especially NCO kids.

    Most of the black military kids were punks. The white military kids usually didn't back down from a fight though. The blacks would usually only attack when they had a significant size or numerical advantage.

    , @Jack D
    @Abe

    I said RELATIVELY. As mentioned earlier, the military excludes the lowest 30% of the overall population or more than 1/2 of all blacks. This doesn't make the remaining blacks or their kids into rocket scientists but it helps as show by the DoD school scores. If you think it is bad now, just imagine what it would be like if the DoD took all (black) comers. Or you don't have to imagine, just visit any general enrollment high school in Philadelphia (once you get past the metal detectors). On 2nd thought, if you are white it may not be a good idea to visit.

    Replies: @Abe

  92. When nationalism loses to globalism.

    UK has two choices.

    1. Corbyn who stands up to Jewish Power but wants to flood UK with more Africans and Muslims.

    2. The Other Side that defends Jewish Power that… wants to flood UK with Africans and Muslims.

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/07/28/labours-gas-chamber-blues-pink-berets-vs-fing-anti-semites/

  93. @Abe
    @Jack D


    2nd the military is an attractive career for blacks for various reasons so they are able to keep the services integrated using relatively high quality blacks.
     
    Let’s not get all cuckly about the human capital quality of blacks in the armed forces. They are generally a cut above, yes, but ultimately they’re still black and their children regress to the black mean. Libertardians (among whose number I once could include myself) spent the last 20 years bashing nice white lady suburban school teachers as the Jimmy Hoffa-esque embodiment of corrupt Big Labor in order to uphold the lie that America’s crappy schools are the fault of something other than their crappy (largely NAM) student bodies. So let’s not go down the road of lionizing black service members as some Dennis Haysbert-esque (closet conservative!) vanguard with a great HBD -compliant, just-so-origin story.

    And if I sound bitter-well, yeah, I just learned my now-grown nephew who’s a bit of a screw-up as an adult was, as a brat in the well-past STRIPES-era Reagan military, sexually molested on-base by the kids of black service members.

    Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope, @Jack D

    My father was career military and I grew up on military bases. Generally speaking, military kids are a pretty tough bunch. Especially NCO kids.

    Most of the black military kids were punks. The white military kids usually didn’t back down from a fight though. The blacks would usually only attack when they had a significant size or numerical advantage.

  94. res says:
    @Paulestinian
    I feel someone must have mentioned this, but the fact New Hampshire is both a swing/purple state and an early primary State must have something to do with this recent diversity crusade.

    Replies: @res

    I feel someone must have mentioned this, but the fact New Hampshire is both a swing/purple state and an early primary State must have something to do with this recent diversity crusade.

    Your comment is the first time I saw this point made. And it is a good one.

  95. @eah
    How long before the SAT is ruled to have 'disparate impact'?

    New SAT, Old Gaps on Race

    ...what the College Board calls "benchmark" scores indicating that students have a 75 percent chance of earning a C or higher in various college courses. The table below...

    From the table: only 20% of "Black" and 31% of "Latino" students who took the test met the "benchmark" in both sections ("Reading and Writing" and "Mathematics") -- and that is just the students who took the test; one must presume they are among the brighter "Black" and "Latino" students.

    It seems likely that's going to have a 'disparate impact' on the US generally/economically one day/eventually.

    Replies: @Carbon blob, @RadicalCenter, @Jack D, @M_Young, @Ed

    The New New SAT will consist of the 100m , 200m, and long jump.

    • Replies: @eah
    @M_Young

    That probably won't work.

    https://stateofobesity.org/images/intro-nhanes-sex-race.png

  96. @anony-mouse
    NH has low crime because it has a very high median age: http://time.com/5000792/youngest-oldest-us-states/

    Racial composition does affect crime rates, but since young unmarried males make up the vast, vast bulk of criminals, NH is 'protected' by its residents not having children. Not sure that's a good strategy for the future, though.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @istevefan, @MikeatMikedotMike

    NH is ‘protected’ by its residents not having children.

    Surely during the post-WW2 Baby Boom New Hampshire residents were having children. How did the crime rate of New Hampshire in 1955 compare to the rest of the nation?

  97. @Abe
    @Jack D


    2nd the military is an attractive career for blacks for various reasons so they are able to keep the services integrated using relatively high quality blacks.
     
    Let’s not get all cuckly about the human capital quality of blacks in the armed forces. They are generally a cut above, yes, but ultimately they’re still black and their children regress to the black mean. Libertardians (among whose number I once could include myself) spent the last 20 years bashing nice white lady suburban school teachers as the Jimmy Hoffa-esque embodiment of corrupt Big Labor in order to uphold the lie that America’s crappy schools are the fault of something other than their crappy (largely NAM) student bodies. So let’s not go down the road of lionizing black service members as some Dennis Haysbert-esque (closet conservative!) vanguard with a great HBD -compliant, just-so-origin story.

    And if I sound bitter-well, yeah, I just learned my now-grown nephew who’s a bit of a screw-up as an adult was, as a brat in the well-past STRIPES-era Reagan military, sexually molested on-base by the kids of black service members.

    Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope, @Jack D

    I said RELATIVELY. As mentioned earlier, the military excludes the lowest 30% of the overall population or more than 1/2 of all blacks. This doesn’t make the remaining blacks or their kids into rocket scientists but it helps as show by the DoD school scores. If you think it is bad now, just imagine what it would be like if the DoD took all (black) comers. Or you don’t have to imagine, just visit any general enrollment high school in Philadelphia (once you get past the metal detectors). On 2nd thought, if you are white it may not be a good idea to visit.

    • Replies: @Abe
    @Jack D


    I said RELATIVELY.
     
    Right, Jack, no offense meant. Just that about 2% of iSteve content* is the relative superiority of the black professional military cohort (cf. his musings on why the black population of Hawaii is relatively high-functional) and I felt a jolting reality check was in order before it took on a feel-good, mushy mind-worm kind of sentimentality among readers here.

    * 7% of iSteve content is golf course architecture
    * 4% is the insane coolness of Chechen strongman Ramzan Kadyrov

  98. @Anon
    @Almost Missouri

    via Drudge

    http://www.unionleader.com/crime/massage-parlor-prostitution-on-the-rise-in-nh-20180729


    There are now 27 massage parlors in New Hampshire listed on just one website.

    They include Aqua Therapy in Londonderry, Asian Massage in Merrimack and Sunset Spa in Manchester.

    Ma* was the registered agent of Aqua Therapy until 2014, when it was transferred to Gui Hua Chen. Attempts to reach Chen were unsuccessful.
     

    (*as in Ken D. Ma, not "Ma's Apple Pie")

    Replies: @Jack D, @Almost Missouri

    With the legalization of marijuana and the recharacterization by feminists of whores as “sex workers”, how long before legalized prostitution catches on in the US (beyond Nevada)?

    • Replies: @Corn
    @Jack D

    Good question. I’m surprised this hasn’t become a more popular cause.

    I think maybe there are two reasons why a prostitution legalization campaign hasn’t caught on:

    1. Men don’t want to admit they do or would solicit prostitutes. (It just seems seedy and who wants to admit they pay for sex instead of possessing the game to woo women into bed for free, or the price of a couple drinks.)

    2. Intra-female rivalry. Besides moral grounds, women may oppose legalization because they want men to woo them rather than hire hookers.

    , @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    The left are strongly anti-prostitution.

    Their goal is to force the so-called (unfortunately named) 'Swedish Model' on America in which Johns (but not hookers) are criminalized merely for attempting to initiate the 'sexual bargain' - in other words the left wants an outright prohibition of prostitution in which men are stigmatized and criminalized.

    Note how this fits in with the reigning power/gender Totem Pole dynamic of the post - socialist 'left'.

    Replies: @Amasius

  99. @Anonymous
    @eah


    Austin’s namesake, Stephen F. Austin — also referred to as the "father of Texas" — opposed efforts by Mexico to abolish slavery in the Tejas province, saying freed slaves would become “vagabonds, a nuisance and a menace,” the newspaper noted.
     
    Farsighted lad, wasn't he.

    the Equity Office's report notes:

    “It is also important to acknowledge that nearly all monuments to the Confederacy and its leaders were erected without a true democratic process. People of color often had no voice and no opportunity to raise concerns...”
     

    Hey! Guess what...I know exactly what that feels like. Everyone happy now?

    Replies: @eah, @Jack D, @Prester John

    What do they want to rename it? “Zapata”?

  100. @Anon
    Will NH gain Diversity by Immigration or by Migration?

    Former is better bet. Migration can mean just More Black Americans. Immigration can mean Hindus with degrees in engineering. Inter-diversity is favored in SF over Intra-diversity.

    Replies: @JimB

    Not much difference between Hindus with “engineering” degrees and Black Americans. Both destroy local communities through antisocial behavior.

  101. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Off Topic but of interest:

    Another martyr to Political Correctness but from an unexpected source. Dov Bechofer, a resident radiologist at Montefiore Medical Center in the Bronx, has been placed "off-duty" for being a prolific commentator in what is described as a "white supremacist, neo-Nazi" web site. Among his transgressions were authoring "A Jewish Defense of Antisemitism" and favorably quoting Jared Taylor and sundry other Forbidden Thinkers.

    His father is a rabbi who has led the group "Orthodox Jews Against Racism and Discrimination".

    Replies: @Anonymous, @snorlax, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Anonym

    Dov sounds like an awesome guy. Dov did nothing wrong!

    Some great advice here:

    https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/07/dov-bechhofer-did-nothing-wrong/

    Recognize the attack, remain calm, and realize that very few friends and coworkers will help you.
    Don’t try to reason with them: You are not dealing with rational people, but with raving beasts who will take every gesture of good will as a sign of weakness and will use everything you say against you.
    Do not apologize: Apologies are treated as evidence of guilt and invite intensified attacks.
    Accept your fate: Try to adopt a Stoic attitude of indifference about outcomes; focus simply on doing the right thing, which is to fight.
    Document their every word and action: Most organizations have rules for firing or disciplining people; know the rules; demand that they be followed; admit nothing; demand the accusers do all the work; get everything in writing, and get it signed.
    Do not resign! Don’t do the enemy’s work for them.
    Make the rubble bounce: Basically, this means counter-attack; do everything you can to raise the price of attacking you for your enemies and your employer. This is worth quoting at length: “Whether you survive the attempted purge or whether you don’t, it’s very important to observe who has defined himself as an ally, an enemy, or a neutral party during the process. The choices people make will pleasantly surprise you about as often as they disappoint you. Once everyone’s choices have been made clear, your task is simple. Target the enemy at every opportunity. Hit them wherever they show themselves vulnerable. Play as dirty as your conscience will permit. Undermine them, sabotage them, and discredit them. Be ruthless and show them absolutely no mercy. This is not the time for Christian forgiveness because these are people who have not repented, these are people who are trying to destroy you and are quite willing to harm your family and your children in the process. Take them down and take them out without hesitation. If you have any SJWs working under you, fire them. If you have an SJW relying upon you for something, play dumb and assure him that he’ll get it on time, then fail to deliver, all the while promising that it’s going to be done next week. Above all, understand that the normal rules of live and let live are no longer in effect. The more you disrupt their activities and their daily routine, the more difficult they will find it to purge you. Assume that you are on your way out — if you’ve followed the previous advice given, you should already have your landing zone prepared and are only waiting for the right moment to exit — and salt the earth. Leave devastation in your wake so that it will take weeks or even months for them to try to recover from the damage of your purging.”
    Start nothing, finish everything: Basically, don’t act out of anger; don’t initiate attacks, but when attacked, respond with disproportionate, overwhelming force.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  102. @Alfa158
    @Almost Missouri

    Wow that was weird. Are those girls Korean? What does it take to make yourself look that White? And it wasn’t an isolated case of just the lead dancer, the whole chorus was LARPing.
    As we start getting closer to practical genetic engineering of children, I wonder how tough it will be to isolate and modify the genes for eye color and melanin. In a hundred years will the world be full of Asian people with pale colored round eyes, honey colored hair, and vaguely Asian facial features like Japanese cartoon characters? That whole video was vaguely disturbing.

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @AndrewR

    Epicanthic fold removal surgery is very popular in Korea. And hair dye and colored contacts are inexpensive.

    Many people want to look different. White people obsess over tanning. Black people dye their hair blond. Old people dye their grey hair.

    That video is no more disturbing than your average American pop video. At least Koreans limit immigration to a reasonable extent.

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @Dmitry
    @AndrewR


    That video is no more disturbing than your average American pop video. At least Koreans limit immigration to a reasonable extent.

     

    Lol if you didn't notice - Kpop has conquered youth around the world, and mainly watched by non-Korean teens, that don't understand even the language (although it's popular to want to learn a few words).

    Despite lack of any original sounds - Korean pop music was almost as successful as Hyundai and Samsung.

    Commonly Kpop formula - beautiful women, with dyed hair brown, dressed in uniforms, dancing in regimented formations, often as schoolgirls.

    Music not important compared to the visuals.

    Audio terms, it is mainly Western pop music, - but with North Korean style aesthetics in the videos, and the mix is very successfully re-exported back to EU/Russian/American youth.

    -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xolk2cFzlo

  103. @lavoisier
    @Realist


    In FBI crime stats, New Hampshire has the lowest homicide rate in the country.
     
    And they are very comfortable with gun ownership as well.

    How did that happen????

    Is it possible, even conceivable, that some races are more responsible with gun ownership than are other races??

    Replies: @Realist

    Is it possible, even conceivable, that some races are more responsible with gun ownership than are other races??

    Nah, that couldn’t be.

  104. @S. Anonyia
    @res

    It’s about the college-educated population I suspect: People who tilt towards Math have lots of lucrative career options and won’t struggle to pass “weed out” classes in their major. College-educated people who tilt verbal and not towards Math are pretty much limited to going into teaching, nursing or taking gambles on law school or general business type degrees, both of which are not good ideas unless you come from a wealthy family with lots of connections. And verbally oriented men probably have fewer options than verbally oriented women. Hence they end up joining the military right out of college or dropping out for the military. I’ve seen this happen to many friends.

    Replies: @Allison

    I have a huge gap between my verbal iq and my performance iq and I just passed my medical boards. Verbal is 131; performance is only 99. Not sure what else I’d be suited for. I taught for a few years and wasn’t good at that.

  105. @res
    @Jack D


    But putting the DoD schools in a comparison with the general population is unfair because the DoD schools by definition draw from a pre-screened (parental) population of people (especially blacks who are less than 13% of the general population but half of those under IQ 85) that excludes the low end.
     
    Right, but I think that justifies placing the DoD schools in a separate category so they don't skew the state numbers.

    I think it is worth considering whether the DoD schools also have an advantage in discipline for one or more of the following reasons:
    - Selected parents.
    - Military culture of discipline.
    - Effective levers (e.g. sanctions on parents or peer pressure) to change the behavior of kids who act out excessively.

    I don't have a sense of if/how the culture of learning is different in the DoD schools, but SporadicMyrmidon's comment is suggestive.

    One thing which struck me is the DoD schools doing better on reading than math. The difference is fairly small, but with sample sizes that large I think would be statistically significant. Is that just a matter of racial differences in verbal/math tilt combined with military demographics, or is there something more going on there?

    Does anyone know what the demographics of DoD schools look like compared to the US at large? Or the difference between career military and shorter service demographics? I assume the children of career military are overrepresented in the DoD schools (especially high school).

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @ScarletNumber, @Anonymous

    I think it is worth considering whether the DoD schools also have an advantage in discipline for one or more of the following reasons:
    – Selected parents.
    – Military culture of discipline.
    – Effective levers (e.g. sanctions on parents or peer pressure) to change the behavior of kids who act out excessively.

    This is what I was thinking. There is less tolerance for being an asshole in DoD schools.

  106. @Jack D
    @Anon

    With the legalization of marijuana and the recharacterization by feminists of whores as "sex workers", how long before legalized prostitution catches on in the US (beyond Nevada)?

    Replies: @Corn, @Anonymous

    Good question. I’m surprised this hasn’t become a more popular cause.

    I think maybe there are two reasons why a prostitution legalization campaign hasn’t caught on:

    1. Men don’t want to admit they do or would solicit prostitutes. (It just seems seedy and who wants to admit they pay for sex instead of possessing the game to woo women into bed for free, or the price of a couple drinks.)

    2. Intra-female rivalry. Besides moral grounds, women may oppose legalization because they want men to woo them rather than hire hookers.

  107. Abe says: • Website
    @Jack D
    @Abe

    I said RELATIVELY. As mentioned earlier, the military excludes the lowest 30% of the overall population or more than 1/2 of all blacks. This doesn't make the remaining blacks or their kids into rocket scientists but it helps as show by the DoD school scores. If you think it is bad now, just imagine what it would be like if the DoD took all (black) comers. Or you don't have to imagine, just visit any general enrollment high school in Philadelphia (once you get past the metal detectors). On 2nd thought, if you are white it may not be a good idea to visit.

    Replies: @Abe

    I said RELATIVELY.

    Right, Jack, no offense meant. Just that about 2% of iSteve content* is the relative superiority of the black professional military cohort (cf. his musings on why the black population of Hawaii is relatively high-functional) and I felt a jolting reality check was in order before it took on a feel-good, mushy mind-worm kind of sentimentality among readers here.

    * 7% of iSteve content is golf course architecture
    * 4% is the insane coolness of Chechen strongman Ramzan Kadyrov

  108. @anony-mouse
    NH has low crime because it has a very high median age: http://time.com/5000792/youngest-oldest-us-states/

    Racial composition does affect crime rates, but since young unmarried males make up the vast, vast bulk of criminals, NH is 'protected' by its residents not having children. Not sure that's a good strategy for the future, though.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @istevefan, @MikeatMikedotMike

    I’m sorry, I originally read the “racial composition” sentence as “does not” instead of “does”. My apologies.

  109. @eah
    How long before the SAT is ruled to have 'disparate impact'?

    New SAT, Old Gaps on Race

    ...what the College Board calls "benchmark" scores indicating that students have a 75 percent chance of earning a C or higher in various college courses. The table below...

    From the table: only 20% of "Black" and 31% of "Latino" students who took the test met the "benchmark" in both sections ("Reading and Writing" and "Mathematics") -- and that is just the students who took the test; one must presume they are among the brighter "Black" and "Latino" students.

    It seems likely that's going to have a 'disparate impact' on the US generally/economically one day/eventually.

    Replies: @Carbon blob, @RadicalCenter, @Jack D, @M_Young, @Ed

    I think the 20% of blacks reaching the benchmark on SAT represents an improvement. I feel like the number has hovered around 15% in the past.

    • Replies: @gregor
    @Ed

    The scores look like they're all shifted up. The black mean is now 941. It was in the mid 800s on the previous version. And the white mean is now up to 1118. Wtf. I guess they aren't even trying to keep it centered around 1000 anymore. Not sure who they think they're fooling with these games.

  110. @jim jones
    @Almost Missouri

    Korean Pop perfectly illustrates the sterility of Asian thought, mechanical dancing compared to Western innovation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwAjcU2_maI

    Replies: @Dmitry

    In audio terms, Kpop – mostly boring copy of American pop music, with hotter girls, and regimented dancing (a little like North Korean culture).

    But Japanese pop has a distinctive sound and is original. Only Russian, North American, Japanese and Latin American pop has some distinctive sounds.

    European pop (if not including Russian), has no real original sound – it’s impossible to distinguish from North American and Latin American. E.g. Swedish/English/French/Italian/Germany pop music – apart from language, it has nothing distinctive sounding.

    Russian and Japanese pop music represents an original sound and has some different melodies and arrangements, so you would know is Russian or Japanese pop music even without the words.

  111. @AndrewR
    @Alfa158

    Epicanthic fold removal surgery is very popular in Korea. And hair dye and colored contacts are inexpensive.

    Many people want to look different. White people obsess over tanning. Black people dye their hair blond. Old people dye their grey hair.

    That video is no more disturbing than your average American pop video. At least Koreans limit immigration to a reasonable extent.

    Replies: @Dmitry

    That video is no more disturbing than your average American pop video. At least Koreans limit immigration to a reasonable extent.

    Lol if you didn’t notice – Kpop has conquered youth around the world, and mainly watched by non-Korean teens, that don’t understand even the language (although it’s popular to want to learn a few words).

    Despite lack of any original sounds – Korean pop music was almost as successful as Hyundai and Samsung.

    Commonly Kpop formula – beautiful women, with dyed hair brown, dressed in uniforms, dancing in regimented formations, often as schoolgirls.

    Music not important compared to the visuals.

    Audio terms, it is mainly Western pop music, – but with North Korean style aesthetics in the videos, and the mix is very successfully re-exported back to EU/Russian/American youth.

  112. @Antlitz Grollheim
    Having lived in New Hampshire, one of its best features is that nobody's ever hears of it or thought to move there. The hills are full of eccentric rugged white people with a distinctive culture who, while salty, would never steal from you, and once they warm up to you, will help you through thick and thin. It's the Shire, and it looks like the Eye of Sauron has begun to notice. Sad.

    Replies: @Millennial

    Now that’s truly obscene – a Moldbug groupie like you enjoying my native “Shire” and its “rugged,” “salty” culture borne entirely from Anglo-Scots Protestant Whigs.

    “Sauron has begun to notice” – Good. Sauron is the benevolent status quo. He’s the rightful Lord of these lands. He lives forever and has the biggest tower, right? No hobbit or elf or mortal man or whatever has the right to criticize or rebel against him.

  113. It’s problem is that it started electing Democrats.

  114. @Ed
    @eah

    I think the 20% of blacks reaching the benchmark on SAT represents an improvement. I feel like the number has hovered around 15% in the past.

    Replies: @gregor

    The scores look like they’re all shifted up. The black mean is now 941. It was in the mid 800s on the previous version. And the white mean is now up to 1118. Wtf. I guess they aren’t even trying to keep it centered around 1000 anymore. Not sure who they think they’re fooling with these games.

  115. @PennTothal
    OT: from yesterday's "16 Best Things to do in L.A. this Week" section in LA Weekly:

    Intersectionality by Moonlight

    As our conventional public arenas for social discourse descend further into hyper-real horror, consider the green things sprouting from the cracks. A full moon "genders promenade" engaging artists, activists and the public in an exploratory dialogue, Ain't I a Womxn features local performance art illuminati leading a midsummer bacchanal that promises both revolution and entertainment: audio tunnels, vogueing, group scream, feminist PSAs, free ephemera, food trucks and a moonlit, engaged celebration of intersectionality. It's all backed by Freewaves, the L.A. nonprofit that has been fucking up media in the best way since 1989. Bring a flashlight, learn to see. The whole thing will be folded into an online book for the group's ongoing public art series, "Dis... Miss." More than 20 independent artists, 10 art groups and community orgs, with funding and support from local government (sometimes they get it right), will participate. L.A. State Historic Park, 1245 N. Spring St., Elysian Park; Sat., July 28, 8-11 p.m.; free.
     
    Did anyone attend?

    How were the audio tunnels and the group scream?

    Replies: @Swizzle Stick

    That sounds like a “Stefan” skit from SNL.

  116. New Jersey appears in both top 4’s, and Trenton is only 260 miles from Canada.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @ScarletNumber


    New Jersey appears in both top 4′s, and Trenton is only 260 miles from Canada.

     

    Trenton is concrete Congo of the worst sort. Christine Todd Whitman and Rodney Frelinghuysen and Chris Christie don't want to live in Trenton, but because they are lying politicians they won't say why.

    Christie was born in Newark but he lives in Mendham, why?

    Christie lives in Mendham for two reasons:

    1) Mendham has the word ham in it and 2) Mendham is mostly White.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

  117. Anonymous[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Anon

    With the legalization of marijuana and the recharacterization by feminists of whores as "sex workers", how long before legalized prostitution catches on in the US (beyond Nevada)?

    Replies: @Corn, @Anonymous

    The left are strongly anti-prostitution.

    Their goal is to force the so-called (unfortunately named) ‘Swedish Model’ on America in which Johns (but not hookers) are criminalized merely for attempting to initiate the ‘sexual bargain’ – in other words the left wants an outright prohibition of prostitution in which men are stigmatized and criminalized.

    Note how this fits in with the reigning power/gender Totem Pole dynamic of the post – socialist ‘left’.

    • Replies: @Amasius
    @Anonymous

    Yeah, they're even coming after Nevada.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-the-party-over-for-nevadas-legal-brothels-possibility-of-a-ban-looms-1529146800

    The old Puritan legacy plus supercharged #MeToo feminism. Pretty soon the last few brothels will be dangling like Dejima.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dejima

    Then they'll be gone too when a national ban comes. The Feds have already taken away Craigslist dating and Backpage. Men-- unattractive men especially-- must be sadistically punished forever for having sexuality.

    One thing I find funny is how porn is glorified and glamorized in this country and prostitution despised. They're kind of the same aren't they? I guess it comes down to subjective framing: the porn girls are "stars" and "actresses" expressing their sexuality while prostitutes are just being used by disgusting, horrible men.

  118. eah says:
    @Jack D
    @eah

    You missed the main point of the article. Blacks & Latinos have lower scores but Asians have higher scores than whites. And the Asian lead keeps growing. Soon we will be talking about the "gap" in white scores.

    I know that certain people here will attribute this to Asian cheating, but it can't all be cheating. And no it's not "cheating" to study very hard and be prepared for a test when that is how you approach life in general. S. Korea is going to pass a law limiting the workweek to 52 hrs/week because Koreans work too hard.

    Replies: @Nathan, @istevefan, @eah

    Dude, I didn’t miss any “main point” — I’m aware that Asians have higher mean scores than Whites; walking across the campus of my alma mater in CA, the high percentage of Asians never fails to shock me — and sadden me: it saddens me because I know many deserving Whites are not there due to their marginally lower test scores — here is my answer: the gap between the scores of Whites and Asians seems to make absolutely no difference in the quality of civilizations and institutions Whites and Asians are able to build (unlike the difference between Whites and Blacks) — in fact, judging by immigration flows, Whites have created by far the highest quality and most desirable civilizations and institutions — the White/Asian gap is of no practical significance — unlike the altruism and generosity of Whites, which is in some ways disenfranchising their own children vis-a-vis admission to elite, competitive universities.

    • Replies: @eah
    @eah

    Those smart Asians could probably do it.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjSBxXlVAAAHOoG.jpg

    Replies: @Anon

    , @Vagabond
    @eah

    Having spent five very pleasant years in Japan and China, I have developed a healthy appreciation for both cultures. Yes, east Asian IQ is nothing to scoff at. Both cultures—particularly the Japanese—are very strong, but it is not all roses. Any expat who has spent considerable time there will say the same thing: imagination, such as it exists in the West, is lacking. It is relentlessly beaten out of the young. I have seen this time and time again. Their cultures have a stronger defense than the West against infiltrators. That a certain tribe of foreign infiltrators would take control of all the levers of power—media, entertainment, politics, education, and finance, would be unthinkable. The cost of such strong cultures is a squelching of the imagination and a high suicide rate.

    Replies: @Josep

  119. @M_Young
    @eah

    The New New SAT will consist of the 100m , 200m, and long jump.

    Replies: @eah

    That probably won’t work.

  120. @Anonymous
    @Jack D

    The left are strongly anti-prostitution.

    Their goal is to force the so-called (unfortunately named) 'Swedish Model' on America in which Johns (but not hookers) are criminalized merely for attempting to initiate the 'sexual bargain' - in other words the left wants an outright prohibition of prostitution in which men are stigmatized and criminalized.

    Note how this fits in with the reigning power/gender Totem Pole dynamic of the post - socialist 'left'.

    Replies: @Amasius

    Yeah, they’re even coming after Nevada.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-the-party-over-for-nevadas-legal-brothels-possibility-of-a-ban-looms-1529146800

    The old Puritan legacy plus supercharged #MeToo feminism. Pretty soon the last few brothels will be dangling like Dejima.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dejima

    Then they’ll be gone too when a national ban comes. The Feds have already taken away Craigslist dating and Backpage. Men– unattractive men especially– must be sadistically punished forever for having sexuality.

    One thing I find funny is how porn is glorified and glamorized in this country and prostitution despised. They’re kind of the same aren’t they? I guess it comes down to subjective framing: the porn girls are “stars” and “actresses” expressing their sexuality while prostitutes are just being used by disgusting, horrible men.

  121. @pyrrhus
    @eah

    So the "economic engine" of New Hampshire can't move forward without a lot of low IQ, welfare seeking minorities?

    Replies: @eah

    Yes, exactly — or so say the völlig unbeteiligte ‘diversity’ apparatchiks.

  122. @The Z Blog
    The loon who wrote the NYTimes article is a good example of a common Yankee malady. Here's Katharine Q. Seelye' bio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Seelye

    The Yankee goes abroad and instantly becomes a citizen of the world, defending the world against her people. Their combination of self-loathing and universal fanaticism makes for a toxic mix as soon as they get out of their hives. Their women are most prone to this affliction. It's why the Puritans were wife beaters and extremely patriarchal. They knew their women were crazy.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corvinus

    So Seelye is of High WASP Arabist descent, like Steve Kerr, coach of the NBA Golden State team.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Steve Sailer

    This is the case of the two Seelye women. One works at NPR, the other at the NY Times.

    They're both probably globalizer rats who push open borders mass immigration and nation-wrecking multiculturalism.

    Concord and Nashua and Manchester are New Hampshire cities that are under attack from invasionary hordes of Third Worlders of all types. The 6 percent of New Hampshire that is not White is concentrated in a few cities. Public school test scores in those cities are plummeting badly. Real estate in those cities to plummet in 5...4...3...2...on the way folks!

    This female reporter inadvertently got closer to the truth about "diversity" in New Hampshire than the double Seelye ladies.

    New Hampshire Demographics Is Going Third World:

    https://twitter.com/Kimber_Houghton/status/994919406848397313

    , @Charles Pewitt
    @Steve Sailer

    The Seelye woman who wrote the anti-White propaganda slop in the New York Times was born in Philadelphia and she is most likely a baby boomer.

    David Lynch the baby boomer movie maker and artist spent some time in Philadelphia. He said he lived between a Black area and a Ukrainian neighborhood. Lynch said he had some interesting times with the hollow log banging concrete Congo natives. I know a baby boomer who was from Upper Darby. Upper Darby went utterly darker than it was.

    Seelye says her mother was from Maine. Seelye says this because she covers New England for the NY Times.

    New Hampshire Is Going Third World.

    New Hampshire GOP Presidential Primary Is Now Identity Politics All The Way.

    Trump Won New Hampshire Because He Promised To Stop Illegal Immigration And He Promised To Reduce Legal Immigration. Trump Also Promised To Consider An Immigration Moratorium If That Would Be Necessary To Protect The Safety And Security Of The United States.

  123. @Anonymous
    New Jersey and Massachusetts are super diverse, and also do well in education. Maybe race and diversity have less to do with education than you all thought?

    If I see that MA, NJ, NH, and VT are all doing well in education, chances are it has less to do with racial diversity and more to do with individual IQ, and people self-segregating on the lines of social class.

    After all, NH and VT have similar racial demographics to WV, but they are on opposite ends of the education spectrum.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @gregor

    Massachusetts Racial Breakdown of Population hide
    Racial composition 2013 Est.
    White (Non-Hispanic) 75.1%
    Hispanic 10.5%
    Black 8.1%
    Asian 6.0%

    Not exactly California.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Massachusetts

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    "Fifty-nine percent of the population is White, followed by 18% Hispanic or Latino (of any race), 13% Black or African American, 8% Asian, and the remaining 2% include Native American and Alaska Native, Native Hawaiians and Other Pacific Islanders, any other race, and those persons who identified two or more races."

    Now explain why New Jersey continues to do very well?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  124. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Massachusetts Racial Breakdown of Population hide
    Racial composition 2013 Est.
    White (Non-Hispanic) 75.1%
    Hispanic 10.5%
    Black 8.1%
    Asian 6.0%

    Not exactly California.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Massachusetts

    Replies: @Anonymous

    “Fifty-nine percent of the population is White, followed by 18% Hispanic or Latino (of any race), 13% Black or African American, 8% Asian, and the remaining 2% include Native American and Alaska Native, Native Hawaiians and Other Pacific Islanders, any other race, and those persons who identified two or more races.”

    Now explain why New Jersey continues to do very well?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    What state was Philip Roth from?

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

  125. @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    "Fifty-nine percent of the population is White, followed by 18% Hispanic or Latino (of any race), 13% Black or African American, 8% Asian, and the remaining 2% include Native American and Alaska Native, Native Hawaiians and Other Pacific Islanders, any other race, and those persons who identified two or more races."

    Now explain why New Jersey continues to do very well?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    What state was Philip Roth from?

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Steve Sailer


    What state was Philip Roth from?

     

    New Jersey is loaded the hell up with Jews and smart European Christians.

    Some smart European Christians were so smart they started gentrifying Hoboken in the 1970s because they knew the United States was going to turn on the monetary extremism spigot and flood the world with dollars. Hoboken is right across the Hudson River from downtown New York City where the financial district is. Hoboken has a train station that gets you to Manhattan fast.

    Smart young yuppies pushed out the Blacks and Puerto Ricans who had occupied Hoboken for the decades between when Sinatra was born there and when the yuppies piled in there. The same has been done with Jersey City, except Jersey City is 5 times as big as Hoboken and many more non-Whites remain in Jersey City as a percentage of the population than remain in Hoboken.

    My advice is to not get drunk and try to swim the Hudson River, it can't be done even by the strongest swimmers. It was a lot of fun for a young person, though. The lights from water level are similar to the lights David Lynch enjoyed in Mexico City during the filming of Dune.
  126. @songbird
    I can think of at least one old statue in NH which is probably only still standing because it is a white state.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    I can think of at least one old statue in NH which is probably only still standing because it is a white state.

    Hannah Dustin statue?

    It is a lovely statue that speaks to the strength and courage of motherhood and womanhood.

    Hannah Dustin escaped from some hostile Asians that had got to the continent between Asia and Europe about 10,ooo years or so ago. They call these Asians by the name of Native Americans now.

    Beautiful Statue Of A Brave Woman:

    • Replies: @songbird
    @Charles Pewitt

    Yes, Hannah Dustin is what first comes to mind. It would be a shame if they ever tore it down. I think the B & M once passed right by it, though it is hard to see from the road.

  127. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    What state was Philip Roth from?

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    What state was Philip Roth from?

    New Jersey is loaded the hell up with Jews and smart European Christians.

    Some smart European Christians were so smart they started gentrifying Hoboken in the 1970s because they knew the United States was going to turn on the monetary extremism spigot and flood the world with dollars. Hoboken is right across the Hudson River from downtown New York City where the financial district is. Hoboken has a train station that gets you to Manhattan fast.

    Smart young yuppies pushed out the Blacks and Puerto Ricans who had occupied Hoboken for the decades between when Sinatra was born there and when the yuppies piled in there. The same has been done with Jersey City, except Jersey City is 5 times as big as Hoboken and many more non-Whites remain in Jersey City as a percentage of the population than remain in Hoboken.

    My advice is to not get drunk and try to swim the Hudson River, it can’t be done even by the strongest swimmers. It was a lot of fun for a young person, though. The lights from water level are similar to the lights David Lynch enjoyed in Mexico City during the filming of Dune.

  128. @ScarletNumber
    New Jersey appears in both top 4's, and Trenton is only 260 miles from Canada.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    New Jersey appears in both top 4′s, and Trenton is only 260 miles from Canada.

    Trenton is concrete Congo of the worst sort. Christine Todd Whitman and Rodney Frelinghuysen and Chris Christie don’t want to live in Trenton, but because they are lying politicians they won’t say why.

    Christie was born in Newark but he lives in Mendham, why?

    Christie lives in Mendham for two reasons:

    1) Mendham has the word ham in it and 2) Mendham is mostly White.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Charles Pewitt

    You understand that the independent variable is distance from the state capital to Canada? And Trenton is the capital of New Jersey. The demographics of Trenton per se have nothing to do with it.

  129. @Hapalong Cassidy
    New Hampshire is easily the most conservative New England state, well more so than their equally white neighbor Vermont. I think the main reason, if my memory of “Albiom’s Seed” is correct, is that NH is unlike its neighbors in that it has a lot of people descended from the Scots-Irish “Borderer” stock.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    New Hampshire is easily the most conservative New England state, well more so than their equally white neighbor Vermont. I think the main reason, if my memory of “Albiom’s Seed” is correct, is that NH is unlike its neighbors in that it has a lot of people descended from the Scots-Irish “Borderer” stock.

    Derry and Londonderry and a lot of the English pioneers who settled New Hampshire were glad to be free of the English assholes in Boston and on the coast.

    New Jersey and New Hampshire had pockets of Scotch-Irish settlers. New Hampshire is the Tennessee of New England complete with a race track and English and Scotch-Irish settlers.

    Pockets of big loot in New Hampshire, just like where Trumpy was Tweeting from his golf club in New Jersey.

    Plutocrats like gravel roads to keep everybody else out, it ain’t just about the horses.

  130. @wrd9
    @Realist

    NH also has very permissive gun laws. ME and VT, too, along with very low homicide rates. Funny how they are very white as well. I hope there is a big pushback from citizens about diversifying the state, it'll only bring massive amounts of crime. If you drive up to North Conway or around Franconia Notch, you get the feeling of being in 1950s white America. A very good thing.

    Replies: @Realist

    If you drive up to North Conway or around Franconia Notch, you get the feeling of being in 1950s white America. A very good thing.

    Probably the last great epoch in American history.

  131. @flyingtiger
    @eah

    Franklin Pierce was the only president New Hampshire ever produced. On the day of the battle of Gettysburg, Pierce made a speech about why he supports the Confederacy. NH always seemed a part of Dixie.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    Pierce was something of an accidental candidate. If Levi Woodbury hadn’t died when he did, no one would have considered Pierce for president.

  132. @Steve Sailer
    @The Z Blog

    So Seelye is of High WASP Arabist descent, like Steve Kerr, coach of the NBA Golden State team.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @Charles Pewitt

    This is the case of the two Seelye women. One works at NPR, the other at the NY Times.

    They’re both probably globalizer rats who push open borders mass immigration and nation-wrecking multiculturalism.

    Concord and Nashua and Manchester are New Hampshire cities that are under attack from invasionary hordes of Third Worlders of all types. The 6 percent of New Hampshire that is not White is concentrated in a few cities. Public school test scores in those cities are plummeting badly. Real estate in those cities to plummet in 5…4…3…2…on the way folks!

    This female reporter inadvertently got closer to the truth about “diversity” in New Hampshire than the double Seelye ladies.

    New Hampshire Demographics Is Going Third World:

  133. @Steve Sailer
    @The Z Blog

    So Seelye is of High WASP Arabist descent, like Steve Kerr, coach of the NBA Golden State team.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @Charles Pewitt

    The Seelye woman who wrote the anti-White propaganda slop in the New York Times was born in Philadelphia and she is most likely a baby boomer.

    David Lynch the baby boomer movie maker and artist spent some time in Philadelphia. He said he lived between a Black area and a Ukrainian neighborhood. Lynch said he had some interesting times with the hollow log banging concrete Congo natives. I know a baby boomer who was from Upper Darby. Upper Darby went utterly darker than it was.

    Seelye says her mother was from Maine. Seelye says this because she covers New England for the NY Times.

    New Hampshire Is Going Third World.

    New Hampshire GOP Presidential Primary Is Now Identity Politics All The Way.

    Trump Won New Hampshire Because He Promised To Stop Illegal Immigration And He Promised To Reduce Legal Immigration. Trump Also Promised To Consider An Immigration Moratorium If That Would Be Necessary To Protect The Safety And Security Of The United States.

  134. @eah
    @Jack D

    Dude, I didn't miss any "main point" -- I'm aware that Asians have higher mean scores than Whites; walking across the campus of my alma mater in CA, the high percentage of Asians never fails to shock me -- and sadden me: it saddens me because I know many deserving Whites are not there due to their marginally lower test scores -- here is my answer: the gap between the scores of Whites and Asians seems to make absolutely no difference in the quality of civilizations and institutions Whites and Asians are able to build (unlike the difference between Whites and Blacks) -- in fact, judging by immigration flows, Whites have created by far the highest quality and most desirable civilizations and institutions -- the White/Asian gap is of no practical significance -- unlike the altruism and generosity of Whites, which is in some ways disenfranchising their own children vis-a-vis admission to elite, competitive universities.

    Replies: @eah, @Vagabond

    Those smart Asians could probably do it.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @eah

    Do what?

  135. @RadicalCenter
    @eah

    You’re right, and it already is having an adverse impact on our economy, government, and culture.

    And maybe off-topic a bit: Imagine the USA’s bottom 33% intellectually — mostly Africans and mestizo or Indio Latinos — against Russia’s bottom 33% in a prolonged conventional conflict where a much larger segment of the male population is called up.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Imagine the USA’s bottom 33% intellectually — mostly Africans and mestizo or Indio Latinos

    This is not true. Because (for now) there are so many more whites than non-whites, whites still make up (slightly) more than 1/2 of the low IQ cohort.

    This graph should help you to visual this:

    The real difference is at the higher end – once you hit IQ 85 (the black peak), the black cohort tapers off and the # white people soars, so whites begin to vastly outnumber blacks (far in excess of their %’s in the population. At the high end the ratio is in the range of 100 to 1 or even more at supergenius levels – e.g. there has never been a black Fields Medal winner.

  136. @Anonymous
    "the military doesn’t allow virtually any recruits who score below the 30th percentile on the g-loaded AFQT test."

    I've read things like this but have never seen anything official about it. Is this a "The rumor is that ...." level thing, or can you cite an official document or regulation about the minimum test score required?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Anonymous, @Steve

    For the army, it would be AR 601-210
    I am a former Recruiter of the Year for New England Recruiting BN. I was stationed in NH. I won’t go into every detail, because I’m typing on a phone, but here are the basics.

    AFQT scores from 1-99. The first 5 sections of the ASVAB determine this score. It is all math and English.

    The are breakdowns

    Alpha 50-99 (cat 1 & 2)
    Bravo 1-49 (cat 3 & 4 & 5)

    The only Bravos that routinely enter the Army are 31 and higher. There is a direct correlation between the QT and future success.

    To get in with less than a 50, you need a HS Diploma. Dropouts need over 50 and don’t receive bonuses.

    Sometimes they are desperate and open up to Cat 4s. 21-30.

    This can change at anytime depending on needs of the Army to fill training seats.

    In 3 years, I saw Cat 4 open once. A recruiter put in a Downey. He had gotten s special ed HS Diploma, and somehow scored a 21. He shipped to basic, but was sent home later. Yes, the recruiter got credit for the contract, and we laughed our asses off.

    Navy, Chairforce, Marines, and Coasties all get to adjust their numbers as they see fit.

    No one ever goes below 20, to my knowledge, because those people are basically considered untrainable retards.

    That means 20% of HS grads in the USA are considered too retarded to even be considered as recruits into the military.

  137. @Anonymous
    New Jersey and Massachusetts are super diverse, and also do well in education. Maybe race and diversity have less to do with education than you all thought?

    If I see that MA, NJ, NH, and VT are all doing well in education, chances are it has less to do with racial diversity and more to do with individual IQ, and people self-segregating on the lines of social class.

    After all, NH and VT have similar racial demographics to WV, but they are on opposite ends of the education spectrum.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @gregor

    DOD schools are also quite diverse, at least in my experience.

    But there’s no need to speculate using aggregate results when we have NAEP scores etc broken out explicitly by race. I would be very cautious drawing inferences based on aggregated state level information since the aggregation can obscure what’s going on. As an example, poorer states are more likely to vote Republican. This leads some to conclude that Republican support skews toward low income voters (“dumb rednecks”). But the individual data shows the opposite: that richer voters are more Republican. Similarly, of the states with the highest black population, Trump carried 9 of the top 12. Yet it is a mistake to conclude that Republicans therefore must do well with blacks.

    As I recall, Massachusetts whites (and the northeast in general) have very high scores. Statewide comparisons will misattribute variations in white performance to minority performance. And minority populations aren’t homogeneous.

    • Replies: @res
    @gregor


    Similarly, of the states with the highest black population, Trump carried 9 of the top 12. Yet it is a mistake to conclude that Republicans therefore must do well with blacks.
     
    Thanks. Sn I guess that is how Ben Tillman got his mistaken idea about the whitest states voting for Clinton discussed at great length here:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/supreme-court-upholds-trumps-muslim-travel-ban/#comment-2393184

    By my reckoning, ordered by percent black, the 9 of the top 12 states statement is correct, but DC went strongly for Clinton of course. Ordering by total black population (# of people), 5 of the top 10 states voted for Trump, but also the next 5, so 10 of the top 15.
  138. @dearieme
    @Achmed E. Newman

    "Could you please whim my comment #9, if possible?" Excellent: a new verb that's just one syllable long. I shall take it up.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I got it off someone else. His comment did get whimmed.

    I’d rather Steve err on the side he does though. Better to let 100 bad comments appear, than letting one good comment get whimmed, I always say.

  139. @Charles Pewitt
    @songbird


    I can think of at least one old statue in NH which is probably only still standing because it is a white state.

     

    Hannah Dustin statue?

    It is a lovely statue that speaks to the strength and courage of motherhood and womanhood.

    Hannah Dustin escaped from some hostile Asians that had got to the continent between Asia and Europe about 10,ooo years or so ago. They call these Asians by the name of Native Americans now.

    Beautiful Statue Of A Brave Woman:

    https://twitter.com/mrsmuraco23/status/910212165243670529

    Replies: @songbird

    Yes, Hannah Dustin is what first comes to mind. It would be a shame if they ever tore it down. I think the B & M once passed right by it, though it is hard to see from the road.

  140. @Anon
    @Almost Missouri

    via Drudge

    http://www.unionleader.com/crime/massage-parlor-prostitution-on-the-rise-in-nh-20180729


    There are now 27 massage parlors in New Hampshire listed on just one website.

    They include Aqua Therapy in Londonderry, Asian Massage in Merrimack and Sunset Spa in Manchester.

    Ma* was the registered agent of Aqua Therapy until 2014, when it was transferred to Gui Hua Chen. Attempts to reach Chen were unsuccessful.
     

    (*as in Ken D. Ma, not "Ma's Apple Pie")

    Replies: @Jack D, @Almost Missouri

    It was thoughtful of that reporter to tell you where to go.

  141. @gregor
    @Anonymous

    DOD schools are also quite diverse, at least in my experience.

    But there’s no need to speculate using aggregate results when we have NAEP scores etc broken out explicitly by race. I would be very cautious drawing inferences based on aggregated state level information since the aggregation can obscure what’s going on. As an example, poorer states are more likely to vote Republican. This leads some to conclude that Republican support skews toward low income voters (“dumb rednecks”). But the individual data shows the opposite: that richer voters are more Republican. Similarly, of the states with the highest black population, Trump carried 9 of the top 12. Yet it is a mistake to conclude that Republicans therefore must do well with blacks.

    As I recall, Massachusetts whites (and the northeast in general) have very high scores. Statewide comparisons will misattribute variations in white performance to minority performance. And minority populations aren’t homogeneous.

    Replies: @res

    Similarly, of the states with the highest black population, Trump carried 9 of the top 12. Yet it is a mistake to conclude that Republicans therefore must do well with blacks.

    Thanks. Sn I guess that is how Ben Tillman got his mistaken idea about the whitest states voting for Clinton discussed at great length here:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/supreme-court-upholds-trumps-muslim-travel-ban/#comment-2393184

    By my reckoning, ordered by percent black, the 9 of the top 12 states statement is correct, but DC went strongly for Clinton of course. Ordering by total black population (# of people), 5 of the top 10 states voted for Trump, but also the next 5, so 10 of the top 15.

  142. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @res
    @Jack D


    But putting the DoD schools in a comparison with the general population is unfair because the DoD schools by definition draw from a pre-screened (parental) population of people (especially blacks who are less than 13% of the general population but half of those under IQ 85) that excludes the low end.
     
    Right, but I think that justifies placing the DoD schools in a separate category so they don't skew the state numbers.

    I think it is worth considering whether the DoD schools also have an advantage in discipline for one or more of the following reasons:
    - Selected parents.
    - Military culture of discipline.
    - Effective levers (e.g. sanctions on parents or peer pressure) to change the behavior of kids who act out excessively.

    I don't have a sense of if/how the culture of learning is different in the DoD schools, but SporadicMyrmidon's comment is suggestive.

    One thing which struck me is the DoD schools doing better on reading than math. The difference is fairly small, but with sample sizes that large I think would be statistically significant. Is that just a matter of racial differences in verbal/math tilt combined with military demographics, or is there something more going on there?

    Does anyone know what the demographics of DoD schools look like compared to the US at large? Or the difference between career military and shorter service demographics? I assume the children of career military are overrepresented in the DoD schools (especially high school).

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @ScarletNumber, @Anonymous

    I assume the children of career military are over-represented in the DoD schools (especially high school).

    I think this has to be true because one-and-dones who enlist after high school will be in their early 20s at EAOS. ROTC who leave after their initial obligation is over will be older, but probably still won’t have school-age children. The only exception would be aviators with a 10-year initial obligation. It’s a pretty sure bet that any older children in DoD schools will be the offspring of career personnel.
    I was educated at DoDEA Pacific schools in the ’90s and my classmates were kids whose parents were veterans of the Viet Nam war, the now-forgotten Tanker War of the Reagan Administration and the Gulf war. So you are looking at individuals with long years of service who would not tolerate their kids imitating the behavior of slacker landlubbers.

  143. @Charles Pewitt
    @ScarletNumber


    New Jersey appears in both top 4′s, and Trenton is only 260 miles from Canada.

     

    Trenton is concrete Congo of the worst sort. Christine Todd Whitman and Rodney Frelinghuysen and Chris Christie don't want to live in Trenton, but because they are lying politicians they won't say why.

    Christie was born in Newark but he lives in Mendham, why?

    Christie lives in Mendham for two reasons:

    1) Mendham has the word ham in it and 2) Mendham is mostly White.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    You understand that the independent variable is distance from the state capital to Canada? And Trenton is the capital of New Jersey. The demographics of Trenton per se have nothing to do with it.

  144. @The Z Blog
    The loon who wrote the NYTimes article is a good example of a common Yankee malady. Here's Katharine Q. Seelye' bio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Seelye

    The Yankee goes abroad and instantly becomes a citizen of the world, defending the world against her people. Their combination of self-loathing and universal fanaticism makes for a toxic mix as soon as they get out of their hives. Their women are most prone to this affliction. It's why the Puritans were wife beaters and extremely patriarchal. They knew their women were crazy.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corvinus

    “It’s why the Puritans were wife beaters and extremely patriarchal. They knew their women were crazy.”

    Once again you lack context. Puritanism regarded men and women as spiritual equals. The men might be the church leaders, but women were believed to be more disciplined and more moral. Though they had no official standing, women exercised a lot of informal influence. As far as “wife beating” is concerned, that term did not enter the legal lexicon until the late 1800’s. Prior to that glorious time period (at least in your eyes, although I sense that your wife wears the pants in your household, hence the triggering on your part), the Massachusetts Body Of Liberties (1641) stated that “Every married woman shall be free from bodily correction or stripes by her husband, unless it be in his own defense upon her assault”. Later in that decade, that colony outlawed husband beating by wives. “The Puritans wished to prevent the family from becoming ‘a sanctuary for cruelty and violence’”, explains historian Elizabeth Pleck, a professor emerita at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, because the family formed the foundation of the colony, which hoped to set an example of religious devotion for the rest of the world.

    Are you this loony in real life as well?

  145. @eah
    @eah

    Those smart Asians could probably do it.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjSBxXlVAAAHOoG.jpg

    Replies: @Anon

    Do what?

  146. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    I was educated at DODEA schools up to my freshman year in high school, then transferred to a civilian HGM magnet school without difficulty. DODEA students, whatever their race or ethnic background, are pretty squared away.
    This comment from the link Steve provided is still operative, btw, only more so.

    Replies: @Anon

    Because their parents are already selected for intelligence?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anon


    Because their parents are already selected for intelligence?
     
    Partly, but students at DoD schools are almost entirely made up of children of career military personnel. That means they have grown up in a world in which good order and discipline, hierarchy and personal integrity, are givens.
    They don't consider a bed properly made unless they can bounce a quarter off it, or shoes properly shined unless they can see their face reflected. If they are not half an hour early for an appointment, they consider themselves late. They call each other by their last names and know that if an adult asks how they are, the only appropriate answer is, "Never better, sir!"
    In school, if a teacher says, "Read Chapter 5 and write a six-page essay defending or attacking the main premise as it relates to our class discussion today and be prepared to defend your stance in front of the class tomorrow morning," you will not only do it, you will do it to the very best of your ability. Or your father, who has, shall we say, command presence, will have a word with you.
    At least that's how it was back in the '90s, when dinosaurs still roamed the earth.
  147. @eah
    @Jack D

    Dude, I didn't miss any "main point" -- I'm aware that Asians have higher mean scores than Whites; walking across the campus of my alma mater in CA, the high percentage of Asians never fails to shock me -- and sadden me: it saddens me because I know many deserving Whites are not there due to their marginally lower test scores -- here is my answer: the gap between the scores of Whites and Asians seems to make absolutely no difference in the quality of civilizations and institutions Whites and Asians are able to build (unlike the difference between Whites and Blacks) -- in fact, judging by immigration flows, Whites have created by far the highest quality and most desirable civilizations and institutions -- the White/Asian gap is of no practical significance -- unlike the altruism and generosity of Whites, which is in some ways disenfranchising their own children vis-a-vis admission to elite, competitive universities.

    Replies: @eah, @Vagabond

    Having spent five very pleasant years in Japan and China, I have developed a healthy appreciation for both cultures. Yes, east Asian IQ is nothing to scoff at. Both cultures—particularly the Japanese—are very strong, but it is not all roses. Any expat who has spent considerable time there will say the same thing: imagination, such as it exists in the West, is lacking. It is relentlessly beaten out of the young. I have seen this time and time again. Their cultures have a stronger defense than the West against infiltrators. That a certain tribe of foreign infiltrators would take control of all the levers of power—media, entertainment, politics, education, and finance, would be unthinkable. The cost of such strong cultures is a squelching of the imagination and a high suicide rate.

    • Replies: @Josep
    @Vagabond


    imagination, such as it exists in the West, is lacking. It is relentlessly beaten out of the young.
     
    What about the Japanese animation and video game industries? Certainly many successful works made there wouldn't exist without imagination.
  148. Anonymous[107] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    @Anonymous

    Because their parents are already selected for intelligence?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Because their parents are already selected for intelligence?

    Partly, but students at DoD schools are almost entirely made up of children of career military personnel. That means they have grown up in a world in which good order and discipline, hierarchy and personal integrity, are givens.
    They don’t consider a bed properly made unless they can bounce a quarter off it, or shoes properly shined unless they can see their face reflected. If they are not half an hour early for an appointment, they consider themselves late. They call each other by their last names and know that if an adult asks how they are, the only appropriate answer is, “Never better, sir!”
    In school, if a teacher says, “Read Chapter 5 and write a six-page essay defending or attacking the main premise as it relates to our class discussion today and be prepared to defend your stance in front of the class tomorrow morning,” you will not only do it, you will do it to the very best of your ability. Or your father, who has, shall we say, command presence, will have a word with you.
    At least that’s how it was back in the ’90s, when dinosaurs still roamed the earth.

  149. @Vagabond
    @eah

    Having spent five very pleasant years in Japan and China, I have developed a healthy appreciation for both cultures. Yes, east Asian IQ is nothing to scoff at. Both cultures—particularly the Japanese—are very strong, but it is not all roses. Any expat who has spent considerable time there will say the same thing: imagination, such as it exists in the West, is lacking. It is relentlessly beaten out of the young. I have seen this time and time again. Their cultures have a stronger defense than the West against infiltrators. That a certain tribe of foreign infiltrators would take control of all the levers of power—media, entertainment, politics, education, and finance, would be unthinkable. The cost of such strong cultures is a squelching of the imagination and a high suicide rate.

    Replies: @Josep

    imagination, such as it exists in the West, is lacking. It is relentlessly beaten out of the young.

    What about the Japanese animation and video game industries? Certainly many successful works made there wouldn’t exist without imagination.

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