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Last election, Trump came close to turning long-time blue state Minnesota. In 2020, the year that the Democratic leadership of Minneapolis and Minnesota managed to get much of Minneapolis’s commercial footage looted by BLM and burned by Antifa, Biden is winning easily. In contrast, Missourians did not react positively in 2016 to the Obama Administration encouraging the riots and mayhem growing out of Ferguson.
What are Minnesotans thinking, if anything? Are Minnesotans just more prone to the Stockholm Syndrome?
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As in Arizona, there is a controversial Senate race in Minnesota. There were none at all in Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, or Wisconsin.
This can distort the presidential vote.
Nice White people live black violence and riot and looting.
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They might be blaming Trump instead of the perpetrators. That he pulled a Bush move (think Rodney King Riots) and left them to the wolves.
I know a native son was running, but this was the only state that went blue in 1984, and that was by 0.2%. The last time they went red without Richard Nixon being on the ticket was 1928!
Tension in the BIPOC coalition….
Nikole Hannah-Jones
https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1323787949058785283
The search for wreckers begins!
I laughed out loud! Good one.
The big failure I see people making is:
1. The only reason people would dislike the cops is because they subscribe to woke ideology.
2.Woke ideology is unpopular.(See Liz Warren’s poor performance in the Democratic primary as the candidate of woke vocabulary.)
3. The few that subscribe to it would never vote for Trump anyway.
4. Therefore, Trump portraying himself as the pro-cop candidate cannot hurt him.
The problem is that statement 1 is just not correct. A large fraction of the country hates the cops for reasons that are totally orthogonal to what the media is blathering about at the moment. If you struggle to understand why, just think back to when you were 7 years old. Think back to the other 7 year olds. The bulk of them didn’t like the “tattle-tales.” If you were one of them, you probably grew out of it, but many people never did. Cops are killjoys.
I’m not saying that Republicans shouldn’t take action against the 99.999999999% peaceful protests. Rather, I want much more than all-talk-no-action Trump did. But that I have sympathy for the victims doesn’t mean I must see my preferred policy as a guaranteed political winner. I think in the long term, it probably will be. People will get sick of the 99.999999999% peaceful protests, just as they got sick of the last experiment.
The median American, age 38, can, at best, just barely remember when the last great crime wave happened in the early 90s. I'm close to that age, and I remember it, but I have a scary childhood near-miss encounter seared into my memory from one of my family's few forays into downtown after dark (which I sometimes speculate is linked to my lifelong uncompromising views on law and order).
For most people, even older people, memories of the 1960s-90s crime waves are fuzzy. And it took many years of breakdown before we reached the point where being painted "soft on crime" was the death knell of any politician's career.
Assuming American democracy survives, I have little doubt the left will overreach here again, and it will probably be closely tied to their worst electoral loss of the next few decades. But we're just not there yet, and it was too easy, for those inclined to do so, to assign the blame to Trump for provoking it.
I hate cops because they confiscate firearms.
I hate cops because they stood down in Charlottesville and other leftist riots.
I hate cops because they've stolen hundreds of dollars from me over arcane BS while I transport myself from A to B.
I hope cops are wiped from the planet. The one thing I agree with the left on. I do not one iota understand why conservative and right lips are so tightly wound around police penii. These gangsters would hesitate not one bit to kill us all if ordered to do so.
Minnesota is the epitome of Midwestern nice cucks (not a fan of that term but it fits here). Trump was close in ‘16 because the liberals were turned off by Hillary too.
The somali’s could be dining on the flesh of the local population and the losers there would want to know what time they could drop by with a hot dish.
Nikole Hannah-Joneshttps://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1323787949058785283Replies: @syonredux, @El Dato, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @AndrewR, @Twinkie, @AndrewR
The Woke really don’t like Cubans…..
https://twitter.com/andreactually/status/1323790081212243975
I really didn't understand Biden's choice of Kamala. Blacks already vote 100% Dem. Did he think that by picking a black they would vote 110% Dem?Replies: @AnotherDad, @black sea, @Mr. Anon, @AndrewR, @Twodees Partain, @Jus' Sayin'...
The vast majority of Cubans in Florida ARE White; the older ones the Middle Class/Upper Middle Class/Upper Class that took off when the Commies took over Cuba.
Their descendent families NOT Mud Creatures like the Spanish language critters Reekins, DR Negritos and Central American Squat Monsters.
You, otoh, have sold yourself some Hard Lefty bullshit, should shut your taco hole, go find some other Lefty twat yapper...and both of you jump out of a high window.
? Entiendes ?
Everybody in the South certainly seemed to think that Consuelo Yznaga was White:Her siblings also seemed to do OK in High Society circles:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consuelo_Montagu,_Duchess_of_Manchester
She was also known for singing pro-Confederate songs:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_a_Good_Ol%27_RebelReplies: @syonredux
Well the media tried to cover up the rioting as much as possible. They barely reported them at all when they were happening, and have done no follow-up since. So the rioting has been all but forgotten.
And Trump was (perhaps wisely) so obsessed with not inciting the black vote (and actually winning some of it) that he and the GOP don’t seem to have used them much in their campaign ads.
It’s hard for Minnesotans to vote for Trump as an alternative to rioting when he’s not presenting himself as an alternative to rioting.
Trump made noises about it. Molecules of nitrogen, oxygen, argon, etc. vibrated. But a coherent attack on what the Democrats were up to and how just plain vile it is--the importance of "the rule-of-law" to civilization itself--Trump's just not up to it.
Yes, he's working against the lying media ... yes, that makes explicating this stuff clearly and forcefully all the more imperative.
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BTW, i saw Trump's speech/conversation a while back. Terrible. One could say "heat rather than light", but it was really "noise rather than light".
We--nationalists, conservatives, HBD realists, traditionalists--really need to take to heart Trump's deficiencies and find strong candidates who have the level of communication skills to get critical ideas across to both working class and college educated middle class people.Replies: @Wilkey, @MBlanc46
One word: Swedes
Having said that, the Swedish Democrats have been much more successful than the likes of the BNP, so nationalist political views don't always translate into votes for nationalist parties.Replies: @Altai
One of my friends from college lives in Minneapolis. He described in detail how bad the riots were this summer; national guard had to defend the university, large fires on the other side of the Mississippi, etc, etc. He said he was still going to vote Democrat in the hopes that they try different policies.
Maybe they think all these riots were growing pains on the path to equality or maybe Minnesotans conceptually separated BLM and Antifa from the Democrat establishment.
At least we can guess how Minneapolis would have voted on the “defund police” thing.
In ‘The Old World in the New’, EA Ross suggests the scandos are good voters, but since they are conformists, they are not great leaders:
https://www.unz.com/book/e_a_ross__the-old-world-in-the-new/
I think nearly all recent senators from Minnesota have been Jewish – Wellstone, Coleman, Franken. In a 1% Jewish state.
Walter Mondale took Wellstone's place on the ballot. Tina Smith was his manager for the very short campaign. She must have learned something, as she was picked to replace Franken, won the special election, and seems to have won the regular one this time.
Tina Smith doesn't appear to be Jewish, or indeed of any religion at all.
Scarlett O'Number up there seems to think posting historical electoral information about Minnesota is trolling, so I'll cut it out and go to bed. Not worth the bother.
Final outcome of the election, wordlessly:
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This election is really showing new ways to game things. Counting all the early voting / mail in / etc. ballots before election day ballots can create a false image of momentum, saving those for the end can provide a last minute shift.
What order are votes being counted in Minnesota? Were all the mail in / absentee / etc. counted first? Or are they still out there in car trunks being held in reserve?
No, every other state went blue. The color scheme still made sense.
A couple other points:
Minnesota was one of only five or six states to get through the entire 1980s represented in the US Senate only by Republicans. (“Independent-Republicans” in that era.) Don’t let a long string of presidential wins trick you into thinking a state is less competitive than it is.
California was the same way, with nine of ten electoral slates going to Republicans while at the same time electing Democratic governors and senators. Same with Southern states going with Republican presidents for decades yet with yellow dogs in the state house and Congress.
Democrats have actually averaged less than 50% in Minnesota for quite a few presidential elections now. Since 1972, I think. One reason is high support for any third party or independent that comes along– Anderson, Perot, Nader, McMullin, whoever. Not the Wallace variety, however.
They might be miffed that Trump didn’t send in the National Guard or the KFC Chicken Bucket Helicopter unit soon enough to stop the riots.
They might be blaming Trump instead of the perpetrators. That he pulled a Bush move (think Rodney King Riots) and left them to the wolves.
I think nearly all recent senators from Minnesota have been Jewish - Wellstone, Coleman, Franken. In a 1% Jewish state.Replies: @Dumbo, @Reg Cæsar
Yep. Scandinavians are extremely conformist. They go wherever the wind is blowing and think whatever the majority is thinking. It is very hard for them to be against what’s politically correct. They are like the “Asians of Europe”. This also might explain why they are comparatively less creative than South and Middle Europeans. Despite some geniuses here and there. That’s also why Jews lead them so easily by the nose.
You underestimate the power of brainwashing through college campuses, corporate HR departments, and social media. Especially when it comes to white women. TDS took root long before the riots.
More broadly, white people also seem to have a culturally suicidal tendency that persists across space and time. Is there any other ethnic group in the entire world who flocks to follow people who hate them in such large numbers?
https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls
That said, I certainly agree with you that university brainwashing is very powerful.Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
You might want to re-read Sailer’s post, especially the part about a syndrome.
theres a reason it is called ‘stockholm syndrome’ and not ‘mexico city madness’
I think nearly all recent senators from Minnesota have been Jewish - Wellstone, Coleman, Franken. In a 1% Jewish state.Replies: @Dumbo, @Reg Cæsar
Boschwitz before them– and all the same seat. The only break from 1978 to Franken’s resignation was Dean Barkley (Lutheran) taking Wellstone’s seat for a few weeks after his death.
Walter Mondale took Wellstone’s place on the ballot. Tina Smith was his manager for the very short campaign. She must have learned something, as she was picked to replace Franken, won the special election, and seems to have won the regular one this time.
Tina Smith doesn’t appear to be Jewish, or indeed of any religion at all.
Scarlett O’Number up there seems to think posting historical electoral information about Minnesota is trolling, so I’ll cut it out and go to bed. Not worth the bother.
Final outcome of the election, wordlessly:
Nikole Hannah-Joneshttps://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1323787949058785283Replies: @syonredux, @El Dato, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @AndrewR, @Twinkie, @AndrewR
The search for wreckers begins!
More broadly, white people also seem to have a culturally suicidal tendency that persists across space and time. Is there any other ethnic group in the entire world who flocks to follow people who hate them in such large numbers?Replies: @Rosie
I don’t know what makes you think women are more susceptible to university brainwashing than men. If you look at the difference between college and non-college Whites in the 2016, the spread was actually wider for men ( 53 vs. 71) than women (44 vs. 61).
https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls
That said, I certainly agree with you that university brainwashing is very powerful.
Blackmail.
Minnesota peeps just want it to stop.
Nikole Hannah-Joneshttps://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1323787949058785283Replies: @syonredux, @El Dato, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @AndrewR, @Twinkie, @AndrewR
She added, underneath her breath: DELENDA EST LATINO
Conspiracy theory types have been pointing out oddities in Minnesota since at least George Floyd’s death, and probably way before. So maybe it’s just a very corrupt state. (Ron Unz might have a hypothesis here.)
It’s been a destination for a lot of young itinerant workers with no real career prospects and a predilection for drug use. Nothing much to lose, lots of unfocused anger at ‘the system’ for not providing them with any meaning in life. This is an easy to radicalize group. Also, liberal-lefty ideology has run to a looney extreme spawning a quasi-religion of PC cult-think. It takes a lot of education to not see what’s right in front of you.
I voted in person on Friday. They scanned the bar code on my sample ballot, but no ID requirements to vote. I filled in the black squares on a goddamn paper ballot before they scanned the ballot.
I like the idea of a hard copy for backup and an electronic copy for tabulation. Kudos, Orange County.
Both my sample ballot and my mail-in ballot were hanging out of my mailbox, available for anyone to steal in a city of gangsters. The whole system is now ripe for fraud here in California.
Even the labor unions have a secret vote. What happened to our system where we do not enjoy this right?
The only thing that concerns me right now is Fulton County and Philadelphia. They will try to steal a bunch of electoral votes.
If Trump wins Michigan and Wisconsin, he won’t even need Philadelphia / PA. I guess Georgia will also be in play tomorrow.
https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls
That said, I certainly agree with you that university brainwashing is very powerful.Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
Maybe he knows a lot of women?
The equivalent of “if you ain’t for me, you ain’t black”.
Minnesotans are liberals to their core. In the long run, they’ll get more red but only as they feel more pain from diversity. It’s hard to give up that good feeling you get from being preachy.
Right, it has nothing to do with the fact that Cubans have experience with “actual existing socialism” and are highly allergic to anything that reeks of it. They can smell a red diaper baby like Kamala a mile away.
I really didn’t understand Biden’s choice of Kamala. Blacks already vote 100% Dem. Did he think that by picking a black they would vote 110% Dem?
Turns out ol' St. George may have OD Biden along with himself.Replies: @MBlanc46
I suspect that the rulers of the Democrat Party picked Biden for two reasons. First, because of his electability. Biden's faux working class origins and aw shucks, common man persona appeal to those who still see the Democrat Party as it was back in the 1950s and 1960s. Second, and more important, because he's basically serving as a stalking horse for the Democrat establishment. His obvious mental decrepitude and his family's financial corruption will make it easy for the Party establishment to control him. Even better, if he dies or descends into an obvious state of dementia, the Party establishment will decide how the succession to the Presidency plays out.
Harris is a perfect tool for those who control the Democrat Party. Her XX chromosomes, dark skin, mixed, mostly non-White racial origins, and Jewish husband will appeal to a large bloc of the Party's base during the election. However, as her 3% showing in the primaries demonstrates, she has no solid base of political support within the Party. If the Biden-Harris ticket wins and Harris at some point replaces a defunct Biden, she will be utterly dependent on the establishment for her political survival and will become their easily manipulated tool.
The Democrat Party is not democratic. It has not been democratic since the McGovernite usurpation. This ensures that the Party establishment controls the Party. The Republican Party still retains vestiges of a democratic process for selecting candidates. This greatly disturbs the combined establishments of both parties since it allows the nomination of populist and other wild cards, like Trump, and hinders direct control by the united party establishments.Replies: @Prof. Woland
They tend to put a lot of stock in being good, decent, right-thinking team-players, and that makes them susceptible to authority figures propounding all sorts of nonsense, if it’s packaged as an idea that no decent, right thinking person would object to.
They take a perverse pride in being wrong.
And Trump was (perhaps wisely) so obsessed with not inciting the black vote (and actually winning some of it) that he and the GOP don't seem to have used them much in their campaign ads.
It's hard for Minnesotans to vote for Trump as an alternative to rioting when he's not presenting himself as an alternative to rioting.Replies: @AnotherDad
Spot on in my book.
Trump made noises about it. Molecules of nitrogen, oxygen, argon, etc. vibrated. But a coherent attack on what the Democrats were up to and how just plain vile it is–the importance of “the rule-of-law” to civilization itself–Trump’s just not up to it.
Yes, he’s working against the lying media … yes, that makes explicating this stuff clearly and forcefully all the more imperative.
~~~
BTW, i saw Trump’s speech/conversation a while back. Terrible. One could say “heat rather than light”, but it was really “noise rather than light”.
We–nationalists, conservatives, HBD realists, traditionalists–really need to take to heart Trump’s deficiencies and find strong candidates who have the level of communication skills to get critical ideas across to both working class and college educated middle class people.
Tom Cotton looks very appealing on paper. Not as familiar with how he does live. And of course Tucker Carlson is incredibly smart.
But the kind of politicians I like tend to be the kinds that some people say have "punchable faces." Oh, you don't want to "drink a beer" with the guy who has control of the nuclear codes? Well I guess he can't be president then.
A Western European survey found that Sweden had the lowest percentage of citizens with nationalist/populist political views (something like 35 percent). France actually came out on top (with 63 percent) while Britain was somewhere in the middle.
Having said that, the Swedish Democrats have been much more successful than the likes of the BNP, so nationalist political views don’t always translate into votes for nationalist parties.
So both the SD and FN have become more left wing economic populist and immigration restrictionist as their constituents went from right-wing nationalists to more general working class voters.
The big example is the Danish People's Party. Denmark is far from a right wing nationalist party, but the views of the DPP on immigration were highly popular. They managed to get control of immigration policy at the right time late 90s/early 00s when it began to ramp up and just stopped the diaspora communities getting footholds. They were just junior members of a coalition government but managed a huge strategic victory and now Denmark has fewer immigrants and descendants of immigrants than any other Western European country, conspicuously so for such a high wage welfare state.
I really didn't understand Biden's choice of Kamala. Blacks already vote 100% Dem. Did he think that by picking a black they would vote 110% Dem?Replies: @AnotherDad, @black sea, @Mr. Anon, @AndrewR, @Twodees Partain, @Jus' Sayin'...
Another thing that fell out of the Democrats decision to go all in on riots. Stupid Joe had painted himself into a corner and now his original thought (i’d assume) of a nice midwestern while lady seemed “out of touch”.
Turns out ol’ St. George may have OD Biden along with himself.
I think the real story has been the political radicalisation of middle and upper middle class women, particularly young women during the last 4 years through social media and MSM. As well as the media influence of this political radicalisation.
The decoupling of the Rep presidential vote from middle/upper middle class suburbs has been significant, the political realignment is happening. (Though, whether after Trump it can keep going is my question, will there be economically populist Reps after him? I can’t see it.) The question is, can the Republican party express this change in it’s constituents and their interests fast enough to make hay of it? Likely not given the continued sperging about Biden being a socialist.
This was an election over religion. Men may hate Trump but they don’t despise him in the same way. Men are not as religious as women.
The bigger question is, can Republicans hope to win an election after Trump is gone? Ethnic block voting by non-whites and Reaganite lack of any economic populism from the Republicans will create a logic will be hard to break.
Did anyone else notice Dana Bash doing the shifty Krugman talk about demographic change every second she was on last night?
https://time.com/magazine/
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/10/22/USAT/f8dc97a3-072d-49ef-b1b9-15ce8e448a9b-TIM201102_Vote.Cover.FINAL.jpg
Young, Asian and LARPing as a street fighter in full knowledge that they are in zero danger and that no cop will ever dare to get a sneaky punch in when arresting them. That's basically the pose of every young Asian woman in America right now and a huge amount of young white women from middle/upper middle class background.Replies: @Mikael_
But anyway, we voters all came back to our original paradigms and said it's still D vs. R or liberal vs. conservative, and to the victor, the spoils. To me, those categories are all but meaningless now. I see it as chaos vs. order or prosperity vs. failure or freedom vs. restrictions.Replies: @Twodees Partain
I really didn't understand Biden's choice of Kamala. Blacks already vote 100% Dem. Did he think that by picking a black they would vote 110% Dem?Replies: @AnotherDad, @black sea, @Mr. Anon, @AndrewR, @Twodees Partain, @Jus' Sayin'...
The Dems wanted some color on the ticket, and Biden had already pledged to pick a woman. That didn’t leave them with too many choices. Plus, Kamala is a reliable lackey of TPTB, and Biden was (is?) an easily displaced figure, which is not to say that he isn’t a lackey as well. The people pulling the strings probably figured that they would get along nicely with a President Kamala, and this was the best way to “grease her skids,” so to speak.
I really didn't understand Biden's choice of Kamala. Blacks already vote 100% Dem. Did he think that by picking a black they would vote 110% Dem?Replies: @AnotherDad, @black sea, @Mr. Anon, @AndrewR, @Twodees Partain, @Jus' Sayin'...
She was the preferred choice of the big-money donors. I think they forced her on Biden, knowing that – if he wins – he’ll get the boot in short order, making Harris the President.
Time gets it, sorry ‘Vote’ gets it.
https://time.com/magazine/
Young, Asian and LARPing as a street fighter in full knowledge that they are in zero danger and that no cop will ever dare to get a sneaky punch in when arresting them. That’s basically the pose of every young Asian woman in America right now and a huge amount of young white women from middle/upper middle class background.
Asian women in the US are on average much more conservative than (young) white women across the whole country.The extreme ones you see because they draw the attention, are just the very few [Asian women] who want to get rich/famous/whatever by all means possible.
Most of them however still try to reach the same through hard work. That's also why most Asians in the US are -surprising to me at first- against unfettered immigration because they know what types such an approach draws in.Unfortunately for Trump, most Asians (here including men) don't care enough about politics to make a well-researched vote, or vote at all.Replies: @Rosie
It’s the habitrail Steve. Humans are not meant to live in rodent warrens. Yet Minnesotans daily run around their city like hamsters.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2316072/Poignant-pictures-decaying-crime-ridden-housing-estate-fallen-ruin-remaining-residents-await-bulldozers.html
Liverpool put them in the city.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/nostalgia/gallery/liverpools-lost-network-walkways-sky-18798557Replies: @Stan d Mute
“Every other minority” lol
There are certainly Afro-Cubans in the US, and some have Taíno ancestry, but most Cubans in the US don’t need a “path to whiteness,” because they are white. And they’re not selling out “other minorities.” Imagine being black with a chip on your shoulder and told this white girl is just as oppressed as you just because her name is Spanish.
And as an actual white supremacist, I assure this ugly creature that Trump does not appeal to us. At all.
Nikole Hannah-Joneshttps://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1323787949058785283Replies: @syonredux, @El Dato, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @AndrewR, @Twinkie, @AndrewR
The responses to that are largely an exercise in idiocy, as is to be expected when Americans discuss Latinos. Wells actually says some sensible things in that thread, before showing her ass by saying that blacks were being murdered in the 1950s for “looking at white women.” Emmitt Till was a huge outlier: rapist’s son from Chicago. And I don’t feel like reading up on his oh-so-tragic story, but IIRC the defendants denied doing it until they were acquitted, then their admission to the crime got them shunned by their “racist” community.
I really didn't understand Biden's choice of Kamala. Blacks already vote 100% Dem. Did he think that by picking a black they would vote 110% Dem?Replies: @AnotherDad, @black sea, @Mr. Anon, @AndrewR, @Twodees Partain, @Jus' Sayin'...
Trump got what seems to be a record black vote this year for any Republican in decades. And part of campaigns isn’t just encouraging people to vote for you, but discouraging your opponent’s base from voting at all if they can’t bring themselves to vote for you. This is such a basic concept I’m kind of shocked you need it explained at all.
Self hating white liberals, so twisted and pathetic.
Minnesota is a real worry, maybe early voting didn’t help. Clear places like Arizona are gone, Texas and Georgia are going, this can be countered in the rust belt but will need Minnesota too. The old divisions based on the original settlement patterns are shifting to a more racial one. The ethnic European Latinos in Miami Dade are uniting with blue collar Whites in Pennsylvania.
Nikole Hannah-Joneshttps://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1323787949058785283Replies: @syonredux, @El Dato, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @AndrewR, @Twinkie, @AndrewR
And that’s not even true, as of now.
Having said that, the Swedish Democrats have been much more successful than the likes of the BNP, so nationalist political views don't always translate into votes for nationalist parties.Replies: @Altai
There’s a big difference between the vote base for right-wing nationalism and the vote base for immigration restriction. The nucleus of immigration restriction parties is often right-wing nationalist because that’s all you can get in modern Western countries.
So both the SD and FN have become more left wing economic populist and immigration restrictionist as their constituents went from right-wing nationalists to more general working class voters.
The big example is the Danish People’s Party. Denmark is far from a right wing nationalist party, but the views of the DPP on immigration were highly popular. They managed to get control of immigration policy at the right time late 90s/early 00s when it began to ramp up and just stopped the diaspora communities getting footholds. They were just junior members of a coalition government but managed a huge strategic victory and now Denmark has fewer immigrants and descendants of immigrants than any other Western European country, conspicuously so for such a high wage welfare state.
I’m not sure higher levels of aggregate agreeableness and homogeneity are correlated with low creativity.
It’s more that they were more supportive of redistributive politics and many Jewish socialists went there to make political careers because they had a shot at being elected out there.
Confirmation bias.
More nonsense. It appears that White women’s support for Trump will have held steady at the very least, contra my own prediction.
https://youtu.be/TfKl4hhI_GIReplies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Libre
That’s amazing. They used to build walkways like that in city council estate blocks (‘projects’) all over the UK in the Sixties. They soon learned better, and most of those flats are now demolished.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2316072/Poignant-pictures-decaying-crime-ridden-housing-estate-fallen-ruin-remaining-residents-await-bulldozers.html
Liverpool put them in the city.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/nostalgia/gallery/liverpools-lost-network-walkways-sky-18798557
https://downtownokc.com/underground/
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https://time.com/magazine/
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/10/22/USAT/f8dc97a3-072d-49ef-b1b9-15ce8e448a9b-TIM201102_Vote.Cover.FINAL.jpg
Young, Asian and LARPing as a street fighter in full knowledge that they are in zero danger and that no cop will ever dare to get a sneaky punch in when arresting them. That's basically the pose of every young Asian woman in America right now and a huge amount of young white women from middle/upper middle class background.Replies: @Mikael_
Now that’s just plain wrong.
Asian women in the US are on average much more conservative than (young) white women across the whole country.
The extreme ones you see because they draw the attention, are just the very few [Asian women] who want to get rich/famous/whatever by all means possible.
Most of them however still try to reach the same through hard work. That’s also why most Asians in the US are -surprising to me at first- against unfettered immigration because they know what types such an approach draws in.
Unfortunately for Trump, most Asians (here including men) don’t care enough about politics to make a well-researched vote, or vote at all.
Minnesota political and moral culture s practically pure Scandinavian, pure Germanic. And the phase of Germanic cultural loop is Gotterdammerung, death of the gods when the culture wishes death. So Minnesotans see BLM and Antifa riots as proof that they must embrace those who would shatter their nice world into smithereens.
I think all of the sane people left Minnesota after the BLM riots.
Asian women in the US are on average much more conservative than (young) white women across the whole country.The extreme ones you see because they draw the attention, are just the very few [Asian women] who want to get rich/famous/whatever by all means possible.
Most of them however still try to reach the same through hard work. That's also why most Asians in the US are -surprising to me at first- against unfettered immigration because they know what types such an approach draws in.Unfortunately for Trump, most Asians (here including men) don't care enough about politics to make a well-researched vote, or vote at all.Replies: @Rosie
Citation needed.
All Trump did in response to the riots was tweet “LAW AND ORDER!!!”
He didn’t bother sending federal forces anywhere until Portland in late summer. Then he pussied out and withdrew them after the governor and mayor whined about it.
So to answer the question: riot-hating Minnesotans don’t see any point in voting Trump because he won’t do anything to stop them.
Nikole Hannah-Joneshttps://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1323787949058785283Replies: @syonredux, @El Dato, @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @AndrewR, @Twinkie, @AndrewR
Oh I just noticed your caption there.
It’s not “tension in the BIPOC coalition” because, as she accurately points out, white Hispanics aren’t BIPoC.
We are at the stage of anti-white IDpol that the top race hustlers don’t see any point in continuing to pretend that white Hispanics aren’t white.
What order are votes being counted in Minnesota? Were all the mail in / absentee / etc. counted first? Or are they still out there in car trunks being held in reserve?Replies: @Twodees Partain
Mail-in ballots are counted twice: early and last. The totals of that class of ballots announced before and after polls closed will be nearly identical.
Why? Seriously, why count one category of ballots twice? It's just another way to shove 1,000 more ballots in at the last minute.
The totals of that class of ballots announced before and after polls closed will be nearly identical.
For what definition of "nearly", I wonder? How was it that Al Franken was selected to the Senate, again? Something about ballots found in a car trunk in a parking garage, after all the Repuke votes had been counted...like a Festivus miracle?
This is why stuff like provisional ballots, same day voter registration, early voting, mail in voting, etc. is problematic. Because it creates little cracks in what should be a straightforward system, cracks where crooks can hide out.
120 or so years ago the Progressives were all about clean elections. They were opposing the corruption of the big city machines like NYC's Boss Tweed so they wanted voter rolls to be purged of fake names and dead people every few years. They wanted only legit voters casting ballots, and were behind such things as initiative/referendum. Today's Progressives are undoing just about all of the election reforms of the 1900-era Progressives, in the name of Goo Government. End justifies the means, I guess.Replies: @Twodees Partain
I really didn't understand Biden's choice of Kamala. Blacks already vote 100% Dem. Did he think that by picking a black they would vote 110% Dem?Replies: @AnotherDad, @black sea, @Mr. Anon, @AndrewR, @Twodees Partain, @Jus' Sayin'...
To judge by reported vote totals, democrats always get 150% of the black vote.
He didn’t bother sending federal forces anywhere until Portland in late summer. Then he pussied out and withdrew them after the governor and mayor whined about it.
Sending in more troops would have the reverse effect.
No one in Portland voted for Biden thinking that he would have cracked down on protestors.
We are dealing with a religion that holds riots and looting to be the fault of Whites like Trump.
Whites are ultimately responsible for any actions of the aggrieved.
They tend to put a lot of stock in being good, decent, right-thinking team-players, and that makes them susceptible to authority figures propounding all sorts of nonsense, if it’s packaged as an idea that no decent, right thinking person would object to.
They are very vulnerable to a basic liberal belief that if we were are all nice and educated then everything would be fine.
But once you start breaking down what they believe to be the educated view you run into major problems. What about evidence that suggests racial inequality isn’t merely the fault of Whites? Oh let’s just not talk about that. So now we are excluding reality from education? Who gets to decide what is excluded and why?
It’s this veneer of intellectualism that is really just group think for the sake of getting along. But then when you have conflict like riots you have to double down on blaming Whites and conforming to half baked explanations. You end up having to lie and shame people that tell the truth.
I remember reading an article from a Nord in Minnesota on how White liberals are actually to blame for racial inequality in the schools. She noted how the school system was dominated by liberals and yet there was still a racial gap. In her mind there must be some type of subconscious racism still at play and training was still needed. There couldn’t possibly be any other explanation. It was the educated view after all that race doesn’t exist.
Anyone who has been around Nords should not be surprised that they so easily fall into egalitarian cult thinking. They have a natural aversion to conflict resulting from inequality. What we are dealing with are egalitarian genes that go haywire with globalist ideals of equality. Such genes were useful when trying to survive long and cold winters as a group but go bonkers in a multi racial society.
It isn’t by chance that Sweden has some of the most suppressive levels of censorship in Europe. You can be sent to prison for posting data related to race if a judge simply feels you are being divisive.
Republican, not red.
It could well be suffering Stockholm Syndrome…. Swedish Americans distribution
I really didn't understand Biden's choice of Kamala. Blacks already vote 100% Dem. Did he think that by picking a black they would vote 110% Dem?Replies: @AnotherDad, @black sea, @Mr. Anon, @AndrewR, @Twodees Partain, @Jus' Sayin'...
Biden didn’t pick Harris. The Democrat Party’s establishment and their financial backers picked Biden’s running mate, just as they picked Biden to be the head of the ticket by knocking Bernie Sanders out of the primary.
I suspect that the rulers of the Democrat Party picked Biden for two reasons. First, because of his electability. Biden’s faux working class origins and aw shucks, common man persona appeal to those who still see the Democrat Party as it was back in the 1950s and 1960s. Second, and more important, because he’s basically serving as a stalking horse for the Democrat establishment. His obvious mental decrepitude and his family’s financial corruption will make it easy for the Party establishment to control him. Even better, if he dies or descends into an obvious state of dementia, the Party establishment will decide how the succession to the Presidency plays out.
Harris is a perfect tool for those who control the Democrat Party. Her XX chromosomes, dark skin, mixed, mostly non-White racial origins, and Jewish husband will appeal to a large bloc of the Party’s base during the election. However, as her 3% showing in the primaries demonstrates, she has no solid base of political support within the Party. If the Biden-Harris ticket wins and Harris at some point replaces a defunct Biden, she will be utterly dependent on the establishment for her political survival and will become their easily manipulated tool.
The Democrat Party is not democratic. It has not been democratic since the McGovernite usurpation. This ensures that the Party establishment controls the Party. The Republican Party still retains vestiges of a democratic process for selecting candidates. This greatly disturbs the combined establishments of both parties since it allows the nomination of populist and other wild cards, like Trump, and hinders direct control by the united party establishments.
The country will quickly sour on Harris. Whatever reservoir of goodwill that once existed will have long since disappeared. That was the carrot but it is gone. I read one comment somewhere that said, “Just treat her like Sara Palin”. Or like Trump. I suspect that much of the impetus behind the BLM push was that it was always intended to be the stick the Democrats would wield to rule.
As they say you have to earn the carrot but the stick comes free.
Minnesota believes in appeasement. But this attitude can’t last.
IT DOESN'T WORK!
I have lived in Minnesota for 52 years. Right now there is a split between rural (red) and urban (blue). Labor unions, in particular public sector unions, deliver large numbers of voters in return for generous working conditions and pensions. Only exception is the police. Left leaning churches have pushed entry of immigration, legal and otherwise, which further swells the ranks. Outstate agricultural interests loved getting cheap, illegal Hispanics to work. Public schools have done their best to brainwash young generations into believing white is evil. You’re welcome.
YO, Andrea…why don’t you go back to your home on Whore Island.
The vast majority of Cubans in Florida ARE White; the older ones the Middle Class/Upper Middle Class/Upper Class that took off when the Commies took over Cuba.
Their descendent families NOT Mud Creatures like the Spanish language critters Reekins, DR Negritos and Central American Squat Monsters.
You, otoh, have sold yourself some Hard Lefty bullshit, should shut your taco hole, go find some other Lefty twat yapper…and both of you jump out of a high window.
? Entiendes ?
What’s wrong with Minnesota? Same as so many other areas: Too many race traitors and niggers. Clear enough?
Mail-in ballots are counted twice: early and last.
Why? Seriously, why count one category of ballots twice? It’s just another way to shove 1,000 more ballots in at the last minute.
The totals of that class of ballots announced before and after polls closed will be nearly identical.
For what definition of “nearly”, I wonder? How was it that Al Franken was selected to the Senate, again? Something about ballots found in a car trunk in a parking garage, after all the Repuke votes had been counted…like a Festivus miracle?
This is why stuff like provisional ballots, same day voter registration, early voting, mail in voting, etc. is problematic. Because it creates little cracks in what should be a straightforward system, cracks where crooks can hide out.
120 or so years ago the Progressives were all about clean elections. They were opposing the corruption of the big city machines like NYC’s Boss Tweed so they wanted voter rolls to be purged of fake names and dead people every few years. They wanted only legit voters casting ballots, and were behind such things as initiative/referendum. Today’s Progressives are undoing just about all of the election reforms of the 1900-era Progressives, in the name of Goo Government. End justifies the means, I guess.
The election thieves underestimated the number of fake votes needed in 2016 and improved their game during the midterms. They have it pretty well dialed in now. Only a well coordinated series of challenges to these fake counts will stop the theft, and republicans will fumble that ball, as usual.
Your post was all over the place, but I think what it comes down to is that white Americans just keep right on voting like they always have, apparently oblivious to the all the demographic changes around them. It’s still liberal vs. conservative in most people’s minds. I would have thought that Trump would have dispelled all that thinking with his absurd (and highly likeable) speeches and colossal spending. Does anybody have a category to put him in other than Donald Trump?
But anyway, we voters all came back to our original paradigms and said it’s still D vs. R or liberal vs. conservative, and to the victor, the spoils. To me, those categories are all but meaningless now. I see it as chaos vs. order or prosperity vs. failure or freedom vs. restrictions.
That's certainly true of the old line southern blue dog democrats. However, most of them are probably north of 90 by now, so their oblivious voting habits are understandable. For the rest, the oblivious voting by habit might just come from relying on TV news outlets for their info.
Funny, next door Norway had some hi-flyers: Munch, Greig, Ibsen.
Well, many of them are Scandinavian in origin.
TDS can only account for ~ ⅗ of Sleepy’s votes.
One must conclude that Gophers, and indeed the vast majority of Americans, believe that gigantic, colossal government, of the sort that Bernie envisions (93.5% of which Trump agrees with, BTW), is the way to go.
Jorgensen, the LP (symbolic, small government) candidate captured 1.1% nationwide. That’s more-or-less the same dismal total that the party has always garnered.
RE: White Cubans,
Everybody in the South certainly seemed to think that Consuelo Yznaga was White:
Her siblings also seemed to do OK in High Society circles:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consuelo_Montagu,_Duchess_of_Manchester
She was also known for singing pro-Confederate songs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_a_Good_Ol%27_Rebel
Everybody in the South certainly seemed to think that Consuelo Yznaga was White:Her siblings also seemed to do OK in High Society circles:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consuelo_Montagu,_Duchess_of_Manchester
She was also known for singing pro-Confederate songs:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_a_Good_Ol%27_RebelReplies: @syonredux
Her brother was a really popular guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Yznaga
I know that many people are attributing Minnesota’s politics to its Scandinavian heritage. There may be some truth to that, but it is not the whole story. Neighboring North Dakota has a higher percentage of its population claiming Scandinavian descent than Minnesota (36.1% vs 32.1%) but it is a reliably red state. Even in Minnesota, most of the rural counties dominated by people of Scandinavian heritage voted for Trump by comfortable margins.
Trump made noises about it. Molecules of nitrogen, oxygen, argon, etc. vibrated. But a coherent attack on what the Democrats were up to and how just plain vile it is--the importance of "the rule-of-law" to civilization itself--Trump's just not up to it.
Yes, he's working against the lying media ... yes, that makes explicating this stuff clearly and forcefully all the more imperative.
~~~
BTW, i saw Trump's speech/conversation a while back. Terrible. One could say "heat rather than light", but it was really "noise rather than light".
We--nationalists, conservatives, HBD realists, traditionalists--really need to take to heart Trump's deficiencies and find strong candidates who have the level of communication skills to get critical ideas across to both working class and college educated middle class people.Replies: @Wilkey, @MBlanc46
Fully in agreement. But you go to war with the army you have, not the army you want. It’s a pity Ted Cruz isn’t more likeable. He really is one smart dude. I have never seen him speak or debate and not be impressed.
Tom Cotton looks very appealing on paper. Not as familiar with how he does live. And of course Tucker Carlson is incredibly smart.
But the kind of politicians I like tend to be the kinds that some people say have “punchable faces.” Oh, you don’t want to “drink a beer” with the guy who has control of the nuclear codes? Well I guess he can’t be president then.
Look at the number of votes cast, the increase in number of voters which scales with Trump’s increased vote count, and the election day increase in voters:
2016: 3,270,734 voters registered before election day, 353,179 voters registered on election day, Hillary 1,367,716 votes and Trump 1,322,951 votes. Total number of votes cast (2,968,281) was 91% of the pre-election number of registered voters.
2020: 3,588,563 voters registered before election day, no data yet on new election day registrations, Biden 1,693, 901 votes and Trump 1,462,105. Total votes cast (3,229,516) was 90% 9f the pre-election number of registered voters.
So Trump added 139,154 votes to his 2016 total, a 10.5% increase. The number of registered voters increased by 9.7% and turnout did not fall. Biden added 326,185 votes to Hillary’s total or a gain of 23.8%.
Minnesota’s population rose by about 140,000 between 2016 and 2020, so the increase in voters of more than 260,000 over 2016’s tops-in-the-nation voter participation represents a tremendous eagerness to vote on the part of Minnesotans.
The logical conclusion is either that (a) there was tremendously more enthusiasm for Biden than for the first female presidential candidate, leading to vastly higher Democratic turnout and registration of first-time voters eager to vote for Biden, or (b) Democrats in Minnesota can manufacture as many voters and votes as they need to win the election, no matter how many human hearts Trump captures.
I disproved this before – at least the part about the Jewish senators. One Senate seat was held by four different Jews over a period of about 40 years, which is what gives you the impression that Minnesota’s politics are dominated by Jews.
Rudy Boschwitz (R) held the seat for two terms, then Paul Wellstone (D) defeated him. Wellstone died in a plane crash and the seat was held by Norm Coleman (R) for a term. Coleman was beaten by Al Franken (D), who won it by the margin of fraud, and then resigned in his second term amidst scandal.
So all you really have is a Minnesota Senate seat that turned into a Jewish seat for a while, with the other seat always being held by one of us goys.
Yes, it is kind of weird and interesting that one Jew kept replacing another, but there are a lot of talented Jews. If the seat had been held by the same Jewish guy for seven terms no one would have thought much of it.
Those four Jews are, iirc, the only four Jews ever to be senators in Minnesota history. Neither of Minnesota’s current senators is Jewish, and Minnesota politics doesn’t appear to be any more disproportionately Jewish than the rest of the country.
1. The only reason people would dislike the cops is because they subscribe to woke ideology.
2.Woke ideology is unpopular.(See Liz Warren’s poor performance in the Democratic primary as the candidate of woke vocabulary.)
3. The few that subscribe to it would never vote for Trump anyway.
4. Therefore, Trump portraying himself as the pro-cop candidate cannot hurt him.
The problem is that statement 1 is just not correct. A large fraction of the country hates the cops for reasons that are totally orthogonal to what the media is blathering about at the moment. If you struggle to understand why, just think back to when you were 7 years old. Think back to the other 7 year olds. The bulk of them didn’t like the “tattle-tales.” If you were one of them, you probably grew out of it, but many people never did. Cops are killjoys.
I’m not saying that Republicans shouldn’t take action against the 99.999999999% peaceful protests. Rather, I want much more than all-talk-no-action Trump did. But that I have sympathy for the victims doesn’t mean I must see my preferred policy as a guaranteed political winner. I think in the long term, it probably will be. People will get sick of the 99.999999999% peaceful protests, just as they got sick of the last experiment.Replies: @Wency, @Libre
Yeah, I think this is accurate.
The median American, age 38, can, at best, just barely remember when the last great crime wave happened in the early 90s. I’m close to that age, and I remember it, but I have a scary childhood near-miss encounter seared into my memory from one of my family’s few forays into downtown after dark (which I sometimes speculate is linked to my lifelong uncompromising views on law and order).
For most people, even older people, memories of the 1960s-90s crime waves are fuzzy. And it took many years of breakdown before we reached the point where being painted “soft on crime” was the death knell of any politician’s career.
Assuming American democracy survives, I have little doubt the left will overreach here again, and it will probably be closely tied to their worst electoral loss of the next few decades. But we’re just not there yet, and it was too easy, for those inclined to do so, to assign the blame to Trump for provoking it.
1. Most Minnesota voters were not affected by the violence
2. Most voters hate Trump more than they hate sporadic violence
3. Self-hating white cucks think the riots and mayhem are justifiable
I suspect that the rulers of the Democrat Party picked Biden for two reasons. First, because of his electability. Biden's faux working class origins and aw shucks, common man persona appeal to those who still see the Democrat Party as it was back in the 1950s and 1960s. Second, and more important, because he's basically serving as a stalking horse for the Democrat establishment. His obvious mental decrepitude and his family's financial corruption will make it easy for the Party establishment to control him. Even better, if he dies or descends into an obvious state of dementia, the Party establishment will decide how the succession to the Presidency plays out.
Harris is a perfect tool for those who control the Democrat Party. Her XX chromosomes, dark skin, mixed, mostly non-White racial origins, and Jewish husband will appeal to a large bloc of the Party's base during the election. However, as her 3% showing in the primaries demonstrates, she has no solid base of political support within the Party. If the Biden-Harris ticket wins and Harris at some point replaces a defunct Biden, she will be utterly dependent on the establishment for her political survival and will become their easily manipulated tool.
The Democrat Party is not democratic. It has not been democratic since the McGovernite usurpation. This ensures that the Party establishment controls the Party. The Republican Party still retains vestiges of a democratic process for selecting candidates. This greatly disturbs the combined establishments of both parties since it allows the nomination of populist and other wild cards, like Trump, and hinders direct control by the united party establishments.Replies: @Prof. Woland
I fundamentally agree with you regarding Harris’ controllability by the party. Her zero popular support will mean that she will be entirely dependent on her party apparatus including media and money. Biden is just a place holder. He will be taken out at the earliest opportunity by either the $40 million in bribe money / Hunter-crack-pedo scandals or the 25th Amendment but either way he is gone fast.
The country will quickly sour on Harris. Whatever reservoir of goodwill that once existed will have long since disappeared. That was the carrot but it is gone. I read one comment somewhere that said, “Just treat her like Sara Palin”. Or like Trump. I suspect that much of the impetus behind the BLM push was that it was always intended to be the stick the Democrats would wield to rule.
As they say you have to earn the carrot but the stick comes free.
What’s the matter with Minnesota? Oh, they like the sight of their cities on fire. Fire represents warmth to them, since their brains have been frozen so long by the ice cold weather. Yeah, it’s genetic. Brain freezing down through the generations causes confusion and disoriented judgement, detrimental to ones wellbeing.. I’d like to read other theories on Minnesotan’s desire to have their cities burned down and their kids endangered as part of their supporting the democratic party leadership.
I dunno, I’ve been trying to figure that out since we moved up here a little over two years ago. Since I am fairly anti-social I don’t do a whole lot of jawboning with the neighbors. I did spy a Biden/Harris sign in the window of one of the town houses in the complex. Drive through the neighborhood and one can see a couple of BLM signs on a couple of lawns. Most of the political signs are for local races.
My in-laws run the gamut from politically indifferent to some zealous converts to the religion of critical race theory. The local school systems are pretty well infected. My wife is an RN for the school district and I’ve overheard some of the Zoom orientation meetings she has had to attend. Propaganda with a religious fervor.
It’s like lots of these people have a collective racial death wish. During the worst of the Minneapolis/St. Paul rioting the local television news media went out of their way to describe the action as “mostly peaceful.”
If Minnesotans truly voted for the democrats provided there was no cheating by the left, they’ve succumbed to the same liberal brain rot that inflicts the brains of the west coast states. Oregon is now going to legalize the hard drugs that have been banned for 100 years. Feel free to snort Cocaine in front of a cop in Portland, but if you have your covid mask off you’ll get arrested and punished to the full extent of the law.
Midwestern nice. That’s all you really need to understand. It does get its adherents into trouble from time to time. Your city was trashed and people’s lives were ruined. Sometimes you really have to speak up and say enough is enough. So be it if some people are offended.
Trump made noises about it. Molecules of nitrogen, oxygen, argon, etc. vibrated. But a coherent attack on what the Democrats were up to and how just plain vile it is--the importance of "the rule-of-law" to civilization itself--Trump's just not up to it.
Yes, he's working against the lying media ... yes, that makes explicating this stuff clearly and forcefully all the more imperative.
~~~
BTW, i saw Trump's speech/conversation a while back. Terrible. One could say "heat rather than light", but it was really "noise rather than light".
We--nationalists, conservatives, HBD realists, traditionalists--really need to take to heart Trump's deficiencies and find strong candidates who have the level of communication skills to get critical ideas across to both working class and college educated middle class people.Replies: @Wilkey, @MBlanc46
Trump, warts and all, was the only candidate that we had. And probably the only candidate that we will have, as the Repub cockroaches scurry back to safety beneath the Globohomo refrigerator.
Turns out ol' St. George may have OD Biden along with himself.Replies: @MBlanc46
I think it might have been more a matter of making her president when Old Uncle Joe is removed rather than attracting black votes.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2316072/Poignant-pictures-decaying-crime-ridden-housing-estate-fallen-ruin-remaining-residents-await-bulldozers.html
Liverpool put them in the city.
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/nostalgia/gallery/liverpools-lost-network-walkways-sky-18798557Replies: @Stan d Mute
And Minneapolis isn’t our weirdest … that must be Oklahoma City where they built a habitrail underground. Not a subway, a pedestrian underground habitrail..
https://downtownokc.com/underground/
That is how political correctness gets sold.
Appeasement is great except for one thing.
IT DOESN’T WORK!
Why? Seriously, why count one category of ballots twice? It's just another way to shove 1,000 more ballots in at the last minute.
The totals of that class of ballots announced before and after polls closed will be nearly identical.
For what definition of "nearly", I wonder? How was it that Al Franken was selected to the Senate, again? Something about ballots found in a car trunk in a parking garage, after all the Repuke votes had been counted...like a Festivus miracle?
This is why stuff like provisional ballots, same day voter registration, early voting, mail in voting, etc. is problematic. Because it creates little cracks in what should be a straightforward system, cracks where crooks can hide out.
120 or so years ago the Progressives were all about clean elections. They were opposing the corruption of the big city machines like NYC's Boss Tweed so they wanted voter rolls to be purged of fake names and dead people every few years. They wanted only legit voters casting ballots, and were behind such things as initiative/referendum. Today's Progressives are undoing just about all of the election reforms of the 1900-era Progressives, in the name of Goo Government. End justifies the means, I guess.Replies: @Twodees Partain
Yes, you get it. The strategies that have been established by a crazy quilt of local and state rules make it possible for one side or the other to use the first vote totals as a basis for determining how many fake votes are needed to overturn a result.
The election thieves underestimated the number of fake votes needed in 2016 and improved their game during the midterms. They have it pretty well dialed in now. Only a well coordinated series of challenges to these fake counts will stop the theft, and republicans will fumble that ball, as usual.
But anyway, we voters all came back to our original paradigms and said it's still D vs. R or liberal vs. conservative, and to the victor, the spoils. To me, those categories are all but meaningless now. I see it as chaos vs. order or prosperity vs. failure or freedom vs. restrictions.Replies: @Twodees Partain
white Americans just keep right on voting like they always have, apparently oblivious to the all the demographic changes around them.
That’s certainly true of the old line southern blue dog democrats. However, most of them are probably north of 90 by now, so their oblivious voting habits are understandable. For the rest, the oblivious voting by habit might just come from relying on TV news outlets for their info.
Somali vote harvesting and a stubborn Iron range
1. The only reason people would dislike the cops is because they subscribe to woke ideology.
2.Woke ideology is unpopular.(See Liz Warren’s poor performance in the Democratic primary as the candidate of woke vocabulary.)
3. The few that subscribe to it would never vote for Trump anyway.
4. Therefore, Trump portraying himself as the pro-cop candidate cannot hurt him.
The problem is that statement 1 is just not correct. A large fraction of the country hates the cops for reasons that are totally orthogonal to what the media is blathering about at the moment. If you struggle to understand why, just think back to when you were 7 years old. Think back to the other 7 year olds. The bulk of them didn’t like the “tattle-tales.” If you were one of them, you probably grew out of it, but many people never did. Cops are killjoys.
I’m not saying that Republicans shouldn’t take action against the 99.999999999% peaceful protests. Rather, I want much more than all-talk-no-action Trump did. But that I have sympathy for the victims doesn’t mean I must see my preferred policy as a guaranteed political winner. I think in the long term, it probably will be. People will get sick of the 99.999999999% peaceful protests, just as they got sick of the last experiment.Replies: @Wency, @Libre
I hate cops because they arrested Kyle.
I hate cops because they confiscate firearms.
I hate cops because they stood down in Charlottesville and other leftist riots.
I hate cops because they’ve stolen hundreds of dollars from me over arcane BS while I transport myself from A to B.
I hope cops are wiped from the planet. The one thing I agree with the left on. I do not one iota understand why conservative and right lips are so tightly wound around police penii. These gangsters would hesitate not one bit to kill us all if ordered to do so.
I’ve lived in California and I’ve lived in Minnesota for the last 20 years. Both states are large rural states with huge numbers of conservatives and libertarians. Both states are corrupt to the core and run by small groups of statists. In general, there is nothing wrong with either state except for power being held ruthlessly and by any means they can get away with by a group most aptly labeled doctrinaire communists.
Unfortunately, they have kept the good guys on the defensive- I left California at age 25 with my guns hidden in blankets. Minnesota at least has an orange army bigger than the standing military of most countries. All the imported diversity, and the “culture” it carries with it, in Minneapolistan is making it worse.
Until the good guys realize that there is more to Romans 13 than to simply obey, this will continue.
https://youtu.be/TfKl4hhI_GIReplies: @YetAnotherAnon, @Libre
You and others say that, and yet we build them. Rodents are in fact our closest relative after other primates. Maybe termites or ants would be a better analog, however they are among the most advanced insects.
Literally everyone except tom cotton was against that. No one wants federal troops on their streets
I thought reactionaries wanted to go back to how things were 100 years ago
Well said, good analysis there.
One of the biggest lessons the Democrats will take way from 2020 is that political violence works. All the states hit the hardest by Antifa and BLM stuck with or switched (Wisconsin) to the Democrats.
Soros will not fail to notice this. Expect more funding of Antifa and more violence in the future.