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From my new column in Taki’s Mag azine:

Do Whites Have Civil Rights?

Steve Sailer

July 21, 2021

… Strange as it may seem, the Constitution, technically speaking, has not been abrogated in favor of the theories of Prof. Ibram X. Kendi. The Supreme Court can reinstate Constitutional principles such as equal protection whenever it chooses.

So, I am going to list a series of principles and actions that could help hold the country together peacefully. I’m not a lawyer, so I’m not going to engage in extended legal argumentation in support of them. You can hire lawyers to do that.

Many of these ideas are existing law, but have largely been forgotten. It is time for the Supreme Court to restate them in no uncertain terms.

And some of my proposals are not yet law but can be made so by judicial fiat.

The first principle must be that whites have civil rights. All antidiscrimination laws must protect whites as fully as nonwhites. The courts must articulate explicitly that whites are a protected class, same as any other race.

For example, the “hostile environment” case law that says you can’t harass students and workers on account of their race must protect white children and workers currently required to subject themselves to critical race theory harangues. CRT, wokeness, intersectionality, antiracism, social justice, or whatever you want to call it are all just euphemisms for racist harassment of whites, which is illegal.

Read the whole thing there.

 
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  1. Thanks Steve.

    From my boys.

    • Disagree: 3g4me
  2. Anonymous[272] • Disclaimer says:

    Thank you, Steve.

  3. Well, that would be nice.

    Will Chief Cuckstice Roberts agree?

  4. • Replies: @Goddard
    @Desiderius


    Nightmarish futures can avoided – their memories laughed at as the past absurdities of paranoiacs by succeeding generations who were saved from them.
     
    The entire mood of this era could turn on a dime. That's because it is built on a mountain of lies and absurdities. Unfortunately for us here in the United States, the shock that causes the edifice of lies to collapse will likely be negative.
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Desiderius

    "Nightmarish futures can avoided [sic]"

    The somewhat nightmarish present signals purgatory USA. This can be avoided if white dudes of a conservative bent junk their old saws, summon their ancestral spirits, and remove their handsome heads from their rears.

    , @Corvinus
    @Desiderius

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/15/american-democracy-survived-its-reichstag-fire-jan-6-threat-has-not-subsided

    Replies: @anon

  5. Don’t expect Amy “I cried with my black children when St George of Minneapolis was murdered” to help us. Clarence Thomas is the only one who could be counted on.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @AndrewR

    Alito would do the right thing on this issue also. How we lucked into George W. Bush appointing him we will never know. It appears the only two reliable Supreme Court Justices on racial issues were appointed by the Bush family, who will abhor their opinions in their desire to turn the U.S. into a Latin American type state. One of Trump's picks might also want to throw us a bone here, you are correct, it won't Amy Coney Barrett.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew

    , @Anonymous
    @AndrewR

    didn't Clarence Thomas call the "supreme court "a bunch of cowards during the 2020 elections ?

    and didn't the supreme court worried about the 2020 elections and why they stop the trump lawyers because they were worried about a civil war coming out of it.......

  6. Awful. The lawyer-justices are part of the problem; and they always will be.

    Make the USG budget (no “off”) as small as possible; $75B per year sounds about right. Then, no matter how much suck is contained therein, it won’t affect 329.9M Americans.

    I believe that by getting the small government revolution started at the state level, e.g. a_p_e, we can embarrass Washington enough to get it to self-downsize.

    • Troll: guest007
    • Replies: @Tono Bungay
    @Abolish_public_education

    I've been thinking about this perennial conservative goal of reducing the size of government. Historically, has it ever happened? What governments have actually been reduced in size, and how was that brought about? I ask because I am pessimistic on this score, and I fear that bloat and decay are irreversible.

    , @Anonymous
    @Abolish_public_education

    Wasteful state and (in certain metros) county agencies are the cause of such an incompetent national government. It would just tee up arguments for cleaning out Albany or Sacramento or Lansing, so our national civil servants by design aren't paid particularly well for the authority they're supposed to hold and service they're supposed to render. We're not sending our best. At no branch of the tree is our bureaucracy operated for any purpose aside from buying votes.

    As much as leftists complain about breakaway cities incorporating, largely for racial reasons -- see Los Angeles 60 years ago and Atlanta in this century -- it's really unlikely that jurisdictional loyalty is going to be a big popular cause on Tik Tok in the next decade. The present borders of the U.S. are just Cold War relics, not a Darwinian superpredator of country map shape.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Abolish_public_education


    Make the USG budget (no “off”) as small as possible; $75B per year sounds about right. Then, no matter how much suck is contained therein, it won’t affect 329.9M Americans.

    I believe that by getting the small government revolution started at the state level, e.g. a_p_e, we can embarrass Washington enough to get it to self-downsize.
     
    APE, you're not going to "embarrass" the super-state into anything.

    But beyond that the obvious improvement nationalists/conservatives could do on the state level is vouchers. Give parents the financial heft to pick the educational option for their kids. That gets around much of the CRT propaganda issue.

    But i've pointed that out before and you didn't like that either. I don't know what you program is, but it seems to be having parents foot all the bills from their own pocket at that moment in time. Which is ... ridiculous:

    -- Education--not necessarily all the b.s. in US schools, but literacy, numeracy--is pretty critical for economic development/performance. It's much, much, much better to be in a nation that is getting almost everyone (the retards aren't really important) educated; to have not just a well educated elite, but a literate/numerate working class.

    -- Fertility. We need higher middle class fertility not lower. Dumping all the education costs on young families--when they are just starting out and their incomes are low--is just stupid. It's a recipe for one-child-and-the-wife-goes-back-to-work-to-pay-for-private-school amongst the higher IQ classes. While the classes who don't care about education can keep popping out babies willy-nilly. More dumb people with minimal skills. Peachy.


    My kids are grown, and i'm paying several thousands in property taxes for public education. The education part doesn't bother me. I want the kids in my nation getting educated. What i object to is all the minoritarian lies and nonsense taught and the public sector featherbedding.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @anon

  7. anonymous[837] • Disclaimer says:

    I don’t see how CRT is going to destroy the US. What scenarios are you thinking will play out? In what timeline?

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don’t have a middle class to guide them.

    • Agree: PaceLaw, JohnPlywood
    • Replies: @anon
    @anonymous


    Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don’t have a middle class to guide them.
     
    Is there a class of educated blacks that is “guiding” that population? To the extent they are giving guidance, is it constructive?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    , @anon
    @anonymous

    I don’t see how CRT is going to destroy the US.

    Then you should read more. Start with Kendi's version of anti-racism. Add in reparations. Then active discrimination against white men, even more than we see today.

    Declaring 13% of the population as some kind of nobility won't work out well. The white working class people will be further ground down into a state of "nothing left to lose". Does that appeal to you?


    tl;dr
    CRT >>> "Crow Jim".

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    , @Wade Hampton
    @anonymous


    Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don’t have a (black) middle class to guide them.
     
    What nonsense.

    Just imagine how much worse off blacks would be in America without whites to guide them. Wait. We don't have to imagine. We just have to look at the entirety of Sub-Saharan Africa.
    , @International Jew
    @anonymous

    Depends what kind of middle class. The pre-1960s middle class of undertakers and other people doing honest work that provided useful services from inside the black community and exemplified bourgeois values was indeed a good and civilizing example. Today's middle class of affirmative action pets and professional grievance hustlers is anything but a good influence. The incentives our system offers blacks, from one end of their IQ distribution to the other, seems optimized to elicit bad behavior.

    , @Art Deco
    @anonymous

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don’t have a middle class to guide them.

    Are you being ironic?

    (1) They won't be 'worse' at all. Blacks in salaried employment or operating small businesses don't live in the slum districts where all the social problems are. With some exceptions (clergymen, undertakers), they don't work there either.

    (2) The components of the black bourgeoisie which have the most direct contact with feral young people are schoolteachers, school administrators, social workers, clergymen, police officers, and public defenders.

    (3) There was a black middle class prior to 1966. They actually lived and worked among other strata of the black population.

    (4) AA is salient in public employment and in private higher education. North of 80% of the black population does not work in these sectors.

    (5) If I'm not mistaken, sociological studies of the black population indicate that relationships between collateral relatives are quite tenuous compared to what prevails in the rest of the population.


    What happens if you get rid of AA is that the black segment of the higher ed student body falls from 14% to 7% and the sort of ringer who ends up on the faculty will at a much earlier stage be diverted to some other sort of employment. In other sorts of employment, the 30% or 50% who spend a number of years attempting to build a career in a line of work to which they're unsuitable will be sluiced to more appropriate employment. Letitia James wouldn't have spent 10 years as a bottom-of-the-barrell lawyer. She'd have done something else.

    Replies: @Dan Smith, @Paperback Writer

    , @Some Guy
    @anonymous


    One can artificially create a “black America” (i.e., an America that will fail) by making that 12.8% the standard. Every job, every entrance exam, every skill, must be dumbed down so that the 12.8% can do it. The 12.8% get free passes from arrest and incarceration. All movies and TV shows must involve the 12.8%. The 12.8% get veto power over everything. All human endeavors must revolve around the 12.8%, and nothing can occur that displeases the 12.8%.

    Where there are blacks, their opinion is what matters. Where there are no blacks, all actions must be based upon “What would blacks think?”
     
    - https://www.takimag.com/article/the-dysgenic-duo/
    , @Desiderius
    @anonymous

    https://twitter.com/YungSpengler/status/1417651699259428866?s=20

    This is not a drill.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Ben tillman, @Ralph L, @MEH 0910

    , @Desiderius
    @anonymous

    Mismatch is half the problem. It drains that very middle class from their communities.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @anonymous

    #837, much of the black middle class is in government, and I include lower education here. As old Ronnie would have said, they are not here to help you, as a White man, and, as #126 replied, they are really not here to lift up their fellow black people either. These jobs are just another welfare entitlement.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Bill Jones
    @anonymous


    Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America
     
    As they seem to express dissent by shooting other blacks, I honestly don't see the downside.
    , @Mr. Rational
    @anonymous


    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard.
     
    That part of the black "middle class" is fake.  It is not based on ability or work, but on quotas and entitlement.  It is dysgenic and dyscivilizational.

    Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don’t have a middle class to guide them.
     
    Let me say right here that I have no fucks left to give about blacks, but they would be much better off if their guidance came from legitimate successes rather than bad apples promoted far outside their competence for the sake of "optics".

    Replies: @anonymous

    , @Jack D
    @anonymous


    Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don’t have a middle class to guide them.
     
    (Unlike the past) middle class blacks are not the role model for ghetto blacks already so it couldn't be any worse than it is now. The first thing a black does upon gaining middle class status is move as far from the ghetto as possible (of course they bring the ghetto with them with their unruly kids in the back seat, but never mind). And ghetto blacks don't aspire to be accountants and pharmacists - their role models are rappers and pro-athletes.

    Replies: @J1234

    , @bomag
    @anonymous


    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard.
     
    Current AA effects are crippling the country beyond what a more honest policy would do.

    The current arc is killing off YT. The extant black middle class does not exist without YT.
    , @Currahee
    @anonymous

    "a middle class to guide them" The black middle class is composed entirely of govt. employees. They are just fine with the present state of affairs now that CRT is official govt. policy.

    , @CapitalistRoader
    @anonymous

    There's been a sizable (and growing) black middle class in the US for at least a century:


    Miles Dewey Davis III was born on May 26, 1926, to an affluent African-American family in Alton, Illinois, 15 miles north of St. Louis. His mother, Cleota Mae Henry of Arkansas, was a music teacher and violinist, and his father, Miles Dewey Davis Jr., also of Arkansas, was a dentist. They owned a 200-acre estate near Pine Bluff, Arkansas.
    – Wikipedia
     
  8. Brown vs. Board was 9-0, with the opinion written by the chief justice. These factors greatly enhanced its moral and legal authority. What Steve seeks would probably receive a 5-4 opinion, with 5 justices endorsing a general rule, while 4 justices wimp-out by writing a concurring opinion limiting the white rights to the narrow facts of the case. Advocates of unequal justice in America would then loudly proclaim victory; a divided court. In the shadow of this divided opinion, unequal justice would continue. In fact, it might be emboldened, and get worse.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @SafeNow

    There was nothing wrong with the Brown decision.

    Brown was a slam dunk because Linda Brown had to be bused out of her white neighborhood school to a black school. She just wanted to go to her local school. Anyone disagree with that?

    An avalanche of crazy decisions in the courts in essence overturned Brown to legalize busing for racial balance.

    And that is what is so insane about this country.

    , @bomag
    @SafeNow

    The victory is getting the court to even consider such things.

    , @AnotherDad
    @SafeNow


    Brown vs. Board was 9-0, with the opinion written by the chief justice. These factors greatly enhanced its moral and legal authority.
     
    Brown was a mess. May well turn out to be the worst decision--in its effects that the Supremes every dumped on us.

    If Cold War politics decreed an end to government segregation, they could have just done that. Decreed that while, of course, people were free to organize their private affairs however they liked, that the government could not racially discriminate in its programs.

    That would have been
    -- understandable to people
    -- a clear constitutional principle--although not what the 14th amendment actually said
    -- given southern states a clear direction--vouchers/educational choice--if white parents wanted to keep their kids out of heavily black schools/classrooms
    -- given us a decision--wrapped up in the flag and "history"--that would protect Americans from a lot of the minoritarian legal/political thuggery down the road.

    Instead we got a lot of (highly dubious) social-science driven mumbo-jumbo about segregation itself inducing inferiority, harming black self-esteem (LOL) ... and basically that it was whites' job to fix it. I.e. white people had to integrate with blacks for the benefit of blacks. "Integration" was some sort of law or the land. ("Civil rights" ... busing ... "affirmative action" ... "diversity"

    In other words: minoritarianism had its foot in the door. An opening to minoritarianism--that minoritarians have kept pushing on and on and on. (Busing ... "Civil Rights" ... "affirmative action" ... "disparate impact" ... "diversity is our greatest strength" ... homosexual marriage ... open borders ... "transgender" nonsense ... )

    The white majority must sacrifice its goals and desires, first its schools, neighborhoods ... then its jobs ... then its physical safety ... then its culture, its nation ... its civilization and existence as a people ... to accommodate precious oppressed minorities.


    Funny thing: blacks don't even want to integrate. They really don't want to be "white bread". Probably even more so than Jews (a mixed bag on that score). They like being black and don't want to change.

    This, of course, isn't that odd. Minorities tend to have strong affinity for their minority group/norms/behavior/culture ... or they wouldn't still be a minority, they'd have integrated already. Catholics still have their Catholic schools. The Golfocaust is long over, but Jews still have their Jewish clubs, and still do their ethnic networking. Schooling their kids and socializing (inc. churching) (leading toward marriage/reproduction) is, of course, where people most cling to their own.

    But the principle of minoritarianism is not actually "integration", but that the white gentile majority can't be allowed to have stuff of their own.


    Brown was a disaster. It didn't create minoritarianism--that push and propaganda--was coming anyway. But it could have made minoritarianism's rise much tougher. Instead it made it much easier. America deserved better.

    Replies: @anon, @Corvinus, @Jack D

  9. Will the majority on the Supreme Court step forward to save the country from racism and destruction by restoring the Constitution?

    Of course not. Fear of the FBI is the beginning of wisdom.

    • Agree: Old and Grumpy
    • Replies: @Anon7
    @WorkingClass

    I agree with this post. And yet.


    Taxpayer-funded programs to demonize and demoralize innocent white children as vengeance for the sins of long-gone co-ethnics are not only illegal (violating the ban on "hostile environment" harassment) but wicked.
     
    Steve Sailer makes a great moral point here, as well as a legal one. Use crowd funding to support a case that takes this to the Supreme Court.

    I’m old and cynical; I feel like I know what would happen. But I have children.

    I also have an obligation to the ones who fought (like my dad and his brother) and the ones who died to bring America this far.

    Don’t I?

    Replies: @James N. Kennett

  10. The Grutter decision did not come with a time limit, only the usual SCOTUS vagary designed to give them cover for stapling and mutilating the constitution. It’s of the same family of weasel BS they always pull with 2A cases – “the defendant has an individual right to bear arms unless he yelled at his wife and police conducted their warrantless search on an odd-numbered Thursday while the defendant was wearing a green shirt within 1000 miles of a school”. The SC will punt on AA, because you cannot have people cowed into submission when laws are clearly stated and objectively enforced. That being said, I’m working on some elementary school textbooks which I think will become popular when CRT is the law of the land, and the general BLAMtifa platform is embedded in the standard curriculum.

    Fuera de Aqui, Que Mala : Dora the Explorer – type adventures which help kids to learn Spanish while following the travels of the heroine.

    10% for the Big Guy : a fun learning guide to fractions and percentages.

    What in the World is Rachel Levine? : a richly illustrated volume which teaches children about biology in an engaging, interactive manner.

    Kamala and the Big Brown Willie : Roald Dahl-style tale with lots of unexpected twists.

  11. Ben Affleck is a CIA agent.

    Seriously.

    That’s sort of interesting. Isn’t it?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Not really.

    Hollywood traditionally made the FBI and the Marines the good guys and often made the CIA the bad guys, so in the 1990s the CIA sent Chase Brandon to Hollywood to help get movies made in which the CIA is the good guys. I reviewed the first movie to come out of this effort around 2002, with Al Pacino and that Irish kid who was supposed to be the next huge star.

    So, no, Ben Affleck is not a CIA agent. His movie Argo is based on a story that the CIA wanted told and he got some tours of CIA headquarters and the like to help him get in character, but basically it was the same thing the FBI has been doing with movie makers since maybe the 1930s.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Corvinus, @Corvinus

    , @Lurker
    @JohnnyWalker123

    More of an asset than an agent.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  12. The racial disparity obsession will at best, be seen by future historians as a peculiar phase in our country’s history. At worst, it will be the ending to our country’s existence.

    • Agree: epochehusserl
    • Disagree: RichardTaylor
    • Replies: @Polistra
    @ArthurinCali


    The racial disparity obsession will at best, be seen by future historians as a peculiar phase in our country’s history. At worst, it will be the ending to our country’s existence.
     
    A number of people here appear to believe that--unlike with every other conflict in human history--the losers will be the ones writing the history after this one. This is, I believe, what is now known as a cope.

    The racial obsession now on the ascendant is near and dear to the hearts of the (Ruling Class) and has always been. What's happening now is that they're getting nearly everyone else on board, and this phase will be seen as the Great Awakening, leading of course to the Great Liberation.

    The difference between this new experience and the last time is that this time most of the enslaved ones won't even realize that they're enslaved. Now if that isn't progress, what is? Power, like wealth, is safest when enjoyed secretly.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @Almost Missouri
    @ArthurinCali


    At worst, it will be the ending to our country’s existence.
     
    Ending our country's existence would be the middle case. Worst case—also described by Polistra—is that the CRT Regime carries on dominance of a unified country. And unfortunately, that looks like the most likely case right now.

    Replies: @ArthurinCali

    , @RichardTaylor
    @ArthurinCali

    But racial disparities are quite real. And to be honest, they've been understood since before we were a country. I think what you may be saying is that obsessing over making everyone equal is a phase that will pass. But not an awareness of the underlying racial differences as such.

  13. Anonymous[387] • Disclaimer says:

    Dream on…

    • Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @Anonymous

    Isn't it pretty to think so.

    - Hemingway

  14. @JohnnyWalker123
    Ben Affleck is a CIA agent.

    Seriously.

    https://twitter.com/GreggWmHill/status/1407437400553443332

    That's sort of interesting. Isn't it?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Lurker

    Not really.

    Hollywood traditionally made the FBI and the Marines the good guys and often made the CIA the bad guys, so in the 1990s the CIA sent Chase Brandon to Hollywood to help get movies made in which the CIA is the good guys. I reviewed the first movie to come out of this effort around 2002, with Al Pacino and that Irish kid who was supposed to be the next huge star.

    So, no, Ben Affleck is not a CIA agent. His movie Argo is based on a story that the CIA wanted told and he got some tours of CIA headquarters and the like to help him get in character, but basically it was the same thing the FBI has been doing with movie makers since maybe the 1930s.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Steve Sailer


    I reviewed the first movie to come out of this effort around 2002, with Al Pacino and that Irish kid who was supposed to be the next huge star.
     
    https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2003/01/30/Film-of-the-Week-Pacino-in-The-Recruit/13381043940228/

    Replies: @Desiderius

    , @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    JohnnyWalker123's conspiracy theory is similar to your statement that whites do not have civil rights. Of course American whites have civil rights, as we are citizens who have due process and equal protection under the law.

    "This got me thinking about how the Supreme Court could play a role in saving the United States of America from breaking apart due to the surging tide of antiwhite racist hate emanating from many of its most powerful institutions."

    So you take a false premise and create an argument--mind you, without any specific legal rationale because that is not your area of expertise--based on that false premise that essentially touts judicial activism, which I thought was a big n0-no among conservatives.

    Judicial restraint argues the Constitution entrusts broad issues of the general welfare to the jurisdiction of the executive and legislative branches. In effect, judicial activism ultimately undermines public respect for an intervening Supreme Court. Judicial activism counters the courts were established as an independent branch and have the right to make new interpretations from existing laws when there is a compelling societal need, even if this action leads to direct confrontation with elected officials.

    Judicial activism and judicial restraint lies in the extent to which a judge is willing to depart from the wording of the law and contest the will of the majority. Now, Mr. Sailer, if you are willing to compromise your own principles, then essentially you are no different than those who you denounce. The problem remains of reconciling the American democratic heritage with an active policymaking role for the judiciary. Please NOTICE that the federal courts employ a “doctrine of political questions” to avoid deciding those cases that involve conflicts between the executive and judicial branches. The problem recently has been Democrats and Republicans alike in the past 20 years circumventing this process by "packing the court" with toadie ideologues.

    "The Supreme Court should announce that the era of it permitting violations of the 14th Amendment’s equal protection clause by tolerating discrimination against whites is coming to a close."

    LOL, you embarrass yourself. The Supreme Court has issued rulings that protects whites from racial animus. The 9 cannot simply make an announcement like a K-Mart blue light special. Because feelings.

    The U.S. Supreme Court has decades-old precedent about what is permissible when it comes to programs that promote inclusion and diversity. Companies are allowed to put in place proactive plans to address areas where there have been racial inequality issues, as long as they do not have an exclusionary effect on a White or male person. In recent years, Title VII claims have increasingly been litigated by white defendants, and for good reason. Successful reverse discrimination lawsuits on behalf of our race is other than a novel concept.

    https://www.xperthr.com/news/employers-should-be-careful-not-to-engage-in-reverse-discrimination/9311/

    https://www.flastergreenberg.com/experience-Former_Philadelphia_School_District_Employees_Win_2_96_Million_Reverse_Race_Discrimination_Verdict.html

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-finds-yale-illegally-discriminates-against-asians-and-whites-undergraduate

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-men-challenge-workplace-diversity-efforts-1521036001


    Former Google engineer James Damore, for example, filed a discrimination lawsuit after he was fired for criticizing the company’s diversity policies in a 3,000-word memo that, in part, detailed the biological differences between sexes that he claimed made men better suited for the industry. He ultimately dropped that lawsuit in May.

    Another lawsuit claims former Google and YouTube recruiter Arne Wilberg was unlawfully fired because he didn’t reject white and Asian male job candidates, which he said the company pressured him and other recruits to do for diversity purposes. The company denied it has such a policy. The dispute was sent to arbitration.

    In an October 2019 lawsuit, which is ongoing, store manager Shannon Phillips alleged that, as a result of the inclusion efforts, she and other White employees who weren’t involved in the incident were punished and Black staff members present during the conflict weren’t. She says her termination was motivated by the arrests and bad publicity the company received and sued for discrimination based on her race as a White person.
     

    "Other notions: Disparate impact analysis should also be extended to immigration policies that have the effect of changing the ethnic and thus partisan balance of the electorate".

    Then you would have to change the law, as it deals exclusively with employer policies and practices. The Supreme Court would agree that a person bringing forth this type of suit you suggest lacks legal standing. You would get laughed out of the court room.

    "The mantra “Diversity is our strength,” as Dan Quayle claimed, is not part of the Constitution. Instead, it is an empirical assertion that must be subjected to strict scrutiny when it is offered as an excuse for racial discrimination."

    You do realize that the Supreme Court takes into account the prevailing social attitudes of the time frame when guiding their legal rationales, right?

    https://www.theday.com/article/20191022/NWS13/191029853


    "One of the features of our common American culture is that you don't have to be in the common culture. I think the framers understood that. George Washington's famous letter to the Hebrew Congregation of Newport, Rhode Island which tells them you know you're welcome here you're just as American as anybody else. Although they were doubtless in what those days was an overwhelmingly Christian nation, but that didn't matter. Part of what is America is allowing a lot of people to be outside of the common street."

    Antonin Scalia, 10/5/2006, This Is America TV: On Being An American, Part 1
     

    , @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    "In his 2020 book Age of Entitlement, Christopher Caldwell argues 'The changes of the 1960s, with civil rights at their core, were not just a major new element in the Constitution. They were a rival constitution, with which the original one was frequently incompatible."

    The United States has borne witness to countless "refoundings", from Jacksonian Democracy to the Civil War ending slavery to the Progressive Era's federal reform efforts to the New Deal's interventions. Every single one of them, just like the Civil Rights "revolution", sparked tense and even violent clashes between competing perspectives of the Constitution. In other words, there has been perpetual friction between individual liberties and the collective good. Through it all, there has been revitalization and renewal.

    The problem was that the Jim Crow South was never going to guarantee as it promised under "separate but equal" the basic liberties of half of its citizens, and thus federal power was the necessary cudgel to break state and local self-determination. Today, those past arguments of "freedom of association” and “freedom of property” have been amped up by social traditionalists. The fact of the matter is these concepts have never been absolute in our glorious history. Federal and state laws have at various times constrained them in the name of the public's best interest, and civil rights, as originally constituted, are in the public's best interest.

    But do not despair, Mr. Sailer. We whites will continue to get our day in court! Because, undoubtedly, there will be smarty-pants lawyers who will use anti-discrimination laws, as they do now and as they ought to in protecting our race, in unique ways in the future. Speaking of which...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQWhDvKEiSw

  15. Yes! Whites must have civil rights. That would include pro-Whites or White advocates.

    This got me thinking about how the Supreme Court could play a role in saving the United States of America from breaking apart due to the surging tide of antiwhite racist hate emanating from many of its most powerful institutions.

    However, my people, White people, have a right to exist not because it helps save the USA or any other political construct, but simply for their own sake.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @RichardTaylor

    Of course, hoping that the Supreme Court will ride to the rescue of beleaguered whites is even more of a cope. Best of luck with that!

    , @ATBOTL
    @RichardTaylor


    However, my people, White people, have a right to exist not because it helps save the USA or any other political construct, but simply for their own sake.
     
    It's amazing how many of the cucky boomers here can't think in these clear terms. Everything these boomer cucks say about opposing anti-white polices is couched in an individualist framework about saving multi-racialism.

    There is no way white Americans are getting out of this jam without explicit white identity politics and whites thinking of themselves as being a group with group interests instead of just being individuals.

    It's mind-blowing how bad most of the comments on this blog have always been. It's even more mind-blowing that they are still this bad even under the current situation. These boomer cucks are submissive to the core. Everything they say is an attempt to pander to the enemy and they never think to assert power.

    The good news is that being a race realist and racial cuckhold at the same time is a boomer thing. Almost all Gen X and Millennial aged whites who are race realists are also pro-white.
    , @Corvinus
    @RichardTaylor

    And what happens when white people, my people, make their own decisions about race and culture? Do we not have the right to exist for our own sake?

  16. @anonymous
    I don't see how CRT is going to destroy the US. What scenarios are you thinking will play out? In what timeline?

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don't have a middle class to guide them.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Wade Hampton, @International Jew, @Art Deco, @Some Guy, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones, @Mr. Rational, @Jack D, @bomag, @Currahee, @CapitalistRoader

    Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don’t have a middle class to guide them.

    Is there a class of educated blacks that is “guiding” that population? To the extent they are giving guidance, is it constructive?

    • Agree: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @anon

    OneTwoSix, There are a good number of midsize to large US cities where the majority of the city government are blacks. Mayors, President of the City Council, DAs, Chiefs of Police, Fire Chief and very important, Superintendent of Schools, plus a large part of the public school administration and staff. What more will it take to make this disfunctional part of our country functional? Free education, free meals, subsidized housing and health care, monthly stipends, why would you need a black middle class? As an example of what you could be, or could have been if you tried?

  17. It was put quite brilliantly a long time ago in Spain:

    “Half the nation will not resign itself to die. If it cannot defend itself by one path, it will defend itself by another.”

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @viva

    Nah, Spain doesn't have 50 states, many of them thinly populated, and by a very diverse majority population that has little in common.

  18. @JohnnyWalker123
    Ben Affleck is a CIA agent.

    Seriously.

    https://twitter.com/GreggWmHill/status/1407437400553443332

    That's sort of interesting. Isn't it?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Lurker

    More of an asset than an agent.

    • Agree: Polistra
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Lurker


    More of an asset than an agent.
     
    This guy is Affleck’s handler, got Affleck back together with J-Lo (another asset) :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzV8wrnLfS4
  19. Along with Wesley Yang’s piece, there was this in yesterday’s WSJ:

    A Deeper Look at Critical Race Theory
    The neo-Marxist movement rejects equal opportunity, merit and objectivity.
    William A. Galston

    In last week’s column about critical race theory, I said that I had barely scratched the surface of this complex movement. To dig deeper, I turned to a collection of essays by the movement’s founders and early adherents—“Critical Race Theory: The Key Writings That Formed the Movement”—published in 1996. Here is what I found in the volume and in an article by Kimberlé Crenshaw, one of the book’s editors and one of the movement’s most insightful thinkers.

    • Critical race theory denies the possibility of objectivity. As the volume’s editors state in their illuminating introduction, “Scholarship about race in America can never be written from a distance of detachment or with an attitude of objectivity. . . . Scholarship—the formal production, identification, and organization of what will be called ‘knowledge’—is inevitably political.” And politics is about power—specifically, about the struggle between those who seek to maintain oppressive hierarchies and those who seek to overturn them. Scholarship can be a powerful weapon in that struggle.

    [MORE]

    • The theory moves race to the center of our focus. As the editors put it, it aims to “recover and revitalize the radical tradition of race-consciousness,” a tradition “that was discarded when integration, assimilation and the ideal of colorblindness became the official norms of racial enlightenment.”

    • The founders of Critical Race Theory identified with Black Power movements much more than with those who were working for integration. This form of race-consciousness can’t be reduced to class-consciousness. Sen. Bernie Sanders, who understood the fight for equality as a class struggle, learned this lesson the hard way during his quest for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination.

    • Critical race theory is an explicitly left-wing movement inspired by the thinking of an Italian neo-Marxist, Antonio Gramsci. Against classic Marxism, for which material conditions are primary, Gramsci (1891-1937) focused on “hegemony”—the system of beliefs that “reinforces existing social arrangements and convinces the dominated classes that the existing order is inevitable,” as Ms. Crenshaw puts it…

    Author Bio
    https://www.wsj.com/news/author/william-a-galston

    Full article at
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/kimberle-crenshaw-critical-race-theory-woke-marxism-education-11626793272

    • Thanks: Yngvar
    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Polistra

    Remainder of article, for those interested...


    The theory offers a fundamental critique of the civil-rights movement and the liberal ideology it reflects. Such theorists argue that the civil-rights movement scored some “symbolic” gains for black Americans but left their material conditions mostly unchanged, in part because civil-rights law is inherently limited. Such laws treat “discrimination” as isolated acts by specific individuals or businesses, as exceptions to prevailing norms and practices, not as pervasive and “systemic.” Civil-rights law can mitigate the consequences of illegal and unjust acts, but it can do nothing to redress the continuing impact of past oppression.

    • Critical race theory rejects the principle of equality of opportunity. Its adherents insist that equality of opportunity is a myth, not a reality, in today’s America, and that those who pursue it are misguided. The real goal is equality of results, measured by black share of income, wealth and social standing. Critical race theorists reject the idea that sought-after goods should be distributed through systems that evaluate and reward “merit.”

    This metric is unacceptable, the editors say, because certain “conceptions of merit function not as a neutral basis for distributing resources and opportunity, but rather as a repository of hidden, race-specific preferences for those who have the power to determine the meaning and consequences of ‘merit.’ ” These critics don’t specify which conceptions of merit, if any, they would find acceptable.

    For those who reject meritocracy and demand equal results, even race-conscious policies such as affirmative action are diversionary. “The aim of affirmative action,” the book’s editors insist, is to “create enough exceptions to white privilege to make the mythology of equal opportunity seem at least plausible.” Such policies are an inadequate response to the persistence of “white supremacy.”

    Following Gramsci’s lead, critical race theory has used mainstream concepts such as equality and inclusion to wage a highly effective war of position against liberal ideology. Some liberals have been co-opted, and others silenced. But now the debate has moved to states and school districts around the country, and many parents don’t like what they are seeing. Presenting an honest view of American history in public schools is one thing, parents say, but focusing the curriculum on the “1619 Project” is quite another. Hiring practices and workplaces should be fair and welcoming to all, employees say, but mandatory diversity training premised on the ubiquity of “unconscious racism” and “white fragility” is coercive and insulting.

    Critical race theory’s popularizers have done the movement no favors. In his bestselling book, “How to Be an Anti-Racist,” Ibram X. Kendi bluntly asserts that “the only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.” If prescriptions such as Mr. Kendi’s come to be seen as the inevitable consequence of critical race theory, the movement will end in failure.
     
    Another cope?
  20. anon[358] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    I don't see how CRT is going to destroy the US. What scenarios are you thinking will play out? In what timeline?

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don't have a middle class to guide them.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Wade Hampton, @International Jew, @Art Deco, @Some Guy, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones, @Mr. Rational, @Jack D, @bomag, @Currahee, @CapitalistRoader

    I don’t see how CRT is going to destroy the US.

    Then you should read more. Start with Kendi’s version of anti-racism. Add in reparations. Then active discrimination against white men, even more than we see today.

    Declaring 13% of the population as some kind of nobility won’t work out well. The white working class people will be further ground down into a state of “nothing left to lose”. Does that appeal to you?

    tl;dr
    CRT >>> “Crow Jim”.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
    • Troll: JohnPlywood
    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @anon

    And the category “white working class people” includes doctors, scientists, engineers, etc.

  21. Anonymous[114] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, what you have to remember is that this present push has absolutely nothing to do with ‘equal treatment under the law’ , but has been right from the outset a subversive and sectional grab at dominance – which has succeeded and always has succeeded – since it really began in earnest during the Kennedy/Johnson era. The idea has always been to shout, scream, stamp feet, cry ‘victimhood’ and grab a little. Then a little more. And a little more. And a little more again. As I said all these pushes succeed – the boo hoo hoo and ‘victim’ strategy is extraordinarily fruitful in the USA, and little pushes become big shoves. You try it on, you win, you try it on some more. The classic strategy of the bully and manipulator.
    Entrenchment of the status quo, ironically enough, has become the reality of this gradualism.

  22. @ArthurinCali
    The racial disparity obsession will at best, be seen by future historians as a peculiar phase in our country's history. At worst, it will be the ending to our country's existence.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Almost Missouri, @RichardTaylor

    The racial disparity obsession will at best, be seen by future historians as a peculiar phase in our country’s history. At worst, it will be the ending to our country’s existence.

    A number of people here appear to believe that–unlike with every other conflict in human history–the losers will be the ones writing the history after this one. This is, I believe, what is now known as a cope.

    The racial obsession now on the ascendant is near and dear to the hearts of the (Ruling Class) and has always been. What’s happening now is that they’re getting nearly everyone else on board, and this phase will be seen as the Great Awakening, leading of course to the Great Liberation.

    The difference between this new experience and the last time is that this time most of the enslaved ones won’t even realize that they’re enslaved. Now if that isn’t progress, what is? Power, like wealth, is safest when enjoyed secretly.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Polistra

    Why do you take it for granted that the losers of this conflict will end up being non-melanated goyim?

    Replies: @Ben tillman

  23. @RichardTaylor
    Yes! Whites must have civil rights. That would include pro-Whites or White advocates.

    This got me thinking about how the Supreme Court could play a role in saving the United States of America from breaking apart due to the surging tide of antiwhite racist hate emanating from many of its most powerful institutions.
     
    However, my people, White people, have a right to exist not because it helps save the USA or any other political construct, but simply for their own sake.

    Replies: @Polistra, @ATBOTL, @Corvinus

    Of course, hoping that the Supreme Court will ride to the rescue of beleaguered whites is even more of a cope. Best of luck with that!

    • LOL: RichardTaylor
  24. Are blacks and affirmative action really the cause of white malaise? Have blacks grabbed cultural dominance and by applying intellectual and moral leadership are now liquidating or at least subjugating whites? If it is actually true that a group with an average IQ of 85 and are dividing and destroying whites while building and blossoming their own allied group alliances, well then I have to say this is Darwin’s way of telling whites they are unworthy of surviving, at least in America.

    Perhaps blacks as the agent of white malaise is wrong. For whites I certainly hope so. Did blacks ship masses of mobile capital to China in order to build the factories that make the rope with which to hang white workers? Were Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand, the two ideologues most responsible for open borders, and libertarian-induced white malaise, really of African descent? Are blacks really the financial, media, and political hegemons? Again, if so, whitey deserves his evolutionary fate.

    No, luckily for whites, it is not blacks but hyperwhites who are the historical agents of white malaise. White resistance should aim upwards, and look for useful idiot allies downwards. Whites should learn to exaggerate black demands and to turn blacks against the hyperwhites at every turn. Affimative action, black privilege, etc, should not only be encouraged, it must be applied to hyperwhite institutions such as Wall Street and Hollywood. In fact the entire woke movement is increasingly pozzing centers of hyperwhite power. The clueless wokesters are doing more to undermine hyperwhite power than boomer badwhite system enhancing “resistance” is. It would be better for the Supreme Court to officially proclaim whites as an enemy class and then have badwhite / black resistance apply this to hyperwhite institutions. Hyperwhites haveunleashed this cancer, it is not the job of badwhites to self sacrifice as a form of chemotherapy. Let wokeness and the cultural Frankenstein’s monster it spawns rip until it takes the hyperwhite institutional power down with it.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Torn and Frayed

    "Hyperwhites" will always find a way to avoid the worst effects of wokeness. While it certainly would be nice to get all blacks to explicitly hate and blame "hyperwhites," I prefer to directly name the "hyperwhites" myself. Whether blacks join whites in hating Jews is not necessary.

    , @Yancey Ward
    @Torn and Frayed

    I find a lot to agree with in your comment, Torn and Frayed, but here is the problem- the hyperwhite power structure won't be building public housing projects in Brentwood, Greenwich, etal. They will be built in where conservatives live. Reparations won't be paid out via a progressive tax on rich whites- they will be paid out via money printing which will simply devalue whatever financial assets the middle class white own. At best, what you propose might be the only thing that actually wakes the middle class up, but I predict by that point they will have been disarmed by the SCOTUS Steve Sailer is proposing to save us.

    , @Lurker
    @Torn and Frayed

    Hyperfellowwhite power?

    , @Eric Novak
    @Torn and Frayed

    No, it’s affirmative action for 100,000,000 Third World immigrants and their American-born descendants added to the population in 30 years that’s responsible for white malaise.

  25. You’re such a nice guy Steve. I’ll bet you’re a pretty good neighbor.

    The world would be pretty chill if it was full of a bunch of Steve Sailers.

    It’s not.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @AnotherDad

    Yeah--I disagree with Steve about a number of things, but he is rational, naturally inquisitive and doesn't seem to have a mean bone in his body. Rarer and rarer these days, these qualities.

  26. OT: in a video, a German firefighter tells of 50 trucks and 300 men sent from a neighbouring German land to Euskirchen, North Rhine-Westphalia, to help with the recent #flood2021, when they arrived, people did applaud, as he says, the town looked like a war zone. As they didn’t get an assignment from the local authorities they spend several days mostly doing nothing. Germany, too, is becoming a Potemkin village.

    https://www.facebook.com/peggy.nubla/posts/10219329755305526

    • Replies: @theo the kraut
    @theo the kraut

    Update: on Facebook, the wife of a local firefighter is highly sceptical of the story, as her husband hasn't heard anything about it. I shouldn't have posted this without some confirmation, sorry.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @theo the kraut


    Euskirchen, North Rhine-Westphalia
     
    I passed through that village one night. Someone was playing records from a second-story room. Perhaps a small party or record hop. The songs all had one thing in common-- they were hit singles in the US exactly 15 summers earlier.

    Someone was an exchange student.
  27. @ArthurinCali
    The racial disparity obsession will at best, be seen by future historians as a peculiar phase in our country's history. At worst, it will be the ending to our country's existence.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Almost Missouri, @RichardTaylor

    At worst, it will be the ending to our country’s existence.

    Ending our country’s existence would be the middle case. Worst case—also described by Polistra—is that the CRT Regime carries on dominance of a unified country. And unfortunately, that looks like the most likely case right now.

    • Replies: @ArthurinCali
    @Almost Missouri

    I think my comment has been misunderstood. Let me clarify by adding that I meant if the black/white racial dynamic continues to be the hook in our country's nose, then it will lead to strife and bloodshed.

    To the point, if it is no longer ok to be white, if equality under the law and any semblance of sanity is not restored, then Western Civilization is doomed.

  28. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    In California, shiftless negroes have the right to steal merchandise from any store, as long as the take doesn’t exceed $950, and they’re continuing to exercise their rights daily:

    • Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @Anonymous

    Will the IRS prosecute Blacks who avoid paying taxes on the $150,000 they earn via legal stealing and looting each year?

    , @El Dato
    @Anonymous

    USD 949.99 here, USD 949.99 there ... within 24h you are talking a serious amount of money!

    , @anon
    @Anonymous

    Dude, that's just reparations. Because redlining and Jim Crow and slabery and Emmett Till and stuff.

  29. Sailer you’re becoming as irrelevant to what’s going on as Pat Buchanan .

    • Agree: Robert Dolan
    • Disagree: Hangnail Hans, SafeNow
    • Replies: @Anon
    @donut


    Sailer you’re becoming as irrelevant to what’s going on as Pat Buchanan .
     
    Explain please. What would you say is “going on”?
  30. @theo the kraut
    OT: in a video, a German firefighter tells of 50 trucks and 300 men sent from a neighbouring German land to Euskirchen, North Rhine-Westphalia, to help with the recent #flood2021, when they arrived, people did applaud, as he says, the town looked like a war zone. As they didn't get an assignment from the local authorities they spend several days mostly doing nothing. Germany, too, is becoming a Potemkin village.

    https://www.facebook.com/peggy.nubla/posts/10219329755305526

    Replies: @theo the kraut, @Reg Cæsar

    Update: on Facebook, the wife of a local firefighter is highly sceptical of the story, as her husband hasn’t heard anything about it. I shouldn’t have posted this without some confirmation, sorry.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @theo the kraut


    I shouldn’t have posted this without some confirmation, sorry.
     
    If you can’t trust peggy.nubla, who can you trust?

    Replies: @theo the kraut

  31. In his 2020 book Age of Entitlement, Christopher Caldwell argues:

    The changes of the 1960s, with civil rights at their core, were not just a major new element in the Constitution. They were a rival constitution, with which the original one was frequently incompatible…

    That’s true, but…here’s the thing: Technically, the Constitution hasn’t been abrogated

    “Technically” sure. But there’s a whole body of case law. And ethnic, political, career and financial interests behind the rival constitution. It has power behind it. The Constitution–the original–does not.

    Judges should enunciate that arguments over whether one is punching down (bad) or punching up (good) are irrelevant. Punching is against the law.

    But this is the core of it.

    Since the rise of the Jews in the 1960s, they have–very, very successfully–propagandized the minoritarian narrative–minorities oppressed, virtuous; majorities oppressive, evil.

    That majorities do not have rights–most obviously freedom of association–but also that minorities are the standard of value for judging the fairness, virtue and legality of … well, everything, but certainly laws is absolutely sacrosanct.

    The minoritarian transformation has been incredibly successful. Minoritarianism is the religion/religious-justification for the super-state political party–old concerns about class and the working man kicked to the curb–ergo the religion of the state establishment. And there are some financial interests as well, and a lot of “iron rice bowls”–comfy sinecures–involved. But most impressively minoritarian propaganda–along with some economic/class interests–managed to cleave huge numbers of overclass/virtue-signalling white gentiles, making them essentially fellow travelers. (Basically camp kapos complicit in their own genocide.)

    The Supreme Court giving some minor pushback on direct government anti-white cheating–where it’s not sanctioned by law–is possible. I’m thinking about stuff like say Biden’s illegal racial farm subsidies.

    But the idea that the Supremes are going to step up to the plate and overthrow this massive super-structure of minoritarianism–this rival constitution–that the minoritarians put in place over the last 60 years, cemented in place by uncountable reams and reels of propaganda … not going to happen. We’ll have blood in the streets before that would go down.

    No the future is not going to be pretty.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @AnotherDad

    The final redpills go beyond the JQ to the WQ. How can such a huge percentage of the white population be actively complicit in their own displacement, disenfranchisement, disappropriation, dissolution and, yes, elimination? Perhaps whites are the most inferior race.

    , @J.Ross
    @AnotherDad

    Agree and: who is acting here? Blacks are victims of manipulation and agitation. Not even Kendi is coming up with this stuff. Our enemy here overlaps with the people we would be depending upon in the event of any kind of effort involving the legal conspiracy. The real law is what the Constitution-hating law school graduates who invented Normalized Overt Hate of Whites in the first place. Hugh Hewitt (whom I trust on all legal procedural and educational claims) alleges that Critical Race Theory is actually Critical Law Theory, which arose in law schools in the 70s and was laughed away at the time. You can pass any law you want but the real law is what law school graduates [who want us to die] agree among themselves it is.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @AnotherDad

    I agreed. But it's still worth a shot. After all, if not the actual Constitution, what else are the Supremes gonna waste everyone's time on? Maternity leave for trans "women"?

    , @kneelin' joey b
    @AnotherDad

    i cant believe it took 31 comments for someone to point out the source...

    , @Prof. Woland
    @AnotherDad

    Now that it is becoming provably apparent that the 2020 election was stolen, I would like to see a constitutional amendment to insure voting rights for all Americans, not just the black ones that live in former Confederate States of America. Clearly a massive number of citizens were discriminated against, most of them white. There clearly needs to be something that forcibly brings up to date, protections from cheating, including the advances (or set backs) from the impacts of computers.
    By making it an amendment, it will punctuate what occurred and make it far more difficult in the future to thwart the majority will.

    , @Ian Smith
    @AnotherDad

    If they were able to set up a rival constitution to supersede the old one so easily, maybe constitutions aren’t all they’re cracked up to be.

  32. @Polistra
    Along with Wesley Yang's piece, there was this in yesterday's WSJ:

    A Deeper Look at Critical Race Theory
    The neo-Marxist movement rejects equal opportunity, merit and objectivity.
    William A. Galston

    In last week’s column about critical race theory, I said that I had barely scratched the surface of this complex movement. To dig deeper, I turned to a collection of essays by the movement’s founders and early adherents—“Critical Race Theory: The Key Writings That Formed the Movement”—published in 1996. Here is what I found in the volume and in an article by Kimberlé Crenshaw, one of the book’s editors and one of the movement’s most insightful thinkers.

    • Critical race theory denies the possibility of objectivity. As the volume’s editors state in their illuminating introduction, “Scholarship about race in America can never be written from a distance of detachment or with an attitude of objectivity. . . . Scholarship—the formal production, identification, and organization of what will be called ‘knowledge’—is inevitably political.” And politics is about power—specifically, about the struggle between those who seek to maintain oppressive hierarchies and those who seek to overturn them. Scholarship can be a powerful weapon in that struggle.

     

    • The theory moves race to the center of our focus. As the editors put it, it aims to “recover and revitalize the radical tradition of race-consciousness,” a tradition “that was discarded when integration, assimilation and the ideal of colorblindness became the official norms of racial enlightenment.”

    • The founders of Critical Race Theory identified with Black Power movements much more than with those who were working for integration. This form of race-consciousness can’t be reduced to class-consciousness. Sen. Bernie Sanders, who understood the fight for equality as a class struggle, learned this lesson the hard way during his quest for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination.

    • Critical race theory is an explicitly left-wing movement inspired by the thinking of an Italian neo-Marxist, Antonio Gramsci. Against classic Marxism, for which material conditions are primary, Gramsci (1891-1937) focused on “hegemony”—the system of beliefs that “reinforces existing social arrangements and convinces the dominated classes that the existing order is inevitable,” as Ms. Crenshaw puts it...

    Author Bio
    https://www.wsj.com/news/author/william-a-galston

    Full article at
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/kimberle-crenshaw-critical-race-theory-woke-marxism-education-11626793272
     

    Replies: @Polistra

    Remainder of article, for those interested…

    [MORE]

    The theory offers a fundamental critique of the civil-rights movement and the liberal ideology it reflects. Such theorists argue that the civil-rights movement scored some “symbolic” gains for black Americans but left their material conditions mostly unchanged, in part because civil-rights law is inherently limited. Such laws treat “discrimination” as isolated acts by specific individuals or businesses, as exceptions to prevailing norms and practices, not as pervasive and “systemic.” Civil-rights law can mitigate the consequences of illegal and unjust acts, but it can do nothing to redress the continuing impact of past oppression.

    • Critical race theory rejects the principle of equality of opportunity. Its adherents insist that equality of opportunity is a myth, not a reality, in today’s America, and that those who pursue it are misguided. The real goal is equality of results, measured by black share of income, wealth and social standing. Critical race theorists reject the idea that sought-after goods should be distributed through systems that evaluate and reward “merit.”

    This metric is unacceptable, the editors say, because certain “conceptions of merit function not as a neutral basis for distributing resources and opportunity, but rather as a repository of hidden, race-specific preferences for those who have the power to determine the meaning and consequences of ‘merit.’ ” These critics don’t specify which conceptions of merit, if any, they would find acceptable.

    For those who reject meritocracy and demand equal results, even race-conscious policies such as affirmative action are diversionary. “The aim of affirmative action,” the book’s editors insist, is to “create enough exceptions to white privilege to make the mythology of equal opportunity seem at least plausible.” Such policies are an inadequate response to the persistence of “white supremacy.”

    Following Gramsci’s lead, critical race theory has used mainstream concepts such as equality and inclusion to wage a highly effective war of position against liberal ideology. Some liberals have been co-opted, and others silenced. But now the debate has moved to states and school districts around the country, and many parents don’t like what they are seeing. Presenting an honest view of American history in public schools is one thing, parents say, but focusing the curriculum on the “1619 Project” is quite another. Hiring practices and workplaces should be fair and welcoming to all, employees say, but mandatory diversity training premised on the ubiquity of “unconscious racism” and “white fragility” is coercive and insulting.

    Critical race theory’s popularizers have done the movement no favors. In his bestselling book, “How to Be an Anti-Racist,” Ibram X. Kendi bluntly asserts that “the only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.” If prescriptions such as Mr. Kendi’s come to be seen as the inevitable consequence of critical race theory, the movement will end in failure.

    Another cope?

  33. The current establishment won’t stop until the US collapses. And they will say, “Why didn’t anybody do anything to prevent this?”
    Because they won’t be the ones responsible for what happened.

  34. @AnotherDad
    You're such a nice guy Steve. I'll bet you're a pretty good neighbor.

    The world would be pretty chill if it was full of a bunch of Steve Sailers.

    It's not.

    Replies: @Polistra

    Yeah–I disagree with Steve about a number of things, but he is rational, naturally inquisitive and doesn’t seem to have a mean bone in his body. Rarer and rarer these days, these qualities.

  35. @Abolish_public_education
    Awful. The lawyer-justices are part of the problem; and they always will be.

    Make the USG budget (no “off”) as small as possible; $75B per year sounds about right. Then, no matter how much suck is contained therein, it won’t affect 329.9M Americans.

    I believe that by getting the small government revolution started at the state level, e.g. a_p_e, we can embarrass Washington enough to get it to self-downsize.

    Replies: @Tono Bungay, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad

    I’ve been thinking about this perennial conservative goal of reducing the size of government. Historically, has it ever happened? What governments have actually been reduced in size, and how was that brought about? I ask because I am pessimistic on this score, and I fear that bloat and decay are irreversible.

  36. Keep in mind that there is no way to divide the U.S. up geographically that will cure what ails us.

    There isn’t any clear immediate geographic separation that works.

    But that isn’t critical. There are schemes to achieve political separation–to get us out of each other’s hair that are possible. (I’ve got one. I’m sure other folks have others.) And those could lead to geographic separation eventually.

    But more on point, i am certain that talking about separation–raising the issue–is critical.

    Separation does three things–which are really one thing:

    1) it makes the point that the shit the minoritarians are doing is really abusive–nation breaking; if you’re going to get ’em to stop without separation they have to realize this.

    2) it makes a very powerful political point about who is actually oppressing whom; the people happy to walk away and go about their own business can not actually be the oppressors; (despite minoritarian propaganda)

    3) it–once people think about it–reveals who is actually parasitic upon whom; this reality will make our minoritarian bully boys very hostile to separation, but it also has the power to “rip back the curtain” and wake up white people

    • Thanks: Bill Jones
    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    @AnotherDad

    I tend to agree with this line of thinking, that separation isn't feasible now or that it is all that likely now, but that it is due and likely eventually and is worth discussing in the present.

    I also agree with the notion that the caterwauling and panic would be enormous once such discussions actually started and the racist accusations would be over the top towards any party that even broached the subject. It would sounds like regular old racist sloganeering and rabble rousing but there would be an undercurrent of desperation that would be obvious to anyone paying attention.

    It would indeed be illuminating as the parasites began to realize that the hosts had discovered a new treatment that would be be starting shortly and promised to purge the parasites from their comfortable positions in the collective digestive track.

    , @Jamie_NYC
    @AnotherDad

    Intelligent comment, but I will point this out: the strategy works against an opponent who is ready to engage in good faith. Assuming this is a costly delusion, and a major reason why the current score is what it is. I would bet that talk of separation would be met with invocation of the civil war, which brings to mind… what else… racism. So, it won’t work.

    , @Ben tillman
    @AnotherDad

    I agree, but the bad guys clearly have a response to point no. 2:

    We are criminals trying to escape justice.

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @AnotherDad

    Possibilities for How “the American Experiment” Will End

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2012/05/possibilities-for-how-american.html

    Replies: @anon

  37. Déjà vu poast (h/t MEH 0910) :

    For purposes of this order: (a) The term “equity” means the consistent and systematic fair, just, and impartial treatment of all individuals [emphasis added]

    Oooops. Achilles heel right there. Sounds like a restatement of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment.

    • Agree: Dan Smith
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Where the dipshits get it wrong is the use of the word treatment.
    If the goal is equal outcome you cannot have equal treatment.

  38. @Lurker
    @JohnnyWalker123

    More of an asset than an agent.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    More of an asset than an agent.

    This guy is Affleck’s handler, got Affleck back together with J-Lo (another asset) :

    • LOL: Charon, AndrewR
  39. @anonymous
    I don't see how CRT is going to destroy the US. What scenarios are you thinking will play out? In what timeline?

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don't have a middle class to guide them.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Wade Hampton, @International Jew, @Art Deco, @Some Guy, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones, @Mr. Rational, @Jack D, @bomag, @Currahee, @CapitalistRoader

    Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don’t have a (black) middle class to guide them.

    What nonsense.

    Just imagine how much worse off blacks would be in America without whites to guide them. Wait. We don’t have to imagine. We just have to look at the entirety of Sub-Saharan Africa.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  40. @theo the kraut
    @theo the kraut

    Update: on Facebook, the wife of a local firefighter is highly sceptical of the story, as her husband hasn't heard anything about it. I shouldn't have posted this without some confirmation, sorry.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I shouldn’t have posted this without some confirmation, sorry.

    If you can’t trust peggy.nubla, who can you trust?

    • Replies: @theo the kraut
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The name is fine, her husband is Philippine. Still...

  41. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @theo the kraut


    I shouldn’t have posted this without some confirmation, sorry.
     
    If you can’t trust peggy.nubla, who can you trust?

    Replies: @theo the kraut

    The name is fine, her husband is Philippine. Still…

  42. “Australian Couple”
    “Melbourne Couple”

    Melbourne couple put behind bars for enslaving elderly woman for 8 years
    A couple who kept an Indian grandmother as a house slave for eight years have been jailed by a Melbourne court, with the presiding judge expressing astonishment over the pair’s lack of remorse for their heinous crime.

    Kumuthini Kannan, 53, was sentenced to eight years in prison by the Supreme Court of Victoria, while her husband, Kandasamy, 57, will spend six years behind bars. He received a lighter sentence because the court determined he suffered from a weak character and had been dominated by his wife. Mr. Kannan will be eligible for parole in three years, and his wife can apply for early release after serving half her sentence.

    The grandmother had traveled from India to Australia to stay at the Kannans’ residence in July 2007, believing she had been hired to take care of the couple’s children. Instead, she was kept as a slave and tortured for not obeying commands. The elderly victim told the court the couple had once beaten her with a frozen chicken, forced her to work up to 23 hours a day, and would pour hot water on her head if she fell asleep without permission. Her enslavement lasted for eight years and was discovered only after she required emergency medical treatment.

    https://www.rt.com/news/529788-melbourne-couple-india-slave-prison-australia/

    Emphasis added, of course. “Makes Us Stronger!”

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Polistra

    "He received a lighter sentence because the court determined he suffered from a weak character and had been dominated by his wife"

    Wait, when did the Indian heteropatriarchy capitulate? So, bossy Indian women aren't a racist myth?

  43. So, I am going to list a series of principles and actions that could help hold the country together peacefully. …

    My final objection here–and btw, Steve i think this is a terrific essay, not because any such stuff is going to happen, but because it raises these core issues–

    anyway, my final objection, is that even though in anno Georgius 2, it’s all blackety, blackety, black–defunding cops, “white privilege”, CRT–that isn’t really *the* problem. Just an instantiation.

    The problem is minoritarianism, and critically immigration. Specifically immigration as a means toward political control and more importantly to destroy the nation–as a nation.

    Even if all your legal suggestions about following the actual Constitution and “equal protection” came to be, as long as there was continued mass immigration … the nation is doomed. (It would just be a much more pleasant doom.)

    In contrast, if we could just permanently and forever *stop immigration*, i think the future gets much brighter. First off, pretty much all working and middle class Americans’ economic prospects get a whole lot better. Secondly suddenly “we’re all in this together”. Look around … this is who you’re in the boat with.

    But critically, once immigration is blissfully, mercifully stopped, i think we’ll start physically becoming a “one people” nation again. Not immediately, but in a couple/three generations what you have is roughly: a white-Asian-Latin middle/upper-middle class; a white-Latin working class; and then the blacks distributed over their class hierarchy. (And, of course, Jews still doing the Jewish thing–i.e. who don’t want to integrate.) You’ll still have our “legacy of slavery” problem–there’s no switch we can flick to handle the last 10,000 years of evolution. But otherwise the nation will look much, much more one-peoplish than it does now. It will not be as nice as nice–nor as competitive–as it could have been if we hadn’t gone down this route. But it can still be pretty nice.

    Immigration is really the key to–the fulcrum for–what our future looks like. How pleasant or unpleasant it is. Who you share a nation with is what really matters.

    • Replies: @RichardTaylor
    @AnotherDad


    Immigration is really the key to–the fulcrum for–what our future looks like.
     
    But there are already enough non-Whites to "mix" Whites out of existence. What White people need is the right to their own towns, neighborhoods, schools, etc. That is, an end to all forced assimilation/integration.

    The "one-people" nation is the worst possible solution. Basically, the genocide of Whites for somebody's social engineering project.
    , @Anon
    @AnotherDad


    But critically, once immigration is blissfully, mercifully stopped, i think we’ll start physically becoming a “one people” nation again. Not immediately, but in a couple/three generations
     
    That would put unwelcome pressure on Jews to assimilate. For Jews to continue as a distinct group, it helps if the main outgroup that is proximate to them is fractured or made ugly.
    , @Jack McArthur
    @AnotherDad


    But critically, once immigration is blissfully, mercifully stopped, i think we’ll start physically becoming a “one people” nation again. Not immediately, but in a couple/three generations what you have is roughly: a white-Asian-Latin middle/upper-middle class; a white-Latin working class; and then the blacks distributed over their class hierarchy. (And, of course, Jews still doing the Jewish thing–i.e. who don’t want to integrate.)
     
    Its not going to happen because of the parenthesized text. Ron Unz published recently figures describing the absolute dominance of the tribe in the media. I do not believe they have any free-will at all and that becomes, I assume, mitigation for what happens when they leave this world. The so called Christians who have betrayed their calling and indeed exercised their free will in taking the knee to evil, to pocketing the thirty pieces of silver, are in another line.
  44. • Replies: @El Dato
    @brabantian

    So what did he know about whom?

    , @Yancey Ward
    @brabantian

    LOL! Herrara was guilty and got what the law demanded. Funny how he only learned about his brother doing the deed years after his brother was dead.

  45. Today, Google lists my blog post asking that question, but only after announcing:

    I’m surprised this blog even shows up on Google searches.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
  46. @anonymous
    I don't see how CRT is going to destroy the US. What scenarios are you thinking will play out? In what timeline?

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don't have a middle class to guide them.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Wade Hampton, @International Jew, @Art Deco, @Some Guy, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones, @Mr. Rational, @Jack D, @bomag, @Currahee, @CapitalistRoader

    Depends what kind of middle class. The pre-1960s middle class of undertakers and other people doing honest work that provided useful services from inside the black community and exemplified bourgeois values was indeed a good and civilizing example. Today’s middle class of affirmative action pets and professional grievance hustlers is anything but a good influence. The incentives our system offers blacks, from one end of their IQ distribution to the other, seems optimized to elicit bad behavior.

    • Thanks: William Badwhite
  47. Thanks, Steve, for offering us a path out of slaughtering one another.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Shouting Thomas

    The real problem is that it's not going to be "us... slaughtering one another." It's going to be THEM slaughtering US.

  48. @Shouting Thomas
    Thanks, Steve, for offering us a path out of slaughtering one another.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    The real problem is that it’s not going to be “us… slaughtering one another.” It’s going to be THEM slaughtering US.

  49. @anonymous
    I don't see how CRT is going to destroy the US. What scenarios are you thinking will play out? In what timeline?

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don't have a middle class to guide them.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Wade Hampton, @International Jew, @Art Deco, @Some Guy, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones, @Mr. Rational, @Jack D, @bomag, @Currahee, @CapitalistRoader

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don’t have a middle class to guide them.

    Are you being ironic?

    (1) They won’t be ‘worse’ at all. Blacks in salaried employment or operating small businesses don’t live in the slum districts where all the social problems are. With some exceptions (clergymen, undertakers), they don’t work there either.

    (2) The components of the black bourgeoisie which have the most direct contact with feral young people are schoolteachers, school administrators, social workers, clergymen, police officers, and public defenders.

    (3) There was a black middle class prior to 1966. They actually lived and worked among other strata of the black population.

    (4) AA is salient in public employment and in private higher education. North of 80% of the black population does not work in these sectors.

    (5) If I’m not mistaken, sociological studies of the black population indicate that relationships between collateral relatives are quite tenuous compared to what prevails in the rest of the population.

    What happens if you get rid of AA is that the black segment of the higher ed student body falls from 14% to 7% and the sort of ringer who ends up on the faculty will at a much earlier stage be diverted to some other sort of employment. In other sorts of employment, the 30% or 50% who spend a number of years attempting to build a career in a line of work to which they’re unsuitable will be sluiced to more appropriate employment. Letitia James wouldn’t have spent 10 years as a bottom-of-the-barrell lawyer. She’d have done something else.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Dan Smith
    @Art Deco

    And Ibram X Kendi would have been a high school history teacher, possibly a coach.

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Art Deco


    (1) They won’t be ‘worse’ at all. Blacks in salaried employment or operating small businesses don’t live in the slum districts where all the social problems are. With some exceptions (clergymen, undertakers), they don’t work there either.
     
    They'll be worse off without quotas because they will have to compete with others on a level playing field. See: Gottfredson. Some other commenter did a good job of recapping her findings. Search for it.

    (2) The components of the black bourgeoisie which have the most direct contact with feral young people are schoolteachers, school administrators, social workers, clergymen, police officers, and public defenders.

     

    So what? That's true of white SJWs, and other Goodwhites, and it doesn't change their opinions an iota. In any case I fail to see the relevance to the issue of black competitiveness.

    (3) There was a black middle class prior to 1966. They actually lived and worked among other strata of the black population.
     
    Here we get to the heart of the matter. It amazes me how you're able to cite facts and then miss the essence. Prior to 1966 blacks mainly competed with other blacks in a society segregated by custom and law.

    This was bad for many blacks but great for the elite. Someone like Katherine Johnson or David Blackwell (look him up) were the top of the pyramid. Have them compete with whites and they're good, but not great. (Look up the story about Blackwell and John Von Neumann.)

    This worked all down the line - middling successful blacks, competing with Everyone Else, would not be middling - they'd be lower class, possibly working poor.

    So what was your point?

    Replies: @International Jew, @Jack D

  50. Yeah, in modern societies, words on paper can make a difference.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Dieter Kief

    We'll see how post-modern we are then. So far sola scriptura not exactly holding its own.

    , @El Dato
    @Dieter Kief

    This is apposite

    https://i.postimg.cc/tJCNnrH5/Astounding-Science-Fiction-The-final-weapon.jpg

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

  51. The premise of “civil rights” is flawed to begin with. Civil rights were always intended to be a power grab from the traditional Euro descended US. It has worked out as intended.

    What the US needs to do, regardless of the SC, is get back to recognizing the Bill of Rights as our standard. Freedom of Association, which the Civil Rights Act essentially eliminated, must be restored first and foremost.

    Forced integration is 10 times as immoral as forced segregation. We see the results of that daily.

    End so called civil rights outright, and restore constitutional rights.

    • Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @Mike Tre

    Philadelphia and many northern cities were integrated decades before civil rights legislation banned the freedom of association. Certainly civil rights legislation compounded the problems, but our Northern cities had already been decimated with demographic diversity by 1960. I suppose we could blame redlining, yet in Philly the redlined areas were primarily ethnic whites until 1940. My grandfather grew up in Powelton Village (West Philly) which was redlined in 1934 when it was still 90% white. My grandmother grew up in Germantown , which was also redlined and the location of one of the first housing projects in Philly in 1952.

    All four of my grandparents grew up in different neighborhoods , 3 in Philly, one in Chester. All 4 saw their childhood neighborhoods go from 95% white to 90% Black by 1960 and with the change the value of their property collapsed as the crime rate soared.

    civil rights legislation certainly made the cities worse , resulting in even more white flight.

  52. @Polistra
    @ArthurinCali


    The racial disparity obsession will at best, be seen by future historians as a peculiar phase in our country’s history. At worst, it will be the ending to our country’s existence.
     
    A number of people here appear to believe that--unlike with every other conflict in human history--the losers will be the ones writing the history after this one. This is, I believe, what is now known as a cope.

    The racial obsession now on the ascendant is near and dear to the hearts of the (Ruling Class) and has always been. What's happening now is that they're getting nearly everyone else on board, and this phase will be seen as the Great Awakening, leading of course to the Great Liberation.

    The difference between this new experience and the last time is that this time most of the enslaved ones won't even realize that they're enslaved. Now if that isn't progress, what is? Power, like wealth, is safest when enjoyed secretly.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Why do you take it for granted that the losers of this conflict will end up being non-melanated goyim?

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @AndrewR

    Hear, hear!

  53. @Torn and Frayed
    Are blacks and affirmative action really the cause of white malaise? Have blacks grabbed cultural dominance and by applying intellectual and moral leadership are now liquidating or at least subjugating whites? If it is actually true that a group with an average IQ of 85 and are dividing and destroying whites while building and blossoming their own allied group alliances, well then I have to say this is Darwin's way of telling whites they are unworthy of surviving, at least in America.

    Perhaps blacks as the agent of white malaise is wrong. For whites I certainly hope so. Did blacks ship masses of mobile capital to China in order to build the factories that make the rope with which to hang white workers? Were Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand, the two ideologues most responsible for open borders, and libertarian-induced white malaise, really of African descent? Are blacks really the financial, media, and political hegemons? Again, if so, whitey deserves his evolutionary fate.

    No, luckily for whites, it is not blacks but hyperwhites who are the historical agents of white malaise. White resistance should aim upwards, and look for useful idiot allies downwards. Whites should learn to exaggerate black demands and to turn blacks against the hyperwhites at every turn. Affimative action, black privilege, etc, should not only be encouraged, it must be applied to hyperwhite institutions such as Wall Street and Hollywood. In fact the entire woke movement is increasingly pozzing centers of hyperwhite power. The clueless wokesters are doing more to undermine hyperwhite power than boomer badwhite system enhancing "resistance" is. It would be better for the Supreme Court to officially proclaim whites as an enemy class and then have badwhite / black resistance apply this to hyperwhite institutions. Hyperwhites haveunleashed this cancer, it is not the job of badwhites to self sacrifice as a form of chemotherapy. Let wokeness and the cultural Frankenstein's monster it spawns rip until it takes the hyperwhite institutional power down with it.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Yancey Ward, @Lurker, @Eric Novak

    “Hyperwhites” will always find a way to avoid the worst effects of wokeness. While it certainly would be nice to get all blacks to explicitly hate and blame “hyperwhites,” I prefer to directly name the “hyperwhites” myself. Whether blacks join whites in hating Jews is not necessary.

  54. @anonymous
    I don't see how CRT is going to destroy the US. What scenarios are you thinking will play out? In what timeline?

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don't have a middle class to guide them.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Wade Hampton, @International Jew, @Art Deco, @Some Guy, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones, @Mr. Rational, @Jack D, @bomag, @Currahee, @CapitalistRoader

    One can artificially create a “black America” (i.e., an America that will fail) by making that 12.8% the standard. Every job, every entrance exam, every skill, must be dumbed down so that the 12.8% can do it. The 12.8% get free passes from arrest and incarceration. All movies and TV shows must involve the 12.8%. The 12.8% get veto power over everything. All human endeavors must revolve around the 12.8%, and nothing can occur that displeases the 12.8%.

    Where there are blacks, their opinion is what matters. Where there are no blacks, all actions must be based upon “What would blacks think?”

    https://www.takimag.com/article/the-dysgenic-duo/

  55. @AnotherDad

    In his 2020 book Age of Entitlement, Christopher Caldwell argues:

    The changes of the 1960s, with civil rights at their core, were not just a major new element in the Constitution. They were a rival constitution, with which the original one was frequently incompatible…
     
    That’s true, but…here’s the thing: Technically, the Constitution hasn’t been abrogated
     
    "Technically" sure. But there's a whole body of case law. And ethnic, political, career and financial interests behind the rival constitution. It has power behind it. The Constitution--the original--does not.

    Judges should enunciate that arguments over whether one is punching down (bad) or punching up (good) are irrelevant. Punching is against the law.
     
    But this is the core of it.

    Since the rise of the Jews in the 1960s, they have--very, very successfully--propagandized the minoritarian narrative--minorities oppressed, virtuous; majorities oppressive, evil.

    That majorities do not have rights--most obviously freedom of association--but also that minorities are the standard of value for judging the fairness, virtue and legality of ... well, everything, but certainly laws is absolutely sacrosanct.

    The minoritarian transformation has been incredibly successful. Minoritarianism is the religion/religious-justification for the super-state political party--old concerns about class and the working man kicked to the curb--ergo the religion of the state establishment. And there are some financial interests as well, and a lot of "iron rice bowls"--comfy sinecures--involved. But most impressively minoritarian propaganda--along with some economic/class interests--managed to cleave huge numbers of overclass/virtue-signalling white gentiles, making them essentially fellow travelers. (Basically camp kapos complicit in their own genocide.)

    The Supreme Court giving some minor pushback on direct government anti-white cheating--where it's not sanctioned by law--is possible. I'm thinking about stuff like say Biden's illegal racial farm subsidies.

    But the idea that the Supremes are going to step up to the plate and overthrow this massive super-structure of minoritarianism--this rival constitution--that the minoritarians put in place over the last 60 years, cemented in place by uncountable reams and reels of propaganda ... not going to happen. We'll have blood in the streets before that would go down.

    No the future is not going to be pretty.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @J.Ross, @Almost Missouri, @kneelin' joey b, @Prof. Woland, @Ian Smith

    The final redpills go beyond the JQ to the WQ. How can such a huge percentage of the white population be actively complicit in their own displacement, disenfranchisement, disappropriation, dissolution and, yes, elimination? Perhaps whites are the most inferior race.

  56. It was another good Taki column, Steve. Obviously, to me anyway, none of this will ever happen. It is very apparent that these black-robed wonders, aside from a couple (one who had no autopsy), are compromised by those that WANT to destroy this country.

    More generally, how could the US ever get back to adhering to the Constitution as the Law of the Land again, as the 60 years of violation of it have created the Beast of a Feral government that won’t be rolled back by a couple of SC decisions? This Feral government is deeply entrenched, with half the population having a vested interest in keeping it that way. Amendment X would have to be upheld first, and that ain’t likely – it took a war the first time. (BTW, Peak Stupidity just concluded our “Peak Constitutional Amendment” series by stating that, by a good margin, the 17 Amendments proposed and ratified after the 10 in the Bill of Rights, were bad for the Republic and that Article V was a big screw up by the Founders.)

    I am glad to see that you have finally come out categorically against AA, at least for the future, not the past (as if 60 years of career-destruction, reduced affordable family formation, and underemployment for White people was just A-OK with you … and Ann Coulter – you were in good company there.)

    Finally, I’ll post this link to that the Christopher Caldwell book, The Age of Entitlement, again. Most of you all won’t like chapters 2 and 3. Caldwell really wussed out, when it came down to it. Well, ya’ first gotta get the thing published, I guess …

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I am glad to see that you have finally come out categorically against AA, at least for the future, not the past
     
    Hearty agree there, AEN! Steve’s willingness to tolerate ‘affirmative action’ or some sort of ‘reparations’ for Blacks and American Indians was a rare glaring conceptual error on his part. Two points of failure:

    1. Is it Constitutional? No.
    2. Do they deserve it? No.

    Whites eventually allowed the above groups to participate, with equal legal status with Whites, in American society. They were lucky to get that.

    Replies: @Anon

  57. @anonymous
    I don't see how CRT is going to destroy the US. What scenarios are you thinking will play out? In what timeline?

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don't have a middle class to guide them.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Wade Hampton, @International Jew, @Art Deco, @Some Guy, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones, @Mr. Rational, @Jack D, @bomag, @Currahee, @CapitalistRoader

    This is not a drill.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Desiderius

    As I allowed myself to mention earlier, this scene has to be redone with much more blacks and other ethnicities:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXgPKpQF6ZY

    "Congratulations. The trucks are rolling!"

    , @Ben tillman
    @Desiderius

    What is the GAE?

    , @Ralph L
    @Desiderius

    Now there are some actual codewords!

    I've got no idea if they're "racist."

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @MEH 0910
    @Desiderius

    https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1417931078031974402

  58. @anonymous
    I don't see how CRT is going to destroy the US. What scenarios are you thinking will play out? In what timeline?

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don't have a middle class to guide them.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Wade Hampton, @International Jew, @Art Deco, @Some Guy, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones, @Mr. Rational, @Jack D, @bomag, @Currahee, @CapitalistRoader

    Mismatch is half the problem. It drains that very middle class from their communities.

  59. @anonymous
    I don't see how CRT is going to destroy the US. What scenarios are you thinking will play out? In what timeline?

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don't have a middle class to guide them.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Wade Hampton, @International Jew, @Art Deco, @Some Guy, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones, @Mr. Rational, @Jack D, @bomag, @Currahee, @CapitalistRoader

    #837, much of the black middle class is in government, and I include lower education here. As old Ronnie would have said, they are not here to help you, as a White man, and, as #126 replied, they are really not here to lift up their fellow black people either. These jobs are just another welfare entitlement.

    • Thanks: James Speaks
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Achmed E. Newman

    #837, much of the black middle class is in government,

    Blacks are more likely to be public sector workers. The difference in propensity is modest, however, about 30%. A great deal of that is accounted for by postal service employees and metro transit employees, who are hourly employees.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jack D, @Paperback Writer, @Alden

  60. @Dieter Kief
    Yeah, in modern societies, words on paper can make a difference.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @El Dato

    We’ll see how post-modern we are then. So far sola scriptura not exactly holding its own.

  61. Who is looking wiser in retrospect, the Steve Sailer who years ago said we should restrict affirmative action to historically native blacks rather the let it expand it to cover all NAMs, or the John Roberts who, again years ago, said “the way to stop discriminating by race is to stop discriminating by race?”

    All Roberts has to do is to follow his own, younger advice.

    • Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @Henry Canaday

    Unfortunately, even if the Supreme Court outlaws affirmative action the Universities and corporations will continue the practice....just as the State schools in CA continue to have affirmative action despite it being prohibited by law in California.

    The federal government still has laws against marijuana , yet they are no longer enforced in most states. Laws against CRT and affirmative action will be completely ignored. Trump tried to ban CRT , yet all the government agencies ignored his orders and continued to force workers to attend critical race seminars....

    progressives and other leftists have total control over all aspects of our federal and state governments, including all law enforcement agencies and all large police forces are run by Blacks or a progressive leftists. The military is run by leftist progressive generals. The CIA and FBI is run by leftist progressives and the staff of these agencies are filled with leftist progressives. They will not enforce Supreme Court decisions which are based on the constitution , they have not defended our constitution for decades and are actively opposed to our bill of rights. The Supreme court realizes this and fear it will become obvious they have no real power to end affirmative action. So they will not pretend to grant Whites civil rights.

    , @Desiderius
    @Henry Canaday

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkegObkJIeo

  62. @Anonymous
    In California, shiftless negroes have the right to steal merchandise from any store, as long as the take doesn’t exceed $950, and they’re continuing to exercise their rights daily:

    https://twitter.com/adamcarolla/status/1417629839809339392?s=20

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @El Dato, @anon

    Will the IRS prosecute Blacks who avoid paying taxes on the $150,000 they earn via legal stealing and looting each year?

  63. @ArthurinCali
    The racial disparity obsession will at best, be seen by future historians as a peculiar phase in our country's history. At worst, it will be the ending to our country's existence.

    Replies: @Polistra, @Almost Missouri, @RichardTaylor

    But racial disparities are quite real. And to be honest, they’ve been understood since before we were a country. I think what you may be saying is that obsessing over making everyone equal is a phase that will pass. But not an awareness of the underlying racial differences as such.

  64. @AnotherDad

    So, I am going to list a series of principles and actions that could help hold the country together peacefully. ...
     
    My final objection here--and btw, Steve i think this is a terrific essay, not because any such stuff is going to happen, but because it raises these core issues--

    anyway, my final objection, is that even though in anno Georgius 2, it's all blackety, blackety, black--defunding cops, "white privilege", CRT--that isn't really *the* problem. Just an instantiation.

    The problem is minoritarianism, and critically immigration. Specifically immigration as a means toward political control and more importantly to destroy the nation--as a nation.

    Even if all your legal suggestions about following the actual Constitution and "equal protection" came to be, as long as there was continued mass immigration ... the nation is doomed. (It would just be a much more pleasant doom.)

    In contrast, if we could just permanently and forever *stop immigration*, i think the future gets much brighter. First off, pretty much all working and middle class Americans' economic prospects get a whole lot better. Secondly suddenly "we're all in this together". Look around ... this is who you're in the boat with.

    But critically, once immigration is blissfully, mercifully stopped, i think we'll start physically becoming a "one people" nation again. Not immediately, but in a couple/three generations what you have is roughly: a white-Asian-Latin middle/upper-middle class; a white-Latin working class; and then the blacks distributed over their class hierarchy. (And, of course, Jews still doing the Jewish thing--i.e. who don't want to integrate.) You'll still have our "legacy of slavery" problem--there's no switch we can flick to handle the last 10,000 years of evolution. But otherwise the nation will look much, much more one-peoplish than it does now. It will not be as nice as nice--nor as competitive--as it could have been if we hadn't gone down this route. But it can still be pretty nice.

    Immigration is really the key to--the fulcrum for--what our future looks like. How pleasant or unpleasant it is. Who you share a nation with is what really matters.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Anon, @Jack McArthur

    Immigration is really the key to–the fulcrum for–what our future looks like.

    But there are already enough non-Whites to “mix” Whites out of existence. What White people need is the right to their own towns, neighborhoods, schools, etc. That is, an end to all forced assimilation/integration.

    The “one-people” nation is the worst possible solution. Basically, the genocide of Whites for somebody’s social engineering project.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
  65. @Henry Canaday
    Who is looking wiser in retrospect, the Steve Sailer who years ago said we should restrict affirmative action to historically native blacks rather the let it expand it to cover all NAMs, or the John Roberts who, again years ago, said “the way to stop discriminating by race is to stop discriminating by race?”

    All Roberts has to do is to follow his own, younger advice.

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Desiderius

    Unfortunately, even if the Supreme Court outlaws affirmative action the Universities and corporations will continue the practice….just as the State schools in CA continue to have affirmative action despite it being prohibited by law in California.

    The federal government still has laws against marijuana , yet they are no longer enforced in most states. Laws against CRT and affirmative action will be completely ignored. Trump tried to ban CRT , yet all the government agencies ignored his orders and continued to force workers to attend critical race seminars….

    progressives and other leftists have total control over all aspects of our federal and state governments, including all law enforcement agencies and all large police forces are run by Blacks or a progressive leftists. The military is run by leftist progressive generals. The CIA and FBI is run by leftist progressives and the staff of these agencies are filled with leftist progressives. They will not enforce Supreme Court decisions which are based on the constitution , they have not defended our constitution for decades and are actively opposed to our bill of rights. The Supreme court realizes this and fear it will become obvious they have no real power to end affirmative action. So they will not pretend to grant Whites civil rights.

  66. @Art Deco
    @anonymous

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don’t have a middle class to guide them.

    Are you being ironic?

    (1) They won't be 'worse' at all. Blacks in salaried employment or operating small businesses don't live in the slum districts where all the social problems are. With some exceptions (clergymen, undertakers), they don't work there either.

    (2) The components of the black bourgeoisie which have the most direct contact with feral young people are schoolteachers, school administrators, social workers, clergymen, police officers, and public defenders.

    (3) There was a black middle class prior to 1966. They actually lived and worked among other strata of the black population.

    (4) AA is salient in public employment and in private higher education. North of 80% of the black population does not work in these sectors.

    (5) If I'm not mistaken, sociological studies of the black population indicate that relationships between collateral relatives are quite tenuous compared to what prevails in the rest of the population.


    What happens if you get rid of AA is that the black segment of the higher ed student body falls from 14% to 7% and the sort of ringer who ends up on the faculty will at a much earlier stage be diverted to some other sort of employment. In other sorts of employment, the 30% or 50% who spend a number of years attempting to build a career in a line of work to which they're unsuitable will be sluiced to more appropriate employment. Letitia James wouldn't have spent 10 years as a bottom-of-the-barrell lawyer. She'd have done something else.

    Replies: @Dan Smith, @Paperback Writer

    And Ibram X Kendi would have been a high school history teacher, possibly a coach.

  67. Excellent and well reasoned piece that is needed right now.

    But, to answer the question in your final line:

    Will the majority on the Supreme Court step forward to save the country from racism and destruction by restoring the Constitution?

    Not in a million years. At least not Roberts. And probably none of the three appointed by Trump, either.

  68. In reading Eric Striker this morning, United States of South Africa, I’d conclude that SCOTUS could give Sailerman his wish tomorrow but the black cops in the FBI, black judges in the courts and blacks in HR won’t comply. Waddyagonnadoabiwddit? SCOTUS? HaHaHa!

  69. @donut
    Sailer you're becoming as irrelevant to what's going on as Pat Buchanan .

    Replies: @Anon

    Sailer you’re becoming as irrelevant to what’s going on as Pat Buchanan .

    Explain please. What would you say is “going on”?

  70. Anon[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    So, I am going to list a series of principles and actions that could help hold the country together peacefully. ...
     
    My final objection here--and btw, Steve i think this is a terrific essay, not because any such stuff is going to happen, but because it raises these core issues--

    anyway, my final objection, is that even though in anno Georgius 2, it's all blackety, blackety, black--defunding cops, "white privilege", CRT--that isn't really *the* problem. Just an instantiation.

    The problem is minoritarianism, and critically immigration. Specifically immigration as a means toward political control and more importantly to destroy the nation--as a nation.

    Even if all your legal suggestions about following the actual Constitution and "equal protection" came to be, as long as there was continued mass immigration ... the nation is doomed. (It would just be a much more pleasant doom.)

    In contrast, if we could just permanently and forever *stop immigration*, i think the future gets much brighter. First off, pretty much all working and middle class Americans' economic prospects get a whole lot better. Secondly suddenly "we're all in this together". Look around ... this is who you're in the boat with.

    But critically, once immigration is blissfully, mercifully stopped, i think we'll start physically becoming a "one people" nation again. Not immediately, but in a couple/three generations what you have is roughly: a white-Asian-Latin middle/upper-middle class; a white-Latin working class; and then the blacks distributed over their class hierarchy. (And, of course, Jews still doing the Jewish thing--i.e. who don't want to integrate.) You'll still have our "legacy of slavery" problem--there's no switch we can flick to handle the last 10,000 years of evolution. But otherwise the nation will look much, much more one-peoplish than it does now. It will not be as nice as nice--nor as competitive--as it could have been if we hadn't gone down this route. But it can still be pretty nice.

    Immigration is really the key to--the fulcrum for--what our future looks like. How pleasant or unpleasant it is. Who you share a nation with is what really matters.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Anon, @Jack McArthur

    But critically, once immigration is blissfully, mercifully stopped, i think we’ll start physically becoming a “one people” nation again. Not immediately, but in a couple/three generations

    That would put unwelcome pressure on Jews to assimilate. For Jews to continue as a distinct group, it helps if the main outgroup that is proximate to them is fractured or made ugly.

  71. @AnotherDad

    Keep in mind that there is no way to divide the U.S. up geographically that will cure what ails us.
     
    There isn't any clear immediate geographic separation that works.

    But that isn't critical. There are schemes to achieve political separation--to get us out of each other's hair that are possible. (I've got one. I'm sure other folks have others.) And those could lead to geographic separation eventually.

    But more on point, i am certain that talking about separation--raising the issue--is critical.

    Separation does three things--which are really one thing:

    1) it makes the point that the shit the minoritarians are doing is really abusive--nation breaking; if you're going to get 'em to stop without separation they have to realize this.

    2) it makes a very powerful political point about who is actually oppressing whom; the people happy to walk away and go about their own business can not actually be the oppressors; (despite minoritarian propaganda)

    3) it--once people think about it--reveals who is actually parasitic upon whom; this reality will make our minoritarian bully boys very hostile to separation, but it also has the power to "rip back the curtain" and wake up white people

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @Jamie_NYC, @Ben tillman, @Nicholas Stix

    I tend to agree with this line of thinking, that separation isn’t feasible now or that it is all that likely now, but that it is due and likely eventually and is worth discussing in the present.

    I also agree with the notion that the caterwauling and panic would be enormous once such discussions actually started and the racist accusations would be over the top towards any party that even broached the subject. It would sounds like regular old racist sloganeering and rabble rousing but there would be an undercurrent of desperation that would be obvious to anyone paying attention.

    It would indeed be illuminating as the parasites began to realize that the hosts had discovered a new treatment that would be be starting shortly and promised to purge the parasites from their comfortable positions in the collective digestive track.

  72. @anonymous
    I don't see how CRT is going to destroy the US. What scenarios are you thinking will play out? In what timeline?

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don't have a middle class to guide them.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Wade Hampton, @International Jew, @Art Deco, @Some Guy, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones, @Mr. Rational, @Jack D, @bomag, @Currahee, @CapitalistRoader

    Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America

    As they seem to express dissent by shooting other blacks, I honestly don’t see the downside.

  73. I really don’t understand the purpose of your posts at Takis anymore, other than a lugubrious exercise in churning out retirement money.

    It’s pretty clear at this late stage of the game that your father’s fantasy nation is in terminal decline, yet you persevere in perpetuating the fantastical premises that are foundational to your people’s collapse into a pharmaceutical ruled junta .

    Who do you serve with your ongoing pretense that America is a nation, united, that stands for something, a people, an idea that inspires its native born people to unite under one banner?

    You’re an outcast, Sailer. Your children are outcasts, their friends adrift, and you still operate on the premise that the USA is something worthy of respect.

    “He does not leave the guilty unpunished; He punishes the children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation.”

    The sins of Gen Boomer began with their own parents.

    Your forefathers started both world wars. Your antecedents attacked all White People.

    • Troll: Harry Baldwin
  74. @Anonymous
    In California, shiftless negroes have the right to steal merchandise from any store, as long as the take doesn’t exceed $950, and they’re continuing to exercise their rights daily:

    https://twitter.com/adamcarolla/status/1417629839809339392?s=20

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @El Dato, @anon

    USD 949.99 here, USD 949.99 there … within 24h you are talking a serious amount of money!

  75. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Not really.

    Hollywood traditionally made the FBI and the Marines the good guys and often made the CIA the bad guys, so in the 1990s the CIA sent Chase Brandon to Hollywood to help get movies made in which the CIA is the good guys. I reviewed the first movie to come out of this effort around 2002, with Al Pacino and that Irish kid who was supposed to be the next huge star.

    So, no, Ben Affleck is not a CIA agent. His movie Argo is based on a story that the CIA wanted told and he got some tours of CIA headquarters and the like to help him get in character, but basically it was the same thing the FBI has been doing with movie makers since maybe the 1930s.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Corvinus, @Corvinus

    I reviewed the first movie to come out of this effort around 2002, with Al Pacino and that Irish kid who was supposed to be the next huge star.

    https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2003/01/30/Film-of-the-Week-Pacino-in-The-Recruit/13381043940228/

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @MEH 0910

    Lol thought he meant Scent of a Woman.

    Should have known better. We need to build that CIA.

  76. @Desiderius
    @anonymous

    https://twitter.com/YungSpengler/status/1417651699259428866?s=20

    This is not a drill.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Ben tillman, @Ralph L, @MEH 0910

    As I allowed myself to mention earlier, this scene has to be redone with much more blacks and other ethnicities:

    “Congratulations. The trucks are rolling!”

    • Thanks: MEH 0910
  77. Good piece Steve. But a bit naive I think.

    I am a lawyer and my remaining faith in judges upholding the “rule of law” or Constitutional principles has nearly evaporated.

    You say the courts should argue “two wrongs don’t make a right.” But Obama’s top lawyer was one Eric Holder, who once famously said “when they go low, we go lower.” The majority of lawyers supported Obama and Holder, particularly the younger ones. Caldwell may not be a lawyer, but he was definitely onto something.

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    @Redman

    Watch for a significant change in the quantity, quality, and passion of the pro-white briefing the Court receives.

    , @Anonymous
    @Redman


    I am a lawyer and my remaining faith in judges upholding the “rule of law” or Constitutional principles has nearly evaporated.
     
    What have you observed, specifically, that has shaken your faith?
  78. @Dieter Kief
    Yeah, in modern societies, words on paper can make a difference.

    Replies: @Desiderius, @El Dato

    This is apposite

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    @El Dato

    Thanks, El Dato for hinting how unintentionally ever - at my birth, actually. - Some Unz Review commenters are something else. (I wrote the second sentence right before I checked that birth-parallel, which is pretty accurate indeed).

  79. @anonymous
    I don't see how CRT is going to destroy the US. What scenarios are you thinking will play out? In what timeline?

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don't have a middle class to guide them.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Wade Hampton, @International Jew, @Art Deco, @Some Guy, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones, @Mr. Rational, @Jack D, @bomag, @Currahee, @CapitalistRoader

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard.

    That part of the black “middle class” is fake.  It is not based on ability or work, but on quotas and entitlement.  It is dysgenic and dyscivilizational.

    Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don’t have a middle class to guide them.

    Let me say right here that I have no fucks left to give about blacks, but they would be much better off if their guidance came from legitimate successes rather than bad apples promoted far outside their competence for the sake of “optics”.

    • Agree: JerseyJeffersonian
    • Replies: @anonymous
    @Mr. Rational

    You sound like you have a lot of racial animosity towards blacks.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

  80. One could hope the Supremes to the rescues. My money is on pigs flying before that happens. Roberts is a wiener. Kavanaugh is a three legged gelding. Barrett is black pet owner and closet liberal. Gorsuch is a liberated libertarian. Alito and Thomas are old but principled. The libs are trusted to do right by their side. May not agree with liberal justices, but kudos for their loyalty.

  81. Anonymous[292] • Disclaimer says:

    One piece of good news I woke up to today. The U.S. women’s soccer team got shellacked and shut out by Sweden 3-0.


    Sweden team is attractive… and they look like women


    U.S. women’s soccer team wearing ‘Black Lives Matter’ shirts

    • Agree: JimDandy
    • Replies: @anon
    @Anonymous

    The U.S. women’s soccer team got shellacked

    https://media.giphy.com/media/c8YC8htf5YQg0/giphy.gif

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    , @Sick of Orcs
    @Anonymous

    "Soccer hot" has a low bar, but compared to USA's anti-White freakazoids the Swedes are sirens.

    , @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous

    Foul.

    Not the Swedes--the Swedish gals look like normal healthy young women--but the Americans. I'd say two of the women might have some character--not taking a knee--except they're also wearing BLM shirts. Male athletes are bad enough. These are lemmings. Not a single decent woman in the bunch. America doesn't seem to raise many women of character anymore. (And unfortunately fewer men of character as well.)

    Replies: @Ola

  82. @Almost Missouri
    @ArthurinCali


    At worst, it will be the ending to our country’s existence.
     
    Ending our country's existence would be the middle case. Worst case—also described by Polistra—is that the CRT Regime carries on dominance of a unified country. And unfortunately, that looks like the most likely case right now.

    Replies: @ArthurinCali

    I think my comment has been misunderstood. Let me clarify by adding that I meant if the black/white racial dynamic continues to be the hook in our country’s nose, then it will lead to strife and bloodshed.

    To the point, if it is no longer ok to be white, if equality under the law and any semblance of sanity is not restored, then Western Civilization is doomed.

  83. @MEH 0910
    @Steve Sailer


    I reviewed the first movie to come out of this effort around 2002, with Al Pacino and that Irish kid who was supposed to be the next huge star.
     
    https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2003/01/30/Film-of-the-Week-Pacino-in-The-Recruit/13381043940228/

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Lol thought he meant Scent of a Woman.

    Should have known better. We need to build that CIA.

  84. @Henry Canaday
    Who is looking wiser in retrospect, the Steve Sailer who years ago said we should restrict affirmative action to historically native blacks rather the let it expand it to cover all NAMs, or the John Roberts who, again years ago, said “the way to stop discriminating by race is to stop discriminating by race?”

    All Roberts has to do is to follow his own, younger advice.

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Desiderius

  85. I am not a lawyer either. I would appreciate being corrected by the lawyers who comment here, but I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the phrase “protected class” means.

    Protected class refers to race, not blacks or whites. Theoretically, the civil Rights laws protect anyone of any race, and occasionally, whites have proven that they were discriminated against on the basis of race. So there’s that.

    The problem is everything else. It’s the society that interprets these laws. You have to bang away on the original meaning of the civil rights laws, not start a wild goose chase creating whites as an ethnic group. This is bound to fail. But then again, banging away doesn’t do much good either. It is catch 22 all over again.

    Secondly, the Supreme Court has already ruled on the subject of compelled speech. (A black mother in Nevada is suing on exactly this basis.) Look up 1943 Barnett versus state of West Virginia. There is no doubt in my mind that critical race theory, as it is currently being practiced, is a total violation of compelled speech.

    So I am absolutely certain that parents can win on those narrow legal grounds. But as Richard Hanania has pointed out, the problem is so much bigger. I am old enough to remember when, many years ago, the conservative forces in New York City (and we had) them, got rid of “Heather has two mommies” in the curriculum.

    Look where that got us.

    • Replies: @Alan D
    @Paperback Writer

    I like the phrase "compelled speech". I have sometimes used "lack of freedom of silence" to mean the same thing.

    In most dictatorships the citizen does not have freedom of speech, by definition, but he does have freedom of silence. He was not allowed to criticise Mussolini, but did not have to praise him if he didn't want to. However, in China the citizen had to praise Chairman Mao - he could not remain silent.

    Here in Australia public figures have to praise people such as women in non-traditional fields and Aborigines, but at this stage the average citizen is generally allowed to say nothing.

  86. 1619 Project can be seen as a Squatter’s Rights battle between two main Left factions with the 1620 Brahmins on the Elite team and Blacks on the 1619 team staking prior claim to primacy.

    Mirror image of battle on the Right between the patriotic Nation of Shopkeepers political prisoners and corrupt Con Inc MIC who is putting them there.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Desiderius

    Lind's a blockhead. The principal villain was the patriarch of a lumpen family who lived at the town dump, not an ordinary farming family or a wage-earning family. Lee was also assiduous about portraying her characters from different angles if they appeared in more than one scene. The characters Lee skewered without qualification were the missionary society lady Mrs. Merriwether and the narrator's 2d cousin.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Paperback Writer

  87. @AndrewR
    Don't expect Amy "I cried with my black children when St George of Minneapolis was murdered" to help us. Clarence Thomas is the only one who could be counted on.

    Replies: @Barnard, @Anonymous

    Alito would do the right thing on this issue also. How we lucked into George W. Bush appointing him we will never know. It appears the only two reliable Supreme Court Justices on racial issues were appointed by the Bush family, who will abhor their opinions in their desire to turn the U.S. into a Latin American type state. One of Trump’s picks might also want to throw us a bone here, you are correct, it won’t Amy Coney Barrett.

    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
    @Barnard

    Alito is the best m. the right hadnt had a right wing Id justice for a long time until he came along. I’ve been saying for years pick the nerds who know they’ll never be glamorous no matter how they vote. Hell the clerks write the decisions anyways and Gorsuch and Alito are plenty smart. Just start nominating state school judges there clerks can write the decisions and alito can make sure that the state school judges clerks don’t pull any fast ones. Tell whoever is running Liberty now to fire up a law school and just start appointing those kids to the bench. The idea that judges need to be smart is pure window dressing.

    Word is Gorsuch hates Kavanaugh and Roberts and is increasingly falling into line with Alito and Thomas. It’s a 3/3/3 court now which is infuriating but at least the Federalist Society has been discredited.

  88. @SafeNow
    Brown vs. Board was 9-0, with the opinion written by the chief justice. These factors greatly enhanced its moral and legal authority. What Steve seeks would probably receive a 5-4 opinion, with 5 justices endorsing a general rule, while 4 justices wimp-out by writing a concurring opinion limiting the white rights to the narrow facts of the case. Advocates of unequal justice in America would then loudly proclaim victory; a divided court. In the shadow of this divided opinion, unequal justice would continue. In fact, it might be emboldened, and get worse.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @bomag, @AnotherDad

    There was nothing wrong with the Brown decision.

    Brown was a slam dunk because Linda Brown had to be bused out of her white neighborhood school to a black school. She just wanted to go to her local school. Anyone disagree with that?

    An avalanche of crazy decisions in the courts in essence overturned Brown to legalize busing for racial balance.

    And that is what is so insane about this country.

  89. @viva
    It was put quite brilliantly a long time ago in Spain:

    "Half the nation will not resign itself to die. If it cannot defend itself by one path, it will defend itself by another."

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Nah, Spain doesn’t have 50 states, many of them thinly populated, and by a very diverse majority population that has little in common.

  90. @AnotherDad

    So, I am going to list a series of principles and actions that could help hold the country together peacefully. ...
     
    My final objection here--and btw, Steve i think this is a terrific essay, not because any such stuff is going to happen, but because it raises these core issues--

    anyway, my final objection, is that even though in anno Georgius 2, it's all blackety, blackety, black--defunding cops, "white privilege", CRT--that isn't really *the* problem. Just an instantiation.

    The problem is minoritarianism, and critically immigration. Specifically immigration as a means toward political control and more importantly to destroy the nation--as a nation.

    Even if all your legal suggestions about following the actual Constitution and "equal protection" came to be, as long as there was continued mass immigration ... the nation is doomed. (It would just be a much more pleasant doom.)

    In contrast, if we could just permanently and forever *stop immigration*, i think the future gets much brighter. First off, pretty much all working and middle class Americans' economic prospects get a whole lot better. Secondly suddenly "we're all in this together". Look around ... this is who you're in the boat with.

    But critically, once immigration is blissfully, mercifully stopped, i think we'll start physically becoming a "one people" nation again. Not immediately, but in a couple/three generations what you have is roughly: a white-Asian-Latin middle/upper-middle class; a white-Latin working class; and then the blacks distributed over their class hierarchy. (And, of course, Jews still doing the Jewish thing--i.e. who don't want to integrate.) You'll still have our "legacy of slavery" problem--there's no switch we can flick to handle the last 10,000 years of evolution. But otherwise the nation will look much, much more one-peoplish than it does now. It will not be as nice as nice--nor as competitive--as it could have been if we hadn't gone down this route. But it can still be pretty nice.

    Immigration is really the key to--the fulcrum for--what our future looks like. How pleasant or unpleasant it is. Who you share a nation with is what really matters.

    Replies: @RichardTaylor, @Anon, @Jack McArthur

    But critically, once immigration is blissfully, mercifully stopped, i think we’ll start physically becoming a “one people” nation again. Not immediately, but in a couple/three generations what you have is roughly: a white-Asian-Latin middle/upper-middle class; a white-Latin working class; and then the blacks distributed over their class hierarchy. (And, of course, Jews still doing the Jewish thing–i.e. who don’t want to integrate.)

    Its not going to happen because of the parenthesized text. Ron Unz published recently figures describing the absolute dominance of the tribe in the media. I do not believe they have any free-will at all and that becomes, I assume, mitigation for what happens when they leave this world. The so called Christians who have betrayed their calling and indeed exercised their free will in taking the knee to evil, to pocketing the thirty pieces of silver, are in another line.

  91. Yes absolutely.

    The cowardly, timid Cuckservative, Conservative Inc or worst Paki and J Neo Conservative official line that

    Anti White Affirmative Action is bad because it hurts Blacks and other POC.

    Nope.

    Anti White programs like Affirmative Action, Critical Race Theory are bad because they specific target White European Americans for hatred, discrimination.

    Everyone in the know understands that no public figure can say or do negative things, words to protected classes like Jews, Gays, Muslims. If a Christian bakery doesn’t want to bake a homosexual wedding cake in some small town in Indiana the who state, mass media comes down to crush that small bakery.

    No hotel can say they will not rent a room to the NAACP or some open Black racist group like A “Black Congressional Caucus” but hotels routinely refuse to rent rooms to legal, well dressed White European advocacy groups like Amren and Vdare.

    Barack Obama’s Barbados light skinned Black Eric Holder openly said that the snuck through Federal Hate Crime law would only protect historic “Victim Groups.” – that excludes all White European Americans who aren’t Jewish.

    This is a good, winning issue – it plays in Peoria.

  92. @Achmed E. Newman
    @anonymous

    #837, much of the black middle class is in government, and I include lower education here. As old Ronnie would have said, they are not here to help you, as a White man, and, as #126 replied, they are really not here to lift up their fellow black people either. These jobs are just another welfare entitlement.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    #837, much of the black middle class is in government,

    Blacks are more likely to be public sector workers. The difference in propensity is modest, however, about 30%. A great deal of that is accounted for by postal service employees and metro transit employees, who are hourly employees.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Art Deco

    Art, no disrespect here, but just where do you live in which every government office of ANY kind is not chock full of black people, mostly women? You gave out numbers before, but the point is that a large portion of the black middle class work for the taxpayers. I don't know how much of the black population would be considered middle class. You didn't give this number with your others.

    BTW, some of the black men working for the city and the country are doing actual hard work - say the hauling off of the leaves, branches, etc., hauling garbage (a WHOLE lot easier though, now), and working on sidewalks, culverts, etc. Of course, I respect this work. As Peak Stupidity discussed in "Idle Hands are the Devil's Workshop", black guys especially seem to be most prone to getting in trouble when they don't have any real work to do.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    But blacks are not evenly distributed. Not a lot of black public sector workers in Idaho. But you go to DC and 97% of the transit drivers are black. Even some arms of the Federal gov. bureaucracy in DC (e.g. staff of the Dept. of Education) are very heavily black.

    And 30% greater propensity is by itself a significant #. It reflects that the governments thumb on the scale in favor of blacks is most present in government employment itself. And once blacks capture an agency, the discrimination against whites becomes intolerably high. In the DC transit system, whites are seen as a threat by their dumber, more corrupt colleagues and the bureaucracy does everything it can to squeeze them out. At this point, any white with brains doesn't even bother trying. If the DC transit system workforce was 97% white this would be seen as intolerable but since it's 97% black this is okey-dokey. Blacks can't be racist by definition.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/26/metro-derailed-by-culture-of-complacence-incompete/

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jim Don Bob

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Art Deco

    A 30% difference, applied to the major metro areas where blacks do dominate the public sector, is enormous.

    NYC transit workers are not hourly employees. They are members of the Transit Workers Union, whose leader, "Red" Mike Quill, brought the city to its knees in 1966.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Quill

    Replies: @Art Deco

    , @Alden
    @Art Deco

    A “ working class” hourly employee like a big city bus driver who makes 100K plus a year can afford a much more prosperous middle class life style than a 40K a year salaried cubicle coolie

    Replies: @Art Deco

  93. What the Supreme Court Can Do to Save America

    If the Supreme Court has to do it, it isn’t worth doing. It’s up to the people to do it.

  94. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/scjohnson90/status/1417682508645347330?s=20

    1619 Project can be seen as a Squatter's Rights battle between two main Left factions with the 1620 Brahmins on the Elite team and Blacks on the 1619 team staking prior claim to primacy.

    Mirror image of battle on the Right between the patriotic Nation of Shopkeepers political prisoners and corrupt Con Inc MIC who is putting them there.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Lind’s a blockhead. The principal villain was the patriarch of a lumpen family who lived at the town dump, not an ordinary farming family or a wage-earning family. Lee was also assiduous about portraying her characters from different angles if they appeared in more than one scene. The characters Lee skewered without qualification were the missionary society lady Mrs. Merriwether and the narrator’s 2d cousin.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    What an author intends in her book and the message that gets filtered into the popular consciousness after getting scripted into a Hollywood movie and being taught by muddle headed HS English teachers are two completely different things. From her (posthumously published) sequel, it's clear that she intended Atticus to be a more nuanced character but to the average American, Atticus IS Gregory Peck, pure hearted superhero. Even if you give a close reading to Lee's works, you can never unsee Atticus as the Hollywood Peck.

    The thing about culture wars is this - only one side can win. Either Robert E. Lee or V.I. Lenin is a hero worthy of statuary or else his image must be torn down and desecrated. There is no middle ground.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Desiderius

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Art Deco

    Did you actually read the freakin' review?

    Here it is, for those of us who actually DO read the source material:

    https://www.thesmartset.com/article02161501/

    Lind's point, which you evidently missed, is that Lee demonized a poor white family in a way that utterly removed it from consideration as great literature.

    Great literature seeks to illuminate. In Tess, the master Thomas Hardy is capable of more insight in a few brushstrokes than a thousand pages of Lee's middle-brow tripe. (See: Car Darch, a minor character, and of course the feckless Durbeyfield parents.)

    And he wasn't just referring to Lee. It was a whole passel of 20th Century Southern writers. But then you'd have seen that if you'd read the article.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  95. Sorry, but a world where Dev Patel plays “The Green Knight,” and white fanbois wet their pants with excitement about it, is a world where whites will never get anything again.

    Trump foolishly listened to the Federalist Society and gave us two mega-cucks for the Supreme Court. Kavanaugh and Black Mommy Lady will not in a million years vote in favor of whites as such.

  96. @Art Deco
    @Achmed E. Newman

    #837, much of the black middle class is in government,

    Blacks are more likely to be public sector workers. The difference in propensity is modest, however, about 30%. A great deal of that is accounted for by postal service employees and metro transit employees, who are hourly employees.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jack D, @Paperback Writer, @Alden

    Art, no disrespect here, but just where do you live in which every government office of ANY kind is not chock full of black people, mostly women? You gave out numbers before, but the point is that a large portion of the black middle class work for the taxpayers. I don’t know how much of the black population would be considered middle class. You didn’t give this number with your others.

    BTW, some of the black men working for the city and the country are doing actual hard work – say the hauling off of the leaves, branches, etc., hauling garbage (a WHOLE lot easier though, now), and working on sidewalks, culverts, etc. Of course, I respect this work. As Peak Stupidity discussed in “Idle Hands are the Devil’s Workshop”, black guys especially seem to be most prone to getting in trouble when they don’t have any real work to do.

    • Agree: Redman
    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Art, no disrespect here, but just where do you live in which every government office of ANY kind is not chock full of black people, mostly women?

    I've lived in three different cities and in small towns as well. Blacks constitute about 12% of the working population so will be found in noticeable numbers lots of places. As we speak, about 18% of all federal civilian employees are black. The same applies to active-duty military.

    Discrete occupations where (1) blacks are abnormally common and (2) public employment is common are as follows:

    Postal clerks (38.4%)
    Bus drivers (37%)
    Jail and prison guards (32.9%)
    Postal mail sorters &c (31.1%)
    Jail and prison guards, supervisory (30.6%)
    Community and social service employees, NOS (30.4%)
    Garbage collectors (27.9%)
    Probation officers (26.9%)
    Social workers, child-family-school (26.8%)
    Social workers, NOS (25.7%)
    Drug counselors (25.4%)
    Court, municipal, and license clerks (23.1%)
    Bus drivers, school (21.5%)
    Eligibility interviewers (20.7%)
    Guidance counselors (19%)
    Social and human service assistants (18.9%)
    Letter carriers (18.7%)
    Locomotive engineers (18.6%)
    Social and community service managers (18.3%)
    Judges, magistrates &c (16.1%)
    Coaches and scouts (14.7%)
    Tax examiners, collectors &c (14.5%)
    Education and childcare administrators (14.3%)
    Budget analysts (13.9%)
    Detectives and criminal investigators (13.9%)
    Teaching assistants (13.6%)


    About 4.3% of the working population is found in these occupations. About 20% of those employed in these occupations are black. There are 1.28 million blacks employed in these occupations, accounting for 7% of the population of working blacks.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education, @Achmed E. Newman

  97. @anonymous
    I don't see how CRT is going to destroy the US. What scenarios are you thinking will play out? In what timeline?

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don't have a middle class to guide them.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Wade Hampton, @International Jew, @Art Deco, @Some Guy, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones, @Mr. Rational, @Jack D, @bomag, @Currahee, @CapitalistRoader

    Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don’t have a middle class to guide them.

    (Unlike the past) middle class blacks are not the role model for ghetto blacks already so it couldn’t be any worse than it is now. The first thing a black does upon gaining middle class status is move as far from the ghetto as possible (of course they bring the ghetto with them with their unruly kids in the back seat, but never mind). And ghetto blacks don’t aspire to be accountants and pharmacists – their role models are rappers and pro-athletes.

    • Replies: @J1234
    @Jack D


    And ghetto blacks don’t aspire to be accountants and pharmacists – their role models are rappers and pro-athletes.
     
    This is basically correct. Live-for-the-moment blacks are rarely going to be inspired or guided by plan-for-the-future blacks (or any other like minded people.) Radicalism provides them with a much more streamlined (and exciting) moral, logical and political framework, one that seems to better fit their temperament. Also, for much of flamboyant and showy black America, becoming just like everyone else with no special attributes (such as a historically unique victimhood) would mean leaving the center stage of society, and I don't believe they could handle that emotionally.

    Anyway, the "plan-for-the-future" black middle class I mentioned is - to one degree or another - a myth created by utopianists (like anonymous) from a broad range of political perspectives for a broad range of reasons. It exists, but the black middle class is mostly a product of an affirmative action that de-emphasizes self improvement in favor of external improvement (I'm not to blame for my impoverished state, society is, so it should change, not me.)
  98. @Art Deco
    @Desiderius

    Lind's a blockhead. The principal villain was the patriarch of a lumpen family who lived at the town dump, not an ordinary farming family or a wage-earning family. Lee was also assiduous about portraying her characters from different angles if they appeared in more than one scene. The characters Lee skewered without qualification were the missionary society lady Mrs. Merriwether and the narrator's 2d cousin.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Paperback Writer

    What an author intends in her book and the message that gets filtered into the popular consciousness after getting scripted into a Hollywood movie and being taught by muddle headed HS English teachers are two completely different things. From her (posthumously published) sequel, it’s clear that she intended Atticus to be a more nuanced character but to the average American, Atticus IS Gregory Peck, pure hearted superhero. Even if you give a close reading to Lee’s works, you can never unsee Atticus as the Hollywood Peck.

    The thing about culture wars is this – only one side can win. Either Robert E. Lee or V.I. Lenin is a hero worthy of statuary or else his image must be torn down and desecrated. There is no middle ground.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D


    What an author intends in her book and the message that gets filtered into the popular consciousness after getting scripted into a Hollywood movie and being taught by muddle headed HS English teachers are two completely different things.
     
    True.

    Not only that, but the book was carefully produced with the help of a Brooklyn Quaker editrix named Tae Hohoff.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_Hohoff

    I am NOT suggesting, as some have that Lee didn't write the book. She wrote every word. But in those days star editors and their pet writers worked together much more closely than in today's slapdash world.

    Joseph Heller said that his editor, Robert Gottlieb, worked with him on Catch-22 "like a surgeon." Every sentence was combed over.

    I am positive that Hohoff's Brooklyn Quakerism had a huge effect on the published novel.
    , @Desiderius
    @Jack D

    Of course there is. Analysis and Synthesis never stops. One of the things new generations are for.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  99. @anonymous
    I don't see how CRT is going to destroy the US. What scenarios are you thinking will play out? In what timeline?

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don't have a middle class to guide them.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Wade Hampton, @International Jew, @Art Deco, @Some Guy, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones, @Mr. Rational, @Jack D, @bomag, @Currahee, @CapitalistRoader

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard.

    Current AA effects are crippling the country beyond what a more honest policy would do.

    The current arc is killing off YT. The extant black middle class does not exist without YT.

  100. O/T The Ivy League’s anti-trust exemption for financial aid to students expires next year. Currently they review offers to students to keep the aid needs-based which can result in even the poorest students paying at least $10,000 a year (it’s tough I know). Without the exemption they’d be free to compete for the most desirable students

    Who do you think the most desirable will be. Obviously academic superstars but who else? The author, a Clinton alum who reluctantly signed off on the original exemption, thinks they will turn out to be disproportionately PoC

    So Its not enough that the Ivy League medical schools will admit PoC students with grades that would barely get an White student in at the lowest ranked school. Now they’ll be offering minority students signing bonuses as well!

    https://newrepublic.com/article/163001/congress-let-ivy-league-operate-monopoly

  101. @SafeNow
    Brown vs. Board was 9-0, with the opinion written by the chief justice. These factors greatly enhanced its moral and legal authority. What Steve seeks would probably receive a 5-4 opinion, with 5 justices endorsing a general rule, while 4 justices wimp-out by writing a concurring opinion limiting the white rights to the narrow facts of the case. Advocates of unequal justice in America would then loudly proclaim victory; a divided court. In the shadow of this divided opinion, unequal justice would continue. In fact, it might be emboldened, and get worse.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @bomag, @AnotherDad

    The victory is getting the court to even consider such things.

  102. Anonymous[680] • Disclaimer says:

    The Supreme Court coming to the rescue of America? ha!

    The Supreme Court is a significant culprit for the sad state of modern America.

    -In 1971 (Griggs v. Duke Power) they ruled unanimously that IQ tests and high school graduation requirements for employment, even if administered in a color blind fashion, were unconstitutional. This overturned the lower courts who had decided they were constitutional. This gave birth to the whole “disparate impact” nonsense that if blacks are 12-13% of the general pop, they should be 12-13% of the workforce in any given occupation.

    -In a similar vein, in 2003 they decided that 25 more years (moderate squish O’Connor concurred) of AA in college admissions -AKA blatant discrimination against whites (and Asians)- was permissible. Any college considering the inverse, say discriminating against blacks and Hispanics, even in “limited form,” would surely send libs into an epileptic rage and be struck down by the Court in unanimous fashion.

    -A few years back they punted on a case in CA involving (white) public high school students who were sent home for wearing American flag shirts (The unmitigated gall! In America?! Why I never!) b/c those shirts offended Mexican-origin students; clearly a blatant contradiction of a Warren era decision that allowed students opposed to the Vietnam war to wear wristbands to protest that war.

    On demographic change:
    SCOTUS rule in 1982 5-4 that public schools must admit illegal aliens, no questions asked, no money required. This is a huge (and overlooked) reason for the current “crisis” of so-called dreamers (young adult illegals brought to the US as kids and subsequently educated and raised here). Plus a Brennen footnote to this decision gave us anchor babies.
    For a moment just imagine if this case had gone the other way. We’d have far fewer “Dreamers” and wouldn’t be saddled with millions of anchor babies, plus the relatives they sponsored when turning 21, clogging up the country.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  103. @Art Deco
    @Achmed E. Newman

    #837, much of the black middle class is in government,

    Blacks are more likely to be public sector workers. The difference in propensity is modest, however, about 30%. A great deal of that is accounted for by postal service employees and metro transit employees, who are hourly employees.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jack D, @Paperback Writer, @Alden

    But blacks are not evenly distributed. Not a lot of black public sector workers in Idaho. But you go to DC and 97% of the transit drivers are black. Even some arms of the Federal gov. bureaucracy in DC (e.g. staff of the Dept. of Education) are very heavily black.

    And 30% greater propensity is by itself a significant #. It reflects that the governments thumb on the scale in favor of blacks is most present in government employment itself. And once blacks capture an agency, the discrimination against whites becomes intolerably high. In the DC transit system, whites are seen as a threat by their dumber, more corrupt colleagues and the bureaucracy does everything it can to squeeze them out. At this point, any white with brains doesn’t even bother trying. If the DC transit system workforce was 97% white this would be seen as intolerable but since it’s 97% black this is okey-dokey. Blacks can’t be racist by definition.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/26/metro-derailed-by-culture-of-complacence-incompete/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jack D


    some arms of the Federal gov. bureaucracy in DC (e.g. staff of the Dept. of Education) are very heavily black.

     

    Agree. If you go to the massive Dept. of Agriculture building in D.C. or the massive Dept. of Ag campus in Greenbelt she will see a clear majority of obese black women and a parking lot full of late-model Mercedes and Lexuses. Same thing at Dept. of Homeland Security, FEMA, Dept. of Energy, HUD, HHS, OPM, et al., in D.C. The only white males you see are either flamboyantly gay or nerdy (tech guy or scientist if at Energy) or middle-age rednecky guys with U.S. Army or Air Force lanyards.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack D


    And 30% greater propensity is by itself a significant #. It reflects that the governments thumb on the scale in favor of blacks is most present in government employment itself. And once blacks capture an agency, the discrimination against whites becomes intolerably high.
     
    A Federal judge ruled that the Biden regime cannot pay black farmers disaster relief (or whatever) before white farmers. Does anyone seriously believe that this order will stop a woke bureaucracy from doing what it wants? When was that last time anybody in government got punished for anything?
  104. Thank you Steve. This essay is timely. In response to any and all who propose this or that entry point, I add my bit:

    We need to make it okay to be white. We need to say, “I like being white, I like my white friends, I want my children to attend white schools with white teachers.” We need to say these things, out loud, in the presence of negroes, then we need to defend ourselves from violent physical and verbal assaults. Defence in the form of filing charges of assault (and probably battery) against violent negroes and violently virtue-signalling whites is probably the first step, to be followed by lawsuits filed in various courts asserting white rights (i.e. the right to be white and to like being white and to choose to socialize with other whites).

    Lawsuits are expensive. Test cases require oganization and funding to propel only certain cases forward. I predict the first test cases will be the defence of the organization. Fine, so be it.

    I onced asked an older person from the deep South if he had known any Klansmen. His response, “Those people are beneath us.” We need to keep it that way.

    Lastly, we need to keep it about whiteness. In response to questions, “Do you support BLM, what do you think of Affirmative Action blah blah blackity blackity black,” the only valid response is “I like being white.”

  105. Recommended edit in the OP:

    Rationalizations such as “We are not attacking white people per se, just whiteness” must be laughed out of court as feebleminded excuses for race-based hate. To use schools and workplaces to attack whiteness is to attack whites for their race, which is against the law.

    …may be enhanced as such:

    Rationalizations such as “We are not attacking white people per se, just whiteness” must be laughed out of court as feebleminded excuses for race-based hate the same way everyone knows “we are not attacking Jewish people per se, just ‘Jewishness’” or “we are not attacking black people per se, just ‘blackness’” is immediately recognized as hateful, racist drivel. To use schools and workplaces to attack whiteness is to attack whites for their race, which is hateful, repugnant and against the law.

  106. Want a better and faster solution? Get rid of the Supreme Court altogether. They will never be on your side and never have been. And the Supreme Court is nowhere in the Constitution, not even reading between the lines..

    • Disagree: Gamecock
  107. As you can tell from their sidestepping of the election cases, they ain’t gonna do jack to save America.

    Barrett, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch weren’t really Trump’s judges after all, they were Mitch’s. Therefore expect them to be loyal to the corporate oligarchs, not the American people, our traditions, or our laws.

  108. @Art Deco
    @anonymous

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don’t have a middle class to guide them.

    Are you being ironic?

    (1) They won't be 'worse' at all. Blacks in salaried employment or operating small businesses don't live in the slum districts where all the social problems are. With some exceptions (clergymen, undertakers), they don't work there either.

    (2) The components of the black bourgeoisie which have the most direct contact with feral young people are schoolteachers, school administrators, social workers, clergymen, police officers, and public defenders.

    (3) There was a black middle class prior to 1966. They actually lived and worked among other strata of the black population.

    (4) AA is salient in public employment and in private higher education. North of 80% of the black population does not work in these sectors.

    (5) If I'm not mistaken, sociological studies of the black population indicate that relationships between collateral relatives are quite tenuous compared to what prevails in the rest of the population.


    What happens if you get rid of AA is that the black segment of the higher ed student body falls from 14% to 7% and the sort of ringer who ends up on the faculty will at a much earlier stage be diverted to some other sort of employment. In other sorts of employment, the 30% or 50% who spend a number of years attempting to build a career in a line of work to which they're unsuitable will be sluiced to more appropriate employment. Letitia James wouldn't have spent 10 years as a bottom-of-the-barrell lawyer. She'd have done something else.

    Replies: @Dan Smith, @Paperback Writer

    (1) They won’t be ‘worse’ at all. Blacks in salaried employment or operating small businesses don’t live in the slum districts where all the social problems are. With some exceptions (clergymen, undertakers), they don’t work there either.

    They’ll be worse off without quotas because they will have to compete with others on a level playing field. See: Gottfredson. Some other commenter did a good job of recapping her findings. Search for it.

    (2) The components of the black bourgeoisie which have the most direct contact with feral young people are schoolteachers, school administrators, social workers, clergymen, police officers, and public defenders.

    So what? That’s true of white SJWs, and other Goodwhites, and it doesn’t change their opinions an iota. In any case I fail to see the relevance to the issue of black competitiveness.

    (3) There was a black middle class prior to 1966. They actually lived and worked among other strata of the black population.

    Here we get to the heart of the matter. It amazes me how you’re able to cite facts and then miss the essence. Prior to 1966 blacks mainly competed with other blacks in a society segregated by custom and law.

    This was bad for many blacks but great for the elite. Someone like Katherine Johnson or David Blackwell (look him up) were the top of the pyramid. Have them compete with whites and they’re good, but not great. (Look up the story about Blackwell and John Von Neumann.)

    This worked all down the line – middling successful blacks, competing with Everyone Else, would not be middling – they’d be lower class, possibly working poor.

    So what was your point?

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Paperback Writer


    Someone like Katherine Johnson or David Blackwell (look him up) were the top of the pyramid.
     
    David Blackwell was a real mathematician who proved new theorems and thus expanded human knowledge. I learned some of his work in college and grad school. Katherine Johnson was, I'm sure, a nice lady and good at her job, but she was a clerical worker; she calculated rocket trajectories all right but she did so by plugging numbers into formulas other people derived and gave her.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @Jack D
    @Paperback Writer


    Look up the story about Blackwell and John Von Neumann.
     
    This is unfair because Von Neumann was a once in a generation genius - he was literally the smartest man on earth. Chances are that if he spent ten minutes talking to you about any (mathematical) subject, at the end of 10 minutes he would understand it better than you did, regardless of what color you were. Feynman was like this also. He was the spoiler of many a dissertation because a student would come in with what he thought was a suitably difficult and new research worthy problem and Feynman would solve it on the spot (for a particularly difficult problem he might take overnight).

    But you are right in the sense that there never has been a black von Neumann and there probably never will be.

    Replies: @nebulafox

  109. @Anonymous
    In California, shiftless negroes have the right to steal merchandise from any store, as long as the take doesn’t exceed $950, and they’re continuing to exercise their rights daily:

    https://twitter.com/adamcarolla/status/1417629839809339392?s=20

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @El Dato, @anon

    Dude, that’s just reparations. Because redlining and Jim Crow and slabery and Emmett Till and stuff.

  110. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    What an author intends in her book and the message that gets filtered into the popular consciousness after getting scripted into a Hollywood movie and being taught by muddle headed HS English teachers are two completely different things. From her (posthumously published) sequel, it's clear that she intended Atticus to be a more nuanced character but to the average American, Atticus IS Gregory Peck, pure hearted superhero. Even if you give a close reading to Lee's works, you can never unsee Atticus as the Hollywood Peck.

    The thing about culture wars is this - only one side can win. Either Robert E. Lee or V.I. Lenin is a hero worthy of statuary or else his image must be torn down and desecrated. There is no middle ground.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Desiderius

    What an author intends in her book and the message that gets filtered into the popular consciousness after getting scripted into a Hollywood movie and being taught by muddle headed HS English teachers are two completely different things.

    True.

    Not only that, but the book was carefully produced with the help of a Brooklyn Quaker editrix named Tae Hohoff.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_Hohoff

    I am NOT suggesting, as some have that Lee didn’t write the book. She wrote every word. But in those days star editors and their pet writers worked together much more closely than in today’s slapdash world.

    Joseph Heller said that his editor, Robert Gottlieb, worked with him on Catch-22 “like a surgeon.” Every sentence was combed over.

    I am positive that Hohoff’s Brooklyn Quakerism had a huge effect on the published novel.

  111. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    What an author intends in her book and the message that gets filtered into the popular consciousness after getting scripted into a Hollywood movie and being taught by muddle headed HS English teachers are two completely different things. From her (posthumously published) sequel, it's clear that she intended Atticus to be a more nuanced character but to the average American, Atticus IS Gregory Peck, pure hearted superhero. Even if you give a close reading to Lee's works, you can never unsee Atticus as the Hollywood Peck.

    The thing about culture wars is this - only one side can win. Either Robert E. Lee or V.I. Lenin is a hero worthy of statuary or else his image must be torn down and desecrated. There is no middle ground.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @Desiderius

    Of course there is. Analysis and Synthesis never stops. One of the things new generations are for.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Desiderius

    Jack D:


    There is no middle ground.
     
    Desiderius:

    Of course there is. Analysis and Synthesis never stops. One of the things new generations are for.
     
    Maybe, but Jack has a point. Beyond tearing down statues, other features of recent European history, i.e. the outright genocide of millions, may soon become a feature of recent American history. With enough will, it’s always possible to wipe out the other side’s “new generations”. Your “middle ground” will be a literal coast-to-coast battlefield.

    Thesis, Antithesis, Nemesis.

    Replies: @Jack D, @El Dato, @Anonymous

  112. @AnotherDad

    Keep in mind that there is no way to divide the U.S. up geographically that will cure what ails us.
     
    There isn't any clear immediate geographic separation that works.

    But that isn't critical. There are schemes to achieve political separation--to get us out of each other's hair that are possible. (I've got one. I'm sure other folks have others.) And those could lead to geographic separation eventually.

    But more on point, i am certain that talking about separation--raising the issue--is critical.

    Separation does three things--which are really one thing:

    1) it makes the point that the shit the minoritarians are doing is really abusive--nation breaking; if you're going to get 'em to stop without separation they have to realize this.

    2) it makes a very powerful political point about who is actually oppressing whom; the people happy to walk away and go about their own business can not actually be the oppressors; (despite minoritarian propaganda)

    3) it--once people think about it--reveals who is actually parasitic upon whom; this reality will make our minoritarian bully boys very hostile to separation, but it also has the power to "rip back the curtain" and wake up white people

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @Jamie_NYC, @Ben tillman, @Nicholas Stix

    Intelligent comment, but I will point this out: the strategy works against an opponent who is ready to engage in good faith. Assuming this is a costly delusion, and a major reason why the current score is what it is. I would bet that talk of separation would be met with invocation of the civil war, which brings to mind… what else… racism. So, it won’t work.

  113. This is not a drill.

    • Agree: J.Ross, El Dato
  114. @Anonymous
    Dream on...

    https://youtu.be/KsWmfljeIq0

    Replies: @Citizen of a Silly Country

    Isn’t it pretty to think so.

    – Hemingway

  115. They are doing a thing. They’re framing those people and letting them rot in jail. Scales from the eyes time people.

    • Thanks: sayless
  116. @Art Deco
    @Desiderius

    Lind's a blockhead. The principal villain was the patriarch of a lumpen family who lived at the town dump, not an ordinary farming family or a wage-earning family. Lee was also assiduous about portraying her characters from different angles if they appeared in more than one scene. The characters Lee skewered without qualification were the missionary society lady Mrs. Merriwether and the narrator's 2d cousin.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Paperback Writer

    Did you actually read the freakin’ review?

    Here it is, for those of us who actually DO read the source material:

    https://www.thesmartset.com/article02161501/

    Lind’s point, which you evidently missed, is that Lee demonized a poor white family in a way that utterly removed it from consideration as great literature.

    Great literature seeks to illuminate. In Tess, the master Thomas Hardy is capable of more insight in a few brushstrokes than a thousand pages of Lee’s middle-brow tripe. (See: Car Darch, a minor character, and of course the feckless Durbeyfield parents.)

    And he wasn’t just referring to Lee. It was a whole passel of 20th Century Southern writers. But then you’d have seen that if you’d read the article.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Paperback Writer

    Lind’s point, which you evidently missed, is that Lee demonized a poor white family in a way that utterly removed it from consideration as great literature.

    They weren't a generic 'poor white family'. The father was a drunk who lived on relief checks and told his children to not bother attending school. The oldest daughter was not demonized. The notion that her portrait of the Ewell family 'utterly removed it from consideration' is bloody silly.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  117. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Art Deco

    Art, no disrespect here, but just where do you live in which every government office of ANY kind is not chock full of black people, mostly women? You gave out numbers before, but the point is that a large portion of the black middle class work for the taxpayers. I don't know how much of the black population would be considered middle class. You didn't give this number with your others.

    BTW, some of the black men working for the city and the country are doing actual hard work - say the hauling off of the leaves, branches, etc., hauling garbage (a WHOLE lot easier though, now), and working on sidewalks, culverts, etc. Of course, I respect this work. As Peak Stupidity discussed in "Idle Hands are the Devil's Workshop", black guys especially seem to be most prone to getting in trouble when they don't have any real work to do.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Art, no disrespect here, but just where do you live in which every government office of ANY kind is not chock full of black people, mostly women?

    I’ve lived in three different cities and in small towns as well. Blacks constitute about 12% of the working population so will be found in noticeable numbers lots of places. As we speak, about 18% of all federal civilian employees are black. The same applies to active-duty military.

    Discrete occupations where (1) blacks are abnormally common and (2) public employment is common are as follows:

    Postal clerks (38.4%)
    Bus drivers (37%)
    Jail and prison guards (32.9%)
    Postal mail sorters &c (31.1%)
    Jail and prison guards, supervisory (30.6%)
    Community and social service employees, NOS (30.4%)
    Garbage collectors (27.9%)
    Probation officers (26.9%)
    Social workers, child-family-school (26.8%)
    Social workers, NOS (25.7%)
    Drug counselors (25.4%)
    Court, municipal, and license clerks (23.1%)
    Bus drivers, school (21.5%)
    Eligibility interviewers (20.7%)
    Guidance counselors (19%)
    Social and human service assistants (18.9%)
    Letter carriers (18.7%)
    Locomotive engineers (18.6%)
    Social and community service managers (18.3%)
    Judges, magistrates &c (16.1%)
    Coaches and scouts (14.7%)
    Tax examiners, collectors &c (14.5%)
    Education and childcare administrators (14.3%)
    Budget analysts (13.9%)
    Detectives and criminal investigators (13.9%)
    Teaching assistants (13.6%)

    About 4.3% of the working population is found in these occupations. About 20% of those employed in these occupations are black. There are 1.28 million blacks employed in these occupations, accounting for 7% of the population of working blacks.

    • Replies: @Abolish_public_education
    @Art Deco

    I am so sick and tired of college educated whites who tax leech.

    Think of those who "work" in the defense industry, on public school or college campuses (or under government research grants), on government civilian contracts, as other incarnations of government bureaucrats, and so forth.

    Whatever the number of leeches, they compete for housing, and other necessities, against honest, low skilled, hard working folks who work productive (often multiple) jobs at coffee shops, fast-food joints, etc. and pay sales and employment taxes.

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Art Deco

    OK, Art, with a little less respeck this time, cause I remember telling you this 3 years ago or so: Art, you tend to pull numbers off the internet, not always having the background to know whether they are completely meaningless or not. One thing, if you have been around a bit, is you think D.I.M.S., or Does It Make Sense?

    There is no way these occupations add up to 4.3% of the jobs held by Americans! People in education alone are more than that proportion. Your numbers DO NOT MAKE SENSE. Go to the site of the US Gov't BLS* and this page. Just in "Educational Services" alone there are 13.7 million people, of which 11.6% are black.** OK, we're at 1.6 million already!

    Look at post office employees. You've got 622,000 of them, with just under 1/4 being black. I can do that in my head - that's another 155,000. Look at the specific category of "Bus Service and Urban Transit" - I expected about 0.03% white, haha, but no, the proportion of black employees is right at 1/3 of 389,000. Also in my head, ~ 130,000. Here's the biggie that is by definition government, "Public administration" - you've got 17.5% of 7.5 million - another 1.3 million there Art.

    "Social Assistance"? There may be some charity employees in there, but I'd guess most is government supported. Oops, that's 19.9% of 3.14 million - 624,000, but, sure 1/2 of them could be working privately, as the childcare category is a significant chunk.

    Pretty soon, it adds to real money... for us taxpayers who don't ride the bus, don't like the public schools, HATE, HATE, HATE going into any government offices, and OK, I like the Post Office, and when the other mailman doesn't sub in and deliver the previous house's mail to the next one for the whole block, I like my regular Oriental mailman a lot.

    We're up to around 4 million black government employees at decent-paying jobs already without plenty of people that don't seem to fit under the categories I already mentioned.

    The "Public Administration" does not include those guys taking the trash and doing maintenance on the trees, sewers, and roads (as you included, but I didn't - for the roads, it's probably under "Services incidental to transportation".) I just got these guys to help me out with some work. Great guys! One white supervisor and 2 or 3 black guys operation small heavy machinery. The white guy did his share to help too.

    So my point stands, but you just wasted nearly an hour of my time. That's annoying, Art. Can you trust that people have some common sense and maybe not trust numbers just pulled off the internet without a lot of thinking about them?

    .


    * I know better than to trust them on inflation numbers (there are some creative green eyeshade whit boys over there), but I guess I'll give 'em credit for using a dBase to count occupations accurately.

    ** The BLS does not seem to want to break out taxpayer-supported vs. others, but most of them, especially the black employees, are going to be in public education.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  118. @Desiderius
    @anonymous

    https://twitter.com/YungSpengler/status/1417651699259428866?s=20

    This is not a drill.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Ben tillman, @Ralph L, @MEH 0910

    What is the GAE?

  119. >surely someone will save us
    Well, no, there’s a lot wrong —
    >and that someone is the Supreme Court
    … okay … my general expectation is that you ought not to put any money on this …

  120. Anonymous[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    But blacks are not evenly distributed. Not a lot of black public sector workers in Idaho. But you go to DC and 97% of the transit drivers are black. Even some arms of the Federal gov. bureaucracy in DC (e.g. staff of the Dept. of Education) are very heavily black.

    And 30% greater propensity is by itself a significant #. It reflects that the governments thumb on the scale in favor of blacks is most present in government employment itself. And once blacks capture an agency, the discrimination against whites becomes intolerably high. In the DC transit system, whites are seen as a threat by their dumber, more corrupt colleagues and the bureaucracy does everything it can to squeeze them out. At this point, any white with brains doesn't even bother trying. If the DC transit system workforce was 97% white this would be seen as intolerable but since it's 97% black this is okey-dokey. Blacks can't be racist by definition.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/26/metro-derailed-by-culture-of-complacence-incompete/

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jim Don Bob

    some arms of the Federal gov. bureaucracy in DC (e.g. staff of the Dept. of Education) are very heavily black.

    Agree. If you go to the massive Dept. of Agriculture building in D.C. or the massive Dept. of Ag campus in Greenbelt she will see a clear majority of obese black women and a parking lot full of late-model Mercedes and Lexuses. Same thing at Dept. of Homeland Security, FEMA, Dept. of Energy, HUD, HHS, OPM, et al., in D.C. The only white males you see are either flamboyantly gay or nerdy (tech guy or scientist if at Energy) or middle-age rednecky guys with U.S. Army or Air Force lanyards.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Anonymous

    If the Federal Government (AKA USG) were to be shrunk by a mere 10%, it would have catastrophic consequences for the black community.

    FY 1950:

    https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/library/public-papers/8/annual-budget-message-congress-fiscal-year-1950



    To support this program, the Budget provides for expenditures of 41.9 billion dollars for the fiscal year 1950, about 1.7 billion dollars above the requirements for the present year. Under existing law and with continuing high levels of economic activity, revenues for the fiscal year would be 41 billion dollars. This would result in an estimated deficit of 873 million dollars.

    In a period of high prosperity it is not sound public policy for the Government to operate at a deficit.

     

    2021:

    https://www.cbo.gov/topics/budget

    BUDGET PROJECTIONS FOR FY 2021
    (As of July 1, 2021 )

    OUTLAYS

    $6.8 Trillion

    REVENUES

    $3.8 Trillion

    DEFICIT

    $3.0 Trillion

    DEBT HELD BY THE PUBLIC (End of Fiscal Year) $23.0 Trillion

     

  121. @anon
    @anonymous

    I don’t see how CRT is going to destroy the US.

    Then you should read more. Start with Kendi's version of anti-racism. Add in reparations. Then active discrimination against white men, even more than we see today.

    Declaring 13% of the population as some kind of nobility won't work out well. The white working class people will be further ground down into a state of "nothing left to lose". Does that appeal to you?


    tl;dr
    CRT >>> "Crow Jim".

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    And the category “white working class people” includes doctors, scientists, engineers, etc.

  122. @AnotherDad

    In his 2020 book Age of Entitlement, Christopher Caldwell argues:

    The changes of the 1960s, with civil rights at their core, were not just a major new element in the Constitution. They were a rival constitution, with which the original one was frequently incompatible…
     
    That’s true, but…here’s the thing: Technically, the Constitution hasn’t been abrogated
     
    "Technically" sure. But there's a whole body of case law. And ethnic, political, career and financial interests behind the rival constitution. It has power behind it. The Constitution--the original--does not.

    Judges should enunciate that arguments over whether one is punching down (bad) or punching up (good) are irrelevant. Punching is against the law.
     
    But this is the core of it.

    Since the rise of the Jews in the 1960s, they have--very, very successfully--propagandized the minoritarian narrative--minorities oppressed, virtuous; majorities oppressive, evil.

    That majorities do not have rights--most obviously freedom of association--but also that minorities are the standard of value for judging the fairness, virtue and legality of ... well, everything, but certainly laws is absolutely sacrosanct.

    The minoritarian transformation has been incredibly successful. Minoritarianism is the religion/religious-justification for the super-state political party--old concerns about class and the working man kicked to the curb--ergo the religion of the state establishment. And there are some financial interests as well, and a lot of "iron rice bowls"--comfy sinecures--involved. But most impressively minoritarian propaganda--along with some economic/class interests--managed to cleave huge numbers of overclass/virtue-signalling white gentiles, making them essentially fellow travelers. (Basically camp kapos complicit in their own genocide.)

    The Supreme Court giving some minor pushback on direct government anti-white cheating--where it's not sanctioned by law--is possible. I'm thinking about stuff like say Biden's illegal racial farm subsidies.

    But the idea that the Supremes are going to step up to the plate and overthrow this massive super-structure of minoritarianism--this rival constitution--that the minoritarians put in place over the last 60 years, cemented in place by uncountable reams and reels of propaganda ... not going to happen. We'll have blood in the streets before that would go down.

    No the future is not going to be pretty.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @J.Ross, @Almost Missouri, @kneelin' joey b, @Prof. Woland, @Ian Smith

    Agree and: who is acting here? Blacks are victims of manipulation and agitation. Not even Kendi is coming up with this stuff. Our enemy here overlaps with the people we would be depending upon in the event of any kind of effort involving the legal conspiracy. The real law is what the Constitution-hating law school graduates who invented Normalized Overt Hate of Whites in the first place. Hugh Hewitt (whom I trust on all legal procedural and educational claims) alleges that Critical Race Theory is actually Critical Law Theory, which arose in law schools in the 70s and was laughed away at the time. You can pass any law you want but the real law is what law school graduates [who want us to die] agree among themselves it is.

  123. If the Supreme Court enforces the civil rights of white people, the country will be held together peacefully.

    If I grow wings, I can fly.

    CivNats are impossible to deal with.

    • Replies: @SimplePseudonymicHandle
    @Federalist

    I like your pseudonym - in there lies the answer - and I agree with the first two points.

    The 3rd on CivNats requires some explanation.

    Otherwise though: yes.
    Sometimes - to the degree the "other side" is thinking about this at all, they are basically passing the buck and praying someone else will take the heat. It's the same thing going on as Manchin and Sinema on the filibuster. We are to understand a majority of Democratic senators want to be rid of the filibuster? No - they are hiding comfortably behind Manchin and Sinema.

    Killing Kendiism? - Politically impossible in the Democratic party - privately they say "thanks" for a conservative majority SCOTUS.

  124. Even if the SC decides this, it won’t last long as demographics will soon dictate that only far-left Dems will be elected president. Only far-left Dems will appoint SC justices.

    Separation is the only thing that can protect middle class whites from the coming “kulakization” by the Dems.

    We need to support politicians who will at least start to hint at Separation, such as Allen West, who said: “Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the Constitution.” It’s a hint, but at least it’s a start.

    West is running for Governor of Texas.

  125. @AnotherDad

    Keep in mind that there is no way to divide the U.S. up geographically that will cure what ails us.
     
    There isn't any clear immediate geographic separation that works.

    But that isn't critical. There are schemes to achieve political separation--to get us out of each other's hair that are possible. (I've got one. I'm sure other folks have others.) And those could lead to geographic separation eventually.

    But more on point, i am certain that talking about separation--raising the issue--is critical.

    Separation does three things--which are really one thing:

    1) it makes the point that the shit the minoritarians are doing is really abusive--nation breaking; if you're going to get 'em to stop without separation they have to realize this.

    2) it makes a very powerful political point about who is actually oppressing whom; the people happy to walk away and go about their own business can not actually be the oppressors; (despite minoritarian propaganda)

    3) it--once people think about it--reveals who is actually parasitic upon whom; this reality will make our minoritarian bully boys very hostile to separation, but it also has the power to "rip back the curtain" and wake up white people

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @Jamie_NYC, @Ben tillman, @Nicholas Stix

    I agree, but the bad guys clearly have a response to point no. 2:

    We are criminals trying to escape justice.

  126. @AnotherDad

    In his 2020 book Age of Entitlement, Christopher Caldwell argues:

    The changes of the 1960s, with civil rights at their core, were not just a major new element in the Constitution. They were a rival constitution, with which the original one was frequently incompatible…
     
    That’s true, but…here’s the thing: Technically, the Constitution hasn’t been abrogated
     
    "Technically" sure. But there's a whole body of case law. And ethnic, political, career and financial interests behind the rival constitution. It has power behind it. The Constitution--the original--does not.

    Judges should enunciate that arguments over whether one is punching down (bad) or punching up (good) are irrelevant. Punching is against the law.
     
    But this is the core of it.

    Since the rise of the Jews in the 1960s, they have--very, very successfully--propagandized the minoritarian narrative--minorities oppressed, virtuous; majorities oppressive, evil.

    That majorities do not have rights--most obviously freedom of association--but also that minorities are the standard of value for judging the fairness, virtue and legality of ... well, everything, but certainly laws is absolutely sacrosanct.

    The minoritarian transformation has been incredibly successful. Minoritarianism is the religion/religious-justification for the super-state political party--old concerns about class and the working man kicked to the curb--ergo the religion of the state establishment. And there are some financial interests as well, and a lot of "iron rice bowls"--comfy sinecures--involved. But most impressively minoritarian propaganda--along with some economic/class interests--managed to cleave huge numbers of overclass/virtue-signalling white gentiles, making them essentially fellow travelers. (Basically camp kapos complicit in their own genocide.)

    The Supreme Court giving some minor pushback on direct government anti-white cheating--where it's not sanctioned by law--is possible. I'm thinking about stuff like say Biden's illegal racial farm subsidies.

    But the idea that the Supremes are going to step up to the plate and overthrow this massive super-structure of minoritarianism--this rival constitution--that the minoritarians put in place over the last 60 years, cemented in place by uncountable reams and reels of propaganda ... not going to happen. We'll have blood in the streets before that would go down.

    No the future is not going to be pretty.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @J.Ross, @Almost Missouri, @kneelin' joey b, @Prof. Woland, @Ian Smith

    I agreed. But it’s still worth a shot. After all, if not the actual Constitution, what else are the Supremes gonna waste everyone’s time on? Maternity leave for trans “women”?

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  127. Anonymous[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @AndrewR
    Don't expect Amy "I cried with my black children when St George of Minneapolis was murdered" to help us. Clarence Thomas is the only one who could be counted on.

    Replies: @Barnard, @Anonymous

    didn’t Clarence Thomas call the “supreme court “a bunch of cowards during the 2020 elections ?

    and didn’t the supreme court worried about the 2020 elections and why they stop the trump lawyers because they were worried about a civil war coming out of it…….

  128. I work for a big company, and affirmative action has now spread from blacks to East Asians, South Asians, Arabs, Hispanics (often completely white), and women in the name of “diversity.” What happens when everyone but white males gets a leg up? Do young white males put up with this forever?

  129. The Constitution is well written. Any English speaking person of average intelligence can read it and know what it says. But only nine people of all the people on Earth can know what it means. There should never have been a Supreme Court. Questions regarding the Constitutionality of legislation should be decided by a jury. The jury would render simply yes or no. No body of case law would be created. The next case would again begin with the original document. The Constitution should be amended, should the need arrise, by elected representatives of the people.

    • Agree: scrivener3
  130. @AnotherDad

    In his 2020 book Age of Entitlement, Christopher Caldwell argues:

    The changes of the 1960s, with civil rights at their core, were not just a major new element in the Constitution. They were a rival constitution, with which the original one was frequently incompatible…
     
    That’s true, but…here’s the thing: Technically, the Constitution hasn’t been abrogated
     
    "Technically" sure. But there's a whole body of case law. And ethnic, political, career and financial interests behind the rival constitution. It has power behind it. The Constitution--the original--does not.

    Judges should enunciate that arguments over whether one is punching down (bad) or punching up (good) are irrelevant. Punching is against the law.
     
    But this is the core of it.

    Since the rise of the Jews in the 1960s, they have--very, very successfully--propagandized the minoritarian narrative--minorities oppressed, virtuous; majorities oppressive, evil.

    That majorities do not have rights--most obviously freedom of association--but also that minorities are the standard of value for judging the fairness, virtue and legality of ... well, everything, but certainly laws is absolutely sacrosanct.

    The minoritarian transformation has been incredibly successful. Minoritarianism is the religion/religious-justification for the super-state political party--old concerns about class and the working man kicked to the curb--ergo the religion of the state establishment. And there are some financial interests as well, and a lot of "iron rice bowls"--comfy sinecures--involved. But most impressively minoritarian propaganda--along with some economic/class interests--managed to cleave huge numbers of overclass/virtue-signalling white gentiles, making them essentially fellow travelers. (Basically camp kapos complicit in their own genocide.)

    The Supreme Court giving some minor pushback on direct government anti-white cheating--where it's not sanctioned by law--is possible. I'm thinking about stuff like say Biden's illegal racial farm subsidies.

    But the idea that the Supremes are going to step up to the plate and overthrow this massive super-structure of minoritarianism--this rival constitution--that the minoritarians put in place over the last 60 years, cemented in place by uncountable reams and reels of propaganda ... not going to happen. We'll have blood in the streets before that would go down.

    No the future is not going to be pretty.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @J.Ross, @Almost Missouri, @kneelin' joey b, @Prof. Woland, @Ian Smith

    i cant believe it took 31 comments for someone to point out the source…

  131. @theo the kraut
    OT: in a video, a German firefighter tells of 50 trucks and 300 men sent from a neighbouring German land to Euskirchen, North Rhine-Westphalia, to help with the recent #flood2021, when they arrived, people did applaud, as he says, the town looked like a war zone. As they didn't get an assignment from the local authorities they spend several days mostly doing nothing. Germany, too, is becoming a Potemkin village.

    https://www.facebook.com/peggy.nubla/posts/10219329755305526

    Replies: @theo the kraut, @Reg Cæsar

    Euskirchen, North Rhine-Westphalia

    I passed through that village one night. Someone was playing records from a second-story room. Perhaps a small party or record hop. The songs all had one thing in common– they were hit singles in the US exactly 15 summers earlier.

    Someone was an exchange student.

  132. Racial equality circa Dec. 1, 1967. The Black soldier depicted, Lewis Larry, had a daughter in elementary school in Chicago. Note the M16E1 rifles and XM-148 Colt grenade launcher.

  133. @anonymous
    I don't see how CRT is going to destroy the US. What scenarios are you thinking will play out? In what timeline?

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don't have a middle class to guide them.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Wade Hampton, @International Jew, @Art Deco, @Some Guy, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones, @Mr. Rational, @Jack D, @bomag, @Currahee, @CapitalistRoader

    “a middle class to guide them” The black middle class is composed entirely of govt. employees. They are just fine with the present state of affairs now that CRT is official govt. policy.

  134. I have done my bit for Steve and country. I don’t know if my post will even appear on Google searches, but I hope it will keep this conversation going.

    https://declineandfall.blog/2021/07/21/do-whites-have-civil-rights/

  135. @Desiderius
    @Jack D

    Of course there is. Analysis and Synthesis never stops. One of the things new generations are for.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Jack D:

    There is no middle ground.

    Desiderius:

    Of course there is. Analysis and Synthesis never stops. One of the things new generations are for.

    Maybe, but Jack has a point. Beyond tearing down statues, other features of recent European history, i.e. the outright genocide of millions, may soon become a feature of recent American history. With enough will, it’s always possible to wipe out the other side’s “new generations”. Your “middle ground” will be a literal coast-to-coast battlefield.

    Thesis, Antithesis, Nemesis.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I hope (and pray) that you are wrong about this. The experience in Africa, the Caribbean, etc. has been (1) whites giving up power in the face of black numerical superiority and (2) victorious blacks NOT engaging in genocide of white. Sure there is lots of crime in which individual whites may be killed and the government may try to make whites miserable enough to leave (seize their property, etc.) , but there is no mass extermination of whites. For a while at least, whites are kept around (albeit as 2nd class citizens) because blacks realize that they need their skills to a certain extent. I think this is the most likely scenario for the US.

    Conversely, the idea that whites will one day wake up and take back power even though they are a declining minority is a fantasy - I don't think that's going to happen. It's just going to be a steady drip drip erosion of white control and the smooth functioning of society. There is a lot of ruin in a nation (see for example Venezuela) so that even after the power grid, etc. fails people will just put up with it in the face of a powerful government. At some point, we will join Russia as a former superpower and become Brasil do Norte, maybe even socialist. The Latino underclass seems to like socialism and demagogic leaders.

    Gradual decline is not as much of a dramatic fun fantasy as an apocalyptic war for control with lots of explosions and a New Order (hopefully your side) emerging triumphant and victorious, but I think it is the more realistic scenario. It's going to be more like the Fall of Rome than the Fall of Berlin.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Nicholas Stix

    , @El Dato
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Also, "synthesis" does not necessarily mean "middle ground". It can mean "one of the several extremes".

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @Anonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Keep in mind that under international law, genocide does not require violence as such.

  136. In my opinion, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was designed to trick people into giving up their Constitutional Rights for Civil Rights, a lesser position than having full Civil Rights.

  137. The bottom line, the harsh reality, is that the Jews have weaponized Blacks, Perverts, Deviants, Amerindians, Latin Mestizos and Mulattoes and other inferior races against Whites. We are now living under a Soviet-style tyranny in which the enforced religion is that of Negro Worship.
    The current ruling Jewish governing elite in White countries has imposed a religion in which the ugliest, stupidest, most unintelligent, most impulsively violent, most sociopathic, savage, most parasitic race must be celebrated as brave, beautiful promethean heroes who will save Whites from themselves.
    Whites only became susceptible to this satanic evil after the two World Wars of White Suicide. We were vulnerable. We had lost a couple of generations of our finest young men. We were appalled at what we had done. The Jews stepped in as the ambulance-chasing false victims that they were and are.
    That is why there is such a weak push-back against the evil of Wokeness. Whites are afraid of their own capacity for destruction. As a result we’ve allowed our religion and our civilization to be destroyed by the Jews and their other nonWhite allies.
    The details don’t matter. All that matters is for Whites to see who are their enemies. Who has declared war on Whites? We have a right to our countries that we founded and built. Every square inch of them.
    The only solution to Woke Culture is mass deportation of ALL of the enemies of Whites. And let’s remember that Jews are not Whites. They are the self-declared enemies of Whites.
    It might not seem that the solution of mass deportation is possible right now, but things can move very, very fast under the right circumstances. For instance, who would have predicted the collapse of the Soviet Union even a couple of years before it happened?
    In any event, mass expulsion of nonWhites from historically White countries; Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, U.S., Canada, etc. is the ONLY solution. Whites are already in a war for their very existence. At some point there will be a massive awakening among Whites that this is a stark, brutal reality.

  138. @AnotherDad

    In his 2020 book Age of Entitlement, Christopher Caldwell argues:

    The changes of the 1960s, with civil rights at their core, were not just a major new element in the Constitution. They were a rival constitution, with which the original one was frequently incompatible…
     
    That’s true, but…here’s the thing: Technically, the Constitution hasn’t been abrogated
     
    "Technically" sure. But there's a whole body of case law. And ethnic, political, career and financial interests behind the rival constitution. It has power behind it. The Constitution--the original--does not.

    Judges should enunciate that arguments over whether one is punching down (bad) or punching up (good) are irrelevant. Punching is against the law.
     
    But this is the core of it.

    Since the rise of the Jews in the 1960s, they have--very, very successfully--propagandized the minoritarian narrative--minorities oppressed, virtuous; majorities oppressive, evil.

    That majorities do not have rights--most obviously freedom of association--but also that minorities are the standard of value for judging the fairness, virtue and legality of ... well, everything, but certainly laws is absolutely sacrosanct.

    The minoritarian transformation has been incredibly successful. Minoritarianism is the religion/religious-justification for the super-state political party--old concerns about class and the working man kicked to the curb--ergo the religion of the state establishment. And there are some financial interests as well, and a lot of "iron rice bowls"--comfy sinecures--involved. But most impressively minoritarian propaganda--along with some economic/class interests--managed to cleave huge numbers of overclass/virtue-signalling white gentiles, making them essentially fellow travelers. (Basically camp kapos complicit in their own genocide.)

    The Supreme Court giving some minor pushback on direct government anti-white cheating--where it's not sanctioned by law--is possible. I'm thinking about stuff like say Biden's illegal racial farm subsidies.

    But the idea that the Supremes are going to step up to the plate and overthrow this massive super-structure of minoritarianism--this rival constitution--that the minoritarians put in place over the last 60 years, cemented in place by uncountable reams and reels of propaganda ... not going to happen. We'll have blood in the streets before that would go down.

    No the future is not going to be pretty.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @J.Ross, @Almost Missouri, @kneelin' joey b, @Prof. Woland, @Ian Smith

    Now that it is becoming provably apparent that the 2020 election was stolen, I would like to see a constitutional amendment to insure voting rights for all Americans, not just the black ones that live in former Confederate States of America. Clearly a massive number of citizens were discriminated against, most of them white. There clearly needs to be something that forcibly brings up to date, protections from cheating, including the advances (or set backs) from the impacts of computers.
    By making it an amendment, it will punctuate what occurred and make it far more difficult in the future to thwart the majority will.

  139. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Déjà vu poast (h/t MEH 0910) :

    https://twitter.com/Sifill_LDF/status/1352080180874006530

    For purposes of this order: (a) The term “equity” means the consistent and systematic fair, just, and impartial treatment of all individuals [emphasis added]
     
    Oooops. Achilles heel right there. Sounds like a restatement of the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    Where the dipshits get it wrong is the use of the word treatment.
    If the goal is equal outcome you cannot have equal treatment.

  140. It isn’t something we should try to do to “peacefully” hold the country together. Civilization is based on the ability to bring to bear organized violence. Any civilization that loses the ability to violently defend itself is doomed. White civilization is now threatened with finally being destroyed. The ONLY thing that will save it is by violently defending itself. Trying to “peacefully” hold the U.S. together will only be by cowardice and treason against the the Whites who built the country and modern civilization. Holding the country together “peacefully” will only result in the the end of civilization.
    The ONLY solution to Woke, third-world Culture is mass deportation of ALL of the enemies of Whites. And let’s remember that Jews are not Whites. They are the self-declared enemies of Whites.It might not seem that the solution of mass deportation is possible right now, but things can move very, very fast under the right circumstances. For instance, who would have predicted the collapse of the Soviet Union even a couple of years before it happened?
    In any event, mass expulsion of nonWhites from historically White countries; Europe, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, U.S., Canada, etc. is the ONLY solution. Whites are already in a war for their very existence. At some point there will be a massive awakening among Whites that this is a stark, brutal reality.

  141. @Achmed E. Newman
    It was another good Taki column, Steve. Obviously, to me anyway, none of this will ever happen. It is very apparent that these black-robed wonders, aside from a couple (one who had no autopsy), are compromised by those that WANT to destroy this country.

    More generally, how could the US ever get back to adhering to the Constitution as the Law of the Land again, as the 60 years of violation of it have created the Beast of a Feral government that won't be rolled back by a couple of SC decisions? This Feral government is deeply entrenched, with half the population having a vested interest in keeping it that way. Amendment X would have to be upheld first, and that ain't likely - it took a war the first time. (BTW, Peak Stupidity just concluded our "Peak Constitutional Amendment" series by stating that, by a good margin, the 17 Amendments proposed and ratified after the 10 in the Bill of Rights, were bad for the Republic and that Article V was a big screw up by the Founders.)

    I am glad to see that you have finally come out categorically against AA, at least for the future, not the past (as if 60 years of career-destruction, reduced affordable family formation, and underemployment for White people was just A-OK with you ... and Ann Coulter - you were in good company there.)

    Finally, I'll post this link to that the Christopher Caldwell book, The Age of Entitlement, again. Most of you all won't like chapters 2 and 3. Caldwell really wussed out, when it came down to it. Well, ya' first gotta get the thing published, I guess ...

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I am glad to see that you have finally come out categorically against AA, at least for the future, not the past

    Hearty agree there, AEN! Steve’s willingness to tolerate ‘affirmative action’ or some sort of ‘reparations’ for Blacks and American Indians was a rare glaring conceptual error on his part. Two points of failure:

    1. Is it Constitutional? No.
    2. Do they deserve it? No.

    Whites eventually allowed the above groups to participate, with equal legal status with Whites, in American society. They were lucky to get that.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Steve’s willingness to tolerate ‘affirmative action’ or some sort of ‘reparations’ for Blacks and American Indians was a rare glaring conceptual error on his part.
     
    Racial quotas in the name of civic representation is a more defensible position than racial quotas in the name of “reparations.”
  142. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/Peter_Nimitz/status/1417708592480735232?s=20

    Replies: @Goddard, @SunBakedSuburb, @Corvinus

    Nightmarish futures can avoided – their memories laughed at as the past absurdities of paranoiacs by succeeding generations who were saved from them.

    The entire mood of this era could turn on a dime. That’s because it is built on a mountain of lies and absurdities. Unfortunately for us here in the United States, the shock that causes the edifice of lies to collapse will likely be negative.

  143. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I am glad to see that you have finally come out categorically against AA, at least for the future, not the past
     
    Hearty agree there, AEN! Steve’s willingness to tolerate ‘affirmative action’ or some sort of ‘reparations’ for Blacks and American Indians was a rare glaring conceptual error on his part. Two points of failure:

    1. Is it Constitutional? No.
    2. Do they deserve it? No.

    Whites eventually allowed the above groups to participate, with equal legal status with Whites, in American society. They were lucky to get that.

    Replies: @Anon

    Steve’s willingness to tolerate ‘affirmative action’ or some sort of ‘reparations’ for Blacks and American Indians was a rare glaring conceptual error on his part.

    Racial quotas in the name of civic representation is a more defensible position than racial quotas in the name of “reparations.”

  144. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Desiderius

    Jack D:


    There is no middle ground.
     
    Desiderius:

    Of course there is. Analysis and Synthesis never stops. One of the things new generations are for.
     
    Maybe, but Jack has a point. Beyond tearing down statues, other features of recent European history, i.e. the outright genocide of millions, may soon become a feature of recent American history. With enough will, it’s always possible to wipe out the other side’s “new generations”. Your “middle ground” will be a literal coast-to-coast battlefield.

    Thesis, Antithesis, Nemesis.

    Replies: @Jack D, @El Dato, @Anonymous

    I hope (and pray) that you are wrong about this. The experience in Africa, the Caribbean, etc. has been (1) whites giving up power in the face of black numerical superiority and (2) victorious blacks NOT engaging in genocide of white. Sure there is lots of crime in which individual whites may be killed and the government may try to make whites miserable enough to leave (seize their property, etc.) , but there is no mass extermination of whites. For a while at least, whites are kept around (albeit as 2nd class citizens) because blacks realize that they need their skills to a certain extent. I think this is the most likely scenario for the US.

    Conversely, the idea that whites will one day wake up and take back power even though they are a declining minority is a fantasy – I don’t think that’s going to happen. It’s just going to be a steady drip drip erosion of white control and the smooth functioning of society. There is a lot of ruin in a nation (see for example Venezuela) so that even after the power grid, etc. fails people will just put up with it in the face of a powerful government. At some point, we will join Russia as a former superpower and become Brasil do Norte, maybe even socialist. The Latino underclass seems to like socialism and demagogic leaders.

    Gradual decline is not as much of a dramatic fun fantasy as an apocalyptic war for control with lots of explosions and a New Order (hopefully your side) emerging triumphant and victorious, but I think it is the more realistic scenario. It’s going to be more like the Fall of Rome than the Fall of Berlin.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @Jack D

    Wrong on pretty much all levels
    First, the thirst for racial vengeance among blacks and GoodWhites is very strong. That cannot be called back.

    Second, White elites frozen out of moving up, or their kids even continuing their own status, or being fired, is a recipe for civil war. That's been true since Sargon of Akkad (the ruler not the blogger).

    Third, the US is too complex and dependent on White skills to function at all like South Africa or Brazil. Unlike those places, people here expect the power to be always on and the water clean and safe to drink. Just feeding people requires a lot of transport of grain, petroleum products, electricity, and so on. The Mississippi River transport system with barges for example totally depends on Whites. As does the Ohio, much of long-distance trucking, refineries, and the rail network. To name just a few.

    Firing Whites and replacing them with blacks means all that fails and starvation starts, because of the dependency on skilled labor. Its one thing to replace a few talented programmers with Indian H1-B code farms, for non-essential stuff, or working on fairly non-changing legacy IT systems. Its another to do that with systems that require skill and years of knowledge.

    Fourth, there has never been a system where Whites are the historic and founding majority of the country by a huge margin and now replaced by blacks as their ruling class (which also hates them, replaces their history, values, stories, and traditions with black substitutes that are hated). And that leaves out Latinos who aspire mostly to Whiteness and are repelled by black people in pretty much every way. See Sammy Sosa.

    Replace Old Glory with the fake and gay Pride Flag? Yes elites can ram that through, but can't make Whites love the flag. Or serve in the military. Replace the Star Spangled Banner with the Black national anthem: Baby Got Back by Sir Mixalot? Sure they can but they can't make Whites love it. If they replace the White officer corps with a black one, all that guarantees is a mutiny, military wide.

    Brazilian, Jamiacan, and South African Whites coped by emigrating: example Charlize Theron. There are too many to emigrate and no place to emigrate to anyway.

    TLDR: White flight becomes eventually White fight. Your skin color is your uniform.

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Jack D

    What about the Haitian Genocide?

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2018/02/it-aint-pretty-truth-about-haiti.html

    Replies: @Jack D

  145. Steve, that was a terrible column and boomer cope.

    The Supremes are likely to rule around 7-2 that not only do Whites NOT HAVE CIVIL RIGHTS, but that the Government MUST DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THEM. As a moral and constitutional matter.

    As far as the Constitution goes, you might as well wipe your ass with it. It has as much use as toilet paper. The 1964 Civil Rights Act is what matters, and it supersedes and abolishes the Constitution. White cannot have any rights at all in our society.

    What you neglect is that the moral, cultural, political, and social legitimacy of the ruling Elite and system is based on:

    1. Whites are genetically evil and must be punished over and over again for the sins of long dead White people, even if they are no relations.
    2. Blacks are the Holy Racial Redeemers of the Original Sin of Whiteness, and Holy beyond dispute, and the natural and Holy Ruling Class.

    The Supremes given these cultural, social, political, and above all MORAL beliefs cannot rule otherwise than Whites HAVE NO RIGHTS AND MUST BE CRUSHED.

    What the Supremes will rule is that not only can but the Government MUST discriminate against Whites. White kids must be told over and over again that they are evil and black people Holy. That they cannot advance themselves at all in life because they are genetically evil. That colleges and Universities MUST discriminate against Whites and take almost none in. That Whites MUST be fired from not just Government jobs but private sector jobs, and be replaced by blacks, or at worst, Latinos. And that the Government can and should put White people in re-education camps to erase their “Whiteness.”

    The top people, the Pelosis, the Clintons, the Bidens, the Schumers, will not be impacted by this at all nor will their kids/grandkids. They will come out just fine, exceptions like Merrick Garland’s daughter clerking for the Supremes will always be made for big shots. The lower elites, the Hedge Fund Managers, the FBI Agents, the Colonels and Majors in the Pentagon, the Marketing Director at P&G, they will find their kids will have no future just like the Sex Pistols promised.

    This guarantees conflict, as the elites will split among themselves. The Supremes MANDATING as they will CRT in schools and no Whites need apply to College is going to cause conflict. The Supremes will mandate it, if nothing else to avoid court packing. But also because they swim in ultra elite waters and that is what the ultra elites want: total and continual discrimination against Whites as genetically evil. Otherwise you’d never heard of Kendi.

    But Conflict was GUARANTEED from the moment Civil Rights appeared. There was never going to be enough elite positions to distribute to blacks without hurting eventually elite Whites who will push back particularly for their kids. If Felicity Huffman would go to great lengths to get her dumb daughter into USC, what will the above lower tier elites do for their kids? Will they sacrifice their kids for black ones? To ask is to answer it.

    So, no one should be wishcasting. Confict is upon us, guaranteed, it wll be long, ugly, brutal, degrading, and with many, many costs.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
    @Whiskey

    So what's your point?

  146. Let me understand this writer’s opinion: he honestly believes the black robes currently seated on the U.S. Supreme Court can be trusted?

    Case in point: Maxwell v. Dow, 176 U.S. 581 (1900):

    “The privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States do not necessarily include all the rights protected by the first eight amendments to the Federal Constitution against the powers of the Federal Government.”

    Do you honestly believe you can trust any black robes who would pen such an atrocious holding?

    Federal citizenship is a municipal franchise domiciled in D.C.; and, Congress expressly extended the ENTIRE U.S. Constitution into D.C. in 1871.

    That Extension Statute was also cited in Downes v. Bidwell:
    “… to put at rest all doubts regarding the applicability of the Constitution to the District of Columbia ….”

    Read Justice Harlan’s brilliant dissents instead: he got it right; the majority did NOT.

  147. @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I hope (and pray) that you are wrong about this. The experience in Africa, the Caribbean, etc. has been (1) whites giving up power in the face of black numerical superiority and (2) victorious blacks NOT engaging in genocide of white. Sure there is lots of crime in which individual whites may be killed and the government may try to make whites miserable enough to leave (seize their property, etc.) , but there is no mass extermination of whites. For a while at least, whites are kept around (albeit as 2nd class citizens) because blacks realize that they need their skills to a certain extent. I think this is the most likely scenario for the US.

    Conversely, the idea that whites will one day wake up and take back power even though they are a declining minority is a fantasy - I don't think that's going to happen. It's just going to be a steady drip drip erosion of white control and the smooth functioning of society. There is a lot of ruin in a nation (see for example Venezuela) so that even after the power grid, etc. fails people will just put up with it in the face of a powerful government. At some point, we will join Russia as a former superpower and become Brasil do Norte, maybe even socialist. The Latino underclass seems to like socialism and demagogic leaders.

    Gradual decline is not as much of a dramatic fun fantasy as an apocalyptic war for control with lots of explosions and a New Order (hopefully your side) emerging triumphant and victorious, but I think it is the more realistic scenario. It's going to be more like the Fall of Rome than the Fall of Berlin.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Nicholas Stix

    Wrong on pretty much all levels
    First, the thirst for racial vengeance among blacks and GoodWhites is very strong. That cannot be called back.

    Second, White elites frozen out of moving up, or their kids even continuing their own status, or being fired, is a recipe for civil war. That’s been true since Sargon of Akkad (the ruler not the blogger).

    Third, the US is too complex and dependent on White skills to function at all like South Africa or Brazil. Unlike those places, people here expect the power to be always on and the water clean and safe to drink. Just feeding people requires a lot of transport of grain, petroleum products, electricity, and so on. The Mississippi River transport system with barges for example totally depends on Whites. As does the Ohio, much of long-distance trucking, refineries, and the rail network. To name just a few.

    Firing Whites and replacing them with blacks means all that fails and starvation starts, because of the dependency on skilled labor. Its one thing to replace a few talented programmers with Indian H1-B code farms, for non-essential stuff, or working on fairly non-changing legacy IT systems. Its another to do that with systems that require skill and years of knowledge.

    Fourth, there has never been a system where Whites are the historic and founding majority of the country by a huge margin and now replaced by blacks as their ruling class (which also hates them, replaces their history, values, stories, and traditions with black substitutes that are hated). And that leaves out Latinos who aspire mostly to Whiteness and are repelled by black people in pretty much every way. See Sammy Sosa.

    Replace Old Glory with the fake and gay Pride Flag? Yes elites can ram that through, but can’t make Whites love the flag. Or serve in the military. Replace the Star Spangled Banner with the Black national anthem: Baby Got Back by Sir Mixalot? Sure they can but they can’t make Whites love it. If they replace the White officer corps with a black one, all that guarantees is a mutiny, military wide.

    Brazilian, Jamiacan, and South African Whites coped by emigrating: example Charlize Theron. There are too many to emigrate and no place to emigrate to anyway.

    TLDR: White flight becomes eventually White fight. Your skin color is your uniform.

  148. Anonymous[674] • Disclaimer says:
    @Abolish_public_education
    Awful. The lawyer-justices are part of the problem; and they always will be.

    Make the USG budget (no “off”) as small as possible; $75B per year sounds about right. Then, no matter how much suck is contained therein, it won’t affect 329.9M Americans.

    I believe that by getting the small government revolution started at the state level, e.g. a_p_e, we can embarrass Washington enough to get it to self-downsize.

    Replies: @Tono Bungay, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad

    Wasteful state and (in certain metros) county agencies are the cause of such an incompetent national government. It would just tee up arguments for cleaning out Albany or Sacramento or Lansing, so our national civil servants by design aren’t paid particularly well for the authority they’re supposed to hold and service they’re supposed to render. We’re not sending our best. At no branch of the tree is our bureaucracy operated for any purpose aside from buying votes.

    As much as leftists complain about breakaway cities incorporating, largely for racial reasons — see Los Angeles 60 years ago and Atlanta in this century — it’s really unlikely that jurisdictional loyalty is going to be a big popular cause on Tik Tok in the next decade. The present borders of the U.S. are just Cold War relics, not a Darwinian superpredator of country map shape.

  149. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Desiderius

    Jack D:


    There is no middle ground.
     
    Desiderius:

    Of course there is. Analysis and Synthesis never stops. One of the things new generations are for.
     
    Maybe, but Jack has a point. Beyond tearing down statues, other features of recent European history, i.e. the outright genocide of millions, may soon become a feature of recent American history. With enough will, it’s always possible to wipe out the other side’s “new generations”. Your “middle ground” will be a literal coast-to-coast battlefield.

    Thesis, Antithesis, Nemesis.

    Replies: @Jack D, @El Dato, @Anonymous

    Also, “synthesis” does not necessarily mean “middle ground”. It can mean “one of the several extremes”.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @El Dato

    Correct. The “gain of function” qualities of any given synthesis can be hard to predict.

  150. I see you haven’t lost your sense of humor.

    • Agree: R.G. Camara
  151. smh. Steve, what would ever make you believe that the Supreme Court would ever want or be noble enough or brave enough to do those things?

    You’re an eternal optimist, sir. But such delusions are folly given history. Arm up and protect your kin.

    • Agree: Kylie, Achmed E. Newman
  152. Funny, but when I search that string on DuckDuckGo, John Derbyshire’s Archive at unz.com comes up as number two hit returned, though it is not immediately clear why. Now that I’ve searched it twice, he is number one.

    You get no breaks, Steve.

    John Derbyshire Archive – The Unz Review
    Search domain unz.comhttps://www.unz.com/author/john-derbyshire/2021/?lang=en
    An Unasked Question: “Do Whites Have Civil Rights?” July 18, 2021 • 4 Comments. That Old Black Magic Has Got Me in Its Spell. July 18, 2021 • 8 Comments. Shooting Outside Washington Baseball Stadium Empties Stands. July 17, 2021 • 29 Comments. Zuma’s Bullyboys Declare War on “White Monopoly Capitalism”

  153. steve is doing his best to change the world by asking other people to do it for him.

    sad.

    when one side, government, has a monopoly on violence, it always wins.

    “(((sauron))) and his army of orcs and protestants are a majority that vote for the destruction of the minority and it’s all good because democracy.” — steve sailer

    matters have gone beyond legislation (and legislation from the bench) mein steve. can you stop being a pussy and deal with it, that partisans are always called “terrorists”.

    of course you can steve. that’s the whole purpose of your blog.

    you’re a mere tentacle of zion.

    • Troll: Corvinus
  154. @Art Deco
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Art, no disrespect here, but just where do you live in which every government office of ANY kind is not chock full of black people, mostly women?

    I've lived in three different cities and in small towns as well. Blacks constitute about 12% of the working population so will be found in noticeable numbers lots of places. As we speak, about 18% of all federal civilian employees are black. The same applies to active-duty military.

    Discrete occupations where (1) blacks are abnormally common and (2) public employment is common are as follows:

    Postal clerks (38.4%)
    Bus drivers (37%)
    Jail and prison guards (32.9%)
    Postal mail sorters &c (31.1%)
    Jail and prison guards, supervisory (30.6%)
    Community and social service employees, NOS (30.4%)
    Garbage collectors (27.9%)
    Probation officers (26.9%)
    Social workers, child-family-school (26.8%)
    Social workers, NOS (25.7%)
    Drug counselors (25.4%)
    Court, municipal, and license clerks (23.1%)
    Bus drivers, school (21.5%)
    Eligibility interviewers (20.7%)
    Guidance counselors (19%)
    Social and human service assistants (18.9%)
    Letter carriers (18.7%)
    Locomotive engineers (18.6%)
    Social and community service managers (18.3%)
    Judges, magistrates &c (16.1%)
    Coaches and scouts (14.7%)
    Tax examiners, collectors &c (14.5%)
    Education and childcare administrators (14.3%)
    Budget analysts (13.9%)
    Detectives and criminal investigators (13.9%)
    Teaching assistants (13.6%)


    About 4.3% of the working population is found in these occupations. About 20% of those employed in these occupations are black. There are 1.28 million blacks employed in these occupations, accounting for 7% of the population of working blacks.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education, @Achmed E. Newman

    I am so sick and tired of college educated whites who tax leech.

    Think of those who “work” in the defense industry, on public school or college campuses (or under government research grants), on government civilian contracts, as other incarnations of government bureaucrats, and so forth.

    Whatever the number of leeches, they compete for housing, and other necessities, against honest, low skilled, hard working folks who work productive (often multiple) jobs at coffee shops, fast-food joints, etc. and pay sales and employment taxes.

  155. @Desiderius
    @anonymous

    https://twitter.com/YungSpengler/status/1417651699259428866?s=20

    This is not a drill.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Ben tillman, @Ralph L, @MEH 0910

    Now there are some actual codewords!

    I’ve got no idea if they’re “racist.”

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Ralph L

    Of course they are.

    Also: "Robots have rights, too!"

    https://i.postimg.cc/fyNxwKww/Robots-Have-Rights-Too-from-Ghost-in-the-Shell-the-Original-Series.jpg

  156. @brabantian
    https://i.ibb.co/T0H1mss/Leonel-Torres-Herrera.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato, @Yancey Ward

    So what did he know about whom?

  157. @Jack D
    @anonymous


    Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don’t have a middle class to guide them.
     
    (Unlike the past) middle class blacks are not the role model for ghetto blacks already so it couldn't be any worse than it is now. The first thing a black does upon gaining middle class status is move as far from the ghetto as possible (of course they bring the ghetto with them with their unruly kids in the back seat, but never mind). And ghetto blacks don't aspire to be accountants and pharmacists - their role models are rappers and pro-athletes.

    Replies: @J1234

    And ghetto blacks don’t aspire to be accountants and pharmacists – their role models are rappers and pro-athletes.

    This is basically correct. Live-for-the-moment blacks are rarely going to be inspired or guided by plan-for-the-future blacks (or any other like minded people.) Radicalism provides them with a much more streamlined (and exciting) moral, logical and political framework, one that seems to better fit their temperament. Also, for much of flamboyant and showy black America, becoming just like everyone else with no special attributes (such as a historically unique victimhood) would mean leaving the center stage of society, and I don’t believe they could handle that emotionally.

    Anyway, the “plan-for-the-future” black middle class I mentioned is – to one degree or another – a myth created by utopianists (like anonymous) from a broad range of political perspectives for a broad range of reasons. It exists, but the black middle class is mostly a product of an affirmative action that de-emphasizes self improvement in favor of external improvement (I’m not to blame for my impoverished state, society is, so it should change, not me.)

  158. @Torn and Frayed
    Are blacks and affirmative action really the cause of white malaise? Have blacks grabbed cultural dominance and by applying intellectual and moral leadership are now liquidating or at least subjugating whites? If it is actually true that a group with an average IQ of 85 and are dividing and destroying whites while building and blossoming their own allied group alliances, well then I have to say this is Darwin's way of telling whites they are unworthy of surviving, at least in America.

    Perhaps blacks as the agent of white malaise is wrong. For whites I certainly hope so. Did blacks ship masses of mobile capital to China in order to build the factories that make the rope with which to hang white workers? Were Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand, the two ideologues most responsible for open borders, and libertarian-induced white malaise, really of African descent? Are blacks really the financial, media, and political hegemons? Again, if so, whitey deserves his evolutionary fate.

    No, luckily for whites, it is not blacks but hyperwhites who are the historical agents of white malaise. White resistance should aim upwards, and look for useful idiot allies downwards. Whites should learn to exaggerate black demands and to turn blacks against the hyperwhites at every turn. Affimative action, black privilege, etc, should not only be encouraged, it must be applied to hyperwhite institutions such as Wall Street and Hollywood. In fact the entire woke movement is increasingly pozzing centers of hyperwhite power. The clueless wokesters are doing more to undermine hyperwhite power than boomer badwhite system enhancing "resistance" is. It would be better for the Supreme Court to officially proclaim whites as an enemy class and then have badwhite / black resistance apply this to hyperwhite institutions. Hyperwhites haveunleashed this cancer, it is not the job of badwhites to self sacrifice as a form of chemotherapy. Let wokeness and the cultural Frankenstein's monster it spawns rip until it takes the hyperwhite institutional power down with it.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Yancey Ward, @Lurker, @Eric Novak

    I find a lot to agree with in your comment, Torn and Frayed, but here is the problem- the hyperwhite power structure won’t be building public housing projects in Brentwood, Greenwich, etal. They will be built in where conservatives live. Reparations won’t be paid out via a progressive tax on rich whites- they will be paid out via money printing which will simply devalue whatever financial assets the middle class white own. At best, what you propose might be the only thing that actually wakes the middle class up, but I predict by that point they will have been disarmed by the SCOTUS Steve Sailer is proposing to save us.

  159. to save America we need to address the pending demographic changes. Affirmative action will end when whites become a minority in twenty years time.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Travis

    "pending demographic changes"

    It might help if I step out of my bio-secure bubble and go out there and impregnate attractive young white women.

    , @guest007
    @Travis

    Affirmative action will not end any more than minority set aside contracting ended in Baltimore or Atlanta after the city government were controlled by blacks. For blacks, the special rules will become permanent. If reparations passes and approved by the courts, separate and unequal will become the law of the land.

  160. @anon
    @anonymous


    Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don’t have a middle class to guide them.
     
    Is there a class of educated blacks that is “guiding” that population? To the extent they are giving guidance, is it constructive?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    OneTwoSix, There are a good number of midsize to large US cities where the majority of the city government are blacks. Mayors, President of the City Council, DAs, Chiefs of Police, Fire Chief and very important, Superintendent of Schools, plus a large part of the public school administration and staff. What more will it take to make this disfunctional part of our country functional? Free education, free meals, subsidized housing and health care, monthly stipends, why would you need a black middle class? As an example of what you could be, or could have been if you tried?

  161. Yeah, and maybe later monkeys will fly out of my butt.

  162. @Paperback Writer
    @Art Deco

    Did you actually read the freakin' review?

    Here it is, for those of us who actually DO read the source material:

    https://www.thesmartset.com/article02161501/

    Lind's point, which you evidently missed, is that Lee demonized a poor white family in a way that utterly removed it from consideration as great literature.

    Great literature seeks to illuminate. In Tess, the master Thomas Hardy is capable of more insight in a few brushstrokes than a thousand pages of Lee's middle-brow tripe. (See: Car Darch, a minor character, and of course the feckless Durbeyfield parents.)

    And he wasn't just referring to Lee. It was a whole passel of 20th Century Southern writers. But then you'd have seen that if you'd read the article.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Lind’s point, which you evidently missed, is that Lee demonized a poor white family in a way that utterly removed it from consideration as great literature.

    They weren’t a generic ‘poor white family’. The father was a drunk who lived on relief checks and told his children to not bother attending school. The oldest daughter was not demonized. The notion that her portrait of the Ewell family ‘utterly removed it from consideration’ is bloody silly.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Art Deco

    Lind's point is that post WW2 20th C middle-grade fiction was mostly written by genteel whites, that their literature caricatured poor whites and held them responsible for Southern racism, when in reality the genteel whites (his relatives) were the ones truly responsible. (Something Lee wrote about more honestly in "Watchman," which lost Atticus Finch some of his more rabid fans.)

    Lind's essential point was that Jim Crow was a sop thrown to poor whites by the rich whites who controlled the system.

    You may agree or disagree with Lind - I do - but at least give the article a fair reading and base your dismissal on what he actually wrote, not what you imagine he wrote.

    I think he was wrong about the origins of Jim Crow. I do think he was quite right about the genteel Southern writer demonization of poor whites. Most of them (O'Connor excepted - she's sui generis) wanted to Make It Big up North, so obliged the Yankees. That's something Lind doesn't explore.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  163. @brabantian
    https://i.ibb.co/T0H1mss/Leonel-Torres-Herrera.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato, @Yancey Ward

    LOL! Herrara was guilty and got what the law demanded. Funny how he only learned about his brother doing the deed years after his brother was dead.

  164. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    But blacks are not evenly distributed. Not a lot of black public sector workers in Idaho. But you go to DC and 97% of the transit drivers are black. Even some arms of the Federal gov. bureaucracy in DC (e.g. staff of the Dept. of Education) are very heavily black.

    And 30% greater propensity is by itself a significant #. It reflects that the governments thumb on the scale in favor of blacks is most present in government employment itself. And once blacks capture an agency, the discrimination against whites becomes intolerably high. In the DC transit system, whites are seen as a threat by their dumber, more corrupt colleagues and the bureaucracy does everything it can to squeeze them out. At this point, any white with brains doesn't even bother trying. If the DC transit system workforce was 97% white this would be seen as intolerable but since it's 97% black this is okey-dokey. Blacks can't be racist by definition.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/26/metro-derailed-by-culture-of-complacence-incompete/

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jim Don Bob

    And 30% greater propensity is by itself a significant #. It reflects that the governments thumb on the scale in favor of blacks is most present in government employment itself. And once blacks capture an agency, the discrimination against whites becomes intolerably high.

    A Federal judge ruled that the Biden regime cannot pay black farmers disaster relief (or whatever) before white farmers. Does anyone seriously believe that this order will stop a woke bureaucracy from doing what it wants? When was that last time anybody in government got punished for anything?

    • Agree: sayless
  165. @Torn and Frayed
    Are blacks and affirmative action really the cause of white malaise? Have blacks grabbed cultural dominance and by applying intellectual and moral leadership are now liquidating or at least subjugating whites? If it is actually true that a group with an average IQ of 85 and are dividing and destroying whites while building and blossoming their own allied group alliances, well then I have to say this is Darwin's way of telling whites they are unworthy of surviving, at least in America.

    Perhaps blacks as the agent of white malaise is wrong. For whites I certainly hope so. Did blacks ship masses of mobile capital to China in order to build the factories that make the rope with which to hang white workers? Were Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand, the two ideologues most responsible for open borders, and libertarian-induced white malaise, really of African descent? Are blacks really the financial, media, and political hegemons? Again, if so, whitey deserves his evolutionary fate.

    No, luckily for whites, it is not blacks but hyperwhites who are the historical agents of white malaise. White resistance should aim upwards, and look for useful idiot allies downwards. Whites should learn to exaggerate black demands and to turn blacks against the hyperwhites at every turn. Affimative action, black privilege, etc, should not only be encouraged, it must be applied to hyperwhite institutions such as Wall Street and Hollywood. In fact the entire woke movement is increasingly pozzing centers of hyperwhite power. The clueless wokesters are doing more to undermine hyperwhite power than boomer badwhite system enhancing "resistance" is. It would be better for the Supreme Court to officially proclaim whites as an enemy class and then have badwhite / black resistance apply this to hyperwhite institutions. Hyperwhites haveunleashed this cancer, it is not the job of badwhites to self sacrifice as a form of chemotherapy. Let wokeness and the cultural Frankenstein's monster it spawns rip until it takes the hyperwhite institutional power down with it.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Yancey Ward, @Lurker, @Eric Novak

    Hyperfellowwhite power?

  166. @SafeNow
    Brown vs. Board was 9-0, with the opinion written by the chief justice. These factors greatly enhanced its moral and legal authority. What Steve seeks would probably receive a 5-4 opinion, with 5 justices endorsing a general rule, while 4 justices wimp-out by writing a concurring opinion limiting the white rights to the narrow facts of the case. Advocates of unequal justice in America would then loudly proclaim victory; a divided court. In the shadow of this divided opinion, unequal justice would continue. In fact, it might be emboldened, and get worse.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @bomag, @AnotherDad

    Brown vs. Board was 9-0, with the opinion written by the chief justice. These factors greatly enhanced its moral and legal authority.

    Brown was a mess. May well turn out to be the worst decision–in its effects that the Supremes every dumped on us.

    If Cold War politics decreed an end to government segregation, they could have just done that. Decreed that while, of course, people were free to organize their private affairs however they liked, that the government could not racially discriminate in its programs.

    That would have been
    — understandable to people
    — a clear constitutional principle–although not what the 14th amendment actually said
    — given southern states a clear direction–vouchers/educational choice–if white parents wanted to keep their kids out of heavily black schools/classrooms
    — given us a decision–wrapped up in the flag and “history”–that would protect Americans from a lot of the minoritarian legal/political thuggery down the road.

    Instead we got a lot of (highly dubious) social-science driven mumbo-jumbo about segregation itself inducing inferiority, harming black self-esteem (LOL) … and basically that it was whites’ job to fix it. I.e. white people had to integrate with blacks for the benefit of blacks. “Integration” was some sort of law or the land. (“Civil rights” … busing … “affirmative action” … “diversity”

    In other words: minoritarianism had its foot in the door. An opening to minoritarianism–that minoritarians have kept pushing on and on and on. (Busing … “Civil Rights” … “affirmative action” … “disparate impact” … “diversity is our greatest strength” … homosexual marriage … open borders … “transgender” nonsense … )

    The white majority must sacrifice its goals and desires, first its schools, neighborhoods … then its jobs … then its physical safety … then its culture, its nation … its civilization and existence as a people … to accommodate precious oppressed minorities.

    Funny thing: blacks don’t even want to integrate. They really don’t want to be “white bread”. Probably even more so than Jews (a mixed bag on that score). They like being black and don’t want to change.

    This, of course, isn’t that odd. Minorities tend to have strong affinity for their minority group/norms/behavior/culture … or they wouldn’t still be a minority, they’d have integrated already. Catholics still have their Catholic schools. The Golfocaust is long over, but Jews still have their Jewish clubs, and still do their ethnic networking. Schooling their kids and socializing (inc. churching) (leading toward marriage/reproduction) is, of course, where people most cling to their own.

    But the principle of minoritarianism is not actually “integration”, but that the white gentile majority can’t be allowed to have stuff of their own.

    Brown was a disaster. It didn’t create minoritarianism–that push and propaganda–was coming anyway. But it could have made minoritarianism’s rise much tougher. Instead it made it much easier. America deserved better.

    • Troll: guest007
    • Replies: @anon
    @AnotherDad


    Funny thing: blacks don’t even want to integrate. They really don’t want to be “white bread”. They like being black and don’t want to change.
     
    Blacks may not want to integrate with Whites (although black males seem to have a taste for White women), but Jews definitely want blacks to integrate with Whites (or Whites with blacks).
    , @Corvinus
    @AnotherDad

    The problem is that Southrons couldn't even abide by the simple decision made in the Plessy case--separate but equal. All they had to do was make sure educational funding and public accommodations were the same. But they got greedy, and as a consequence, received their comeuppance. Jim Crow was the disaster, not Brown. Get it straight.

    , @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    I think you are mixing up Brown with the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Brown did not concern private conduct at all, it concerned government funded public schools, perhaps one of the most pure example of government action possible. As Corvinus said, maybe if the South had followed Plessy in good faith and had in fact created separate BUT EQUAL public schools for blacks and whites, it would have been better. But the South overreached. They had separate schools that were NOT equal by any measure (not in terms of the talents of the students, which they are powerless to change, but in terms of the physical plant and quality of the teachers, the number and age of books, etc.). And so they got slapped back.

    If there had really been equal schools, maybe Plessy would have lasted longer, even though it was a bad faith decision to begin with (it was always clear that the South was never really going to provide equal facilities to blacks - Southern whites liked the "separate" part a lot more than the "equal" part). You may be right that blacks (based on their revealed preferences) didn't really want integration more than whites but they sure as hell wanted the equal protection of law that they had been promised in the 14th Amendment. As a practical matter, the only way they were going to get "equal" facilities was if they were allowed to attend the facilities that had been built for whites.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @Mr. Rational

  167. @Art Deco
    @Paperback Writer

    Lind’s point, which you evidently missed, is that Lee demonized a poor white family in a way that utterly removed it from consideration as great literature.

    They weren't a generic 'poor white family'. The father was a drunk who lived on relief checks and told his children to not bother attending school. The oldest daughter was not demonized. The notion that her portrait of the Ewell family 'utterly removed it from consideration' is bloody silly.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Lind’s point is that post WW2 20th C middle-grade fiction was mostly written by genteel whites, that their literature caricatured poor whites and held them responsible for Southern racism, when in reality the genteel whites (his relatives) were the ones truly responsible. (Something Lee wrote about more honestly in “Watchman,” which lost Atticus Finch some of his more rabid fans.)

    Lind’s essential point was that Jim Crow was a sop thrown to poor whites by the rich whites who controlled the system.

    You may agree or disagree with Lind – I do – but at least give the article a fair reading and base your dismissal on what he actually wrote, not what you imagine he wrote.

    I think he was wrong about the origins of Jim Crow. I do think he was quite right about the genteel Southern writer demonization of poor whites. Most of them (O’Connor excepted – she’s sui generis) wanted to Make It Big up North, so obliged the Yankees. That’s something Lind doesn’t explore.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Paperback Writer

    that their literature caricatured poor whites and held them responsible for Southern racism, when in reality the genteel whites (his relatives) were the ones truly responsible. (Something Lee wrote about more honestly in “Watchman,” which lost Atticus Finch some of his more rabid fans.)

    My grand-daddy wasn't responsible for someone else's bad attitudes. While we're at it that's not a fair description of the characterizations in To Kill a Mockingbird.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

  168. @El Dato
    @Dieter Kief

    This is apposite

    https://i.postimg.cc/tJCNnrH5/Astounding-Science-Fiction-The-final-weapon.jpg

    Replies: @Dieter Kief

    Thanks, El Dato for hinting how unintentionally ever – at my birth, actually. – Some Unz Review commenters are something else. (I wrote the second sentence right before I checked that birth-parallel, which is pretty accurate indeed).

  169. @WorkingClass
    Will the majority on the Supreme Court step forward to save the country from racism and destruction by restoring the Constitution?

    Of course not. Fear of the FBI is the beginning of wisdom.

    Replies: @Anon7

    I agree with this post. And yet.

    Taxpayer-funded programs to demonize and demoralize innocent white children as vengeance for the sins of long-gone co-ethnics are not only illegal (violating the ban on “hostile environment” harassment) but wicked.

    Steve Sailer makes a great moral point here, as well as a legal one. Use crowd funding to support a case that takes this to the Supreme Court.

    I’m old and cynical; I feel like I know what would happen. But I have children.

    I also have an obligation to the ones who fought (like my dad and his brother) and the ones who died to bring America this far.

    Don’t I?

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
    @Anon7



    Taxpayer-funded programs to demonize and demoralize innocent white children as vengeance for the sins of long-gone co-ethnics are not only illegal (violating the ban on “hostile environment” harassment) but wicked.
     
    Steve Sailer makes a great moral point here, as well as a legal one. Use crowd funding to support a case that takes this to the Supreme Court.
     
    The case would have to be very carefully chosen, so that it is not only legally watertight but presents the correct optics. A suitable opportunity might not arise for a year or two.
  170. @Anonymous
    One piece of good news I woke up to today. The U.S. women’s soccer team got shellacked and shut out by Sweden 3-0.


    https://media.nbcnewyork.com/2021/07/Web-210721-sweden-soccer-usa-today.jpg
    Sweden team is attractive… and they look like women

     



    https://conservativefighters.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Untitle88d-4-2-1000x600.jpg
    U.S. women’s soccer team wearing ‘Black Lives Matter’ shirts

     

    Replies: @anon, @Sick of Orcs, @AnotherDad

    The U.S. women’s soccer team got shellacked

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @anon

    And by Swedish babes at that ...


    https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-21-2015/4gHf2d.gif

  171. The Court already had their shot. More than one.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Desiderius

    https://twitter.com/mckaycoppins/status/1417556607098097673

  172. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/Peter_Nimitz/status/1417708592480735232?s=20

    Replies: @Goddard, @SunBakedSuburb, @Corvinus

    “Nightmarish futures can avoided [sic]”

    The somewhat nightmarish present signals purgatory USA. This can be avoided if white dudes of a conservative bent junk their old saws, summon their ancestral spirits, and remove their handsome heads from their rears.

  173. @Travis
    to save America we need to address the pending demographic changes. Affirmative action will end when whites become a minority in twenty years time.

    https://twitter.com/JDKnox4/status/1417928398165397516?s=20

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @guest007

    “pending demographic changes”

    It might help if I step out of my bio-secure bubble and go out there and impregnate attractive young white women.

  174. RE: BB753

    And the Supreme Court is nowhere in the Constitution, not even reading between the lines..

    You should have kept reading, til you got to Article III, Section 1.

    Duh.

  175. @Ralph L
    @Desiderius

    Now there are some actual codewords!

    I've got no idea if they're "racist."

    Replies: @El Dato

    Of course they are.

    Also: “Robots have rights, too!”

  176. @Mike Tre
    The premise of "civil rights" is flawed to begin with. Civil rights were always intended to be a power grab from the traditional Euro descended US. It has worked out as intended.

    What the US needs to do, regardless of the SC, is get back to recognizing the Bill of Rights as our standard. Freedom of Association, which the Civil Rights Act essentially eliminated, must be restored first and foremost.

    Forced integration is 10 times as immoral as forced segregation. We see the results of that daily.

    End so called civil rights outright, and restore constitutional rights.

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    Philadelphia and many northern cities were integrated decades before civil rights legislation banned the freedom of association. Certainly civil rights legislation compounded the problems, but our Northern cities had already been decimated with demographic diversity by 1960. I suppose we could blame redlining, yet in Philly the redlined areas were primarily ethnic whites until 1940. My grandfather grew up in Powelton Village (West Philly) which was redlined in 1934 when it was still 90% white. My grandmother grew up in Germantown , which was also redlined and the location of one of the first housing projects in Philly in 1952.

    All four of my grandparents grew up in different neighborhoods , 3 in Philly, one in Chester. All 4 saw their childhood neighborhoods go from 95% white to 90% Black by 1960 and with the change the value of their property collapsed as the crime rate soared.

    civil rights legislation certainly made the cities worse , resulting in even more white flight.

  177. @Travis
    to save America we need to address the pending demographic changes. Affirmative action will end when whites become a minority in twenty years time.

    https://twitter.com/JDKnox4/status/1417928398165397516?s=20

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @guest007

    Affirmative action will not end any more than minority set aside contracting ended in Baltimore or Atlanta after the city government were controlled by blacks. For blacks, the special rules will become permanent. If reparations passes and approved by the courts, separate and unequal will become the law of the land.

  178. OT DutchAnon says proof lockdown worse than virus. Can’t check myself, so no guarantee re the jump (if you don’t trust it don’t click).

    Released documents show the Dutch government calculated that the lockdown would kill 6x more quality lifeyears than it would save.

    –620,000 quality years of life were expected to be lost from the lockdown vs 100,000 saved.
    –this does NOT even include the economic damage, the mental health damage and god knows what else.
    –this does NOT even include the general loss of quality of life for all citizens
    –this calculation was done BEFORE covid IFR was strongly revised down by the WHO.

    In other words this is still a MASSIVE underestimation of the damage.

    Van Dissel, Rutte and de Jonge will go down as the biggest mass murderers in Dutch history [not the Spanish? –ed]

    Presentation:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TDhk6Shhfz7dgcQ5DjK5SaLofyTBYM9S/view?usp=drivesdk

  179. @Paperback Writer
    @Art Deco


    (1) They won’t be ‘worse’ at all. Blacks in salaried employment or operating small businesses don’t live in the slum districts where all the social problems are. With some exceptions (clergymen, undertakers), they don’t work there either.
     
    They'll be worse off without quotas because they will have to compete with others on a level playing field. See: Gottfredson. Some other commenter did a good job of recapping her findings. Search for it.

    (2) The components of the black bourgeoisie which have the most direct contact with feral young people are schoolteachers, school administrators, social workers, clergymen, police officers, and public defenders.

     

    So what? That's true of white SJWs, and other Goodwhites, and it doesn't change their opinions an iota. In any case I fail to see the relevance to the issue of black competitiveness.

    (3) There was a black middle class prior to 1966. They actually lived and worked among other strata of the black population.
     
    Here we get to the heart of the matter. It amazes me how you're able to cite facts and then miss the essence. Prior to 1966 blacks mainly competed with other blacks in a society segregated by custom and law.

    This was bad for many blacks but great for the elite. Someone like Katherine Johnson or David Blackwell (look him up) were the top of the pyramid. Have them compete with whites and they're good, but not great. (Look up the story about Blackwell and John Von Neumann.)

    This worked all down the line - middling successful blacks, competing with Everyone Else, would not be middling - they'd be lower class, possibly working poor.

    So what was your point?

    Replies: @International Jew, @Jack D

    Someone like Katherine Johnson or David Blackwell (look him up) were the top of the pyramid.

    David Blackwell was a real mathematician who proved new theorems and thus expanded human knowledge. I learned some of his work in college and grad school. Katherine Johnson was, I’m sure, a nice lady and good at her job, but she was a clerical worker; she calculated rocket trajectories all right but she did so by plugging numbers into formulas other people derived and gave her.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @International Jew

    Don't exaggerate. Johnson was a bit more than a clerical worker. In any case you're proving my point for me: when she was competing with blacks, she was top rank. If she'd been competing with whites, even white women, she'd have been no big deal.

    And my point about Blackwell and Von Neumann was that as brilliant as Blackwell was, after 10 minutes explaining his work to VN, he admitted that VN knew more about the subject than he did.

    Replies: @International Jew

  180. @Art Deco
    @Achmed E. Newman

    #837, much of the black middle class is in government,

    Blacks are more likely to be public sector workers. The difference in propensity is modest, however, about 30%. A great deal of that is accounted for by postal service employees and metro transit employees, who are hourly employees.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jack D, @Paperback Writer, @Alden

    A 30% difference, applied to the major metro areas where blacks do dominate the public sector, is enormous.

    NYC transit workers are not hourly employees. They are members of the Transit Workers Union, whose leader, “Red” Mike Quill, brought the city to its knees in 1966.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Quill

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Paperback Writer

    A 30% difference, applied to the major metro areas where blacks do dominate the public sector, is enormous.

    It means 18% of the black working population consists of public employees, rather than the 14% which prevails in the rest of the population. You people need to get a grip.

  181. @anon
    @Anonymous

    The U.S. women’s soccer team got shellacked

    https://media.giphy.com/media/c8YC8htf5YQg0/giphy.gif

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    And by Swedish babes at that …

  182. @Abolish_public_education
    Awful. The lawyer-justices are part of the problem; and they always will be.

    Make the USG budget (no “off”) as small as possible; $75B per year sounds about right. Then, no matter how much suck is contained therein, it won’t affect 329.9M Americans.

    I believe that by getting the small government revolution started at the state level, e.g. a_p_e, we can embarrass Washington enough to get it to self-downsize.

    Replies: @Tono Bungay, @Anonymous, @AnotherDad

    Make the USG budget (no “off”) as small as possible; $75B per year sounds about right. Then, no matter how much suck is contained therein, it won’t affect 329.9M Americans.

    I believe that by getting the small government revolution started at the state level, e.g. a_p_e, we can embarrass Washington enough to get it to self-downsize.

    APE, you’re not going to “embarrass” the super-state into anything.

    But beyond that the obvious improvement nationalists/conservatives could do on the state level is vouchers. Give parents the financial heft to pick the educational option for their kids. That gets around much of the CRT propaganda issue.

    But i’ve pointed that out before and you didn’t like that either. I don’t know what you program is, but it seems to be having parents foot all the bills from their own pocket at that moment in time. Which is … ridiculous:

    — Education–not necessarily all the b.s. in US schools, but literacy, numeracy–is pretty critical for economic development/performance. It’s much, much, much better to be in a nation that is getting almost everyone (the retards aren’t really important) educated; to have not just a well educated elite, but a literate/numerate working class.

    — Fertility. We need higher middle class fertility not lower. Dumping all the education costs on young families–when they are just starting out and their incomes are low–is just stupid. It’s a recipe for one-child-and-the-wife-goes-back-to-work-to-pay-for-private-school amongst the higher IQ classes. While the classes who don’t care about education can keep popping out babies willy-nilly. More dumb people with minimal skills. Peachy.

    My kids are grown, and i’m paying several thousands in property taxes for public education. The education part doesn’t bother me. I want the kids in my nation getting educated. What i object to is all the minoritarian lies and nonsense taught and the public sector featherbedding.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @AnotherDad


    . Give parents the financial heft to pick the educational option for their kids. That gets around much of the CRT propaganda issue.
     
    Theoretically, yes, but what do you make of this? The lady is suing a charter school.

    https://www.nevadacurrent.com/2021/01/21/las-vegas-charter-school-sued-for-curriculum-covering-race-identity/

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @anon
    @AnotherDad

    What i object to is all the minoritarian lies and nonsense taught and the public sector featherbedding.

    What are you doing about that, besides grousing in comboxes?

  183. @RichardTaylor
    Yes! Whites must have civil rights. That would include pro-Whites or White advocates.

    This got me thinking about how the Supreme Court could play a role in saving the United States of America from breaking apart due to the surging tide of antiwhite racist hate emanating from many of its most powerful institutions.
     
    However, my people, White people, have a right to exist not because it helps save the USA or any other political construct, but simply for their own sake.

    Replies: @Polistra, @ATBOTL, @Corvinus

    However, my people, White people, have a right to exist not because it helps save the USA or any other political construct, but simply for their own sake.

    It’s amazing how many of the cucky boomers here can’t think in these clear terms. Everything these boomer cucks say about opposing anti-white polices is couched in an individualist framework about saving multi-racialism.

    There is no way white Americans are getting out of this jam without explicit white identity politics and whites thinking of themselves as being a group with group interests instead of just being individuals.

    It’s mind-blowing how bad most of the comments on this blog have always been. It’s even more mind-blowing that they are still this bad even under the current situation. These boomer cucks are submissive to the core. Everything they say is an attempt to pander to the enemy and they never think to assert power.

    The good news is that being a race realist and racial cuckhold at the same time is a boomer thing. Almost all Gen X and Millennial aged whites who are race realists are also pro-white.

  184. @Barnard
    @AndrewR

    Alito would do the right thing on this issue also. How we lucked into George W. Bush appointing him we will never know. It appears the only two reliable Supreme Court Justices on racial issues were appointed by the Bush family, who will abhor their opinions in their desire to turn the U.S. into a Latin American type state. One of Trump's picks might also want to throw us a bone here, you are correct, it won't Amy Coney Barrett.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew

    Alito is the best m. the right hadnt had a right wing Id justice for a long time until he came along. I’ve been saying for years pick the nerds who know they’ll never be glamorous no matter how they vote. Hell the clerks write the decisions anyways and Gorsuch and Alito are plenty smart. Just start nominating state school judges there clerks can write the decisions and alito can make sure that the state school judges clerks don’t pull any fast ones. Tell whoever is running Liberty now to fire up a law school and just start appointing those kids to the bench. The idea that judges need to be smart is pure window dressing.

    Word is Gorsuch hates Kavanaugh and Roberts and is increasingly falling into line with Alito and Thomas. It’s a 3/3/3 court now which is infuriating but at least the Federalist Society has been discredited.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
  185. @International Jew
    @Paperback Writer


    Someone like Katherine Johnson or David Blackwell (look him up) were the top of the pyramid.
     
    David Blackwell was a real mathematician who proved new theorems and thus expanded human knowledge. I learned some of his work in college and grad school. Katherine Johnson was, I'm sure, a nice lady and good at her job, but she was a clerical worker; she calculated rocket trajectories all right but she did so by plugging numbers into formulas other people derived and gave her.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    Don’t exaggerate. Johnson was a bit more than a clerical worker. In any case you’re proving my point for me: when she was competing with blacks, she was top rank. If she’d been competing with whites, even white women, she’d have been no big deal.

    And my point about Blackwell and Von Neumann was that as brilliant as Blackwell was, after 10 minutes explaining his work to VN, he admitted that VN knew more about the subject than he did.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Paperback Writer


    after 10 minutes explaining his work to VN, he admitted that VN knew more about the subject than he did.
     
    Yeah, but that's just the kind of thing everyone used to say about von Neumann . The best mathematicians of his generation were in awe of him.

    Katherine Johnson was doing for NASA what other "computers" (as the job was called) were doing at insurance companies working out the appropriate premium for people of different ages, a formula that has a double integral behind it, which actuaries understand but computers see as just tedious additions.

    Mathematical models stated in their general form might bristle with exotic symbols, but calculating the answer to a specific problem always boils down to the four operations everyone knows by fourth grade — addition, subtraction, multiplication and division.


    Plugging numbers into formulas is clerical work.


    Bottom line, you're underestimating Blackwell and overestimating Johnson.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Paperback Writer

  186. @AnotherDad
    @Abolish_public_education


    Make the USG budget (no “off”) as small as possible; $75B per year sounds about right. Then, no matter how much suck is contained therein, it won’t affect 329.9M Americans.

    I believe that by getting the small government revolution started at the state level, e.g. a_p_e, we can embarrass Washington enough to get it to self-downsize.
     
    APE, you're not going to "embarrass" the super-state into anything.

    But beyond that the obvious improvement nationalists/conservatives could do on the state level is vouchers. Give parents the financial heft to pick the educational option for their kids. That gets around much of the CRT propaganda issue.

    But i've pointed that out before and you didn't like that either. I don't know what you program is, but it seems to be having parents foot all the bills from their own pocket at that moment in time. Which is ... ridiculous:

    -- Education--not necessarily all the b.s. in US schools, but literacy, numeracy--is pretty critical for economic development/performance. It's much, much, much better to be in a nation that is getting almost everyone (the retards aren't really important) educated; to have not just a well educated elite, but a literate/numerate working class.

    -- Fertility. We need higher middle class fertility not lower. Dumping all the education costs on young families--when they are just starting out and their incomes are low--is just stupid. It's a recipe for one-child-and-the-wife-goes-back-to-work-to-pay-for-private-school amongst the higher IQ classes. While the classes who don't care about education can keep popping out babies willy-nilly. More dumb people with minimal skills. Peachy.


    My kids are grown, and i'm paying several thousands in property taxes for public education. The education part doesn't bother me. I want the kids in my nation getting educated. What i object to is all the minoritarian lies and nonsense taught and the public sector featherbedding.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @anon

    . Give parents the financial heft to pick the educational option for their kids. That gets around much of the CRT propaganda issue.

    Theoretically, yes, but what do you make of this? The lady is suing a charter school.

    https://www.nevadacurrent.com/2021/01/21/las-vegas-charter-school-sued-for-curriculum-covering-race-identity/

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Paperback Writer


    Theoretically, yes, but what do you make of this? The lady is suing a charter school.

    https://www.nevadacurrent.com/2021/01/21/las-vegas-charter-school-sued-for-curriculum-covering-race-identity/
     
    I make of it, that:
    a) we have a lot of unnecessary legal b.s. that goes on; a huge percentage of because of minoritarianism

    b) we'd have a lot more social peace, including a bit less of aforesaid legal b.s. if we a had a fully developed private K-12 educational market; which we would have with vouchers.


    If we had vouchers there would already be lots of more traditional/conservative options available for precisely the sort of parents (white, sane) fighting against CRT.

    And actually we'd have more than just that, we'd have more effective educational options. The Fordist model we have now, while not terrible, is not the be all and end all of education. With computers and the Internet there's tremendous opportunity for innovation, including individual tailoring of education.

    My actual teaching experience is limited to college level, but if i was running a school i'd have a lot more computer driven individual instruction and a lot more hands on--physical toys, labs, shop (wood, metal, electrical, computers), home ec, athletics and sports, rifle range, hikes, kayaking, camping ... plus have the students and teachers doing cleaning and maintenance. AnotherDad school would be awesome and all graduates would understand HBD, eugenic fertility and that marriage and children is the bedrock of both civilization and individual life-long happiness/connectedness
  187. @Paperback Writer
    @Art Deco

    Lind's point is that post WW2 20th C middle-grade fiction was mostly written by genteel whites, that their literature caricatured poor whites and held them responsible for Southern racism, when in reality the genteel whites (his relatives) were the ones truly responsible. (Something Lee wrote about more honestly in "Watchman," which lost Atticus Finch some of his more rabid fans.)

    Lind's essential point was that Jim Crow was a sop thrown to poor whites by the rich whites who controlled the system.

    You may agree or disagree with Lind - I do - but at least give the article a fair reading and base your dismissal on what he actually wrote, not what you imagine he wrote.

    I think he was wrong about the origins of Jim Crow. I do think he was quite right about the genteel Southern writer demonization of poor whites. Most of them (O'Connor excepted - she's sui generis) wanted to Make It Big up North, so obliged the Yankees. That's something Lind doesn't explore.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    that their literature caricatured poor whites and held them responsible for Southern racism, when in reality the genteel whites (his relatives) were the ones truly responsible. (Something Lee wrote about more honestly in “Watchman,” which lost Atticus Finch some of his more rabid fans.)

    My grand-daddy wasn’t responsible for someone else’s bad attitudes. While we’re at it that’s not a fair description of the characterizations in To Kill a Mockingbird.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Art Deco

    I've no idea who your "grand-daddy" was. If you're saying he was a rich Southern gent, well, he had more and better opportunities to speak out against colored water fountains than poor whites did, and some ability to influence things. They had none.

    I disagree with you about the characterizations in TKaM, it's pretty obvious that Lee considered them barely human, otherwise why kill the father and present that as justice, rather than a continuation of the brutality that was done to them, in the brutal system of Southern class apartheid?

    But that's not really what Lind was saying. His point was far larger than one book, and since you don't want to discuss that, I consider this conversation at an impasse.

    Replies: @ATBOTL, @Art Deco

  188. I wasn’t born yesterday. I know life isn’t fair. I know Family Courts hate men but still want to take all the money they have. But I would rather deal with that than get shot or thrown in jail for little or no reason.

    Poor Steve Sailor, everybody is picking on him. He’s completely helpless and can’t do anything to help himself, like work harder. It’s so sad.

  189. @Paperback Writer
    I am not a lawyer either. I would appreciate being corrected by the lawyers who comment here, but I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the phrase "protected class" means.

    Protected class refers to race, not blacks or whites. Theoretically, the civil Rights laws protect anyone of any race, and occasionally, whites have proven that they were discriminated against on the basis of race. So there's that.

    The problem is everything else. It's the society that interprets these laws. You have to bang away on the original meaning of the civil rights laws, not start a wild goose chase creating whites as an ethnic group. This is bound to fail. But then again, banging away doesn't do much good either. It is catch 22 all over again.

    Secondly, the Supreme Court has already ruled on the subject of compelled speech. (A black mother in Nevada is suing on exactly this basis.) Look up 1943 Barnett versus state of West Virginia. There is no doubt in my mind that critical race theory, as it is currently being practiced, is a total violation of compelled speech.

    So I am absolutely certain that parents can win on those narrow legal grounds. But as Richard Hanania has pointed out, the problem is so much bigger. I am old enough to remember when, many years ago, the conservative forces in New York City (and we had) them, got rid of "Heather has two mommies" in the curriculum.

    Look where that got us.

    Replies: @Alan D

    I like the phrase “compelled speech”. I have sometimes used “lack of freedom of silence” to mean the same thing.

    In most dictatorships the citizen does not have freedom of speech, by definition, but he does have freedom of silence. He was not allowed to criticise Mussolini, but did not have to praise him if he didn’t want to. However, in China the citizen had to praise Chairman Mao – he could not remain silent.

    Here in Australia public figures have to praise people such as women in non-traditional fields and Aborigines, but at this stage the average citizen is generally allowed to say nothing.

  190. @AnotherDad

    Keep in mind that there is no way to divide the U.S. up geographically that will cure what ails us.
     
    There isn't any clear immediate geographic separation that works.

    But that isn't critical. There are schemes to achieve political separation--to get us out of each other's hair that are possible. (I've got one. I'm sure other folks have others.) And those could lead to geographic separation eventually.

    But more on point, i am certain that talking about separation--raising the issue--is critical.

    Separation does three things--which are really one thing:

    1) it makes the point that the shit the minoritarians are doing is really abusive--nation breaking; if you're going to get 'em to stop without separation they have to realize this.

    2) it makes a very powerful political point about who is actually oppressing whom; the people happy to walk away and go about their own business can not actually be the oppressors; (despite minoritarian propaganda)

    3) it--once people think about it--reveals who is actually parasitic upon whom; this reality will make our minoritarian bully boys very hostile to separation, but it also has the power to "rip back the curtain" and wake up white people

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @Jamie_NYC, @Ben tillman, @Nicholas Stix

    Possibilities for How “the American Experiment” Will End

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2012/05/possibilities-for-how-american.html

    • Replies: @anon
    @Nicholas Stix

    Boston T. Party's novel Molon Labe is a bit dated, but resembles your option #1.

    However, the panopticon that we live within has grown astoundingly since 2012. Domestic surveillance is far beyond anything dreamed of or feared back in the 1990's.


  191. Nice article.

    Here’s my tip for you: did the Milwaukee Bucks win the NBA finals because they got rid of their BLM ringleaders? would touch on your broader theme about institutions declining when theyfocus its’ members’ grievances instead their core competencies.

    From last year:

    https://fansided.com/2020/08/26/milwaukee-bucks-statement-strike-protest-jacob-blake-video/

    You can’t be a champion unless you have your head in the game.

  192. @AndrewR
    @Polistra

    Why do you take it for granted that the losers of this conflict will end up being non-melanated goyim?

    Replies: @Ben tillman

    Hear, hear!

  193. @Desiderius
    @anonymous

    https://twitter.com/YungSpengler/status/1417651699259428866?s=20

    This is not a drill.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Ben tillman, @Ralph L, @MEH 0910

  194. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1417914788928233475?s=20

    The Court already had their shot. More than one.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  195. Anonymous[128] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Desiderius

    Jack D:


    There is no middle ground.
     
    Desiderius:

    Of course there is. Analysis and Synthesis never stops. One of the things new generations are for.
     
    Maybe, but Jack has a point. Beyond tearing down statues, other features of recent European history, i.e. the outright genocide of millions, may soon become a feature of recent American history. With enough will, it’s always possible to wipe out the other side’s “new generations”. Your “middle ground” will be a literal coast-to-coast battlefield.

    Thesis, Antithesis, Nemesis.

    Replies: @Jack D, @El Dato, @Anonymous

    Keep in mind that under international law, genocide does not require violence as such.

  196. @AnotherDad
    @Abolish_public_education


    Make the USG budget (no “off”) as small as possible; $75B per year sounds about right. Then, no matter how much suck is contained therein, it won’t affect 329.9M Americans.

    I believe that by getting the small government revolution started at the state level, e.g. a_p_e, we can embarrass Washington enough to get it to self-downsize.
     
    APE, you're not going to "embarrass" the super-state into anything.

    But beyond that the obvious improvement nationalists/conservatives could do on the state level is vouchers. Give parents the financial heft to pick the educational option for their kids. That gets around much of the CRT propaganda issue.

    But i've pointed that out before and you didn't like that either. I don't know what you program is, but it seems to be having parents foot all the bills from their own pocket at that moment in time. Which is ... ridiculous:

    -- Education--not necessarily all the b.s. in US schools, but literacy, numeracy--is pretty critical for economic development/performance. It's much, much, much better to be in a nation that is getting almost everyone (the retards aren't really important) educated; to have not just a well educated elite, but a literate/numerate working class.

    -- Fertility. We need higher middle class fertility not lower. Dumping all the education costs on young families--when they are just starting out and their incomes are low--is just stupid. It's a recipe for one-child-and-the-wife-goes-back-to-work-to-pay-for-private-school amongst the higher IQ classes. While the classes who don't care about education can keep popping out babies willy-nilly. More dumb people with minimal skills. Peachy.


    My kids are grown, and i'm paying several thousands in property taxes for public education. The education part doesn't bother me. I want the kids in my nation getting educated. What i object to is all the minoritarian lies and nonsense taught and the public sector featherbedding.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer, @anon

    What i object to is all the minoritarian lies and nonsense taught and the public sector featherbedding.

    What are you doing about that, besides grousing in comboxes?

  197. @Art Deco
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Art, no disrespect here, but just where do you live in which every government office of ANY kind is not chock full of black people, mostly women?

    I've lived in three different cities and in small towns as well. Blacks constitute about 12% of the working population so will be found in noticeable numbers lots of places. As we speak, about 18% of all federal civilian employees are black. The same applies to active-duty military.

    Discrete occupations where (1) blacks are abnormally common and (2) public employment is common are as follows:

    Postal clerks (38.4%)
    Bus drivers (37%)
    Jail and prison guards (32.9%)
    Postal mail sorters &c (31.1%)
    Jail and prison guards, supervisory (30.6%)
    Community and social service employees, NOS (30.4%)
    Garbage collectors (27.9%)
    Probation officers (26.9%)
    Social workers, child-family-school (26.8%)
    Social workers, NOS (25.7%)
    Drug counselors (25.4%)
    Court, municipal, and license clerks (23.1%)
    Bus drivers, school (21.5%)
    Eligibility interviewers (20.7%)
    Guidance counselors (19%)
    Social and human service assistants (18.9%)
    Letter carriers (18.7%)
    Locomotive engineers (18.6%)
    Social and community service managers (18.3%)
    Judges, magistrates &c (16.1%)
    Coaches and scouts (14.7%)
    Tax examiners, collectors &c (14.5%)
    Education and childcare administrators (14.3%)
    Budget analysts (13.9%)
    Detectives and criminal investigators (13.9%)
    Teaching assistants (13.6%)


    About 4.3% of the working population is found in these occupations. About 20% of those employed in these occupations are black. There are 1.28 million blacks employed in these occupations, accounting for 7% of the population of working blacks.

    Replies: @Abolish_public_education, @Achmed E. Newman

    OK, Art, with a little less respeck this time, cause I remember telling you this 3 years ago or so: Art, you tend to pull numbers off the internet, not always having the background to know whether they are completely meaningless or not. One thing, if you have been around a bit, is you think D.I.M.S., or Does It Make Sense?

    There is no way these occupations add up to 4.3% of the jobs held by Americans! People in education alone are more than that proportion. Your numbers DO NOT MAKE SENSE. Go to the site of the US Gov’t BLS* and this page. Just in “Educational Services” alone there are 13.7 million people, of which 11.6% are black.** OK, we’re at 1.6 million already!

    Look at post office employees. You’ve got 622,000 of them, with just under 1/4 being black. I can do that in my head – that’s another 155,000. Look at the specific category of “Bus Service and Urban Transit” – I expected about 0.03% white, haha, but no, the proportion of black employees is right at 1/3 of 389,000. Also in my head, ~ 130,000. Here’s the biggie that is by definition government, “Public administration” – you’ve got 17.5% of 7.5 million – another 1.3 million there Art.

    “Social Assistance”? There may be some charity employees in there, but I’d guess most is government supported. Oops, that’s 19.9% of 3.14 million – 624,000, but, sure 1/2 of them could be working privately, as the childcare category is a significant chunk.

    Pretty soon, it adds to real money… for us taxpayers who don’t ride the bus, don’t like the public schools, HATE, HATE, HATE going into any government offices, and OK, I like the Post Office, and when the other mailman doesn’t sub in and deliver the previous house’s mail to the next one for the whole block, I like my regular Oriental mailman a lot.

    We’re up to around 4 million black government employees at decent-paying jobs already without plenty of people that don’t seem to fit under the categories I already mentioned.

    The “Public Administration” does not include those guys taking the trash and doing maintenance on the trees, sewers, and roads (as you included, but I didn’t – for the roads, it’s probably under “Services incidental to transportation”.) I just got these guys to help me out with some work. Great guys! One white supervisor and 2 or 3 black guys operation small heavy machinery. The white guy did his share to help too.

    So my point stands, but you just wasted nearly an hour of my time. That’s annoying, Art. Can you trust that people have some common sense and maybe not trust numbers just pulled off the internet without a lot of thinking about them?

    .

    * I know better than to trust them on inflation numbers (there are some creative green eyeshade whit boys over there), but I guess I’ll give ’em credit for using a dBase to count occupations accurately.

    ** The BLS does not seem to want to break out taxpayer-supported vs. others, but most of them, especially the black employees, are going to be in public education.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Achmed E. Newman

    There is no way these occupations add up to 4.3% of the jobs held by Americans!

    Take it up with the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  198. Centralization of social policy requires that everyone, as a matter of self defense, become a supremacist.

    THAT is “what ails us”.

    As with any critique, the argument that assortative migration by geography is unworkable must answer the question, “Compared to what?”

    We’re already a “patchwork nation”.

    No all our SCOTUS overlords need to do to save themselves is recognize that the original intent of the First Amendment arose from the Thirty Years War for religious freedom, that the end of that bloodiest of wars in European history was assortative migration and that modernist replacement of religious doctrine with social theory is leading to them being defenestrated (not that they care about 25% of the population dying in a bloody conflict).

  199. @Art Deco
    @Paperback Writer

    that their literature caricatured poor whites and held them responsible for Southern racism, when in reality the genteel whites (his relatives) were the ones truly responsible. (Something Lee wrote about more honestly in “Watchman,” which lost Atticus Finch some of his more rabid fans.)

    My grand-daddy wasn't responsible for someone else's bad attitudes. While we're at it that's not a fair description of the characterizations in To Kill a Mockingbird.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    I’ve no idea who your “grand-daddy” was. If you’re saying he was a rich Southern gent, well, he had more and better opportunities to speak out against colored water fountains than poor whites did, and some ability to influence things. They had none.

    I disagree with you about the characterizations in TKaM, it’s pretty obvious that Lee considered them barely human, otherwise why kill the father and present that as justice, rather than a continuation of the brutality that was done to them, in the brutal system of Southern class apartheid?

    But that’s not really what Lind was saying. His point was far larger than one book, and since you don’t want to discuss that, I consider this conversation at an impasse.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    @Paperback Writer

    Art Deco is an elderly neocon troll. Nothing he says is in good faith.

    , @Art Deco
    @Paperback Writer

    I disagree with you about the characterizations in TKaM, it’s pretty obvious that Lee considered them barely human, otherwise why kill the father and present that as justice,

    The patriarch of the lumpen clan is killed in the narrative by a local resident as said patriarch was attempting to kill a 13 year old youth (who received a severe injury in the course of the attempt to kill him). The Sheriff understands it as a justifiable homicide, which of course it is. He elects to file a false police report to protect the privacy of the recluse who killed the man.


    I’ve no idea who your “grand-daddy” was. If you’re saying he was a rich Southern gent, well, he had more and better opportunities to speak out against colored water fountains than poor whites did, and some ability to influence things. They had none.

    My grand-daddy was an ordinary suburban bourgeois, the son of an ordinary small-town bourgeois. He had no interest in 'speaking out' against 'colored water fountains'. He was very civically engaged, but that sort of thing did not interest him. He had no more 'opportunity' than did anyone else to do so. He was responsible for his own bad attitudes, not for anyone else's.

    Replies: @Jack D

  200. @Anon7
    @WorkingClass

    I agree with this post. And yet.


    Taxpayer-funded programs to demonize and demoralize innocent white children as vengeance for the sins of long-gone co-ethnics are not only illegal (violating the ban on "hostile environment" harassment) but wicked.
     
    Steve Sailer makes a great moral point here, as well as a legal one. Use crowd funding to support a case that takes this to the Supreme Court.

    I’m old and cynical; I feel like I know what would happen. But I have children.

    I also have an obligation to the ones who fought (like my dad and his brother) and the ones who died to bring America this far.

    Don’t I?

    Replies: @James N. Kennett

    Taxpayer-funded programs to demonize and demoralize innocent white children as vengeance for the sins of long-gone co-ethnics are not only illegal (violating the ban on “hostile environment” harassment) but wicked.

    Steve Sailer makes a great moral point here, as well as a legal one. Use crowd funding to support a case that takes this to the Supreme Court.

    The case would have to be very carefully chosen, so that it is not only legally watertight but presents the correct optics. A suitable opportunity might not arise for a year or two.

  201. @Redman
    Good piece Steve. But a bit naive I think.

    I am a lawyer and my remaining faith in judges upholding the “rule of law” or Constitutional principles has nearly evaporated.

    You say the courts should argue “two wrongs don’t make a right.” But Obama’s top lawyer was one Eric Holder, who once famously said “when they go low, we go lower.” The majority of lawyers supported Obama and Holder, particularly the younger ones. Caldwell may not be a lawyer, but he was definitely onto something.

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @Anonymous

    Watch for a significant change in the quantity, quality, and passion of the pro-white briefing the Court receives.

  202. @Nicholas Stix
    @AnotherDad

    Possibilities for How “the American Experiment” Will End

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2012/05/possibilities-for-how-american.html

    Replies: @anon

    Boston T. Party’s novel Molon Labe is a bit dated, but resembles your option #1.

    However, the panopticon that we live within has grown astoundingly since 2012. Domestic surveillance is far beyond anything dreamed of or feared back in the 1990’s.

  203. Your article is a tour-de-force. It reinforces your status as a sui generis. I salute you.

  204. @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I hope (and pray) that you are wrong about this. The experience in Africa, the Caribbean, etc. has been (1) whites giving up power in the face of black numerical superiority and (2) victorious blacks NOT engaging in genocide of white. Sure there is lots of crime in which individual whites may be killed and the government may try to make whites miserable enough to leave (seize their property, etc.) , but there is no mass extermination of whites. For a while at least, whites are kept around (albeit as 2nd class citizens) because blacks realize that they need their skills to a certain extent. I think this is the most likely scenario for the US.

    Conversely, the idea that whites will one day wake up and take back power even though they are a declining minority is a fantasy - I don't think that's going to happen. It's just going to be a steady drip drip erosion of white control and the smooth functioning of society. There is a lot of ruin in a nation (see for example Venezuela) so that even after the power grid, etc. fails people will just put up with it in the face of a powerful government. At some point, we will join Russia as a former superpower and become Brasil do Norte, maybe even socialist. The Latino underclass seems to like socialism and demagogic leaders.

    Gradual decline is not as much of a dramatic fun fantasy as an apocalyptic war for control with lots of explosions and a New Order (hopefully your side) emerging triumphant and victorious, but I think it is the more realistic scenario. It's going to be more like the Fall of Rome than the Fall of Berlin.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Nicholas Stix

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Nicholas Stix

    Haiti was the exception and no other black country has tried to emulate them because the results were so clearly disastrous, not just for the white planters but for the blacks themselves. Haiti is an object lesson, even for blacks, in what NOT to do.

    Although of course the Woke POV is that Haiti is a shithole because the French made the Haitians pay reparations afterward. If it wasn't for those reparation payments, Haiti would be Wakanda by now. Even if there are no white people in sight, whatever blacks do to each other is always white people's fault anyway. White people were also (somehow) responsible for the Rwandan genocide. Macron begs the people of Rwanda to forgive France.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57270099

    Bad juju is like radio - it involves action at a distance.

  205. @AnotherDad

    In his 2020 book Age of Entitlement, Christopher Caldwell argues:

    The changes of the 1960s, with civil rights at their core, were not just a major new element in the Constitution. They were a rival constitution, with which the original one was frequently incompatible…
     
    That’s true, but…here’s the thing: Technically, the Constitution hasn’t been abrogated
     
    "Technically" sure. But there's a whole body of case law. And ethnic, political, career and financial interests behind the rival constitution. It has power behind it. The Constitution--the original--does not.

    Judges should enunciate that arguments over whether one is punching down (bad) or punching up (good) are irrelevant. Punching is against the law.
     
    But this is the core of it.

    Since the rise of the Jews in the 1960s, they have--very, very successfully--propagandized the minoritarian narrative--minorities oppressed, virtuous; majorities oppressive, evil.

    That majorities do not have rights--most obviously freedom of association--but also that minorities are the standard of value for judging the fairness, virtue and legality of ... well, everything, but certainly laws is absolutely sacrosanct.

    The minoritarian transformation has been incredibly successful. Minoritarianism is the religion/religious-justification for the super-state political party--old concerns about class and the working man kicked to the curb--ergo the religion of the state establishment. And there are some financial interests as well, and a lot of "iron rice bowls"--comfy sinecures--involved. But most impressively minoritarian propaganda--along with some economic/class interests--managed to cleave huge numbers of overclass/virtue-signalling white gentiles, making them essentially fellow travelers. (Basically camp kapos complicit in their own genocide.)

    The Supreme Court giving some minor pushback on direct government anti-white cheating--where it's not sanctioned by law--is possible. I'm thinking about stuff like say Biden's illegal racial farm subsidies.

    But the idea that the Supremes are going to step up to the plate and overthrow this massive super-structure of minoritarianism--this rival constitution--that the minoritarians put in place over the last 60 years, cemented in place by uncountable reams and reels of propaganda ... not going to happen. We'll have blood in the streets before that would go down.

    No the future is not going to be pretty.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @J.Ross, @Almost Missouri, @kneelin' joey b, @Prof. Woland, @Ian Smith

    If they were able to set up a rival constitution to supersede the old one so easily, maybe constitutions aren’t all they’re cracked up to be.

  206. @Whiskey
    Steve, that was a terrible column and boomer cope.

    The Supremes are likely to rule around 7-2 that not only do Whites NOT HAVE CIVIL RIGHTS, but that the Government MUST DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THEM. As a moral and constitutional matter.

    As far as the Constitution goes, you might as well wipe your ass with it. It has as much use as toilet paper. The 1964 Civil Rights Act is what matters, and it supersedes and abolishes the Constitution. White cannot have any rights at all in our society.

    What you neglect is that the moral, cultural, political, and social legitimacy of the ruling Elite and system is based on:

    1. Whites are genetically evil and must be punished over and over again for the sins of long dead White people, even if they are no relations.
    2. Blacks are the Holy Racial Redeemers of the Original Sin of Whiteness, and Holy beyond dispute, and the natural and Holy Ruling Class.

    The Supremes given these cultural, social, political, and above all MORAL beliefs cannot rule otherwise than Whites HAVE NO RIGHTS AND MUST BE CRUSHED.

    What the Supremes will rule is that not only can but the Government MUST discriminate against Whites. White kids must be told over and over again that they are evil and black people Holy. That they cannot advance themselves at all in life because they are genetically evil. That colleges and Universities MUST discriminate against Whites and take almost none in. That Whites MUST be fired from not just Government jobs but private sector jobs, and be replaced by blacks, or at worst, Latinos. And that the Government can and should put White people in re-education camps to erase their "Whiteness."

    The top people, the Pelosis, the Clintons, the Bidens, the Schumers, will not be impacted by this at all nor will their kids/grandkids. They will come out just fine, exceptions like Merrick Garland's daughter clerking for the Supremes will always be made for big shots. The lower elites, the Hedge Fund Managers, the FBI Agents, the Colonels and Majors in the Pentagon, the Marketing Director at P&G, they will find their kids will have no future just like the Sex Pistols promised.

    This guarantees conflict, as the elites will split among themselves. The Supremes MANDATING as they will CRT in schools and no Whites need apply to College is going to cause conflict. The Supremes will mandate it, if nothing else to avoid court packing. But also because they swim in ultra elite waters and that is what the ultra elites want: total and continual discrimination against Whites as genetically evil. Otherwise you'd never heard of Kendi.

    But Conflict was GUARANTEED from the moment Civil Rights appeared. There was never going to be enough elite positions to distribute to blacks without hurting eventually elite Whites who will push back particularly for their kids. If Felicity Huffman would go to great lengths to get her dumb daughter into USC, what will the above lower tier elites do for their kids? Will they sacrifice their kids for black ones? To ask is to answer it.

    So, no one should be wishcasting. Confict is upon us, guaranteed, it wll be long, ugly, brutal, degrading, and with many, many costs.

    Replies: @James Speaks

    So what’s your point?

  207. Anonymous[403] • Disclaimer says:
    @Redman
    Good piece Steve. But a bit naive I think.

    I am a lawyer and my remaining faith in judges upholding the “rule of law” or Constitutional principles has nearly evaporated.

    You say the courts should argue “two wrongs don’t make a right.” But Obama’s top lawyer was one Eric Holder, who once famously said “when they go low, we go lower.” The majority of lawyers supported Obama and Holder, particularly the younger ones. Caldwell may not be a lawyer, but he was definitely onto something.

    Replies: @Ben tillman, @Anonymous

    I am a lawyer and my remaining faith in judges upholding the “rule of law” or Constitutional principles has nearly evaporated.

    What have you observed, specifically, that has shaken your faith?

  208. @Anonymous
    @Jack D


    some arms of the Federal gov. bureaucracy in DC (e.g. staff of the Dept. of Education) are very heavily black.

     

    Agree. If you go to the massive Dept. of Agriculture building in D.C. or the massive Dept. of Ag campus in Greenbelt she will see a clear majority of obese black women and a parking lot full of late-model Mercedes and Lexuses. Same thing at Dept. of Homeland Security, FEMA, Dept. of Energy, HUD, HHS, OPM, et al., in D.C. The only white males you see are either flamboyantly gay or nerdy (tech guy or scientist if at Energy) or middle-age rednecky guys with U.S. Army or Air Force lanyards.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    If the Federal Government (AKA USG) were to be shrunk by a mere 10%, it would have catastrophic consequences for the black community.

    FY 1950:

    https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/library/public-papers/8/annual-budget-message-congress-fiscal-year-1950

    To support this program, the Budget provides for expenditures of 41.9 billion dollars for the fiscal year 1950, about 1.7 billion dollars above the requirements for the present year. Under existing law and with continuing high levels of economic activity, revenues for the fiscal year would be 41 billion dollars. This would result in an estimated deficit of 873 million dollars.

    In a period of high prosperity it is not sound public policy for the Government to operate at a deficit.

    2021:

    https://www.cbo.gov/topics/budget

    BUDGET PROJECTIONS FOR FY 2021
    (As of July 1, 2021 )

    OUTLAYS

    $6.8 Trillion

    REVENUES

    $3.8 Trillion

    DEFICIT

    $3.0 Trillion

    DEBT HELD BY THE PUBLIC (End of Fiscal Year) $23.0 Trillion

  209. @Paperback Writer
    @Art Deco

    I've no idea who your "grand-daddy" was. If you're saying he was a rich Southern gent, well, he had more and better opportunities to speak out against colored water fountains than poor whites did, and some ability to influence things. They had none.

    I disagree with you about the characterizations in TKaM, it's pretty obvious that Lee considered them barely human, otherwise why kill the father and present that as justice, rather than a continuation of the brutality that was done to them, in the brutal system of Southern class apartheid?

    But that's not really what Lind was saying. His point was far larger than one book, and since you don't want to discuss that, I consider this conversation at an impasse.

    Replies: @ATBOTL, @Art Deco

    Art Deco is an elderly neocon troll. Nothing he says is in good faith.

  210. @Polistra
    "Australian Couple"
    "Melbourne Couple"

    Melbourne couple put behind bars for enslaving elderly woman for 8 years
    A couple who kept an Indian grandmother as a house slave for eight years have been jailed by a Melbourne court, with the presiding judge expressing astonishment over the pair’s lack of remorse for their heinous crime.

    Kumuthini Kannan, 53, was sentenced to eight years in prison by the Supreme Court of Victoria, while her husband, Kandasamy, 57, will spend six years behind bars. He received a lighter sentence because the court determined he suffered from a weak character and had been dominated by his wife. Mr. Kannan will be eligible for parole in three years, and his wife can apply for early release after serving half her sentence.

    The grandmother had traveled from India to Australia to stay at the Kannans’ residence in July 2007, believing she had been hired to take care of the couple’s children. Instead, she was kept as a slave and tortured for not obeying commands. The elderly victim told the court the couple had once beaten her with a frozen chicken, forced her to work up to 23 hours a day, and would pour hot water on her head if she fell asleep without permission. Her enslavement lasted for eight years and was discovered only after she required emergency medical treatment.

    https://www.rt.com/news/529788-melbourne-couple-india-slave-prison-australia/
     

    Emphasis added, of course. "Makes Us Stronger!"

    Replies: @BB753

    “He received a lighter sentence because the court determined he suffered from a weak character and had been dominated by his wife”

    Wait, when did the Indian heteropatriarchy capitulate? So, bossy Indian women aren’t a racist myth?

  211. anonymous[316] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Rational
    @anonymous


    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard.
     
    That part of the black "middle class" is fake.  It is not based on ability or work, but on quotas and entitlement.  It is dysgenic and dyscivilizational.

    Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don’t have a middle class to guide them.
     
    Let me say right here that I have no fucks left to give about blacks, but they would be much better off if their guidance came from legitimate successes rather than bad apples promoted far outside their competence for the sake of "optics".

    Replies: @anonymous

    You sound like you have a lot of racial animosity towards blacks.

    • LOL: Hangnail Hans
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @anonymous

    I recognize the TRUTH about blacks.

  212. In another possible world, maybe

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  213. anon[353] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @SafeNow


    Brown vs. Board was 9-0, with the opinion written by the chief justice. These factors greatly enhanced its moral and legal authority.
     
    Brown was a mess. May well turn out to be the worst decision--in its effects that the Supremes every dumped on us.

    If Cold War politics decreed an end to government segregation, they could have just done that. Decreed that while, of course, people were free to organize their private affairs however they liked, that the government could not racially discriminate in its programs.

    That would have been
    -- understandable to people
    -- a clear constitutional principle--although not what the 14th amendment actually said
    -- given southern states a clear direction--vouchers/educational choice--if white parents wanted to keep their kids out of heavily black schools/classrooms
    -- given us a decision--wrapped up in the flag and "history"--that would protect Americans from a lot of the minoritarian legal/political thuggery down the road.

    Instead we got a lot of (highly dubious) social-science driven mumbo-jumbo about segregation itself inducing inferiority, harming black self-esteem (LOL) ... and basically that it was whites' job to fix it. I.e. white people had to integrate with blacks for the benefit of blacks. "Integration" was some sort of law or the land. ("Civil rights" ... busing ... "affirmative action" ... "diversity"

    In other words: minoritarianism had its foot in the door. An opening to minoritarianism--that minoritarians have kept pushing on and on and on. (Busing ... "Civil Rights" ... "affirmative action" ... "disparate impact" ... "diversity is our greatest strength" ... homosexual marriage ... open borders ... "transgender" nonsense ... )

    The white majority must sacrifice its goals and desires, first its schools, neighborhoods ... then its jobs ... then its physical safety ... then its culture, its nation ... its civilization and existence as a people ... to accommodate precious oppressed minorities.


    Funny thing: blacks don't even want to integrate. They really don't want to be "white bread". Probably even more so than Jews (a mixed bag on that score). They like being black and don't want to change.

    This, of course, isn't that odd. Minorities tend to have strong affinity for their minority group/norms/behavior/culture ... or they wouldn't still be a minority, they'd have integrated already. Catholics still have their Catholic schools. The Golfocaust is long over, but Jews still have their Jewish clubs, and still do their ethnic networking. Schooling their kids and socializing (inc. churching) (leading toward marriage/reproduction) is, of course, where people most cling to their own.

    But the principle of minoritarianism is not actually "integration", but that the white gentile majority can't be allowed to have stuff of their own.


    Brown was a disaster. It didn't create minoritarianism--that push and propaganda--was coming anyway. But it could have made minoritarianism's rise much tougher. Instead it made it much easier. America deserved better.

    Replies: @anon, @Corvinus, @Jack D

    Funny thing: blacks don’t even want to integrate. They really don’t want to be “white bread”. They like being black and don’t want to change.

    Blacks may not want to integrate with Whites (although black males seem to have a taste for White women), but Jews definitely want blacks to integrate with Whites (or Whites with blacks).

  214. @Paperback Writer
    @AnotherDad


    . Give parents the financial heft to pick the educational option for their kids. That gets around much of the CRT propaganda issue.
     
    Theoretically, yes, but what do you make of this? The lady is suing a charter school.

    https://www.nevadacurrent.com/2021/01/21/las-vegas-charter-school-sued-for-curriculum-covering-race-identity/

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Theoretically, yes, but what do you make of this? The lady is suing a charter school.

    https://www.nevadacurrent.com/2021/01/21/las-vegas-charter-school-sued-for-curriculum-covering-race-identity/

    I make of it, that:
    a) we have a lot of unnecessary legal b.s. that goes on; a huge percentage of because of minoritarianism

    b) we’d have a lot more social peace, including a bit less of aforesaid legal b.s. if we a had a fully developed private K-12 educational market; which we would have with vouchers.

    If we had vouchers there would already be lots of more traditional/conservative options available for precisely the sort of parents (white, sane) fighting against CRT.

    And actually we’d have more than just that, we’d have more effective educational options. The Fordist model we have now, while not terrible, is not the be all and end all of education. With computers and the Internet there’s tremendous opportunity for innovation, including individual tailoring of education.

    My actual teaching experience is limited to college level, but if i was running a school i’d have a lot more computer driven individual instruction and a lot more hands on–physical toys, labs, shop (wood, metal, electrical, computers), home ec, athletics and sports, rifle range, hikes, kayaking, camping … plus have the students and teachers doing cleaning and maintenance. AnotherDad school would be awesome and all graduates would understand HBD, eugenic fertility and that marriage and children is the bedrock of both civilization and individual life-long happiness/connectedness

  215. @Anonymous
    One piece of good news I woke up to today. The U.S. women’s soccer team got shellacked and shut out by Sweden 3-0.


    https://media.nbcnewyork.com/2021/07/Web-210721-sweden-soccer-usa-today.jpg
    Sweden team is attractive… and they look like women

     



    https://conservativefighters.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Untitle88d-4-2-1000x600.jpg
    U.S. women’s soccer team wearing ‘Black Lives Matter’ shirts

     

    Replies: @anon, @Sick of Orcs, @AnotherDad

    “Soccer hot” has a low bar, but compared to USA’s anti-White freakazoids the Swedes are sirens.

  216. @El Dato
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Also, "synthesis" does not necessarily mean "middle ground". It can mean "one of the several extremes".

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Correct. The “gain of function” qualities of any given synthesis can be hard to predict.

  217. @Anonymous
    One piece of good news I woke up to today. The U.S. women’s soccer team got shellacked and shut out by Sweden 3-0.


    https://media.nbcnewyork.com/2021/07/Web-210721-sweden-soccer-usa-today.jpg
    Sweden team is attractive… and they look like women

     



    https://conservativefighters.co/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Untitle88d-4-2-1000x600.jpg
    U.S. women’s soccer team wearing ‘Black Lives Matter’ shirts

     

    Replies: @anon, @Sick of Orcs, @AnotherDad

    Foul.

    Not the Swedes–the Swedish gals look like normal healthy young women–but the Americans. I’d say two of the women might have some character–not taking a knee–except they’re also wearing BLM shirts. Male athletes are bad enough. These are lemmings. Not a single decent woman in the bunch. America doesn’t seem to raise many women of character anymore. (And unfortunately fewer men of character as well.)

    • Replies: @Ola
    @AnotherDad

    The Swedish team took the knee too. And they are about 50 % lesbians. I was hoping they would lose, but, sure, the US team might be worse.

  218. @Paperback Writer
    @International Jew

    Don't exaggerate. Johnson was a bit more than a clerical worker. In any case you're proving my point for me: when she was competing with blacks, she was top rank. If she'd been competing with whites, even white women, she'd have been no big deal.

    And my point about Blackwell and Von Neumann was that as brilliant as Blackwell was, after 10 minutes explaining his work to VN, he admitted that VN knew more about the subject than he did.

    Replies: @International Jew

    after 10 minutes explaining his work to VN, he admitted that VN knew more about the subject than he did.

    Yeah, but that’s just the kind of thing everyone used to say about von Neumann . The best mathematicians of his generation were in awe of him.

    Katherine Johnson was doing for NASA what other “computers” (as the job was called) were doing at insurance companies working out the appropriate premium for people of different ages, a formula that has a double integral behind it, which actuaries understand but computers see as just tedious additions.

    Mathematical models stated in their general form might bristle with exotic symbols, but calculating the answer to a specific problem always boils down to the four operations everyone knows by fourth grade — addition, subtraction, multiplication and division.

    Plugging numbers into formulas is clerical work.

    Bottom line, you’re underestimating Blackwell and overestimating Johnson.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @International Jew

    Johnson had a math degree and was, for example, 2nd author on a paper on how to position a satellite:

    https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19980227091

    This was more than just adding up numbers on a desk calculator. But OTOH, it was nothing groundbreaking - it was just a workman like effort and had she been a white male it would not have been notable at all. Newton deserves all the credit for discovering the laws of motion and of universal gravitation and all Johnson's paper did was apply those laws to a particular situation. She is to Newton as a flea is to an elephant.

    But (probably unlike many of her fellow "computers") she actually knew what those numbers were that she was adding up (and was eventually promoted over to the white people's building and didn't have to sit all day and just add up numbers). When she was over there, she used the white ladies toilet, partly because no one who worked for NASA cared about this segregation stuff anymore and partly because most people must have assumed that she was white since she was the kind of "black" person who probably had 75% European genes.

    https://media.wired.com/photos/5e5806de60bd940009fcac37/master/w_1600,c_limit/Science_KatherineJohnson_627024524.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @Paperback Writer

    , @Paperback Writer
    @International Jew


    Bottom line, you’re underestimating Blackwell and overestimating Johnson.

     

    Absolutely not underestimating Blackwell. I'm merely pointing out that in a segregated society, he'd have been the top guy. When competing with whites/Jews, he was 2nd tier (compared to VN, Einstein, etc.) A genius but not a magician.

    And, as Jack D pointed out, a mere clerk doesn't understand what she's doing, Johnson did.

    I really don't understand what your nitpicking is about. My point, made several times with great patience (and now for the final time) was that she was a beneficiary, and not a victim, of racial segregation, in that during her formative years, she didn't have to compete with whites. The walls of segregation came down after she got her degrees and was a fully formed adult. So she got the best of both worlds.

    That's true of an entire generation of accomplished blacks. For them, segregation afforded what we now call a "safe space." During Jim Crow, they ruled over other blacks. When segregation was ended, they had the skills to compete with whites so they did OK. Not so with poor, uneducated blacks. They had no skills, no education, nothing to fall back upon, and they were expected to compete with whites. Disaster.

    Today's black "intellectuals" are the exact opposite of the old colored elite: coddled and enabled. They rightly sense that their achievements are due to their race, and they hate whites for it.

    And Johnson never suffered for her sex, as Emmy Noether did. Now, that was a genuine female genius who was truly discriminated against. She competed with the greats and more than held her own.

  219. @Nicholas Stix
    @Jack D

    What about the Haitian Genocide?

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2018/02/it-aint-pretty-truth-about-haiti.html

    Replies: @Jack D

    Haiti was the exception and no other black country has tried to emulate them because the results were so clearly disastrous, not just for the white planters but for the blacks themselves. Haiti is an object lesson, even for blacks, in what NOT to do.

    Although of course the Woke POV is that Haiti is a shithole because the French made the Haitians pay reparations afterward. If it wasn’t for those reparation payments, Haiti would be Wakanda by now. Even if there are no white people in sight, whatever blacks do to each other is always white people’s fault anyway. White people were also (somehow) responsible for the Rwandan genocide. Macron begs the people of Rwanda to forgive France.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57270099

    Bad juju is like radio – it involves action at a distance.

  220. @International Jew
    @Paperback Writer


    after 10 minutes explaining his work to VN, he admitted that VN knew more about the subject than he did.
     
    Yeah, but that's just the kind of thing everyone used to say about von Neumann . The best mathematicians of his generation were in awe of him.

    Katherine Johnson was doing for NASA what other "computers" (as the job was called) were doing at insurance companies working out the appropriate premium for people of different ages, a formula that has a double integral behind it, which actuaries understand but computers see as just tedious additions.

    Mathematical models stated in their general form might bristle with exotic symbols, but calculating the answer to a specific problem always boils down to the four operations everyone knows by fourth grade — addition, subtraction, multiplication and division.


    Plugging numbers into formulas is clerical work.


    Bottom line, you're underestimating Blackwell and overestimating Johnson.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Paperback Writer

    Johnson had a math degree and was, for example, 2nd author on a paper on how to position a satellite:

    https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19980227091

    This was more than just adding up numbers on a desk calculator. But OTOH, it was nothing groundbreaking – it was just a workman like effort and had she been a white male it would not have been notable at all. Newton deserves all the credit for discovering the laws of motion and of universal gravitation and all Johnson’s paper did was apply those laws to a particular situation. She is to Newton as a flea is to an elephant.

    But (probably unlike many of her fellow “computers”) she actually knew what those numbers were that she was adding up (and was eventually promoted over to the white people’s building and didn’t have to sit all day and just add up numbers). When she was over there, she used the white ladies toilet, partly because no one who worked for NASA cared about this segregation stuff anymore and partly because most people must have assumed that she was white since she was the kind of “black” person who probably had 75% European genes.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @Mr. Rational
    @Jack D

    Likely more than 75% White.  I'd guess closer to 93.75% White.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    , @Paperback Writer
    @Jack D


    (and was eventually promoted over to the white people’s building and didn’t have to sit all day and just add up numbers)
     
    NASA was never segregated. NACA, the predecessor, was.
  221. @Paperback Writer
    @Art Deco


    (1) They won’t be ‘worse’ at all. Blacks in salaried employment or operating small businesses don’t live in the slum districts where all the social problems are. With some exceptions (clergymen, undertakers), they don’t work there either.
     
    They'll be worse off without quotas because they will have to compete with others on a level playing field. See: Gottfredson. Some other commenter did a good job of recapping her findings. Search for it.

    (2) The components of the black bourgeoisie which have the most direct contact with feral young people are schoolteachers, school administrators, social workers, clergymen, police officers, and public defenders.

     

    So what? That's true of white SJWs, and other Goodwhites, and it doesn't change their opinions an iota. In any case I fail to see the relevance to the issue of black competitiveness.

    (3) There was a black middle class prior to 1966. They actually lived and worked among other strata of the black population.
     
    Here we get to the heart of the matter. It amazes me how you're able to cite facts and then miss the essence. Prior to 1966 blacks mainly competed with other blacks in a society segregated by custom and law.

    This was bad for many blacks but great for the elite. Someone like Katherine Johnson or David Blackwell (look him up) were the top of the pyramid. Have them compete with whites and they're good, but not great. (Look up the story about Blackwell and John Von Neumann.)

    This worked all down the line - middling successful blacks, competing with Everyone Else, would not be middling - they'd be lower class, possibly working poor.

    So what was your point?

    Replies: @International Jew, @Jack D

    Look up the story about Blackwell and John Von Neumann.

    This is unfair because Von Neumann was a once in a generation genius – he was literally the smartest man on earth. Chances are that if he spent ten minutes talking to you about any (mathematical) subject, at the end of 10 minutes he would understand it better than you did, regardless of what color you were. Feynman was like this also. He was the spoiler of many a dissertation because a student would come in with what he thought was a suitably difficult and new research worthy problem and Feynman would solve it on the spot (for a particularly difficult problem he might take overnight).

    But you are right in the sense that there never has been a black von Neumann and there probably never will be.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    @Jack D

    Fellow Martian Edward Teller summed it up best with Von Neumann by saying that he wondered if Von Neumann talked to similarly to the rest of humanity, himself included, in the same way he explained concepts to Teller's three year old son. Without an iota of condescension, I might add. (Rule #1 when teaching kids...) You'll come across people in academic math and physics who go out of their way to flaunt their "genius". Von Neumann-a real genius-was never like that. He genuinely loved helping people learn.

    In addition to his mental horsepower, Von Neumann was also incredibly versatile, not just in the sense of contributing to multiple fields but in terms of making connections between them. This is an underrated skill in the age of hyper-specialization.

  222. @Torn and Frayed
    Are blacks and affirmative action really the cause of white malaise? Have blacks grabbed cultural dominance and by applying intellectual and moral leadership are now liquidating or at least subjugating whites? If it is actually true that a group with an average IQ of 85 and are dividing and destroying whites while building and blossoming their own allied group alliances, well then I have to say this is Darwin's way of telling whites they are unworthy of surviving, at least in America.

    Perhaps blacks as the agent of white malaise is wrong. For whites I certainly hope so. Did blacks ship masses of mobile capital to China in order to build the factories that make the rope with which to hang white workers? Were Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand, the two ideologues most responsible for open borders, and libertarian-induced white malaise, really of African descent? Are blacks really the financial, media, and political hegemons? Again, if so, whitey deserves his evolutionary fate.

    No, luckily for whites, it is not blacks but hyperwhites who are the historical agents of white malaise. White resistance should aim upwards, and look for useful idiot allies downwards. Whites should learn to exaggerate black demands and to turn blacks against the hyperwhites at every turn. Affimative action, black privilege, etc, should not only be encouraged, it must be applied to hyperwhite institutions such as Wall Street and Hollywood. In fact the entire woke movement is increasingly pozzing centers of hyperwhite power. The clueless wokesters are doing more to undermine hyperwhite power than boomer badwhite system enhancing "resistance" is. It would be better for the Supreme Court to officially proclaim whites as an enemy class and then have badwhite / black resistance apply this to hyperwhite institutions. Hyperwhites haveunleashed this cancer, it is not the job of badwhites to self sacrifice as a form of chemotherapy. Let wokeness and the cultural Frankenstein's monster it spawns rip until it takes the hyperwhite institutional power down with it.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Yancey Ward, @Lurker, @Eric Novak

    No, it’s affirmative action for 100,000,000 Third World immigrants and their American-born descendants added to the population in 30 years that’s responsible for white malaise.

  223. @anonymous
    @Mr. Rational

    You sound like you have a lot of racial animosity towards blacks.

    Replies: @Mr. Rational

    I recognize the TRUTH about blacks.

  224. @Jack D
    @International Jew

    Johnson had a math degree and was, for example, 2nd author on a paper on how to position a satellite:

    https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19980227091

    This was more than just adding up numbers on a desk calculator. But OTOH, it was nothing groundbreaking - it was just a workman like effort and had she been a white male it would not have been notable at all. Newton deserves all the credit for discovering the laws of motion and of universal gravitation and all Johnson's paper did was apply those laws to a particular situation. She is to Newton as a flea is to an elephant.

    But (probably unlike many of her fellow "computers") she actually knew what those numbers were that she was adding up (and was eventually promoted over to the white people's building and didn't have to sit all day and just add up numbers). When she was over there, she used the white ladies toilet, partly because no one who worked for NASA cared about this segregation stuff anymore and partly because most people must have assumed that she was white since she was the kind of "black" person who probably had 75% European genes.

    https://media.wired.com/photos/5e5806de60bd940009fcac37/master/w_1600,c_limit/Science_KatherineJohnson_627024524.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @Paperback Writer

    Likely more than 75% White.  I’d guess closer to 93.75% White.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    @Mr. Rational

    The colored gentry were almost all overwhelmingly European in origin.

    Now some of their great-grandkids whose grandparents "passed" are doing the public expiation thing. It's really nauseating. This woman's descent from Sally Hemings is probably imaginary:

    https://www.monticello.org/getting-word/people/jillian-atkin-sim

    Her grandmother:

    https://pages.vassar.edu/library/files/2014/02/Vassarion-1927-Love.jpg

    She's descended from a "Hemmings" but not *that* Hemings:

    https://pages.vassar.edu/library/2014/02/first-black-students/

  225. @Jack D
    @International Jew

    Johnson had a math degree and was, for example, 2nd author on a paper on how to position a satellite:

    https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19980227091

    This was more than just adding up numbers on a desk calculator. But OTOH, it was nothing groundbreaking - it was just a workman like effort and had she been a white male it would not have been notable at all. Newton deserves all the credit for discovering the laws of motion and of universal gravitation and all Johnson's paper did was apply those laws to a particular situation. She is to Newton as a flea is to an elephant.

    But (probably unlike many of her fellow "computers") she actually knew what those numbers were that she was adding up (and was eventually promoted over to the white people's building and didn't have to sit all day and just add up numbers). When she was over there, she used the white ladies toilet, partly because no one who worked for NASA cared about this segregation stuff anymore and partly because most people must have assumed that she was white since she was the kind of "black" person who probably had 75% European genes.

    https://media.wired.com/photos/5e5806de60bd940009fcac37/master/w_1600,c_limit/Science_KatherineJohnson_627024524.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Rational, @Paperback Writer

    (and was eventually promoted over to the white people’s building and didn’t have to sit all day and just add up numbers)

    NASA was never segregated. NACA, the predecessor, was.

  226. @International Jew
    @Paperback Writer


    after 10 minutes explaining his work to VN, he admitted that VN knew more about the subject than he did.
     
    Yeah, but that's just the kind of thing everyone used to say about von Neumann . The best mathematicians of his generation were in awe of him.

    Katherine Johnson was doing for NASA what other "computers" (as the job was called) were doing at insurance companies working out the appropriate premium for people of different ages, a formula that has a double integral behind it, which actuaries understand but computers see as just tedious additions.

    Mathematical models stated in their general form might bristle with exotic symbols, but calculating the answer to a specific problem always boils down to the four operations everyone knows by fourth grade — addition, subtraction, multiplication and division.


    Plugging numbers into formulas is clerical work.


    Bottom line, you're underestimating Blackwell and overestimating Johnson.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Paperback Writer

    Bottom line, you’re underestimating Blackwell and overestimating Johnson.

    Absolutely not underestimating Blackwell. I’m merely pointing out that in a segregated society, he’d have been the top guy. When competing with whites/Jews, he was 2nd tier (compared to VN, Einstein, etc.) A genius but not a magician.

    And, as Jack D pointed out, a mere clerk doesn’t understand what she’s doing, Johnson did.

    I really don’t understand what your nitpicking is about. My point, made several times with great patience (and now for the final time) was that she was a beneficiary, and not a victim, of racial segregation, in that during her formative years, she didn’t have to compete with whites. The walls of segregation came down after she got her degrees and was a fully formed adult. So she got the best of both worlds.

    That’s true of an entire generation of accomplished blacks. For them, segregation afforded what we now call a “safe space.” During Jim Crow, they ruled over other blacks. When segregation was ended, they had the skills to compete with whites so they did OK. Not so with poor, uneducated blacks. They had no skills, no education, nothing to fall back upon, and they were expected to compete with whites. Disaster.

    Today’s black “intellectuals” are the exact opposite of the old colored elite: coddled and enabled. They rightly sense that their achievements are due to their race, and they hate whites for it.

    And Johnson never suffered for her sex, as Emmy Noether did. Now, that was a genuine female genius who was truly discriminated against. She competed with the greats and more than held her own.

  227. @Mr. Rational
    @Jack D

    Likely more than 75% White.  I'd guess closer to 93.75% White.

    Replies: @Paperback Writer

    The colored gentry were almost all overwhelmingly European in origin.

    Now some of their great-grandkids whose grandparents “passed” are doing the public expiation thing. It’s really nauseating. This woman’s descent from Sally Hemings is probably imaginary:

    https://www.monticello.org/getting-word/people/jillian-atkin-sim

    Her grandmother:

    She’s descended from a “Hemmings” but not *that* Hemings:

    https://pages.vassar.edu/library/2014/02/first-black-students/

  228. @Jack D
    @Paperback Writer


    Look up the story about Blackwell and John Von Neumann.
     
    This is unfair because Von Neumann was a once in a generation genius - he was literally the smartest man on earth. Chances are that if he spent ten minutes talking to you about any (mathematical) subject, at the end of 10 minutes he would understand it better than you did, regardless of what color you were. Feynman was like this also. He was the spoiler of many a dissertation because a student would come in with what he thought was a suitably difficult and new research worthy problem and Feynman would solve it on the spot (for a particularly difficult problem he might take overnight).

    But you are right in the sense that there never has been a black von Neumann and there probably never will be.

    Replies: @nebulafox

    Fellow Martian Edward Teller summed it up best with Von Neumann by saying that he wondered if Von Neumann talked to similarly to the rest of humanity, himself included, in the same way he explained concepts to Teller’s three year old son. Without an iota of condescension, I might add. (Rule #1 when teaching kids…) You’ll come across people in academic math and physics who go out of their way to flaunt their “genius”. Von Neumann-a real genius-was never like that. He genuinely loved helping people learn.

    In addition to his mental horsepower, Von Neumann was also incredibly versatile, not just in the sense of contributing to multiple fields but in terms of making connections between them. This is an underrated skill in the age of hyper-specialization.

  229. @Federalist
    If the Supreme Court enforces the civil rights of white people, the country will be held together peacefully.

    If I grow wings, I can fly.

    CivNats are impossible to deal with.

    Replies: @SimplePseudonymicHandle

    I like your pseudonym – in there lies the answer – and I agree with the first two points.

    The 3rd on CivNats requires some explanation.

    Otherwise though: yes.
    Sometimes – to the degree the “other side” is thinking about this at all, they are basically passing the buck and praying someone else will take the heat. It’s the same thing going on as Manchin and Sinema on the filibuster. We are to understand a majority of Democratic senators want to be rid of the filibuster? No – they are hiding comfortably behind Manchin and Sinema.

    Killing Kendiism? – Politically impossible in the Democratic party – privately they say “thanks” for a conservative majority SCOTUS.

  230. @Paperback Writer
    @Art Deco

    I've no idea who your "grand-daddy" was. If you're saying he was a rich Southern gent, well, he had more and better opportunities to speak out against colored water fountains than poor whites did, and some ability to influence things. They had none.

    I disagree with you about the characterizations in TKaM, it's pretty obvious that Lee considered them barely human, otherwise why kill the father and present that as justice, rather than a continuation of the brutality that was done to them, in the brutal system of Southern class apartheid?

    But that's not really what Lind was saying. His point was far larger than one book, and since you don't want to discuss that, I consider this conversation at an impasse.

    Replies: @ATBOTL, @Art Deco

    I disagree with you about the characterizations in TKaM, it’s pretty obvious that Lee considered them barely human, otherwise why kill the father and present that as justice,

    The patriarch of the lumpen clan is killed in the narrative by a local resident as said patriarch was attempting to kill a 13 year old youth (who received a severe injury in the course of the attempt to kill him). The Sheriff understands it as a justifiable homicide, which of course it is. He elects to file a false police report to protect the privacy of the recluse who killed the man.

    I’ve no idea who your “grand-daddy” was. If you’re saying he was a rich Southern gent, well, he had more and better opportunities to speak out against colored water fountains than poor whites did, and some ability to influence things. They had none.

    My grand-daddy was an ordinary suburban bourgeois, the son of an ordinary small-town bourgeois. He had no interest in ‘speaking out’ against ‘colored water fountains’. He was very civically engaged, but that sort of thing did not interest him. He had no more ‘opportunity’ than did anyone else to do so. He was responsible for his own bad attitudes, not for anyone else’s.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    I understand what you are saying. Most people just want a quiet life. No one is obligated to become an "activist". Most people just accept their society as it is. Segregation was a fact of life in the South in the same way that hot humid summer weather was. The average person had the same amount of power to change one as the other.

    All that being said, who WAS responsible for Jim Crow? It's like postwar Germany - somehow none of the Germans that you met had ever been Nazis.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  231. @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous

    Foul.

    Not the Swedes--the Swedish gals look like normal healthy young women--but the Americans. I'd say two of the women might have some character--not taking a knee--except they're also wearing BLM shirts. Male athletes are bad enough. These are lemmings. Not a single decent woman in the bunch. America doesn't seem to raise many women of character anymore. (And unfortunately fewer men of character as well.)

    Replies: @Ola

    The Swedish team took the knee too. And they are about 50 % lesbians. I was hoping they would lose, but, sure, the US team might be worse.

  232. My prescription — Upgrade to Second-Class Civil Rights — Pay for What You Take.

    – One can either be fair to everyone or equalize group outcomes, but not both. To equalize group outcomes individuals must be discriminated against.

    – “Diversity”, “inclusion” and “equity” are excuses to discriminate. At best, they are licenses to cheat, but not licenses to steal. Those who actually lost an opportunity should be compensated just as blacks who suffer from actual discrimination. Just as contested condemnation of real estate for the good of the community means if the state wins its case, it still must pay for the value of the property lost.

    – A ‘Truth in Discrimination’ disclosure would be required. The pledge “We will not discriminate on the basis of race, gender, etc.” is merely an articulation of gross civil rights, not the net rights actually delivered. Institutions will need to affirmatively state the ‘sacred ground’ that will be honored, when they will not discriminate. No vague assertions about only discriminating when compelled to do so.

    – Put the discrimination at the end of the evaluation process. Don’t headhunt for “diversity” at the beginning of the process. Add the D/I/E bonus points at the last step in the process. That way we can tell if one individual was actually denied the opportunity and should be compensated.

    – The approach allows discrimination against a group without taking it all out on a single individual. This is an anti-racism approach because losing a job because of one’s race will tend to encourage vitriol against the race of the favored applicant. Why create a bigot when a $25,000 payoff can soften the blow of overt discrimination.

    Pay for what you take.

    • Agree: Mr. Rational
    • Replies: @anon
    @eddy wobegon

    Pay for what you take.

    And a unicorn. Don't forget the unicorn pony!

    Bakke says "hi".

    Replies: @eddy wobegon

  233. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Not really.

    Hollywood traditionally made the FBI and the Marines the good guys and often made the CIA the bad guys, so in the 1990s the CIA sent Chase Brandon to Hollywood to help get movies made in which the CIA is the good guys. I reviewed the first movie to come out of this effort around 2002, with Al Pacino and that Irish kid who was supposed to be the next huge star.

    So, no, Ben Affleck is not a CIA agent. His movie Argo is based on a story that the CIA wanted told and he got some tours of CIA headquarters and the like to help him get in character, but basically it was the same thing the FBI has been doing with movie makers since maybe the 1930s.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Corvinus, @Corvinus

    JohnnyWalker123’s conspiracy theory is similar to your statement that whites do not have civil rights. Of course American whites have civil rights, as we are citizens who have due process and equal protection under the law.

    “This got me thinking about how the Supreme Court could play a role in saving the United States of America from breaking apart due to the surging tide of antiwhite racist hate emanating from many of its most powerful institutions.”

    So you take a false premise and create an argument–mind you, without any specific legal rationale because that is not your area of expertise–based on that false premise that essentially touts judicial activism, which I thought was a big n0-no among conservatives.

    Judicial restraint argues the Constitution entrusts broad issues of the general welfare to the jurisdiction of the executive and legislative branches. In effect, judicial activism ultimately undermines public respect for an intervening Supreme Court. Judicial activism counters the courts were established as an independent branch and have the right to make new interpretations from existing laws when there is a compelling societal need, even if this action leads to direct confrontation with elected officials.

    Judicial activism and judicial restraint lies in the extent to which a judge is willing to depart from the wording of the law and contest the will of the majority. Now, Mr. Sailer, if you are willing to compromise your own principles, then essentially you are no different than those who you denounce. The problem remains of reconciling the American democratic heritage with an active policymaking role for the judiciary. Please NOTICE that the federal courts employ a “doctrine of political questions” to avoid deciding those cases that involve conflicts between the executive and judicial branches. The problem recently has been Democrats and Republicans alike in the past 20 years circumventing this process by “packing the court” with toadie ideologues.

    “The Supreme Court should announce that the era of it permitting violations of the 14th Amendment’s equal protection clause by tolerating discrimination against whites is coming to a close.”

    LOL, you embarrass yourself. The Supreme Court has issued rulings that protects whites from racial animus. The 9 cannot simply make an announcement like a K-Mart blue light special. Because feelings.

    The U.S. Supreme Court has decades-old precedent about what is permissible when it comes to programs that promote inclusion and diversity. Companies are allowed to put in place proactive plans to address areas where there have been racial inequality issues, as long as they do not have an exclusionary effect on a White or male person. In recent years, Title VII claims have increasingly been litigated by white defendants, and for good reason. Successful reverse discrimination lawsuits on behalf of our race is other than a novel concept.

    https://www.xperthr.com/news/employers-should-be-careful-not-to-engage-in-reverse-discrimination/9311/

    https://www.flastergreenberg.com/experience-Former_Philadelphia_School_District_Employees_Win_2_96_Million_Reverse_Race_Discrimination_Verdict.html

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-finds-yale-illegally-discriminates-against-asians-and-whites-undergraduate

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/white-men-challenge-workplace-diversity-efforts-1521036001

    Former Google engineer James Damore, for example, filed a discrimination lawsuit after he was fired for criticizing the company’s diversity policies in a 3,000-word memo that, in part, detailed the biological differences between sexes that he claimed made men better suited for the industry. He ultimately dropped that lawsuit in May.

    Another lawsuit claims former Google and YouTube recruiter Arne Wilberg was unlawfully fired because he didn’t reject white and Asian male job candidates, which he said the company pressured him and other recruits to do for diversity purposes. The company denied it has such a policy. The dispute was sent to arbitration.

    In an October 2019 lawsuit, which is ongoing, store manager Shannon Phillips alleged that, as a result of the inclusion efforts, she and other White employees who weren’t involved in the incident were punished and Black staff members present during the conflict weren’t. She says her termination was motivated by the arrests and bad publicity the company received and sued for discrimination based on her race as a White person.

    “Other notions: Disparate impact analysis should also be extended to immigration policies that have the effect of changing the ethnic and thus partisan balance of the electorate”.

    Then you would have to change the law, as it deals exclusively with employer policies and practices. The Supreme Court would agree that a person bringing forth this type of suit you suggest lacks legal standing. You would get laughed out of the court room.

    “The mantra “Diversity is our strength,” as Dan Quayle claimed, is not part of the Constitution. Instead, it is an empirical assertion that must be subjected to strict scrutiny when it is offered as an excuse for racial discrimination.”

    You do realize that the Supreme Court takes into account the prevailing social attitudes of the time frame when guiding their legal rationales, right?

    https://www.theday.com/article/20191022/NWS13/191029853

    “One of the features of our common American culture is that you don’t have to be in the common culture. I think the framers understood that. George Washington’s famous letter to the Hebrew Congregation of Newport, Rhode Island which tells them you know you’re welcome here you’re just as American as anybody else. Although they were doubtless in what those days was an overwhelmingly Christian nation, but that didn’t matter. Part of what is America is allowing a lot of people to be outside of the common street.”

    Antonin Scalia, 10/5/2006, This Is America TV: On Being An American, Part 1

  234. @Steve Sailer
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Not really.

    Hollywood traditionally made the FBI and the Marines the good guys and often made the CIA the bad guys, so in the 1990s the CIA sent Chase Brandon to Hollywood to help get movies made in which the CIA is the good guys. I reviewed the first movie to come out of this effort around 2002, with Al Pacino and that Irish kid who was supposed to be the next huge star.

    So, no, Ben Affleck is not a CIA agent. His movie Argo is based on a story that the CIA wanted told and he got some tours of CIA headquarters and the like to help him get in character, but basically it was the same thing the FBI has been doing with movie makers since maybe the 1930s.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Corvinus, @Corvinus

    “In his 2020 book Age of Entitlement, Christopher Caldwell argues ‘The changes of the 1960s, with civil rights at their core, were not just a major new element in the Constitution. They were a rival constitution, with which the original one was frequently incompatible.”

    The United States has borne witness to countless “refoundings”, from Jacksonian Democracy to the Civil War ending slavery to the Progressive Era’s federal reform efforts to the New Deal’s interventions. Every single one of them, just like the Civil Rights “revolution”, sparked tense and even violent clashes between competing perspectives of the Constitution. In other words, there has been perpetual friction between individual liberties and the collective good. Through it all, there has been revitalization and renewal.

    The problem was that the Jim Crow South was never going to guarantee as it promised under “separate but equal” the basic liberties of half of its citizens, and thus federal power was the necessary cudgel to break state and local self-determination. Today, those past arguments of “freedom of association” and “freedom of property” have been amped up by social traditionalists. The fact of the matter is these concepts have never been absolute in our glorious history. Federal and state laws have at various times constrained them in the name of the public’s best interest, and civil rights, as originally constituted, are in the public’s best interest.

    But do not despair, Mr. Sailer. We whites will continue to get our day in court! Because, undoubtedly, there will be smarty-pants lawyers who will use anti-discrimination laws, as they do now and as they ought to in protecting our race, in unique ways in the future. Speaking of which…

  235. @RichardTaylor
    Yes! Whites must have civil rights. That would include pro-Whites or White advocates.

    This got me thinking about how the Supreme Court could play a role in saving the United States of America from breaking apart due to the surging tide of antiwhite racist hate emanating from many of its most powerful institutions.
     
    However, my people, White people, have a right to exist not because it helps save the USA or any other political construct, but simply for their own sake.

    Replies: @Polistra, @ATBOTL, @Corvinus

    And what happens when white people, my people, make their own decisions about race and culture? Do we not have the right to exist for our own sake?

  236. @Art Deco
    @Paperback Writer

    I disagree with you about the characterizations in TKaM, it’s pretty obvious that Lee considered them barely human, otherwise why kill the father and present that as justice,

    The patriarch of the lumpen clan is killed in the narrative by a local resident as said patriarch was attempting to kill a 13 year old youth (who received a severe injury in the course of the attempt to kill him). The Sheriff understands it as a justifiable homicide, which of course it is. He elects to file a false police report to protect the privacy of the recluse who killed the man.


    I’ve no idea who your “grand-daddy” was. If you’re saying he was a rich Southern gent, well, he had more and better opportunities to speak out against colored water fountains than poor whites did, and some ability to influence things. They had none.

    My grand-daddy was an ordinary suburban bourgeois, the son of an ordinary small-town bourgeois. He had no interest in 'speaking out' against 'colored water fountains'. He was very civically engaged, but that sort of thing did not interest him. He had no more 'opportunity' than did anyone else to do so. He was responsible for his own bad attitudes, not for anyone else's.

    Replies: @Jack D

    I understand what you are saying. Most people just want a quiet life. No one is obligated to become an “activist”. Most people just accept their society as it is. Segregation was a fact of life in the South in the same way that hot humid summer weather was. The average person had the same amount of power to change one as the other.

    All that being said, who WAS responsible for Jim Crow? It’s like postwar Germany – somehow none of the Germans that you met had ever been Nazis.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    The persons responsible for Jim Crow were (1) public officials working in (2) a matrix of public opinion. There was likely a spiral-of-silence preventing some white Southerners from objecting. Flannery O'Connor's public remarks on the subject are to be found in Mystery and Manners. Her own take on 'manners' and how they regulate social life can be found. She understands 'integration' as a different ecosystem of manners. The features of Jim Crow - the signs on the water fountains and what not - were a physical manifestation of the manners of the era. O'Connor wasn't a utopian at all and skewered political sectaries in "Everything that Rises Must Converge", but she had no stomach for attempting to retain segregation beyond what people do voluntarily in their daily lives.

    Note, the problem with school segregation was that systems in effect were regulated by sentiments which incorporated a notion of ritual impurity. In Virginia, to take one example, segregation applied just as much in the western part of the state as it did in Richmond, even though there were hardly any blacks in the western part of the state. Black youngsters were transported all over the place to tiny all county schools. You had unique state professional schools which were categorically closed to aspirants from 25% of a state's population. Had they been operating an honest system, they'd have made accommodations.

    However, the problems in re the schools or 'public accommodations' were of secondary interest. The two premier problems in the South were (1) the police and the courts were a mess and (2) elections administration was a mess. James Jackson Kilpatrick was a defender of segregation, but he was at peace with voting rights laws because the whole process of drawing up electoral registers in the South was so crooked.

    Replies: @Jack D

  237. @AnotherDad
    @SafeNow


    Brown vs. Board was 9-0, with the opinion written by the chief justice. These factors greatly enhanced its moral and legal authority.
     
    Brown was a mess. May well turn out to be the worst decision--in its effects that the Supremes every dumped on us.

    If Cold War politics decreed an end to government segregation, they could have just done that. Decreed that while, of course, people were free to organize their private affairs however they liked, that the government could not racially discriminate in its programs.

    That would have been
    -- understandable to people
    -- a clear constitutional principle--although not what the 14th amendment actually said
    -- given southern states a clear direction--vouchers/educational choice--if white parents wanted to keep their kids out of heavily black schools/classrooms
    -- given us a decision--wrapped up in the flag and "history"--that would protect Americans from a lot of the minoritarian legal/political thuggery down the road.

    Instead we got a lot of (highly dubious) social-science driven mumbo-jumbo about segregation itself inducing inferiority, harming black self-esteem (LOL) ... and basically that it was whites' job to fix it. I.e. white people had to integrate with blacks for the benefit of blacks. "Integration" was some sort of law or the land. ("Civil rights" ... busing ... "affirmative action" ... "diversity"

    In other words: minoritarianism had its foot in the door. An opening to minoritarianism--that minoritarians have kept pushing on and on and on. (Busing ... "Civil Rights" ... "affirmative action" ... "disparate impact" ... "diversity is our greatest strength" ... homosexual marriage ... open borders ... "transgender" nonsense ... )

    The white majority must sacrifice its goals and desires, first its schools, neighborhoods ... then its jobs ... then its physical safety ... then its culture, its nation ... its civilization and existence as a people ... to accommodate precious oppressed minorities.


    Funny thing: blacks don't even want to integrate. They really don't want to be "white bread". Probably even more so than Jews (a mixed bag on that score). They like being black and don't want to change.

    This, of course, isn't that odd. Minorities tend to have strong affinity for their minority group/norms/behavior/culture ... or they wouldn't still be a minority, they'd have integrated already. Catholics still have their Catholic schools. The Golfocaust is long over, but Jews still have their Jewish clubs, and still do their ethnic networking. Schooling their kids and socializing (inc. churching) (leading toward marriage/reproduction) is, of course, where people most cling to their own.

    But the principle of minoritarianism is not actually "integration", but that the white gentile majority can't be allowed to have stuff of their own.


    Brown was a disaster. It didn't create minoritarianism--that push and propaganda--was coming anyway. But it could have made minoritarianism's rise much tougher. Instead it made it much easier. America deserved better.

    Replies: @anon, @Corvinus, @Jack D

    The problem is that Southrons couldn’t even abide by the simple decision made in the Plessy case–separate but equal. All they had to do was make sure educational funding and public accommodations were the same. But they got greedy, and as a consequence, received their comeuppance. Jim Crow was the disaster, not Brown. Get it straight.

  238. @Paperback Writer
    @Art Deco

    A 30% difference, applied to the major metro areas where blacks do dominate the public sector, is enormous.

    NYC transit workers are not hourly employees. They are members of the Transit Workers Union, whose leader, "Red" Mike Quill, brought the city to its knees in 1966.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Quill

    Replies: @Art Deco

    A 30% difference, applied to the major metro areas where blacks do dominate the public sector, is enormous.

    It means 18% of the black working population consists of public employees, rather than the 14% which prevails in the rest of the population. You people need to get a grip.

  239. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Art Deco

    OK, Art, with a little less respeck this time, cause I remember telling you this 3 years ago or so: Art, you tend to pull numbers off the internet, not always having the background to know whether they are completely meaningless or not. One thing, if you have been around a bit, is you think D.I.M.S., or Does It Make Sense?

    There is no way these occupations add up to 4.3% of the jobs held by Americans! People in education alone are more than that proportion. Your numbers DO NOT MAKE SENSE. Go to the site of the US Gov't BLS* and this page. Just in "Educational Services" alone there are 13.7 million people, of which 11.6% are black.** OK, we're at 1.6 million already!

    Look at post office employees. You've got 622,000 of them, with just under 1/4 being black. I can do that in my head - that's another 155,000. Look at the specific category of "Bus Service and Urban Transit" - I expected about 0.03% white, haha, but no, the proportion of black employees is right at 1/3 of 389,000. Also in my head, ~ 130,000. Here's the biggie that is by definition government, "Public administration" - you've got 17.5% of 7.5 million - another 1.3 million there Art.

    "Social Assistance"? There may be some charity employees in there, but I'd guess most is government supported. Oops, that's 19.9% of 3.14 million - 624,000, but, sure 1/2 of them could be working privately, as the childcare category is a significant chunk.

    Pretty soon, it adds to real money... for us taxpayers who don't ride the bus, don't like the public schools, HATE, HATE, HATE going into any government offices, and OK, I like the Post Office, and when the other mailman doesn't sub in and deliver the previous house's mail to the next one for the whole block, I like my regular Oriental mailman a lot.

    We're up to around 4 million black government employees at decent-paying jobs already without plenty of people that don't seem to fit under the categories I already mentioned.

    The "Public Administration" does not include those guys taking the trash and doing maintenance on the trees, sewers, and roads (as you included, but I didn't - for the roads, it's probably under "Services incidental to transportation".) I just got these guys to help me out with some work. Great guys! One white supervisor and 2 or 3 black guys operation small heavy machinery. The white guy did his share to help too.

    So my point stands, but you just wasted nearly an hour of my time. That's annoying, Art. Can you trust that people have some common sense and maybe not trust numbers just pulled off the internet without a lot of thinking about them?

    .


    * I know better than to trust them on inflation numbers (there are some creative green eyeshade whit boys over there), but I guess I'll give 'em credit for using a dBase to count occupations accurately.

    ** The BLS does not seem to want to break out taxpayer-supported vs. others, but most of them, especially the black employees, are going to be in public education.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    There is no way these occupations add up to 4.3% of the jobs held by Americans!

    Take it up with the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Art Deco

    OK, so this time, I spent that hour, and you didn't even read my comment, much less my link to the, get this, Bureau of Labor Statistics page. You take it up with them, Art, or else explain how your bogus numbers stand up to the table of occupations and number of employees on that page from the BLS.

    You were full of it this time, so you ought to consider not replying to people with numbers you quickly rip off the web without thinking about them.

  240. @AnotherDad
    @SafeNow


    Brown vs. Board was 9-0, with the opinion written by the chief justice. These factors greatly enhanced its moral and legal authority.
     
    Brown was a mess. May well turn out to be the worst decision--in its effects that the Supremes every dumped on us.

    If Cold War politics decreed an end to government segregation, they could have just done that. Decreed that while, of course, people were free to organize their private affairs however they liked, that the government could not racially discriminate in its programs.

    That would have been
    -- understandable to people
    -- a clear constitutional principle--although not what the 14th amendment actually said
    -- given southern states a clear direction--vouchers/educational choice--if white parents wanted to keep their kids out of heavily black schools/classrooms
    -- given us a decision--wrapped up in the flag and "history"--that would protect Americans from a lot of the minoritarian legal/political thuggery down the road.

    Instead we got a lot of (highly dubious) social-science driven mumbo-jumbo about segregation itself inducing inferiority, harming black self-esteem (LOL) ... and basically that it was whites' job to fix it. I.e. white people had to integrate with blacks for the benefit of blacks. "Integration" was some sort of law or the land. ("Civil rights" ... busing ... "affirmative action" ... "diversity"

    In other words: minoritarianism had its foot in the door. An opening to minoritarianism--that minoritarians have kept pushing on and on and on. (Busing ... "Civil Rights" ... "affirmative action" ... "disparate impact" ... "diversity is our greatest strength" ... homosexual marriage ... open borders ... "transgender" nonsense ... )

    The white majority must sacrifice its goals and desires, first its schools, neighborhoods ... then its jobs ... then its physical safety ... then its culture, its nation ... its civilization and existence as a people ... to accommodate precious oppressed minorities.


    Funny thing: blacks don't even want to integrate. They really don't want to be "white bread". Probably even more so than Jews (a mixed bag on that score). They like being black and don't want to change.

    This, of course, isn't that odd. Minorities tend to have strong affinity for their minority group/norms/behavior/culture ... or they wouldn't still be a minority, they'd have integrated already. Catholics still have their Catholic schools. The Golfocaust is long over, but Jews still have their Jewish clubs, and still do their ethnic networking. Schooling their kids and socializing (inc. churching) (leading toward marriage/reproduction) is, of course, where people most cling to their own.

    But the principle of minoritarianism is not actually "integration", but that the white gentile majority can't be allowed to have stuff of their own.


    Brown was a disaster. It didn't create minoritarianism--that push and propaganda--was coming anyway. But it could have made minoritarianism's rise much tougher. Instead it made it much easier. America deserved better.

    Replies: @anon, @Corvinus, @Jack D

    I think you are mixing up Brown with the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Brown did not concern private conduct at all, it concerned government funded public schools, perhaps one of the most pure example of government action possible. As Corvinus said, maybe if the South had followed Plessy in good faith and had in fact created separate BUT EQUAL public schools for blacks and whites, it would have been better. But the South overreached. They had separate schools that were NOT equal by any measure (not in terms of the talents of the students, which they are powerless to change, but in terms of the physical plant and quality of the teachers, the number and age of books, etc.). And so they got slapped back.

    If there had really been equal schools, maybe Plessy would have lasted longer, even though it was a bad faith decision to begin with (it was always clear that the South was never really going to provide equal facilities to blacks – Southern whites liked the “separate” part a lot more than the “equal” part). You may be right that blacks (based on their revealed preferences) didn’t really want integration more than whites but they sure as hell wanted the equal protection of law that they had been promised in the 14th Amendment. As a practical matter, the only way they were going to get “equal” facilities was if they were allowed to attend the facilities that had been built for whites.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Jack D

    Not so, Jack. According to the late, lamented Raymond Wolters, may he rest in peace, the last legitimate historian of race in America, in the run-up to Brown, Southern school districts gave segregated black schools equal, and in some cases, superior funding to that of White schools. That was fine with the overwhelming majority of blacks, but not with the naacp. It browbeat black parents into insisting on "integration."

    The naacp dishonestly insisted, prior to Brown, that black students would meet White standards of behavior and academics. The White segregationists were never fooled by that lie. As soon as schools were integrated, black kids started cursing openly and sexually molesting White girls, not to mention not coming close to White academic standards. When Whites complained, the naacp screamed, "Racism!" When school administrators disciplined black miscreants, the latter responded by committing vandalism and arson.

    White parents who loved their children, and who weren't broke, had no choice but to pull them out of the integrated hellholes, and build segregated schools for them out of their own pockets. The naacp just smiled, and bragged that their allies in the federal judiciary and the USSC, would bankrupt the devoted, Southern parents. For every dollar the White parents spent on their own children, the courts forced them to spend at least one dollar on black parents' kids, while black parents, who didn't care about their kids' education, got a free ride.

    That's been the model for the governmental war on Whites ever since. See Wolters' The Burden of Brown.

    The need to protect White females of all ages from molestation and rape by blacks was one of the pillars of Jim Crow.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Gamecock

    , @Mr. Rational
    @Jack D


    it was always clear that the South was never really going to provide equal facilities to blacks
     
    I have no personal experience of this, but I recall a tale of two high schools, one black, one White, in which they'd been built identically... and the White one was pristine while the black one was trashed.  It was all due to the conduct of the two incompatible races.

    You cannot provide "equal" facilities to groups which behave unequally.

    Replies: @Jack D

  241. @Jack D
    @Art Deco

    I understand what you are saying. Most people just want a quiet life. No one is obligated to become an "activist". Most people just accept their society as it is. Segregation was a fact of life in the South in the same way that hot humid summer weather was. The average person had the same amount of power to change one as the other.

    All that being said, who WAS responsible for Jim Crow? It's like postwar Germany - somehow none of the Germans that you met had ever been Nazis.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    The persons responsible for Jim Crow were (1) public officials working in (2) a matrix of public opinion. There was likely a spiral-of-silence preventing some white Southerners from objecting. Flannery O’Connor’s public remarks on the subject are to be found in Mystery and Manners. Her own take on ‘manners’ and how they regulate social life can be found. She understands ‘integration’ as a different ecosystem of manners. The features of Jim Crow – the signs on the water fountains and what not – were a physical manifestation of the manners of the era. O’Connor wasn’t a utopian at all and skewered political sectaries in “Everything that Rises Must Converge”, but she had no stomach for attempting to retain segregation beyond what people do voluntarily in their daily lives.

    Note, the problem with school segregation was that systems in effect were regulated by sentiments which incorporated a notion of ritual impurity. In Virginia, to take one example, segregation applied just as much in the western part of the state as it did in Richmond, even though there were hardly any blacks in the western part of the state. Black youngsters were transported all over the place to tiny all county schools. You had unique state professional schools which were categorically closed to aspirants from 25% of a state’s population. Had they been operating an honest system, they’d have made accommodations.

    However, the problems in re the schools or ‘public accommodations’ were of secondary interest. The two premier problems in the South were (1) the police and the courts were a mess and (2) elections administration was a mess. James Jackson Kilpatrick was a defender of segregation, but he was at peace with voting rights laws because the whole process of drawing up electoral registers in the South was so crooked.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Art Deco


    You had unique state professional schools which were categorically closed to aspirants from 25% of a state’s population
     
    IIRC, the legal solution to that was that if your state had no black med school or law school, the state would pay the difference between the cost and the in-state tuition for blacks to attend out of state schools. At least on paper. I'm sure that there were bureaucratic obstacles and in any case in those days there weren't that many blacks who were qualified in the 1st place.

    You're right that the schools (which BTW were inferior for whites too) were not their only problem, but they were a problem. The South never really accepted the premise of the 14th Amendment and fought rear guard actions on many fronts and for a long time Washington looked the other way. I can understand why they did this given black behavior but if they had reconciled themselves to reality and the law sooner it would have been better for everyone, whites included.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  242. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    I think you are mixing up Brown with the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Brown did not concern private conduct at all, it concerned government funded public schools, perhaps one of the most pure example of government action possible. As Corvinus said, maybe if the South had followed Plessy in good faith and had in fact created separate BUT EQUAL public schools for blacks and whites, it would have been better. But the South overreached. They had separate schools that were NOT equal by any measure (not in terms of the talents of the students, which they are powerless to change, but in terms of the physical plant and quality of the teachers, the number and age of books, etc.). And so they got slapped back.

    If there had really been equal schools, maybe Plessy would have lasted longer, even though it was a bad faith decision to begin with (it was always clear that the South was never really going to provide equal facilities to blacks - Southern whites liked the "separate" part a lot more than the "equal" part). You may be right that blacks (based on their revealed preferences) didn't really want integration more than whites but they sure as hell wanted the equal protection of law that they had been promised in the 14th Amendment. As a practical matter, the only way they were going to get "equal" facilities was if they were allowed to attend the facilities that had been built for whites.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @Mr. Rational

    Not so, Jack. According to the late, lamented Raymond Wolters, may he rest in peace, the last legitimate historian of race in America, in the run-up to Brown, Southern school districts gave segregated black schools equal, and in some cases, superior funding to that of White schools. That was fine with the overwhelming majority of blacks, but not with the naacp. It browbeat black parents into insisting on “integration.”

    The naacp dishonestly insisted, prior to Brown, that black students would meet White standards of behavior and academics. The White segregationists were never fooled by that lie. As soon as schools were integrated, black kids started cursing openly and sexually molesting White girls, not to mention not coming close to White academic standards. When Whites complained, the naacp screamed, “Racism!” When school administrators disciplined black miscreants, the latter responded by committing vandalism and arson.

    White parents who loved their children, and who weren’t broke, had no choice but to pull them out of the integrated hellholes, and build segregated schools for them out of their own pockets. The naacp just smiled, and bragged that their allies in the federal judiciary and the USSC, would bankrupt the devoted, Southern parents. For every dollar the White parents spent on their own children, the courts forced them to spend at least one dollar on black parents’ kids, while black parents, who didn’t care about their kids’ education, got a free ride.

    That’s been the model for the governmental war on Whites ever since. See Wolters’ The Burden of Brown.

    The need to protect White females of all ages from molestation and rape by blacks was one of the pillars of Jim Crow.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Nicholas Stix

    "Not so, Jack. According to the late, lamented Raymond Wolters, may he rest in peace, the last legitimate historian of race in America, in the run-up to Brown, Southern school districts gave segregated black schools equal, and in some cases, superior funding to that of White schools."

    Exact citations required.

    The naacp dishonestly insisted, prior to Brown, that black students would meet White standards of behavior and academics. The White segregationists were never fooled by that lie.

    "As soon as schools were integrated, black kids started cursing openly and sexually molesting White girls, not to mention not coming close to White academic standards."

    Exact citations required.

    "When Whites complained, the naacp screamed, “Racism!” When school administrators disciplined black miscreants, the latter responded by committing vandalism and arson."

    Exact citations required.

    , @Gamecock
    @Nicholas Stix


    As soon as schools were integrated, black kids started cursing openly and sexually molesting White girls, not to mention not coming close to White academic standards.
     
    A stupid lie.

    They were just kids. Bewildered by where they were. Trouble came, eventually. "As soon as schools were integrated" is ignorant and stupid.
  243. @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    I think you are mixing up Brown with the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Brown did not concern private conduct at all, it concerned government funded public schools, perhaps one of the most pure example of government action possible. As Corvinus said, maybe if the South had followed Plessy in good faith and had in fact created separate BUT EQUAL public schools for blacks and whites, it would have been better. But the South overreached. They had separate schools that were NOT equal by any measure (not in terms of the talents of the students, which they are powerless to change, but in terms of the physical plant and quality of the teachers, the number and age of books, etc.). And so they got slapped back.

    If there had really been equal schools, maybe Plessy would have lasted longer, even though it was a bad faith decision to begin with (it was always clear that the South was never really going to provide equal facilities to blacks - Southern whites liked the "separate" part a lot more than the "equal" part). You may be right that blacks (based on their revealed preferences) didn't really want integration more than whites but they sure as hell wanted the equal protection of law that they had been promised in the 14th Amendment. As a practical matter, the only way they were going to get "equal" facilities was if they were allowed to attend the facilities that had been built for whites.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix, @Mr. Rational

    it was always clear that the South was never really going to provide equal facilities to blacks

    I have no personal experience of this, but I recall a tale of two high schools, one black, one White, in which they’d been built identically… and the White one was pristine while the black one was trashed.  It was all due to the conduct of the two incompatible races.

    You cannot provide “equal” facilities to groups which behave unequally.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Mr. Rational

    Well the classic example are high rise housing projects such as Pruitt-Igoe and Cabrini Green, which blacks made into unlivable hellholes such that they had to be torn down long before their age indicated. All over the world (especially in Asia) millions and million of whites and Asians live in virtually identical buildings without any problem. No one pees in the elevator. Junkies do not shoot up in the stairwells. Muggers do not mug you in the hallways. In NYC, white people pay thousands of $ per month to rent apartments that are no better (sometime worse) than these projects were (at least when they were new).

    But the fact remains that (except maybe in a few isolated cases in the waning days of segregation when they were already under attack by the NAACP) the facilities provided to blacks in the South were inferior even before the blacks were able to trash them.

    Replies: @anon

  244. @Art Deco
    @Achmed E. Newman

    #837, much of the black middle class is in government,

    Blacks are more likely to be public sector workers. The difference in propensity is modest, however, about 30%. A great deal of that is accounted for by postal service employees and metro transit employees, who are hourly employees.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jack D, @Paperback Writer, @Alden

    A “ working class” hourly employee like a big city bus driver who makes 100K plus a year can afford a much more prosperous middle class life style than a 40K a year salaried cubicle coolie

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Alden

    Median annual wages for 'Bus Drivers, Transit and Intercity" amount to $46,000 per year. Those at the 90th percentile of the distribution are paid wages which sum to $72,000 a year.

  245. @Mr. Rational
    @Jack D


    it was always clear that the South was never really going to provide equal facilities to blacks
     
    I have no personal experience of this, but I recall a tale of two high schools, one black, one White, in which they'd been built identically... and the White one was pristine while the black one was trashed.  It was all due to the conduct of the two incompatible races.

    You cannot provide "equal" facilities to groups which behave unequally.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Well the classic example are high rise housing projects such as Pruitt-Igoe and Cabrini Green, which blacks made into unlivable hellholes such that they had to be torn down long before their age indicated. All over the world (especially in Asia) millions and million of whites and Asians live in virtually identical buildings without any problem. No one pees in the elevator. Junkies do not shoot up in the stairwells. Muggers do not mug you in the hallways. In NYC, white people pay thousands of $ per month to rent apartments that are no better (sometime worse) than these projects were (at least when they were new).

    But the fact remains that (except maybe in a few isolated cases in the waning days of segregation when they were already under attack by the NAACP) the facilities provided to blacks in the South were inferior even before the blacks were able to trash them.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Jack D


    But the fact remains that (except maybe in a few isolated cases in the waning days of segregation when they were already under attack by the NAACP) the facilities provided to blacks in the South were inferior even before the blacks were able to trash them.
     
    Whites pay more in taxes and value education more.
  246. @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    The persons responsible for Jim Crow were (1) public officials working in (2) a matrix of public opinion. There was likely a spiral-of-silence preventing some white Southerners from objecting. Flannery O'Connor's public remarks on the subject are to be found in Mystery and Manners. Her own take on 'manners' and how they regulate social life can be found. She understands 'integration' as a different ecosystem of manners. The features of Jim Crow - the signs on the water fountains and what not - were a physical manifestation of the manners of the era. O'Connor wasn't a utopian at all and skewered political sectaries in "Everything that Rises Must Converge", but she had no stomach for attempting to retain segregation beyond what people do voluntarily in their daily lives.

    Note, the problem with school segregation was that systems in effect were regulated by sentiments which incorporated a notion of ritual impurity. In Virginia, to take one example, segregation applied just as much in the western part of the state as it did in Richmond, even though there were hardly any blacks in the western part of the state. Black youngsters were transported all over the place to tiny all county schools. You had unique state professional schools which were categorically closed to aspirants from 25% of a state's population. Had they been operating an honest system, they'd have made accommodations.

    However, the problems in re the schools or 'public accommodations' were of secondary interest. The two premier problems in the South were (1) the police and the courts were a mess and (2) elections administration was a mess. James Jackson Kilpatrick was a defender of segregation, but he was at peace with voting rights laws because the whole process of drawing up electoral registers in the South was so crooked.

    Replies: @Jack D

    You had unique state professional schools which were categorically closed to aspirants from 25% of a state’s population

    IIRC, the legal solution to that was that if your state had no black med school or law school, the state would pay the difference between the cost and the in-state tuition for blacks to attend out of state schools. At least on paper. I’m sure that there were bureaucratic obstacles and in any case in those days there weren’t that many blacks who were qualified in the 1st place.

    You’re right that the schools (which BTW were inferior for whites too) were not their only problem, but they were a problem. The South never really accepted the premise of the 14th Amendment and fought rear guard actions on many fronts and for a long time Washington looked the other way. I can understand why they did this given black behavior but if they had reconciled themselves to reality and the law sooner it would have been better for everyone, whites included.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Jack D

    You have something against doctors trained in Birmingham?

  247. @eddy wobegon
    My prescription -- Upgrade to Second-Class Civil Rights -- Pay for What You Take.

    - One can either be fair to everyone or equalize group outcomes, but not both. To equalize group outcomes individuals must be discriminated against.

    - "Diversity", "inclusion" and "equity" are excuses to discriminate. At best, they are licenses to cheat, but not licenses to steal. Those who actually lost an opportunity should be compensated just as blacks who suffer from actual discrimination. Just as contested condemnation of real estate for the good of the community means if the state wins its case, it still must pay for the value of the property lost.

    - A 'Truth in Discrimination' disclosure would be required. The pledge "We will not discriminate on the basis of race, gender, etc." is merely an articulation of gross civil rights, not the net rights actually delivered. Institutions will need to affirmatively state the 'sacred ground' that will be honored, when they will not discriminate. No vague assertions about only discriminating when compelled to do so.

    - Put the discrimination at the end of the evaluation process. Don't headhunt for "diversity" at the beginning of the process. Add the D/I/E bonus points at the last step in the process. That way we can tell if one individual was actually denied the opportunity and should be compensated.

    - The approach allows discrimination against a group without taking it all out on a single individual. This is an anti-racism approach because losing a job because of one's race will tend to encourage vitriol against the race of the favored applicant. Why create a bigot when a $25,000 payoff can soften the blow of overt discrimination.

    Pay for what you take.

    Replies: @anon

    Pay for what you take.

    And a unicorn. Don’t forget the unicorn pony!

    Bakke says “hi”.

    • Replies: @eddy wobegon
    @anon

    That Bakke decision presumed there were inherent substantive differences based on demographic differences. However I don't believe that in the over 40 years since Bakke that academics have come up with a single articulation of an actual difference between blacks and whites, men or women, or gays and straights. Apparently "diversity" differences are simply too subtle and sublime for words.

  248. @anonymous
    I don't see how CRT is going to destroy the US. What scenarios are you thinking will play out? In what timeline?

    Ending affirmative action could cripple the country because the black middle class will be hit hard. Just think about how much worse blacks will be in America if they don't have a middle class to guide them.

    Replies: @anon, @anon, @Wade Hampton, @International Jew, @Art Deco, @Some Guy, @Desiderius, @Desiderius, @Achmed E. Newman, @Bill Jones, @Mr. Rational, @Jack D, @bomag, @Currahee, @CapitalistRoader

    There’s been a sizable (and growing) black middle class in the US for at least a century:

    Miles Dewey Davis III was born on May 26, 1926, to an affluent African-American family in Alton, Illinois, 15 miles north of St. Louis. His mother, Cleota Mae Henry of Arkansas, was a music teacher and violinist, and his father, Miles Dewey Davis Jr., also of Arkansas, was a dentist. They owned a 200-acre estate near Pine Bluff, Arkansas.
    – Wikipedia

  249. “What the Supreme Court Can Do to Save America”

    Close it down and lock the doors!

  250. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    @Mr. Rational

    Well the classic example are high rise housing projects such as Pruitt-Igoe and Cabrini Green, which blacks made into unlivable hellholes such that they had to be torn down long before their age indicated. All over the world (especially in Asia) millions and million of whites and Asians live in virtually identical buildings without any problem. No one pees in the elevator. Junkies do not shoot up in the stairwells. Muggers do not mug you in the hallways. In NYC, white people pay thousands of $ per month to rent apartments that are no better (sometime worse) than these projects were (at least when they were new).

    But the fact remains that (except maybe in a few isolated cases in the waning days of segregation when they were already under attack by the NAACP) the facilities provided to blacks in the South were inferior even before the blacks were able to trash them.

    Replies: @anon

    But the fact remains that (except maybe in a few isolated cases in the waning days of segregation when they were already under attack by the NAACP) the facilities provided to blacks in the South were inferior even before the blacks were able to trash them.

    Whites pay more in taxes and value education more.

  251. @Alden
    @Art Deco

    A “ working class” hourly employee like a big city bus driver who makes 100K plus a year can afford a much more prosperous middle class life style than a 40K a year salaried cubicle coolie

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Median annual wages for ‘Bus Drivers, Transit and Intercity” amount to $46,000 per year. Those at the 90th percentile of the distribution are paid wages which sum to $72,000 a year.

  252. @Jack D
    @Art Deco


    You had unique state professional schools which were categorically closed to aspirants from 25% of a state’s population
     
    IIRC, the legal solution to that was that if your state had no black med school or law school, the state would pay the difference between the cost and the in-state tuition for blacks to attend out of state schools. At least on paper. I'm sure that there were bureaucratic obstacles and in any case in those days there weren't that many blacks who were qualified in the 1st place.

    You're right that the schools (which BTW were inferior for whites too) were not their only problem, but they were a problem. The South never really accepted the premise of the 14th Amendment and fought rear guard actions on many fronts and for a long time Washington looked the other way. I can understand why they did this given black behavior but if they had reconciled themselves to reality and the law sooner it would have been better for everyone, whites included.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    You have something against doctors trained in Birmingham?

  253. @Art Deco
    @Achmed E. Newman

    There is no way these occupations add up to 4.3% of the jobs held by Americans!

    Take it up with the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    OK, so this time, I spent that hour, and you didn’t even read my comment, much less my link to the, get this, Bureau of Labor Statistics page. You take it up with them, Art, or else explain how your bogus numbers stand up to the table of occupations and number of employees on that page from the BLS.

    You were full of it this time, so you ought to consider not replying to people with numbers you quickly rip off the web without thinking about them.

  254. @Nicholas Stix
    @Jack D

    Not so, Jack. According to the late, lamented Raymond Wolters, may he rest in peace, the last legitimate historian of race in America, in the run-up to Brown, Southern school districts gave segregated black schools equal, and in some cases, superior funding to that of White schools. That was fine with the overwhelming majority of blacks, but not with the naacp. It browbeat black parents into insisting on "integration."

    The naacp dishonestly insisted, prior to Brown, that black students would meet White standards of behavior and academics. The White segregationists were never fooled by that lie. As soon as schools were integrated, black kids started cursing openly and sexually molesting White girls, not to mention not coming close to White academic standards. When Whites complained, the naacp screamed, "Racism!" When school administrators disciplined black miscreants, the latter responded by committing vandalism and arson.

    White parents who loved their children, and who weren't broke, had no choice but to pull them out of the integrated hellholes, and build segregated schools for them out of their own pockets. The naacp just smiled, and bragged that their allies in the federal judiciary and the USSC, would bankrupt the devoted, Southern parents. For every dollar the White parents spent on their own children, the courts forced them to spend at least one dollar on black parents' kids, while black parents, who didn't care about their kids' education, got a free ride.

    That's been the model for the governmental war on Whites ever since. See Wolters' The Burden of Brown.

    The need to protect White females of all ages from molestation and rape by blacks was one of the pillars of Jim Crow.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Gamecock

    “Not so, Jack. According to the late, lamented Raymond Wolters, may he rest in peace, the last legitimate historian of race in America, in the run-up to Brown, Southern school districts gave segregated black schools equal, and in some cases, superior funding to that of White schools.”

    Exact citations required.

    The naacp dishonestly insisted, prior to Brown, that black students would meet White standards of behavior and academics. The White segregationists were never fooled by that lie.

    “As soon as schools were integrated, black kids started cursing openly and sexually molesting White girls, not to mention not coming close to White academic standards.”

    Exact citations required.

    “When Whites complained, the naacp screamed, “Racism!” When school administrators disciplined black miscreants, the latter responded by committing vandalism and arson.”

    Exact citations required.

  255. @anon
    @eddy wobegon

    Pay for what you take.

    And a unicorn. Don't forget the unicorn pony!

    Bakke says "hi".

    Replies: @eddy wobegon

    That Bakke decision presumed there were inherent substantive differences based on demographic differences. However I don’t believe that in the over 40 years since Bakke that academics have come up with a single articulation of an actual difference between blacks and whites, men or women, or gays and straights. Apparently “diversity” differences are simply too subtle and sublime for words.

  256. @Desiderius
    https://twitter.com/Peter_Nimitz/status/1417708592480735232?s=20

    Replies: @Goddard, @SunBakedSuburb, @Corvinus

    • Replies: @anon
    @Corvinus

    Reichstag fire? What sort of ignoramus would compare those two events with a straight face?

    lol @ the Bezos blog.
    lol twice @ paid stooges like Coronavinus.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  257. @Corvinus
    @Desiderius

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/15/american-democracy-survived-its-reichstag-fire-jan-6-threat-has-not-subsided

    Replies: @anon

    Reichstag fire? What sort of ignoramus would compare those two events with a straight face?

    lol @ the Bezos blog.
    lol twice @ paid stooges like Coronavinus.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @anon

    What's with it with anonys on this fine opinion webzine and their infatuation with calling anyone who dares to challenge their narrative as a "paid stooge" or some variation of that term?

  258. @Nicholas Stix
    @Jack D

    Not so, Jack. According to the late, lamented Raymond Wolters, may he rest in peace, the last legitimate historian of race in America, in the run-up to Brown, Southern school districts gave segregated black schools equal, and in some cases, superior funding to that of White schools. That was fine with the overwhelming majority of blacks, but not with the naacp. It browbeat black parents into insisting on "integration."

    The naacp dishonestly insisted, prior to Brown, that black students would meet White standards of behavior and academics. The White segregationists were never fooled by that lie. As soon as schools were integrated, black kids started cursing openly and sexually molesting White girls, not to mention not coming close to White academic standards. When Whites complained, the naacp screamed, "Racism!" When school administrators disciplined black miscreants, the latter responded by committing vandalism and arson.

    White parents who loved their children, and who weren't broke, had no choice but to pull them out of the integrated hellholes, and build segregated schools for them out of their own pockets. The naacp just smiled, and bragged that their allies in the federal judiciary and the USSC, would bankrupt the devoted, Southern parents. For every dollar the White parents spent on their own children, the courts forced them to spend at least one dollar on black parents' kids, while black parents, who didn't care about their kids' education, got a free ride.

    That's been the model for the governmental war on Whites ever since. See Wolters' The Burden of Brown.

    The need to protect White females of all ages from molestation and rape by blacks was one of the pillars of Jim Crow.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Gamecock

    As soon as schools were integrated, black kids started cursing openly and sexually molesting White girls, not to mention not coming close to White academic standards.

    A stupid lie.

    They were just kids. Bewildered by where they were. Trouble came, eventually. “As soon as schools were integrated” is ignorant and stupid.

  259. @anon
    @Corvinus

    Reichstag fire? What sort of ignoramus would compare those two events with a straight face?

    lol @ the Bezos blog.
    lol twice @ paid stooges like Coronavinus.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    What’s with it with anonys on this fine opinion webzine and their infatuation with calling anyone who dares to challenge their narrative as a “paid stooge” or some variation of that term?

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